Re: How is SRBPTCB instantiated?
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:08:56 -0700 Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :On Apr 28, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote: : Binyamin's question is a good one. But, your answer/commentary is : bizarre. :Well, I guess you sure put me in my place, didn't you? I don't think anyone is trying to put you in your place. There is a basic difference between TCB's and SRB's. The storage containing the SRB block is only known to the dispatcher before it is dispatched. Once it is dispatched the dispatcher no longer has any knowledge of it and it can be overlaid or freed without consequence - even by the code that it caused to be dispatched. The storage containing the TCB block is known to the dispatcher even while the code described by it is running. If the storage containing the TCB is overlaid or freed by the code that it caused to be dispatched one can expect quite dire consequences. -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FW: ServerPac 3592 cartridge without bar code.
John Eells wrote: Chase, John wrote: Forwarded on behalf of a colleague snip As an alternative, how large a download is a typical z/OS 1.9 Serverpac via electronic delivery? I'm told that 7-10GB is average these days for z/OS orders, depending, of course, upon order content. I just installed z/OS 1.9. *Two* HPCT carts. Cartridge size is 10GB uncompressed, typically 30GB compressed. So, it had to be (significantly) more than 10GB. Of course it depends on the products included in the order. Installation didn't fit on single DLIB and Target (mod9's). -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How is SRBPTCB instantiated?
O.K. guys, we don't need a pissing contest. The audience (me included) are more than willing to hear from anyone and everyone with relevant experience. I (at least) don't need to witness a fight as to who has the bigger balls. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where to find classes for VTAM
IBM has two listed on their training web site at (watch for URL wrapping) http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03001c/services/learning/ites.wss/us/en?pageType=courses_azsubChapterInd=CsortBy=6subChapter=354 VTAM/APPN Concepts and Implementation VTAM/NCP MSN and SNI Implementation Mark T. Regan, K8MTR CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991) - Original Message From: Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:57:31 PM Subject: Where to find classes for VTAM I am suppose to put to gether some classes for this year. I thought I would like to add VTAM to a list of things I can do. But I cannot seem to find any classes for VTAM, APPN, or EE. Does anyone have any recommendations? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ServerPac 3592 cartridge without bar code.
Haven't had a 3592 shipped yet, but have been able to read 3590 ServerPac carts from an ATL. Will have to check tomorrow at work, but I believe all I had to do was to (1). Insert the volume serial into the volcat. (2). Insert the volume as an unlabeled cart into the ATL. (3) Read it. Cheers, Paul Gillis -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, 29 April 2008 1:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: FW: ServerPac 3592 cartridge without bar code. Forwarded on behalf of a colleague __ We ordered a z/OS 1.9 ServerPac on 3592 media. IBM shipped the cartridge without a bar code. We are using a 3584 Automatic Tape Library which requires an external bar code label. We tried the process from the TS3500 Operator Guide (GA32-056-03) page 77 - Assigning a Volume Serial (VOLSER) Number to a Tape with an Unknown VOLSER. However when we attempt to use the tape we get: CTTCBR14: VOLUME: M249AA IS CURRENTLY IN EJECT PROCESS 648 PLEASE RESPOND TO CTTCBR12 MESSAGE Msg CTTCBR14 is issued by exit CBRUXVNL when a mount message is issued for a volume that is currently in eject process from the automated tape library. As an alternative, how large a download is a typical z/OS 1.9 Serverpac via electronic delivery? TIA, -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS PUZZLE
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:25:31 -0700, willie bunter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hallo Everybody,
I am trying to track down why some dsns with the HLQ of TEST.** are
being directed to a non-SMS volume. I noticed that a majority of the dsns are
being allocated correctly by SMS. I ran a check on the ACS routines and I
found that the SC ACS has a storage class set for TEST.**
I also noticed that is another storage class for unit types. Could this be
the cause? I executed some tests where I used the unit=3390, the dsn
(TEST.AAA.BB) was then allocated with the proper storage class and storage
group. However, when I used the unit=3390 with the volser of a non-SMS
pack, the dsn (TEST.AAA.CC) was allocated on the pack Below is a sample
of the SC ACS.
