Re: [DX-CHAT] ROMEO
Well it's an interesting story, and an interesting example of the old proverbthat "what goes around comes around". If Romeo does some "porridge" as we say here in the UK, then perhaps we could send him his log books and a pile of QSL cards so he can catch up on his "backlog" ?? He certainly owes me one or two. Dave G0OIL Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2005, Ron Notarius wrote: Yes, thanks for the update. I was curious as to what happened to him. Sad, but he made his own choices and has to live with the results (as do we all) 73, ron wn3vaw MAL was not the originator of the story. It came from my buddy Sean KX9X. He told me first and then posted it to a couple other discussion groups. I am going to forward it here shortly for all to "enjoy" (?!) :-)Zack W9SZSubscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chatTo post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.orgThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] How does a DXpedition to Somalia get approved by ARRL?
Well that's an interesting question. About 5 years agoG3VMW and myselfbroached the idea of going to activate T5. I called the ARRL DXCC desk to ask then directly what evidence of permission we'd need. The conversation was a bit comical and went rather like this:G0OIL: "Who needs to provide documents?" ARRL: "Oh, the government" G0OIL: "there's no government" ARRL: Oh, well the PTT G0OIL: "There's no PTT, no postal service, no telephones" ARRL: "Oh, well who are you working for?" G0OIL: "No-one. It's a DXpedition" ARRL: "Ah, well ..er.. someone in authority" G0OIL: "No-one's in authority, there are a few regional warlords who might look after us" ARRL: "Oh, well I don't know" G0OIL: "Will one of the warlords do?" ARRL: Er...I don't know" G0OIL: "Well who? You tell me whose signature to get on what piece of paper and I'll get it" ARRL: "Oh, well I don't know. You get a signature and run it past us" G0OIL: "What, we go to Somalia, without knowing how to get an operation approved on the off chance that you might be happy with the documentation?" ARRL: "Erwell...erm."Well needless to say, we didn't bother. I got the impression that if I'd called them saying my callsign was OH2BH they'd have bent over backwards to help, but because they didn't know me they played just like a dumb government agency. I talked to the Somali Peoples' Information Centre in London who told me the extent of the chaos and lawlessness in that country. It was a tragic story. They were so keen to help us if we could help them to set up some shortwave communications and with a bit of help from the ARRL by way of guidance about approval we could maybe have brought a bit of focus and a bit of help for the people in T5. How do you try to get in touch with family in a civil war zone when there are no phones, no mail and you have no radios nor money to buy them?To be fair to the ARRL, I think thestate of affairshas changed a bit now. I think the current situation is that the north of the country has a semblance of government, Sharia law, peace and stability. Mogadishu and the south of the country are apparently like the Wild West, or in this case the Wild East. I believe that when DJ6SI do went over there a couple of years ago (T5X???) they were in the north, and it's the north (Somaliland??) that now issues 6O calls.So, to answer your question you'd better call the ARRL. N7NG seems a lot more helpful than the previous guy so maybe he can shed some light on the issue.Dave G0OILJim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was reading an article today and this line caught my eye:"Somalia has had no effective government since 1991, when warlords ousted a dictatorship and then turned on each other, carving the nation of 8.2 million into a patchwork of fiefdoms."(from http://www.boston.com/news/odd/articles/2006/01/22/us_navy_seizes_pirate_ship_off_somalia/ )So how does the ARRL determine whether a license was issued by the proper authority?73 - Jim AD1C-- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.usSubscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chatTo post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.orgThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX-NEWS] Xpedition Recommendations
To address N7MAL's points:(1): unenforceable(2): ARRL disallow credit for dxpeditions? What complete and utter claptrap. Go and have a word with yourself.Policing the idiots: Well I agree with you here, we seem to do little to try and catch these people. There was talk by G3SXW recently of setting up observation networks to try and DF the signals but that seems a tall order to me. The number of idiots in Europe seems to increase daily, and it's not just dxpeditions that get QRMed, it's any DX station. Most of the QRM signals seem to emanate from Eastern and Southern Europe. Most of the idiots do get bored and go away though. The first couple of days of the 3Y0X expedition there were a plethora of idiots, more on CW than on SSB. In short, I don't know how we cure that problem.Critique of operating schedule: well I take your point, but they were audible here well after sunrise. Power line noise prevents me hearing much on 80 and 160, but on 40 they were easily workable until 3-4 hours after sunrise, as is often that case at this part of the sunspot cycle. I think I worked them at about 0830 one morning on 40. You'll get a lot of comments from Europe saying they were working yet more Yanks or JAs when signals were peaking here,so I guess you can't please everyone.I think these guys did a great job: all that planning, expense and risk, 80k plus QSOs etc. The expedition was well worth the wait and thanks for #333.One question though. What happened to all the penguins? Do you have to pay extra for penguins? :-)Dave G0OILN7MAL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to make the following 2 xpedition recommendations: Number One: All National and International Amateur Radio Regulatory authorities immediately ban the use of the words UP LID during any Amateur Radio transmissions. Those 2 words need to be given the classification of the ultimate in profanity. Number Two: The ARRL immediately no longer should consider any xpeditions for DXCC or any other credit. I have been at this for roughly 50 years and this 3YØX xpedition has topped them all for BØZØ and MØRØN activities. It gets worse and worse with every xpedition. It is no longer a handful of guys trying to disrupt, it is a dozen(or more) per band. I've heard comments, and combinations of profane comments, I don't remember hearing even when I was in the Army. The guys who are doing this are not in a vacuum, we are not doing any policing, but instead good/nice guys are being 'sucked' into the fray.This xpedition also helped amplify some of the problems. Yes they did a 'bang-up' job, and yes they did it under horrible, grueling, conditions. But, they also added to the 'on-the-air' problems by wasting hours upon hourson 160, 80, 40 trying to work Europe after 0700Z when all of Europe is in bright sunlight. My special all-time favorite is the expedition trying to work CW during the ARRL CW contest. 73 c.c. N1DG 3YØX PilotMAL N7MALBULLHEAD CITY, AZhttp://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htmhttp://geocities.com/n7mal/Don't worry about the world coming to an end today.It's already tomorrow in Australia
Re: [DX-CHAT] Create
A couple of years ago I had an RC5B3 rotor damaged when a tower came down, I just did a "google" and emailed Create in Japan. I managed to get through to one of the engineers rather than the sales line and they gave me the parts for FREE if I wired them the money for shipping. They were INCREDIBLY helpful.Here in the UK we have to deal with all the useless bureaucracy of the EU who insist that everything is "CE" marked (thanks, EU, you're really adding value.. Not) so I don't think that Create are on sale here any more. However Ron GW3YDX (Vine Antennas www.vinecom.co.uk) is a knowledgeable chap and he'll most likely know where to source spares.Hope this helps. Regards. Dave G0OIL"Charlie, W0YG" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KV0Q is looking for the address of the Create rotor company in Japan. He has three RC5B rotors that have been hammered and need repairing. Can someone help with the address to send these back for service. There doesn't seem to be any place in this country that handles this and perhaps the company is out of business. Nobody seems to be advertising these rotors or the beams they manufactured.Please reply to kv0q at aol.com and he will take from there. THANKS!73,Charlie, W0YG.. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chatTo post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.orgThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS
I've had *NO* problems QSLing with Frank, though the mail to most African countriesis rather unreliable these days. If a QSL goes missing, send another, though disguise it a bit better. You can afford another green stamp.To W2UP: I think that it's unreasonable ofyou to publicly flame one man as the problem. PerhapsFrank wants to carry out his own QSLing, as perhaps that's a part of the hobby that he wants to enjoy.I think you should be more thoughtful before opening your big mouth tocriticisesomeone you probably don't knowand spend less time dictating how other people should live their lives.Regards Dave G0OILBarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Frank is the problem. Frank is the problem because he knows (or claims) that mail is unreliable in his country. Frank should engage the services of a QSL manager in a country with reliable mail service. There are always plenty of volunteers. Guys like him have no excuse.My advice is work someone else. V5 isn't that rare.73,Barry[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank isn't the problem. When he gets the request, he takes care of it in short order.The mail getting to from Frank is the problem.I got my card from him in relatively short order, but if I remember correctly, I used an envelope from my previous employer, so it looked like an official letter from an engineering company, not a personal letter from a ham. Worth a try...73 From: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu Apr 13 10:59:00 CDT 2006 To: Art RX9TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: DX-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS I never tried to get a card from Frank becaue I already have that one confirmed many times. There have been several contest operations from there, one even by some of our local Society of Midwest Contesters gang. I'll bet there are more in the future. I know the W9's who went there are good QSL'ers. Keep your eyes open for other operations from there.73, Zack W9SZOn Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Art RX9TX wrote: Hello DX-chat, Gents, what one should do to get a card from V51AS? Looks like thisguy believes 2 USD is not enough for him, so my second directrequest is unanswered. Nayone had luck with him lately?Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chatTo post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.orgThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.orgSubscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chatTo post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.orgThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org-- Barry Kutner, W2UP Newtown, PA
Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS
Excellent advice!DaveZack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my favorite methods is to put my QSL inside the return envelope inside my envelope to overseas. My SAE's are smaller and just fit inside the larger #10 envelopes.Then I cut a piece of carbon paper just barely smaller than the inside of the #10 envelope (the larger one) and put it inside so the carbon is facing away from my smaller envelope (so it doesn't get smudged).This prevents people from "candling" the envelopes to see inside. You just can't see through the carbon paper.This has worked well for me. Of course, I never put ham callsigns on the outside of the envelope and I have the post office put on a printed (metered) postage sticker instead of a stamp when I can.73, Zack W9SZSubscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chatTo post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.orgThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] vu2rbi
Well done in all your magnificent efforts, Bharathi!YES I'll be VERY interested in VU7 (and so will many others), sogood luck with your project.RegardsDave G0OILbharathi prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Dear dx friends, I hope u all are happy for vu4 activity. so many stations are active from andaman . they are active till 25th of april. I am sure lot of stations had a contact with vu4 in all bandsand all modes. my qsl information is vu4an/vu2rbi is direct. address is available in qrz.com. so look forward to see u all again all from India.mainland. any qurries regarding vu4 pse contact me. let me know how many are interested to know for vu7. it wont be now. but near future. best regards bharathi prasad vu2rbi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
[DX-CHAT] Okino-Torishima news - from The Times
Hi all, interesting article in today's copy of The Times (London): http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,25689-2150464,00.htmlRegards Dave G0OIL DIY coral is secret of economic growthFrom Richard Lloyd Parry in Tokyo WARS have been fought over them, fortunes in oil, gas and fishing rights depend on them and they are the focus of territorial squabbles throughout the world. Now Japan has come up with an original solution to disputes over islands. Instead of arguing over who owns what, it is simply going to grow its own. Scientists are to implant coral seeds on an isolated reef 1,000 miles (1,740km) south of Tokyo in an effort to establish it as an official island, rather than just an ocean atoll. If they succeed they will secure the economic rights to 162,000sq miles (420,000sq km) of ocean that occupy a crucial strategic position and are rich in fishing. The territory, known as Okino-Torishima, has been claimed by Japan since 1931 and represents the southernmost point of metropolitan Tokyo. It consists of a pear-shaped coral reef three miles long and a mile wide which is almost completely covered at high tide. As an island it would bring with it rights to an Exclusive Economic Zone in a 200-mile radius, an area bigger than the landmass of Japan. But two years ago Chinese ships appeared in the area and said that Okino-Torishima was simply a rock and brought with it no rights. According to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, only naturally occurring islands carry economic exploitation rights. Warming seas and nibbling fish are eroding the remaining reef faster than ever. So Japanese scientists will begin by harvesting about 300,000 eggs of three varieties of coral from Okino-Torishima next month. They will be reared in warm, less turbulent seas off the southwestern island of Okinawa. Next summer the coral fronds, by then 3cm (1.2in) long, will be planted back on to the reef in Okino-Torishima. It is hard to say that growing coral will directly result in our holding on to our territory, Toru Noda, of the Ministry for Land, Infrastructure and Transport, said. But it should help to preserve the island. The Tokyo Government has already installed a large sign bearing the official address of the island. Last year Shintaro Ishihara, the nationalist Governor of the city, was photographed kissing its dwindling earth. The problem is Article 121 of Part VIII of the UN Convention: Rocks which cannot sustain human habitation or economic life of their own shall have no exclusive economic zone or continental shelf. Even Mr Ishihara would balk at living on Okino-Torishima, although there is talk of setting up an electricity plant to establish economic life. Japan has disputes over islands with each of its near neighbours. To the north it claims the Kurile Islands, seized by the Soviet Union after Japans surrender in 1945. To the west Japan and South Korea claim tiny islands known as Tokto and Takeshima. The most serious disputes are with China, especially over five islets controlled by Japan as the Senkaku islands, but claimed by China and Taiwan as Diaoyutai. Their ownership is crucial to a dispute over rights to natural gas resources beneath the East China Sea
Re: [DX-CHAT] St. Helena Island ZD7
Royal Mail (for all their other faults) are usually pretty good at this kind of thing. Since St Helena is so small, I'd have thought that if it got to the post office there, then it would have been delivered. Hell, I've received cardsvia Royal Mailaddressed to "Amateur Radio G0OIL, Sheffield, England" - Sheffield is MUCH bigger than St Helena and we don't even live there - we live 30 miles away!I suspect that the fault lies with some goof at USPS who thinks that the world extends from WA to ME and from the Rio Grande to the 49th parallel.73 Dave G0OILPeter W2IRT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 04:29 PM 05/17/2006, Jerry Keller wrote: I've sent a card to Peter ZD7FT twice now using his QRZ.COM address, and twice it's been returned to me... (intact, including GS) ... stamped "Insuifficient address". I was going to try again, this time sending it "VIA UK" but thought I'd ask for opinions first. Anyone had any luck?From my experience, I'd use the following format:Peter ConstantinePO. Box 33 ST. HELENA ISLANDSTHL-1ZZSOUTH ATLANTIC OCEANEvery one I've sent like that has been delivered and I've gotten return cards. Who stamped insufficient address, incidentally? If the USPS, someone needs to give their heads a shake. If Royal Mail, I'd be somewhat surprised. Cheers,Peter,W2IRT
Re: [DX-CHAT] dx chat
I'm always up for poking fun at politicians, Nick - ESPECIALLY at the European Union, so there's no need for you to feel defensive. The EU even write their own jokes -the best ones arecalled "Common Agricultural Policy" and "Human Rights Accord". cheers Dave G0OIL - Original Message From: nick cominos [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Sent: Wednesday, 26 July, 2006 1:34:50 AMSubject: [DX-CHAT] dx chat I see that our little DX Chat can become a bit political.To bad.Guess I'll start making funnies about the EU.Wait, guess it's already been done by the signature at the bottom.vy 73,Nick W9UM"War is Peace""Freedom is Slavery""Ignorance is Strength" Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chatTo post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.orgThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Cry-Babies
Sh! Don't tell them how to do it! We don't want the Italians finding out :-) Dave G0OIL - Original Message From: Jim Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: dx chat dx-chat@njdxa.orgSent: Tuesday, 1 August, 2006 9:50:47 PMSubject: [DX-CHAT] Cry-Babies I've been reading this thread about the operation of KH8SI and all I've got to say is instead of being a cry-baby, you should sharpen your DX skills. I've had no problem working them 5 times on 3 bands-all SSB. What I've noticed is callers parking on one frequency and calling over and over even while he is working somebody. I've got news for you- he's not listening on your frequency. What you need to do is listen up the band and try to find the frequency where is is answering callers. Park your VFO there and call him there. He usually will answer all he can hear on that frequency until he can no longer hear anyone there. I don't care if he said 200 to 220, He will find someone and park there on that frequency. There are some operators that move the QSX frequency after each contact, but if you listen, you will find his pattern and can anticipate where you need to call him. The secret to working DX is listen more and call less I give you the example of Martti Lane, His usual method of operation is to work the pile-up on one frequency while all the un-initiated are calling blindly. I can say this with authority because I am at the top of the honor roll on both mixed and phone. I don't have a huge station: an AL-80B and a 5-band two-element cubical quad up 65 feet. I worked all my dx using the skills mentioned above. Working the Swains Island on 17 meters yesterday was like shooting fish in a barrel. I got 'em with one call with 100 watts. You guys complaining about propagation need to realize every area of the earth has good propagation at certain times. I am recalling someone said here the South East has better propagation than the 1,2's, and 3's.. They have better propagation to the four oscar than I do, but I worked him even with 100 watts. So grow up and qwitcherbelliachin'. Jim N4JA
Re: [DX-CHAT] re How do we make better DXers?
