Re: [c-nsp] OSPF LSA Type 11

2010-04-14 Thread Ovidiu Neghina
It is a good question.
The RFC describes the scopes of the 3 opaque LSAs. LSA11 has AS scope
like LSA5. Nothing related to MPLS TE though. As far as I researched
and read  LSA10 is used in MPLS TE.

br
Ovidiu

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Shimol Shah shims...@cisco.com wrote:
 5250 obsoletes 2370

 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5250

 On 4/13/10 2:31 PM, Pritesh Patel wrote:

 rfc 2370.

 --Pritesh

 On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Ibrahim Abo Zaid
 ibrahim.aboz...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Hi

 i want to know the role of OSPF Opaque LSA Type 11 in MPLS TE ?

 thanks
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Re: [c-nsp] BGP Multi-homing

2010-04-14 Thread Ramesh Karki
Hi Bob,

I suggest you to receive full bgp routes from both your provider if your
router is capable to handle it. so that you can tune your outgoing traffic
as required. As you are receiving only default route from primary provider
and full bgp table from secondary, then it will be complicated to tune
outgoing traffic towards primary provider. Coz default route will be check
at last,if there are no specific route for the traffic on the table
Here in your scenario what you can do is: received only local route and
default route from secondary provider and increase local preference received
default route from primary ISP, so the traffic for the local route (must
specific) will go via secondary and rest to the primary.

For return traffic you can announce your prefixes prepending to secondary
provider and default to primary provider. I think this will help to achieve
your requirement.

Thank you,
Ramesh

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Tim Vollebregt
t.vollebr...@leaseweb.comwrote:

 Hi Bob,

 There are a lot of configuration options to do this.

 A simple solution for this, hereby I assume that your secondary neighbor is
 accepting (default) bgp communities.

 Primary neighbor (default route): 1.1.1.1 AS10
 Secondary neighbor (full table): 2.2.2.2 AS20
 Local AS: AS30
 Local prefixes: 3.3.3.0/24 and 4.4.4.0/24

 Create as-path acl:
 ip as-path access-list 2 permit _20$

 Create no-export access-list (specify your local/customer prefixes here):

 ip prefix-list no-export seq 1 permit 3.3.3.0/24
 ip prefix-list no-export seq 2 permit 4.4.4.0/24
 ip prefix-list no-export seq 10 deny 0.0.0.0/0 le 32

 Create route-maps:
 --inbound--
 route-map secondary-in permit 5
 match as-path 2
 set localpref 105
 route-map secondary-in permit 10
 set localpref 80

 --outbound--
 route-map secondary-out permit 5
 match ip address prefix-list no-export
 set community no-export additive
 You don't have to change anything in the configuration of your primary
 neighbor, only put the in and outbound route-maps on the bgp session:

 Router bgp 30
 Address-family ipv4
 Neighbor 2.2.2.2 send-community
 Neighbor 2.2.2.2 route-map secondary-in in
 Neighbor 2.2.2.2 route-map secondary-out out

 Please make sure you also have an normal outbound prefix list on the
 session.

 If your secondary neighbor has a lot of 'local' routes which you want to
 send traffic to, but these routes are not originated from AS20. You should
 ask them if they can specify a customer bgp community. Afterwards you can
 match that community in the inbound route-map and set a localpref of 100+ to
 it.

 Regards,

 Tim


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 Sent: dinsdag, 13 april, 2010 10:01
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 Subject: [c-nsp] BGP Multi-homing


 Turning up a backup BGP session with a secondary provider. Currently
 accepting a default route from my primary provider and will have full table
 from secondary. Would like to continue to have the primary provider as the
 preferred inbound/outbound path once i've turned up the secondary session. I
 would however like to prefer the local only routes from my secondary
 provider and have all other routes preferred through my primary. Config
 templete would be great...any help is appreciated.

 Thanks
 Bob






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Re: [c-nsp] Nagios config frontends

2010-04-14 Thread Jens Link
Eric Cables ecab...@gmail.com writes:

 Sorry if this is a bit OT, but I was wondering what configuration frontend
 people have settled on for Nagios. 

emacs (or vi) and some shell / perl 

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Re: [c-nsp] Nagios config frontends

2010-04-14 Thread Phil Mayers

On 13/04/10 21:58, Eric Cables wrote:

Sorry if this is a bit OT, but I was wondering what configuration frontend


We generate ours from our registration database (a.k.a. IPAM system - a 
postgres DB with web UI)


It's a model I can heartily endorse; it forces you to keep the 
registration DB up-to-date.

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Re: [c-nsp] Bonding multiple 3G HWIC signals?

2010-04-14 Thread Andrei-Marius Radu
Hi Stephen,

I think that Cisco is saying you should use different carries because
if you have 3-4 3G cards with services from the same carrier all those
3G cards will associate with the same wireless phone cell and that
cell may or may not have enough uplink bandwidth. For example if that
cell has 4 E1s for packet traffic that would only sum up to 8Mbps.
This should apply to one or multiple routers in the same location.

Andrei.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:36 AM, Stephen Cobb sc...@telecoast.com wrote:
 I'm curious as to whether or not Cisco's 3G HWIC's can somehow be aggregated
 (through IOS or not) in order to essentially get an Nx3G amount of bandwidth
 over a single carrier's network...haven't found any luck googling.



 Cisco says the only option is to use multiple carriers, if in the same
 router (and I'm not sure whether or not to believe that):

 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/modules/ps5949/ps7272/prod_qas0900aecd80600f5d.html



 The application is for sending HD video over wireless, and we'd need at
 least 3-4 3G signals to make this work.



 Does anyone have experience with doing something like this with one single
 router? (i.e. 2800 with multiple HWIC-3G-CDMA's)



 OR...Is the only option to buy a few 1841's with one 3G HWIC in each, and
 route everything back to our LAN?



 Any advice is greatly appreciated!

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[c-nsp] 3750X?

2010-04-14 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
Our vendor wants to do a dog  pony show on the new 3750X (and 3560X
and 2960S) switches that Cisco has just released.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10745/index.html

We're about to plonk down a big chunk of money to buy 3750G switches
to replace a lot of our older network gear.

