date:20160916

On 09/16/2016 06:19 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote:

On 2016-09-16, Tony Baldwin wrote:

On 09/16/2016 10:52 AM, The Wanderer wrote:

(Is there a particular reason you replied to me privately, rather than
to the mailing list?)

I should probably mention that I'm using chromium as my browser;
getting firefox or iceweasel to use icedove is like falling off a log
it's so easy. I had it working on the Jessie on an hdd that just died
on me (thankfully not until I'd downloaded and made an install disk
to install on the other hdd, which I'm using now.) But in my old age,
I can't remember for the life of me how I did it. I don't believe it
was with update-alternatives. I think I edited some config file
somewhere, but for the life of me, I can't recall where.

A quick bit of Googling finds a discussion of a similar subject from a
few years back:

http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/3063-solved-chromium-mailto-link-doesnt-open-on-thunderbird-xdg-email/

I haven't the slightest idea where to find
settings panel >default applications >email
As the forum thread doesn't say what settings panel where.
And I can't find anything in chrome://settings that corresponds to mail
or default applications.
nor is there anything in my systemmenu under settings for default
applications.
Perhaps the forum user was referring to something in the default wm
(mate or something?) which I don't use.
I'm using openbox with the fbpanel.

openbox doesn't have a GUI for setting up the association you want.
Instead, go to the file ~/.config/mimeapps.list (creating it if
necessary) and add the following:

[Added Associations]
x-scheme-handler/mailto=icedove.desktop

See the documentation[1] for more details.

1:
https://standards.freedesktop.org/mime-apps-spec/mime-apps-spec-1.0.1.html

I did this, and restarted openbox, and still get a terminal with mutt
when I click a mailto: in chromium, but thanks for this,

I believe it's how I got it working on my prior jessie installation,
no idea why it isn't working on this one.

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Re: update-alternatives, list alternatives?


On 09/16/2016 06:20 PM, Ric Moore wrote:

On 09/16/2016 10:56 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote:


But in my old age, I can't remember for the life of me how I did it.
I don't believe it was with update-alternatives.
I think I edited some config file somewhere, but for the life of me, I
can't recall where.


Crank up Settings Manager and edit your desires with "Preferred
Applications". Ric




What is this settings manager of which you speak?
I can't seem to locate any such pkg on my system

LLAP
tony

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all tony, all the time

Re: update-alternatives, list alternatives?

2016-09-16 Thread Liam O'Toole

On 2016-09-16, Tony Baldwin  wrote:
> On 09/16/2016 10:52 AM, The Wanderer wrote:
>> (Is there a particular reason you replied to me privately, rather than
>> to the mailing list?)
>>
>>> I should probably mention that I'm using chromium as my browser;
>>> getting firefox or iceweasel to use icedove is like falling off a log
>>> it's so easy. I had it working on the Jessie on an hdd that just died
>>> on me (thankfully not until I'd downloaded and made an install disk
>>> to install on the other hdd, which I'm using now.) But in my old age,
>>> I can't remember for the life of me how I did it. I don't believe it
>>> was with update-alternatives. I think I edited some config file
>>> somewhere, but for the life of me, I can't recall where.
>>
>> A quick bit of Googling finds a discussion of a similar subject from a
>> few years back:
>>
>> http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/3063-solved-chromium-mailto-link-doesnt-open-on-thunderbird-xdg-email/
>>
> I haven't the slightest idea where to find
> settings panel >default applications >email
> As the forum thread doesn't say what settings panel where.
> And I can't find anything in chrome://settings that corresponds to mail 
> or default applications.
> nor is there anything in my systemmenu under settings for default 
> applications.
> Perhaps the forum user was referring to something in the default wm 
> (mate or something?) which I don't use.
> I'm using openbox with the fbpanel.

openbox doesn't have a GUI for setting up the association you want.
Instead, go to the file ~/.config/mimeapps.list (creating it if
necessary) and add the following:

[Added Associations]
x-scheme-handler/mailto=icedove.desktop

See the documentation[1] for more details.

1:
https://standards.freedesktop.org/mime-apps-spec/mime-apps-spec-1.0.1.html

-- 

Liam

Re: OT: W7 booteable

2016-09-16 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez

El Tue, 13 Sep 2016 11:10:50 -0300
Ricardo Delgado  escribió:
> Buenas, por cuestiones laborales me viene a suerte usar un SO
> privativo, me vi en la tarea de redimensionar la particion para poder
> instalar un debian, para ello realice un booteo con wifislax y pude
> particionar.
> 
> ahora bien al querer bootear, se rompio el Win, y no tenia imagen del
> mismo, asi que me consegui el ISO correspondiente y aqui es donde
> empezaron mis problemas, ya que con las herramientas de linux no pude
> hacer un pen booteable
> 
> instale unetbootin y probe volcar el iso, la operacion la realizaba
> pero nunca llega a arrancar, por las dudas me fije que el flag "boot"
> estuviera activado (esto usando gparted) probe darle formato EXT2 como
> pide unetbootin y nada.
> 
> instale multisystem y aqui me pide que tenga FAT32; al querer copiar
> la imagen me da un error (a buscar en google el posible error.)
> 
> por ultimo probe un dd tanto en (para mi caso) /dev/sdb y /dev/sdb1 y
> nada!
> 
> dd if=w7.iso of=/dev/sdb1 bs=4M
> 
> finalmente, y para mi pesar, baje ULTRAISO en windows, para finalmente
> poder meter el booteable en el pen, que termino siendo solucion.
> 
> Al menos en mi caso, siempre que intento con herramientas linux hacer
> un pen con W$ me resulta imposible. (los resultados de las busquedas
> en google apuntan a los 3 items anteriores unetbootin, multisystem y
> dd)
> 
> si alguien sabe como, avisen.

Consulta al soporte tecnico de ms. Para eso pagas la licencia

> 
> Me queda como tarea para la casa ir buscando y probando herramientas
> hasta lograrlo.
> 
> Muchas Gracias.
>

Re: Debian 8 KDE sin escritorio gráfico [resuelto]

2016-09-16 Thread Pedro Herrero Garcia

Buenas noches,

tras probar

dmesg --> sin errores
lspci -> aparece vga, es decir que hay drivers
less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE  ---> sin errores

y descubrir por casualidad que con la orden

'sudo startx'

arrancaba la cuenta de superusuario en modo gráfico,

y que al cambiar de usuario a una cuenta de prueba, esta última arrancaba
en modo gráfico sin problemas

y a la vez constatar que mi cuenta de usuario seguía sin arrancar en
gráfico con normalidad, concluí que lo más fácil era

borrar mi cuenta, y volverla a crear, tras copiar mis documentos y datos.


Y eso he hecho, lo cual supongo que cierra la consulta.


Gracias a quien haya leído esto

Pedro

Re: update-alternatives, list alternatives?

2016-09-16 Thread Ric Moore


On 09/16/2016 10:56 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote:


But in my old age, I can't remember for the life of me how I did it.
I don't believe it was with update-alternatives.
I think I edited some config file somewhere, but for the life of me, I
can't recall where.


Crank up Settings Manager and edit your desires with "Preferred 
Applications". Ric



--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

Re: update-alternatives, list alternatives?

2016-09-16 Thread Dutch Ingraham

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 04:50:49PM -0400, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> I just want icedove to be the default mua, and to work with chromium when I
> click on a mailto:// link.

I don't have Icedove handy, but on Thunderbird, I just go to 
edit -> preferences -> advanced, then click "check now" under "System
Integration," then check the box(es) of my choice.  Doesn't Icedove have this
functionality?

Re: update-alternatives, list alternatives?

2016-09-16 Thread Anthony Baldwin

I've tried removing and re-creating the symlinks for mail, Mail and
mailx in /etc/alternatives an pointing them to icedove, and still when I
click on any mailto link, I get a terminal with Mutt.
I don't even have mutt configured on this machine, my mail provider
seems to not like mutt
I've googled until my eyes bled, etc., etc., but I have yet to find a
solution to this.
I just want icedove to be the default mua, and to work with chromium
when I click on a mailto:// link.

Any assistance appreciated.
Thanks,
Tony

On 09/16/2016 03:10 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:

On 09/16/2016 10:52 AM, The Wanderer wrote:

(Is there a particular reason you replied to me privately, rather than
to the mailing list?)

A quick bit of Googling finds a discussion of a similar subject from a
few years back:

http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/3063-solved-chromium-mailto-link-doesnt-open-on-thunderbird-xdg-email/

I'm not sure this is the _only_ way to do it, or necessarily the best,
but someone did report it worked for them.

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translations, localization,
multilingual web development
EN, ES, FR, PT

Re: load module on boot?

2016-09-16 Thread Ric Moore


On 09/16/2016 09:59 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote:

Greetings, friends,
so something went wrong with my old Debian installation and it won't
boot (dumps to emergency mode every time).
Consequently, I installed Jessie on the other hdd (that had win7), and
I'm having a couple of minor troubles:
First, I need the snd-mixer-oss module to load on boot. I can load it
manually once I'm already booted with
sudo modprobe snd-mixer-oss
, but I want it to be automatic so I don't have to do this.
googling got me two solutions, neither of which is working.
The first was to create an /etc/modules-load.d/modules.conf and  add a
line like this:


Just use "padsp" before your program, ie "padsp kino" on a command line 
or edit an alias. I think you will need the libpulsedsp package 
installed. No need to make something hard. Ric



--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

Re: (deb-cat) sudo as lp

És que, en aquell ordinador en concret, havent resolt el tema d'AppArmor
s'ha resolt tota la resta; ni tan sols cal fer servir «sudo» perquè no
hi ha problema de «too many files...».

La següent batalla serà veure perquè am Debian 8 (stable) sense la
presència d'Apparmor les interfícies-script configurades així a CUPS ni
tan sols s'arriben a executar.



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I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
masked enough at lists.debian.org archives.
El 16/09/16 a les 18:30, Alex Muntada ha escrit:
> Narcis Garcia:
> 
>> Ambdues instruccions al programet (després d'intentar l'execució
>> remota...too many files...):
>> lsof -p $$ > /tmp/lsof.$$
>> strace -f -e open Epson1 > /tmp/strace.$$
>> Produeixen els fitxers:
>> /tmp/lsof.5618
>> /tmp/strace.5618
> 
> Només un petit apunt sobre això: l'ordre strace l'has d'executar
> des de fora del programa que vols avaluar i el paràmetre Epson1
> havia de ser el camí sencer a /etc/cups/interfaces/Epson1 perquè
> no està al PATH (no vaig posar-lo sencer perquè no el recordava).
> 
> Prova a fer «strace -f -e open /bin/ls» per veure què fa (no cal
> fer-ho com a root).
> 
> Salut,
> Alex
>

Re: Defining TAP interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces

2016-09-16 Thread Andrew Wood




On 12/09/16 23:23, Neal P. Murphy wrote:


You might find something in here useful.


