[Finale] Page heading question
I have a question about how to format page headings. I'm currently using FinWin2K4. How do I get the page headings on pages 2 and after to read [Title Instrument]? Right now it reads [title] as formatted on the document. I can change simple text easily enough, but ... how to format that text to vary from part to part? Is a puzzlement! Thanks! Carl -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius
David McKay wrote: My wife and I are using Finale 2004b. One issue I have is that when I ask it to print 2 copies on my Samsung laser printer SCX 4521f, it prints 4 or 6 copies each time. Printer doesn't misbehave with other software. Don't know if anyone has an answer for that one. I Use FinWin2004b, and my printer (a HP) gives me no problems I don't cause myself. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Loading Libraries
dhbailey wrote: Chuck Israels wrote: Of course, Shakespeare. (The Louis Armstrong of the English language! :) Oh, yeah . . . And if you have to ask what that means, you'll never know. :) cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] O.T. Copyright issues on Choral Wikipedia / cpdl.org
Kim Patrick Clow wrote: Good day: My editor Brian Clark recently discovered that one of his editions just appeared on cpdl.org. He's having a hard time though getting any action because the website seems to be running on automatic (meaning people can upload files without any moderator approving them or checking for copyright violation). Basically it appears that a person lifted the first page sample on my editor's website, re-entered that into a notation program, and then proceded to post it on cpdl.org. THEN they ask for anyone for a complete copy of the sheet music! Brian also blogged about this @ http://bc16661.wordpress.com/ and his email contact is bc16661 @ gmail. com Thanks for any help. Kim Patrick Clow Any idea who is hosting that site? A friend of mine (a novelist) found some of his works posted on-line, and he (and his publishers) went to the site's host and got it shut down. Of course, they are now chasing the site's owners through multiple hosts, but if you make the site harder to find, it suts down on the pirate's business. Luck! cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Loading Libraries
Chuck Israels wrote: Is there a way to load more than one library at a time? Document Options, Expressions, Articulations etc., in one fell swoop? (Wonder where that expressions comes from.) Chuck I dunno about libraries, but Fell Swoop comes from The bard. More specifically, from The Scottish Play. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading
Allen Fisher wrote: This is a bad example. Apple controls all the pieces here, MM cannot force Tobias to spend time updating the full version of TGTools. Force? No. Entice? Probably. cd On Oct 21, 2009, at 8:48 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Again, this points to MakeMusic. One of their most important plugin developers (or the best one IMHO) doesn't have his plugins ready for the release of program? That would be like Apple shipping a new iPod and having iTunes not work fully with it. -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Blessed be the ties that bind ... and, why don't some?
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Well, what you said worked until the part where I try to make the cursor tie all possible notes in the chords. Then, nothing seemed to occur at all. Hmmm Are you sure? Sometimes you have to be zoomed in pretty close to tell. And some notes might have something about them that makes them unfriendly. cd In my experience, the keyboard shortcut to create a tie between two pitches is a toggle: pressing it once and it creates the tie; pressing it twice removes it. If the cursor is on a pitch in the chord, when you press the key the first time it creates a tie between the notes on that pitch, and pressing it a second time creates the tie between the other notes in the chord, and removes the tie between the notes on the pitch on which the cursor is located. If one wishes to create ties between all possible notes in two (existing) chords, one needs to make sure that the cursor is not on any of the pitches represented in either chord. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Canto ergo sum And, I'd rather be composing than decomposing Dean M. Estabrook http://deanestabrook.googlepages.com/home ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: storing old projects
shirling neueweise wrote: fireplace? or manilla envelopes is easy, don't know if they come in a format that would help you though.you could probably make your own folders out of thick card stock, you can buy them in large sheets, like 23x36 inches or something. a bit of string to holf them shut and you're set. I'm tired of using an old laundry basket to store completed projects written on large pieces of manuscript paper (12x18). Anybody using a better method?I would love to store them upright so they're more easily accessible, but I doubt that Staples has anything in stock that I would need. I have a bookcase I keep my music in. The shelves are adjustable to allow for varying heights, and each piece is in a manila envelope. So far, I have 3 1/2 shelves full, and will need a new bookcase soon, but it works pretty well for me. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin
John Howell wrote: At 5:46 PM -0700 10/2/09, Carl Dershem wrote: Read The Gripping Hand by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. Science fiction with aliens who have 3 hands (one to hold things steady, 2 for fine manipulation). Not their best work, but appropriate. And no, they never mentioned if these aliens play piano or drums. :) Or are familiar with Tevya's monologues in Fiddler! John I once played in the pit for a production of Fiddler - an outdoor production directly under the flight path. The planes going over are a tradition, and the theatre has a warning system, with lights hidden in the footlights and on the conductor's podium. When a plane gets close, the warning light goes to yellow, and when very close to red, and everyone freezes on stage, and the music stops (except during dance numbers). During one night's performance, the actor playing Tevye changed his line to And when I get angry, even PLANES don't dare to fly! Brought the house down. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] you can't be serious... (tobias?!?!?!)
shirling neueweise wrote: (grumblegrumblegrumblegrumblegrumblegrumble) new version of TGTools works as expected... fuu-cryinoutloud. man, i just finished most of the work i needed it for ARGH!!! Murphy watches out for us all. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] pfffffffff... selecting systems in layout tool (2010)
Mark D Lew wrote: I've seen some crazy dynamic markings, but pf is a new one to me! I've run across it in performance, but it's kind of messy! :o cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin
dhbailey wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: On 2 Oct 2009 at 14:22, dhbailey wrote: Secondly, ... And later: Secondly, ... Is that like the other left or are you one of those three-handed folks, one the one hand, on the other hand, on the other hand... :) [snip] Oops. Read The Gripping Hand by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. Science fiction with aliens who have 3 hands (one to hold things steady, 2 for fine manipulation). Not their best work, but appropriate. And no, they never mentioned if these aliens play piano or drums. :) cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Interesting behavior
I'm working on a big band piece that has a section in 7 flats (C-Flat) in the middle. Oddly enough, the guitar and bass parts are in 5 sharps (B). FinWin2k4 Does anyone have any idea why Finale might do that? And if so, why the guitar and bass, but not the piano? And not the trombones? Very interesting. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Interesting behavior
Darcy James Argue wrote: Simplify Key is designed to avoid unwieldy, nonstandard keys (like, ahem, Cb major, which IMO you *really* ought to reconsider) on transposing instruments. In the vast majority of cases, this is what you want. If a piece is in F# major, the clarinets should be written in Ab -- not G#! Cheers, - Darcy Not my choice - the piece in question goes through numerous keys, which the composer chose*. I guess this is what you get for letting Canadians write jazz. ; Carl *Bb, to G, to Cb, to Ab, to G, to Ab, to C. At least the drum part is readable. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Interesting behavior
Darcy James Argue wrote: Should have been Bb and *Eb* instruments, obviously. Cheers, - Darcy Well, except for the Bari player, who is always a little off anyway. ; cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Interesting behavior
Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: And advanced musicians also will understand that a Db and a C# is the same during instructions. The number of sharps and flats shall always be kept as low as possible. Klaus I always teach my private students that, for example, Gb should be played/thought as one natural instead of six flats. It's much easier. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] smallest notebook for Finale?
