Re: df shows bogus values on gbde'd partitions

2004-07-29 Thread Kentucky Mandeloid Mo.

 In all seriousness, I've never seen this but almost choked when I saw the
 numbers. Hope someone can help. BTW, what does the .bde stand for after
 the slice/partition?


.bde means an attached crypted partiotoin.
See gbde(8) on 5.x.

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Re: Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer package like this ???

2004-07-29 Thread DK
--- Guillermo_García-Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have an old Pentium-MMX 200 Mhz and 40Mb RAM, 1 Gb HD.
 Can you put Windows 2000 on it?
 I don't think so.

MY setup test box is:
Pentium 200Mhz
128MB RAM
16MB TNT Graphics Card
Windows 2000 runs rock solid  fast on my 17inch monitor :)

...  1GIG is more than enough for Windows 2000 with about 600MB to spare



 Did I mention I have no monitor???
 I do not need it, so I do not need a GUI
 
 Can you live without your Windows 2000 GUI? Can you work without it?

Why would I want to... a GUI makes life easier  makes my ability to do work
more productive :)

 
 What if some big company ask you to work for them, but they have UNIX
 systems, are you prepared or can you handle that work?

Any OS will take me about 1 week to get up to speed - if its a MS product,
about 2 days :)


 One more thing, my OpenBSD 3.5 costs me $0, FreeBSD price is $0 too.
 Did you spend the same amount of money on your Windows 2000??

Yea 0$ - all my software is War... *cough* ... donated



Kind Regards,

DK



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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer

2004-07-29 Thread DK
--- Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  - Installing Packages is nice  easy  straight forward from the
 docs(should be more of these!)
  - Installing ports/packages via ftp/net - Forget it!!
  I have barely got BSD running, the last thing I want is connecting a BSD 
  box to my broadband
  connection ?? Does BSD have a default firewall ?? Don't know, having 
  trouble installing stuff let
  alone configuring a firewall via scripts/files
 
 You are probably better off and more secure with an initial install, with
 no additional work or tweaking, of FreeBSD on the net than you would be
 with a MS system with every know fix available.   The system is 
 inherently more secure and in addition - and maybe partially because of
 this - fewer, by far,  attempts at cracking FreeBSD are made than are
 made against MS systems.  Some of this is, of course, because there are
 much fewer FreeBSD systems out there to tempt kiddies.  But, the fact
 that cracking FreeBSD is more difficult contributes to this effect.

So if I do a default install of FreeBSD  then connect to the net for
ports/packages, is there a default firewall running in the background ??



 
 
  Then its going step by step with the install guides  when I try to install
 MySQL, I type #
  groupadd mysql  I get command not found ... ??? no idea, I am following
 the install guides...
  now if I am doing the same as everyone else with a fresh install of BSD,
 why is it no one else
  gets groupadd mysql command not found ??
 
 What does commmand not found sound like it means?
 The shell doesn't know how to find the command you typed in.
 Either you didn't update your search path to include the directory
 it is in or it didn't get installed correctly where it should be.
 Probably the first is true.  So, find out where it should be and
 add that directory to the path.   See man path.

thnx, will check out the path.



 Again, you are much safer on the net with a FreeBSD system.
 Just do it.   I do all my installs over the net.
 Do use appropriate precautions such as ssh instead of telnet and ssl
 protected sites where possible and check md5-s of downloaded files.
 But, don't let it stop you from using it with FreeBSD.


Do you install FreeBSD first  connect to the net for ports/packages, or
install the actual FreeBSD OS from the /stand/sysinstall  select the net ??



 
 It sounds a lot like you may have some processes wanting to check
 themselves via the net upon startup that are holding things up
 during boot.   They will each wait until they time out before
 things move on.   I have several dual-boot machines, WinXP/FreeBSD,
 Win2k/FreeBSd and Win95/FreeBSD and they all boot in about the same
 amount of time with the FreeBSD being maybe a mite faster to get to
 my login than the MS stuff being able to get to a state where I can
 actually do something - eg not just getting the spash screen or background
 displayed.   So, either plug in the net or disable those utilities that
 want to talk and try things again.

My bootup is fine, its the BSD+wmaker running  opening nedit  a cmd prompts
that are slower than Windows 2000 ?? any suggestions as to why ??


Kind regards,

DK



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Major FreeBSD Problem plz help

2004-07-29 Thread Jonathan
Hello, I messed something up in my FreeBSD-5.2.1 box. I ran sysinstall 
in root and installed compat4 and some other compatibility base dir 
thing and it extracted over / i think and now the box wont recognize my 
logins. I am locked out of my own box. Is there a way to reset what I 
did so i wont lose any data. My server is colocated at a datacenter and 
the techs would have to do it. Could you guys possibly explain what 
needs to be done so i wont lose any data and reset what i did. Any help 
would be greatly appreciated
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Re: Going OT: Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have aninstaller package like this ???

2004-07-29 Thread DK
--- Nico Meijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Complaining one or two lines from a tutorial don't work (ie. groupadd 
 mysql) without reading:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/users-modifying.html

thnx, I will read that  see if it helps me solve my groupadd problem,



 If you haven't yet grasped the 'feel' for FreeBSD, why are you trying to 
 drive a Ferrari with it, when you can't even manage a tricycle with it yet?

Is trying to install an app a Ferrari.. gee you guys really don't understand
how dumb point  click it is to install stuff on MS

I cannot remember reading a manual for ever doing stuff in MS. Its just so
logical  straight forward... that you can install  configure 99% of apps
without having to ever read mans/docs/guides



 
  .. I know its hard for people to swallow, but MS Windows IS easier to use
 than BSD/Linux/OSX ...
 
 The only part that is hard to swallow is you putting *BSD, Linux and OS 
 X on one big pile as if they're basically the same thing (to a user, 
 they're not; to a sysadmin, they're not; they're all only Unix-like).

The point I was making was at one point or another, they all came from the same
BSD tree...



  whats the damn command startxfce4 ??? this doesn't work!)...
 
 It worked for me.

Damn Ferrari's!


 Especially as a server: I use CLI only. A GUI just gets in my way.
I am curious, how does a gui get in your way ??




  Gnome starts faster than Windows ?? Start time is not important
 
 To me, it is. My FreeBSD 4.10 booting into xdm, me typing in my username 
 and password and logging in to IceWM *and start working* takes almost 
 half the time it takes my coworkers' Windows 2000 Professional 'puters 
 to boot up at all in a workable state.

I reboot my Windows box once every 3-4 days.. so boot time is irrelevant to
me...



  - I am talking about reaction time of the GUI
 
 Yes, it seems that Windows is snappier.

Thank GOD someone actually can see this :-O


 The X Window System, however, 
 doesn't get in my way when I do other important stuff (backups, network 
 stressing, whatever). Plus, I get to log in from *anywhere* (even a thin 
 client) ans get *my* desktop on *my* pc.

Windows 2000 doesn't get in my way, never crashes... don't know what network
stressing your talking about though...

...I too can log in using VNC  see my desktop :)

 
  Whats the purpose of having to manually set the system to automount ?? as
 opposed to having it as
  a system install default ?? if there is an advantage, I am sure its for the
 0.01% of the user base
 
 How can security be just for 0.01%? Have you ever thought of it this 
 way: I want my computer to do something when *I* say it to!.

Automount is insecure... not for a home workstation thats just exaggerating


 I can tell you that 95% of people who use computers want EASE of USE
 
 I am afraid you are right there. That is why the world of computing is 
 in such a shitty state and we get a new worm or virus every 15 minutes.

Ease of use is not why the world of computing is a shitty place... its the
'genuine' lack of alternatives... BSD too me could be something very great... I
am sure thats what Jobs see's as well

 
  - installable YES, configurable ... you've got to be shitting me :o
 
 Well... I think I just took a cr*p on your front lawn, dude. ;-)
 (that really is a pathetic attempt at a joke; I'm just kidding)

Sickem Rex!


 
  Apple OSX understands this(nice GUI over BSD base - shame about the stupid
 high prices  dumb one
  button mouse)...
 
 Why? The one button mouse adds even more ease of use, no?

No! - why, do you have only ONE finger ??

My MS mouse with 4 Buttons  a scroll wheel allows my one hand to access 6
different functions - the wheel also acts as a 5th button :)


 Don't you get it? You are *free* to choose whatever system you want. If 
 you choose any of the BSD's (for that matter), you are *free* to choose 
 a GUI or the CLI. Also, should you opt for the GUI, you are *free* to 
 choose which one. Also, you are *free* to choose whatever software you 
 additionally would like to run. An editor? You are *free* to choose 
 which one, be it CLI or GUI. A web server? Again, freedom. Choose 
 Apache, choose thttpd, do so *freely*.

Freedom is nice... how about throwing me a line  create a default install so I
don't need to waste so much time configuring  messing around ??



 

 Wow, you hate FreeBSD, Java *and* Linux! ;-)

No, only Java, Linux  Apple  all versions of Windows except 2000 - I actually
like BSD... or at least I am trying too its just that the 'skanky hoe' is a
bit ugly  is in need of a makerover!



Kind Regards,

DK



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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer package like this ???

2004-07-29 Thread DK
--- Joshua Tinnin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  maybe you would like a test of the Apache Web Server on BSD against the
  Apache Web Server on Windows 2000 ?? - I will search the net  get back to
  you on that if you are interested ??
 
  I wonder if people that run web servers on BSD never use a GUI thereby
  saying how fast BSD is... - yes, keep using VI  don't forget to feed the
  Horse :)
 
 Have you taken a look at this lately?
 
 http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html
 
 I don't know how important uptime is to you, but that's a big reason so many 
 people use it.


I agree with you 110% ... thats why I want to install  run a FreeBSD Apache
Server instead of using a Windows Server box running Apache.


Kind Regards,

DK




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netstat -m 'cannot allocate memory'

2004-07-29 Thread lists
Hello,
On 2 of my systems I get the following error while doing netstat -m:
$ netstat -m
netstat: sysctl: retrieving mbstat: Cannot allocate memory
This is a PIV 2ghz, with 1,5 GB of memory
I couldn't find anything about this on the internet.. anyone that has 
any idea whats wrong here ?

Thanks
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Re: Courier-imap + Postfix problem

2004-07-29 Thread Martin Hudec
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 06:16:37PM -0700 or thereabouts, Brent Wiese wrote:
 Sorry, I missed this question and have been away from the list for a bit.
 Hopefully you figured this out by now, but just in case, I've answered
 below.

So was I :(.


  All i got to do now, it seems, is start portmap and fam on
  system boot. I know portmap_enable=YES in rc.conf does
  the trick, but what about starting fam?
 
 Look in /usr/local/etc/rc.d
 
 There will likely be several startup scripts in there for other services.
 Use one as a skeleton to start up fam. Likely, if you installed fam from
 ports, there will already be a startup script in that directory, it'll just
 need to be renamed. Many ports will put the scripts there with a -sample
 extension. Check to make sure that file looks in the right places for your
 daemon and if so, rename it to remove the -sample and it'll start up on
 boot.

There is no such script in ../etc/rc.d. All you have to do is to start
portmap (in rc.conf), and then edit your /etc/inetd.conf and add there:

sgi_fam/1-2 stream rpc/tcp wait root /usr/local/bin/fam fam

and then killall -HUP inetd.

This one should do the trick.


Cheers,

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Re: netstat -m 'cannot allocate memory'

2004-07-29 Thread Steve
what does dmesg, tail /var/log/messages, vmstat, and top tell you
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 Hello,

 On 2 of my systems I get the following error while doing netstat -m:

 $ netstat -m
 netstat: sysctl: retrieving mbstat: Cannot allocate memory

 This is a PIV 2ghz, with 1,5 GB of memory


 I couldn't find anything about this on the internet.. anyone that has
 any idea whats wrong here ?

 Thanks

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Re: netstat -m 'cannot allocate memory'

2004-07-29 Thread lists
/var/log/messages gives:
Jul 29 01:55:56 server /kernel: All mbuf clusters exhausted, please see 
tuning(7).

So I have set in /boot/loader.conf
kern.ipc.nmbclusters=32768
And rebooted the machine but stilll got the same message with netstat -m
dmesg is not giving any weird messages
top:
last pid:  5178;  load averages:  0.22,  0.12,  0.09 
up 0+00:34:27  10:35:01
100 processes: 4 running, 96 sleeping
CPU states: 11.3% user,  0.0% nice,  2.7% system,  0.0% interrupt, 86.0% 
idle
Mem: 131M Active, 444M Inact, 180M Wired, 23M Cache, 163M Buf, 729M Free
Swap: 3072M Total, 3072M Free

# vmstat
procs  memory  pagedisks faults  cpu
r b w avmfre  flt  re  pi  po  fr  sr ad0 ad2   in   sy  cs us 
sy id
2 6 0  238980 767852  439   1   1   0 356   0   0   0  359 3718 168  4  
3 93

Steve wrote:
what does dmesg, tail /var/log/messages, vmstat, and top tell you
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Hello,
On 2 of my systems I get the following error while doing netstat -m:
$ netstat -m
netstat: sysctl: retrieving mbstat: Cannot allocate memory
This is a PIV 2ghz, with 1,5 GB of memory
I couldn't find anything about this on the internet.. anyone that has
any idea whats wrong here ?
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Re: HOWTO Ping LAN???

