Re: [GNC] Having issues with gsettings, dconf, gsettings-dconf-backend and GnuCash

[Adrien Monteleone]

Considering the timing of the GnuCash release and the Ubuntu 23.10 
release, your build issues are likely due to dependency hell. I've had a 
few frustrating build sessions where GnuCash needed an ever so slightly 
older version of a library that wasn't in the new repos. (and this 
cascaded to some of their dependencies as well) Your build errors should 
be informative enough to figure out if that is the case here. (note, 
when I had that problem it was also on a non-LTS .10 release) Sometimes, 
this is resolvable with a bit of effort. Sometimes, it isn't worth the 
effort.


I see you switched from Pop_OS! 22.04 to Ubuntu 23.10. Any reason not to 
stick with Ubuntu 22.04? Maybe try that in a VM and see if you get the 
same build issues. (you could just keep that VM for GnuCash until you 
resolve the build problems in the host)


There is always flatpak. Of course, be aware of a few workarounds for 
printing and file locations for settings. These should all be documented 
on the GnuCash wiki.


Otherwise, some VM testing would be my approach, though considering how 
you've described your OS transition and upgrades, as well as other OS 
issues, I'd consider the nuclear option if I wasn't too far invested in 
the current installation. A clean install has saved me weeks of 
continued frustration more than once.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/21/23 10:43 AM, Bryan B. wrote:

That is a good idea.

To give some context, without explaining everything: One week ago, I was
running the Ubuntu-based Pop_OS! 22.04. On that system, I had GnuCash built
using the "Building on Ubuntu" gnucash-wiki 22.04 script. I did not have
that issue at that time, nor the other GnuCash issue that I encountered
here:
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-devel/2023-October/046795.html

I was having other issues with Pop_OS! (network issues that were needed on
my previous job), and at the recommendation of my previous employer I
decided to switch to mainstream Ubuntu.

When I switched to Ubuntu 23.10, this issue appeared, along with the issue
with gsettings.

Another issue that is worth mentioning, in case this happens to anyone
else, is that I got unlucky with the .iso file I used to install mainstream
Ubuntu. I somehow Googled my way into creating an .iso based off of 22.10,
which is a version of Ubuntu that is no longer supported. I installed on
22.10, then discovered my error. At that point, I upgraded to 23.10.

I also should mention another thing I just remembered. Whenever I open
dconf, even if I don't click anything, Terminator, a terminal app I use for
coding, stops working correctly: when I type text and approach the side of
the app window, three characters proceed off the edge of the screen before
the app's autowrapping feature kicks in and the following characters appear
on the next line down.

Also worth mentioning is that the issue with being unable to switch
gsettings background image on the desktop existed before installing the
dconf gui app.

Based on the feedback I am getting, it does seem that something deep within
ubuntu is likely broken and a complete reinstall from scratch is the only
reasonable way to fix this.

I do like the idea of rebuilding using a virtualbox 23.10 iso and getting
the system working first, before redoing everything. Thank you!


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Re: [GNC] scheduled transactions: simple or compound interest calculations in

[Adrien Monteleone]

I could be misunderstanding the desired goal.

Do you want the interest portion to be calculated on the immediate 
deposit or on the entire account balance?


If the immediate deposit, you would simply add a split for the interest 
and indicate the amount. (since it is fixed, the rate is irrelevant as 
the math always produces the same result, thus no formula is needed.)


If on the account balance at the time, you can prompt yourself for that 
as a variable and let GnuCash do the math.


The interest split would in this case have a formula instead of a fixed 
amount but where the current balance would appear you simply use a word 
say 'balance' and gnucash will treat that as a variable. When the 
transaction fires, GnuCash will prompt you to enter the balance amount 
to be used in the formula.


Create a copy of your file and do a test transaction as practice if it 
helps.


-
Note, the example you cite of adding code to a Scheme file is a much 
more advanced approach and it appears to be for a more complicated 
situation than you are describing.

-
The first transaction in just about any Asset or Liability account will 
be to Equity:Opening Balances. This is fairly standard accounting practice.


In double-entry, money does not appear or disappear. It moves from one 
account to another. With respect to Opening Balance, you think of it as 
a reason or explanation more than a source or destination account if 
that helps.



Regards,
Adrien

On 10/20/23 2:38 PM, Name Same wrote:

Hi there,

I am new to gnucash, so please pardon me if this sounds too simple a
question.

How do I schedule transactions to automatically add a percentage interest
for a fixed deposit for a fixed deposit account?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed_deposit

The material on how to enter/use simple or compound interest formulas in
scheduled translation is not clear. Here are the links I found: 1)
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Scheduled_Transactions#Bank_Account_Interest,
and 2) https://code.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/invest_int1.html

Link 2) doesn't have a screenshot that shows what entries were made in the
fields/forms to calculate interest, and shows just the result.

Another side problem I face is: When I create a fixed deposit account with
an initial amount, the scheduled transaction template for some reason keeps
adding "opening balance" to the transactions. How do I just schedule
interest deposits based on opening balance of fixed deposit account?


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Re: [GNC] Bulk invoice printing

[Adrien Monteleone]

You'd still have to generate the PDFs individually, which is just 
'printing to a file' and so not really saving any clicks. *Then* you 
need to send them to the printer with more clicks as you describe.


I could be mistaken, but I understood the issue was having to go through 
the steps:


1. Generate an Invoice (lots of clicks and typing, even with the 
duplicate function)

2. Print it (select printer, adjust settings, etc.)
3. Repeat for each member

While in this case it is only an annual workflow, having more than a 
dozen or so of these to do all at once is tedious, and having 50+ is 
crazy repetitive and a strain on fingers. (and increases the probability 
of doing something wrong due to the monotony)


If steps #1 and #2 aren't done at the same time. Then you could add:

1a. Do a Find for the invoice(s) or open invoices from AR via the 'jump 
to invoice' on the right click menu

1b. Display the Invoice Report

Optionally the steps can be reversed which runs an Invoice Report, and 
then you have to choose which customer and invoice. (even more clicks)


No matter the workflow chosen, lots and lots of clicks are involved with 
the present state of GnuCash. The Business Features were designed for a 
small consultancy that occasionally generates a few invoices. That 
doesn't mean you can't use it otherwise, but it wasn't optimized for 
other use cases.


Regards,
Adrien

p.s.—you pressed the right button.

On 10/16/23 11:22 PM, John Walker wrote:
I am unsure if I have pressed the right buttons in replying to Adrien 
and Arek and everyone else on the list.  Please let me know.


If printing is your only issue, I suggest that you make pdfs of your 
invoices through Gnucash and store them all in the same folder.


When you go to print, use file explorer, go to the pdf folder where your 
invoices are stored and select which pdf files you want to print.  Then, 
right click on one of the selected files and left click on *print*.  All 
selected files should print individually for you on your default printer.


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Re: [GNC] Bulk invoice printing

[Adrien Monteleone]

Note, using an outside app like an office suite also has the benefit of 
*generating* lots of invoices very quickly via import, and avoiding the 
tedious steps to create them one-by-one in GnuCash.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/16/23 9:30 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

No, that won't work.

This is a long standing bug/enhancement request.

Your best bet is to use an outside invoice generating system, and then 
import the resulting transactions into GnuCash. You can then still 
manage individual payments and member statements of account in GnuCash. 
(Customer Reports)


While there are specialized invoicing apps and services, you could 
likely accomplish this with an office suit using a spreadsheet for the 
math and data, and a word processor to do a data & mail merge for the 
actual printable invoice. You then import a CSV from the spreadsheet 
into GnuCash with the invoice data.


See the Help & Guide for the CSV import template.


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Re: [GNC] Bulk invoice printing

[Adrien Monteleone]

No, that won't work.

This is a long standing bug/enhancement request.

Your best bet is to use an outside invoice generating system, and then 
import the resulting transactions into GnuCash. You can then still 
manage individual payments and member statements of account in GnuCash. 
(Customer Reports)


While there are specialized invoicing apps and services, you could 
likely accomplish this with an office suit using a spreadsheet for the 
math and data, and a word processor to do a data & mail merge for the 
actual printable invoice. You then import a CSV from the spreadsheet 
into GnuCash with the invoice data.


See the Help & Guide for the CSV import template.

Regards,
Adrien

On 10/16/23 8:51 PM, Arek Skibicki wrote:

We are a small community organization and are just starting to use GnuCash.

We create invoices for our annual dues to each member.  It would make 
life much easier if we could print those invoices in bulk rather than 
going from one member to the next.  If there is such a feature, I 
haven't been able to find it.


I'm not a programmer, but I suspect the easiest way to accomplish this 
would be to start from the invoice register (revenue account) and 
printing all entries within a specified date range using one of the 
invoice templates.


Is this possible?


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Re: [GNC] Solved: Strange issue with gnucash, document link column has disappeared from listings

[Adrien Monteleone]

Out of curiosity, what is the utility for showing that linked documents 
exist by account rather than (or in addition to) per transaction?


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/12/23 11:03 AM, gnuc...@harrisja.us wrote:


On 10/12/23 04:49, gnuc...@harrisja.us wrote:
I have been using gnucash for quite a while.  I downloaded the source 
and made my own version with some minor modifications.  A few hours, I 
tried to tweak another thing in gnucash and now when ever I open a 
gnucash file, in the account listing the column for showing linked 
documents is gone.




The document link column was not showing up because that is the way 
"stock" gnucash is written.  One of the tweaks I put in my modified 
version was adding that column, something I had forgotten about.  I am 
not sure what caused the link field to disappear in my modified version, 
but it was probably a version control problem.  At any rate, it has been 
solved now.


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Re: [GNC] F::Q XAU & XAG quotes not retrieving for 2 years

[Adrien Monteleone]

Thanks. I'm not sure I want to get that deep into it.

Yes, they were created as 'currencies' and can't be changed.

I'll just manually enter prices periodically. It is only two of them.

Regards,
Adrien

On 10/12/23 8:55 PM, Ken Farley wrote:
My guess would be that it's because they were created as a "currency" 
and can't be changed? I don't use any currencies as investments, so I 
don't have any experience with this kind of thing.


If there is a way you can specify the source of the quotes (i.e. not 
Alphavantage), you could take the unusual route of making your own Perl 
module that when asked for "XAG" or "XUA", uses one of the other sources 
like yahoo_json to get the quote using their symbols and spits back a 
quote using the symbol you need. I did something like this years ago 
when my employer insisted on giving us shares in a weird Employee Stock 
Ownership Plan, whose shares were equivalent to a strange fraction of 
the company's stock price. I'd get the stock quote, multiply it by the 
fraction, and off I went.


Not an elegant solution, but it will work.



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Re: [GNC] Bad date not caught

[Adrien Monteleone]

I shudder at the thought, but it is entirely possible they were (and 
still are) 'grandfathered' in!


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/12/23 7:02 PM, Dean Gibson wrote:
This includes the US 
FAA. which presumes MM-DD-YY.


So much for standards! I guess ISO8601 is pretty new (35 years ago) for 
some organizations!


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Re: [GNC] macOS Sonoma "Gnucash is damaged and can’t be opened" error

[Adrien Monteleone]

I'm suspicious of a missing step.

Did you *install* Gnucash, or just download the .dmg file and open it, 
then click Gnucash.app?


The .dmg file, when opened should have a shortcut to /Applications to 
make it handy to drag the Gnucash.app file over it for installation, and 
even has an arrow prompting you to do so. (you can drag and drop the 
.app file wherever you like in your home folder, but /Applications is 
traditional for all users to have access to it)


Pretty much *all* mac software is installed this way if contained in a 
manually downloaded .dmg. (the App Store does this for you 
automatically, but no, GnuCash is not distributed through the App Store)


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/11/23 6:49 AM, Vincent Lucarelli wrote:

I downloaded the image directly from the link on the gnucash.org 
 homepage.

I did try to run the fq updater from the command line before double clicking 
the Gnucash.app - could that have caused the whole app to be marked with 
quarantine?



On Oct 10, 2023, at 05:05, Vincent Lucarelli  
wrote:

I upgraded an Intel Mac to macOS Sonoma and downloaded Gnucash 5.4.  When I tried to 
run it, I got the error "Gnucash is damaged and can’t be opened.”

In previous OS versions, there was an error about untrusted developer and in 
System Settings you could approve running the application. System Settings has 
been reorganized and I could not find anywhere to approve Gnucash.

In the terminal, I ran

xattr -rds com.apple.quarantine /Applications/Gnucash.app

and then has to launch Gnucash twice for it to finally run.


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Re: [GNC] Tax report for India

[Adrien Monteleone]

It sounds like you created an account structure to separate taxable 
transactions, 'artificially'. (that is, you might have taxable and 
non-taxable version of the same account)


In that case, you don't run the Tax Report at all. (yes, it is only for USD)

Run a Transaction Report for those 'taxable' accounts.

If you are still not quite getting what you need from there, let us know 
as that report is quite powerful and flexible.


*note, in this case, it should also be possible to not need the use of 
distinct taxable accounts just for reporting purposes. You can include 
(say in the Notes field or Memo fields) your own 'tag' such as 
"taxable", "#taxable", or "@taxable" and the Transaction Report can 
filter for transactions based on that text. Use any text label for the 
tag you like, with or without a delimiter. (your filter for the report 
will simply work on whatever matching text you provide)


There is also a 'tag' based Transaction Report a user has created, and 
while I haven't tried it, the built-in facilities should do what you need.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/11/23 11:27 AM, Paras Desai wrote:

Hello friends

I was trying to find work around for getting summary of taxable income at the 
end if financial year end. I tried following

1. I put In discerption field as "TAX" while creating different income accounts 
for incomes which are taxable (like salary, capital gain, interest, annuity etc)
2. So practically, while posting income, I seperate them out as taxable and non 
taxable
3. I also selected "Tax" in tax report for such accounts though it is for USA, 
but just to identify such income
  as taxable
4. When I run tax report all report generated with INR value in peranrhesis as 
part of text, and income as 0, because it took currency as USD.
5. I tried to run account summary / transaction report with filter word  as 
Tax, but could not generate desired report.

Is there any good and efficient way to achieve my above mentioned objective?


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Re: [GNC] macOS Sonoma "Gnucash is damaged and can’t be opened" error

[Adrien Monteleone]

I thought Rosetta was included in this transition. (unlike the previous 
move from Power to Intel, where it had to be installed separately)


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/11/23 10:08 AM, R Losey wrote:

I thought that  for an M1 or M2 Mac, you need to have the Rosetta app to
allow Intel-based applications to run (such as GnuCash). Do you have that
installed?

I've never had any problems running GnuCash on my M1 iMac, but I'm still
running Ventura.



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Re: [GNC] columns

[Adrien Monteleone]

No there is not an easy way to rename them. If it is a translation 
issue, consider looking into how to go about suggesting an improvement.


Otherwise, you'd have to change the label(s) in the source and build it 
yourself.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/10/23 1:45 PM, Jose Fuenzalida wrote:

I just learnt that I can add more columns to the account page by clicking on
the triangle on the right top of the account page, is there a way to rename
any column and how do I access the info if I need to change it .