Ray Horton wrote: That's a nice looking unit, Les! I've made a note of that. Ray Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote: Hey, Ray -- My wife surprised me with an ASUS Eee 904AH for Christmas last year: http://tinyurl.com/lwps9c Yeah - pretty spiffy. External CD-drive?? cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] smallest notebook for Finale?
Noel Stoutenburg wrote: All in all, though, except for installation, it's really a matter of semantics. From the specs, provided one has an external DVD drive with USB interface so that one can actually load the software, it appears to me that Finale should run reasonably well on the smallest Windows Netbook, although the screen size might make it a bit of a challenge. Simple solution - never use long notes. :) cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Violin Ties
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Re: [Finale] Drum part and multimeasure problem
Dan Tillberg wrote: All, I have been explicitely asked by my drummer to try to keep the drum part down to two pages, which is understandable and should be possible for parts where there might be long periods of slash notation without any cues or other tempo/rhythm markings. Hmmm... I've been talking to the drummers I work with a lot in the past few months, as my personal library has grown quite a lot, and I've also taken over management of a local band, and some of the charts for that band are ... lousy. Handwritten charts, or photocopies of handwritten charts, or really old charts on cheap paper, that sort of thing. And of the drummers I work with, none like the play 8 bars style of drum part. They all consider it a way for lazy copyists and arrangers to get the point across. But they have no problem with my , for instance, putting 8 bars per system, or 12, or even 16, and numbering every 4th measure. It's amazing how much you can fit on a page this way. Using the one bar repeat style is also good, but it's somehow easier for them to see and feel the part that way than seeing blocks like you're describing. It also gives them room to write in stuff that the arranger/copyist might not have considered. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Drum part and multimeasure problem
John Howell wrote: At 1:43 PM -0700 9/13/09, Carl Dershem wrote: And of the drummers I work with, none like the play 8 bars style of drum part. They all consider it a way for lazy copyists and arrangers to get the point across. Hmmm. I did that for years when I was hand copying, and still prefer it when the chart is reasonably straightforward. I'm perfectly capable of writing a complex drum part, but why bother when a decent drummer will play it better than I could write it?!!! Not laziness, just practicality. Of course you need to write an opening feel, either in words or notes. And of course you have to write in any stops, starts, or important fills, but you certainly DON'T need a page black with notes in most cases. (Too many books for Broadway shows ARE black with notes, crammed together and badly copied, and those are NOT an improvement nor do they guarantee better playing!) John It has its advantages, but the drummers I've worked with prefer: ||||//4//||||//8//| in most cases. You don't have to (or really want to) put in too much data, as that just gets in the way of the drummer doing what he knows best anyway, but: | --- 8 BARS TIME --- | is too minimal for a lot of drummers. When I was playing (and studying) with Louie Bellson, we talked about it a little bit, and he liked to pencil in things - kicks, feel, etc., where he felt they'd work, but where the arranger had just left space for time. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?
Blake Richardson wrote: On 22 Aug 2009 at 12:19, David Fenton wrote: What you get from New Yorkers is no nonsense, no chitchat, no false courtesy. As well as an amazing variety of profanity mixed in for good measure. Everyone needs a hobby. :) cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Comparing notation systems
Daniel Wolf wrote: I just found this PDF from 2005 comparing six programs; the Finale output is embarassingly bad, but — unfortunately — a typical example of how badly Finale has represented its product: http://home.earthlink.net/~jfalbano/archive/Six%20Music%20Notation%20Programs.pdf It looks like they used untouched default settings for all of them. It might be interesting to compare this with more polished output. That is really where the money lies. I know I'd never turn over anything printed from default settings to anyone. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Comparing notation systems
Lawrence Yates wrote: Ever since I joined this list there have been constant references to Finale's default output being substandard and needing tweaks. Would anyone be prepared to list all those necessary tweaks so that those of us who are less experienced might have a chance of producing output which will not be laughed at. I know that one member of this list used to have such information on a website, but that this has since been withdrawn. (I appreciate that some aspects will be personal preference, but a list of suggested parameters might be useful.) A lot of the Finale work I do is copying in hand-written parts and then taking that to produce acceptable printed parts, all for jazz bands (Big Bands). One of the most important things I tweak is the line feeds. When possible, I try to get one idea per line, which sometimes fits within the 4 measures per system LA standard, and sometimes doesn't. The next is page turns. The next is getting repeated sections to stay on the same page, whenever possible. If you can get these factors taken care of, and still not leave the lines too crowded or too sparse, the players will thank you for it. I don't know if the program can do this - ideas are still beyond the scope of programs. Other things, like getting the bar lines to align on rhythm parts (where 4 measures/system makes good sense most of the time), also helps. Why bar lines don't align to grid is a mystery, (though that might have changed since FinWin2k4), but trying to emulate the professional parts you've played (the good ones) can make a big difference. Remember: The trick is to reduce the probability of errors when reading. Keep it simple, clear and obvious. At least, that's what works for me. Anybody else? cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Technical question
Okay - I'm doing a chart, and the composer/arranger has put a thing in that I've occasionally seen before, but never knew a name for, and I'm not sure how to best mark it. On the and of 2, there's an eighth note, which falls off, and then rises again to hit with a hard attack on the 1 of the measure after the next. so: /^..||^ How to join the tweo ^ markings with a jagged glissando type smear in a U shape, with no notes in the intervening spaces, and not make it a V shape? Is a puzzlement. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] (no subject)
Chuck Israels wrote: On Jul 4, 2009, at 2:09 PM, shirling neueweise wrote: Look up Staff Lists in the manual. actually i think he need to look up optimization... or the layout tool. Hi jef, Maybe so, but I thought he was simply talking about screen space while working in Finale, not the final look on the page. I may have misinterpreted the question. Chuck Definitely what it sounded like to me. Can u hide staves from the display to save screen space cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] What's a Mike Fisher?
