Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?

2007-01-11 Thread Bill-Schoolcraft
At Thu, 11 Jan 2007 it looks like Nikolas Britton composed:

 On 1/10/07, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I dunno..Linux got _somewhere_ before big money came into it.
 
  Like I said..when Fbsd 2.5 was light _years_ ahead of Linux..sometime
  after that, focus was lost.
 
 
 USL v. BSDi happened.

I'm not that informed historically and was glad to get this little
tidbit a while ago when tracking down the history of Unix/Linux...

http://wiliweld.com/history.jpg

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Re: java plugin for firefox

2007-01-11 Thread Peter Nyamukusa
On Thursday 11 January 2007 00:51, eoghan wrote:
 On 10 Jan 2007, at 22:26, Vince Hoffman wrote:
  eoghan wrote:
  Hi
  Does anyone have a guide or advice for getting java plugin working
  for firefox? Im running 6.1 on amd.
  I have installed:
  diablo-jdk-5.0
  diablo-jre1.5.0
  linux-blackdown-jre1.1.8
  linux-sun-jdk1.4.2
  when i try to access a java app from firefox im always presented
  with the plugin missing page...
  I had it working on i386 before with just the installation of
  java... Im not sure what i have to do next...
 
  sounds like you may not have the correct files/links in your plugin
  directory.
  whats the output of
  ls -l /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins
 
  and
 
  ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/
 
  if /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins doesnt have a symlink like
  libjavaplugin_oji.so@ - /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/jre/plugin/i386/
  ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
  then try
  cd /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins  ln -s /usr/local/diablo-
  jdk1.5.0/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.solibjavaplugin_oji.so
 
  and restart firefox and look at
  about:plugins

 Hi
 I have tried this (neither output shows the java plugin).
 When i go to the actual folder it has jre and libjavaplugin_oji.so in
 there but with a red x beside them (Im using gnome)...
 I also cannot browse to the folder... i dont see a plugin folder
 under jdk1.5.0
 Any ideas?
 Thanks for your help
 Eoghan
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Why don't you install from source some thing like this

create a folder /usr/local/java
download the java source from the sun microsystems website 
(https://sdlc1d.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=4EDB4987ECCEBC4C4488D18F24CA7D84)
eg jre-1_5_0_09-linux-i586-rpm.bin and move it to /usr/local/java
make the file executable chmod 0777 jre-1_5_0_09-linux-i586-rpm.bin
then run ./jre-1_5_0_09-linux-i586-rpm.bin to install
the rest is all interactive
at some stage it will ask the path of your browsers and you can patch the 
plug-ins for as many browsers as you have
hope this helps

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Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?

2007-01-11 Thread perryh
Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:59:20PM -0800, Jeff Mohler wrote:

  Not all of us can program..but let me ask this question.
  
  Linux is all volunteer, how did it get so far ahead?

 It isn't.  People in the know like FreeBSD as a server which
 is where it is mostly targeted - to the professional environment
 as apposed to being a playtop.

Linux sure isn't all volunteer*, but it is certainly ahead in
terms of available commercial applications, else why would
anyone have gone to the trouble of building FreeBSD's Linux
API support?

* Until Red Hat went to 'EL, all of their technical folks were
working full-time on free Linux.  It's now less than 100% -- some
effort goes into their payware versions -- but still considerably
more than 0% last I heard.  Then we have Novell supporting SuSE,
IBM supporting Yellow Dog, Intel and IBM supporting OSDL (which
employs Linus himself, among others), and that's probably not a
complete list of even the major commercial players.  On the BSD
side, we have Apple (Darwin); and maybe a few others although
none come to mind immediately.

So why is Linux ahead in commercial support?  I'm sure I don't
have a clue as to most of the factors, but the fact that Linux
has somehow managed to avoid schisms in its kernel development
can't help but be an advantage.
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Strange Emacs autoloaded library

2007-01-11 Thread a
 I have removed the files
 menu-bar.el.gz
 menu-bar.elc
 from /usr/local/share/emacs/22.0.50/lisp.
 But load-history variable still shows me
 /usr/local/share/emacs/22.0.50/lisp/menu-bar.elc
 loaded and menu-bar appeared at emacs startup.
 
 What is this?
 
 Any other library from /usr/local/share/emacs/22.0.50/lisp/
 does not load being deleted.
 
 Elisej Babenko

I was wrong with the last thesis:
startup.el.gz
startup.elc
and may be some other libraries behave in the same strange manner.
They are loaded being deleted from /usr/local/share/emacs/22.0.50/lisp/.

My question is the same.
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Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?

2007-01-11 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 1/11/07, Bill-Schoolcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At Thu, 11 Jan 2007 it looks like Nikolas Britton composed:

 On 1/10/07, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I dunno..Linux got _somewhere_ before big money came into it.
 
  Like I said..when Fbsd 2.5 was light _years_ ahead of Linux..sometime
  after that, focus was lost.
 

 USL v. BSDi happened.

I'm not that informed historically and was glad to get this little
tidbit a while ago when tracking down the history of Unix/Linux...

http://wiliweld.com/history.jpg



The differences between the GPL and BSD licenses come into play as
well. I'm sure it was a combination of the lawsuit, license, and
marketing at the right moments that gave Linux the huge lead it has
now... and had nothing to do with it being better.

With all the code locked up in the GPL license today it will be
impossible for the BSD's to ever out code Linux... We lost this
battle... Guerrilla tactics are needed now, but the old crusties in
the group still think we have a chance using the antiquated ones.
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Is there a way to get List of Only those files in a filesystem which are modified on a specifict date?

2007-01-11 Thread VeeJay

Hi

Is there a way to get List of Only those files in a filesystem which are
modified on a specifict date?

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Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?

2007-01-11 Thread Howard Jones

Nikolas Britton wrote

Well that's just it... No way we could afford full rates, If we could
we would hire someone off the street to program x, y, and z to are
liking. I was talking about supporting someone who is already working
on x, y, and z because they have an itch to scratch... To help them
scratch that itch faster... What kind of funding would this type of
person need? §


But presumably the reason they aren't working fast enough for your 
liking is that they *are* doing it in their spare time. So anything 
beyond that is giving up the day job, which means paying as much as the 
day job did for that time... a man-hour is a man-hour, really. If you 
want to pay someone for *literally* what they are already doing, then 
I'm sure they would be happier, but it wouldn't make anything happen 
quicker, because it's still the same amount of time spent.

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Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?

2007-01-11 Thread Freminlins

On 10/01/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



A reason why you have less problems is I expect you using premium
hardware such as scsi, currently I am lucky enough to not be using
realtek lan cards although I am still having problems with intel nics.



I wouldn't term SCSI as premium. Maybe it used to be, but these days
machines are so cheap anyway. Nearly all our x86 boxes have Intel NICs. I
haven't had problems with them.

the specific nfs issues are related to mounting linux filesystems, I

am not the only one there is dozens of posts on these mailing lists
from users with the same problems, usually livelocks or panics caused
by mounting nfs filesystems on freebsd most seem to have no
resolution.



Funnily enough, I thought you were going to say you were mounting a Linux
NFS server. It is not surprising that Linux client to Linux server goes
together better than FreeBSD client to Linux server. It could of course be
the Linux NFS server implementation that is buggy, rather than the FreeBSD
client. As I've said, mounting NetApp filers I have no problems at all.

realtek isnt great hardware but is that a good reason for realtek

performing significantly worse then on linux, shouldnt it be on par?



I don't know. I haven't compared them. They are simply not high performance
network cards. I

issues of performance been worse, the biggest example is probably

mysql and uniprocessor performance, I understand with ule 2.0 mysql
performance is signficantly better so there is hope there, I would
like to see more performance from uniprocessor and the mp safe support
on nics set to disabled by default to put stability first.



Well, I agree with you on this. MySQL performance on FreeBSD is acceptable
for my purposes (not usually intensive), but it is not as good as Linux.
I've read as much about this as possible, and tried using options and thread
libraries. But this has not fixed the problem.

But, on many other things I don't see a performance problem at all. I think
it's important to give exact examples rather than saying performance has
been worse. If you said MySQL performance is worse. I've seen a
performance problem with ClamAV. Funnily enough, both ClamAV and MySQL are
threaded applications, so I'm guessing that the FreeBSD threading is the
source (cause) of the performance problem for these apps.

The installer well that comes down to using a variety of datacentres,

quite often datacentre staff are not too well trained and mainly used
to redhat and windows gui installers, so when it comes to freebsd
there is many datacentres who dont even support freebsd when I ask is
because they say it wont install, the ones that do support freebsd the
feedback I get off them is often related to both the installer been a
pain for them and hardware compatibility.



One of our Windows techies learned how to do a FreeBSD install in fifteen
minutes. If someone really cannot learn it, they shouldn't be anywhere near
datacentres. If they can't handle the FreeBSD install, I have no idea how
they would handle Solaris, which is much less friendly and definitely
belongs in  datacentres. And Solaris on non-Sun hardware has less
compatibiltiy than FreeBSD.

How much testing goes into heavy workloads such as heavy apache loads

and DDOS attacks?



I don't know. But you are free to vounteer to do this!

I expect my server to not livelock and come back to

responsiveness after such loads without having to reboot it.  Freebsd
4.x was incredibly stable under heavy ddos attacks, freebsd 5.x held
out but of course was very slow on UP, freebsd 6.x is faster but has
suffered stability problems.



I agree that the 4.x series was (is) very stable - we still have some in
use.


On the performance side get the sata and raid problems sorted for

improved hd performance tagged ququeing etc.

Is there a sort of hire a dev button on the freebsd website?



I guess you could make a contribution to the foundation.

Chris




Frem.
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Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?

2007-01-11 Thread Freminlins

On 11/01/07, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



The basic reason is that a ../.. walk invalidates cached metadata, and
you end up with a pipe full of getattr's all of the time.  Freebsd-fs
has discussed this a bit, but no fixing is coming soon.  We use linux
to compile builds, we'd like to use Freebsd, but linux on Filers via
NFS is about 3x faster than the same builds on Fbsd to the same filer.
  ../.. baby.




Did you try different mount options on the FreeBSD clients. I have no idea,
but Linux may have different defaults.

Frem.
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Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-11 Thread Andrea Venturoli

Jay Chandler wrote:


Apart from that, I used to be able to sysinsall a machine booting via
PXE. This doesn't work anymore in recent versions :-(
Or maybe it is just my incompetence, but then, if someone managed
this, I'd like to hear about it.


This definitely works with 6.1-RELEASE, as I've just had the nice


Hmm, I had problems setting the tmp filesystem up.
I'll have a look at the docs you suggested and try again.





Please don't get any graphics bloatware in the way. :-)


Amen.

Really, if you are put off by the installer, then once that has
completed., the rest of the management tools (i.e. vi) are not going
give you the warm fuzzies either. If you need the graphical management,


Really, you might have understood me wrong.
I do *NOT* want a graphic installer. And I'm not using any graphic 
management tool thereafter either.



 bye  Thanks
av.

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Re: Is there a way to get List of Only those files in a filesystem which are modified on a specifict date?

2007-01-11 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On Thursday 11 January 2007 10:45, VeeJay wrote:
 Hi
 
 Is there a way to get List of Only those files in a filesystem which are
 modified on a specifict date?
 

Yes, read find(1) man.

In short:
find ${DIRECTORY} -mtime 8
This will give you the files which were modified 8 days before
in directory ${DIRECTORY}.

find ${DIRECTORY} -mtime -8
This will give you the files which were modified 8 days ago
and afterwards in directory ${DIRECTORY}.

There is also -newerXY option which might be interesting.

HTH, Nikos
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Re: /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable/All

2007-01-11 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 02:00:08AM -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 05:57:56PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
  Hi Kris,
  
  I know things must be pretty busy with 6.2, but is there any chance that
  the 5.5-STABLE packages can be updated soon?  I just checked again, and
  at least apache and phpyadmin are still stale, going on two months now.
 
 Mark, what is the status of the upload of these packages?

The past 9 days I was sitting at various pay-fer internet cafes and thus
have not dealt with i386-5 (I had hoped it was going to be finished while
I was still in Munich and had the wireless).

I had thought of 'sending the reminder mails' and 'uploading the packages'
as one unit, but I suppose I should have split them up.  The former was
not feasible from the cafes.