FILTLIST VALUNIT INCLUDE
('3380','SYSDA','SYSALLDA','3390','PUBLIC',VVIO','PROD','TEST''' )
FILTLIST GDVX_DSN INCLUDE
(LIBR.**, SCPX.SYST.*.VSAMEXT.**,
TEST.**,TEST1.**,ALQTOPR.**,
.
.))
WHEN (UNIT NE VALUNIT)
SET STORCLAS = ''
WHEN (HLQ = POOL_GDVX OR DSN = GDVX_DSN)
SET STORCLAS = 'SCTEST'
Am I on the right track in thinking that the SC VALUNIT is the cause of the
problem? If so, how can I fix it? I would appreciate your suggestion and
comments.
Thanks in advance.
Hey Willie, just a couple of thoughts :
Is it possible that perhaps there are other esoteric names being used for
VALUNIT such as DISK... that aren't being tested?
I noticed that the string has quotes around the commas as does the VVIO
designation. I assume this was done on purpose?
HTH,
Gil.
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Re: PCOM and trailing blanks in copy paste
Thank you for all your answers and hints! 1. Trimming the trailing blanks: Unfortunately I do not have any RegEx-capable program at work and UltraEdit is not in our software catalog. Anyhow, I've got the following Information offline: - snip - Hi, i normally use Notepad++ (free product) on my PC. Paste into Notepad++ cntl-a TextFX -- TextFX Edit -- Trim Trailing Spaces cntl-c (cntl-x to cut instead of copy) go paste into the email http://www.filehippo.com/download_notepad/ - snip - The homepage is http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm It works! 2. Truncating trailing blanks in variable records We have ISPF Productivity Tool (ex-SPIFFY) active (to get EDSET command I had to logon with vanilla ISPF). Saving the edited file brings a pop-up window IQIESAVV with the following text: - snip - You are about to truncate all trailing blanks of each record. Truncate trailing blanks? Y (yes) or N (no) --- N Specify your choice and press ENTER. Enter END or CANCEL to cancel this request. - snip - The default is always N, independent of the value in the profile (Maybe I am the only person ever to try this feature in SPIFFY? :-)) Thank you once more and have a nice day! -- aromil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Just checking
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Re: NJE / RJE from REMOTE WINDOWS/UNIX ?
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:40:56 -0400, Finch, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can use FTP to send to JES2. It's a poor RJE but it works Likewise JES3. Perhaps even better, because there's no 80-column limit. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
JES2 NJE Reporting
Does anyone have any programs they can share that would allow me to produce a report of our NJE activity from SMF records? My site has SAS and MXG available that I can use if your job uses them too. Thanks. Mark T. Regan, K8MTR CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zIIPs zAAP exploitation
The zIIPs don't particularly affect JDBC or ODBC access to DB2 stored procedures with DB2 V8 for z/OS, as far as I know. DB2 9 for z/OS does enjoy zIIP benefits in such a scenario, however. But if the DB2 stored procedures are written in Java (1.4.1 or higher at a sufficient build level), they can exploit zAAPs. With DB2 9 you can actually drive both types of engines with Java stored procedures remotely accessed (cross-LPAR or over the network) via DRDA (JDBC, ODBC). - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Emulators (again ...)
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:31:39 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frequent IPCS users might prefer 142 column displays. Mine are 62x142. -- IPCS works great with anything width 136 or above (isn't that what you used to use?). I use 142 because it allows me to EDIT/VIEW an LRECL=133 (output) data set and include the sequence numbers with the data without having to scroll to the right. 141 is actually enough but I ran into a problem with the REVIEW command (http://www.cbttape.org) with odd numbers. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Emulators (again ...)
Mark Zelden wrote: IPCS works great with anything width 136 or above (isn't that what you used to use?). I use 142 because it allows me to EDIT/VIEW an LRECL=133 (output) data set and include the sequence numbers with the data without having to scroll to the right. 141 is actually enough but I ran into a problem with the REVIEW command (http://www.cbttape.org) with odd numbers. Of course, you're right. I switched to 142 some time ago based on your suggestion. I forgot that IPCS only needs 136. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Chargeback for zIIP zAAP Usage
Answer: C. Some sort of discount. It should also be a fixed-plus-variable regime. The marginal cost of one additional unit of processing on a zIIP or zAAP is trivial, so if you charge the average cost you convey all sorts of perverse incentives to users. I also tend to think that different service classes ought to have different charges. The costs should be declining over time as well. zIIPs and zAAPs get faster with a model upgrade, for example. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Language Enviroment HLASM question.
