[FairfieldLife] Re: Did You Know...?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.scottmcleod.org/didyouknow.wmv Nice find, Rick. The music, if I'm not mistaken, is from Braveheart. Sounds as if it'll take one to handle the future...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did You Know...?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.scottmcleod.org/didyouknow.wmv Unknown video format. Odd. Looked like plain old vanilla Powerpoint to me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
Just a short post to mention that Oprah's show yesterday was about staying young, most of it was nothing special and silly really. Than she had a guest, a woman who lived in N.Y., a black woman, Oprah pulled her from the audience and joked at guessing how old she was. The woman looked to be 35 at the most, well it turned out she was 70! When asked her secret the woman mentioned years of Transcendental Meditation. She mentioned that as one of a number of things. The thing she emphasized the most was using moisturizers on her skin. Hear, hear. That's the one thing that's kept me from looking like a prune myself. I've been an addict of skin lotions since I was in college. Just yesterday I was contemplating flying up to London for a concert and realized that, with their flight restrictions, they'd probably try to take my skin lotion away. I was imagining this scene at the baggage check-in reminiscent of a porno movie, with the guards trying to wrestle my squeeze bottle of lotion away from me, and white liquid shooting everywhere. Gave me a chuckle for a moment until I found out that the concert was sold out. Oh well...my ears don't get a treat but my face still does...
[FairfieldLife] Re: The non-sequitur thread
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plenty of Coke around here, probably of both kinds. I drank a huge one last weekend in a Mexican restaurant in Ottumwa. There are lots of Mexicans there who work in the hog slaughterhouse, so the restaurant is very good and authentic. Oh, now you've done it! I'm salivating like one of Pavlov's dogs. If good Mexican food exists anywhere in France, I have yet to find it. It's difficult to even roll your own, because the ingredients one can find around here are so crappy. Every time someone visits from Santa Fe and asks what they can bring me, I ask for a suitcase full of salsas and spices.
[FairfieldLife] 'Ready for Iran by end of Month?'
I do not accept the notion that the first casualty of war is truth. (Col. Sam Gardiner) The pieces are moving. Theyll be in place by the end of February. The United States will be able to escalate military operations against Iran. The second carrier strike group leaves the U.S. west coast on Tuesday. It will be joined by naval mine clearing assets from both the United States and the UK. Patriot missile defense systems have also been ordered to deploy to the Gulf. Maybe as a guard against North Korea seeing operations focused on Iran as a chance to be aggressive, a squadron of F-117 stealth fighters has just been deployed to Korea. This has to be called escalation. We have to remind ourselves, just as Iran is supporting groups inside Iraq, the United States is supporting groups inside Iran. Just as Iran has special operations troops operating inside Iraq, weve read the United States has special operations troops operating inside Iran. Just as Iran is supporting Hamas, two weeks ago we found out the United States is supporting arms for Abbas. Just as Iran and Syria are supporting Hezbollah in Lebanon were now learning the White House has approved a finding to allow the CIA to support opposition groups inside Lebanon. Just as Iran is supporting Syria, weve learned recently that the United States is going to fund Syrian opposition groups. We learned this week the President authorized an attack on the Iranian liaison office in Irbil. The White House keeps saying there are no plans to attack Iran. Obviously, the facts suggest otherwise. Equally as clear, the Iranians will read what the Administrations is doing not what it is saying. It is possible the White House strategy is just implementing a strategy to put pressure on Iran on a number of fronts, and this will never amount to anything. On the other hand, if the White House is on a path to strike Iran, well see a few more steps unfold. First, we know there is a National Security Council staff-led group whose mission is to create outrage in the world against Iran. Just like before Gulf II, this media group will begin to release stories to sell a strike against Iran. Watch for the outrage stuff. The Patriot missiles going to the GCC states are only part of the missile defense assets. I would expect to see the deployment of some of the European-based missile defense assets to Israel, just as they were before Gulf II. I would expect deployment of additional USAF fighters into the bases in Iraq, maybe some into Afghanistan. I think we will read about the deployment of some of the newly arriving Army brigades going into Iraq being deployed to the border with Iran. Their mission will be to guard against any Iranian movements into Iraq. As one of the last steps before a strike, well see USAF tankers moved to unusual places, like Bulgaria. These will be used to refuel the US-based B-2 bombers on their strike missions into Iran. When that happens, well only be days away from a strike. The White House could be telling the truth. Maybe there are no plans to take Iran to the next level. The fuel for a fire is in place, however. All we need is a spark. The danger is that we have created conditions that could lead to a Greater Middle East War. [emphasis added by Global Research] Sam Gardiner is a Retired Air Force Colonel. He is an expert in military strategy. He has taught at the National War College. He has also taught at the Air War College, the Naval War College and as visiting scholar at the Swedish Defense College. His Truth In These Podia (pdf) explains the propaganda methods used by the Pentagon to sell the war. See also the following 2005 Global Research review article on Sam Gardiner's analysis of the Pentagon's Office of Strategic Influence: America's Ministry of Propaganda Exposed, Downing Street Memo is but the Tip of the Iceberg, by Gar Smith Global Research Articles by Sam Gardiner - Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on Yahoo! Answers.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Man in Unity
Ex use me for being so less than to your almighty knowledge of life. God forbid someone have a different point of view. Lsoma.
[FairfieldLife] TMorg Accounting Controls
Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was there and I'm impressed with your memory of the event. I don't know whose idea it was to have the open presentation of the accounting firms. Probably MMY's, but if it wasn't his, you can bet your life that he approved it before it happened. Doug writing: It was a singular moment in the TM movement. Really great theatre. Things obviously had gotten big and some thought brought the interview with the accounting firms. Money and resources were being mobilized for maharishi and `the teaching'it also probably helped with some deals then probably straightened out some of the flow of monies around and across borders then too. It was a time of cowboy finance on whims. Still is evidently. Became more strictly Indian business around then after. Things were being done with dedication for Maharishi and `the teaching' then. Things being given to him, things bought for him to do the things of the movement then. Had been some looking to buying the hotels in France, Switzerland and the Austrian Italian Alps. Properties being acquired on behalf of things TMO in the United States too. Maharishi was watching what was being done and some property things popped for by wealthy people. Maharishi then really learning and figuring out the how to do real estate with other people's money and became pretty good at it. Still is evidently. -Doug in FF Doug writing: While you are still around reading posting to FFL, were you there at one of the international leaders meetings in Arosa Switzerland where account execs from a couple of the big international accounting firms were brought in and interviewed? One of the firms was Arthur Anderson then. Everyone in the TM org seemed was there, the regional co-ordinators, national and international leaders and elders of the movement like Charlie Lutes and Walter Koch, Jerry Jarvis and such. It was one of those bi- annual ATR's where the active teaching-TM movement congregated with Maharishi then. These account execs gave their pitches for the business of the TM movement then in opoen session. One played to the crowd and told everyone how great they were. The other stepped back and explained that `non-profits' need to understand their goals and mission, and then devise accounting controls that will help them see how they are doing. He explained that many non-profits instead judge their success by how many glossy publications they produce etc. In the end the first guy got the nod from the crowd. It was an amazing charade with Maharishi on the couch at the head of the room. My question, who pushed to have these accounting firms come in? The elders of the movement like Walter Koch? Charlie Lutes? Some Europeans? They were business people and watching what was going on then. The movement and Maharishi were in ascendancy then. I do not think anything happened with the accounting then after. It was an exceercise. Probably got further out-sourced to India. Who, in the middle, facilitated bringing those accounting firms in to interview? Just curious about the who and dynamics then. It was very much a produced event in the movement at that level. -Doug in Iowa .
[FairfieldLife] Re: Man in Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ex use me for being so less than to your almighty knowledge of life. God forbid someone have a different point of view. Speaking only for myself, Lou, I have NO PROBLEM hearing your different points of view. I hear a lot of them here. The only thing that makes me scratch my head from time to time is when the holders of those different points of view don't seem to realize that they (the POVs, the ideas) would be considered crazy by 99% of the world's population, and get upset when someone reacts as if that's the case. I think that one of the purposes of Fairfield Life is to shine a little light on some of the...uh... less than mainstream beliefs that one encounters in and around the TM organization, and gently remind a few folks that the things they take for granted, as almost a given about the universe and how it works, are *not* seen as givens by the majority of people around them. Think of it as a reminder of the value of inaccess- ibility (to use Carlos Castaneda's term). While one may believe to the bottom of one's heart in flying saucers landing to take the Chosen People of Israel to the promised land in space, or that Maitreya is going to suddenly speak to all people of the Earth and change everything overnight, or that people buzz in and out of 437 dimensions with ease, when you state such beliefs in an open forum, you're begging not to be taken seriously. Some may react to this disbelief by allowing it to enhance their sense of elitism (These people don't know the truth and I do), while others can get pissed off, while still others learn to present their ideas of this sort as theory, not fact, until the other 99% of the world catches up to them. What I saw in Peter's comment was a light-hearted jab at the dueling dimensions thang. You seem to have seen something completely different.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Man in Unity
Benjamin Creme is delusional. If you have nothing positive to say about me than you have proven that Benjamin Creme has taken over your mind. You keep referring to my 2006 predictions. You love to put your attention on belittling others to justify your ultimate devotion to Benjamin Creme. The fact that he is saying their are no female masters on earth shows his opinion of woman on a personal level gets in the way of his channeled information. I question his information as he sucks more and more people into his exclusive organization that promises to save the world. A true master does not make those kind of promises. We have already heard about most of his topics of the oppressive energy of Capitalism from Lord Asthtar. We have already heard enough promises from MMY and his TMO. I don't need another organization headed by a leader who claims to know everything and excludes others. We have enough of that from all the teachers of India who tell us they want the world to come together but refuse to work with there ;fellow teachers and organizations claiming to have the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The paths of devotion are coming to an end because it is time for everyone to claim their own experience of self empowerment. It is a wonderful quality of the heart to respect other teachers who are volunteering there time on this planet but co-dependency to the point where you can't think for yourself most of the time leads to a false perception of reality. Benjamin Creme loves the attention he is getting but he is another teacher who is failing to bring everyone together claiming to have the best meditation technique and the highest connection to the masters from up above. Teachers need to be more concerned with unification of the human spirit rather than protecting the purity of their chosen teaching. Now your starting to get the feeling of those of us who are leaders from the sixth dimension. We don't care who or what you follow. We want to know what your going to do for someone else today to make their life more pleasurable and joyful. Love and Light. Lou Valentino
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Man in Unity
Stop promoting Benjamin Creme by including his website address on this forum. I don't put my website address up everytime I communicate on this forum. Lsoma.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Man in Unity
Benjamin Creme is delusional. Your negative comments towards me shows me that Benjamin Creme has taken over your mind. Try to think more for yourself rather than what Benjamin Creme thinks. He is another teacher who claims to have the highest teaching of meditation and the ultimate connection to the masters from up above. His claiming that their are no woman volunteering their souls from the fifth, sixth or seventh dimensions in physical embodiment on earth today shows his disrespect for woman and his personality getting in the way of his channeled information. Their are no masters on this planet. You don't fully master this planet until you reach the 8th dimension. Then you have no further contact with the earth plane. Any teacher from the fifth, sixth or seventh dimension who decides to incarnate on earth is a volunteer. They still are working with their own lessons as they volunteer their time to help others here on earth. They are not perfect and the kinds of ideological expectations from devotees is quite ridiculous. We have heard enough promises of heaven of earth and that we will become enlightened by 2012 by so many Guru's from India. We don't need anymore teachers making promises of salvation for humanity. All I want to know is who are you going to approach today with love to make their day more enjoyable. Everything else is a waste of time including your believing in me as some visionary who needs to prove himself to others. My role is to bring people together from many different traditions. If you want to belong exclusively to one teacher or one tradition than your awareness becomes limited. Be careful of teachers who make promises of enlightenment and who profess to have all the answers. Benjamin Creme is not someone who needs more attention and many of his predictions don't come true either. Lord Ashtar has already announced his project in Word project evacuation by sister tuella and others. Lord Matreiya is making promises and false claims that lead me to believe he could be the one who is trying to fool everyone. Jesus Christ is the one who died for us. Is Lord Matrieya willing to die for this planet? IF he is not willing to die for this planet than how can he take the place of the CEO of this planet which is a 10 dimensional master Jesus the Christ? Mary Magdalene is by his side and also has equal mastership in bringing light onto earth. Does Lord Matrieya share any of the glory and if he does is it just to get something out of if for himself and whatever motive he has? Since you are questioning me so much it's my turn to question you. I am referring to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) . who seems bent on being critical of me because much of what I say doesn't fall in the same category of what Benjamin Creme is saying. Try to think for yourself and if you are a better visionary than me than put a website up and let's here about your predictions. If you don't have any visions to share than maybe you will always need Benjamin Creme to keep your bored and critical mind busy. Lsoma.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Man in Unity
