[FairfieldLife] "The Smoothie" [was Re: "I create my reality" Yeah, right...]

[sparaig]

I meant "enlightenment" as defined by the physiological changes brought about 
by the long-term practice of TM as opposed to "enlightenment" defined by the 
physiological changes brought about by the long-term practice of other 
techniques, such as mindfulness.

There's several fundamental differences in how teh nervous system behaves in 
long-term TMers and long-term practitioners of mindfulness, and most other 
forms of meditation.

Specifically: most other forms of meditation depress the activity of the parts 
of the brain thought to be responsible for sense of self.

TM enhances those same parts of the brain.

Most other forms of meditation serve to decouple various parts of the brain 
from each other, making them less and less in-synch as time goes on.

TM has exactly the opposite effect.


L



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> I think spare means TM-style enlightenment, because Maharishi was the first 
> to symptomize the increasing maturity of the nervous system, leading to 
> greater and greater freedom. He attempted to demystify it. 
> 
> So yeah, liberation is liberation, though it helps to keep the relative 
> stages in mind, to differentiate, for example, between the intermediate stage 
> of freedom, CC, and the Advanced/Intermediate stage of freedom, UC. 
> 
> Maharishi always implied that CC, GC and UC are the ingredients, with BC 
> being the resulting "Smoothie" - lol!
> 
> The t'ing is, as you know (ha-ha!), all of this makes no difference until it 
> can be directly tied with experience. Then, it makes perfect sense. Though it 
> may not be experienced as linear, it is easy to follow Maharishi's 
> progression, as he taught it, from CC to GC to UC, integrating greater 
> silence into activity, and then the Buddha on the road gets offed, so to 
> speak. 
> 
> The tricky bit is, prior to these experiences, and the establishment of what 
> I will call, "The Smoothie", each stage of consciousness is one more thing 
> for the ego to watch and wait for, and attempt to own.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > LOL! "TM-style englightenment"? That's one for the books. As 
> > differentiated from all other moksha? Come now, the TM technique is 
> > nothing more than common beej aksharas long used in vedic astrology and 
> > ayurveda as well as probably a few obscure yoga traditions. The advanced 
> > technique has more in common with mantras given to the masses (as 
> > opposed to disciples of a tradition).
> > 
> > Also any real study might want to differentiate between long term 
> > meditators who never got the advanced technique and those that did. That 
> > wasn't mentioned in the study. Basically you have researches who 
> > probably don't know much about yoga at all: blind men describing an 
> > elephant.
> > 
> > The topic was enlightenment in general and not "TM-style enlightenment" 
> > of which there is no such thing. Enlightenment is enlightenment.
> > 
> > On 07/17/2013 01:49 PM, sparaig wrote:
> > > The topic is TM-style enlightenment, and while you have a point about 
> > > parroting, the first report of enlightened TMers was from a psychologist 
> > > reporting about 6 of his patients, TMers all, who were complaining of a 
> > > permanent depersonalization with no issues other than intellectual 
> > > confusion as to why their "I" was completely uninvolved with thinking, 
> > > feeling, acting, remembering, etc.
> > >
> > > The report prompted the DMS-IV to add a spiritual/religious exception to 
> > > the diagnosis of depersonalization disorder.
> > >
> > > The fact that the patients had forgotten, or didn't make the connection, 
> > > between their state and the CC state in TM theory, suggests that it is a 
> > > natural progression due to TM practice, rather than expectations.
> > >
> > > A more recent study looked at non-TMers who happened to be world 
> > > champion/national champion athletes (compete at the national level and 
> > > consistently score in teh top 10) vs non-champion athletes at the same 
> > > level (compete in the same competitions but never break the 50% mark) and 
> > > found that the champions tended to score midway between teh short-term 
> > > TMers and the enlightened TMers on both their EEG and their descriptions 
> > > of self.
> > >
> > > This also supports the theory that the TM-style enlightenment is a 
> > > natural thing, leading to similar descriptions of the state, regardless 
> > > of your spiritual background (none of the athletes did TM or other 
> > > meditation techniques).
> > >
> > > L
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >> And where's the group that practiced other meditation programs? Also TM
> > >> people start sounding like parrots of stuff they learned from SCI,
> > >> rounding courses, etc. They can't seem to put their experiences in their
> > >> own words.
> > >>
> > >> On 07/16/2013 11:39 PM, sparaig wrote:
> > >>> People respond 

[FairfieldLife] The Neuroscience of Narcissism

[turquoiseb]

Fascinating article. Basically, the research cited seems
to suggest that your self is heroin, and talking about
yourself is your brain's way of shooting up. And, as we
have certainly seen here on FFL, and with certain people
in particular (think the guy who could write 4,000 words
into a post, thus rendering it *unreadable* by anyone
other than himself) it *really doesn't matter* whether 
anyone is listening to you talk about yourself or not.
You get high anyway.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-neuroscience-of-everybody-favorite-topic-themselves

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Ravi Chivukula]

Hmm..I wonder why your Appalachian, racist, homophobic little dick got
aroused by that Mikey boy? Some real deep wounds there huh - good to
finally know the reason for your obsessive rants the last couple of days.



On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Mike Dixon  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Another black man with a hard-on for a white woman. LOL
>
>*From:* Ravi Chivukula 
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:05 PM
>
> *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
>  **
>
>  Jai White Kali
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> >
> > Come on Mikey boy did you even read my post?
> >
> > Stop this white on white violence. When will idiots like you learn? Isn't
> > it enough that African Americans have enslaved us for thousands of years?
> > we can't let this white on white violence shit take us down dude.
> >
> > African Americans have convinced us that Kali is black. No dude, Kali is
> > fucking white dude - don't fall prey to this bigoted campaign of blacks.
> >
> > JUST STOP IT MIKE. You are hurting our cause.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Ravioli not only justifies his own bad behavior, in the name of his
> Mother
> > > Goddess Kali, but now justifies the bad behavior of a teen attacking
> > > someone out of an irrational fear. I guess Zimmerman was supposed to
> lie
> > > their on his back and take it like a man... a white-Hispanic man at
> that
> > > and if death or severe injury occurred, well... it's his *karma*.
> > >
> > > *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
> > > *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:47 PM
> > > *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic
> bigot
> > > **
> > >
> > > Yes I think Mikey boy's right.Zimmerman had to act in self-defense
>
> > > against the racist, homophobic bigotry of African Americans,
> epitomized by
> > > Travyon.** **How can one not feel the pain and burden of Whites with
>
> > > their long history of slavery when African American landowners shipped
> them
> > > from Europe, then being confined to housing projects with rampant guns,
> > > drugs, cheap wine, cheap meat - coupled with systematic racism denying
> them
> > > employment opportunities forcing a cycle of white-on-white violence,
> high
> > > crime rate, alcoholism and drug abuse. The burden of being constantly
> > > profiled, harassed and abused by the predominantly African-American
> police.
> > > God I myself spent 3 years around housing projecting witnessing the
> pain
> > > and burden of Whites.** **Who can ever forget a bunch of African
>
> > > Americans torturing, tying the young homosexual Mathew Shepard to a
> fence
> > > and leaving him to die.My sympathies are with Whites, Mikey boy and
> > > Zimmerman.
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:
> > > **
> > >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > > Zimmerman defended his life from a person with an irrational fear of
> > > him. He had no other choice.
> > >
> > > *From:* feste37 feste37@...
> > > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:57 PM
> > > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
> > > **
>
> > >
> > > Maybe Trayvon thought that Zimmerman was an alien -- a creature from
> Mars
> > > or somewhere like that. It was Trayvon's irrational fear of
> > > extraterrestrial life that killed him. Zimmerman had nothing to do
> with it.
> > > ** **
> > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ,
> > > Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote:** >** > Looks like a new version of
>
> > > the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, see Drudge Report. Seems
> > > that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that Rachel Jeantel reported
> > > that race had nothing to do with the encounter . She said that she and
> > > Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*,�a homosexual
> rapist at
>
> > > that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by Zimmerman following him.
> > > He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home because his little
> > > brother was there and might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended
> to
> > > give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat
> the
> > > snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a
> pounding
> > > for 45 seconds and then fired in self defense.�In short,
> Trayvon'shomophobia killed him.
> > > ** >** **
> > > 
> > >
> > > **
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>   
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: LB Shriver's birth data

[doctordumbass]

hmm, yeah, I see what you mean...I was afraid you were going to say 
that...fricking 10th house, again - astral foreclosure - its all underwater, 
and the *interest* rates are rising - dagnabbit! If only Ketu could be spread 
on Pita...oh well, tits on a bull, at this point...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "at_man_and_brahman@..." 
 wrote:
>
> Some of you might be interested in looking at LB's Jyotish chart. According 
> to him in the Church of Ed video, he was born at 5:30 am. He was delivered in 
> Fairfield, 20 November 1946. He has a raja yoga karaka Shani in the 10th 
> house, aspecting Guru alone in the 1st house. Exalted Rahu and Ketu, and five 
> grahas in the 2nd house.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Mike Dixon]

I saw nothing in the NYT piece that conflicted with the testimony in the trial. 
If you are concerned about who was on top, Trayvon punched Zimmerman in the 
nose and Zimmerman fell back. Trayvon straddled him punching and slamming 
Zimmerman's head against the side walk. Zimmerman screamed for help, a male 
witness saw it and called 911 but would not come help Zimmerman. Zimmerman 
shoots Martin and then gets him off top and then Zimmerman pins Trayvon down to 
make sure Trayvon didn't have a weapon. This is what the women witnessed. 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 5:56 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
  
   
 


--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
wrote:
>
> The "Matthew Shepard treatment" refers to getting the snot beat of you 
> because your *gay*, by a bigot ,nothing more ,nothing less and that *appears* 
> to be what Martin was up to, according to his friend that he was on the phone 
> with at the time, and testified  to on behalf of the prosecution and said on 
> Pierce Morgan's CNN program. The problem is, what part of Trayvon's behavior 
> is defensible? The part that thought he was beating up a gay man stalking him 
> or the part that thought he was beating up a white man that was *profiling* 
> him. Empathy for a tragic loss of life is one thing but ignoring the facts is 
> quite another and there was absolutely no justification for Trayvon's attack 
> on Zimmerman. By the way, had you watched Anderson Cooper's interview with 
> one of the jurors just before Pierce Morgan's program, you would have learned 
> that one reason Zimmerman was suspicious of Trayvon was not simply because 
> Trayvon was black,walking slowly in the rain,
>  wearing a hoodie but that he was cutting through yards, close to houses and 
> looking in windows as he walked by. This would be suspicious activity to 
> anybody, epically if there had been as many burglaries as had been reported 
> in that neighborhood.   
> 

Matthew Shepard was profiled and murdered by homophobes because he was gay. 
There the notion that Trayvon was a homophobe profiling Zimmerman because he 
thought he was gay is ridiculous.  Bottom line, Zimmerman profiled and followed 
Trayvon because he was black. If Zimmerman hadn't followed Trayvon and didn't 
have a gun, Trayvon Martin wouldn't be dead. 

Don't be so sure you know what happened, Mike. Especially if you choose to 
believe everything Zimmerman says. Obviously he has good reason to lie. There 
are conflicting stories from witnesses that call Zimmerman's account of into 
question. We are not even certain who was screaming on the phone. 
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/02/us/the-events-leading-to-the-shooting-of-trayvon-martin.html?_r=0

> 
>  From: Emily Reyn 
> To: "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"; 
>  
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
> 
>   
> 
> DuhI know why he was targeted.  My point was that your stating that 
> "Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment" was 
> completely ridiculous - case in point - I posted the treatment Mr. Shepard 
> got and called you out on using such a ridiculous analogy.  One that seemed 
> to me to stem from complete ignorance.  That's all.  All that other stuff 
> you say is gibberish.   
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Mike Dixon 
> To: "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"; 
>  
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
> 
>   
> ROFLMAO! Doesn't take long! Why is it that liberals almost always resort to 
> calling people that they disagree with a racist, bigot, homophobe? The 
> Democrat's Holy Trinity! Your article fails to mention that the reason 
> "Matthew Shepard" was targeted by these guys was because he was gay. Must not 
> have been an important part of the equation for you. Maybe that wouldn't be 
> an important part either, if it were the case with why Martin attacked 
> Zimmerman. I guess being a black teen cancels out homophobia and being 
> white-Hispanic cancels out being Hispanic. What we have here is a conflict of 
> interests. Who gets the most empathy?
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Emily Reyn 
> To: "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"; 
>  
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
> 
>   
> Yep, I like this.  Common sense.  
> 
> Mike, you done gone off the deep end on this and you misspelled his name.  
> "Matthew Shepard" was his name.  You sound both racist and homophobic 
> yourself.     
> 
> On the night of October 6â€"7, 1998, Shepard met Aaron McKinney

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to improve TM practice - a heretic's guide

[Seraphita]

Yes, Tantra is not about sex. But some schools of tantra have used sex
as a vehicle - the male and female unite physically (sorry - that sounds
a bit prissy - they fuck)  and represent Shiva and Shakti, the male and
female principles. It's the yin and yang pointing to the Tao. I think
that one of the more unfortunate side-effects of British rule in India
was that Indians developed an inferiority complex in the face of their
rulers' Christian puritan attitudes and became ashamed of their own
historical practices. They tried to "clean up their act" and developed a
more acceptable and respectable Advaita-Vedantic presentation. Nothing
necessarily wrong with that but Indians felt they had to hide the more
kick-ass tantric practices they'd developed over centuries. That could
mean we're missing out on their most important contribution to . . . er,
what? . . . "spirituality"?
I've Favourited the YouTube talks to watch later.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Tantra is not about sex.  If you find someone claiming to be a tantric
> and says it's about sex they're a charlatan.  In the UK look up some
of
> the Indian astrologers. Some of them are tantrics. Some may entertain
a
> visit and answer questions.  But you need to come armed with knowledge
> to know what to look for and separate the wheat from the chaff.  I
would
> suggest Dr. Robert Svoboda's trilogy on tantra to know what to look
> for.  Even with my own late tantra teacher I didn't jump right in but
> tested him for several months.  His videos:
> http://www.youtube.com/user/Swami999
>

[FairfieldLife] "The Smoothie" [was Re: "I create my reality" Yeah, right...]

[doctordumbass]

I think spare means TM-style enlightenment, because Maharishi was the first to 
symptomize the increasing maturity of the nervous system, leading to greater 
and greater freedom. He attempted to demystify it. 

So yeah, liberation is liberation, though it helps to keep the relative stages 
in mind, to differentiate, for example, between the intermediate stage of 
freedom, CC, and the Advanced/Intermediate stage of freedom, UC. 

Maharishi always implied that CC, GC and UC are the ingredients, with BC being 
the resulting "Smoothie" - lol!

The t'ing is, as you know (ha-ha!), all of this makes no difference until it 
can be directly tied with experience. Then, it makes perfect sense. Though it 
may not be experienced as linear, it is easy to follow Maharishi's progression, 
as he taught it, from CC to GC to UC, integrating greater silence into 
activity, and then the Buddha on the road gets offed, so to speak. 

The tricky bit is, prior to these experiences, and the establishment of what I 
will call, "The Smoothie", each stage of consciousness is one more thing for 
the ego to watch and wait for, and attempt to own.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> LOL! "TM-style englightenment"? That's one for the books. As 
> differentiated from all other moksha? Come now, the TM technique is 
> nothing more than common beej aksharas long used in vedic astrology and 
> ayurveda as well as probably a few obscure yoga traditions. The advanced 
> technique has more in common with mantras given to the masses (as 
> opposed to disciples of a tradition).
> 
> Also any real study might want to differentiate between long term 
> meditators who never got the advanced technique and those that did. That 
> wasn't mentioned in the study. Basically you have researches who 
> probably don't know much about yoga at all: blind men describing an 
> elephant.
> 
> The topic was enlightenment in general and not "TM-style enlightenment" 
> of which there is no such thing. Enlightenment is enlightenment.
> 
> On 07/17/2013 01:49 PM, sparaig wrote:
> > The topic is TM-style enlightenment, and while you have a point about 
> > parroting, the first report of enlightened TMers was from a psychologist 
> > reporting about 6 of his patients, TMers all, who were complaining of a 
> > permanent depersonalization with no issues other than intellectual 
> > confusion as to why their "I" was completely uninvolved with thinking, 
> > feeling, acting, remembering, etc.
> >
> > The report prompted the DMS-IV to add a spiritual/religious exception to 
> > the diagnosis of depersonalization disorder.
> >
> > The fact that the patients had forgotten, or didn't make the connection, 
> > between their state and the CC state in TM theory, suggests that it is a 
> > natural progression due to TM practice, rather than expectations.
> >
> > A more recent study looked at non-TMers who happened to be world 
> > champion/national champion athletes (compete at the national level and 
> > consistently score in teh top 10) vs non-champion athletes at the same 
> > level (compete in the same competitions but never break the 50% mark) and 
> > found that the champions tended to score midway between teh short-term 
> > TMers and the enlightened TMers on both their EEG and their descriptions of 
> > self.
> >
> > This also supports the theory that the TM-style enlightenment is a natural 
> > thing, leading to similar descriptions of the state, regardless of your 
> > spiritual background (none of the athletes did TM or other meditation 
> > techniques).
> >
> > L
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >> And where's the group that practiced other meditation programs? Also TM
> >> people start sounding like parrots of stuff they learned from SCI,
> >> rounding courses, etc. They can't seem to put their experiences in their
> >> own words.
> >>
> >> On 07/16/2013 11:39 PM, sparaig wrote:
> >>> People respond to the interview question "Describe your self," in 
> >>> different ways, depending on the physiological state of their nervous 
> >>> system.
> >>>
> >>> Researchers on the effects of Transcendental Meditation asked for people 
> >>> who had been practicing TM who were reporting a certain kind of 
> >>> experience -- ["pure 
> >>> consciousness"](http://www.psychosomaticmedicine.org/content/44/2/133.full.pdf)
> >>>  -- as a permanent trait outside of meditation practice, to respond to 
> >>> that question, and correlated their answers with physiological measures.
> >>>
> >>> They did the same with 2 other groups of people, people who had never 
> >>> learned TM but wanted to, and people who had been practicing TM for 
> >>> several years, but didn't report permanent pure consciousness outside of 
> >>> meditation or very frequently during.
> >>>
> >>> Researchers than correlated the answers to the question with the 
> >>> physiological measures, and established a "Brain Integration Scale," with 
> >>> the 
> >>> [psych

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Ravi Chivukula]

Come on Mikey boy did you even read my post?

Stop this white on white violence. When will idiots like you learn? Isn't
it enough that African Americans have enslaved us for thousands of years?
we can't let this white on white violence shit take us down dude.

African Americans have convinced us that Kali is black. No dude, Kali is
fucking white dude - don't fall prey to this bigoted campaign of blacks.

JUST STOP IT MIKE. You are hurting our cause.



On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Mike Dixon  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Ravioli not only justifies his own bad behavior, in the name of his Mother
> Goddess Kali, but now justifies the bad behavior of a teen attacking
> someone out of an irrational fear. I guess Zimmerman was supposed to lie
> their on his back and take it like a man... a white-Hispanic man at that
> and if death or severe injury occurred, well... it's his *karma*.
>
>*From:* Ravi Chivukula 
> *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:47 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
>  **
>
> Yes I think Mikey boy's right.Zimmerman had to act in self-defense
> against the racist, homophobic bigotry of African Americans, epitomized by
> Travyon.** **How can one not feel the pain and burden of Whites with
> their long history of slavery when African American landowners shipped them
> from Europe, then being confined to housing projects with rampant guns,
> drugs, cheap wine, cheap meat - coupled with systematic racism denying them
> employment opportunities forcing a cycle of white-on-white violence, high
> crime rate, alcoholism and drug abuse. The burden of being constantly
> profiled, harassed and abused by the predominantly African-American police.
> God I myself spent 3 years around housing projecting witnessing the pain
> and burden of Whites.** **Who can ever forget a bunch of African
> Americans torturing, tying the young homosexual Mathew Shepard to a fence
> and leaving him to die.My sympathies are with Whites, Mikey boy and
> Zimmerman.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> **
>
> **
>
>  Zimmerman defended his life from a person with an irrational fear of
> him. He had no other choice.
>
>*From:* feste37 
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:57 PM
> *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
>  **
>
> Maybe Trayvon thought that Zimmerman was an alien -- a creature from Mars
> or somewhere like that. It was Trayvon's irrational fear of
> extraterrestrial life that killed him. Zimmerman had nothing to do with it.
> ** **
> --- In 
> mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com,
> Mike Dixon  wrote:** >** > Looks like a new version of
> the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, see Drudge Report. Seems
> that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that Rachel Jeantel reported
> that race had nothing to do with the encounter . She said that she and
> Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*,�a homosexual rapist at
> that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by Zimmerman following him.
> He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home because his little
> brother was there and might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended to
> give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the
> snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding
> for 45 seconds and then fired in self defense.�In short, 
> Trayvon'shomophobia killed him.
> ** >** **
>  
>
> **
>  
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> raunchydog:  
> > Matthew Shepard was profiled and murdered by homophobes 
> > because he was gay. There the notion that Trayvon was a 
> > homophobe profiling Zimmerman because he thought he was 
> > gay is ridiculous... 
> >
> It's been pretty much established by Rachel that Trayvon
> was a homophobe, like most black people, but who would
> have thought Trayvon would attack a gay guy, when Trayvon
> didn't even know if George was white or Hispanic? 
> 
> Go figure.
> 
> "People need to understand, he didn't want that creepy ass 
> cracka going to his father or girlfriend's house to go get 
> -- mind you, his little brother is there. Mind you I told 
> you, I told Trayvon, [Zimmerman] might have been a rapist." 
> - Rachel Jeantel
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/mbsqq8n
>

The fact that Zimmerman followed Trayvon when he should not have done so is a 
menacing act and reason enough for Trayvon to allegedly confront Zimmerman 
irrespective of Trayvon's views of gays. Zimmerman initiated the aggression, 
not Trayvon.

[FairfieldLife] One for Salyavin, one for Barry

[authfriend]

350147

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
(snip)
> > The facts are somewhat different. The states with the highest gun
> > ownership have a gun murder rate 114% higher than those with
> > the lowest gun ownership. The number of mass shootings stopped
> > by gun-toting civilians in the last thirty years is ZERO. For every
> > time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults
> > or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns
> > in or around the home. 43% of homes with guns and kids leave
> > their guns unlocked, and in one experiment, 1/3 of 8-12-year-old
> > kids who found a handgun pulled the trigger.
> 
> Very interesting.

You need to understand that Barry is driven to portray
this country in the worst possible light in order to
justify having left it. So take what he says with a
large saltshaker handy.

It's not the case, for example, that "Americans -- for
the most part -- have never had the experience of being
able to walk safely after dark almost *anywhere*."
That's just nonsense.

And Americans are "insular" only if you consider the
country one big island. It's a really huge place, very
differentiated from one area to another in many respects,
as much so as from one smaller country to another. Most
Americans do a lot of traveling; it's just that we don't
have to leave the country to do so.

We do have a problem with guns, but it isn't, as Barry
would like you to believe, because everyone is a gun nut.
In fact, there's a very intense debate on guns. The
majority want tighter controls; many would like to see a
ban on at least certain kinds of guns. But the gun lobby
is incredibly powerful, and it's extremely difficult to
get legislation passed.