That's a funny story Peter. Yanks do tend to be a bit parochial and have this belief that "global" means everywhere between California and Maine :-) Dave G0OIL - Original Message From: Peter Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: dx-chat@njdxa.orgSent: Thursday, 3 August, 2006 10:24:45 PMSubject: [DX-CHAT] re How do we make better DXers? A classic example of cultural misunderstanding? Last Saturday afternoon (local time), KH8SI was coming into Australia S9+20 on 14 mhz SSB. The American operator was using a combination of number and area by insisting on " east coast 1's, 2's and 3's" The inexperienced VK operators (of whom there are many who only operate weekends) kept calling and calling and calling. The KH8 operator was quite abusive telling the VKs to shutup, the VKs were quite abusive because they were doing exactly what the operator was asking for. This went on for about 30 minutes, until one of the experienced ZL operators was able to catch the attention of the KH8 operator and point out that "east coast 1's 2's and 3's was EXACTLY where VK1, VK2 and VK3 were situated! Inexperience on behalf of the VKs or the KH8 or both Cheers Peter VK3QI
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXpedition support
Personally I don't mind chipping in a small amount. Ok, so someone gets a subsidised trip - so what? If they get on the air and disturb a few electrons then they're giving the ham community a service, utilising bandwidth and making people happy. Small price to pay! Dave G0OIL - Original Message From: Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: dx-chat@njdxa.orgSent: Wednesday, 23 August, 2006 9:55:15 AMSubject: [DX-CHAT] DXpedition support The remark about a guy wanting hams to pay for his vacation via DXpedition donations, brings me to a comment I have thot abt for a long time:Today, much ofDXpeditioning is only for the rich... rich enuf to finance the trip, and enuf to be off work (or retired) for the duration.That is a sad situation because I have encountered several possible "wanted entity" DXpeditions that could not happen because the key person(s) could not afford to spend personal funds to make the trip.So, much as I dislike funding someone's vacation, there is often a difference and I fully understand that some of us hams are in a vy gud position (via contacts or location or whatever) to go to some highly wanted entities, but simply lack the funds to do so.I know that I feel somewhat ashamed to ask for donations,loaner gear and other help for my DXpeditions, but it is do that or not activate the entity..I do not know the answer but hope a small discussion about this matter can bring out some good ideas.tnx and 73Charles Harpole[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chatTo post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.orgThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] EU RF mass
I can also endorse these comments, however the issue is probably more related to the total absence of manners than to use of high power and big antennas. I think we're referring to the kind of people that our friends in the CB world call "Alligators" - i.e. all teeth and no ears? I think you should name and shame the German, Tom. As Rag says, there were the usual filthy signals from Southern and Eastern Europe..never mind the quality, feel the width! Roll on the CW leg, it's more fun anyway Dave G0OIL - Original Message From: Tom Wylie [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Ragnar Otterstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.orgSent: Monday, 30 October, 2006 3:09:09 PMSubject: Re: [DX-CHAT] EU RF mass I absolutely agree. I spent some time trying to call XX9 and DU amongst others on 40m ssb at the weekend to no avail. A couple of time I thought the XX9 had come back to me but a German station just kept calling and calling timing his calls to prevent me from making the QSO which was possible even in the QRM. I asked the german why he was calling but he said he couldn't hear the XX9 for the QRM - D'oh.But I did work HS0 and a solitary JA.TomGM4FDM(GM2T)Ragnar Otterstad wrote: Once again -- in this CQ WW SSB test -- I see the way Europe has painted itself into a cornerOver the last few years, EU has built many HUGE contest stations super power and antennas.However, now the mass of RF in that relatively small space means they can only hear one another.For me in HS to call EU successfully takes more effort than it is worth and of course, a run freq from here is difficult due to the huge EU stations.. that never point their beams to S E Asia, anyway. Oh well, there is always the great polite JAs. 73 Charles HarpoleHS0ZCW [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are absultely right - particularly on phone and on the lower bands. On CW it is easier to get by by using narrow filters. 40 usually yields excellent openings to Asia in the afternoon during wintertime. But during CQ WW phone-contest - forget it. Too many overmodulated Italians and eastern Europeans around. 73 " RAG "Ragnar Otterstad LA5HE JW5HE OZ8RO Located in Telemark - Home of skiing. For more information about Telemark take a look at : www.telemarksnett.no/en/index.html Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chatTo post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.orgThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Don't you hate when guys use the Cluster for DXped operating suggestions?
Errr...big deal. So what? If you don't like it, switch the thing off. What do you do if something comes on the TV that you don't like? Do you sit there getting angry? Durr? Dave G0OIL - Original Message From: Ron Notarius W3WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dx-Chat dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Friday, 5 January, 2007 2:06:28 AM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Don't you hate when guys use the Cluster for DXped operating suggestions? Ranks right up there with a handful who make repeated ads on the cluster for their particular web sites or services. Irritating. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Barry Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:35 PM To: Dx-Chat Subject: [DX-CHAT] Don't you hate when guys use the Cluster for DXped operating suggestions? So I'm sitting across the room in the shack, doing something else, then some nimrod does this: DX de N4PN: 1834.0 1A4A Hw about 160m - Condx good! 0124Z GA and gets me to run across the room after DX4WIN announces it to see what's going on. I see it's a false alarm and go back to whatever else I was doing... I'd start blocking individual spotters who do this, but there are too many of them :.( 73, Barry -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Newtown, PA Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Is this for real???
Yeah, funny isn't it? A hotly contested lump of rock fought over by two rather dodgy governments, yet it's possible to get permission to operate. However, in the Home Of The Brave and the Land Of The Free it's not allowed to go to KP1 and KP5. H. :-) Dave G0OIL - Original Message From: Ron Notarius W3WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: harris_ruben [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat List dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Saturday, 10 February, 2007 5:10:15 PM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Is this for real??? Yup. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of harris_ruben Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 11:19 AM To: dx-chat List Subject: [DX-CHAT] Is this for real??? Received today (via Google alert) Southgate Amateur Radio Club RSS Feed - http://www.southgatearc.org Scarborough Reef DXpedition Announcing the 2007 DXpedition to Huang Yan Dao - better known as Scarborough Reef After three years of effort to obtain permission to land and operate from the most needed entity in the world, that needed authorization has been received. A multi-national team led by W6RGG will operate from Scarborough Reef for ten days in late April 2007. BA1HAM and BV4FH have been instrumental in bringing this operation to reality with ongoing support being provided by N4XP, N1DG, K5YY and N6MZ. A team is being assembled that will include members from Asia, Europe and the USA. As with any DXpedition to a location such as this, transportation is very costly and will be the largest single expense. Success will depend on the contributions of the DX Community. Please QRX for more information as it becomes available and the web site is activated. N4XP for the 2007 DXpedition to Huang Yan Dao. via Carl Smith, DX Magazine
Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS
I have a 100 percent return rate from V51AS because I follow a few simple guidelines laid out below. In any case, apparently he now has a QSL drop in Germany. Dave Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what he would like us to believe. Personsally, I don't believe it. If mail theft is such a problem for him, why hasn't he accepted one of the many offers from potential QSL managers? If you need a V5 confirmation, wait for a DXpedition rather than throwing money away QSLing V51AS. Barry, W2UP DAVE WHITE wrote: Frank is a very good QSLer - however he has a problem with mail theft. Don't make your envelope look anything like ham radio, so don't mention callsigns, fold any dollar bills in black paper etc. Even better send recorded. Regards Dave G0OIL Richard Diddams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does V51AS respond to QSL cards? I noticed he has had over 67,000 hits on QRZ.COM. I've worked him on a couple of bands and sent registered mailed (with green stamps) and no response. Does he have a mail problem and it doesn't get to him? Anyone else having difficulty receiving QSLs from V51AS? 73, Dick - W7QHE -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Newtown, PA
RE: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs
Bloody hell. Someone asked a simple question about the log check, and all the old timers are getting on their soap boxes about how much better it was when . You should some over to the UK and listen to the G3 Tomato Growers telling each other on 80m how much better it was when you could get a trolley bus into town, have a meal, go see Arthur Askey and still get change from a farthing... :-) Dave G0OIL Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Dave, the DXCC card checker I referred to was a VE6 who posted on the DX-NEWS reflector Friday morning. I did not know you had posted any inquiries regarding N8S, my message was in reference to someone else. Please get your facts straight next time. 73 - Jim AD1C At 10:07 PM 4/6/2007, Dave Thomas wrote: Jim, Beg your pardon but I am not and have never been a DX card checker. Check your data. I received this call ~ Feb 16, 2007. I don't know what your problem is but you are one of the most uncultured, arrogant individuals I have spoken with in a long time. Are you the master of this mail list or do you enjoy making an ass of yourself in a free form manner ? There were many others on the list that emailed me directly and commented negatively on your behavior. And others wanted the same information as I initially asked about. This is my only response I will to the whole thing. My first and last use of this reflector. Regards to all and -73s- Dave Thomas K4CA ex W4DIM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 5:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; DX, Chat Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs At 05:03 PM 4/6/2007, John - WB8RFB wrote: Is it even remotely possible that the post about on-line logs came from someone new to DX'ing who was simply asking a question that he/she didn't know the answer to? No, it came from a DXCC card checker, according to his signature. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, , http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] BS7H INTO NE USA
Guys, unfortunately this has become the situation here in Europe. . I really don't know where the mass of deliberate QRM comes from, though mostly it seem to be from east or south-east into England so could come from anywhere in Europe. Certainly a lot of the undisciplined cretins seem to be Italians, though I'd certainly not state that it's ALL from Italians, nor that ALL Italians are bad operators. Many a time I hear a pileup, and the DX is asking for (say) Alpha Bravo Charlie ONLY, but listening through the QSX spread I still hear so many without ANY of those letters in the call still shouting away. OK, maybe we can all mis-time a call and double with the DX, but surely most simply aren't listening. Just the other day JT1Y told everyone to QRX, then asked for United Kingdom stations only - and all the deliberate QRM started immediately: whistling, keying, white noise, swearing, blowing raspberries etc. It's just comical. I don't know how to explain why some people would deliberately send QRM over a DXpedition. Perhaps patience is a lost art. Perhaps self discipline is a lost art. Certainly here in the UK, respect for other human beings is now a lost art, particularly in the cities where gangs of feral youths terrorise neighbourhoods, vandalise anything in sight and stab of shoot each other. Education is long dead in this country and has been for a generation thanks to idiot politicians, do-gooders and political correctness - and maybe the results of this failure are making their way across society. Perhaps the activities of IT9RYH and IK1JUO have got the Italians an even worse reputation and have caused everyone's patience to wear thin, but that doesn't excuse what went on yesterday. I';d agree that Sourthern Europe probably has good propagation to BS7 most of the time - they seem to have good propagation everywhere most of the time - though here in Northern Europe propagation windows are much shorter. That was particularly pronounced with N8S. I'd also agree that an expedition should give time to difficult-to-reach parts of the world, but the way things are at the moment, if BS7H had called for North America only yesterday, then there would probably have been bedlam. Dave G0OIL Peter Dougherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not by any means a newcomer to DX, but THIS is worse than ever -- and no one can blame the US lids for it!!! Call by numbers is fine -- as long as WE can hear what numbers the DX is calling!!. Shame on the world's hams!! I Couldn't agree more. I was listening all day on both CW and SSB and the degree of insanity I heard was unlike anything I've ever heard anywhere, ever. I've never operated on CB but could it have been any worse than 14185 was today? Time for a good Rettysnitching, I say. I really don't understand what it is with (southern) European hams' attitudes. If you believe any of the propagation prediction programs, Europe generally has propagation to BS7 24 hours a day on at least one band, often as many as 5 or 6 bands are good simultaneously, so if the Scarborough guys are QRV chances are EU DXers will get a much better shot at them than NA will. Serious European DXers will likely get them on several bands and modes. Yet in the 3 hour window for NA, these clowns won't stand by or stop bitching on the DX frequency. On the other hand, it would also be nice if the team would call NA for a few hours at a time; seemed like it was JA and EU day all day long. I'm sure that will change in the next day or two, so I'm not too worried. Yet . I don't know what the answer is; perhaps the DX operators once in a while should have a listen to their TX frequency and administer the clue bat when things get bad. Maybe along the lines of since you are so badly behaved, no more Europe for the next 12 hours, and hold to it. Cheers, Peter, W2IRT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] BS7H