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Re: [GNC] GnuCash_user: rounding errors and significant digits

[Adrien Monteleone]

Bruce,

On a side note, (I think John addressed your immediate concern) what in 
tarnation is your e-mail client?


Not only does it oddly removing spacing between words for your own 
replies, but it seems to now eat spacings between words of other 
people's replies that you QUOTE!!!


Really, what gives? I've never seen such a thing. It is of course no 
serious matter to GnuCash, or this list, but I am genuinely curious! 
(*note, I left more than necessary quoted below as an illustration)


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/7/23 2:39 PM, Bruce McCoy via gnucash-user wrote:


OnSat, Oct 7 at 1:25 PM David Carlson wrote:

  >Howmany times must you bring up the same

  >non-point?




Youare right in that I am addressing a community of people who areinterested in 
and actively developing GnuCash. As a community, youuse GnuCash and tolerate 
some of its shortcomings, while improvingthe program. From that perspective, 
this issue may seem to be anon-point. It certainly is a small point. GnuCash 
has developed a lotsince 2000. As GnuCash continues to develop, the major 
points willhave been all, in general, decided. Until resolved, unresolved 
pointswill remain.




  >Manypeople have explained how arithmetic works,




AndI appreciate their expertise, but that does not address the questionat hand.




  >JohnRalls has explained how GnuCash works.




Johnhas done excellent work in developing GnuCash and has, graciously, ashave 
you all, helped me understand GnuCash better. These are justsigns of how nice 
you all are.




  >Doyou really think you're going to get a

  >differentanswer the N+1st time you post?




IfI have missed it, please help me. I do not remember getting an answerto the 
question “What are the plans to help our users whose booksare out of balance by 
a cent or so?”


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Re: [GNC] Issues Recognizing Account Names When Importing CSV into GnuCash

[Adrien Monteleone]

If I'm not mistaken, you should only have to do this once per account. 
Now, combining this with your other question, there is reason #2 to 
break this into smaller import chunks. You don't want to have to 
manually assign those in a large quantity in a single pass.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/7/23 12:01 AM, Gio Bacareza wrote:

I'm experiencing difficulties when importing a CSV file into GnuCash,
particularly when the file contains both "Account" and "Target Account"
columns. Despite meticulously encoding the account names in the CSV to
match the exact account names as they appear in GnuCash (e.g.,
“Asset:Cash”), the software does not seem to automatically recognize and
match these names during the import process.

Instead, GnuCash prompts me to manually match the account names through its
import wizard every time, which is unexpected and inconvenient. For
instance, even if the CSV file contains the precise name “Asset:Cash”,
GnuCash still requires manual intervention to match the names correctly.

Is there a specific reason for this issue, or am I possibly making an error
during the import process? I would appreciate any insight or advice on how
to streamline this process and ensure GnuCash recognizes account names from
the CSV file automatically.



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Re: [GNC] Issues Importing a Large CSV with Multiple Accounts into GnuCash: Is Duplicated Transactions Normal?

[Adrien Monteleone]

This is one of the reasons why it is not recommended to import a large 
file, especially one containing transactions from more than a single 
account on one side of each transaction.


Read over the Help Manual & the Tutorial & Concepts Guide concerning 
imports.


The usual recommended procedure is to break the import into smaller 
chunks depending on how many transactions you have in a month/year, etc.


So for example, you might import January 2023 of your checking account. 
(from whatever other app, or from a bank download) Then reconcile, and 
repeat for February, then March, etc.


As you go, you are training the matcher, so the imports speed up, and 
duplicates are detected.


It is up to you, how big the import chunks are, but bigger is not 
necessarily faster, and maybe rarely is.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/6/23 11:57 PM, Gio Bacareza wrote:

I've been attempting to import a large, consolidated CSV file containing
multiple accounts into GnuCash. Previously, I used to import transaction
logs from various accounts individually, which I thought was a cumbersome
process. To simplify this, I’ve created scripts to compile all transactions
into one comprehensive CSV file for what I thought would be a more
straightforward import process.

However, I've encountered an issue where GnuCash duplicates certain
transactions during the import. Specifically, this happens when a
transaction represents a withdrawal from one account and a deposit into
another, which are naturally recorded as two separate entries in the CSV.
For instance, when money is withdrawn from a bank account and deposited
into a cash account, the consolidated CSV file includes one row showing the
bank account debit and another showing the cash account credit.

I assumed that GnuCash’s import algorithm would recognize and eliminate
these duplicate transactions during the import process as it typically does
with other duplicates. Unfortunately, my tests indicate that it imports
both transactions, resulting in duplicated entries.

Is this a mistake on my part, or is this behavior expected from GnuCash
when importing a large CSV with multiple accounts? Any insights or
solutions to prevent these duplicates would be greatly appreciated.



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Re: [GNC] Reports exist but display blank?

[Adrien Monteleone]

The easy way to determine if it is a CSS issue is to try to select 
anything, or select-all and then copy/paste to anything else like a 
spreadsheet or text file. But usually just trying to select will produce 
a highlight and reveal text that matches the background.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/6/23 6:27 PM, Elmar wrote:
I'm running Version: 5.4 Build ID: Flathub 5.4.1 Finance::Quote: 1.58 of 
GC under Linux Mint 21.2


All reports, not only my saved ones, but all of them under the reports 
tab, now display a blank window.  All the options are still set as I had 
them when I look at the report's options (accounts reported, etc.), but 
nothing is displayed.   Is this a white on white font problem, and if 
so, where do I correct it?


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Re: [GNC] I have a MacBook Pro

[Adrien Monteleone]

Edwin, for whatever reason, the First Run Wizard apparently didn't run. 
I understand the end result of having an unsaved empty file is thus 
confusing.


A simple solution is to choose File > New, name your new book, and the 
Wizard *should* run to guide you through selecting accounts to add, 
import existing data from another app, etc.


If the Wizard does not run, and you'd like to use it, then report back 
here and we can assist further, otherwise, you can just start adding 
accounts individually as you think you need them.


Be sure to keep a copy of the Help Manual and the Tutorial & Concepts 
Guides open when first working with GnuCash. Both should provide plenty 
of assistance getting you started.


As for the 'unsaved' book, it should go away, but if not, simply close 
it and don't save any changes so you don't have an empty file laying around.


Regards,
Adrien

On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 3:17 PM Edwin Booth  wrote:



Okay. I figured how to drag it to the Applications folder. Now it appears
on the screen at the bottom right. I click on it and after the icon
“bounces” once it goes to the opening page in the middle of the screen and
then, immediately, back to that Unsaved Book - GnuCash. I guess now I just
have to enter data. But I’d like to have a tutorial to figure out what to
do.


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Re: [GNC] F::Q XAU & XAG quotes not retrieving for 2 years

[Adrien Monteleone]

Thanks, but I already tried to edit them.

I can't change the symbol for lookup (it is greyed out) and the source 
is simply 'currency' and no other options.


When I created entirely new securities using the symbols you provided, I 
was able to edit everything including setting the source.


It looks like I'll just wait until if/when F::Q changes back their 
Alphavantage call to include PMs.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/5/23 3:53 PM, Ken Farley wrote:
Oh I don't think you have to do anything terribly complicated. I've had 
mutual funds change their trading symbols in the past, and it was as 
simple as editing the security via


Tools-> Security Editor

Changing all the perinent information for the affected securities. 
Gnucash uses that info, not the accounts, to determine what price 
applies to which particular lot of a particular security. I'll admit I 
also changed the name and description of the accounts, but that's only 
because I use the security name as the account name for a particular 
asset (i.e. Assets:Investments:My Brokerage:XYZ is the sub-account of 
"My Brokerage" that tracks my shares of "XYZ").


Alternatively, I suppose you could just change the "Symbol/abbreviation" 
to the relevant "code". That is the text that is used in online quote 
retrieval. Leave "XAU" and "XAG" as the display symbols for each. I'll 
admit I've not done this myself, so you'll have to see how it works out 
for you as far as reports and such look. But I definitely have never had 
to create new accounts to deal with symbol changes.


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Re: [GNC] F::Q XAU & XAG quotes not retrieving for 2 years

[Adrien Monteleone]

Thanks Ken, I was able to add those two in a 'Precious Metals' 
namespace, that indeed works.


But now how to integrate that with my existing XAU/XAG denominated accounts?

I'm guessing I'll have to make new ones with those symbols for 
commodity, then delete the old accounts and let GnuCash move the 
transactions, but I can only imagine that could be a mess with the 
trading splits.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/4/23 3:27 PM, Ken Farley wrote:
Yahoo seems to use "GC=F" as the symbol for Gold. I am able to get the 
price of gold as shown in the following output from gnc-fq-dump


--> gnc-fq-dump yahoo_json GC=F

Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
     symbol: GC=F <=== required
   date: 10/04/2023   <=== recommended
   currency: USD  <=== required
   last: 1837.3   <=\
    nav:  <=== one of these
  price:  <=/
   timezone:  <=== optional


In a similar fashion, silver is apparently "SI=F".

--> gnc-fq-dump yahoo_json SI=F

Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
     symbol: SI=F <=== required
   date: 10/04/2023   <=== recommended
   currency: USD  <=== required
   last: 21.19    <=\
    nav:  <=== one of these
  price:  <=/
   timezone:  <=== optional


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Re: [GNC] Custom Multicolumn Report - Win 10

[Adrien Monteleone]

It works as expected on MacOS Monterey, so might be an issue with the 
Windows build, or your book/machine.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/3/23 2:25 PM, Nigel Stapley wrote:

Hi
Just installed Gnucash Build ID: 5.4+(2023-09-23) on Win 10.

Using Custom Multicolumn Report produces reports that are locked. No
options can  be changed as far as I am able to determine. Can anyone else
confirm this?


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Re: [GNC] F::Q XAU & XAG quotes not retrieving for 2 years

[Adrien Monteleone]

Hmm... Seems that as of F::Q 1.53, Alphavantage mucked with getting 
CURRENCY_EXCHANGE_RATE with the free API, so F::Q switched to a FX_DAILY 
request that doesn't include Crypto or Precious Metals, but there is a 
note (in the Github Issues) that Aphavantage then reversed their 
decision so now presumably you can get those quotes with the free API key.


But I don't see any further info that as of 1.58 (current F::Q) that 
they have now switched back to CURRENCY_EXCHANGE_RATE.


reference: https://github.com/finance-quote/finance-quote/issues/246

Regards,
Adrien

On 10/2/23 7:09 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
This has been on my back burner for some time, but I decided to tackle 
it for a spell tonight.


I haven't been able to retrieve an XAG quote since June 2020, and an XAU 
quote since December 2020.


I've updated F::Q, and tried running GnuCash with debug logging, but 
can't seem to find anything useful in the tracefile.


Running the fq-dump from a terminal doesn't tell me anything different 
from running it in GnuCash, only that:


```
     Quotes for the following commodities were unavailable or unusable:
     *CURRENCY:XAG Finance::Quote reported failure set no error.
     *CURRENCY:XAU Finance::Quote reported failure set no error.
```

Is anyone successfully pulling down these quotes?

(*note, I need XAG:USD & XAU:USD)


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[GNC] F::Q XAU & XAG quotes not retrieving for 2 years

[Adrien Monteleone]

This has been on my back burner for some time, but I decided to tackle 
it for a spell tonight.


I haven't been able to retrieve an XAG quote since June 2020, and an XAU 
quote since December 2020.


I've updated F::Q, and tried running GnuCash with debug logging, but 
can't seem to find anything useful in the tracefile.


Running the fq-dump from a terminal doesn't tell me anything different 
from running it in GnuCash, only that:


```
Quotes for the following commodities were unavailable or unusable:
*CURRENCY:XAG Finance::Quote reported failure set no error.
*CURRENCY:XAU Finance::Quote reported failure set no error.
```

Is anyone successfully pulling down these quotes?

(*note, I need XAG:USD & XAU:USD)

--
Regards,
Adrien

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Re: [GNC] iMac new OS?

[Adrien Monteleone]

It isn't just the notes field, the memos don't auto-fill in 5.x either. 
(this doesn't seem to be a problem with the 4.x series)


That is, for some cutoff of older transactions that I haven't nailed 
down yet.


Certainly, anything entered in the same session, does auto-fill, but 
that is mighty limited.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/2/23 5:47 PM, R Losey wrote:

Thank you. I ran GnuCash 5.3 and checked Activity Monitor - there is only
one process, so it must be new in 5.4. MacOS 14 (Sonoma) just came out, so
I can hold off for a bit.

I'm still uncertain about GC 5.4... my biggest irritation with 5.3 is that
the Notes field no longer pattern matches as it used to - I still haven't
figured out the pattern as to when it matches and when it doesn't. But the
zombie process on Windows is a trifle unsettling.


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Re: [GNC] iMac new OS?

[Adrien Monteleone]

I can't speak to Sononma as I'm stuck on Monterey (thanks Apple), but I 
can attest that 5.4 does not leave zombie processes, at least if you 
exit cleanly via 'GnuCash > Quit GnuCash'.


I did notice that there are now two GnuCash processes running, rather 
than just one as before, but I don't know when that started as I haven't 
watched it with Activity Monitor for many releases now. However they 
both terminated when I exited GnuCash.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/2/23 3:09 PM, R Losey wrote:

I see that iMac has released MacOS 14.0. I am currently running 13.6, but
would hate to have the OS upgrade break GnuCash. It probably shouldn't, but
I thought I'd ask the GnuCash community if someone among us has run GnuCash
with this latest MacOS.

I'm running GnuCash 5.3 (I haven't updated to 5.4 yet because I'm a little
concerned about the reports here that GC 5.4 leaves processes running... it
reads like it is a Window-only bug, but I run GnuCash on Windows as well).


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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 5.4 Repackaged

[Adrien Monteleone]

On 9/30/23 12:20 AM, Brad Morrison wrote:
I tried to look at the bug report cited below 
(https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799092), but GnuCash seems to 
use BugZilla to manage the bug reports. I have a BugZilla account for 
contributions I have tried to add to Mozilla products (Firefox & 
Thunderbird), but that BugZilla account does not work in the GnuCash 
version of BugZilla and I was unable to log in 
(https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799092&GoAheadAndLogIn=1). The 
Bugzilla websites/URLs are also setup differently for GnuCash & Mozilla.


Just because it has 'zilla' in the name doesn't mean it is associated 
with the Mozilla Foundation or any of their websites.


It is just a bug tracking app that runs on a server. You could run your 
own for your own projects. There isn't just one 'Bugzilla' site. (well, 
there's the one for the Bugzilla project itself I guess...)


Thus, there is no reason to expect that a login to the bug tracker 
(using the Bugzilla software) that Mozilla uses, would work on a bug 
tracker for an entirely different project. (yes, the Gnome bug tracker, 
no longer using the Bugzilla software, does track many projects under 
its umbrella, and GnuCash used to be one of them, but that changed when 
Gnome moved to a different system)


I then tried to use my GnuCash mailing list account 
(https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists & 
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo) and was also not able to log 
in to GnuCash's version of BugZilla 
(https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Bugzilla & 
https://bugs.gnucash.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=%E2%88%82Bugzilla).


That's for a separate app/service. (Mailman) Why would you think it 
would work for the bug tracker?