2004-07-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 01:40:02AM -0400, Hakim Z. Singhji wrote:

 Figure 1
 
 ***
 *  Internet   *
 *24.199.1xx.xx*
 ***
 ~   |
 ~   |
 ***   **
 * Defaut GW   * __ __ *Kids Machine*
 *192.68.0.0   *   *192.68.0.3  *
 ~ FreeBSD 4.10 ** Mandrake 10*
 ***   **
 ~   |
 ~   |
 ***
 *Wrk Station 1*
 *192.68.0.1   *
 *Redhat 9 *
 ***
 
 This is a rough diagram of the network... I would like to ssh, ping,
 etc. the machines behind the default gateway directly (without
 tunneling) from the outside the network (at work for example). Is this
 possible and if so how do I config.  Keep in mind that my default
 gateway is FreeBSD.  I know this may be a complicated project but if you
 could help that would help me greatly.  Many thanks to everyone in advance.

I'm afraid that's not going to be possible with your current network
layout.  If you want all of your machines to be accessible from the
Internet, then you'll need routable addresses on all of your machines.

I know you've said you don't want to use tunnelling, but
unfortunately, that's the only way you can access a private address
space as you have from outside it.  A relatively simple way of doing
that is to ssh into your gateway box, and use the '-L' or '-R'
portforwarding options to create a tunnel to one of the internal
machines, and then ssh or otherwise connect through that tunnel: see
eg.

http://www.linux.ie/articles/tutorials/ssh.php

One other point: you're going to have problems if you're using
192.168.0.0 as the IP number on your FreeBSD machine.  That's the
*network* address, and shouldn't be applied directly to any specific
machine.  If you're running your internal network using 192.168.0.0/24
as the address space, then you have 254 addresses (from 192.168.0.1 to
192.168.0.254) to use for client machines, since 192.168.0.0 (network
address) and 192.168.0.255 (broadcast address) are reserved as part of
the networking setup.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Going OT: Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD haveaninstaller package like this ???

2004-07-29 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi DK,
Thanks for responding. Remember: tongue-in-cheek!
Is trying to install an app a Ferrari.. gee you guys really don't understand
how dumb point  click it is to install stuff on MS
No, you are trying to build/drive/whatever a Ferrari/liner jet/whatever 
while you don't get/comprehend the basics of the system yet. You have 
to learn how to fall / before you learn to fly - [was that a Paul Simon 
quote?]

Yes, I actually do know how easy it is to install stuff on MS. I also 
happen to know how much pain and agony are involved when your 
pointy-clicky app doesn't do what it is supposed to do. You're left in 
the dark, most of the times.

I also know how easy it is for *others* to install stuff on *my* Windows 
workstation without me knowing! ;-)

I cannot remember reading a manual for ever doing stuff in MS.  Its just so
logical  straight forward... that you can install  configure 99% of apps
without having to ever read mans/docs/guides
Please, from now on, leave all comparisons to Windows 2000 out of this 
discussion and you'll get the/my/whatever point. My Sinclair ZX81 runs 
an OS, my MSX 1 and 2 machines (don't have those anymore :-( ) run an 
OS. None of 'em are like Windows 2000. It would be totally daft for me 
to compare these OS's. Agreed, both Windows 2000 and FreeBSD are modern 
day operating systems.

That doesn't mean, however, that they should act and feel the same way. 
You would like that, but that's just your opinion and what you 
specifically want.

The point I was making was at one point or another, they all came from the same
BSD tree...
I'll let you figure that out for yourself:
http://www.levenez.com/unix/
I am curious, how does a gui get in your way ??
Windows:
1. Start
2. Programs
3. Accessories
4. Notepad
(Yes, I could create a shortcut on the Desktop.)
CLI:
1. nano -w [file]
(Yes, I happen to like nano.)
Remember: *I* find that the GUI gets in *my* way. Not everybody's or 
your way.

Thank GOD someone actually can see this :-O
Ohw, that was an obvious one. ;-) Windows was created to perform desktop 
tasks so it has to run snappy at that and most of the time it does.

Windows 2000 doesn't get in my way, never crashes...
Good for you. Windows 2000 is a major step ahead compared to any other 
version of Windows before that. Still, after 18 months of heavy usage 
(Macromedia stuff, Adobe stuff) I need to reinstall pronto.

...I too can log in using VNC  see my desktop :)
And not use your 'puter for anything else. Thanks, but no thanks. I can 
have 20 people use my desktop simultaneously without a hickup. I happen 
to like that.

Automount is insecure... not for a home workstation thats just exaggerating
No, that's a difference of opinion.
Ease of use is not why the world of computing is a shitty place... its the
'genuine' lack of alternatives...
Somehow, somewhere, marketing people and a bunch of programmers decided 
that a computer should be usable by anyone, anytime with their brain 
switched off. Hence, I declare shitty state, for I am confronted with 
the rubble on a day to day basis just as a lot of people on this list, I 
presume.

People all over the world have been happy running Unix workstations, Mac 
workstations and whatnot. It is sad to see a marketing department so 
shrewd, that even elderly people who had no computer at all ran to the 
nearest software retailer to buy a copy of Windows 95 because they were 
made to believe they needed it.

No! - why, do you have only ONE finger ??
I'm sorry. How is having 5 'buttons' easier than having one button? 
Ahw, forget it.

Freedom is nice... how about throwing me a line  create a default install so I
don't need to waste so much time configuring  messing around ??
No. You do that.
No, only Java, Linux  Apple  all versions of Windows except 2000 - I actually
like BSD... or at least I am trying too its just that the 'skanky hoe' is a
bit ugly  is in need of a makerover!
I am truly sorry you do not seem to get it. I feel your opinions are in 
the way of your comprehension.

I think you might want to try running something like Mandrake or Xandros 
first.

Good luck to you... Nico
P.S. Should I feel the urge to add another note to this discussion, I'll 
refrain from making any comparisons to Windows (2000). I don't feel the 
discussion is served by these comparisons.
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Re: Finding Cosultants

2004-07-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:05:13PM -0500, W. D. wrote:
 At 21:10 7/28/2004, Jonathan White wrote:
 Anyone have an idea how to find a FreeBSD consultant in Brooklyn NY?
 
 Thanks
 jonathan
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/consult.html
 http://www.Google.com/search?q=%28brooklyn+OR+nyc++OR+%22New+York%22%29+freebsd
 http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%28brooklyn+OR+nyc+OR+%22New+York%22%29+freebsd

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Re: KDE vs Gnome

2004-07-29 Thread Mark Ovens
Chris wrote:
Sandbox Video Productions wrote:
IF i install both gnome  kde. how do i choose which
one i want to start up. It seem that it only starts
the GUI that was installed last.
		
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Depends.
1. Are you using KDM? If so, you make your choice at the login menu.
2. If not above, edit .xinitrc and comment out one IE:
exec startkde
#gnome-session
#exec startxfce4
#exec startfluxbox
In the above example, KDE starts after entering startx
#exec startkde
gnome-session
#exec startxfce4
#exec startfluxbox
In the above example, Gnome starts ater entering startx
Even easier, if you want to avoid editing ~/.xinitrc everytime you want 
to change between the two, you could add a case statement in ~/.xinitrc 
to handle args to startx(1):

case $1 in
-k) exec startkde
;;
-g) gnome-session
;;
*)  exec startkde
;;
esac
The '*' case being the default if there are no args.
For this to work you have to hack /usr/X11R6/bin/startx and change the line
defaultclient=/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
to
defaultclient=
because if you specify any (client) args then startx(1) just starts X 
and an xterm - no window manager.

The last time I used multiple WMs was in XFree86 3.x and I'm certain I 
didn't have to hack startx so it looks like the behaviour has changed, 
or it maybe that it was just so long ago that I've forgotten :-)

See startx(1) and xinit(1) for details of the default startup behaviour.
HTH
Regards,
Mark

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wireless LAN

2004-07-29 Thread Soo-Hyun Choi
I'm using SONY VAIO Z1 series, and it seems that the
built in wireless LAN isn't working properly. So I got
a PC Card which is WaveLAN (Lucent), a bit old one but
expect to work fine under FreeBSD 5.2.1.

I've enabled 'pccard' at rc.conf file and the kernel
seems to load the 'wi' driver by default.

But the WaveLAN isn't working yet. Could anyone drive
me in a good (complete) reference to get things
working?

Cheers,
SH-





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Re: Courier-imap + Postfix problem

2004-07-29 Thread Gareth Bailey
Hi Martin,

That worked for me! Thanks for the late post anyway.

Gareth

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AW: Major FreeBSD Problem plz help

2004-07-29 Thread Alexander Liebau
yes the system is now in a fresh state (same as if you do a fresh install)
root has no password and all user are gone (the install has overwritten the
passwd-file). just log in on a local console with root (you wont need a
password)

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Hello, I messed something up in my FreeBSD-5.2.1 box. I ran sysinstall
in root and installed compat4 and some other compatibility base dir
thing and it extracted over / i think and now the box wont recognize my
logins. I am locked out of my own box. Is there a way to reset what I
did so i wont lose any data. My server is colocated at a datacenter and
the techs would have to do it. Could you guys possibly explain what
needs to be done so i wont lose any data and reset what i did. Any help
would be greatly appreciated
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Re: wireless LAN

2004-07-29 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 04:04:16AM -0700, Soo-Hyun Choi wrote:
 I'm using SONY VAIO Z1 series, and it seems that the
 built in wireless LAN isn't working properly. So I got
 a PC Card which is WaveLAN (Lucent), a bit old one but
 expect to work fine under FreeBSD 5.2.1.
 
 I've enabled 'pccard' at rc.conf file and the kernel
 seems to load the 'wi' driver by default.
 
 But the WaveLAN isn't working yet. Could anyone drive
 me in a good (complete) reference to get things
 working?
 
 Cheers,
 SH-

Have you configured the wireless interface yet?

See:

man ifconfig
man wi

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould

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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installerpackage like this ???

2004-07-29 Thread David Fleck
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, DK wrote:
... then you maybe right Remko, BSD may not be right for me.
I think it's becoming clear that it's not.  You seem to expect FreeBSD to 
be 'just like MSWindows, but Better!' - but it's *not* like MSWin, at all. 
If you keep expecting to install/adminsiter a UNIX-like system in the same 
way you install/administer a MSWindows system, you will be perpetually 
frustrated and disappointed, because you will *continually* run into the 
ways in which FreeBSD is nothing like Windows, and you will *never* use 
the OS in the way it was designed to be used (because your mind is stuck 
in Windows-land).

If you're seriously interest in *learning* how to use UNIX-like systems, 
take it slowly and ask lots of specific questions.  If you just want to 
rant, you're really wasting everybody's time.

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Devices

2004-07-29 Thread [SKR] Pedro Alonso Lopez
where to get a text howto change the device bus ids.
i searched the handbook but not find anything.
i also tryed google.
does i can set this with a command or do i have to
programm anything?
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password

2004-07-29 Thread John Rackham
hello  ive got a problem login to freebsd. i had a copy  of freebsd given me and when 
i installed it  it  asks me  for 
a login name and password. is there a way of  findin out the login   name and password?

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Re: password

2004-07-29 Thread Steve
login as root

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Subject: password


 hello  ive got a problem login to freebsd. i had a copy  of freebsd given
me and when i installed it  it  asks me  for
 a login name and password. is there a way of  findin out the login   name
and password?

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Re: help make crashes

2004-07-29 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Abidoon Nadeem [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 please find my kernel config file attached
 this does fine when i make depend
 but it fails on make 
 please help
 
 i dont understand whats wrong
 
 i get an error code 1
 

The useful error messages were before that, and I don't have a
-CURRENT box at hand, but a quick look showed me a few problems:  you
commented out scbus and da, but left in some other devices that
require those.  Also, you have both sc and vt enabled; I believe they
are mutually exclusive.
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Re: password

2004-07-29 Thread Sven Pfeifer
Hi,

John Rackham  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hello  ive got a problem login to freebsd. i had a copy  of freebsd
 given me and when i installed it  it  asks me  for 
 a login name and password. is there a way of  findin out the login
 name and password?

yes of course. yust log in as root (this is the system administrator)
and type:

cat /etc/master.passwd | cut -d : -f 1

if you can see the username, that matches your userid, set a new
password for this username by typing:

passwd the_username_you_found_out

HTH


Sven

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Re: limit login attempts with pam

2004-07-29 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Redmond Militante [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 hello
 
 i'm interested in configuring PAM on my 4x system so that a user is locked out of 
 ignored if trying to log in unsuccessfully via ftp within the space of a minute or 
 so. i'm trying to eliminate brute force attacks...
 
 
 can anyone point me towards some good tutorials on how to do this?

Good tutorials?  I don't know, but there is source for the pam_tally
module included in the tree on my -STABLE machine.  

Think it over carefully before enabling this kind of capability,
though; you may be making brute force attacks somewhat harder, but a
denial-of-service attack on specific users will become trivial.

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Re: password

2004-07-29 Thread Richard P. Williamson
To log in as root, 

John Rackham  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hello  ive got a problem login to freebsd. i had a copy  of freebsd
 given me and when i installed it  it  asks me  for 
 a login name and password. is there a way of  findin out the login
 name and password?

User: root
Password:  [leave blank]

Assuming you had the installation media and went through 
sysinstall et al, then you should be able to use the 
name/password that you entered during that process.  The 
commands that Sven give below will tell you what the user 
name was, but if you can't remember what the password was,
you'll need to change it to a new one.  

