Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas and Feliz Natal thread

[nancy jean baptiste]

Feliz Natal to you all and a very fine 2020! ❤

Nancy Jean

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Feliz Natal!

MaryAnn



On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 2:11 PM Rosemarie Capodicci 
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Merry Chistmas to all and a very Happy and fact-filled 2020 New Year!

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Merry Christmas and Feliz Natal to all!

Since we now have more Australians and others from that side of the world, I'm 
starting this thread a day earlier (because it's already Christmas Eve there).

Please post your Christmas greetings to this thread ONLY. Just hit reply to 
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Do NOT start your own thread. Reply ONLY to this one. Some people enjoy sending 
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You may post your greetings until 11:59 YOUR TIME on December 25th. If it's 12 
midnight on Dec. 26th, sorry you are too late.

Hope everyone has a Prospero Ano Novo and finds many ancestors in 2020!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

[nancy jean baptiste]

My great grandmother, Rosa Louisa from Pico married to Jose de Sousa Pereira 
had 12 children from 1867 to 1893. 1 died young, 2 stillborn and the rest lived 
to maturity.

Nancy Jean

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Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 3:43:26 PM
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My Paternal Grandfather Francisco Vitorino Vasconcelos had 17 kids 1870-1896
My Grandmother died in 1948 at age 95, one tough lady

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:34 PM Cheri Mello 
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Can you all let me know the largest Azorean family you have in your database? I 
prefer the late 1800s onwards, and it must be from ONE wife. All kids, whether 
or not they lived to adulthood.

Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born from 
1890-1913.

Thanks, Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Miguel people in Santo Amaro Sao Jorge

[nancy jean baptiste]

So interesting! I have a line from there!

Nancy Jean

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Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 12:36 PM
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Miguel people in Santo Amaro Sao Jorge

I have been proofreading the Santo Amaro, Sao Jorge Deaths for 1800--1911 and 
have found many Sao Miguel people in the there. Here are a few:
3 Feb 1800 Mariana, hours old daugh of Antonio da Costa Venancio of S. Miguel & 
Ana Emilia de Bettencourt
10 Jul 1881 Francisco, 4 mos son of Jose Boaventura Pimentel & Beneranda de 
Jesus Pinheiro both of S. Miguel
30 Aug 1881 Margarida de Jesus, 77 years old wife of Joao Machado Pereira 
Barreios, Parents Antonio Francisco & aria de Jesus native of Sao Miguel
16 Mar 1882 Maria, 9 mos. dau of Victorino de Medeiros Caio Serrado & Libania 
de Jesus of S. Miguel

17 Apr 1883 Margarida, dau of Jose Ventura & Vennanda de Jesus of S. Miguel
There are more and may be more in earlier records. I don't really know why 
these Sao Miguel people were in Santo Amaro, Sao Jorge but you might want to 
check the records!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Record help. Bandeiras, Pico

[nancy jean baptiste]

Thank you Cheri! I wondered about thatthese must not be my peopleI 
appreciate the insight!

Nancy Jean

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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 11:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Record help. Bandeiras, Pico

I'm reading the mom and grandma as Luzia Maria Maia and Anna Maria Maia. I 
first thought he wrote Maria twice (after Luzia's name), but he did it again 
after Anna Maria's name. I think he put Maia after it.
Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 9:10 AM Hughes Roselyn 
mailto:roselynhug...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Nancy Jean,

Here's the link:  
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-1874-1895/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-1874-1895_item1/P40.html

This is what I can see:

No 1 married to Antonio Joaquim de Andrade in the parochial of this village of 
Bandeiras, council of Madalena on the 11 of November of 1899 ...

No 2  the marriage was disolved due to the death of the husband on the 20 of 
August in 1950 ...

No 3  she died in this same village of Bandeiras council of Madalena on the 21 
of March in 1957 ...

She was baptised on  9 September 1882
She was born on 22 August 1882
Daughter natural of Lusia Maria and grand daughter of Anna Maria living in this 
same village.
Godfather (Jose?) Rodrigues, single
Godmother Isabel Jacinto, widow

Hard to read, I did not see any reference to a Mariana but I hope this helps.  
Other need to look at it also.

Roselyn

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 8:33 AM nancy jean baptiste 
mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Greetings all,

The record is very faded and hard to read. The side notes aren't clear for me 
to understand.

Not sure how to post the link, however, the record is Baptisms, Bandeiras, Pico 
1874-1895, page 40 bottom right over to page 41.

Maria, natural child of Luiza Maria and grandchild of Anna Maria. They should 
be Mariana, natural of Luisa Mariana, natural of Anna Maria.

Any help is appreciated,
Nancy Jean

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Record help. Bandeiras, Pico

[nancy jean baptiste]

Thanks Cheri.

Roselyn, thank you so much. You confirmed that this isn't who I thought it was 
because of the birth date. The odds of 2 Anna Maria's having 2 daughter's named 
Luiza Mariana who had 2 daughter's named Mariana Amelia, all with unknown 
father's in a small village like Bandeiras seems improbableI'm thinking 
maybe this record is a sister to the Mariana Amelia da Silva that I'm searching 
for. I appreciate your help!

Nancy Jean

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Roselyn 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:51 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Record help. Bandeiras, Pico

Hi Nancy Jean,

Here's the link:  
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-1874-1895/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-1874-1895_item1/P40.html

This is what I can see:

No 1 married to Antonio Joaquim de Andrade in the parochial of this village of 
Bandeiras, council of Madalena on the 11 of November of 1899 ...

No 2  the marriage was disolved due to the death of the husband on the 20 of 
August in 1950 ...

No 3  she died in this same village of Bandeiras council of Madalena on the 21 
of March in 1957 ...

She was baptised on  9 September 1882
She was born on 22 August 1882
Daughter natural of Lusia Maria and grand daughter of Anna Maria living in this 
same village.
Godfather (Jose?) Rodrigues, single
Godmother Isabel Jacinto, widow

Hard to read, I did not see any reference to a Mariana but I hope this helps.  
Other need to look at it also.

Roselyn

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 8:33 AM nancy jean baptiste 
mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Greetings all,

The record is very faded and hard to read. The side notes aren't clear for me 
to understand.

Not sure how to post the link, however, the record is Baptisms, Bandeiras, Pico 
1874-1895, page 40 bottom right over to page 41.

Maria, natural child of Luiza Maria and grandchild of Anna Maria. They should 
be Mariana, natural of Luisa Mariana, natural of Anna Maria.

Any help is appreciated,
Nancy Jean

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Record help. Bandeiras, Pico

[nancy jean baptiste]

Greetings all,

The record is very faded and hard to read. The side notes aren't clear for me 
to understand.

Not sure how to post the link, however, the record is Baptisms, Bandeiras, Pico 
1874-1895, page 40 bottom right over to page 41.

Maria, natural child of Luiza Maria and grandchild of Anna Maria. They should 
be Mariana, natural of Luisa Mariana, natural of Anna Maria.

Any help is appreciated,
Nancy Jean

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy Easter/ Feliz Pascoa thread

[nancy jean baptiste]

Feliz Pascoa !

Nancy Jean

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Happy Easter.





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Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 10:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy Easter/ Feliz Pascoa thread



Happy Easter to all and have a great day!

??

Rosemarie

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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily





On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 7:55 AM Cheri Mello 
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Feliz Pascoa! Happy Easter!



For those wishing to send Easter greetings to the list, please reply to THIS 
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Enjoy,

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names (Santa Maria)

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Hi all,

In some ways the same names is helpful to link to families. The Sao Jorge index 
makes it so easy to skim for "Silveira de Lemos" or variation thereof and  "de 
Jesus" women or in my mom's line "Bernarda"..but, in other cases it's 
horribly confusingie: my great grand father from Candelaria took the 
surname Cardoso while his brother took Silva...why? Who know's?

Enjoy the puzzle!
Nancy Jean

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Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 10:00 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names (Santa Maria)

Sam, what I have been finding a lot of is sons taking on their father's first 
name as their last name. For example Nicolau do Rego's son will be João do Rego 
Nicolau.

On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 21:58, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Thanks Rick.  I get it now.  All these same names are driving me nutso.  Add to 
that the marrying of cousins and it sure does get crazy!



Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



From: Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 5:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names (Santa Maria)



Not exactly.  If the Bride was Maria and the MIL was Francisca Rosa. The bride 
might take the name Maria Rosa or Maria Francisca. I cannot recall if I have 
seen the bride change her baptismal name.

Rick



From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 6:32 PM
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Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names (Santa Maria)



Rick; Do you mean that a bride of one name say, Ana Francisca would marry and 
change her name to her mother-in-laws say Jacintha Maria?  Talk about making 
our job of tracing our ancestors harder!  Not to mention, talk about a “kiss 
up”! LOL!



Mary, Yes, it sure does make it harder to know what is what.  I’m trying to 
fill in the different branches of my tree and didn’t really count on tracking 
down all the marriages and obits, etc.  Was hoping to do it just through 
births/baptisms.  Oh well, I never really expected to finish my tree!



Thanks guys,



Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



From: Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 12:04 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names (Santa Maria)



Sam, Yes I have noticed that. I kind of think the bride sometimes took her 
mother in law’s name as a means to be accepted into the family better.



Rick

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From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names (Santa Maria)



Hello all;  Has anyone else noticed how very, very often the names of the bride 
and or of the mother’s in law are exactly the same?  i.e. Bernardina Jacintha, 
Anna Filomena, etc.  Record after record, though not all of them of course, 
have the bride and her mother with exactly the same name and sometimes all 
three women in the record have the same name.  It just makes me worry that the 
priest has been “tippling” the vino…I know certain names were very common 
but; it seems to be more than that….



Just wondering…



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Switching back and forth of surnames

[nancy jean baptiste]

Wow Sam! Big project! Tish Meals and her husband Deni have extracted a large 
amount of the records on Santa Maria. You're probably doing different areas?

Best regards,
Nancy Jean

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 9:14 PM
To: genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Switching back and forth of surnames


Hi everyone;  Just thought I’d mention, especially for those starting out, that 
I have been doing extractions on Santa Maria Island and I now realize how often 
surnames of individuals were switched back and forth on records.  For example 
the surnames:  Monteiro and Tavares.  I have seen the same man as Antonio 
Tavares Monteiro and as Antonio Monteiro Tavares on several different records 
of his children’s birth.  I know it is the same man because his wife, paternal 
grandparents and maternal grandparents all match.  How easy it is to overlook a 
match because of this.  I am finding that doing extractions of the entire time 
period is very helpful in finding extended families.  This project will take me 
a long time and I’ll probably keep asking everyone for help reading some of the 
information, especially side notes which sometimes can help you add to the 
line.  Once I am done, I hope to be able to help others looking in the same 
freguesia and time periods.



Happy Ancestor Hunting,



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference?

[nancy jean baptiste]

Sam,

One thing I noticed while indexing the Sao Jorge obits is that so many women 
who had children out of marriage were daughters of women who also had children 
out of wedlock

Nancy Jean

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
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Interesting how they recorded this stuff.  Cheri, or anyone, do you know if 
there was a stigma attached to the child or to the parents for that matter?  I 
found it somewhat surprising that in the record I found it stated that the 
husband had been “away for over 300 days”   Certainly leaves no doubt that the 
baby wasn’t his.  So many scenarios in my mind for when/if the husband returns. 
 What happens to the baby?  Mom keeps it, it goes in the roda, dad keeps it.  I 
did find one record where the mom wasn’t listed, only the dad.



Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



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The "adulterer" term isn't used as in today's definition. Basically, one (or 
both) parties were married. I have one record in my family where Francisco was 
single, Maria was married to So-and-So. Francisco and Maria had a baby. 
Francisco was listed as the adulterer. By today's definition, Maria was the 
adultress and Francisco having relations with a married woman isn't a nice 
thing, but I can't think of a "proper" word for that in the English language. I 
know lots of name-calling terms for that, but I don't think there's a proper 
word for a single man who has a relationship with a married woman.

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada





On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:09 AM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca 
mailto:jessdebmendo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

While they both translate to hidden, as in refuse to name; oculto definition 
includes not known.   Could that be the difference?







On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 9:31 AM Leonor Bertoni 
mailto:leonor.bert...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Sam,

I have wondered about all these terms as well. I have found that when the 
priest says "adulterina" he usually also mentions a father. Someone once told 
me that it meant that the baby was conceived before marriage or the couple were 
not married at all.



On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 12:12, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Happy Friday morning everyone;



As I’ve been extracting baptisms/births, I have noticed that the same priest 
during the same time period will sometimes use Avo incognito and other times 
use Avo occult and on occasion simply state that it is “natural  de” and the 
mother’s name with no mention at all of the father.  On only one occasion, so 
far, has it been stated that the mother is “adulterina” (may not have spelled 
that correctly)



Does anyone know why it is recorded in these various ways.  I understand that 
if you are single you are not an “adulterine” but; other than that, what are 
the differences?



Thanks for educating me,.



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference?

[nancy jean baptiste]

Sam,

I noticed the same thing in the Sao Jorge recordsthere were "alduterina's", 
the "pai nao sabido", pai occulto, and pai incognito.they all felt 
different but when I asked I was told they were all the samebut, I don't 
believe that anymore

Nancy Jean

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 12:27 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
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Leonor;  In this case, no father was mentioned but; the husband’s name was 
listed as well as the fact that he had been away for over 300 days so, I think 
it truly means, “adulterer”, if I’m spelling that correctly.



Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



From: Leonor Bertoni
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 10:31 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference?



Hi Sam,

I have wondered about all these terms as well. I have found that when the 
priest says "adulterina" he usually also mentions a father. Someone once told 
me that it meant that the baby was conceived before marriage or the couple were 
not married at all.



On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 12:12, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Happy Friday morning everyone;



As I’ve been extracting baptisms/births, I have noticed that the same priest 
during the same time period will sometimes use Avo incognito and other times 
use Avo occult and on occasion simply state that it is “natural  de” and the 
mother’s name with no mention at all of the father.  On only one occasion, so 
far, has it been stated that the mother is “adulterina” (may not have spelled 
that correctly)



Does anyone know why it is recorded in these various ways.  I understand that 
if you are single you are not an “adulterine” but; other than that, what are 
the differences?



Thanks for educating me,.



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Change

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Indeed, one discovery leads to more paths to explore!

Nancy

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Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 10:38 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Change

It was Joao Brum Santos Macedo, which is the name shown as father on my 
grandfather's birth record.  The change was to Joao Brum.  The Santos was not 
used by his ancestors but was for at least 2 of his children.   Now I'm 
wondering if that note is on all his children's records.  Always something more 
to do!

On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 7:33:29 AM UTC-8, nancy jean baptiste wrote:
Judy,

Just curious what his name was and what they changed it to?

Thanks,
Nancy Jean

From: 'joao ventura' via Azores Genealogy 
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Change

This is the first time I have seen this. It is possible that the priest made a 
mistake when writing that record and changed the father's name. Later he needed 
to mend this and went to Court.

An example: my paternal grandmother is Emília Cândida Gaspar. On my father's 
birth record his mother is listed as Maria da Conceição, who actually is his 
paternal grandmother. If this would be an issue, we would need to mend his 
birth record.

João

On Saturday, December 29, 2018, 1:58:52 AM GMT-1, Judy Thompson 
 wrote:


On my grandfather's birth record there is a margin note that states that his 
father's name was changed  "according to the sentence of the Court of Lajes, 
Pico Island, on 4 December 1943."
Since his father died in 1921, any clue as to why they would have changed his 
name 22 years later?

Judy T.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Where is Touril?

[nancy jean baptiste]

Judy, Antonio Faria is from Almagreira, Pico and he might know where your area 
is.

Nancy jean

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Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 2:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Where is Touril?

Depending on the translation, maybe it's the street. Someone more familiar with 
Lajes may know.

On Dec 28, 2018 7:02 PM, "Judy Thompson" 
mailto:judyte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I had Joao Ventura translate my grandfather's birth record for Lajes, Pico.  It 
said they resided in Touril.  Does anyone know if that is a neighborhood or 
what?  I thought the neighborhood was Almagreida.