I realize in the 12th dimension--or whatever dimension you are writing from--it may be considered polite to not include the email quote you are responding to, but here on planet earth where most of this are writing from, it's not only considered bad form, WE HAVE NO IDEA HALF THE TIME WHO YOU ARE RESPONDING TO OR WHAT ON EARTH YOU'RE RESPONDING TO. Please exercise a little common sense in your posts! On Feb 7, 2007, at 8:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Benjamin Creme is delusional. If you have nothing positive to say about me than you have proven that Benjamin Creme has taken over your mind. You keep referring to my 2006 predictions. You love to put your attention on belittling others to justify your ultimate devotion to Benjamin Creme. The fact that he is saying their are no female masters on earth shows his opinion of woman on a personal level gets in the way of his channeled information. I question his information as he sucks more and more people into his exclusive organization that promises to save the world. A true master does not make those kind of promises. We have already heard about most of his topics of the oppressive energy of Capitalism from Lord Asthtar. We have already heard enough promises from MMY and his TMO. I don't need another organization headed by a leader who claims to know everything and excludes others. We have enough of that from all the teachers of India who tell us they want the world to come together but refuse to work with there ;fellow teachers and organizations claiming to have the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The paths of devotion are coming to an end because it is time for everyone to claim their own experience of self empowerment. It is a wonderful quality of the heart to respect other teachers who are volunteering there time on this planet but co-dependency to the point where you can't think for yourself most of the time leads to a false perception of reality. Benjamin Creme loves the attention he is getting but he is another teacher who is failing to bring everyone together claiming to have the best meditation technique and the highest connection to the masters from up above. Teachers need to be more concerned with unification of the human spirit rather than protecting the purity of their chosen teaching. Now your starting to get the feeling of those of us who are leaders from the sixth dimension. We don't care who or what you follow. We want to know what your going to do for someone else today to make their life more pleasurable and joyful. Love and Light. Lou Valentino
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did You Know...?
It required Windows Media 11 on this end. On Feb 7, 2007, at 12:08 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.scottmcleod.org/didyouknow.wmv Unknown video format. Odd.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Man in Unity
Common sense.. My middle finger is in the up position.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Man in Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize in the 12th dimension--or whatever dimension you are writing from--it may be considered polite to not include the email quote you are responding to, but here on planet earth where most of this are writing from, it's not only considered bad form, WE HAVE NO IDEA HALF THE TIME WHO YOU ARE RESPONDING TO OR WHAT ON EARTH YOU'RE RESPONDING TO. Please exercise a little common sense in your posts! What Vaj said. What he is suggesting is simple, ordinary Net courtesy. You've been asked to do this several times, and have ignored it every time. That leaves the distinct impression that you're not at all *interested* in having actual conversations or discussions with the people here, just in making pronouncements that aren't related to anything except in your own mind. I can assume that you're not using the Web viewer to reply, because that automatically includes the text of the message you're replying to. So you must be receiving FFL via email, and replying using your email browser. What you could do is check its settings and see if there is one that says something like Include quoted text when replying. Select that option and we'd know what you were replying to when you reply. If you're using AOL, use your cursor to highlight the text you want to include in the message before hitting 'Reply'. The next step, if the post you're replying to is long, is to cut out all of the text in the quoted message that you're *not* replying to, and leave only the parts you *are* replying to. Just a hint, Lou, my second of the day. I *like* you; you seem to have a big heart and good intentions. It's just that sometimes you act a little clueless here.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Man in Unity
Forgive me for my cluelesness. I am not a computer person and trying my best to reply to all of you. I will try to highlight this and see what happens. Thanks for the heads up. The compliment about me was a needed response because I do want to communicate on the FFL without getting attacked. Lou.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Man in Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forgive me for my cluelesness. I am not a computer person and trying my best to reply to all of you. I will try to highlight this and see what happens. Thanks for the heads up. The compliment about me was a needed response because I do want to communicate on the FFL without getting attacked. Lou. The highlighting didn't seem to work in this reply. In AOL, select Settings from the Mail menu. On the popup, at the bottom, you should see two lines that have to do with quoting text. For the first line, 'Reply to messages with', you have two options, 'Selected Text Only' and 'Original Text'. The latter will automatically include the entire text of the message you reply to in *every* reply you make. The former will include text in your replies only if you highlight it *first* in the *original* email, *before* clicking the Reply button. The second line allows you to choose how you'd like that quoted text to appear in your outgoing email. 'Blue Bar' looks pretty in AOL, but in my experience is not universal, and is often not translated into marks by all receiving programs, including Yahoo Groups. 'Indent' takes the whole block of text and indents it one tab, which is neat unless the person you're replying to used long line lengths, and then it winds up making things look icky. 'None' means include the text, but don't indent it or mark it in any way (this makes it difficult sometimes to tell what's your new text, and what you're replying to. AOL is not the smartest cookie in the box. I keep it around because some people know me only by my old AOL address and don't seem to be able to update their machines to my newer addresses. :-) An alternative is to read FFL on its Web client at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ When you click Reply there, the sender's text is automatically included in your reply. The Web client has it pluses and its minuses. Be warned. Good luck.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Did You Know...?
In a message dated 2/6/07 11:06:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isn't that from Last of The Mo Betta Hicans?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did You Know...?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.scottmcleod.org/didyouknow.wmv Unknown video format. Odd. Looked like plain old vanilla Powerpoint to me. Anyone else using a Mac have difficulty with this file?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The non-sequitur thread
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Plenty of Coke around here, probably of both kinds. I drank a huge one last weekend in a Mexican restaurant in Ottumwa. There are lots of Mexicans there who work in the hog slaughterhouse, so the restaurant is very good and authentic. Oh, now you've done it! I'm salivating like one of Pavlov's dogs. If good Mexican food exists anywhere in France, I have yet to find it. It's difficult to even roll your own, because the ingredients one can find around here are so crappy. Every time someone visits from Santa Fe and asks what they can bring me, I ask for a suitcase full of salsas and spices. H... Define authentic and what spices and so on do you lack?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did You Know...?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It required Windows Media 11 on this end. Ick. Another MS virus. Thanks. On Feb 7, 2007, at 12:08 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.scottmcleod.org/didyouknow.wmv Unknown video format. Odd.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Ready for Iran by end of Month?'
In a message dated 2/7/07 4:11:44 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The White House could be telling the truth. Maybe there are no plans to take Iran to the next level. The fuel for a fire is in place, however. All we need is a spark. The danger is that we have created conditions that could lead to a Greater Middle East War. And then there is another perspective. This could all be a bunch of BS meant to put Ahmadinnajad on the hot seat among his own people. He already has a bad economy and is criticized by his opponents for too much military spending and not enough social programs, sound familiar? He doesn't have a very popular government right now and Iranians would welcome a change. Ahmadinnajad has ruined Iran's credit with this Nuclear stuff , western banks are refusing to lend him money and his economy could very well be on the verge of collapse.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The non-sequitur thread
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Plenty of Coke around here, probably of both kinds. I drank a huge one last weekend in a Mexican restaurant in Ottumwa. There are lots of Mexicans there who work in the hog slaughterhouse, so the restaurant is very good and authentic. Oh, now you've done it! I'm salivating like one of Pavlov's dogs. If good Mexican food exists anywhere in France, I have yet to find it. It's difficult to even roll your own, because the ingredients one can find around here are so crappy. Every time someone visits from Santa Fe and asks what they can bring me, I ask for a suitcase full of salsas and spices. H... Define authentic and what spices and so on do you lack? I take it back, you didn't say authentic, you said good. A story: back when I worked for Apple (as an independent contractor, not employee), the VP of the Performa marketing came to Phoenix for a visit. I caught a shuttle to the airport in Phoenix and met him and his assistant and others for lunch. We went to some hoity-toity psuedo-mexican restaurant complete with fountains and mariachi costumes for the waitresses and the two Californians oooed and ahhhed about the quality of the food. Do you have a Pepe's in Tucson? asked the assistant. Are there any good Mexican restaurants in Tucson? I've never heard of Pepe's and I don't speak Spanish well enough to know where the good Mexican restaurants are in Tucson, said I. She and her boss looked really confused. Tucson, BTW, is the home of two Mexican-American dishes: the cheesecrisp, invented by a member of the Molina Family (every member has their own non-affiliated restaurant these days, it seems) and the chimichanga, invented accidentally when someone in El Charro Cafe dropped a burro into a french fries fryer. We also have several La Parilla Suisa (Swiss Grill), a restaurant chain from Mexico City, that bills itself as Authentic Mexico City food. To be honest, I've lived in Tucson 40 years, and probably had authentic Mexican food zero times unless it was at some hole-in-the-wall in South Tucson. OTOH, a lot of the Mexican restaurants in Tucson serve tasty food.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ready for Iran by end of Month?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/7/07 4:11:44 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The White House could be telling the truth. Maybe there are no plans to take Iran to the next level. The fuel for a fire is in place, however. All we need is a spark. The danger is that we have created conditions that could lead to a Greater Middle East War. And then there is another perspective. This could all be a bunch of BS meant to put Ahmadinnajad on the hot seat among his own people. He already has a bad economy and is criticized by his opponents for too much military spending and not enough social programs, sound familiar? He doesn't have a very popular government right now and Iranians would welcome a change. Ahmadinnajad has ruined Iran's credit with this Nuclear stuff , western banks are refusing to lend him money and his economy could very well be on the verge of collapse. Yeah, but you're giving the USA under BUsh too much credit, I think. And while the current government may not be popular, dont fool yourself. Any attack by the US or Israel will unite them far more than the US invasion of Iraq did Iraqis. Odd as their government may seem to us, it WAS democratically elected.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The non-sequitur thread
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Plenty of Coke around here, probably of both kinds. I drank a huge one last weekend in a Mexican restaurant in Ottumwa. There are lots of Mexicans there who work in the hog slaughterhouse, so the restaurant is very good and authentic. Oh, now you've done it! I'm salivating like one of Pavlov's dogs. If good Mexican food exists anywhere in France, I have yet to find it. It's difficult to even roll your own, because the ingredients one can find around here are so crappy. Every time someone visits from Santa Fe and asks what they can bring me, I ask for a suitcase full of salsas and spices. H... Define authentic and what spices and so on do you lack? I take it back, you didn't say authentic, you said good. Ok. Now I'll answer. :-) Santa Fe has arguably the highest number of great restaurants per population of any city in America. (According to several gourmet magazines.) It kinda spoils you for lesser food. The Mexican restaurants there are superb, real cutting-edge stuff. Not all authentic, but consistently wonderful. To be honest, I've lived in Tucson 40 years, and probably had authentic Mexican food zero times unless it was at some hole-in-the-wall in South Tucson. OTOH, a lot of the Mexican restaurants in Tucson serve tasty food. The only authentic Mexican food I've ever had was in Mexico and in one restaurant in L.A. (a favorite of Jackson Browne and many other rockers, BTW). It's lighter and tastier than gringo Mexican food. I could make stuff from scratch here, and often do, but sometimes it's difficult to *find* scratch, like the right kind of beans, or tortillas (unless you make them yourself), much less annato seeds and banana leaves and habaneros for making Robert Rodriguez's famous puerco pibil recipe from 'Once Upon A Time In Mexico.' It's even worse if, like me, you're a tequila snob. In Santa Fe I could find easily 100 varieties of tequila, most costing over 50 bucks a bottle. Tequila is one of those liquors that, like Scotch, improves with aging. It's a sippin' drink. No one who knows tequila would waste a really good one on a margarita. Well, you can't find diddley-squat here in France. There is just no market for them yet, so no one imports them. The stores don't have any of the good ones, the restaurants don't have any of the good ones, and even the distributors don't have any of the good ones. Sigh.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ready for Iran by end of Month?'