Once in, it is recommended you change the root password from
[nothing] to [something], if [nothing] is still the root password:

# passwd
Changing local password for root.
New password: [something]
Retype the password: [something]
passwd: updating the database...
passwd: done
#

If you ever need to change the root password again, you'll need to
log in using single user mode.  The handbook will explain how to
do that.  If you've logged in as a user, then passwd works to 
change that user's local password.  If you're logged in as root,
you can change the password of a user using 'passwd -l [username]'
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html
and '# man passwd' can help out here.

HTH,
rip


At 13:40 29/07/2004. Sven Pfeifer had this to say:
Hi,

John Rackham  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hello  ive got a problem login to freebsd. i had a copy  of freebsd
 given me and when i installed it  it  asks me  for 
 a login name and password. is there a way of  findin out the login
 name and password?

yes of course. yust log in as root (this is the system administrator)
and type:

cat /etc/master.passwd | cut -d : -f 1

if you can see the username, that matches your userid, set a new
password for this username by typing:

passwd the_username_you_found_out

HTH


Sven

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openssl/pem.h references undefined?

2004-07-29 Thread Richard P. Williamson
Hello!

I'm trying to port some linux code to FreeBSD (4.10).  One of the
files makes use of PEM_[read|write]_RSAPublicKey(...).

The linux version used a seven-param list for both read and
write, but the FreeBSD one seems to only require a two param
list for the write version:

#ifdef _FREEBSD
  PEM_write_RSAPublicKey(f, rsa);
#else
  PEM_write_RSAPublicKey(f, rsa, NULL, NULL, 0, 0, Zapf);
#endif

I know this, because the precompiler complained about differing
param counts during macro expansion.

When I compile with the above change now, however, I get:

...
/tmp/cc75DK8C.o: In function `MakeKey':
/usr/jail/cvswork/dev/firmware/cli/include/authfunctions.h:96: undefined reference to 
`PEM_write_RSAPrivateKey'
/usr/jail/cvswork/dev/firmware/cli/include/authfunctions.h:103: undefined reference to 
`PEM_write_RSAPublicKey'
...

What am I missing?  I tried reinstalling openssl just in case, 
but that didn't change the behavior during the build, and the
handbook says it's part of the base install anyway.

man pem states openssl/pem.h should be included, and I'm doing that.

rip



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freeBSD How to you set the prompt

2004-07-29 Thread Dan
Where and how do you set the prompt to show what user name that  your  on IE ROOT or 
user johndoe.
Eample of what the end results I would like to see.

# router1.pdx/chatusa.com user johndoe.



Dan
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Re: freeBSD How to you set the prompt

2004-07-29 Thread David Fleck
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Dan wrote:
Where and how do you set the prompt to show what user name that  your  on IE ROOT or 
user johndoe.
Eample of what the end results I would like to see.
# router1.pdx/chatusa.com user johndoe.
It depends on what shell you're using.  Read the man page for that shell, 
searching for information on the shell variable 'prompt'.

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Updating 5.2.1 Release #

2004-07-29 Thread Scott
Hi,

I completed my first update (upgrade?) of a 5.2.1 fresh
FreeBSD install. I followed a couple how-to's, the handbook,
and Absolute BSD as my guides. My machine is a 1.8Ghz AMD.

Here is my supfile:

*default host=cvsup15.us.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
src-all
ports-all tag=.

Everything seemed to go without a hitch. I did:

1. cvsup mysupfile
2. make buildworld
3. make buildkernel
4. make installkernel
5. make installworld

The system is up and seems to be running fine, but here's my
question:

uname -a shows:
FreeBSD 5.2.1-Release #0:

I was expecting the release (version, revision# ?) number to
be greater than #0. I think I've seen where the latest
revision is #9 or so? Do I need to tell it to get the latest
revision somehow? Do I need to change the cvs tag= to
something else to get up to date?

Thanks for your time,
Scott




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Re: password

2004-07-29 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 hello  ive got a problem login to freebsd. i had a copy  of freebsd 
 given me and when i installed it  it  asks me  for 
 a login name and password. is there a way of  findin out the login   
 name and password?

Well, if you are right in the middle of the installation process,
then it is asking you to make up a password.   During the installation
it asks for a password for root.  You should normally create one
you can remember, but that is hard to guess.

If you are past that stage and you did not create a password for root
during installation, then probably you can log in using 'root' for
the id and without any password (eg just hit return/enter without typing
any password).   If that works, then change the root password right away 
since root has complete control over the whole system.  You wouldn't want 
to leave that sitting around for the cat to wander over the keys at a bad 
time (or an attacker to try out).

If that doesn't work, then a password was probably created during the
install, but you don't remember it.   In that case, and if you have
access to the console,  you need to do a boot to single user and 
then change the root password and also maybe create a working account
for yourself.   How to do these things are well covered in the
FreeBSD handbook which is available online on the FreeBSD website.

jerry


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Re: Updating 5.2.1 Release #

2004-07-29 Thread Ezequiel
Change this:
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE

for this
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1

On this way it will download the release 5.2.1 with the last revision

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From: Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 11:05 AM
Subject: Updating 5.2.1 Release #


Hi,

I completed my first update (upgrade?) of a 5.2.1 fresh
FreeBSD install. I followed a couple how-to's, the handbook,
and Absolute BSD as my guides. My machine is a 1.8Ghz AMD.

Here is my supfile:

*default host=cvsup15.us.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
src-all
ports-all tag=.

Everything seemed to go without a hitch. I did:

1. cvsup mysupfile
2. make buildworld
3. make buildkernel
4. make installkernel
5. make installworld

The system is up and seems to be running fine, but here's my
question:

uname -a shows:
FreeBSD 5.2.1-Release #0:

I was expecting the release (version, revision# ?) number to
be greater than #0. I think I've seen where the latest
revision is #9 or so? Do I need to tell it to get the latest
revision somehow? Do I need to change the cvs tag= to
something else to get up to date?

Thanks for your time,
Scott




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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer

2004-07-29 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 --- Joshua Tinnin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   maybe you would like a test of the Apache Web Server on BSD against the
   Apache Web Server on Windows 2000 ?? - I will search the net  get back to
   you on that if you are interested ??
  
   I wonder if people that run web servers on BSD never use a GUI thereby
   saying how fast BSD is... - yes, keep using VI  don't forget to feed the
   Horse :)
  
  Have you taken a look at this lately?
  
  http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html
  
  I don't know how important uptime is to you, but that's a big reason so many 
  people use it.
 
 
 I agree with you 110% ... thats why I want to install  run a FreeBSD Apache
 Server instead of using a Windows Server box running Apache.

So, you want a reliable server, not a MS toy.   One of the reasons
FreeBSD is so much more of a reliable server is because it DOESN'T have
all that MS stuff on it.

jerry
 
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 DK
 
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XFree86 4.4 port (for Chipset CLE266/VT8235 Graphics) - timescale?

2004-07-29 Thread Owen.G
I also bought a EPIA Mini-ITX in early June before seeing the posting 
that the video wasn't supported by X on FreeBSD (Linux - supposedly yes, 
BSD not yet).

The previous responder (thanks Erik) said, the CLE266 chipset will be 
supported in the port of XFree86 4.4

I just had a look at the FreeBSD Ports page:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi
and there's no sign of XFree86 4.4 yet.
Questions:
1, Does anybody know the timescale of the port for XFree86 4.4?
2, Will the port of XFree86 4.4 be important enough that it will be 
announced on the freebsd-announce mailing list?

(I did get an X windows manager running on the VGA S server but it was 
too low resolution to be useful.)

Thanks in anticipation,
Owen

On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 09:20:06AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am trying to set up a windows manager on a EPIA Mini-ITX M6000
 board without any success.

 From the manual:
 Chipset CLE266/VT8235 Graphics: VIA Castlerock AGP

 From dmesg.boot:
 agp0: VIA Generic host to PCI bridge mem
 0xd000-0xd7ff at device 0.0 on pci0
 pci1: display, VGA at device 0.0 (no driver
 attached)
 vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem
 0xa-0xb on isa0

 Any hope?
 --
 The via driver is available only from XFree86 4.4 (or in the x.org
 release.)  The XFree86 port in FreeBSD has not yet been updated to
 4.4, and the x.org ports are not quite finished yet.
 In other words: No, the via driver is not available yet, but once the
 X ports have been updated to the latest release it should work.

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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer

2004-07-29 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 --- Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   - Installing Packages is nice  easy  straight forward from the
  docs(should be more of these!)
   - Installing ports/packages via ftp/net - Forget it!!
   I have barely got BSD running, the last thing I want is connecting a BSD 
   box to my broadband
   connection ?? Does BSD have a default firewall ?? Don't know, having 
   trouble installing stuff let
   alone configuring a firewall via scripts/files
  
  You are probably better off and more secure with an initial install, with
  no additional work or tweaking, of FreeBSD on the net than you would be
  with a MS system with every know fix available.   The system is 
  inherently more secure and in addition - and maybe partially because of
  this - fewer, by far,  attempts at cracking FreeBSD are made than are
  made against MS systems.  Some of this is, of course, because there are
  much fewer FreeBSD systems out there to tempt kiddies.  But, the fact
  that cracking FreeBSD is more difficult contributes to this effect.
 
 So if I do a default install of FreeBSD  then connect to the net for
 ports/packages, is there a default firewall running in the background ??

There is one there, but you have to turn it on.  Actually, there are
two of them there.   By the way, firewalls are useful tools, but
they are not the be-allend-all, last word in security.
  
  
   Then its going step by step with the install guides  when I try to install
  MySQL, I type #
   groupadd mysql  I get command not found ... ??? no idea, I am following
  the install guides...
   now if I am doing the same as everyone else with a fresh install of BSD,
  why is it no one else
   gets groupadd mysql command not found ??
  
  What does commmand not found sound like it means?
  The shell doesn't know how to find the command you typed in.
  Either you didn't update your search path to include the directory
  it is in or it didn't get installed correctly where it should be.
  Probably the first is true.  So, find out where it should be and
  add that directory to the path.   See man path.
 
 thnx, will check out the path.

Also, note the comment by whoever it was that said that groupadd is not
the right thing to run for FreeBSD installations according to the docs.
I haven't worked on that so don't personally know.

  Again, you are much safer on the net with a FreeBSD system.
  Just do it.   I do all my installs over the net.
  Do use appropriate precautions such as ssh instead of telnet and ssl
  protected sites where possible and check md5-s of downloaded files.
  But, don't let it stop you from using it with FreeBSD.
 
 Do you install FreeBSD first  connect to the net for ports/packages, or
 install the actual FreeBSD OS from the /stand/sysinstall  select the net ??

I download the mini-iso (miniinst) CD and install everything, OS, 
source, ports over the net.

  It sounds a lot like you may have some processes wanting to check
  themselves via the net upon startup that are holding things up
  during boot.   They will each wait until they time out before
  things move on.   I have several dual-boot machines, WinXP/FreeBSD,
  Win2k/FreeBSd and Win95/FreeBSD and they all boot in about the same
  amount of time with the FreeBSD being maybe a mite faster to get to
  my login than the MS stuff being able to get to a state where I can
  actually do something - eg not just getting the spash screen or background
  displayed.   So, either plug in the net or disable those utilities that
  want to talk and try things again.
 
 My bootup is fine, its the BSD+wmaker running  opening nedit  a cmd prompts
 that are slower than Windows 2000 ?? any suggestions as to why ??

Don't know about that.  I have never used nedit.  But, the editors I
use pop up instantly - even when I am editing over the net.

jerry

 
 Kind regards,
 
 DK
 
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Re: Updating 5.2.1 Release #

2004-07-29 Thread Puna Tannehill
Scott wrote:
Hi,
I completed my first update (upgrade?) of a 5.2.1 fresh 
FreeBSD install. I followed a couple how-to's, the handbook, 
and Absolute BSD as my guides. My machine is a 1.8Ghz AMD.

Here is my supfile:
*default host=cvsup15.us.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
src-all
ports-all tag=.
Everything seemed to go without a hitch. I did:
1. cvsup mysupfile
2. make buildworld
3. make buildkernel
4. make installkernel
5. make installworld
The system is up and seems to be running fine, but here's my 
question:

uname -a shows:
FreeBSD 5.2.1-Release #0:
I was expecting the release (version, revision# ?) number to 
be greater than #0. I think I've seen where the latest 
revision is #9 or so? Do I need to tell it to get the latest 
revision somehow? Do I need to change the cvs tag= to 
something else to get up to date?
I thought the #number indicated the number of times the server has been rebooted 
based upon the last time the kernel was recompiled.  Being that it is #0, it was 
 your first book.  Reboot the machine and check the number again.

Puna

Thanks for your time,
Scott

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Re: netstat -m 'cannot allocate memory'

2004-07-29 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jul 29), lists said:
 Hello,
 
 On 2 of my systems I get the following error while doing netstat -m:
 
 $ netstat -m
 netstat: sysctl: retrieving mbstat: Cannot allocate memory
 
 This is a PIV 2ghz, with 1,5 GB of memory

That means you have rebuilt your kernel and now kernel and world are out of
sync.  At minimum, rebuild libkvm and netstat.

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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer package like this ???

2004-07-29 Thread Ruben de Groot

I just need to set the record straight on this automount issue you keep
ranting about...

On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:53:30PM -0700, DK typed:

[...]

   Whats the purpose of having to manually set the system to automount ??
   as opposed to having it as a system install default ?? if there is an
   advantage, I am sure its for the 0.01% of the user base
  
  It's more in the range of 99.9%.  Automounting can be annoying like hell
  when you happen to accidentally insert media in your drives.  It can
  also be insecure if you don't want anyone to use the machine you've
  installed to mount CD-ROMs, floppies or other media of their choise.
 
