[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Nabby for real?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He said something a couple of weeks ago that left me with the doubt that he might just be a really cool, free-thinking guy who poses as a holier-than-thou hypocrite just for fun. Namely, that if you can get animals to meditate if you check their meditation daily for a long time. Hard to believe that he could seriously mean that, and so if he doesn't, is he spoofing us the rest of the time? I don't think animals or plants, rocks, etc.. Necessarily need to meditate. Meditation is to get out of the ego. Animals, plants and minerals don't have egos. So, this whole discussion, seems a bit redundant. Maharishi said, that humans have a unique nervous system, Which allows self awareness, and therefore allows for expansion of that self awareness. Animals don't have this. No ego, no time, no problem. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Some side-effects of mastering levitation (bhuumi-tyaaga)?
This quote from Yoga-tattva-upanishad seems to mention several side-effects of mastering(?) levitation (bhuumi-tyaaga, Yogic Flying?): svalpa.n vaa bahudhaa duHkha.n yogii na vyathate tadaa .. 56.. alpamuutrapuriishhashcha svalpanidrashcha jaayate . kiilavo dR^ishhikaa laalaa svedadurgandhataanane .. 57.. etaani sarvathaa tasya na jaayante tataH param.h . tato.adhikataraabhyaasaadbalamutpadyate bahu .. 58.. yena bhuuchara siddhiH syaadbhuucharaaNaa.n jaye kshamaH . vyaaghro vaa sharabho vyaapi gajo gavaya eva vaa .. 59.. si.nho vaa yoginaa tena mriyante hastataaDitaaH . kandarpasya yathaa ruupa.n tathaa syaadapi yoginaH .. 60.. tadruupavashagaa naaryaH kaa~Nkshante tasya sa~Ngamam.h . yadi sa~Nga.n karotyeshha tasya bindukshayo bhavet.h .. 61.. varjayitvaa striyaaH sa~Nga.n kuryaadabhyaasamaadaraat.h . yogino.a~Nge sugandhashcha jaayate bindudhaaraNaat.h .. 62.. I'll try to come up with a very free translation that gives just a general idea of the text above: Neither small (svalpa) or big (bahudhaa: much) bad things (duHkham) disturb (vyathate) that yogii then (tadaa). He starts (jaayate: [this condition, or stuff] is born) to have scarce (alpa) pee (muutra) and shit (puurii) and needs very little (svalpa) sleep (nidraa). kiilava(??) visible (dRSikaa?) saliva (laalaa) and bad smelling sweat and breath disappear after that. (not translation, but description of the contents:) After that are mentioned several animals that the yogii can kill (mriyate) by bare hands (tiger, lion, elephant, etc.) The yogii becomes like a great lover (kandarpa) and women (naaryaaH) want (kaankSante) to have sex with him (samgamam: together-going). If he does fuck them, the result is bindukSaya(well,duh). ?If he can avoid fvcking the ladies?, the result is his limbs begin to smell good (sugandha) because of preserving the semen (bindudhaaraNaat; that seems the only reasonable meaning for that word in this context, doesn't it?).
[FairfieldLife] Scientists Fulfilling Patanjali's Conjecture about Invisibility?
To All: Is it possible to have an invisible man? Maybe, not by mantras but hard science. Please, read this article from Reuters. Invisibility cloak one step closer, scientists say WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Scientists have created two new types of materials that can bend light the wrong way, creating the first step toward an invisibility cloaking device. One approach uses a type of fishnet of metal layers to reverse the direction of light, while another uses tiny silver wires, both at the nanoscale level. Both are so-called metamaterials -- artificially engineered structures that have properties not seen in nature, such as negative refractive index. The two teams were working separately under the direction of Xiang Zhang of the Nanoscale Science and Engineering Center at the University of California, Berkeley with U.S. government funding. One team reported its findings in the journal Science and the other in the journal Nature. Each new material works to reverse light in limited wavelengths, so no one will be using them to hide buildings from satellites, said Jason Valentine, who worked on one of the projects. We are not actually cloaking anything, Valentine said in a telephone interview. I don't think we have to worry about invisible people walking around any time soon. To be honest, we are just at the beginning of doing anything like that. Valentine's team made a material that affects light near the visible spectrum, in a region used in fiber optics. In naturally occurring material, the index of refraction, a measure of how light bends in a medium, is positive, he said
[FairfieldLife] Sex Machine to all the Chicks Dies
To All: Mr. Isaac Hayes was well known for his Theme from Shaft earning him acclaim (or notoriety) for lyrics like, ...he's a bad mother..(shut yo' mouth). Here's the obit from the NY Times. Isaac Hayes, 65, a Creator of '70s Soul Style, Dies By BEN SISARIO Published: August 10, 2008 Isaac Hayes, the singer and songwriter whose luxurious, strutting funk arrangements in songs like Theme From `Shaft' defined the glories and excesses of soul music in the early 1970s, died on Sunday in East Memphis, Tenn. He was 65. After his first heyday in the world of soul, Mr. Hayes found ways to revive his career. Above, hosting his radio show in 1997. Comedy Central His character in the cartoon series South Park. The Shelby County Sheriff's Office said that Mr. Hayes's wife, Adjowa, found him collapsed near a treadmill at their home in Cordova, an eastern suburb of Memphis, and he was pronounced dead an hour later. The cause of death was not known. With his lascivious bass-baritone and flamboyant wardrobe, Mr. Hayes developed a musical persona that was an embodiment of the hyper- masculine, street-savvy characters of the so-called blaxploitation films of the era. In his theme song to Gordon Parks's Shaft from 1971, the title character is summed up in a line that has become a classic of kitsch: Who's a black private dick/Who's a sex machine to all the chicks? (Furthermore: He's a complicated man/But no one understands him but his woman.) The Shaft theme won an Academy Award and has become one of his best- known songs. But Mr. Hayes's career stretched far beyond soundtracks. For much of the 1960s and into the '70s he was one of the principal songwriters and performers for Stax Records, the trailblazing Memphis RB label, and in the 1990s he revived his career by providing the voice for the amorous and wise Chef on the cable television show South Park. Isaac Hayes was born Aug. 20, 1942, in a tin shack in rural Covington, Tenn., to a mother who died early and a father who left home. He was raised largely by his grandparents, and worked in cotton fields while going to school. He began playing in local bands, and by early 1964, when he was 21, he was working as a backup musician for Stax. His first session was with Otis Redding. Soon he began writing songs with David Porter, and their music numbers like Soul Man and Hold On, I'm Comin' for Sam and Dave, and B-A-B-Y for Carla Thomas came to embody the Stax aesthetic. It was tight, catchy pop, but full of sweat and grit, a proudly unpolished Southern alternative to Motown. By the late 1960s Mr. Hayes was stepping out as a solo artist, and his reputation grew as much for his dress as for his music. The cover of his 1969 album, Hot Buttered Soul, pictured him in customary style: shaved head, dark shades, gold chains, bare chest. The album was similarly eccentric, consisting of just four songs, including lengthy, elaborate versions of Burt Bacharach and Hal David's Walk On By and Jimmy Webb's By the Time I Get to Phoenix. It also included spoken segments that he called raps, and the album became one of his biggest hits, reaching No. 8. When he was approached to create the score to Shaft, one of the first blaxploitation films, Mr. Hayes said he also wanted the lead role. The part went to Richard Roundtree, but Mr. Hayes recorded the music anyway. It was done in four days with several members of the Bar-Kays, one of the house bands at Stax. With a cymbal pattern borrowed from Redding's Try a Little Tenderness, which Mr. Hayes had arranged, the song layered funk guitars, horns, woodwinds and strings, prefiguring disco. It became a No. 1 hit. In 1971 he followed up the Shaft soundtrack with Black Moses, a double album that was another ambitious expansion of the vocabulary of soul music. In its original issue, the cover folded out to reveal a portrait of Mr. Hayes in crucifix form. In the mid-'70s Mr. Hayes's finances collapsed and his music turned explicitly to disco, which turned out to be a career dead end. Through the 1970s and into the '90s he acted in several films, including Escape From New York in 1981 and the spoof I'm Gonna Git You Sucka in 1988. His music from this era sold poorly, but his career revived in 1997 when he began playing Chef on South Park. A Scientologist, he quit the show in 2006, saying that he had been offended by an episode that ridiculed Tom Cruise and other prominent Scientologists. He also had a radio show in New York in the 1990s. Mr. Hayes had health problems in recent years but had continued to tour and work occasionally in film (he had a role in Soul Men, a comedy set for release in November and starring Samuel L. Jackson and Bernie Mac, the comedian who died Saturday). In an interview on Sunday, Mr. Porter, Mr. Hayes's fellow songwriter, said that his friend was recuperating from a stroke, but added that in the middle of all that he was still trying to have
[FairfieldLife] Why America isn't invincible
I was talking to a friend who is very well connected in the TMO and the subject of why the Maharishi Effect doesn't seem to be all that effective (if at all) came up. Turns out I was wrong about everything but I'd never heard the particular set of excuses, erm sorry reasons before. One thing of interest was the floods this year near Vedic city. Contrary to Bobs idea that they were purging the world of sinners and those unfit to join in the wonderful AofE, it turns out they were caused be nature destroying the crops of non-organic farmers! The fools, they'll pay for their crimes against nature. That was according to Bevan anyway. Also MMY had asked him how the IA course was going and Bevan was embarrassed to say that they couldn't seem to ever get the numbers right, MMY apparently laughed and said that this was the protective hand of Mother Nature. If we had gone straight to maximum coherence and maintained it it would have shook America too much, it would have been dramatic and dangerous. So there you go, it's all for a reason. The numbers go up and the resulting chaos from all that power has to be stabilised before the next onslaught. Everything negative in society has to go and Nature will only let it happen gradually. It all makes sense now, yes?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: This conflict looks like it has the makings to develop into a major international issue. I would have liked to see where one of the great prognosticatores predicted this. Wouldn't you like to have seen a prediction along these lines rather than the bold pronouncements that Israel may invade Israel, or the mideast may explode in the such and such a year? * Georgia has a small population and and equally tiny armed forces. Russia will crush them, end of story. This is no big deal. How's the compassion sutra coming along Bob? The only reason why Israel is an issue for the middle east is because international backing makes it an issue, but who knows any Georgians? Other than our esteamed prez, of course...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: This conflict looks like it has the makings to develop into a major international issue. I would have liked to see where one of the great prognosticatores predicted this. Wouldn't you like to have seen a prediction along these lines rather than the bold pronouncements that Israel may invade Israel, or the mideast may explode in the such and such a year? * Georgia has a small population and and equally tiny armed forces. Russia will crush them, end of story. This is no big deal. How's the compassion sutra coming along Bob? ** I did not mean to imply that it is not a disaster for the innocent victims of war in Georgia, only that it could not be a major international issue that you fear because nobody gives a shit what happens to Georgians and even if they did, nobody could face down Russian power in that locale, not any more than they could after years of war in Chechnya, which borders Georgia ( http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/Chechnya.asp ). If you want to contemplate once again the ugly face of war, here's some pathetic photos of this current stupid human trick: http://tinyurl.com/5pz4c6 from: http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/08/11/world/20080811GEORGIA_2.ht ml
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Nabby for real?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: 2nd, you didn't address my question about getting animals to meditate by checking them a lot. If you're going to check them, they first have to have a mantra, so I guess you'd have to initiate them. I never got instructions from MMY on how to initiate animals. Please explain to us how you would do it, Nabby, without giving out any private instructions, of course. By animals, do you just mean cats and dogs, or would you include horses, goats, iguanas, etc? In other words, which species are eligible for initiation and checking? Choose those that are closest to your soul, those with which you have a clear eye-contact. It could be any animal, a fox, dog or horse but the love-factor, the connection to you as a human must be strong. Animals with less love-factor are also open for Intitiaton, in fact many of those long for freedom stronger than many humans, but the work taking them into a human incarnation would be much more ardious, perhaps impossible, for the time being. Any species are eligible, but for us in the West it will usually be easier to work with dogs. Their relationship with us for so many thousands of years is an important factor. In general, but not always, smaller species are easier to work with and will give quicker results. Working with Poodles is recommended, as are German Shepards. You would have to do Puja every single day morning and evening for months on end to see results. In addition, an unending love for that particular brother. Ah, at last we know how Britain was able to escape its Scorpion Nation karma. Nabby and his friends initiated and checked all the scorpions in the UK, first establishing eye contact and then doing puja every single morning and evening for months until the scorpions meditated away their stresses and renounced their evil ways. Just one question, though, Nabby. All those cows that they find out in the American Southwest with their assholes cut out. What's up with that? Do the Space Brothers have a different set of initiation instructions than you do, or are they Off The Program Cutting the cows' assholes out seems a tad extreme to me if what you want to do is initiate them and get them meditating. According to you, all you have to do is establish eye contact with them and then...uh...get a good love factor going on with them. (Could the bit about cutting their assholes out indicate too much zeal on the love factor front among the Space Brothers? Are they trying to cover their...uh...tracks in this regard?) Please clear this mystery up for us, Nabby, as you have cleared up the mystery of how to initiate animals. This cows-without-assholes thing has been sullying the name of the Space Brothers for some time now, and if you could explain it to us, we could get past this silly moo-making and focus on welcoming the Space Brothers to rule the planet the way you want us to. Think of your answer as a step to world peace and a better world for you as well as us. After all, once the Space Brothers are in charge, there will be fewer sinners on FFL and you'll have much more time to develop the love factor with the German Shepherd of your choice.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why America isn't invincible
