[Felvtalk] OT: 2 cats that desperately need a home
This is off topic, not FELV. We recently got this from a lady in New Jersey, near Manhattan. Our rescue is in Little Rock Arkansas. Any of you folks in the north east know of a way to help? Thanks very much, Gloria Begin forwarded message: From: Lindsay Mariconda lindsaymarico...@yahoo.com Date: December 7, 2010 11:48:56 AM CST To: savea...@teamfurr.org savea...@teamfurr.org Subject: 2 cats that desperately need a home Hi, my name is Lindsay Mariconda and I am in an extremely difficult situation right now concerning my 2 cats. I was referred to your organization by a friend who thought it would be helpful. I recently had to move on very short notice to an apartment that will not allow cats. I have a 10 year old named Porkchop and a 3 year old named Cookie that need a home asap. I live in Belleville, NJ and all of the no-kill shelters in and around this area are already overflowing with cats. And I don't want to place them in a non-no kill shelter. I am running out of options and time for my little ones. Any assistance or advice would be greatly appreciated in this matter. Thank You, Lindsay Mariconda P.S. I have pictures of them both I can send if needed. Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion
I'd also like to put in a plug for Zithromax and Convenia. Zithromax - I buy it dry, divide it into 3rds, and mix a 3rd at a time. Sometimes 1 day 1 dose will do the trick, especially for kittens. We've also had miraculous results with Convenia too, but you get the vet to give an injection of that. Some vets aren't into these antibiotics - they just use the same old stuff - Amoxi, Clavamox, Clindamycin, which are good - but the newer ones can be extremely helpful. You can also use Little Noses 4 hour drops (the nose drops, not the saline) - I'm trying to remember the name of the other drops I've used, can't recall it. But only the 4 hour ones. I've put on a q-tip and squished against the nose, and can be helpful. Anybody else know about nose drops? Maybe some of the messages I haven't read yet. If the cause of the congestion is related to Herpes, of course, you'd want to use Lysine orally, which is otc. Not sure what the homeopathic remedy would be...hmmm. I've been using a humidifier in my house on cold nights, because of the dryness to noses. Best of luck, Gloria On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Susan Hoffman wrote: Little Noses brand salineBut it sounds like you may need a heavier duty antibiotic. What antibiotic was already given? I swear by zithromax but have also seen good results from the Convenia antibiotic injection. --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com wrote: From: Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:37 PM As I wrote in my previous post on mixing, my little kitty is extremely congested. The vet has given him antibiotics and anti-inflammatory medicine, but since he isn't too interested in eating, I am having trouble getting them into him. I have very limited access to medications or natural remedies unless they are homemade using easily accessible ingredients. I read something about saline drops or using children's Afrin. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you, Melinda and VooDoo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion
just wanted to say also, maybe you could call the front desk at your vet, and find out EXACTLY what meds were giving to your kitty... it's good to know that. Gloria On Dec 8, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Gloria B. Lane wrote: I'd also like to put in a plug for Zithromax and Convenia. Zithromax - I buy it dry, divide it into 3rds, and mix a 3rd at a time. Sometimes 1 day 1 dose will do the trick, especially for kittens. We've also had miraculous results with Convenia too, but you get the vet to give an injection of that. Some vets aren't into these antibiotics - they just use the same old stuff - Amoxi, Clavamox, Clindamycin, which are good - but the newer ones can be extremely helpful. You can also use Little Noses 4 hour drops (the nose drops, not the saline) - I'm trying to remember the name of the other drops I've used, can't recall it. But only the 4 hour ones. I've put on a q- tip and squished against the nose, and can be helpful. Anybody else know about nose drops? Maybe some of the messages I haven't read yet. If the cause of the congestion is related to Herpes, of course, you'd want to use Lysine orally, which is otc. Not sure what the homeopathic remedy would be...hmmm. I've been using a humidifier in my house on cold nights, because of the dryness to noses. Best of luck, Gloria On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Susan Hoffman wrote: Little Noses brand salineBut it sounds like you may need a heavier duty antibiotic. What antibiotic was already given? I swear by zithromax but have also seen good results from the Convenia antibiotic injection. --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com wrote: From: Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:37 PM As I wrote in my previous post on mixing, my little kitty is extremely congested. The vet has given him antibiotics and anti-inflammatory medicine, but since he isn't too interested in eating, I am having trouble getting them into him. I have very limited access to medications or natural remedies unless they are homemade using easily accessible ingredients. I read something about saline drops or using children's Afrin. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you, Melinda and VooDoo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
The other thing is that among adult cats with healthy immune systems, it may not matter whether they're vaccinated or not. I'm of the camp that thinks it doesn't matter. I've seen articles about this but sorry don't have a reference right now - that healthy adult cats are going to throw the virus off whether they're vaccinated or not. Gloria On Dec 7, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote: Thank you everyone for all your comments and feedback. It is definitely helpful and encouraging. For those that have asked, the FELV+ kitten is Magic and she is about 5 months old and healthy other than her diagnosis. I have three other cats. Leroy and Zoe are 2 1/2 and had their FELV boosters when they were kittens, but have not had them since - just rabies and distempter. My biggest concern is my oldest cat, Ally, who is 13 1/2. She has only received her rabies shots since she was a kitten as she had a nearly fatal reaction to her vaccines when she was a kitten. Since she is an indoor cat, the vet recommended against further vaccines many years ago. The vet at my practice who suggested potentially integrating after vaccinating also seemed to be in the camp that this disease is not passed as easily from cat to cat as we might be led to believe. She told me that it generally takes prolonged consistent contact to be passed. My FELV+ kitten is currently separated from my other three negative cats and I had been concerned about accidental exposure to my negative cats. She also emphasized that it does not survive long in normal household conditions. I won't be able to talk to my regular vet until late Thursday or Friday. My husband is leaning towards wanting to vaccinate and mix if possible. I'm still on the fence. Again, I'm very appreciate of everyone's insight and perspective. It definitely helps. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
The other thing is that among adult cats with healthy immune systems, it may not matter whether they're vaccinated or not. I'm of the camp that thinks it doesn't matter. I've seen articles about this but sorry don't have a reference right now - that healthy adult cats are going to throw the virus off whether they're vaccinated or not. Gloria On Dec 7, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote: Thank you everyone for all your comments and feedback. It is definitely helpful and encouraging. For those that have asked, the FELV+ kitten is Magic and she is about 5 months old and healthy other than her diagnosis. I have three other cats. Leroy and Zoe are 2 1/2 and had their FELV boosters when they were kittens, but have not had them since - just rabies and distempter. My biggest concern is my oldest cat, Ally, who is 13 1/2. She has only received her rabies shots since she was a kitten as she had a nearly fatal reaction to her vaccines when she was a kitten. Since she is an indoor cat, the vet recommended against further vaccines many years ago. The vet at my practice who suggested potentially integrating after vaccinating also seemed to be in the camp that this disease is not passed as easily from cat to cat as we might be led to believe. She told me that it generally takes prolonged consistent contact to be passed. My FELV+ kitten is currently separated from my other three negative cats and I had been concerned about accidental exposure to my negative cats. She also emphasized that it does not survive long in normal household conditions. I won't be able to talk to my regular vet until late Thursday or Friday. My husband is leaning towards wanting to vaccinate and mix if possible. I'm still on the fence. Again, I'm very appreciate of everyone's insight and perspective. It definitely helps. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
Since all your other cats are negative, I would not hesitate to start a process of integrating into the household. I assume you're asking since you once had an FELV positive at one time, but as I understand that virus is very fragile and doesn't survive long outside the body. Gloria On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Peggy Verdonck wrote: About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. She went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week later. She was suffering! We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the same day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with Oreo for almost a year! To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. Found him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into the group in about 2 weeks. Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance that there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears to be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. Thanks for your thoughts! Peggy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Integrating Positive and Negative Cats
Rabies may be not be required by law for indoor cats, depending on your local. Even so, they're not going to come in your house to check on your house cats. For FELV, I've read quite a bit that healthy adult cats have a good immunity to it whether they're vaccinated or not. Gloria On Dec 8, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote: Thanks Everyone. I am lucky in that my vets have never recommended over vaccinating. Other than rabies, which is required yearly by law in our state, we have never done additional vaccinating on my cats (current and prior) as they are indoor cats only. It's part of the struggle with figuring out what to do. Separately, Magic had a watery eye this morning that she wasn't opening as much as the other one. So we need to keep a watch on that for her as I've also heard treating her symptoms early is key to her quality of life. Thanks again. Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon
A friend of mine has an FELV cat (along with another non FELV cat; they're buddies). She's had the FELV kitty on interferon alpha for several years - kitty has done extremely well. Gloria On Dec 10, 2010, at 1:05 PM, Andy Domek wrote: Aggie has had interferon every day of her life since I've had her (for 6 and a half years) and has had no noticeable side effects. But--she is still alive and happy, so I suppose you could consider that a side-effect. Might also be chalked up to good luck, but I'm sure the Interferon hasn't hurt her. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Good news
Hi Kerry, I remember you from way back. So glad to see you out there and hear your story. I think I took in my first FELV cats in 2001 - Mr. Black Kitty and Calawalla Banana Booboo. Mr. Black Kitty was a double positive, and lived about a year. He was SOO skinny, but an energetic, sweet kitty. Calawalla was a calico kitten, maybe 6 mo old or so. I kept them in my living room, and one of the first things I did was put tape on the bottom of the door so that they couldn't sniff noses with my other cats. My vet told me that wasn't necessary - the virus only lived a few seconds when it hit the air, and was very fragile. I fortunately found this group, and read up on FELV and learned more. So within a couple of years, I decided that for me, it was time to mix the FELVs with the other cats, and have been doing that ever since. Calawalla died when she was about 2 yrs old. I had acquired another FELV for her - MIttens - who died died a little later. I sometimes wonder what subgroup/strain they were, and what my present FELV's are. I've got a great picture of them on a bed with my non-FELV, Shakespeare, just chillin and looking great. Anyhow, great to hear from you - Happy Holidays to you, Kerry, sending love and hugs back at ya - Gloria On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Kerry MacKenzie wrote: Dear all It's been a few years since I last posted. Background: I found this amazing, wonderful, kind, supportive, and knowledgeable group--it remains my best Internet experience--after discovering that 5 members of a feral colony of 4 kittens and 2 adults that I took in in 2003 had tested positive for a disease called feline leukemia. (1 of the adults, Momcat, was negative. I should say, we didn't know if she was really the mother--I just gave her the name as she was the only adult female in the group. I saw no reason to separate her as she'd already been exposed, plus she was the most stressed/timid of all of them.) Re-testing a few months later showed no change--5 pos, 1 neg. Within 2 years, 3 of the kittens and the positive adult succumbed to the disease, 2 on the same day. A few months later I re-tested again. This time, both remaining cats, Momcat and Mickey, tested negative. Hi-fiving all round! They're now 8 and 7, respectively. Still resolutely feral, but healthy! Fast forward to September this year when I began fostering Sally, a 5-week calico that had tested positive on both ELISA and IFA. The rescue group said they would re-test in 3 months. The lab people said: Why bother? Nothing you do is going to change the result. One of the vets at the clinic said the same thing: re-testing is pointless. The rescue group disregarded the advice and earlier this month I took her for a 2nd round of ELISA and IFA. Result: both negative! Just wanted to share--I figure we can always use good news. I will also say--and it's very much my decision, based on my personal experience with healthy adult Momcat (above), who lived alongside 5 positives but remained neg--this is the 2nd time I've fostered a pos kitten--Daisy remained positive and found a great forever home where she has a pos boyfriend too-- and both times I've mixed them freely with my healthy, adult cats. As I say, my personal decision. I would not say anyone else should do the same thing. Sending good wishes to all of you who do so much and for all the kitties in your care. love and hugs and happy holidays. Kerry M., mom to Flavia, Caramel, Levi, Snoball--all of whom gave me so much in their all-too-short lives, and are now immortalized thanks to Belinda and the Candlelight Service--Mickey, Momcat, Katyis, Trixie and Tiger, and foster mom to Sally. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
I have to say, while our monthly clinic vet does pediatric spay/ neuter, I wouldn't trust every one to do it, and I understand the term chop shops. Compared with other local clinics, I think we do batter aftercare for cats in recovery than any of the others and that's so important. Can't just put them in a cage or carrier after surgery, and leave them. Fortunately we have a good system, and we all trust our vet, who is good with pediatric s/n, and he's also fast - amazing to watch him versus some of the other vets. Knowing the vet and trusting are so important. Otherwise I'd wait a while too. Gloria On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:58 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: I figure that amazingly enough he's been to vet school and I haven't. The local low cost spay and neuter places (I call them chop n shops) will do them at 3 months, but their primary concern is that all animals be spayed and neutered no matter what, and they killed one of our kittens with a botched spay - never again. Our current vet does them at 6 months because his concern is the health of each individual animal - and I like that. We have never had anyone get pregnant. If they are not altered we adopt out on foster to adopt, which means we still own the animal and they are fostering. It works if you can keep up with it. We never transfer ownership on an unaltered animal. On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: Kelley, Our vet says exactly the same thing, so we s/n at 6 months. On 12-27, Kelley Saveika wrote: We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and from what I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n in dogs I can't blame him. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FELV cat in Takoma Park, MD, suburbs of Washington, DC
I saw this on Facebook, and am so impressed that the Takoma Park Clinic (outside of Washington, DC, in Maryland) is helping an FELV cat. The Takoma Park Clinic is at 7330 Carroll Ave, in Takoma Park, phone 301-270-4700. Meet Bandit! He is hoping that we can help him to find his forever home!! Bandit was left at the clinic two weeks ago. We have since neutered and vaccinated him. His is FELV Pos and has lost one of his eyes. However, I don't think that there is a happier, more loving cat out there! He will need to be eithr in a home as the only cat or in a home with another FELV Pos cat. Please help find bandit the home that he deserves!! Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV + kitten needs help
Maybe I missed it - what is the location? On Feb 14, 2011, at 8:19 AM, TANYA NOE wrote: Hello everyone, A girl I know rescued an approximately 18-22 week old kitten from a high kill shelters euthanasia list recently. The kitten has some corneal scarring but appears to still be able to see it also is FeLV +. It is a black and white female. She is very friendly, loves to cuddle and uses her litter box well. The girls family won't let her keep it because of the FeLV. We have had many talks about it but the family is still too concerned that their 3 year old cat will get sick. She can no longer keep this sweet girl and is scared to death at the idea of having to take it back to the shelter. We all know how many people in this world perceive out little FeLV babies. I posted a message last week with a picture but it was too large and I was told a moderator would look at it and either let it go through or message me why it had not. I never heard back on it so I am sending out this plea... Is there anyone out there who would be willing to take this sweet little girl and give her a home? She has been to the vet and appears to be otherwise healthy other than the FeLV and corneal scarring. If anyone is interested, please send me an email at sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com and I will send you pictures of her, she is super cute. Please, there has got to be someone out there who has the space and love for this little honey who has been given this 2nd chance. Thanks everyone, I pray for good news from someone who will get the opportunity to spend many happy years with this little angel! Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Peroxide therapy
Another possibility - a stroke. Good luck to him and you! Gloria On Feb 16, 2011, at 7:29 AM, Natalie wrote: That's why our shelter is at our house; they are home with us...we get covered with cats taking turns on our laps, sometimes there are three or four. I found out yesterday that one of our healthy cats was acting strangely and was taken to the vet. He's a very tame and sweet cat, but when he gets to the vet, he's the incredible hulk! Last time, I couldn't hold him down with my whole body weight for the vet just to look into his mouth. He was blind yesterday morning, stumbled aroundby evening, at the hospital, he could see again...blood work will be back today and he may have a brain inflammation (original diagnosis). If I won the sweepstakes, I'd get a huge farm, with houses and sections for different animals on it - all saved from deathrow.. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Peroxide therapy I don't know how you handle working in a shelter. It is so hard when one of my babies dies, but fortunately that is not too often. I would also want to take them all home with me. Finances prevent that so I guess I would just have to move into the shellter so I could be with them all the time. My pride does not have too many spats, but most of them occur when I sit down. Everyone wants lap privileges. Of course, if I won the sweepstakes, then I could buy a lot of land, build a large house and take them all. But with my luck I don't think that will happen. Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: I'd really like to know about this. We lost one of our FelV girls this weekend. Her name was Mimi, but I always called her Meem. She was the first to greet me when I'd go to my no-kill cageless shelter. She was in our FelV room, and she was a sweet, gentle little lady We miss her very much. Lorrie On 02-15, Natalie wrote: I am so sorry to hear about all the little ones that have died! I am reading something very interesting that may help all of our FeLV cats. Hydrogen-peroxide therapy - any form of cancer dies in oxygen. I know the exact dosages for humans, but must do some research on what to do for FeLV/FIV positive cats...it apparently acts the same way as interferon (creates oxygen), but without the side effects. I am anxious to get all the info and try it on my two guys as soon as we get back from Mexico - BTW - it's freezing here at night, days aren't too warm, either, but we have plenty of sunshine! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport?
