Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
You go boy! If you are using Mailman you shouldn't have any problems dealing with the offender(s). On 14/12/2013 23:44, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello, List: The spam that has been sent to this list is appalling. I am disgusted, like all of you. This was a clear, targeted attack against us, and the person who did this will be held responsible. The person responsible seems to have evaded moderation and will continue to do so until I figure this out. I apologize for this, please do not unsubscribe. I will figure it out. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. . --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Ios game design was: Re: The future of mobile accessible gaming, was: : mac versus windows
Hi Che. Appologies for the name mess up, I do actually know how your name is spealt that was just a slip of the fingers. Interestingly enough, Scansoft Daniel actually pronounces it correctly as well. I could actually imagine a racing game like RR on Ios working extremely well. Since it already uses the analogue control method with the mouse and that is something which the Iphone with gyroscope is good at. For example, I can imagine you steering by moving the phone left and right and breaking by pulling the phone quickly backwards. Accellerating you could do with a swipe up the screen, and gear shifting might work with a swipe left and right, heck you could even jump by angling your phone upwards. There would be some complexity in where you placed other buttons on the touch screen for activating nitros etc, however you could always use the corners or left and right middle which are perfectly easy to find for anyone as Papasangre does. As to extra content purchiceable within an ap, well I personally see `it as soemthing that could be used in many sorts of games, not either.just Rpgs and strategies. In a racing game for example, Lets say you released an Ios racing game which initially came with 50 tracks for 10 usd. You could then sell packs of additional 20 tracks for 2.5 usd each, as well as selling say tournaments or other content. You could even make this an in game currency, say everytime the player won a race he/she got a race point. Your pack of extra tracks could cost 1000 race points, which you could buy within the ap for $2.5, or earn by racing a lot. Of course, if used badly this system can be down right frustrating. I find it rather irritating for example to find a game where basically your forced to pay to improve, especially where there is extensive pvp and the paying players will always do in non payng players without a chance. Say an rpg where the default weapons in the game do a max of 10 damage, but where you need to donate for the donator currency to get weapons of 20 or 30 damage. Then again as a game like Solara shows the system can actually work rather nicely when done right. I particularly like it as a way to have basically extra levels, stages or things to do in the game released progressively, indeed Star traders we have been discussing has a mode like this. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
Hello; My name is Shane Davidson, owner of the company that provides hosting services for both the Audyssey and USAGames interactive websites. My staff became aware both yesterday and early this morning of some very despicable behavior by one member, (or x-member, this is yet to be determined). This individual was posting hateful, difamitory, and sexually harassing messages, posing as other valid and upstanding list members who have been apart of the blind gaming community for years as gamers, developers and as interested parties. We take this very seriously, and on behalf of my company, and this lists management, I extend my most heartfelt apologies to each and every one of you. I have requested, and obtained the cooperation of the underlying service provider that was providing this individuals vehicle to become a royal pain, Linode LLC. Who have assured me that they are taking steps to stop this behavior immediately. I have also opened a ticket on behalf of Thomas Ward, who owns both Audyssey and USAGames interactive, in our own support system so we can more easily track this issue. We are working diligently to bring this to an end, and please don't leave over this. Thank you for your patience and time. Sincerely; Shane Davidson --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
Hello. Thanks for the appologgy. While I won't deny that seeing the huge volume of insulting and s/xually explicit mesages, (especially those supposedly from myself), was not pleasant, I do know this was obviously one idiot, and I am glad steps are being taken to stop them from doing such again and restrict their general internet access in the future. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Shane Davidson sh...@shaned.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 AM Subject: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. Hello; My name is Shane Davidson, owner of the company that provides hosting services for both the Audyssey and USAGames interactive websites. My staff became aware both yesterday and early this morning of some very despicable behavior by one member, (or x-member, this is yet to be determined). This individual was posting hateful, difamitory, and sexually harassing messages, posing as other valid and upstanding list members who have been apart of the blind gaming community for years as gamers, developers and as interested parties. We take this very seriously, and on behalf of my company, and this lists management, I extend my most heartfelt apologies to each and every one of you. I have requested, and obtained the cooperation of the underlying service provider that was providing this individuals vehicle to become a royal pain, Linode LLC. Who have assured me that they are taking steps to stop this behavior immediately. I have also opened a ticket on behalf of Thomas Ward, who owns both Audyssey and USAGames interactive, in our own support system so we can more easily track this issue. We are working diligently to bring this to an end, and please don't leave over this. Thank you for your patience and time. Sincerely; Shane Davidson --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games We Like to Play [HAIRY BUTTHOLE INCLUDED]
I see somebody's at it again, posting in my name. Oh boy. Check out my games at www.ThePionEar.net and my music, and that of my band, at www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html . Also, check out, The Believer and Skeptic Show, at iTunes! If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook, (KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com . - Original Message - From: Ken Downey kenwdow...@thepionear.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 6:19 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Games We Like to Play [HAIRY BUTTHOLE INCLUDED] HAIRY BUTTHOLE HAIRY BUTTHOLE HAIRY BUTTHOLE! THOMAS WARD THINKS HE CAN MOD THE LIST BUT I AM TOO SMART FOR HIM! IF YOU OPENED THIS EMAIL, YOU WILL NOW HAVE A TROJAN! HAHAHAH! GOOD LUCK GETTING YOUR FREE SHITTY ANTI MALWARE SOFTWARE TO DETECT THIS SHIT! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] WEDHESDAY WEBHESDAY ukkjyvcdmf
I keep having the samemessage from this stupid topic over 100 times in fact, very spammy. -Original Message- From: Philip Bennefall Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 11:23 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] WEDHESDAY WEBHESDAY ukkjyvcdmf BGT SUCKS FUCK YOU RON AND TOMMY OF AUDYSSEY! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
The freakiest part for me was that the very first message I saw was supposedly from me. For a second or two, I actually thought I had some kind of virus it freaked me out… Good is the worst enemy of best. Ken On Dec 15, 2013, at 4:27 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hello. Thanks for the appologgy. While I won't deny that seeing the huge volume of insulting and s/xually explicit mesages, (especially those supposedly from myself), was not pleasant, I do know this was obviously one idiot, and I am glad steps are being taken to stop them from doing such again and restrict their general internet access in the future. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Shane Davidson sh...@shaned.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 AM Subject: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. Hello; My name is Shane Davidson, owner of the company that provides hosting services for both the Audyssey and USAGames interactive websites. My staff became aware both yesterday and early this morning of some very despicable behavior by one member, (or x-member, this is yet to be determined). This individual was posting hateful, difamitory, and sexually harassing messages, posing as other valid and upstanding list members who have been apart of the blind gaming community for years as gamers, developers and as interested parties. We take this very seriously, and on behalf of my company, and this lists management, I extend my most heartfelt apologies to each and every one of you. I have requested, and obtained the cooperation of the underlying service provider that was providing this individuals vehicle to become a royal pain, Linode LLC. Who have assured me that they are taking steps to stop this behavior immediately. I have also opened a ticket on behalf of Thomas Ward, who owns both Audyssey and USAGames interactive, in our own support system so we can more easily track this issue. We are working diligently to bring this to an end, and please don't leave over this. Thank you for your patience and time. Sincerely; Shane Davidson --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
So did i,it really scared me especially as the message itself was very badly written incontent. -Original Message- From: Kenneth Downey Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:15 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. The freakiest part for me was that the very first message I saw was supposedly from me. For a second or two, I actually thought I had some kind of virus it freaked me out… Good is the worst enemy of best. Ken On Dec 15, 2013, at 4:27 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hello. Thanks for the appologgy. While I won't deny that seeing the huge volume of insulting and s/xually explicit mesages, (especially those supposedly from myself), was not pleasant, I do know this was obviously one idiot, and I am glad steps are being taken to stop them from doing such again and restrict their general internet access in the future. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Shane Davidson sh...@shaned.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 AM Subject: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. Hello; My name is Shane Davidson, owner of the company that provides hosting services for both the Audyssey and USAGames interactive websites. My staff became aware both yesterday and early this morning of some very despicable behavior by one member, (or x-member, this is yet to be determined). This individual was posting hateful, difamitory, and sexually harassing messages, posing as other valid and upstanding list members who have been apart of the blind gaming community for years as gamers, developers and as interested parties. We take this very seriously, and on behalf of my company, and this lists management, I extend my most heartfelt apologies to each and every one of you. I have requested, and obtained the cooperation of the underlying service provider that was providing this individuals vehicle to become a royal pain, Linode LLC. Who have assured me that they are taking steps to stop this behavior immediately. I have also opened a ticket on behalf of Thomas Ward, who owns both Audyssey and USAGames interactive, in our own support system so we can more easily track this issue. We are working diligently to bring this to an end, and please don't leave over this. Thank you for your patience and time. Sincerely; Shane Davidson --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] business games
Hello everyone, Anyone knows any online games where i can build a company? I only know kapilands and kapiregnum. are there any other games? Matteo. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Howdy Folks!