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was talking to a friend who is very well connected in the TMO and the subject of why the Maharishi Effect doesn't seem to be all that effective (if at all) came up. Turns out I was wrong about everything but I'd never heard the particular set of excuses, erm sorry reasons before. One thing of interest was the floods this year near Vedic city. Contrary to Bobs idea that they were purging the world of sinners and those unfit to join in the wonderful AofE, it turns out they were caused be nature destroying the crops of non-organic farmers! The fools, they'll pay for their crimes against nature. That was according to Bevan anyway. Also MMY had asked him how the IA course was going and Bevan was embarrassed to say that they couldn't seem to ever get the numbers right, MMY apparently laughed and said that this was the protective hand of Mother Nature. If we had gone straight to maximum coherence and maintained it it would have shook America too much, it would have been dramatic and dangerous. So there you go, it's all for a reason. The numbers go up and the resulting chaos from all that power has to be stabilised before the next onslaught. Everything negative in society has to go and Nature will only let it happen gradually. It all makes sense now, yes? Well, I talked to someone, who lives up in Cedar Rapids, and when I visited there, it felt really stressed out, and polluted... She said, that recently, before the floods, she was walking around downtown Cedar Rapids, and was remarking to herself, that the city felt empty of any real culture. The streets were lined with new building, bland life-less feeling, there, she said. She said, that the only real popular club downtown, had been the new bar, that has opened, a little ago, and featured some kind of transexual revue... This was the extent of the high life, in Cedar Rapids, Plus, the whole city was built, in the water plane. So, there you have it. Perhaps it was the same with New Orleans; A basket full of karma there. Used to be used for the Slave Trade, big time... Has all kinds of voodoo, black majik, bars, alcohol, drunks are encouraged, lot's of racial tension.. and so on.. Perhaps Indra and Vaiyuam have intelligence when they create the spin of the storm, the spark of the light, and the sound the thunder. Just perhaps, this is so... R.g.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some side-effects of mastering levitation (bhuumi-tyaaga)?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This quote from Yoga-tattva-upanishad seems to mention several side-effects of mastering(?) levitation (bhuumi-tyaaga, Yogic Flying?): svalpa.n vaa bahudhaa duHkha.n yogii na vyathate tadaa .. 56.. alpamuutrapuriishhashcha svalpanidrashcha jaayate . kiilavo dR^ishhikaa laalaa svedadurgandhataanane .. 57.. etaani sarvathaa tasya na jaayante tataH param.h . tato.adhikataraabhyaasaadbalamutpadyate bahu .. 58.. yena bhuuchara siddhiH syaadbhuucharaaNaa.n jaye kshamaH . vyaaghro vaa sharabho vyaapi gajo gavaya eva vaa .. 59.. si.nho vaa yoginaa tena mriyante hastataaDitaaH . kandarpasya yathaa ruupa.n tathaa syaadapi yoginaH .. 60.. tadruupavashagaa naaryaH kaa~Nkshante tasya sa~Ngamam.h . yadi sa~Nga.n karotyeshha tasya bindukshayo bhavet.h .. 61.. varjayitvaa striyaaH sa~Nga.n kuryaadabhyaasamaadaraat.h . yogino.a~Nge sugandhashcha jaayate bindudhaaraNaat.h .. 62.. I'll try to come up with a very free translation that gives just a general idea of the text above: Neither small (svalpa) or big (bahudhaa: much) bad things (duHkham) disturb (vyathate) that yogii then (tadaa). He starts (jaayate: [this condition, or stuff] is born) to have scarce (alpa) pee (muutra) and shit (puurii) and needs very little (svalpa) sleep (nidraa). kiilava(??) visible (dRSikaa?) saliva (laalaa) and bad smelling sweat and breath disappear after that. (not translation, but description of the contents:) After that are mentioned several animals that the yogii can kill (mriyate) by bare hands (tiger, lion, elephant, etc.) The yogii becomes like a great lover (kandarpa) and women (naaryaaH) want (kaankSante) to have sex with him (samgamam: together-going). If he does fuck them, the result is bindukSaya(well,duh). ?If he can avoid fvcking the ladies?, the result is his limbs begin to smell good (sugandha) because of preserving the semen (bindudhaaraNaat; that seems the only reasonable meaning for that word in this context, doesn't it?). I always imagined that if one could actually 'float' , Lighter than air... Than one would have to have transformed to physical body, Into a higher vibratonal body, of light... And therefore, I would expect all kinds of impurities, flying out, As well as the stirring up of the enviornment around the Sidha Floater'. As a matter of fact, I think MMY, picked and used the levitation sutra for the effect that it has on the surroundings, increasing the ME... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Arnold the Pig from Green Acres
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This quote from Yoga-tattva-upanishad seems to mention several side-effects of mastering(?) levitation (bhuumi-tyaaga, Yogic Flying?): svalpa.n vaa bahudhaa duHkha.n yogii na vyathate tadaa .. 56.. alpamuutrapuriishhashcha svalpanidrashcha jaayate . kiilavo dR^ishhikaa laalaa svedadurgandhataanane .. 57.. etaani sarvathaa tasya na jaayante tataH param.h . tato.adhikataraabhyaasaadbalamutpadyate bahu .. 58.. yena bhuuchara siddhiH syaadbhuucharaaNaa.n jaye kshamaH . vyaaghro vaa sharabho vyaapi gajo gavaya eva vaa .. 59.. si.nho vaa yoginaa tena mriyante hastataaDitaaH . kandarpasya yathaa ruupa.n tathaa syaadapi yoginaH .. 60.. tadruupavashagaa naaryaH kaa~Nkshante tasya sa~Ngamam.h . yadi sa~Nga.n karotyeshha tasya bindukshayo bhavet.h .. 61.. varjayitvaa striyaaH sa~Nga.n kuryaadabhyaasamaadaraat.h . yogino.a~Nge sugandhashcha jaayate bindudhaaraNaat.h .. 62.. I'll try to come up with a very free translation that gives just a general idea of the text above: Neither small (svalpa) or big (bahudhaa: much) bad things (duHkham) disturb (vyathate) that yogii then (tadaa). He starts (jaayate: [this condition, or stuff] is born) to have scarce (alpa) pee (muutra) and shit (puurii) and needs very little (svalpa) sleep (nidraa). kiilava(??) visible (dRSikaa?) saliva (laalaa) and bad smelling sweat and breath disappear after that. (not translation, but description of the contents:) After that are mentioned several animals that the yogii can kill (mriyate) by bare hands (tiger, lion, elephant, etc.) I think it would be a waste to kill the animals if Nabby has already initiated them. Mind you, some of the best-tasting baby back ribs are those from long- time meditating pigs. The yogii becomes like a great lover (kandarpa) and women (naaryaaH) want (kaankSante) to have sex with him (samgamam: together-going). If he does fuck them, the result is bindukSaya(well,duh). ?If he can avoid fvcking the ladies?, the result is his limbs begin to smell good (sugandha) because of preserving the semen (bindudhaaraNaat; that seems the only reasonable meaning for that word in this context, doesn't it?).
[FairfieldLife] FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was talking to a friend who is very well connected in the TMO and the subject of why the Maharishi Effect doesn't seem to be all that effective (if at all) came up. Turns out I was wrong about everything but I'd never heard the particular set of excuses, erm sorry reasons before. One thing of interest was the floods this year near Vedic city. Contrary to Bobs idea that they were purging the world of sinners and those unfit to join in the wonderful AofE, it turns out they were caused be nature destroying the crops of non-organic farmers! The fools, they'll pay for their crimes against nature. That was according to Bevan anyway. There are days when logging on to read FFL feels like reading the deleted chapters from One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest. I mean, you've got Nabby claiming that he teaches animals to meditate (probably while hovering over them while flying), you've got Bevan claiming not only that the ME does some- thing -- anything -- but that its real effect is to destroy non-organic crops, you've got Bob saying that the destruction of the Georgian population is no big deal. You've got Nabby saying The Movement is always right and those who claim that their purpose is to expose lies on this forum saying absolutely *nothing* in response to that claim. You've got people trying to demonize Rick because someone *else* hasn't published the book they're not going to believe a word of anyway. You've even got dueling post count programs, fighting it out for supremacy and shouting, You're a LIAR -- MY count is correct and yours is WRONG at each other. This place is a ZOO. All that anyone would ever have to do to counter the claims that TM produces an increased ability to think rationally is to suggest that people read FFL and point out to the readers which of the posters are regular TM practitioners. ( The two dueling computer programs mentioned above can be classified as non-TMers unless Nabby has developed a love factor with them and taught them to meditate. )
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: This conflict looks like it has the makings to develop into a major international issue. I would have liked to see where one of the great prognosticatores predicted this. Wouldn't you like to have seen a prediction along these lines rather than the bold pronouncements that Israel may invade Israel, or the mideast may explode in the such and such a year? * This is no big deal. Georgia has a small population and and equally tiny armed forces. Russia will crush them, end of story. The only reason why Israel is an issue for the middle east is because international backing makes it an issue, but who knows any Georgians? Other than our esteamed prez, of course... My late aunts husband was from the US of A, George Mathias F. For some peculiar reason, the name George is in Finland often translated to 'Yrjö' [üryoe; 'oe' approx. like the vowel in 'bird']. So, here George F. was Yrjö F. Oddly enough, 'yrjö' is also used as an euphemism for puke, and as a verbal stem, meaning 'to puke'. There's prolly some degree of onomatopoeia involved.. I think the roots of that use of this word go back to 1970's, or so.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Old Soul Age'
Hey, thanks for the two way --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: You know damn well Gimbel doesn't read any of this. He just shits it out as though he is depositing nuggets of wisdom. You ask him the content of any of the stuff he dumps here, and he wouldn't have the foggiest. Not true; I read this; I kind of 'speed read'... I can completely relate this to many of the ways I feel about things. I've been told I'm an old soul. I posted it, because I thought some other's could relate to this. Obviously you didn't. Sorry, I'm boring you? R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip There are days when logging on to read FFL feels like reading the deleted chapters from One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest. I mean, you've got Nabby claiming that he teaches animals to meditate (probably while hovering over them while flying), you've got Bevan claiming not only that the ME does some- thing -- anything -- but that its real effect is to destroy non-organic crops, you've got Bob saying that the destruction of the Georgian population is no big deal. Uh, no, Bob didn't say that. By no big deal, he meant that it won't become a major international issue, although it would, of course, be a disaster for the victims of the war. You've got Nabby saying The Movement is always right and those who claim that their purpose is to expose lies on this forum saying absolutely *nothing* in response to that claim. I'm supposed to respond to my own claim?? How does that work, exactly? You've got people trying to demonize Rick because someone *else* hasn't published the book they're not going to believe a word of anyway. Uh, no, nobody demonized Rick. The person being demonized is the one who told Rick she was going to write the book. You've even got dueling post count programs, fighting it out for supremacy and shouting, You're a LIAR -- MY count is correct and yours is WRONG at each other. Actually, the person running one of the programs has said the other program is to be taken as correct until he fixes his so they both have the same counts. This place is a ZOO. Of the seven claims Barry just made proving that this place is a ZOO, he hallucinated four of them... All that anyone would ever have to do to counter the claims that TM produces an increased ability to think rationally is to suggest that people read FFL and point out to the readers which of the posters are regular TM practitioners. ...and of the three he got right, one was not made by a member of FFL, and the other two were made by the *same* TM practitioner. Leaving Barry with only *one* FFL TM practitioner on whom to base his claim that TM doesn't produce an increased ability to think rationally--which, it would appear, is balanced out by Barry's own propensity to hallucinate and blame his hallucinations on others. Oh, yes, and: My plan is to lay low, and say nothing either to [Judy] or about her. I may or may not succeed at this... --Barry Wright, 7/23/08
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My plan is to lay low, and say nothing either to [Judy] or about her. I may or may not succeed at this... --Barry Wright, 7/23/08 My new plan is to ignore the silly bitch as much as possible, while reserving the right to make fun of her any time I want, and encourage others to do the same. It is a sacred duty to laugh at insanity, and I've been letting down the team lately. -- Barry Wright, 8/11/2008 ( The silly bitch has my permission to use this new quote any time she wants. )
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: My plan is to lay low, and say nothing either to [Judy] or about her. I may or may not succeed at this... --Barry Wright, 7/23/08 My new plan is to ignore the silly bitch as much as possible, while reserving the right to make fun of her any time I want, and encourage others to do the same. It is a sacred duty to laugh at insanity, and I've been letting down the team lately. -- Barry Wright, 8/11/2008 ( The silly bitch has my permission to use this new quote any time she wants. ) Can I use it the next time you vow you're going to say nothing to me or about me? Or does the above amount to swearing that you aren't ever going to make that vow again? If so, good move, but one you should have made a long time ago, since making and breaking it over and over again really made you look quite silly. So...now that you've admitted the truth--that you don't have the self-discipline to refrain from talking to or about me--might this be a sign that you're ready to begin to acknowledge all your other lies (starting with those you tell about yourself)? That would be such a hopeful development. Maybe the Maharishi Effect really *is* working!