 Accidently ?? what ?? Like you were walking down a hall way, tripped  slipped
  accidenlty shoved a CD into the drive :))

No, more like you put a cd with sensitive data on it in the wrong tray
of your 40+ identical rackmounted servers, exposing it to the wrong users
on the wrong server.

 I can put a CD into Windows 2000  it has never been accessed unless I
 explicitly do it. - I don't see the problem ??

You keep on measuring FreeBSD by MS Windows standards. Wrong. FreeBSD (and
Unixlike OSses in general) are designed to be truly *multi-user* operating
systems and their default settings will reflect that. Especially FreeBSD,
which still is mostly used as a server OS, servicing many users.

 - as for automounting, I think you are confusing this with AutoRUN for CD's
 AFAIK - you cannot disable automounting of Floppys/CD in Windows 2000

And they call this a server platform? What a joke!

Ruben
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Re: Updating 5.2.1 Release #

2004-07-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 09:37:35AM -0500, Puna Tannehill wrote:
 Scott wrote:

 uname -a shows:
 FreeBSD 5.2.1-Release #0:
 
 I was expecting the release (version, revision# ?) number to 
 be greater than #0. I think I've seen where the latest 
 revision is #9 or so? Do I need to tell it to get the latest 
 revision somehow? Do I need to change the cvs tag= to 
 something else to get up to date?
 
 I thought the #number indicated the number of times the server has been 
 rebooted based upon the last time the kernel was recompiled.  Being that it 
 is #0, it was your first book.  Reboot the machine and check the number 
  again.

I believe that the #n is the number of times the kernel has been
re-compiled since the last time the system was installed.  It's
probably not a very interesting datum except to kernel hackers who
need to do a lot of recompiling.

What the original poster was thinking of is the patchlevel that gets
incremented every time a new security (or nowadays: errata) patch is
applied to any of the -RELEASE branches.  That modifies the OS name
(ie. the output of 'uname -r'), so instead of:

5.2.1-RELEASE

it says (at the latest count):

5.2.1-RELEASE-p9

See /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh for the file that controls all that.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer

2004-07-29 Thread Bill Moran
Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  My bootup is fine, its the BSD+wmaker running  opening nedit  a cmd prompts
  that are slower than Windows 2000 ?? any suggestions as to why ??

This is ridiculous.  You're getting lousy help because most of your email
sounds like a Troll ... and the Troll-feeders are answering your questions
instead of people who know how to help.  (Nothing against the Troll-feeders,
they're just trying to help as well ... they just don't know any better)

My FreeBSD system, using Gnome (which is a system hog) is faster than when
Windows NT was installed ... and I _KNOW_ NT is faster than W2K.  So, if
you're honestly having speed problems, then something is wrong.

So, you need to do the proper steps to figure out what's wrong with your
system.  Have you pasted a dmesg?  My first guess would be that your
hardware is a little off, and Windows has drivers for it but FreeBSD doesn't,
thus you get expected performance on Windows, but crap on FreeBSD.

Also, are you saying that you run nedit on both Windows and FreeBSD and it's
faster on Windows?  Or are you comparing nedit to an apple?

Also, have you monitored various system stuff?  Run top, systat, etc
while starting the programs in an attempt to isolate the bottleneck.

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Re: Updating 5.2.1 Release #

2004-07-29 Thread Scott

  (   What the original poster was thinking of is
  (   the patchlevel that gets incremented every
  (   time a new security (or nowadays: errata)
  (   patch is applied to any of the -RELEASE
  (   branches.  That modifies the OS name (ie.
  (   the output of 'uname -r')

That is exactly right Matthew. I thought (assumed) that #0 in the uname -a output 
was the patchlevel of the OS. At this point in my life, I'm not so concerned about 
what that number is, but rather I am running the most secure and stable patchlevel 
available.

So if I set my cvs tag as Ezequiel (thank you) suggested:
change: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
to: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1
That will get me the latest patches?

I'll make that change and rebuild again today.

Thanks all for your help. :)
Scott

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FreeBSD on IBM x360 type hardware

2004-07-29 Thread Danny
Has anyone had success running FreeBSD on an IBM x360 type server?

x4 2Ghz Xeon, 2MB L3
2GB PC1600 DDR
IBM ServerRAID 4Mx Ultra160 SCSI Controller
IBM EXP300 Storage Expansion Unit
Quantum SDLT 220 Tape Drive

I will go into more detail with the specs, but I was wondering if
anyone has had success with any xSeries IBM servers with FreeBSD
installed?

Thank you,

..D
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Re: Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installerpackage like this ???

2004-07-29 Thread Micheal Patterson

- Original Message - 
From: DK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Guillermo_García-Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 1:36 AM
Subject: Re: Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an
installerpackage like this ???


snip

 
  Can you live without your Windows 2000 GUI? Can you work without it?

 Why would I want to... a GUI makes life easier  makes my ability to do
work
 more productive :)

Not really. Your windows 2k pro doesn't allow for remote administration
unless you have pc anywhere running, or it's connected to a domain to allow
remote management. If your gui crashes, the box dies. If IE crashes to far,
the box will die. No pretty gui for you then.

  What if some big company ask you to work for them, but they have UNIX
  systems, are you prepared or can you handle that work?

 Any OS will take me about 1 week to get up to speed - if its a MS product,
 about 2 days :)

You've been playing with FreeBSD 4.10 for 6 days, and still have issues.
You've played with 4.5 in the past also. Yet you still have problems.


  One more thing, my OpenBSD 3.5 costs me $0, FreeBSD price is $0 too.
  Did you spend the same amount of money on your Windows 2000??

 Yea 0$ - all my software is War... *cough* ... donated

You should be used to the problems of not having docs on the software that's
donated to your hard drive then.  Except in this case, the docs ARE freely
available, it would just appear that you decided to not use them and run
head long into something you know little to nothing about. Not that there's
anything wrong with that, but it's just like buying a car and not knowing it
needs gas. First thing you'd do is blame the car for not running when if you
look at the owners manual, it will plainly tell you that fuel is required.


 Kind Regards,

 DK



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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer

2004-07-29 Thread Micheal Patterson


- Original Message - 
From: DK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 1:55 AM
Subject: Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer


 --- Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   - Installing Packages is nice  easy  straight forward from the
  docs(should be more of these!)
   - Installing ports/packages via ftp/net - Forget it!!
   I have barely got BSD running, the last thing I want is connecting a
BSD
   box to my broadband
   connection ?? Does BSD have a default firewall ?? Don't know, having
   trouble installing stuff let
   alone configuring a firewall via scripts/files
 
  You are probably better off and more secure with an initial install,
with
  no additional work or tweaking, of FreeBSD on the net than you would be
  with a MS system with every know fix available.   The system is
  inherently more secure and in addition - and maybe partially because of
  this - fewer, by far,  attempts at cracking FreeBSD are made than are
  made against MS systems.  Some of this is, of course, because there are
  much fewer FreeBSD systems out there to tempt kiddies.  But, the fact
  that cracking FreeBSD is more difficult contributes to this effect.

 So if I do a default install of FreeBSD  then connect to the net for
 ports/packages, is there a default firewall running in the background ??


No, but then again, there are hardly any services either. See, unlike
Windows, you're not going to have the same issues with trojans and breeches.
If it's just you, and you've not added anyone else, you're pretty damn safe.
Root can't log in from remote at all unless you specifically change the
options that would allow it.

snip


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Re: HOWTO Ping LAN???

2004-07-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 10:27:05AM -0400, Hakim Singhji wrote:
 Hi Matt,
 
 You say that the only way I will be able to connect to my network is by tunneling.  
 This is not what I want to do, I thought I may be able to SSH, Telnet, www, etc. 
 from the outside to my default gateway and have the gateway pass SSH, Telnet, 
 www., or any other request to the machine on the private network by including the 
 localhost.defaultgateway.domain.org or something to that affect.
 
 Does NAT Overloading only go one way???


Essentially, yes.  What you're after is called 'port forwarding'
(which is actually a class of tunnelling methods).

What you can't do in the sort of setup you describe is ssh(1) to the
gateway machine and have it connect you to some arbitrary machine on
your internal network.  The outside world doesn't know anything
about the arrangement of your private network: which machine should
the gateway box forward the incoming connection to?  All it sees is a
TCP syn packet sent to port 22 on its internet interface.

Going the other way round -- where the internal machine initiates the
connection -- works because you can match up the response 'ACK' packet
to the outgoing 'SYN' packet

In order to allow remote access to your private machines you've
somehow got to introduce a mechanism to permit the gateway machine to
know which of the internal machines you want to connect to.  You can
set up non-standard ports on the NAT gateway to forward connections to
internal machines: eg.

 Port:  Destination:
 --
 2201   192.168.0.1:22
 2202   192.168.0.2:22
 2203   192.168.0.3:22

(see natd(8) 

but a) you'ld have to do that for each service on each machine you
want connectivity to, and b) it's not going to work in the specific
case of ssh(1) specifically, because ssh(1) attempts to verify the
identity of the host it connects to against the host keys presented to
it during the SSH connection. 

Probably the easiest thing to do is log into your gateway machine via
ssh(1) and then take a second hop from there to your internal
machines.  telnet(1) is generally a bad idea for security
reasons. ping(8) which operates via ICMP echo request is completely
out: ICMP doesn't have the concept of port numbers at all, so there's
no way to clue the NAT gateway into which machine you want to
communicate with.

Cheers,

Matthew

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RE: Updating 5.2.1 Release #

2004-07-29 Thread Cedric GROSS
 

 Matthew Seaman
 On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 09:37:35AM -0500, Puna Tannehill wrote:
  Scott wrote:
 
  uname -a shows:
  FreeBSD 5.2.1-Release #0:
  
  I was expecting the release (version, revision# ?) number to 
  be greater than #0. I think I've seen where the latest 
  revision is #9 or so? Do I need to tell it to get the latest 
  revision somehow? Do I need to change the cvs tag= to 
  something else to get up to date?
  
  I thought the #number indicated the number of times the 
 server has been 
  rebooted based upon the last time the kernel was 
 recompiled.  Being that it 
  is #0, it was your first book.  Reboot the machine and 
 check the number 
   again.
 
 I believe that the #n is the number of times the kernel has been
 re-compiled since the last time the system was installed.  It's
 probably not a very interesting datum except to kernel hackers who
 need to do a lot of recompiling.
 
 What the original poster was thinking of is the patchlevel that gets
 incremented every time a new security (or nowadays: errata) patch is
 applied to any of the -RELEASE branches.  That modifies the OS name
 (ie. the output of 'uname -r'), so instead of:

So what is the diff between uname -r and uname -v, which produce for me
:

Uname -r : 5.2.1-RELEASE
Uname -v : FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jun 14 14:52:08 CEST 2004
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CNV_TOTAL

Extract from man page :
-r Write the current release level of the operating system
-v  Write the version level of this release of the operating system

So that's mean that there are several Release ( as relesase level) and
inside each release level there are several version level, am'I
understanding well ?

Cedric.
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Re: Updating 5.2.1 Release #

2004-07-29 Thread Scott
Ok, I just did as suggested:

  (   Change this:
  (   *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
  (
  (   for this
  (   *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1

and ran cvsup again.

This time, I successfully and quickly deleted every thing
under /usr/src.

There must be something wrong with my cvs tag. I read the
notice in the handbook that says Be very careful to specify
any tag= fields correctly. Some tags are valid only for
certain collections of files. If you specify an incorrect or
misspelled tag, CVSup will delete files which you probably
do not want deleted.

Here is my supfile that just deleted everything under
/usr/src:

*default host=cvsup15.us.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
src-all
ports-all tag=.

To keep up to date with 5.2.1, is that the correct tag?

I'm reinstalling now . . .

Thanks,
Scott


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xsp server

2004-07-29 Thread Osmany Guirola Cruz
i am trying to compile xsp server 1.0 on my freebsd 4.10 STABLE 
i have installed mono and mod_mono ...  i do the configuration process whitout 
problem then i do this

#make
Making all in doc
Making all in server
/usr/local/bin/mcs -debug+ -debug:full -nologo -r:System.Web.dll 
-r:Mono.Posix.dll /d:MODMONO_SERVER /out:mod-mono-server.exe
error CS2008: No files to compile were specified
Compilation failed: 1 error(s), 0 warnings
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/home/osmany/mono/xsp-1.0/server.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/home/osmany/mono/xsp-1.0.

then i do this

#gmake
Making all in doc
gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/home/osmany/mono/xsp-1.0/doc'
gmake[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/osmany/mono/xsp-1.0/doc'
Making all in server
gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/home/osmany/mono/xsp-1.0/server'
/usr/local/bin/mcs -debug+ -debug:full -nologo -r:System.Web.dll 
-r:Mono.Posix.dll /d:MODMONO_SERVER /out:mod-mono-server.exe 
IApplicationHost.cs MonoWorkerRequest.cs Tracing.cs ApplicationServer.cs 
LingeringNetworkStream.cs BaseApplicationHost.cs BaseRequestBroker.cs 
IWebSource.cs server.cs ModMonoRequest.cs ModMonoWorkerRequest.cs 
ModMonoApplicationHost.cs AssemblyInfoModMono.cs
Compilation succeeded
and never finish it stay here forever and the mono process is using 80% of cpu
This problem has solution 

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Re: Updating 5.2.1 Release #

2004-07-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 05:51:57PM +0200, Cedric GROSS wrote:

 So what is the diff between uname -r and uname -v, which produce for me
 :
 
 Uname -r : 5.2.1-RELEASE
 Uname -v : FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jun 14 14:52:08 CEST 2004
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CNV_TOTAL
 
 Extract from man page :
 -r Write the current release level of the operating system
 -v  Write the version level of this release of the operating system
 
 So that's mean that there are several Release ( as relesase level) and
 inside each release level there are several version level, am'I
 understanding well ?