On 12/09/16 21:43, Charlie Kravetz wrote:

Change the bridge_ports to:
bridge_ports eth1 tap0

then add the tap lines:
 auto tap0
  iface tap0 inet static
  address 192.168.??.?
  netmask 255.255.255.0
  tunctl_user vboxusers


On 12/09/16 21:33, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote:

An example:

http://www.shakthimaan.com/installs/debian-tun-tap-setup.html



Thanks all, very useful

Re: update-alternatives, list alternatives?

On 09/16/2016 10:52 AM, The Wanderer wrote:

(Is there a particular reason you replied to me privately, rather than
to the mailing list?)

A quick bit of Googling finds a discussion of a similar subject from a
few years back:

http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/3063-solved-chromium-mailto-link-doesnt-open-on-thunderbird-xdg-email/

I'm using openbox with the fbpanel.

I'm not sure this is the _only_ way to do it, or necessarily the best,
but someone did report it worked for them.

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all tony, all the time

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-16 Thread Joe

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:44:09 -0400 (EDT)
Alan McConnell  wrote:

> For some reason, my sound doesn't work on my new machine with its
> present jessie install.  It worked on my old machine(which had
> jessie) and it works fine here on Windoze(I use youtube to play old
> Bernie Sanders' speeches, or Mozart).  So what do I have to do?  I
> can't find alsa to install, and pulsesudio is already installed.
> 
> Any and all suggestions/fixes appreciated.  Please spare the
> imprecations and chastisements!
> 

Could I first suggest that you get hold of a recent version of
Knoppix? Not just to solve this problem, but you seem to be at a point
where you need a variety of help. It takes forever to boot up, but it's
worth waiting for.

It is based on Debian, and its particular selling point is its hardware
driving abilities. It is based on unstable rather than a released
Debian, but it is still usually possible to see how it achieves
something and to transfer the knowledge to a standard Debian. I won't
say that I've never seen hardware that beats it, but it doesn't happen
often.

More specifically, sound has always been a problem with Linux, not
least because of the variety of systems involved, some of them
optional, and the helpful instructions on the Net which cover many
years and are mostly obsolete. I've no idea of the current state of the
art, as I actually haven't had a sound problem for at least a year, so
someone will correct any of my recollections which are incorrect. I
also don't have a jessie system, but sound changes relatively slowly,
and my wheezy and sid installations look fairly similar.

Basically, there is a low-level driver for the hardware you have, and
various layers of software on top of that. Probably the first job is to
check that you are getting the hardware driver(s) installed, and the
sound card(s) is/are available.

I'm fairly sure pulseaudio is not yet standalone, it operates through
alsa, and there are other tools to operate alsa directly. Rather than
try unfamiliar software to check for cards, look in /proc/asound/cards
(cat /proc/asound/cards). If you don't see the sound device you expect
to see, you're probably not getting the driver installed. If you see
more than one device, and the one you expect isn't the first in the
list, I've reached the limit of my knowledge. I've solved that one
before, but alsa configuration has changed since then, and systemd
has arrived, and you need up-to-date instructions.

If you see the expected device first in the list, then probably all is
well with drivers. Check the audio mixer settings. Cards have different
numbers of level adjustments, you may need more than one turned up to
get internal sound.

If you have a speaker icon on your desktop, right-click and run the
audio mixer. If you don't, try alsamixer from the command line. If it
can't find that, install the package alsamixergui and try again. When
you can see that the right sliders are turned up (all of them if
necessary) try speaker-test -c 2 from the command line, which should
give you noise tests on the two main channels. If you get to that
point, everything ought to work. If not, come back and we'll try to get
further.

-- 
Joe

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-16 Thread steef



hi alan,

install synaptic if you haven't allready done so.
do  'sudo synaptic'  and search for 'alsa'  and install (as root) alsa-base alsa-tools the alsa-toolsgui and the aslsamixergui. this last 
package give you some useful possibilities. and in my humble opimion, please get rid of pulse-audio. for me that program is and was allways 
a nuisance. good luck!


steef

groningen, the netherlands




On 16-09-16 19:44, Alan McConnell wrote:

For some reason, my sound doesn't work on my new machine with its present
jessie install.  It worked on my old machine(which had jessie) and it
works fine here on Windoze(I use youtube to play old Bernie Sanders' speeches,
or Mozart).  So what do I have to do?  I can't find alsa to install, and
pulsesudio is already installed.

Any and all suggestions/fixes appreciated.  Please spare the imprecations and
chastisements!

Alan

Re: permanently add dir to $PATH

2016-09-16 Thread Liam O'Toole

On 2016-09-16, Greg Wooledge  wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:01:39AM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>> The other problem is trying to permanently add $HOME/bin to the $PATH.
>> 
>> I have in .bash_profile
>> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin
>> export PATH
>> 
>> But every time I boot I have to manually add it again.
>
> This is probably because you are logging in with a display manager
> instead of ssh or a Linux console.  The display managers do not launch
> a login shell, so your login shell configuration files are never read.
>
> (This is why I never use a display manager.  Well, one of the reasons.)
>
> You need to identify which display manager you're using, and then try
> to figure out how to configure it as a user.  Good luck.  I've found
> that most of them have absolutely ZERO documentation about this.
>
>

gdm sources the login scripts, whereas lightdm does not. In the latter
case, do the necessary PATH munging in ~/.xsessionrc.

-- 

Liam

Sound on jessie

2016-09-16 Thread Alan McConnell

For some reason, my sound doesn't work on my new machine with its present
jessie install.  It worked on my old machine(which had jessie) and it
works fine here on Windoze(I use youtube to play old Bernie Sanders' speeches,
or Mozart).  So what do I have to do?  I can't find alsa to install, and
pulsesudio is already installed.

Any and all suggestions/fixes appreciated.  Please spare the imprecations and
chastisements!

Alan

Test of Windoze Copy and Paste

2016-09-16 Thread Alan McConnell

Viva yo!  I can now Copy and Paste, as a kind and knowledgeable user
prescribe.

What is below is my very own fstab, much sought after by certain parties
a while back.  It has absolutely no significance or relevance for anyone 
anymore, so this post can and should be Deleted/ignored.


#
#

# / was on /dev/sda7 during installation
UUID=498875eb-a8ee-4190-bdfe-d3730c6f77dd /   ext4
errors=remount-ro 0   1

# /boot was on /dev/sda6 during installation
UUID=94c42b91-e970-40a0-b7b9-dadadc3f7091 /boot   ext4defaults  
  0   2

# /home was on /dev/sda11 during installation
UUID=39977844-fb29-4c61-b345-e0654ee1cb08 /home   ext4defaults  
  0   2

# /tmp was on /dev/sda10 during installation
UUID=e0233918-dcea-4b52-8fcd-51fcb183e5fe /tmpext4defaults  
  0   2

# /usr was on /dev/sda8 during installation
UUID=4fc044b4-7a04-45ef-81a9-080aeda16cd9 /usrext4defaults  
  0   2

# /var was on /dev/sda9 during installation
UUID=9611f2ae-02d5-437a-bae2-3f735b103cef /varext4defaults  
  0   2

# swap was on /dev/sda12 during installation
UUID=a1ffabcf-c93b-4a67-ae2c-003c3252b353 noneswapsw
  0   0
/dev/sr0/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0

# Alan added the line below on 11 Sep 2016

/dev/sdb1   /mnt   auto user, noauto  0   0

Re: usb-tethered verizon/netgear airpack + ethernet printer -- SOLVED

2016-09-16 Thread rlharris

On Thu, September 15, 2016 11:52 am, Henning Follmann wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:01:10AM -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to use the ethernet port of a laptop to feed a printer
>> while the laptop is connected to the Internet via a usb-tethered
>> verizon/netgear airpack 791L?
>>
>> Network manager appears unable to find the printer.
>
> I guess that should be possible. However this could be tricky.
> Usually the verizon devices put you into 192.168.1.0/24 network. This is
> also the network most home routers put you in. It might be possible that
> those two network collide. Most likely you also get your network settings
> via dhcp. Here also the two different network collide. Most likely the
> later connection will overwrite the first and screw things up. I would
> recommend setting up one network manually making sure that they have non
> colliding networks.

Thanks, Henning.  The solution I used was:

- configure the printer for ip address 192.168.3.201
  with gateway 192.168.3.1
- add connection 192.168.3.1 in network manager
- plug the ethernet cable from the printer into the laptop ethernet port

RLH

Re: NTFS access on Debian boot

2016-09-16 Thread Alan McConnell

- Original Message -
From: "Felix Miata" 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:42:22 PM
Subject: Re: NTFS access on Debian boot

Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-15 21:02 (UTC-0400):

> Felix Miata composed:

>> I'll provide a seed for you to try to fix on your own. This is from Jessie
>> on a multiboot Dell that includes Windows 10:

>> # grep ntfs /etc/fstab
>> /dev/sda6 /win/C ntfs-3g 
>> nofail,users,gid=100,fmask=0111,dmask=,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0

> Already this doesn't work. 

Of course it doesn't. A seed isn't a fruiting plant. It's not ready for cut and
paste.
Hmm . . . a good aphorism, I guess.

However, what _does_ work is the command  'blkid'  Its output for my
/dev/sda3 is: LABEL="OS"!  !   So much for the adherents here of
os-prober(You know who you are!)

After further exploration, I found that the command to mount the
Windoze system is: mount UUID="d . . ." /mnt2.  The 'ddd. . . " is
a sixteen digit string given by the blkid command.  And /mnt2 is another
mount point I created, anticipating this use.

With this I can, as root or as user, cd to /mnt2 and explore the arcana
of Windows 10.  I didn't try copying to or from /mnt2, since I was
afraid of disrupting the Windoze system.

Perhaps a lurking installer maintainer can pick up on this.  It
shouldn't be hard to set up a grub file with the capacity to install
Windoze, if desired.  Or to put a mount point into fstab.

of this is irrelevant, because I install and setup Grub myself, writing my own
primary bootloader menu, including in it whatever I please. I can load Grub
from the Windows boot menu if and when I please as well.
There is an enviable talent!  I don't think I'll need more than I
presently have.  My hope is still to get jessie working as well as
wheezy did.  I can now use X11, but I still need to get my jessie
connected to the Internet.  I have a message about that to reply to.