We don't have 10G in the core (yet) so 10G uplinks aren't a big seller
for me.  The PoE+ would be nice to power the Cisco 802.11n gear that
requires more than 15 watts to energize both radios (which I don't
have anyway), but I don't know of any other gear yet that would
require the higher power...

So, before the meeting, does anyone else have opinions or questions
that I should be asking?

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Re: [c-nsp] 3750X?

2010-04-14 Thread John Exum
Under the very clear heading of personal opinion, I have always tried to buy
the best equipment I could.  I tend to have to use equipment longer than I
would normally like.  I know if I were ordering equipment for a new building
on campus today, I would would want the PoE+ and the 10G option for the
future needs I will expect the equipment to cover for the next five or six
years.  Also the shared power is a cool sounding idea.  The only problem I
ever had out of our 3750 stacks were power issues.

As far as questions to ask.  I would want my vendor to tell me when I could
expect to see the equipment.  In my environment here I only order when I
need something.  At best I can keep one or two switches on the shelf for
emergencies.  With Cisco currently, I am having to wait way longer than I
can (politically speaking) for the equipment.  I have even had it suggested
from my administration that other companies networking gear may not be as
good as Cisco's; but, it can be ordered and arrive at a reasonable time.  I
have been bit several times ordering a new product to be hit with the
dreaded 'new product hold'.  I am a little cynical about it...

John L. Exum
Network Manager
Harding University


On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote:

 Our vendor wants to do a dog  pony show on the new 3750X (and 3560X
 and 2960S) switches that Cisco has just released.

 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10745/index.html

 We're about to plonk down a big chunk of money to buy 3750G switches
 to replace a lot of our older network gear.

 We don't have 10G in the core (yet) so 10G uplinks aren't a big seller
 for me.  The PoE+ would be nice to power the Cisco 802.11n gear that
 requires more than 15 watts to energize both radios (which I don't
 have anyway), but I don't know of any other gear yet that would
 require the higher power...

 So, before the meeting, does anyone else have opinions or questions
 that I should be asking?

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Re: [c-nsp] 3750X?

2010-04-14 Thread Saxon Jones
Having the ability to place two power supplies in the chassis and also
having the power stacking to share power supplies across multiple chassis
really has me interested. The rest I mostly perceive as fluff, even if it is
nice fluff.

On 14 April 2010 07:57, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote:

 Our vendor wants to do a dog  pony show on the new 3750X (and 3560X
 and 2960S) switches that Cisco has just released.

 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10745/index.html

 We're about to plonk down a big chunk of money to buy 3750G switches
 to replace a lot of our older network gear.

 We don't have 10G in the core (yet) so 10G uplinks aren't a big seller
 for me.  The PoE+ would be nice to power the Cisco 802.11n gear that
 requires more than 15 watts to energize both radios (which I don't
 have anyway), but I don't know of any other gear yet that would
 require the higher power...

 So, before the meeting, does anyone else have opinions or questions
 that I should be asking?

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[c-nsp] Strange ME3400 PPS Limit

2010-04-14 Thread Jeremy Parr
I have an ME3400 running 12.2(46)SE that will not pass (much) more
than 1000pps through its copper gig port. The interface counters hover
around 1000pps tx/rx, while the bps rate fluctuates (presumable due to
the variable packet sizes getting thrown at it). There are no service
policys or rate limits applied to any of the interfaces. Any thoughts?

  5 minute input rate 1681000 bits/sec, 879 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 7545000 bits/sec, 1012 packets/sec
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[c-nsp] Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco Secure Desktop ActiveX Control Code Execution Vulnerability

2010-04-14 Thread Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco Secure Desktop ActiveX Control Code
Execution Vulnerability

Advisory ID: cisco-sa-20100414-csd

Revision 1.0

+-

Summary
===

Cisco Secure Desktop contains a vulnerable ActiveX control that could
allow an attacker to execute arbitrary code with the privileges of
the user who is currently logged into the affected system. Cisco has
released a free software update that addresses this vulnerability.
There is a workaround that mitigates this vulnerability.

This advisory is posted at:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20100414-csd.shtml

Affected Products
=

Vulnerable Products
+--

Cisco Secure Desktop versions prior to 3.5.841 are affected.

Products Confirmed Not Vulnerable
+

No other Cisco products are currently known to be affected by this
vulnerability.

Details
===

A Cisco-signed ActiveX control that is used by Cisco Secure Desktop
fails to properly verify the integrity of an executable file that is
used by the Cisco Secure Desktop installation process. If an attacker
can entice a user to visit an attacker controlled web page, the
vulnerable ActiveX control could be invoked to download an
attacker-modified package. The package could contain a malicious
executable file that executes with the privileges of the affected
user. A successful exploit could result in a complete compromise of a
vulnerable system. This vulnerability is documented in Cisco Bug ID 
CSCta25876 and has been assigned the Common Vulnerabilities and
Exposures (CVE) ID CVE-2010-0589.

Vulnerability Scoring Details
=

Cisco has provided scores for the vulnerabilities in this advisory
based on the Common Vulnerability Scoring System (CVSS). The CVSS
scoring in this Security Advisory is done in accordance with CVSS
version 2.0.

CVSS is a standards-based scoring method that conveys vulnerability
severity and helps determine urgency and priority of response.

Cisco has provided a base and temporal score. Customers can then
compute environmental scores to assist in determining the impact of
the vulnerability in individual networks.

Cisco has provided an FAQ to answer additional questions regarding
CVSS at:

http://www.cisco.com/web/about/security/intelligence/cvss-qandas.html

Cisco has also provided a CVSS calculator to help compute the
environmental impact for individual networks at:

http://intellishield.cisco.com/security/alertmanager/cvss

CSCta25876

CVSS Base Score - 9.3

Access Vector   - Network
Access Complexity   - Medium
Authentication  - None
Confidentiality Impact  - Complete
Integrity Impact- Complete
Availability Impact - Complete

CVSS Temporal Score - 7.7

Exploitability  - Functional
Remediation Level   - Official-Fix
Report Confidence   - Confirmed

Impact
==

Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could result in a
complete compromise of the affected system.

Software Versions and Fixes
===

When considering software upgrades, also consult
http://www.cisco.com/go/psirt and any subsequent advisories to
determine exposure and a complete upgrade solution.

