Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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There's a bug, fixed in 2.2.1, where the widget would show "No Players"
when the notification was not showing (along with a few in-between
cases). 

Starting with 2.2.0, timely widget updates are tied to the presence of
the notification. If you swipe away the notification (or on Android 4.x,
hit the X button) then you are killing the server connection and the
widget will no longer updated immediately. It will be updated per a
typical Android widget update interval, 30 minutes. Not terribly useful
though.

The notification has a purpose. It serves to let you know that your
device has a background service running, and is actually 100% mandatory
in Android 8.0 anyways to prevent your service from being killed very
quickly. If you strongly dislike the notification, then on most modern
devices you can choose to hide notifications from specific apps.

FTR, tested here on Android 4.4, 5.1, 7.0 and 8.0. 

I'm going to start a new thread for 2.2.x to pull things together. Maybe
move the discussion over there.
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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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short_y wrote: 
> One of the things I miss is the persistent notification and the ability
> to control my squeezeboxen from it. What're the chances it'll be
> (re)implemented?

Finally added in 2.2.0-beta1. 

https://www.orangebikelabs.com/products/orangesqueeze/beta


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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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Wombat wrote: 
> On my Samsung tablet, android 5.1.1 the widget pause button most of the
> time does nothing with the recent version. I didn't use the last
> versions in a while.
> 
> Edit: when i hammer the pause button of the widget it seems to produce a
> command jam and even after starting the app all inputs are ignored for a
> while.
> Edit2: fixed and working with todays update to version 2.1.10. Many
> thanks!!

Sorry it took so long to fix, I was on vacation for a week. Glad the fix
works for you.


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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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short_y wrote: 
> One of the things I miss is the persistent notification and the ability
> to control my squeezeboxen from it. What're the chances it'll be
> (re)implemented?

Chances are pretty good. Keep an eye out.


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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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bitjockey wrote: 
 
 If I add an album to my LMS without rescanning my library, I can access
 the newly-added material from my Duet or Boom controller by scrolling
 through the Music Folder list.
 Yet Orange Squeeze seems to be building the folder from the previous
 scan, and doesn't build the list dynamically. 

Orange Squeeze caches certain queries (including music folder browsing)
for 24 hours. Previous versions of LMS were so slow browsing by music
folder that it was a very commonly requested feature, particularly with
users running LMS on lower-powered NAS devices.

You can force a refresh of any list by finding the Refresh option
(menu button on Samsung devices, option menu in upper right on most
others).

It's probably time for me to revisit this default behavior if folder
browsing speed has improved.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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mherger wrote: 
  If I add an album to my LMS without rescanning my library, I can
 access
  the newly-added material from my Duet or Boom controller by scrolling
  through the Music Folder list.
  Yet Orange Squeeze seems to be building the folder from the previous
  scan, and doesn't build the list dynamically.
 
 That might actually be the result of a LMS bug: LMS doesn't update the 
 last scan timestamp in BMF mode. What version are you running? I think
 
 I fixed this in the 7.8.x branch. You might want to give this a try if 
 you haven't already.

With this set, I could at least force a refresh if it's been updated --
but it wouldn't allow a user to browse in to a folder to trigger a
selective scan of content that LMS itself hasn't scanned yet. I guess
that's what refresh is there for, still.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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doctor_big wrote: 
 
 I've recently started using this app, and it looks great.  The only
 issue is that it seems to be re-downloading the artist art cache each
 time I go into the app. It also always asks me to confirm that I want to
 use my one and only music library. 
 
 Anyway, when I scroll through my library it takes a long while for the
 album art to catch up with the scrolling.  
 
 I'm using this on a Nexus 5 and my server version is 7.9 on a well-tuned
 WHS box. The library contains 9000 or so albums.
 

Are you using the beta or 2.0.x? The released beta has some annoying
quirks. Must. Release. Updated. Beta.

Otherwise, it could be an incompatibility or just bad behavior between
Orange Squeeze and 7.9 nightlies. I haven't tried 7.9 yet, so if it
works at all, it's solely because the LMS maintainers are doing a great
job of keeping backwards compatibility.

I'll add it to my list of things to check, but I've only got a few
hours/week to work on the app...



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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mherger wrote: 
 
 How do you decide whether the image cache needs to be renewed?
 

For album artwork, it simply looks at the scan timestamp. When it
changes, it invalidates the artwork along with any other cached data
associated with that server. For remote artwork (and url's proxied
through the server) it's a bit dumber, just caching for 24 hrs. I don't
really see how LMS would have broken this -- I think he might be using
the beta, which might have a performance issue/bug there. I seem to
remember fixing one of those but it's idling in my dev branch.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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poing wrote: 
 Okay, so it's probably not Android Lollipop related after all.
 
 I also have to kill the task. Only after kill and rerunning the app, it
 works. It's a relatively new problem for me. I'm fairly sure I haven't
 had this issue prior to a recent app update.

FYI, 2.0.15 (2015!) will be coming out this weekend that fixes several
issues (hopefully this one, although I never duplicated it exactly)
across a range of Android versions. Regardless of whether it resolves
all issues, I hope it is at least an improvement for everyone. Working
hard to port these and other fixes forward to the beta/preview too.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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bebop wrote: 
 I am currently testing this great app to see if I should by an Android
 tablet and stick it on the wall for my music system, and I must say that
 it works like a treat :-)
 My main problem is, that I can not get wake on lan to work, I have tried
 with both auto and manual MAC address but no luck.
 I am currently running the 1.4 preview, and I test it onBlue Stack app
 player on my PC. I have tested a dedicated android WOL app on this
 setup, and that works nicely.
 
 I did some packet analyzing with Wire shark, and there I can see that
 the Orange Squeeze program does not send out any WOL packets.
 
 I use the app from outside my homenetwork, but other apps works ok with
 this setup, so Orange Squeeze should be able to do the same, have other
 users had problems with this ?

Can you elaborate on your network setup? If Orange Squeeze has trouble
deciding/locating the proper broadcast address for the WOL packet, it
won't send it, so that seems like what is likely happening. In
particular, it will only send WOL over WiFi.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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bebop wrote: 
 Maybe you could add a manual input IP field like you have have the MAC
 address option ? Thanks, I suspect this is what we will end up doing.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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verypsb wrote: 
 I really like Orange Squeeze, but experience frequent connection
 problems on my Google Nexus 7. It doesn't seem to find my Logitech Media
 Server, while Squeezecommander can find my Logitech Media Server without
 problems... Is this a known problem?

Not really a known issue, but that doesn't make it valid. I use it on a
N7 all the time. What LMS server version?

I'd love to see logs generated when these connection hiccups happen.
With a N7 you can use a trick to send a developer report by holding down
vol up/vol down/power simultaneously. Android 4.1 made it much harder to
get reliable log files from non-rooted devices. You can also use the
menu item in preferences to submit logs, but often by the time you
navigate there the relevant data is gone.

Also, you might try the preview builds if you haven't already. There are
quite a few connectivity-related changes (but nothing specific I can
point to to solve your problem) in the 1.4-preview series.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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cdmackay wrote: 
 I thought I asked this before, but can't seem to find it...
 
