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Hello all, Does anyone need to convert a bunch of files from FrameMaker to 
InDesign, retaining 98% of layout, all index markers, graphics and possibly 
cross-references? I have just completed a project like that and can take on 
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Hi,

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A few days ago, I came across a good shopping website. 
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I have bought some items from this site, and i am very satisfied with their 
items and services. 
If you have any question please contact with the online servicers you will have 
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Hi,

How are you doing these days? 
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a good reply.
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Hi,

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Hi,

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FrameMaker vs InDesign book files

[Michael Zaichenko]

I personally use File > Package... feature. It makes a duplicate of all files 
incl. the book itself and changes all links automatically. Plus you can specify 
whether you want the graphics and fonts copied as well.

Is that what you are trying to do?

Michael


> From: rick at rickquatro.com
> To: srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk
> Subject: RE: FrameMaker vs InDesign book files
> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 14:39:50 -0500
> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> I thought maybe scripting could come to the rescue, since InDesign has a lot
> of scripting choices (AppleScript on Mac, VBScript on PC, JavaScript on
> both). My thought was to write a script that would loop through the
> duplicated book's files and point them to the files in the duplicated
> folder. Unfortunately, the fullName property for each book component is
> read-only so you can't programmatically change it.
> 
> By the way, the paths to each component in a FrameMaker book are actually
> stored internally as absolute, but when you open the book, FrameMaker
> "resolves" the paths, and treats them as relative, if possible. This is how
> paths to imported images and external cross-references are handled as well.
> With FrameMaker, these path properties are fully writeable, which means you
> can change them with FrameScript or an FDK client.
> 
> You can see an example of how this can be beneficial for imported graphics
> here:
> 
> http://frameautomation.com/2010/02/23/managing-imported-images-solution
> 
> A similar thing can be done for FrameMaker books, especially large books
> with complex numbering or pagination requirements. Say that you want to
> duplicate the book but use it with a set of components with different names.
> You want to use the same book because you spent a lot of time getting the
> component numbering and pagination for each set up just right. You would
> follow this procedure.
> 
> 1) Duplicate the book and put it in the new folder.
> 2) Run a script that extracts all of the book paths into a spreadsheet file.
> 3) Open the spreadsheet file and edit the paths to point to the new
> components.
> 4) Run a companion script to update the book's component paths to those
> specified in the spreadsheet.
> 
> All of the components will have the properties as originally specified in
> the original book, even though they point to different components. The
> assumption here is that the new book has the same number of components in
> the same positions as the old book. But even if there are slight
> differences, changing them by hand after you use the scripts will still be
> less work than building and configuring a new book from scratch.
> 
> This method can also be used to update a book after you move or rename its
> components.
> 
> I also have a similar script that allows you to change external
> cross-reference paths with an Excel spreadsheet.
> 
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 585-659-8267
> rick at frameexpert.com
> 
> *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com
> 
> 
> Here is an issue that just caught me out, so I'm posting it here in case
> it's of use to anyone who uses both apps.
> 
> When versioning books in FrameMaker, I duplicate the entire enclosing folder
> and then create an alias to the book file in the copied folder. This is a
> common operation.
> 
> The alias is a red herring here, but when you duplicate a book's enclosing
> folder in InDesign, open the book file in the duplicate and from there open
> a chapter file in the book, InD opens the *original* chapter file and not
> the corresponding chapter file in the duplicated book. This is because InD's
> references to files in a book are absolute and not relative: this can be
> confirmed by hovering over the chapter name in the book file. This is
> potentially very confusing for people who use both applications. The only
> way around it in InD that I can see is to delete and recreate the book file
> after duplicating the book's enclosing folder.
> 
> This has just landed me with a bit of a version control headache that I had
> to sort out by hand. There's nothing about book versioning that I can see in
> InD's help (CS3), and although Kvern and Blattner ('Real World InDesign 2')
> touch on this in relation to individual chapter files, no thought seems to
> have been given to versioning entire books. As FrameMaker uses relative file
> pathnames, its operation is completely different: duplicating a book's
> folder and then opening the book file in the duplicate accesses the chapter
> files in the *duplicate* also, as most folks here will know. I find
> FrameMaker's approach much more logical, but maybe InD is bound by the
> operation of InCopy or some other part of the Adobe stable.
> 
> Something to watch out for. I guess I should be posting this to an InD
> group, but I'm not on any.
> 
> -- 
> Steve
> 
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RE: FrameMaker vs InDesign book files

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I personally use File  Package... feature. It makes a duplicate of all files 
incl. the book itself and changes all links automatically. Plus you can specify 
whether you want the graphics and fonts copied as well.

Is that what you are trying to do?

Michael


 From: r...@rickquatro.com
 To: srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk
 Subject: RE: FrameMaker vs InDesign book files
 Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 14:39:50 -0500
 CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 
 Hi Steve,
 
 I thought maybe scripting could come to the rescue, since InDesign has a lot
 of scripting choices (AppleScript on Mac, VBScript on PC, JavaScript on
 both). My thought was to write a script that would loop through the
 duplicated book's files and point them to the files in the duplicated
 folder. Unfortunately, the fullName property for each book component is
 read-only so you can't programmatically change it.
 
 By the way, the paths to each component in a FrameMaker book are actually
 stored internally as absolute, but when you open the book, FrameMaker
 resolves the paths, and treats them as relative, if possible. This is how
 paths to imported images and external cross-references are handled as well.
 With FrameMaker, these path properties are fully writeable, which means you
 can change them with FrameScript or an FDK client.
 
 You can see an example of how this can be beneficial for imported graphics
 here:
 
 http://frameautomation.com/2010/02/23/managing-imported-images-solution
 
 A similar thing can be done for FrameMaker books, especially large books
 with complex numbering or pagination requirements. Say that you want to
 duplicate the book but use it with a set of components with different names.
 You want to use the same book because you spent a lot of time getting the
 component numbering and pagination for each set up just right. You would
 follow this procedure.
 
 1) Duplicate the book and put it in the new folder.
 2) Run a script that extracts all of the book paths into a spreadsheet file.
 3) Open the spreadsheet file and edit the paths to point to the new
 components.
 4) Run a companion script to update the book's component paths to those
 specified in the spreadsheet.
 
 All of the components will have the properties as originally specified in
 the original book, even though they point to different components. The
 assumption here is that the new book has the same number of components in
 the same positions as the old book. But even if there are slight
 differences, changing them by hand after you use the scripts will still be
 less work than building and configuring a new book from scratch.
 
 This method can also be used to update a book after you move or rename its
 components.
 
 I also have a similar script that allows you to change external
 cross-reference paths with an Excel spreadsheet.
 
 Rick Quatro
 Carmen Publishing Inc.
 585-659-8267
 r...@frameexpert.com
 
 *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com
 
 
 Here is an issue that just caught me out, so I'm posting it here in case
 it's of use to anyone who uses both apps.
 
 When versioning books in FrameMaker, I duplicate the entire enclosing folder
 and then create an alias to the book file in the copied folder. This is a
 common operation.
 
 The alias is a red herring here, but when you duplicate a book's enclosing
 folder in InDesign, open the book file in the duplicate and from there open
 a chapter file in the book, InD opens the *original* chapter file and not
 the corresponding chapter file in the duplicated book. This is because InD's
 references to files in a book are absolute and not relative: this can be
 confirmed by hovering over the chapter name in the book file. This is
 potentially very confusing for people who use both applications. The only
 way around it in InD that I can see is to delete and recreate the book file
 after duplicating the book's enclosing folder.
 
 This has just landed me with a bit of a version control headache that I had
 to sort out by hand. There's nothing about book versioning that I can see in
 InD's help (CS3), and although Kvern and Blattner ('Real World InDesign 2')
 touch on this in relation to individual chapter files, no thought seems to
 have been given to versioning entire books. As FrameMaker uses relative file
 pathnames, its operation is completely different: duplicating a book's
 folder and then opening the book file in the duplicate accesses the chapter
 files in the *duplicate* also, as most folks here will know. I find
 FrameMaker's approach much more logical, but maybe InD is bound by the
 operation of InCopy or some other part of the Adobe stable.
 
 Something to watch out for. I guess I should be posting this to an InD
 group, but I'm not on any.
 
 -- 
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Disobedient hyperlinks

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello Framers,

here is what I'm trying to accomplish:

1. Create a pop-up menu of hypertext commands
2. Create a pop-up submenu of hypertext commands
3. Execute a script from the menu.

Example:

Ocean (menu)
 Sea water (item - exec script)
 Sea plants (item - exec script)
 Sea animals (submenu)
   Whales (item - exec scipt)
   Sharks (item - exec script)

All is going well and I'm getting things to pop up correctly. Scripts run Ok on 
the first level of items - Sea water and Sea plants but when I get to Sea 
animals, I do get a popup of items - Whales and sharks but the script won't 
run. I checked the links and names and these are in order. I tested links from 
a reference page where they are described and the script is running fine if you 
Alt+Ctrl+Click on hypertext in the reference page. However when you are on the 
Body page and try to run the above scenario the script won't execute.

What am I doing wrong here.

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DRAG-N-DROP with FrameScript

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Hello Framers,



Recently was scripting a palette, using eForm and eListBox objects. While these 
were handy and one can do multi-selections and run sub-routines at a click or 
double-click, I came across something which I was not able to solve yet. If I 
want to move an item from one list into another, I have to create an additional 
button or script around a double-clicking on an item to get items move. I was 
wondering if anyone has ever scripted some sort of a drag-n-drop with 
FrameScript.



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DRAG-N-DROP with FrameScript

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello Framers,

 

Recently was scripting a palette, using eForm and eListBox objects. While these 
were handy and one can do multi-selections and run sub-routines at a click or 
double-click, I came across something which I was not able to solve yet. If I 
want to move an item from one list into another, I have to create an additional 
button or script around a double-clicking on an item to get items move. I was 
wondering if anyone has ever scripted some sort of a drag-n-drop with 
FrameScript.

 

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FMTOOLBAR

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Hello everyone, if anyone knows Dan Hall's e-mail, please relay the below to 
him. I couldn't find his address (d...@cooper.com doesn't work).
Thanks in advance.

Michael



Hello Dan,

I read your post on customizing FrameMaker toolbars
and I need your advice. My toolbar is also mega customized and I'm
running majority of frame scripts directly from FM interface. Now,
recently I decided to make an even more customized bar. So I added a
.bmp (80x16 px) to my fmcustom.dll file and then changed the syntax in
the fmtoolbr.ini file to this resource with an event attached to it.
What I get is that the button does appear and it is 80x16 px but... the
image that is on the button appears only 1/3. I.e. the button resource
says custom button and I only can see cust in the FrameMaker. The
button works fine otherwise. I tried changing the .bmp to 16 bit and
even 4 bit color scheme but this didn't have any effect. Do you know
what I might be doing wrong?

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Hello everyone, if anyone knows Dan Hall's e-mail, please relay the below to 
him. I couldn't find his address (dan at cooper.com doesn't work).
Thanks in advance.

Michael



Hello Dan,

I read your post on customizing FrameMaker toolbars
and I need your advice. My toolbar is also mega customized and I'm
running majority of frame scripts directly from FM interface. Now,
recently I decided to make an even more customized bar. So I added a
.bmp (80x16 px) to my fmcustom.dll file and then changed the syntax in
the fmtoolbr.ini file to this resource with an event attached to it.
What I get is that the button does appear and it is 80x16 px but... the
image that is on the button appears only 1/3. I.e. the button resource
says "custom button" and I only can see "cust" in the FrameMaker. The
button works fine otherwise. I tried changing the .bmp to 16 bit and
even 4 bit color scheme but this didn't have any effect. Do you know
what I might be doing wrong?

Michael
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BUTTONS in FRAMEMAKER

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hi Framers,

So here is another toughie. I'm modifying the QuickAccess bar in FrameMaker and 
have added new bitmaps to the .dll file. I modified the FMToolbr.ini file and 
I'm getting the buttons to appear in FM correctly with only one but... Though 
the button appears the size of the bitmap in the .dll file the image that is on 
it doesn't display correctly, i.e. I can only see a quarter of an image. Does 
anyone know why and how to handle it?

Any suggestions are welcome.

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BUTTONS in FRAMEMAKER

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Hi Framers,

So here is another toughie. I'm modifying the QuickAccess bar in FrameMaker and 
have added new bitmaps to the .dll file. I modified the FMToolbr.ini file and 
I'm getting the buttons to appear in FM correctly with only one "but"... Though 
the button appears the size of the bitmap in the .dll file the image that is on 
it doesn't display correctly, i.e. I can only see a quarter of an image. Does 
anyone know why and how to handle it?