Judy Thompson



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Change

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Judy,

Just curious what his name was and what they changed it to?

Thanks,
Nancy Jean

From: 'joao ventura' via Azores Genealogy 
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To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Change

This is the first time I have seen this. It is possible that the priest made a 
mistake when writing that record and changed the father's name. Later he needed 
to mend this and went to Court.

An example: my paternal grandmother is Emília Cândida Gaspar. On my father's 
birth record his mother is listed as Maria da Conceição, who actually is his 
paternal grandmother. If this would be an issue, we would need to mend his 
birth record.

João

On Saturday, December 29, 2018, 1:58:52 AM GMT-1, Judy Thompson 
 wrote:


On my grandfather's birth record there is a margin note that states that his 
father's name was changed  "according to the sentence of the Court of Lajes, 
Pico Island, on 4 December 1943."
Since his father died in 1921, any clue as to why they would have changed his 
name 22 years later?

Judy T.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas / Feliz Natal / Boas Festas thread (Send greetings here)

[nancy jean baptiste]

To all of you, a very Merry Christmas and a fine 2019 filled with discoveries!

Nancy Jean Baptista

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Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas / Feliz Natal / Boas Festas 
thread (Send greetings here)

A very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.
Bernadette Loebs  bloebs54@gmailcom

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 1:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas / Feliz Natal / Boas Festas 
thread (Send greetings here)

I want to add my wishes for you all for a very Merry Christmas and a Happy and 
Healthy New Year!

Kathy

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On 12/24/18, 10:22 AM, "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy" 
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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.

Celeste Perry

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On Sun, 12/23/18, Cheri Mello  wrote:

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas / Feliz Natal / Boas Festas 
thread (Send greetings here)
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 10:00 PM

 Merry Christmas! Feliz Natal! Boas
 Festas!
 If you would like to participant in wishing the
 list Merry Christmas, please respond to this thread by
 hitting Reply or responding to this thread.
 You may send your greetings through Dec. 25th, at
 11:59 pm in your time zone. That's 48 hours (or a little
 more due to the various time zones) to send your
 greetings.E um próspero ano novo!
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca,
 Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Information on Juan Oschar

[nancy jean baptiste]

Amazing Margaret!


Nancy


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Vicente 
Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2018 8:43:52 AM
To: azores
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Information on Juan Oschar

Sonya,

A quick check of he passports turns up a Jose Oscar de Bettencourt leaving for 
England in 1873, he was 30 years old.  So there's hope you may find what you're 
looking for in the City of Horta, island of Faial.

Check out 10th line from the bottom, # 20.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1867-1876/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1867-1876_item1/P113.html



On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 11:49 PM Sonya Thomas 
mailto:mrsson...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I am looking for information on Juan Oschar who we believe is from the Azores 
Islands.

According to his naturalisation papers (attached) he was born in January in 
1849 in Ferali(?) in the Western Islands of Portugal. He arrived in Australia 
about 1873 and settled in the York Penninsula, South Australia. He married 
Annie Marie Ah Wan in Sevenhill, South Australia in 1875.

We have been unable to find any reference to his parents names, and have found 
very little on the surname Oschar. We have be unable to find any record of his 
arrival into Australia.

Any assistance or advice would be appreciated.

Many Thanks,
Sonya.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Moreira from Sao Miguel island, late 1800s

[nancy jean baptiste]

What is your mother's name at FTDNA...I have Moreira surname from Santa maria.


Nancy Jean


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Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 10:40:08 AM
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Moreira from Sao Miguel island, late 1800s

Be sure to add your mother to the Azores DNA Project.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Cheri Mello 
mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Repost for storytellerhi  at gmail.com

I am Sherry my Great grandfather came from Sao Miguel in the late 1800's. He 
changed his name to John Morin but he was Joao Moreira. My mothers DNA, the 
grandaughter, is already in FTDNA, My Heritage, 23 and me and Ancestry. His 
wife was Josephine Levitre. They lived mostly in Tiverton and Fall River.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Phone for a month in the Azores

[nancy jean baptiste]

Very easy.


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Cheri 
Mello 
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 12:23:11 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Phone for a month in the Azores

Is it easy to find WiFi in the Azores?

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:19 AM, Scott Edward Anderson 
mailto:greenskep...@gmail.com>> wrote:
WhatsApp also works well when you are connected to WiFi and calls are free...

SEA

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 5, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Cheri Mello 
mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks for all the information everyone!

I'm also somewhat in charge of an almost 19 year old. Very sweet girl. She 
wants to be able to "check in" with her family in California while she is 
there. I know that text is really the SMS. Will they be able to text each 
other? Are there additional charges for either her or her family in California? 
I know these kids have no idea what a calling card is! LOL

I'm assuming it'll just stop working if you go over the 500 mins & 3 GB?

SIM works for iPhones and Androids and Samsungs, etc? (I haven't had a new cell 
phone in 4 or 5 years...mine works still and I don't replace it until I have 
problems)!
Thanks again, Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 11:08 PM, Linda J Magellan 
mailto:blondbub...@me.com>> wrote:
I am just now returning from a month long trip to Lisboa and Santa Maria. I 
purchased a SIM card when I landed in Lisboa, 5 May, and it has worked fine the 
whole time. I was able to make calls within Portugal, and I used the internet 
daily. I paid 10€ for it. It included 500 min/SMS and 3GB internet.



Sent from my iPad.

On Jun 5, 2018, at 3:35 AM, Margaret Vicente 
mailto:margaretvice...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Cheri,

It was cheaper for me to buy a new cell phone locally.  Here's some information.

http://tourazores.com/2011/06/calling-home-from-the-azores/


On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 11:13 PM, Cheri Mello 
mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Does anyone on this list know how much it costs to have a phone for a month in 
the Azores? Someone told me it can be done. I think I can put my Sim card in 
the phone and it will work. The price in euros is fine.

Thanks, Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Working around Porto Formoso Records need your thoughts

[nancy jean baptiste]

In one of our early maternal deaths, the mother died and the baby died 10 
months later.

Nancy


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thoughts


I did not check the obits but the baptismal records were available from 1840 to 
the time of her death which I checked and found no children born but now 
thinking about it I should look past her death date in case a baby was born and 
later died. Thanks.

Rick



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Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 10:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Working around Porto Formoso Records need your 
thoughts



Hi Rick,



Just curious if there is an obit around the time of Luzia's obit for her baby? 
Possible some info on it if there is one. 33 yr old death for a female could be 
childbirth related. It was in my family.



Regards,

Nancy Jean







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thoughts



Hi,  I am trying to close up a confusing remarriage in Santissimo Salvador 
where Francisco de Pimentel widower of Luzia do Espirito Santo marries Antonia 
de Jesus widow of Francisco de Pimentel. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860_item1/P66.html
  Left side.



I have found the Obito of Luzia do Espirito Santo here in Porto Formoso:  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858_item1/P12.html
  Left side bottom entry. Not much information except she was 33 years old more 
or less.



The marriage records for the years 1821 to 1843 as are the Baptismal records 
for 1817 to 1840 are missing so I cannot find the marriage to Francisco de 
Pimentel or look for any children prior to 1840.



I did look at the Baptismal records from 1808 to 1813 and found only one Luiza 
baptized: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1800-1816/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1800-1816_item1/P135.html
  upper right entry.  Two things:  the spelling of the name Luzia  (used on 
Obito) compared to Luiza (use on baptismal and the remarriage)  are two 
different names. If the marriage record were found it would clear up that 
question  but I can only assume that: this is the wrong baptism or the name was 
changed at marriage. Perhaps the priest writing the Obito was hard of hearing.



The age at death of 33 years old would mean she was born around 17 Nov 1811 the 
baptism record I found was born on 14 Feb 1813.  I can accept the difference of 
age as reasonable being off by 14 months.



I am leaning that the baptism record I found is the right one any opinions on 
this.



Rick

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Working around Porto Formoso Records need your thoughts

[nancy jean baptiste]

Hi Rick,


Just curious if there is an obit around the time of Luzia's obit for her baby? 
Possible some info on it if there is one. 33 yr old death for a female could be 
childbirth related. It was in my family.


Regards,

Nancy Jean




From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard 
Francis Pimentel 
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 8:53:22 AM
To: Azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Working around Porto Formoso Records need your 
thoughts


Hi,  I am trying to close up a confusing remarriage in Santissimo Salvador 
where Francisco de Pimentel widower of Luzia do Espirito Santo marries Antonia 
de Jesus widow of Francisco de Pimentel. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860_item1/P66.html
  Left side.



I have found the Obito of Luzia do Espirito Santo here in Porto Formoso:  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858_item1/P12.html
  Left side bottom entry. Not much information except she was 33 years old more 
or less.



The marriage records for the years 1821 to 1843 as are the Baptismal records 
for 1817 to 1840 are missing so I cannot find the marriage to Francisco de 
Pimentel or look for any children prior to 1840.



I did look at the Baptismal records from 1808 to 1813 and found only one Luiza 
baptized: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1800-1816/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1800-1816_item1/P135.html
  upper right entry.  Two things:  the spelling of the name Luzia  (used on 
Obito) compared to Luiza (use on baptismal and the remarriage)  are two 
different names. If the marriage record were found it would clear up that 
question  but I can only assume that: this is the wrong baptism or the name was 
changed at marriage. Perhaps the priest writing the Obito was hard of hearing.



The age at death of 33 years old would mean she was born around 17 Nov 1811 the 
baptism record I found was born on 14 Feb 1813.  I can accept the difference of 
age as reasonable being off by 14 months.



I am leaning that the baptism record I found is the right one any opinions on 
this.



Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH



Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Golden State Killer Caught with DNA

[nancy jean baptiste]

Totally agree.so glad they removed this evil creature from societyif my 
DNA helped capture a being as immoral as this one, I'd be thrilled to 
contribute!


Nancy Jean


From: 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 10:38:54 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Golden State Killer Caught with DNA

I will second that Kathy and Rick! We called him the East Area Rapist and he 
struck in my neighborhood! He is the reason that we installed a burglar alarm 
and why my husband put a baseball bat under our bed that is still there today 
41 years later! My youngest daughter was born 41 years ago today and that was 
the week he announced that he would kill his next victim! We slept with all of 
our children in our bedroom. I knew one victim personally and knew who three 
others were! I say any means they could use to capture this man bravo! He 
honestly took a lot of innocence with him including the carefree days of our 
children playing outside. Sorry for the off topic rant but anyone who commits 
crimes like these deserves to be caught by DNA or any other means.

Susan Vargas Murphy

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On Apr 27, 2018, at 8:03 AM, Kathy Andrade Cardoza 
> wrote:


I agree, Rick. I don’t see this as any invasion of privacy. It identified and 
helped to capture a very bad person who committed unspeakable crimes against 
innocents. It’s just another tool in the arsenal of law enforcement.



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Reply-To: >
Date: Friday, April 27, 2018 at 7:43 AM
To: >
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Golden State Killer Caught with DNA



I read this article this morning and found it most interesting on the capture 
of the Golden State Killer. This was a Cold Case file that was solved with DNA.



The article raises many concerns about privacy and how law enforcement used GED 
Match to solve this case.  For years law enforcement has used finger prints to 
identify persons and we have accepted this as no invasion of our privacy. If 
you consider that DNA is just another finger print then I have no problem with 
it being used by law enforcement.



I am happy they caught this person and he will be brought to justice.



The article also tells how DNA was used to identify a Jane Doe that was 
murdered in 1981.



You can read the article here. 
http://thednageek.com/genealogy-and-the-golden-state-killer/







Rick

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Pascoa/Happy Easter thread

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Happy Easter to all!


Nancy Jean


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Santos 
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Pascoa/Happy Easter thread

Happy Easter!

MaryAnn

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 12:45 AM, Sandra Valine Dauer 
> wrote:
A Blessed Easter to you and your families.
Sandra Valine Dauer

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:35 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
Happy Easter to all! May you have a blessed day and if you're traveling a safe 
trip!

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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Feliz Pascoa! Happy Easter!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record - top right - Joam Viera Paulo and Maria Silveira 1731 Santo Amaro, Pico

[nancy jean baptiste]

That would be really great


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci 
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 1:43:17 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record - top right - Joam Viera Paulo 
and Maria Silveira 1731 Santo Amaro, Pico

I'm really looking forward to seeing him, it's been two years! Cheri and I 
really hope that we can make the dates align with his so that he can come with 
us to SLC next Spring!


Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Evee Silva Kiler 
> wrote:
It sure does, Rosemarie.  Thanks!  Glad to hear Joao Ventura of Terceira is 
back in the States doing some teaching!!  Wish I could be there...  Evee

On Sunday, March 18, 2018 at 10:39:41 AM UTC-6, rcapodc wrote:
Good morning, Evee!
I think that you are right on all of the names. Joao Vieira Paulo is the 
widower of Maria and I believe you are right it's Maria Pereira, not parents 
listed. The disobregado quaresma means that he's done his Easter duty 
(confession) and so has the bride. I believe all of the other names are as you 
stated. Hope this helps!

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 8:34 AM, Evee Silva Kiler  wrote:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SANTOAMARO-C-1698-1779/PIC-SR-SANTOAMARO-C-1698-1779_item1/P91.html

This top right record, I believe, is the marriage record for Joam Vieira Paulo 
and Maria Silveira - date 4 Nov 1731 -In Santo Amaro Pico.

I am trying to figure out the parents of Joam.  I believe I see that the 
parents of Maria Silveira are Manuel Silveira and Agueda Joao from Santa 
Barbara, Pico.

I believe Joam is the widower of Maria Pereira.

In two places in the recrod I see something like:  "dezbriguado/a a quaryma".  
I don't know if this means the same as desobriga (exemption from)??And the 
quaryma?? I can't find at all.


Anyway, from about the middle of the record, where the writing starts to get 
bigger and Joam Viera Paulo's name appears, I need some help!  I have stared at 
it for many hours!!!

Thank you so much!

Evee







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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Dispensation Project

[nancy jean baptiste]

I can only hope!!!


She's my direct maternal line


Nancy


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 7:24:55 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Dispensation Project

Nancy, if you find a relative marrying in 1700 with a dispensation and they are 
4th cousins it means that you will get info back to the 3rd greats so, it may 
take you back to the early 1600's who knows? I believe that they had to show 
their relationship back 3 or 4 generations in some cases so you never know what 
you might get. Very exciting possibilities.

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 4:43 PM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

I was hoping the records would go back to the early 1600's in hopes of more 
info regarding my Ursula Pereira from Calheta.


I'm sure they'll be lots of discoveries regardless!


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 4:47:32 PM

To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Dispensation Project

I know, Nancy, it's going to be so helpful to so many! I made a mistake in 
saying which years had the most dispensations. The bulk are pre 1800 but that's 
even better for us going back. Maybe we will come up with our elusive 
connection!! LOL


Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 2:42 PM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Very exciting!


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 3:36:56 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Dispensation Project

Richard, this is something that the Sao Jorge Facebook page has undertaken. It 
would be a great thing for the other Islands to try also but who knows! Just 
email to the email addy given and they will give you the info regarding how to 
donate. I can hardly wait as the chances of finding a Dispensation are greatly 
increased by the number of 'cousins' you have marrying each other! This is 
especially helpful if you are at the end of the Churhc Records of 
Baptism/Marriage/Deaths and have no other resource to extend your lines.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 9:03 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
<richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com<mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:

Rosemarie,



I would encourage all researchers to help with this project as it may encourage 
this type of record to also be scanned on the other Islands.

Is there a web site where we can donate using a credit card? The link below is 
only to send them an email.





Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH



Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores







From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of 
Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 11:24 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Dispensation Project



Dear All,

Sao Jorge researchers have been in contact with the Archives in Angra about 
scanning the dispensation records for the whole Island! This project will 
include dispensations from the earliest (1722) with the bulk from the 1800's. 
The Archive has counted the scans and will include a total of 2080. The total 
cost will be about $1800 American dollars plus the conversion rate to change 
into Euros. At present, the Project has collected well over half of that total. 
These scans, when finished, will be made available free to all!  If you have 
not already contributed to the Project, please feel free to write to 
saojorgeproj...@gmail.com<mailto:saojorgeproj...@gmail.com> for more info on 
donating. 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Dispensation Project

[nancy jean baptiste]

I was hoping the records would go back to the early 1600's in hopes of more 
info regarding my Ursula Pereira from Calheta.


I'm sure they'll be lots of discoveries regardless!


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 4:47:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Dispensation Project

I know, Nancy, it's going to be so helpful to so many! I made a mistake in 
saying which years had the most dispensations. The bulk are pre 1800 but that's 
even better for us going back. Maybe we will come up with our elusive 
connection!! LOL


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 2:42 PM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Very exciting!


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 3:36:56 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Dispensation Project

Richard, this is something that the Sao Jorge Facebook page has undertaken. It 
would be a great thing for the other Islands to try also but who knows! Just 
email to the email addy given and they will give you the info regarding how to 
donate. I can hardly wait as the chances of finding a Dispensation are greatly 
increased by the number of 'cousins' you have marrying each other! This is 
especially helpful if you are at the end of the Churhc Records of 
Baptism/Marriage/Deaths and have no other resource to extend your lines.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 9:03 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
<richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com<mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:

Rosemarie,



I would encourage all researchers to help with this project as it may encourage 
this type of record to also be scanned on the other Islands.

Is there a web site where we can donate using a credit card? The link below is 
only to send them an email.





Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH



Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores







From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of 
Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 11:24 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Dispensation Project



Dear All,

Sao Jorge researchers have been in contact with the Archives in Angra about 
scanning the dispensation records for the whole Island! This project will 
include dispensations from the earliest (1722) with the bulk from the 1800's. 
The Archive has counted the scans and will include a total of 2080. The total 
cost will be about $1800 American dollars plus the conversion rate to change 
into Euros. At present, the Project has collected well over half of that total. 
These scans, when finished, will be made available free to all!  If you have 
not already contributed to the Project, please feel free to write to 
saojorgeproj...@gmail.com<mailto:saojorgeproj...@gmail.com> for more info on 
donating. This will benefit ALL Sao Jorge researchers!

If you are not aware of what Dispensation records are, they are records 
associated with marriages between relatives (cousins, niece and uncle, nephew 
and aunt etc.). In these instances, dispensation to marry had to be granted by 
the Bishop. If you are lucky enough to have a dispensation from 1722, it may 
give you another 2 or 3 generations of grandparents going back to the 1600's! 
Very valuable documents.

Thanks to all of you who have donated already!



Rosemarie

rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>

Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Dispensation Project

[nancy jean baptiste]

Very exciting!


Nancy Jean


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Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 3:36:56 PM
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Richard, this is something that the Sao Jorge Facebook page has undertaken. It 
would be a great thing for the other Islands to try also but who knows! Just 
email to the email addy given and they will give you the info regarding how to 
donate. I can hardly wait as the chances of finding a Dispensation are greatly 
increased by the number of 'cousins' you have marrying each other! This is 
especially helpful if you are at the end of the Churhc Records of 
Baptism/Marriage/Deaths and have no other resource to extend your lines.


Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 9:03 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
> 
wrote:

Rosemarie,



I would encourage all researchers to help with this project as it may encourage 
this type of record to also be scanned on the other Islands.

Is there a web site where we can donate using a credit card? The link below is 
only to send them an email.





Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH



Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores







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Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 11:24 AM
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Dispensation Project



Dear All,

Sao Jorge researchers have been in contact with the Archives in Angra about 
scanning the dispensation records for the whole Island! This project will 
include dispensations from the earliest (1722) with the bulk from the 1800's. 
The Archive has counted the scans and will include a total of 2080. The total 
cost will be about $1800 American dollars plus the conversion rate to change 
into Euros. At present, the Project has collected well over half of that total. 
These scans, when finished, will be made available free to all!  If you have 
not already contributed to the Project, please feel free to write to 
saojorgeproj...@gmail.com for more info on 
donating. This will benefit ALL Sao Jorge researchers!

If you are not aware of what Dispensation records are, they are records 
associated with marriages between relatives (cousins, niece and uncle, nephew 
and aunt etc.). In these instances, dispensation to marry had to be granted by 
the Bishop. If you are lucky enough to have a dispensation from 1722, it may 
give you another 2 or 3 generations of grandparents going back to the 1600's! 
Very valuable documents.

Thanks to all of you who have donated already!



Rosemarie

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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unusual Record - Born at sea.

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Wow Rick! Very interesting!


Nancy Jean


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What a great record, Richard! Someone will appreciate that info a some point in 
their research!

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
> wrote:

I came across the most unusual record today and it is worth sharing. It is a 
birth record recorded among the baptismal records of Ribeirinha in Sao Miguel 
It is recorded on 20 September 1888,  Manuel son of Antonio Joaquim do Rego 
from Ribeirinha and Helena de Jesus Alves from Bretanha. Sao Miguel  The steam 
ship Berlim was traveling from Baia, Brazil to Terceira.  He was born on 16 May 
1888 at 8:22 am at 8 degrees 45 minutes north Latitude and 29 degrees 57 
minutes west longitude.



The parents were married in Ribeirinha and must have went to Brazil and were 
returning to the Acores.



Number 88 Manuel 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889_item1/P398.html



Rick

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cordeiro de Miranda Family

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Thank you John,


There's a woman in the Azores DNA Project than I told to contact you because 
she's looking for an unknown bio father and you show as a good cousin match. 
Debbie? Maybe she connects to the Mass Miranda's since she lives in New Bedford 
area.


Best regards,

Nancy Jean


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Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:26:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cordeiro de Miranda Family

Thanks, John. Don't connect with them but I'm sure there are people on this 
list that will connect.


Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 12:08 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
> wrote:
Dear fellow List Members:

As some of you know I have been researching the Miranda family of the Parish of 
Bretanha in S. Miguel for many years. There are five main branches, one of 
which is the Cordeiro de Miranda family. That particular branch is very well 
represented in the Azorean Diaspora that settled in Massachusetts and in 
Fortaleza, Ceará, Brazil. My cousin Licínio Nunes de Miranda of Fortaleza has 
created a page on Facebook, Familia Cordeiro de Miranda, and would welcome the 
participation of any Cordeiro de Mirandas, particularly any descendants of 
Francisco Cordeiro de Miranda and his wife Mariana Augusta da Estrela.
Regards,

John Miranda Raposo

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tour Company

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Yes, I have some info...


From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:33:29 PM
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Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tour Company


Cheri, Nancy Jean & Donald;  Thank you for this information.  I’ve been telling 
my husband that we didn’t need a tour or tour guide but; he is the type that 
likes everything planned out.  Me, I’m the type that like to wing things.  
(opposite attract, right?! LOL)  I also mentioned to him that one can’t plan to 
far in advance as taking a boat from island to island can be unpredictable due 
to the weather conditions.  I am right, aren’t I?



Ok, obviously, I’ve now got to get busy and do some internet searching.  If 
anyone has the name of a good taxi driver/guide that speaks good English on any 
of the islands mentioned; Faial, Santa Maria, Sao Jorge or Flores or of a B 
they particularly liked please feel free to share that info. with me.  Please 
send it directly to me so as not to fill this list with information others 
aren’t interested in. aportugee @ yahoo.com (no spaces)



Sam (Mazatlan, MX)



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Hi Sam,



I agree with Don. Airbnb or HomeAway both have great houses in the Azores and 
local drivers are easy to find. Lot's of taxi's are bilingual and know how to 
show you the islands.



Come for a little visit to Pico!



Best to you,

Nancy Jean



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Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:59:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tour Company



Also try AirBnB to rent a house and use local drivers as tour guides.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Cheri Mello 
<gfsche...@gmail.com<mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Con Ginny-Al Tours from around Oakland, California used to do them, but they 
retired. Maybe others know of some.

The festas run from about May through around September or so. So any time 
during the summer is good. If you are looking for a festa in your ancestors 
freguesia, you'll have to hunt around for that information. They could have 
their festa in July, or May, or or or. So you'll have to do some digging.

Good luck, Cheri


Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada



On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 10:41 AM, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
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Hi everyone;  My husband and I are contemplating a trip to the Azores this 
summer.  I know many of you have spoken of a tour company that can do 
customized tours to different islands but; I don’t remember the name of the 
company.  Can anyone help?



Also, opinions as to the best month to travel to the Azores?



I am primarily interested in going to Faial, Santa Maria, Sao Jorge and Flores.



Thanks much,

Sam (Mazatlan, MX)





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tour Company

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Hi Sam,


I agree with Don. Airbnb or HomeAway both have great houses in the Azores and 
local drivers are easy to find. Lot's of taxi's are bilingual and know how to 
show you the islands.


Come for a little visit to Pico!


Best to you,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Donald 
Vasconcelos 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:59:23 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tour Company

Also try AirBnB to rent a house and use local drivers as tour guides.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Cheri Mello 
> wrote:

Con Ginny-Al Tours from around Oakland, California used to do them, but they 
retired. Maybe others know of some.

The festas run from about May through around September or so. So any time 
during the summer is good. If you are looking for a festa in your ancestors 
freguesia, you'll have to hunt around for that information. They could have 
their festa in July, or May, or or or. So you'll have to do some digging.
Good luck, Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 10:41 AM, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
> wrote:

Hi everyone;  My husband and I are contemplating a trip to the Azores this 
summer.  I know many of you have spoken of a tour company that can do 
customized tours to different islands but; I don’t remember the name of the 
company.  Can anyone help?



Also, opinions as to the best month to travel to the Azores?



I am primarily interested in going to Faial, Santa Maria, Sao Jorge and Flores.



Thanks much,

Sam (Mazatlan, MX)



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal / Boas Festas thread (use this one only)

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Feliz Natal e Feliz Ano Novo!


Nancy Jean Baptista


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal / Boas Festas thread (use this one 
only)

Feliz Natal, Boas Festas, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year everyone - what a 
great group you are!!

MaryAnn Santos

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Feliz Natal and Boas Festas to all!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lionel Holmes

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My sincere condolences to all of  the family of  Lionel Holmes.


Nancy Jean


From: carabela via Azores Genealogy 
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lionel Holmes

I send my deepest sympathy & prayers to the family. Lionel was such a big help!
Sherry Barnhurst


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Sent: Fri, Oct 20, 2017 8:05 am
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lionel Holmes

Steve, Doug and family,

My sincerest condolences in the passing of your dear Lionel.  He had been such 
an inspiration to me as I started off in my genealogy adventure so many years 
ago.  May God bless all of you at this time.  When someone you love becomes a 
memory, the memory becomes a treasure.

"E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Simao in the Azores

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Hi Fernando,


Interesting about your Simas family being shipbuilders. I wonder if that skill 
was brought from the Azores. I have strong DNA links to Simas family members in 
Santo Amaro, "Terra dos Barco's", shipbuilding village on Pico. There are many 
Simas in Santo Amaro.


Perhap's if you've DNA tested you could see if you match any of the Santo Amaro 
people.


Kind regards,

Nancy Jean Baptista


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Fernando 
Horn Batista 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 12:28:38 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Simao in the Azores

Good afternoon, John, unfortunately I do not have all these details. What I do 
know is that the "Simas" family came from the Azores around the 18th century to 
the coast of Santa Catarina in Brazil. The elders of the family said that the 
real name would be "Simons", there is a whole suspicion that they were Jews. 
The last name we can get in our tree is "Jose Luis Simas" who was married to 
"Maria Roza de Jesus". These were the parents of Amaro José de Simas.

The family was Shipbuilders and had and still has many customs of new 
Christians. Thank you very much, any information you have will be extremely 
useful.

Em segunda-feira, 3 de julho de 2017 18:59:29 UTC-3, John Raposo escreveu:
Do you have more specifics? Which island, parish, what time frame? etc. I have 
done some extensive research on the Simas family (as has Doug Holmes da Rocha). 
The patriarch is Domingos de Simas (probably a Spanish hidalgo; we know he 
claimed to be an armiger). One of his sone went to Terceira and thos Simas 
spread out to the other islands. Simas, Simao, Simon??? Those names could be 
easily corrruped in  transcription. Let me know if I can help.

John Miranda Raposo


On Monday, July 3, 2017 4:38 PM, Cheri Mello  
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Repost for Fernando Horn Batista, fehorn at gmail.com

My great-great-grandfather was "Amaro José de Simas", but ... he was married to 
a Lady named "Maria Norberta da Conceição"(Surname equal to that of Rosa 
Joaquina Emilia Da Conceicao). They also come from the Azores and also say that 
the family came from England to the Azores because of religious persecution, 
which in fact the surname would be Simons (In English) and was translated on 
arrival in Azores. My great-uncle said that the family name was "Simão" (in 
Portuguese) and that they translated it wrong. As I'm a history teacher and 
seeing all the coincidences linked to the name, I perceive a GREAT chance of 
the family having Jewish origin and this would explain some changes of name, as 
the case of "Mendez" (Jewish name). I hope to be able to exchange information 
with everyone who wants. Thank you so much! See you
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lunch at the Portuguese Conference in Salt Lake City

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What a nice picture! I'm sorry to miss the conference!


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sandra 
Perez 
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 7:03:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lunch at the Portuguese Conference in Salt Lake 
City

Cheri,

Are you 3rd on the left next to the lady in the pink top?  Is that Rose Maria 
5th on right in the green top?

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Maria Lima 
> wrote:
Love it!  So nice to see faces and try to figure out who is who.  I only 
recognized CHERI.  I showed the photo to my husband who is the Azoreano.

Thanks,  wish I could be there.  If we can sell our house, we plan to move to 
salt Lake so I can always attend conference and even be of service.

Best to all of you

Maria Elena

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Here's lunch at the cafeteria in Salt Lake. Thursday is prime rib day! We took 
over one table and then some! Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ribeira Seca Earthquake death list

[nancy jean baptiste]

Thank you Suzanne!


Nancy


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Sme 
<climbatr...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 2:19:03 PM
To: azores
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ribeira Seca Earthquake death list

Nancy.  These are the two links.  They are only portions of the book Notas 
Historicas  of Calheta.

The  Victims of the 1757  earthquake on Sao Jorge, parishes of Ribeira Seca and 
of Calheta will be sent to Kathy for uplink to Azores site.

Suzanne

http://www.portugueseancestry.com/genresources/sjgen.cfm
http://www.portugueseancestry.com/genresources/sjgen1.cfm



On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 9:20 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Could you tell me which links to Notas are the ones that you are finding 
ancestors from Sao Jorge?


Thanks,

Nancy Jean


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ribeira Seca Earthquake death list

Kellie,  yw.   I googled  Notas Historicas  and those two links came up.  Did 
the translate work well?  I've been cutting and pasting b/c I couldn't get it 
to translate well.

Suzanne

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:05 PM, Kellie Crnkovich 
<kelliemhal...@gmail.com<mailto:kelliemhal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I went to the links that were posted for the Notas Historicas Volume 1 and 2 
excerpts and hit translate I was surprised to start reading and see that is 
basically has my family history woww.  I am still reading through it all 
but wanted to say thank you for the link. I had Joao de Aqueda's (10th great 
granfather) name but to now see all this about him and his descendants is 
amazing.  I wish they would publish the books in English.  Guess it is time to 
take Portuguese lessons and learn way more.  Thank you for the awesome link.

Kellie Crnkovich

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 7:00:33 PM UTC-5, Sme wrote:
Would the victims of the 9 July 1757 earthquake for Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge be 
of interest to the forum?   It is in a word doc   format.

Suzanne

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ribeira Seca Earthquake death list

[nancy jean baptiste]

Could you tell me which links to Notas are the ones that you are finding 
ancestors from Sao Jorge?


