[FairfieldLife] RE: OMG: madhusuudana#39;s definition of dhaaraNaa??
Madhu seems to take as an example a suutra (III 35'ish), that's not included at least in my set. Here is the original suutra (hRdaye cittasaMvit) with a translation and Bhoja-deva's comment: http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/11006081703/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/11006081703/ The original suutra doesn't have a word for lotus (e.g. puNDariika). Any ideas, why Maharishi left it out? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: I feel real sorry for quitters who did not stick around long enough to really know better. -Buck in the Dome Card, this is interesting. Maharishi employed this some more in some of the advanced technique. I find it really works and amp-ed up the progress of the embodiment of spirituality in the whole subtle energy system. -Buck mind's long-time-staying-in the lotus of heart, etc, is dhaaraNaa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: As most of us might well know, saMyama (sañyama) consists of dhaaraNaa, dhyaanam and samaadhi(H). This seems to be Madhusuudana's definition(?) of dhaaraNaa hRt-puNDariikaadau (hRt-puNDariika+aadau) manasash-cira-kaala-sthaapanaM dhaaraNaa. My attempt at translation: mind's long-time-staying-in the lotus of heart, etc, is dhaaraNaa. mind's (manasaH) long (cira)-time(kaala) -staying-in (sthaapanam) the lotus (puNDariika) of heart (hRt), etc (aadau), [is] dhaaraNaa. http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/7874205230/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/7874205230/in/photostream/ At the moment, his definitions of dhyaanam and samaadhiH seem too tricky for this sucker...
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: September 9, 2012, Richard, that's when Judy started her mission, whatever it is. Do not flatter yourself, Share. Judy's mission, whatever it is, started with her second post to FFL, back on May 18, 2005. That's when she admitted to having stalked one of her old enemies from alt.meditation.transcendental to FFL, taking some quotes from one of his posts here, and reposting them back on a.m.t. to further her vendetta against him there. She then commenced the same vendetta here on FFL, one that has not let up in any way in the years since. Along the way she did exactly the same thing with other posters she didn't like -- Curtis, Vaj, Sally Sunshine, Ruth, and many others. You might not recognize some of the names, because they grew so tired of 1) her unceasing harassment and 2) the fact that she had lowered this forum to such a low level of constant bickering and argumentation that they found nothing worth sticking around for. That probably was the goal of her mission in the first place, to drive away anyone who didn't bow to her pose as the authority in all things, She Who Must Not Be Contradicted, And Who Must Be Obeyed In All Things. :-) You're small potatoes, Share. She only focuses on you these days because you're one of the *only* people left on the forum who haven't caught on to her act, and as a result just ignore her as the vindictive, know-nothing ego-beast she is. Her whole pursuit of you is *not* (as you'd like to believe) because you're special. It's because you're SUCH A SUCKER. She knows that in you she's found someone with an ego as fragile and as sensitive as hers, and so whenever she or one of her minions attacks you or pokes fun at you, you'll feel that you have to reply. YOU HAVE NEVER 'GOTTEN' THAT SHE *WANTS* YOU TO REPLY. She *lives* for her enemies replying to her attacks and/or rebutting them. *No matter what happens and what is said*, she considers each and every one of the ensuing exchanges a victory. She claims to have won all of them. So the game IS really all about getting suckers to respond. In this sense, she is *exactly* like Richard. *His* goal is to try to poke and prod at people until they respond to him; then he's proved himself as a Class A Troll, and -- again, in *his* mind -- has won. Judy is *exactly* the same. The one thing that neither of them can cope with is someone figuring out this act and *not* responding. That drives them up the wall, and makes them feel as if they and what they say is of so little consequence that no one *needs* to pay attention to any of it, much less respond to it. In other words, it gives them a taste of reality. You *feed* her insanity by standing up for yourself, Share. And in a very real sense, YOU'RE JUST LIKE HER. Whenever the attacks on you die down, YOU find a way to restart them, so that you can say stuff and get people to respond to you, too. And -- just like Judy -- you are oblivious to the fact that these ongoing bitch-fests have lowered the entire consciousness of FFL, and driven a lot of people away. They *didn't* leave because of Neo; they left because YOU AND JUDY lobbied to have the posting limits removed, so you could spam this forum with your pettiness as much as you wanted to. Removing Ravi a second time was IMO a good decision on Rick's part. His vindictive bipolarism have caused at least one person to leave this forum when he was readmitted; maybe that person will come back and participate now that he's gone, hopefully for good this time. But if Rick *really* wanted to clean up the act of Fairfield Life, what he could do is remove the two people who most contribute to dragging it down into the gutter of petty, endless, ego-bickering. A few weeks without either YOU *or* JUDY, and her minions would dry up and blow away, and perhaps the forum could return to discussing things of actual interest again.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
turq, I'll quote an old holy man from an old story: is that so? On Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:18 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: September 9, 2012, Richard, that's when Judy started her mission, whatever it is. Do not flatter yourself, Share. Judy's mission, whatever it is, started with her second post to FFL, back on May 18, 2005. That's when she admitted to having stalked one of her old enemies from alt.meditation.transcendental to FFL, taking some quotes from one of his posts here, and reposting them back on a.m.t. to further her vendetta against him there. She then commenced the same vendetta here on FFL, one that has not let up in any way in the years since. Along the way she did exactly the same thing with other posters she didn't like -- Curtis, Vaj, Sally Sunshine, Ruth, and many others. You might not recognize some of the names, because they grew so tired of 1) her unceasing harassment and 2) the fact that she had lowered this forum to such a low level of constant bickering and argumentation that they found nothing worth sticking around for. That probably was the goal of her mission in the first place, to drive away anyone who didn't bow to her pose as the authority in all things, She Who Must Not Be Contradicted, And Who Must Be Obeyed In All Things. :-) You're small potatoes, Share. She only focuses on you these days because you're one of the *only* people left on the forum who haven't caught on to her act, and as a result just ignore her as the vindictive, know-nothing ego-beast she is. Her whole pursuit of you is *not* (as you'd like to believe) because you're special. It's because you're SUCH A SUCKER. She knows that in you she's found someone with an ego as fragile and as sensitive as hers, and so whenever she or one of her minions attacks you or pokes fun at you, you'll feel that you have to reply. YOU HAVE NEVER 'GOTTEN' THAT SHE *WANTS* YOU TO REPLY. She *lives* for her enemies replying to her attacks and/or rebutting them. *No matter what happens and what is said*, she considers each and every one of the ensuing exchanges a victory. She claims to have won all of them. So the game IS really all about getting suckers to respond. In this sense, she is *exactly* like Richard. *His* goal is to try to poke and prod at people until they respond to him; then he's proved himself as a Class A Troll, and -- again, in *his* mind -- has won. Judy is *exactly* the same. The one thing that neither of them can cope with is someone figuring out this act and *not* responding. That drives them up the wall, and makes them feel as if they and what they say is of so little consequence that no one *needs* to pay attention to any of it, much less respond to it. In other words, it gives them a taste of reality. You *feed* her insanity by standing up for yourself, Share. And in a very real sense, YOU'RE JUST LIKE HER. Whenever the attacks on you die down, YOU find a way to restart them, so that you can say stuff and get people to respond to you, too. And -- just like Judy -- you are oblivious to the fact that these ongoing bitch-fests have lowered the entire consciousness of FFL, and driven a lot of people away. They *didn't* leave because of Neo; they left because YOU AND JUDY lobbied to have the posting limits removed, so you could spam this forum with your pettiness as much as you wanted to. Removing Ravi a second time was IMO a good decision on Rick's part. His vindictive bipolarism have caused at least one person to leave this forum when he was readmitted; maybe that person will come back and participate now that he's gone, hopefully for good this time. But if Rick *really* wanted to clean up the act of Fairfield Life, what he could do is remove the two people who most contribute to dragging it down into the gutter of petty, endless, ego-bickering. A few weeks without either YOU *or* JUDY, and her minions would dry up and blow away, and perhaps the forum could return to discussing things of actual interest again.
RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
Judy, we remember it differently. Several articles about faulty memories have been posted recently. I think they apply also. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Share doubles down on her lie: RWC and I had our big upset on Sept 6 and then Dudy butted in on Sept 9. Before that we all got along. No, we did not all get along before that. Dudy even warned me once when I was new and almost posted out. You really just have to be amazed at her brazenness. No conscience. Yes, Quare, when you were new, before it was clear what a crappy human being you were, I did do you that favor. Complete non sequitur in this context, as you know. On Friday, November 22, 2013 5:15 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share lied: September 9, 2012, Richard, that's when Judy started her mission, whatever it is. This is a deliberate falsehood. As Share very well knows (and as I've reminded her over the past few days), she had run afoul of me (and Ann and Emily) well before her big mess-up with Robin. Those occasions were marked by her standard tactics: obfuscation, disingenuity, and refusal to take responsibility for her behavior (as she does above).
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Church of England Paves Way for Women Bishops in 2014
John, thank you so much for this article. It makes me like Mary more. The Catholic Church imo has distorted her history and image for their own purposes. Also, this makes much more sense to me, the idea of a Jesus being conceived during a holy moment between husband and wife. On Friday, November 22, 2013 10:44 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, I haven't heard of this idea before. But I don't see anything wrong with Mary being an Essene, although it can't be proved conclusively. Here's an article that discusses this subject: http://korileefp.hubpages.com/hub/Historical-Perspective-on-the-Virgin-Mother-Mary ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Some time ago I read a fascinating book explaining that both Mary and her mother Ann were Essenes. I bet the Church, especially after St. Paul, didn't want THAT to be revealed! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re Yes, the archetype being depicted may be the same. But one is a true character in history and the other is a myth.: Yes, but Isis was there first! And myth is a loaded word. The stories told about Isis are intended to point to vital truths about our condition. Mary was a real human being and the mother of a famous rabbi - but all the veneration in which she is held didn't exist in the Early Church. As the Church's teaching sidelined the feminine it eventually became necessary to project onto the character in history attributes that had been assigned to mother goddesses across the ancient world. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: S3, Yes, the archetype being depicted may be the same. But one is a true character in history and the other is a myth. This is the reason why I made a post a few days ago about the world as a hologram. IOW, a piece of our world whether real or imaginary/myth is a reflection of the absolute, not the archetype. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re . . . the Blessed Virgin Mary . . . why bother with Isis: Because they are different expressions of the same Goddess archetype. A Google brings up this comparison: * Isis was the most prominent female figure in ancient Egyptian religion. Mary is the most important female figure in Christianity. * Isis had a son named Horus. Mary had a son named Jesus. * When Horus was born, his father, Osirus, was already dead, which is very much like the birth of Jesus, fathered by the Holy Ghost. * Both Isis and Mary are depicted in art as being maternal and holding their infant deities. * Isis protected Horus from an evil uncle, which was much like Mary protecting Jesus from King Herod. * Both Isis and Mary have primary roles in their respective religious movements as the eternal mother. * “Lady of Light” is a title given to both Mary and Isis. The infant Horus was born as the god of light for Egypt, while Jesus is known as the light of the world. * Isis has a solar disk of light over her head and Mary has a halo of light above her head. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: S3, The Catholic Church already has a special place for the Blessed Virgin Mary. She is considered the Mother of God. And she was assumed to Heaven body and soul. So, why bother with Isis who was a pagan goddess of myth? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re women cannot be priests: Can I propose an alternative approach? What's wrong with women being *priestesses*?! That was the honourable title they were given in the pagan world of antiquity. It strikes me that the Christian churches are so male-oriented that trying to include female priests and bishops is really to try and include women who happen to imitate more or less successfully their male colleagues. Is that really desirable or feasible in an institution that for millennia has been dominated by a male ethos? Isn't it asking women to essentially conform to male values? But, on the other hand, do we really want to exclude women from having a central role in our religious life? Is their a solution to this dilemma? What about this: the Christian churches continue in having only male priests and bishops - and exclude women. That fits naturally with their historical story and avoids embarrassing admissions that they've been wrong for 2,000 years! But how about this: women develop their own religious ceremonies and practices outside the Christian dispensation but alongside the male bias of Christian churches and thus run in parallel - not as opponents but as adding a complementary aspect. I have in mind someone like Olivia Robertson, (who died last week!). She was an author, artist, co-founder and high priestess of the Fellowship of Isis, an international spiritual organisation devoted to promoting awareness of the feminine aspect of the divine. The Fellowship of
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: OMG: madhusuudana#39;s definition of dhaaraNaa??
Yes, That is interesting. One time at Humbolt when Maharishi was lecturing Divindra came boiling out in to the crowd and chastised someone for reading the minds of others, “Don't do that, people's minds and their thoughts are their own!” . M was incredibly tight introducing and controlling message in meditation and spiritual revival. He was on a message the whole time and seldom distracted people with other stuff out of sequence. In the less than adept, dabbling as fascination in other people's energy system can be screwing-up for other people's energetic systems , like leaving smudge of finger prints. I bet M. just did not want to unleash a bunch of stupid people in a mass movement for meditation and spiritual revival doing stupid sideline things so rightfully did not point people in that direction. Then learning the formulation of doing sidhis though becomes an important step towards embodiment though, so it becomes a necessity to delve in to; hence the period of time with the TM-sidhis. But the lotus thing, M was getting to with people in the Ved and Physiology course format of revival. That will be the teaching of Nader Ram will get to in his time when he gets to come down off his throne and walk amongst the people. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: Madhu seems to take as an example a suutra (III 35'ish), that's not included at least in my set. Here is the original suutra (hRdaye cittasaMvit) with a translation and Bhoja-deva's comment: http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/11006081703/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/11006081703/ The original suutra doesn't have a word for lotus (e.g. puNDariika). Any ideas, why Maharishi left it out? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: I feel real sorry for quitters who did not stick around long enough to really know better. -Buck in the Dome Card, this is interesting. Maharishi employed this some more in some of the advanced technique. I find it really works and amp-ed up the progress of the embodiment of spirituality in the whole subtle energy system. -Buck mind's long-time-staying-in the lotus of heart, etc, is dhaaraNaa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: As most of us might well know, saMyama (sañyama) consists of dhaaraNaa, dhyaanam and samaadhi(H). This seems to be Madhusuudana's definition(?) of dhaaraNaa hRt-puNDariikaadau (hRt-puNDariika+aadau) manasash-cira-kaala-sthaapanaM dhaaraNaa. My attempt at translation: mind's long-time-staying-in the lotus of heart, etc, is dhaaraNaa. mind's (manasaH) long (cira)-time(kaala) -staying-in (sthaapanam) the lotus (puNDariika) of heart (hRt), etc (aadau), [is] dhaaraNaa. http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/7874205230/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/7874205230/in/photostream/ At the moment, his definitions of dhyaanam and samaadhiH seem too tricky for this sucker...
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
Actually Turq's is a fair summary of a longer history. I feel Rick as owner here in conjunction with Yahoo Groups unkindness guidelines has good grounds to act swiftly and summarily on this. Rick would not even need to explain himself doing it. Most all understand that FFL was derailed and taken over by unkindness. Rick, get this over with and save the FFL group before Yahoo groups management closes it. The grounds are certainly clear for this, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, I'll quote an old holy man from an old story: is that so? On Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:18 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: September 9, 2012, Richard, that's when Judy started her mission, whatever it is. Do not flatter yourself, Share. Judy's mission, whatever it is, started with her second post to FFL, back on May 18, 2005. That's when she admitted to having stalked one of her old enemies from alt.meditation.transcendental to FFL, taking some quotes from one of his posts here, and reposting them back on a.m.t. to further her vendetta against him there. She then commenced the same vendetta here on FFL, one that has not let up in any way in the years since. Along the way she did exactly the same thing with other posters she didn't like -- Curtis, Vaj, Sally Sunshine, Ruth, and many others. You might not recognize some of the names, because they grew so tired of 1) her unceasing harassment and 2) the fact that she had lowered this forum to such a low level of constant bickering and argumentation that they found nothing worth sticking around for. That probably was the goal of her mission in the first place, to drive away anyone who didn't bow to her pose as the authority in all things, She Who Must Not Be Contradicted, And Who Must Be Obeyed In All Things. :-) You're small potatoes, Share. She only focuses on you these days because you're one of the *only* people left on the forum who haven't caught on to her act, and as a result just ignore her as the vindictive, know-nothing ego-beast she is. Her whole pursuit of you is *not* (as you'd like to believe) because you're special. It's because you're SUCH A SUCKER. She knows that in you she's found someone with an ego as fragile and as sensitive as hers, and so whenever she or one of her minions attacks you or pokes fun at you, you'll feel that you have to reply. YOU HAVE NEVER 'GOTTEN' THAT SHE *WANTS* YOU TO REPLY. She *lives* for her enemies replying to her attacks and/or rebutting them. *No matter what happens and what is said*, she considers each and every one of the ensuing exchanges a victory. She claims to have won all of them. So the game IS really all about getting suckers to respond. In this sense, she is *exactly* like Richard. *His* goal is to try to poke and prod at people until they respond to him; then he's proved himself as a Class A Troll, and -- again, in *his* mind -- has won. Judy is *exactly* the same. The one thing that neither of them can cope with is someone figuring out this act and *not* responding. That drives them up the wall, and makes them feel as if they and what they say is of so little consequence that no one *needs* to pay attention to any of it, much less respond to it. In other words, it gives them a taste of reality. You *feed* her insanity by standing up for yourself, Share. And in a very real sense, YOU'RE JUST LIKE HER. Whenever the attacks on you die down, YOU find a way to restart them, so that you can say stuff and get people to respond to you, too. And -- just like Judy -- you are oblivious to the fact that these ongoing bitch-fests have lowered the entire consciousness of FFL, and driven a lot of people away. They *didn't* leave because of Neo; they left because YOU AND JUDY lobbied to have the posting limits removed, so you could spam this forum with your pettiness as much as you wanted to. Removing Ravi a second time was IMO a good decision on Rick's part. His vindictive bipolarism have caused at least one person to leave this forum when he was readmitted; maybe that person will come back and participate now that he's gone, hopefully for good this time. But if Rick *really* wanted to clean up the act of Fairfield Life, what he could do is remove the two people who most contribute to dragging it down into the gutter of petty, endless, ego-bickering. A few weeks without either YOU *or* JUDY, and her minions would dry up and blow away, and perhaps the forum could return to discussing things of actual interest again.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: OMG: madhusuudana#39;s definition of dhaaraNaa??
