Re: Large Page Datasets APAR OA20749

2008-03-04 Thread Shane
On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 02:47 -0500, Jim Mulder wrote:
 
  Is there any information about the solution? E.g. how many PAV's does
  ASM reseve for the large pgds? 1 per nn slots?
 
   Nothing has changed with regard to ASM's use of PAV. 

I had presumed this to be the case.
I wonder if customers will now be inclined to use big (as we currently
know it) volumes solely for one page dataset. Rather than perhaps having
separate datasets (each eligible for PAV exposures) from different
systems on a large (logical) volume. Means a lot less page datasets,
with significantly less PAV exposure count.
Let's hope they really don't do any paging.

M - maybe that old seldom ending channel program wasn't such a bad
idea after all.

Shane ...

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Re: Large Page Datasets APAR OA20749

2008-03-04 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 02:47 -0500, Jim Mulder wrote:
  
   Is there any information about the solution? E.g. how many PAV's
does
   ASM reseve for the large pgds? 1 per nn slots?
  
Nothing has changed with regard to ASM's use of PAV. 
 
 I had presumed this to be the case.
 I wonder if customers will now be inclined to use big (as we
currently
 know it) volumes solely for one page dataset. Rather than perhaps
having
 separate datasets (each eligible for PAV exposures) from different
 systems on a large (logical) volume. Means a lot less page datasets,
 with significantly less PAV exposure count.

 Let's hope they really don't do any paging.


I don't suppose many installations will be really paging (constantly)
these days. Paging will be more concentrated to spikes and at those
(seldom) moments you really need the PAV exposures badly. With larger
memory sizes, dumps will be larger, causing large page-out bursts and
more subsequent page-ins. You don't want those page-ins to perform badly
in peak time and therefor you want a certain number of PAV exposures on
your total page space.


 
 M - maybe that old seldom ending channel program wasn't such a bad
 idea after all.
 

A joke of course? For the SECP you needed to decicate a volume to 1
pgds. If you do that now, you have 2 PAV exposures, say 2 SECP's per
pgds. If you don't dedicate volumes to 1 pgds, you now have better
performance too than in the SECP situation.

Kees.

 Shane ...
 
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Re: Large Page Datasets APAR OA20749

2008-03-04 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Jim Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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om...
 IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on
03/03/2008 
 02:45:51 AM:
 
  Knutson, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].
  .
   Hi,
  
   An interesting APAR noted in SHARE session 2815 Real Storage
Manager's
  -
   Functional Evolution for Scalability and Performance. OA20749 is
still
   open.
  
   Large Page Datasets APAR OA20749
  
   * OA20749 for z/OS V1.8 and V1.9 will remove the 4G limit for
paging
   datasets - The maximum size for a paging dataset with APAR OA20749
is
   44.9G (which is about 64K cylinders)
  
   * The maximum number of cylinders that are supported for a paging
   dataset is 65,520 (64K cylinders).
  
   * Now on a 3390 we have 180 slots/cyl this gives us a total of
   11.793,600 slots which corresponds to a paging dataset size of
44.9G
  
   Best Regards,
  
   Sam Knutson, GEICO
  
  Is there any information about the solution? E.g. how many PAV's
does
  ASM reseve for the large pgds? 1 per nn slots?
 
   Nothing has changed with regard to ASM's use of PAV. 
 
 Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

Thanks Jim,

This could be a consideration when deciding new pgds sizes.

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Re: Large Page Datasets APAR OA20749

2008-03-04 Thread Shane
On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 09:25 +0100, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote:

 If you don't dedicate volumes to 1 pgds, you now have better
 performance too than in the SECP situation.

No argument there Kees.
But what if customers *do* go back to single (*really* big) page
datasets per volume ???.
And then take a decent SAP/DB2 dump  

Could get ugly.

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Re: ISMF split second question

2008-03-04 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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t...
 Hello,
 I reorganized my VIO Storage Groups, deleted the old SGs, added 2 new
 SGs and changed the ACS SG routine to route VIO datasets to the new
VIO
 SGs.
 The question is: what happens when I activate the new configuration.
Is
 it possible that the new ACS routines are activated a few milliseconds
 before the new SG definitions or visa versa? If so, the ACS routine
can
 route datasets to the old SGs, which are already invalidated, or route
 them to the new SGs, which have not been activated yet. Or is this
fully
 synchronized and safe to do?
 
 Thanks,

 Kees.


I did not get any answers to the above question but discovered something
interesting this morning with regard to my manipulations of the VIO SGs.
Btw. the title should read SMS, not ISMF.

One system was IPLd for the first time since the new VIO SGs were
activated and the old ones removed. At least one task that was running
since the last IPL of the system, ran into a JCL error when brought
down, because its last steps used VIO datasets and referred the old,
removed VIO SGs. Apparantly the SG name is already deciced when the
job/stc starts.

The conclusion is that it is dangerous to remove (VIO) SGs and possibly
other SMS constructs during the life of the IPL of the systems in the
SMS configuration. Long running task may have been assigned those
constructs and will then request them weeks or months later when the
relevant steps execute.

Hope this info is useful for some of you.

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Re: Large Page Datasets APAR OA20749

2008-03-04 Thread Barbara Nitz
I wonder if customers will now be inclined to use big (as we currently
know it) volumes solely for one page dataset. Rather than perhaps having
separate datasets (each eligible for PAV exposures) from different
systems on a large (logical) volume. Means a lot less page datasets,
with significantly less PAV exposure count.

And here I thought that the large volumes go very well with HiperPAV, all 
hardware implemented, no WLM participation. Haven't looked into the software 
prereq's; getting our EMCs to 'fully support' HiperPAV means that the DASD farm 
has to be completely offline, ergo all systems have to come down. Plus the full 
support will only be available after April. So the earliest anyone will even 
look at this is when we get new boxes. Might be a few years.

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Re: Large Page Datasets APAR OA20749

2008-03-04 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 09:25 +0100, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote:
 
  If you don't dedicate volumes to 1 pgds, you now have better
  performance too than in the SECP situation.
 
 No argument there Kees.
 But what if customers *do* go back to single (*really* big) page
 datasets per volume ???.
 And then take a decent SAP/DB2 dump  
 
 Could get ugly.
 
 Shane ...

Sure, therefor my first question was: what has been changed about
reserved PAVs per pgds. I would suggest 1 PAV exposure per nn GB pgds.

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Re: Large Page Datasets APAR OA20749

2008-03-04 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 I wonder if customers will now be inclined to use big (as we
currently
 know it) volumes solely for one page dataset. Rather than perhaps
having
 separate datasets (each eligible for PAV exposures) from different
 systems on a large (logical) volume. Means a lot less page datasets,
 with significantly less PAV exposure count.
 
 And here I thought that the large volumes go very well with HiperPAV,
all hardware implemented, no WLM participation. Haven't looked into the
software prereq's; getting our EMCs to 'fully support' HiperPAV means
that the DASD farm has to be completely offline, ergo all systems have
to come down. Plus the full support will only be available after April.
So the earliest anyone will even look at this is when we get new boxes.
Might be a few years.
 
 Regards, Barbara

Barbara,

I am not sure who Hiperpavs react on ASM I/O, but currently ASM
*reserves* PAV exposures with WLM, so ASM will never be bothered by PAV
management issues, which could result in undesired bad ASM performance.

Kees.
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Re: Abend S013 using ICHDSM00 procedure

2008-03-04 Thread Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
Carlos,

Something like the following is all you should need in the way JCL.

//jobname  JOB (account),'username',CLASS=x,MSGCLASS=x
//STEP0001 EXEC PGM=ICHDSM00
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSUT2   DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD  *
  FUNCTION option
/*
//

If the program ICHDSM00 is protected by a RACF profile in the PROGRAM class,
you will need EXECUTE or greater access permission to the profile to execute
it. Otherwise, you will need the RACF AUDITOR attribute. Lastly, if the
FACILITY class resource ICHDSM00.SYSCAT is protected by a profile, you will
need at least READ access to it to get user catalog information associated
with FUNCTION SYSCAT (or ALL). You do not need any access permissions
whatsoever to the RACF database.