Thanks, Felix, and best wishes to all you other folk!

Alan

Re: (deb-cat) sudo as lp

2016-09-16 Thread Alex Muntada

Narcis Garcia:

> Ambdues instruccions al programet (després d'intentar l'execució
> remota...too many files...):
> lsof -p $$ > /tmp/lsof.$$
> strace -f -e open Epson1 > /tmp/strace.$$
> Produeixen els fitxers:
> /tmp/lsof.5618
> /tmp/strace.5618

Només un petit apunt sobre això: l'ordre strace l'has d'executar
des de fora del programa que vols avaluar i el paràmetre Epson1
havia de ser el camí sencer a /etc/cups/interfaces/Epson1 perquè
no està al PATH (no vaig posar-lo sencer perquè no el recordava).

Prova a fer «strace -f -e open /bin/ls» per veure què fa (no cal
fer-ho com a root).

Salut,
Alex

Re: Dubtes sobre instal·lació de paquets específics de Sid.

2016-09-16 Thread Alex Muntada

Robert Marsellés:

> Això ho he llegit a molts llocs però són paquets dels repositoris
> "contrib" + algun de "non-free" i no sé si això fa augmentar aquest risc
> de mala sort. A més a més, cada cop que s'actualitza VirtualBox, també
> ho fa el mòdul pel nucli Linux. Usant el sistema de paquets de Debian
> tota aquesta feina es fa sola. Que és el gran avantatge que hi veig i
> pel que estaré eternament agraït als desenvolupadors voluntaris que fan
> aquesta feinada de "xinos" d'enllaçar dependències (perdoneu per
> l'expressió).

Crec que en Jordi es referia a la meva proposta d'instal·lar els
.deb a mà no a la que feia d'instal·lar el VirtualBox original.
Amb la solució que en Jordi ha comentat, crec que utilitzar els
paquets és l'opció més senzilla.

D'altra banda, a virtualbox.org diuen que l'instal·lador genèric
per a tots els linux no té dependències fortes perquè es genera
amb una EL5, que té versions força antigues i encara disponibles
en moltes distros. Tot i així, no ho he provat i estic d'acord
amb tu que utilitzar els paquets de Debian és millor en molts
sentits.

> "Manualment"? Ja era manual l'exemple que vaig ficar. Més manual encara?
> Què vols dir? (enteneu ara lo de ser curiós? Se m'escapa. No fa falta
> que contestis faré servir la versió automàtica del Jordi)

Volia dir que localitzis el paquet que t'interessa en un mirall
qualsevol, el descarreguis i l'instal·lis amb «dpkg -i *.deb».
És a dir, més manual encara ;)

Aquest mètode té la pega que no comprova la signatura digital
del paquet, per això cal anar amb compte.

> El gestor que uso és "aptitude". He vist al "man" que també té l'opció:
> -t . Ho provaré així.

Diria que l'aptitude també llegeix la configuració dels fitxers
apt.conf* però si vols assegurar-te que no trenques res, potser
vols provar a dir-li també l'opció -d perquè descarregui els
paquets però no els instal·li, o l'opció -s perquè simuli les
operacions i prou.

Salut,
Alex

Re: Dubtes sobre instal·lació de paquets específics de Sid.

2016-09-16 Thread Alex Muntada

Jordi Mallach:

> En lloc de fer-ho manualment, es pot fer amb apt:
> 
> cat > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/default-release.conf << EOF
> APT::Default-Release "stretch";
> EOF

Oh! Això és genial :)

Salut i moltes gràcies!
Alex

Re: update-alternatives, list alternatives?

2016-09-16 Thread Greg Wooledge

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:56:44AM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> Indeed:
> # update-alternatives --get-selections | grep mail
> mailx  auto /usr/bin/bsd-mailx
> 
> but also:
> # update-alternatives --config mailx
> There is only one alternative in link group mailx (providing 
> /usr/bin/mailx): /usr/bin/bsd-mailx
> Nothing to configure.
> 
> 
> it seems it won't let me set a mail client

The other alternative for mailx is heirloom-mailx and I would strongly
recommend that one over bsd-mailx.  heirloom-mailx has lots more
features, including the ability to specify MIME attachment files from
the command line.

In general, if you're wondering how to find out what the alternatives
are for a given virtual package:

$ apt-cache showpkg mailx
...
Reverse Provides: 
mailutils 1:2.99.98-2
heirloom-mailx 12.5-4
bsd-mailx 8.1.2-0.20141216cvs-2

So, three choices.  I only knew about the latter two.

Re: Dubtes sobre instal·lació de paquets específics de Sid.

2016-09-16 Thread Robert Marsellés

Hola a tots,

Primer, moltíssimes gràcies per les suggeriments. Simplement aclarir que
jo no obligo a ningú a fer, instal·lar-se, ni subscriure's rés ni en lloc.

Al contrari, és a mi que m'exigeixen usar aquesta eina. I si algun cop
he proposat alternatives el més simpàtic és queixa, els més radicals
escullen algú altre per fer la feina dient que jo els "calentava" massa
el cap.

On 16/09/16 09:04, Jordi Mallach wrote:
> 
> El que proposa l'Àlex és el millor.
> 
> Normalment, si no tens la mala sort de que el paquet que vols
> instal·lar està immers en una transició (https://release.debian.org/tra
> nsitions/), els paquets de sid s'instal·len en testing sense problema.
> 

Això ho he llegit a molts llocs però són paquets dels repositoris
"contrib" + algun de "non-free" i no sé si això fa augmentar aquest risc
de mala sort. A més a més, cada cop que s'actualitza VirtualBox, també
ho fa el mòdul pel nucli Linux. Usant el sistema de paquets de Debian
tota aquesta feina es fa sola. Que és el gran avantatge que hi veig i
pel que estaré eternament agraït als desenvolupadors voluntaris que fan
aquesta feinada de "xinos" d'enllaçar dependències (perdoneu per
l'expressió).

Jo aprenc de forma autodidacta provant poc a poc. Tot de cop ...
m'esgarrifa una mica i és el que m'ha frenat aquest cop. Si fos
qualsevol altre paquet ni tan sols us hagués preguntat. Ja estaria provat.

> El dj 15 de 09 de 2016 a les 15:54 +0200, en/na Alex Muntada va
> escriure:
>> Com que testing i unstable no s'allunyen excessivament, per què
>> no proves d'instal·lar el .deb de unstable directament? Sense
>> l'apt, vull dir. Com a molt et tocarà instal·lar manualment
>> alguna dependència i prou.

"Manualment"? Ja era manual l'exemple que vaig ficar. Més manual encara?
Què vols dir? (enteneu ara lo de ser curiós? Se m'escapa. No fa falta
que contestis faré servir la versió automàtica del Jordi)

> 
> En lloc de fer-ho manualment, es pot fer amb apt:
> 
> cat > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/default-release.conf << EOF
> APT::Default-Release "stretch";
> EOF
> 
> cat > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sid.list << EOF
> deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free
> EOF
> 
> apt update
> apt install -t sid virtualbox virtualbox-qt virtualbox-dkms
> 

El gestor que uso és "aptitude". He vist al "man" que també té l'opció:
-t . Ho provaré així.

> Amb això hauries de poder instal·lar el virtualbox de sid i potser
> alguna dependència extra en el pitjor dels casos, sense fer-ho a mà.
> (disclaimer: no ho he provat, però hui m'he alçat optimista :D)
> 

Vinga, jo també.

> Una vegada el vbox entre en testing, ja no tindràs res amb la versió de
> sid, i tot normal.
> 

Si ho he entès bé, al primer fitxer "default-release.conf" deixo clar el
repositori que vull seguir ("testing") mentre que al segon especifico
l'adreça del repositori "unstable" per si mai necessito rés d'allí.
Correcte?

A més a més, així no he de canviar rés del fitxer /etc/apt/sources.list.
Quan el paquet a "testing" passi a una versió major que el que tinc de
"unstable" l'usarà i tornaré a estar com al principi.

Aquesta era la idea que jo tenia al cap però que no sabia com
implementar. Algun cop ho havia provat a mà. Hi tenia adreces de
diferents repositoris i anava (des)comentant les que m'interessava. Em
sembla més civilitzada i clara la teva manera.

De nou, moltes gràcies. Ja us diré com va. Abans vull fer una ullada als
manuals de apt.conf (5) i sources.list (5).

Salut i peles,

robert

Re: Este CPU ¿puede soportar debian 64 bits?

2016-09-16 Thread Gerardo Diez

El 16 de septiembre de 2016, 16:11, JAP
 escribió:
>
> El 16/09/16 a las 09:16, Ignacio Martirén escribió:
>>
>> address sizes: 32 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
>
>
>
> http://ark.intel.com/es/products/27232/Intel-Core-Duo-Processor-T2250-2M-Cache-1_73-GHz-533-MHz-FSB
>
> (...)
> Tecnologías avanzadas
> Versión de la tecnología Intel® Turbo Boost ‡   No
> Tecnología Hyper-Threading Intel® ‡ No
> Tecnología de virtualización Intel® (VT-x) ‡No
> Intel® 64 ‡ No
>
> >>>
> Conjunto de instrucciones   32-bit
> >>>
>
> Estados de inactividad  No
> Tecnología Intel SpeedStep® mejoradaSí
> Conmutación según demanda Intel®No
> (...)
>
> O sea,
>
> NO
>
> JAP
>

Por abundar un poco más en la respuesta. En StackExchange[1] apuntan a
fijarse en el flag lvm igual que en la página de Ubuntu[2] donde
proporcionan el siguiente snippet

grep --color=always -iw lm /proc/cpuinfo




[1]:http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/43539/what-do-the-flags-in-proc-cpuinfo-mean
[2]:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit

Re: update-alternatives, list alternatives?