I am now back but suffering from jet-lag so it will be another more 12
hours or so before I can look at the reminder-mails.  (I had a 25-hour
travel marathon between Koln and Houston.)

mcl

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[SOLVED] re(4) incorrect checksum

2007-01-11 Thread Pietro Cerutti

Hi lists,
ifconfig re0 -txcsum -rxcsum solved the problem

Anyway, is this a bug in the driver or in the interface itself?

Thanx, regards

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Subject: re(4) incorrect checksum
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Hi lists,

FreeBSD gahrtop.localhost 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #1:
Tue Jan  9 19:34:13 CET 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GAHRTOP  i386

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200  @ 2.00GHz (2000.15-MHz 686-class CPU)
 Cores per package: 2

re0: RealTek 8168B/8111B PCIe Gigabit Ethernet port 0xc800-0xc8ff
mem 0xff2ff000-0xff2f irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci2

($FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/re/if_re.c,v 1.46.2.20 2006/09/21 11:08:28 yongari Exp $)

I get checksum errors on every packet I send, example:

Checksum: 0x0bc5 [incorrect, should be 0x78fe (maybe caused by
checksum offloading?)]

I think this could be the cause of some web pages (e.g. Gmail in
standard view [html view works well]) not to be displayed.

I tracked down the problem to the re(4) driver just because wlan works good...

Any ideas?


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re(4) incorrect checksum

2007-01-11 Thread Pietro Cerutti

Hi lists,

FreeBSD gahrtop.localhost 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #1:
Tue Jan  9 19:34:13 CET 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GAHRTOP  i386

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200  @ 2.00GHz (2000.15-MHz 686-class CPU)
 Cores per package: 2

re0: RealTek 8168B/8111B PCIe Gigabit Ethernet port 0xc800-0xc8ff
mem 0xff2ff000-0xff2f irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci2

($FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/re/if_re.c,v 1.46.2.20 2006/09/21 11:08:28 yongari Exp $)

I get checksum errors on every packet I send, example:

Checksum: 0x0bc5 [incorrect, should be 0x78fe (maybe caused by
checksum offloading?)]

I think this could be the cause of some web pages (e.g. Gmail in
standard view [html view works well]) not to be displayed.

I tracked down the problem to the re(4) driver just because wlan works good...

Any ideas?


Thanx,

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Re: Is there a way to get List of Only those files in a filesystem which are modified on a specifict date?

2007-01-11 Thread George Vanev

Here is an example with todays date
find / -exec stat -f %N %Sm -t %m-%d-%Y {} \; | grep 01-11-2007 | cut
-d' ' -f1


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Hi

Is there a way to get List of Only those files in a filesystem which are
modified on a specifict date?

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Fwd: [SOLVED] re(4) incorrect checksum

2007-01-11 Thread Pietro Cerutti

On 1/11/07, Bernd Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 11:51:51AM +0100, Pietro Cerutti wrote:
 Hi lists,
 ifconfig re0 -txcsum -rxcsum solved the problem

 Anyway, is this a bug in the driver or in the interface itself?

That is how checksum offloading works.
tcpdump can't see a correct checksum, because it is not calculated
by the kernel and left for the hardware.


Yes, I got it.


However checksum offloading is broken for re(4) based cards, therefor
it is disabled by default.


I don't think so at least, I did nothing to enable it, but it were
indeed enabled (RXCSUM,TXCSU showed up in the options field shown by
ifconfig)



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Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?

2007-01-11 Thread Oliver Fromme
Just a few small notes ...

Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  realtek isnt great hardware but is that a good reason for realtek
  performing significantly worse then on linux, shouldnt it be on par?

Mu old notebook (2001) has a realtek rl(4) card.  It's not
rocket fast, but it just works with FreeBSD.  There's also
an rl(4) card that came with my DSL modem, and it just
works in my FreeBSD router box, too.

When I buy a NIC for any purpose, I try to avoid realtek
cards, though.

  issues of performance been worse, the biggest example is probably
  mysql and uniprocessor performance, I understand with ule 2.0 mysql
  performance is signficantly better so there is hope there, I would
  like to see more performance from uniprocessor and the mp safe support
  on nics set to disabled by default to put stability first.

With the latest FreeBSD RELENG_6, libthr and optimized time
counter settings (TSC), I get the same mysql performance
under FreeBSD as under Linux.

  The installer well that comes down to using a variety of datacentres,
  quite often datacentre staff are not too well trained and mainly used
  to redhat and windows gui installers, so when it comes to freebsd
  there is many datacentres who dont even support freebsd when I ask is
  because they say it wont install, the ones that do support freebsd the
  feedback I get off them is often related to both the installer been a
  pain for them and hardware compatibility.

To be honest, I like the installer from DragonFly BSD.
It's easier and more intuitive to use.  However, FreeBSD's
sysinstall is _far_ better than NetBSD's or OpenBSD's
installers (at least when I last had to deal with them,
about one year ago).

Actually, as far as I know, DragonFly BSD's installer is
intended to be fairly portable, and I seem to remember
that someone was working on porting it to FreeBSD.  But
I have now idea what the status of that effort is.

  Is there a sort of hire a dev button on the freebsd website?

There's a donate button, though you can't select a
sepcific developer or area of interest that way.  If
you want to hire a dev, it might be helpful to post
a message to one of the more specialist lists (e.g.
if you want to hire someone for improving, say, the
file system code, then post to the freebsd-fs list).

If you're very lucky, someone might be interested in
your problem and even do it for free because it's an
interesting challenge, or he could use a solution for
that problem himself.  If you're even more lucky,
someone who had the same problem already did a fix
and shares it with you.

Somewhere on the web site there's also a list of
companies providing commercial support, some of which
also offer development/programming services (including
the company I work for).

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: [SOLVED] re(4) incorrect checksum

2007-01-11 Thread Bernd Walter
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 11:51:51AM +0100, Pietro Cerutti wrote:
 Hi lists,
 ifconfig re0 -txcsum -rxcsum solved the problem
 
 Anyway, is this a bug in the driver or in the interface itself?

That is how checksum offloading works.
tcpdump can't see a correct checksum, because it is not calculated 
by the kernel and left for the hardware.
However checksum offloading is broken for re(4) based cards, therefor
it is disabled by default.

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Re: /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable/All

2007-01-11 Thread Ian Smith
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 at 04:17:21 -0600, Mark Linimon wrote:
  On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 02:00:08AM -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote:
   On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 05:57:56PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
Hi Kris,

I know things must be pretty busy with 6.2, but is there any chance that
the 5.5-STABLE packages can be updated soon?  I just checked again, and
at least apache and phpyadmin are still stale, going on two months now.
   
   Mark, what is the status of the upload of these packages?
  
  The past 9 days I was sitting at various pay-fer internet cafes and thus
  have not dealt with i386-5 (I had hoped it was going to be finished while
  I was still in Munich and had the wireless).
  
  I had thought of 'sending the reminder mails' and 'uploading the packages'
  as one unit, but I suppose I should have split them up.  The former was
  not feasible from the cafes.
  
  I am now back but suffering from jet-lag so it will be another more 12
  hours or so before I can look at the reminder-mails.  (I had a 25-hour
  travel marathon between Koln and Houston.)

Hey, get some sleep, have a day off .. you're worth more to us alive :)

Thanks guys,

Ian

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Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-11 Thread Niek

On Tuesday 09 January 2007 08:21, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:



 3) The largest complaint about sysinstall is that it's not graphical.  The
 problem is that a graphical installation program has some -severe-
 constraints on it.  First, it has to work in ALL instances.  That means,
 640x480x16 colors VGA screen.  You have a lot of people out there
 installing on systems that have, for example, monitors with inadequate
 horizontal/vertical frequency ranges and very capabable video cards,
 unless you force the X-server to use the original VGA resolution, it's
 going to overdrive those monitors and the user is going to see a black
 screen when the installation program comes up.  And the only way FreeBSD
 is going to get a graphical anything is by using Xorg, and FreeBSD does
 not maintain that distribution - so we are now dependent on the Xorg
 group writing their code with no bugs for our installation program to work.

While I admit that sysinstall could be polished at the rough edges, I vote for a non-graphical installer for server aimed installations. I see no practical reason to have an X based installer for a server installation at all, with all the heavy stuff that's necessary for it. Please leave that to the desktop oriented BSD distributions. I wonder how many server admins would like to see an X based installer. 

I rather would propose a clear distinction (communicated to new users) between desktop aimed distributions and server based ones, where the first category would be the current distribution of FreeBSD, with a nice graphical installer, a window manager, drivers for most sound, usb, wireless and video devices, and desktop applications added to it. I am not familiar with desktopBSD and Freesbie, but I can imagine that these are already working in that direction. (I am using FreeBSD-current as a desktop OS on a laptop, but it required some days of tweaking to get sound, touchpad  usb mouse, 1280x800 resolution and wireless networking running.)  

Niek 


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help

2007-01-11 Thread lekshmanan prabhakaran

hi
my name is lekshman i did a fresh installation of FreeBSD 6.1 on my
Travelmate laptop 2420, the installation was fine but i am getting these
errors on TTY0 console .
---
kernel: ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_TZ_.TZSV._TMP]
(Node 0xc214b020), AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE
ACPI-0501: *** Error: Handler for [EmbeddedControl] returned
AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE

These two errors happens in the same minute and every few minutes:
May 31 00:07:52 Scarface kernel: ACPI-0501: *** Error: Handler for
[EmbeddedControl] returned AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE
May 31 00:07:52 Scarface kernel: ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution
failed [\_TZ_.TZSV._TMP] (Node 0xc214b020), AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE
May 31 00:08:12 Scarface kernel: ACPI-0501: *** Error: Handler for
[EmbeddedControl] returned AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE
May 31 00:08:12 Scarface kernel: ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution
failed [\_TZ_.TZS0._TMP] (Node 0xc214b020)AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE
May 31 00:08:22 Scarface kernel: ACPI-0501: *** Error: Handler for
[EmbeddedControl] returned AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE
May 31 00:08:22 Scarface kernel: ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution
failed [\_TZ_.TZS1._TMP] (Node 0xc214b020), AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE
---
This is keep on repeating but there is no problem with other consoles from
tty1 to tty8 and KDE GUI is working fine.Please help me with this ,is it
going to bring my computer down.

Thanking you

Lekshman
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Re: [SOLVED] re(4) incorrect checksum

2007-01-11 Thread Pyun YongHyeon
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 11:51:51AM +0100, Pietro Cerutti wrote:
  Hi lists,
  ifconfig re0 -txcsum -rxcsum solved the problem
  

In if_re.c, rev 1.46.2.18 wpaul@ fixed a long standing checksum
offload issue by padding. Does re(4) work when you disable only Tx
checksum offload?(i.e. ifconfig re0 -txcsum)

  Anyway, is this a bug in the driver or in the interface itself?
  
  Thanx, regards
  
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Pietro Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Jan 11, 2007 11:29 AM
  Subject: re(4) incorrect checksum
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
  
  
  Hi lists,
  
  FreeBSD gahrtop.localhost 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #1:
  Tue Jan  9 19:34:13 CET 2007
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GAHRTOP  i386
  
  CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200  @ 2.00GHz (2000.15-MHz 686-class 
  CPU)
   Cores per package: 2
  
  re0: RealTek 8168B/8111B PCIe Gigabit Ethernet port 0xc800-0xc8ff
  mem 0xff2ff000-0xff2f irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci2
  
  ($FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/re/if_re.c,v 1.46.2.20 2006/09/21 11:08:28 yongari 
  Exp $)
  
  I get checksum errors on every packet I send, example:
  
  Checksum: 0x0bc5 [incorrect, should be 0x78fe (maybe caused by
  checksum offloading?)]
  
  I think this could be the cause of some web pages (e.g. Gmail in
  standard view [html view works well]) not to be displayed.
  
  I tracked down the problem to the re(4) driver just because wlan works 
  good...
  
  Any ideas?
  
  
  Thanx,
  
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Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-11 Thread Nejc Škoberne

Hey,

Please leave that to the desktop oriented BSD distributions. I wonder 
how many server admins would like to see an X based installer.


Not me.