Thanks,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sme 

Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 11:54:06 PM
To: azores
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ribeira Seca Earthquake death list

Kellie,  yw.   I googled  Notas Historicas  and those two links came up.  Did 
the translate work well?  I've been cutting and pasting b/c I couldn't get it 
to translate well.

Suzanne

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:05 PM, Kellie Crnkovich 
> wrote:
I went to the links that were posted for the Notas Historicas Volume 1 and 2 
excerpts and hit translate I was surprised to start reading and see that is 
basically has my family history woww.  I am still reading through it all 
but wanted to say thank you for the link. I had Joao de Aqueda's (10th great 
granfather) name but to now see all this about him and his descendants is 
amazing.  I wish they would publish the books in English.  Guess it is time to 
take Portuguese lessons and learn way more.  Thank you for the awesome link.

Kellie Crnkovich

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 7:00:33 PM UTC-5, Sme wrote:
Would the victims of the 9 July 1757 earthquake for Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge be 
of interest to the forum?   It is in a word doc   format.

Suzanne

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[nancy jean baptiste]

Don, I think this is the same family but I don't have this person...I have:


Adjudante,Antonio da Silveira Leonardes married to Micaela do Rosario in 1777


Capitao, Caetano da Silveira Leonardes married to Antonia Maria in 1740


Capitao, Francisco Teixeira Leonardes married to Luisa do Espirito Santo da 
Silveira in 1685


Any of these familiar?


Nancy Jean


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Vasconcelos <dfvasc...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 4:53:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João 
Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

Nancy and Eric,
This might be how I am connected to Nancy.
Do you have a Francisca Maria de Jesus (b. Topo 10 Oct 1770) married Adjutant 
Warrant Officer Francisco da Silverado Leonardo on 7 Nov 1803 in your tree?
Don Vasconcelos

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:30 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:


Eric,


These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their 
daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you among 
my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza?


Best regards,

Nancy Jean


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<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João 
Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

Eric,
There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85
Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo.


Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza 
<ericcharles.so...@gmail.com<mailto:ericcharles.so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html

16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo

Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza Machado? 
And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?

Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?

Thanks!

- Eric

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[nancy jean baptiste]

Eric,


These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their 
daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you among 
my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza?


Best regards,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci 
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João 
Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

Eric,
There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85
Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza 
> wrote:
I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html

16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo

Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza Machado? 
And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?

Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?

Thanks!

- Eric

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Standardized names

[nancy jean baptiste]

I also have an Agueda Silveira Leonardes, born 1809, all her records say 
"Agueda".


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Cheri 
Mello 
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 7:19:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Standardized names

Sorry, I'm finding Águeda as a first name of a woman on Sao Miguel island. The 
modern spelling is Águeda as JR said.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Ângela Loura 
> wrote:
Ágata.
Águeda is a place.

2017-08-09 18:21 GMT+01:00 Sme 
>:
Agada or Agueda?   (femlale first name)


Suzanne

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SAUDADES DA TERRA

[nancy jean baptiste]

Eliseu, Thanks for the link but I can't make it work. Is this correct? 
wetransfer?


Thanks, Nancy Jean


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Pacheco da Silva 
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:32:25 AM
To: AZORES GENEALOGY - Google group
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] SAUDADES DA TERRA

I am sending by wetransfer the full version of Saudades da Terra.
Hope it comes through…
Muito Obrigado,
Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
“Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources”
Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel to Pico in August

[nancy jean baptiste]

Shouldn't be any problem getting to Pico in August andyou can book with SATA 
through to Pico.


Nancy Jean


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Mello 
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 7:52:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel to Pico in August

I think you can get from Terceira to Pico by either boat or plane. SATA is the 
inter-island carrier. There's some talk of them striking though.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 4:40 PM, "E" Sharp 
> wrote:
A relative has invited my husband and I to their home in Pico the beginning of 
August. We would leave out of Oakland to Terceira, I guess.  How does one get 
from Terceira to Pico? Are the flights usually full this time of year Oakland 
to Terceira in August?

Thanks,
"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unusual Baptism NS Estrella 1811

[nancy jean baptiste]

Interesting record Rick. I couldn't tell what the words meant after baptized 
for sub condition...do you know? Also, Antonio was an adult but I didn't see an 
age?


Thanks for posting it.


Nancy Jean


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Francis Pimentel 
Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 3:18:20 PM
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unusual Baptism NS Estrella 1811

This is an unusual record. Just thought I would share it with everyone.  It is 
a baptism of Antonio and adult slave  of Alfres Jose Leonardo of the Parish of 
NS Estrela. Conditionally baptized

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1810-1814/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1810-1814_item1/P30.html
  upper left record

Rick

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] THOMAS HICKLING AND HIS WIFE SARAH FALDES - S. Miguel - Ponta Delgada

[nancy jean baptiste]

Thank you for sharing this with us! I always learn a great deal from your 
historical postings!


Best regards,

Nancy Jean Baptista


From: 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 10:58:30 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] THOMAS HICKLING AND HIS WIFE SARAH FALDES - S. 
Miguel - Ponta Delgada

Actually, Marilyn, you probably do but just haven't found him/her yet. Keep 
digging.

John Miranda Raposo


On Friday, April 28, 2017 11:46 AM, Marilyn Thompson  wrote:


Thank you John for this wonderful and informative article. I wish I had someone 
important enough to have such a rich history of their lives.

Call me green with envy

Marilyn

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Margaret Vicente 
> wrote:
John,

Wonderful article and so complete.  I will take me a while to digest it.

May I email you privately as you may have the answer for my question with 
having all this background on the family?

Thank you so much!

Margaret





On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:40 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
> wrote:
Margaret,

This is from an article I wrote many years ago.

Yankee Azoreans


John Miranda Raposo


This is not a work about the thousands of immigrants who have come to New 
England from the nine islands of the Azores. Rather, this work is primarily 
concerned with the descendants of Thomas Hickling, a Boston Yankee who settled 
on São Miguel and became the patriarch of a large clan on both sides of the 
Atlantic.

Thomas Hickling was born in Boston on 21-2-1744 into the prosperous merchant 
family of  William Hickling of Nottingham, England and Sarah Townsend Sale. At 
the age of eighteen, his father arranged an apprenticeship for him with the 
prosperous Green brothers and in 1764 he married their sister, Sarah Emily 
Green, fifteen years his senior, in Boston's old Trinity 
Church.[1] 
There is some speculation that it was a marriage of convenience, arranged 
either for social or economic reasons, or both. In any event Hickling fulfilled 
his marital duty becoming the father of two children by his first wife. 
Catherine Green Hickling was born in Salem in 1768 and William Green Hickling 
was born in 1765. Their father soon left his family and located to the 
Caribbean where he traded in molasses which he shipped back to his father's 
distillery in 
Boston.[2] He 
must have been an enterprising sort, for he perceived the commercial 
possibilities in the Azores because in 1769 be was living in Ponta Delgada. 
Thomas Hickling never returned to America and never lived anywhere else.

He became one of the principal developers of the orange trade, the export of 
oranges to England, which became the basis for the colossal fortunes of many of 
São Miguel's socially prominent families and paid for the construction of many 
a palácio, those grand manor houses with their lovely English and French 
gardens still seen throughout the island. In 1820 Hickling exported nearly 
5,700 crates or oranges and 2,000 crates of lemons from Ponta Delgada. But the 
firm of his sons-in-law Ivens & Burnett exported over 11,000 
crates.[3] At 
the height of the orange age 93% of the oranges produced in São Miguel were 
exported.  But the Hicklings and many other "gentlemen farmers" were brought to 
financial ruin at the end of the century when the orange trade came to an end, 
victim of a blight that first attacked the orange groves in 1834, again in 1860 
and finally destroyed the remaining groves at the end of the century. The 
financial ruin resulted in a reduced standard of living for these "gentlemen 
farmers", many of whom could no longer afford the upkeep on their  lovely homes 
and gardens. Many can still be seen in the suburbs surrounding Ponta Delgada 
and Lagoa,  their dilapidated state a silent witness to both the greatness and 
the misery of the 
age.[4]

News traveled slowly and it must have been months before Hickling learned that 
Sarah Green, the wife he had last seen twelve years earlier, had died in Boston 
in May of 1774. He could not have mourned her death very much for not long 
after, in February 1778,  the young widower married Suzanne Sarah Falder of 
Philadelphia, fifteen years his junior. It must have been love at first sight 
since the young Sarah just happened to be passing through Ponta Delgada in the 
company of her father, Thomas Falder. Between the time of their marriage and 
1808 they produced 16 children, all born in São Miguel, including two sets of 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question about baptism wording

[nancy jean baptiste]

Hi Eddie,


I noticed your Antonio Pedroza Borba Jr...I have Alferes Antonio Pedroso de 
Borba but mine is much earlier...he married in 1701the family connects to 
Norte Pequeno, Calheta, Norte Grande and Topothey're all over that end of 
Sao Jorge


Perhaps an ancestor of yours.


Regards,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Eddie 
Machado 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 12:32:27 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question about baptism wording

Thanks, Cheri, I couldn't read disposada. So they were engaged for a long time 
and had at least 3 kids while not married. The link below is my 2x great 
grandmother's baptism.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1839-1854/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1839-1854_item1/P137.html

What was the month that Joam was born in the first link  I had? I though it 
said the 6 day of the month of April in the year 1844.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy Easter - Feliz Pascoa thread

[nancy jean baptiste]

Happy Easter to all of you fellow researchers and cousins.


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Mary Bordi 

Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 1:18:03 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy Easter - Feliz Pascoa thread

Happy Easter all!

I managed to bake some Easter bread this year. Wish I could share it will 
everyone!

Mary

On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 8:26 AM Cheri Mello 
> wrote:
Happy Easter and Feliz Pascoa to all!

If you would like to send your Easter greetings, hit reply and respond to this 
thread ONLY. Do NOT start your own Easter thread.

You may send your Easter greetings on Saturday and Sunday. If it's Monday in 
your time zone, you are too late. The Easter greeting thread will be done by 
then.
Thanks, Cheri
Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

[nancy jean baptiste]

Rosemarie,


Thank you! Enjoy your day!


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 10:31:21 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

Nancy, There is a Joao Dias Teixeira in the index with about 5 or 6 references. 
I looked up one and he is married to an Ines Lourenco, that's not to say he 
didn't marry your girl later (or before!). I don't have time to look at the 
rest right now, I'm off to work at my volunteer job in a few! When I come back 
this afternoon, I'll look the rest of the references up and let you know what 
is there.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:02 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Rosemarie,


My earliest maternal ancestor is from there.


Ursula Pereira married to Joao Dias Teixeiramarried Jan.8, 1636...in Calheta


I'd love to find anything about them and hoped they were in the book


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:56:08 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

Nancy Jean, someone said that there is a PDF version out there but I don't have 
that info. I bought the two book set several years ago from a book dealer in 
Lisbon. There may be someone on the list that knows of the PDF. You might also 
try Hathitrust.org (it's the U of Mich digital website) for the books. Sorry I 
don't have more info on the books. They are well worth buying if you have 
people from Calheta.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 7:52 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Congratulations!


Rosemarie, is Notas Historicas available online?


Thanks,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:59:40 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

All thanks to you, Louie! I would never have thought to look for them in 
Terceira. I was getting ready to check out all of the villages on Sao Jorge, 
now I don't have to do that! Yay!


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Louie Avila 
<louielouieo...@gmail.com<mailto:louielouieo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
My Grandmother always told me that her Parents were from Portal, Sao Jorge ... 
it was so sparsely populated that sometimes they had a baptism in Calheta, 
sometimes Ribeira Seca, Norte Pequeno, Norte Grande ... Makes it so hard but 
very rewarding when it comes through!

Yay Rosemarie!

Never give up!

Louie

On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 at 9:23:16 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
I just had to share my find of the year! While emailing Louie Avila last week, 
he mentioned something about couples from Sao Jorge going to Terceira to marry. 
Who knows really why but it happened. My Thomas Jose was from Calheta, Sao 
Jorge and Barbara Caetana from Ribeira Seca, SJ. The marriage records for both 
villages are there for the time period needed but I could not find them. After 
Louie mentioned the possibility of Terceira, I checked the Terceira marriage 
records PDF. Low and behold, there they were in 1754! I know it is them because 
I did know Thomas' parents names. To make it even better, Barbara's Mom is the 
sis of one of my greatgrandfathers! I already had them in my database. So, 
don't give up, follow up every clue no matter how suspect! Now I have four more 
generations in my tree. Some of them are even mentioned in Notas Historicas 
which is about the village of Calheta.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

[nancy jean baptiste]

Rosemarie,


My earliest maternal ancestor is from there.


Ursula Pereira married to Joao Dias Teixeiramarried Jan.8, 1636...in Calheta


I'd love to find anything about them and hoped they were in the book


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:56:08 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

Nancy Jean, someone said that there is a PDF version out there but I don't have 
that info. I bought the two book set several years ago from a book dealer in 
Lisbon. There may be someone on the list that knows of the PDF. You might also 
try Hathitrust.org (it's the U of Mich digital website) for the books. Sorry I 
don't have more info on the books. They are well worth buying if you have 
people from Calheta.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 7:52 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Congratulations!


Rosemarie, is Notas Historicas available online?


Thanks,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:59:40 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

All thanks to you, Louie! I would never have thought to look for them in 
Terceira. I was getting ready to check out all of the villages on Sao Jorge, 
now I don't have to do that! Yay!


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Louie Avila 
<louielouieo...@gmail.com<mailto:louielouieo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
My Grandmother always told me that her Parents were from Portal, Sao Jorge ... 
it was so sparsely populated that sometimes they had a baptism in Calheta, 
sometimes Ribeira Seca, Norte Pequeno, Norte Grande ... Makes it so hard but 
very rewarding when it comes through!

Yay Rosemarie!

Never give up!

Louie

On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 at 9:23:16 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
I just had to share my find of the year! While emailing Louie Avila last week, 
he mentioned something about couples from Sao Jorge going to Terceira to marry. 
Who knows really why but it happened. My Thomas Jose was from Calheta, Sao 
Jorge and Barbara Caetana from Ribeira Seca, SJ. The marriage records for both 
villages are there for the time period needed but I could not find them. After 
Louie mentioned the possibility of Terceira, I checked the Terceira marriage 
records PDF. Low and behold, there they were in 1754! I know it is them because 
I did know Thomas' parents names. To make it even better, Barbara's Mom is the 
sis of one of my greatgrandfathers! I already had them in my database. So, 
don't give up, follow up every clue no matter how suspect! Now I have four more 
generations in my tree. Some of them are even mentioned in Notas Historicas 
which is about the village of Calheta.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

[nancy jean baptiste]

Congratulations!


Rosemarie, is Notas Historicas available online?


Thanks,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:59:40 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

All thanks to you, Louie! I would never have thought to look for them in 
Terceira. I was getting ready to check out all of the villages on Sao Jorge, 
now I don't have to do that! Yay!


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Louie Avila 
> wrote:
My Grandmother always told me that her Parents were from Portal, Sao Jorge ... 
it was so sparsely populated that sometimes they had a baptism in Calheta, 
sometimes Ribeira Seca, Norte Pequeno, Norte Grande ... Makes it so hard but 
very rewarding when it comes through!

Yay Rosemarie!

Never give up!

Louie

On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 at 9:23:16 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
I just had to share my find of the year! While emailing Louie Avila last week, 
he mentioned something about couples from Sao Jorge going to Terceira to marry. 
Who knows really why but it happened. My Thomas Jose was from Calheta, Sao 
Jorge and Barbara Caetana from Ribeira Seca, SJ. The marriage records for both 
villages are there for the time period needed but I could not find them. After 
Louie mentioned the possibility of Terceira, I checked the Terceira marriage 
records PDF. Low and behold, there they were in 1754! I know it is them because 
I did know Thomas' parents names. To make it even better, Barbara's Mom is the 
sis of one of my greatgrandfathers! I already had them in my database. So, 
don't give up, follow up every clue no matter how suspect! Now I have four more 
generations in my tree. Some of them are even mentioned in Notas Historicas 
which is about the village of Calheta.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Demographic Study DOWNLOAD BY 3/20/2017

[nancy jean baptiste]

Very interesting. I think this same type of inheritance still occurs.