In all cases, customers should exercise caution to be certain the
devices to be upgraded contain sufficient memory and that current
hardware and software configurations will continue to be supported
properly by the new release. If the information is not clear, contact
the Cisco Technical Assistance Center (TAC) or your contracted
maintenance provider for assistance.

Cisco Secure Desktop version 3.5.841 can be downloaded at the
following link:

http://tools.cisco.com/support/downloads/go/ImageList.x?relVer=3.5.841mdfid=280277835sftType=CSD+package-+ASA+DistributionoptPlat=nodecount=2edesignator=nullmodelName=Cisco+Secure+DesktoptreeMdfId=268438162treeName=Securitymodifmdfid=nullimname=hybrid=imst=lr=Y

Note: Cisco Secure Desktop versions 3.0 and 3.1 are only supported
for operation with certain versions of Cisco IOS software and Cisco
Adaptive Security Appliance (ASA) software version 7.x. Cisco Secure
Desktop versions 3.2 through 3.5 are only supported for operation
with Cisco ASA software version 8.x. Customers running Cisco Secure
Desktop versions 3.2 through 3.5 with a supported Cisco ASA software
version are encouraged to upgrade to Cisco Secure Desktop version
3.5.841.

Customers with active software licenses for Cisco Secure Desktop
versions 3.0 and 3.1 should send email to the following address for
instructions on migrating to non-vulnerable software:

csd-activex-inqu...@cisco.com

Workarounds
===

Administrators can mitigate this vulnerability by using the kill bit
feature of Microsoft Windows to prevent the loading and execution of
the vulnerable ActiveX control. Administrators must use the Class
identifier (CLSID

Re: [c-nsp] 3750X?

2010-04-14 Thread Andrew Tolstykh
Still missing one killer feature that I would really like to see present in the 
access/distribution layers: NetFlow

On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Saxon Jones wrote:

 Having the ability to place two power supplies in the chassis and also
 having the power stacking to share power supplies across multiple chassis
 really has me interested. The rest I mostly perceive as fluff, even if it is
 nice fluff.
 
 On 14 April 2010 07:57, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote:
 
 Our vendor wants to do a dog  pony show on the new 3750X (and 3560X
 and 2960S) switches that Cisco has just released.
 
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10745/index.html
 
 We're about to plonk down a big chunk of money to buy 3750G switches
 to replace a lot of our older network gear.
 
 We don't have 10G in the core (yet) so 10G uplinks aren't a big seller
 for me.  The PoE+ would be nice to power the Cisco 802.11n gear that
 requires more than 15 watts to energize both radios (which I don't
 have anyway), but I don't know of any other gear yet that would
 require the higher power...
 
 So, before the meeting, does anyone else have opinions or questions
 that I should be asking?
 
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Re: [c-nsp] 3750X?

2010-04-14 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 14/04/2010 17:30, Andrew Tolstykh wrote:
 Still missing one killer feature that I would really like to see present
 in the access/distribution layers: NetFlow

and sflow for l2 stuff.

Nick
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Re: [c-nsp] Strange ME3400 PPS Limit

2010-04-14 Thread Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
You're doing or testing something wrong. (It's not possible to say
what with the limited information you provide). The ME-3400 will
happily do line rate.

-A

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:57:47 -0400, you wrote:

 I have an ME3400 running 12.2(46)SE that will not pass (much) more
 than 1000pps through its copper gig port. The interface counters hover
 around 1000pps tx/rx, while the bps rate fluctuates (presumable due to
 the variable packet sizes getting thrown at it). There are no service
 policys or rate limits applied to any of the interfaces. Any thoughts?
 
   5 minute input rate 1681000 bits/sec, 879 packets/sec
   5 minute output rate 7545000 bits/sec, 1012 packets/sec

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Re: [c-nsp] Strange ME3400 PPS Limit

2010-04-14 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 14 April 2010 11:57, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have an ME3400 running 12.2(46)SE that will not pass (much) more
 than 1000pps through its copper gig port. The interface counters hover
 around 1000pps tx/rx, while the bps rate fluctuates (presumable due to
 the variable packet sizes getting thrown at it). There are no service
 policys or rate limits applied to any of the interfaces. Any thoughts?

  5 minute input rate 1681000 bits/sec, 879 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 7545000 bits/sec, 1012 packets/sec

I am also seeing the following in the logs

%PLATFORM_UCAST-6-PREFIX:  One or more, more specific prefixes could
not be programmed into TCAM and are being covered by a less specific
prefix

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Re: [c-nsp] Strange ME3400 PPS Limit

2010-04-14 Thread Rubens Kuhl
Which means the 3400 CPU and not the switching engine is forwarding
the packets... how many routes are you trying to feed the 3400 ?


Rubens



On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 14 April 2010 11:57, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have an ME3400 running 12.2(46)SE that will not pass (much) more
 than 1000pps through its copper gig port. The interface counters hover
 around 1000pps tx/rx, while the bps rate fluctuates (presumable due to
 the variable packet sizes getting thrown at it). There are no service
 policys or rate limits applied to any of the interfaces. Any thoughts?

  5 minute input rate 1681000 bits/sec, 879 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 7545000 bits/sec, 1012 packets/sec

 I am also seeing the following in the logs

 %PLATFORM_UCAST-6-PREFIX:  One or more, more specific prefixes could
 not be programmed into TCAM and are being covered by a less specific
 prefix

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Re: [c-nsp] Strange ME3400 PPS Limit

2010-04-14 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 14/04/2010 17:40, Jeremy Parr wrote:
 I am also seeing the following in the logs
 
 %PLATFORM_UCAST-6-PREFIX:  One or more, more specific prefixes could
 not be programmed into TCAM and are being covered by a less specific
 prefix

Congratulations, you have managed to turn your ME3400 into a C2500 by
throwing too many routing entries at the FIB :-D

Try cutting down on the number of prefixes the box is holding.  If it's
dealing with a full DFZ, then cut that out and use some defaults.  If this
is being caused by a large interior network, then you need to segment /
confederate / summarise / whatever in order to drop the number of prefixes.

If it's related to having more VRFs than you can shake a stick at, then you
need to cut down on that.