 Would you please consider possibly adding a volume control to the
 lockscreen plugin?
 

I think you might have emailed directly, but yes it's on the radar.
Thanks.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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mbw2001 wrote: 
 Hey. Just bought the app and loving it so far.
 
 However i noticed one thing. I am using the DenonSerial addon on my
 Squeezebox to control the volume on my Denon Amp.
 
 This works like a charm with the volume buttons in the standard version,
 however in the preview version the volume is listed as locked and
 cannot be changed.
 
We'll fix this for the next preview release. Thanks.

 
 Lastly i see a few posts about optimizing screen realestate for tablets.
 Any plans on that? Most look fine on a tablet, however when browsing the
 library a lot of the screen is wasted. Listing albums as coverart with
 multiple albums on a line instead of as a list with the album name to
 the right would improve the look a lot.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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Just dropped a new preview release out on Google Play. It's pretty big,
as these release go, because it adds support for modifying player alarms
and other items through the player settings jive menu. Lots of other
changes too, so check it out.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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ulvi wrote: 
 I must be missing something since this is such basic functionality:
 When I have a playlist and I want to quickly edit it (knock off some of
 the
 items), there must be a screen where each item in the list is
 selectable
 for deletion. How do I get there?

You can't, it doesn't. There's no real extra playlist management beyond
what the basic Jive support enables.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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sbp wrote: 
 Hi 
 I just updated to the new version today (preview 1.4.0 -20130116-1120)-
 but now there is a problem:
 
 If you are at the artist page and want to play an album, you often get
 the album below the one you want to hear:
 
 If you have a long press on the cover picture - you always get the album
 below.
 If you have a long press on the Album title - you always get the album
 below.
 If you press on the triangle (to the right on this screen) - you get the
 correct album.
 
 It is working fine in the non-preview version 1.37.
 
Hi there, thanks for reporting. This is a known issue and as you note,
the easiest workaround is to use the triangle.  That's what I use all
the time, which is why the long-press problem wasn't caught earlier.

You're going to be seeing lots of turnover and general instability in
the preview version for the next month or so, so if your tolerance for
bugs is low it's a great time to stick with 1.3.7! :-)



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Re: [slim] Transporter on sale for $850 ???

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And it's out of stock today.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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slimhase wrote: 
 Hi DB122.
 Anything on the horizon wrt the unvisible text issue (for bw e-ink
 displays)?
 
Heiner, I did put an attempt to fix this in place for 1.3, and asked you
about it somewhere back, but never heard. I assume it didn't work then?
Can you take a picture with a camera and send it to me?

 
 P.S. Other than that, I noticed that when moving form screen to screen
 (i.e. search to players) the new screen sometimes 'hangs' i.e. new menue
 only shows partly and is not centered. Any change in a future update to
 have an option to enable / disable screen animations? That would also
 help on the more static e-ink displays.
 (However, I do understand, that users running Orange-Squeeze on e-ink
 devices are not you main target group...)
I'll have to think about that one. It's too bad that the ROM for the
e-ink devices can't disable animations for some of the core components
on its own, if they won't work properly



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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JonWill wrote: 
 
 I've just entered the world of Orange Squeeze having downloaded it for
 my Xmas Nexus 7 - and am initially very impressed.  However, I can't
 seem to find out how to set the alarm on my Radio (important
 functionality for me whilst sitting on the sofa) - I note from the
 previous OS v1 thread that this may be deliberate... is this the case? 
 Or if not where should I be looking?
 
Hi Jon, it isn't deliberate in that it's a feature we left out because
we don't believe people should have alarms, it's deliberate in that it
just hasn't been done yet because other things have had a higher
priority.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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slimhase wrote: 
 DB122;
 Oh, one other thing: You mention Andriod 2.2
 I think Nook's Android is 2.1
 Can that be part of the issue?

Most likely that is the issue -- you won't even see the custom color set
on Android 2.1.  I see lots of people using custom Android 2.2 ROMs on
Nook Simple Touch though. Are you simply using a stock ROM that's been
rooted then?



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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fphredd wrote: 
 I'm not sure if this is a change or I never noticed, but from now
 playing, now playing toolbar, or widget, I can skip to the next song but
 not previous (or beginning of current). Did that button go away? I would
 customize mine without thumbs up/down if given the choice in order to
 make room.

In general, the track-back button will only appear if it's a valid
choice, and same for thumbs up/thumbs down. At first blush, I'd guess
you're using Pandora, last.fm or some other service that allows you to
love/ban tracks or something like that but doesn't allow playlist
navigation. Each of these services is slightly different though, so
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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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JonWill wrote: 
 Thanks for the answerlittle bit of a priority for me...

I certainly understand and you're not alone



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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slimhase wrote: 
 O-oh. Yes, I am using a rooted Nook w/ a slightly modified Rom, but
 still Android 2.1.
 Does this mean dead end for me?
 
No, not a dead-end at all. Send an email to me
(tbsan...@orangebikelabs.com) and I will send you a test build off-list.

 
 I still use the Nook 85% as a reader, that's why I did not attempt to
 change the ROM entirely.
 Also: Where did you see people using Android 2.2 on Nook simple touch?
 Can you point me somewhere? I did not find this so far (XDA-deleoper
 aso)
 
My mistake, I was just not reading carefully. Sorry to get your hopes
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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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yocky wrote: 
 I've just installed 1.3.4 from the Market.
 
 I noticed in a previous version that downloading files had been made
 possible, saw the relevant section in preferences where i could specify
 the download location, but didn't get round to testing it. Now with the
 latest version I don't see any reference to downloading in the menus or
 preferences at all

While browsing, use the context/action menu (the triangle thing) and
look for a Download menu item at the bottom of the list. We've tried
to support detection of tracks within most hierarchies that can contain
local tracks. Download preferences are available from the screen that
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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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yocky wrote: 
 OK, yep found it and it works.
 
 I still don't see an option to specify the download location...which I'm
 sure was there before. I'd really like to be able to download to my
 external SD card rather than the inbuilt storage.
 
 I notice ratings are possible now, is that new?

Argh! That download location preference definition didn't get migrated
over to the new download preferences. It's all in there, but you have no
way to set it. I'll fix it tonight.

Ratings support is new in 1.3, simply because of improvements to the
Jive-style browsing and the context menu support for now playing.
Nothing new in 1.3.4 that I'm aware of though.



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yocky wrote: 
 Great, thanks a lot. Mighty fast support shift working tonight!

1.3.5 is out, it should be made available soon with this preference
reenabled.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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Thank you everyone for the kind words about Orange Squeeze. Like many
(most?) of you, I've been a member of this community for the past ten
years and am constantly impressed with its cooperative and collaborative
spirit. I'm looking forward to a music-filled 2013!



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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bluegaspode wrote: 
 Ben, 
 
 I got two reports from users, who say SqueezePlayer is now starting up,
 whenever they receive a call. 
 I do see, that you have an 'On call received' option. Is there a
 possibility that this one wakes up SqueezePlayer?
 

OK, I've pushed a fix out to the preview channel to fix this. There are
actually a lot of under-the-cover changes, so it needs testing and I'm
off to my other job today. I'm hoping that I will be promoting the
preview to 1.3.2 stable very soon. Everyone hammer away on the preview
for me, ok? :-)



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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slimhase wrote: 
 Hi db122; any chance to work on this?
 I checked the 2 themes you provided, but the issue is present on both of
 them..
 