I have to say, that's impressive, to have a help desk at the humane society.. Gloria in Arkansas On Feb 20, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Second Chance Meows wrote: you can contact the Nevada humane society at 775-856-2000 and ask for the help desk they can contact volunteers that might help in Nevada and close in to the state Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport? MIchael, We have 3 kittens needing to go from Austin to Reno. We have someone to drive the first leg. What we need is someone to help us coordinate the rest of the legs and possibly teach me in the process. On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com wrote: what can i help you with? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Jenine jenmarac...@gbis.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport? Michael, They will be coming here to Reno. Have been meaning to contact you anyway, so this may be the right time. Feel free to email me. jenmarac...@gbis.com Jenine On 2/18/2011 5:31 PM, Second Chance Meows wrote: where in Nevada do they need to go? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Kelley Saveikamoonv...@gmail.com To: felvtalkFelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 4:19 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport? We have the 3 FELV+ kittens here (Austin) needing to go to Nevada with as little stress as possible. I have no experience at all in this area; however, we do have a person willing to drive the first leg. Anyone experienced with transport who can help? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Scrappy Angel over the Rainbow Bridge today
I'm so sorry, Paola, I know how it is. All our bridge children are there with him, showing him the way. Gloria On Feb 24, 2011, at 10:26 PM, paola cresti wrote: My little Scrappy boy was coming to the end of his fight, I only had him for 8 months when he walked into my home and was already in bad condition, hence the Scrappy name, I didn't think he was going to live 1 month. at that time. Though I should have named him Angel for all the love he gave me, he'd started responding to Scrappy so I kept calling him that. I've had plenty of cats in my lifetime, not often do they care for face to face contact with people, but he'd look straight into my eyes lean forward and rub his cheek on mine, even placing his paws on my chest to stabilize himself when reaching for me (sometimes I wouldn't realize right away what he was doing). The vet said he was 8 years old, so he must have contracted FeLV as an adult. He'd stopped eating, had labored breathing and had taken to hiding. His sunken eyes lost any indication of light and so we stopped any more injections or treatments and I had to have him laid to rest today. Thank you for reading, and for all the information and support I got from this mail-list Paola ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Money in trust for cats........
You know, mine have very rarely needed dental work. I've had many cats and only 1 hyperthyroid, and he's 22 - not adoptable anyhow. Go figure. Gloria On Feb 28, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Susan Hoffman wrote: When I say senior I'm talking about cats in the 10-15 year age range and it seems they invariably need dental work when they come into rescue. We also always do full blood panels for anyone over 8 years of age. We don't want to risk adopting out a cat who is hyperthyroid or diabetic or in renal failure to someone who just is not prepared to deal with that. Dealing with these things before listing for adoption has made all the difference in the world in finding good homes for cats past 8-10 years of age. --- On Mon, 2/28/11, Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Money in trust for cats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 6:56 PM We provide the same vet care to all adult cats regardless of the age. I don't find the seniors to cost more, but of course most folks don't want to adopt a pet that has a clearly limited short lifespan. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Feb 28, 2011, at 3:54 PM, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote: Oh? Is this a nation-wide requirement or certain areas? And for senior animals only? I never heard that in my neck of the woods and have rescued and found homes for many dogs and several cats. Of course, they are usually younger and are always fully vetted before I take them out for Adoption Days but. Dental required? I have never done dental stuff for any of my animals.I occasionally brush dogs teeth if they have tartar but make sure they eat and chew the right stuff so that isn't a problem. Cats the same. Never had an animal that had a bad tooth needing extraction and I have had a boat load of animals. Am I missing something? Where are these requirements in place? And just for older animals? My one senior kitty has a senior blood panel once a year. All the rest who aren't positives have std vaccinations including for FeLV annually. This gets more and more difficult when all you want to do is love them and let them live out their lives in happiness and peace. K On 2/28/11, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com wrote: What makes the $500/$1000 inadequate is that, from a rescue standpoint, older animals have to be fully vetted before they can be listed for adoption. That includes dental which is so expensive. Adopters are reluctant to take on older or special needs animals because they are afraid of the cost. Now, if the animals are current on cleanings and extractions and have recent senior blood panels then that makes all the difference. --- On Mon, 2/28/11, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote: From: katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Money in trust for cats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 1:35 PM Some great ideas/questions! Thank you all and keep them coming. Right now I am on unemployment and will eventually start receiving a small retirement amt each month that will barely pay the mortgage and food so realizing the $500/$1000 was so totally inadequate - which I should have known - was a set back I will have to deal with. I guess I was thinking it would be a bridge until the care-taker could find forever homes for them. That, of course, leads to another concern about how to be sure the care-taker could be trusted to find good homes.. Not sure about those on-line fund raising sites someone suggested..beg for money? I don't think I would give money to a stranger on line with no real info as to where it will really go so why would I expect anyone else to do so? Sounds strange. I like the idea of someone moving into house but who would oversee that person to make sure the animals are receiving the care they should? My few remaining relatives live many states away and are within a few years of my age or older. What happens to the person/house after the animals alive at the time of my death are no longer living? Maybe as part of the will the house and property could revert to a rescue site? Yikes! How to do that with zoning laws and all And I would have to be sure the house could be paid for at my death ARGHH... I wish I knew a way to find an attorney I could trust to be familiar with these types of situations AND share my love for these furry kids. Maybe listed in the yellow pages under Attorneys - Animal Trusts??? or something? ;-) And would be willing and able to do it without charging an arm and a leg. Sigh. So much to think about. Keep the ideas coming.. And thank you all. Kat On 2/26/11, Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: I'm so glad my family knows how important
[Felvtalk] MaryChristine
Just fyi, for those who know MaryChristine - she had heart bypass surgery on Monday, over yonder in New York State. The update from a friend of hers says that she's out of intensive care, now in a regular room, and doing well. Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Transport
Where they going, Kelley? On Mar 16, 2011, at 11:16 AM, POTT, BEVERLY wrote: Here's another one: http://operationroger.rescuegroups.org/ -Original Message- From: Kelley Saveika [mailto:moonv...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:59 PM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Transport Hi there, Does anyone know anything about transport? I am trying to get these 2 FELV+ kitties to various far flung places (if anyone adopts them - no one has yet). I do not know the first thing about it. Often our adopters have limited funds and cannot afford to pay to transport, and time is of the essence when dealing with this shelter as they kill FELV+ cats first. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can't complain about it, that they can't fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Please add ChooChoo to the bridge list
Please add ChooChoo to the bridge list. She died on March 19. She was a Russian blue (with white) FELV kitty that I found at a farm in east Arkansas, in 2008. Moved her to my home in Little Rock, and found out she was FELV positive. She was a friendly kitty, had a mind of her own, seemed to enjoy life here. She may have been 6 mo to 1 yr old at the time of rescue. This puts her in the neighborhood of 3 yrs old, which is about when I often lose my FELV cats, if they had the virus as a kitten. I hadn't seen any signs of real illness, but she had been a little more subdued for a couple of days. Sleep soft sweet ChooChoo. Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question.....
