subject:"\[Audyssey\] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released\!"

best regards
dallas

On 20/12/2011 22:47, Shard Workshop wrote:

As soon as the patch will be ready, it will freely downloadable from http:
www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight for anyone who bought the game. The ones
with the demo will just need to re download it.

On the compass matter, everyone may be right. We know that 0 North is
something a lot of you are used, but we're receiving also positive review
from people who like 90 North, so it's probably a matter of preference!

As for some of the flying tricks, you are right, Zero Sight is not a
perfect simulator, but we HAD to relax some realistic aspects to gran a bit
of playability. Anyway, when you shut your engines a real plan does not
fall like an anvil or like wile e. coyote :D. You have momentum, so you'll
still be flying a bit forward.

As for Mario, yes using the official forum would be really the best thing :D

We are glad that you all like the game people, Keep flying and spread the
word!!

2011/12/20 Mariom...@tiscali.it

hi,

Lorenzo wrote:

If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
thread,
http://www.shardworkshop.com/**forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

I think that you can use also this thread.

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-20 Thread shaun everiss


yes this is one of the places.
The audiogames.net forum is another to.
Its got more people on it but then it doesn't matter where you post 
your bugs to, a lot of people on here are in the forum including me, 
though I don't post often.

At 11:24 p.m. 19/12/2011 +0100, you wrote:

Hi all.
Is this a right place where to report Zerosight bugs and suggestions?
Thanks a lot.
Gabriele.

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-20 Thread Shard Workshop

Actually, the right place is the thread in the official forum:
http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

2011/12/20 shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com

yes this is one of the places.
The audiogames.net forum is another to.
Its got more people on it but then it doesn't matter where you post your
bugs to, a lot of people on here are in the forum including me, though I
don't post often.

At 11:24 p.m. 19/12/2011 +0100, you wrote:

Hi all.
Is this a right place where to report Zerosight bugs and suggestions?
Thanks a lot.
Gabriele.

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-20 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Dallas,

He is using the Cartesian system of angles for direction in Zero
Sight. It makes sense if we are talking Geometry or some higher level
math like that, but most people use the Bearing system when referring
to north, south, east, and west directions in day to day life. North
is (0, 0, 0) and south is (1, 8, 0) in the Bearing system, but in a
Cartesian system (0, 0, 0) is east, and (1, 8, 0) is west.Its easier
from a mathematical point of view to calculate angles when 0 is at a
right angle.

Cheers!


On 12/20/11, Dallas O'Brien dallas-obr...@bigpond.com wrote:
 far enough. perhaps an idea with the navigation would be to have it as a
 toggle, so you can choose which system you prefer?
 if i may ask, where does the current system of direction come from? so
 as i may understand it a little better.
 best regards
 dallas


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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

ahh, ok. interesting way of doing things in a flight sim, as what do 
pilots have in front of them? ... a compass. all plains have one. 
actually, they have several. lol.

let alone gps systems, which work on compass headings.
i think at the very least, a toggle could be used to switch between that 
and compass bearings, but perhaps i am to used to actual flight controls.
but also, as has been pointed out, its what most people use in day to 
day usage, so it would be easier for them to understand compass bearings.

dallas


On 21/12/2011 06:40, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Dallas,

He is using the Cartesian system of angles for direction in Zero
Sight. It makes sense if we are talking Geometry or some higher level
math like that, but most people use the Bearing system when referring
to north, south, east, and west directions in day to day life. North
is (0, 0, 0) and south is (1, 8, 0) in the Bearing system, but in a
Cartesian system (0, 0, 0) is east, and (1, 8, 0) is west.Its easier
from a mathematical point of view to calculate angles when 0 is at a
right angle.

Cheers!


On 12/20/11, Dallas O'Briendallas-obr...@bigpond.com  wrote:

far enough. perhaps an idea with the navigation would be to have it as a
toggle, so you can choose which system you prefer?
if i may ask, where does the current system of direction come from? so
as i may understand it a little better.
best regards
dallas


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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-20 Thread Charles Rivard

Ah.  Patch 2?  Heh heh heh.

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Don't worry guys, we actually listen to the community and we're working on
a toggle ;)

2011/12/20 Dallas O'Brien dallas-obr...@bigpond.com

ahh, ok. interesting way of doing things in a flight sim, as what do
pilots have in front of them? ... a compass. all plains have one. 
actually,

they have several. lol.
let alone gps systems, which work on compass headings.
i think at the very least, a toggle could be used to switch between that
and compass bearings, but perhaps i am to used to actual flight controls.
but also, as has been pointed out, its what most people use in day to day
usage, so it would be easier for them to understand compass bearings.
dallas

On 21/12/2011 06:40, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Dallas,

He is using the Cartesian system of angles for direction in Zero
Sight. It makes sense if we are talking Geometry or some higher level
math like that, but most people use the Bearing system when referring
to north, south, east, and west directions in day to day life. North
is (0, 0, 0) and south is (1, 8, 0) in the Bearing system, but in a
Cartesian system (0, 0, 0) is east, and (1, 8, 0) is west.Its easier
from a mathematical point of view to calculate angles when 0 is at a
right angle.

Cheers!

On 12/20/11, Dallas 
O'Briendallas-obrien@bigpond.**comdallas-obr...@bigpond.com

 wrote:

far enough. perhaps an idea with the navigation would be to have it as 
a

toggle, so you can choose which system you prefer?
if i may ask, where does the current system of direction come from? so
as i may understand it a little better.
best regards
dallas

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

anyway, thought i would throw that idea out for you to decide on.
best regards
dallas

On 21/12/2011 07:42, Shard Workshop wrote:

Don't worry guys, we actually listen to the community and we're working on
a toggle ;)

2011/12/20 Dallas O'Briendallas-obr...@bigpond.com

ahh, ok. interesting way of doing things in a flight sim, as what do
pilots have in front of them? ... a compass. all plains have one. actually,
they have several. lol.
let alone gps systems, which work on compass headings.
i think at the very least, a toggle could be used to switch between that
and compass bearings, but perhaps i am to used to actual flight controls.
but also, as has been pointed out, its what most people use in day to day
usage, so it would be easier for them to understand compass bearings.
dallas

On 21/12/2011 06:40, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Dallas,

Cheers!