The different flags to uname(1) basically select different bits out of
the uname data -- so 'uname -a' gives you *all* of the data, 'uname
-r' gives you the release level, 'uname -m' gives you the hardware
architecture, etc. etc.

Note that this command isn't FreeBSD specific -- the behaviour of
uname(1) is part of the POSIX.2 specification, which means it will
work the same way on any current unixoid OS you care to mention.  Of
course, different development groups do tend to have slightly
different interpretations of exactly what it is POSIX.2 mandates
should be printed out in each case.

Under FreeBSD, 'uname -v' attempts to give you as unambiguous as
possible identification of exactly what kernel/OS setup you have.
Since FreeBSD has quite a number of different code branches, and
several of those branches are under continuous development, and
kernels can be compiled in various different configurations by various
different people, it takes quite a complicated string to identify all
of that.  Other OSes tend to be somewhat more terse, especially those
where the development process isn't exposed to the public: for
instance Solaris just gives you the OS version number and the relevant
patch id (if any) where patching has involved replacing the kernel
image.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer

2004-07-29 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-07-28 23:55, DK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You are probably better off and more secure with an initial install,
  with no additional work or tweaking, of FreeBSD on the net than you
  would be with a MS system with every know fix available.

 So if I do a default install of FreeBSD  then connect to the net for
 ports/packages, is there a default firewall running in the background ??

No, but the default setup of FreeBSD doesn't enable a ton of services.
The /etc/inetd.conf file has nothing enabled by default.  Even if it
did, you'd have to manually enable inetd in /etc/rc.conf since it's also
disabled by default:

$ grep -v '^[[:space:]]*#' /usr/src/etc/inetd.conf
$ grep inetd_enable /usr/src/etc/defaults/rc.conf
inetd_enable=NO   # Run the network daemon dispatcher (YES/NO).


  Do use appropriate precautions such as ssh instead of telnet and ssl
  protected sites where possible and check md5-s of downloaded files.
  But, don't let it stop you from using it with FreeBSD.

 Do you install FreeBSD first  connect to the net for ports/packages,
 or install the actual FreeBSD OS from the /stand/sysinstall  select
 the net ??

There is no difference in the two statements presented as alternative
options above.  Keep in mind that /stand/sysinstall *IS* the FreeBSD
installer.

 My bootup is fine, its the BSD+wmaker running  opening nedit  a cmd
 prompts that are slower than Windows 2000 ?? any suggestions as to why ??

You're probably using X11 with a vesa driver or something that doesn't
take advantage of all the accelerations that your hardware can provide.

Giorgos

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Re: Updating 5.2.1 Release #

2004-07-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 11:01:34AM -0500, Scott wrote:
 Ok, I just did as suggested:
 
   (   Change this:
   (   *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
   (
   (   for this
   (   *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1
 
 and ran cvsup again.
 
 This time, I successfully and quickly deleted every thing 
 under /usr/src.

Ooops. Yes, you would see that effect.  There's actually no such tag
as RELENG_5_2_1.  What you need is RELENG_5_2

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Updating 5.2.1 Release #

2004-07-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 10:05:49AM -0500, Scott wrote:
 
 So if I set my cvs tag as Ezequiel (thank you) suggested:
 change: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
 to: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1
 That will get me the latest patches?

No -- that's correct in spirit, but wrong in detail.  Use
tag=RELENG_5_2 for best results.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Updating 5.2.1 Release #

2004-07-29 Thread Donald J. O'Neill

 So if I set my cvs tag as Ezequiel (thank you) suggested:
 change: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
 to: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1
 That will get me the latest patches?

 I'll make that change and rebuild again today.

 Thanks all for your help. :)
 Scott

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Scott,

You'll be much happier if you use:
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2

That will get you what you want. I'm not sure, but I think using the your last 
proposed tag might just erase your sorces and that's it.

Don
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Re: Updating 5.2.1 Release #

2004-07-29 Thread Scott
  (   No -- that's correct in spirit, but wrong
  (   in detail.  Use tag=RELENG_5_2 for best
  (   results.

Ah, that would be what I did wrong then. I've reinstalled,
am currently installing cvsup from ports and when that is
done I'll try to update again with the correct tag this
time.

Thanks again to all that have helped. :)
Scott



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Re: password

2004-07-29 Thread Mark Frank
* On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 02:13:19PM +0100 Richard P. Williamson wrote:
 If you ever need to change the root password again, you'll need to
 log in using single user mode.  The handbook will explain how to
 do that.  

Really?  It's certainly not a requirement.  Is there some reason to
suggest you have to do this from single user mode?

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Re: Updating 5.2.1 Release #

2004-07-29 Thread Puna Tannehill
Matthew Seaman wrote:
On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 09:37:35AM -0500, Puna Tannehill wrote:
Scott wrote:

uname -a shows:
FreeBSD 5.2.1-Release #0:
I was expecting the release (version, revision# ?) number to 
be greater than #0. I think I've seen where the latest 
revision is #9 or so? Do I need to tell it to get the latest 
revision somehow? Do I need to change the cvs tag= to 
something else to get up to date?
I thought the #number indicated the number of times the server has been 
rebooted based upon the last time the kernel was recompiled.  Being that it 
is #0, it was your first book.  Reboot the machine and check the number 
again.

I believe that the #n is the number of times the kernel has been
re-compiled since the last time the system was installed.  It's
probably not a very interesting datum except to kernel hackers who
need to do a lot of recompiling.
Oh right right.  Thank you for the correction.  I'm still wiping the sleep from 
my eyes.  Actually, it might be an fun indicator of how many 15-20 minute 
chunks of time one can never get back.  heehee  hmm  ~sighs and sips coffee~

Puna

What the original poster was thinking of is the patchlevel that gets
incremented every time a new security (or nowadays: errata) patch is
applied to any of the -RELEASE branches.  That modifies the OS name
(ie. the output of 'uname -r'), so instead of:
5.2.1-RELEASE
it says (at the latest count):
5.2.1-RELEASE-p9
See /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh for the file that controls all that.
Cheers,
Matthew
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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer package like this ???

2004-07-29 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-07-28 22:53, DK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Whats the purpose of having to manually set the system to automount ??
   as opposed to having it as a system install default ?? if there is an
   advantage, I am sure its for the 0.01% of the user base
 
  It's more in the range of 99.9%.  Automounting can be annoying like hell
  when you happen to accidentally insert media in your drives.  It can
  also be insecure if you don't want anyone to use the machine you've
  installed to mount CD-ROMs, floppies or other media of their choise.

 Accidently ?? what ?? Like you were walking down a hall way, tripped 
 slipped  accidenlty shoved a CD into the drive :))

 I can put a CD into Windows 2000  it has never been accessed unless I
 explicitly do it. - I don't see the problem ??

Yes, which is exactly why every CD-ROM I've put in Windows 2000 installations
is immediately scanned and autorun in the default setup of the system.

Including those CD-ROMs whose autorun programs are brain-damaged and crash
because of disk errors or bugs in the autorun program itself.

Oh come on, I consider autorunning of removable media a security risk.  You
like it and try to present the opposite behavior as a fault.  I don't think
there is any case we can agree on this point.  The best we can do about it
is help you install amd, the automounter daemon and let us all live in peace :P

  Instead of leaving *all* the users exposed to risks like this, which is
  the usual Windows philosophy of doing stuff, FreeBSD has the capability
  to automount media but keeps it disabled by default.

 Why not enable it by default  then allow people who love messing around
 with OS disable it manually - this seems more logical ...

Exposing everyone to an unnecessary risk seems more logical just to please the
users that come from a different OS?  Hmmm...  I really don't think so.

 hey why not add a nice GUI that allows you to edit all the OS configurations
  nahh ... no one would use that !!

Because it requires a lot of things to work Right(TM) from the moment a
computer fires up until the point that a usable GUI can reach a state of
stability.  You can always enable XDM at boot time and wait just a bit until
X11 fires up, when you will be able to log into your BSD machine using a GUI.

This is not something that should be forced on everyone though, because a lot
of things might break and leave the user in the sorry state the Windows users
find themselves so very often -- with a computer that has barely managed to
reach a graphical mode and then froze when some driver did a stupid thing,
leaving nothing but a blank screen to stare at.

  Is it so hard to edit a text file like rc.conf and add a simple line
  like this?
 
  amd_enable=YES

 Hard to edit... no your right, knowing where the file is located, yes ??
 knowing where in the file it needs to go or does ordering matter, yes ??

One of the first things you see when logging into your BSD system is:

o  The Handbook and FAQ documents are at http://www.FreeBSD.org/ and,
   along with the mailing lists, can be searched by going to
   http://www.FreeBSD.org/search/.  If the doc distribution has
   been installed, they're also available formatted in /usr/share/doc.

All of the things you've presented so far as difficult and confusing are
explained in the documentation pointed at by this message.  If you had read
even the Handbook you'd already know that it contains a chapter devoted to
Configuration and Tuning, which includes:

   11.3 Core Configuration

   The principal location for system configuration information is
   within /etc/rc.conf. This file contains a wide range of
   configuration information, principally used at system startup to
   configure the system.  Its name directly implies this; it is
   configuration information for the rc* files.

   An administrator should make entries in the rc.conf file to
   override the default settings from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. The
   defaults file should not be copied verbatim to /etc - it contains
   default values, not examples. All system-specific changes should be
   made in the rc.conf file itself.

If something was confusing or you couldn't locate something in the docs, as
every single page of the documentation says in the bottom of the text you
could have mailed your questions here:

  For questions about FreeBSD, read the documentation before
 contacting [EMAIL PROTECTED].

  For questions about this documentation, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED].

If you have tried all of these instead of bitching that FreeBSD is not
Windows, I'm sure something more productive would have happened :-/

  Do you really mean that this is so much harder to do than fumble and
  fight with multiple dialogs, which you have to remember by heart of
  course, just to find that disabling automounting is impossible (unless
  you download 

Re: XFree86 4.4 port (for Chipset CLE266/VT8235 Graphics) - timescale?

2004-07-29 Thread Tilman Linneweh
* Owen.G [Do, 29 Jul 2004 at 16:29 GMT]:
 I just had a look at the FreeBSD Ports page:
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi

 and there's no sign of XFree86 4.4 yet.

 Questions:
 1, Does anybody know the timescale of the port for XFree86 4.4?
 2, Will the port of XFree86 4.4 be important enough that it will be 
 announced on the freebsd-announce mailing list?

AFAIK the XFree86 4.4 ports are currently tested.

On CURRENT the X.org ports are now the default, they should work with your
VIA too.
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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installerpackage like this ???

2004-07-29 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
On 2004-07-28 22:53, DK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

--- Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

Not really.  But even if we provided examples of this configurability
you wouldn't accept them as valid examples because they wouldn't be
point and click on some wimpy dialog-based wizard, right?
 

Right
   

I think this is going to be my last post on the topic.  There's not much point
after this particular answer to discuss anything.
 

Who could have put it better? As the pounding drums
sound, Aragorn and Legolas rush to barricade the entrance
to the burial chamber. Heavy footfalls sound and the statement
is made, with plain disappointment, 'They have a cave troll.'
KDK
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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer package like this ???

2004-07-29 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:28:17 -0700 (PDT)
DK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 .. I know its hard for people to swallow, but MS Windows IS easier
 to use than BSD/Linux/OSX ... thats WHY its the most widely used
 regardless of marketing/costs etc ...

Depends on what you mean easy to use... if you by easy you mean lack
of proper file manipulation tools, no easy to use package or ports
system, search tools, easy to swap out window manager, and ect I guess
so.

 Gnome starts faster than Windows ?? Start time is not important - I
 am talking about reaction time of the GUI - Menu's apearing, moving
 icons, applications appearing etc - Working with Fedora at Uni(Yes,
 I am doing a Masters) the other day, its on a 50 Node Cluster - Its
 running on systems faster than what I have at home(above), yet feels
 like its as gluggy as Windows 95! - nice one Linux

Gnome does more than windows.

BTW the speed in that case can most likely not be attributed to linux.
Most likely it is not running with the defualt gnome settings and in
some cases even safe or sane settings for compile options.
 
 As for XFCE, how do you start it from the .xinitrc
 The XFCE Homepage site says exec startxfce4 - but that didn't work
 for me ??

Works here.

 Whats the purpose of having to manually set the system to automount
 ?? as opposed to having it as a system install default ?? if there
 is an advantage, I am sure its for the 0.01% of the user base
 
Yes, it is a default installs should under no circumstances decide
what users want to do with there systems.

If you want to create a second freebsd distros that includes amd
running and configed by defualt, feel free to.

I personally find it rather bloody nice, rather than having to deal
with some stupid program guessing where I want it mount.

It is bloody annoying in multiuser enviroments.
 
   - 300 Million Users of Windows thinks so ;)) (BTW: I am NOT
   including KDE/GNOME)
  
  Windows has a larger user base, that's correct.
   
   - No default Find Files GUI - I won't even comment on lack of
   functionality of Cmd line whereis/search/find
  
  In gnome there is a find option that enables you to find files.
  And then 
there is find, which can do a lot more then you probably think
now.
 