This is a very big country with a wide range of points of
view. Some of them are appalling, most are pretty 
civilized. Don't let anybody tell you Americans as a whole
think a certain way or behave a certain way.

(snip)
> > America is not only an insane asylum, its inmates are
> > armed.

Which makes Barry sane for having left, you see.



350149

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
(snip)
> I invite either or both of them to dispute this by providing
> a complete list of posts (*including* the URLs to them) they 
> have made on FFL during the last month that did NOT -- 
> anywhere in the post -- contain a putdown, insult, or slam 
> against one of their regular "enemies." 
> 
> I predict no reply. All they can do is *claim* that they
> post other things. When asked to produce them, they can't.

Or, they have no interest in wasting time acceding to
Barry's ridiculous demands. Not only can we "claim" we
post "other things," we *do* post other things, and
everyone here, including Barry, knows it.

More importantly, what Barry will never, ever include
in his compulsive totting-up of his "enemies'" posts
is how many of them are *in response to* HIM ragging
on US. If he didn't rag *on* us so much, he wouldn't
get ragged on *by* us so much.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Michael Jackson]

the fact that you believe this crap is the best reason in the Universe for the 
rest of us not to believe it.





 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:16 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 


  


mjackson74:
> He won't - just watch as I have predicted, it won't 
> be long before he is in trouble with the law again, 
> of course if his next victim is black and he commits 
> his next crime in the same neighborhood, the same 
> cops who don't give a rat's ass about black victims 
> will look the other way again.
> 
Well I guess it's settled then - Trayvon Martin was a 
homophobic bigot, just like his friend Rachel said he 
was, who profiled George Zimmerman and then attacked 
and tried to kill him, calling him a ass-cracker. This
case had nothing to do with Trayvon being black or 
George being a 'white' Hispanic half-black like the
mass media is proclaiming. 

"Of all the young black shooting victims in this country, 
you can name 1. Because you've been trained like a circus 
seal to bark on command."

http://tinyurl.com/m72wbt9


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Elizabeth Warren School Media Whores on Economic Regulation

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Bhairitu:
> > Watch Senator Elizabeth Warren school them on economic 
> > regulation 101...
> > 
> Elizabeth Warren - isn't she that fancy school teacher 
> who got elected to the U.S. Senate, that's married to 
> that bankster guy? 
> 
> "Some of the freshmen senators elected in 2012 are 
> multi-millionaires, holding hundreds of thousands of 
> dollars in money-market funds, savings accounts, 
> retirement plans — even Caribbean vacation property."
> 
> The Hill:
> http://tinyurl.com/pcndfpf
>

So? Warren's millions is supposed to invalidate her position on Glass-Steagall. 
Guess what? We heard not a peep out of you about Romney's millions. Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Richard J. Williams]

mjackson74:
> He won't - just watch as I have predicted, it won't 
> be long before he is in trouble with the law again, 
> of course if his next victim is black and he commits 
> his next crime in the same neighborhood, the same 
> cops who don't give a rat's ass about black victims 
> will look the other way again.
> 
Well I guess it's settled then - Trayvon Martin was a 
homophobic bigot, just like his friend Rachel said he 
was, who profiled George Zimmerman and then attacked 
and tried to kill him, calling him a ass-cracker. This
case had nothing to do with Trayvon being black or 
George being a 'white' Hispanic half-black like the
mass media is proclaiming. 

 
 
"Of all the young black shooting victims in this country, 
you can name 1. Because you've been trained like a circus 
seal to bark on command."

http://tinyurl.com/m72wbt9

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Richard J. Williams]

> >>> So, you'uns don't want to talk about the homophobe
> >>> that started the fight and called Zimmerman a white
> >>> ass-cracker. Go figure.
> >>>
> > Bhairitu:
> >> So it's all about homophobes?  Like the homophobe on
> >> FFL who frequently proclaims "I'm not gay"?
> >>
> > Well, I think the thread of this post is 'Trayvon Martin
> > was a Homophobic bigot', not whether or not you're gay.
> >
> > So, you don't want to talk about Trayvon Martin was a
> > Homophobic bigot. Go figure.
> >
Bhairitu:
> You calling Trayvon Martin a homophobe is the pot calling 
> the kettle black.  I invite folks here to look to do a 
> search on FFL and see who uses the phrase "I'm not gay" 
> the most even on stuff that isn't related to homosexuality.  
> Somebody sounds very scared and like a Texas cracker.
>
Why bother to do the research - just come out and admit if 
you're gay or not - save us some time - I'm not gay. LoL!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Elizabeth Warren School Media Whores on Economic Regulation

[Richard J. Williams]

Bhairitu:
> Watch Senator Elizabeth Warren school them on economic 
> regulation 101...
> 
Elizabeth Warren - isn't she that fancy school teacher 
who got elected to the U.S. Senate, that's married to 
that bankster guy? 

"Some of the freshmen senators elected in 2012 are 
multi-millionaires, holding hundreds of thousands of 
dollars in money-market funds, savings accounts, 
retirement plans — even Caribbean vacation property."

The Hill:
http://tinyurl.com/pcndfpf

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Richard J. Williams]

raunchydog:  
> Matthew Shepard was profiled and murdered by homophobes 
> because he was gay. There the notion that Trayvon was a 
> homophobe profiling Zimmerman because he thought he was 
> gay is ridiculous... 
>
It's been pretty much established by Rachel that Trayvon
was a homophobe, like most black people, but who would
have thought Trayvon would attack a gay guy, when Trayvon
didn't even know if George was white or Hispanic? 

Go figure.

"People need to understand, he didn't want that creepy ass 
cracka going to his father or girlfriend's house to go get 
-- mind you, his little brother is there. Mind you I told 
you, I told Trayvon, [Zimmerman] might have been a rapist." 
- Rachel Jeantel

http://tinyurl.com/mbsqq8n

[FairfieldLife] Re: Elizabeth Warren School Media Whores on Economic Regulation

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Wow CNBC has a bunch of dunderheads for anchors.  Watch Senator 
> Elizabeth Warren school them on economic regulation 101.  I wonder how 
> many perks the CNBC pressitutes get from big banking?  Forget Hillary, 
> Warren should be our first woman president.
> 
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/17/elizabeth-warren-cnbc-anchors_n_3610893.html
>

In the clip, one of the dunderheads attempted to rewrite history arguing that 
the failure of Continental of Illinois in the 1980s means that Glass-Steagall 
was ineffective and that regulation doesn't work. Warren points out that New 
Deal banking regulation created fifty years of uneventful banking in this 
country, compared to the preceding long history of boom and bust. 

I checked out the back story on Continental. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Illinois

What went wrong is simple. The bank got "greedy" and made large investments in 
energy at a time of falling oil prices. Executive John Lytle received kickbacks 
when he arranged for the bank to hand out massive, iffy loans to energy 
concerns.

When the financial crisis of 1984 hit, Continental was the first bank deemed 
"too big to fail." Uncle Sam owned the bank for the next ten years, until it 
was sold to Bank of America. Such a move would now be deemed socialism. I guess 
that makes Ronald Reagan a socialist.

By the way, John Lytle went to jail. That's another difference between then and 
now. The Lytle conviction underlines an important truth: Continental's failure 
was not due to regulation. The failure occurred because regulations were broken.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Michael Jackson]

He won't - just watch as I have predicted, it won't be long before he is in 
trouble with the law again, of course if his next victim is black and he 
commits his next crime in the same neighborhood, the same cops who don't give a 
rat's ass about black victims will look the other way again.





 From: raunchydog 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:02 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> And the other bottom line?  George is going to have to live with this the 
> rest of his life.  Let us hope he takes his actions to heart and changes his 
> MO.  
> 

One can hope but I doubt George is going to learn anything new.

> 
> 
>  From: Emily Reyn 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
> 
> 
> 
>   
> I don't watch much TV these days - so I missed all the commentary.  But, 
> what happened to Matthew Shepard was not even in the same ballpark as 
> "getting the snot beat out of you", which is a simple point, although there 
> is a larger argument to be made re: what you were/are doing ignorantly or 
> unconsciously, IMHO, that has nothing to do with anything you've said.  But, 
> suffice it to say, you did a disservice to Matthew  by trivializing and 
> using his situation as an analogy for your opinion.  You have no idea what 
> the reality was - nobody does - and whatever words/trash talk the girlfriend 
> has offered up and all the variations on scenarios offered up to keep TV 
> commentators in employment is meaningless as well.  The bottom line is he 
> didn't deserve to die by gunshot by Zimmerman.  Period.  
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Mike Dixon 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
> 
> 
> 
>   
> The "Matthew Shepard treatment" refers to getting the snot beat of you 
> because your *gay*, by a bigot ,nothing more ,nothing less and that *appears* 
> to be what Martin was up to, according to his friend that he was on the phone 
> with at the time, and testified  to on behalf of the prosecution and said on 
> Pierce Morgan's CNN program. The problem is, what part of Trayvon's behavior 
> is defensible? The part that thought he was beating up a gay man stalking him 
> or the part that thought he was beating up a white man that was *profiling* 
> him. Empathy for a tragic loss of life is one thing but ignoring the facts is 
> quite another and there was absolutely no justification for Trayvon's attack 
> on Zimmerman. By the way, had you watched Anderson Cooper's interview with 
> one of the jurors just before Pierce Morgan's program, you would have learned 
> that one reason Zimmerman was suspicious of Trayvon was not simply because 
> Trayvon was black,walking slowly in the rain,
>  wearing a hoodie but that he was cutting through yards, close to houses and 
> looking in windows as he walked by. This would be suspicious activity to 
> anybody, epically if there had been as many burglaries as had been reported 
> in that neighborhood.   
> From: Emily Reyn 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
> 
>   
> DuhI know why he was targeted.  My point was that your stating that 
> "Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment" was 
> completely ridiculous - case in point - I posted the treatment Mr. Shepard 
> got and called you out on using such a ridiculous analogy.  One that seemed 
> to me to stem from complete ignorance.  That's all.  All that other stuff 
> you say is gibberish.   
> 
> From: Mike Dixon 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
> 
>   
> ROFLMAO! Doesn't take long! Why is it that liberals almost always resort to 
> calling people that they disagree with a racist, bigot, homophobe? The 
> Democrat's Holy Trinity! Your article fails to mention that the reason 
> "Matthew Shepard" was targeted by these guys was because he was gay. Must not 
> have been an important part of the equation for you. Maybe that wouldn't be 
> an important part either, if it were the case with why Martin attacked 
> Zimmerman. I guess being a black teen cancels out homophobia and being 
> white-Hispanic cancels out being Hispanic. What we have here is a conflict of 
> interests. Who gets the most empathy?
> 
> From: Emily Reyn 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
> 
>   
> Yep, I 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> And the other bottom line?  George is going to have to live with this the 
> rest of his life.  Let us hope he takes his actions to heart and changes his 
> MO.  
> 

One can hope but I doubt George is going to learn anything new.

> 
> 
>  From: Emily Reyn 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
>  
> 
> 
>   
> I don't watch much TV these days - so I missed all the commentary.  But, 
> what happened to Matthew Shepard was not even in the same ballpark as 
> "getting the snot beat out of you", which is a simple point, although there 
> is a larger argument to be made re: what you were/are doing ignorantly or 
> unconsciously, IMHO, that has nothing to do with anything you've said.  But, 
> suffice it to say, you did a disservice to Matthew  by trivializing and 
> using his situation as an analogy for your opinion.  You have no idea what 
> the reality was - nobody does - and whatever words/trash talk the girlfriend 
> has offered up and all the variations on scenarios offered up to keep TV 
> commentators in employment is meaningless as well.  The bottom line is he 
> didn't deserve to die by gunshot by Zimmerman.  Period.  
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Mike Dixon 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
>  
> 
> 
>   
> The "Matthew Shepard treatment" refers to getting the snot beat of you 
> because your *gay*, by a bigot ,nothing more ,nothing less and that *appears* 
> to be what Martin was up to, according to his friend that he was on the phone 
> with at the time, and testified  to on behalf of the prosecution and said on 
> Pierce Morgan's CNN program. The problem is, what part of Trayvon's behavior 
> is defensible? The part that thought he was beating up a gay man stalking him 
> or the part that thought he was beating up a white man that was *profiling* 
> him. Empathy for a tragic loss of life is one thing but ignoring the facts is 
> quite another and there was absolutely no justification for Trayvon's attack 
> on Zimmerman. By the way, had you watched Anderson Cooper's interview with 
> one of the jurors just before Pierce Morgan's program, you would have learned 
> that one reason Zimmerman was suspicious of Trayvon was not simply because 
> Trayvon was black,walking slowly in the rain,
>  wearing a hoodie but that he was cutting through yards, close to houses and 
> looking in windows as he walked by. This would be suspicious activity to 
> anybody, epically if there had been as many burglaries as had been reported 
> in that neighborhood.   
> From: Emily Reyn 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
>  
>   
> DuhI know why he was targeted.  My point was that your stating that 
> "Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment" was 
> completely ridiculous - case in point - I posted the treatment Mr. Shepard 
> got and called you out on using such a ridiculous analogy.  One that seemed 
> to me to stem from complete ignorance.  That's all.  All that other stuff 
> you say is gibberish.   
> 
> From: Mike Dixon 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
>  
>   
> ROFLMAO! Doesn't take long! Why is it that liberals almost always resort to 
> calling people that they disagree with a racist, bigot, homophobe? The 
> Democrat's Holy Trinity! Your article fails to mention that the reason 
> "Matthew Shepard" was targeted by these guys was because he was gay. Must not 
> have been an important part of the equation for you. Maybe that wouldn't be 
> an important part either, if it were the case with why Martin attacked 
> Zimmerman. I guess being a black teen cancels out homophobia and being 
> white-Hispanic cancels out being Hispanic. What we have here is a conflict of 
> interests. Who gets the most empathy?
> 
> From: Emily Reyn 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
>  
>   
> Yep, I like this.  Common sense.  
> 
> Mike, you done gone off the deep end on this and you misspelled his name.  
> "Matthew Shepard" was his name.  You sound both racist and homophobic 
> yourself.     
> 
> On the night of October 6â€"7, 1998, Shepard met Aaron McKinney and Russell 
> Henderson for the first time at the Fireside Lounge in Laramie, 
> Wyoming.[7][8] It was decided that McKinney and Henderson would give Shepard 
> a ride home.[9] McKinney and Henderson subsequently dro

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> The "Matthew Shepard treatment" refers to getting the snot beat of you 
> because your *gay*, by a bigot ,nothing more ,nothing less and that *appears* 
> to be what Martin was up to, according to his friend that he was on the phone 
> with at the time, and testified  to on behalf of the prosecution and said on 
> Pierce Morgan's CNN program. The problem is, what part of Trayvon's behavior 
> is defensible? The part that thought he was beating up a gay man stalking him 
> or the part that thought he was beating up a white man that was *profiling* 
> him. Empathy for a tragic loss of life is one thing but ignoring the facts is 
> quite another and there was absolutely no justification for Trayvon's attack 
> on Zimmerman. By the way, had you watched Anderson Cooper's interview with 
> one of the jurors just before Pierce Morgan's program, you would have learned 
> that one reason Zimmerman was suspicious of Trayvon was not simply because 
> Trayvon was black,walking slowly in the rain,
>  wearing a hoodie but that he was cutting through yards, close to houses and 
> looking in windows as he walked by. This would be suspicious activity to 
> anybody, epically if there had been as many burglaries as had been reported 
> in that neighborhood.   
> 

Matthew Shepard was profiled and murdered by homophobes because he was gay. 
There the notion that Trayvon was a homophobe profiling Zimmerman because he 
thought he was gay is ridiculous.  Bottom line, Zimmerman profiled and followed 
Trayvon because he was black. If Zimmerman hadn't followed Trayvon and didn't 
have a gun, Trayvon Martin wouldn't be dead. 

Don't be so sure you know what happened, Mike. Especially if you choose to 
believe everything Zimmerman says. Obviously he has good reason to lie. There 
are conflicting stories from witnesses that call Zimmerman's account of into 
question. We are not even certain who was screaming on the phone. 
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/02/us/the-events-leading-to-the-shooting-of-trayvon-martin.html?_r=0

> 
>  From: Emily Reyn 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
>   
>    
>  
> DuhI know why he was targeted.  My point was that your stating that 
> "Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment" was 
> completely ridiculous - case in point - I posted the treatment Mr. Shepard 
> got and called you out on using such a ridiculous analogy.  One that seemed 
> to me to stem from complete ignorance.  That's all.  All that other stuff 
> you say is gibberish.   
>  
> 
> 
>  From: Mike Dixon 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
>   
>   
> ROFLMAO! Doesn't take long! Why is it that liberals almost always resort to 
> calling people that they disagree with a racist, bigot, homophobe? The 
> Democrat's Holy Trinity! Your article fails to mention that the reason 
> "Matthew Shepard" was targeted by these guys was because he was gay. Must not 
> have been an important part of the equation for you. Maybe that wouldn't be 
> an important part either, if it were the case with why Martin attacked 
> Zimmerman. I guess being a black teen cancels out homophobia and being 
> white-Hispanic cancels out being Hispanic. What we have here is a conflict of 
> interests. Who gets the most empathy?
>  
> 
> 
>  From: Emily Reyn 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
>   
>   
> Yep, I like this.  Common sense.  
> 
> Mike, you done gone off the deep end on this and you misspelled his name.  
> "Matthew Shepard" was his name.  You sound both racist and homophobic 
> yourself.     
> 
> On the night of October 6â€"7, 1998, Shepard met Aaron McKinney and Russell 
> Henderson for the first time at the Fireside Lounge in Laramie, 
> Wyoming.[7][8] It was decided that McKinney and Henderson would give Shepard 
> a ride home.[9] McKinney and Henderson subsequently drove the car to a 
> remote, rural area and proceeded to rob, pistol-whip, and torture Shepard, 
> tying him to a fence and leaving him to die. According to their court 
> testimony, McKinney and Henderson also discovered his address and intended to 
> steal from his home. Still tied to the fence, Shepard, who was still alive 
> but in a coma, was discovered 18 hours later by Aaron Kreifels, a cyclist who 
> initially mistook Shepard for a scarecrow.[10] 
> Shepard had suffered fractures to the back of his head and in front of his 
> right ear. He experienced severe brainstem damage, which affected his body's 
> ability to regu

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Emily Reyn]

And the other bottom line?  George is going to have to live with this the rest 
of his life.  Let us hope he takes his actions to heart and changes his MO.  



 From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 


  
I don't watch much TV these days - so I missed all the commentary.  But, what 
happened to Matthew Shepard was not even in the same ballpark as "getting the 
snot beat out of you", which is a simple point, although there is a larger 
argument to be made re: what you were/are doing ignorantly or unconsciously, 
IMHO, that has nothing to do with anything you've said.  But, suffice it to 
say, you did a disservice to Matthew  by trivializing and using his situation 
as an analogy for your opinion.  You have no idea what the reality was - nobody 
does - and whatever words/trash talk the girlfriend has offered up and all the 
variations on scenarios offered up to keep TV commentators in employment is 
meaningless as well.  The bottom line is he didn't deserve to die by gunshot by 
Zimmerman.  Period.  



 From: Mike Dixon 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 


  
The "Matthew Shepard treatment" refers to getting the snot beat of you because 
your *gay*, by a bigot ,nothing more ,nothing less and that *appears* to be 
what Martin was up to, according to his friend that he was on the phone with at 
the time, and testified  to on behalf of the prosecution and said on Pierce 
Morgan's CNN program. The problem is, what part of Trayvon's behavior is 
defensible? The part that thought he was beating up a gay man stalking him or 
the part that thought he was beating up a white man that was *profiling* him. 
Empathy for a tragic loss of life is one thing but ignoring the facts is quite 
another and there was absolutely no justification for Trayvon's attack on 
Zimmerman. By the way, had you watched Anderson Cooper's interview with one of 
the jurors just before Pierce Morgan's program, you would have learned that one 
reason Zimmerman was suspicious of Trayvon was not simply because Trayvon was 
black,walking slowly in the rain,
 wearing a hoodie but that he was cutting through yards, close to houses and 
looking in windows as he walked by. This would be suspicious activity to 
anybody, epically if there had been as many burglaries as had been reported in 
that neighborhood.   
From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 
  
DuhI know why he was targeted.  My point was that your stating that 
"Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment" was 
completely ridiculous - case in point - I posted the treatment Mr. Shepard got 
and called you out on using such a ridiculous analogy.  One that seemed to me 
to stem from complete ignorance.  That's all.  All that other stuff you say is 
gibberish.   

From: Mike Dixon 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 
  
ROFLMAO! Doesn't take long! Why is it that liberals almost always resort to 
calling people that they disagree with a racist, bigot, homophobe? The 
Democrat's Holy Trinity! Your article fails to mention that the reason "Matthew 
Shepard" was targeted by these guys was because he was gay. Must not have been 
an important part of the equation for you. Maybe that wouldn't be an important 
part either, if it were the case with why Martin attacked Zimmerman. I guess 
being a black teen cancels out homophobia and being white-Hispanic cancels out 
being Hispanic. What we have here is a conflict of interests. Who gets the most 
empathy?

From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 
  
Yep, I like this.  Common sense.  

Mike, you done gone off the deep end on this and you misspelled his name.  
"Matthew Shepard" was his name.  You sound both racist and homophobic yourself. 
    

On the night of October 6–7, 1998, Shepard met Aaron McKinney and Russell 
Henderson for the first time at the Fireside Lounge in Laramie, Wyoming.[7][8] 
It was decided that McKinney and Henderson would give Shepard a ride home.[9] 
McKinney and Henderson subsequently drove the car to a remote, rural area and 
proceeded to rob, pistol-whip, and torture Shepard, tying him to a fence and 
leaving him to die. According to their court testimony, McKinney and Henderson 
also discovered his address and intended to steal from his home. Still tied to 
the fence, Shepard, who was still alive but in a coma, was discovered 18 hours 
late

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Emily Reyn]

I don't watch much TV these days - so I missed all the commentary.  But, what 
happened to Matthew Shepard was not even in the same ballpark as "getting the 
snot beat out of you", which is a simple point, although there is a larger 
argument to be made re: what you were/are doing ignorantly or unconsciously, 
IMHO, that has nothing to do with anything you've said.  But, suffice it to 
say, you did a disservice to Matthew  by trivializing and using his situation 
as an analogy for your opinion.  You have no idea what the reality was - nobody 
does - and whatever words/trash talk the girlfriend has offered up and all the 
variations on scenarios offered up to keep TV commentators in employment is 
meaningless as well.  The bottom line is he didn't deserve to die by gunshot by 
Zimmerman.  Period.  



 From: Mike Dixon 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 


  
The "Matthew Shepard treatment" refers to getting the snot beat of you because 
your *gay*, by a bigot ,nothing more ,nothing less and that *appears* to be 
what Martin was up to, according to his friend that he was on the phone with at 
the time, and testified  to on behalf of the prosecution and said on Pierce 
Morgan's CNN program. The problem is, what part of Trayvon's behavior is 
defensible? The part that thought he was beating up a gay man stalking him or 
the part that thought he was beating up a white man that was *profiling* him. 
Empathy for a tragic loss of life is one thing but ignoring the facts is quite 
another and there was absolutely no justification for Trayvon's attack on 
Zimmerman. By the way, had you watched Anderson Cooper's interview with one of 
the jurors just before Pierce Morgan's program, you would have learned that one 
reason Zimmerman was suspicious of Trayvon was not simply because Trayvon was 
black,walking slowly in the rain,
 wearing a hoodie but that he was cutting through yards, close to houses and 
looking in windows as he walked by. This would be suspicious activity to 
anybody, epically if there had been as many burglaries as had been reported in 
that neighborhood.   
From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 
  
DuhI know why he was targeted.  My point was that your stating that 
"Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment" was 
completely ridiculous - case in point - I posted the treatment Mr. Shepard got 
and called you out on using such a ridiculous analogy.  One that seemed to me 
to stem from complete ignorance.  That's all.  All that other stuff you say is 
gibberish.   