On 12/20/11, Dallas
O'Briendallas-obrien@bigpond.**comdallas-obr...@bigpond.com
wrote:

far enough. perhaps an idea with the navigation would be to have it as a
toggle, so you can choose which system you prefer?
if i may ask, where does the current system of direction come from? so
as i may understand it a little better.
best regards
dallas

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-20 Thread dark

I remember doing angles that way in maths, and it does indeed make more 
sense, but I'm less convinced that it's used in military forces, I would've 
thought they either just use either the usual eight cumpus directions, or 
360 degrees with zero for north.


I'm getting used to it slowly though, it's just harder to remember where 
northeast southwest etc are.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
I'm getting used to it at the moment though.
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Hi Dallas,

He is using the Cartesian system of angles for direction in Zero
Sight. It makes sense if we are talking Geometry or some higher level
math like that, but most people use the Bearing system when referring
to north, south, east, and west directions in day to day life. North
is (0, 0, 0) and south is (1, 8, 0) in the Bearing system, but in a
Cartesian system (0, 0, 0) is east, and (1, 8, 0) is west.Its easier
from a mathematical point of view to calculate angles when 0 is at a
right angle.

Cheers!


On 12/20/11, Dallas O'Brien dallas-obr...@bigpond.com wrote:

far enough. perhaps an idea with the navigation would be to have it as a
toggle, so you can choose which system you prefer?
if i may ask, where does the current system of direction come from? so
as i may understand it a little better.
best regards
dallas



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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-20 Thread Phil Vlasak


Hi Folks,
Actually the GMA game engine also uses 0 degrees for east in doing 
calculations, and the program converts it to 0 degrees north for saying the 
results.

I found this info on google:
ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.../19760066521_1976066521.pdf
Directions are:
0 degrees for North polar, and 180 degrees for South polar.
While inflight . The
alternate landing site is an active military air base or has the 
capabilities and

resources ...


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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-20 Thread dark


Hi phil.

wow, that about the Gma engine is logical, but must've been a nightmare to 
keep track of.


thanks for clearing this up.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:34 PM
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Hi Folks,
Actually the GMA game engine also uses 0 degrees for east in doing 
calculations, and the program converts it to 0 degrees north for saying 
the results.

I found this info on google:
ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.../19760066521_1976066521.pdf
Directions are:
0 degrees for North polar, and 180 degrees for South polar.
While inflight . The
alternate landing site is an active military air base or has the 
capabilities and

resources ...


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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-20 Thread Phil Vlasak


Hi Dark,
The only time the Cartesian direction degrees comes into play is when 
teleporting a player or other creature to a new location.

Then you have to specify 0 if facing east.
Phil

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Hi phil.

wow, that about the Gma engine is logical, but must've been a nightmare to 
keep track of.


thanks for clearing this up.

Beware the grue!

Dark.



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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!


yes, military use the 360 degrees, which is based on the compass bearings.
dallas


On 21/12/2011 09:22, dark wrote:
I remember doing angles that way in maths, and it does indeed make 
more sense, but I'm less convinced that it's used in military forces, 
I would've thought they either just use either the usual eight cumpus 
directions, or 360 degrees with zero for north.


I'm getting used to it slowly though, it's just harder to remember 
where northeast southwest etc are.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
I'm getting used to it at the moment though.
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thomasward1...@gmail.com

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Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!



Hi Dallas,

He is using the Cartesian system of angles for direction in Zero
Sight. It makes sense if we are talking Geometry or some higher level
math like that, but most people use the Bearing system when referring
to north, south, east, and west directions in day to day life. North
is (0, 0, 0) and south is (1, 8, 0) in the Bearing system, but in a
Cartesian system (0, 0, 0) is east, and (1, 8, 0) is west.Its easier
from a mathematical point of view to calculate angles when 0 is at a
right angle.

Cheers!


On 12/20/11, Dallas O'Brien dallas-obr...@bigpond.com wrote:
far enough. perhaps an idea with the navigation would be to have it 
as a

toggle, so you can choose which system you prefer?
if i may ask, where does the current system of direction come from? so
as i may understand it a little better.
best regards
dallas



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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-20 Thread dark


Ah, that's not so bad.

I had nasty visions of you having to mark out patrol routes for enemies or 
the like in it which would be horrible,  or at least it sounds that way 
to someone with my spacial awareness or lack there of.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Hi Dark,
The only time the Cartesian direction degrees comes into play is when 
teleporting a player or other creature to a new location.

Then you have to specify 0 if facing east.
Phil

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Hi phil.

wow, that about the Gma engine is logical, but must've been a nightmare 
to keep track of.


thanks for clearing this up.

Beware the grue!

Dark.



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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

This is something we are considering right now, thanks anyway for the nice
suggestion!

2011/12/19 Reinhard Stebner raydar11...@yahoo.com

 Do you know if you will ever add mouse support? I think mouse support would
 give finer control of the airplane and there are several audio games using
 this type of control as well.
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 Great!

 2011/12/19 Ian McNamara ianandri...@googlemail.com

  Hi yep will give it a try when i can not normely the kind of game i'm
 good
  at but really think i'll give the demmo a try then if i like it concidder
  buying it.
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

The reference system is based on the Cartesian coordinate system, that's
why 0 is East. I'm sure you great pilots will get used to it in a flight or
two ;)

2011/12/19 Dallas O'Brien dallas-obr...@bigpond.com

yeah. its looking good. one idea though, for the developer. would it be
possible to set the directions, as compass directions? as its quite
disorienting to have degrees that don't match up to compass headings. like,
0 being north, not east, 90 being east, 180 being south, and 270 being west?
this would be a lot easier for those of us used to working with such
directions from other devices and games.
Dallas

On 19/12/2011 13:49, Ron Kolesar wrote:

For my fellow blind pilot love to be.
I've already down loaded the demo.
Man do we have a lot to learn. SMILES.
I think the best thing for us to do is to write some Braille reminders of
the shortcut keystrokes and their functions so that we can at least get off
of the ground. SMILES.
So that's my opinion of the new hand to ear flight simulator at this time.