Please, stop that! thanks much. Angela from Italy Il 14/12/2013 22:41, Cara Quinn ha scritto: Audysseyers, As a job, I model in the nude. This is because I cannot code good things. But, I am a good voice actress when it comes to being pounded with a cock in the vagina and the ass. I do this quite well. USA Games and L-Works have created game for gay blinds, but not straight ones. So I am partnering up with Che Martin, to create Cara's Prostitute Adventures! You get to fuck me on the computer! It will be free and open source. Smiles, Cara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Tantissime idee regalo a prezzi competitivi, trova l'dea giusta per Natale Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=13203d=15-12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] business games
Hi. Well there are a couple listed over on the games to play online page at www.whitestick.co.uk. These including the game perfect competition, and the scifi business mud Federation Ii, (set in a sf universe but very much economics based). Indeed, in terms of business it's also worth remembering that several rpgs have fairly deep business systems. Torn city for example has a full stock market, detailed company employment and ownership system, real estate developement and a lot more, indeed there are players who don't do any of the fighting side of the game but just play for the business. Alien adoption agency even makes this a full time thing, though since the game is being reconstructed after being off line for a significantly long period I don't know how much of the higher finance made it back into the game. heck, even core exiles has some fairly complex management and economics, though it's not primarily a business type game. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] business games
and even starmule and trucker too. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] business games Hi. Well there are a couple listed over on the games to play online page at www.whitestick.co.uk. These including the game perfect competition, and the scifi business mud Federation Ii, (set in a sf universe but very much economics based). Indeed, in terms of business it's also worth remembering that several rpgs have fairly deep business systems. Torn city for example has a full stock market, detailed company employment and ownership system, real estate developement and a lot more, indeed there are players who don't do any of the fighting side of the game but just play for the business. Alien adoption agency even makes this a full time thing, though since the game is being reconstructed after being off line for a significantly long period I don't know how much of the higher finance made it back into the game. heck, even core exiles has some fairly complex management and economics, though it's not primarily a business type game. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] business games
Well darren to be honest I never really got into any of the reset games since most of them are things like Ogam that were heavily based on pvp which I just don't find interesting. The only game I ever fancied that did appear interesting and have resets was waring factions, but I've never been able to make head nor tale out of that one, not between the complexity of the game and the complexity of the interface, though it is likely i should possibly give it another try at some point. Space oddesy doesn't exactly have resets so much as redistributions of resources as I said, though I can understand your frustration with that one. At the moment though I'm pretty heavily on a major core exiles dig with no end in site, indeed I just got my first settlement in the game. Indeed Ce has absolutely zero resets either which is an advantage. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] business games
Indeed Lisa, in fact you mentioning truckers reminded me of trucking sim which can also be found on whitestick's directory. There is then also Mississippi (though I wasn't as keen on that one, however I think this was specifically a request for information about online games. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] business games and even starmule and trucker too. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] business games Hi. Well there are a couple listed over on the games to play online page at www.whitestick.co.uk. These including the game perfect competition, and the scifi business mud Federation Ii, (set in a sf universe but very much economics based). Indeed, in terms of business it's also worth remembering that several rpgs have fairly deep business systems. Torn city for example has a full stock market, detailed company employment and ownership system, real estate developement and a lot more, indeed there are players who don't do any of the fighting side of the game but just play for the business. Alien adoption agency even makes this a full time thing, though since the game is being reconstructed after being off line for a significantly long period I don't know how much of the higher finance made it back into the game. heck, even core exiles has some fairly complex management and economics, though it's not primarily a business type game. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] business games
There's also Reign, but that's more like running a country, but basically the same thing. http://www.reign.ws Tyler Z On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:14:43 -, dark wrote: Indeed Lisa, in fact you mentioning truckers reminded me of trucking sim which can also be found on whitestick's directory. There is then also Mississippi (though I wasn't as keen on that one, however I think this was specifically a request for information about online games. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] business games and even starmule and trucker too. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] business games Hi. Well there are a couple listed over on the games to play online page at www.whitestick.co.uk. These including the game perfect competition, and the scifi business mud Federation Ii, (set in a sf universe but very much economics based). Indeed, in terms of business it's also worth remembering that several rpgs have fairly deep business systems. Torn city for example has a full stock market, detailed company employment and ownership system, real estate developement and a lot more, indeed there are players who don't do any of the fighting side of the game but just play for the business. Alien adoption agency even makes this a full time thing, though since the game is being reconstructed after being off line for a significantly long period I don't know how much of the higher finance made it back into the game. heck, even core exiles has some fairly complex management and economics, though it's not primarily a business type game. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Moderator: Please Ignore the Spam
Hi all, I know Shane has addressed this subject, but as list owner and moderator I thought I would stress this again. Sometime yesterday an individual posing as various upstanding list members sent a number of sexually explicit and demeaning posts to the list. If you get any of these messages please ignore them as my hosting provider is doing their level best to put an end to the spam messages. Let's not make it any worse by responding to them on list as it is not the list members we know and respect sending these messages. Thank you. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List gamers-ow...@audyssey.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] business games
Yes, I forgot about reign, although with the mnilitary attacks etc I'm not sure how much it'd count as business. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Tyler programmer...@comcast.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] business games There's also Reign, but that's more like running a country, but basically the same thing. http://www.reign.ws Tyler Z On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:14:43 -, dark wrote: Indeed Lisa, in fact you mentioning truckers reminded me of trucking sim which can also be found on whitestick's directory. There is then also Mississippi (though I wasn't as keen on that one, however I think this was specifically a request for information about online games. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] business games and even starmule and trucker too. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] business games Hi. Well there are a couple listed over on the games to play online page at www.whitestick.co.uk. These including the game perfect competition, and the scifi business mud Federation Ii, (set in a sf universe but very much economics based). Indeed, in terms of business it's also worth remembering that several rpgs have fairly deep business systems. Torn city for example has a full stock market, detailed company employment and ownership system, real estate developement and a lot more, indeed there are players who don't do any of the fighting side of the game but just play for the business. Alien adoption agency even makes this a full time thing, though since the game is being reconstructed after being off line for a significantly long period I don't know how much of the higher finance made it back into the game. heck, even core exiles has some fairly complex management and economics, though it's not primarily a business type game. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
Uh? I did not send this message, but someone sent this message for me. Talk about insane. Now the spammer is spoofing the moderator? On 12/14/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, List: The spam that has been sent to this list is appalling. I am disgusted, like all of you. This was a clear, targeted attack against us, and the person who did this will be held responsible. The person responsible seems to have evaded moderation and will continue to do so until I figure this out. I apologize for this, please do not unsubscribe. I will figure it out. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Oh dear, I never knew! As I said I use VS Pro because I have easy and legal access to it, and one of the first things I always do is set up an x86 and x64 cross-build. In fact, I'm almost tempted to go x64 exclusively. Not sure why Microsoft thinks VS Express is good for you. :) Davy -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 22:50 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question Hi Davy, Well, what I mentioned is a small sampling of things missing in the express edition. There are actually quite a number of things missing in VS Express that you get with VS Pro, and while I don't want to list them all here do to time constraints it is safe to say VS Express is very limited. One thing I find very aggravating is you can not change the target platform with VS Express. When you get it the only platform is Win32 projects for x86 processors. So as most machines now are x64 processors one should be able to specifically target those processors and platforms, but it is not an option in VS Express. At least not the version I use which is 2010. So I still have to use VS Pro 2008 as I don't have the finances to upgrade to a newer version of Visual Studio Pro right now. Cheers! On 12/14/13, Davy Kager m...@davykager.nl wrote: Fun that you should mention that, Thomas: as a student I have been legally using Visual Studio Professional free of charge for a few years now. I never realized how crippled the Express edetion can be. Apple is definitely doing a good job providing their IDE for free, to anyone. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Josh, Well, that is just it. I know a blind user can use the Mac without a monitor, but I also have a son who is sighted. I try to make sure anything I have can be used by my son and any other sighted users in my family just in case they want to use it. So if the Mac Mini was just for myself I might consider foregoing the monitor, but as I said I do have sighted family who may wish to use it so a monitor is a bit of a must for them. Cheers! On 12/14/13, Draconis i...@dracoent.com wrote: Hi Tom, Unless you have someone sighted planning on using the Mac mini also, you can use it perfectly well without a monitor. I did that for years. You can also buy adapters for many kinds of older desktop monitors, so if you already have a monitor hanging around, there’s a good chance it could be used with the mini. But purchasing a monitor is in no way a requirement for a VO users of a Mac mini. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Davy, That is hard to say, but I think VS Express is just another half-hearted attempt by Microsoft to compete with Mac and Linux. Microsoft knows if someone buys a Mac they can get and install XCode for free, and they are good to go. A Linux user can install various command line compilers and an IDE like Codeblocks or Eclipse and can develop as much as needed. Microsoft Windows up until 2005 had no free Microsoft IDE and compilers so they decided to release VS Express to try and attract amateur developers to the platform. At least that is how it seems to me. After all, I used VS Express to develop many projects in C# .NET and Visual Basic .NET and terms of an inexpensive IDE and compiler for .NET VS Express is useful if not as good as VS Pro. Its enough to get someone interested in .NET and writing some basic applications and games to be sure. However, for C++ Microsoft has gutted the IDE and compiler forcing someone to upgrade if they are a pro developer and need whatever it is that express doesn't have that they need. That's how Microsoft has set the hook and make developers pay. They give away just enough to let you build some basic apps and games, but sooner or later someone will run into a project where they need something the express versions do not have and have to pay the piper to update to a better version. Think of VS Express as a demo of VS Pro and you will get the logic behind it. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Davy Kager m...@davykager.nl wrote: Oh dear, I never knew! As I said I use VS Pro because I have easy and legal access to it, and one of the first things I always do is set up an x86 and x64 cross-build. In fact, I'm almost tempted to go x64 exclusively. Not sure why Microsoft thinks VS Express is good for you. :) Davy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What's going on here?
Hello Tommy, As you may already be aware some one has been spamming the Audyssey list faking real member addresses. The messages are not coming from Cara, Ken, Dark, Philip, or anyone else who has been a long standing member of this list with a good reputation. The hosting company and I are doing all that we can to track down the person who is doing all of this, and are hoping to put an end to it soon. Cheers! On 12/15/13, to...@sirinet.net to...@sirinet.net wrote: Hi! This need to stop right the way. It's getting annoying. I kept receiving the same email over and over again. I have over 50 emails like this already. The subject are. [Audyssey] WEDHESDAY WEBHESDAY gowzdbhmya and it's came from Gamers [gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]; on behalf of; Philip Bennefall [phi...@blastbay.com] Please stop this child a.cting --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT, Mac and More
Davy, Corona, as with other cross platform SDKs can also break accessibility. Just something to be aware of. Thanks, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Dec 14, 2013, at 4:42 AM, Davy Kager m...@davykager.nl wrote: There is always this too: http://coronalabs.com/ Of course the disadvantage is that you don't learn about the native platform in the way you would when going Objective-C. You may also not get the same low-level access (i.e. Accelerated framework, Audio Units) that you get using Objective-C. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 03:57 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT, Mac and More Hi Josh, Yes, you do need a Mac. Not sure if you're offering commentary on my note but if you are, davy mentioned purchasing a Mac and then the big money for the dev account so I was wondering if there might be some confusion here. If you have any other questions on Mac / iOS development, please don't hesitate to ask. :) -Happy to answer them… Have an awesome night! Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Dec 13, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Josh joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: you do need a mac to develop for IOS, right? using windows7 laptop On 12/13/2013 7:13 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Hi Davy, A question and a comment; When you say big bucks for a developer account, you are aware that this is $99 per year, not per month, yes? This translates to less than $8 per month, -less than $2 per week. Not sure of your budget but just want to make sure we're all on the same page here. :) To your point about not needing XCode when using C++, you do still need XCode to build for iOS / Mac, regardless of whether you use C++ or not. Hope this helps and hope you and yours are having a most lovely holiday season! Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Dec 13, 2013, at 8:30 AM, Davy Kager m...@davykager.nl wrote: Hi, All very interesting points you made. I tend to agree that C++ is awesome (in an IDE that isn't vendor-specific, with an opensource toolchain). I'd love to automate my build process on Linux and do nightlies for beta testers. My main reason for using Java is that I can't avoid using it in the future, on projects where I don't get to decide what language to use. I am interested in iOS development in the long run. I thought of concentrating on Windows for now, using OpenAL or XAudio2 with C++, and then combining a Mac and iOS project since both use Objective-C and OpenAL. The most prominent reason for not doing that is that I'm not comfortable buying a MacBook and spending big money on a developer account just yet, and XCode is really the way to go for Objective-C. Doing something in C++ would mostly remove the requirement for XCode, which is a good thing to me as I'd like to unify the development process as much as possible. Still, right now I'm leaning towards using Java since I already have a skeleton engine set up in that language and because it's so easy to debug code on the JVM. My only problem is with the ease of decompiling. There are solutions, most notably ahead-of-time compiling, but then you lose not only some advantages of the JVM, but also a huge heap of money. :) But then, I also remember how Thomas struggled to find the right language for MOTA and lost valuable time (I'm told there's still no final version 1 for that game?). Clearly you need to bite that bullet some day or be obscured in the fog of indecisiveness. Cheers, Davy -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Draconis Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 17:06 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT, Mac and More Chiming in on these cross-platform topics seems to be a common theme for me. LOL I have three points I’d like to make. First, ignoring Mac as a viable platform for blind gamers is a poor strategy. One year on, and Mac sales are still far exceeding Windows sales, even in comparison to back in the hay day of audio games, some 10 years ago or so. It isn’t just about raw user numbers, it is about demographics and the quality of those users. Which leads me to my second point. There is an old saying: “Lies, damn lies, and statistics.” This could not apply to anything as well as it does to the statement that Android is more popular than iOS overall. It is technically true that Android is
Re: [Audyssey] The future of mobile accessible gaming, was: : mac versus windows