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-Original Message-
Date:Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:39:42 -0600
From:Carlos Cordero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Abend S013 using ICHDSM00 procedure

Hi everybody!!

Please, somebody can help me with this:  i tried to use the ICHDSM00 program
using SYS1.BRODCAST library, then using a DSMON sentences to get RACF
report.

so, i get an abend S013 when jcl fails; what are the main reason for this
abend?

Tanks.

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Re: Rexx - TRAP errors / Exception handling ?

2008-03-04 Thread Zaromil Tisler
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:29:43 -0500, Arthur T.  wrote:

- snip -
  This may not be the best way to validate.  Check out
the results of the following, which is a very slightly
modified version of my previous example.  At least on my PC
with Regina REXX, it gives unexpected results.

signal on syntax
j = 1
ChkDate:
do i = j to 15
   tstDate = '31/' || right(i,2,0) || '/08'
   valDate = DATE('E',tstDate,'E')
   say valdate 'is valid'
end
exit 0
syntax:
say tstDate 'is not valid'
j = i + 1
signal on syntax
signal ChkDate

  Would someone please verify if z/OS (or any other)
REXX yields not valid for any month numbers other than 2,
13, 14, or 15?  Those are the only ones invalid in my test.
- snip -

Executing your REXX in z/OS 01.08.00:


 31/02/08 is not valid
 31/04/08 is not valid
 31/06/08 is not valid
 31/09/08 is not valid
 31/11/08 is not valid
 31/13/08 is not valid
 31/14/08 is not valid
 31/15/08 is not valid


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page data sets and HiperPAV (was: Large Page Datasets APAR OA20749)

2008-03-04 Thread Barbara Nitz
Kees,

I am not sure who Hiperpavs react on ASM I/O, but currently ASM
*reserves* PAV exposures with WLM, so ASM will never be bothered by PAV
management issues, which could result in undesired bad ASM performance.

My recollection of HiperPAV presentations is fuzzy, but as far as I remember, 
it is done completely in hardware, and the 'alias' is assigned for exactly one 
I/O operation, in hardware. So there is no 'reservation' of aliases needed 
anymore, they get shifted around in hardware depending on load to a volume. I 
have forgotten if several UCBs are needed in MVS, but I don't think so. I 
remember HiperPAV being presented as the best thing since sliced bread! :-)

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Re: Large Page Datasets APAR OA20749

2008-03-04 Thread Martin Packer
I've asked for clarification on HyperPAVs and ASM. I'll post the gist of 
the response when I get it.

What's not clear is whether the I/O patterns warrant it, never mind 
whether it's supported.

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Re: Large Page Datasets APAR OA20749

2008-03-04 Thread Martin Packer
How to configure page data sets is an interesting question. I've just been 
involved in a customer situation where significant paging was a problem. 
Unfortunately it's still too fresh to really talk about it. But I can see 
this new function is a good excuse to blog about paging. And I already 
have a foil in Memory Matters on the importance of paging subsystem 
design. The customer situation and this APAR mean, I think, another foil 
or two. At a time when I need FEWER foils.

It's funny how fast things move between (4-monthly) updatings of 
presentations. In a good sort of way. :-)

I think the assumption that paging performance rarely matters is a poor 
one. Even if true there's a heck of a difference between dumping into a 
poorly-configured paging subsystem and into a good one. (Far better still 
to dump into memory, though I realise that's probably unaffordable for 
many.)

And now I have some questions:

Do any disk controllers cache paging activity? For many years the answer 
was an unequivocal no. This matters because that might drive you to 
more, smaller, page data sets.
Is it still the case that the contiguous slot algorithm degrades above, 
say, 30%? I would think so, though I now measure the number of pages 
written per I/O and it seems to be around 5 - 10 in the 1.7 era.

Maybe I should attempt to prime my developerWorks space with a discussion 
on paging and invite people to contribute.

Martin

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Re: page data sets and HiperPAV (was: Large Page Datasets APAR OA20749)

2008-03-04 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Kees,
 
 I am not sure who Hiperpavs react on ASM I/O, but currently ASM
 *reserves* PAV exposures with WLM, so ASM will never be bothered by
PAV
 management issues, which could result in undesired bad ASM
performance.
 
 My recollection of HiperPAV presentations is fuzzy, but as far as I
remember, it is done completely in hardware, and the 'alias' is assigned
for exactly one I/O operation, in hardware. So there is no 'reservation'
of aliases needed anymore, they get shifted around in hardware depending
on load to a volume. I have forgotten if several UCBs are needed in MVS,
but I don't think so. I remember HiperPAV being presented as the best
thing since sliced bread! :-)
 
 Regards, Barbara

Yes, as I understood too, it is fully managed by the hardware, not by
WLM. So this means that ASM may have to compete for exposures.
Possibly/hopefully ASM's I/O priority will give it the needed advantage.
Otherwise Shane's remark about SECP may be not the joke it seemed at
first glance.

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SHARE Meeting (Was: SHARE no handouts(?))

2008-03-04 Thread John P Kalinich
Ted MacNeil of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
wrote on 03/03/2008 05:01:58 PM:

 I have put a filter on my e-mail to no longer receive these posts
 regarding hand-outs.

 Rather than b*tching at IBM-Main, could you please take your
 complaints to somebody (eg: SHARE) who might actually care.

 And, then we could get back to mainframe topics.

 (A concerned IBM-Main poster, or [maybe] one unconcerned [vis-à-vis]
 with this topic -- go hig a tree!)

I agree with Ted.  Let's discuss the content of the SHARE meeting.

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Re: FICON CTC

2008-03-04 Thread Arthur Gutowski
CUADD on the control unit must match the LPAR you want to talk *TO* with 
the CTC's on that CU.  Also, the CTC devices on that CU should be defined to 
the OS config for the LPAR's you will talk *FROM*.  I always need a pad of 
paper when I connect CTC's...

There's a z9/z990/z900 redbook, the z900 doc ID is SB10-7034-01, ESCON 
and FICON CTC Reference.  Don't know the updated book is for z990, z9, z10.

It's been a while since we've had to go through this en masse, but if you send 
me a note offline, I can perhaps send you some HCD screen shots (easier than 
looking at IOCP statements, IMHO).

HTH
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Re: page data sets and HiperPAV (was: Large Page Datasets APAR OA20749)

2008-03-04 Thread Zaromil Tisler
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:31:01 +0100, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM  wrote:

- snip -
Yes, as I understood too, it is fully managed by the hardware, not by
WLM. So this means that ASM may have to compete for exposures.
Possibly/hopefully ASM's I/O priority will give it the needed advantage.
Otherwise Shane's remark about SECP may be not the joke it seemed at
first glance.
- snip -

Last information I have found about status of ASM and HyperPAV was in the 
thread PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size, mail from 13 Sep 2007:

- snip -
 But note that ASM only supports starting 2 I/Os to a page data set
 when there are dynamic PAVs (as opposed to static PAVs).  Unless
 something has changed since z/OS 1.3 when this support was introduced.

  That is a very good point, especially because I was going to say
Dynamic PAV and of course HyperPAV, but thought I had better check
the code first.  It turns out that the ASM code which decides whether
to create two sets of I/O control blocks for a page data set was not
updated for HyperPAV (an oversight on our part).  It checks to see 
if you specified WLM PAV when you defined the device in HCD.  Since
WLM doesn't need to manage PAVs when the control unit has been told
to use HyperPAV mode, our intention was that the specification of
WLM PAV in HCD would be irrelevant for HyperPAV devices.  But for
now, it looks like you would want to specify WLM PAV for HyperPAV
paging devices, until we can update the ASM code (probably via an APAR)
to automatically recognize HyperPAV paging devices. 
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Re: z10 LSPR

2008-03-04 Thread William Bishop
When I checked the LSPR ratings the day the z10 was announced I noticed 
that all of the 2094-40x MSU zOS 1.8 ratings were different.  I checked 
the 1.6 ratings and they were what I was expecting.

I even checked the documents for the next couple of days to see if IBM had 
made an error and would correct it.