Nancy Jean



From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Mary Bordi 

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 6:53 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Demographic Study DOWNLOAD BY 
3/20/2017

Thank you Jeremy! I've just skimmed the first few pages.

The only ancestors I have on paper from Ribeira Seca were from the early 1700s 
but I must share DNA with some who still live there. At any rate, I am 
fascinated with the history and social aspects of the island and I suppose many 
of those were similar in Ribeira Seca and the freguesia my ancestors moved to 
(Norte Grande).

And thanks to the gentleman who researched, wrote it and shared.

Mary

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:35 PM 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy 
> wrote:
Per your requests, I am making available the pertinent parts (demographics) of 
a study that I have.

I hope that you will find it interesting - I think some of the statistical 
information included is absolutely fascinating.  If anyone has Ribeira Seca 
ancestry in particular it is a great aid.
I ask only that you not make this file available outside this group.

Please download the .pdf file by clicking:


https://sites.google.com/site/azoreangravestones/Sao%20Jorge%20Demographics.pdf?attredirects=0=1

This link will be deactivated at 12:00:00 Midnight Pacific Time 3/20/2016

Thank you,

Jeremy

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Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 6:53:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Demographic Study DOWNLOAD BY 
3/20/2017

Thank you Jeremy! I've just skimmed the first few pages.

The only ancestors I have on paper from Ribeira Seca were from the early 1700s 
but I must share DNA with some who still live there. At any rate, I am 
fascinated with the history and social aspects of the island and I suppose many 
of those were similar in Ribeira Seca and the freguesia my ancestors moved to 
(Norte Grande).

And thanks to the gentleman who researched, wrote it and shared.

Mary

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:35 PM 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy 
> wrote:
Per your requests, I am making available the pertinent parts (demographics) of 
a study that I have.

I hope that you will find it interesting - I think some of the statistical 
information included is absolutely fascinating.  If anyone has Ribeira Seca 
ancestry in particular it is a great aid.
I ask only that you not make this file available outside this group.

Please download the .pdf file by clicking:


https://sites.google.com/site/azoreangravestones/Sao%20Jorge%20Demographics.pdf?attredirects=0=1

This link will be deactivated at 12:00:00 Midnight Pacific Time 3/20/2016

Thank you,

Jeremy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Traveling to Azores in May looking into family of Jose Caton Alvares

[nancy jean baptiste]

There's a taxi driver on Pico who speaks good English and is also a 
genealogist. Jose Leo is his name.he's in Madalena and can be found usually 
on the square at the taxi spot.


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Alvares 

Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 8:26:22 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Traveling to Azores in May looking into family 
of Jose Caton Alvares

Thank you Cheri.  I have no data on the village, all family members have 
passed, but we will try to find more when we get there.

Bob

On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 3:49:53 PM UTC-8, Alvares wrote:
Born in 1866 , Pico and died in 1937.  He was married to Maria Ascencion Paul 
who was born in 1876.  I would like help on where to go on the Island searching 
information and a possible guide who knows about ancestry searches since we do 
not speak Portuguese.  Thanks in advance.  Bob

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DAR Seminar

[nancy jean baptiste]

Rosemarie,


When will the next SLC Conference be?


Thanks,


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 1:00:11 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DAR Seminar

I know, Linda, there just isn't enough time to just talk! You get so much more 
out of the day if you can socialize too because there are so many people with 
so many different experiences to share! Maybe you can make it to Salt Lake City 
with us someday, we have plenty of time then!!

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 10:25 AM, linda 
> wrote:
Rosemarie,

Thanks again!  I really enjoyed the class and the chance to chat with you again 
and to meet some of the other members of this group.  I really wish that we had 
a little more time for socializing-- I realize now that there were many more 
people in the room that I "know" from here and didn't get to say hello to in 
person.  I hope to have the chance to meet you all again another time!

:D

Linda

On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 3:41:46 PM UTC-8, rcapodc wrote:
Hi everyone who attended the DAR Seminar! I had a wonderful time with a 
wonderful group of people. Thanks so much for coming to the class there is so 
much to say and just not enough time!! LOL

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rois de Confessados de Velas

[nancy jean baptiste]

Jeremy,


Could you tell me your email address? I don't seem to see it?


Thanks,

Nancy


From: 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 11:45:31 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rois de Confessados de Velas

Yes Nancy!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help verifying names: Alferes Joam Soares de Figueiredo y Maria de Braga, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria

[nancy jean baptiste]

Interesting, I have a Capitao Mauricio de Sousa Meneses..from Santa Barbara, 
Santa Mariaclose names...maybe same family.


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of JR 

Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 3:35:58 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help verifying names: Alferes Joam Soares de 
Figueiredo y Maria de Braga, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria

Nov 5- 1733. You can verify date by nex record which is more discernible. He 
was named after godfather, Alferes, Luis de Figueiredo and godmother, Dona 
Maria de Andrade mulher de Capt Mauricio de Souza

JR

On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 1:16:25 PM UTC-5, apor...@yahoo.com wrote:
Middle of left page;  While looking for the birth of Dona Isabel de Conception 
de Figueiredo, I think I found her brother.  Does this record say Luis son of 
the above couple?  Born 5 October 1736?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1725-1745/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1725-1745_item1/P42.html

As always, thanks in advance for your help,
Sam (Mazatl?n, MX)




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

[nancy jean baptiste]

It's my understanding that if you are a grandchild and your parent was born in 
the U.S. that you need the language exam. I'd like to know if that is not the 
case if anyone knows!


Thanks,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Cheri 
Mello 
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:29:44 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

It sounds like the children or grandchildren don't need the language 
requirement, but greats onwards do.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: S?o Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
> wrote:
So am I understanding that you are not required to have a knowledge of the 
language to get dual citizenship?
That is my limiting factor.

Marilyn Thompson

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:45 AM, David Perry 
> wrote:
I too had a stumbling block - my father had changed his last name from Pereira 
to Perry.  That would be a "break" in the paper trail and was sufficient to 
deny my application.  Fortunately, I had a document from 1938 when my father 
legally changed his name using his two brothers as witnesses.  The San 
Francisco Consulate was a bit reluctant to accept anything that old and in fact 
they had rejected my father's birth certificate from the Azores also acquired 
in 1938 so I had to get a more recent copy.  Anyway, they sent everything off 
to Lisbon and someone in Lisbon apparently was happy with the name change 
document and approved my application.

My son had applied before I did in New York and was told he had to learn the 
language, etc., etc.  I applied in San Francisco with no such requirement - 
just submit the papers and pay the money.  After I received my citizenship, I 
sent my paper trail along with my Lisbon acceptance to my son in New York who 
was then able to sail through with no additional requirements and he received 
his citizenship in just a few weeks.

David


On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:28 AM, Phil Lopes 
> wrote:


I secured dual citizenship several years ago and it took 5+ years but the offer 
for second generation citizenship was new at the time. It seems the process now 
is less time consuming. My major stumbling block was that since I had lived in 
three countries, I had to secure police reports from each which was impossible. 
The block was only overcome by the Portuguese Consul General in San Francisco 
securing a waiver of this requirement for me.
Phil Lopes

On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 1:51:44 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote:
Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual 
citizenship?

Obrigado,

Colleen Wright
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Great Grandparents

[nancy jean baptiste]

My ggreat grandmother was Ana Luisa Medeiros from Lages, Pico


Nancy Jean


From: ':' via Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:14:24 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Great Grandparents

Hi George,
Do you know if any of your Medeiros ended up on Pico?
Ate logo,
Marie Pleasant  seekg...@aol.com



-Original Message-
From: George Medeiros 
To: Azores 
Sent: Mon, Jan 9, 2017 9:56 am
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Great Grandparents

I got my Family Finder test today and plan to do it. I was told many years ago 
by an Uncle that my
grandmother had 18 brothers and sisters. Today a cousin told me there were 20. 
I always had though my uncle was misinformed but now I am not sure. I knew she 
had 2 sisters and possibly 3
brothers but never thought her parents had 20 children. If this is so I guess I 
have a lot of cousins somewhere. My g.grandparents lived in Candalaria, Sao 
Miguel Island, Azores. I was told they go back to the 1500's on Sao Miguel. 
Have not posted lately been busy with other things. Want to thank those in this 
group who have helped me with info in the past. I know that my grandmother and 
grandfather were born on Sao Miguel Island, Azores. Some of the surnames in my 
family are Medeiros, Pereira, Perry, Araujo, Anjos, Soares, Cordeiro, Correia, 
Enes or Ines ?
and Esteves. Thanks for the help I have gotten from this group. I am certainly 
new at this research and not sure how well I will be able to do this research. 
George Medeiros

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rois de Confessados de Velas

[nancy jean baptiste]

Jeremy,


I'd love some look upsshall I contact you via separate email address?


Thanks,

Nancy Jean


From: 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 7:10:11 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rois de Confessados de Velas

Hello Guys!

I have, and have just finished sorting Rols from Velas YEARLY from 1793-1942! 
That is 150 separate Rols!
Unlike some that I had in excels, these are images of the actual documents!
I am happy to do lookups!

Jeremy Berry-Cahn
Researching: Sao Jorge, Pico, Faial, Graciosa, Flores, Teirceira

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help translating Machado Texiera birth on Sao Jorge

[nancy jean baptiste]

Sam,


Maria Netta, natural

Antonio??? Homen

Tome de Teixeira

Livor... also??residents of the same parish

Manuel de Sousa ??Lacerda??


Nancy Jean


From: aportugee via Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 4:48:35 PM
To: 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help translating Machado Texiera birth on Sao Jorge

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1698-1716/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1698-1716_item1/P194.html

This one is really tough for me.  If anyone can verify or correct what "I 
think" I see on this document, I would greatly appreciate it!


Manoel

18 October 1714

Son of Jose de Machado de Souza and Maria Netta ???

Manoel son of Jose de Machado de Souza and his wife, Maria Netta ?? residents 
of the Parochial Parish of the Apostle Sao Tiago, place of Reberia Seca, 
village of Calheta, island of Sao Jorge, born on the 18 day of October in the 
year of 1714, was baptized in this Parochial by me, ??? Homen, priest on the 
21st of this month and year. Godfather was Tome de ?? and Anna de Rosario 
Livor??, resident of this same parish Parochial place of ?? ? Manoel de 
Souza ? Francisco de Souza Texiera, day, month and year as above.


Sam (Mazatl?n, MX)




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

[nancy jean baptiste]

Mine was married to Teresa Maria de Jesus...I descend from Joao de Sousa 
Machado and Teresa's son, Joao Inacio de Sousa, b. 9-7-1736 in Norte 
Grandemarried first time, 7-12-1762 to

Maria Bernarda Poderosa,  and 2nd time to his son-in-laws sister, Joanna Maciel 
Alvares.


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Marilyn 
Thompson <mari...@jmtmlt.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 3:45:14 PM
To: Cheri Mello
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

I am going to chime in also. I have two Joao de Souza Machado's in my data 
base. What is the time period you are talking about?
Mine are father and son. The information I have is at the other end of the 
island, Ribeira Seca and Topo. It maybe 2 others by the same name.
Joao deSouza Machado b abt 1765 Ribeira Seca m 22 Apr 1789 Topo to Maria 
Antonia de  Azevedo b Topo ( I must not have this baptism yet)
   son: Joao deSouza Machado b 12 Feb 1799 Topo m 17 Nov 1823 Topo to Maria 
Delfina de Santo Antonio b 17 Feb 1801
and son: Manuel b 18 Nov 1791 Topo
The younger Joao deSouza Machado's brother is Manuel Joao Machado (My direct 
line) B 12 Sep 1824 Topo m 24 Sep 1849 to Isabel Joaquina b 23 Jan 1828 Ribeira 
Seca

Marilyn


On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Victor Soares 
<vsoa...@subvocal.com<mailto:vsoa...@subvocal.com>> wrote:
Nancy - you can delete everything after pg. 128 and then upload it to Google 
Translate: https://translate.google.com/?tr=f=en

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 12:00 PM nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Oh dear


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Cheri 
Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com<mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:58:31 PM
To: Azores Genealogy

Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture
Convert it to Word and run portions of it through an auto-translator. It says 
it's 310 pages, so that's a lot to translate. I don't have the ability to 
convert it to word, but Adobe Reader DC says that for a fee it can be converted 
to Word.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

I tried auto translate to English with no luck.any suggestions?


Nancy


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Victor 
Soares <vsoa...@subvocal.com<mailto:vsoa...@subvocal.com>>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM

To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
<rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6 children 
that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de Sousa and 
his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de Azevedo, all of 
Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I don't have marriages 
for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only recorded what I found 
while searching for my direct line.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but soon! I 
have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal line and the 
women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!


Nancy Jean!



From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me 
somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and 
eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

[nancy jean baptiste]

Thank you Victor...I'll give it a try. Is there nothing relevant to ancestors 
after pg. 128?


Nancy


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Victor 
Soares <vsoa...@subvocal.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 2:28:04 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

Nancy - you can delete everything after pg. 128 and then upload it to Google 
Translate: https://translate.google.com/?tr=f=en

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 12:00 PM nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Oh dear


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Cheri 
Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com<mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:58:31 PM
To: Azores Genealogy

Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture
Convert it to Word and run portions of it through an auto-translator. It says 
it's 310 pages, so that's a lot to translate. I don't have the ability to 
convert it to word, but Adobe Reader DC says that for a fee it can be converted 
to Word.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

I tried auto translate to English with no luck.any suggestions?


Nancy


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Victor 
Soares <vsoa...@subvocal.com<mailto:vsoa...@subvocal.com>>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM

To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
<rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6 children 
that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de Sousa and 
his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de Azevedo, all of 
Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I don't have marriages 
for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only recorded what I found 
while searching for my direct line.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but soon! I 
have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal line and the 
women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!


Nancy Jean!



From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me 
somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and 
eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her husband, 
Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will enjoy 
reading about my ancestor in other than church records.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares 
<vsoa...@subvocal.com<mailto:vsoa...@subvocal.com>> wrote:
I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, Society 
and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th 
centuries<https://sigarra.up.pt/flup/pt/pub_geral.show_file?pi_gdoc_id=726788>, 
while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa 
Machado<http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-O-1780-1797/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-O-1780-1797_item1/P252.html>
 on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our common 
ancestors)

It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture, 
aristocracy, l

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

[nancy jean baptiste]

Oh dear


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Cheri 
Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:58:31 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

Convert it to Word and run portions of it through an auto-translator. It says 
it's 310 pages, so that's a lot to translate. I don't have the ability to 
convert it to word, but Adobe Reader DC says that for a fee it can be converted 
to Word.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

I tried auto translate to English with no luck.any suggestions?


Nancy


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Victor 
Soares <vsoa...@subvocal.com<mailto:vsoa...@subvocal.com>>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM

To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
<rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6 children 
that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de Sousa and 
his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de Azevedo, all of 
Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I don't have marriages 
for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only recorded what I found 
while searching for my direct line.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but soon! I 
have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal line and the 
women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!


Nancy Jean!



From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me 
somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and 
eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her husband, 
Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will enjoy 
reading about my ancestor in other than church records.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares 
<vsoa...@subvocal.com<mailto:vsoa...@subvocal.com>> wrote:
I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, Society 
and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th 
centuries<https://sigarra.up.pt/flup/pt/pub_geral.show_file?pi_gdoc_id=726788>, 
while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa 
Machado<http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-O-1780-1797/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-O-1780-1797_item1/P252.html>
 on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our common 
ancestors)

It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture, 
aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this list 
is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a 
description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts:

  *   The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow of Domingos António, and her son 
Domingos António de Sousa during 6 years had to pay annually in cash 140,000 
reis and in goods 18 cheeses of 4 pounds each, 3 of 10 pounds and 8 barrels(?) 
of butter.