2016-09-16 Thread The Wanderer

On 2016-09-16 at 10:56, Tony Baldwin wrote:

> On 09/16/2016 10:29 AM, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2016-09-16 at 10:10, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>> I'm having another headache...
>>>
>>> I want to make Icedove the default mail client.
>>> I had this done on the last Jessie system I had (on a now defunct hdd).
>>> But I can't recall how I did it, if it was with update-alternative or
>>> some other means..
>>> And something that's been bothering me for a while is:
>>> I can't seem to find or figure out how to list all the alternatives I
>>> can manage with update-alternatives.
>>> I mean, I can get a list for a particular item, like x-www-browser or
>>> editor, but I want a list of all those possible things to update
>>> (x-www-browser, editor, etc.)
>>> Is there such a list somewhere?
>>
>> From the man page,
>>
>> update-alternatives --get-selections
>>
>> looks like it should do what you want, at least as far as alternative
>> groups currently present on the system. (Naturally, because any package
>> can add a new link group - or the administrator can do it manually, if
>> desired - nothing can provide a list of every possible link group which
>> could exist.)
>>
>> I don't see any obvious sign of a generic "mail client" link group
>> listed there, though.
> 
> My apologies to the Wanderer, who will now be seeing this twice, as I 
> mistakenly replied to him off-list... (keep forgetting to use reply-list)

No worries.

> Indeed:
> # update-alternatives --get-selections | grep mail
> mailx  auto /usr/bin/bsd-mailx
> 
> but also:
> # update-alternatives --config mailx
> There is only one alternative in link group mailx (providing 
> /usr/bin/mailx): /usr/bin/bsd-mailx
> Nothing to configure.
> 
> 
> it seems it won't let me set a mail client
> 
> I should probably mention that I'm using chromium as my browser; getting 
> firefox or iceweasel to use icedove is like falling off a log it's so easy.
> I had it working on the Jessie on an hdd that just died on me 
> (thankfully not until I'd downloaded and made an install disk to install 
> on the other hdd, which I'm using now.)
> But in my old age, I can't remember for the life of me how I did it.
> I don't believe it was with update-alternatives.
> I think I edited some config file somewhere, but for the life of me, I 
> can't recall where.

Apparently the "correct" way to do this (as opposed to the easiest,
which may be the one I linked you to in private mail but which will
probably break if the relevant package is ever updated) involves
fiddling around with xdg-email or xdg-open or the related suite of commands.

Setting the default programs which those commands will use is apparently
done via 'xdg-mime default', but I don't know what MIME type to tell it
to configure in order to affect handling of mailto: URLs, and none of my
digging so far has turned up anything useful. (There are a few search
results which explain a way to do it assuming you're using the full
GNOME graphical interface, including their settings dialogs, but that's
not exactly a good or a portable solution.)

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: update-alternatives, list alternatives?


On 09/16/2016 10:29 AM, The Wanderer wrote:

On 2016-09-16 at 10:10, Tony Baldwin wrote:


I'm having another headache...

I want to make Icedove the default mail client.
I had this done on the last Jessie system I had (on a now defunct hdd).
But I can't recall how I did it, if it was with update-alternative or
some other means..
And something that's been bothering me for a while is:
I can't seem to find or figure out how to list all the alternatives I
can manage with update-alternatives.
I mean, I can get a list for a particular item, like x-www-browser or
editor, but I want a list of all those possible things to update
(x-www-browser, editor, etc.)
Is there such a list somewhere?


From the man page,

update-alternatives --get-selections

looks like it should do what you want, at least as far as alternative
groups currently present on the system. (Naturally, because any package
can add a new link group - or the administrator can do it manually, if
desired - nothing can provide a list of every possible link group which
could exist.)

I don't see any obvious sign of a generic "mail client" link group
listed there, though.



My apologies to the Wanderer, who will now be seeing this twice, as I 
mistakenly replied to him off-list... (keep forgetting to use reply-list)


Indeed:
# update-alternatives --get-selections | grep mail
mailx  auto /usr/bin/bsd-mailx

but also:
# update-alternatives --config mailx
There is only one alternative in link group mailx (providing 
/usr/bin/mailx): /usr/bin/bsd-mailx

Nothing to configure.


it seems it won't let me set a mail client

I should probably mention that I'm using chromium as my browser; getting 
firefox or iceweasel to use icedove is like falling off a log it's so easy.
I had it working on the Jessie on an hdd that just died on me 
(thankfully not until I'd downloaded and made an install disk to install 
on the other hdd, which I'm using now.)

But in my old age, I can't remember for the life of me how I did it.
I don't believe it was with update-alternatives.
I think I edited some config file somewhere, but for the life of me, I 
can't recall where.


thanks,
Tony


--
http://tonybaldwin.me
all tony, all the time

Re: [OT] Flash Player para linux "strikes back"

2016-09-16 Thread Gonzalo Rivero

El vie, 16-09-2016 a las 10:54 -0300, Ignacio Martirén escribió:
> Bueno, no soy muy entendedor de estas cosas, pregunto en este hilo
> porque la temática es de adobe flash player que no "funcionaría" en
> mi stretch 32bits. Haré comprobaciones sobre falshplugin-nonfree
> 
en el caso específico de youtube, entrá en http://www.youtube.com/html5
 y activá lo que veas ahí, así no necesitás flash
los otros sitios no se.

pd: si podés NO hacer top posting ni enviar correo html, mejor

> El 16 de septiembre de 2016, 10:31, Jorge A. Secreto
>  escribió:
> > hola
> > ¿me parece a mi o estás secuestrando un hilo?
> > 
> > El día 16 de septiembre de 2016, 10:22, Ignacio Martirén
> >  escribió:
> > > Tengo instalado Debian stretch 32bits en la notebook. Cómo puedo
> > hacer para
> > > que me funcione  las multimedia en Mozilla? No me queda claro lo
> > que dicen
> > > respecto de adobe flash player, tampoco funciona Gnash (?). En
> > otra pc tengo
> > > el mismo SO en 64bits y todo funciona bien. Cómo hago?
> > >
> > 
> > ¿Tenés instalado flashplugin-nonfree?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > El 16 de septiembre de 2016, 10:06, Ignacio Martirén  > gmail.com>
> > > escribió:
> > >>
> > >> Hola. Tengo instalado Debian stretch 32bits y no puedo usar
> > yutube
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> El 11 de septiembre de 2016, 13:01, Camaleón  > >
> > >> escribió:
> > >>>
> > >>> El Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:06:40 +, Camaleón escribió:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Aviso a navegantes: la beta 23 no la detecta Firefox. Parece
> > que además
> > >>> > de Fedora (como dice la nota) tampoco funciona en Debian.
> > >>>
> > >>> Corrijo: la beta 23 funciona en testing (32 bits) pero no
> > funciona en
> > >>> wheezy (64 bits). Misterios "bibliotecarios", seguro.
> > >>>
> > >>> Saludos,
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Camaleón
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>           Ignacio
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >           Ignacio
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Jorge A Secreto
> > Analista de Sistemas
> > MP 361
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
>

Re: update-alternatives, list alternatives?

2016-09-16 Thread The Wanderer

On 2016-09-16 at 10:10, Tony Baldwin wrote:

> I'm having another headache...
> 
> I want to make Icedove the default mail client.
> I had this done on the last Jessie system I had (on a now defunct hdd).
> But I can't recall how I did it, if it was with update-alternative or 
> some other means..
> And something that's been bothering me for a while is:
> I can't seem to find or figure out how to list all the alternatives I 
> can manage with update-alternatives.
> I mean, I can get a list for a particular item, like x-www-browser or 
> editor, but I want a list of all those possible things to update 
> (x-www-browser, editor, etc.)
> Is there such a list somewhere?

From the man page,

update-alternatives --get-selections

looks like it should do what you want, at least as far as alternative
groups currently present on the system. (Naturally, because any package
can add a new link group - or the administrator can do it manually, if
desired - nothing can provide a list of every possible link group which
could exist.)

I don't see any obvious sign of a generic "mail client" link group
listed there, though.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: permanently add dir to $PATH

2016-09-16 Thread der.hans


Am 16. Sep, 2016 schwätzte Tony Baldwin so:

moin moin Tony,

as mentioned, I'm working with a new Jessie installation and having a coupl 
headaches, the first had to do with getting a kernel module to load on boot 
(already wrote to the list about it.)


The other problem is trying to permanently add $HOME/bin to the $PATH.

I have in .bash_profile
PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin
export PATH

But every time I boot I have to manually add it again.


You have to add it to the file again?

/etc/skel/.profile includes $HOME/bin

$ tail -4 /etc/skel/.profile 
# set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists

if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then
PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"
fi
$

But, the top of the file lets us know it's not used if ~/.bash_profile
exists.

The bash manpage lists the purpose of ~/.bash_profile and ~/.bashrc.

   ~/.bash_profile
  The personal initialization file, executed for login shells
   ~/.bashrc
  The individual per-interactive-shell startup file

~/.bashrc gets read for all shells, including screen and tmux instances
and GUI logins that don't invoke login shells, so I put my changes
in ~/.bashrc rather than ~/.bash_profile. If I had interactive
configurations, then I would put those in ~/.bash_profile, everything else
goes in ~/.bashrc.

Actually, I put them in ~/.bashrc_local and include that from ~/.bashrc
so it's easier to keep my localizations synced across systems.

if [ -f ~/.bashrc_local ]; then
. ~/.bashrc_local
fi

ciao,

der.hans
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#--Albert Einstein

Re: Windows (really about cut)

2016-09-16 Thread David Wright

On Fri 16 Sep 2016 at 12:30:47 (+0100), Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 16 September 2016 09:34:56 Joe wrote:
> > The same way you do in any medium-heavyweight Linux DE.
> 
> No, that is not how I do it in Linux, and having to do it that cumbersome way 
> in Windows  and sometimes LibreOffice is a constant minor niggle.
> 
> In Linux, I sweep the mouse over what I want to copy to select it, then go to 
> where I want to paste it and middle click.  On a two button mouse press both 
> buttons simultaneously.
> 
> In my DE that even works in the terminal.

Have a care, we don't want Harry Hill shouting "Fiiight!"

All these methods work in various circumstances because X tries to
allow them all. But the way they interact is complicated by which
buffer is holding the information: X selection, Clipboard, Kill-ring;
on the local machine, on the remote machine, etc.

And where the pasted information goes is also configurable: in emacs I
can select with the mouse like Lisi, but the paste will always go to
the active cursor position (at the flashing blob called "point"), not
to where the middle button is clicked. But that's my choice; and
probably not the default.

This is one area where a bit of experimentation will help much more
than trying to understand the scattered documentation. There's no
Gates/Jobs (showing my age) defining and documenting what can be done,
and I don't think it's possible to write a document that would cover
every conceivable DE, WM, browser, editor, office-style app etc.,
2/3/N-button mouse, not forgeting the entire repertoire of keyboards,
languages and key-redefinitions that are possible. (And don't forget
the plain old linux console.)

