[darktable-user] A question about appimages

[Bruce Williams]

Hi all,
I'm currently running an appimage of 4.7 and have noticed that although
there are lenses available in the dropdown menu in the Lens Correction
module, there are no cameras listed in the camera drop down menu.
Is that because I'm running an appimage?
Or is there some other reason that that would be happening?

Cheers,
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Setting resolution for an on-line photography competition

[Bruce Williams]

Are you submitting a digital file, or a physical print?
If it's a digital file, I'd avoid that competition, because the organisers
don't even know what they're asking for!
Let's take a random example:
A digital file from a 24mp sensor is (roughly speaking) 6000 pixels x 4000
pixels.
This file can be said to be 83.3 inches x 55.5 inches at 72 ppi.
Or it can be referred to as being 20 inches by 13.3 inches at 300 ppi.
So, unless the organisers have specified a PRINT SIZE @ 72 ppi, they have
no idea of what they are on about.


-- Forwarded message -
From: Andrew Greig 
Date: Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 9:37 AM
Subject: [darktable-user] Setting resolution for an on-line photography
competition
To: darktable-user 


Hi
I have recently decided to jump into photographic competition, and one
of the requirements for submission is to adjust my file to 72 PPI what
would be the best settings for export please?

Kind regards

Andrew Greig



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Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Need help compiling

[Bruce Williams]

Milos,
Thanks for the suggestions.
What exactly does the -dirty flag mean?
And what is the process to correct it?

-- Forwarded message -
From: miloskomarce...@aim.com 
Date: Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Need help compiling
To: stu...@audio2u.com 


Note that you also have a "-dirty" flag which could also mean your source
tree is not in a good state. You should probably start w/ a clean one.


On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 at 14:08, miloskomarce...@aim.com
 wrote:
Hi Bruce,

This second error came actually much earlier in the log, and indeed has
nothing to do w/ raw_r (was just waiting for that to finish):

make[2]: ***
[lib/darktable/rawspeed/data/CMakeFiles/validate-cameras.xml.dir/build.make:76:
lib/darktable/rawspeed/data/cameras.xml.touch] Error 5
make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/Makefile2:2401:
lib/darktable/rawspeed/data/CMakeFiles/validate-cameras.xml.dir/all] Error
2
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs

Now why that failed and is beyond me at the moment, sorry...

Best regards,
Milos

P.S. I think you'll find more people active over at
https://discuss.pixls.us/c/software/darktable/19


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Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Need help compiling

[Bruce Williams]

ata.cpp.o
[ 20%] Building CXX object
bin/external/LibRaw-cmake/CMakeFiles/raw_r.dir/__/LibRaw/src/tables/wblists.cpp.o
[ 20%] Building CXX object
bin/external/LibRaw-cmake/CMakeFiles/raw_r.dir/__/LibRaw/src/utils/curves.cpp.o
[ 20%] Building CXX object
bin/external/LibRaw-cmake/CMakeFiles/raw_r.dir/__/LibRaw/src/utils/decoder_info.cpp.o
[ 20%] Building CXX object
bin/external/LibRaw-cmake/CMakeFiles/raw_r.dir/__/LibRaw/src/utils/init_close_utils.cpp.o
[ 20%] Building CXX object
bin/external/LibRaw-cmake/CMakeFiles/raw_r.dir/__/LibRaw/src/utils/open.cpp.o
[ 20%] Building CXX object
bin/external/LibRaw-cmake/CMakeFiles/raw_r.dir/__/LibRaw/src/utils/phaseone_processing.cpp.o
[ 20%] Building CXX object
bin/external/LibRaw-cmake/CMakeFiles/raw_r.dir/__/LibRaw/src/utils/read_utils.cpp.o
[ 21%] Building CXX object
bin/external/LibRaw-cmake/CMakeFiles/raw_r.dir/__/LibRaw/src/utils/thumb_utils.cpp.o
[ 21%] Building CXX object
bin/external/LibRaw-cmake/CMakeFiles/raw_r.dir/__/LibRaw/src/utils/utils_dcraw.cpp.o
[ 21%] Building CXX object
bin/external/LibRaw-cmake/CMakeFiles/raw_r.dir/__/LibRaw/src/utils/utils_libraw.cpp.o
[ 21%] Linking CXX static library libraw.a
[ 21%] Building CXX object
bin/external/LibRaw-cmake/CMakeFiles/raw_r.dir/__/LibRaw/src/write/apply_profile.cpp.o
[ 21%] Building CXX object
bin/external/LibRaw-cmake/CMakeFiles/raw_r.dir/__/LibRaw/src/write/file_write.cpp.o
[ 21%] Built target raw
[ 21%] Building CXX object
bin/external/LibRaw-cmake/CMakeFiles/raw_r.dir/__/LibRaw/src/write/tiff_writer.cpp.o
[ 21%] Building CXX object
bin/external/LibRaw-cmake/CMakeFiles/raw_r.dir/__/LibRaw/src/x3f/x3f_parse_process.cpp.o
[ 21%] Building CXX object
bin/external/LibRaw-cmake/CMakeFiles/raw_r.dir/__/LibRaw/src/x3f/x3f_utils_patched.cpp.o
[ 21%] Linking CXX static library libraw_r.a
[ 21%] Built target raw_r
make: *** [Makefile:156: all] Error 2

I'm guessing this means that the script tried to build something called
"raw_r", and that that process failed. Is that correct?
How do I find out why it failed?
And the final line? I don't understand the syntax there at all. If someone
could break each part of that down and explain it, I would be most
appreciative.
Many thanks!
Cheers,
Bruce.





-- Forwarded message -
From: Remco Viëtor 
Date: Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Need help compiling
To: 


On mardi 19 décembre 2023 07:59:41 CET Bruce Williams wrote:
> Thanks for the replies so far.
> After pamac search intltool, I found a version number, and promptly tried
> this:
>
> "sudo pamac intltool  0.51.0-6"
...✔
> Available actions:
>  pamac --version
>  pamac --help, -h [action]
>  pamac search [options] 
>  pamac list   [options] 
>  pamac info   [options] 
>  pamac install[options] 
>  pamac reinstall  [options] 
>  pamac remove [options] [package(s)]
>  pamac checkupdates   [options]
>  pamac update,upgrade [options]
>  pamac clone  [options] 
>  pamac build  [options] [package(s)]
>  pamac clean  [options]
>
> What did I do wrong?
Perhaps pamac needs to be told *what* to do with the package?
Also, I doubt the package name has spaces (they complicate shell scripts)

>From your post, I gather you either never installed a package manually
before,
or you used a GUI vesion of the package manager. If the latter, why not use
it
here as well?



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Fwd: [darktable-user] Need help compiling

[Bruce Williams]

Thanks for the replies so far.
After pamac search intltool, I found a version number, and promptly tried
this:

    ~/Downloads/darktable/darktable    darktable-4.6.x !3  sudo pamac
intltool  0.51.0-6

 ✔
Available actions:
 pamac --version
 pamac --help, -h [action]
 pamac search [options] 
 pamac list   [options] 
 pamac info   [options] 
 pamac install[options] 
 pamac reinstall  [options] 
 pamac remove [options] [package(s)]
 pamac checkupdates   [options]
 pamac update,upgrade [options]
 pamac clone  [options] 
 pamac build  [options] [package(s)]
 pamac clean  [options]

What did I do wrong?


-- Forwarded message -
From: Remco Viëtor 
Date: Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Need help compiling
To: 


On mardi 19 décembre 2023 07:12:45 CET Bruce Williams wrote:
(...)
> -- Missing intltool-merge
(...)
>  Some external programs couldn't be found

Install the missing external programs? For me (OpenSUse) that would be the
package 'intltool'

Note: the cited line is the only missing tool you showed, I have a feeling
the
start of the output is missing, so there could be other missing tools...




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[darktable-user] Need help compiling

[Bruce Williams]

Hi all,
After a lengthy break from darktable due to moving house, I want to get
back into running the dev version during the next cycle.
I've cloned the repository to my local system, selected the branch I want,
and attempted to build.
But CMake is chucking a hissy-fit. This is as far as I've got

-- Building SSE2-optimized codepaths: ON
-- Performing Test C_COMPILER_UNDERSTANDS_-Wno-error=varargs
-- Performing Test C_COMPILER_UNDERSTANDS_-Wno-error=varargs - Success
-- Performing Test CXX_COMPILER_UNDERSTANDS_-Wno-error=varargs
-- Performing Test CXX_COMPILER_UNDERSTANDS_-Wno-error=varargs - Success
-- Performing Test
C_COMPILER_UNDERSTANDS_-Wno-error=address-of-packed-member
-- Performing Test
C_COMPILER_UNDERSTANDS_-Wno-error=address-of-packed-member - Success
-- Performing Test
CXX_COMPILER_UNDERSTANDS_-Wno-error=address-of-packed-member
-- Performing Test
CXX_COMPILER_UNDERSTANDS_-Wno-error=address-of-packed-member - Success
-- Looking for external programs
-- Found perl
-- Missing intltool-merge
-- Found desktop-file-validate
-- Found LLVM 16.0.6
-- Found clang compiler - /usr/bin/clang-16
-- Found clang opencl-c.h header in /usr/lib/clang/16/include
-- Will be able to test-compile OpenCL programs. Nice.
-- Missing jsonschema, problems in noiseprofiles.json might go unnoticed
-- Found xsltproc
-- Found xmllint
-- Found exiftool
CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:418 (message):
 Some external programs couldn't be found

...and was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to help me out, please?
I'm on Manjaro/KDE Plasma.
Thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Bruce.


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Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] darktable suddenly refuses to launch on Manjaro

[Bruce Williams]

Manuel,
While launching from the command line with this:
darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable/test
...does work, when I go into preferences/processing, the last 3 lines which
all pertain to opencl are greyed out.
No option to enable them. They all say "not available".

Then, you suggested:
1) First, make a backup of the current config directory.
2) Copy the default darktablerc into your config:
$ cp ~/.config/darktable/test/darktablerc  ~/.config/darktable/
3) Roll back the library.db and data.db from darktable's own snapshots,
from most recent to oldest, e.g.
$ cd ~/.config/darktable
$ cp data.db-snp-20230716172500 data.db
$ cp library.db-snp-20230716172500 library.db

Did that, and darktable does now launch from the icon on the taskbar. 1
small step for a man... no giant leap for mankind just yet.
OpenCL is still not available.
Nor is the ability to multiselect images in the lighttable view. That's a
new twist. I've never seen that not be possible.




Romano,
You suggested restoring via Timeshift.
I just opened Timeshift, which I have set to capture 1x weekly and 5x daily
backups.
But bizarrely, it is set to EXCLUDE both /root and the user home directory
(and all files therein, in both instances... so I'm not sure exactly what
it is backing up!)




David,
That's actually sounding like a decent plan, to be honest. I might just go
that route.


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Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Re[2]: Fwd: [darktable-user] darktable suddenly refuses to launch on Manjaro

[Bruce Williams]

Jörn,
No, I definitely had not updated Manjaro between the last successful launch
of darktable, and when it failed.

As for the contents of /etc/fonts/fonts.conf, I don't appear to have either
the directory or the file


*cd ~/etc

cd: no such file or directory: /home/audio2u/etc*

There IS a fonts.conf file in my Home directory though.
Its contents don't extend to line 29, though. Here are the contents of that
file:


























* ~/.fonts  rgb true
   hintslight true
 *

No, I did not mount a camera, although I MAY have had a USB key attached at
the time. Not sure now.
Attempting to launch darktable with camera control disabled yielded this:


























































































































































































*darktable -d camctl

 This GDB supports auto-downloading debuginfo from the
following URLs:  >Enable debuginfod for this session? (y
or [n]) [answered N; input not from terminal]Debuginfod has been
disabled.To make this setting permanent, add 'set debuginfod enabled off'
to .gdbinit.[New LWP 1913][New LWP 1914][New LWP 1915][New LWP 1916][New
LWP 1917][New LWP 1918][New LWP 1919][New LWP 1920][New LWP 1921][New LWP
1922][New LWP 1923][New LWP 1924][New LWP 1925][Thread debugging using
libthread_db enabled]Using host libthread_db library
"/usr/lib/libthread_db.so.1".0x7f6c50cfa8b7 in wait4 () from
/usr/lib/libc.so.6warning: Currently logging to
/tmp/darktable_bt_CGS091.txt.  Turn the logging off and on to make the new
setting effective.#0  0x7f6c50cfa8b7 in wait4 () at
/usr/lib/libc.so.6#1  0x7f6c5119df82 in  () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so#2  0x7f6c50c3e710 in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6#3  0x7f6c50c8fdb4 in
pthread_mutex_lock () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6#4  0x7f6c510c263c in
dt_cache_get_with_caller () at /usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so#5
 0x7f6c51138252 in dt_image_cache_get () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so#6  0x7f6c5113930d in
dt_image_set_raw_aspect_ratio () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so#7  0x7f6c510c3ea5 in
dt_collection_update () at /usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so#8
 0x7f6c510d133e in dt_collection_update_query () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so#9  0x7f6c510c5199 in
dt_collection_new () at /usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so#10
0x7f6c510e4317 in dt_init () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so#11 0x55e7d683c03d in  ()#12
0x7f6c50c27cd0 in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6#13 0x7f6c50c27d8a in
__libc_start_main () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6#14 0x55e7d683c0b5 in
 ()=  Id   Target IdFrame *
1Thread 0x7f6c3f49e680 (LWP 1910) "darktable" 0x7f6c50cfa8b7 in
wait4 () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6  2Thread 0x7f6c3efff6c0 (LWP 1913)
"pool-spawner"  0x7f6c50d0ee2d in syscall () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6  3
   Thread 0x7f6c3e7fe6c0 (LWP 1914) "gmain" 0x7f6c50d0365f in
poll () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6  4Thread 0x7f6c3dffd6c0 (LWP 1915)
"pool"  0x7f6c50d0ee2d in syscall () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6  5
   Thread 0x7f6c3d7fc6c0 (LWP 1916) "gdbus" 0x7f6c50d0365f in
poll () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6  6Thread 0x7f6c3cdd86c0 (LWP 1917)
"worker 0"  0x7f6c50c894ae in ?? () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6  7
 Thread 0x7f6c26c0 (LWP 1918) "worker 1"  0x7f6c50c894ae in ??
() from /usr/lib/libc.so.6  8Thread 0x7f6c2f7fe6c0 (LWP 1919) "worker
2"  0x7f6c50c894ae in ?? () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6  9Thread
0x7f6c2effd6c0 (LWP 1920) "worker 3"  0x7f6c50c894ae in ?? () from
/usr/lib/libc.so.6  10   Thread 0x7f6c2e7fc6c0 (LWP 1921) "kicker"
 0x7f6c50cd58f5 in clock_nanosleep () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6  11
Thread 0x7f6c2dffb6c0 (LWP 1922) "worker res 0"  0x7f6c50c894ae in ??
() from /usr/lib/libc.so.6  12   Thread 0x7f6c2d7fa6c0 (LWP 1923) "worker
res 1"  0x7f6c50c894ae in ?? () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6  13   Thread
0x7f6c2cff96c0 (LWP 1924) "worker res 2"  0x7f6c50c894ae in ?? () from
/usr/lib/libc.so.6  14   Thread 0x7f6c13fff6c0 (LWP 1925) "gphoto_update"
0x7f6c50cd58f5 in clock_nanosleep () from
/usr/lib/libc.so.6=Thread 14 (Thread 0x7f6c13fff6c0 (LWP 1925)
"gphoto_update"):#0  0x7f6c50cd58f5 in clock_nanosleep () at
/usr/lib/libc.so.6#1  0x7f6c50ce7fb7 in nanosleep () at
/usr/lib/libc.so.6#2  0x7f6c50b3d1c1 in g_usleep () at
/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0#3  0x7f6c51312f6b in dt_update_cameras_thread
() at /usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so#4  0x7f6c50c8c9eb in
 () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6#5  0x7f6c50d10ebc in  () at
/usr/lib/libc.so.6Thread 13 (Thread 0x7f6c2cff96c0 (LWP 1924) "worker res
2"):#0  0x7f6c50c894ae in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6#1
 

Fwd: Fwd: Re[2]: Fwd: [darktable-user] darktable suddenly refuses to launch on Manjaro

[Bruce Williams]

*Maybe you've already tried that, but if not, here's how to do it:*









* $ darktable --configdir /path/to/temporary/configdir This will create a
new default profile at "/path/to/temporary/configdir" and should leave your
working profile alone. But you do have a backup of it, right?! If darktable
now starts with it's defaults settings, something with your config and/or
image database is fishy...*


Ah-hah!
THAT made it launch.
Which is both a good thing and a bad thing.
No, I don't think I have a backup of my original config.
When I launched it from the command line, although it launched, the command
line gave me this:

   ~  darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable/test

 1 ✘
Fontconfig error: "/etc/fonts/fonts.conf", line 29: not well-formed
(invalid token)
Fontconfig error: Cannot load config file from /etc/fonts/fonts.conf
1.3400 [lib_load_module] failed to open `midi': libportmidi.so.2:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Not sure if anyone understands what all that means, and if that might be
the cause of the issue?


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Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] darktable suddenly refuses to launch on Manjaro

[Bruce Williams]

*Is that just a "plain" run of darktable, which gave the gbd error?*








* You should be able to just start darktable from a terminal emulator like
"Konsole" by typing "darktable" at the prompt. And there's no reason gbd
should be called in that case. Also, is it possible you had done a system
update without immediately rebooting the system, and in that case, did
darktable stop working after a reboot (or restart, logout/login cycle)?
Programs don't just stop working on a system where nothing changed...*



Yes, I just typed 'darktable' at the prompt in konsole.
And as previously stated, I had not updated my system since the last time
darktable had run.
That's what I find confusing.