-Original Message- From: Shard Workshop
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:01 PM
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Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its
real
initiation in the world of audiogaming.

Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
has been released just now.

You can find all the details at
http://www.shardworkshop.com/**zero-sighthttp://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to be
100% that it works on your machine.

If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
thread,
http://www.shardworkshop.com/**forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
audiogames that will really change the way you play.

Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

We are considering this too. Thank you!

@EVERYBODY
Sorry for flooding your mails. What do you guys and gals do when you have
to answer 5 or 6 mail in the same topic? Do you answer with single mails to
the single person or with a big mail full of @xxx @yyy ?
Thanks ;)

2011/12/19 Alfredo_The_Music_maker birdlover2...@hotmail.com

Hello,
Is there a way to turn down the background main menu music? Some of the
information being displayed is a little hard for me to understand. I hope
that the game will continue to improve steadily with each update.
Alfredo

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-19 Thread Tom Randall

Hi everyone.

This is fantastic news, I will definitely be checking this demo out as time 
allows.

Thanks for the update.

Game on.

Tom

On Dec 18, 2011, at 4:01 PM, Shard Workshop wrote:

 Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its real
 initiation in the world of audiogaming.
 
 Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
 has been released just now.
 
 You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight
 
 We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to be
 100% that it works on your machine.
 
 If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
 thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50
 
 We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
 audiogames that will really change the way you play.
 
 Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-19 Thread Lukáš Kakara

It is very good game,hmm,but I have a problem.When I take off,I fly 
around for a while.But when I want to land and press F3,the game will 
not reaction and error log file is in my game folder.Have ever the 
same?Thank you.


Lukáš Kakara

Dne 19.12.2011 15:42, Tom Randall napsal(a):

Hi everyone.

This is fantastic news, I will definitely be checking this demo out as time 
allows.

Thanks for the update.

Game on.

Tom

On Dec 18, 2011, at 4:01 PM, Shard Workshop wrote:


  Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its real
  initiation in the world of audiogaming.

  Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
  has been released just now.

  You can find all the details athttp://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

  We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to be
  100% that it works on your machine.

  If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
  thread,http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

  We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
  audiogames that will really change the way you play.

  Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...

  Good luck, pilots.. and let us know what you think.
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

The z key only tells you th altitude, it doesn't really change it. Keep
trying!
In the demo map there is only one aircraft, and is to the North compared to
your position.
The main differences between the demo and the full release is that in the
full release you get to play 8 missions with briefing and objectives, 8 map
(of which one is completely random generated, that is, is different every
time you play it) in which you can do whatever you want (much like the demo
map, but with a lot of enemy airports genating air and land traffic),
you'll be able to use all the four missiles and customize the cargo of your
aircraft.

2011/12/19 william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com

 when i take off can't seem to climb pressing down arrow is sending my nose
 up i know that, but i can't get the z key to make altitude climb. also i
 just seem to be flying around aimlessly in the free flight mode is this
 where no enemies are concerned?
 what will be the difference between option 2, map mode, and option 3, free
 flight, if i buy the game?
 also the overlapping announcements are confusing to be honest.

 On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:02 AM, Ron Kolesar wrote:

  I too would appreciate that.
  I was always taught the following.
  Look at a clock. Each number of the clock equaled thirty degrees. But
 both either 0 and or 360 was north.
  090 degrees with east.
  180 was south, and 270 degrees was west.
  One other recommendation
  Any chance of writing in USB game pad and or USB flight yoke support
 into the game.
  I think this would be easier than trying to remember all of the keyboard
 commands.
  Just a thought to make the new sim as close to realistic as possible.
  Ron and trusty four pawed copilot/first officer Leader Dog Boz.
 
  -Original Message- From: Dallas O'Brien
  Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 10:55 PM
  To: Gamers Discussion list
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!
 
  yeah. its looking good. one idea though, for the developer. would it be
  possible to set the directions, as compass directions? as its quite
  disorienting to have degrees that don't match up to compass headings.
  like, 0 being north, not east, 90 being east, 180 being south, and 270
  being west?
  this would be a lot easier for those of us used to working with such
  directions from other devices and games.
  Dallas
 
 
  On 19/12/2011 13:49, Ron Kolesar wrote:
  For my fellow blind pilot love to be.
  I've already down loaded the demo.
  Man do we have a lot to learn. SMILES.
  I think the best thing for us to do is to write some Braille reminders
 of the shortcut keystrokes and their functions so that we can at least get
 off of the ground. SMILES.
  So that's my opinion of the new hand to ear flight simulator at this
 time.
 
  -Original Message- From: Shard Workshop
  Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:01 PM
  To: Gamers Discussion list
  Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!
 
  Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its
 real
  initiation in the world of audiogaming.
 
  Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
  has been released just now.
 
  You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight
 
  We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to
 be
  100% that it works on your machine.
 
  If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
  thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50
 
  We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
  audiogames that will really change the way you play.
 
  Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...
 
  Good luck, pilots.. and let us know what you think.
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

The first patch will add the shortcuts! And who is downloading now should
yet have them.
Thanks for the feedback!

2011/12/19 Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

 Hi Lorenzo,
 Perhaps you might consider adding the manual to the program group? That
 tends to be the standard. And I just sent an eMail regarding my order:
 ignore it. It seems as if my download got sent before the confirmation
 eMail...lol

 Best Regards,
 Hayden


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 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
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 Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:24 PM
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 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

 It is in the game folder. The default is c:\program files\shard
 workshop\zero sight.

 2011/12/19 Reinhard Stebner raydar11...@yahoo.com

  I am looking for the manual and I am unable to find it. I cannot find it
 on
  the website for in the program group in the start menu.
  -Original Message-
  From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Shard Workshop
  Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:02 PM
  To: Gamers Discussion list
  Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!
 
  Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its
 real
  initiation in the world of audiogaming.
 
  Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
  has been released just now.
 
  You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight
 
  We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to be
  100% that it works on your machine.
 
  If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
  thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50
 
  We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
  audiogames that will really change the way you play.
 
  Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...
 
  Good luck, pilots.. and let us know what you think.
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-19 Thread dan cook

ah, that might explain why my download link isn't actually downloading
anything as of yet.
Honestly, I'm really looking forward to experiencing the full game.

On 12/19/11, Shard Workshop shardworks...@gmail.com wrote:
 The z key only tells you th altitude, it doesn't really change it. Keep
 trying!
 In the demo map there is only one aircraft, and is to the North compared to
 your position.
 The main differences between the demo and the full release is that in the
 full release you get to play 8 missions with briefing and objectives, 8 map
 (of which one is completely random generated, that is, is different every
 time you play it) in which you can do whatever you want (much like the demo
 map, but with a lot of enemy airports genating air and land traffic),
 you'll be able to use all the four missiles and customize the cargo of your
 aircraft.

 2011/12/19 william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com

 when i take off can't seem to climb pressing down arrow is sending my nose
 up i know that, but i can't get the z key to make altitude climb. also i
 just seem to be flying around aimlessly in the free flight mode is this
 where no enemies are concerned?
 what will be the difference between option 2, map mode, and option 3, free
 flight, if i buy the game?
 also the overlapping announcements are confusing to be honest.

 On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:02 AM, Ron Kolesar wrote:

  I too would appreciate that.
  I was always taught the following.
  Look at a clock. Each number of the clock equaled thirty degrees. But
 both either 0 and or 360 was north.
  090 degrees with east.
  180 was south, and 270 degrees was west.
  One other recommendation
  Any chance of writing in USB game pad and or USB flight yoke support
 into the game.
  I think this would be easier than trying to remember all of the keyboard
 commands.
  Just a thought to make the new sim as close to realistic as possible.
  Ron and trusty four pawed copilot/first officer Leader Dog Boz.
 
  -Original Message- From: Dallas O'Brien
  Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 10:55 PM
  To: Gamers Discussion list
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!
 
  yeah. its looking good. one idea though, for the developer. would it be
  possible to set the directions, as compass directions? as its quite
  disorienting to have degrees that don't match up to compass headings.
  like, 0 being north, not east, 90 being east, 180 being south, and 270
  being west?
  this would be a lot easier for those of us used to working with such
  directions from other devices and games.
  Dallas
 
 
  On 19/12/2011 13:49, Ron Kolesar wrote:
  For my fellow blind pilot love to be.
  I've already down loaded the demo.
  Man do we have a lot to learn. SMILES.
  I think the best thing for us to do is to write some Braille reminders
 of the shortcut keystrokes and their functions so that we can at least get
 off of the ground. SMILES.
  So that's my opinion of the new hand to ear flight simulator at this
 time.
 
  -Original Message- From: Shard Workshop
  Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:01 PM
  To: Gamers Discussion list
  Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!
 
  Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its
 real
  initiation in the world of audiogaming.
 
  Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero
  Sight,
  has been released just now.
 
  You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight
 
  We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to
 be
  100% that it works on your machine.
 
  If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
  thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50
 
  We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
  audiogames that will really change the way you play.
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-19 Thread Charles Rivard

You can do it either way.  By the way, although I've never tried a flight 
simulator or a game of this type, I've heard your trailers and like what I 
hear, so when time allows, I'll start working with the downloaded demo and 
decide whether to buy or not.  Thanks for the opportunity.


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!



We are considering this too. Thank you!

@EVERYBODY
Sorry for flooding your mails. What do you guys and gals do when you have
to answer 5 or 6 mail in the same topic? Do you answer with single mails 
to

the single person or with a big mail full of @xxx @yyy ?
Thanks ;)

2011/12/19 Alfredo_The_Music_maker birdlover2...@hotmail.com


Hello,
Is there a way to turn down the background main menu music? Some of the
information being displayed is a little  hard for me to understand. I 
hope

that the game will continue to improve steadily with each update.
Alfredo


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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-19 Thread Ron Kolesar


So do we need to down load another up dated demo?
I think having the shortcuts will help out.
In this blind pilot's opinion, there just was way way to much to try and 
digest to learn to fly.


Something to think about.
Any chance of having a audio walk through  and for each stip by step from 
the beginning use and show us all of the shortcut keystrokes until you get 
off of the ground.

I'll give this sim another try.
But I hate to say it.
The first try this sim was way way way over this blind pilot's abilitiy.
Also, for the future.
Will there be USB support written into the zero sight sim?
Hope this feedback helps to make a interesting new flight simulator easier 
to fly via we blind pilots and more enjoyable to fly via we blind pilots.



-Original Message- 
From: Shard Workshop

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:52 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

The first patch will add the shortcuts! And who is downloading now should
yet have them.
Thanks for the feedback!

2011/12/19 Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com


Hi Lorenzo,
Perhaps you might consider adding the manual to the program group? That
tends to be the standard. And I just sent an eMail regarding my order:
ignore it. It seems as if my download got sent before the confirmation
eMail...lol

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Shard Workshop
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:24 PM
To: raydar11...@yahoo.com; Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

It is in the game folder. The default is c:\program files\shard
workshop\zero sight.

2011/12/19 Reinhard Stebner raydar11...@yahoo.com

 I am looking for the manual and I am unable to find it. I cannot find it
on
 the website for in the program group in the start menu.
 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]
On
 Behalf Of Shard Workshop
 Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:02 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

 Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its
real
 initiation in the world of audiogaming.

 Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
 has been released just now.

 You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

 We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to 
 be

 100% that it works on your machine.

 If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
 thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

 We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-19 Thread Hayden Presley

Hi Ron,
I think you're over exaggerating the number of keys. It works out to be the
same to TDV, the difference just being that it's all on the keyboard rather
than the status mode.

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:30 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

So do we need to down load another up dated demo?
I think having the shortcuts will help out.
In this blind pilot's opinion, there just was way way to much to try and 
digest to learn to fly.

