[Gimp-user] Reply via List Headers [was: Re: Calm and rational Save/Export workflow report ; )]

2012-05-11 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Richard Gitschlag strata_ran...@hotmail.com
 
 Then the real question is why every time I hit Reply, Hotmail prefills my
 form with the individual user's email instead of the mailing list's, and I
 have to change it every time before hitting Send.  GIMP or otherwise, 
 minor impediments like these are quite annoying.

That probably happens because Hotmail doesn't handle the List headers that are 
part of each message, e.g.:

List-Id: GIMP Developer List gimp-developer-list.gnome.org
List-Unsubscribe: http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/options/gimp-developer-list, 
mailto:gimp-developer-list-requ...@gnome.org?subject=unsubscribe
List-Archive: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/
List-Post: mailto:gimp-developer-l...@gnome.org
List-Help: mailto:gimp-developer-list-requ...@gnome.org?subject=help
List-Subscribe: http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list, 
mailto:gimp-developer-list-requ...@gnome.org?subject=subscribe


It should be rather easy for Hotmail's developers with their near limitless 
resources to implement a List Reply feature (or make Reply behave differently 
for list mails, although this may break other users' expectations). Additional 
features like links to the archive, unsubscribe or subscribe would be possible 
as well.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Reply via List Headers

2012-05-11 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Jay Smith j...@jaysmith.com
 
 Michael,
 
 I use Thunderbird 3.1.10 -- not the latest version, but quite happy with 
 it.  This version of Thunderbird does the same thing (replies to the 
 individual poster, instead of the list).

There are or have been extensions to provide list reply commands - I have used 
those myself. Current Thunderbird versions provide them without the need of 
extensions.

 In the last few years, the Gimp lists are the _only_ lists I receive 
 that result in this behavior.

Initially, I was quite annoyed by lists that had no reply-to set - but that was 
years ago. Nowadays, I like the consistent behavior of reply going to the 
author, and list reply going to the list. Elitist attitude, I guess, but it 
still feels good :)


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Re: [Gimp-user] 2.8... missing something

2012-05-13 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 13.05.2012 01:18, PictureZealot wrote:


I get the same thing on a Dell/Windows. This seems to be a common problem and I 
can't find a good answer anywhere. I've tried renaming an often offending dll 
in the System32 dir., uninstalled and reinstalled and can't figure this out.
Jeff


Use a tool like Process Monitor 
(http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645) to discover 
the DLL files that are loaded.



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Re: [Gimp-user] Question Please

2012-05-13 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 12.05.2012 20:52, asimmo...@beamspeed.net wrote:


I want to download GIMP AND make a Donation. First I would like to know
if GIMP has an image background burner?


What is an image background burner?



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Re: [Gimp-user] [bug]GIMP2.8 inserting Text shuts down the application

2012-05-19 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 19.05.2012 10:14, ishi soichi wrote:


as described in the title, after choosing 'Text' tool and clicking a
position I like on the new empty image, the entire application shuts
down right away.
This happens every time.

Does anyone have the same problem?  Isn't this a bug?


It is. In Pango, apparently:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=675837


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Re: [Gimp-user] Export/Save as image dimension 1,3Gbyte???

2012-05-19 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 19.05.2012 09:43, Kekko wrote:


I noted a bug in GIMP 2.8. In the window Save as the dimension of the image is 
fixed at 1,3Gbyte


A bug in Glib:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669818


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Re: [Gimp-user] Installing

2012-05-24 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Cuda robin.f...@charter.net

 I tried to install gimp on my laptop.  I had never updated it (the
 laptop), so Gimp said it needed XP with service pack 2.  I updated and 
 installed service pack 2 and it still won't install

This is a problem in the message text - it requires SP3 (and IIRC we've already 
seen a report where updating to SP3 was necessary to fix a problem), the 
message hadn't been updated.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Forschungsprojekt zur Verbesserung von GIMP

2012-05-24 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 23.05.2012 09:49, Tobias Jakobs wrote:


dies ist eine englischsprachige Mailingliste, Ihr solltet also auch
eure Mail und die Umfrage in Englisch machen. Dies wäre nicht nur
netter gegenüber den meisten Lesen der Mailingliste, es würde die
Reichweite auch erheblich erhöhen.


Ich bitte bis auf Weiteres um Vorsicht mit der ursprünglichen Mail - die 
Existenz von Carolin Hillmann lässt sich auf der TU-Berlin-Seite nicht 
bestätigen, und die Angabe einer Mobilfunknummer in einer Mailingliste 
ist auch eher ungewöhnlich - es gab auch keine uns bekannte vorherige 
Kontaktaufnahme mit GIMP-Entwicklern.



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I'd like to ask everyone to be cautious about the original mail until 
further notice - the existence of Carolin Hillmann can't be verified via 
the TU Berlin web site, and adding a mobile phone number to a public 
mailing list is uncommon - and there has been no known attempt to 
contact GIMP developers beforehand.



At least, I would have expected a @mms.tu-berlin.de -mail address.


Carolin, if this is a real project, please provide a bit more 
information about its background.




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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP corrupted photo now unable to open! PLEASE HELP!!!

2012-06-15 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Angela D angelizabet...@hotmail.com

 I spent a lot of time editing this photo and when I uploaded it into gimp
 to further edit and attempted to save, it would not. 

Can you elaborate on the it would not? Any error messages, or something else?

Can you reproduce this on (copies of) other images taken by the same camera?

 Then I tried to open the photo, knowing the work on gimp wouldn't have 
 saved, but it would not open. I tried opening in the web browser and 
 Paint but it's clearly corrupt.

It is only 12kB, and GraphicsMagick's identify tells me JPEG datastream 
contains no image - so it is most likely a valid image JPEG (or rather JFIF) 
image file, but without any image data.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom tablet devices grayed out

2012-06-15 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Sybren A. Stüvel syb...@stuvel.eu

 I'm using Gimp 2.8.0 on Windows 7 64-bit. My Wacom Bamboo Pen  Touch
 tablet is recognised by Gimp, but doesn't work properly. It acts like a
 normal mouse, rather than giving me pressure sensitivity. 

See http://forum.wacom.eu/viewtopic.php?f=3t=9787 - Wacom suggest that you use 
their configuration application to remove tablet settings. 
No idea if GIMP (or rather GTK+) should be able to pick up the tablet 
regardless of their existence, or if these settings prevent it from doing so.

According to report we got, this has worked for some people.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Back to gimp 2.6 (finding a debian repository or compiling ?)

2012-06-18 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 18.06.2012 03:26, minhsien0330 wrote:

Dear all:
I tried to compile gimp, but a error occured (I post it below).



failed to load ./cursor-bad.png: Couldn't recognize the image file
format for file './cursor-bad.png'


What is this file's file format? The utility file should tell.


make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/store/Linux/gimp-2.6.11'


Is there a reason why you try to build 2.6.11 and not the latest release 
of the old 2.6 branch, 2.6.12?



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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-user-list vs gimpforums?

2012-06-18 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 19.06.2012 02:38, Pablo Rocha Dinella wrote:


What the objectives of each one?


The mailing list is run by the GIMP developers, all of the forums out 
there are run by third parties.


So the mailing list(s) are the official communications channel; the 
objectives of all the forums out there would have to be explained by 
their maintainers.


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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] (no subject)

2012-06-21 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de

 On 06/21/2012 11:19 AM, Michael Schumacher wrote:
  Von: Ben Harrington-Ellsmoreadamantium...@hotmail.co.uk
  Hi I have been trying to work out how to get Gimp to only show
  fonts from the user/fonts file rather than the vast amount of
  system fonts can anyone point me at the code section I need to
  start mucking about with?

 I think you should read the original mail again. Hint: system fonts not 
 shown is not the problem, but the desired outcome.

Ah, thanks for the hint. I have accidentally read a not into the original 
mail, thus it became to get Gimp to *not* only show fonts from the user/fonts 
file



The configuration to check is the fonconfig settings then, for example the  the 
global, system-wide fonts.conf file. It may contain references to the global 
font directories, for example

dir/usr/share/fonts/dir
dir/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/dir

(taken from http://www.freedesktop.org/software/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html)

If you comment those out, then you can (and have to) add all font directories 
in GIMP's settings, for example.