Blake Richardson wrote: I'm transcribing John Williams' handwritten score to Jurassic Park and I've come across something I've never seen before. One of the cues (originally titled Preparing to Meet the Monster and titled Eye to Eye on the soundtrack album) has four percussion lines. Three are notated simply Percussion and the fourth is notated Mike Fisher. I assume that it's some kind of rarely used percussion instrument named after the guy who invented it, like the mark tree, which was named after its inventor, Mark Stevens. I did a Google search on Mike Fisher and musical instrument and the only thing I came up with that's even close is a guy named Mike Fisher who specializes in electronic/synthesizer music, which doesn't exactly seem to fit in this context. The actual music written for Mike Fisher looks like something that would be typical of a bongo drum line and the composer has notated jungle feel beneath the staff, so I'm guessing it's some kind of drum but I'm at a loss as what exactly it's supposed to be. (The recording isn't much help, either, because there are a lot of different drums and other percussion playing at that point and I can't tell one from the other.) I suppose it doesn't really matter in terms of transcribing the score. I can notate it just as it's written but my curiosity is bothering me. So basically my question is, has anyone out there heard of a percussion instrument called Mike Fisher? Mike is a studio musician and percussionist. His facebook page is at http://www.facebook.com/pages/Michael-G-Fisher/80094339588 , which means you can send him a message and ask precisely what he did on the soundtrack of that film. He does a lot of movie work, and is one of those guys that is asked for by name, because his 'touch' is exactly what a composer wants. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord notation
John Spicknall wrote: I know from [non-jazz] friends on this list there is perhaps info about entering chord notation here that is conventional jazz notation--the kind of notation one might find in an Aebersold play-a-long booklet. My use of Finale is generally limited to jazz lead sheets, transcriptions, stuff for students, non-complex compositions and arrangements. I'd like to be able to indicate major chords with a triangle, major minor 7th chords with a a triangle atop a straight line, a major 6/9 chord with the 6 and 9 in vertical alignment, a half-diminished 7th chord indicated by a circle with slanted line through it, etc. I am still back in the stone-age use version 2003 or so. Help! It's just a matter of patience. Lots and lots of patience. Click on the Chord tool. On the pull-down menu, select Manual Input. Right-Click on the handle of the Chord you want to change. (In Windows - I'm not sure what the mac equivalent is). Select Edit Chord Definition. In the Chord Definition dialog box, click on the Edit button at the bottom. This brings up the Chord Suffix Editor. Enter each symbol you want to use for your Chord Definition in the box at the upper right, then adjust the positioning and font and all that jazz, then click on the NEXT button to go on. When satisfied, click OK. A triangle over a straight line is easy to mistake in the usually bad light on a bandstand. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced
Eric Dannewitz wrote: Not necessarily..For example, when I am writing out something, I frequently go through and block out chords, then go back and do the duration. And speedy also lets me play or even keep sounding the chord before and lets me play/mess around with different voicings before putting them into the score. And that's the model that works for you. When transcribing tunes, I generally map the rhythm, and approximate pitch (up or down), and then go back and fine tune the pitches. But when arranging I block the chords and then voice them according to instrumentation. And I'm sure others have other methods for doing what they do. The advantage of a flexible program is that we can all use what works best for us without too many hiccups. Finale is flexible enough to allow that, and that is why I continue to use it despite the fact that the company seems to have its head up its...yeah Agreed. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] hiding rests
Barbara Touburg wrote: Lee Actor wrote: Phil Daley wrote: I have a score that I hid rests in a long time ago and I have forgotten how to do it. Can someone help me? Oh, is it possible to move rests vertically? Thanks, Phil Yes, it's possible to move rests vertically -- click and drag them to where you want them to be. Hide notes/rests with the o (letter o, not zero) and if they're already hidden, hit the o key again to unhide them. -- David H. Bailey You can also hide/unhide notes and rests with the H key. Seems more intuitive to me than O. Hahaha, O associates with Onzichtbaar (invisible in Dutch). And here I'd always thought it was for obscure which the instructions could be considered. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Brass mute playback in Finale 2007?
Dan Tillberg wrote: I have tried to look in the user's manual but haven't found anything about how Finale can be configured to play back brass muted. I notice that when I enter the word straight as a text expression, Finale automatically plays back with a muted trumpet (although it sounds to me more like harmon than straight mute but that's another story...). So far, so good. However, the same does not happen for cup, bucket or harmon, not even when combining these words with mute. How does this work? I understand this has something to do with HP, for which I use the style type Jazz - I note that when setting for example None then the automatic muting of trumpets does not occur. So the recognition of the word straight seems to be built-in to the jazz HP style. But when looking at the Human Playback Dictionary in the manual this word is not mentioned at all. And, as far as I can see, no idea on how to control this... If this is well described in the manual I would be happy just for an idea what to look for. Thanks /D You have to modify the expression definition. Alas, the only muted trumpet sound they have is a harmon mute. There might be better in the Garritan libraries, but that's not available in 2K7. To modify the expression definition properly, you go into the text Expression Designed (right-click on the expression, then choose 'edit expression definition), then click on the Playback tab and choose Patch from the type of expression and then choose Muted Trumpet from the patch list. Don't forget to reverse this when you enter the OPEN expression when you take the mute out. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Brass mute playback in Finale 2007?
Dan Tillberg wrote: OK, thanks. So I gathered. But what about the automagic recognition of the word straight? Is that documented? Is it configurable? Is it extendable? /D Automatic? Whaddya think this is, a computer or something? Oh. Nope - it's just a setting you have to configure yourself. If you set it once in your default template it will always work, but it has to be set up before it'll work. Just set it under all of your mutes (they'll all sound a like, but...) and remember not to use those for your trombones and it'll be fine. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Transitioning...
Allen Fisher wrote: Hello List-- Since I have a bit of a different relationship with you all, I figured I should let you know that I am leaving MakeMusic. Before anyone panics, it has nothing to do with the health or the direction of the company, I was presented with an opportunity that I cannot pass on. As a continuing Finale user, I will continue participating on the list, just know that I won't be down the hall from the developers anymore. Best Regards, Allen Allen Fisher Founder and Principal Developer Fisher Art and Technology al...@fisherartandtech.com i...@fisherartandtech.com Well, good luck with the art (which from your 'sig appears to be your direction) and have much fun and success! cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Is there life out there
Eric Dannewitz wrote: But.butwhat about the T-Shirts??? The last thing I got from MakeMusic to upgrade featured a sporty Finale T-Shirtenough to entice anyone right? Ah - but the ne pas ultra version will include a tailored polo shirt with your name above the Finale logo. :) On Feb 21, 2009, at 12:28 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 21.02.2009 Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I never really attained that level of usage, but I do feel your pain. But the rest of the world is still in absentia. Perhaps there is a Fin User convention taking place, or maybe all of the bugs have now been found out and positively altered. Hmmm Oh, you must have missed it. There is now Finale-non-plus-ultra. It's a free upgrade to all previous Finale versions. It fixes every single bug, and has altered the interface in such a way that everything is where it belongs. There simply are no more questions, problems, quirks, tweaks. You can do whatever you desire, and it is completely obvious how it is done. The only downside of this development is that this list will die. There simply is no reason for it to exist any longer. Johannes PS: Next year's upgrade, free of course, will be Finale-plus-ultra. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Canto ergo sum Dean M. Estabrook http://deanestabrook.googlepages.com/home ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] chord alterations