Bye,
Nejc


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RE: unable to load kernel

2007-01-11 Thread Brian Levie
Many thanks, that solved the problem

Brian 

-Original Message-
From: Pieter de Goeje [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 January 2007 07:01
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: Brian Levie
Subject: Re: unable to load kernel

On Monday 08 January 2007 16:47, Brian Levie wrote:
 After installing FreeBSD 6.1, I get the error message ‘Unable to load
 kernel’ and it goes to an OK prompt.  I suspect the problem is in the
 geometry, when installing I get the message  ’Geometry of 238316/16/63
 for ad0 is incorrect.  Using a more likely geometry’.   And appears to
 use 14946/255/63.However the BIOS shows 58853/16/255, but
attempting
 to use this produces the same error message.   The system has a 200Gb
 hard disk, all but the last 1.5Gb is Windows XP, and it is the last
 1.5Gb I have tried to install FreeBSD.  Any suggestions would be much
 appreciated.
No, the problem is that you do not have a kernel installed. When you
come to 
the distribution part in sysinstall (FreeBSD's installation program),
make 
sure you have selected at least one of the two available kernels in
Binary 
kernel distributions (required).
Good Luck!

Cheers,
Pieter

PS. Although you certainly _can_ install FreeBSD on a 1.5GB partition, I
would 
recommend more than 1.5GB for FreeBSD (for a fully configured system, 8+
GB 
would be apropriate)

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Re: Dell PE 1950 - Only seeing 3.2 gigs of ram

2007-01-11 Thread Jeff MacDonald

Jeff MacDonald wrote:
 Hi,

 I put a fresh install of 6.1-RELEASE on a dell poweredge 1950 server.
 It's configured with 4 gigs of ram.

 However when I boot i get the following right before DMESG

 786432k above 4GB ignored

 Which is strange, but then dmesg shows this

 real memory  = 3489300480 (3327 MB)
 avail memory = 3414659072 (3256 MB)

 Soo I'm at a bit of a loss.

You're using the 32-bit version, right? The design of x86 architecture
(i.e. it's not FreeBSD's problem) is such that a part of memory
addresses needs to be set aside for hardware uses, such as the PCI bus,
AGP memory  others. This manifests as holes in memory that are not
accessible to OS.

There are two possible solutions: you may try compiling a 32-bit kernel
with PAE (but not all drivers support PAE), or install the 64-bit
version of FreeBSD.


Well I hate when people say this, but I'm going to say it.. :)

When I did a default install of ubuntu, it saw all 4 gigs without a
hitch. So does that mean it already includes PAE, or something else ?

Aside, I will read up on PAE.  I'll read up about 64 bit as well, I've
been hesitant to make the jump only cause any word of mouth i've heard
said  that it's not ready for production. Maybe that's off base, it's
only what i've heard

Thanks !

Jeff.
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Re: Dell PE 1950 - Only seeing 3.2 gigs of ram

2007-01-11 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Jeff MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Jeff MacDonald wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I put a fresh install of 6.1-RELEASE on a dell poweredge 1950 server.
   It's configured with 4 gigs of ram.
  
   However when I boot i get the following right before DMESG
  
   786432k above 4GB ignored
  
   Which is strange, but then dmesg shows this
  
   real memory  = 3489300480 (3327 MB)
   avail memory = 3414659072 (3256 MB)
  
   Soo I'm at a bit of a loss.
 
  You're using the 32-bit version, right? The design of x86 architecture
  (i.e. it's not FreeBSD's problem) is such that a part of memory
  addresses needs to be set aside for hardware uses, such as the PCI bus,
  AGP memory  others. This manifests as holes in memory that are not
  accessible to OS.
 
  There are two possible solutions: you may try compiling a 32-bit kernel
  with PAE (but not all drivers support PAE), or install the 64-bit
  version of FreeBSD.
 
 Well I hate when people say this, but I'm going to say it.. :)
 
 When I did a default install of ubuntu, it saw all 4 gigs without a
 hitch. So does that mean it already includes PAE, or something else ?

One of those two.  You sure you didn't install a 64-bit version of Ubuntu?

 Aside, I will read up on PAE.  I'll read up about 64 bit as well, I've
 been hesitant to make the jump only cause any word of mouth i've heard
 said  that it's not ready for production. Maybe that's off base, it's
 only what i've heard

We're deploying a lot of 64 bit stuff around here.  Our experience has
been that the OS is as solid on amd64 as it is on i386.  Server applications
are the same.  There are, however, a lot of desktop applications that are
still flaky on 64-bit -- mostly non-mainstream ones.  We got in a crunch
and had to reinstall a workstation back to i386 because of it, or I would
have filed some bug reports.

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Re: How dangerous a Standard User could be to a FreeBSD box?

2007-01-11 Thread Nathan Vidican

James Long wrote:

Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:47:52 -0800
From: Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How dangerous a Standard User could be to a FreeBSD box?
To: Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: FreeBSD-Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org,VeeJay
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Giorgos Keramidas wrote:


On 2007-01-10 13:24, VeeJay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  

Hi
How dangerous a Standard User could be to a FreeBSD box?



Depending on local setup, this could range from 'not at all' to
'extremely'.  Do you have a *specific* setup in mind?

 
  
Standard user with the root password, a bag of explosives, a .45 magnum, 
and a chip on his shoulder, say?



Yeah, and even a user with no account or password, a screwdriver, and
a Mountain Dew.

Jim
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Gotcha all beat, screw the 'standard user' issue... I had a client call 
me once cause the office cat peed onto/into the server; no technical 
expertise required whatsoever, no password, no re-wiring of network, 
heck no opposable digits even or anything else for that matter, yet it 
still managed to kill the server ;)


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Re: Dell PE 1950 - Only seeing 3.2 gigs of ram

2007-01-11 Thread Jeff MacDonald

 Well I hate when people say this, but I'm going to say it.. :)

 When I did a default install of ubuntu, it saw all 4 gigs without a
 hitch. So does that mean it already includes PAE, or something else ?

One of those two.  You sure you didn't install a 64-bit version of Ubuntu?


Fairly sure :)


 Aside, I will read up on PAE.  I'll read up about 64 bit as well, I've
 been hesitant to make the jump only cause any word of mouth i've heard
 said  that it's not ready for production. Maybe that's off base, it's
 only what i've heard

We're deploying a lot of 64 bit stuff around here.  Our experience has
been that the OS is as solid on amd64 as it is on i386.  Server applications
are the same.  There are, however, a lot of desktop applications that are
still flaky on 64-bit -- mostly non-mainstream ones.  We got in a crunch
and had to reinstall a workstation back to i386 because of it, or I would
have filed some bug reports.


Yeah, that's likly true what you say about server vs desktop. I'm
going to slap a 64 bit copy on now and see how it does.

Jeff.
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Re: general question about packages and ports working together

2007-01-11 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 8:38 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 03:30:18AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote:

  Fetching
  ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/All/k
  delibs-3.5.1_1.tbz... Done.
  pkg_add: package 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' conflicts with kdelibs-nocups-3.5.5
  pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to remove conflicting package(s)
  or -f to f
  orce installation
  pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' failed!
  vagabund#

 That's the problem, you have a conflicting package (kdelibs built with
 WITHOUT_CUPS set) installed.  If you really want to use packages
 you'll need to revert that to the standard setting of including cups
 support.

Well, that and he's trying to install -RELEASE packages on a -RELEASE system 
with -STABLE ports.  How does one tell ports to install -STABLE packages - 
is that uname-dependent?
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Re: Strange Emacs autoloaded library

2007-01-11 Thread Lowell Gilbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have removed the files
 menu-bar.el.gz
 menu-bar.elc
 from /usr/local/share/emacs/22.0.50/lisp.
 But load-history variable still shows me
 /usr/local/share/emacs/22.0.50/lisp/menu-bar.elc
 loaded and menu-bar appeared at emacs startup.
 
 What is this?
 
 Any other library from /usr/local/share/emacs/22.0.50/lisp/
 does not load being deleted.
 
 Elisej Babenko

 I was wrong with the last thesis:
 startup.el.gz
 startup.elc
 and may be some other libraries behave in the same strange manner.
 They are loaded being deleted from /usr/local/share/emacs/22.0.50/lisp/.

 My question is the same.

Some libraries are dumped with the executable. 
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Re: Dell PE 1950 - Only seeing 3.2 gigs of ram

2007-01-11 Thread Ivan Voras
Jeff MacDonald wrote:

 When I did a default install of ubuntu, it saw all 4 gigs without a
 hitch. So does that mean it already includes PAE, or something else ?

Yes, AFAIK some newer Linuxes (and Windows SP2) include PAE by default.

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Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-11 Thread Oliver Fromme
Niek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  

3) The largest complaint about sysinstall is that it's not graphical.  
The
problem is that a graphical installation program has some -severe-
constraints on it.  First, it has to work in ALL instances.  That means,
640x480x16 colors VGA screen.  You have a lot of people out there
installing on systems that have, for example, monitors with inadequate
horizontal/vertical frequency ranges and very capabable video cards,
unless you force the X-server to use the original VGA resolution, it's
going to overdrive those monitors and the user is going to see a black
screen when the installation program comes up.  And the only way FreeBSD
is going to get a graphical anything is by using Xorg, and FreeBSD does
not maintain that distribution - so we are now dependent on the Xorg
group writing their code with no bugs for our installation program to 
work.
   
  While I admit that sysinstall could be polished at the rough edges,
  I vote for a non-graphical installer for server aimed installations.

Nobody is going to put a graphical-only installer in
FreeBSD.  How do people get that idea?

Currently, FreeBSD's installer runs on standard VGA
graphics cards, on monochrome Hercules cards, on serial
VT100 terminals, maybe even on hardcopy terminals and
everything else that you could imagine.  Not to mention
the scriptability for easy installation of a larger
number of headless machines.

And all of that won't change.  If the installer --
sysinstall or other -- will support graphical mode
one day, it will be an addition, not a replacement.

For example, look at the BSD installer that's used
by DragonFly BSD:  It consists of the actual code
that performas the various installation actions (and
is also scriptable), and supports a number of front-
ends.  The standard front-end is curses-based and will
run in text mode on any VGA and serial terminal.  But
you could as well have a graphical front-end or a web-
based front-end.  Or one that communicates with your
cell-phone.  Or whatever else you could think of.
All based on the same installer code (back-end).

If FreeBSD grows a new installer, I' sure it will use
similar concepts.

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: general question about packages and ports working together

2007-01-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 07:58:08AM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 January 2007 8:38 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote:
  On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 03:30:18AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote:
 
   Fetching
   ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/All/k
   delibs-3.5.1_1.tbz... Done.
   pkg_add: package 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' conflicts with kdelibs-nocups-3.5.5
   pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to remove conflicting package(s)
   or -f to f
   orce installation
   pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' failed!
   vagabund#
 
  That's the problem, you have a conflicting package (kdelibs built with
  WITHOUT_CUPS set) installed.  If you really want to use packages
  you'll need to revert that to the standard setting of including cups
  support.
 
 Well, that and he's trying to install -RELEASE packages on a -RELEASE system 
 with -STABLE ports.  How does one tell ports to install -STABLE packages - 
 is that uname-dependent?

Yeah, if uname = *-STABLE it gets the stable packages.  You can just
set PACKAGESITE if you want to use the poorly-tested but updated
stable packages on a release system.

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Re: How dangerous a Standard User could be to a FreeBSD box?

2007-01-11 Thread Oliver Fromme
Nathan Vidican wrote:
  James Long wrote:
   Yeah, and even a user with no account or password, a screwdriver, and
   a Mountain Dew.
  
  Gotcha all beat, screw the 'standard user' issue... I had a client call 
  me once cause the office cat peed onto/into the server; no technical 
  expertise required whatsoever, no password, no re-wiring of network, 
  heck no opposable digits even or anything else for that matter, yet it 
  still managed to kill the server ;)

Reminds me of this one ...

http://www.secnetix.de/~olli/fun/bruteforce-cat.jpg

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?

2007-01-11 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 07:52:29PM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:

 On 1/10/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/01/07, Josef Grosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:44:36AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
   On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:01:51AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
  
On 1/9/07, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

 ... much excised ...

 Monday
  morning quarterbacks.
 
  Josef
 
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 What I think freebsd needs.
 
 1 - To fix stuff that works in linux but goes to crap in freebsd, one
 such example is NFS.
 2 - A better installer, this is probably the biggest single thing that
 puts people of freebsd, the less people using freebsd the less funds
 likely to be recieved.
 
 
 Could you articulate on point 2?... I don't really see that as a problem.