Card It's from Vyasa's commentary. III.34 hrdaye citta-samvit [From sanyama] on the heart [one gains] understanding (samvid) of chitta [personal consciousness] Vyasa sez: In this city of Brahman is the small lotus which is the palace; in it is the vijñâna (consciousness). From sanyama on it, understanding of chitta. Shankara comments: On the heart, understanding of the chitta. In this city of Brahman, the body, is the small little lotus, the lump of flesh in the form of a lotus with its head turned down, which is the palace, like a palace in that it is the many-channeled meeting-place of the various nadi-s. In it is the consciousness (vijñâna) the chitta. From sanyama it, on the lotus which is strung on the tube that hangs in the lake of the breast, and which is the meeting-place of the life currents (prâna), comes awareness of the mind the sattva ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: Madhu seems to take as an example a suutra (III 35'ish), that's not included at least in my set. Here is the original suutra (hRdaye cittasaMvit) with a translation and Bhoja-deva's comment: http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/11006081703/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/11006081703/ The original suutra doesn't have a word for lotus (e.g. puNDariika). Any ideas, why Maharishi left it out? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: I feel real sorry for quitters who did not stick around long enough to really know better. -Buck in the Dome Card, this is interesting. Maharishi employed this some more in some of the advanced technique. I find it really works and amp-ed up the progress of the embodiment of spirituality in the whole subtle energy system. -Buck mind's long-time-staying-in the lotus of heart, etc, is dhaaraNaa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: As most of us might well know, saMyama (sañyama) consists of dhaaraNaa, dhyaanam and samaadhi(H). This seems to be Madhusuudana's definition(?) of dhaaraNaa hRt-puNDariikaadau (hRt-puNDariika+aadau) manasash-cira-kaala-sthaapanaM dhaaraNaa. My attempt at translation: mind's long-time-staying-in the lotus of heart, etc, is dhaaraNaa. mind's (manasaH) long (cira)-time(kaala) -staying-in (sthaapanam) the lotus (puNDariika) of heart (hRt), etc (aadau), [is] dhaaraNaa. http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/7874205230/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/7874205230/in/photostream/ At the moment, his definitions of dhyaanam and samaadhiH seem too tricky for this sucker...
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Message from Ravi
All I can figure out is the Ravi guy got banned for cursing, but he never gave me any grief, and the other guy was really nasty to me and posted private email to the group. Maybe you can explain it better than I can. The cursing was strange behavior, but the posting of the private email was against the rules. Now Ravi is gone but the emptybill guy is still here. Go figure. On 11/22/2013 8:40 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Look Richard, every attempt you've made to interpret the situation or the aftermath has been completely in error. Please stop trying. I ain't in the middle of nothin'. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Every one gets mixed up sometimes - no moderator is perfect. So, Emily got tricked by emptybill, and now she's caught in the middle, between him and Ravi. And, then Buck got offended by the cursing, so Rick banned Ravi, but didn't say anything to the cursed guy. You watch your language or you might be the next to get the boot. You've already offended just about everyone on the list with your nasty comments about our gurus. You're just lucky Judy hasn't noticed how negative you are. You just keep your pie hole shut about Amma, you hear? On 11/22/2013 8:02 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: Sorta seems to defeat the purpose of banning someone if others post their material for them. On Fri, 11/22/13, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Message from Ravi To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 22, 2013, 4:43 AM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: This is why you all should morn Ravi's dismissal from FFL and celebrate his unique style of blessing everyone with his personal attention. Remember Bill - I don't associate with trailer trash like you. I have nothing but contempt, disgust and hostility for dishonest, unintelligent like you. You couldn't withstand the heat of my confrontation. Don't flatter yourself - you and your family, your whole bigoted, unintelligent, insensitive trailer trash generations are beneath my status, my dignity, my intelligence, the sensitivity, beauty and awesomeness of my personal consciousness. And don't be so desperate. Emily's a personal friend of mine and she knows me very well, and she's laughing behind your back - Don't embarrass and humiliate yourself. Have some dignity, hope you find your conscience. It is my compassion and kindness I have entertained a person like you for this long. May the Universe have mercy on your pitiful, dishonest soul. So what is this, a current private email Ravi just sent you? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: This is in response to emptybill's accusations that I have harassed her wife. This is nothing but a vicious, malicious lie. I have stretched the limits to confront, shock and humiliate emptybill but to suggest I ever contacted his wife is hilarious. Emptybill had accidentally emailed me last year and we have had private conversations, I have all emails with me and they were all cordial and I even wished him luck after he talked about his marriage after a 10 year live-in relationship. I'm really shocked at emptybill's dishonesty and I have warned him and the moderators to disallow these kinds of malicious lies. Ravi.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: OMG: madhusuudana's definition of dhaaraNaa??
Thanks for this emptybill, it's so beautiful... Vyasa uvacha On Saturday, November 23, 2013 8:04 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Card It's from Vyasa's commentary. III.34 hrdaye citta-samvit [From sanyama] on the heart [one gains] understanding (samvid) of chitta [personal consciousness] Vyasa sez: In this city of Brahman is the small lotus which is the palace; in it is the vijñâna (consciousness). From sanyama on it, understanding of chitta. Shankara comments: On the heart, understanding of the chitta. In this city of Brahman,the body, is the small little lotus, the lump of flesh in the form of a lotus with its head turned down, which is the palace, like a palace in that it is the many-channeled meeting-place of the various nadi-s. In it is the consciousness (vijñâna) the chitta. From sanyama it, on the lotus which is strung on the tube that hangs in the lake of the breast, and which is the meeting-place of the life currents (prâna), comes awareness of the mind the sattva ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: Madhu seems to take as an example a suutra (III 35'ish), that's not included at least in my set. Here is the original suutra (hRdaye cittasaMvit) with a translation and Bhoja-deva's comment: http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/11006081703/ The original suutra doesn't have a word for lotus (e.g. puNDariika). Any ideas, why Maharishi left it out? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: I feel real sorry for quitters who did not stick around long enough to really know better. -Buck in the Dome Card, this is interesting. Maharishi employed this some more in some of the advanced technique. I find it really works and amp-ed up the progress of the embodiment of spirituality in the whole subtle energy system. -Buck mind's long-time-staying-in the lotus of heart, etc, is dhaaraNaa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: As most of us might well know, saMyama (sañyama) consists of dhaaraNaa, dhyaanam and samaadhi(H). This seems to be Madhusuudana's definition(?) of dhaaraNaa hRt-puNDariikaadau (hRt-puNDariika+aadau) manasash-cira-kaala-sthaapanaM dhaaraNaa. My attempt at translation: mind's long-time-staying-in the lotus of heart, etc, is dhaaraNaa. mind's (manasaH) long (cira)-time(kaala) -staying-in (sthaapanam) the lotus (puNDariika) of heart (hRt), etc (aadau), [is] dhaaraNaa. http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/7874205230/in/photostream/ At the moment, his definitions of dhyaanam and samaadhiH seem too tricky for this sucker...
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Actually Turq's is a fair summary of a longer history. I feel Rick as owner here in conjunction with Yahoo Groups unkindness guidelines has good grounds to act swiftly and summarily on this. Rick would not even need to explain himself doing it. Most all understand that FFL was derailed and taken over by unkindness. Rick, get this over with and save the FFL group before Yahoo groups management closes it. The grounds are certainly clear for this, -Buck Buck, as much as you might be an upstanding and model citizen in the faraway land of make believe that is FF Iowa people like yourself are a menace to what I like to believe as the free world. Your misguided, albeit sincere, beliefs as well as your idea of what constitutes reasonable dialogue between human beings is faulty at best and downright draconian at worst. Your world would be a world of dictatorial mandates aimed at creating model citizens engaging in a homogenous ritual of daily practices and form of dress and mode of living that goes against everything I live and breath for. Your recent insistence that Ravi be banned from the forum is one such example of this closed minded and terrifying ethical stand and viewpoint that you hold so dear to your breast. The fact that it was implemented on this forum, that Ravi was de-listed as a member in good standing, is a farce. Your idea of what constitutes spirituality has so far missed the reality of things that I wonder what you really know about any of it. You are someone who gets the benefit of working in the soil, getting into the grit of what farm life and what being around animals can really do for one's soul and at the same time you have potential access to daily practices of meditation and are surrounded by others of like interests and yet you appear a man who has missed the proverbial boat - by a country mile. But the point of my letter is not to bring Buck up on the carpet, I don't believe you (Buck) are going to change in this lifetime. My point here is to bring forth my feelings on this matter of censorship of one human being named Ravi and to have focused, for just a moment, on the rather terrifying forces that could have caused this to happen thanks to the one, strident voice, who demanded it (Buck's). Of course, the censorship of Ravi's voice at FFL is preposterous and completely unfounded if one were to, for five minutes, take an overview of the average post and poster here. Everywhere you turn there are examples of the worst, and sometimes the best, of what human beings are capable of. There is virtually no one on this forum who has not lied, threatened the beliefs of others, pandered, manipulated, abused or otherwise exhibited the near infinite machinations humans can go through in a day. Currently there are those who I believe exhibit some of the more odious characteristics that a fellow member of the human race can embody and yet they are posting happily away to their heart's content - constantly. So it boggles my mind that one man, an outspoken and graphically explicit/strident man mind you, is singled out because Empty chooses to (allegedly) lie about Ravi's actions and Buck screams loud enough for censorship when Ravi, rightly so, strikes back at Empty and his accusations. Controlling the input at FFL like this is not what this place should be about. If that were the case there would be one man left standing and that would be the soft spoken and non confrontational contributor called John. As nice as he is, one man's voice a forum does not make. Perhaps my strongest argument to reinstate Ravi would be Emily's post yesterday. If Ravi and Empty had not engaged in the way they did we would not have had the opportunity to have witnessed this magnificent and revealing and human post of Emily's. That is what this place should be all about. I strongly encourage those who can make the decision to reinstate the potential for Ravi to continue to participate here. I doubt he will care one way or another but it is the principal, the fairness, the open mindedness which is vital here, not the outcome of whether Ravi would ever choose to use his voice here that is most important. LET PEOPLE SPEAK AND BE THEMSELVES; it is often the cause of the greatest and most meaningful spiritual/life revelations. Silence bred of censorship and fear is a silence reminiscent of the worst kind of death. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, I'll quote an old holy man from an old story: is that so? On Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:18 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: September 9, 2012, Richard, that's when Judy started her mission, whatever it is. Do not flatter yourself, Share. Judy's mission, whatever it is, started with her second post to FFL, back on May
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Message from Ravi
Obviously one of the guys told some fibs. Ravi can always post to Usenet - I'd be interested in what he has to say about Yoga because emptybill was really nasty when I tried to talk to him and I could get no useful information from him about Buddhism, Yoga, or anything else. Go figure. Comments on the Shiva Sutra https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/alt.meditation.transcendental https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21forum/alt.meditation.transcendental On 11/22/2013 8:54 PM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: Generally, I don't post stuff for people. But, in this case, I did so out of fairness. It didn't seem right to let a possibly false accusation stand, with the accused unable to respond. I told Ravi that I would post this one response, and that's it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackso...@yahoo.com mailto:mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Sorta seems to defeat the purpose of banning someone if others post their material for them. On Fri, 11/22/13, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com mailto:awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com mailto:awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Message from Ravi To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 22, 2013, 4:43 AM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: This is why you all should morn Ravi's dismissal from FFL and celebrate his unique style of blessing everyone with his personal attention. Remember Bill - I don't associate with trailer trash like you. I have nothing but contempt, disgust and hostility for dishonest, unintelligent like you. You couldn't withstand the heat of my confrontation. Don't flatter yourself - you and your family, your whole bigoted, unintelligent, insensitive trailer trash generations are beneath my status, my dignity, my intelligence, the sensitivity, beauty and awesomeness of my personal consciousness. And don't be so desperate. Emily's a personal friend of mine and she knows me very well, and she's laughing behind your back - Don't embarrass and humiliate yourself. Have some dignity, hope you find your conscience. It is my compassion and kindness I have entertained a person like you for this long. May the Universe have mercy on your pitiful, dishonest soul. So what is this, a current private email Ravi just sent you? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: This is in response to emptybill's accusations that I have harassed her wife. This is nothing but a vicious, malicious lie. I have stretched the limits to confront, shock and humiliate emptybill but to suggest I ever contacted his wife is hilarious. Emptybill had accidentally emailed me last year and we have had private conversations, I have all emails with me and they were all cordial and I even wished him luck after he talked about his marriage after a 10 year live-in relationship. I'm really shocked at emptybill's dishonesty and I have warned him and the moderators to disallow these kinds of malicious lies. Ravi.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
No, it's not so. Barry packed as many lies as he possibly could into this post. And I mean lies--deliberate misstatements of fact. It would take me longer than it's worth to rebut all of them; I'll just give one example. He writes: That's when she admitted to having stalked one of her old enemies from alt.meditation.transcendental to FFL. I admitted no such thing, because--surprise!--it wasn't the case. In fact, Barry urged everyone on alt.m.t to come over to FFL, and several of us took him up on it. If anybody's interested in the extent of Barry's fabrications in this post, see the originals of the posts he lies about, here (from FFL--read from the bottom up): http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/msg08231.html http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/msg08231.html The reason I spoke up on FFL in the first place was that Barry and Vaj had both told lies about what went on on alt.m.t. And here (on alt.m.t, the paragraphs I copied from one of his FFL posts, plus a bunch of his alt.m.t posts, showing the contrast between his self-presentation there and his self-presentation here (i.e., to show what a hypocrite he was): https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!original/alt.meditation.transcendental/CXuwxGycoEU/zRsjlVlfQaEJ https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!original/alt.meditation.transcendental/CXuwxGycoEU/zRsjlVlfQaEJ Also, there is in his current post one whopping self-contradiction. Can you spot it? This usually happens when he writes one of his lie-crammed posts; there are too many lies for him to keep them all in mind and make sure they don't conflict with each other. Anyway, the rest of his post is no more honest than the lies I cited above. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, I'll quote an old holy man from an old story: is that so? On Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:18 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: September 9, 2012, Richard, that's when Judy started her mission, whatever it is. Do not flatter yourself, Share. Judy's mission, whatever it is, started with her second post to FFL, back on May 18, 2005. That's when she admitted to having stalked one of her old enemies from alt.meditation.transcendental to FFL, taking some quotes from one of his posts here, and reposting them back on a.m.t. to further her vendetta against him there. She then commenced the same vendetta here on FFL, one that has not let up in any way in the years since. Along the way she did exactly the same thing with other posters she didn't like -- Curtis, Vaj, Sally Sunshine, Ruth, and many others. You might not recognize some of the names, because they grew so tired of 1) her unceasing harassment and 2) the fact that she had lowered this forum to such a low level of constant bickering and argumentation that they found nothing worth sticking around for. That probably was the goal of her mission in the first place, to drive away anyone who didn't bow to her pose as the authority in all things, She Who Must Not Be Contradicted, And Who Must Be Obeyed In All Things. :-) You're small potatoes, Share. She only focuses on you these days because you're one of the *only* people left on the forum who haven't caught on to her act, and as a result just ignore her as the vindictive, know-nothing ego-beast she is. Her whole pursuit of you is *not* (as you'd like to believe) because you're special. It's because you're SUCH A SUCKER. She knows that in you she's found someone with an ego as fragile and as sensitive as hers, and so whenever she or one of her minions attacks you or pokes fun at you, you'll feel that you have to reply. YOU HAVE NEVER 'GOTTEN' THAT SHE *WANTS* YOU TO REPLY. She *lives* for her enemies replying to her attacks and/or rebutting them. *No matter what happens and what is said*, she considers each and every one of the ensuing exchanges a victory. She claims to have won all of them. So the game IS really all about getting suckers to respond. In this sense, she is *exactly* like Richard. *His* goal is to try to poke and prod at people until they respond to him; then he's proved himself as a Class A Troll, and -- again, in *his* mind -- has won. Judy is *exactly* the same. The one thing that neither of them can cope with is someone figuring out this act and *not* responding. That drives them up the wall, and makes them feel as if they and what they say is of so little consequence that no one *needs* to pay attention to any of it, much less respond to it. In other words, it gives them a taste of reality. You *feed* her insanity by standing up for yourself, Share. And in a very real sense, YOU'RE JUST LIKE HER. Whenever the attacks on you die down, YOU find a way to restart them, so that you can say stuff and get people to respond to you, too. And -- just like Judy --
RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
We?? Yes, anyone who remembers it differently definitely needs to read those articles about false memories. Share continues to confabulate: Judy, we remember it differently. Several articles about faulty memories have been posted recently. I think they apply also. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Share doubles down on her lie: RWC and I had our big upset on Sept 6 and then Dudy butted in on Sept 9. Before that we all got along. No, we did not all get along before that. Dudy even warned me once when I was new and almost posted out. You really just have to be amazed at her brazenness. No conscience. Yes, Quare, when you were new, before it was clear what a crappy human being you were, I did do you that favor. Complete non sequitur in this context, as you know. On Friday, November 22, 2013 5:15 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share lied: September 9, 2012, Richard, that's when Judy started her mission, whatever it is. This is a deliberate falsehood. As Share very well knows (and as I've reminded her over the past few days), she had run afoul of me (and Ann and Emily) well before her big mess-up with Robin. Those occasions were marked by her standard tactics: obfuscation, disingenuity, and refusal to take responsibility for her behavior (as she does above).