In a message dated 2/7/07 10:52:36 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And then there is another perspective. This could all be a bunch of BS meant to put Ahmadinnajad on the hot seat among his own people. He already has a bad economy and is criticized by his opponents for too much military spending and not enough social programs, sound familiar? He doesn't have a very popular government right now and Iranians would welcome a change. Ahmadinnajad has ruined Iran's credit with this Nuclear stuff , western banks are refusing to lend him money and his economy could very well be on the verge of collapse. Yeah, but you're giving the USA under BUsh too much credit, I think. And while the current government may not be popular, dont fool yourself. Any attack by the US or Israel will unite them far more than the US invasion of Iraq did Iraqis. Odd as their government may seem to us, it WAS democratically elected. No I don't think I'm giving Bush too much credit at all. It is he that is pushing as many international banks to suspend Iran's credit which is a burden on their economy. And Because of the tuff talk Iran is spending it's resources on military build up instead of it's own infrastructure and bettering it's people's lives. It's called economic war and it makes him very unpopular. Iranians in general want better relations with the west but they know it's not possible with their current president and his policies. But you are right that a military attack would unify the Iranians behind their leader, at least for a while.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did You Know...?
sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It required Windows Media 11 on this end. Ick. Another MS virus. Thanks. FYI, that little video you made and posted a link to did not even play with Quicktime for Windows. Payback time I guess. ;-) Actually if people want to have their videos seen they should use Flash as there are free encoders and over 95% of browsers have Flash installed.
[FairfieldLife] TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
Today I posted a short blog on TM-Free. A respondent doubted my interpretation of Guru Dev's teachings on siddhis so I went back to the text of his satsang, and I re-read the relevant section, about enlisting the help of the deity of the mantra that siddhis can also come from Yakshas, Bhutas, Pretas and Pishachas.. You might be interested to check it out http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2007/02/tm-gods-siddhis.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did You Know...?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.scottmcleod.org/didyouknow.wmv Great stuff- Thanks Rick!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did You Know...?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.scottmcleod.org/didyouknow.wmv Unknown video format. Odd. Use windows media player...
[FairfieldLife] Re: The non-sequitur thread
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Plenty of Coke around here, probably of both kinds. I drank a huge one last weekend in a Mexican restaurant in Ottumwa. There are lots of Mexicans there who work in the hog slaughterhouse, so the restaurant is very good and authentic. Oh, now you've done it! I'm salivating like one of Pavlov's dogs. If good Mexican food exists anywhere in France, I have yet to find it. It's difficult to even roll your own, because the ingredients one can find around here are so crappy. Every time someone visits from Santa Fe and asks what they can bring me, I ask for a suitcase full of salsas and spices. H... Define authentic and what spices and so on do you lack? I take it back, you didn't say authentic, you said good. Ok. Now I'll answer. :-) Santa Fe has arguably the highest number of great restaurants per population of any city in America. (According to several gourmet magazines.) It kinda spoils you for lesser food. The Mexican restaurants there are superb, real cutting-edge stuff. Not all authentic, but consistently wonderful. To be honest, I've lived in Tucson 40 years, and probably had authentic Mexican food zero times unless it was at some hole-in-the-wall in South Tucson. OTOH, a lot of the Mexican restaurants in Tucson serve tasty food. The only authentic Mexican food I've ever had was in Mexico and in one restaurant in L.A. (a favorite of Jackson Browne and many other rockers, BTW). It's lighter and tastier than gringo Mexican food. I could make stuff from scratch here, and often do, but sometimes it's difficult to *find* scratch, like the right kind of beans, or tortillas (unless you make them yourself), much less annato seeds and banana leaves and habaneros for making Robert Rodriguez's famous puerco pibil recipe from 'Once Upon A Time In Mexico.' It's even worse if, like me, you're a tequila snob. In Santa Fe I could find easily 100 varieties of tequila, most costing over 50 bucks a bottle. Tequila is one of those liquors that, like Scotch, improves with aging. It's a sippin' drink. No one who knows tequila would waste a really good one on a margarita. Well, you can't find diddley-squat here in France. There is just no market for them yet, so no one imports them. The stores don't have any of the good ones, the restaurants don't have any of the good ones, and even the distributors don't have any of the good ones. Sigh. If either of you ever make it to the Bay Area, check out Compadres in Palo Alto. Something which makes a great restaurant for me, Mexican or otherwise, is atmosphere. This place has a large glass and timber covered patio (used to be a foundry) with heaters and a fireplace when its chilly or raining, and you can spend all day there. Brick floors, rough hewn wooden tables, the place just oozes relaxation, and the cool thing is most people eat inside so its usually ours for the afternoon. Great selection of tequilas, probably 50 or so, and even their margaritas are a lot more than just Cuervo mix and ice. Their burritos are delicious and packed with good stuff like carnitas or lobster or mole chicken, and they have lots of other stuff. They also have a couple restaurants in Hawaii, but I haven't checked them out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I posted a short blog on TM-Free. A respondent doubted my interpretation of Guru Dev's teachings on siddhis so I went back to the text of his satsang, and I re-read the relevant section, about enlisting the help of the deity of the mantra that siddhis can also come from Yakshas, Bhutas, Pretas and Pishachas.. You might be interested to check it out http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2007/02/tm-gods-siddhis.html From the page you cite: Bhuta, Preta, Pishacha A common Hindu belief holds that the spirits of men and women who died with their wishes unfulfilled, wander in the world and haunt the living instead of going to Yamapuri (see Moksha). These spirits can be broadly categorised into three classes: Bhuta, preta and pishacha. A bhuta is the spirit of a man who died a violent death either by accident, suicide, or capital punishment, and has not had a proper funeral ceremony. A preta (literally departed, deceased, dead) is the spirit of a dead person before his funeral rites are performed. However the word is more commonly applied to the spirit of a deformed or a crippled person or of one defective in some limb or organ, or of a child that dies prematurely, owing to the omission of ceremonies during the formation of the embryo (see Sanskara). A preta is not necessarily wicked or malicious towards people. A pishacha is a demon created by a man's vices. It is the ghost of a liar, drunkard, adulterer, criminal, or of one who has died insane. There are many tales and fables about these spirits, describing some as malevolent and others as good-natured and helpful. Spirits are believed to live either at the site of their death or in secluded places. Abandoned homes and peepal trees are two favorite spots. So this is where Patanjali got his siddhis sutras?
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I posted a short blog on TM-Free. Oh, BTW, Paul is too modest to mention it, but he has joined TMFree as an editor. Some questions, though, have arisen concerning whether past posts of his to other venues, including this one, are entirely consistent with his participation on TMFree (see the comment to John Knapp's announcement about Paul joining the blog).
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Today I posted a short blog on TM-Free. Oh, BTW, Paul is too modest to mention it, but he has joined TMFree as an editor. Some questions, though, have arisen concerning whether past posts of his to other venues, including this one, are entirely consistent with his participation on TMFree (see the comment to John Knapp's announcement about Paul joining the blog). In other words, Judy has stalked Paul to TM-Free, commenting as 'Anonymous.' Thought that was you. When I submitted a comment there, I had the balls to sign it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ready for Iran by end of Month?'
I posted this information, to make people aware, that a military build-up will be in place by the end of the month... Bush is goading the Iranians in every way to attack first. The president of Iran, is in a weak position with his people, this is true, and a war with the United States and Israel, is his stated goal; to fulfill some kind of crazy prophesy, and to increase his leadership by standing up to a super-power, and so on. By the same token Bush may feel that the country would rally around him in a crisis. The bottom line is it's all about controlling the oil in that region. All of the shipping lanes could possibly be blocked in the Persian Gulf, blocking all oil from the region. In addition all of the countries of the middle east would be pulled into the chaos. But, the U.S. will continue to militarily protect it's interests in the Persian Gulf, and the weapons which are there in that area, could be used if push comes to shove... r.g.
[FairfieldLife] Anybody here
Ever have any meritorious ideas and act on them? Anything any of us can act on?
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Today I posted a short blog on TM-Free. Oh, BTW, Paul is too modest to mention it, but he has joined TMFree as an editor. Some questions, though, have arisen concerning whether past posts of his to other venues, including this one, are entirely consistent with his participation on TMFree (see the comment to John Knapp's announcement about Paul joining the blog). In other words, Judy has stalked Paul to TM-Free, commenting as 'Anonymous.' Thought that was you. When I submitted a comment there, And who were you stalking, Barry? Who is Vaj stalking, do you think? I had the balls to sign it. I've tried to sign comments on other Blogspot blogs and haven't been able to; Anonymous was the only thing that worked. (Even with Anonymous, this blog won't post my comment until I go through the procedure of deciphering the anti-spamming graphic twice.) If Other works there, I'll be happy to use my name. Why on earth wouldn't I??