Any suggestions are welcome.

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geometry in framescript

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Hello Framers,
Does anyone know what is the syntax for sin and cos function in FrameScript?
I'm trying to draw a curve based on sin(x) function but it doesn't seem to be 
available in FrameScript.

Ideas?

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geometry in framescript

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello Framers,
Does anyone know what is the syntax for sin and cos function in FrameScript?
I'm trying to draw a curve based on sin(x) function but it doesn't seem to be 
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Ideas?

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RE: EXTENSIS USERS?

[Michael Zaichenko]

Frame does see fonts manually activated from Suitcase, that is not the issue. 
What I would like to resolve (but I guess with Frame it is not quite possible) 
is the auto-activation of the fonts used in specific products. I.e. I have 
multilingual production and different fonts are necessary to operate them - 
though they have the same names, they are using different maps (the first 
reason why I turned to Extensis, because good old ATM wouldn't cut it at all 
without removing fonts and putting new ones.) So in InDesign (as an example) 
Suitcase activates fonts based on the file I open - i.e. if I open Czech file - 
fonts from Czech folder get active. As I open Greek file - greek fonts get 
active and the Czech ones get de-activated because they have the same names. Do 
you follow?

Michael

 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:11:34 -0800
 Subject: RE: EXTENSIS USERS?
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  well, Extensis provides plugins for Illustrator, InDesign and Quark. I 
  wonder
  if anyone thought of making one for Frame... Probably I should file a 
  request
  with the developers for such a thing. Might be useful to many people.
 
 The application plug-ins are for auto-activation.
 One can still activate required fonts manually in Suitcase.
 Older programs may require a restart before they will see the fonts; newer
 programs should recognize the new fonts after a second or two.
 
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 I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training
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EXTENSIS USERS?

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Frame does see fonts manually activated from Suitcase, that is not the issue. 
What I would like to resolve (but I guess with Frame it is not quite possible) 
is the auto-activation of the fonts used in specific products. I.e. I have 
multilingual production and different fonts are necessary to operate them - 
though they have the same names, they are using different maps (the first 
reason why I turned to Extensis, because good old ATM wouldn't cut it at all 
without removing fonts and putting new ones.) So in InDesign (as an example) 
Suitcase activates fonts based on the file I open - i.e. if I open Czech file - 
fonts from Czech folder get active. As I open Greek file - greek fonts get 
active and the Czech ones get de-activated because they have the same names. Do 
you follow?

Michael

> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:11:34 -0800
> Subject: RE: EXTENSIS USERS?
> From: ideaslists at ideastraining.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> > well, Extensis provides plugins for Illustrator, InDesign and Quark. I 
> > wonder
> > if anyone thought of making one for Frame... Probably I should file a 
> > request
> > with the developers for such a thing. Might be useful to many people.
> 
> The application plug-ins are for auto-activation.
> One can still activate required fonts manually in Suitcase.
> Older programs may require a restart before they will "see" the fonts; newer
> programs should recognize the new fonts after a second or two.
> 
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EXTENSIS USERS?

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello Framers, 
does anyone have any experience working with Extensis Suitcase for Windows and 
integrating it with FrameMaker?
I'm on XP SP3, FM 7.1. Extensis Suitcase 11.
It works fine with InDesign and Illustrator but FM seems beyond its reach yet 
and so is Photoshop.

Any suggestions?

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RE: EXTENSIS USERS?

[Michael Zaichenko]

well, Extensis provides plugins for Illustrator, InDesign and Quark. I wonder 
if anyone thought of making one for Frame... Probably I should file a request 
with the developers for such a thing. Might be useful to many people.


Michael

 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:04:08 -0500
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 If you're using it to avoid font substitutions, it's unlikely to work
 with FM because FM does its own font substitutions (which you can
 control by editing the maker.ini file) and I think Suitcase tries to
 work at the OS level --- so it's unlikely to know what's happening
 inside each application.
 
 Art
 
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 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Michael Zaichenko
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello Framers,
  does anyone have any experience working with Extensis Suitcase for Windows 
  and integrating it with FrameMaker?
  I'm on XP SP3, FM 7.1. Extensis Suitcase 11.
  It works fine with InDesign and Illustrator but FM seems beyond its reach 
  yet and so is Photoshop.
 
  Any suggestions?
 
  Michael
 
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[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello Framers, 
does anyone have any experience working with Extensis Suitcase for Windows and 
integrating it with FrameMaker?
I'm on XP SP3, FM 7.1. Extensis Suitcase 11.
It works fine with InDesign and Illustrator but FM seems beyond its reach yet 
and so is Photoshop.

Any suggestions?

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EXTENSIS USERS?

[Michael Zaichenko]

well, Extensis provides plugins for Illustrator, InDesign and Quark. I wonder 
if anyone thought of making one for Frame... Probably I should file a request 
with the developers for such a thing. Might be useful to many people.


Michael

> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:04:08 -0500
> From: art.campbell at gmail.com
> To: biozaichenko at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: EXTENSIS USERS?
> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> If you're using it to avoid font substitutions, it's unlikely to work
> with FM because FM does its own font substitutions (which you can
> control by editing the maker.ini file) and I think Suitcase tries to
> work at the OS level --- so it's unlikely to know what's happening
> inside each application.
> 
> Art
> 
> Art Campbell
>   art.campbell at gmail.com
>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>   No disclaimers apply.
>        DoD 358
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Michael Zaichenko
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hello Framers,
> > does anyone have any experience working with Extensis Suitcase for Windows 
> > and integrating it with FrameMaker?
> > I'm on XP SP3, FM 7.1. Extensis Suitcase 11.
> > It works fine with InDesign and Illustrator but FM seems beyond its reach 
> > yet and so is Photoshop.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Michael
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ADVANCED QUESTION

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Hello all,

i have an advanced question. Does anyone know how to control mouse pointer in 
FrameMaker. FM has its own mouse pointer set up i.e. it displays different 
pointer depending on an object selected. I would like to expand this to custom 
made objects - i.e. give a cursor different appearance when it is hovered over 
a specific type of an object.

Ideas?

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RE: ADVANCED QUESTION

[Michael Zaichenko]

thanks Rick,
yes, I know how to change the existing ones. How about adding new ones and 
associating them.

Michael

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 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:48:45 -0400
 
 Hi Michael,
 
 You might be able to use a resource editor like XN Resource Editor to change 
 the cursors. Make sure you back up any FrameMaker resource files before 
 changing them.
 
 Rick Quatro
 Carmen Publishing Inc
 585-659-8267
 www.frameexpert.com
 
 
 
  Hello all,
 
  i have an advanced question. Does anyone know how to control mouse pointer 
  in FrameMaker. FM has its own mouse pointer set up i.e. it displays 
  different pointer depending on an object selected. I would like to expand 
  this to custom made objects - i.e. give a cursor different appearance when 
  it is hovered over a specific type of an object.
 
  Ideas?
 
  Michael
 
  Im on FM 7.1, XP SP3
 

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Hello all,

i have an advanced question. Does anyone know how to control mouse pointer in 
FrameMaker. FM has its own mouse pointer set up i.e. it displays different 
pointer depending on an object selected. I would like to expand this to custom 
made objects - i.e. give a cursor different appearance when it is hovered over 
a specific type of an object.

Ideas?

Michael

Im on FM 7.1, XP SP3

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ADVANCED QUESTION

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thanks Rick,
yes, I know how to change the existing ones. How about adding new ones and 
associating them.

Michael

> From: frameexpert at truevine.net
> To: biozaichenko at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: ADVANCED QUESTION
> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:48:45 -0400
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> You might be able to use a resource editor like XN Resource Editor to change 
> the cursors. Make sure you back up any FrameMaker resource files before 
> changing them.
> 
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc
> 585-659-8267
> www.frameexpert.com
> 
> 
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > i have an advanced question. Does anyone know how to control mouse pointer 
> > in FrameMaker. FM has its own mouse pointer set up i.e. it displays 
> > different pointer depending on an object selected. I would like to expand 
> > this to custom made objects - i.e. give a cursor different appearance when 
> > it is hovered over a specific type of an object.
> >
> > Ideas?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > Im on FM 7.1, XP SP3
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2 versions of FM 7

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello all,
probably this question was already answered elsewhere, I just couldn't find a 
reference. I need to install 2 different versions of FM 7 on the same machine - 
build b023 and another build p116. Reason for this is that I have a language 
patch for b023 and it doesn't exist for p116. When I put both builds on my 
computer - one of them (whichever installed earlier) would not work and an 
error message would appear saying that the resources are not matching the 
serial number I inserted. I heard there is a way of doing this - putting 2 
frames on the same registry but can't recall where I saw it.
 
Can someone help?
 
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2 versions of FM 7

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello all,
probably this question was already answered elsewhere, I just couldn't find a 
reference. I need to install 2 different versions of FM 7 on the same machine - 
build b023 and another build p116. Reason for this is that I have a language 
patch for b023 and it doesn't exist for p116. When I put both builds on my 
computer - one of them (whichever installed earlier) would not work and an 
error message would appear saying that the resources are not matching the 
serial number I inserted. I heard there is a way of doing this - putting 2 
frames on the same registry but can't recall where I saw it.

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VIETNAM INDEX

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello all,
 
I'm having fun generating index for a Vietnamese manual and I could use some 
help. Actually... HELP!!!
For those who is not familiar with vietnamese - the alphabet contains 18 
letters A with all manner of accents, 12 letters E and about same for O and U - 
so obviously we can't talk about normal $alphabetics on the reference page. I 
set up reference page with the whole sequence of letters as they would need to 
appear by alphabet and Frame does generate index in a correct sequence. Ref. 
page looks something like that: AaĀāĂ㥹 Bb Cc Dd ĒēĔĕĖė Ff Gg... etc.
Now, the problem is that for some reason FrameMaker thinks that some letters 
are identical to each other and sorts them as if they were the same so you 
would end up with
 
tổn thương:sự kiệt sức và
tổn thương:sự tái kích thích của
 
sorted as:
 
tổn thương, 15
  sự kiệt sức và, 90, 54
 
the way I noticed something was wrong was that the page numbers appear out of 
sequence. Checked and saw that two totally different entries sorted as one.
 
Has anyone run into doing this kind of stuff?
 
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Hello all,

I'm having "fun" generating index for a Vietnamese manual and I could use some 
help. Actually... HELP!!!
For those who is not familiar with vietnamese - the alphabet contains 18 
letters A with all manner of accents, 12 letters E and about same for O and U - 
so obviously we can't talk about normal <$alphabetics> on the reference page. I 
set up reference page with the whole sequence of letters as they would need to 
appear by alphabet and Frame does generate index in a correct sequence. Ref. 
page looks something like that: Aa?? Bb Cc Dd ?? Ff Gg... etc.
Now, the problem is that for some reason FrameMaker thinks that some letters 
are identical to each other and sorts them as if they were the same so you 
would end up with

t?n th??ng:s? ki?t s?c v?
t?n th??ng:s?? ta?i ki?ch thi?ch cu?a

sorted as:

t?n th??ng, 15
  s? ki?t s?c v?, 90, 54

the way I noticed something was wrong was that the page numbers appear out of 
sequence. Checked and saw that two totally different entries sorted as one.

Has anyone run into doing this kind of stuff?

Can someone help?

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RE: Greek Characters in Frame dialog boxes

[Michael Zaichenko]

I tweaked my .dll file to use different font and now, by activating different 
versions of this font I get Greek, Cyrillic and Baltic characters.
 
Michael



 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:07:58 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL 
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 boxes CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com  Maxwell, I saw a post in 
 yesterday's digest (from Milan D)asking about an unanswered post from you 
 regarding pasting Greek characters into Frame dialog boxes (indexing in your 
 case, I think).   I had a similar post some time ago and one of the 
 responses I got suggested that tho the characters would appear in the dialog 
 box as gibberish, Frame would render them properly if I let it proceed.   
 The doc I was working with was so short and I had already fixed the few 
 instances manually, so I didn't proceed with that route. I think I tested it 
 tho and it seem to recall it working.   Perhaps you could share with Milan 
 how you ended up resolving your issue. I expect I'll run into this again in 
 the future, and next time I may need a more robust solution.  Regards, 
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I tweaked my .dll file to use different font and now, by activating different 
versions of this font I get Greek, Cyrillic and Baltic characters.