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Re: [Gimp-user] how to preserve semi-transparency when converting to indexed

2012-07-02 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 02.07.2012 02:49, temp-user wrote:



I used to convert them to indexed so their size would be reduced. Since I 
installed a new version, the semi-transparency is cut off and I have just plain 
black on transparent background as if there were no antialiasing, very ugly.


I too used to use the ability to create indexed color pngs with semi-ransparent 
pixels.
this ability seems to have been either removed, lost or broken in the more 
recent release of gimp.

the png format can support it but it looks like gimp just does indexed color 
conversion  in a very GIF-like way.


GIMP has no support for this - there's an ancient bug report about 
allowing real alpha channels in indexed files, see 
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86627


The PNG plug-in should load the alpha channel from an indexed PNG file, 
but you'll have to et the mode to RGB in order to make use of it.



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Re: [Gimp-user] correct reference for the Gimp ?

2012-07-03 Thread Michael Schumacher

 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:15:00 -0400
 Von: Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net
 An: Lyerra lye...@gmail.com
 CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Betreff: Re: [Gimp-user] correct reference for the Gimp ?

 On Mon, 2012-07-02 at 19:54 -0400, Lyerra wrote:
  True, it would be long. But that list has to exist somewhere. Maybe I
 can
  refer to the list itself ? Is it somewhere in the license ? How can I
 refer
  to the GPL specific for GIMP ?
 
 Help-about lists them, and the source has an AUTHORS file that may or
 may not be included (it's in /usr/share/doc/gimp/AUTHORS here, on
 Linux).
 
 I do not know how complete it is, as probably thousands of people have
 submitted small patches and are not mentioned.
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] correct reference for the Gimp ?

2012-07-03 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net

 On Mon, 2012-07-02 at 19:54 -0400, Lyerra wrote:
  True, it would be long. But that list has to exist somewhere. Maybe I
  can refer to the list itself ? Is it somewhere in the license ? How can 
  I refer to the GPL specific for GIMP ?
 
 Help-about lists them, and the source has an AUTHORS file that may or
 may not be included (it's in /usr/share/doc/gimp/AUTHORS here, on
 Linux).

If the point of the thesis isn't to extract this data from the source 
repository itself, then I'd rely on e.g. https://www.ohloh.net/p/gimp

Especially https://www.ohloh.net/p/gimp/contributors


HTH,
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 usability discussion - Argument consolidation and referencing

2012-07-14 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 14.07.2012 19:24, Johannes wrote:

Am 14.07.2012 16:45, schrieb Chris Mohler:

You can:

A: Bitch

B: Adapt

C: Fork

I suggest option B or C - they're likely to be the most productive.


In fact, I am preparing option B.

Precondition for this is a good understanding of what is to be adapted.


Your workflow, to the way GIMP 2.8 works now.



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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't handle simple copy-and-paste?

2012-07-16 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Keith Purtell kpurt...@imirus.com
 
 But ... after creating a working xcf file in GIMP with the lower third
 then expanding the canvas size up to create space for the other two 
 images ...

 I open and copy the middle screen capture, then paste into my xcf. Then I
 have the middle as a new layer, and need to trim off part of the bottom of
 that layer. I draw a rectangle around the part of the new floating layer
 that needs to be removed. The moment I've done that, everything else on
 the layer that is not inside the selection rectangle disappears.

At that time, is it a new layer already or still a floating selection?


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[Gimp-user] New donation option - Added Flattr button to www.gimp.org

2012-07-16 Thread Michael Schumacher

Hi there,

we've added a new donation option to our website - a Flattr button.
It is located just below the donations button in the navigation menu of 
http://www.gimp.org


Flattr is a microdonation service that allows you to distribute an 
arbitrary amount of money - for example 2 euros - to all the things you 
flattr (i.e. click on their Flattr buttons) per month.



Six weeks ago, we received a request to accept donations via this 
service, and I thought that it was at least worth a try.


Today, I'm looking at a Flattr thing called 
https://flattr.com/thing/707850/GIMP-is-the-GNU-Image-Manipulation-Program, 
which has been flattred 4 times (not surprising, as it hasn't been 
public yet), with a balance of 18.59 euros, and I'm still struggling 
with the task to forward this sum to the GIMP Paypal account without any 
intermediate steps :)


Nevertheless, there's now a simple and easy donation option for anyone 
who wants to contribute to the GIMP funds - which are spent on 
contributors' travel and accommodation expenses or hardware like 
graphics tablets - without resorting to cheques, wire transfers or 
Paypal, which had been the only options on http://www.gimp.org/donating/ 
up to now.



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Re: [Gimp-user] Errors on sudo make install step of compiling gtk+ version 3.4.3

2012-07-18 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 18.07.2012 18:44, Nick Rahl wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to compile GIMP 2.8 and all of its friends in /opt/gimp-2.8/
on Ubuntu 10.04. I'm having difficulty with the sudo make install step
of compiling gtk+ version 3.4.3 (a GIMP dependency). The ./configure
and make steps (of GTK) seem to run OK, but sudo make install ends
with the following:


GTK+ 3 is not a dependency of GIMP 2.8.


HTH,
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Customization

2012-07-30 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 30.07.2012 10:45, shyam megha wrote:

Want to use GIMP for map publishing.Please help me with the links of
source code download.


0. Specify what the result should be


1. First is procedure for compiling.

2. Second is customization procedure for reducing menu structure.

3. Also tell me how can change the logo.



Without 0., there's no point in doing any of the other steps - first 
because you won't have a way to check if you've reached your goal, and 
second because anyone who is willing to help is curious to know what the 
help is going into.




Step 2 can be done without any recompiling, because

a) you can remove any plug-ins you don't want

  and

b) the menu layout is already customizable to some extent



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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] New donation option - Added Flattr button to www.gimp.org

2012-08-05 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 16.07.2012 23:15, Michael Schumacher wrote:

Hi there,

we've added a new donation option to our website - a Flattr button.
It is located just below the donations button in the navigation menu of
http://www.gimp.org



Six weeks ago, we received a request to accept donations via this
service, and I thought that it was at least worth a try.


It's time for an interim report - when I wrote about the addition of the 
button 19 days ago, we started out with 4 flattrs.


Since then, 96 people have clicked the button on http://www.gimp.org or 
https://flattr.com/thing/707850/ for a total of 115 times, some might 
even have added a subscription to it.


Thanks for the support, it is much appreciated - it helps us to get 
contributors to meetings like the Libre Graphics Meeting in Vienna 
earlier this year:


http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2012/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/group_photo_2012.jpg


For those interested in statistics:

- the first four clicks have provided a revenue of 18.60 Euros, mostly 
due to the donation that made me add the Flattr thing in the first place
- the next 86 clicks up to Juli 31 (total: 90) amount to a revenue of 
56.40 Euros



I've added a big widget to our donations page at 
http://www.gimp.org/donating/ - it shows a bit more information than the 
small button, for example the recent donors.



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[Gimp-user] Yay, mainstream! - and trojaned GIMP installers

2012-08-09 Thread Michael Schumacher


Hi,

recently, we're seeing more and more sign of GIMP becoming mainstream - 
the availability of several GIMP installers for the Microsoft Windows 
platforms loaded with trojans is certainly an indication for that.


The most common trojan seems to be InstallIQ. A piece of software that 
grants the providers of the actual installers plausible deniability 
because the installers itself is clean, and because the user has to 
agree to install additional utilities during setup.



Case 1:

Step 1: the victim is sent a scam mail pointing to a file at 
photo-host.net/ (which disguses as a image upload site).


Step 2: the files provided there are .gmp files (huh?)

Step 3: for viewing those files, there's a link to gimphost.com, where 
the infected installer is located



Case 2:

Another victim or culprit of a related scam seems to be the gimpshop.com 
site, which used to host a modifed version of GIMP which resembled the 
Photoshop UI. Either its original author has gone to the Dark Side, or 
that site has been taken over by a scammer - it is distributing 
InstallIQ-infected installers.