Well, for me, I find that the installer problems are that some of the 
wording for some of the choices seems unclear and sometimes you seem 
to have to go back to go forward and things like that.   I know that 
there is an intent to allow you to back up any time (as long as you 
haven't passed a point of no return like writing the disklabel) and 
make changes and add or subtract things, but still, it could make it
more clear what stage you are at, what is finished and what is next
to do, etc. 

But, as others have said, I have found it to be quite functional
and installation really quite easy outside of some of the awkwardnesses.

As for his point on funds, I am not sure, but I suppose he is
presuming that if people get turned off by the installer, then
they won't be FreeBSD enthusiasts who make donations or something.

jerry

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Re: Porting Acrobat 9 to FBSD Mozilla / Opera and OT: installer promotion (was Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?)

2007-01-11 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 11:07:04PM -0500, Dak Ghatikachalam wrote:

 I think it is about time that FREEBSD OS gets the act together  by
 integrating  all the plugins for firefox.
 
 I have been trying to make these plugins work,

Really, isnt't that a Firefox/Mozilla thing, plus possibly the
creaters/maintainers of the plugins?
FreeBSD does not create or maintain Firefox or the plugins.
FreeBSD only accepts the port[s] to be in the FreeBSD ports 
collection.  That's the way ports work.

So, maybe you should get on the horn to the Firefox people.
and maybe some people who support some of the plugins.

jerry


 not sure what more we need  countering all plugins for firefox
 
 which could make work all, right now I could only view the video in cnn.com.
 
 Others like ABC news, google video, youtube, msnbc.ocm,  and so many other
 news networks, in general anything   the videos from web browser are not
 working
 
 either it is expecting the flash player ( I configured this but does not
 seem to work) or shockwave player
 
 I found this  linux tutorial giving some insight
 http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialMozillaConfiguration.html#PLUGINS
 
 This is such a big deal, that we could not view any videos in firefox,
 
 I have compiled the mplayer, but that makes he cnn.com work not sure the
 same mplayer can be used in the place of  all those plugins out here.
 
 and then there is that big discussion I see in freebsd last month
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2006-December.txt.gz
 
 
 regards
 Dak
 
 
 
 
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 Scott Mitchell wrote:
  On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 02:32:41PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
  Scott and Nikolas,
   I'll try to get the linuxplugin-wrapper port to work with Flash9
  for Linux and then I'll submit the change upstream to the maintainer. I
  too am tired of the fact that Flash is so ubiquitous, but don't have
  much choice but to get it working.
   Aw well.. when in Rome, one must do as the Romans do.. even if
  it involves hideous plugins/content :).
 
  Garrett,
 
  That would be cool - I've not tried anything newer than Flash 7,
 although I
  guess there wasn't anything newer until recently, for Linux
 anyway.  Would
  be great if you could get it to work.
 
  I've just noticed that there's a www/opera-linuxplugins port that
 appears
  to install Opera 9.10 with the necessary configuration tweaks to use
 Linux
  plugins.  It should just be a matter of installing that, then adding the
  install dirs of the various plugins to Opera's plugin path...
 
  Cheers,
 
Scott
 
 Yup, I know. I'll take a look into the opera linuxplugin wrapper port
 too so I can get both Mozilla and Opera sync'ed. I should start work
 sometime this weekend because I need to finish off another project
 (Javascript / HTML-based installer and package updater for work) before
 I move to California.
 
 Speaking of which, any Windows admins on this list want me to post the
 source for the installer / updater / package manager on sourceforge? It
 may come in handy. I don't expect anyone to use it for Unix since
 scripting in Unix is excellent already, but I'm going to automatically
 add in Windows support and maybe Mac OSX support as well, but that's
 iffy.. I'm only going to working for my IT firm for a while, so support
 would be beer-based funding, if anyone's interested :D.
 
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Re: Laptop speaker vs earphone

2007-01-11 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 12:29:45AM -0500, Lion G. wrote:

 Hi all, I have a weird question.
 
 In my previous many laptops, whenever I plug in
 the earphone, the laptop speaker would stop
 (and I would only hear music through the earphone)
 
 With my newest laptop (Acer Aspire 5050),
 the laptop speaker stays on no-matter-what.
 I would hear the same music in both
 the speaker and the earphone.
 
 I'm using Ariff Abdullah's snd_hda driver on 6.2-RC2.
 The driver reports:
 pcm0: ATI SB450 High Definition Audio Controller mem 
 0xc000-0xc0003fff irq 16 at device 20.2 on pci0
 pcm0: HDA Codec: Realtek ALC883
 pcm0: HDA Driver Revision: 20061210_0037
 
 Another piece of info:
 The microphone hole has both the microphone symbol
 and the SPDIF symbol on it. Apparently the laptop
 uses the same hole for both plugging in a stereo microphone
 and plugging in a SPDIF device.
 
 Also, none of the items in the mixer helps:
 they raise or drop both the speaker+earphone volume simultaneously.

This is not a software issue.
Some jacks are built with a make-and-break setup.  With that, when
the plug goes in, it presses back a contact that functions as a
switch for some other circuit - in this case, one that drives
the onboard speaker - thus disconnecting it whil the plug is in.
Apparently your new piece of hardware does not have that feature.
Probably they were cheaping out by a few cents.
The only fix is to replace the jack.   Unfortunately it is probably
built in, in such a way as to be very difficult to replace.

jerry

 
 I'm out of ideas. Has any one seen something like this?
 
 Thanks all!
 
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Re: Laptop speaker vs earphone

2007-01-11 Thread Vince
Jerry McAllister wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 12:29:45AM -0500, Lion G. wrote:
 
 Hi all, I have a weird question.

 In my previous many laptops, whenever I plug in
 the earphone, the laptop speaker would stop
 (and I would only hear music through the earphone)

 With my newest laptop (Acer Aspire 5050),
 the laptop speaker stays on no-matter-what.
 I would hear the same music in both
 the speaker and the earphone.

 I'm using Ariff Abdullah's snd_hda driver on 6.2-RC2.
 The driver reports:
 pcm0: ATI SB450 High Definition Audio Controller mem 
 0xc000-0xc0003fff irq 16 at device 20.2 on pci0
 pcm0: HDA Codec: Realtek ALC883
 pcm0: HDA Driver Revision: 20061210_0037

 Another piece of info:
 The microphone hole has both the microphone symbol
 and the SPDIF symbol on it. Apparently the laptop
 uses the same hole for both plugging in a stereo microphone
 and plugging in a SPDIF device.

 Also, none of the items in the mixer helps:
 they raise or drop both the speaker+earphone volume simultaneously.
 
 This is not a software issue.
 Some jacks are built with a make-and-break setup.  With that, when
 the plug goes in, it presses back a contact that functions as a
 switch for some other circuit - in this case, one that drives
 the onboard speaker - thus disconnecting it whil the plug is in.
 Apparently your new piece of hardware does not have that feature.
 Probably they were cheaping out by a few cents.
 The only fix is to replace the jack.   Unfortunately it is probably
 built in, in such a way as to be very difficult to replace.

Actually i had this same problem with the first version of Ariff's
driver which went away when I used a later version. I would have thought
it a hardware issue as Jerry suggests if I didnt have my system as a
dual boot (it worked fine in windows.)
are you using the latest version from
http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/

if not then its worth a try. it could be worth asking on
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information you should supply.


Vince


 
 jerry
 
 I'm out of ideas. Has any one seen something like this?

 Thanks all!

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Re: [SOLVED] re(4) incorrect checksum

2007-01-11 Thread Pietro Cerutti

On 1/11/07, Pyun YongHyeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In if_re.c, rev 1.46.2.18 wpaul@ fixed a long standing checksum
offload issue by padding. Does re(4) work when you disable only Tx
checksum offload?(i.e. ifconfig re0 -txcsum)


yes, because -txcsum also disables Rx checksum on my NIC.

# ifconfig re0

options=1bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING

# ifconfig re0 -txcsum

options=18VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING



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RE: SuperMicro 2U servers?

2007-01-11 Thread Philippe Lang
I wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Is anyone using FreeBSD 6.X in production on SuperMicro 2U servers?
 
 http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/2U/

More specifically:

The motherboard of the server I'm interested in is:

http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/5000P/X7DBE.cfm

In the OS compatibility list, Super Micro does not mention anything
regarding FreeBSD 6.0...

http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/OS/5000PCompatibility.cfm

Does that mean untested, or uncompatible?

Bye

Philppe
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RESOLVED (RE: Laptop speaker vs earphone)

2007-01-11 Thread Lion G.

Thanks everyone, and especially a big thank
to awesome Ariff Abdullah who solved it and
confirmed it was software-based on this laptop!

Lion Tanker wrote:
In my previous many laptops, whenever I plug in the earphone, the laptop 
speaker

would stop (and I would only hear music through the earphone)
With my newest laptop (Acer Aspire 5050), the laptop speaker stays on 
no-matter-what.

I would hear the same music in both the speaker and the earphone.


Ariff Abdullah wrote:

Yes, it is done purely in software i.e the driver.
Basically the hardware will notify the driver whether
it can sense anything that is plug in or out, and the driver
must be made ready to handle such situation: mute/unmute
specific pin that connect to headphone plug or speakers.


Ariff will commit the extra check into 7-CURRENT,
so other users with Acer Aspire 5050 (or laptops like it)
won't have to suffer the confusion I did.

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4.10-stable nameserver strange behavior

2007-01-11 Thread Ken Cochran
Hi:

How I refresh a system binary?

More specifically, I think I may have a compromised(?) named
in /usr/sbin but what I have in /usr/obj should be fine;
if not I still have it in /usr/src and can rebuild/reinstall it.

So how would I do the named only part of an installworld?

Or, to take it another step back, how to do the named only
part of a buildworld, followed by the named only part of an
installworld?

I have the dead-tree versions of both the Handbook  Lehey's
book.  Or, where might I find this/these procedures documented?

Actually, what has really happened is a wierdness I'm trying
to correct:  (Maybe my named has been compromised somehow but
there have been no messages in the nightly security runs.)

In the wee hours of the morning, my upstream cablemodem provider
dhcp'ed me a new ip-address.  Ok, fine...  (Dhclient seems
working fine from what the system log  tcpdump are showing.)

I can ping/traceroute (to) my system from outside (proper stuff
shows up in tcpdump too) but I can't ping/traceroute *from*
my system to anywhere (not even by ip-address).  I can ping
myself (the newly assigned ip-address just fine.

Hmm, name service isn't working correctly (I run a local
cache-only DNS, BIND 8.3.7, ya, old but someday...), so I kill 
restart named.  The appropriate named startup messages appear
in the messages-log, e.g. listening on [new ip-address].
Here's the wierd part: tcpdump shows DNS priming requests
(to the various *.root-servers.net addresses) with a *source* ip
of my *previous* ip-address, not the new one.  So far, *no* NS
requests show the proper source address; they all show the old
ip-address  not the new one.  Also, so far, behavior survives
reloading, restarting  completely killing  restarting named.

Umm... what else can I think of...  No external IPs are in the
named config and/or zone files, only local 192.168  127 things.
I can't find any zombie processes so far(?)

OS is:
 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #0: Sun Nov 28 03:17:35 CST 2004

Yes, I know, very old...  I do plan to upgrade...  This system
is very creaky nowadays  I'm very reluctant to reboot it;
might not come back up.  :(

Ideas?

Many thanks,

-kc
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Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?

2007-01-11 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin

yOn Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Erik Trulsson wrote:


On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 05:24:26AM -0500, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:

On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, John Nielsen wrote:

Apologies for top-posting.

I've made some progress with this, but as I suspected, I'm screwed on
namespace collision.  I.e. I am unable to load a version of twa.ko that
supports my 3ware card because a previous version of twa.ko that does not
support it is already in the generic kernel.  Changing the name of the
loadable doesn't help, either.

It looks like I might have to make my own release, and my own ISO, using
the driver source from the 3ware site.

Does anyone have an easier way of doing this?


Might some of the following information from 3ware be of help?

http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15003


This details exactly what I need to do.  However, the drivers that SHOULD 
be attached to the article are NOT.


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4.10-stable nameserver strange behavior

2007-01-11 Thread Robert Huff
Ken Cochran writes:

  How I refresh a system binary?
deletia

Assuming your source tree is the same version as installed
system ... I have been able to just go to the appropriate directory,
type make  make install.  This _not_ the canonical way, and I
wouldn't bet the rent money on it.