Michael



> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:07:58 +> From: jopakent at comcast.net> To: 
> maxwell.hoffmann at welocalize.com; milan.lists at gmail.com> Subject: Greek 
> Characters in Frame dialog boxes> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com> > 
> Maxwell, I saw a post in yesterday's digest (from Milan D)asking about an 
> unanswered post from you regarding pasting Greek characters into Frame dialog 
> boxes (indexing in your case, I think). > > I had a similar post some time 
> ago and one of the responses I got suggested that tho the characters would 
> appear in the dialog box as gibberish, Frame would render them properly if I 
> let it proceed. > > The doc I was working with was so short and I had already 
> fixed the few instances manually, so I didn't proceed with that route. I 
> think I tested it tho and it seem to recall it working. > > Perhaps you could 
> share with Milan how you ended up resolving your issue. I expect I'll run 
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FW: ACTIVATING FONTS

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Sep 2008 17:45:09 +0200


Dear Dov,thanks for such an extensive answer. I had no idea. What handles it so 
far is de-activating, activating a set. Then it gets picked up by Frame too. I 
probably will set it up so when i add font it is not activated and then click 
activate and all will be good. Do you think its a good idea to go with extensis 
or is ATM a prefered font manager? Michael

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 Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:06:57 -0700 Subject: RE: ACTIVATING FONTS  
 Michael,  Contrary to what you may believe, FrameMaker has no 
 autoactivation option it it. Like other Windows applications, when a font 
 is added to the system, via Windows' standard Add Fonts control panel 
 option or via ATM (or for that matter any font manager that properly 
 interfaces with Windows), Windows' underlying font system sends a message to 
 all open applications advising of a change in the font system. An 
 application may then choose to query the system for all available fonts 
 (font enumeration).  If adding a font via Extensis Suitcase does not 
 properly get notification to applications about the change in the available 
 fonts, it is likely an issue with Suitcase.  By the way, you are misusing 
 the term autoactivation. The term autoactivation would refer to the 
 scenario whereby your document (i
 n this case, a FrameMaker document) refers to a font that isn't currently 
installed on your system. Autoactivation would cause the font manager to 
look for the desired font in its own private collection of available, but not 
installed fonts, and if such a font was available, automatically and 
immediately install that font on the system and advise the application of its 
availability.  For better or worse, such an autoactivation capability 
normally requires cooperation (i.e., a programming interface) with the 
application programs that could make use of same. Neither FrameMaker nor ATM 
support any autoactivation mechanism.  - Dov   -Original 
Message-  From: Michael Zaichenko  Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 
11:20 AM   Hello Framers,  Been using ATM for years. FrameMaker has this 
autoactivation option in it which is only compatible  with ATM. I.e. when you 
install a font - it gets picked up by FrameMaker instantly. I'm trying  Exte
 nsis Suitcase now and noticed that unless I restart FrameMaker - the fonts 
wouldn't show up and no  messages would pop up that the new fonts are 
installed. ATM is all good when one is using a stable set  of fonts. But what 
if I'm having about 20 differently mapped fonts and depending on a language I 
would  just install the fonts for that language. Fonts are with the same 
names. In this wise I don't have to  make changes in the template documents. 
ATM only allows 1 version of a font (plus adds a confusion if  you install 
true type and type1 version of the same font). I'm trying to swap over to 
Suitcase but  then there is this bug with not activating fonts immediately 
(besides that it can't export/import  set).   Does anyone know how to go 
about it?   Michael

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FW: ACTIVATING FONTS

[Michael Zaichenko]

From: biozaichenko at hotmail.comTo: isaacs@adobe.comSubject: RE: ACTIVATING 
FONTSDate: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 17:45:09 +0200


Dear Dov,thanks for such an extensive answer. I had no idea. What handles it so 
far is de-activating, activating a set. Then it gets picked up by Frame too. I 
probably will set it up so when i add font it is not activated and then click 
activate and all will be good. Do you think its a good idea to go with extensis 
or is ATM a prefered font manager? Michael

> From: isaacs at adobe.com> To: biozaichenko at hotmail.com; framers at 
> lists.frameusers.com> Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:06:57 -0700> Subject: RE: 
> ACTIVATING FONTS> > Michael,> > Contrary to what you may believe, FrameMaker 
> has no "autoactivation"> option it it. Like other Windows applications, when 
> a font is added to> the system, via Windows' standard "Add Fonts" control 
> panel option or> via ATM (or for that matter any font manager that properly 
> interfaces> with Windows), Windows' underlying font system sends a message to 
> all> open applications advising of a change in the font system. An 
> application> may then choose to query the system for all available fonts 
> (font enumeration).> > If adding a font via Extensis Suitcase does not 
> properly get notification> to applications about the change in the available 
> fonts, it is likely an> issue with Suitcase.> > By the way, you are misusing 
> the term "autoactivation." The term> "autoactivation" would refer to the 
> scenario whereby your document (in this> case, a FrameMaker document) refers 
> to a font that isn't currently installed> on your system. "Autoactivation" 
> would cause the font manager to look for> the desired font in its own private 
> collection of available, but not installed> fonts, and if such a font was 
> available, automatically and immediately install> that font on the system and 
> advise the application of its availability.> > For better or worse, such an 
> "autoactivation" capability normally requires> "cooperation" (i.e., a 
> programming interface) with the application programs> that could make use of 
> same. Neither FrameMaker nor ATM support any> "autoactivation" mechanism.> > 
> - Dov> > > -Original Message-> > From: Michael Zaichenko> > Sent: 
> Saturday, September 06, 2008 11:20 AM> >> > Hello Framers,> > Been using ATM 
> for years. FrameMaker has this autoactivation option in it which is only 
> compatible> > with ATM. I.e. when you install a font - it gets picked up by 
> FrameMaker instantly. I'm trying> > Extensis Suitcase now and noticed that 
> unless I restart FrameMaker - the fonts wouldn't show up and no> > messages 
> would pop up that the new fonts are installed. ATM is all good when one is 
> using a stable set> > of fonts. But what if I'm having about 20 differently 
> mapped fonts and depending on a language I would> > just install the fonts 
> for that language. Fonts are with the same names. In this wise I don't have 
> to> > make changes in the template documents. ATM only allows 1 version of a 
> font (plus adds a confusion if> > you install true type and type1 version of 
> the same font). I'm trying to swap over to Suitcase but> > then there is this 
> bug with not activating fonts immediately (besides that it can't 
> export/import> > set).> >> > Does anyone know how to go about it?> >> > 
> Michael

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ACTIVATING FONTS

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello Framers,
Been using ATM for years. FrameMaker has this autoactivation option in it which 
is only compatible with ATM. I.e. when you install a font - it gets picked up 
by FrameMaker instantly. I'm trying Extensis Suitcase now and noticed that 
unless I restart FrameMaker - the fonts wouldn't show up and no messages would 
pop up that the new fonts are installed. ATM is all good when one is using a 
stable set of fonts. But what if I'm having about 20 differently mapped fonts 
and depending on a language I would just install the fonts for that language. 
Fonts are with the same names. In this wise I don't have to make changes in the 
template documents. ATM only allows 1 version of a font (plus adds a confusion 
if you install true type and type1 version of the same font). I'm trying to 
swap over to Suitcase but then there is this bug with not activating fonts 
immediately (besides that it can't export/import set).
 
Does anyone know how to go about it?
 
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ACTIVATING FONTS

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello Framers,
Been using ATM for years. FrameMaker has this autoactivation option in it which 
is only compatible with ATM. I.e. when you install a font - it gets picked up 
by FrameMaker instantly. I'm trying Extensis Suitcase now and noticed that 
unless I restart FrameMaker - the fonts wouldn't show up and no messages would 
pop up that the new fonts are installed. ATM is all good when one is using a 
stable set of fonts. But what if I'm having about 20 differently mapped fonts 
and depending on a language I would just install the fonts for that language. 
Fonts are with the same names. In this wise I don't have to make changes in the 
template documents. ATM only allows 1 version of a font (plus adds a confusion 
if you install true type and type1 version of the same font). I'm trying to 
swap over to Suitcase but then there is this bug with not activating fonts 
immediately (besides that it can't export/import set).

Does anyone know how to go about it?

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XREF CONUNDRUM

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello there,
here I am, having a problem with XRefs. Here is what I'm trying to do:
Source document has a bunch of Cross-Ref markers on different pages.
Destination document has XReferences to the source document with a format Page 
XX.
Everything goes fine where the markers are in a normal flow of text.
Troubles start when the Cross-Ref marker appears inside of the table (these are 
anchored to blank paragraphs in a source document and are plain tables with 5 
columns each and some text in each cell). When the marker is inside a paragraph 
in a cell, it appears as Page Table5 in the destination document where 
Table5 is a tag name of a table this marker is in.
In short I get Page TableX instead of Page XX.
Does anyone know the reason for this behavior.
I'm on XP SP2, FM 7.1, FS 4.1.
Thanks in advance.
 
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RE: XREF CONUNDRUM

[Michael Zaichenko]

Yes, that's right the format is Page $pagenum - I abbreviated it in my 
original message. Now what's odd is that one marker in a cell causes trouble 
and the other one, just next to it with exactly same settings doesn't. Moreover 
if I just retype the marker text inside the marker and re-XRef it to my 
destination doc it comes out good. Is that some sort of a glitch I should be 
aware of?
 
Michael



 Subject: RE: XREF CONUNDRUM Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:05:50 -0600 From: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com  
 Michael Zaichenko  Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:48 AM  To: 
 FrameUsers Users  Subject: XREF CONUNDRUMHello there,  here I am, 
 having a problem with XRefs. Here is what I'm trying to do:  Source 
 document has a bunch of Cross-Ref markers on different pages.  Destination 
 document has XReferences to the source document with a format  Page XX. 
  Everything goes fine where the markers are in a normal flow of text.  
 Troubles start when the Cross-Ref marker appears inside of the table (these 
  are anchored to blank paragraphs in a source document and are plain 
 tables  with 5 columns each and some text in each cell). When the marker 
 is inside  a paragraph in a cell, it appears as Page Table5 in the 
 destination  document where Table5 is a tag name of a table this marker 
 is in.
   In short I get Page TableX instead of Page XX.  Does anyone know the 
reason for this behavior.  You get the tag name when the cross-reference 
format definition contains the building block $paratag. It has nothing to do 
with tables, it's a matter of the xref format being used.  You need to look 
at your cross-reference format definitions. Page XX is not a format 
definition -- the likely definition for that cross-reference format is (sans 
quotes): Page $pagenum   Double-click an xref. In the Cross-reference 
dialog, click Edit Format. Then spend some time selecting the different 
formats defined in your document and looking at their definitions. If 
necessary, refer to the online help or manual for explanations of the 
different building blocks. It sounds like you have some issues with the xref 
format definitions in your docs or with your usage of them.   HTH! Richard 
  Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs A
 T polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 
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XREF CONUNDRUM

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello there,
here I am, having a problem with XRefs. Here is what I'm trying to do:
Source document has a bunch of Cross-Ref markers on different pages.
Destination document has XReferences to the source document with a format "Page 
XX".
Everything goes fine where the markers are in a normal flow of text.
Troubles start when the Cross-Ref marker appears inside of the table (these are 
anchored to blank paragraphs in a source document and are plain tables with 5 
columns each and some text in each cell). When the marker is inside a paragraph 
in a cell, it appears as "Page Table5" in the destination document where 
"Table5" is a tag name of a table this marker is in.
In short I get "Page TableX" instead of "Page XX".
Does anyone know the reason for this behavior.
I'm on XP SP2, FM 7.1, FS 4.1.
Thanks in advance.

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XREF CONUNDRUM

[Michael Zaichenko]

Yes, that's right the format is "Page <$pagenum>" - I abbreviated it in my 
original message. Now what's odd is that one marker in a cell causes trouble 
and the other one, just next to it with exactly same settings doesn't. Moreover 
if I just retype the marker text inside the marker and re-XRef it to my 
destination doc it comes out good. Is that some sort of a glitch I should be 
aware of?