Advice:

If you see any GIMP installer sites which have a fine print with phrases 
like


is distributing a modified installer which is different from the 
original ones


or

InstallIQ

or

the installer is compliant with the original software manufacturer's 
policies


then do the following:


STAY AWAY FROM THEM!



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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-11 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 11.08.2012 22:51, maderios wrote:


Hi
No repetitive task (happily !). I create images. It's just art... Ex, I
need to edit and save many versions of the same image. I use different
format, png, xcf, jpeg. That's why Gimp has become so complicated for me
to use, compared to 2.6


But that would seem to be something the current systems is good for:

- export any intermediate state to a different file and format
- save in xcf to continue working on the image at a later time


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Re: [Gimp-user] unable to decrease the width of the Palette Editor window

2012-08-14 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Enda enda...@yahoo.com

 I am unable to decrease the width of the Palette Editor window. How do
 I do so?

You probably can't, if the current width is the minimum width - which is likely 
determined by the entries for palette name and number of columns below the 
editor.


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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP is GREAT!

2012-08-14 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com
 On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:16 PM, maderios mader...@gmail.com wrote:

Both of you,

may I suggest that you move your private conversation to private mail? In my 
opinion, there's no further insight that can be gained for the other readers, 
although the quite civilized discussion is certainly worthwhile by itself.


Thanks,
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Re: [Gimp-user] What does (#t) mean as a return value in script-fu?

2012-09-16 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 16.09.2012 20:58, Gary Aitken wrote:

subject says it all...


http://schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/r5rs-Z-H-9.html#%_sec_6.3.1

It returned true. Hard to tell what this means without context, but 
usually it indicates that something has been executed successfully.



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[Gimp-user] Translate the Windows installer packages of GIMP 2.8.x

2012-10-13 Thread Michael Schumacher


Hi,

some of you might have noticed that the Windows installers for GIMP 
2.8.x, available from http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net, offer a few more 
language options than previous releases -  Deutsch, English, Italiano 
and Slovenski.


This is due to the installer's language files, available at 
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/tree/build/windows/installer/lang?h=gimp-2-8 
(Polski has been added recently) - all of them contributed by users who 
want to make GIMP easier to install for their fellow countrymen.


But there's still much work to do - GIMP itself has been translated in 
many more languages.


So here is what you have to do in order to translate the installer to 
your language:



1. Get the original English language file
-

http://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/plain/build/windows/installer/lang/en.setup.isl?h=gimp-2-8

(if you know how to use Git, then you may want to get the gimp-2-8 
branch of git://git.gnome.org/gimp and work on the file in there)




2. Translate the file
-

Use a reasonably complete text editor (notepad probably won't cut it), 
and translate the messages to the desired language. Choose a suitable 
file name, have a look at


http://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/tree/build/windows/installer/lang?h=gimp-2-8

to see how the existing ones are named.

The file contains lots of key=message lines, you want to translate the 
message parts only and leave the keys intact - this is how the installer 
will find the correct messages for its dialog windows.


You may also give the following application a try (I've never used it 
myself, though:


http://www.freewebs.com/valarry/downloads.htm


In any case, pay attention to the codepages you use when saving those 
files - Unicode is not supported here. If in doubt, check the language 
files of the Innosetup installer software, they specifiy the correct 
codepages:


https://github.com/jrsoftware/issrc/tree/4af6f8f9fd9e6da2e5a8adf36c1a4fd324c64013/Files/Languages

But please *do not* copy anything from them into your own files - those 
settings only belong there.



3. Contribute your translation back
---

You got several possibilities to do this:

a) If you're using Git, then you can either commit and push the change 
directly, or provide a properly formatted patch.



b) You can attach the new file or the patch created to a new bug in 
GNOME Bugzilla:


https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GIMP

Choose the Installer component for this, not the Localization


c) You can attach either the file  or the patch to a message to the 
gimp-developer list.



We will check the file, and if all is well, your translation will be in 
the next Windows installer for GIMP 2.8.x - and your name will be in the 
list of GIMP contributors forever :)




P.S.

If you need help, please do not hesitate to ask - either on the list or 
in our IRC channel #gimp on irc.gimp.org


P.P.S.

Bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=683710 is a request for 
using gettext for these translations. If you want to help with that, 
read the comments of the bug and contact us.



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[Gimp-user] 3 months of Flattr, a summary

2012-10-17 Thread Michael Schumacher

Moin,

three months ago, on 2012-07-16, the Flattr button on 
http://www.gimp.org went public.


Its corresponding Flattr thing had already existed a little while longer 
(since the beginning of June) to cater to a specific donation request.


We didn't expect much of a revenue. Not because no one would flattr 
GIMP, but the concept of microdonation itself: people can donate to as 
many things per month as they like, and the minimum amount to be 
distributed per user and month is only 2 Euros. So a few cents per click 
is what one can expect, and that would certainly fit the definition and 
purpose of 'micro'.


We were wrong.

In July, 76 clicks turned into EUR 56,40. In August, 192 clicks into EUR 
149,08, and September brought 168 clicks and EUR 178,13.


These amounts are quite a lot more than expected.

To put them into relation to our planned expenses, I looked up plane 
ticket prices from Germany to Madrid - the location for Libre Graphics 
Meeting 2013, 
http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2012/2012/06/lgm-2013-dates-and-venue/ - 
and found them to be in the 170-200 Euros price range.
So, about one month of Flattr revenue will pay for some contributors' 
tickets to LGM 2013 :)


There are 111 Flattrs for October, so far.

Many thanks to all users who donated, your contributions help a lot!



P.S. Some thoughts about Flattr

Our experience with Flattr has been an overall success so far. It is 
easy to use from an admin point of view, the inclusion of the button 
into our website was mostly painless, and the performance is beyond our 
expectations.


The button is going to stay on http://www.gimp.org and http://docs.gimp.org


However, our experience should not be generalized:

- we've only got one single thing, whereas the typical use seems to be 
lots of things - e.g. blog posts, podcasts, images, ...


- GIMP is already known and established, so it is not that surprising 
that there are Flattr users in our user base (no idea if new users 
joined Flattr due to our participation)


- three months is rather short, we do not know how this will perform in 
future


- we're not trying to make a living from the revenue

- we don't flattr other things yet (something that really should happen, 
maybe a set amount per month distributed to a few selected outstanding 
examples of art created with GIMP? [if we can decide about that 
efficiently ;)])



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Re: [Gimp-user] ON VS OFF TOPIC

2012-10-28 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Donald Miller damill...@gmail.com

 Hello Gimp-user-list
 
 I received a good answer about setting resolution.
 I also received a commercial offering from ...

What you've received is called Spam (or more precisely, Unsolicited Commercial 
E-Mail, UCE). It was also not sent to you directly, but to the list address.

There's unfortunately no efficient way to restrict subscriptions to the list to 
certified non-spammers, so we'll have to deal with the occasional spamming 
attempt when they happen.


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Re: [Gimp-user] export to non xcf

2012-10-28 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Donald Miller damill...@gmail.com

 Can't directly save to jpg, so exported.
 Export to jpg made png. Same for psd.
 Shouldn't name track chosen format, so no manual override needed?

Maybe you had set the file-type chooser to this format?
The default By extension should do what you want, any other value is for 
special cases like you've discovered, like ambiguous file name extensions.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: GRID on/off

2012-10-28 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Donald Miller damill...@gmail.com

 Oops. I just discovered right click menu view show grid.
 Seems program development is a bit ahead of manual.

Note that there's the image menu (the menu of an image window) and the Image 
menu (a sub-menu therein), and the option you were looking for is in the View 
sub-menu of the image menu.


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Re: [Gimp-user] [Mac] 2.8.2

2012-10-29 Thread Michael Schumacher

 Von: Fpacius for...@gimpusers.com

 2 - How do you change the language? The release notes say: A question
 that often arises is how to change the UI language in GIMP, which has
 traditionally been a bit cumbersome. Not any longer, it is now possible
 to change the language in Preferences. But, I don't find that option 
 anywhere in the Preferences of 2.8.2.