Relating to the all-white dialog issue on Android 2.2 and e-ink devices,
the latest preview (just released now) makes an attempt to color the
dialog in more stark contrast (departing from the Android 2.2 defaults),
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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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bluegaspode wrote: 
 Ben, 
 
 I got two reports from users, who say SqueezePlayer is now starting up,
 whenever they receive a call. 
 I do see, that you have an 'On call received' option. Is there a
 possibility that this one wakes up SqueezePlayer?
 

Sure, that's not exactly how it's supposed to work but I see the
problem. For now, disabling the squeezeplayer autostart will stop that
behavior. Simply changing the on call received setting won't be enough.
I'll get a fix in progress. Thanks!



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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pippin wrote: 
 Update: Killing OrangeSqueeze has helped and at least after killing it
 also the player did not automatically restart when looking at the
 lock-screen widget (it's never been my selected player there)

So for 1.3.x, I would expect that Orange Squeeze would keep the local
SqueezePlayer active for as long as Orange Squeeze has a connection to
the server. This means that if you are using widgets, any time your
screen is on your device will maintain a connection to your server and
also keep your local SqueezePlayer running. If you turn your screen off
or it times out and turns off automatically, Orange Squeeze will time
its server connection out to save power, and it will also cease to keep
SqueezePlayer alive. SqueezePlayer can then time out according to its
own policies then.

As discussed earlier, killing Orange Squeeze (e.g. its services) will
cause this behavior to stop -- at least temporarily. However, because
the Orange Squeeze power management service is sticky, it may be
restarted by the system automatically. The reason for this is that if
your device is under load or memory constraints, then even the services
that you want running may be killed by the system. This is a good thing,
because it lets you play games or do things that consume all of the
device resources and then sticky services will be restarted at the first
opportunity so that your widgets and such will start working again
automatically. While the power management service will be restarted
automatically, I want to reiterate that this service is very lightweight
and is nothing like a server connection at all.

Note that for 1.3.x, every time a connection is established, the local
SqueezePlayer instance will also be started if that is enabled in the
Orange Squeeze preferences. Right now this happens for every reconnect,
including reconnects for the lock screen widget, etc. I'll have to think
about how to improve this behavior, because it probably isn't necessary
in a few limited scenarios (widgets active for different players).
However, when the user opens up the UI again we would want the player
started up automatically, I suppose.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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pippin wrote: 
 Yes. Actually all of what you write would be the behavior I would expect
 and want.
OK, good, thanks Pippin. I'm going to release a new preview sometime
today, and I will add a bit of temporary logging to it that won't
require you to enable 'verbose logging' to see. I'm hoping it will tell
us which of the following is happening:

1) OS is not shutting itself down properly and keeping the connection
active (unlikely, since the network connection would show a significant
power draw in your situation).
2) OS is shutting itself down, but still somehow sending pings to
SqueezePlayer even though the rest of the service is shut down (I've
audited this section of code and don't see it myself, but I can't rule
it out 100%)
3) SqueezePlayer is keeping itself active through some other mechanism

Once you get the update, just use your device as normal and use the
submit logs to send a log to me when you wake up and notice that
SqueezePlayer stayed awake too long. We will hope that the log data
won't roll over -- there is a limit to how much Android keeps.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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pippin wrote: 
 Well, there certainly still _is_ a connection (after all, at least SP
 communicates with the server) and OS/WiFi are (a distant) #2 and #4 in
 the battery drain list at 13% and 8%.
 
 I'll send the logs when it happens again.

Thanks.

My guess is that there's only a connection for SP, separate from OS. If
I remember correctly, when I fixed the bug that was leaving the
connection up for much longer, OS was taking ~60% of the power drain for
your situation, so based on those numbers I'm assuming that the OS
connection was dropped correctly. The logs should contain enough
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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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tbessie wrote: 
 After installing Orange Squeeze, I see it has several processes/services
 running, even when I'm not using it.  Is there any way to configure it
 to NOT have these running if the app is not running in the foreground? I
 hate it when apps run all the time like that.

First off, don't assume that a service running means that there is
anything happening or power drain from the process. It doesn't.

One service runs all the time: the power management service. It simply
receives notifications when the screen turns on and off, wifi comes up
and down, etc. There are no active running threads or connections
associated with this service and it will not take any cpu or draw any
power. There is no way to disable this although you could try
experimenting with task killers, etc. to kill it if you like. It won't
accomplish anything, but do what you like. It will break some of the app
behavior if this service is not running (specifically, power saving
features).

There is a second service and that maintains a connection to the server.
You absolutely need this if you use the widgets at all. If you don't use
the widgets and are OK with the connection being dropped every time
Orange Squeeze moves to the background (any task comes in front of it)
then you can set the connection timeout in the preferences to a very low
value. The default will have the service shut itself down after a minute
or two of the app being in the background (and no widgets).

My advice: before you spent too much time worrying about it, check your
device power management screen to see if the app is actually taking any
significant power. If it's not taking power, then it's also not slowing
your device down because cpu usage = power drain. You can only do these
tests if the device is running off battery, by the way.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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tbessie wrote: 
 
 So I just installed Orange Squeeze 1.3.1 on my Galaxy Nexus (Android
 4.2.1).
 
I have the same device.

 
 Very often (though not every time), when I tried to connect to
 mysqueezebox.com or my own LMS server, Orange Squeeze tries to connect,
 and then says Timeout waiting for server connection to complete.
 
This has been a problem in the past, but I haven't seen it lately. What
server version are you running? FWIW, I start and stop the app dozens of
times per day and don't see it. It doesn't improve your experience --
sorry. :-)

One thing about the Galaxy Nexus is that the Wifi performance/range is
horrible. I had to install a repeater so that I could use the device
reliably in my office, and my Macbook Pro has a very high signal.

It could be that Orange Squeeze is less tolerant of requests that go
unanswered or are lost than Squeeze Commander, or it could be a race
condition that simply doesn't expose itself in my testing. 

The more details I can get about your situation, the better. Enable
Verbose Logging in advanced preferences, and when you get a timeout
situation to occur, go back to preferences and hit submit logs. Fill
in your email address or some other identifier (can just be tbessie) so
that I can associate the requests to you.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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slimhase wrote: 
 Great! Thanks, db122.
 Now I will keep my piehole shut and wait.
 :-)

Please, keep your piehole filled with pie. Tis the season. Are you using
the preview builds? Any fix will make it's appearance there first.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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slimhase wrote: 
 Hi db122; any chance to work on this?
 I checked the 2 themes you provided, but the issue is present on both of
 them..
 

I'm working on a solution for this. Thanks for your patience!



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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Peter Galbavy wrote: 
 
 1. Download path customisation (I use a BASE/Artist/Album/ type tree)
 

Yeah, I understand where you're coming from and I knew someone would
mention it right away. Downloading tracks is a mostly secondary (even
tertiary) function of the app. There are many free id3 tagger/renamers
for Android that would do a better job than we ever could in organizing
your files. I would suggest that you download tracks to a folder of your
choice (that is customizable) and then use the taggers to get them
exactly how you want. Or, certainly keep using SqueezeCommander for
those purposes.

