RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car
Robert, 96 Trans-am, hmmm... Street racer or hotrod power tour builder? Could be fun... GM crate 502, race built 4 le-60 trans, upgrade the existing disk brakes and suspension? You never know bro that could be a wild child. You might try checking out Motors manuals, Chilton's manuals or Mitchell manuals on the internet. These guys are all shop manuals and are available on CD. Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert J. Moore Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:55 PM To: Blind Handyman Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car My Wife and I are going to be picking up a 1996 Grand Am Is there some where on line that I could get the manual to down load? If not that, does any one know if it would be available to get the owners manual on a CD so that I could read it on my computer? I don't really care what form it takes, I am just looking for any way that I can access the owners manual my self without having some one like my Wife read it to me. Personally I would find reading the manual not only informative but it would be interesting. Evie on the other hand would find it most boring and tedious. Robert To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach Infowest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 80504529) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80504529m=43c30 4d9c211c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80504529m=43c30 4d9c211c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80504529m=43c30 4d9c211c=f -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car
Calm down Larry! It's a Grand Am, not a Trans Am. You know, front wheel drive etc. Richard Justice www.blind-computing.com - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:48 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car Robert, 96 Trans-am, hmmm... Street racer or hotrod power tour builder? Could be fun... GM crate 502, race built 4 le-60 trans, upgrade the existing disk brakes and suspension? You never know bro that could be a wild child. You might try checking out Motors manuals, Chilton's manuals or Mitchell manuals on the internet. These guys are all shop manuals and are available on CD. Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert J. Moore Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:55 PM To: Blind Handyman Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car My Wife and I are going to be picking up a 1996 Grand Am Is there some where on line that I could get the manual to down load? If not that, does any one know if it would be available to get the owners manual on a CD so that I could read it on my computer? I don't really care what form it takes, I am just looking for any way that I can access the owners manual my self without having some one like my Wife read it to me. Personally I would find reading the manual not only informative but it would be interesting. Evie on the other hand would find it most boring and tedious. Robert To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach Infowest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 80504529) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80504529m=43c30 4d9c211c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80504529m=43c30 4d9c211c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80504529m=43c30 4d9c211c=f -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car
DAMN, RATS, SHUCKS... That all aluminum b-6 is a royal pain to service. You need a road map to find the back three spark-plugs on that puppy. Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricque Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:44 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car Calm down Larry! It's a Grand Am, not a Trans Am. You know, front wheel drive etc. Richard Justice www.blind-computing.com - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:48 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car Robert, 96 Trans-am, hmmm... Street racer or hotrod power tour builder? Could be fun... GM crate 502, race built 4 le-60 trans, upgrade the existing disk brakes and suspension? You never know bro that could be a wild child. You might try checking out Motors manuals, Chilton's manuals or Mitchell manuals on the internet. These guys are all shop manuals and are available on CD. Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert J. Moore Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:55 PM To: Blind Handyman Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car My Wife and I are going to be picking up a 1996 Grand Am Is there some where on line that I could get the manual to down load? If not that, does any one know if it would be available to get the owners manual on a CD so that I could read it on my computer? I don't really care what form it takes, I am just looking for any way that I can access the owners manual my self without having some one like my Wife read it to me. Personally I would find reading the manual not only informative but it would be interesting. Evie on the other hand would find it most boring and tedious. Robert To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach Infowest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 80575838) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80575838m=3647d 507fb1fc=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80575838m=3647d 507fb1fc=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80575838m=3647d 507fb1fc=f -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) *
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car
Yeah, been there, done that! Easier to get to the distributor on the 4 cylinder! Richard Justice www.blind-computing.com - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:29 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car DAMN, RATS, SHUCKS... That all aluminum b-6 is a royal pain to service. You need a road map to find the back three spark-plugs on that puppy. Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricque Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:44 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car Calm down Larry! It's a Grand Am, not a Trans Am. You know, front wheel drive etc. Richard Justice www.blind-computing.com - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:48 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car Robert, 96 Trans-am, hmmm... Street racer or hotrod power tour builder? Could be fun... GM crate 502, race built 4 le-60 trans, upgrade the existing disk brakes and suspension? You never know bro that could be a wild child. You might try checking out Motors manuals, Chilton's manuals or Mitchell manuals on the internet. These guys are all shop manuals and are available on CD. Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert J. Moore Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:55 PM To: Blind Handyman Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car My Wife and I are going to be picking up a 1996 Grand Am Is there some where on line that I could get the manual to down load? If not that, does any one know if it would be available to get the owners manual on a CD so that I could read it on my computer? I don't really care what form it takes, I am just looking for any way that I can access the owners manual my self without having some one like my Wife read it to me. Personally I would find reading the manual not only informative but it would be interesting. Evie on the other hand would find it most boring and tedious. Robert To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach Infowest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 80575838) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80575838m=3647d 507fb1fc=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80575838m=3647d 507fb1fc=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80575838m=3647d 507fb1fc=f -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions.
Dale, that was a thorough and well written response on biscuit joiners. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Max, it wasn't a router he was using although there are router bits for cutting biscuit slots, he was using a specific tool called a biscuit joiner or also called a plate joiner. You purchase the biscuits which are actually elongated ovals made of dry and compressed beach wood. They swell when glue is applied. They come in about four sizes. The biscuit does fit or should fit pretty well half way into the slot on one side how ever it might have looked to you. As for strength, dowels and biscuits are not primarily for strengthening although they do that. The primary function is to align the joint in most applications. Dowels suffer from the direction of the grain which is usually across the grain of the mating surfaces and glue more firmly attaches in the long direction of the grain. The other main disadvantage of dowels is that accuracy is absolutely critical, not only must the holes align absolutely directly but they must be absolutely in line. Biscuit joinery allows for a little error. The plate joiner has a carbide tipped blade which is on a spring loaded travel. There is a fence, these vary from machine to machine but you can set the fence a particular distance from the slot through which the blade will protrude and will be parallel to the slot. Most will allow the fence to be tilted in both directions to allow you to cut slots in mitered assemblies and other angled fixation of differing angles. You can index off the fence or index off the bottom flat surface of the joiner. You then set the fence on the face of a board and bring the face with the slot tight against the edge of the board holding it there using a handle built for that purpose then turn on the machine and using the other hand you force the cutter through the slot and into the edge against the springs which plunges the blade into the edge of the board. Release so it runs back out with the spring assist then release the trigger so it shuts off. When I built my work bench I made up a frame rather like the shape of angle iron using three quarters plywood one edge to the face of the other and joined those with biscuits. I then mitered the corners and joined them with biscuits and clamped them up square. I might have used screws but I never would have got the corners strong that way and doweling the edges of plywood isn't all that satisfactory or probably reliable. when the biscuits get wet with glue not only does the glue bond but they swell and actually if you don't work fairly quickly they can be very difficult to set. This can be a disat\dvantage, Norm has mentioned on a couple of shows that biscuits set too close to the surface can cause slight dimpling to telegraph through the surface as the glue ages and I suppose the wood responds to changes in environmental moisture. On a very smooth finish this can be visible. So far I haven't noticed this. There is a new unit out there, called a domino joiner I believe, cuts a more rectangular hole and uses rectangular biscuits and an oscilating cutting action. These work more like floating mortise tennon joints. I am not otherwise sure of the advantages, if they index easily enough I suppose you could use them to join rails styles without cutting proper mortise tenon joints. The biscuit joiners are plenty expensive but these domino joiners are really a lot more costly. Generally the correct term is Jointer. The machine is also sometimes called a planer but more usually that refers to a device for thicknessing the face of wood or for the hand held planers more usually with a 3 inch wide cutter head intended primarily for removing stock like the edge of a door. Joiner is sometimes used to refer to a jointer and I hear it more commonly used these days but the manufacturers still seem to refer to them as jointers. Hope this helps clear things up for you. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: Max Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Blind Handyman blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:36 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. I have watched only one episode of the Yankee workshop and already I have questions. He did a bisket joint. They didn't show him making the bisket. Do you buy them pre made? It was elliptical in shape which seems hard to make. He made the cutout with a plunge router which looked like he was making a basically rectangular shaped cutout. When he dropped the bisket into the cutout it didn't fit at
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions.
Thanks Larry, I only hope I didn't leave anything significant out. I was surprised to read in one of the magazines you sent along a use of the biscuit joiner to cut grooves by sliding the unit along while running. It never crossed my mind to do so but it is a quick and should be accurate way of cutting for splines and probably even the grooves to receive drawer bottoms and other applications. Mine is a porter cable which I have had for four or five years now, it includes a small cutter for #0 biscuits which I have used for mitering frames corners. It means changing the cutter blade but pretty cool. I read another article or rather you did but the builder used it to assemble drawer boxes. quick and strong if not classic joinery. For a lot of applications though this is exactly the answer, strong, accurate and fast. Any time that list members feel I may be over stepping they should feel free to say so. I often put quite a bit of effort into writing what I think is a clear explanation or description of things I have done or have observed and I do so because I am grateful for others who have taken the trouble to inform me. It is difficult for most of us blind people to learn from observation and sometimes it is just a very simple concept or understanding which, if missed can become a block to building more learning or understanding. This is not unique to the blind but we have fewer opportunities. I just hope to speed the process for others as others have for me. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Dale, that was a thorough and well written response on biscuit joiners. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Max, it wasn't a router he was using although there are router bits for cutting biscuit slots, he was using a specific tool called a biscuit joiner or also called a plate joiner. You purchase the biscuits which are actually elongated ovals made of dry and compressed beach wood. They swell when glue is applied. They come in about four sizes. The biscuit does fit or should fit pretty well half way into the slot on one side how ever it might have looked to you. As for strength, dowels and biscuits are not primarily for strengthening although they do that. The primary function is to align the joint in most applications. Dowels suffer from the direction of the grain which is usually across the grain of the mating surfaces and glue more firmly attaches in the long direction of the grain. The other main disadvantage of dowels is that accuracy is absolutely critical, not only must the holes align absolutely directly but they must be absolutely in line. Biscuit joinery allows for a little error. The plate joiner has a carbide tipped blade which is on a spring loaded travel. There is a fence, these vary from machine to machine but you can set the fence a particular distance from the slot through which the blade will protrude and will be parallel to the slot. Most will allow the fence to be tilted in both directions to allow you to cut slots in mitered assemblies and other angled fixation of differing angles. You can index off the fence or index off the bottom flat surface of the joiner. You then set the fence on the face of a board and bring the face with the slot tight against the edge of the board holding it there using a handle built for that purpose then turn on the machine and using the other hand you force the cutter through the slot and into the edge against the springs which plunges the blade into the edge of the board. Release so it runs back out with the spring assist then release the trigger so it shuts off. When I built my work bench I made up a frame rather like the shape of angle iron using three quarters plywood one edge to the face of the other and joined those with biscuits. I then mitered the corners and joined them with biscuits and clamped them up square. I might have used screws but I never would have got the corners strong that way and doweling the edges of plywood isn't all that satisfactory or probably reliable. when the biscuits get wet with glue not only does the glue bond but they swell and actually if you don't work fairly quickly they can be very difficult to set. This can be a disat\dvantage, Norm has mentioned on a couple of shows that biscuits set too close to the surface can cause slight dimpling to telegraph through the surface as the glue ages and I suppose the wood responds to changes in environmental moisture. On a very smooth finish
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions.