That's because the language selector has a compile-time dependency on iso-codes 
(see https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-isocodes/ for a short description), 
and this was absent from the current OSX builds. 

IIRC it is supposed to become available in future packages.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Error.

2012-11-06 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 06.11.2012 22:26, Sleepingbeautiie wrote:


All right, so. I've had GIMP ever since the latest version came
out, and it hasn't been up to this very day that it's given me an
error when loading, ad it's never happened before. Ever. It's
some crud that tells me Runtime/C++ Error and that it needs to
terminate. So... what the heck do I do? Am I not going to be
able to use GIMP anymore? .__.


I kinda think the reason for the error has to do something with GTK2


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Re: [Gimp-user] Text Along Path GIMP 2.8.2

2012-11-07 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 07.11.2012 23:01, C G wrote:


Recently I upgraded from Ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 and this automatically
upgraded GIMP from 2.6 to 2.8.2.

A common tool I use in GIMP is Text Along Path for creating logos etc
for my business.

Now, as I am sure you are aware, this is now broken in the latest
release.


What is broken? Seems to work fine for me on Windows XP.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Photoshop Alternatives

2012-11-15 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 16.11.2012 01:15, Lomantik wrote:


The PSD loader/saver isn't perfect and probably never will be. We need
a new maintainer to fix all bugs and add more features. The code
doesn't write itself.



Can you tell me where can I fix this bugs. The place in the code. I'll create
the fix. For exemple, colors bug fix.


http://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/tree/plug-ins/file-psd


You can get the GIMP source code via Git, see 
https://live.gnome.org/Git/Developers for instructions.



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Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom pen causing automatic brush change

2012-12-02 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 03.12.2012 00:09, ncpenn wrote:


I am using gimp in Lubuntu 12.04 (using gimp 2.8). The Wacom attached is a
Splash.

When I select a brush/color besides the default, it automatically switches to
the default/black when the pen gets close enough to be detected by the tablet.


Did you select this brush/color with the tablet? Each device gets its 
own settings, that's a feature.



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[Gimp-user] download.dk - malicious or just sub-par?

2012-12-20 Thread Michael Schumacher
Hi,

we've been approached by download.dk about an award GIMP seems to have won on 
their site. They suggested to add this award to www.gimp.org with the usual 
link back to their site...

Upon inspecting their GIMP download page, I'm not really sure if this is an 
elaborate scam, or just a sub-par try of implementing a downloads site:

A strange driver update setup called installer.exe is more likely to be 
downloaded from their downloads page than the software the user intends to get. 
The link to this software is much more prominent.

I tried to send them a mail about this problem, but that message was returned 
with a no mail exchangers for that domain, and the message shows some 
mailmarketing.com forwarding addresses.


Has anyone got opinions about or experiences with this site?


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Re: [Gimp-user] technical request

2013-01-01 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 01.01.2013 21:29, Constance Lowery wrote:


downloaded GIMP. It installed but I can not open it. Keep getting
message that something is blocking Windows from working.  Another
message wrong file type. In plain English, what can I do? Please do not
be technical. GIMP is there, it just woul'nt come out.


Never heard about something like this. Can you provide the complete 
error message text?



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Re: [Gimp-user] Help! How do I uninstall Gimp on my Mac

2013-01-01 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 01.01.2013 20:09, Susan Birnbaum wrote:


Ever since I installed it:
My Corel Painter saves .jpgs as .jpeg


Can applications on that platform really do this to each other?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Missing Group Layers

2013-01-17 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 18.01.2013 00:06, Montrosity wrote:

I saved an image with over 10 layers, and most of those layers were in a group
folder.  When I reopened the image, the layers that were in the folder were
missing.  Those layers had hours of work put into them, and I cant afford to
redo it.  Is there any way to get those layers back?


I've never seen a report like this. Are you able to reproduce this? Try 
a new small image, one that could potentially be attached to a bug report.


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Re: [Gimp-user] layers, new problem with old methods

2013-01-20 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Donald Miller damill...@gmail.com

 I resized two images, made a new page canvas, copied and pasted both,
 opened grid. I can only move one image, can't toggle to other. Layer
 stack commands are all grayed out, except reverse layer order which
 does nothing. Pg-up/dn keys do nothing. Align does nothing.

If you haven't created new layers from the floating selections you got after 
pasting, then you now have a still floating selection around. But this has 
always been that way, so it is not a new problem with an old method...

If this doesn't help and you think somethings else must be the cause, then 
describe what you're seeing in the layers dialog.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Doing a select without the mouse?

2013-01-23 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Gary Aitken g...@dreamchaser.org

 On 01/23/13 02:14, Ofnuts wrote:
 
  What operation? Until you click/drag on the image, there is no selection
  started, and the numbers you enter in the Tools options are meaningless.
  To give them a purpose you have to click first, which means using the
 mouse.
 
 If the values are meaningless, then why do they appear in the Tool
 Options for the rectangle select?

I think the way to give them meaning is described in the messages parts quoted 
here.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Doing a select without the mouse?

2013-01-23 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Gary Aitken g...@dreamchaser.org

 Is it possible to do a rectangle select without the mouse?

As a matter of fact, yes.


Preconditions:

- have the Script-Fu console open
- know the id of the image you want to create a selection for
- read the documentation of the gimp-rect-select procedure in the procedure 
browser


Then, in the Script-Fu console:

(gimp-rect-select image x y width height operation feather feather-radius)


For example, assuming you've got an image with the id 1:

(gimp-rect-select 1 23 23 42 42 2 1 5)



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Re: [Gimp-user] a new GIMP book

2013-01-24 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Olivier oleca...@gmail.com

 See http://nostar.ch/BoG_promo

Are you trying to get into any known block list and spam filter?

Posts and mails with only a single link for content tend to achieve this 
nowadays.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Rotating An Image Using GIMP 2.8.0. WITHOUT Losing Any Of The Image

2013-01-25 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: scl scl.gp...@gmail.com

 You are right, the online help is a bit skimped in that point. The most 
 comprehensive is written in chapter 4.5 [1].
 I'd like to mention some thoughts:
 - If rotating the image is embedded into a bigger workflow, steps 1 and 
 10 are not necessary for rotating.
 - 'Image/Fit Canvas to Layers' can also grow the canvas to fit the 
 layers. Thus steps 3 and 4 are optional.
 
 However, thank you for your hard work and sharing your knowledge with 
 the community!

But what is lost if I rotate and then adjust the canvas to the layers without 
doing any of the additional steps?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Rotating An Image Using GIMP 2.8.0. WITHOUT Losing Any Of The Image

2013-01-25 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu

  But what is lost if I rotate and then adjust the canvas to the layers 
  without doing any of the additional steps?
 
 This is evidently for lossy image formats like jpg where the cosine 
 transform is over the rows and when you rotate the image details can be
 lost somewhere. For lossless image formats nothing will be lost off 
 course.

- 2x2 pixel image, solid black
- rotate by 45°
- enlarge canvas

Yes, the result for this example is probably not correct, but even if it were, 
you couldn't call it 'no loss of details'. And the format you're exporting to 
won't matter.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Rotating An Image Using GIMP 2.8.0. WITHOUT Losing Any Of The Image

2013-01-25 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 25.01.2013 22:55, dsvendse wrote:


The only online Help that I was able to find was from folks who really didn't
know about GIMP's many features and tools.


Never trust anyone if they don't answer your questions by pointing to 
the user manual.



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Re: [Gimp-user] Compile GIMPv2.9.1 for Debian (Wheezy/Sid)

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 27.01.2013 03:02, studiojunkyard wrote:

I recently compiled v2.9.1 GIMP on Debian (Wheezy/Sid), this is for Debian
itself, not modified Debian Distro's (such as Ubuntu), though the instructions
may work, I'm not responsible for breaking your system:


apt-get build-dep gimp

Will pull in all required libraries to build your distros gimp packages. 
Removing babl and gegl is optional, but probably necessary in your case 
because:



[babl]
./autogen.sh
make
make install


This will install to /usr/local, and can lead to conflicts with the 
libraries and gimp installed by your package management. You should pass 
a --prefix parameter to ./autogen.sh


Have a look at http://www.gimp.org/source/howtos/gimp-git-build.html for 
a different approach.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Text to path not working, text cut off

2013-01-29 Thread Michael Schumacher
On 29.01.2013 22:07, AllForGimpbut wrote:
 I've tried this a number of times and it was successful. This time nothing I 
 try
 is successful.
 