Um, i must strongly disagree with Che’s point about the lack of replayability in IoS games. I replay Papa Sangre games and (lord help me) Soul Trapper a lot. Also, Papa sangre II has been very popular in the “mainstream” community as well. I think that in order to market accessible games, it’s best if they’re accessible to as many folks as possible. Teresa The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham On Dec 14, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi, This is where developing games for multiple types of people comes into play here I think. Look at the various audio games that there are out there on IOS for example? How many of them were developed specifically for blind people yet sighted people play them? Take the blindness lable away and simply make them accessible then you have your target audience. Freak is an example of this. the idea isn't to simply create games for blind people specifically but to create games for all that blind people can play. This to me is where the accessible markets fall flat because the developers are not doing this. With windows, take smugglers for example. The developer was approached, he agreed and made it accessible. There you go. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Che Martin Sent: 14 December 2013 22:30 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: [Audyssey] The future of mobile accessible gaming, was: : mac versus windows Hi ya phil, Yeah man, as a commercial entity selling to a very limited market, the price point of iOS games is a concern. As you mentioned, , while it is true that a release of an iOS title will far out sale the same title for mac or windows, at what price will it be offered ? You said you have purchased over 40 games, but you've probably spent less than you would have for 2 premium mac or windows games I would think? True, the games for mobile devices don't offer nearly the depth or replayability of a quality premium mac or PC title, but even if it did, what would folks pay for it? For instance, , I think Jeremy could have easily sold swamp for $50 a license and moved at the very minimum 250 units, but what would he get for it on iOS with the same features? Of course, you'd need a bluetooth keyboard hooked up to your iOS device to get the same features, but you catch my drift. In the very limited market of accessible games, even if one sold a couple thousand copies at a buck a piece, a developer wouldn't even be approaching minimum wage per hour most likely. And if an accessible developer tried to sell a game for $15 or $20, I think a great deal of potential purchasers would scream rip off, because they are used to the super low price of most apps, not considering most of those apps are selling to tens of thousands of customers. This is not to say its all about money, nobody develops accessible games to get rich, but it is nice to get a few ounces of dough coming in for tons of hard work. I am personally hoping to release a set of educational apps for blind kids for free once I learn xCode. After that, I may look more closely at the commercial market, including micro purchases for in game upgrades, etc. No matter what, it is an interesting time for accessible gaming me thinks, as mister Zimmerman so concisely put it, the times they are a changin'. Take care, Che -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Phil Vlasak Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 6:16 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question Hi Che, I am sure Josh is talking about his mac games are outselling his windows games. I am sure when Draconis develops a full IOS game for iPhone and iPad, that will outsell the other two combined. I just got my iPhone two months ago and already have purcheased over forty games on it. True, they are in the $0.99 and 1.99 price point. - Original Message - From: Che Martin blindadrenal...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 4:18 AM Subject: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question Hi ya, Just red this quote from the list: Start quote: First, ignoring Mac as a viable platform for blind gamers is a poor strategy. One year on, and Mac sales are still far exceeding Windows sales, even in comparison to back in the hay day of audio games, some 10 years ago or so. It isn't just about raw user numbers, it is about demographics and the quality of those users. End quote Maybe I am misunderstanding the quote here, but are you saying that macs are outselling windows machines? Where are you getting those numbers? Its been a while since I checked, but last time I took notice macs were around 5 or 6 percent with PC's over 80 percent. I am sure the mac has made
Re: [Audyssey] BGT, Mac and More
Hi Cara, good point. One reason I chose to write my own game engine was for precisely that reason. I found a lot of game engines, toolkits, etc that were cross-platform but they always seemed to be inaccessible in one way or another. I can't speak for Corona specifically, but I do know accessibility features are often lacking in such things. Cheers! On 12/14/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: Davy, Corona, as with other cross platform SDKs can also break accessibility. Just something to be aware of. Thanks, Cara :) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] impersonating game developers and posting leud message to the list
Hello Stephen, As has been stated on list before we are working on the problem. Please, be patient. Thanks. On 12/14/13, Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net wrote: Can someone please get rid of this disgusting individual? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi, I bought my Toshiba about five years ago. The only thing that needed servicing, after two years, was the keyboard - Q9 and Pipe2 had me hittin' that Control key and spacebar a little too much. I arranged pick-up on Friday, they came to collect on Monday, and came to return four days later. Meanwhile I could track the repair progress, and all was covered under warranty, including the pick-up. Next I wanted to replace the RAM and HDD. I believe I had to unscrew three screws to do that. To top it off I can connect anything from USB to FireWire, SD-card to PCMCIA-card, 1 Gbps Ethernet to oldskool modem, dock to eSATA. That is why I chose this machine. I can't afford to be without a PC for a few weeks and/or spend a good deal of money or shipping or repairs. To me, that is one of the concerns with Apple's default warranty: it falls short. Of course, so do most consumer Windows laptops, that's why I avoid them. Davy -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 03:12 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question Mmm, yeah, definitely agree that Toshiba had a good run. I don't believe they're up there nowadays though, as they've mostly thrown their consumer products to the wolves and that includes all the gaming machines. Now the new hotness appears to be Lenovo, at least hardware wise. But I no longer trifle myself with such things, as all my machines are (obviously) all now Macs. :) Cheers, Sabahattin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The future of mobile accessible gaming, was: : mac versus windows
Hi Teresa. I agree with you on replay, even in some of the basic games. I've replayed choice of the dragon three times over and still haven't seen all of the game, simply because as a gamebook it is highly replayable, and lets not forget king of dragon pass with it's random set of events and other major factors in the game. I can see Che's point with games like sixth sense and Zany touch and it is true that there are very many arcade style games for Ios simply because the fact of being on a small portable device lends itself to quick and casual games, but that doesn't mean that is all that is available by any means. One game my brother has on his Ipad is Secret of Mana, an action rpg similar to Zelda by square originally released for the Snes, and known to be one of the longest and most complex games for that platform taking nearly 50 hours to complete! So yeso yes, while there are lots of simpler, quicker games that's by no means all the platform is capable of at all. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi, In all fairness, Eclipse is an excellent IDE on Windows too. I use it all the time for Java and am told that it is just as awesome for C++. The only reason I have VS 2012 installed is because I was working on a plugin project whose binaries had to be compiled with VC++ in order to work. If I hadn't had that requirement I'd probably use the Eclipse IDE for C++ Developers package. Davy -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 13:37 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question Hi Davy, That is hard to say, but I think VS Express is just another half-hearted attempt by Microsoft to compete with Mac and Linux. Microsoft knows if someone buys a Mac they can get and install XCode for free, and they are good to go. A Linux user can install various command line compilers and an IDE like Codeblocks or Eclipse and can develop as much as needed. Microsoft Windows up until 2005 had no free Microsoft IDE and compilers so they decided to release VS Express to try and attract amateur developers to the platform. At least that is how it seems to me. After all, I used VS Express to develop many projects in C# .NET and Visual Basic .NET and terms of an inexpensive IDE and compiler for .NET VS Express is useful if not as good as VS Pro. Its enough to get someone interested in .NET and writing some basic applications and games to be sure. However, for C++ Microsoft has gutted the IDE and compiler forcing someone to upgrade if they are a pro developer and need whatever it is that express doesn't have that they need. That's how Microsoft has set the hook and make developers pay. They give away just enough to let you build some basic apps and games, but sooner or later someone will run into a project where they need something the express versions do not have and have to pay the piper to update to a better version. Think of VS Express as a demo of VS Pro and you will get the logic behind it. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Davy Kager m...@davykager.nl wrote: Oh dear, I never knew! As I said I use VS Pro because I have easy and legal access to it, and one of the first things I always do is set up an x86 and x64 cross-build. In fact, I'm almost tempted to go x64 exclusively. Not sure why Microsoft thinks VS Express is good for you. :) Davy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!
Hi Sabahattin, Thanks. This creep seriously needs to get busted. Not only has he been spamming the list by faking e-mail addresses and sending porn to the list he also sent a number of fake moderator messages too which might have given some people here some false sense of security given that he forged my name and my address just like everyone else. In any case I do think I might want to put the list on emergency moderation just to make sure this slimeball doesn't get a chance to send one more fake message to the list. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
yep, that's certainly true. windows based computer companies, are, if anything, worse then apple, when it comes to repairs. you may, or may not, get a fully working system back. lol. herd stories from a friend of mine of sending his laptop in for repairs, only to have it come back with more problems then it went in with. toshiba though are very good. mind you, i've not once had to have a toshiba computer repaired, and that's in some 16 or 17 years of using them. almost all of my computers, keep collecting up, as i upgrade to a faster machine. lol. cause they just don't die. i look after my machines well, either that, or i have a nack for picking good machines. not sure which. i just never seem to have half the problems i hear about people having. the only thing i've ever had to have repaired, was my old iPhone 3gs. it bricked itself somehow, randomly one day. so i had to send it off. and after a bit of a problem of them sending me a 16 gb one in return, in stead of a 32 as mine was, i found the replacement, probably refurbished one, to have a far better battery life, then the original! lol. so that's my only experience with having to have an apple product repaired. and they did mess up. but after it was sent back and replaced with the right capasity one, it was all good. and i still have it to this day, and it is still working. it's now something like 3 years old. lol. i never did buy apple care for that though. but for my iPhone 5, and my new iPad mini, i do have apple care. it's an extra cost, but it covers them for 2 years of phone and web support, and 2 years of cover if anything gos wrong with them. i just wish that the devices themselves were cheaper. i mean, i payed a thousand bucks for the iphone 5, and the iPhone 5s is even worse! 1000 for a 64 gb iPhone 5, and it's closer to 1150! dollars for the 64 gb iPhone 5s! that is just a rip off! for a smartphone! never the less, most computer companies, aren't too good when it comes to repairs. it's a bit iffy if you will get a repaired one back, or one that's in worse condition then when you sent it in. lol even apple though, have problems. saw a story about a person in sydney, that send their mac in to a store to be repaired. they got it back, ... 4 months later! ... yes, 4 months later. that's just horrible! and the excuse? ... well, it was transfered from one store to another, and then they just seemed to sort of, .. forget ... that it was there, and had to be worked on. if the person didn't keep ringing up to find out where on earth their computer was, they probably wouldn't have ever seen it again. so, the only thing you can get out of this, is ... not one of the computer companies is relyable. lol. not one of them. not microsoft, not apple, and not one of the others. even toshiba has some bad stories out there. they are all as bad. it's just that, apple charges you a premium, and then forgets your computer. lol. ok, anyways, off to find something to shoot. i'm bored, and it's time for something to die, painfully, with a million bullets through it. preferably a zombie. lol. dallas On 15/12/2013, Davy Kager m...@davykager.nl wrote: Hi, I bought my Toshiba about five years ago. The only thing that needed servicing, after two years, was the keyboard - Q9 and Pipe2 had me hittin' that Control key and spacebar a little too much. I arranged pick-up on Friday, they came to collect on Monday, and came to return four days later. Meanwhile I could track the repair progress, and all was covered under warranty, including the pick-up. Next I wanted to replace the RAM and HDD. I believe I had to unscrew three screws to do that. To top it off I can connect anything from USB to FireWire, SD-card to PCMCIA-card, 1 Gbps Ethernet to oldskool modem, dock to eSATA. That is why I chose this machine. I can't afford to be without a PC for a few weeks and/or spend a good deal of money or shipping or repairs. To me, that is one of the concerns with Apple's default warranty: it falls short. Of course, so do most consumer Windows laptops, that's why I avoid them. Davy -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 03:12 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question Mmm, yeah, definitely agree that Toshiba had a good run. I don't believe they're up there nowadays though, as they've mostly thrown their consumer products to the wolves and that includes all the gaming machines. Now the new hotness appears to be Lenovo, at least hardware wise. But I no longer trifle myself with such things, as all my machines are (obviously) all now Macs. :) Cheers, Sabahattin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Davy, You will get no argument from me on that. Eclipse by and large is one of the best IDES out there for C++ or Java on any platform. There are times though where binary compatibility requires Visual C++ so having it is necessary for certain projects. Otherwise Eclipse with MinGW all the way. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Davy Kager m...@davykager.nl wrote: Hi, In all fairness, Eclipse is an excellent IDE on Windows too. I use it all the time for Java and am told that it is just as awesome for C++. The only reason I have VS 2012 installed is because I was working on a plugin project whose binaries had to be compiled with VC++ in order to work. If I hadn't had that requirement I'd probably use the Eclipse IDE for C++ Developers package. Davy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/ Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Uh? I did not send this message, but someone sent this message for me. Talk about insane. Now the spammer is spoofing the moderator? On 12/14/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, List: The spam that has been sent to this list is appalling. I am disgusted, like all of you. This was a clear, targeted attack against us, and the person who did this will be held responsible. The person responsible seems to have evaded moderation and will continue to do so until I figure this out. I apologize for this, please do not unsubscribe. I will figure it out. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] business games
oh true, but they are still good games even though not played on line. Their was also a trade game for the old eureka computer written in cpm can't recall the name their was an adult and a normal version if i recall. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] business games Indeed Lisa, in fact you mentioning truckers reminded me of trucking sim which can also be found on whitestick's directory. There is then also Mississippi (though I wasn't as keen on that one, however I think this was specifically a request for information about online games. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] business games and even starmule and trucker too. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] business games Hi. Well there are a couple listed over on the games to play online page at www.whitestick.co.uk. These including the game perfect competition, and the scifi business mud Federation Ii, (set in a sf universe but very much economics based). Indeed, in terms of business it's also worth remembering that several rpgs have fairly deep business systems. Torn city for example has a full stock market, detailed company employment and ownership system, real estate developement and a lot more, indeed there are players who don't do any of the fighting side of the game but just play for the business. Alien adoption agency even makes this a full time thing, though since the game is being reconstructed after being off line for a significantly long period I don't know how much of the higher finance made it back into the game. heck, even core exiles has some fairly complex management and economics, though it's not primarily a business type game. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Cara, Smile. You misunderstood what I meant by my comment. Of course, I know Mac's come with the OS and the developer tools are free. My comment was meant to convey the point that you can't just buy the software and run it in a virtual machine as that isn't legal. You have to actually own the hardware to run the software. As in buying the hardware and software as a complete package from Apple. Hope that makes things clearer now. Cheers! On 12/14/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: Thomas, when you mention buying a Mac, you also mention software. What are you thinking you need? The OS comes on the machine just like Windows and the development tools are free. the only other cost is the dev account. Were you thinking of something else? Thanks and hope you're having a great night! Smiles, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
I wondr who this person was that was sending so many unwelcome messages to the list? Last time a list was spammed it was coming from some blind person in the middle east somewhere. using windows7 laptop On 12/15/2013 4:27 AM, dark wrote: Hello. Thanks for the appologgy. While I won't deny that seeing the huge volume of insulting and s/xually explicit mesages, (especially those supposedly from myself), was not pleasant, I do know this was obviously one idiot, and I am glad steps are being taken to stop them from doing such again and restrict their general internet access in the future. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Shane Davidson sh...@shaned.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 AM Subject: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. Hello; My name is Shane Davidson, owner of the company that provides hosting services for both the Audyssey and USAGames interactive websites. My staff became aware both yesterday and early this morning of some very despicable behavior by one member, (or x-member, this is yet to be determined). This individual was posting hateful, difamitory, and sexually harassing messages, posing as other valid and upstanding list members who have been apart of the blind gaming community for years as gamers, developers and as interested parties. We take this very seriously, and on behalf of my company, and this lists management, I extend my most heartfelt apologies to each and every one of you. I have requested, and obtained the cooperation of the underlying service provider that was providing this individuals vehicle to become a royal pain, Linode LLC. Who have assured me that they are taking steps to stop this behavior immediately. I have also opened a ticket on behalf of Thomas Ward, who owns both Audyssey and USAGames interactive, in our own support system so we can more easily track this issue. We are working diligently to bring this to an end, and please don't leave over this. Thank you for your patience and time. Sincerely; Shane Davidson --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!