Nick

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Re: [c-nsp] Strange ME3400 PPS Limit

2010-04-14 Thread Dmitry Valdov

Hello,

We use more than 100 of ME3400 and ME3400G for a long time.. 
We have never seen such problems. For example:


  5 minute input rate 5544000 bits/sec, 2253 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 3593000 bits/sec, 2006 packets/sec

This is ME3400 with 12.2(35)SE1

  Full-duplex, 1000Mb/s, link type is auto, media type is 10/100/1000BaseTX
SFP



On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, Jeremy Parr wrote:


I have an ME3400 running 12.2(46)SE that will not pass (much) more
than 1000pps through its copper gig port. The interface counters hover
around 1000pps tx/rx, while the bps rate fluctuates (presumable due to
the variable packet sizes getting thrown at it). There are no service
policys or rate limits applied to any of the interfaces. Any thoughts?

 5 minute input rate 1681000 bits/sec, 879 packets/sec
 5 minute output rate 7545000 bits/sec, 1012 packets/sec


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Re: [c-nsp] Strange ME3400 PPS Limit

2010-04-14 Thread Everton da Silva Marques
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:40:46PM -0400, Jeremy Parr wrote:
 On 14 April 2010 11:57, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have an ME3400 running 12.2(46)SE that will not pass (much) more
  than 1000pps through its copper gig port. The interface counters hover
  around 1000pps tx/rx, while the bps rate fluctuates (presumable due to
  the variable packet sizes getting thrown at it). There are no service
  policys or rate limits applied to any of the interfaces. Any thoughts?
 
  ?5 minute input rate 1681000 bits/sec, 879 packets/sec
  ?5 minute output rate 7545000 bits/sec, 1012 packets/sec
 
 I am also seeing the following in the logs
 
 %PLATFORM_UCAST-6-PREFIX:  One or more, more specific prefixes could
 not be programmed into TCAM and are being covered by a less specific
 prefix

I hit that warning as well, IOS is 12.2(53)SE,
and the routing table is not huge. If you ever
find a clue, let me know...

ME3400#sh ip route summary
IP routing table name is Default-IP-Routing-Table(0)
IP routing table maximum-paths is 32
Route SourceNetworksSubnets OverheadMemory (bytes)
connected   1   3   256 608
static  0   2   192 304
internal3   3516
Total   4   5   448 4428
ME3400#

ME3400#sh ip cef summary
IPv4 CEF is enabled for distributed and running
VRF Default:
 30 prefixes (30/0 fwd/non-fwd)
 Table id 0
 Database epoch:2 (30 entries at this epoch)

ME3400#

Cheers,
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Re: [c-nsp] Strange ME3400 PPS Limit

2010-04-14 Thread Ian Cox
How may arp entries is the device learning? Each one of them will
translate to a /32 in the hardware FIB.


Ian

On 4/14/10 10:41 AM, Everton da Silva Marques wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:40:46PM -0400, Jeremy Parr wrote:
   
 On 14 April 2010 11:57, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have an ME3400 running 12.2(46)SE that will not pass (much) more
 than 1000pps through its copper gig port. The interface counters hover
 around 1000pps tx/rx, while the bps rate fluctuates (presumable due to
 the variable packet sizes getting thrown at it). There are no service
 policys or rate limits applied to any of the interfaces. Any thoughts?

 ?5 minute input rate 1681000 bits/sec, 879 packets/sec
 ?5 minute output rate 7545000 bits/sec, 1012 packets/sec
   
 I am also seeing the following in the logs

 %PLATFORM_UCAST-6-PREFIX:  One or more, more specific prefixes could
 not be programmed into TCAM and are being covered by a less specific
 prefix
 
 I hit that warning as well, IOS is 12.2(53)SE,
 and the routing table is not huge. If you ever
 find a clue, let me know...

 ME3400#sh ip route summary
 IP routing table name is Default-IP-Routing-Table(0)
 IP routing table maximum-paths is 32
 Route SourceNetworksSubnets OverheadMemory (bytes)
 connected   1   3   256 608
 static  0   2   192 304
 internal3   3516
 Total   4   5   448 4428
 ME3400#

 ME3400#sh ip cef summary
 IPv4 CEF is enabled for distributed and running
 VRF Default:
  30 prefixes (30/0 fwd/non-fwd)
  Table id 0
  Database epoch:2 (30 entries at this epoch)

 ME3400#

 Cheers,
 Everton
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Re: [c-nsp] Strange ME3400 PPS Limit

2010-04-14 Thread Everton da Silva Marques

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 01:59:02PM -0400, Jean-Francois Levesque wrote:
 What is the output of
 
 # sh sdm prefer

ME3400#sh sdm prefer
 The current template is layer-2 template.
 The selected template optimizes the resources in
 the switch to support this level of features for
 8 routed interfaces and 1024 VLANs.

  number of unicast mac addresses:  8K
  number of IPv4 IGMP groups:   1K
  number of IPv4 multicast routes:  0
  number of IPv4 unicast routes:0
  number of IPv4 policy based routing aces: 0
  number of IPv4/MAC qos aces:  0.5K
  number of IPv4/MAC security aces: 1K

ME3400#

Everton

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Re: [c-nsp] Strange ME3400 PPS Limit

2010-04-14 Thread Jean-Francois Levesque
You are using layer-2 template with no place in the TCAM for ip 
routes. If you are using this switch as a L3 switch, take a look at the 
default template.


For more info: 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/metro/me3400/software/release/12.2_52_se/configuration/guide/swsdm.html


JF

Everton da Silva Marques wrote:

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 01:59:02PM -0400, Jean-Francois Levesque wrote:

What is the output of

# sh sdm prefer


ME3400#sh sdm prefer
 The current template is layer-2 template.
 The selected template optimizes the resources in
 the switch to support this level of features for
 8 routed interfaces and 1024 VLANs.

  number of unicast mac addresses:  8K
  number of IPv4 IGMP groups:   1K
  number of IPv4 multicast routes:  0
  number of IPv4 unicast routes:0
  number of IPv4 policy based routing aces: 0
  number of IPv4/MAC qos aces:  0.5K
  number of IPv4/MAC security aces: 1K

ME3400#

Everton


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Re: [c-nsp] Strange ME3400 PPS Limit

2010-04-14 Thread Jean-Francois Levesque

What is the output of

# sh sdm prefer

JF


Everton da Silva Marques wrote:

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:40:46PM -0400, Jeremy Parr wrote:

On 14 April 2010 11:57, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote:

I have an ME3400 running 12.2(46)SE that will not pass (much) more
than 1000pps through its copper gig port. The interface counters hover
around 1000pps tx/rx, while the bps rate fluctuates (presumable due to
the variable packet sizes getting thrown at it). There are no service
policys or rate limits applied to any of the interfaces. Any thoughts?