Most people will rely on apps like Google Play or other tag-based apps,
so the filenames themselves are irrelevant.

 
 2. Download single files
 

You can deselect the files you don't want to download -- I intended to
add a select all/deselect all from the cataloged list of downloads. You
can also select a single file and download it from music folder, can't
you?

 
 3. Ability to cancel some/all of the downloads directly from the app
 

Yes, just didn't make the cut for this release.

Thanks for the feedback!



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kidstypike wrote: 
 Must be broken, if I select a single track to download, I just see
 Download 0 track(s).

Sounds like it's broken to me.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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I know there are lots of programmers in the crowd, I think we can all
agree that this is pretty accurate. We truly are terrible, but only
because we're human. So, I apologize in advance when one of these comes
out of my [virtual] mouth. :-)

https://plus.google.com/102786751626732213960/posts/XTNGXUDAjmJ



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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Both in preview and non-preview forms, the 1.3.1 release is out.

This just fixes a few higher profile bugs, including one that was
keeping many fresh installs from working properly.

defects fixed

- Dreaded Connecting to Server hang at startup. Sorry!
- Visual cleanups.
- Can now download individual tracks.
- Several reported crashes.



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[slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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I'm pleased to announce the release of version 1.3.0 of Orange Squeeze,
our Android remote control for Logitech Media Server Squeezebox
devices.

Google Play:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.orangebikelabs.orangesqueeze

or

SlideME: http://slideme.org/application/orange-squeeze

or

AndroidPIT:
http://www.androidpit.com/en/android/market/apps/app/com.orangebikelabs.orangesqueeze/Orange-Squeeze

If you discover bugs or features that you would like to see, please file
them at http://www.orangebikelabs.com/trac/orangesqueeze.

The app is still only $2.99.

Also, big thanks to everyone who downloaded and tested the Orange
Squeeze Preview release. This open beta program was a huge help for us!



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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What's next? In all likelihood, a few bug fix releases. I hope not
emergency ones, but this is the first time a lot of people will be
using 1.3.0. We will try to keep the preview builds up-to-date at the
same time.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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Just a note that I'm moving discussion of 1.3.0 over to a new thread. I
hope there aren't any big surprises!



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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fphredd wrote: 
 So, I should go back to using the 'orginal' orange squeeze that I
 purchased instead of the beta version?

Great question -- you can do whatever you like. 

If you want to take a break from having both installed, feel free to do
so and stick with the non-preview release. For at least a few weeks, the
releases will be pretty much functionally identical. The preview release
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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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pippin wrote: 
 That's interesting. But my Nexus shows it as the #1 battery consumer
 after not using it for 24h or so.
 This is Android 4.2
 Actually I hadn't used it at all but set OrangeSqueeze to start it and I
 do use an OrangeSqueeze lock screen widget. That widget wasn't set to
 control SqueezePlayer, though, but my Squeezebox and OrangeSqueeze also
 isn't in the battery hog list anymore, at least not on the first page.
 
 Edit: another data point: I can see that SqueezePlayer stays permanently
 connected to my server.

It's possible that Orange Squeeze could be keeping it alive. Let me
check that out.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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maggior wrote: 
 Hi db122 -
 
 Just to give you a heads-up, I submitted a log captured when trying to
 play an album from Rhapsody.  Orange Squeeze will let me navigate my
 library and hit play.  On the screen it appears like it is starting to
 play, but nothing happens on the squeezebox.  No errors are reported by
 Orange Squeeze.
I sent you an email -- just to recap though, I got a Rhapsody trial and
everything worked ok for me, so... hrm. I guess I need a bit more
details from you when you have time. If anyone else has an experience to
share wrt to Rhapsody and Orange Squeeze, please chime in.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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pippin wrote: 
 
 You are aware that you can use MySqueezebox.com for remote scaling? They
 cache the result so as long as you are consistent with the size this
 will get you very, very good performance. With iPeng and all it's users
 my impression is that at least as long as I stick to the main
 services/apps I almost always get a cached result, or the server is
 really fast.
 

I was aware that this was possible, but have avoided adding a dependency
on mysb.com for this. It should probably be an option -- at least until
the service is killed off.



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pippin wrote: 
 Um. If MySB gets killed off most services won't work anymore anyway, I'm
 sure you will have to make more changes then. I don't know about your
 App but in iPeng this is like 5 lines of code or so.
It's really two separate issues, but yes I understand your perspective.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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db122 wrote: 
 It's possible that Orange Squeeze could be keeping it alive. Let me
 check that out.

I don't *think* that Orange Squeeze was keeping SqueezePlayer awake
here. I audited the code and ran some tests and SqueezePlayer keepalives
are sent when OrangeSqueeze is connected to the server. When the screen
goes off, this connection is severed and the keepalives stop.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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bluegaspode wrote: 
 Could you share a link to the back button discussion?
There are a lot, but here's the most recent.

http://goo.gl/77Jrh


 From a usability standpoint I'd say what happens when you press a button
 must be predictable for the user without studying Android user guides.
Which is why it's important that apps adhere to the established
guidelines, like using the back button properly and letting people back
out of apps without complications.
 
 Other Apps are not that easy. I include OrangeSqueeze here. There is
 also a second use case: when you are deep in the menus one presses the
 back button multiple times very fast to get to the top (because for new
 users that's the more common way than to know that one can tap on the
 top left button) so one can still close the App erroneous. 
Well, there's the icon in the top-left if you just want to back out to
the top. Or the navbar. Some apps activate the up-one-level affordance
in the home icon as well (OS doesn't, by design, because we have other
ways to go up a level using the navbar).

 So personally I'd vote for a 'do you really want to quit button' indeed.
 
Fair enough, but I really feel like it's an anachronism that gets in the
way for most apps. Games and other exceptions, are, well, the exception.
:-)

 
 By the way: even Google does it in its navigation App because it's not
 obvious if the back button leaves the App or gets you back to search
 there, so you always have an excuse if needed :-) 
 

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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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Jaca wrote: 
 I also like confirmation to 'exit' in SqueezeCommander regardless
 whether it is Android thing or not..
 After all I believe systems should work as users expect not how
 developers think is best.. it might be just me O_o,

For the record, I am both user #1 and developer #1  for Orange Squeeze.
The buck stops with me...

 
 Radio alarm driving me sometimes crazy (with it's backup alarm) I was
 wondering if it would be possible to use Orange Squeeze to turn on
 players on time basis. Since app sits in background all the time anyway
 I can imagine it's smth which could be done...
 

The built-in alarm functionality (conveniently hidden from within Orange
Squeeze) should work for you. It's part of my plan to get everyone to
buy each of the Android apps that control Squeezeboxes.

 Could it be also possible to let say sync players on time bassis?..  so
 if my bedroom and kitchen radios are unsync in the evening, both could
 be automatically synced in a morning before Orange Squeeze turn them
 on...