Michael



> Subject: RE: XREF CONUNDRUM> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:05:50 -0600> From: 
> richard.combs at Polycom.com> To: biozaichenko at hotmail.com; framers at 
> lists.frameusers.com> > Michael Zaichenko> > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 
> 2008 8:48 AM> > To: FrameUsers Users> > Subject: XREF CONUNDRUM> > > > Hello 
> there,> > here I am, having a problem with XRefs. Here is what I'm trying to 
> do:> > Source document has a bunch of Cross-Ref markers on different pages.> 
> > Destination document has XReferences to the source document with a> format> 
> > "Page XX".> > Everything goes fine where the markers are in a normal flow 
> of text.> > Troubles start when the Cross-Ref marker appears inside of the 
> table> (these> > are anchored to blank paragraphs in a source document and 
> are plain> tables> > with 5 columns each and some text in each cell). When 
> the marker is> inside> > a paragraph in a cell, it appears as "Page Table5" 
> in the destination> > document where "Table5" is a tag name of a table this 
> marker is in.> > In short I get "Page TableX" instead of "Page XX".> > Does 
> anyone know the reason for this behavior.> > You get the tag name when the 
> cross-reference format definition contains> the building block <$paratag>. It 
> has nothing to do with tables, it's a> matter of the xref format being used.> 
> > You need to look at your cross-reference format definitions. "Page XX"> is 
> not a format definition -- the likely definition for that> cross-reference 
> format is (sans quotes): "Page <$pagenum>" > > Double-click an xref. In the 
> Cross-reference dialog, click Edit Format.> Then spend some time selecting 
> the different formats defined in your> document and looking at their 
> definitions. If necessary, refer to the> online help or manual for 
> explanations of the different building blocks.> It sounds like you have some 
> issues with the xref format definitions in> your docs or with your usage of 
> them. > > HTH!> Richard> > > Richard G. Combs> Senior Technical Writer> 
> Polycom, Inc.> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom> 303-223-5111> --> 
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom> 303-777-0436> --> > > > > 
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SORT ORDER

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello All,
working in InDesign this moment. Have to generate an index. Can't find any sort 
order control in here. I mean there are default language options for sorting 
orders but if I wanted my own alphabetical sequence (just like you can do in 
FrameMaker with its Reference pages) there are none.
Does anyone have a clue about it?
How do I create a completely custom sorting order in InDesign?
 
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SORT ORDER

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello All,
working in InDesign this moment. Have to generate an index. Can't find any sort 
order control in here. I mean there are default language options for sorting 
orders but if I wanted my own alphabetical sequence (just like you can do in 
FrameMaker with its Reference pages) there are none.
Does anyone have a clue about it?
How do I create a completely custom sorting order in InDesign?

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GUIDES in FRAMEMAKER

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello all,
just finished scripting GUIDES in FrameMaker. I.e. rules, just like you have in 
InDesign or Illustrator. I know Frame was missing this option ever since it 
appeared and it's been a situation for me ever since. Not anymore.
If someone is interested, let me know. Some had it on their wishlist for next 
release of FrameMaker...
 
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GUIDES in FRAMEMAKER

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello all,
just finished scripting GUIDES in FrameMaker. I.e. rules, just like you have in 
InDesign or Illustrator. I know Frame was missing this option ever since it 
appeared and it's been a situation for me ever since. Not anymore.
If someone is interested, let me know. Some had it on their wishlist for next 
release of FrameMaker...

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ON-SCREEN GUIDES

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello there,
does anyone know of a utility that would put guides on my screen. To explain: 
Frame doesn't have any guides and at times it's needed. Any advanced software - 
Photoshop, Indesign, etc. has rules (or guides) which you can just drag around 
and place wherever you need and align your objects accordingly. Not so with 
Frame. So I thought maybe there is some on-screen guides utility that I can 
use. I know, I know - grid lines, snapping, aligning, etc. are all to my 
discretion. However i'm doing a specific graphic work and all i need is guides.
 
Ideas?
 
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RE: ON-SCREEN GUIDES

[Michael Zaichenko]

Yes, you are right with InDesign. I'm using it too. My workflow is all around 
Frame though and I'm having to cope it somehow. Ever so often I have certain 
objects that have to be scaled and placed based on their look, not digital 
size and that is where guides come handy. I set off on a small project now to 
create a script that would handle these guides in FM. If someone is interested 
- I'm open to suggestions.
 
Michael
P.S. this one should reach the list ;-). Thanks for noticing it.



Subject: RE: ON-SCREEN GUIDESDate: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:59:06 -0700From: [EMAIL 
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Hi Michael,
 
I don't think you replied to the whole list with this. 
 
For a visual reference, I think drawing lines on the master page would work 
best, but you'd have to delete them before printing. 
 
I just don't see the need for a visual reference. You can align objects and 
accurately set their position on a page. It sounds like you might need a true 
page layout tool such as InDesign. 
 
Glenn


From: Michael Zaichenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 
2008 10:51To: Glenn VoylesSubject: RE: ON-SCREEN GUIDES
Thank you Glenn and all who answered,I appreciate that. My question actually 
was: Is there an on-screen utility that makes these guides. I don't care so 
much whether it is interacting with Frame or not. I need somewhat a visual 
guide rather than interactive/snap-on guides.Hope this makes the search a bit 
narrower. Michael

 Subject: RE: ON-SCREEN GUIDES Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:13:23 -0700 From: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: framers@lists.frameusers.com  Hi Michael,  I've 
 never bothered with guides in Frame. I use the Object Properties and specify 
 the top and left values.  Glenn  -Original Message- From: [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Zaichenko Sent: 
 Wednesday, August 13, 2008 01:51 To: FrameUsers Users Subject: ON-SCREEN 
 GUIDES  Hello there, does anyone know of a utility that would put guides 
 on my screen. To explain: Frame doesn't have any guides and at times it's 
 needed. Any advanced software - Photoshop, Indesign, etc. has rules (or 
 guides) which you can just drag around and place wherever you need and 
 align your objects accordingly. Not so with Frame. So I thought maybe there 
 is some on-screen guides utility that I can use. I know, I know - grid 
 lines, snapping, aligning, etc. are 
 all to my discretion. However i'm doing a specific graphic work and all i 
need is guides.  Ideas?  Michael 
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ON-SCREEN GUIDES

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello there,
does anyone know of a utility that would put guides on my screen. To explain: 
Frame doesn't have any guides and at times it's needed. Any advanced software - 
Photoshop, Indesign, etc. has rules (or guides) which you can just drag around 
and place wherever you need and align your objects accordingly. Not so with 
Frame. So I thought maybe there is some on-screen guides utility that I can 
use. I know, I know - grid lines, snapping, aligning, etc. are all to my 
discretion. However i'm doing a specific graphic work and all i need is guides.

Ideas?

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ON-SCREEN GUIDES

[Michael Zaichenko]

Yes, you are right with InDesign. I'm using it too. My workflow is all around 
Frame though and I'm having to cope it somehow. Ever so often I have certain 
objects that have to be scaled and placed based on their look, not "digital" 
size and that is where guides come handy. I set off on a small project now to 
create a script that would handle these guides in FM. If someone is interested 
- I'm open to suggestions.

Michael
P.S. this one should reach the list ;-). Thanks for noticing it.



Subject: RE: ON-SCREEN GUIDESDate: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:59:06 -0700From: 
Glenn.Voyles at mitchell.comTo: biozaichenko at hotmail.com



Hi Michael,

I don't think you replied to the whole list with this. 

For a visual reference, I think drawing lines on the master page would work 
best, but you'd have to delete them before printing. 

I just don't see the need for a visual reference. You can align objects and 
accurately set their position on a page. It sounds like you might need a true 
page layout tool such as InDesign. 

Glenn


From: Michael Zaichenko [mailto:biozaiche...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 
August 13, 2008 10:51To: Glenn VoylesSubject: RE: ON-SCREEN GUIDES
Thank you Glenn and all who answered,I appreciate that. My question actually 
was: Is there an on-screen utility that makes these guides. I don't care so 
much whether it is interacting with Frame or not. I need somewhat a visual 
guide rather than interactive/snap-on guides.Hope this makes the search a bit 
narrower. Michael

> Subject: RE: ON-SCREEN GUIDES> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:13:23 -0700> From: 
> Glenn.Voyles at mitchell.com> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com> > Hi 
> Michael,> > I've never bothered with guides in Frame. I use the Object 
> Properties> and specify the top and left values.> > Glenn> > -Original 
> Message-> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com> 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Michael> 
> Zaichenko> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 01:51> To: FrameUsers Users> 
> Subject: ON-SCREEN GUIDES> > Hello there,> does anyone know of a utility that 
> would put guides on my screen. To> explain: Frame doesn't have any guides and 
> at times it's needed. Any> advanced software - Photoshop, Indesign, etc. has 
> rules (or guides)> which you can just drag around and place wherever you need 
> and align> your objects accordingly. Not so with Frame. So I thought maybe 
> there is> some on-screen guides utility that I can use. I know, I know - 
> grid> lines, snapping, aligning, etc. are all to my discretion. However i'm> 
> doing a specific graphic work and all i need is guides.> > Ideas?> > Michael> 
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FRAME CRASH

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello All,
running into a weird problem. Never happened to me. I open Frame (7.1, on XP) 
and when I press Ctrl+Alt+l (to make something lower case) or even when no 
document is open, Frame crashes with the usual error screen. Now when I do 
Ctrl+Alt+shift+l it goes fine.

Does anyone know what the deal might be?

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Character Designer Modification

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello there,
did anyone come across a way to modify the Character Designer (more precise - 
add options to it). Some time ago I managed to change the font (using a Hex 
Editor) in it and the width of the boxes (actually this one was done by someone 
else before me). I.e. I can see Greek text in my dialogs (I can also set it up 
to display russian characters if I wanted to).
Anyhow, what I'm trying to accomplish is to add Vertical and Horizontal Kern 
input boxes to the Character Designer. I know, I know, Pubs-Tools worked out a 
way to fiddle those but I want something more down to earth and not requiring 
additional plugs.
 
Ideas?
 
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Character Designer Modification

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello there,
did anyone come across a way to modify the Character Designer (more precise - 
add options to it). Some time ago I managed to change the font (using a Hex 
Editor) in it and the width of the boxes (actually this one was done by someone 
else before me). I.e. I can see Greek text in my dialogs (I can also set it up 
to display russian characters if I wanted to).
Anyhow, what I'm trying to accomplish is to add Vertical and Horizontal Kern 
input boxes to the Character Designer. I know, I know, Pubs-Tools worked out a 
way to fiddle those but I want something more down to earth and not requiring 
additional plugs.

Ideas?

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BENGALI

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Hi there,
Thought I should ask. Does anyone have a good way of typesetting Bengali 
language. I tried FM8 (with its glorified unicode support) and I'm thoroughly 
disappointed. It does import RTF files alright but messes them quite badly by 
adding additional spaces and characters. Bengali is double byte and I guess 
that's where the problem lies. InDesign messes the files just as bad by 
swapping some characters and decomposing the double bytes into single 
characters.
 
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BENGALI

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Hi there,
Thought I should ask. Does anyone have a good way of typesetting Bengali 
language. I tried FM8 (with its glorified unicode support) and I'm thoroughly 
disappointed. It does import RTF files alright but messes them quite badly by 
adding additional spaces and characters. Bengali is double byte and I guess 
that's where the problem lies. InDesign messes the files just as bad by 
swapping some characters and "decomposing" the double bytes into single 
characters.

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RE: QUICKSILVER

[Michael Zaichenko]

Yep, thanks.
 
Sent them a request for an evaluation. Let's see if it works.
 
Mike



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 you're looking for...  Art   On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Michael 
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QUICKSILVER

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Hello there,

it's a slightly off-topic but does anyone know where I can download an 
Interleaf Quicksilver. I've been googling for half an hour in vain...

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QUICKSILVER

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Yep, thanks.

Sent them a request for an evaluation. Let's see if it works.

Mike



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> biozaichenko at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: 
> QUICKSILVER> > Perhaps it's because the Quicksilver program publisher's name 
> is> Broadvision, not Interleaf?> Look at: http://www.broadvision.com/ and see 
> if that's what you're> looking for...> > Art> > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 
> 1:34 PM, Michael Zaichenko>  wrote:> > Hello 
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IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

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Hello Framers,
here I'm presenting an impossible task. :-).
I have a 300 pages document which consists of 9 sections. I need to generate an 
index for it. Page number format should look like this: X-PP, where X is a 
section number and PP - page number. Had I separate files, that would not be a 
problem - make a book and off you go. I have 1 and I don't want split it for 
certain reasons.
So, is there a way to accomplish this numbering in one file? I know in InDesign 
that is totally possible with Section'ing the document. What about Frame?
 