?5 minute input rate 1681000 bits/sec, 879 packets/sec
?5 minute output rate 7545000 bits/sec, 1012 packets/sec

I am also seeing the following in the logs

%PLATFORM_UCAST-6-PREFIX:  One or more, more specific prefixes could
not be programmed into TCAM and are being covered by a less specific
prefix


I hit that warning as well, IOS is 12.2(53)SE,
and the routing table is not huge. If you ever
find a clue, let me know...

ME3400#sh ip route summary
IP routing table name is Default-IP-Routing-Table(0)
IP routing table maximum-paths is 32
Route SourceNetworksSubnets OverheadMemory (bytes)
connected   1   3   256 608
static  0   2   192 304
internal3   3516
Total   4   5   448 4428
ME3400#

ME3400#sh ip cef summary
IPv4 CEF is enabled for distributed and running
VRF Default:
 30 prefixes (30/0 fwd/non-fwd)
 Table id 0
 Database epoch:2 (30 entries at this epoch)

ME3400#

Cheers,
Everton
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Re: [c-nsp] Strange ME3400 PPS Limit

2010-04-14 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
This message is printed even with a single default route, if you happen 
to use the l2 sdm template.


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Everton da Silva Marques wrote on 14/04/2010 20:41:

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:40:46PM -0400, Jeremy Parr wrote:
   

On 14 April 2010 11:57, Jeremy Parrjeremyp...@gmail.com  wrote:
 

I have an ME3400 running 12.2(46)SE that will not pass (much) more
than 1000pps through its copper gig port. The interface counters hover
around 1000pps tx/rx, while the bps rate fluctuates (presumable due to
the variable packet sizes getting thrown at it). There are no service
policys or rate limits applied to any of the interfaces. Any thoughts?

?5 minute input rate 1681000 bits/sec, 879 packets/sec
?5 minute output rate 7545000 bits/sec, 1012 packets/sec
   

I am also seeing the following in the logs

%PLATFORM_UCAST-6-PREFIX:  One or more, more specific prefixes could
not be programmed into TCAM and are being covered by a less specific
prefix
 

I hit that warning as well, IOS is 12.2(53)SE,
and the routing table is not huge. If you ever
find a clue, let me know...

ME3400#sh ip route summary
IP routing table name is Default-IP-Routing-Table(0)
IP routing table maximum-paths is 32
Route SourceNetworksSubnets OverheadMemory (bytes)
connected   1   3   256 608
static  0   2   192 304
internal3   3516
Total   4   5   448 4428
ME3400#

ME3400#sh ip cef summary
IPv4 CEF is enabled for distributed and running
VRF Default:
  30 prefixes (30/0 fwd/non-fwd)
  Table id 0
  Database epoch:2 (30 entries at this epoch)

ME3400#

Cheers,
Everton
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Re: [c-nsp] OSPF LSA Type 11

2010-04-14 Thread Leah Lynch (Contractor)
Opaque LSA types 9-11 are used for TE reachability. I tried to google this, but 
didn't find any hits. I think the best reference for this area is Eric Osborn's 
RSVP-TE book, its excellent. To be honest, the best way to learn this is to try 
it out in a lab, it is just not very well documented. You can also try googling 
OSPF-TE.

Here's one tiny description:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk436/tk428/technologies_configuration_example09186a0080093fd0.shtml

Leah

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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OSPF LSA Type 11

It is a good question.
The RFC describes the scopes of the 3 opaque LSAs. LSA11 has AS scope
like LSA5. Nothing related to MPLS TE though. As far as I researched
and read  LSA10 is used in MPLS TE.

br
Ovidiu

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Shimol Shah shims...@cisco.com wrote:
 5250 obsoletes 2370

 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5250

 On 4/13/10 2:31 PM, Pritesh Patel wrote:

 rfc 2370.

 --Pritesh

 On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Ibrahim Abo Zaid
 ibrahim.aboz...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Hi

 i want to know the role of OSPF Opaque LSA Type 11 in MPLS TE ?

 thanks
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Re: [c-nsp] Strange ME3400 PPS Limit

2010-04-14 Thread Everton da Silva Marques
That's it! Thanks a lot!

Everton

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 02:09:03PM -0400, Jean-Francois Levesque wrote:
 You are using layer-2 template with no place in the TCAM for ip 
 routes. If you are using this switch as a L3 switch, take a look at the 
 default template.
 
 For more info: 
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/metro/me3400/software/release/12.2_52_se/configuration/guide/swsdm.html
 
 JF
 
 Everton da Silva Marques wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 01:59:02PM -0400, Jean-Francois Levesque wrote:
 What is the output of
 
 # sh sdm prefer
 
 ME3400#sh sdm prefer
  The current template is layer-2 template.
  The selected template optimizes the resources in
  the switch to support this level of features for
  8 routed interfaces and 1024 VLANs.
 
   number of unicast mac addresses:  8K
   number of IPv4 IGMP groups:   1K
   number of IPv4 multicast routes:  0
   number of IPv4 unicast routes:0
   number of IPv4 policy based routing aces: 0
   number of IPv4/MAC qos aces:  0.5K
   number of IPv4/MAC security aces: 1K
 
 ME3400#
 
 Everton
 
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[c-nsp] bgp maximum-paths

2010-04-14 Thread Chris Gotstein
We are a multi-homed ISP with connections to 2 different providers (AS
Numbers)  Does the bgp maximum-paths 2 command have any effect on load
balancing between the 2 connections since they are different AS's or
does that command only work when you have multiple paths to the same AS?

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Re: [c-nsp] cost community alternatives

2010-04-14 Thread Pan vangels


Thanks Luan.
I tried indeed and it worked. 
However, since offset-list actually modifies the metric and all those ext eigrp 
routes are still viewable with an AD of 170, how does it happen for them to be 
preferable over internal eigrp ones??
Finally what is the difference of an offset-list when compared to a route-map 
setting a low metric for external routes while redistributing from ebgp to 
eigrp?
Cheers,
Pan



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Try using the offset list command.