From: Mike Dixon 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 
  
ROFLMAO! Doesn't take long! Why is it that liberals almost always resort to 
calling people that they disagree with a racist, bigot, homophobe? The 
Democrat's Holy Trinity! Your article fails to mention that the reason "Matthew 
Shepard" was targeted by these guys was because he was gay. Must not have been 
an important part of the equation for you. Maybe that wouldn't be an important 
part either, if it were the case with why Martin attacked Zimmerman. I guess 
being a black teen cancels out homophobia and being white-Hispanic cancels out 
being Hispanic. What we have here is a conflict of interests. Who gets the most 
empathy?

From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 
  
Yep, I like this.  Common sense.  

Mike, you done gone off the deep end on this and you misspelled his name.  
"Matthew Shepard" was his name.  You sound both racist and homophobic yourself. 
    

On the night of October 6–7, 1998, Shepard met Aaron McKinney and Russell 
Henderson for the first time at the Fireside Lounge in Laramie, Wyoming.[7][8] 
It was decided that McKinney and Henderson would give Shepard a ride home.[9] 
McKinney and Henderson subsequently drove the car to a remote, rural area and 
proceeded to rob, pistol-whip, and torture Shepard, tying him to a fence and 
leaving him to die. According to their court testimony, McKinney and Henderson 
also discovered his address and intended to steal from his home. Still tied to 
the fence, Shepard, who was still alive but in a coma, was discovered 18 hours 
later by Aaron Kreifels, a cyclist who initially mistook Shepard for a 
scarecrow.[10]
Shepard had suffered fractures to the back of his head and in front of his 
right ear. He experienced severe brainstem damage, which affected his body's 
ability to regulate heart rate, body temperature, and other vital functions. 
There were also about a dozen small lacerations arou

[FairfieldLife] Re: LB Shriver's birth data

[srijau]

Looks like someone who could have survived with gems/remedies especially if 
they had been used prior to the weak dasha/bhuktis.
Jupiter and Saturn are not very strong in the chart due to weakness of their 
dispositors. The first house ruler is so very weak in degrees it makes the 
karma of the body very vulnerable.
 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "at_man_and_brahman@..." 
 wrote:
>
> Some of you might be interested in looking at LB's Jyotish chart. According 
> to him in the Church of Ed video, he was born at 5:30 am. He was delivered in 
> Fairfield, 20 November 1946. He has a raja yoga karaka Shani in the 10th 
> house, aspecting Guru alone in the 1st house. Exalted Rahu and Ketu, and five 
> grahas in the 2nd house.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Mike Dixon]

The "Matthew Shepard treatment" refers to getting the snot beat of you because 
your *gay*, by a bigot ,nothing more ,nothing less and that *appears* to be 
what Martin was up to, according to his friend that he was on the phone with at 
the time, and testified  to on behalf of the prosecution and said on Pierce 
Morgan's CNN program. The problem is, what part of Trayvon's behavior is 
defensible? The part that thought he was beating up a gay man stalking him or 
the part that thought he was beating up a white man that was *profiling* him. 
Empathy for a tragic loss of life is one thing but ignoring the facts is quite 
another and there was absolutely no justification for Trayvon's attack on 
Zimmerman. By the way, had you watched Anderson Cooper's interview with one of 
the jurors just before Pierce Morgan's program, you would have learned that one 
reason Zimmerman was suspicious of Trayvon was not simply because Trayvon was 
black,walking slowly in the rain,
 wearing a hoodie but that he was cutting through yards, close to houses and 
looking in windows as he walked by. This would be suspicious activity to 
anybody, epically if there had been as many burglaries as had been reported in 
that neighborhood.   


 From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
  
   
 
DuhI know why he was targeted.  My point was that your stating that 
"Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment" was 
completely ridiculous - case in point - I posted the treatment Mr. Shepard got 
and called you out on using such a ridiculous analogy.  One that seemed to me 
to stem from complete ignorance.  That's all.  All that other stuff you say is 
gibberish.   
 


 From: Mike Dixon 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
  
  
ROFLMAO! Doesn't take long! Why is it that liberals almost always resort to 
calling people that they disagree with a racist, bigot, homophobe? The 
Democrat's Holy Trinity! Your article fails to mention that the reason "Matthew 
Shepard" was targeted by these guys was because he was gay. Must not have been 
an important part of the equation for you. Maybe that wouldn't be an important 
part either, if it were the case with why Martin attacked Zimmerman. I guess 
being a black teen cancels out homophobia and being white-Hispanic cancels out 
being Hispanic. What we have here is a conflict of interests. Who gets the most 
empathy?
 


 From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
  
  
Yep, I like this.  Common sense.  

Mike, you done gone off the deep end on this and you misspelled his name.  
"Matthew Shepard" was his name.  You sound both racist and homophobic yourself. 
    

On the night of October 6–7, 1998, Shepard met Aaron McKinney and Russell 
Henderson for the first time at the Fireside Lounge in Laramie, Wyoming.[7][8] 
It was decided that McKinney and Henderson would give Shepard a ride home.[9] 
McKinney and Henderson subsequently drove the car to a remote, rural area and 
proceeded to rob, pistol-whip, and torture Shepard, tying him to a fence and 
leaving him to die. According to their court testimony, McKinney and Henderson 
also discovered his address and intended to steal from his home. Still tied to 
the fence, Shepard, who was still alive but in a coma, was discovered 18 hours 
later by Aaron Kreifels, a cyclist who initially mistook Shepard for a 
scarecrow.[10] 
Shepard had suffered fractures to the back of his head and in front of his 
right ear. He experienced severe brainstem damage, which affected his body's 
ability to regulate heart rate, body temperature, and other vital functions. 
There were also about a dozen small lacerations around his head, face, and 
neck. His injuries were deemed too severe for doctors to operate. Shepard never 
regained consciousness and remained on full life support. While he lay in 
intensive care, candlelight vigils were held by the people of Laramie.[11]

 


 From: Duveyoung 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:26 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
  
  
Cenk nails this issue. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtcveaMUJSI&list=SPTpcK80irdQidhuTjXxQZNThuoGPeWjT0&feature=player_detailpage
 --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
wrote: 
> 
> Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
> see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
> Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . She 
> said that

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to improve TM practice - a heretic's guide

[sparaig]

It is always possible that MMY didn't answer certain questions because he 
didn't know the answers. It is also possible that MMY didn't answer certain 
questions because he wanted TMers, including TM teachers, to discover the 
answer for themselves in the context of their own culture and religion.

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> I would suggest looking up Muktananda online.  You can find both sites 
> pro and con.  Back in the late 70s a number of TMers including teachers 
> read his "conversations" books because he answered questions that MMY 
> wouldn't.
> 
> There are a number of gurus accused of sexual impropriety including 
> MMY.  The problem of deciding to be a "holy man" and then later deciding 
> that was a mistake.  Better to be a tantric which is mainly a 
> householder path.
> 
> I don't keep track of shaktipat groups.  If you go through the FFL 
> archives you'll find folks discussing other groups.
> 
> People in the arts tend to have heightened spiritual experiences. The 
> arts culture it.  There was even news last week of a study that showed 
> group singing was as good as practicing yoga.
> 
> On 07/16/2013 05:04 PM, Seraphita wrote:
> > Thanks yet again. Taking on board what you say about shaktipat and
> > book-learning, which of Muktananda's books would you recommend if I just
> > wanted to learn about the man and his trajectory? And, with apologies
> > for lowering the tone of the conversation, what did you make of the
> > accusations of sexual impropriety against "Mucky"? As he seems to be
> > guilty as charged (no?) does that invalidate what he had to teach?
> > Also, do you know of any shaktipat groups in the UK that could be worth
> > investigating? Does your group have centres (centers) over here?
> > As regards your personal history, did you ever try psychedelics back in
> > the day; I'm wondering if they might have been a cause of some of your
> > experiences. (If you don't want to answer this bit, that's fine too!)
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >> On 07/16/2013 04:15 PM, Seraphita wrote:
> >>> Thanks again. Re "Beej mantras are commonly used in astrology and
> >>> ayurveda . . . tells the person to repeat the mantra either in a
> > short
> >>> meditation or sometimes throughout the day (like a walking mantra)."
> >>> Repeating the mantra through the day (like the Hare Krishna crowd)
> > is
> >>> very different from effortless TM. The point is kinda to forget the
> >>> mantra.
> >> There is the TM walking mantra for kids.  And in TM the mantra "is
> > just
> >> a faint idea."  FYI, I taught TM too.
> >>
> >>> Re: "When longer mantras are given as a public "first technique"
> > then
> >>> the teacher usually gives shaktipat to jump-start them. Muktananda's
> >>> organization teaches this way. But the guru has to wait until his
> >>> teachers have developed enough shakti to give shakipat to teach
> > these. I
> >>> was also taught by my tantra guru to teach meditation this way." You
> >>> sound like the guy I need to meet! What I've read about Muktananda's
> >>> shaktipat trickery has always intrigued me - he was able to produce
> >>> serious shifts in his students awareness - shifts that are difficult
> > to
> >>> explain. Do you think it comes down to hypnotic suggestion? - which
> > is
> >>> what charismatic church leaders seem to practise (perhaps
> >>> unconsciously). Or do you reckon there's something more going on
> > here?
> >> It is the transference of energy or shakti.  It isn't hypnosis.
> > Tantrics
> >> are supposed to get so powerful and good at it that they can
> > temporarily
> >> animate a dead corpse in a cremation ground.
> >>> I
> >>> was recently looking for a (basic, non-technical) book on shaktipat
> > that
> >>> might give me some insight: can you recommend any titles (maybe one
> > of
> >>> Muktananda's as I've not read any of his books)?
> >> It can't be learned from a book.  It is really simple and there have
> >> been others on FFL who have taken some of the shaktipat courses that
> >> other Indian teachers have offered.  My teacher limited me to giving
> > it
> >> only 7 times per day when starting out.   But he also only allowed me
> > to
> >> do the technique after 5 years of instruction.
> >>> Re " . . . With a little zip from performing a puja before each
> > teaching
> >>> session. But a lot of people might have just picked the beej mantra
> > up
> >>> out of book and it would have worked after a while." Yes, there are
> > some
> >>> on-line TM-type instructors that have appeared recently. I remember
> > from
> >>> my own TM initiation that I felt the dive within right from the
> > get-go.
> >>> In fact, it took me completely by surprise. Those who've tried
> > learning
> >>> from a book or on-line do report benefits so I hope they're getting
> > the
> >>> same experiences but I wonder if, by missing out on that
> > face-to-face
> >>> encounter, something gets lost by the mediati

[FairfieldLife] Robin...er... Donald in Germany

[card]

Wiki:

Germany[edit]
Donald Duck is very popular in Germany, where Donald themed comics sell an 
average of 250,000 copies each week, mostly published in the kids' weekly Micky 
Maus and the monthly Donald Duck Special (for adults).[23] The Wall Street 
Journal called Donald Duck "The Jerry Lewis of Germany", a reference to 
American star Jerry Lewis' popularity in France.[23] Donald's dialogue in 
German comics tends to be more sophisticated and philosophical, he "quotes from 
German literature, speaks in grammatically complex sentences and is prone to 
philosophical musings, while the stories often take a more political tone than 
their American counterparts",[23] features especially associated with Erika 
Fuchs's popular German translations of the comics created by The Good Duck 
Artist Carl Barks. Christian Pfeiler – former president of D.O.N.A.L.D., a 
German acronym which stands for "German Organization for Non-commercial 
Followers of Pure Donaldism" – says Donald is popular in Germany because 
"almost everyone can identify with him. He has strengths and weaknesses; he 
lacks polish but is also very cultured and well-read."[23] It is through this 
everyman persona that Donald is able to voice philosophical truths about German 
society that appeal to both children and adults.[23] Donald's writers and 
illustrators Carl Barks, Don Rosa and Ub Iwerks are well known in Germany, and 
have their own fan clubs.

[FairfieldLife] LB Shriver's birth data

[at_man_and_brah...@sbcglobal.net]

Some of you might be interested in looking at LB's Jyotish chart. According to 
him in the Church of Ed video, he was born at 5:30 am. He was delivered in 
Fairfield, 20 November 1946. He has a raja yoga karaka Shani in the 10th house, 
aspecting Guru alone in the 1st house. Exalted Rahu and Ketu, and five grahas 
in the 2nd house.

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to improve TM practice - a heretic's guide

[card]

BG, from memory, sorry for possible mistakes:

(kRSNa:) jahi *shatruM*, mahaabaaho (Arjuna), *kaama-ruupaM* duraasadam!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita"  wrote:
>
> Yes, I'll pick up one of Muktananda's titles - been meaning to do so for
> a while.
> Re tantric reference: I always think of TM as being tantric, at least in
> spirit. So many religious traditions take a dim view of desire (it's
> always the ascetics and monks which get star billing) but tantra always
> claims that desire can be a royal road to enlightenment. That can
> include the whole sex 'n' drugs thing: wonder how many people get stuck
> at that level? Maharishi's basic idea that the mind naturally gravitates
> towards the source of bliss - his "feeding the monkey" image - would
> have struck a chord with tantrics no?
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > I would suggest looking up Muktananda online.  You can find both sites
> > pro and con.  Back in the late 70s a number of TMers including
> teachers
> > read his "conversations" books because he answered questions that MMY
> > wouldn't.
> >
> > There are a number of gurus accused of sexual impropriety including
> > MMY.  The problem of deciding to be a "holy man" and then later
> deciding
> > that was a mistake.  Better to be a tantric which is mainly a
> > householder path.
> >
> > I don't keep track of shaktipat groups.  If you go through the FFL
> > archives you'll find folks discussing other groups.
> >
> > People in the arts tend to have heightened spiritual experiences. The
> > arts culture it.  There was even news last week of a study that showed
> > group singing was as good as practicing yoga.
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Elizabeth Warren School Media Whores on Economic Regulation

[Bhairitu]

Wow CNBC has a bunch of dunderheads for anchors.  Watch Senator 
Elizabeth Warren school them on economic regulation 101.  I wonder how 
many perks the CNBC pressitutes get from big banking?  Forget Hillary, 
Warren should be our first woman president.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/17/elizabeth-warren-cnbc-anchors_n_3610893.html

[FairfieldLife] The effect of AoE on people's looks, part 1

[card]

Oprah Winfrey, 1996:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT3QpVjMvCU

0:43!

[FairfieldLife] Re: "I create my reality" Yeah, right...

[sparaig]

TM's long-term effects are radically different than those from any published 
research on mindfulness or samatha or other mantra meditation studies.

Specifically, the simple, beginning EEG pattern of relaxed alpha that shows up 
in any short-term eyes-closed meditation study starts to change as time goes on 
in OTHER forms of meditation, but not with TM.

Really long-term (40-50 year) TMers show the same relaxed alpha EEG of really 
short term TMers, though perhaps a bit more enhanced.

Really long-term meditators using other practices, show less and less of the 
Alpha EEG signature and more and more of other EEG frequencies, both during and 
outside of meditation, the longer you practice them.

There are only a few brain imaging studies on TM, but the same situation 
appears to hold:

TMers show stronger activity in the parts of the brain having to do with "sense 
of self."

Brain imaging on practitioners of other meditation techniques show a reduction 
in the activity of the brain having to do with "sense of self."

The physiological correlates of enlightenment, TM-style, still retains some 
"sense of self," even in long-term practitioners. The physiological correlates 
of long-term practice of other forms of meditation, fits in perfectly with 
Buddhist theories that say that "self" doesn't exist.

The "I" doesn't expand to infinity via the long-term practice of most forms of 
meditation: it is simply eliminated.


L



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> LOL! "TM-style englightenment"? That's one for the books. As 
> differentiated from all other moksha? Come now, the TM technique is 
> nothing more than common beej aksharas long used in vedic astrology and 
> ayurveda as well as probably a few obscure yoga traditions. The advanced 
> technique has more in common with mantras given to the masses (as 
> opposed to disciples of a tradition).
> 
> Also any real study might want to differentiate between long term 
> meditators who never got the advanced technique and those that did. That 
> wasn't mentioned in the study. Basically you have researches who 
> probably don't know much about yoga at all: blind men describing an 
> elephant.
> 
> The topic was enlightenment in general and not "TM-style enlightenment" 
> of which there is no such thing. Enlightenment is enlightenment.
> 
> On 07/17/2013 01:49 PM, sparaig wrote:
> > The topic is TM-style enlightenment, and while you have a point about 
> > parroting, the first report of enlightened TMers was from a psychologist 
> > reporting about 6 of his patients, TMers all, who were complaining of a 
> > permanent depersonalization with no issues other than intellectual 
> > confusion as to why their "I" was completely uninvolved with thinking, 
> > feeling, acting, remembering, etc.
> >
> > The report prompted the DMS-IV to add a spiritual/religious exception to 
> > the diagnosis of depersonalization disorder.
> >
> > The fact that the patients had forgotten, or didn't make the connection, 
> > between their state and the CC state in TM theory, suggests that it is a 
> > natural progression due to TM practice, rather than expectations.
> >
> > A more recent study looked at non-TMers who happened to be world 
> > champion/national champion athletes (compete at the national level and 
> > consistently score in teh top 10) vs non-champion athletes at the same 
> > level (compete in the same competitions but never break the 50% mark) and 
> > found that the champions tended to score midway between teh short-term 
> > TMers and the enlightened TMers on both their EEG and their descriptions of 
> > self.
> >
> > This also supports the theory that the TM-style enlightenment is a natural 
> > thing, leading to similar descriptions of the state, regardless of your 
> > spiritual background (none of the athletes did TM or other meditation 
> > techniques).
> >
> > L
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >> And where's the group that practiced other meditation programs? Also TM
> >> people start sounding like parrots of stuff they learned from SCI,
> >> rounding courses, etc. They can't seem to put their experiences in their
> >> own words.
> >>
> >> On 07/16/2013 11:39 PM, sparaig wrote:
> >>> People respond to the interview question "Describe your self," in 
> >>> different ways, depending on the physiological state of their nervous 
> >>> system.
> >>>
> >>> Researchers on the effects of Transcendental Meditation asked for people 
> >>> who had been practicing TM who were reporting a certain kind of 
> >>> experience -- ["pure 
> >>> consciousness"](http://www.psychosomaticmedicine.org/content/44/2/133.full.pdf)
> >>>  -- as a permanent trait outside of meditation practice, to respond to 
> >>> that question, and correlated their answers with physiological measures.
> >>>
> >>> They did the same with 2 other groups of people, people who had never 
> >>> learned TM but wanted to, and people who had been practicing TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "I create my reality" Yeah, right...

[Bhairitu]

LOL! "TM-style englightenment"? That's one for the books. As 
differentiated from all other moksha? Come now, the TM technique is 
nothing more than common beej aksharas long used in vedic astrology and 
ayurveda as well as probably a few obscure yoga traditions. The advanced 
technique has more in common with mantras given to the masses (as 
opposed to disciples of a tradition).

Also any real study might want to differentiate between long term 
meditators who never got the advanced technique and those that did. That 
wasn't mentioned in the study. Basically you have researches who 
probably don't know much about yoga at all: blind men describing an 
elephant.

The topic was enlightenment in general and not "TM-style enlightenment" 
of which there is no such thing. Enlightenment is enlightenment.

On 07/17/2013 01:49 PM, sparaig wrote:
> The topic is TM-style enlightenment, and while you have a point about 
> parroting, the first report of enlightened TMers was from a psychologist 
> reporting about 6 of his patients, TMers all, who were complaining of a 
> permanent depersonalization with no issues other than intellectual confusion 
> as to why their "I" was completely uninvolved with thinking, feeling, acting, 
> remembering, etc.
>
> The report prompted the DMS-IV to add a spiritual/religious exception to the 
> diagnosis of depersonalization disorder.
>
> The fact that the patients had forgotten, or didn't make the connection, 
> between their state and the CC state in TM theory, suggests that it is a 
> natural progression due to TM practice, rather than expectations.
>
> A more recent study looked at non-TMers who happened to be world 
> champion/national champion athletes (compete at the national level and 
> consistently score in teh top 10) vs non-champion athletes at the same level 
> (compete in the same competitions but never break the 50% mark) and found 
> that the champions tended to score midway between teh short-term TMers and 
> the enlightened TMers on both their EEG and their descriptions of self.
>
> This also supports the theory that the TM-style enlightenment is a natural 
> thing, leading to similar descriptions of the state, regardless of your 
> spiritual background (none of the athletes did TM or other meditation 
> techniques).
>
> L
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> And where's the group that practiced other meditation programs? Also TM
>> people start sounding like parrots of stuff they learned from SCI,
>> rounding courses, etc. They can't seem to put their experiences in their
>> own words.
>>
>> On 07/16/2013 11:39 PM, sparaig wrote:
>>> People respond to the interview question "Describe your self," in different 
>>> ways, depending on the physiological state of their nervous system.
>>>
>>> Researchers on the effects of Transcendental Meditation asked for people 
>>> who had been practicing TM who were reporting a certain kind of experience 
>>> -- ["pure 
>>> consciousness"](http://www.psychosomaticmedicine.org/content/44/2/133.full.pdf)
>>>  -- as a permanent trait outside of meditation practice, to respond to that 
>>> question, and correlated their answers with physiological measures.
>>>
>>> They did the same with 2 other groups of people, people who had never 
>>> learned TM but wanted to, and people who had been practicing TM for several 
>>> years, but didn't report permanent pure consciousness outside of meditation 
>>> or very frequently during.
>>>
>>> Researchers than correlated the answers to the question with the 
>>> physiological measures, and established a "Brain Integration Scale," with 
>>> the 
>>> [psychological](http://www.totalbrain.ch/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/eeg-of-enlightenment.pdf)
>>>   and 
>>> [physiological](http://www.totalbrain.ch/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/brain-integration-progress-report.pdf)
>>>   measurements of the first group clustered to the right, and the 
>>> psychological/physiological responses of the no-meditation group to the 
>>> left. The "non-enlightened" meditators tended to be less experienced than 
>>> the right-most group, and clustered their responses/EEG in the middle.
>>>
>>> The responses to the question were roughly in three categories, ranging 
>>> from very "object referral" to very abstract "self referral":
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>> **Non-TM Group: Self is identified with thoughts, feelings, and actions**
>>>
>>> N1: I guess I'm open to new experiences, and I tend to appreciate those 
>>> things that are different
>>>
>>> N2: I kind of like to forge my own way
>>>
>>> N3: I am open to change and new ideas. . . I'm an adventuress. I like to go 
>>> out. . .and experiment with new ideas
>>>
>>> N4: I tend to appreciate those things that are different, even in my style 
>>> of dress. I like something usually because its odd or strange or something 
>>> that other people absolutely wouldnÕt wear
>>>
>>> N5: I'm happy, caring, helpful, I like people who like to help other 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Michael Jackson]

Don't they all carry in Ireland?