trumpe...@verizon.net wrote: I'm using Finale 2007 with Windows XP Pro. When I Type into Score from the chord menu C7(#5b9), it types C7(#5B9), a B, not a flat even after I hit the spacebar, AND it prints that way. The fonts are set on Chord Symbol---Jazz Text 22 Plain, Chord Suffix--Jazz Text 14 Plain, Chord Alteration---Jazz 24 Plain. If I try to create a suffix that would be 7(#5b9) in the chord suffix editor box, it recognizes only 7 or only ( and I don't see a separate box for creating chord alterations or altered upper extensions like b9or #11 It's somewhat complex, but really not difficult. Enter the chord. If it is not already in your chord library, it will ask do you want to create? This also applies to editing present alterations. In teh Chord Suffix Editor, you enter the ( or the flat or whatever in the SYMBOL box, and then you can set the font on each specific element using the PREVIOUS and NEXT buttons and the SET FONT button. For example, you get the FLAT symbol by typing 'b' in SYMBOL, and then setting the font to JAZZ or MAESTRO on that specific symbol. It will usually work. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Splash screen
Phil Daley wrote: At 2/12/2009 05:28 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 12 Feb 2009 at 17:12, dhbailey wrote: Blake Richardson wrote: Actually it was original at the Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center) and Apple stole it from them and then Microsoft stole it from Apple No, Apple *licensed* it from Xerox. That's why Xerox never sued Apple. They were paid for letting Apple use their design. Unlike what Microsoft did. I apologize -- I've been misinformed all these years. Did Xerox sue Microsoft? I had always heard it was Apple who sued Microsoft. Xerox had no standing, because what MS copied without permission was the Apple Lisa. I thought Microsoft's defense was that Apple stole it from Xerox to begin with? It was part of their excuse, but falls apart if you look at what actually happened. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Splash screen
dhbailey wrote: John Howell wrote: At 12:44 AM +0100 2/11/09, Barbara Touburg wrote: dhbailey wrote: At least that's what's happened with other programs I've used which allow the user to turn off the splash screen -- I just look at the desktop for longer before the program actually starts. I usually look at my monitor! :) (Don't like Window$ that much) If I remember correctly, the desktop concept or analogy (which is clearly what David meant) was original with Apple, and was stolen by Microsoft, which unaccountably won the subsequent lawsuit. So by the time Windoze came along that was all ancient history. John Actually it was original at the Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center) and Apple stole it from them and then Microsoft stole it from Apple, which brings up the age-old morality question -- can someone steal from a thief? :-) Actually Apple had permission to use the ideas. Jobs had spent time with the people tat Xerox PARC and worked out an agreement. Gates then saw what Jobs was up to ant stole the concept. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Playback 2nd time only
dhbailey wrote: Brian Williams wrote: I see the Play Only on Pass checkbox in the Playback tab of the Expression designer, but I don't know what to set in the Type popup. I've tried setting it to None, changing the channel to an unused one on the pass I don't want it to play, and setting the channel pressure and key velocity to zero. Nothing works. How can something so supposedly simple be so difficult? Here's the process: 1) create an expression 2nd Time Only 2) in the playback panel of the dialog check the Play on Pass and set it to 1 (this is contrary to what you would expect) 3) in the Type panel, select Key Velocity, and set value to 0 4) click OK to close the creation dialog, then assign that to the first note of the section you want to be heard only 2nd time 5) repeat the process, only create another expression called something like Reset Volume and set the text type to be Hidden (so it won't print) 6) in the playback panel, check Play on Pass and set it to 2 7) in the Type panel, select Key Velocity and set the value to match whatever the volume level should be as set by the most recent dynamic marking. 8) both of these expressions should be placed in the music at the same point, the first note of the repeated process. I just ran through these steps in Finale2008 and they still work just like they've always worked. Thanks! It sounds unduly complex, but if it works should be useful. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: PREMIERES of NEW MUSIC for BIG BAND
Eric wrote: Hi all, I thought I’d let you know that three new commissioned works for big band (all done in Finale :) will be premiered in the span of two weeks (that’s a first for me!) If you’d like to hear any of the performances, here are the specifics: Congratulations! It sounds like you've got some great bands on tap. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT - Original instrumentation of ROAR OF THE GREASEPAINT
Christopher Smith wrote: On Jan 24, 2009, at 6:38 PM, Howey, Henry wrote: I was a member of The American Wind Symphony many years ago. One of the tunes we did was (I thought) the original instrumentation for Newly's Broadway show, but I am not sure. It was exciting as it was only winds and percussion. Can anyone confirm or refute this for me? The original UK production, Aug 3, 1964, used the following orchestration: Violin 1 2; Cello; Bass; Reed 1, 2 3, 4 5; Horn 1 2; Trumpet 1 2; Trombone; Percussion; Guitar 1 2; Harp; Piano As you see, it had strings and not a LOT of brass. What you had might have been a touring orchestration for someone (maybe Newly) doing a concert show, rather than a staged book musical. (this is only a guess!) Christopher Not super unusual for a pit orchestra. The Harp, guitars, and last 2 reeds are slightly different, but not a lot. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT trombones in Beethoven
Christopher Smith wrote: On Jan 23, 2009, at 12:10 AM, Ray Horton wrote: Regarding the falset notes, which you call Privileged frequencies ... unstable ... and imply that A very high level of expertise is needed for them: I teach them to junior high students, so when they purchase a trombone with a valve they are already used to the range below the staff. Yes, anyone can force any note on any brass instrument, pretty much, but these falset notes are more than that - they a specific partial on their own, which, particularly on small bore trombones. can center in quite well with practice, and are not in the least bit difficult. Yes, I can concur. Even on my bass trombone, I can produce a tone from Eb to B WITHOUT the valve almost equal in quality to the tone I get WITH the valve. Certainly a Mozart fortissimo will make it, but not Wagner. (I don't do it, though, except as an exercise! It's possible and not too difficult, that's all. I would say the Beethoven 5th high C and high F are much riskier.) Christopher It's always possible, but I do my best to avoid it. Then again, you never know when you're going to get a call to play 2nd trombone in a big band, bring a small bore tenor, and discover there was a booking error and you're playing 4th(bass) bone. It's a skill that must be learned. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Question for the pros
I work with a youth band, and we are having a fairly big concert soon as a fund raiser. One of the several Guest Artists that will be performing with us is a local celebrity of a sort, and performs regularly with small combos around town, and has written several tunes that he does with combos. He asked the director of our group (the guy who does all of the booking) if we would be able to do one of his tunes, and the director said sure then the next day asked me if I could do an arrangement. So I have 5 days to do a complete big band chart with only a sparse lead sheet. What would you charge to do such a thing? (The fun part is that now we hear that Sammy might be at the concert, which really raises my personal tension levels. Add in a lack of time to work (I play almost every night) and I'm going nuts here.) TIA, Carl -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Play back 2nd time only
Brian Williams wrote: How do I set an expression or repeat text to make Finale *not* play a passage on a specific staff the first pass but do play it on the 2nd pass of a repeat? Does this require some convoluted work-around? When you define the expression, under the PLAYBACK tab, there is a box for play only on pass __ designed to do that. Of course, it has never worked for me, but it is supposed to. :) cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Chord identification
Ray Horton wrote: Christopher Smith wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Adam Golding wrote: Incidentally, if you want an F#m triad with a D added, you would call it F#m(b6) in the most standard system. This is the second chord in the James Bond main theme, in case anyone thinks it is too far out to consider in popular music. And that Bond, James Bond harmonic pattern goes back to Harold Arlen, if not earlier. Harold was a spy? ; cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] laser printer
James Gilbert wrote: I'll echo the recommendation on the Ricoh AP610N. For the price, it's not bad. There are better printers out there. I've had it less than a year, but it does quite fine. It prints 11x17 and similar metric sizes. I never tried envelopes until now but it is doable via the bypass tray and setting the paper size via the printer's menu. I do prefer the way an inkjet printer handles envelopes better than the Ricoh. James Gilbert www.jamesgilbertmusic.com How about consumables? Is the toner expensive? How long will a cartridge last? Does it have an OFF button? (So many don't any more) cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Notation readability research?