Regards,

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Chesapeake NetCraftsmen, LLC.



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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:57 PM
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] cost community alternatives



If 1) ebgp is used as PE-CE protocol, 2) eigrp is used into customer's
network, and 3) a backdoor link exists between CE routers, is there any way
of external eigrp routes coming from ebgp into eigrp to be prefered over
normal eigrp routes advertised through the backdoor link?
Distance command would do the trick but this has to be defined on all
internal customer routes.
On the other way cost community is not extendable over an ebgp session...

Thnx,
Pan
  
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Re: [c-nsp] bgp maximum-paths

2010-04-14 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost
 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-
 boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Chris Gotstein
 Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:04 PM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] bgp maximum-paths
 
 We are a multi-homed ISP with connections to 2 different providers (AS
 Numbers)  Does the bgp maximum-paths 2 command have any effect on load
 balancing between the 2 connections since they are different AS's or
 does that command only work when you have multiple paths to the same
 AS?
 
It's just for 2 connections to the same upstream AS.

Mike

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Re: [c-nsp] bgp maximum-paths

2010-04-14 Thread MrPaul
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote:

 We are a multi-homed ISP with connections to 2 different providers (AS
 Numbers)  Does the bgp maximum-paths 2 command have any effect on load
 balancing between the 2 connections since they are different AS's or
 does that command only work when you have multiple paths to the same AS?


Taken from
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk365/technologies_configuration_example09186a00800945bf.shtml

By default, BGP chooses one best path among the possible equal-cost paths
that are learned from one AS. However, you can change the maximum number of
parallel equal-cost paths that are allowed. In order to make this change,
include the maximum-paths paths  command under the BGP configuration. Use a
number between 1 and 6 for the paths  argument.

That feature is only of use if you are dual-homed to the same AS.
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Re: [c-nsp] bgp maximum-paths

2010-04-14 Thread Chris Gotstein
Does this seem like a valid way to load balance?

http://ccnalab.net/bgp-routing/bgp-load-sharing-2-isp/

   
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On 4/14/2010 4:23 PM, MrPaul wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
 mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
 
 We are a multi-homed ISP with connections to 2 different providers (AS
 Numbers)  Does the bgp maximum-paths 2 command have any effect on load
 balancing between the 2 connections since they are different AS's or
 does that command only work when you have multiple paths to the same AS?
 
 
 Taken from
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk365/technologies_configuration_example09186a00800945bf.shtml
 
 By default, BGP chooses one best path among the possible equal-cost
 paths that are learned from one AS. However, you can change the maximum
 number of parallel equal-cost paths that are allowed. In order to make
 this change, include the maximum-paths paths  command under the BGP
 configuration. Use a number between 1 and 6 for the paths  argument.
 
 That feature is only of use if you are dual-homed to the same AS.
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Re: [c-nsp] cost community alternatives

2010-04-14 Thread Kenny Sallee
What if you used a different routing protocol on the backdoor link and
redistributed (carefully) between EIGRP and the diff routing protocol on the
backdoor router at each location?  You'd have external EIGRP routes
everywhere then and could create different seed metrics at the MPLS border
(CE router) and on the backdoor routers to automagically prefer one path
over the other.   You'd have to tag routes at points of redistribution and
filter them on CE router (keep site B's routes from being advertised via BGP
on CE router at site A and vice versa for example).  A little messy but
works.

Kenny

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Pan vangels panvang...@hotmail.com wrote:



 Thanks Luan.
 I tried indeed and it worked.
 However, since offset-list actually modifies the metric and all those ext
 eigrp routes are still viewable with an AD of 170, how does it happen for
 them to be preferable over internal eigrp ones??
 Finally what is the difference of an offset-list when compared to a
 route-map setting a low metric for external routes while redistributing from
 ebgp to eigrp?
 Cheers,
 Pan



 -




 Try using the offset list command.

 Regards,

 -
 Luan Nguyen
 Chesapeake NetCraftsmen, LLC.
 


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 From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
 [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Pan vangels
 Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:57 PM
 To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] cost community alternatives



 If 1) ebgp is used as PE-CE protocol, 2) eigrp is used into customer's
 network, and 3) a backdoor link exists between CE routers, is there any way
 of external eigrp routes coming from ebgp into eigrp to be prefered over
 normal eigrp routes advertised through the backdoor link?
 Distance command would do the trick but this has to be defined on all
 internal customer routes.
 On the other way cost community is not extendable over an ebgp session...

 Thnx,
 Pan

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Re: [c-nsp] bgp maximum-paths

2010-04-14 Thread Bill Blackford
Phil Smith has some good introductory slides on the nanog archive. There are 
lots of tools for attempting to influence the return path of your traffic. 
(Assuming this is the load balancing you're trying to do). Selective 
prepending, announcing sub-aggregates along with your full aggregate, etc. 

-b


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To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] bgp maximum-paths

Does this seem like a valid way to load balance?

http://ccnalab.net/bgp-routing/bgp-load-sharing-2-isp/

   
Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
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On 4/14/2010 4:23 PM, MrPaul wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
 mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
 
 We are a multi-homed ISP with connections to 2 different providers (AS
 Numbers)  Does the bgp maximum-paths 2 command have any effect on load
 balancing between the 2 connections since they are different AS's or
 does that command only work when you have multiple paths to the same AS?
 
 
 Taken from
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk365/technologies_configuration_example09186a00800945bf.shtml
 
 By default, BGP chooses one best path among the possible equal-cost
 paths that are learned from one AS. However, you can change the maximum
 number of parallel equal-cost paths that are allowed. In order to make
 this change, include the maximum-paths paths  command under the BGP
 configuration. Use a number between 1 and 6 for the paths  argument.
 
 That feature is only of use if you are dual-homed to the same AS.
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Re: [c-nsp] bgp maximum-paths

2010-04-14 Thread MrPaul
Are you wanting to load balance inbound, outbound, or both?

Without knowing all the details the cleanest solution would be to split your
address space in half.  Then send one half to provider A and the other half
to provider B.  Also send the entire network block to both provider A  B
for backup purposes.  The only issue here is you need to hope that you have
enough address space to support this.  That way under normal circumstances
1/2 your IP space will come in provider A while the other half will come
provider B.