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Fwd: Re[2]: Fwd: [darktable-user] darktable suddenly refuses to launch on Manjaro

[Bruce Williams]

Hmmm, disabling opencl didn't seem to help

darktable --disable-opencl

 ✔

This GDB supports auto-downloading debuginfo from the following URLs:
 
Enable debuginfod for this session? (y or [n]) [answered N; input not from
terminal]
Debuginfod has been disabled.
To make this setting permanent, add 'set debuginfod enabled off' to
.gdbinit.
[New LWP 2433]
[New LWP 2434]
[New LWP 2435]
[New LWP 2436]
[New LWP 2450]
[New LWP 2451]
[New LWP 2452]
[New LWP 2453]
[New LWP 2454]
[New LWP 2455]
[New LWP 2456]
[New LWP 2457]
[New LWP 2458]
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
Using host libthread_db library "/usr/lib/libthread_db.so.1".
0x7fdc96afa8b7 in wait4 () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6
warning: Currently logging to /tmp/darktable_bt_AFP891.txt.  Turn the
logging off and on to make the new setting effective.
#0  0x7fdc96afa8b7 in wait4 () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x7fdc96f9df82 in  () at /usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#2  0x7fdc96a3e710 in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#3  0x7fdc96a8fdb4 in pthread_mutex_lock () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#4  0x7fdc96ec263c in dt_cache_get_with_caller () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#5  0x7fdc96f38252 in dt_image_cache_get () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#6  0x7fdc96f3930d in dt_image_set_raw_aspect_ratio () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#7  0x7fdc96ec3ea5 in dt_collection_update () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#8  0x7fdc96ed133e in dt_collection_update_query () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#9  0x7fdc96ec5199 in dt_collection_new () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#10 0x7fdc96ee4317 in dt_init () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#11 0x55e8403fa03d in  ()
#12 0x7fdc96a27cd0 in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#13 0x7fdc96a27d8a in __libc_start_main () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#14 0x55e8403fa0b5 in  ()

=

 Id   Target IdFrame
* 1Thread 0x7fdc8538f680 (LWP 2431) "darktable" 0x7fdc96afa8b7
in wait4 () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6
 2Thread 0x7fdc84fff6c0 (LWP 2433) "pool-spawner"  0x7fdc96b0ee2d
in syscall () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6
 3Thread 0x7fdc847fe6c0 (LWP 2434) "gmain" 0x7fdc96b0365f
in poll () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6
 4Thread 0x7fdc83ffd6c0 (LWP 2435) "pool"  0x7fdc96b0ee2d
in syscall () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6
 5Thread 0x7fdc837fc6c0 (LWP 2436) "gdbus" 0x7fdc96b0365f
in poll () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6
 6Thread 0x7fdc82cd26c0 (LWP 2450) "worker 0"  0x7fdc96a894ae
in ?? () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6
 7Thread 0x7fdc824d16c0 (LWP 2451) "worker 1"  0x7fdc96a894ae
in ?? () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6
 8Thread 0x7fdc81cd06c0 (LWP 2452) "worker 2"  0x7fdc96a894ae
in ?? () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6
 9Thread 0x7fdc814cf6c0 (LWP 2453) "worker 3"  0x7fdc96a894ae
in ?? () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6
 10   Thread 0x7fdc80cce6c0 (LWP 2454) "kicker"0x7fdc96ad58f5
in clock_nanosleep () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6
 11   Thread 0x7fdc7bfff6c0 (LWP 2455) "worker res 0"  0x7fdc96a894ae
in ?? () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6
 12   Thread 0x7fdc7b7fe6c0 (LWP 2456) "worker res 1"  0x7fdc96a894ae
in ?? () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6
 13   Thread 0x7fdc7affd6c0 (LWP 2457) "worker res 2"  0x7fdc96a894ae
in ?? () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6
 14   Thread 0x7fdc7a7fc6c0 (LWP 2458) "gphoto_update" 0x7fdc96ad58f5
in clock_nanosleep () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6

=

Thread 14 (Thread 0x7fdc7a7fc6c0 (LWP 2458) "gphoto_update"):
#0  0x7fdc96ad58f5 in clock_nanosleep () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x7fdc96ae7fb7 in nanosleep () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x7fdc96cec1c1 in g_usleep () at /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x7fdc97112f6b in dt_update_cameras_thread () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#4  0x7fdc96a8c9eb in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#5  0x7fdc96b10ebc in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6

Thread 13 (Thread 0x7fdc7affd6c0 (LWP 2457) "worker res 2"):
#0  0x7fdc96a894ae in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x7fdc96a8bd40 in pthread_cond_wait () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x7fdc96fac6ae in  () at /usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#3  0x7fdc96a8c9eb in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#4  0x7fdc96b10ebc in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6

Thread 12 (Thread 0x7fdc7b7fe6c0 (LWP 2456) "worker res 1"):
#0  0x7fdc96a894ae in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x7fdc96a8bd40 in pthread_cond_wait () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x7fdc96fac6ae in  () at /usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#3  0x7fdc96a8c9eb in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#4  0x7fdc96b10ebc in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6

Thread 11 (Thread 0x7fdc7bfff6c0 (LWP 2455) "worker res 0"):
#0  0x7fdc96a894ae in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x7fdc96a8bd40 in pthread_cond_wait () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x7fdc96fac6ae in  () at 

Fwd: [darktable-user] darktable suddenly refuses to launch on Manjaro

[Bruce Williams]

 0x7fc70eee7fb7 in nanosleep () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x7fc70eef8f1e in sleep () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#3  0x7fc70f3ac993 in  () at /usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#4  0x7fc70ee8c9eb in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#5  0x7fc70ef10ebc in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6

Thread 9 (Thread 0x7fc6f57586c0 (LWP 3922) "worker 3"):
#0  0x7fc70ee894ae in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x7fc70ee8bd40 in pthread_cond_wait () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x7fc70f3acca2 in  () at /usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#3  0x7fc70ee8c9eb in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#4  0x7fc70ef10ebc in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6

Thread 8 (Thread 0x7fc6f5f596c0 (LWP 3921) "worker 2"):
#0  0x7fc70ee894ae in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x7fc70ee8bd40 in pthread_cond_wait () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x7fc70f3acca2 in  () at /usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#3  0x7fc70ee8c9eb in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#4  0x7fc70ef10ebc in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6

Thread 7 (Thread 0x7fc6f675a6c0 (LWP 3920) "worker 1"):
#0  0x7fc70ee894ae in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x7fc70ee8bd40 in pthread_cond_wait () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x7fc70f3acca2 in  () at /usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#3  0x7fc70ee8c9eb in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#4  0x7fc70ef10ebc in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6

Thread 6 (Thread 0x7fc6f6f5b6c0 (LWP 3919) "worker 0"):
#0  0x7fc70ee894ae in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x7fc70ee8bd40 in pthread_cond_wait () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x7fc70f3acca2 in  () at /usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#3  0x7fc70ee8c9eb in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#4  0x7fc70ef10ebc in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6

Thread 5 (Thread 0x7fc6f77fe6c0 (LWP 3918) "gdbus"):
#0  0x7fc70ef0365f in poll () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x7fc70ed6cc2f in  () at /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x7fc70ed0efef in g_main_loop_run () at /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x7fc70e10f28c in  () at /usr/lib/libgio-2.0.so.0
#4  0x7fc70ed41d75 in  () at /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x7fc70ee8c9eb in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#6  0x7fc70ef10ebc in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6

Thread 4 (Thread 0x7fc6f7fff6c0 (LWP 3917) "pool"):
#0  0x7fc70ef0ee2d in syscall () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x7fc70ed65533 in g_cond_wait_until () at /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x7fc70ecda115 in  () at /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x7fc70ecda277 in g_async_queue_timeout_pop () at
/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#4  0x7fc70ed44bee in  () at /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x7fc70ed41d75 in  () at /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#6  0x7fc70ee8c9eb in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#7  0x7fc70ef10ebc in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6

Thread 3 (Thread 0x7fc6fc9fe6c0 (LWP 3916) "gmain"):
#0  0x7fc70ef0365f in poll () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x7fc70ed6cc2f in  () at /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x7fc70ed0d0e2 in g_main_context_iteration () at
/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x7fc70ed0d132 in  () at /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#4  0x7fc70ed41d75 in  () at /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x7fc70ee8c9eb in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#6  0x7fc70ef10ebc in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6

Thread 2 (Thread 0x7fc6fd1ff6c0 (LWP 3915) "pool-spawner"):
#0  0x7fc70ef0ee2d in syscall () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x7fc70ed64ca7 in g_cond_wait () at /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x7fc70ecda144 in  () at /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x7fc70ed442fe in  () at /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#4  0x7fc70ed41d75 in  () at /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x7fc70ee8c9eb in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#6  0x7fc70ef10ebc in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7fc6fd65e680 (LWP 3913) "darktable"):
#0  0x7fc70eefa8b7 in wait4 () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x7fc70f39df82 in  () at /usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#2  0x7fc70ee3e710 in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#3  0x7fc70ee8fdb4 in pthread_mutex_lock () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#4  0x7fc70f2c263c in dt_cache_get_with_caller () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#5  0x7fc70f338252 in dt_image_cache_get () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#6  0x7fc70f33930d in dt_image_set_raw_aspect_ratio () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#7  0x7fc70f2c3ea5 in dt_collection_update () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#8  0x7fc70f2d133e in dt_collection_update_query () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#9  0x7fc70f2c5199 in dt_collection_new () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#10 0x7fc70f2e4317 in dt_init () at
/usr/bin/../lib/darktable/libdarktable.so
#11 0x55c587e6403d in  ()
#12 0x7fc70ee27cd0 in  () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#13 0x7fc70ee27d8a in __libc_start_main () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#14 0x55c587e640b5 in  ()
[Inferior 1 (process 3913) detached]
backtrace written to /tmp/darktable_bt_9

Fwd: [darktable-user] darktable suddenly refuses to launch on Manjaro

[Bruce Williams]

No, I had not!
This was the error thrown by the terminal:

an error occurred while trying to execute gdb. please check if gdb is
installed on your system.
backtrace written to /tmp/darktable_bt_XHGFA2.txt
zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped)  darktable

I tried "nano /tmp/darktable_bt_XHGFA2.txt" but it appears to have nothing
in the text file.


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From: Jesus Arocho 
Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] darktable suddenly refuses to launch on
Manjaro
To: Bruce Williams 



On 8/25/23 07:45, Bruce Williams wrote:

Hi all,
I'm running Manjaro, and have had darktable 4.4 running just fine in recent
days.
But tonight, I tried to launch it, the icon appears for a second, and then
disappears.
System monitor does not show it amongst the running applications.

System specs:

Operating System: Manjaro Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.7
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.108.0
Qt Version: 5.15.10
Kernel Version: 6.1.44-1-MANJARO (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 16 × AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core Processor
Memory: 31.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070/PCIe/SSE2
Manufacturer: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
Product Name: MS-7B79
System Version: 2.0

I do not have auto updating of the system running due to some issues with
the GUI version of PAMAC. I do manual system updates via the command line,
and I have not done any since I last ran dt.
If anyone can point me in the right direction to get it launching, I would
be most thankful.

Have you tried to launch darktable from a terminal window to see if an
error message is displayed?


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[darktable-user] darktable suddenly refuses to launch on Manjaro

[Bruce Williams]

Hi all,
I'm running Manjaro, and have had darktable 4.4 running just fine in recent
days.
But tonight, I tried to launch it, the icon appears for a second, and then
disappears.
System monitor does not show it amongst the running applications.

System specs:

Operating System: Manjaro Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.7
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.108.0
Qt Version: 5.15.10
Kernel Version: 6.1.44-1-MANJARO (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 16 × AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core Processor
Memory: 31.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070/PCIe/SSE2
Manufacturer: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
Product Name: MS-7B79
System Version: 2.0

I do not have auto updating of the system running due to some issues with
the GUI version of PAMAC. I do manual system updates via the command line,
and I have not done any since I last ran dt.
If anyone can point me in the right direction to get it launching, I would
be most thankful.

Cheers,
Bruce Williams
--
Owner, Creator and co-host

Shutters Inc podcast <http://www.shuttersincpodcast.com/>, the world's
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Tags in xmp files

[Bruce Williams]

Tony,
You know, I don't think I have ever noticed that option! Sounds perfect.
I'll investigate.
Thanks.

-- Forwarded message -
From: tony Hamilton 
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023, 03:45
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Tags in xmp files
To: 


Hi Bruce,
If I understand it correctly, you could have exported your tags from the
Windows installation, to USB (or directly to your laptop if you have
connectivity), as a .txt file using the export button at the bottom of the
lighttable tagging module, then re-import those tags in the Mint install of
dt, with the import button in that module. I do this frequently between Win
10 and Mint 21

On 01/01/2023 20:55, Bruce Williams wrote:

Happy new year everyone!
Just a quick question about tags. I recently travelled for Christmas. I
took the laptop, and copied images from memory card to the laptop
using darktable. I then tagged all of those images using dt 4.2 on Windows.
When I got home, I sent all of those images and xmp files to a usb key and
copied them onto my linux (desktop) system, and imported them into dt 4.2
on linux mint.
But as far as my desktop version of dt is concerned, there are no tags,
even though I can open up an xmp file in a text editor and see the tags.
Is there a way to get dt to read the tags from the xmp files and add those
tags to whatever database file they should live in? I would prefer NOT to
have to enter all the tags again if I can avoid it!
Thanks in advance!

Cheers,
Bruce Williams
--
Owner, Creator and co-host

Shutters Inc podcast <http://www.shuttersincpodcast.com/>, the world's
best-loved photography podcast
Creator

Understanding darktable
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkqe4BYsllmcxo2dsF-rFQw> on youtube
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Tags in xmp files

[Bruce Williams]

They are definitely stored in the xmp file, but I have a feeling they are
also stored in one of the database files as well.
As it happens, I got this sorted.
I simply removed all images from darktable and re-added them to the library
and all the tags were read correctly. Not sure why it glitched first time
around.

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From: Michael Rasmussen 
Date: Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Tags in xmp files
To: 


On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 07:55:36 +1100
Bruce Williams  wrote:

> But as far as my desktop version of dt is concerned, there are no
> tags, even though I can open up an xmp file in a text editor and see
> the tags. Is there a way to get dt to read the tags from the xmp
> files and add those tags to whatever database file they should live
> in? I would prefer NOT to have to enter all the tags again if I can
> avoid it! Thanks in advance!
>
AFAIK: Tags are stored in library.db or data.db and not in the XMP
files.

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[darktable-user] Tags in xmp files

[Bruce Williams]

Happy new year everyone!
Just a quick question about tags. I recently travelled for Christmas. I
took the laptop, and copied images from memory card to the laptop
using darktable. I then tagged all of those images using dt 4.2 on Windows.
When I got home, I sent all of those images and xmp files to a usb key and
copied them onto my linux (desktop) system, and imported them into dt 4.2
on linux mint.
But as far as my desktop version of dt is concerned, there are no tags,
even though I can open up an xmp file in a text editor and see the tags.
Is there a way to get dt to read the tags from the xmp files and add those
tags to whatever database file they should live in? I would prefer NOT to
have to enter all the tags again if I can avoid it!
Thanks in advance!

Cheers,
Bruce Williams
--
Owner, Creator and co-host

Shutters Inc podcast <http://www.shuttersincpodcast.com/>, the world's
best-loved photography podcast
Creator

Understanding darktable
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkqe4BYsllmcxo2dsF-rFQw> on youtube
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[darktable-user] Collections module

[Bruce Williams]

Hi all,
Not sure if something has changed with v4, or if it's user error on my
part, but my Collections module seems to now only search on uncatgeorized
or parent tags, but will not search for child tags.
Have I done something to cause this?
Can I get back the ability to search tags and have child tags included in
the results?
Cheers,
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best-loved photography podcast

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Fwd: [darktable-user] Looking for easier way

[Bruce Williams]

Niranjan,
In the Collections module, select Date Taken, and then use this format:
[:MM:DD;:MM:DD]
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From: Niranjan Rao 
Date: Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 12:45 PM
Subject: [darktable-user] Looking for easier way
To: 


On darktable 3.8.1 Ubuntu 20.04


I am looking for easier or faster way to select images based on date
range. Collections does allow me to add or remove the images for dates
but selecting images for say couple of weeks when you have photos taken
almost every day in month means selecting 14 different dates manually
and every time choosing date filter, year, month and then desired date.

I vaguely remember using date range somewhere in darktable. Am I
mistaken and getting confused about some other tool? If so, is there any
other way to filter images taken in a certain date range? It can
potentially span across month and/or year.


Basic goal is to tag the images taken in certain weeks.


Regards,


Niranjan


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Fwd: [darktable-user] 3.8.1 Under expose / black level warning error ? and FILMIC !

[Bruce Williams]

As I mentioned previously, what you are experiencing with filmic RGB is
perfectly normal (and expected) behavior.
What filmic RGB aims to do is look at areas of your image which are over-
and under-exposed, and compress the luminosity range and reduce the
saturation.
The effect on the luminosity starts gently (prior to clipped pixels) and
gets progressively more heavy-handed as the pixels get closer to (or even
beyond) the point of clipping.
The same thing happens with the saturation.
This is why disabling filmic RGB temporarily allows you to see the extent
of clipping in your image. But when you re-enable it, those pixels are
corralled back within legal limits.
Hope this helps.
If you need a better explanation, you'll need to ask Aurélien. 
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: Marc Cabuy 
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022, 00:13
Subject: [darktable-user] 3.8.1 Under expose / black level warning error ?
and FILMIC !
To:
Cc: darktable forum 


>From your experiment with Filmic, I am convinced that Bruce is right.
Besides Bruce's excellent tutorial video's, here is another video by
Nicolas Winspeare about what Filmic does: https://youtu.be/flU8QPKpk3s .

Op di 15 feb. 2022 13:35 schreef Francesco Scaglioni :

> Hi,
>
> On 14/02/2022 21:24, Bruce Williams wrote:
>
> Also, try disabling filmic RGB temporarily.
> That will allow shadows to clip, where filmic is rounding them off gently
> to prevent clipping.
>
>
> Interesting.  I disabled filmic and pushed the black level up ( RGB levels
> ) until the darkest part of the image showed 1,1,0 ( Colour picker ).  That
> area was showing as underexposed ( Blue in my case ).  I then re-engaged
> filmic, the chosen area then registered as 0.0.0 but the underexposure /
> blue warning disappeared for that area.  Almost as if filmic, under certain
> circumstances, is disabling the underexposure warning ( or am I just
> miserably failing to understand what filmic is actually doing - quite
> possible ).
>
>
>
>
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Fwd: [darktable-user] 3.8.1 Under expose / black level warning error ?

[Bruce Williams]

Also, try disabling filmic RGB temporarily.
That will allow shadows to clip, where filmic is rounding them off gently
to prevent clipping.

Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

-- Forwarded message -
From: David Vincent-Jones 
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022, 07:17
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] 3.8.1 Under expose / black level warning
error ?
To: 


You may want to (right-click on the box) check on the settings that are
being used ... this can be confusing and not work as one might imagine.

 but that said I have found sometimes that the indicators do not
show-up as predicted. Often one has to zoom in to see the red and blue
markers.

David


On 2022-02-14 10:48, Francesco Scaglioni wrote:

Hi

Running 3.8.1 on Ubuntu 20.04 with images from a Fujifilm XT-3.

I often use the ( " Keyboard default  O " ) highlights and shadows
warning.  It appears that the highlights warning is working but that the
shadows ( defaults to blue ) may not be ?  Or am I missing some numpty
configuration option ?

Any suggestions much appreciated.

Cheers,

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Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Timestamp oddity

[Bruce Williams]

OK, I think I understand what you said Nick. :)
I also tried some of those ls switches on my own memory card and was able
to replicate your results. Of course, mine are all +11, not -5, but that's
to be expected.
But where does that leave us?
Is this a dt issue that the devs can fix?
Or is it a linux issue?
Thing is, because I dual  boot with windoze 10, I do recall that I had to
do some strange offset thing in linux because windoze can't handle time
zones the way linux does. I'd have to go and look up what it was that I had
to do to get both windoze and linux to display the correct time zone, but I
vaguely recall it required allowing windoze to retrieve the time zone info
from BIOS, and then applying some kind of offset in linux to compensate.
Whether any of that is related to this dt issue or not, I'm not sure.
Although I suspect not, based on your ls results.
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From: Neal Holtz 
Date: Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Timestamp oddity
To: 


I have my camera (Nikon) set to EST (UTC-5).
Just took a photo at 2022-01-19 15:42 EST.

My computer displayed it as 10:42, not 15:42.

Timezone info is not recorded with the file time stamp.

So host computer has to assume UTC for the timestamps.
Probably the only reasonable assumption for external file systems
that were created elsewhere.

The file *in the camera file system* is given
in local camera time. It would be preferable to be in UTC.

The following is on the camera file system, before copying to computer:

> nholtz@photos:176ND850$ pwd
> /media/nholtz/NIKON D850/DCIM/176ND850
> nholtz@photos:176ND850$ ls -l
> total 25152
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 nholtz nholtz 53141230 Jan 19 10:42 D85_1332.NEF*

The above shows that 15:42 was recorded, but was displayed as 10:42
because my computer is also set to UTC-5.

A little more evidence:

> nholtz@photos:176ND850$ ls --full-time
> total 25152
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 nholtz nholtz 53141230 2022-01-19 10:42:08.91000 -0500
D85_1332.NEF*

The '-0500' is the timezone in which to interpret the 10:42 time.
It has been adjusted for display in that timezone.

And more, telling the ls command to assume UTC time zone:

> nholtz@photos:176ND850$ TZ=UTC ls --full-time
> total 25152
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 nholtz nholtz 53141230 2022-01-19 15:42:08.91000 +
D85_1332.NEF*
> nholtz@photos:176ND850$

We are back to the 15:42, with UTC offset of , as set by the camera.

