Re: [gentoo-user] advice for a desktop search package?
On Sunday 06 May 2007, "b.n." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] advice for a desktop search package?': > I'd like to know, in your humble or less humble opinion, what's a good > desktop search package for Gentoo. Preferibly I'd like KDE integration. > - Strigi Will be tightly integrated with KDE4, and from what I've heard works fairly well with KDE3. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Mount NFS mounts as soon as possible
On Saturday 05 May 2007, Matthias Fechner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Mount NFS mounts as soon as possible': > Is there a possibility to say gentoo to mount at first all disk > (including NFS) and then start the normal startscripts. IIRC, you can modify specific initscripts (in /etc/init.d) to depend on nfsmount. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Wesnoth version
On Saturday 05 May 2007, "Marko Kocić" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Wesnoth version': > [I]f "let's try to rename ebuild and see what > happens when the new version is released", I'll be glad to help by > sending reports to this list. Better to file version-bump bugs to b.g.o. Reporting/complaining here is less likely to produce results. Remember to wait 2-3 days after the official release date before filing a bug; give the maintainer a little time to do the bump him/herself. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Wesnoth version
On Saturday 05 May 2007, "Marko Kocić" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Wesnoth version': > Is there a specific reason why gentoo doesn't provide development > versions of Battle for Wesnoth (games-strategy/wesnoth)? > > I couldn't find anything in bug database. Development versions (1.3.2) > are pretty stable, so I can't see a reason why are not included in > "~x86". As for "x86", 1.2.4 (latest stable) seems ok. > > Should I open a bug for that? Yeah, a new numbered release deserves it's own ebuild, even if it has to linger in package.mask. Make sure it's been 2-3 days after the release and then file a version bump bug. Please report if "simply renaming" the existing ebuild works and/or what you had to change to get a clean compile/install. If you follow Wesnoth closely, but aren't part of upstream, you might consider becoming a/the gentoo package maintainer for it. IIRC, IMHO, the packaging for Wesnoth could use a little "love". -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] how to show urxvt's name in windowlist?
On Sunday 29 April 2007 19:25:21 anhnmncb wrote: > hello, list: > when I assign a name to urxvt and run it: > urxvt -name foo -e bash -c "foo" > why the windowlist still show "[EMAIL PROTECTED]: pwd"? I expect it should > show "foo". Sounds like you have characters in your prompt and/or prompt-command that are setting the X window title. > What should I do? Remove those characters. > I appreciate any suggestion and advice. You might want to try the urxvt support forums/mailinglist/whatever; this doesn't sound like a Gentoo-specific problem. That said, I'm sure someone will help you out here, IF they can. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpxWb98fe0k1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] file sorting in nautilus
On Thursday 26 April 2007 01:15:17 Iain Buchanan wrote: > recently I borrowed (and will probably soon buy a related model) a JVC > "HD" HD video camera. (The first "HD" is for high def!). > > Anyway, the great feature is it records on a 40Gb hard disk, but the > annoying thing is the video files are named in hex: > MOV001 > MOV002 > MOV003 > ... > MOV009 > MOV00A > MOV00B > ... > MOV00F > MOV010 > > and so on. But when nautilus displays the files, it decides to do it > "cleverly", and sorts all the 001 to 009, 010 to 019, etc. files _after_ > all the 00A to 00F, 01A to 01F files, which is in completely the wrong > order, so trying to categorise / edit > the files becomes a pain, as the more files I have, the further out of > place they get! `ls` doesn't sort it like nautilus - it does what I > expect and puts it in the right order. Adjust your LC_ALL, LC_COLLATE, and/or LANG environment variables. (At least, Nautilus /should/ respect those.) You might have to do something like: LC_ALL="POSIX" nautilus from a xterm-like application. You can use env | grep ^L from a new xterm-like seesion to see what nautilus "sees" by default. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpnQu2xGs02Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Permission denied during emerge...
On Sunday 22 April 2007 19:37:58 David Corbin wrote:
> > David Corbin wrote:
> > > I've started getting this: "Permission denied: access('/', W_OK)"
> > > on my emerges.
>
> Somehow, my
> root system was *acting* as if it were mounted ReadOnly. mount said
> otherwise. Rebooting (wince) corrected the problem.
e2/3/4fs? Certain errors inside those kernel modules (even if they are
compiled in) will cause the fs they are working on to go read-only. I
suggest a full fsck when you can get the time and to check any self-diags
and/or SMART info your disks provide immediately.
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[gentoo-user] Re: emerge world
Richard Marz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From time to time an emerge world fails to update every possible package > because of a failure with one that causes the whole process to fail. I > remember reading about a tool which would continue to upgrade/install > packages whether some failed or not and then pipe the list of > problematic packages to a file. Does anyone know what the the name of > that tool is or any other tool that might have a similar behavior to the > one I just described? emerge world || until emerge --resume --skipfirst; do :; done -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock/Daylight Savings
On Thursday 19 April 2007, "Dan Cowsill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Clock/Daylight Savings': > I dual boot windows on my system, and for some reason, windows can't > keep the time straight after the change. Windows expects the hardware clock to be in local time. (Open)NTPd uses UTC for all it's time values. You have to do some magic that I don't know to get Linux/BSD ntp daemons to play well with windows *and* properly correct for time. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock/Daylight Savings
On Thursday 19 April 2007 04:10:58 Randy Barlow wrote: > Ever since the new daylight savings change, my clock hasn't done the > "Spring Forward". I use ntp and the like, and it seems happy being > behind by an hour. ntp (and the like) use UTC, which does not "Spring Forward" or "Fall Back", as everything that really cares about accurate time should. > I can use the date command to set it correctly, but > after the next reboot it's back to its old games. Pointers? You probably need to make sure your TIMEZONE in /etc/conf.d/clock and/or or /etc/localtime are set properly. Generally, you DON'T want to set them to CST (or similar) since that doesn't sf/fb either (instead most of the area covered by CST switches to CDT), although some like CST6CDT might work. Instead you'll want to use (Type/)Region/(SubRegion/)City for a city that uses the same timezone rules as you. E.g. America/Chicago, America/Kentucky/Monticello, posix/US/Central, or right/America/Indiana/Knox (All the timezones supported by your libc are under /usr/share/zoneinfo.) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Add a module post kernel config/build
On Wednesday 18 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Add a module post kernel config/build': > Summary: > How can I add an additional module once I've configured/built a kernel? > > Details: After looking thru the handbook, especially section about > kernel config, I don't see information about how to add a module once > a kernel is built and running. For in-tree modules, go into the kernel source directory, use menuconfig or whatever to set that configuration setting to 'm', make, make modules-install. (Or, at least, that's my preferred method modulo typos.) Changing kernel settings doesn't always require a new kernel image; here's a table (please view in a fixed width font. Old New Result N M Rebuild modules N Y Rebuild image M N No rebuild needed M Y Rebuild image [1] Y N Rebuild image Y M Rebuild image If the image needs rebuilding, you'll also need to rebuild all modules. You'll also want to re-install anything you had to rebuild. [1]: Remove the module from /lib/modules to make sure you don't try and load it twice. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Stage tarballs
On Monday 16 April 2007, Jesús Guerrero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Stage tarballs': > El Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:54:49 +0300 > > "Stratos Psomadakis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > can anyone explain to me what are the differences between the stage > > 1,2 and 3 installation tarballs?ç > > They are three different stages of the same thing. Stage1 is a tarball > which contains a basic minimal C compiler. And, unless a fix has been discovered and applied, stage1 tarball doesn't contain any information about what packages own what files, so starting from stage 1 will leave a minimal amount of cruft in /usr (?and /var?). IIRC, I started from stage 1 on my first install (2004.3), but I wouldn't recommend anything other than stage 3 to anyone at this point, since there's now an established procedure for changing your CHOST if need be, and packages in system will eventually pick up any CFLAGS customizations gradually. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Install Stage feature request and bug report.
On Sunday 08 April 2007, Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Install Stage feature request and bug report.': > Just a small request of the gentoo stage developers... Wrong list man. You either want gentoo-dev or (not a mailing-list) bugs.gentoo.org. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpTOljN6iDDG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] a weird problem regarding internet connection...
On Saturday 07 April 2007, Uwe Thiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] a weird problem regarding internet connection...': > On 07 April 2007, Coder TuX wrote: > > Pinging the IP address works, pinging the corresponding domain name > > doesn't. > > So it's definitely a DNS problem. > > Have you recently upgraded your firewall, if any, and blindly used > etc-update with checking your firewall config? You should also check your nsswitch.conf to make sure it is set up correctly. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpui0WAd9JpI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?
On Thursday 05 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?': > 31334 I think you meant 31337. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgppisluZTz0q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!?
On Wednesday 04 April 2007 15:57:40 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am told the ~ platform is testing. No it is not, or should not > be; it is one thing to release new features which may or may not be > finished, but entirely different to release untested code. ~ARCH is testing, don't run it if you aren't willing to test code and file bugs. The handbook is clear on this point. Its not completely untested code, though. The developer that marks it as ~ARCH should have compiled and run the program to his or her satisfaction on that ARCH. At that point, the developer can (rightly) feel free to release the package to those users that have **VOLUNTARILY chosen to test new packages* by running ~ARCH. I'm not saying don't run ~ARCH at all; but if you do, you have chosen to test the software and should file bugs, even if that takes some time. > Nazis Godwin!! -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgp1FdYRbK5CO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't find eth0?
On Wednesday 04 April 2007 02:30:32 Chuanwen Wu wrote: > # ifconfig eth0 > eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found ifconfig -a Maybe it's a different name. You can, of course use custom udev rules to name it however you wish, but features like etherenet over USB and ethernet over firewire can cause your "only" NIC to show up with a different name. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpaU91pQXZLf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Top-posting etc. (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Thermal cpu)
On Tuesday 03 April 2007 18:15:07 Bayrouni wrote:
> Sylvain Chouleur a écrit :
> > 1) I'm sorry but don't understand what 'top post' means
>
> When you reply don't write your message at the top but at the bottom.
> just at the bottom.
>
> In other words, write at the last line.
Well, that's somewhat better, but still not ideal.
top post: v.
1. Writing your entire reply to a message (generally email or newsgroup
posting) above any quoted material you are replying to.
bottom post: v.
1. Writing your entire reply to a message (generally email or newsgroup
posting) below any quoted material you are replying to.
Top posting is generally considered either wasteful, if the quoted part
isn't
required, or confusing, since the answers to questions will appear the
questions themselves and the "conversation" will generally be read in the
wrong order. This being said, top posting is preferred in some fora. Top
posting is a common beginner (see n00b) behavior in the face of properly
behaving email/newsgroup client (see below). At least one mail client
(Microsoft Outlook) makes it intentionally difficult to not to top post,
though cursor, signature, and quoted material placement AND non-standard
quoting methods.
Bottom posting is preferred over top posting in most fora, but is still
wasteful especially in combination with "me too" posts, in which the volume
of quoted (and thus at least partially redundant) material greatly dwarfs
the
amount of unquoted (and ideally original) material.