maybe they'll disconnect his internet? using windows7 laptop On 12/15/2013 9:09 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Sabahattin, Thanks. This creep seriously needs to get busted. Not only has he been spamming the list by faking e-mail addresses and sending porn to the list he also sent a number of fake moderator messages too which might have given some people here some false sense of security given that he forged my name and my address just like everyone else. In any case I do think I might want to put the list on emergency moderation just to make sure this slimeball doesn't get a chance to send one more fake message to the list. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
Hi Lisa, The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/ Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
I saw about 3 pages of messages. We had a problem similar to this on the sightexchange email list. On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Lisa, The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/ Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Angela Randall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Dallas. To be honest I wouldn't trust any major coorporation with repares, just because when you send your computer or phone or whatever off to somewhere else you have no idea where it is, when you get it back or what's going on with it. If I ever need a repare I know a very nice local firm of tech specialists who deal with anything windows relatedd and take literally a week, indeed they built my current pc, handled the installation of a new graphics card when the old one bust last year, and also sold me a new internal hd and took me through installing it. They will also do software fixes too at a very reasonable price and the most I've ever seen them take over a repare was one week which was my mum's desktop. They don't deal with mac or anything Apple related unfortunately, indeed I don't know if it is even possible to get local repares done that way what with Apple's thing about being in absolute control of anything to do with their products even when you own them. But for anything windows I'd always trust my local, or indeed someone like them. Ultimately it's like anything else, if you send whatever peace of equipment to be fixed, if it's done locally you can always check up on it, be sure of what is being done and remain in touch with the process. If it's sent off into the coorporate black hole you don't know where it's gone, and indeed with the size of a lot of companies like apple, neither do many of the people who work there either :D. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Threshhold mud question on making a character
Hi, logged into threshhold mudd for the first time and am trying to make a character. first step is picking a name. I noticed that it gets to step 6 wich is about not picking a name that is a modern name, and then it says press enter to continue. I hit enter but the same thing is on the screen, about the rules of picking a name. I have tried typing a name and hitting enter. same thing. Any suggestions? K --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
Whoever it is should be banned from using the list. -Original Message- From: Josh Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 2:40 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. I wondr who this person was that was sending so many unwelcome messages to the list? Last time a list was spammed it was coming from some blind person in the middle east somewhere. using windows7 laptop On 12/15/2013 4:27 AM, dark wrote: Hello. Thanks for the appologgy. While I won't deny that seeing the huge volume of insulting and s/xually explicit mesages, (especially those supposedly from myself), was not pleasant, I do know this was obviously one idiot, and I am glad steps are being taken to stop them from doing such again and restrict their general internet access in the future. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Shane Davidson sh...@shaned.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 AM Subject: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. Hello; My name is Shane Davidson, owner of the company that provides hosting services for both the Audyssey and USAGames interactive websites. My staff became aware both yesterday and early this morning of some very despicable behavior by one member, (or x-member, this is yet to be determined). This individual was posting hateful, difamitory, and sexually harassing messages, posing as other valid and upstanding list members who have been apart of the blind gaming community for years as gamers, developers and as interested parties. We take this very seriously, and on behalf of my company, and this lists management, I extend my most heartfelt apologies to each and every one of you. I have requested, and obtained the cooperation of the underlying service provider that was providing this individuals vehicle to become a royal pain, Linode LLC. Who have assured me that they are taking steps to stop this behavior immediately. I have also opened a ticket on behalf of Thomas Ward, who owns both Audyssey and USAGames interactive, in our own support system so we can more easily track this issue. We are working diligently to bring this to an end, and please don't leave over this. Thank you for your patience and time. Sincerely; Shane Davidson --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Well, Dark, you don’t trust any corporations with anything. I mostly don’t either, but I think that taking middle ground on such things puts people more in the ballpark of reality. Not *all* corporations are evil, any more than *all* people are. To answer the question you posed, you can indeed usually get Apple hardware repaired locally or by small companies. For all the years I had PC’s, though, I had extremely bad experiences with local companies that I went to for service, so I don’t think you can trust them in the main, either. It’s great that you’ve found one that you do business with, because I am a proponent for supporting local businesses in general. All that being said, Apple has the highest customer satisfaction rate of any company on the planet for electronics, computers, and customer service. The very few times I’ve dealt with them my products have been repaired/replaced in under an hour at the AppleStore, and if you don’t have an AppleStore, they will usually pay for overnight shipping if your product is under warranty, so you’re rarely without your device for more than two days. Also, Apple, by default, has a 1 year warrantee on the vast majority of its products for no additional cost, which is far longer than the 90 days or less provided by just about anyone else. You can have that extended to 3 years for a fee, and in general it is no questions asked. It doesn’t usually cover user damage, though. You can’t drive over it with a car and expect Apple to pay for it. LOL. On Dec 15, 2013, at 10:14 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Dallas. To be honest I wouldn't trust any major coorporation with repares, just because when you send your computer or phone or whatever off to somewhere else you have no idea where it is, when you get it back or what's going on with it. If I ever need a repare I know a very nice local firm of tech specialists who deal with anything windows relatedd and take literally a week, indeed they built my current pc, handled the installation of a new graphics card when the old one bust last year, and also sold me a new internal hd and took me through installing it. They will also do software fixes too at a very reasonable price and the most I've ever seen them take over a repare was one week which was my mum's desktop. They don't deal with mac or anything Apple related unfortunately, indeed I don't know if it is even possible to get local repares done that way what with Apple's thing about being in absolute control of anything to do with their products even when you own them. But for anything windows I'd always trust my local, or indeed someone like them. Ultimately it's like anything else, if you send whatever peace of equipment to be fixed, if it's done locally you can always check up on it, be sure of what is being done and remain in touch with the process. If it's sent off into the coorporate black hole you don't know where it's gone, and indeed with the size of a lot of companies like apple, neither do many of the people who work there either :D. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Aside from outside sighted individuals who might just want to use it, I'd have a monitor simply because you never know what may or may not happen to the computer. I've had instances where I'll boot up my PC and have no screen reader for whatever reason, and it's nice to just have a screen on hand so that a sighted person can tell me what is on the screen, and, if required, remedy the situation themselves. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 6:25 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question Hi Josh, Well, that is just it. I know a blind user can use the Mac without a monitor, but I also have a son who is sighted. I try to make sure anything I have can be used by my son and any other sighted users in my family just in case they want to use it. So if the Mac Mini was just for myself I might consider foregoing the monitor, but as I said I do have sighted family who may wish to use it so a monitor is a bit of a must for them. Cheers! On 12/14/13, Draconis i...@dracoent.com wrote: Hi Tom, Unless you have someone sighted planning on using the Mac mini also, you can use it perfectly well without a monitor. I did that for years. You can also buy adapters for many kinds of older desktop monitors, so if you already have a monitor hanging around, there's a good chance it could be used with the mini. But purchasing a monitor is in no way a requirement for a VO users of a Mac mini. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Fortunately, in over 8 years of being a Mac user, I have never had to resort to a sighted person for help. It’s one of the advantages of ditching Windows. :) On Dec 15, 2013, at 11:23 AM, hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Aside from outside sighted individuals who might just want to use it, I'd have a monitor simply because you never know what may or may not happen to the computer. I've had instances where I'll boot up my PC and have no screen reader for whatever reason, and it's nice to just have a screen on hand so that a sighted person can tell me what is on the screen, and, if required, remedy the situation themselves. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 6:25 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question Hi Josh, Well, that is just it. I know a blind user can use the Mac without a monitor, but I also have a son who is sighted. I try to make sure anything I have can be used by my son and any other sighted users in my family just in case they want to use it. So if the Mac Mini was just for myself I might consider foregoing the monitor, but as I said I do have sighted family who may wish to use it so a monitor is a bit of a must for them. Cheers! On 12/14/13, Draconis i...@dracoent.com wrote: Hi Tom, Unless you have someone sighted planning on using the Mac mini also, you can use it perfectly well without a monitor. I did that for years. You can also buy adapters for many kinds of older desktop monitors, so if you already have a monitor hanging around, there's a good chance it could be used with the mini. But purchasing a monitor is in no way a requirement for a VO users of a Mac mini. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!