I think that half the problem here is just plain bad operating, and not listening to what's going on. This afternoon I had a good listen to BS7H's pileup on 17m ssb (once I'd worked them of course). As BS7H called specific stations many times, the Italians (and others, but mainly Italians) just kept calling, and calling and calling. It's infuriating to hear the DX call for the SM6 only, the SM6 O-N-L-Y, all others stand by and ten thousand Italians still keep calling regardless. That just makes each QSO take about 5 minutes, or seemingly so. They say that if you give an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters they'll recreate the works of Shakespeare. Well I might just be able to tell you where to find the infinite number of monkeys. Dave G0OIL Ron Notarius W3WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let us not also forget that, sad to say, there are those amongst the licensed multitude who... shall we say don't have all of their ducks in a row? All of their marbles? A few bricks shy of a load? They either don't (or can't) know better; or due to some twisted logic that exists only in the grey matter between their own ears, know what they're doing and are in some sick manner enjoying it. Their license class (if any) or time licensed (if any) is irrelevant. No amount of training will prevent the mentally ill or mentally diminished from completing their tasks at hand. Fighting back in kind is not an option, as it only creates further chaos; sometimes I believe one of these rogues starts something up and manages to get one frequency cop at the throat of another, and then steps back and enjoys the fight. No one wins -- the frequency cops beat each other up, the DX and those calling them get frustrated, and the sick twisted being that started it all has a moment of glory before the need to do it again descends upon them. Name calling and finger pointing won't work. Policing the frequency won't work and often has the oppposite effect of what is intended. Ignore them. As hard as it is. If they have no audience, if they realize finally that their efforts are for naught as they're not gumming up the works, they'll go off elsewhere and do something else. Don't give these cretins what they want and crave. 73 -- From: Peter Dougherty Date: 2007/05/02 Wed AM 10:09:23 CDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: BS7H At 11:23 AM 05/02/2007, John Warren wrote: Larry K4WLS wrote: If you wanted a Give Away Extra, now you got it !!! ENJOY all the Lids, CB'ers, and QRM you invited in !! I got BS-7H back in '95 with a H.B. Vertical and 90W. Just for fun, bet I can do it again. Larry, There's no reason to believe that the BS7H QRM is due to the newcomers into our hobby. Doubt that most of them know who BS7H is! Much more likely to come from frustrated, impatient 20wpm OTs who are near the top of Honor Roll. Nope, I disagree with both of these. I'm not talking about frequency cops here, they're a different breed. I think many of the real problem-children here are more likely General- and Advanced-Class(less) ops who wander cluelessly through the hobby. This type of op likely has 20+ year old un-maintained equipment, coax that's more green than copper and white inside, a lossy trapped tribander on a rusty old 30 foot tall TV tower and who knows where to find his buddies and not much else. Because his station is crap or his ears aren't working, he'll come up and start calling on top of the DX, not hearing anything, just keep at it. Or the other type who looks at his cluster connection, sees a spot for something he doesn't quite understand and just starts throwing his call in. This last type is the kind of ham I knew a lot of when I was new to the hobby. This bunch gets excited when they have 20m SSB QSOs with Bulgaria, Latvia and the Czech republic (no offence to OMs from those FB countries intended) and ecstatic when they work a couple of JA, VKs and ZLs in a day. The concept of what BS7H really is is lost on them and they just blunder into the pile not understanding the dynamics involved, how to call, etc. They are NOT really DXers, they're wannabees or don't-wannabees. Think of the guys you see at hamfests in coveralls or other ill-fitting clothes and callsign-hats, wandering around with moths in their wallets and between their ears. This type will criticize or go against anything that they can't understand or can't afford. They'll put down contesters and DXers with big stations because they can't afford to do it themselves, or don't want to take the time to learn. I think we all know a bunch of guys who fit this description to one degree or another. Cheers, Peter, W2IRT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
Didn't Romeo Stepanenko get extradited from Cyprus to the USA a while ago regarding some credit card fraud, or money laundering charge? What happened to him? Dave G0OIL harris_ruben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: O Romeo, wherefore art thou, Romeo? In a new very hot place, perhaps? N2ERN -- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers: Don Miller stuff
Yes, Don's certainly alive and well and was released in 2002. He's got a new callsign: AE6IY. I've corresponded with him by email and put him in touch with an acquaintance - a geographer who's into scuba and wreck diving and was asking about some of the south Pacific islands that Don visited, in particular some of the subsurface reefs such as Maria Theresa. Even in these days of GPS and satellite imagery there's still hot debate on the subject of these reefs, exactly where they are (or aren't) and the geology / habitat etc. Don's certainly an interesting chap with many a story to tell. Dave G0OIL john [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't Don Miller just get out of jail , relatively recently? John At 05:15 PM 5/6/2007, DAVE WHITE wrote: I wonder if I should visit him and ask for my QSL cards? He cna't run away this time... :-) Dave G0OIL Ronald Loneker Sr. wrote: He's in Jail in California for massive credit card forgery according to what I have read...He deseres it! 73/DX Ron DAVE WHITE wrote: Didn't Romeo Stepanenko get extradited from Cyprus to the USA a while ago regarding some credit card fraud, or money laundering charge? What happened to him? Dave G0OIL */harris_ruben /* wrote: O Romeo, wherefore art thou, Romeo? In a new very hot place, perhaps? N2ERN -- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- Ronald Loneker Sr.- KA2BZS #1DXCC Honor Roll - 9BDXCC A-1 Op - QCWA http://www.cwforever.com Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds
They do seem like an impressive job. Just thinking back to 1995 for a moment, didn't the ARRL disallow the first BS7 expedition because the operators had artificially created land above high water with scaffolds - and then the second operation was allowed because they perched on the rocks? Or did I get that wrong. I wonder if they built nests and laid any eggs? :-) Dave G0OIL Gary Danaher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody else has mentioned this so I feel the need. How did those guys get those platforms erected so quickly? They appear to be quite sturdy. Wonder if they borrowed somebody's back yard, had a dump truck full of rocks dropped off, and practiced doing this a few times. Ya' know this wasn't very easy, even if they were able to wade hip deep next to the rocks. If somebody could get the actual dimensions and forms of the rocks, the next trip out they could have foam-fitted platforms to just drop over the rock and start working! Ah, the dream Gary AB5RM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts)
Off the coast of Dover there's a sandbank called Goodwin Sands. It's a shifting and treacherous sandbank that lies just below the surface of the water and has claimed many shipwrecks over the years. Goodwin Sands only rises above the sea at a couple of very low spring tides each year. ONE ONE OF THESE OCCASIONS EACH YEAR, LOCALS GO AND PLAY AN ANNUAL CRICKET MATCH ON THE SANDS. Now THAT'S what I call REASONABLE for a hobby! Dave G0OIL Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:45 PM 5/10/2007, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: failing to meet any reasonable standard for acceptance - it should have never been added under any objective rule set. E, u, hold on a minute. Who, supposedly in his right mind, but NOT holding an amateur radio operators license would think that ANY DX-Pedition is reasonable? Who gets to define reasonable? As long as no laws are broken, and the participants act voluntarily, isn't reasonable anything we want to do? Some people jump out of airplanes, or off of high bridges with stretchy rubber tied to their ankles. I wouldn't do it, I think they are nuts, but they make their own rules, just like we make ours. Reasonable is a very subjective term. Personally, I don't think that BS7 should have been made a new entity, but, apparently a majority of those interpreting the DXCC rules thought it qualified. 73, Mike, W5UC age treachery will overcome youth skill http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds
Just looking at the first QSL and the pictures from the recentoperation, there is a big difference. The scaffold on the first operation raises the operating level several feet into the air. This time it looks like the operators have taken great care not to do this, and they look level with the rocks. Wow, they've put on a great effort! cheers Dave G0OIL Osten B Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave! I have QSL's from the 1994, 1995 and 1997 operations. The 1994 operation did not count for DXCC, and you are correct about the reason for it. 73/DX de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DAVE WHITE To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds They do seem like an impressive job. Just thinking back to 1995 for a moment, didn't the ARRL disallow the first BS7 expedition because the operators had artificially created land above high water with scaffolds - and then the second operation was allowed because they perched on the rocks? Or did I get that wrong. I wonder if they built nests and laid any eggs? :-) Dave G0OIL Gary Danaher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody else has mentioned this so I feel the need. How did those guys get those platforms erected so quickly? They appear to be quite sturdy. Wonder if they borrowed somebody's back yard, had a dump truck full of rocks dropped off, and practiced doing this a few times. Ya' know this wasn't very easy, even if they were able to wade hip deep next to the rocks. If somebody could get the actual dimensions and forms of the rocks, the next trip out they could have foam-fitted platforms to just drop over the rock and start working! Ah, the dream Gary AB5RM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] VK0 Heard Island
OK, I'll pack my winter woolies. Please send cheque for $250,000 to... Dave G0OIL Kenneth Sobel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need VK0 Heard Island for my last one. Please someone go on a dxpedition. It has been 10 years since last operation. de Ken W3JJ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds
OK, thanks guys. The hazy memories of 12 years ago are coming back Whatever, these chaps who just did the operation did a superb job. I'd employ them as scaffolders anytimeexcept that I always do my own Dave G0OIL Tom Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave: I was told that it was disallowed in 1995 because the scaffolding was in the water at high tide. Some of the photos from this operation posted show some scaffolding in the water. You have to look, but its there. Tom, WW5L DAVE WHITE wrote: They do seem like an impressive job. Just thinking back to 1995 for a moment, didn't the ARRL disallow the first BS7 expedition because the operators had artificially created land above high water with scaffolds - and then the second operation was allowed because they perched on the rocks? Or did I get that wrong. I wonder if they built nests and laid any eggs? :-) Dave G0OIL Gary Danaher wrote: Nobody else has mentioned this so I feel the need. How did those guys get those platforms erected so quickly? They appear to be quite sturdy. Wonder if they borrowed somebody's back yard, had a dump truck full of rocks dropped off, and practiced doing this a few times. Ya' know this wasn't very easy, even if they were able to wade hip deep next to the rocks. If somebody could get the actual dimensions and forms of the rocks, the next trip out they could have foam-fitted platforms to just drop over the rock and start working! Ah, the dream Gary AB5RM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook
Bizarrely I received my yearbook a couple of weeks ago, and I'm 3000 miles away There are a few interesting articles in it. Personally I've never been bothered about seeing listings. I know how many I've worked, how many I need and I work DX for my own satisfaction, not to see myself in a league table. In any case, shouldn't listings be put on a website somewhere on the ARRL site? It's 2007, not 1957, so why tie up about a zillion sheets of paper with something that's out of date by the time it's printed? cheers Dave G0OIL Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:04 PM 7/23/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since they removed the DXCC listings, including the Honor Roll List, it is nothing more than reading How's DX on steroids. I no longer look forward to receiving it. But keep in mind, DXCC did this in our best interest. I know they put the lists in the Aug or Sept QST, but it ain't the same. They put the Honor Roll list (deadline: 3/31) into a late-Summer QST. But that's it. It's not a complete DXCC listing, for which they invented the DXCC Yearbook to move all that stuff out of QST. If that's all that's in this year's edition, it's going to be a real letdown. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, , http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] A public apology to ND1L
I can't see why he took offence at your forwarding this reply. He doesn't seem like a grumpy guy but maybe he was just having a grumpy day :-) Surely he'd have sent the same reply to me if I'd asked? And everyone else here? If you want something kept confidential you should say so. cheers Dave G0OIL harris_ruben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We might all note that Bill appears to be a subscriber to this list. For some reason, Bill took umbrage (no, he was REALLY PO'd) at my forwarding his quite reasonable response to my eMail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in this reflector. I didn't see anything personal, nasty or even defensive in his reply to me, and I posted it to the Reflector in its entirety, without comment one way or the other. Of course, I sent my original question to the LEAGUE, and not to Bill personally. Since the LEAGUE is OUR association, I didn't give a second thought to printing the LEAGUE'S response to this question and subsequent discussion here. In fact, some of you have since privately eMailed me thanking me for publishing the League's response. Apparently, I should have been more discreet and paraphrased the response instead of quoting it. My apologies to Bill for, if nothing else, bringing him into this discussion. Additionally, because of my many years of professional typesetting experience, I have also sent Bill a few suggestions as to how MUCH more data may be fit into less space. I have never seen any Yearbook that didn't list the members of the class, BTW. I'm done with this subject. Bill can ream me out personally the next time I bring a batch of cards up to Newington (hello, BS7H). Harris N2ERN Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] 7O
I think to write to Bill and ask him if he's seen any documentation is perfectly reasonable. If so then was the documentation any good is also a reasonable question, particularly after the 7O1A and 7O1YGF farces. But for N7TK to ask Bill whether he thinks he should go on holiday or not, well in my opinion he's having a turkish (look it up on a cockney rhyming slang website) I worked 7O/OH2YY in 2002 so you won't hear me in the pileups - hopefully that makes space for one more bloke who needs it. And good luck to those who do. Chris Lorek is a good solid bloke, and I'm sure he's done his best to ensure that things are all above board and legal. I can also suggest that if Chris is providing the kit then it'll put out a decent signal. cheers Dave G0OIL Dave AA6YQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No one's on G4HCL's case, Tom. Everyone understands that he'll do the best he can. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Wylie Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 2:38 AM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O Why don't you all just get off the guy's case. Yemen is a difficult place well know that. We also know you can't just step off a plane with ham radio gear and start transmitting or you land in jail or worse. Why don't you just work the guy or don't work the guy - your choice, then wait and see what happens. Who can tell what document(s) he might or might not have. Primarily he is a businessman going there on business, and will try to get some ham radio in when he has the time. If you are so convinced without even knowing the guy, or the facts, that the operation won't count - then - just go on vacation! What business is it of yours to be writing to ARRL BEFORE an operation Tom GM4FDM Dave AA6YQ wrote: Unless Bill has reviewed and pre-approved the documentation for this operation, his only reasonable response is I don't know; you decide. If he says I doubt it will count, and you go on vacation, and G4HCL later sends documentation that Bill approves, then his face is on your dartboard. If he says It might count, and you cancel your vacation, and you spend hours in your shack to work G4HCL/7O, and G4HCL later sends documentation that Bill rejects, then his face is on your dartboard. 7O is the last one I need. There's no question about where I'll be come Monday UTC... 73, Dave, AA6YQ - Original Message - *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Bill (ARRL DXCC) Moore *Cc:* DX Chat *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2007 6:48 PM *Subject:* [DX-CHAT] 7O Bill: I am writing this as an open email to you in hopes that you will respond to my questions for my benefit, and also for others that partake in DXCC. The following article appeared in the DXis website: Chris Lorek, G4HCL, has authorized me to inform everyone that he plans to be active from Sana, Yemen, once again as 7O/G4HCL from Monday 13 August until early on Wednesday 15 August. Chris has written permission and official authority to operate on all HF amateur bands under supervised conditions, but warns that it may or may not be possible to obtain the specific documentation that satisfies DXCC requirements. WFWL! This is NOT A DXpedition but a business trip, and operation will therefore only be when possible and is only likely to be for short periods at a time. Chris will be using 1kW to a professional biconical monopole communications antenna. Activity will be SSB only, and probably only on 20m (look between 14170 and 14260kHz). QSL information for this operation is direct only to G4HCL,PO Box 400, Eastleigh SO53 4ZF, UK. This begs the obvious questions given the recent 7O operations (7O1YGF AND 7O1A) that have happened and not approved by DXCC: 1. Have you had any contact with Chris regarding who the proper authority is and what paperwork is necessary for it to get DXCC approval? Would you let us know who the recognized authority is there and what paperwork is required from them. I ask this question because it keeps coming up in discussions about past and future operation from 7O. If he hasn't contacted you, are you going to try and contact him to advise him on what is required to get approval of his op from DXCC. 2. Do you feel there is a possibility of this becoming a DXCC approved operation? Is it worth canceling my current vacation plans to try and make a contact and get a card confirming it? 3. Since it is not a Dxpedition and since he will only be operating during his available time, it means extensive time commitment on our parts to try and be there when he activates. That pretty much ties up 3 days to do that. When he is on, there will be huge pileups with the slimmer chances of getting through .Is it worth going through all of that if it is unlikely to ever get DXCC approval? Sharing you opinion on this will hopefully gives us a better feel for
Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O North America
Well after all that I said about if Chris provides the gear then he'll be audible - I have to eat humble pie and take it all back. I don't know what must have happened and can only assume that there are factors beyond his control - this guy DOES know what he's doing. Today his audio sounded like he'd got his head down in a tin barrel of mud and the signal was VERY weak - 3/3 at best - apart from one five-minute burst when it came up to 5/7 - 5/9 and he was workable from central England - and this with a 5 element monobander. Yesterday I heard nothing but the usual cognitively challenged Italians trying to work out what the split button does. I can only assume that the antenna is severely sub optimal for 14MHz, or he's having to run very limited power? cheers Dave G0OIL Werner Berli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack - K4WSB wrote: After the 2nd day of operation, I have not heard a peep here in Tampa. The only spots I've seen have been from the EU. Has anyone in the US heard or worked him? Jack, he was on from about 11:00 to 13:00Z. I just barely heard him on a 3el Yagi. Prop was really poor between 7O and HB. Also some stns in GM and DL could not hear him at all. Stns in UA9 and SP and of course Italy got on. His sig was not stable enough for an exchange. I called when I copied him on about 3 occasions, but could not copy, if he ever came back to me. Apparently he is using a commercial rig with fixed freq. intervals. I concluded that, when he explained that he did not have a VFO and asked stns to call precisely up 5 or down five. (He switched at irregular intervals) There was a spot, mentioning that he operated out of the Sanaa airport. Yesterday his sigs improved after 14Z, but he quit too early today. 73 de Werner, HB9US Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] new qrm strategy
Since we have an utter clown here in Europe (IT9RYH) who calls incessantly on 14.195 I'd suggest that DX stations call on 14.190 listening up 5, thus blasting the Arsewipe Of Agrigento off his frequency. Yes, he does tell people that .195 is his frequency. Most people here would like to introduce him to .303 - a Browning .303 that is... cheers Dave G0OIL Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tonight I hit on another strategy to deal with intentional QRMer who is sending a string of dits. I asked my pile up to stand by and said, To the op who is sending a string of dits, I know you are frustrated and very much want a contact; thus, please call me on SSB now. I am standing by for only you. The freq. got very quiet and the dit-er went away after that who knows, it may work. 73 de HS0ZCW Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get the device you want, with the Hotmail® you love. http://www.windowsmobile.com/hotmailmobile?ocid=MobileHMTagline_1 Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: Vedr. [DX-CHAT] 1B1AB
Go on Rag, say something provocative for a change :-) Dave G0OIL ragnar otterstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Northern Cypros is occupied territory. It is not recognised as Turkish, in the same way as Jerusalem is not recognised as Israeli, by the international community. 73 rag la5he --- Charles Harpole skrev: Hello DXers, What is the possible DXCC status of Turkish Republic Of Northern Cyprus (TRNC)? I worked 1B1AB and his web page on qrz.com in interesting. I did not even know of a TRNC. 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ A place for moms to take a break! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Re: [DX-NEWS] Ten Tec woes
Things must have changed dramatically since I last dealt with Tentec. I had an Omni V back in about 1990 and had a problem with a switch board. Tentec helped me to diagnose the problem and sent me a new board free of charge, I just had to pay the shipping. They were extremely helpful with advice and technical literature. All part of a small company growing into a larger company and not having the organisational capability Dave G0OIL Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Paul, I am sorry to say your response is the winner of the MOST LAME CUSTOMER SERVICE RESPONSE of the year, maybe the decade. This cap blow up problem is now on its THIRD occasion, with identical symptoms, happening on Florida electrical AC power and now on a different electrical power, WITH NO lightning anywhere within sight on any of the occasions. In all cases, I monitor my AC power with a good meter all the time, and have NEVER observed power spikes upward and only the usual 5 volt dip when the air con comes on. I know micro spikes and dips can occur, but to think that such would cause a disk cermaic cap to blow up ON THE METER SHUNT BOARD, borders on stupid given THREE breaker/fuse before that, etc etc. I think this unit has a design flaw that you either do not know about or want to ignore. Further, your company should be aware of the poor reputation your customer contact history has. In my case, twice I have come close to ordering an ORION, and after a brief query with your offices, have been put off by the terse, simplistic answers. TEN TEC has some great products, but the co. should ask itself, Why is it not a major power in the ham radio field? Certainly, if you ask, I can tell you. Meanwhile, I see that I am on my own and that Ten Tec products are basically sold as is and rapidly become orphans in the storm. Good luck, Ten Tec will need it. Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Paul Clinton To: Charles Harpole Subject: Re: 425 amp query Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:20:29 -0400 Dear Charles: Probably caused by a surge on the AC line, possibly lightning. 73, Paul R. Clinton WD4EBR Service Manager - Original Message - From: Charles Harpole To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: 425 amp query To: Oct. 22, 2007 Ten-Tec, Inc. 1185 Dolly Parton Prky. Sevierville, TN 37862 Hello Paul in Repair: My Ten Tec Titan 425 (first version), serial # 60A10120 was repaired in your shop on Feb. 1, 2006, Invoice number 091959, order number 093150. At that time you repaired the Meter Shunt board and a number of other items. This was the second such failure in the life of this unit. Since receiving the unit, I have used it for about 30 hours and now have the same failure again. A flat mica disk cap. on the meter shunt board is blown open physically, and the 25 watt resistor in the power supply also burned up. My home breaker stopped further damage. This is the third failure. I am writing for suggestions for repair because this fault appears to be happening often in this product. I need advice because I do not want further factory $330. repair bills on a unit that appears to have a design fault. Please help. Charles Harpole K4VUD [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us -- Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] THE DXR is sponsored by the North Jersey DX Association. Please visit our website: http://www.njdxa.org/index.php scroll to bottom for subscribe/unsubscribe options -- Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Where do they go next?
I would like to reach the top of the Honor Roll before any new ones are added. HB9US Yeah, you and me too Werner. I think I'll wait a long time for a KP1, the last one for me! Dave G0OIL WHB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With Montenegro, Lakshadweep, Swains and Scarborough-Reef out of the way, would someone please activate Yemen, 7O! Several tens of thousands of DXers have like me at least 2 7O cards which are not acceptable for DXCC and many like me need 7O for the last one. I would like to reach the top of the Honor Roll before any new ones are added. 73 de Werner, HB9US Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] FJ/OH2AM signals
Hi all, Does anyone know what Olli and Martti are running from FJ? They've been putting a truly magnificent signal into this part of the world, certainly a change from the half-a-watt-into-a-wet-string expeditions. They're currently (10am) coming in at 20db over 9 on 40m cw and were a big S9 on 20m SSB last night. Excellent, efficient operation too! cheers Dave G0OIL Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: Fwd: Re: [DX-CHAT] FJ Can of worms
Ah, the season of Good Will To All Men from some of our friends across the English Channel again, I see. Yes, Victor - envy abounds in the minds of some. Still, it does help if people read the rules first! I'm sure that Martti and Olli did, but more fool them if they didn't. Look on the bright side - at least it's not VK0H or BS7 that they'll disqualify this time! We'll see. Dave Victor Goncharsky US5WE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The envy fills the damned can. Welcome into 21-st Century Hamming. 73, Vic Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] C21 article in Daily Telegraph, for those interested
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/13/wnauru113.xml I had to laugh about the police chief and his yellow Lambo, though cheers Dave G0OIL Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Extra Class Exam
Does anyone know when the use of the old question pool ends and use of the new one starts? Todd Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell what i did was buy the ARRL license manual and READ ALL OF IT. Take the mini tests after each chapter. keep it fresh by also taking the free exams on QRZ.com it took me three months but i only missed one question. I am NOT a super technically minded person. I felt it important to read all of the manual just so I can have a real understanding of the theory if only for this study period. the day before I took the qrz test several times as it is mixed up from the entire question pool each time you take it. good luck 73 de todd WB2ZAB Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] QRZ.COM down?
Hi all Is QRZ.com down, or is it just my isp having difficulty connecting? cheers Dave --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Are CW ops getting older?
Ain't nobody getting any younger, Dave! At least if they are, he should patent his secret and sell it. On a serious point, I felt that it was always the older members of the hobby who wished to preserve cw as an entry criterion for the HF bands - something which I always considered to be ridiculous (no, I'm NOT trying to re-open the code/no-code debate). Interestingly, I always said that there was no way I'd ever mess about operating cw, and only did the test to get my ticket. The mode held no interest for me at all. But then one day I bought an all-mode TNC at a hamfest - actually to send/receive RTTY - so I hooked it up to my computer and started to use it. Incidentally it also worked for cw, so it rather got me into using the mode on the bands just out of interest. Strangely, I look at my log book these days and I'd say that cw is the mode that I use the most. As you imply, it's probably an age thing. I still send from the keyboard, though use Human Brain Mark #1 for decoding. More grey hairs - of which I now have many - means more cw operating, perhaps? I shall practice sitting on my porch, barking at passers-by and waving my stick at passing traffic in between sending with a bug key. Will I then be a fully-fledged, 100 percent cw op? .. cheers Dave G0OIL David Rollitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, I recently made a few QSO's during the All Asia CW test, the exchange in the AA Test is RS(T) and Age for OM's. Having checked my contacts I found the average age was 49.1!! I wonder if anyone else checked their contacts this way. It will be interesting to do the same thing with the SSB test coming up ( I think) in September. 73 David G3XYP --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
RE: [DX-CHAT] Are CW ops getting older?
Ah, I can only be a REAL CW op if I use a straight key, right? I see now. And because I hit nails in with my fist rather than using a hammer or, God forbid, a nailgun it makes me a REAL carpenter, right? Er Actually that'd be a great party trick, don't you think? A bit like John Belushi crushing a beer can on his head in National Lampoon's Animal House - another trick that I've always wished I could do :-) Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad this subject came up! Still more or less being considered young in this hobby at age 33 going on 23 I hold the highest regaurd for preserving the foundation of Amatuer Radio. Such as for CW for instance I think it's the most important mode just for our sole purpose which we can make great use of besides in emergency communications. Like many of us real CW operators if there were an emergency and we knew at the other end of the Red Cross line there were another Ham op. I would hope that if CW were my last hope at getting a message across i'd have a chance right? WRONG! I can't wait for them to load up HRD or some other type of program when I may have a few seconds or minute to get the code across. I'm a CW operator my response oh yeah! What type of keyer do you use? theirs Keyer! I use a keyboard What!! Folks! Just because you use a keyboard for CW does not make you CW operators unless you can receive and send CW with some sort of keyer. Any fool can send with a keyboard, but when put to test can you step up? My belief and point about the code and no code exams were always about the points I mentioned above. Plus! The fact that it was the most effcient mode and comes in handy every time. Those students people always made it about nostalgia or personal. So now that you have a keyboard and interface CW all of a sudden is the mode used mostly for many? Gee! I wonder why. 73! - From: DAVE WHITE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 01, 2008 5:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Are CW ops getting older? Ain't nobody getting any younger, Dave! At least if they are, he should patent his secret and sell it. On a serious point, I felt that it was always the older members of the hobby who wished to preserve cw as an entry criterion for the HF bands - something which I always considered to be ridiculous (no, I'm NOT trying to re-open the code/no-code debate). Interestingly, I always said that there was no way I'd ever mess about operating cw, and only did the test to get my ticket. The mode held no interest for me at all. But then one day I bought an all-mode TNC at a hamfest - actually to send/receive RTTY - so I hooked it up to my computer and started to use it. Incidentally it also worked for cw, so it rather got me into using the mode on the bands just out of interest. Strangely, I look at my log book these days and I'd say that cw is the mode that I use the most. As you imply, it's probably an age thing. I still send from the keyboard, though use Human Brain Mark #1 for decoding. More grey hairs - of which I now have many - means more cw operating, perhaps? I shall practice sitting on my porch, barking at passers-by and waving my stick at passing traffic in between sending with a bug key. Will I then be a fully-fledged, 100 percent cw op? .. cheers Dave G0OIL David Rollitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, I recently made a few QSO's during the All Asia CW test, the exchange in the AA Test is RS(T) and Age for OM's. Having checked my contacts I found the average age was 49.1!! I wonder if anyone else checked their contacts this way. It will be interesting to do the same thing with the SSB test coming up ( I think) in September. 73 David G3XYP --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---= --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Anybody up for a Pacific trip?