Richard Smith wrote: I have never understood the use of the jazz fonts. When I was a hand copyist, the goal was to look as much like printed music as possible. I do find most of the jazz fonts very readable and understand that there may be some psychological advantage for jazz musicians. I'm not sure it matters in commercial music. Ah. Something I can comment with some experience and intelligence on. The jazz font is darker, making it easier to read in poor lighting conditions. I find it MUCH easier to see on a badly lit bandstand than the maestro font. That said, it is by no means ideal, but for the price, better for me. There are other, better commercial fonts out there, but they are beyond my meagre means. :( cd ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Notation readability research? Now jazz font natural complaint
Darcy James Argue wrote: You should *never* use just M or m for chord symbols, regardless of the font. I know Christopher disagrees, but I prefer either the geometric symbols (? and -), or MA and mi. I believe Christopher uses Cmaj7 (which is okay, though I *greatly* prefer CMA7) and Cm7 (which is fine so long as you're not also using CM7 in the same chart). Chord symbols like CM7 are, IMO, entirely unacceptable under any circumstances. Cheers, - Darcy For clarity, I prefer Maj for Major and - for minor. it's very difficult to confuse the two (except for that one guy, and we all know someone like him). cd ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Expression Tool question
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: When I want to assign an expression, say, a rit. to all staves, I properly get handles on them all. Now, if I want to adjust one or two of those expressions, is there any way to move them one at a time rather than when one is selected, all are selected and ergo, all are adjusted simultaneously. This happens to be a large Band Score, and, naturally, some of the expressions are in the way of, say, a Picc. part. There must be a way, but I've not found it yet. Thanks in advance, Dean In expression assignment (I think) there's a check box for individual positioning. I rough out the placement, then go back, check individual positioning, then fine tune. cd ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Avoiding long parts (e. g. for rhythm section)
Dan Tillberg wrote: Hi folks, When arranging for big band, there might be for instance three separate long choruses which essentially repeats in piano and guitar since the rely on the same chord pattern even though the horns have three totally different designed choruses. In the score, pi/gui are repeated for easy score reading, and it is of course easy to achieve this with copy/paste tools. But the parts get of course very long, and especially in the piano part where I have suggested voicings for both hands. For the horns this is rarely a problem since multimeasure rests shorten the parts. Anyone having any good advice on how to shorten e. g. a piano part with these characteristics? I am not even sure how I want it to look...so first I might need some advice what is typical and then what Finale can do in this area. But essentially I guess I could use some method like giving information to the pianist in letters G, H, I that chords and voicing suggestions are as in C, D, E. Now pianoplayers might not have a big problem with turning pages, however drummers certainly do not like to have parts with more than 2 or max 3 pages - fully understandable. So also here I hope there is some standard for how to say that B is latin 16 bars and no cues, C is latin 24 bars and no cues etc. I know that this is fairly general question. But I hope there is some article or similar about this that someone can point out...? Thanks /D This isn't something you can handle by using repeats and/or DS markings? I often have pieces given to me to copy/engrave that have open solo sections with different background parts, and I generally handle them by just having repeats around them, and over the affected parts putting specific instructions. As an example, I might have a section that repeats three times, and will put 3X at the beginning of all the repeats, BG 2d X on the sax parts, and BG 3d X on the brass section parts, leaving the rhythm section only one repeat. For the drums (where the kicks follow the backgrounds) I might put the 2d repeat on the top line and the 3d repeat on the bottom line, with appropriate notes in the drum part. But if I have a section that repeats pretty much note-for-note, a DS might work. That said, there are always Bob Florence and Rob McConnell parts, which can be up to 8 or 9 pages in the horns, and longer in the rhythm section. Then you just suffer and cross your fingers, and write the parts so that page turns are as efficient and logical as possible. Good luck! cd ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Latin percussion?
I recently got a few latin tunes to print parts for, and I;'m wondering what patches sound best for Timbales and Bongos. Using WinFin 2K4. cd ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Scanning facsimiles
dc wrote: Johannes Gebauer écrit: I want to clean up some facsimile copies I have of old music prints. Ideally I'd like to scan them into Acrobat, then apply some filters, and edit them slightly with an eraser. Ideally everything should be done in the PDF format, to keep small file sizes and multi-page options. Does anyone know of appropriate Mac softwar for this purpose? Has anyone got experience with this? There are plug-ins for Acrobat that can do this (straighten a page, erase unwanted things, recenter, etc.). The problem is that they are rather expensive. All depends on how much use you get out of them. The hard way is to scan to Acrobat, then save as a graphic format you can edit, edit the pages that need editing, and then select them all and make a new PDF. I prefer to scan to Acrobat, even if I want to extract graphic files. It's the most convenient format for storing stuff. Dennis I generally prefer to do it the other way 'round - scan to .TIF or .PCX, clean up, then 'print' to .PDF. It removes a couple of steps, and is a touch easier. Of course, doing that depends a lot on what graphics software you have. cd ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale Documentation Review
Giz Bowe wrote: At 11:14 AM 8/25/2008, you wrote: I encourage any comments you have, but especially appreciate a description of your most negative experiences with the Finale help resources and perhaps any ideas regarding its improvement. I don't like having to use Internet Explorer to access help. In fact, I don't like to go online at all for help. Absolutely. If it must be online, there should be a direct Index link from the Finale help menu Agreed. I liked the alphabetical guide/link in the index when it was actually in the program. Very useful, that. I would LOVE a printed manual - for $100 an upgrade, that should be included. It should at least be available. cd ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] [OT] tech help
My brother just bought a new PC with Windows Vista on it, and wonders how to transfer his Outlook address book and bookmarks to it. Do any of you with less obsolete technical skills than I have any hints? TIA Carl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan on AMD
Chris Bell wrote: On Aug 10, 2008, at 9:57 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: In fact, I think anyone would be hard-pressed to complain about the instrument selection for JABB -- it is amazingly comprehensive. They actually have MORE instruments than they list on the product page: . . . . I really don't see how anyone could have serious issues with that selection of instruments. I for one would love to have a kitchen sink sample as well. / Cb Bass or treble? With or without the disposal mute? cd ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan on AMD
Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Craig, The range is realistic -- jazz tenor trombone players almost never have an F attachment. I am sure the players they sampled for the JABB trombones did not have an F attachment on their horn. Hm. About half of the ones I work with (and have worked with in the past 30 years) have. cd ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] (OT) Ancient History (was Jazz Notation Standards)
Andrew Stiller wrote: On Aug 2, 2008, at 3:45 PM, John Howell wrote: BST ... debuted in November '67, reformed in their best-known configuration with David Clayton-Thomas in '69, and have bumbled along to the present day like so many other bands, with constant changes in personnel and concept. The 1976 _Encyclopedia of Rock_ is not kind. It says, in part, Commercial success grew by leaps and bounds, as did charges of pretentiousness. By 1970, most of the group's original audience was gone, replaced by the sort of man who picks his mood music by scanning the _Playboy_ Jazz and Pop poll. It does, though, give them credit for being one of the first rock bands with a full horn section, and therefore one of the most influential groups ever. One of the original thinks that Kooper did when he built the original BST was to have a rhythm section made up of rockers, with a horn section made up of jazz players. That added significantly to the unique sound of the band. But bands with horn sections were nothing new even then - it was just that *successful* bands with horn sections were rare. BST, Chicago, and the Tower of Power all came from about the same time, all from different directions, and all from backgrounds with a rich heritage in horn bands. Yah, BST got very commercial, but not as commercial as Chicago. They also changed over the entire band several times, not usually for the better. Just goes to show what happens when you lose sight of the original goals, IMO. cd ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Jazz Notation Standards...what's correct?