 Problem: want some text along a circular path and the result of text to path
 is ALWAYS text is truncated at the 19th character.
 
 GIMP 2.8.2 on Ubuntu 12.11

This is most likely
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=676413


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Re: [Gimp-user] 2.8.4 - Display bug with maximized signe window

2013-02-12 Thread Michael Schumacher
On 12.02.2013 23:45, Tar wrote:
 Hello,
 
 This release has corrected of the maximized state that was not remember 
 between
 sessions. Great...but now there is another bug : when opened maximized, the
 bottom part of the window is not displayed. (see my screenshot). To correct
 this, we need to re-minimize and re-maximize the window.
 
 Any idea to fix this?

What happens without Unity?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Creating Transparent Text

2013-02-16 Thread Michael Schumacher
On 16.02.2013 17:16, Denise Hamilton wrote:

 I have read the GIMP documentation and experimented with adding text to
 the photo. I cannot find how to make the text visible but not solid.

Lower the opacity of the text layer in the layers dock.

http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-dialogs-structure.html#gimp-layer-dialog


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Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: maderios mader...@gmail.com

 3) These developers have created gimp according to their own practice.

Have a look at http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/GIMP_UI_Redesign

While I wouldn't say that the team are no developers, they probably aren't by 
your definition.

Your problem is that this team managed to convince the developers (by your 
definition) to implement their plans. And apparently those are spreading to 
other software.

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Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: maderios mader...@gmail.com

 On 02/18/2013 04:45 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:
  Von: maderios mader...@gmail.com
 
  3) These developers have created gimp according to their own practice.
 
  Have a look at http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/GIMP_UI_Redesign
 
  While I wouldn't say that the team are no developers, they probably
 aren't by your definition.
 
  Your problem is that this team managed to convince the developers (by
 your definition) to implement their plans. And apparently those are spreading
 to other software.
 

 These guys are architects, they don't need Gimp...

They are interaction architects and usability consultants. Their expertise is 
to decide how software (and other things) is supposed to look, feel and work.

I, for one, agree with their approach.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Want off the list

2013-03-03 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 03.03.2013 21:37, Ari Yoder wrote:


I would like off this list.  How do I do that?


Follow that link from the message footer, and use the unsubscribe button 
at the bottom of the page:



https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list



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Re: [Gimp-user] unsupported file format

2013-03-07 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 05.03.2013 23:38, rht wrote:

By doing a simple copy changing the extension from tiff to tif [cp
input.tiff output.tif] the file now opens.

Surely this is not correct *nix behaviour?


What's the output of the file command for this file?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp App for Android and IOS!

2013-03-07 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 06.03.2013 23:09, Ryan LaRose wrote:


You guys should develop a Gimp App for Android phone/tablet users as
well as Iphone/Ipad users. Your app would destroy every single other app
out there. I can't tell you enough how many of my friends said they wish
gimp had an app. Thanks.


Imagine how awkward it would be to use the current GIMP with a touch 
interface...


If you and your friends are planning to create an image manipulation 
application on tablets, then a copy of GIMP in its present form won't do 
the trick - and we haven't got the developer resources to do something 
like this.



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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp App for Android and IOS!

2013-03-07 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 07.03.2013 19:19, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:


2013/3/7 Sam Gleskesam.mxra...@gmail.com:



On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Ryan LaRose rylk...@gmail.com
wrote:


You guys should develop a Gimp App for Android phone/tablet
users as well as Iphone/Ipad users. Your app would destroy every
single other app out there. I can't tell you enough how many of
my friends said they wish gimp had an app. Thanks.




Apple's App Store license is incompatible with the GNU GPL (all

 versions).


Apple? The OP said Android, so it should be Google, right?


I've tried to fix the quoting.
Note the Iphone/Ipad in the original message.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Menus can't be found (was: HELP)

2013-03-11 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 10.03.2013 01:02, Mateusz Skutnik wrote:


I can't find any of the menus. There doesn't seem to be an option which
enables them either, unless it's hidden. How do I enable the menus?


Quick guess:
Try the View menu from the context menu - usually it can be accessed by 
the right mouse button. There's a 'show menubar' option.


If this isn't the problem, please elaborate.


P.S. please add a bit more information to the subject of a message


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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp displays rubbish when panning picture.

2013-03-29 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 29.03.2013 12:00, Partha Bagchi wrote:


Use the portable version from www.partha.com http://www.partha.com and
if you have issues, let me know here, my website or you can talk about
it at gimpchat.com http://gimpchat.com


You've found the cause for that problem?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Install Issues

2013-04-01 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 01.04.2013 02:38, Bunky67 wrote:


I got the Installers both from Sourceforge.net



file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Brian/My%20Downloads/g-imp-2-8-4-setup.exe


If you got the file from there, then it should be called

gimp-2.8.4-setup.exe

If your download is really named like the one you posted, you either got 
something else or you have renamed the file.



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[Gimp-user] 9 months of Flattr

2013-04-02 Thread Michael Schumacher

Hi there,

it's been six months since my 3-months report about our Flattr button:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2012-October/msg00072.html

In the time frame of October to March, the clicks average at around 200, 
the revenue at 170 Euros per month


At 0,85 Euros per click, this is doing quite well for a micro-donation 
system.


The money will be used for our Libre Graphics Meeting expenses - we are 
paying for the travel and an apartment at Madrid for the GIMP team 
members, and we're helping the LGM organizers with some additional funds 
for reimbursing attendees of other teams:

http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2013/


Our Flattr button can be found on every page at http://ww.gimp.org
Other donation options - PayPal, wire transfer and cheque - can be found 
at http://www.gimp.org/donating/


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Re: [Gimp-user] Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science

2013-04-02 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 03.04.2013 01:03, newtonha...@hushmail.com wrote:


We are researchers from different parts of the world


Winners don't spam.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Option tool problem

2013-04-05 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 05.04.2013 20:19, Ron Percy wrote:

I am trying to fix a problem for a friend in that she can no longer change the 
background in a project. This particular option has vanished from her toolbar.


? What option would that be?


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Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines

2013-04-06 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 06.04.2013 05:29, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Richard Gitschlag strata_ran...@hotmail.com [04-05-13 21:46]:

From: dan...@yacg.com
To: uni.kl...@t-online.de
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 16:12:35 -0400
CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines

The email was, unfortunately, too large for the list due to the numerous
attached images.


*headdesk*  Apparently, GIMP .gdyn files are more bloated than MS Word 
documents


perhaps you should try text instead of html/bloated/drivel


NB: I'm considering to change the list configuration to drop the html 
parts of messages.



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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

2013-04-13 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 13.04.2013 00:00, Kasim Ahmic wrote:

That's a pretty cool idea.  Considering the space allotted for it I
think only 1 article would be enough.  If I see that one article has
changed I would go to the news feed to read more news :).


Well we'll see when we actually implement it. I'll most likely have to
use PHP for that which I have next to no knowledge about so it'll have
to wait until we can get someone to help me out there.


If possible, I'd like to see a system that only uses whatever language 
to generate the site if there is an actual change. Anything important 
that is served to the user should be static, i.e. the site should 
continue working except for changes when we just plainly remove 
PHP/Python/Perl/Ruby/Go from the server or have to disable any dynamic 
features temporarily (0-day, anyone? ;) temporarily.


The current system is template files that are checked into Git and are 
run through make and python to create the static html files which get 
served.


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[Gimp-user] Added Bitcoin donation option

2013-04-13 Thread Michael Schumacher

Hi there,

we have added a Bitcoin address as a donation option to our donations 
page at http://www.gimp.org/donating/


The address is: 1NVMCeoBfTAJQ1qwX2Dx1C8zkcRCQWwHBq

Was is Bitcoin? Wikipedia to the rescue:

Bitcoin (BTC) is an online digital currency that is based on an 
open-source, peer-to-peer encryption protocol first described in 2009 by 
a pseudonymous developer (or developers) Satoshi Nakamoto. Bitcoin is 
not managed by any government or central authority. Instead, it relies 
on an Internet-based network. [...]