Ban mining and drilling? Maybe the Bush family doesn't own any mineral rights in that part of the world, then. Or maybe he wants to ban it for a while so they can buy the rights cheaply. I'm sure the USA will change its mind once you all run out of gasoline for your 7 liter SUVs :-) Cynic? Who? Me? cheers Dave G0OIL Peter Dougherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26396214/ They mention Kingman specifically, and I'm sure a few more rare/ultra-rare ones will be included in that plan. Gotta say, it would be great to see at least one of those endangered entities activated before it's too late. Regards, Peter, W2IRT --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] YU7GMN V51AS QSL's
Hi Jerry, I never tried YU7GWN, but have received several QSLs from V51AS.
V51AS is a good QSLer.when he receives mail, so please don't blame him.
Unfortunately, as with much of Africa since the colonial powers left, countries
descended into chaos, corruption and theft (go to Nigeria, it's a way of life
there!). We see this in the mail theft that routinely happens with mail to
V51AS. Sadly this has happened across the whole continent - they're not all as
bad as Zimbabwe, but plenty are nearly there. Remember, $2 is often a weekly or
monthly wage in Africa and Western aid $$$ end up in the current dictator's
Swiss bank account.
If I can give any tips (they're old, well-known ones), it's
(1) Don't write callsigns or amateur radio etc on the envelope
(2) fold your green stamps inside your return envelope and make sure that this
in turn is folded so that the contents aren't visible even if the corners of
your envelope are lifted. Insert it opening down.
(3) If you've not got a dark coloured QSL card, shove some carbon paper in
there, so the contents aren't visible if it's held to the light
(4) try to fold the return envelope so it doesn't look like a return envelope -
this is a dead giveaway.
Following these, I have a pretty decent return rate from V51AS
I'd be surprised if there are such mail problems in Serbia, but YU7GMN is a
club station, so mail probably sits there for a while. They're probably more
interested in operating/antenna projects etc. Do you know which op you
worked? You could probably try him???
Whilst we're on the subject, has anyone received QSLs from XE1KK?
Hope this helps.
cheers
Dave G0OIL
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Thanks,
Jerry WWØE
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Re: [DX-CHAT] SL mamangers around the world in countries with reliable mail service willing to help
Hi Barry, Strangely I've had no problems with FR5DX eitheronce I learned to write REUNION ISLAND, FRANCE, or VIA FRANCE on the envelope. Don't let it go direct. Our Gallic friends have a good post office. However, I don't see why these guys don't use a QSL manager either. Have you ever travelled around Africa? I have a bit, but ask G3SXW, G3VMW or G0IAS to relate some REAL experiences :-) It's a different world. Really. cheers D --- On Sat, 15/11/08, Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [DX-CHAT] SL mamangers around the world in countries with reliable mail service willing to help To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Saturday, 15 November, 2008, 12:49 PM I sent a card to YU7GMN via buro in 2003 with no reply. I've never sent a card to V51AS despite 20+ QSOs because he is a well-known QSL deadbeat. I don't buy his bad mail service excuse. It appears he's a graduate of the FR5DX School of QSLing - send just enough cards so people will keep trying, sending more green stamps each time. If the mail service is, in fact, the problem, there are plenty of volunteer QSL managers around the world, in countries with reliable mail service, willing to help. One doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to know that's the way to go if the mail service is really the problem. There are DXpeditions of V5 every now and then. Wait for one of those. 73, Barry W2UP DAVE WHITE wrote: Hi Jerry, I never tried YU7GWN, but have received several QSLs from V51AS. V51AS is a good QSLer.when he receives mail, so please don't blame him. Unfortunately, as with much of Africa since the colonial powers left, countries descended into chaos, corruption and theft (go to Nigeria, it's a way of life there!). We see this in the mail theft that routinely happens with mail to V51AS. Sadly this has happened across the whole continent - they're not all as bad as Zimbabwe, but plenty are nearly there. Remember, $2 is often a weekly or monthly wage in Africa and Western aid $$$ end up in the current dictator's Swiss bank account. If I can give any tips (they're old, well-known ones), it's (1) Don't write callsigns or amateur radio etc on the envelope (2) fold your green stamps inside your return envelope and make sure that this in turn is folded so that the contents aren't visible even if the corners of your envelope are lifted. Insert it opening down. (3) If you've not got a dark coloured QSL card, shove some carbon paper in there, so the contents aren't visible if it's held to the light (4) try to fold the return envelope so it doesn't look like a return envelope - this is a dead giveaway. Following these, I have a pretty decent return rate from V51AS I'd be surprised if there are such mail problems in Serbia, but YU7GMN is a club station, so mail probably sits there for a while. They're probably more interested in operating/antenna projects etc. Do you know which op you worked? You could probably try him??? Whilst we're on the subject, has anyone received QSLs from XE1KK? Hope this helps. cheers Dave G0OIL --- On *Sat, 15/11/08, Jerry Rappel /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: From: Jerry Rappel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [DX-CHAT] YU7GMN V51AS QSL's To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Saturday, 15 November, 2008, 5:19 AM Has anyone received QSL's from YU7GWN, or V51AS? Thanks, Jerry WWØE --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1789 - Release Date: 11/14/2008 7:32 PM -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Newtown, PA --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe
Re: [DX-CHAT] QSL mamangers around the world in countries with reliable mail service willing to help
Hell, that's a good queston, Zack. I'd assume that they go via Madagascar or perhaps Kenya or South Africa. La Poste France deliver direct to French possessions without the use of third parties as far as I know. Next time I speak to FR5DX (actually I've not heard him for ages - is he still active or back in France??) I'll ask him. FR1AN seems pretty active but he doesn't seem to appear on the bands much for Euope openings (I can't blame him avoiding the Italian Muppet Show we have to contend with every time DX appears) and uses a US QSL manager. Maybe you can ask him. It'll annoy me now I don't know the answer :-) cheers Dave --- On Sat, 15/11/08, Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] QSL mamangers around the world in countries with reliable mail service willing to help To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Saturday, 15 November, 2008, 7:34 PM You know I've always done this because opthers have told me to do it. However, it begs the question: Where do the letters go (by what route) if they DON'T say Via France on them? What route do they take when they DO say that? 73, Zack W9SZ On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, DAVE WHITE wrote: Hi Barry, Strangely I've had no problems with FR5DX eitheronce I learned to write REUNION ISLAND, FRANCE, or VIA FRANCE on the envelope. Don't let it go direct. Our Gallic friends have a good post office. --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Follow-up on Via France post
Thanks for that, Barry. All I know is that FR5DX said put Reunion Island, France, not Reunion Island Indian Ocean and he's more likely to receive it. QSLs the old route were never answered (zero out of 4), QSLs the new route were (three out of three). I can't figure the science, but there you go :-) I still stand by the tips I gave earlier like hiding $$ well and Never putting ANYTHING about ham radio or callsigns on the envelope cheers D --- On Mon, 17/11/08, Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [DX-CHAT] Follow-up on Via France post To: Dx-Chat dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Monday, 17 November, 2008, 11:35 PM I know someone whose son is a supr. with USPS. I posed the question to him about writing routing info like Via France or Via Japan on an envelope and whether it makes any difference. Here's what he said, FWIW: My son went with this to Washington. Apparently, there is a large book called the International Mail Manual. According to whomever Dave talked to, there is NO way that the public can request or demand the route that something is to be shipped internationally. In other words, it is at the discretion of the postal system as to how it gets wherever it is going. I read that as if it was leaving say Washington, D.C.---it could fly out from there and go one route. But, if leaving say California, it might go another route. However the particular regional distribution center has it set up. For example---our mail goes by truck to Baltimore---and then out from there. Barry W2UP -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Newtown, PA --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Follow-up on Via France post
Thanks Laurent. The Defence rests, Your Honour.. :-) Dave G0OIL --- On Tue, 18/11/08, Laurent FERRACCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laurent FERRACCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Follow-up on Via France post To: Cc: Dx-Chat dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 8:37 AM Barry a écrit : I know someone whose son is a supr. with USPS. I posed the question to him about writing routing info like Via France or Via Japan on an envelope and whether it makes any difference. Hi friends, Reunion is a french departement. It's located overseas, but has the same public services than we have in France. The french post is exactly the same here and there. It's not necessary to even write Reunion island. There's a french postcode (97...) that means it. Only write FRANCE and it will arrive in the Reunion island. -- Laurent Ferracci, F1JKJ Webmaster WWW.CDXC.ORG --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Kudos to V73NS
Yes, Rag - V73 on 160, that would be nice! I guess it's theoretically possible from here too, though we'd have a pretty short window from G land, a bit longer as we go into December and January. Nice to hear from you again and hope you're keeping well, say hello to the Vikings from me :-) cheers Dave G0OIL --- On Thu, 20/11/08, ragnar otterstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ragnar otterstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [DX-CHAT] Kudos to V73NS To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, 20 November, 2008, 11:50 AM Kudos to V73NS who stuck with me on 40 CW Wednesday night (Thursday a.m. GMT). He first copied OC then eventually got 1C and finally my whole callsign. He sent me a 449. I sent him a 559, he wasn't booming like the DX I usually chase. It's great when someone sticks with you, even when you're nothing special! He was my DXCC #83 from the Colorado location using this setup since August 2008. 73 - Jim AD1C Seconded ! Excellent operator. Hope he will make some efforts for Europe on 80 and 160 also !! 73 Rag LA5HE _ Alt i ett. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld?
Oh, so notching is a new development, eh? Well it probably is if you're a dullard who works for a bunch of buffoons like IBM! Maybe if Ray Blair talked the the ham radio operators (who amazingly still have clout) he'd find that we amazingly still have more knowledge and intelligence than monkeys in blue suits like him cheers Dave G0OIL (PS I work in IT. It's always my pleasure to fire IBM consultants off site. And EDS. And Accenture. And Tata...) --- On Mon, 29/12/08, Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net wrote: From: Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net Subject: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld? To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Cc: w1...@arrl.org Date: Monday, 29 December, 2008, 7:59 PM Nice little article on Infoworld's site today, about the 10 most under-reported tech stories of 2008. Of interest to us is #6: BPL is Back from the Dead (see http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/12/29/53FE-tech-underreported-powerline_1.html ) Of note in the article is this paragraph: And another recent innovation, called notching, lets the chips switch frequencies when meeting interference. This upgrade should quiet the fears of ham radio operators (who amazingly enough have still have significant clout) and others that BPL will cause problems for various radio services, says Ray Blair, IBM's head of advanced networking. Who amazingly enough have still have significant clout ??? Never mind the bad English (don't they employ editors anymore? or proof readers?). I'm not sure if we should take that as an insult or a compliment. What do you think? 73 --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld?......and QRM.....
Hi all On the QRM front, I've noticed a huge increase in RF noise from items like Christmas lights this year. Someone a couple of street away put some twinkling LED lights in his garden, purchased from Tesco (a large supermarket chain here in the UK). These fill 160 and 80m with a rasping noise over S9 and fill 20m with the same s9plus noise beaming in that direction. Clearly the wire to the lamps works like an antenna, transmitting diode hash and rubbish from the switched mode supply. Needless to say, they're cheap Chinese trash from the Ping Pong Poo Electrics Company (or whoever). Electrical gear that is sold in the EU is supposed to be tested and CE marked as compliant with standards, but enforcement of this is non-existent. Even big companies like BT (British Temecom) falsely and fraudulently stamp CE on their home networking devices which are staggeringly non-compliant with RFI standards. Anyway, this next bit is hilarious. I got this reply to my message laughing at IBM, presumably from someone on the DX-CHAT group. It's anonymous and comes from a non-existent email address. I wonder if this is the mindset of the spineless little people who cause deliberate and anonymous QRM to dxpeditions: QUOTE From: tufts68...@mypacks.net tufts68...@mypacks.net You arrogant bastard... P.S. I've worked in IT for 45 years, and fired dozens of arrogant a- like you. END-QUOTE (bad language deleted by me) I just love it when the reptiles come out from under their stones, don't you? Wouldn't you have thought he'd at least have the courage to put his name? Now you know who was probably sending a carrier and dits all day over BS7H. Happy New Year and Good DX to you all! OILy --- On Mon, 29/12/08, DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com wrote: From: DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld? To: dx-chat@njdxa.org, wn3...@verizon.net Cc: w1...@arrl.org Date: Monday, 29 December, 2008, 11:05 PM Oh, so notching is a new development, eh? Well it probably is if you're a dullard who works for a bunch of buffoons like IBM! Maybe if Ray Blair talked the the ham radio operators (who amazingly still have clout) he'd find that we amazingly still have more knowledge and intelligence than monkeys in blue suits like him cheers Dave G0OIL (PS I work in IT. It's always my pleasure to fire IBM consultants off site. And EDS. And Accenture. And Tata...) --- On Mon, 29/12/08, Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net wrote: From: Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net Subject: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld? To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Cc: w1...@arrl.org Date: Monday, 29 December, 2008, 7:59 PM Nice little article on Infoworld's site today, about the 10 most under-reported tech stories of 2008. Of interest to us is #6: BPL is Back from the Dead (see http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/12/29/53FE-tech-underreported-powerline_1.html ) Of note in the article is this paragraph: And another recent innovation, called notching, lets the chips switch frequencies when meeting interference. This upgrade should quiet the fears of ham radio operators (who amazingly enough have still have significant clout) and others that BPL will cause problems for various radio services, says Ray Blair, IBM's head of advanced networking. Who amazingly enough have still have significant clout ??? Never mind the bad English (don't they employ editors anymore? or proof readers?). I'm not sure if we should take that as an insult or a compliment. What do you think? 73 --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld?......and QRM.....