Hi i was going to suggest this, put us all on emergency moderation until this has all been stopped, i am not playing moderator here, just offering a suggestion. Regards Chris. On 15/12/2013 14:09, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Sabahattin, Thanks. This creep seriously needs to get busted. Not only has he been spamming the list by faking e-mail addresses and sending porn to the list he also sent a number of fake moderator messages too which might have given some people here some false sense of security given that he forged my name and my address just like everyone else. In any case I do think I might want to put the list on emergency moderation just to make sure this slimeball doesn't get a chance to send one more fake message to the list. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. . --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Yeah, Apple are very good with repairs in my experience. They replaced the same optical drive in my oldest Mac Mini, twice, with just seventeen days left on the warranty. For desktops, they'll come to your home, and if you don't have packing material, they'll also send along the box with the courier, so they can pack it on the spot. Very sweet. I've had both good and bad experiences with local firms here. As with everything, they range from scams to incompetence to excellence. The web can help with that. Generally, I advise that PC users get desktops built by a local shop (if you aren't doing it yourself) because that way the savings are a bit more pronounced towards the very high end of the spectrum. Just make sure they give you a stamp of approval and a warranty with it. Cheers, Sabahattin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The future of mobile accessible gaming, was: : mac versus windows
Ah, I loved Secret of Mana on the SNES. I beat it, multiple times I think. Secret of Mana happens to be a game that would be very difficult to make accessible, even on a computer. And when doing so an accessible game author would likely make heavy use of extra shortcut keys for the player to get at information like health and mana that is usually presented visually at all times and can be seen at a glance. I suppose my main point is just that accessible versions of many games have more player input requirements than sighted versions. So as Che mentioned a keyboard is a requirement for a large portion of accessible games. And it makes it difficult to target IOS with those types of games knowing that each of your users will need to also own a bluetooth keyboard. On Dec 15, 2013, at 7:01 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Teresa. I agree with you on replay, even in some of the basic games. I've replayed choice of the dragon three times over and still haven't seen all of the game, simply because as a gamebook it is highly replayable, and lets not forget king of dragon pass with it's random set of events and other major factors in the game. I can see Che's point with games like sixth sense and Zany touch and it is true that there are very many arcade style games for Ios simply because the fact of being on a small portable device lends itself to quick and casual games, but that doesn't mean that is all that is available by any means. One game my brother has on his Ipad is Secret of Mana, an action rpg similar to Zelda by square originally released for the Snes, and known to be one of the longest and most complex games for that platform taking nearly 50 hours to complete! So yeso yes, while there are lots of simpler, quicker games that's by no means all the platform is capable of at all. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] SPACE ATTACK Installer
Hey Charles, see if you have better luck with this. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96692612/SpaceAttackDemoSetup.exe Check out my games at www.ThePionEar.net and my music, and that of my band, at www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html . Also, check out, The Believer and Skeptic Show, at iTunes! If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook, (KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com . --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] business games
hi, yes i know games of this type do have a form of rinse and repete style of play to some degree. i don't mind that so much if you can make a mark and have something to show for it. right now i'm playing furry paws. initially i completely dismissed it because of what i thought the game was. but now i've actually started playing it, you can slowly and surely make a real difference in the game and people will help you just like they would in ce. it's that feeling of accomplishment that you can get that goes way beyond what you would get from a simple scoreboard. Sent from my iPad On 15 Dec 2013, at 11:17, Tyler programmer...@comcast.net wrote: There's also Reign, but that's more like running a country, but basically the same thing. http://www.reign.ws Tyler Z On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:14:43 -, dark wrote: Indeed Lisa, in fact you mentioning truckers reminded me of trucking sim which can also be found on whitestick's directory. There is then also Mississippi (though I wasn't as keen on that one, however I think this was specifically a request for information about online games. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] business games and even starmule and trucker too. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] business games Hi. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The future of mobile accessible gaming, was: : mac versus windows
I just don’t think that complexity of the game necessarily correlates with replayability. I happen to prefer first-person shooters, trivia, and word games, and these are games I can play over and over again. I played Terraformers so many times i can’t count. I also don’t think accessibility requires a keyboard, especially on IoS. If you factor in the gyroscope, IoS games are more similar to video games. Moving the device or the body becomes the interface. I realize this is more difficult with RPGs and strategy games,but Solara has become very popular on IoS. I played it for awhile, but strategy and RPGs are just not appealing to me. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Dec 15, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Support supp...@blindaudiogames.com wrote: Ah, I loved Secret of Mana on the SNES. I beat it, multiple times I think. Secret of Mana happens to be a game that would be very difficult to make accessible, even on a computer. And when doing so an accessible game author would likely make heavy use of extra shortcut keys for the player to get at information like health and mana that is usually presented visually at all times and can be seen at a glance. I suppose my main point is just that accessible versions of many games have more player input requirements than sighted versions. So as Che mentioned a keyboard is a requirement for a large portion of accessible games. And it makes it difficult to target IOS with those types of games knowing that each of your users will need to also own a bluetooth keyboard. On Dec 15, 2013, at 7:01 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Teresa. I agree with you on replay, even in some of the basic games. I've replayed choice of the dragon three times over and still haven't seen all of the game, simply because as a gamebook it is highly replayable, and lets not forget king of dragon pass with it's random set of events and other major factors in the game. I can see Che's point with games like sixth sense and Zany touch and it is true that there are very many arcade style games for Ios simply because the fact of being on a small portable device lends itself to quick and casual games, but that doesn't mean that is all that is available by any means. One game my brother has on his Ipad is Secret of Mana, an action rpg similar to Zelda by square originally released for the Snes, and known to be one of the longest and most complex games for that platform taking nearly 50 hours to complete! So yeso yes, while there are lots of simpler, quicker games that's by no means all the platform is capable of at all. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
Hello Lori, It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list. cheers! On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Whoever it is should be banned from using the list. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
He did this crap a few years ago. Just look for a lister who has consistantly bad grammar and poor use of punctuation. I already have a theory as to who it is, but I'm not pointing any fingers just yet. Check out my games at www.ThePionEar.net and my music, and that of my band, at www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html . Also, check out, The Believer and Skeptic Show, at iTunes! If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook, (KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com . - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Hi Lisa, The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/ Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
This topic has come up on another thread, and it jogged my memory of seeing an interesting article while looking at some other things. I find this fascinating. http://tinyurl.com/FirstPersonPsych Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
I think that anyone who jeopardizes such a wonderful lists, security should be forcibly removed, once they are found. This type of behaviour just, isn't, acceptable. Lindsay Cowell -original message- Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Date: 15/12/2013 6:44 pm Hello Lori, It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list. cheers! On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Whoever it is should be banned from using the list. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
I am not sure how the genre of games are classified, but I do know one thing for certain, there has been a lot of controversy about violence and stuff like that over games like this, and in my previous research I discovered that the long you are exposed to it, the more hard-wired it is going to be in your brain. Also, there is an upside to this. It allows you to increase and boost your decision-making mechanisms. On a television news cast I watched one day they discovered that people who played these kinds of games had shorter reacting time to real-life threats. In conclusion, violent games should not be played to any extreme that it will force your attitudes to change, but should be played at a level of moderation. On 12/15/2013 10:49 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: This topic has come up on another thread, and it jogged my memory of seeing an interesting article while looking at some other things. I find this fascinating. http://tinyurl.com/FirstPersonPsych Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] business games
I'm interested in this truckers, and trucker sim, where can you find both of these? On 12/15/13, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: hi, yes i know games of this type do have a form of rinse and repete style of play to some degree. i don't mind that so much if you can make a mark and have something to show for it. right now i'm playing furry paws. initially i completely dismissed it because of what i thought the game was. but now i've actually started playing it, you can slowly and surely make a real difference in the game and people will help you just like they would in ce. it's that feeling of accomplishment that you can get that goes way beyond what you would get from a simple scoreboard. Sent from my iPad On 15 Dec 2013, at 11:17, Tyler programmer...@comcast.net wrote: There's also Reign, but that's more like running a country, but basically the same thing. http://www.reign.ws Tyler Z On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:14:43 -, dark wrote: Indeed Lisa, in fact you mentioning truckers reminded me of trucking sim which can also be found on whitestick's directory. There is then also Mississippi (though I wasn't as keen on that one, however I think this was specifically a request for information about online games. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] business games and even starmule and trucker too. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] business games Hi. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
I don’t think games have to be about killing people. Killing monsters and zombies is fine. :) Or you could make it somewhat abstract and have to react to something in a split second. Change reaction comes to mind. It has some elements of both a puzzle and a shooter. I play that game quite a bit, too. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Dec 15, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote: I am not sure how the genre of games are classified, but I do know one thing for certain, there has been a lot of controversy about violence and stuff like that over games like this, and in my previous research I discovered that the long you are exposed to it, the more hard-wired it is going to be in your brain. Also, there is an upside to this. It allows you to increase and boost your decision-making mechanisms. On a television news cast I watched one day they discovered that people who played these kinds of games had shorter reacting time to real-life threats. In conclusion, violent games should not be played to any extreme that it will force your attitudes to change, but should be played at a level of moderation. On 12/15/2013 10:49 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: This topic has come up on another thread, and it jogged my memory of seeing an interesting article while looking at some other things. I find this fascinating. http://tinyurl.com/FirstPersonPsych Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The future of mobile accessible gaming, was: : mac versus windows
I agree that complexity does not necessarily correlate with replayability. And it's obvious that many games can be made accessible without a keyboard, especially if the only interface is a menu. And the gyroscopes can definitely make up for some of the loss of a keyboard in games like Papa Sangre 2. But I do think that first person games could also be made more in depth and fast paced with a keyboard available. For instance did you ever find it cumbersome to maneuver your character in Papa Sangre 1? Or find it hard to tell how far you really were from that snuffle hog? Of course that's what gave the game some of it's challenge, so it worked well. But imagine trying to play Swamp on your iPhone without a keyboard. Are you going to tap your thumbs to run from the zombies? In game text chat would have also just died. There is definitely a wide range of games that can be made accessible on iPhone, but as I said there is also a large portion of games that do make more sense with a keyboard and it does give you a lot of extra player inputs to work with as a developer. Fair enough that you don't enjoy strategy or RPGs, it's definitely a personal choice. I don't get any enjoyment from card or board games, and these are probably the types of games enjoyed by the largest population of blind players. On Dec 15, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: I just don’t think that complexity of the game necessarily correlates with replayability. I happen to prefer first-person shooters, trivia, and word games, and these are games I can play over and over again. I played Terraformers so many times i can’t count. I also don’t think accessibility requires a keyboard, especially on IoS. If you factor in the gyroscope, IoS games are more similar to video games. Moving the device or the body becomes the interface. I realize this is more difficult with RPGs and strategy games,but Solara has become very popular on IoS. I played it for awhile, but strategy and RPGs are just not appealing to me. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Dec 15, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Support supp...@blindaudiogames.com wrote: Ah, I loved Secret of Mana on the SNES. I beat it, multiple times I think. Secret of Mana happens to be a game that would be very difficult to make accessible, even on a computer. And when doing so an accessible game author would likely make heavy use of extra shortcut keys for the player to get at information like health and mana that is usually presented visually at all times and can be seen at a glance. I suppose my main point is just that accessible versions of many games have more player input requirements than sighted versions. So as Che mentioned a keyboard is a requirement for a large portion of accessible games. And it makes it difficult to target IOS with those types of games knowing that each of your users will need to also own a bluetooth keyboard. On Dec 15, 2013, at 7:01 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Teresa. I agree with you on replay, even in some of the basic games. I've replayed choice of the dragon three times over and still haven't seen all of the game, simply because as a gamebook it is highly replayable, and lets not forget king of dragon pass with it's random set of events and other major factors in the game. I can see Che's point with games like sixth sense and Zany touch and it is true that there are very many arcade style games for Ios simply because the fact of being on a small portable device lends itself to quick and casual games, but that doesn't mean that is all that is available by any means. One game my brother has on his Ipad is Secret of Mana, an action rpg similar to Zelda by square originally released for the Snes, and known to be one of the longest and most complex games for that platform taking nearly 50 hours to complete! So yeso yes, while there are lots of simpler, quicker games that's by no means all the platform is capable of at all. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any
Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
How do you define a monster, in theory? A monster is a dehumanised creature with characteristics of evil. A zombie is a legendary creature from which a human once died. When it comes to playing things to dehumanising a creature, it allows us to feel less tender-hearted towards that creature so we can destroy it. Myself, games that entail any form of violence I steer-clear unless they have puzzles (like the ones you stated). The point here is to have as minimal amount of violence. On 12/15/2013 11:18 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I don’t think games have to be about killing people. Killing monsters and zombies is fine. :) Or you could make it somewhat abstract and have to react to something in a split second. Change reaction comes to mind. It has some elements of both a puzzle and a shooter. I play that game quite a bit, too. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Dec 15, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote: I am not sure how the genre of games are classified, but I do know one thing for certain, there has been a lot of controversy about violence and stuff like that over games like this, and in my previous research I discovered that the long you are exposed to it, the more hard-wired it is going to be in your brain. Also, there is an upside to this. It allows you to increase and boost your decision-making mechanisms. On a television news cast I watched one day they discovered that people who played these kinds of games had shorter reacting time to real-life threats. In conclusion, violent games should not be played to any extreme that it will force your attitudes to change, but should be played at a level of moderation. On 12/15/2013 10:49 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: This topic has come up on another thread, and it jogged my memory of seeing an interesting article while looking at some other things. I find this fascinating. http://tinyurl.com/FirstPersonPsych Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
