[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. You know the one. Someone asks, Have you personally had experiences of enlightenment? And the TM TB says, We never discucss our experiences, with a big nudge, nudge, wink, wink, know what I mean, know what I mean? :-) I've never said that, of course, as Barry knows. What I've said (as he knows) is that *I* don't discuss my experiences *on demand* but rather when *I* feel like it. Obviously this trick worked for Judy when other TM teachers did it to her, so she's hoping it'll work when she does it here (despite her own words to the contrary that remain on the record). Not to the contrary, sorry. As Barry knows, I've never said that I would never have any spiritual experiences. In other words, folks, Barry is lying again. Jim has a somewhat more grownup approach to spiritual experience. When the subject comes up, he just describes his. He doesn't categorize them, he doesn't make a big deal about them, and he doesn't dwell on them. He doesn't play dueling experiences, suggest that his critics are criticizing him only because they haven't had any spiritual experiences, or demand that people describe their experiences or be labeled as never having had any, either. Jim isn't a phony like Barry. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. Anybody remember Barry, a few days ago, vowing that his ignoring me since mid-March was such a great success that he'd decided he was going to ignore me forever? Anybody remember my predicting that he wouldn't last more than a week or two when he first proposed his experiment here (first this time around, that is)? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. Anybody remember Barry, a few days ago, vowing that his ignoring me since mid-March was such a great success that he'd decided he was going to ignore me forever? Anybody notice that Judy is lying here about what I said? She must *really* be upset about being called on lying about her experiences if she's willing to lie about things that can actually be checked up on (in post #92710). :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [MDixon wrote:] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: heck, I didn't even get the picture! Who is it of? Is there web site where I can see it? Got it from the DrudgeReport. It's Georgia Representative and Democrat Cynthia McKinney. Interesting. I just looked at the Drudge Report. Here's the picture it has used most often in the stories it's linked to about the McKinney flap: http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=78068 Oddly enough, I couldn't find the photo Shemp posted in any of the Drudge Report stories. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] learn the truth about TM
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[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. Anybody remember Barry, a few days ago, vowing that his ignoring me since mid-March was such a great success that he'd decided he was going to ignore me forever? Anybody notice that Judy is lying here about what I said? Here's what Barry said: From my side, it's been so pleasant to *not* interface with her that I'm going to continue with this little experiment and continue to ignore her. She must *really* be upset about being called on lying about her experiences if she's willing to lie about things that can actually be checked up on (in post #92710). :-) Thanks to Barry for providing the number of the post in which he said what I said he said, so I could quote it. Of course, we all (including Barry) know, he has no basis whatsoever for suggesting I have lied about my experiences. So he's lied *again*. Total phony. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip Where does the real responsibility currently lie for the mess that every sector of the country is in? Careful, Jim. You don't want to get on Barry's list of people who argue about politics because they have no spiritual experiences to report. Ha Ha! Barry or you can put me on any list you want. From my previous perspective where I would notice and observe the contrast of spiritual experiences, I would say I am constantly having spiritual experiences these days. Most notably in my dreams, which have become very clear. I'll have a desire when I am awake, then act it out in my dream, and then it goes away when I am awake again. Also can't hold onto desires like I used to. Its just different. Lost my fear of death and dying too. Don't get me wrong- I am very happy being alive in this body and would like to continue this for awhile, but realize that death (such a strange word, eh?) isn't really any different than this, here. Also don't notice much difference between deep transcendence and right now. No big deal- its just that I used to crave a greater contrast in meditation and notice it. Now I don't. What's up with that? (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. You know the one. Someone asks, Have you personally had experiences of enlightenment? And the TM TB says, We never discucss our experiences, with a big nudge, nudge, wink, wink, know what I mean, know what I mean? :-) I certainly heard the we never discuss our experiences from TM TBers but I never, ever got the impression that there was an attitude of big nudge, nudge, wink, wink, know what I mean, know what I mean accompanying it. Be that as it may, if anyone wants a slew of wonderful experiences to read, then pick up pretty much any book by Swami Muktananda because he has no qualms about discussing his experiences which he does extensively in most of his books. I recommend Play of Consciousness as a starter... Obviously this trick worked for Judy when other TM teachers did it to her, so she's hoping it'll work when she does it here (despite her own words to the contrary that remain on the record). Jim has a somewhat more grownup approach to spiritual experience. When the subject comes up, he just describes his. He doesn't categorize them, he doesn't make a big deal about them, and he doesn't dwell on them. He just deals with the question -- honestly -- and moves on. It's a role model that someone who spends as much time posturing as an honest person as Judy does might want to pay more attention to. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Issue with 9/11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seen V for Vendetta? I've seen it and enjoyed it somewhat although it was very confusing. I really liked the premise which is: people shouldn't be afraid of their government; government should be afraid of its people. This could be, of course, the motto of the NRA and the founding fathers of the United States. +++Which way is it going- the government mistreating the people or, the people being fed up with the BS and finally doing something about it? N. Haven't seen it; but it's true; as people become more aware, and less afraid, there's no turning back; The immediacy of the internet also, helps to disperse the truth, and information, in a way, not available before. As well as the specific intension, of raising consciousness, by so many people throughout the world. All of these things working together are gathering the momentum, so that the old power structures are beginning to fall, under their own weight. There's a new book out, Battle Ready by General Zinni; http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/21/60minutes/main618896.shtml It outlines a shift in paradigm; and the outdated form of governance we currently have; That the old way just isn't working, is too cumbersome; moves too slow. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [MDixon wrote:] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: heck, I didn't even get the picture! Who is it of? Is there web site where I can see it? Got it from the DrudgeReport. It's Georgia Representative and Democrat Cynthia McKinney. Interesting. I just looked at the Drudge Report. Here's the picture it has used most often in the stories it's linked to about the McKinney flap: http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=78068 Oddly enough, I couldn't find the photo Shemp posted in any of the Drudge Report stories. They changed it several times during the day. I remember seeing at least three of them at different times. I tried going into their archive and although they catalogued each story during the day as it changed, they don't show the different photographs they used on the front page. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.truthabouttm.org//truth/Home/index.cfm I think Rick mentioned that Orme-Johnson sometimes visits this forum? If so, I have some advice for him: change the name of your website, Dave, because as soon as someone declares that they have the truth about something, I immediately become suspicious that, if anything, they DON'T have the truth about anything. It is quite presumtuous of anyone to declare that they have the truth about anything, no? Not that I have anything against what David is doing -- I assume I would agree with most if not all of what he's written (I haven't seen much of it except a cursory look at it). But if I were he, I would subscribe to the axiom: show don't tell. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Got it for you, Judy
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[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. Anybody remember Barry, a few days ago, vowing that his ignoring me since mid-March was such a great success that he'd decided he was going to ignore me forever? Anybody notice that Judy is lying here about what I said? Here's what Barry said: From my side, it's been so pleasant to *not* interface with her that I'm going to continue with this little experiment and continue to ignore her. Exactly. Does anyone see the word forever in that sentence? Does anyone even see it implied? Did anyone notice that Judy did *NOT* apologize for lying or making a misstatement? Not even when it was made apparent that's what she was doing? I *hoped* to ignore her. I still have that hope. But I knew even when I said what I did above that I would probably be unable to do so 100%. Judy is, after all, such a treasuretrove of bullshit that every so often one just *has* to comment on the bullshit. :-) Just as a contrast, since I posted that statement above, Judy has written 18 posts that specifically insulted me, called me a liar and other names, and did their level best *TO* draw me back into a head- to-head confrontation with her. I'd say I've done pretty well to have ignored her as much as I have done. :-) I stand by what I wrote. Judy *USED* to be more honest when it came to her own personal experiences with higher states of consciousness. She was down- right *OPEN* on a.m.t. about NEVER HAVING HAD ANY. But here, faced with an audience that *has* had such experiences, suddenly she's singing a different tune, and *IMPLYING* that she's had experiences that I think most of us here suspect she has not (or she wouldn't say so many stupid things about them). So I stand by my opinion -- she is intentionally LYING (by omission) about her range of subjective experience, and she knows she's lying about it. Now, having made my point, back to ignoring her. Judy really hates that...watch how many posts she makes in the next few days trashing me. The more I ignore her, the more posts she'll make to try to lure me back in to the head-to-head argumentation she lives for. (Just look at how many *other* posters on FFL she's lured into that kind of head-to-head confrontation in the time since I've been ignoring her...a junkie's gotta have her arguments.) Mark my words...I'll bet she makes at least 18 *more* posts insulting me within the next week. :-) :-) :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