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
Truth watch: I just read the exchange between the two post counters and found it a model of civility and good sense. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've even got dueling post count programs, fighting it out for supremacy and shouting, You're a LIAR -- MY count is correct and yours is WRONG at each other. This place is a ZOO.
[FairfieldLife] The Tragedy Of Knowledge: Equating Wealth With Evolution - redux
I posted this last week, and noticed that none of the self-appointed arbiters of what is truth and what is lies on FFL replied to it. Following the guideline asserted so often by one of these arbiters that says that non-response to one of her posts indicates agreement with it, I'm assuming that's the case with this post, and thus wanted to thank her for her support and approval. Onwards and upwards. I shall endeavor to make more posts about TM, Maharishi and the TMO in the future that even the TBs agree with. ** John's recent post attempting to equate the story of this Brazilian millionaire with meditation being a good thing that creates 'cosmic efficiency' failed to inspire me. What it *did* inspire in me was a series of ruminations about What Went Wrong With The TM Movement. What *happened* to turn it from a meditation movement with promise into the world- wide laughingstock and parody of spirituality it is today? I think that a large part of the answer lies in Maharishi's fascination with and worship of money, and creating an environment in which his students were taught to worship money as well. Look at the baseline myth underlying TM -- it's supposedly a set of teachings descended from a guy so holy that he lived a life of poverty in the forests of India and had to be dragged kicking and screaming *out* of the forests and into the position of Shankaracharya. Now look at Maharishi and what he did with those teachings. He created an environment in which: * Those with the most money have the most power and influence. * Those with the most money got the most attention from him and got special privileges, including get- ting to dress up in silly costumes and pretend to be the 'Rajas' of an imagainary country. * Those with a little less money can be on Purusha or Mother Divine and have their own personal ser- vants to wait on them hand and foot, while being regarded as significantly better than the rank and file (those who...ugh...work for a living). * The achievements of the TM movement tend to be measured in terms of how many gaudy, ostentatious palaces and phalluses it can build. * The teachings *themselves* became progressively more expensive and out of the reach of ordinary people who make an ordinary living. The pinnacle of this was probably the enlightenment course, which promised enlightenment for a million dollars and didn't deliver. * Who gets held up as role models for what it is to be a good student of enlightenment in the TMO? The people who are richest and who give the most money to Maharishi, that's who. (Or those who are the most famous and whom he could use for publicity purposes to raise more money.) * Who gets the prime seats at any function and got to actually sit in the same room with Maharishi towards the end? Only the rich. I'm sorry, but there is a CLEAR teaching going on here, and it's such a *pervasive* teaching that people like John don't even realize that they've bought into it and accepted it as if it were true and valuable. That teaching is: Being wealthy equates to being spiritually evolved. Giving lots of that wealth to Maharishi equates to being even more spiritually evolved. And an extraordinary number of people seem to have bought this teaching hook, line, and sinker. They don't even *question* it. FORGET Maharishi's early talk on the tragedy of knowledge in which the essence of the pathway to enlightenment is lost over generations when no more enlightened teachers are left in the tradition to embody it. That's not the real tragedy. The real tragedy of knowledge is a teacher so stupid as to have missed the whole *point* of his own teacher's lifestyle and values and example, so stupid as to have come to believe that the only thing that matters in the quest for enlightenment is money -- the more money the better. THAT is a real tragedy. For the teacher himself, and for all of his students.
[FairfieldLife] Nationalism and hating the French - Plus more cynicism
Nationalism and hating the French: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQEcMTSgg5w On 'not giving a f**k': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wS5xOZ7Rq8 Ninety percent of everything is crap. ~~ Theodore Sturgeon, prolific American science fiction author (1918-1985)
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Truth watch: I just read the exchange between the two post counters and found it a model of civility and good sense. Barry has *got* to be joking if he thinks there's some kind of duel going on between post count programs. I'm trying to take over the post count duty from Bhairitu, using his PHP script, and we're just working out the kinks. We tried to sync my script with his, using his data file, and my hunch is that his *nix-generated hdrs08092008.txt file didn't work right on my Windows machine (the formatting is a little different). It seems like there are some slight differences between PHP running on *nix vs. PHP running on Windows, and I betcha that the script running on my machine will work just fine, starting on Friday, with the beginning of a new week cycle. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You've even got dueling post count programs, fighting it out for supremacy and shouting, You're a LIAR -- MY count is correct and yours is WRONG at each other. This place is a ZOO.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Tragedy Of Knowledge: Equating Wealth With Evolution - redux
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted this last week, and noticed that none of the self-appointed arbiters of what is truth and what is lies on FFL replied to it. Following the guideline asserted so often by one of these arbiters that says that non-response to one of her posts indicates agreement with it, Um, actually that is *not* an assertion I often make (Barry's lying again); and I don't believe, on those few occasions when I have made it, that I've made it in some absolute sense, as opposed to referring to a specific occasion. I'm assuming that's the case with this post, and thus wanted to thank her for her support and approval. But if *Barry* wants to adopt the assertion as an absolute, I can dig up hundreds, if not thousands, of things I've said in posts that, on this basis, we must conclude Barry agrees with, since he never responded to them. In other words, Barry's claim is what's known as a double-edged sword. (Do they sell Band-Aids in Sitges? He might want to stock up.) Whaddya think, Barry, shall I do that? They'd include, for example, almost all the times I've pointed out that you were lying. I'm very encouraged by this development; it now appears, as I hopefully suggested in a previous post this morning, that Barry really has made a breakthrough concerning his chronic dishonesty, hypocrisy, and general phoniness. We may be on the verge of seeing the *real* Barry Wright. As I said, it looks as though the Maharishi Effect is indeed working. Jai Guru Dev! (Of course, this conclusion all depends on whether Barry responds to this post by denying that he has decided to 'fess up about his dishonesty, etc., and plans to continue to be a liar, hypocrite, and phony. If he does, all bets are off.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Truth watch: I just read the exchange between the two post counters and found it a model of civility and good sense. Barry has *got* to be joking if he thinks there's some kind of duel going on between post count programs. I'm trying to take over the post count duty from Bhairitu, using his PHP script, and we're just working out the kinks. Uh...that part of my post was a JOKE, guys. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You've even got dueling post count programs, fighting it out for supremacy and shouting, You're a LIAR -- MY count is correct and yours is WRONG at each other. This place is a ZOO.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Tragedy Of Knowledge: Equating Wealth With Evolution - redux
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What it *did* inspire in me was a series of ruminations about What Went Wrong With The TM Movement. There's nothing wrong with some rumination, but real ruminants actually finish ruminating on the same batch of material, dump a load of manure, and move on to greener pasture. Jeez, Barry, you've been ruminating on the same TM material for what, 12 years now? Is there no end to it? Or are you just going to keep doing the same shit, different day routine ad infinitum?
RE: [FairfieldLife] FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:58 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons You've got people trying to demonize Rick because someone *else* hasn't published the book they're not going to believe a word of anyway. On this note, I received a response that there will be a book out in about a year. I'm not at liberty to say who's writing it or what it will contain. Stay tuned.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This place is a ZOO. Of the seven claims Barry just made proving that this place is a ZOO, he hallucinated four of them... If this is a zoo then that Turq fits in real fine. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Tragedy Of Knowledge: Equating Wealth With Evolution - redux
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: What it *did* inspire in me was a series of ruminations about What Went Wrong With The TM Movement. There's nothing wrong with some rumination, but real ruminants actually finish ruminating on the same batch of material, dump a load of manure, and move on to greener pasture. Jeez, Barry, you've been ruminating on the same TM material for what, 12 years now? Is there no end to it? Or are you just going to keep doing the same shit, different day routine ad infinitum? Actually, this was different shit. I hadn't posted before about Maharishi's obsession with money being the *specific* root cause of pretty much everything that's wrong with the TM organization. I think it is. I was just surprised that no one -- even the TBs -- seemed to disagree with the premise. I mean, even Her You're-A-Liarness is avoiding dealing with the subject. What's UP with that? I'm beginning to think she's afraid that she'll have to agree with me. Just to present some balance, it's the thing that fucked up the Rama trip, too. And so many other spir- itual movements. I'm beginning to believe that there was a good reason that some religions made it impossible for their priests or rabbis to even *touch* money, or be associated with it in any way. The minute they do, things seem to start going to hell in a handbasket. Let's phrase it a different way. Is there ANYONE here who believes that how much money you have is a valid indicator of your spiritual evolution? Anyone? If not, why did you put up with a movement that was structured around that idea for so many years?
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: This place is a ZOO. Of the seven claims Barry just made proving that this place is a ZOO, he hallucinated four of them... If this is a zoo then that Turq fits in real fine. :-) Absolutely. You know that old rule of thumb about why you shouldn't get too near to the monkey cages, right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:58 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons You've got people trying to demonize Rick because someone *else* hasn't published the book they're not going to believe a word of anyway. On this note, I received a response that there will be a book out in about a year. I'm not at liberty to say who's writing it or what it will contain. Stay tuned. Wrong. There will be many books. This world is full of toads that will like to make a few bucks on the life of Saints.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip There are days when logging on to read FFL feels like reading the deleted chapters from One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest. I mean, you've got Nabby claiming that he teaches animals to meditate (probably while hovering over them while flying), you've got Bevan claiming not only that the ME does some- thing -- anything -- but that its real effect is to destroy non-organic crops, you've got Bob saying that the destruction of the Georgian population is no big deal. Uh, no, Bob didn't say that. By no big deal, he meant that it won't become a major international issue, although it would, of course, be a disaster for the victims of the war. You've got Nabby saying The Movement is always right and those who claim that their purpose is to expose lies on this forum saying absolutely *nothing* in response to that claim. I'm supposed to respond to my own claim?? How does that work, exactly? You've got people trying to demonize Rick because someone *else* hasn't published the book they're not going to believe a word of anyway. Uh, no, nobody demonized Rick. The person being demonized is the one who told Rick she was going to write the book. You've even got dueling post count programs, fighting it out for supremacy and shouting, You're a LIAR -- MY count is correct and yours is WRONG at each other. Actually, the person running one of the programs has said the other program is to be taken as correct until he fixes his so they both have the same counts. This place is a ZOO. Of the seven claims Barry just made proving that this place is a ZOO, he hallucinated four of them... ...not to mention the fact that Barry is the only one who claims to have actually witnessed levitation floating...something he claims to have seen on numerous occasions. He himself is a delusional cult-member. All that anyone would ever have to do to counter the claims that TM produces an increased ability to think rationally is to suggest that people read FFL and point out to the readers which of the posters are regular TM practitioners. ...and of the three he got right, one was not made by a member of FFL, and the other two were made by the *same* TM practitioner. Leaving Barry with only *one* FFL TM practitioner on whom to base his claim that TM doesn't produce an increased ability to think rationally--which, it would appear, is balanced out by Barry's own propensity to hallucinate and blame his hallucinations on others. Oh, yes, and: My plan is to lay low, and say nothing either to [Judy] or about her. I may or may not succeed at this... --Barry Wright, 7/23/08 And I wish that I would have earmarked the post in which he said that he never reads MY posts, which he obviously does with earnest regularity because the reference above to asking Rick about the book was an obvious reference to my post on the subject. Please keep reproducing the above Barry Wright quote, Judy, each time you have to respond to him. It's precious.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:58 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons You've got people trying to demonize Rick because someone *else* hasn't published the book they're not going to believe a word of anyway. On this note, I received a response that there will be a book out in about a year. I'm not at liberty to say who's writing it or what it will contain. Stay tuned. Will there be pictures? You know, of the in flagrante delicto variety...
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Truth watch: I just read the exchange between the two post counters and found it a model of civility and good sense. Barry has *got* to be joking if he thinks there's some kind of duel going on between post count programs. I'm trying to take over the post count duty from Bhairitu, using his PHP script, and we're just working out the kinks. Uh...that part of my post was a JOKE, guys. Did you use a smiley face emoticon in order to convey this important piece of information? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You've even got dueling post count programs, fighting it out for supremacy and shouting, You're a LIAR -- MY count is correct and yours is WRONG at each other. This place is a ZOO.