 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:09 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> When you decide to immigrate to the US Sal, here is the town for you.
> 
> http://abcnews.go.com/US/georgia-towns-law-gun/story?id=18863226#.Uebc7cpt7BA
> 

Sounds like paradise. This might work in a small town where
everyone knows everyone else, trouble is it might get taken
that it's a good strategy and rolled out elsewhere (we know
how illogical people are with their post hoc extrapolations)

Another part of me wants to know what would happen in LA or
London if we all *had* to carry weapons. For instance, would
I be more or less likely to get a seat on the train?

> 
> 
> 
>  From: salyavin808 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:58 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > Salyvain, you can't be serious. Had Trayvon stopped to think Zimmerman 
> > might be armed, I bet he wouldn't have attacked him.
> 
> It's possible, let's settle it by asking him. Oh wait
> 
> Had Zimmerman not been armed, he could have been the one buried.
> 
> Which underlines my original point about just what is so fucked
> up about your country. Everyone expects everyone else to be carrying
> a gun, it must make the place one tense place to live.
> 
> We don't have that in civilised countries, a gun is the last thing
> I expect to see. But if I was confronting someone and I had a gun 
> I'd be more confident no? Which makes someone more likely to be 
> killed during any confrontation I would say.
> 
>  Rachel Jeantel, this is looking more like a hate crime that back fired. 
> Martin and Jeantel thought Zimmerman was a homosexual rapist stalking him and 
> she told him to run, run, run, get away from him. But he didn't, he circled 
> back and confronted Zimmerman and attacked him. According to Ravioli this is 
> justifiable because of black history.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: salyavin808 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:07 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > Has *anyone* in America stopped to ponder whether the problem here
> > is easy availability of guns rather than race or whatever problems?
> > 
> > Seems likely that if you couldn't get hold of 9mm pistols at the
> > corner shop this situation might have amounted to a bit of arguing
> > and not much more. When everyone is scared that everyone else is
> > armed people are bound to be be a bit spikier.
> > 
> > I hear they have armed guards at primary schools now. What the fuck
> > is wrong with your country?
> > 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is 
> > > developing, see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last 
> > > night that Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the 
> > > encounter . She said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a 
> > > *rapist*, a homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was 
> > > Creeped-out by Zimmerman following him. He didn't want Zimmerman 
> > > following him to his home because his little brother was there and 
> > > might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the 
> > > Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the snot out of the 
> > > *fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 45 seconds 
> > > and then fired in self defense. In short, Trayvon's homophobia killed 
> > > him.
> > >
> >
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: "I create my reality" Yeah, right...

[sparaig]

The topic is TM-style enlightenment, and while you have a point about 
parroting, the first report of enlightened TMers was from a psychologist 
reporting about 6 of his patients, TMers all, who were complaining of a 
permanent depersonalization with no issues other than intellectual confusion as 
to why their "I" was completely uninvolved with thinking, feeling, acting, 
remembering, etc.

The report prompted the DMS-IV to add a spiritual/religious exception to the 
diagnosis of depersonalization disorder.

The fact that the patients had forgotten, or didn't make the connection, 
between their state and the CC state in TM theory, suggests that it is a 
natural progression due to TM practice, rather than expectations.

A more recent study looked at non-TMers who happened to be world 
champion/national champion athletes (compete at the national level and 
consistently score in teh top 10) vs non-champion athletes at the same level 
(compete in the same competitions but never break the 50% mark) and found that 
the champions tended to score midway between teh short-term TMers and the 
enlightened TMers on both their EEG and their descriptions of self.

This also supports the theory that the TM-style enlightenment is a natural 
thing, leading to similar descriptions of the state, regardless of your 
spiritual background (none of the athletes did TM or other meditation 
techniques).

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> And where's the group that practiced other meditation programs? Also TM 
> people start sounding like parrots of stuff they learned from SCI, 
> rounding courses, etc. They can't seem to put their experiences in their 
> own words.
> 
> On 07/16/2013 11:39 PM, sparaig wrote:
> > People respond to the interview question "Describe your self," in different 
> > ways, depending on the physiological state of their nervous system.
> >
> > Researchers on the effects of Transcendental Meditation asked for people 
> > who had been practicing TM who were reporting a certain kind of experience 
> > -- ["pure 
> > consciousness"](http://www.psychosomaticmedicine.org/content/44/2/133.full.pdf)
> >  -- as a permanent trait outside of meditation practice, to respond to that 
> > question, and correlated their answers with physiological measures.
> >
> > They did the same with 2 other groups of people, people who had never 
> > learned TM but wanted to, and people who had been practicing TM for several 
> > years, but didn't report permanent pure consciousness outside of meditation 
> > or very frequently during.
> >
> > Researchers than correlated the answers to the question with the 
> > physiological measures, and established a "Brain Integration Scale," with 
> > the 
> > [psychological](http://www.totalbrain.ch/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/eeg-of-enlightenment.pdf)
> >   and 
> > [physiological](http://www.totalbrain.ch/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/brain-integration-progress-report.pdf)
> >   measurements of the first group clustered to the right, and the 
> > psychological/physiological responses of the no-meditation group to the 
> > left. The "non-enlightened" meditators tended to be less experienced than 
> > the right-most group, and clustered their responses/EEG in the middle.
> >
> > The responses to the question were roughly in three categories, ranging 
> > from very "object referral" to very abstract "self referral":
> >
> > .
> >
> > **Non-TM Group: Self is identified with thoughts, feelings, and actions**
> >
> > N1: I guess I'm open to new experiences, and I tend to appreciate those 
> > things that are different
> >
> > N2: I kind of like to forge my own way
> >
> > N3: I am open to change and new ideas. . . I'm an adventuress. I like to go 
> > out. . .and experiment with new ideas
> >
> > N4: I tend to appreciate those things that are different, even in my style 
> > of dress. I like something usually because its odd or strange or something 
> > that other people absolutely wouldnÕt wear
> >
> > N5: I'm happy, caring, helpful, I like people who like to help other 
> > people; I hate seeing anyone in trouble
> >
> > .
> >
> > **Short-Term group: Self is the director of thoughts, feelings, and 
> > actions**
> >
> > S1: I'm my own awareness. My ability to perceive and be aware. I'm my own 
> > potential, my own power,
> >
> > S2: I'm my own capabilities; my ability to learn; my ability to do things. 
> > . . in it's essential nature��"my ability to act
> >
> > S3: There are many different levels to who I am. I'm a sister, a daughter, 
> > a friend, an athlete, a nature lover, a seeker of the truth. I'm a very 
> > spiritual person. I believe that I can do and accomplish anything that I 
> > set my mind to
> >
> > S4: I am a little bit more silent, more reserved, and thoughtful than most, 
> > with a deep desire to just succeed in all activities and at the same time 
> > to develop spiritually very quickly
> >
> > S5: Who I am is who I am inside. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Emily Reyn]

DuhI know why he was targeted.  My point was that your stating that 
"Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment" was 
completely ridiculous - case in point - I posted the treatment Mr. Shepard got 
and called you out on using such a ridiculous analogy.  One that seemed to me 
to stem from complete ignorance.  That's all.  All that other stuff you say is 
gibberish.   



 From: Mike Dixon 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 


  
ROFLMAO! Doesn't take long! Why is it that liberals almost always resort to 
calling people that they disagree with a racist, bigot, homophobe? The 
Democrat's Holy Trinity! Your article fails to mention that the reason "Matthew 
Shepard" was targeted by these guys was because he was gay. Must not have been 
an important part of the equation for you. Maybe that wouldn't be an important 
part either, if it were the case with why Martin attacked Zimmerman. I guess 
being a black teen cancels out homophobia and being white-Hispanic cancels out 
being Hispanic. What we have here is a conflict of interests. Who gets the most 
empathy?

From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 
  
Yep, I like this.  Common sense.  

Mike, you done gone off the deep end on this and you misspelled his name.  
"Matthew Shepard" was his name.  You sound both racist and homophobic yourself. 
    

On the night of October 6–7, 1998, Shepard met Aaron McKinney and Russell 
Henderson for the first time at the Fireside Lounge in Laramie, Wyoming.[7][8] 
It was decided that McKinney and Henderson would give Shepard a ride home.[9] 
McKinney and Henderson subsequently drove the car to a remote, rural area and 
proceeded to rob, pistol-whip, and torture Shepard, tying him to a fence and 
leaving him to die. According to their court testimony, McKinney and Henderson 
also discovered his address and intended to steal from his home. Still tied to 
the fence, Shepard, who was still alive but in a coma, was discovered 18 hours 
later by Aaron Kreifels, a cyclist who initially mistook Shepard for a 
scarecrow.[10]
Shepard had suffered fractures to the back of his head and in front of his 
right ear. He experienced severe brainstem damage, which affected his body's 
ability to regulate heart rate, body temperature, and other vital functions. 
There were also about a dozen small lacerations around his head, face, and 
neck. His injuries were deemed too severe for doctors to operate. Shepard never 
regained consciousness and remained on full life support. While he lay in 
intensive care, candlelight vigils were held by the people of Laramie.[11]


From: Duveyoung 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:26 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 
  
Cenk nails this issue. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtcveaMUJSI&list=SPTpcK80irdQidhuTjXxQZNThuoGPeWjT0&feature=player_detailpage
 --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
wrote: 
> 
> Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
> see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
> Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . She 
> said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a homosexual 
> rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by Zimmerman following 
> him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home because his little 
> brother was there and might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended to 
> give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the 
> snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 
> 45 seconds and then fired in self defense. In short, Trayvon's homophobia 
> killed him. 
> 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Mike Dixon]

ROFLMAO! Doesn't take long! Why is it that liberals almost always resort to 
calling people that they disagree with a racist, bigot, homophobe? The 
Democrat's Holy Trinity! Your article fails to mention that the reason "Matthew 
Shepard" was targeted by these guys was because he was gay. Must not have been 
an important part of the equation for you. Maybe that wouldn't be an important 
part either, if it were the case with why Martin attacked Zimmerman. I guess 
being a black teen cancels out homophobia and being white-Hispanic cancels out 
being Hispanic. What we have here is a conflict of interests. Who gets the most 
empathy?

 


 From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
  
   
 
Yep, I like this.  Common sense.  

Mike, you done gone off the deep end on this and you misspelled his name.  
"Matthew Shepard" was his name.  You sound both racist and homophobic yourself. 
    

On the night of October 6–7, 1998, Shepard met Aaron McKinney and Russell 
Henderson for the first time at the Fireside Lounge in Laramie, Wyoming.[7][8] 
It was decided that McKinney and Henderson would give Shepard a ride home.[9] 
McKinney and Henderson subsequently drove the car to a remote, rural area and 
proceeded to rob, pistol-whip, and torture Shepard, tying him to a fence and 
leaving him to die. According to their court testimony, McKinney and Henderson 
also discovered his address and intended to steal from his home. Still tied to 
the fence, Shepard, who was still alive but in a coma, was discovered 18 hours 
later by Aaron Kreifels, a cyclist who initially mistook Shepard for a 
scarecrow.[10] 
Shepard had suffered fractures to the back of his head and in front of his 
right ear. He experienced severe brainstem damage, which affected his body's 
ability to regulate heart rate, body temperature, and other vital functions. 
There were also about a dozen small lacerations around his head, face, and 
neck. His injuries were deemed too severe for doctors to operate. Shepard never 
regained consciousness and remained on full life support. While he lay in 
intensive care, candlelight vigils were held by the people of Laramie.[11]

 


 From: Duveyoung 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:26 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
  
  
Cenk nails this issue.   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtcveaMUJSI&list=SPTpcK80irdQidhuTjXxQZNThuoGPeWjT0&feature=player_detailpage
   --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
wrote: > > Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is 
developing, see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night 
that Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . 
She said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a 
homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by Zimmerman 
following him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home because his 
little brother was there and might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended 
to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the 
snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 45 
seconds and then fired in self defense. In short, Trayvon's
 homophobia killed him. >   
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] You guys like "scientific experiments," right?

[Bhairitu]

On 07/17/2013 06:26 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> Try this one on for size, in between pontificating about
> Trayvon Martin and how "threatening" he was. A video crew
> hires two actors to steal a bike chained to a pole along
> a busy park path, while secretly filming the whole thing.
>
> The "experiment?" Both actors are dressed alike, both are
> clearly using burglar tools to steal the bike. But one
> actor is white, and the other is black.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a-v2n62C9k

It's more of a sociological experiment than a "scientific" experiment.  
The latter term is used way too loosely on FFL.  When I walk the game 
preserve at the waterfront park where there are signs posted all over 
the place saying "no dogs" (for obvious reasons) I ask people why they 
are walking their dog there.  I also inform them that if the park police 
come patrolling through they might get a $300 ticket.  BTW, I've never 
found any black folks walking a dog there.

Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]

[Emily Reyn]

Yes, Share, but your cut and paste of my apology of yesterday had absolutely 
nothing to do with the exchange of the joke and didn't apply.  Nor, if you knew 
it was a joke, would you pull that whole ASSume thing.which also didn't 
apply to the context in any way.  Sorry, sweetheart, I'm not buying it.  What 
it was Share, was an opportunity for you to laugh at yourself, for one, but 
instead, you write a post that acts like it is trying to shame me - and I say 
that based on the structure of how you put your response together and what you 
included, not on my psychic abilities to interpret what was in your mind.  But, 
I will have a nice swim.  Thanks.  



 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
[was Re: Four for Share]
 


  
Sorry, Emily, I was joking too. Hope you have a pleasant day also. And a nice 
swim (-:





 From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
[was Re: Four for Share]
 


  
You see Share - this vitriol is all coming out of you, generated by you.  I 
interpreted what you said as a joke and I joked back.  You, on the other hand, 
must have been thinking with meanness, because lookie here at the way you have 
replied to me.  You leave me feeling like I need to go for a long swim (but not 
with weights on - ha).  Have a pleasant day.  



 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
[was Re: Four for Share]
 


  
Well Emily as my dear old Pappy says about ASSume: make an ass of u and me. 
Now, about that apology* of yours, were you saying: Share, I apologize for 
saying you were in a dishonest space this time. I meant it in a general way. 


*My apologies Share - none of 
my business.  I often don't understand what you write, by the way, and 
particularly so when you are reactively writing.  It shows up in your 
sentence structure.  My observation around your behavior was a general 
one related to your tendency when you write what I term "revenge posts."  I 
have my own behavior to be accountable for, so will leave you to 
yours.  



 From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
[was Re: Four for Share]
 


  
Golly gee wiz.I think these comebacks may fall under the topic of "How 
Share Got Her Groove Back."  

P.S.  Share, assume I'm smiling in a friendly way at you right now :) :) :)



 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
[was Re: Four for Share]
 


  
Ann, always so good at connotations. Hey, what's a good one for voyeuristic 
tendencies?




 From: Ann 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:43 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was 
Re: Four for Share]
 


  
What a fascinating study in human nature to find you aligned so nicely with 
Barry these days. Interesting bedfellows.











 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to improve TM practice - a heretic's guide

[Bhairitu]

Tantra is not about sex.  If you find someone claiming to be a tantric 
and says it's about sex they're a charlatan.  In the UK look up some of 
the Indian astrologers. Some of them are tantrics. Some may entertain a 
visit and answer questions.  But you need to come armed with knowledge 
to know what to look for and separate the wheat from the chaff.  I would 
suggest Dr. Robert Svoboda's trilogy on tantra to know what to look 
for.  Even with my own late tantra teacher I didn't jump right in but 
tested him for several months.  His videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Swami999


On 07/17/2013 11:04 AM, Seraphita wrote:
> Yes, I'll pick up one of Muktananda's titles - been meaning to do so for
> a while.
> Re tantric reference: I always think of TM as being tantric, at least in
> spirit. So many religious traditions take a dim view of desire (it's
> always the ascetics and monks which get star billing) but tantra always
> claims that desire can be a royal road to enlightenment. That can
> include the whole sex 'n' drugs thing: wonder how many people get stuck
> at that level? Maharishi's basic idea that the mind naturally gravitates
> towards the source of bliss - his "feeding the monkey" image - would
> have struck a chord with tantrics no?
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> I would suggest looking up Muktananda online.  You can find both sites
>> pro and con.  Back in the late 70s a number of TMers including
> teachers
>> read his "conversations" books because he answered questions that MMY
>> wouldn't.
>>
>> There are a number of gurus accused of sexual impropriety including
>> MMY.  The problem of deciding to be a "holy man" and then later
> deciding
>> that was a mistake.  Better to be a tantric which is mainly a
>> householder path.
>>
>> I don't keep track of shaktipat groups.  If you go through the FFL
>> archives you'll find folks discussing other groups.
>>
>> People in the arts tend to have heightened spiritual experiences. The
>> arts culture it.  There was even news last week of a study that showed
>> group singing was as good as practicing yoga.
>>
>>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> When you decide to immigrate to the US Sal, here is the town for you.
> 
> http://abcnews.go.com/US/georgia-towns-law-gun/story?id=18863226#.Uebc7cpt7BA
> 

Sounds like paradise. This might work in a small town where
everyone knows everyone else, trouble is it might get taken
that it's a good strategy and rolled out elsewhere (we know
how illogical people are with their post hoc extrapolations)

Another part of me wants to know what would happen in LA or
London if we all *had* to carry weapons. For instance, would
I be more or less likely to get a seat on the train?

> 
> 
> 
>  From: salyavin808 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:58 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > Salyvain, you can't be serious. Had Trayvon stopped to think Zimmerman 
> > might be armed, I bet he wouldn't have attacked him.
> 
> It's possible, let's settle it by asking him. Oh wait
> 
> Had Zimmerman not been armed, he could have been the one buried.
> 
> Which underlines my original point about just what is so fucked
> up about your country. Everyone expects everyone else to be carrying
> a gun, it must make the place one tense place to live.
> 
> We don't have that in civilised countries, a gun is the last thing
> I expect to see. But if I was confronting someone and I had a gun 
> I'd be more confident no? Which makes someone more likely to be 
> killed during any confrontation I would say.
> 
>  Rachel Jeantel, this is looking more like a hate crime that back fired. 
> Martin and Jeantel thought Zimmerman was a homosexual rapist stalking him and 
> she told him to run, run, run, get away from him. But he didn't, he circled 
> back and confronted Zimmerman and attacked him. According to Ravioli this is 
> justifiable because of black history.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: salyavin808 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:07 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > Has *anyone* in America stopped to ponder whether the problem here
> > is easy availability of guns rather than race or whatever problems?
> > 
> > Seems likely that if you couldn't get hold of 9mm pistols at the
> > corner shop this situation might have amounted to a bit of arguing
> > and not much more. When everyone is scared that everyone else is
> > armed people are bound to be be a bit spikier.
> > 
> > I hear they have armed guards at primary schools now. What the fuck
> > is wrong with your country?
> > 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is 
> > > developing, see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last 
> > > night that Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the 
> > > encounter . She said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a 
> > > *rapist*, a homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was 
> > > Creeped-out by Zimmerman following him. He didn't want Zimmerman 
> > > following him to his home because his little brother was there and 
> > > might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the 
> > > Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the snot out of the 
> > > *fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 45 seconds 
> > > and then fired in self defense. In short, Trayvon's homophobia killed 
> > > him.
> > >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] You guys like "scientific experiments," right?

[Emily Reyn]

Share, I may have misinterpreted you based on your sentence structure.  You 
said:
 
"Part of what was so horrifying about this for me is that the black guy was so 
polite to everyone, even the guy who was shouting at him."  


Read your sentence.  


 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] You guys like "scientific experiments," right?
 


  
Emily, nobody shouted more and more loudly at the white guy. I don't think when 
the older white guy got louder and louder with the polite black guy, I don't 
think that part was staged!




 From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] You guys like "scientific experiments," right?
 


  
Geeezz Share - you unconscious bias is out - they were both polite.  That was 
part of the staged scene both actors were playing.  



 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] You guys like "scientific experiments," right?
 


  
: And the man shouted even louder!





 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:26 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] You guys like "scientific experiments," right?
 


  
Try this one on for size, in between pontificating about
Trayvon Martin and how "threatening" he was. A video crew 
hires two actors to steal a bike chained to a pole along 
a busy park path, while secretly filming the whole thing. 

The "experiment?" Both actors are dressed alike, both are
clearly using burglar tools to steal the bike. But one 
actor is white, and the other is black.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a-v2n62C9k








 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Bhairitu]

On 07/17/2013 10:12 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
 We'uns likes our guns.

>>> So, you'uns don't want to talk about the homophobe
>>> that started the fight and called Zimmerman a white
>>> ass-cracker. Go figure.
>>>
> Bhairitu:
>> So it's all about homophobes?  Like the homophobe on
>> FFL who frequently proclaims "I'm not gay"?
>>
> Well, I think the thread of this post is 'Trayvon Martin
> was a Homophobic bigot', not whether or not you're gay.
>
> So, you don't want to talk about Trayvon Martin was a
> Homophobic bigot. Go figure.

You calling Trayvon Martin a homophobe is the pot calling the kettle 
black.  I invite folks here to look to do a search on FFL and see who 
uses the phrase "I'm not gay" the most even on stuff that isn't related 
to homosexuality.  Somebody sounds very scared and like a Texas cracker.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Mike Dixon]

Nope, Zimmerman's story checked out , he had been on the phone with 911moments 
before, there were witnesses and evidence supporting the witnesses and 
Zimmerman's story and they didn't have a case against Zimmerman after weeks of 
investigation and they still didn't have a case against Zimmerman when they 
went to trial. The media has led the un-informed public down a road that they 
wanted people to believe and it turned out to be a dead end lie.

 


 From: Michael Jackson 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
  
   
 
This is excellent - his summation support my assertion that the local cops 
didn't give a damn about a black kid getting shot by someone not black. 

 


 From: Duveyoung 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 7:26 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
  
  
Cenk nails this issue.   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtcveaMUJSI&list=SPTpcK80irdQidhuTjXxQZNThuoGPeWjT0&feature=player_detailpage
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote: > 
> Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that Rachel 
Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . She said that 
she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a homosexual rapist at 
that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by Zimmerman following him. He 
didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home because his little brother was 
there and might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman 
the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the snot out of the 
*fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 45 seconds and 
then fired in self defense. In short, Trayvon's homophobia
 killed him. >   
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Mike Dixon]

Martyboi, it was Trayvon Martin's friend who was on the phone with him at the 
time, moments before Trayvon died, that let us look into his thought process. 
Maybe she was wrong but that was her claim on Pirece Morgan's program. 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:59 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
  
 
   
 
Travon Martin was a minor...that would have made him suspicious the person 
following him was a perverted pederastand therefore not a homophobic bigot 
- simply a young man who was frightened. Teens shouldn't fight pederasts off?

But in any case, this argument is based on argumentum ad ignorantium...and is 
entirely based on assumptions for which there is no proof - because none of us 
were there and none of us were privy to either party's thought process. 

The only thing we do know is that Travon Martin had a right to be where he was 
and died standing his ground.

   
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Michael Jackson]

When you decide to immigrate to the US Sal, here is the town for you.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/georgia-towns-law-gun/story?id=18863226#.Uebc7cpt7BA







 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:58 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Salyvain, you can't be serious. Had Trayvon stopped to think Zimmerman might 
> be armed, I bet he wouldn't have attacked him.