I write my DB2 stored procedures and user defined functions in assembler, and they are required to be LE compliant. Todd -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Language Enviroment HLASM question. Is there any reason that anybody can think of for making an ASSEMBLER program an LE main routine, other than if it invokes some LE subroutines or COBOL (or other LE-enabled language) subroutines? What about if it uses the BPX... subroutines to do UNIX work? More curious than anything else. -- John McKown No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.6/1402 - Release Date: 4/28/2008 1:29 PM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Emulators (again ...)
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 06:20 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: Of course, you're right. I switched to 142 some time ago based on your suggestion. I forgot that IPCS only needs 136. What about report view ???. FWIW, I tried x3270 again and still couldn't get it to behave at large screen sizes. Tom wins - and that from a die-hard F/OSS guy. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 NJE Reporting
snip a report of our NJE activity from SMF snip If you simply want print info, eg forms, lines, dest, then a simply SAS of SMF06 might do. //CHKJOBT EXEC SAS 0015 //WORK DD SPACE=(CYL,(200,200)) 00170001 //SMF DD DISP=SHR,DSN=ASD.CNKELJJ.SMF06.J02.JULAUG 0021 //SYSOUT DD DUMMY 0021 //SYSINDD * 0022 OPTIONS DATE ERRORS=2 NUMBER SOURCE /*SOURCE2*/ ; 00281000 DATA SMF06 (KEEP = SYSOUT FCB UCS FORMS) ; 00290001 FORMAT LINES COMMA7.0 ; 0033 INFILE SMF TRUNCOVER MISSOVER /* OBS=050 */ ; 0034 INPUT @11 SID $4. 0035 @15 JOB $8. 0036 @39 SYSOUT$1. 0037 @48 LINES PIB4. 00371000 /* @53 NODS PIB1. */ 00372000 @54 FORMS $4. 00373001 @65 JOBNOS$4. 00374000 @69 PRTDEV$8. 00375000 @77 FCB $4. 00376000 @81 UCS $4. 00377000 @ ; 0038 IF _N_ = 1 THEN XYZ = DATEPART(JOB) ; 0039 *IF SUBSTR(PRTDEV,1,3) EQ 'NJE' THEN DELETE ; /* local ptr only */ 00393000 IF SUBSTR(UCS,1,3) EQ 'VPS' THEN DELETE ; /* not vps*/ 00394000 RETURN ; 0042 0043 PROC SORT DATA=SMF06 OUT=SORTED NODUPS; 00440001 BY SYSOUT ; 00450001 PROC PRINT DATA=SORTED NOOBS U N ; 00460001 TITLE UNIQUE SYSOUT FOR J02 JUL 01,2000 THRU AUG 06 ; 00470001 /* Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Emulators (again ...)