Now that we have the Rich-Text Editor (Beta) feature, I think it's high time that Judy and Barry get to know each other. Why not have both of them post their photographs here? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. Anybody remember Barry, a few days ago, vowing that his ignoring me since mid-March was such a great success that he'd decided he was going to ignore me forever? Anybody notice that Judy is lying here about what I said? She must *really* be upset about being called on lying about her experiences if she's willing to lie about things that can actually be checked up on (in post #92710). :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [MDixon wrote:] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: heck, I didn't even get the picture! Who is it of? Is there web site where I can see it? Got it from the DrudgeReport. It's Georgia Representative and Democrat Cynthia McKinney. Interesting. I just looked at the Drudge Report. Here's the picture it has used most often in the stories it's linked to about the McKinney flap: http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=78068 Oddly enough, I couldn't find the photo Shemp posted in any of the Drudge Report stories. They changed it several times during the day. I remember seeing at least three of them at different times. I tried going into their archive and although they catalogued each story during the day as it changed, they don't show the different photographs they used on the front page. The one I linked to is pretty nice, huh? Wonder why they used a different one? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Got it for you, Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found a page within drudgereport.com that lists recent photos that Drudge puts on his home page and you'll see it there: http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/dsp/links_recap_picture.htm Yup, that's the one you posted. They don't have it in the regular archives, though. I think whoever described that photo as cherry picking had it just right. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that we have the Rich-Text Editor (Beta) feature, I think it's high time that Judy and Barry get to know each other. Why not have both of them post their photographs here? It's a lot like discussing one's spiritual experiences. When the subject comes up, some people just say what their experiences have been and don't make a big deal about the experiences one way or another. Others get all huffy and go out of their way to point out that they don't talk about their experiences on principle, just *SO* they can imply that they'd actually *HAD* a few such experiences. Similarly, when it comes to photos, some people just post them and others make a big deal about *not* posting them. My photo has been up in the Photos section pretty much the entire time I've been posting to FFL. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. Anybody remember Barry, a few days ago, vowing that his ignoring me since mid-March was such a great success that he'd decided he was going to ignore me forever? Anybody notice that Judy is lying here about what I said? Here's what Barry said: From my side, it's been so pleasant to *not* interface with her that I'm going to continue with this little experiment and continue to ignore her. Exactly. Does anyone see the word forever in that sentence? Does anyone even see it implied? Of course it's implied. You didn't qualify it in any way with, e.g., for a while, for the next month/year/decade. Did anyone notice that Judy did *NOT* apologize for lying or making a misstatement? Not even when it was made apparent that's what she was doing? Au contraire, dude. I *hoped* to ignore her. I still have that hope. Hope is not a plan. But I knew even when I said what I did above that I would probably be unable to do so 100%. Oddly enough, you didn't say that. You led folks to believe you'd kicked the habit for good. But your unqualified statement didn't even last a week--exactly as I predicted. Judy is, after all, such a treasuretrove of bullshit that every so often one just *has* to comment on the bullshit. :-) Just as a contrast, since I posted that statement above, Judy has written 18 posts that specifically insulted me, called me a liar and other names, and did their level best *TO* draw me back into a head- to-head confrontation with her. No, I just expressed my opinon, as I always have and always will. What Barry really means here is that he was sorely *tempted* to be drawn in. He didn't resist for very long, did he? I'd say I've done pretty well to have ignored her as much as I have done. :-) I stand by what I wrote. Judy *USED* to be more honest when it came to her own personal experiences with higher states of consciousness. She was down- right *OPEN* on a.m.t. about NEVER HAVING HAD ANY. I'll just point out again the absolute idiocy of assuming that what someone reports of their experiences at one particular point in time is somehow the absolute limit and that they will never experience anything more in the future. If somebody were to make such a suggestion to Barry, you'd hear his howls of scorn all the way to Vlodrop. But here, faced with an audience that *has* had such experiences, suddenly she's singing a different tune, and *IMPLYING* that she's had experiences that I think most of us here suspect she has not Most people here aren't phonies, Barry. You really need to bear that in mind when you attribute views to others. (or she wouldn't say so many stupid things about them). snicker Such as what? You must have some things in mind, Barry. Please cite them. So I stand by my opinion -- she is intentionally LYING (by omission) about her range of subjective experience, and she knows she's lying about it. Now, having made my point, back to ignoring her. Uh-huh. I give it two weeks, max. Every single time I've made such a prediction, it's been borne out. Judy really hates that...watch how many posts she makes in the next few days trashing me. The more I ignore her, the more posts she'll make to try to lure me back in to the head-to-head argumentation she lives for. No, I'll comment on your posts if and as I see fit, as I always have. Barry, you know this attempted intimidation tactic-- which you've used many times before--doesn't work with me. Just a reminder of the definition of insanity: doing the exact same thing over and over again in the hope that the result will be different. If you want me to stop criticizing your posts, there's one thing you can do that will actually be effective: stop being such a rank phony, and stop lying. (Just look at how many *other* posters on FFL she's lured into that kind of head-to-head confrontation in the time since I've been ignoring her...a junkie's gotta have her arguments.) Mark my words...I'll bet she makes at least 18 *more* posts insulting me within the next week. :-) :-) :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Now that we have the Rich-Text Editor (Beta) feature, I think it's high time that Judy and Barry get to know each other. Why not have both of them post their photographs here? It's a lot like discussing one's spiritual experiences. When the subject comes up, some people just say what their experiences have been and don't make a big deal about the experiences one way or another. Others get all huffy and go out of their way to point out that they don't talk about their experiences on principle, just *SO* they can imply that they'd actually *HAD* a few such experiences. Similarly, when it comes to photos, some people just post them and others make a big deal about *not* posting them. My photo has been up in the Photos section pretty much the entire time I've been posting to FFL. Some people don't feel the *need* either to boast about their experiences, or post their photos. It's an attachment thing, Barry. You'll probably grow out of it eventually. (Barry's still pissed because I did send some photos of myself when I was in college to a few people on alt.m.t, but I wouldn't send them to him.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [MDixon wrote:] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: heck, I didn't even get the picture! Who is it of? Is there web site where I can see it? Got it from the DrudgeReport. It's Georgia Representative and Democrat Cynthia McKinney. Interesting. I just looked at the Drudge Report. Here's the picture it has used most often in the stories it's linked to about the McKinney flap: http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=78068 Oddly enough, I couldn't find the photo Shemp posted in any of the Drudge Report stories. They changed it several times during the day. I remember seeing at least three of them at different times. I tried going into their archive and although they catalogued each story during the day as it changed, they don't show the different photographs they used on the front page. The one I linked to is pretty nice, huh? Wonder why they used a different one? I don't think Drudge likes her, so he used the most unflattering one. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Now that we have the Rich-Text Editor (Beta) feature, I think it's high time that Judy and Barry get to know each other. Why not have both of them post their photographs here? It's a lot like discussing one's spiritual experiences. When the subject comes up, some people just say what their experiences have been and don't make a big deal about the experiences one way or another. Others get all huffy and go out of their way to point out that they don't talk about their experiences on principle, just *SO* they can imply that they'd actually *HAD* a few such experiences. Similarly, when it comes to photos, some people just post them and others make a big deal about *not* posting them. My photo has been up in the Photos section pretty much the entire time I've been posting to FFL. Under turquoiseB there is no photo. We can't hand-hold you through your *entire* life, Shemp. Keep working at it...I'm sure you'll figure it out sooner or later... :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
Title: ‘World Capital of Peace’ arrives in north Kansas 'World Capital of Peace' arrives in north Kansas Transcendental meditation, organic farming will be emphasis of $14 million complex By George Diepenbrock Tuesday, April 4, 2006 Smith Center — Followers of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi have acquired 480 acres here near the exact geographical center of the continental United States. Last week they broke ground on a planned $14 million complex they are calling the World Capital of Peace. Among other things, the planners say, it will be a haven for transcendental meditation and organic farming. The arrival of the Maharishi's followers and their plans to build is a very big deal in this town where little else has happened lately on the economic front. Or as Mayor Randy Archer put it, "With a population of 1,800 and the oldest population in Kansas, we don't have much going for us." Archer said he attended the ground breaking for the World Capital of Peace last week. "I'm glad I went because the rumors are it's a cult and they are going to make underground bunkers and build nuclear weapons. That's not what they are about," he said. Beatles were disciples The Maharishi is perhaps best known as the founder of the transcendental meditation movement and for some of his celebrity disciples, which over the years included the Beatles and Mike Love of the Beach Boys. Smith Center, near the Nebraska border in central Kansas, is perhaps best known for being near the precise center of the lower 48 states and as the birthplace of silent film star Fatty Arbuckle. The Maharishi-affiliated groups at work in Smith Center are two nonprofit organizations, the U.S. Peace Government and the Global Country of World Peace. They are unusual groups by Smith Center standards and some people are understandably concerned about what the newcomers will be up to, despite the expected influx of dollars associated with the project. Water scarce "A lot of people are pro, and a lot of people are con. A lot of people think it will bring a lot of business to town," said Lynn Pickel, owner of Second Cup Cafe and Pastries on Main Street. "My policy is to stay out of it as a business owner. The water issue, as far as I know, is the biggest they are up against." Water is relatively scarce in Smith County, and there is concern there might not be enough to support the planned World Capital of Peace. Kent Boyum, an ecologist and the director of government relations for the Global Country of World Peace, said the groups aim to be good neighbors. "It's not a closed