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RE: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

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Well, what I figured and is working...
 
I added autonumbering to my Section paragraphs. Position of the numbers at the 
end of the paragraph so it doesn't throw the position off-center and tagged 
with a chartag that colors it white. $paranumonly[Section] does work fine in 
generated files providing you have this autonumbering on. Final product looks 
satisfactory and this method allows me to use more files to generate from - 
i.e. cross-indexing.
 
Any other thoughts?
 
Michael



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 Subject: Re: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:48:34 -0400 
  Hi Rob,  This type of building block:  $paranumonly[Section]  does 
 not work in generated files. You will get the closest previous  autonumber 
 to the index marker instead of any that you specify in square  brackets.  
 Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com   Hi 
 Michael,  It is possible - provided that your section numbers are generated 
 using  paragraph autonumbering.  First, if you've not already generated an 
 index for the doc, do so.  Then, in the generated index file, view the 
 references pages. There should  be a page called IX (with a flow called IX). 
 This page controlls the sort  order of the index, and other things like the 
 appearance of index entries.  One of the paras on the page should be:  
 $pagenum  Change it to:  $paranumonly[Section]-$pagenum  Where 
 Section should be changed to the paragraph tag you are using for  your 
 sections. It's a good idea to use a non-breaking hyphen (esc hyphen h)  so 
 that the section and page numbers don't get split in the index.  Regenerate 
 the index and you should get the required X-PP format.  Rob  
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Barcode font

[Michael Zaichenko]

What about the usual OCR fonts? I though that is the standard.

Michael



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> font called 3of9. Works very well.> > Diane Gaskill> > > -Original 
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> font? There doesn't> appear to be one in the usual Windoze offering (or I am 
> not looking> in the right places).> Any advice appreciated.> > Will White> 
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IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello Framers,
here I'm presenting an impossible task. :-).
I have a 300 pages document which consists of 9 sections. I need to generate an 
index for it. Page number format should look like this: X-PP, where X is a 
section number and PP - page number. Had I separate files, that would not be a 
problem - make a book and off you go. I have 1 and I don't want split it for 
certain reasons.
So, is there a way to accomplish this numbering in one file? I know in InDesign 
that is totally possible with Section'ing the document. What about Frame?

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IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

[Michael Zaichenko]

Well, what I figured and is working...

I added autonumbering to my Section paragraphs. Position of the numbers at the 
end of the paragraph so it doesn't throw the position off-center and tagged 
with a chartag that colors it white. <$paranumonly[Section]> does work fine in 
generated files providing you have this autonumbering on. Final product looks 
satisfactory and this method allows me to use more files to generate from - 
i.e. cross-indexing.

Any other thoughts?

Michael



> From: frameexpert at truevine.net> To: Robert.Evans at arc.com; framers at 
> lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL> Date: Thu, 29 May 
> 2008 08:48:34 -0400> > Hi Rob,> > This type of building block:> > 
> <$paranumonly[Section]>> > does not work in generated files. You will get the 
> closest previous > autonumber to the index marker instead of any that you 
> specify in square > brackets.> > Rick Quatro> Carmen Publishing> 
> 585-659-8267> www.frameexpert.com> > > Hi Michael,> > It is possible - 
> provided that your section numbers are generated using > paragraph 
> autonumbering.> > First, if you've not already generated an index for the 
> doc, do so.> > Then, in the generated index file, view the references pages. 
> There should > be a page called IX (with a flow called IX). This page 
> controlls the sort > order of the index, and other things like the appearance 
> of index entries.> > One of the paras on the page should be:> > <$pagenum>> > 
> Change it to:> > <$paranumonly[Section]>-<$pagenum>> > Where "Section" should 
> be changed to the paragraph tag you are using for > your sections. It's a 
> good idea to use a non-breaking hyphen (esc hyphen h) > so that the section 
> and page numbers don't get split in the index.> > Regenerate the index and 
> you should get the required X-PP format.> > Rob> > 
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RE: Barcode font

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What about the usual OCR fonts? I though that is the standard.
 
Michael



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 not looking in the right places). Any advice appreciated.  Will White 
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CRASHING VARIABLES

[Michael Zaichenko]

Dear All,
I have a whole lot of scripts installed. Now I'm running into a problem where 
running of one script influences the other. Example - one script is running 
fine from the editor but when installed, crashes Framemaker almost uniformly. I 
can get it to work once and then, when trying to run it again, it crashes.
I believe I have the same variable repeating in more than one script and those 
crash when installed. Now, looking through about 50 scripts and trying to 
figure out what causes the conflict doesn't seem to be the right way. I know I 
could have set them all up as Locals but now it's too late.
Is there a way to make the script variables unique to this script without 
rewriting the script?

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CRASHING VARIABLES

[Michael Zaichenko]

Dear All,
I have a whole lot of scripts installed. Now I'm running into a problem where 
running of one script influences the other. Example - one script is running 
fine from the editor but when installed, crashes Framemaker almost uniformly. I 
can get it to work once and then, when trying to run it again, it crashes.
I believe I have the same variable repeating in more than one script and those 
crash when installed. Now, looking through about 50 scripts and trying to 
figure out what causes the conflict doesn't seem to be the right way. I know I 
could have set them all up as Locals but now it's too late.
Is there a way to make the script variables unique to this script without 
rewriting the script?

Michael
I'm on FM 7.1, FS 4.01, XP SP2

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RE: Can't print over network

[Michael Zaichenko]

WINXP SP2, FM 7.1, Acrobat 7.0PRO with Distiller 6.0 (I'm not using Distiller 
though but a pdf995).

Michael



 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:31:58 -0400
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 Subject: Re: Can't print over network
 CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 
 What OS on the workstation and server, what version of Frame, what
 version of Acrobat, and are you using the full version of Acrobat or
 just the FM distiller?
 
 On 10/27/07, Michael Zaichenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I have a problem here. I can create a PDF on my hard drive. But when trying 
  to PDF exactly the same file over the network on the server it doesn't work.
 
  Using pdf995 with GS 8.6.
 
  No output happens though printer cue shows the file was spooled and printed.
 
  I have admin rights on the server and on the network.
 
  What might be the bug?
 
  .ini file is configured as
 
  Instal=1
  Quite=0
  Use GPL Ghostsctipt=1
  Autolaunch=0
  Document Name=Name of the file
  User File=Same string as the Document name
  Launch=Same string as the Document name
 
 
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RE: SV: Can't print over network

[Michael Zaichenko]

Jacob,

I'm not using pdf server. What happens is that I can PDF file on my local drive 
and it comes out ok. When I try to PDF it into network folder it messes up. I'm 
not spooling the file onto PDF server - it's a local process but the output 
goes into network folder (or doesn't in this case).

Michael



 Subject: SV: Can't print over network
 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:04:53 +0100
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 Art,
 
 Acrobat Pro may NOT be used for that purpose without a specific server 
 license!
 
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  Emne: Re: Can't print over network
  
  
  'So when you try to debug it and don't use PDF995, does it 
  work with Acrobat Pro?
  
  Art
  
  On 10/29/07, Michael Zaichenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   WINXP SP2, FM 7.1, Acrobat 7.0PRO with Distiller 6.0 (I'm not using 
   Distiller though but a pdf995).
  
   Michael
  
  
  
   
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:31:58 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can't print over network
CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
   
What OS on the workstation and server, what version of 
  Frame, what 
version of Acrobat, and are you using the full version of 
  Acrobat or 
just the FM distiller?
   
On 10/27/07, Michael Zaichenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 I have a problem here. I can create a PDF on my hard drive. But 
 when
   trying to PDF exactly the same file over the network on the 
  server it 
   doesn't work.

 Using pdf995 with GS 8.6.

 No output happens though printer cue shows the file was spooled 
 and
   printed.

 I have admin rights on the server and on the network.

 What might be the bug?

 .ini file is configured as

 Instal=1
 Quite=0
 Use GPL Ghostsctipt=1
 Autolaunch=0
 Document Name=Name of the file
 User File=Same string as the Document name
 Launch=Same string as the Document name


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Can't print over network

[Michael Zaichenko]

WINXP SP2, FM 7.1, Acrobat 7.0PRO with Distiller 6.0 (I'm not using Distiller 
though but a pdf995).

Michael



> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:31:58 -0400
> From: art.campbell at gmail.com
> To: biozaichenko at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: Can't print over network
> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> What OS on the workstation and server, what version of Frame, what
> version of Acrobat, and are you using the full version of Acrobat or
> just the FM distiller?
> 
> On 10/27/07, Michael Zaichenko  wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a problem here. I can create a PDF on my hard drive. But when trying 
> > to PDF exactly the same file over the network on the server it doesn't work.
> >
> > Using pdf995 with GS 8.6.
> >
> > No output happens though printer cue shows the file was spooled and printed.
> >
> > I have admin rights on the server and on the network.
> >
> > What might be the bug?
> >
> > .ini file is configured as
> >
> > Instal=1
> > Quite=0
> > Use GPL Ghostsctipt=1
> > Autolaunch=0
> > Document Name=Name of the file
> > User File=Same string as the Document name
> > Launch=Same string as the Document name
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
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SV: Can't print over network

[Michael Zaichenko]

Jacob,

I'm not using pdf server. What happens is that I can PDF file on my local drive 
and it comes out ok. When I try to PDF it into network folder it messes up. I'm 
not spooling the file onto PDF server - it's a local process but the output 
goes into network folder (or doesn't in this case).

Michael



> Subject: SV: Can't print over network
> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:04:53 +0100
> From: js at grafikhuset.dk
> To: art.campbell at gmail.com; biozaichenko at hotmail.com
> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> Art,
> 
> Acrobat Pro may NOT be used for that purpose without a specific server 
> license!
> 
> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen
> Jacob Sch?ffer  |  Chief Developer
> 
> Paradis All? 22, Raml?se
> DK-3200 Helsinge, Denmark
> Phone: +45 4439 4400
> Web: www.grafikhuset.net
> 
> 
> 
> > -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> > Fra: framers-bounces+js=grafikhuset.dk at lists.frameusers.com 
> > [mailto:framers-bounces+js=grafikhuset.dk at lists.frameusers.com
> > ] P? vegne af Art Campbell
> > Sendt: 29. oktober 2007 20:00
> > Til: Michael Zaichenko
> > Cc: FrameUsers Users
> > Emne: Re: Can't print over network
> > 
> > 
> > 'So when you try to debug it and don't use PDF995, does it 
> > work with Acrobat Pro?
> > 
> > Art
> > 
> > On 10/29/07, Michael Zaichenko  wrote:
> > >
> > > WINXP SP2, FM 7.1, Acrobat 7.0PRO with Distiller 6.0 (I'm not using 
> > > Distiller though but a pdf995).
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:31:58 -0400
> > > > From: art.campbell at gmail.com
> > > > To: biozaichenko at hotmail.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Can't print over network
> > > > CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > > >
> > > > What OS on the workstation and server, what version of 
> > Frame, what 
> > > > version of Acrobat, and are you using the full version of 
> > Acrobat or 
> > > > just the FM distiller?
> > > >
> > > > On 10/27/07, Michael Zaichenko  wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a problem here. I can create a PDF on my hard drive. But 
> > > > > when
> > > trying to PDF exactly the same file over the network on the 
> > server it 
> > > doesn't work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Using pdf995 with GS 8.6.
> > > > >
> > > > > No output happens though printer cue shows the file was spooled 
> > > > > and
> > > printed.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have admin rights on the server and on the network.
> > > > >
> > > > > What might be the bug?
> > > > >
> > > > > .ini file is configured as
> > > > >
> > > > > Instal=1
> > > > > Quite=0
> > > > > Use GPL Ghostsctipt=1
> > > > > Autolaunch=0
> > > > > Document Name=Name of the file
> > > > > User File=Same string as the Document name
> > > > > Launch=Same string as the Document name
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Can't print over network

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello,

I have a problem here. I can create a PDF on my hard drive. But when trying to 
PDF exactly the same file over the network on the server it doesn't work.

Using pdf995 with GS 8.6. 

No output happens though printer cue shows the file was spooled and printed.

I have admin rights on the server and on the network.

What might be the bug?

.ini file is configured as

Instal=1
Quite=0
Use GPL Ghostsctipt=1
Autolaunch=0
Document Name=Name of the file
User File=Same string as the Document name
Launch=Same string as the Document name


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Can't print over network

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello,

I have a problem here. I can create a PDF on my hard drive. But when trying to 
PDF exactly the same file over the network on the server it doesn't work.