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How to clear strage route in routing table?

2007-01-11 Thread Patrick Dung
Hi

Suppose I have mistype a command:
# route add 192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.3.1

There is a strange routing table and I am unable to remove it unless
reboot:

192.168.00xc0a80301 255.255.255.0  UGS 0   86   fxp0

Any ideas?


 

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How to clear strage route in routing table?

2007-01-11 Thread Patrick Dung
Hi

Suppose I have mistype a command:
# route add 192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.3.1

There is a strange routing table and I am unable to remove it unless
reboot:

192.168.00xc0a80301 255.255.255.0  UGS 0   86   fxp0

Any ideas?


 

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Re: 4.10-stable nameserver strange behavior

2007-01-11 Thread Armin Arh
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:44:38 -0500 (EST)
Ken Cochran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi:
 
 How I refresh a system binary?
 
 More specifically, I think I may have a compromised(?) named
 in /usr/sbin but what I have in /usr/obj should be fine;
 if not I still have it in /usr/src and can rebuild/reinstall it.
 
 So how would I do the named only part of an installworld?

I would try something like:

cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/named
make install

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Re: How to clear strage route in routing table?

2007-01-11 Thread Armin Arh
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 09:01:14 -0800 (PST)
Patrick Dung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 
 Suppose I have mistype a command:
 # route add 192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.3.1


What is the output of netstat -nrf inet ?
Does route delete 192.168.3.0 help?

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Re: /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable/All

2007-01-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 02:00:08AM -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 05:57:56PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
  Hi Kris,
  
  I know things must be pretty busy with 6.2, but is there any chance that
  the 5.5-STABLE packages can be updated soon?  I just checked again, and
  at least apache and phpyadmin are still stale, going on two months now.
 
 Mark, what is the status of the upload of these packages?

OK, I've uploaded the packages now and they'll begin propagating out
to the mirrors.

Kris





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Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?

2007-01-11 Thread Jeff Mohler

Yes, they dont solve this whatsoever.  Its a severely broken code
issue in the attr caching mechanism.

Honest..give it a shot.  Even with very very slow ATA, local builds of
the kernel or world are faster than over 1G NFS to an F6000 series
filer, and the filer will still thrash on WAFL metadata requests for
the client, cuz everytime ../.. walks somewhere the client knows
nothing and it's all sent over the wire again.  Over and over and
over.

Thats as much as I understand about it, freebsd-fs has great detail on
this bug.

On 1/11/07, Freminlins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 11/01/07, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The basic reason is that a ../.. walk invalidates cached metadata, and
 you end up with a pipe full of getattr's all of the time.  Freebsd-fs
 has discussed this a bit, but no fixing is coming soon.  We use linux
 to compile builds, we'd like to use Freebsd, but linux on Filers via
 NFS is about 3x faster than the same builds on Fbsd to the same filer.
   ../.. baby.



Did you try different mount options on the FreeBSD clients. I have no idea,
but Linux may have different defaults.

Frem.


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Re: How to clear strage route in routing table?

2007-01-11 Thread Oliver Fromme
Patrick Dung wrote:
  Suppose I have mistype a command:
  # route add 192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.3.1

So you swapped gateway and netmask.  Nasty mistake.  :-)

It's usually better to use CIDR notation (with a slash
followed by the number of network bits), to avoid any
confusion.  It's also less typing.
# route add 192.168.3.0/24 192.168.3.1

  There is a strange routing table and I am unable to remove it unless
  reboot:
  
  192.168.00xc0a80301 255.255.255.0  UGS 0   86   fxp0

How did you try to remove it (exact comand line, please),
and what was the error message that you got?  You should
enter exactly the same line you used to add the route,
only replace add with delete.

It works fine for me, so I assume you did a syntax error
when trying to remove it.

Best regards
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Re: /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable/All

2007-01-11 Thread Ian Smith
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote:

  OK, I've uploaded the packages now and they'll begin propagating out
  to the mirrors.

Thanks again.  Now I'm right out of excuses, eh?

Cheers, Ian

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Re: general question about packages and ports working together [solved]

2007-01-11 Thread Stevan Tiefert
Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 04:13 schrieb Kris Kennaway:
 On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 04:10:59AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote:
  Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 04:05 schrieb Kris Kennaway:
   On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 03:47:34AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 03:38 schrieb Kris Kennaway:
 On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 03:30:18AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote:
  Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 02:47 schrieb Kris Kennaway:
   On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 11:49:04PM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote:
Hello list,
   
portaudit suggested me to update kdelibs. Ok I've done it via
ports. Two days later I wanted to add the package
de-koffice-i18n. The package de-koffice-i18n tried to install
also my unsecure kdelibs again, if I hadn't stopped it I
would now have two kdelibs on my harddrive...
   
May it be that the packages are not accepting the newer
versions from the ports?
  
   No, this should not be it.  Post the exact output of the
   commands you tried so we can try to help.
  
   Kris
 
  Excuse me! It seems that I need sleep :-( It is 3:30 am in my
  country...
 
  That is the right log:
 
  vagabund# pkg_add -r de-koffice-i18n
  Fetching
  ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release
 /Lat es t/de-koffice-i18n.tbz... Done.
  Fetching
  ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release
 /All /k delibs-3.5.1_1.tbz... Done.
  pkg_add: package 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' conflicts with
  kdelibs-nocups-3.5.5 pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to
  remove conflicting package(s) or -f to f
  orce installation
  pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' failed!
  vagabund#

 That's the problem, you have a conflicting package (kdelibs built
 with WITHOUT_CUPS set) installed.  If you really want to use
 packages you'll need to revert that to the standard setting of
 including cups support.

 Kris
   
Hello Kris,
   
that is the problem... The other mail I sent before handles abaout
the kdelibs-upgrade I did two days ago. And you will see, that the
building stopped where cups should be integrated. You see also, that
it failed and that was the reason I installed the kdelibs-nocups
port. The kdelibs don't want to be installed. I don't understand
why...
  
   OK, that's what you need to solve.  You can either post your errors
   here so we can try to solve them, or just delete the nocups port and
   go with the package.
  
   Kris
 
  Hello again,
 
  this is the log of kdelibs3:
 
  vagabund# cd /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3
  vagabund# make install  ~/kdelibs3-install.log
  vagabund#
 
  And here are the last few raws of kdelibs3-install.log:

 OK, make sure everything required by kdelibs is up-to-date (with
 portupgrade -R kdelibs or similar).  It is buildable on a clean 4.x
 system, although since 4.x is EOL in a couple of weeks you might
 prefer to spend your time on an upgrade to a supported version like
 6.2.

 Kris

... many hours and a portupgrade -R kdelibs later ...

It works now...

And the lessons learned today: I forgot one small argument on the command 
line... what a pity...

Thanks honestly for this help.

With regards
Stevan Tiefert
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Kernel Config Recommendations for AMD Chip

2007-01-11 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost
Hello All:

I've spent my entire FreeBSD life in /sys/i386 using Intel chips.  We
have a new server with the AMD processor listed below and I'm wondering
if:

1) I should stay in /sys/i386 with different configuration variables; or
2) Compile out of /sys/amd64

Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

CPU: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 240 EE (1396.03-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = AuthenticAMD  Id = 0xf5a  Stepping = 10
 
Features=0x78bfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,
MCA,CM
OV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2
  AMD Features=0xe0500800SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,LM,3DNow+,3DNow

Regards,

Mike

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Improvement to IPFilter / nfsd in FBSD (6.2+?)

2007-01-11 Thread Garrett Cooper
Just wondering if anyone has IPFilter / nfsd setup properly on their 
boxes with any beta versions of FBSD.


I am having loads of issues transferring large files (~300MB apiece) or 
issues transferring a large number of smaller files (3MB ~ 10MB apiece) 
from a FBSD 6.1 client to a FBSD 6.1 server, where it transfers part of 
the files, then cp / mv get stuck indefinitely on the client system. The 
stuck cp / mv processes cause the client to hang on reboot, and then 
terminate before all of the buffers are written to disk (which forces 
fsck on next boot).


Also if you suggest 7-CURRENT, what's the CVS tag for that version?

-Garrett
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Re: Fatal trap 30: reserved (unknown) fault while in kernel mode

2007-01-11 Thread John Baldwin
On Sunday 17 December 2006 23:17, Ma wrote:
 I'm using the newest FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE on our web server (compiled at
 last friday, 06-12-15). But it always crashes these days.
 The following information displayed on the screen with system crashed.
 
 Fatal trap 30: reserved (unknown) fault while in kernel mode
 cpuid = 1; apic id = 01
 instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc0b9bed1
 stack pointer   = 0x28:0xdc95fcd8
 frame pointer   = 0x28:0xdc95fcd8
 code segment= base 0x0, limit oxf, type 0x1b
 = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
 processor eflag = interrupt enabled, IOPL = 0
 current process = 10 (idle: cpu1)
 trap number = 30
 panic: reserved (unknown) fault
 cpuid = 1
 uptime: 3m52s
 ahc0: WARNING no command for scb 79 (cmdcmplt)
 QOUTPOS = 235

You need to put 'ddb' in your kernel and run 'show lapic' and 'show apic' and 
provide a verbose dmesg.

-- 
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Use of CVS

2007-01-11 Thread Doug Hardie
I have a medium sized application where the source is all in a CVS  
repository.  Basically it works great as I am able to retrieve any  
previous version of a module when needed.  Most of the changes to the  
application are quickly resolved, CVS committed and the production  
system updated in less than a day.  Recently, I made a fairly large  
update to the application that took about 4 weeks to complete.   
During that time I was not able to fix small problems as there was no  
way to update the production system without incorporating a large  
number of changes from the new update that were just not working  
yet.  Basically all small corrections were made to the new system but  
not incorporated into the production system until the new stuff was  
completed.  There were no real problems from this, but it was not  
really convenient.


Now I am going to be embarking on a revision that will take about 6  
months to complete.  Obviously I will not be able to wait till the  
completion to fix minor problems.  So I am going to need to do  
something with branches.  I have dug through the man pages and  
believe that is the best approach.  However, given that I need to  
maintain the current version with a probably small number of fixes  
during the development process what is the best approach?  Should I  
branch off the production version as a new branch and keep the main  
one for the new development or the other way around.  Will it be  
easier to merge the fixes to the production branch back in to the new  
system later or should those fixes be made to both branches at the  
same time?  Any suggestions on these approaches will be appreciated.   
Thanks,


-- Doug
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Which build to use for Intel Core 2 Duo 64-bit?

2007-01-11 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Which build should I use to build a native 64-bit installation on an 
Intel Core 2 Duo (E6600)?  Can I use the AMD64 build?  Is there anything 
I should be careful when rebuilding from source after a cvsup?  Can I 
just use the AMD64 build and CPUTYPE=nocona in /etc/make.conf ?


Thanks in advance,

Tom Veldhouse

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Re: Kernel Config Recommendations for AMD Chip

2007-01-11 Thread Peter Giessel
 
On Thursday, January 11, 2007, at 10:20AM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello All:

I've spent my entire FreeBSD life in /sys/i386 using Intel chips.  We
have a new server with the AMD processor listed below and I'm wondering
if:

1) I should stay in /sys/i386 with different configuration variables; or
2) Compile out of /sys/amd64

This question has been asked about a bazillion times on this mailing list.

Try starting here:
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EDT time zone change in 2007

2007-01-11 Thread Paul Khavkine

Hi.

There's has been changes to how Daylight Saving Time is observed in eastern
canada in 2007:

http://www.timetemperature.com/tzca/daylight_saving_time_canada.shtml


Is there anything that needs to be done to FreeBSD to reflect the changes ?


Thanx
Paul
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Re: Use of CVS

2007-01-11 Thread Michael P. Soulier

On 1/11/07, Doug Hardie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

one for the new development or the other way around.  Will it be
easier to merge the fixes to the production branch back in to the new
system later or should those fixes be made to both branches at the
same time?  Any suggestions on these approaches will be appreciated.
Thanks,


This is really a basic stream management question, not specific to
freebsd, or CVS for that matter. Perhaps you should reference one of
numerous texts on stream management, and find a development model that
is most comfortable for you.

Mike
--
Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
--Albert Einstein
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Re: Improvement to IPFilter / nfsd in FBSD (6.2+?)