Truthfully, this behavior would be better handled on the server, but
that said, Orange Squeeze exposes a protected service on your phone that
you could use to script behavior like this. It would be a manual process
and you'd have to learn about the CLI interface and use an app like
Tasker to actually handle the automation. I need to put a page together
discussing the possibilities.  If you are interested, start a new thread
and we can discuss it there (PM me so I know where it is, I might miss
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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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pippin wrote: 
 Why would that be the alternative? I like the back button, I just hate
 that it takes me out of Apps all the times, there is zero reason for
 that since there _is_ already a button for that. It could still be a
 back button within the App.

If apps never worked together then you would have a 100% valid point,
but the truth is sometimes I have four apps in the stack and the back
button takes you back to the previous app, seamlessly. This is the power
of a very flexible, but yes, ultimately schizophrenic design.

 
 Yes, I know, activities... bad excuse, same thing as why Android Apps
 never rotate well, don't have nice transitions and why nobody seems to
 want to write real tablet Apps.
 
This is changing in a big way -- the platform has really stabilized a
lot (1 1/2 years with the same core SDK) and the tools and critical mass
are there to start writing beautiful tablet apps.


 Just for the life of me I will not understand why such a capable OS and
 such capable hardware has to have such a horrid overall experience, I'm
 deeply frustrated with it almost every time I try to use my Nexus but
 OrangeSqueeze is really standing out, it's a really good App, one of the
 few I've found so far now if there just was a real tablet version
 Don't want to do one? There _has_ to be a market, doesn't it? I mean,
 just everybody seems to have one of these small, cheap, Android tablets
 now.

It comes down to time -- there are bikes to ride, books to read, games
to play. Android apps will scale up to tablet better than an iOS app, so
there is less incentive. I don't spend all day browsing in Orange
Squeeze, I use it about 15 times a day, for about 20 seconds each time.
That said, I want to explore more now that 1.3 is stabilizing.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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pippin wrote: 
 Oh, one more thing I noticed about the preview: it drains a lot of
 battery while in the background on my Nexus 7, you might want to have a
 look at that.

Yes, I expect it does. The service that feeds the widgets preserves the
connection for a configurable amount of time. If you're not using
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pippin wrote: 
 Actually I hadn't even noticed there are widgets. The market version
 doesn't have them, right?
 But even if I use widgets, there should be some way to stop that
 behavior. It's draining my Nexus in a day or so while usually I charge
 it once a week, I don't think that amount of drain is acceptable, even
 when using a widget.
 
 Oh, and now that I know about them I will _of course_ use the widgets,
 widgets are one of the few things I love on Android and miss on iOS.

Added in 1.3.0 preview, and relatively simple.

The drain is due to preserving the network connection so that the widget
remains up to date. There's very little CPU usage associated with it,
but the device cannot go to sleep if we want real-time updates of album
artwork on your widget screen. There's room for improvement on this
though, as when the screen turns off we can accelerate the shutdown
process. Right now that's missing. Thanks for reminding me.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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ModelCitizen wrote: 
 Ah. I have been meaning to mention that my widget does not update. I
 have three users set up on my Nexus 7 and the Orange Squeeze widget on
 my own lock screen. Inevitably when I come to wake my device the widget
 has lost its connection and does not display the state of the
 appropriate player. It doesn't appear to get it back until I log back
 in.

Yes, thanks!



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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Jaca wrote: 
 Do you mean such alarm already does exists within OS?
The devices themselves have alarm capability, provided by the server
(Logitech Media Server, SqueezeCenter, whatever). You can access it from
the web interface or, depending on your player, from the player itself.


 
 That's deep waters for me.. well, I don't mind trying smth new but I had
 in mind smth within OS again.. Correct me if I'm wrong but the way I see
 it is:
 - You can send command to synchronize players form OS, right?
 - You can send command to play selected music, right?
 However both things need to be done manually by physically pressing
 buttons (touching screen I mean :) )  All whats needed is sort of
 simulation of 2 above plus timer which check time every 60s. Think of it
 as macro which would be executed when when timer equals specified
 time... 
 

Right, both of those commands could be done on a schedule through a
variety of techniques. The simplest would be to use the Command Line
Interface of the server (see above).  There are a lot of resources about
this, google Squeezebox CLI for lots of info. To use something like OS
is a bit more complicated than it really would need to be, but if you
are trying to do it all through just an Android device then it certainly
is an option. You'd still need to delve deep into the Squeezebox CLI
syntax, however. Check out the Tasker app (or various clones), which
lets you do all sorts of fancy things, scripted on an Android device.
You want to be able to send an Intent to an Android service with the
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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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pippin wrote: 
 Oh, one more thing I just noticed about the preview: it drains a lot of
 battery while in the background on my Nexus 7, you might want to have a
 look at that.

Had a look, I believe it should be *much* better now.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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Jaca wrote: 
 ohh looks like you give me no choice but try to get into it :) lol ..
 damn can't believe how lazy I'm ;)

If you're looking at rewiring an alarm using your android device,
squeezeboxes and some scripting apps, I think that nobody would call you
*lazy*.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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Just updated the preview build. We're getting very close. Was hoping to
get the final release out before December, since that month doesn't
exist for Android 4.2 users, but that's looking less likely.

enhancements

- Experimental (truly, we have no hardware to test this on) support
  for device media buttons like play/pause/next track/etc. Let us know.
- Addition of service API key on the about screen. This random key is
  used to protect calls to the public service on your device from
  malicious apps.
  

defects fixed

- Connection will now be dropped automatically when the screen turns
  off. This should dramatically reduce power consumption when devices
  are in standby.
- Widget will now normally update itself properly when coming out of
  extended power-off cycle.
- Global search screen was incomplete. Headers are now properly
  displayed, should make for a less confusing display.
- Some fixes to soft keyboard handling in the search screen.
- Various fixes for Android 2.2 and 2.3 devices.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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bwaldron wrote: 
 I've encountered an issue with the download to device function. I
 tried to download an album with a : (colon) in the album title. The
 artist folder was created, but not the album folder within (nor any of
 the tracks). No error message of any sort, just a silent fail.

Worked fine for me on my system storage -- are you downloading to a
FAT32-formatted SD card? I'm guessing so we'll sanitize the
filenames a bit more under the assumption that the destination filename
was invalid on the mounted FS. Thanks!



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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 One thing: do you always read the full artwork? You are aware that the
 server can resize it for you? The thumbnails don't render very well on
 my Nexus 7 right now.

For thumbnails, we use URL's like this whenever possible:

http://192.168.0.2:9000/music/6df5a901/cover_128xX_p.jpg

In my experience, this doesn't actually return .jpg, but either .jpg,
.png, whatever, depending on what format you've got on the server. Once
saved locally we render them unscaled.

Is it album artwork, radio artwork, or what? For some artwork (like
remote thumbnails from MOG), we load the thumbnails from the remote
server (a non-Logitech server) and scale locally. Because some of the
images are *huge* coming inbound from the network, we resample first at
~double the desired resolution to avoid overflowing the device heap
(pretty easy to do), then scale the resulting image to our exact
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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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pippin wrote: 
 OK, finally need to give a bit of feedback on OrangeSqueeze as well
 since I've been using the preview a bit, too, recently.

Pippin, thanks for the feedback. I'll definitely take it to heart. I did
take a stab at a couple of the polish-related issues you raised, so
check out the next preview (or final release, as it may be).