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
Sounds about right to me. Dudy gets JELLOS sometimes when other people post to her online buddies and so she often butts in and can get really nasty and downright mean. I tried to warn you about going down the rabbit hole with her. Look what happened to Curtis and Barry. Go figure. On 11/22/2013 8:56 PM, Share Long wrote: RWC and I had our big upset on Sept 6 and then Dudy butted in on Sept 9. Before that we all got along. Dudy even warned me once when I was new and almost posted out. On Friday, November 22, 2013 5:15 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Share lied: September 9, 2012, Richard, that's when Judy started her mission, whatever it is. This is a deliberate falsehood. As Share very well knows (and as I've reminded her over the past few days), she had run afoul of me (and Ann and Emily) well before her big mess-up with Robin. Those occasions were marked by her standard tactics: obfuscation, disingenuity, and refusal to take responsibility for her behavior (as she does above).
[FairfieldLife] Right Place, Right Time
A friend on another forum, which centers on time we spent together in (gasp) high school, posted a couple of songs recently from his post-Morocco days in New Orleans and other parts of Louisiana. That got me to thinkin' about my favorite Louisiana musicians, and what I came up with as a reply song on the thread was Mac Rebennack's classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT4RainY-lY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT4RainY-lY And *that* got me thinkin' about the contrary, Bein' in the right place at the right time. That's more fun, so because I'm in one of my favorite Right Places (Bad Habits, in Leiden) again, and because it seems like the Right Time, I'll rap about it a little. There are some on this forum -- some still doing TM, some not -- who got on the TM bus back during the Beatles wave. That was the Right Place, and the Right Time. For a number of years, for those of us who were tired of the drugs and kinda burned out on all the easy sex and guiltlessness :-) climbing onto the TM bus was the right thing to do. And it gave us quite a ride. Many parts of the ride were fun, and gave us glimpses of what we were really riding *towards*. When the guilt crept back in and the ride became not quite as fun, some of us pushed the buzzer and got off the bus. But that doesn't mean that the whole TM thang was either the Wrong Place, or the Wrong Time. It was what it was, and I for one don't regret a minute of it. Since then, for me, there have been other Right Place, Right Time experiences. Climbing on the Rama bus. Climbing off again, when it was the Right Time to do so. I have no regrets about those places and times, either. Next came a period of living in Back Bay, Boston, and while that was fun, something in me could tell that it was neither the Right Place, nor the Right Time. So I took a long Road Trip, with no fixed direction in mind, just to search for the Next Right Place in which to have further adventures. I settled on Santa Fe, New Mexico, and that turned into six of the most Right Place, Right Time years of my life. No regrets. Then came Paris. And then came Sauve, in the south of France. Then came Sitges, Spain. Not a *one* of them less than the Right Place, at the Right Time. I would be a *fool* to regret any of the time I spent in those places. Then came the Netherlands, and although the first town I lived in might not have been the Right Place (it was boring with a capital Blech!), it was the Right Time, and gave me a chance to settle in to the weird Dutch way of life. It was also the springboard for moving to Leiden, and that has turned into one of the best Right Place, Right Time moves of my life. Then Paris reared its head, and I went for it, and that was pretty Right Place, Right Time, too. Until it wasn't any more. So I'm happy that I'm going to be spending more time here in Leiden, because -- right now, for me -- this is the Right Place. And I hope, when I return full-time in three weeks, to have a Right Fun Time here again.
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
No, it's not a fair summary. It's actually a compendium of lies, one of Barry's specialties. See my post to Share with links to documentation of several of the biggest lies in his post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Actually Turq's is a fair summary of a longer history. I feel Rick as owner here in conjunction with Yahoo Groups unkindness guidelines has good grounds to act swiftly and summarily on this. Rick would not even need to explain himself doing it. Most all understand that FFL was derailed and taken over by unkindness. Rick, get this over with and save the FFL group before Yahoo groups management closes it. The grounds are certainly clear for this, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, I'll quote an old holy man from an old story: is that so? On Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:18 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: September 9, 2012, Richard, that's when Judy started her mission, whatever it is. Do not flatter yourself, Share. Judy's mission, whatever it is, started with her second post to FFL, back on May 18, 2005. That's when she admitted to having stalked one of her old enemies from alt.meditation.transcendental to FFL, taking some quotes from one of his posts here, and reposting them back on a.m.t. to further her vendetta against him there. She then commenced the same vendetta here on FFL, one that has not let up in any way in the years since. Along the way she did exactly the same thing with other posters she didn't like -- Curtis, Vaj, Sally Sunshine, Ruth, and many others. You might not recognize some of the names, because they grew so tired of 1) her unceasing harassment and 2) the fact that she had lowered this forum to such a low level of constant bickering and argumentation that they found nothing worth sticking around for. That probably was the goal of her mission in the first place, to drive away anyone who didn't bow to her pose as the authority in all things, She Who Must Not Be Contradicted, And Who Must Be Obeyed In All Things. :-) You're small potatoes, Share. She only focuses on you these days because you're one of the *only* people left on the forum who haven't caught on to her act, and as a result just ignore her as the vindictive, know-nothing ego-beast she is. Her whole pursuit of you is *not* (as you'd like to believe) because you're special. It's because you're SUCH A SUCKER. She knows that in you she's found someone with an ego as fragile and as sensitive as hers, and so whenever she or one of her minions attacks you or pokes fun at you, you'll feel that you have to reply. YOU HAVE NEVER 'GOTTEN' THAT SHE *WANTS* YOU TO REPLY. She *lives* for her enemies replying to her attacks and/or rebutting them. *No matter what happens and what is said*, she considers each and every one of the ensuing exchanges a victory. She claims to have won all of them. So the game IS really all about getting suckers to respond. In this sense, she is *exactly* like Richard. *His* goal is to try to poke and prod at people until they respond to him; then he's proved himself as a Class A Troll, and -- again, in *his* mind -- has won. Judy is *exactly* the same. The one thing that neither of them can cope with is someone figuring out this act and *not* responding. That drives them up the wall, and makes them feel as if they and what they say is of so little consequence that no one *needs* to pay attention to any of it, much less respond to it. In other words, it gives them a taste of reality. You *feed* her insanity by standing up for yourself, Share. And in a very real sense, YOU'RE JUST LIKE HER. Whenever the attacks on you die down, YOU find a way to restart them, so that you can say stuff and get people to respond to you, too. And -- just like Judy -- you are oblivious to the fact that these ongoing bitch-fests have lowered the entire consciousness of FFL, and driven a lot of people away. They *didn't* leave because of Neo; they left because YOU AND JUDY lobbied to have the posting limits removed, so you could spam this forum with your pettiness as much as you wanted to. Removing Ravi a second time was IMO a good decision on Rick's part. His vindictive bipolarism have caused at least one person to leave this forum when he was readmitted; maybe that person will come back and participate now that he's gone, hopefully for good this time. But if Rick *really* wanted to clean up the act of Fairfield Life, what he could do is remove the two people who most contribute to dragging it down into the gutter of petty, endless, ego-bickering. A few weeks without either YOU *or* JUDY, and her minions would dry up and blow away, and perhaps the forum could return to discussing things of actual interest again.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: September 9, 2012, Richard, that's when Judy started her mission, whatever it is. Do not flatter yourself, Share. Judy's mission, whatever it is, started with her second post to FFL, back on May 18, 2005. That's when she admitted to having stalked one of her old enemies from alt.meditation.transcendental to FFL, taking some quotes from one of his posts here, and reposting them back on a.m.t. to further her vendetta against him there. She then commenced the same vendetta here on FFL, one that has not let up in any way in the years since. Along the way she did exactly the same thing with other posters she didn't like -- Curtis, Vaj, Sally Sunshine, Ruth, and many others. You might not recognize some of the names, because they grew so tired of 1) her unceasing harassment and 2) the fact that she had lowered this forum to such a low level of constant bickering and argumentation that they found nothing worth sticking around for. That probably was the goal of her mission in the first place, to drive away anyone who didn't bow to her pose as the authority in all things, She Who Must Not Be Contradicted, And Who Must Be Obeyed In All Things. :-) You're small potatoes, Share. She only focuses on you these days because you're one of the *only* people left on the forum who haven't caught on to her act, and as a result just ignore her as the vindictive, know-nothing ego-beast she is. Her whole pursuit of you is *not* (as you'd like to believe) because you're special. It's because you're SUCH A SUCKER. She knows that in you she's found someone with an ego as fragile and as sensitive as hers, and so whenever she or one of her minions attacks you or pokes fun at you, you'll feel that you have to reply. YOU HAVE NEVER 'GOTTEN' THAT SHE *WANTS* YOU TO REPLY. She *lives* for her enemies replying to her attacks and/or rebutting them. *No matter what happens and what is said*, she considers each and every one of the ensuing exchanges a victory. She claims to have won all of them. So the game IS really all about getting suckers to respond. In this sense, she is *exactly* like Richard. *His* goal is to try to poke and prod at people until they respond to him; then he's proved himself as a Class A Troll, and -- again, in *his* mind -- has won. Judy is *exactly* the same. The one thing that neither of them can cope with is someone figuring out this act and *not* responding. That drives them up the wall, and makes them feel as if they and what they say is of so little consequence that no one *needs* to pay attention to any of it, much less respond to it. In other words, it gives them a taste of reality. You *feed* her insanity by standing up for yourself, Share. And in a very real sense, YOU'RE JUST LIKE HER. Whenever the attacks on you die down, YOU find a way to restart them, so that you can say stuff and get people to respond to you, too. And -- just like Judy -- you are oblivious to the fact that these ongoing bitch-fests have lowered the entire consciousness of FFL, and driven a lot of people away. They *didn't* leave because of Neo; they left because YOU AND JUDY lobbied to have the posting limits removed, so you could spam this forum with your pettiness as much as you wanted to. Removing Ravi a second time was IMO a good decision on Rick's part. His vindictive bipolarism have caused at least one person to leave this forum when he was readmitted; maybe that person will come back and participate now that he's gone, hopefully for good this time. But if Rick *really* wanted to clean up the act of Fairfield Life, what he could do is remove the two people who most contribute to dragging it down into the gutter of petty, endless, ego-bickering. A few weeks without either YOU *or* JUDY, and her minions would dry up and blow away, and perhaps the forum could return to discussing things of actual interest again. Hey Barry, I thought you'd given up trying to 'reason' with Share. She won't listen, she can't and if she could she can't help herself.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
Uh, no, most definitely not true. Richard lied: Sounds about right to me. Dudy gets JELLOS sometimes when other people post to her online buddies
[FairfieldLife] Re: Right Place, Right Time
Hilarious. Surfing YouTube for more classic Dr. John clips, what did I find in the related videos column but a number of talks by...wait for it...Dr. John Hagelin. Talk about a Tantric juxtaposition of opposites. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: A friend on another forum, which centers on time we spent together in (gasp) high school, posted a couple of songs recently from his post-Morocco days in New Orleans and other parts of Louisiana. That got me to thinkin' about my favorite Louisiana musicians, and what I came up with as a reply song on the thread was Mac Rebennack's classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT4RainY-lY And *that* got me thinkin' about the contrary, Bein' in the right place at the right time. That's more fun, so because I'm in one of my favorite Right Places (Bad Habits, in Leiden) again, and because it seems like the Right Time, I'll rap about it a little. There are some on this forum -- some still doing TM, some not -- who got on the TM bus back during the Beatles wave. That was the Right Place, and the Right Time. For a number of years, for those of us who were tired of the drugs and kinda burned out on all the easy sex and guiltlessness :-) climbing onto the TM bus was the right thing to do. And it gave us quite a ride. Many parts of the ride were fun, and gave us glimpses of what we were really riding *towards*. When the guilt crept back in and the ride became not quite as fun, some of us pushed the buzzer and got off the bus. But that doesn't mean that the whole TM thang was either the Wrong Place, or the Wrong Time. It was what it was, and I for one don't regret a minute of it. Since then, for me, there have been other Right Place, Right Time experiences. Climbing on the Rama bus. Climbing off again, when it was the Right Time to do so. I have no regrets about those places and times, either. Next came a period of living in Back Bay, Boston, and while that was fun, something in me could tell that it was neither the Right Place, nor the Right Time. So I took a long Road Trip, with no fixed direction in mind, just to search for the Next Right Place in which to have further adventures. I settled on Santa Fe, New Mexico, and that turned into six of the most Right Place, Right Time years of my life. No regrets. Then came Paris. And then came Sauve, in the south of France. Then came Sitges, Spain. Not a *one* of them less than the Right Place, at the Right Time. I would be a *fool* to regret any of the time I spent in those places. Then came the Netherlands, and although the first town I lived in might not have been the Right Place (it was boring with a capital Blech!), it was the Right Time, and gave me a chance to settle in to the weird Dutch way of life. It was also the springboard for moving to Leiden, and that has turned into one of the best Right Place, Right Time moves of my life. Then Paris reared its head, and I went for it, and that was pretty Right Place, Right Time, too. Until it wasn't any more. So I'm happy that I'm going to be spending more time here in Leiden, because -- right now, for me -- this is the Right Place. And I hope, when I return full-time in three weeks, to have a Right Fun Time here again.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
What a cowardly, and clueless, response from you, Barry. You have done as much as anybody to sow discord here, and bring up topics, incessantly, that are on your agenda, whether, or not, they are of any interest to others. You are really the last person here who should be writing this holier than thou screed - it doesn't make you sound mature, thoughtful, reflective, or insightful, at all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: September 9, 2012, Richard, that's when Judy started her mission, whatever it is. Do not flatter yourself, Share. Judy's mission, whatever it is, started with her second post to FFL, back on May 18, 2005. That's when she admitted to having stalked one of her old enemies from alt.meditation.transcendental to FFL, taking some quotes from one of his posts here, and reposting them back on a.m.t. to further her vendetta against him there. She then commenced the same vendetta here on FFL, one that has not let up in any way in the years since. Along the way she did exactly the same thing with other posters she didn't like -- Curtis, Vaj, Sally Sunshine, Ruth, and many others. You might not recognize some of the names, because they grew so tired of 1) her unceasing harassment and 2) the fact that she had lowered this forum to such a low level of constant bickering and argumentation that they found nothing worth sticking around for. That probably was the goal of her mission in the first place, to drive away anyone who didn't bow to her pose as the authority in all things, She Who Must Not Be Contradicted, And Who Must Be Obeyed In All Things. :-) You're small potatoes, Share. She only focuses on you these days because you're one of the *only* people left on the forum who haven't caught on to her act, and as a result just ignore her as the vindictive, know-nothing ego-beast she is. Her whole pursuit of you is *not* (as you'd like to believe) because you're special. It's because you're SUCH A SUCKER. She knows that in you she's found someone with an ego as fragile and as sensitive as hers, and so whenever she or one of her minions attacks you or pokes fun at you, you'll feel that you have to reply. YOU HAVE NEVER 'GOTTEN' THAT SHE *WANTS* YOU TO REPLY. She *lives* for her enemies replying to her attacks and/or rebutting them. *No matter what happens and what is said*, she considers each and every one of the ensuing exchanges a victory. She claims to have won all of them. So the game IS really all about getting suckers to respond. In this sense, she is *exactly* like Richard. *His* goal is to try to poke and prod at people until they respond to him; then he's proved himself as a Class A Troll, and -- again, in *his* mind -- has won. Judy is *exactly* the same. The one thing that neither of them can cope with is someone figuring out this act and *not* responding. That drives them up the wall, and makes them feel as if they and what they say is of so little consequence that no one *needs* to pay attention to any of it, much less respond to it. In other words, it gives them a taste of reality. You *feed* her insanity by standing up for yourself, Share. And in a very real sense, YOU'RE JUST LIKE HER. Whenever the attacks on you die down, YOU find a way to restart them, so that you can say stuff and get people to respond to you, too. And -- just like Judy -- you are oblivious to the fact that these ongoing bitch-fests have lowered the entire consciousness of FFL, and driven a lot of people away. They *didn't* leave because of Neo; they left because YOU AND JUDY lobbied to have the posting limits removed, so you could spam this forum with your pettiness as much as you wanted to. Removing Ravi a second time was IMO a good decision on Rick's part. His vindictive bipolarism have caused at least one person to leave this forum when he was readmitted; maybe that person will come back and participate now that he's gone, hopefully for good this time. But if Rick *really* wanted to clean up the act of Fairfield Life, what he could do is remove the two people who most contribute to dragging it down into the gutter of petty, endless, ego-bickering. A few weeks without either YOU *or* JUDY, and her minions would dry up and blow away, and perhaps the forum could return to discussing things of actual interest again.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: What a cowardly, and clueless, response from you, Barry. You have done as much as anybody to sow discord here, and bring up topics, incessantly, that are on your agenda, whether, or not, they are of any interest to others. You are really the last person here who should be writing this holier than thou screed - it doesn't make you sound mature, thoughtful, reflective, or insightful, at all. Who on earth could CARE about being perceived by others as any of those things? :-)
[FairfieldLife] RE: To Emptybill and an Amends to Ravi
Without intruding into this kerfuffle--I'll take Emily's and Ravi's word for the truth of what went on--I want to align myself with this comment of Emily's: Ravi is an open, friendly, warm, perceptive, accepting, highly intelligent person with a quick wit and a generous spirit and I was glad to meet him. He has integrity as a human being and works hard to support his family. I haven't had the pleasure of actually meeting Ravi, but I'd really like to and hope I get the chance someday. He's a good man.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: What a cowardly, and clueless, response from you, Barry. You have done as much as anybody to sow discord here, and bring up topics, incessantly, that are on your agenda, whether, or not, they are of any interest to others. You are really the last person here who should be writing this holier than thou screed - it doesn't make you sound mature, thoughtful, reflective, or insightful, at all. Who on earth could CARE about being perceived by others as any of those things? :-) Ho, ho. Can someone be banned from FFL for pretending they don't care when they really, really do?