For outbound load balancing you'll probably need to take full routes and
then do something like prefer odd addresses out provider A and even out
provider B.  You may find that taking full routes will balance enough.
Typical customers don't bother load balancing outbound traffic as there
isn't much.

Paul

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote:

 Does this seem like a valid way to load balance?

 http://ccnalab.net/bgp-routing/bgp-load-sharing-2-isp/

    
 Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
 http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com

 On 4/14/2010 4:23 PM, MrPaul wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
  mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
 
  We are a multi-homed ISP with connections to 2 different providers
 (AS
  Numbers)  Does the bgp maximum-paths 2 command have any effect on
 load
  balancing between the 2 connections since they are different AS's or
  does that command only work when you have multiple paths to the same
 AS?
 
 
  Taken from
 
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk365/technologies_configuration_example09186a00800945bf.shtml
 
  By default, BGP chooses one best path among the possible equal-cost
  paths that are learned from one AS. However, you can change the maximum
  number of parallel equal-cost paths that are allowed. In order to make
  this change, include the maximum-paths paths  command under the BGP
  configuration. Use a number between 1 and 6 for the paths  argument.
 
  That feature is only of use if you are dual-homed to the same AS.
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Re: [c-nsp] bgp maximum-paths

2010-04-14 Thread Chris Gotstein
It's inbound i'm mostly concerned with.  I'm taking full routes from
both providers.  Paths to both a relatively equal, so the path with the
lowest ID is winning, causing it to be overloaded.

   
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On 4/14/2010 4:43 PM, MrPaul wrote:
 Are you wanting to load balance inbound, outbound, or both?
 
 Without knowing all the details the cleanest solution would be to split
 your address space in half.  Then send one half to provider A and the
 other half to provider B.  Also send the entire network block to both
 provider A  B for backup purposes.  The only issue here is you need to
 hope that you have enough address space to support this.  That way under
 normal circumstances 1/2 your IP space will come in provider A while the
 other half will come provider B.
 
 For outbound load balancing you'll probably need to take full routes and
 then do something like prefer odd addresses out provider A and even out
 provider B.  You may find that taking full routes will balance enough. 
 Typical customers don't bother load balancing outbound traffic as there
 isn't much.
 
 Paul
 
 On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
 mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
 
 Does this seem like a valid way to load balance?
 
 http://ccnalab.net/bgp-routing/bgp-load-sharing-2-isp/
 
    
 Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
 http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
 mailto:ch...@uplogon.com
 
 On 4/14/2010 4:23 PM, MrPaul wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
 mailto:ch...@uplogon.com
  mailto:ch...@uplogon.com mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
 
  We are a multi-homed ISP with connections to 2 different
 providers (AS
  Numbers)  Does the bgp maximum-paths 2 command have any effect
 on load
  balancing between the 2 connections since they are different
 AS's or
  does that command only work when you have multiple paths to
 the same AS?
 
 
  Taken from
 
 
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk365/technologies_configuration_example09186a00800945bf.shtml
 
  By default, BGP chooses one best path among the possible equal-cost
  paths that are learned from one AS. However, you can change the
 maximum
  number of parallel equal-cost paths that are allowed. In order to make
  this change, include the maximum-paths paths  command under the BGP
  configuration. Use a number between 1 and 6 for the paths  argument.
 
  That feature is only of use if you are dual-homed to the same AS.
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Re: [c-nsp] bgp maximum-paths

2010-04-14 Thread mhernand1
Pick the top as numbers, set local-pref higher on the other link. Instant 
traffic management.


Manolo
-Original Message-
From: Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:48:06 
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net  
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] bgp maximum-paths

It's inbound i'm mostly concerned with.  I'm taking full routes from
both providers.  Paths to both a relatively equal, so the path with the
lowest ID is winning, causing it to be overloaded.

   
Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com

On 4/14/2010 4:43 PM, MrPaul wrote:
 Are you wanting to load balance inbound, outbound, or both?
 
 Without knowing all the details the cleanest solution would be to split
 your address space in half.  Then send one half to provider A and the
 other half to provider B.  Also send the entire network block to both
 provider A  B for backup purposes.  The only issue here is you need to
 hope that you have enough address space to support this.  That way under
 normal circumstances 1/2 your IP space will come in provider A while the
 other half will come provider B.
 
 For outbound load balancing you'll probably need to take full routes and
 then do something like prefer odd addresses out provider A and even out
 provider B.  You may find that taking full routes will balance enough. 
 Typical customers don't bother load balancing outbound traffic as there
 isn't much.
 
 Paul
 
 On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
 mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
 
 Does this seem like a valid way to load balance?
 
 http://ccnalab.net/bgp-routing/bgp-load-sharing-2-isp/
 
    
 Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
 http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
 mailto:ch...@uplogon.com
 
 On 4/14/2010 4:23 PM, MrPaul wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
 mailto:ch...@uplogon.com
  mailto:ch...@uplogon.com mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
 
  We are a multi-homed ISP with connections to 2 different
 providers (AS
  Numbers)  Does the bgp maximum-paths 2 command have any effect
 on load
  balancing between the 2 connections since they are different
 AS's or
  does that command only work when you have multiple paths to
 the same AS?
 
 
  Taken from
 
 
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk365/technologies_configuration_example09186a00800945bf.shtml
 
  By default, BGP chooses one best path among the possible equal-cost
  paths that are learned from one AS. However, you can change the
 maximum
  number of parallel equal-cost paths that are allowed. In order to make
  this change, include the maximum-paths paths  command under the BGP
  configuration. Use a number between 1 and 6 for the paths  argument.
 
  That feature is only of use if you are dual-homed to the same AS.
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Re: [c-nsp] Bonding multiple 3G HWIC signals?

2010-04-14 Thread Aaron Glenn
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Andrei-Marius Radu andr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Stephen,

 I think that Cisco is saying you should use different carries because
 if you have 3-4 3G cards with services from the same carrier all those
 3G cards will associate with the same wireless phone cell and that
 cell may or may not have enough uplink bandwidth. For example if that
 cell has 4 E1s for packet traffic that would only sum up to 8Mbps.
 This should apply to one or multiple routers in the same location.