The best I've found (for me) is

https://specifications.freedesktop.org/clipboards-spec/clipboards-latest.txt

Cheers,
David.

Re: Duda sobre servidor

2016-09-16 Thread Gonzalo Rivero

El jue, 15-09-2016 a las 13:08 +0200, David Rotger escribió:
> Hola,
> mi empresa quiere cambiar el servidor, y los programadores que llevan
> el programa de gestion les ha recomendado este:
> Servidor HP ProLiant ML350 G9 - 1 x Intel Xeon E5-2620 v3 Hexa-core
> (6 Core) 2,40 GHz - 5U - Torre - 2 Soporte del Procesador - 16 GB
> Estándar DDR4 SDRAM Max RAM - 600 GB (2 x 300 GB) - 12Gb/s SAS
> Compatibilidad con RAID Controlador - Gigabit Ethernet - 2 x 500 W -
> Matrox G200 Tarjeta gráfica - Grabadora DVD
> Lo he estado mirando, y aparte de la poca capacidad de los discos, no
> veo que tenga mucho sentido tener discos sas a 12gb/s quando la
> interfaz de red solo va a 1gb/s. Me equivoco?
podrías querer exportar disco o volúmenes por fiber channel (yo tengo
el switch y las placas de fibra de hasta 8gps y las ethernet siguen
siendo de 1gb)

> Estoy pensando en montar mi propio servidor por piezas. Es una
> locura? Vale la pena?
> Una placa base con socket 2011-3
> Processador xeon
> Memoria ECC ddr4 32gb
> Dos discos duros sas ( mirror 2tb )
> Interfaz de red sfp 10gb
> Aun no se que processador exactamente ni que placa base.
> Espero vuestra opinion.
> Gracias.

Re: update-alternatives, list alternatives?

2016-09-16 Thread Greg Wooledge

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:10:44AM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> I can't seem to find or figure out how to list all the alternatives I 
> can manage with update-alternatives.
> I mean, I can get a list for a particular item, like x-www-browser or 
> editor, but I want a list of all those possible things to update 
> (x-www-browser, editor, etc.)
> Is there such a list somewhere?

ls /etc/alternatives

I don't know if even that is complete.  However, it should be a good
start.

Re: Este CPU ¿puede soportar debian 64 bits?

2016-09-16 Thread JAP


El 16/09/16 a las 09:16, Ignacio Martirén escribió:

address sizes: 32 bits physical, 32 bits virtual



http://ark.intel.com/es/products/27232/Intel-Core-Duo-Processor-T2250-2M-Cache-1_73-GHz-533-MHz-FSB

(...)
Tecnologías avanzadas
Versión de la tecnología Intel® Turbo Boost ‡   No
Tecnología Hyper-Threading Intel® ‡ No
Tecnología de virtualización Intel® (VT-x) ‡No
Intel® 64 ‡ No

>>>
Conjunto de instrucciones   32-bit
>>>

Estados de inactividad  No
Tecnología Intel SpeedStep® mejoradaSí
Conmutación según demanda Intel®No
(...)

O sea,

NO

JAP

update-alternatives, list alternatives?


I'm having another headache...

I want to make Icedove the default mail client.
I had this done on the last Jessie system I had (on a now defunct hdd).
But I can't recall how I did it, if it was with update-alternative or 
some other means..

And something that's been bothering me for a while is:
I can't seem to find or figure out how to list all the alternatives I 
can manage with update-alternatives.
I mean, I can get a list for a particular item, like x-www-browser or 
editor, but I want a list of all those possible things to update 
(x-www-browser, editor, etc.)

Is there such a list somewhere?
Thanks,
Tony

--
http://tonybaldwin.me
all tony, all the time

Re: permanently add dir to $PATH

2016-09-16 Thread Greg Wooledge

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:01:39AM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> The other problem is trying to permanently add $HOME/bin to the $PATH.
> 
> I have in .bash_profile
> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin
> export PATH
> 
> But every time I boot I have to manually add it again.

This is probably because you are logging in with a display manager
instead of ssh or a Linux console.  The display managers do not launch
a login shell, so your login shell configuration files are never read.

(This is why I never use a display manager.  Well, one of the reasons.)

You need to identify which display manager you're using, and then try
to figure out how to configure it as a user.  Good luck.  I've found
that most of them have absolutely ZERO documentation about this.

permanently add dir to $PATH

as mentioned, I'm working with a new Jessie installation and having a 
coupl headaches, the first had to do with getting a kernel module to 
load on boot (already wrote to the list about it.)


The other problem is trying to permanently add $HOME/bin to the $PATH.

I have in .bash_profile
PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin
export PATH

But every time I boot I have to manually add it again.

Any and all assistance appreciated in advance.

Thanks.
LLAP
Tony


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all tony, all the time

load module on boot?


Greetings, friends,
so something went wrong with my old Debian installation and it won't 
boot (dumps to emergency mode every time).
Consequently, I installed Jessie on the other hdd (that had win7), and 
I'm having a couple of minor troubles:
First, I need the snd-mixer-oss module to load on boot. I can load it 
manually once I'm already booted with

sudo modprobe snd-mixer-oss
, but I want it to be automatic so I don't have to do this.
googling got me two solutions, neither of which is working.
The first was to create an /etc/modules-load.d/modules.conf and  add a 
line like this:

alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss


The other was to create alsa.conf in the same dir with:
# ALSA portion
   alias char-major-116 snd
   alias snd-card-0 snd-ali5451
   # module options should go here

   # OSS/Free portion
   alias char-major-14 soundcore
   alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0

   # card #1
   alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
   alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
   alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
   alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
   alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss

Neither of these solutions seems to have made any difference.
I also looked for this module in rcconf, but it's not in there.
I'll ask about the other problem in another msg to keep two distinct 
threads.


Any and all assistance appreciated in advance.

LLAP,
Tony

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http://tonybaldwin.me
all tony, all the time

Re: [OT] Flash Player para linux "strikes back"

Bueno, no soy muy entendedor de estas cosas, pregunto en este hilo porque
la temática es de adobe flash player que no "funcionaría" en mi stretch
32bits. Haré comprobaciones sobre falshplugin-nonfree

El 16 de septiembre de 2016, 10:31, Jorge A. Secreto  escribió:

> hola
> ¿me parece a mi o estás secuestrando un hilo?
>
> El día 16 de septiembre de 2016, 10:22, Ignacio Martirén
>  escribió:
> > Tengo instalado Debian stretch 32bits en la notebook. Cómo puedo hacer
> para
> > que me funcione  las multimedia en Mozilla? No me queda claro lo que
> dicen
> > respecto de adobe flash player, tampoco funciona Gnash (?). En otra pc
> tengo
> > el mismo SO en 64bits y todo funciona bien. Cómo hago?
> >
>
> ¿Tenés instalado flashplugin-nonfree?
>
>
>
> > El 16 de septiembre de 2016, 10:06, Ignacio Martirén <
> simarti...@gmail.com>
> > escribió:
> >>
> >> Hola. Tengo instalado Debian stretch 32bits y no puedo usar yutube
> >>
> >>
> >> El 11 de septiembre de 2016, 13:01, Camaleón 
> >> escribió:
> >>>
> >>> El Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:06:40 +, Camaleón escribió:
> >>>
> >>> > Aviso a navegantes: la beta 23 no la detecta Firefox. Parece que
> además
> >>> > de Fedora (como dice la nota) tampoco funciona en Debian.
> >>>
> >>> Corrijo: la beta 23 funciona en testing (32 bits) pero no funciona en
> >>> wheezy (64 bits). Misterios "bibliotecarios", seguro.
> >>>
> >>> Saludos,
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Camaleón
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>   Ignacio
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >   Ignacio
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jorge A Secreto
> Analista de Sistemas
> MP 361
>
>


-- 
*  Ignacio*

Re: How to arrange for booting to console

2016-09-16 Thread David Wright

I missed this reply until Lisi bumped the thread.
These are my opinions, based of the pathetically little I know.

On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 18:52:59 (-0400), Harry Putnam wrote:
> The Wanderer  writes:
> 
> > On 2016-09-11 at 17:04, Harry Putnam wrote:
> >
> >> How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.   With the
> >> ability to startx when I feel like it.
> >> 
> 
> [...]
> 
> > The way I usually do it is to uninstall gdm, kdm, xdm, et cetera; those
> > are the packages which hook in to provide a graphical login prompt. With
> > none of them present, what you get is the traditional text-mode login
> > prompt, and your configured shell after login.
> >
> 
> [...]
> 
> That sounds promissing.  

It ought to. It's the display managers that start X. If they're not
there, you've to start it yourself with startx.

> Used one of the methods below and quickly
> realized I was expecting a nice big framebuffered text console with a
> much higher resolution than the standard.

But you got ... what?

If you want to know whether you're looking at a nice big framebuffered
text console, install fbset and type
$ fbset
If you see something like:

mode "1280x800"
geometry 1280 800 1280 800 32
timings 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
accel true
rgba 8/16,8/8,8/0,0/0
endmode

then you are.

BTW What's the "standard" resolution of which you speak?

> (Previously my OS of choice
> was gentoo), But of course all that has to be setup as I recall it
> is done with a few extra bits on the kernel line grub.conf
> 
> Using grub2 I'm thoroughly lost what or where one would edit to allow
> a console frame buffer.

I've yet to install a Debian system where the kernel didn't boot into
a console (VC1) running at anything other than the native/maximum
resolution. Now, maybe I'm lucky. Maybe I've had good fortune with
graphics devices, screens and everything else. But I would recommend
investigating exactly what you've got on booting up before you start
fiddling. Oh, and if you see your huge screen with a blurry 80x25
console on it, don't mistake font size for resolution.

Use   dpkg-reconfigure console-setup   to set utf-8, Latin1, the font
and its size. With a framebuffer you get more choice of size.
Note: don't ever run dpkg-reconfigure console-setup if X is running,
whether or not you're using it (eg by typing Ctl-Alt-Fn). It won't
have the desired effect and it might have you troubleshooting
problems of your own making.

As for systemctl set-default, no idea, never used it wittingly.
As for runlevels, well, as Lisi said, Debian doesn't use them in
the way some distributions do, which can cause confusion.
1 is single-user, 2 is normal. Apologies if that simplicity has been
abandoned in stretch since I last checked.

Cheers,
David.

Re: [OT] Flash Player para linux "strikes back"

2016-09-16 Thread Jorge A. Secreto

hola
¿me parece a mi o estás secuestrando un hilo?