Something to think about.
Any chance of having a audio walk through  and for each stip by step from 
the beginning use and show us all of the shortcut keystrokes until you get 
off of the ground.
I'll give this sim another try.
But I hate to say it.
The first try this sim was way way way over this blind pilot's abilitiy.
Also, for the future.
Will there be USB support written into the zero sight sim?
Hope this feedback helps to make a interesting new flight simulator easier 
to fly via we blind pilots and more enjoyable to fly via we blind pilots.


-Original Message- 
From: Shard Workshop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:52 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

The first patch will add the shortcuts! And who is downloading now should
yet have them.
Thanks for the feedback!

2011/12/19 Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

 Hi Lorenzo,
 Perhaps you might consider adding the manual to the program group? That
 tends to be the standard. And I just sent an eMail regarding my order:
 ignore it. It seems as if my download got sent before the confirmation
 eMail...lol

 Best Regards,
 Hayden


 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of Shard Workshop
 Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:24 PM
 To: raydar11...@yahoo.com; Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

 It is in the game folder. The default is c:\program files\shard
 workshop\zero sight.

 2011/12/19 Reinhard Stebner raydar11...@yahoo.com

  I am looking for the manual and I am unable to find it. I cannot find it
 on
  the website for in the program group in the start menu.
  -Original Message-
  From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Shard Workshop
  Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:02 PM
  To: Gamers Discussion list
  Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!
 
  Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its
 real
  initiation in the world of audiogaming.
 
  Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
  has been released just now.
 
  You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight
 
  We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to 
  be
  100% that it works on your machine.
 
  If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
  thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50
 
  We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
  audiogames that will really change the way you play.
 
  Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...
 
  Good luck, pilots.. and let us know what you think.
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-19 Thread Charles Rivard

Just thinking out loud, and having never flown a plane or played this demo; 
I wonder how much there is for budding pilots to remember and keep track of? 
Could it be that this demo is more realistic than anything we're used to?


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From: Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!



So do we need to down load another up dated demo?
I think having the shortcuts will help out.
In this blind pilot's opinion, there just was way way to much to try and 
digest to learn to fly.


Something to think about.
Any chance of having a audio walk through  and for each stip by step from 
the beginning use and show us all of the shortcut keystrokes until you get 
off of the ground.

I'll give this sim another try.
But I hate to say it.
The first try this sim was way way way over this blind pilot's abilitiy.
Also, for the future.
Will there be USB support written into the zero sight sim?
Hope this feedback helps to make a interesting new flight simulator easier 
to fly via we blind pilots and more enjoyable to fly via we blind pilots.



-Original Message- 
From: Shard Workshop

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:52 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

The first patch will add the shortcuts! And who is downloading now should
yet have them.
Thanks for the feedback!

2011/12/19 Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com


Hi Lorenzo,
Perhaps you might consider adding the manual to the program group? That
tends to be the standard. And I just sent an eMail regarding my order:
ignore it. It seems as if my download got sent before the confirmation
eMail...lol

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Shard Workshop
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:24 PM
To: raydar11...@yahoo.com; Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

It is in the game folder. The default is c:\program files\shard
workshop\zero sight.

2011/12/19 Reinhard Stebner raydar11...@yahoo.com

 I am looking for the manual and I am unable to find it. I cannot find 
 it

on
 the website for in the program group in the start menu.
 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]
On
 Behalf Of Shard Workshop
 Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:02 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

 Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its
real
 initiation in the world of audiogaming.

 Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero 
 Sight,

 has been released just now.

 You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

 We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to 
 be

 100% that it works on your machine.

 If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
 thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

 We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-19 Thread william lomas

taking off is so easy why is it blind people want complex games but can't cope 
with what we get?
true i struggle to take off on ledmium aand short air strip but taking off on 
long air strips is easy 
manuals are there as someone else said for a good enough reason 

On Dec 19, 2011, at 10:29 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:

 So do we need to down load another up dated demo?
 I think having the shortcuts will help out.
 In this blind pilot's opinion, there just was way way to much to try and 
 digest to learn to fly.
 
 Something to think about.
 Any chance of having a audio walk through  and for each stip by step from the 
 beginning use and show us all of the shortcut keystrokes until you get off of 
 the ground.
 I'll give this sim another try.
 But I hate to say it.
 The first try this sim was way way way over this blind pilot's abilitiy.
 Also, for the future.
 Will there be USB support written into the zero sight sim?
 Hope this feedback helps to make a interesting new flight simulator easier to 
 fly via we blind pilots and more enjoyable to fly via we blind pilots.
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Shard Workshop
 Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:52 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!
 
 The first patch will add the shortcuts! And who is downloading now should
 yet have them.
 Thanks for the feedback!
 
 2011/12/19 Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com
 
 Hi Lorenzo,
 Perhaps you might consider adding the manual to the program group? That
 tends to be the standard. And I just sent an eMail regarding my order:
 ignore it. It seems as if my download got sent before the confirmation
 eMail...lol
 
 Best Regards,
 Hayden
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of Shard Workshop
 Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:24 PM
 To: raydar11...@yahoo.com; Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!
 
 It is in the game folder. The default is c:\program files\shard
 workshop\zero sight.
 
 2011/12/19 Reinhard Stebner raydar11...@yahoo.com
 
  I am looking for the manual and I am unable to find it. I cannot find it
 on
  the website for in the program group in the start menu.
  -Original Message-
  From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Shard Workshop
  Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:02 PM
  To: Gamers Discussion list
  Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!
 
  Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its
 real
  initiation in the world of audiogaming.
 
  Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
  has been released just now.
 
  You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight
 
  We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to  be
  100% that it works on your machine.
 
  If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
  thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50
 
  We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
  audiogames that will really change the way you play.
 
  Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-19 Thread Dallas O'Brien

hi, i agree. in turms of actually flying the plain, it couldn't be 
easyer. lol.
in turms of navagation however, its a little different. flying by 
compass headings is the way its done for a reason. its a language nearly 
all people who have had contact with navigational instroments, weather 
that be an actual compass, or other forms, have come in to contact with 
somehow. pluss, the degrees are aranged that way for a reason.
thats why flying with this system is very confusing, as in my mind now, 
over the years, 0, or 360 is north,90, or 090 is east, 180 is south, and 
270 is west. so when you start with 0 beeing east, this throws off all 
sense of direction i have.


also, another note for the developer, when you cut power to your 
engines, bringing the power to 0, or turning the engines off, your plain 
is still moving forwards. it does not come to a stop in the air and go 
straight down. let alone if you put the nose down, this would accelerate 
you forwards as well as down. this is how you can regain some speed if 
your engines stop, and you should still be able to land at a nearby 
airport if your engines are damaged or you run out of fuel.
of course, if you pull the nose up while you have 0 power, or not enough 
power, this would in fact bring you to a stall, or 0 forward movement.

other then these few things, its a fantastic game! and is very fun to play.
dallas


On 20/12/2011 11:57, william lomas wrote:

taking off is so easy why is it blind people want complex games but can't cope 
with what we get?
true i struggle to take off on ledmium aand short air strip but taking off on 
long air strips is easy
manuals are there as someone else said for a good enough reason

On Dec 19, 2011, at 10:29 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:


So do we need to down load another up dated demo?
I think having the shortcuts will help out.
In this blind pilot's opinion, there just was way way to much to try and digest 
to learn to fly.

Something to think about.
Any chance of having a audio walk through  and for each stip by step from the 
beginning use and show us all of the shortcut keystrokes until you get off of 
the ground.
I'll give this sim another try.
But I hate to say it.
The first try this sim was way way way over this blind pilot's abilitiy.
Also, for the future.
Will there be USB support written into the zero sight sim?
Hope this feedback helps to make a interesting new flight simulator easier to 
fly via we blind pilots and more enjoyable to fly via we blind pilots.


-Original Message- From: Shard Workshop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:52 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

The first patch will add the shortcuts! And who is downloading now should
yet have them.
Thanks for the feedback!

2011/12/19 Hayden Presleyhdpres...@hotmail.com


Hi Lorenzo,
Perhaps you might consider adding the manual to the program group? That
tends to be the standard. And I just sent an eMail regarding my order:
ignore it. It seems as if my download got sent before the confirmation
eMail...lol

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Shard Workshop
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:24 PM
To: raydar11...@yahoo.com; Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

It is in the game folder. The default is c:\program files\shard
workshop\zero sight.

2011/12/19 Reinhard Stebnerraydar11...@yahoo.com


I am looking for the manual and I am unable to find it. I cannot find it

on

the website for in the program group in the start menu.
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]

On

Behalf Of Shard Workshop
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:02 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its

real

initiation in the world of audiogaming.

Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
has been released just now.

You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to  be
100% that it works on your machine.

If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
audiogames that will really change the way you play.

Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-19 Thread Hayden Presley

HI,
I have to agree. Using the cartisian system is great for those of us who
appreciate mathematics (myself included, heheh) but I have to agree the
compass system of degrees works better and is much more commonly used. Also,
I believe north and south are reversed in some way: I find myself going
north and having my y coordinate decrease.

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Dallas O'Brien
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 10:19 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

hi, i agree. in turms of actually flying the plain, it couldn't be 
easyer. lol.
in turms of navagation however, its a little different. flying by 
compass headings is the way its done for a reason. its a language nearly 
all people who have had contact with navigational instroments, weather 
that be an actual compass, or other forms, have come in to contact with 
somehow. pluss, the degrees are aranged that way for a reason.
thats why flying with this system is very confusing, as in my mind now, 
over the years, 0, or 360 is north,90, or 090 is east, 180 is south, and 
270 is west. so when you start with 0 beeing east, this throws off all 
sense of direction i have.

also, another note for the developer, when you cut power to your 
engines, bringing the power to 0, or turning the engines off, your plain 
is still moving forwards. it does not come to a stop in the air and go 
straight down. let alone if you put the nose down, this would accelerate 
you forwards as well as down. this is how you can regain some speed if 
your engines stop, and you should still be able to land at a nearby 
airport if your engines are damaged or you run out of fuel.
of course, if you pull the nose up while you have 0 power, or not enough 
power, this would in fact bring you to a stall, or 0 forward movement.
other then these few things, its a fantastic game! and is very fun to play.
dallas


On 20/12/2011 11:57, william lomas wrote:
 taking off is so easy why is it blind people want complex games but can't
cope with what we get?
 true i struggle to take off on ledmium aand short air strip but taking off
on long air strips is easy
 manuals are there as someone else said for a good enough reason

 On Dec 19, 2011, at 10:29 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:

 So do we need to down load another up dated demo?
 I think having the shortcuts will help out.
 In this blind pilot's opinion, there just was way way to much to try and
digest to learn to fly.

 Something to think about.
 Any chance of having a audio walk through  and for each stip by step from
the beginning use and show us all of the shortcut keystrokes until you get
off of the ground.
 I'll give this sim another try.
 But I hate to say it.
 The first try this sim was way way way over this blind pilot's abilitiy.
 Also, for the future.
 Will there be USB support written into the zero sight sim?
 Hope this feedback helps to make a interesting new flight simulator
easier to fly via we blind pilots and more enjoyable to fly via we blind
pilots.


 -Original Message- From: Shard Workshop
 Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:52 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

 The first patch will add the shortcuts! And who is downloading now should
 yet have them.
 Thanks for the feedback!

 2011/12/19 Hayden Presleyhdpres...@hotmail.com

 Hi Lorenzo,
 Perhaps you might consider adding the manual to the program group? That
 tends to be the standard. And I just sent an eMail regarding my order:
 ignore it. It seems as if my download got sent before the confirmation
 eMail...lol

 Best Regards,
 Hayden


 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]
On
 Behalf Of Shard Workshop
 Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:24 PM
 To: raydar11...@yahoo.com; Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

 It is in the game folder. The default is c:\program files\shard
 workshop\zero sight.