Early on in this project I was trying to describe the operation of the turning motion of a whirligig to a blind woodworker but was not able to get my point across. After about five or six explanations, he finally reacted something to the effect of how simple it was--why didn't I say so! That made me realize how much information sighted people gain instantly from a mere glance at something. I now try to take my time and first try to re-create a picture of what I'm trying to describe so that the blind woodworker gets the chance to visualize in his mind just what I'm trying to describe. This is especially critical with things like jigs which usually have no relationship to the more common objects we run across in life. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Larry, I only hope I didn't leave anything significant out. I was surprised to read in one of the magazines you sent along a use of the biscuit joiner to cut grooves by sliding the unit along while running. It never crossed my mind to do so but it is a quick and should be accurate way of cutting for splines and probably even the grooves to receive drawer bottoms and other applications. Mine is a porter cable which I have had for four or five years now, it includes a small cutter for #0 biscuits which I have used for mitering frames corners. It means changing the cutter blade but pretty cool. I read another article or rather you did but the builder used it to assemble drawer boxes. quick and strong if not classic joinery. For a lot of applications though this is exactly the answer, strong, accurate and fast. Any time that list members feel I may be over stepping they should feel free to say so. I often put quite a bit of effort into writing what I think is a clear explanation or description of things I have done or have observed and I do so because I am grateful for others who have taken the trouble to inform me. It is difficult for most of us blind people to learn from observation and sometimes it is just a very simple concept or understanding which, if missed can become a block to building more learning or understanding. This is not unique to the blind but we have fewer opportunities. I just hope to speed the process for others as others have for me. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Dale, that was a thorough and well written response on biscuit joiners. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Max, it wasn't a router he was using although there are router bits for cutting biscuit slots, he was using a specific tool called a biscuit joiner or also called a plate joiner. You purchase the biscuits which are actually elongated ovals made of dry and compressed beach wood. They swell when glue is applied. They come in about four sizes. The biscuit does fit or should fit pretty well half way into the slot on one side how ever it might have looked to you. As for strength, dowels and biscuits are not primarily for strengthening although they do that. The primary function is to align the joint in most applications. Dowels suffer from the direction of the grain which is usually across the grain of the mating surfaces and glue more firmly attaches in the long direction of the grain. The other main disadvantage of dowels is that accuracy is absolutely critical, not only must the holes align absolutely directly but they must be absolutely in line. Biscuit joinery allows for a little error. The plate joiner has a carbide tipped blade which is on a spring loaded travel. There is a fence, these vary from machine to machine but you can set the fence a particular distance from the slot through which the blade will protrude and will be parallel to the slot. Most will allow the fence to be tilted in both directions to allow you to cut slots in mitered assemblies and other angled fixation of differing angles. You can index off the fence or index off the bottom flat surface of the joiner. You then set the fence on the face of a board and bring the face with the slot tight against the edge of the board holding it there using a handle built for that purpose then turn on the machine and using the other hand you force the cutter through the slot and into the edge against the springs which plunges the blade into
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions.
p.s. using a biscuit joiner to cut a running groove in a workpiece never crossed my mind either and strikes me as both difficult and dangerous. Keeping the workpiece tightly clamped down would seem to be a significant problem. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Larry, I only hope I didn't leave anything significant out. I was surprised to read in one of the magazines you sent along a use of the biscuit joiner to cut grooves by sliding the unit along while running. It never crossed my mind to do so but it is a quick and should be accurate way of cutting for splines and probably even the grooves to receive drawer bottoms and other applications. Mine is a porter cable which I have had for four or five years now, it includes a small cutter for #0 biscuits which I have used for mitering frames corners. It means changing the cutter blade but pretty cool. I read another article or rather you did but the builder used it to assemble drawer boxes. quick and strong if not classic joinery. For a lot of applications though this is exactly the answer, strong, accurate and fast. Any time that list members feel I may be over stepping they should feel free to say so. I often put quite a bit of effort into writing what I think is a clear explanation or description of things I have done or have observed and I do so because I am grateful for others who have taken the trouble to inform me. It is difficult for most of us blind people to learn from observation and sometimes it is just a very simple concept or understanding which, if missed can become a block to building more learning or understanding. This is not unique to the blind but we have fewer opportunities. I just hope to speed the process for others as others have for me. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Dale, that was a thorough and well written response on biscuit joiners. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Max, it wasn't a router he was using although there are router bits for cutting biscuit slots, he was using a specific tool called a biscuit joiner or also called a plate joiner. You purchase the biscuits which are actually elongated ovals made of dry and compressed beach wood. They swell when glue is applied. They come in about four sizes. The biscuit does fit or should fit pretty well half way into the slot on one side how ever it might have looked to you. As for strength, dowels and biscuits are not primarily for strengthening although they do that. The primary function is to align the joint in most applications. Dowels suffer from the direction of the grain which is usually across the grain of the mating surfaces and glue more firmly attaches in the long direction of the grain. The other main disadvantage of dowels is that accuracy is absolutely critical, not only must the holes align absolutely directly but they must be absolutely in line. Biscuit joinery allows for a little error. The plate joiner has a carbide tipped blade which is on a spring loaded travel. There is a fence, these vary from machine to machine but you can set the fence a particular distance from the slot through which the blade will protrude and will be parallel to the slot. Most will allow the fence to be tilted in both directions to allow you to cut slots in mitered assemblies and other angled fixation of differing angles. You can index off the fence or index off the bottom flat surface of the joiner. You then set the fence on the face of a board and bring the face with the slot tight against the edge of the board holding it there using a handle built for that purpose then turn on the machine and using the other hand you force the cutter through the slot and into the edge against the springs which plunges the blade into the edge of the board. Release so it runs back out with the spring assist then release the trigger so it shuts off. When I built my work bench I made up a frame rather like the shape of angle iron using three quarters plywood one edge to the face of the other and joined those with biscuits. I then mitered the corners and joined them with biscuits and clamped them up square. I might have used screws but I never would have got the corners strong that way and doweling the edges of
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions.
Thanks for clearing that up. He only has half an hour and has to go pretty fast. That doesn't give much time to explain things. Also he probably assumes that people have been watching for a long time and he explained that in 1990 so there's no need to do it again. Come to think of a couple of things, the bisket looked somewhat like a cookie. What we in the U S call a cookie is a bisket to the bloody brits. Is that where the name comes from? Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Max, it wasn't a router he was using although there are router bits for cutting biscuit slots, he was using a specific tool called a biscuit joiner or also called a plate joiner. You purchase the biscuits which are actually elongated ovals made of dry and compressed beach wood. They swell when glue is applied. They come in about four sizes. The biscuit does fit or should fit pretty well half way into the slot on one side how ever it might have looked to you. As for strength, dowels and biscuits are not primarily for strengthening although they do that. The primary function is to align the joint in most applications. Dowels suffer from the direction of the grain which is usually across the grain of the mating surfaces and glue more firmly attaches in the long direction of the grain. The other main disadvantage of dowels is that accuracy is absolutely critical, not only must the holes align absolutely directly but they must be absolutely in line. Biscuit joinery allows for a little error. The plate joiner has a carbide tipped blade which is on a spring loaded travel. There is a fence, these vary from machine to machine but you can set the fence a particular distance from the slot through which the blade will protrude and will be parallel to the slot. Most will allow the fence to be tilted in both directions to allow you to cut slots in mitered assemblies and other angled fixation of differing angles. You can index off the fence or index off the bottom flat surface of the joiner. You then set the fence on the face of a board and bring the face with the slot tight against the edge of the board holding it there using a handle built for that purpose then turn on the machine and using the other hand you force the cutter through the slot and into the edge against the springs which plunges the blade into the edge of the board. Release so it runs back out with the spring assist then release the trigger so it shuts off. When I built my work bench I made up a frame rather like the shape of angle iron using three quarters plywood one edge to the face of the other and joined those with biscuits. I then mitered the corners and joined them with biscuits and clamped them up square. I might have used screws but I never would have got the corners strong that way and doweling the edges of plywood isn't all that satisfactory or probably reliable. when the biscuits get wet with glue not only does the glue bond but they swell and actually if you don't work fairly quickly they can be very difficult to set. This can be a disat\dvantage, Norm has mentioned on a couple of shows that biscuits set too close to the surface can cause slight dimpling to telegraph through the surface as the glue ages and I suppose the wood responds to changes in environmental moisture. On a very smooth finish this can be visible. So far I haven't noticed this. There is a new unit out there, called a domino joiner I believe, cuts a more rectangular hole and uses rectangular biscuits and an oscilating cutting action. These work more like floating mortise tennon joints. I am not otherwise sure of the advantages, if they index easily enough I suppose you could use them to join rails styles without cutting proper mortise tenon joints. The biscuit joiners are plenty expensive but these domino joiners are really a lot more costly. Generally the correct term is Jointer. The machine is also sometimes called a planer but more usually that refers to a device for thicknessing the face of wood or for the hand held planers more usually with a 3 inch wide cutter head intended primarily for removing stock like the edge of a door. Joiner is sometimes used to refer to a jointer and I hear it more commonly used these days but the manufacturers still seem to refer to them as jointers. Hope this helps clear things up for you. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar
[BlindHandyMan] Aligning small hinges.