El día 16 de septiembre de 2016, 10:22, Ignacio Martirén
 escribió:
> Tengo instalado Debian stretch 32bits en la notebook. Cómo puedo hacer para
> que me funcione  las multimedia en Mozilla? No me queda claro lo que dicen
> respecto de adobe flash player, tampoco funciona Gnash (?). En otra pc tengo
> el mismo SO en 64bits y todo funciona bien. Cómo hago?
>

¿Tenés instalado flashplugin-nonfree?



> El 16 de septiembre de 2016, 10:06, Ignacio Martirén 
> escribió:
>>
>> Hola. Tengo instalado Debian stretch 32bits y no puedo usar yutube
>>
>>
>> El 11 de septiembre de 2016, 13:01, Camaleón 
>> escribió:
>>>
>>> El Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:06:40 +, Camaleón escribió:
>>>
>>> > Aviso a navegantes: la beta 23 no la detecta Firefox. Parece que además
>>> > de Fedora (como dice la nota) tampoco funciona en Debian.
>>>
>>> Corrijo: la beta 23 funciona en testing (32 bits) pero no funciona en
>>> wheezy (64 bits). Misterios "bibliotecarios", seguro.
>>>
>>> Saludos,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Camaleón
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>   Ignacio
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>   Ignacio
>
>



-- 
Jorge A Secreto
Analista de Sistemas
MP 361

Re: [OT] Flash Player para linux "strikes back"

Tengo instalado Debian stretch 32bits en la notebook. Cómo puedo hacer para
que me funcione  las multimedia en Mozilla? No me queda claro lo que dicen
respecto de adobe flash player, tampoco funciona Gnash (?). En otra pc
tengo el mismo SO en 64bits y todo funciona bien. Cómo hago?

El 16 de septiembre de 2016, 10:06, Ignacio Martirén 
escribió:

> Hola. Tengo instalado Debian stretch 32bits y no puedo usar yutube
>
>
> El 11 de septiembre de 2016, 13:01, Camaleón 
> escribió:
>
>> El Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:06:40 +, Camaleón escribió:
>>
>> > Aviso a navegantes: la beta 23 no la detecta Firefox. Parece que además
>> > de Fedora (como dice la nota) tampoco funciona en Debian.
>>
>> Corrijo: la beta 23 funciona en testing (32 bits) pero no funciona en
>> wheezy (64 bits). Misterios "bibliotecarios", seguro.
>>
>> Saludos,
>>
>> --
>> Camaleón
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *  Ignacio*
>
>
>


-- 
*  Ignacio*

Re: [OT] Flash Player para linux "strikes back"

Hola. Tengo instalado Debian stretch 32bits y no puedo usar yutube


El 11 de septiembre de 2016, 13:01, Camaleón  escribió:

> El Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:06:40 +, Camaleón escribió:
>
> > Aviso a navegantes: la beta 23 no la detecta Firefox. Parece que además
> > de Fedora (como dice la nota) tampoco funciona en Debian.
>
> Corrijo: la beta 23 funciona en testing (32 bits) pero no funciona en
> wheezy (64 bits). Misterios "bibliotecarios", seguro.
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
>


-- 
*  Ignacio*

Re: Este CPU ¿puede soportar debian 64 bits?

Muchas gracias amigos

El 16 de septiembre de 2016, 9:23, fernando sainz <
fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com> escribió:

> 2016-09-16 14:16 GMT+02:00 Ignacio Martirén :
> > Estos son los datos de mi notebook. En una pc de escritorio tengo Debian
> > stretch 64bits y en esta notebook un Debian stretch 32bits. Dato que las
> > prestaciones de 64 bits son superiores, pido esta opinión a la lista.
> Muchas
> > gracias.
> >
> > ignacio@debian9:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
> > processor: 0
> > vendor_id: GenuineIntel
> > cpu family: 6
> > model: 14
> > model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU  T2250  @ 1.73GHz
>
> Hola.
>
> Creo que no es de 64 bits.
> De todas formas mete en google la linea del modelo y te saldrá la
> información.
>
>
> S2.
>
>  --
> >   Ignacio
> >
> >
>



-- 
*  Ignacio*

Re: Este CPU ¿puede soportar debian 64 bits?

2016-09-16 Thread Jorge A. Secreto

Hola

2016-09-16 9:16 GMT-03:00 Ignacio Martirén :
>
> Estos son los datos de mi notebook. En una pc de escritorio tengo Debian 
> stretch 64bits y en esta notebook un Debian stretch 32bits. Dato que las 
> prestaciones de 64 bits son superiores, pido esta opinión a la lista. Muchas 
> gracias.
>
> ignacio@debian9:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
> processor: 0
> vendor_id: GenuineIntel
> cpu family: 6
> model: 14
> model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU  T2250  @ 1.73GHz
.
> address sizes: 32 bits physical, 32 bits virtual

Acá te dice que es de 32 bits

> power management:
>
> processor: 1
> vendor_id: GenuineIntel
> cpu family: 6
> model: 14
> model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU  T2250  @ 1.73GHz

> address sizes: 32 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
Idem

> power management:
>
>
>
> --
>   Ignacio
>
>

Saludos


-- 
Jorge A Secreto
Analista de Sistemas
MP 361

Re: Este CPU ¿puede soportar debian 64 bits?

2016-09-16 Thread Ricardo Eureka!

En la primera salida de Google tienes la informacion:
http://ark.intel.com/es/products/27232/Intel-Core-Duo-Processor-T2250-2M-Cache-1_73-GHz-533-MHz-FSB


El 16 de septiembre de 2016, 9:23, fernando sainz <
fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com> escribió:

> 2016-09-16 14:16 GMT+02:00 Ignacio Martirén :
> > Estos son los datos de mi notebook. En una pc de escritorio tengo Debian
> > stretch 64bits y en esta notebook un Debian stretch 32bits. Dato que las
> > prestaciones de 64 bits son superiores, pido esta opinión a la lista.
> Muchas
> > gracias.
> >
> > ignacio@debian9:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
> > processor: 0
> > vendor_id: GenuineIntel
> > cpu family: 6
> > model: 14
> > model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU  T2250  @ 1.73GHz
>
> Hola.
>
> Creo que no es de 64 bits.
> De todas formas mete en google la linea del modelo y te saldrá la
> información.
>
>
> S2.
>
>  --
> >   Ignacio
> >
> >
>
>


-- 
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Administrador Aix/Linux - Avantia operadora de tarjetas S.A.
Sun Certified System Administrator - Solaris 10


"Aequam memento rebus in arduis servare mentem"

Re: Este CPU ¿puede soportar debian 64 bits?

2016-09-16 Thread fernando sainz

2016-09-16 14:16 GMT+02:00 Ignacio Martirén :
> Estos son los datos de mi notebook. En una pc de escritorio tengo Debian
> stretch 64bits y en esta notebook un Debian stretch 32bits. Dato que las
> prestaciones de 64 bits son superiores, pido esta opinión a la lista. Muchas
> gracias.
>
> ignacio@debian9:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
> processor: 0
> vendor_id: GenuineIntel
> cpu family: 6
> model: 14
> model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU  T2250  @ 1.73GHz

Hola.

Creo que no es de 64 bits.
De todas formas mete en google la linea del modelo y te saldrá la información.


S2.

 --
>   Ignacio
>
>

I have problems with the last updating of debian jessie

2016-09-16 Thread loren carretero

Good Morning.
I work to daily with linux debian jessie 8.1
Two days ago i updated my computer and suddenly the access to share folders 
with cifs has stopped working.
I have installed and uninstalled samba and packages associated and I havent 
been able to connect to remote server by to share folders with cifs.
The program that i use to connect is Nautilus.
The message that i receive when i try to connect is "Fallo en la 
autentificacion con el servidor" also i have received other message when dont 
write complety path from folder to share from server "No se puede acceder a la 
lista de compartición del servidor"
Thanks for all.




??

Este CPU ¿puede soportar debian 64 bits?

Estos son los datos de mi notebook. En una pc de escritorio tengo Debian
stretch 64bits y en esta notebook un Debian stretch 32bits. Dato que las
prestaciones de 64 bits son superiores, pido esta opinión a la lista.
Muchas gracias.

ignacio@debian9:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor: 0
vendor_id: GenuineIntel
cpu family: 6
model: 14
model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU  T2250  @ 1.73GHz
stepping: 12
microcode: 0x54
cpu MHz: 800.000
cache size: 2048 KB
physical id: 0
siblings: 2
core id: 0
cpu cores: 2
apicid: 0
initial apicid: 0
fdiv_bug: no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu: yes
fpu_exception: yes
cpuid level: 10
wp: yes
flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
cmov clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx constant_tsc
arch_perfmon bts aperfmperf eagerfpu pni monitor est tm2 xtpr pdcm dtherm
bugs:
bogomips: 3457.99
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment: 64
address sizes: 32 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
power management:

processor: 1
vendor_id: GenuineIntel
cpu family: 6
model: 14
model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU  T2250  @ 1.73GHz
stepping: 12
microcode: 0x54
cpu MHz: 800.000
cache size: 2048 KB
physical id: 0
siblings: 2
core id: 1
cpu cores: 2
apicid: 1
initial apicid: 1
fdiv_bug: no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu: yes
fpu_exception: yes
cpuid level: 10
wp: yes
flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
cmov clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx constant_tsc
arch_perfmon bts aperfmperf eagerfpu pni monitor est tm2 xtpr pdcm dtherm
bugs:
bogomips: 3458.02
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment: 64
address sizes: 32 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
power management:



-- 
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Re: How to arrange for booting to console

2016-09-16 Thread Lisi Reisz

On Sunday 11 September 2016 22:54:23 david...@freevolt.org wrote:
> If using systemd, these look relevant:
> > How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.
>
>  
> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TipsAndTricks/#changingth
>edefaultboottarget
>
>   # ln -sf /usr/lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target
> /etc/systemd/system/default.target
>
> > With the ability to startx when I feel like it.
>
>  
> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
>
>   # systemctl isolate graphical.target

Debian does not by default have an available multi-user CLI run level.

Lisi

Re: Windows

2016-09-16 Thread Lisi Reisz

On Friday 16 September 2016 09:34:56 Joe wrote:
> The same way you do in any medium-heavyweight Linux DE.

No, that is not how I do it in Linux, and having to do it that cumbersome way 
in Windows  and sometimes LibreOffice is a constant minor niggle.

In Linux, I sweep the mouse over what I want to copy to select it, then go to 
where I want to paste it and middle click.  On a two button mouse press both 
buttons simultaneously.