Using pdf995 with GS 8.6. 

No output happens though printer cue shows the file was spooled and printed.

I have admin rights on the server and on the network.

What might be the bug?

.ini file is configured as

Instal=1
Quite=0
Use GPL Ghostsctipt=1
Autolaunch=0
Document Name=Name of the file
User File=Same string as the Document name
Launch=Same string as the Document name


Michael

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ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO SCRIPT IN GHOSTSCRIPT

[Michael Zaichenko]

Thanks Jacob,
I downloaded the trial version. To be honest I can't figure it out. Why do I 
need to compare the results of the Ghostscript and Distiller? None seem to give 
a proper result in the first place. I need to know how to add data to the 
Ghostscript config file that would either remove the XUIDs or not embed them 
into the final PDF. I don't know how to do it for Distiller at all and for 
Ghostscript it seems possible.
I completely agree we should not be using these IDs at all, but as of right 
now, majority of my fonts do have them and this causes problems.

Michael



> Subject: RE: ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO SCRIPT IN GHOSTSCRIPT
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:57:01 +0200
> From: js at grafikhuset.dk
> To: biozaichenko at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> On 04 mar 2005 Thomas Phinney of Adobe wrote a public notice regarding this 
> issue(http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/UniqueID.html):
> 
> 
> Neither Type 1 nor OpenType CFF fonts require PostScript UniqueIDs. 
> 
> Back in the mid-80s, when printing might be done on a 57K serial connection 
> and printers might have 8 MHz processors, the caching of device-generated 
> bitmaps enabled by UniqueIDs made a noticeable speed difference. With today's 
> connection bandwidths and printers, the printing speed difference was 
> insignificant in our tests (conducted around 2002), and certainly not enough 
> to outweigh the risks of collisions between UniqueIDs for different fonts and 
> the trouble of tracking the ID numbers. 
> 
> For these reasons, Adobe stopped using UniqueIDs (and XUIDs) in our own 
> OpenType CFF fonts. If we still made Type 1 fonts, we wouldn't use UniqueIDs 
> for them, either. 
> 
> You may of course continue to use UniqueIDs, it's just that they are not 
> necessary. 
> 
> 
> I personally would like this message to be confirmed by other Adobe 
> representatives, since it's in clear conflict with most PostScript tech docs 
> provided by Adobe.
> 
> Anyway, I don't believe that Ghostscript will add anything new though newer 
> GS versions implement improved UniqueID and XUID handling. However, you can 
> test for yourself and easily compare the results of Adobe Distiller (5.X to 
> 8.X) and GPL Ghostscript 8.60 if you try our Grafikhuset Publi PDF 
> superstructure software. Using Grafikhuset Publi PDF as an umbrella for 'PDF 
> creation' you can set up 2 identical queues, one using Adobe Distiller and 
> one using Ghostscript, print to these queues and then compare the PDF results 
> in post-production.
> 
> The Grafikhuset Publi PDF trial version is fully functional for 30 days. 
> Please see http://www.grafikhuset.net/publipdf/ for product details and 
> http://www.grafikhuset.net/publipdf/download.htm if you want to download and 
> test it.
> 
> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen
> Jacob Sch?ffer  |  Chief Developer
> 
> Grafikhuset (House of Graphics)
> Paradis All? 22, Raml?se
> DK-3200 Helsinge, Denmark
> Phone: +45 4439 4400
> Email: js at grafikhuset.dk
> Web: www.grafikhuset.net
> 
> 
> > -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> > Fra: framers-bounces+js=grafikhuset.dk at lists.frameusers.com
> > [mailto:framers-bounces+js=grafikhuset.dk at lists.frameusers.com
> > ] P? vegne af Michael Zaichenko
> > Sendt: 24. oktober 2007 17:22
> > Til: FrameUsers Users
> > Emne: ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO SCRIPT IN GHOSTSCRIPT
> >
> >
> > Hello Framers,
> > This might be slightly OT but here is the issue. I'm PDFing
> > my Frame files with Distiller 6.0. Now and then my publisher
> > comes up with font issues - certain fonts come out wrongly
> > like bold comes out as bold ital or small caps comes out as
> > bold small caps, etc. Tracing it back I narrowed it down to
> > fonts having identical XUIDs. Now, I can of course go ahead
> > and remove IDs on all fonts but this would be a tedious task
> > - I have over 5000 fonts library plus this doesn't seem to be
> > the right solution as in couple instances it didn't help
> > either. My publisher is using Docuprint machines and doesn't
> > have much options of changing fonts there. I'm trying PDF995
> > now and it seems like I have more control over the PDF
> > process with a postscript language. I don't know much of
> > Ghostscript at all - it was barely enough to change the
> > compression method for the images, however it should be
> > possible to remove XUIDs at PDFing step but how? I found a
> > piece of a script that does something with XUIDs but this
> > didn't seem to work at all - the PDF just wouldn't get created.
> >
> > The file I'm editing is called gs_pdfwr.ps - it's part of the
> > pdf995 package.
> >
> > Please HELP.
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ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO SCRIPT IN GHOSTSCRIPT

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello Framers,
This might be slightly OT but here is the issue. I'm PDFing my Frame files with 
Distiller 6.0. Now and then my publisher comes up with font issues - certain 
fonts come out wrongly like bold comes out as bold ital or small caps comes out 
as bold small caps, etc. Tracing it back I narrowed it down to fonts having 
identical XUIDs. Now, I can of course go ahead and remove IDs on all fonts but 
this would be a tedious task - I have over 5000 fonts library plus this doesn't 
seem to be the right solution as in couple instances it didn't help either.
My publisher is using Docuprint machines and doesn't have much options of 
changing fonts there.
I'm trying PDF995 now and it seems like I have more control over the PDF 
process with a postscript language. I don't know much of Ghostscript at all - 
it was barely enough to change the compression method for the images, however 
it should be possible to remove XUIDs at PDFing step but how? I found a piece 
of a script that does something with XUIDs but this didn't seem to work at all 
- the PDF just wouldn't get created.

The file I'm editing is called gs_pdfwr.ps - it's part of the pdf995 package.

Please HELP.

Michael

P.S. I tried a lot of things in the attempt to solve it to no avail. Please do 
not suggest any other handling - I tried them all (sad but true...). I only 
would like to know how to remove XUID when my file gets created.

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RE: ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO SCRIPT IN GHOSTSCRIPT

[Michael Zaichenko]

Thank you,
Unfortunately this is not an option I have very content sensitive files, i.e. 
changing a font would completely destroy them. Even changing Type1 to TrueType 
creates problems. Also, it might work with one or two files - but I have about 
200 completely different files with about 50 different fonts and which one will 
be next giving trouble is hard to tell...

Mike



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 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:30:54 -0400
 Subject: Re: ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO SCRIPT IN GHOSTSCRIPT
 
 I know you don't want any other suggestions, but for the sake of others on 
 the list, I would change one or more of the fonts in my FrameMaker documents 
 and distill them again.
 
 Rick Quatro
 Carmen Publishing
 585-659-8267
 www.frameexpert.com
 
 Hello Framers,
 This might be slightly OT but here is the issue. I'm PDFing my Frame files 
 with Distiller 6.0. Now and then my publisher comes up with font issues - 
 certain fonts come out wrongly like bold comes out as bold ital or small 
 caps comes out as bold small caps, etc. Tracing it back I narrowed it down 
 to fonts having identical XUIDs. Now, I can of course go ahead and remove 
 IDs on all fonts but this would be a tedious task - I have over 5000 fonts 
 library plus this doesn't seem to be the right solution as in couple 
 instances it didn't help either.
 My publisher is using Docuprint machines and doesn't have much options of 
 changing fonts there.
 I'm trying PDF995 now and it seems like I have more control over the PDF 
 process with a postscript language. I don't know much of Ghostscript at 
 all - it was barely enough to change the compression method for the images, 
 however it should be possible to remove XUIDs at PDFing step but how? I 
 found a piece of a script that does something with XUIDs but this didn't 
 seem to work at all - the PDF just wouldn't get created.
 
 The file I'm editing is called gs_pdfwr.ps - it's part of the pdf995 
 package.
 
 Please HELP.
 
 Michael
 
 P.S. I tried a lot of things in the attempt to solve it to no avail. Please 
 do not suggest any other handling - I tried them all (sad but true...). I 
 only would like to know how to remove XUID when my file gets created.
 
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ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO SCRIPT IN GHOSTSCRIPT

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello Framers,
This might be slightly OT but here is the issue. I'm PDFing my Frame files with 
Distiller 6.0. Now and then my publisher comes up with font issues - certain 
fonts come out wrongly like bold comes out as bold ital or small caps comes out 
as bold small caps, etc. Tracing it back I narrowed it down to fonts having 
identical XUIDs. Now, I can of course go ahead and remove IDs on all fonts but 
this would be a tedious task - I have over 5000 fonts library plus this doesn't 
seem to be the right solution as in couple instances it didn't help either.
My publisher is using Docuprint machines and doesn't have much options of 
changing fonts there.
I'm trying PDF995 now and it seems like I have more control over the PDF 
process with a postscript language. I don't know much of Ghostscript at all - 
it was barely enough to change the compression method for the images, however 
it should be possible to remove XUIDs at PDFing step but how? I found a piece 
of a script that does something with XUIDs but this didn't seem to work at all 
- the PDF just wouldn't get created.

The file I'm editing is called gs_pdfwr.ps - it's part of the pdf995 package.

Please HELP.

Michael

P.S. I tried a lot of things in the attempt to solve it to no avail. Please do 
not suggest any other handling - I tried them all (sad but true...). I only 
would like to know how to remove XUID when my file gets created.

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ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO SCRIPT IN GHOSTSCRIPT

[Michael Zaichenko]

Thank you,
Unfortunately this is not an option I have very content sensitive files, i.e. 
changing a font would completely destroy them. Even changing Type1 to TrueType 
creates problems. Also, it might work with one or two files - but I have about 
200 completely different files with about 50 different fonts and which one will 
be next giving trouble is hard to tell...

Mike



> From: frameexpert at truevine.net
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:30:54 -0400
> Subject: Re: ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO SCRIPT IN GHOSTSCRIPT
> 
> I know you don't want any other suggestions, but for the sake of others on 
> the list, I would change one or more of the fonts in my FrameMaker documents 
> and distill them again.
> 
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing
> 585-659-8267
> www.frameexpert.com
> 
> Hello Framers,
> This might be slightly OT but here is the issue. I'm PDFing my Frame files 
> with Distiller 6.0. Now and then my publisher comes up with font issues - 
> certain fonts come out wrongly like bold comes out as bold ital or small 
> caps comes out as bold small caps, etc. Tracing it back I narrowed it down 
> to fonts having identical XUIDs. Now, I can of course go ahead and remove 
> IDs on all fonts but this would be a tedious task - I have over 5000 fonts 
> library plus this doesn't seem to be the right solution as in couple 
> instances it didn't help either.
> My publisher is using Docuprint machines and doesn't have much options of 
> changing fonts there.
> I'm trying PDF995 now and it seems like I have more control over the PDF 
> process with a postscript language. I don't know much of Ghostscript at 
> all - it was barely enough to change the compression method for the images, 
> however it should be possible to remove XUIDs at PDFing step but how? I 
> found a piece of a script that does something with XUIDs but this didn't 
> seem to work at all - the PDF just wouldn't get created.
> 
> The file I'm editing is called gs_pdfwr.ps - it's part of the pdf995 
> package.
> 
> Please HELP.
> 
> Michael
> 
> P.S. I tried a lot of things in the attempt to solve it to no avail. Please 
> do not suggest any other handling - I tried them all (sad but true...). I 
> only would like to know how to remove XUID when my file gets created.
> 
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RE: Keyboard shortcuts stop working

[Michael Zaichenko]

I solved it by assigning different hotkey to each languages. I.e. Turkish - 
Ctrl+Alt+1, Greek - Ctrl+Alt+2, etc. this can be done with regular keyboard 
settings tool in XP.
Michael

 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:39:26 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Keyboard shortcuts stop working
 
 How the heck do you make it stop doing this, though???  I've used the 
 Advanced Keyboard Settings to turn off the keyboard shortcuts for switching 
 languages at least 150 times, and it always turns itself back on.  Is the 
 only solution to uninstall the non-English input languages?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 9:38 AM
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Keyboard shortcuts stop working
 
 Diane Gaskill wrote:
  
  The keyboard shortcut to switch languages was set to Left Alt Shift
  and I apparently was hitting those keys without realizing it.  Next
  time it happens, try that key combination and see if it switches
  back.  If not, click Settings Control Panel  Regional and Language
  Settings  Details and turn off all the languages except English.
  