community that won't let anybody else be a part of what we are doing," Boyum said of the World Peace Capital. Smith County was chosen, he said, because it is in the middle of quiet, rural America. He said the organization intends to build "Peace Palaces," which would be single buildings, across the Midwest with plans to build in Lawrence and the Kansas City area. On the Smith Center property, 12 to 15 buildings are planned and those who live in the community will focus on practicing transcendental meditation and organic farming. Each building will be about 12,000 square feet, Boyum said, and will including living quarters and meeting space. The site will also be open to tourists. $14 million project The president of the U.S. Peace Government is John Hagelin, a quantum physicist and a fringe U.S. presidential candidate in 1996 and 2000. He has said the U.S. Peace Government is meant to complement rather than replace the existing government and aims to "promote prevention-oriented, problem-free administration." Boyum said all types of people are drawn to transcendental meditation. "The people who practice are all kinds of people- all shapes, all colors. Some have religion. Some don't," Boyum said. "It isn't an absolute way of life. Some people just add to their normal way of life and have less stress," Boyum said the buildings for the World Capital of Peace will mostly be built in a factory and then erected on the site. He estimated the project's cost at about $14 million, and said the groups are working with engineers in Salina to develop the land and the rural water district there. As residents have learned more about the project, Archer said about "95 percent" of the people in Smith Center he has talked with seem to be for it. "I really felt good about it. I think they will blend and mesh with the community and the county. But any time a change comes in, usually it's scary," Archer said. "They are professional" "There's so many rumors floating around that are really pretty laughable," said Charles Sellens, an administrative assistant for the Smith County Commissioners. "I feel very positive about it. The thought of people coming in and spending money is very positive. "They not only sound professional. They are professional," Sellens said. "There's some feeling that a lot of them would be moving in and out. The people, their
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Trip to India!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/2/06 10:16 AM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 4/1/06 7:28 AM, medwards520 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We did meditate in front of the cosmic beings, Who are the cosmic beings? Didn't you post photos some time ago with the 'golden balls'? I did, but it was just something someone had sent me. I didn't know what they were. Sure. You also forwarded this: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/61684 Everyday the participants are taken to Anandaloka 1 where 9 Divine Beings, who are most part of the day inShamadhi or in meditation, and each of them are diferent Divine Beings that once walked or not among the Earth, in diferent yugas... They are living at Amma's and Bhagavan's Huts. So the participants are taken there every day to meditate in their presence, and and there they are given the Divine Golden Ball ... There is something else about this fact.. there is an empty chair,... that is occupied by the astral body of a siddha yogui, who lived in the mountains around more than 500 years ago... He has been seen by the Divine Beings , and by Bhagavan and he wants to help to this Dharma, and Humanity, and to Honour him they have put him a chair, because he said that he would come at Dharshan's time to also give us Deeksha. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as Mayor Randy Archer put it, ... I'm glad I went because the rumors are it's a cult and they are going to make underground bunkers and build nuclear weapons. That's not what they are about, he said. Absolutely not. That would be contrary to Sthapatya Veda principles. The buildings where they will construct the nuclear weapons will be all be aboveground, will have only East- or North-facing entrances, and will have a cute little garden/atrium thingy in the middle so that the cultists can sit around and sip tea when they're not working on the nukes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. Anybody remember Barry, a few days ago, vowing that his ignoring me since mid-March was such a great success that he'd decided he was going to ignore me forever? Anybody notice that Judy is lying here about what I said? She must *really* be upset about being called on lying about her experiences if she's willing to lie about things that can actually be checked up on (in post #92710). :-) Message 92710:] [...] From my side, it's been so pleasant to *not* interface with her that I'm going to continue with this little experiment and continue to ignore her. [...] If attacking me is what she needs to get herself off, so be it. But just as she has been doing for the last two weeks, she will be doing it in the future without my participation. I hope that this will make the mastur- batory nature of her obsession even more apparent. :-) Over and out... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. Anybody remember Barry, a few days ago, vowing that his ignoring me since mid-March was such a great success that he'd decided he was going to ignore me forever? Anybody notice that Judy is lying here about what I said? Here's what Barry said: From my side, it's been so pleasant to *not* interface with her that I'm going to continue with this little experiment and continue to ignore her. Exactly. Does anyone see the word forever in that sentence? Does anyone even see it implied? Well, yeah, at the bottom of what you wrote: If attacking me is what she needs to get herself off, so be it. But just as she has been doing for the last two weeks, she will be doing it in the future without my participation. I hope that this will make the mastur- batory nature of her obsession even more apparent. :-) Over and out... I'm thinking of setting up a website for donations for the Barry Bonks Judy encounter. Anyone interested in hosting it? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] updated lynchweekend replays
More video selections from the weekend seminar with David Lynch, including the Donovan concert! (and apparently his QA) and more Q A with Mr. Lynch, not to mention John Hagelin and lesser TM luminaries. http://lynchweekend.org/replays.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest george.deforest@ wrote: as Mayor Randy Archer put it, ... I'm glad I went because the rumors are it's a cult and they are going to make underground bunkers and build nuclear weapons. That's not what they are about, he said. Absolutely not. That would be contrary to Sthapatya Veda principles. The buildings where they will construct the nuclear weapons will be all be aboveground, will have only East- or North-facing entrances, and will have a cute little garden/atrium thingy in the middle so that the cultists can sit around and sip tea when they're not working on the nukes. I am wondering what will happen to all the Vatsu correctly oriented buildings in case of the predicted (kalki, 2012) polar shift. Then all of New Geneva, and New New York has to be redone. Maybe we should just wait, and rebuilt after the shift? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking of setting up a website for donations for the Barry Bonks Judy encounter. Anyone interested in hosting it? Some people *really* need to get a life of their own. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking of setting up a website for donations for the Barry Bonks Judy encounter. Anyone interested in hosting it? This from the guy who says he hasn't gotten laid in years, possibly decades? Some people *really* need to get a life of their own. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:10 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.truthabouttm.org//truth/Home/index.cfmI think Rick mentioned that Orme-Johnson sometimes visits this forum?If so, I have some advice for him: change the name of your website, Dave, because as soon as someone declares that they have "the truth" about something, I immediately become suspicious that, if anything, they DON'T have the truth about anything.It is quite presumtuous of anyone to declare that they have "the truth" about anything, no?Not that I have anything against what David is doing -- I assume I would agree with most if not all of what he's written (I haven't seen much of it except a cursory look at it). But if I were he, I would subscribe to the axiom: show don't tell.Exactly. It's the spin on TM...as always, backed by their dubious, self-promoting research. I put it right up there with oil companies research on global climate and tobacco companies research on cigarette addiction... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest george.deforest@ wrote: as Mayor Randy Archer put it, ... I'm glad I went because the rumors are it's a cult and they are going to make underground bunkers and build nuclear weapons. That's not what they are about, he said. Absolutely not. That would be contrary to Sthapatya Veda principles. The buildings where they will construct the nuclear weapons will be all be aboveground, will have only East- or North-facing entrances, and will have a cute little garden/atrium thingy in the middle so that the cultists can sit around and sip tea when they're not working on the nukes. I am wondering what will happen to all the Vatsu correctly oriented buildings in case of the predicted (kalki, 2012) polar shift. Then all of New Geneva, and New New York has to be redone. Maybe we should just wait, and rebuilt after the shift? You've just demonstrated why Maharishi led the field in the cult leaders who have made the most money article that was posted here not long ago. Lesser gurus would see it your way and wait. Maharishi would charge the suckers to rebuild those cities the first time, and then charge the same suckers *again* to rebuild the same cities the second time. In fact, he'd probably find a way to charge them for tearing down the version he rebuilt the first time, *in addition to* charging them for rebuilding it the second time. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Juggling trivia for Spare Egg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Just saw a juggler on Tucker Carlson and he said that juggling used to be an Olympic Sport but was taken out in the 1936 Games in Berlin. The form of juggling was called Indian Clubs, which isn't like modern club juggling that everyone thinks of. It was a sport that involved taking 1 or 2 rather heavy bowling pin-like clubs and swinging them in elaborate patterns, much like the rythmic gymnists do today but there was little or no tossing of the clubs -- you had to keep hold of both of them at all times. At the extreme end of this sport, circus strongmen would swing weighted clubs weighing 30+ pounds in various patterns and challenge the audience to do the same. There are a few proponents left from what I have read, and I believe someone has recently published an instructional DVD. +++ Thanks SE, that post brought up some old memories- My uncle was an area champion and, I still have a set that my father made long ago. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
