Re: contributing to the ports collection

2012-09-27 Thread Fernando Apesteguía
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Stuart Matthews  wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> After several years of using FreeBSD, I have decided it is time to start
> contributing my time to the project. I have read through the relevant page
> on freebsd.org and intend to look into contributing in a couple of the ways
> listed there. However, my main interest is contributing a port to the ports
> collection.
>
> Specifically, I want to add WordShell (http://wordshell.net/) to the FreeBSD
> ports collection. I want to install it for myself, and I generally don't
> like using software outside of some sort of software manager wherein I can
> keep everything neatly up-to-date.
>
> How would I get started in adding something to the ports collection?

The porter's manual[1] is the place to start learning ;)

[1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/book.html

Cheers.

>
> Thanks,
> Stu
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contributing to the ports collection

2012-09-27 Thread Stuart Matthews

Hi everyone,

After several years of using FreeBSD, I have decided it is time to start 
contributing my time to the project. I have read through the relevant 
page on freebsd.org and intend to look into contributing in a couple of 
the ways listed there. However, my main interest is contributing a port 
to the ports collection.


Specifically, I want to add WordShell (http://wordshell.net/) to the 
FreeBSD ports collection. I want to install it for myself, and I 
generally don't like using software outside of some sort of software 
manager wherein I can keep everything neatly up-to-date.


How would I get started in adding something to the ports collection?

Thanks,
Stu
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Re: Can I compile sendmail simply through the ports collection?

2010-09-17 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 17/09/2010 22:36:07, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote:
> Hi,
> I was wondering if I can simply recompile sendmail from the ports collection 
> for 
> FreeBSD 7.1 server.
> I need to recompile the sendmail on the server to add Cyrus SASL2 support. 
> The 
> instructions on FreeBSD point to src /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail which doesn't 
> exist and I was wondering if I could simply recompile using the ports 
> collection.

Yes.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Can I compile sendmail simply through the ports collection?

2010-09-17 Thread Aflatoon Aflatooni
Hi,
I was wondering if I can simply recompile sendmail from the ports collection 
for 
FreeBSD 7.1 server.
I need to recompile the sendmail on the server to add Cyrus SASL2 support. The 
instructions on FreeBSD point to src /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail which doesn't 
exist and I was wondering if I could simply recompile using the ports 
collection.

Here is the instructions about compiling the Cyrus sasl2 support:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/smtp-auth.html

Thanks


  
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Re: back-stepping the ports collection with cvsup

2009-10-22 Thread Greg Larkin
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Neil Short wrote:
> I've seen this somewhere before; but I can't find it. How to backstep the 
> ports collection to a previous release.
> 
> Since the current xorg port is banged up for my equipment I want to backstep 
> it to release 7.1.
> 
> 
> -or can I connect to a previous package collection?
> 
> Thanks.
> 

Hi Neil,

You could try ports-mgmt/portdowngrade (http://bit.ly/3bqoPU), but it
may only work on one port at a time.

If you want to downgrade your whole ports tree, then you can use csup
with a supfile that specifies a date or the RELEASE_7_1_0 tag.  Have a
look at the man page section titled "CHECKOUT MODE" for the different
supfile options: http://bit.ly/3tww9G

Hope that helps,
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back-stepping the ports collection with cvsup

2009-10-22 Thread Neil Short
I've seen this somewhere before; but I can't find it. How to backstep the ports 
collection to a previous release.

Since the current xorg port is banged up for my equipment I want to backstep it 
to release 7.1.


-or can I connect to a previous package collection?

Thanks.



  
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Re: Updating the ports collection

2009-10-07 Thread krad
2009/10/7 Daniel Bye 

> On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 09:07:07PM -0400, Chris Hill wrote:
> > On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Olivier Nicole wrote:
> >
> > >Hi Chris,
> > >
> > >>The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for
> > >>obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and
> sysinstall.
> > >>
> > >>Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but
> > >>only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods.
> > >>
> > >>Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to
> > >>obtain it?
> > >
> > >I cannot speak for postsnap, but for cvsup:
> >
> > csup works (almost?) the same as cvsup, and is in the base system
> > nowadays. I used to install cvsup, but now I only install fastest_cvsup;
> > it's just a utility to find the fastest server for you at the moment.
> >
> > >Some may correct me, but I use a file that contains:
> > >
> > >*default tag=.
> > >*default host=cvsup2.jp.FreeBSD.org
> > >*default base=/var/db
> > >*default prefix=/usr
> > >*default release=cvs
> > >*default delete use-rel-suffix
> > >*default compress
> > >ports-all
> >
> > I do the same, and run csup as:
> >
> > csup -g -h `/usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup -Q -c us` /etc/supfile.ports
>
> You can set
>
> SUPHOST= `/usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup -Q -c us`
> SUPFLAGS= -g
>
> in /etc/make.conf and save yourself some typing.
>
> Dan
> you
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the above way is good but this is the simplest as it requires no additional
programs or editing

csup -h cvsup.FreeBSD.org  /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile


I use the following as its a bit faster

csup -h cvsup.uk.FreeBSD.org  /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile

you can obviously insert your own country code
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Re: Updating the ports collection

2009-10-07 Thread Daniel Bye
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 09:07:07PM -0400, Chris Hill wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Olivier Nicole wrote:
> 
> >Hi Chris,
> >
> >>The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for
> >>obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and sysinstall.
> >>
> >>Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but
> >>only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods.
> >>
> >>Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to
> >>obtain it?
> >
> >I cannot speak for postsnap, but for cvsup:
> 
> csup works (almost?) the same as cvsup, and is in the base system 
> nowadays. I used to install cvsup, but now I only install fastest_cvsup; 
> it's just a utility to find the fastest server for you at the moment.
> 
> >Some may correct me, but I use a file that contains:
> >
> >*default tag=.
> >*default host=cvsup2.jp.FreeBSD.org
> >*default base=/var/db
> >*default prefix=/usr
> >*default release=cvs
> >*default delete use-rel-suffix
> >*default compress
> >ports-all
> 
> I do the same, and run csup as:
> 
> csup -g -h `/usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup -Q -c us` /etc/supfile.ports

You can set 

SUPHOST= `/usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup -Q -c us`
SUPFLAGS= -g

in /etc/make.conf and save yourself some typing.

Dan

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Re: Updating the ports collection

2009-10-06 Thread Chris Hill

On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Olivier Nicole wrote:


Hi Chris,


The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for
obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and sysinstall.

Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but
only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods.

Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to
obtain it?


I cannot speak for postsnap, but for cvsup:


csup works (almost?) the same as cvsup, and is in the base system 
nowadays. I used to install cvsup, but now I only install fastest_cvsup; 
it's just a utility to find the fastest server for you at the moment.



Some may correct me, but I use a file that contains:

*default tag=.
*default host=cvsup2.jp.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/var/db
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
ports-all


I do the same, and run csup as:

csup -g -h `/usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup -Q -c us` /etc/supfile.ports

...where /etc/supfile.ports is pretty much as above. In that case, it 
doesn't matter what "default host" is set to, since the -h option to csup 
overrides the default. The '-c us' part applies to me, but it might not 
for you; see the man page.


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Re: Updating the ports collection

2009-10-06 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi Chris,

> The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for 
> obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and sysinstall.
> 
> Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but 
> only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods.
> 
> Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to 
> obtain it?

I cannot speak for postsnap, but for cvsup:

- you re-run sysinstall and install cvsup from the CD
  (Configure/Packages/Net/CVSup)

- or, since you installed the port tree, you go to
  /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui and you make, make install, make
  clean

> Q2: Is this explained in the handbook?  If so, where?

Some may correct me, but I use a file that contains:

*default tag=.
*default host=cvsup2.jp.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/var/db
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
ports-all

You may change the default host accordingly.

Then I use the command cvsup 

Best,

Olivier
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Re: Updating the ports collection

2009-10-06 Thread RW
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:43:56 -0700
Chris Stankevitz  wrote:

> 
> The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for 
> obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and
> sysinstall.
> 
> Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but 
> only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods.
> 
> Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to 
> obtain it?

I'd suggest that you don't use the tree from sysinstall, unless your
intent is not to update the tree until the next release.

If you use portsnap the tree gets overwritten with the "extract", so
you might as well not bother with the on-disk version. 


If you use csup then the steps are 

1. Set the tag to match the port snapshot on the disc and run csup

2. Set the tag to "." (the current tree) and run csup again

Step 1 does nothing to the tree, but if you skip it you may end with
some stale files left in your tree, which could cause serious problems.
IMO this is more trouble than it's worth unless you have a dialup
connection. 


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Re: Updating the ports collection

2009-10-06 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Chris Stankevitz wrote:
>
> The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for
> obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and sysinstall.
>
> Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but
> only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods.
>
> Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to
> obtain it?

You can use csup as explained in section 4.5.1.  This will update the
Ports Collection  you installed from CD/DVD
by fetching only the required newer files

Or, you can use portsnap too like this:

First time:
portsnap fetch extract

Subsequent times:
portsnap fetch update


If you are starting with an empty Ports tree (for example you skipped
installing it from CD during sysinstall) portsnap will be faster than
csup. (Note you can start with an empty tree and csup as well)

Anytime you decide to switch from csup to portsnap, always perform an
'extract'
>
> Q2: Is this explained in the handbook?  If so, where?
>

In section 4.5 as you noticed already. Portsnap is also revisited in
chapter 24:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-portsnap.html
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Updating the ports collection

2009-10-06 Thread Chris Stankevitz


The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for 
obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and sysinstall.


Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but 
only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods.


Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to 
obtain it?


Q2: Is this explained in the handbook?  If so, where?

Thank you,

Chris

PS: I uses sysinstall to obtain the ports collection from the CD during 
OS install

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Re: VLC from ports collection

2009-09-13 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 03:49:49PM +0200, Roy Stuivenberg wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> My install VLC did stop with remark
> 
> Port marked as IGNORE: multimedia/vlc:
> 
> In the makefile i found this line
> 
> .if ${PERL_LEVEL} < 500800
> BROKEN= Does not compile with perl ${PERL_VERSION}
> .endif
> 
> Can I (and if so who) edit this option?  [FreeBSD 7.2 stable - gnome2]

The obvious solution is for you to upgrade perl. Is there a specific
requirement for the perl version you're on?

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VLC from ports collection

2009-09-13 Thread Roy Stuivenberg
Hello,

My install VLC did stop with remark

Port marked as IGNORE: multimedia/vlc:

In the makefile i found this line

.if ${PERL_LEVEL} < 500800
BROKEN= Does not compile with perl ${PERL_VERSION}
.endif

Can I (and if so who) edit this option?  [FreeBSD 7.2 stable - gnome2]

Regards,

Roy Stuivenberg.
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Re: Ports Collection

2009-03-12 Thread FreeBSD List

Quick question Why are you using 6.4 instead of the latest (7.1)?

Keep in mind that gnome2 has a lot of dependencies. That's just the 
nature of gnome2. When you say it didn't finish, did it stop and give 
you an error? When compiling gnome2 on FreeBSD, depending on your 
hardware, it can take quite a while to complete and sometimes it'll take 
up to a few hours to finish.


I recommend you take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/index.html 
as it will give you a lot of helpful information on installing and 
running gnome2 on FreeBSD.


-- Jacques Manukyan


Mario PNH wrote:

I really liked the FreeBSD running on my ASUS desktop,
until I tried to install gnome2 and I was surprised that
it never finished it, during which it created some 20 and
more user groups like 'nobody', 'anonymous', 'aiviah', 'games', etc ...
and I am wondering if that was a normal process.

# cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2
# make install clean

I have burned the DVD of 6.4 version lately and I don't
know if that's all I needed to install gnome2 instead of
using Ports Collection.

Thanks,
Mario Palmer
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Re: Ports Collection

2009-03-12 Thread Dánielisz László
Dear Mario Palmer,

Did you tried to install the latest FreeBSD version instead of 6.4?
Did you updated your ports tree before running the make command (eg. with 
cvsup)?
You can also try installing gnome2 via pkg_add -r [-v]


Laci




From: Mario PNH 
To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:01:41 PM
Subject: Ports Collection

I really liked the FreeBSD running on my ASUS desktop,
until I tried to install gnome2 and I was surprised that
it never finished it, during which it created some 20 and
more user groups like 'nobody', 'anonymous', 'aiviah', 'games', etc ...
and I am wondering if that was a normal process.

# cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2
# make install clean

I have burned the DVD of 6.4 version lately and I don't
know if that's all I needed to install gnome2 instead of
using Ports Collection.

Thanks,
Mario Palmer
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Ports Collection

2009-03-11 Thread Mario PNH
I really liked the FreeBSD running on my ASUS desktop,
until I tried to install gnome2 and I was surprised that
it never finished it, during which it created some 20 and
more user groups like 'nobody', 'anonymous', 'aiviah', 'games', etc ...
and I am wondering if that was a normal process.

# cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2
# make install clean

I have burned the DVD of 6.4 version lately and I don't
know if that's all I needed to install gnome2 instead of
using Ports Collection.

Thanks,
Mario Palmer
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Re: unable to logon after updating ports collection - Freebsd 7.1 stable

2009-01-20 Thread Tim Judd

Bert-Jan wrote:

"Roy Stuivenberg"  writes:



After I completed my Freebsd 7.1 stable, and updated all the ports, I
got
prompted with another logonscreen.
Whatever I try, I can't login with my useraccount and even not logon as
root.
This happened severall times now, the only way was to reinstall
everything,
and I was hoping to resolve this by completly finish upgrading the
ports.
And .. again the same problem.
I'm really hoping to get some answers that will solve this problem,
maybe
someone had to deal with this  issue before ??
I will not give up, because Freebsd stole my heart.
  

The problem has nothing to do with ports. To restore your root/user
logins:
. boot into single user mode;
. set a new root password;
. set a new user password;
. boot into multiuser mode;
. login and have fun.


WBR
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I've had the same thing happen to me not 2 weeks ago after upgrading a
server from 7.0-RC2 to 7.1-RELEASE with freebsd-update. For me the problem
had nothing to do with ports but with the update itself, because it
replaced my pwd.db and spwd.db with the default ones (root with no
password, no user accounts) and since ssh doesn't accept root logins I
ended up going to the datacenter and copying the backups of those db's
back. Then everything was fine again. Very strange they got replaced
though..
Sounds like you've had something similar happen to you. Hopefully your
machine isn't too far away.

Bert-Jan
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Might I add the tempting and tendancy to change root's shell to a 
non-base shell.  While you're in single user, use a base shell if you're 
using non-base (ahem!  bash users)


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Re: unable to logon after updating ports collection - Freebsd 7.1 stable

2009-01-20 Thread Bert-Jan
> "Roy Stuivenberg"  writes:
>
>> After I completed my Freebsd 7.1 stable, and updated all the ports, I
>> got
>> prompted with another logonscreen.
>> Whatever I try, I can't login with my useraccount and even not logon as
>> root.
>> This happened severall times now, the only way was to reinstall
>> everything,
>> and I was hoping to resolve this by completly finish upgrading the
>> ports.
>> And .. again the same problem.
>> I'm really hoping to get some answers that will solve this problem,
>> maybe
>> someone had to deal with this  issue before ??
>> I will not give up, because Freebsd stole my heart.
>
> The problem has nothing to do with ports. To restore your root/user
> logins:
> . boot into single user mode;
> . set a new root password;
> . set a new user password;
> . boot into multiuser mode;
> . login and have fun.
>
>
> WBR
> --
> bsam
> ___

I've had the same thing happen to me not 2 weeks ago after upgrading a
server from 7.0-RC2 to 7.1-RELEASE with freebsd-update. For me the problem
had nothing to do with ports but with the update itself, because it
replaced my pwd.db and spwd.db with the default ones (root with no
password, no user accounts) and since ssh doesn't accept root logins I
ended up going to the datacenter and copying the backups of those db's
back. Then everything was fine again. Very strange they got replaced
though..
Sounds like you've had something similar happen to you. Hopefully your
machine isn't too far away.

Bert-Jan
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Re: unable to logon after updating ports collection - Freebsd 7.1 stable

2009-01-20 Thread Boris Samorodov
"Roy Stuivenberg"  writes:

> After I completed my Freebsd 7.1 stable, and updated all the ports, I got
> prompted with another logonscreen.
> Whatever I try, I can't login with my useraccount and even not logon as
> root.
> This happened severall times now, the only way was to reinstall everything,
> and I was hoping to resolve this by completly finish upgrading the ports.
> And .. again the same problem.
> I'm really hoping to get some answers that will solve this problem, maybe
> someone had to deal with this  issue before ??
> I will not give up, because Freebsd stole my heart.

The problem has nothing to do with ports. To restore your root/user logins:
. boot into single user mode;
. set a new root password;
. set a new user password;
. boot into multiuser mode;
. login and have fun.


WBR
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unable to logon after updating ports collection - Freebsd 7.1 stable

2009-01-20 Thread Roy Stuivenberg
Hello,

After I completed my Freebsd 7.1 stable, and updated all the ports, I got
prompted with another logonscreen.
Whatever I try, I can't login with my useraccount and even not logon as
root.
This happened severall times now, the only way was to reinstall everything,
and I was hoping to resolve this by completly finish upgrading the ports.
And .. again the same problem.
I'm really hoping to get some answers that will solve this problem, maybe
someone had to deal with this  issue before ??
I will not give up, because Freebsd stole my heart.

Regards,

Roy.
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Re: 7.0-CURRENT Ports Collection?

2007-09-30 Thread NetOpsCenter

James Jeffery wrote:


Does 7.0 come with a disk for the Ports Collection or would they have
to be downloaded from the internet?

Im having trouble getting packages from the web, lots of errors when i
try to install them. Everything seems dependant on everything else.

Once i get the SSH to work i will post some output. But for now, is there
a problem installing packages on 7.0?

Thanks
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Aloha,

I have been down loading various ports for 7.0 CURRENT since January. 2007
Only problems I have had were with the Open Office Download  and the Sun 
licensing. I have never been able to clear the errors on that issue.
All the other down loads from Ports and the OS itself have been flawless 
on several boxes with different motherboards.
Some older motherboards can give you grief with downloads and using  
HD's over  10 gigs or so.



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Re: 7.0-CURRENT Ports Collection?

2007-09-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-09-29 20:15, Aryeh Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 9/29/07, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>>> Are you attempting to download ports on 6.2 before you move to 7 or on
>>> 7?  If the and your on a SMP (dual core don't know about physically
>>> seperate) there are some known issues in the protocol stack
>>
>> Er, what issues, pray tell? :)
>
> Namely hangs and lacks of connects (in some cases you will need to
> manually fetch the dist file [it may take several attempts {*DO NOT*
> erase the old dist file after each attempt}])

That's odd.  Are you sure this is a bug in 6.2, and not some local
networking setup problem?

If you have tcpdumps and/or other useful data to track this down, then
please open a bug report, as 6.2 is used by _many_ people and a bug like
this would be annoying.

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Re: 7.0-CURRENT Ports Collection?

2007-09-29 Thread Kris Kennaway

Aryeh Friedman wrote:

On 9/29/07, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Aryeh Friedman wrote:

Are you attempting to download ports on 6.2 before you move to 7 or on
7?  If the and your on a SMP (dual core don't know about physically
seperate) there are some known issues in the protocol stack

Er, what issues, pray tell? :)


Namely hangs and lacks of connects (in some cases you will need to
manually fetch the dist file [it may take several attempts {*DO NOT*
erase the old dist file after each attempt}])


Sounds bizarre and unexpected.  Have you filed a PR with tcpdumps, etc?

Kris

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Re: 7.0-CURRENT Ports Collection?

2007-09-29 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On 9/29/07, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> > Are you attempting to download ports on 6.2 before you move to 7 or on
> > 7?  If the and your on a SMP (dual core don't know about physically
> > seperate) there are some known issues in the protocol stack
>
> Er, what issues, pray tell? :)

Namely hangs and lacks of connects (in some cases you will need to
manually fetch the dist file [it may take several attempts {*DO NOT*
erase the old dist file after each attempt}])

--Aryeh
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Re: 7.0-CURRENT Ports Collection?

2007-09-29 Thread Kris Kennaway

Aryeh Friedman wrote:

Are you attempting to download ports on 6.2 before you move to 7 or on
7?  If the and your on a SMP (dual core don't know about physically
seperate) there are some known issues in the protocol stack


Er, what issues, pray tell? :)

Kris

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Re: 7.0-CURRENT Ports Collection?

2007-09-29 Thread Aryeh Friedman
Are you attempting to download ports on 6.2 before you move to 7 or on
7?  If the and your on a SMP (dual core don't know about physically
seperate) there are some known issues in the protocol stack

On 9/29/07, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> James Jeffery wrote:
> > Does 7.0 come with a disk for the Ports Collection or would they have
> > to be downloaded from the internet?
>
> When it is released you will be able to buy a CD set containing some of
> the packages, but if you are downloading then you will have to use the
> usual methods for adding them (pkg_add -r, etc).
>
> > Im having trouble getting packages from the web, lots of errors when i
> > try to install them. Everything seems dependant on everything else.
>
> Well yeah, lots of packages do :)
>
> > Once i get the SSH to work i will post some output. But for now, is there
> > a problem installing packages on 7.0?
>
> Not in general.  Get back to us when you have more details.
>
> Kris
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Re: 7.0-CURRENT Ports Collection?

2007-09-29 Thread Kris Kennaway

James Jeffery wrote:

Does 7.0 come with a disk for the Ports Collection or would they have
to be downloaded from the internet?


When it is released you will be able to buy a CD set containing some of 
the packages, but if you are downloading then you will have to use the 
usual methods for adding them (pkg_add -r, etc).



Im having trouble getting packages from the web, lots of errors when i
try to install them. Everything seems dependant on everything else.


Well yeah, lots of packages do :)


Once i get the SSH to work i will post some output. But for now, is there
a problem installing packages on 7.0?


Not in general.  Get back to us when you have more details.

Kris

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7.0-CURRENT Ports Collection?

2007-09-29 Thread James Jeffery
Does 7.0 come with a disk for the Ports Collection or would they have
to be downloaded from the internet?

Im having trouble getting packages from the web, lots of errors when i
try to install them. Everything seems dependant on everything else.

Once i get the SSH to work i will post some output. But for now, is there
a problem installing packages on 7.0?

Thanks
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Re: ports collection background-fetch

2007-09-05 Thread RW
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:39:06 +0330
"Bahman M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the 
> > background while other parts are being compiled?
>  >
> Just login on multiple consoles or use multiple x terminals (if
> running X) and on each one run 'make' for the port you want to
> compile.  The port(s) will be fetched and compiled simultaneously.
> Then all you need to do is to run 'make install' for each port.
> 
> Note: I'm not sure but I think it's not a good practice to issue more 
> than one 'make install' at a time.
>
There's no need to do that, you just do make checksum or make
checksum-recursive, that's what portupgrade -F and portupgrade -RF do.

They don't update anything (other than the distfiles) so should be safe.
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Re: ports collection background-fetch

2007-09-05 Thread Andy Greenwood

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Bahman M. wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the
>> background while other parts are being compiled?
>  >
> Just login on multiple consoles or use multiple x terminals (if running
> X) and on each one run 'make' for the port you want to compile.  The
> port(s) will be fetched and compiled simultaneously.  Then all you need
> to do is to run 'make install' for each port.
>
> Note: I'm not sure but I think it's not a good practice to issue more
> than one 'make install' at a time.
>
> Bahman
>

Mel wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 September 2007 18:46:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the 
background

>> while other parts are being compiled?
>
> Not automatically, but if you know which ports need to be done next, 
nothing

> stops you from doing:
> cd /usr/ports/category/port && make fetch
> on a different terminal.
>

OK...


If you know the full list of leaf ports you want installed, you could do 
something like this for each port, which should fetch and allow you to 
config all your ports. You could run this on a seperate terminal for 
each port.


# cd /usr/ports/category/port && make config-recursive fetch-recursive

Downloading should never interference with compiling (other than 
faster consumption of disk space :) ), so this is an improvement that 
can/should be made. Send the recommendation to the commiters?