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 23:28 +1000, Shane wrote: FWIW, I tried x3270 again and still couldn't get it to behave at large screen sizes. Tom wins - and that from a die-hard F/OSS guy. This is my exact command line to start up x3270: x3270 -model 3279-5-e -oversize 140x58 -reconnect [hostname] And I use Ed's device definitions in the TN3270 profile (Ed's the man!) ; ; Ed Jaffe's TelnetDevice statements ; TelnetDevice 3277 D4C32XX3 ; TelnetDevice 3278-2-E D4C32XX3,D4C32XX3 ; 24 line screen TelnetDevice 3278-2 D4C32XX3,D4C32XX3 ; 24 line screen TelnetDevice 3279-2-E D4C32XX3 ; 24 line screen TelnetDevice 3279-2 D4C32XX3 ; 24 line screen TelnetDevice 3278-3-E D4C32XX3,D4C32XX3 ; 32 line screen TelnetDevice 3278-3 D4C32XX3,D4C32XX3 ; 32 line screen TelnetDevice 3279-3-E D4C32XX3 ; 32 line screen TelnetDevice 3279-3 D4C32XX3 ; 32 line screen TelnetDevice 3278-4-E D4C32XX3,D4C32XX3 ; 43 line screen TelnetDevice 3278-4 D4C32XX3,D4C32XX3 ; 43 line screen TelnetDevice 3279-4-E D4C32XX3 ; 43 line screen TelnetDevice 3279-4 D4C32XX3 ; 43 line screen TelnetDevice 3278-5-E D4C32XX3,D4C32XX3 ; 132 column screen TelnetDevice 3278-5 D4C32XX3,D4C32XX3 ; 132 column screen TelnetDevice 3279-5-E D4C32XX3 ; 132 column screen TelnetDevice 3279-5 D4C32XX3 ; 132 column screen TelnetDevice DYNAMIC ,D4C32XX3 ; TelnetDevice 3287-1 ,D4C32XX3 ; -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
ACS and External Drives
We've been modifying the ACS routines to prepare for moving more work into our VTS. We've hit a bit of a snag, though, with DSNs destined for external drives but which will be going inside either the ATL or VTS. IGD330I ERROR OCCURRED DURING CBRXLCS PROCESSING- VOLUME OR VOLUMES SPECIFIED RESIDE OUTSIDE OF A TAPE LIBRARY THE FAILING VOLSER IS 181686 IGD306I UNEXPECTED ERROR DURING CBRXLCS PROCESSING RETURN CODE 12 REASON CODE 52 I'm fairly certain we aren't the first to hit this snag. We could sure use some guidance! TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS PUZZLE
This is a personal choice, but I code each of my segments as follows: when do set write exit end The 'write' stmt starts with some msg id that uniquely identifies the exit point, like 'SCDT0001' and then whatever values I think might be helpful at that point - DSN, DSNTYPE, Unit, etc. This way I always know where the assginment fell out in the code. It saves oh so evermuch time. There are a few times when I want to do a set without an exit because I want it to fall into the remaining code, but even there I have a write. And yes it does generate extra output and I did get some resistance when I moved to this shop started putting in the statements, but I believe I've convinced the powers that be how useful these statements are when it comes to debugging problems just like this one. ddk ** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where to find classes for VTAM
Yeah, but... Neither course is scheduled, and both have been priced out of range for our purposes. FWIW - Individual Onsite Training is the only option... John Hamman Senior Systems Programmer BlueCross BlueShield of Mississippi 601.664.4410 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark T. Regan, K8MTR [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/29/2008 5:35:54 AM IBM has two listed on their training web site at (watch for URL wrapping) http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03001c/services/learning/ites.wss/us/en?pageType=courses_azsubChapterInd=CsortBy=6subChapter=354 VTAM/APPN Concepts and Implementation VTAM/NCP MSN and SNI Implementation Mark T. Regan, K8MTR CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991) - Original Message From: Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:57:31 PM Subject: Where to find classes for VTAM I am suppose to put to gether some classes for this year. I thought I would like to add VTAM to a list of things I can do. But I cannot seem to find any classes for VTAM, APPN, or EE. Does anyone have any recommendations? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * The information contained in this message, and attachments hereto, may be privileged/confidential, and may contain protected health information that is subject to use and disclosure restrictions under federal law. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the original message and any copy of it from your computer system. All recipients are expected to maintain appropriate protections on the information contained herein. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Secure TN3270
