Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer update
Sue, thank goodness he is with you now. Sounds like he might have a chance with a little help. Just keep loving him. Sharyl --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Tweezer update To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:16 AM Today I took Tweezer to the vet. I am so angry that a supposed rescue group could let him get into such bad shape. He only weights about 3 1/2 lbs. He has a horrible case of ear mites. He has an eye infection and an upper respiratory infection. The fact that he can't seem to put on weight may be caused by a genetic defect of the liver (liver shunts?). A blood panel was taken and his urine is being tested. The one good thing is that he does not seem to be a bit anemic. His appetite is also good. He ate most of a can of Wellness today. So - now we await the results of the tests. I will not hear back from the vet until Tuesday because they are going out of town. He is on Doxycycline for his eye infection and the respiratory infection. They also gave him a treatment of ear mite/flea medication that they put on the back of his neck. He is such a wonderful sweet kitty. He just loves to be loved. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New kitty has arrived. Worried.
I would feed him really good food. Like maybe even a/d, or at least a good brand of kitten food. I would also put him on l-lysine for the eyes. Has he seen the vet yet. I don't think it would hurt to start him on interferon either. I have a cat that is 10 years old and still looks like a kitten. Sometimes kittens that have been inbred, or were born to young mothers (ferals, etc) just don't grow that big. Good luck, tonya Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I picked up the new FeLV+ kitty today and I am very worried about him. He is supposed to be close to two years old but he is the size of a kitten no older then 6 months. I can feel his bones as if he has been on the street starving. His eyes are a little gunky and his nose seems to be running. He eats like he has been starving and he drank an amazing amount of water. He just seems sickly. I am keeping him separated from my other cats just in case, and he will go to my vet as soon as I can get him an appointment. The other animals at this rescue seem very healthy, but I can't imagine why he is the way he is. Does anyone have any ideas? Could this be just another thing that happens to positive kitties? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New kitty has arrived. Worried.
It never hurts to be overly cautious. But both my positives went through times that they were very symptomatic, and no one caught the felv from them. Of course all my other cats were vaccinated and adults. I would not mix a symptomatic cat with a kitten or unvaccinated cat. Good luck with your new little guy. tonya Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am responding only because this was just posted. Will let others respond to symptoms. I suspect the stress of the move could contribute now, too. Want to urge you, and I suspect you are already, to be very careful when going between him and your other cats as he is symptomatic. I would wash hands after handling your others and after handling him. He will be very susceptible, too, to anything they could be carrying. I would even wear certain clothes and socks when in his room with him and make sure no contact can occur under the door. As you already plan, I would get him to vet asap...tomorrow if possible. Is there an internal medicine specialist in your area? I assume you are giving him all the food he wants.. Bless you and bless his brave little self. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Frank Koren Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] New kitty has arrived. Worried. I picked up the new FeLV+ kitty today and I am very worried about him. He is supposed to be close to two years old but he is the size of a kitten no older then 6 months. I can feel his bones as if he has been on the street starving. His eyes are a little gunky and his nose seems to be running. He eats like he has been starving and he drank an amazing amount of water. He just seems sickly. I am keeping him separated from my other cats just in case, and he will go to my vet as soon as I can get him an appointment. The other animals at this rescue seem very healthy, but I can't imagine why he is the way he is. Does anyone have any ideas? Could this be just another thing that happens to positive kitties? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT- Friday Night Lights Kitty Rescue
Aren't they cute? I go over to their foster mom's house almost every day to take pics and you wouldn't believe how fast they are growing. They are walking and even trying to run but still a bit wobbly. Within 2 weeks they will have the playing thing figured out! On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are so beautiful! Great job with the TNR and rescue!! Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:56 AM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] OT- Friday Night Lights Kitty Rescue I was on the set of the Friday Night Lights TV show, where I sometimes works as an extra. I was hanging around waiting for the shooting to start when I noticed one of the principals, Taylor Kitschhttp://www.imdb.com/name/nm2018237/, petting a cat and feeding her ice cream off the catering truck. I asked him if he knew anything about the cat and he said, No, but she's friendly! I went and got the kitty some cat food, bowls, and water out of my truck. One of the other principals, Minka Kelly,http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1310368/seemed amazed that I had produced a 20 pound bag of cat food in the middle of the night. I explained to her that I did cat rescue and I always carried these items, and gave her my card in case they ran into any more kitties in need at any of the other shooting locations. We had to wait to come back and get the kitty until we had the property owner's permission. So Sunday night we went back and obtained permission. Seems the property owner also has an unaltered male cat on the property named Hot Sauce. We shared our dinner with Hot Sauce and found him to be a very lovable kitty. We got permission from the property owner to have him neutered and then return him. We also found that our new kitty (we named her Taylor) had 3 adorable little kittens. One brown tabby and white, one blue tabby, and one blue tabby and white. They are all safe and warm and fed at one of our great foster parents' homes now. I have taken lots of pics of the kittens now, some are posted at http://www.rescuties.net Taylor is combo neg. The kittens are too young to be tested. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT- Friday Night Lights Kitty Rescue