Oh, I have to admit that I love horror and a certain amount of violence. It gets the adrenaline flowing and scares the crud out of me, and i get a rush. If I still get a rush from it, and I play the same amount at the same level, I suppose I’m not getting terribly desensitized. :) Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Dec 15, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote: How do you define a monster, in theory? A monster is a dehumanised creature with characteristics of evil. A zombie is a legendary creature from which a human once died. When it comes to playing things to dehumanising a creature, it allows us to feel less tender-hearted towards that creature so we can destroy it. Myself, games that entail any form of violence I steer-clear unless they have puzzles (like the ones you stated). The point here is to have as minimal amount of violence. On 12/15/2013 11:18 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I don’t think games have to be about killing people. Killing monsters and zombies is fine. :) Or you could make it somewhat abstract and have to react to something in a split second. Change reaction comes to mind. It has some elements of both a puzzle and a shooter. I play that game quite a bit, too. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Dec 15, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote: I am not sure how the genre of games are classified, but I do know one thing for certain, there has been a lot of controversy about violence and stuff like that over games like this, and in my previous research I discovered that the long you are exposed to it, the more hard-wired it is going to be in your brain. Also, there is an upside to this. It allows you to increase and boost your decision-making mechanisms. On a television news cast I watched one day they discovered that people who played these kinds of games had shorter reacting time to real-life threats. In conclusion, violent games should not be played to any extreme that it will force your attitudes to change, but should be played at a level of moderation. On 12/15/2013 10:49 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: This topic has come up on another thread, and it jogged my memory of seeing an interesting article while looking at some other things. I find this fascinating. http://tinyurl.com/FirstPersonPsych Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or
Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
Also love reading horror books because I enjoy foreshadowing what is going to happen next. A few years ago I got caught up on reading all of the R. L. Stine books. I still believe that we can enjoy whatever we want as long as we are open-minded. I know a few individuals who have been affected by the games they play and because of their attitudes I was forced to leave. On 12/15/2013 11:29 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Oh, I have to admit that I love horror and a certain amount of violence. It gets the adrenaline flowing and scares the crud out of me, and i get a rush. If I still get a rush from it, and I play the same amount at the same level, I suppose I’m not getting terribly desensitized. :) Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Dec 15, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote: How do you define a monster, in theory? A monster is a dehumanised creature with characteristics of evil. A zombie is a legendary creature from which a human once died. When it comes to playing things to dehumanising a creature, it allows us to feel less tender-hearted towards that creature so we can destroy it. Myself, games that entail any form of violence I steer-clear unless they have puzzles (like the ones you stated). The point here is to have as minimal amount of violence. On 12/15/2013 11:18 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I don’t think games have to be about killing people. Killing monsters and zombies is fine. :) Or you could make it somewhat abstract and have to react to something in a split second. Change reaction comes to mind. It has some elements of both a puzzle and a shooter. I play that game quite a bit, too. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Dec 15, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote: I am not sure how the genre of games are classified, but I do know one thing for certain, there has been a lot of controversy about violence and stuff like that over games like this, and in my previous research I discovered that the long you are exposed to it, the more hard-wired it is going to be in your brain. Also, there is an upside to this. It allows you to increase and boost your decision-making mechanisms. On a television news cast I watched one day they discovered that people who played these kinds of games had shorter reacting time to real-life threats. In conclusion, violent games should not be played to any extreme that it will force your attitudes to change, but should be played at a level of moderation. On 12/15/2013 10:49 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: This topic has come up on another thread, and it jogged my memory of seeing an interesting article while looking at some other things. I find this fascinating. http://tinyurl.com/FirstPersonPsych Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want
Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely. Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad of an idea, either. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. Hello Lori, It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list. cheers! On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Whoever it is should be banned from using the list. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
The decisions you make in life should not be based on those you make in a violent game. If you cannot separate the two, you shouldn't be playing the games. That's where self control and or supervision at a young impressionable age are necessary. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters I don’t think games have to be about killing people. Killing monsters and zombies is fine. :) Or you could make it somewhat abstract and have to react to something in a split second. Change reaction comes to mind. It has some elements of both a puzzle and a shooter. I play that game quite a bit, too. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Dec 15, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote: I am not sure how the genre of games are classified, but I do know one thing for certain, there has been a lot of controversy about violence and stuff like that over games like this, and in my previous research I discovered that the long you are exposed to it, the more hard-wired it is going to be in your brain. Also, there is an upside to this. It allows you to increase and boost your decision-making mechanisms. On a television news cast I watched one day they discovered that people who played these kinds of games had shorter reacting time to real-life threats. In conclusion, violent games should not be played to any extreme that it will force your attitudes to change, but should be played at a level of moderation. On 12/15/2013 10:49 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: This topic has come up on another thread, and it jogged my memory of seeing an interesting article while looking at some other things. I find this fascinating. http://tinyurl.com/FirstPersonPsych Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
I agree, and the same goes for those stupid hackers and cheaters on Swamp and other games. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely. Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad of an idea, either. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. Hello Lori, It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list. cheers! On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Whoever it is should be banned from using the list. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
Exactly, I enjoyed playing games like that but because my attention was distracted elsewhere, I never got addicted to those games, though I know a few who have and they say because it has a lot of replay value. On 12/15/2013 12:22 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: The decisions you make in life should not be based on those you make in a violent game. If you cannot separate the two, you shouldn't be playing the games. That's where self control and or supervision at a young impressionable age are necessary. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters I don’t think games have to be about killing people. Killing monsters and zombies is fine. :) Or you could make it somewhat abstract and have to react to something in a split second. Change reaction comes to mind. It has some elements of both a puzzle and a shooter. I play that game quite a bit, too. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Dec 15, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote: I am not sure how the genre of games are classified, but I do know one thing for certain, there has been a lot of controversy about violence and stuff like that over games like this, and in my previous research I discovered that the long you are exposed to it, the more hard-wired it is going to be in your brain. Also, there is an upside to this. It allows you to increase and boost your decision-making mechanisms. On a television news cast I watched one day they discovered that people who played these kinds of games had shorter reacting time to real-life threats. In conclusion, violent games should not be played to any extreme that it will force your attitudes to change, but should be played at a level of moderation. On 12/15/2013 10:49 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: This topic has come up on another thread, and it jogged my memory of seeing an interesting article while looking at some other things. I find this fascinating. http://tinyurl.com/FirstPersonPsych Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
Sopme folk are just criminals. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Hi Lisa, The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/ Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man who tried to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago? -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Sopme folk are just criminals. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Hi Lisa, The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/ Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
I know someone from the playroom who had similar mannerisms. I forgot his user name, but he said he was Steve and he was forty--two. He liked crashing everyone's screen readers. On 12/15/2013 1:00 PM, Sky Mundell wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man who tried to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago? -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Sopme folk are just criminals. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Hi Lisa, The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/ Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Threshhold mud question on making a character
I tried to find this mud on mud connector, but it wasn't listed. Do you have the information for it? Shannon On Dec 15, 2013, at 10:28 AM, K ks.steinbac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, logged into threshhold mudd for the first time and am trying to make a character. first step is picking a name. I noticed that it gets to step 6 wich is about not picking a name that is a modern name, and then it says press enter to continue. I hit enter but the same thing is on the screen, about the rules of picking a name. I have tried typing a name and hitting enter. same thing. Any suggestions? K --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] qcibtuyvvlyckymfrura
who is using my name!!! - Original Message - From: Ken Downey kenwdow...@thepionear.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:21 AM Subject: [Audyssey] qcibtuyvvlyckymfrura HAIRY BUTTHOLE HAIRY BUTTHOLE HAIRY BUTTHOLE! THOMAS WARD THINKS HE CAN MOD THE LIST BUT I AM TOO SMART FOR HIM! IF YOU OPENED THIS EMAIL, YOU WILL NOW HAVE A TROJAN! HAHAHAH! GOOD LUCK GETTING YOUR FREE SHITTY ANTI MALWARE SOFTWARE TO DETECT THIS SHIT! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
Why do they like doing it though, it doesn't make sense to me at all. -Original Message- From: Ulysses Garcia Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages I know someone from the playroom who had similar mannerisms. I forgot his user name, but he said he was Steve and he was forty--two. He liked crashing everyone's screen readers. On 12/15/2013 1:00 PM, Sky Mundell wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man who tried to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago? -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Sopme folk are just criminals. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Hi Lisa, The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/ Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Moderator List Status
Hello List, As all of you or at least most of you know by now yesterday around 4:00 PM Eastern Standard Time an unnamed perpetrator/perpetrators began sending various sexually explicit messages disguised as legitimate list members to the list. Along with the sexually explicit messages they also decided to fake a number of moderator messages from me saying that the situation was being handled when in fact that was just a smoke screen to mess with everyone's heads. I myself was unaware of the situation until early this morning after I woke up and had breakfast. Fortunately though, one of my administrators from my webhost was subscribed to the list and was able to take immediate action once the spam began poring in. He filed an emergency ticket, and around 10:41 PM last night we got word back that Linode had cut off all out going mail to this list. So what does that mean for the status of the list? At this point we think we have stopped or at least slowed the source of the spam for the time being. If spam continues to flood in to this list we will take immediate action and put the entire list on moderated status until such time that the spam is stopped for good. However, as no new spam has come in since late last night we think we have stopped the spam for the time being and moderating the list is not necessary at this time. However, rest assured we have people monitoring the situation to see if there is any renewed spam attacks. As for the perpetrator or perpetrators there is a lot of speculation as to the individuals involved, and we are following up all leads and information as we have it. All I can say at this time is we don't know who is behind the attacks yet, but I expect to know more once we have a chance to look at the logs and follow the e-mails back to their source if we can. There are talented people working on the issue, and all we can do right now is wait and see what they come up with. In the mean time let us get back to gaming, and hope things are taken care of. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List gamers-ow...@audyssey.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
Hi Lori, Cheap thrills. Some people have really antisocial behaviors like hurting people, messing things up for others, or just breaking things because they can. It doesn't make sense to you because you are a kind, caring, and decent person. They lack those qualities, and for that reason are unable to show empathy or care about what others think or feel. They do whatever whenever for their own sadistic pleasure. Cheers! On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Why do they like doing it though, it doesn't make sense to me at all. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
Probably because they have no life and can think of nothing better to do with their time. That and they're just perverted. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! -Original Message- From: loriduncan Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 2:49 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Why do they like doing it though, it doesn't make sense to me at all. -Original Message- From: Ulysses Garcia Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages I know someone from the playroom who had similar mannerisms. I forgot his user name, but he said he was Steve and he was forty--two. He liked crashing everyone's screen readers. On 12/15/2013 1:00 PM, Sky Mundell wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man who tried to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago? -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Sopme folk are just criminals. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Hi Lisa, The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/ Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
There must be a reason, Thomas, why they feel this way. I try to take the perspective of a scientist. What would they say, that they lacked serotonin or something of the sort? I talked a lot about this on my blog at http://sensationexperience.wordpress.com/ If you have any more to say I suggest we talk one-on-one so we do not clutter up the list with things like this. On 12/15/2013 1:56 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Lori, Cheap thrills. Some people have really antisocial behaviors like hurting people, messing things up for others, or just breaking things because they can. It doesn't make sense to you because you are a kind, caring, and decent person. They lack those qualities, and for that reason are unable to show empathy or care about what others think or feel. They do whatever whenever for their own sadistic pleasure. Cheers! On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Why do they like doing it though, it doesn't make sense to me at all. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
In my opinion, they didn’t get addicted to them because they have a lot of replay value. They got addicted to them because those folks had little or no self-control. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Dec 15, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote: Exactly, I enjoyed playing games like that but because my attention was distracted elsewhere, I never got addicted to those games, though I know a few who have and they say because it has a lot of replay value. On 12/15/2013 12:22 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: The decisions you make in life should not be based on those you make in a violent game. If you cannot separate the two, you shouldn't be playing the games. That's where self control and or supervision at a young impressionable age are necessary. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters I don’t think games have to be about killing people. Killing monsters and zombies is fine. :) Or you could make it somewhat abstract and have to react to something in a split second. Change reaction comes to mind. It has some elements of both a puzzle and a shooter. I play that game quite a bit, too. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Dec 15, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote: I am not sure how the genre of games are classified, but I do know one thing for certain, there has been a lot of controversy about violence and stuff like that over games like this, and in my previous research I discovered that the long you are exposed to it, the more hard-wired it is going to be in your brain. Also, there is an upside to this. It allows you to increase and boost your decision-making mechanisms. On a television news cast I watched one day they discovered that people who played these kinds of games had shorter reacting time to real-life threats. In conclusion, violent games should not be played to any extreme that it will force your attitudes to change, but should be played at a level of moderation. On 12/15/2013 10:49 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: This topic has come up on another thread, and it jogged my memory of seeing an interesting article while looking at some other things. I find this fascinating. http://tinyurl.com/FirstPersonPsych Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] BGT, Mac and More