In my DE that even works in the terminal.

Lisi

Re: Windows

2016-09-16 Thread Chris Angelico

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Joe  wrote:
>> But this is no go in Windoze, and I don't
>> know how to Copy and Paste in the Windoze world.
>
> The same way you do in any medium-heavyweight Linux DE. Right-click,
> menu, or drag and drop. For a text file, open in Notepad (if it has
> a .txt suffix, just double-click), highlight, crtl-C, paste with
> ctrl-V. Where do you think the Linux DEs got their look and feel from?

The same place Windows got it from: the Common User Access guidelines.
Ctrl-Ins to copy, Shift-Ins to paste, and the Ctrl-X/C/V as optional
bonuses.

ChrisA

New Document is not shown in context menu by default

2016-09-16 Thread Joey Corleone

Debian Stretch (Gnome) - Standard install

I have noticed, the "New Document" option is not shown in the context
menu by default. You have to create an empty (text) file in
"xdg-user-dir TEMPLATES" to enable this option.

Of course it is only my opinion, but isn't it a common feature for
feature file browsers to offer this by default?

I was thinking about filing this as a bug (severity:wishlist) against
the nautilus package unless there is a rationale why it shouldn't be
default. Has this been discussed already?

Regards,

Joey

Re: (deb-cat) sudo as lp (resolt)

El 16/09/16 a les 11:44, Narcis Garcia ha escrit:
> El 16/09/16 a les 10:58, Xavi Drudis Ferran ha escrit:
>> El Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 09:28:34AM +0200, Narcis Garcia deia:
>>> Certament, a /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cupsd hi ha una línia concernent:
>>>   /etc/cups/interfaces/* ixrw,
>>> L'he desactivat (#) i he hagut d'executar per a què tingui efecte:
>>> apparmor stop
>>> apparmor teardown
>>> apparmor start
>>> i ara ja no tinc problema de permisos; tot funciona com s'espera.
>>>
>>> Gràcies Xavi, Alex, Orestes, Ernest per ajudar-me a encertar en aquest afer.
>>>
>>
>> Però has reiniciat cupsd també ? 
>>
>> Segur que funcionarà quan la màquina reinicii?
>> http://wiki.apparmor.net/index.php/FAQ#Controlling_AppArmor
>>
>> Ës que no en tinc ni idea, però em fa por que el teardown hagi eliminat totes
>> les restriccions d'apparmor i el start hagi carregat els perfils per tal que 
>> _la propera vegada que cupsd s'engigegui_ quedi confinat. Però fins que no 
>> s'engegui igual està sense cap restricció, no amb el perfil que li has 
>> modificat.
>>
>> Vull dir que no sé si ho has arreglat tocat el fitxer de perfil o el que has
>> fet ha sigut desactivar apparmor i el cupds en marxa està funcionant sense
>> cap perfil per ara... de manera que no sabem si el canvi de perfil funciona 
>> o no.
>>
>> Però no en tinc cap pràctica, no em creguis gaire. 
>>
>>
> 
> Gràcies per l'avís; he reiniciat l'ordinador i, com que la norma de
> /etc/cups/interfaces/* està deshabilitada, no hi ha norma i no hi ha
> permís de res.
> Suposo que el "teardown" símplement havia deshabilitat tota norma, i jo
> tant feliç. L'estrany és que els "restart" o "reload" que havia provat
> no tornés a carregar les normes d'Apparmor.
> 
> Això és una bogeria (també per la sintaxi dels perfils Apparmor), quasi
> estic pensant en deshabilitar el perfil complet d'Apparmor per cupsd.
> Provaré abans si aconsegueixo afegir permisos pel «sudoers» a
> /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.cupsd
> 

Ara si: He afegit aquesta línia a /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.cupsd :
  /etc/cups/interfaces/* ux,
He reiniciat l'ordinador, i ara el controlador~script de
/etc/cups/interfaces/ pot fer el què li doni la gana. Ni tan sols em cal
utilitzar el «sudo» per actuar com a un altre usuari.

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-16 Thread Vincent Lefevre

On 2016-09-15 15:34:10 -0500, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
> [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/UTF-8#links_and_elinks

And concerning elinks, it supports UTF-8 by default (I don't have
any config file for elinks), so no need to set a special config as
mentioned on this page.

-- 
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100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: 
Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)

Re: (deb-cat) sudo as lp

El 16/09/16 a les 10:58, Xavi Drudis Ferran ha escrit:
> El Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 09:28:34AM +0200, Narcis Garcia deia:
>> Certament, a /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cupsd hi ha una línia concernent:
>>   /etc/cups/interfaces/* ixrw,
>> L'he desactivat (#) i he hagut d'executar per a què tingui efecte:
>> apparmor stop
>> apparmor teardown
>> apparmor start
>> i ara ja no tinc problema de permisos; tot funciona com s'espera.
>>
>> Gràcies Xavi, Alex, Orestes, Ernest per ajudar-me a encertar en aquest afer.
>>
> 
> Però has reiniciat cupsd també ? 
> 
> Segur que funcionarà quan la màquina reinicii?
> http://wiki.apparmor.net/index.php/FAQ#Controlling_AppArmor
> 
> Ës que no en tinc ni idea, però em fa por que el teardown hagi eliminat totes
> les restriccions d'apparmor i el start hagi carregat els perfils per tal que 
> _la propera vegada que cupsd s'engigegui_ quedi confinat. Però fins que no 
> s'engegui igual està sense cap restricció, no amb el perfil que li has 
> modificat.
> 
> Vull dir que no sé si ho has arreglat tocat el fitxer de perfil o el que has
> fet ha sigut desactivar apparmor i el cupds en marxa està funcionant sense
> cap perfil per ara... de manera que no sabem si el canvi de perfil funciona o 
> no.
> 
> Però no en tinc cap pràctica, no em creguis gaire. 
> 
> 

Gràcies per l'avís; he reiniciat l'ordinador i, com que la norma de
/etc/cups/interfaces/* està deshabilitada, no hi ha norma i no hi ha
permís de res.
Suposo que el "teardown" símplement havia deshabilitat tota norma, i jo
tant feliç. L'estrany és que els "restart" o "reload" que havia provat
no tornés a carregar les normes d'Apparmor.

Això és una bogeria (també per la sintaxi dels perfils Apparmor), quasi
estic pensant en deshabilitar el perfil complet d'Apparmor per cupsd.
Provaré abans si aconsegueixo afegir permisos pel «sudoers» a
/etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.cupsd

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-16 Thread Vincent Lefevre

On 2016-09-15 15:34:10 -0500, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
> >On 2016-09-15 12:29:50 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> 
> >Links does not support UTF-8. The other ones do.
> 
> Where is the support for that conclusion?  It appears to be incorrect.[1]
> 
> [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/UTF-8#links_and_elinks

OK, so if I understand correctly, it does not support UTF-8
by default, and one needs to explicitly enable it. That's
still a buggy way to support UTF-8. This should be automatic
based on locales, just like with other applications that run
in a terminal.

-- 
Vincent Lefèvre  - Web: 
100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: 
Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)

Re: internet connectivity from Comcast

2016-09-16 Thread Curt

On 2016-09-16, David Wright  wrote:
>
> I think I'll quit here. Carrying on is too painful.

I'm here praying the machinery has the kind of malfunction that locks
the pod bay doors while the pilot is out on a leisurely space walk.

> Cheers,
> David.
>
>

-- 
“Whatever is rejected from the self, appears in the world as an event.” 
C.G. Jung

Re: (deb-cat) sudo as lp (resolt)

2016-09-16 Thread Xavi Drudis Ferran

El Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 09:28:34AM +0200, Narcis Garcia deia:
> Certament, a /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cupsd hi ha una línia concernent:
>   /etc/cups/interfaces/* ixrw,
> L'he desactivat (#) i he hagut d'executar per a què tingui efecte:
> apparmor stop
> apparmor teardown
> apparmor start
> i ara ja no tinc problema de permisos; tot funciona com s'espera.
> 
> Gràcies Xavi, Alex, Orestes, Ernest per ajudar-me a encertar en aquest afer.
> 

Però has reiniciat cupsd també ? 

Segur que funcionarà quan la màquina reinicii?
http://wiki.apparmor.net/index.php/FAQ#Controlling_AppArmor

Ës que no en tinc ni idea, però em fa por que el teardown hagi eliminat totes
les restriccions d'apparmor i el start hagi carregat els perfils per tal que 
_la propera vegada que cupsd s'engigegui_ quedi confinat. Però fins que no 
s'engegui igual està sense cap restricció, no amb el perfil que li has 
modificat.

Vull dir que no sé si ho has arreglat tocat el fitxer de perfil o el que has
fet ha sigut desactivar apparmor i el cupds en marxa està funcionant sense
cap perfil per ara... de manera que no sabem si el canvi de perfil funciona o 
no.

Però no en tinc cap pràctica, no em creguis gaire.

Re: exim4 some config error causing error how to pinpoint

2016-09-16 Thread Liam O'Toole

On 2016-09-15, Harry Putnam  wrote:
> Liam O'Toole  writes:
>
>>> Mail never appears at HOST1 /var/spool/mail/user2
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Does user2 appear in the file /etc/aliases on HOST1? Is there a
> No
>
>> /home/user2/.forward file on that host? Either of those would cause mail
> No
>
>> Is there anything suspicious in the file /var/log/exim4/mainlog on
>> HOST1?
> Yes, there is this bit that seems to indicate that the message is
> being processed by procmail.
>
> dv.local.lan is HOST1  smarthost set to smtp.gmail.com
> d2.local.lan is HOST2  smarthost set to HOST1
>
> There is a user named `harry' on both hosts.
>
> ---   ---   ---=---   ---   --- 
> 2016-09-15 12:40:29 1bkZi9-Ne-MU <= ha...@d2.local.lan H=(d2.local.lan) 
> [192.168.1.17] P=esmtp S=608 id=e1bkza7-0006mb...@d2.local.lan
> 2016-09-15 12:40:31 1bkZi9-Ne-MU => harry  R=procmail 
> T=procmail_pipe
> 2016-09-15 12:40:31 1bkZi9-Ne-MU Completed
> 2016-09-15 12:52:31 Start queue run: pid=1574
> 2016-09-15 12:52:31 End queue run: pid=1574
> ---   ---   ---=---   ---   --- 
>
> There is a ~/.procmailrc for user2 but no specifc recipe that would
> grab mail addressed to USER2@HOST1 (harry@dv).
>
> However my .procmailrc has a final rule that catches anything not
> already handled:
>
>  :0
>   post_ex.in
>
> However the mail addressed user2@host1 is not going to that inbox (or
> any other) either.
>
> But dropping that mystery for the time being there seems to be
> something bigger happening.
>
> Since my previous post I have found that all those test messages to
> user2 and user1 on HOST1 from HOST2 are being sent out to the
> HOST1 smarthost and piling up as undeleverable on a gmail account.  My
> smarthost is smtp.gmail.com
>
> I guess that does make sense.  However I guess I just supposed that
> somehow HOST1 would magically know not to try to send mail from other
> lan hosts addressed to users on HOST1, out to the internet smarthost.
>
> Maybe I need some other mechanism for that to happen?
>
> To summarize the setup again very briefly... since it seems to be
> getting more confusing ... at least to me.
>
> HOST1 is setup to relay mail from its users to an internet smarthost
> (smtp.gmail.com).
>
> HOST2 is setup to relay mail from its users to HOST1 as its smarthost
>
> When I try to send a message from USER@HOST2 to USER@HOST1, instead of
> just delivering to USER@HOST1 it appears to be sending that message on
> to the gmail smtp server.
>
> The local lan is not a real FQDN so not suprising that the gmail
> server cannot deliver it but how to prevent that local mail from
> being sent to gmail server to start with?
>
>