I hope not. There are some flakes and nuts here that keep trying to interfere with us adopting out cats. We also found a stray female Tuxedo, about a year old. The vet thinks she has had a litter (but not recently enough that we needed to look for kittens). We have been advertising her as found but I don't expect anyone to claim her. We call her Tofu:) On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelly, what a awesome story. Taylor and her babies are too cute for words. You shouldn't have any trouble finding good homes for the babies. Sharyl --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] OT- Friday Night Lights Kitty Rescue To: felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 1:55 AM I was on the set of the Friday Night Lights TV show, where I sometimes works as an extra. I was hanging around waiting for the shooting to start when I noticed one of the principals, Taylor Kitschhttp://www.imdb.com/name/nm2018237/, petting a cat and feeding her ice cream off the catering truck. I asked him if he knew anything about the cat and he said, No, but she's friendly! I went and got the kitty some cat food, bowls, and water out of my truck. One of the other principals, Minka Kelly,http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1310368/seemed amazed that I had produced a 20 pound bag of cat food in the middle of the night. I explained to her that I did cat rescue and I always carried these items, and gave her my card in case they ran into any more kitties in need at any of the other shooting locations. We had to wait to come back and get the kitty until we had the property owner's permission. So Sunday night we went back and obtained permission. Seems the property owner also has an unaltered male cat on the property named Hot Sauce. We shared our dinner with Hot Sauce and found him to be a very lovable kitty. We got permission from the property owner to have him neutered and then return him. We also found that our new kitty (we named her Taylor) had 3 adorable little kittens. One brown tabby and white, one blue tabby, and one blue tabby and white. They are all safe and warm and fed at one of our great foster parents' homes now. I have taken lots of pics of the kittens now, some are posted at http://www.rescuties.net Taylor is combo neg. The kittens are too young to be tested. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT- Friday Night Lights Kitty Rescue
Way to go, Kelley! t Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was on the set of the Friday Night Lights TV show, where I sometimes works as an extra. I was hanging around waiting for the shooting to start when I noticed one of the principals, Taylor Kitsch, petting a cat and feeding her ice cream off the catering truck. I asked him if he knew anything about the cat and he said, No, but she's friendly! I went and got the kitty some cat food, bowls, and water out of my truck. One of the other principals, Minka Kelly,seemed amazed that I had produced a 20 pound bag of cat food in the middle of the night. I explained to her that I did cat rescue and I always carried these items, and gave her my card in case they ran into any more kitties in need at any of the other shooting locations. We had to wait to come back and get the kitty until we had the property owner's permission. So Sunday night we went back and obtained permission. Seems the property owner also has an unaltered male cat on the property named Hot Sauce. We shared our dinner with Hot Sauce and found him to be a very lovable kitty. We got permission from the property owner to have him neutered and then return him. We also found that our new kitty (we named her Taylor) had 3 adorable little kittens. One brown tabby and white, one blue tabby, and one blue tabby and white. They are all safe and warm and fed at one of our great foster parents' homes now. I have taken lots of pics of the kittens now, some are posted at http://www.rescuties.net Taylor is combo neg. The kittens are too young to be tested. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT- Friday Night Lights Kitty Rescue
Thanks...it is so hard right now because I feel we should be helping with Hurricane Ike kitties..and we don't have a single foster spot open...so frustrating.. On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:31 AM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Way to go, Kelley! t Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was on the set of the Friday Night Lights TV show, where I sometimes works as an extra. I was hanging around waiting for the shooting to start when I noticed one of the principals, Taylor Kitsch, petting a cat and feeding her ice cream off the catering truck. I asked him if he knew anything about the cat and he said, No, but she's friendly! I went and got the kitty some cat food, bowls, and water out of my truck. One of the other principals, Minka Kelly,seemed amazed that I had produced a 20 pound bag of cat food in the middle of the night. I explained to her that I did cat rescue and I always carried these items, and gave her my card in case they ran into any more kitties in need at any of the other shooting locations. We had to wait to come back and get the kitty until we had the property owner's permission. So Sunday night we went back and obtained permission. Seems the property owner also has an unaltered male cat on the property named Hot Sauce. We shared our dinner with Hot Sauce and found him to be a very lovable kitty. We got permission from the property owner to have him neutered and then return him. We also found that our new kitty (we named her Taylor) had 3 adorable little kittens. One brown tabby and white, one blue tabby, and one blue tabby and white. They are all safe and warm and fed at one of our great foster parents' homes now. I have taken lots of pics of the kittens now, some are posted at http://www.rescuties.net Taylor is combo neg. The kittens are too young to be tested. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New kitty has arrived. Worried.