Hi, I don't doubt it. I don't have personal experience with that toolkit, I just heard LWorks used it. The only cross-platform tools I have experience with revolve around Java, and I can say that providing an accessible GUI on Mac and Windows from one code-base isn't too hard. Now to see about audio and input! As for Corona, I thought it was an interesting concept. It's good to know about accessibility issues with such projects. I'd imagine low-latency can also be a problem since they are higher-level than native code. Davy -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 03:29 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT, Mac and More Davy, Corona, as with other cross platform SDKs can also break accessibility. Just something to be aware of. Thanks, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Dec 14, 2013, at 4:42 AM, Davy Kager m...@davykager.nl wrote: There is always this too: http://coronalabs.com/ Of course the disadvantage is that you don't learn about the native platform in the way you would when going Objective-C. You may also not get the same low-level access (i.e. Accelerated framework, Audio Units) that you get using Objective-C. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 03:57 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT, Mac and More Hi Josh, Yes, you do need a Mac. Not sure if you're offering commentary on my note but if you are, davy mentioned purchasing a Mac and then the big money for the dev account so I was wondering if there might be some confusion here. If you have any other questions on Mac / iOS development, please don't hesitate to ask. :) -Happy to answer them… Have an awesome night! Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Dec 13, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Josh joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: you do need a mac to develop for IOS, right? using windows7 laptop On 12/13/2013 7:13 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Hi Davy, A question and a comment; When you say big bucks for a developer account, you are aware that this is $99 per year, not per month, yes? This translates to less than $8 per month, -less than $2 per week. Not sure of your budget but just want to make sure we're all on the same page here. :) To your point about not needing XCode when using C++, you do still need XCode to build for iOS / Mac, regardless of whether you use C++ or not. Hope this helps and hope you and yours are having a most lovely holiday season! Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Dec 13, 2013, at 8:30 AM, Davy Kager m...@davykager.nl wrote: Hi, All very interesting points you made. I tend to agree that C++ is awesome (in an IDE that isn't vendor-specific, with an opensource toolchain). I'd love to automate my build process on Linux and do nightlies for beta testers. My main reason for using Java is that I can't avoid using it in the future, on projects where I don't get to decide what language to use. I am interested in iOS development in the long run. I thought of concentrating on Windows for now, using OpenAL or XAudio2 with C++, and then combining a Mac and iOS project since both use Objective-C and OpenAL. The most prominent reason for not doing that is that I'm not comfortable buying a MacBook and spending big money on a developer account just yet, and XCode is really the way to go for Objective-C. Doing something in C++ would mostly remove the requirement for XCode, which is a good thing to me as I'd like to unify the development process as much as possible. Still, right now I'm leaning towards using Java since I already have a skeleton engine set up in that language and because it's so easy to debug code on the JVM. My only problem is with the ease of decompiling. There are solutions, most notably ahead-of-time compiling, but then you lose not only some advantages of the JVM, but also a huge heap of money. :) But then, I also remember how Thomas struggled to find the right language for MOTA and lost valuable time (I'm told there's still no final version 1 for that game?). Clearly you need to bite that bullet some day or be obscured in the fog of indecisiveness. Cheers, Davy -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Draconis Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 17:06 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re:
[Audyssey] Back on list
Hi all, I hope it is safe to resubscribe again at this point. I started receiving enormous amounts of horrible spam around 4 AM this morning where some immature individual with way too much time on their hands impersonated list members including myself. I unsubscribed after removing the first 100 messages or so. I hope things have calmed back down now, and in case anyone has any doubts, the disgusting messages written in my name certainly do not originate from me. Hope this mess can be sorted and the person in question can be dealt with to the greatest possible extent. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Back on list
Hi Philip, Yes, it should be safe to resub to the list. If you receive my status message it explains where we are right now in this situation. I believe we have stopped or at least slowed the spam for the time being and we are keeping an eye on things to make sure our perp doesn't get away with blasting the list like yesterday. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: Hi all, I hope it is safe to resubscribe again at this point. I started receiving enormous amounts of horrible spam around 4 AM this morning where some immature individual with way too much time on their hands impersonated list members including myself. I unsubscribed after removing the first 100 messages or so. I hope things have calmed back down now, and in case anyone has any doubts, the disgusting messages written in my name certainly do not originate from me. Hope this mess can be sorted and the person in question can be dealt with to the greatest possible extent. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
I think it's because the people who make games for the blind don't include video. When I first heard about games for the blind, I imagined a video game where you don't need the video part, but it's there. Like a mainstream game that sighted people play that also has accessible features. So sighted games leave blind people out, but blind games leave sighted people out. Some games are in between; they are video games, but have a lot of audio cues. So they're upset because the happy medium is hardly ever reached. Tyler Z On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 14:57:15 -0700, Bryan Peterson wrote: Probably because they have no life and can think of nothing better to do with their time. That and they're just perverted. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! -Original Message- From: loriduncan Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 2:49 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Why do they like doing it though, it doesn't make sense to me at all. -Original Message- From: Ulysses Garcia Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages I know someone from the playroom who had similar mannerisms. I forgot his user name, but he said he was Steve and he was forty--two. He liked crashing everyone's screen readers. On 12/15/2013 1:00 PM, Sky Mundell wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man who tried to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago? -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Sopme folk are just criminals. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Hi Lisa, The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/ Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games
This bears a striking resemblance to the behavior of someone on a couple of other lists that goes on for a couple of days, then is squashed. My advice, ignore it, don't leave the list, don't respond, even when he begins threatening people or trying to slag their good names. He's mentally ill and this is just a manifestation of that illness. Hopefully he'll get a new prescription or help of some sort. I can't even find it in my heart to wish him ill. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 2:01 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games Leaving the list is giving in to the scum whose doing this. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games This kind of stuff is probably due to one individual, so I wouldn't leave the list because of it. It would only encourage the perpetrator of such childishness. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games Yeah, Honestly I think this probably is going to about do it for me as well. I've about had it with the foolishness here of late. Anyway, happy holidays All! Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Dec 14, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com wrote: Sigh really? And people wonder why I hate this list. Glad to see people are adult enough to impersonate other list members. On 12/14/13, Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com wrote: I am a big fan of mainstream games. There are plenty of home-made gay games out there. But there are none for us blind people! Thomas and I now are husbands, and we fuck each other daily. But I am a REALLY horny guy, and Thomas's ass is sore from my constant pounding. So I need to virtually penetrate him. I would like to share this experience with you all for $200. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games
hi chris what is it some kind of torettes syndrome or and ADHD combination? Sent from my iPad On 15 Dec 2013, at 22:23, Christopher Bartlett atouchofrevere...@gmail.com wrote: This bears a striking resemblance to the behavior of someone on a couple of other lists that goes on for a couple of days, then is squashed. My advice, ignore it, don't leave the list, don't respond, even when he begins threatening people or trying to slag their good names. He's mentally ill and this is just a manifestation of that illness. Hopefully he'll get a new prescription or help of some sort. I can't even find it in my heart to wish him ill. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 2:01 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games Leaving the list is giving in to the scum whose doing this. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games This kind of stuff is probably due to one individual, so I wouldn't leave the list because of it. It would only encourage the perpetrator of such childishness. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games
The slight worry I have is that, because some of the emails appeared to come from known members, I opened a few and one said that if you open this one you will get a virus on your computer. will this happen? I didn't open any more once I relised that the emails were spam? Amanda -- From: Christopher Bartlett atouchofrevere...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:23 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games This bears a striking resemblance to the behavior of someone on a couple of other lists that goes on for a couple of days, then is squashed. My advice, ignore it, don't leave the list, don't respond, even when he begins threatening people or trying to slag their good names. He's mentally ill and this is just a manifestation of that illness. Hopefully he'll get a new prescription or help of some sort. I can't even find it in my heart to wish him ill. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 2:01 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games Leaving the list is giving in to the scum whose doing this. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games This kind of stuff is probably due to one individual, so I wouldn't leave the list because of it. It would only encourage the perpetrator of such childishness. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games Yeah, Honestly I think this probably is going to about do it for me as well. I've about had it with the foolishness here of late. Anyway, happy holidays All! Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Dec 14, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com wrote: Sigh really? And people wonder why I hate this list. Glad to see people are adult enough to impersonate other list members. On 12/14/13, Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com wrote: I am a big fan of mainstream games. There are plenty of home-made gay games out there. But there are none for us blind people! Thomas and I now are husbands, and we fuck each other daily. But I am a REALLY horny guy, and Thomas's ass is sore from my constant pounding. So I need to virtually penetrate him. I would like to share this experience with you all for $200. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
You're probably right ihave my own suspicions as to who it is, but i'm not saying except in a private note to thomas, i can't affor the liable suite, grin. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Sky Mundell s...@shaw.ca To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man who tried to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago? -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Sopme folk are just criminals. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Hi Lisa, The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/ Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
It really depends. Some people do indeed get hooked because they believe a game has replay value. Then of course you do have the other sort. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters In my opinion, they didn’t get addicted to them because they have a lot of replay value. They got addicted to them because those folks had little or no self-control. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Dec 15, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote: Exactly, I enjoyed playing games like that but because my attention was distracted elsewhere, I never got addicted to those games, though I know a few who have and they say because it has a lot of replay value. On 12/15/2013 12:22 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: The decisions you make in life should not be based on those you make in a violent game. If you cannot separate the two, you shouldn't be playing the games. That's where self control and or supervision at a young impressionable age are necessary. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters I don’t think games have to be about killing people. Killing monsters and zombies is fine. :) Or you could make it somewhat abstract and have to react to something in a split second. Change reaction comes to mind. It has some elements of both a puzzle and a shooter. I play that game quite a bit, too. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Dec 15, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote: I am not sure how the genre of games are classified, but I do know one thing for certain, there has been a lot of controversy about violence and stuff like that over games like this, and in my previous research I discovered that the long you are exposed to it, the more hard-wired it is going to be in your brain. Also, there is an upside to this. It allows you to increase and boost your decision-making mechanisms. On a television news cast I watched one day they discovered that people who played these kinds of games had shorter reacting time to real-life threats. In conclusion, violent games should not be played to any extreme that it will force your attitudes to change, but should be played at a level of moderation. On 12/15/2013 10:49 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: This topic has come up on another thread, and it jogged my memory of seeing an interesting article while looking at some other things. I find this fascinating. http://tinyurl.com/FirstPersonPsych Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list,
Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
If this is who I think it is, and it is a similar enough modus operandi to be likely, he is mentally ill. Please be kind, even though you have suffered some annoyance, and in the cases of the people he has impersonated possible actual harm, since the messages are now forever and findable on the Internet, I think he's a sick individual and needs compassion rather than scathing rage. Of course if it's someone else, then feed him his genitals for all I care. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:26 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. I agree, and the same goes for those stupid hackers and cheaters on Swamp and other games. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely. Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad of an idea, either. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. Hello Lori, It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list. cheers! On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Whoever it is should be banned from using the list. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
This is an interesting point, actually. Can the messages be removed from the archives? I would not particularly enjoy having these things found when doing a Google search for my name. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett atouchofrevere...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. If this is who I think it is, and it is a similar enough modus operandi to be likely, he is mentally ill. Please be kind, even though you have suffered some annoyance, and in the cases of the people he has impersonated possible actual harm, since the messages are now forever and findable on the Internet, I think he's a sick individual and needs compassion rather than scathing rage. Of course if it's someone else, then feed him his genitals for all I care. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:26 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. I agree, and the same goes for those stupid hackers and cheaters on Swamp and other games. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely. Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad of an idea, either. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. Hello Lori, It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list. cheers! On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Whoever it is should be banned from using the list. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
Hi Chris, lol that last line of your email sent me into fits laughing, I hardly ever fly into rages, but hackers spammers and cheaters really make me mad. -Original Message- From: Christopher Bartlett Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:52 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. If this is who I think it is, and it is a similar enough modus operandi to be likely, he is mentally ill. Please be kind, even though you have suffered some annoyance, and in the cases of the people he has impersonated possible actual harm, since the messages are now forever and findable on the Internet, I think he's a sick individual and needs compassion rather than scathing rage. Of course if it's someone else, then feed him his genitals for all I care. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:26 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. I agree, and the same goes for those stupid hackers and cheaters on Swamp and other games. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely. Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad of an idea, either. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. Hello Lori, It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list. cheers! On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Whoever it is should be banned from using the list. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
Hi Philip, isn't there a program you can run which automatically removes spam before it can reach the list? Maybe it could be re-directed to bounce back to the owner? From Lori. -Original Message- From: Philip Bennefall Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:57 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. This is an interesting point, actually. Can the messages be removed from the archives? I would not particularly enjoy having these things found when doing a Google search for my name. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett atouchofrevere...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. If this is who I think it is, and it is a similar enough modus operandi to be likely, he is mentally ill. Please be kind, even though you have suffered some annoyance, and in the cases of the people he has impersonated possible actual harm, since the messages are now forever and findable on the Internet, I think he's a sick individual and needs compassion rather than scathing rage. Of course if it's someone else, then feed him his genitals for all I care. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:26 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. I agree, and the same goes for those stupid hackers and cheaters on Swamp and other games. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely. Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad of an idea, either. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. Hello Lori, It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list. cheers! On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Whoever it is should be banned from using the list. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to
[Audyssey] Did you play the wave of text adventures released in late September?