Let's see how the TMO gets out of the MUM campus murder lawsuits I guess that David O.J. would not count settling out of court as counting against the TMO. Indedependent website, my ass. Someone told him to do it, you can be sure..Maybe to get back into the fold, because, after all, he and Rhoda were suddenly kicked out of Fairfield as were Lenny and Leslie Goldman. What happened there? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:10 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: http://www.truthabouttm.org//truth/Home/index.cfm I think Rick mentioned that Orme-Johnson sometimes visits this forum? If so, I have some advice for him: change the name of your website, Dave, because as soon as someone declares that they have the truth about something, I immediately become suspicious that, if anything, they DON'T have the truth about anything. It is quite presumtuous of anyone to declare that they have the truth about anything, no? Not that I have anything against what David is doing -- I assume I would agree with most if not all of what he's written (I haven't seen much of it except a cursory look at it). But if I were he, I would subscribe to the axiom: show don't tell. Exactly. It's the spin on TM...as always, backed by their dubious, self-promoting research. I put it right up there with oil companies research on global climate and tobacco companies research on cigarette addiction... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Juggling trivia for Spare Egg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Just saw a juggler on Tucker Carlson and he said that juggling used to be an Olympic Sport but was taken out in the 1936 Games in Berlin. The form of juggling was called Indian Clubs, which isn't like modern club juggling that everyone thinks of. It was a sport that involved taking 1 or 2 rather heavy bowling pin-like clubs and swinging them in elaborate patterns, much like the rythmic gymnists do today but there was little or no tossing of the clubs -- you had to keep hold of both of them at all times. At the extreme end of this sport, circus strongmen would swing weighted clubs weighing 30+ pounds in various patterns and challenge the audience to do the same. There are a few proponents left from what I have read, and I believe someone has recently published an instructional DVD. +++ Thanks SE, that post brought up some old memories- My uncle was an area champion and, I still have a set that my father made long ago. Wow. You're the first person I've met who has first-hand knowledge of it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking of setting up a website for donations for the Barry Bonks Judy encounter. Anyone interested in hosting it? This from the guy who says he hasn't gotten laid in years, possibly decades? Some people *really* need to get a life of their own and stop living vicariously. :-) Besides, I am far too Buddhist to ever consider doing what you suggest...necrophilia is a big no-no. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bmorry2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's see how the TMO gets out of the MUM campus murder lawsuits I guess that David O.J. would not count settling out of court as counting against the TMO. Indedependent website, my ass. Someone told him to do it, you can be sure..Maybe to get back into the fold, because, after all, he and Rhoda were suddenly kicked out of Fairfield as were Lenny and Leslie Goldman. What happened there? So, they were kicked out rather than he retired after 30 years? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
I know this is something people often say, but I can't say I agree with it. In work and relationships, I've often continued to do the same thing over and over, and over time I've got very different results. Persistence pays off. As Blake put it, If the fool would persist in his folly, he would become wise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a reminder of the definition of insanity: doing the exact same thing over and over again in the hope that the result will be different. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: I'm thinking of setting up a website for donations for the Barry Bonks Judy encounter. Anyone interested in hosting it? This from the guy who says he hasn't gotten laid in years, possibly decades? Some people *really* need to get a life of their own and stop living vicariously. :-) You're just jealous. Besides, I am far too Buddhist to ever consider doing what you suggest...necrophilia is a big no-no. But indulging in constant criticism of other people is living the life of a saint... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Juggling trivia for Spare Egg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Just saw a juggler on Tucker Carlson and he said that juggling used to be an Olympic Sport but was taken out in the 1936 Games in Berlin. The form of juggling was called Indian Clubs, which isn't like modern club juggling that everyone thinks of. It was a sport that involved taking 1 or 2 rather heavy bowling pin-like clubs and swinging them in elaborate patterns, much like the rythmic gymnists do today but there was little or no tossing of the clubs -- you had to keep hold of both of them at all times. At the extreme end of this sport, circus strongmen would swing weighted clubs weighing 30+ pounds in various patterns and challenge the audience to do the same. There are a few proponents left from what I have read, and I believe someone has recently published an instructional DVD. +++ Thanks SE, that post brought up some old memories- My uncle was an area champion and, I still have a set that my father made long ago. Interesting bit of trivia I didn't know til I looked it up just now: toss club jugging grew out of Indian Club swinging and was invented not more than 120 years ago or so by a guy named DeWitt Cook. Here's a URL of club swinging books and articles: http://www.semlyen.net/cosmosjugglers/lib/bibcs.htm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Issue with 9/11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seen V for Vendetta? +++Which way is it going- the government mistreating the people or, the people being fed up with the BS and finally doing something about it? N. Haven't seen it; but it's true; as people become more aware, and less afraid, there's no turning back; The immediacy of the internet also, helps to disperse the truth, and information, in a way, not available before. As well as the specific intension, of raising consciousness, by so many people throughout the world. All of these things working together are gathering the momentum, so that the old power structures are beginning to fall, under their own weight. There's a new book out, Battle Ready by General Zinni; http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/21/60minutes/main618896.shtml It outlines a shift in paradigm; and the outdated form of governance we currently have; That the old way just isn't working, is too cumbersome; moves too slow. I saw Tim Russert interviewing General Zinni on Meet the Press on Sunday- Great man- Absolutely clear and fearless. Tells the truth unflichingly. Very impressed with him. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Besides, I am far too Buddhist to ever consider doing what you suggest...necrophilia is a big no-no. But indulging in constant criticism of other people is living the life of a saint... No, no, gotta be a big phony and tell lies too. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Juggling trivia for Spare Egg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Here's a URL of club swinging books and articles: http://www.semlyen.net/cosmosjugglers/lib/bibcs.htm I clicked on the first link on that page and got another page with a buncha illustrations. Those suckers were *big*!! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The one I linked to is pretty nice, huh? Wonder why they used a different one? I don't think Drudge likes her, so he used the most unflattering one. She's really a very attractive woman. She's also wonderfully vivacious and extremely articulate in the interviews I've seen. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 4, 2006, at 9:24 AM, bmorry2000 wrote: Let's see how the TMO gets out of the MUM campus murder lawsuits I guess that David O.J. would not count settling out of court as counting against the TMO. Indedependent website, my ass. Someone told him to do it, you can be sure..Maybe to get back into the fold, because, after all, he and Rhoda were suddenly kicked out of Fairfield as were Lenny and Leslie Goldman. What happened there? Accidentally introduced effort into their mantra usage and then told someone? I heard it was because they defiantly faced West in a South facing doorway, or was it the other way round? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:10 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: http://www.truthabouttm.org//truth/Home/index.cfm I think Rick mentioned that Orme-Johnson sometimes visits this forum? If so, I have some advice for him: change the name of your website, Dave, because as soon as someone declares that they have the truth about something, I immediately become suspicious that, if anything, they DON'T have the truth about anything. It is quite presumtuous of anyone to declare that they have the truth about anything, no? Not that I have anything against what David is doing -- I assume I would agree with most if not all of what he's written (I haven't seen much of it except a cursory look at it). But if I were he, I would subscribe to the axiom: show don't tell. Exactly. It's the spin on TM...as always, backed by their dubious, self-promoting research. I put it right up there with oil companies research on global climate and tobacco companies research on cigarette addiction... The watercolor paintings he has done on his website are quite good- A very very difficult medium to master. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Besides, I am far too Buddhist to ever consider doing what you suggest...necrophilia is a big no-no. But indulging in constant criticism of other people is living the life of a saint... No, no, gotta be a big phony and tell lies too. OK...that's it, Judy-- You are definitely going on THE LIST! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest george.deforest@ wrote: as Mayor Randy Archer put it, ... I'm glad I went because the rumors are it's a cult and they are going to make underground bunkers and build nuclear weapons. That's not what they are about, he said. Absolutely not. That would be contrary to Sthapatya Veda principles. The buildings where they will construct the nuclear weapons will be all be aboveground, will have only East- or North-facing entrances, and will have a cute little garden/atrium thingy in the middle so that the cultists can sit around and sip tea when they're not working on the nukes. I am wondering what will happen to all the Vatsu correctly oriented buildings in case of the predicted (kalki, 2012) polar shift. Then all of New Geneva, and New New York has to be redone. Maybe we should just wait, and rebuilt after the shift? You've just demonstrated why Maharishi led the field in the cult leaders who have made the most money article that was posted here not long ago. Lesser gurus would see it your way and wait. Maharishi would charge the suckers to rebuild those cities the first time, and then charge the same suckers *again* to rebuild the same cities the second time. In fact, he'd probably find a way to charge them for tearing down the version he rebuilt the first time, *in addition to* charging them for rebuilding it the second time. :-) Yeah, but would you say that to his face? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You've just demonstrated why Maharishi led the field in the cult leaders who have made the most money article that was posted here not long ago. Lesser gurus would see it your way and wait. Maharishi would charge the suckers to rebuild those cities the first time, and then charge the same suckers *again* to rebuild the same cities the second time. In fact, he'd probably find a way to charge them for tearing down the version he rebuilt the first time, *in addition to* charging them for rebuilding it the second time. :-) Yeah, but would you say that to his face? Of course. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: In my understanding Shrii Shankara is thought to have been born somewhere in the southern parts of India. Kerala If that's the case, I wonder how likely it is that his native language was one of the Dravidian languages of southern India. http://www.ancientscripts.com/grantha.html ? (Depends on the time you assume he lived) I've always wondered why the first Shankara would be called the original one WHILE he was alive, but who knows... Why would you presume that he was called Adi Shankara while he walked the earth? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?