There is also a wiki and it has its own separate login. (as does the 
code server)


I suppose you could make them all the same user/e-mail and password 
though if you like, but such practice is usually not encouraged for 
security purposes for any two sites.


GnuCash still uses Mailman 2.1.29 
(https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html), which looks like it 
was released in July 2018 (http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/).


True. And I think there are some issues with it. But there are some 
reasons why the upgrade to the 3.x series has not happened. I don't 
recall them specifically. Perhaps the person in charge of that server 
could shed some light on it, but I'm pretty that has already been 
covered on this very list, so maybe do a search here to find that thread 
or threads.


I then tried to log in to Mozilla's version of BugZilla 
(https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/home) and was able to successfully 
(https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/user_profile?user_id=713226), but that log 
in did not carry over to GnuCash's version of BugZilla.


See above.

I am still not logged in and I would like to have no more than 1 account 
per software application that I use.


So, it would be nice if GnuCash could integrate the various online 
account systems that it uses (Mailman, BugZilla, whatever else) so that 
users would only have to have 1 log in for all of GnuCash. That is still 
way more decentralized that having a single Apple, Google, or Microsoft 
login that applies to dozens (hundreds?) of different websites.


That is a taller order and a bigger ask than you might imagine. Each of 
this list, the wiki, the bug tracker, and code, all run on separate 
server instances. They all have their own user databases. You comment on 
the complexity and options concerning the app itself below, yet you 
think the devs have time to devote to a centralized login server so you 
don't have to maintain separate accounts yourself? (like you do for 
everything else under the sun)


May I suggest a password manager? (Since you're using Mint, it has its 
own Keychain, and the same goes for Firefox. Does that integrate with 
the system keychain yet?)


I use Linux Mint 21.2 (https://linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=305). LM 
21.2 (https://linuxmint.com/rel_victoria_cinnamon.php) is based on 
Ubuntu 22.04 "Jammy Jellyfish" 
(https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-notes/24668). In 
the LM Software Manager, there are 2 options for GnuCash, the "System 
Package" option lists version "1:4.8-1build2" & the "Flatpak (Flathub)" 
option lists version "5.4+ (Flathub 5.4.1)." That basically matches with 
what is listed on Repology for GnuCash 
(https://repology.org/project/gnucash/versions - GNU version 4.8 for 
Ubuntu 22.04).


Each distro packages the most recent version of GnuCash at the time of 
the release. Since you are not on a rolling release distro, that version 
is 'frozen'. You may see a newer version if you enable a backports 
repository. (does Mint have that similar to Ubuntu?)


Otherwise, if you want a newer, or the newest version on Linux, your 
only other options are:


1. Build from source
2. Flatpak


LM 21.2 is the most current version of Linux Mint 
(https://linuxmint.com/download_all.php), but Repology lists the 
repository f

Re: [GNC] frequent imports always requiring intervention

[Adrien Monteleone]

Looks like a bloated signature that Steve should not use when posting to 
the list. (and who didn't start a new thread, twice now at that, mere 
minutes apart. Oddly, this one showed up for me after the second one.)


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/28/23 5:24 PM, David Carlson wrote:

Where are the lengthy off-topic footnotes coming from?

We do not need them in this maillist.


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Re: [GNC] Frequent imports always requiring intervention

[Adrien Monteleone]

Steve, you'd do better to start a new thread than reply to a different 
topic.


Simply send your message to the list address.

Otherwise, it might be buried and folks who can help might not see it.

As to your specific question, I don't use the importer, so I can't help 
with specific steps though I know what you are asking to be possible. If 
I recall correctly, it is during the import setup process that you do 
the training/assigning if the correct guess isn't made already. *Then* 
you proceed with the import.


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/28/23 4:20 PM, Steve Freeman wrote:

When I import transactions (using csv) about 10% do not import, i.e. show up
in red as requiring intervention. Some of these are repeated transactions,
e.g. Apple.Com/Bill $5.32.

Is there some way to teach GnuCash to accept these?


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Re: [GNC] Import saved-reports from 4.x

[Adrien Monteleone]

Roland,

You already have a thread posted on this, no need to repost to get an 
answer.


I saw your previous post, but didn't reply yet since I don't use the 
flatpak and was going to leave this for others who do.


However, I guess I can at least ask for clarification concerning:

"I don't see the custom reports when I open an invoice."

Where exactly are you expecting to see them when opening an invoice?

Custom Saved Reports are in Reports > Saved Report Configurations.

Are yours not there?

*note, the proper file name is:

saved-reports-2.8

NOT

saved_reports-2.8

(hyphen, not underscore)

I'm not sure if your post has a typo there or if your file is misnamed.

Regards,
Adrien

On 9/28/23 2:28 PM, Roland Giesler via gnucash-user wrote:
I eventually got around to installing a new Ubuntu 22.04 VM with 
flatpak, GNUCash 5.3 and postgres 14.


All is well, except that I can't figure out where to put my customised 
invoices file: saved_reports-2.8


According to /https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations/ it 
should be in either one of these:


/var/lib/flatpak/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/current/active/files or

/var/lib/flatpak/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/current/active/files/share/gnucash

However, I don't see the custom reports when I open an invoice.

Can anyone help with some details please?


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Re: [GNC] Window resizing issues on MacOS

[Adrien Monteleone]

This is getting weirder.

It is not one invoice, but so far, just the invoices from one Vendor.

Additionally, if I close all invoice tabs from that vendor, I can now 
resize left-to-right, but only using the title bar. The side of the 
window wants to drag the whole window and trying to resize at the bottom 
bar does not resize but does blank the entire window and then draws it 
in with a several second delay.


On a whim, I reset the custom Vendor Document Layout I was using, but 
that did not help.


After a restart of GnuCash, I was able to resize via the side of the 
window again, but only once.


Also, the delayed redraw doesn't even seem to start drawing at all until 
I mouse over either the toolbar or the tab bar. (which I have on the 
left side) Mousing over the main tab content area does not trigger the 
redraw.


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/28/23 2:12 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
Yes, it does change to a right or left-only arrow, sorry I forgot to 
mention that.


I usually keep several tabs open for some time, so I decided to start 
closing them to see if one was the issue, and indeed, one particular 
bill from one particular vendor is causing the problem.


Now, to see if I can figure out what is unique about that bill...


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Re: [GNC] Window resizing issues on MacOS

[Adrien Monteleone]

Yes, it does change to a right or left-only arrow, sorry I forgot to 
mention that.


I usually keep several tabs open for some time, so I decided to start 
closing them to see if one was the issue, and indeed, one particular 
bill from one particular vendor is causing the problem.


Now, to see if I can figure out what is unique about that bill...

Regards,
Adrien

On 9/28/23 1:51 PM, John Ralls wrote:

Adrien,

I don't see any resizing issues with 5.4. Late 2013 Mac Pro/macOS 12.6 and 2022 
M1 Mini/macOS 15 Developer beta from a month ago. The window shrinks to too 
small to be useful.

Does the resize cursor change from double headed to single headed when it 
declines to shrink any more?


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Re: [GNC] Reconciliation of accounts is not permanent

[Adrien Monteleone]

Mark,

I posted my comment about suggested date too soon. I forgot it is a 
preference.


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/28/23 9:46 AM, Mark Truelove wrote:

Hi, I just wanted to say wow, Gnucash has never suggested today as the
reconciliation date for me.  It is typically 30 days/a month after the last
reconciled date, which I then need to adjust to the statement date about
half the time (if it's a day or two off).  I can't remember it ever not
being that way.  Just an observation, not really relevant to my problem.


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Re: [GNC] How to Delete a Runaway Invoice?

[Adrien Monteleone]

That's really interesting. I've never seen that term before.

My Credit Notes say 'Credit Note' rather than 'refund'.

But I still think you need to focus on the accounting itself. If it is a 
Debit to AR, despite what the label says, it isn't a Credit Note. (or 
Refund)


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/27/23 11:32 PM, Jediator wrote:
Thanks again for the response.  Please find the attached screenshot of 
Customer Report in reference to the runaway invoice turned to a Refund. 
I guess I will try to recreate the issue in a test instance and file a 
bug report accordingly.


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Re: [GNC] Window resizing issues on MacOS

[Adrien Monteleone]

Thanks. That is interesting.

This appears to be perhaps an issue with MacOs then.

Regards,
Adrien

On 9/27/23 8:30 PM, Jediator wrote:

I haven't encountered any window resizing issue on Ventura 13.5.


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Re: [GNC] How to Delete a Runaway Invoice?

[Adrien Monteleone]

On 9/27/23 8:26 PM, Jediator wrote:
Thanks again Adrien!  I did answer your initial questions in one of the 
response messages, but it didn't get published.  Cutting and Pasted them 
below.


You may be right this isn't a replicated ID issue. To summarize what I 
encountered was:


1. An invoice automatically become a credit note after reusing the ID.
    It shows as a refund on the Customer Report.


That is odd for sure. But please explicitly state what you mean by 
'shows as a refund' because I have used Credit Notes, and other than 
being a Credit to the account, there is no such 'refund' designation.


*note, before going further, if you aren't already using formal 
accounting labels, at least for troubleshooting, please change that 
preference and then proceed so we are discussing (and seeing) the same 
terms.



2. Searching after that ID via Find Invoice turns out nothing.


Again, odd. I'd think at least one or both would have appeared unless 
you used additional criteria.



3. Clicking on the ID link on the customer report brings you to the AR
    screen, not to the View Invoice screen.


Another oddity. For my Customer Report, if I click the Invoice number 
link in the Reference column, I get taken to the Invoice or Credit Note. 
(I tested both, just to be sure)


Clicking on the Debit/Credit Amount (which is also link) takes me to the 
AR account at that transaction.


If you changed the Customer assigned to the invoice, it wouldn't show 
up on the original Customer Report. (did you change it back?)
-- I did change the customer name back to the original, but the problem 
remains.


Of course, because you changed the customer back to the original, that 
makes sense that it shows up on that customer's report. If you like, 
create a dummy customer, assign that old invoice to them (you'll have to 
unpost and repost) and then refresh the original Customer Report. It 
should no longer be there. Then change it back to the original customer.



How are you searching for the invoice you can't seem to find?
-- The search on the invoice ID turned out to be one.  Once opened, it 
is the newly created one.


Fair enough. Did you set any other criteria? Try 'Company Name' and 
'Invoice Owner' but don't add any other restrictions. See if they both 
appear now. (possibly along with other invoices for that customer)



Do they both show up in the AR register?
-- No, only the old one (now labeled as refund) shows up in AR. However, 
it is still under Debits instead of Credits.


That is really odd. So the Customer Report shows both, but the AR 
account only shows one?


From the Customer Report, click the Debit/Credit amount for the new 
invoice and see if it takes you to that AR transaction. Then do the same 
for the old Credit Note.


(the AR register should open and jump to the relevant transaction, but 
it sometimes brings it right at the top and you can't see the 
Description line so you might have to scroll slightly)



You can right-click that transaction to 'Jump to Invoice'
-- No 'Jump to Invoice', only 'Jump to another account' which leads to 
an income account.


You might have missed it, as it is in the middle of the menu. The 'Jump 
to the other account' is at the bottom. (see attached screenshot)


I can't delete from that account the corresponding 
transaction either.


That is by design. The proper step is to unpost the Invoice/Credit Note.

Once you are viewing the invoice, click the Edit Invoice button on the 
*toolbar*. (not the Edit link within the invoice!)


Now you can change Customer, ID, etc.
-- I changed the new invoice to another ID to ensure that the old 
invoice (labeled by Refund) is by itself.  The old invoice is still 
showing up on the Customer Report (labeled as Refund).  It is still 
showing on AR.  Now searching via Find Invoice after that ID turns out 
an empty result.


Where are you seeing this 'Refund' label?



I change my errant invoices to "USE NEXT" as the ID so I can spot them 
easily for re-use.


Note, you can't change the type. So if it was a Credit Note, you have 
to wait to use it for your next Credit Note. (for any customer, as you 
can re-assign it)
Shouldn't a refund/credit note show up in AR as a credit? But this one 
shows under invoice (debit) in AR.


Then why do you think it is a Credit Note? Simply because of the 
'Refund' label?


Does the Reference column in AR for that transaction say "Credit Note"?

If not and it says "Invoice" then it is an Invoice.

If this "Refund" label is something of your own typing on the new 
(actual) Credit Note, and the original invoice is still a Debit to AR, 
then I'd hazard the original invoice is still an invoice. (as the type 
is immutable as I noted, or should be)


What might have happened is that by duplicating the Invoice number, 
GnuCash confounded your own typed label of "Refund" and that is why you 
think it is one, but the accounting says otherwise.


As long as the above checks out, I think the only issues l

[GNC] Window resizing issues on MacOS

[Adrien Monteleone]

I'm running 5.4 on 12.6.9 Monterey and I just noticed that window 
resizing issues appear worse.


Prior to 5.4, resizing worked, but would temporarily or partially blank 
the target window during the resize.


Now, I just accidentally widened my main window and it won't resize 
smaller. I can resize larger and then back to this same point, but it 
appears to have a new minimum width. (targeting a window with the mouse 
has also been a problem for some time, which is how I accidentally 
resized it)


Anyone else notice similar issues?

(I'm sure it is a GTK and not GnuCash issue, but I'd thought I'd ask 
here first)

--
Regards,
Adrien

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Re: [GNC] Reconciliation of accounts is not permanent

[Adrien Monteleone]

It seems I forgot that is influenced by: Preferences > Register > 
Reconciling > 'Always reconcile to today'.


Apologies.

Regards,
Adrien

On 9/27/23 7:22 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
On the contrary, GnuCash has *always* as far as I can recall after over 
a decade, suggested today's date for the closing date. I don't ever 
remember it suggesting a date in the past.


And when I tested this last night on an account I know I haven't 
reconciled in over a year (yes, I'm behind in duties) it suggested 
yesterday's date, not something over a year old.


Is your System date correct?


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Re: [GNC] How to Delete a Runaway Invoice?

[Adrien Monteleone]

On 9/27/23 7:28 PM, Jediator wrote:
Thanks Adrien!  I am using the latest version 5.4 of GC, running on 
Mac with a Postgresql in the back-end.  Please see answers to your 
questions below.  Additional questions to this mailing list:


It seems your answers didn't come through for some reason.



  * Has this bug been reported or should I take the initiative to
    report (this is the first major headache I encountered in GC).


What do you think is the bug? Duplicate ID's? I thought that was fixed 
for 5.4, but now I see it is not in the release notes. Can you still 
assign two invoices the same ID with 5.4? Then perhaps checkout bugzilla 
to see if it was reported and/or add a comment if so.



  * I was wondering if an SQL-delete to remove that record from the
    database would solve this problem.  However, the old invoice (now
    it turned into a credit note) is nowhere to find in the invoices
    table.  Where is it recorded?  Any damage it may cause if I just
    delete that record?


You *shouldn't* edit the data file with SQL, or at least do so at your 
own risk. Maybe ask on IRC about specifics.


And I"m still not sure how you managed to turn an invoice into a credit 
note. I thought the types were immutable.


-

I'll wait for your answers to my below questions as they can help guide 
my follow-up suggestions on finding and editing the errant credit note.