[FairfieldLife] Once Again
From the Yahoo Blog today: We are currently experiencing Groups mail processing delays. We are working to isolate the cause of this issue and will post updates as we make progress. As always, we sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause your Groups. Thank you, Jami Groups Community Manager -- Yahoo needs some experienced programmers, I think, instead of kids. You can check for Yahoo problems by clicking on Blog in the upper right hand corner on the Fairfield Life web page.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Tragedy Of Knowledge: Equating Wealth With Evolution - redux
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: What it *did* inspire in me was a series of ruminations about What Went Wrong With The TM Movement. There's nothing wrong with some rumination, but real ruminants actually finish ruminating on the same batch of material, dump a load of manure, and move on to greener pasture. Jeez, Barry, you've been ruminating on the same TM material for what, 12 years now? Is there no end to it? Or are you just going to keep doing the same shit, different day routine ad infinitum? Actually, this was different shit. I hadn't posted before about Maharishi's obsession with money being the *specific* root cause of pretty much everything that's wrong with the TM organization. I think it is. I was just surprised that no one -- even the TBs -- seemed to disagree with the premise. Yawn. Gee, Barry, maybe because there are probably 5,000 posts in the archive of this forum that already dealt with the subject and it really isn't worth anyone's time to respond to the same observation from a Johnny-come-lately? I mean, even Her You're-A-Liarness is avoiding dealing with the subject. What's UP with that? I'm beginning to think she's afraid that she'll have to agree with me. Just to present some balance, it's the thing that fucked up the Rama trip, too. Hey, since you're so into honesty, Mr. Cool, why not call the Rama trip what it was: your involvement in a cult. If TM is/was a cult, then your involvement of many years with this Rama character was triple or quadruple cult. Indeed, it was such a powerful cult influence on you that TO THIS DAY you actually believe that you witnessed levitation by the guy. Do you not understand, Barry, that you did NOT -- I repeat did NOT -- see actual levitation despite your continual insistance that you had? You are the #1 victim on this forum of a cult and yet you'd like us to believe that you're above this sort of thing when, in reality, you still haven't overcome the Rama cult's influence on you DESPITE YOUR BEING AWAY FROM IT FOR DECADES! You need to contact a deprogrammer. If you like I can contact one on the internet on your behalf. Tell me, Barry, what do you think the deprogrammer would say when I inform him that I have a correspondent who actually believes in levitation and claims to have witnessed his cult guru having done it on dozens of occasions? I suspect that he will email me back telling me that he will take you on as a client sight unseen because you are obviously still suffering from the throes of cult brainwashing if you still believe such nonsense decades after being in contact with the cult guru. And, of course, if I inform him that the cult guru committed suicide well that will get you put onto the priority list for treatment. All of the things you smugly sneer at from your on-highness perch, as you do on a daily basis on this forum, Barry, are actually things that you are the most guilty of yourself. You, more than anyone, is an example of the effects of being in a cult. Although Nabby claims to have seen levitation, his observations at least are of the hopping 10 feet variety, not the hovering delusion that you insist you saw. Nabby can be dismissed as a bliss ninny schmuck, the type we've all seen one too many times. But you, hey, you need to be deprogrammed, and fast. Shall I contact a deprogrammer for you? I can certainly do that and, with your permission, share the email correspondence with this forum... And so many other spir- itual movements. I'm beginning to believe that there was a good reason that some religions made it impossible for their priests or rabbis to even *touch* money, or be associated with it in any way. The minute they do, things seem to start going to hell in a handbasket. Let's phrase it a different way. Is there ANYONE here who believes that how much money you have is a valid indicator of your spiritual evolution? Anyone? If not, why did you put up with a movement that was structured around that idea for so many years?
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
Wrong. There will be many books. This world is full of toads that will like to make a few bucks on the life of Saints. It sounded a bit harsh Nabby but it really does perfectly describe the whole life of Maharishis Mahesh Yogi. You do believe Guru Dev was a saint right? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:58 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons You've got people trying to demonize Rick because someone *else* hasn't published the book they're not going to believe a word of anyway. On this note, I received a response that there will be a book out in about a year. I'm not at liberty to say who's writing it or what it will contain. Stay tuned. Wrong. There will be many books. This world is full of toads that will like to make a few bucks on the life of Saints.
Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
TurquoiseB wrote: There are days when logging on to read FFL feels like reading the deleted chapters from One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest. That's why I call the place the Funny Farm Lounge. . You've even got dueling post count programs, fighting it out for supremacy and shouting, You're a LIAR -- MY count is correct and yours is WRONG at each other. No, that's not what's happening at all. Alex is running into problems running my PHP script that I run on Linux on Windows. We're trying to work out the quirks that Windows has introduced. :)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
bob_brigante wrote: ** I did not mean to imply that it is not a disaster for the innocent victims of war in Georgia, only that it could not be a major international issue that you fear because nobody gives a shit what happens to Georgians and even if they did, nobody could face down Russian power in that locale, not any more than they could after years of war in Chechnya, which borders Georgia ( http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/Chechnya.asp ). If you want to contemplate once again the ugly face of war, here's some pathetic photos of this current stupid human trick: http://tinyurl.com/5pz4c6 from: http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/08/11/world/20080811GEORGIA_2.ht ml Some people in the US think that Russia attacked Georgia for its peaches.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Tragedy Of Knowledge: Equating Wealth With Evolution - redux
Barry, As we found last week, you have the tendency to make assumptions without any evidence. For all of your accusations, you need to point out what evidence do you have? You should show the names, time, location and amount of money. Also, you should indicate your sources. Further, you need to present the criteria of all your accusations, such as laws or principles that are being violated. If you cannot present any of these necessary evidence and criteria, your accusations are baseless and amount to irrelevant rants indicating rash judgements and biases. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted this last week, and noticed that none of the self-appointed arbiters of what is truth and what is lies on FFL replied to it. Following the guideline asserted so often by one of these arbiters that says that non-response to one of her posts indicates agreement with it, I'm assuming that's the case with this post, and thus wanted to thank her for her support and approval. Onwards and upwards. I shall endeavor to make more posts about TM, Maharishi and the TMO in the future that even the TBs agree with. ** John's recent post attempting to equate the story of this Brazilian millionaire with meditation being a good thing that creates 'cosmic efficiency' failed to inspire me. What it *did* inspire in me was a series of ruminations about What Went Wrong With The TM Movement. What *happened* to turn it from a meditation movement with promise into the world- wide laughingstock and parody of spirituality it is today? I think that a large part of the answer lies in Maharishi's fascination with and worship of money, and creating an environment in which his students were taught to worship money as well. Look at the baseline myth underlying TM -- it's supposedly a set of teachings descended from a guy so holy that he lived a life of poverty in the forests of India and had to be dragged kicking and screaming *out* of the forests and into the position of Shankaracharya. Now look at Maharishi and what he did with those teachings. He created an environment in which: * Those with the most money have the most power and influence. * Those with the most money got the most attention from him and got special privileges, including get- ting to dress up in silly costumes and pretend to be the 'Rajas' of an imagainary country. * Those with a little less money can be on Purusha or Mother Divine and have their own personal ser- vants to wait on them hand and foot, while being regarded as significantly better than the rank and file (those who...ugh...work for a living). * The achievements of the TM movement tend to be measured in terms of how many gaudy, ostentatious palaces and phalluses it can build. * The teachings *themselves* became progressively more expensive and out of the reach of ordinary people who make an ordinary living. The pinnacle of this was probably the enlightenment course, which promised enlightenment for a million dollars and didn't deliver. * Who gets held up as role models for what it is to be a good student of enlightenment in the TMO? The people who are richest and who give the most money to Maharishi, that's who. (Or those who are the most famous and whom he could use for publicity purposes to raise more money.) * Who gets the prime seats at any function and got to actually sit in the same room with Maharishi towards the end? Only the rich. I'm sorry, but there is a CLEAR teaching going on here, and it's such a *pervasive* teaching that people like John don't even realize that they've bought into it and accepted it as if it were true and valuable. That teaching is: Being wealthy equates to being spiritually evolved. Giving lots of that wealth to Maharishi equates to being even more spiritually evolved. And an extraordinary number of people seem to have bought this teaching hook, line, and sinker. They don't even *question* it. FORGET Maharishi's early talk on the tragedy of knowledge in which the essence of the pathway to enlightenment is lost over generations when no more enlightened teachers are left in the tradition to embody it. That's not the real tragedy. The real tragedy of knowledge is a teacher so stupid as to have missed the whole *point* of his own teacher's lifestyle and values and example, so stupid as to have come to believe that the only thing that matters in the quest for enlightenment is money -- the more money the better. THAT is a real tragedy. For the teacher himself, and for all of his students.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: There are days when logging on to read FFL feels like reading the deleted chapters from One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest. On my first day working at an academy I was excited to be going into the presence of so many enlightened beings. It was a bit of a shock when I got there, my first thought was that it was a cross between One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest and the Addams Family. And before anyone thinks I'm slagging off loads of my friends, I fitted right in! So, after all I've seen and heard in the TMO I agree with the new title of this thread: The TMO is as crazy as a box of frogs. I think the key part of getting over any madness is to realise you're insane. I like to think I've managed that but how am I supposed to know for sure? Maybe Nabby is the sanest guy here. Maybe sanity is overrated anyway. This place is a ZOO. Save me a place in the monkey house.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:58 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons You've got people trying to demonize Rick because someone *else* hasn't published the book they're not going to believe a word of anyway. On this note, I received a response that there will be a book out in about a year. I'm not at liberty to say who's writing it or what it will contain. Stay tuned. Most definitely will. Assure them it will have a big readership.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snipsy] And I wish that I would have earmarked the post in which he (Turq) said that he never reads MY posts, [/endsnipsy] Oh you too?! I got that treatment. Is it a copy 'n' paste he has? All the same it chills the soul, no? The ultimate ***Turq Sanction***. You get to feel how folks must have felt when they were threatened with excommunication by the Pope. It's like being exiled to some sort of twilight world sandwiched between bardos! (I may have got my esoteric metaphysics screwed on that. If so, please excuse me.) But did that still, small voice ever whisper to you - he wasn't reading your posts anyway? I suspect his upload bytes are much, much more significant to him than his download bytes...
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:31 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons On this note, I received a response that there will be a book out in about a year. I'm not at liberty to say who's writing it or what it will contain. Stay tuned. Will there be pictures? You know, of the in flagrante delicto variety... There will be pictures, but not that kind.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Tragedy Of Knowledge: Equating Wealth With Evolution - redux
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Let's phrase it a different way. Is there ANYONE here who believes that how much money you have is a valid indicator of your spiritual evolution? Anyone? If not, why did you put up with a movement that was structured around that idea for so many years? How long did you say you were with the movement, Barry?
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Of the seven claims Barry just made proving that this place is a ZOO, he hallucinated four of them... ...not to mention the fact that Barry is the only one who claims to have actually witnessed levitation floating... something he claims to have seen on numerous occasions. He himself is a delusional cult-member. Don't know about cult-member unless it's the Cult of Barry, and it's never really been clear whether he's delusional and really believes what he says, or is very well aware that he lies constantly. If it's the latter, he's still delusional in that he has convinced himself nobody will see through the lies--just like John Edwards, Bill Clinton, Elliott Spitzer, et al. Except that Barry doesn't have the excuse that he's constantly surrounded by grinning sycophants who tell him he's invulnerable (well, there's Geeze...). He's always lied, but he used to do a better job of it, at least.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I wish that I would have earmarked the post in which he said that he never reads MY posts... If one changes one's mind for some reason, that doesn't mean what one said to start with was a lie. -- Judy Stein, 19 July 2008 Old news, Shemp. At this point, the only person whose posts I hit 'Next' on the moment they appear is Willytex. Everyone else I give a break to and read the first three or four lines before I hit 'Next.' If it's amusing, or the person is making an absolute ass of themselves, I might read even more. If it makes you feel any better, you have made it to absolute ass status several times lately, so I've read each of those posts all the way through. Don't you feel more appreciated now?
[FairfieldLife] Edwards affair cost Hillary the nomination
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5553013page=1
[FairfieldLife] Russia invades Atlanta!
According to Google News: http://tinyurl.com/5qs9w2
[FairfieldLife] Re: Once Again
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the Yahoo Blog today: We are currently experiencing Groups mail processing delays. We are working to isolate the cause of this issue and will post updates as we make progress. As always, we sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause your Groups. Thank you, Jami Groups Community Manager -- Yahoo needs some experienced programmers, I think, instead of kids. You can check for Yahoo problems by clicking on Blog in the upper right hand corner on the Fairfield Life web page. I read FFL by RSS using Thunderbird. But posts regularly go missing. I thought maybe it was Thunderbird's reader that was flaky, yet other feeds seem fine. Must be Yahoo!!