Bitcoins can be transferred through a computer or smartphone locally or 
internationally without an intermediate financial institution. Each 
bitcoin is subdivided into 100 million smaller units called satoshis, 
defined by eight decimal places.


Check out the Wikipedia article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin 
for more information.



There has been demand for a Bitcoin donation option for some time 
already. We had delayed that option because we couldn't really use 
Bitcoins per se - I still do not know about any place where plane 
tickets are for sale, and these are our biggest expenses overall.


But there are finally some reliable exchanges popping up, which are 
located in countries where the responsible treasuries regulate them like 
any other exchange (i.e. not the Cayman Isles :)


More recently I chose to delay adding the address due to the current 
Bitcoin hype, with prices well over USD 200 - I didn't want GIMP to 
appear like an opportunist who's just after quick money. Prices are now 
returning to sane levels, and stability in regard to exchange rates 
seems to return as well.



We use the donated money to reimburse GIMP team members for travel and 
accommodation to conferences, most prominently the Libre Graphics Meetings.


For Libre Graphics Meeting 2013 in Madrid, España (an awesome event, 
which all of us who went there are glad to have been able to attend), we 
also contributed to the global refund pool and sponsored drinks for the 
conference party at Mi madre era una Groupie in Calle Santa Polonia.



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Re: [Gimp-user] Is this a bug?

2013-04-21 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 21.04.2013 03:41, Christopher Draper wrote:


I'm trying to recolor an image in GIMP but it keeps giving different
colors (ex. when I select pink it paints on yellow, when I select green
it turns out brown. Why is this happening how do I fix it?


Are you working on an image that is in indexed color mode, e.g. because 
it has been imported from a GIF or PNG file which happened to be in that 
mode?



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Re: [Gimp-user] making a plug-in (bridge 2 programs)

2013-04-30 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 30.04.2013 04:07, Vata-Raven wrote:

Why are you even going to come into a topic, about trying to make a
plug-in...and just come along and tell someone, no, no, CS2 really isn't free

It's not really contributing at all


If someone is publishing incorrect information on a popular list, 
whether intentional or not, correcting that is an obligation, not an option.



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Re: [Gimp-user] PDF

2013-05-12 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 12.05.2013 17:22, Tom Williams wrote:

On 05/12/2013 07:48 AM, Janet Little wrote:

Recently installed Gimp. Could someone step me through how to change the
settings so Gimp no longer opens my pdf files? I see the issue mentioned on
the web but the solutions are for a person more computer literate than me.
They also seemed to mostly relate to Ubuntu and wanting Evince to open pdf.
I have Windows 7 with Chrome  Firefox browsers, and adobe reader.  Tried
looking here - sorry if I missed it.



Could you right-click on a PDF file and use the Open With menu to
choose Adobe Reader (or some other PDF reader) as the application to
use?  When doing that, make sure the use as default application (or
similarly phrased) check box is checked.


I found
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/change-file-associations-windows

when searching for windows 7 file associations. At a glance, it seems 
to be pretty straightforward.


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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?

2013-05-12 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 12.05.2013 19:36, Henry W. Peters wrote:


Thanks much for any pointers.


Please don't hijack threads - your mail will appear two levels deep in 
the thread about changing the PDF file associations for some users.


If you want to start a new topic, please compose a new message to the 
gimp-user-list@gnome.org list mail address (and make sure that you're 
subscribed).



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Re: [Gimp-user] Press Inquiry

2013-05-15 Thread Michael Schumacher
[This is my reply to a press inquire to g...@gnome.org. Unfortunately, 
the email address provided by the journalist does not work, I get a 
user unknown SMTP error when replying (and I've retried several times).


So instead of providing some material to an article in one of the 
(online) publications of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reforma, this 
might only make it to our mailing lists, but at least it is published 
somewhere.]



On 13.05.2013 23:52, Cora Bravo Laborie wrote:


This is Cora Bravo, reporter at the mexican newspaper Reforma. I would
like to ask you for an interview via e-mail to talk about GIMP and the
Adobe's announce of their new payment scheme. My objective is to explain
that there are a lot of other alternatives for profesional and casual
designers.


Hi Cora,

this is Michael Schumacher, long-time contributor to GIMP and organizer 
of some sorts of things around it, e.g. getting the GIMP team to the 
Libre Graphics conference or making GIMP participate in Google Summer of 
Code.



The article is going to be published in the technology supplement of the
newspaper the next saturday, on may 18th. So it would be great if you
could answer before wednesday. I will really apreciate it.

I want to take the opportunity for sending my questions:

·Is GIMP complete option for people who don't want to pay for Photoshop?


GIMP isn't supposed to be a copy of Adobe Photoshop. So if anyone 
approaches along I want Photoshop, but I don't want to pay for it and 
picks GIMP, they're most likely going to be disappointed.



Why?


They will only notice the differences and won't see the features GIMP 
has to offer.



·For what kind of user is GIMP?


It is for users who can identify with the goals and characteristics set 
forth in our vision briefing, see 
http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Vision_briefing


They will have to realize that GIMP is a unique application, not 
striving to copy other software, but implementing its own goals and 
trying to achieve this in the best possible way.


They are welcome to use it and participate in the development, but will 
discover that a solely demanding attitude won't get them very far.



·What do I will find in GIMP?


Not sure if I understand this question - if you're searching for a 
description of GIMP's feature, then 
http://www.gimp.org/about/introduction.html could be the place to start. 
But the list there isn't exhaustive.



·What do you think about the new payment schemes adopted by companies
like Adobe and Microsoft?


I think that it won't have any noticeable impact on their revenue, but 
on the composition of the user base of their software. Instead of the 
users who pay for a couple of version of their software and then use it 
indefinitely, and the (few?) users who pirate it, they will have 
recurring payments from subscribers and suffer less piracy.



·Do you think that free options like GIMP will grow in the market?


Maybe. I expect that some users might move from Adobe Photoshop to GIMP, 
but I am not sure if we will notice the increase.


But if we do, I hope it won't be as endless streams of mails requesting 
to make GIMP more like Photoshop.



·What is the future for licensing schemes and free software?


I'm only able to describe my views about the license used for GIMP. 
There are more Free Software licenses around, but I do not know their 
specifics well enough to speculate about them.


I expect that the GNU General Public License (GNU GPL), the license used 
to distribute GIMP, will be around for years or decades. It will evolve 
to accommodate to development, for example new distribution methods. 
This evolution must take the spirit of previous versions into account, 
because deviations which would violate its core principles would make


The GNU GPL covers the distributions to and the freedoms of the users, 
and prevents restrictions of usage.


Setting up subscription-based models would thus be tricky at best, even 
the GPL FAQ state that a subscription fee to control the use of Free 
software is not allowed: 
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#SubscriptionFee


The GNU GPL makes it possible, however, to run software on your own 
servers and provide access to it, without distributing the software itself.


Right now, there are few SaaS models based on GIMP,
http://www.flamingtext.com/Effects-Logos is the only one I know of.
If this will become a more prominent use case for GIMP, we might want to 
make sure that any user of the service has got the same rights and 
freedoms as if they downloaded the current GIMP - for example, access to 
the source code of the GIMP version running as an image processing server.



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[Gimp-user] One month of Bitcoin donations for GIMP, a review

2013-05-15 Thread Michael Schumacher

Hi,

one moth ago, at the end of Libre Graphics Meetings 2003, we announced 
our Bitcoin address as a new donation possibility:


http://www.gimp.org/donating/#bitcoin


Since then, a few things have changed:

- we've reordered our donations page, moved the more popular option to 
the top and added a small navigation menu
- Jakub Steiner (jimmac) has designed a Bitcoin donation button for the 
main side bar

- and we got donations


As I wrote in the first follow-up to the announcement, it is quite easy 
to tell how much we got so far - go to either of


  http://blockchain.info/address/1NVMCeoBfTAJQ1qwX2Dx1C8zkcRCQWwHBq
  https://blockexplorer.com/address/1NVMCeoBfTAJQ1qwX2Dx1C8zkcRCQWwHBq

and you'll discover that we got exactly 6.8347141 BTC.