In a message dated 4/3/06 4:40:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: my understanding Shrii Shankara is thought to have been born somewhere in the southern parts of India. If that's the case, I wonder how likely it is that his native language was one of the Dravidian languages of southern India. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ebonics? Foolish thinking. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
On Apr 4, 2006, at 11:16 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:10 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" stephen4359@ wrote: http://www.truthabouttm.org//truth/Home/index.cfm I think Rick mentioned that Orme-Johnson sometimes visits this forum? If so, I have some advice for him: change the name of your website, Dave, because as soon as someone declares that they have "the truth" about something, I immediately become suspicious that, if anything, they DON'T have the truth about anything. It is quite presumtuous of anyone to declare that they have "the truth" about anything, no? Not that I have anything against what David is doing -- I assume I would agree with most if not all of what he's written (I haven't seen much of it except a cursory look at it). But if I were he, I would subscribe to the axiom: show don't tell. Exactly. It's the spin on TM...as always, backed by their dubious, self-promoting research. I put it right up there with oil companies research on global climate and tobacco companies research on cigarette addiction...The watercolor paintings he has done on his website are quite good- A very very difficult medium to master.Are you suggesting that TM helps in the mastering the intricacies of watercolor technique? :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my understanding Shrii Shankara is thought to have been born somewhere in the southern parts of India. If that's the case, I wonder how likely it is that his native language was one of the Dravidian languages of southern India. As Lord Siva incarnate mastering the Vedas by age 3, maybe his native tongue was the sound of Veda. If this is the case what language would be unknown to him? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
Have you heard of the great Indian Goof-Up, prior to the Chinese invasion of Tibet.? There was a lot of Speculation that China might invade Tibet. So the Indian Strategists want didn't want to offend China, sent a Cleverly worded message to the indian Ambasador stating that he should convey the mesage to China, "India recognises China's Suzerainity over Tibet." The Indian Ambasador in Beijing misunderstood the message. He made a public announcement that, "India recognises China's Sovereignty over Tibet.!" The next day China marched into Tibet. ShempMcGurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 22:17:57 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]I don't mean to "blame the victim" but the Dalai Lama, I believe, is contributorily negligent in the holocaust that befell his people because:1) had he known his history -- and most certainly recent history -- he would have known the coming disaster that living next to communists would mean and he could have taken or at least attempted to take remedial action...such as: allying himself with America (which he tried to do at the last minute but was too late) or arming his people.2) he actually played footsies with Mao and actually thought that communism had parallels with Tibetan Buddhism and that they were to some degree compatible and that he could live with the communists. Big fat fucking mistake.3) his misinterpretation and bastardization of the concept of non-violence directly led to his inability to adequately protect his people, their culture and their religion.4) If he truly believed in non-violence as he claimed he did, why in heaven's name did he in fact attempt to garner the favor of America when the impending doom of Chinese Communist horror was imminent? Clue: the USA had the atomic bomb. Now, that's not very non-violent of him, is it? Five years of Indo-Chinese friendship ended when Dalai Lama came to India. China wanted Dalai Lama back, but India refused. The 1962 war, in the words of the Chinese Leadership, was "To Teach India a Lesson." In the 1950's, indian generals did warn that the North-East defence was weak, but the Indian government under Nehru did not take it seriously. In 1962, Chinese came down the Mountains with their Guns blazing and it sent india into a blue funk. India was growing very fast at that time. I think India lost about 10 years of progress because of that war. Smarting under that 1962 defeat, Indian intelligence agency and the American intelligence CIA, got together and created a Indo-Tibetean border force, a secret espionage group consisting of Tibetean exiles. They sneaked into Tibet and gathered information and brought it back to indians and Americans. Even Chinese military bases were bugged and tapped by the CIA with the help of this force. But the real deal was the planting of a secret Nuclear-Spy device in the Nanda-Devi peak in the Hmalayas to evesdrop on the Chinese communication and monitor Missile launches etc. The device did a brilliant job. Relations between India and America soured in 1971. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
on 4/4/06 2:10 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.truthabouttm.org//truth/Home/index.cfm I think Rick mentioned that Orme-Johnson sometimes visits this forum? I forwarded your post to him. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] something about our inner world
there are lot of hidden truths that are still to be discovered and that lies with in the subtel layers of our conciousness. The more we go deeper, the more facts comes in front of us. i am doing some spiritual practise like chanting "Gayatri Mahamanta" and doing "Pranaayam", "Dhayaan" etc. from quite some time. and i feel that i m getting mroe and more better in my personal , social and professional life. speacially chanting Gayatri mahamantra helps me a lot in discovering myself and improving my hidden potentials. Here is a very good online free book that is compeletly dedicated over Gayatri Mantra and its Teachings.http://www.awgp.org/english/books/gayatri_sadhana_why_how.pdf http://www.awgp.org/gamma/EngBookGSWHI will really appriciate all of us to start chanting Gayatri Mantra and to feel its power in the form of prudence and divine upliftment. Ankur Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 4, 2006, at 11:16 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:10 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: http://www.truthabouttm.org//truth/Home/index.cfm I think Rick mentioned that Orme-Johnson sometimes visits this forum? If so, I have some advice for him: change the name of your website, Dave, because as soon as someone declares that they have the truth about something, I immediately become suspicious that, if anything, they DON'T have the truth about anything. It is quite presumtuous of anyone to declare that they have the truth about anything, no? Not that I have anything against what David is doing -- I assume I would agree with most if not all of what he's written (I haven't seen much of it except a cursory look at it). But if I were he, I would subscribe to the axiom: show don't tell. Exactly. It's the spin on TM...as always, backed by their dubious, self-promoting research. I put it right up there with oil companies research on global climate and tobacco companies research on cigarette addiction... The watercolor paintings he has done on his website are quite good- A very very difficult medium to master. Are you suggesting that TM helps in the mastering the intricacies of watercolor technique? :-) I wish! yeah, based on the flavor of the rest of his site, a reasonable conclusion... Speaking of water, that book The Secret Life of Water is pretty cool (for a book...). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: something about our inner world
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ankur Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are lot of hidden truths that are still to be discovered and that lies with in the subtel layers of our conciousness. The more we go deeper, the more facts comes in front of us. i am doing some spiritual practise like chanting Gayatri Mahamanta and doing Pranaayam, Dhayaan etc. from quite some time. and i feel that i m getting mroe and more better in my personal , social and professional life. speacially chanting Gayatri mahamantra helps me a lot in discovering myself and improving my hidden potentials. Here is a very good online free book that is compeletly dedicated over Gayatri Mantra and its Teachings. http://www.awgp.org/english/books/gayatri_sadhana_why_how.pdf http://www.awgp.org/gamma/EngBookGSWH I will really appriciate all of us to start chanting Gayatri Mantra and to feel its power in the form of prudence and divine upliftment. Ankur Where is all of us? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You've just demonstrated why Maharishi led the field in the cult leaders who have made the most money article that was posted here not long ago. Lesser gurus would see it your way and wait. Maharishi would charge the suckers to rebuild those cities the first time, and then charge the same suckers *again* to rebuild the same cities the second time. In fact, he'd probably find a way to charge them for tearing down the version he rebuilt the first time, *in addition to* charging them for rebuilding it the second time. :-) Yeah, but would you say that to his face? Of course. Glad to hear it. Honestly. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You've just demonstrated why Maharishi led the field in the cult leaders who have made the most money article that was posted here not long ago. Lesser gurus would see it your way and wait. Maharishi would charge the suckers to rebuild those cities the first time, and then charge the same suckers *again* to rebuild the same cities the second time. In fact, he'd probably find a way to charge them for tearing down the version he rebuilt the first time, *in addition to* charging them for rebuilding it the second time. :-) Yeah, but would you say that to his face? Of course. Glad to hear it. Honestly. It'll never happen, of course, because not even the True Believers get to see him face to face, but wouldn't it be really a trip *to* tell him this to his face? There is some possibility that it would have been the first non-Yes-man thing he'd heard in maybe 40 years (since John Lennon). So it would be a trip to see how he reacted. If he has *any* cool whatsoever, he'd laugh. And if he did, I'd buy him a beer and we'd probably get sloshed and talk about the good old days and how much fun the TM movement was before he went insane. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: something about our inner world
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ankur Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are lot of hidden truths that are still to be discovered and that lies with in the subtel layers of our conciousness. The more we go deeper, the more facts comes in front of us. i am doing some spiritual practise like chanting Gayatri Mahamanta and doing Pranaayam, Dhayaan etc. from quite some time. and i feel that i m getting mroe and more better in my personal , social and professional life. speacially chanting Gayatri mahamantra helps me a lot in discovering myself and improving my hidden potentials. Here is a very good online free book that is compeletly dedicated over Gayatri Mantra and its Teachings. http://www.awgp.org/english/books/gayatri_sadhana_why_how.pdf http://www.awgp.org/gamma/EngBookGSWH I will really appriciate all of us to start chanting Gayatri Mantra and to feel its power in the form of prudence and divine upliftment. It is good to hear your sadhana is progressing. Did you receive Gayathri from Guru or get it from book? Many westerners think we can pick up book or just hear some mantra and start to get good results. Most sacred books from India say initiation from guru is necessary. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
This guy a relative of yours, Rick? Sal On Apr 4, 2006, at 4:10 AM, George DeForest wrote: Or as Mayor Randy Archer put it, With a population of 1,800 and the oldest population in Kansas, we don't have much going for us.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas Not that I know of. on 4/4/06 12:31 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This guy a relative of yours, Rick? Sal On Apr 4, 2006, at 4:10 AM, George DeForest wrote: Or as Mayor Randy Archer put it, With a population of 1,800 and the oldest population in Kansas, we don't have much going for us. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The one I linked to is pretty nice, huh? Wonder why they used a different one? I don't think Drudge likes her, so he used the most unflattering one. She's really a very attractive woman. I actually find her quite attractive myself. She's also wonderfully vivacious and extremely articulate in the interviews I've seen. Other than the press conference of the other day, I haven't seen her interviewed. From what I've read, I think her politics are the most horrible and most destructive. By the way, concerning Drudge's choice of photos. Certainly, he cherry-picked a most unattractive one purposely, I'll agree to that. But, of course, he did it on purpose and he would probably be the first to admit it. I remember seeing him interviewed by Brian Lamb on C-SPAN a few years ago when he was taking callers. One caller complained to him that he thought his coverage of Israel was extremely biased. Drudge's response? It was short and I think it summed up the power that the internet holds for the individual. He replied: If you don't like it, start your own website. Of course, Drudge was just literally one guy -- himself -- sitting in his appartment and was a news junkie. He started a website where all he pretty much did was post links to stories that interested him and he put on scoops that people sent him or that he fished out on the internet. Not being a major news outlet he wasn't subject to the usual verification rules or other rules of journalism so he put alot of rumors -- many unsubstantiated and, it would turn out later, wrong -- that major news outlets could never put out or would wait until they got better confirmation before they would put out. As the story goes, that's why Drudge got the Lewinsky story before anybody 'cause Newsweek had it, was going to go with it, but was waiting for more verification. Drudge had the luxury of not having to wait, so he went with it and the rest is history. They say that, today, most journalists and newsrooms in America are ALL linked to Drudge and that his website is the #1 place where jouranlists go to first for news. Quite powerful for one individual...and it's pretty much still a one- man operation as I understand it (Maybe he's got one employee or something like that). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