Summary:  My camera (Nikon) just stamps the files with whatever local
time you have set, ignoring timezone.  Then the computer you copy the
file to applies its timezone info when it displays the times.  So if
your time is set 'correctly' in the camera (ignoring timezone), the
timezone must be incorrect on the computer.


On 2022-01-19 3:27 p.m., Bruce Williams wrote:
> OK, following Christian's train of thought, I just took another image at
> 07:21 on Jan 20th.
> I took the memory card out of the camera, put it in my card reader which
> attaches to my pc via USB port, and opened the containing folder in Nemo
> (file manager).
> Sure enough, the Date Modified timestamp says January 20th at 18:21
> 11 hours into the future.
> No other app has come into contact with the files on the memory card. I
> NEVER use any other image editing/viewing software to access the images
> on my memory cards. It is always a case of:
> 1. files written to card by camera's image processor
> 2. memory card mounted via card reader to linux mint
> 3. files imported directly into darktable
> 4. memory card ejected properly via nemo.
>
> Cheers,
> Bruce Williams
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>

[darktable-user] Timestamp oddity

[Bruce Williams]

Hi all,
This evening, I was taking some test shots. The date/time in my camera IS
set correctly.
The time in the system tray (sorry to use the Windows name, but I assume
under linux, it's still called that?) of my Linux Mint is also displayed
correctly.
Yet, when I open the "copy and import" window in darktable 3.8, the
timestamp column of the images I shot today is showing 05:00 tomorrow! In
other words, about 8 hours later than actual.
Yet, using the folder
string $(EXIF_YEAR)/$(EXIF_YEAR)-$(EXIF_MONTH)-$(EXIF_DAY)/, the folder
created has TODAY'S date (as it should).
So, anyone got any ideas on why the copy and import dialogue is reporting
the incorrect date/time?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Re: split of Crop and Rotate to "Crop", and, "Rotate and Perspective" in 3.8

[Bruce Williams]

I'll add my voice to those who think crop and rotate made more sense.
I'm sure I'll get use to it with time, but I use crop in every image, and
rotation on 95% of them, but perspective very rarely.
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

-- Forwarded message -
From: William Ferguson 
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021, 06:47
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Re: split of Crop and Rotate to "Crop", and,
"Rotate and Perspective" in 3.8
To: darktable-user 


In rotate and perspective you can choose original format instead of largest
area.  When you do that, you can click in the image and change the crop by
moving the mouse.  You may still need to do a final crop, but I find a lot
of the time I can get a satisfactory crop doing this.

On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 8:50 AM Bernhard 
wrote:

> Technically it's understandable that this is separated and grouped as is.
> Neither crop nor flip/rotate do any recalculation of pixel values, they
> just reorder them (rotate/flip) or throw some of them away (crop).
>
> So as is: rotate freely (any angle) is technically the same as perspective
> correction: you have to take every pixel and it's surrounding and
> recalculate new values with rounding errors and interpolations and ...
>
> Perhaps you may configure quick access group to your needs ...
>
> --
>
> regards
> Bernhard
>
> https://www.bilddateien.de
>
> Willy Williams schrieb am 30.12.21 um 14:06:
> >
> > I, too, find the separation of crop, rotate and perspective rather
> difficult to justify.  From my perspective of doing architectural and real
> estate photography, I'd prefer to have them all in a single module, not
> separated by retouch and exposure in the v3.0 RAW module order.
> >
> > Willy Williams
> >
> > 
> >
> > On 12/30/2021 at 07:36, Archie Macintosh wrote:
> >> On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 11:26, Andrew Greig 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I gave this a red hot go out of respect for the developers, but I
> miss having Crop and rotate in the one module because I have to perform
> those two operations in almost every shot...
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> I have to agree with Andrew: crop and rotate are operations I routinely
> use together – I almost never bother with perspective – so I, too, would
> prefer them to be together in a single module. (I can, of course, see that
> this preference is related to the kind of photography I do, and may not
> suit everyone.)
> >>
> >> (And this observation does not detract from my immense respect for, and
> gratitude to, the developers, for all their amazing work.)
> >>
> >>
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Fwd: [darktable-user] New crop module

[Bruce Williams]

Thank you one and all! Seems like my speedy mouse moves might have been the
issue! :)
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From: Archie Macintosh 
Date: Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] New crop module
To: Bruce Williams 


Hi Bruce

I think the trick is to pause after you right-click on the area, and wait
momentarily till the pixel dimensions are displayed in the centre of the
display.

mac


On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 at 01:29, Bruce Williams  wrote:

> Hi all,
> Just sitting down to record some "New features" video content, and am
> struggling with the new crop module.
> Sometimes, I open the module, mouse over the borders of the cropped area,
> and I can click/drag to resize the crop. And it works as it should.
> But other times, I'll do the exact same thing, and the cropped area
> refuses to resize, it simply gets dragged around.
> Is there some mystical keystroke I'm unaware of, or is this a bug?
> Cheers,
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[darktable-user] New crop module

[Bruce Williams]

Hi all,
Just sitting down to record some "New features" video content, and am
struggling with the new crop module.
Sometimes, I open the module, mouse over the borders of the cropped area,
and I can click/drag to resize the crop. And it works as it should.
But other times, I'll do the exact same thing, and the cropped area refuses
to resize, it simply gets dragged around.
Is there some mystical keystroke I'm unaware of, or is this a bug?
Cheers,
Bruce Williams
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Re: [darktable-user] Darktable site down?

[Bruce Williams]

Yep, broken for me, too.

Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

On Thu, 9 Sep 2021, 06:54 Niranjan Rao,  wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> Looks like SSL configuration issue. Chrome complains with following
> error message
>
> This site can’t provide a secure connection www.darktable.org uses an
> unsupported protocol.
> ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH
>
>
> Curl prints following error message
>
> curl: (35) error:14094410:SSL routines:ssl3_read_bytes:sslv3 alert
> handshake failure
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Niranjan
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Vignette tool

[Bruce Williams]

Andrew,
Hold ctrl to rotate the vignette.

Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

-- Forwarded message -
From: Andrew Greig 
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021, 11:12
Subject: [darktable-user] Vignette tool
To: darktable-user 


Hi all,

It seems that the vignette tool has the axes locked to either vertical or
horizontal. Is there any way that the axes could be free to rotate?

Something which I have found to be useful in some shots is to make the
subject look like they are caught in a searchlight  using the Vignette
tool. By using an ellipse on the vertical axis I can simulate a street
light. If using a horizontal axis I can simulate a headlight of a car with
a long ellipse. But I would like to use an axis running diagonally. Can
that be done at present?
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Edit to cover nipples

[Bruce Williams]

I would find the graphic you wish to use and save it as an .svg file (if
you're on Linux, use inkscape).
Then, add it to the watermarks folder, and then use the watermark module
you superimpose it over your photo.

Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021, 12:13
Subject: [darktable-user] Edit to cover nipples
To: 


Hi,

I wanna edit covering the nipples with a black strip or flowers or
butterfly  -  please guide me how to do this using DT.
Thanks

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Fwd: [darktable-user] darktable 3.6 released

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Alex,
You've got the development build for the next version (which presumably
will be 3.8, but who knows anything is possible these days!)
And thanks for the kind words.
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Date: Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.6 released
To: darktable-user 


Hello all
Firstly, thanks to the devs for this magnificent release - I am anxious to
check out the new version.

I have been running 3.4.xxx on Manjaro at home and at work on Windows.

Having watched Bruce William's videos on the new release (thanks for all
your work Bruce), I tried my first build (ever!) from source using the
instructions at the link below
https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/wiki/Build-instructions-for-Manjaro

The build and install worked and I added the link to the .desktop file and
darktable runs with opencl support detected *BUT* the version says
3.7.0+196~g0d72ed426
I assume this is incorrect and the version should say 3.6 etc.

Can someone confirm that this is, in fact, incorrect and point me in the
right direction. I am not expecting any users or devs to spend time giving
me step by step feedback but somewhere to start would be appreciated (maybe
a pointer on how to get the right package, if as I suspect I have pulled
the wrong version.)

I'll also need to find out how to clean up an incorrect build (uninstall
using the package manager and delete a few directories, I'm guessing) - I
will research this. I  have a backup restore point saved if backing out of
the build is not as straightforward as I assume.

Sorry to be so completely naive about building.

Regards to all and thanks again for such a magnificent project.
Stay well.
Alex



On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 at 18:16, Pascal Obry  wrote:

> We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.6.0!
>
> The github release is here:
> [
> https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.6.0](https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.6.0)
> .
>
> As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by
> github, but only our tar.xz file. the checksums are:
>
> ```
> $ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0.tar.xz
> 86bcd0184af38b93c3688dffd3d5c19cc65f268ecf9358d649fa11fe26c70a39
> darktable-3.6.0.tar.xz
> $ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0.3.dmg
> 12c9319d68dac5b1b5602bf470254467b90f5c5b9d2e93ea081d42884cfd4f80
> darktable-3.6.0.3.dmg
> $ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0-win64.exe
> aad925988545ff3c50f54243520e8481c695b38b209daa808a490113f6400374
> darktable-3.6.0-win64.exe
> ```
>
> When updating from the currently stable 3.4.x series, please bear in
> mind that your edits will be preserved during this process, but the new
> library and configuration will not be usable with 3.4.x any more.
>
> You are strongly advised to take a backup first.
>
>  Important note: to make sure that darktable can keep on supporting
> the raw file format for your camera, *please* read [this
> post](https://discuss.pixls.us/t/raw-samples-wanted/5420?u=lebedevri)
> on how/what raw samples you can contribute to ensure that we have the
> *full* raw sample set for your camera under CC0 license!
>
> - Almost 2680 commits to darktable+rawspeed since 3.4
> - 954 pull requests handled
> - 290 issues closed
>
> ## The Big Ones
>
> - Full rework of the import module. The new module allows you to see
>   thumbnails of your images before import and makes it easier to handle
>   multiple import tasks. The same dialog is now used for importing
>   from disk, card or camera.
>
>   When importing "in-place", images that are already present in
> darktable
>   are flagged and can be automatically excluded from the import.
>
>   Importing from a local drive won't use gphoto and so should work more
>   reliably on Windows.
>
> - A vector-scope is added to complement the current histogram,
>   waveform and parade views.
>
> - A new default demosaic algorithm (RCD) has been introduced, which
> should provide
>   better quality than the current default (PPG) without the long run-
> times
>   of AMaZE. the order of the demosaic algorithms has also been adjusted
> for clarity.
>
> - Support for "dual demosaic" has also been added, allowing you to
> combine
>   "RCD + VNG4" and "AMaZE + VNG4" for bayer sensors, for 

Re: [darktable-user] Print output image identification

[Bruce Williams]

Why not use the watermark module, and as the filename of each image as a
watermark?

Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

On Sun, 30 May 2021, 12:27 David Vincent-Jones,  wrote:

> I am going to 'rough' print about 50 images as a preview to printing a
> book. They will be used for the final selection and also for placement and
> ordering.
>
> I am looking for a way to print a file identification on each piece ...
> such as the file name but I do not see anything in the print-manager or in
> the script-manager that would be of service.
>
> What are others doing in this respect?
>
> David
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Newbie

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Thanks for the plugs, Martin and Archie! :)
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From: Archie Macintosh 
Date: Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Newbie
To: Leong KT 
Cc: Archie Macintosh , Monsieur N <
monsieu...@posteo.net>, darktable-user 


There's a comprehesive manual here:
https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/

(Though it can be a bit 'technical' till you get used to the concepts.


And there's an excellent series of videos by Bruce Williams, who
really knows how to make short training videos, here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/audio2u/videos

Take your time, and try things out for yourself.

Enjoy!

On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 at 10:39, Leong KT  wrote:
>
> Is my face red!
>
> I have downloaded and install it now. And it works with X100V files. I
guess I shall play with it for a while. It does not seem to be straight
forward like Lightroom to me, but it is a new concept.
>
> For example, does it keep a catalogue? If so, where is it?
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> Ka Tai
>
>
>
>
> > On 9 Apr 2021, at 16:18, Archie Macintosh  wrote:
> >
> > The Mac package works just fine. I’ve installed dt on MacOS using the
Mac packages up to and including Catalina.
> >
> > My current installation of dt using the Mac package is very stable. So
I have no hesitation in recommending it to you.
> >
> > Download the .dmg here:
> > https://www.darktable.org/install/#macos
> >
> > Enjoy!
> >
> > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 08:11, Leong KT  wrote:
> > Actually I use Mac, which encourages the user to be idiots. There is a
Mac version of Darktable, but I have been advised not to install from that.
Instead I need to go through a process which involves quite a bit of
command lines. That is why I think it is complicated. I guess I can try it
step by step.
> >
> > On the other hand, the main reason I want to switch is because
Lightroom 6 does not support X100V raw files. I have tried Adobe DNG
convertor a few weeks ago and it did not work either. I am glad to hear
that Darktable works for X100V.
> >
> > This is a great group. I shall keep in touch with my progress.
> >
> > Ka Tai
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 8 Apr 2021, at 18:22, Monsieur N  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Welcome to you !
> > >
> > > Do you use Windows or Linux ?
> > >
> > > N
> > >
> > > Le 08/04/2021 à 11:26, Leong KT a écrit :
> > >> I am a photographer and have been using Lightroom for many years. It
works fine for me. But I am really put off by the subscription model and
have stuck to Lightroom 6. Recently I bought the Fujifilm X100V. It is like
going back to the days when all I had was a beaten up Leica and a 35mm
lens. I can concentrate on the photo instead of the equipment.
> > >>
> > >> But Lightroom 6 does not support X100V raw files. I have to
subscribe to get the update.
> > >>
> > >> I am thinking of changing over to Darktable. Does it support X100V
raw files? Also, it seems that installing Darktable seems dauntingly
complicated. Is there a simple workaround?
> > >>
> > >> Thank you for your help.
> > >>
> > >> Ka
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Wacom tablet and DT and GIMP

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This might require a bit of work, but I'll be giving it a go when I get the
spare time:
https://www.davidrevoy.com/article70/set-the-led-display-of-the-wacom-intuos4-tablet-on-ubuntu-linux

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To: 


Thanks for that. I appreciate it
Andrew



Sent from my Galaxy


 Original message 
From: Michael Rasmussen 
Date: 7/4/21 9:00 pm (GMT+10:00)
To: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Wacom tablet and DT and GIMP

On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 12:36:02 +0200 (CEST)
Jean-Luc CECCOLI  wrote:

>
> CTL-6100WL works fine under Ubuntu 20.04, not tested with DT though,
> but I guess basic functions will work fine.
>
I have just purchased a Wacom Intuos S with Bluetooth. I will report
back how well it works on Debian Sid (Unstable).

BTW. Anybody knows whether this issue has current activity?
https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/1966

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Fwd: [darktable-user] Wacom tablet and DT and GIMP

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I'm using one, and it works to a point, under mint 20.
Rotary buttons don't map to any subscribe like they did under Windows. It
might be possible to fix this, but I just haven't spent the time to
investigate.
But the stylus works fine.

Cheers,
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021, 16:57
Subject: [darktable-user] Wacom tablet and DT and GIMP
To: darktable-user 


Hi All,

Are there any users of the Wacom Tablet under Linux who could recommend
a model that works well, or maybe everything works well.

Cheers

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Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Deselect images in filmstrip

[Bruce Williams]

Thanks Willy.

Cheers,
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It's also on p. 173 of the "new" user manual, Section 8.3.5.2. filmstrip.

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Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Deselect images in filmstrip
To: 


Am 12.02.21 um 23:44 schrieb Bruce Williams:
> Hi all,
> I vaguely recall that there is an odd quirk about how you de-select
> images in the filmstrip OF THE MAP PAGE.
> Would someone please remind me of what that is?
> A single click on a non-selected image doesn't do it.
> Ctrl+click doesn't do it.
> Shift+click doesn't do it.
> Thanks in advance!
> Cheers,
> Bruce Williams

Hi Bruce,
I learned a lot from your videos, proud to be able to give back a little
bit.

Ctrl+A = select all the pictures of the filmstrip

Ctrl+Shift+A = unselect all images

Found in Chapter 3.3.11.8
https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/darkroom_bottom_panel.html#darkroom_filmstrip


Works also in Map-View.

At the begin of the strip, a single left-click into the empty space does it.

My workflow:
Filter "collext images" / "narrow down search" / "metadata - geotagging"
/ "not tagged" reduces the strip to a "To Do-List" and pics get
unselected automaticly when they got a position.

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To: 


Am 12.02.21 um 23:44 schrieb Bruce Williams:
> Hi all,
> I vaguely recall that there is an odd quirk about how you de-select
> images in the filmstrip OF THE MAP PAGE.
> Would someone please remind me of what that is?
> A single click on a non-selected image doesn't do it.
> Ctrl+click doesn't do it.
> Shift+click doesn't do it.
> Thanks in advance!
> Cheers,
> Bruce Williams

Hi Bruce,
I learned a lot from your videos, proud to be able to give back a little
bit.

Ctrl+A = select all the pictures of the filmstrip

Ctrl+Shift+A = unselect all images

Found in Chapter 3.3.11.8
https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/darkroom_bottom_panel.html#darkroom_filmstrip


Works also in Map-View.

At the begin of the strip, a single left-click into the empty space does it.

My workflow:
Filter "collext images" / "narrow down search" / "metadata - geotagging"
/ "not tagged" reduces the strip to a "To Do-List" and pics get
unselected automaticly when they got a position.