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Re: ports collection background-fetch

2007-09-05 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 05 September 2007 20:09:46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Bahman M. wrote:
>  > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  >> Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the
>  >> background while other parts are being compiled?
>  >
>  > Just login on multiple consoles or use multiple x terminals (if running
>  > X) and on each one run 'make' for the port you want to compile.  The
>  > port(s) will be fetched and compiled simultaneously.  Then all you need
>  > to do is to run 'make install' for each port.
>  >
>  > Note: I'm not sure but I think it's not a good practice to issue more
>  > than one 'make install' at a time.
>  >
>  > Bahman
>
> Mel wrote:
>  > On Wednesday 05 September 2007 18:46:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  >> Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the
>  >> background while other parts are being compiled?
>  >
>  > Not automatically, but if you know which ports need to be done next,
>  > nothing stops you from doing:
>  > cd /usr/ports/category/port && make fetch
>  > on a different terminal.
>
> OK...
>
> Downloading should never interference with compiling (other than faster
> consumption of disk space :) ), so this is an improvement that can/should
> be made. Send the recommendation to the commiters?

I think the logic of "what ports need to be done next" is hard to work into 
the basic ports system. You could request the feature from the various ports 
in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt - software like portupgrade should be able to build 
a list of ports that need updating and start fetching in background.

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Re: ports collection background-fetch

2007-09-05 Thread Michael C. Cambria

Philip M. Gollucci wrote:

Bahman M. wrote:
  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the
background while other parts are being compiled?
  




Wouldn't portupgrade --fetch-only work?

Run this first to grab everything, then build.  Not exactly what you 
asked for, but close



MikeC

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Re: ports collection background-fetch

2007-09-05 Thread deeptech71

Bahman M. wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the
>> background while other parts are being compiled?
>  >
> Just login on multiple consoles or use multiple x terminals (if running
> X) and on each one run 'make' for the port you want to compile.  The
> port(s) will be fetched and compiled simultaneously.  Then all you need
> to do is to run 'make install' for each port.
>
> Note: I'm not sure but I think it's not a good practice to issue more
> than one 'make install' at a time.
>
> Bahman
>

Mel wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 September 2007 18:46:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the background
>> while other parts are being compiled?
>
> Not automatically, but if you know which ports need to be done next, nothing
> stops you from doing:
> cd /usr/ports/category/port && make fetch
> on a different terminal.
>

OK...

Downloading should never interference with compiling (other than faster 
consumption of disk space :) ), so this is an improvement that can/should be 
made. Send the recommendation to the commiters?

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Re: ports collection background-fetch

2007-09-05 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:39:06 +0330
"Bahman M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[...]
> Note: I'm not sure but I think it's not a good practice to issue more 
> than one 'make install' at a time.
[...]

This is not good practice at all, since both (all) chains of make jobs
deal with the same /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db (and other files), so you can
damage the database or at least you will get a complaint from one of
(de)installs. Please read this:

  http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/#p-ports-parallel

Nikola Lečić
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Re: ports collection background-fetch

2007-09-05 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
Bahman M. wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the
>> background while other parts are being compiled?
>  >
> Just login on multiple consoles or use multiple x terminals (if running
> X) and on each one run 'make' for the port you want to compile.  The
> port(s) will be fetched and compiled simultaneously.  Then all you need
> to do is to run 'make install' for each port.
> 
> Note: I'm not sure but I think it's not a good practice to issue more
> than one 'make install' at a time.
This is fine unless 2 ports depend on the same one -- i.e the glib
related ones esp.  The makes will "rm -f the .o" files and confuse one
another.  If this happens no biggie, just rerun the make for that port
in one window.



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Re: ports collection background-fetch

2007-09-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
and on each one run 'make' for the port you want to compile.  The port(s) 
will be fetched and compiled simultaneously.  Then all you need to do is to 
run 'make install' for each port.


Note: I'm not sure but I think it's not a good practice to issue more than


i do many but only one at normal priority, and other with nice -n 20
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Re: ports collection background-fetch

2007-09-05 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 05 September 2007 18:46:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the background
> while other parts are being compiled?

Not automatically, but if you know which ports need to be done next, nothing 
stops you from doing:
cd /usr/ports/category/port && make fetch
on a different terminal.

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Re: ports collection background-fetch

2007-09-05 Thread Bahman M.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the 
background while other parts are being compiled?

>
Just login on multiple consoles or use multiple x terminals (if running 
X) and on each one run 'make' for the port you want to compile.  The 
port(s) will be fetched and compiled simultaneously.  Then all you need 
to do is to run 'make install' for each port.


Note: I'm not sure but I think it's not a good practice to issue more 
than one 'make install' at a time.


Bahman
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ports collection background-fetch

2007-09-05 Thread deeptech71
Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the background while 
other parts are being compiled?

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Re: Can't upgrade ports collection

2007-05-15 Thread Karol Kwiatkowski
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Victor Engmark wrote:
> On 5/15/07, Karol Kwiatkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Victor Engmark wrote:
>> > I'm getting reports that some of the packages I've installed have
>> > vulnerabilities when running
>> > portaudit -Fda
>> >
>> > I've tried to update the ports tree running
>> > cd /usr/ports && portsnap update
>> > , but it tells me the tree is already up to date.
[...]
>> > What am I doing wrong?
>>
>> Nothing, the ports tree is frozen right know - virtually nothing will be
>> updated until xorg 7.2 gets tested and imported[1].
>>
> 
> Cool stuff, but do you recommend I uninstall the problematic packages?

That depends on lot of factors and, unfortunately, you can only answer
yourself. I've got some vulnerable packages on _my desktop_ right now,
but that's not a problem for me. YMMV.

Another option is to patch ports manually - there's a waiting patch for
php5 port for example:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/112527

> Also,
> aren't security patches normally shipped quickly to the ports tree?

That depends on the maintainer but usually yes. It's just unfortunate
time right now :)

Cheers,

Karol


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Re: Can't upgrade ports collection

2007-05-15 Thread Victor Engmark

On 5/15/07, Karol Kwiatkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Victor Engmark wrote:
> I'm getting reports that some of the packages I've installed have
> vulnerabilities when running
> portaudit -Fda
>
> I've tried to update the ports tree running
> cd /usr/ports && portsnap update
> , but it tells me the tree is already up to date. I've also tried
removing
> everything from /usr/ports (even the dot files), and then running
> portsnap fetch && portsnap extract && portsnap update && portupgrade -a
> (portsnap update should be redundant, but just to be sure), but nothing
is
> upgraded, and portaudit still complains.
>
> What am I doing wrong?

Nothing, the ports tree is frozen right know - virtually nothing will be
updated until xorg 7.2 gets tested and imported[1].



Cool stuff, but do you recommend I uninstall the problematic packages? Also,
aren't security patches normally shipped quickly to the ports tree?

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Re: Can't upgrade ports collection

2007-05-15 Thread Karol Kwiatkowski
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Victor Engmark wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm getting reports that some of the packages I've installed have
> vulnerabilities when running
> portaudit -Fda
> 
> I've tried to update the ports tree running
> cd /usr/ports && portsnap update
> , but it tells me the tree is already up to date. I've also tried removing
> everything from /usr/ports (even the dot files), and then running
> portsnap fetch && portsnap extract && portsnap update && portupgrade -a
> (portsnap update should be redundant, but just to be sure), but nothing is
> upgraded, and portaudit still complains.
> 
> What am I doing wrong?

Nothing, the ports tree is frozen right know - virtually nothing will be
updated until xorg 7.2 gets tested and imported[1].

HTH,

Karol

[1] you might be interested in this thread:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2007-May/040680.html


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Can't upgrade ports collection

2007-05-15 Thread Victor Engmark

Hi,

I'm getting reports that some of the packages I've installed have
vulnerabilities when running
portaudit -Fda

I've tried to update the ports tree running
cd /usr/ports && portsnap update
, but it tells me the tree is already up to date. I've also tried removing
everything from /usr/ports (even the dot files), and then running
portsnap fetch && portsnap extract && portsnap update && portupgrade -a
(portsnap update should be redundant, but just to be sure), but nothing is
upgraded, and portaudit still complains.

What am I doing wrong?

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Re: GUI to ports collection on FBSD?

2007-04-17 Thread Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri

Go for Kports.

http://www.freshports.org/ports-mgmt/kports/


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Re: GUI to ports collection on FBSD?

2007-04-17 Thread Peter Ankerstål

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Joe Vender wrote:


Hi,
Is there a GUI interface to the FreeBSD
ports collection for use in kde similar to synaptic or adept?

Joe Vender


That's coming soon. I'd check out the FreeBSD SoC page; Andrew, the 
developer's listed at the top of the page: 
<http://code.google.com/soc/freebsd/about.html>.


But is this really a tool for the ports collection?
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Re: GUI to ports collection on FBSD?

2007-04-17 Thread Ivan Carey

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Joe Vender wrote:


Hi,
Is there a GUI interface to the FreeBSD
ports collection for use in kde similar to synaptic or adept?

Joe Vender


That's coming soon. I'd check out the FreeBSD SoC page; Andrew, the 
developer's listed at the top of the page: 
<http://code.google.com/soc/freebsd/about.html>.


-Garrett

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I mainly use PIB and there is kpackage and webmin

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Re: GUI to ports collection on FBSD?

2007-04-16 Thread youshi10

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Joe Vender wrote:


Hi,
Is there a GUI interface to the FreeBSD
ports collection for use in kde similar to synaptic or adept?

Joe Vender


That's coming soon. I'd check out the FreeBSD SoC page; Andrew, the developer's 
listed at the top of the page: <http://code.google.com/soc/freebsd/about.html>.

-Garrett

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GUI to ports collection on FBSD?

2007-04-16 Thread Joe Vender
Hi,
Is there a GUI interface to the FreeBSD
ports collection for use in kde similar to synaptic or adept?

Joe Vender
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Re: Looking for GIF library in the ports collection

2007-04-15 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Oliver,

  Go here:

http://www.rime.com.au/gd/

install patches to GD and your ready to roll.

Ted

PS the gif patent expired in the US a while ago but the community
has a "scorched earth" approach to it - my guess is no graphics
library author will ever put gif support back in, even when every last
patent everywhere has expired, as a warning to those who might
try similar stunts in the future.



- Original Message - 
From: "Oliver Fromme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Roland Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for GIF library in the ports collection


>
> Roland Smith wrote:
>  > Oliver Fromme wrote:
>  > > I've written a program that generates images.  Currently
>  > > it writes them in PPM format, and I would like to add
>  > > support for GIF.  So I've looked at the ports collection
>  > > for a GIF library and found -- nothing.  The only thing
>  > > that comes close is "libungif", but it doesn't create
>  > > real compressed GIF files ...
>  >
>  > You could use the 'convert' program from the ImageMagick suite. Or use
>  > its library (libMagick) that you can link into your program.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion!
>
> Well, I already considered to fork/exec an external program
> to do the job (although I would use ppmtogif from the netpbm
> port, which seems a lot less heavy-weight than ImageMagick).
> But my program will be used to create a huge number of small
> graphics, so I would prefer to avoid the additional overhead
> of fork/exec.
>
> I also noticed that libMagick is 4 MB ...  I don't really
> want to link that into my 30 KB program just to get GIF
> support.
>
> I've just had a look at sourceforge where libungif is hosted,
> noticing that there also is a "giflib" (without "un") from
> the same author, and it has the same API and same version
> number.  Both libungif and giflib seem to be maintained in
> parallel, but the latter is missing from the FreeBSD ports
> collection.  I think I'm giving that one a try.
>
> Best regards
>Oliver
>
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Re: Looking for GIF library in the ports collection

2007-04-15 Thread Oliver Fromme

Roland Smith wrote:
 > Oliver Fromme wrote:
 > > I've written a program that generates images.  Currently
 > > it writes them in PPM format, and I would like to add
 > > support for GIF.  So I've looked at the ports collection
 > > for a GIF library and found -- nothing.  The only thing
 > > that comes close is "libungif", but it doesn't create
 > > real compressed GIF files ...
 > 
 > You could use the 'convert' program from the ImageMagick suite. Or use
 > its library (libMagick) that you can link into your program.

Thanks for the suggestion!

Well, I already considered to fork/exec an external program
to do the job (although I would use ppmtogif from the netpbm
port, which seems a lot less heavy-weight than ImageMagick).
But my program will be used to create a huge number of small
graphics, so I would prefer to avoid the additional overhead
of fork/exec.