 
 - sorry, I wasn't clear above - For the lack of a GUI Find Files
 option, I meant the default install or with Window Managers(wmaker),
 not the Desktop Environments like KDE/Gnome(which are also fast...
 NOT) - which I don't use as they are slow

Guis to find files exist. Check the ports.

/me has one hotkeyed to mod4+f

BTW you are aware that the defualt configs for KDE and Gnome suck? If
you want to complain about them, you have the wrong list.

   I can tell you that 95% of people who use computers want EASE
   of USE- This INCLUDES easy installation of the Operating System
  
  Following the handbook makes FreeBSD installable by nearly anyone.
 
 
 - installable YES, configurable ... you've got to be shitting me :o

Once you find a editor it like, it is exteremely.
 
 - install BSD+wmaker(easy)
 - start the GUI - oops some doc reading here(easy+1)
 - while in wmaker, dynamically change the Montior settings from
 1600x1200 32b to 1028x768 24b(wouldn't have a clue - off to the docs
 - manually edit configuration files ?? - then restart - but what is
 the correct horizontal frequency OR vertical refresh(hard++) - I
 don't know  I don't want to know(hey while I am at it, why don't I
 start designing my own CPU)... that's why people use Windows(easy to
 configure)

I have all ways found windows harder to configure. Requires to much
muching about and shoe horning it into areas it was never meant to go,
just to get a bit of usability in.

 I played with BSD back in 1997  thought it needed some work.. so I
 gave it a miss.. Fast Forward to 2004,  all I see are developers
 adding features that are not that important, yet missing the basics
 of what the majority of USER's want(not coders) Apple OSX
 understands this(nice GUI over BSD base - shame about the stupid
 high prices  dumb one button mouse)... sorry BSD/Linux developers
 ...your just giving more air to MS by focusing on the wrong things

You do realize the difference between a bleeding OS and a bloody WM
and that they are both completely seperate?

If you want to talk about missing basics, talk about windows, which
still to this day does not have a proper CLI, windowing system, and
still regards telnet as good do to inept developers and managamnet.
There are a horde of tools and the like it is completely and uderly
missing.

 ...XPde seem to have the right idea... looks promising... hope the
 GUI reaction time is fast http://www.xpde.com/

And agian, under X11, the gui is totally seperate from the OS.

Don't see what is really so special about it yet, given it docs and
the like.

 that reminds me of my Java Lecturer(I hate Java BTW) in which every
 time students had a problem, he would never look at the code but
 just reply check out the 

Re: XFree86 4.4 port - timescale?

2004-07-29 Thread Owen.G
Cheers Tilman,
I just checked again on Ports for 5.2-CURRENT/i386 and 
5.2.1-RELEASE/i386:
version = XFree86-4.3.0,1

True, www.xfree86.org/4.4.0/RELNOTES2.html#4 does say:
'Summary of new features in 4.4.0.  A new driver for several VIA 
integrated graphics chipsets has been added.' and offers a source code 
download.

I bought this PC so that, as a newbie, I don't twat the working copy 
of M$ on my other PC and to always have a working PC with a browser. 
CVSup and installing from ports is (only just) within my abilities (if 
nothing complains) - there's no way I'd be able to install from a 
tarball.  Besides, isn't Ports the preferred installation medium for 
FreeBSD?

So my question remains, how long for XFree86-4.4 in ports?
5.3-RELEASE/i386 perhaps?
Is it also stupid of me to have a LCD monitor capable of only 1280x768 
when the VIA driver documentation at www.xfree86.org says the VIA 
driver's display resolutions are:

Option PanelSize string
Specify the size (width x height) of the LCD panel attached to the 
system. Sizes 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x1024, and 1400x1050 are 
supported.

Owen

Tilman Linneweh wrote:
* Owen.G [Do, 29 Jul 2004 at 16:29 GMT]:
I just had a look at the FreeBSD Ports page:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi
and there's no sign of XFree86 4.4 yet.
Questions:
1, Does anybody know the timescale of the port for XFree86 4.4?
2, Will the port of XFree86 4.4 be important enough that it will be 
announced on the freebsd-announce mailing list?

AFAIK the XFree86 4.4 ports are currently tested.
On CURRENT the X.org ports are now the default, they should work with your
VIA too.
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kmail date headers translated to local time.

2004-07-29 Thread Sebastian Luque
Hi there,

I've been searching the web for a way to show the timezone offset as a phrase 
in kmail replies. Basically, just a placeholder, so that when I reply 
messages, the phrase says something like:

On Mon, 23 Jul 2004, at 12:00 -0500, someone wrote:

It's very similar to the question you posed to freebsd-questions. I'd be happy 
to hear whether you found a solution to your problem or know how to do what I 
need. Thanks a lot in advance.

Greetings,
Sebastian
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Re: netstat -m 'cannot allocate memory'

2004-07-29 Thread lists
Is it possible to rebuild these without doing a complete make world
and if so without rebooting ?
Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Jul 29), lists said:
 

Hello,
On 2 of my systems I get the following error while doing netstat -m:
$ netstat -m
netstat: sysctl: retrieving mbstat: Cannot allocate memory
This is a PIV 2ghz, with 1,5 GB of memory
   

That means you have rebuilt your kernel and now kernel and world are out of
sync.  At minimum, rebuild libkvm and netstat.
 

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openssl/openssh from ports or base?

2004-07-29 Thread Jason P Holland

Hello,

What is the preferred method that people are using for keeping openssl and
openssh up to date?  Are most people using the ports version?  Or the base
version?  Seems like if there is a vunlerability released, its much easier
to cvsup the ports tree and reinstall.  But if you use the base versions,
is there a way to update that without doing a complete
buildworld/installworld?  Just curious what other freebsd users are doing.
Thanks

Jason
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Problem updating xorg-clients

2004-07-29 Thread Joshua Tinnin
I'm getting an error message (below) when trying to upgrade the xorg-clients 
port, and I'm not at all sure how to fix it. Am running 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 with 
xorg-6.7.0_1.

- jt

making all in programs/xhost...
cc -O -pipe -march=athlon-xp -ansi -pedantic -Wno-system-headers -Dasm=__asm
-Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wundef -I/usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients/work/xc 
-I/usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients/work/xc/exports/include  -I/usr/X11R6/include 
-DCSRG_BASED  -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO   -DTCPCONN -DUNIXCONN  
-DHAS_STICKY_DIR_BIT -DHAS_FCHOWN -DIPv6-DBSD44SOCKETS  
-DXVENDORNAME='The X.Org Foundation' -DXVENDORNAMESHORT='X.Org' -c 
xhost.c
xhost.c: In function `change_host':
xhost.c:423: error: syntax error before siaddr
xhost.c:434: error: `siaddr' undeclared (first use in this function)
xhost.c:434: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
xhost.c:434: error: for each function it appears in.)
xhost.c: In function `get_hostname':
xhost.c:883: error: `XServerInterpretedAddress' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
xhost.c:883: error: `sip' undeclared (first use in this function)
xhost.c:884: warning: ISO C89 forbids mixed declarations and code
xhost.c:888: error: syntax error before ')' token
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients/work/xc/programs/xhost.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients/work/xc/programs.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade99236.6 
make
** Fix the problem and try again.
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Re: Updating 5.2.1 Release #

2004-07-29 Thread Ezequiel
Scott, I'm sorry
the correct tag is

*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2

- Original Message -
From: Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ezequiel [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: Updating 5.2.1 Release #


Ok, I just did as suggested:

  (   Change this:
  (   *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
  (
  (   for this
  (   *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1

and ran cvsup again.

This time, I successfully and quickly deleted every thing
under /usr/src.

There must be something wrong with my cvs tag. I read the
notice in the handbook that says Be very careful to specify
any tag= fields correctly. Some tags are valid only for
certain collections of files. If you specify an incorrect or
misspelled tag, CVSup will delete files which you probably
do not want deleted.

Here is my supfile that just deleted everything under
/usr/src:

*default host=cvsup15.us.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_1
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
src-all
ports-all tag=.

To keep up to date with 5.2.1, is that the correct tag?

I'm reinstalling now . . .

Thanks,
Scott


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Re: XFree86 4.4 port - timescale?

2004-07-29 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:34:29 +0200
Owen.G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Cheers Tilman,
 
 I just checked again on Ports for 5.2-CURRENT/i386 and 
 5.2.1-RELEASE/i386:
 version = XFree86-4.3.0,1
 
 True, www.xfree86.org/4.4.0/RELNOTES2.html#4 does say:
 'Summary of new features in 4.4.0.  A new driver for several VIA 
 integrated graphics chipsets has been added.' and offers a source
 code download.
 
 I bought this PC so that, as a newbie, I don't twat the working
 copy of M$ on my other PC and to always have a working PC with a
 browser. CVSup and installing from ports is (only just) within my
 abilities (if nothing complains) - there's no way I'd be able to
 install from a tarball.  Besides, isn't Ports the preferred
 installation medium for FreeBSD?
 
 So my question remains, how long for XFree86-4.4 in ports?
 5.3-RELEASE/i386 perhaps?
 
 Is it also stupid of me to have a LCD monitor capable of only
 1280x768 when the VIA driver documentation at www.xfree86.org says
 the VIA driver's display resolutions are:
 
 Option PanelSize string
 Specify the size (width x height) of the LCD panel attached to the 
 system. Sizes 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x1024, and 1400x1050
 are supported.
 
 Owen
 
 
 Tilman Linneweh wrote:
  * Owen.G [Do, 29 Jul 2004 at 16:29 GMT]:
  
 I just had a look at the FreeBSD Ports page:
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi
 
 and there's no sign of XFree86 4.4 yet.
 
 Questions:
 1, Does anybody know the timescale of the port for XFree86 4.4?
 2, Will the port of XFree86 4.4 be important enough that it will
 be announced on the freebsd-announce mailing list?
  
  
  AFAIK the XFree86 4.4 ports are currently tested.
  
  On CURRENT the X.org ports are now the default, they should work
  with your VIA too.

There has been some sort of problem getting XFree86 4.4 into the
ports. Not sure what. But Xorg should work if it was supported XFree86
4.4, since for all effective purposes XFree86 4.4 and Xorg whatever
the current one is is the same thing... due to when the fork
happened...
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Re: netstat -m 'cannot allocate memory'

2004-07-29 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jul 29), lists said:
 Is it possible to rebuild these without doing a complete make world
 and if so without rebooting ?

Yes:

cd /usr/src/lib/libkvm  make obj  make depend  make  make install
cd /usr/src/usr.bin/netstat  make obj  make depend  make  make install

You may also need to rebuild systat, sockstat, netstat, lsof, and possibly
other programs, which is why a buildworld is usually recommended.

-- 
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Re: XFree86 4.4 port - timescale?

2004-07-29 Thread Owen.G
OK,
On www.x.org they say that the latest version of their X implementation 
is X11R6.7.0.

I don't see it on the Ports page on FreeBSD.org.  Is that because the 
ports page says:
Last database update: 2004-07-16 08:54:22 UTC ?

Owen

Vulpes Velox wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:34:29 +0200
Owen.G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Cheers Tilman,
I just checked again on Ports for 5.2-CURRENT/i386 and 
5.2.1-RELEASE/i386:
version = XFree86-4.3.0,1


There has been some sort of problem getting XFree86 4.4 into the
ports. Not sure what. But Xorg should work if it was supported XFree86
4.4, since for all effective purposes XFree86 4.4 and Xorg whatever
the current one is is the same thing... due to when the fork
happened...
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osversion

2004-07-29 Thread Osmany Guirola Cruz
i foun these line in the Makefile of mono

.if ${OSVERSION}  50
EXTRA_PATCHES=  ${FILESDIR}/extra-patch-signbit
.elif ${OSVERSION}  502113
IGNORE= Does not work on 5.X before 502113
.endif

how can i know if myosversion is greater than 502113




On Thursday 29 July 2004 15:48, Owen.G wrote:
 OK,

 On www.x.org they say that the latest version of their X implementation
 is X11R6.7.0.

 I don't see it on the Ports page on FreeBSD.org.  Is that because the
 ports page says:
 Last database update: 2004-07-16 08:54:22 UTC ?

 Owen
 

 Vulpes Velox wrote:
  On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:34:29 +0200
 
  Owen.G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cheers Tilman,
 
 I just checked again on Ports for 5.2-CURRENT/i386 and
 5.2.1-RELEASE/i386:
 version = XFree86-4.3.0,1
 
  There has been some sort of problem getting XFree86 4.4 into the
  ports. Not sure what. But Xorg should work if it was supported XFree86
  4.4, since for all effective purposes XFree86 4.4 and Xorg whatever
  the current one is is the same thing... due to when the fork
  happened...

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Re: Updating 5.2.1 Release #

2004-07-29 Thread Scott

  (   Scott, I'm sorry the correct tag is
  (
  (   *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2

That's ok Ezequiel. No harm done. Fortunately I was
upgrading a fresh install so none of my own data was lost.
I've learned a lot today. I've put off upgrading because the
entire process looked so daunting, but when you break it
down into each step, it's not as hard as I thought it would
be. :)

I just finished the upgrade using the correct cvs tag. It
took three hours total, but seems to be up and running fine
now. Uname now shows:
FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9
Woo Hoo! It worked!