Frank
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Hi all,
I vaguely recall that there is an odd quirk about how you de-select images
in the filmstrip OF THE MAP PAGE.
Would someone please remind me of what that is?
A single click on a non-selected image doesn't do it.
Ctrl+click doesn't do it.
Shift+click doesn't do it.
Thanks in advance!
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Question about github

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So, I did this:

bruce@admin:~/Downloads/darktable-dev/darktable$ git checkout release-3.4.1
error: The following untracked working tree files would be overwritten by
checkout:
src/tests/integration/-nop/expected.png
src/tests/integration/-nop/nop.xmp
src/tests/integration/0001-exposure/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0001-exposure/exposure.xmp
src/tests/integration/0002-local-contrast/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0002-local-contrast/local-contrast.xmp
src/tests/integration/0003-denoise-bilateral/denoise-bilateral.xmp
src/tests/integration/0003-denoise-bilateral/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0004-masks/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0004-masks/masks.xmp
src/tests/integration/0005-orientation-minus-90/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0005-orientation-minus-90/orientation-minus-90.xmp
src/tests/integration/0006-orientation-plus-90/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0006-orientation-plus-90/orientation-plus-90.xmp
src/tests/integration/0007-orientation-180/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0007-orientation-180/orientation-180.xmp
src/tests/integration/0008-flip-h/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0008-flip-h/flip-h.xmp
src/tests/integration/0009-flip-v/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0009-flip-v/flip-v.xmp
src/tests/integration/0010-flip-hv/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0010-flip-hv/flip-hv.xmp
src/tests/integration/0011-gdnd-90/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0011-gdnd-90/gdnd-90.xmp
src/tests/integration/0012-gdnd-45/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0012-gdnd-45/gdnd-45.xmp
src/tests/integration/0013-denoiseprofile-wavelets/denoiseprofile-wavelets.xmp
src/tests/integration/0013-denoiseprofile-wavelets/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0014-filmic-rgb/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0014-filmic-rgb/filmic-rgb.xmp
src/tests/integration/0015-shadhi-bilateral/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0015-shadhi-bilateral/shadhi-bilateral.xmp
src/tests/integration/0016-lowpass-bilateral/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0016-lowpass-bilateral/lowpass-bilateral.xmp
src/tests/integration/0017-monochrome/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0017-monochrome/monochrome.xmp
src/tests/integration/0018-perspective-corr/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0018-perspective-corr/perspective-corr.xmp
src/tests/integration/0019-color-mapping/color-mapping.xmp
src/tests/integration/0019-color-mapping/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0020-denoise-nlmeans/denoise-nlmeans.xmp
src/tests/integration/0020-denoise-nlmeans/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0021-retouch-wavelets/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0021-retouch-wavelets/retouch-wavelets.xmp
src/tests/integration/0022-color-zones/color-zones.xmp
src/tests/integration/0022-color-zones/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0023-channelmixer/channelmixer.xmp
src/tests/integration/0023-channelmixer/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0024-contrast-equalizer/contrast-equalizer.xmp
src/tests/integration/0024-contrast-equalizer/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0025-exposure-guided-filter/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0025-exposure-guided-filter/exposure-guided-filter.xmp
src/tests/integration/0026-haze-removal/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0026-haze-removal/haze-removal.xmp
src/tests/integration/0027-denoiseprofile-nlmeans/denoiseprofile-nlmeans.xmp
src/tests/integration/0027-denoiseprofile-nlmeans/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0028-highpass-overlay/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0028-highpass-overlay/highpass-overlay.xmp
src/tests/integration/0029-color-correction/color-correction.xmp
src/tests/integration/0029-color-correction/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0030-framing/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0030-framing/framing.xmp
src/tests/integration/0031-globaltonemap-drago/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0031-globaltonemap-drago/globaltonemap-drago.xmp
src/tests/integration/0032-watermark/expected.png
src/tests/integration/0032-watermark/watermark.xmp
src/tests/integration/0033-blending-modes-uniform/Readme.md
src/tests/integration/0033-blending-modes-uniform/blending-modes-uniform.xmp
src/tests/integration/0033-blending-modes-uniform/expected.pn
Aborting

What have I missed?
Sorry for the noob questions. This is like trying to learn a language from
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[darktable-user] Question about github

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Hi all,
Still trying to wrap my head around using github.
Can someone explain why when I do:

bruce@admin:~/Downloads/darktable-dev/darktable$ git branch
* master

...all I see is master?
I expected to see a branch for 3.4.1
Am I misunderstanding something here?
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Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Bruce Williams]

Patrick,
Thanks for the info, although I don't know how to create an alias. Do those
commands go inside the bash script?
Also, I followed your advice to create folders inside .config (except I
called them darktable-3.4 and darktable-master) and then point the bash
scripts to those folders.
But when I launch darktable 3.4 from the bash script, it creates new
library.db, data.db etc in .config/darktable (not the folder
.config/darktable-3.4)
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Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
To: darktable-user 


* Bruce Williams  [01-17-21 15:41]:
> Michael,
> Thanks for the suggested tweaks to my bash scripts.
> Despite implementing those changes, I'm still unable to save presets of
> Collected Images in 3.4, but CAN still save new presets of Collected
IMages
> in my master (3.5) branch.
> Also, 3.5 is still seeing all the same presets I've created in 3.4.
> #baffled

move ~/.config/darktable
to   ~/.config/darktable.34
and copy to
 ~/.config/darktable.35

then call darktable version 3.4 as
 darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable.34
and version 3.5 as
 darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable.35

and I would create aliases rather than the long command lines.

alias dt34='darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable.34'
alias dt35='darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable.35'

should accomplish what you desire

note that you will start with matching configurations, only differences
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Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Bruce Williams]

Michael,
Thanks for the suggested tweaks to my bash scripts.
Despite implementing those changes, I'm still unable to save presets of
Collected Images in 3.4, but CAN still save new presets of Collected IMages
in my master (3.5) branch.
Also, 3.5 is still seeing all the same presets I've created in 3.4.
#baffled
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Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
To: 


* David Vincent-Jones  [01-17-21 12:57]:
> After using dt for many years I find myself totally confused with the
latest
> filing system. I have always relied on a date based hierarchy and
augmented
> with extensive tagging. I have used tags for both simple elements as well
as
> 'projects'. I assume that what I called projects now forms the basis of
> collections. Being unable now to simply sort by folder hierarchy is really
> quite a nuisance.
>
> On 2021-01-16 9:53 p.m., Bruce Williams wrote:
> > OK, just made an interesting discovery which might give somebody an
idea of
> > what's going on. Hint: I still don't have a clue!
> > I've installed 2 versions from github.
> > The afore-mentioned 3.4 build in opt/darktable/3.4 AND a build of 3.5
> > installed in opt/darktable/master
> > I have 2 bash scripts (big thanks to CodingDave for the assistance
there!)
> > which I use for launching.
> > The first looks like so:
> >
> > #!/bin/bash
> > /opt/darktable-3.4/bin/darktable --library
> > ~/.cache/darktable/3.4/darktable_3.4.db --configdir
~/.cache/darktable/3.4/
> >
> > And the master version looks like this:
> >
> > #!/bin/bash
> > /opt/darktable/master/bin/darktable --library
> > ~/.cache/darktable/master/darktable_master.db --configdir
> > ~/.cache/darktable/master/
> >
> > Now, I THOUGHT that by putting the library and config files into
separate
> > directories, I would be free of any conflicts.
> > But I've just noticed that Collections I was saving in 3.4 are showing
up
> > in my copy of 3.5 as well. So somewhere, a directory or a file is being
> > shared.
> > Can anyone help me out with what I've missed here?
> > Many thanks (in advance).
> > Cheers,
> > Bruce Williams
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> > From: Bruce Williams 
> > Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 1:33 PM
> > Subject: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
> > To: darktable-user 
> >
> >
> > Anton,
> > No, I meant the collections that you create and save through the
"collect
> > images" module.
> > I create collections based on shoot date (mostly) so I can quickly get
back
> > to a certain batch of images.
> > Cheers,
> > Bruce Williams.
> >
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: Anton Aylward 
> > Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021, 13:30
> > Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
> > To: 
> >
> >
> > On 16/01/2021 01:01, Bruce Williams wrote:
> > > Hi all!
> > > I THOUGHT I'd found a limit to the number of Collections that could be
> > saved.
> > > But it looks more and more like wherever my Collections are stored,
> > darktable can
> > > no longer write/execute on that location, as not only can I not store
any
> > NEW
> > > Collection, I can't delete an existing one either.
> > > I'm on Linux MInt 20 and dt 3.4.0+88~g0e4ecc1fa-dirty.
> > > I have library, keyboardrc and .db files located in .cache in my user
> > filesystem area.
> >
> > Yes, that's where the database and the 'more intimate' Darktable files
are,
> > ~/.config/darktable
> >

Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Bruce Williams]

OK, just made an interesting discovery which might give somebody an idea of
what's going on. Hint: I still don't have a clue!
I've installed 2 versions from github.
The afore-mentioned 3.4 build in opt/darktable/3.4 AND a build of 3.5
installed in opt/darktable/master
I have 2 bash scripts (big thanks to CodingDave for the assistance there!)
which I use for launching.
The first looks like so:

#!/bin/bash
/opt/darktable-3.4/bin/darktable --library
~/.cache/darktable/3.4/darktable_3.4.db --configdir ~/.cache/darktable/3.4/

And the master version looks like this:

#!/bin/bash
/opt/darktable/master/bin/darktable --library
~/.cache/darktable/master/darktable_master.db --configdir
~/.cache/darktable/master/

Now, I THOUGHT that by putting the library and config files into separate
directories, I would be free of any conflicts.
But I've just noticed that Collections I was saving in 3.4 are showing up
in my copy of 3.5 as well. So somewhere, a directory or a file is being
shared.
Can anyone help me out with what I've missed here?
Many thanks (in advance).
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From: Bruce Williams 
Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 1:33 PM
Subject: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
To: darktable-user 


Anton,
No, I meant the collections that you create and save through the "collect
images" module.
I create collections based on shoot date (mostly) so I can quickly get back
to a certain batch of images.
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: Anton Aylward 
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021, 13:30
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
To: 


On 16/01/2021 01:01, Bruce Williams wrote:
> Hi all!
> I THOUGHT I'd found a limit to the number of Collections that could be
saved.
> But it looks more and more like wherever my Collections are stored,
darktable can
> no longer write/execute on that location, as not only can I not store any
NEW
> Collection, I can't delete an existing one either.
> I'm on Linux MInt 20 and dt 3.4.0+88~g0e4ecc1fa-dirty.
> I have library, keyboardrc and .db files located in .cache in my user
filesystem area.

Yes, that's where the database and the 'more intimate' Darktable files are,
~/.config/darktable

But what do you mean by "Collections"?  Do you mean the image files?
Those are kept on disk where ever you've chosen to keep them.
I keep all of mine under ~/MyPhotographs/
The unclassified I organise by date (year, month) with each year on a
separate XFS
filesystem, the file systems being managed by LVM.
Why XFS? Why LVM? So I can grow it later if needed.
The "Classified" are according to the reason for classification - event,
location,
project...
The point is that there is always file space to grow into, space were the
images
can be saved.

Trust me: disks are cheap.
SSD is getting cheaper, but I'd use it for things like need more rapid
access like
the root file system.  As long as my chassis and motherboard can handle it
I can
keep adding 'bulk storage'.  If all fails I can add a NFS server for the
purely
'data' storage, and the image files+sidebars fall into that category.

So: what do you mean by 'Collections'?

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Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Bruce Williams]

Anton,
No, I meant the collections that you create and save through the "collect
images" module.
I create collections based on shoot date (mostly) so I can quickly get back
to a certain batch of images.
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

-- Forwarded message -
From: Anton Aylward 
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021, 13:30
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
To: 


On 16/01/2021 01:01, Bruce Williams wrote:
> Hi all!
> I THOUGHT I'd found a limit to the number of Collections that could be
saved.
> But it looks more and more like wherever my Collections are stored,
darktable can
> no longer write/execute on that location, as not only can I not store any
NEW
> Collection, I can't delete an existing one either.
> I'm on Linux MInt 20 and dt 3.4.0+88~g0e4ecc1fa-dirty.
> I have library, keyboardrc and .db files located in .cache in my user
filesystem area.

Yes, that's where the database and the 'more intimate' Darktable files are,
~/.config/darktable

But what do you mean by "Collections"?  Do you mean the image files?
Those are kept on disk where ever you've chosen to keep them.
I keep all of mine under ~/MyPhotographs/
The unclassified I organise by date (year, month) with each year on a
separate XFS
filesystem, the file systems being managed by LVM.
Why XFS? Why LVM? So I can grow it later if needed.
The "Classified" are according to the reason for classification - event,
location,
project...
The point is that there is always file space to grow into, space were the
images
can be saved.

Trust me: disks are cheap.
SSD is getting cheaper, but I'd use it for things like need more rapid
access like
the root file system.  As long as my chassis and motherboard can handle it
I can
keep adding 'bulk storage'.  If all fails I can add a NFS server for the
purely
'data' storage, and the image files+sidebars fall into that category.

So: what do you mean by 'Collections'?

/a


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[darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?

[Bruce Williams]

Hi all!
I THOUGHT I'd found a limit to the number of Collections that could be
saved.
But it looks more and more like wherever my Collections are stored,
darktable can no longer write/execute on that location, as not only can I
not store any NEW Collection, I can't delete an existing one either.
I'm on Linux MInt 20 and dt 3.4.0+88~g0e4ecc1fa-dirty.
I have library, keyboardrc and .db files located in .cache in my user
filesystem area.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
Cheers,
Bruce Williams
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Fwd: [darktable-user] darktable 3.4.0

[Bruce Williams]

Willy,
Thanks for the kind words.
There are more videos to come!
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

-- Forwarded message -
From: Willy Williams 
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020, 05:24
Subject: [darktable-user] darktable 3.4.0
To: darktable-user 


My thanks to the entire crew of developers for this wonderful release,
and to Bruce Williams for four terrific videos (so far) to educate and
amuse.  Blessings to all for a wonderful New Year!

Willy Williams

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Fwd: [darktable-user] DT v3.4, no more fav modules

[Bruce Williams]

You want the new module manager window.
I covered this in this video:
https://youtu.be/L7adCF2FvU8
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: GianLuca Sarto 
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020, 07:27
Subject: [darktable-user] DT v3.4, no more fav modules
To: 


Hello All,

I have just moved to DT3.4: developers, thanks for the great work!

Unless I am missing something, I don't see a way to tag a few modules as
"favorites" as in the old version.

I think it was handy, because I tend to use most of the time the same
4-5 modules.

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Fwd: [darktable-user] Fwd: [darktable-dev] darktable 3.4 released

[Bruce Williams]

Thanks Dave!
Not only for me, but for others following the link. :)
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From: Coding Dave 
Date: Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Fwd: [darktable-dev] darktable 3.4 released
To:
Cc: darktable-user 


Thanks Pascal for the great work!!! And merry Xmas.

@ Bruce, remove the closing brace:

https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.4.0

Bruce Williams  schrieb am Do., 24. Dez. 2020, 11:29:

> Pascal,
> Would you be able to check that link, please? :)
> I'm getting a 404 error.
> Cheers,
> Bruce Williams
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>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Pascal Obry 
> Date: Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 8:06 PM
> Subject: [darktable-dev] darktable 3.4 released
> To: darktable , <
> darktable-user@lists.darktable.org>
>
>
>
> We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.4.0!
>
> The github release is here:
> [
> https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.4.0](https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.4.0)
> .
>
> As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by
> github, but only our tar.xz. the checksums are:
>
> ```
> $ sha256sum darktable-3.4.0.tar.xz
> 6dd3de1f5ea9f94af92838c0be5ff30fdaa599aa1d737dcb562f9e0b2b2dbdda
> darktable-3.4.0.tar.xz
>
> $ sha256sum darktable-3.4.0.dmg
> da72476993160d1cb2ff8e40c6bd402f1032884936a9eb818197c936d4b22a14
> darktable-3.4.0.dmg
>
> $ sha256sum darktable-3.4.0.exe
> 29dee565292a4a72443874bb970663d46420f5a9ba74a5acfcb3251a48c86f7c
> darktable-3.4.0.exe
> ```
>
> When updating from the currently stable 3.2.x series, please bear in
> mind that your edits will be preserved during this process, but the new
> library and configuration will not be usable with 3.2.x any more, so
> you are strongly advised to take a backup first.
>
>  Important note: to make sure that darktable can keep on supporting
> the raw file format for your camera, *please* read [this post](
> https://discuss.pixls.us/t/raw-samples-wanted/5420?u=lebedevri) on
> how/what raw samples you can contribute to ensure that we have the *full*
> raw sample set for your camera under CC0 license!
>
> - Almost 2146 commits to darktable+rawspeed since 3.2
> - 700 pull requests handled
> - 116 issues closed
>
> ## The Big Ones
>
> - The user manual is made available at the same time as the
>   release. Note that this user manual is also the last version as a
>   new project has taken over the lead on this. The goal is to have
>   an up-to-date user manual by using a simpler format
>   to write text for contributors. Feedback or contributions for the
>   new format are welcome at https://github.com/darktable-org/dtdocs.
>
>   Current manual (multilingual):
>
>   https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/
>
>   New manual (English only):
>
>   https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/
>
> - The tethering view has been reworked and is now more stable.
>
> - The histogram is back on the tethering view (it was disabled in 3.2
>   due to lack of time)
>
> - A new module grouping feature has been introduced. This makes the "more
> modules" module
>   (at the bottom right of the darkroom) obsolete and this module has
> therefore been removed.
>
>   The module grouping feature allows users to create their own groups
>   of modules. A number of pre-defined module groups are included as presets
>   (default, minimal, scene-referred, display-referred,
>   all modules) as well as a new default module group tab layout (technical
> / grading / effects),
>   which beter organizes the modules according to their purpose.
>
> - Module masking is now enhanced for use with scene-referred workflows. A
> new masking implementation
>   has been added, with fully unbounded blending modes, 

[darktable-user] Fwd: [darktable-dev] darktable 3.4 released

[Bruce Williams]

Pascal,
Would you be able to check that link, please? :)
I'm getting a 404 error.
Cheers,
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-- Forwarded message -
From: Pascal Obry 
Date: Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 8:06 PM
Subject: [darktable-dev] darktable 3.4 released
To: darktable , <
darktable-user@lists.darktable.org>



We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.4.0!

The github release is here:
[
https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.4.0](https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.4.0)
.

As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by
github, but only our tar.xz. the checksums are:

```
$ sha256sum darktable-3.4.0.tar.xz
6dd3de1f5ea9f94af92838c0be5ff30fdaa599aa1d737dcb562f9e0b2b2dbdda
darktable-3.4.0.tar.xz

$ sha256sum darktable-3.4.0.dmg
da72476993160d1cb2ff8e40c6bd402f1032884936a9eb818197c936d4b22a14
darktable-3.4.0.dmg

$ sha256sum darktable-3.4.0.exe
29dee565292a4a72443874bb970663d46420f5a9ba74a5acfcb3251a48c86f7c
darktable-3.4.0.exe
```

When updating from the currently stable 3.2.x series, please bear in
mind that your edits will be preserved during this process, but the new
library and configuration will not be usable with 3.2.x any more, so
you are strongly advised to take a backup first.

 Important note: to make sure that darktable can keep on supporting the
raw file format for your camera, *please* read [this post](
https://discuss.pixls.us/t/raw-samples-wanted/5420?u=lebedevri) on how/what
raw samples you can contribute to ensure that we have the *full* raw sample
set for your camera under CC0 license!

- Almost 2146 commits to darktable+rawspeed since 3.2
- 700 pull requests handled
- 116 issues closed

## The Big Ones

- The user manual is made available at the same time as the
  release. Note that this user manual is also the last version as a
  new project has taken over the lead on this. The goal is to have
  an up-to-date user manual by using a simpler format
  to write text for contributors. Feedback or contributions for the
  new format are welcome at https://github.com/darktable-org/dtdocs.

  Current manual (multilingual):

  https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/

  New manual (English only):

  https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/

- The tethering view has been reworked and is now more stable.

- The histogram is back on the tethering view (it was disabled in 3.2
  due to lack of time)

- A new module grouping feature has been introduced. This makes the "more
modules" module
  (at the bottom right of the darkroom) obsolete and this module has
therefore been removed.

  The module grouping feature allows users to create their own groups
  of modules. A number of pre-defined module groups are included as presets
  (default, minimal, scene-referred, display-referred,
  all modules) as well as a new default module group tab layout (technical
/ grading / effects),
  which beter organizes the modules according to their purpose.

- Module masking is now enhanced for use with scene-referred workflows. A
new masking implementation
  has been added, with fully unbounded blending modes, which allows
parametric masking
  either in linear RGB or in JzCzHz color spaces. A boost factor slider has
been
  introduced in the masking GUI so that users may set thresholding
parameters above 100%
  to mask pixels in HDR images.

  JzCzHz is derived from JzAzBz, which is a perceptual color space developed
  for HDR and published in 2017, with better properties than CIE Lab from
1976,
  allowing near-perfect hue linearity, for a robust hue/saturation masking.
  A JzCzHz hue mask will produce the same output whether it is used
  before input color profile, after output color profile, or anywhere
in-between,
  providing an important consistency improvement over HSL masking.

- A new color calibration module has been added as a full-featured hub for
color correction.
  It was first intended as a scene-referred (unbounded) rewrite of the old
channel mixer,
  allowing corrections of the color space, both for creative and corrective
purposes.

  Because channel mixing is how white balancing and chromatic adaptation
  are implemented, color calibration also introduces robust chromatic
adaptation transforms,
  Bradford (from ICC v4) and CAT16 (from CIECAM 2016), improving the color
rendition
  of the white-balanced final image. The module provides a library of all
standard
  CIE illuminants and two machine-learning illuminant detection algorithms,
using
  different assumptions, for when no neutral colors can be sample

Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Linux question

[Bruce Williams]

Thanks for the kind words, Martin!

Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: Martin Šoltis 
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020, 09:28
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Linux question
To: Bruce Williams 


Hi Bruce,

I am very glad I was able to help you.