I have a question about aligning small hinges. My radio desk is finished except for applying the finishing coat. It will sit in front of an H V A C vent so I made a cutout in the back for the air to come through. I don't want the cold air to blow on me when I am sitting there so I saved the cutout peace and hinged it to make a trap door I can close when I want to. I couldn't get the hinges aligned right. They are close enough but I wonder if anyone has any little tricks. It is inside and the space is too confined to get a carpenter's square inside and the hinges are too far from the end wall for a trisquare to reach. This is done and it's not very obvious to someone who sees the desk but if I ever have to do this again I would like to get it right. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Thanks Larry, I only hope I didn't leave anything significant out. I was surprised to read in one of the magazines you sent along a use of the biscuit joiner to cut grooves by sliding the unit along while running. It never crossed my mind to do so but it is a quick and should be accurate way of cutting for splines and probably even the grooves to receive drawer bottoms and other applications. Mine is a porter cable which I have had for four or five years now, it includes a small cutter for #0 biscuits which I have used for mitering frames corners. It means changing the cutter blade but pretty cool. I read another article or rather you did but the builder used it to assemble drawer boxes. quick and strong if not classic joinery. For a lot of applications though this is exactly the answer, strong, accurate and fast. Any time that list members feel I may be over stepping they should feel free to say so. I often put quite a bit of effort into writing what I think is a clear explanation or description of things I have done or have observed and I do so because I am grateful for others who have taken the trouble to inform me. It is difficult for most of us blind people to learn from observation and sometimes it is just a very simple concept or understanding which, if missed can become a block to building more learning or understanding. This is not unique to the blind but we have fewer opportunities. I just hope to speed the process for others as others have for me. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Dale, that was a thorough and well written response on biscuit joiners. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Max, it wasn't a router he was using although there are router bits for cutting biscuit slots, he was using a specific tool called a biscuit joiner or also called a plate joiner. You purchase the biscuits which are actually elongated ovals made of dry and compressed beach wood. They swell when glue is applied. They come in about four sizes. The biscuit does fit or should fit pretty well half way into the slot on one side how ever it might have looked to you. As for strength, dowels and biscuits are not primarily for strengthening although they do that. The primary function is to align the joint in most applications. Dowels suffer from the direction of the grain which is usually across the grain of the mating surfaces and glue more firmly attaches in the long direction of the grain. The other main disadvantage of dowels is that accuracy is absolutely critical, not only must the holes align absolutely directly but they must be absolutely in line. Biscuit joinery allows for a little error. The plate joiner has a carbide tipped blade which is on a spring loaded travel. There is a fence, these vary from machine to machine but you can set the fence a particular distance from the slot through which the blade will protrude and will be parallel to the slot. Most will allow the fence to be tilted in both directions to allow you to cut slots in mitered assemblies and other angled fixation of differing angles. You can index off the fence or index off the bottom flat surface of the joiner. You then set the fence on the face of a board and bring the face with
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions.
Yes, well my fence sticks out probably over four inches so using that for a reference wouldn't be good except for sheet goods. With it folded up flat though and using the base along a flat surface would allow milling narrower stock. Because I have the tools though I think i would sooner use a slot cutting bit on the router table for say cutting a groove around a sheet of plywood then cutting a tongue on surrounding edge pieces except that it is easier and much quicker to just use biscuits as intended. Many years ago I saw Norm Abrams use a bench biscuit joiner. I don't know just how it worked as I can't see but he seemed to have a bench arrangement with a fence and the cutter came up from the bottom when he stepped on a pedal. I am not aware that he has used that in several years but I thought it might be an interesting insert to build for my router table should I ever need to do a lot of biscuit joining. I have not seen such a device since. It is really getting on my t*its that here I have all this time on my hands and there my shop sits as it was left a month ago. I can't believe that the Hospital just called to check on me with a thought to modified work! Sure, the blind guy can do the photocopying and filing. The beggars wouldn't let me near their shop of course. She implied that I would have to use my vacation time for the trip we are taking next week. One more crack like that and I will be exploring the possibilities of total disability and they can start my pension early. Then we will see how much time I can put in my workshop! Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. p.s. using a biscuit joiner to cut a running groove in a workpiece never crossed my mind either and strikes me as both difficult and dangerous. Keeping the workpiece tightly clamped down would seem to be a significant problem. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Larry, I only hope I didn't leave anything significant out. I was surprised to read in one of the magazines you sent along a use of the biscuit joiner to cut grooves by sliding the unit along while running. It never crossed my mind to do so but it is a quick and should be accurate way of cutting for splines and probably even the grooves to receive drawer bottoms and other applications. Mine is a porter cable which I have had for four or five years now, it includes a small cutter for #0 biscuits which I have used for mitering frames corners. It means changing the cutter blade but pretty cool. I read another article or rather you did but the builder used it to assemble drawer boxes. quick and strong if not classic joinery. For a lot of applications though this is exactly the answer, strong, accurate and fast. Any time that list members feel I may be over stepping they should feel free to say so. I often put quite a bit of effort into writing what I think is a clear explanation or description of things I have done or have observed and I do so because I am grateful for others who have taken the trouble to inform me. It is difficult for most of us blind people to learn from observation and sometimes it is just a very simple concept or understanding which, if missed can become a block to building more learning or understanding. This is not unique to the blind but we have fewer opportunities. I just hope to speed the process for others as others have for me. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Dale, that was a thorough and well written response on biscuit joiners. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Max, it wasn't a router he was using although there are router bits for cutting biscuit slots, he was using a specific tool called a biscuit joiner or also called a plate joiner. You purchase the biscuits which are actually elongated ovals made of dry and compressed beach wood. They swell when glue is applied. They come in about four sizes. The biscuit does fit or should fit pretty well half way into the slot on one side how ever it might have looked to you. As for strength,
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions.
Membership Kit is attached. Magazine CDs are sent out monthly ands book CDs on an occassional basis. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Max Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Larry. I guess it's time for me to subscribe to your magazine. Please post the information again. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Dale, that was a thorough and well written response on biscuit joiners. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Max, it wasn't a router he was using although there are router bits for cutting biscuit slots, he was using a specific tool called a biscuit joiner or also called a plate joiner. You purchase the biscuits which are actually elongated ovals made of dry and compressed beach wood. They swell when glue is applied. They come in about four sizes. The biscuit does fit or should fit pretty well half way into the slot on one side how ever it might have looked to you. As for strength, dowels and biscuits are not primarily for strengthening although they do that. The primary function is to align the joint in most applications. Dowels suffer from the direction of the grain which is usually across the grain of the mating surfaces and glue more firmly attaches in the long direction of the grain. The other main disadvantage of dowels is that accuracy is absolutely critical, not only must the holes align absolutely directly but they must be absolutely in line. Biscuit joinery allows for a little error. The plate joiner has a carbide tipped blade which is on a spring loaded travel. There is a fence, these vary from machine to machine but you can set the fence a particular distance from the slot through which the blade will protrude and will be parallel to the slot. Most will allow the fence to be tilted in both directions to allow you to cut slots in mitered assemblies and other angled fixation of differing angles. You can index off the fence or index off the bottom flat surface of the joiner. You then set the fence on the face of a board and bring the face with the slot tight against the edge of the board holding it there using a handle built for that purpose then turn on the machine and using the other hand you force the cutter through the slot and into the edge against the springs which plunges the blade into the edge of the board. Release so it runs back out with the spring assist then release the trigger so it shuts off. When I built my work bench I made up a frame rather like the shape of angle iron using three quarters plywood one edge to the face of the other and joined those with biscuits. I then mitered the corners and joined them with biscuits and clamped them up square. I might have used screws but I never would have got the corners strong that way and doweling the edges of plywood isn't all that satisfactory or probably reliable. when the biscuits get wet with glue not only does the glue bond but they swell and actually if you don't work fairly quickly they can be very difficult to set. This can be a disat\dvantage, Norm has mentioned on a couple of shows that biscuits set too close to the surface can cause slight dimpling to telegraph through the surface as the glue ages and I suppose the wood responds to changes in environmental moisture. On a very smooth finish this can be visible. So far I haven't noticed this. There is a new unit out there, called a domino joiner I believe, cuts a more rectangular hole and uses rectangular biscuits and an oscilating cutting action. These work more like floating mortise tennon joints. I am not otherwise sure of the advantages, if they index easily enough I suppose you could use them to join rails styles without cutting proper mortise tenon joints. The biscuit joiners are plenty expensive but these domino joiners are really a lot more costly. Generally the correct term is Jointer. The machine is also sometimes called a planer but more usually that refers to a device for thicknessing the face of wood or for the hand held planers more usually with a 3 inch wide cutter head intended primarily for removing stock like the edge of a door. Joiner is
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions.