I also noticed that libMagick is 4 MB ...  I don't really
want to link that into my 30 KB program just to get GIF
support.

I've just had a look at sourceforge where libungif is hosted,
noticing that there also is a "giflib" (without "un") from
the same author, and it has the same API and same version
number.  Both libungif and giflib seem to be maintained in
parallel, but the latter is missing from the FreeBSD ports
collection.  I think I'm giving that one a try.

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: Looking for GIF library in the ports collection

2007-04-15 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 07:40:08PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've written a program that generates images.  Currently
> it writes them in PPM format, and I would like to add
> support for GIF.  So I've looked at the ports collection
> for a GIF library and found -- nothing.  The only thing
> that comes close is "libungif", but it doesn't create
> real compressed GIF files ...

You could use the 'convert' program from the ImageMagick suite. Or use
its library (libMagick) that you can link into your program. 

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Looking for GIF library in the ports collection

2007-04-15 Thread Oliver Fromme
Hi,

I've written a program that generates images.  Currently
it writes them in PPM format, and I would like to add
support for GIF.  So I've looked at the ports collection
for a GIF library and found -- nothing.  The only thing
that comes close is "libungif", but it doesn't create
real compressed GIF files ...

$ ./mytool -f ppm | ppmtogif > test1.gif
$ ./mytool -f gif > test2.gif
$ ls -l test?.gif
-rw-r--r--  1 olli  olli642 Apr 15 19:28 test1.gif
-rw-r--r--  1 olli  olli  14498 Apr 15 19:28 test2.gif

Any suggestions?  (I cannot use PNG because I need to
stay compatible with certain legacy applications that
don't support PNG.)

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: Ports collection issue

2006-10-27 Thread Jonathan Arnold

Lane wrote:

On Friday 27 October 2006 07:16, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote:

Lane wrote:

Adrian,

Use /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui and create a cvsupfile.  You can
then selectively install src-all, src-contrib, ports-all and any of the
various ports sub-trees that you need (but stick with ports-all).

cvsup will get the proper Makefiles and whatnot for you.

Email me if you need help setting that up.

lane

I would recommend using csup instead of cvsup.
It has fewer dependencies, is very lightweight and works very well
if you just want to occasionally checkout ports or src.
I believe that csup is also part of the basesystem in newer releases.

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OMG!

I totally missed csup.  Thanks for the tip!


You might look into portsnap.  I find it much easier and faster to use than
c[v]sup:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/portsnap.html

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Re: Ports collection issue

2006-10-27 Thread Andy Greenwood

On 10/27/06, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Andy Greenwood wrote:
> Is it possible to use csup with my existing cvsup files? I skimmed the
> man page and it looks very similar. Is there any advantage to using
> cvsup over csup?

I use the same files for csup as I used for cvsup. You should not
have to change anything except removing the 'v' after the 'c' in
'cvsup' on the command-line. :)

Csup is basically cvsup rewritten in C instead of Modula-3. While
cvsup is an excellent program that certainly makes exactly what it
was designed to do, it unfortunately has some dependencies that are
not common on most installations.
I do not know of any advantages that cvsup might have over csup,
more then the fact that it is a thoroughly tested program that has
performed well for several years, while csup is a relatively new
program. AFAIK there has not been any reports of problem with csup
though, so I would say its safe to use.



Thanks for the info! Anything I can do to reduce dependancies on my
underpowered frankenstein box is a good thing!

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Re: Ports collection issue

2006-10-27 Thread Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg
Andy Greenwood wrote:
> Is it possible to use csup with my existing cvsup files? I skimmed the
> man page and it looks very similar. Is there any advantage to using
> cvsup over csup?

I use the same files for csup as I used for cvsup. You should not
have to change anything except removing the 'v' after the 'c' in
'cvsup' on the command-line. :)

Csup is basically cvsup rewritten in C instead of Modula-3. While
cvsup is an excellent program that certainly makes exactly what it
was designed to do, it unfortunately has some dependencies that are
not common on most installations.
I do not know of any advantages that cvsup might have over csup,
more then the fact that it is a thoroughly tested program that has
performed well for several years, while csup is a relatively new
program. AFAIK there has not been any reports of problem with csup
though, so I would say its safe to use.

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csup vs. cvsup [was: Ports collection issue]

2006-10-27 Thread Karol Kwiatkowski
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On 27/10/2006 14:41, Andy Greenwood wrote:
> On 10/27/06, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I would recommend using csup instead of cvsup.
>> It has fewer dependencies, is very lightweight and works very well
>> if you just want to occasionally checkout ports or src.
>> I believe that csup is also part of the basesystem in newer releases.
>>
> Is it possible to use csup with my existing cvsup files? I skimmed
> the man page and it looks very similar. Is there any advantage to
> using cvsup over csup?

I'm not sure if there are any, but csup is simply a reimplementation
of cvsup in C, as manpage says.

I'm using it as a replacement, here's a snip of my update-src.sh
script (I was previously using cvsup):

% [...]
% CSUP=/usr/bin/csup
% CVSUP=/usr/local/bin/cvsup
%
% CVS_UPDATER=${CSUP}
% [...]
% ${CVS_UPDATER} -L 2 -h ${SERVER} /root/supfiles/standard
% [...]

HTH,

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Re: Ports collection issue

2006-10-27 Thread Lane
On Friday 27 October 2006 07:16, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote:
> Lane wrote:
> > Adrian,
> >
> > Use /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui and create a cvsupfile.  You can
> > then selectively install src-all, src-contrib, ports-all and any of the
> > various ports sub-trees that you need (but stick with ports-all).
> >
> > cvsup will get the proper Makefiles and whatnot for you.
> >
> > Email me if you need help setting that up.
> >
> > lane
>
> I would recommend using csup instead of cvsup.
> It has fewer dependencies, is very lightweight and works very well
> if you just want to occasionally checkout ports or src.
> I believe that csup is also part of the basesystem in newer releases.
>
> --
> R
>
OMG!

I totally missed csup.  Thanks for the tip!

lane
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Re: Ports collection issue

2006-10-27 Thread Andy Greenwood

Is it possible to use csup with my existing cvsup files? I skimmed the
man page and it looks very similar. Is there any advantage to using
cvsup over csup?

On 10/27/06, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Lane wrote:

> Adrian,
>
> Use /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui and create a cvsupfile.  You can then
> selectively install src-all, src-contrib, ports-all and any of the various
> ports sub-trees that you need (but stick with ports-all).
>
> cvsup will get the proper Makefiles and whatnot for you.
>
> Email me if you need help setting that up.
>
> lane

I would recommend using csup instead of cvsup.
It has fewer dependencies, is very lightweight and works very well
if you just want to occasionally checkout ports or src.
I believe that csup is also part of the basesystem in newer releases.

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Re: Ports collection issue

2006-10-27 Thread Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg
Lane wrote:

> Adrian,
> 
> Use /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui and create a cvsupfile.  You can then 
> selectively install src-all, src-contrib, ports-all and any of the various 
> ports sub-trees that you need (but stick with ports-all).
> 
> cvsup will get the proper Makefiles and whatnot for you.
> 
> Email me if you need help setting that up.
> 
> lane

I would recommend using csup instead of cvsup.
It has fewer dependencies, is very lightweight and works very well
if you just want to occasionally checkout ports or src.
I believe that csup is also part of the basesystem in newer releases.

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Re: Ports collection issue

2006-10-27 Thread Garrett Cooper
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Lane wrote:
> On Thursday 26 October 2006 23:16, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>> Lane wrote:
>>> On Thursday 26 October 2006 19:07, Rik Davis wrote:
>>>> Guys,
>>>>
>>>>   I'm a die hard freebsd user, but I am finding myself becomeing quite
>>>> frustrated with why you completely pulled the 5.4 ports collection off
>>>> of your ftp sites.
>>>>
>>>>   When I try to use my /stand/sysinstall now and attempt to connect to
>>>> you ftp server, I ge the error that it cannot locate the 5.4-RELEASE
>>>> packages. Why would you remove a collection that is still in such high
>>>> demand by those of us that have yet to upgrade our binaries to a later
>>>> version?
>>>>
>>>>   I depend on that being there, but this is not leaving a very pleasant
>>>> taste in my mouth. Also, this is not the first time I have seen you do
>>>> this. What am I supposed to do now that I no longer have access to those
>>>> packages?
>>>>
>>>>   Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>>   Adrian Brooks
>>> Adrian,
>>>
>>> Use /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui and create a cvsupfile.  You can
>>> then selectively install src-all, src-contrib, ports-all and any of the
>>> various ports sub-trees that you need (but stick with ports-all).
>>>
>>> cvsup will get the proper Makefiles and whatnot for you.
>>>
>>> Email me if you need help setting that up.
>>>
>>> lane
>> Adrian,
>>  Please note the fact that a lot of software distributors,
>> regardless of whether you pay for the product or not, have a limited set
>> of supported versions of their software for a reason.
>>  In this case FreeBSD did phase out their old versions of
>> software for a reason, and that was supportability and space as Kris
>> mentioned. So, please upgrade to the latest version of your major
>> version fork (5.5 I believe).
>>  That is all.
>> -Garrett
> 
> Just a note for clarification:
> 
> While the source and ports collection for 5.X may NOT be available using 
> sysinstall, it should be recognized that sysinstall is really only reliable 
> for initial installation of whatever is the current version (give or take a 
> release or two).
> 
> cvsup and portupgrade are the preferred methods for maintaining the software.
> 
> Just for verification I have recently used cvsup to download the entire 
> FreeBSD-3.4 system, including ports (That's right, 3.4).  While the ports may 
> not be tied directly to the kernel version, they are there as well.
> 
> So, space considerations may be important to the maintainers, but I think 
> they 
> put a premium on continuity.  And being able to go backward three different 
> versions is pretty darned cool!
> 
> lane

Well, fair enough.. the only thing is that the number of people who can
reply with a "Hey, I can help you with that particular issue" response
is much greater for more recent versions. Plus, if you do run into a
seriously issue with a driver or interface, you're sort of stuck into
upgrading anyhow..
Backwards compatibility is good though, even at the cost of going into
unknown territory by yourself as (almost) everyone else has updated
their versions to something a bit more current :).
Plus, I'd be sure that any issues that existed security-wise do or
don't affect the version you currently have if it's out of date. For
instance, the OpenSSL buffer overrun issue that was discovered 2 months
ago I think. I believe that the issue was fixed and patched in a few CVS
source trees, but not in others.
So related to my previous comments, in general these are 2 important
questions to consider when administering your system:
1. Is it or is it not secure, due to lack of support?
2. If not, how much is it worth to me to manually update and patch the
source (assuming it's possible) to fix the vulnerabilities present in my
system instead of just upgrading?
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Re: Ports collection issue

2006-10-26 Thread Lane
On Thursday 26 October 2006 23:16, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> Lane wrote:
> > On Thursday 26 October 2006 19:07, Rik Davis wrote:
> >> Guys,
> >>
> >>   I'm a die hard freebsd user, but I am finding myself becomeing quite
> >> frustrated with why you completely pulled the 5.4 ports collection off
> >> of your ftp sites.
> >>
> >>   When I try to use my /stand/sysinstall now and attempt to connect to
> >> you ftp server, I ge the error that it cannot locate the 5.4-RELEASE
> >> packages. Why would you remove a collection that is still in such high
> >> demand by those of us that have yet to upgrade our binaries to a later
> >> version?
> >>
> >>   I depend on that being there, but this is not leaving a very pleasant
> >> taste in my mouth. Also, this is not the first time I have seen you do
> >> this. What am I supposed to do now that I no longer have access to those
> >> packages?
> >>
> >>   Sincerely,
> >>
> >>   Adrian Brooks
> >
> > Adrian,
> >
> > Use /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui and create a cvsupfile.  You can
> > then selectively install src-all, src-contrib, ports-all and any of the
> > various ports sub-trees that you need (but stick with ports-all).
> >
> > cvsup will get the proper Makefiles and whatnot for you.
> >
> > Email me if you need help setting that up.
> >
> > lane
>
> Adrian,
>   Please note the fact that a lot of software distributors,
> regardless of whether you pay for the product or not, have a limited set
> of supported versions of their software for a reason.
>   In this case FreeBSD did phase out their old versions of
> software for a reason, and that was supportability and space as Kris
> mentioned. So, please upgrade to the latest version of your major
> version fork (5.5 I believe).
>   That is all.
> -Garrett

Just a note for clarification:

While the source and ports collection for 5.X may NOT be available using 
sysinstall, it should be recognized that sysinstall is really only reliable 
for initial installation of whatever is the current version (give or take a 
release or two).

cvsup and portupgrade are the preferred methods for maintaining the software.