Your videos are so inspiring and I admire your work.

Wish you the best.

Martin


On štvrtok 19. novembra 2020 20:19:35 CET you wrote:
> Well, that's just a bit too bloody simple, isn't it? 
> Thanks for that!
>
> Cheers,
> Bruce Williams.
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Martin Šoltis 
> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020, 23:17
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Linux question
> To: 
>
>
> Hi Bruce,
>
> just open DT, select all images and click on "write sidecar files" in the
> History stack module.
>
> Regards
>
> Martin
>
> On štvrtok 19. novembra 2020 13:04:18 CET Bruce Williams wrote:
> > Thanks Matt.
> > So, is there a way to now force the creation of sidecar files?
> > Cheers,
> > Bruce Williams.
> >
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: Matt Maguire 
> > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020, 22:58
> > Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Linux question
> > To: Bruce Williams 
> > Cc: darktable-user 
> >
> >
> > Bruce, I assume the edits are stored purely in the darktable sqlite db,
in
> > your .config folder, and the XMP don't exist anywhere on the system due
to
> > the permissions problem you mentioned.
> >
> > /Matt
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 at 22:54, Bruce Williams  wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > I have a folder which I didn't realise had been created by another
user
> > > account on my linux box (ie: not @bruce)
> > > I've just noticed that the RAW files in this folder do NOT have xmp
> > > sidecar files sitting alongside them, and I assume that the reason for
> > > that
> > > is that I imported them under my user account, and my user account
>
> didn't
>
> > > have write privileges on the folder.
> > > But those RAW files do have keywords and development settings, which
>
> means
>
> > > that the xmp files have been written to some other location (because
>
> linux
>
> > > is clever like that!).
> > > Anyone know where those xmp files will be?
> > > I've changed the owner of the folder now, and would like to move the
xmp
> > > files to the folder so they sit with the RAW files.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Bruce Williams
> > > ------
> > >
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> > > shuttersincpodcast.com
> > >
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Well, that's just a bit too bloody simple, isn't it? 
Thanks for that!

Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

-- Forwarded message -
From: Martin Šoltis 
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020, 23:17
Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Linux question
To: 


Hi Bruce,

just open DT, select all images and click on "write sidecar files" in the
History stack module.

Regards

Martin


On štvrtok 19. novembra 2020 13:04:18 CET Bruce Williams wrote:
> Thanks Matt.
> So, is there a way to now force the creation of sidecar files?
> Cheers,
> Bruce Williams.
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Matt Maguire 
> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020, 22:58
> Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Linux question
> To: Bruce Williams 
> Cc: darktable-user 
>
>
> Bruce, I assume the edits are stored purely in the darktable sqlite db, in
> your .config folder, and the XMP don't exist anywhere on the system due to
> the permissions problem you mentioned.
>
> /Matt
>
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 at 22:54, Bruce Williams  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I have a folder which I didn't realise had been created by another user
> > account on my linux box (ie: not @bruce)
> > I've just noticed that the RAW files in this folder do NOT have xmp
> > sidecar files sitting alongside them, and I assume that the reason for
> > that
> > is that I imported them under my user account, and my user account
didn't
> > have write privileges on the folder.
> > But those RAW files do have keywords and development settings, which
means
> > that the xmp files have been written to some other location (because
linux
> > is clever like that!).
> > Anyone know where those xmp files will be?
> > I've changed the owner of the folder now, and would like to move the xmp
> > files to the folder so they sit with the RAW files.
> > Cheers,
> > Bruce Williams
> > ------
> >
> > brucewilliamsphotography.com
> > shuttersincpodcast.com
> >
> > e-mail  | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> |
> > LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> |
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[Bruce Williams]

Thanks Matt.
So, is there a way to now force the creation of sidecar files?
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

-- Forwarded message -
From: Matt Maguire 
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020, 22:58
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Linux question
To: Bruce Williams 
Cc: darktable-user 


Bruce, I assume the edits are stored purely in the darktable sqlite db, in
your .config folder, and the XMP don't exist anywhere on the system due to
the permissions problem you mentioned.

/Matt

On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 at 22:54, Bruce Williams  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have a folder which I didn't realise had been created by another user
> account on my linux box (ie: not @bruce)
> I've just noticed that the RAW files in this folder do NOT have xmp
> sidecar files sitting alongside them, and I assume that the reason for that
> is that I imported them under my user account, and my user account didn't
> have write privileges on the folder.
> But those RAW files do have keywords and development settings, which means
> that the xmp files have been written to some other location (because linux
> is clever like that!).
> Anyone know where those xmp files will be?
> I've changed the owner of the folder now, and would like to move the xmp
> files to the folder so they sit with the RAW files.
> Cheers,
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Hi all,
I have a folder which I didn't realise had been created by another user
account on my linux box (ie: not @bruce)
I've just noticed that the RAW files in this folder do NOT have xmp sidecar
files sitting alongside them, and I assume that the reason for that is that
I imported them under my user account, and my user account didn't have
write privileges on the folder.
But those RAW files do have keywords and development settings, which means
that the xmp files have been written to some other location (because linux
is clever like that!).
Anyone know where those xmp files will be?
I've changed the owner of the folder now, and would like to move the xmp
files to the folder so they sit with the RAW files.
Cheers,
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Establishing a New Module Layout

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Don't worry, Matt, it WILL be, but not until it's in a stable release. :)
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Establishing a New Module Layout

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I haven't tried any builds post the stable version of 3.2.1, but wanted
ask, why is the favorites tab being removed? Or is this just a temporary
situation during the development cycle?
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: Patrick Shanahan 
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020, 12:38
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Establishing a New Module Layout
To: darktable forum 


* David Vincent-Jones  [10-25-20 21:06]:
> I am still finding problems in establishing a 'custom' module layout now
> that the Favorites column is removed. The following describes my approach
> and some apparent problems that have resulted.
>
> a. I started with a 'scene referred' module set and then deleted all
modules
> that I would not generally use. That module grouping was then saved.
>
> b. Then I opened an image and turned on the most common modules and saved
> each 'on' module as a named preset.
>
> c. Then I was able to see my module selection correctly shown in the
'active
> module' column.
>
> d. Next I saved all of the active modules (with check marks) in a new
style.
>
> My hope was that this style would place only my common modules (in the
> correct order) in the active column for other images. To my surprise
modules
> from other groups not only appeared but were turned on. For instance
> filmic-rgb and base-curve were both showing as being active!!
>
> I do understand that this is under development but I wonder if others are
> having similar problems and have found a way around the difficulties.

create a module/collection named "Fav" or your choice
populate it with your favorite modules.

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Fwd: [darktable-user] Crop orientation

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Patrick,
Well, this is embarrassing!
I hadn't noticed that my application window was not maximised, and was
actually sitting ever-so-slightly over the border of my monitor!
D'oh!
And thanks for the recognition! :)
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From: Patrick Shanahan 
Date: Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Crop orientation
To: darktable-user 


* Bruce Williams  [08-31-20 08:19]:
> OK, clearly I missed the memo.
> You used to be able to select to rotate the crop orientation... like if
you
> wanted to do a portrait orientation crop of an image shot in landscape
mode.
> But it appears that the rotate circular arrow thingy has gone now.
> How does one execute this in 3.2.1?

It is still there in master.  Perhaps you have a faulty build??? or your
right panel is too narrow?

btw, tks for the videos.

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[darktable-user] Crop orientation

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OK, clearly I missed the memo.
You used to be able to select to rotate the crop orientation... like if you
wanted to do a portrait orientation crop of an image shot in landscape mode.
But it appears that the rotate circular arrow thingy has gone now.
How does one execute this in 3.2.1?
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Fwd: [darktable-user] How to zero star rate an image?

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Try hitting the number one key twice.
First press will rate the image a 1.
Second press will clear that and mark it as unrated.

Cheers,
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-- Forwarded message -
From: Mark Heieis 
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020, 05:23
Subject: [darktable-user] How to zero star rate an image?
To: darktable forum 


Hi,

I import images with zero rating and then apply ratings accordingly.
Previous to 3.0.2, I could zero rate an image by toggling star-1
(assuming only star 1 is toggled on) if the rating is no longer desired.

I must be missing something, how do I zero rate an image from the UI, as
I seem to be unable to remove ratings now.

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Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Brush

[Bruce Williams]

Martin,
Thanks for the kind words.
Is there a way to do it with darktable's current masking tools?
Not really.
But what I've learned to do is to explore the Mask Blur, Feather, Contrast
and whatever the 4th one is (can't quite think of it right now).
I can usually get to where I want with those controls, but I'll confess, a
brush tool like Lightroom would be awesome.
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From: Martin Šoltis 
Date: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Brush
To: 


I see it's dificult to describe but yes you get it :-)

That's exactly what I thought.

So it's possible to do something like this ?

Btw. Thanks Bruce to explain what i didn't know to explain.
I am not English native and sometimes I am struggling to explain what i
have
on my mind.

And your videos are really great.

Martin


On utorok 11. augusta 2020 1:59:14 CEST Bruce Williams wrote:
> Ahhh, I think I get it.
> A brush that you can set to a low opacity and then just continue to brush
> multiple times to build up the density of the mask?
> Yeah, that would be sweet.
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> From: Martin Šoltis 
> Date: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 9:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Brush
> To: 
>
>
> Hi, yes
>
> i know all masks but i always miss this one feature that when in brush
> exposure multiple times over one place it will do more times mask that i
> want
> to do if you understand what i want to explain.
>
> If not, i will try to find some video of this feature.
>
> Best  regards.
>
> Martin
>
> On streda 29. júla 2020 2:24:03 CEST Terry Pinfold wrote:
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> >  DT has mask options including drawn and parametric masks. Once you
>
> get
>
> > used to these they are actually way better than the adjustment brush in
>
> LR.
>
> > I personally use the path tool for drawn masks as it provides more
> > flexibility than the brush tool. I wish the brush tool replicated LRs
>
> brush
>
> > tool, but the paths tool for drawn masks leaves LR for dead so I just
>
> don't
>
> > bother with the brush tool for creating the masks.
> >
> > On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 10:16, komodo  wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have to say I highly appreciate your work.
> > >
> > > But I must say that what i miss is brush as is in the Lightroom.
> > >
> > > To do some adjustments and do very subtle changes. Is it so big
problem
>
> ?
>
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Martin
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Brush

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Ahhh, I think I get it.
A brush that you can set to a low opacity and then just continue to brush
multiple times to build up the density of the mask?
Yeah, that would be sweet.
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From: Martin Šoltis 
Date: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Brush
To: 


Hi, yes

i know all masks but i always miss this one feature that when in brush
exposure multiple times over one place it will do more times mask that i
want
to do if you understand what i want to explain.

If not, i will try to find some video of this feature.

Best  regards.

Martin


On streda 29. júla 2020 2:24:03 CEST Terry Pinfold wrote:
> Hi Martin,
>  DT has mask options including drawn and parametric masks. Once you
get
> used to these they are actually way better than the adjustment brush in
LR.
> I personally use the path tool for drawn masks as it provides more
> flexibility than the brush tool. I wish the brush tool replicated LRs
brush
> tool, but the paths tool for drawn masks leaves LR for dead so I just
don't
> bother with the brush tool for creating the masks.
>
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 10:16, komodo  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have to say I highly appreciate your work.
> >
> > But I must say that what i miss is brush as is in the Lightroom.
> >
> > To do some adjustments and do very subtle changes. Is it so big problem
?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Gradient mask question

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David,
I'm not at my desktop right now, but I would imagine that you would, as you
suggested, use two graduated density filters together.
Theoretically, you would create one filter with a really short transition
(the hard edge portion) to delineate the horizon (I'm assuming it's a
landscape you're trying to process, but it may not be so).
Then, you would add a second graduated density module, and orient the
filter to the same position and angle as the first instance. But this one,
you have a soft (wide) transition.
Jointly, the two filters should give you what you are looking for.
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: Bill Martz 
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020, 03:44
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Gradient mask question
To: David Vincent-Jones 
Cc: darktable forum 


I don't see an answer to your question yet, so here's a demo from your
Black Printing Problem post:

Regards,
Bill Martz

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:42 PM David Vincent-Jones 
wrote:

> I am looking for the way to place a hard limit to the mask on the maximum
> side. If I remember correctly this can be done with 2 masks used together
> but I forgot how it works.
>
> I need to start a mask with full density at a specific part of the image
> and then fade the mask away from that line. Does somebody remember how that
> works?
>
> David
>
> . and before somebody asks the question ... Manjaro/Arch/XFCE/daily git
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Brush

[Bruce Williams]

Try episodes 13-16 here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s41rmYxOQ0g=PLlYWvzmJQTrRq7JrYdD7k3-8-v-uHnhK_

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From: 01myphotos01 <01myphoto...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Brush
To: Terry Pinfold , komodo , <
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Cc: darktable forum 


Can someone, please , advise steps for using masks or send a video.  I
always get confused ( if I may say) while using masks in DT. Thanks.



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


 Original message 
From: Terry Pinfold 
Date: 2020-07-29 5:54 a.m. (GMT+05:30)
To: komodo 
Cc: darktable forum 
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Brush

Hi Martin,
 DT has mask options including drawn and parametric masks. Once you get
used to these they are actually way better than the adjustment brush in LR.
I personally use the path tool for drawn masks as it provides more
flexibility than the brush tool. I wish the brush tool replicated LRs brush
tool, but the paths tool for drawn masks leaves LR for dead so I just don't
bother with the brush tool for creating the masks.

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 10:16, komodo  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have to say I highly appreciate your work.
>
> But I must say that what i miss is brush as is in the Lightroom.
>
> To do some adjustments and do very subtle changes. Is it so big problem ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Martin
>
>
>
>
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Importing, How do you do it?

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Rod,
If you're on Linux, check out Rapid Photo Downloader by Damon Lynch.
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From: Rod Cerkoney 
Date: Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:38 AM
Subject: [darktable-user] Importing, How do you do it?
To: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org 


Newbie alert, just started using this program.

So I finally figured out that dt does not copy files from an  SD Card (or
camera) into a disk location. (I find this odd coming from a Lightroom
environment). I must use a file manager to copy files to a permanent disk
location, then "import" into dt. I find that awkward and I'm looking for a
better solution, one that is more elegant.

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Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Import Lightroom DNGs to DT

[Bruce Williams]

Quote:

They are because original RAW files have a sidecar file written by
Lightroom and DNGs have not because Lightroom can write directly into the
DNG image.
___

But even though Lightroom CAN do that, will it not create an xmp sidecar
file if you activate that option in preferences, and then press ctrl+s (or
cmd+s on a Mac)?

Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: Graham Byrnes 
Date: Wed., 12 Feb. 2020, 21:57
Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Import Lightroom DNGs to DT
To: Bruce Williams 


Alternatively... if you don't plan on re-editing 80,000 images, you could
just export them all as tiff.

Le mer. 12 févr. 2020 à 11:55, Graham Byrnes  a écrit :

> Try this... I think it gives the same advice as Bruce and does apply to
> dng files...
>
>
> https://mathiashueber.com/migrate-from-lightroom-to-open-source-alternative/
>
>
> Le mer. 12 févr. 2020 à 11:49, Bruce Williams  a
> écrit :
>
>> Oh, apologies then. I didn't realise the process for dng files would be
>> different.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bruce Williams.
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: Subhash Fotografie 
>> Date: Wed., 12 Feb. 2020, 21:22
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Import Lightroom DNGs to DT
>> To: Bruce Williams 
>>
>>
>> Hi Bruce,
>>
>> I like your videos very much and have seen episode 1. Thank you for that!
>> But in episode 1 you deal with original RAW files not with DNGs as far as I
>> remember.
>>
>> [Bruce Williams  schrieb am 12.2.2020 um 21:10 Uhr:]
>>
>> >You definitely need to watch episode number 1 of my video series on
>> >YouTube, where I discuss exactly this problem.
>> >Search "understanding darktable".
>> >Sorry, I'm on my phone and don't have a link handy.
>>
>> >Cheers,
>> >Bruce Williams.
>>
>> >-- Forwarded message -
>> >From: Pascal Obry 
>> >Date: Wed., 12 Feb. 2020, 20:22
>> >Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Import Lightroom DNGs to DT
>> >To: Subhash Fotografie , Darktable-User
>> >
>>
>>
>> >Le mercredi 12 février 2020 à 10:17 +0100, Subhash Fotografie a écrit :
>> >> I worked with Lightroom for some years. I have a database of about
>> >> 8 photos, most of them DNGs. Lightroom saves developing of theses
>> >> files in the file itself. No sidecar file. When I import one to DT it
>> >> seems the developing is not imported. For example the cropping is not
>> >> imported. How to deal with that?
>>
>> >You can extract the XMP from the DNG for dt to be able to handle it. I
>> >think this has already been discussed. I don't have the exiv2
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Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Import Lightroom DNGs to DT

[Bruce Williams]

Oh, apologies then. I didn't realise the process for dng files would be
different.

Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: Subhash Fotografie 
Date: Wed., 12 Feb. 2020, 21:22
Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Import Lightroom DNGs to DT
To: Bruce Williams 


Hi Bruce,

I like your videos very much and have seen episode 1. Thank you for that!
But in episode 1 you deal with original RAW files not with DNGs as far as I
remember.

[Bruce Williams  schrieb am 12.2.2020 um 21:10 Uhr:]

>You definitely need to watch episode number 1 of my video series on
>YouTube, where I discuss exactly this problem.
>Search "understanding darktable".
>Sorry, I'm on my phone and don't have a link handy.

>Cheers,
>Bruce Williams.

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>From: Pascal Obry 
>Date: Wed., 12 Feb. 2020, 20:22
>Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Import Lightroom DNGs to DT
>To: Subhash Fotografie , Darktable-User
>


>Le mercredi 12 février 2020 à 10:17 +0100, Subhash Fotografie a écrit :
>> I worked with Lightroom for some years. I have a database of about
>> 8 photos, most of them DNGs. Lightroom saves developing of theses
>> files in the file itself. No sidecar file. When I import one to DT it
>> seems the developing is not imported. For example the cropping is not
>> imported. How to deal with that?

>You can extract the XMP from the DNG for dt to be able to handle it. I
>think this has already been discussed. I don't have the exiv2
>incantation at hand to do that but you should be able to find it or
>someone else will help.

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[Bruce Williams]

You definitely need to watch episode number 1 of my video series on
YouTube, where I discuss exactly this problem.
Search "understanding darktable".
Sorry, I'm on my phone and don't have a link handy.

Cheers,
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Le mercredi 12 février 2020 à 10:17 +0100, Subhash Fotografie a écrit :
> I worked with Lightroom for some years. I have a database of about
> 8 photos, most of them DNGs. Lightroom saves developing of theses
> files in the file itself. No sidecar file. When I import one to DT it
> seems the developing is not imported. For example the cropping is not
> imported. How to deal with that?

You can extract the XMP from the DNG for dt to be able to handle it. I
think this has already been discussed. I don't have the exiv2
incantation at hand to do that but you should be able to find it or
someone else will help.

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Fwd: [darktable-user] Re: Darktable 3.0 looks great, but my fonts are far too large...

[Bruce Williams]

If it's just the font size that is an issue, why not change the font size
via the darktable.css stylesheet?
I've produced a video about this which will be out tomorrow.
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: Shane Simmons 
Date: Tue., 31 Dec. 2019, 04:04
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Re: Darktable 3.0 looks great, but my fonts
are far too large...
To: Matthias Bodenbinder 
Cc: darktable-user 


Yes, I know.  I edited the wrong darktablerc file, as I replied earlier.

I've already edited the ~/.config/darktable/darktablerc, and I know about
the screen_dpi_overwrite option. I set mine to 112.
I just forgot about that version of the config file.  I was editing the one
/usr/share/darktable, instead.

- Original Message -
From: "Matthias Bodenbinder" 
To: "darktable-user" 
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 8:43:42 AM
Subject: [darktable-user] Re: Darktable 3.0 looks great, but my fonts are
far too large...