 
 I have experienced the same thing.  I use the Alt key a lot to activate 
 menu choices.  In Framemaker, that can make for inadvertent language 
 changes when trying to activate the Shift menus -- to get File  Save 
 All Open Files, or Graphics  Pick Up Object Properties, for example.
 
 Photoshop is prone to the same problem, as the Shift and Alt keys are 
 used in many shortcuts.  I've just come to expect it from time to time, 
 and am no longer surprised when my dialog box entries suddenly appear in 
 Cyrillic :-)
 
 sr
 
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 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
 
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Keyboard shortcuts stop working

[Michael Zaichenko]

I solved it by assigning different hotkey to each languages. I.e. Turkish - 
Ctrl+Alt+1, Greek - Ctrl+Alt+2, etc. this can be done with regular keyboard 
settings tool in XP.
Michael

> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:39:26 -0500
> From: acarrico at adamsglobalization.com
> To: srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com
> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Keyboard shortcuts stop working
> 
> How the heck do you make it stop doing this, though???  I've used the 
> "Advanced Keyboard Settings" to turn off the keyboard shortcuts for switching 
> languages at least 150 times, and it always turns itself back on.  Is the 
> only solution to uninstall the non-English input languages?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+acarrico=adamsglobalization.com at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+acarrico=adamsglobalization.com at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 9:38 AM
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Keyboard shortcuts stop working
> 
> Diane Gaskill wrote:
> > 
> > The keyboard shortcut to switch languages was set to Left Alt Shift
> > and I apparently was hitting those keys without realizing it.  Next
> > time it happens, try that key combination and see if it switches
> > back.  If not, click Settings >Control Panel > Regional and Language
> > Settings > Details and turn off all the languages except English.
> > 
> 
> I have experienced the same thing.  I use the Alt key a lot to activate 
> menu choices.  In Framemaker, that can make for inadvertent language 
> changes when trying to activate the Shift menus -- to get File > Save 
> All Open Files, or Graphics > Pick Up Object Properties, for example.
> 
> Photoshop is prone to the same problem, as the Shift and Alt keys are 
> used in many shortcuts.  I've just come to expect it from time to time, 
> and am no longer surprised when my dialog box entries suddenly appear in 
> Cyrillic :-)
> 
> sr
> 
> -- 
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> 
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> 
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CHANGING THE TOOLS PALETTE

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello there,I'm asking this question as I don't think anyone would even think 
to do something I'm trying to do.Do
you know how to access the Tools Palette? I.e. what file monitors it. I
think I can change any menu and add buttons to anything in Frame, but
this one palette is somehow out of my reach. I would love to add couple
features to it though.Please let me know.Michael
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CHANGING THE TOOLS PALETTE

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello there,I'm asking this question as I don't think anyone would even think 
to do something I'm trying to do.Do
you know how to access the Tools Palette? I.e. what file monitors it. I
think I can change any menu and add buttons to anything in Frame, but
this one palette is somehow out of my reach. I would love to add couple
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RE: Advanced Customizing ToolBar in FM

[Michael Zaichenko]

Sorry. I'm using 7.1. I looked at the bugs list and found it there. It offers 
an update patch for 7.2 but this would not fit with my 7.1. I can't switch over 
to 7.2 easily either - I'm having a whole production line set up around it. Do 
you know which file controls this thing or what I could do.Michael Date: Mon, 
13 Aug 2007 11:53:08 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Advanced Customizing ToolBar in FM 
 Michael Zaichenko wrote:  Hello Framers,I'm customizing my toolbar in FM 
and there is one thing I can't get to work.  I added:  3=COMBOBOX, 
SizeMenu, 50  to my FMToolBar.ini file. It does display the catalog of sizes 
however it  doesn't display the current size of the font. It displays the 
first available  size which is 7 pt. And no matter the change in teh actual 
text, it still  displays 7. The rest of the menus I added, respond correctly. 
In FM 8 the same  command does the job fine.  You don't tell us which 
version you're using in which the command  *doesn't do the job fine; but 
there was a known bug in the 6.x and 7.x  versions that prevented FM's own 
toolbar Pgf Format Name list from  correctly displaying the properties of 
selected text.  I suspect your  problem is related to that bug.  
http://microtype.com/FM_bugs.html   --  Stuart Rogers Technical 
Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 
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Advanced Customizing ToolBar in FM

[Michael Zaichenko]

Sorry. I'm using 7.1. I looked at the bugs list and found it there. It offers 
an update patch for 7.2 but this would not fit with my 7.1. I can't switch over 
to 7.2 easily either - I'm having a whole production line set up around it. Do 
you know which file controls this thing or what I could do.Michael> Date: Mon, 
13 Aug 2007 11:53:08 -0400> From: srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com> To: 
biozaichenko at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: 
Advanced Customizing ToolBar in FM> > Michael Zaichenko wrote:> > Hello 
Framers,I'm customizing my toolbar in FM and there is one thing I can't get to 
work.> > I added:> > 3=COMBOBOX, SizeMenu, 50> > to my FMToolBar.ini file. It 
does display the catalog of sizes however it> > doesn't display the current 
size of the font. It displays the first available> > size which is 7 pt. And no 
matter the change in teh actual text, it still> > displays 7. The rest of the 
menus I added, respond correctly. In FM 8 the same> > command does the job 
fine.> > You don't tell us which version you're using in which the command > 
*doesn't" do the job fine; but there was a known bug in the 6.x and 7.x > 
versions that prevented FM's own toolbar Pgf Format Name list from > correctly 
displaying the properties of selected text.  I suspect your > problem is 
related to that bug.> > http://microtype.com/FM_bugs.html> > > -- > Stuart 
Rogers> Technical Communicator> Phoenix Geophysics Limited> Toronto, ON, 
Canada> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325> > srogers phoenix-geophysics com> > "For every 
complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, > and wrong."> > ? 
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Advanced Customizing ToolBar in FM

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello Framers,I'm customizing my toolbar in FM and there is one thing I can't 
get to work.
I added:
3=COMBOBOX, SizeMenu, 50
to my FMToolBar.ini file. It does display the catalog of sizes however it
doesn't display the current size of the font. It displays the first available
size which is 7 pt. And no matter the change in teh actual text, it still
displays 7. The rest of the menus I added, respond correctly. In FM 8 the same
command does the job fine.
Could anyone please shed a light on this one.Michael
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Advanced Customizing ToolBar in FM

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello Framers,I'm customizing my toolbar in FM and there is one thing I can't 
get to work.
I added:
3=COMBOBOX, SizeMenu, 50
to my FMToolBar.ini file. It does display the catalog of sizes however it
doesn't display the current size of the font. It displays the first available
size which is 7 pt. And no matter the change in teh actual text, it still
displays 7. The rest of the menus I added, respond correctly. In FM 8 the same
command does the job fine.
Could anyone please shed a light on this one.Michael
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SOS - CORRUPT FILES

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello Framers,recently I had a machine with a bunch of FM files being backed up 
in progress - crash! It crashed so bad that about half of all of my FM files 
went corrupt and I can't open them anymore.Is there any means to fix them or 
recover or whatever. The files appear all fine - I can open them with notepad, 
etc. but not FrameMaker. They have correct size too.Thoughts?Michael
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SOS - CORRUPT FILES

[Michael Zaichenko]

Thanks Lesley,I tried it. Unfortunately it didn't work. I googled a bit and 
there are couple guys that can do this (recovering) for money. Do you think 
it's worthwhile to send them the files?Michael> Subject: RE: SOS - CORRUPT 
FILES> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:00:57 -0400> From: lsmalley at infocon.com> 
To: biozaichenko at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com> > You can try 
the "heroic open" command: ESC o  H > >   (three key presses: Escape, lowercase 
OH, capital H)> > If it works (no guarantees, unfortunately) immediately save 
the file> to a new directory / name and close it - do not try to edit it.  > > 
Then open the new file the normal way and see what you have.> > Never screw 
around (um edit) with the Frame binary file in a text > editor like  notepad.  
FrameMaker builds a check-sum into the file,> and even if the number of bytes 
doesn't change, you'll almost > certainly mess up the checksum.>  > On Friday, 
June 22, 2007 08:19 PM, Michael Zaichenko wrote:> > | Hello Framers, recently I 
had a machine with a bunch of FM > | files being backed up in progress - crash! 
It crashed so bad > | that about half of all of my FM files went corrupt and I 
> | can't open them anymore. Is there any means to fix them or > | recover or 
whatever. The files appear all fine - I can open > | them with notepad, etc. 
but not FrameMaker. They have correct > | size too. Thoughts? Michael> > - 
Lester > ---> Lester C. 
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Consultants, Inc.  Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712  > Yorklyn, DE  19736  
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RE: FW: Faster scrolling

[Michael Zaichenko]

If I have a graphic intensive job, I save all my graphic as low res copy 
with a low res preview (it's like OPI for FM :-) though not quite) and 
relink my document to this new folder.

Once done, I link it back to regular graphic.
Michael



From: Natalie Bircher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FW: Faster scrolling
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:38:26 -0500



We have graphic-intensive docs and it takes forever to scroll through the
doc. Is there a way to speed things up?



Natalie Bircher

Technical Writer

BackStreet Media

Phone: 320-843-4337

Fax: 320-842-4236

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FW: Faster scrolling

[Michael Zaichenko]

If I have a graphic intensive job, I save all my graphic as low res copy 
with a low res preview (it's like OPI for FM :-) though not quite) and 
relink my document to this new folder.
Once done, I link it back to regular graphic.
Michael


>From: "Natalie Bircher" 
>Reply-To: natalieb at backstreetmedia.com
>To: 
>Subject: FW: Faster scrolling
>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:38:26 -0500
>
>
>
>We have graphic-intensive docs and it takes forever to scroll through the
>doc. Is there a way to speed things up?
>
>
>
>Natalie Bircher
>
>Technical Writer
>
>BackStreet Media
>
>Phone: 320-843-4337
>
>Fax: 320-842-4236
>
>Email:   natalieb at 
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QUESTION FOR FONT GURUS

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello all,
I'm having issues with outputting my file into PDF from FM.
I have two fonts with the same XUID and so they get messed up on the 
Distiller. These two fonts have very different look and so come out messed 
up on the RIP as well - randomly bolded or thinned. I have checked all my 
Distiller and PDF settings and it does boil down to these two fonts. The 
fonts have different names but the IDs are the same.

Is it possible to handle it without re-generating fonts and removing IDs so 
they don't conflict?

It's a bit troublesome to get into the fonts and change them around. My 
publisher is quite far away and it takes time to test the files.

Is there any way to simulate the RIP output without actually outputting 
anything on paper?

I'm using FM 7.1p116 Acrobat Distiller 6.0 (1.6)

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RE: CERTIFIED FRAME USER

[Michael Zaichenko]

Sorry for impoliteness,

I was notified about earlier and ever since I'm trying to add an info line 
to all my 'RE: FM' messages. I believe I could take responsibility for the 
other end too.


Hope, no vital data was lost due to this.

Michael



From: Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CERTIFIED FRAME USER
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:18:13 -0400

Are you aware that both of Joan Thomas's messages that
you replied to on-list were sent to you off-list? Many people
consider responding to another person's off-list message on
a mailing list (or otherwise copying or posting an off-list
communication) to be a fairly serious breach of Netiquette.



From: Michael Zaichenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: CERTIFIED FRAME USER
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 23:21:22 +0200

thanks a lot once more.

Michael



From: Joan Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Zaichenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CERTIFIED FRAME USER
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 07:23:57 -0400

I think it was about $150.




From: Michael Zaichenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sun 6/3/2007 4:25 AM
To: Joan Thomas
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: CERTIFIED FRAME USER



Thanks a lot,
do you know by any chance how much it costs.
Michael


From: Joan Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CERTIFIED FRAME USER
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:31:40 -0400

Hi Michael,

Here is the link to where you can sign up for the test:
http://partners.adobe.com/public/ace/main.html


You can take the test locally, it is proctered by 2 companies.

I became certified last January for Framemaker 7.
I was disappointed to find out that there is not a community or list of
certified individuals available from Adobe (or at least they never
helped me hook up with any of them); they only seem to maintain a list
publically for those people who take the training certification. That
requires additional hours to demonstrate that you have Trainer
experience.