Just for verification I have recently used cvsup to download the entire 
FreeBSD-3.4 system, including ports (That's right, 3.4).  While the ports may 
not be tied directly to the kernel version, they are there as well.

So, space considerations may be important to the maintainers, but I think they 
put a premium on continuity.  And being able to go backward three different 
versions is pretty darned cool!

lane
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Re: Ports collection issue

2006-10-26 Thread Garrett Cooper
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Lane wrote:
> On Thursday 26 October 2006 19:07, Rik Davis wrote:
>> Guys,
>>
>>   I'm a die hard freebsd user, but I am finding myself becomeing quite
>> frustrated with why you completely pulled the 5.4 ports collection off of
>> your ftp sites.
>>
>>   When I try to use my /stand/sysinstall now and attempt to connect to you
>> ftp server, I ge the error that it cannot locate the 5.4-RELEASE packages.
>> Why would you remove a collection that is still in such high demand by
>> those of us that have yet to upgrade our binaries to a later version?
>>
>>   I depend on that being there, but this is not leaving a very pleasant
>> taste in my mouth. Also, this is not the first time I have seen you do
>> this. What am I supposed to do now that I no longer have access to those
>> packages?
>>
>>   Sincerely,
>>
>>   Adrian Brooks
>>
>>
> Adrian,
> 
> Use /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui and create a cvsupfile.  You can then 
> selectively install src-all, src-contrib, ports-all and any of the various 
> ports sub-trees that you need (but stick with ports-all).
> 
> cvsup will get the proper Makefiles and whatnot for you.
> 
> Email me if you need help setting that up.
> 
> lane

Adrian,
Please note the fact that a lot of software distributors,
regardless of whether you pay for the product or not, have a limited set
of supported versions of their software for a reason.
In this case FreeBSD did phase out their old versions of
software for a reason, and that was supportability and space as Kris
mentioned. So, please upgrade to the latest version of your major
version fork (5.5 I believe).
That is all.
- -Garrett
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Re: Ports collection issue

2006-10-26 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 05:07:54PM -0700, Rik Davis wrote:
> Guys,
>

> I'm a die hard freebsd user, but I am finding myself becomeing quite
> frustrated with why you completely pulled the 5.4 ports collection
> off of your ftp sites.

Because 5.4 was released nearly 18 months ago and disk space is
finite.

Note that even after moving aside the 5.4 packages to make enough room
to fit the forthcoming 6.2 packages, the FTP site takes up close to
half a terabyte of space.

> When I try to use my /stand/sysinstall now and attempt to connect to
> you ftp server, I ge the error that it cannot locate the 5.4-RELEASE
> packages. Why would you remove a collection that is still in such
> high demand by those of us that have yet to upgrade our binaries to
> a later version?
>
> I depend on that being there, but this is not leaving a very
> pleasant taste in my mouth. Also, this is not the first time I have
> seen you do this. What am I supposed to do now that I no longer have
> access to those packages?

Use an alternative mirror which still carries the old releases.  For
example ftp-archive.freebsd.org, and probably others.

In future you might like to consider alternative explanations than
malicious intent on the part of FreeBSD to harm you, before posting.

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Re: Ports collection issue

2006-10-26 Thread Lane
On Thursday 26 October 2006 19:07, Rik Davis wrote:
> Guys,
>
>   I'm a die hard freebsd user, but I am finding myself becomeing quite
> frustrated with why you completely pulled the 5.4 ports collection off of
> your ftp sites.
>
>   When I try to use my /stand/sysinstall now and attempt to connect to you
> ftp server, I ge the error that it cannot locate the 5.4-RELEASE packages.
> Why would you remove a collection that is still in such high demand by
> those of us that have yet to upgrade our binaries to a later version?
>
>   I depend on that being there, but this is not leaving a very pleasant
> taste in my mouth. Also, this is not the first time I have seen you do
> this. What am I supposed to do now that I no longer have access to those
> packages?
>
>   Sincerely,
>
>   Adrian Brooks
>
>
Adrian,

Use /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui and create a cvsupfile.  You can then 
selectively install src-all, src-contrib, ports-all and any of the various 
ports sub-trees that you need (but stick with ports-all).

cvsup will get the proper Makefiles and whatnot for you.

Email me if you need help setting that up.

lane
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Ports collection issue

2006-10-26 Thread Rik Davis
Guys,
   
  I'm a die hard freebsd user, but I am finding myself becomeing quite 
frustrated with why you completely pulled the 5.4 ports collection off of your 
ftp sites.
   
  When I try to use my /stand/sysinstall now and attempt to connect to you ftp 
server, I ge the error that it cannot locate the 5.4-RELEASE packages. Why 
would you remove a collection that is still in such high demand by those of us 
that have yet to upgrade our binaries to a later version?
   
  I depend on that being there, but this is not leaving a very pleasant taste 
in my mouth. Also, this is not the first time I have seen you do this. What am 
I supposed to do now that I no longer have access to those packages?
   
  Sincerely,
   
  Adrian Brooks


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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-13 Thread Frank Shute
On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 08:19:22AM -0400, ograbme wrote:
>
> Hello Frank,
> 
> Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 10:41:17 PM, you wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> FS> Go grab the compressed, reasonably up to date ports tree:
> 
> FS> $ fetch -dpv ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz
> 
> FS> (warning! 35MB compressed)
> 
> Will do when I have Internet connection via FreeBSD box.  Need to set
> up ADSL connection - am currently reading about that process.  Also,
> need to figure out how USB gets set up properly.  But these are two
> separate issues that I will probably be asking about in the very near
> future ... if I haven't managed to make any real progress in these
> areas.

I didn't realise you didn't have a network connection yet!

For usb, you need:

usbd_enable="YES"

in /etc/rc.conf

The handbook is your best bet to get your network connection going.
Any problems, just post here.

> 
> FS> and:
> 
> FS> # mv ports.tar.gz /usr/ports
> FS> # cd /usr/ports
> FS> # tar xvzf ports.tar.gz
> 
> FS> to build sudo, first check that there's nothing funny with building
> FS> sudo:
> 
> FS> $ cat /usr/ports/UPDATING | grep sudo
> 
> FS> if there's nothing then:
> 
> FS> # cd /usr/ports/security/sudo/
> FS> # make install clean
> 
> Thanks for the detailed steps.
> 
> FS> Then read the handbook about keeping your ports tree up to date using
> FS> portsnap or cvsup.
> 
> Will do.
> 
> >> 
> >> P.S.  Please advise what the proper mode of responding is in terms of
> >> replying.  I did a "reply all" ...
> >> 
> >> 
> 
> FS> That's OK. I usually post to the list and cc to the person who posted
> FS> in the first place as they may not be subscribed to the list.
> 
> Yes, this was my line of thinking, but don't want to upset anyone as
> I am a newbie here. ;)

Yeah, it always helps if you don't piss off everybody when you're
tring to get help ;)

> 
> FS> Welcome to FreeBSD!
> 
> Thanks.  Appreciate it, Frank.
> 

No worries.

BTW, you can get back to the installer with:

# /stand/sysinstall

and from there with your discs you can install a limited amount of
ports/packages.

Best of luck with it. It will take you some blood, sweat and tears to
familiarise yourself with FreeBSD but once you've gone through the
initial learning process and setting up the basics such as networking
and email, it's very easy to maintain your system and install software
- much easier than Linux IMHO. The ports system for application
software and buildkernel/buildworld for upgrading your base system are
very effective.

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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-13 Thread Daniel Bye
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 05:30:43PM -0700, Perry Hutchison wrote:
> > > ... at least in my recent experience, an up-to-date ports tree 
> > > does not always play nicely with a not-updated base install from
> > > CD.
> >
> > That's very interesting. However, the ports tree on the CD isn't
> > complete, as in: not all the ports are there.
> 
> Any idea why?  (I am referring to the ports tree itself, i.e. the
> collection of skeleton directories.  The set of distfiles provided
> on CDs 3 and 4 is necessarily incomplete, both due to limited space
> and because some distfiles have legal restrictions that prevent 
> their inclusion.)

Because since the release CD was cut, the porters have been tirelessly
porting new software and updating existing software - the ports tree is
pretty much in a constant state of growth and development.  As soon as 
the release is cut, the included ports tree is out of date.

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Re[2]: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-13 Thread ograbme
Hello Frank,

Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 10:41:17 PM, you wrote:



FS> Go grab the compressed, reasonably up to date ports tree:

FS> $ fetch -dpv ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz

FS> (warning! 35MB compressed)

Will do when I have Internet connection via FreeBSD box.  Need to set
up ADSL connection - am currently reading about that process.  Also,
need to figure out how USB gets set up properly.  But these are two
separate issues that I will probably be asking about in the very near
future ... if I haven't managed to make any real progress in these
areas.

FS> and:

FS> # mv ports.tar.gz /usr/ports
FS> # cd /usr/ports
FS> # tar xvzf ports.tar.gz

FS> to build sudo, first check that there's nothing funny with building
FS> sudo:

FS> $ cat /usr/ports/UPDATING | grep sudo

FS> if there's nothing then:

FS> # cd /usr/ports/security/sudo/
FS> # make install clean

Thanks for the detailed steps.

FS> Then read the handbook about keeping your ports tree up to date using
FS> portsnap or cvsup.

Will do.

>> 
>> P.S.  Please advise what the proper mode of responding is in terms of
>> replying.  I did a "reply all" ...
>> 
>> 

FS> That's OK. I usually post to the list and cc to the person who posted
FS> in the first place as they may not be subscribed to the list.

Yes, this was my line of thinking, but don't want to upset anyone as
I am a newbie here. ;)

FS> Welcome to FreeBSD!

Thanks.  Appreciate it, Frank.

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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Frank Shute
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 04:02:33PM -0400, ograbme wrote:
>
> Howdie Jeff (if I may) and others,
> 
> Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 6:41:38 AM, you wrote:
> 
> JR> On 12/09/06, Arindam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> >>
> >> I chose not to install the ports collection because as of now, I do
> >> not have access to Internet in my home-network and it would take a
> >> little while before I can set it up for browsing.
> 
> 
> 
> I too took this same approach as the box I installed FreeBSD 6.1
> Release is not hooked up to the Internet.  I bypassed installing the
> Ports collection.  The installation went well and I have been
> refamiliarizing myself with Unix CLI commands and reading bits and
> pieces of documentation here and there. FreeBSD is pretty neat and has
> quite a few subtle differences from systems I worked on some years
> back, i.e., Solaris, HP-UX, etc.
> 
> Anyway, now I would like to install the ports collection without
> having to reinstall the whole system again, if possible, thus my
> interest in this thread.
> 
> For instance, I decided I wanted to install sudo ...
> 
> 
> 
> JR> The FreeBSD installation program asks if you want "to install the ports
> JR> collection," but what it actually does is install a bunch of directories
> JR> (under /usr/ports) that you can use to browse what's available in the 
> ports
> JR> collection. For example, to download a port, say, Firefox compiled for use
> JR> with the Linux compatibility layer, go into /usr/ports/linux/linux-firefox
> JR> and type:
> 
> JR> $ make install clean
> 
> Using the above info, I created /usr/ports directory (/usr was there,
> but not /ports of course as I hadn't installed the Ports collection).
> I created another directory under /usr/ports/ named /sudo, thus
> resulting in /usr/ports/sudo.
> 
> I had mounted the ports CD I have and located sudo-1.6.8p12.tar.gz in
> the distfiles directory.  I copied it over into the /usr/ports/sudo
> directory, gunzipped it, and then untarred it.
> 
> I then made sure I was in the directory containing sudo.c and all its
> attendent other files and tried the above "make install clean".
> Unfortunately it was a no-go.  Resultant message I received was:
> 
>  "make: Don't know how to make install.  Stop"
> 
> Obviously I've done something wrong here ... misstepped or tried to do
> the impossible, huh? LOL! Perhaps, sudo can only be installed via the
> pkg-add route per your mention below? I invoked sysinstall, but didn't
> see right away anything clearly indicating the "path to take" in
> resolving my dilemma. I'll keep reading and trying and may be stumble
> across the proper way to accomplish this, but all the while monitoring
> this email list for further enlightenment.
> 
> Then again, may be I should just do a complete new install and select
> "Yes" to installing the Ports collection at that time, huh?  Nah,
> one has to mess up to learn!  And trust me, I've learned quite a bit
> by reading yours and others comments and suggestions.  Thank for all
> of you being so willing to share your knowledge.
> 
> Thanks in advance.