I see today that they did chance the 1.8 LSPR numbers back to what the 
were for 1.6.

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Re: page data sets and HiperPAV

2008-03-04 Thread Barbara Nitz
Zaromil,

good catch! I don't suppose oa20749 will correct this oversight, too? 

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Re: FICON CTC

2008-03-04 Thread Roger Lowe
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:32:03 -0500, Mark Pace 
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Is a FICON director required to do FICON CTC?   I'm looking through a 
Red
Book and all examples show a FICON director.  I would think, that like 
ESCON
CTC, I could just connect two FICON channels together using the 
appropriate
cable.
snip

Mark,
FWIW..I have found that using HCM to configure CTC's 
(whether they be ESCON or FICON) is much easier.

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Re: page data sets and HiperPAV

2008-03-04 Thread Zaromil Tisler
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:34:03 +0100, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


good catch! I don't suppose oa20749 will correct this oversight, too?

My understanding was that it should be enough to define devices with
   WLMPAV yes
in the HCD. We have this but I don't know how to check if it helps. The aliases 
are surely not fix assigned to page data sets or there is an error in the RMF 
DEV Device Activity display (we have 1.0H in the PAV column for all devices).

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IEFSSNxx change requires IPL?

2008-03-04 Thread Lindy Mayfield
I've been searching for the answer to this in the docs, but obviously
I'm not looking in the right place (yet).

If I add something to IEFSSNxx do I need to IPL?  Or is there a SET or
some other command that will work?

Regards,
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z/OS messages libraries ?

2008-03-04 Thread Francois GUILLEZ
Hi all,
I'd like to have access to z/OS messages libraries in order to get a message
using its code then display both in case of abend (I trap the abend and the
OS does not display anything).
Where and how do I get those messages ?

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Re: IEFSSNxx change requires IPL?

2008-03-04 Thread Mark Jacobs
Lindy Mayfield wrote:
 I've been searching for the answer to this in the docs, but obviously
 I'm not looking in the right place (yet).

 If I add something to IEFSSNxx do I need to IPL?  Or is there a SET or
 some other command that will work?

 Regards,
 Lindy

   
SETSSI command might work.

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Re: IEFSSNxx change requires IPL?

2008-03-04 Thread Lindy Mayfield
That's it, thanks!  I was expecting something like: SET SSN=00 or
something like that.  Doh.

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Lindy Mayfield wrote:
 I've been searching for the answer to this in the docs, but obviously
 I'm not looking in the right place (yet).

 If I add something to IEFSSNxx do I need to IPL?  Or is there a SET or
 some other command that will work?

 Regards,
 Lindy

   
SETSSI command might work.

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Re: IEFSSNxx change requires IPL?

2008-03-04 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
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That's it, thanks!  I was expecting something like: SET SSN=00 or
something like that.  Doh.

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Lindy Mayfield wrote:
 I've been searching for the answer to this in the docs, but obviously 
 I'm not looking in the right place (yet).

 If I add something to IEFSSNxx do I need to IPL?  Or is there a SET or

 some other command that will work?

 Regards,
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SETSSI command might work.

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Re: page data sets and HiperPAV

2008-03-04 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Zaromil Tisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:34:03 +0100, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 good catch! I don't suppose oa20749 will correct this oversight, too?
 
 My understanding was that it should be enough to define devices with
WLMPAV yes
 in the HCD. We have this but I don't know how to check if it helps.


DS QP,,VOL will show the base and alias UCBs.

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Re: IEFSSNxx change requires IPL?

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Re: IBM Tivoli Monitoring (ITM for short) (was: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?)

2008-03-04 Thread Rob Schramm
Haven't they updated to support newer versions of the JRE?  1.6 is being 
rolled out now.  1.5 is pretty much mainstream. 1.4.2 is on the way out.

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Re: IEFSSNxx change requires IPL?

2008-03-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:10:11 +0100, Lindy Mayfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've been searching for the answer to this in the docs, but obviously
I'm not looking in the right place (yet).

If I add something to IEFSSNxx do I need to IPL?  Or is there a SET or
some other command that will work?


See the command:  SETSSI

Note that if the subsystem has an initialization routine, it must support
dynamic add.  If it does not support the dynamic add and has an
an initialization routine, you will have to define it and IPL.   If you just 
need a stub then it shouldn't matter. 

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Re: z/OS messages libraries ?

2008-03-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
Francios, 

What messages are you looking to include for the display?  Products like 
QUICKREF or ABEND AID can do that for you.

AFAIK there is no message library that contains a listing of all z/OS messages 
online for the user to use.  Other than Bookmgr on the mainframe.

Or could you provide more detail on the language you are trapping, how you trap 
it, and what you are not seeing.


Lizette




Hi all,
I'd like to have access to z/OS messages libraries in order to get a message
using its code then display both in case of abend (I trap the abend and the
OS does not display anything).
Where and how do I get those messages ?



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Re: FICON CTC

2008-03-04 Thread Mark Pace
Art -
Thanks,  I finally drew out what I was trying to do, and now it makes more
sense.
It was the CUADD=  the from and to where reversed.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Arthur Gutowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 CUADD on the control unit must match the LPAR you want to talk *TO* with
 the CTC's on that CU.  Also, the CTC devices on that CU should be defined
 to
 the OS config for the LPAR's you will talk *FROM*.  I always need a pad of
 paper when I connect CTC's...

 There's a z9/z990/z900 redbook, the z900 doc ID is SB10-7034-01, ESCON
 and FICON CTC Reference.  Don't know the updated book is for z990, z9,
 z10.

 It's been a while since we've had to go through this en masse, but if you
 send
 me a note offline, I can perhaps send you some HCD screen shots (easier
 than
 looking at IOCP statements, IMHO).

 HTH
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Re: Setting up a service class for DDF

2008-03-04 Thread Diehl, Gary (MVSSupport)
I'm with Ted on this one.

We also started years ago with one or two DDF service classes, and they
quickly became woefully inadequate.  We tried a variety of
configurations, from a 5-level priority system with multi-periods, to
one or two with single periods.  In our environment, the most efficient
and most effective has been to code a HI/MED/LOW setup with three
service classes, each with ONE and ONLY ONE service class period each,
based on a percentile/time goal like 80% complete in 0.500 seconds
that very closely matched our CICS transaction goals in importance and
%/t goal.

We found that as DDF transactions moved from period to period, their
response times dropped dramatically.  Why put it in HI if it's just
going to end up LOW?  Our customers screamed when the systems got busy,
and their transactions started running longer, and began to traverse to
LOW.  So for us, HI means HI, end of story.

We also found, in post processor reports, that multi-period DDF caused
transactions that traversed all periods to use about 5% MORE service
units than when they stayed in one period.  We didn't have the head room
to allow for this kind of inefficiency.

Your mileage may vary.  Try something based on your business goals.
Monitor and tune from there.  %/t goals are great in that they give you
all the facts of what happened in black and white, and are easy to tune
from.

Best luck,

Gary Diehl
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Re: z/OS messages libraries - continued

2008-03-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
Francois,

That is an ISPF Message Skeleton Library.  Therefore you would have vars that 
would not be resolved.  I am not sure that is exactly what you need.  The 
library is setup with message prefixes but not all messages are in this library.

Lizette




Actually I found SYS1.MSGENU library which seems to contain all OS 
messages, only I don't know how to get the message code from a program.
Anybody help me?


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z/OS messages libraries - continued

2008-03-04 Thread Francois Guillez
Actually I found SYS1.MSGENU library which seems to contain all OS 
messages, only I don't know how to get the message code from a program.
Anybody help me?

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Re: z/OS messages libraries - continued

2008-03-04 Thread Francois Guillez
thanks Lizette.
Actually I use CEE callable service to handle abends and it gives me a 
code 32xx so I'd like to get the corresponding message.
example : 3209 Fixed-point divide exception -- this message ??
refer to page 228 in z/OS V1R9.0 Language Environment Programming 
Reference

On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:02:01 -0500, Lizette Koehler 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Francois,

That is an ISPF Message Skeleton Library.  Therefore you would have amp;vars 
that would not be resolved.  I am not sure that is exactly what you need.  
The library is setup with message prefixes but not all messages are in this 
library.