Am 28.12.19 um 22:12 schrieb Shane Simmons:
> I just installed DT 3.0 from the unofficial Ubuntu Handbook PPA, the
other day, but the issue I have is that the fonts are much too large on my
4K monitor, and I've tried adjusting the /screen_dpi_overwrite /setting in
darktablerc, to no avail.  In fact it doesn't even seem
> seem to work anymore.  My monitor is an ASUS PB287Q, with a screen area
of 621x341mm, to give an idea of the scale of these fonts (I reduced this
image to half-size - 1920x1024) --
>
>
> I need to reduce the overall UI scaling, or fonts, by about half, to get
a reasonable scaling here.  How do I do that? The old method of editing the
darktablerc file to fit the screen resolution doesn't work anymore (And
what gives with this anyway?)
>
> Any ideas? As is it is now, the program is almost unusable with these
oversized fonts.  Also, I am running Kubuntu 19.10, on a Ryzen 7 2700X,
with a GTX 1080 Ti, if it matters.
>
> -- Shane
>
> /"Understanding is a three-edged sword." //-- Kosh Naranek/
>
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Just edit $HOME/.config/darktable/darktablerc

This is the parameter you want to change:
screen_dpi_overwrite=-1.0

Play with values around 100: screen_dpi_overwrite=120.

Make sure that darktable is not running while you edit this file.



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Fwd: [darktable-user] Lost the Filtering, Sort Order, Groups and Preferences bar

[Bruce Williams]

Andrew nailed it.
Thanks mate!
What threw me was that I was still seeing "1 image of x in current
collection" displayed in the centre, but all of the other UI elements had
disappeared. Very odd.
Toggling that arrow button fixed it.
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From: Jean-Luc Lacroix 
Date: Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Lost the Filtering, Sort Order, Groups and
Preferences bar
To: 


Hi Bruce,

Try to rename darktablerc (usually in $HOME/.config/darktable) and restart
DT.

PS: Love your YT tuto's. Keep them coming!

Cheers.

Jean-Luc

On 27/10/19 08:07, Bruce Williams wrote:

Hi guys,
Is there a keyboard shortcut to hide the Filtering, Sort Order, Groups and
Preferences bar?
I had it a moment ago, and now it's gone.
Done a reboot. Still not there.
I'm guessing there's a shortcut and I've accidentally hit it without
realising, and because I can't access Preferences, I can't discover what
the keyboard shortcut it.
Or, is darktable doing something weird?
And if the latter, what's the best way to invoke a default view? Is there
some linux equivalent of an .ini file that can be deleted to force a
refresh?
Thanks in advance.
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[darktable-user] Lost the Filtering, Sort Order, Groups and Preferences bar

[Bruce Williams]

Hi guys,
Is there a keyboard shortcut to hide the Filtering, Sort Order, Groups and
Preferences bar?
I had it a moment ago, and now it's gone.
Done a reboot. Still not there.
I'm guessing there's a shortcut and I've accidentally hit it without
realising, and because I can't access Preferences, I can't discover what
the keyboard shortcut it.
Or, is darktable doing something weird?
And if the latter, what's the best way to invoke a default view? Is there
some linux equivalent of an .ini file that can be deleted to force a
refresh?
Thanks in advance.
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Struggling here...

[Bruce Williams]

Thanks for that!
Coding Dave was gracious enough to spend two hours with me the other night,
explaining how git works, as well.
I'm confident now that I'll be able to handle this going forward. Fingers
crossed!
Thanks Dave, and everyone else who has lent their expertise and experience.
Much appreciated!
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: Druuna 
Date: Sun., 13 Oct. 2019, 03:15
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Struggling here...
To: 
Cc: 


Correction on earlier advise, by me (and others).

On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 20:22:54 +1100
Bruce Williams Wrote:

> Also, what is the recommended procedure regarding an already-installed dev
> version?
> Do you leave it where it is?
> Do you uninstall it?
> Does the update simply overwrite the previous build?

I mentioned cleaning this out every so often, but not all the time. This is
_not_ how you should approach this.

The contents of /opt/darktable should always be deleted before installing a
new version.

I ran into a "bug", which in the end was nothing more then leftovers from
the
previous build in /opt/darktable. This was pointed out to me by parafin
after
I filed a bug-report on github 

Just wanted to let you know.


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Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Struggling here...

[Bruce Williams]

Jacques,


*First of all: I noticed you are part of darktable's documentation team. In*


*that capacity do you commit your work/changes, using git, to the
repositoryin any way?*
I know NOTHING about how git works! :)
Yes, I'm helping with the documentation, but only in a copy-editing sense.
And that input is being facilitated by adding comments to the threaded
conversation on github.
Someone else (Pascal, I think) then merges my edits with the master.


*I'm asking because I've been assuming that you only want to get the
latestdevelopment version on your linux box to play around with.*

Correct.

*Are you by any chance pulling darktable from outside the main branche?*

No idea! :)


*Have you tried to install a 2.7.0 .deb package in the near past byany
chance?*

Nope.

Because of your mention about 'git pull' saying 'already up to date': It's
not clear to me if you tried my instructions or have been working with your
existing copy and used mine as a rough reference only.

Tried both. Followed all of your instructions, as well as tried combining
your instructions with the instructions found at
https://redmine.darktable.org/projects/darktable/wiki/Building_darktable_20



*Starting clean might be a good idea (that is assuming you haven't
alreadytried).*
Yeah, tried that, too.

I have just followed your cmd line output to the letter.
Everything appeared the same for me as you got.
Once I got to the end of it all, I ran ./build.sh
It failed.
Because I'm a numpty who didn't put sudo at the head of the cmake command.
:)
Once I did add sudo, it worked!

Thanks heaps for your help! Much appreciated. :)

Is there a reasonably approachable set of instructions that I can read up
on all this?
Seems to me there's a lot of incantations, spells, and dancing around in
the moonlight to make this shit happen, and I don't understand what all the
instructions actually mean.
But I'd like to learn.

Cheers,
Bruce Williams




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From: Druuna 
Date: Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Struggling here...
To: Bruce Williams 
Cc: darktable-user 


Hi Bruce,

We basically have the same setup; a production user and a different test
version user. Mint is an up to date version, no problems there.

Oh, wow I see mention of 2018 in the copyright message output you posted!
Definitely not what you want to see.

First of all: I noticed you are part of darktable's documentation team. In
that capacity do you commit your work/changes, using git, to the repository
in any way?

I'm asking because I've been assuming that you only want to get the latest
development version on your linux box to play around with. I myself am in
this category.

Are you by any chance pulling darktable from outside the main branche?
(Don't
ask me how to do or check that, that is beyond my git knowledge). The git
clone command I gave will not do this btw. It will clone the main branche.

Secondly: Have you tried to install a 2.7.0 .deb package in the near past by
any chance? I'm not aware of there being one, but I just want to cover the
bases.

Because of your mention about 'git pull' saying 'already up to date': It's
not clear to me if you tried my instructions or have been working with your
existing copy and used mine as a rough reference only.

Starting clean might be a good idea (that is assuming you haven't already
tried).

After a git clone the local branche is definitely not up-to-date when it
comes
to rawspeed!

In my previous mail I showed the commands and not the output that is shown
on
my side of things. Might come in handy as a reference:

This is shown on my box when I start clean:

  /data/General/Git/darktable $ id
  uid=1004(jade) gid=1004(jade) groups=1004(jade),27(sudo),1(jd)

  /data/General/Git/darktable $ cd ..
  /data/General/Git $ rm -rf darktable/

  /data/General/Git $ git clone git://github.com/darktable-org/darktable.git
  Cloning into 'darktable'...
  remote: Enumerating objects: 173514, done.
  remote: Total 173514 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 173514
  Receiving objects: 100% (173514/173514), 342.21 MiB | 21.09 MiB/s, done.
  Resolving deltas: 100% (135569/135569), done.

  /data/General/Git $ cd darktable/

  /data/General/Git/darktable $ git describe
  release-2.7.0-1959-ga6b9b9058

  /data/General/Git/darktable $ git submodule init
  Submodule
'src/external/rawspeed' (https://github.com/darktable-org/rawspeed.git)
registered for path 'src/external/rawspeed'

  /data/General/Git/darktable $ git submodule update
  Cloning into '/data/General/Git/darktable/src/external/rawspeed'...
  Submodule path 'src/external/rawspeed': checked out
'71f0bfd3a486f63d4cae9159f170a00351a2f677'

If I pull/update immediately after that I get:

  /data/General/Git/darktable $ git pull
  Already up to date.

  /data/General/Git/darktable $ git submodule update
  (no output is shown)

And some version info after all this:

  /data/General/Git/darktable $ git tag

Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Struggling here...

[Bruce Williams]

Yep, running mint 19.2.
I have darktable 2.6.2 running under my standard user account.
And I have set up a second user account specifically for running the dev
version (if I can ever get it running... Well, I have 2.7.0 working, but it
is way out of date now. No filmic rgb, no tone equalizer, old interface,
etc).

Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: Druuna 
Date: Tue., 8 Oct. 2019, 21:42
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Struggling here...
To: Bruce Williams 
Cc: darktable-user 


Hi Bruce,

Quick answer, I'm in a bit of a rush.

To my knowledge the "git tag" command only shows basic version info. On my
side it also shows what you are seeing:

  git tag
  0.3
  0.4
  accels-premerge
  post0.9
  release-0.5
  .
  .
  release-2.6.2
  release-2.7.0
  release0.4

So that's nothing to worry about (Atm my development version is
2.7.0+1959~ga6b9b9058).

On my machine I have 2 darktable versions:
- The stable 2.6.2 one I installed with Debian, which resides
in /usr/bin/darktable and is in my PATH setting.
- The development version, which can be found in /opt/darktable/XYZ and is
not in my PATH.

If I run:

  darktable --version

The one available from my PATH is run and I get:

  this is darktable 2.6.2
  .
  .

If I run:

  /opt/darktable/bin/darktable --version

The development version is run and I get:

  this is darktable 2.7.0+1959~ga6b9b9058
  .
  .

Might the same scenario be true for what you are seeing?

Which distro are you using (Mint right; if I remember your videos
correctly).

Have to run, I just thought that this might be the case. Let me know and
I'll
get back to you.

Op Tue, 8 Oct 2019 21:13:21 +1100
Bruce Williams Schreef:

> Jacques,
> Thanks for the detailed instructions.
> Sadly, I still only have 2.7.0. :(
>
>
> this is darktable 2.7.0
> copyright (c) 2009-2018 johannes hanika
> darktable-...@lists.darktable.org
>
> compile options:
>   bit depth is 64 bit
>   normal build
>   SSE2 optimized codepath enabled
>   OpenMP support enabled
>   OpenCL support enabled
>   Lua support disabled
>   Colord support enabled
>   gPhoto2 support enabled
>   GraphicsMagick support enabled
>   OpenEXR support enabled
>
> When I do 'git pull', I get a return of 'Already up to date'.
> When I do 'git tag', the list doesn't show all the random text after the
> version number (eg. +1954~g50ad5ba6c), just 2.7.0 and that's it.
> For example
>
> release-2.4.0rc2
> release-2.4.1
> release-2.4.2
> release-2.4.3
> release-2.4.4
> release-2.5.0
> release-2.6.0
> release-2.6.0rc0
> release-2.6.0rc1
> release-2.6.0rc2
> release-2.6.1
> release-2.6.2
> release-2.7.0
>
> Not sure what I'm missing.
>
> Cheers,
> Bruce Williams
>
>
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> From: Druuna 
> Date: Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 11:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Struggling here...
> To: Druuna 
> Cc: Bruce Williams , darktable-user <
> darktable-user@lists.darktable.org>
>
>
> I forgot one step:
>
> > You also need the rawspeed module:
> >
> > git submodule init
> > git submodule update
>
> Should be:
>
> You also need the rawspeed module:
>
>  cd /home/darktable/darktable   # <--- !!!
>  git submodule init
>  git submodule update
>
> Sorry.
>
> Jacques
>
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Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Struggling here...

[Bruce Williams]

Jacques,
Thanks for the detailed instructions.
Sadly, I still only have 2.7.0. :(


this is darktable 2.7.0
copyright (c) 2009-2018 johannes hanika
darktable-...@lists.darktable.org

compile options:
  bit depth is 64 bit
  normal build
  SSE2 optimized codepath enabled
  OpenMP support enabled
  OpenCL support enabled
  Lua support disabled
  Colord support enabled
  gPhoto2 support enabled
  GraphicsMagick support enabled
  OpenEXR support enabled

When I do 'git pull', I get a return of 'Already up to date'.
When I do 'git tag', the list doesn't show all the random text after the
version number (eg. +1954~g50ad5ba6c), just 2.7.0 and that's it.
For example

release-2.4.0rc2
release-2.4.1
release-2.4.2
release-2.4.3
release-2.4.4
release-2.5.0
release-2.6.0
release-2.6.0rc0
release-2.6.0rc1
release-2.6.0rc2
release-2.6.1
release-2.6.2
release-2.7.0

Not sure what I'm missing.

Cheers,
Bruce Williams


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From: Druuna 
Date: Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Struggling here...
To: Druuna 
Cc: Bruce Williams , darktable-user <
darktable-user@lists.darktable.org>


I forgot one step:

> You also need the rawspeed module:
>
> git submodule init
> git submodule update

Should be:

You also need the rawspeed module:

 cd /home/darktable/darktable   # <--- !!!
 git submodule init
 git submodule update

Sorry.

Jacques


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Fwd: [darktable-user] Struggling here...

[Bruce Williams]

OK, so it seems that doing "sudo cmake" was part of the solution.
That resulted in a completed log with no errors.
But I'm still on the same version I was on before.
2.7.0 (and no string of characters after it, like I've seen in other
people's screenshots).
Which makes me think I have not refreshed from git correctly.
I've issued this command:

git clone https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable.git

The tail end of which shows:

release-2.6.0rc0
release-2.6.0rc1
release-2.6.0rc2
release-2.6.1
release-2.6.2
release-2.7.0

This makes me think I'm not seeing the daily builds.
Do I need some other git clone command in order to see the daily versions?
Sorry for sounding like a complete noob. It's just that I'm a complete
noob. :)
Cheers,
Bruce Williams




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From: Druuna 
Date: Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Struggling here...
To: 


Hi Bruce,

Just to make sure: Are you running these commands as root or as a normal
user?

The cmake and make steps should be run as normal user, the make install step
as root. The whole thing could be done as root, but that would be a bad
habit :-)

I would expect a "permission denied" message to show up somewhere if you
tried
running make install as a normal user.

Just had a look at /opt/darktable: All files and dirs should be owned by
root:root.

About the installed dev version: Most of the time I overwrite, every so
often
 I completely clean out /opt/darktable to start fresh.

Hope this helps.

Jacques.


Op Mon, 7 Oct 2019 20:22:54 +1100
Bruce Williams Schreef:

> Hi gang,
> I'm trying to update to the latest version of 2.7, but I don't understand
> what's not working.
> After running "cmake --build "/home/darktable/darktable/build" --target
> install -- -j16" from the command prompt, I get, at the end of the log,
the
> following:
>
> [100%] Built target darktable-chart
> Install the project...
> -- Install configuration: "RELWITHDEBINFO"
> -- Installing: /opt/darktable/share/locale/af/LC_MESSAGES/darktable.mo
> CMake Error at po/cmake_install.cmake:41 (file):
>   file INSTALL cannot copy file "/home/darktable/darktable/build/po/af.mo"
> to
>   "/opt/darktable/share/locale/af/LC_MESSAGES/darktable.mo".
> Call Stack (most recent call first):
>   cmake_install.cmake:42 (include)
>
>
> Makefile:85: recipe for target 'install' failed
> make: *** [install] Error 1
>
> Andreas S. suggested that I should get gettext, but when I tried that, I
> got the message that it's already installed and at the latest version.
> Would anyone be able to offer some assistance please?
> And if you could explain what is happening, that would be greatly
> appreciated! I'm not going to learn if you just say "do this, then that,
> and it'll work". :)
>
> Also, what is the recommended procedure regarding an already-installed dev
> version?
> Do you leave it where it is?
> Do you uninstall it?
> Does the update simply overwrite the previous build?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Cheers,
> Bruce Williams
>
>

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Fwd: [darktable-user] Struggling here...

[Bruce Williams]

Nope, definitely got space to burn! :)
Which directory are you querying re: restrictive rights?
home/darktable/darktable? Nope... definitely ok to write.
Cheers,
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Date: Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Struggling here...
To: Bruce Williams 
Cc: darktable-user 


heya,

is your disk maybe full such that the copy fails? does the directory
exist but has too restrictive rights?

re: update: i usually overwrite the old files.

cheers,
 jo

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 11:23 AM Bruce Williams  wrote:
>
> Hi gang,
> I'm trying to update to the latest version of 2.7, but I don't understand
what's not working.
> After running "cmake --build "/home/darktable/darktable/build" --target
install -- -j16" from the command prompt, I get, at the end of the log, the
following:
>
> [100%] Built target darktable-chart
> Install the project...
> -- Install configuration: "RELWITHDEBINFO"
> -- Installing: /opt/darktable/share/locale/af/LC_MESSAGES/darktable.mo
> CMake Error at po/cmake_install.cmake:41 (file):
>   file INSTALL cannot copy file
"/home/darktable/darktable/build/po/af.mo" to
>   "/opt/darktable/share/locale/af/LC_MESSAGES/darktable.mo".
> Call Stack (most recent call first):
>   cmake_install.cmake:42 (include)
>
>
> Makefile:85: recipe for target 'install' failed
> make: *** [install] Error 1
>
> Andreas S. suggested that I should get gettext, but when I tried that, I
got the message that it's already installed and at the latest version.
> Would anyone be able to offer some assistance please?
> And if you could explain what is happening, that would be greatly
appreciated! I'm not going to learn if you just say "do this, then that,
and it'll work". :)
>
> Also, what is the recommended procedure regarding an already-installed
dev version?
> Do you leave it where it is?
> Do you uninstall it?
> Does the update simply overwrite the previous build?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Cheers,
> Bruce Williams
>
>
>

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[Bruce Williams]

Hi gang,
I'm trying to update to the latest version of 2.7, but I don't understand
what's not working.
After running "cmake --build "/home/darktable/darktable/build" --target
install -- -j16" from the command prompt, I get, at the end of the log, the
following:

[100%] Built target darktable-chart
Install the project...
-- Install configuration: "RELWITHDEBINFO"
-- Installing: /opt/darktable/share/locale/af/LC_MESSAGES/darktable.mo
CMake Error at po/cmake_install.cmake:41 (file):
  file INSTALL cannot copy file "/home/darktable/darktable/build/po/af.mo"
to
  "/opt/darktable/share/locale/af/LC_MESSAGES/darktable.mo".
Call Stack (most recent call first):
  cmake_install.cmake:42 (include)


Makefile:85: recipe for target 'install' failed
make: *** [install] Error 1

Andreas S. suggested that I should get gettext, but when I tried that, I
got the message that it's already installed and at the latest version.
Would anyone be able to offer some assistance please?
And if you could explain what is happening, that would be greatly
appreciated! I'm not going to learn if you just say "do this, then that,
and it'll work". :)

Also, what is the recommended procedure regarding an already-installed dev
version?
Do you leave it where it is?
Do you uninstall it?
Does the update simply overwrite the previous build?

Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Bruce Williams


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Fwd: [darktable-user] copy masks

[Bruce Williams]

I haven't actually tried this, I'm just thinking out loud
I know (and I demonstrated this in one of my videos) that you can open the
xmp sidecar files in a text editor.
I did it to demonstrate the way the hierarchy of tags was stored.
But I'm wondering if you would be able in any way to copy the parts of the
xml file which pertain to those masks, from one xml file to another?
Clearly, this is not an ideal solution (if it works at all), but it might
get you moving forward until someone provides a better answer.
Good luck!

Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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Date: Sat., 5 Oct. 2019, 05:16
Subject: [darktable-user] copy masks
To: 


Dear darktable community,


I have been using DT extensively over the last two years. Now I come to
the point that I dare to ask some questions which I could not figure out
my self.

In order to process bracketing images from a tripod I would love to copy
masks from one image to another. When simply copy and pase the module
stack to the new image, the drawn masks are gone. I guess that is
intentional for most images, however, in some circumstances it would be
useful to apply them as well.

Any ideas how I could achieve that?


cheers, Richard


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Niranjan,
Yes, I do create video tutorials and publish them on youtube. :)
Thank you for the support.
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Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Tag hierarchy
To: Bruce Williams 


I think you are same person based on site links in the footer of email.

Assuming that you are the same person who posts videos on youtube, big fan
of your videos. I have watched many, but not all videos, goal is to watch
all the videos.

Taught me a lot about darktable.  I'm just a beginner who firmly used to
believe in "auto" mode but now has courage to switch to just raw. It was
slow transition from auto to jpeg+raw to raw.

A BIG thank you for contributing such a useful material.


Regards,

Niranjan
On 9/19/19 9:37 PM, Bruce Williams wrote:

Yeah, just use the "add more images" option and add another search term.
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Date: Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Tag hierarchy
To: 


Thank you. It works.

Looks like it's executing SQL "like" clause with one parameter. I tried
injecting "OR" and "AND" clauses, but it did not work.

Any ideas about selecting multiple tags?


Regards,

Niranjan
On 9/19/19 7:58 PM, August Schwerdfeger wrote:
> If you select a tag from the hierarchical view, it will only collect
> images with the exact tag that was selected ('family' in this case).
>
> If you want to show images from more than one tag at a time, you have to
> type a wildcard ('family|%' in this case) into the text box.
>
> --
> August Schwerdfeger
> aug...@schwerdfeger.name
>
> On 9/19/19 9:15 PM, Niranjan Rao wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>>
>> On version 2.6.2/Ubuntu 18.04.
>>
>>
>> lighttable/collect images/tag works nicely and shows hierarchical
>> view. However I'm noticing a problem and want to make sure
>> understanding is wrong or it's a bug or feature is not implemented
>> that way.
>>
>>
>> If I have tag structure like family|member1 and family|member2, if I
>> select member1 or member2 I see corresponding images. However if I was
>> selecting family, I was expecting to see union of member1 and member2
>> set - or all the photos under family node. It does not show anything
>> as all the images are hierarchical in this case.
>>
>>
>> Am I misunderstanding the tag usage?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Niranjan
>>
>>

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From: Niranjan Rao 
Date: Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Tag hierarchy
To: 


Thank you. It works.

Looks like it's executing SQL "like" clause with one parameter. I tried
injecting "OR" and "AND" clauses, but it did not work.

Any ideas about selecting multiple tags?


Regards,

Niranjan
On 9/19/19 7:58 PM, August Schwerdfeger wrote:
> If you select a tag from the hierarchical view, it will only collect
> images with the exact tag that was selected ('family' in this case).
>
> If you want to show images from more than one tag at a time, you have to
> type a wildcard ('family|%' in this case) into the text box.
>
> --
> August Schwerdfeger
> aug...@schwerdfeger.name
>
> On 9/19/19 9:15 PM, Niranjan Rao wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>>
>> On version 2.6.2/Ubuntu 18.04.
>>
>>
>> lighttable/collect images/tag works nicely and shows hierarchical
>> view. However I'm noticing a problem and want to make sure
>> understanding is wrong or it's a bug or feature is not implemented
>> that way.
>>
>>
>> If I have tag structure like family|member1 and family|member2, if I
>> select member1 or member2 I see corresponding images. However if I was
>> selecting family, I was expecting to see union of member1 and member2
>> set - or all the photos under family node. It does not show anything
>> as all the images are hierarchical in this case.
>>
>>
>> Am I misunderstanding the tag usage?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Niranjan
>>
>>

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Fwd: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git

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Hi all,
Well, I can happily report that I eventually managed to get darktable 2.7.0
up and running, with thanks to 3 or 4 most-generous people here on the list!
You know who you are thanks heaps!
But now I'm wondering... is 2.7.0 the most recent build?
I ask because I was under the impression that the interface had undergone a
bit of an overhaul, and what I'm seeing looks just like 2.6.2.
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Date: Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git
To: 


On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 17:23:25 +1000
Bruce Williams  wrote:

> /home/darktable/darktable/src/common/imageio_rawspeed.cc:185:10:
> error: ‘uint32’ was not declared in this
> scope

Try to edit the file at the given line number,
either changing uint32 to uint32_t or to
guint32. I'm not a C++ or GUI programmer, so I
can't be sure. But it shouldn't really matter.

But if there are many of those errors, it's more
likely, that you are missing some .h file.

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Seems like everything WAS going ok, until this point

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[ 29%] Building C object src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/dtgtk/button.c.o
[ 29%] Building C object
src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/dtgtk/drawingarea.c.o
[ 29%] Building C object src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/dtgtk/expander.c.o
[ 29%] Building C object
src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/dtgtk/gradientslider.c.o
/home/darktable/darktable/src/common/imageio_rawspeed.cc: In function
‘dt_imageio_retval_t dt_imageio_open_rawspeed(dt_image_t*, const char*,
dt_mipmap_buffer_t*)’:
/home/darktable/darktable/src/common/imageio_rawspeed.cc:185:10: error:
‘uint32’ was not declared in this scope
 for (uint32 i=0; i<(sizeof(legacy_aliases)/sizeof(legacy_aliases[1]));
i++)
  ^~
/home/darktable/darktable/src/common/imageio_rawspeed.cc:185:10: note:
suggested alternative: ‘guint32’
 for (uint32 i=0; i<(sizeof(legacy_aliases)/sizeof(legacy_aliases[1]));
i++)
  ^~
  guint32
/home/darktable/darktable/src/common/imageio_rawspeed.cc:185:22: error: ‘i’
was not declared in this scope
 for (uint32 i=0; i<(sizeof(legacy_aliases)/sizeof(legacy_aliases[1]));
i++)
  ^
[ 29%] Building C object src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/dtgtk/icon.c.o
[ 29%] Building C object src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/dtgtk/paint.c.o
[ 29%] Building C object
src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/dtgtk/resetlabel.c.o
[ 30%] Building C object
src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/dtgtk/sidepanel.c.o
[ 30%] Building C object
src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/dtgtk/togglebutton.c.o
src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/build.make:964: recipe for target
'src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/common/imageio_rawspeed.cc.o' failed
make[2]: ***
[src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/common/imageio_rawspeed.cc.o] Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
CMakeFiles/Makefile2:1504: recipe for target
'src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/all' failed
make[1]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/all] Error 2
Makefile:151: recipe for target 'all' failed
make: *** [all] Error 2
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Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git
To: darktable-user 


If you need some package (such as libjpeg) to compile a source (such as
darktable), then you need to install the respective "developer" version of
libjpeg. I.e. the headers of the library which darktable requires. A quick
search on [1] (not sure if your system uses Debian though) reveals that for
libjpeg the correct package would be libjpeg-devel. So "apt install
libjpeg-devel" shoud do the trick. I'm no longer fluent in apt, but
something like "apt search libjpeg" or "apt find jpeg" should also give you
an idea. "man apt" will help there...

[1]
https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default=all=any=names=libjpeg


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On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 3:55 PM Bruce Williams  wrote:

> Hi again,
> So, the list of required software mentions
> libsqlite3, libjpeg, libpng, libpugixml, rawspeed (supplied), gtk+-3,
> cairo, lcms2, exiv2, tiff, curl, gphoto2, dbus-glib, fop, openexr,
> libsoup2.4
>
> I tried opening a terminal and issuing commands like
> $ sudo apt-get install 
>
> ...where  is any of the aforementioned prerequisites.
> Most of them failed with a message that said "unable to locate the
> package".
> What did I do wrong?
>
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> Subje

Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git

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Yeah... nah.
Tried that. Still getting "unable to locate package" messages.
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Linux Mint, which I think is based on Ubuntu.
I'll give 'apt' (sans 'get') a go!
Thanks. :)
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Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git
To: Bruce Williams 


Is your system Ubuntu based?
If it is then "apt" is the right command not "apt-get"

Am 30.08.19 um 09:54 schrieb Bruce Williams:

Hi again,
So, the list of required software mentions
libsqlite3, libjpeg, libpng, libpugixml, rawspeed (supplied), gtk+-3,
cairo, lcms2, exiv2, tiff, curl, gphoto2, dbus-glib, fop, openexr,
libsoup2.4

I tried opening a terminal and issuing commands like
$ sudo apt-get install 

...where  is any of the aforementioned prerequisites.
Most of them failed with a message that said "unable to locate the package".
What did I do wrong?

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Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git
To: Bruce Williams 


It would be nice to have for a reference a definitive set of instructions
for this complete operation

David
On 8/28/19 10:59 PM, Bruce Williams wrote:

Aa!
I was looking for that list of dependencies!
Further down the page in the section on "Git version", there's a line which
says "You can find a list of them here."
...but it doesn't contain a link.
Thanks for the heads up!
I shall try again.
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From: August Schwerdfeger 
Date: Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git
To: 


According to this error log, LLVM not being found is just a warning -- what
is actually tripping the build up is the absence of the XML parsing
program, 'xmllint'.

Have you tried installing all the packages in the list of dependencies on
Darktable's install page (https://www.darktable.org/install/#source)? That
should have tracked in the XML parser.
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On 8/29/19 12:26 AM, Bruce Williams wrote:

Hi all,
Yes, I'm finally taking the plunge and trying to get my head around git and
all that comes with that. :)
I've created a new user profile on my linux box just so I don't screw up my
main user profile.
Anyway... got as far as $ ./build.sh
A bunch of text flew past, which all seemed to be going ok until

-- Found desktop-file-validate
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LL

Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git

[Bruce Williams]

Linux Mint, which I think is based on Ubuntu.
I'll give 'apt' (sans 'get') a go!
Thanks. :)
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From: thokster 
Date: Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git
To: Bruce Williams 


Is your system Ubuntu based?
If it is then "apt" is the right command not "apt-get"

Am 30.08.19 um 09:54 schrieb Bruce Williams:

Hi again,
So, the list of required software mentions
libsqlite3, libjpeg, libpng, libpugixml, rawspeed (supplied), gtk+-3,
cairo, lcms2, exiv2, tiff, curl, gphoto2, dbus-glib, fop, openexr,
libsoup2.4

I tried opening a terminal and issuing commands like
$ sudo apt-get install 

...where  is any of the aforementioned prerequisites.
Most of them failed with a message that said "unable to locate the package".
What did I do wrong?

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Date: Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git
To: Bruce Williams 


It would be nice to have for a reference a definitive set of instructions
for this complete operation

David
On 8/28/19 10:59 PM, Bruce Williams wrote:

Aa!
I was looking for that list of dependencies!
Further down the page in the section on "Git version", there's a line which
says "You can find a list of them here."
...but it doesn't contain a link.
Thanks for the heads up!
I shall try again.
Cheers,
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From: August Schwerdfeger 
Date: Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git
To: 


According to this error log, LLVM not being found is just a warning -- what
is actually tripping the build up is the absence of the XML parsing
program, 'xmllint'.

Have you tried installing all the packages in the list of dependencies on
Darktable's install page (https://www.darktable.org/install/#source)? That
should have tracked in the XML parser.
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On 8/29/19 12:26 AM, Bruce Williams wrote:

Hi all,
Yes, I'm finally taking the plunge and trying to get my head around git and
all that comes with that. :)
I've created a new user profile on my linux box just so I don't screw up my
main user profile.
Anyway... got as far as $ ./build.sh
A bunch of text flew past, which all seemed to be going ok until

-- Found desktop-file-validate
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
CMake Warning at CMakeLists.txt:311 (message):
  Could not find LLVM 3.9+


CMake Warning at CMakeLists.txt:312 (message):
  Test-compilation of OpenCL programs can not be done.


-- Test-compilation of OpenCL programs is disabled.
-- Missing jsonschema, problems in noiseprofiles.json might go unnoticed
-- Missing xsltproc
-- Missing saxon-xslt
-- No xslt interpreter found
-- Missing xmllint
CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:361 (message):
  Some external programs couldn't be found


-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
See also "/home/darktable/darktable/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".
See also "/home/darktable/darktable/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log".
-

Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git

[Bruce Williams]

Hi again,
So, the list of required software mentions
libsqlite3, libjpeg, libpng, libpugixml, rawspeed (supplied), gtk+-3,
cairo, lcms2, exiv2, tiff, curl, gphoto2, dbus-glib, fop, openexr,
libsoup2.4

I tried opening a terminal and issuing commands like
$ sudo apt-get install 

...where  is any of the aforementioned prerequisites.
Most of them failed with a message that said "unable to locate the package".
What did I do wrong?

Cheers,
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From: David Vincent-Jones 
Date: Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git
To: Bruce Williams 


It would be nice to have for a reference a definitive set of instructions
for this complete operation

David
On 8/28/19 10:59 PM, Bruce Williams wrote:

Aa!
I was looking for that list of dependencies!
Further down the page in the section on "Git version", there's a line which
says "You can find a list of them here."
...but it doesn't contain a link.
Thanks for the heads up!
I shall try again.
Cheers,
Bruce Williams
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From: August Schwerdfeger 
Date: Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git
To: 


According to this error log, LLVM not being found is just a warning -- what
is actually tripping the build up is the absence of the XML parsing
program, 'xmllint'.

Have you tried installing all the packages in the list of dependencies on
Darktable's install page (https://www.darktable.org/install/#source)? That
should have tracked in the XML parser.
--
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aug...@schwerdfeger.name

On 8/29/19 12:26 AM, Bruce Williams wrote:

Hi all,
Yes, I'm finally taking the plunge and trying to get my head around git and
all that comes with that. :)
I've created a new user profile on my linux box just so I don't screw up my
main user profile.
Anyway... got as far as $ ./build.sh
A bunch of text flew past, which all seemed to be going ok until

-- Found desktop-file-validate
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
CMake Warning at CMakeLists.txt:311 (message):
  Could not find LLVM 3.9+


CMake Warning at CMakeLists.txt:312 (message):
  Test-compilation of OpenCL programs can not be done.


-- Test-compilation of OpenCL programs is disabled.
-- Missing jsonschema, problems in noiseprofiles.json might go unnoticed
-- Missing xsltproc
-- Missing saxon-xslt
-- No xslt interpreter found
-- Missing xmllint
CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:361 (message):
  Some external programs couldn't be found


-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
See also "/home/darktable/darktable/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".
See also "/home/darktable/darktable/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log".


Anyone able to help me out here, please?
I searched the software manager for LLVM, and found "Clang", but not sure
if I need to install that or not.
Any advice would be gladly received!

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Fwd: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git

[Bruce Williams]

Aa!
I was looking for that list of dependencies!
Further down the page in the section on "Git version", there's a line which
says "You can find a list of them here."
...but it doesn't contain a link.
Thanks for the heads up!
I shall try again.
Cheers,
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From: August Schwerdfeger 
Date: Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git
To: 


According to this error log, LLVM not being found is just a warning -- what
is actually tripping the build up is the absence of the XML parsing
program, 'xmllint'.

Have you tried installing all the packages in the list of dependencies on
Darktable's install page (https://www.darktable.org/install/#source)? That
should have tracked in the XML parser.
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On 8/29/19 12:26 AM, Bruce Williams wrote:

Hi all,
Yes, I'm finally taking the plunge and trying to get my head around git and
all that comes with that. :)
I've created a new user profile on my linux box just so I don't screw up my
main user profile.
Anyway... got as far as $ ./build.sh
A bunch of text flew past, which all seemed to be going ok until

-- Found desktop-file-validate
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
CMake Warning at CMakeLists.txt:311 (message):
  Could not find LLVM 3.9+


CMake Warning at CMakeLists.txt:312 (message):
  Test-compilation of OpenCL programs can not be done.


-- Test-compilation of OpenCL programs is disabled.
-- Missing jsonschema, problems in noiseprofiles.json might go unnoticed
-- Missing xsltproc
-- Missing saxon-xslt
-- No xslt interpreter found
-- Missing xmllint
CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:361 (message):
  Some external programs couldn't be found


-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
See also "/home/darktable/darktable/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".
See also "/home/darktable/darktable/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log".


Anyone able to help me out here, please?
I searched the software manager for LLVM, and found "Clang", but not sure
if I need to install that or not.
Any advice would be gladly received!

Cheers,
Bruce Williams
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[darktable-user] Need help with compiling from git

[Bruce Williams]

Hi all,
Yes, I'm finally taking the plunge and trying to get my head around git and
all that comes with that. :)
I've created a new user profile on my linux box just so I don't screw up my
main user profile.
Anyway... got as far as $ ./build.sh
A bunch of text flew past, which all seemed to be going ok until

-- Found desktop-file-validate
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
-- Could NOT find LLVM (missing: LLVM_DIR)
CMake Warning at CMakeLists.txt:311 (message):
  Could not find LLVM 3.9+


CMake Warning at CMakeLists.txt:312 (message):
  Test-compilation of OpenCL programs can not be done.


-- Test-compilation of OpenCL programs is disabled.
-- Missing jsonschema, problems in noiseprofiles.json might go unnoticed
-- Missing xsltproc
-- Missing saxon-xslt
-- No xslt interpreter found
-- Missing xmllint
CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:361 (message):
  Some external programs couldn't be found


-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
See also "/home/darktable/darktable/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".
See also "/home/darktable/darktable/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log".


Anyone able to help me out here, please?
I searched the software manager for LLVM, and found "Clang", but not sure
if I need to install that or not.
Any advice would be gladly received!

Cheers,
Bruce Williams
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Unable to disable base curve module when opening new photos

[Bruce Williams]

Viktor,
Try removing all the images (which exist in a folder) from darktable.
Then, in your system file browser, go and delete (or temporarily move to a
backup folder) the xmp files for those images.
Now re-import those images to darktable.
This will force the recreation of the sidecar files.
The base curve should not be applied.
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: Victor 
Date: Thu., 20 Jun. 2019, 17:49
Subject: [darktable-user] Unable to disable base curve module when opening
new photos
To: darktable-user 


Context: Linux Ubuntu 18.04, Darktable 2.6.2

In configuration -> Core options I deselected "auto-apply per camera
basecurve presets".

Nonetheless when I select a new folder of raw pictures I find the module
activated invariably in each image in darkroom.

The same happens when in lighttable I discard the history stacks from
selected pictures and reopen one of them in darkroom. That base curve
module is always there.

Why is that and how can I avoid this automatic behavior of darktable?

Ciao

Vittorio


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Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Colour differences between lighttable view and darkroom view

[Bruce Williams]

Patrick,
I would be the first to admit it if it was, but I honestly don't think that
was the case.
I rarely go into preferences these days. I have dt configured the way I
like, and that's it.
Having said that, I probably DID check out preferences when I upgraded
(just to look for new bits), but I'm 99% sure I would not have changed that
setting.
Who knows! 
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: Patrick Shanahan 
Date: Sun., 9 Jun. 2019, 10:39
Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Colour differences between lighttable
view and darkroom view
To: darktable-user 


* Bruce Williams  [06-08-19 19:47]:
> Yep, that was what it was.
> Even though I had had that box checked in 2.4.4, apparently when I
upgraded
> to 2.6.2, it reverted to an unchecked state.
> In a perfect world, the upgrade process should look to see the state of
ALL
> existing preferences, and maintain the user's settings after the upgrade.

 [MUTCH QUOTED MAT'L REMOVED]

fwiw: I constantly update, master/git, and have never experienced this.

perhaps a fat finger somewhere ???