2007-01-11 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Jan 11, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
Just wondering if anyone has IPFilter / nfsd setup properly on  
their boxes with any beta versions of FBSD.


It is typically not useful to implement firewall rules between NFS  
servers and legitimate NFS clients.


The large number of RPC services using randomly assigned ports needed  
by NFS and the fact that machines which trust each other enough to  
permit filesharing and generally utilize a common set of directory  
services to keep the user/group mappings synced mean that the NFS  
server  clients should be considered in the same trust domain in  
most cases.



Also if you suggest 7-CURRENT, what's the CVS tag for that version?


The HEAD of the CVS tree (aka .).  Updating the 7-CURRENT won't  
have any affect upon firewall configuration for NFS, however.


--
-Chuck

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Firewalls and RPC (was Re: Improvement to IPFilter / nfsd in FBSD (6.2+?))

2007-01-11 Thread Garrett Cooper

Chuck Swiger wrote:

On Jan 11, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
Just wondering if anyone has IPFilter / nfsd setup properly on their 
boxes with any beta versions of FBSD.


It is typically not useful to implement firewall rules between NFS 
servers and legitimate NFS clients.


The large number of RPC services using randomly assigned ports needed 
by NFS and the fact that machines which trust each other enough to 
permit filesharing and generally utilize a common set of directory 
services to keep the user/group mappings synced mean that the NFS 
server  clients should be considered in the same trust domain in 
most cases.
Right, ok. I suppose I was just being lazy/trying to blanket support all 
machines on my subnet without having to delve into individual hosts, but 
that makes perfect sense. rpcbind (and RPC in general) strictly uses 
ports under 1023--assuming that there are enough allocatable ports 
available for each RPC service in the port range 1-1023--if running as 
root, does it not?


Does the same rationale apply for Samba? That's part of the reason why 
I'm concerned with running a firewall.. I run smbd/nmbd on the server 
machine.


Either that, or I could switch to another firewall setup (albeit it'd be 
sort of a pain). Does ipfw / pf work better with RPC than IPFilter?



Also if you suggest 7-CURRENT, what's the CVS tag for that version?


The HEAD of the CVS tree (aka .).  Updating the 7-CURRENT won't have 
any affect upon firewall configuration for NFS, however.
Right. I was just going to see if there was any improvement in how 
things were implemented in 7-CURRENT, because maybe the issues that I'm 
encountering had been 'solved' in 7-CURRENT (although I would probably 
have more issues with core kernel items as they're under heavy 
development it appears given traffic on the current@ list).


Thanks Chuck!
-Garrett
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Re: Firewalls and RPC (was Re: Improvement to IPFilter / nfsd in FBSD (6.2+?))

2007-01-11 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:54 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
It is typically not useful to implement firewall rules between NFS  
servers and legitimate NFS clients.


The large number of RPC services using randomly assigned ports  
needed by NFS and the fact that machines which trust each other  
enough to permit filesharing and generally utilize a common set of  
directory services to keep the user/group mappings synced mean  
that the NFS server  clients should be considered in the same  
trust domain in most cases.


Right, ok. I suppose I was just being lazy/trying to blanket  
support all machines on my subnet without having to delve into  
individual hosts, but that makes perfect sense. rpcbind (and RPC in  
general) strictly uses ports under 1023--assuming that there are  
enough allocatable ports available for each RPC service in the port  
range 1-1023--if running as root, does it not?


Actually, no.  While rpcbind/portmap/portmapper is assigned to 111/ 
tcp  udp, most other RPC services get assigned high port numbers in  
the 327xx range, but that varies considerably from platform to platform.


Does the same rationale apply for Samba? That's part of the reason  
why I'm concerned with running a firewall.. I run smbd/nmbd on the  
server machine.


Somewhat, yes.  Samba/CIFS filesharing can require less trust between  
server and client as accessing a Samba share does not require  
superuser permissions, just limited user access, but Samba does  
require root access to start up and bind to the low ports it uses,  
and it also involves the network browse master (which nmbd can do)  
and so forth which involve subnet-oriented broadcast traffic.


Samba/CIFS is a chatty protocol.

Either that, or I could switch to another firewall setup (albeit  
it'd be sort of a pain). Does ipfw / pf work better with RPC than  
IPFilter?


No, not really.  What you probably want to focus on is protecting  
your entire subnet, including the fileserver and clients, from  
malicious traffic via your Internet link(s), and then worry about  
egress filtering, dividing your machines into a trusted internal LAN  
and a semi-trusted DMZ, and so forth.


A firewall system should not be running any kind of filesharing;  
while you can run PF, IPFW, etc on your fileserver, that ought to be  
a secondary line of protection for defense in depth, and your  
Internet connection ought to have a dual-homed or multihomed firewall  
machine which is dedicated to that role and which runs zero services.


--
-Chuck

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Re: Firewalls and RPC (was Re: Improvement to IPFilter / nfsd in FBSD (6.2+?))

2007-01-11 Thread Garrett Cooper
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Chuck Swiger wrote:

 Actually, no.  While rpcbind/portmap/portmapper is assigned to 111/tcp 
 udp, most other RPC services get assigned high port numbers in the 327xx
 range, but that varies considerably from platform to platform.

True. NFS is port 2049 by default, anyhow..

 Somewhat, yes.  Samba/CIFS filesharing can require less trust between
 server and client as accessing a Samba share does not require superuser
 permissions, just limited user access, but Samba does require root
 access to start up and bind to the low ports it uses, and it also
 involves the network browse master (which nmbd can do) and so forth
 which involve subnet-oriented broadcast traffic.
 
 Samba/CIFS is a chatty protocol.

No kidding. The funny thing is that smbclient (Xbox Media Center runs
smbclient) I've learned requires more open ports than regular CIFS
enabled Windows XP hosts to RPC services, which has caused more issues
than it's worth in the past.

 No, not really.  What you probably want to focus on is protecting your
 entire subnet, including the fileserver and clients, from malicious
 traffic via your Internet link(s), and then worry about egress
 filtering, dividing your machines into a trusted internal LAN and a
 semi-trusted DMZ, and so forth.

 A firewall system should not be running any kind of filesharing; while
 you can run PF, IPFW, etc on your fileserver, that ought to be a
 secondary line of protection for defense in depth, and your Internet
 connection ought to have a dual-homed or multihomed firewall machine
 which is dedicated to that role and which runs zero services.

Right. However, I don't trust the rest of the clients on my subnet other
than the ones I maintain, so that's why I have setup the firewall rules
I have.

Sorry for not more clearly defining the situation earlier, but here's
the reasoning / rationale for what I'm doing..


IT nightmare

- -I live in a house with a shared LAN with a total of around 50 hosts
connected / disconnected at various times of the day.

- -I don't trust any of the Windows clients devoid a small handful because
I have had a variety of connectivity problems caused by improperly
managed personal machines, virii, and spyware on machines here.

- -There isn't a real means of properly controlling IP distribution and
people are free to change their IP addresses to whatever they choose
(host information is set statically, not dynamically).

- -I have 5 machines which have access to the network--2 serving machines
and 3 clients which aren't always attached to the network. I have set
the IP addresses up so they all lie in a range, but I don't trust
whether someone will IP squat my address and do whatever they want to my
serving machines (whether they mean to or it happens by accident).

- -Some of the machines on the network have access to the machine serving
via Samba, but that's a limited number.

/IT nightmare

- -Garrett
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Re: Firewalls and RPC (was Re: Improvement to IPFilter / nfsd in FBSD (6.2+?))

2007-01-11 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Jan 11, 2007, at 1:50 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
Actually, no.  While rpcbind/portmap/portmapper is assigned to 111/ 
tcp 
udp, most other RPC services get assigned high port numbers in the  
327xx

range, but that varies considerably from platform to platform.


True. NFS is port 2049 by default, anyhow..


Good example, yet this is true on some platforms but not on others.

A firewall system should not be running any kind of filesharing;  
while

you can run PF, IPFW, etc on your fileserver, that ought to be a
secondary line of protection for defense in depth, and your  
Internet

connection ought to have a dual-homed or multihomed firewall machine
which is dedicated to that role and which runs zero services.


Right. However, I don't trust the rest of the clients on my subnet  
other
than the ones I maintain, so that's why I have setup the firewall  
rules

I have.


You really don't want to mix machines which are trusted with machines  
which are not trusted on the same subnet.  If you can't control which  
client machines get which IPs, you pretty much cannot use firewall  
rules to restrict filesharing only to the legit clients.



Sorry for not more clearly defining the situation earlier, but here's
the reasoning / rationale for what I'm doing..

IT nightmare

- -I live in a house with a shared LAN with a total of around 50 hosts
connected / disconnected at various times of the day.

- -I don't trust any of the Windows clients devoid a small handful  
because

I have had a variety of connectivity problems caused by improperly
managed personal machines, virii, and spyware on machines here.

- -There isn't a real means of properly controlling IP distribution  
and

people are free to change their IP addresses to whatever they choose
(host information is set statically, not dynamically).

- -I have 5 machines which have access to the network--2 serving  
machines

and 3 clients which aren't always attached to the network. I have set
the IP addresses up so they all lie in a range, but I don't trust
whether someone will IP squat my address and do whatever they want  
to my

serving machines (whether they mean to or it happens by accident).

- -Some of the machines on the network have access to the machine  
serving

via Samba, but that's a limited number.


Perhaps you should consider setting up your own private subnet for  
your machines, and having a firewall guarding access to your machines  
which performs static NAT for the set of five IP addresses you've  
made claim to.


--
-Chuck

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Re: Firewalls and RPC (was Re: Improvement to IPFilter / nfsd in FBSD (6.2+?))

2007-01-11 Thread Garrett Cooper
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Chuck Swiger wrote:

snip

 You really don't want to mix machines which are trusted with machines
 which are not trusted on the same subnet.  If you can't control which
 client machines get which IPs, you pretty much cannot use firewall rules
 to restrict filesharing only to the legit clients.

Excellent point.

snip

 Perhaps you should consider setting up your own private subnet for your
 machines, and having a firewall guarding access to your machines which
 performs static NAT for the set of five IP addresses you've made claim to.

I'm really starting to think that'd be a good idea. Thanks again for the
comments--it really helps.
- -Garrett
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Re: Which build to use for Intel Core 2 Duo 64-bit?

2007-01-11 Thread Ivan Voras
Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
 Which build should I use to build a native 64-bit installation on an
 Intel Core 2 Duo (E6600)?  

AMD64 kernel, SMP variant. Specific compiler optimizations will not
yield high enough benefits to be generally useful but it probably[*]
won't hurt you.


[*] There was a period when there was a bug in gcc which caused it to
generate bad code for certain processor optimizations such as CPUTYPE=P4.



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Re: vpnc problem

2007-01-11 Thread Jeremie Le Hen
Hi Vishal,

First of all you should avoid cross-posting.  Additionaly, I don't
think this is a question for [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 08:50:26PM -0500, Vishal Patil wrote:
 I have found the answer to this question. I basically had to edit the
 vpnc-script and replace the body of the function get_default_gw with
 
 netstat -r -n | sed 's/default/0.0.0.0/' | grep '^0.0.0.0' | awk '{print
 $2}'
 
 So now I have vpnc-0.3.3 working on FreeBSD.

The port stands in security/vpnc, you should use it.  It guess the
maintainer has tried it before updating the port and pushed the
appropriate patch into the ports tree.

Regards
-- 
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 jeremie at le-hen dot org  ttz at chchile dot org 
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Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?

2007-01-11 Thread Nuno Henriques

Oliver Iberien wrote:
At least this thread got me (desktop user, not especially technically 
sophisticated) to go make a little donation to the FreeBSD Foundation, as it 
is the one way I can help out, and show that I'm grateful for FreeBSD. 

On Wednesday 10 January 2007 08:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



So, if you cannot contribute time and effort and your business is
so valuable, then consider contributing money - to support someone
to work in the project, at least part time.


If you only want to get something for nothing, then you live
in the wrong world.