As to your issues with the Android back button -- well, you're not
alone, but in my opinion, the alternative (the lack of a back button) is
far worse. Granted, you can get into some situations where the backstack
gets out of control (facebook app is crazy sometimes), but I think
Orange Squeeze walks a line once you get used to it. In general the icon
in the upper right takes you to the browse screen no matter where you
are, and resets the backstack at the same time. Most other things
preserve the backstack.

It's interesting that the issue of confirming with a user whether or not
to quit the app is raised. First, on Android there is no quitting
the app. Relaunching it brings you right back where you left off most of
the time automatically, but this issue just came up on the Android
developers group just in the last couple days, and a rookie developer
was shunned out of the room for asking how to implement a confirmation
like that. It's simply considered bad form on Android. There is a lot of
discussion about this on why and how and whatever, plenty of data to
find if you're interested. Without question, however, Orange Squeeze is
intended to be an Android app for Android users.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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... someone is using the most current Orange Squeeze preview (from last
night), has a Samsung GT-I9000 (International Galaxy S, I believe)
running Android 4.1.2. 

You've had a bunch of crash submissions when the app launches, I
believe. The error is actually an I/O error, indicating you might have
some fault flash memory or corruption on your OS partition. 

So, if you are by chance this user, you might contact me and we could
try to solve the problem by wiping the app data or reinstalling the app,
but you may have a bigger problem. I just don't want you to attribute
the error exclusively to Orange Squeeze, although I suspect that you
might be having problems with a bunch of apps.

Here is an example stack trace, although each one is an error in a
different place.

android.database.sqlite.SQLiteDiskIOException: disk I/O error (code
778)
at
android.database.sqlite.SQLiteConnection.nativeExecuteForChangedRowCount(Native
Method)
at
android.database.sqlite.SQLiteConnection.executeForChangedRowCount(SQLiteConnection.java:727)
at
android.database.sqlite.SQLiteSession.executeForChangedRowCount(SQLiteSession.java:754)
at
android.database.sqlite.SQLiteStatement.executeUpdateDelete(SQLiteStatement.java:64)
at
android.database.sqlite.SQLiteDatabase.updateWithOnConflict(SQLiteDatabase.java:1565)
at
android.database.sqlite.SQLiteDatabase.update(SQLiteDatabase.java:1514)
at
com.orangebikelabs.orangesqueeze.database.MetadataContentProvider.update(MetadataContentProvider.java:151)
at
android.content.ContentProvider$Transport.update(ContentProvider.java:235)
at
android.content.ContentResolver.update(ContentResolver.java:990)
at
com.orangebikelabs.orangesqueeze.app.PlayerMenuHelper.storePlayerMenus(PlayerMenuHelper.java:100)
at
com.orangebikelabs.orangesqueeze.app.UpdatePlayerMenuRequest.finalizeRequest(UpdatePlayerMenuRequest.java:47)
at
com.orangebikelabs.orangesqueeze.common.LoopingRequest$1.call(LoopingRequest.java:183)
at
com.orangebikelabs.orangesqueeze.common.LoopingRequest$1.call(LoopingRequest.java:170)
at
java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:305)
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:137)
at
com.google.common.util.concurrent.MoreExecutors$SameThreadExecutorService.execute(MoreExecutors.java:260)
at
com.google.common.util.concurrent.AbstractListeningExecutorService.submit(AbstractListeningExecutorService.java:55)
at
com.google.common.util.concurrent.AbstractListeningExecutorService.submit(AbstractListeningExecutorService.java:40)
at
com.orangebikelabs.orangesqueeze.common.LoopingRequest.submit(LoopingRequest.java:156)
at
com.orangebikelabs.orangesqueeze.app.MasterContextImpl$5.doRun(MasterContextImpl.java:510)
at
com.orangebikelabs.orangesqueeze.common.DisconnectAwareRunnable.run(DisconnectAwareRunnable.java:14)
at
java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:442)
at
java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:305)
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:137)
at
java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1076)
at
java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:569)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:856)



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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slimhase wrote: 
 Hi;
 when I used Orange Squeeze, I had the problem that in the pop-up
 windows, no text was visible.
 (When I tapped on the area of the non-visible Text, the related funktion
 was activated. So it is really only the text that is missing...)
 
 What do I mean by pop-up w?
 For example in the Player menue: When I tab on the little triangle on
 the right side for one of the players, a context menue pops up (the pop
 up window).
 That window has a head line listing the player ('On: xyz-Playername')
 and underneath there are lines, subdividing tasks - but no text is
 visible for me. But when I tab the 1st, the synchronize options appear
 (with all text visible).
 On the last line, a faint small 'zzz' is visible - no further text,
 leading to the snooze option
 
 Am I really the only one having this issue??
 Note: I am running OZ on an e-ink (bw) device - a rooted BarnesNoble
 Nook Touch running Android 2.1.
 
 Is there a way to fix this?
 

You probably are one of the very few running the app on a black and
white device.  Surely there is a way to fix it, but it may be a bit of
guessing how to work around the issue because I have no way to test how
the colors and device default themes interact.  I suspect the root
problem is actually in the default device theme used -- the default text
color used in the action menu is the same (or nearly the same -- with a
black and white device there aren't too many options) as the default
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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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castalla wrote: 
 A bit late to the party, but  could we have a Servers tab alongside
 the Search - Browse - Players items?  The l dropdown is really fiddly to
 use and often I miss the correct item!
What server dropdown? There is an action bar menu that exposes a switch
server screen, and there is an option to move players between servers
too, also from a popup on the players screen. I'm not sure I understand
what you're asking.

But you're right that it's too late for 1.3.0 anyway.  This release
won't have any UI changes, it's strictly refinements to the established
UI. The target release date was November (of 2012), and I intend to hold
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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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castalla wrote: 
 It's that action bar thing - the small I at the top right which appears
 on some menus - it's so fiddly to use.  I often get Search instead of
 switch servers!   On the main Browse screen there are tabs at the top to
 switch players, search, etc.  I just thought a Servers tab would be
 easier to use than the I menu.

It would seem you might have problems with a lot of more modern Android
apps, because that three-dot thing and the resulting menu is a standard
Android construct, not a fabrication in Orange Squeeze.

Keep your eye on the preview builds once 1.3.1 or 1.3.2 are out I
hope to experiment with some more radical changes then (not that your
suggestion is particularly radical).



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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Jaca wrote: 
 
 How do I switch/change player to different server/ library?
 
 I can change servers but can't find how to move client/player from one
 server to another.. I'm sure i'm missing smth obvious somewhere O_o...

You probably aren't missing anything obvious. Some of this was added in
the 1.3.0 preview, which you can install for free from Google Play. 
Well, at least as long as you are moving between
squeezenetwork/mysqueezebox.com and your local server. If you are moving
between different local servers (why?) then the app doesn't do that.
Explain why you're doing this on a regular basis, and I might consider
spending time on implementing that (priorities, right?) but I think most
people alternate between SN and their local server exclusively.

Google Play link: http://goo.gl/Is7N0



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Re: [slim] Andriod apps for controlling Logitech devices. (question)

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Hey, just chiming in on this thread. 