My vet says that a/d can make the diarrhea worse due to the high fat content. You might try some but go easy and see if it does make the diarrhea worse? We have two combo negative boys that are about the size of 6 month old kittens, and they were feral when we rescued them at 4 weeks. They are super super healthy, wonderful coats, not thin at all, just small. I think cats just come in different sizes. Our most recent rescue I thought to be about 6 months, but the vet says a year. Did he recently come from a shelter? Shelters are the worst for spreading URI (upper respiratory infection). We have also had it happen that a cat will develop uri from the stress of moving households. On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:47 AM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would feed him really good food. Like maybe even a/d, or at least a good brand of kitten food. I would also put him on l-lysine for the eyes. Has he seen the vet yet. I don't think it would hurt to start him on interferon either. I have a cat that is 10 years old and still looks like a kitten. Sometimes kittens that have been inbred, or were born to young mothers (ferals, etc) just don't grow that big. Good luck, tonya Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I picked up the new FeLV+ kitty today and I am very worried about him. He is supposed to be close to two years old but he is the size of a kitten no older then 6 months. I can feel his bones as if he has been on the street starving. His eyes are a little gunky and his nose seems to be running. He eats like he has been starving and he drank an amazing amount of water. He just seems sickly. I am keeping him separated from my other cats just in case, and he will go to my vet as soon as I can get him an appointment. The other animals at this rescue seem very healthy, but I can't imagine why he is the way he is. Does anyone have any ideas? Could this be just another thing that happens to positive kitties? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer update
Most of these things can be treated pretty easily. The ear mite/flea medication is probably Revolution - I believe Frontline has come out with a similar product called Frontline plus. I keep all my cats on Revolution monthly, mostly for heartworm prevention, there are other more effective flea preventatives. The eye infection and upper respiratory infection can be easily treated. Unfortunately I know little about liver shunts - we have not had to deal with any of those yet. On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:13 AM, Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sue, thank goodness he is with you now. Sounds like he might have a chance with a little help. Just keep loving him. Sharyl --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Tweezer update To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:16 AM Today I took Tweezer to the vet. I am so angry that a supposed rescue group could let him get into such bad shape. He only weights about 3 1/2 lbs. He has a horrible case of ear mites. He has an eye infection and an upper respiratory infection. The fact that he can't seem to put on weight may be caused by a genetic defect of the liver (liver shunts?). A blood panel was taken and his urine is being tested. The one good thing is that he does not seem to be a bit anemic. His appetite is also good. He ate most of a can of Wellness today. So - now we await the results of the tests. I will not hear back from the vet until Tuesday because they are going out of town. He is on Doxycycline for his eye infection and the respiratory infection. They also gave him a treatment of ear mite/flea medication that they put on the back of his neck. He is such a wonderful sweet kitty. He just loves to be loved. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer update
Sue, here is a good link to more info on liver shunts. http://www.petplace.com/cats/portosystemic-shunt-hepatic-shunt-in-cats/page1.aspx If that is the dx it could be caused by the FeLV. Looks like that could be why he is so small. It is treatable but a low protein diet seems to be important. Sharyl --- On Fri, 9/19/08, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 5:01 AM Most of these things can be treated pretty easily. The ear mite/flea medication is probably Revolution - I believe Frontline has come out with a similar product called Frontline plus. I keep all my cats on Revolution monthly, mostly for heartworm prevention, there are other more effective flea preventatives. The eye infection and upper respiratory infection can be easily treated. Unfortunately I know little about liver shunts - we have not had to deal with any of those yet. On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:13 AM, Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sue, thank goodness he is with you now. Sounds like he might have a chance with a little help. Just keep loving him. Sharyl --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Tweezer update To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:16 AM Today I took Tweezer to the vet. I am so angry that a supposed rescue group could let him get into such bad shape. He only weights about 3 1/2 lbs. He has a horrible case of ear mites. He has an eye infection and an upper respiratory infection. The fact that he can't seem to put on weight may be caused by a genetic defect of the liver (liver shunts?). A blood panel was taken and his urine is being tested. The one good thing is that he does not seem to be a bit anemic. His appetite is also good. He ate most of a can of Wellness today. So - now we await the results of the tests. I will not hear back from the vet until Tuesday because they are going out of town. He is on Doxycycline for his eye infection and the respiratory infection. They also gave him a treatment of ear mite/flea medication that they put on the back of his neck. He is such a wonderful sweet kitty. He just loves to be loved. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] New member