It's possible, let's settle it by asking him. Oh wait

Had Zimmerman not been armed, he could have been the one buried.

Which underlines my original point about just what is so fucked
up about your country. Everyone expects everyone else to be carrying
a gun, it must make the place one tense place to live.

We don't have that in civilised countries, a gun is the last thing
I expect to see. But if I was confronting someone and I had a gun 
I'd be more confident no? Which makes someone more likely to be 
killed during any confrontation I would say.

 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: salyavin808 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:07 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
> 
>   
> 
> 
> Has *anyone* in America stopped to ponder whether the problem here
> is easy availability of guns rather than race or whatever problems?
> 
> Seems likely that if you couldn't get hold of 9mm pistols at the
> corner shop this situation might have amounted to a bit of arguing
> and not much more. When everyone is scared that everyone else is
> armed people are bound to be be a bit spikier.
> 
> I hear they have armed guards at primary schools now. What the fuck
> is wrong with your country?
> 
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> wrote:
> >
> > Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
> > see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
> > Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . 
> > She said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a 
> > homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by 
> > Zimmerman following him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home 
> > because his little brother was there and might... It's looking more like 
> > Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin 
> > intended to beat the snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. 
> > Zimmerman took a pounding for 45 seconds and then fired in self defense. 
> > In short, Trayvon's homophobia killed him.
> >
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to improve TM practice - a heretic's guide

[Seraphita]

Yes, I'll pick up one of Muktananda's titles - been meaning to do so for
a while.
Re tantric reference: I always think of TM as being tantric, at least in
spirit. So many religious traditions take a dim view of desire (it's
always the ascetics and monks which get star billing) but tantra always
claims that desire can be a royal road to enlightenment. That can
include the whole sex 'n' drugs thing: wonder how many people get stuck
at that level? Maharishi's basic idea that the mind naturally gravitates
towards the source of bliss - his "feeding the monkey" image - would
have struck a chord with tantrics no?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> I would suggest looking up Muktananda online.  You can find both sites
> pro and con.  Back in the late 70s a number of TMers including
teachers
> read his "conversations" books because he answered questions that MMY
> wouldn't.
>
> There are a number of gurus accused of sexual impropriety including
> MMY.  The problem of deciding to be a "holy man" and then later
deciding
> that was a mistake.  Better to be a tantric which is mainly a
> householder path.
>
> I don't keep track of shaktipat groups.  If you go through the FFL
> archives you'll find folks discussing other groups.
>
> People in the arts tend to have heightened spiritual experiences. The
> arts culture it.  There was even news last week of a study that showed
> group singing was as good as practicing yoga.
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[martyboi]

Travon Martin was a minor...that would have made him suspicious the person 
following him was a perverted pederastand therefore not a homophobic bigot 
- simply a young man who was frightened. Teens shouldn't fight pederasts off?

But in any case, this argument is based on argumentum ad ignorantium...and is 
entirely based on assumptions for which there is no proof - because none of us 
were there and none of us were privy to either party's thought process. 

The only thing we do know is that Travon Martin had a right to be where he was 
and died standing his ground.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Salyvain, you can't be serious. Had Trayvon stopped to think Zimmerman might 
> be armed, I bet he wouldn't have attacked him.

It's possible, let's settle it by asking him. Oh wait

Had Zimmerman not been armed, he could have been the one buried.

Which underlines my original point about just what is so fucked
up about your country. Everyone expects everyone else to be carrying
a gun, it must make the place one tense place to live.

We don't have that in civilised countries, a gun is the last thing
I expect to see. But if I was confronting someone and I had a gun 
I'd be more confident no? Which makes someone more likely to be 
killed during any confrontation I would say.


  
>  
> 
> 
>  From: salyavin808 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:07 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
>   
>    
>  
> 
> Has *anyone* in America stopped to ponder whether the problem here
> is easy availability of guns rather than race or whatever problems?
> 
> Seems likely that if you couldn't get hold of 9mm pistols at the
> corner shop this situation might have amounted to a bit of arguing
> and not much more. When everyone is scared that everyone else is
> armed people are bound to be be a bit spikier.
> 
> I hear they have armed guards at primary schools now. What the fuck
> is wrong with your country?
> 
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> wrote:
> >
> > Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
> > see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
> > Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . 
> > She said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a 
> > homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by 
> > Zimmerman following him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home 
> > because his little brother was there and might... It's looking more like 
> > Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin 
> > intended to beat the snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. 
> > Zimmerman took a pounding for 45 seconds and then fired in self defense. 
> > In short, Trayvon's homophobia killed him.
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Mike Dixon]

Salyvain, you can't be serious. Had Trayvon stopped to think Zimmerman might be 
armed, I bet he wouldn't have attacked him. Had Zimmerman not been armed, he 
could have been the one buried. 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:07 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
  
   
 

Has *anyone* in America stopped to ponder whether the problem here
is easy availability of guns rather than race or whatever problems?

Seems likely that if you couldn't get hold of 9mm pistols at the
corner shop this situation might have amounted to a bit of arguing
and not much more. When everyone is scared that everyone else is
armed people are bound to be be a bit spikier.

I hear they have armed guards at primary schools now. What the fuck
is wrong with your country?

--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
wrote:
>
> Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
> see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
> Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . She 
> said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a homosexual 
> rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by Zimmerman following 
> him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home because his little 
> brother was there and might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended to 
> give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the 
> snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 
> 45 seconds and then fired in self defense. In short, Trayvon's homophobia 
> killed him.
>

   
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] You guys like "scientific experiments," right?

[Share Long]

Emily, nobody shouted more and more loudly at the white guy. I don't think when 
the older white guy got louder and louder with the polite black guy, I don't 
think that part was staged!




 From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] You guys like "scientific experiments," right?
 


  
Geeezz Share - you unconscious bias is out - they were both polite.  That was 
part of the staged scene both actors were playing.  



 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] You guys like "scientific experiments," right?
 


  
:Part of what was so horrifying about this for me is that the black guy was so 
polite to everyone, even the guy who was shouting at him. And the man shouted 
even louder!





 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:26 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] You guys like "scientific experiments," right?
 


  
Try this one on for size, in between pontificating about
Trayvon Martin and how "threatening" he was. A video crew 
hires two actors to steal a bike chained to a pole along 
a busy park path, while secretly filming the whole thing. 

The "experiment?" Both actors are dressed alike, both are
clearly using burglar tools to steal the bike. But one 
actor is white, and the other is black.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a-v2n62C9k






 

Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]

[Share Long]

Sorry, Emily, I was joking too. Hope you have a pleasant day also. And a nice 
swim (-:





 From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
[was Re: Four for Share]
 


  
You see Share - this vitriol is all coming out of you, generated by you.  I 
interpreted what you said as a joke and I joked back.  You, on the other hand, 
must have been thinking with meanness, because lookie here at the way you have 
replied to me.  You leave me feeling like I need to go for a long swim (but not 
with weights on - ha).  Have a pleasant day.  



 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
[was Re: Four for Share]
 


  
Well Emily as my dear old Pappy says about ASSume: make an ass of u and me. 
Now, about that apology* of yours, were you saying: Share, I apologize for 
saying you were in a dishonest space this time. I meant it in a general way. 


*My apologies Share - none of 
my business.  I often don't understand what you write, by the way, and 
particularly so when you are reactively writing.  It shows up in your 
sentence structure.  My observation around your behavior was a general 
one related to your tendency when you write what I term "revenge posts."  I 
have my own behavior to be accountable for, so will leave you to 
yours.  



 From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
[was Re: Four for Share]
 


  
Golly gee wiz.I think these comebacks may fall under the topic of "How 
Share Got Her Groove Back."  

P.S.  Share, assume I'm smiling in a friendly way at you right now :) :) :)



 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
[was Re: Four for Share]
 


  
Ann, always so good at connotations. Hey, what's a good one for voyeuristic 
tendencies?




 From: Ann 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:43 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was 
Re: Four for Share]
 


  
What a fascinating study in human nature to find you aligned so nicely with 
Barry these days. Interesting bedfellows.









 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Mike Dixon]

Ravioli not only justifies his own bad behavior, in the name of his Mother 
Goddess Kali, but now justifies the bad behavior of a teen attacking someone 
out of an irrational fear. I guess Zimmerman was supposed to lie their on his 
back and take it like a man... a white-Hispanic man at that and if death or 
severe injury occurred, well... it's his *karma*.

 


 From: Ravi Chivukula 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
  
   
 
Yes I think Mikey boy's right.Zimmerman had to act in self-defense against the 
racist, homophobic bigotry of African Americans, epitomized by Travyon. How can 
one not feel the pain and burden of Whites with their long history of slavery 
when African American landowners shipped them from Europe, then being confined 
to housing projects with rampant guns, drugs, cheap wine, cheap meat - coupled 
with systematic racism denying them employment opportunities forcing a cycle of 
white-on-white violence, high crime rate, alcoholism and drug abuse. The burden 
of being constantly profiled, harassed and abused by the predominantly 
African-American police. God I myself spent 3 years around housing projecting 
witnessing the pain and burden of Whites. Who can ever forget a bunch of 
African Americans torturing, tying the young homosexual Mathew Shepard to a 
fence and leaving him to die.My sympathies are with Whites, Mikey boy and 
Zimmerman. 
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Mike Dixon  wrote: 
 
>  
>Zimmerman defended his life from a person with an irrational fear of him. He 
>had no other choice.
>
> 
> From: feste37 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:57 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
>  
> 
>  
>Maybe Trayvon thought that Zimmerman was an alien -- a creature from Mars or 
>somewhere like that. It was Trayvon's irrational fear of extraterrestrial life 
>that killed him. Zimmerman had nothing to do with it.  
>--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
>wrote: > > Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is 
>developing, see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night 
>that Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . 
>She said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*,�a 
>homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by Zimmerman 
>following him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home because his 
>little brother was there and might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended 
>to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the 
>snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 
>45 seconds and then fired in self defense.�In short, Trayvon's homophobia 
>killed him. >   
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Richard J. Williams]

> > > We'uns likes our guns.
> > >
> > So, you'uns don't want to talk about the homophobe
> > that started the fight and called Zimmerman a white
> > ass-cracker. Go figure.
> >
Bhairitu:
> So it's all about homophobes?  Like the homophobe on 
> FFL who frequently proclaims "I'm not gay"?
>
Well, I think the thread of this post is 'Trayvon Martin 
was a Homophobic bigot', not whether or not you're gay.

So, you don't want to talk about Trayvon Martin was a 
Homophobic bigot. Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Richard J. Williams]

mjackson:
> as the defense lawyers pointed out, the assertions of the
> prosecution were incorrect because no one was there so 
> there is no way of knowing what actually happened. They 
> failed to say the same logic should apply to their own 
> assertions. Meaning that your assertion that Martin was 
> homophobic and started the fight
>
According to Rachel, Treyvon was homophobic, calling George
an ass-cracker; according to the eye witness at the trial, 
Treyvon was on top of George who was yelling for help.

HuffPost:
http://tinyurl.com/lcjckvt

> cannot possibly be true because you weren't there and 
> have no way of knowing. 
>
The trial is over and the verdict is in, so I guess it's 
true that George Zimmerman broke no laws in defending 
himself. Have you ever considered taking a course in 
law or self defense?

> Plus, the real deal is that there was no Buddhist stupa 
> in the gated community to ward off negative vibes...
> 
So, why didn't you insist on living inside the MIU stupa
instead of a small, cold, drafty pod? Usually in a Zen
monastery, the cook gets the best lodgings and best food.

Go figure.
 

> > We'uns likes our guns.
> > 
> So, you'uns don't want to talk about the homophobe 
> that started the fight and called Zimmerman a white
> ass-cracker. Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Mike Dixon]

LOL! I think I hear Mick Jagger singing Empathy for the Devil!

 


 From: Ravi Chivukula 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
  
 
   
 


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Seraphita  wrote: 
 
>  
>Christ, get over yourself! Treat people as individuals not as representatives 
>of a particular race or nation.
I can't Seraphita baby - how can you be so cold-hearted and not show any 
empathy to my pain, my bitterness, the sadness and the overwhelming resentment 
I feel against the deep rooted, deep seated, deep, deep, fucking deep bigotry 
of African Americans?

You heartless bastard - I hate you - you hear me? I fucking HATE YOU @!#$%^&*(& 

>Re "Zimmerman had to act in self-defense against the racist, homophobic 
>bigotry of African Americans": you listen to any hip-hop music recently? 
>Clearly some black individuals (notice I said "some" there?) can't abide gays.
>
>
>What 
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:>> Yes I think 
>Mikey boy's right. > > Zimmerman had to act in self-defense against the 
>racist, homophobic bigotry> of African Americans, epitomized by Travyon.> > 
>How can one not feel the pain and burden of Whites with their long history > 
>of slavery when African American landowners shipped them from Europe, then> 
>being confined to housing projects with rampant guns, drugs, cheap wine,> 
>cheap meat - coupled with systematic racism denying them employment > 
>opportunities forcing a cycle of white-on-white violence, high crime rate,> 
>alcoholism and drug abuse. The burden of being constantly profiled,> harassed 
>and abused by the predominantly African-American police. God I > myself spent 
>3 years around housing projecting witnessing the pain and> burden of Whites.> 
>> Who can ever forget a bunch of African Americans torturing, tying the young> 
>homosexual Mathew Shepard to a fence and leaving him to
 die. > > My sympathies are with Whites, Mikey boy and Zimmerman.> > > 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Bhairitu]

On 07/17/2013 07:06 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>> We'uns likes our guns.
>>
> So, you'uns don't want to talk about the homophobe
> that started the fight and called Zimmerman a white
> ass-cracker. Go figure.
>
>

So it's all about homophobes?  Like the homophobe on FFL who frequently 
proclaims "I'm not gay"?

Re: [FairfieldLife] You guys like "scientific experiments," right?

[Emily Reyn]

Geeezz Share - you unconscious bias is out - they were both polite.  That was 
part of the staged scene both actors were playing.  



 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] You guys like "scientific experiments," right?
 


  
:Part of what was so horrifying about this for me is that the black guy was so 
polite to everyone, even the guy who was shouting at him. And the man shouted 
even louder!





 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:26 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] You guys like "scientific experiments," right?
 


  
Try this one on for size, in between pontificating about
Trayvon Martin and how "threatening" he was. A video crew 
hires two actors to steal a bike chained to a pole along 
a busy park path, while secretly filming the whole thing. 

The "experiment?" Both actors are dressed alike, both are
clearly using burglar tools to steal the bike. But one 
actor is white, and the other is black.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a-v2n62C9k




 

[FairfieldLife] In praise of being "Random"

[Bhairitu]

Yesterday there was a brief discussion of a system to predict where you 
would be in the future.  Today the news is all over the story about cops 
taking pictures of your license plate so they can predict where you 
might be on a given day (clue: try the GPS on my phone instead.  It 
might be far more accurate).  Seems to me these agencies collect a lot 
of useless information for no other reason than to scare the public and 
thus try to keep them under control. Remember the cops are our servants 
not the other way around.  We pay their paychecks.

http://news.yahoo.com/driving-somewhere-theres-govt-record-140052644.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]

[Emily Reyn]

You see Share - this vitriol is all coming out of you, generated by you.  I 
interpreted what you said as a joke and I joked back.  You, on the other hand, 
must have been thinking with meanness, because lookie here at the way you have 
replied to me.  You leave me feeling like I need to go for a long swim (but not 
with weights on - ha).  Have a pleasant day.  



 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
[was Re: Four for Share]
 


  
Well Emily as my dear old Pappy says about ASSume: make an ass of u and me. 
Now, about that apology* of yours, were you saying: Share, I apologize for 
saying you were in a dishonest space this time. I meant it in a general way. 


*My apologies Share - none of 
my business.  I often don't understand what you write, by the way, and 
particularly so when you are reactively writing.  It shows up in your 
sentence structure.  My observation around your behavior was a general 
one related to your tendency when you write what I term "revenge posts."  I 
have my own behavior to be accountable for, so will leave you to 
yours.  



 From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
[was Re: Four for Share]
 


  
Golly gee wiz.I think these comebacks may fall under the topic of "How 
Share Got Her Groove Back."  

P.S.  Share, assume I'm smiling in a friendly way at you right now :) :) :)



 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
[was Re: Four for Share]
 


  
Ann, always so good at connotations. Hey, what's a good one for voyeuristic 
tendencies?




 From: Ann 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:43 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was 
Re: Four for Share]
 


  
What a fascinating study in human nature to find you aligned so nicely with 
Barry these days. Interesting bedfellows.







 

[FairfieldLife] Re: You guys like "scientific experiments," right?

[Richard J. Williams]

> > Try this one on for size, in between pontificating about
> > Trayvon Martin and how "threatening" he was...
> >
salyavin808:
> Fascinating, I'd have just shot them
>
Shot them with what? LoL!

What if Martin was black, and Zimmerman was Hispanic and 
half-black and part white and gay? Would that give Martin, 
a known homophobe, the right to break George's nose and 
jump him, calling him an ass-cracker and pounding his head 
on the pavement?

"What is it with these people and their desire 
to shoot civil rights activists?"

Posted by Glenn Reynolds:
Instapundit, January 19,2013
http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/161867/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to improve TM practice - a heretic's guide

[Bhairitu]

I would suggest looking up Muktananda online.  You can find both sites 
pro and con.  Back in the late 70s a number of TMers including teachers 
read his "conversations" books because he answered questions that MMY 
wouldn't.

There are a number of gurus accused of sexual impropriety including 
MMY.  The problem of deciding to be a "holy man" and then later deciding 
that was a mistake.  Better to be a tantric which is mainly a 
householder path.

I don't keep track of shaktipat groups.  If you go through the FFL 
archives you'll find folks discussing other groups.

People in the arts tend to have heightened spiritual experiences. The 
arts culture it.  There was even news last week of a study that showed 
group singing was as good as practicing yoga.

On 07/16/2013 05:04 PM, Seraphita wrote:
> Thanks yet again. Taking on board what you say about shaktipat and
> book-learning, which of Muktananda's books would you recommend if I just
> wanted to learn about the man and his trajectory? And, with apologies
> for lowering the tone of the conversation, what did you make of the
> accusations of sexual impropriety against "Mucky"? As he seems to be
> guilty as charged (no?) does that invalidate what he had to teach?
> Also, do you know of any shaktipat groups in the UK that could be worth
> investigating? Does your group have centres (centers) over here?
> As regards your personal history, did you ever try psychedelics back in
> the day; I'm wondering if they might have been a cause of some of your
> experiences. (If you don't want to answer this bit, that's fine too!)
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> On 07/16/2013 04:15 PM, Seraphita wrote:
>>> Thanks again. Re "Beej mantras are commonly used in astrology and
>>> ayurveda . . . tells the person to repeat the mantra either in a
> short
>>> meditation or sometimes throughout the day (like a walking mantra)."
>>> Repeating the mantra through the day (like the Hare Krishna crowd)
> is
>>> very different from effortless TM. The point is kinda to forget the
>>> mantra.
>> There is the TM walking mantra for kids.  And in TM the mantra "is
> just
>> a faint idea."  FYI, I taught TM too.
>>
>>> Re: "When longer mantras are given as a public "first technique"
> then
>>> the teacher usually gives shaktipat to jump-start them. Muktananda's
>>> organization teaches this way. But the guru has to wait until his
>>> teachers have developed enough shakti to give shakipat to teach
> these. I
>>> was also taught by my tantra guru to teach meditation this way." You
>>> sound like the guy I need to meet! What I've read about Muktananda's
>>> shaktipat trickery has always intrigued me - he was able to produce
>>> serious shifts in his students awareness - shifts that are difficult
> to
>>> explain. Do you think it comes down to hypnotic suggestion? - which
> is
>>> what charismatic church leaders seem to practise (perhaps
>>> unconsciously). Or do you reckon there's something more going on
> here?
>> It is the transference of energy or shakti.  It isn't hypnosis.
> Tantrics
>> are supposed to get so powerful and good at it that they can
> temporarily
>> animate a dead corpse in a cremation ground.
>>> I
>>> was recently looking for a (basic, non-technical) book on shaktipat
> that
>>> might give me some insight: can you recommend any titles (maybe one
> of
>>> Muktananda's as I've not read any of his books)?
>> It can't be learned from a book.  It is really simple and there have
>> been others on FFL who have taken some of the shaktipat courses that
>> other Indian teachers have offered.  My teacher limited me to giving
> it
>> only 7 times per day when starting out.   But he also only allowed me
> to
>> do the technique after 5 years of instruction.
>>> Re " . . . With a little zip from performing a puja before each
> teaching
>>> session. But a lot of people might have just picked the beej mantra
> up
>>> out of book and it would have worked after a while." Yes, there are
> some
>>> on-line TM-type instructors that have appeared recently. I remember
> from
>>> my own TM initiation that I felt the dive within right from the
> get-go.
>>> In fact, it took me completely by surprise. Those who've tried
> learning
>>> from a book or on-line do report benefits so I hope they're getting
> the
>>> same experiences but I wonder if, by missing out on that
> face-to-face
>>> encounter, something gets lost by the mediation of text or
> technology.
>> Three years prior to learning TM I tried a meditation out of a book.
> I
>> didn't expect anything but the kundalini rose to the crown chakra.  It
>> was as if I went up into the sun and coming out I was disoriented.  I
>> had been doing some yoga asanas that were taught to me by someone in
> the
>> house where I was staying.  Those probably helped prime me but OTOH I
>> had spiritual experiences since childhood but nothing like the
> kundalini
>> rising.
>>
>> So it depends.  I also had a friend who was raised by R

[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of "on the rag"

[Richard J. Williams]

> > I predict no reply. All they can do is *claim* that 
> > they post other things. When asked to produce them, 
> > they can't.
> >
doctordumbass:
> WTF are you doing!??! Obsessing over this shit, 
> *at work*?? 
> 
This is total bull shit that Barry just posted at
work. Everyone knows I've post stuff, ad nauseum, to
this and other lists. I don't blame people for not
responding - maybe they have a life. Go figure.

But, Barry is to full of himself and ill informed to 
have an actual discussion anyway. LoL! 