 2011/12/19 Reinhard Stebnerraydar11...@yahoo.com

 I am looking for the manual and I am unable to find it. I cannot find
it
 on
 the website for in the program group in the start menu.
 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Shard Workshop
 Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:02 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

 Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its
 real
 initiation in the world of audiogaming.

 Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero
Sight,
 has been released just now.

 You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

 We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to
be
 100% that it works on your machine.

 If you happen to have

Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-19 Thread Hayden Presley

HI,
More realistic than anything we are used to? I don't think so, but it's up
there in terms of realism. But in all honesty, there is not all that much to
grasp, if you take it a little at a time. Start with just the keystrokes
necessary for a takeoff, then start figuring out the other status keys, then
the rader (which, admittedly, is a little complicated, but I like it).

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:55 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

Just thinking out loud, and having never flown a plane or played this demo; 
I wonder how much there is for budding pilots to remember and keep track of?

Could it be that this demo is more realistic than anything we're used to?

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished,

you! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!


 So do we need to down load another up dated demo?
 I think having the shortcuts will help out.
 In this blind pilot's opinion, there just was way way to much to try and 
 digest to learn to fly.

 Something to think about.
 Any chance of having a audio walk through  and for each stip by step from 
 the beginning use and show us all of the shortcut keystrokes until you get

 off of the ground.
 I'll give this sim another try.
 But I hate to say it.
 The first try this sim was way way way over this blind pilot's abilitiy.
 Also, for the future.
 Will there be USB support written into the zero sight sim?
 Hope this feedback helps to make a interesting new flight simulator easier

 to fly via we blind pilots and more enjoyable to fly via we blind pilots.


 -Original Message- 
 From: Shard Workshop
 Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:52 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

 The first patch will add the shortcuts! And who is downloading now should
 yet have them.
 Thanks for the feedback!

 2011/12/19 Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

 Hi Lorenzo,
 Perhaps you might consider adding the manual to the program group? That
 tends to be the standard. And I just sent an eMail regarding my order:
 ignore it. It seems as if my download got sent before the confirmation
 eMail...lol

 Best Regards,
 Hayden


 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of Shard Workshop
 Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:24 PM
 To: raydar11...@yahoo.com; Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

 It is in the game folder. The default is c:\program files\shard
 workshop\zero sight.

 2011/12/19 Reinhard Stebner raydar11...@yahoo.com

  I am looking for the manual and I am unable to find it. I cannot find 
  it
 on
  the website for in the program group in the start menu.
  -Original Message-
  From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Shard Workshop
  Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:02 PM
  To: Gamers Discussion list
  Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!
 
  Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its
 real
  initiation in the world of audiogaming.
 
  Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero 
  Sight,
  has been released just now.
 
  You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight
 
  We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to 
  be
  100% that it works on your machine.
 
  If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
  thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50
 
  We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
  audiogames that will really change the way you play.
 
  Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...
 
  Good luck, pilots.. and let us know what you think.
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-19 Thread Dallas O'Brien

same here. just so you know, i just completed the 8th mission. fantastic 
stuff to play out! makes you work.

now on to play general maps!
dallas


On 20/12/2011 14:33, Hayden Presley wrote:

HI,
More realistic than anything we are used to? I don't think so, but it's up
there in terms of realism. But in all honesty, there is not all that much to
grasp, if you take it a little at a time. Start with just the keystrokes
necessary for a takeoff, then start figuring out the other status keys, then
the rader (which, admittedly, is a little complicated, but I like it).

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:55 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

Just thinking out loud, and having never flown a plane or played this demo;
I wonder how much there is for budding pilots to remember and keep track of?

Could it be that this demo is more realistic than anything we're used to?

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished,

you! are! finished!
- Original Message -
From: Ron Kolesarkolesar16...@roadrunner.com
To: Gamers Discussion listgamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!



So do we need to down load another up dated demo?
I think having the shortcuts will help out.
In this blind pilot's opinion, there just was way way to much to try and
digest to learn to fly.

Something to think about.
Any chance of having a audio walk through  and for each stip by step from
the beginning use and show us all of the shortcut keystrokes until you get
off of the ground.
I'll give this sim another try.
But I hate to say it.
The first try this sim was way way way over this blind pilot's abilitiy.
Also, for the future.
Will there be USB support written into the zero sight sim?
Hope this feedback helps to make a interesting new flight simulator easier
to fly via we blind pilots and more enjoyable to fly via we blind pilots.


-Original Message-
From: Shard Workshop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:52 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

The first patch will add the shortcuts! And who is downloading now should
yet have them.
Thanks for the feedback!

2011/12/19 Hayden Presleyhdpres...@hotmail.com


Hi Lorenzo,
Perhaps you might consider adding the manual to the program group? That
tends to be the standard. And I just sent an eMail regarding my order:
ignore it. It seems as if my download got sent before the confirmation
eMail...lol

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Shard Workshop
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:24 PM
To: raydar11...@yahoo.com; Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

It is in the game folder. The default is c:\program files\shard
workshop\zero sight.

2011/12/19 Reinhard Stebnerraydar11...@yahoo.com


I am looking for the manual and I am unable to find it. I cannot find
it

on

the website for in the program group in the start menu.
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]

On

Behalf Of Shard Workshop
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:02 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its

real

initiation in the world of audiogaming.

Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero
Sight,
has been released just now.

You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to
be
100% that it works on your machine.

If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
audiogames that will really change the way you play.

Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...

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[Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-18 Thread Shard Workshop

Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its real
initiation in the world of audiogaming.

Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
has been released just now.

You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to be
100% that it works on your machine.

If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
audiogames that will really change the way you play.

Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-18 Thread Jorge Gonçalves


Brilliant. This are really wonderful news.
I will try it out as soon as I have some free time.
Cheers and many thanks for the game!
I was dreaming for a game like this!


Jorge Gonçalves
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Skype: joport3
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Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com

On 12/19/2011 12:01 AM, Shard Workshop wrote:

Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its real
initiation in the world of audiogaming.

Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
has been released just now.

You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to be
100% that it works on your machine.

If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
audiogames that will really change the way you play.

Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-18 Thread Reinhard Stebner

I am looking for the manual and I am unable to find it. I cannot find it on
the website for in the program group in the start menu.
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Shard Workshop
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:02 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its real
initiation in the world of audiogaming.

Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
has been released just now.

You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to be
100% that it works on your machine.

If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
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Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-18 Thread Shard Workshop

It is in the game folder. The default is c:\program files\shard
workshop\zero sight.

2011/12/19 Reinhard Stebner raydar11...@yahoo.com

 I am looking for the manual and I am unable to find it. I cannot find it on
 the website for in the program group in the start menu.
 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of Shard Workshop
 Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:02 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

 Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its real
 initiation in the world of audiogaming.

 Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
 has been released just now.

 You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

 We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to be
 100% that it works on your machine.

 If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
 thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

 We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
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 Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-18 Thread Ian McNamara

Hi yep will give it a try when i can not normely the kind of game i'm good at 
but really think i'll give the demmo a try then if i like it concidder buying 
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-18 Thread Shard Workshop

Great!

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

Hi Lorenzo,
I ordered the game something like an hour ago, and it said I should've
received an eMail within half an hour. Was it referring to the conformation
eMail, or the eMail giving the actual order information?

Best Regards,
Hayden

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Great!

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

Hi Lorenzo,
Perhaps you might consider adding the manual to the program group? That
tends to be the standard. And I just sent an eMail regarding my order:
ignore it. It seems as if my download got sent before the confirmation
eMail...lol

Best Regards,
Hayden


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It is in the game folder. The default is c:\program files\shard
workshop\zero sight.

2011/12/19 Reinhard Stebner raydar11...@yahoo.com

 I am looking for the manual and I am unable to find it. I cannot find it
on
 the website for in the program group in the start menu.
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 We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to be
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-18 Thread Reinhard Stebner

Do you know if you will ever add mouse support? I think mouse support would
give finer control of the airplane and there are several audio games using
this type of control as well.
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Great!

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-18 Thread Ron Kolesar


For my fellow blind pilot love to be.
I've already down loaded the demo.
Man do we have a lot to learn. SMILES.
I think the best thing for us to do is to write some Braille reminders of 
the shortcut keystrokes and their functions so that we can at least get off 
of the ground. SMILES.

So that's my opinion of the new hand to ear flight simulator at this time.

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Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:01 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its real
initiation in the world of audiogaming.

Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
has been released just now.

You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to be
100% that it works on your machine.

If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-18 Thread Dallas O'Brien

yeah. its looking good. one idea though, for the developer. would it be 
possible to set the directions, as compass directions? as its quite 
disorienting to have degrees that don't match up to compass headings. 
like, 0 being north, not east, 90 being east, 180 being south, and 270 
being west?
this would be a lot easier for those of us used to working with such 
directions from other devices and games.

Dallas


On 19/12/2011 13:49, Ron Kolesar wrote:

For my fellow blind pilot love to be.
I've already down loaded the demo.
Man do we have a lot to learn. SMILES.
I think the best thing for us to do is to write some Braille reminders 
of the shortcut keystrokes and their functions so that we can at least 
get off of the ground. SMILES.
So that's my opinion of the new hand to ear flight simulator at this 
time.


-Original Message- From: Shard Workshop
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:01 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its 
real

initiation in the world of audiogaming.

Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
has been released just now.

You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to be
100% that it works on your machine.

If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-18 Thread Ron Kolesar


I too would appreciate that.
I was always taught the following.
Look at a clock. Each number of the clock equaled thirty degrees. But both 
either 0 and or 360 was north.

090 degrees with east.
180 was south, and 270 degrees was west.
One other recommendation
Any chance of writing in USB game pad and or USB flight yoke support into 
the game.
I think this would be easier than trying to remember all of the keyboard 
commands.

Just a thought to make the new sim as close to realistic as possible.
Ron and trusty four pawed copilot/first officer Leader Dog Boz.

-Original Message- 
From: Dallas O'Brien

Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 10:55 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

yeah. its looking good. one idea though, for the developer. would it be
possible to set the directions, as compass directions? as its quite
disorienting to have degrees that don't match up to compass headings.
like, 0 being north, not east, 90 being east, 180 being south, and 270
being west?
this would be a lot easier for those of us used to working with such
directions from other devices and games.
Dallas


On 19/12/2011 13:49, Ron Kolesar wrote:

For my fellow blind pilot love to be.
I've already down loaded the demo.
Man do we have a lot to learn. SMILES.
I think the best thing for us to do is to write some Braille reminders of 
the shortcut keystrokes and their functions so that we can at least get 
off of the ground. SMILES.

So that's my opinion of the new hand to ear flight simulator at this time.

-Original Message- From: Shard Workshop
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:01 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its 
real

initiation in the world of audiogaming.

Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
has been released just now.

You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to be
100% that it works on your machine.

If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

Hi,
I was wondering about that myself. The good thing is with the navigator, and
with the help of your radar, things are a little easier to work with. Still,
though, it would be nice to have those line up.

Best Regards,
Hayden

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Behalf Of Dallas O'Brien
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 9:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

yeah. its looking good. one idea though, for the developer. would it be 
possible to set the directions, as compass directions? as its quite 
disorienting to have degrees that don't match up to compass headings. 
like, 0 being north, not east, 90 being east, 180 being south, and 270 
being west?
this would be a lot easier for those of us used to working with such 
directions from other devices and games.
Dallas


On 19/12/2011 13:49, Ron Kolesar wrote:
 For my fellow blind pilot love to be.
 I've already down loaded the demo.
 Man do we have a lot to learn. SMILES.
 I think the best thing for us to do is to write some Braille reminders 
 of the shortcut keystrokes and their functions so that we can at least 
 get off of the ground. SMILES.
 So that's my opinion of the new hand to ear flight simulator at this 
 time.

 -Original Message- From: Shard Workshop
 Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:01 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

 Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its 
 real
 initiation in the world of audiogaming.

 Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
 has been released just now.

 You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

 We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to be
 100% that it works on your machine.

 If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
 thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

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