Makes me wonder if MUM will move there? Surely there has been talk as to why the murder occurred there and one wonders if the rationalization would be 'too many non-SV buildings on campus and in Fairfield?' In fact they could blame a lot of things that's going wrong on the current location. With real estate prices still pretty high, now may be the time to sell and rebuild MUM 'back over the rainbow' in Kansas.On Apr 4, 2006, at 5:10 AM, George DeForest wrote:'World Capital of Peace' arrives in north KansasTranscendental meditation, organic farming will be emphasis of $14 million complexBy George DiepenbrockTuesday, April 4, 2006 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest george.deforest@ wrote: as Mayor Randy Archer put it, ... I'm glad I went because the rumors are it's a cult and they are going to make underground bunkers and build nuclear weapons. That's not what they are about, he said. Absolutely not. That would be contrary to Sthapatya Veda principles. The buildings where they will construct the nuclear weapons will be all be aboveground, will have only East- or North-facing entrances, and will have a cute little garden/atrium thingy in the middle so that the cultists can sit around and sip tea when they're not working on the nukes. I am wondering what will happen to all the Vatsu correctly oriented buildings in case of the predicted (kalki, 2012) polar shift. Then all of New Geneva, and New New York has to be redone. Maybe we should just wait, and rebuilt after the shift? The buildings should all be built upon a Lazy Susan foundation. That way, when the shift takes place, the buildings can be rotated appropriately. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:10 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: http://www.truthabouttm.org//truth/Home/index.cfm I think Rick mentioned that Orme-Johnson sometimes visits this forum? If so, I have some advice for him: change the name of your website, Dave, because as soon as someone declares that they have the truth about something, I immediately become suspicious that, if anything, they DON'T have the truth about anything. It is quite presumtuous of anyone to declare that they have the truth about anything, no? Not that I have anything against what David is doing -- I assume I would agree with most if not all of what he's written (I haven't seen much of it except a cursory look at it). But if I were he, I would subscribe to the axiom: show don't tell. Exactly. It's the spin on TM...as always, backed by their dubious, self-promoting research. I put it right up there with oil companies research on global climate and tobacco companies research on cigarette addiction... At least with oil companies and cigarette companies everyone knows it's their job to try and sell their wares and there is that implicit understanding when we see their PR propaganda. But an organisation that aspires to spiritually regenerate mankind should be above such motivations. I always thought the TMO should publish ALL TM research -- both negative and positive -- and never, ever reinterpret or reword any scientific research. Doing that would have given them the greatest credibility. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/4/06 2:10 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: http://www.truthabouttm.org//truth/Home/index.cfm I think Rick mentioned that Orme-Johnson sometimes visits this forum? I forwarded your post to him. Thanks...it would be great if we get a response to it! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you heard of the great Indian Goof-Up, prior to the Chinese invasion of Tibet.? There was a lot of Speculation that China might invade Tibet. So the Indian Strategists want didn't want to offend China, sent a Cleverly worded message to the indian Ambasador stating that he should convey the mesage to China, India recognises China's Suzerainity over Tibet. The Indian Ambasador in Beijing misunderstood the message. He made a public announcement that, India recognises China's Sovereignty over Tibet.! The next day China marched into Tibet. I don't get it...what's suzerainity? ShempMcGurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 22:17:57 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp] I don't mean to blame the victim but the Dalai Lama, I believe, is contributorily negligent in the holocaust that befell his people because: 1) had he known his history -- and most certainly recent history -- he would have known the coming disaster that living next to communists would mean and he could have taken or at least attempted to take remedial action...such as: allying himself with America (which he tried to do at the last minute but was too late) or arming his people. 2) he actually played footsies with Mao and actually thought that communism had parallels with Tibetan Buddhism and that they were to some degree compatible and that he could live with the communists. Big fat fucking mistake. 3) his misinterpretation and bastardization of the concept of non- violence directly led to his inability to adequately protect his people, their culture and their religion. 4) If he truly believed in non-violence as he claimed he did, why in heaven's name did he in fact attempt to garner the favor of America when the impending doom of Chinese Communist horror was imminent? Clue: the USA had the atomic bomb. Now, that's not very non-violent of him, is it? Five years of Indo-Chinese friendship ended when Dalai Lama came to India. China wanted Dalai Lama back, but India refused. The 1962 war, in the words of the Chinese Leadership, was To Teach India a Lesson. In the 1950's, indian generals did warn that the North- East defence was weak, but the Indian government under Nehru did not take it seriously. In 1962, Chinese came down the Mountains with their Guns blazing and it sent india into a blue funk. India was growing very fast at that time. I think India lost about 10 years of progress because of that war. Smarting under that 1962 defeat, Indian intelligence agency and the American intelligence CIA, got together and created a Indo-Tibetean border force, a secret espionage group consisting of Tibetean exiles. They sneaked into Tibet and gathered information and brought it back to indians and Americans. Even Chinese military bases were bugged and tapped by the CIA with the help of this force. But the real deal was the planting of a secret Nuclear-Spy device in the Nanda-Devi peak in the Hmalayas to evesdrop on the Chinese communication and monitor Missile launches etc. The device did a brilliant job. Relations between India and America soured in 1971. - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
On Apr 4, 2006, at 2:47 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: At least with oil companies and cigarette companies everyone knows it's their job to try and sell their wares and there is that implicit understanding when we see their PR propaganda. But an organisation that aspires to spiritually regenerate mankind should be above such motivations. Indeed. I always thought the TMO should publish ALL TM research -- both negative and positive -- and never, ever reinterpret or reword any scientific research. Doing that would have given them the greatest credibility. Excellent point Shemp: then you'd really want to hear what they were saying--you'd be on the edge of your chair for the latest word. As it is, I'm always left wondering is this real or was this fudged because M. said 'you either produce the effect I say is there, or you're out.' Frankly I'm excited about the Shamatha Project (which begins Sept of this year). This may end up being the most incredible research yet on meditation. I'm just reading some recent comments by Ken Wilber--who used to support TM (esp. Skip Alexander's) research. Now he seems to be wising up too--not even knowing all the extent of all the fallacies and chicanery. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You've just demonstrated why Maharishi led the field in the cult leaders who have made the most money article that was posted here not long ago. Lesser gurus would see it your way and wait. Maharishi would charge the suckers to rebuild those cities the first time, and then charge the same suckers *again* to rebuild the same cities the second time. In fact, he'd probably find a way to charge them for tearing down the version he rebuilt the first time, *in addition to* charging them for rebuilding it the second time. :-) Yeah, but would you say that to his face? Of course. Glad to hear it. Honestly. It'll never happen, of course, because not even the True Believers get to see him face to face, but wouldn't it be really a trip *to* tell him this to his face? There is some possibility that it would have been the first non-Yes-man thing he'd heard in maybe 40 years (since John Lennon). So it would be a trip to see how he reacted. If he has *any* cool whatsoever, he'd laugh. And if he did, I'd buy him a beer and we'd probably get sloshed and talk about the good old days and how much fun the TM movement was before he went insane. :-) From what I can tell, it wouldn't depend so much what you said, as what was in your heart when you said it. No doubt he's a great guy to party with! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest george.deforest@ wrote: as Mayor Randy Archer put it, ... I'm glad I went because the rumors are it's a cult and they are going to make underground bunkers and build nuclear weapons. That's not what they are about, he said. Absolutely not. That would be contrary to Sthapatya Veda principles. The buildings where they will construct the nuclear weapons will be all be aboveground, will have only East- or North-facing entrances, and will have a cute little garden/atrium thingy in the middle so that the cultists can sit around and sip tea when they're not working on the nukes. I am wondering what will happen to all the Vatsu correctly oriented buildings in case of the predicted (kalki, 2012) polar shift. Then all of New Geneva, and New New York has to be redone. Maybe we should just wait, and rebuilt after the shift? The buildings should all be built upon a Lazy Susan foundation. That way, when the shift takes place, the buildings can be rotated appropriately. My personal solution would be to affix many very powerful rockets longitudinally at the equator. Then when the poles reverse, fire those suckers up, and reverse the poles back again. Cost Benefit Ratio is probably greater than having to rebuild everything, or developing the multiple Lazy Susan structures, bearings included, that could support a city. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
on 4/4/06 8:24 AM, bmorry2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's see how the TMO gets out of the MUM campus murder lawsuits I guess that David O.J. would not count settling out of court as counting against the TMO. Indedependent website, my ass. Someone told him to do it, you can be sure..Maybe to get back into the fold, because, after all, he and Rhoda were suddenly kicked out of Fairfield as were Lenny and Leslie Goldman. Were they kicked? Or did they leave to take care of aging parents or something? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest george.deforest@ wrote: as Mayor Randy Archer put it, ... I'm glad I went because the rumors are it's a cult and they are going to make underground bunkers and build nuclear weapons. That's not what they are about, he said. Absolutely not. That would be contrary to Sthapatya Veda principles. The buildings where they will construct the nuclear weapons will be all be aboveground, will have only East- or North-facing entrances, and will have a cute little garden/atrium thingy in the middle so that the cultists can sit around and sip tea when they're not working on the nukes. I am wondering what will happen to all the Vatsu correctly oriented buildings in case of the predicted (kalki, 2012) polar shift. Then all of New Geneva, and New New York has to be redone. Maybe we should just wait, and rebuilt after the shift? The buildings should all be built upon a Lazy Susan foundation. That way, when the shift takes place, the buildings can be rotated appropriately. My personal solution would be to affix many very powerful rockets longitudinally at the equator. Then when the poles reverse, fire those suckers up, and reverse the poles back again. Cost Benefit Ratio is probably greater than having to rebuild everything, or developing the multiple Lazy Susan structures, bearings included, that could support a city. What about the old standard...revolving doors? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/4/06 8:24 AM, bmorry2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's see how the TMO gets out of the MUM campus murder lawsuits I guess that David O.J. would not count settling out of court as counting against the TMO. Indedependent website, my ass. Someone told him to do it, you can be sure..Maybe to get back into the fold, because, after all, he and Rhoda were suddenly kicked out of Fairfield as were Lenny and Leslie Goldman. Were they kicked? Or did they leave to take care of aging parents or something? ...or maybe they did what I did: I left cold Canada for Arizona... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Have you heard of the great Indian Goof-Up, prior to the Chinese invasion of Tibet.? There was a lot of Speculation that China might invade Tibet. So the Indian Strategists want didn't want to offend China, sent a Cleverly worded message to the indian Ambasador stating that he should convey the mesage to China, India recognises China's Suzerainity over Tibet. The Indian Ambasador in Beijing misunderstood the message. He made a public announcement that, India recognises China's Sovereignty over Tibet.! The next day China marched into Tibet. I don't get it...what's suzerainity? Suzerainty is defined as 'overlordship', very similar in meaning as sovereignty in this context. So this great journalistic coup of Mr. Spock's (aka The Dude) is more red herring than anything else... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm just reading some recent comments by Ken Wilber--who used to support TM (esp. Skip Alexander's) research. Now he seems to be wising up too--not even knowing all the extent of all the fallacies and chicanery. Is this on the Web? Could you provide a link, please? It's interesting that you believe Wilber is wising up about TM. Someone just posted a message here (which I can't find) about a new book edited by Jonathan Shear called The Experience of Meditation: Experts Introduce the Major Traditions, for which Wilber has written the foreword. TM is one of the eight traditions covered in the book; Shear, himself a TMer, wrote the section on TM. Seems odd that Wilber would commit to the idea of TM being one of only eight major traditions of meditation if he no longer supported it. The book is coming out in May, according to the Web site. http://tinyurl.com/zrdms To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you suggesting that TM helps in the mastering the intricacies of watercolor technique? :-) It will, Vaj; it will. It will help in the mastery of anything you set your mind to, whether this is an attempt to cut a plank of wood straight with a saw or tune a guitar on its harmonics. But you need an open mind and a freedom from bigotry. Could this be a problem for you? Uns. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?