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I bought a FreeBSD Subscription 
(http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsdsub6.2?id=Ja6Hth8umv_pc=70) 
and the FreeBSD Handbook Set 
(http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsdhandbk3.set?id=Ja6Hth8umv_pc=187), 
and to this day, I'm still patiently awaiting for FreeBSD to support the 
590SLI Nforce chipset. Both OpenBSD and NetBSD support this chipset FYI. :)
BTW, there are no replies to my emails from freebsdmall.com. What's 
going on here? :(


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Re: Use of CVS

2007-01-11 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-01-11 11:35, Doug Hardie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a medium sized application where the source is all in a CVS
 repository.  Basically it works great as I am able to retrieve any
 previous version of a module when needed.  Most of the changes to the
 application are quickly resolved, CVS committed and the production
 system updated in less than a day.  Recently, I made a fairly large
 update to the application that took about 4 weeks to complete.  During
 that time I was not able to fix small problems as there was no way to
 update the production system without incorporating a large number of
 changes from the new update that were just not working yet.  Basically
 all small corrections were made to the new system but not incorporated
 into the production system until the new stuff was completed.  There
 were no real problems from this, but it was not really convenient.

 Now I am going to be embarking on a revision that will take about 6
 months to complete.  Obviously I will not be able to wait till the
 completion to fix minor problems.  So I am going to need to do
 something with branches.  I have dug through the man pages and believe
 that is the best approach.

Indeed.  Branching and inter-branch merges can be a huge pain in the
ass with CVS though.  It may be worth investigating if one of the more
modern SCM systems -- with better support for merges and merge
tracking -- can help you keep the two 'branches' in sync.

If you plan to heavily use branches, my personal preference would be
Mercurial[1].  It takes a short while to get acquainted with a
_distributed_ SCM, if you have been using CVS for a long time, but IMHO
the benefits of offline development and excellent merging support
(including merge-history tracking, rename tracking, and a few other
goodies), far outweighs the cost of migration.

[1] http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/

 However, given that I need to maintain the current version with a
 probably small number of fixes during the development process what
 is the best approach?  Should I branch off the production version as
 a new branch and keep the main one for the new development or the
 other way around.

There are two 'models' of work you can use with CVS:

* The mainline model.

* The promotion model.

In the mainline model, all development happens in the HEAD branch
of CVS, and when you are about to release a production version you
spin off a 'release branch' off the main trunk of development.

In the feature branch model, you branch early, and develop features
*within* a feature branch.  Some time later, these features branches get
'promoted' from feature branch, to testing branch, and eventually to
release branch.

Which model you will use depends on a lot of factors, not the least of
which is how often you will be developing many features in parallel, how
long you will have to maintain 'release branches' after you have shipped
from them, etc.

 Will it be easier to merge the fixes to the production branch back in
 to the new system later or should those fixes be made to both branches
 at the same time?  Any suggestions on these approaches will be
 appreciated.

In general, with CVS it's a lot easier to use the mainline model,
where all development happens in HEAD.

This doesn't mean that you cannot or that you should not evne consider
the promotion model of feature branches though.

- Giorgos

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Re: vpnc problem

2007-01-11 Thread Dak Ghatikachalam

I am successfully using vpnc that came with freebsd 6.1able to connect
into cisco 3000 concentrator

all i had was vpnc.conf file

On 1/11/07, Jeremie Le Hen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Vishal,

First of all you should avoid cross-posting.  Additionaly, I don't
think this is a question for [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 08:50:26PM -0500, Vishal Patil wrote:
 I have found the answer to this question. I basically had to edit the
 vpnc-script and replace the body of the function get_default_gw with

 netstat -r -n | sed 's/default/0.0.0.0/' | grep '^0.0.0.0' | awk '{print
 $2}'

 So now I have vpnc-0.3.3 working on FreeBSD.

The port stands in security/vpnc, you should use it.  It guess the
maintainer has tried it before updating the port and pushed the
appropriate patch into the ports tree.

Regards
--
Jeremie Le Hen
 jeremie at le-hen dot org  ttz at chchile dot org 
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Re: How dangerous a Standard User could be to a FreeBSD box?

2007-01-11 Thread Dak Ghatikachalam

this is a funny thread.

On 1/10/07, VeeJay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi

How dangerous a Standard User could be to a FreeBSD box?

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Thanks!

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Re: How dangerous a Standard User could be to a FreeBSD box?

2007-01-11 Thread James Long
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 08:52:44AM -0500, Nathan Vidican wrote:

 How dangerous a Standard User could be to a FreeBSD box?

Depending on local setup, this could range from 'not at all' to
'extremely'.  Do you have a *specific* setup in mind?

   Standard user with the root password, a bag of explosives, a .45 magnum, 
   and a chip on his shoulder, say?
  Yeah, and even a user with no account or password, a screwdriver, and
  a Mountain Dew.

 Gotcha all beat, screw the 'standard user' issue... I had a client call 
 me once cause the office cat peed onto/into the server; no technical 
 expertise required whatsoever, no password, no re-wiring of network, 
 heck no opposable digits even or anything else for that matter, yet it 
 still managed to kill the server ;)

Ah yes, the infamous cat(1) ppp(8) exploit.  Much harder to clean up
than cat(1) dump(8), too.

Fortunately, the worst problem I've had with mine is occassional 
race conditions with mouse(4).


Jim
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ezjail and ports

2007-01-11 Thread Dave

Hello,
   I've created three jails with ezjail on a 6.1 machine. When i did so i 
did not need ports, now i do in one of the jails. I've tried nullfs mounting 
the host system's /usr/ports tree, but it didn't automount on jail startup. 
So, i fetched a new copy of the ports tree in to /var/ports, but when i 
tried to install a port, bash3 in this case, the ports are referencing 
/usr/ports/share/MK which it can not find, that's a read-only symlink to 
the basejail filesystem.
   A side question, pinging the jail works fine from the host system, but 
nmapping it does not show anything even though i have running services. I've 
tried with and without the -P0 option.

Does anyone have this working?
Thanks.
Dave.

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Re: help

2007-01-11 Thread Dak Ghatikachalam

just your devices attached for power management module is not responding,

this may not bring down anything.

On 1/11/07, lekshmanan prabhakaran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


hi
my name is lekshman i did a fresh installation of FreeBSD 6.1 on my
Travelmate laptop 2420, the installation was fine but i am getting these
errors on TTY0 console .

---
kernel: ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_TZ_.TZSV._TMP]
(Node 0xc214b020), AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE
ACPI-0501: *** Error: Handler for [EmbeddedControl] returned
AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE

These two errors happens in the same minute and every few minutes:
May 31 00:07:52 Scarface kernel: ACPI-0501: *** Error: Handler for
[EmbeddedControl] returned AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE
May 31 00:07:52 Scarface kernel: ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution
failed [\_TZ_.TZSV._TMP] (Node 0xc214b020), AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE
May 31 00:08:12 Scarface kernel: ACPI-0501: *** Error: Handler for
[EmbeddedControl] returned AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE
May 31 00:08:12 Scarface kernel: ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution
failed [\_TZ_.TZS0._TMP] (Node 0xc214b020)AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE
May 31 00:08:22 Scarface kernel: ACPI-0501: *** Error: Handler for
[EmbeddedControl] returned AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE
May 31 00:08:22 Scarface kernel: ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution
failed [\_TZ_.TZS1._TMP] (Node 0xc214b020), AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE

---
This is keep on repeating but there is no problem with other consoles from
tty1 to tty8 and KDE GUI is working fine.Please help me with this ,is it
going to bring my computer down.

Thanking you

Lekshman
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Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?

2007-01-11 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin

On 1/12/07, Nuno Henriques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I bought a FreeBSD Subscription
(http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsdsub6.2?id=Ja6Hth8umv_pc=70)
and the FreeBSD Handbook Set
(http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsdhandbk3.set?id=Ja6Hth8umv_pc=187),
and to this day, I'm still patiently awaiting for FreeBSD to support the
590SLI Nforce chipset. Both OpenBSD and NetBSD support this chipset FYI. :)
BTW, there are no replies to my emails from freebsdmall.com. What's
going on here? :(


It's a scam! You pay for a subscription and a
handbook and all you get is (surprise!)
a subscription and a handbook.

;)
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Re: Dell PE 1950 - Only seeing 3.2 gigs of ram

2007-01-11 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Thursday 11 January 2007 07:55, Jeff MacDonald wrote:
   Well I hate when people say this, but I'm going to say it.. :)
  
   When I did a default install of ubuntu, it saw all 4 gigs
   without a hitch. So does that mean it already includes PAE, or
   something else ?
 
  One of those two.  You sure you didn't install a 64-bit version
  of Ubuntu?

 Fairly sure :)

   Aside, I will read up on PAE.  I'll read up about 64 bit as
   well, I've been hesitant to make the jump only cause any word
   of mouth i've heard said  that it's not ready for production.
   Maybe that's off base, it's only what i've heard
 
  We're deploying a lot of 64 bit stuff around here.  Our
  experience has been that the OS is as solid on amd64 as it is on
  i386.  Server applications are the same.  There are, however, a
  lot of desktop applications that are still flaky on 64-bit --
  mostly non-mainstream ones.  We got in a crunch and had to
  reinstall a workstation back to i386 because of it, or I would
  have filed some bug reports.

 Yeah, that's likly true what you say about server vs desktop. I'm
 going to slap a 64 bit copy on now and see how it does.

 Jeff.

For what it's worth I've been running 6.1-R AMD64 on a PE 1950 very 
successfully as a web/mysql/mail/dns server.  If you have the 
broadcom or intel NICs you're going to want to use the drivers from 
6-STABLE or 6.2-RC2.  Other than that it's been relatively painless.

-- 
Thanks,

Josh Paetzel
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Re: Use of CVS

2007-01-11 Thread Dak Ghatikachalam

afaik, branching off for the minor changes would be thest way to go. so you
could merge back these changes into main line easily. that is the way normal
devel cycle

or you could establish minor and major and merge them upon completion.

On 1/11/07, Doug Hardie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have a medium sized application where the source is all in a CVS
repository.  Basically it works great as I am able to retrieve any
previous version of a module when needed.  Most of the changes to the
application are quickly resolved, CVS committed and the production
system updated in less than a day.  Recently, I made a fairly large
update to the application that took about 4 weeks to complete.
During that time I was not able to fix small problems as there was no
way to update the production system without incorporating a large
number of changes from the new update that were just not working
yet.  Basically all small corrections were made to the new system but
not incorporated into the production system until the new stuff was
completed.  There were no real problems from this, but it was not
really convenient.

Now I am going to be embarking on a revision that will take about 6
months to complete.  Obviously I will not be able to wait till the
completion to fix minor problems.  So I am going to need to do
something with branches.  I have dug through the man pages and
believe that is the best approach.  However, given that I need to
maintain the current version with a probably small number of fixes
during the development process what is the best approach?  Should I
branch off the production version as a new branch and keep the main
one for the new development or the other way around.  Will it be
easier to merge the fixes to the production branch back in to the new
system later or should those fixes be made to both branches at the
same time?  Any suggestions on these approaches will be appreciated.
Thanks,

-- Doug
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Re: Dell PE 1950 - Only seeing 3.2 gigs of ram

2007-01-11 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 19:46, Jay Chandler wrote:



 On a related note for this hardware platform, has anyone gotten
 past the randomly decides not to reboot when told to issue? 
 Requires a hard shutdown by hand, as the console becomes completely
 non-responsive.

I've heard of this problem, some people have it all the time and 
others don't have it at all on the PE 1950.  I suspect it has 
something to do with the way Dell will occassionally change hardware 
mid-run and not tell anyone. :)

The solution is to enable the IPMI board and use that to reboot it.  
(Dell calls it a BMC but you can access it with standard IPMI 
utilities)

-- 
Thanks,

Josh Paetzel
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Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?

2007-01-11 Thread Nuno Henriques

Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:

On 1/12/07, Nuno Henriques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I bought a FreeBSD Subscription
(http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsdsub6.2?id=Ja6Hth8umv_pc=70)
and the FreeBSD Handbook Set
(http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsdhandbk3.set?id=Ja6Hth8umv_pc=187), 


and to this day, I'm still patiently awaiting for FreeBSD to support the
590SLI Nforce chipset. Both OpenBSD and NetBSD support this chipset 
FYI. :)

BTW, there are no replies to my emails from freebsdmall.com. What's
going on here? :(


It's a scam! You pay for a subscription and a
handbook and all you get is (surprise!)
a subscription and a handbook.

;)
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LOL :D

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Re: Laptop speaker vs earphone

2007-01-11 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-01-11 00:29, Lion G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all, I have a weird question.
 