Hello Everyone, I'm a new member to the FelV group, but not new to cat rescue and TNR, which I've been doing for a long time. For years I didn't test for FelV, because back in the 1980's I tested all of my cats for it, and two were positive, so I put had them put down to protect my other cats. I've felt horribly guilty ever since, and because of this I quit testing. I started testing again about 4 years ago when I began taking care of a feral colony I discovered in our small town of Terra Alta, WV. There were always kittens I couldn't find homes for, and if I kept them, or kept any strays that were dumped at our house I felt I should have them tested.. None of them were ever positive. I guess I was just lucky, but now my luck has run out. Several kittens in a litter I rescued have tested positive for FelV. I intend to learn everything I can about FelV, and meanwhile I'll vaccinate my negative cats with the FelV vaccine. In the 80's it wasn't too effective, so I hope it's improved I'd appreciate input on the efficacy of the vaccine. I understand FelV is contagious, but not highly contagious. From what I've read it is apparently spread through blood (bites) food dishes, water bowls and mutual grooming. The virus apparently doesn't live long outside the cat's body, but in even a few hours other cats could be infected. The vet didn't tell me to euthanize the positive kittens, but she did give me a grim outlook :-( I'd appreciate hearing from any of you in regard to this. Lorrie in Terra Alta, WV ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New member
Hi, Lorrie -- Glad you found this group. You'll get lots of great advice here. Firstly, don't beat yourself up too much -- it's too bad about the kitties you put to sleep, but nobody knew much about FeLV back then, it would have been universally considered to be a death sentence anyway. Now, there is so much hope for your positive kittens! Admittedly, your vet was probably trying to let you know the worst of what you're facing, but if all she can offer is grimness, you might want to consider finding another vet, at least for these babies. The fact that she didn't suggest euthanasia is a point in her favor, but the kittens would be better served by someone on the cutting edge of FeLV. Or, if she's willing to work with you, you can print off stuff from the files on the felineleukemia.org website and help her expand her knowledge base. ;-) I assume the kittens are not showing signs of disease. If they aren't, depending on their age, they may yet shake off the virus. But if they don't, there are still ways to keep them asymptomatic. FeLV *isn't* an automatic death sentence these days. You'll get lots of advice here on diet and supplements, and (along with some heartache) some nice success stories. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:34 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] New member Hello Everyone, I'm a new member to the FelV group, but not new to cat rescue and TNR, which I've been doing for a long time. For years I didn't test for FelV, because back in the 1980's I tested all of my cats for it, and two were positive, so I put had them put down to protect my other cats. I've felt horribly guilty ever since, and because of this I quit testing. I started testing again about 4 years ago when I began taking care of a feral colony I discovered in our small town of Terra Alta, WV. There were always kittens I couldn't find homes for, and if I kept them, or kept any strays that were dumped at our house I felt I should have them tested.. None of them were ever positive. I guess I was just lucky, but now my luck has run out. Several kittens in a litter I rescued have tested positive for FelV. I intend to learn everything I can about FelV, and meanwhile I'll vaccinate my negative cats with the FelV vaccine. In the 80's it wasn't too effective, so I hope it's improved I'd appreciate input on the efficacy of the vaccine. I understand FelV is contagious, but not highly contagious. From what I've read it is apparently spread through blood (bites) food dishes, water bowls and mutual grooming. The virus apparently doesn't live long outside the cat's body, but in even a few hours other cats could be infected. The vet didn't tell me to euthanize the positive kittens, but she did give me a grim outlook :-( I'd appreciate hearing from any of you in regard to this. Lorrie in Terra Alta, WV ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New member
Hi Lorrie, Don't give up hope! I just posted a couple of days ago about the two kitties I rescued who were positive just were retested and are now negative!! Of course I don't know if what I did had anything to do with changing their status, but if you are interested in the diet I fed them and the supplements I gave them, contact me offlist. Furthermore, the FeLV vaccine doesn't have a terribly high efficacy even now. Someone on one of these lists said she worked in a cat clinic for a number of years and out of the 2000 or so cases of leukemia she saw, most of the ones who died had been vaccinated for the disease. Sabrina www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com www.LovingGraceRescue.org Orange County, CA ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Letter from new member