Regards,
Adrien



On 9/27/23 12:13 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

I think this was a bug in early 5.x, but should be fixed as of 5.4

That said, you can't delete invoices.

If you changed the Customer assigned to the invoice, it wouldn't show 
up on the original Customer Report. (did you change it back?)


How are you searching for the invoice you can't seem to find?

Do they both show up in the AR register?

You can right-click that transaction to 'Jump to Invoice'

Once you are viewing the invoice, click the Edit Invoice button on 
the *toolbar*. (not the Edit link within the invoice!)


Now you can change Customer, ID, etc.

I change my errant invoices to "USE NEXT" as the ID so I can spot 
them easily for re-use.


Note, you can't change the type. So if it was a Credit Note, you have 
to wait to use it for your next Credit Note. (for any customer, as 
you can re-assign it)


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Re: [GNC] Reconciliation of accounts is not permanent

[Adrien Monteleone]

On 9/27/23 10:47 AM, Mark Truelove wrote:

Hi again. Besides my tendency to be details-specific (given my professional
background), I also had some college level accounting and understand
double-entry, reconciliation, and the basics.  No, I am not an accountant,
but I have been using GnuCash mostly successfully for more than twelve
years now.  I am new to this list, but not to the topics we're discussing.


Fair enough, thanks for the clarification.


Regarding using the wrong year for the reconciliation date, the program
suggests an approximate date based on the last, and at the moment that
recommendation is 9/24/22.  This is not in a vacuum, however, because all
of the unreconciled transactions between August '22 and present are still
in the ledger awaiting reconciliation against these 12 or so monthly
statements that I just re-downloaded.  If I'd simply entered the wrong
year, this would not be the case.


On the contrary, GnuCash has *always* as far as I can recall after over 
a decade, suggested today's date for the closing date. I don't ever 
remember it suggesting a date in the past.


And when I tested this last night on an account I know I haven't 
reconciled in over a year (yes, I'm behind in duties) it suggested 
yesterday's date, not something over a year old.


Is your System date correct?

Regards,
Adrien

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Re: [GNC] Reconciliation of accounts is not permanent

[Adrien Monteleone]

Good catch. But that would imply some serious mass editing on the part 
of the OP to clear the reconcile flag. (and most likely dimissing the 
warning during those edits)


Neither is out of the question, but either or both would be rare for the 
OP to not remember doing so.


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/27/23 3:53 PM, John Layman via gnucash-user wrote:

I can assure you that GnuCash reconciliations 'stick'.  I very rarely encounter 
a discrepancy in the opening balance of a bank or credit card account.  When I 
do, there is always a data-related explanation to account for it.  It is not 
related to a software bug or quirk.  Any transaction mistakenly backdated or 
inadvertently deleted may throw those balance figures off, but it's your error, 
not the software.  The software does not 'lock' reconciled accounts such that 
you are prevented from making the sort of inadvertent goof that inserts or 
deletes a transaction prior to the date of the previous reconciliation.


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Re: [GNC] How to Kill a Runaway Invoice?

[Adrien Monteleone]

I think this was a bug in early 5.x, but should be fixed as of 5.4

That said, you can't delete invoices.

If you changed the Customer assigned to the invoice, it wouldn't show up 
on the original Customer Report. (did you change it back?)


How are you searching for the invoice you can't seem to find?

Do they both show up in the AR register?

You can right-click that transaction to 'Jump to Invoice'

Once you are viewing the invoice, click the Edit Invoice button on the 
*toolbar*. (not the Edit link within the invoice!)


Now you can change Customer, ID, etc.

I change my errant invoices to "USE NEXT" as the ID so I can spot them 
easily for re-use.


Note, you can't change the type. So if it was a Credit Note, you have to 
wait to use it for your next Credit Note. (for any customer, as you can 
re-assign it)


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/26/23 9:36 PM, Jediator wrote:
I was trying to reuse/repurpose an invoice ID for a customer (e.g. 
change the amount and date), but made a mistake of changing the customer 
name in between (not sure if was the cause).  Now I ended up with two 
invoices with the same ID on the customer report, with the old entry 
labeled as a Refund (with the amount still listed under Debits to AR) . 
I tried multiple ways to kill that refund invoice, but couldn't 
succeed.  Looks like the Invoice ID in GC isn't unique, so I ended up 
with two invoices and the old one just no where to find and noway to 
unpost.  Any suggestions how to kill that invoice (i.e., remove the 
corresponding entry in Accounts Receivable)?


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Re: [GNC] Reconciliation of accounts is not permanent

[Adrien Monteleone]

Unless you never enter a transaction after a reconciliation that is 
dated before that last closing date, *and* you never have any 
transactions that aren't reconciled at each and every reconciliation 
(that is, some that haven't cleared the institution yet, but are in your 
books) then you will likely never see the suggested Opening Balance 
match the presumed 'opening date' on the day you attempt reconciliation. 
(the 'opening date' is not shown or listed, as it isn't relevant, only 
the closing date is.)


For that matter, the account balance as of a closing date isn't likely 
to match the statement closing balance for reconciliation if any 
transactions haven't cleared yet.


The purpose of reconciliation is to verify that from the last closing 
date to the new closing date, the listed transactions cleared the 
account and thus explain the change from the opening balance (last 
closing balance) to the new closing balance listed on the statement.


The actual balance, in your books, on a given day, or as of a given day, 
is irrelevant to that reconciliation.


-

Now, how are you *certain* that those reconciliations didn't happen and 
that there is no record of them?


Run a Reconciliation Report and select a desired account.

Set the date to say, 1/1/22 and the end date to 'today'.

Leave all other defaults.

You'll get a report showing transactions and their dates, sorted by 
Reconciled status with Reconciled first. (followed by Cleared and then 
Unreconciled)


Look that over carefully. If you have blocks of transactions with a 
reconciled date before they allegedly occurred in real life (the 
transaction date)—e.g, you had transactions from May '23, reconciled to 
perhaps May '22, then it is quite possible you had the wrong year on 
your closing date dialog when you thought you were performing the May 
'23 reconciliation.


If you know for a fact you did, say a May '23 reconciliation, and those 
transactions all show in either the Cleared or Unreconciled section of 
the report, then yeah, you have a problem.


But the fact that you have backup files also with no evidence of these 
reconciliations is extremely odd. (it isn't like GnuCash is going to 
edit or trash data in multiple files at one time)



Regards,
Adrien

On 9/26/23 11:05 AM, Mark Truelove wrote:

Hi all, I just joined the list. I thought I'd give this a try before moving
to a bug report, because I can't believe this happens to me and no one else
has experienced it.  I did try searching list history as suggested with
google, but didn't find anything referring to this specifically.

Also, this is not the first time experiencing this phenomenon, probably the
third.

I use gnucash for personal finances, so I have a checking or cash account
and a number of credit card accounts.  All of these are reconciled several
times a year as I receive statements, although not always on time every
month.  However I don't go three months without catching up on all my
accounts in any case.

Today (and on previous occasions), I started my periodic reconciliations
because I had statement notifications in email.  I opened my credit card to
reconcile and had the month's statement in a browser window.  At first I
was unable to match the "beginning of month" figures to fill out the small
prompt window when reconciling.  After a few glances I realized that it was
trying to match the beginning balance to September of LAST YEAR instead of
last month.  I have reconciled this account to its statements 9 or10 times
in the last year, including last month.

In previous months, I reconciled this account and saved it normally, and
that information was retained for the following months' reconciliations.
Now when it forgets, it is losing/ignoring several months of previous
reconciliations, but not all of them (since this account is at least 20
years old).  When I checked them all, it has forgotten reconciliation data
for three other accounts as well (while another six accounts in the same
file are fully up-to date).

I have backups of my files, both through GC's own backup system and my own
rotating backups.  Loss of data files is not an issue here.  This got me
thinking, and I went back and reloaded some of these backup files
directly.  When loaded, they are all missing the same information as my
current file.

So, one could say, user error - he actually didn't reconcile for months,
and the files show that.  Unfortunately, I DID reconcile all of these
accounts, and the program is treating some aspect of the data as if it
doesn't exist beyond that point, regardless of the source file.

I'm a retired IT pro, an IT Manager and other roles over 40 years.  I know
how this looks at first glance.  If this hadn't happened to me twice
previously I wouldn't be taking the time to report this in detail today.

I'm currently running v5.3.  I downloaded 5.4 but haven't upgraded yet bc I
didn't want to compound the problem.  If this is a known issue and 5.4
fixes it, then great, I'l

Re: [GNC] GnuCash_user: rounding errors and significant digits

[Adrien Monteleone]

It still did not come through as you likely can't send zip files through 
this mailman instance.


What exactly are you sending, just images? Attach them individually, or 
else post them on a hosting site and simply paste the links in another 
reply.


---
And it seems at least in this last message, you figured out whatever 
weird text spacing issue you were having...


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/25/23 8:24 PM, Bruce McCoy via gnucash-user wrote:

Since this is a relatively long post, there are summaries at each end. The first section runs 
through "Old Business." The second section starts with "New Business."
The third section is just the attachment. To see the illustrations, please 
unzip the attachment,if present. SpamAssassin blocked the attachment.I do not 
know how to get the attachment to you. I am sorry.


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Re: [GNC] Have code run when a new invoice is posted.

[Adrien Monteleone]

On 9/25/23 3:19 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, there is an app listed on 'Using GnuCash' on the 
wiki that can record and execute GUI clicks (along with other scripts) 
like a really fancy Macro. That might be worth investigating.


Indeed, I am mistaken as it is not on that page. But I do recall seeing 
it somewhere on the wiki, and it has also been mentioned on the list a 
few times.


Regards,
Adrien

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Re: [GNC] Have code run when a new invoice is posted.

[Adrien Monteleone]

Scheduled transactions can likely do most of that work, but they can't 
automatically fire based on some other event outside of the schedule.


If I'm not mistaken, there is an app listed on 'Using GnuCash' on the 
wiki that can record and execute GUI clicks (along with other scripts) 
like a really fancy Macro. That might be worth investigating.


Optionally, you'd have to set some type of watcher to detect when a new 
invoice/bill appears in the data file which would then trigger your 
script/macro.


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/24/23 9:55 AM, fly...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I started using gnucash 2 months ago and I'm currently using it in
parallel with another accounting software. In general gnucash does what I
want (VAT accounting, accrual accounting of other taxes). However,
currently when I post an invoice I also have to post a bill for some
percentage of its net value as my income tax (I'm in a scheme where
income tax is just a percentage of income, no expenses are taken into
account etc). I'm looking for some method to automate this.

Ideally I'd love to be able to run some code (guile/python) when a new
invoice is posted. That code could then create and post a bill to be paid
before the 20th of next month for the taxman.

Another option is, to create a bill every month on the 1st, to be paid next
month on the 20th and the amount to be a percentage of net value of sales
invoiced this month.

I don't know if any of this is possible in gnucash. I know about the
offline python and scheme APIs (offline as it can manipulate the accounts
when gnucash is not). I could write a python script that runs with some
regularity and creates/updates the income bills based on the invoices
present, but this doesn't seem such a "nice" solution as to have some code
run at the moment an invoice is posted, or have some formula in the bill
value that takes into account this month's sales.

  If anyone has an idea how to do the above, please let me know,


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Re: [GNC] Using GC for Property Management

[Adrien Monteleone]

Yeah, AI is not presently a danger, precisely because it doesn't exist. 
That's just marketing hype.


The danger is that people *think* it exists and are trusting those 
algorithms as if it does.


Like any tool, the danger lies not in the tool itself, but with the user 
who doesn't understand what it can and cannot do.


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/25/23 2:52 PM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:

+1

This has been widely publicized, and it's kind of scary there are people
who don't know it.

Until someone pointed it out publicly, AI would cheerfully give
information abut the recordholder for walking across the English Channel.

And a lawyer was disciplined for submitting a brief with multiple
citations of cases that were completely fictitious. You guessed it: they
were generated by an AI.

And that's without even getting into the moral implications of using AI.
Frex: Theft of intellectual property is a major cause of the Hollywood
writers strike, and a lawsuit by several well-known literary authors.


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Re: [GNC] Using GC for Property Management

[Adrien Monteleone]

This is an accounting question more than a GnuCash question, but I did 
notice something that trying to do this in GnuCash, may help with the 
caveat that you need to discuss this with a local CPA. This is not 
accounting advice, but a starting point for questions to ask the CPA.


I'll make inline notations below, but with Debit(Dr.) & Credit (Cr.) 
labels as those are more traditional and easier to follow, especially 
using GnuCash.


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/22/23 1:36 PM, Jediator wrote:

Dear GC users,

I am trying to set up GC for a small property management business. There 
are three actors involved:  Renter, Property Owner, and Property 
Manager.  Renter pays rent on a monthly basis to property management, 
and the manager pays the property owner after taking out certain 
percentage of management fee.  Here is the workflow I came up with:


Renter(Customer) --> Invoice --> Accounts Receivable


This should be:

Dr. Assets:Accounts Receivable
  Cr. Income:Rent


Rent Payment    ---> PM Escrow (Income Account) 
--


Usually you'd involve a bank or cash account here and AR, but since you 
have a pass-through collector for you (the property manager), you'd use 
an intermediary asset account, perhaps:


Dr. Assets:PM Escrow
  Cr. Assets:Accounts Receivable

This credits the Renter's AR balance due and shifts your asset from AR 
to the funds being held by the Property Manager. (which at this point, 
would be a liability on their books)


Think of that similar to a bank account. The funds are legally yours, 
but you don't physically possess/control them. (yet)




   Check to Owner 
Issued↓


Owner(Vendor)  -->  Bill ---> Acct Payable (Rental Passthrough) 
--> Rent Passthrough (Expense Acct)


  | (split)↓
  ---> Acct Payable (Commission) 
--> PM Commission (Income Acct)


If you know the commission in advance, I'd create vendor bill as soon as 
possible. (maybe the same time as the rental invoice)


That bill would look like:

Dr. Expenses:PM Commission
  Cr. Liablities:Accounts Payable

When the Property Manager remits a check for the balance minus their 
commission, you'll have this transaction:


Dr. Assets:Undeposited Funds
  Cr. Assets:PM Escrow

This reduces the amount owed to you via that escrow account, by the 
Property Manager.


You can then 'pay' the vendor bill from the Escrow account:

Dr. Liabilities:Accounts Payable
  Cr. Assets:PM Escrow

and then deposit the remainder to say, Checking:

Dr. Assets:Checking
  Cr. Assets:Undeposited Funds


Note, you *could* combine two of those, but that is more difficult to do 
with the business features. You can't do it via the 'pay bill' dialog. 
You'd have to create the transaction or import it, and then 'assign as 
payment' on the relevant split. The combined transaction would look like:


Dr. Assets:Undeposited Funds
Dr. Liabilities: Accounts Payable
  Cr. Assets:PM Escrow

The first Debit is for the balance remitted to you, the second is to 
cover the Commission bill (the one you'd assign as payment) and the 
third clears out the Escrow account balance. (for that period invoiced)


I'm sure there are plenty of other options for Escrow/Holding accounts 
and the transactions would be slightly different if you do any direct 
deposit from that property manager.