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
It makes him sound like a willful and malicious hypocrite and liar if you compare what he wrote in this post with the facts he claims to be writing about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: What a cowardly, and clueless, response from you, Barry. You have done as much as anybody to sow discord here, and bring up topics, incessantly, that are on your agenda, whether, or not, they are of any interest to others. You are really the last person here who should be writing this holier than thou screed - it doesn't make you sound mature, thoughtful, reflective, or insightful, at all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: September 9, 2012, Richard, that's when Judy started her mission, whatever it is. Do not flatter yourself, Share. Judy's mission, whatever it is, started with her second post to FFL, back on May 18, 2005. That's when she admitted to having stalked one of her old enemies from alt.meditation.transcendental to FFL, taking some quotes from one of his posts here, and reposting them back on a.m.t. to further her vendetta against him there. She then commenced the same vendetta here on FFL, one that has not let up in any way in the years since. Along the way she did exactly the same thing with other posters she didn't like -- Curtis, Vaj, Sally Sunshine, Ruth, and many others. You might not recognize some of the names, because they grew so tired of 1) her unceasing harassment and 2) the fact that she had lowered this forum to such a low level of constant bickering and argumentation that they found nothing worth sticking around for. That probably was the goal of her mission in the first place, to drive away anyone who didn't bow to her pose as the authority in all things, She Who Must Not Be Contradicted, And Who Must Be Obeyed In All Things. :-) You're small potatoes, Share. She only focuses on you these days because you're one of the *only* people left on the forum who haven't caught on to her act, and as a result just ignore her as the vindictive, know-nothing ego-beast she is. Her whole pursuit of you is *not* (as you'd like to believe) because you're special. It's because you're SUCH A SUCKER. She knows that in you she's found someone with an ego as fragile and as sensitive as hers, and so whenever she or one of her minions attacks you or pokes fun at you, you'll feel that you have to reply. YOU HAVE NEVER 'GOTTEN' THAT SHE *WANTS* YOU TO REPLY. She *lives* for her enemies replying to her attacks and/or rebutting them. *No matter what happens and what is said*, she considers each and every one of the ensuing exchanges a victory. She claims to have won all of them. So the game IS really all about getting suckers to respond. In this sense, she is *exactly* like Richard. *His* goal is to try to poke and prod at people until they respond to him; then he's proved himself as a Class A Troll, and -- again, in *his* mind -- has won. Judy is *exactly* the same. The one thing that neither of them can cope with is someone figuring out this act and *not* responding. That drives them up the wall, and makes them feel as if they and what they say is of so little consequence that no one *needs* to pay attention to any of it, much less respond to it. In other words, it gives them a taste of reality. You *feed* her insanity by standing up for yourself, Share. And in a very real sense, YOU'RE JUST LIKE HER. Whenever the attacks on you die down, YOU find a way to restart them, so that you can say stuff and get people to respond to you, too. And -- just like Judy -- you are oblivious to the fact that these ongoing bitch-fests have lowered the entire consciousness of FFL, and driven a lot of people away. They *didn't* leave because of Neo; they left because YOU AND JUDY lobbied to have the posting limits removed, so you could spam this forum with your pettiness as much as you wanted to. Removing Ravi a second time was IMO a good decision on Rick's part. His vindictive bipolarism have caused at least one person to leave this forum when he was readmitted; maybe that person will come back and participate now that he's gone, hopefully for good this time. But if Rick *really* wanted to clean up the act of Fairfield Life, what he could do is remove the two people who most contribute to dragging it down into the gutter of petty, endless, ego-bickering. A few weeks without either YOU *or* JUDY, and her minions would dry up and blow away, and perhaps the forum could return to discussing things of actual interest again.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: What a cowardly, and clueless, response from you, Barry. You have done as much as anybody to sow discord here, and bring up topics, incessantly, that are on your agenda, whether, or not, they are of any interest to others. You are really the last person here who should be writing this holier than thou screed - it doesn't make you sound mature, thoughtful, reflective, or insightful, at all. Mean-spirited stuff never does. It is the mean that usually shows up the clearest, to the detriment of whatever else of worth might have been present. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: September 9, 2012, Richard, that's when Judy started her mission, whatever it is. Do not flatter yourself, Share. Judy's mission, whatever it is, started with her second post to FFL, back on May 18, 2005. That's when she admitted to having stalked one of her old enemies from alt.meditation.transcendental to FFL, taking some quotes from one of his posts here, and reposting them back on a.m.t. to further her vendetta against him there. She then commenced the same vendetta here on FFL, one that has not let up in any way in the years since. Along the way she did exactly the same thing with other posters she didn't like -- Curtis, Vaj, Sally Sunshine, Ruth, and many others. You might not recognize some of the names, because they grew so tired of 1) her unceasing harassment and 2) the fact that she had lowered this forum to such a low level of constant bickering and argumentation that they found nothing worth sticking around for. That probably was the goal of her mission in the first place, to drive away anyone who didn't bow to her pose as the authority in all things, She Who Must Not Be Contradicted, And Who Must Be Obeyed In All Things. :-) You're small potatoes, Share. She only focuses on you these days because you're one of the *only* people left on the forum who haven't caught on to her act, and as a result just ignore her as the vindictive, know-nothing ego-beast she is. Her whole pursuit of you is *not* (as you'd like to believe) because you're special. It's because you're SUCH A SUCKER. She knows that in you she's found someone with an ego as fragile and as sensitive as hers, and so whenever she or one of her minions attacks you or pokes fun at you, you'll feel that you have to reply. YOU HAVE NEVER 'GOTTEN' THAT SHE *WANTS* YOU TO REPLY. She *lives* for her enemies replying to her attacks and/or rebutting them. *No matter what happens and what is said*, she considers each and every one of the ensuing exchanges a victory. She claims to have won all of them. So the game IS really all about getting suckers to respond. In this sense, she is *exactly* like Richard. *His* goal is to try to poke and prod at people until they respond to him; then he's proved himself as a Class A Troll, and -- again, in *his* mind -- has won. Judy is *exactly* the same. The one thing that neither of them can cope with is someone figuring out this act and *not* responding. That drives them up the wall, and makes them feel as if they and what they say is of so little consequence that no one *needs* to pay attention to any of it, much less respond to it. In other words, it gives them a taste of reality. You *feed* her insanity by standing up for yourself, Share. And in a very real sense, YOU'RE JUST LIKE HER. Whenever the attacks on you die down, YOU find a way to restart them, so that you can say stuff and get people to respond to you, too. And -- just like Judy -- you are oblivious to the fact that these ongoing bitch-fests have lowered the entire consciousness of FFL, and driven a lot of people away. They *didn't* leave because of Neo; they left because YOU AND JUDY lobbied to have the posting limits removed, so you could spam this forum with your pettiness as much as you wanted to. Removing Ravi a second time was IMO a good decision on Rick's part. His vindictive bipolarism have caused at least one person to leave this forum when he was readmitted; maybe that person will come back and participate now that he's gone, hopefully for good this time. But if Rick *really* wanted to clean up the act of Fairfield Life, what he could do is remove the two people who most contribute to dragging it down into the gutter of petty, endless, ego-bickering. A few weeks without either YOU *or* JUDY, and her minions would dry up and blow away, and perhaps the forum could return to discussing things of actual interest again.
[FairfieldLife] thank you Marek the surfer
I've found the perfect solution to scary plane rides. Humorous books! Think about it. If you're plummeting to the earth, wouldn't you rather be laughing than screaming in terror during your last seconds alive? Anyway, quite some time ago Marek recommended a book titled The Antidote: Happiness For People Who Can't Stand Positive Thinking by Oliver Burkeman. Loving the title I purchased that book and another of his: Help! This latter I read during my last trip east and laughed my head off. And The Antidote I began yesterday. Not quite as funny as Help! but funny enough and both books full of wonderful insights based on his own observations and also science and the observations and insights of others. For example, for The Antidote he interviewed the famous psychologist Dr. Ellis, once voted even more important than Freud! Burkeman also talks about Seneca and Marcus Aurelius and Xeno and the original Stoics. He also devotes a whole chapter on Buddhism and being the sky cuz the weather just comes and goes. There's also a wonderful chapter, full of research, about the futility and even harm of setting goals. And a wonderfully light hearted chapter about his fascinating interview with Eckhart Tolle. Ok, my ride to my Mom's will be here soon. Maybe more later. Remember to be the sky cuz the weather will just come and go anyway (-:
[FairfieldLife] RE: Church of England Paves Way for Women Bishops in 2014
Re The problem for the Catholic Church would be that the sacraments central to the religion and required for salvation couldn't be administered by priestesses.: Why not though? If the argument is that the priest has to play the role of stand-in for Jesus you might just as well say the priest should always be from the Jewish race as that a priest couldn't be a woman. Galatians 3:28: There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Sounds inclusive to me. But I have no interest in changing the Church. My point was that groups like the Fellowship of Isis provided a complementary alternative. One weekend you could go to church; the next weekend go and join a celebration of Isis. The high priestess of the Fellowship of Isis, Olivia Robertson, invited people of all faiths to attend her rituals. Ironically there was some controversy that her funeral last Wednesday began with a private ceremony in the temple, organised by the fellowship, followed by a public Church of Ireland service at St Fiacc’s in Clonegal. Some Christians were alarmed that a heretic's life should be celebrated in a church. Obit from The Telegraph gives fair overview of the eccentric lady's life. http://tinyurl.com/o9nkjy4 http://tinyurl.com/o9nkjy4 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: The problem for the Catholic Church would be that the sacraments central to the religion and required for salvation couldn't be administered by priestesses. Whatever ceremonies and practices they might devise would be extraneous, extra-salvational, as it were. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re women cannot be priests: Can I propose an alternative approach? What's wrong with women being *priestesses*?! That was the honourable title they were given in the pagan world of antiquity. It strikes me that the Christian churches are so male-oriented that trying to include female priests and bishops is really to try and include women who happen to imitate more or less successfully their male colleagues. Is that really desirable or feasible in an institution that for millennia has been dominated by a male ethos? Isn't it asking women to essentially conform to male values? But, on the other hand, do we really want to exclude women from having a central role in our religious life? Is their a solution to this dilemma? What about this: the Christian churches continue in having only male priests and bishops - and exclude women. That fits naturally with their historical story and avoids embarrassing admissions that they've been wrong for 2,000 years! But how about this: women develop their own religious ceremonies and practices outside the Christian dispensation but alongside the male bias of Christian churches and thus run in parallel - not as opponents but as adding a complementary aspect. I have in mind someone like Olivia Robertson, (who died last week!). She was an author, artist, co-founder and high priestess of the Fellowship of Isis, an international spiritual organisation devoted to promoting awareness of the feminine aspect of the divine. The Fellowship of Isis has thousands of members worldwide. Take a peek here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1PFYQOn4DI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1PFYQOn4DI ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Religion will stand for nothing if its foundational principles are that gay people are not permitted to marry, or that women cannot be priests, or other small-minded obsessions with sex and gender. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Little sheep that have lost their way, is all! Pretty soon Religion will stand for nothing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Actually, more and more religionists are supporting gay marriage, exactly because they believe that to be against it would be contrary to the moral and ethical foundations of their religion. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Most Religions have lost contact with their essential source of knowledge, that is, pure intelligence, or Being as Consciousness. As such, they are like ships with a damaged rudder, better than nothing but not very effective. Slowly, as ethical humanism takes over decaying Religion, the ethical and moral foundations of Religions will all be knocked slowly away (note gay marriage) by the intellectual elite who happen to be atheists. Life, without a guide, will disintegrate until a revival of knowledge and experience and *Religious Science* replace moral relativism and ethical humanism. True knowledge of the true principles of living can never be totally lost... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Ann, I believe the Catholic Church considers the role of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Right Place, Right Time
I saw Dr. John twice in the 1990s. Once in San Fran at Boz Scagg's club and another time at a dinner club in Emeryville. He puts on quite a fun show. On 11/23/2013 06:39 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: A friend on another forum, which centers on time we spent together in (gasp) high school, posted a couple of songs recently from his post-Morocco days in New Orleans and other parts of Louisiana. That got me to thinkin' about my favorite Louisiana musicians, and what I came up with as a reply song on the thread was Mac Rebennack's classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT4RainY-lY
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Church of England Paves Way for Women Bishops in 2014
OK. I had the notion that your parallel tracks idea meant the two were more closely related in practice, one for men and one for women. I overinterpreted what you meant by alongside. I've read my 10 free Telegraph articles for the month, BTW, so I can't read the obit until after Thanksgiving. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re The problem for the Catholic Church would be that the sacraments central to the religion and required for salvation couldn't be administered by priestesses.: Why not though? If the argument is that the priest has to play the role of stand-in for Jesus you might just as well say the priest should always be from the Jewish race as that a priest couldn't be a woman. Galatians 3:28: There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Sounds inclusive to me. But I have no interest in changing the Church. My point was that groups like the Fellowship of Isis provided a complementary alternative. One weekend you could go to church; the next weekend go and join a celebration of Isis. The high priestess of the Fellowship of Isis, Olivia Robertson, invited people of all faiths to attend her rituals. Ironically there was some controversy that her funeral last Wednesday began with a private ceremony in the temple, organised by the fellowship, followed by a public Church of Ireland service at St Fiacc’s in Clonegal. Some Christians were alarmed that a heretic's life should be celebrated in a church. Obit from The Telegraph gives fair overview of the eccentric lady's life. http://tinyurl.com/o9nkjy4 http://tinyurl.com/o9nkjy4 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: The problem for the Catholic Church would be that the sacraments central to the religion and required for salvation couldn't be administered by priestesses. Whatever ceremonies and practices they might devise would be extraneous, extra-salvational, as it were. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re women cannot be priests: Can I propose an alternative approach? What's wrong with women being *priestesses*?! That was the honourable title they were given in the pagan world of antiquity. It strikes me that the Christian churches are so male-oriented that trying to include female priests and bishops is really to try and include women who happen to imitate more or less successfully their male colleagues. Is that really desirable or feasible in an institution that for millennia has been dominated by a male ethos? Isn't it asking women to essentially conform to male values? But, on the other hand, do we really want to exclude women from having a central role in our religious life? Is their a solution to this dilemma? What about this: the Christian churches continue in having only male priests and bishops - and exclude women. That fits naturally with their historical story and avoids embarrassing admissions that they've been wrong for 2,000 years! But how about this: women develop their own religious ceremonies and practices outside the Christian dispensation but alongside the male bias of Christian churches and thus run in parallel - not as opponents but as adding a complementary aspect. I have in mind someone like Olivia Robertson, (who died last week!). She was an author, artist, co-founder and high priestess of the Fellowship of Isis, an international spiritual organisation devoted to promoting awareness of the feminine aspect of the divine. The Fellowship of Isis has thousands of members worldwide. Take a peek here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1PFYQOn4DI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1PFYQOn4DI ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Religion will stand for nothing if its foundational principles are that gay people are not permitted to marry, or that women cannot be priests, or other small-minded obsessions with sex and gender. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Little sheep that have lost their way, is all! Pretty soon Religion will stand for nothing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Actually, more and more religionists are supporting gay marriage, exactly because they believe that to be against it would be contrary to the moral and ethical foundations of their religion. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Most Religions have lost contact with their essential source of knowledge, that is, pure intelligence, or Being as Consciousness. As such, they are like ships with a damaged rudder, better than nothing but not very effective. Slowly, as ethical humanism takes over decaying Religion, the ethical and moral foundations of Religions will all be knocked slowly away (note gay marriage) by the intellectual elite who happen to be atheists.
[FairfieldLife] Where People Live
[image: Inline image 1] Someday soon we are going to be selling everything and packing up what's left to move to a place that's right for us. There are good reasons to move and good reason to stay where we are. Each area has its pros and cons. Every place you live is a compromise and there is no perfect place For example some place have good weather all year like Laguna Beach, California, and some places have weather that sucks, like Cut Bank, Montana. For others, weather is perhaps not as big of a deal. Most people like what they already know and the older people get the more they have resistance to change. For me, moving isn't a big deal, since I spent eighteen years a military brat, living in over ten U.S. states, England and Japan. After college I lived in California for thirteen years, both north and south, and then moved to Austin, Texas for twelve years. Recently Rita and I visited her hometown, Detroit, and visited her sister for a few weeks. And, I've driven through most of the U.S. at one time or another. I love northern California and the Escondido area around San Diego - lots of business opportunities;good schools; avocados.. These are the many reasons people like to live near the ocean or the mountains. But, there are some negatives also, like in California where the state is struggling, which means the cities are now struggling. The bureaucracy is increasing out there. Some people are getting tired of dealing high property taxes - Prop 13 sets property tax on homes at 1% - and sales taxes are going up all the time. If you buy a $1M home you'll pay $10,000 just in taxes to live in San Diego County! Is there some place that would be an almost ideal place to live? If you take out a map of the U.S. you can easily cross off several locations. The first thing we did was cut out places where homes are very expensive, like Seattle, Washington or San Francisco, California or Portland, Oregon. We want someplace that is cheap where you can park a lot of cars and play loud music. So, you can cross off places where it's too hot or too dry or too wet - bad weather. And, we want to avoid tornadoes, hurricanes, flooding, earthquakes, blizzards and deserts. That rules out most of the middle of the country, California, Texas, Arizona, Utah, New Mexico, Montana and most of the Gulf of Mexico states, and the far north both east and west. Some people don't like living in flat lands - they prefer mountains with trees and scenery. We want a place that has rivers, lakes, and less traffic. So, after ruling out those places (there are still some rural places in California, Oregon, and Washington, but they're not ideal for one reason or another). Years ago Stephen Gaskin and his family opted to move from San Francisco to Tennessee to be on The Farm. So, I started to consider places like Nashville and Memphis where Rita could still continue playing in her band and I could park my cars and work out of my home office on the internet. In a recent survey of great places to retire Chattanooga was at the top of the list. Go figure. I've been reading about how Chattanooga is experiencing a resurgence of vitality in the city: very low rates for electricity due to good management by the Tennessee Valley Authority. And very fast network connections too. You can buy a nice house in Chattanooga for $150,000 or rent a house for around $1000 a month; car registration is $28; $2 a year to register your boat; you can establish a corporation for $150. So, living costs would be a lot cheaper in Chattanooga than some other places. What is there to do there? We don't want to be out in the sticks with no culture or entertainment. We want to live near a town or city where there are lakes and river for rafting and caves to explore, and trails for mountain biking. And, there are historical sites too; Washington D.C. is just a days drive away. So, in a quick review of the positives of living in Chattanooga: there is cheap housing; cheap energy; cheap water; cheap land; low taxes; and low bureaucracy. There are green lands, mountains, rivers and lakes and fire flies out in nature. And industry - Amazon is out there and Ikea, Home Depot, and a Whole Foods Market in town. The weather is not bad, does not get too hot and does not get extremely cold either. Tornadoes are rare. But, what about rednecks? Heck, I'm used to that, being one myself, but some places, even though they're located in the south, defy stereotypes, just like Austin, Texas, the home of live music. We might miss that, but there's Nashville and Memphis for music entertainment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Farm_(Tennessee) http://www.thefarmcommunity.com/ http://www.chattanoogafun.com/ http://www.nps.gov/state/tn/index.htm?program=all
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
Is it just me, or do any of you also think Judy has gone rabid lately? This has got to be one of the nastiest messages I've read on any forum in a very long time. It almost defies description - is it informative, entertaining, or even interesting? I think not, and I also think maybe it's time for Ms Stein to take a break from posting to FFL; then, in maybe a year or two, when she can dialog like a lady or a friend. At present, she is neither. On 11/22/2013 10:44 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Share doubles down on her lie: RWC and I had our big upset on Sept 6 and then Dudy butted in on Sept 9. Before that we all got along. No, we did not all get along before that. Dudy even warned me once when I was new and almost posted out. You really just have to be amazed at her brazenness. No conscience. Yes, Quare, when you were new, before it was clear what a crappy human being you were, I did do you that favor. Complete non sequitur in this context, as you know. On Friday, November 22, 2013 5:15 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share lied: September 9, 2012, Richard, that's when Judy started her mission, whatever it is. This is a deliberate falsehood. As Share very well knows (and as I've reminded her over the past few days), she had run afoul of me (and Ann and Emily) well before her big mess-up with Robin. Those occasions were marked by her standard tactics: obfuscation, disingenuity, and refusal to take responsibility for her behavior (as she does above).