Lizette




Actually I found SYS1.MSGENU library which seems to contain all OS
messages, only I don't know how to get the message code from a program.
Anybody help me?


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SDSF User Manual

2008-03-04 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Does anyone know of an SDSF user manual newer than the OS/390 2.10
version dated June 2000?  The z/OS manuals are title Operation and
Customization.  The 1.8 version contains chapters for batch and REXX but
nothing for the poor fool sitting at the terminal.

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Re: Abend S013 using ICHDSM00 procedure

2008-03-04 Thread Carlos Cordero
I would like to say thanks everybody for your help, now succesfully run my JCL, 
we detect next:  output file had lenght of 80, then changed by a file with 133; 
even still using the brodcast library.
 
 
 
Thanks, Best regards from Mexico.
 
 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 06:05:52 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 
 Abend S013 using ICHDSM00 procedure To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU  Carlos,  
 Something like the following is all you should need in the way JCL.  
 //jobname JOB (account),'username',CLASS=x,MSGCLASS=x //STEP0001 EXEC 
 PGM=ICHDSM00 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUT2 DD SYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD * 
 FUNCTION option /* //  If the program ICHDSM00 is protected by a RACF 
 profile in the PROGRAM class, you will need EXECUTE or greater access 
 permission to the profile to execute it. Otherwise, you will need the RACF 
 AUDITOR attribute. Lastly, if the FACILITY class resource ICHDSM00.SYSCAT is 
 protected by a profile, you will need at least READ access to it to get user 
 catalog information associated with FUNCTION SYSCAT (or ALL). You do not 
 need any access permissions whatsoever to the RACF database.  Regards, 
 Bob  
  
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 procedure  Hi everybody!!  Please, somebody can help me with this: i 
 tried to use the ICHDSM00 program using SYS1.BRODCAST library, then using a 
 DSMON sentences to get RACF report.  so, i get an abend S013 when jcl 
 fails; what are the main reason for this abend?  Tanks.  
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Re: z/OS messages libraries - continued

2008-03-04 Thread Flint, Mike
For LE messages, can't you use CEEMGET to convert a condition token to
text (although not all messages are trapped in this way...)?

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Subject: Re: z/OS messages libraries - continued

thanks Lizette.
Actually I use CEE callable service to handle abends and it gives me a
code 32xx so I'd like to get the corresponding message.
example : 3209 Fixed-point divide exception -- this message ??
refer to page 228 in z/OS V1R9.0 Language Environment Programming
Reference

On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:02:01 -0500, Lizette Koehler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Francois,

That is an ISPF Message Skeleton Library.  Therefore you would have 
amp;vars
that would not be resolved.  I am not sure that is exactly what you
need.  
The library is setup with message prefixes but not all messages are in
this library.

Lizette




Actually I found SYS1.MSGENU library which seems to contain all OS 
messages, only I don't know how to get the message code from a
program.
Anybody help me?


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Re: SDSF User Manual

2008-03-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
I do not know if this will help, but IBM provides a PDF summary card for SDSF

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/sdsf/pdf/sdsfcard.pdf

Lizette




Does anyone know of an SDSF user manual newer than the OS/390 2.10
version dated June 2000?  The z/OS manuals are title Operation and
Customization.  The 1.8 version contains chapters for batch and REXX but
nothing for the poor fool sitting at the terminal.

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GRS RESMIL SETTING

2008-03-04 Thread Anthony Fletcher
We have a GRS environment using XCF (ie not using a CF) with three LPARS
connected. We had changed the RESMIL value to OFF to try and improve
responsiveness. That worked, but the XCFAS address space CPU consumption
went up. We decided to change the RESMIL value to 0 since that does leave
the tuning mechanism working. The manual indicates that RESMIL can be
changed on any LPAR independent of the others. One LPAR was changed, leaving
the other two set to OFF. It looks as if changingthe RESMIL value to 0 in
one LPAR has reduced the CPU consumption in the XCFAS address space in all
LPARS.
Question is: Is that to be expected, or do we need to look for something else?

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Re: SDSF User Manual

2008-03-04 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 07:36:48 -0800, Schwarz, Barry A
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Does anyone know of an SDSF user manual newer than the OS/390 2.10
version dated June 2000?  The z/OS manuals are title Operation and
Customization.  The 1.8 version contains chapters for batch and REXX but
nothing for the poor fool sitting at the terminal.

Why doesn't the user at the terminal simply use the ISPF help facility?  

I'm not sure how many of our products document panel usage in books, vs
making use of the ISPF help functions.

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Re: SDSF User Manual

2008-03-04 Thread Jack Kelly
I have SA22-7670-08 (9/05) on the 1.7 CD. But I still find the only things 
worse than SDSF support and functionality is the documentation. Thank God 
for EJES.


Jack Kelly
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Re: IBM Tivoli Monitoring (ITM for short) (was: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?)

2008-03-04 Thread Kelman, Tom
I know.  However, we started installing the IBM Tivoli products in
October 2006 and the versions IBM sent us were 3.1.  We spent all last
year just getting everything up on all the distributed systems.  We have
a lot of problems and opened many PMRs with IBM.  IBM was on site
several times during the year.  Now our two z/OS system programmers are
working on upgrading from z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.9 so anything to do with
Tivoli is on the back burner.  Maybe one of these days we'll get there. 

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 The OMEGAMON XE 41 level products that GA'ed in Oct 06 (and one in Jan
 07) allow complete summarization and pruning with the TDW.
 
 Kelman, Tom wrote:
  Hmm, I just saw this thread.  We had the old Candle Omegamon
mainframe
  products here for several years before IBM bought them out.  So our
  management got the brilliant idea that we'd expand on that and
install
  the full Tivoli Monitoring suite.  We currently have agents to
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  start using for capacity planning.  However, with the release of
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  we are on the data warehouse processing isn't there yet.  It won't
  summarize and prune the data coming from the z/OS systems so the
detail
  data would keep growing unchecked thereby overrunning the database
in no
  time.  So I'm still using MXG to do capacity planning on z/OS and
that's
  fine with me.  However, once the release of Tivoli gets put in place
  that will do the summarization and pruning I'm afraid I'll be forced
to
  use the data warehouse.  The other stumbling block is that there is
no
  built in facility for producing management reports from the data
  warehouse.  The only way within Tivoli to access the data is via the
  TEP.  To do real management reporting you have to get a reporting
tool
  such as BIRT that will access a DB2 or Oracle database (the two
formats
  used by the Tivoli Data Warehouse) to create your reports.  IMHO the
  original Candle Omegamon product was designed to be an operational
  alerting and problem resolution tool, and it did that very well over
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  years.  Now management, at least mine, wants the product to do
  everything and it's not making the grade.
 
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Re: SDSF User Manual

2008-03-04 Thread Sebastian Welton
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 07:36:48 -0800, Schwarz, Barry A
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does anyone know of an SDSF user manual newer than the OS/390 2.10
version dated June 2000?  The z/OS manuals are title Operation and
Customization.  The 1.8 version contains chapters for batch and REXX but
nothing for the poor fool sitting at the terminal.


Might go someway to helping:

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/sdsf/

Seb

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Re: GRS RESMIL SETTING

2008-03-04 Thread Rob Schramm
From what I remember, RESMIL 0 should adapt and be self-tuning.  I think 
that the last time I used it we set it to RESMIL of 3.  At the time, we 
were a bit distrustful of letting the system determine how things should 
be done.  The whole thing worked pretty well up until we started adding 
more systems.  I think when we got up to 6 systems the ring started 
getting a little more sluggish.. at which time GRS-STAR solved the issue.

Rob Schramm

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Re: z/OS messages libraries ?

2008-03-04 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Francois GUILLEZ wrote:

I'd like to have access to z/OS messages libraries in order to get a message
using its code then display both in case of abend (I trap the abend and the
OS does not display anything).
Where and how do I get those messages ?

Bookmanager is your friend. 

Try bookshelf EZ2MZ800 z/OS V1R8.0 Messages and Codes Bookshelf 

Or online look for Online Library with advanced search facility

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/

LookAt is another friend.