Some stuff I posted:
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives.htm

> OR you could
> read a headline, 
> take a piss, 
> get a coffee, 
> say hi to one of those interns, 
> tell your boss how great everything is going, 
> rearrange your cube drawer, 
> clean your fingernails, 
> look out the window, 
> go for a quick stroll, in natural light, 
> close your eyes and rest, 
> make a funny face secretly to yourself. 
> 
> Seriously, get a life.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Stuck here waiting for a software build that takes a while, 
> > unable to work until it completes, I thought I'd do five 
> > minutes of Yahoo Searching to illustrate my point lately
> > that Ann, more than any other of Judy's minions, has become
> > pretty much monotopical in her ongoing negativity. Like Judy,
> > she doesn't seem capable of *recognizing* this trend in 
> > herself, but a quick scan of her 35 posts so far this week
> > kinda reveals the trend.
> > 
> > Ann's "on the rag" posts this week that contained slams 
> > against people she doesn't like (there can be some dupli-
> > cation in these totals, in that she often slammed more 
> > than one of her "enemies" in the same post):
> > - ragging on Share: 1 11 (7)
> > - ragging on Barry: 1 1 1 1 11 (22)
> > - ragging on Seraphita: 1 1 (6)
> > - ragging on Susan: 11 (2)
> > - ragging on the author of an article mentioned by Barry: 1
> > 
> > Ann's "content" (meaning "non-slam") posts this week consisted of:
> > - one nice post about Snowmass to Steve
> > - one post congratulating Raunchy for ragging effectively :-)
> > - two posts congratulating Ravi for ragging effectively :-)
> > - one post full of platitudes about the Zimmerman case
> > - one post liking a Walt Whitman poem that was posted 
> > by...uh...someone else
> > 
> > I could undoubtedly come up with similar numbers for Judy's
> > 46 posts this week, but why bother? Neither of these women
> > seems *capable* of recognizing their own behavioral trends,
> > and thus of being able to correct them in any way. 
> > 
> > My point is that I suspect that the two of them spend almost 
> > ALL of their time on Fairfield Life ragging on other people 
> > BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.
> > 
> > I invite either or both of them to dispute this by providing
> > a complete list of posts (*including* the URLs to them) they 
> > have made on FFL during the last month that did NOT -- 
> > anywhere in the post -- contain a putdown, insult, or slam 
> > against one of their regular "enemies." 
> > 
> > I predict no reply. All they can do is *claim* that they
> > post other things. When asked to produce them, they can't.
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "I create my reality" Yeah, right...

[Bhairitu]

And where's the group that practiced other meditation programs? Also TM 
people start sounding like parrots of stuff they learned from SCI, 
rounding courses, etc. They can't seem to put their experiences in their 
own words.

On 07/16/2013 11:39 PM, sparaig wrote:
> People respond to the interview question "Describe your self," in different 
> ways, depending on the physiological state of their nervous system.
>
> Researchers on the effects of Transcendental Meditation asked for people who 
> had been practicing TM who were reporting a certain kind of experience -- 
> ["pure 
> consciousness"](http://www.psychosomaticmedicine.org/content/44/2/133.full.pdf)
>  -- as a permanent trait outside of meditation practice, to respond to that 
> question, and correlated their answers with physiological measures.
>
> They did the same with 2 other groups of people, people who had never learned 
> TM but wanted to, and people who had been practicing TM for several years, 
> but didn't report permanent pure consciousness outside of meditation or very 
> frequently during.
>
> Researchers than correlated the answers to the question with the 
> physiological measures, and established a "Brain Integration Scale," with the 
> [psychological](http://www.totalbrain.ch/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/eeg-of-enlightenment.pdf)
>   and 
> [physiological](http://www.totalbrain.ch/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/brain-integration-progress-report.pdf)
>   measurements of the first group clustered to the right, and the 
> psychological/physiological responses of the no-meditation group to the left. 
> The "non-enlightened" meditators tended to be less experienced than the 
> right-most group, and clustered their responses/EEG in the middle.
>
> The responses to the question were roughly in three categories, ranging from 
> very "object referral" to very abstract "self referral":
>
> .
>
> **Non-TM Group: Self is identified with thoughts, feelings, and actions**
>
> N1: I guess I'm open to new experiences, and I tend to appreciate those 
> things that are different
>
> N2: I kind of like to forge my own way
>
> N3: I am open to change and new ideas. . . I'm an adventuress. I like to go 
> out. . .and experiment with new ideas
>
> N4: I tend to appreciate those things that are different, even in my style of 
> dress. I like something usually because its odd or strange or something that 
> other people absolutely wouldnÕt wear
>
> N5: I'm happy, caring, helpful, I like people who like to help other people; 
> I hate seeing anyone in trouble
>
> .
>
> **Short-Term group: Self is the director of thoughts, feelings, and actions**
>
> S1: I'm my own awareness. My ability to perceive and be aware. I'm my own 
> potential, my own power,
>
> S2: I'm my own capabilities; my ability to learn; my ability to do things. . 
> . in it's essential natureâ€"my ability to act
>
> S3: There are many different levels to who I am. I'm a sister, a daughter, a 
> friend, an athlete, a nature lover, a seeker of the truth. I'm a very 
> spiritual person. I believe that I can do and accomplish anything that I set 
> my mind to
>
> S4: I am a little bit more silent, more reserved, and thoughtful than most, 
> with a deep desire to just succeed in all activities and at the same time to 
> develop spiritually very quickly
>
> S5: Who I am is who I am inside. How I think. What I believe. How I feel. How 
> I react
>
> .
>
> **Long-term Group: Self is independent of and underlying thoughts, feelings, 
> and actions**
>
> L1: We ordinarily think my self as this age; this color of hair; these 
> hobbies . . . my experience is that my Self is a lot larger than that. It's 
> immeasurably vast. . . on a physical level. It is not just restricted to this 
> physical environment
>
> L2: It's the ‘‘I am-ness.’’ It's my Being. There's just a channel 
> underneath that's just underlying everything. It's my essence there and it 
> just doesn't stop where I stop. . . by ‘‘I,’’ I mean this 5 ft. 2 
> person that moves around here and there
>
>
> L3: I look out and see this beautiful divine Intelligence. . . you could say 
> in the sky, in the tree, but really being expressed through these things. . . 
> and these are my Self
>
> L3: I experience myself as being without edges or content. . . beyond the 
> universe. . . all-pervading, and being absolutely thrilled, absolutely 
> delighted with every motion that my body makes. With everything that my eyes 
> see, my ears hear, my nose smells. There's a delight in the sense that I am 
> able to penetrate that. My consciousness, my intelligence pervades everything 
> I see, feel and think
>
> L5: When I say ’’I’’ that's the Self. There's a quality that is so 
> pervasive about the Self that I'm quite sure that the ‘‘I’’ is the 
> same ‘‘I’’ as everyone else's ‘‘I.’’ Not in terms of what 
> follows right after. I am tall, I am short, I am fat, I am this, I am that. 
> But th

Re: [FairfieldLife] You guys like "scientific experiments," right?

[Share Long]

:Part of what was so horrifying about this for me is that the black guy was so 
polite to everyone, even the guy who was shouting at him. And the man shouted 
even louder!





 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:26 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] You guys like "scientific experiments," right?
 


  
Try this one on for size, in between pontificating about
Trayvon Martin and how "threatening" he was. A video crew 
hires two actors to steal a bike chained to a pole along 
a busy park path, while secretly filming the whole thing. 

The "experiment?" Both actors are dressed alike, both are
clearly using burglar tools to steal the bike. But one 
actor is white, and the other is black.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a-v2n62C9k


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of "on the rag"

[doctordumbass]

Maybe, though I can assure you, it ain't mutual...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > WTF are you doing!??! Obsessing over this shit, *at work*?? 
> > 
> > OR you could
> > read a headline, 
> > take a piss, 
> > get a coffee, 
> > say hi to one of those interns, 
> > tell your boss how great everything is going, 
> > rearrange your cube drawer, 
> > clean your fingernails, 
> > look out the window, 
> > go for a quick stroll, in natural light, 
> > close your eyes and rest, 
> > make a funny face secretly to yourself. 
> > 
> > Seriously, get a life.
> 
> Doc, we ARE his life.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > Stuck here waiting for a software build that takes a while, 
> > > unable to work until it completes, I thought I'd do five 
> > > minutes of Yahoo Searching to illustrate my point lately
> > > that Ann, more than any other of Judy's minions, has become
> > > pretty much monotopical in her ongoing negativity. Like Judy,
> > > she doesn't seem capable of *recognizing* this trend in 
> > > herself, but a quick scan of her 35 posts so far this week
> > > kinda reveals the trend.
> > > 
> > > Ann's "on the rag" posts this week that contained slams 
> > > against people she doesn't like (there can be some dupli-
> > > cation in these totals, in that she often slammed more 
> > > than one of her "enemies" in the same post):
> > > - ragging on Share: 1 11 (7)
> > > - ragging on Barry: 1 1 1 1 11 (22)
> > > - ragging on Seraphita: 1 1 (6)
> > > - ragging on Susan: 11 (2)
> > > - ragging on the author of an article mentioned by Barry: 1
> > > 
> > > Ann's "content" (meaning "non-slam") posts this week consisted of:
> > > - one nice post about Snowmass to Steve
> > > - one post congratulating Raunchy for ragging effectively :-)
> > > - two posts congratulating Ravi for ragging effectively :-)
> > > - one post full of platitudes about the Zimmerman case
> > > - one post liking a Walt Whitman poem that was posted 
> > > by...uh...someone else
> > > 
> > > I could undoubtedly come up with similar numbers for Judy's
> > > 46 posts this week, but why bother? Neither of these women
> > > seems *capable* of recognizing their own behavioral trends,
> > > and thus of being able to correct them in any way. 
> > > 
> > > My point is that I suspect that the two of them spend almost 
> > > ALL of their time on Fairfield Life ragging on other people 
> > > BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.
> > > 
> > > I invite either or both of them to dispute this by providing
> > > a complete list of posts (*including* the URLs to them) they 
> > > have made on FFL during the last month that did NOT -- 
> > > anywhere in the post -- contain a putdown, insult, or slam 
> > > against one of their regular "enemies." 
> > > 
> > > I predict no reply. All they can do is *claim* that they
> > > post other things. When asked to produce them, they can't.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of "on the rag"

[Richard J. Williams]

Looks like Ann pushed Barely Right's buttons. LoL! 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> God Barry, you DO think about me an awful lot. It's getting a little creepy. 
> Back off for a while, could ya'? Everything I do I feel your eyes on me (or 
> at least every one of my posts), every time I go to write something I know 
> you are waiting in the wings to read it, eagerly. Now you're writing about me 
> constantly. Relating everything I do to what you are thinking and doing. Do 
> you dream about me too? You don't have a small butt do you??
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Stuck here waiting for a software build that takes a while, 
> > unable to work until it completes, I thought I'd do five 
> > minutes of Yahoo Searching to illustrate my point lately
> > that Ann, more than any other of Judy's minions, has become
> > pretty much monotopical in her ongoing negativity. Like Judy,
> > she doesn't seem capable of *recognizing* this trend in 
> > herself, but a quick scan of her 35 posts so far this week
> > kinda reveals the trend.
> > 
> > Ann's "on the rag" posts this week that contained slams 
> > against people she doesn't like (there can be some dupli-
> > cation in these totals, in that she often slammed more 
> > than one of her "enemies" in the same post):
> > - ragging on Share: 1 11 (7)
> > - ragging on Barry: 1 1 1 1 11 (22)
> > - ragging on Seraphita: 1 1 (6)
> > - ragging on Susan: 11 (2)
> > - ragging on the author of an article mentioned by Barry: 1
> > 
> > Ann's "content" (meaning "non-slam") posts this week consisted of:
> > - one nice post about Snowmass to Steve
> > - one post congratulating Raunchy for ragging effectively :-)
> > - two posts congratulating Ravi for ragging effectively :-)
> > - one post full of platitudes about the Zimmerman case
> > - one post liking a Walt Whitman poem that was posted 
> > by...uh...someone else
> > 
> > I could undoubtedly come up with similar numbers for Judy's
> > 46 posts this week, but why bother? Neither of these women
> > seems *capable* of recognizing their own behavioral trends,
> > and thus of being able to correct them in any way. 
> > 
> > My point is that I suspect that the two of them spend almost 
> > ALL of their time on Fairfield Life ragging on other people 
> > BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.
> > 
> > I invite either or both of them to dispute this by providing
> > a complete list of posts (*including* the URLs to them) they 
> > have made on FFL during the last month that did NOT -- 
> > anywhere in the post -- contain a putdown, insult, or slam 
> > against one of their regular "enemies." 
> > 
> > I predict no reply. All they can do is *claim* that they
> > post other things. When asked to produce them, they can't.
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Michael Jackson]

as the defense lawyers pointed out, the assertions of the prosecution were 
incorrect because no one was there so there is no way of knowing what actually 
happened. They failed to say the same logic should apply to their own 
assertions. Meaning that your assertion that Martin was homophobic and started 
the fight cannot possibly be true because you weren't there and have no way of 
knowing. Plus, the real deal is that there was no Buddhist stupa in the gated 
community to ward off negative vibes, so the whole thing is your fault for not 
going there and installing one and teaching the Zimmermans and the Martins the 
importance of living in, praying to and wearing Buddhists stupas.





 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:06 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> We'uns likes our guns.
> 
So, you'uns don't want to talk about the homophobe 
that started the fight and called Zimmerman a white
ass-cracker. Go figure.

> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: salyavin808 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:07 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> Has *anyone* in America stopped to ponder whether the problem here
> is easy availability of guns rather than race or whatever problems?
> 
> Seems likely that if you couldn't get hold of 9mm pistols at the
> corner shop this situation might have amounted to a bit of arguing
> and not much more. When everyone is scared that everyone else is
> armed people are bound to be be a bit spikier.
> 
> I hear they have armed guards at primary schools now. What the fuck
> is wrong with your country?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
> > see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
> > Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . 
> > She said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a 
> > homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by 
> > Zimmerman following him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home 
> > because his little brother was there and might... It's looking more like 
> > Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin 
> > intended to beat the snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. 
> > Zimmerman took a pounding for 45 seconds and then fired in self defense. 
> > In short, Trayvon's homophobia killed him.
> >
>


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of "on the rag"

[Share Long]

Ann, watch out, we may have to cast you as Miss Hattie. Raunchy is obviously 
Kyle at 1:03 and 3:28. Enjoy, Best of Agnes:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm3UIfaQtTo




 From: Ann 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:54 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of "on the rag"
 


  
God Barry, you DO think about me an awful lot. It's getting a little creepy. 
Back off for a while, could ya'? Everything I do I feel your eyes on me (or at 
least every one of my posts), every time I go to write something I know you are 
waiting in the wings to read it, eagerly. Now you're writing about me 
constantly. Relating everything I do to what you are thinking and doing. Do you 
dream about me too? You don't have a small butt do you??

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Stuck here waiting for a software build that takes a while, 
> unable to work until it completes, I thought I'd do five 
> minutes of Yahoo Searching to illustrate my point lately
> that Ann, more than any other of Judy's minions, has become
> pretty much monotopical in her ongoing negativity. Like Judy,
> she doesn't seem capable of *recognizing* this trend in 
> herself, but a quick scan of her 35 posts so far this week
> kinda reveals the trend.
> 
> Ann's "on the rag" posts this week that contained slams 
> against people she doesn't like (there can be some dupli-
> cation in these totals, in that she often slammed more 
> than one of her "enemies" in the same post):
> - ragging on Share: 1 11 (7)
> - ragging on Barry: 1 1 1 1 11 (22)
> - ragging on Seraphita: 1 1 (6)
> - ragging on Susan: 11 (2)
> - ragging on the author of an article mentioned by Barry: 1
> 
> Ann's "content" (meaning "non-slam") posts this week consisted of:
> - one nice post about Snowmass to Steve
> - one post congratulating Raunchy for ragging effectively :-)
> - two posts congratulating Ravi for ragging effectively :-)
> - one post full of platitudes about the Zimmerman case
> - one post liking a Walt Whitman poem that was posted 
> by...uh...someone else
> 
> I could undoubtedly come up with similar numbers for Judy's
> 46 posts this week, but why bother? Neither of these women
> seems *capable* of recognizing their own behavioral trends,
> and thus of being able to correct them in any way. 
> 
> My point is that I suspect that the two of them spend almost 
> ALL of their time on Fairfield Life ragging on other people 
> BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.
> 
> I invite either or both of them to dispute this by providing
> a complete list of posts (*including* the URLs to them) they 
> have made on FFL during the last month that did NOT -- 
> anywhere in the post -- contain a putdown, insult, or slam 
> against one of their regular "enemies." 
> 
> I predict no reply. All they can do is *claim* that they
> post other things. When asked to produce them, they can't.
>


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Michael Jackson]

To complete the picture I should say that the Old Man normally only had long 
guns - a .22 rifle my brother still has, a 20 gauge double barreled side by 
side that bro also has, and a 410 gauge the Old Man bought my brother when he 
was 14. 

Pops acquired the .357 under mysterious circumstances. When I asked him where 
he got it, he claimed he bought it off a drunk man who wanted some whiskey so 
bad he sold the gun for forty dollars. He might have been lying (he was known 
to do that from time to time) but that's what he claimed. We were a little 
uncomfortable with it out like that and loaded, but the Old Man wouldn't budge. 
As he claimed, "If it ain't loaded and you need it, it ain't worth a damn." And 
yes he had it to kill someone should anyone ever have the temerity to break 
into the house.

That never happened, although he did threaten to kill several people over the 
years with it, one of whom was a TM teacher I knew. Andy called me to invite me 
to what turned out to be the official announcement of the TM Sidhi courses. The 
Old Man answered the phone (he had had a few drinks) and when he figured out he 
was talking to a TM teacher, he, among other things, offered to let Andy come 
up there whereupon Dad told him he would "ram the barrel of the .357 up your 
ass and pull the trigger to straighten your head out."

Andy declined the offer. If I recollect rightly, he threatened to use the 
revolver on four other people, in two instances it was because his tenants (he 
lived in one side of a duplex and rented the other side out) had brought over 
some "niggers" for socializing, not for working. And yes he made the tenants 
move out. Forget the equal housing laws, the tenants were in no mood to 
complain. Just a slice of Southern life. 





 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:52 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Its just part of life for a lot of people here. My old 
> man used to keep a loaded .357 Magnum on his bureau. 
> We never shot nobody with it though. 

It's an incredible blind spot for many people. Their
whole "American mythos" keeps them from noticing it
and how insane it is. Unless you live in "bear country"
(the only North American animal that would require a 
.357 magnum to take it down), the *only* reason to 
own a gun like that is to *kill people*.

I think I've mentioned here a friend from Santa Fe who
is a classic example of this "blind spot." In person
he's just the nicest guy in the world -- a talented 
guitarist and folk singer, loving father and husband,
etc. He *does* have a tendency to get monotopical about
Libertarianism, which is why I have had to block his
posts on some forums we share. He was also a Divinity
student in his youth, and almost became a preacher. 

But he owns over forty (40) guns. Some of them have 
been converted to full auto. In fact, he has over half
of them wrapped in oilcloth and buried in a trunk some-
where secret, in preparation for the day when "The
guvmint will come to get my other guns." Go figure. 

> 
>  From: salyavin808 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:02 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Has *anyone* in America stopped to ponder whether the problem
> > > here is easy availability of guns rather than race or whatever
> > problems?
> > >
> > > Seems likely that if you couldn't get hold of 9mm pistols at the
> > > corner shop this situation might have amounted to a bit of arguing
> > > and not much more. When everyone is scared that everyone else is
> > > armed people are bound to be be a bit spikier.
> > >
> > > I hear they have armed guards at primary schools now. What the
> > > fuck is wrong with your country?
> > 
> > It's a kind of collective "me first" insanity, bred of seeing too
> > many cowboy/cop movies, believing in too many of America's
> > myths, and never having been exposed to other, more civilized
> > countries and societies.
> > 
> > The Bureau of Consular Affairs now *brags* that a "record
> > number of Americans now hold passports." That "record number"
> > is slightly over 33%. Admittedly, that is WAY up from only a few
> > years ago, when only 8% of Americans held passports (and thus
> > were even *able* to see what life was like in other countries),
> > but now you need a passport to even go to Canada or Mexico,
> > so that accounts for much of the increase. (You don't need a
> > US passport to get *into* either Canada or Mexico, BTW...you
> > need one to get back into your own country...that's the kind of
> > insular mentality that America lives with these days.)
> > 
> > Americans -- 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Richard J. Williams]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > Its just part of life for a lot of people here. My old 
> > man used to keep a loaded .357 Magnum on his bureau. 
> > We never shot nobody with it though. 
> 
> It's an incredible blind spot for many people. Their
> whole "American mythos" keeps them from noticing it
> and how insane it is. Unless you live in "bear country"
> (the only North American animal that would require a 
> .357 magnum to take it down), the *only* reason to 
> own a gun like that is to *kill people*.
>
Fuk you Barry, Rama was a Black Belt ~ he could take 
You down easy.

> I think I've mentioned here a friend from Santa Fe who
> is a classic example of this "blind spot." In person
> he's just the nicest guy in the world -- a talented 
> guitarist and folk singer, loving father and husband,
> etc. He *does* have a tendency to get monotopical about
> Libertarianism, which is why I have had to block his
> posts on some forums we share. He was also a Divinity
> student in his youth, and almost became a preacher. 
> 
> But he owns over forty (40) guns. Some of them have 
> been converted to full auto. In fact, he has over half
> of them wrapped in oilcloth and buried in a trunk some-
> where secret, in preparation for the day when "The
> guvmint will come to get my other guns." Go figure. 
> 
> > 
> >  From: salyavin808 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:02 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
> >  
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Has *anyone* in America stopped to ponder whether the problem
> > > > here is easy availability of guns rather than race or whatever
> > > problems?
> > > >
> > > > Seems likely that if you couldn't get hold of 9mm pistols at the
> > > > corner shop this situation might have amounted to a bit of arguing
> > > > and not much more. When everyone is scared that everyone else is
> > > > armed people are bound to be be a bit spikier.
> > > >
> > > > I hear they have armed guards at primary schools now. What the
> > > > fuck is wrong with your country?
> > > 
> > > It's a kind of collective "me first" insanity, bred of seeing too
> > > many cowboy/cop movies, believing in too many of America's
> > > myths, and never having been exposed to other, more civilized
> > > countries and societies.
> > > 
> > > The Bureau of Consular Affairs now *brags* that a "record
> > > number of Americans now hold passports." That "record number"
> > > is slightly over 33%. Admittedly, that is WAY up from only a few
> > > years ago, when only 8% of Americans held passports (and thus
> > > were even *able* to see what life was like in other countries),
> > > but now you need a passport to even go to Canada or Mexico,
> > > so that accounts for much of the increase. (You don't need a
> > > US passport to get *into* either Canada or Mexico, BTW...you
> > > need one to get back into your own country...that's the kind of
> > > insular mentality that America lives with these days.)
> > > 
> > > Americans -- for the most part -- have never had the experience
> > > of being able to walk safely after dark almost *anywhere*, as I
> > > have done in France, in Spain, in the Netherlands, and in many
> > > other countries in the years since I kissed America goodbye. They
> > > don't know what it *feels* like to live in a society in which random
> > > violence is not an ever-present possibility.
> > > 
> > > And they actually *believe* that totin' a gun will make them safer.
> > > The facts are somewhat different. The states with the highest gun
> > > ownership have a gun murder rate 114% higher than those with
> > > the lowest gun ownership. The number of mass shootings stopped
> > > by gun-toting civilians in the last thirty years is ZERO. For every
> > > time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults
> > > or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns
> > > in or around the home. 43% of homes with guns and kids leave
> > > their guns unlocked, and in one experiment, 1/3 of 8-12-year-old
> > > kids who found a handgun pulled the trigger.
> > 
> > Very interesting.
> > 
> > I saw a shocking documentary about the youngest kid in jail in
> > the US for life without parole (12) after he helped a friend kill
> > his stepdad. What a waste of lives but amidst all the handwringing from 
> > police, neighbours and family, *not one* person stopped to
> > wonder whether keeping two loaded pistols in an unlocked kitchen drawer was 
> > a bad idea. It's like some weird blind spot that was 
> > so taken for granted it wasn't even considered. It's just what 
> > they all do.
> > 
> > I wonder how England would be if guns were freely available?
> > We like to import ever

Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]

[Share Long]

Well Emily as my dear old Pappy says about ASSume: make an ass of u and me. 
Now, about that apology* of yours, were you saying: Share, I apologize for 
saying you were in a dishonest space this time. I meant it in a general way. 