John Howell wrote: The two bands I'm thinking of were, of course, Blood, Sweat and Tears and the original Chicago Transit Authority. Well, those bands are actually products of the late 60's, but I see where you're coming from. That said, I look at doubles as obstructions to clarity. Yeah, I read them when necessary, but because the vast majority of musicians I've worked with don't have a lot of practice with them (and some of those have been very good, but most have been jazz players), and because I've long kept to the ideal of Keep it simple, I tend to re-spell double sharps and flats as their chromatic equivalent in the key in question. Theoreticians can quibble all they want, but I'll stick with practical use. cd ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2009 rumors - now survey
Ray Horton wrote: Christopher Smith wrote: Thanks, man! I took the survey. Anything to save the cost of upgrading yet again. One of the questions asked, Where do you go for technical support? One of the possible answers was the user manual (snicker), but notably missing was The Finale Listserve. Don't they know where their power users are? Exactly. I tried to skip that question, since this list is pretty much the only place I get significant help, but the survey wouldn't let me. I ultimately selected Friends (I hope that includes everyone here, even David W.!). I was going to post the link to the survey yesterday (when I received the invitation) for everyone here, but since the survey had crawled and crashed on me a couple of times I decided it best not to share. Today was much better. It also crashed on me when I took it, and it never finished. I doubt it'd be worth the effort to try again, considering how little they seem to have put into making it work. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Bob Florence Tribute Memorial concert event
Kim Richmond wrote: Dear Listers, This is to let you know about the Memorial Tribute concert to celebrate the life of the late composer/pianist Bob Florence. WHAT: Bob Florence Tribute Memorial concert WHEN: Sunday, June 15 (Fathers' Day), 2008, 1 PM to 5 PM. WHERE: CATALINAS Bar Grill, 6725 WEST SUNSET BLVD, Hollywood, CA. telephone 323-466-2210 WHO: The Bob Florence Limited Edition big band, playing compositions and arrangements by Bob Florence; the Phil Norman Tentet playing music by Bob; a multi-media event about Bob's life by his daughter Melanie, and various speakers. All are invited. Parking in the adjoining garage. Thanks, Kim. I have a gig that day, and can't be there, but please carry my thoughts with you for Bob and his family and friends. Carl -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fwd: Bob Florence
John Blane wrote: Sorry to pass this on but I'm sure many of you would want to know. Begin forwarded message: From: ALEX ILES [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 15, 2008 6:51:24 PM CDT Subject: [Trombone-l] Bob Florence I am very sad to report the passing of pianist, composer, arranger and bandleader Bob Florence. He died this afternoon after a long illness. He was a brilliant and dedicated musician who never stopped searching for ways to express emotions through music. Those who knew him and his music have lost a great friend. Best wishes, Alex Iles Well. damn. Bob was a nice man and a fine musician. I'll miss him. Carl -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] I'm back!
Andrew Stiller wrote: This is to let everybody know I'm back on the list. I had a heart transplant on 11/14/07, and recovery has been long and difficult. Welcome back, and I hope you're feeling at least somewhat better, and continue to improve! cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Percussion Diagrams
Adam Golding wrote: I've never written music for solo percussionist before--do you guys do percussion diagrams in Finale? is there a resource i can look to for advice on how to do this? Step 1: Talk to a good percussionist. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] what does a copyist do? now scordatura
John Howell wrote: OK, to ask something seriously, did you have any trouble learning to adjust your slide positions when you had to pull your F slide to E? To E?? I've played on horns that allowed you to switch it to G, but ... what possible benefit would you getb from tuning to E? cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] work time
Robert Florence wrote: For jazz writers, I have a 300 bar score for 5 trumpets, 5 trombones, 6 woodwinds and piano, bass, guitar and drums. Much of the piano is written out. How long would it take you to complete this task? This is only for a score. I'll get into part hell later. Thanks, Bob Florence About 15-20 hours, depending on the complexity of the parts. If the saxes have a lot of 16th note runs or independence it could push it up a bit. The more similarity between the parts in a section, the faster it goes. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New expressions
Christopher Smith wrote: On Feb 3, 2008, at 12:23 AM, Carl Dershem wrote: I've been working with a youth band for a coupe of years now, and have come up with a few expressions that, if they don't necessarily exist in print yet, probably should. Of course, expressions are usually in Italian. Perhaps some of you have others of your own you could add to the list: 1. Sempre Prosciutto = play with too much expression. 2. Con Brie = play it very cheesy. 3. Schwarzando = play it funky. I don't think I would use numbers 1 and 3 in my college with its large Italian and Caribbean student numbers, as they are certainly on the border of being racist and that would be pointed out to me in no uncertain terms. Besides, the Schwartzando is already known around here as being a favourite lick of local guitar god Gary Schwartz. However, I have used in the past: How is Ham it up racist? cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] New expressions
I've been working with a youth band for a coupe of years now, and have come up with a few expressions that, if they don't necessarily exist in print yet, probably should. Of course, expressions are usually in Italian. Perhaps some of you have others of your own you could add to the list: 1. Sempre Prosciutto = play with too much expression. 2. Con Brie = play it very cheesy. 3. Schwarzando = play it funky. Apologies to those who do not have English as their primary language, and might not get these awful puns. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Pen tablets
Pierre Bailleul wrote: Hi all, Do you think it's easy and practical to use a tablet pen with finale? - Instead of a mouse? - or with a mouse? Thanks for your responses. Pierre. (Wacom intuos or another one?) I have a Wacom tablet, but really don't find it any more convenient to use than my mouse, and it takes up more desktop space. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] A little help, please
Horace Brock wrote: I'm working in Fin2k8 for Windows. How do I put in the scoop up to the first note of A String of Pearls (as performed by the Glenn Miller Orchestra, music by Jerry Gray)? It's an articulation. In the Jazz preset, #68 works well for me. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Saving Data
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: How does the Flash Drive stack up as an option for backing up files? Dean I got a 4GB flash drive for christmas last year and backup all of my essential data on it. So far there's been no degradation. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Performance notes - text notation excerpts
Chuck Israels wrote: Collective wise ones: What is the best way to create a page of performance notes that includes text instructions and small (one measure) musical excerpts? Can a word processing document (formatted with musical inserts) be dropped into a Finale page in toto? I have not had to do this before and am looking for advice. TIA Chuck Not claiming exceptional (or much) wisdom here, but the last time I had to do anything like this (a book for my students) I did a lot of Saving as PDF and Editing with Illustrator. While I can imagine a few tricks to use within Finale (selective use and spacing of systems on the page in question, and lots of text), I'm not sure how ... efficient that would be. Luck! cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Dotted notes preferences?