[FairfieldLife] Re: Man in Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Benjamin Creme is delusional. Thats an interesting thing to say about another human being. If you have nothing positive to say about me than you have proven that Benjamin Creme has taken over your mind. I've never said that you do not have positive qualities, I'm sure you have. But you make some pretty heavy characteristics about people you know little or nothing. You keep referring to my 2006 predictions. Yes I do, because the way things turned out it showed that your predictions are not to be trusted. I'm sorry, thats just the way it is. You love to put your attention on belittling others to justify your ultimate devotion to Benjamin Creme. Benjamin Creme is not my Guru, Maharishi is. But I have met him, and he is truly a remarkable person who has produced 12 highly interesting books on the Reapperance of Maitreya and the Masters of wisdom to this earth. Having listened to Maharishi saying that Heaven will walk on earth - in this generation, I, and an increasing number of people on earth find it plausible that Benjamin Creme is in fact correct. I find Benjamin Creme to be a deeply serious, humble and humerous person and a fellow I trust. Just as I trust Maharishi. If you have a problem with that, be my quest. The fact that he is saying their are no female masters on earth shows his opinion of woman on a personal level gets in the way of his channeled information. Why ? He could very well be right on this point. Please note that Benjamin Creme does not state that there are no female Avatars in incarnation at this time. BTW, Mr. Creme is not channeling information. Hey Mr. Lou - how about doing som research before you blurt out nonsense. I question his information as he sucks more and more people into his exclusive organization that promises to save the world. A true master does not make those kind of promises. Again my friend you are way out. It becomes clear that you have not studied the works of Benjamin Creme, who BTW is not a Master. The Masters or Maitreya are not going to save the world - that is the job for mankind. They will inspire us for action and change. Please do your homework before you write more agitated words. And; Benjamin Creme has no organisation, but a network of co-workers that share his view. We have already heard about most of his topics of the oppressive energy of Capitalism from Lord Asthtar. We have already heard enough promises from MMY and his TMO. Maharishi is delivering, big time. People should just be a little patient, and mind their own business (take care of their own consciousness). I don't need another organization headed by a leader who claims to know everything and excludes others. Again you are mistaken. Mr. Creme dos not exclude anyone or anything. Quite the contrary. But you would not know, because you have not studied his works. We have enough of that from all the teachers of India who tell us they want the world to come together but refuse to work with there ;fellow teachers and organizations claiming to have the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The paths of devotion are coming to an end because it is time for everyone to claim their own experience of self empowerment. It is a wonderful quality of the heart to respect other teachers who are volunteering there time on this planet but co-dependency to the point where you can't think for yourself most of the time leads to a false perception of reality. Benjamin Creme loves the attention he is getting but he is another teacher who is failing to bring everyone together claiming to have the best meditation technique and the highest connection to the masters from up above. Again you are wrong. Benjamin Creme has recommended Transcendental Meditation and many spiritual leaders. You are just probably to lazy or agitated to get this information. Teachers need to be more concerned with unification of the human spirit Then why are you so eager to spit out nonsense about others ? rather than protecting the purity of their chosen teaching. Now your starting to get the feeling of those of us who are leaders from the sixth dimension. We don't care who or what you follow. We want to know what your going to do for someone else today to make their life more pleasurable and joyful. Love and Light. I meditate. Do you ? Lou Valentino
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip In other words, Judy has stalked Paul to TM-Free, commenting as 'Anonymous.' Thought that was you. I had the balls to sign it. Oh, I see, you commented as Anonymous just as I did, but put your name at the end of your comment. Sure, I could do that. Didn't think of it. I'm sure Paul knew who the comment was from in any case.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ready for Iran by end of Month?'
In a message dated 2/7/07 12:54:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In addition all of the countries of the middle east would be pulled into the chaos. But, the U.S. will continue to militarily protect it's interests in the Persian Gulf, and the weapons which are there in that area, could be used if push comes to shove... The Sunni governments are terrified of Iran having nuclear weapons technology and will demand their own if Iran gets them. Part of the US interests in the Area are to keep Nuclear weapons technology out of the hands of as many countries as possible, which is fine with the Sunnis as long as the Shiites don't have them either.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Today I posted a short blog on TM-Free. Oh, BTW, Paul is too modest to mention it, but he has joined TMFree as an editor. Some questions, though, have arisen concerning whether past posts of his to other venues, including this one, are entirely consistent with his participation on TMFree (see the comment to John Knapp's announcement about Paul joining the blog). In other words, Judy has stalked Paul to TM-Free, commenting as 'Anonymous.' Thought that was you. When I submitted a comment there, And who were you stalking, Barry? I glance at the site once every week or two, just to see what they're up to. I don't like it much. On this latest visit, I noticed Paul's name and read what he had to say, and then read the comments, most of which seemed to have come from you, all marked 'Anonymous.' Who is Vaj stalking, do you think? I doubt he is stalking anyone, although there are a few paranoid schizophrenics who believe that he is stalking them. I had the balls to sign it. I've tried to sign comments on other Blogspot blogs and haven't been able to; Anonymous was the only thing that worked. (Even with Anonymous, this blog won't post my comment until I go through the procedure of deciphering the anti-spamming graphic twice.) If Other works there, I'll be happy to use my name. Why on earth wouldn't I?? You typed a great deal of information into the 'Anonymous' reply box, as did I. Did it ever occur to you to put your name at the bottom of the text. It occured to me, so I did it. After all, I'm not stalking anyone there, so I don't have any reason to hide who I am. You've ragged on Paul's ass on...how many forums has it been, now, and how many years? Face it, bitch...you're a stalker.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Man in Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize in the 12th dimension--or whatever dimension you are writing from--it may be considered polite to not include the email quote you are responding to, but here on planet earth where most of this are writing from, it's not only considered bad form, WE HAVE NO IDEA HALF THE TIME WHO YOU ARE RESPONDING TO OR WHAT ON EARTH YOU'RE RESPONDING TO. Please exercise a little common sense in your posts! Well said Vaj. But I suspect this fellow to be well beyond common sense. Perhaps in some strange dimension. I do not really care. Love light. Nablusos :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Today I posted a short blog on TM-Free. Oh, BTW, Paul is too modest to mention it, but he has joined TMFree as an editor. Some questions, though, have arisen concerning whether past posts of his to other venues, including this one, are entirely consistent with his participation on TMFree (see the comment to John Knapp's announcement about Paul joining the blog). In other words, Judy has stalked Paul to TM-Free, commenting as 'Anonymous.' Thought that was you. When I submitted a comment there, And who were you stalking, Barry? I glance at the site once every week or two, just to see what they're up to. I don't like it much. On this latest visit, I noticed Paul's name and read what he had to say, and then read the comments, most of which seemed to have come from you, all marked 'Anonymous.' Just as your comments have been. Actually, the comments involved a brief dialogue between Paul and me. I had made essentially two comments; the rest were Paul's responses and my replies to them. Who is Vaj stalking, do you think? I doubt he is stalking anyone, although there are a few paranoid schizophrenics who believe that he is stalking them. You mean, the way you claimed I was stalking you when I started posting here? I wasn't aware of your diagnosis, Barry. Sorry to hear it. But it certainly does explain a lot. I really don't think Vaj is stalking you, though. I had the balls to sign it. I've tried to sign comments on other Blogspot blogs and haven't been able to; Anonymous was the only thing that worked. (Even with Anonymous, this blog won't post my comment until I go through the procedure of deciphering the anti-spamming graphic twice.) If Other works there, I'll be happy to use my name. Why on earth wouldn't I?? You typed a great deal of information into the 'Anonymous' reply box, as did I. You mean, the quotes from Paul's past posts? Did it ever occur to you to put your name at the bottom of the text. No, it didn't. As I said, I was sure Paul would know who I was. It occured to me, so I did it. After all, I'm not stalking anyone there, so I don't have any reason to hide who I am. Nor do I, obviously. You've ragged on Paul's ass on...how many forums has it been, now, and how many years? Whichever ones he and I have both been on. In all cases but FFL, however, it happens that I was there first, so perhaps he was stalking me. Face it, bitch...you're a stalker. Think maybe you should have your physician check your medication? It doesn't seem to be keeping the paranoia in check very well, and your thinking is clearly becoming more incoherent by the minute.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Who is Vaj stalking, do you think? I doubt he is stalking anyone, although there are a few paranoid schizophrenics who believe that he is stalking them. You mean, the way you claimed I was stalking you when I started posting here? Show of hands. Is there anyone here -- *anyone* -- who, after a year and a half, doesn't believe that Judy came to FFL stalking Vaj, Paul and myself?
[FairfieldLife] FWD: Important meeting tonight
forwarded message from Vedic City Peace Palace: Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:40:35 AM PST From: Mac Muehlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Important meeting tonight Dear Maharishi Vedic City residents, An important message from Maharishi will be read by HE Dr. Bevan Morris tonight Wednesday the 7th at 8:15pm in the Maharishi Patanjali Dome. This message was first given out during the phone call this morning. Jai Guru Dev. All the best, Cynthia and Mac
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ready for Iran by end of Month?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted this information, to make people aware, that a military build-up will be in place by the end of the month... Bush is goading the Iranians in every way to attack first. The president of Iran, is in a weak position with his people, this is true, and a war with the United States and Israel, is his stated goal; to fulfill some kind of crazy prophesy, and to increase his leadership by standing up to a super-power, and so on. By the same token Bush may feel that the country would rally around him in a crisis. The bottom line is it's all about controlling the oil in that region. All of the shipping lanes could possibly be blocked in the Persian Gulf, blocking all oil from the region. In addition all of the countries of the middle east would be pulled into the chaos. But, the U.S. will continue to militarily protect it's interests in the Persian Gulf, and the weapons which are there in that area, could be used if push comes to shove... r.g. I haven't read in his own words that the President of Iran's stated goal is a war with Israel and the US. Do you have a quote for that? Regarding Bush, he is like the overgrown school yard bully, taunting the smaller weaker kids until one takes a swing at him so he can them beat the shit out of them, claiming self-defense. What an asshole.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
On Feb 7, 2007, at 1:39 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Show of hands. Is there anyone here -- *anyone* -- who, after a year and a half, doesn't believe that Judy came to FFL stalking Vaj, Paul and myself? As I recall, Barry, Judy originally came over here (and possibly Shemp as well) because you invited her. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 7, 2007, at 1:39 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Show of hands. Is there anyone here -- *anyone* -- who, after a year and a half, doesn't believe that Judy came to FFL stalking Vaj, Paul and myself? As I recall, Barry, Judy originally came over here (and possibly Shemp as well) because you invited her. That's what she says. But here is what I actually wrote, in my original well-intentioned but incredibly naive and stupid invitation to those who were ss tired of the bickering on a.m.t. as I was. I leave it up to you to determine whether those who RSVP'd and came here lived up to that intention: In my view, Vaj has 'true believer syndrome' in terms of his own apparent current indoctrination and like many others, cannot recognize TM's *practicable direct significance* in the whole picture. I thought that myself at first, because of his tendency to come on sometimes like a stiff dick. :-) But since then I have seen his posts on another forum, one that is TM-oriented, but which is strangely civil and respectful and not at all like this particular snakepit. On that other forum, what Vaj posted would be merely information being presented, and information is what would be reacted to and discussed. It's *here* that he's being reacted to as an anti-TMer. I have to believe, having now seen the strking difference between this forum and the other one (which has maybe 10X the contributors and traffic of a.m.t., for what should be obvious reasons), that a.m.t. contains a higher number of TM cultists, people who are so frightened by new information that they have to turn the presentation of that information into an argument, in an attempt to prove their super- iority. All it proves to me is their ignorance and their insecurity. and that same day, in a followup tp a post from none other than Lawson (sparaig): Perhaps people behave better on some of the forums where they know they can get booted, unlike myself, who could give a damn either way? Well, you can't really get booted from an unmoderated Yahoo forum, so I don't think that's the issue. I just think that the group seems to be an extension of the openness of its founders. Several people who regularly post here are also evident on FFL. One or more of them might give their impressions of the differences between the two environments. And PLEASE...if any a.m.t.ers go over there to check things out, PLEASE check your bad attitudes at the door, eh? The place is not the snakepit that a.m.t. is, and I for one would love to see it not become one.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Who is Vaj stalking, do you think? I doubt he is stalking anyone, although there are a few paranoid schizophrenics who believe that he is stalking them. You mean, the way you claimed I was stalking you when I started posting here? Show of hands. Is there anyone here -- *anyone* -- who, after a year and a half, doesn't believe that Judy came to FFL stalking Vaj, Paul and myself? Barry, get to the doctor *now*.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 7, 2007, at 1:39 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Show of hands. Is there anyone here -- *anyone* -- who, after a year and a half, doesn't believe that Judy came to FFL stalking Vaj, Paul and myself? As I recall, Barry, Judy originally came over here (and possibly Shemp as well) because you invited her. That's correct. (I had been registered as a member of FFL for a couple of years previously, but I just came here to see what was going on occasionally and had never posted.) Barry issued his invitation shortly after the whole Raja thing and the millionaires' course had materialized, and I thought it would be interesting to see how folks were reacting.