Go grab the compressed, reasonably up to date ports tree:

$ fetch -dpv ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz

(warning! 35MB compressed)

and:

# mv ports.tar.gz /usr/ports
# cd /usr/ports
# tar xvzf ports.tar.gz

to build sudo, first check that there's nothing funny with building
sudo:

$ cat /usr/ports/UPDATING | grep sudo

if there's nothing then:

# cd /usr/ports/security/sudo/
# make install clean

Then read the handbook about keeping your ports tree up to date using
portsnap or cvsup.

> 
> P.S.  Please advise what the proper mode of responding is in terms of
> replying.  I did a "reply all" (to both Jeff and the list) for my
> first submission.  However, perhaps I should of only replied to the
> list to eliminate unnecessary traffic.
> 
> 
> 

That's OK. I usually post to the list and cc to the person who posted
in the first place as they may not be subscribed to the list.

Welcome to FreeBSD!

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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Donald J. O'Neill

Perry Hutchison wrote:
... at least in my recent experience, an up-to-date ports tree 
does not always play nicely with a not-updated base install from
CD.

That's very interesting. However, the ports tree on the CD isn't
complete, as in: not all the ports are there.


Any idea why?  (I am referring to the ports tree itself, i.e. the
collection of skeleton directories.  The set of distfiles provided
on CDs 3 and 4 is necessarily incomplete, both due to limited space
and because some distfiles have legal restrictions that prevent 
their inclusion.)



I stopped installing the ports tree from the install CD a long
time ago for that reason.


Perhaps sysinstall's rather strong recommendation to install the
ports ought to be toned down a bit, e.g. to suggest installing
the ports from CD only if one does not have a high-speed Internet
connection.



You've asked a question, given some clarification as to what you are 
referring to, and I can tell you I don't have anything other than 
possibilities - which may be far from the truth - as to why this is. 
You're referring to a 4 CD set, that can't be downloaded from 
FreeBSD.org, that has to come from somewhere else, such as the
FreeBSD Mall or somewhere else. I would use that if I couldn't connect 
to the Internet at all.


Maybe, I should say: I can't tell you why it is that way. I've never 
been very concerned about it, just understood that it was that way and 
lived with it. I've never had a problem with an up-to-date ports tree 
not playing nicely with a RELEASE or a STABLE install. I suspect the 
reason is that I just never happened to up-date the ports tree at a time 
when there were problems. It does happen at times, but then... You've 
probably heard the advice "somethings wrong with your ports tree, blow 
it off and re-install it." It's not a big problem to deal with, the 
problem comes when you need to do it and don't.


Sysinstall only asks if you want to install the ports tree. If I was 
going to update it with cvsup, I would install it from there. I use 
portsnap, so I don't install it from the CD.



Yes, I have a hi-speed connection. It makes things easier. I wouldn't be 
without it.


Don
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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Perry Hutchison
> > ... at least in my recent experience, an up-to-date ports tree 
> > does not always play nicely with a not-updated base install from
> > CD.
>
> That's very interesting. However, the ports tree on the CD isn't
> complete, as in: not all the ports are there.

Any idea why?  (I am referring to the ports tree itself, i.e. the
collection of skeleton directories.  The set of distfiles provided
on CDs 3 and 4 is necessarily incomplete, both due to limited space
and because some distfiles have legal restrictions that prevent 
their inclusion.)

> I stopped installing the ports tree from the install CD a long
> time ago for that reason.

Perhaps sysinstall's rather strong recommendation to install the
ports ought to be toned down a bit, e.g. to suggest installing
the ports from CD only if one does not have a high-speed Internet
connection.
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Re: Re[4]: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Jeff Rollin

On 12/09/06, ograbme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello Jeff,

First of all ... thanks for your help and suggestions ... please see
comments interwoven below.

Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 4:20:51 PM, you wrote:



JR> You need to go back into sysinstall and install the ports
JR> collection. That will give you the framework for downloading
JR> ports, but you will not be able to install them without network
JR> access.

Understand.

JR> If you want to install a package, the easiest way without
JR> network access is to go back into sysinstall and choose it from
JR> the "Packages" item. But, if the package you want is not available
JR> on the FreeBSD install discs (if you need to eject one and insert
JR> the other, it will tell you to), and you don't have a network
JR> connection, I'm afraid you're out of luck.

This is the approach I took.  All looked like it was going well until
the point of needing to switch cdroms.  Couldn't do it.  My cdrom
would not eject so I could switch CDROMs.  Not sure what the problem
was/is, but got to thinking because it was mounted, i.e., mount /cdrom
manually initially by me before starting the "sysinstall" command.
Anyone I just ignored trying to install those packages that I had
selected and eventually finished up, but when finished, I could not
find the /usr/ports directory ... even though sysinstall reported
individually the selected packages were installed properly during the
process.  Oh well, something went awry.  I'll try again with hopefully
only selecting items from one cdrom to try to control the process in
that regard and see if I experience the same result.

JR> If there's nothing else wrong with your system, you don't
JR> need to reinstall; just type "sysinstall" as the root user and
JR> you're in.

I cannot with certainly vouch there is nothing wrong with my system.
It hasn't locked up; it hasn't conked out on me; I've been able to do
a number of things (albeit they are cursory type things ... nothing
big ... executing various Unix commands, creating a few small C
programs and compiling them with gcc tool, etc) thus far, without
incident.

JR> BTW, I would delete your manually-created /usr/ports
JR> directory and everything in it, just in case.

I did this prior to the above steps.  The release I have installed is
FreeBSD 6.1 Release #0 May 07 ... perhaps this is part of the problems
I'm experiencing.  I bought the FreeBSD Mall 4 CDROM, May 2006
set.  May be I need to try to get a newer version.  I think I saw
where there is some release #2 mentioned by various list members.  I
suppose I could download it from the web site and burn it.  I'd only
need the first cdrom, right?

Thanks in advance.  While I may not be making "leaps and bounds", I do
feel I'm making some headway!

Take care.



This sounds like a bug to me; before you do anything else I would:

1. Make sure there is no /usr/ports directory;

2. Insert the FBSD CDROM, *without mounting it*

3. Run sysinstall and attempt to install the ports tree again.

If this doesn't work, I would download the FBSD 6.1 CD from a mirror (it was
6.1 you were using, wasn't it?), burn it, and reinstall. If you are sure you
don't need any packages from CD2, you can forgo downloading and burning that
one. In fact if you have the net connection (and the patience), you can
download a "bootonly" iso that, when used to boot the system, downloads
everything else needed from the net.

HTH (especially as if it does not, I'm out of ideas! :-/)

BTW, if you DO end up reinstalling, make sure you reformat your partitions,
as I have sometimes run out of space when attempting to reinstall on
partitions with data still on them.


Jeff
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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Donald J. O'Neill

Perry Hutchison wrote:
Before you can build from ports, you need to have ports tree
in place, the standard way to do this is by running portsnap.
 
with the caveat that, at least in my recent experience, an

up-to-date ports tree does not always play nicely with a
not-updated base install from CD.  OP might be better off
loading the ports collection from the same CD set as the
rest of the system.
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That's very interesting. However, the ports tree on the CD isn't 
complete, as in: not all the ports are there. I stopped installing the 
ports tree from the install CD a long time ago for that reason.


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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Perry Hutchison
> Before you can build from ports, you need to have ports tree
> in place, the standard way to do this is by running portsnap.
 
with the caveat that, at least in my recent experience, an
up-to-date ports tree does not always play nicely with a
not-updated base install from CD.  OP might be better off
loading the ports collection from the same CD set as the
rest of the system.
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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread RW
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 21:02, ograbme wrote:

> I had mounted the ports CD I have and located sudo-1.6.8p12.tar.gz in
> the distfiles directory.  I copied it over into the /usr/ports/sudo
> directory, gunzipped it, and then untarred it.
>
> I then made sure I was in the directory containing sudo.c and all its
> attendent other files and tried the above "make install clean".
> Unfortunately it was a no-go.  Resultant message I received was:
>
>  "make: Don't know how to make install.  Stop"
>
> Obviously I've done something wrong here ... misstepped or tried to do
> the impossible, huh? LOL! Perhaps,

The ports collection is a set of recipes that enable the the ports system to 
automatically fetch the source, extract it, patch it, build and install the 
result. You can do all this manually, but it's often not straightforward. And 
the added advantage is that software that's installed through the ports 
system is also registered in the package database- making it easier to 
deinstall and upgrade.  

Before you can build from ports, you need to have ports tree in place, the 
standard way to do this is by running portsnap.
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Re[2]: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread ograbme
Howdie Jeff (if I may) and others,

Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 6:41:38 AM, you wrote:

JR> On 12/09/06, Arindam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>>
>> I chose not to install the ports collection because as of now, I do
>> not have access to Internet in my home-network and it would take a
>> little while before I can set it up for browsing.



I too took this same approach as the box I installed FreeBSD 6.1
Release is not hooked up to the Internet.  I bypassed installing the
Ports collection.  The installation went well and I have been
refamiliarizing myself with Unix CLI commands and reading bits and
pieces of documentation here and there. FreeBSD is pretty neat and has
quite a few subtle differences from systems I worked on some years
back, i.e., Solaris, HP-UX, etc.

Anyway, now I would like to install the ports collection without
having to reinstall the whole system again, if possible, thus my
interest in this thread.

For instance, I decided I wanted to install sudo ...



JR> The FreeBSD installation program asks if you want "to install the ports
JR> collection," but what it actually does is install a bunch of directories
JR> (under /usr/ports) that you can use to browse what's available in the ports
JR> collection. For example, to download a port, say, Firefox compiled for use
JR> with the Linux compatibility layer, go into /usr/ports/linux/linux-firefox
JR> and type:

JR> $ make install clean

Using the above info, I created /usr/ports directory (/usr was there,
but not /ports of course as I hadn't installed the Ports collection).
I created another directory under /usr/ports/ named /sudo, thus
resulting in /usr/ports/sudo.

I had mounted the ports CD I have and located sudo-1.6.8p12.tar.gz in
the distfiles directory.  I copied it over into the /usr/ports/sudo
directory, gunzipped it, and then untarred it.

I then made sure I was in the directory containing sudo.c and all its
attendent other files and tried the above "make install clean".
Unfortunately it was a no-go.  Resultant message I received was:

 "make: Don't know how to make install.  Stop"

Obviously I've done something wrong here ... misstepped or tried to do
the impossible, huh? LOL! Perhaps, sudo can only be installed via the
pkg-add route per your mention below? I invoked sysinstall, but didn't
see right away anything clearly indicating the "path to take" in
resolving my dilemma. I'll keep reading and trying and may be stumble
across the proper way to accomplish this, but all the while monitoring
this email list for further enlightenment.

Then again, may be I should just do a complete new install and select
"Yes" to installing the Ports collection at that time, huh?  Nah,
one has to mess up to learn!  And trust me, I've learned quite a bit
by reading yours and others comments and suggestions.  Thank for all
of you being so willing to share your knowledge.

Thanks in advance.

P.S.  Please advise what the proper mode of responding is in terms of
replying.  I did a "reply all" (to both Jeff and the list) for my
first submission.  However, perhaps I should of only replied to the
list to eliminate unnecessary traffic.



JR> ($ stands for the prompt, as you probably know); make reads the Makefile,
JR> and according to instructions in it, downloads the sources and compiles
JR> them; make install and make clean (given here in shorthand) respectively
JR> install the compiled port and clean up after make.

JR> The alternative way to install software is from packages, which are
JR> pre-compiled ports. You can use sysinstall to install them, or pkg_add from
JR> the commandline. Disc2 mostly contains some of these packages (others are on
JR> Disc1).