The most preferred method of replying is sometimes called "interleaved
posting". In this case you quote only the relevant parts of the message
you
are replying to, leaving only enough information to provide a context for
your material. The appropriate amount of quoted material can differ
greatly
based on the fora for which the message is intended. Your material is
placed
after what it is replying to, which might be before other quoted material.
Here's an example:
--- Begin Example ---
>> I've filed bug XXX against foo/bar-1.1_pre2; it breaks some of my
scripts
>> I wrote against foo/bar-1.0
>
> That's not a bug. It's a feature.
> Riposte A
I see the security implications, but I've attached a patch that retains the
1.0 behavior while addressing the buffer overflow risk in a future-proof
manner.
> Riposte C
This is the problem with open source software. The %#$@ developers want it
to
be broken. That's a stupid point and you should be ashamed for presenting
it.
--- End Example ---
In the example above, the "Riposte B" text was dropped since the message
contained no direct reply to it.
A properly behaving email/newsgroup client, in absence of other user
preferences, should quote the entire message being replied to (the
format=flowed RFC covers acceptable quoting methods), place the user's
cursor
at the top (or slightly above) the quoted material, and automatically
insert
the content of the users signature (on UNIX, baring other configuration,
this
is in contents of the file $HOME/.sig) below the quoted material after the
standard signature separator ('-- ' on it's own line). The user will then,
move down the message, deleting quoted material irrelevant to their reply
and
writing their content immediately after the relevent quoted material and
stopping when they reach the signature separator. New users often simply
type their reply, without touching the quoted material resulting in a top
post (see above).
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?
On Tuesday 03 April 2007 23:17:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip: Rant re: portage's stupid color behavior] Amen. I'm not sure *exactly* what the solution is, but portage needs help in the color department. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgp5pcq2osJSO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Thermal cpu
On Tuesday 03 April 2007, "Sylvain Chouleur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Thermal cpu': > I have found the source of my problem: 1) Don't top post. 2) 65 C isn't a problem. My laptop regularly runs 85+ C under load. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpobwYw7w9o8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge human readable format.
On Tuesday 03 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] emerge human readable format.': > It could be much more convenient to have this kind of information more > readable : That's the output of rsync, not emerge. > but I see no human readable formatting option. Any trick ? Oddly enough, I find that quite human-readable, compared to some programs outputs. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpsiKlD25Mlo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can I share my /boot and swap partitions with other Linux installs?
On Tuesday 03 April 2007 03:11:48 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 03 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > /etc, /var, /usr, /bin and so on I can see the (potential) problems. > > But just /root ? It is a must to have it does not contain important > > tuned up files, does it ? It is just an account that root use for > > admin task, so is there a known problem to share it ? > > > > I used to mount /root aside from /. /root being separate shouldn't cause a lot of problems, although many programs idly write to $HOME so you may accumulate some files in the mountpoint, especially if you have to do any rescue procedures with /root mounted. That said, I don't suggest it. If you have the habit of treating /root like a normal home directory (in which case it could grow large), I suggest you symlink /root/files (or similar) to /home/root (which you should create) and modify your habits slightly to use /root/files. > The / partition on any sane system *must* contain at > least /bin, /sbin, /etc, /lib and /root (if those dirs are not > available all kinds of trouble erupts at start time). initscripts and anything else that might be invoked before /home is mounted shouldn't use $HOME or /root, IMHO. That said, it is generally assumed that /root is part of /, so you might find some (IMHO broken) parts of the init system that depend of /root being available before /home is. I once wanted to stick /etc on RAID6, but have / on RAID0 (along with /bin, /sbin, and /lib), so I've thought about the ways to do this. Basically you'd need to write your own initrd/initramfs that makes sure both the real / and /etc are mounted before handing your layout over to your distro's init system -- I don't know a single disto that has support for /etc being separate, it's needed incredibly early in the boot process -- in particular /etc/fstab needs to be available so the init scripts and mount your other filesystems. An alternative that *might* work is having a bare-bones /etc (including /etc/fstab) as part of /, but keep most of your configuration on a separate /etc. However, this would probably need to be tuned to the specific distro since they may expect different files to be available before mounting the filesystems in /etc/fstab. Of course, there are other problems with this, including synchronizing configuration between the bare-bones /etc and the full /etc. Both techniques could be extended to /bin, /sbin, and/or /lib in lieu of or in addition to /etc. I don't recommend either, though. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpz64YnfE772.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpcd don't create resolv.conf
On Monday 02 April 2007, "Sylvain Chouleur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] dhcpcd don't create resolv.conf': > I know that this problem is may be not in rapport with gentoo, but i > try: When I call dhcpcd on an interface, it don't create or replace the > file /etc/resolv.conf > > Is there an option or anything to do in order to update this file? You should configure your network devices using /etc/conf.d/net. Read the example /etc/conf.d/net.example for how to set up dhcp, witch, by default, will re-write this file. There might also be a file or two mentioned the dhcpcd man page that control it's behavior. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpFBVh1gl66q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can I share my /boot and swap partitions with other Linux installs?
On Monday 02 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Re: Can I share my /boot and swap partitions with other Linux installs?': > And what's about sharing /root ? is there any problem or not ? I never > did it but was wondering about. No, different distros will require slightly different layouts in /etc (which is normally part of the same mount as /) and, in particular, will install (and confuse each other with) distro-specific scripts in /etc/init.d. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgp9V19MHFqOY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT DNS] common way to discover nameservers for an IP
On Sunday 01 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] [OT DNS] common way to discover nameservers for an IP': > I know I've once known and used a command that listed the nameservers > serving a given IP. > > I don't remember if it was nslookup, host, dig or what but not finding > it in those various man pages. You probably want: dig NS -x $IP -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpZwmZLJtOnZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Any consequences to package.mask'ing newer kernels?
On Saturday 31 March 2007 00:55:10 Walter Dnes wrote: > Having gotten rather tired of doing this > manually... again... I went into /etc/portage/package.mask and added > > >sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.19-r5 > > It won't hurt me now, but is there anything that might depend on newer > kernels? It's assumed I'll upgrade when required by a security alert. > Other than that, how long can I get away between kernel upgrades? Just watch your GLSAs, and you should be fine. If a package depends on a certain kernel version, it will list that in it's depend line, and emerge will complain that it can't satisfy that dependency. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpQFaxdTmTTZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Eez a byootiful dai todai
On Friday 30 March 2007, "Hemmann, Volker Armin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Eez a byootiful dai todai': > On Freitag, 30. März 2007, Dan Farrell wrote: > > The neat computers in the world today deserver Linux, and let's face > > it, we all deserve to be gurus on 90% of computers and not 5%. > > 5% is totally ok for me, if 90% marketshare means ubuntu > I mean no real root (ubuntu), This is silly, Ubuntu has just as much of a root as any other linux, it just randomizes/expires the password instead of prompting you for one by default. A simple 'sudo passwd' will fix let you login or su to root. Of course, you might as well just use 'sudo -s'. Personally, I use Kubuntu on my laptop and have never had a reason to change root's password from the default. Even on my Gentoo desktop, I use sudo (and my user password) 100x more often than su/login and the root password. The choice to not ask for root's password during installation was amde for good reason. One less question makes the installation easier and faster, and providing the randomized password + sudo access increases or at least does not decrease security afforded by the "old" Debian way (which ends up prompting for two passwords; each twice). -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpoTjncOxB7x.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: SOLVED: Recover from LVM errors? (Was: Re: Help - system reboots while compiling)
On Thursday 29 March 2007, Remy Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Re: SOLVED: Recover from LVM errors? (Was: Re: Help - system reboots while compiling)': > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > Surely, a filesystem should not shy > > away from sanity checks that can be done with little overhead besides > > CPU time, but adding a checksum to each block might be a little > > overkill. > > As long as performance is OK, I am willing to sacrifice the space for > the per-block checksum. Yeah, if It's a CRC32 that's only 4 bytes out of a 4k block. .1% space overhead is paltry compared to the space cost of RAID-3/5/6. Even if it's something longer with error correction as well as detection, like a Hamming code, I imagine it could be *very* useful. Most checksums/checkdigits [e.g. CRC16/CRC32 or using any Crypo hash as a checksum] only do error detection, but the theory behind error correction has been around nearly as long, it's just more "expensive". More layers of redundancy are generally a good thing. > BTW, 10 drives? Nice setup! The machine's hostname is "monster" for a reason. 2x Dual-Core Opteron 275s, 2x NVidia 7800GTX (overclocked by BFG), 4G RAM, 10x 500G Hitachi's in 2x Chenbro 5-in-3 enclosures (in RAID6 = ~4TB usable space), 2x 74G Raptors in software RAID-0, Dell 1905FP + Dell 2407WFP, 7.1 sound, SATA DVD+/-RW drive, basically everything I could ever need. Built it myself (well, with the help of my geek friends as well) in the 1st half of 2005, although I've added some to it since then (drives and monitor). There's a pic and blog post about it on the drupal installation @ my domain, listed in my .sig. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpCUJHixJ2PH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SOLVED: Recover from LVM errors? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Help - system reboots while compiling)
On Thursday 29 March 2007 02:19:57 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 28 March 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > That said, I'm very encouraged about ext4, and will probably migrate > > some unimportant data over to that filesystem in near future and > > perform my own bonnie++ tests. > > How do you plan to get around the decidedly non-trivial task of getting > a decent fsck on a filesystem where plugins handle the metadata? > > Don't get me wrong, I think reiser4 is a good idea, and it's well > thought out. But everything comes at a price, and in this case it's > fsck I think you misread me. I'm interested in ext4, and disappointed in NameSys' handling of reiser4. I love the *idea* of reiser4, but being able the resize the filesystem is *mandatory* for my setup, and I don't get that with reiser4. However, forward movement on a resizer (and other, currently vaporware, filesystem features/utilties) had been completely abandoned to the effort of getting reiser4 mainlined, well before Hans' legal troubles started. I feel this was/is a mistake; I have no problem running mm-sources when it has a feature I desire. But with the filesystem as it is I can't actually use it for more than testing. I've heard some (but not enough) about ext4 and it seems promising. I'm keeping my eye on it, and will probably throw some "production" data on it before it's mainlined. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpwBToAGoPth.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: SOLVED: Recover from LVM errors? (Was: Re: Help - system reboots while compiling)