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Al Gore debates Global Warming
The author concludes that, so far, the rise in disaster losses is mainly a function of more investments getting in harm’s way as communities in places vulnerable to natural hazards grow... Read more; 'Study Finds No Link Tying Disaster Losses to Human-Driven Warming' By Andrew C. Rewvkin New York Times, August 23, 2010 http://tinyurl.com/252mrln On 11/22/2013 11:36 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Whose adorning, let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing gold, or of putting on of [frivolous and ostentatious] apparel; But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God [the Unified Field] of great price. Pet. *3:3-4.* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: *Yes, all of this will have to change in a brave new world of climate change coming. * *We will all need to sacrifice. Look, we need not just some incremental change in some efficiency but it is time for revolutionary lifestyle change based on large thinking and science. I feel we should immediately and institute quiet-time meditations in all schools everywhere. Start with the children as students. Then also in all public workplaces. -Buck* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: I have a better idea: start by becoming a vegetarian if what Richard says is to be believed (and I believe it). If one is going to meditate perhaps we should do so in a house that does not require heat or air conditioning. That would mean moving to a more temperate climate. Do you eat meat Buck? Do you drive a car or tractor? Do you heat your home? Do you consume anything not made within 5 miles of where you live? Do you ever travel to faraway places to see saints? I'd like to be able to say your simplistic and elegant solution of meditating for two hours a day was going to solve all this but, alas, I fear you may have missed the proverbial mark. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: *Well, as a substantial resolution we should all be investing in energy efficient sustainable group meditation meeting homes for quiet-time meditations where people live, go to school, or work. Pay people to do a full two hour meditation program twice a day during the workday. We could achieve upwards of 50 percent reduction in emission of climate change greenhouse gases. Somehow we have to get back to much simpler standards of living for the benefit of all living beings. We need to attack rampant materialism somewhere. It should start with instituting quiet-time meditation for everyone. -Buck* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Maybe you forgot to mention all the animal flatulence out back in your barn? Livestock also produces more than 100 other polluting gases, including more than two-thirds of the world's emissions of ammonia, one of the main causes of acid rain. http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/ http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/cow-emissions-more-damaging-to-planet-than-co2-from-cars-427843.html On 11/21/2013 8:51 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: Is that giant dome you attend every day heated or does it have air conditioning or fans? Is your giant tractor fuelled by pig piss? Just askin'... ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, Buck. mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: *Yep, no question it is hotter and drier in Fairfield. Folks will certainly repent the glutton of their fossil-fueled air-conditioned days whence we get drought years back to back and a real drought sets in for 60 or 90 days across the mid-crop growing stage from seedling to pollination. You'll all repent then you sinners and become believers in the obvious that carbon dioxide is the element that regulates our atmospheric climate. About the only thing you'll be able to do with famine then is meditate your last skinny breath on earth. Git real. It is all about lifestyle, materialism and the lack of people spending enough time in meditation everyday. * *-Buck in the Dome* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Dare Rick watch it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kids Post the Darndest Things!
Is it alright with you, Ann, if I dialog with Share, for just one or two minutes without you butting in with some nasty message? You sound JELLOS. Go figure. On 11/22/2013 11:46 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Very cute, Richard. Here I am in the Detroit airport waiting for my flight to Baltimore. The Internet here is much faster than it was in Cedar Rapids, IA. Go figure (-: Stroke, groan. On Friday, November 22, 2013 1:05 PM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: In 1957, Eugene O'Neill won a Pullet Surprise.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
That's it - blame it all on Share. Go figure. On 11/23/2013 4:18 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: September 9, 2012, Richard, that's when Judy started her mission, whatever it is. Do not flatter yourself, Share. Judy's mission, whatever it is, started with her second post to FFL, back on May 18, 2005. That's when she admitted to having stalked one of her old enemies from alt.meditation.transcendental to FFL, taking some quotes from one of his posts here, and reposting them back on a.m.t. to further her vendetta against him there. She then commenced the same vendetta here on FFL, one that has not let up in any way in the years since. Along the way she did exactly the same thing with other posters she didn't like -- Curtis, Vaj, Sally Sunshine, Ruth, and many others. You might not recognize some of the names, because they grew so tired of 1) her unceasing harassment and 2) the fact that she had lowered this forum to such a low level of constant bickering and argumentation that they found nothing worth sticking around for. That probably was the goal of her mission in the first place, to drive away anyone who didn't bow to her pose as the authority in all things, She Who Must Not Be Contradicted, And Who Must Be Obeyed In All Things. :-) You're small potatoes, Share. She only focuses on you these days because you're one of the *only* people left on the forum who haven't caught on to her act, and as a result just ignore her as the vindictive, know-nothing ego-beast she is. Her whole pursuit of you is *not* (as you'd like to believe) because you're special. It's because you're SUCH A SUCKER. She knows that in you she's found someone with an ego as fragile and as sensitive as hers, and so whenever she or one of her minions attacks you or pokes fun at you, you'll feel that you have to reply. YOU HAVE NEVER 'GOTTEN' THAT SHE *WANTS* YOU TO REPLY. She *lives* for her enemies replying to her attacks and/or rebutting them. *No matter what happens and what is said*, she considers each and every one of the ensuing exchanges a victory. She claims to have won all of them. So the game IS really all about getting suckers to respond. In this sense, she is *exactly* like Richard. *His* goal is to try to poke and prod at people until they respond to him; then he's proved himself as a Class A Troll, and -- again, in *his* mind -- has won. Judy is *exactly* the same. The one thing that neither of them can cope with is someone figuring out this act and *not* responding. That drives them up the wall, and makes them feel as if they and what they say is of so little consequence that no one *needs* to pay attention to any of it, much less respond to it. In other words, it gives them a taste of reality. You *feed* her insanity by standing up for yourself, Share. And in a very real sense, YOU'RE JUST LIKE HER. Whenever the attacks on you die down, YOU find a way to restart them, so that you can say stuff and get people to respond to you, too. And -- just like Judy -- you are oblivious to the fact that these ongoing bitch-fests have lowered the entire consciousness of FFL, and driven a lot of people away. They *didn't* leave because of Neo; they left because YOU AND JUDY lobbied to have the posting limits removed, so you could spam this forum with your pettiness as much as you wanted to. Removing Ravi a second time was IMO a good decision on Rick's part. His vindictive bipolarism have caused at least one person to leave this forum when he was readmitted; maybe that person will come back and participate now that he's gone, hopefully for good this time. But if Rick *really* wanted to clean up the act of Fairfield Life, what he could do is remove the two people who most contribute to dragging it down into the gutter of petty, endless, ego-bickering. A few weeks without either YOU *or* JUDY, and her minions would dry up and blow away, and perhaps the forum could return to discussing things of actual interest again.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
The Zen master Hakuin was praised by his neighbors as one living a pure life. A beautiful Japanese girl whose parents owned a food store lived near him. Suddenly, without any warning, her parents discovered she had a child. This made her parents angry. She would not confess who the man was, but after much harassment at last named Hakuin. In great anger the parent went to the master. Is that so? was all he would say. After the child was born it was brought to Hakuin. By this time he had lost his reputation, which did not trouble him, but he took very good care of the child. He obtained milk from his neighbors and everything else he needed.A year later the girl-mother could stand it no longer. She told her parents the truth - the real father of the child was a young man who worked in the fish market. The mother and father of the girl at once went to Hakuin to ask forgiveness, to apologize at length, and to get the child back. Hakuin was willing. In yielding the child, all he said was: Is that so? On 11/23/2013 5:54 AM, Share Long wrote: turq, I'll quote an old holy man from an old story: is that so? On Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:18 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: September 9, 2012, Richard, that's when Judy started her mission, whatever it is. Do not flatter yourself, Share. Judy's mission, whatever it is, started with her second post to FFL, back on May 18, 2005. That's when she admitted to having stalked one of her old enemies from alt.meditation.transcendental to FFL, taking some quotes from one of his posts here, and reposting them back on a.m.t. to further her vendetta against him there. She then commenced the same vendetta here on FFL, one that has not let up in any way in the years since. Along the way she did exactly the same thing with other posters she didn't like -- Curtis, Vaj, Sally Sunshine, Ruth, and many others. You might not recognize some of the names, because they grew so tired of 1) her unceasing harassment and 2) the fact that she had lowered this forum to such a low level of constant bickering and argumentation that they found nothing worth sticking around for. That probably was the goal of her mission in the first place, to drive away anyone who didn't bow to her pose as the authority in all things, She Who Must Not Be Contradicted, And Who Must Be Obeyed In All Things. :-) You're small potatoes, Share. She only focuses on you these days because you're one of the *only* people left on the forum who haven't caught on to her act, and as a result just ignore her as the vindictive, know-nothing ego-beast she is. Her whole pursuit of you is *not* (as you'd like to believe) because you're special. It's because you're SUCH A SUCKER. She knows that in you she's found someone with an ego as fragile and as sensitive as hers, and so whenever she or one of her minions attacks you or pokes fun at you, you'll feel that you have to reply. YOU HAVE NEVER 'GOTTEN' THAT SHE *WANTS* YOU TO REPLY. She *lives* for her enemies replying to her attacks and/or rebutting them. *No matter what happens and what is said*, she considers each and every one of the ensuing exchanges a victory. She claims to have won all of them. So the game IS really all about getting suckers to respond. In this sense, she is *exactly* like Richard. *His* goal is to try to poke and prod at people until they respond to him; then he's proved himself as a Class A Troll, and -- again, in *his* mind -- has won. Judy is *exactly* the same. The one thing that neither of them can cope with is someone figuring out this act and *not* responding. That drives them up the wall, and makes them feel as if they and what they say is of so little consequence that no one *needs* to pay attention to any of it, much less respond to it. In other words, it gives them a taste of reality. You *feed* her insanity by standing up for yourself, Share. And in a very real sense, YOU'RE JUST LIKE HER. Whenever the attacks on you die down, YOU find a way to restart them, so that you can say stuff and get people to respond to you, too. And -- just like Judy -- you are oblivious to the fact that these ongoing bitch-fests have lowered the entire consciousness of FFL, and driven a lot of people away. They *didn't* leave because of Neo; they left because YOU AND JUDY lobbied to have the posting limits removed, so you could spam this forum with your pettiness as much as you wanted to. Removing Ravi a second time was IMO a good decision on Rick's part. His vindictive bipolarism have caused at least one person to leave this forum when he was readmitted; maybe that person will come back and participate now that he's gone, hopefully for good this time. But if Rick *really* wanted to clean up the act of Fairfield Life, what he could do is remove the two people who most contribute to dragging it down into the
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
It sounds about right to me, and in my opinion you are JELLOS when other people post to your buddies. And, I can't think of any other reason for you to try and be a communicator here - how long has it been since you posted anything interesting to read? Your attitude these days is hateful and pathetic and I'm not the only one to notice it. You've got almost zero support here anymore - maybe it's time for you to go back to Usenet where you came from. I can't think of anything else you could say that would make any of us want to be your friend on Facebook, that's fer sure! I'd sure not want to meet up with you at a yoga camp! Of all the informants I've read in the past ten years on the internet, I can say without the least hesitation, YOU SUCK the most! On 11/23/2013 8:47 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Uh, no, most definitely not true.* ** *Richard lied: * Sounds about right to me. Dudy gets JELLOS sometimes when other people post to her online buddies
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: To Emptybill and an Amends to Ravi
So, I guess that means Rick is a 'bad man' for booting him? Go figure. On 11/23/2013 9:05 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Without intruding into this kerfuffle--I'll take Emily's and Ravi's word for the truth of what went on--I want to align myself with this comment of Emily's: Ravi is an open, friendly, warm, perceptive, accepting, highly intelligent person with a quick wit and a generous spirit and I was glad to meet him. He has integrity as a human being and works hard to support hisfamily. I haven't had the pleasure of actually meeting Ravi, but I'd really like to and hope I get the chance someday. He's a good man.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
Your so-called opinion is, of course, laughably off-base. (If anyone takes Richard seriously enough to want to know why I say that, just ask.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: It sounds about right to me, and in my opinion you are JELLOS when other people post to your buddies.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Where People Live
Richard, I once drove from FF to Knoxville taking a highway through gorgeous, old mountain range. Tennessee is beautiful. Some friends of mine who lived and worked in California realized that financially they could not retire there. They literally visited lots of places popular on lists of places to retire. It came down to Tennessee and one other place. But they are a non church attending lesbian couple and decided that Ft. Collins, CO suited them better from the lifestyle point of view. They are very happy there, hiking and shopping at Trader Joes, with hub airport an hour away and reasonable weather most of the year. I think Chattanooga would be perfect for you and Rita. And one of my grannys was born there (-: On Saturday, November 23, 2013 2:18 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Someday soon we are going to be selling everything and packing up what's left to move to a place that's right for us. There are good reasons to move and good reason to stay where we are. Each area has its pros and cons. Every place you live is a compromise and there is no perfect place For example some place have good weather all year like Laguna Beach, California, and some places have weather that sucks, like Cut Bank, Montana. For others, weather is perhaps not as big of a deal. Most people like what they already know and the older people get the more they have resistance to change. For me, moving isn't a big deal, since I spent eighteen years a military brat, living in over ten U.S. states, England and Japan. After college I lived in California for thirteen years, both north and south, and then moved to Austin, Texas for twelve years. Recently Rita and I visited her hometown, Detroit, and visited her sister for a few weeks. And, I've driven through most of the U.S. at one time or another. I love northern California and the Escondido area around San Diego - lots of business opportunities;good schools; avocados.. These are the many reasons people like to live near the ocean or the mountains. But, there are some negatives also, like in California where the state is struggling, which means the cities are now struggling. The bureaucracy is increasing out there. Some people are getting tired of dealing high property taxes - Prop 13 sets property tax on homes at 1% - and sales taxes are going up all the time. If you buy a $1M home you'll pay $10,000 just in taxes to live in San Diego County! Is there some place that would be an almost ideal place to live? If you take out a map of the U.S. you can easily cross off several locations. The first thing we did was cut out places where homes are very expensive, like Seattle, Washington or San Francisco, California or Portland, Oregon. We want someplace that is cheap where you can park a lot of cars and play loud music. So, you can cross off places where it's too hot or too dry or too wet - bad weather. And, we want to avoid tornadoes, hurricanes, flooding, earthquakes, blizzards and deserts. That rules out most of the middle of the country, California, Texas, Arizona, Utah, New Mexico, Montana and most of the Gulf of Mexico states, and the far north both east and west. Some people don't like living in flat lands - they prefer mountains with trees and scenery. We want a place that has rivers, lakes, and less traffic. So, after ruling out those places (there are still some rural places in California, Oregon, and Washington, but they're not ideal for one reason or another). Years ago Stephen Gaskin and his family opted to move from San Francisco to Tennessee to be on The Farm. So, I started to consider places like Nashville and Memphis where Rita could still continue playing in her band and I could park my cars and work out of my home office on the internet. In a recent survey of great places to retire Chattanooga was at the top of the list. Go figure. I've been reading about how Chattanooga is experiencing a resurgence of vitality in the city: very low rates for electricity due to good management by the Tennessee Valley Authority. And very fast network connections too. You can buy a nice house in Chattanooga for $150,000 or rent a house for around $1000 a month; car registration is $28; $2 a year to register your boat; you can establish a corporation for $150. So, living costs would be a lot cheaper in Chattanooga than some other places. What is there to do there? We don't want to be out in the sticks with no culture or entertainment. We want to live near a town or city where there are lakes and river for rafting and caves to explore, and trails for mountain biking. And, there are historical sites too; Washington D.C. is just a days drive away. So, in a quick review of the positives of living in Chattanooga: there is cheap housing; cheap energy; cheap water; cheap land; low taxes; and low bureaucracy. There are green lands, mountains, rivers and lakes and fire flies out in nature.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
So, why? Why exactly, are you so mean to people? You sound like you're under a lot of stress lately. Maybe you've got a heavy workload and deadlines to meet - I don't know. But, I don't think I've ever met anyone on the internet as cantankerous as you are. I've been following your conversations for over ten years and you just seem to be getting more and more obnoxious the older you get. You used to be at least informative, but lately you seem to be on a real mean streak. Why don't you just lay it all out so we can understand what you're getting at? You've gone way past personal and into a dark area where I don't think I want to go. But, I'm all ears if you want to tell me what's up with you. Otherwise, it will just remain a mystery I guess. I think many of us here are beginning to think you're really getting upset about this posting hobby. Is there anything I can do to make amends. I'm sorry if I ever posted anything that offends you. I don't know you or Barry or Ann from Adam, but if this goes on much longer I'm going to have to complain to Rick or Alex. This is getting very close to being just plain abusive behavior on your part. Are you JELLOS, or what? On 11/23/2013 4:13 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Your so-called opinion is, of course, laughably off-base. (If anyone takes Richard seriously enough to want to know why I say that, just ask.)* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: It sounds about right to me, and in my opinion you are JELLOS when other people post to your buddies.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
Your so-called opinion is, of course, laughably off-base. (If anyone takes Richard seriously enough to want to know why I say that, just ask.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: So, why? Why exactly, are you so mean to people? You sound like you're under a lot of stress lately. Maybe you've got a heavy workload and deadlines to meet - I don't know. But, I don't think I've ever met anyone on the internet as cantankerous as you are. I've been following your conversations for over ten years and you just seem to be getting more and more obnoxious the older you get. You used to be at least informative, but lately you seem to be on a real mean streak. Why don't you just lay it all out so we can understand what you're getting at? You've gone way past personal and into a dark area where I don't think I want to go. But, I'm all ears if you want to tell me what's up with you. Otherwise, it will just remain a mystery I guess. I think many of us here are beginning to think you're really getting upset about this posting hobby. Is there anything I can do to make amends. I'm sorry if I ever posted anything that offends you. I don't know you or Barry or Ann from Adam, but if this goes on much longer I'm going to have to complain to Rick or Alex. This is getting very close to being just plain abusive behavior on your part. Are you JELLOS, or what? On 11/23/2013 4:13 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Your so-called opinion is, of course, laughably off-base. (If anyone takes Richard seriously enough to want to know why I say that, just ask.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: It sounds about right to me, and in my opinion you are JELLOS when other people post to your buddies.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