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/lookat/

Happy reading/browsing/lookup... ;)

HTH

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Re: Large Page Datasets APAR OA20749

2008-03-04 Thread Edward Jaffe

Shane wrote:

But what if customers *do* go back to single (*really* big) page
datasets per volume ???.
  


I don't think anyone is suggesting customers reduce the number of page 
data sets in their configuration. But with the subject APAR, they can 
now make them larger than 4G. (Actually, they could make them larger 
than 4G *before* the APAR. The excess used to be ignored!)


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Re: z/OS messages libraries ?

2008-03-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
I think that he is looking for a programmatical way to include the messages in 
a job's run.  Which means he probably needs to look at products like QUICKREF 
or ABENDAID.  

Or he is trying to write his own and just looking for a feeder file.  We need 
to know what specific messages he is needing for his process.

The SYS1.MSGENU that was found is for ISPF/TSO Skel processing.  So I do not 
think this will do what he wants.

I think we need more details from Francois to see what could be done to assist.

Lizette



Francois GUILLEZ wrote:

I'd like to have access to z/OS messages libraries in order to get a message
using its code then display both in case of abend (I trap the abend and the
OS does not display anything).
Where and how do I get those messages ?

Bookmanager is your friend. 

Try bookshelf EZ2MZ800 z/OS V1R8.0 Messages and Codes Bookshelf 

Or online look for Online Library with advanced search facility

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/

LookAt is another friend.

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/lookat/

Happy reading/browsing/lookup... ;)

HTH

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: z/OS messages libraries - continued

2008-03-04 Thread Francois Guillez
Thanks much, I'll try that and let you know.


On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:41:16 -, Flint, Mike 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For LE messages, can't you use CEEMGET to convert a condition token to
text (although not all messages are trapped in this way...)?

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Subject: Re: z/OS messages libraries - continued

thanks Lizette.
Actually I use CEE callable service to handle abends and it gives me a
code 32xx so I'd like to get the corresponding message.
example : 3209 Fixed-point divide exception -- this message ??
refer to page 228 in z/OS V1R9.0 Language Environment Programming
Reference

On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:02:01 -0500, Lizette Koehler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Francois,

That is an ISPF Message Skeleton Library.  Therefore you would have
amp;vars
that would not be resolved.  I am not sure that is exactly what you
need.
The library is setup with message prefixes but not all messages are in
this library.

Lizette




Actually I found SYS1.MSGENU library which seems to contain all OS
messages, only I don't know how to get the message code from a
program.
Anybody help me?


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Re: z/OS messages libraries - continued

2008-03-04 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Francois,

Ok, Now that I understand it better, There is another product, called
Connect Direct that does pretty much what you are doing. If you have
their (Sterling Commerce) product, have a look at how they do it. They
have a message library that contains all the messages that you can get
using their product, and if you forget to update the message library,
you get a message that the message '' could not be found in the
message library. If I can remember correctly, the error code is in or
pointed too by register 15, but it has been a long time since I have
physically programmed. As just said, I would look at the quickref
libraries, because unless they have hardcoded it in their programs maybe
as a dsect, it should be in one of their libraries, because you can get
just about any message using their product.

Regards

Herbie


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Subject: Re: z/OS messages libraries - continued

thanks Lizette.
Actually I use CEE callable service to handle abends and it gives me a 
code 32xx so I'd like to get the corresponding message.
example : 3209 Fixed-point divide exception -- this message ??
refer to page 228 in z/OS V1R9.0 Language Environment Programming 
Reference

On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:02:01 -0500, Lizette Koehler 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Francois,

That is an ISPF Message Skeleton Library.  Therefore you would have
amp;vars 
that would not be resolved.  I am not sure that is exactly what you
need.  
The library is setup with message prefixes but not all messages are in
this 
library.

Lizette




Actually I found SYS1.MSGENU library which seems to contain all OS
messages, only I don't know how to get the message code from a
program.
Anybody help me?


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Re: z/OS messages libraries ?

2008-03-04 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Lizette Koehler wrote:

I think that he is looking for a programmatical way to include the messages in 
a job's run.  Which means he probably needs to look at products like QUICKREF 
or ABENDAID.

I missed that other thread. Thanks for the update.

Or he is trying to write his own and just looking for a feeder file.  We need 
to 
know what specific messages he is needing for his process.

It of course depends on what message and feeder file. There was in IBM-MAIN 
a thread about looking up reason codes with bpxmtext.

If he wants to make use of Bookmanager he can try out this Clist command:

%BOOKMGR shelfinfo CMD(SEARCH textstring 

where shelfinfo = EZ2MZ800 for z/OS v1.8.

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CICS SMF 110 record

2008-03-04 Thread Michael Saraco
Does anyone know if the CICS SMF 110 record has the IP address in it?

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Re: Rexx - TRAP errors / Exception handling ?

2008-03-04 Thread Arthur T.
On 4 Mar 2008 03:17:13 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main 
(Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zaromil Tisler) wrote:



Executing your REXX in z/OS 01.08.00:


31/02/08 is not valid
31/04/08 is not valid
31/06/08 is not valid
31/09/08 is not valid
31/11/08 is not valid
31/13/08 is not valid
31/14/08 is not valid
31/15/08 is not valid


 Thank you.  Regina is a free product, so I can't 
complain, per se.  However, I think I'll point out the 
problem.  I just wanted to make sure it wasn't WAD.



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USSTAB

2008-03-04 Thread Ron Wells
Assembled..new USSTAB...using same name as before..

tried loading new via modify opt=load and also opt=assoc 

these are tn3270 terminals in tcpip

do I need to issue obey ... and if I do---will it knock-off already signed 
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Re: CICS SMF 110 record

2008-03-04 Thread Mark Vitale
Check out the following CMF fields:

owner   CMF  len name
===  === 
DHFSOCK C244  16 CLIPADDR
DFHSOCK A330   4 CLIPPORT
DFHCICS C368  16 OCLIPADR
DHFCICS A369   4 OCLIPORT 


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Re: SDSF User Manual

2008-03-04 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Thank you.  Not exactly what I was looking for but useful in its own
way. 

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I do not know if this will help, but IBM provides a PDF summary card for
SDSF

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/sdsf/pdf/sdsfcard.pdf

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Re: USSTAB

2008-03-04 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:07:55 -0600, Ron Wells 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Assembled..new USSTAB...using same name as before..

tried loading new via modify opt=load and also opt=assoc 

these are tn3270 terminals in tcpip

do I need to issue obey ... and if I do---will it knock-off already signed
in users??
...

TCP/IP is not as flexable as V TAM in handling USSTABs.  Unless
they've changed the way it works later, as long as any connection 
is using the old copy of the table, that's the one in storage.  New
connections will pick it up.  As far as I know there is nothing you
can Obeyfile in that will change this (unless you Obeyfile in something
that breaks all connectios using the table).  Once all the connections
have terminated the old table will be deleted.  The next connection
will cause the new table to be loaded.

The only way I know of to get around this is to use 2 or more table 
names.  Obeyfile in a new set of Tn3270 defs that refer to the new
table name.  The existing connections will not be hurt and new ones
will get the new table.

That's a pain if you make lots of changes and have long lasting 
connections.  Keeping track of the table names can be a hassle.

Maybe it's time for a formal request to IBM that TCP/IP do a better 
job of supporting USSTAB changes.


Pat O'Keefe 

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Re: Rexx - TRAP errors / Exception handling ?

2008-03-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 03/03/2008
   at 07:53 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Why are you separating the two?

Maybe because they are totally different?

I rarely write REXX execs that do not interface with ISPF.

K3wl. That doesn't make them the same, nor mean that others don't use them
independently.

Under TSO, REXX without ISPF functionality is like COBOL without packed
decimal.

I've written plenty of REXX code that works perfectly well from the READY
prompt. I use ISPF services from REXX only when there is some point to
doing so, and I write ISPF dialogs in languages other than REXX. I may
keep my hammer and my screwdriver in the same toolbox, but that doesn't
make them the same or even similar.
 