Hi Zack Sadly I fear that you're correct in every respect. In line with the old maxim In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king experience shows that people who are 99 percent ignorant but talk a good game market themselves as experts to those who are 100 percent ignorant. And of course the latter believe them. Not everyone in this world acts with honesty and integrity, let alone with knowledge. cheers Dave G0OIL --- On Tue, 30/12/08, Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com wrote: From: Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld?..and QRM. To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Tuesday, 30 December, 2008, 3:33 PM I still contend that IBM and others have no real RF engineers working for them. None of them seem to understand radio-frequency interference or near-channel effects on things such as noise floor. We studied all of that when I was in college in 1974 studying RF engineering. It's not new data, just neglected. And of course means extra cost to limit the RF noise. 73, Zack W9SZ On 12/30/08, DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi all On the QRM front, I've noticed a huge increase in RF noise from items like Christmas lights this year. Someone a couple of street away put some twinkling LED lights in his garden, purchased from Tesco (a large supermarket chain here in the UK). These fill 160 and 80m with a rasping noise over S9 and fill 20m with the same s9plus noise beaming in that direction. Clearly the wire to the lamps works like an antenna, transmitting diode hash and rubbish from the switched mode supply. Needless to say, they're cheap Chinese trash from the Ping Pong Poo Electrics Company (or whoever). Electrical gear that is sold in the EU is supposed to be tested and CE marked as compliant with standards, but enforcement of this is non-existent. Even big companies like BT (British Temecom) falsely and fraudulently stamp CE on their home networking devices which are staggeringly non-compliant with RFI standards. Anyway, this next bit is hilarious. I got this reply to my message laughing at IBM, presumably from someone on the DX-CHAT group. It's anonymous and comes from a non-existent email address. I wonder if this is the mindset of the spineless little people who cause deliberate and anonymous QRM to dxpeditions: QUOTE From: tufts68...@mypacks.net tufts68...@mypacks.net You arrogant bastard... P.S. I've worked in IT for 45 years, and fired dozens of arrogant a- like you. END-QUOTE (bad language deleted by me) I just love it when the reptiles come out from under their stones, don't you? Wouldn't you have thought he'd at least have the courage to put his name? Now you know who was probably sending a carrier and dits all day over BS7H. Happy New Year and Good DX to you all! OILy --- On Mon, 29/12/08, DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com wrote: From: DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld? To: dx-chat@njdxa.org, wn3...@verizon.net Cc: w1...@arrl.org Date: Monday, 29 December, 2008, 11:05 PM Oh, so notching is a new development, eh? Well it probably is if you're a dullard who works for a bunch of buffoons like IBM! Maybe if Ray Blair talked the the ham radio operators (who amazingly still have clout) he'd find that we amazingly still have more knowledge and intelligence than monkeys in blue suits like him cheers Dave G0OIL (PS I work in IT. It's always my pleasure to fire IBM consultants off site. And EDS. And Accenture. And Tata...) --- On Mon, 29/12/08, Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net wrote: From: Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net Subject: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld? To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Cc: w1...@arrl.org Date: Monday, 29 December, 2008, 7:59 PM Nice little article on Infoworld's site today, about the 10 most under-reported tech stories of 2008. Of interest to us is #6: BPL is Back from the Dead (see http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/12/29/53FE-tech-underreported-powerline_1.html ) Of note in the article is this paragraph: And another recent innovation, called notching, lets the chips switch frequencies when meeting interference. This upgrade should quiet the fears of ham radio operators (who amazingly enough have still have significant clout) and others that BPL will cause problems for various radio services, says Ray Blair, IBM's head of advanced networking. Who amazingly enough have still have significant clout ??? Never mind the bad English (don't they employ editors anymore? or proof readers?). I'm not sure if we should take that as an insult or a compliment. What do you think? 73 --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat
[DX-CHAT] Amateur engineering at its finest.....
http://www.ok1rr.com/news.php .and most impressive. Look at the photos and specs of the 3-element 160m beam and the 5-ele beam for 80m! Tower height 100m Boom lengths 60m 5 full size elements on 80m This makes my lowband wiggly-wire-in-a-tree look a bit pathetic! If you can't hear these guys you need a new receiver, I reckon. cheers Dave G0OIL --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Honor Roll
However, make the honor roll with 150 watts and a dipole.. Or do so from Northern Europe where signals are many dB down and openings are always shorter in than in Southern Europe. Also we have to break through the wall of Italians and their chaotic random-calling-till-doomsday-for-maximum-QRM technique in order to work anything. cheers D --- On Tue, 6/1/09, Urb LeJeune u...@w2dec.com wrote: From: Urb LeJeune u...@w2dec.com Subject: [DX-CHAT] Honor Roll To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Tuesday, 6 January, 2009, 10:06 PM Amen Dan!!! Nobody cares except the guys who achieved HR and 5BDXCC. Making the honor roll is like building a 3 BR Ranch House: given enough time and the proper tools, virtually anyone could do it. Upon completion, only family members will notice. However, make the honor roll with 150 watts and a dipole and you will bask in the sunshine of almost everyone. Urb, W2DEC --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island
..and has ask the big guns to hold off a bit. Now we know that will not happen in some parts of the world but the request may help some. I can see right now what's going to happen when they work Europe: When the operator says quite clearly for the fifth time Golf Nine Alpha Alpha Alpha five and nine, all the Italians will keep shouting their last two for ten minutes solid on the G9's frequency, overmodulating their 3kW amplifiers and without pausing for breath..even if they are in the log twelve times already. I hope I'm wrong, but experience suggests otherwise. These guys are all pretty good operators and you'll have propagation akin to a telephone line on most bands nearly 24 hours per day from where you live. Don't bother takin the time off work during the first week when the big guns will slug it out toe to toe, but you'll make it in the log easily enough during the second week. If you wait till the band's closed to Italy, anyway.Whiskey eight Tango Alpha Hotel five and nine..ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY KILO. If you're like me you concentrate on CW where there are fewer muppets cheers Dave G0OIL --- On Mon, 26/1/09, David Johnson jdav...@mindspring.com wrote: From: David Johnson jdav...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island To: w8tahra...@gmail.com, dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Monday, 26 January, 2009, 4:39 PM Hi Tim, First may I suggest that you go to the team web site www.kp5.us and read the latest press release. The team wishes to work folks like you with modest stations and has ask the big guns to hold off a bit. Now we know that will not happen in some parts of the world but the request may help some. The team will be there for 2 weeks with very good equipment and high power. I may suggest that you not get real anxious to work then in the first days. There is no doubt that they will be calling CQ toward the end of the dxpedition. 73 Good DX, Dave - Original Message - From: Tim Holmes To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:44 AM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island HI Folks: Just looking for some hints and tips I am an extra class (W8TAH). My station is VERY much a little pistol IC 706MKIIG barefoot 10-15-20 Rotateable Dipole at about 25 feet 135 Foot wire dipole - fed with window line at about 50 feet -- wiht LDG AT200 Pro tuner for 10 - 80 (160 is miserable) 3 Ele Cushcraft Yagi on 6 at about 30 feet I have worked a number of DXpeditions in the past, including the VERY EXCELLENT Ducie Island group last year -- I want to try to make contact with Descheo island this february, as well as improve my over all DXing. Right now in this economy, hardware upgrades are not much of an option -- so im looking for techniques and the like. can any one give me any good ideas Im located in EN91cd TIM -- Tim Holmes W8TAH - Amateur Extra Operator Medina County AEC Skywarn Advanced Storm Spotter Certified Certified Severe Weather Specialist StormNet Chase 9 --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island
I've had just one QSO with this one - and that was on 40m SSB with K3LP a few years ago. Did we ever find out who sabotaged that operation? I'm just hoping that the US Govt bureaucrats consider the operation a success so they can be persuaded to allow an operation from the last one I need: a KP1. I'm sure that it will be a great success, and wish all the best for the operators who are organising it - also great thanks for all their efforts in dealing with the FWS bureaucrats. Dave G0OIL --- On Mon, 26/1/09, Harris Ruben n2...@arrl.net wrote: From: Harris Ruben n2...@arrl.net Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island To: dx-chat List dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Monday, 26 January, 2009, 8:36 PM I have plenty of Q's (80 through 10) since I was licensed in the mid-1980s, but still need one for my favorite band -- 18 mHz. I'll be in there looking. My amp hasn't been hooked up for over 2 years, and I don't intend to do so now (I'll get it in line for P5, though). So, barefoot it is. See you all on 17 meters! harry N2ERN --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island
Hi Win, having driven in Italy I'd wholeheartedly agree. However you should try driving in India. The Indian driving test consists of ensuring that you can drive along in a straight line a few yards, and that you don't mow down too many market stalls and bullock carts when you steer around a corner. And that's it.. Oh, and that you can honk the horn. Even driving along empty roads at 3am everyone honks the horn. Trucks are brightly adorned with prayers in Hindi along with - in English - Please Sound Horn painted on the tailgate. I think it's just to ensure that all possible senses are used when driving. You need them. In India they nominally drive on the left.and I mean nominally. Particuarly at night, everyone (especially trucks) drives with their full beam on in the middle of the road playing a macabre game of chicken with oncoming traffic. It's even less safe to drive near the sidewalk or in the gutter as there'll probably be someone sleeping there, or maybe a cow sitting there. You drive straight through a red light if there's no policeman around - you'd have to bribe him with 20 Rupees (about 30c) if he saw you - and going through a green light you slow down and look carefully, honking your horn, just in case there's someone running the red light at 50mph the other way. On my first day in India (I lived for a while in Madras, now called Chennai) I got a tut-tut (a sort of motorcycle rickshaw) from the Taj Hotel to work and to my horror he drove straight across the traffic, the wrong way around a roundabout (a rotary to you Yanks) in the paths of oncoming buses and cars. I thought it was my eyesight at first, but the buses really were listing about 30 degrees to the left due to about a hundred people hanging off the side to avoid paying. .but depsite all this, no-one got aggravated, no-one got angry. Have you ever heard an Indian operate on the radio like an Italian? Me neither. After a while I got to know that rickshaw driver and outside the office where I worked we often talked over a samosa and a cup of that amazing South Indian coffee bought from street vendors. He and his family lived under a tarpaulin on the pavement. Yet his eight children looked as smart as the kids attending the most expensive private school in London, all in their uniform and with their books under their arms going to school. This guy was born with nothing, but he worked all day and half the night, spoke fluent English, German, French and Italian - yet spent everything on educating his children to give them a better start than he had. It was a salutory lesson in life and attitude to me, and a real eye opener. We put these exotic countries in the log, but to actcually travel to them and live there is a true life experience. I went miles off topic, but what the hell? cheers Dave G0OIL --- On Wed, 28/1/09, Win w...@winlyn.us wrote: From: Win w...@winlyn.us Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Wednesday, 28 January, 2009, 12:48 PM I think it is just a cultural thing. The Italians ham like they drive. Just kidding. Win, w0lz - Original Message - From: f5...@free.fr To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island Concerning the pile-up undiscipline, unfortunetly, I must admit that I fully agree. I do not know where this kind of radio behavior comes from, but it has nothing to do with any kind of HAM spirit. Strange... 73 de Nicolas F5FRM - Mail Original - De: DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com À: w8tahra...@gmail.com, dx-chat@njdxa.org, jdav...@mindspring.com Envoyé: Lundi 26 Janvier 2009 18:02:51 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne Objet: Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island ..and has ask the big guns to hold off a bit. Now we know that will not happen in some parts of the world but the request may help some. I can see right now what's going to happen when they work Europe: When the operator says quite clearly for the fifth time Golf Nine Alpha Alpha Alpha five and nine, all the Italians will keep shouting their last two for ten minutes solid on the G9's frequency, overmodulating their 3kW amplifiers and without pausing for breath..even if they are in the log twelve times already. I hope I'm wrong, but experience suggests otherwise. These guys are all pretty good operators and you'll have propagation akin to a telephone line on most bands nearly 24 hours per day from where you live. Don't bother takin the time off work during the first week when the big guns will slug it out toe to toe, but you'll make it in the log easily enough during the second week. If you wait till the band's closed to Italy, anyway.Whiskey eight Tango Alpha Hotel five and nine..ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY KILO. If you're like me you concentrate on CW where there are fewer muppets cheers Dave G0OIL
Re: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo 2009 baseball cap arrives!