On Thursday 29 March 2007 03:09:33 Remy Blank wrote: > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >> > >> ZFS? > >> > > > > You say troll, I say possibility; I'll certainly consider it. > > Actually, I would be very interested in using ZFS for my data. > > The "troll" was more about the fact that the ZFS license was explicitly > designed to be GPL-2 incompatible, hence preventing it from being > included into Linux (it would require a clean-room rewrite from the specs). > > > However, the demos that I've seen about ZFS stress how easy it is to > > administer, and all the LVM-style features it has. Personally, > > I've /very/ comfortable with LVM and am of the opinion that such features > > don't actually belong at the "filesystem" layer. > > I haven't made the step to LVM and am still using a plain old RAID-1 > mirror. I'm not that comfortable adding one more layer to the data path, > and one more difficulty in case of hard disk failure. > > > I need to good general purpose filesystem, what matters most to be is: > > 1) Online growing of the filesystem, with LVM I use this a lot, I won't > > consider a filesystem I can't grow while it is in active use. > > 2) Journaling or other techniques (FFS from the *BSD world does something > > they don't like to call journaling) that reduce the frequency of full > > fscks. > > 3) All-round performance, and I don't mind it using extra CPU time or > > memory to make filesystem performance better, I have both to spare. > > 4) Storage savings (like tail packing or transparent compression) > > I completely agree with 1) and 2), and 3) and 4) are nice to haves. What > I like in ZFS is the data integrity check, i.e. every block gets a > checksum, and it can auto-repair in a RAID-Z configuration, something > that RAID-1 cannot. RAID-3?/5/6 can self-repair like this, but the checksumming is done at the stripe, rather than inode level. Since I use HW RAID-6 across 10 drives, I'm not that concerned with this done at the filesystem level. Even without the extra disks, you can use SW RAID across partitions on a single (or small number of) disk(s). [(Ab)uses of SW RAID like this are not something I'd always recommend, but can provide the integrity checks you desire.] Also, EVMS provides a BBR (bad block relocatation) target, that can work around isolated disk failures. > 5) Reliable data integrity checks and self-healing capability. Overall, I see this as something I'd rather see done at the block device level, instead of the filesystem level. Surely, a filesystem should not shy away from sanity checks that can be done with little overhead besides CPU time, but adding a checksum to each block might be a little overkill. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpgpksWoEzna.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: SOLVED: Recover from LVM errors? (Was: Re: Help - system reboots while compiling)
On Wednesday 28 March 2007, Remy Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Re: SOLVED: Recover from LVM errors? (Was: Re: Help - system reboots while compiling)': > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > /me is looking for a new favorite file system. > > > ZFS? > You say troll, I say possibility; I'll certainly consider it. However, the demos that I've seen about ZFS stress how easy it is to administer, and all the LVM-style features it has. Personally, I've /very/ comfortable with LVM and am of the opinion that such features don't actually belong at the "filesystem" layer. [Though, VxFs seems to incorporate some of the same features as well.] So, ZFS doesn't look that promising. I need to good general purpose filesystem, what matters most to be is: 1) Online growing of the filesystem, with LVM I use this a lot, I won't consider a filesystem I can't grow while it is in active use. 2) Journaling or other techniques (FFS from the *BSD world does something they don't like to call journaling) that reduce the frequency of full fscks. 3) All-round performance, and I don't mind it using extra CPU time or memory to make filesystem performance better, I have both to spare. 4) Storage savings (like tail packing or transparent compression) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgp4bzwSj7i5b.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SOLVED: Recover from LVM errors? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Help - system reboots while compiling)
On Wednesday 28 March 2007, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: SOLVED: Recover from LVM errors? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Help - system reboots while compiling)': > All in all, the odds are tipping in favour of ext4 I don't need quite such large filesystems as my largest is just under 4TB, and my system will probably max out around 7TB, but I need a filesystem that is maintained (Namesys had basically abandoned reiserfs in favor of reiser4 well before Hans' current troubles started), and has good all-around performance characteristics (I have both large source trees, invloving a multitude of directories and small-ish files AND a video "library" containing very large files in my /home). I would also like to see some support for the "tail packing" of resiserfs -- It's not that important, but last I checked one saved over 100MB by the portage tree on reiserfs AND mini-benchmarks like emerge --sync and find '/usr/portage' > /dev/null actually ran faster than ext3. That said, I'm very encouraged about ext4, and will probably migrate some unimportant data over to that filesystem in near future and perform my own bonnie++ tests. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgp5z1zwcKjFP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SOLVED: Recover from LVM errors? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Help - system reboots while compiling)
On Wednesday 28 March 2007, "Jeff Rollin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: SOLVED: Recover from LVM errors? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Help - system reboots while compiling)': > > > 1. Frankly, I'm not impressed with Linux in this case*. /var is not > > > a "mission critical" filesystem in the sense that if it contains > > > errors, it can still be mounted and the errors don't necessarily > > > mean the system won't come up. > > > > [F]orcing a mount of a damaged filesystem is asking for trouble. > > It IS a bad idea, but it's not like I "forced" a mount; the system > came up normally and functioned normally until it hit a damaged inode, > whereupon it crashed with nary an indication of what had gone wrong. Ah, yes, that's a problem. What filesystem are you using? I was fairly sure ext2/3 tries to detect damage (even while r/w mounted) and force a r/o re-mount or unmount. [Not that that couldn't cause a freeze or reboot, but at least it's conservative.] Reiserfs (and possibly others) is quite stupid, at least in this regard. After the filesystem is mounted it performs basically zero sanity checks, and always assumes the data provided by the block device is complete and accurate. It can't handle a slowly failing HD, and will almost assuredly silently corrupt data on such a device. This is one of the reasons some people strongly recommend against reiserfs. I still use it, but my important data is on RAID6 (underneath LVM), so I can be fairly certain the data received by the filesystem is good. /me is looking for a new favorite file system. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpIgsTrUVYjQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SOLVED: Recover from LVM errors? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Help - system reboots while compiling)
On Wednesday 28 March 2007, "Jeff Rollin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'SOLVED: Recover from LVM errors? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Help - system reboots while compiling)': > Ignore the following if you don't like minirants. (My reply probably needs the same disclaimer.) > 1. Frankly, I'm not impressed with Linux in this case*. /var is not a > "mission critical" filesystem in the sense that if it contains errors, > it can still be mounted and the errors don't necessarily mean the > system won't come up. By that definition, no filesystem I can think of is "mission critial", they will all withstand some damage and still let your system come up. /var is *at least* as important as /usr -- I can easily recover the contents of /usr in case of critical failure, but reconstructing /var is damn near impossible. Also, /usr can generally be very useful with just r/o access, while /var needs to be r/w to fill it's role. Also, forcing a mount of a damaged filesystem is asking for trouble. Dangling inodes (or similar) can cause cascading failure; at best some processes will read garbage and crash (or, ideally, "magically" recover) at worst good data on the disk will be overwritten with bad. File locks on a damaged filesystem are meaningless since two files (not simply two dirents like with a hard link, but two unrelated files) might share disk sectors. The system should definitely refuse to mount damaged file systems by default or *at the very least* mount them read-only. I wouldn't mind and interactive prompt to force mounting a damaged filesystem, but I'd need a way to turn that off for unattended systems. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpvie0BiI3qY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Busybox update fail
On Wednesday 28 March 2007, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Busybox update fail': > I'm truing to update my Gentoo box, ut its failed on busybox. > > My info > ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" > CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu" > CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" > > My error: > /bin/sh: i686-pc-linux-gnu-ar: command not found > /bin/sh: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: command not found Do you have these files anywhere? If not, you'll probably want to re-emerge binutils and gcc. > make[1]: *** [archival/built-in.o] Ошибка 127 > make: *** [archival] Ошибка 2 > make: *** Ожидание завершения заданий... > make[1]: *** [applets/busybox.o] Ошибка 127 > make[1]: *** Ожидание завершения заданий... > make: *** [applets] Ошибка 2 While some on the list may be able to read this, you'll normally want to generate your errors in the "C" locale before posting them here or in bugzilla. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgp9PKOxwYS2W.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] kmail + sieve
On Wednesday 28 March 2007, "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] kmail + sieve': > Until recently, using managing seive filters in kmail "just worked". > Unfortunately, now I get an error: > > Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: > klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'sieve'. > > whenever I try to manage my sieve rules. Clearly, I must be missing > some kio_slave, but I'm not sure exactly what package it is in. Can > anyone suggest a resolution? To head off the "usual suspects", here's some packages that I do have installed, that are probably responsible for sieve support in kmail: [I] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves Available versions: (3.5) 3.5.5-r1 (~)3.5.6 Installed versions: 3.5.6(3.5)(06:19:21 AM 02/18/2007) (arts -debug -elibc_FreeBSD hal -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility ldap -openexr -samba xinerama) [I] kde-base/kdepim-kioslaves Available versions: (3.5) 3.5.5 (~)3.5.6 Installed versions: 3.5.6(3.5)(07:31:08 AM 03/12/2007) (arts -debug -elibc_FreeBSD -kdeenablefinal -sasl xinerama) [I] kde-base/libksieve Available versions: (3.5) 3.5.0 (~)3.5.6 Installed versions: 3.5.6(3.5)(07:08:41 AM 01/26/2007) (arts -debug -elibc_FreeBSD -kdeenablefinal xinerama) At this point, I'm thinking I may have run into a bug. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpJRtPRp9mXF.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] kmail + sieve
Until recently, using managing seive filters in kmail "just worked". Unfortunately, now I get an error: Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'sieve'. whenever I try to manage my sieve rules. Clearly, I must be missing some kio_slave, but I'm not sure exactly what package it is in. Can anyone suggest a resolution? Here's my kmail information: [I] kde-base/kmail Available versions: (3.5) 3.5.5-r1 (~)3.5.6-r1 Installed versions: 3.5.6-r1(3.5)(12:13:58 PM 02/02/2007)(arts crypt -debug -elibc_FreeBSD -kdeenablefinal xinerama) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpPVYKWFwofu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] getting rid of raid header
On Sunday 25 March 2007, Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] getting rid of raid header': > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 04:03:32AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Sunday 25 March 2007, Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about > > '[gentoo-user] > > getting rid of raid header': > > > Somehow one of my hard drives got a raid header on it, causing it to > > > start when not needed. Running mdadm > > > > I believe > > there's a --zero-superblock mode. > > Perfect, except it says that it can't open it for writing. Guess I'll > boot off a liveCD and see if that helps. You'll have to make sure that disk is (1) not mounted anywhere, (2 - lvm specific) not a pv of any vg with at least one active lv, and (3) not a member disk of any running software raid device, (4) not otherwise "locked - in use" by other kernel systems like evms, iscsi, nbd, or others. (1) is solved by careful use of umount. (2) is solved by careful use of lvchange -an or vgchange -an (3) is solved by careful use of mdadm -S (4) is solved using tools specific to that kernel system. Unless you are using it for some vital filesystem, you should be able to fix you issue with rebooting. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp23zNLt71AX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about gparted
On Sunday 25 March 2007, "Kevin O'Gorman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Questions about gparted': > 1) It complains about being unable to open /dev/nbd1 throught (sic) > /dev/nbd16; I have no idea what these are. Block devices exposed by the 'nbd' module. The nbd module allows block devices to be exported and imported over the network, similar to iSCSI or SATAoE, but is non-standard (AFAIK) and currently only useful is homogeneous Linux environments (since other OSes don't have support for it). It's a bit odd that you have those device nodes. udev shouldn't create them until they are imported. Delete them, then run 'udevtrigger && udevsettle' (as root) and see if they are recreated. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp0TcUsVINOH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] getting rid of raid header
On Sunday 25 March 2007, Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] getting rid of raid header': > Somehow one of my hard drives got a raid header on it, causing it to > start automatically sometimes when not needed. It's on /dev/hda, my > main system disk, which is not RAID at all. Running mdadm Check mdadm --misc --help and mdadm --manage --help. I believe there's a --zero-superblock mode, but you'll have to check the spelling. You'll use it like mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/hda. HTH -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Kernel Symlink use or not use?