Leigh Daniels wrote: Just curious: do the dotted versions scan better than the tied versions? I get requests from players to replace dots with ties. **Leigh Depends on what you're used to, and how much practice you have at both/either. I prefer dots myself, but some people don't see them often enough to be comfortable with them. cd On Sat, Dec 22, 2007, Lee Actor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quarter-dotted eighth scans much better than dotted quarter-sixteenth. The second case is not quite so clear-cut, but I still think half-dotted quarter is preferable (I assume these are 4/4 meter). -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Premieres
dhbailey wrote: Ray Horton wrote: Here is a puff piece in the Louisville rag. Don't believe everything you read: http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/2007/COLUMNISTS06/70506 Nice piece, Ray! I don't believe everything I read in the newspapers, but that article just confirms the impression I get from your various postings to the groups we both inhabit, and I think it's terrific that a newspaper would take that much interest in a local musician outside New York or Boston or Chicago. Congratulations! Now get back to work! ;-) Yep. An excellent article. And from what I've heard through other sources, a well-deserved one. I just find it interesting that you look like I'd pictured you in my head, and that *never* happens! :) Keep up the good work. Carl -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Guido OT
Leigh Daniels wrote: Because it's the National Post, I'll bet the producer of the note is well-known Canadian trumpeter Guido Basso. **Leigh On Fri, Nov 9, 2007, Margaret whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Twice in recent weeks one of the clues in The National Post (Canada) crossword puzzle has been -- Guido's highest note. In my ignorance I assumed that he was an opera singer that I'd never heard of. I'm sure that John Howell and some others must know the answer! thanks, Margaret Whitby Basso is better known as a flugelhorn player, and is a master. But high notes? Not really his thing. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Notation programs
I was talking to a guy at a rehearsal tonight, and he was asking about *affordable* notation programs. What would you recommend for a good, but not wealthy, musician who was not intending to be an arranger or engraver? TIA, Carl -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT Bob Florence?
Eric Dannewitz wrote: Oh wow. Give Bob our wishes for a speedy recovery. Kim Richmond wrote: Bob Florence is badly laid up with a back condition (4 operations, and now a cracked rib), and not reading e-mail at present. If you want his e-mail address, please contact me personally. He does appreciate phone calls, although he may not answer the phone. His number is: 805-373-9088 All the best, KIM R Definitely do so. Bob's a very nice gentleman (old definition of the term), and a hell of a musician. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] My posts
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: My posts to Finale do not seem to be making it to the list anymore ... is anyone out there? Dean Not me. I'm not anywhere any more. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] test
Ray Horton wrote: Since I got my computer running again, I'm not getting much mail on the three lists with which I keep up. Has mail here been particularly light? Raymond Horton Yeah, pretty much. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] temporarily unsubscribing
Andrew Stiller wrote: Hi, My husband, Andrew Stiller, is in the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania again with heart trouble. So many hospitalizations this year that I can't quite remember, 3 or 4. He wants me to temporarily suspend his Finale E mail. I thought I remembered his password, but it seems I do not. Please temporarily suspend his participation in the list until he returns home. We'll miss him. Please send him our best wishes. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Tempi of dance movements
dc wrote: Barbara Touburg écrit: Is there a place on the net where I can find the correct tempi for various dances? I'm working on a berceuse right now and I would like it to play back at the proper tempo. Well, a berceuse isn't a dance but a lullaby... There may be some overlap. I've played in numerous dance bands where I came close to falling asleep. ; cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music
Guy Hayden wrote: I have found that trumpeters who do not play cornet will insist that there is no difference between the two instruments. OTH, cornetists will insist that a marked difference exists. As both a band and orchestra conductor I do recognize a difference in the sound. Mind you, I grew up (mid-50s) playing in bands with large contingents of both instruments. The comment about Tschaikovsky's use reminds me that Capriccio Italien calls for both cornets and trumpets. For a guest conducting gig a while back I asked for both instruments in Berlioz' orchestration of von Weber's Invitation to the Dance. None of the regular trumpeters owned cornets so auxiliary players were engaged for the parts, causing bit of grumping by the trumpeters! I have heard that Clarke commented that he could not understand why anyone would want to play cornet parts on the trumpet. Maybe he knew something about the different sound from the two? Guy Hayden As a trumpet player, I find the difference between the trumpet and cornet to be very pronounced, though some players do what they can to minimize the differences. A lot can be done with mouthpiece selection to make the difference more or less pronounced, but ideally a cornet should have a warm, round sound, while a trumpet should have a bright, clear sound. Also, as has been said before, trumpets project much better than cornets. When I get a call for a gig that calls for cornet, I bring one, and when I play jazz in small intimate settings I prefer to play cornet, but the vast majority of calls are for trumpet. And flugelhorn is a whole other can of worms. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] RIP Max Roach
Chuck Israels wrote: I had the pleasure of knowing Max. We met sometime around 1957 when his quintet with Clifford Brown played at the Teenage Jazz Club at Storyville in Boston (I was a teenager), then again at the Lenox School of Jazz in 1960. I was with Max in Sandpoint, Idaho on the day he received a MacArthur grant. We enjoyed a celebratory dinner that I remember for the pleasure he took in having received the honor and the sense of generosity he conveyed at the same time. My appreciation of him and his music has grown as my experience grows. I had only a small relationship with Max, but the feeling of personal loss is great. Chuck Though I'm an enormous fan of Clifford and all of his band, I am not old enough to have seen them play live. I envy you. Never got to hear Max Roach or any of the others live, either. :( cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New monitor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like my current monitor is coming to the end of its life, so I have been considering what to get as a replacement. LCD TFT screens seem to be the only option now, but what opinions does the group have on wide-screen versus 4:3 or similar square formats? Does Finale work correctly with wide-screen? I thought I might see a lot more bars when in scroll view, or two pages side by side in page view, but some of the demos I have seen (generally web pages) have square formats stretched to wide-screen, therefore they are completely useless. On the other hand a square shape is probably better for the maximum number of staves visible. Also does anyone have any other factors they think are worth considering when getting a monitor for Finale? I recently went from a 20 CRT (1600x1200) to a 20 widescreen LCD (1680x1050), which I got for a very good price (the 22 at the same resolution was $200 more), and it works very well for Finale (and other programs). The only glitch was getting new drivers for my video card, and that only took a few minutes. I can now display an entire big band score at 75% magnification (very readable) with more measures than I could before, or 3 full up pages of text, or several program windows, and it uses less electricity than before, which is goo during the summer when I need power for the fans. If your drivers are set up well, squares are squares, colors are bright, text is sharp, and you have more desk area. I recommend it. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New monitor
Leigh Daniels wrote: What Carolyn said! I'm also using an Apple 30 Cinema HD display (wide-screen) and it's unbelievably great running at a resolution of 2560 x 1600 (!) on my quad G5. A flat screen this size has been a 30-year dream for me! It's plenty bright, too. I run it at about 60% brightness unless it's very sunny out in the winter. While I'd love to agree with you, a 30 cinema display (along with a Mac and a card to support it) would cost more than my car did. What's worse, a friend of mine has *2* of them on his Mac Pro. I think I'll go throw water balloons at him. ;) cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Goodbye Finale
Bruce Clausen wrote: I've been pondering whether to get the Finale 08 or Sib5. After seeing the remarks of the past few days I believe I will invest in the Sib and see how it goes. I've always used Simple Entry, with mouse and computer keyboard, so the learning curve may not be as steep. I, too, am tired of MM upgrading but not improving. Wish me luck! Bruce Clausen Good luck to you. I haven't upgraded since 2004, mostly because the program does what I need, but partly because all of the negative reviews here have dissuaded me from paying MM for stuff that doesn't work well. I'll probably stick with what I have now, though, rather than trading to a new piece of software. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Prepositions