I'm the Orange Squeeze author and for the record, trying out Orange
Squeeze on Android is completely without risk. Even outside of the
mandatory return period of Google Play, I'm happy to offer a full refund
if you feel like the app doesn't do what you wanted it to do or if you
simply don't like it. The last thing app authors want is unsatisfied
customers.

We're coming up on the one year anniversary of the release of Orange
Squeeze, and it's certainly come a long ways since that initial release.
Thank you to all of the users who have helped take the app to the next
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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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So, I have to edit my own reply. I was a bit mistaken, and some things
do work better in Orange Squeeze Preview than I had remembered. Heck, if
I can't keep it straight :-)

If you are on a server, you can pull visible players (servers on the
same subnet communicate this) to your current server. The players show
up at the bottom as Players on other servers. You can only push a
player to mysqueezebox.com, however.

So, in short, to move a player to another server, connect to that server
and pull it over. Two-step process, but reasonable I think?



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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pippin wrote: 
 Won't work for one of the two use cases for different servers I can
 think up: it will only work if both servers are of the same version,
 otherwise, the other server's players won't be shown.
I just pulled players from 7.5.5 to my 7.7.2 server.  Can't pull them
back to 7.5.5 though. Go figure.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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BigJens wrote: 
 I just have a quick question: So far great App, much better than the
 Logtech App ;-)  Only thing I'm missing at the moment is crossfading of
 the songs. Where is it? Any help here?

Sorry, Orange Squeeze itself doesn't expose all of the player audio
settings that you might want to set. For now, you can use the web
interface or official app -- not ideal, admittedly.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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castalla wrote: 
 The latest version seems to have given up working on my setup - sits
 there just attempting to connect to last server used.
 
 Original version connects without any problems.

If you are using Android 4.1 or higher, can you enable verbose logging
in advanced preferences and then use the available button to send logs
to us?

If you are using Android 4.0 or earlier, enable verbose logging and use
an app like CatLog to do the same thing.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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castalla wrote: 
 Catlog looks way too complicated for me!  Sorry.
 
 It's working again at the moment.  I'll monitor it over the weekend, and
 if it fails again then I'll try catlog.
 
 Where do I send the log?

supp...@orangebikelabs.com. CatLog is pretty simple -- just launch it
and then choose the option to email the log. It's totally up to you --
you can do nothing at all and I'm sure someone else will have a similar
problem, or I will uncover it myself.



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castalla wrote: 
 Should I send the log even if OSq works?

No, I likely will need to see the logs when it fails only.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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castalla wrote: 
 I'd like to see the icons BUT I can't - since updating the preview it
 has stopped working almost totally.  It won't connect to my server, nor
 mysqueezebox.com.  More often it just seems to lock up.
 
 I uninstalled, reinstalled but same issues 
 
 Original Orange still works.

I would like to get some details about your setup (device, os rev,
server rev), just so I have somewhere to start. When you have time, post
here, PM me or contact me via email at supp...@orangebikelabs.com.
Thanks!



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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banned for life wrote: 
 Issue confusion ? Different versions ?

Maybe should. Seems like most products have a single thread though. Also
seems like almost all of the discussion is about the preview release now
-- I think it's safe to say most of the people on this board are at
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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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bwaldron wrote: 
  Ability to download tracks from many browse hierarchies to your
 device (Android 2.3/Gingerbread devices and higher). 
 
 Big thanks for this! It was the last reason I kept Squeeze Commander
 around.
 
 Would it be possible to allow the user to configure the download root
 path? I prefer to save music to my actual SD card, which is actually
 /mnt/sdcard-ext on my phone (/mnt/sdcard being a chunk of internal
 memory treated as a virtual SD card).

Yes, you can expect several improvements in this regard. Wanted to get
the preview out before the long weekend so the UI to select the target
folder just didn't make it in.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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sbp wrote: 
 Hi  just tried the new version, still the same problem, that Orange does
 not restart wifi, if the smartphone was been idle for some time.
 
 It is a Samsung galaxy I9100 with Android 4.0.4. what happens is that
 the wifi symbol disapears from top ribbon on the Android - you know the
 place where you can se the battery status, 3g status etc. However, when
 I pull down the screen from the top, the wifi icon is still green.
 
 If I press the icon (top stop the wifi) and press again to enable it -
 the wifi icon re-appear next to the battery indicator and Orange can
 find the wifi.
 
 So it seems like Samsung put the wifi into sleep, when left unused for a
 long time, and Orange is not able to re-enable the wifi.
 
 Hope this is understandable.

Yep, sorry I hadn't had time to look at this for this preview release.
I'll take a look at everything relating to this next week.

I will say that if the wifi icon is not 100% enabled (i.e. not in the
top bar) then there may be a bug in the phone operating system rather
than Orange Squeeze. It would be interesting to see the logs when this
occurs, so with new new preview release, enable verbose logging and then
when you run into the problem, use an app like CatLog to send the
results to me.

Incidentally, when this happens, if you open up a web browser *without
restarting the Wifi*, are you able to browse properly?



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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maggior wrote: 
 Got the latest preview last night.  I like the new icons for the
 controls - they look very professional now.

Thanks, and great! I will let my designer know this



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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castalla wrote: 
 I'd like to see the icons BUT I can't - since updating the preview it
 has stopped working almost totally.  It won't connect to my server, nor
 mysqueezebox.com.  More often it just seems to lock up.
 
 I uninstalled, reinstalled but same issues 
 
 Original Orange still works.

Hmm, obviously I don't see them here -- I wouldn't release it otherwise.
Unfortunately, it's a holiday weekend here and I won't be able to help
much, so here is a link to the old version from 3 November:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/56947838/OrangeSqueeze-preview-1.3.0-20121103-0819.apk

You can use it in the meantime. Sorry about that!



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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sbp wrote: 
 Yes, I just tried version 1.2.9 and I have the same problem.

OK, thanks. I will take a look at this.



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Re: [slim] Android 4.2: any controllers work on it?

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kidstypike wrote: 
 just to be clear 1.2.9 is working fine.
 On Preview, as soon as I start SqueezePlayer, the other players
 disappear from the list of players.
This problem is fixed in the preview build just released. Thanks!



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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Released a new preview build, lots of stuff:

-  Ability to download tracks from many browse hierarchies to your
  device (Android 2.3/Gingerbread devices and higher). Supports
  downloading by folder, artist, album, year (including most custom
  browse variations).
-  Visual styling updates
-  Android 4.2/Jellybean and higher devices can now add a widget to
  the lock screen.
-  Everyone gets a new larger widget, in addition to the existing
  small one
-  Android 4.1/Jellybean and higher devices can now submit log data
  directly from Advanced Preferences.
  