On Thursday 22 March 2007, Jakob Buchgraber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] [Way OT] Kernel Symlink use or not use?': > I considered switching to LFS a while ago as this would be the only > Linux "distribution" fulfilling my requirements (besides Gentoo, of > course). So when reading the LFS Book there was a warning saying > > Quote from LFS Book 6.2: I have never seen having the symlink cause a problem, unless the symlink was to the "wrong" kernel. I can't imagine a case where that would be true, so I'm dubious that this quote is based on any real issues. > The Gentoo Documentation however says: Are you using LFS or Gentoo? I guess you should follow the documentation for what you are actually using. Or, do you regularly consult your toaster's manual for how to operate your microwave? > But the $KERNEL_DIR/README says: This is an instruction for compiling userland programs. In particular userland shouldn't include headers from /usr/src/linux, EVER. Those files may change depending on what kernel is installed so they can't be accurately targeted by anything that doesn't closely track the kernel. (If it tracks the kernel that close, so that it has to be compiled for a specific kernel [and specific /configuration/ of that kernel], it should be a kernel module.) Instead your userland programs should use the /usr/include/linux area. (If they have need of linux-specific headers; standard POSIX / C99 / C++03 headers can be found elsewhere.) > So after reading this I searched groups.google.com and the forums about > this issue and found a different approach, which can be used instead of > the /usr/src/linux symlink. Just setting KERNEL_DIR should be enough, but I'm not sure if that will be supported by Gentoo, you should just use the symlink, as the docs say (and as many proprietary, out-of-tree modules expect). > So what's the best way and _why_? /usr/src/linux symlink to "current" (generally running) kernel. Because that's what the docs say so that's what Gentoo supports. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpLRdS0XJCJD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with udev and network cards changing device name
On Thursday 22 March 2007, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with udev and network cards changing device name': > Delete /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules It won't come back next time udev is installed? > This associated network interfaces with MAC addresses, so the cards come > up the same way each time. your problem is caused by the file on the new > box containing the MAC addresses of the cards on the original box, so it > creates two more. A similar thing happens if you replace a network card. > Delete the file and it starts again at zero. A little off-topic, but the recent addition of this file, along with the matching persistent-net-generator rules caused me some grief. I know that MAC addresses are supposed to be suitable as a way to identify network cards, but everyone also knows that they can be changed easily. In fact, I'm lucky enough that both the built-in interfaces on my MB have invalid MACs (FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF and FF:FF:FF:FF:00:00) so the kernel assigns them random MAC addresses. I assign them fixed MACs (:FA:CA:DE) and (:EF:FA:CE) using the macchanger features of Gentoo's net init script. This had worked since I got the MB, and wasn't something I really wanted to change. With the new udev scripts in place, the pair of interfaces gradually increased their number to eth10 and eth11 (rebooting due to unrelated issues), which made my init scripts so longer run and left me manually starting the interfaces (not fun). I didn't want to delete the files, although I didn't need them, under the fear that they'd just keep coming back. The persistent-net rules script looked quite editable, so I (finally) learned how to write my own, useful udev rules, so force the identification I've always known and loved (ethX by PCI device number). -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpVtew5gE31y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ot Light Scribe
On Thursday 15 March 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] ot Light Scribe': > I have recently upgraded my dvd burner which has the light > scribe fuctionality(being able to burn the label into the top of the > disc with the laser) i have searched everywhere but havent been able to > find anything to support this. http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10803 Looks non-free though, and I haven't seen an ebuild anywhere. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgptHaRGNfllm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] RAID
On Saturday 10 March 2007, mwq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] RAID': > Imagine such a situation: I have two > hard drives but drive A is twice faster when reading and writing then > drive B. I want to make RAID 0 using A and B. Why are the stripes sizes > on both drives excacly the same? If stripe sizes aren't consistent, it's takes hundreds more CPU cycles (and a separate code path) to determine where to write a block. This calculation has to be repeated every time a block is written so, it can easily end up limiting your total throughput by making an I/O operation be CPU bound. > I think that using twice > greater stripe on A gives more speed then using equal stripes. If A is also twice as big, you can do as Dan Farrell suggested to get some increased performance. If A is the same size, you'd be sacrificing speed across the whole raid-ed device to potentially gain some speed in the sections where you can make A's segments bigger. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp0cjIJBy29G.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Speed up GoogleEarth on an ATI RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]?
On Friday 09 March 2007, "Walter Dnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Speed up GoogleEarth on an ATI RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]?': > On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 03:18:53PM +, Grant Edwards wrote > > > Run glxinfo and check the first few lines. What does it say > > for "direct rendering:" ? > > name of display: :0.0 > display: :0 screen: 0 > direct rendering: Yes Well, then you have DRI working. You might enable/disable some driver options and/or server extensions to get the best speed out of your DRI. > server glx vendor string: SGI However, it looks like you might be using the wrong driver or glx library; I've fairly sure this is supposed to be 'ATI' when using fglrx. Anything interesting in grep -E '\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp2scNvjN8Gm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] quick kmail question
On Tuesday 06 March 2007, Mike Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] quick kmail question': > On Monday 05 March 2007 20:43:03 Matthew R. Lee wrote: > > However I have it set in my Konqueror configuration to "Open as tab in > > existing Konqueror when URL is called externally" > > Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror > Web Behaviour -> Advanced Options > Select "Open as tab in existing Konqeuror when URL is called > externally". Hrm, maybe it would be best if you read the email before replying to it? -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpZyad4kdzKw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] quick kmail question
On Monday 05 March 2007, "Matthew R. Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] quick kmail question': > When I click on a URL in an email it opens a new Konqueror window. > However I have it set in my Konqueror configuration to "Open as tab in > existing Konqueror when URL is called externally" I've looked through > the KMail configuration settings but I can't find anywhere to change > this. Is there a way? Oddly enough, I have the same settings and it "Just Works" (tm) for me. kmail will use a new tab if I have a konq window open and will open a new knoq window if I don't already have one. As an aside, it seems that kmail does /something/ to check to see if a existing konq window is responding -- if I click URLs too quickly, some will open in an existing window and others will open in a new window (with multiple tabs in that window if "needed"). I have also developed the habit of middle-clicking links, since I use kmail+akregator inside kontact and akregator wants to use a khtml tab inside itself if I don't middle-click. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpfOZFB8V2Q5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems rebuilding gtk+ (and many other packages), due to not found /usr/lib/libXCBRenderUtil.la
On Monday 05 March 2007, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote about '[gentoo-user] Re: Problems rebuilding gtk+ (and many other
packages), due to not found /usr/lib/libXCBRenderUtil.la':
> "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Monday 05 March 2007, "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr."
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Problems
> > rebuilding gtk+ (and many other
> > packages), due to not found /usr/lib/libXCBRenderUtil.la':
> >> I'll let you know what my revdep-rebuild says.
> > Following up, I had to rebuild:
> Hm. Must be something else, as I have none of these packages
> installed.
Between my last clean revdep-rebuild and this one that detected the errors,
I merged a number of packages, but the one that sticks out most is:
=x11-libs/xcb-util-0.2::gentoo
The others were:
=sys-kernel/mm-sources-2.6.21_rc2-r1
=sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.1
=net-misc/openssh-4.5_p1-r1
=x11-libs/cairo-1.3.16
=app-text/aspell-0.60.5
=app-dicts/aspell-eo-0.50.2
=dev-lang/php-5.1.6-r8
=media-plugins/live-2007.02.20
=media-video/kmplayer-0.9.4-r1
None of those seem particularly relevant ('cept /maybe/ cairo), but I
figured I'd give you the whole list so you can go searching if xcb-util
isn't the culprit.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems rebuilding gtk+ (and many other packages), due to not found /usr/lib/libXCBRenderUtil.la
On Monday 05 March 2007, "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Problems rebuilding gtk+ (and many other packages), due to not found /usr/lib/libXCBRenderUtil.la': > I'll let you know what my revdep-rebuild says. Following up, I had to rebuild: =dev-cpp/cairomm-1.2.2 =dev-cpp/gtkmm-2.10.6 =media-video/mjpegtools-1.9.0_rc1 but, had no problem doing so. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp6iBsajWQdN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems rebuilding gtk+ (and many other packages), due to not found /usr/lib/libXCBRenderUtil.la
On Monday 05 March 2007, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Problems rebuilding gtk+ (and many other packages), due to not found /usr/lib/libXCBRenderUtil.la': > Hello! > > I'm trying to rebuild gtk+-2.10.9 and this fails with: > > [...] > grep: /usr/lib/libXCBRenderUtil.la: No such file or directory > [...] > > (Many other packages also fail with this error message.) > > That's correct - this file does not exist (anymore?). Just guessing, but I'll bet it's x11-libs/libXrender. The ebuild in my tree dono't have an xcb USE flag, but it looks like your (and mine, my revdep-rebuild is complaing about this file being missing) libXrender have built an xcb library. I could be wrong. I'll let you know what my revdep-rebuild says. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpD5BpwHkse2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] problem emerging kde-meta
On Thursday 01 March 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] problem emerging kde-meta': > On Thursday 01 March 2007 22:54:43 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > Your problem is that you are trying to mix them. That is difficult or > > impossible and is AFAIK not supported. > > Quoting [1]: "Split and monolithic ebuilds can be mixed freely. The only > restriction is that a monolithic ebuild can't be installed at the same > time as a split ebuild deriving from it. There are blocking dependencies > in the ebuilds that enforce this, so you can do anything emerge allows > you to do." Sweet. I didn't know the Gentoo devs were that cool. The restriction is only logical. > I'm in favour of removing the monolithic > ebuilds too though. They seem to cause more confusion than they are > worth. :) Agreed. It's always possible for ebuild developers to depend on the -meta package until they can determine what individual libraries/apps/etc. they need from it. Unfortunately, until we get a good confcache-style program, emerging the -meta ebuild does take a bit longer than emerging the monolithic version. (Yes, I konw, this time is saved later on when you don't have to compile everything again for a later release.) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpZ7BEMFOWAe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] iptraf vs iptables (mangle & access)
On Thursday 01 March 2007, CapSel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] iptraf vs iptables (mangle & access)': > I'm trying to count bandwidth and number of packets on my router with > rules like: > > iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -j stats > iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j stats > > iptables -t mangle -A stats -p tcp -s $ip -j ACCEPT > iptables -t mangle -A stats -p udp -s $ip -j ACCEPT > iptables -t mangle -A stats -p icmp -s $ip -j ACCEPT > > iptables -t mangle -A stats -p tcp -d $ip -j ACCEPT > iptables -t mangle -A stats -p udp -d $ip -j ACCEPT > iptables -t mangle -A stats -p icmp -d $ip -j ACCEPT > > Chain stats has policy set to ACCEPT. > > My script reads these values every minute and sets them to zero. > The problem is that numbers of packets are more than twice greater than > iptraf shows, but bandwidth seems to be correct. That would be correct, since every forwarded packet passes though both the pre-routing and post-routing chains, so you are counting every packet (at least those that are not dropped in the FORWARD chain) twice. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpXRGGps6ybi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] problem emerging kde-meta
On Thursday 01 March 2007, Turi Tropea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] problem emerging kde-meta': > Bo Ørsted Andresen ha scritto: > > Just unmerge kdebase and you should be able to proceed... > > the kde related packages was installed by beryl and aquamarine...so if > i unmerge them can i cause that beryl does not work? > or how i can have a functional kde environment using the monolithic > ebuild? Monolithic or split ebuilds provide a functional kde environment and split ebuilds are the "new hotness" that should, at least IMO, be used by default. When (e.g.) all the split ebuilds pulled in by kdebase-meta are installed you have the same functionality as installing kdebase; so if beryl (or others) have a hard dependency on a monolithic package that package is broken and need to be fixed to work with the split ebuilds. (Changing the 'kde-base/kdebase' atom to '|| ( kde-base/kdebase-meta kdebase/kdebase)' is a start...) Your problem is that you are trying to mix them. That is difficult or impossible and is AFAIK not supported. Either remove all your monolithic packages and install the split equivalents (the -meta packages help here) or remove all your split packages and install all the monolithic packages you need. It's possible you may need to run revdep-rebuild (from the gentoolkit package) and/or reinstall keryl after you fix your kde issues for it to work. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp7zPu8Ji8OH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Can portage clean up after a failed installation?