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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Duane Hill
On Tuesday, September 12, 2006 at 12:03:47 PM, Jeff confabulated:

> On 12/09/06, Duane Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 12, 2006 at 11:29:31 AM, Jeff confabulated:
>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The base system doesn't include X Windows.
>> >> _
>>
>>
>> > Right, I was thinking of NetBSD. X Window System is a FreeBSD port (so
>> it
>> > must be installed as a package from sysinstall).
>>
>> Shouldn't you also be able to:
>>
>>   cd /usr/ports/x11; make install clean
>>
>> --

> That sentence was intended not to mean "you have to install XWS as a package
> from sysinstall" but "It must be the case that sysinstall installs it as a
> package built from ports".

I  wasn't  for  sure  as I don't install many things using sysinstall.
Thanks for clarifying.

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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread RW
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 12:29, Jeff Rollin wrote:
> > The base system doesn't include X Windows.
> > _
>
> Right, I was thinking of NetBSD. X Window System is a FreeBSD port (so it
> must be installed as a package from sysinstall).

That's actually my biggest problem with sysinstall, that it's standard 
installation mixes-up base system options and package options. I only use 
sysinstall once in a blue moon, and I find that  "Choose Distributions" menu, 
baffling - even though I know what I want installed.
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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Jeff Rollin

On 12/09/06, Duane Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Tuesday, September 12, 2006 at 11:29:31 AM, Jeff confabulated:

>>
>>
>> The base system doesn't include X Windows.
>> _


> Right, I was thinking of NetBSD. X Window System is a FreeBSD port (so
it
> must be installed as a package from sysinstall).

Shouldn't you also be able to:

  cd /usr/ports/x11; make install clean

--



That sentence was intended not to mean "you have to install XWS as a package
from sysinstall" but "It must be the case that sysinstall installs it as a
package built from ports".

Jeff Rollin
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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Duane Hill
On Tuesday, September 12, 2006 at 11:29:31 AM, Jeff confabulated:

>>
>>
>> The base system doesn't include X Windows.
>> _


> Right, I was thinking of NetBSD. X Window System is a FreeBSD port (so it
> must be installed as a package from sysinstall).

Shouldn't you also be able to:

  cd /usr/ports/x11; make install clean

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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Jeff Rollin



The base system doesn't include X Windows.
_



Right, I was thinking of NetBSD. X Window System is a FreeBSD port (so it
must be installed as a package from sysinstall).

Jeff Rollin
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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread RW
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 11:41, Jeff Rollin wrote:
> To take your last question first: The ports collection allows you to
> install software from source that does not come as part of the base
> distribution - that equates, more or less, to stuff that on FreeBSD
> installs itself to directories in / and /usr. The base distribution
> includes stuff like the X Window System, but not KDE, Firefox or MH, the
> mail handler. 

The base system doesn't include X Windows.
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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Jeff Rollin

On 12/09/06, Arindam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I am a Linux user and have been recently trying to shift to FreeBSD. I
got hold of a couple of FreeBSD CD ISOs (version 6.1) - their names
being 6.1-RELEASE-i386-discX.iso, X being 1 and 2.

I did my installation with the Disc1 alone. I did not need Disc2. What
is the purpose of Disc2 and what can I do with it.

I chose not to install the ports collection because as of now, I do
not have access to Internet in my home-network and it would take a
little while before I can set it up for browsing. Does Disc2 contain
some of the ports collection?

Finally, what is the ports collection?



To take your last question first: The ports collection allows you to install
software from source that does not come as part of the base distribution -
that equates, more or less, to stuff that on FreeBSD installs itself to
directories in / and /usr. The base distribution includes stuff like the X
Window System, but not KDE, Firefox or MH, the mail handler. These latter
three are available as ports, which when compiled go into /usr/local by
default on FreeBSD.

The FreeBSD installation program asks if you want "to install the ports
collection," but what it actually does is install a bunch of directories
(under /usr/ports) that you can use to browse what's available in the ports
collection. For example, to download a port, say, Firefox compiled for use
with the Linux compatibility layer, go into /usr/ports/linux/linux-firefox
and type:

$ make install clean

(note you need to have Linux compatibility already installed and turned on
to make this work).

($ stands for the prompt, as you probably know); make reads the Makefile,
and according to instructions in it, downloads the sources and compiles
them; make install and make clean (given here in shorthand) respectively
install the compiled port and clean up after make.

The alternative way to install software is from packages, which are
pre-compiled ports. You can use sysinstall to install them, or pkg_add from
the commandline. Disc2 mostly contains some of these packages (others are on
Disc1).

Cheers



You're welcome!

Jeff.
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The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Arindam

I am a Linux user and have been recently trying to shift to FreeBSD. I
got hold of a couple of FreeBSD CD ISOs (version 6.1) - their names
being 6.1-RELEASE-i386-discX.iso, X being 1 and 2.

I did my installation with the Disc1 alone. I did not need Disc2. What
is the purpose of Disc2 and what can I do with it.

I chose not to install the ports collection because as of now, I do
not have access to Internet in my home-network and it would take a
little while before I can set it up for browsing. Does Disc2 contain
some of the ports collection?

Finally, what is the ports collection?

Cheers!
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[PARTIAL SOLUTION] Re: Trouble building abiword in the Ports Collection

2006-09-02 Thread Perry Hutchison
> > # pkgdb -F
> > --->  Checking the package registry database
> > 
> > [Updating the pkgdb  in /var/db/pkg ...
> > /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db: unexpected file type or format -- Invalid
> > argument; rebuild needed] [Rebuilding the pkgdb  in
> > /var/db/pkg ... /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db: unexpected file type or format --
> > Invalid argument: Cannot update the pkgdb!]: Cannot update the pkgdb!]
> 
> OK, navigate to the /var/db/pkg directory and either delete or rename
> the 'pkg.db' file. Then run:
> 
>   pkgdb -aFfuv
> 
> Assuming that works, resume with the rest of the directions I gave you
> previously.

That enabled the portupgrade to succeed, but abiword still fails.
I've sent the logs to freebsd-gnome.
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Re: Trouble building abiword in the Ports Collection

2006-09-01 Thread Gerard Seibert
Perry Hutchison wrote:

> # pkgdb -aFfuv
> --->  Updating the pkgdb
> [Rebuilding the pkgdb  in /var/db/pkg ...
> /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db: unexpected file type or format -- Invalid
> argument: Cannot update the pkgdb!]
> 
> > If it fails, you will have to run: pkgdb -F to fix them manually.
> 
> That doesn't work either :(
> 
> # pkgdb -F
> --->  Checking the package registry database
> 
> [Updating the pkgdb  in /var/db/pkg ...
> /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db: unexpected file type or format -- Invalid
> argument; rebuild needed] [Rebuilding the pkgdb  in
> /var/db/pkg ... /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db: unexpected file type or format --
> Invalid argument: Cannot update the pkgdb!]: Cannot update the pkgdb!]

OK, navigate to the /var/db/pkg directory and either delete or rename
the 'pkg.db' file. Then run:

  pkgdb -aFfuv

Assuming that works, resume with the rest of the directions I gave you
previously.


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Re: Trouble building abiword in the Ports Collection

2006-09-01 Thread Perry Hutchison
> > * Reran 'portupgrade -a' ... This time it complains about the
> >   pkgdb.
> >   ? Now what?  Is it time to "rm -rf /usr/ports /var/db/pkg"
> > and start completely over (and if so, what should I do
> > differently this time)?
> 
> Try this. Run everything as root.
> 
>   pkgdb -aFfuv
> 
> That should fix most if not all problems.

No such luck.  It still complains about the file format:

# pkgdb -aFfuv
--->  Updating the pkgdb
[Rebuilding the pkgdb  in /var/db/pkg ... 
/var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db: unexpected file type or format -- Invalid argument: 
Cannot update the pkgdb!]

> If it fails, you will have to run: pkgdb -F to fix them manually.

That doesn't work either :(

# pkgdb -F
--->  Checking the package registry database

[Updating the pkgdb  in /var/db/pkg ... /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db: 
unexpected file type or format -- Invalid argument; rebuild needed] [Rebuilding 
the pkgdb  in /var/db/pkg ... /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db: 
unexpected file type or format -- Invalid argument: Cannot update the pkgdb!]: 
Cannot update the pkgdb!]
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Re: Trouble building abiword in the Ports Collection

2006-09-01 Thread Gerard Seibert
Perry Hutchison wrote:

> What I have done:
> * Installed 6.1, including the Ports Collection, from CD.
> * Ran portsnap fetch.
> * Attempted portsnap update.
>   ? It sez this only works after an extract.  What is the point of
> installing the collection from CD if it has to be completely
> reinstalled from a download anyway?
> * Ran portsnap extract.
> * Built richtext, apparently successfully.
> * Attempted to build abiword.  It complained about a glibc version
>   problem, and said to run gnomelogalyzer.sh.  gnomelogalyzer.sh
>   found nothing specific, but said to run 'portupgrade -a' on general
>   principles.
>   ? Why should this be needed?  Shouldn't a freshly-downloaded
> portsnap already be up to date?
> * Attempted 'portupgrade -a'.  It ran for several hours, fetching
>   and building a huge amount of stuff (most of which I don't think
>   I want), and pausing several times for answers to imponderable
>   configuration questions, before eventually failing.
>   ? Shouldn't those configuration screens have a "help" function, for
> those of us who have no clue what some of the options amount to?
> * Reran 'portupgrade -a' to get a smaller logfile, showing only the
>   errors (since presumably the successful builds won't be redone).
>   This time it complains about the pkgdb.
>   ? Now what?  Is it time to "rm -rf /usr/ports /var/db/pkg" and
> start completely over (and if so, what should I do differently
> this time)?

Try this. Run everything as root.

  pkgdb -aFfuv

That should fix most if not all problems. If it fails, you will have to
run: pkgdb -F to fix them manually.

If you have 'portupgrade' you should also have portsclean. Try running
this to clean up any crud left from you old builds.

  portsclean -CDDLP

Now run: portsnap fetch && portsnap update

Now you can run the portupgrade command. You can probably run it like
this:
  portupgrade -aFRr

That should cover all of your bases. Personally I prefer 'portmanager'
but each to his own.

Good luck!


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Trouble building abiword in the Ports Collection

2006-09-01 Thread Perry Hutchison
What I have done:
* Installed 6.1, including the Ports Collection, from CD.
* Ran portsnap fetch.
* Attempted portsnap update.
  ? It sez this only works after an extract.  What is the point of
installing the collection from CD if it has to be completely
reinstalled from a download anyway?
* Ran portsnap extract.
* Built richtext, apparently successfully.
* Attempted to build abiword.  It complained about a glibc version
  problem, and said to run gnomelogalyzer.sh.  gnomelogalyzer.sh
  found nothing specific, but said to run 'portupgrade -a' on general
  principles.
  ? Why should this be needed?  Shouldn't a freshly-downloaded
portsnap already be up to date?
* Attempted 'portupgrade -a'.  It ran for several hours, fetching
  and building a huge amount of stuff (most of which I don't think
  I want), and pausing several times for answers to imponderable
  configuration questions, before eventually failing.
  ? Shouldn't those configuration screens have a "help" function, for
those of us who have no clue what some of the options amount to?
* Reran 'portupgrade -a' to get a smaller logfile, showing only the
  errors (since presumably the successful builds won't be redone).
  This time it complains about the pkgdb.
  ? Now what?  Is it time to "rm -rf /usr/ports /var/db/pkg" and
start completely over (and if so, what should I do differently
this time)?

=== logfile from second 'portupgrade -a' ===

# date ; portupgrade -a ; date
Fri Sep  1 10:34:20 PDT 2006
[Updating the pkgdb  in /var/db/pkg ... /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db: 
unexpected file type or format -- Invalid argument; rebuild needed] [Rebuilding 
the pkgdb  in /var/db/pkg ... [Updating the pkgdb 
 in /var/db/pkg ... /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db: unexpected file 
type or format -- Invalid argument; rebuild needed] [Rebuilding the pkgdb 
 in /var/db/pkg ... /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db: unexpected file 
type or format -- Invalid argument: Cannot update the pkgdb!]: Cannot update 
the pkgdb!]
Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb -aFQ
Fri Sep  1 10:34:24 PDT 2006
# ls -l /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  5963776 Sep  1 01:42 /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
# file /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
/var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db: Berkeley DB 1.85/1.86 (Btree, version 3, native 
byte-order)
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Re: Is gd library in the ports collection.