Hello! Did any of you play the text adventures in the IF Comp this year? http://www.ifcomp.org/comp13 Tyler Z --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
Hi Philip, Yes, they can, but it will take a bit of work. It will require grabbing the archive file, and manually deleting them from the archives and then replacing the archives with the edited ones. It is possible to do and I was strongly considering something like this anyway. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: This is an interesting point, actually. Can the messages be removed from the archives? I would not particularly enjoy having these things found when doing a Google search for my name. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
Hi Lori, The spam wasn't actually sent from the email accounts from which it seemed to originate. The email addresses were set correctly, but the SMTP server of the sender is entirely different from mine and this is how they can potentially be traced. So there is nothing that I can do locally to prevent my name from being used, unfortunately. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 12:03 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. Hi Philip, isn't there a program you can run which automatically removes spam before it can reach the list? Maybe it could be re-directed to bounce back to the owner? From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
Great to know, Thomas. I, and I'm sure the other people who's names were used, would appreciate that. I imagine a regular expression could be used to speed up the procedure considerably. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. Hi Philip, Yes, they can, but it will take a bit of work. It will require grabbing the archive file, and manually deleting them from the archives and then replacing the archives with the edited ones. It is possible to do and I was strongly considering something like this anyway. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games
Hi Amanda, No. None of the messages were infected with viruses. We have Mailman configured to strip attachments, and remove any potential infected files before reaching the list. It was just the perp's way of messing with your head, scaring you, and taking advantage of your lack of knowledge about the security we have in place regarding viruses and other malware. Cheers! On 12/15/13, amanda burt aburt...@btinternet.com wrote: The slight worry I have is that, because some of the emails appeared to come from known members, I opened a few and one said that if you open this one you will get a virus on your computer. will this happen? I didn't open any more once I relised that the emails were spam? Amanda --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator List Status
Thanks to you and anyone else that takes the time to fix these issues! We are most grateful for all that you all do to keep us safe so that we can enjoy this list. Now lets get back to gaming! -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 4:52 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator List Status Hello List, As all of you or at least most of you know by now yesterday around 4:00 PM Eastern Standard Time an unnamed perpetrator/perpetrators began sending various sexually explicit messages disguised as legitimate list members to the list. Along with the sexually explicit messages they also decided to fake a number of moderator messages from me saying that the situation was being handled when in fact that was just a smoke screen to mess with everyone's heads. I myself was unaware of the situation until early this morning after I woke up and had breakfast. Fortunately though, one of my administrators from my webhost was subscribed to the list and was able to take immediate action once the spam began poring in. He filed an emergency ticket, and around 10:41 PM last night we got word back that Linode had cut off all out going mail to this list. So what does that mean for the status of the list? At this point we think we have stopped or at least slowed the source of the spam for the time being. If spam continues to flood in to this list we will take immediate action and put the entire list on moderated status until such time that the spam is stopped for good. However, as no new spam has come in since late last night we think we have stopped the spam for the time being and moderating the list is not necessary at this time. However, rest assured we have people monitoring the situation to see if there is any renewed spam attacks. As for the perpetrator or perpetrators there is a lot of speculation as to the individuals involved, and we are following up all leads and information as we have it. All I can say at this time is we don't know who is behind the attacks yet, but I expect to know more once we have a chance to look at the logs and follow the e-mails back to their source if we can. There are talented people working on the issue, and all we can do right now is wait and see what they come up with. In the mean time let us get back to gaming, and hope things are taken care of. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List gamers-ow...@audyssey.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games
I am intending on newer methods of mental illness that are more comprehensive, more effective and naturopathic than the ones pharmaceutical companies claim they do. http://sensationexperience.wordpress.com/ On 12/15/2013 2:37 PM, amanda burt wrote: The slight worry I have is that, because some of the emails appeared to come from known members, I opened a few and one said that if you open this one you will get a virus on your computer. will this happen? I didn't open any more once I relised that the emails were spam? Amanda -- From: Christopher Bartlett atouchofrevere...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:23 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games This bears a striking resemblance to the behavior of someone on a couple of other lists that goes on for a couple of days, then is squashed. My advice, ignore it, don't leave the list, don't respond, even when he begins threatening people or trying to slag their good names. He's mentally ill and this is just a manifestation of that illness. Hopefully he'll get a new prescription or help of some sort. I can't even find it in my heart to wish him ill. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 2:01 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games Leaving the list is giving in to the scum whose doing this. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games This kind of stuff is probably due to one individual, so I wouldn't leave the list because of it. It would only encourage the perpetrator of such childishness. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games Yeah, Honestly I think this probably is going to about do it for me as well. I've about had it with the foolishness here of late. Anyway, happy holidays All! Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Dec 14, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com wrote: Sigh really? And people wonder why I hate this list. Glad to see people are adult enough to impersonate other list members. On 12/14/13, Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com wrote: I am a big fan of mainstream games. There are plenty of home-made gay games out there. But there are none for us blind people! Thomas and I now are husbands, and we fuck each other daily. But I am a REALLY horny guy, and Thomas's ass is sore from my constant pounding. So I need to virtually penetrate him. I would like to share this experience with you all for $200. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator List Status
I second this message thank the gaming gods for thomasss, the real thomas, Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator List Status Thanks to you and anyone else that takes the time to fix these issues! We are most grateful for all that you all do to keep us safe so that we can enjoy this list. Now lets get back to gaming! -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 4:52 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator List Status Hello List, As all of you or at least most of you know by now yesterday around 4:00 PM Eastern Standard Time an unnamed perpetrator/perpetrators began sending various sexually explicit messages disguised as legitimate list members to the list. Along with the sexually explicit messages they also decided to fake a number of moderator messages from me saying that the situation was being handled when in fact that was just a smoke screen to mess with everyone's heads. I myself was unaware of the situation until early this morning after I woke up and had breakfast. Fortunately though, one of my administrators from my webhost was subscribed to the list and was able to take immediate action once the spam began poring in. He filed an emergency ticket, and around 10:41 PM last night we got word back that Linode had cut off all out going mail to this list. So what does that mean for the status of the list? At this point we think we have stopped or at least slowed the source of the spam for the time being. If spam continues to flood in to this list we will take immediate action and put the entire list on moderated status until such time that the spam is stopped for good. However, as no new spam has come in since late last night we think we have stopped the spam for the time being and moderating the list is not necessary at this time. However, rest assured we have people monitoring the situation to see if there is any renewed spam attacks. As for the perpetrator or perpetrators there is a lot of speculation as to the individuals involved, and we are following up all leads and information as we have it. All I can say at this time is we don't know who is behind the attacks yet, but I expect to know more once we have a chance to look at the logs and follow the e-mails back to their source if we can. There are talented people working on the issue, and all we can do right now is wait and see what they come up with. In the mean time let us get back to gaming, and hope things are taken care of. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List gamers-ow...@audyssey.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The future of mobile accessible gaming, was: : mac versus windows
Well secret of Mana I know very well. As a teenager I combined playing cooperatively and watching a sighted friend of mine, (since I could see most of the characters providing they weren't in a zone with low contrast). There are several interesting points about the mobile version of secret of Mana however. For example, the combat mechanics while exactly the same as the snes use the touch screen capability to target a given monster for physical attacks just as with spells. So you move your character around with one finger, and use a second to target a monster for your character and for the other two to attack. I could actually imagine an accessible game similar to secret of mana from a first person perspective with your allies Ai controled, though of course the enviornments, sounds for all the monsters and massive massive massive! amount of area programming would be the big problem since just on a basic walking level Secret of Mana makes Shades of Doom look like wandering around a student bedsit! In terms of health and mana however, while I agree with you that a game like a mud with a huge amount of statistics to monitor, health, mana, staminer, experience split between many levels, number of practices etc would be a problem, since a game like Secret of Mana just has essentially two basic statistics I don't think a single on screen button or specific gesture to read mana and health would be too tortuous. papasangre 2 if not using the gyroscope has five separate on screen controls, two feet and hands and the cumpass slider, and that causes no trouble. I could imagine an rpg game with a walk forward button bottom center (no need for the two feet mechanics of Papasangre), a cumpass for turning above it, an attack button in the bottom right corner, a spell casting button just above it in the middle right, a speak status buttton in the bottom left hand corner and a status menue in the top left corner for changing out currently active spell etc. Heck, you could even reduce this down by having a control with different interaction methods, say tapping the status button once spoke your health and mana, while tapping and holding bought up the pause menue to change spells and weapons etc. While I do takee your point about limited keys, it'd after all be nearly impossible to do something like swamp without a pc keyboard (I think Swamp uses every keyboard key there is), if the games interface is designed correctly for it I wouldn't say the Iphone is specifically limited by laack of controls, it's just different and needs a different design approach, eg, having both mana and hp spoken on one key rather than having two separate ones as you would on a pc. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
What a good idea and destroy their net access in the process really give them some curry to deal with. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. Hi Philip, isn't there a program you can run which automatically removes spam before it can reach the list? Maybe it could be re-directed to bounce back to the owner? From Lori. -Original Message- From: Philip Bennefall Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:57 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. This is an interesting point, actually. Can the messages be removed from the archives? I would not particularly enjoy having these things found when doing a Google search for my name. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett atouchofrevere...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. If this is who I think it is, and it is a similar enough modus operandi to be likely, he is mentally ill. Please be kind, even though you have suffered some annoyance, and in the cases of the people he has impersonated possible actual harm, since the messages are now forever and findable on the Internet, I think he's a sick individual and needs compassion rather than scathing rage. Of course if it's someone else, then feed him his genitals for all I care. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:26 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. I agree, and the same goes for those stupid hackers and cheaters on Swamp and other games. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely. Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad of an idea, either. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider. Hello Lori, It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list. cheers! On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Whoever it is should be banned from using the list. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your