Keep up the good work Dale. I for one find your long and descriptive responses to be very helpful. Paul Franklin - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Thanks Larry, I only hope I didn't leave anything significant out. I was surprised to read in one of the magazines you sent along a use of the biscuit joiner to cut grooves by sliding the unit along while running. It never crossed my mind to do so but it is a quick and should be accurate way of cutting for splines and probably even the grooves to receive drawer bottoms and other applications. Mine is a porter cable which I have had for four or five years now, it includes a small cutter for #0 biscuits which I have used for mitering frames corners. It means changing the cutter blade but pretty cool. I read another article or rather you did but the builder used it to assemble drawer boxes. quick and strong if not classic joinery. For a lot of applications though this is exactly the answer, strong, accurate and fast. Any time that list members feel I may be over stepping they should feel free to say so. I often put quite a bit of effort into writing what I think is a clear explanation or description of things I have done or have observed and I do so because I am grateful for others who have taken the trouble to inform me. It is difficult for most of us blind people to learn from observation and sometimes it is just a very simple concept or understanding which, if missed can become a block to building more learning or understanding. This is not unique to the blind but we have fewer opportunities. I just hope to speed the process for others as others have for me. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Dale, that was a thorough and well written response on biscuit joiners. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Max, it wasn't a router he was using although there are router bits for cutting biscuit slots, he was using a specific tool called a biscuit joiner or also called a plate joiner. You purchase the biscuits which are actually elongated ovals made of dry and compressed beach wood. They swell when glue is applied. They come in about four sizes. The biscuit does fit or should fit pretty well half way into the slot on one side how ever it might have looked to you. As for strength, dowels and biscuits are not primarily for strengthening although they do that. The primary function is to align the joint in most applications. Dowels suffer from the direction of the grain which is usually across the grain of the mating surfaces and glue more firmly attaches in the long direction of the grain. The other main disadvantage of dowels is that accuracy is absolutely critical, not only must the holes align absolutely directly but they must be absolutely in line. Biscuit joinery allows for a little error. The plate joiner has a carbide tipped blade which is on a spring loaded travel. There is a fence, these vary from machine to machine but you can set the fence a particular distance from the slot through which the blade will protrude and will be parallel to the slot. Most will allow the fence to be tilted in both directions to allow you to cut slots in mitered assemblies and other angled fixation of differing angles. You can index off the fence or index off the bottom flat surface of the joiner. You then set the fence on the face of a board and bring the face with the slot tight against the edge of the board holding it there using a handle built for that purpose then turn on the machine and using the other hand you force the cutter through the slot and into the edge against the springs which plunges the blade into the edge of the board. Release so it runs back out with the spring assist then release the trigger so it shuts off. When I built my work bench I made up a frame rather like the shape of angle iron using three quarters plywood one edge to the face of the other and joined those with biscuits. I then mitered the corners and joined them with biscuits and clamped them up square. I might have used screws but I never would have got the corners strong that way and doweling the edges of plywood
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Aligning small hinges.
Hi Max, What I do is open the hinge and turn the hinge around and fit the blade against the edge I will attach it to sliding it back until the fold for the hinge pin is against the face of the door. I then mark the holes so that when the hinge is turned the right way they line up true to the face of the door. Some hinges will allow you to do this the right way up as well. For spacing, sometimes it is just as easy to make a little block to form the distance between the edge of the door and the hinge which can be used at either end to space them equally. You will have to allow the distance for the crack between the door and the wall, you can guess or use a fold or two of cardboard to account for that extra distance. Even with care I sometimes have trouble getting them right on, particularly small hinges. I tend to go for piano hinge and cut to length for that reason, you get a good long line to judge and index off of and if you like you can easily form a shallow rabbet to countersink the hinge into with a perfectly straight and parallel lip to but the long edge of the hinge leaf against. If you are surface mounting then again I suggest opening the hinge and turning it face down with the pin sleeve as the spacer and marking holes before turning it right side up and mounting. Hope I described that adequately, not sure I really understood it. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: Max Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:09 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Aligning small hinges. I have a question about aligning small hinges. My radio desk is finished except for applying the finishing coat. It will sit in front of an H V A C vent so I made a cutout in the back for the air to come through. I don't want the cold air to blow on me when I am sitting there so I saved the cutout peace and hinged it to make a trap door I can close when I want to. I couldn't get the hinges aligned right. They are close enough but I wonder if anyone has any little tricks. It is inside and the space is too confined to get a carpenter's square inside and the hinges are too far from the end wall for a trisquare to reach. This is done and it's not very obvious to someone who sees the desk but if I ever have to do this again I would like to get it right. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Thanks Larry, I only hope I didn't leave anything significant out. I was surprised to read in one of the magazines you sent along a use of the biscuit joiner to cut grooves by sliding the unit along while running. It never crossed my mind to do so but it is a quick and should be accurate way of cutting for splines and probably even the grooves to receive drawer bottoms and other applications. Mine is a porter cable which I have had for four or five years now, it includes a small cutter for #0 biscuits which I have used for mitering frames corners. It means changing the cutter blade but pretty cool. I read another article or rather you did but the builder used it to assemble drawer boxes. quick and strong if not classic joinery. For a lot of applications though this is exactly the answer, strong, accurate and fast. Any time that list members feel I may be over stepping they should feel free to say so. I often put quite a bit of effort into writing what I think is a clear explanation or description of things I have done or have observed and I do so because I am grateful for others who have taken the trouble to inform me. It is difficult for most of us blind people to learn from observation and sometimes it is just a very simple concept or understanding which, if missed can become a block to building more learning or understanding. This is not unique to the blind but we have fewer opportunities. I just hope to speed the process for others as others have for me. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Dale, that was a thorough and well written response on biscuit joiners. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Aligning small hinges.
Sounds like in one area the carpenter's square is too large and in another area the try square is too small. I suggest making a rectangular piece of wood, say a 1/4-inch thick hardboard, of the appropriate size to use as a marking square. That way you could place it where needed and mark your lines from it. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Max Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a question about aligning small hinges. My radio desk is finished except for applying the finishing coat. It will sit in front of an H V A C vent so I made a cutout in the back for the air to come through. I don't want the cold air to blow on me when I am sitting there so I saved the cutout peace and hinged it to make a trap door I can close when I want to. I couldn't get the hinges aligned right. They are close enough but I wonder if anyone has any little tricks. It is inside and the space is too confined to get a carpenter's square inside and the hinges are too far from the end wall for a trisquare to reach. This is done and it's not very obvious to someone who sees the desk but if I ever have to do this again I would like to get it right. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Thanks Larry, I only hope I didn't leave anything significant out. I was surprised to read in one of the magazines you sent along a use of the biscuit joiner to cut grooves by sliding the unit along while running. It never crossed my mind to do so but it is a quick and should be accurate way of cutting for splines and probably even the grooves to receive drawer bottoms and other applications. Mine is a porter cable which I have had for four or five years now, it includes a small cutter for #0 biscuits which I have used for mitering frames corners. It means changing the cutter blade but pretty cool. I read another article or rather you did but the builder used it to assemble drawer boxes. quick and strong if not classic joinery. For a lot of applications though this is exactly the answer, strong, accurate and fast. Any time that list members feel I may be over stepping they should feel free to say so. I often put quite a bit of effort into writing what I think is a clear explanation or description of things I have done or have observed and I do so because I am grateful for others who have taken the trouble to inform me. It is difficult for most of us blind people to learn from observation and sometimes it is just a very simple concept or understanding which, if missed can become a block to building more learning or understanding. This is not unique to the blind but we have fewer opportunities. I just hope to speed the process for others as others have for me. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Dale, that was a thorough and well written response on biscuit joiners. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Max, it wasn't a router he was using although there are router bits for cutting biscuit slots, he was using a specific tool called a biscuit joiner or also called a plate joiner. You purchase the biscuits which are actually elongated ovals made of dry and compressed beach wood. They swell when glue is applied. They come in about four sizes. The biscuit does fit or should fit pretty well half way into the slot on one side how ever it might have looked to you. As for strength, dowels and biscuits are not primarily for strengthening although they do that. The primary function is to align the joint in most applications. Dowels suffer from the direction of the grain which is usually across the grain of the mating surfaces and glue more firmly attaches in the long direction of the grain. The other main disadvantage of dowels is that accuracy is absolutely critical, not only must the holes align absolutely directly but they must be absolutely in line. Biscuit joinery
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions.
Go for it, tiger --- or should I say Go for it like a Polar Bear? -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, well my fence sticks out probably over four inches so using that for a reference wouldn't be good except for sheet goods. With it folded up flat though and using the base along a flat surface would allow milling narrower stock. Because I have the tools though I think i would sooner use a slot cutting bit on the router table for say cutting a groove around a sheet of plywood then cutting a tongue on surrounding edge pieces except that it is easier and much quicker to just use biscuits as intended. Many years ago I saw Norm Abrams use a bench biscuit joiner. I don't know just how it worked as I can't see but he seemed to have a bench arrangement with a fence and the cutter came up from the bottom when he stepped on a pedal. I am not aware that he has used that in several years but I thought it might be an interesting insert to build for my router table should I ever need to do a lot of biscuit joining. I have not seen such a device since. It is really getting on my t*its that here I have all this time on my hands and there my shop sits as it was left a month ago. I can't believe that the Hospital just called to check on me with a thought to modified work! Sure, the blind guy can do the photocopying and filing. The beggars wouldn't let me near their shop of course. She implied that I would have to use my vacation time for the trip we are taking next week. One more crack like that and I will be exploring the possibilities of total disability and they can start my pension early. Then we will see how much time I can put in my workshop! Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. p.s. using a biscuit joiner to cut a running groove in a workpiece never crossed my mind either and strikes me as both difficult and dangerous. Keeping the workpiece tightly clamped down would seem to be a significant problem. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Larry, I only hope I didn't leave anything significant out. I was surprised to read in one of the magazines you sent along a use of the biscuit joiner to cut grooves by sliding the unit along while running. It never crossed my mind to do so but it is a quick and should be accurate way of cutting for splines and probably even the grooves to receive drawer bottoms and other applications. Mine is a porter cable which I have had for four or five years now, it includes a small cutter for #0 biscuits which I have used for mitering frames corners. It means changing the cutter blade but pretty cool. I read another article or rather you did but the builder used it to assemble drawer boxes. quick and strong if not classic joinery. For a lot of applications though this is exactly the answer, strong, accurate and fast. Any time that list members feel I may be over stepping they should feel free to say so. I often put quite a bit of effort into writing what I think is a clear explanation or description of things I have done or have observed and I do so because I am grateful for others who have taken the trouble to inform me. It is difficult for most of us blind people to learn from observation and sometimes it is just a very simple concept or understanding which, if missed can become a block to building more learning or understanding. This is not unique to the blind but we have fewer opportunities. I just hope to speed the process for others as others have for me. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Dale, that was a thorough and well written response on biscuit joiners. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Max, it wasn't a router he was using although there are router bits for cutting biscuit slots, he was using a specific tool called a biscuit joiner
[BlindHandyMan] Tool Sounds