There are many other names in this dissertation so if your lines lead you to 
the council of Velas in São Jorge you should search through the dissertation. 
You may even find the design an ancestor used for branding their livestock!

-Victor Soares

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

[nancy jean baptiste]

I tried auto translate to English with no luck.any suggestions?


Nancy


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Victor 
Soares <vsoa...@subvocal.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
<rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6 children 
that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de Sousa and 
his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de Azevedo, all of 
Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I don't have marriages 
for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only recorded what I found 
while searching for my direct line.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but soon! I 
have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal line and the 
women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!


Nancy Jean!



From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me 
somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and 
eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her husband, 
Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will enjoy 
reading about my ancestor in other than church records.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares 
<vsoa...@subvocal.com<mailto:vsoa...@subvocal.com>> wrote:
I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, Society 
and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th 
centuries<https://sigarra.up.pt/flup/pt/pub_geral.show_file?pi_gdoc_id=726788>, 
while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa 
Machado<http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-O-1780-1797/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-O-1780-1797_item1/P252.html>
 on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our common 
ancestors)

It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture, 
aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this list 
is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a 
description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts:

  *   The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow of Domingos António, and her son 
Domingos António de Sousa during 6 years had to pay annually in cash 140,000 
reis and in goods 18 cheeses of 4 pounds each, 3 of 10 pounds and 8 barrels(?) 
of butter.

There are many other names in this dissertation so if your lines lead you to 
the council of Velas in São Jorge you should search through the dissertation. 
You may even find the design an ancestor used for branding their livestock!

-Victor Soares

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

[nancy jean baptiste]

Hm, I wonder if he had only 1 wife.


Nancy


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Victor 
Soares <vsoa...@subvocal.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
<rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6 children 
that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de Sousa and 
his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de Azevedo, all of 
Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I don't have marriages 
for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only recorded what I found 
while searching for my direct line.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but soon! I 
have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal line and the 
women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!


Nancy Jean!



From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me 
somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and 
eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her husband, 
Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will enjoy 
reading about my ancestor in other than church records.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares 
<vsoa...@subvocal.com<mailto:vsoa...@subvocal.com>> wrote:
I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, Society 
and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th 
centuries<https://sigarra.up.pt/flup/pt/pub_geral.show_file?pi_gdoc_id=726788>, 
while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa 
Machado<http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-O-1780-1797/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-O-1780-1797_item1/P252.html>
 on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our common 
ancestors)

It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture, 
aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this list 
is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a 
description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts:

  *   The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow of Domingos António, and her son 
Domingos António de Sousa during 6 years had to pay annually in cash 140,000 
reis and in goods 18 cheeses of 4 pounds each, 3 of 10 pounds and 8 barrels(?) 
of butter.

There are many other names in this dissertation so if your lines lead you to 
the council of Velas in São Jorge you should search through the dissertation. 
You may even find the design an ancestor used for branding their livestock!

-Victor Soares

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

[nancy jean baptiste]

OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but soon! I 
have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal line and the 
women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!


Nancy Jean!



From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci 
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me 
somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and 
eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her husband, 
Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will enjoy 
reading about my ancestor in other than church records.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares 
> wrote:
I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, Society 
and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th 
centuries, 
while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa 
Machado
 on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our common 
ancestors)

It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture, 
aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this list 
is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a 
description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts:

  *   The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow of Domingos António, and her son 
Domingos António de Sousa during 6 years had to pay annually in cash 140,000 
reis and in goods 18 cheeses of 4 pounds each, 3 of 10 pounds and 8 barrels(?) 
of butter.

There are many other names in this dissertation so if your lines lead you to 
the council of Velas in São Jorge you should search through the dissertation. 
You may even find the design an ancestor used for branding their livestock!

-Victor Soares

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal e Prospero Ano Novo (Merry Christmas/Happy New Year) Thread

[nancy jean baptiste]

Happy New Year to all of you! May it be filled with all things good!


Nancy Jean Baptista


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sandra 
Valine Dauer 
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 12:08:20 AM
To: themom8682 via Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal e Prospero Ano Novo (Merry 
Christmas/Happy New Year) Thread

Merry Christmas to you and your families and Happy researching 2017
Sandra Valine Dauer

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Cheri Mello 
> wrote:
Feliz Natal (Merry Christmas) and Prospero Ano Novo (Happy New Year)!

If you would like to send greetings to the list, use this thread ONLY. Just hit 
reply to this thread and respond. Do NOT start a new thread.

Please post your greetings by 11:59 pm YOUR TIME on Dec. 25th. If it's 12:01 
your time on Dec. 26th, you are too late.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: S?o Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION

[nancy jean baptiste]

2 1/2 months


Nancy Jean


From: 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 12:02:51 PM
To: Azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1900-1905/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1900-1905_item1/P119.html

I am looking for Manoel dos Santos son of Manoel Jacinto dos Santos and Albina 
da Conceicao

I don't think this is it - mother's name don't match

what is the age he died?

thank you

carmen









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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Nicknames

[nancy jean baptiste]

Hi Sandra,


I'm sorry...that was meant for someone elsemy brain was worn out!


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Sandra 
Perez <perezsandra...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 2:24:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Nicknames

Nancy,

Do you have the right Sandra?  I am Sandra Perez.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:50 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Sandra,


I've been looking in FTDNA at our match and although I didn't see your tree, I 
have figured out the line that we match on. In looking at old emails with you I 
noticed this info about your maternal grandmother, Carolina Alves 
Vieiraalcunha, Charola. While looking at the descendant list of the line we 
match on I came across the name Inacia Jesus Charola born May 3, 1883 in Lages. 
Is she connected to you?


Also is Elsie Valim on your maternal line? I have an x match with her and she 
must connect to my ggrandmother, Rosa Luisa Garcia via her mother, Ana Luisa 
Medeiros. All of Lages.


Kind regards,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Sandra 
Valine Dauer <acore...@gmail.com<mailto:acore...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 12:36:54 AM
To: azores
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Nicknames

My maternal grandmother, Carolina Alves Vieira, alcunha Charola.  I do not know 
if this is from her father or mother.  Lived Lajes do Pico, Pico island.

On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Cheri Mello 
<gfsche...@gmail.com<mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Anthony M,

Yes, search for the surname, the alcunha, with and without the de/da/do/d' 
stuff.


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Nicknames

[nancy jean baptiste]

Hi Sandra,


I've been looking in FTDNA at our match and although I didn't see your tree, I 
have figured out the line that we match on. In looking at old emails with you I 
noticed this info about your maternal grandmother, Carolina Alves 
Vieiraalcunha, Charola. While looking at the descendant list of the line we 
match on I came across the name Inacia Jesus Charola born May 3, 1883 in Lages. 
Is she connected to you?


Also is Elsie Valim on your maternal line? I have an x match with her and she 
must connect to my ggrandmother, Rosa Luisa Garcia via her mother, Ana Luisa 
Medeiros. All of Lages.


Kind regards,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sandra 
Valine Dauer 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 12:36:54 AM
To: azores
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Nicknames

My maternal grandmother, Carolina Alves Vieira, alcunha Charola.  I do not know 
if this is from her father or mother.  Lived Lajes do Pico, Pico island.

On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Cheri Mello 
> wrote:
Anthony M,

Yes, search for the surname, the alcunha, with and without the de/da/do/d' 
stuff.


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Haplogroup V (mtDNA)

[nancy jean baptiste]

Hi David,


I remember seeing a small % on my uncle John Cardoza Baptiste. His maternal 
line is from Pico and paternal from Sao Jorge. His Gedmatch # is T362726. His 
mother is U5a and his Y is E-M183.


My kit # is T 235110 and my sister's is T775558


My brother, Brad Baptiste is also tested at FTDNA however, I haven't uploaded 
him to Gedmatch yet.


Nancy Jean Baptista


Pico, Sao Jorge and Santa Maria


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of David 

Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 4:01:58 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Haplogroup V (mtDNA)

Would love to hear from anyone else whose direct maternal line runs through the 
Azores and whose mtDNA tests as haplogroup V.

>From what I am reading, V is spread out across Europe at low levels, except 
>for accounting for over 50% of the Sami people ("Lapps") and around 19% of the 
>Cantabrian people in Spain.  (If I recall correctly, Basques have a lower 
>percentage than Sami and Cantabrians, but still higher than average...)

And I've seen genetic studies of the Azores where the overall prevalence of V 
thrpughout the archipelago is similar to that around most of Europe -- but also 
one study that says that its prevalence in the Western group of the Azores is 
33% (which would apparently be the highest rate in the world other than among 
the Sami), and that it's the most heavily represented haplogroup in the Western 
group.

My earliest known ancestor in my direct maternal line lived on Flores, so she 
forms part of this pattern for V in the Western group.  I'm interested in 
trying to set up a database for Azoreans and Azorean-descendants who fall into 
V, to see if we can construct a tree back to one or more identifiable "mothers" 
of V who brought the haplogroup to the Azores and to whom (or to one of whom) 
all Azorean Vs can trace their direct maternal lines.



David da Silva Cornell
Miami, FL

Researching the following surnames and places:

Faial - Furtado, Terra, Furtado da Terra (unknown freguesia(s), but signs 
currently point to Pedro Miguel)

Flores - Freitas, Lourenço, Coelho (unknown freguesia(s))

Pico - Silveira Cardoso, Macedo, Machado, Pereira Madruga, Ferreira,
Cardoso, Cardoso Machado, Vieira, Bettencourt, Dutra, Castanho, Homem,
Goulart, Quaresma, Moniz, Barreto, Silveira, Pereira, Álvares (all Lajes do
Pico)

S. Jorge - Silva, Botelho, Azevedo, Cardoso (Urzelina); Silva, Azevedo,
Cardoso (Santo António in Norte Grande)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] John A Souza

[nancy jean baptiste]

No, I checked the email twiceit came back. I have 109 cM's with him.


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Cheri 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 4:44:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] John A Souza

Nancy Jean, you made a typo in his email addy. He's probably doing genealogy. 
Group admins can log into the admin page to see when that person last logged 
into their genealogy page. He has a recent log in time period.

Rosemarie, it's endogamy with an "e," which is better than saying we're a bunch 
of inbreds! LOL

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] John A Souza

[nancy jean baptiste]

I'm so confused right now! I hope John A Souza is still doing genealogy! He 
shows as a 2nd cousin to me in FTDNA, 3rd to both of my siblings, and 5th to my 
paternal uncle John..the problem is that he has a good tree that clearly 
shows we have 2 sets of common great grandparents and I'm confused but maybe 
even more.what his tree proves though is that my grandparents, Emanuel 
Joseph Perry and Clara Enos Veterino were cousinsmy mom's parents and she 
had no idea.my grandfather, descends from Antonio de Sousa Pereira and 
Isabel de Jesus Silveira bettencourt and my grandmother from Manuel Silveira de 
Lemos and Ana Bernarda da Silveirawhen I look at Johns tree these lines 
are so interwoven! BUT, how on earth does my dad's brother connectGedmatch 
says my parents are 6th cousinsthey had no idea..I can't even tell all 
the connections because my head is spinning so much!


Wait.too many cousins marryingmaybe my brain just doesn't work


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Rosemarie 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 2:59:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] John A Souza

Marilyn, I know that I match several of your kits. We have to connect 
somewhere! We should have had Cheri work with both of us while we were in SLC, 
I didn't even think of it!

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
<mari...@jmtmlt.com<mailto:mari...@jmtmlt.com>> wrote:
Rosemarie, Gilbert Machado is one of the kits that I manage. He is my mother's 
1st cousin. His dad and my grandfather were brothers.


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<rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Nancy, when I bring you up in FTdna and do an 'in common with' he doesn't show 
and you don't show with any of my matches! That is really weird. John A. also 
shows in common with Gilbert Machado and John Marks Souza and Jessie Lemos. 
Jessie I know is a connection thru my Grandfather's line on to his Mother. So, 
it looks like John A. is on my Mom's paternal line too.

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On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:37 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Greetings,


I'm looking for a DNA 2nd cousin at FTDNA...John A Souza. the email listed for 
him doesn't work. Does anyone know him or perhaps he's even reading this 
message.


Hopeful,

Nancy Jean Baptista

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[AZORES-Genealogy] John A Souza

[nancy jean baptiste]

Greetings,


I'm looking for a DNA 2nd cousin at FTDNA...John A Souza. the email listed for 
him doesn't work. Does anyone know him or perhaps he's even reading this 
message.


Hopeful,

Nancy Jean Baptista

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 2016 Salt Lake City Conference Group photo

[nancy jean baptiste]

Yes


NJB


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Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 8:08:11 AM
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We think spacing them 18 months apart is good. So we're looking at April 2018. 
NOT what Rosemarie typed. Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 2016 Salt Lake City Conference Group photo

[nancy jean baptiste]

Please March or April...April! Sept is impossible! I'd love to be there again!


Nancy Jean


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Santos 
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 4:49:02 AM
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I would love to attend too, but September is impossible - the beginning of the 
academic year at NYU. Any chance it could take place in October?

MaryAnn Santos

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
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Marie, hope you can make it next time!! We have been talking about when to go 
next time, Sep 2017 or Mar/Apr 2017. Don't really know when, the hotel has a 
lot of conferences at certain times so we have to really think about it.

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Seekgene via Azores Genealogy 
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Hey!  The picture is great!  Now we just need the names that go with the faces! 
 I wish I could have been there this year but am having knee surgery on 
Tuesday.  Maybe next year!  There's been lots of changes in my life this past 
year!  Hope all you guys have a blast and many wonderful discoveries made in 
your research!   AdeusMarie Pleasant


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Attached is the photo of most of the people attending the genealogy conference 
in Salt Lake (about 5 people missed the photo opportunity). We are having a 
great time and learning a lot!
Cheri Mello


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores

[nancy jean baptiste]

I have Andrade from Vila do Porto, Santa Maria.


Nancy Jean


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Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 3:55:10 PM
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I have seen Andrades in Santo Espirito area of Santa Maria

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Cheri Mello 
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Paul, No records exist for moving between islands. Many people from Santa Maria 
went to the closest island which was Sao Miguel.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 2016 Salt Lake City Conference Group photo

[nancy jean baptiste]

Oh!!! I wish I was there


Nancy Jean


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(Cross posted to the Azores and IslandRoutes lists. Can't post to Madeira due 
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Attached is the photo of most of the people attending the genealogy conference 
in Salt Lake (about 5 people missed the photo opportunity). We are having a 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cabral Santa Maria

[nancy jean baptiste]

I have Cabral from Santa Maria, Catarina Moreira Cabral, filha do  Jose Inacio 
Cabral, filho do Atonio Joaquim Cabral, filho do Antonio Cabral.


Nancy Jean Baptista


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Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 2:07:27 PM
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cabral Santa Maria

I have these:

Antonio Velho Louren?o Cabral x Isabel Luiz - m. 12 july 1601 - Assun??o

Francisco Cabral x Ana de Melo - m. 15 may 1702 - Assun??o

Francisco Cabral x Francisca Pereira - m. about 1660 - Santo Esp?rito

Manuel Soares x Francisca Cabral - m. about 1660 - Assun??o?


Manoel C?sar Furtado

Em segunda-feira, 29 de agosto de 2016 12:54:07 UTC-3, Lizmig escreveu:
Does anyone have any Cabrals from Santa Maria?

Liz

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portugal just won the European Soccer Championship

[nancy jean baptiste]

Great game!!! Patricio!


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Tish M 

Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 6:05:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portugal just won the European Soccer 
Championship

For?a!

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 2:42 PM, ?ngela Loura 
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Portugal also won the gold medal in triple jump, and also won the half-marathon!

2016-07-10 22:39 GMT+01:00 "E" Sharp 
>:
Please do not respond to this emailjust want to share the joyPortugal 
won the European Soccer Championship for the first time...beat France in final 
1-0 in France!!!.  Ronaldo injured in first 25 minutes and could not play after 
that.  GREAT GAME!!

"E"
A soccer nut

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 500 error

[nancy jean baptiste]

So gracious!