[FairfieldLife] 'The Siddhis, Ghosts Powers'
From my experience, these are two completely different topics... It is true, that departed disembodied souls, can attach themselves to you, and you would be under the influence of these attached souls. This is considered possession, and sometimes can lead to all kinds of negative behaviour, and strange abilities- usually quite negative... Much of voodoo and occult powers are consiouss expressions of these (Hitler was a soul, who sold rented himself out to these forces). Sometimes people take on these spirits, ghosts, whatever you wish to call them, from diffusing their energy, by exessive alcohol or drugs, or indulging in too much lust or seeking the power of the ego... I believe there are different catagories of these dark beings, some are just departed, frustrating, or greedy or lusting souls; Others are more actual forces of nature, or beast-like creatures, so- called power animals of some native cultures, such as a black panther... It is said that the scream of a black panther at night, scares the pants off of all creatures of the forest, so... Anyway, getting back to the siddhis- I believe Guru Dev meant that one can't chase after the siddhis, or any 'powers', because that would lead to the above mentioned fates... In other words, there is always the karma of the soul agreement... A foreign entity will not enter, if there is not an agreement made, and this is where free choice comes in. Just as one cannot chase after enlightenment, or grace; It is something that the soul rises to, through steps, of understanding and experience of the soul's journey. The siddhis are a spontaneous process, whereas one is established in pure Being, and that pure Being, the Source, allows one to know things, or to accomplish things, but always in a positive way, working in the light, beyond the ego... One may also have awareness of higher beings, Devas and such, which are of the higher realms, the higher vibrational field. So, the fruit of powers of the ego, is chaos, and ugliness...This we can see in Iraq, for example. And the fruits of siddhi powers, of the higher self, is noticed in harmany, and bliss. If you feel that you have taken on some extaneous energy; sometimes you could consult with someone who has worked with these energy's to clear them; some Native Americans are familiar with clearing energy's. There is someone here in Seattle: http://dariuszrawa.com/home.html He seems to have a good grasp on this subject...
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Feb 7, 2007, at 1:39 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Show of hands. Is there anyone here -- *anyone* -- who, after a year and a half, doesn't believe that Judy came to FFL stalking Vaj, Paul and myself? As I recall, Barry, Judy originally came over here (and possibly Shemp as well) because you invited her. That's what she says. But here is what I actually wrote, in my original well-intentioned but incredibly naive and stupid invitation to those who were ss tired of the bickering on a.m.t. as I was. I leave it up to you to determine whether those who RSVP'd and came here lived up to that intention: Actually whether anyone did or not is irrelevant. The issue is whether I came over to stalk you and Vaj and Paul, as you idiotically claim in your fit of rampant paranoia. But as far as intentions go, it had been my intention to leave you strictly alone, and I would have done had you not started attacking *me*. (As you know, you had begun attacking me even before I got here, and continued after I arrived--as well as blatantly lying on alt.m.t about what others here had said about me, and lying here about what had gone on on alt.m.t.) In my view, Vaj has 'true believer syndrome' in terms of his own apparent current indoctrination and like many others, cannot recognize TM's *practicable direct significance* in the whole picture. (FWIW, this is not a quote from one of my posts. I was not the only one on alt.m.t to have this opinion of Vaj.) snip And PLEASE...if any a.m.t.ers go over there to check things out, PLEASE check your bad attitudes at the door, eh? The place is not the snakepit that a.m.t. is, and I for one would love to see it not become one. Hands, please. Who here believes *Barry* has lived up to the intentions he states?
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Who is Vaj stalking, do you think? I doubt he is stalking anyone, although there are a few paranoid schizophrenics who believe that he is stalking them. You mean, the way you claimed I was stalking you when I started posting here? Show of hands. Is there anyone here -- *anyone* -- who, after a year and a half, doesn't believe that Judy came to FFL stalking Vaj, Paul and myself? Barry, get to the doctor *now*. (Note that in one breath Barry claims those who believe others are stalking them are paranoid schizophrenics, and in the next asserts that I have been stalking him and Vaj and Paul.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Feb 7, 2007, at 1:39 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Show of hands. Is there anyone here -- *anyone* -- who, after a year and a half, doesn't believe that Judy came to FFL stalking Vaj, Paul and myself? As I recall, Barry, Judy originally came over here (and possibly Shemp as well) because you invited her. That's correct. (I had been registered as a member of FFL for a couple of years previously, but I just came here to see what was going on occasionally and had never posted.) Barry issued his invitation shortly after the whole Raja thing and the millionaires' course had materialized, and I thought it would be interesting to see how folks were reacting. I for one am happy to see you, and Barry and Paul and Vaj (believe it or not) here, and Peter, Barry2, nabluso108, Rick, Llundrub,Tom, peterklutz, R Gimbel, spairaig, and everyone else on here. The thing that binds all of us is a deep commitment to spiritual discovery and integration. We are all Masters here in one way or another. And each of us having our own points of view, as we necessarily do after the aggregate centuries of spiritual pracice evident on FFL (no dabblers here!). We challenge one another and ourselves, sometimes mercilessly, and then the dialogue mutates and evolves into something completely different. I wouldn't have it any other way. This place is a special gift for us to discuss and argue and complement one another on topics that are just about unique with regard to the depth and openess with which they are discussed. And it is both our differences and shared interests and experiences that make it such a compelling forum. Thank you everyone and God (or fill in with diety of choice) bless you All!
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I for one am happy to see you, and Barry and Paul and Vaj (believe it or not) here, and Peter, Barry2, nabluso108, Rick, Llundrub,Tom, peterklutz, R Gimbel, spairaig, and everyone else on here. The thing that binds all of us is a deep commitment to spiritual discovery and integration. We are all Masters here in one way or another. And each of us having our own points of view, as we necessarily do after the aggregate centuries of spiritual pracice evident on FFL (no dabblers here!). We challenge one another and ourselves, sometimes mercilessly, and then the dialogue mutates and evolves into something completely different. I wouldn't have it any other way. Nicely said.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Today I posted a short blog on TM-Free. Oh, BTW, Paul is too modest to mention it, but he has joined TMFree as an editor. Some questions, though, have arisen concerning whether past posts of his to other venues, including this one, are entirely consistent with his participation on TMFree (see the comment to John Knapp's announcement about Paul joining the blog). In other words, Judy has stalked Paul to TM-Free, commenting as 'Anonymous.' Thought that was you. When I submitted a comment there, I had the balls to sign it. You mean, besides where you puts her name at the bottom of the message?
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Today I posted a short blog on TM-Free. Oh, BTW, Paul is too modest to mention it, but he has joined TMFree as an editor. Some questions, though, have arisen concerning whether past posts of his to other venues, including this one, are entirely consistent with his participation on TMFree (see the comment to John Knapp's announcement about Paul joining the blog). In other words, Judy has stalked Paul to TM-Free, commenting as 'Anonymous.' Thought that was you. When I submitted a comment there, I had the balls to sign it. You mean, besides where you puts her name at the bottom of the message? If you meant to write besides where you put your name, that's correct. Barry commented as Anonymous just as I did. Oh, and as Barry knows, I had posted several comments there before Paul ever showed up.
[FairfieldLife] MUM ties with S. Africa school
from today's MUM Review: 4. South Africans from CIDA City Campus Join Assembly Four recent graduates of CIDA City Campus in South Africa and a current student spent a month on the Invincible America Assembly. Their goal was to enjoy the benefits of group practice of the TM-Sidhi® program while also fostering the link between CIDA and Maharishi University of Management. Founded in 2000 by a group of Governors and Sidhas and offering students the opportunity to learn the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi programs, CIDA City Campus has gained renown for being innovative, for being the only virtually free university in southern Africa, and for providing higher education to intelligent and motivated young Africans. The students come from impoverished townships surrounding Johannesburg as well as from rural communities, farm schools, and squatter camps in South Africa and other sub-Saharan countries. CIDA currently has over 1,300 students and offers a cutting-edge business and technology B.B.A. degree, along with Consciousness-Based education. The four grads are among a core group of 10 who are serving as teaching assistants and are committed to growing CIDA and its Consciousness- Based education programs. They had a deep desire to spend time at Maharishi University of Management in order to experience a university with decades of experience in offering Consciousness-Based education. ³They were excited about their trip here,² said Brian Horsfield, a faculty member at Maharishi University of Management who spent six months at CIDA this past year. ³It was an eye-opener and strengthened their commitment to making CIDA a fully efficient Consciousness-Based education institution.² The four teaching assistants, Peter Mabila, Tommy Mkansi, Piloko Tsubane, and Lulama Ntozini, were accompanied by undergraduate student Tukiso Mokoena, who last year at the age of 20 already started his own Consciousness-Based education school that enrolled 24 students. He is part of a program in which CIDA students have the opportunity to travel to their home area and mentor at least 50 other students. Also joining the Assembly were Dr. Taddy Blecher, CEO of CIDA, and Marlene DeBeer, codirector of Consciousness-Based education. The participation of the CIDA personnel and students was made possible in part by support from the Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for an Invincible America. The Community and Individual Development Association (CIDA) was begun in 1995 during the era of apartheid for the purpose of teaching the Transcendental Meditation technique in the townships. CIDA City Campus began in 2000 and was given buildings vacated by a major bank. CIDA City Campus subsequently received support from a number of South African companies. And now with the help of Fairfield resident Dr. Melanie Brown, CIDA is successfully garnering support from major foundations in the U.S. For more information about CIDA Foundation in the U.S., see the website http://www.cidafoundation.org. Those interested in working to help establish Consciousness-Based education at CIDA City Campus may contact Mr. Blecher at [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more information about CIDA City Campus, see http://www.cida.co.za.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Siddhis, Ghosts Powers'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] If you feel that you have taken on some extaneous energy; sometimes you could consult with someone who has worked with these energy's to clear them; some Native Americans are familiar with clearing energy's. There is someone here in Seattle: http://dariuszrawa.com/home.html He seems to have a good grasp on this subject... Perhaps it is good to point out that at the end of the day, all energies are extranous to the Self - there really is no particular karma that belongs to It. I havent' checked the link but have good experiences of North American Indan shamanistic practices. I also understand that Maharishi has spoken highly of the Indians, as well as the need for USA to protect their knowledge. Perhaps in there lies a template for what life on North America will be after USA is over and done with?