RE: [FairfieldLife] Edwards affair cost Hillary the nomination
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 1:56 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Edwards affair cost Hillary the nomination http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5553013 http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5553013page=1 page=1 I doubt it. In my town, Obama was the 2nd choice for most of the people who caucused for Edwards, including me. Obama probably would have won by a wider margin if Edwards hadn't been in the race.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bob_brigante wrote: ** I did not mean to imply that it is not a disaster for the innocent victims of war in Georgia, only that it could not be a major international issue that you fear because nobody gives a shit what happens to Georgians and even if they did, nobody could face down Russian power in that locale, not any more than they could after years of war in Chechnya, which borders Georgia ( http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/Chechnya.asp ). If you want to contemplate once again the ugly face of war, here's some pathetic photos of this current stupid human trick: http://tinyurl.com/5pz4c6 from: http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/08/11/world/20080811GEORGIA_2.ht ml Some people in the US think that Russia attacked Georgia for its peaches. Worse, the warmongers have jumped on the band wagon: McCain calls for U.N. resolution against Russia. Speaking in Erie, PA today, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) called for the U.N. Security Council to move ahead with the resolution calling for a cease-fire and condemning Russia's aggression against Georgia. McCain also said that NATO should begin discussions on both the deployment of an international peacekeeping force to South Ossetia and the implications for NATO's future relationship with Russia, a Partnership for Peace nation. In the past, McCain has also threatened to kick Russia out of the G-8. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/11/mccain-calls-for-un-resolution-against-russia/ McCain Bonkers on Georgia For John McCain, the problem isn't coherence, it's bellicosity. McCain has been the strongest global voice behind Georgia since the shooting began. The problem is, when does the McCain tough rhetoric end and World War III begin? The McCain team will argue that the only way to deter Russia, Iran and other global aggressors from taking actions like this is to stand up to them forcefully, with credibility. The problem is the second half of that equation -- with U.S. troops in Iraq and even Georgia unsure how to get their 2,000 Iraqi troops back home in time to make a difference, how exactly would the U.S. help Georgia in this conflict, short of starting an all-out war with the second biggest nuclear power? At this moment, the U.S. has no credible way to threaten Russia. So unless McCain is willing to get the U.S. in the middle of every armed conflict on earth -- giving new definition to his promise of more wars -- a McCain Presidency would mean that we're at least going to enter a new age of foreign policy brinkmanship that will demand a military sufficient to fight these battles. That means either getting out of Iraq or reinstating a draft, because the military today is incapable of matching McCain's rhetoric. http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/08/10/crisis_in_georgia.html Wingnut on Russian attack of Republic of Georgia: What we'll think of is the country of Georgia and we'll realize that August 8 was the date when Russia began reassembling the former Soviet empire in earnest. ~Roger Kimball http://tinyurl.com/6dllgp Response from Daniel Larison at American Conservative Magazine: Yes, just as Iran is poised to revive the Achaemenid Empire! [LOL] It's not just that I find the charges of Russian imperialism a bit tired coming from people who have insisted for years that invading other countries, toppling their governments and setting up puppet states is not imperialism, but I find them very boring. I mean, how unimaginative can one be to say, They're bringing back the Soviet Union!? That's the sort of thing an eccentric Bond villain would try to do. There are no more workers' councils, and there is no more USSR. In every sense of the word, the Soviets are gone and their empire is dust. No onenot Putin, not Medvedev, not anyoneis bringing it back as it once existed. Now if Kimball had said that Moscow is trying to reassemble parts of the pre-revolutionary Russian Empire, at least in terms of its territorial dimensions, I would still say that he is grossly exaggerating what's going on, but at least he wouldn't be embarrassing himself by saying completely nonsensical things. http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/08/09/do-these-people-even-know-what-soviet-means/ You can see the extremely bellicose statements of Vice President Cheney and Sen. McCain (soul mates on this issue) on the conflict in Georgia. And a number of Democratic-affiliated foreign policy hands are roughly on the same side of this issue, if not quite as utterly nuts and eager to get into a war with Russia as Cheney and McCain. [...] As the standard line goes, my point is not to justify Russian actions. And I should be clear that I have not researched the details of this conflict nearly as deeply as I would now like to. But we should be clear that there are small state actors in the region (Georgia being one of them) interested
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hugo Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 11:40 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: There are days when logging on to read FFL feels like reading the deleted chapters from One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest. On my first day working at an academy I was excited to be going into the presence of so many enlightened beings. It was a bit of a shock when I got there, my first thought was that it was a cross between One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest and the Addams Family. I presume you mean a TM academy. I've been dealing with this issue too. I look back at various periods in my TM history and see myself as being really nuts. Then again, I wasn't too sane before learning TM, and I'm still glad I did it. But these days, seeing my nuttiness more clearly seems to be part of a process of rooting it out once and for all. Let's hope.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Tragedy Of Knowledge: Equating Wealth With Evolution - redux
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry, As we found last week... The only people entitled to refer to themselves as 'we' are kings, editors, and people with tapeworms. -- Mark Twain ...you have the tendency to make assumptions without any evidence. For all of your accusations, you need to point out what evidence do you have? You should show the names, time, location and amount of money. Also, you should indicate your sources. With all due lack of respect, I don't need to do shit. I merely stated things that would be obvious to anyone who had spent any time in the TM movement and paid attention. Sorry that you haven't. If you don't like my opinions, present one of your own. I have no need to defend mine.
[FairfieldLife] BEYOND WORDS: David Lynch in Brazil
---Originalmeldung--- Betreff: BEYOND WORDS: David Lynch in Brazil Bob Roth's report from Brazil to Dr. Bevan Morris. Dear Bevan, There really are no words to properly describe what happened yesterday afternoon in Belo Horizonte in Brazil, in a gymnasium filled with 3000 to 4000 children who have all been born with the divine birthright of enlightenment, but who have lived a life far far far from that reality-- an impoverished life, all-but abandoned by society. No money, no hope, no future. Enter Maharishii's Transcendental Meditation program. With the awe-inspiring organizing power of Raja Luis and the great Governors, Sidhas and Meditators of Brazil, thousands of these children have learned to meditate. Yesterday, they assembled in that old gym, crumbling and also forgotten--and they turned it into a Shrine of Pure Knowledge. They gathered to honor David Lynch and Donovan--and to express their gratitude for the gift of true freedom they received from Maharishi. Not much more to say other than to say, look at these pictures. These should be sad children. They are not. These are happy, gleeful, hopeful, bright, shiny kids, lit from within, having the time of their lives And David? What to say that has not been said. A true master teacher of Maharishi's supreme knowledge. And Donovan (along with a famous local singer named Claudia)... Well he did what he was born to do: Awaken a tsunami of bliss and happiness with his song and presence... The event began at 3:30 pm and ended at 5:30 pm. It was two- hours of bliss. ? David entered the building kind of overwhelmed by the thunderous applause (you have to see and HEAR the video footage when it is ready) basked for a moment in the glow of the moment, and then spoke a few words to the kids, describing TM as a priceless diamond that each child should cherish throughout his or her life... He said he had not missed a meditation in 35 years--and neither should any of the kids! ? David and the kids then meditated for ten minutes (a really REALLY great experience!) ? A few more words were spoken from the school directors and teachers ? Then the concert: Donovan wowed the kids with several songs (they went wild with energy and pure joy--the director had a smile as large as the country of Brazil!) followed by a few more songs with Claudia But the true story of the day is in the pictures... with many more fabulous photos and videos to come! Jai Guru Dev Bob __ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Utterly tasteless?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKS_xWlVxNo
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [snipsy] And I wish that I would have earmarked the post in which he (Turq) said that he never reads MY posts, [/endsnipsy] Oh you too?! I got that treatment. Is it a copy 'n' paste he has? All the same it chills the soul, no? The ultimate ***Turq Sanction***. You get to feel how folks must have felt when they were threatened with excommunication by the Pope. It's like being exiled to some sort of twilight world sandwiched between bardos! (I may have got my esoteric metaphysics screwed on that. If so, please excuse me.) But did that still, small voice ever whisper to you - he wasn't reading your posts anyway? I suspect his upload bytes are much, much more significant to him than his download bytes... In this regard Barry reminds me of a cartoon from Playboy back in the '70s: a woman has called the police who have arrived at her appartment. She had called to complain that a couple in the next building left their window open while they made love. But the cops peered out the window and couldn't see anything except an appartment building about 1/2 a mile away. And the woman is holding a pair of binoculars and says to the cops: Of course you can't see them...you have to use these! Barry loves to sneer down on us, the little people, and tell us that he will, henseforth, no longer lower himself by reading our posts. But then, of course, he obsessively reads every one of them.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
do.rflex wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bob_brigante wrote: ** I did not mean to imply that it is not a disaster for the innocent victims of war in Georgia, only that it could not be a major international issue that you fear because nobody gives a shit what happens to Georgians and even if they did, nobody could face down Russian power in that locale, not any more than they could after years of war in Chechnya, which borders Georgia ( http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/Chechnya.asp ). If you want to contemplate once again the ugly face of war, here's some pathetic photos of this current stupid human trick: http://tinyurl.com/5pz4c6 from: http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/08/11/world/20080811GEORGIA_2.ht ml Some people in the US think that Russia attacked Georgia for its peaches. Worse, the warmongers have jumped on the band wagon Oh no, good Americans are supposed to be watching the Olympics instead of the war in Georgia. I moved from Seattle long ago and can't see the Olympics from the Bay Area. But I did see Darth Cheney spewing his vile on the news last night. Do these fools think they're going to sucker us into a war with Russia because we're worried about our empty gas tanks?
[FairfieldLife] Warmonger Alert !
McCain calls for U.N. resolution against Russia. Speaking in Erie, PA today, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) called for the U.N. Security Council to move ahead with the resolution calling for a cease-fire and condemning Russia's aggression against Georgia. McCain also said that NATO should begin discussions on both the deployment of an international peacekeeping force to South Ossetia and the implications for NATO's future relationship with Russia, a Partnership for Peace nation. In the past, McCain has also threatened to kick Russia out of the G-8. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/11/mccain-calls-for-un-resolution-against-russia/ McCain Goes Bonkers on Georgia For John McCain, the problem isn't coherence, it's bellicosity. McCain has been the strongest global voice behind Georgia since the shooting began. The problem is, when does the McCain tough rhetoric end and World War III begin? The McCain team will argue that the only way to deter Russia, Iran and other global aggressors from taking actions like this is to stand up to them forcefully, with credibility. The problem is the second half of that equation -- with U.S. troops in Iraq and even Georgia unsure how to get their 2,000 Iraqi troops back home in time to make a difference, how exactly would the U.S. help Georgia in this conflict, short of starting an all-out war with the second biggest nuclear power? At this moment, the U.S. has no credible way to threaten Russia. So unless McCain is willing to get the U.S. in the middle of every armed conflict on earth -- giving new definition to his promise of more wars -- a McCain Presidency would mean that we're at least going to enter a new age of foreign policy brinkmanship that will demand a military sufficient to fight these battles. That means either getting out of Iraq or reinstating a draft, because the military today is incapable of matching McCain's rhetoric. http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/08/10/crisis_in_georgia.html -Wingnut on Russian attack of Republic of Georgia: What we'll think of is the country of Georgia and we'll realize that August 8 was the date when Russia began reassembling the former Soviet empire in earnest. ~~ Roger Kimball http://tinyurl.com/6dllgp -Response from Daniel Larison at American Conservative Magazine: Yes, just as Iran is poised to revive the Achaemenid Empire! [LOL] It's not just that I find the charges of Russian imperialism a bit tired coming from people who have insisted for years that invading other countries, toppling their governments and setting up puppet states is not imperialism, but I find them very boring. I mean, how unimaginative can one be to say, They're bringing back the Soviet Union!? That's the sort of thing an eccentric Bond villain would try to do. There are no more workers' councils, and there is no more USSR. In every sense of the word, the Soviets are gone and their empire is dust. No onenot Putin, not Medvedev, not anyoneis bringing it back as it once existed. Now if Kimball had said that Moscow is trying to reassemble parts of the pre-revolutionary Russian Empire, at least in terms of its territorial dimensions, I would still say that he is grossly exaggerating what's going on, but at least he wouldn't be embarrassing himself by saying completely nonsensical things. http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/08/09/do-these-people-even-know-what-soviet-means/ -Cheney and McCain You can see the extremely bellicose statements of Vice President Cheney and Sen. McCain (soul mates on this issue) on the conflict in Georgia. And a number of Democratic-affiliated foreign policy hands are roughly on the same side of this issue, if not quite as utterly nuts and eager to get into a war with Russia as Cheney and McCain. [...] As the standard line goes, my point is not to justify Russian actions. And I should be clear that I have not researched the details of this conflict nearly as deeply as I would now like to. But we should be clear that there are small state actors in the region (Georgia being one of them) interested in making high stakes gambles vis a vis the Russians and they are trying to do it on our dime -- that is, both literally on our dime but more importantly by trying to involve us militarily in their defense. Meanwhile, there are players (largely, though not perfectly, overlapping with the folks who got us into Iraq) in the US who want to use this period of relative (though diminishing) Russian weakness to push American security guarantees (primarily NATO) not just to the borders of the old Soviet Union (which we've largely already done) but actually within the borders of the old Soviet Union. John McCain has been a supporter of inducting Georgia into NATO. And it is worth noting that had we done that we would currently be in effect in a state of war with Russia since we would be obligated to see the treat the attack on Georgia as an attack on us. Indeed, McCain is saying now we should move ahead
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: And I wish that I would have earmarked the post in which he said that he never reads MY posts... If one changes one's mind for some reason, that doesn't mean what one said to start with was a lie. -- Judy Stein, 19 July 2008 Ooops, non sequitur. Shemp didn't say you had lied, nor did I, with regard to not reading our posts. We're both making fun of your tendency to posture, you see, to pretend to be above it all, when in fact it's just an excuse to avoid dealing with it when you get nailed and you can't come up with a what you think is a snappy comeback.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
Bhairitu wrote: Do these fools think they're going to sucker us into a war with Russia because we're worried about our empty gas tanks? Maybe the Europeans are worried about their empty gas tanks. Finally a war you can protest, Bhairitu! Cognitive dissonance is horrible, horrible, isn't it? I guess all the leftists are on their summer holiday along with Obama, and can't be bothered to answer this 3am phone call. http://tinyurl.com/6blq6x
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warmonger Alert !