Don't expect same day service. This list is not read every minite of every day by every participant. If there is anyone roosting out there doing so - they must have a lot of time on their hands. It is not a 'chat room' as in interactive. I look at the list once in the moring as I prefer the digest format. As mentioned by someone else, you don't run TLS instead of SSL, they work together as the next level of security. I did this last year under z/OS 1.7. The complete description of the tasks and how-to with examples is in the Redbook Communications Server for z/OS V1R9 TCP/IP Implementation Volume 2: Standard Applications. PUB #is SG24- 7533. This is the latest updates to the process and operating systems. I used the same book at the 1.7 release level. Setting up the zServer side isn't enough. As others have said, you must have a client TN3270 application that can use SSL/TLS. Your certificate exchange is up to your corporate standards with regard to self-signed, management, expiration, etc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Supported Documentation
Does anyone know why IBM refuses to update their documentation any more? Once documentation is shipped, it is never supported. I have had this problem several times in the past few years. The software is not working as documented, but the support center determines the doc is wrong, not the code. They tell me they will put in an untrackable request to update the documentation in a future release. Meanwhile, the current documentation still is incorrect, leading to additional customer problems. I can't be the only one who runs into this issue. Occasionally they will open a DOC apar, but that isn't worth the paper it's written on, since it's impractical to search for DOC apars for every topic in every manual you use. Maybe it sounds like I'm whining, and a couple beers might help, but it won't fix the production outage that occurred because of incorrect documentation. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS PUZZLE
Gilbert, The quotes were placed there by someone in 1989. I tried the esoteric for DISK but the it is flushed by the system. Gilbert Cardenas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:25:31 -0700, willie bunter wrote: Hey Willie, just a couple of thoughts : Is it possible that perhaps there are other esoteric names being used for VALUNIT such as DISK... that aren't being tested? I noticed that the string has quotes around the commas as does the VVIO designation. I assume this was done on purpose? HTH, Gil. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS PUZZLE
Robert,
Thanks for your offer to take a look at the code. I have enclosed it. I
hope you can find the bug.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Richards, Robert B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Willie,
No, the unit is not the problem, as it is valid in both tests. Your
logic must honor (ie, allow) specific dataset placement when a volser is
coded. It may be part of a compound test.
Most of the time, the ACS routines rely on the coder knowing the
sequence of the logic tests and coding them appropriately for the test
desired. Without seeing more of your SC routine, I would be speculating
on the correct answer.
If you want to send it to me, I'll take a look.
Also, my personal preference is to use DO-END loops that SET the SC and
then EXIT when a test is satisfied. YMMV
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Subject: SMS PUZZLE
Hallo Everybody,
I am trying to track down why some dsns with the HLQ of TEST.** are
being directed to a non-SMS volume. I noticed that a majority of the
dsns are being allocated correctly by SMS. I ran a check on the ACS
routines and I found that the SC ACS has a storage class set for TEST.**
I also noticed that is another storage class for unit types. Could
this be the cause? I executed some tests where I used the unit=3390,
the dsn (TEST.AAA.BB) was then allocated with the proper storage class
and storage group. However, when I used the unit=3390 with the volser
of a non-SMS pack, the dsn (TEST.AAA.CC) was allocated on the pack
Below is a sample of the SC ACS.
FILTLIST VALUNIT INCLUDE
('3380','SYSDA','SYSALLDA','3390','PUBLIC',VVIO','PROD','TEST''' )
FILTLIST GDVX_DSN INCLUDE
(LIBR.**, SCPX.SYST.*.VSAMEXT.**,
TEST.**,TEST1.**,ALQTOPR.**,
.
.))
WHEN (UNIT NE VALUNIT)
SET STORCLAS = ''
WHEN (HLQ = POOL_GDVX OR DSN = GDVX_DSN)
SET STORCLAS = 'SCTEST'
Am I on the right track in thinking that the SC VALUNIT is the cause
of the problem? If so, how can I fix it? I would appreciate your
suggestion and comments.
Thanks in advance.