On Thursday 01 March 2007, Jules Colding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Can portage clean up after a failed installation?': > I've just tried to install nexuiz. Unfortunately it failed with "[Errno > 28] No space left on device". > > I can see that some files was installed. Can portage clean those up by > itself or do I have to do it manually? Easier that manually, but still not ideal: # Free up some space emerge nexuiz emerge -C nexuiz -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp8f7LGkPHQv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Cedega no keyboard input
On Wednesday 28 February 2007 17:37:35 Dan Farrell wrote: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:55:17 -0600 > "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday 28 February 2007, Dan Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Cedega no keyboard input': > > > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:10:39 +0100 > > > Gyuszk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > It works for me under PWM > > > > It certainly possible, because despite clicking on numerous WC3 menus > > my WM would never deliver focus to the app > > Well, cedega works fine for me under fluxbox No gnome here, KDE 4 LIFE! ;) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp4qqPKZo2Y6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Cedega no keyboard input
On Wednesday 28 February 2007, Dan Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Cedega no keyboard input': > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:10:39 +0100 > Gyuszk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It works for me under PWM,which uses mouse hover focus rather than > mouse click focus for windows. Maybe that's the difference that > matters here - you don't have the window focused? It certainly possible, because despite clicking on numerous WC3 menus my WM would never deliver focus to the app (under the conditions outlined in my other email). I can't help but wonder if the way the DirectX HAL windows grab the mouse, the WMs never get click events? -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgppLPmXvfXmq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Cedega no keyboard input
On Wednesday 28 February 2007, Gyuszk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Cedega no keyboard input': > I'm playing a couple of games with Cedega (latest 5.2.10). My > problem: when using Cedega under X11+Gnome (or whatever window manager), > when I start a game (Warcraft III ROC, GTA San Andreas, Steam + CS 1.6, > whatever), there is no keyboard input. I can use mouse, but no keyboard > at all I was encountering a similar issue w/ my Cedega installation. It happened after I turned up my KDE "Focus stealing prevention" level. I was able to work around the problem by (after cedega had started the full-screen game) using alt-tab (or similar shortcut) to manually select to "DirectX HAL" (?) window. I was able to fix the problem by turning down that "Focus stealing prevention". HTH but YMMV. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpTdqq5JheOR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA_CARDS Variable in-kernel drivers?
On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Jakob Buchgraber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] ALSA_CARDS Variable in-kernel drivers?': > I just read about the required ALSA_CARDS variable when using in-kernel > drivers in the Gentoo Newsletter. Since I am using in-kernel ALSA > drivers I would like to know what changed and why this is required? Is > this explained somewhere? I am using vanilla-sources (not > gentoo-sources). So do I need to set ALSA_CARDS when using > vanilla-sources too? Flameeyes has been blogging about this. Basically, there are other packages (besides the out-of-tree kernel module package) that will now use this package to decide what to install. Please set it in /etc/make.conf appropriately. http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/02/17/alsa-and-disposable-power-tools http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/02/17/alsa-again-alsa-tools-cleanup http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/02/18/alsa-improvements-part-3 -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpb5PTSRSR9A.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What's the dmix equivalent these days?
On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] What's the dmix equivalent these days?': > On Tuesday 27 February 2007 06:54, Mick wrote: > > On Tuesday 27 February 2007 00:14, Jesús Guerrero wrote: > > > El Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:53:54 +0100 > > > Alex Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > > > Mick writes: > > > > > How am I supposed to specify sox? /usr/bin/sox doesn't play any > > > > > sound. > > > > > > > > Have a look at this "Do I really need aRts?" thread. > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-526080-highlight-arts.html > > > > > > Alternatively you can just use the script "/usr/bin/play", included > > > in the sox package. > > > > Cool! I seem to have missed this in man sox. It plays system sounds > > now nicely. > > Blast! I spoke too soon. It /usr/bin/play plays system sounds fine, by > alsa will not mix them. Do you have an alsa configuration file (e.g. /etc/asoundrc)? I used dmix a while back, and when it changed to being the default, my asoundrc broke playback. You might try deleting (or at least removing any dmix/dsnoop entries from) that file. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp58y76G8olo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Kwrite and CPU usage and locking up when scrolling
On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Kwrite and CPU usage and locking up when scrolling': > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Monday 26 February 2007, Dale wrote: > >> h, I have used less for a lot for things but not files this big. > >> I could wear out my page down key. > > > > big files the size of emerge.log (8M on my machine) is exactly what > > less excels at. The most useful key is of course "/" which lets you > > enter a string of text to search for, then 'q" to quit and "h" > > displays a help screen ' Close your single-quotes man! You've turned the rest of your post into a non-interpolated string! ;) > My thing is getting to the bottom of the page in one key stroke. Maybe > I need to man less and read a bit. :/ I believe 'G' should do this. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpJYXL7UywzP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding core dumps
On Monday 26 February 2007, Dan Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding core dumps': > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:39:27 -0500 > David Relson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:12:49 +0100 > > Christoph Nodes wrote: > > > I am using sys-libs/pam-0.78-r5. > > > > As best I know, it's the ulimit setting that's relevant and pam is not > > involved. > > AFAIK, pam is only for Authentication. There are a lot of tangential issues (like limits) that were traditionally controlled by the authentication "stack" on unix. PAM allows you to replace all of this, so there are indeed PAM modules that control limits. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpYXwVhMReOs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)
On Monday 26 February 2007, Dan Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)': > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:27:17 + (UTC) > Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2007-02-25, Joe Menola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sunday 25 February 2007 12:55 pm, Dan Farrell wrote: > > >> but 'IceWeasel' is ugly. Bon Echo is such a nice name. > > > > > > I'd prefer firefox_alt or something similar. Something that tells > > > me what it is > > > > Um, if you're not allowed to use the trademarked name > > "firefox", then calling it "firefox_alt" is also going to be a > > trademark violation. > > This reminds me of when it was called "FireBird", and then they had to > change the name becuase of trademark violations or something of the > sort. It was actually much less serious. Firebird is an open-source database that's been around (although not that popular) for longer than the mozilla project. The browser graciously decided, after notification (no posturing or threatening) by the database team not to overlap the names presumably to avoid confusing users. Now, that decision may have been made for a different reason. The company behind firefox probably wanted to be able to use the name as a trademark/brand at some point in the future and the pre-existing project may have undermind that. IIRC, there was also a similar issue with the name "Pheonix". -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpN1LaLVCcI2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems emerging gcc.
On Monday 26 February 2007 00:32:55 David Harel wrote: > Trying to emerge glibc I got error: > > configure: error: > *** These critical programs are missing or too old: gcc > *** Check the INSTALL file for required versions. > 1. What to do to fix glibc emerge? Probably change to a newer version of gcc. Perhaps the output of `gcc-config -l` would be useful here. > 2. Where is the file INSTALL reside? In the glibc tarball. emerge will have extracted that somewhere under /var/tmp/portage (or wherever your PORTAGE_TMPDIR is). > 2. Do I need all the older versions of gcc? No. (Or, probably not.) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp0cvmZX4W3C.pgp Description: PGP signature
[OT] Shamelessly copied (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 upgrade)
On Sunday 25 February 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 upgrade': > And please stop top-posting (shamelessly copied from one of Boyd's > posts..): I shamelessly copied it from someone else [*], so I don't really deserve the credit. I thought it was one of the Neils that first posted it (at least to the gentoo-* lists). > A: It reverses the reading order of the conversation. > Q: Why's top-posting so bad? > A: Top-posting and insufficient quote trimming. > Q: What's the most annoying thing on mailing lists and USENET? -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! [*] Well, I actually retype it each time so it changes a bit... I'm still searching for the optimal wording. pgpOzVFRaJYSu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] swiching from gnome to gnome-light
On Sunday 25 February 2007, JC D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] swiching from gnome to gnome-light': > I am planning of switching from gnome to gnome-light. How can I unmerge > gnome and in particular remove all packages like games, gnumeric, > abiword and so on. I found that I actually do not use them so I think > gnome-light should be enough. emerge -C gnome emerge gnome-light emerge -a --depclean -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpTK3mMQmwJK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ot - video encoding
On Saturday 24 February 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] ot - video encoding': > Hi List im looking for a program to encode from avi to divx does anyone > know of a program to do this? Short answer: mencoder Longer answer: (1) Avi is not a format -- or at least it's not a video format. It's a "wrapper" format that can hold various video formats with various audio formats interleaved. AVI = Audio/Video Interleave (2) Mplayer and Xine are the big a/v decoders, with ffmpeg being used by both projects (IIRC); vlc is a very useful third place, and gstreamer does have some "native" codecs although it can (and IIRC, still generally does) call out to the xine, mplayer, or ffmpeg libraries for some formats. (3) Encoders are much more fragmented, although ffmpeg provides many encoders, and mplayer can use the ffmpeg encoders as well as any native ones it might have, plus it understands the libraries (or interfaces via system() calls) with some others. Xine, vlc, and gstreamer are, AFAIK not oriented towards encoding. (4) Divx is just an video format and if you intend to combine it with audio, you'll have to choose a format for that. I prefer vorbis; with speex for those cases where is audio is literally just a voice-over. However, vorbis and speex decoders generally aren't shipped with proprietary OSes such as OS X or Windows and are playable on relatively few portable devices. MP3 is fine for mono or stereo audio, but AFAIK it doesn't support more channels. AC3 is IME larger for the same quality, but does support 5.1 and other formats with more channels. (5) Again, divx is just a video format, so you'll need a container format if you want to combine it with other media, like subtitles or audio. I prefer Matroska or ogg. Neither is shipped with proprietary OSes and both have poor support on portables, although ogg has marginally better support than Matroska. I don't believe divx is can be shipped in the standard mp4 container, but I could be wrong. It's normally shipped in, oddly enough in your case, AVI format. So, you have a couple more high-level decisions to make before you transcode. Once you decide on them, you'll still need to determine encoder-specific parameters, bitrates, and whotnot, although sane defaults are generally provided by most tools when possible. However, the shear number of options may be a little bit overwhelming. Tip: doesn't change any settings you don't have to the first time, you can play with all the "knobs" once you get base functionality. Mencoder is probably is most featureful transcoding tool, but you may be able to find a GUI that the features you need and is user-friendly. I don't do enough transcoding to have any recommendations other than mencoder, because I got familiar enough with it to do what I needed and stopped looking for anything else. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpoSL5nLuQgP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] coda auto-login
On Friday 23 February 2007 22:18, Jürgen Geuter wrote: > On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 02:39 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > > If you need to execute something put it to > > > /etc/conf.d/local.start or > > > /etc/conf.d/local.stop > > > > Does not fully work, since some services require the coda > > volumes mounted. So my only idea was to change /etc/init.d/venus Modify those init scripts, adding or changing a 'depends' line. By default init scripts are config protected so your changes will not be overwritten willy-nilly. > > But: there's another problem. Every user has to log into coda > > by its own. This is bad if all user's homedirs should sit on coda. > > Put the login thingy as first line in a .-File that is executed upon > login for every user. .bashrc or something. If it is really something every local user needs to do, throw it in /etc/profile.d -- those files are sourced by /etc/profile, which is read by sh, bash, and zsh (at least), for all (?) shells. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp6GVo9GKc88.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [Off Topic] screen configuration...