John wrote: Warmonger Alert! So, what are are you going to do about it? President Bush once had the fortitude to deal with this sort of crisis, but seems to have lost it. As for Barack Obama, the less said the better. Read more: 'Russia Broadens Attack on Georgia' Posted by John Hinderaker Powerline, August 11, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/699kz8
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
Bob wrote: ...because nobody gives a shit what happens to Georgians and even if they did, nobody could face down Russian power in that locale, not any more than they could after years of war in Chechnya, which borders Georgia... Obama is vacationing in Hawaii... Read more: 'Georgia crisis tests presidential candidates' CNN, August 11, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/58jqsg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warmonger Alert !
Richard J. Williams wrote: John wrote: Warmonger Alert! So, what are are you going to do about it? President Bush once had the fortitude to deal with this sort of crisis, but seems to have lost it. As for Barack Obama, the less said the better. Read more: 'Russia Broadens Attack on Georgia' Posted by John Hinderaker Powerline, August 11, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/699kz8 Take a minute to examine the presidential campaign propaganda that Republicans send around the Internet, and you will see what I mean. For example, recently while Obama was traveling abroad, showing himself to the remnant of our allies, Republican political operatives blitzed the Internet with the suggestion that Obama might not be an American citizen. Doubt was cast on either of his parents being American citizens. The message went on to suggest that Obama refused to produce his birth certificate. All the while, Obama was traveling abroad on a US passport, a document that cannot be obtained without a US birth certificate. From: The Moronic Party By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS “Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.” -- John Stuart Mill Many years ago, during the 1970s if memory serves, neoconservative Irving Kristol, echoing John Stuart Mill, called his conservative party, the Republican Party, “the stupid party.” Article here: http://counterpunch.org/roberts08112008.html You need to get some smarts, Willy, Hinderaker is nothing more than warmongering NeoCon shill and indeed stupid. Roberts was in the Reagan administration and not at all a fan of your buddies in the White House. But if you want some smarts I'm sure that you'll get plenty volunteering along side Blackwater in Georgia. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Edwards affair cost Hillary the nomination
I do believe this could be the case. Of course if you believe that Obama is/was the candidate of destiny, then maybe he would have prevailed anyway. But if you're Hillary, you've got to be damning your luck. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5553013page=1
[FairfieldLife] Re: BEYOND WORDS: David Lynch in Brazil
and two weeks from now, or three days from now. what then. Is this to be the high point of their lives? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Originalmeldung--- Betreff: BEYOND WORDS: David Lynch in Brazil Bob Roth's report from Brazil to Dr. Bevan Morris. Dear Bevan, There really are no words to properly describe what happened yesterday afternoon in Belo Horizonte in Brazil, in a gymnasium filled with 3000 to 4000 children who have all been born with the divine birthright of enlightenment, but who have lived a life far far far from that reality-- an impoverished life, all-but abandoned by society. No money, no hope, no future. Enter Maharishii's Transcendental Meditation program. With the awe-inspiring organizing power of Raja Luis and the great Governors, Sidhas and Meditators of Brazil, thousands of these children have learned to meditate. Yesterday, they assembled in that old gym, crumbling and also forgotten--and they turned it into a Shrine of Pure Knowledge. They gathered to honor David Lynch and Donovan--and to express their gratitude for the gift of true freedom they received from Maharishi. Not much more to say other than to say, look at these pictures. These should be sad children. They are not. These are happy, gleeful, hopeful, bright, shiny kids, lit from within, having the time of their lives And David? What to say that has not been said. A true master teacher of Maharishi's supreme knowledge. And Donovan (along with a famous local singer named Claudia)... Well he did what he was born to do: Awaken a tsunami of bliss and happiness with his song and presence... The event began at 3:30 pm and ended at 5:30 pm. It was two- hours of bliss. ? David entered the building kind of overwhelmed by the thunderous applause (you have to see and HEAR the video footage when it is ready) basked for a moment in the glow of the moment, and then spoke a few words to the kids, describing TM as a priceless diamond that each child should cherish throughout his or her life... He said he had not missed a meditation in 35 years--and neither should any of the kids! ? David and the kids then meditated for ten minutes (a really REALLY great experience!) ? A few more words were spoken from the school directors and teachers ? Then the concert: Donovan wowed the kids with several songs (they went wild with energy and pure joy--the director had a smile as large as the country of Brazil!) followed by a few more songs with Claudia But the true story of the day is in the pictures... with many more fabulous photos and videos to come! Jai Guru Dev Bob __ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
Richard J. Williams wrote: Bhairitu wrote: Do these fools think they're going to sucker us into a war with Russia because we're worried about our empty gas tanks? Maybe the Europeans are worried about their empty gas tanks. Finally a war you can protest, Bhairitu! Cognitive dissonance is horrible, horrible, isn't it? I guess all the leftists are on their summer holiday along with Obama, and can't be bothered to answer this 3am phone call. http://tinyurl.com/6blq6x We will be watching how the NeoCon dogs bark the American sheeple into supporting WW IV. I was wondering who this dude was that was arguing with the Russian U.N. Ambassador on last night's news cast: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zalmay_Khalilzad And your guys put him there. The Russian ambassador was on the mark when he criticized the US, a country which has invaded Iraq and Afghanistan for criticizing the Russia-Georgia conflict. You should note that US military has been in Georgia along with Israeli military training Georgian troops. Blackwater is also there. The US wants the pipeline so they can sell Americans overpriced natural gas. Better run to the store and get some peaches while you can, Willy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Edwards affair cost Hillary the nomination
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do believe this could be the case. Of course if you believe that Obama is/was the candidate of destiny, then maybe he would have prevailed anyway. But if you're Hillary, you've got to be damning your luck. You've got to admit the wind has been at Senator Obama's back... It's must be a shame, that the millions of dollars Hillary spent on these 'Campaign Advisor'... And all the advisors were obsessed with Senator Obama, that they forgot to check into this story which has been rumored in newsrooms since October, 2007... Silly, Girl! Hillary, my dear, don't forget me, Hillary my dear... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard J. Williams wrote: Bhairitu wrote: Do these fools think they're going to sucker us into a war with Russia because we're worried about our empty gas tanks? Maybe the Europeans are worried about their empty gas tanks. Finally a war you can protest, Bhairitu! Cognitive dissonance is horrible, horrible, isn't it? I guess all the leftists are on their summer holiday along with Obama, and can't be bothered to answer this 3am phone call. http://tinyurl.com/6blq6x We will be watching how the NeoCon dogs bark the American sheeple into supporting WW IV. I was wondering who this dude was that was arguing with the Russian U.N. Ambassador on last night's news cast: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zalmay_Khalilzad And your guys put him there. The Russian ambassador was on the mark when he criticized the US, a country which has invaded Iraq and Afghanistan for criticizing the Russia-Georgia conflict. You should note that US military has been in Georgia along with Israeli military training Georgian troops. Blackwater is also there. The US wants the pipeline so they can sell Americans overpriced natural gas. Better run to the store and get some peaches while you can, Willy. Putin speaks out Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin criticized the United States for viewing Georgia as the victim, instead of the aggressor, and for airlifting Georgian troops back home from Iraq on Sunday. Of course, Saddam Hussein ought to have been hanged for destroying several Shiite villages, Putin said in Moscow. And the incumbent Georgian leaders who razed ten Ossetian villages at once, who ran elderly people and children with tanks, who burned civilian alive in their sheds - these leaders must be taken under protection. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080811/D92G94PG0.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob wrote: ...because nobody gives a shit what happens to Georgians and even if they did, nobody could face down Russian power in that locale, not any more than they could after years of war in Chechnya, which borders Georgia... Obama is vacationing in Hawaii... Give the guy a break; He's only been going 24/7 for many months. His staff is very tired. They all need a break. Meanwhile back at the Bush ranch... George is seen winking, back slapping, Young girls in China, And giving El Pres. of China; That great Bush hand-shake and a good smile to the cameras. These guys love shaking hands and smiling for the cameras. Silly pres. R.g.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
Finally a war you can protest... Bhairitu wrote: We will be watching how the NeoCon dogs bark the American sheeple into supporting WW IV. You're not even making any sense - Obama and most of the Dems agree that Russia should withdraw their troops. The US wants the pipeline so they can sell Americans overpriced natural gas. You are really not making any sense - the U.S. doesn't import any oil from Georgia. Europe imports 4% of its oil from the Georgia pipeline. The U.S. has it's own oil. All we have to do is get libs like you to start drilling for it. In their latest emanation Team Obama has figured out which side we are on and rivals the bellicosity of McCain and Rice in backing Georgia and calling on Russia to withdraw its troops. Read more: 'The 4 AM Moment' Posted by Tom Maguire http://tinyurl.com/6kfhln
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Aug 9 00:00:00 2008 End Date (UTC): Sat Aug 16 00:00:00 2008 261 messages as of (UTC) Tue Aug 12 00:06:30 2008 24 authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22 shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21 nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20 Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18 Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16 Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14 cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13 lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13 TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11 curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10 sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10 R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6 gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6 Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4 Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 satvadude108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 pranamoocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Michael James Flatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 FFL PostCount [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Posters: 36 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] To Anyone Who's Going to Sit Out This Election
Please...just five minutes of your time, then you can continue your day. Thanks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
So, John, do you have any evidence you'd like to share which proves that it was the Georgians who razed ten Ossetian villages at once, who ran elderly people and children with tanks, who burned civilian alive in their sheds? I think not - what I think is that you've gone soft and senile in your brain - you don't even know who your enemies are anymore. According to what I've read, it was the Russians themselves that started the war and it was they and the Ossetians that started shooting after they signed the truce - it was a setup - otherwise how come the Russian tanks and troops were already set up on the border ready to invade? If true, then you look like a big-time schmuck. You threw your friends, the Georgians, under the train and you stood up to salute the commie Putin when he marched in with his tanks. Way to go, John! Georgia is a democratic government elected by its people. Of course, Saddam Hussein ought to have been hanged for destroying several Shiite villages, Putin said in Moscow. And the incumbent Georgian leaders who razed ten Ossetian villages at once, who ran elderly people and children with tanks, who burned civilian alive in their sheds - these leaders must be taken under protection. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080811/D92G94PG0.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
Obama is vacationing in Hawaii... Robert wrote: Give the guy a break; So, why is it, Robert, that the young guy needs a vacation, and the old guy has been working for what, 20 years? And, why is it, Robert, that the young guy is taking a vacation in the middle of a war, and the old guy, still campaigning, wants the Russians to withdraw? But, the young guy wants the Georgians to give up? Meanwhile back at the Bush ranch... The Europeans have been basically neutralized, he said. In part, because they've become very dependent on Russian oil and gas, particularly gas. For example, in the case of Germany, [Russia] provides 42 percent of Germany's natural gas. So the Germans, who were probably expected to take the leading role here, have been neutralized. Read more: 'Experts Discuss Georgia-Russia Conflict' By Andre de Nesnera Voice of America, August 11, 2008
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEYOND WORDS: David Lynch in Brazil