David, I always saw you as more of a trilby (or perhaps a homberg) gent rather than a baseball cap guy. Still, at least it's not a Burberry baseball cap with a matching white shell suit (apologies to those who don't travel to UK cities - you'll miss the joke there) I too think that congratulations and many thanks should go to the Desecheo team. They did a wonderful job in persuading recalcitrant US Government pen-pushers to allow the operation, have shown that amateur radio enthusiasts can organise and behave responsibly where there's political sensitivity involved and have done a simply magnificent job of setting up the station, putting excellent signals out and handling the pileups. As I predicted on this forum a few weeks ago, the Italians (plus a few others) have performed true to type like monkeys at the zoo but the guys on the dxpedition handled them well. I hear on the grapevine that the FWS are to allow an operation from KH4 at some point this year, so let's hope that in view of the success of K5D they now agree that an operation from KP1 will be a good idea too. Operations along with FWS staff seem like a sensible compromise. Well done K5D! Fingers crossed for a safe journey home cheers Dave G0OIL --- On Wed, 25/2/09, David Rollitt da...@g3xyp.freeserve.co.uk wrote: From: David Rollitt da...@g3xyp.freeserve.co.uk Subject: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo 2009 baseball cap arrives! To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Wednesday, 25 February, 2009, 5:58 AM Hi Guys, Congratulations to the guys on Desecheo on reaching the massive 100,000 QSO's ... well done! I hope everyone has got their contacts in and is happy. Not many more hours to go but we do have a sunspot so maybe if you are still looking today will be better. I was lucky to get a CW QSO about 2 hours into the operation. My K5D baseball cap arrived yesterday and it's great, well made and clear printing, I am happy with it. So, go to the shop and order yours, help the expedition. Here as promised is my photo from yesterday on my Flickr page. http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidrollitt/3306650693/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidrollitt/2804191664/ a QSL from Desecheo http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidrollitt/ Keep looking for the dx, its out there somewhere. 73 David G3XYP --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
RE: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo.....more
OK I think that one's been done to death. We have some good ones in England: Bicester (Biss-ter) and Wymondham (Win-dum) to name but a couple. However, our friends in the land of leeks and daffodils have some rather better ones. Those who remember the late Denny GW3CDP will no doubt be familiar with the dialect. Try some of these.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/whatsinaname/sites/howdoisay/ Enjoy. cheers Dave G0OIL --- On Sat, 7/3/09, NA5U n...@att.net wrote: From: NA5U n...@att.net Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo To: 'dx-chat List' dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Saturday, 7 March, 2009, 2:25 AM I will confirm that locals and authorities pronounced that way. 73 es Gud DX Mike, NA5U From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Harris Ruben Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 1:50 PM To: dx-chat List Subject: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo MY Sister said... Without any written accent mark, I would pronounce it; De Se Che O All E's are pronounced like the first e in every All O's are pronounced like the o in the word Or Words without a written accent mark that end in a vowel or N or S are stressed on the next to last syllable. Words ending in a consonant except N or S are stressed on the last syllable. It's a pretty logical language. I reconfirmed this pronounciation with her. dessa CHAY oh The waY I pronounce it is IGOTTACARDYEARSAGO --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: 7O1YGF
My understanding is that Franz and Zorro had authorisation from the Aden office, not from Sana'a. Given the dubious authorisatoins that some people got away with, I'd always thohgh that the 7O1A guys got a bit of a raw deal. However, I'm not in a position to know about whatever games of politics were going on in the background. Cynics may say that if you want instant authorisation from ARRL, then take OH2BH or one of their other pals with you. But I'm not a cynic, of course... 73 Dave G0OIL --- On Thu, 13/8/09, John Warren n...@texas.net wrote: From: John Warren n...@texas.net Subject: [DX-CHAT] Re: 7O1YGF To: dx-chat dx-chat dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Thursday, 13 August, 2009, 7:01 PM On Aug 13, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Zack Widup W9SZ wrote: My understanding was that they had some documentation but it was thought that their license or OK to operate was issued by a regional authority - sort of like the state of Illinois issuing me a license instead of the FCC. That was more-or-less my understanding too Zack. Their operation was approved (in writing ?) by the office in Aden, but was subsequently disavowed by the head office in the capital Sana'a. Not wanting to burn its bridges for future amateur radio activities, ARRL/DXCC reluctantly supported Sana'a. However, I think there have been cases where ARRL accepted less than a national license - What about the scouts in 3V8 ? Perhaps one day Bill will feel free to tell us if we have that right. 7O1A, the operation by Franz DJ9ZB and Zorro, is the one that frustrates me. So far as I know, there is no geographic issue - they were there. But what sort of approval did they have? It's the only 7O I have worked on 40M SSB, and there doesn't seem to be any move toward it counting. John, NT5C. --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] the sad story of South Sudan - a new country after 2011?
Clip from today's Sunday Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/sudan/6034690/South-Sudan-faces-new-war-over-oil.html It seems that some things never change. I've frequently heard an argument that the worst thing that the old colonial powers did was to put Africans in charge of Africa. It's not an opinion that I hold (actually I think it was just done badly), but examples that spring to mind are the chaos and bloodshed in Rwanda, Burundi, Nigeria/Biafra, Ghana, Sudan, Sierra Leone, Angola, Somalia, Eritrea, Zaire, Western Sahara, Central African Republic etc ... and of course the biggest basket case of the all: Zimbabwe, once the bread basket of Africa and now what? It does make me wonder whether the current outbreak of troubles in Southern Sudan is just tribal squabbling. Conspiracy theorists (and those who know how China operates) may point the finger in their direction, particularly if there's oil and other mineral resuorce at stake. As we know, the Chinese have no morals when it comes to dealing anyone who'll sell them what they need at a knock-down price I wonder if the referendum of independence for South Sudan will really go ahead? One thing's for certain: It'll be a brave bunch of guys who mount a DXpedition there! food for thought, eh? cheers Dave G0OIL --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Warning-Get Ready
I think to be fair that the Telegraph is a British newspaper so reports from a British point of view. However. After the absence of any sensible energy policy for about the last 25 years, Britain will have plenty of blackouts coming, and not related to solar flares - merely due to lack of generation capacity. As recent governments have played the eco card and pursued the myth of wind, wave and solar energy and climate change they have neglected the core generating capacity that needs to sit behind them. Britain's generating capacity relies over-heavily on gas, the stocks of which are dwindling in the North Sea and which will soon have to be imported in large qualtities. This problem is exacerbated by lack of investment in infrastructure: we can store only a few days' worth of gas whereas many other EU countries can store weeks' worth. The green agenda pushed by politicians and other non-scientists has caused us to lose sight of energy security. Britain has huge coal stocks though lack of investment in (a) mining and (b) power stations to burn the stuff mean that we're in no position to use it. Many of our power stations are coming to the end of their lives, and nothing new is being built to replace them. Wind turbines cost more to build and maintain then they ever generate - they exists merely because of political pressure and due to the various subsidies (much of which are paid for by YOU via your gas/electricity bill, BTW) that HMG pays landowners to install them. Solar panels have a distinct limitation when you want power at 10pm on a Sunday night in January. I'd buy a diesel generator if I were you. They also come in useful for field day contests... Dave G0OIL (an Energy Sector professional) --- On Wed, 16/6/10, tom wylie thomaswy...@sky.com wrote: From: tom wylie thomaswy...@sky.com Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Warning-Get Ready To: bhw...@hughes.net, DX-CHAT dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Wednesday, 16 June, 2010, 8:17 What - only Britain? Thats not fair.. Tom GM4FDM Bill Hawkins wrote: Nasa warns solar flares from 'huge space storm' will cause devastation Britain could face widespread power blackouts and be left without critical communication signals for long periods of time, after the earth is hit by a once-in-a-generation “space storm”, Nasa has warned. *Senior space agency scientists believe the Earth will be hit with unprecedented levels of magnetic energy from solar flares after the Sun wakes “from a deep slumber” sometime around 2013. * ** Read the whole story here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7819201/Nasa-warns-solar-flares-from-huge-space-storm-will-cause-devastation.html. --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- -- I am fully aware that my youth has been spent That my get up and go - has got up and went But I really dont mind when I think with a grin of all the great places my get up has been! --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Warning-Get Ready
Hmm, I wondered when that might start. Just to point out before I say this: I think that Britain is an utterly worn-out, useless country, good at nothing apart from grand incompetence in just about every field. So please don't accuse me of flag-waving. Ever. Now we can't even beat the bloody Yanks at soccer. However: BP is no longer British Petroleum and is no longer a British company, It is now an international conglomerate and has been since the merger with Amoco. The drilling was being done by Halliburton on a rig owned by Transocean - and I don't think that either of those two have a connection with the mother country at all. I presume that the technology used and practices followed were the reponsibility of the authority who grants offshore licences in the GoM. That happens to be the United States Government. So frankly I'd lay responsibility at their door. Safety concerns about the blow-out prevention used by BP/Transocean have been raised here in the UK, so why isn't a regulator doing its job and laying down the law? Those old enough and familiar with the energy industry may remember a disaster in the North Sea in 1988: Piper Alpha. This killed 167 men. It was owned by Occidental - however I don't recall any anti-Amercian feeling at the time along the lines of the carefully-orchestrated anti-British feeling in the USA right now. There was just deep sadness for the families involved and a strong will at regulatory level to ensure that it never happened again. Having worked in the offshore industry myself, I can attest that absolutely everything changed after Piper Alpha, not least the attitude to safety versus cost-cutting. Having also seen the GoM offshore industry, I'm aware of some pretty gung-ho practices that go on there. I attended a survival and firefighting course in Aberdeen (mandatory before working in the UK offshore sector) and one of the lecturers was a Piper Alpha survivor. Apparently the rule on Piper Alpha was that if there was a fire the crew should go to the helideck to await rescue. This wasn't possible due to the 300-foot flames engulfing it. So the chap I met went to the accommodation block. I asked him why and his answer was because I didn't want to die alone. I worked in Aberdeen with a number of folks who'd lost family in Piper Alpha. Call me a bit sensitive on the subject but if I were you I'd pray for the families of the 11 blokes who died on the rig rather than making jokes about it. cheers Dave G0OIL --- On Wed, 16/6/10, w0...@aol.com w0...@aol.com wrote: From: w0...@aol.com w0...@aol.com Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Warning-Get Ready To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Wednesday, 16 June, 2010, 13:18 Dave may have overlooked that BP's oil from the colony shall be washing ashore in the mother country just in time for the Brit's need .. ;) WHAT THIS COUNTRY NEEDS ARE MORE UNEMPLOYED POLITICIANS In a message dated 6/16/2010 2:55:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time, mausop...@btinternet.com writes: I think to be fair that the Telegraph is a British newspaper so reports from a British point of view. However. After the absence of any sensible energy policy for about the last 25 years, Britain will have plenty of blackouts coming, and not related to solar flares - merely due to lack of generation capacity. As recent governments have played the eco card and pursued the myth of wind, wave and solar energy and climate change they have neglected the core generating capacity that needs to sit behind them. Britain's generating capacity relies over-heavily on gas, the stocks of which are dwindling in the North Sea and which will soon have to be imported in large qualtities. This problem is exacerbated by lack of investment in infrastructure: we can store only a few days' worth of gas whereas many other EU countries can store weeks' worth. The green agenda pushed by politicians and other non-scientists has caused us to lose sight of energy security. Britain has huge coal stocks though lack of investment in (a) mining and (b) power stations to burn the stuff mean that we're in no position to use it. Many of our power stations are coming to the end of their lives, and nothing new is being built to replace them. Wind turbines cost more to build and maintain then they ever generate - they exists merely because of political pressure and due to the various subsidies (much of which are paid for by YOU via your gas/electricity bill, BTW) that HMG pays landowners to install them. Solar panels have a distinct limitation when you want power at 10pm on a Sunday night in January. I'd buy a diesel generator if I were you. They also come in useful for field day
RE: [DX-CHAT] What to do?