Could anyone please comment on if this is workable?  Creating both 
invoices and bills every month is kind of tedious.  Any suggestions of 
how to simplify/optimize the process?


I really wished that GC would have the option to link Vendor/Customer to 
a transaction without creating a bill or invoice.  Any future 
development plans for this feature?


I don't think there are any plans to bypass the Business Features to 
facilitate other workflows.


You do have some options though:

1. Import bills & invoices, via CSV.

This will save some clicks and maybe typing, especially if the documents 
and amounts don't change except for dates. You could just re-import the 
same CSV each month and increment the invoice/bill numbers.


2. Use the Duplicate Transaction feature.

This would be handy for the payments and depositing transactions and of 
course, you can easily update the transaction date, num, and amount(s) 
but it gives you a 'template' type of effect to save some typing and 
remembering which splits to include. Of course, you still need to 
'assign as payment' as needed.


3. Use Scheduled Transactions

Similar to the Duplicate function, but it can fire on a schedule, with 
or without prior 'approval' by you and can include formulas for amounts 
that can use variables that you get prompted to input when they fire. 
This doesn't relieve the 'assign as payment' step, but might be more 
robust than simply duplicating a previous instance.


4. Some combination of #2 and/or #3, forgoing the Business Features 
entirely, and crafting your own

Re: [GNC] Using GC for Property Management

[Adrien Monteleone]

ChatGPT cannot give you an answer.

It is designed to spit out sentences that plausibly sound like a human 
answered your question.


There is a universe of difference between the two.

One implies accuracy, the other is B.S. that appears accurate to those 
who don't know better.



Regards,
Adrien

On 9/22/23 2:56 PM, Mark at Lorimark wrote:

well...

I don't know how to answer your question, but considering what I would 
do if I were asking the same questions...


I went to ChatGPT and asked the big AI.  Here is what it said;


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Re: [GNC] Upcoming/future invoices not visible on vendor report

[Adrien Monteleone]

The Vendor/Customer reports I think default to 'today' as the end date 
of the report.


Thus, perhaps set 'End of Accounting Period', (generally the end of the 
year) to see future due bills/invoices.


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/20/23 10:00 AM, Jediator wrote:
Hi GC users, I created some invoices for vendors with future dates (e.g. 
10/16/2023), so I can plan ahead to see what bills are coming.  The 
invoices were created correctly and clearly visible under account 
payable, but they won't show up on vendor report.  Is this a normal 
behavior of GC (designed on purpose) or a software bug?


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Re: [GNC] Finding my company data

[Adrien Monteleone]

Dick,

To reply to the list, simply use the reply-all button of your mail 
client app. If your client has a reply-list button, use that instead. 
Otherwise, set the 'To:' header of your reply to the list address:


gnucash-user@gnucash.org


As to your Saved Report issue, the name of the file these are stored in 
changed from v2.6.x


See the Wiki concerning 'Configuration locations' (do a search on the 
wiki for that phrase) and there you will find detailed information about 
where GnuCash configuration and preference files are stored depending on 
your operating system. (and GnuCash version)


You are presently interested in:

saved-reports-x.y

This used to match the version number, so the existing file is most 
likely named:


saved-reports-2.6

Simply rename it:

saved-reports-2.8

Relaunch GnuCash and you should find them as expected.

(2.8 was supposed to be the next major version after the 2.6 series, but 
the numbering was changed, and the jump made to 3.0, and we are now 
about to get 5.4, and yet, this file is stuck on "2.8". I suspect this 
has something to do with the underlying report system requirements, but 
I am not certain as to why, and at least no one has had to keep changing 
this file name with each version since that change.)



2.6.x certainly had an auto-save preference and I too had mine set to 5 
minutes. (I think that was the default) I've since switched to using the 
sqlite backend, and now I get instant saves.



Regards,
Adrien

On 9/19/23 11:56 AM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:

Subject: Gnu Cash: Finding my company data
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2023 09:45:48 -0700
From: Dick Courter 

Thanks Stan

Was not sure how to answer using the list, so, answering direct to your
email address.

I did in fact finally find my Gnu Cash data file intact as I had
understood it would not be deleted upon updating the software.

However, it appeared in a different location on my hard drive than I had
been looking according to the path that I had suspected.

Now my problem is that I had several Saved Report formats that I cannot
find when clicking on the Saved Reports. I am not sure what file
extension those saved reports are using. I found a folder that says
saved reports and but the update apparently does not recognize that
path. I tried copying that folder over to the location of my data file
and the update still would not find and open the saved reports.

Do have suggestions? Deeply appreciated.

BTW, I have used Gnu Cash for several years and really like it. Have not
used the new version yet to fully appreciate new features other than I
quickly found that there is now a way to automatically save new data
every 5 minutes. I love that as my old 2.6 something did not allow.


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Re: [GNC] Gnu Cash stopped working 2 days ago.

[Adrien Monteleone]

Note, the tracefile gets overwritten when you start GnuCash.

So if you start it, then it crashes or you exit, at that point is when 
you try to obtain the tracefile, and *before* you launch GnuCash again.


Do a search on wiki.gnucash.org for 'tracefile' for any other details/info.

Regards,
Adrien

On 9/17/23 11:13 AM, (Alan) David Smith wrote:

There is still no trace file. But you now have crash report.


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Re: [GNC] Financisto: How to Import Chart of Accounts Exported Out of GnuCash

[Adrien Monteleone]

You might get lucky that someone here also uses that app, but this list 
is for how to do things using GnuCash - not other software.


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/15/23 2:32 PM, Tom Balazs wrote:

I exported the Chart of Accounts out of GnuCash, in CSV format. I want to
import that to Financisto (Android). I think I did that in the past. In
Financisto, the Menu / CSV Import seems to be for importing transactions.
Under Accounts I can create an account, but I don't see where I would
import a CAO that is in a CSV file. How can I do that?


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Re: [GNC] Recovering

[Adrien Monteleone]

I'm glad that helped.

Regards,
Adrien

p.s. — Please always remember to copy the list on all replies.


On 9/14/23 10:15 PM, Rogier F. van Vlissingen wrote:

Found it, so yes, there are lots of .gnucash files, but the short ones of just the name 
of the "book," and .gnucash are what you need to open the book again, and then 
it saves that file in the menu for next time. etc.

I am back on track. 



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Re: [GNC] Recovering

[Adrien Monteleone]

I'm not clear on your question.

Are you asking which file is your data file?

Do a search with your file manager for anything ending in ".gnucash"

Those are 'book files'. And unless you intentionally made more than one, 
there should be only one result.


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/14/23 7:25 PM, Rogier F. van Vlissingen wrote:

I had a disastrous disk crash, and on top of that a backup that appeared to
have holes in it, so I was up a creek without the infamous paddle.

Now recovering, and I feel like a stranger in my own house. Just looking at
my GNUCash files (I have one company for three years in Gnucash, I simply
do not know by which file to open GNUCash and could not find guidance in
the Help file.

Any ideas?


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Re: [GNC] Porting Auto Completion from v4 to v5

[Adrien Monteleone]

They are not erroneous. I'm dealing with this issue right now.

Maybe the confusion is that there is more than one 'auto-complete' 
happening.


1. Description field now has a results pop-up similar to account 
selection. This is populated from the other descriptions already entered 
in the register, just like John said. There is no 'stored list' that is 
independent.


2. Transaction data *used* to be auto filled for you after you accepted 
a suggested Description. This other data would include the Notes field, 
along with all splits from the last time this Description was used, 
memos, amounts and all. If this was intended to be slightly different, 
you edited the splits as needed, but a lot of typing was already done 
for you.


3. Memo text would auto-complete similar to the Description (before the 
pop-up) based on other matching Memos. (I don't think that memo had to 
also be for the same description, but I'm not certain) This saved lots 
of time re-entering such text. Gnucash even helpfully auto-selected the 
same account when you last used that memo. An example here would be if I 
entered "Bell" Gnucash might suggest "Bell Peppers" and I could 
tab/enter to accept the suggestion, and it would also auto-select 
"Expenses:Groceries", and even the amount I last paid for Bell Peppers, 
so all I had to do was tab through, and/or change the price.


#2 & #3 no longer happen, unless I've recently entered that Description 
and/or Memo.


#1 works just fine and is helpful to show if you've got similar 
descriptions with spelling errors.


It is like the code is no longer searching all of the open register for 
that matching info.


I haven't yet tested to see if this it working as before just for new 
transaction since 5.x, or since the last time I opened the register, or 
the last time I opened GnuCash. I rarely close the app, so at first it 
appeared as if it had amnesia for all transactions prior to 5.x, but 
after a recent reboot, I'm suspecting it only auto-fills transactions 
and matches memos "from the current session".


I don't know if that is intended behavior, an unfortunate trade-off in 
exchange for the new Description list, or a bug.


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/14/23 2:57 PM, sunfish62--- via gnucash-user wrote:

So the reports of others on the list 
(https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-September/108792.html, 
e.g.)-- that auto complete resets with version 5 and previously-saved 
completion data is not retained-- are erroneous. I wonder what caused them to 
reach their conclusions.


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Re: [GNC] keyboard shortcut - how to implement for open/close splits?

[Adrien Monteleone]

Interesting use of Description. (I learn something new everyday)

I turned on Transaction Journal View early on and never looked back.

Thus, I put 'thing' in the Memos. (those get auto-filled by the way 
after you auto-complete a description, well, at least until 5.x, but 
they still do if I enter then anew)


-
As for 5.4, that's due 9/24, 11 days from now. (almost always on a 
Sunday evening, I think)


see:

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Release_Schedule

Regards,
Adrien

On 9/13/23 2:51 PM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:

My Description
lines mostly look like
thing: vendor
and then most of my Memo items are empty.

I think I'll wait for 5.4. I haven't checked the chronology, but it
can't be too far away now.



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Re: [GNC] keyboard shortcut - how to implement for open/close splits?

[Adrien Monteleone]

The 'not related to a bug' is literally that — a change that didn't have 
a formal bug report as documentation.


That doesn't mean it wasn't designed to fix an otherwise 'undocumented' 
bug, or in the case of the accelerators, to head one off due to other 
changes outside of GnuCash control. But it could indeed just be an 
improvement in the software.


In their cleaning up of the codebase (and other duties) the devs 
routinely find things that need fixing but that no one has reported yet. 
Usually these are just code improvements, but sometimes, they involve 
things that aren't really working as expected/intended. You'll see those 
listed under 'not related to a bug'.



As for auto-completion, other than having to retype memos from before 
5.x, I don't have an issue with it at all.


But that might be due to how I treat 'Descriptions', which is as a 
literal payee/payor, and *not* what the transaction is for. I use the 
Notes field for that info, and Memo fields for line item detail. Thus I 
quite possibly have an easier time of auto-completing my Descriptions 
than others.


I might also be lucky that my Payee/Payor Descriptions rarely have more 
than 2–3 similar letter sequences, so my lists to choose from are either 
non-existent or very short.


I don't know how you or others use the Description field, but if you do 
similar as I do, your odds of having issue with the feature aren't 
likely to be high for the same reason(s). Of course, 5.4 will be out 
soon enough.


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/13/23 1:29 PM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:

Thanks! But that change is in release notes for 4.9, i.,e. the
pre-release 5.x, so that wouldn't be relevant to 4.14, right? And the
change is marked as not related to a bugfix.

So I'm still confused. Was there a bug in 4.14's handling of accelerator
keys in accelerator-map, or wasn't there?

I'm reluctant to upgrade to 5.3 because of the auto-completion issues
with transactions, which I understand will be fixed in 5.4. If it really
means no customizable accelerator keys in 4.14, I'll live with that. But
I'd at least like to be sure that's what it means.


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Re: [GNC] keyboard shortcut - how to implement for open/close splits?

[Adrien Monteleone]

There usually aren't any ground breaking *new* features added each 
release. The biggest reason to upgrade is bug fixes, the second is 
performance improvements, and every so often, some new ability or really 
nice convenience is added.


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/12/23 6:34 PM, George Riner wrote:
I've upgraded to 5.3. I don't think I use most of the features of 
GnuCash, just my personal finances. It works for me and while upgrades 
get released, I'm not in a rush to grab the latest version.


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Re: [GNC] Where are GC log files located on Mac with remote database server?

[Adrien Monteleone]

I'm using sqlite on Mac and I have log files. Though I don't see them 
generated often. I'm not sure if that is because I rarely close the app 
except for updates.


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/11/23 4:15 AM, sunfish62--- via gnucash-user wrote:

Others will correct me, but my understanding is that the log files are not used 
with the database backend, since the changes are committed immediately.


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Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash as an Accounting Tutor

[Adrien Monteleone]

It was renamed at some point.

Indeed, saving the filter change now works as expected. Thanks!


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/10/23 12:35 PM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:

On 2023-09-10 09:01, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

there is Tools > General Journal. (by default I think only the last 30
days, but you can change that with 'View > Filter by...' Sadly, there is
no way to turn off the filter by default, and it has to be reset each
time the General Journal is opened if desired.


Not quite sure what you mean here, Adrien.

In GC 2.x, General Journal was called General Ledger. The filter on
General Ledger would not persist, even if you ticked Save Filter.
Closing and reopening the General Ledger tab reverted to showing the
past 30 days, even if you reopened General Ledger in the same GC session.




In 4.14, the default is only to show the past 30 (or 31?) days. But when
I set a filter to show everything from a particular date till today and
tick Save Filter, that filter _does_ persist, even if I close and reopen GC.

And there _is_ a way to turn the filter off once and for all: View »
Filter, select Show All, tick Save Filter, and click OK. I've tried that
just now, and it also persists through closing and reopening GC. There
are other options to select a number of days or a date range.

I don't have 5.x (waiting for 5.4's release), but II wouldn't think it
likely that General Journal filtering was re-broken in 5.x.


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Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash as an Accounting Tutor

[Adrien Monteleone]

+1.

Those two preferences will most closely resemble pen & paper and should 
greatly assist them learning accounting.


Also turning on View > Notes, doesn't hurt as my own accounting text 
uses explanatory notes on some journal entries.


Finally, if you prefer they enter transactions in a combined journal as 
a pen & paper method would, and then simply view them in each account, 
there is Tools > General Journal. (by default I think only the last 30 
days, but you can change that with 'View > Filter by...' Sadly, there is 
no way to turn off the filter by default, and it has to be reset each 
time the General Journal is opened if desired.


*note, 'journal entry mode' is officially titled "Transaction Journal." 
(I use it exclusively, though some folks like "Auto-Split" which does 
the same but only for the currently focused transaction)


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/10/23 9:13 AM, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:


I currently use examples built in Excel but am exploring the 
possibility of
moving to GnuCash, which allows its users to think in terms of 
double-entry
accounting using debits and credits, and to make entries using these 
terms.

It allows students to create different types of accounts
(asset/liability/equity), make journal entries for them using proper
accounting terminology, and then create financial statements.