Which one of these celebrities was spotted learning competing (and better) techniques for spiritual development in a VortexHealing class? Inquiring minds want to know. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Mon, 8/11/08, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEYOND WORDS: David Lynch in Brazil To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 6:54 PM and two weeks from now, or three days from now. what then. Is this to be the high point of their lives? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Originalmeldung--- Betreff: BEYOND WORDS: David Lynch in Brazil Bob Roth's report from Brazil to Dr. Bevan Morris. Dear Bevan, There really are no words to properly describe what happened yesterday afternoon in Belo Horizonte in Brazil, in a gymnasium filled with 3000 to 4000 children who have all been born with the divine birthright of enlightenment, but who have lived a life far far far from that reality-- an impoverished life, all-but abandoned by society. No money, no hope, no future. Enter Maharishii's Transcendental Meditation program. With the awe-inspiring organizing power of Raja Luis and the great Governors, Sidhas and Meditators of Brazil, thousands of these children have learned to meditate. Yesterday, they assembled in that old gym, crumbling and also forgotten--and they turned it into a Shrine of Pure Knowledge. They gathered to honor David Lynch and Donovan--and to express their gratitude for the gift of true freedom they received from Maharishi. Not much more to say other than to say, look at these pictures. These should be sad children. They are not. These are happy, gleeful, hopeful, bright, shiny kids, lit from within, having the time of their lives And David? What to say that has not been said. A true master teacher of Maharishi's supreme knowledge. And Donovan (along with a famous local singer named Claudia)... Well he did what he was born to do: Awaken a tsunami of bliss and happiness with his song and presence... The event began at 3:30 pm and ended at 5:30 pm. It was two- hours of bliss. ? David entered the building kind of overwhelmed by the thunderous applause (you have to see and HEAR the video footage when it is ready) basked for a moment in the glow of the moment, and then spoke a few words to the kids, describing TM as a priceless diamond that each child should cherish throughout his or her life... He said he had not missed a meditation in 35 years--and neither should any of the kids! ? David and the kids then meditated for ten minutes (a really REALLY great experience!) ? A few more words were spoken from the school directors and teachers ? Then the concert: Donovan wowed the kids with several songs (they went wild with energy and pure joy--the director had a smile as large as the country of Brazil!) followed by a few more songs with Claudia But the true story of the day is in the pictures... with many more fabulous photos and videos to come! Jai Guru Dev Bob __ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
Richard J. Williams wrote: Finally a war you can protest... Bhairitu wrote: We will be watching how the NeoCon dogs bark the American sheeple into supporting WW IV. You're not even making any sense - Obama and most of the Dems agree that Russia should withdraw their troops. And what has that to do with the NeoCon dogs barking the people into America sheeple into WW IV? Are you saying that Obama is a NeoCon, Peaches? The US wants the pipeline so they can sell Americans overpriced natural gas. You are really not making any sense - the U.S. doesn't import any oil from Georgia. Natural gas, Peaches, natural gas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Caucasus_Pipeline Europe imports 4% of its oil from the Georgia pipeline. The U.S. has it's own oil. All we have to do is get libs like you to start drilling for it. Ya didn't read Paul Craig Robert's article, did ya Peaches? In their latest emanation Team Obama has figured out which side we are on and rivals the bellicosity of McCain and Rice in backing Georgia and calling on Russia to withdraw its troops. Read more: 'The 4 AM Moment' Posted by Tom Maguire http://tinyurl.com/6kfhln When are you gong to stop reading news for shudras? You'll never rise above your caste that way, Peaches.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
John wrote: Worse, the warmongers have jumped on the band wagon: So, you're thinking that Obama has jumped on the bandwagon? But, has any U.S. leader said anything about going to war in Ossetia? Has anyone in Congress said anything about sending troops to fight the Russians? Obama repeated his call for Russia to withdraw and said its efforts to join the World Trade Organization should be reviewed. 'We should ... convene other international forums to condemn this aggression, to call for an immediate halt to the violence, and to review multilateral and bilateral arrangements with Russia -- including Russia's interest in joining the World Trade Organization,' he told reporters. Full story: 'McCain, Obama say Russia faces fallout over Georgia' Reuters, August 11, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/6xvtt7
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Aug 9 00:00:00 2008 End Date (UTC): Sat Aug 16 00:00:00 2008 261 messages as of (UTC) Tue Aug 12 00:06:30 2008 24 authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22 shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21 nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20 Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18 Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16 Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14 cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13 lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13 TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11 curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10 sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10 R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6 gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6 Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4 Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 satvadude108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 pranamoocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Michael James Flatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 FFL PostCount [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Posters: 36 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com And, my version of the post count: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Aug 09 00:00:002008 End Date (UTC): Sat Aug 16 00:00:002008 261 messages as of (UTC) TueAug 12 00:18:40 2008 24 authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22 shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21 nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19 Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18 Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16 Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14 cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13 lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13 TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11 curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10 sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10 R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6 gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6 Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6 do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 satvadude108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 pranamoocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Michael James Flatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Posters: 35 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
You're not even making any sense - Obama and most of the Dems agree that Russia should withdraw their troops. Bhairitu wrote: And what has that to do with the NeoCon dogs barking the people into America sheeple into WW IV? You sound really scared - better check under your bed for Russians. Are you saying that Obama is a NeoCon, Peaches? According to what I've read, Obama is in favor of bombing Pakistan. He said the Russians should withdraw from Georgia or suffer the consequences. In their latest emanation Team Obama has figured out which side we are on and rivals the bellicosity of McCain and Rice in backing Georgia and calling on Russia to withdraw its troops. Read more: 'The 4 AM Moment' Posted by Tom Maguire http://tinyurl.com/6kfhln
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
Except for the fact you're missing one of Rick's posts it seems to be okay. There's one more do.flex because his message was posted a minute after my post count and before yours. Need to add a space between the time and year in start and end date. And one for the message count between the day and month. Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Aug 9 00:00:00 2008 End Date (UTC): Sat Aug 16 00:00:00 2008 261 messages as of (UTC) Tue Aug 12 00:06:30 2008 24 authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22 shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21 nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20 Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18 Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16 Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14 cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13 lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13 TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11 curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10 sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10 R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6 gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6 Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4 Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 satvadude108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 pranamoocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Michael James Flatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 FFL PostCount [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Posters: 36 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com And, my version of the post count: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Aug 09 00:00:002008 End Date (UTC): Sat Aug 16 00:00:002008 261 messages as of (UTC) TueAug 12 00:18:40 2008 24 authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22 shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21 nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19 Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18 Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16 Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14 cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13 lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13 TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11 curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10 sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10 R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6 gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6 Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6 do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 satvadude108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 pranamoocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Michael James Flatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Posters: 35 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] US Quick to React
Oh yeah, the U.S. Navy is Johnnie on the spot and able to pick up at a moment's notice to get into the gulf. Yup, if you believe that then I've got a warehouse of peaches to sell you at a great price. http://www.metimes.com/International/2008/08/11/special_report_kuwait_readying_for_war_in_gulf/7724/ Have any idea what long range planning that takes? We're being had again.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Edwards affair cost Hillary the nomination
It seems as if Hillary is always being screwed over by philandering men... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do believe this could be the case. Of course if you believe that Obama is/was the candidate of destiny, then maybe he would have prevailed anyway. But if you're Hillary, you've got to be damning your luck. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5553013page=1
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
(snip) Robert wrote: Give the guy a break; So, why is it, Robert, that the young guy needs a vacation, and the old guy has been working for what, 20 years? And, why is it, Robert, that the young guy is taking a vacation in the middle of a war, and the old guy, still campaigning, wants the Russians to withdraw? But, the young guy wants the Georgians to give up? (snip) Nobody's gonna stop the Russians from doing anything. We have left ourselves weak with no leverage. Bush looked Putin in the eye and 'saw his soul'... Wow! I guess God told him to invade Iraq. After invading Iraq, what moral ground do we have to stand on; With the Russians or anyone else? It is a good thing to get rest. If there is anything I learned from Maharishi, It's the need for rest. Remember rest and activity. These military types, who want to go until they drop; Might not make the best decisons, if they are so fatiqued. Reagan used to have this attitude big time. The old guy, just wants to send in the troops. He's an old soldier, and has one solution to all problems. Send in more troops... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
But, the young guy wants the Georgians to give up? After invading Iraq, what moral ground do we have to stand on... Why would Barak be on any less moral ground than the Russians who also invaded Afghanistan? It is a good thing to get rest. In the middle of a war? The old guy, just wants to send in the troops. You don't seem to be very will informed, Robert. Barak Obama, the young guy, fully supports the war in Afghanistan and he wants to send in thousands more U.S. troops to win the war there. He's an old soldier, and has one solution to all problems. Send in more troops... Sen. Obama: In speaking with the commanders in Afghanistan, as well as folks who are out in the field, the strong impression was that more troops are needed and that we are spread thin. It's not the only solution, but it is part of a more comprehensive focus on what I consider to be the central front on terrorism. Read the full interview: 'Interview with Sen. Barack Obama' By Leo Shane III Stars and Stripes, Monday, August 11, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/5dvqk7
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warmonger Alert !