sparaig wrote: I've always wondered why the first Shankara would be called the original one WHILE he was alive, but who knows... The first and original Shankara is Lord Shiva - the Adi Shankara. Shankara in his lifetime was referred to as Acharya Shree. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
shempmcgurk wrote: From what I've read, I think her politics are the most horrible and most destructive. There's been a lot of eye-rolling, said an aide to a moderate Democrat who spoke on condition of anonymity. The national attention it's been getting has been unfortunate. It's becoming a distraction. A Democratic strategist concurred. This isn't the view of Democrats that we want to project in the tough races, one of victims and race-baiting, the strategist said. Read more: 'McKinney is distraction, say the Dems' By Josephine Hearn http://tinyurl.com/r25mk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: âWorld Capital of Peaceâ arrives in north Kansas 'World Capital of Peace' arrives in north Kansas Transcendental meditation, organic farming will be emphasis of $14 million complex By George Diepenbrock Tuesday, April 4, 2006 Smith Center Followers of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi have acquired 480 acres here near the exact geographical center of the continental United States. a few photos, looks kinda like Fairfield 'cept dryer: http://www.uspeacegovernment.org/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?
anon_astute_ff wrote: As Lord Siva incarnate mastering the Vedas by age 3, maybe his native tongue was the sound of Veda. Maybe, but the native language of Shankaracharya was probably Malayalam. Malayalam is the principal language of the South Indian state of Kerala. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:46 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm just reading some recent comments by Ken Wilber--who used to support TM (esp. Skip Alexander's) research. Now he seems to be wising up too--not even knowing all the extent of all the fallacies and chicanery. Is this on the Web? Could you provide a link, please? It's interesting that you believe Wilber is wising up about TM. TM research, not TM itself which I'm sure he still recognizes as a valid form of meditation. He's always been supportive and critical of TM--although I'd bet the real reason Ken wrote the forward is because he is a supporter of the importance of different traditions of meditation. And of course mantra-yoga/manasika-japa (TM) is one of these. Ken also has practiced TM, so he is familiar with it in terms of the spectrum of practice. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:46 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip I'm just reading some recent comments by Ken Wilber--who used to support TM (esp. Skip Alexander's) research. Now he seems to be wising up too--not even knowing all the extent of all the fallacies and chicanery. Is this on the Web? Could you provide a link, please? It's interesting that you believe Wilber is wising up about TM. TM research, not TM itself which I'm sure he still recognizes as a valid form of meditation. He's always been supportive and critical of TM--although I'd bet the real reason Ken wrote the forward is because he is a supporter of the importance of different traditions of meditation. And of course mantra-yoga/manasika-japa (TM) is one of these. Ken also has practiced TM, so he is familiar with it in terms of the spectrum of practice. Is this on the Web? Could you provide a link, please? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
sparaig wrote: Ah, so you're using his religious status as a reason to criticize him for his secular actions, even though you apparently don't believe that his religious status is valid... The Dalai Lama is the secular head of the Tibetan Government - the Pachen Lama is the head of the religious tradition. However, the Karmapa, Düsum Khyenpa, was the first reincarnated lama in Tibet, the first tulku. Therefore, the Gyalwa Karmapa is the real spiritual head of the Tibetan tradition. 'The Great Game: The Struggle for Empire in Central Asia' by Peter Hopkirk Kodansha Globe, 1994 'Trespassers on the Roof of the World: The Secret Exploration of Tibet' by Peter Hopkirk Kodansha Globe, 1995 Other titles of interest: 'A Cultural History of Tibet' by David L. Snellgrove, Hugh E. Richardson Orchid Press, 2004 'Prisoners of Shangri-La: Tibetan Buddhism and the West' by Donald S. Lopez Jr. University Of Chicago Press, 1999 'The Search for the Panchen Lama' by Isabel Hilton W. W. Norton, 2001 'Hostage of Beijing: The Abduction of the Panchen Lama' by Gilles Van Grasdorff, Gilles Van Grasdorff Element Books, 1999 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest george.deforest@ wrote: as Mayor Randy Archer put it, ... I'm glad I went because the rumors are it's a cult and they are going to make underground bunkers and build nuclear weapons. That's not what they are about, he said. Absolutely not. That would be contrary to Sthapatya Veda principles. The buildings where they will construct the nuclear weapons will be all be aboveground, will have only East- or North-facing entrances, and will have a cute little garden/atrium thingy in the middle so that the cultists can sit around and sip tea when they're not working on the nukes. I am wondering what will happen to all the Vatsu correctly oriented buildings in case of the predicted (kalki, 2012) polar shift. Then all of New Geneva, and New New York has to be redone. Maybe we should just wait, and rebuilt after the shift? * An east-facing building (auspicious because the entrance gets the rays of the rising sun) would still be east-facing even if the poles flipped, right? The sun is not going to come up in another direction even if the magnetic poles undergo one of their periodic shifts, and nobody knows when that is going to happen, although there are some interesting changes going on in the earth's mag field: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3359555.stm The two OK directions in SthapathyaVed are east-facing and north- facing, but east is the best, and you will find all the new TMO bldgs to be east-facing, so there would be no impact from a shift in polarity, although there would certainly be a problem if the earth was to screech to a halt and start spinning in the opposite direction -- check with the Las Vegas oddsmakers on this bet, I'm sure they would be glad to take your money...tell 'em kalki sent ya. Bob Brigante http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates2006.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bmorry2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's see how the TMO gets out of the MUM campus murder lawsuits I guess that David O.J. would not count settling out of court as counting against the TMO. Indedependent website, my ass. Someone told him to do it, you can be sure..Maybe to get back into the fold, because, after all, he and Rhoda were suddenly kicked out of Fairfield as were Lenny and Leslie Goldman. What happened there? *** The people you name here were simply no longer needed, most likely. Goldman never had an Iowa license to practice law (which is why he was listed as general counsel, a position that does not require one to be a lawyer -- unlike MUM legal counsel Bill Goldstein, who is a licensed lawyer), so when MUM was paring down staff, he was a logical candidate to go. David and Rhoda worked in psychology and lit, both of which depts don't see a lot of students anymore -- new MUM students are doing computer science and biz, so the O-Js were also no longer needed -- doesn't mean they were persona non grata. Like Jon Shear, who left MIU when they dumped the philosophy major, it was just a matter of no longer supplying skills that a smaller school needed. Shear is a prof at Virginia Commonwealth University, and has a new book out: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/93453 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
TurquoiseB wrote: You've just demonstrated why Maharishi led the field in the cult leaders who have made the most money article that was posted here not long ago. Well, just for the record, how much money did you give to the Rama Lentz? From what I've read in your posts, it must have been in the tens-of-thousands of dollars. But in fact, you probably gave the Marshy only about $35, if that. You've spent the greater part of your adult life in and out of various cults - how much money have you wasted and what did you get for your money? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: something about our inner world
I will really appriciate all of us to start chanting Gayatri Mantra and to feel its power in the form of prudence and divine upliftment. jim_flanegin wrote: Where is all of us? It's here now, wasn't it? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Makes me wonder if MUM will move there? Surely there has been talk as to why the murder occurred there and one wonders if the rationalization would be 'too many non-SV buildings on campus and in Fairfield?' In fact they could blame a lot of things that's going wrong on the current location. With real estate prices still pretty high, now may be the time to sell and rebuild MUM 'back over the rainbow' in Kansas. MUM may be thinking about moving to Kansas for just this reason (starting from scratch in building a SV-compliant community), but this is, as the newspaper notes, a real dry area, and it's unlikely they could get the water to support much of a population, but maybe there is enough to support a campus and Siddha community of similar size present in Fairfield now (about 1800 total). As far as a big organic farming operation, the lack of water makes that almost a sure non- starter. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
On Apr 4, 2006, at 4:53 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:46 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip I'm just reading some recent comments by Ken Wilber--who used to support TM (esp. Skip Alexander's) research. Now he seems to be wising up too--not even knowing all the extent of all the fallacies and chicanery. Is this on the Web? Could you provide a link, please? It's interesting that you believe Wilber is wising up about TM. TM research, not TM itself which I'm sure he still recognizes as a valid form of meditation. He's always been supportive and critical of TM--although I'd bet the real reason Ken wrote the forward is because he is a supporter of the importance of different traditions of meditation. And of course mantra-yoga/manasika-japa (TM) is one of these. Ken also has practiced TM, so he is familiar with it in terms of the spectrum of practice. Is this on the Web? Could you provide a link, please? No, sorry, it is not. I'll transcribe it when I have time and share it here. It's not totally negative, he has positive observations as well. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Yogananda's Bhagavad Gita...