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Re: SDSF User Manual

2008-03-04 Thread Howard Brazee
On 4 Mar 2008 12:03:30 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Schwarz,
Barry A) wrote:

I've never seen any SDSF data in ISPF Help.  SDSF does have help panels.
They are not bad as reference but it is difficult to find anything if
you don't already know the exact command.  For example, is FINDLIM a
command or an operand on the SET command?  If SDSF Help had an index and
a tutorial like ISPF, I think it would be more useful.  While I do have
some success with ISPF, Windows and even SDSF Help, I must admit to
being a manual bigot.  It is just much easier for me to find what I want
in a PDF.

Even with a manual, what do you do if you remember there is a FLIP
command (flipping excluded and non excluded lines in edit or view).
But you don't remember what it's called.   You try SWAP, EXCHANGE,
etc.   How do you find it?

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Re: USSTAB

2008-03-04 Thread Ron Wells
Pat

Just posted question/problem to IBM to see what they come back with...let 
ya know...

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Re: SDSF User Manual

2008-03-04 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Howard Brazee
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF User Manual

On 4 Mar 2008 12:03:30 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Schwarz, Barry
A) wrote:

I've never seen any SDSF data in ISPF Help.  SDSF does have help
panels.
They are not bad as reference but it is difficult to find anything if 
you don't already know the exact command.  For example, is FINDLIM a 
command or an operand on the SET command?  If SDSF Help had an index 
and a tutorial like ISPF, I think it would be more useful.  While I do 
have some success with ISPF, Windows and even SDSF Help, I must admit 
to being a manual bigot.  It is just much easier for me to find what I 
want in a PDF.

Even with a manual, what do you do if you remember there is a FLIP
command (flipping excluded and non excluded lines in edit or view).
But you don't remember what it's called.   You try SWAP, EXCHANGE,
etc.   How do you find it?
SNIP

Obviously, you ask on IBM-Main.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: SDSF User Manual

2008-03-04 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
I've never seen any SDSF data in ISPF Help.  SDSF does have help panels.
They are not bad as reference but it is difficult to find anything if
you don't already know the exact command.  For example, is FINDLIM a
command or an operand on the SET command?  If SDSF Help had an index and
a tutorial like ISPF, I think it would be more useful.  While I do have
some success with ISPF, Windows and even SDSF Help, I must admit to
being a manual bigot.  It is just much easier for me to find what I want
in a PDF.

-Original Message-
From: Walt Farrell 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:59 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF User Manual

On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 07:36:48 -0800, Schwarz, Barry A wrote:

Does anyone know of an SDSF user manual newer than the OS/390 2.10 
version dated June 2000?  The z/OS manuals are title Operation and 
Customization.  The 1.8 version contains chapters for batch and REXX 
but nothing for the poor fool sitting at the terminal.

Why doesn't the user at the terminal simply use the ISPF help facility?


I'm not sure how many of our products document panel usage in books, vs
making use of the ISPF help functions.

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Re: SDSF User Manual

2008-03-04 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
I search on exclude. 

I search the index to see if something jogs my memory.

And sometimes I can't find it and resort to a brute force sequential
eyeball scan.

-Original Message-
From: Howard Brazee 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF User Manual

Even with a manual, what do you do if you remember there is a FLIP
command (flipping excluded and non excluded lines in edit or view).
But you don't remember what it's called.   You try SWAP, EXCHANGE,
etc.   How do you find it?

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Re: SDSF User Manual

2008-03-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:23:14 -0700, Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

On 4 Mar 2008 12:03:30 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Schwarz,
Barry A) wrote:

I've never seen any SDSF data in ISPF Help.  SDSF does have help panels.
They are not bad as reference but it is difficult to find anything if
you don't already know the exact command.  For example, is FINDLIM a
command or an operand on the SET command?  If SDSF Help had an index and
a tutorial like ISPF, I think it would be more useful.  While I do have
some success with ISPF, Windows and even SDSF Help, I must admit to
being a manual bigot.  It is just much easier for me to find what I want
in a PDF.

Even with a manual, what do you do if you remember there is a FLIP
command (flipping excluded and non excluded lines in edit or view).
But you don't remember what it's called.   You try SWAP, EXCHANGE,
etc.   How do you find it?


You use words that describe what the command / function does (like exclude*).
This is the same thing you would do to search the MVS commands manual
(or any other manual) or even a search engine.   It may take you a few tries 
or different keywords but you should find it eventually.

I think the point of the OP is that there is no standard way to search ISPF
help that is contained in panels.   

So to answer the OP:   What I would do (and have done in the past) is
to use PDS86 (and it's predecessors / sister product) to search the panel
library or a SYSHELP concatenated library.

Mark
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Announcement for hlasm.com

2008-03-04 Thread Abe Kornelis

Hello all,

(Cross-posting to various lists)

I have enhanced the opcode tables at
http://www.hlasm.com/english/opcd00.htm
with all the new opcodes defined in the new
z/Architecture Principles of Operation (version nr. 6).

Please mind that the links for most instructions
still point to pages with hardly any details.
Pages for the newer instructions are still lacking
altogether. Unfortunately, I find the time lacking
to write them all out.
Maybe someday...

In the meantime I'll try to finish the site generator
which I'm converting to z390 macro processing.
Once that's finished there will be at least a page
with some rudimentary information for each 
instruction. Current count stands at 1744.


Cheers,
Abe Kornelis
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Serverpac order and Java

2008-03-04 Thread Peggy Andrews
Hi, all.
Previously, in our 1.7 ServerPac order, we got Program #5655D35, Java 2 
Technology Edition - No charge
Now, in ShopzSeries for our 1.9 ServerPac order, it is showing an available 
upgrade to Program #5655-I56, IBM SDK for z/OS, Java 2 Technology Edition 
v1.4, but I cannot find whether this is still a no charge feature -
Anyone?

Much appreciated.
Peggy

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z10 Extract file for the EPSPT Tool

2008-03-04 Thread Marna WALLE
If you are using the EPSPT tool to verify the PTFs for the new z10, this is
of interest to you.

We have found that there was a problem during the creation of the Upgrade
2097DEVICE, Subset 2097/ZOS - Extract File .  There are three PTFs
identified in the 2097 PSP bucket for z/OS that were not brought forward
into the extract file.  The missing PTFs are for APAR OA22675, which are
UA39409 (R7), UA39410 (R7), and  UA39412 (R8).  The R9 PTF UA39411 is in the
extract file correctly.  The problem was limited to only APAR OA22675.

We intend to have the updated 2097 extract file updated tonight (March 4) or
tomorrow night (March 5) at the latest.  In the meantime, if you've used the
existing 2097 extract file, note that these three PTFs were missing.

-Marna WALLE
z/OS System Build and Install
IBM Poughkeepsie

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Re: Serverpac order and Java

2008-03-04 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peggy Andrews
 
 Hi, all.
 Previously, in our 1.7 ServerPac order, we got Program 
 #5655D35, Java 2 Technology Edition - No charge Now, in 
 ShopzSeries for our 1.9 ServerPac order, it is showing an 
 available upgrade to Program #5655-I56, IBM SDK for z/OS, 
 Java 2 Technology Edition v1.4, but I cannot find whether 
 this is still a no charge feature - Anyone?

Should still be no-charge -- I think the term now is non-priced.
Optionally, you can still download the non-SMP/E-installable Java
(1.4.2, 1.5 and 1.6) from the IBM Java pages.

-jc-

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Re: Serverpac order and Java

2008-03-04 Thread John Eells

Peggy Andrews wrote:

Hi, all.
Previously, in our 1.7 ServerPac order, we got Program #5655D35, Java 2 
Technology Edition - No charge
Now, in ShopzSeries for our 1.9 ServerPac order, it is showing an available 
upgrade to Program #5655-I56, IBM SDK for z/OS, Java 2 Technology Edition 
v1.4, but I cannot find whether this is still a no charge feature -

Anyone?

snip

I don't find 5655-I56; are you sure that's the correct product number? 
But in any case, all the z/OS-based Java products are either no charge 
or free (I can't recall which; the difference is not really important to 
you, though).