One thought process that I've run into is that a healthy adult cat (FELV negative) has a hearty enough immune system to successfully deal with the FELV virus without acquiring it. I can't see that vaccinating them at this point would be of value. Just my 2c Gloria From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Date: March 21, 2011 12:07:44 PM CDT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Yet another question. Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I've mentioned my kitty Two Face earlier because she died two weeks ago and when they did the necropsy they found out she had a huge tumor and was FeLV +. Since then I've had a few of my other kitties tested with the combo/snap test at the vet's office. All have come out negative so far, thank the Lord for that. These other kitties that have tested negative lived with Two Face for over a year. Sharing litterboxes, food bowls and all that stuff. I would think that would mean that they had enough exposure to the virus to get it in their system and that they either extinguished the virus or put it into a dormant status. Is that a reasonable assumption? My main question now is should I give them a FeLV vaccination. If they did get the virus in their system and extinguished it then they're immune for life, right? If so, there's no need for a vaccination. Is it possible with all that exposure that they didn't get enough of the virus into their system to do any harm? If that's the case then I should vaccinate them? I just don't know how they could not have gotten enough exposure since they lived together and shared everything for over a year. Thoughts? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Time to step down from rescuing for a time being
Dear Terrie, I'm so sorry, so sad for what you're going through. He sounds young to me. Been thru hospice with a boyfriend several years ago. I hope there are some sweet moments in the times you share together. Thinking about you and sending all kinds of good thoughts and wishes. Gloria From: ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 8:09:59 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Time to step down from rescuing for a time being. Hi all,I'm taking some time off from rescue due to my husband's illness. He has liver failure and is not a candidate for a transplant. He has been hospitalized 2 times this month and once last month he was placed into a skill nursing facility since the 18th of February after the first trip to the hospital. He is in the end final stage of his disease his liver has stopped working. Can die at any given time. He is being given all the pain meds he wants for comfort so he will most likely fall asleep an never wake up again. I want to make myself available at all times for him. He is only 64 years old... I know to some of you that may sound old but it isn't really. Hospice has been part of this as well to help me cope with all of this. Hospice is available to me 24 hours a day. Sincerely, Terrie TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright C 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Husband's Obiituary
Thanks for posting, Terrie, what a lovely man, I appreciated reading the obituary. My heart goes out to you. Gloria From: ter...@tazzys.org Date: April 6, 2011 10:37:05 PM CDT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Husband's Obiituary Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Here is the main link to the paper I put my husband's obituary. Just click on the obit look for Bobby Forker it will only be online for 30 days. In the local paper Thursday and Sunday. There will be a photo of him. I hope it turns out alright. http://www.heraldnet.com/ TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
I live in Arkansas. I know there are some quacks out there, but I always appreciate the folks who study and offer alternative treatments, as our environment in the USA isn't very supportive of that. Wish there was more research into this area. I've used a number of alternative treatments, and have witnessed folks I know who've gotten cancer, looking at something to help. I sure hope your friend finds a way. It's been a long time since I've looked into this, but ozone is also used for similar purposes as H2O2. Gloria - Original Message - From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil My friend moved to Arkansaw several years ago. She has contracted Rocky Mountain Fever and is very sick. Nothing is helping. She is now seeing a holistic doctor and he is giving her hydrogen peroxide IV's. Rocky Mountain Fever can become cancer. -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma
If you put the kitty in a cage or secure porch or outbuilding for a couple of weeks, she will learn where she gets her food, where home is, and hopefully stay around. Course this depends on your having the right weather, or a porch with the right temperature and protection, etc. You might also be able to find someone who takes outdoor cats, who will do the same thing, to keep kitty put up for a while so that she learns where home is. I gather they didn't eartip to show that kitty was altered, unfortunately. Good luck with your kitty - Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Defying the Odds
I just do not believe that FELV is that contagious. We know FIV isn't that contagious except thru deep bite wounds. I kind of think it's the same thing with FELV. I've had the same thing happen - had a kitty die, had a necropsy, and she had FELV/FIV. None of the other cats got it. I knew she was FIV, but didn't know about the FELV. Lived several years with those cats. Gloria dlgegg at windstream.net dlgegg at windstream.net Fri Aug 12 17:04:43 CDT 2011 Maybe his immune system had improved since he first got FIV so he was abl to ward off the felv. Natalie atia2 at optonline.net wrote: That's one for the booksamazing! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of molveywda at hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 8:33 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Defying the Odds Check this out - I have an FIV positive cat living with me. He's an older gentleman that I took in a couple of years ago. In March a two year old cat of mine died and that's when we discovered she had FeLV. She tested negative as a kitten. She and my FIV positive kitty lived together sharing food and water bowls and everything. I think he used to groom her too when she was a kitten. I had him, the FIV kitty, combo tested yesterday. Can you believe that booger is negative for FeLV? Talk about defying the odds. Doesn't make sense that an immune compromised kitty did not contract the disease. You can't predict anything regarding this disease. I just assumed he had gotten it from her. Just wanted to share my good but very confusing news. sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC ___ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX
Yup sounds weird, I'm curious too. Sounds like maybe he's getting sick and anemic from the FELV, but you never know, could just have something simple. Gloria On Aug 21, 2011, at 4:59 AM, gary wrote: Kelly, Please contact me off list about this kitty. I would love to know exactly what condition is treatable and what treatment would make him very infectious beyond being as infectious as he is now. g Gary From: Kelley Saveika Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:31 PM To: felvtalk Cc: teeja...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX Hey folks, got an emergency with a possible FELV+ cat in Austin, Texas. He's had one snap test (and that's with the felv/fiv/ heartworm test, which we know there are a lot of false +s with). There is no one to hold him for a confirmatory IFA. Someone wrote me asking for help, this is her description of him: He is slated to be euthanized at 5pm today. This boy is very affectionate, loving to be held, petted, scratched, etc. He was even purring while being petted at the counter at the vet's office with all the strange scents and animal noises going on! He's pretty sick at the moment. Vet says he's extremely anemic. That's why he hasn't been eating much. And the heat has exacerbated the problem since he's been an outdoor cat. Vet also says the condition is treatable, but the treatment makes him very infectious. So what he needs is an indoor home either in a one-cat household or in a house where all the cats are feline leukemia positive. It's breaking my heart because he's such a sweetie. I'm hoping to find someone who can provide a home for this baby so he won't have to be euthanized. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI
I was thinking about that. I haven't been following all of this, but with anemia, that's what I did with Mittens (a long time ago). Some vets just aren't really willing or able to try and help a sick FELV cat - though they might be trainable :) You can of course give him sub- q fluids at home. My vet said that we could do a couple of blood transfusions, ,but that no more than that. Not sure why - for biological reasons or practical reasons. but a transfusion might pump him up till he could get LTCI or interferon or something. Course as I recall, interferon alpha is more of a preventative than a treatment. Not sure about interferon omega. Gloria On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote: Marcia, Has Fletch had a blood transfusion yet? I've heard this helps tremendously. Did your vet tell you she will order the LCTI? Did she do any lab work to find out what his blood cell counts are? He may have not cried all the way there because he is too weak. I'm so sorry he is such bad shape!! In my opinion, just go with your heart. I know you don't want the poor little guy to suffer. Hugs~ Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI Hi everyone I hope everyone and all kitties are happy and doing well. I'm really afraid that I am going to lose Fletch. I took him back to the vet yesterday for sub q fluids. He had a temp of over 105. Bonier than what he was last week. She gave him a long lasting penicillin shot. She did mention that most people don't mess with it, they euthanize. He didn't cry all the way there (25 miles) which is highly unusual. I gave her the info on LCTI and she was on the computer looking it up when I left. I asked just HOW sick is fletch and she said VERY. When I got him home he was extremely off balance and couldn't navigate. He wasn't like that the day before. His quality of life sucks! It's hard for me to tell if this is permanent or just a passing bacterial infection. Opinions from the experts? (all of you)(-: Thanks so much Marcia Sent from my iPad On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:13 PM, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote: Is each vial an individual dose or are there multiple doses per vial? I am afraid this is way too expensive for my unemployment check but want the info if I have to try to find a way to obtain it. Thanks Kat On 8/31/11, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com wrote: Hi, I just ordered 10 vials for $420 plus shipping through a distributor in Texas, let me know if someone needs more infor. From: drsiebl...