 In my previous many laptops, whenever I plug in the earphone, the
 laptop speaker would stop (and I would only hear music through the
 earphone)

Which is what *should* happen.  After all, when you plug headphones into
the proper jack, it's a sort of 'signal' that you want to hear something
without disturbing all the people around with it too :)

When I asked:

Is automute of headphone/speakers always handled by the snd_hda
driver?

Ariff explained why this happens to me by writing:

It all depends on the internal wiring, codecs, vendor preferences,
etc, but mostly yes, it is handled by the driver itself: cheaper,
flexible.

 With my newest laptop (Acer Aspire 5050), the laptop speaker stays on
 no-matter-what.  I would hear the same music in both the speaker and
 the earphone.
 
 I'm using Ariff Abdullah's snd_hda driver on 6.2-RC2.
 The driver reports:
 pcm0: ATI SB450 High Definition Audio Controller mem 
 0xc000-0xc0003fff irq 16 at device 20.2 on pci0
 pcm0: HDA Codec: Realtek ALC883
 pcm0: HDA Driver Revision: 20061210_0037

Try contacting Ariff.  He is pretty responsive and he will most probably
reply with a patch that fixes the problem for you.  This is *exactly*
what happened when I asked him about my own laptop, a Toshiba Satellite
U200, which had the same 'bug'.

The fix for my laptop is now part of FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/sound/pci/hda/hdac.c?rev=1.21content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup

Before contacting Ariff, it will be helpful (and will save you at least
one round-trip of email exchanges), if you boot in ``verbose mode'', and
save a copy of ``/var/run/dmesg.boot''.

Then, make sure you include this file and the output of ``pciconf -lv''
in your report.

Good luck,
Giorgos



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Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?

2007-01-11 Thread Dak Ghatikachalam

Hi FreeBSD

I am looking to know how to use perform the dialup using the chatscript for
the wireless card  Ac850.

Is t this right place to ask this question.


Wow this is longest thread I have seen in my entire life about 73 people
replying about same topic and nearly he the same email. over and over.

Thanks
Dak


On 1/8/07, Jim Pazarena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/01/08/a-shadow-lies-upon-all-bsd-distributions
-
Gentoo/FreeBSD: license problems require a development pause


http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/01/07/gentoo-freebsd-license-problems-requires-a-development-pause

The big license mess, part 2


http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/01/07/the-big-license-mess-part-2
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Re: How dangerous a Standard User could be to a FreeBSD box?

2007-01-11 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 08:52:44AM -0500, Nathan Vidican wrote:
Gotcha all beat, screw the 'standard user' issue... I had a client  
call

me once cause the office cat peed onto/into the server; no technical
expertise required whatsoever, no password, no re-wiring of network,
heck no opposable digits even or anything else for that matter, yet it
still managed to kill the server ;)


That cat is rather fortunate the server didn't kill the cat at the  
same time.


[ Standard computer PSUs use a high-voltage switching power supply  
design that really should not be peed upon, although I suppose the  
flyback transformer inside a CRT would be considerably more dangerous. ]


--
-Chuck

PS: I betcha the client thought the whole matter was a  
catastrophe...  :-)


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cvsup'dating several machines

2007-01-11 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi,

I will soon update FreeBSD on several machines from 4.11 to 5.5, they
are all at the same level of 4.11.

I would like to save network bandwidth, would it be OK/enough if I
cvsup one machine and then copy /usr/src from that opne to the others?

Best regards,

Olivier
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startup script for poppassd

2007-01-11 Thread Joe Auty

Hello,

Does anybody have a startup script or experience with how to get the  
poppassd port to listen on port 106?







---
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Re: Use of CVS

2007-01-11 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:35:38 -0800
Doug Hardie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Any suggestions on these approaches will be appreciated.   
 Thanks,

I suggest you read the CVS Red book, in particular the section on branch
management and merging.
http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.html

I agree with other posters, you may want to move to newer SCM systems... I've
been using SVN for a while now, and couldn't be happier. There's also a SVN red
book , with sections for current CVS users to understand the differences.

good luck :)
_
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Re: startup script for poppassd

2007-01-11 Thread John Nielsen
On Thursday 11 January 2007 21:26, Joe Auty wrote:
 Does anybody have a startup script or experience with how to get the
 poppassd port to listen on port 106?

You run it from inetd, so all you have to do is add a line 
to /etc/inetd.conf (and enable inetd if it isn't already). There are 
examples in the poppassd manpage.

JN
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Re: Dell PE 1950 - Only seeing 3.2 gigs of ram

2007-01-11 Thread Bill Moran
Josh Paetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 10 January 2007 19:46, Jay Chandler wrote:
 
  On a related note for this hardware platform, has anyone gotten
  past the randomly decides not to reboot when told to issue? 
  Requires a hard shutdown by hand, as the console becomes completely
  non-responsive.
 
 I've heard of this problem, some people have it all the time and 
 others don't have it at all on the PE 1950.  I suspect it has 
 something to do with the way Dell will occassionally change hardware 
 mid-run and not tell anyone. :)

It's a bizarre timing problem involving the shutdown of drivers.  We
were trying to track it down, but any time we changed anything in the
code, the problem disappeared (i.e. just adding a printf()).  Our
conclusion was that it was an extremely sensitive timing issue.

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Re: startup script for poppassd

2007-01-11 Thread Joe Auty

Thank you! Works great


On Jan 11, 2007, at 9:29 PM, John Nielsen wrote:


On Thursday 11 January 2007 21:26, Joe Auty wrote:

Does anybody have a startup script or experience with how to get the
poppassd port to listen on port 106?


You run it from inetd, so all you have to do is add a line
to /etc/inetd.conf (and enable inetd if it isn't already). There are
examples in the poppassd manpage.

JN


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Re: cvsup'dating several machines

2007-01-11 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jan 12), Olivier Nicole said:
 I will soon update FreeBSD on several machines from 4.11 to 5.5, they
 are all at the same level of 4.11.
 
 I would like to save network bandwidth, would it be OK/enough if I
 cvsup one machine and then copy /usr/src from that opne to the
 others?

You don't need to copy.  Just NFS-mount /usr/src from your master onto
all the others.  In fact, if you also share /usr/obj (or set
MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX appropriately so they all point to the same place),
you can even buildworld on one, and just run installworld on all the
others and skip the extra compiles.

-- 
Dan Nelson
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Re: Use of CVS

2007-01-11 Thread Doug Hardie


On Jan 11, 2007, at 18:28, Norberto Meijome wrote:


On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:35:38 -0800
Doug Hardie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Any suggestions on these approaches will be appreciated.
Thanks,


I suggest you read the CVS Red book, in particular the section on  
branch

management and merging.
http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.html

I agree with other posters, you may want to move to newer SCM  
systems... I've
been using SVN for a while now, and couldn't be happier. There's  
also a SVN red
book , with sections for current CVS users to understand the  
differences.


Thanks.  I have started reading them.
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Re: UDP ok but TCP delayed

2007-01-11 Thread bobmc
Hi Ian:

(I post to the list because your's bounced? The Postfix program
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: host gaia.nimnet.asn.au[203.41.52.131] said: 
550 Access denied (in reply to MAIL FROM command)


Thanks for your reply. Compared to Linux tcpdump, FreeBSD is issuing 
extra packets, those  you mentioned.  I have a Netopia modem 
with RJ45 to a router or optical modem in the condo basement. From 
there is an optical link to my ISP about 10km away who provides nothing 
but email forwarding, a DHCP lease, and an internet connect.

I have included dumps from Linux and FreeBSD but I have not yet 
finished all the tests you suggested.  IPv6 is not enabled according to 
the /etc/defaults. I tinkered with various options without making a 
difference.

Thank you,
-Bob-

whois fcibroadband.com
   Domain Name: FCIBROADBAND.COM
   Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
   Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
   Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
   Name Server: DNS-01.FUTUREWAY.COM
   Name Server: DNS-03.FUTUREWAY.COM
   Status: clientTransferProhibited

 Domain servers in listed order:

   DNS-01.FUTUREWAY.COM 64.119.104.2
   DNS-03.FUTUREWAY.COM 64.119.104.130

+++ Linux tcpdump 
uname -a
Linux buffy 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jul 19 12:14:26 EDT 2006 i686
GNU/Linux

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tcpdump: listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96
bytes

21:44:49.547037 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 13665, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto: UDP (17), length: 61)
192.168.1.100.1032  192.168.1.254.domain:  44611+ A? www.freebsd.org. (33)

21:44:49.567857 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 13670, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto: UDP (17), length: 72)
192.168.1.100.1033  192.168.1.254.domain:  16632+ PTR?
254.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa. (44)

21:44:49.633987 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 255, id 240, offset 0, flags [none],
proto: UDP (17), length: 173)
192.168.1.254.domain  192.168.1.100.1032:  44611 1/4/0 www.freebsd.org.
A www.freebsd.org (145)

21:44:49.644775 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 31888, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto: TCP (6), length: 52)
192.168.1.100.3587  www.freebsd.org.www:
S, cksum 0xc114 (correct), 3828632041:3828632041(0)
win 5840 mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK,nop,wscale 2

21:44:49.726336 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  56, id 27781, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto:
TCP (6), length: 48)
www.freebsd.org.www  192.168.1.100.3587:
S, cksum 0x7cc5 (correct), 3180712628:3180712628(0) ack 3828632042
win 57344 mss 1408,nop,wscale 0

21:44:49.726416 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 31889, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto: TCP (6), length: 40)
192.168.1.100.3587  www.freebsd.org.www: .,
cksum 0x82a2 (correct), ack 1 win 1460

21:44:49.726516 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 31890, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto: TCP (6), length: 578)
192.168.1.100.3587  www.freebsd.org.www: P 1:539(538) ack 1 win 1460

...etc

--- FreeBSD version 
$ uname -a
FreeBSD buffy.feline.cat 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0:
Sun May  7 04:32:43 UTC 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

$ ifconfig -a
vr0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
   inet6 fe80::240:63ff:fee6:41ba%vr0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
   inet 192.168.1.102 netmask 0xff00
   broadcast 255.255.255.255
   ether 00:40:63:e6:41:ba
   media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
   status: active
plip0: flags=108810POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,NEEDSGIANT mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384
   inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
   inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
   inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00

lease {
 interface vr0;
 fixed-address 192.168.1.102;
 option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
 option routers 192.168.1.254;
 option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.254;
 option broadcast-address 255.255.255.255;
 option dhcp-lease-time 3600;
 option dhcp-message-type 5;
 option dhcp-server-identifier 192.168.1.254;
 option dhcp-renewal-time 1800;
 option dhcp-rebinding-time 3150;
 renew 4 2007/1/11 04:57:09;
 rebind 4 2007/1/11 05:19:39;
 expire 4 2007/1/11 05:27:09;
}

buffy# tcpdump -vv
tcpdump: listening on vr0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96
bytes
22:29:06.250801 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 81, offset 0, flags [none],
proto: UDP (17), length: 61)
192.168.1.102.50460  192.168.1.254.domain:
[udp sum ok]  53280+ A? www.freebsd.org. (33)

22:29:06.257223 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 255, id 761, offset 0,
flags [none], proto: UDP (17), length: 205)
192.168.1.254.domain  192.168.1.102.50460:  53280
q: A? www.freebsd.org. 1/4/2 www.freebsd.org.
A www.freebsd.org ns: freebsd.org.[|domain]

22:29:06.260101 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 82, offset 0,
flags [none], proto: UDP (17), length: 61)
192.168.1.102.55466  192.168.1.254.domain:
[udp sum ok]  53281+ ? www.freebsd.org. (33)

22:29:07.086122 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 83, offset 0,
flags [none], proto: UDP (17), length: 72)
192.168.1.102.62917  

Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?

2007-01-11 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Peter Giessel wrote:



On Wednesday, January 10, 2007, at 01:22AM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:

I am unable to load a version of twa.ko that
supports my 3ware card because a previous version of twa.ko that does not
support it is already in the generic kernel.  Changing the name of the
loadable doesn't help, either.


P.S. 6.1 on AMD64 and i386 supports the 9550:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/relnotes-amd64.html
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/relnotes-i386.html
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=twasektion=4manpath=FreeBSD+6.1-RELEASE


Yeah, this is the 9650SE.  I've emailed Scott Long to ask about its 
inclustion.  No reply thusfar.


-Dan

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Dan Mahoney
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