You just have them choose the options "formal" (use debit and credit) 
and "journal entry mode" (otherwise just when entering "splits")


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Re: [GNC] Issues

[Adrien Monteleone]

On 9/2/23 4:05 PM, Greg wrote:
We're both still working on a custom "Weekly Payroll Report" that I 
designed and created with 2.4.13, but it disappeared.  It worked great! 
It was a fantastic template - all you had to do was change the date each 
week.  I showed (taught) him about the style sheets. I also showed him 
about the accounts tab under options in the transaction reports.


Check the Wiki concerning file locations. (just do a search on the wiki 
for "file locations") and you'll find a very detailed breakdown of where 
everything GnuCash related is stored.


While it seems you are describing an entirely custom report, I do know 
the 'saved reports' file changed names and the migration for many 
involved manually renaming the file accordingly. (I'm not entirely 
certain why this file is named with the version as part of the file 
name, but it is what we live with)


This may or may not address your exact issue, but I'd bet something in 
examining those file locations will shed some light on why your report 
'disappeared'.



Yes, Windows 10 will tab.  However, I am talking about the separate 
account register tabs displayed within GNUcash, that you can display: 
top, bottom, left, or right. (Which gives him more options)


His screen resolution is x1080, My screen resolution is 4K 
(3840x2160) with NVIDIA display.  Does that matter?


Okay, good to know we're discussing the GnuCash tabs. Note my followup 
reply about the arrows at the ends of the tab bar, and about the tab 
list via right-click. Does that help?


As for resolution, x1080 is most likely 1920x1080 which is standard 
HD. That is plenty large enough for more than 5 tabs. (It is what I use)


Something else is definitely wrong. I'd say it is time for a bug report.

Regards,
Adrien

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Re: [GNC] Import question

[Adrien Monteleone]

Nicolas,

Your screenshot didn't come through, likely because you pasted it 
'inline' in the message, rather than explicitly attaching it. (inline 
gets stripped from the message by the mailman software)


While I don't do imports regularly myself from other exported data, from 
what I gather reading related threads on this list, CSV is likely your 
better option than QIF unless you have some really good reason for using 
QIF.


I'm sure there is a more direct approach to your immediate issue with 
formatting, but a temporary solution would be to edit the CSV before 
importing to change the comma to a decimal.


There are myriad tools to accomplish this, but an easy one would be to 
open the CSV in your favorite spreadsheet app, select the column with 
amounts, and do a Find & Replace on the Comma to a Decimal.


If you wanted to learn or already know awk or sed, you might save a few 
keystrokes and mouse clicks each import by setting up a simple script to 
accomplish the task. Someone may already have done this and maybe shared 
it somewhere.


Then, proceed with your import.

Regards,
Adrien

On 8/31/23 4:07 PM, Nicolas de La Chaise via gnucash-user wrote:
My bank only offers 2 formats when exporting transactions: either QIF or 
CSV.


If I choose to import in QIF, there is no way to see the amount of the 
transaction that is being imported. I find it quite useful as some 
online shopping transactions can fall into many different accounts. 
Would it be possible to see it added in an upcoming version?


Now, to go around this I was hoping to use the csv format. Only to hit a 
different problem. The CSV I import has French number formatting 
(decimal separator is ','). And when the import tool runs it seems to 
get awfully confused by it. In the screenshot below, amounts should be 
(for UK/US readers) -50.8 / -40.0 / -5.7 / -1.6
I already poked around with encoding and currency format to no avail. 
The amount is split in two and cannot be glued back together.

Do anyone has a workaround?

Note:
     GNC 4.4
     Debian 10


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Re: [GNC] Some questions about the Account Summary Report

[Adrien Monteleone]

Chris,

Please remember to copy the list on all replies - I'm forwarding this 
one for you.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/31/23 7:15 AM, Chris Green wrote:

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 06:31:29AM -0500, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
Yes, generally, sub-accounts are indented for each level in the account 
tree. You mention that "Lloyds" was 'further left' but it appears here, 
and most likely in your report as 'further right'. If not, maybe provide 
a PDF of the report so we can see what you are seeing exactly.



The **name** of the account is further right, but the column with its
balance is further left.



As for the £0.00 figures, play with the preferences in Options > Display 
concerning zero balance accounts, and parent account balances to see the 
possibilities. The changes should show on the report in real time as you 
make them, but if not, simply hit the reload button on the toolbar. You 
don't need to exit the Options window for each change.


> OK, thanks, I'll go and take a look in the options.

--
Chris Green



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Re: [GNC] Some questions about the Account Summary Report

[Adrien Monteleone]

Yes, generally, sub-accounts are indented for each level in the account 
tree. You mention that "Lloyds" was 'further left' but it appears here, 
and most likely in your report as 'further right'. If not, maybe provide 
a PDF of the report so we can see what you are seeing exactly.


As for the £0.00 figures, play with the preferences in Options > Display 
concerning zero balance accounts, and parent account balances to see the 
possibilities. The changes should show on the report in real time as you 
make them, but if not, simply hit the reload button on the toolbar. You 
don't need to exit the Options window for each change.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/31/23 6:04 AM, Chris Green wrote:

I have just started using the Account Summary Report as an easy way to
give an overview of the church finances to the PCC members.

There's a couple of things I can't quite understand though, especially
about the alignment of the columns and the values that appear in them.

The following depends on fixed width fonts to show correctly.

I see, for example. at the top of the report:-




Account CodeAccount title   Balance

 Assets£0.00
Current Assets   £0.00
   Lloyds   £9,999.60


 Income£0.00
Collections  £1,111.11
Fees £2,222.22
... ..



Why is the amount for 'Lloyds' further left than the other amounts? Is
it simply because it's a lower level sub-account?

What is the meaning of the £0.00 against Assets, Income, etc.  One
would have expected that the value against Income would be the total
of all the Income sub-accounts.

Have I got something wrongly configured?



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Re: [GNC] Migrating from Quicken

[Adrien Monteleone]

If you can export the bills and invoices on their own as a CSV, (not 
individually, but bills separate from invoices) you can manipulate the 
resulting CSV to fit the format required by GnuCash for import.


You will need to create Customers & Vendors prior to the import, as well 
as the relevant expense accounts (for bills) and income accounts. (for 
invoices)


If this type of filtered export is available, but not as a CSV, report 
back here what formats are possible and someone here can advise the best 
one to use, and then how to convert it to CSV afterwards.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/31/23 3:31 AM, Theana Wessels wrote:

I am migrating from Quicken, I have read the migration documentation but am
experiencing problems with migrating the business data.

I've exported all the Quicken data in one QIF file. The "normal" financial
data migrated successfully with accounts created for all the Quicken
categories etc, but all the business data is grouped under one account
called "business bills". The categories used in the business centre in
Quicken are not replicated with accounts in GnuCash.

  When importing the QIF file, I do get messages about unknown account
types.


*Account type: The account type "Bill" is unknown, using Bank instead.*

*Account type: The account type "Invoice" is unknown, using Bank instead.*
*Account type: The account type "Tax" is unknown, using Bank instead.*

I was considering editing the QIF file, but I'm not sure if it will work.


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Re: [GNC] Issues

[Adrien Monteleone]

I forgot something, so please I hope you read this first and don't go 
down those rabbit holes just yet...


I currently have 17 tabs open. (mix of reports, invoices & accounts) I 
normally keep this on the Left side as I get to see more tabs at once, 
and because of my wide-screen oriented monitor, I prefer reserving the 
vertical space and using some of the extra horizontal space for tabs.


But I switched it to 'Top' position as a test, and also narrowed my 
window roughly in half. (usually 1920px, so now 960px)


I've attached a screenshot of my resulting tab bar. You'll see arrows to 
the left and right of the outside tabs. Those allow you to advance back 
and forth to the next tab that you can't see. (but they are open)


Also, if you right-click any tab, you'll get a tab list to choose from.

I think this was introduced in 3.x, but I could be mistaken.

Regards,
Adrien

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Re: [GNC] Issues

[Adrien Monteleone]

Greg,

Glad to hear you are liking 5.3! I originally played with 2.4.x way back 
in the day, but never became a serious user until the midst of 2.6. The 
app has improved significantly since then, with several very 
'productivity oriented' improvements. I look forward to the continued 
progress. I know the dev team is tiny, but quite dedicated, and all of 
them are insanely patient, understanding, courteous, and helpful to the 
rest of us mere mortals.


-

Now, on to the errant installation:

I'm on a Mac, so I can't test this, but does Win10 have the ability to 
'tab' separate windows as a function of the OS? (Mac does)


If this is the case, by 'tabs' do you mean "within the gnucash 
interface" or do you mean "within the Windows OS"?


The first case is separate tabs like in a web browser or spreadsheet.

The second case is roughly similar, but the UI is a bit different and 
each 'tab' is really a separate window of the app. (the window title bar 
appears tabbed, or else a separate tab bar above/below it, but clearly 
different from what GnuCash provides out of the box otherwise)


Of note, check "Preferences > Register Defaults > Other Defaults > 
Register opens in new window", and make sure it is *not* checked. 
(meaning you get 'GnuCash' tabs within the app - not separate windows, 
tabbed together or not)


And if Win10 doesn't have this ability, consider having him play with 
checking that preference as a workaround. (he'll have to manage separate 
windows, but the ability to open more than 4 might be worth it, and 
managing them with the keyboard, mouse, or the Windows menu which shows 
a list of open windows of the app)


There is also "Preferences > Reports > Location > Report opens in a new 
window", which will spawn a window instead of a tab for reports, which 
can help further testing.


My next question would be, "Does the limitation of 5 total tabs also 
include reports, a mix of reports and accounts, or just accounts?"


And then my only other question would be, "What is his screen resolution?"

My recommendation regardless of that answer (it is just for my 
curiosity, as I know some really small screens might have issues - there 
is a really reasonable design minimum, 800px I think) is to please file 
a bug with all of the relevant details, especially anything that is 
unique to that laptop that isn't working properly.


*Also Note - he shouldn't have to shorten account names. The built-in 
solution should be to substitute ellipses for longer names past the 
charcter preference limit. If that is not happening - definitely file a bug.


*Last Gasp — does he by chance have a custom UI stylesheet on that 
machine? There are ways to directly alter UI elements via CSS, at least 
as of 2.6. I'm not sure if that was possible in 2.4. But if so, an old 
display rule might be at play causing havoc. See the Wiki about GTK 
customizations: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Customizing_the_Appearance


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/29/23 11:14 AM, Greg wrote:
Hi Adrien, I called the other person last night, on the phone, and we 
played with Edit/Preferences/Windows/Width, changing the character 
spacing. He was elated that it "worked", not entirely.  He had to 
shorten the name on the accounts.  But it gives him some ideas to play 
with. I'll have to have him try to put the tabs vertically.


How version 2.4.13 started acting flaky with Windows 10 on both our 
machines, suddenly, all the reports, just disappeared.  Well, now we're 
using 5.3.  At least with mine, everything seems to work fine.


I'm very elated with version 5.3 on my machine. There are many new 
features that work GREAT! Now, to get 5.3 properly working on his machine.


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Re: [GNC] Issues

[Adrien Monteleone]

See the wiki FAQ about upgrading.

The suggested path is to upgrade to the end of each major version, 
running "Actions > Check & Repair > Check & Repair All" at each step.


So your path would have been:

2.4.13 -> 2.4.15 (final 2.4.x version, might be optional) -> 2.6.21 
(last 2.6.x version) -> 3.11 (last 3.x version) -> 4.14 (last 4.x 
version) -> 5.3 (or current release)


Cleanups and migrations are done along the way. Skipping right to 5.3 
might not bring everything forward properly.


And of course the usual caveat of always keeping a backup copy of your 
file at each stage applies.


Between 2.6.x & 3.x some other file locations were changed. These are 
documented on the Wiki and in the release notes. If you find custom 
saved reports and other things besides data didn't make it through an 
upgrade, the migration might have not completed properly and you'll have 
to do some things manually. (most systems upgrade fine. I don't know if 
it was ever discovered what caused this issue)


Now that you're already on 5.3 and have opened the data file, I'm not 
sure what you will encounter or what problems might result. This 
particular issue I would find strange to be associated with the migration.


There is a Tab Width preference you could maybe play with. Also consider 
temporarily moving the tab bar to say the left or right so it is 
vertical and see if more than 4 open. Also consider changing the 
preference to open new tabs in new windows instead and see if the 
limitation persists.


You mention this is on a laptop. Is there room in the tab bar for 
another tab or is it full at 4 + Accounts? (5 tabs total)


If so, a bug report might be in order.

Regards,
Adrien

On 8/28/23 1:59 PM, Greg wrote:
Hi Adrien,  I realize that 2.4.13, was extremely old, but it completely 
worked for me.  Whenever I upgraded, I always had a new set of issues, I 
really didn't have time to deal with.  2.4.13 started acting a little 
flaky with Windows 10, so I thought it may be time to install 5.3.  When 
I installed 5.3 on my machine, I first completely deleted 2.4.13 , 
including the configuration and report files.  I then snooped all over 
the computer and deleted anything pertaining to GNUcash.  I then ran 
CCleaner and Privazer and deleted any residual registry entries.  I then 
rebooted and did a fresh new install of GNUcash 5.3.   Everything worked 
great.  I was first impressed by the Account Reconciliation report, 
which 2.4.13 lacked.


I'm familiar with the style sheets and created custom ones for our 
purposes. I'll have to check the fonts, as you stated.


I  suppose  I should have said, "Can only display 4 account register 
tabs on the screen, besides the Accounts tab." Normally, the register 
tabs "shrink" to allow more account registers to be displayed, but his 
doesn't. Could that be in Edit/Preferences/Windows?


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Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files

[Adrien Monteleone]

That's mostly my fault on the 'administrato' vs. 'administator' issue.

But I only kept typing that because Barry reported a file path at one 
point with that spelling, and I wasn't certain of a possible different 
language in use, so I didn't correct it. If Barry transcribed the file 
path instead of copy/pasting it, that would explain the spelling.


As for permissions, I'm not even concerned about root/admin vs. not but 
simply one user trying to save into another's file tree. That alone 
would most likely return a permissions error message. It seems Barry is 
logging in regularly under an account with that name, but GnuCash is 
opening a file stored under another user. (at some point that had to be 
done manually via File > Open, or since this is Windows, perhaps 
navigating to that other user and double-clicking the file - still 
manual and intentional)


Why the file is there instead of the regular user account, I don't know.

But I see the solution as moving it to the regular user account, fixing 
the file ownership and permission flags, and then proceeding to clean up 
the multiple file/backup file apparent mess.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/28/23 4:14 AM, Maf. King wrote:

I also note, and it may be a typo by Barry, but the user often being called
the "Administrator" account by some people on the list has been listed in a
file path by Barry more than once as "administrato"

What I'm saying is that there is no certainty that one account is or is not a
"root" operator with whatever extra rights or not.


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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

[Adrien Monteleone]

I'm not disagreeing.

I think there is a language barrier at play though.

It appears that 'attachments' as a skill has been resolved, so maybe 
progress is possible.


We'll find out soon enough.

Regards,
Adrien

On 8/28/23 4:32 AM, Nigel Stapley wrote:

As a watcher of this list might I suggest you good folk call a halt. I
suggest to OP that he takes a basic course in managing his computer with
Windows. Someone who doesn't appear to understand what is meant by "logging
in" needs assistance way beyond the remit of this list. Although
increasingly it looks like a wind-up to me!