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//
/* TESTER GMKT AVANT LES FICHIERS TEMPORAIRES D.D. 20080125 */
/* AJOUT GMIGR.** D.D. 20070831 */
/* AJOUT GDISIDMS D.D. 20070712 */
/* AJOUT STEM.** AU POOL GPRX_DSN E.P. 20070420 */
/* MODIF GPRT_DSN ET GPRX_DSN D.D. 20070322 */
/* AJOUT CTRELGDA DANS GDIS_DSN D.D. 20070223 */
/* CREEIDMSDB.*.DMLO.PROFILE C.R. 20061020 */
/* DANS : GTSO_SAUF (DIRIGE VERS POOL GIDM**)C.R. 20061020 */
/* AJOUT GINP* DANS VOL_BANQ (NON-SMS) C.R. 20061017 */
/* AJOUT UCAT.TEST ET UCAT.PUB DANS CAT_DSN D.D. 20060806 */
/* AJOUT GPRT_DSN ET SCPRSTD3 A.B. 20060224 */
/* ...RECUPERE CODE FILTLIST ROUTINE SG088 A.B. 20060224 */
/* AJOUT TRAITEMENT FICHIERS INSTALL.** ET DATAALL.** A.B. 20060113 */
/* AUCUN CHANGEMENT POUR SC087D.D. 20051007 */
/* NE PAS ASSIGNER DE STORAGECLASS AUX FICHIERS D.D. 20050915 */
/* SUIVANTS : PBANQ.MISNT.**, D.D. 20050915 */
/*TEST.MISNT.**,IDMSBD.MISNT.** D.D. 20050915 */
/* FAIRE TEST GDAPP APRES TEST VTSD.D. 20050630 */
/* RETRAIT BELLPSC.PSC.PS416HAI S.C. 20050506 */
/* RETRAIT BELLPSK.PSN.PS416HAI S.C. 20050506 */
/* RETRAIT PERSONAL.MARITIME.TEL S.C. 20050506 */
/* AUCUN CHANGEMENT POUR SC083A.B. 20050107 */
/* RETRAIT DISQUES GLOG* C.R. 20041126 */
/* AUCUN
Re: Supported Documentation
Hmm, I think a couple of beers is in order for you, Happy Hour Friday is still a few days away. I've sent them updates on a few documentation issues that need to be corrected, and lo and behold, they have actually updated it with the next update to the manual, and if the problem is enough gto warrant it, they open a DOC or informational apar on it. - Original Message - From: Martin Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:12 AM Subject: Supported Documentation Does anyone know why IBM refuses to update their documentation any more? Once documentation is shipped, it is never supported. I have had this problem several times in the past few years. The software is not working as documented, but the support center determines the doc is wrong, not the code. They tell me they will put in an untrackable request to update the documentation in a future release. Meanwhile, the current documentation still is incorrect, leading to additional customer problems. I can't be the only one who runs into this issue. Occasionally they will open a DOC apar, but that isn't worth the paper it's written on, since it's impractical to search for DOC apars for every topic in every manual you use. Maybe it sounds like I'm whining, and a couple beers might help, but it won't fix the production outage that occurred because of incorrect documentation. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS PUZZLE
Neil, Ther VALUNIT GDVX are in the same select statement. The VALUNIT is placed before the GDVX. There is FILTLIST VOL_NONSMS. However the FILTLIST does not contain any TEST.** HLQs. : WHEN (ANYVOL = VOL_NONSMS OR HLQ = HLQ_NONSMS) SET STORCLAS = '' It is also part of the same SELECT statement and it precedes the GDVX WHEN statement. Neil Duffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If both of these WHEN statements are part of the same SELECT, then VALUNIT will take precedence over GDVX_... since only *one* condition results from a SELECT. However, 3390 is a member of the FiltList so (UNIT NE VALUNIT) is false and not selected. Are there other WHEN options in the same SELECT that match ie. (VOL EQ NOT_SMS)? Not directly obvious in SMS but DISP=MOD,VOL=SER=xxx will bypass ACS and use the specified volume. (when no catalogue entry is found) There's some verbiage about it in the DISP= section of the JCL Reference manual. [Got stung with this one when I moved production datasets to SMS managed. My ACS ignored VOL values but 2-3 jobs were using MOD with VolSer=. That's were an obsolete-type SG pool comes into play. I placed all those names in the SG and, magically, they were now considered SMS datasets.] -- signature = 6 lines follows -- Neil Duffee, Joe SysProg, U d'Ottawa, Ottawa, Ont, Canada telephone:1 613 562 5800 x4585 fax:1 613 562 5161 mailto:NDuffee of uOttawa.ca http:/ /aix1.uottawa.ca/ ~nduffee How *do* you plan for something like that? Guardian Bob, Reboot For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism. Systems Programming: Guilty, until proven innocent John Norgauer 2004 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Chargeback for zIIP zAAP Usage
Ted -- I also would lean towards C. Some sort of discount. I also think the rate for general CPU could be lowered due to zXXP engines (I borrow Kathy Walsh's shorthand). Your *users* do not necessarily have control over whether there work goes to zXXP or not. Some of this depends on how many zXXP you have installed and available in LPARs relative to the amount of work that could use the zXXP. If you lower the general CPU rate you are passing on some of the platform's lower TCO with zXXP to *all* the users/customers. If you carry this far enough you lower the general CPU rate, and then you could use your option A. The same as for regular CPU.! Al Sherkow, I/S Management Strategies, Ltd. Consulting Expertise on Capacity Planning, Performance Tuning, WLC, LPARs, IRD and LCS Software Seminars on IBM SW Pricing, LPARs, and IRD Voice: +1 414 332-3062 Web: www.sherkow.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Supported Documentation