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I posted a short blog on TM-Free. A respondent doubted my interpretation of Guru Dev's teachings on siddhis so I went back to the text of his satsang, and I re-read the relevant section, about enlisting the help of the deity of the mantra that siddhis can also come from Yakshas, Bhutas, Pretas and Pishachas.. You might be interested to check it out http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2007/02/tm-gods-siddhis.html Not really, Paul. What you say just tells me that you've missed pretty much the whole point not only Sidhi practice and its effects, but also that of TM meditation. Are you sure it's TM you learned?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, deep.peace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a short post to mention that Oprah's show yesterday was about staying young, most of it was nothing special and silly really. Than she had a guest, a woman who lived in N.Y., a black woman, Oprah pulled her from the audience and joked at guessing how old she was. The woman looked to be 35 at the most, well it turned out she was 70! When asked her secret the woman mentioned years of Transcendental Meditation. * from the global good news site: The Oprah Winfrey Show which aired February 5, featured 11 women who are defying the stereotypes of aging and living active, youthful lives. One guest credited her years of practice of the Transcendental Meditation Technique for her energy, radiant looks, and bliss at the age of 70. It is a joy for Global Good News service to feature this news, which indicates the success of the life-supporting programmes Maharishi has designed to bring fulfilment to the field of health. The youthful-looking Evonne, who leads an active life of walking, bicycle riding, rollerblading, and dancing, said that when she was 22 she was looking for a way to 'revolutionize her life', and was introduced to the Transcendental Meditation Technique. She said on the show, 'It opened the door for me seeing my inner bliss, and from then on, it's been up, up, up!' She also stated, 'And I think it's because I've opened inwardly that I just feel the world's my oyster.'
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: I for one am happy to see you, and Barry and Paul and Vaj (believe it or not) here, and Peter, Barry2, nabluso108, Rick, Llundrub,Tom, peterklutz, R Gimbel, spairaig, and everyone else on here. The thing that binds all of us is a deep commitment to spiritual discovery and integration. We are all Masters here in one way or another. And each of us having our own points of view, as we necessarily do after the aggregate centuries of spiritual pracice evident on FFL (no dabblers here!). We challenge one another and ourselves, sometimes mercilessly, and then the dialogue mutates and evolves into something completely different. I wouldn't have it any other way. Nicely said. Thanks for mentioning Peter Klutz on your list.. Flattering will get you anywhere :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'The Siddhis, Ghosts Powers'
Just stay sattvic and don't put your attention on ugga-buggas and you'll be fine. --- Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you feel that you have taken on some extaneous energy; sometimes you could consult with someone who has worked with these energy's to clear them; some Native Americans are familiar with clearing energy's. There is someone here in Seattle: http://dariuszrawa.com/home.html He seems to have a good grasp on this subject... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The youthful-looking Evonne, who leads an active life of walking, bicycle riding, rollerblading, and dancing, said that when she was 22 she was looking for a way to 'revolutionize her life', and was introduced to the Transcendental Meditation Technique. Hmmm. 70 now, 22 then, that makes 48 years ago. Where was Maharishi teaching TM in 1959?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
On Feb 7, 2007, at 6:24 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The youthful-looking Evonne, who leads an active life of walking, bicycle riding, rollerblading, and dancing, said that when she was 22 she was looking for a way to 'revolutionize her life', and was introduced to the Transcendental Meditation Technique. Hmmm. 70 now, 22 then, that makes 48 years ago. Where was Maharishi teaching TM in 1959? An early Harlem tour? Maybe she looks young but lost her memory? I would guess if that's really the case, it's more genetic than anything else. But doesn't this look like this might be a TMO plant? I wonder how much she was paid off for? Could this be a shameless attempt to tap the African-American market segment?
[FairfieldLife] Rural campuses urbanize
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/07/education/07campus.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: The youthful-looking Evonne, who leads an active life of walking, bicycle riding, rollerblading, and dancing, said that when she was 22 she was looking for a way to 'revolutionize her life', and was introduced to the Transcendental Meditation Technique. Hmmm. 70 now, 22 then, that makes 48 years ago. Where was Maharishi teaching TM in 1959? Google is your friend. It says that Maharishi first came to the US in 1959. Therefore she would have been one of the first people ever initiated in the US. Doncha wonder what her mantra is?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 7, 2007, at 6:24 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: The youthful-looking Evonne, who leads an active life of walking, bicycle riding, rollerblading, and dancing, said that when she was 22 she was looking for a way to 'revolutionize her life', and was introduced to the Transcendental Meditation Technique. Hmmm. 70 now, 22 then, that makes 48 years ago. Where was Maharishi teaching TM in 1959? An early Harlem tour? Maybe she looks young but lost her memory? I would guess if that's really the case, it's more genetic than anything else. But doesn't this look like this might be a TMO plant? I wonder how much she was paid off for? Could this be a shameless attempt to tap the African-American market segment? See my followup. Her story is possible. Knowing the world of television a bit and the craziness it engenders, if there is any hanky- panky going on here, it's probably more likely that a guest at the taping, knowing the topic and looking young for her age already, might fudge her real age on her 'audience card' in the hope it might get her on Oprah.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: The youthful-looking Evonne, who leads an active life of walking, bicycle riding, rollerblading, and dancing, said that when she was 22 she was looking for a way to 'revolutionize her life', and was introduced to the Transcendental Meditation Technique. Hmmm. 70 now, 22 then, that makes 48 years ago. Where was Maharishi teaching TM in 1959? * The lady may be conflating TM with whatever meditation she practices, not an uncommon thing, but it's possible that she did learn TM in 59 like Lutes and a few others. http://www.tm.org/maharishi/popups/verrill.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: The youthful-looking Evonne, who leads an active life of walking, bicycle riding, rollerblading, and dancing, said that when she was 22 she was looking for a way to 'revolutionize her life', and was introduced to the Transcendental Meditation Technique. Hmmm. 70 now, 22 then, that makes 48 years ago. Where was Maharishi teaching TM in 1959? In the United States.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 7, 2007, at 6:24 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: The youthful-looking Evonne, who leads an active life of walking, bicycle riding, rollerblading, and dancing, said that when she was 22 she was looking for a way to 'revolutionize her life', and was introduced to the Transcendental Meditation Technique. Hmmm. 70 now, 22 then, that makes 48 years ago. Where was Maharishi teaching TM in 1959? An early Harlem tour? Right, since of course all the black people in the United States lived in Harlem at the time. Maybe she looks young but lost her memory? I would guess if that's really the case, it's more genetic than anything else. But doesn't this look like this might be a TMO plant? I wonder how much she was paid off for? Could this be a shameless attempt to tap the African-American market segment? You mean, like all the studies that have been done showing that TM reduces hypertension in black people? Truly shameless.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, deep.peace deep.peace@ wrote: Just a short post to mention that Oprah's show yesterday was about staying young, most of it was nothing special and silly really. Than she had a guest, a woman who lived in N.Y., a black woman, Oprah pulled her from the audience and joked at guessing how old she was. The woman looked to be 35 at the most, well it turned out she was 70! When asked her secret the woman mentioned years of Transcendental Meditation. From the Oprah Winfrey Show site: What's Evonne's secret to looking so incredibly young? 'Moisturize, moisturize, moisturize!' Evonne says. 'Every morning [when] I get up, before I open the door to pick up my New York Times, I have moisturizer on.' http://tinyurl.com/26nxx9 * from the global good news site: The Oprah Winfrey Show which aired February 5, featured 11 women who are defying the stereotypes of aging and living active, youthful lives. One guest credited her years of practice of the Transcendental Meditation Technique for her energy, radiant looks, and bliss at the age of 70. It is a joy for Global Good News service to feature this news, which indicates the success of the life-supporting programmes Maharishi has designed to bring fulfilment to the field of health. The youthful-looking Evonne, who leads an active life of walking, bicycle riding, rollerblading, and dancing, said that when she was 22 she was looking for a way to 'revolutionize her life', and was introduced to the Transcendental Meditation Technique. She said on the show, 'It opened the door for me seeing my inner bliss, and from then on, it's been up, up, up!' She also stated, 'And I think it's because I've opened inwardly that I just feel the world's my oyster.'
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The lady may be conflating TM with whatever meditation she practices, not an uncommon thing, but it's possible that she did learn TM in 59 like Lutes and a few others. Could also have been in '60, depending on when her birthday is and when during the year she learned.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Feb 7, 2007, at 1:39 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Show of hands. Is there anyone here -- *anyone* -- who, after a year and a half, doesn't believe that Judy came to FFL stalking Vaj, Paul and myself? As I recall, Barry, Judy originally came over here (and possibly Shemp as well) because you invited her. That's correct. (I had been registered as a member of FFL for a couple of years previously, but I just came here to see what was going on occasionally and had never posted.) Barry issued his invitation shortly after the whole Raja thing and the millionaires' course had materialized, and I thought it would be interesting to see how folks were reacting. I for one am happy to see you, and Barry and Paul and Vaj (believe it or not) here, and Peter, Barry2, nabluso108, Rick, Llundrub,Tom, peterklutz, R Gimbel, spairaig, and everyone else on here. The thing that binds all of us is a deep commitment to spiritual discovery and integration. We are all Masters here in one way or another. And each of us having our own points of view, as we necessarily do after the aggregate centuries of spiritual pracice evident on FFL (no dabblers here!). We challenge one another and ourselves, sometimes mercilessly, and then the dialogue mutates and evolves into something completely different. I wouldn't have it any other way. This place is a special gift for us to discuss and argue and complement one another on topics that are just about unique with regard to the depth and openess with which they are discussed. And it is both our differences and shared interests and experiences that make it such a compelling forum. Thank you everyone and God (or fill in with diety of choice) bless you All! I'm minded of Zelazny's Possibly Proper Litany and other prayers: The Possibly Proper Death Litany Insofar as I may be heard by anything, which may or may not care what I say, I ask, if it matters, that you be forgiven for anything you may have done or failed to do which requires forgiveness. Conversely, if not forgiveness but something else may be required to insure any possible benefit for which you may be eligible after the destruction of your body, I ask that this, whatever it may be, be granted or withheld, as the case may be, in such a manner as to insure your receiving said benefit. I ask this in my capacity as your elected intermediary between yourself and that which may not be yourself, but which may have an interest in the matter of your receiving as much as it is possible for you to receive of this thing, and which may in some way be influenced by this ceremony. Amen. Then into the hands of Whatever May Be that is greater than life or death, I resign myself -- if this act will be of any assistance in preserving my life. If it will not, I do not. If my saying this thing at all be presumptuous, and therefore not well received by Whatever may or may not care to listen, then I withdraw the statement and ask forgiveness, if this thing be desired. If not, I do not. On the other hand ... (at this point, Madrak is interrupted, as his companion feels the accomplishment of the objective of Madrak's prayer -- and the preservation of his own life -- will be better served by getting the hell out of there). Hallowed be thy name, if a name thou hast and any desire to see it hallowed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: The youthful-looking Evonne, who leads an active life of walking, bicycle riding, rollerblading, and dancing, said that when she was 22 she was looking for a way to 'revolutionize her life', and was introduced to the Transcendental Meditation Technique. Hmmm. 70 now, 22 then, that makes 48 years ago. Where was Maharishi teaching TM in 1959? LA
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: The youthful-looking Evonne, who leads an active life of walking, bicycle riding, rollerblading, and dancing, said that when she was 22 she was looking for a way to 'revolutionize her life', and was introduced to the Transcendental Meditation Technique. Hmmm. 70 now, 22 then, that makes 48 years ago. Where was Maharishi teaching TM in 1959? * The lady may be conflating TM with whatever meditation she practices, not an uncommon thing, but it's possible that she did learn TM in 59 like Lutes and a few others. http://www.tm.org/maharishi/popups/verrill.html Quite a few hundreds of people learned TM at the Olsen's house at that time.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: The youthful-looking Evonne, who leads an active life of walking, bicycle riding, rollerblading, and dancing, said that when she was 22 she was looking for a way to 'revolutionize her life', and was introduced to the Transcendental Meditation Technique. Hmmm. 70 now, 22 then, that makes 48 years ago. Where was Maharishi teaching TM in 1959? LA It's really quite striking how the strident TM critics here are so threatened by the notion that a woman might have found TM beneficial and is willing to say so in public that they have to try to find ways to impugn her integrity (in one particularly unfortunate case, using frankly racist language to do so). Say, Jim, is this what you think of when you talk about a deep commitment to spiritual discovery and integration that binds us all?