*My apologies Share - none of 
my business.  I often don't understand what you write, by the way, and 
particularly so when you are reactively writing.  It shows up in your 
sentence structure.  My observation around your behavior was a general 
one related to your tendency when you write what I term "revenge posts."  I 
have my own behavior to be accountable for, so will leave you to 
yours.  



 From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
[was Re: Four for Share]
 


  
Golly gee wiz.I think these comebacks may fall under the topic of "How 
Share Got Her Groove Back."  

P.S.  Share, assume I'm smiling in a friendly way at you right now :) :) :)



 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
[was Re: Four for Share]
 


  
Ann, always so good at connotations. Hey, what's a good one for voyeuristic 
tendencies?




 From: Ann 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:43 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was 
Re: Four for Share]
 


  
What a fascinating study in human nature to find you aligned so nicely with 
Barry these days. Interesting bedfellows.





 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Emily Reyn]

Can't Richard - I don't own a gun.  



 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 7:17 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Yep, I like this.  Common sense.  
> 
> Mike, you done gone off the deep end on this and you misspelled his name.  
> "Matthew Shepard" was his name.  You sound both racist and homophobic 
> yourself. 

According to Rachel, Treyvon was a homophobe. Just shoot me!

 
> 
> On the night of October 6â€"7, 1998, Shepard met Aaron McKinney and Russell 
> Henderson for the first time at the Fireside Lounge in Laramie, 
> Wyoming.[7][8] It was decided that McKinney and Henderson would give Shepard 
> a ride home.[9] McKinney and Henderson subsequently drove the car to a 
> remote, rural area and proceeded to rob, pistol-whip, and torture Shepard, 
> tying him to a fence and leaving him to die. According to their court 
> testimony, McKinney and Henderson also discovered his address and intended to 
> steal from his home. Still tied to the fence, Shepard, who was still alive 
> but in a coma, was discovered 18 hours later by Aaron Kreifels, a cyclist who 
> initially mistook Shepard for a scarecrow.[10]
> Shepard had suffered fractures to the back of his head and in front of his 
> right ear. He experienced severe brainstem damage, which affected his body's 
> ability to regulate heart rate, body temperature, and other vital functions. 
> There were also about a dozen small lacerations around his head, face, and 
> neck. His injuries were deemed too severe for doctors to operate. Shepard 
> never regained consciousness and remained on full life support. While he lay 
> in intensive care, candlelight vigils were held by the people of Laramie.[11]
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Duveyoung 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:26 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
> 
> 
> 
>   
> Cenk nails this issue. 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtcveaMUJSI&list=SPTpcK80irdQidhuTjXxQZNThuoGPeWjT0&feature=player_detailpage
>  
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
> > see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
> > Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . 
> > She said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a 
> > homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by 
> > Zimmerman following him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home 
> > because his little brother was there and might... It's looking more like 
> > Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin 
> > intended to beat the snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. 
> > Zimmerman took a pounding for 45 seconds and then fired in self defense. 
> > In short, Trayvon's homophobia killed him.
> >
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Richard J. Williams]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Yep, I like this.  Common sense.  
> 
> Mike, you done gone off the deep end on this and you misspelled his name.  
> "Matthew Shepard" was his name.  You sound both racist and homophobic 
> yourself. 

According to Rachel, Treyvon was a homophobe. Just shoot me!

 
> 
> On the night of October 6â€"7, 1998, Shepard met Aaron McKinney and Russell 
> Henderson for the first time at the Fireside Lounge in Laramie, 
> Wyoming.[7][8] It was decided that McKinney and Henderson would give Shepard 
> a ride home.[9] McKinney and Henderson subsequently drove the car to a 
> remote, rural area and proceeded to rob, pistol-whip, and torture Shepard, 
> tying him to a fence and leaving him to die. According to their court 
> testimony, McKinney and Henderson also discovered his address and intended to 
> steal from his home. Still tied to the fence, Shepard, who was still alive 
> but in a coma, was discovered 18 hours later by Aaron Kreifels, a cyclist who 
> initially mistook Shepard for a scarecrow.[10]
> Shepard had suffered fractures to the back of his head and in front of his 
> right ear. He experienced severe brainstem damage, which affected his body's 
> ability to regulate heart rate, body temperature, and other vital functions. 
> There were also about a dozen small lacerations around his head, face, and 
> neck. His injuries were deemed too severe for doctors to operate. Shepard 
> never regained consciousness and remained on full life support. While he lay 
> in intensive care, candlelight vigils were held by the people of Laramie.[11]
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Duveyoung 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:26 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
>  
> 
> 
>   
> Cenk nails this issue. 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtcveaMUJSI&list=SPTpcK80irdQidhuTjXxQZNThuoGPeWjT0&feature=player_detailpage
>  
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
> > see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
> > Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . 
> > She said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a 
> > homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by 
> > Zimmerman following him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home 
> > because his little brother was there and might... It's looking more like 
> > Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin 
> > intended to beat the snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. 
> > Zimmerman took a pounding for 45 seconds and then fired in self defense. 
> > In short, Trayvon's homophobia killed him.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Richard J. Williams]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> We'uns likes our guns.
> 
So, you'uns don't want to talk about the homophobe 
that started the fight and called Zimmerman a white
ass-cracker. Go figure.

> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: salyavin808 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:07 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> Has *anyone* in America stopped to ponder whether the problem here
> is easy availability of guns rather than race or whatever problems?
> 
> Seems likely that if you couldn't get hold of 9mm pistols at the
> corner shop this situation might have amounted to a bit of arguing
> and not much more. When everyone is scared that everyone else is
> armed people are bound to be be a bit spikier.
> 
> I hear they have armed guards at primary schools now. What the fuck
> is wrong with your country?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
> > see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
> > Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . 
> > She said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a 
> > homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by 
> > Zimmerman following him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home 
> > because his little brother was there and might... It's looking more like 
> > Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin 
> > intended to beat the snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. 
> > Zimmerman took a pounding for 45 seconds and then fired in self defense. 
> > In short, Trayvon's homophobia killed him.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: You guys like "scientific experiments," right?

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Try this one on for size, in between pontificating about
> Trayvon Martin and how "threatening" he was. A video crew 
> hires two actors to steal a bike chained to a pole along 
> a busy park path, while secretly filming the whole thing. 
> 
> The "experiment?" Both actors are dressed alike, both are
> clearly using burglar tools to steal the bike. But one 
> actor is white, and the other is black.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a-v2n62C9k
>

Fascinating, I'd have just shot them

[FairfieldLife] North Korea - winning the psych war?

[salyavin808]

Sabine is a YouTube user who, during a visit to family living in South Korea in 
April of this year, was given a DVD by a man and a woman claiming to be North 
Korean "defectors", and was asked to translate the film so it could be posted 
on the internet and reach a wider audience. What the DVD turned out to be was 
something much more than Sabine, or anyone else, probably would've imagined, 
and something that certainly has found a widespread audience on the internet 
over the last month or so – it was a film called "PROPAGANDA", a documentary 
about capitalism, imperialism, mass manipulation of western culture for the 
purpose of commodification, and how it permeates every aspect of the lives of 
blissfully ignorant, borderline zombie masses.

http://superchief.tv/leaked-north-korean-documentary-exposes-western-propaganda-and-its-scary-how-true-it-is/

Excerpt at top. whole movie at bottom.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of "on the rag"

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> WTF are you doing!??! Obsessing over this shit, *at work*?? 
> 
> OR you could
> read a headline, 
> take a piss, 
> get a coffee, 
> say hi to one of those interns, 
> tell your boss how great everything is going, 
> rearrange your cube drawer, 
> clean your fingernails, 
> look out the window, 
> go for a quick stroll, in natural light, 
> close your eyes and rest, 
> make a funny face secretly to yourself. 
> 
> Seriously, get a life.

Doc, we ARE his life.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Stuck here waiting for a software build that takes a while, 
> > unable to work until it completes, I thought I'd do five 
> > minutes of Yahoo Searching to illustrate my point lately
> > that Ann, more than any other of Judy's minions, has become
> > pretty much monotopical in her ongoing negativity. Like Judy,
> > she doesn't seem capable of *recognizing* this trend in 
> > herself, but a quick scan of her 35 posts so far this week
> > kinda reveals the trend.
> > 
> > Ann's "on the rag" posts this week that contained slams 
> > against people she doesn't like (there can be some dupli-
> > cation in these totals, in that she often slammed more 
> > than one of her "enemies" in the same post):
> > - ragging on Share: 1 11 (7)
> > - ragging on Barry: 1 1 1 1 11 (22)
> > - ragging on Seraphita: 1 1 (6)
> > - ragging on Susan: 11 (2)
> > - ragging on the author of an article mentioned by Barry: 1
> > 
> > Ann's "content" (meaning "non-slam") posts this week consisted of:
> > - one nice post about Snowmass to Steve
> > - one post congratulating Raunchy for ragging effectively :-)
> > - two posts congratulating Ravi for ragging effectively :-)
> > - one post full of platitudes about the Zimmerman case
> > - one post liking a Walt Whitman poem that was posted 
> > by...uh...someone else
> > 
> > I could undoubtedly come up with similar numbers for Judy's
> > 46 posts this week, but why bother? Neither of these women
> > seems *capable* of recognizing their own behavioral trends,
> > and thus of being able to correct them in any way. 
> > 
> > My point is that I suspect that the two of them spend almost 
> > ALL of their time on Fairfield Life ragging on other people 
> > BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.
> > 
> > I invite either or both of them to dispute this by providing
> > a complete list of posts (*including* the URLs to them) they 
> > have made on FFL during the last month that did NOT -- 
> > anywhere in the post -- contain a putdown, insult, or slam 
> > against one of their regular "enemies." 
> > 
> > I predict no reply. All they can do is *claim* that they
> > post other things. When asked to produce them, they can't.
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] You guys like "scientific experiments," right?

[Emily Reyn]

This video is a good one; reflects reality of the unconscious bias in play.  Of 
course, the bias goes in both directions.  



 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:26 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] You guys like "scientific experiments," right?
 


  
Try this one on for size, in between pontificating about
Trayvon Martin and how "threatening" he was. A video crew 
hires two actors to steal a bike chained to a pole along 
a busy park path, while secretly filming the whole thing. 

The "experiment?" Both actors are dressed alike, both are
clearly using burglar tools to steal the bike. But one 
actor is white, and the other is black.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a-v2n62C9k


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of "on the rag"

[Ann]

God Barry, you DO think about me an awful lot. It's getting a little creepy. 
Back off for a while, could ya'? Everything I do I feel your eyes on me (or at 
least every one of my posts), every time I go to write something I know you are 
waiting in the wings to read it, eagerly. Now you're writing about me 
constantly. Relating everything I do to what you are thinking and doing. Do you 
dream about me too? You don't have a small butt do you??

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Stuck here waiting for a software build that takes a while, 
> unable to work until it completes, I thought I'd do five 
> minutes of Yahoo Searching to illustrate my point lately
> that Ann, more than any other of Judy's minions, has become
> pretty much monotopical in her ongoing negativity. Like Judy,
> she doesn't seem capable of *recognizing* this trend in 
> herself, but a quick scan of her 35 posts so far this week
> kinda reveals the trend.
> 
> Ann's "on the rag" posts this week that contained slams 
> against people she doesn't like (there can be some dupli-
> cation in these totals, in that she often slammed more 
> than one of her "enemies" in the same post):
> - ragging on Share: 1 11 (7)
> - ragging on Barry: 1 1 1 1 11 (22)
> - ragging on Seraphita: 1 1 (6)
> - ragging on Susan: 11 (2)
> - ragging on the author of an article mentioned by Barry: 1
> 
> Ann's "content" (meaning "non-slam") posts this week consisted of:
> - one nice post about Snowmass to Steve
> - one post congratulating Raunchy for ragging effectively :-)
> - two posts congratulating Ravi for ragging effectively :-)
> - one post full of platitudes about the Zimmerman case
> - one post liking a Walt Whitman poem that was posted 
> by...uh...someone else
> 
> I could undoubtedly come up with similar numbers for Judy's
> 46 posts this week, but why bother? Neither of these women
> seems *capable* of recognizing their own behavioral trends,
> and thus of being able to correct them in any way. 
> 
> My point is that I suspect that the two of them spend almost 
> ALL of their time on Fairfield Life ragging on other people 
> BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.
> 
> I invite either or both of them to dispute this by providing
> a complete list of posts (*including* the URLs to them) they 
> have made on FFL during the last month that did NOT -- 
> anywhere in the post -- contain a putdown, insult, or slam 
> against one of their regular "enemies." 
> 
> I predict no reply. All they can do is *claim* that they
> post other things. When asked to produce them, they can't.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> Has *anyone* in America stopped to ponder whether the problem here
> is easy availability of guns rather than race or whatever problems?
> 
> Seems likely that if you couldn't get hold of 9mm pistols at the
> corner shop this situation might have amounted to a bit of arguing
> and not much more. When everyone is scared that everyone else is
> armed people are bound to be be a bit spikier.
> 
> I hear they have armed guards at primary schools now. What the fuck
> is wrong with your country?

Amen, but to be fair there are a whole lot of people in the US of A who are 
firmly against gun ownership. I only know one person in my entire life growing 
up in the States who owned a gun and they were a German family. No one in my 
family now or then would have dreamed of wanting or needing a firearm. It is a 
completely alien and foreign concept to me.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
> > see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
> > Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . 
> > She said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a 
> > homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by 
> > Zimmerman following him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home 
> > because his little brother was there and might... It's looking more like 
> > Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin 
> > intended to beat the snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. 
> > Zimmerman took a pounding for 45 seconds and then fired in self defense. In 
> > short, Trayvon's homophobia killed him.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Excellent, Share. There really IS a resemblance, isn't there...in
> more ways than one.  :-)
> 
> But isn't it fascinating that the Ann-bot is following in her
> role model's footsteps by making suggestions about the deep,
> dark, secret meaning of us liking a movie that is now #1 at
> the box office in the US, the UK, France, and most other
> countries in which it opened? We -- the two people she has
> a rather obvious near-villainous obsession about herself,
> and who she spends almost all of her posts to FFL trying to
> "get" -- like the film because it's got "despicable" in the title,
> and we identify.  :-)

No Barry, I did not include Share in this, only you. And you took it SERIOUSLY 
- hilarious. That was such an obvious half-baked "psychological" assessment 
that the entire readership of FFL are shaking their heads at the preposterous 
nature of this paragraph above. I doubt even Share thought I was being serious 
when I claimed you were inwardly acknowledging you are "despicable"; you aren't 
capable of this, EVERYONE knows THAT.
> 
> Next, Judy will hop on this bandwagon and -- without having
> seen either of the films -- will write a long review of both
> films, Apocalypto-style, badmouthing them and declaring
> that the directors (who are both  French, y'know) are
> secretly trying to convert everyone in the world into the
> joys of EVIL. They have, after all, created two films in which
> the *heroes* are really not only villains, but *supervillains*!
> And they're getting kids (and their poor, duped parents,
> dragged along to the theaters) to *laugh* at these super-
> villains. It's a fiendish PLOT!  It's all designed to keep
> people from perceiving "Reality," which is of course defined
> as "How we see things."  :-)
> 
> More seriously, wouldn't seeing *either* of these films do
> *both* of them a world of good? Try to imagine them sitting
> there trying to keep those classic mean old spinster scowls
> on their faces while watching Agnes, and Gru, and Lucy,
> and above all the minions cavort around.  :-)

Are you kidding, I have only seen the first film but it is bloody brilliant, 
loved every bit of it. You, who claim to know me Barry, haven't the foggiest 
clue.

> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > tee hee, turq I think I've found Gru's mother right here on FFL!
> >
> 
> > 
> >  From: authfriend authfriend@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private
> emails [was Re: Four for Share]
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > And yet here you are Judy, wasting one of your few remaining posts
> to reply to alleged gibberish?! Go figure! IOW, methinks the lady doth
> protest too much (-:
> >
> > Translation: "Oh, shit, I screwed up *again*! She must
> > not have meant whatever it was I thought she meant--*I*
> > can't even figure out what I had in mind now, but I was
> > sure it was going to just SMITE the bitch and I was
> > going to *win* one for once to show my pastoral counselor.
> > Well, I'll just have to try to brazen it out as I usually
> > do when I foul up, although sometimes I have the scary
> > feeling that maybe I'm not all that convincing. No, no,
> > I can't think about that or I'll go crazy...I can't bear
> > that much reality. Somebody, HELP MEEE!!"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 
> > >  From: authfriend authfriend@
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:06 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private
> emails [was Re: Four for Share]
> > >
> > > Does anybody have *any* idea what the loon's problem is?
> > > Both of her posts have been complete gibberish.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Emily, excerpted from Judy's post to which I was referring:
> Whatever he may have said or not said to you in private weeks
> ago..."There is no basis for you to demand behind-the-scenes
> negotiations. So your use of *dishonest place* doesn't make sense to me!
> > > >
> > > >  From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@
> > > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:42 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's
> private emails [was Re: Four for Share]
> > > >
> > > > snip
> > > > Also, Share, nothing you said here makes any sense at all.
>  Just an observation for you.  Every time
> you sink into some kind of revenge post - it backfires on you because
> you can't think clearly from a dishonest place.  
> ÂÂÂ
> > > >
> > > > On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Ravi and Doc, yep funny how Judy and others referred 

[FairfieldLife] You guys like "scientific experiments," right?

[turquoiseb]

Try this one on for size, in between pontificating about
Trayvon Martin and how "threatening" he was. A video crew 
hires two actors to steal a bike chained to a pole along 
a busy park path, while secretly filming the whole thing. 

The "experiment?" Both actors are dressed alike, both are
clearly using burglar tools to steal the bike. But one 
actor is white, and the other is black.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a-v2n62C9k

Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]

[Emily Reyn]

Golly gee wiz.I think these comebacks may fall under the topic of "How 
Share Got Her Groove Back."  

P.S.  Share, assume I'm smiling in a friendly way at you right now :) :) :)



 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
[was Re: Four for Share]
 


  
Ann, always so good at connotations. Hey, what's a good one for voyeuristic 
tendencies?




 From: Ann 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:43 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was 
Re: Four for Share]
 


  
What a fascinating study in human nature to find you aligned so nicely with 
Barry these days. Interesting bedfellows.



 

[FairfieldLife] Sorry: miracle cameraphone... : ]

[card]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/15/nokia_lumia_1020_technical_walkthrough/

Special Report These days, "tech" means anything except technology. The word 
has become so debased that a group of marketing people talking about their 
ideas for websites are a "tech scene". And hosting meetings for marketing 
people to talk about websites in London in 2013 actually makes you a "tech 
entrepreneur". The concerns of real engineering innovators take second place to 
the needs of the Magic Roundabout.

So it's almost shocking in 2013 to see real engineers pushing the limits and 
producing something with the capacity to startle.

Last week we saw one of Europe's biggest tech companies, Nokia, do just that, 
with its Lumia 1020 phone. The device breaks several barriers for miniature 
cameras, and it's the convergence of several technology projects that only a 
large company with an expensive, long term R&D engineering commitment could 
undertake. It's the miniaturisation that's the deal here. It's so extreme, it's 
quite hard to comprehend. It's utterly insane.

You'll know that without the constraints of cost and space, great things are 
still possible. For example, the 50 megapixel Hasselblad H3D-50 (pdf) takes 
superb photos – as you can see in this spread.

But it comes with a base price of £20,000 and it weighs 2.3kg – the larger 
lenses you'll need will cost you more and weigh more too. Similarly, if space 
is not a serious constraint, then every camera would use optical zoom.

Nokia's engineers operate within very demanding cost and space constraints. 
Nokia is not making a standalone camera, but a tiny unit that must conform to 
the price and size constraints of the phone market, a market which will not buy 
bulky or freakish designs in significant numbers.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Richard J. Williams]

 Its just part of life for a lot of people here. My 
> old man used to keep a loaded .357 Magnum on his 
> bureau. We never shot nobody with it though. 
>
So, you don't want to talk about the homophobe that
attacked George Zimmerman. Go figure.

It's probably against the law to leave a loaded gun
where children could have access to it. But, if you
knew where it was would you use it for self-defense?

The opposition to private gun ownership looks more 
and more like traditional anti-gay sentiment: not a 
reason-based policy, but something growing out of 
prejudice.

"...if you look at things from a libertarian 
perspective instead, it's all perfectly consistent 
— the freedoms of gun owners being of a piece with 
the freedoms of migrants and pot smokers and gay 
couples — and an indication that the Democrats are 
simply becoming more culturally libertarian across 
the board."

http://douthat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/23/the-liberaltarian-democrats/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Its just part of life for a lot of people here. My old 
> man used to keep a loaded .357 Magnum on his bureau. 
> We never shot nobody with it though. 

It's an incredible blind spot for many people. Their
whole "American mythos" keeps them from noticing it
and how insane it is. Unless you live in "bear country"
(the only North American animal that would require a 
.357 magnum to take it down), the *only* reason to 
own a gun like that is to *kill people*.

I think I've mentioned here a friend from Santa Fe who
is a classic example of this "blind spot." In person
he's just the nicest guy in the world -- a talented 
guitarist and folk singer, loving father and husband,
etc. He *does* have a tendency to get monotopical about
Libertarianism, which is why I have had to block his
posts on some forums we share. He was also a Divinity
student in his youth, and almost became a preacher. 

But he owns over forty (40) guns. Some of them have 
been converted to full auto. In fact, he has over half
of them wrapped in oilcloth and buried in a trunk some-
where secret, in preparation for the day when "The
guvmint will come to get my other guns." Go figure. 

> 
>  From: salyavin808 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:02 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
>  
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Has *anyone* in America stopped to ponder whether the problem
> > > here is easy availability of guns rather than race or whatever
> > problems?
> > >
> > > Seems likely that if you couldn't get hold of 9mm pistols at the
> > > corner shop this situation might have amounted to a bit of arguing
> > > and not much more. When everyone is scared that everyone else is
> > > armed people are bound to be be a bit spikier.
> > >
> > > I hear they have armed guards at primary schools now. What the
> > > fuck is wrong with your country?
> > 
> > It's a kind of collective "me first" insanity, bred of seeing too
> > many cowboy/cop movies, believing in too many of America's
> > myths, and never having been exposed to other, more civilized
> > countries and societies.
> > 
> > The Bureau of Consular Affairs now *brags* that a "record
> > number of Americans now hold passports." That "record number"
> > is slightly over 33%. Admittedly, that is WAY up from only a few
> > years ago, when only 8% of Americans held passports (and thus
> > were even *able* to see what life was like in other countries),
> > but now you need a passport to even go to Canada or Mexico,
> > so that accounts for much of the increase. (You don't need a
> > US passport to get *into* either Canada or Mexico, BTW...you
> > need one to get back into your own country...that's the kind of
> > insular mentality that America lives with these days.)
> > 
> > Americans -- for the most part -- have never had the experience
> > of being able to walk safely after dark almost *anywhere*, as I
> > have done in France, in Spain, in the Netherlands, and in many
> > other countries in the years since I kissed America goodbye. They
> > don't know what it *feels* like to live in a society in which random
> > violence is not an ever-present possibility.
> > 
> > And they actually *believe* that totin' a gun will make them safer.
> > The facts are somewhat different. The states with the highest gun
> > ownership have a gun murder rate 114% higher than those with
> > the lowest gun ownership. The number of mass shootings stopped
> > by gun-toting civilians in the last thirty years is ZERO. For every
> > time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults
> > or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns
> > in or around the home. 43% of homes with guns and kids leave
> > their guns unlocked, and in one experiment, 1/3 of 8-12-year-old
> > kids who found a handgun pulled the trigger.
> 
> Very interesting.
> 
> I saw a shocking documentary about the youngest kid in jail in
> the US for life without parole (12) after he helped a friend kill
> his stepdad. What a waste of lives but amidst all the handwringing from 
> police, neighbours and family, *not one* person stopped to
> wonder whether keeping two loaded pistols in an unlocked kitchen drawer was a 
> bad idea. It's like some weird blind spot that was 
> so taken for granted it wasn't even considered. It's just what 
> they all do.
> 
> I wonder how England would be if guns were freely available?
> We like to import everything else from the US: TV, shit food,
> unfair business practises etc. So why not a liberal attitude
> to weapons of mass destruction, how long would it take before
> we're popping caps like it's some sort of solution?
> 
> Or would we be like Canada which, as I understand it, has
> as many guns per person as the US but 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Michael Jackson]

Its just part of life for a lot of people here. My old man used to keep a 
loaded .357 Magnum on his bureau. We never shot nobody with it though. 