Really a must read, here's an excerpt- Though force in itself is an evil, when employed against a greater evil, the lesser of the two evils becomes in this world of relativity an act of righteousness. But this is not a free license to resort to force or retaliation. For example, there is a great difference between a righteous and an unrighteous war. A country may be purposely aggressive and foment wars to satisfy its greed; a war so motivated is unrighteous action by the aggressors and no soldier should cooperate with it. To defend one's country against the aggression of another, however, protecting innocent, helpless people and preserving their noble ideals and freedom is righteousness duty! Paramahansa Yogananda. Bhagavad Gita VS 32 CHII. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
on 4/4/06 4:26 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Makes me wonder if MUM will move there? Surely there has been talk as to why the murder occurred there and one wonders if the rationalization would be 'too many non-SV buildings on campus and in Fairfield?' In fact they could blame a lot of things that's going wrong on the current location. With real estate prices still pretty high, now may be the time to sell and rebuild MUM 'back over the rainbow' in Kansas. MUM may be thinking about moving to Kansas for just this reason (starting from scratch in building a SV-compliant community), but this is, as the newspaper notes, a real dry area, and it's unlikely they could get the water to support much of a population, but maybe there is enough to support a campus and Siddha community of similar size present in Fairfield now (about 1800 total). As far as a big organic farming operation, the lack of water makes that almost a sure non- starter. There's plenty of construction on campus now (new student union and dining hall). Very unlikely that the campus is moving. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
Vaj wrote: I'm just reading some recent comments by Ken Wilber--who used to support TM (esp. Skip Alexander's) research. Now he seems to be wising up too--not even knowing all the extent of all the fallacies and chicanery. From what I've read, both of Ken Wilber's parents practice TM, and he fully supports their spiritual practice. In Wilber's view, the Adi Da Samraj is one of the most profound spiritual teachers alive today, followed closely by the Marshy. 'The Translucent Revolution: How People Just Like You are Waking Up and Changing the World' by Arjuna Ardagh and Ken Wilber New World Library, 2005 'Spiritual Choices: The Problems of Recognizing Authentic Paths to Inner Transformation' by Dick Anthony, Bruce Ecker, and Ken Wilber Paragon House, 1986 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
Ken also has practiced TM, so he is familiar with it in terms of the spectrum of practice. authfriend wrote: Is this on the Web? Could you provide a link, please? Don't have a link, but you might be interested in reading Ken Wilber's Forward to Peter Russell's book, 'The Conciousness Revolution'. Peter Russell 'The TM Technique'. Apparently Wilber is very supportive of TM research. An extraordinary discussion among three of the very finest minds of our time, spirited in its exchange, compassionate in its embrace, brilliant in its clarion call to awaken conscience and consciousness - Ken Wilber Work cited: 'The Conciousness Revolution' A Transatlantic Dialogue with Ervin Laszlo, Stan Grof and Peter Russell. Forward by Ken Wilber. Elf Rock, 2003 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest george.deforest@ wrote: as Mayor Randy Archer put it, ... I'm glad I went because the rumors are it's a cult and they are going to make underground bunkers and build nuclear weapons. That's not what they are about, he said. Absolutely not. That would be contrary to Sthapatya Veda principles. The buildings where they will construct the nuclear weapons will be all be aboveground, will have only East- or North-facing entrances, and will have a cute little garden/atrium thingy in the middle so that the cultists can sit around and sip tea when they're not working on the nukes. I am wondering what will happen to all the Vatsu correctly oriented buildings in case of the predicted (kalki, 2012) polar shift. Then all of New Geneva, and New New York has to be redone. Maybe we should just wait, and rebuilt after the shift? The buildings should all be built upon a Lazy Susan foundation. That way, when the shift takes place, the buildings can be rotated appropriately. My personal solution would be to affix many very powerful rockets longitudinally at the equator. Then when the poles reverse, fire those suckers up, and reverse the poles back again. Cost Benefit Ratio is probably greater than having to rebuild everything, or developing the multiple Lazy Susan structures, bearings included, that could support a city. What about the old standard...revolving doors? Hang on...I'm rearranging my tin foil helmet to properly think about that one... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 4, 2006, at 2:47 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: At least with oil companies and cigarette companies everyone knows it's their job to try and sell their wares and there is that implicit understanding when we see their PR propaganda. But an organisation that aspires to spiritually regenerate mankind should be above such motivations. Indeed. Indeed. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
On Apr 4, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Vaj wrote: I'm just reading some recent comments by Ken Wilber--who used to support TM (esp. Skip Alexander's) research. Now he seems to be wising up too--not even knowing all the extent of all the fallacies and chicanery. From what I've read, both of Ken Wilber's parents practice TM, and he fully supports their spiritual practice. In Wilber's view, the Adi Da Samraj is one of the most profound spiritual teachers alive today, followed closely by the Marshy. Actually his Shambhala web site used to contain a whole section on his letters regarding Adi Da. It's a mixed opinion. 'The Translucent Revolution: How People Just Like You are Waking Up and Changing the World' by Arjuna Ardagh and Ken Wilber New World Library, 2005 Ken wrote the forward to this I believe--not the book itself. What is unfortunate is that Ken really has probably never heard the 'dirty lowdown' on 'Marshy' and his movement. It's important to admire the diamonds in this life...but it's also important to see the shit they're embedded in... 'Spiritual Choices: The Problems of Recognizing Authentic Paths to Inner Transformation' by Dick Anthony, Bruce Ecker, and Ken Wilber Paragon House, 1986 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You've just demonstrated why Maharishi led the field in the cult leaders who have made the most money article that was posted here not long ago. Lesser gurus would see it your way and wait. Maharishi would charge the suckers to rebuild those cities the first time, and then charge the same suckers *again* to rebuild the same cities the second time. In fact, he'd probably find a way to charge them for tearing down the version he rebuilt the first time, *in addition to* charging them for rebuilding it the second time. :-) Yeah, but would you say that to his face? Of course. Glad to hear it. Honestly. It'll never happen, of course, because not even the True Believers get to see him face to face, but wouldn't it be really a trip *to* tell him this to his face? There is some possibility that it would have been the first non-Yes-man thing he'd heard in maybe 40 years (since John Lennon). So it would be a trip to see how he reacted. If he has *any* cool whatsoever, he'd laugh. And if he did, I'd buy him a beer and we'd probably get sloshed and talk about the good old days and how much fun the TM movement was before he went insane. :-) From what I can tell, it wouldn't depend so much what you said, as what was in your heart when you said it. No doubt he's a great guy to party with! I can live with that. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawrence Journal-World: Capital of Peace arrives in north Kansas
Rick Archer wrote: There's plenty of construction on campus now (new student union and dining hall). Very unlikely that the campus is moving. Maybe so, but plans are underway to locate another MUM campus at Radience, Texas, home of the Superradience Program. This will be an ideal location in my opinion. A special apartment, overlooking Dripping Springs, is being readied for the Marshy and King Nader Ram. On Friday evening the Maharishi Golden Dome was full of Yogic Flyers. Now all you Fairfielders have to do is come on down. We are ready - let's fly. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
On Apr 4, 2006, at 5:45 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Ken also has practiced TM, so he is familiar with it in terms of the spectrum of practice. authfriend wrote: Is this on the Web? Could you provide a link, please? Don't have a link, but you might be interested in reading Ken Wilber's Forward to Peter Russell's book, 'The Conciousness Revolution'. Peter Russell 'The TM Technique'. Apparently Wilber is very supportive of TM research. Like most of us, Ken was supportive with what he knew at first: the spin, the marketing and the partially true. But, slowly Ken has started to figure out, like most of us, 'all is not well in Fairfield'. His opinion has shown significant change over time--the latest being how the TM model of enlightenment is inaccurate. Little does Ken know, they rewrote the definite of turiyatita (Cosmic Consciousness). Where was Barbie when he needed her most?... Malibu? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