Both sites will also tell you that none of this has been spent yet. In 
our case, this would mean that the money would be transferred to the 
GNOME bank account (the one of the wire transfer donation option).


Now, why is that? Are the GIMP developers speculating that the exchange 
rates will get much better again, and try to exchange to e.g. US dollars 
at the best possible rate?


That's tempting, I guess - the maximum total value I remember was around 
USD 940 instead of the current USD 780. The actual reason is a bit more 
mundane, and it is one part inconvenience and one part hope for innovation:


1. Inconvenience

I could certainly got about the transfer as follows:

Sell the coins at an exchange, get the revenue transferred to my 
account, then wire the money to the GNOME account. Adds delays, manual 
steps, fees and is a last millennium method to transfer funds collected 
via an innovative currency transfer system. Bah



2. Hope for Innovation

GNOME, who are handling the funds for GIMP, are currently accepting 
donations via PayPal, wire transfer and cheque only. Transferring the 
monthly amount from Flattr to that PayPal account is easy, but I'm wary 
to try the same with Bitcoin - read too many stories about PayPal 
suspensions when the accounts are involved with BTC trading.


So, what I did was to ask GNOME if they'd consider to use one of the 
US-based Bitcoin payment handlers, namely https://coinbase.com/merchants 
or https://bitpay.com/bitcoin-for-charities


If they'd set up an account there, donating BTC would be just like any 
of the other options for all parties involved, conversion to fiat money* 
included. Unfortunately, this is still necessary, as most of the 
expenses - travel, accommodation for e.g. LGM attendees - can't be done 
in Bitcoin yet.


Karen Sandler, executive director of the GNOME Foundation, has told me 
that they are looking into it.




P.S. this announcement coincidences with an incident that could be the 
first serious move of a government agency against Bitcoin - the 
Department of Homeland Security has issued a court order, preventing 
Dwolla to transfer funds to and from the company behind one of the 
larger BTC exchanged, MtGox. I'm curious to see how this is going to 
evolve...

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/08141123095/homeland-securitys-ice-group-cuts-off-dwolla-bitcoin-transfers.shtml

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Re: [Gimp-user] Patterns in GIMP

2013-05-22 Thread Michael Schumacher



Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Uniklaps de wrote:


Or is it possible (and if how) to make an own pattern
via scanner or by GIMP via paths and lines?


Yes. Please use 'Edit / Paste as / New pattern' command to save any
image in the clipboard as a pattern.


Or add an image file to a patterns directory, many image file formats 
work for that.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Fonts, Windows 8 and GIMP 2.8.4

2013-05-24 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 24.05.2013 18:40, B Beitertje wrote:

Fonts not displaying/working in Gimp 2.8

I am using Gimp 2.8.4.
Win XP Pro, SP3
Had the same problem.
Fixed it by doing this, try it, it might work in your situation too:

Search for the Gimp-file fonts.conf (without the quotes)
Make backup copy of this original fonts.conf file.
Paste this copy of original fonts.conf file, rename this copy if necessary.
Edit the fonts.conf file, using a text editor.
Go to the line where it says :

!-- Font directory list --
dirWINDOWSFONTDIR/dir
Edit line dir.WINDOWSFONTDIR/DIR
to read :
!--dirWINDOWSFONTDIR/dir


So this doesn't work because of the . in there (but why would it work on 
all other windows versions then?)?



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Re: [Gimp-user] gimpx? possible malicious software using Gimp name

2013-05-26 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 25.05.2013 19:22, Michael Strout wrote:

Hi all,
  I just received a text message on google voice with something which
was made to look like a failed image embed that led to this page
http://imgsend.com/?photo=792MBQ which talked about requiring a gimp photo
viewer for a .JPG.GMP file.  Links lead to a gimpx.org domain which thing
looks like a malicious site crafted to fool windows users into installing
malware to me.


Yes, it is. See
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2012-August/msg00074.html 
for an analysis, with slightly different urls.



If I'm incorrect and this is somehow a valid tool please let me know to set
my mind at ease.


This isn't a valid tool. Most likely a trojan.


If not, does anyone know if there's something that can be done about it?


Educating users would be the best approach. Any suggestions how to 
phrase a warning for www.gimp.org/downloads?



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Re: [Gimp-user] gimpx? possible malicious software using Gimp name

2013-05-26 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 26.05.2013 21:07, Steve Kinney wrote:


At present, the link to the Windows port on the Downloads page at
gimp.org is hidden behind a show other downloads link buried in
the middle of the page.


You're not using a Windows platform, are you?


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Re: [Gimp-user] ToolBox tools gone, HELP!

2013-05-31 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 31.05.2013 17:41, TheEquineArtist wrote:

Oh my Gosh Thanks! Cant believe it was that easy. So
awesome


Ok well I take that back! Ugh, now my tools are back but I cant use them. They
are in the tool box but they are not active.


Can you clarify whether you are referring to the tool icons themselves 
or the tool options?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Using Ctrl + Scrollwheel to Zoom

2013-06-02 Thread Michael Schumacher

Am 02.06.2013 22:03, schrieb richardchiu:

I used to be able to use the shortcut of ctrl + scrollwheel to zoom
around on the image I'm working on. Now I can't get this shortcut to
work for me anymore. I tried reinstalling GIMP 2.8.4 with no luck.

Could somebody please help me troubleshoot this?


As of now, I'm just using the scroll wheel solely to zoom. I guess I'll have to
get used to it without the ctrl key. I guess I could live with that. Thanks
everyone for looking into this. But if anyone has any suggestions, I'll be sure
to listen! ;)


Does anything on your system capture ctrl+wheel and use it for something 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Converting jpegs to pngs

2013-06-06 Thread Michael Schumacher
127markaz for...@gimpusers.com wrote:

What setting has changed that I can no longer get a transparent
background after the .png conversion? Gimp V. 2.6.8.

Make sure that the image has an alpha channel and that there are transparent 
parts before exporting. 

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Re: [Gimp-user] Converting jpegs to pngs

2013-06-07 Thread Michael Schumacher


127markaz for...@gimpusers.com wrote:

In all these years I suppose I've been lucky with the many .jpg pics
I've rendered because I've never encountered this before.

That would be strange, because the JPEG file format has no transparency.

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Re: [Gimp-user] FW: Creating image from webpage

2013-06-10 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 10.06.2013 22:49, Bettina wrote:


I tried to load an image of a webpage in GIMP by using File  Create 
from Webpage. But it doesn't work.

And it seems I am not alone:
http://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=4t=5920

(same here: no matter which page I try to load I get just a grey lng
empty picture)


Known, see
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690277


If and when this will be fixed depends largely on whether and when 
someone finds the root cause for the problem.



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Re: [Gimp-user] A Sad case of regression

2013-06-15 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 15.06.2013 22:21, Tom Williams wrote:

On 06/15/2013 01:19 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:



There's something crazy going on with your computer and your copy of
GIMP. What happens for just about everybody else is:

1. File  Export
2. Specify file name
3. Click 'Export'
4. Contonue working on the picture.



I'm thinking Helen is referring to the JPEG preview window that opens,
during the JPEG export process.After the JPEG export is done, the
preview window closes since the file's been saved.


That behavior isn't different to previous versions, though...


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Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ?

2013-06-16 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 15.06.2013 17:03, Richard Gitschlag wrote:

  Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:30:43 +0200
  From: schum...@gmx.de
  To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
  Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ?
 
  . . . That's not perfect yet - for example, you lose the undo history
. . .

How often is Undo history ACTUALLY needed by the user, beyond fixing a
ten-seconds-ago mistake?


You think about it as a way to correct mistakes.

Think about it as a way to change the history of anything done to the image.


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Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ?

2013-06-16 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 16.06.2013 15:03, Bob Long wrote:


So, again, if I understand you, the new export process has actually
revealed an error in your previous workflow.