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:58:05 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI Definitely try to get some LTCI. We put dexter on it for the last few weeks of his life and I feel that if we had started sooner, he might have lived a bit longer. LTCI is only available from the manufacturer: www.tcyte.com - if your vet will order it, they will overnight the medication to the vet. I was paying roughly $60 per dose at 1 dose every three days. It is possible to be more aggressive with the treatment and administer it daily. The other up-side to this medication is that it is administered via sub- cutaneous injection - immunoregulin, on the the other hand, is via IV injection. The IV injection will stress the kitty out about 1000 times more than a sub-q injection. Immunoregulin also made Dexter spike a fever after each dose - something he didn't need and quickly wore him out. Tcyte can also slow the inevitable appearance of dreaded lymphatic cancer. Many benefits with this stuff. Please call the tcyte folks tomorrow - they are very helpful and will give you all the info you need. -- My iPhone told me to send this message. -- On Aug 30, 2011, at 10:43 PM, Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone I really need some help. fletch is really not feeling well. His fever is back and he hides in the basement. Two times now he has missed doses of his antibiotic because i cannot find him anywhere. It seems like I can feel more of his backbone and his hipbones even though he continues to eat, but not as well. I don't know what to think. I feel so bad for him, he seems miserable.He acts like the base of his ear hurts when I touch him but the vet said he had never seen such clean ears. I think I need a different antibiotic, this amoxi isn't working, or doees it take longer to work? There seemed to be a teensy bit of improvement, but now I feel like he looks as bad as the day I took him to the vet. What about this LTCI. Is this something I should discuss with my vet? Is it better than immunoregulin. I just feel like my poor little cat is wasting away here fast and there's something else I can be doing for him What do I do
Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI
Hmmm. Think blood work would add some insight into things like potassium, blood counts. Can see if anemic, etc. Good that his gums are pink. Not sure about the baby aspirin, maybe she's assuming pain? How bout some Pettinic or something like that with b vitamins possibly? Gloria On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote: She did not do lab work. She said it won't make any difference in the way he will be treated. She had not heard of the ltci but did seem interested after reading through some of the data. She immediately got on the computer to look it up. My a ppt was at the end of the day so she said she wasn't to sure she could even talk to them and may not be able to until Tuesday because of the holiday. I think that they think he is too far gone. But how could it be that Thursday morning he comes up the stairs, rubs all over my legs, purrs and now he can't walk without stumbling all over? That makes no sense to me. Could it be that he is low on potassium? But how, when he had fluids? Maybe he has a brain tumor or something. He just peed on my couch twice. Just laid there and did it. Not like him. She also said he is not anemic. His nose is very pink and his gums are pink. Well that's all I know. Oh, I did just give him 500 mcg of methyl B12. It won't hurt! She also told me to give him 81 mg of baby aspirin 2X a week. Thanks you guys for listening(-: Sent from my iPad On Sep 3, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: I was thinking about that. I haven't been following all of this, but with anemia, that's what I did with Mittens (a long time ago). Some vets just aren't really willing or able to try and help a sick FELV cat - though they might be trainable :) You can of course give him sub-q fluids at home. My vet said that we could do a couple of blood transfusions, ,but that no more than that. Not sure why - for biological reasons or practical reasons. but a transfusion might pump him up till he could get LTCI or interferon or something. Course as I recall, interferon alpha is more of a preventative than a treatment. Not sure about interferon omega. Gloria On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote: Marcia, Has Fletch had a blood transfusion yet? I've heard this helps tremendously. Did your vet tell you she will order the LCTI? Did she do any lab work to find out what his blood cell counts are? He may have not cried all the way there because he is too weak. I'm so sorry he is such bad shape!! In my opinion, just go with your heart. I know you don't want the poor little guy to suffer. Hugs~ Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI Hi everyone I hope everyone and all kitties are happy and doing well. I'm really afraid that I am going to lose Fletch. I took him back to the vet yesterday for sub q fluids. He had a temp of over 105. Bonier than what he was last week. She gave him a long lasting penicillin shot. She did mention that most people don't mess with it, they euthanize. He didn't cry all the way there (25 miles) which is highly unusual. I gave her the info on LCTI and she was on the computer looking it up when I left. I asked just HOW sick is fletch and she said VERY. When I got him home he was extremely off balance and couldn't navigate. He wasn't like that the day before. His quality of life sucks! It's hard for me to tell if this is permanent or just a passing bacterial infection. Opinions from the experts? (all of you)(-: Thanks so much Marcia Sent from my iPad On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:13 PM, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote: Is each vial an individual dose or are there multiple doses per vial? I am afraid this is way too expensive for my unemployment check but want the info if I have to try to find a way to obtain it. Thanks Kat On 8/31/11, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com wrote: Hi, I just ordered 10 vials for $420 plus shipping through a distributor in Texas, let me know if someone needs more infor. From: drsiebl...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:58:05 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI Definitely try to get some LTCI. We put dexter on it for the last few weeks of his life and I feel that if we had started sooner, he might have lived a bit longer. LTCI is only available from the manufacturer: www.tcyte.com - if your vet will order it, they will overnight the medication to the vet. I was paying roughly $60 per dose at 1 dose every three days. It is possible to be more aggressive with the treatment and administer it daily. The other up-side to this medication is that it is administered via sub- cutaneous injection - immunoregulin, on the the other hand, is via IV injection
Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI
Which liquid human B's? I might like to get some - like from the drug store, etc? Gloria On Sep 3, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Marcia wrote: Gloria I got on a CRf site that I've used and they recommended human b's. So I am giving him liquid b complex and also the methyl b 12 since the bcomplex isn't high in b12. I also ordered wellness canned food. He has eaten twice today. I mix it with water for fluids. But I do have to stick it under his nose and hold the bowl for him (and I don't mind). (-: Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: Hmmm. Think blood work would add some insight into things like potassium, blood counts. Can see if anemic, etc. Good that his gums are pink. Not sure about the baby aspirin, maybe she's assuming pain? How bout some Pettinic or something like that with b vitamins possibly? Gloria On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote: She did not do lab work. She said it won't make any difference in the way he will be treated. She had not heard of the ltci but did seem interested after reading through some of the data. She immediately got on the computer to look it up. My a ppt was at the end of the day so she said she wasn't to sure she could even talk to them and may not be able to until Tuesday because of the holiday. I think that they think he is too far gone. But how could it be that Thursday morning he comes up the stairs, rubs all over my legs, purrs and now he can't walk without stumbling all over? That makes no sense to me. Could it be that he is low on potassium? But how, when he had fluids? Maybe he has a brain tumor or something. He just peed on my couch twice. Just laid there and did it. Not like him. She also said he is not anemic. His nose is very pink and his gums are pink. Well that's all I know. Oh, I did just give him 500 mcg of methyl B12. It won't hurt! She also told me to give him 81 mg of baby aspirin 2X a week. Thanks you guys for listening(-: Sent from my iPad On Sep 3, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: I was thinking about that. I haven't been following all of this, but with anemia, that's what I did with Mittens (a long time ago). Some vets just aren't really willing or able to try and help a sick FELV cat - though they might be trainable :) You can of course give him sub-q fluids at home. My vet said that we could do a couple of blood transfusions, ,but that no more than that. Not sure why - for biological reasons or practical reasons. but a transfusion might pump him up till he could get LTCI or interferon or something. Course as I recall, interferon alpha is more of a preventative than a treatment. Not sure about interferon omega. Gloria On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote: Marcia, Has Fletch had a blood transfusion yet? I've heard this helps tremendously. Did your vet tell you she will order the LCTI? Did she do any lab work to find out what his blood cell counts are? He may have not cried all the way there because he is too weak. I'm so sorry he is such bad shape!! In my opinion, just go with your heart. I know you don't want the poor little guy to suffer. Hugs~ Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI Hi everyone I hope everyone and all kitties are happy and doing well. I'm really afraid that I am going to lose Fletch. I took him back to the vet yesterday for sub q fluids. He had a temp of over 105. Bonier than what he was last week. She gave him a long lasting penicillin shot. She did mention that most people don't mess with it, they euthanize. He didn't cry all the way there (25 miles) which is highly unusual. I gave her the info on LCTI and she was on the computer looking it up when I left. I asked just HOW sick is fletch and she said VERY. When I got him home he was extremely off balance and couldn't navigate. He wasn't like that the day before. His quality of life sucks! It's hard for me to tell if this is permanent or just a passing bacterial infection. Opinions from the experts? (all of you)(-: Thanks so much Marcia Sent from my iPad On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:13 PM, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote: Is each vial an individual dose or are there multiple doses per vial? I am afraid this is way too expensive for my unemployment check but want the info if I have to try to find a way to obtain it. Thanks Kat On 8/31/11, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com wrote: Hi, I just ordered 10 vials for $420 plus shipping through a distributor in Texas, let me know if someone needs more infor. From: drsiebl...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:58:05 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI
Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI
OK Thanks - yup I like Twinlab. Gloria On Sep 3, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Marcia wrote: Super b complex by twinlab. I ordered from amazon. U can get a twinpack. Gmc also makes liquid b's with more b12 but not as wide a spectrum of the different b's. I just give the b12 separate. Cat dose is 1/10 of human dose. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: Which liquid human B's? I might like to get some - like from the drug store, etc? Gloria On Sep 3, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Marcia wrote: Gloria I got on a CRf site that I've used and they recommended human b's. So I am giving him liquid b complex and also the methyl b 12 since the bcomplex isn't high in b12. I also ordered wellness canned food. He has eaten twice today. I mix it with water for fluids. But I do have to stick it under his nose and hold the bowl for him (and I don't mind). (-: Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: Hmmm. Think blood work would add some insight into things like potassium, blood counts. Can see if anemic, etc. Good that his gums are pink. Not sure about the baby aspirin, maybe she's assuming pain? How bout some Pettinic or something like that with b vitamins possibly? Gloria On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote: She did not do lab work. She said it won't make any difference in the way he will be treated. She had not heard of the ltci but did seem interested after reading through some of the data. She immediately got on the computer to look it up. My a ppt was at the end of the day so she said she wasn't to sure she could even talk to them and may not be able to until Tuesday because of the holiday. I think that they think he is too far gone. But how could it be that Thursday morning he comes up the stairs, rubs all over my legs, purrs and now he can't walk without stumbling all over? That makes no sense to me. Could it be that he is low on potassium? But how, when he had fluids? Maybe he has a brain tumor or something. He just peed on my couch twice. Just laid there and did it. Not like him. She also said he is not anemic. His nose is very pink and his gums are pink. Well that's all I know. Oh, I did just give him 500 mcg of methyl B12. It won't hurt! She also told me to give him 81 mg of baby aspirin 2X a week. Thanks you guys for listening(-: Sent from my iPad On Sep 3, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: I was thinking about that. I haven't been following all of this, but with anemia, that's what I did with Mittens (a long time ago). Some vets just aren't really willing or able to try and help a sick FELV cat - though they might be trainable :) You can of course give him sub-q fluids at home. My vet said that we could do a couple of blood transfusions, ,but that no more than that. Not sure why - for biological reasons or practical reasons. but a transfusion might pump him up till he could get LTCI or interferon or something. Course as I recall, interferon alpha is more of a preventative than a treatment. Not sure about interferon omega. Gloria On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote: Marcia, Has Fletch had a blood transfusion yet? I've heard this helps tremendously. Did your vet tell you she will order the LCTI? Did she do any lab work to find out what his blood cell counts are? He may have not cried all the way there because he is too weak. I'm so sorry he is such bad shape!! In my opinion, just go with your heart. I know you don't want the poor little guy to suffer. Hugs~ Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI Hi everyone I hope everyone and all kitties are happy and doing well. I'm really afraid that I am going to lose Fletch. I took him back to the vet yesterday for sub q fluids. He had a temp of over 105. Bonier than what he was last week. She gave him a long lasting penicillin shot. She did mention that most people don't mess with it, they euthanize. He didn't cry all the way there (25 miles) which is highly unusual. I gave her the info on LCTI and she was on the computer looking it up when I left. I asked just HOW sick is fletch and she said VERY. When I got him home he was extremely off balance and couldn't navigate. He wasn't like that the day before. His quality of life sucks! It's hard for me to tell if this is permanent or just a passing bacterial infection. Opinions from the experts? (all of you)(-: Thanks so much Marcia Sent from my iPad On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:13 PM, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote: Is each vial an individual dose or are there multiple doses per vial? I am afraid this is way too expensive for my unemployment
Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
Same here. When I first got an FELV cat, I was paranoid. But that was in 2001. Many of us don't think it's as contagious as is presented. I've mixed mine with my others for several years, no problem. All mine are altered and sit around and eat and sleep. Some of what I've learned is1) they may live a long time, may not, 2) they're not that contagious, 3) double positives (FIV/FELV) don't live as long,4) If they're born with FELV they tend to die at 2.5-3 yrs old, 5) interferon and stuff like that are worth a try. Oh yeah, and always questions your vets advice :) Gloria On Sep 7, 2011, at 1:25 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: The virus isn't airborne. it has to get into the bloodstream. I have a couple of FELV cats,but they r with my other cats. --- On Wed, 9/7/11, April Johnson cupcake292...@yahoo.com wrote: From: April Johnson cupcake292...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2011, 2:16 PM Hi Dot, This is all new to me too. I do have other cats at home, Spicy lives in a bedroom by herself. She has two windows to look out of, a cat tree and a sofa. Spicy has had no signs of the illness. So I didn't know she had it. I adopted her the first weekend in June and took her to the vet a week later. The receptionist at my vets was the one that stressed getting the test done because she knew that the shelter I adopted her from didn't test, I had no idea. So for a week she was with my other cats. I just looked it up there are 6 stages of FELV. Spicy is in stage 5. From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV Hi April - I just read your mail. My cat, Chloe, female one year old, pretty gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive. I have known since June when she had a fever. She has stabilized and is doing so well now. Very healthy and playful. She is a little squirt, i call her. I have been looking for a home for her since I have two other negative cats and have to keep them separated. She is so cute. i hated to just put her down so figured i would give it a shot to see if i could adopt her. Do you have other cats at home? How is your cat doing now? You said it's in her bone marrow. Are there different stages? I am not sure totally about the disease as this is the first cat I have ever had in 30 years that has the leukemia. So, it is all new to me also. Dot (freehold, NJ) From: April Johnson cupcake292...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Update Hi, A couple of weeks ago I posted about my cat Spicy who I had adopted from animal control unaware she hadn't been tested for FELV/FIV. I was questioning whether to get her a friend or not. Last week I had her blood sent out to confirm if she really had FELV. Well her results came in yesterday, it's in her bone marrow. I still haven't decided on a friend for her yet, I'm unsure what to do with my house already full. I think I would need to adopt another cat with it already in their bone marrow too, right? I've never had a FELV+ cat, so I don't know what to do. April ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] interferon alpha injected?
One of the vets here told someone with an FELV cat, that she could use interferon alpha as an injection. He didn't mention low dose ORAL interferon alpha. It's been my understanding that the interferon was absorbed in the back of the throat. Has anyone used interferon alpha as an injection rather than orally? Thanks, Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] retesting kittens
I'm a volunteer and foster for a local cat rescue, and I always wait and retest kittens when they test FELV positive. I don't deal with kittens that much anymore, and forget the time period for the wait, but somebody local has had some test positive and needs to know about retesting. Seems like it's a couple of months after they test positive, that you retest, but wanted to check. Anybody know? Thanks! Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ Cat - Chincoteague Island - URGENT-Transportation Available
I mix my FELV's with my non-FELV's - have had no problem. Several on this list do. Also I have a friend who has 1 FELV and 1 non-FELV - she gives the FELV kitty oral interferon alpha, which is well known on this list. They're both 4-5 yrs old now, doing fine. FYI - Gloria On Nov 20, 2011, at 12:00 PM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org wrote: From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org Date: November 19, 2011 12:36:26 PM CST To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ Cat - Chincoteague Island - URGENT- Transportation Available Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org The woman trying to help the cat on Chincoteague Island sent me some additional information, so I thought I'd share it here. He only has 11 days to find a home, foster, or rescue. Please feel free to crosspost. Thanks, Cindy Here's the info she sent: There is a resident population of feral cats at Tom's Cove Campground. Some of the people living there put food out. Occasionally a cat is trapped and taken to an area vet. Storm showed up after Hurricane Irene. He was trapped and taken to the vet to get shaved down because he was badly matted and infested with fleas. At the vet's it was discovered he was already neutered. His ears were not notched and he has no microchip. Storm has not shown any aggression at all. He is fed separately, but the other cats don't bother him. He is not feral. I was asked if I would take him home with me when I visited in October. I took him to the local vet to be tested and that is when it was discovered that he is FeLV+. I have a 3yo female cat who is FeLV-. There is no way I could keep him separated from my cat. While the rest of the colony will survive the winter, it is doubtful if Storm would make it through the winter outside and without a regular source of food. The campground where he is now closes at the end of November. I honestly think he would make a wonderful pet. From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Date: November 19, 2011 4:08:53 PM CST To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question (Maureen) Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org On 11-17, Maureen Olvey wrote: I kind of have to vaccinate. I brought in a FeLV positive kitten and since I doubt I will be able to adopt her out I need to vaccinate my others because I'm not planning on keeping them separated forever. Maybe I should but I don't have the set up for that. I hate over - vaccinating too but I think I have to in this case. I have to vaccinate for FelV too, and I simply hate to do it. However, I recently discovered that two of the cats in the shelter/sanctuary building I own are FelV pos. They have mixed with all the other cats there for years and none have had FelV vaccinations. Currently they are all healthy. These are not my 15 cats at home. They are all FelV neg and are never with my sanctuary cats. Anyway, I'd also like to know which of the FelV vaccinations are the best and least likely to cause VAS. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Is my kitten having his first FIV/FELV episode?