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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

[Adrien Monteleone]

On 8/28/23 3:40 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:
OK, as I answered earlier on this thread, today, I use Thunderbird as my 
email software. I use it as a specific application.


Sorry, I must have missed that message.

Since you use Thunderbird, there is a clear 'Attach' button in the top 
right of every compose window with a preceding paperclip icon. Use that 
to attach screenshots. Do NOT copy/paste images into a reply. They will 
be removed and no one will see them. ONLY use the 'Attach' button.


BTW my issues with sending attachments starts with file manage and 
specifically with gnu files, don't know why.


No one here has asked you to attach any gnucash files that I recall. 
We've only been requesting screenshots, which are images.


I don't know why you keep thinking you need to send us your personal 
data files. You do not need to do so.



Regards,
Adrien

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Re: [GNC] Issues

[Adrien Monteleone]

Greg, 2.4.x was a very old release. Did you properly go through the 
version by version upgrade on both machines, or did you just jump from 
2.4.13 to 5.3?


And what do you mean exactly by 'display accounts on the page'? Can he 
not open more than 4 register tabs? (so 5 tabs total including the 
ever-present 'Accounts' tab) Maybe a screenshot here will help clarify. 
Obfuscate any sensitive numbers/info of course.


As for the negative numbers issue:

That preference is for the Accounts Tab & various Register Tabs.

Reports have their own separate display controls via Style Sheets.

Unless otherwise specified, all reports use the 'Default' style sheet.

You can set a custom style sheet via Options, or else edit the default 
style sheet via Edit > Style Sheets.


From there, select 'Default' and click the Edit button. You'll see on 
the Fonts tab an option for 'Negative numbers in red' that you can 
un-select.


Click 'Apply', Then reload the report. Future reports should behave 
accordingly.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/27/23 9:38 PM, Greg wrote:
Hi, several weeks ago, I installed GNUcash vs 5.3.  I had been using vs 
2.4.13. I used to be the financial accountant at our church for 20 years 
until my disability forced me  to retire.  The man that took over uses 
2.4.13, however installed 5.3 on one of his Windows 10 laptops, but he 
is having issues, where I am not.


The issue he is having, is that he can not display more than 4 accounts 
at one time on the page.  I have no problems displaying even 7 
accounts.  After displaying more than 4 accounts, they just horizontally 
shrink to accommodate more accounts on my Windows 10 laptop.  His does 
not.  He can only display 4 accounts.  Is there a setting to change that 
will allow him to display more than 4 accounts?


The issue I am having: Despite changing the option not to display 
negative numbers is red in the preferences,  negative numbers still show 
up in red in reports.


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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

[Adrien Monteleone]

Thanks Liz, I forgot to check those.

Regards,
Adrien

On 8/27/23 9:45 PM, Liz wrote:

My observation from the headers was Thunderbird


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Re: [GNC] Ajuda na Tradução da Documentação para Português Brasil

[Adrien Monteleone]

Thank you for the correction John. And thanks for the 'good to know' info.

I didn't think any of you spoke/write Portuguese, but I also didn't 
think very far, that because of this, ya'll are less likely to peruse 
that list...


My apologies for any noise, and I'll endeavor to remember this tidbit in 
the future. I certainly don't want to direct someone to a place that 
won't result in a proper answer.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/27/23 11:20 AM, john wrote:

Marcondes,

While Adrien is correct that there's a Brazilian mailing list, no-one in the 
development team reads or writes Portuguese so this is the right place to offer 
to translate. Please use English here.

We'd be glad to have a Brazilian Portuguese translation of the documentation, 
but you need to know that it's quite a bit of work and there are some technical 
aspects that can be challenging: The documents are formatted using Docbook, an 
XML dialect, and you must use git and Github pull requests to submit your 
translation. Please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Documentation_Translation 
for detailed information.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files

[Adrien Monteleone]

Barry,

On 8/27/23 12:49 PM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:


OK,I have an app called CaptureWiz but it doesn't save as gps



"gps" as a file format was never requested. I don't know why you think 
it was. Why did you even comment on this fact, who told you that was the 
necessary format? (where did you get that idea?)


Note, you *do not* need a screenshot app, though some of them do offer 
extra abilities.


At a very basic level, Windows OS has supported the PrtSc key on your 
keyboard for 30+years. If you hit that key, a screenshot of your current 
viewport will be saved somewhere. In the past it was a BMP format to the 
clipboard, but I've heard modern versions save a PNG to a folder. You 
NEED to do a tad bit of homework to learn how this works. Of course, if 
you already know how to use CaptureWiz, that is fine. I'm sure its 
formats are compatible with this list.


--

Here goes with an attachment - recent files in tax accounts and returns, 
as I said, not used as gnucash data from loading, recently, but seem to 
have recently saved files. Further mystery.


Not a mystery. You clearly are not paying attention to where you are 
saving your files or where you are accessing them from. (once you told 
us it was 'tax accounts and returns' under the 'Barry Mahon' user and 
other times you told us it was under the 'Documents' under the 
'admistrato' user)


We can help you to a point, but the end result relies on you. You 
absolutely *must* get it straight in your mind where your files are 
stored. We can help you sort that out, especially now that you've 
figured out attachments.


I have REPEATEDLY stated not to try to send your actual files to us. 
Those won't do any/much good.


Yet, that is what you just did. And in this case, you sent a log file, 
which is effectively useless to us. (you also sent everyone on this list 
an actual copy of your GnuCash file — 2 of them in fact — that is all of 
your personal financial activity! No one ever requested this, I still 
don't know why you keep insisting you need to send it. It does us no 
good with regards to trying to help you.)


I'll congratulate you that you did in fact this time manage to send an 
attachment, even if it wasn't what was requested.


Now you know how to do it properly.
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My question now is can I and how do I move over to adminstrato?


NO! NO! NO! Do *not* move them over to the user 'adminstrato'! You need 
to take the files that are stored in the 'adminsistrato' tree and move 
them to the 'Barry Mahon' user — opposite of what you are thinking. And 
I have no idea why you'd think otherwise. No one has suggested what you 
are referencing. (that I recall)


The attached files have no 'save' icon live, so, if I enter some data 
will I have the same issue with saving? and what can be done? They are 
in calendar terms quite recent so I would like to continue from where I 
"left off" if possible.


What in the world are you talking about? No, log files (I didn't know 
you could open them with GnuCash) are unlikely to show an active 'save' 
icon. Why would you remotely think so? They are LOG files. They 'log' 
activity (and maybe) errors with activity. (I think errors go to the 
Tracefile, but that is another topic) And if you tried to 'save' the 
attached 'gnucash' files and they didn't save, or were greyed out, that 
makes sense if you were logged in as 'Barry Mahon' but these files were 
'owned' by 'administrato'.


STOP trying to open files and save them. STOP. If that is what you keep 
doing, you are seriously making a MESS.


I advised you weeks ago to slow down. I repeat that advice.

STOP. SLOW DOWN.

Do *NOT* just 'Do Something'. That is a terrible approach if you don't 
know exactly what it is you are doing.


-
The next request is to send a screenshot, while viewing the Windows 
Explorer, when viewing the folder where your Gnucash file resides.


Does that sound complicated? If so, say so, and myself or someone else 
will simplify this process.


Regards,
Adrien

p.s — Barry, I know some of the above sentences may seem harsh. I'm 
doing my best to help you as is everyone else here. You *really* have to 
meet myself and everyone else here at least half-way. You've made a big 
stride in attaching an image vs. copy/pasting one. Keep that momentum up 
and we'll have you solving your conundrum in a jiffy. But you have to 
keep that momentum up...


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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

[Adrien Monteleone]

I specifically asked that question, either higher up in this thread, or 
in another related thread. (the very fact there are multiple threads on 
this subject, at least 5 by my current count, is another topic of 
discussion entirely)


Good to know David that you managed to discern as much.

Barry, please respond and confirm, but specifically, don't just confirm 
if you use a Gmail interface (it appears some times that your e-mail 
origination is *not* Gmail) but confirm what APP you use to access and 
send e-mail. That is: do you log into an e-mail website, or do you have 
a separate 'Mail' application you use. And in each case, WHAT 
specifically do you use. (that is, what is the EXACT URL of the website 
you use to access e-mail, or what is the actual name of the e-mail app 
you use if not web-based)


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/27/23 2:17 PM, David Carlson wrote:

Ken,

I checked one of Barry's messages and found that it was fent from a gmail
server, so I assumed that he is using Gmail.


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Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files

[Adrien Monteleone]

You do not need to do anything with the gnucash files to send a screenshot.

We DO NOT need you to send the actual gnucash files.

You can't copy/paste images here. They are removed.

You have to ATTACH the screenshots.

What mail application are you using to access this list?

Regards,
Adrien

On 8/27/23 5:50 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:
Yes, I am aware of that, but, for reasons I don't know, I have been 
unable to a) select a list of GNU files and then rename them and b) copy 
and paste as an alternative.


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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

[Adrien Monteleone]

On 8/27/23 5:41 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:

Sorry for any ignorance, but logged in to what or where?


When you log into Windows on your computer.

From what you've provided so far, you have 2 users on that computer:

1. 'administrato'
2. 'Barry Mahon'

You've indicated that at least one of your GnuCash files you tried to 
use was saved in the Documents folder of the 'administrato' user.


I get a splash 
screen with Mahon Finbar (my 'official,as on cheques) name on my 
(Lenovo) PC and a password.


If you are logging into your computer as 'Barry Mahon' (you may have 
used your formal name for the login screen at some point) and you are 
trying to work in a file saved under the 'administrato' user, then THAT 
is why you do not have save permissions. The 'Barry Mahon' user does not 
'own' that file. The 'administrato' user does.


Here is your solution so far:

Step 1
--
You need to move all of those files under the 'administrato' user 
folders to the 'Barry Mahon' user folders



Step 2
--
Make sure you've also set the 'Barry Mahon' user to be the 'owner' of 
all of those files. (that is where the 'Windows permissions' advice from 
others comes in)


Once you do that, you will not get the save error message.


Step 3
--
Then you need to clean up the multiple file problem.

And by 'file' I mean GnuCash data files only. They end in ".gnucash". 
Forget the other files for now.


Can this cleanup be done rather quickly? Possibly. That is up to you. We 
can help, but you really need to figure out how to ATTACH (not 
copy/paste) screenshots to your list replies here so we can see what you 
are working with.




Regards,
Adrien



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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

[Adrien Monteleone]

Barry, once again, you must ATTACH the image to your reply.

You CANNOT copy & paste it into the text.

The mailing list software only allows ATTACHMENTS.

Regards,
Adrien

On 8/27/23 6:45 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:
OK, latest, just yesterday, Backblaze producedtwo files in .zip, I think 
I have a jpg.



Is it visible? This tax accounts and returns was 'deleted' a long time 
ago, but was obviously 'alive' in 2023.?


Is this where the problem originated??

Is there any solution from here?


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Re: [GNC] Ajuda na Tradução da Documentação para Português Brasil

[Adrien Monteleone]

Marcondes,

Há uma lista de usuários brasileiros que pode ser mais útil para você:

https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-br

"There is a Brazilian user list that might be more useful to you."

"--Translated with DuckDuckGo"

Regards,
Adrien

On 8/26/23 6:46 PM, Marcondes Araújo wrote:

Prezados, boa noite!

Me disponibilizo em ajudar na tradução da pt-BR. Percebi que está em pt-PT.

Atenciosamente,

Marcondes


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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

[Adrien Monteleone]

When you open that file (or any file) located in the 'administrato' 
users' documents, are you logged in as the 'Barry' user?


If so, THAT is why you do not have permission to save.

Before we go any further, let's clear up that one question.

Regards,
Adrien

On 8/26/23 11:01 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:

I'd say you are almost certainly right, Adrian, but.

There I was, sailing along at my usual boring, routine, data entry to 
gnucash, as I have done since 2019.


On entering a transaction I got the message I have copied several times, 
that I don't have rights or space to save the transaction, never saw it 
before.


Put a question on here and a long series of q&a ensued.

I just needed a simple a - what is the meaning of the message? can I 'go 
back' to eliminate it? can I delete the entry? can I close down gnucash 
and restart with a new transaction, etc.


Things like you have two users on the same files, was news to me.

As time went by and the q&a got more complicated I lost the sequence of 
where we were, plus issues with trying to send page images.


Finally, I found myself with a 2022 gnucash file, and nothing else, in 
my administrato folder. BUT, whenever I tried to save that file, just so 
I could get on with my accounts, I got the same 'you need rights' message.


A long way around, but no solution.

The help and advice I have had is terrific, but increasingly confusing. 
I wouldn't say I am an expert in accounting, I have a long history in 
IT, but not specifically in GNU.


The one thing that has created the confusion for me is the bewildering 
array of files associated with my, in my mind, simple, accounting needs. 
I was not, and still am not familiar with the numerous files on the same 
date and time, what is the difference between 'backups' 'logs' and the 
last file I was working on. I appreciate the need to have security in an 
accounting software, but not the range of files.


Longwinded? yes.

Can I recover my situation in time for my tax return date of mid 
November? I think I should delete everything and reload gnucash anew, 
create 2022 and 2023 from my paper files and send the result for 2022 to 
the taxman, (or woman in these liberated days)??


For those who get long strings of posts on the same topic, sorry for 
boring you.


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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

[Adrien Monteleone]

Dimes to Dollars the permissions issue was that Barry was accessing the 
file as one user (Barry Mahon) but it was saved in the tree of another. 
(administrato)


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/25/23 6:30 PM, Maf. King wrote:

I've just had a thought on a possible reason the original file could not be
saved.  I may be barking up the wrong tree.

Does Win have a maximum length for a filename?

If Barry (OP) has been repeatedly opening and working on backups and backups
of backups etc.., is it possible that repeated time-stamps have hit some sort
of string-length limit (either in Win, GC, Gnome-libs or whatever layer)??

Last time I was actively using MS for anything regularly, the filename length
limit was 8+3 ... so I'll defer to pretty much anyone's opinion on this!


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Re: [GNC] I'm moving to a new email address

[Adrien Monteleone]

It's been a while since I changed mine, but I don't think you have to 
unsubscribe & resubscribe. I think you can simply change the subscribed 
address from your mailman preferences.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/23/23 7:17 PM, prl wrote:
I will be unsubscribing this email address from Gnucash Users and 
re-subscribing as

Peter Lamb 


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Re: [GNC] What report shows all amounts owed in one receivables account?

[Adrien Monteleone]

There was a bug with some reports showing up blank in some cases on an 
older version, but I don't recall the specific version or cause.


If you can, I'd recommend upgrading to the most recent release, 5.3, and 
report back the result.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/22/23 5:44 AM, Adam Mackler via gnucash-user wrote:

Thank you for the response Adrien and Murugan.  Unfortunately what you suggest is failing 
for me.  The "Customer Report" generates only a blank tab.  I selected the 
report directly from Reports → Business → Customer Report.