Hi, Diane, Thanks for replying to my first post on this group. The kittens are 5 1/2 months old now. I've been trying to find homes for them since they were 8 weeks old, but no luck :-( I had no clue that some of them had FelV until a friend adopted one, and it became extremely sick. It was tested for FelV and soon died. The others are still fine, they had their shots and other than feeling bad for 24 hours, which most kittens do, they recovered and are running all over. My vet is good. She has always answered all my questions, given me plenty of time, and she is also understanding about my ordering vet meds online to save money. In fact she will tell me what to use and what dosages to give. The vet I used before got p.o'ed big time about this! There are only 2 vet clinics in our very small town, and I really like the one I use now. I assume she had to cover her butt by giving me a worst case scenario on FelV. One of the things she told me, that didn't seem right, was that felV could be transmitted in ways other than by sharing food water bowls, grooming or biting My cats often escape their quarters, and my vet indicated that a negative cat might walk where a positive cat had been and pick up the virus. This sounded a bit far fetched to me. What do you think? Is she just covering all bases? I am now giving the kittens L Lysine, which I understand will help boost their immune systems, however they are all still together. I have no place to separate them. I have 15 cats at home (they are rescued inside/outside cats) and I bought a building in town which I use as a shelter. There are 33 cats there, so we're full up! These cats are not in cages, they all have individual rooms, but the rooms are full, without being over crowded. I'm working on finding more space where all FelV cats can be separated. Thanks for writing. Lorrie in WV On 09-19, Rosenfeldt, Diane wrote: Hi, Lorrie -- Glad you found this group. You'll get lots of great advice here. Firstly, don't beat yourself up too much -- it's too bad about the kitties you put to sleep, but nobody knew much about FeLV back then, it would have been universally considered to be a death sentence anyway. Now, there is so much hope for your positive kittens! Admittedly, your vet was probably trying to let you know the worst of what you're facing, but if all she can offer is grimness, you might want to consider finding another vet, at least for these babies. The fact that she didn't suggest euthanasia is a point in her favor, but the kittens would be better served by someone on the cutting edge of FeLV. Or, if she's willing to work with you, you can print off stuff from the files on the felineleukemia.org website and help her expand her knowledge base. ;-) I assume the kittens are not showing signs of disease. If they aren't, depending on their age, they may yet shake off the virus. But if they don't, there are still ways to keep them asymptomatic. FeLV *isn't* an automatic death sentence these days. You'll get lots of advice here on diet and supplements, and (along with some heartache) some nice success stories. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:34 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] New member Hello Everyone, I'm a new member to the FelV group, but not new to cat rescue and TNR, which I've been doing for a long time. For years I didn't test for FelV, because back in the 1980's I tested all of my cats for it, and two were positive, so I put had them put down to protect my other cats. I've felt horribly guilty ever since, and because of this I quit testing. I started testing again about 4 years ago when I began taking care of a feral colony I discovered in our small town of Terra Alta, WV. There were always kittens I couldn't find homes for, and if I kept them, or kept any strays that were dumped at our house I felt I should have them tested.. None of them were ever positive. I guess I was just lucky, but now my luck has run out. Several kittens in a litter I rescued have tested positive for FelV. I intend to learn everything I can about FelV, and meanwhile I'll vaccinate my negative cats with the FelV vaccine. In the 80's it wasn't too effective, so I hope it's improved I'd appreciate input on the efficacy of the vaccine. I understand FelV is contagious, but not highly contagious. From what I've read it is apparently spread through blood (bites) food dishes, water bowls and mutual grooming. The virus apparently doesn't live long outside the cat's body, but in even a few hours other cats could be infected. The vet didn't tell me to euthanize the positive kittens, but she did give me a grim outlook :-( I'd appreciate hearing from any of you in regard to this. Lorrie in Terra Alta, WV
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccine
Sabrina, Thanks for your feedback on the FelV vaccine. Years ago when the vaccine first came out I heard it was not too effective, but I hoped it had improved. Has anyone else had experience with the vaccine to share with me? Lorrie On 09-19, Sabrina wrote: Hi Lorrie, Don't give up hope! I just posted a couple of days ago about the two kitties I rescued who were positive just were retested and are now negative!! Of course I don't know if what I did had anything to do with changing their status, but if you are interested in the diet I fed them and the supplements I gave them, contact me offlist. Furthermore, the FeLV vaccine doesn't have a terribly high efficacy even now. Someone on one of these lists said she worked in a cat clinic for a number of years and out of the 2000 or so cases of leukemia she saw, most of the ones who died had been vaccinated for the disease. Sabrina www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com www.LovingGraceRescue.org Orange County, CA ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Letter from new member
The thing about the cat walking in the same space is very farfetched. FeLV is more easily transmitted than FIV, but this kind of casual contact won't do it. Many people here will tell you how their FeLV positive and negative cats have hung out together for years with zero transmission. If your vet is willing to do the homework, bring her stuff from this website about transmission and treatment options. The L-lysine is a great start. Feed them food that's as good as you can afford -- high protein, low grain, etc. Wellness isn't the absolute best, but it's not bad and not hideously expensive. Some people here swear by holistic medicine and raw feeding for their cats, and will certainly chime in with more info. Stress them as little as possible. Watch for stuff like anemia, which often turns up in FeLV kitties, and be vigilant about stuff you'd let run its course in other cats, like respiratory things. These cats can live relatively long lives with good care and luck and lots of love. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 2:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Letter from new member Hi, Diane, Thanks for replying to my first post on this group. The kittens are 5 1/2 months old now. I've been trying to find homes for them since they were 8 weeks old, but no luck :-( I had no clue that some of them had FelV until a friend adopted one, and it became extremely sick. It was tested for FelV and soon died. The others are still fine, they had their shots and other than feeling bad for 24 hours, which most kittens do, they recovered and are running all over. My vet is good. She has always answered all my questions, given me plenty of time, and she is also understanding about my ordering vet meds online to save money. In fact she will tell me what to use and what dosages to give. The vet I used before got p.o'ed big time about this! There are only 2 vet clinics in our very small town, and I really like the one I use now. I assume she had to cover her butt by giving me a worst case scenario on FelV. One of the things she told me, that didn't seem right, was that felV could be transmitted in ways other than by sharing food water bowls, grooming or biting My cats often escape their quarters, and my vet indicated that a negative cat might walk where a positive cat had been and pick up the virus. This sounded a bit far fetched to me. What do you think? Is she just covering all bases? I am now giving the kittens L Lysine, which I understand will help boost their immune systems, however they are all still together. I have no place to separate them. I have 15 cats at home (they are rescued inside/outside cats) and I bought a building in town which I use as a shelter. There are 33 cats there, so we're full up! These cats are not in cages, they all have individual rooms, but the rooms are full, without being over crowded. I'm working on finding more space where all FelV cats can be separated. Thanks for writing. Lorrie in WV On 09-19, Rosenfeldt, Diane wrote: Hi, Lorrie -- Glad you found this group. You'll get lots of great advice here. Firstly, don't beat yourself up too much -- it's too bad about the kitties you put to sleep, but nobody knew much about FeLV back then, it would have been universally considered to be a death sentence anyway. Now, there is so much hope for your positive kittens! Admittedly, your vet was probably trying to let you know the worst of what you're facing, but if all she can offer is grimness, you might want to consider finding another vet, at least for these babies. The fact that she didn't suggest euthanasia is a point in her favor, but the kittens would be better served by someone on the cutting edge of FeLV. Or, if she's willing to work with you, you can print off stuff from the files on the felineleukemia.org website and help her expand her knowledge base. ;-) I assume the kittens are not showing signs of disease. If they aren't, depending on their age, they may yet shake off the virus. But if they don't, there are still ways to keep them asymptomatic. FeLV *isn't* an automatic death sentence these days. You'll get lots of advice here on diet and supplements, and (along with some heartache) some nice success stories. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:34 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] New member Hello Everyone, I'm a new member to the FelV group, but not new to cat rescue and TNR, which I've been doing for a long time. For years I didn't test for FelV, because back in the 1980's I tested all of my cats for it, and two were positive, so I put had them put down to protect my other cats. I've felt horribly guilty ever since, and because of this I quit testing. I
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccine
My understanding is that the vaccine is 85-90% effective. We vaccinate all our rescue cats, and I vaccinate all my personal cats. You will find others on this list who do not vaccinate at all. It is a very personal decision. On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Lorrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sabrina, Thanks for your feedback on the FelV vaccine. Years ago when the vaccine first came out I heard it was not too effective, but I hoped it had improved. Has anyone else had experience with the vaccine to share with me? Lorrie On 09-19, Sabrina wrote: Hi Lorrie, Don't give up hope! I just posted a couple of days ago about the two kitties I rescued who were positive just were retested and are now negative!! Of course I don't know if what I did had anything to do with changing their status, but if you are interested in the diet I fed them and the supplements I gave them, contact me offlist. Furthermore, the FeLV vaccine doesn't have a terribly high efficacy even now. Someone on one of these lists said she worked in a cat clinic for a number of years and out of the 2000 or so cases of leukemia she saw, most of the ones who died had been vaccinated for the disease. Sabrina www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com www.LovingGraceRescue.org Orange County, CA ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccine
I adopted Mandy in July 2007 and found out the next day that she was leukemia-positive. My vet said that the vaccine is 90+% effective and that the likelihood of my other six adult, healthy cats getting leukemia was extremely small. At this time, Mandy is very healthy (just at vet today) and the other six are fine. They have mixed without restriction all of this time. Pat - Original Message - From: Lorrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccine Sabrina, Thanks for your feedback on the FelV vaccine. Years ago when the vaccine first came out I heard it was not too effective, but I hoped it had improved. Has anyone else had experience with the vaccine to share with me? Lorrie On 09-19, Sabrina wrote: Hi Lorrie, Don't give up hope! I just posted a couple of days ago about the two kitties I rescued who were positive just were retested and are now negative!! Of course I don't know if what I did had anything to do with changing their status, but if you are interested in the diet I fed them and the supplements I gave them, contact me offlist. Furthermore, the FeLV vaccine doesn't have a terribly high efficacy even now. Someone on one of these lists said she worked in a cat clinic for a number of years and out of the 2000 or so cases of leukemia she saw, most of the ones who died had been vaccinated for the disease. Sabrina www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com www.LovingGraceRescue.org Orange County, CA ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Letter from new member
I gave Dixie (FeLV+) colostrum in addition to a lot of other supplements, Primal Raw + organic veggies etc (I know there is a theory going around that they should not eat raw if they test positive--Dixie thrived on it and grain free foods). Her first trip, after testing +, was to a holistic vet. If you don't have one close, there are several, including the ones I worked with, who will do phone consultations. Dixie saw Dr. Boswell every time we went to Louisville and I attribute her quality of life to the coordination between Dr. Boswell and my regular vets at Middletown Animal Clinic. Dixie came into my life as a 2-3 year old cat (estimate) and stayed with me just over 3 years. She was on her own for a long time and I am sure this worsened the situation and shortened her life. Until the last few days she appeared to be in perfect health and was very happy. She had everything a cat could want and more. A month after she left this world she sent me Copper and two weeks later she sent me Thomas. They are both negative. Their first visit, after testing negative, was to Dr. Boswell who started them on some supplements (again, because they were on their own and we are now raising healthy kittens who need to make up for a few weeks of hard times). All of this is to encourage you to check in with a holistic vet. Blessings to you for caring for the little ones. On Sep 19, 2008, at 2:56 PM, Lorrie wrote: Hi, Diane, Thanks for replying to my first post on this group. The kittens are 5 1/2 months old now. I've been trying to find homes for them since they were 8 weeks old, but no luck :-( I had no clue that some of them had FelV until a friend adopted one, and it became extremely sick. It was tested for FelV and soon died. The others are still fine, they had their shots and other than feeling bad for 24 hours, which most kittens do, they recovered and are running all over. My vet is good. She has always answered all my questions, given me plenty of time, and she is also understanding about my ordering vet meds online to save money. In fact she will tell me what to use and what dosages to give. The vet I used before got p.o'ed big time about this! There are only 2 vet clinics in our very small town, and I really like the one I use now. I assume she had to cover her butt by giving me a worst case scenario on FelV. One of the things she told me, that didn't seem right, was that felV could be transmitted in ways other than by sharing food water bowls, grooming or biting My cats often escape their quarters, and my vet indicated that a negative cat might walk where a positive cat had been and pick up the virus. This sounded a bit far