Bhairitu wrote: You need to get some smarts, Willy, Hinderaker is nothing more than warmongering NeoCon shill and indeed stupid. One can only imagine the astonishment and glee with which Russia's leaders are observing Nancy Pelosi's nearly hysterical determination to prevent the United States from developing its own oil resources, and the fecklessness of Democratic Presidential nominee Barack Obama in the face of their aggression against an American ally. Read more: 'War In Georgia: The Oil Angle' Posted by John Hinderaker Powerline, August 10, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/6c9vnl
[FairfieldLife] Georgia Under Online Assault
Georgia Under Online Assault By Noah Shachtman August 10, 2008 | 12:29:00 PMCategories: Crazy Ivans, Info War The websites of Georgia's government have been under denial-of-service attacks for weeks, with Russian hackers fingered as the culprits. Those online assaults have only intensified in recent days, as a shooting war between the two countries has broken out. Galrahn at Information Dissimenation says that Russia appears to have targeted the .ge domain for specific government websites, and are pounding the Georgian military networks, but other websites in Georgia in org, net, and other domains are still up, sporadically. The Washington Post adds that the Caucasus Network Tbilisi -- key Georgian commercial Internet servers -- remain under sustained attack from thousands of compromised PCs aimed at flooding the sites with so much junk Web traffic that they can no longer accommodate legitimate visitors. IntelFusion calls it a full scale cyberwar being conducted by Russia against Georgia. As always, however, its extremely difficult to sort out which hacks are being done with Russian government involvement, which are being done with government wink-and-a-nod, and which have nothing to do with the government whatsoever. UPDATE: Everyone from Google to the Estonian government is now pitching in, to give Georgia a hand.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Georgia Under Online Assault
Robert wrote: Georgia Under Online Assault 'It is crucial to the world's volatile energy market and the only oil and gas route that bypasses Russia's stranglehold on energy exports from the region.' - Daily Mail Let's hope that this brings back some of some of that first-term President Bush. Otherwise, surely bad things will follow. President Bush sees himself as a bold, Trumanesque President. It's time for a bold response like the Berlin Airlift. Read more: 'War in Georgia: What is to be done?' Posted by Scott Johnson Powerline, August 11, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/65acx5
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Truth watch: I just read the exchange between the two post counters and found it a model of civility and good sense. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You've even got dueling post count programs, fighting it out for supremacy and shouting, You're a LIAR -- MY count is correct and yours is WRONG at each other. This place is a ZOO. Insight into how Unca T interprets things, perhaps? Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
(snip) You don't seem to be very will informed, Robert. Barak Obama, the young guy, fully supports the war in Afghanistan and he wants to send in thousands more U.S. troops to win the war there. He's an old soldier, and has one solution to all problems. Send in more troops... Sen. Obama: In speaking with the commanders in Afghanistan, as well as folks who are out in the field, the strong impression was that more troops are needed and that we are spread thin. It's not the only solution, but it is part of a more comprehensive focus on what I consider to be the central front on terrorism. I don't understand what the problem is with this. The crazy Islamic boys, hang out there, On the border; Pakastan is a threat to India, besides. They have nukes... Barack is not so young... He's just young compared to the old man. In the middle of a war, whose war is it? It's probably about oil again... We were building up Georgia to get the oil. Putin now sees that the Russians need the oil more. We need to get off of oil. Oil is the main ingredient of all of these conflicts. When we find a way to get past oil, we will get past these conficts. R.g.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Truth watch: I just read the exchange between the two post counters and found it a model of civility and good sense. Barry has *got* to be joking if he thinks there's some kind of duel going on between post count programs. I'm trying to take over the post count duty from Bhairitu, using his PHP script, and we're just working out the kinks. Uh...that part of my post was a JOKE, guys. Did you use a smiley face emoticon in order to convey this important piece of information? We've cracked the code: he uess smilies when he's serious and forgets them when he's joking... Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do.rflex wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: bob_brigante wrote: ** I did not mean to imply that it is not a disaster for the innocent victims of war in Georgia, only that it could not be a major international issue that you fear because nobody gives a shit what happens to Georgians and even if they did, nobody could face down Russian power in that locale, not any more than they could after years of war in Chechnya, which borders Georgia ( http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/Chechnya.asp ). If you want to contemplate once again the ugly face of war, here's some pathetic photos of this current stupid human trick: http://tinyurl.com/5pz4c6 from: http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/08/11/world/20080811GEORGIA_2.ht ml Some people in the US think that Russia attacked Georgia for its peaches. Worse, the warmongers have jumped on the band wagon Oh no, good Americans are supposed to be watching the Olympics instead of the war in Georgia. I moved from Seattle long ago and can't see the Olympics from the Bay Area. But I did see Darth Cheney spewing his vile on the news last night. Do these fools think they're going to sucker us into a war with Russia because we're worried about our empty gas tanks? Hey, Bob Kerry says that John McCain is trustworthy on these issues. ANd McCain wants to put us in a position to be forced to attack Russia by speeding up the admission of Georgia into NATO. Since its very possible that this thing is where it is at because Russia is trying to pre-empt the inclusion of Georgia into NATO, I'm not sure what he thinks forcing RUssia's hand will do. OUr entire posture against the USSR was MAD. WE're not going to launch nuclear missiles over Georgia. ANd short of that, we don't have the military power to do much to protect a country that sits within the old Soviet borders. Lawson Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
Robert wrote: I don't understand what the problem is with this. So, you're confused. FYI to Robert: the good guys are the Georgians; the bad guys are the Russians. Your candidate, Barak Obama supports the good guys. Do you now understand? In the middle of a war, whose war is it? Barak's? Barak fully supports the war in Afghanistan and he fully supports the Georgians. Barak wants to send in more troops to Afghanistan, to win the war. Now the question is: whose side is Robert on? Sen. Obama: In speaking with the commanders in Afghanistan, as well as folks who are out in the field, the strong impression was that more troops are needed and that we are spread thin. It's not the only solution, but it is part of a more comprehensive focus on what I consider to be the central front on terrorism.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
Lawson wrote: McCain wants to put us in a position to be forced to attack Russia by speeding up the admission of Georgia into NATO. Speed up? NATO is scheduled to review the question of Georgia's membership in December. OUr entire posture against the USSR was MAD. Huh? If Georgia were in NATO, would NATO now be at war with Russia? More likely, Russia would not be in Georgia. Only once in NATO's 59 years has the territory of a member been invaded -- the British Falklands, by Argentina, in 1982. Read more: 'A new war: This complicates things' By George Will Star-Tribune, August 11, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/5sm6re
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: snip Barry has *got* to be joking if he thinks there's some kind of duel going on between post count programs. I'm trying to take over the post count duty from Bhairitu, using his PHP script, and we're just working out the kinks. Uh...that part of my post was a JOKE, guys. Did you use a smiley face emoticon in order to convey this important piece of information? We've cracked the code: he uess smilies when he's serious and forgets them when he's joking... No no no. Barry has already graciously explained to us that when he uses a smiley face, it means he's laughing at what he's writing. So we are to interpret the lack of a smiley face in this instance to mean that he was joking about the software duel, but the joke wasn't funny.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Edwards affair cost Hillary the nomination
Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've got to admit the wind has been at Senator Obama's back... I believe this may be the most moderate comment you've made about Obama. :)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
Richard J. Williams wrote: You're not even making any sense - Obama and most of the Dems agree that Russia should withdraw their troops. Bhairitu wrote: And what has that to do with the NeoCon dogs barking the people into America sheeple into WW IV? You sound really scared - better check under I prefer my Russian women in bed but I guess you're into some kind of kinky sex under the bed? Pray tell, what kind of sex is that, Peaches?
[FairfieldLife] 'F**Ks News Hires Wolfson...'
'Wolfson seeks refuge at Fox news...' BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. — Faced with questions he didn't like from members of the Television Critics Association, Fox News anchorman Chris Wallace reverted to Fox News form — he went on the attack. It's classic Fox News Channel behavior. This is, after all, a cable network that has kept a blacklist of journalists whose questions it refuses to answer (and whose phone calls it refuses to return) because of coverage it considers unflattering. (Fox News chairman Roger Ailes once denied this in another TCA press conference, but it is irrefutable fact.) Wallace, analysts Karl Rove and Howard Wolfson and Fox News executive vice president John Moody appeared before members of the TCA recently to discuss their political coverage. And questions were raised about both analysts. Wolfson is Sen. Hillary Clinton's former communications director; Rove is President Bush's former political guru. So it was not out of line to ask them both if they were offering analysis or campaigning for votes for their respective political parties. The fact is, both of them are clearly identified by their political positions on the air, but it was nonetheless a legitimate question. Story continues below As were questions about having Rove comment on the news when he's still part of the news. He is, after all, in jeopardy of being cited for contempt of Congress. And yet Wallace chose to interpret perfectly legitimate questions as attacks, and he launched counterattacks at the questioners. I'm struck by what I think is a double standard in the questions that particularly Karl is being asked here, he said. I don't understand. Maybe somebody can explain to me why it is that if Congress and the White House are having a fight (over) executive power, that that should in any way constrain an independent news organization's decision as to who it's going to have on its payroll and who it's going to talk to. That's absolutely disingenuous. First, asking the question allowed Rove to explain his position, which he did quite capably: He said he is simply caught in the middle of a fight over executive privilege. And it allowed Fox News to explain its rationale for hiring him. Which Moody did quite capably, calling him a certified authority on the electoral process (and) on politics; his track record speaks for itself. Wallace, however, immediately drew the conclusion that Fox News was somehow being treated unfairly. I question (if) it were a conservative Congress that had subpoenaed James Carville, let's say, who was in a fight with Congress about testifying and he were under subpoena, whether you'd be asking CNN why they're trafficking with James Carville, Wallace said. Having attended TCA press tours since 1990, I feel comfortable telling you that the answer to Wallace's hypothetical question is that, yes, it absolutely would have been asked. Just days earlier, CNN staffers had been subjected to questioning they didn't particularly like. (Yours truly has written two rather negative columns about CNN in recent weeks, including one that ran yesterday.) Yet Wallace wouldn't accept that. You would? I wonder, he said — essentially calling a room full of journalists liars at the same time he was taking umbrage over questions about his own organization. Wallace went on to question whether MSNBC would get any tough questions. I think sometimes there's a double standard here, Wallace reiterated. I think that MSNBC and its coverage of this campaign went so far over the line in terms of being in the tank to Barack Obama that it lost a lot of credibility. Specifically, he complained that MSNBC's Keith Olbermann, who was delivering 10-minute screeds against President Bush, telling him to shut the hell up, telling Hillary Clinton to get out of the campaign, was then anchoring political coverage. A perfectly legitimate question. One that I asked myself when MSNBC made its presentation. (And the TV column that will run in Friday's paper is critical of MSNBC.) As for Wallace, his behavior certainly didn't help make the case that FNC is fair and balanced. Maybe he's been in the Fox News bunker so long that he's lost perspective. (Yours truly has written two rather negative columns about CNN in recent weeks, including one that ran yesterday.) Yet Wallace wouldn't accept that. You would? I wonder, he said — essentially calling a room full of journalists liars at the same time he was taking umbrage over questions about his own organization. Wallace went on to question whether MSNBC would get any tough questions. I think sometimes there's a double standard here, Wallace reiterated. I think that MSNBC and its coverage of this campaign went so far over the line in terms of being in the tank to Barack Obama that it lost a lot of credibility. Specifically, he complained that MSNBC's Keith Olbermann, who was delivering 10-minute screeds against
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sadhana DVD
Looks great I've got in on my Netflix cue now. I read Bede Griffithss book Vedanta and Christian Faith when I was staying with the meditating monks in Saint Joseph's Abbey in Mass around 1979. I am looking forward to seeing this trip while I avoid the dysentery! I was inches from going right from my phase III in Seelisberg to India. I wanted to spend some time in Uttar Kashi after my long long journey to TTC. Ultimately I decided that I needed to go right home and start teaching. I'm glad in retrospect that I didn't go alone as I had planned. I was a bit too naive for that journey. I was counting on nature's support back before I learned that nature also serves up tsunamis! But I understand the motivation for my old Purusha friends living there now. Does anyone hear from them? I didn't see anyone I recognized in the pictures at Maharishi's cremation. Thanks for posting this film. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Namaste, My name is Jean-Pierre Piché and I am the producer and director of the film Sadhana - Back to the Source: http://www.sadhanafilm.com http://www.sadhanafilm.com/ This feature documentary film depicts the odyssey of a young Westerner who follows the call of his soul to India - the land of ancient and spiritual Wisdom of the East. During the next months, he travels from the hotlands of Southern India (Mount Arunachala) to the source of the Ganges river in the Himalayas. Along the way, he meets holy and spiritual teachers (including Father Bede Griffiths of the Shantivanam ashram), travels and learns the discipline of detachment with a sadhu and attends India's most sacred religious festival, the Kumbha Mela. American and Canadian public and film reviewers loved this enchanting personalyzed documentary feature film (80 minutes) that was screened in more than a hundred cinema theatres throughout Canada and USA. According to reviewers, Sadhana is a must-see for all spiritual seekers and anyone interested in India's spiritual legacy. Critics compared it in scope and impact to such films as Siddhartha and Meetings With Remarkable Men. They pointed out its stunning visuals and unforgettable music. (See Website http://www.sadhanafilm.com/ www.sadhanafilm.com for excerpts of film reviews) The film was also presented on Canadian telivision in its English original version on the Vision TV channel and in French on CBC Radio-Canada as a three half hour series (Second-Regard) and in its full length (Horizon documentary program). At the time of its preparation, the project had received support from among others, Dr. David Miller from Concordia University, R.W. Stevenson from McGill University, Professor John Rossner from Concordia University, professor André Couture from Université de Laval and Christian Miquel from Université de Montréal. The film is now available in DVD (DVD9 Multizone NTSC) format for educational television, institutional market, organizations and home video market. To help promoting the film, I recently published an official Website of the film at the following address: http://www.sadhanafilm.com/ http://www.sadhanafilm.com Visiting this site you will be able to see a promotion trailer of the film, read a brief description, some of the reviews and a history of the film since its release in North American film theatres, and purchase the DVD (personal use) through its online store (Paypal secure direct payment). If you want more information don't hesitate to contact me. Here are some of the Colleges and Universities that have already purchased the DVD: Alma College Library, Michigan Boston College, Maine Columbia University Cornell University Elon University Memorial University of Newfoundland Nazareth College Nipissing University, North Bay, Ontario North Central College, Naperville, Illinois Northwestern University, Evanston (Illinois) Sir Wilfrid Laurier University Smith College, Northampton, Maine St-John's University, Collegeville, Minnesota St. Mary's College of Maryland St. Mary's University, Halifax, Nova-Scotia Université d'Ottawa University of Calgary University of Pennsylvania Washington University in St-Louis Kind Regards, Jean-Pierre Piché 4, blv. Jutras Est Victoriaville (Qc) Canada G6P 4K3 Email address : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[FairfieldLife] A Good Place to get World News
Just a reminder. Rather than rely on the US''s corporate fascist MSM: http://watchingamerica.com/News/ See how the rest of the world views the US.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian-Georgia Conflict
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert wrote: I don't understand what the problem is with this. So, you're confused. FYI to Robert: the good guys are the Georgians; the bad guys are the Russians. Your candidate, Barak Obama supports the good guys. Do you now understand? In the middle of a war, whose war is it? Barak's? Barak fully supports the war in Afghanistan and he fully supports the Georgians. Barak wants to send in more troops to Afghanistan, to win the war. Now the question is: whose side is Robert on? I wear a White Hat, and try if not always; To be on the 'Good Guy's side'... So, concerning the Georgians, what would you do Tex? Would you confront the Ruskies? They can be pretty brutal you know. Even the h-man, found that out. Bad weather too! Does this skirmish of the Russians, Effect our national security? Didn't we invade another country, recently? Why can't you percieve that Barack is positioned to be: One of the best presidents, this country ever's had. I can't understand why people can't see this? R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Good Place to get World News
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a reminder. Rather than rely on the US''s corporate fascist MSM: http://watchingamerica.com/News/ See how the rest of the world views the US. Thanks for the Tip... But, pray tell, how do you get that Bill Gates and Microsoft are facists? I thought Bill Gates was one of the a 'good guy's? They are also owned by G.E. G.E. will be making all this turbine wind power stuff... I like MSNBC cable; It's at least semi-intelligent coverage. Maybe your speaking of another network? R.G.