I'm needing some tools sounds like Hammers, saws, drills and stuff like that. If anyone has some tool sounds that they could send to me, I would greatly appreciate it. My personal email address is in the contact info at the bottom. Thanks, Donnie Contact me at: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, KY 40402 Home # 606-364-3321 Cell # 606-438-2557 Church # 606-364-PRAY Skype Name: Donnie1261 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Tool Sounds
Do you want hammer sounds with or without thumb sounds? -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donnie Parrett Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Tool Sounds I'm needing some tools sounds like Hammers, saws, drills and stuff like that. If anyone has some tool sounds that they could send to me, I would greatly appreciate it. My personal email address is in the contact info at the bottom. Thanks, Donnie Contact me at: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, KY 40402 Home # 606-364-3321 Cell # 606-438-2557 Church # 606-364-PRAY Skype Name: Donnie1261 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/756 - Release Date: 4/10/2007 10:44 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/756 - Release Date: 4/10/2007 10:44 PM To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[BlindHandyMan] help neded
my workshop rouf has leacked all over my carving tools how can i remove the light rust with out rezorting to grinding and how can 9i hone them i heard that one point thair was some form of liquid you cud sit the tools in to hone them can anyone coment on this email [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype carlf16 msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] or .com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Tool Sounds
lol bang bang bang outch owowowowowowowoowowowowowwowowowowowowowowo shit bugger plast - Original Message - From: Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Tool Sounds Do you want hammer sounds with or without thumb sounds? -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donnie Parrett Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Tool Sounds I'm needing some tools sounds like Hammers, saws, drills and stuff like that. If anyone has some tool sounds that they could send to me, I would greatly appreciate it. My personal email address is in the contact info at the bottom. Thanks, Donnie Contact me at: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, KY 40402 Home # 606-364-3321 Cell # 606-438-2557 Church # 606-364-PRAY Skype Name: Donnie1261 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/756 - Release Date: 4/10/2007 10:44 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/756 - Release Date: 4/10/2007 10:44 PM To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[BlindHandyMan] Cleaning Rust Off Tools
Hi All If you have light rust on tools from leaving them out in the weather (or a similar cause), you can use vinegar and salt to clean it off with very little scrubbing. Steps 1. Pour vinegar onto a portion of the tools. You don't want to do the whole thing at once, because the vinegar will come off. 2. Put a good amount of salt on the places where you poured vinegar. 3. Take the green side of a sponge and scrub the tool. 4. Repeat steps 1-3 until the whole tool has been cleaned. 5. Rinse the tools off with a hose removing all traces of salt. 6. Dry the tools off. Tips * Use the cheapest salt and vinegar you can find; it works just as well. Make sure you spray the tools with WD 40 or a similar product to put a film over the tools to prevent rust occurring again. Then keep them out of an area where high moisture content is prevalent. It is easier to prevent rust than clean it off when it has taken hold. ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car
Robert, I know that there are online subscription services for service manual type information. They cost a subscription fee and are really geared toward those who do a lot of work on cars. I don't know if any of them are accessible to the blind. To answer your specific question, I don't know of any online sites to find the text of the Owner's Manual. The print manual should be able to be taken out of the glove box and scanned, if you have access to a scanner and OCR software. Other than that, I don't have any better suggestions. - Original Message - From: Robert J. Moore To: Blind Handyman Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:55 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car My Wife and I are going to be picking up a 1996 Grand Am Is there some where on line that I could get the manual to down load? If not that, does any one know if it would be available to get the owners manual on a CD so that I could read it on my computer? I don't really care what form it takes, I am just looking for any way that I can access the owners manual my self without having some one like my Wife read it to me. Personally I would find reading the manual not only informative but it would be interesting. Evie on the other hand would find it most boring and tedious. Robert -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/756 - Release Date: 4/10/2007 10:44 PM [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car
Larry That would be sweet to make those upgrades If I could afford it. Only one problem beside the money to do such a thing is that I picked up a Grand am, not a trams am. This is more of a standard 4 door grocery getter. Don't get me wrong it is still a sweet ride. It is a 1996 and only has 37,000 miles on it that is not 137,000 that's 37,000. and you are not going to believe this but the car has been in Minnesota the whole time and does not have a lick of rust, (What we up here call MRC, that is to say Minnesota Road Cancer) on it. The car has been meticulously maintained. It was given to us by a deer friend and he takes great care of all his stuff. That is part of the reason I want to get an owners manual, so I can keep the car in tip top shape for many years to come. Vroom Vroom. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:48 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car Robert, 96 Trans-am, hmmm... Street racer or hotrod power tour builder? Could be fun... GM crate 502, race built 4 le-60 trans, upgrade the existing disk brakes and suspension? You never know bro that could be a wild child. You might try checking out Motors manuals, Chilton's manuals or Mitchell manuals on the internet. These guys are all shop manuals and are available on CD. Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Robert J. Moore Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:55 PM To: Blind Handyman Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car My Wife and I are going to be picking up a 1996 Grand Am Is there some where on line that I could get the manual to down load? If not that, does any one know if it would be available to get the owners manual on a CD so that I could read it on my computer? I don't really care what form it takes, I am just looking for any way that I can access the owners manual my self without having some one like my Wife read it to me. Personally I would find reading the manual not only informative but it would be interesting. Evie on the other hand would find it most boring and tedious. Robert To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach Infowest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 80504529) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80504529m=43c30 https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80504529m=43c30 4d9c211c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80504529m=43c30 https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80504529m=43c30 4d9c211c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80504529m=43c30 https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80504529m=43c30 4d9c211c=f -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:
[BlindHandyMan] RE: Trans am, Grand am, Whatever.
Larry Sorry did not mean to pile on. I had not read Rich's response regarding the car being a grand am not a trans am before I sent my reply. -- About that motor and it being a bitch to service and the plugs being hard to get to. I will probably have most of the work done by my mechanic friend down the street. I am sure I will try to tackle some of it myself. Good news about the plugs is that they were just changed this winter. He went with the double platinum plugs. I don't know that I would have gone that rout. Not saying that they are nessasaraly the wrong plug because I really don't know. I just have heard from some people that they are over rated. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong. I don't know a lot about plugs but I have successfully installed quite a few sets in my day. but I think since they are in there and it is running quite nice, I will leave them right where they are. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert J. Moore Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:07 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car Larry That would be sweet to make those upgrades If I could afford it. Only one problem beside the money to do such a thing is that I picked up a Grand am, not a trams am. This is more of a standard 4 door grocery getter. Don't get me wrong it is still a sweet ride. It is a 1996 and only has 37,000 miles on it that is not 137,000 that's 37,000. and you are not going to believe this but the car has been in Minnesota the whole time and does not have a lick of rust, (What we up here call MRC, that is to say Minnesota Road Cancer) on it. The car has been meticulously maintained. It was given to us by a deer friend and he takes great care of all his stuff. That is part of the reason I want to get an owners manual, so I can keep the car in tip top shape for many years to come. Vroom Vroom. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:48 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car Robert, 96 Trans-am, hmmm... Street racer or hotrod power tour builder? Could be fun... GM crate 502, race built 4 le-60 trans, upgrade the existing disk brakes and suspension? You never know bro that could be a wild child. You might try checking out Motors manuals, Chilton's manuals or Mitchell manuals on the internet. These guys are all shop manuals and are available on CD. Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Robert J. Moore Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:55 PM To: Blind Handyman Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car My Wife and I are going to be picking up a 1996 Grand Am Is there some where on line that I could get the manual to down load? If not that, does any one know if it would be available to get the owners manual on a CD so that I could read it on my computer? I don't really care what form it takes, I am just looking for any way that I can access the owners manual my self without having some one like my Wife read it to me. Personally I would find reading the manual not only informative but it would be interesting. Evie on the other hand would find it most boring and tedious. Robert To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html http://acbradio.org/handyman.html http://acbradio.org/handyman.html http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address
[BlindHandyMan] Understanding Common Paint and Finish Strippers
Hi Everyone Understanding Common Paint and Finish Strippers This article will discuss the various chemicals and chemical combinations used in modern paint and varnish removers. It should be noted that this information is presented as a general guide and should not be used in place of the manufacturer's recommendations. You should always read the directions provided by the manufacturer and take care to ensure all safety precautions are followed. There are many strippers and paint removers available at the local hardware store. This guide is designed to help sort out some of the more common ingredients. Paint and finish stripper manufacturers are required to list their ingredients on the package, making it somewhat easier to understand the product you are purchasing. In addition to the chemicals and solvents discussed below, there are a number of other professional stripping chemicals that should only be used by an experienced professional with the proper safety training and equipment. Understanding Striping Solvents and Chemicals There are only a few commonly used chemicals in modern wood strippers. These solvents and chemicals are sometimes used alone or in varying combinations and strengths. They are commonly listed by the following acronyms: Solvents: MC = Methylene Chloride ATM = Acetone, Toluene, and Methanol NMP = N-Methyl Pyrrolidone DBE = di-basic esters Alkalis: Lye = Sodium Hydroxide Ammonia = Ammonia Hydroxide Recommendations MC = Methylene Chloride Methylene Chloride is one of the oldest and most common solvents used in paint and varnish strippers. Although MC is non-flammable it is also toxic and a suspected carcinogen. It metabolizes in the blood to form carbon monoxide. This causes the heart to pump harder and can trigger heart attacks in people with existing heart conditions. For this reason, if you have a heart condition, avoid using a paint remover with MC as a listed ingredient. MC based strippers are available in different strengths and consistencies. Liquid and semi-paste are the most common consistencies. The semi-paste stripper is often used for vertical objects where the stripper needs to cling to the paint. The solvents in these strippers evaporate very quickly so paraffin wax is added to help slow evaporation. The wax will rise to the surface and help form a protective skin. Disturbing the wax skin will cause solvents to escape and weaken the stripper. Alkali fortified MC is often used in marine grade finish removers and are available at most marine supply store. Alkali fortified MC strippers are effective on tougher coatings such as epoxy and polyester. They are more expensive and hazardous to work with so additional care should be taken when selecting and using these stripping agents. Note: The waxes used in MC based strippers must be removed from the wood before refinishing. Failure to thoroughly remove the wax may cause interference with the new finish. A clean cloth and solvent such as naphtha, lacquer thinner, or alcohol should be used to remove the wax residue left behind when the stripper is removed. ATM = Acetone, Toluene, and Methanol These are the three primary ingredients in Lacquer Thinner and are used together to form a very aggressive stripping agent. ATM strippers are available with wax and thickeners to form semi-paste finishes as well as in forms without any of these additives. ATM Strippers works very well on most old finishes and paints. The chemicals in ATM strippers evaporate very quickly so wax is added to keep them in contact with the paint or finishes long enough to allow them to penetrate and soften the surface. The primary advantage of an ATM stripper is that they are inexpensive and do not have the health concerns of Methylene Chloride. They are flammable and air polluting. Some brands may contain a alkali that will stain some hardwoods. ATM Refinishers are also available. These products don't contain the wax and thickeners of the ATM Strippers. Because the solvents tend to evaporate quickly the manufacturers recommend you use manual scraping methods with the refinisher. Most people become frustrated with the slow rate of finish removal from ATM Refinishers. Because of this slow rate of removal, and the fact that ATM Refinishers are simply over priced lacquer thinner, we recommend you avoid ATM Refinishers and use an ATM Stripper instead. Note: The waxes used in ATM based strippers must be removed from the wood before refinishing. Failure to thoroughly remove the wax may cause interference with the new finish. A clean cloth and solvent such as naphtha, lacquer thinner, or alcohol should be used to remove the wax residue left behind when the stripper is removed. NMP = N-Methyl Pyrrolidone These finishes are not as effective as strippers based on MC and often work at 1/3 to 1/2 the speed. They are also not effective on epoxy, Polyester, or baked on coatings. The solvents in NMP evaporate slowly making wax coatings and additives unnecessary.