fetched to me. What do you think? Is she just covering all bases? I am now giving the kittens L Lysine, which I understand will help boost their immune systems, however they are all still together. I have no place to separate them. I have 15 cats at home (they are rescued inside/outside cats) and I bought a building in town which I use as a shelter. There are 33 cats there, so we're full up! These cats are not in cages, they all have individual rooms, but the rooms are full, without being over crowded. I'm working on finding more space where all FelV cats can be separated. Thanks for writing. Lorrie in WV On 09-19, Rosenfeldt, Diane wrote: Hi, Lorrie -- Glad you found this group. You'll get lots of great advice here. Firstly, don't beat yourself up too much -- it's too bad about the kitties you put to sleep, but nobody knew much about FeLV back then, it would have been universally considered to be a death sentence anyway. Now, there is so much hope for your positive kittens! Admittedly, your vet was probably trying to let you know the worst of what you're facing, but if all she can offer is grimness, you might want to consider finding another vet, at least for these babies. The fact that she didn't suggest euthanasia is a point in her favor, but the kittens would be better served by someone on the cutting edge of FeLV. Or, if she's willing to work with you, you can print off stuff from the files on the felineleukemia.org website and help her expand her knowledge base. ;-) I assume the kittens are not showing signs of disease. If they aren't, depending on their age, they may yet shake off the virus. But if they don't, there are still ways to keep them asymptomatic. FeLV *isn't* an automatic death sentence these days. You'll get lots of advice here on diet and supplements, and (along with some heartache) some nice success stories. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:34 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] New member Hello Everyone, I'm a new member to the FelV group, but not new to cat rescue and TNR, which I've been doing
Re: [Felvtalk] New member
Interesting, everything I read says the efficacy of at least 3 of the current vaccines is 85-90%, plus most adult cats are pretty immune naturally. If the majority of the cases that died had been vaccinated I would have to wonder if one of several possibilities might be true; they were already positive when vaccinated; the vaccine protocol wasn't properly followed; or their tests weren't properly done. I would also think that a vet clinic that saw 2000 cases over even a 10 year period was one very busy clinic, it has only been a very recent part of normal testing and still is not for many clinics. I have three positive cats that are kept in their own area but I still vaccinate all of my negatives even though I think the chance of infection from my positives is pretty low. Gary - Original Message - From: Sabrina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New member Furthermore, the FeLV vaccine doesn't have a terribly high efficacy even now. Someone on one of these lists said she worked in a cat clinic for a number of years and out of the 2000 or so cases of leukemia she saw, most of the ones who died had been vaccinated for the disease. Sabrina ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccine
My vet said that the vaccine is 90+% effective and that the likelihood of my other six adult, healthy cats getting leukemia was extremely small. In my opinion, one needs to look at all of the factors before deciding whether or not to vaccinate. 1) Vaccine efficacy. I have heard anywhere from 30% to 70% efficacy, but I can't find anything online that says anything concrete. 2) Animal's risk of exposure. Adult cats are less susceptible to contracting FeLV than kittens. the degree of virus exposure sufficient to infect 100% of young kittens will infect only 30% or fewer adults. Source: http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/brochures/felv.html 3) Vaccine side effects, short-term and long-term. There are some potentially serious side effects from the leukemia vaccine that need to be taken into consideration when deciding to vaccinate a cat. Adverse effects from vaccination can include local swelling or pain, transient lethargy or fever, post-vaccination granuloma formation (a gathering of inflammatory cells that cause a benign lump), and most seriously, *vaccine associated sarcomas.*http://www.catvaccines.com/sarcomas.htmA sarcoma is a type of a mass that is comprised of cancerous cells. Sarcomas can spread from the site of the injection down into surrounding connective tissue, muscle, and bone. Even with chemotherapy, radiation, and surgical removal some cats have died from vaccine-associated sarcomas. Although sarcomas have been reported from vaccines other than the feline leukemia virus (rabies is thought to be associated with possible sarcoma formation), current scientific research links sarcoma formation most often with feline leukemia vaccination. Source: http://www.catvaccines.com/feline_vaccination_guidelines.htm I no longer vaccinate my personal cats at ALL, and vaccinate my rescues minimally or not at all. In the case with my FeLV+ kitties, I did not vaccinate for anything at all. It IS a very personal choice, and one that should not be taken lightly. Sabrina www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com www.LovingGraceRescue.org Orange County, CA ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