The problem is, that it's just to easy to post messages on the internet, without in any way being responsible for what we say. When people post anonymously, for whatever reason, they don't have to be accountable for their own words. I'm as guilty probably as the next guy for being hard to get along with, but I take full responsibility for what I say, good, bad or mean, by signing my name to every post I make these days. You've probably got your reasons for keeping your identity secret, but for those of us that don't have anything to hide, honesty is the best way to communicate. You don't seem to be a bad guy from what I've read and in person, Barry and Judy might be nice people too. But, I'm with Buck on this - it's gotten way out of hand lately. In fact, I'm getting embarrassed to be a part of this group anymore. I came here for some spiritual help a long time ago, but it's just not working out like I thought it would. Something good is getting lost in the conversation I think. You know, as time passes, people and friends tend to get spread out all over the world and we and our relatives are scattered far and wide. Families sometimes grow up not even knowing each other, and brothers, sisters, moms and dads are separated by state lines and time zones. When this happens, it's important that we all make an effort to stay in touch and affirm what it is that makes our friendship so special. Well, I haven't forgotten the time we TMers spent together. And, if I know any of you people, I have certainly missed your companionship and being able to get together more often. I know, though, that we have a special bond, which will endure any distance and time, no matter how great. Anyway, if you ever get out to my place, we will have plenty of time to Be. There will also be plenty of time to just sit on the porch and watch the moon climb over the mountain. Thanks for any spiritual help you've been able to give me. I appreciate it, really. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to, but lately I've been feeling pretty depressed reading some of the comments posted here. Go figure. On 11/23/2013 8:55 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: What a cowardly, and clueless, response from you, Barry. You have done as much as anybody to sow discord here, and bring up topics, incessantly, that are on your agenda, whether, or not, they are of any interest to others. You are really the last person here who should be writing this holier than thou screed - it doesn't make you sound mature, thoughtful, reflective, or insightful, at all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: September 9, 2012, Richard, that's when Judy started her mission, whatever it is. Do not flatter yourself, Share. Judy's mission, whatever it is, started with her second post to FFL, back on May 18, 2005. That's when she admitted to having stalked one of her old enemies from alt.meditation.transcendental to FFL, taking some quotes from one of his posts here, and reposting them back on a.m.t. to further her vendetta against him there. She then commenced the same vendetta here on FFL, one that has not let up in any way in the years since. Along the way she did exactly the same thing with other posters she didn't like -- Curtis, Vaj, Sally Sunshine, Ruth, and many others. You might not recognize some of the names, because they grew so tired of 1) her unceasing harassment and 2) the fact that she had lowered this forum to such a low level of constant bickering and argumentation that they found nothing worth sticking around for. That probably was the goal of her mission in the first place, to drive away anyone who didn't bow to her pose as the authority in all things, She Who Must Not Be Contradicted, And Who Must Be Obeyed In All Things. :-) You're small potatoes, Share. She only focuses on you these days because you're one of the *only* people left on the forum who haven't caught on to her act, and as a result just ignore her as the vindictive, know-nothing ego-beast she is. Her whole pursuit of you is *not* (as you'd like to believe) because you're special. It's because you're SUCH A SUCKER. She knows that in you she's found someone with an ego as fragile and as sensitive as hers, and so whenever she or one of her minions attacks you or pokes fun at you, you'll feel that you have to reply. YOU HAVE NEVER 'GOTTEN' THAT SHE *WANTS* YOU TO REPLY. She *lives* for her enemies replying to her attacks and/or rebutting them. *No matter what happens and what is said*, she considers each and every one of the ensuing exchanges a victory. She claims to have won all of them. So the game IS really all about getting suckers to respond. In this sense, she is *exactly* like Richard. *His* goal is to try to poke and prod at people until they respond to him; then he's proved
Re: [FairfieldLife] Where People Live
/You are a success the moment you begin moving toward a goal. - Vince Lombardi http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/v/vince_lombardi.html%20 /On 11/23/2013 4:19 PM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I once drove from FF to Knoxville taking a highway through gorgeous, old mountain range. Tennessee is beautiful. Some friends of mine who lived and worked in California realized that financially they could not retire there. They literally visited lots of places popular on lists of places to retire. It came down to Tennessee and one other place. But they are a non church attending lesbian couple and decided that Ft. Collins, CO suited them better from the lifestyle point of view. They are very happy there, hiking and shopping at Trader Joes, with hub airport an hour away and reasonable weather most of the year. I think Chattanooga would be perfect for you and Rita. And one of my grannys was born there (-: On Saturday, November 23, 2013 2:18 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Inline image 1 Someday soon we are going to be selling everything and packing up what's left to move to a place that's right for us. There are good reasons to move and good reason to stay where we are. Each area has its pros and cons. Every place you live is a compromise and there is no perfect place For example some place have good weather all year like Laguna Beach, California, and some places have weather that sucks, like Cut Bank, Montana. For others, weather is perhaps not as big of a deal. Most people like what they already know and the older people get the more they have resistance to change. For me, moving isn't a big deal, since I spent eighteen years a military brat, living in over ten U.S. states, England and Japan. After college I lived in California for thirteen years, both north and south, and then moved to Austin, Texas for twelve years. Recently Rita and I visited her hometown, Detroit, and visited her sister for a few weeks. And, I've driven through most of the U.S. at one time or another. I love northern California and the Escondido area around San Diego - lots of business opportunities;good schools; avocados.. These are the many reasons people like to live near the ocean or the mountains. But, there are some negatives also, like in California where the state is struggling, which means the cities are now struggling. The bureaucracy is increasing out there. Some people are getting tired of dealing high property taxes - Prop 13 sets property tax on homes at 1% - and sales taxes are going up all the time. If you buy a $1M home you'll pay $10,000 just in taxes to live in San Diego County! Is there some place that would be an almost ideal place to live? If you take out a map of the U.S. you can easily cross off several locations. The first thing we did was cut out places where homes are very expensive, like Seattle, Washington or San Francisco, California or Portland, Oregon. We want someplace that is cheap where you can park a lot of cars and play loud music. So, you can cross off places where it's too hot or too dry or too wet - bad weather. And, we want to avoid tornadoes, hurricanes, flooding, earthquakes, blizzards and deserts. That rules out most of the middle of the country, California, Texas, Arizona, Utah, New Mexico, Montana and most of the Gulf of Mexico states, and the far north both east and west. Some people don't like living in flat lands - they prefer mountains with trees and scenery. We want a place that has rivers, lakes, and less traffic. So, after ruling out those places (there are still some rural places in California, Oregon, and Washington, but they're not ideal for one reason or another). Years ago Stephen Gaskin and his family opted to move from San Francisco to Tennessee to be on The Farm. So, I started to consider places like Nashville and Memphis where Rita could still continue playing in her band and I could park my cars and work out of my home office on the internet. In a recent survey of great places to retire Chattanooga was at the top of the list. Go figure. I've been reading about how Chattanooga is experiencing a resurgence of vitality in the city: very low rates for electricity due to good management by the Tennessee Valley Authority. And very fast network connections too. You can buy a nice house in Chattanooga for $150,000 or rent a house for around $1000 a month; car registration is $28; $2 a year to register your boat; you can establish a corporation for $150. So, living costs would be a lot cheaper in Chattanooga than some other places. What is there to do there? We don't want to be out in the sticks with no culture or entertainment. We want to live near a town or city where there are lakes and river for rafting and caves to explore, and trails for mountain biking. And, there are historical sites too; Washington D.C. is just a days drive away. So, in a quick review of the
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
Well, I guess that just about says it all, doesn't it? On 11/23/2013 4:45 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Your so-called opinion is, of course, laughably off-base. (If anyone takes Richard seriously enough to want to know why I say that, just ask.)* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: So, why? Why exactly, are you so mean to people? You sound like you're under a lot of stress lately. Maybe you've got a heavy workload and deadlines to meet - I don't know. But, I don't think I've ever met anyone on the internet as cantankerous as you are. I've been following your conversations for over ten years and you just seem to be getting more and more obnoxious the older you get. You used to be at least informative, but lately you seem to be on a real mean streak. Why don't you just lay it all out so we can understand what you're getting at? You've gone way past personal and into a dark area where I don't think I want to go. But, I'm all ears if you want to tell me what's up with you. Otherwise, it will just remain a mystery I guess. I think many of us here are beginning to think you're really getting upset about this posting hobby. Is there anything I can do to make amends. I'm sorry if I ever posted anything that offends you. I don't know you or Barry or Ann from Adam, but if this goes on much longer I'm going to have to complain to Rick or Alex. This is getting very close to being just plain abusive behavior on your part. Are you JELLOS, or what? On 11/23/2013 4:13 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: *Your so-called opinion is, of course, laughably off-base. (If anyone takes Richard seriously enough to want to know why I say that, just ask.)* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: It sounds about right to me, and in my opinion you are JELLOS when other people post to your buddies.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Right Place, Right Time
This got me to thinking too, about being in the right place at the right time. I wonder how much being in the right place at the right time is a matter of personal choice or just plain old karma. As I get older I've begun to think back about the choices I made in the past, and why I made those choices. Only a few times can I remember actually deciding what to do - there's always some force involved that is often unseen or accounted for. Most of the time being where I was was not something I had much control over - it was mostly a matter of necessity and/or survival. Most of us don't get to make real choices - we think we do, but mainly we make choices because of finances that seem to dictate where we go, how we live, and what we do. But, if you look back and examine things and events real closely, you may find that things and events happen for a reason, sometimes for reasons we don't understand at the time. Everything is connected and every action we take comes from a cause - there's not much free will when you really think about it. If we've all lived lives in the past, you'll realize that there's nothing much we can do now to change what came before - all we can do now is try to make things better for ourselves in the future. For some, being in the right place at the right times is just a matter of fate, but I think most of what happens to us is the result of what we did in the past, which we often don't even understand. If we could go back and make another different decision, who knows what would happen? Karma is a bitch! Remember the future. On 11/23/2013 8:39 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Bein' in the right place at the right time...
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Right Place, Right Time
Richard, MMY stated to take the path of least resistance. That is the more likely the correct alternative. Jyotish can help in that regard. But some people have a problem with that. IMO, they end up fighting for a lost cause. FWIW. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: This got me to thinking too, about being in the right place at the right time. I wonder how much being in the right place at the right time is a matter of personal choice or just plain old karma. As I get older I've begun to think back about the choices I made in the past, and why I made those choices. Only a few times can I remember actually deciding what to do - there's always some force involved that is often unseen or accounted for. Most of the time being where I was was not something I had much control over - it was mostly a matter of necessity and/or survival. Most of us don't get to make real choices - we think we do, but mainly we make choices because of finances that seem to dictate where we go, how we live, and what we do. But, if you look back and examine things and events real closely, you may find that things and events happen for a reason, sometimes for reasons we don't understand at the time. Everything is connected and every action we take comes from a cause - there's not much free will when you really think about it. If we've all lived lives in the past, you'll realize that there's nothing much we can do now to change what came before - all we can do now is try to make things better for ourselves in the future. For some, being in the right place at the right times is just a matter of fate, but I think most of what happens to us is the result of what we did in the past, which we often don't even understand. If we could go back and make another different decision, who knows what would happen? Karma is a bitch! Remember the future. On 11/23/2013 8:39 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Bein' in the right place at the right time...
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Right Place, Right Time
John, I also thought it interesting that Maharishi said that when you're taking a test or have a bunch of tasks to do, do the easy ones first to build up momentum. Then do the difficult ones. On Saturday, November 23, 2013 5:29 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, MMY stated to take the path of least resistance. That is the more likely the correct alternative. Jyotish can help in that regard. But some people have a problem with that. IMO, they end up fighting for a lost cause. FWIW. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: This got me to thinking too, about being in the right place at the right time. I wonder how much being in the right place at the right time is a matter of personal choice or just plain old karma. As I get older I've begun to think back about the choices I made in the past, and why I made those choices. Only a few times can I remember actually deciding what to do - there's always some force involved that is often unseen or accounted for. Most of the time being where I was was not something I had much control over - it was mostly a matter of necessity and/or survival. Most of us don't get to make real choices - we think we do, but mainly we make choices because of finances that seem to dictate where we go, how we live, and what we do. But, if you look back and examine things and events real closely, you may find that things and events happen for a reason, sometimes for reasons we don't understand at the time. Everything is connected and every action we take comes from a cause - there's not much free will when you really think about it. If we've all lived lives in the past, you'll realize that there's nothing much we can do now to change what came before - all we can do now is try to make things better for ourselves in the future. For some, being in the right place at the right times is just a matter of fate, but I think most of what happens to us is the result of what we did in the past, which we often don't even understand. If we could go back and make another different decision, who knows what would happen? Karma is a bitch! Remember the future. On 11/23/2013 8:39 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Bein' in the right place at the right time...
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RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Message from Ravi
that makes sense to me, thanks. On Sat, 11/23/13, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Message from Ravi To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 23, 2013, 2:54 AM Generally, I don't post stuff for people. But, in this case, I did so out of fairness. It didn't seem right to let a possibly false accusation stand, with the accused unable to respond. I told Ravi that I would post this one response, and that's it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Sorta seems to defeat the purpose of banning someone if others post their material for them. On Fri, 11/22/13, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Message from Ravi To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 22, 2013, 4:43 AM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: This is why you all should morn Ravi's dismissal from FFL and celebrate his unique style of blessing everyone with his personal attention. Remember Bill - I don't associate with trailer trash like you. I have nothing but contempt, disgust and hostility for dishonest, unintelligent like you. You couldn't withstand the heat of my confrontation. Don't flatter yourself - you and your family, your whole bigoted, unintelligent, insensitive trailer trash generations are beneath my status, my dignity, my intelligence, the sensitivity, beauty and awesomeness of my personal consciousness. And don't be so desperate. Emily's a personal friend of mine and she knows me very well, and she's laughing behind your back - Don't embarrass and humiliate yourself. Have some dignity, hope you find your conscience. It is my compassion and kindness I have entertained a person like you for this long. May the Universe have mercy on your pitiful, dishonest soul. So what is this, a current private email Ravi just sent you? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: This is in response to emptybill's accusations that I have harassed her wife. This is nothing but a vicious, malicious lie. I have stretched the limits to confront, shock and humiliate emptybill but to suggest I ever contacted his wife is hilarious. Emptybill had accidentally emailed me last year and we have had private conversations, I have all emails with me and they were all cordial and I even wished him luck after he talked about his marriage after a 10 year live-in relationship. I'm really shocked at emptybill's dishonesty and I have warned him and the moderators to disallow these kinds of malicious lies. Ravi.
[FairfieldLife] TM Nazis, Again??
I received some communication from someone I know who is in the Domes and this person told me some interesting things that I had not heard before. I have changed some of the wording to keep this person's identity confidential, but in essence she said that the TMO or I guess more accurately the powers that be at MUM, are paying 2 full time monitors to regulate activity in the Lady's Dome - to wit, they go about taking names of people who are sleeping during program. Subsequently these folks are called in for a talking to for lying down during any part of program except rest AND people are being taken to task for not getting high enough off the foam. Anyone else know of this and is it happening in the Men's Dome?
RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Right Place, Right Time
Share, I agree with your strategy. That's how jyotish works. You'll realize that the world is magical if you know the right path. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, I also thought it interesting that Maharishi said that when you're taking a test or have a bunch of tasks to do, do the easy ones first to build up momentum. Then do the difficult ones. On Saturday, November 23, 2013 5:29 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, MMY stated to take the path of least resistance. That is the more likely the correct alternative. Jyotish can help in that regard. But some people have a problem with that. IMO, they end up fighting for a lost cause. FWIW. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: This got me to thinking too, about being in the right place at the right time. I wonder how much being in the right place at the right time is a matter of personal choice or just plain old karma. As I get older I've begun to think back about the choices I made in the past, and why I made those choices. Only a few times can I remember actually deciding what to do - there's always some force involved that is often unseen or accounted for. Most of the time being where I was was not something I had much control over - it was mostly a matter of necessity and/or survival. Most of us don't get to make real choices - we think we do, but mainly we make choices because of finances that seem to dictate where we go, how we live, and what we do. But, if you look back and examine things and events real closely, you may find that things and events happen for a reason, sometimes for reasons we don't understand at the time. Everything is connected and every action we take comes from a cause - there's not much free will when you really think about it. If we've all lived lives in the past, you'll realize that there's nothing much we can do now to change what came before - all we can do now is try to make things better for ourselves in the future. For some, being in the right place at the right times is just a matter of fate, but I think most of what happens to us is the result of what we did in the past, which we often don't even understand. If we could go back and make another different decision, who knows what would happen? Karma is a bitch! Remember the future. On 11/23/2013 8:39 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Bein' in the right place at the right time...