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Re: CICS SMF 110 record

2008-03-04 Thread Michael Saraco
Thanks for the input now my question is if I have no MCT table will I be 
able to get the CLIPADDR. I am using the DFH$MOLS utility to produce the 
reports. If I do a PRINT ALL I see the DHFSOCK C244  16 CLIPADDR  but only 
in the top of the report where it list all the fields.

Michael Saraco
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Subject:
Re: CICS SMF 110 record



Check out the following CMF fields:

owner   CMF  len name
===  === 
DHFSOCK C244  16 CLIPADDR
DFHSOCK A330   4 CLIPPORT
DFHCICS C368  16 OCLIPADR
DHFCICS A369   4 OCLIPORT 


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Re: CICS SMF 110 record

2008-03-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Thanks for the input now my question is if I have no MCT table will I be able 
to get the CLIPADDR. I am using the DFH$MOLS utility to produce the 
reports. If I do a PRINT ALL I see the DHFSOCK C244  16 CLIPADDR  but only in 
the top of the report where it list all the fields.

I suggest that you go to CICS-L.
They are much more conversant regarding CICS.
While there are a lot of smart people here, the true CICS experts are on the 
other list.

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Re: Serverpac order and Java

2008-03-04 Thread Jousma, David
John,

I don't know how much influence you have on the ShopZseries process, but
it would be nice if all of the products that fall into this category
where somehow noted as such.  I like to order these products for
completeness, to avoid if possible the add-on's between Serverpac
installs.  Others that have fallen into this category were XML toolkit,
Java, Ported tools, etc.  I'm sure there are more besides these.

BTW, nice job presenting at SHARE.  I sat through one of your sessions.

Dave


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I don't find 5655-I56; are you sure that's the correct product number? 
But in any case, all the z/OS-based Java products are either no charge 
or free (I can't recall which; the difference is not really important to

you, though).

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Re: Serverpac order and Java

2008-03-04 Thread Peggy Andrews
Thanks John and John -
I actually found a reference to it being no charge in the product 
announcement letter - not in the sales manual document.

Best Regards,
Peggy

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Re: GRS RESMIL SETTING

2008-03-04 Thread Anthony Fletcher
Thanks - 
What I hoped for is comment from someone who had observed that GRS 
propagates the RESMIL value to all members even if not specified in the 
individual LPAR definitions.

regards, 
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From what I remember, RESMIL 0 should adapt and be self-tuning.  I think 
that the last time I used it we set it to RESMIL of 3.  At the time, we 
were a bit distrustful of letting the system determine how things should 
be done.  The whole thing worked pretty well up until we started adding 
more systems.  I think when we got up to 6 systems the ring started 
getting a little more sluggish.. at which time GRS-STAR solved the issue.

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Any consideration to reduce I/O against COMMDS when SMSPLEX = SYSPLEX?

2008-03-04 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi,

The SMS address space is one of the Top 10 I/O consumers on most z/OS systems 
here.  It is small compared to DB2 and IMS but large compared to most other 
persistent tasks.

Has anyone ever had a conversation with IBM or raised a requirement to reduce 
the physical I/O to the COMMDS when the SMSPLEX is identical to the Sysplex?  
Maybe this is a dumb question and there is some obvious tuning knob I have been 
missing.   I noticed we do have interval set to 10 seconds instead of the 
default 15 and it has been that way apparently since we implemented SMS in the 
1990's.  When I was looking at this it just struck me as really odd that almost 
every other product we have that that does checkpoint processing to communicate 
system status can optionally exploit the coupling facility or XCF but not 
DFSMS.  I keep an eye on Top I/O consumers looking for any changes and usually 
skipped over SMS but I had a Why is the sky blue? moment today. 

JES2, Thruput Manager, CA-MIM all exploit XCF or Coupling Facility structures 
to exchange status information and reduce data set checkpoint I/O.

D SMS,OPTIONS
IGD002I 19:54:14 DISPLAY SMS 756 
ACDS = SYS2.SMS.ACDS 
COMMDS   = SYS2.SMS.COMMDS   
INTERVAL = 10   DINTERVAL = 150  
SMF_TIME = YES  CACHETIME = 3600 
CF_TIME = 3600  PDSE_RESTARTABLE_AS = YES
PDSE_BMFTIME = 3600 PDSE1_BMFTIME = 3600 
PDSE_LRUTIME = 60   PDSE1_LRUTIME = 60   
PDSE_LRUCYCLES = 15PDSE1_LRUCYCLES = 15  
LOCAL_DEADLOCK = 15 GLOBAL_DEADLOCK = 4  
REVERIFY = NO   DSNTYPE = PDS
ACSDEFAULTS = NOPDSESHARING = EXTENDED   
OVRD_EXPDT = NO SYSTEMS = 8  
PDSE_HSP_SIZE = 0MB   PDSE1_HSP_SIZE   = 0MB 
USE_RESOWNER = YES  RLS_MAX_POOL_SIZE = 100MB
RLSINIT = YES   RLSTMOUT = 0 
CICSVR_INIT = NOCOMPRESS = GENERIC   
CICSVR_DSNAME_PREFIX = DWW.  
CICSVR_RCDS_PREFIX = DWW 
CICSVR_GRPNAME_SUFFIX = PROD 
CICSVR_ZZVALUE_PARM =
CICSVR_UNDOLOG_CONTROL = 
CICSVR_UNDOLOG_PREFIX = DWW  
CICSVR_BACKOUT_CONTROL = 
CICSVR_GENERAL_CONTROL = 
Rls_MaxCfFeatureLevel = A
RlsAboveTheBarMaxPoolSize = 0
RlsFixedPoolSize = 0 
PDSE_MONITOR = (YES,0,0)  PDSE1_MONITOR = (YES,0,0)  
PDSE_DIRECTORY_STORAGE = 2000M   
PDSE1_DIRECTORY_STORAGE = 2000M  
PDSE_BUFFER_BEYOND_CLOSE = YES   
PDSE1_BUFFER_BEYOND_CLOSE = YES  
GDS_RECLAIM = YES   DSSTIMEOUT = 0   
BLOCKTOKENSIZE = NOREQUIRE   FAST_VOLSEL = OFF   
IGD002I 19:54:14 DISPLAY SMS 
TRACE= OFFSIZE = 128K TYPE = ERROR   
  JOBNAME = *ASID = *
  TRACING EVENTS:
MODULE = ON   SMSSJF = ON   SMSSSI = ON   ACSINT = ON
OPCMD  = ON   CONFC  = ON   CDSC   = ON   CONFS  = ON
MSG= ON   ERR= ON   CONFR  = ON   CONFA  = ON
ACSPRO = ON   IDAX   = ON   DISP   = ON   CATG   = ON
VOLREF = ON   SCHEDP = ON   SCHEDS = ON   VTOCL  = ON
VTOCD  = ON   VTOCR  = ON   VTOCC  = ON   VTOCA  = ON
RCD= ON   DCF= ON   DPN= ON   TVR= ON
DSTACK = ON   UAFF   = ON   DEBUG  = ON  
VOLSELMSG = (OFF,0)TYPE = ERRORJOBNAME = *   
ASID = *  STEPNAME = *   
DSNAME = *   


Anyone have any thoughts on the list or privately if you don't want to comment 
on IBM-MAIN is fine too?


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DCF (was Re: System z10 announcement (in English))

2008-03-04 Thread Roger Bolan
Would you guys stop talking about DCF (Document Composition Facility, 
5748-XX9) a.k.a. Script in the past tense?   It is still available for 
z/OS, z/VM, and z/VSE. 
http://www.infoprintsolutionscompany.com/internet/wwsites.nsf/vwwebpublished/dcfhome_z_us

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Re: Netview problem

2008-03-04 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.

What is the userid that is associated with the messages?

These are not duplicate messages, the commands are getting issued 
multiple times, 5 times to be exact.  This is evident because of the 
messages that the TIMER ID is not unique and the member AA is already 
active.


It is almost as if multiple (5) automated operators are executing 
CNME2001.  Do you limit which operator executed CNME2001?