The bloke at NASA issuing all the warnings isn't called Dr Nostradamus by any chance? I'd put up lots of vhf antennas. 2 meters DXCC perhaps? I have my own diesel generator so they can do what they like to the grid :-) I think it's just a plot to distract us in 2012 so we forget what a bloody waste of money the London Olympics will be. Dave G0OIL -Original Message- From: Bill Hawkins bhw...@hughes.net To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: 30/08/2010 13:02 Subject: [DX-CHAT] What to do? Should I take my antennas down or put more up? Bill W5EC Massive solar storm to hit Earth in 2012 with 'force of 100m bombs' Astronomers are predicting that a massive solar storm, much bigger in potential than the one that caused spectacular light shows on Earth earlier this month, is to strike our planet in 2012 with a force of 100 million hydrogen bombs. Several US media outlets have reported that NASA was warning the massive flare this month was just a precursor to a massive solar storm building that had the potential to wipe out the entire planet's power grid. --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
RE: [DX-CHAT] South Sudan
Take up gardening? Stamp collecting? Goat keeping? Graffiti painting? IOTA? It's not every day that a new one comes along so let's make the most of it. If it's no longer fun, do something else, Don. Dave G0OIL - Original Message - From: Don Berger dberger...@gmail.com Sent: 09 July 2011 22:25 To: jjreis...@gmail.com; ct1...@mail.telepac.pt Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] South Sudan This what I love so much about DXCC. I worked ST0 years ago and will have to waste the time doing it again on a bunch of bands. At some point, this becomes silly. Don/K1VSK - Original Message - From: Jim Reisert AD1C jjreis...@alum.mit.edu To: ct1...@mail.telepac.pt Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] South Sudan On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Aurelio Costa ct1...@mail.telepac.pt wrote: Can someone please give the latitude and longitude of this new country? It's not a new country yet. Coordinates are same as for deleted ST0 entity, or look up Southern Sudan on Wikipedia. -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
RE: [DX-CHAT] South Sudan
The one that makes me smile even after all these years is all things are relative, some more so. Priceless. Dave G0OIL - Original Message - From: Paul M Dunphy list...@ve1dx.net Sent: 10 July 2011 04:15 To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] South Sudan At 07:18 PM 7/9/2011, you wrote: I still have all the West /Coast DX Bulletins but couldn't find the reference to catching the same fish twice! 73 K1vsk I have them all, Don. All ~550 original issues, given to me by Cass when he was cleaning house ~2000-2001 or so. I also have a copy of the book Bernie describes. I don't think The Old Timer, any of the Local QRPers, or even Red-Eyed Louie and his cousin Sunspot Louie ever directly addressed the topic of catching the same fish twice. We were left to ponder the meaning of DX IS!, the Eternal Enigmas of DXing and the Mysteries of the Ages. Cass often said, If you have to ask the question, you probably won't understand the answer. After reading his material many times, and having numerous telephone conversations with WA6AUD, probably the closest advice I took away from Hugh Cassidy in situations like this was to emulate Lord Baden-Powell, the Hero of Mafeking, and Be Prepared! DX IS! Although for some more than others. 73, Paul VE1DX --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Statistically bad pileup behavior
That's an interesting mail, Jim. It regularly occurs to me that bad pileup behaviour seems to be statistically worse when there's propagation from the DXpedition to a certain part of Southern Europe (unfortunately about 23.9 hours per day all bands). I'm not suggesting that *all* people from this particular country are bad operators, nor that *all* exhibit the same symptoms of mental illness as IT9RYH does: consistently, belligerently and deliberately QRMing by calling CQ ad nauseam on DX frequencies but when I listen to my TX VFO it somehow always seems to be a signal from that part of the world calling constantly and making my QSO with the DX take about 15 times as long as it should do. It usually goes something like this: G0? 5NN IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ G0O? 5NN IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ G0O? 5NN IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ G0OI? 5NN IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ ...etc. And that's on the rare occasion that the Europeans aren't sending dits, carriers, UP UP UP on the DX TX frequency or telling each other in which part of their anatomies to insert their radios. Other variants are: QRZ JA? IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ... (repeat 100 times) and QRZ NA? IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ IK0IQ... (repeat 1000 times) I agree when people say that the worst-behaved operators are the Europeans but it has to be said that not *all* Europeans exhibit such porcine manners on the air... Dave G0OIL --- On Tue, 26/7/11, Jim Reisert AD1C jjreis...@alum.mit.edu wrote: From: Jim Reisert AD1C jjreis...@alum.mit.edu Subject: [DX-CHAT] Statistically bad pileup behavior To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Tuesday, 26 July, 2011, 3:53 It occurred to me today that pileup behavior is probably no worse for ST0R than it has been for any other major DXpedition. People say, oh it's so much worse than when the PJ's came on the air. Remember, there were four different new entities back then, and multiple DXpeditions to each one. If 1% of the people calling in any given pileup are bad operators (TX on the DX station's frequency, call non-stop, etc.), then the number of these people you would hear in any given pileup was divided by the number of DX station-bands they were spread out across. ST0R is only one station at an all-time new one, so EVERYONE must work the same station to get in the log. This means where there could have been, say, 300 stations calling in any given PJ pileup, maybe 3 of those would operate badly. Now put all those same stations into one ST0R pileup. You might have, say, 2000 callers, and if the ratios stay the same, now 20 of them are misbehaving. It's just numbers -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
RE: [DX-CHAT] Birds
I tried all sorts of things, starting with a plastic owl which worked for a while. You can get an audio bird-scarer and attachable rows of plastic spikes of the sort used on many railway stations and London Underground stations which are used to discourage the ubiquitous London pigeons. For me the problem isn't pigeons but starlings, particularly in the autumn when I think they migrate over from Scandinavia. I have no proof of this, though: they have no aircraft ID numbers and don't appear to squauk in Swedish :-) Often about 300 of them sit on the antennas chattering at each other. In the end I gave up. They don't seem to affect the antenna, don't seem to get fried by 400 English Watts (I never tried fried Starling but I can't imagine there's a lot of meat on them) and just ride on the antennas when I turn the beam. They don't seem to peck at coax. For the last few years families of blue tits have nested in the open ends of the booms on the 20m and 40m beams and collar doves on the Tic Ring rotor of the 15m beam. I just occastionally jetwash the guano off the patio and onto the flower bed. Perhaps it's just easier to live with them? Cheers Dave G0OIL (and about 500 avian friends) - Original Message - From: Mark Horowitz k...@hotmail.com Sent: 14 September 2011 22:24 To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] Birds Does anyone have a fairly good method of keeping birds off Yagis?. I am constantly having problems with birds. Any ideas would be appreaciated. Thanks, 73, Mark...K2AU...Fort Lauderdale, FL --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Antenna Analyzer
Hi John - try one of these http://www.rigexpert.com/index?s=aa54 an order of magnitude better than the MFJ Dave G0OIL - Original Message - From: jcowe...@comcast.net To: WWDXC Cc: DX Chat ; Towertalk Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 7:29 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Antenna Analyzer I need an antenna analyzer that provides impedance information. I have the predecesor to the MFJ-259B, and have been disappointed in it when the frequency of interest is near the band overlap areas of the various range segments. Works great mid range in those bands, but becomes unreliable near the edges of each band, and the overlap is not always sufficient to give reliable readings. I am considering the 259B, but fear the same kind of problems. Is there another instrument ouit there that isdesigned for ham radio, and not terribly expensive that you have experience with and feel is better than the 259B? Your response will be apprecaited. John Owens - N7TK Celebrating over 50 Years in Ham Radio No. 1 Honor Roll --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Up
It's astonishing (to me at least) that so few callers in pileups actually try to listen to the pileup and figure where the DX is listening. I thought the trick was as old as the hills: DX in the left ear, pileup in the right ear with a slightly wider filter, apply Human Ear Mk 1 to find where he's listening or at least learn to follow his pattern before giving a well-placed call. It's not hard, is it? We've all hit the wrong VFO button or forgot to hit split, but it amazes me how few people approach the task with intelligence. I'm not complaining: here in northern Europe we're always about 20-30dB below the spaghetti QRM machines, so long may they adopt the scattergun approach - it means that there's a chance for the rest of us Dave G0OIL - Original Message - From: Dave Gomberg da...@wcf.com To: DX Chat dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Up At 14:17 10/23/2011, Elmar PD3EM wrote: A lot of chances to work a DX or DX-pedition are ruined by hams that don't listen before they TX. Here's a mail I sent to my local club and NCDXC a few days after Pacificon: The reminder to LISTEN, LISTEN, LISTEN that I was given at Pacificon worked great for me this AM. T32C was on 40m SSB and had a pretty good pileup. 40m does not work well for me, I think it is a feed-line issue because my screwdriver tunes beautifully on all bands but 40m. Anyway, hearing the pileup made me think my best strategy was to listen, and I started to hear him complaining about his QSOs getting QRMed by other deserving calling and calling. Then he said, Give me a second, I am going to check around. He had been working simplex and I took this as a clue he was planning to start working split. So I set my radio to split and VFO A to his old frequency, and the mouse cross hairs (I run a flex3K) to VFO B. When he came back he said I am going to start working split, QSX 7180 and in 2-3 seconds I clicked on 7180 and hit the foot pedal, he came back as I was the only one that fast and I got him first call (can't use my amp on 40m, the SWR is too high). It was a delight and a triumph for LISTENING. Thank you all. -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE Programming since 1959 All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html - --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] What ever happened to FR5DX?
At least one went to prison. Are you talking about Roman Stepanenko? I think it was more a case of stolen credit card details and money laundering in that particular case (the usual Russian business). Last I heard he was awaiting trial. What happened? Dave G0OIL - Original Message - From: Jim Reisert AD1C jjreis...@alum.mit.edu To: DX CHAT dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] What ever happened to FR5DX? p.s. I don't know of anyone who has become rich on dollars and IRCs. At least one went to prison. He doesn't have to worry about mortgage payments and where his next meal is coming from. -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] What ever happened to FR5DX?
Maybe now we should write for all those QSLs that we never received. (a) he's got time to write them and (b) we know where to find him Dave G0OIL - Original Message - From: Barry w...@comcast.net To: Dx-Chat dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] What ever happened to FR5DX? Google Roman Vega and there's a bunch of info. For example: One of the first individuals to create a sustainable business model based on cybercrime was a certain Roman Vega of Ukraine, a.k.a. Roman Stepanenko, a.k.a. BOA (now known as inmate #59198-004 in the Federal Bureau of Prisons), who started a website called Boa Factory (http://www.boafactory.com) in the late 1990s. Boa Factory was a one-stop clearing house for buying and selling virtually all assets produced by financially-motivated online criminal activity of that time. One could get plastic cards, raw dumps (magnetic stripe data from bank and credit cards), traveler's checks and even counterfeit passports. Vega was eventually arrested while vacationing in Cyprus (a popular European destination for Russian and Ukrainian tourists) in June 2004, extradited to California and charged with a 40-count indictment of wire fraud and trafficking in stolen credit cards. Another indictment in New York for access device fraud and money laundering followed 2 years later and convictions eventually secured. Barry W2UP On 12/4/2011 7:33 AM, Zack Widup wrote: That's a good question about Romeo. It's been several years since I heard he was in jail for credit card fraud. If he's waited that long for a trial, something is really wrong. But I haven't heard anything about him since then so I don't know what the rest of the story was. 73, Zack W9SZOn 12/4/11, DAVE WHITEmausop...@btinternet.com wrote: At least one went to prison. Are you talking about Roman Stepanenko? I think it was more a case of stolen credit card details and money laundering in that particular case (the usual Russian business). Last I heard he was awaiting trial. What happened? Dave G0OIL - Original Message - From: Jim Reisert AD1Cjjreis...@alum.mit.edu To: DX CHATdx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] What ever happened to FR5DX?p.s. I don't know of anyone who has become rich on dollars and IRCs. At least one went to prison. He doesn't have to worry about mortgage payments and where his next meal is coming from. -- Jim Reisert AD1C,jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Lakewood, CO --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Leaderboards - good or bad?
That's exactly what I do, Zack Unless there's some organisational cock-up (on my part - I don't use a computer log) then I'll work a DXpedition if possible once on each band and once on each mode. I won't work them on a band/mode if I already have that one confirmed. The thought process is specifically one of if I work them on xxx and I don't need it then that's someone else who's not able to work them. The only time I'll make an exception is if the DXpedition is calling CQ and no-one is answering them I think that G7VJR raises a good point. The presence of an online log stops the temptation for insurance QSOs so in that sense it's good. The propagation tools are always useful if like me you work long hours and have to make use of small time slots for calling DX. But in truth I think that ill-mannered selfish pigs will always be ill-mannered selfish pigs and certain big gun DX Hogs (I could name them in G-land but of course won't) will trample over others, calling and calling and trying to work a Dxpedition on every band/slot whether or not there's a leader board online. After all, they''ve been behaving like that for years anyway... cheers Dave G0OIL - Original Message - From: Zack Widup To: dx-chat Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Leaderboards - good or bad? Someone has pointed out recently that for DXCC requirements, you could get by with 9 QSO's which would cover 160 through 10 meters. You only need one QSO each on CW, SSB and RTTY, so you could either fit them in amongst your 9 QSO's, or make a total of 11 QSO's to satisfy DXCC requirements. The Leaderboards seem to be the things that are inspiring people to make 27 QSO's with the DX. I'm sure some of these stations that are coming out on top of the leadeboards have worked some of these stations previously on some of those band/modes, so it becomes mostly a thing of greed and ego. 73, Zack W9SZ On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV w...@subich.com wrote: On 6/5/2012 4:39 PM, Ryan Jairam wrote: I don't really buy that argument. In the last days of a DXpedition, they're usually begging. You obviously did not attempt to work 7O6T on RTTY. The Europeans monopolized the few available RTTY band slots and even chased 7O6T off RTTY many times in the last days of the DXpedition. Quite simply, Leaderboards as currently structured encourage rampant DX Hoggery and have no place in radiosport. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/5/2012 4:39 PM, Ryan Jairam wrote: I don't really buy that argument. In the last days of a DXpedition, they're usually begging. Those who couldn't make a QSO probably couldn't make a QSO on a completely clear band anyway. There is only so much you can work with a dipole and 100 watts. And finally, DXing is competitive.You can be a good sport but you don't have to put yourself at a disadvantage to make others feel better. Ryan, N2RJ On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Joe Subich, W4TVw...@subich.com wrote: I think KQ8M's first comment in response to G7VJR's editorial is on point. Clublog's Leaderboards should be modified to stop counting at 11 band slots. 11 (or 12 if the operation works six meters) allows a station to work the operation on each band plus pick up QSOs on CW, Digital, and voice. Quite frankly, in spite of falling prey to the seduction of high leaderboard numbers a time or two myself, anyone who shows up with more than 14 or 15 band slots is simply a DX HOG. There is simply no excuse for such behavior. N1DG's presentation at Dayton clearly showed the DX HOGs do not provide increased support (contributions with QSL) relative to the number of band slots worked ... even the more QSOs mean more revenue argument falls flat. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/5/2012 2:54 PM, Paul M Dunphy wrote: G7VJR's point of view (ClubLog creator and T32C participant): http://g7vjr.org/2012/06/expedition-leaderboards-good-or-bad/ 73, Paul VE1DX --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat
Re: [DX-CHAT] Leaderboards and Tom's yardstick
Hi think that's a great way of looking at things, Tom I thought that the 7O6T guys did an amazing job before I saw your analysis, but I guess that figure really hammers home quite how incredible their QSO rate was. I bet they slept for a week when they got home. I suppose the counter argument to judging a DXpedition simply by number of QSOs is - as others have suggested - where those QSOs came from, hence the point from our friends across the Atlantic that the 7O6T team apparently didn't look to maximise band openings to North America (and elsewhere) - whereas Neville G3NUG told me that working the hard-to-work paths was specifically a goal of T32C, possibly partly (along with other factors) explaining the lower QSO rate As you say, it all depends on the objectives of the Dxpedition and as Benjamin Disraeli alluded, interpretation of statistics can be dangerous cheers Dave G0OIL - Original Message - From: Tom Wylie To: list...@ve1dx.net Cc: NJDXA DX Chat Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Leaderboards - good or bad? One of my personal yardstick of the goodness of an expedition is NOT the total number of QSOs made as that depends entirely on the number of operators, stations and the duration but I like to look at the TOTAL QSOs made by the NUMBER of OPERATORS and the NUMBER of DAYS taken into account Like: CallTotal QSOs No of Operators No of Days No of QSOs made per operator per day T32C2130063830186 D68C1685913220263 HK0NA 1952922727267 7O6T1620291715635 I guess it all depends on the objectives of the expedition work uniques?? work down to the third and fourth tier? max out the QSOs? etc etc. Its just my way of looking and comparing things Tom GM4FDM On 05/06/2012 19:54, Paul M Dunphy wrote: G7VJR's point of view (ClubLog creator and T32C participant): http://g7vjr.org/2012/06/expedition-leaderboards-good-or-bad/ 73, Paul VE1DX --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
RE: [DX-CHAT] Spotting Etiquette
Yes and no. Someone in London spotting that he can't hear the KH6 on topband at noon on a midsummer day is of course as much use as a chocolate teapot. But under some circumstances - for instance during disturbed conditions on the higher bands or when deep QSB is the order of the day I'll take any intelligence about propagation conditions that I can get (within reason). Anyway hopefully the rant did your blood pressure some good, Gerry. Sometimes it's good to let it all out and we'll gladly be of service by listening :-) Dave G0OIL - Original Message - From: GERRY telw...@telusplanet.net Sent: 07 June 2012 18:35 To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] Spotting Etiquette Spotting etiquette has bugged me for a long time so I thought I'd vent. I really don't understand why some folks want to tell us that they can't hear the DX where they are. I thought the purpose of DX SPOTTING was to tell us where (and by whom) the DX IS being heard. Imagine the traffic if everyone who didn't hear the DX reported it. I have my program set to tell me when the DX is being heard in NA and it's darn annoying to get an alarm and highlight from someone in BC (I use BC as an example not to offend other NA non-spotters) telling us he also can't hear the DX. FWiW 73, Gerry VE6LB/VA6XDX VE6 QSL Bureau Team DXCC Field Checker ve...@telus.net 403-251-0384 http://www.qsl.net/ve6lb [The entire original message is not included] --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