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions.
Attachments don't come through the list. Send it directly to me. My email address is at the end of this message. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Membership Kit is attached. Magazine CDs are sent out monthly ands book CDs on an occassional basis. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Max Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Larry. I guess it's time for me to subscribe to your magazine. Please post the information again. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Dale, that was a thorough and well written response on biscuit joiners. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Max, it wasn't a router he was using although there are router bits for cutting biscuit slots, he was using a specific tool called a biscuit joiner or also called a plate joiner. You purchase the biscuits which are actually elongated ovals made of dry and compressed beach wood. They swell when glue is applied. They come in about four sizes. The biscuit does fit or should fit pretty well half way into the slot on one side how ever it might have looked to you. As for strength, dowels and biscuits are not primarily for strengthening although they do that. The primary function is to align the joint in most applications. Dowels suffer from the direction of the grain which is usually across the grain of the mating surfaces and glue more firmly attaches in the long direction of the grain. The other main disadvantage of dowels is that accuracy is absolutely critical, not only must the holes align absolutely directly but they must be absolutely in line. Biscuit joinery allows for a little error. The plate joiner has a carbide tipped blade which is on a spring loaded travel. There is a fence, these vary from machine to machine but you can set the fence a particular distance from the slot through which the blade will protrude and will be parallel to the slot. Most will allow the fence to be tilted in both directions to allow you to cut slots in mitered assemblies and other angled fixation of differing angles. You can index off the fence or index off the bottom flat surface of the joiner. You then set the fence on the face of a board and bring the face with the slot tight against the edge of the board holding it there using a handle built for that purpose then turn on the machine and using the other hand you force the cutter through the slot and into the edge against the springs which plunges the blade into the edge of the board. Release so it runs back out with the spring assist then release the trigger so it shuts off. When I built my work bench I made up a frame rather like the shape of angle iron using three quarters plywood one edge to the face of the other and joined those with biscuits. I then mitered the corners and joined them with biscuits and clamped them up square. I might have used screws but I never would have got the corners strong that way and doweling the edges of plywood isn't all that satisfactory or probably reliable. when the biscuits get wet with glue not only does the glue bond but they swell and actually if you don't work fairly quickly they can be very difficult to set. This can be a disat\dvantage, Norm has mentioned on a couple of shows that biscuits set too close to the surface can cause slight dimpling to telegraph through the surface as the glue ages and I suppose the wood responds to changes in environmental moisture. On a very smooth finish this can be visible. So far I haven't noticed this. There is a new unit out there, called a domino joiner I believe, cuts a more rectangular hole and uses rectangular biscuits and an oscilating cutting action. These work more like floating mortise tennon
[BlindHandyMan] All About Biscuit Joiners
Hi Everyone All About Biscuit Joiners (Plate Joiners) What is a Biscuit Joiner used for? A Biscuit joiner is a woodworking tool used to join two pieces of wood together. How does a biscuit joiner work? A biscuit joiner uses a small (4) blade to cut a crescent shaped hole in the opposite edges of two pieces of wood. An oval shaped wooden biscuit is covered with glue, placed in the slot, and the two boards are clamped together. Why would I want to use a biscuit joiner? Simplicity! A biscuit joiner is simple and quick to use. You can create joints in a fraction of the time it takes using more traditional woodworking techniques. Are Biscuit Joints strong? Yes, for most applications a biscuit joint is sufficiently strong. What are the biscuits made of? Most biscuits are made from compressed beech shavings stamped out into an oval pattern. Glue in the joint soaks into the biscuit causing it to swell and tighten up in the joint. What Biscuit sizes are available? The three most common sizes are: #0=5/8 wide X 1-3/4 long #10=3/4 wide X 2-1/8 long #20=1 wide X 2-3/8 long All of the above biscuits are .148 thick. Some manufacturers are now offering biscuit joiners that use mini biscuits. What size biscuits should I use in my joints? Generally you should try to use the largest biscuit that will fit. In most cases this will be a #20. Sometimes, especially when building thin frames, you will need to scale down to a #10 or #0 biscuit. What's the difference between a biscuit joiner and a plate joiner? There is no difference. Both names refer to the same tool. The term Biscuit joiner is used more commonly in the U.S. than Plate Joiner. What Types of Joints are Biscuit Joiners used for? The most common joints are: Edge to Edge (i.e. table tops), Miter Joints (i.e. picture frames), Butt Joinery (end to end), Corner joints (i.e. drawers), T Joints (i.e. book shelf) How do I make a T-Joint? Step 1 - Lay the two boards you wish to join on top of each other and mark the locations of the biscuits then cut the horizontal slots. Step 2- Cut the vertical slots. Step 3 - Assemble the joint. How do I lay out joints? Laying out a joint for a biscuit is one of the best features of this tool. For most butt joints all you have to do is draw a line between the two pieces and align the center mark on your joiner up with this mark. I'm interested in purchasing a biscuit joiner. What should I look for? There are a number of different models of biscuit joiners on the market from companies such as: DeWalt, Freud, Porter-Cable, Makita, Ryobi, Delta, Skil, and Lamello. Before buying a biscuit joiner you should make sure it is well made. A tool with loose tolerances and parts that slip easily will cause more aggravation and mistakes than it's worth. In my opinion, the price and features of the DeWalt push it to the top of the pack. I own this tool and am always impressed with the design and ease of adjusting the fence and depth mechanisms. The fence is mounted on a rack-and-pinion mechanism with measurements and common settings clearly marked. Dry-fit your Components before gluing to make sure everything fits. Store your biscuits in a clean dry container. They can absorb humidity from the air and swell. If you notice your joiner burning or smoking the wood in the slots it's time to sharpen or replace the blade. ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Aligning small hinges.
What I was doing was to cut out an opening and then take the cutout piece and put it back in the hole to use as a door. I guess the best thing to do is to practice on some scrap wood. Should have done that first. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Aligning small hinges. Hi Max, What I do is open the hinge and turn the hinge around and fit the blade against the edge I will attach it to sliding it back until the fold for the hinge pin is against the face of the door. I then mark the holes so that when the hinge is turned the right way they line up true to the face of the door. Some hinges will allow you to do this the right way up as well. For spacing, sometimes it is just as easy to make a little block to form the distance between the edge of the door and the hinge which can be used at either end to space them equally. You will have to allow the distance for the crack between the door and the wall, you can guess or use a fold or two of cardboard to account for that extra distance. Even with care I sometimes have trouble getting them right on, particularly small hinges. I tend to go for piano hinge and cut to length for that reason, you get a good long line to judge and index off of and if you like you can easily form a shallow rabbet to countersink the hinge into with a perfectly straight and parallel lip to but the long edge of the hinge leaf against. If you are surface mounting then again I suggest opening the hinge and turning it face down with the pin sleeve as the spacer and marking holes before turning it right side up and mounting. Hope I described that adequately, not sure I really understood it. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: Max Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:09 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Aligning small hinges. I have a question about aligning small hinges. My radio desk is finished except for applying the finishing coat. It will sit in front of an H V A C vent so I made a cutout in the back for the air to come through. I don't want the cold air to blow on me when I am sitting there so I saved the cutout peace and hinged it to make a trap door I can close when I want to. I couldn't get the hinges aligned right. They are close enough but I wonder if anyone has any little tricks. It is inside and the space is too confined to get a carpenter's square inside and the hinges are too far from the end wall for a trisquare to reach. This is done and it's not very obvious to someone who sees the desk but if I ever have to do this again I would like to get it right. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Thanks Larry, I only hope I didn't leave anything significant out. I was surprised to read in one of the magazines you sent along a use of the biscuit joiner to cut grooves by sliding the unit along while running. It never crossed my mind to do so but it is a quick and should be accurate way of cutting for splines and probably even the grooves to receive drawer bottoms and other applications. Mine is a porter cable which I have had for four or five years now, it includes a small cutter for #0 biscuits which I have used for mitering frames corners. It means changing the cutter blade but pretty cool. I read another article or rather you did but the builder used it to assemble drawer boxes. quick and strong if not classic joinery. For a lot of applications though this is exactly the answer, strong, accurate and fast. Any time that list members feel I may be over stepping they should feel free to say so. I often put quite a bit of effort into writing what I think is a clear explanation or description of things I have done or have observed and I do so because I am grateful for others who have taken the trouble to inform me. It is difficult for most of us blind people to learn from observation and sometimes it is just a very simple concept or
Re: [BlindHandyMan] All About Biscuit Joiners