Hi Rashel, I think your kitty needs to see the vet asap. Can't tell of course, but he could have fluid in the abdominal area, or some other difficulty that really needs attention. Gloria - Original Message - From: Rashel Mereness To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:12 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Is my kitten having his first FIV/FELV episode? Hi - I'm new and have been reading the threads but I don't seen anything that addresses my situation. We have an 8 month old kitty that tested positive for FIV (or was it FELV?) at a young age, and we plan to get him retested. He has been healthy, playful and had a great appetite. A few weeks ago, however, he started eating less and less of his kibble, which we attributed to him wanting only the wet food we were giving to the dog. So we kept mixing a little into his kibble but he was eating less but was otherwise fine. Then we went away over the weekend and came back to find him very lethargic and breathing very heavy - not making a lot of noise with the breathing, but we can see his lungs expanding and contracting a great deal and very quickly. He won't eat, except he ate some of his favorite treats. We had someone (who he doesn't know) staying at our house Friday and then a person (who he knows) stopping in on Saturday and Sunday. They said he didn't eat much. No mucous, no sneezing. Sound like anything you have experienced? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Good morning from South America :)
In my experience, my kittens that have been born with FELV and kept the virus havent live much past 2-3 yrs of age. But sometimes their immune systems will throw the virus off and they'll test negative later. And my cats that have acquired FELV after birth can live a long time, and when be tested again (Elisa or IFA) can go negative. With mine, usually once they get sick (not a cold but really sick), they dont come out of it, they drift away and pass on. Their passing is usually easy. I don't think I've had many(if any) die of leukemia, usually other things like lymphoma. I vaccinate when new cats (not FELV) come into the house, generally not after that. I had one cat die several years ago, had tested negative when she came in, but when I had her necropsied after death she was positive for FELV. All the cats she was with tested negative. I have two FELV cats now, have had them maybe 4 years, and they've never been sick. BUT I only tested them once with the Elisa test, so need to test again and see if it shows positive or negative. There are also some subtypes of the FELV virus and that may play a role in how a cat does. I;ve used Interferon Alpha for immune stimulation, also Dr Belfield's Vitamin C, never used Interferon Omega. Have recently come across a new homeopathic treatment at http://www.pets4homeopathy.com/feline-leukemia-feline-aids-immune-system.html, which sounds very good and I ordered some - Best of Luck, Gloria in Arkansas From: Michele Fougeres atomicbetti...@hotmail.com Date: April 29, 2013 11:14:01 AM CDT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Good morning from South America :) Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi everyone, I'm new to this group. My husband and I recently adopted a male cat; we named him Abelardo. We noticed he wasn't in very good shape, and that he was desperately looking for a home, so we rescued him. He's FeLV positive and also has anemia. He has low counts for red blood cells, hematocrit, hemoglobin and leukocytes. The test to determine if he was FeLV positive was an antigen test (Elisa). No one performs IFA's tests in Ecuador, my country of residence. The vet said that giving he’s a young cat and that he has been fighting with a urinary tract infection and showing progress, it’s possible that he will become a carrier and will be able to lead a normal life. My research on the internet indicates that after diagnosis, cats usually live for 3 or 4 more years. I asked the doctor about the chance of this being a false positive, but he said that with the antigen test the margin of error is very small. I’ve read about cats that fight the virus and are able to eliminate it from their organisms, later testing negative for FeLV. I don’t want to have false expectations, but I want to hang on to whatever hope there’s still out there for him. We've started him on a biostimulant therapy treatment that will last for 2 weeks with Yatren Caseína (an immune stimulant manufactured by Bayer, don’t know if it’s sold in the USA), which consists of Casein and Yatreinic Acid. This is supposed to help him increase his white blood cells. We are hoping this will boost his immune system. He has also been taking Isoprinosine and B complex with iron syrup for almost 2 weeks. I don’t know if my cat is receiving the best treatment or what should I do to increase the odds of him not having to suffer because of this terrible illness. I’m willing to buy medicine from another country if needed. The vet advised to test my other cat after 30 days to see how he's doing -I have a 9 year old cat who's in perfect health-. I'm concerned now as he shared the litter box and bowls with the FeLV positive cat for almost 48 hours, I didn't even think about this as a risk, and now I feel terribly guilty for placing my beloved pet in danger. If he isn't infected, then I should look into applying him the FeLV vaccine, which is not sold in Ecuador yet. I have to see if there are ways to purchase the vaccine in the US and have it sent to Ecuador through a merchant. I want to keep the FeLV positive cat with me, as chances are no one will want him or will take care of him the way he needs to. We have grown so fond of him, he’s such an adorable, loving cat. I thought about dividing my apartment so the sick cat will not have to remain confined in just one room. I can have the cats’ alternate spaces every week, after disinfecting everything properly with Clorox and not letting them share the same litter boxes or bowls. Do you think this will be a good idea? I'm desperate and I need all the information I can get, as you are all going through the same ordeal, sometimes with moments of happiness when we see even a little sign of improvement. It's comforting to be able to read about your experiences. Abelardo has his ups and downs, days when he only
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
I'm on Digest version of this list, and it's not easy to reply... but I learned about Gentian Violet when I was a kid, and it worked great for ringworm - mine was on my hand. I've since used it on cats when appropriate and it worked. I generally use Golden Seal tincture (from the health food store, about $8), as it works well and isn't purple. But have used Malaseb shampoo and it worked well. I don't use Grisiofulvin since it's systemic, unless it's a bad case of ringworm - has a Persian like that so did use the Grisiofulvin. I read up on Advantage Multi a while back, and didn't like some of the reports of it - so I never use Advantage Multi. Cheers, Gloria From: Catherine Chang changic...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm Hi felv friends, I was away from emails for several days, so I am not sure whether bathing options has been mentioned in this thread about ringworm. If they been mentioned, please skip this email. If not, here they are: I know 2 shampoos can eliminate ringworm very effectively by just bathing the cat (or just his/her infected area) twice a week. 1. Malaseb shampoo: it contains 2% Miconazole which can treat ringworm very effectively. It is available on Amazon. 2. Nizoral Shampoo: it is a human dandruff shampoo made with Ketoconazole. The 1% version can be obtained in drug stores. Although taking Ketoconazole by mouth could make cat lethargy, such side effect is less seen when only using it by bathing as far as I know. There is also a pet version of 2% Ketoconazole shampoo, but you will need a prescription to get that. hope it helps. catherine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] need home for FELV cat in Ft. Smith, Arkansas
A friend's mother has taken in an FELV cat in Ft Smith, Arkansas. They found out when she was on the table being spayed. Her daughter talked her out of euthanizing the kitty. I told her I'd help look for a home for this kitty. Lance, are you still in that area? I know there used to be a Missouri rescue, also, that took FELV cats, too. Thanks for any suggestions! Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] need home for FELV cat in Ft. Smith, Arkansas
BTW, Lance - I forwarded her the info on the Iowa locations. Also found the Missouri sanctuary I used once before and sent that. Haven't heard from her in a few days so think I'll check in. Thanks! Gloria On Nov 9, 2013, at 3:39 PM, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: Ok thanks Lance- I'll talk w her daughter and give her your email. The mom may prefer phone , I'll see. I appreciate it! Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Nov 9, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: I’m in Fort Smith, but I can’t take anyone in right now. I’ll do some checking with my limited contacts and see if I come up with an option. If the woman would like to talk to an FeLV+ owner, I’d be happy to email or call. On Nov 9, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: A friend's mother has taken in an FELV cat in Ft Smith, Arkansas. They found out when she was on the table being spayed. Her daughter talked her out of euthanizing the kitty. I told her I'd help look for a home for this kitty. Lance, are you still in that area? I know there used to be a Missouri rescue, also, that took FELV cats, too. Thanks for any suggestions! Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: cat bite
Just had to add my 2 cents. Lance, I always prefer Augmentin, and it's always worked well for me. I usually clean the bite with cold water and hydrogen peroxide, and if I see the red lines creeping up my hand and arm, I head for the doctor (started to say vet) and get some Augmentin. One tried to give me something else, I forget what, but it irritated my sensitive tummy and I went back for Augmentin. Fortunately haven't had a bite in a long time :) Glad yours is doing well. Gloria On Dec 14, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Christiane Biagi wrote: Listen, I had one cat, the late great Little Boy, who bit me twice over the years and each time I had to spend the night in the hospital for iv antibiotics. Thing is some cats have this bacteria in their mouth (Pasteurella multocida) and he was one of them. If that bacteria gets into your bloodstream, it can quickly lead to sepsis. He was the only cat I had who had that bugger and he was sweet as pie but a bite was a bad thing. Look for a red line going u your arm...if you start seeing it--go to eroom as you want to stop infection from hitting lymph nodes and causing sepsis. -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lance Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 7:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: cat bite Hi everyone, During play, one of our cats bit me earlier today. I tried to get to an urgent care clinic, but they decided to stop seeing people at 4:30 pm. despite listing hours as 9-5. Real nice. ;-) Anyway, I'm wondering how worried I should be. A lovely pic of the bite can be seen here: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s201/sh/fc76bb30-31ff-40ed-80b1-4f499d5461e4/ 4adec821f3519913f482848c4c5f730b It seems much more superficial and scratchy rather than being a deep puncture wound, and FYI, you're looking at my right arm about two inches above my elbow. We have doxycycline in the house, but the last time I was bitten, I took augmentin. Would prefer to do that, but I'm out of luck for the night, unless I feel like a high-costing trip to the ER (I'm currently inusrance-less, as luck would have it). Has anyone used doxy for cat bites? What symptoms around the bite should I be looking for that indicate its seriousness? I can get in to the urgent clinic tomorrow morning at 9, and the bite happened this afternoon at 3:45. Hopefully that gives me a little time. I know that none of you are MDs (well, I don't know that for sure), but would appreciate input. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite
I think it's safe to put coconut oil on kitty skin - a friend swears by it, uses for ringworm on cats. I usually use Golden Seal, but found the following re coconut oil: http://healthimpactnews.com/2012/pets-and-coconut-oil-an-experiment-with-two-cats/ Gloria On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:04 AM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: From all the things I have read, no oils are safe for cats. I use eucalyptus for my sinus and lavender to help me sleep, but make sure the cats do not get too close when I do. Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote: I researched it before and read no on oregano oil. The phenols in essential oils can not be processed by the feline liver. Lym dyp is safe and effective. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2013, at 10:08 PM, KG BarnCats kgbarnc...@gmail.com wrote: Can oregano oil be used on cats? A friend has two kittens with awful ringworm. So far Program and Vetericyn haven't done much. (Gave her some Vibactra Plus tonite to try boosting the kittens' immune system.) On Tuesday, December 17, 2013, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I'm actually more into natural and homeopathic then conventional medicine. Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Dec 17, 2013, at 6:07 AM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote: -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Dec 17, 2013 12:04 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite I am leary of drs. who want to see/know about herbs, etc. as they might report you for practicing medicine without a license. Unless one is charging for services, simply suggesting or selling a legal product probably presents no legal issue. I've had mixed results with alternative therapies, but don't hesitate to try them, after considerable research. It's probably best to tell your Allopath about anything you're taking, no matter how safe, as some herbal remedies and products can significantly affect physiology. Which means they work :) All the best, Margo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils
I have 2-3 methods I use 1) I started out giving a depomedrol injection periodically (once every 4-6 weeks or as needed). Seems like it's 1/2 cc depo. 2) Then someone suggested oral dexamethasone - so I give about 1/2 cc Dex orally, and it lasts a few days. Sometimes though they're quite resistant to having something squirted in the mouth. 3) the most recent option Ive tried is Zyrtec. I buy Zyrtec at the grocery store or pharmacy. Also got a pill cutter and cut the Zyrtec in half. I put the half zyrtec in wet food once a day. You may need to crush it at first. I've started doing the last two together in some cases. Have found the Zyrtec very helpful for some runny noses too. But to start out, with a difficult cat, I do Depo for about a month and see how that works and if I can switch to Dex. If you google these options you can find out more, of course. Gloria On Dec 21, 2013, at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote: Hi all, Off topic or a new one. My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience with severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young for stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time. My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, we're leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it. It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when yawning, but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has awful breath which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis. Please help! Jen On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote: One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive. He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him. Lorrie On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only a couple. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ringworm.
Hey nice to know about Gary - On Dec 21, 2013, at 4:05 AM, gcru...@centurytel.net gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: I have always used the Walmart brand (Equate) cream for foot fungus and it has worked very well. Not messy and doesn’t smell bad and is cheap. Gary From: Margo Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 5:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ringworm. LymDyp. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils
Probably Clindamycin... I always keep it around. On Dec 21, 2013, at 12:12 PM, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote: I gave my Pookie Clin Drops (short for clin...something). Very economical. Works well for infections that are in the mouth or tissues. Very economical. I also took him for acupuncture. Carolyn On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote: Hi all, Off topic or a new one. My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience with severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young for stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time. My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, we're leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it. It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when yawning, but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has awful breath which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis. Please help! Jen On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote: One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive. He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him. Lorrie On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only a couple. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Prayers needed for Bear
Thinking of you Michelle, and sending healing thoughts and prayers for Bear! Gloria On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:15 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: Turns out it does not look like FIP, looks like hemolytic anemia, where he is killing off his own red blood cells, and the vet simply did not keep him on a high enough dose of immune-suppressants so he crashed again. Now he is really bad. I don't know what his chances are at this point, but I do not think they are good, though the vets say he can turn around. He just got a transfusion and they are starting him on cyclosporine, a stronger immune suppressant. And doxycycline. Please send him prayers. He is FIV+, not FeLV+, though he has had as many issues as my FeLV cats did. I got back on this list looking for feline interferon, which I don't need, but one thing I know this list is good for is prayers. Please pray it's a good Christmas for Bear and he responds well to the transfusion and the cyclosporine. thank you, Michelle ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
Good grief! 26% is beyond high. On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote: Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured. But I did try. Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is only for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. People have had mixed experiences with them. I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. Most of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You definitely need to take as good care of them as possible, get problems treated quickly, and try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that I think, to some extent, that it is a crap shoot.. Michelle -Original Message- From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote: My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is better care for her than she would get from a traditional vet. Just my experience... Chris C. -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv What are your thoughts on this? Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
I think FB page for the kitties is a good idea. On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Kelley wrote: Yes that was just for whoever said the interest rate was low. It is not. But they do have a 6 month interest free option. Thanks to a donation I almost have enough to take one of them to the vet. It is 35 dollars for the holistic vet with a discount on Wednesdays. I'm feeling better since I got the donation and am thinking of making a Facebook page for the kitties - what do y'all think? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: Good grief! 26% is beyond high. On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote: Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured. But I did try. Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is only for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. People have had mixed experiences with them. I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. Most of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You definitely need to take as good care of them as possible, get problems treated quickly, and try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that I think, to some extent, that it is a crap shoot.. Michelle -Original Message- From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote: My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is better care for her than she would get from a traditional vet. Just my experience... Chris C. -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv What are your thoughts on this? Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
What rescue group? On Mar 15, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Kelley wrote: Alabama Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Jennifer Lewis blonded...@mac.com wrote: Go for it. I've already shared them there and will continue to do so. Where are you, Kelley? There may be some additional options for assistance... On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Gloria B. Lane wrote: I think FB page for the kitties is a good idea. On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Kelley wrote: Yes that was just for whoever said the interest rate was low. It is not. But they do have a 6 month interest free option. Thanks to a donation I almost have enough to take one of them to the vet. It is 35 dollars for the holistic vet with a discount on Wednesdays. I'm feeling better since I got the donation and am thinking of making a Facebook page for the kitties - what do y'all think? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: Good grief! 26% is beyond high. On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote: Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured. But I did try. Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is only for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. People have had mixed experiences with them. I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. Most of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You definitely need to take as good care of them as possible, get problems treated quickly, and try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that I think, to some extent, that it is a crap shoot.. Michelle -Original Message- From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote: My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is better care for her than she would get from a traditional vet. Just my experience... Chris C. -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv What are your thoughts on this? Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet visit today
Wonderful, Kelley, glad to hear the good news, and great price. Wish she was closer to me. Gloria in Arkansas On Mar 19, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Kelley wrote: Hi everyone, Coco and I had our first visit to the holistic vet today. I was very excited. It was very different from a traditional vet visit. No exam tables - just cushions on the floor. She gave coco a very thorough exam with plenty of time for questions. She recommends against any further vaccinations (coco has had fvrcp and rabies vaccines) and will write me a waiver for future rabies exams. She recommends a raw diet and supplementation with feline immune system support tablets by standard process. Total bill today was $55.92 including the exam and supplement. I got discounts of $15 for the exam and $2.30 for the supplement. So far we have been donated $45 so that comes close to covering all of it If you live on the gulf coast I highly recommend her. Www.creatingwellbeings.com I will be posting pics on their website later Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