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
Nice one Spraig, that was cool. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Feb 7, 2007, at 1:39 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Show of hands. Is there anyone here -- *anyone* -- who, after a year and a half, doesn't believe that Judy came to FFL stalking Vaj, Paul and myself? As I recall, Barry, Judy originally came over here (and possibly Shemp as well) because you invited her. That's correct. (I had been registered as a member of FFL for a couple of years previously, but I just came here to see what was going on occasionally and had never posted.) Barry issued his invitation shortly after the whole Raja thing and the millionaires' course had materialized, and I thought it would be interesting to see how folks were reacting. I for one am happy to see you, and Barry and Paul and Vaj (believe it or not) here, and Peter, Barry2, nabluso108, Rick, Llundrub,Tom, peterklutz, R Gimbel, spairaig, and everyone else on here. The thing that binds all of us is a deep commitment to spiritual discovery and integration. We are all Masters here in one way or another. And each of us having our own points of view, as we necessarily do after the aggregate centuries of spiritual pracice evident on FFL (no dabblers here!). We challenge one another and ourselves, sometimes mercilessly, and then the dialogue mutates and evolves into something completely different. I wouldn't have it any other way. This place is a special gift for us to discuss and argue and complement one another on topics that are just about unique with regard to the depth and openess with which they are discussed. And it is both our differences and shared interests and experiences that make it such a compelling forum. Thank you everyone and God (or fill in with diety of choice) bless you All! I'm minded of Zelazny's Possibly Proper Litany and other prayers: The Possibly Proper Death Litany Insofar as I may be heard by anything, which may or may not care what I say, I ask, if it matters, that you be forgiven for anything you may have done or failed to do which requires forgiveness. Conversely, if not forgiveness but something else may be required to insure any possible benefit for which you may be eligible after the destruction of your body, I ask that this, whatever it may be, be granted or withheld, as the case may be, in such a manner as to insure your receiving said benefit. I ask this in my capacity as your elected intermediary between yourself and that which may not be yourself, but which may have an interest in the matter of your receiving as much as it is possible for you to receive of this thing, and which may in some way be influenced by this ceremony. Amen. Then into the hands of Whatever May Be that is greater than life or death, I resign myself -- if this act will be of any assistance in preserving my life. If it will not, I do not. If my saying this thing at all be presumptuous, and therefore not well received by Whatever may or may not care to listen, then I withdraw the statement and ask forgiveness, if this thing be desired. If not, I do not. On the other hand ... (at this point, Madrak is interrupted, as his companion feels the accomplishment of the objective of Madrak's prayer -- and the preservation of his own life -- will be better served by getting the hell out of there). Hallowed be thy name, if a name thou hast and any desire to see it hallowed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
---http://www.amazingabilities.com/charlie11a.html (Vin Daczynski says 1959...; (he was a Lutes Groupie).Some of the oldtimers told me that MMY appeared at the Masquer's Club in L.A.; possibly in 1959. Charlie may have met MMY there or at the Olsen's. I believe that Vin is exaggerating things a bit, re: Charlie. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: The youthful-looking Evonne, who leads an active life of walking, bicycle riding, rollerblading, and dancing, said that when she was 22 she was looking for a way to 'revolutionize her life', and was introduced to the Transcendental Meditation Technique. Hmmm. 70 now, 22 then, that makes 48 years ago. Where was Maharishi teaching TM in 1959? * The lady may be conflating TM with whatever meditation she practices, not an uncommon thing, but it's possible that she did learn TM in 59 like Lutes and a few others. http://www.tm.org/maharishi/popups/verrill.html Quite a few hundreds of people learned TM at the Olsen's house at that time.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
On Feb 7, 2007, at 6:39 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 7, 2007, at 6:24 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: The youthful-looking Evonne, who leads an active life of walking, bicycle riding, rollerblading, and dancing, said that when she was 22 she was looking for a way to 'revolutionize her life', and was introduced to the Transcendental Meditation Technique. Hmmm. 70 now, 22 then, that makes 48 years ago. Where was Maharishi teaching TM in 1959? An early Harlem tour? Maybe she looks young but lost her memory? I would guess if that's really the case, it's more genetic than anything else. But doesn't this look like this might be a TMO plant? I wonder how much she was paid off for? Could this be a shameless attempt to tap the African-American market segment? See my followup. Her story is possible. You never know.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: The youthful-looking Evonne, who leads an active life of walking, bicycle riding, rollerblading, and dancing, said that when she was 22 she was looking for a way to 'revolutionize her life', and was introduced to the Transcendental Meditation Technique. Hmmm. 70 now, 22 then, that makes 48 years ago. Where was Maharishi teaching TM in 1959? LA It's really quite striking how the strident TM critics here are so threatened by the notion that a woman might have found TM beneficial and is willing to say so in public that they have to try to find ways to impugn her integrity (in one particularly unfortunate case, using frankly racist language to do so). Say, Jim, is this what you think of when you talk about a deep commitment to spiritual discovery and integration that binds us all? Yep.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
In a message dated 2/7/07 5:26:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmmm. 70 now, 22 then, that makes 48 years ago. Where was Maharishi teaching TM in 1959? Hawaii, Maybe L.A.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
In a message dated 2/7/07 5:40:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Google is your friend. It says that Maharishi first came to the US in 1959. Therefore she would have been one of the first people ever initiated in the US. Doncha wonder what her mantra is? Shaneeka, Shaneeka, Shaneeka, Shaneeka..
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMorg Accounting Controls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Archer rick@ wrote: I was there and I'm impressed with your memory of the event. I don't know whose idea it was to have the open presentation of the accounting firms. Probably MMY's, but if it wasn't his, you can bet your life that he approved it before it happened. Doug writing: It was a singular moment in the TM movement. Really great theatre. Things obviously had gotten big and some thought brought the interview with the accounting firms. Money and resources were being mobilized for maharishi and `the teaching'it also probably helped with some deals then probably straightened out some of the flow of monies around and across borders then too. It was a time of cowboy finance on whims. Still is evidently. Became more strictly Indian business around then after. Things were being done with dedication for Maharishi and `the teaching' then. Things being given to him, things bought for him to do the things of the movement then. Had been some looking to buying the hotels in France, Switzerland and the Austrian Italian Alps. Properties being acquired on behalf of things TMO in the United States too. Maharishi was watching what was being done and some property things popped for by wealthy people. Maharishi then really learning and figuring out the how to do real estate with other people's money and became pretty good at it. Still is evidently. -Doug in FF It's my contention that the TMO is not a teaching organization in the west anymore. It has transformed itself into a fund raising and real estate organization. Teaching seems only incidental. A few in the PR barraged press are beginning to comment on this as well. Are there people leaning TM anywhere in the world? JohnY Doug writing: While you are still around reading posting to FFL, were you there at one of the international leaders meetings in Arosa Switzerland where account execs from a couple of the big international accounting firms were brought in and interviewed? One of the firms was Arthur Anderson then. Everyone in the TM org seemed was there, the regional co-ordinators, national and international leaders and elders of the movement like Charlie Lutes and Walter Koch, Jerry Jarvis and such. It was one of those bi- annual ATR's where the active teaching-TM movement congregated with Maharishi then. These account execs gave their pitches for the business of the TM movement then in opoen session. One played to the crowd and told everyone how great they were. The other stepped back and explained that `non-profits' need to understand their goals and mission, and then devise accounting controls that will help them see how they are doing. He explained that many non-profits instead judge their success by how many glossy publications they produce etc. In the end the first guy got the nod from the crowd. It was an amazing charade with Maharishi on the couch at the head of the room. My question, who pushed to have these accounting firms come in? The elders of the movement like Walter Koch? Charlie Lutes? Some Europeans? They were business people and watching what was going on then. The movement and Maharishi were in ascendancy then. I do not think anything happened with the accounting then after. It was an exceercise. Probably got further out-sourced to India. Who, in the middle, facilitated bringing those accounting firms in to interview? Just curious about the who and dynamics then. It was very much a produced event in the movement at that level. -Doug in Iowa .