Thanks again to everyone for the assistance today. :)
Scott




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Re: osversion

2004-07-29 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Osmany Guirola Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 i foun these line in the Makefile of mono
 
 .if ${OSVERSION}  50
 EXTRA_PATCHES=  ${FILESDIR}/extra-patch-signbit
 .elif ${OSVERSION}  502113
 IGNORE= Does not work on 5.X before 502113
 .endif
 
 how can i know if myosversion is greater than 502113

sysctl -n kern.osreldate

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Re: wireless LAN

2004-07-29 Thread Mathias Samuelson
Soo-Hyun Choi wrote:
 I'm using SONY VAIO Z1 series, and it seems that the
 built in wireless LAN isn't working properly. So I got
 a PC Card which is WaveLAN (Lucent), a bit old one but
 expect to work fine under FreeBSD 5.2.1.
 
 I've enabled 'pccard' at rc.conf file and the kernel
 seems to load the 'wi' driver by default.
 
 But the WaveLAN isn't working yet. Could anyone drive
 me in a good (complete) reference to get things
 working?
 
 Cheers,
 SH-

I sent this in reply to an earlier post, but failed to cc the list. It's 
not complete, but until you get better information perhaps it can help 
you out a bit:

I have MA401 and it's working without any problems now. I started out 
with pccardd starting with configuration file, rather than using the 
default one. That didn't work so well, so in /etc/rc.conf I now have:

pccard_enable=YES
pccard_mem=DEFAULT
pccard_beep=2
pccard_ifconfig=NO
pccardd_flags=
pccard_ether_delay=5

My understanding is that with this setup, pccardd will look for the file 
/etc/defaults/pccard.conf, then it might be the case (sorry for not 
being more knowledgable in this area) that it will read 
/etc/pccard.conf. Anyway, I have one and it looks like this:

# Lucent WaveLAN/IEEE
card Lucent Technologies WaveLAN/IEEE
 config  0x1 wi0 11
 insert  echo WaveLAN/IEEE inserted
 insert  /etc/pccard_ether wi0
 remove  echo WaveLAN/IEEE removed
 remove  /sbin/ifconfig wi0 delete

# Netgear MA401
card NETGEAR MA401RA Wireless PC Card
 config  auto wi ? 0x1
 insert  /etc/pccard_ether $device start
 remove  /etc/pccard_ether $device stop

Now, when I insert the card, after a few seconds the card shows up in 
ifconfig.

I hope this helps out a bit. And oh, I'm on 4.10-STABLE

Best regards
Mathias

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Sound Driver

2004-07-29 Thread Sandbox Video Productions
Starting KDE I always get this message. Then it just
stalls


Sound server informational message:
Error while ititializing the sound driver:
device /dev/dsp can't be opened (Device not
configured)
The sound server will continue using the null output device



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problems with PF

2004-07-29 Thread RJ45

hello,
I configured PF for natting machines on my LAN
using FreeBSD as ADSL gateway.

I just write a simple rule
nat on tun0 from 172.16.16.0/24 to any - (tun0)

but NAT does not work, packets are blocked.

ip forwarding is enabled

using ipfilter works and packets are natted succesfully with a simple rule
the same as before:

map tun0 172.16.16.0/24 - tun0/32


I am using PF on OpenBSD since the first time it was released
so I Am sure it is not a problem of my configuration (After all more
than very simple)
using PF on FreeBSD I noticed simply packets are not NATted.
I have to say I am using it on sparc64 FreeBSD 5.2.1 on ultra 60.

anyone has some hints ?

maybe on i386 works who knows ?

thanks

Rick


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Re: problems with PF

2004-07-29 Thread Max Laier
On Thursday 29 July 2004 22:57, RJ45 wrote:
 hello,
 I configured PF for natting machines on my LAN
 using FreeBSD as ADSL gateway.

 I just write a simple rule
 nat on tun0 from 172.16.16.0/24 to any - (tun0)
^^

 but NAT does not work, packets are blocked.

 ip forwarding is enabled

 using ipfilter works and packets are natted succesfully with a simple rule
 the same as before:

 map tun0 172.16.16.0/24 - tun0/32


 I am using PF on OpenBSD since the first time it was released
 so I Am sure it is not a problem of my configuration (After all more
 than very simple)
 using PF on FreeBSD I noticed simply packets are not NATted.

Well they are, but to a wrong address or no address at all, depending on the 
state of tun0 upon loading the ruleset.

 I have to say I am using it on sparc64 FreeBSD 5.2.1 on ultra 60.

 anyone has some hints ?

Have you applied the dynamic address patches?
# cd /usr/ports/security/pf  make extract  cd work/pf_freebsd_2.03/patches
# less README
for details. Unless you did so, the (ifname) syntax will not work on 5.2.1R. 
As a workaround you can place a #pfctl -f pf.conf in your linkup script. 
Other than that, you might want to try a recent -current snapshot in order to 
build 3.5 pf (the port is still as of 3.4) out of the box. There you have all 
the fancy interface handling that comes with 3.5 (including dynamic addresses 
of course) and additionally there is ALTQ ;) Patches for hme(4) from Pyun 
YongHyeon are on http://people.freebsd.org/~mlaier/ALTQ_driver/ other driver 
patches upon request.
sparc64 should not be a problem for pf in general.

 maybe on i386 works who knows ?

Not with the dynamic address syntax, no.

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Atheros card support in 5.2.1

2004-07-29 Thread Pratt, Benjamin E.
Hello -

I'm trying to get a card that's supported by madwifi drivers in Linux
(atheros) to work in FreeBSD and eventually FreeSBIE.  I've seen things
posted in other threads that say that atheros cards are supported (at
least some are) using the ath driver but in looking through my kernel
configuration options I'm not seeing ath anywhere.  I see an, awi, wi,
and wl but no ath.

Does anyone have any information about how to enable atheros support in
5.2.1??

Thanks,

Ben
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FreePascal don´t run fine on FreeBSD

2004-07-29 Thread Renato Botelho
Hi All,

Here, I have a FreeBSD-5.2.1-RELEASE-p8, running FireBird-1.5.1. I
have many udf´s wrote in Delphi to run on Firebird for windows, I
tried to compile these udf´s with FreePascal on FreeBSD, and register
on firebird, but it don´t work.

The same udf´s works fine when compiled on FreePascal on Windows and
Linux, and udf´s written in C/C++ works fine on FreeBSD.

Does anyone know if exist any problem with FreePascal on FreeBSD?

PS: I tried with fpc-1.0.10, 1.9.2 and 1.9.4 and get the same error.

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Re: freeBSD How to you set the prompt

2004-07-29 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:29:30 -
Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Where and how do you set the prompt to show what user name that  your  on IE ROOT or 
 user johndoe.
 Eample of what the end results I would like to see.
 
 # router1.pdx/chatusa.com user johndoe.

In tch I use this prompt (which also has some colors taht I cannot
reproduce here):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] current_path [current_time] last_command_exit_code
_#_

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/converters/php4-recode [20:35:57] 0  
   
_ #_

which is done by adding this two lines in ~/.cshrc
set prompt = [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s` %{\e[0;31m%}%/%{\e[0m%} [%P] 
%{\e[1;36m%}%?%{\e[0m%}
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Re: XFree86 4.4 port - timescale?

2004-07-29 Thread Tilman Linneweh
* Owen.G [Do, 29 Jul 2004 at 21:48 GMT]:
 I don't see it on the Ports page on FreeBSD.org.  Is that because the 
 ports page says:
 Last database update: 2004-07-16 08:54:22 UTC ?

xorg metaport was committed on June 19. 
freshports.org is a very useful resource: 
http://www.freshports.org/x11/xorg

regards tilman

P.S. Please don't toppost.
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Problems after php upgrade

2004-07-29 Thread Paul Schmehl
I just upgraded php today, and php no longer works on the web server.  I 
upgraded the php4 port, and then installed the extensions.  When I try to 
load a php page, it's blank, and I get errors like these in 
httpd-errors.log:

PHP Warning:  Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library './openssl.so' - 
Cannot open quot;./openssl.soquot; in Unknown on line 0
PHP Warning:  Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library './overload.so' - 
Cannot open quot;./overload.soquot; in Unknown on line 0
PHP Warning:  Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library './pcre.so' - 
Cannot open quot;./pcre.soquot; in Unknown on line 0

The php.ini file has this in it:
extensions_dir = /usr/local/lib/php/20020429 (which is where the 
extensions are.)  The perms are root:wheel r--r--r.

There's also a php.conf file now (in /usr/local/etc/) and it has 
PHP_EXT_DIR=20020249.

I have the correct stuff in httpd.conf (otherwise php wouldn't have worked 
before.)

I looked through the pkg-message files in the extensions and base dirs, but 
no luck.

What did I miss?
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Changing cards in a reader (new info)

2004-07-29 Thread hoe-waa
Aloha

I have some additional information regarding this problem.

I was reading some of the man pages for the ump-teenth time and
I thought I would try something with fdisk.

I started with a 128MB card in the reader.

hp# mount_msdosfs /dev/da2s1 /mnt/olympus/
hp# ls -l /mnt/olympus/
hp# ls -l /mnt/olympus/dcim/100olymp/
total 6752
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  680523 Jan  1  2000 p1010074.jpg
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  672166 Jun  5 07:19 p6050002.jpg
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  677171 Jun  5 07:19 p6050003.jpg
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  684658 Jun  5 07:23 p6050004.jpg
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  664210 Jun  5 07:23 p6050005.jpg
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  663849 Jun  5 07:24 p6050006.jpg
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  689533 Jun  5 07:37 p6050009.jpg
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  697084 Jun  5 07:37 p6050010.jpg
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  691391 Jun  5 07:59 p6050011.jpg
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  695390 Jun  5 07:59 p6050012.jpg
hp#
hp# umount /mnt/olympus/

Replace the 128MB with a 8MB

hp# mount_msdosfs /dev/da2s1 /mnt/olympus/
mount_msdosfs: /dev/da2s1: Invalid argument

Fails to mount

hp# fdisk -i da2
*** Working on device /dev/da2 ***
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=7 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl)

parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=7 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl)

Do you want to change our idea of what BIOS thinks ? [n]
Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 1 (0x01),(Primary DOS with 12 bit FAT)
start 25, size 15975 (7 Meg), flag 80 (active)
beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 10;
end: cyl 249/ head 3/ sector 16
Do you want to change it? [n]
The data for partition 2 is:
UNUSED
Do you want to change it? [n]
The data for partition 3 is:
UNUSED
Do you want to change it? [n]
The data for partition 4 is:
UNUSED
Do you want to change it? [n]
Partition 1 is marked active
Do you want to change the active partition? [n]

We haven't changed the partition table yet.  This is your last chance.
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=7 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl)

parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=7 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl)

Information from DOS bootblock is:
1: sysid 1 (0x01),(Primary DOS with 12 bit FAT)
start 25, size 15975 (7 Meg), flag 80 (active)
beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 10;
end: cyl 249/ head 3/ sector 16
2: UNUSED
3: UNUSED
4: UNUSED
Should we write new partition table? [n]
hp#

I answer no to all questions and then it mounts!!

hp# mount_msdosfs /dev/da2s1 /mnt/olympus/
hp# ls -l /mnt/olympus/dcim/100olymp/
total 680
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  694158 Jul 12 18:27 p7120001.jpg
hp#

Of course this (fdisk) has to be done as root. If I want to mount 
and umount as a standard user I need to chmod 660 da2s1 each time
the card is changed and fdisk -i is run.

I hope this triggers some memory cells on all the experienced users
on this list. Is there a better way to do this?

I am sorry my posts always seem to run long but I want to include 
what I feel is important.

Thanks for all the help I have received and all the future help I 
hope I get :o)

Robert

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Re: Problems after php upgrade

2004-07-29 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:06:54 -0500
Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just upgraded php today, and php no longer works on the web server.  I 
 upgraded the php4 port, and then installed the extensions.  When I try to 
 load a php page, it's blank, and I get errors like these in 
 httpd-errors.log:
 
 PHP Warning:  Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library './openssl.so' - 
 Cannot open quot;./openssl.soquot; in Unknown on line 0
 PHP Warning:  Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library './overload.so' - 
 Cannot open quot;./overload.soquot; in Unknown on line 0
 PHP Warning:  Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library './pcre.so' - 
 Cannot open quot;./pcre.soquot; in Unknown on line 0
 
 The php.ini file has this in it:
 extensions_dir = /usr/local/lib/php/20020429 (which is where the 
 extensions are.)  The perms are root:wheel r--r--r.

Stupid question: Are this the perms of the 20020429 directory ? They should be 
rwxr-xr-x
on the dir and r--r--r-- on the .so


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Re: Problems after php upgrade

2004-07-29 Thread Jonathan T. Sage
Paul - From /usr/ports/UPDATING:
If you have a previous php.ini configuration file, be sure to comment 
out the extension_dir parameter, since the correct path is statically 
compiled into the PHP binary.

I missed this too the first time through, but it fixed the same exact 
problem. (possibly s/same exact/similar/)

Hope this helps ~j
Paul Schmehl wrote:
I just upgraded php today, and php no longer works on the web server.  I 
upgraded the php4 port, and then installed the extensions.  When I try 
to load a php page, it's blank, and I get errors like these in 
httpd-errors.log:

PHP Warning:  Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library './openssl.so' - 
Cannot open quot;./openssl.soquot; in Unknown on line 0
PHP Warning:  Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library './overload.so' 
- Cannot open quot;./overload.soquot; in Unknown on line 0
PHP Warning:  Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library './pcre.so' - 
Cannot open quot;./pcre.soquot; in Unknown on line 0

The php.ini file has this in it:
extensions_dir = /usr/local/lib/php/20020429 (which is where the 
extensions are.)  The perms are root:wheel r--r--r.