Robert Patterson wrote: Here is another sentence (not with prepositions) that is completely grammatically correct: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo. There is a wikipedia article with a sentence diagram here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo The short version of parsing it is: [Those] (Buffalo buffalo) [that] (Buffalo buffalo buffalo) buffalo (Buffalo buffalo). I think you're just trying to buffalo us. :) cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Prepositions
Aaron Rabushka wrote: Can we take the Buffalo gals instead? Not sure. But at least we can ask if they can come out tonight. Robert Patterson wrote: Here is another sentence (not with prepositions) that is completely grammatically correct: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo. There is a wikipedia article with a sentence diagram here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo The short version of parsing it is: [Those] (Buffalo buffalo) [that] (Buffalo buffalo buffalo) buffalo (Buffalo buffalo). I think you're just trying to buffalo us. :) -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Prepositions
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Well, Buffalo is generally meant to imply running one by some one; putting one over on; confounding one ... etc. Actually, my dictionary offers: verb ( -loes, -loed) [ trans. ] (often be buffaloed) informal overawe or intimidate (someone) : she didn't like being buffaloed. • baffle (someone) : the problem has buffaloed the advertising staff. Dean So if one is successfully buffaloed, you could say one has 'been had'? (just to keep the thread). :) cd On Jul 22, 2007, at 2:39 PM, keith helgesen wrote: What about eleven times had? I remember this from high school- (Yes- 60 years ago!) Two boys, John and James wrote an essay; John, where James had had 'had', had had 'had had'. Had had had had the teachers approval. Bizarre language we use, eh? BTW- I, not being from US and therefore not really familiar with the verb 'to buffalo' meaning (I think!) to thwart, found the buffalo sentence very odd. (World record for most prepositions at the end of a sentence, from a child protesting an Australian bedtime story: Mommy, what did you bring that book that I didn't want to be read to out of about Down Under up for?) A preposition poem: I lost a little preposition. It fell somewhere beneath my chair. I called aloud to it perdition, Come on up out from down under there. My daughter brought it to her 3rd grade class, and was asked, for fun, to diagram the whole thing. David Froom Dean M. Estabrook http://deanestabrook.googlepages.com/home -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: missing image
Andrew Stiller wrote: Use your graphics editor to resize the picture to, say, 1/8th its present size (i.e., 1/2 your screen size). This is done through a process of resampling that will not reduce the quality of the image. No joy. I reduced the image to 12% of original size (208 Kb), but it still won't show up in Claris HomePage. Claris, eh? Does that have format restrictions? cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Piano - connect stems between staves?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can get the notes in both staves, but I can't find anything on showing them with their stems connected between the staves. Thanks, Frank Look up Cross-staff beams cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Semi-OT: Attachments are back in my posts
Williams, Jim wrote: Now they're back...HEPPP! Are you using Outlook? It formats messages that way. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New Question
Rob Deemer wrote: The request for new topics plus the fact that there's a Mythbusters marathon going on got me thinking about confirming or busting a notation myth. I've heard many composers state that composing/arranging on paper with pencil is not only preferable but artistically better than composing directly into a computer notation application. What are your thoughts? Discuss. -Rob Better for who? When I arrange (I'm a terrible composer, and so never do that), I rough sketch the ideas out on paper, then go to Finale to flesh them out. When writing stories or articles, I just go straight to the keyboard (unless I can't). When doing art, I sketch on paper, then scan and finish in Painter (R). But what works for me might not work for you. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] way off topic
Christopher Smith wrote: On 20.06.2007 Bob Florence wrote: Do you all know the term underscore as used on a computer keyboard. I do. However, a friend told me he always had trouble using this one. It's shift dash_. I want to use this in my e mail address. Heh, heh, I think I know why he wants to do this. He wants an email that is read like this I underscore movies at warnerbrothers dot com or something similar. I already thought of that one... 8-) Christopher Hmmm... in that case, would 'underscore' be defined as 'writing sparse music for'? :) cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] way off topic
Christopher Smith wrote: On Jun 20, 2007, at 8:59 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: Christopher Smith wrote: On 20.06.2007 Bob Florence wrote: Do you all know the term underscore as used on a computer keyboard. I do. However, a friend told me he always had trouble using this one. It's shift dash_. I want to use this in my e mail address. Heh, heh, I think I know why he wants to do this. He wants an email that is read like this I underscore movies at warnerbrothers dot com or something similar. I already thought of that one... 8-) Christopher Hmmm... in that case, would 'underscore' be defined as 'writing sparse music for'? :) Ah, I see you understand music set to image! Most neophytes write WAY too busy when they start out writing for film, TV, CD-ROM background music, jingles, ballet, etc. Part (a LARGE part!) of the experience is what is NOT in the music, and most composers are used to composing for nothing but sound. Christopher (who overwrites everything anyway, music for image being no exception...) Or, as a jazz player would say the notes you don't play are as important as the ones you do. :) cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] test
Bob Florence wrote: test Bob Florence Multiple-guess, essay, or fill-in-the-blank? cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] errors in instrument.txt and ensembles.txt now trumpets
Aaron Rabushka wrote: Janacek's bass trumpets in the Sinfonietta, anyone? of the e-flat bass trumpet in the Rite of Spring? Did the Janacek a few years ago, and we used valve trombones for bass trumpets. For the ROS ... Peck-horns, anyone? :) cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] printing to large format
Bob Shuster wrote: I've been trying to no avail to print a score to large (tabloid - 11x17) paper from Finale. I've tried adjusting the page setup, tried all sorts of stuff in the print dialog, tried all sorts of settings with my printer - all to no avail. Setup is MacPro (Intel) running OS X 10.4.9 Finale 2007c, printer is HP LaserJet 5200. I laid the score out originally in landscape mode for normal letter-sized paper, but no matter what I do it still prints at that size on the larger paper. I even tried saving it as a PDF and then printing larger from the PDF file - that didn't work either. Any thoughts? - Bob No guarantees on a Mac, but... On my PC, I go to Print, then Setup Printer and select paper, and set up the page size and orientation, click OK, then check the Finale dialogue (1-up or 2-up), and that generally works. Good luck! cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] very OT: Orchestras by Howell
Raymond Horton wrote: I'll be here all week, folks. Don't forget to tip your waiters. How many degrees, and in what direction? cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Languages
Henry E. Howey wrote: I wonder how much of the language fear is sheer ignorance. I learned Spanish at age 11. As a result, several other languages were later not such a problem. I tend to feel guilty when I'm in a country with a minority language that I don't know it. I dunno, but I can guarantee that a lot of people here (and I live about 20 miles from the border with Mexico) have no facility whatsoever for language, and even with a lifetime of exposure do not pick up more than a few words. And this excludes those who refuse to try for whatever reason. You may be lucky that you have little difficulty learning languages, but a lot of people do have trouble, and I can think of more than a few who are not even fully fluent in one. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fwd: How to get 1/2 into a text expression
Christopher Smith wrote: Hi, this message didn't seem to make it through the first time I sent it (at least, I didn't get it back from the list!) C. The non-unicode ½ symbol is Alt-0189 cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Removing embedded graphics
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Hi all, I'm sending this again. My requests about graphics here seem to vanish. There must be *somebody* who works with graphics in Finale! :) The first one didn't vanish, but: A) I don't use a Mac B) I've never embedded a graphic so I have no useful knowledge here. And I also have no use for graphics, and am a bit curious as to what you use them for. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