You need to tell exim4 on HOST1 that it is the 'final destination' for
emails within your local network. If you go back through the debconf
questions for exim4-config, you'll be asked about 'Other destinations
for which mail is accepted'. In your case the answer should be
'*.local.lan'. Then local emails will no longer be forwarded upstream.
Obviously, you will need to ensure that the various local fully
qualified domain names are resolvable, either by running your own DNS or
maintaining /etc/host files correctly.

-- 

Liam

Re: Windows

2016-09-16 Thread Joe

On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 21:02:04 -0400 (EDT)
Alan McConnell  wrote:

> - Original Message -
> From: "Felix Miata" 
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:20:54 PM
> Subject: Re: internet connectivity from Comcast
> 
> Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-15 13:36 (UTC-0400):
>  

> 
> # grep ntfs /etc/fstab
> /dev/sda6 /win/C ntfs-3g
> nofail,users,gid=100,fmask=0111,dmask=,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
> Already this doesn't work.  I put my /etc/fstab on a USB stick which
> has a VFAT file system on it, and my Windoze made a most satisfying
> chime when I stuck the stick into one of the sockets on my USB
> splitter.   I would give you the whole short text file if I could
> swipe my mouse over it.  But this is no go in Windoze, and I don't
> know how to Copy and Paste in the Windoze world.

The same way you do in any medium-heavyweight Linux DE. Right-click,
menu, or drag and drop. For a text file, open in Notepad (if it has
a .txt suffix, just double-click), highlight, crtl-C, paste with
ctrl-V. Where do you think the Linux DEs got their look and feel from?

>  So I'll just say
> here that my fstab simply enumerates the partitions I made when I
> installed.  Those are /dev/sda3, /dev/sda4, etc.  No mention
> of /dev/sda1, which is I believe called C: in the Windoze world.  I
> have my fstab, on E:, open as I write, but the wretched Notepad pays
> no attention to the Unix 'CR's !  !  Takes me back decades!.  

Use Wordpad.

/etc/fstab doesn't know about any partitions you didn't install with,
even if they're Linux. Systemd will generally mount things, either at
boot or on demand as you explicitly tell it with new fstab entries.
Removable media will generally be automounted under /media/ and don't need fstab entries. It's the job of grub to pick up
other installed OSes, and boot them. Grub doesn't want to know about
their filesystems.

I don't know the incantation for mounting a Windows partition for a
user, I've never bothered with it. If I run Linux on my Win8a laptop, I
get the partitions mounted automatically with root privileges, and if I
really need to write to one, I open mc with sudo. But I do usually use
a FAT USB stick, and either OS automounts it R/W.

-- 
Joe

Re: NTFS access on Debian boot

2016-09-16 Thread Lisi Reisz

On Friday 16 September 2016 05:42:29 David Wright wrote:
> noone is reading this, are they?

I am!! Hey!  Look!  Over here!  

Lisi

Re: (deb-cat) sudo as lp

2016-09-16 Thread Xavi Drudis Ferran

El Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:16:56AM +0200, Xavi Drudis Ferran deia:
> 
> 
> No conec gaire apparmour, però no sé si aquestos s'aplicarien a l'script 
> de /etc/cups/interfaces. 
> 

Ah, doncs res, ja veig que sí. 
No havia llegit la resposta mentre escrivia...

Re: (deb-cat) sudo as lp

2016-09-16 Thread Xavi Drudis Ferran

El Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 12:27:55AM +0200, Alex Muntada deia:
> Narcis Garcia:
> 
> > Ja he avançat en el problema (que no en la solució): CUPS executa el
> > controlador /etc/cups/interfaces/Epson1 engabiat d'alguna manera, de
> > manera que només té accés a alguns directoris.
> > 
> > Això és el què obtinc si el programet només executa "ls /":
> > ls: no s’ha pogut obrir el directori /: S’ha denegat el permís
> > 
> > I això per fi he aconseguit si executa sudo -n -u UnUsuari /bin/bash -c
> > "ls /"
> > sudo: no s'ha pogut obrir /etc/sudoers: S’ha denegat el permís
> > sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
> > sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin
> 
> Fa pudor d'apparmor:
> 
> $ apt-file search /etc/apparmor.d/ | grep cups
> apparmor: /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/cups-client
> cups-browsed: /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cups-browsed
> cups-daemon: /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cupsd
> 
> Mira quines restriccions té /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cupsd perquè
> m'ensumo que la cosa va per aquí.
> 
> Salut,
> Alex
> 


No conec gaire apparmour, però no sé si aquestos s'aplicarien a l'script 
de /etc/cups/interfaces. 


Cupsd no executara l'script d'interfície directament (crec, podria
segons casos, sembla).  El que fa és generar un profile d'apparmor (en
un fitxer temporal) i cridar a /usr/lib/cups/daemon/cups-exec amb el
profile i l'script perquè el cridi ell.  cups-exec crea un sandbox amb
el profile i llavors fa l'exec de l'script

El fitxer temporal amb el profile sembla que permet llegir els fitxers
de la tasca d'impressió actual (i escriure alguns altres i fer algunes
connexions, segons la configuració concreta dels directoris que usa
cupsd). No he investigat en detall però possiblement els fitxers de
claus públiques de servidors no es poden llegir i ssh (si l'arribes a
poder executar) ho té fotut. S'hauria de mirar amb lupa.

start_job() crea un profile d'apparmor en un fitxer temporal (a a partir de 
text hardcoded al programa).
https://github.com/apple/cups/blob/master/scheduler/job.c#L4711
https://github.com/apple/cups/blob/master/scheduler/process.c#L72

Després start_job() crida continueJob() 
https://github.com/apple/cups/blob/master/scheduler/job.c#L482

que crida cupsdStartProcess()
https://github.com/apple/cups/blob/master/scheduler/job.c#L1198
https://github.com/apple/cups/blob/master/scheduler/process.c#L450

que decideix si crida cups-exec basat en opcions de compilació i si té profile 
(sembla que sempre en té, de manera que sempre deu cridar cups_exec)
https://github.com/apple/cups/blob/master/scheduler/process.c#L548

cups-exec "si cal" crea un sandbox per executar el procés
https://github.com/apple/cups/blob/master/scheduler/cups-exec.c
https://github.com/apple/cups/blob/master/scheduler/cups-exec.c#L145

Però cal, perquè li passen el fitxer temporal que han creat abans com
a paràmetre profile (no és el primer paràmetre, sinó el primer sense
-, el comentari del principi del fitxer és incorrecte, el missatge
d'ús del final és correcte).

El nom del fitxer temporal no és molt aleatori, es basa en l'hora actual 
passada a hexadecimal. Segurament hi ha maneres millors de crear fitxers
temporals, però potser no tan portables ? El directori serà /tmp, o el 
valor de $TMPDIR.

https://github.com/apple/cups/blob/master/cups/tempfile.c

Re: Remote access toestaan naar MariaDB server

2016-09-16 Thread mj


Hoi Paul,

Wij doen dit als volgt:: mysql tunnelen over ssh. Kan met elke ssh 
client (putty, onder windows) maar wij gebruiken navicat:


https://www.navicat.com/download/

Dit is een mysql client met ingebouwde ssh functionaliteit. Maakt eerst 
een ssh naar je mysql server, en van daaruit connect ie naar mysql op 
localhost.


Hoef je dus alleen ssh open te zetten.

Groet,
MJ

On 09/16/2016 09:18 AM, Paul van der Vlis wrote:

Op 15-09-16 om 22:45 schreef Geert Stappers:

Heeft er hier iemand tips?


* Verder zoeken naar een mariadb met SSL, ook meteen naar clients zoeken.
* Zelf compileren en als je toch bezig bent, ook clients.


Het lijkt er op dat er toch SSL mogelijk is, dat je de MariaDB server
moet starten met de "--ssl" optie. Waarschijnlijk kan dit via een optie
in my.cnf.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24058225/debian-mysql-yassl-setting-up-certificates

https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/secure-connections-overview/

MariaDB [(none)]> SHOW VARIABLES LIKE 'have_ssl';
+---+--+
| Variable_name | Value|
+---+--+
| have_ssl  | DISABLED |
+---+--+
1 row in set (0.01 sec)

Als het er geen SSL in zou zitten, zou deze value "NO" zijn begrijp ik.


* Tunnel technieken als VPN


Uiteraard kan dat, maar is lastiger natuurlijk.


Ik vond/vind het trouwens wel een interresante vraag.
Ik had niet gedacht dat MySQL zelf SSL zou kunnen doen.
Dank voor het vergroten van mijn wereld.


Het schijnt al ondersteund te worden sinds 2001 volgens deze pagina:
https://mariadb.org/state-ssl-mariadb/

Maar volgens mij wordt het niet veel gebruikt.

Hier nog een manual voor MySQL 5.5:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/creating-ssl-files-using-openssl.html

Debian schijnt Yassl te gebruiken terwijl verder openssl gebruikt wordt,
dit Yassl schijnt in het MySQL package zelf te zitten lees ik o.a. hier:
https://www.debian.org/security/key-rollover/notvuln.en.html

Groeten,
Paul.

Re: (deb-cat) sudo as lp (resolt)