Hi Ray. As usual you are right on top of things and sending useful and interesting information to the list. This one is a keeper for me. By all means keep it up. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Boyce, Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:00 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] All About Biscuit Joiners Hi Everyone All About Biscuit Joiners (Plate Joiners) What is a Biscuit Joiner used for? A Biscuit joiner is a woodworking tool used to join two pieces of wood together. How does a biscuit joiner work? A biscuit joiner uses a small (4) blade to cut a crescent shaped hole in the opposite edges of two pieces of wood. An oval shaped wooden biscuit is covered with glue, placed in the slot, and the two boards are clamped together. Why would I want to use a biscuit joiner? Simplicity! A biscuit joiner is simple and quick to use. You can create joints in a fraction of the time it takes using more traditional woodworking techniques. Are Biscuit Joints strong? Yes, for most applications a biscuit joint is sufficiently strong. What are the biscuits made of? Most biscuits are made from compressed beech shavings stamped out into an oval pattern. Glue in the joint soaks into the biscuit causing it to swell and tighten up in the joint. What Biscuit sizes are available? The three most common sizes are: #0=5/8 wide X 1-3/4 long #10=3/4 wide X 2-1/8 long #20=1 wide X 2-3/8 long All of the above biscuits are .148 thick. Some manufacturers are now offering biscuit joiners that use mini biscuits. What size biscuits should I use in my joints? Generally you should try to use the largest biscuit that will fit. In most cases this will be a #20. Sometimes, especially when building thin frames, you will need to scale down to a #10 or #0 biscuit. What's the difference between a biscuit joiner and a plate joiner? There is no difference. Both names refer to the same tool. The term Biscuit joiner is used more commonly in the U.S. than Plate Joiner. What Types of Joints are Biscuit Joiners used for? The most common joints are: Edge to Edge (i.e. table tops), Miter Joints (i.e. picture frames), Butt Joinery (end to end), Corner joints (i.e. drawers), T Joints (i.e. book shelf) How do I make a T-Joint? Step 1 - Lay the two boards you wish to join on top of each other and mark the locations of the biscuits then cut the horizontal slots. Step 2- Cut the vertical slots. Step 3 - Assemble the joint. How do I lay out joints? Laying out a joint for a biscuit is one of the best features of this tool. For most butt joints all you have to do is draw a line between the two pieces and align the center mark on your joiner up with this mark. I'm interested in purchasing a biscuit joiner. What should I look for? There are a number of different models of biscuit joiners on the market from companies such as: DeWalt, Freud, Porter-Cable, Makita, Ryobi, Delta, Skil, and Lamello. Before buying a biscuit joiner you should make sure it is well made. A tool with loose tolerances and parts that slip easily will cause more aggravation and mistakes than it's worth. In my opinion, the price and features of the DeWalt push it to the top of the pack. I own this tool and am always impressed with the design and ease of adjusting the fence and depth mechanisms. The fence is mounted on a rack-and-pinion mechanism with measurements and common settings clearly marked. Dry-fit your Components before gluing to make sure everything fits. Store your biscuits in a clean dry container. They can absorb humidity from the air and swell. If you notice your joiner burning or smoking the wood in the slots it's time to sharpen or replace the blade. ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car
Robert, The three sources I sent you are shop manuals and extremely comprehensive in nature. I am not sure how expensive they are but they will sere as a great resource for you. Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert J. Moore Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:07 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car Larry That would be sweet to make those upgrades If I could afford it. Only one problem beside the money to do such a thing is that I picked up a Grand am, not a trams am. This is more of a standard 4 door grocery getter. Don't get me wrong it is still a sweet ride. It is a 1996 and only has 37,000 miles on it that is not 137,000 that's 37,000. and you are not going to believe this but the car has been in Minnesota the whole time and does not have a lick of rust, (What we up here call MRC, that is to say Minnesota Road Cancer) on it. The car has been meticulously maintained. It was given to us by a deer friend and he takes great care of all his stuff. That is part of the reason I want to get an owners manual, so I can keep the car in tip top shape for many years to come. Vroom Vroom. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:48 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car Robert, 96 Trans-am, hmmm... Street racer or hotrod power tour builder? Could be fun... GM crate 502, race built 4 le-60 trans, upgrade the existing disk brakes and suspension? You never know bro that could be a wild child. You might try checking out Motors manuals, Chilton's manuals or Mitchell manuals on the internet. These guys are all shop manuals and are available on CD. Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Robert J. Moore Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:55 PM To: Blind Handyman Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car My Wife and I are going to be picking up a 1996 Grand Am Is there some where on line that I could get the manual to down load? If not that, does any one know if it would be available to get the owners manual on a CD so that I could read it on my computer? I don't really care what form it takes, I am just looking for any way that I can access the owners manual my self without having some one like my Wife read it to me. Personally I would find reading the manual not only informative but it would be interesting. Evie on the other hand would find it most boring and tedious. Robert To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach Infowest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 80802502) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=80802502m=4e846 a19eedbc=s Not spam:
[BlindHandyMan] An Explanation of Leather Work Gloves
Hi Everyone About Leather Hand Protection Leather gloves are best for protection from rough objects, sparks and heat, and for cushioning from blows in heavy duty work requirements. All kinds of leather provide comfort, durability, dexterity, mild heat resistance and abrasion protection. These advantages make leather a traditional favorite for industrial workers. Styles Patterns * Leather Palms, Gunn Patterns - For protection from rough objects, sparks, heat and cushioning from blows in heavy duty work requirements. * Leather Palms, Clute Patterns - Greatest economy glove offering leather protection. * Drivers - Allow more dexterity when operating heavy machinery and vehicles. * Welders - Provide protection for welding and heat applications. * Mig/Tig Welders - afford a fine touch in low heat applications. Types Of Leather * Cow - Cow leather is the most commonly used leather within the glove industry due to its plentiful availability. The United States and Australia produce the majority of these hides. The advantages include comfort, durability, excellent abrasion and breathability. Chrome tanning of this leather provides greater wear and heat resistance. * Pig - Pigskin offers the greatest breathability due to the porous texture of this hide. Additionally, pigskin tends to become softer with use and withstands moisture without stiffening. When laundered, this leather will return more to its natural soft texture than other leathers. * Goat - Independent tests have proven this to be a stronger and more durable leather. The natural lanolin produced by goats help to create the softest, most abrasion resistant leather. This leather is highly recommended for applications requiring tactile sensitivity. Cuts Of Leather * Grain - Grain leather is the smooth external side of the hide. This type of leather provides durability and dexterity * Split - Split leather is the rougher internal side of the hide. The three different types of split leather is side, shoulder or belly split. Split Leather Types * Side Split - comes from the rib area of the animal. This part of the leather is more durable and provides the greatest protection because of its greater density of fibers. * Shoulder Split - is more economical than side, but less durable. The additional movement in this shoulder area creates less fibers and a more visable texture difference. * Belly Split - is the most economical; however, it has the least consistency of texture and appearance. ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions.
That's possibly the origin of the term biscuit altho the original Lamello Plate Joiner came from the Swiss. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Max Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for clearing that up. He only has half an hour and has to go pretty fast. That doesn't give much time to explain things. Also he probably assumes that people have been watching for a long time and he explained that in 1990 so there's no need to do it again. Come to think of a couple of things, the bisket looked somewhat like a cookie. What we in the U S call a cookie is a bisket to the bloody brits. Is that where the name comes from? Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Max, it wasn't a router he was using although there are router bits for cutting biscuit slots, he was using a specific tool called a biscuit joiner or also called a plate joiner. You purchase the biscuits which are actually elongated ovals made of dry and compressed beach wood. They swell when glue is applied. They come in about four sizes. The biscuit does fit or should fit pretty well half way into the slot on one side how ever it might have looked to you. As for strength, dowels and biscuits are not primarily for strengthening although they do that. The primary function is to align the joint in most applications. Dowels suffer from the direction of the grain which is usually across the grain of the mating surfaces and glue more firmly attaches in the long direction of the grain. The other main disadvantage of dowels is that accuracy is absolutely critical, not only must the holes align absolutely directly but they must be absolutely in line. Biscuit joinery allows for a little error. The plate joiner has a carbide tipped blade which is on a spring loaded travel. There is a fence, these vary from machine to machine but you can set the fence a particular distance from the slot through which the blade will protrude and will be parallel to the slot. Most will allow the fence to be tilted in both directions to allow you to cut slots in mitered assemblies and other angled fixation of differing angles. You can index off the fence or index off the bottom flat surface of the joiner. You then set the fence on the face of a board and bring the face with the slot tight against the edge of the board holding it there using a handle built for that purpose then turn on the machine and using the other hand you force the cutter through the slot and into the edge against the springs which plunges the blade into the edge of the board. Release so it runs back out with the spring assist then release the trigger so it shuts off. When I built my work bench I made up a frame rather like the shape of angle iron using three quarters plywood one edge to the face of the other and joined those with biscuits. I then mitered the corners and joined them with biscuits and clamped them up square. I might have used screws but I never would have got the corners strong that way and doweling the edges of plywood isn't all that satisfactory or probably reliable. when the biscuits get wet with glue not only does the glue bond but they swell and actually if you don't work fairly quickly they can be very difficult to set. This can be a disat\dvantage, Norm has mentioned on a couple of shows that biscuits set too close to the surface can cause slight dimpling to telegraph through the surface as the glue ages and I suppose the wood responds to changes in environmental moisture. On a very smooth finish this can be visible. So far I haven't noticed this. There is a new unit out there, called a domino joiner I believe, cuts a more rectangular hole and uses rectangular biscuits and an oscilating cutting action. These work more like floating mortise tennon joints. I am not otherwise sure of the advantages, if they index easily enough I suppose you could use them to join rails styles without cutting proper mortise tenon joints. The biscuit joiners are plenty expensive but these domino joiners are really a lot more costly. Generally the correct term is Jointer. The machine is also sometimes called a planer but more usually that refers to a device for thicknessing the face of wood or for the hand held planers more usually with a 3 inch wide cutter
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Aligning small hinges.