There's also a php.conf file now (in /usr/local/etc/) and it has 
PHP_EXT_DIR=20020249.

I have the correct stuff in httpd.conf (otherwise php wouldn't have 
worked before.)

I looked through the pkg-message files in the extensions and base dirs, 
but no luck.

What did I miss?
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Re: Problems after php upgrade

2004-07-29 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, July 30, 2004 2:20 AM +0300 Ion-Mihai Tetcu [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Stupid question: Are this the perms of the 20020429 directory ? They
should be rwxr-xr-x on the dir and r--r--r-- on the .so
Not a stupid question at all.
Perms on the dir are rwxr-xr-x.
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Re: Problems after php upgrade

2004-07-29 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:13 PM -0400 Jonathan T. Sage 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Paul - From /usr/ports/UPDATING:
If you have a previous php.ini configuration file, be sure to comment out
the extension_dir parameter, since the correct path is statically
compiled into the PHP binary.
I missed this too the first time through, but it fixed the same exact
problem. (possibly s/same exact/similar/)
Hope this helps ~j
Yep, that was it.  Thanks.  Missed it completely.
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Different sysinstall labelling behaviour when run post-install vs. during install?

2004-07-29 Thread Darren Pilgrim
Yesterday I was upgrading the disk in one of my workstations.  Since I was
planning on growing the filesystems for my FreeBSD install at the same time,
I needed to manually create a new disklabel.  I used sysinstall for this,
but ran into a problem: sysinstall doesn't allocate the partition letters,
with 'a' first, if you aren't doing an initial install.  I ended up using
the auto defaults option to create the 'a' partition, then remove
everything and create them as I wanted.  I'm glad to say that it worked out
just fine, but this problem raises a couple of questions:

Why does sysinstall behave differently when run post-install?

How do I manually specify or change the partition letter to use?


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Re: freeBSD How to you set the prompt

2004-07-29 Thread Jon Drews
Hello Dan:

This may be of help:

 Understanding Shell Prompts
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/09/20/FreeBSD_Basics.html

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:29:30 -, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Where and how do you set the prompt to show what user name that  your  on IE ROOT or 
 user johndoe.
 Eample of what the end results I would like to see.
 
 # router1.pdx/chatusa.com user johndoe.
 

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Re: Problems after php upgrade

2004-07-29 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:13:11 -0400
Jonathan T. Sage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Paul - From /usr/ports/UPDATING:
 
 If you have a previous php.ini configuration file, be sure to comment 
 out the extension_dir parameter, since the correct path is statically 
 compiled into the PHP binary.
 
 I missed this too the first time through, but it fixed the same exact 
 problem. (possibly s/same exact/similar/)
 
 Hope this helps ~j

My php's recode.so make apache to dump core. I wonder if ti happens to
anyone else.


-- 
IOnut
Unregistered ;) FreeBSD user

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java jdk14 install - cannot find file

2004-07-29 Thread Peter Ryan
Hi,

as part of the jdk14 install, i have to
download the file j2sdk-1_4_2_04-linux-i586.bin
from the sun web site and put it into the
/usr/ports/distfiles folder.
I did that - no problem.
I can see the file listed in the right place.

When i do the Make, it aborts with an error.
It cannot find the file I just downloaded.

I highlight and copy the file name in the error
message.

Using KDE find files, i paste the filename into
the search field, and the file is found in the
distfiles folder !!

If I do a whereis on the Konsole and it is not
found. I cd'd to /usr/ports/distfiles and typed
whereis j2sdk-1_4_2_04-linux-i586.bin
and i get j2sdk-1_4_2_04-linux-i586.bin: back.
I assume this means it is not found.

I looked at the permissions of the file.
they were rw-r--r--. I changed it to
rwxr-xr-x. Didnt make any difference.

The only other thing i noticed was that the
file is a .bin, and the file type is listed
as a shell script.

i am really stuck. I am very new to this and
cant see what is wrong.

Can anyone help.

Thanks
Peter
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Re: XFree86 4.4 port (for Chipset CLE266/VT8235 Graphics) - timescale?

2004-07-29 Thread Brian Lynn
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:29:31 +0200, Owen.G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I also bought a EPIA Mini-ITX in early June before seeing the posting
 that the video wasn't supported by X on FreeBSD (Linux - supposedly yes,
 BSD not yet).
 
 The previous responder (thanks Erik) said, the CLE266 chipset will be
 supported in the port of XFree86 4.4
 
 I just had a look at the FreeBSD Ports page:
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi
 
 and there's no sign of XFree86 4.4 yet.
 
 Questions:
 1, Does anybody know the timescale of the port for XFree86 4.4?
 2, Will the port of XFree86 4.4 be important enough that it will be
 announced on the freebsd-announce mailing list?
 
 (I did get an X windows manager running on the VGA S server but it was
 too low resolution to be useful.)
 
 Thanks in anticipation,
 

You can also do this by using the driver from XFree86's binary packages for 4.4.
Once you have XFree86-4 installed using the port, do a portupgrade of
the -Server port using the 4.3.99 snapshot port:

portupgrade -f -o x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server-snap XFree86-Server

Then you need to grab the via_drv.o file from the XFree86 binary
package.  I just installed the whole thing to a temp dir, then copied
over the driver module.  From XFree86.0.log:

(II) LoadModule: via
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/via_drv.o
(II) Module via: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.4.0, module version = 4.1.30
Module class: XFree86 Video Driver
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.7


-Brian
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5.2.1-p9 panics under high loads

2004-07-29 Thread Hugo Silva

Hi list,

I have a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP enabled on a 5.2.1 server which is
panicking under high loads. While I don't have a copy of the panic with me
(datacenter still didn't mail it to me), I have seen this problem a while
ago, don't remember if on this list.

The problem was the same, 5.2 , SMP, and panic under high loads. Someone
suggested that user adding a kernel option, which got him rid of the
panics.

But I couldn't find this thread. Does anyone know what this kernel option is?

Best Regards,

Hugo

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Re: Atheros card support in 5.2.1

2004-07-29 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 04:37:16PM -0500, Pratt, Benjamin E. wrote:
 Hello -
 
 I'm trying to get a card that's supported by madwifi drivers in Linux
 (atheros) to work in FreeBSD and eventually FreeSBIE.  I've seen things
 posted in other threads that say that atheros cards are supported (at
 least some are) using the ath driver but in looking through my kernel
 configuration options I'm not seeing ath anywhere.  I see an, awi, wi,
 and wl but no ath.
 
 Does anyone have any information about how to enable atheros support in
 5.2.1??
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ben

I think you need to add the following to your kernel configuration file:

device  ath
device  ath_hal

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould

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Sysinstall errors and debug screen

2004-07-29 Thread Stefan Warnke
Hi,

 

when installing FreeBSD with Sysinstall it sometimes happens that an error
message comes up and the module couldn't get installed. Changing the medium
(CD or different ftp server) sometimes helps. It's not consistence, on one
machine I could install Samba 3 and MySQL 4, on another one I'm always
getting an error after a successful download. Samba 4 and MySql 3 can
install.

Can anyone tell me where to find the debug screen with the error messages?
What can I do to be able to install from the ports. I'm close to download
the packages from Samba.org and MySql.com instead of wasting time with
sysinstall.

 

VBR
Stefan Warnke

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Re: XFree86 4.4 port - timescale?

2004-07-29 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:48:43 +0200
Owen.G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK,
 
 On www.x.org they say that the latest version of their X
 implementation is X11R6.7.0.
 
 I don't see it on the Ports page on FreeBSD.org.

That is the lastest version of Xorg, not XFree86. :P
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backspace and delete keys behavior

2004-07-29 Thread Mariano Guadagnini
Hi guys, I am new to Freebsd (after years of linux) and, althought system 
installation and configuration was quite seamlessly, I've an issue with the 
delete key of my keyboard (101 keys us layout): In xterm, the backspace key 
works ok, but when I press del, it prints the ~ character, instead of  
deleting .  I have read it has something to do with keyboard layout config, 
but I couldn't find out how to fix it. So, any ideas?

Thanks, (and forgive my poor english)


Mariano Guadagnini
Argentina

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Re: java jdk14 install - cannot find file

2004-07-29 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Friday 30 July 2004 12:30, Peter Ryan wrote:
 Hi,

 as part of the jdk14 install, i have to
 download the file j2sdk-1_4_2_04-linux-i586.bin
 from the sun web site and put it into the
 /usr/ports/distfiles folder.
 I did that - no problem.
 I can see the file listed in the right place.

 When i do the Make, it aborts with an error.
 It cannot find the file I just downloaded.

 I highlight and copy the file name in the error
 message.

 Using KDE find files, i paste the filename into
 the search field, and the file is found in the
 distfiles folder !!

 If I do a whereis on the Konsole and it is not
 found. I cd'd to /usr/ports/distfiles and typed
 whereis j2sdk-1_4_2_04-linux-i586.bin
 and i get j2sdk-1_4_2_04-linux-i586.bin: back.
 I assume this means it is not found.


whereis does not find files in the general sense;
just executables in PATH and man pages in manpath
and sources in some ?standard place?.

The j2sdk-1_4_2_04-linux-i586.bin: response is just 
the header declaring what you asked - any results
follow this with complete paths.

The usual command for finding files is 'locate'
but this depends on a data base that is only updated
once a week by default and then only if your machine
in running at the appropriate time.
You could use
  $ find / -name j2sdk-1_4_2_04-linux-i586.bin
but with the search directed to the entire system 
you can expect that this might take almost 
forever. Much quicker would be
  $ find /usr/ports/distfiles -name j2sdk-1_4_2_04-linux-i586.bin

 I looked at the permissions of the file.
 they were rw-r--r--. I changed it to
 rwxr-xr-x. Didnt make any difference.

 The only other thing i noticed was that the
 file is a .bin, and the file type is listed
 as a shell script.

What file type? You mean 
  $ file j2sdk-1_4_2_04-linux-i586.bin
responds with script?
It probably is and should be a Bourne shell script;
take a look inside and make sure it is the required 
file and not just a URL of the true file. This 
sometimes happens.

Failing that check very-very carefully that the file 
name in distfiles is exactly the same as that asked 
for by make. 

Malcolm

 i am really stuck. I am very new to this and
 cant see what is wrong.

 Can anyone help.

 Thanks
 Peter
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mount_smbfs

2004-07-29 Thread jon

The mount_smbfs(8) command on 5.2.1 allows multiple mounts using the same
source and mount point.  This sounds like a bug to me since other file
systems such as ufs return an error on such attempts.  Anyone know of a
reason why this is allowed in mount_smbfs?

J
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Re: java jdk14 install - cannot find file

2004-07-29 Thread Peter Ryan
Thanks Malcolm,

To make sure my eyes were not
playing tricks, I was careful to 
do the KDE Find Files
using a copypaste of the file
name in the error message - and
it was found exactly where I put it,
ie in /usr/ports/distfiles, which is
where it is supposed to be

The file is about 34MB, so is not
just a header, but anyway, the error
message says ... doesn't seem to exist.

Thanks very much for the advice on 
finding files in the Konsole.

I used the find /usr/ports/distfiles -name
version from the Konsole, and it also found
the file. (I pasted the file name from the
error message to the end of the find 
command - so I dont think there is any spelling
error)

This is baffling.

Thanks again
Peter


--- Malcolm Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 30 July 2004 12:30, Peter Ryan wrote:
  Hi,
 
  as part of the jdk14 install, i have to
  download the file j2sdk-1_4_2_04-linux-i586.bin
  from the sun web site and put it into the
  /usr/ports/distfiles folder.
  I did that - no problem.
  I can see the file listed in the right place.
 
  When i do the Make, it aborts with an error.
  It cannot find the file I just downloaded.
 
  I highlight and copy the file name in the error
  message.
 
  Using KDE find files, i paste the filename into
  the search field, and the file is found in the
  distfiles folder !!
 
  If I do a whereis on the Konsole and it is not
  found. I cd'd to /usr/ports/distfiles and typed
  whereis j2sdk-1_4_2_04-linux-i586.bin
  and i get j2sdk-1_4_2_04-linux-i586.bin: back.
  I assume this means it is not found.
 
 
 whereis does not find files in the general sense;
 just executables in PATH and man pages in manpath
 and sources in some ?standard place?.
 
 The j2sdk-1_4_2_04-linux-i586.bin: response is just 
 the header declaring what you asked - any results
 follow this with complete paths.
 
 The usual command for finding files is 'locate'
 but this depends on a data base that is only updated
 once a week by default and then only if your machine
 in running at the appropriate time.
 You could use
   $ find / -name j2sdk-1_4_2_04-linux-i586.bin
 but with the search directed to the entire system 
 you can expect that this might take almost 
 forever. Much quicker would be
   $ find /usr/ports/distfiles -name j2sdk-1_4_2_04-linux-i586.bin
 
  I looked at the permissions of the file.
  they were rw-r--r--. I changed it to
  rwxr-xr-x. Didnt make any difference.
 
  The only other thing i noticed was that the
  file is a .bin, and the file type is listed
  as a shell script.
 
 What file type? You mean 
   $ file j2sdk-1_4_2_04-linux-i586.bin
 responds with script?
 It probably is and should be a Bourne shell script;
 take a look inside and make sure it is the required 
 file and not just a URL of the true file. This 
 sometimes happens.
 
 Failing that check very-very carefully that the file 
 name in distfiles is exactly the same as that asked 
 for by make. 
 
 Malcolm
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