On Friday 23 February 2007 17:40, Steve [Gentoo] wrote: > I want to use screen, but my emacs-afflicted fingers automatically type > "control-a" to go to the beginning of the line in my shell - which is > somewhat unfortunate for screen. Amen. Luckily I'm not an emacs user, so I quickly broke myself of that bash habit. (I happily hit home or esc,^ now.) > I assume from the manual that I can re-bind keys to avoid this > problem... my first guess was to bung "bind '^a'" into my .screenrc - > but that doesn't do the trick. Does anyone here have the correct > incantation? Pull up the screen.info file, and goto the 'Command Character' node. I'm thinking you probably want to mess with the escape or defescape commands, probably throwing them into your screenrc or somesuch. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp8QdAO7BAdJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Delete or bksp?
On Friday 23 February 2007, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Delete or bksp?': > And please turn off the HTML posting. Aha! That's why I couldn't read his messages. I just assumed he'd encrypted them or something, so I was ignoring them. ;) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp24ybKR1aDL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
On Thursday 22 February 2007 23:14, paulie.x wrote:
> Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napsal(a):
> > On Thursday 22 February 2007, jcd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> >
> > about '[gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding':
> >> Hi.
> >> I converted my system to UNICODE with assistance
> >> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Make_your_system_use_unicode/utf-8.
> >> But my man-pages are
> >> still displayed with bad characters ('á' is 'á') in console even in X
> >> terminal emulator.
> >>
> >> I tried to changed line in
> >> /etc/make.conf:
> >> Code:
> >> NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc
I don't have a line that looks anything like that in my make.conf
> >> to
> >> Code:
> >> NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc
> >
> > 1) Those lines aren't the correct format for make.conf. Normally,
you'd
> > use something like:
> > VARIABLE="value"
> >
> > 2) NROFF isn't a valid make.conf variable. See the make.conf(5)
manpage
> > for a list of valid make.conf variables.
> >
> > I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to do, but I think it's more
> > likely controlled by an nroff USE flag or configuration file than a
> > portage configuration files.
>
> OK. If it isn't correct format and NROFF isn't valid variable, then it is
> bug in gentoo package, because I just changed the parameters to
> /usr/bin/nroff. I also didn't find any suitale USE flag.
It's possible that you need to add this variable to some file
under /etc/env.d, or perhaps add a global alias and/or function
in /etc/profile.d, or maybe an nroff or man or other package configuration
file. I suppose make.conf could be used, but I'm fairly certain those
variables aren't guaranteed to filter down to any subprocesses -- they are
only meant to affect the behavior of ebuilds.
In /etc/env.d or /etc/make.conf you'll use the VARIABLE="value" syntax.
In /etc/profile.d anything bash can handle will work. For another
configuration file, it might be totally different.
In any case, most packages don't provide a generic way to modify their
default
parameters (via environment variables or anything else), and I would guess
that setting the NROFF variable to some value wouldn't actually change the
way the nroff binary worked (but it could!).
It could very well be a bug but, you are going to have to be more specific
about the behavior you are trying to achieve with that "make.conf" setting.
Feel free to file at b.g.o. if you think this is a failing of the package
or
the portage system.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo way of handling pre-built kernels
On Friday 23 February 2007, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo way of handling pre-built kernels': > On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:42:17 +0100, Robert Szentmihalyi wrote: > > I have successfully deployed Gentoo on about 30 desktop PCs in a > > corporate environment. > > Now, as I need to update the kernel on those PCs, I wonder if there is > > a standard Gentoo way (maybe a script or something), that people are > > using to build and deploy binary kernel packages. > > Even better, if the > machines are all networked, push the changes out with rsync then use > tentakel (or a for loop) to reboot each box. Or, push the kernel (with included initramfs) out via netboot, and after mounting the root filesystem, copy the modules into place. If you have a large number of modules (too big to fit inside the kernel image), push them with rsync (or similar) to the client machines, either from within the initramfs or with an initscript that starts before any others. > You could also put this in an update script on each of the boxes then > use tentakel to run it on some or all of them. tentakel (in portage) is > a handy way of running the same command on a group of machines, and you > can set up named groups and subgroups to make life even easier. Never used tentakel, but IIRC there's another parallel-shell tools available that works over rsh/rlogin/ssh called psh. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp1D4cJ4NM6j.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
On Thursday 22 February 2007, jcd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
about '[gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding':
> Hi.
> I converted my system to UNICODE with assistance
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Make_your_system_use_unicode/utf-8.
> But my man-pages are
> still displayed with bad characters ('á' is 'á') in console even in X
> terminal emulator.
> I tried to changed line in
> /etc/make.conf:
> Code:
> NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc
>
> to
> Code:
> NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc
>
> and also according to comments to
> Code:
> NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc.
1) Those lines aren't the correct format for make.conf. Normally, you'd
use something like:
VARIABLE="value"
2) NROFF isn't a valid make.conf variable. See the make.conf(5) manpage
for a list of valid make.conf variables.
I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to do, but I think it's more
likely controlled by an nroff USE flag or configuration file than a
portage configuration files.
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Re: [gentoo-user] ramfs - is it necessary ???
On Thursday 22 February 2007 01:45, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Thursday 22 February 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Wednesday 21 February 2007, "pat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about > > 'Re: > > > > [gentoo-user] ramfs - is it necessary ???': > > First, I think the OP is confused between ramfs and initramfs.Not quite > the same thing... Yeah, I hoped I cleared that up with my first reply. > But the thread has become about initramfs so we'll stick with that I think this is more what the OP was concerned about. > And the OP should keep in mind that the initrd format was dumped many > many kernel versions ago and these days we use initramfs, I am fairly certain I was still using my custom initrd (not an initramfs) until 2.6.17 -- I'm fairly sure 2.6.20 still *supports* initrd format, even if initramfs is preferred now. For the life of me, I always found it easier to get an initrd working rather than an initramfs -- the whole chroot/exec vs. pivot_root vs. switch_root step always failed for me when using an initramfs (and the very same shell script worked as an initrd). Also, a script-made initrd is still just a compressed filesystem, easy to deal with, but a script-made initramfs (particularly one made by genkernel) is not just a cpio archive, it's a series of them separated by some KERNEL_MAGIC strings in the middle of binary data -- nearly impossible to work with using standard tools. At least, that's been my experience, others may have found the process easier. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpYalkCWBjbp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ramfs - is it necessary ???
On Thursday 22 February 2007 01:58, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Or you could dp it the way Boyd does it - with his / on an lvm group. To > do that he needs an initramfs which has drivers for at least his disk > bus, his disk adapter, the filesystem on / and lvm before his kernel > can access /. Genkernel is just an easy automated way to do that. Or it would be, but the last initramfs it generated for me wouldn't start my md0 (whole-disk software RAID via mdadm) device, which is part of the volume group holding /. [I should try again, perhaps genkernel has gotten smart enough to read my mdadm.conf, ala Debian, and start whole-disk software RAID.] Right now, I get dumped to a shell prompt inside the initramfs each time my system boots, I then have to start my volume group manually in partial mode to get (RO) access to the block device / is on. [I don't seem to even have the right tools inside the initramfs to bring up whole-disk software RAID, or at least I haven't figured out how.] Then Gentoo tries to boot but fails because it can't mount / as RW (lvm marks lvs in vgs started in partial mode as RO block devices) although it doesn't bail out quickly, so it thinks certain services (like localmount) have started when they haven't. I then log in as root and bring all the lvs to RW status, remount /, restart the 3-4 services that Gentoo thinks are up, and let it continue. In short, my boot process is fsck'd, but I don't reboot enough to have it really bother me. But, this thread isn't really about my troubles even if some of my setup *is* useful as examples of why you might need an initramfs. [My fsck'd setup also shows how powerful the layered startup in *nix is. Failing to find your C: drive in Windows is not really recoverable without boot media.] -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpA5gyNeR54c.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless PCI Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11 - Driver Problem
On Thursday 22 February 2007 02:53, Richard Watson wrote: (I'm just going to assume you've got the right package / module; I don't know anything about it particular hardware and your choices seem appropriate.) > So I > # emerge ralink-rt61 > # slocate rt61.ko > /lib/modules/2.6.17-gentoo-r8/net/rt61.ko > # modprobe rt61 > FATAL: Module rt61 not found > > What should I do next? ls -l /usr/src/linux uname -r (I think it's likely you never fixed up your /usr/src/linux symlink and ralink-rt61 is being compiled against the wrong kernel.) You might consider butting something like: ln -snf linux-"$(uname -r)" /usr/src/linux in local.start to fix up your kernel symlink on each boot. (Though, I hate to think what that would do if /usr/src/linux was a directory rather than a symlink.) > Do I need to recompile my kernel and if so are there > any options I need to ensure are selected (or not)? Probably not, but if you are actually running 2.6.17-gentoo-r8, then I'll need to see the output of dmesg around the time you modprobed rt61. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpjrqdHBQLeb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ramfs - is it necessary ???
On Wednesday 21 February 2007 18:39, pat wrote: > On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:13:56 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote > > initrd/initramfs is mostly for distributions who want to compile > > everything as module, people with strange settings (like some kind > > of raid), or people too stupid to build their own kernel. > > ... so the initramfs is not necessary for the SATA drive when it is not a > module ??? Because I think I need it because of the SATA drive. You really didn't need those extra two question marks. Anyway, if you'll compile the driver for your SATA controller (that runs the drive that holds '/') into the kernel and you don't have an exotic setup (software RAID/LVM/EVMS), you won't need an initrd/initramfs. Depending on how your software RAID is set up you may not need a initrd/initramfs for that either. (Linux won't autostart my software RAID because I raid together two whole drives instead of multiple partitions.) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp7ujROakz45.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ramfs - is it necessary ???