But the next update to the manual doesn't occur until the release currently under development or later. Even IBM's online doc doesn't get updated for currently supported releases. I've sent them updates on a few documentation issues that need to be corrected, and lo and behold, they have actually updated it with the next update to the manual, and if the problem is enough gto warrant it, they open a DOC or informational apar on it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Supported Documentation
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Kline Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Supported Documentation Does anyone know why IBM refuses to update their documentation any more? Once documentation is shipped, it is never supported. I have had this problem several times in the past few years. The software is not working as documented, but the support center determines the doc is wrong, not the code. They tell me they will put in an untrackable request to update the documentation in a future release. Meanwhile, the current documentation still is incorrect, leading to additional customer problems. I can't be the only one who runs into this issue. Occasionally they will open a DOC apar, but that isn't worth the paper it's written on, since it's impractical to search for DOC apars for every topic in every manual you use. Maybe it sounds like I'm whining, and a couple beers might help, but it won't fix the production outage that occurred because of incorrect documentation. snip Choir -- preaching. Yes, I have the picture, but IBM management somehow doesn't. Notice that the PoOP does get new dash numbers. So do certain other manuals that do not depend on software development cycles. DOC errors and fixing seem to not be viewed as a defect that must be fixed. So this means that there is a Lack of budget which to me is Poor planning, or the ubiquitous PC mentality where the doc is updated on some obscure site that the users are supposed to know about (something about tech notes, but some how each group has their own) -- but is not attached to the Library site that we all seem to go to to down load the latest... Regards, Steve Thompson -- All opinions expressed by me are my own and may not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
OMEGAMON XE for Mainframe Networks
I would like hear from anyone on this list who has experience of installing the OMEGAMON XE suite of products. We have tried repeatedly to get various components 'fit for purpose' in our production environment but have always encountered problems with the documentation, and the packaging of the software. We have abandoned everything except the Mainframe for Networks component in favour of non-IBM equivalent software, and are on the verge of giving up with the networking software. We sometimes get it working and then we apply SMP/E fixes to the z/OS part or a fixpack to the Windoze version of ITM V6.1 and find that it is broken again. IBM just keep telling us that they have numerous customers who have the product up and running. What is the general concensus of opinion? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where to find classes for VTAM
I've been trying to get two of my Systems Programmers into a VTAM class for over a year and a half with no success. I've had them registered for scheduled classes that were eventually cancelled because they didn't make. I just guess there isn't a lot of interest in VTAM anymore... If I can get one scheduled locally, I'll let you know because we will probably need warm bodies to get the class to make. Charles S. Kammer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Hamman Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where to find classes for VTAM Yeah, but... Neither course is scheduled, and both have been priced out of range for our purposes. FWIW - Individual Onsite Training is the only option... John Hamman Senior Systems Programmer BlueCross BlueShield of Mississippi 601.664.4410 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark T. Regan, K8MTR [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/29/2008 5:35:54 AM IBM has two listed on their training web site at (watch for URL wrapping) http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03001c/services/learning/ites.wss/us/en?pageTy pe=courses_azsubChapterInd=CsortBy=6subChapter=354 VTAM/APPN Concepts and Implementation VTAM/NCP MSN and SNI Implementation Mark T. Regan, K8MTR CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991) - Original Message From: Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:57:31 PM Subject: Where to find classes for VTAM I am suppose to put to gether some classes for this year. I thought I would like to add VTAM to a list of things I can do. But I cannot seem to find any classes for VTAM, APPN, or EE. Does anyone have any recommendations? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * The information contained in this message, and attachments hereto, may be privileged/confidential, and may contain protected health information that is subject to use and disclosure restrictions under federal law. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the original message and any copy of it from your computer system. All recipients are expected to maintain appropriate protections on the information contained herein. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Emulators (again ...)