 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:02 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > Has *anyone* in America stopped to ponder whether the problem
> > here is easy availability of guns rather than race or whatever
> problems?
> >
> > Seems likely that if you couldn't get hold of 9mm pistols at the
> > corner shop this situation might have amounted to a bit of arguing
> > and not much more. When everyone is scared that everyone else is
> > armed people are bound to be be a bit spikier.
> >
> > I hear they have armed guards at primary schools now. What the
> > fuck is wrong with your country?
> 
> It's a kind of collective "me first" insanity, bred of seeing too
> many cowboy/cop movies, believing in too many of America's
> myths, and never having been exposed to other, more civilized
> countries and societies.
> 
> The Bureau of Consular Affairs now *brags* that a "record
> number of Americans now hold passports." That "record number"
> is slightly over 33%. Admittedly, that is WAY up from only a few
> years ago, when only 8% of Americans held passports (and thus
> were even *able* to see what life was like in other countries),
> but now you need a passport to even go to Canada or Mexico,
> so that accounts for much of the increase. (You don't need a
> US passport to get *into* either Canada or Mexico, BTW...you
> need one to get back into your own country...that's the kind of
> insular mentality that America lives with these days.)
> 
> Americans -- for the most part -- have never had the experience
> of being able to walk safely after dark almost *anywhere*, as I
> have done in France, in Spain, in the Netherlands, and in many
> other countries in the years since I kissed America goodbye. They
> don't know what it *feels* like to live in a society in which random
> violence is not an ever-present possibility.
> 
> And they actually *believe* that totin' a gun will make them safer.
> The facts are somewhat different. The states with the highest gun
> ownership have a gun murder rate 114% higher than those with
> the lowest gun ownership. The number of mass shootings stopped
> by gun-toting civilians in the last thirty years is ZERO. For every
> time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults
> or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns
> in or around the home. 43% of homes with guns and kids leave
> their guns unlocked, and in one experiment, 1/3 of 8-12-year-old
> kids who found a handgun pulled the trigger.

Very interesting.

I saw a shocking documentary about the youngest kid in jail in
the US for life without parole (12) after he helped a friend kill
his stepdad. What a waste of lives but amidst all the handwringing from police, 
neighbours and family, *not one* person stopped to
wonder whether keeping two loaded pistols in an unlocked kitchen drawer was a 
bad idea. It's like some weird blind spot that was 
so taken for granted it wasn't even considered. It's just what 
they all do.

I wonder how England would be if guns were freely available?
We like to import everything else from the US: TV, shit food,
unfair business practises etc. So why not a liberal attitude
to weapons of mass destruction, how long would it take before
we're popping caps like it's some sort of solution?

Or would we be like Canada which, as I understand it, has
as many guns per person as the US but a much lower murder
rate?

> In 2011, nearly 10 times more people were shot and killed in argu-
> ments than by civilians trying to stop a crime. One study found
> that the odds of an assault victim being shot were 4.5X greater
> if he carried a gun, and his odds of being killed were 4.2X greater.
> 
> http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/pro-gun-myths-fact-check
> 
> 
> The last time I was in America (back in Santa Fe to renew
> documents), out of curiosity I dropped in to a local gun show.
> I was offered handguns, rifles, shotguns, and in four cases
> semi-automatic rifles that had been converted to full automatic
> (e.g., machine guns) *over the counter*. I would have had to
> show no ID, and no "background checks" would have been
> performed. If I had bought them, I would have walked out of
> the show fully equipped to become a mass murderer, requiring
> only a short stop at Walmart to stock up on ammo first.

Unbelievable. To me. 

> America is not only an insane asylum, its inmates are armed.

I blame this constitution thing...

> 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote:
> > >
> > > L

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Michael Jackson]

We'uns likes our guns.





 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:07 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 


  

Has *anyone* in America stopped to ponder whether the problem here
is easy availability of guns rather than race or whatever problems?

Seems likely that if you couldn't get hold of 9mm pistols at the
corner shop this situation might have amounted to a bit of arguing
and not much more. When everyone is scared that everyone else is
armed people are bound to be be a bit spikier.

I hear they have armed guards at primary schools now. What the fuck
is wrong with your country?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
> see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
> Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . She 
> said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a homosexual 
> rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by Zimmerman following 
> him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home because his little 
> brother was there and might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended to 
> give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the 
> snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 
> 45 seconds and then fired in self defense. In short, Trayvon's homophobia 
> killed him.
>


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[Share Long]

Horrifying stats, turq but good to know so thanks for posting. Closest I've 
gotten to gun culture is finding out that my step Mom has a handgun. Her 
daughter, my half sister, has even taken lessons! Ok, I sort of understand in 
the former case because my Dad travels and they live in a wooded area and are 
obviously wealthy and she's in her 80s. But I wonder if she's ever considered 
the possibility that one of the great-grandkids might accidently find that gun 
and cause a tragedy.  


PS Was also horrified, though in a different way, by Wendy's subliminal 
advertising. Wonder if they'll change it now that the cat is out of the bag.  



 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:48 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> Has *anyone* in America stopped to ponder whether the problem 
> here is easy availability of guns rather than race or whatever problems?

And they actually *believe* that totin' a gun will make them safer.
The facts are somewhat different. The states with the highest gun
ownership have a gun murder rate 114% higher than those with
the lowest gun ownership. The number of mass shootings stopped
by gun-toting civilians in the last thirty years is ZERO. For every 
time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults
or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns 
in or around the home. 43% of homes with guns and kids leave
their guns unlocked, and in one experiment, 1/3 of 8-12-year-old
kids who found a handgun pulled the trigger. 

In 2011, nearly 10 times more people were shot and killed in
 argu-
ments than by civilians trying to stop a crime. One study found 
that the odds of an assault victim being shot were 4.5X greater
if he carried a gun, and his odds of being killed were 4.2X greater.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/pro-gun-myths-fact-check 

The last time I was in America (back in Santa Fe to renew
documents), out of curiosity I dropped in to a local gun show. 
I was offered handguns, rifles, shotguns, and in four cases 
semi-automatic rifles that had been converted to full automatic 
(e.g., machine guns) *over the counter*. I would have had to 
show no ID, and no "background checks" would have been 
performed. If I had bought them, I would have walked out of 
the show fully equipped to become a mass murderer, requiring 
only a short stop at Walmart to stock up on
 ammo first. 

America is not only an insane asylum, its inmates are armed. 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]

[Share Long]

Ann, always so good at connotations. Hey, what's a good one for voyeuristic 
tendencies?




 From: Ann 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:43 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was 
Re: Four for Share]
 


  
What a fascinating study in human nature to find you aligned so nicely with 
Barry these days. Interesting bedfellows.

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]

[Share Long]

Judy! Reality is there in the Garden State?! I thought reality was here in the 
Heartland. Go figure! And have a nice day too (-:





 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:39 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was 
Re: Four for Share]
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> tee hee, turq I think I've found Gru's mother right here on FFL!

And you're still here, Share. Reality isn't going away.

> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
> [was Re: Four for Share]
> 
> 
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > And yet here you are Judy, wasting one of your few remaining posts to reply 
> > to alleged gibberish?! Go figure! IOW, methinks the lady doth protest too 
> > much (-:
> 
> Translation: "Oh, shit, I screwed up *again*! She must
> not have meant whatever it was I thought she meant--*I*
> can't even figure out what I had in mind now, but I was
> sure it was going to just SMITE the bitch and I was
> going to *win* one for once to show my pastoral counselor.
> Well, I'll just have to try to brazen it out as I usually
> do when I foul up, although sometimes I have the scary
> feeling that maybe I'm not all that convincing. No, no,
> I can't think about that or I'll go crazy...I can't bear
> that much reality. Somebody, HELP MEEE!!"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> >  From: authfriend authfriend@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:06 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
> > [was Re: Four for Share]
> > 
> > Does anybody have *any* idea what the loon's problem is?
> > Both of her posts have been complete gibberish.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Emily, excerpted from Judy's post to which I was referring: Whatever he 
> > > may have said or not said to you in private weeks ago..."There is no 
> > > basis for you to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. So your use of 
> > > *dishonest place* doesn't make sense to me! 
> > > 
> > >  From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@
> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:42 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private 
> > > emails [was Re: Four for Share]
> > > 
> > > snip
> > > Also, Share, nothing you said here makes any sense at all.  Just 
> > > an observation for you.  Every time you sink into some kind of 
> > > revenge post - it backfires on you because you can't think clearly from a 
> > > dishonest place.    
> > > 
> > > On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> > > 
> > > >Ravi and Doc, yep funny how Judy and others referred to Robin's emails 
> > > >to me as private whereas when she referred to my alleged demands for 
> > > >such, she used the term behind the scenes. So, Robin sends private 
> > > >emails to Share but Share *demands* emails that are *behind the scenes* 
> > > >Go figure!
> > > >
> > > >Here's an editorial exercise exploring connotations by reversing Judy's 
> > > >wordings:
> > > >Last month Robin emailed Share *behind the scenes.* AND 
> > > >Share has demanded that
> > >  the upsets between her and Robin be discussed via private
> > >  emails. Private and demanded being Judy's word
> > >  choices.
> > > >
> > > >Share says: I have requested that Robin and I discuss our upsets via 
> > > >direct, offline emails.
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of "on the rag"

[doctordumbass]

Also, be aware that a sys. admin. can pull up all the websites you visit, and 
duration online, and print a report, with a click of a mouse, these days. No 
more hex matching and filtering. All done automagically.

Sincerely, 
Your loving corporate overlords

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> WTF are you doing!??! Obsessing over this shit, *at work*?? 
> 
> OR you could
> read a headline, 
> take a piss, 
> get a coffee, 
> say hi to one of those interns, 
> tell your boss how great everything is going, 
> rearrange your cube drawer, 
> clean your fingernails, 
> look out the window, 
> go for a quick stroll, in natural light, 
> close your eyes and rest, 
> make a funny face secretly to yourself. 
> 
> Seriously, get a life.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Stuck here waiting for a software build that takes a while, 
> > unable to work until it completes, I thought I'd do five 
> > minutes of Yahoo Searching to illustrate my point lately
> > that Ann, more than any other of Judy's minions, has become
> > pretty much monotopical in her ongoing negativity. Like Judy,
> > she doesn't seem capable of *recognizing* this trend in 
> > herself, but a quick scan of her 35 posts so far this week
> > kinda reveals the trend.
> > 
> > Ann's "on the rag" posts this week that contained slams 
> > against people she doesn't like (there can be some dupli-
> > cation in these totals, in that she often slammed more 
> > than one of her "enemies" in the same post):
> > - ragging on Share: 1 11 (7)
> > - ragging on Barry: 1 1 1 1 11 (22)
> > - ragging on Seraphita: 1 1 (6)
> > - ragging on Susan: 11 (2)
> > - ragging on the author of an article mentioned by Barry: 1
> > 
> > Ann's "content" (meaning "non-slam") posts this week consisted of:
> > - one nice post about Snowmass to Steve
> > - one post congratulating Raunchy for ragging effectively :-)
> > - two posts congratulating Ravi for ragging effectively :-)
> > - one post full of platitudes about the Zimmerman case
> > - one post liking a Walt Whitman poem that was posted 
> > by...uh...someone else
> > 
> > I could undoubtedly come up with similar numbers for Judy's
> > 46 posts this week, but why bother? Neither of these women
> > seems *capable* of recognizing their own behavioral trends,
> > and thus of being able to correct them in any way. 
> > 
> > My point is that I suspect that the two of them spend almost 
> > ALL of their time on Fairfield Life ragging on other people 
> > BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.
> > 
> > I invite either or both of them to dispute this by providing
> > a complete list of posts (*including* the URLs to them) they 
> > have made on FFL during the last month that did NOT -- 
> > anywhere in the post -- contain a putdown, insult, or slam 
> > against one of their regular "enemies." 
> > 
> > I predict no reply. All they can do is *claim* that they
> > post other things. When asked to produce them, they can't.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of "on the rag"

[doctordumbass]

WTF are you doing!??! Obsessing over this shit, *at work*?? 

OR you could
read a headline, 
take a piss, 
get a coffee, 
say hi to one of those interns, 
tell your boss how great everything is going, 
rearrange your cube drawer, 
clean your fingernails, 
look out the window, 
go for a quick stroll, in natural light, 
close your eyes and rest, 
make a funny face secretly to yourself. 

Seriously, get a life.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Stuck here waiting for a software build that takes a while, 
> unable to work until it completes, I thought I'd do five 
> minutes of Yahoo Searching to illustrate my point lately
> that Ann, more than any other of Judy's minions, has become
> pretty much monotopical in her ongoing negativity. Like Judy,
> she doesn't seem capable of *recognizing* this trend in 
> herself, but a quick scan of her 35 posts so far this week
> kinda reveals the trend.
> 
> Ann's "on the rag" posts this week that contained slams 
> against people she doesn't like (there can be some dupli-
> cation in these totals, in that she often slammed more 
> than one of her "enemies" in the same post):
> - ragging on Share: 1 11 (7)
> - ragging on Barry: 1 1 1 1 11 (22)
> - ragging on Seraphita: 1 1 (6)
> - ragging on Susan: 11 (2)
> - ragging on the author of an article mentioned by Barry: 1
> 
> Ann's "content" (meaning "non-slam") posts this week consisted of:
> - one nice post about Snowmass to Steve
> - one post congratulating Raunchy for ragging effectively :-)
> - two posts congratulating Ravi for ragging effectively :-)
> - one post full of platitudes about the Zimmerman case
> - one post liking a Walt Whitman poem that was posted 
> by...uh...someone else
> 
> I could undoubtedly come up with similar numbers for Judy's
> 46 posts this week, but why bother? Neither of these women
> seems *capable* of recognizing their own behavioral trends,
> and thus of being able to correct them in any way. 
> 
> My point is that I suspect that the two of them spend almost 
> ALL of their time on Fairfield Life ragging on other people 
> BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.
> 
> I invite either or both of them to dispute this by providing
> a complete list of posts (*including* the URLs to them) they 
> have made on FFL during the last month that did NOT -- 
> anywhere in the post -- contain a putdown, insult, or slam 
> against one of their regular "enemies." 
> 
> I predict no reply. All they can do is *claim* that they
> post other things. When asked to produce them, they can't.
>

[FairfieldLife] A new definition of "on the rag"

[turquoiseb]

Stuck here waiting for a software build that takes a while, 
unable to work until it completes, I thought I'd do five 
minutes of Yahoo Searching to illustrate my point lately
that Ann, more than any other of Judy's minions, has become
pretty much monotopical in her ongoing negativity. Like Judy,
she doesn't seem capable of *recognizing* this trend in 
herself, but a quick scan of her 35 posts so far this week
kinda reveals the trend.

Ann's "on the rag" posts this week that contained slams 
against people she doesn't like (there can be some dupli-
cation in these totals, in that she often slammed more 
than one of her "enemies" in the same post):
- ragging on Share: 1 11 (7)
- ragging on Barry: 1 1 1 1 11 (22)
- ragging on Seraphita: 1 1 (6)
- ragging on Susan: 11 (2)
- ragging on the author of an article mentioned by Barry: 1

Ann's "content" (meaning "non-slam") posts this week consisted of:
- one nice post about Snowmass to Steve
- one post congratulating Raunchy for ragging effectively :-)
- two posts congratulating Ravi for ragging effectively :-)
- one post full of platitudes about the Zimmerman case
- one post liking a Walt Whitman poem that was posted 
by...uh...someone else

I could undoubtedly come up with similar numbers for Judy's
46 posts this week, but why bother? Neither of these women
seems *capable* of recognizing their own behavioral trends,
and thus of being able to correct them in any way. 

My point is that I suspect that the two of them spend almost 
ALL of their time on Fairfield Life ragging on other people 
BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.

I invite either or both of them to dispute this by providing
a complete list of posts (*including* the URLs to them) they 
have made on FFL during the last month that did NOT -- 
anywhere in the post -- contain a putdown, insult, or slam 
against one of their regular "enemies." 

I predict no reply. All they can do is *claim* that they
post other things. When asked to produce them, they can't.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[doctordumbass]

Yeah, the whole guns issue. It is a proud tradition of self-defense that has 
gotten completely out of hand. Every time a person had to move West, when the 
country was being settled, they needed a gun, for hunting and protection. So 
the tradition is deeply ingrained here. My Dad, and his father (b. 1870), were 
both gun collectors and had some of the most beautiful and unusual specimens I 
have seen.

It is a shame that this has morphed into an AK47 in every closet. Ironically, 
with all of our manufacturing capability now shipped to China, producing guns 
and armaments is just about the only Made In America industry left. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> Has *anyone* in America stopped to ponder whether the problem here
> is easy availability of guns rather than race or whatever problems?
> 
> Seems likely that if you couldn't get hold of 9mm pistols at the
> corner shop this situation might have amounted to a bit of arguing
> and not much more. When everyone is scared that everyone else is
> armed people are bound to be be a bit spikier.
> 
> I hear they have armed guards at primary schools now. What the fuck
> is wrong with your country?
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
> > see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
> > Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . 
> > She said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a 
> > homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by 
> > Zimmerman following him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home 
> > because his little brother was there and might... It's looking more like 
> > Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin 
> > intended to beat the snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. 
> > Zimmerman took a pounding for 45 seconds and then fired in self defense. In 
> > short, Trayvon's homophobia killed him.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > Has *anyone* in America stopped to ponder whether the problem
> > here is easy availability of guns rather than race or whatever
> problems?
> >
> > Seems likely that if you couldn't get hold of 9mm pistols at the
> > corner shop this situation might have amounted to a bit of arguing
> > and not much more. When everyone is scared that everyone else is
> > armed people are bound to be be a bit spikier.
> >
> > I hear they have armed guards at primary schools now. What the
> > fuck is wrong with your country?
> 
> It's a kind of collective "me first" insanity, bred of seeing too
> many cowboy/cop movies, believing in too many of America's
> myths, and never having been exposed to other, more civilized
> countries and societies.
> 
> The Bureau of Consular Affairs now *brags* that a "record
> number of Americans now hold passports." That "record number"
> is slightly over 33%. Admittedly, that is WAY up from only a few
> years ago, when only 8% of Americans held passports (and thus
> were even *able* to see what life was like in other countries),
> but now you need a passport to even go to Canada or Mexico,
> so that accounts for much of the increase. (You don't need a
> US passport to get *into* either Canada or Mexico, BTW...you
> need one to get back into your own country...that's the kind of
> insular mentality that America lives with these days.)
> 
> Americans -- for the most part -- have never had the experience
> of being able to walk safely after dark almost *anywhere*, as I
> have done in France, in Spain, in the Netherlands, and in many
> other countries in the years since I kissed America goodbye. They
> don't know what it *feels* like to live in a society in which random
> violence is not an ever-present possibility.
> 
> And they actually *believe* that totin' a gun will make them safer.
> The facts are somewhat different. The states with the highest gun
> ownership have a gun murder rate 114% higher than those with
> the lowest gun ownership. The number of mass shootings stopped
> by gun-toting civilians in the last thirty years is ZERO. For every
> time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults
> or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns
> in or around the home. 43% of homes with guns and kids leave
> their guns unlocked, and in one experiment, 1/3 of 8-12-year-old
> kids who found a handgun pulled the trigger.

Very interesting.

I saw a shocking documentary about the youngest kid in jail in
the US for life without parole (12) after he helped a friend kill
his stepdad. What a waste of lives but amidst all the handwringing from police, 
neighbours and family, *not one* person stopped to
wonder whether keeping two loaded pistols in an unlocked kitchen drawer was a 
bad idea. It's like some weird blind spot that was 
so taken for granted it wasn't even considered. It's just what 
they all do.

I wonder how England would be if guns were freely available?
We like to import everything else from the US: TV, shit food,
unfair business practises etc. So why not a liberal attitude
to weapons of mass destruction, how long would it take before
we're popping caps like it's some sort of solution?

Or would we be like Canada which, as I understand it, has
as many guns per person as the US but a much lower murder
rate?



> In 2011, nearly 10 times more people were shot and killed in argu-
> ments than by civilians trying to stop a crime. One study found
> that the odds of an assault victim being shot were 4.5X greater
> if he carried a gun, and his odds of being killed were 4.2X greater.
> 
> http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/pro-gun-myths-fact-check
> 
> 
> The last time I was in America (back in Santa Fe to renew
> documents), out of curiosity I dropped in to a local gun show.
> I was offered handguns, rifles, shotguns, and in four cases
> semi-automatic rifles that had been converted to full automatic
> (e.g., machine guns) *over the counter*. I would have had to
> show no ID, and no "background checks" would have been
> performed. If I had bought them, I would have walked out of
> the show fully equipped to become a mass murderer, requiring
> only a short stop at Walmart to stock up on ammo first.

Unbelievable. To me. 
 
> America is not only an insane asylum, its inmates are armed.

I blame this constitution thing...

> 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is
> developing, see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last
> night that Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the
> encounter . She said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a
> *rapist*, a homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon wa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gives new meaning to "Amazon Fulfillment Services" :-)

[turquoiseb]

BTW, this was a label created by some jokers in Joe's
company's receiving department, not by Amazon. Still,
it's hilarious. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> 
> [https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q83/s720x720/101\4415_10152058221117589_679302771_n.jpg]
>

[FairfieldLife] Gives new meaning to "Amazon Fulfillment Services" :-)

[turquoiseb]

[https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q83/s720x720/101\
4415_10152058221117589_679302771_n.jpg]

[FairfieldLife] The Oy of Sex

[turquoiseb]

The world of religion has crossed into a new frontier; the first kosher
sex lubes are here:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2013/07/first-kosher-lube-a\
ctually-long-time-favorite-among-gay-men/67220/


When is some TMer going to release a brand of Ayurvedic sex lubes?
Presumably they could avoid their products falling into the hands of
gays, because the lubes would have special woo-woo ingredients that
would prevent anyone from...uh...using an entrance that faces the
wrong direction.  :-)