[FairfieldLife] World Congress on Psychology and Spirituality
World Congress on Psychology and Spirituality Delhi, India January 5-8, 2008 Globalizing Our Work www.WorldCongressPS2008.org KEYNOTES BY Lama Samdhong Rinpoche, the Prime Minister of Tibet-in-Exile, The Dharma of Cultural Preservation. BKS Iyengar, The Future of Spiritual Practice and Teaching in the World Robert Thurman, Chair of Indo-Tibetan Buddhist Studies, Columbia University (expected), Global Spiritual Renaissance Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, The Future of Spirituality in the World Stan and Christina Grof, The Indian Contribution to Transpersonal Psychology Karan Singh, Kashmir Member of the Indian Parliament, Spirituality and Political Leadership Sudhir Kakar, Psychology and Spirituality The Congress would like to thank Andrey Bunich, http://bunich.org/bio/ for his major gift toward the success of the Congress JC Kapur http://www.worldaffairsjournal.com/masthead.html for sponsoring the World is One Family pre-conference event at Surya Farms, Delhi, India Sri Aurobindo Ashram, Delhi, India http://www.miraura.org/grp/ind/ind- cnt.html for hosting the World Fusion All Night Youth Event The European Transpersonal Association is convening a conference on Forgiveness and Terror in Freiburg, Germany, September 21-24 2007 www.forgiving-freiburg2007.de in conjunction with the India 2008 Congress, If your organization would like to associate a 2007 event with the World Congress in India 2008, please contact me. Stuart Sovatsky, Congress Co-convener Stuart Sovatsky,PhD http://home.jps.net/~stuartcs?about.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] World Congress on Psychology and Spirituality
Vaj, you forgot to mention this guy: Philosophy is a Shear waste of time. --Maharishi Name: Jonathan C. Shear, PhD Qualification: PhD Category: Presenter Country: USA Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:World Congress on Psychology and Spirituality Delhi, India January 5-8, 2008 Globalizing Our Work www.WorldCongressPS2008.org KEYNOTES BY Lama Samdhong Rinpoche, the Prime Minister of Tibet-in-Exile, The Dharma of Cultural Preservation. BKS Iyengar, The Future of Spiritual Practice and Teaching in the World Robert Thurman, Chair of Indo-Tibetan Buddhist Studies, Columbia University (expected), Global Spiritual Renaissance Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, The Future of Spirituality in the World Stan and Christina Grof, The Indian Contribution to Transpersonal Psychology Karan Singh, Kashmir Member of the Indian Parliament, Spirituality and Political Leadership Sudhir Kakar, Psychology and Spirituality The Congress would like to thank Andrey Bunich, http://bunich.org/bio/ for his major gift toward the success of the Congress JC Kapur http://www.worldaffairsjournal.com/masthead.html for sponsoring the World is One Family pre-conference event at Surya Farms, Delhi, India Sri Aurobindo Ashram, Delhi, India http://www.miraura.org/grp/ind/ind-cnt.html for hosting the World Fusion All Night Youth Event The European Transpersonal Association is convening a conference on Forgiveness and Terror in Freiburg, Germany, September 21-24 2007 www.forgiving-freiburg2007.de in conjunction with the India 2008 Congress, If your organization would like to associate a 2007 event with the World Congress in India 2008, please contact me. Stuart Sovatsky, Congress Co-convener Stuart Sovatsky,PhD http://home.jps.net/~stuartcs?about.html - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
-- Stoop not down, therefore, Unto the Darkly-Splendid World. Wherein continually lieth A faithless Depth And Hades wrapped in clouds, Delighting in unintelligible Images. Precipitous, winding, A Black, ever-rolling Abyss Ever espousing a Body Unluminous, Formless, and Void. ...The Chaldean Oracles of Zoraster. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice one Spraig, that was cool. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Feb 7, 2007, at 1:39 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Show of hands. Is there anyone here -- *anyone* -- who, after a year and a half, doesn't believe that Judy came to FFL stalking Vaj, Paul and myself? As I recall, Barry, Judy originally came over here (and possibly Shemp as well) because you invited her. That's correct. (I had been registered as a member of FFL for a couple of years previously, but I just came here to see what was going on occasionally and had never posted.) Barry issued his invitation shortly after the whole Raja thing and the millionaires' course had materialized, and I thought it would be interesting to see how folks were reacting. I for one am happy to see you, and Barry and Paul and Vaj (believe it or not) here, and Peter, Barry2, nabluso108, Rick, Llundrub,Tom, peterklutz, R Gimbel, spairaig, and everyone else on here. The thing that binds all of us is a deep commitment to spiritual discovery and integration. We are all Masters here in one way or another. And each of us having our own points of view, as we necessarily do after the aggregate centuries of spiritual pracice evident on FFL (no dabblers here!). We challenge one another and ourselves, sometimes mercilessly, and then the dialogue mutates and evolves into something completely different. I wouldn't have it any other way. This place is a special gift for us to discuss and argue and complement one another on topics that are just about unique with regard to the depth and openess with which they are discussed. And it is both our differences and shared interests and experiences that make it such a compelling forum. Thank you everyone and God (or fill in with diety of choice) bless you All! I'm minded of Zelazny's Possibly Proper Litany and other prayers: The Possibly Proper Death Litany Insofar as I may be heard by anything, which may or may not care what I say, I ask, if it matters, that you be forgiven for anything you may have done or failed to do which requires forgiveness. Conversely, if not forgiveness but something else may be required to insure any possible benefit for which you may be eligible after the destruction of your body, I ask that this, whatever it may be, be granted or withheld, as the case may be, in such a manner as to insure your receiving said benefit. I ask this in my capacity as your elected intermediary between yourself and that which may not be yourself, but which may have an interest in the matter of your receiving as much as it is possible for you to receive of this thing, and which may in some way be influenced by this ceremony. Amen. Then into the hands of Whatever May Be that is greater than life or death, I resign myself -- if this act will be of any assistance in preserving my life. If it will not, I do not. If my saying this thing at all be presumptuous, and therefore not well received by Whatever may or may not care to listen, then I withdraw the statement and ask forgiveness, if this thing be desired. If not, I do not. On the other hand ... (at this point, Madrak is interrupted, as his companion feels the accomplishment of the objective of Madrak's prayer -- and the preservation of his own life -- will be better served by getting the hell out of there). Hallowed be thy name, if a name thou hast and any desire to see it hallowed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMorg Accounting Controls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's my contention that the TMO is not a teaching organization in the west anymore. It has transformed itself into a fund raising and real estate organization. Teaching seems only incidental. A few in the PR barraged press are beginning to comment on this as well. Are there people leaning TM anywhere in the world? JohnY Lot of truth in that statement John, at least that's my feeling.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMorg Accounting Controls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: It's my contention that the TMO is not a teaching organization in the west anymore. It has transformed itself into a fund raising and real estate organization. Teaching seems only incidental. A few in the PR barraged press are beginning to comment on this as well. Are there people leaning TM anywhere in the world? JohnY BTW, I have heard that Mike S. is still teaching 6+ people a month in Florida under the 'transcendental stress management program' name to comply with trade and service mark law after his court case. No mention of MMY just the rest of the tradition. So at a reasonable price, there is still some demand. JohnY Lot of truth in that statement John, at least that's my feeling.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: The youthful-looking Evonne, who leads an active life of walking, bicycle riding, rollerblading, and dancing, said that when she was 22 she was looking for a way to 'revolutionize her life', and was introduced to the Transcendental Meditation Technique. Hmmm. 70 now, 22 then, that makes 48 years ago. Where was Maharishi teaching TM in 1959? LA It's really quite striking how the strident TM critics here are so threatened by the notion that a woman might have found TM beneficial and is willing to say so in public that they have to try to find ways to impugn her integrity (in one particularly unfortunate case, using frankly racist language to do so). Say, Jim, is this what you think of when you talk about a deep commitment to spiritual discovery and integration that binds us all? Yep. OK. I choose not to be bound to that kind of moral vacuity, so please leave me out of any future lists of bindees you may want to post.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: The youthful-looking Evonne, who leads an active life of walking, bicycle riding, rollerblading, and dancing, said that when she was 22 she was looking for a way to 'revolutionize her life', and was introduced to the Transcendental Meditation Technique. Hmmm. 70 now, 22 then, that makes 48 years ago. Where was Maharishi teaching TM in 1959? LA It's really quite striking how the strident TM critics here are so threatened by the notion that a woman might have found TM beneficial and is willing to say so in public that they have to try to find ways to impugn her integrity (in one particularly unfortunate case, using frankly racist language to do so). Say, Jim, is this what you think of when you talk about a deep commitment to spiritual discovery and integration that binds us all? Yep. OK. I choose not to be bound to that kind of moral vacuity, so please leave me out of any future lists of bindees you may want to post. Just ignore it or strenuously object or try to argue with me about it-- this is a public forum. There have been times when people have requested rules applied to various postings- Barry and new morning come to mind, and nothing came of it. I too tried to shut down one poster here recently, and nothing came of it either. Applying rules here just doesn't work, and a good thing too.
[FairfieldLife] Christopher Walken interviews a centaur
From Saturday Night Live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2vJriMN-nseurl=
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah Winfrey show yesterday, Feb. 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: The youthful-looking Evonne, who leads an active life of walking, bicycle riding, rollerblading, and dancing, said that when she was 22 she was looking for a way to 'revolutionize her life', and was introduced to the Transcendental Meditation Technique. Hmmm. 70 now, 22 then, that makes 48 years ago. Where was Maharishi teaching TM in 1959? LA It's really quite striking how the strident TM critics here are so threatened by the notion that a woman might have found TM beneficial and is willing to say so in public that they have to try to find ways to impugn her integrity (in one particularly unfortunate case, using frankly racist language to do so). Say, Jim, is this what you think of when you talk about a deep commitment to spiritual discovery and integration that binds us all? Yep. OK. I choose not to be bound to that kind of moral vacuity, so please leave me out of any future lists of bindees you may want to post. Just ignore it or strenuously object or try to argue with me about it-- this is a public forum. There have been times when people have requested rules applied to various postings- Barry and new morning come to mind, and nothing came of it. I too tried to shut down one poster here recently, and nothing came of it either. Applying rules here just doesn't work, and a good thing too. My request stands as I stated it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free; 'TM, gods siddhis'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mathatbrahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Stoop not down, therefore, Unto the Darkly-Splendid World. Wherein continually lieth A faithless Depth And Hades wrapped in clouds, Delighting in unintelligible Images. Precipitous, winding, A Black, ever-rolling Abyss Ever espousing a Body Unluminous, Formless, and Void. ...The Chaldean Oracles of Zoraster. A beautiful and useful quote- Thanks for posting this!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Christopher Walken interviews a centaur
Demented Genius. At Close Range is my favorite movie of his. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Saturday Night Live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2vJriMN-nseurl=
[FairfieldLife] Re: Christopher Walken interviews a centaur
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Demented Genius. At Close Range is my favorite movie of his. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: From Saturday Night Live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2vJriMN-nseurl=
[FairfieldLife] Re: Christopher Walken interviews a centaur
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Demented Genius. At Close Range is my favorite movie of his. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: From Saturday Night Live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2vJriMN-nseurl=
[FairfieldLife] Re: Christopher Walken interviews a centaur
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Demented Genius. At Close Range is my favorite movie of his. I haven't seen that many of his films. I don't particularly care for him in the evil psycho roles in which he's usually cast. He seems to me to be just phoning it in most of the time with those. There's no conflict in those characters. I adore the comedy stuff he's done on SNL--just demented, as you say--and I love him in interviews. And his dancing...! He used to be a hoofer, and he's amazing when he can be persuaded to do a turn. I wish he'd do more straight non-evil dramatic roles, and more comedy. I don't think he's had that many opportunities to stretch himself as an actor, and he has plenty of room to do so. A waste of real brilliance, if you ask me. Love to see him in something directed by Clint Eastwood. Love to see him try Hamlet. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: From Saturday Night Live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2vJriMN-nseurl=
[FairfieldLife] Re: Saints
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- authfriend wrote: Just for da record, guys, as I understand it, you don't get no virgins unless you die as a martyr for Islam. Didja see this, by Steve Martin, in The New Yorker? http://tinyurl.com/2ymp7n several belly laughs Judy having a belly laugh. Yeah, thanks for the visual. Ew. The Steve Martin piece was funny though.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Saints
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- authfriend wrote: Just for da record, guys, as I understand it, you don't get no virgins unless you die as a martyr for Islam. Didja see this, by Steve Martin, in The New Yorker? http://tinyurl.com/2ymp7n several belly laughs Judy having a belly laugh. Yeah, thanks for the visual. Ew. I have quite a nice belly, actually. You're missing out. The Steve Martin piece was funny though.