Rafa? Hanzel ZETO wrote:

In CNME2001 we use
CHRON AT=(07:00:00) +
COMMAND='EVERY P1,PPT,ID=NLDMC,NLDM COLLECT RTM * LOG' ROUTE=PPT
and additionally we run

CHRON AT=(07:00:00) +
COMMAND='MVS F RMF,START AA,MEMBER(11)' ROUTE=PPT

In Netlog at 7.00 we see :

DSI034I COMMAND SCHEDULED BY AT/EVERY/AFTER COMMAND - 'NLDM COLLECT RTM 
* LOG'

DSI201I TIMER REQUEST SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION 'ID=NLDMC'
DSI204I TIMER REQUEST ID NOT UNIQUE ID = 'NLDMC'
DSI202I TIMER REQUEST FAILED TO BE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION 'ID=NLDMC'
DSI204I TIMER REQUEST ID NOT UNIQUE ID = 'NLDMC'
DSI202I TIMER REQUEST FAILED TO BE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION 'ID=NLDMC'
DSI204I TIMER REQUEST ID NOT UNIQUE ID = 'NLDMC'
DSI202I TIMER REQUEST FAILED TO BE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION 'ID=NLDMC'
DSI204I TIMER REQUEST ID NOT UNIQUE ID = 'NLDMC'
DSI202I TIMER REQUEST FAILED TO BE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION 'ID=NLDMC'
ERB100I AA : ACTIVE
ERB200I AA : ALREADY ACTIVE

ERB200I AA : ALREADY ACTIVE

ERB200I AA : ALREADY ACTIVE

ERB200I AA : ALREADY ACTIVE


John S. Giltner, Jr. napisa?(a):

Do you see anything in NetView's log?

I am not sure if you are actually seeing the same message duplicated 
or if something is happening multiple times.


Do OPER1 and NETOP1 have an console assigned to them?


Rafa? Hanzel ZETO wrote:

We running Netview without SUB=MSTR.
In SYSLOG we see :

0290 IEA630I OPERATOR CNM0T02 NOW ACTIVE, SYSTEM=CPAC , LU=CNM02PPT
0290 F RMF,START AA,MEMBER(11)
0290 F RMF,START AA,MEMBER(11)
0290 F RMF,START AA,MEMBER(11)
0290 F RMF,START AA,MEMBER(11)
0290 F RMF,START AA,MEMBER(11)


In CNME2001 we have :

CHRON AT=(07:00:00) +
COMMAND='MVS F RMF,START AA,MEMBER(11)' ROUTE=PPT


maybe this will be helpful to recognize this problem.After we start 
Netview we receive something like this :


18:52:00 - DSI205I 000 TIMER ELEMENTS PURGED OP = 'AUTO1'
18:52:00 - DSI034I COMMAND SCHEDULED BY AT/EVERY/AFTER COMMAND - 
'IDLEOFF

18:52:00 - DSI201I TIMER REQUEST SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION 'ID=IDLEOFF'
18:52:00 C DWO971I IDLEOFF : OPER1 ADDED TO EXCEPTOP LIST
18:52:00 C DWO971I IDLEOFF : NETOP1 ADDED TO EXCEPTOP LIST
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTOP:
18:52:00 ! OPER1
18:52:00 ! NETOP1
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTLU: NONE
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTAUTO: NONE
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTNNT: NONE
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTRMTCMD: NONE
18:52:00 - CNM493I DSITBL01 : #151 : CNME2001
18:52:00 C DWO975I IDLEOFF : NO ACTIVE TASKS ARE EXEMPT FROM IDLE 
TIME LIMITS

18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTOP:
18:52:00 ! OPER1
18:52:00 ! NETOP1
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTLU: NONE
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTAUTO: ALL
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTNNT: NONE
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTRMTCMD: NONE
18:52:00 - CNM493I DSITBL01 : #151 : CNME2001
18:52:00 C DWO975I IDLEOFF : NO ACTIVE TASKS ARE EXEMPT FROM IDLE 
TIME LIMITS

18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTOP:
18:52:00 ! OPER1
18:52:00 ! NETOP1
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTLU: NONE
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTAUTO: ALL
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTNNT: NONE
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTRMTCMD: NONE
18:52:00 - CNM493I DSITBL01 : #151 : CNME2001
18:52:00 C DWO975I IDLEOFF : NO ACTIVE TASKS ARE EXEMPT FROM IDLE 
TIME LIMITS

18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTOP:
18:52:00 ! OPER1
18:52:00 ! NETOP1
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTLU: NONE
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTAUTO: ALL
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTNNT: NONE
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTRMTCMD: NONE
18:52:00 - CNM493I DSITBL01 : #151 : CNME2001
18:52:00 C DWO975I IDLEOFF : NO ACTIVE TASKS ARE EXEMPT FROM IDLE 
TIME LIMITS

18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTOP:
18:52:00 ! OPER1
18:52:00 ! NETOP1
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTLU: NONE
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTAUTO: ALL
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTNNT: NONE
18:52:00 C DWO976I IDLEOFF : EXCEPTRMTCMD: NONE
18:52:00 - CNM493I DSITBL01 : #151 : CNME2001
18:52:00 C DWO975I IDLEOFF : NO ACTIVE TASKS ARE EXEMPT FROM IDLE 
TIME LIMITS

18:52:00 - DSI201I TIMER REQUEST SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION 'ID=SYS1'
18:52:00 - DSI201I TIMER REQUEST SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION 'ID=SYS2'
18:52:00 - DSI201I TIMER REQUEST SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION 'ID=SYS3'
18:52:00 - DSI201I TIMER REQUEST SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION 'ID=SYS4'
18:52:00 - DSI201I TIMER REQUEST SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION 'ID=SYS5'
18:52:00 - DSI201I TIMER REQUEST SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION 'ID=SYS6'
18:52:00 - DSI201I TIMER REQUEST SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION 'ID=SYS7'
18:52:00 - DSI201I TIMER REQUEST SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION 'ID=SYS8'

Re: DCF (was Re: System z10 announcement (in English))

2008-03-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:26:32 -0700, Roger Bolan wrote:

Would you guys stop talking about DCF (Document Composition Facility,
5748-XX9) a.k.a. Script in the past tense?   It is still available for
z/OS, z/VM, and z/VSE.
 http://www.infoprintsolutionscompany.com/internet/wwsites.nsf/vwwebpublished/dcfhome_z_us

Alas, whenever I search for a z/Series PoOP online in HTML/Book format
as opposed to PDF, I conclude that some department within IBM thinks
of DCF only in the past tense.  Has PoOP authoring abandoned DCF for
a competing tool?

-- gil

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Re: SDSF User Manual

2008-03-04 Thread Barbara Nitz
The latest manual I was able to find was SA22-7670-09 (Sept 06). 

Walt,

I really wouldn't want to read up on a conversion from SDSF security (yes, 
we're still using *that*) to RACF via panels! 

Regards, Barbara Nitz
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Re: z/OS messages libraries - continued

2008-03-04 Thread Francois Guillez
It's been hard but it worked eventually, I got the message :)
Thanks to all who replied, I have another question about CEE callable service 
to handle abends: besides a message number, it gives me an 'offset', does 
anybody know what offset it is, and from what address?


On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:41:16 -, Flint, Mike
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For LE messages, can't you use CEEMGET to convert a condition token to
text (although not all messages are trapped in this way...)?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Francois Guillez
Sent: 04 March 2008 15:29
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: z/OS messages libraries - continued

thanks Lizette.
Actually I use CEE callable service to handle abends and it gives me a
code 32xx so I'd like to get the corresponding message.
example : 3209 Fixed-point divide exception -- this message ??
refer to page 228 in z/OS V1R9.0 Language Environment Programming
Reference

On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:02:01 -0500, Lizette Koehler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Francois,

That is an ISPF Message Skeleton Library.  Therefore you would have
amp;vars
that would not be resolved.  I am not sure that is exactly what you
need.
The library is setup with message prefixes but not all messages are in
this library.

Lizette




Actually I found SYS1.MSGENU library which seems to contain all OS
messages, only I don't know how to get the message code from a
program.
Anybody help me?


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