After getting the blank tab I clicked on "Options", then on the "General" tab clicked the "Select..." button next to the 
"Customer" label, searched for the customer (the only customer I have) and then "Select" after finding the customer which takes me back to 
the Customer Report Options with the customer name now showing in the field between the "Customer" label on the left and the "Select..." 
button on the right.  Then I click "Apply" and nothing changes.  I still have a blank tab for the Customer Report.

I tried changing the start date from "Start of accounting period" to a date earlier than 
the first invoice.  Still the "Customer Report" tab is blank.

I only accessed the Customer Report directly from the "Reports" menu.  The 
alternative method you describe Adrien is impossible for me (clicking a link in the 
Receivable Aging report) because the Receivable Aging report is blank also.

I am using GnuCash version 4.4.  What else can I check to find what I am doing 
wrong?


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Re: [GNC] What report shows all amounts owed in one receivables account?

[Adrien Monteleone]

You want the Customer Report.

Note, you can run it directly and set the customer in Options > General, 
or you can click the total amount owed for that Customer in the 
Receivable Aging Report. (it is a clickable link)


Also, note the Customer Report has Options > Display Columns > 
Transaction Links where you can show which payments applied to which 
invoices and vice versa. (there is a Simple and Detailed version of this 
info)


The aging information is for the entire account at the bottom. I don't 
know of a report that will show aging per invoice. And coming from using 
software in several other businesses, that info is very rare to find in 
a report. AR is usually handled per-account rather than per-invoice at 
least for tracking purposes with the general principles of:


1. Payments are always applied to an account before new charges on the 
same day.
2. Payments apply to the oldest outstanding invoice unless otherwise 
requested.


Of course, you may be required to operate differently.

Regards,
Adrien

On 8/20/23 10:05 AM, Adam Mackler via gnucash-user wrote:

Hi, sorry if this is a basic question, but I have not figured it out from the 
documentation.

How do I generate a report that shows all amounts owed as recorded in a given 
receivables account, itemized by invoice, showing the amount remaining due for 
each invoice and the amount of time past the due date for each invoice?

I tried Reports → Account Report from the register of the receivables account, but I got 
a blank tab with the header "Receivable Aging." The title sounds correct but 
the blank tab is not.

I also tried Reports → Receivable Aging which did the same thing.

I have multiple open invoices recorded in that receivables account, and I want 
to give the customer an account statement showing what he owes and how much is 
for which invoice (some invoices are partially paid). How can I generate such a 
report?


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Re: [GNC] Need advice I use Quickbooks and only for personal use. All I do is bank accounts entries & credit cards, just use P&L & Balance Sheet reports

[Adrien Monteleone]

Brad,

Does Square have a CSV (or Excel) export option?

It wouldn't be 'integration' but you should be able to get the data out 
of Square and into GnuCash that way.


Part of that process could perhaps be somewhat automated, though likely 
not all of it.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/17/23 4:43 AM, Brad Morrison wrote:

Hi Michael/all,

It does not appear that Square lists a GnuCash app as an option - 
https://squareup.com/us/en/app-marketplace Square also doesn't have Odoo 
(https://www.odoo.com/) listed as an app option.


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Re: [GNC] Gnu cash Android app and sync

[Adrien Monteleone]

If that app has the ability to auto-export, then you might be able to 
set up some sort of script or shortcut to send that to your desktop, and 
then set up some sort of folder-watcher to trigger an import via 
gnucash-cli, but really, that seems like a lot of work for little 
benefit. Of course, some folks just like to fiddle and solve problems 
for their own sake.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/17/23 4:21 AM, Paras Desai wrote:

Dear all thanks for your kind response. As it turn out to be an unanimous 
opinion that Android app is not worth, from all of your collective experience, 
i am not going to reinvent the wheel .

At present, i am using a mobile expense posting simple app, which I use to 
record day to day transaction, which almost mimic my chart of account in GC.
MY only objective was to check if auto sync was possible


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Re: [GNC] GNU Cash for Android

[Adrien Monteleone]

Neither are connected with this official project.

As I understand it, neither is current, and have not kept pace with 
GnuCash development. Therefore, compatibility and usability are your 
mystery to discover on your own.


People use GnuCash via 'cloud' storage, but be warned only *one* user 
should be accessing the file at any one time. The storage service itself 
may present problems. Do a list search for Google Drive here to see what 
folks have encountered.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/16/23 1:01 PM, Paras Desai wrote:


I looked for Android fork for GC and was presented with two apps
1. GNU Cash
2. GNU cash mobile.

I think they are independent and not connected with GC ORG.

However, I just wish to understand if I use any of the two  android app just 
for basic day to expense posting, sync with say.. gdrive. And on desktop, if I 
access the file from gdrive folder (synced), then my account stays in sync. Is 
this possible with kind of GNU cash file structure.?


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Re: [GNC] About auto-completion

[Adrien Monteleone]

Stan, the old method of typing separators still exists.

Regards,
Adrien

On 8/14/23 6:26 PM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:

On 2023-08-14 16:19, David Carlson wrote:

I wish to support the 'search throughout' method.  I admit that it took
me several seconds to get used to it but it reduces the size of the
short list of partial matches very quickly until I can pick the winner
very easily.  Since I am now expecting it I don't have to type several
introductory characters before typing the real meaty characters of my
search.


Thanks for posting, David. I was blinkered by what I was used to, but I
think you're right, it's just a matter of training myself to type
something unique from the interior when starting at the beginning would
come up with the account I didn't want.

All my accounts payable begin with "AP ", and all my accounts receivable
with "AR ". Maybe I should move those to the end of the account names.
I'll think on that for a while.


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Re: [GNC] how to search for transactions with new line character in description?

[Adrien Monteleone]

Use the Regex option.

Regards,
Adrien

On 8/14/23 11:42 AM, Lipp F. wrote:

When doing paste into a transaction description field, special characters
are stored "as is". I need to find a way to delete all these special
characters.

Can you guys recommend a proper way? Thanks.


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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Adrien Monteleone]

Barry, we don't need your actual files. That's not going to help much 
anyway. The only thing requested was a screenshot of your file manager 
window showing the list of files, including their names, creation dates, 
and modified dates. But if that list is several scrolling windows long, 
then the better option is to export the list into a txt file and send 
that (or copy/paste it into a reply). The command to do so was provided 
several replies back.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/13/23 1:41 PM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:
Apropos, the whole issue ofthehistory of the GNU files, I have been 
having a lot of problems trying to get the into a fo that can be senton 
here here. There are so many files with very small differences it seems 
to "confuse" cutting and pasting.


Could I suggest I try saving individually GNU files from the period 
before 30.7.2023, which is when the issue of not being able to save the 
files started, as .txt files and sent them over?


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Re: [GNC] Consolidation of family member accounts

[Adrien Monteleone]

In that case, you would probably be better served with two books, one 
for yourself and your wife.


In each of those books, you'd have some sort of 'family assets' account 
as a source of funds, that each of you might independently add money to 
before spending it. Either of you could then run reports on money spent 
from that family account. (an alternative would be to maintain a 3rd 
joint book.)


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/13/23 12:45 PM, Paras Desai wrote:

Thanks for your reply

The question arises because;

My wife and I maintain separate accounts. She has her own income and tax 
filing. So we need to maintain accounts independent of each other.

But at the same time, we wish to maintain family level account which generally 
gives us idea about

Total Family income, total family expense and total family investment.

This is the same scenario as two independent legal companies wherein one is a 
parent company and another is subsidiary company. Both legal entity has to 
maintain their own accounts/ books for their respective tax filing and legal 
compliances but have to report consolidated financial statement at group level.

Hope I am able to explain the scenario unambiguously


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Re: [GNC] Consolidation of family member accounts

[Adrien Monteleone]

This is the same case as reimbursement tracking. (covered in the Wiki - 
Using GnuCash, it might also be in the Tutorial & Concepts Guide)


I would simply create two asset accounts, one for your wife and your son 
each.


When you give them money, you would credit your bank/cash-on-hand 
account, and debit their 'reimbursement' account.


Do the reverse if they return any money to you.

When they spend those funds and you want to record the expense, simply 
do so through the reimbursement account as the source of funds and split 
against normal expense accounts as if you had made the purchase.


If they never return any money to you, and/or if they have access to 
spend out of say a checking account directly with an 'allowance limit' 
then you can make those as sub-accounts of the Bank account.


If you need some other level of tracking who spent on what, tag your 
transactions in some way in the Description, Notes, Memo, etc. Then you 
can run a Transaction Report filtered to transactions matching the 
desired 'tag'.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/13/23 12:04 PM, Paras Desai wrote:

Hello sirs,

1. I am adopting GNC for my family members (me, wife and son)
2. There are lots of transfer takes place between family members. For example, 
I transfer an amount to wife account , for her expense or investment. Same for 
son.
3. At present I can adopt two approach for such transfer
Either I can show transferred amount as gift expense or create account 
receivable in name of family member.
4. Neither is a good practice, as at family level, it will erroneously show 
duplicate expenses (mine as gift to wife and, wife's actual expenses with 
gifted fund)

So my question is

Is there a way in GNC to consolidate family members account to arrive at net 
worth of entire family?

When we do consolidation of accounts, we eliminate inter transaction between 
members (as we do between a parent and subsidiary company in business scenario)

I will be happy to explore the way, if there is any way I can achieve this in 
GNC


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Re: [GNC] Sort Transactions in Alphabetical Order, For Entering Expense Category (Account)

[Adrien Monteleone]

When you do the import, you get to assign the existing expense accounts. 
GnuCash won't create new accounts if you do this.


Note, do not try to import hundreds or thousands of transactions in one 
go. The matcher needs to be trained, so it is advisable to usually 
import a month at a time, reconcile, then proceed. As you train the 
matcher it will save you time having to assign accounts in subsequent 
imports.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/13/23 9:13 AM, Tom Balazs wrote:

I'm importing a large number of transactions into GnuCash. I want to speed
up entering the expense category (account) of transactions, especially for
credit card transactions. (I know these are called accounts in GnuCash, but
I mean "account" like "auto expenses", and "home repair expenses", not
"account" like "Credit Card #1", and "Checking Account #1".)

There are two ways I could do that:
 1. Create a column for account in the CSV file (exported from the
bank's site), sort by payee name and enter account (expense category).
Important, I need this to conform to the expense categories I created in
GnuCash; I don't want GnuCash to automatically create new expense
categories with the expense. That could lead to small typos creating new
categories; e.g. "auto repair" and "auto rpeair".
 2. Or I want to import all the transactions, and then in GnuCash sort
by payee name, and then add expense category to 10-15 transactions at a
time.

How can I do that?


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Re: [GNC] Will GNU CASH work on a Chromebook

[Adrien Monteleone]

How did I forget?

https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2018-October/080544.html

It seems someone has at least as of GnuCash 3.2 via Flatpak on ChromeOS.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/10/23 11:36 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
There are ways to run linux apps in ChromeOS. I'm not sure if anyone has 
attempted such with GnuCash.


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Re: [GNC] Will GNU CASH work on a Chromebook

[Adrien Monteleone]

There are ways to run linux apps in ChromeOS. I'm not sure if anyone has 
attempted such with GnuCash.


Regards,
Adrien

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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Adrien Monteleone]

Barry,

Be sure you aren't confusing the two users on your system! (one is 
"Barry Mahon" and the other is "administrato")


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/10/23 2:59 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:
OH, I now find the Tax Account folder has been deleted. I have no 
recollection, but it must have happened.


I'll go through the backup files on Backblaze.

Sorry, as I said, I have no recollection

Barry

On 07/08/2023 23:05, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Barry,

At one point you advised you had GnuCash files in:

C:\Users\Barry Mahon\Documents\Tax accounts and returns\

now, you are saying it is:

C:\users\administrato\documents

These are 2 separate locations and two separate 'users' on this machine.

Where do you *think* your GnuCash file is supposed to be? (full 
qualified path please)


And what do you *think* its file name is supposed to be? (just the 
file name here is fine)


And for completeness, can you trigger that 'cannot write to file' 
warning that you originally reported, and send us a screenshot?


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Re: [GNC] v5.3 split transaction auto completion not working

[Adrien Monteleone]

I and a few other folks have noted this, and my personal opinion is 
'bug' but I haven't filed it yet till I can narrow it down. (maybe 
someone else has though)


It *does* autofill after you enter a new transaction in 5.3. It is just 
that it seems to have amnesia for all transactions (save for the 
description) entered before 5.3.


Note - ALL transactions are 'split' between at least 2 accounts, though 
GnuCash doesn't show them as 'split' transactions unless they involve 3 
or more accounts. (really, 3 or more 'splits' which could technically 
still involve only 2 accounts)


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/8/23 8:18 PM, Martin Neumann wrote:

Hello,
I just installed v5.3 and encounter a problem with split transactions.
In the past on split transaction entries in the past prior used entries 
were auto completed, which now does not anymore happen.
I used this a lot to call up the correct account for the transaction 
based on it's description.


On normal "non splitted" transaction entries the autocomplete works as 
documented.


Am I doing something wrong?
Is this feature removed?
Is it a "bug"?


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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Adrien Monteleone]

Yeah, I'm suspecting the "can't write to file" message is when trying to 
save the file back to its original location which is under a different 
user than the one who's desktop is front and center at that moment.


But we'll need that error message screenshot to confirm.

And then there is the obvious backup file(s) mess to clean up. And as 
you note, that will likely involve copying files from one user to 
another and correcting their permissions accordingly. (before any 
cleanup within GnuCash itself!)


I'm not versed on such, but I'm sure someone here is.

Regards,
Adrien


p.s. — I used to use Gmail for this list till I discovered the same 
problem so I switched to an account provided by my ISP and it has been a 
few years with no issues. (though I now use the list via gmane. And that 
reminds me, I'm long overdue for a wiki write up for gmane I promised!)


On 8/7/23 4:23 PM, David Carlson wrote:

Wow.  I just went to the archives of this list and discovered that not all
the messages were appearing in my Gmail folder.  Specifically there was a
reply to my first message about providing a path/filename where you
provided

C:\users\administrato\documents is where the only one which "fits" i.e.
where GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash is. There are literally hundreds of others

to which Adrien has now responded.  He correctly suggests that is a major
part of your problem, and begins to work on a solution. For some reason
that message from you is not in my Gmail, but that is a completely
different problem that is for another place.

Presumably administrato is your root user name with different rights than
your ordinary Barry Mahon user name.  Part of the untangling will be to
aggregate everything under one user name, preferably without root rights.
I am not qualified to help you with that.





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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Adrien Monteleone]

Barry,

At one point you advised you had GnuCash files in:

C:\Users\Barry Mahon\Documents\Tax accounts and returns\

now, you are saying it is:

C:\users\administrato\documents

These are 2 separate locations and two separate 'users' on this machine.

Where do you *think* your GnuCash file is supposed to be? (full 
qualified path please)


And what do you *think* its file name is supposed to be? (just the file 
name here is fine)


And for completeness, can you trigger that 'cannot write to file' 
warning that you originally reported, and send us a screenshot?


Thanks.

Regards,
Adrien

On 8/7/23 10:56 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:
 is where the only one which "fits" i.e. 
where GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash is. There are literally hundreds of others


On 07/08/2023 17:33, David Carlson wrote:

What is the complete path/filename for the files?


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