On Wednesday 21 February 2007 18:41, pat wrote: > P.S. Question is what should be part of the initramfs :-| Any modules or userland utilities needed to mount your '/' filesystem, plus all the libraries and other utilities they depend on, plus a linuxrc or init script that will actually do the preparation, mount the filesystem, chroot/pivot_root/switch_root, and exec() the real /sbin/init binary. Actually, you can put *anything* you want to in the initramfs... embeded linux might never leave the initramfs. PS: A: It reverses the reading order of the conversation. Q: Why's top-posting so bad? A: Top-posting and insufficient quote trimming. Q: What's the most annoying thing on mailing lists and USENET? Please don't top-post. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpXrwdZ5KZm7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ramfs - is it necessary ???
On Wednesday 21 February 2007, "Hemmann, Volker Armin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] ramfs - is it necessary ???': > On Mittwoch, 21. Februar 2007, pat wrote: > > My question is if this is realy necessary and if > > not, what I have to do. And if it is necessary where I can find good > > documentation (samples, explanation, etc.). > > you don't need initrd. You don't need initramfs. You don't need to use > genkernel (IMHO genkernel is evil). And you don't need ramfs. That's my experience with genkernel as well. > initrd/initramfs is mostly for distributions who want to compile > everything as module, people with strange settings (like some kind of > raid), or people too stupid to build their own kernel. If you build your > kernel and build everything you need to boot into it, you can live > without that crap. I need it because my '/' in on an LVM device which does require some userland tools to setup. initrd/ramfs really isn't "crap", but they are generally unnecessary (unless you have '/' on EVMS/LVM/software-RAID) on Gentoo. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp4GBBupdnGc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ramfs - is it necessary ???
On Wednesday 21 February 2007, "pat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] ramfs - is it necessary ???': > OK, so I have to search for ramfs. What tool is used to create initramsf > file for boot or how to compile it into kernel and how to use it with > grub ??? Each distro has their own, although I think they were mostly spawned from mkinitrd from RedHat. I believe genkernel now creates initramfs (as opposed to initrd) files, and may have support for compiling the initramfs into the kernel. grub/lilo/xen loads an initramfs exactly the same as an initrd -- the kernel determines how to use the uncompressed data by looking for a cpio header. > Yes, start with kernel documentation ... but something quicker ??? :-) Not that I've found. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpPlTy904K7q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation
On Wednesday 21 February 2007, "Scott W. McMikle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation': > I > thought perhaps that I would have to give up Gentoo until such time that > my Linux skills have improved. Worst case, you'll get instructions you don't understand and you'll have to ask us how to do use them. :) The best way to develop you linux skills is to use them. :) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpGGvI145229.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ramfs - is it necessary ???
On Wednesday 21 February 2007, pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] ramfs - is it necessary ???': > And if it is necessary where I can find good documentation > (samples, explanation, etc.). Pretty much all of the documenation on "early userspace" is in the kernel tree. You might even want to emerge the kernel with the 'doc' use flag, to get full (HTML?) documentation, although some of it is in simple plain text (rather than docbook) and available w/o that flag. > And next question is: hat is difference between ramfs and initrd ??? Is > it the same thing or not ... ??? initrd is the old way. A compressed (usually ext2) filesystem used to load kernel modules, or otherwise initialize things before mounting the root filesystem. initramfs is the new way. A compressed series of cpio archives (with some special treatment) for the same purpose. Both use ram-backed block devices. initrd doesn't need ramfs or tmpfs. I think an initramfs can use either, but it might require ramfs. An initramfs can be compiled into the kernel, either can be a separate file loaded by grub/lilo/xen. ramfs is a fixed-size ram-backed file system. tmpfs is a newer, better way to do this. It has a maximum size (which can be changed by a remount) but will only allocate enough ram to hold what is currently placed on the filesystem. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp6xyZaCwbzM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation
On Wednesday 21 February 2007, "Scott W. McMikle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Recommendation': > I have found myself > quickly over my head and now I begin to wonder if I am not quite ready > for Gentoo. What would you all recommend? Ask good specific, questions early and often. Use all the Gentoo support options (IRC/email/forums) and read the wiki. Have another, working system available (dual-boot maybe) until you trust your Gentoo system. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpXN5WypOjCF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Simple Linux Router on a live CD?
On Wednesday 21 February 2007, Peter Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Simple Linux Router on a live CD?': > On Wednesday 21 February 2007 16:03, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > More seriously, there is such a thing as a bad question, and they > > significantly outnumber the good. Most questions provide too little > > information to get a really useful answer. > > That may well be true, but it doesn't make the question invalid - just > perhaps in the wrong forum. It doesn't make the question invalid, at all. But, it does reduce the amount of responses you get AND limit their quality, no matter what medium is used. AFAIK, no one on IRC/email/forums is getting paid to do Gentoo support, so when answering a question is too much work, we can just skip it. If we have to guess to much of your setup or list a large number of possible problems (because we don't know which ones it isn't) or enter a longer dialog to get the information to solve the problem, you might just get skipped. While ESR is sometimes full of crap, he does have good guide on how to ask questions that will attract good answers: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > So, and I ask this as an honest question, is it generally accepted that > the level of technical knowledge expected on this list is higher than, > say, on the forums? Or the IRC channels? I tend to think that technically savvy users will migrate to email/IRC, but I don't have any foundation for that belief. That probably me just being elitist. I've always thought that web forums generally suck as a medium. > I'm relatively new to the Gentoo community, though not to online or > computing communities generally, and am finding that there are a lot > more unspoken norms or rules than I am used to (or perhaps the seasoned > members are less forgiving of them being broken), which can be quite a > disincentive to a newcomer. Hrm, I can't say there are many more rules here than on my other mailing lists, but there are a number of informal rules that are NOT laid out in any FAQ or welcome message. It would be helpful for at least some people if we would let them know about our 5 pillars: "Plain-Text Only", "No Top-Posting", "No Thread Hijacking", "Attachments Only By Request (and consider private mail)", and "Trim Quoted Material". -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpLduR6Cqciw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why does not startx or xinit start gnome?
On Wednesday 21 February 2007, John covici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > 'why does not startx or xinit start gnome?': Because I want to use KDE. Seriously though, Gentoo allows you to set up your .xsession manually and 'startx' should use it. I know KDE also provides a 'startkde' script that will start X and bring up the "standard" KDE stuff like kicker, kwin, and kdesktop. Maybe Gnome has something similar, or at least a xsession that you can edit and use? -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpByKDibqJCC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] HP Cluster on Gentoo
On Tuesday 20 February 2007, Hans-Stefan Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] HP Cluster on Gentoo': > Hallo, > > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. schrieb: > > On Monday 19 February 2007 02:47, Hans-Stefan Bauer wrote: > >> storm1 hsbauer # /etc/init.d/gfs start > >> * Starting gfs cluster: > >> * Loading lock_dlm kernel module ... > >> FATAL: Error inserting lock_dlm > >> (/fs/gfs_locking/lock_dlm/lock_dlm.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or > >> unknown parameter (see dmesg) > >> * Failed to load lock_dlm kernel > >> module [ !! ] > > > > Check your kernel configuration, particularly the "Distributed Lock > > Manager" > > option, CONFIG_DLM. You may need that part of mainline so that your > > out-of-tree module works. > > Thank you for the fast answer. I looked into the file > "/usr/src/linux/.config". There is no variable CONFIG_DLM in it. Also > with a "make menuconfig" I did not find a possibility to select it. Here's the search results against my running kernel (2.6.19-gentoo-r2). Symbol: DLM [=n] Prompt: Distributed Lock Manager (DLM) Defined at fs/dlm/Kconfig:4 Depends on: INET && IP_SCTP && EXPERIMENTAL && (IPV6 || IPV6=n) Location: -> File systems -> Distributed Lock Manager Selects: CONFIGFS_FS Selected by: GFS2_FS_LOCKING_DLM && BLOCK && GFS2_FS I was unable to find it in my older kernel (2.6.18-gentoo), so perhaps a kernel upgrade could solve (part of) your issue. Of course, any out-of-tree modules will have to be compiled after you fix up your /usr/src/linux symlink. 'module-rebuild' can help with that. 2.6.19-gentoo-r2 also provides: Symbol: GFS2_FS_LOCKING_DLM [=n] Prompt: GFS2 DLM locking module Defined at fs/gfs2/Kconfig:34 Depends on: BLOCK && GFS2_FS Location: -> File systems -> GFS2 file system support (GFS2_FS [=n]) Selects: DLM Which probably makes sys-cluster/gfs-kernel unecessary, too. > >> Apart from the occurring problem it is strange for me that emerge > >> installs the kernel module into the root directory of the system (see > >> error message above) and not into "/lib/modules/..." as I would > >> expect. > > > > Hrm, double-check (by looking at your filesystem) to make sure it's in > > the wrong place. If so, please file a bug, that behavior is broken. > > I redirected the output of an emerge into a file with the following > command: I might look at this, but the easiest way to see if it's in the wrong location is just find it on the filesystem. (I don't trust the output of emerge all the time anyway -- some packages do stupid things like ignoring $ROOT and whotnot.) > >>> /cluster/dlm.ko Hrm, make sure this is modprobed before gfs tries to load lock_dlm. That might solve your issue without a kernel upgrade. In my first post, I didn't consider the fact that you have sys-cluster/dlm-kernel (which provides the out-of-tree dlm.ko) despite the fact that you mentioned it. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpH0FgcuHt9k.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild question
On Monday 19 February 2007, "Mark Knecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild question': > On 2/19/07, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday 19 February 2007, Mark Knecht wrote: > > >I'm not clear why revdep-rebuild is showing lots of broken > > > linkages but then telling me everything is in order and there is no > > > work to do to clean up the system. > > > > > >I haven't seen this before. What's causing it? > > > > They might be orphan binaries from a previous incomplete unmerge, or > > something locally compiled, or even files installed from a foreign > > package system (.tgz or .rpm perhaps?) > >Seems reasonable. Would I (Could I?) then do an equery depends on > each binary and assuming nothing depends on it remove them by hand > without causing damage? Probably want to do a (b)elongs instead of a (d)epends, but yes, assuming you aren't maintaining those binaries outside of portage's control. (E.g. locally compiled or from a foreign package system.) >I'd want to do another revdep-rebuild every so often to ensure that > things remained consistent. Yep. revdep-rebuild used to be part of my daily system maintenance script (and will be put back once I figure out a good way to use paludis instead of emerge for the remerge part). -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpugatwnXcfG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage world update fails because of masked beryl-plugins
On Monday 19 February 2007, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Portage world update fails because of masked beryl-plugins': > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napisał(a): > > So, you can simply find the KEYWORDS variable in the ebuild you are > > trying to use and add one of those keywords to your package.keywords. > > To my surprise, the output is: > > KEYWORDS="" > > There are... No keywords? I'm puzzled. I'm using x86 architecture. > Should I then edit the ebuild and manually add my arch to KEYWORD > variable? I'm just guessing - maybe it will help somehow. Ah, hrm. I believe in the future you will be able to accept this package by using the special keyword "*", but that doesn't work right now. I'm not sure though. You could edit the ebuild, but put it in a non-sync'd overlay or it will get blown away next time you sync that repository/overlay. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpErq79yxVEE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] HP Cluster on Gentoo
On Monday 19 February 2007 02:47, Hans-Stefan Bauer wrote: > storm1 hsbauer # /etc/init.d/gfs start > * Starting gfs cluster: > * Loading lock_dlm kernel module ... > FATAL: Error inserting lock_dlm (/fs/gfs_locking/lock_dlm/lock_dlm.ko): > Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) > * Failed to load lock_dlm kernel > module [ !! ] Check your kernel configuration, particularly the "Distributed Lock Manager" option, CONFIG_DLM. You may need that part of mainline so that your out-of-tree module works. > Apart from the occurring problem it is strange for me that emerge > installs the kernel module into the root directory of the system (see > error message above) and not into "/lib/modules/..." as I would expect. Hrm, double-check (by looking at your filesystem) to make sure it's in the wrong place. If so, please file a bug, that behavior is broken. By the way, the format of your question was excellent, IMHO. It had the right information about how your Gentoo system is set up and the exact, initial error message. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpCyPMzRlRRW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage world update fails because of masked beryl-plugins
On Sunday 18 February 2007, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Portage world update fails because of masked
beryl-plugins':
> >>> x11-plugins/beryl-plugins-0.1.99.2 (masked by: missing keyword)
>
> I've tried to unmask it with keywords "~x86", "~*", "*" and even "-*"
> but still I've got the same error. I'm afraid that * wildcard isn't
> working and I can't guess the correct keyword. Have you got any further
> suggestions?