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Message from Ravi
You sound really JELLOS, Ann. This is a very good example of how someone posting on the internet can just let fly with any old slur they can think up and hit the send button, with almost zero accountability. On most moderated forums this kind of offensive comment would be cause for almost instant banishment, if not by the moderator, a shunning by the other participants. This reply of yours is totally uncalled for - there's just no excuse for rudeness, bad manners or poor netiquette, least of all slander toward someone you don't even know. It's just a disgrace to read this kind of ugly hatefulness on a spiritual forum. I can't figure it out. This post of yours has all the earmarks of someone who has absolutely nothing better to do than post hateful comments to strangers - no fun, no useful information, no spiritual comment, no understanding - just pure hatred. I could be wrong about this post of yours since it's really difficult sometimes to tell what someone's true feelings are, but it sure looks to me like to me you're prejudiced against some groups of people based on their birth circumstances. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you haven't given me any reason to think otherwise, based on your numerous comments about where I was born. Go figure. Would someone, anyone, please help me understand this kind of behavior? On 11/22/2013 8:44 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: This has got to be the most screwed up forum on Yahoo! A guy gets his real name posted to the group, so he curses the first guy; then the guy gets booted for cursing; and then the moderator posts the real name and the private email of the cursing guy; and then the guy that got cursed posts the private email of the guy that cursed him, while the moderators are sleeping. Go figure. It always seems to take you to clarify things for us dolts here, Richard. We just wouldn't be able to follow this ourselves without your step by step regurgitation and then subsequent skewing of the facts. What would we do without you? Oh, I know, enjoy this place more. Now go scam some more people out of money via the internet while cruising FFL all day. What a life you lead. On 11/21/2013 10:43 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: This is why you all should morn Ravi's dismissal from FFL and celebrate his unique style of blessing everyone with his personal attention. Remember Bill - I don't associate with trailer trash like you. I have nothing but contempt, disgust and hostility for dishonest, unintelligent like you. You couldn't withstand the heat of my confrontation. Don't flatter yourself - you and your family, your whole bigoted, unintelligent, insensitive trailer trash generations are beneath my status, my dignity, my intelligence, the sensitivity, beauty and awesomeness of my personal consciousness. And don't be so desperate. Emily's a personal friend of mine and she knows me very well, and she's laughing behind your back - Don't embarrass and humiliate yourself. Have some dignity, hope you find your conscience. It is my compassion and kindness I have entertained a person like you for this long. May the Universe have mercy on your pitiful, dishonest soul. So what is this, a current private email Ravi just sent you? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: This is in response to emptybill's accusations that I have harassed her wife. This is nothing but a vicious, malicious lie. I have stretched the limits to confront, shock and humiliate emptybill but to suggest I ever contacted his wife is hilarious. Emptybill had accidentally emailed me last year and we have had private conversations, I have all emails with me and they were all cordial and I even wished him luck after he talked about his marriage after a 10 year live-in relationship. I'm really shocked at emptybill's dishonesty and I have warned him and the moderators to disallow these kinds of malicious lies. Ravi.
[FairfieldLife] An Effective Online Pedegogy
So, I'm sitting here in my home office, and even though it's Saturday night, these students still need help posting their essays to the class and taking their online exams - and the emails just keep on coming and the phone is ringing off the hook. But, at least I'm working from home now and not in that tall building on campus anymore. [image: Inline image 1] One teacher I know told me he 'didn't work on weekends' and I told him that if he wanted to teach an online course, it's the weekends when the students need the most help doing their homework! So, I got the job. Go figure. My Mission Statement: We are aware that learning is a complex, inter-related series of system processes. Instruction requires the employment of cognitive psychology in the design and structure of online teaching to enhance the goal at hand: faster, easier, and to retain and assimilate knowledge. In short, what is needed is an effective pedagogy. When your course or presentation is made interesting and interactive with multimedia, your audience will stay longer, return more often, and retain more knowledge. The primary tool to attain this goal are the new internet media course tools with technical support in an on-line or off-line setting. The incorporation of multimedia and the internet in computer based training and distance learning has made the dream of teachers, trainers, and/or learners come true. Richard J. Williams, A.A.S., B.S. Specialist, Blackboard Learning 9.1 'Online Courses Attract Degree Holders, Survey Finds' New York Times: http://www.nytimes/education/online-courses/surveyhttp://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/21/education/online-courses-attract-degree-holders-survey-finds.html?_r=0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackboard_Learning_System
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Message from Ravi
So, what is it, exactly, that makes sense to you about this incident between Ravi and Bill? It sure doesn't make any sense to me - that's why I've been trying to put it into my own words to figure it out. It just sounds to me like somebody is telling some fibs. There's nothing wrong with living in a trailer - I lived in one for a year when I was going to school back in 1963 - now I've got a big house to live in, so what? But, it is a very serious accusation to accuse someone of stalking someone's wife. Go figure. On 11/23/2013 6:53 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: that makes sense to me, thanks. On Sat, 11/23/13, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Message from Ravi To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 23, 2013, 2:54 AM Generally, I don't post stuff for people. But, in this case, I did so out of fairness. It didn't seem right to let a possibly false accusation stand, with the accused unable to respond. I told Ravi that I would post this one response, and that's it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Sorta seems to defeat the purpose of banning someone if others post their material for them. On Fri, 11/22/13, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Message from Ravi To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 22, 2013, 4:43 AM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: This is why you all should morn Ravi's dismissal from FFL and celebrate his unique style of blessing everyone with his personal attention. Remember Bill - I don't associate with trailer trash like you. I have nothing but contempt, disgust and hostility for dishonest, unintelligent like you. You couldn't withstand the heat of my confrontation. Don't flatter yourself - you and your family, your whole bigoted, unintelligent, insensitive trailer trash generations are beneath my status, my dignity, my intelligence, the sensitivity, beauty and awesomeness of my personal consciousness. And don't be so desperate. Emily's a personal friend of mine and she knows me very well, and she's laughing behind your back - Don't embarrass and humiliate yourself. Have some dignity, hope you find your conscience. It is my compassion and kindness I have entertained a person like you for this long. May the Universe have mercy on your pitiful, dishonest soul. So what is this, a current private email Ravi just sent you? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: This is in response to emptybill's accusations that I have harassed her wife. This is nothing but a vicious, malicious lie. I have stretched the limits to confront, shock and humiliate emptybill but to suggest I ever contacted his wife is hilarious. Emptybill had accidentally emailed me last year and we have had private conversations, I have all emails with me and they were all cordial and I even wished him luck after he talked about his marriage after a 10 year live-in relationship. I'm really shocked at emptybill's dishonesty and I have warned him and the moderators to disallow these kinds of malicious lies. Ravi.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Right Place, Right Time
Karma, or the results of our actions, can go both ways - good or bad, depending on your outlook. Sometimes bad things turn into good things. Remember the saying about someone's death that they are going to a 'better' place? Everyone knows that MMY was a born optimist, and those who have been around him have caught on to this feeling of optimistic outlook, noting with subtle humor that the best of all possible worlds is the world that we are living in right now, that is, we think this world is as good a place to Be as any other relative existence, since to be otherwise would entail not being at all, keeping in mind that life without absolute knowledge is like living in abject ignorance of the real all the time! The story of 'Candide' by Voltaire is a satire depicting in caricature the irony of those who profess unbounded optimism for all circumstances, regardless of the obvious suffering of normal mankind. This attitude is supported by the theory of natural order, which states that there is a reaction to every action, and that nature involves a law of causation, which is good, because then man is already determined - there's no need for worry - we all get the best we can possibly get. You're going to get only as much enlightenment as you're going to get! According to Maynard Mack, the German Philosopher Gottfried Leibniz provides Voltaire with a specific target in Candide; that being Voltaire's version of optimism reduced for satiric purposes to a facile formula (Mack 519): He proved admirably that there cannot possibly be an effect without a cause and that in the best of all possible worlds the Baron's castle was the best of all castles and his wife the best of all Baronesses. (Candide 522) Thus according to Voltaire, everything is for the best in this best of all possible worlds. However, everyone knows that we live in a world full of suffering. In fact, one of the marks of humanity consists of the recognition of suffering, called 'dukkha' in Sanskrit, the first link in the Buddha's Chain of Dependent Origination. The central theme for Voltaire is the dichotomy between optimism and pessimism, two subjects that interested greatly the philosophers and writers of Voltaire's time. The central question being that, if this is the best of all possible worlds, then why do people suffer? Gottfried Leibniz was Immanuel Kant's teacher, and it was he, Leibnitz, who first coined the term 'the best of all possible worlds. (Bahm 76). If, as Mack proposes, Voltaire's Candide is an exaggerated satire on Leibnitz, it would be interesting to note what, exactly, Gottfried Leibnitz himself said about this world. Go figure. According to my Professor, A. J. Bahm, whoever believes that life is worth while because it contains more good than evil is an optimist. Optimists vary in outlook from those who, like Leibnitz, believe that God created this best of all possible worlds, to those who feel that life has a preponderance of good over evil in life or in the world. Pessimists think that evil predominates over good. An extreme pessimist should of course commit suicide, unless he feels that such an act would bring him more suffering. However, most people are born optimists, and believe that somehow everything will turn out for the best, in the end. It is obvious that what really got to Voltaire was not the philosophy of optimism but hypocrisy itself: He asked alms of several grave personages who all told him him e that if he continued to beg, he would be shut up in a house of correction and set to hard labor (Candide 525). The meaning of the Sanskrit word dhukka, or suffering, means much more than just physical suffering. It would be interesting to speculate just how much Leibnitz and Voltaire knew about the pessimistic philosophies of ancient India, and how these two opposing views on life were reconciled in the Buddha's Middle Way. By way of a juxtaposition to Candide and its satire on optimism, we might consider that to do nothing, that is, pessimism, would be the other extreme, opposed to positive work in the world. According to Bahm, a 'Middle Wayer' would say that, though there are both good and evil in the world, and though the outcome may be uncertain, still it is possible to improve our lot if we try in appropriate ways by being pragmatic. William James said concerning pragmatism: Every such ideal realized will be one moment in the world's salvation. (Bahm 286) A Middle Wayer is a 'meliorist', who believes that the fate of each person's values is partly under his own control and that he or she has the power to increase such values, which makes the effort largely worthwhile. Works Cited: Bahm, A. J. (1972). Introduction to Philosophy. Bombay: South Asia Pub. Mack, Maynard. Francois-Marie Arouet de Voltaire. World Masterpeices. New York: Norton 2000. 518-520. Voltaire. Candide. In World Masterpieces Ed. Maynard Mack. New York:
Re: [FairfieldLife] An Effective Online Pedegogy
Hey, Richard I just wanted to say thank you for all the great posts this evening about knowledge. Mom and I were out shopping today, including Whole Foods! I'm pretty zonked right now. We're also watching a TV show about a cute litter of puppies called Too Cute. Evidently Saturday night leaves a lot to be desired TV-wise! My last job at MUM was as the Distance Education Coordinator for the Computer Science Dept. We sent out videotapes, that's how long ago that was! On Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:08 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm sitting here in my home office, and even though it's Saturday night, these students still need help posting their essays to the class and taking their online exams - and the emails just keep on coming and the phone is ringing off the hook. But, at least I'm working from home now and not in that tall building on campus anymore. One teacher I know told me he 'didn't work on weekends' and I told him that if he wanted to teach an online course, it's the weekends when the students need the most help doing their homework! So, I got the job. Go figure. My Mission Statement: We are aware that learning is a complex, inter-related series of system processes. Instruction requires the employment of cognitive psychology in the design and structure of online teaching to enhance the goal at hand: faster, easier, and to retain and assimilate knowledge. In short, what is needed is an effective pedagogy. When your course or presentation is made interesting and interactive with multimedia, your audience will stay longer, return more often, and retain more knowledge. The primary tool to attain this goal are the new internet media course tools with technical support in an on-line or off-line setting. The incorporation of multimedia and the internet in computer based training and distance learning has made the dream of teachers, trainers, and/or learners come true. Richard J. Williams, A.A.S., B.S. Specialist, Blackboard Learning 9.1 'Online Courses Attract Degree Holders, Survey Finds' New York Times: http://www.nytimes/education/online-courses/survey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackboard_Learning_System
[FairfieldLife] RE: Right Place, Right Time
Re I also thought it interesting that Maharishi said that when you have a bunch of tasks to do, do the easy ones first to build up momentum. Then do the difficult ones.: The exact opposite of my approach. When I have a series of tasks to get out the way I always do the ones I dislike most first so that I'm always advancing towards the tasks I find easiest - even enjoyable. That's better psychology - at least it suits my temperament. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, I also thought it interesting that Maharishi said that when you're taking a test or have a bunch of tasks to do, do the easy ones first to build up momentum. Then do the difficult ones. On Saturday, November 23, 2013 5:29 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, MMY stated to take the path of least resistance. That is the more likely the correct alternative. Jyotish can help in that regard. But some people have a problem with that. IMO, they end up fighting for a lost cause. FWIW. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: This got me to thinking too, about being in the right place at the right time. I wonder how much being in the right place at the right time is a matter of personal choice or just plain old karma. As I get older I've begun to think back about the choices I made in the past, and why I made those choices. Only a few times can I remember actually deciding what to do - there's always some force involved that is often unseen or accounted for. Most of the time being where I was was not something I had much control over - it was mostly a matter of necessity and/or survival. Most of us don't get to make real choices - we think we do, but mainly we make choices because of finances that seem to dictate where we go, how we live, and what we do. But, if you look back and examine things and events real closely, you may find that things and events happen for a reason, sometimes for reasons we don't understand at the time. Everything is connected and every action we take comes from a cause - there's not much free will when you really think about it. If we've all lived lives in the past, you'll realize that there's nothing much we can do now to change what came before - all we can do now is try to make things better for ourselves in the future. For some, being in the right place at the right times is just a matter of fate, but I think most of what happens to us is the result of what we did in the past, which we often don't even understand. If we could go back and make another different decision, who knows what would happen? Karma is a bitch! Remember the future. On 11/23/2013 8:39 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Bein' in the right place at the right time...
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
fair enough - I don't care on way or another. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: What a cowardly, and clueless, response from you, Barry. You have done as much as anybody to sow discord here, and bring up topics, incessantly, that are on your agenda, whether, or not, they are of any interest to others. You are really the last person here who should be writing this holier than thou screed - it doesn't make you sound mature, thoughtful, reflective, or insightful, at all. Who on earth could CARE about being perceived by others as any of those things? :-)
[FairfieldLife] RE: TM Nazis, Again??
Overseers. Well yes, and what is the problem(?). It's about pay for performance. If you are being paid to meditate and 'hop' then all the more certainly your employers should get some disciplined work (meditation) from you. It is called performance contract. This criteria calls for overseers for meditating is for the few folks who are still funded to be regularly attending the dome meditating and doing the long TM-sidhis yogic flying prescribed for on the Howard Settle grant program. Of the total number of people in the larger group meditation only a few remain now on the money grant. They got standards to keep up if they are getting money for it. Other meditators who were dropped from the grant program when it collapsed before for lack of money may well think these others are selling their souls to have to 'hop' just for money. Other people who before were there for having great and powerful meditation in the Domes may see it has become otherwise for some, a form of performance art for money, as another corruption of money. People see it differently. I think it is wonderful that people are generally a little more disciplined sitting up in meditation now and attending to the technique and adding to the group meditation field effect. It's a lot more awake in the Domes than some times ago when people would generally come in just laying down to sleep and miss the incredible opportunity of the field effect to meditate in the Domes. The lack of discipline was profound in those days. What a drag that was. It is a lot better now. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: I received some communication from someone I know who is in the Domes and this person told me some interesting things that I had not heard before. I have changed some of the wording to keep this person's identity confidential, but in essence she said that the TMO or I guess more accurately the powers that be at MUM, are paying 2 full time monitors to regulate activity in the Lady's Dome - to wit, they go about taking names of people who are sleeping during program. Subsequently these folks are called in for a talking to for lying down during any part of program except rest AND people are being taken to task for not getting high enough off the foam. Anyone else know of this and is it happening in the Men's Dome?