IANAWWANE*, but I'd be curious to know just how unique cell cites are
to a carrier in dense/interesting locations; from my small, cursory
knowledge of cell sites and associated backhaul archs, it's more
GSM/CDMA than Carrier A/Carrier B...and even then...

regards,
aaron.glenn


*I am not a wireless WAN engineer
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Re: [c-nsp] bgp maximum-paths

2010-04-14 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 16:26 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote:
 Does this seem like a valid way to load balance?
 
 http://ccnalab.net/bgp-routing/bgp-load-sharing-2-isp/

(For the lazy on the list: The document explains prepending your own AS
on an inbound route-map from each provider, thus making the routes
appear from same AS.)

If it works (the example tends to say it does) it would balance your
outbound traffic only, i.e. what you send to your upstreams.

Multipath balanced BGP-traffic is problematic in that the balancing is
typically some kind flow based of hashing of L3/L4 information, and that
makes it difficult to predict what upstream a given flow ends up using.
Troubleshooting can be very problematic; a problem from one host towards
ftp.example.com might not exist on another host in the same subnet.

For outbound balancing it's probably more desirable to do as Manolo says
and adjust traffic per-AS with local-pref. 

Inbound traffic balancing is another thing completely. The easy method
is asking your upstreams for a list of communities you can use for
selective propagation of your prefixes through their net. The bad (for
the size of the DFZ) is to chop up your prefixes and announce different
more specifics to each provider.

-- 
Peter


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Re: [c-nsp] 3750X?

2010-04-14 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 08:57 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
 So, before the meeting, does anyone else have opinions or questions
 that I should be asking?

Ask them when they will begin supporting software upgrades per-member in
a stack. :-)

The power sharing looks impressive. And it supports MACsec, though
that's probably hardly relevant yet. Together with PoE+ those are the
things that make it stand out from the 3750E in my eyes.

Are these X-models considerably more expensive than E-models? Or are
they targeted at replacing the E-models?

-- 
Peter


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Re: [c-nsp] 3750X?

2010-04-14 Thread Siva Valliappan

the X-models are at a lower list price then the E-models.

thanks
.siva

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010, Peter Rathlev wrote:


On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 08:57 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:

So, before the meeting, does anyone else have opinions or questions
that I should be asking?


Ask them when they will begin supporting software upgrades per-member in
a stack. :-)

The power sharing looks impressive. And it supports MACsec, though
that's probably hardly relevant yet. Together with PoE+ those are the
things that make it stand out from the 3750E in my eyes.

Are these X-models considerably more expensive than E-models? Or are
they targeted at replacing the E-models?

--
Peter


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Re: [c-nsp] bgp maximum-paths

2010-04-14 Thread Michael K. Smith
On 4/14/10 2:48 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote:

 It's inbound i'm mostly concerned with.  I'm taking full routes from
 both providers.  Paths to both a relatively equal, so the path with the
 lowest ID is winning, causing it to be overloaded.
 
    
 Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
 http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
 
Ugh.  There aren't very many subtle ways to do inbound shaping.  The hammer
approach is as-path prepend, and you could do it more granularly via
route-maps.  As an example, match access-list 100 prepend once, match
access-list 200, prepend twice, etc.

Another way to approach it is to ask your upstream providers if they have
communities you can match to set their local preference on your behalf.

If you're email is your AS, then it looks like you have Qwest and a more
local provider.

Qwest communities can be found at http://onesc.net/communities/as209/.  I
don't see a listing for AS46208 so you may have to ask them.

Regards,

Mike

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Re: [c-nsp] 3750X?

2010-04-14 Thread Rubens Kuhl
I couldn't find the maximum routes when one uses the IPv4+IPv6
template, is it the same of 3750, as the IPv4 only number seems to be
?

Rubens


On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Siva Valliappan svall...@cisco.com wrote:
 the X-models are at a lower list price then the E-models.

 thanks
 .siva

 On Thu, 15 Apr 2010, Peter Rathlev wrote:

 On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 08:57 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:

 So, before the meeting, does anyone else have opinions or questions
 that I should be asking?

 Ask them when they will begin supporting software upgrades per-member in
 a stack. :-)

 The power sharing looks impressive. And it supports MACsec, though
 that's probably hardly relevant yet. Together with PoE+ those are the
 things that make it stand out from the 3750E in my eyes.

 Are these X-models considerably more expensive than E-models? Or are
 they targeted at replacing the E-models?

 --
 Peter


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Re: [c-nsp] bgp maximum-paths

2010-04-14 Thread Chris Gotstein
I've looked into the communities option, but only Qwest supports them, 
my other provider doesn't support communities at this time.  Though the 
Qwest link is the one i want to push more traffic to, so maybe i can 
just use their communities and see what happens.


On 4/14/2010 7:56 PM, Michael K. Smith wrote:

On 4/14/10 2:48 PM, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com  wrote:


It's inbound i'm mostly concerned with.  I'm taking full routes from
both providers.  Paths to both a relatively equal, so the path with the
lowest ID is winning, causing it to be overloaded.

   
Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com


Ugh.  There aren't very many subtle ways to do inbound shaping.  The hammer
approach is as-path prepend, and you could do it more granularly via
route-maps.  As an example, match access-list 100 prepend once, match
access-list 200, prepend twice, etc.

Another way to approach it is to ask your upstream providers if they have
communities you can match to set their local preference on your behalf.

If you're email is your AS, then it looks like you have Qwest and a more
local provider.

Qwest communities can be found at http://onesc.net/communities/as209/.  I
don't see a listing for AS46208 so you may have to ask them.

Regards,

Mike



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Re: [c-nsp] bgp maximum-paths

2010-04-14 Thread Jay Nakamura
 If you're email is your AS, then it looks like you have Qwest and a more
 local provider.

I love how people on these lists casually deduces someone's AS and
upstream from the mail header and gives more specific advice.  Love
it.  :)
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Re: [c-nsp] 3750X?

2010-04-14 Thread Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 01:39:18 +0200, you wrote:

 Are these X-models considerably more expensive than E-models?

Less.

 Or are they targeted at replacing the E-models?

Yes, both E and G, as far as I'm told.
(The final prices are not in the GPL)

-A

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