I don't have an ebuild for that version on beryl, so I can't tell you what
keywords can be used. But, I can tell you how to find out.
e.g.:
$ grep KEYWORD beryl-plugins-0.1.3.ebuild
KEYWORDS="~amd64 ~ppc ~ppc64 ~x86"
So, you can simply find the KEYWORDS variable in the ebuild you are trying
to use and add one of those keywords to your package.keywords. Of course,
if you do anything other than ~${ARCH}, where ${ARCH} is your current
architecture and it breaks, you get to keep both pieces.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage world update fails because of masked beryl-plugins
On Sunday 18 February 2007, Jakob Buchgraber
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Portage
world update fails because of masked beryl-plugins':
> So you need to replace the following in package.keywords
> x11-plugins/beryl-plugins
> by
> x11-plugins/beryl-plugins ~x86
If you are on x86, those two lines mean exactly the same thing in
package.keywords.
> If you are using another architecture than x86 (like amd64) you need to
> write ~amd64 instead
Or, you could simply leave off the keyword, like he has and have it treated
like ~${ARCH}, where ${ARCH} is your current architecture.
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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 3.4.6 vs. 4.1.1
On Wednesday 14 February 2007, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] gcc 3.4.6 vs. 4.1.1': > All of my gentoo systems have both gcc 3.4 and 4.1 but still > use 3.4 for everything except packages that just won't build > with gcc 3.4. > > I'm curious what other people are doing. Have most people > switched over to 4.1 as their "main" compiler? I switched completely over to gcc 4.x before it when stable in the tree, it started producing better binaries for most applications than gcc 3.4 faster just a little before 4.1.0 came out. I believe there's still at least one package that doesn't build with gcc 4.x (kqemu), so there's some reason to still stay on 3.4 if you are cautious. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpaaIxcs3SHH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] _syscallX isn't in linux-headers-2.6.20 ??
On Wednesday 07 February 2007 18:53, Iain Buchanan wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm trying to use: > > _syscall3(int, ioprio_set, int, which, int, who, int, ioprio); > _syscall2(int, ioprio_get, int, which, int, who); > > and supposedly I just > > #include > > but I'm getting these error from gcc: > > error: syntax error before "ioprio_set" > warning: data definition has no type or storage class > error: syntax error before "ioprio_get" > warning: data definition has no type or storage class > > so I had a look in /usr/include/linux/unistd.h and it doesn't even have > _syscall in there!! It's in /usr/src/linux though... That means that the kernel devs have decided that API is not userland safe. In recent kernels, there's a specific 'headers' (or somesuch) make target, that generates .h files that are appropriate to use in userland. If you need access to APIs that aren't in those headers, you should be writing a kernel module, or convincing the kernel developers to expose these APIs to userland. Your kernel module may need be only a tiny stub, just something to go between your userland and the non-userland-safe APIs. > Am I doing something wrong? It's possible you just need another header. It also possible that there's a different entry point now. I seem to remember the location of the syscall table is recently changed to something like randomized per-process at some point in the 2.6.1x line. That may have changed how you need to be calling things. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp9ea0BL7sPE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Kwrite and CPU usage and locking up when scrolling
On Monday 05 February 2007 22:41, Dale wrote:
> Dale wrote:
> >> Calculating dependencies... done!
> >> [ebuild U ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.6-r2 [3.5.5-r7] USE="acl alsa
> >> arts cups doc fam jpeg2k spell ssl tiff -avahi -debug -kdeenablefinal
> >> -kdehiddenvisibility -kerberos -legacyssl -lua -openexr -utempter
> >> -xinerama -zeroconf" LINGUAS="-he" 15,186 kB
> >> [ebuild U ] kde-base/kate-3.5.6 [3.5.5-r1] USE="arts -debug
> >> -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama" 23,589 kB
> >
> > That version works fine.
>
> Well, I'm trying to mask this so it will not upgrade when I do updates.
> I must be missing something here. When I did the pretend downgrade it
> pulled kdelibs down one version too. So I want to make it so that
> kdelibs and kate will stay at 3.5.5 versions. This is what I added to
>
> package.mask:
> > =kde-base/kate-3.5.6
> > =kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.6-r2
>
> That way if there is a new release it will upgrade and hopefully it will
> be fixed. However, this is what happens when I check for updates:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -uvDp world
> >
> > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> >
> > Calculating world dependencies \
> > !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "~kde-base/kate-3.5.6" have been
> > masked.
> > !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
> > request:
> > - kde-base/kate-3.5.6 (masked by: package.mask)
> >
> > For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man
> > page or
> > refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
> > (dependency required by "kde-base/kdebase-meta-3.5.6" [ebuild])
> >
>
> Do I need to mask kde-meta too or is there some other way around this??
> < scratches head >
Bringing kde-meta up to version 3.5.6 is going to want to upgrade ALL it's
dependencies to 3.5.6 (which includes kate).
To maintain different versions of of the various KDE packages, you'll need
to
remove the kde-meta package. To make sure 'emerge -u world' (or a
variant),
pulls in new version of other packages, you'll want to 'emerge -n' the
various direct dependencies of kde-meta (kdenetwork-meta etc).
I doubt kate is a direct dependency of kde-meta (I could be wrong). If it
isn't, one (or more) of the other kde${stuff}-meta packages will also try
to
upgrade it. Instead of 'emerge -n'-ing those packages, 'emerge -n' it's
direct dependencies (one of which should be kate).
You may actually find some packages that you don't care about, feel free to
not 'emerge -n' them. They will then not be updated by an 'emerge -u
world'
and my be removed be 'emerge --depclean' (unless they are a dependency of
some other package in world)
In fact, I recently removed all the kde${stuff}-meta packages from my
system
and only installed the KDE applications I wanted. This might result in
significant disk space savings, but YMMV. I now have ~90 packages from the
kde-base category instead of the ~350 pulled in by kde-meta.
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[gentoo-user] Mails getting lost?
Are my mails to the list getting to anyone else? I'm not seeing them myself, and I wanted to make sure they weren't disappearing into the ether. I checked that I could email myself directly, so I don't think it's a problem on this side, but I sent a helpful reply about kde-meta and kate earlier today and I still haven't seen it yet. Same with a comment I sent to gentoo-desktop around the same time. Before anyone asks, no, I am not using gmail. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp7FBQhffdcD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Email from Mac to PC/Win
On Friday 02 February 2007 09:55, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Email from Mac to PC/Win': > While we're at it, my 2007 Hyundai Getz 1400 is running rough for the > first few minutes in the morning. Any of you gentooites know how to fix > this? Cold where you are? Double check your fluid levels. If they are all fine, what weight oil are you using? -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpuoULrKARYH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/
On Friday 02 February 2007 09:42, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/': > Any insider tidbits > on liveCD 2007.0 ??? I've not been hearing anything about it good or bad, so I still expect it sometime in February. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpZuEUfvILCN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 09:58, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles': > On Wednesday 31 January 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > > Furthermore Pentium 4 is a joke (it performs horribly). A 2 GHz > > (Dothan I presume) Pentium-M should be faster than a 2,8 GHz Pentium > > 4. My timing is for an 1,6 GHz (Banias) Pentium-M btw. > > This sounds odd, but I'm not a cpu expert so can't really comment. Care > to elaborate on why the P4 performs so horribly? The instruction pipeline is very long, the CPU <-> RAM bandwith is quite small, and the pipeline has to be emptied any time the branch predictor is wrong. While the pipeline fills, the CPU works but no results are visible. Hz has never been a complete trump of other issues affecting CPU performance, but is always a factor to consider. (Among CPUs that are otherwise identical, higher Hz wins.) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpSNP3nVPY4k.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Licenses
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 11:14, Peter Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Licenses': > On 00:54 Wed 17 Jan , Fredrik Tolf wrote: > > Btw., shouldn't portage have some kind of flag to at least warn if a > > proprietary package is being pulled in through dependencies? > > Have you taken a look at GLEP 23? Yeah. It had already been proposed when I installed Gentoo the first time: in 2004. Don't hold your breath. > I for one hope that this gets > implemented pretty soon. :-) There does appear to have been some forward progress, which is good. It languished for over two years without progress at one point. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgp3E4wXuur9c.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] System reporting information
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 11:45, "Anthony E. Caudel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] System reporting information': > I seem to remember some time back some discussion about a script or > program that would examine a gentoo system and create a report on > packages installed, make.conf contents, and other relevant information > that might be of help to the devs. No personal info would be collected. > > Am I imagining this? Would this info be of help to the devs? There was at one point a gentoo-stats package/project, but I don't think it's currently in a usable state. There's also http://www.linux-stats.org/ (and it's matching package: list) which generates some Gentoo-specific statistics. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpGjB9KyCzEw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerging php with mysql and recode support
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 02:27, Stefán István <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] emerging php with mysql and recode support': > I tried to re-emerge php because I need to be compiled with the 'recode' > use flag, but I get this error: > > * USE flag 'recode' conflicts with these USE flag(s): > *mysql > > What shall I do if I need both mysql and recode support in php? File a bug, and be prepared with a patch -- cause there's probably a good reason they are considered "conflicting". It's likely your patch will have to be applied to the tarball from upstream to fix either the code or the build system to accept both options. It's also likely that the two flags conflict because of a previous bug (it was a non-trivial amount of work to identify conflicting flags at one point) so that's at least one regression test your patch must pass. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpjgDl4eb4nb.pgp Description: PGP signature