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
Dear Friends; As a group we must put an end to unkind posts here. Certainly we had been hooligan-ed again and again. In the very open nature of our forum community here hooliganism can transit through, now though as a group we certainly need to have much more consciousness against it and swift moderation in reaction. Against hooliganism here and any such hooliganists we clearly must better straighten and tighten things up with FFL alongside the Yahoo groups guidelines and be square with our own guidelines against unkindness as hooliganism to protect the very existence of our FFL group here. Or, without congruence of guideline we run the very real risk of running up against the Yahoo Groups guidelines themselves. Actually Turq's is a fair summary of a longer history. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364184 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364184 I feel Rick as owner here in conjunction with Yahoo Groups unkindness guidelines has good grounds to act swiftly and summarily on this. Rick would not even need to explain himself doing it. Most all understand that FFL was derailed and taken over by unkindness. Rick, get this over with and save the FFL group before Yahoo groups management closes it. The grounds are certainly clear for this, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: “They could take us all down in unkindness.” RW writes: It looks like the group needs a purging, again. Yes, In moderating the unkindness here on FFL, frankly I would urge Rick as the owner and supreme leader here to be much quicker to suspend the ad hominem as abuse and the unkindness it is when it occurs here. For instance, I should urge Rick as moral compass here to start with the instigators of the mean-girl-ing that has been going on here. It is unbearably unkind as it has gone on in form and could certainly terminate our whole group as it runs up against the Yahoo-groups guidelines. As its own form of hooliganism this is now the time to save FFL and put an end to the culture of the bad-girl-ing ad hominem that has charged in on FFL. Rick, as your friend and support in this I urge you to use a strong hand on those unkind trying to post on FFL. Be firm with this hooliganism on FFL, -Buck As a Group we must put an end to unkind postings and posters on FFL. Dear Fairfield Life and guest Yahoo-Groups Moderators; Yahoo! guideline says: “Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Rick, Keep a close watch out on the mean-girls club too. They could take us all down in unkindness. -Buck rick@... wrote: I don’t have time to keep a close watch out on anything on FFL, but if someone gets too outrageous and someone brings it to my attention, I usually say to wait and see if they simmer down, and if they don’t, I do something about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf OfBuck@... Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:55 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: A story of devotion Yes, to protect the very existence of our FFL community group we should close the membership at least of 'indifferent_netizen'/ or whoever that is here, before Yahoo catches up with us as a group for tolerating these kinds of unkind posts. There is a very real and present danger to the whole FFL group letting this writer and some of these other people write their hateful unkind abusive speech here. It is time. Already done. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Thanks Rick. You did the right thing to protect us all. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: “Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience. If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know.” Yes. This here is about the survival of our FFL list. Dear FFL, now more clearly than even before it is getting to be time to avert the danger of ultimate termination to our FFL group community before it becomes too late. Shutting the Fairfieldlife forum down has been tried by subversion like this before. We must act to protect ourselves. I call upon the moderation of this community to close
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Message from Ravi
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: You sound really JELLOS, Ann. This is a very good example of how someone posting on the internet can just let fly with any old slur they can think up and hit the send button, with almost zero accountability. On most moderated forums this kind of offensive comment would be cause for almost instant banishment, if not by the moderator, a shunning by the other participants. This reply of yours is totally uncalled for - there's just no excuse for rudeness, bad manners or poor netiquette, least of all slander toward someone you don't even know. It's just a disgrace to read this kind of ugly hatefulness on a spiritual forum. I can't figure it out. This post of yours has all the earmarks of someone who has absolutely nothing better to do than post hateful comments to strangers - no fun, no useful information, no spiritual comment, no understanding - just pure hatred. I could be wrong about this post of yours since it's really difficult sometimes to tell what someone's true feelings are, but it sure looks to me like to me you're prejudiced against some groups of people based on their birth circumstances. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you haven't given me any reason to think otherwise, based on your numerous comments about where I was born. Go figure. Would someone, anyone, please help me understand this kind of behavior? Maybe you could explain all of it Dickwad. Here is an example of your posting style made to Judy today. Now tell me who is full of hate, Dick. Richard the Benevolent spews across the page: It sounds about right to me, and in my opinion you are JELLOS when other people post to your buddies. And, I can't think of any other reason for you to try and be a communicator here - how long has it been since you posted anything interesting to read? Your attitude these days is hateful and pathetic and I'm not the only one to notice it. You've got almost zero support here anymore - maybe it's time for you to go back to Usenet where you came from. I can't think of anything else you could say that would make any of us want to be your friend on Facebook, that's fer sure! I'd sure not want to meet up with you at a yoga camp! Of all the informants I've read in the past ten years on the internet, I can say without the least hesitation, YOU SUCK the most! On 11/22/2013 8:44 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: This has got to be the most screwed up forum on Yahoo! A guy gets his real name posted to the group, so he curses the first guy; then the guy gets booted for cursing; and then the moderator posts the real name and the private email of the cursing guy; and then the guy that got cursed posts the private email of the guy that cursed him, while the moderators are sleeping. Go figure. It always seems to take you to clarify things for us dolts here, Richard. We just wouldn't be able to follow this ourselves without your step by step regurgitation and then subsequent skewing of the facts. What would we do without you? Oh, I know, enjoy this place more. Now go scam some more people out of money via the internet while cruising FFL all day. What a life you lead. On 11/21/2013 10:43 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: This is why you all should morn Ravi's dismissal from FFL and celebrate his unique style of blessing everyone with his personal attention. Remember Bill - I don't associate with trailer trash like you. I have nothing but contempt, disgust and hostility for dishonest, unintelligent like you. You couldn't withstand the heat of my confrontation. Don't flatter yourself - you and your family, your whole bigoted, unintelligent, insensitive trailer trash generations are beneath my status, my dignity, my intelligence, the sensitivity, beauty and awesomeness of my personal consciousness. And don't be so desperate. Emily's a personal friend of mine and she knows me very well, and she's laughing behind your back - Don't embarrass and humiliate yourself. Have some dignity, hope you find your conscience. It is my compassion and kindness I have entertained a person like you for this long. May the Universe have mercy on your pitiful, dishonest soul. So what is this, a current private email Ravi just sent you? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: This is in response to emptybill's accusations that I have harassed her wife. This is nothing but a vicious, malicious lie. I have stretched the limits to confront, shock and
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] An Effective Online Pedegogy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Hey, Richard I just wanted to say thank you for all the great posts this evening about knowledge. Mom and I were out shopping today, including Whole Foods! I'm pretty zonked right now. We're also watching a TV show about a cute litter of puppies called Too Cute. Evidently Saturday night leaves a lot to be desired TV-wise! My last job at MUM was as the Distance Education Coordinator for the Computer Science Dept. We sent out videotapes, that's how long ago that was! Why don't you and Richard take your posts to each other offline where the two of you can marvel at how inane they all are. Remember, save the bandwidth, or whatever it is Ricky continually goes on about. On Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:08 PM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: So, I'm sitting here in my home office, and even though it's Saturday night, these students still need help posting their essays to the class and taking their online exams - and the emails just keep on coming and the phone is ringing off the hook. But, at least I'm working from home now and not in that tall building on campus anymore. One teacher I know told me he 'didn't work on weekends' and I told him that if he wanted to teach an online course, it's the weekends when the students need the most help doing their homework! So, I got the job. Go figure. My Mission Statement: We are aware that learning is a complex, inter-related series of system processes. Instruction requires the employment of cognitive psychology in the design and structure of online teaching to enhance the goal at hand: faster, easier, and to retain and assimilate knowledge. In short, what is needed is an effective pedagogy. When your course or presentation is made interesting and interactive with multimedia, your audience will stay longer, return more often, and retain more knowledge. The primary tool to attain this goal are the new internet media course tools with technical support in an on-line or off-line setting. The incorporation of multimedia and the internet in computer based training and distance learning has made the dream of teachers, trainers, and/or learners come true. Richard J. Williams, A.A.S., B.S. Specialist, Blackboard Learning 9.1 'Online Courses Attract Degree Holders, Survey Finds' New York Times: http://www.nytimes/education/online-courses/survey http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/21/education/online-courses-attract-degree-holders-survey-finds.html?_r=0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackboard_Learning_System http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackboard_Learning_System
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] An Effective Online Pedegogy
Oh...yeshere is how it goes...the attack, then the reality rewrite, the defence of the rewrite, the attack on those who would call for honesty or question the attacker or the subsequent reality rewrite, then the victim shows up, and now the innocence gamewhat a sweet little girl Share is, so cute, so wholesome, so flirty in a childlike way. Richard is just overwhelmed by all this and is under the Share spelldon't feel bad Richard, Steve fell under it as well. Enjoyit's endless...I can't wait to do this again with her. The cycle will repeat. This isn't the first time, after all. Share, I get to be next, remember. Next time you feel like you need to go after someone, I want it to be me and I promise not to get mean. You may, I won't. That's my promise to you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Hey, Richard I just wanted to say thank you for all the great posts this evening about knowledge. Mom and I were out shopping today, including Whole Foods! I'm pretty zonked right now. We're also watching a TV show about a cute litter of puppies called Too Cute. Evidently Saturday night leaves a lot to be desired TV-wise! My last job at MUM was as the Distance Education Coordinator for the Computer Science Dept. We sent out videotapes, that's how long ago that was! Why don't you and Richard take your posts to each other offline where the two of you can marvel at how inane they all are. Remember, save the bandwidth, or whatever it is Ricky continually goes on about. On Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:08 PM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: So, I'm sitting here in my home office, and even though it's Saturday night, these students still need help posting their essays to the class and taking their online exams - and the emails just keep on coming and the phone is ringing off the hook. But, at least I'm working from home now and not in that tall building on campus anymore. One teacher I know told me he 'didn't work on weekends' and I told him that if he wanted to teach an online course, it's the weekends when the students need the most help doing their homework! So, I got the job. Go figure. My Mission Statement: We are aware that learning is a complex, inter-related series of system processes. Instruction requires the employment of cognitive psychology in the design and structure of online teaching to enhance the goal at hand: faster, easier, and to retain and assimilate knowledge. In short, what is needed is an effective pedagogy. When your course or presentation is made interesting and interactive with multimedia, your audience will stay longer, return more often, and retain more knowledge. The primary tool to attain this goal are the new internet media course tools with technical support in an on-line or off-line setting. The incorporation of multimedia and the internet in computer based training and distance learning has made the dream of teachers, trainers, and/or learners come true. Richard J. Williams, A.A.S., B.S. Specialist, Blackboard Learning 9.1 'Online Courses Attract Degree Holders, Survey Finds' New York Times: http://www.nytimes/education/online-courses/survey http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/21/education/online-courses-attract-degree-holders-survey-finds.html?_r=0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackboard_Learning_System http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackboard_Learning_System
[FairfieldLife] RE: Where People Live
Richard, I like this particular post of yours rolling out your thought process. I've been developing my criteria for moving as well, in the next 5 years or so. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Someday soon we are going to be selling everything and packing up what's left to move to a place that's right for us. There are good reasons to move and good reason to stay where we are. Each area has its pros and cons. Every place you live is a compromise and there is no perfect place For example some place have good weather all year like Laguna Beach, California, and some places have weather that sucks, like Cut Bank, Montana. For others, weather is perhaps not as big of a deal. Most people like what they already know and the older people get the more they have resistance to change. For me, moving isn't a big deal, since I spent eighteen years a military brat, living in over ten U.S. states, England and Japan. After college I lived in California for thirteen years, both north and south, and then moved to Austin, Texas for twelve years. Recently Rita and I visited her hometown, Detroit, and visited her sister for a few weeks. And, I've driven through most of the U.S. at one time or another. I love northern California and the Escondido area around San Diego - lots of business opportunities;good schools; avocados.. These are the many reasons people like to live near the ocean or the mountains. But, there are some negatives also, like in California where the state is struggling, which means the cities are now struggling. The bureaucracy is increasing out there. Some people are getting tired of dealing high property taxes - Prop 13 sets property tax on homes at 1% - and sales taxes are going up all the time. If you buy a $1M home you'll pay $10,000 just in taxes to live in San Diego County! Is there some place that would be an almost ideal place to live? If you take out a map of the U.S. you can easily cross off several locations. The first thing we did was cut out places where homes are very expensive, like Seattle, Washington or San Francisco, California or Portland, Oregon. We want someplace that is cheap where you can park a lot of cars and play loud music. So, you can cross off places where it's too hot or too dry or too wet - bad weather. And, we want to avoid tornadoes, hurricanes, flooding, earthquakes, blizzards and deserts. That rules out most of the middle of the country, California, Texas, Arizona, Utah, New Mexico, Montana and most of the Gulf of Mexico states, and the far north both east and west. Some people don't like living in flat lands - they prefer mountains with trees and scenery. We want a place that has rivers, lakes, and less traffic. So, after ruling out those places (there are still some rural places in California, Oregon, and Washington, but they're not ideal for one reason or another). Years ago Stephen Gaskin and his family opted to move from San Francisco to Tennessee to be on The Farm. So, I started to consider places like Nashville and Memphis where Rita could still continue playing in her band and I could park my cars and work out of my home office on the internet. In a recent survey of great places to retire Chattanooga was at the top of the list. Go figure. I've been reading about how Chattanooga is experiencing a resurgence of vitality in the city: very low rates for electricity due to good management by the Tennessee Valley Authority. And very fast network connections too. You can buy a nice house in Chattanooga for $150,000 or rent a house for around $1000 a month; car registration is $28; $2 a year to register your boat; you can establish a corporation for $150. So, living costs would be a lot cheaper in Chattanooga than some other places. What is there to do there? We don't want to be out in the sticks with no culture or entertainment. We want to live near a town or city where there are lakes and river for rafting and caves to explore, and trails for mountain biking. And, there are historical sites too; Washington D.C. is just a days drive away. So, in a quick review of the positives of living in Chattanooga: there is cheap housing; cheap energy; cheap water; cheap land; low taxes; and low bureaucracy. There are green lands, mountains, rivers and lakes and fire flies out in nature. And industry - Amazon is out there and Ikea, Home Depot, and a Whole Foods Market in town. The weather is not bad, does not get too hot and does not get extremely cold either. Tornadoes are rare. But, what about rednecks? Heck, I'm used to that, being one myself, but some places, even though they're located in the south, defy stereotypes, just like Austin, Texas, the home of live music. We might miss that, but there's Nashville and Memphis for music entertainment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Farm_(Tennessee)
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Message from Ravi
I am s hungry for jello. It's the only thing that comes to mind, every time I see the word JELLOS. I'm going to surrender to the urge to make something deliciously jello. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: You sound really JELLOS, Richard.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Right Place, Right Time
Seraphita, I totally *LOVE* this! I'm going to start with this approach immediately. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re I also thought it interesting that Maharishi said that when you have a bunch of tasks to do, do the easy ones first to build up momentum. Then do the difficult ones.: The exact opposite of my approach. When I have a series of tasks to get out the way I always do the ones I dislike most first so that I'm always advancing towards the tasks I find easiest - even enjoyable. That's better psychology - at least it suits my temperament. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, I also thought it interesting that Maharishi said that when you're taking a test or have a bunch of tasks to do, do the easy ones first to build up momentum. Then do the difficult ones. On Saturday, November 23, 2013 5:29 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, MMY stated to take the path of least resistance. That is the more likely the correct alternative. Jyotish can help in that regard. But some people have a problem with that. IMO, they end up fighting for a lost cause. FWIW. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: This got me to thinking too, about being in the right place at the right time. I wonder how much being in the right place at the right time is a matter of personal choice or just plain old karma. As I get older I've begun to think back about the choices I made in the past, and why I made those choices. Only a few times can I remember actually deciding what to do - there's always some force involved that is often unseen or accounted for. Most of the time being where I was was not something I had much control over - it was mostly a matter of necessity and/or survival. Most of us don't get to make real choices - we think we do, but mainly we make choices because of finances that seem to dictate where we go, how we live, and what we do. But, if you look back and examine things and events real closely, you may find that things and events happen for a reason, sometimes for reasons we don't understand at the time. Everything is connected and every action we take comes from a cause - there's not much free will when you really think about it. If we've all lived lives in the past, you'll realize that there's nothing much we can do now to change what came before - all we can do now is try to make things better for ourselves in the future. For some, being in the right place at the right times is just a matter of fate, but I think most of what happens to us is the result of what we did in the past, which we often don't even understand. If we could go back and make another different decision, who knows what would happen? Karma is a bitch! Remember the future. On 11/23/2013 8:39 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Bein' in the right place at the right time...
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
So Buck, stop posting unkindly. I find all of these posts of yours on unkindness, unkind. Maybe start with eliminating the word unkind from all of your posts. Just a friendly suggestion. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Dear Friends; As a group we must put an end to unkind posts here. Certainly we had been hooligan-ed again and again. In the very open nature of our forum community here hooliganism can transit through, now though as a group we certainly need to have much more consciousness against it and swift moderation in reaction. Against hooliganism here and any such hooliganists we clearly must better straighten and tighten things up with FFL alongside the Yahoo groups guidelines and be square with our own guidelines against unkindness as hooliganism to protect the very existence of our FFL group here. Or, without congruence of guideline we run the very real risk of running up against the Yahoo Groups guidelines themselves. Actually Turq's is a fair summary of a longer history. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364184 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364184 I feel Rick as owner here in conjunction with Yahoo Groups unkindness guidelines has good grounds to act swiftly and summarily on this. Rick would not even need to explain himself doing it. Most all understand that FFL was derailed and taken over by unkindness. Rick, get this over with and save the FFL group before Yahoo groups management closes it. The grounds are certainly clear for this, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: “They could take us all down in unkindness.” RW writes: It looks like the group needs a purging, again. Yes, In moderating the unkindness here on FFL, frankly I would urge Rick as the owner and supreme leader here to be much quicker to suspend the ad hominem as abuse and the unkindness it is when it occurs here. For instance, I should urge Rick as moral compass here to start with the instigators of the mean-girl-ing that has been going on here. It is unbearably unkind as it has gone on in form and could certainly terminate our whole group as it runs up against the Yahoo-groups guidelines. As its own form of hooliganism this is now the time to save FFL and put an end to the culture of the bad-girl-ing ad hominem that has charged in on FFL. Rick, as your friend and support in this I urge you to use a strong hand on those unkind trying to post on FFL. Be firm with this hooliganism on FFL, -Buck As a Group we must put an end to unkind postings and posters on FFL. Dear Fairfield Life and guest Yahoo-Groups Moderators; Yahoo! guideline says: “Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Rick, Keep a close watch out on the mean-girls club too. They could take us all down in unkindness. -Buck rick@... wrote: I don’t have time to keep a close watch out on anything on FFL, but if someone gets too outrageous and someone brings it to my attention, I usually say to wait and see if they simmer down, and if they don’t, I do something about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf OfBuck@... Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:55 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: A story of devotion Yes, to protect the very existence of our FFL community group we should close the membership at least of 'indifferent_netizen'/ or whoever that is here, before Yahoo catches up with us as a group for tolerating these kinds of unkind posts. There is a very real and present danger to the whole FFL group letting this writer and some of these other people write their hateful unkind abusive speech here. It is time. Already done. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Thanks Rick. You did the right thing to protect us all. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: “Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience. If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know.” Yes. This here is about the survival of our FFL list. Dear FFL, now more clearly than even before it is getting to be time to avert the