Anyway, good luck on the test!
BTW, the certification is only valid on the version that is their
active one, you have 1 year after they send out Frame 8 to be come
re-certified...sounds like hokieness to me!

:-) joan

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2. PDFs Won't Automatically Open (Karen Castle - CMS Watch)
3. RE: First Time Framer! (Mark Lawrence)
4. RE: First Time Framer! (Steve Rickaby)
5. RE: First Time Framer! (Rene Stephenson)
6. RE: First Time Framer! (Pinkham, Jim)
7. Re: First Time Framer! (Kenneth C. Benson)
8. Re: First Time Framer! (Peter Gold)
9. Re: First Time Framer! (Rene Stephenson)
   10. Tracing the Graphic Lineage (Pinkham, Jim)
   11. Re: Tracing the Graphic Lineage (Art Campbell)
   12. Process for Creating a Structured Frame Application
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   21. Re: First Time Framer! (Steve Rickaby)
   22. Re: Tracing the Graphic Lineage (Art Campbell)
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CERTIFIED FRAME USER

[Michael Zaichenko]

Sorry for impoliteness,

I was notified about earlier and ever since I'm trying to add an info line 
to all my 'RE: FM' messages. I believe I could take responsibility for the 
other end too.

Hope, no vital data was lost due to this.

Michael


>From: "Fred Ridder" 
>To: biozaichenko at hotmail.com
>Subject: RE: CERTIFIED FRAME USER
>Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:18:13 -0400
>
>Are you aware that both of Joan Thomas's messages that
>you replied to on-list were sent to you off-list? Many people
>consider responding to another person's off-list message on
>a mailing list (or otherwise copying or posting an off-list
>communication) to be a fairly serious breach of Netiquette.
>
>
>>From: "Michael Zaichenko" 
>>To: Joan.Thomas2 at computershare.com, framers at lists.frameusers.com
>>Subject: RE: CERTIFIED FRAME USER
>>Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 23:21:22 +0200
>>
>>thanks a lot once more.
>>
>>Michael
>>
>>
>>>From: "Joan Thomas" 
>>>To: "Michael Zaichenko" 
>>>Subject: RE: CERTIFIED FRAME USER
>>>Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 07:23:57 -0400
>>>
>>>I think it was about $150.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Michael Zaichenko [mailto:biozaichenko at hotmail.com]
>>>Sent: Sun 6/3/2007 4:25 AM
>>>To: Joan Thomas
>>>Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>>>Subject: RE: CERTIFIED FRAME USER
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks a lot,
>>>do you know by any chance how much it costs.
>>>Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> >From: "Joan Thomas" 
>>> >To: 
>>> >Subject: CERTIFIED FRAME USER
>>> >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:31:40 -0400
>>> >
>>> >Hi Michael,
>>> >
>>> >Here is the link to where you can sign up for the test:
>>> >http://partners.adobe.com/public/ace/main.html
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >You can take the test locally, it is proctered by 2 companies.
>>> >
>>> >I became certified last January for Framemaker 7.
>>> >I was disappointed to find out that there is not a community or list of
>>> >certified individuals available from Adobe (or at least they never
>>> >helped me hook up with any of them); they only seem to maintain a list
>>> >publically for those people who take the training certification. That
>>> >requires additional hours to demonstrate that you have Trainer
>>> >experience.
>>> >
>>> >Anyway, good luck on the test!
>>> >BTW, the certification is "only valid" on the version that is their
>>> >active one, you have 1 year after they send out Frame 8 to be come
>>> >"re-certified"...sounds like hokieness to me!
>>> >
>>> >:-) joan
>>> >
>>> >-Original Message-
>>> >From:
>>> >framers-bounces+joan.thomas2=computershare.com at lists.frameusers.com
>>> >[mailto:framers-bounces+joan.thomas2=computershare.com at lists.frameusers.
>>> >com] On Behalf Of framers-request at lists.frameusers.com
>>> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 02:00 AM
>>> >To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>>> >Subject: Framers Digest, Vol 19, Issue 31
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>>> >
>>> >1. RE: CERTIFIED FRAME USER (Michael Zaichenko)
>>> >2. PDFs Won't Automatically Open (Karen Castle - CMS Watch)
>>> >3. RE: First Time Framer! (Mark Lawrence)
>>> >4. RE: First Time Framer! (Steve Rickaby)
>>> >5. RE: First Time Framer! (Rene Stephenson)
>>> >6. RE: First Time Framer! (Pinkham, Jim)
>>> >7. Re: First Time Framer! (Kenneth C. Benson)
>>> >8. Re: Fi

CERTIFIED FRAME USER

[Michael Zaichenko]

thanks a lot once more.

Michael


>From: "Joan Thomas" 
>To: "Michael Zaichenko" 
>Subject: RE: CERTIFIED FRAME USER
>Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 07:23:57 -0400
>
>I think it was about $150.
>
>
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>
>From: Michael Zaichenko [mailto:biozaichenko at hotmail.com]
>Sent: Sun 6/3/2007 4:25 AM
>To: Joan Thomas
>Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: RE: CERTIFIED FRAME USER
>
>
>
>Thanks a lot,
>do you know by any chance how much it costs.
>Michael
>
>
> >From: "Joan Thomas" 
> >To: 
> >Subject: CERTIFIED FRAME USER
> >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:31:40 -0400
> >
> >Hi Michael,
> >
> >Here is the link to where you can sign up for the test:
> >http://partners.adobe.com/public/ace/main.html
> >
> >
> >You can take the test locally, it is proctered by 2 companies.
> >
> >I became certified last January for Framemaker 7.
> >I was disappointed to find out that there is not a community or list of
> >certified individuals available from Adobe (or at least they never
> >helped me hook up with any of them); they only seem to maintain a list
> >publically for those people who take the training certification. That
> >requires additional hours to demonstrate that you have Trainer
> >experience.
> >
> >Anyway, good luck on the test!
> >BTW, the certification is "only valid" on the version that is their
> >active one, you have 1 year after they send out Frame 8 to be come
> >"re-certified"...sounds like hokieness to me!
> >
> >:-) joan
> >
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> >Today's Topics:
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> >1. RE: CERTIFIED FRAME USER (Michael Zaichenko)
> >2. PDFs Won't Automatically Open (Karen Castle - CMS Watch)
> >3. RE: First Time Framer! (Mark Lawrence)
> >4. RE: First Time Framer! (Steve Rickaby)
> >5. RE: First Time Framer! (Rene Stephenson)
> >6. RE: First Time Framer! (Pinkham, Jim)
> >7. Re: First Time Framer! (Kenneth C. Benson)
> >8. Re: First Time Framer! (Peter Gold)
> >9. Re: First Time Framer! (Rene Stephenson)
> >   10. Tracing the Graphic Lineage (Pinkham, Jim)
> >   11. Re: Tracing the Graphic Lineage (Art Campbell)
> >   12. Process for Creating a Structured Frame Application
> >   (ActionA at aol.com)
> >   13. RE: Tracing the Graphic Lineage (Combs, Richard)
> >   14. Re: First Time Framer! (Kenneth C. Benson)
> >   15. (no subject)
> >   16. Re: CorelDraw Embedded Graphics (quills at airmail.net)
> >   17. Re: Process for Creating a Structured Frame Application
> >   (quills at airmail.net)
> >   18. RE: Tracing the Graphic Lineage (Pinkham, Jim)
> >   19. RE: Tracing the Graphic Lineage (Pinkham, Jim)
> >   20. RE: CorelDraw Embedded Graphics (Gagne, Bernard (Bolton))
> >   21. Re: First Time Framer! (Steve Rickaby)
> >   22. Re: Tracing the Graphic Lineage (Art Campbell)
> >   23. Re: Process for Creating a Structured Frame Application
> >   (Steve Rickaby)
> >   24. Re: First Time Framer! (Steve Rickaby)
> >   25. RE: First Time Framer! (Gagne, Bernard (Bolton))
> >   26. RE: First Time Framer! (Combs, Richard)
> >   27. SV: CorelDraw Embedded Graphics (Jacob Sch?ffer)
> >   28. RE: First Time Framer! (Dov Isaacs)
> >   29. Getting something ignored during spell checking
> >   (Van Boening, Tammy)
> >   30. RE: Getting something ignored during spell checking
> >   (Grant Hogarth)
> >   31. Re: Getting something ignored during spell checking (John Posada)
> >   32. (no subj

RE: CERTIFIED FRAME USER

[Michael Zaichenko]

Thanks a lot,
do you know by any chance how much it costs.
Michael



From: Joan Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CERTIFIED FRAME USER
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:31:40 -0400

Hi Michael,

Here is the link to where you can sign up for the test:
http://partners.adobe.com/public/ace/main.html


You can take the test locally, it is proctered by 2 companies.

I became certified last January for Framemaker 7.
I was disappointed to find out that there is not a community or list of
certified individuals available from Adobe (or at least they never
helped me hook up with any of them); they only seem to maintain a list
publically for those people who take the training certification. That
requires additional hours to demonstrate that you have Trainer
experience.

Anyway, good luck on the test!
BTW, the certification is only valid on the version that is their
active one, you have 1 year after they send out Frame 8 to be come
re-certified...sounds like hokieness to me!

:-) joan

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Today's Topics:

   1. RE: CERTIFIED FRAME USER (Michael Zaichenko)
   2. PDFs Won't Automatically Open (Karen Castle - CMS Watch)
   3. RE: First Time Framer! (Mark Lawrence)
   4. RE: First Time Framer! (Steve Rickaby)
   5. RE: First Time Framer! (Rene Stephenson)
   6. RE: First Time Framer! (Pinkham, Jim)
   7. Re: First Time Framer! (Kenneth C. Benson)
   8. Re: First Time Framer! (Peter Gold)
   9. Re: First Time Framer! (Rene Stephenson)
  10. Tracing the Graphic Lineage (Pinkham, Jim)
  11. Re: Tracing the Graphic Lineage (Art Campbell)
  12. Process for Creating a Structured Frame Application
  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  13. RE: Tracing the Graphic Lineage (Combs, Richard)
  14. Re: First Time Framer! (Kenneth C. Benson)
  15. (no subject)
  16. Re: CorelDraw Embedded Graphics ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  17. Re: Process for Creating a Structured Frame Application
  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  18. RE: Tracing the Graphic Lineage (Pinkham, Jim)
  19. RE: Tracing the Graphic Lineage (Pinkham, Jim)
  20. RE: CorelDraw Embedded Graphics (Gagne, Bernard (Bolton))
  21. Re: First Time Framer! (Steve Rickaby)
  22. Re: Tracing the Graphic Lineage (Art Campbell)
  23. Re: Process for Creating a Structured Frame Application
  (Steve Rickaby)
  24. Re: First Time Framer! (Steve Rickaby)
  25. RE: First Time Framer! (Gagne, Bernard (Bolton))
  26. RE: First Time Framer! (Combs, Richard)
  27. SV: CorelDraw Embedded Graphics (Jacob Sch?ffer)
  28. RE: First Time Framer! (Dov Isaacs)
  29. Getting something ignored during spell checking
  (Van Boening, Tammy)
  30. RE: Getting something ignored during spell checking
  (Grant Hogarth)
  31. Re: Getting something ignored during spell checking (John Posada)
  32. (no subject)
  33. Re: Getting something ignored during spell checking
  (rebecca officer)
  34. RE: Getting something ignored during spell checking
  (Van Boening, Tammy)
  35. (no subject)
  36. RE: Getting something ignored during spell checking
  (Combs, Richard)
  37. RE: Getting something ignored during spell checking
  (Linda G. Gallagher)
  38. Save EDD As DTD Not Working (Lin Surasky)
  39. Change in PDF job options (Janet Underwood)
  40. Re: Change in PDF job options (Kenneth C. Benson)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 08:39:17 +0200
From: Michael Zaichenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CERTIFIED FRAME USER
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thank you.
I sent a request over to Adobe. Didn't get an answer yet, for days!
Michael


From: Gillian Flato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Zaichenko
[EMAIL PROTECTED],framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: CERTIFIED FRAME USER
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 09:40:20 -0700

You do need to take a test. Go to Adobe's website and do a search on
it.
They give you all the details.


-Gillian


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Michael Zaichenko
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 12:04 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: CERTIFIED FRAME USER

Hello there,
does anyone know what it takes to become a certified Frame specialist?
I

heard I need to take a test