Defects fixed:

-  Missing ability to pin items to home (top-level) menu.
-  Now Playing screen artist is now the track artist, which brings
  it in sync with the web interface and other Jive-based clients (Trac
  issue #69).
-  last.fm did not properly show thumbs up/thumbs down
-  Previous track button was not going to beginning of track on
  initial press
-  When connecting to a server that has just been woken up, send
  subsequent pings sooner to speed up connection process.
-  Preference to disable automatic crash reporting was not working.
-  When a local SqueezePlayer was running, some or all other players
  would be hidden in the player list.
-  Icons missing for Random Play context menu items
-  Widgets did not correctly display thumbs up/down when appropriate.
-  Lots of other widget bug fixes and cleanups



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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sbp wrote: 
 
 BUT I have one problem, if my android has gone sleeping while I'm using
 Orange to control my Duet (I don't use my android as a player) then it
 often can't start the Wifi up. I continues showing the round circle. I
 need to turn off wifi and the turn it on again before Orange can use the
 wifi.

Thanks for the report!

Do you happen to recall if you noticed this problem in 1.2.9 as well, or
if it was introduced in the preview releases?



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Re: [slim] Android 4.2: any controllers work on it?

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ModelCitizen wrote: 
 
 Orange Squeeze has got better now but the preview version will not list
 one of my players and the bottom of the widget is chopped off.
 
The widget problem is a known issue -- half-finished feature. But I'm
not sure what's going on with it not listing your players. Care to turn
on verbose logging and get log reports to me at
supp...@orangebikelabs.com? PM me or contact me directly if you run into
issues with those.

I've got an updated preview coming out very soon, so I'd love to fix the
issue you mention.

FWIW, I'm testing on 4.2 now and not seeing any 4.2-specific problems.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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Just a note letting everyone know that an updated preview release will
be out very soon. I know it's been a few weeks, and you will have a few
niceties as a result...!



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Re: [slim] Android 4.2: any controllers work on it?

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kidstypike wrote: 
 Yes, I'm seeing the same, if SqueezePlayer is started, then that's the
 only player listed.

Hmm, interesting. I can't duplicate this, but there have been a lot of
changes since the builds you are running.

Anyone who sees this problem, please PM or email if you have the time
and inclination to install a one-off build to test and see if the
problem still exists in the development tree.

Thanks!



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Re: [slim] Android 4.2: any controllers work on it?

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ModelCitizen wrote: 
 Have turned on verbose logging but can't find the send logs function.
 
 Preview version: When I touch the 'players' menu item only the Nexus
 (this device) is listed. I can only get the other players to list by
 selecting 'stop service' for the Nexus.
 
 The current version lists all 5 of my players when I select the
 'players' menu.
 

The next preview build will have a send logs option on Android 4.1+.
Devices with earlier versions of Android can use the app CatLog. 

For now, your best bet would be to try the magic incantation of holding
down your device power button + volume up + volume down, which generates
a system report and allows you to send it via email or save to Google
Drive, etc. It is *not* easy to do, in my experience, but I eventually
got it after a few minutes.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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slimhase wrote: 
 Hi;
 Also, I did not see buttons to like / unlike tracks i.e. in Last FM?
 

The next preview release should fix the like/unlike buttons missing on
last.fm. To fix it, I subscribed for the first time in years and I'm
glad I did...



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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Nonreality wrote: 
 So far I really like this program.  I am having a problem if I pause or
 do something with the remote that comes with the touch I then lose use
 of the Orange remote and have to reboot my phone.  I don't know if this
 is normal but it can be frustrating.  Tonight I paused Pandora and
 restarted it with the remote and Orange could never start again. It just
 showed the screen when I had paused it and would do nothing.  Other than
 that it's been a nice program.

Are you using the preview build (1.3.0-numbers) or the release version
(1.2.9)? At this point, I would characterize the preview version as more
stable than the release version -- one of the reasons I'll be pushing to
iron out any remaining polish issues over the next week or so and get it
released officially.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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slimhase wrote: 
 Hi;
 from the look  feel, I like this app better than squeezecommander -
 which was so far the best remote app around imo. 
 It's less cluttered and more intuitive.
 However: As long as it does not have a sleep button  (sleep after end of
 song / after 5, ... 45, 60,  minutes), it's not going to be my
 remote app for my SBes
 Also, I did not see buttons to like / unlike tracks i.e. in Last FM?
 - I returned the app for now and will re-purcase when sleep function is
 available. 
 Until then, Squeezecommander stays my fav. SB remote...
 

No one app will meet everyone's needs, but thanks for trying it out
though!

Ben



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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Mick Seymour wrote: 
 Because until you start to swipe it doesn't know you want to scroll.
 It's the same on my 3 year old MP3 player and the 'other' Squeeze
 controller. Like it or loathe it, that's the way it works
Yep. To add to this description: It's a standard Android UI feature, not
something specific to Orange Squeeze or any other app. The developer
just sets a flag saying fastscroll enabled and the OS provides the
handle and the flyover hints for the section you are in. It comes so
naturally to me, as a long-time Android user, that I don't even think
about it when I use it. I'm sure if you are used to other mobile
platforms that there are quite a few anachronisms that take some getting
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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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Wirrunna wrote: 
 I just downloaded the preview to my Nexus 7 and on the opening blurb it
 says that an enhancement of Sleep timer capability for players has
 been added on 2012-11-02 .
Hmm, yes, but no button on now playing like he wanted -- still not
exactly what I'd like it to be, but hey, it's a start!



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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Craig wrote: 
 Hiya,
 
 If I go  into my music, I don't get the little white triangles that let
 me pin to the home screen anymore.
 
 This is on a Galaxy SIII with jelly bean.
 

Thanks, I'll check this out tomorrow!



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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maggior wrote: 
 I've been using the preview version exclusively since it's been made
 available.  Overall, I've found it stable and improved.  A couple of
 things I've noticed:
 1) I can't use rhapsody.  I can search and navigate my rhapsody library,
 but when I select something to play, it doesn't do anything.
 2) The problem with tapping the artist on the now playing screen and
 seeing nothing found is back.  This works in the regular version.
 
 Also, do you have plans to add the ability to set the sleep time for a
 player?  I miss this since I use this functionality all of the time when
 my kids go to bed.  I think it could be added to the pop up menu for the
 player where you can change the player name, change synchronization,
 etc.
 

Not sure about #1, as I don't have Rhapsody. But I am sure we can get it
fixed, but it might be easiest to have you contact me directly at
supp...@orangebikelabs.com and I will figure out a way for you to get me
the logging information I need. If you are running a pre-Jellybean
device then you can enable verbose logging in the diagnostics, and use
an app like CatLog to send me log files after you browse to your
Rhapsody items and try to play them.

#2, fixed, again (and again), at least for the 7.5.5 server I'm running
locally for testing.

Re: sleep.. yes, indeed, I appreciate your desires. Point taken.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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ModelCitizen wrote: 
 
 I had to manually update the preview from the Play store, even though
 i'd set the app to Automatically Update (maybe I'm just to impatient).
 

Definitely the latter. Google will roll the update out automatically
over several days. If you want it immediately you do have to manually
update.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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ModelCitizen wrote: 
 No information is shown in the comment tag (might be due to there being
 a lot of text in my comments).

This should be fixed in the preview release I just pushed out. Could
take a few hours before it is available. Thanks!



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

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fphredd wrote: 
 In Preferences - Advanced (in new Preview version) I checked 'Disable
 Artist Artwork' but when I go to sort by artist I get the big musical
 note icon next to each artist. Old version I was able to show nothing
 here..

Should be fixed in the next preview! Thanks.



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