Unfortunately, marking lines, or rather scribing them, really doesn't work very well for a blind guy. A blind guy needs to either use some variant of the method that Dale described or make a simple jig to position the hinges, to hold them in place while the screws are installed. The jig can be as simple as a piece of hardboard with a corner removed to reveal a two sided notch that the hinge can lay in on the workpiece and be held there with double sided tape. Or another one could be made out of two pieces of wood attached at a 90 degree angle to each other. One of the strips would need 2 notches in it for the hinges to lay in as the piece is put against the edge of the board where the hinges will go. the notches need to be made in such a way as to distance the hinges from the edge of the board along the long side of the hinge and parallel to the hinge pin. The notches will also space the hinges from each other. The right angle piece of wood lies against the wide flat side of the board and positions the notches from the edge. This probably isn't a very good description, but simple jigs like this work better than trying to scribe the locations with either real squares or improvised ones. I hope this gets the thought processes working for making and using simple small jigs to accomplish these tasks. Good Luck. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Aligning small hinges. Sounds like in one area the carpenter's square is too large and in another area the try square is too small. I suggest making a rectangular piece of wood, say a 1/4-inch thick hardboard, of the appropriate size to use as a marking square. That way you could place it where needed and mark your lines from it. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: Max Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a question about aligning small hinges. My radio desk is finished except for applying the finishing coat. It will sit in front of an H V A C vent so I made a cutout in the back for the air to come through. I don't want the cold air to blow on me when I am sitting there so I saved the cutout peace and hinged it to make a trap door I can close when I want to. I couldn't get the hinges aligned right. They are close enough but I wonder if anyone has any little tricks. It is inside and the space is too confined to get a carpenter's square inside and the hinges are too far from the end wall for a trisquare to reach. This is done and it's not very obvious to someone who sees the desk but if I ever have to do this again I would like to get it right. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. Thanks Larry, I only hope I didn't leave anything significant out. I was surprised to read in one of the magazines you sent along a use of the biscuit joiner to cut grooves by sliding the unit along while running. It never crossed my mind to do so but it is a quick and should be accurate way of cutting for splines and probably even the grooves to receive drawer bottoms and other applications. Mine is a porter cable which I have had for four or five years now, it includes a small cutter for #0 biscuits which I have used for mitering frames corners. It means changing the cutter blade but pretty cool. I read another article or rather you did but the builder used it to assemble drawer boxes. quick and strong if not classic joinery. For a lot of applications though this is exactly the answer, strong, accurate and fast. Any time that list members feel I may be over stepping they should feel free to say so. I often put quite a bit of effort into writing what I think is a clear explanation or description of things I have done or have observed and I do so because I am grateful for others who have taken the trouble to inform me. It is difficult for most of us blind people to learn from observation and sometimes it is just a very simple concept or understanding which, if missed can become a block to building more learning or understanding. This is not unique to the blind but we have fewer opportunities. I just hope to speed the process for others as
Re: [BlindHandyMan] An Explanation of Leather Work Gloves
So this raises the question if the subject of foot ware has been covered or not. It may well have been, I don't recall right now. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consciousness is that annoying time between naps. - Original Message - From: Boyce, Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:48 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] An Explanation of Leather Work Gloves Hi Everyone About Leather Hand Protection Leather gloves are best for protection from rough objects, sparks and heat, and for cushioning from blows in heavy duty work requirements. All kinds of leather provide comfort, durability, dexterity, mild heat resistance and abrasion protection. These advantages make leather a traditional favorite for industrial workers. Styles Patterns * Leather Palms, Gunn Patterns - For protection from rough objects, sparks, heat and cushioning from blows in heavy duty work requirements. * Leather Palms, Clute Patterns - Greatest economy glove offering leather protection. * Drivers - Allow more dexterity when operating heavy machinery and vehicles. * Welders - Provide protection for welding and heat applications. * Mig/Tig Welders - afford a fine touch in low heat applications. Types Of Leather * Cow - Cow leather is the most commonly used leather within the glove industry due to its plentiful availability. The United States and Australia produce the majority of these hides. The advantages include comfort, durability, excellent abrasion and breathability. Chrome tanning of this leather provides greater wear and heat resistance. * Pig - Pigskin offers the greatest breathability due to the porous texture of this hide. Additionally, pigskin tends to become softer with use and withstands moisture without stiffening. When laundered, this leather will return more to its natural soft texture than other leathers. * Goat - Independent tests have proven this to be a stronger and more durable leather. The natural lanolin produced by goats help to create the softest, most abrasion resistant leather. This leather is highly recommended for applications requiring tactile sensitivity. Cuts Of Leather * Grain - Grain leather is the smooth external side of the hide. This type of leather provides durability and dexterity * Split - Split leather is the rougher internal side of the hide. The three different types of split leather is side, shoulder or belly split. Split Leather Types * Side Split - comes from the rib area of the animal. This part of the leather is more durable and provides the greatest protection because of its greater density of fibers. * Shoulder Split - is more economical than side, but less durable. The additional movement in this shoulder area creates less fibers and a more visable texture difference. * Belly Split - is the most economical; however, it has the least consistency of texture and appearance. ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] An Explanation of Leather Work Gloves
Hi Dave Yes you have a article on that there already. Regards Ray From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2007 12:38 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] An Explanation of Leather Work Gloves So this raises the question if the subject of foot ware has been covered or not. It may well have been, I don't recall right now. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:dpf%40jaws-users.com Consciousness is that annoying time between naps. - Original Message - From: Boyce, Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:Ray.Boyce%40eraring-energy.com.au To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:48 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] An Explanation of Leather Work Gloves Hi Everyone About Leather Hand Protection Leather gloves are best for protection from rough objects, sparks and heat, and for cushioning from blows in heavy duty work requirements. All kinds of leather provide comfort, durability, dexterity, mild heat resistance and abrasion protection. These advantages make leather a traditional favorite for industrial workers. Styles Patterns * Leather Palms, Gunn Patterns - For protection from rough objects, sparks, heat and cushioning from blows in heavy duty work requirements. * Leather Palms, Clute Patterns - Greatest economy glove offering leather protection. * Drivers - Allow more dexterity when operating heavy machinery and vehicles. * Welders - Provide protection for welding and heat applications. * Mig/Tig Welders - afford a fine touch in low heat applications. Types Of Leather * Cow - Cow leather is the most commonly used leather within the glove industry due to its plentiful availability. The United States and Australia produce the majority of these hides. The advantages include comfort, durability, excellent abrasion and breathability. Chrome tanning of this leather provides greater wear and heat resistance. * Pig - Pigskin offers the greatest breathability due to the porous texture of this hide. Additionally, pigskin tends to become softer with use and withstands moisture without stiffening. When laundered, this leather will return more to its natural soft texture than other leathers. * Goat - Independent tests have proven this to be a stronger and more durable leather. The natural lanolin produced by goats help to create the softest, most abrasion resistant leather. This leather is highly recommended for applications requiring tactile sensitivity. Cuts Of Leather * Grain - Grain leather is the smooth external side of the hide. This type of leather provides durability and dexterity * Split - Split leather is the rougher internal side of the hide. The three different types of split leather is side, shoulder or belly split. Split Leather Types * Side Split - comes from the rib area of the animal. This part of the leather is more durable and provides the greatest protection because of its greater density of fibers. * Shoulder Split - is more economical than side, but less durable. The additional movement in this shoulder area creates less fibers and a more visable texture difference. * Belly Split - is the most economical; however, it has the least consistency of texture and appearance. ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your
Re: [BlindHandyMan] An Explanation of Leather Work Gloves
Whoa there! There is a big mistake in this article, and I quote: * Goat - Independent tests have proven this to be a stronger and more durable leather. The natural lanolin produced by goats help to create the softest, most abrasion resistant leather. This leather is highly recommended for applications requiring tactile sensitivity. close quote. I am not questioning the attributes of kid leather, but whatever it is that causes its suppleness, it is not the natural lanolin produced by the goat. Sheep produce lanolin, . * Goats do not! The * lack of oil in the coat is the reason why goatkeepers have to provide waterproof shelter for them! Jewel - Original Message - From: Boyce, Ray To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] An Explanation of Leather Work Gloves Hi Everyone About Leather Hand Protection Leather gloves are best for protection from rough objects, sparks and heat, and for cushioning from blows in heavy duty work requirements. All kinds of leather provide comfort, durability, dexterity, mild heat resistance and abrasion protection. These advantages make leather a traditional favorite for industrial workers. Styles Patterns * Leather Palms, Gunn Patterns - For protection from rough objects, sparks, heat and cushioning from blows in heavy duty work requirements. * Leather Palms, Clute Patterns - Greatest economy glove offering leather protection. * Drivers - Allow more dexterity when operating heavy machinery and vehicles. * Welders - Provide protection for welding and heat applications. * Mig/Tig Welders - afford a fine touch in low heat applications. Types Of Leather * Cow - Cow leather is the most commonly used leather within the glove industry due to its plentiful availability. The United States and Australia produce the majority of these hides. The advantages include comfort, durability, excellent abrasion and breathability. Chrome tanning of this leather provides greater wear and heat resistance. * Pig - Pigskin offers the greatest breathability due to the porous texture of this hide. Additionally, pigskin tends to become softer with use and withstands moisture without stiffening. When laundered, this leather will return more to its natural soft texture than other leathers. * Goat - Independent tests have proven this to be a stronger and more durable leather. The natural lanolin produced by goats help to create the softest, most abrasion resistant leather. This leather is highly recommended for applications requiring tactile sensitivity. Cuts Of Leather * Grain - Grain leather is the smooth external side of the hide. This type of leather provides durability and dexterity * Split - Split leather is the rougher internal side of the hide. The three different types of split leather is side, shoulder or belly split. Split Leather Types * Side Split - comes from the rib area of the animal. This part of the leather is more durable and provides the greatest protection because of its greater density of fibers. * Shoulder Split - is more economical than side, but less durable. The additional movement in this shoulder area creates less fibers and a more visable texture difference. * Belly Split - is the most economical; however, it has the least consistency of texture and appearance. ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/757 - Release Date: 11/04/07 5:14 p.m. To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Ladies and gentlemen I need some help
I've got a question and you folks collectively are some of the most resourceful, no nonsense blind people on the Internet. I've already consulted midi-mag. I know people who aren't afraid to really re-model their kitchen, not just talk about it are the folks I at least need to boounce this off. I'm a musician. I play keyboards and synthesizers. I know how to connect the synthesizer to the computer thru midi. But that's sequencing software. That doesn't do much for you when it comes down to editing sounds. But I go all the way back to the stuff I read about before I bought my first keyboard. The fact that a synthesizer is a musical computer. The problem is ... our computers talk. There's don't. I just read some books from Bookshare about doing freaky things with X-10 modules and the like. There's another project where the are diy remote controls that can control your stereo. So there must be a way to make a home brew system so a person can have access to the innerds of synthesizers. It's obviously not easy because I've scoured the web and even book stores of music colleges are not even that helpful. That was long-winded. Thans so much for your time! gerry To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