2006-02-28 Thread James Long
> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:19:35 -0500
> From: "fbsd_user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Is gd library in the  ports collection.
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG" 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> I have reviewed the ports list for a port called gd and could 
> not tell from the names if any were the gd library 
> talked about here. http://www.boutell.com/gd/
> 
> Can any one point me to the correct port name if its really 
> in the ports collection.

A quick run of 

cd /usr/ports && make search key=gd- | less

would have turned up:

Port:   gd-2.0.33_3,1
Path:   /usr/ports/graphics/gd
Info:   A graphics library for fast creation of images
Maint:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
B-deps: freetype2-2.1.10_1 jpeg-6b_3 pkgconfig-0.19 png-1.2.8_2
R-deps: freetype2-2.1.10_1 jpeg-6b_3 pkgconfig-0.19 png-1.2.8_2
WWW:http://www.boutell.com/gd/



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Re: Is gd library in the ports collection.

2006-02-28 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Feb 28), fbsd_user said:
> I have reviewed the ports list for a port called gd and could 
> not tell from the names if any were the gd library 
> talked about here. http://www.boutell.com/gd/
> 
> Can any one point me to the correct port name if its really 
> in the ports collection.

graphics/gd

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Re: Is gd library in the ports collection.

2006-02-28 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-02-28 10:19, fbsd_user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have reviewed the ports list for a port called gd and could
> not tell from the names if any were the gd library
> talked about here. http://www.boutell.com/gd/
>
> Can any one point me to the correct port name if its really
> in the ports collection.

graphics/gd/pkg-descr ==>

% gd is a graphics library. It allows your code to quickly draw images
% complete with lines, arcs, text, multiple colors, cut and paste from
% other images, and flood fills, and write out the result as a PNG, GIF
% or JPEG file. This is particularly useful in World Wide Web applications,
% where PNG, GIF and JPEG are three of the formats accepted for inline
% images by most browsers.
%
% gd does  not provide for every possible desirable graphics operation,
% but version 2.0 does include most frequently requested features,
% including both truecolor and palette images, resampling (smooth
% resizing of truecolor images) and so forth.
%
% WWW: http://www.boutell.com/gd/
%
% - Alex Dupre
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Is gd library in the ports collection.

2006-02-28 Thread fbsd_user
I have reviewed the ports list for a port called gd and could 
not tell from the names if any were the gd library 
talked about here. http://www.boutell.com/gd/

Can any one point me to the correct port name if its really 
in the ports collection.
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Ports collection via portupgrade

2006-01-30 Thread Duane Whitty
Hi everyone,

I just wanted to pass on how I've had so 
much success using portupgrade to 
install new software under FreeBSD 6.0

I build my previous installations into 
packages and backup them up to the 
location specified by 
PKG_TMPDIR=/usr/local/temp/ports_pkgs.bak 
(which I never remember but have it set 
in root's shell env. anyway)

I just installed the native Flash plugin 
for Mozilla which works great.

#portupgrade -bNr flashplugin-mozilla

I love portupgrade's "globbing".  Can't 
use it blindly but almost.

I'd love to hear what other users are 
having good success with for this or 
other tasks.

Best Regards,

--Duane Whitty

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Re: Trouble upgrading ports collection

2005-12-03 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Saturday 03 December 2005 14:03, edward wrote:
> Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> > It does help, the linux-sun-jdk14 port is flagging its self as ignore
> > because you don't have J2SE SDK in distfiles.  You'll have to build
> > java/linux-sun-jdk14 manually and jump through the Sun hoops to get the
> > distfiles, just follow the instructions that pop up when you make it.
> >
> > In this status report it looks like the kde ports updated successfully,
> > so your just down to the java port correct? (java/linux-sun-jdk14)
> >
> > The compat3x-i386-5.0.20020925 missing can be ignored, one of the java
> > build dependencies must have this listed as a dependency but java is
> > a weird animal, it's build dependencies can be missing and it will still
> > build so I would just ignore that for now.
> >
> > -Mike
>
> I did the following :
> cd /usr/ports/java/linux-sun-jdk14
> make install
>
> I was then instructed to download j2sdk-1_4_2_10-linux-i586.bin from
> http://javashoplm.sun.com
>
> Placed the file in /usr/ports/distfiles
>
> Ran make install again
>
> I was instructed to remove the previous version of j2sdk and install the
> new version via a make deinstall / make reinstall sequence
>
> All of my ports are now up to date and everything seems to work fine.
> Thanks Mike, I owe you one :-)
> Edward

Your welcome :)

-Mike
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Re: Trouble upgrading ports collection

2005-12-03 Thread edward



Michael C. Shultz wrote:


It does help, the linux-sun-jdk14 port is flagging its self as ignore because 
you don't have J2SE SDK in distfiles.  You'll have to build 
java/linux-sun-jdk14 manually and jump through the Sun hoops to get the 
distfiles, just follow the instructions that pop up when you make it.


In this status report it looks like the kde ports updated successfully, so 
your just down to the java port correct? (java/linux-sun-jdk14)


The compat3x-i386-5.0.20020925 missing can be ignored, one of the java
build dependencies must have this listed as a dependency but java is
a weird animal, it's build dependencies can be missing and it will still build
so I would just ignore that for now.

-Mike



I did the following :
cd /usr/ports/java/linux-sun-jdk14
make install

I was then instructed to download j2sdk-1_4_2_10-linux-i586.bin from 
http://javashoplm.sun.com


Placed the file in /usr/ports/distfiles

Ran make install again

I was instructed to remove the previous version of j2sdk and install the 
new version via a make deinstall / make reinstall sequence


All of my ports are now up to date and everything seems to work fine.
Thanks Mike, I owe you one :-)
Edward

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Re: Trouble upgrading ports collection

2005-12-03 Thread Michael C. Shultz
> skipping linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.08_1 /java/linux-sun-jdk14 marked IGNORE
> reason: port marked IGNORE
> skipping compat3x-i386-5.0.20020925 /misc/compat3x marked IGNORE reason:
> port marked FORBIDDEN
> 
> portmanager 0.3.8_2 INFO: finished with some ports not updated  if --log
> was used see /var/log/portmanager.log
> 
>
> I also did : pkg_delete -f jre-1.1.8
>
> I have found no reference to linux-sun-jdk in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf
> or in
> /usr/local/etc/portmanager/pm-020.conf
>
> Yet /java/linux-sun-jdk14 is marked as IGNORE in the portmanager output,
> as you can see above.  Hope this can help.
> Edward

It does help, the linux-sun-jdk14 port is flagging its self as ignore because 
you don't have J2SE SDK in distfiles.  You'll have to build 
java/linux-sun-jdk14 manually and jump through the Sun hoops to get the 
distfiles, just follow the instructions that pop up when you make it.

In this status report it looks like the kde ports updated successfully, so 
your just down to the java port correct? (java/linux-sun-jdk14)

The compat3x-i386-5.0.20020925 missing can be ignored, one of the java
build dependencies must have this listed as a dependency but java is
a weird animal, it's build dependencies can be missing and it will still build
so I would just ignore that for now.

-Mike



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Re: Trouble upgrading ports collection

2005-12-03 Thread edward



Michael C. Shultz wrote:


First of all I just noticed your running portmanager ver 0.3.8_2,
the current version is 0.3.9_5, wish I caught that earlier.

For now try this:

pkg_delete -f jre-1.1.8

check in /usr/local/etc/pkpkgtools.conf 
and /usr/local/etc/portmanager/pm-020.conf

and see if you have java/linux-sun-jdk14
marked as ignore, if so undo that.

The log isn't very complete in this version of portmanager
so send the output of the status screen also like you did the last
time after running portmanager -u -l -p so I can see what is up
with the kde ports.  Don't update the ports tree just yet or you
will have to do the manual deinstall/reinstall of nvidia again, better
we clean out the old crud like compat3x-i386-5.0.20020925 and
things that depend on it first.



Hi Mike,

The output portmanager -u -l -p of is :


 Port Status Report

1 have:expat-1.95.8_3  /textproc/expat2 
   CURRENT
2 have:libtool-1.5.20  /devel/libtool15 
   CURRENT
3 have:pkgconfig-0.20  /devel/pkgconfig 
   CURRENT
4 have:gmake-3.80_2/devel/gmake 
   CURRENT
5 have:gettext-0.14.5  /devel/gettext 
   CURRENT
6 have:libiconv-1.9.2_1/converters/libiconv 
   CURRENT
7 have:imake-6.8.2 /devel/imake-6 
   CURRENT
8 have:perl-5.8.7  /lang/perl5.8 
   CURRENT
9 have:bison-1.75_2,1  /devel/bison 
   CURRENT
00010 have:m4-1.4.4/devel/m4 
   CURRENT
00011 have:libXft-2.1.7/x11-fonts/libXft 
   CURRENT
00012 have:fontconfig-2.3.2,1  /x11-fonts/fontconfig 
   CURRENT
00013 have:xorg-libraries-6.8.2/x11/xorg-libraries 
   CURRENT
00014 have:freetype2-2.1.10_1  /print/freetype2 
   CURRENT
00015 have:ruby18-bdb1-0.2.2   /databases/ruby-bdb1 
   CURRENT
00016 have:ruby-1.8.2_5,1  /lang/ruby18 
   CURRENT
00017 have:openldap-client-2.2.29  /net/openldap22-client 
   CURRENT
00018 have:libvorbis-1.1.1,3   /audio/libvorbis 
   CURRENT
00019 have:libogg-1.1.2_1,3/audio/libogg 
   CURRENT
00020 have:ezm3-1.2/lang/ezm3 
   CURRENT
00021 have:cvsup-16.1h_2   /net/cvsup 
   CURRENT
00022 have:xorg-vfbserver-6.8.2 
/x11-servers/xorg-vfbserver CURRENT
00023 have:xorg-server-6.8.2_6 /x11-servers/xorg-server 
   CURRENT
00024 have:portmanager-0.3.8_2 /sysutils/portmanager 
   CURRENT
00025 have:xorg-fonts-encodings-6.8.2 
/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-encodings CURRENT
00026 have:xorg-clients-6.8.2_1/x11/xorg-clients 
   CURRENT
00027 have:xterm-206_1 /x11/xterm 
   CURRENT
00028 have:png-1.2.8_2 /graphics/png 
   CURRENT
00029 have:xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.8.2 
/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps   CURRENT
00030 have:xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.8.2 
/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-cyrillic  CURRENT
00031 have:xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.8.2 
/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-75dpi CURRENT
00032 have:xorg-nestserver-6.8.2 
/x11-servers/xorg-nestserverCURRENT
00033 have:xorg-fontserver-6.8.2 
/x11-servers/xorg-fontserverCURRENT
00034 have:xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.8.2 
/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-100dpiCURRENT
00035 have:xorg-fonts-type1-6.8.2 
/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-type1 CURRENT
00036 have:xorg-documents-6.8.2/x11/xorg-documents 
   CURRENT
00037 have:p5-XML-Parser-2.34_1/textproc/p5-XML-Parser 
   CURRENT
00038 have:dri-6.2.1,2 /graphics/dri 
   CURRENT
00039 have:xorg-manpages-6.8.2 /x11/xorg-manpages 
   CURRENT
00040 have:bitstream-vera-1.10_2   /x11-fonts/bitstream-vera 
  CURRENT
00041 have:xorg-fonts-truetype-6.8.2 
/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-truetype  CURRENT
00042 have:jpeg-6b_3   /graphics/jpeg 
   CURRENT
00043 have:lcms-1.14,1 /graphics/lcms 
   CURRENT
00044 have:samba-libsmbclient-3.0.20b_2/net/samba-libsmbclient 
   CURRENT
00045 have:p5-PathTools-3.14   /devel/p5-PathTools 
   CURRENT
00046 have:p5-Scalar-List-Utils-1.17,1 
/lang/p5-Scalar-List-Utils  CURRENT
00047 have:libxml2-2.6.22  /textproc/libxml2 
   CURRENT
00048 have:libart_lgpl2-2.3.17 /graphics/libart_lgpl2 
   

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