From: 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 4:25:51 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 500 error

My translation was very clear:
We thank you for your kind words which constitute an incentive for the project 
we are developing.  However, we regret to inform you that due to an anomaly in 
the server where the Cultura Açores is stored, we are unable to access a part 
of the contents.
In the meanwhile, the problem has been reported and measures have been taken to 
resolve the problem in as little time as possible.
We apologize for the inconvenience which this unforeseen circumstance may have 
caused your Excellency.
Believe us to be at your disposal


On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 4:57 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:


Oh NO!!  It's still giving the 500 Error.  Boo hoo.  I thought based on 
Richard and Denise's emails that it was working but not yet.  patience is 
trying not to show your "impatience".



Maria Elena

On Jul 5, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
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You said it, Maria Elena!! I remember those days very well. It's so good 
being able to access the records online in our own homes!


Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Maria Lima 
> wrote:
CHERI;

Thanks for the update; it helps to remain patient knowing they're aware of it 
and trying to fix it.  Beats ordering film; waiting for it to come to the 
family history center and then anticipating its arrival and driving down to the 
center filled with hope to find what you're looking for.  And then finding  the 
right lens to view the microfilm and then, MAYBE, going back home empty handed- 
or not.  Yep-  I love the CCA and TOMBO websites.  Thank you all.

Every now and then it's good to remember the good old days right?  Haha

Maria Elena

On Jul 5, 2016, at 2:26 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
> wrote:

xmo. Senhor Carlos Cardoso
Agradecemos a gentileza das suas palavras que constituem um incentivo para o 
projeto que desenvolvemos.
Lamentamos, porém, informar que devido a uma anomalia no servidor onde se 
encontra alojado o portal Cultura Açores, estamos impossibilitados do acesso a 
parte dos conteúdos.
No entanto, a situação já foi reportada e foram tomadas as medidas para 
solucionarmos o problema no mais breve espaço de tempo.
Pedimos desculpa pelo incómodo que este imprevisto possa ter causado a V. Exa.
Creia-nos ao dispor.

We thank you for your kind words which constitute an incentive for the project 
we are developing.  However, we regret to inform you that due to an anomaly in 
the server where the Cultura Açores is stored, we are unable to access a part 
of the contents.
In the meanwhile, the problem has been reported and measures have been taken to 
resolve the problem in as little time as possible.
We apologize for the inconvenience which this unforeseen circumstance may have 
caused your Excellency.
Believe us to be at your disposal


On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 2:51 PM, Cheri Mello 
> wrote:


That email says it was reported and now solved. That's the basics of that email.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Are Agada and Agueda the same name?

[nancy jean baptiste]

Marie,


My Agueda's were first names. I haven't seen it as a surname before. Possible 
your ancestor adopted a female ancestors name as a surname but I hd it maybe a 
more common surname than I realize.


Nancy Jean


From: 'Joao S. Lopes' via Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 9:37:26 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Are Agada and Agueda the same name?

Yes, Agada, Agueda and Aguida are the same name, equivalent of English Agatha, 
and all obsolete, current form in Portuguese is Agata (sometimes Agatha).


Em Ter?a-feira, 5 de Julho de 2016 11:35, Marie Borba Volbeda 
 escreveu:


Nancy Jean:

In 1922 my great aunt Marianna Borba married Jermano Silveira Agueda who was 
born 16 Apr 1887 in Topo, Sao Jorge.  I believe they were married in California 
as they both immigrated prior to this date .  I have his ancestry for several 
more generations back, perhaps you are related to his ancestors?

Marie

On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 7:08:51 AM UTC-7, Marie Borba Volbeda wrote:
I have seen these names as both a first and last name, and are sometimes 
spelled both ways for the same person in different records.  Are Agada and 
Agueda  different spellings of the American version of Agatha or is Agueda a 
different name entirely?

Thanks,

Marie Borba Volbeda

Researching:  Topo, Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge:  Borba, Silveira Carvalho,  Brasil
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Are Agada and Agueda the same name?

[nancy jean baptiste]

I have an Agueda born 1815 or so.


Nancy Jean


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Mello 
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 9:16:40 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Are Agada and Agueda the same name?


I believe that Agada is old spelling and Agueda is the modern spelling, but 
someone with a better command of the language would know better.
Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with documents for Manoel Marquez Pereira (1747? -1821)

[nancy jean baptiste]

Just reading this is making me wish I could be there this year! I'm 
disappointed but I'll be in Picomaybe next time!


Have fun!

Nancy Jean


From: 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 8:10:44 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with documents for Manoel Marquez Pereira 
(1747? -1821)

Cheri, you forgot about the spa.  It is a great place to sit in the sauna and 
just catch up with others in the group.

Sorry I can't make it this time.

Celeste

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


On Wed, 6/8/16, Cheri Mello  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with documents for Manoel Marquez Pereira 
(1747? -1821)
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2016, 12:37 PM

 The
 amount of noise we make down there on the International
 Floor when researching - I guess they are used to large
 groups (we sit away from the Information Desk so we
 don't drive them crazy). One evening, Nancy Jean
 commandeered the TV in the hotel lobby away from the guy
 watching the ball game - just so a bunch of us could watch
 Who Do You Think You Are.  Another time, Celeste (and
 probably me) rearranged the furniture in the hotel lobby
 just so we could all hang out together afterwards (we put it
 back). Sometimes, a few us hang out in the hotel library/TV
 room until midnight, still doing our thing. The guy in the
 gift shop is pretty accommodating too. They have a bit of
 coffee, snacks, and bananas, as well as the usual trinkets.
 We've gone over to JB's (the coffee shop attached to
 the hotel) with a large group too. All this on top of the
 classes and research assistance that you receive. We just
 like to have fun and try our hardest to make people
 successful.
 Cheri

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at
 12:10 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
 wrote:
 Eric, you would have a good
 time and learn a lot. It's just fun being with others
 that are doing the same as you. Not only do you have classes
 during the day but Cheri and I work with you (and others)
 one-on-one in the evenings. Hope you think about coming with
 us all!
 Rosemarie rcapodc@gmail.comResearching Sao
 Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico,
 Azores,Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia,
 Sicily

 On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at
 11:25 AM, Eric Souza 
 wrote:
 Thanks again for your help on this! I will look
 into the trip - sounds like an amazing
 experience!
 -
 Eric

 On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 8:31:24 AM UTC-7,
 Cheri Mello wrote:Yes, you have the date and
 most of the names.
 Groom's mother
 is Maria Simoes (it looks like a "Y") but it's
 a "es." Weird, but you'll get used to that
 script.

 At the bottom
 it says everyone is from that church, so you should be able
 to find the baptisms there. Further research will let you
 know where they pick up the Pereira and d'Oliveira from
 (I did see another Manuel Marques a few years before, so
 yours is trying to distinguish himself from the other
 one).

 We aim to get a
 group of researchers together about every 18 months or so
 and go to Salt Lake City. Our last trip was in April of
 2015. The upcoming trip is Tues., Sept. 6 - Fri, Sept. 9th.
 Yeah, you'd have to fly on Labor Day (in America).
 We've never done this in the fall, so we decided to try
 it. We have about 30 people coming so far. If you are
 interested, more information can be found here: goo.gl/GkxEV3 or  here: 
goo.gl/j3XpdL
 Cheri




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: N. S. De Lourdes Ilha do Pico

[nancy jean baptiste]

Criacao  Velhait's a village between Madalena and Candelaria Pico.


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Luciana 
Pio Raposo 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 1:16:34 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: N. S. De Lourdes Ilha do Pico

"C?pia fiel da imagem que se venera na Egreja (Igreja) da C. Velha da Ilha do 
Pico"-
True copy of the image worshipped at C. Velha , Pico Island `s Church.

Em segunda-feira, 23 de maio de 2016 19:28:50 UTC-3, j Bc escreveu:
Hello. This is an inscription on a card I found, and I am hoping that it may 
help me locate my ancestors on Pico.  Any help would be greatly appreciated in 
regards to making sence of the attached image.  There is more writig on the 
bacj starting with parce-se and it has a name mello but its in bad shape 
and Im still working on getting a decent scan of it to read it!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

[nancy jean baptiste]

I noticed my ancestor, Fernao Luis de Sousa listed under "Luis"named his 
son so I know it's the right one...perhaps I'll find him in other places as 
well. But that's my dad's line and the Norte Grande/Velas  folks are my mom's, 
da Sousa Pereira, Poderoso, Avila, Bettencourt, Vieira, Oliveira, de 
Lemos..oh, yes Machado!


Indeed, I feel blessed to spend so much time in Picocome visit some summer!



Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 11:21:45 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

Good Luck, Nancy! I envy you your time in Pico! Hope you can figure out the 
index, it's by first name but then, most indexes in the Azores ARE by first 
name!!


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 9:18 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks for the infowe have no FHC near me here in the boonies. I wish I 
could go to the Conference in SLC but I won't be back from Pico until mid Nov 
this year. This link you gave me though has promise for plenty of reading! I 
just need to figure out using it.


Kindest of Regards Prima!


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 10:22:50 AM

To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

No, Nancy, you have to order it. I was hoping that it would be digitized 
already but it's not. I have it here in my FHC and it may be in other places 
but I don't think it's in Arkansas!!  One of the good things about going to SLC 
it that all the films are at our fingertips, which helps sometimes. If I'm 
having a hard time reading something on the CCA I can always go to the film and 
sometimes it's easier to see that way!
I think that there is another Sao Jorge genealogy that they've taken of the 
site. The index looked different in the back, not like the one I told you 
about. Darn, I wish I knew the name of it!

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 8:04 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Rosemarie, is that film available on line?


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 9:33:38 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

That's great, Nancy Jean! I also scoured Family Search.org trying to find which 
Sao Jorge film had the other genealogy and it's #1330512, item #6. I can't 
remember much about it, it's been years since I've looked but you may find 
other info there!


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 6:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks Rosemarie,


I spent quite a bit of time scanning it for family names and indeed found 
several.also, now realize the de Sousa Pereira line has used that 
combination of names for quite a while! Today maybe I can figure out how to 
really use the index to find the families within the book.


Great info and I appreciate the link.


Have a great day!


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 12:50:35 AM

To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

Nancy Jean there is another book but for some reason it's not loading on my 
page. It's another on Sao Jorge but it's not the one showing. It may be the one 
on the microfilm though, it used to be on the page with the others but it 
wasn't today.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Re

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

[nancy jean baptiste]

Thanks for the infowe have no FHC near me here in the boonies. I wish I 
could go to the Conference in SLC but I won't be back from Pico until mid Nov 
this year. This link you gave me though has promise for plenty of reading! I 
just need to figure out using it.


Kindest of Regards Prima!


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 10:22:50 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

No, Nancy, you have to order it. I was hoping that it would be digitized 
already but it's not. I have it here in my FHC and it may be in other places 
but I don't think it's in Arkansas!!  One of the good things about going to SLC 
it that all the films are at our fingertips, which helps sometimes. If I'm 
having a hard time reading something on the CCA I can always go to the film and 
sometimes it's easier to see that way!
I think that there is another Sao Jorge genealogy that they've taken of the 
site. The index looked different in the back, not like the one I told you 
about. Darn, I wish I knew the name of it!

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 8:04 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Rosemarie, is that film available on line?


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 9:33:38 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

That's great, Nancy Jean! I also scoured Family Search.org trying to find which 
Sao Jorge film had the other genealogy and it's #1330512, item #6. I can't 
remember much about it, it's been years since I've looked but you may find 
other info there!


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 6:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks Rosemarie,


I spent quite a bit of time scanning it for family names and indeed found 
several.also, now realize the de Sousa Pereira line has used that 
combination of names for quite a while! Today maybe I can figure out how to 
really use the index to find the families within the book.


Great info and I appreciate the link.


Have a great day!


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 12:50:35 AM

To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

Nancy Jean there is another book but for some reason it's not loading on my 
page. It's another on Sao Jorge but it's not the one showing. It may be the one 
on the microfilm though, it used to be on the page with the others but it 
wasn't today.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
<rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Okay, here is the site: 
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/bd/pesquisa/default.aspx?cat=1
It's the one on the right by Mateus Machado Fagundes de Azevedo. There is an 
index in the back, so check there for the name. Let me know if you need any 
help. I think it's pretty straight forward though, it looks like a Pedigree 
Chart.




Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:12 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Thank you!


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:07:46 AM

To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

Sao Jorge!! My fingers are not yet awak

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

[nancy jean baptiste]

Rosemarie, is that film available on line?


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 9:33:38 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

That's great, Nancy Jean! I also scoured Family Search.org trying to find which 
Sao Jorge film had the other genealogy and it's #1330512, item #6. I can't 
remember much about it, it's been years since I've looked but you may find 
other info there!


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 6:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks Rosemarie,


I spent quite a bit of time scanning it for family names and indeed found 
several.also, now realize the de Sousa Pereira line has used that 
combination of names for quite a while! Today maybe I can figure out how to 
really use the index to find the families within the book.


Great info and I appreciate the link.


Have a great day!


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 12:50:35 AM

To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

Nancy Jean there is another book but for some reason it's not loading on my 
page. It's another on Sao Jorge but it's not the one showing. It may be the one 
on the microfilm though, it used to be on the page with the others but it 
wasn't today.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
<rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Okay, here is the site: 
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/bd/pesquisa/default.aspx?cat=1
It's the one on the right by Mateus Machado Fagundes de Azevedo. There is an 
index in the back, so check there for the name. Let me know if you need any 
help. I think it's pretty straight forward though, it looks like a Pedigree 
Chart.




Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:12 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Thank you!


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:07:46 AM

To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

Sao Jorge!! My fingers are not yet awake!! LOL


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
<rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Just FYI, the Sao Joao manuscript is also on one of the microfilms that SLC has 
of our Azorean records. It's on one of the Sao Jorge ones. If you have the 
microfilm at your local FHC, you can look at it that way too. I've written to 
Cheri and she will send me the shortcut when she gets home from tutoring. I am 
going to work at my volunteer job @9am until 3:30 or so. I will email you after 
that sometime.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
<rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Nancy Jean, I don't connect as far as I know. The trouble is you get to the 
end of the line in Norte Grande and you can'tconnect because the records are 
just missing! So frustrating! As to where I saw his name, I think it's in the 
unpublished manuscripts section of the CCA. I'll have to ask Cheri for the 
shortcut she made to the site because I can never get there by myself! I think 
it's under Biblioteca Digital. I'll email Cheri. Anyway, there are about 5 
unpublished manuscripts written in the 17 & 1800's by priests when there were 
still record books to use and maybe oral histories. Two for Sao Jorge, a couple 
for Terceira and on

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

[nancy jean baptiste]

Thanks Rosemarie,


I spent quite a bit of time scanning it for family names and indeed found 
several.also, now realize the de Sousa Pereira line has used that 
combination of names for quite a while! Today maybe I can figure out how to 
really use the index to find the families within the book.


Great info and I appreciate the link.


Have a great day!


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 12:50:35 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

Nancy Jean there is another book but for some reason it's not loading on my 
page. It's another on Sao Jorge but it's not the one showing. It may be the one 
on the microfilm though, it used to be on the page with the others but it 
wasn't today.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
<rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Okay, here is the site: 
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/bd/pesquisa/default.aspx?cat=1
It's the one on the right by Mateus Machado Fagundes de Azevedo. There is an 
index in the back, so check there for the name. Let me know if you need any 
help. I think it's pretty straight forward though, it looks like a Pedigree 
Chart.




Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:12 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Thank you!