Revealing that misconception is one of the change's goals. See
http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Save_%2B_export_specification

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

2013-06-26 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Joseph A. Nagy, Jr jnagyjr1...@gmail.com

  To my aged and somewhat failing recoginition, gimp has *always*
  loaded/queried it's plugins and extensions when starting, irrespective of
  platform.  If 2.8.4 did not, it probably was a failing/bug.  I am still on
  2.8.2 and it also does the check/load at start.
 
 
 I have the same experience as well, and have always had the same 
 experience. GIMP queries for plugins at startup, I just upgraded to 
 2.8.6 but have yet to run it, though I'm expecting that normal behavior 
 yet again.

Yes, it does that. But in order to avoid querying plug-ins that haven't 
changed, their modification time is compared to the cached values. The whole 
query is hardly noticeable on a modern system except on the first launch (and 
launches after an upgrade).


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

2013-06-26 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 26.06.2013 22:43, Kevin Payne wrote:


Perhaps you could leave it buggy and maybe these python script writers with 
problems won't see their changes ignored:

http://gimpforums.com/thread-problems-using-python-scripts
http://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=9t=6486


Or, as an alternative, someone could report that problem as a proper 
bug. With a minimal sample script for the reviewers to try attached to it.



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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

2013-06-27 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Joseph A. Nagy, Jr jnagyjr1...@gmail.com

 On 06/26/13 15:17, scl wrote:
  Am 26.06.13 22:11, schrieb Jernej Simončič:
 
  This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into it.
 
  You're right. The 64 bit build doesn't have that delay on startup.

 Not true.

 amd64 FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p4 here, just updated to GIMP 2.8.6 and still
 have the delay over multiple sessions.

Then you may be seeing the same or a similar bug on your platform.
You didn't really specify how long that delay is, though.

 I don't really see it as buggy.

It doesn't matter whether you see something as a bug for it to be one.

 If there is something missing it will only be known by rescanning the
 folders time-and-again.

If it is missing, then it will be added (remember my comment about the caching 
based on the file modification time?). If a plug-in was there previously and 
has been changed, its query() procedure will be run again. See 
http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/sect-essentials.html for a more detailed 
description of a plug-in's key procedures.

So there's no need for GIMP to re-query plug-ins all the time. As I wrote 
before, an GIMP launch with unchanged plug-ins should rush through that stage.


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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP kickstarter?

2013-07-07 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 07.07.2013 18:08, Dominik Tabisz wrote:


Fundraising for one big program/enviroment might be difficult - how do
we agree which funcionality should be improved/fixed first?


A first step would be to have this discussion on the gimp-developer 
mailing list, where the current GIMP developers are available.



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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP kickstarter?

2013-07-11 Thread Michael Schumacher


FallenLegend for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
Thank you for your support guys. I just sent and email to the
developers... wish
me luck :)!

You should subscribe to the gimp-developer list - a discussion where every 
other message has to be approved manually is not very efficient.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Clone tool not working

2013-07-13 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 13.07.2013 22:27, Sanjib Sikder wrote:

Hi,

I am using GIMP 2.8.2 on Ubuntu 12.10.
The clone tool seems broken. It can not recognize the CTRL+left click. I
have tried with setting different key, which also does not work.

It always says Ctrl-click to set a new clone source


Does your desktop environment use ctrl+click for something else?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Image Area doesn't respond to mouse.

2013-07-13 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 13.07.2013 22:17, ArRaf wrote:


I am new at GIMP and installed the 2.8 today.
After I run it and create new, I can click on the tools, layer windows, and the
pattern and gradients normally(Like how I saw in online videos),
but I can't click on the image/canvas area in the main window.


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[Gimp-user] The number of posts from unsubscribed users is rising...

2013-07-28 Thread Michael Schumacher
Hi there,

I'm seeing a growing number of posts from unsubscribed users in the
moderation queues of the mailing lists.

Usually, only the occasional spam ends up there, and is quickly deleted.
In order to avoid getting caught in this, please subscribe to the lists
if you plan to post there as well.

And if you are subscribed, please make sure that you are using the
subscribed mail identity to post.


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Re: [Gimp-user] The number of posts from unsubscribed users is rising...

2013-07-29 Thread Michael Schumacher
On 29.07.2013 04:32, Stephen Allen wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 08:16:14PM +0200, Michael Schumacher wrote:

 And if you are subscribed, please make sure that you are using the
 subscribed mail identity to post.

 Thought I had, didn't know you had a read only option for email
 subscribers, or is it because I'm from the GMail domain?

Your Gmail address isn't subscribed. I had to approve this message
manually as well.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Q: Batch script adding alpha mask problem

2013-08-05 Thread Michael Schumacher
On 05.08.2013 21:16, spiderman wrote:

[the same(?) script for the third time]

Are there supposed to be any differences between those scripts?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

2013-08-16 Thread Michael Schumacher
On 16.08.2013 19:57, physoc wrote:
 physoc (for...@gimpusers.com) wrote:
 Uh, where do you see that? Certainly not on www.gimp.org, or?

 Sounds like some dubious download site, because we gimp developers
 certainly can think of scenarios where paying for your photo editing
 software makes a lot of sense.

 Simon, the phase appears at the bottom of this very page on 
 GIMPUSERS.comat
 www.getgimp.com

Yep, this is some dubious download site. Note the launches
DownloadAdmin™, which will mange your installation process. in that
site's fine print, that means that you can be tricked into installing
potentially malicious software alongside GIMP.


By using ad services that have such occasional ad banners  which point
to such scams, gimpusers.com - itself being a third-party site - does
unfortunately contribute to that confusion. Maybe they should find a way
to weed those out.

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Re: [Gimp-user] looking for gimp equivellent

2013-08-16 Thread Michael Schumacher
On 17.08.2013 04:56, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:42 PM, elizabeth whitlock wrote:
 Hi Im looking for the gimp equivellent to photoshops Viewextras. If there 
 is one. I need to open a jpg file with guides in it, but they do not show up 
 when I open the file.
 Thank you
 
 JPEG doesn't support storing guides. You want an impossible thing :)

They could be using an additional APPn marker. Maybe there's a reason
why those are called 'application-specific', though, even with that
widespread agreement on what APP0 and APP1 are used for.

Maybe GIMP should just store its own application-specific metadata in
any image format out there, seems to be common practice :)


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

2013-08-17 Thread Michael Schumacher
Am 17.08.2013 20:40, schrieb John Meyer:
 On 8/17/2013 12:41 PM, Burnie West wrote:
 On 08/16/2013 11:31 AM, Simon Budig wrote:
 I believe it to be a bad idea that mails fromfor...@gimpusers.com  are
 allowed on this mailinglist, it just confuses things.
 +1

 Especially if the gimp that gimpusers is installing includes a bunch of
 crudware and the customer's think that we're technical support for that.

This is a misleading statement. Please re-read what I wrote about their
use of ad services. It's the ad banners that point people to dubious
sites, not the download at gimpforums.*


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

2013-08-18 Thread Michael Schumacher
On 18.08.2013 02:54, Ofnuts wrote:
 On 08/17/2013 09:01 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:
 Especially if the gimp that gimpusers is installing includes a bunch of
 crudware and the customer's think that we're technical support for that.
 This is a misleading statement. Please re-read what I wrote about their
 use of ad services. It's the ad banners that point people to dubious
 sites, not the download at gimpforums.*


 I think you mean GimpUsers.*. AFAIK there are no ads on GimpForums.

Yes, I'm starting to confuse all these sites myself. Maybe this means
that there are too many already?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Weird boundary lines on pdf ?

2013-08-25 Thread Michael Schumacher
On 24.08.2013 15:30, Boblebad wrote:
 Hi
 
 I have a problem when exporting to pdf, i get grey boundary lines from some
 selections i have made and filled with white color.

Check if those selections have borders of partially selected pixels,
e.g. by examining the borders of the corresponding quick mask.

If yes, then this could be an effect of how partial transparency is
treated by the export to PDF or the viewer used to view the PDF files.


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