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Fwd: [darktable-user] Colour differences between lighttable view and darkroom view

[Bruce Williams]

Yep, that was what it was.
Even though I had had that box checked in 2.4.4, apparently when I upgraded
to 2.6.2, it reverted to an unchecked state.
In a perfect world, the upgrade process should look to see the state of ALL
existing preferences, and maintain the user's settings after the upgrade.
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From: Bruce Williams 
Date: Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 10:14 PM
Subject: Fwd: [darktable-user] Colour differences between lighttable view
and darkroom view
To: darktable-user 


Ahh, right!
I know I've had that checked in the past.
I wonder if when I updated to 2.6.2, it reverted to unchecked.
I will certainly check that.

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From: Florian W 
Date: Sat., 8 Jun. 2019, 22:10
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Colour differences between lighttable view
and darkroom view
To: Bruce Williams 
Cc: darktable 


Checkout the options here, the one I'm talking about is the second one
"don't use embedded preview JPEG but half-size raw".

https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/preferences_chapter.html



Le sam. 8 juin 2019 13:58, Bruce Williams  a écrit :

> Florian,
> Hmm, not sure about that one.
> I'll have to go hunting through preferences when I'm back at my desktop
> machine.
> Thanks for the tip.
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Florian W 
> Date: Sat., 8 Jun. 2019, 20:32
> Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Colour differences between lighttable view
> and darkroom view
> To: Bruce Williams 
> Cc: darktable 
>
>
> Hi Bruce,
>
> Do you have set the checkbox on parameters on order that lighttable shows
> you a light version of the image I'll the darkroom? Otherwise it will show
> you the jpg embedded in the raw file.
>
> Le sam. 8 juin 2019 12:17, Bruce Williams  a écrit :
>
>> Hi all,
>> Just did a studio shoot and was perusing the images in dt 2.6.2 on linux
>> mint 19.1
>> Noticed that the full screen preview (hit the Z key) from lighttable
>> renders completely different colours from what you get when you view the
>> same image in darkroom view.
>> Is this a known issue?
>> Darkroom does have base curve applied by default, but I imagined that the
>> lighttable view was a true reflection of the processed (i.e. after darkrrom
>> processing) image.
>> I can create a short 30 sec video demonstrating the issue if required.
>> Cheers,
>> Bruce Williams
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Colour differences between lighttable view and darkroom view

[Bruce Williams]

Ahh, right!
I know I've had that checked in the past.
I wonder if when I updated to 2.6.2, it reverted to unchecked.
I will certainly check that.

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From: Florian W 
Date: Sat., 8 Jun. 2019, 22:10
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Colour differences between lighttable view
and darkroom view
To: Bruce Williams 
Cc: darktable 


Checkout the options here, the one I'm talking about is the second one
"don't use embedded preview JPEG but half-size raw".

https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/preferences_chapter.html



Le sam. 8 juin 2019 13:58, Bruce Williams  a écrit :

> Florian,
> Hmm, not sure about that one.
> I'll have to go hunting through preferences when I'm back at my desktop
> machine.
> Thanks for the tip.
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Florian W 
> Date: Sat., 8 Jun. 2019, 20:32
> Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Colour differences between lighttable view
> and darkroom view
> To: Bruce Williams 
> Cc: darktable 
>
>
> Hi Bruce,
>
> Do you have set the checkbox on parameters on order that lighttable shows
> you a light version of the image I'll the darkroom? Otherwise it will show
> you the jpg embedded in the raw file.
>
> Le sam. 8 juin 2019 12:17, Bruce Williams  a écrit :
>
>> Hi all,
>> Just did a studio shoot and was perusing the images in dt 2.6.2 on linux
>> mint 19.1
>> Noticed that the full screen preview (hit the Z key) from lighttable
>> renders completely different colours from what you get when you view the
>> same image in darkroom view.
>> Is this a known issue?
>> Darkroom does have base curve applied by default, but I imagined that the
>> lighttable view was a true reflection of the processed (i.e. after darkrrom
>> processing) image.
>> I can create a short 30 sec video demonstrating the issue if required.
>> Cheers,
>> Bruce Williams
>> --
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Colour differences between lighttable view and darkroom view

[Bruce Williams]

Florian,
Hmm, not sure about that one.
I'll have to go hunting through preferences when I'm back at my desktop
machine.
Thanks for the tip.

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From: Florian W 
Date: Sat., 8 Jun. 2019, 20:32
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Colour differences between lighttable view
and darkroom view
To: Bruce Williams 
Cc: darktable 


Hi Bruce,

Do you have set the checkbox on parameters on order that lighttable shows
you a light version of the image I'll the darkroom? Otherwise it will show
you the jpg embedded in the raw file.

Le sam. 8 juin 2019 12:17, Bruce Williams  a écrit :

> Hi all,
> Just did a studio shoot and was perusing the images in dt 2.6.2 on linux
> mint 19.1
> Noticed that the full screen preview (hit the Z key) from lighttable
> renders completely different colours from what you get when you view the
> same image in darkroom view.
> Is this a known issue?
> Darkroom does have base curve applied by default, but I imagined that the
> lighttable view was a true reflection of the processed (i.e. after darkrrom
> processing) image.
> I can create a short 30 sec video demonstrating the issue if required.
> Cheers,
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Hi all,
Just did a studio shoot and was perusing the images in dt 2.6.2 on linux
mint 19.1
Noticed that the full screen preview (hit the Z key) from lighttable
renders completely different colours from what you get when you view the
same image in darkroom view.
Is this a known issue?
Darkroom does have base curve applied by default, but I imagined that the
lighttable view was a true reflection of the processed (i.e. after darkrrom
processing) image.
I can create a short 30 sec video demonstrating the issue if required.
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Fwd: [darktable-user] no panels on Darkroom view?

[Bruce Williams]

Also, try the tab key.
Like Lightroom, this toggles both side panels simultaneously.
Cheers,
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From: jjb 
Date: Sat., 1 Jun. 2019, 22:57
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] no panels on Darkroom view?
To: Patrick Shanahan , <
darktable-user@lists.darktable.org>


Thanks, but that does not work for me. On Fedora 30.   VERSION 2.6.2-1.fc30


On 6/1/19 1:56 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * jjb  [06-01-19 06:41]:
>> I would like to see panels in Darkroom view.
>>
>> Now Im have to click on pyramids to open them.
>>
>> How to automate this opening of  panels?
> use  and/or  to toggle open/close
> left/right.  the way you leave them when you exit dt is how they will
> appear when you next enter.
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Fwd: [darktable-user] Inconsistent output

[Bruce Williams]

Thanks for that!

Cheers,
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From: Jim Robinson 
Date: Tue., 16 Apr. 2019, 22:01
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Inconsistent output
To: Bruce Williams 
Cc: darktable-user 




On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 12:09, Bruce Williams  wrote:

> Hey all,
> Multi-image pano > stitched in Hugin > output as .tiff > imported into
> darktable for processing.
> So far so good.
> But now, I'm seeing this message "inconsistent output".
> Anyone seen this, or know exactly what it means?
> Cheers,
> Bruce Williams
>



There was the response below to a similar question last year

Well, no. The error message appears when darktable is not able to
synchronize the two pixelpipes in darkroom mode: the preview one for the
navigation window and the "full" one for the center view. Both
pixelpipes normally run asynchronously as separate processes. Some of
darktable's modules require a synchronization: the full pixelpipe needs
to wait at certain points until the preview pixelpipe produces the
needed data. Without that missing data the module in the full pixelpipe
would produce wrong results, the output of the two pixelpipes would no
longer be consistent.

In some cases synchronization fails, e.g. when the full pixelpipes needs
to wait too long and a pre-defined timeout value is exceeded (config
variable pixelpipe_synchronization_timeout). If that happens the above
warning message is displayed. However, this is of no big concern.
Typically with the next processing step all is good again. Any zooming
in or out, panning, (de-)activating of modules or any value change is
sufficient.


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[darktable-user] Inconsistent output

[Bruce Williams]

Hey all,
Multi-image pano > stitched in Hugin > output as .tiff > imported into
darktable for processing.
So far so good.
But now, I'm seeing this message "inconsistent output".
Anyone seen this, or know exactly what it means?
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Fwd: [darktable-user] How can I find all monochrome images?

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Problem is Lorenzo, the monochrome module isn't the only way to create
monochrome images in darktable (as I recently discovered when I produced my
video on that particular topic). :)
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From: Lorenzo Bolzani 
Date: Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] How can I find all monochrome images?
To: Mark 
Cc: darktable forum 



I do not know if there is a better trick but if you do not mind playing
with shell scripts you can use find + xmlstarlet to find xmp files with the
monochrome module enabled and add the corresponding tag to it.


Lorenzo



Il giorno gio 14 mar 2019 alle ore 22:32 Mark  ha
scritto:

> Is there a way to automatically find all monochrome images?
> Currently, I have to tag them manually, which is a tedious and
> error-prone process.
>
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Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] 2.6 Manual

[Bruce Williams]

Bear,
No, I think when Aurelien wrote the description for how to use the Filmic
module (apologies if I'm putting words in his mouth, here... just trying to
explain MY reading of it!), he said "expose to the right" in the sense that
you should ensure NOT to clip highlights.
In other words, if your camera has a tendency to expose a little too
aggressively to the right, you might want to dial in some under-exposure to
ensure that NO highlights get clipped.
This will ensure that the Filmic module can do its best work on your image.
Hopefully, if I've mis-interpreted it, he'll chime in here.
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From: Bear 
Date: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] 2.6 Manual
To: Bruce Williams 


Is this meaning it's changing how my shot turns out in raw?

Bear

On 10-Mar-19 06:35, Bruce Williams wrote:

I think I wrote too compulsively in my last e-mail.
I guess what I meant was not so much "expose to the left", but "expose so
as not to clip any highlights", which as you've said, is pretty much what
the manual is saying as well.
As for dark areas being recoverable, my experience is that when it comes to
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From: Pete Barlow 
Date: Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] 2.6 Manual
To: Bruce Williams 


Bruce,

But it also says "so that the highlights are at the right of the histogram,
just on the verge of clipping," which is almost a definition of ETTR. In
any case I though that ETTL will mean that any detail that was in very dark
areas will be lost and not recoverable by any means?

*Pete Barlow*


On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 11:17, Bruce Williams  wrote:

> I agree, Pete.
> I think it SHOULD read "expose to the left".
> From my reading of Aurelien Pierre's blog post on his site (he wrote the
> filmic module code), I came away with the impression that filmic does it's
> best work on images which are, shall we say, "conservatively" exposed...
> i.e. a little under.
> That's just my take, anyway.
> Cheers,
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> From: Pete Barlow 
> Date: Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 9:51 PM
> Subject: [darktable-user] 2.6 Manual
> To: 
>
>
> I've been reading through the section on the filmic module - not sure if
> these are errors or if I am misunderstanding things:
>
> Prerequisites - *it says expose the shot "to the right". This implies
> under exposing the shot* - surely ETTR implies some over exposure?
>
> and then  - *if the picture preview is very dark on your camera* - on my
> camera at least anything with ETTR appears brighter than normal
>
> *Pete Barlow*
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Fwd: [darktable-user] 2.6 Manual

[Bruce Williams]

I think I wrote too compulsively in my last e-mail.
I guess what I meant was not so much "expose to the left", but "expose so
as not to clip any highlights", which as you've said, is pretty much what
the manual is saying as well.
As for dark areas being recoverable, my experience is that when it comes to
digital, darks recover much better than highlights.
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From: Pete Barlow 
Date: Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] 2.6 Manual
To: Bruce Williams 


Bruce,

But it also says "so that the highlights are at the right of the histogram,
just on the verge of clipping," which is almost a definition of ETTR. In
any case I though that ETTL will mean that any detail that was in very dark
areas will be lost and not recoverable by any means?

*Pete Barlow*


On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 11:17, Bruce Williams  wrote:

> I agree, Pete.
> I think it SHOULD read "expose to the left".
> From my reading of Aurelien Pierre's blog post on his site (he wrote the
> filmic module code), I came away with the impression that filmic does it's
> best work on images which are, shall we say, "conservatively" exposed...
> i.e. a little under.
> That's just my take, anyway.
> Cheers,
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> From: Pete Barlow 
> Date: Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 9:51 PM
> Subject: [darktable-user] 2.6 Manual
> To: 
>
>
> I've been reading through the section on the filmic module - not sure if
> these are errors or if I am misunderstanding things:
>
> Prerequisites - *it says expose the shot "to the right". This implies
> under exposing the shot* - surely ETTR implies some over exposure?
>
> and then  - *if the picture preview is very dark on your camera* - on my
> camera at least anything with ETTR appears brighter than normal
>
> *Pete Barlow*
>
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[Bruce Williams]

I agree, Pete.
I think it SHOULD read "expose to the left".
>From my reading of Aurelien Pierre's blog post on his site (he wrote the
filmic module code), I came away with the impression that filmic does it's
best work on images which are, shall we say, "conservatively" exposed...
i.e. a little under.
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Date: Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 9:51 PM
Subject: [darktable-user] 2.6 Manual
To: 


I've been reading through the section on the filmic module - not sure if
these are errors or if I am misunderstanding things:

Prerequisites - *it says expose the shot "to the right". This implies under
exposing the shot* - surely ETTR implies some over exposure?

and then  - *if the picture preview is very dark on your camera* - on my
camera at least anything with ETTR appears brighter than normal

*Pete Barlow*


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Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] OT: Any Hugin experts here?

[Bruce Williams]

Wow Tim,
Nice work, too!
Urs has sent me his .pto file, so I'm going to have a play with that at
home.
But yeah, I'd love it if you were happy to send me a full sized tiff.
Thanks!
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: Tim Rolph 
Date: Wed., 6 Mar. 2019, 17:39
Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] OT: Any Hugin experts here?
To: Bruce Williams 


Hi Bruce, not an expert here either but have used Hugin successfully on
many
panoramas. Yours was more of a challenge because of the waves and a couple
of
image boundary's had small coverage with few contol points.
I finished it off with the gimps heal selection and heal tool.
What do you think?
If you want me to send a PNG file at 23mb or tiff at 33mb I can.

Tim.


On Tuesday, 5 March 2019 22:00:25 GMT you wrote:
> Urs,
> Awesome. Thanks!
> Cheers,
> Bruce Williams.
>
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> From: Urs Schütz 
> Date: Wed., 6 Mar. 2019, 08:49
> Subject: Re: [darktable-user] OT: Any Hugin experts here?
> To: 
>
>
> Hi Bruce
> Not an expert, just using Hugin from time to time.
>
> 1) Give Hugin some hint about the focal length used for the images. I
> did start with 30mm, and a focal length multiplier of 1.5. Hugin will
> optimize this focal length for each image later.
>
> 2) Put "anchor for position" to one of the middle images from your
panorama.
>
> 3) After automatic control point creation ("Feature Matching"), manually
> add some vertical and/or horizontal control points before beginning
> optimizations. This helps a lot with stitching of "sunsets at sea" and
> architecture images.
> This is easy with your pics, just follow the horizon with one horizontal
> alignment pair for some of the images.
>
> 4) During the *Optimize alignment" step, do each alignment step
> separately, beginning from top to bottom. After each alignment step,
> check the control points with the greatest deviations. If they are
> obviously wrong, delete them, and re-align. Leave them if they are
> correctly set, even when they have big alignment errors.
>
> 5) Do not over-align: Stop at "Positions and Translations". Check the
> preview from there.
>
> Panorama for this 2009 sunset shot is stitching just fine after doing
> this steps. There is some waves which do not fit, and need manual
> intervention. This can be done with masking in Hugin before the
> stitching, or healing the finished panorama in darktable or Gimp.
>
> Hugin 2018.0.0 displays some exif information from your images: The
> focus was 28-30mm, and a focal length factor of 1.5. You used a Dynax 7D
> with a 18-70mm zoom. I do not understand why others in this tread are
> not seeing this information.
>
> Expert mode in Hugin requires an investment in learning, but at the end
> is much less frustrating than the sometimes non-perfect results from
> semi-automatic modes.
>
> Sending you the Hugin project file in PM.
>
> Urs
>
> On 3/5/19 7:22 PM, Maurizio Paglia wrote:
> > Hi Bruce,
> > basically I agree with Patrick.
> > I tried the assembly with darktable and the great plugin pano-pro (that
> > uses the same engine of Hugin).
> > I left all options to the default in order to see how the plugin works.
> > During the assembly the plugin showed some errors because it cannot find
> > EXIF data!
> > The best result I obtained is here
> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtkCr4jXfNpxuu4ksn2Cr1sUtmribiBH
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Maurizio
> >
> > Il giorno mar 5 mar 2019 alle ore 17:45 Patrick Rudin  >
> > <mailto:rud...@solnet.ch>> ha scritto:
> > Bruce Williams mailto:stu...@audio2u.com>>
wrote:
> >  > NEW link is here:
> > These are tiff-files. From my experience, Hugin has big problems to
> > stich things without metadata, even if you tell him manually the
focal
> > length. Have you tried it with high quality jpg with full metadata?
> >
> > And yes, me too would love to read a "hidden features, tipps and
>
> tricks
>
> > of Hugin" from somebody who has a deeper inside into this
software...
> >
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Patrick
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Fwd: [darktable-user] OT: Any Hugin experts here?

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Urs,
Awesome. Thanks!
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: Urs Schütz 
Date: Wed., 6 Mar. 2019, 08:49
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] OT: Any Hugin experts here?
To: 


Hi Bruce
Not an expert, just using Hugin from time to time.

1) Give Hugin some hint about the focal length used for the images. I
did start with 30mm, and a focal length multiplier of 1.5. Hugin will
optimize this focal length for each image later.

2) Put "anchor for position" to one of the middle images from your panorama.

3) After automatic control point creation ("Feature Matching"), manually
add some vertical and/or horizontal control points before beginning
optimizations. This helps a lot with stitching of "sunsets at sea" and
architecture images.
This is easy with your pics, just follow the horizon with one horizontal
alignment pair for some of the images.

4) During the *Optimize alignment" step, do each alignment step
separately, beginning from top to bottom. After each alignment step,
check the control points with the greatest deviations. If they are
obviously wrong, delete them, and re-align. Leave them if they are
correctly set, even when they have big alignment errors.

5) Do not over-align: Stop at "Positions and Translations". Check the
preview from there.

Panorama for this 2009 sunset shot is stitching just fine after doing
this steps. There is some waves which do not fit, and need manual
intervention. This can be done with masking in Hugin before the
stitching, or healing the finished panorama in darktable or Gimp.

Hugin 2018.0.0 displays some exif information from your images: The
focus was 28-30mm, and a focal length factor of 1.5. You used a Dynax 7D
with a 18-70mm zoom. I do not understand why others in this tread are
not seeing this information.

Expert mode in Hugin requires an investment in learning, but at the end
is much less frustrating than the sometimes non-perfect results from
semi-automatic modes.

Sending you the Hugin project file in PM.

Urs

On 3/5/19 7:22 PM, Maurizio Paglia wrote:
> Hi Bruce,
> basically I agree with Patrick.
> I tried the assembly with darktable and the great plugin pano-pro (that
> uses the same engine of Hugin).
> I left all options to the default in order to see how the plugin works.
> During the assembly the plugin showed some errors because it cannot find
> EXIF data!
> The best result I obtained is here
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtkCr4jXfNpxuu4ksn2Cr1sUtmribiBH
>
> Ciao,
> Maurizio
>
> Il giorno mar 5 mar 2019 alle ore 17:45 Patrick Rudin  <mailto:rud...@solnet.ch>> ha scritto:
>
> Bruce Williams mailto:stu...@audio2u.com>> wrote:
>  > NEW link is here:
>
> These are tiff-files. From my experience, Hugin has big problems to
> stich things without metadata, even if you tell him manually the focal
> length. Have you tried it with high quality jpg with full metadata?
>
> And yes, me too would love to read a "hidden features, tipps and
tricks
> of Hugin" from somebody who has a deeper inside into this software...
>
>
> regards
>
> Patrick
>
 
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