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:07:46 AM

To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

Sao Jorge!! My fingers are not yet awake!! LOL


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
<rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Just FYI, the Sao Joao manuscript is also on one of the microfilms that SLC has 
of our Azorean records. It's on one of the Sao Jorge ones. If you have the 
microfilm at your local FHC, you can look at it that way too. I've written to 
Cheri and she will send me the shortcut when she gets home from tutoring. I am 
going to work at my volunteer job @9am until 3:30 or so. I will email you after 
that sometime.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
<rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Nancy Jean, I don't connect as far as I know. The trouble is you get to the 
end of the line in Norte Grande and you can'tconnect because the records are 
just missing! So frustrating! As to where I saw his name, I think it's in the 
unpublished manuscripts section of the CCA. I'll have to ask Cheri for the 
shortcut she made to the site because I can never get there by myself! I think 
it's under Biblioteca Digital. I'll email Cheri. Anyway, there are about 5 
unpublished manuscripts written in the 17 & 1800's by priests when there were 
still record books to use and maybe oral histories. Two for Sao Jorge, a couple 
for Terceira and one for Graciosa.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:55 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Rosemarie,


I'd love to see the "Alferes" of Sao Jorge infowhere did you see him 
listed? Do you connect with these Norte Grande people...we know we're 
cousins...maybe tis is the family!


Have a great day,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 12:43:02 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

I'm really not sure, Nancy Jean, but that w

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

[nancy jean baptiste]

Thank you Cheri!


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Cheri 
Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 1:51:04 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

Is this it? (for the unpublished manuscripts)
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/bd/pesquisa/default.aspx?cat=1

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:12 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Thank you!


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:07:46 AM

To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

Sao Jorge!! My fingers are not yet awake!! LOL


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
<rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Just FYI, the Sao Joao manuscript is also on one of the microfilms that SLC has 
of our Azorean records. It's on one of the Sao Jorge ones. If you have the 
microfilm at your local FHC, you can look at it that way too. I've written to 
Cheri and she will send me the shortcut when she gets home from tutoring. I am 
going to work at my volunteer job @9am until 3:30 or so. I will email you after 
that sometime.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
<rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Nancy Jean, I don't connect as far as I know. The trouble is you get to the 
end of the line in Norte Grande and you can'tconnect because the records are 
just missing! So frustrating! As to where I saw his name, I think it's in the 
unpublished manuscripts section of the CCA. I'll have to ask Cheri for the 
shortcut she made to the site because I can never get there by myself! I think 
it's under Biblioteca Digital. I'll email Cheri. Anyway, there are about 5 
unpublished manuscripts written in the 17 & 1800's by priests when there were 
still record books to use and maybe oral histories. Two for Sao Jorge, a couple 
for Terceira and one for Graciosa.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:55 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Rosemarie,


I'd love to see the "Alferes" of Sao Jorge infowhere did you see him 
listed? Do you connect with these Norte Grande people...we know we're 
cousins...maybe tis is the family!


Have a great day,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 12:43:02 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

I'm really not sure, Nancy Jean, but that was my first thought when I first 
looked at it. There is an Alferes by that name but can't remember the wife's 
name. Maybe I saw it in the unpublished manuscript for Sao Jorge?

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 7:21 PM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Rosemarie, that's exactly what I was thinking! Thank you Prima!




From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:40:44 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

I was thinking maybe Alferes??

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sic

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

[nancy jean baptiste]

Thank you!


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:07:46 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

Sao Jorge!! My fingers are not yet awake!! LOL


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
<rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Just FYI, the Sao Joao manuscript is also on one of the microfilms that SLC has 
of our Azorean records. It's on one of the Sao Jorge ones. If you have the 
microfilm at your local FHC, you can look at it that way too. I've written to 
Cheri and she will send me the shortcut when she gets home from tutoring. I am 
going to work at my volunteer job @9am until 3:30 or so. I will email you after 
that sometime.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
<rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Nancy Jean, I don't connect as far as I know. The trouble is you get to the 
end of the line in Norte Grande and you can'tconnect because the records are 
just missing! So frustrating! As to where I saw his name, I think it's in the 
unpublished manuscripts section of the CCA. I'll have to ask Cheri for the 
shortcut she made to the site because I can never get there by myself! I think 
it's under Biblioteca Digital. I'll email Cheri. Anyway, there are about 5 
unpublished manuscripts written in the 17 & 1800's by priests when there were 
still record books to use and maybe oral histories. Two for Sao Jorge, a couple 
for Terceira and one for Graciosa.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:55 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Rosemarie,


I'd love to see the "Alferes" of Sao Jorge infowhere did you see him 
listed? Do you connect with these Norte Grande people...we know we're 
cousins...maybe tis is the family!


Have a great day,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 12:43:02 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

I'm really not sure, Nancy Jean, but that was my first thought when I first 
looked at it. There is an Alferes by that name but can't remember the wife's 
name. Maybe I saw it in the unpublished manuscript for Sao Jorge?

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 7:21 PM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Rosemarie, that's exactly what I was thinking! Thank you Prima!




From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:40:44 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

I was thinking maybe Alferes??

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 5:03 PM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Yes Cheri, you never know what you might findany ideas about that word?


Thanks,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Cheri 
Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com<mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 6:56:57 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?


Well, if the son-in-law was good for his daughter, then the sister would be 
good for him? I had a widowed man marry his widowed mother-in-la

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

[nancy jean baptiste]

Hi Rosemarie,


I'd love to see the "Alferes" of Sao Jorge infowhere did you see him 
listed? Do you connect with these Norte Grande people...we know we're 
cousins...maybe tis is the family!


Have a great day,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 12:43:02 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

I'm really not sure, Nancy Jean, but that was my first thought when I first 
looked at it. There is an Alferes by that name but can't remember the wife's 
name. Maybe I saw it in the unpublished manuscript for Sao Jorge?

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 7:21 PM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Rosemarie, that's exactly what I was thinking! Thank you Prima!




From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:40:44 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

I was thinking maybe Alferes??

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 5:03 PM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Yes Cheri, you never know what you might findany ideas about that word?


Thanks,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Cheri 
Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com<mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 6:56:57 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?


Well, if the son-in-law was good for his daughter, then the sister would be 
good for him? I had a widowed man marry his widowed mother-in-law. His wife 
died in childbirth. He needed someone to help with the kids, so he married 
their grandmother!
Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

[nancy jean baptiste]

Rosemarie, that's exactly what I was thinking! Thank you Prima!




From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:40:44 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

I was thinking maybe Alferes??

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 5:03 PM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Yes Cheri, you never know what you might findany ideas about that word?


Thanks,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Cheri 
Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com<mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 6:56:57 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?


Well, if the son-in-law was good for his daughter, then the sister would be 
good for him? I had a widowed man marry his widowed mother-in-law. His wife 
died in childbirth. He needed someone to help with the kids, so he married 
their grandmother!
Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

[nancy jean baptiste]

Yes Cheri, you never know what you might findany ideas about that word?


Thanks,

Nancy Jean


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Mello 
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 6:56:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?


Well, if the son-in-law was good for his daughter, then the sister would be 
good for him? I had a widowed man marry his widowed mother-in-law. His wife 
died in childbirth. He needed someone to help with the kids, so he married 
their grandmother!
Cheri

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

[nancy jean baptiste]

I need some help with one wordin the 2nd record...the marriage of Joao 
Ignacio da Sousa...there's what appears to be a word/name/  in front of his 
father's name.

? Joao da Sousa Machadoany clues?


Thank you for any ideas,

Nancy Jean


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Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 5:02:41 PM
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Subject: Re: Is this the same man?


Thank you so much! I just wasn't sure of what I was seeing! I sure wish they 
put the ages in the records during this time. Between the name changes and the 
marriages within families it's very difficult to know who's who! I still have 
no idea why Antonio Abreu/ spelled Habreu on his marriage, would take part of 
his wife's father's name, de Quadros. Why not his full name of de Quadros 
Pereira? Yikes!


I've never seen a record where a man married his son-in-laws sister!


Also, thank you for posting the links and the suggestion to look for Maria 
Bernarda's obit. This is my direct maternal line and Maria Bernarda's records 
are very illusive. I'd love to be able to trace her line back further.my Mt 
full sequence is H3b with 5 extra mutations and within the Iberian Ashkenazi Mt 
DNA Project at FTDNA our H3b is flagged as "likely Sephardic"and I have no 
close matches at allonly 1 and she's a genetic distance of 3no clues 
there.


Best regards,

Nancy Jean


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Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 4:16:42 PM
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Subject: Re: Is this the same man?

Here is what I think I see, along with links to the records:


27 Nov 1794, Velas

Joao Jose da Silveira, son of Antonio Alvares de Quadros and Joanna Maria, 
native and parishioner of Velas

Anna Bernarda Poderoza, daughter of Joao Ignacio da Souza and Maria Bernarda 
Poderoza, native of Norte Grande and parishioner of Velas

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-C-1788-1806/SJR-VL-VELAS-C-1788-1806_item1/P37.html



Month? Day? 1797 (presumably between 17 Sep and 5 Nov 1797), Velas

Joao Ignacio de Souza?, son of Joao de Souza? Machado and Tereza? Maria de 
Jesus, widower of Maria Bernarda Poderoza, native of Velas and parishioner of 
Norte Grande.

Joanna? Maciel Alvares, daughter of Antonio Alvares de Quadros and Joanna Maria 
da Silveira, native and parishioner of Velas

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-C-1788-1806/SJR-VL-VELAS-C-1788-1806_item1/P54.html

It appears to me that the father of the bride in the first marriage is the same 
as the groom in the second marriage.  Since Anna Bernarda's marriage does list 
her mother as defuncta (deceased), perhaps she died between 1794 and 1797 
(possibly in Norte Grande).

It also appears to me that the parents of the groom in the first marriage are 
the same as the parents of the bride in the second marriage.  If so, then you 
are correct that he married his son-in-law's sister.



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Is this the same man?

[nancy jean baptiste]

Greetings,


I'm very confusedVelas marriages1788-18062 records.pg's 37 and 
54..I'm looking for my 6x greats.Joao Ignacio de Sousa and maria 
Bernarda Poderosa...I know she's from Norte Grande...


Pg 37, bottom left, appears to be the marriage of their daughter, Ana Bernarda 
to Joao Jose da Silveira...son of Antonio Alvernaz de Quadros...is the Alvernaz 
correct? Antonio was born on Faial the son of Domingos de Abreu and Luisa 
Goulart...when he moved to Sao Jorge and married he dropped the Abreu and 
changed his name to his wife's, Joanna Maria, father's name of de 
Quadros...this however, is the first time I've seen him use the Alvernazis 
it correct and can anyone glean any info I'm missing? I don't see ages...


Page 54 confuses me moreleft side bottomJoao Ignacio de Sousa 
Machado...he appears to be the widower of Maria Bernarda Poderosa and is 
marrying a sister of his son in law Help please...


Thank you,

Nancy Jean

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FTDNA's DNA Day Sale (Through Tuesday, April 26, 11:59 pm CDT)

[nancy jean baptiste]

They worked out their issues and all's working smoothly again!


Nancy Jean



From: 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 12:50 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FTDNA's DNA Day Sale (Through Tuesday, 
April 26, 11:59 pm CDT)

I've heard that GEDMATCH is not taking any more from FTDNA?

Susan Vargas Murphy

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On Apr 25, 2016, at 6:54 PM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:


Well, for me it would be an easy answer...FTDNA and then upload results to 
Gedmatch.com<http://gedmatch.com>they have great tools for origin 
exploration!


Nancy Jean



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<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of "E" 
Sharp <bellema...@gmail.com<mailto:bellema...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 11:51 AM
To: azores
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FTDNA's DNA Day Sale (Through Tuesday, 
April 26, 11:59 pm CDT)

Thank you, Nancy Jean.  I am still torn if I should order FTDNA or Ancestry as 
my spouse wants a Pie Chart of his ethnicity and I am told FTDNA is a bar 
chart..He is still trying to find out if he has American Indian in his 
family or if it was just an old wives tale/?

"E"

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:41 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi E,

Not usually. However, when I recently upgraded to full sequence they asked me 
to provided a new swab. Mine was old...2007..and I guess some tests take more 
sample than others.

Best regards,
Nancy Jean


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<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of E. Sharp 
<bellema...@gmail.com<mailto:bellema...@gmail.com>>
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To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FTDNA's DNA Day Sale (Through Tuesday, 
April 26, 11:59 pm CDT)

Refresh my memory...if one has already taken one test do they have to do the 
swab again?

"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FTDNA's DNA Day Sale (Through Tuesday, April 26, 11:59 pm CDT)

[nancy jean baptiste]

Well, for me it would be an easy answer...FTDNA and then upload results to 
Gedmatch.comthey have great tools for origin exploration!


Nancy Jean



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Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 11:51 AM
To: azores
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FTDNA's DNA Day Sale (Through Tuesday, 
April 26, 11:59 pm CDT)

Thank you, Nancy Jean.  I am still torn if I should order FTDNA or Ancestry as 
my spouse wants a Pie Chart of his ethnicity and I am told FTDNA is a bar 
chart..He is still trying to find out if he has American Indian in his 
family or if it was just an old wives tale/?

"E"

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:41 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi E,

Not usually. However, when I recently upgraded to full sequence they asked me 
to provided a new swab. Mine was old...2007..and I guess some tests take more 
sample than others.

Best regards,
Nancy Jean


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<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of E. Sharp 
<bellema...@gmail.com<mailto:bellema...@gmail.com>>
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To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FTDNA's DNA Day Sale (Through Tuesday, 
April 26, 11:59 pm CDT)

Refresh my memory...if one has already taken one test do they have to do the 
swab again?

"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FTDNA's DNA Day Sale (Through Tuesday, April 26, 11:59 pm CDT)

[nancy jean baptiste]

Hi E,

Not usually. However, when I recently upgraded to full sequence they asked me 
to provided a new swab. Mine was old...2007..and I guess some tests take more 
sample than others.

Best regards,
Nancy Jean


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To: azores@googlegroups.com
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April 26, 11:59 pm CDT)

Refresh my memory...if one has already taken one test do they have to do the 
swab again?

"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: What happened with this marriage

[nancy jean baptiste]

Hi Suzanne,


I couldn't really understand your record and wonder what the translation said.


Thanks,

Nancy Jean



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Edvalson 
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 2:23 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: What happened with this marriage

Thank you very much.  I have found a few like that now. It's good to know.

On Thursday, April 14, 2016 at 9:58:19 AM UTC-7, Suzanne Edvalson wrote:
Hello everyone.  Can someone please read this marriage record and tell me 
basically what happened.   Bottom right (Manoel Machado de Sousa and Ludovina)  
  and continues onto the next page.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1860-1869_item1/P86.html

and the top left

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1860-1869_item1/P87.html

I see that the actual marriage took place after the priest finishes up after 
that continued paragraph.

Thanks.
Suzanne

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Does this baptismal record say Florencia as the name? Top Right

[nancy jean baptiste]

It looks like Florencia.


Nancy Jean



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Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 9:41 AM
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Does this baptismal record say Florencia as the 
name? Top Right

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1728-1740/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1728-1740_item1/P42.html


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name help please. Ribeiras, Pico

[nancy jean baptiste]

Greetings,


I may have located the baptism record for my 3x grandmother in Pico. I'm 
searching for Maria Silveira, born in Ribeiras around 1782 based on her obit. 
This one works and I'm wondering if someone could tell me the name of the 
padrinho's, Manuel Sylveira's,  parentsis it Anselmo? Ancleto? and Maria 
Sylveira?


CCA

Ribeiras, Pico

Baptisms

1779-1799

pg. 0022

Bottom right:Maria


Thank you for any insight,

Nancy Jean

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Beautiful Reunion Story

[nancy jean baptiste]

Thank you Laura for such a heartwarming welcome to my morning..I too 
cried.what a wondrous story! I certainly wish I had your organizational 
skills!

Happy hunting in your continued searchnow you know the real possibilities 
exist.

Nancy Jean


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Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 4:49 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Beautiful Reunion Story

Laura that's a great story. God works through people and often in mysterious 
ways. You mentioned your mom is French Canadian. I don't know much about this 
DNA stuff,  only the basics I guess, but my wife is French Canadian and she's 
had a Family Finder DNA test done. I have done some research on her lines and 
so has one of her family members.  Send me an email if you want me to check 
anything that might be helpful.
Best wishes, Herb

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