x3270 (and c3270) are open source run great under either Linux or Windows (XP, Vista) under cygwin. Here are some install instructions for x3270 on the Mac: http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/x3270.html Although I never remaped the Enter key to the right location (right Cntl key). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Emulators (again ...)
I also use x3270 on Fedora Core 6, no problems, works great I do development on a remote z/OS system. Scott Ford Senior Host Developer | Forging Enterprise Identity | IdentityForge.com (Main) 678.266.3399 x304 | (Cell) 609.346.0399 | (Fax) 678.266.3399 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain priviledged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Alcock Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 11:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Emulators (again ...) x3270 (and c3270) are open source run great under either Linux or Windows (XP, Vista) under cygwin. Here are some install instructions for x3270 on the Mac: http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/x3270.html Although I never remaped the Enter key to the right location (right Cntl key). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Supported Documentation
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:12:53 -0500, Martin Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They tell me they will put in an untrackable request to update the documentation in a future release. Alternatively, you can send in the request yourself (check the book for suggestions on how to send in reader's comments) and then you have something track. -- Walt Farrell, CISSP IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS PUZZLE
WHEN (ANYVOL = VOL_NONSMS OR HLQ = HLQ_NONSMS) SET STORCLAS = '' -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Supported Documentation
Does anyone know why IBM refuses to update their documentation any more? When I were a lad (back in the day) IBM used to mail out Technical News Letters (TNLs) on real dead-tree PAPER (gasp!) that you could insert in the proper place in your 3 ring binder PAPER copy of each manual. Those changes could occur anywhere in the lifecycle of a product release. I always went to the trouble of inserted TNLs in the right place. Most folks just inserted the TNLs at the front or back of the binder, but even so those old paper manuals were kept more or less up to date. Now we have the capability of accurately changing the electronic versions at a moment's notice. However as far as I can tell, the doc set only changes on release boundaries and changes often lag a release or more behind the software. But IBM swears it still cares about its customers. Go figure. CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Secure TN3270
The SSL piece for z/OS is not that difficult, but you do have to understand what is the end objective. Is it an end-to-end secure connection ? Just for TN3270 or for all connections ? I worked in brokerage for awhile and we were Testing TN3270E using certificates and keyrings. Regards, Scott Ford Senior Host Developer | Forging Enterprise Identity | IdentityForge.com (Main) 678.266.3399 x304 | (Cell) 609.346.0399 | (Fax) 678.266.3399 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain priviledged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Betsy Jeffery Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Secure TN3270 Don't expect same day service. This list is not read every minite of every day by every participant. If there is anyone roosting out there doing so - they must have a lot of time on their hands. It is not a 'chat room' as in interactive. I look at the list once in the moring as I prefer the digest format. As mentioned by someone else, you don't run TLS instead of SSL, they work together as the next level of security. I did this last year under z/OS 1.7. The complete description of the tasks and how-to with examples is in the Redbook Communications Server for z/OS V1R9 TCP/IP Implementation Volume 2: Standard Applications. PUB #is SG24- 7533. This is the latest updates to the process and operating systems. I used the same book at the 1.7 release level. Setting up the zServer side isn't enough. As others have said, you must have a client TN3270 application that can use SSL/TLS. Your certificate exchange is up to your corporate standards with regard to self-signed, management, expiration, etc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Supported Documentation
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Re: Supported Documentation
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:14:18 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote: On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:12:53 -0500, Martin Kline wrote: They tell me they will put in an untrackable request to update the documentation in a future release. Alternatively, you can send in the request yourself (check the book for suggestions on how to send in reader's comments) and then you have something track. And what help is that to the submitter's peers who are apt to encounter the same problem? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Emulators (again ...)
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:54:51 -0700, David Alcock wrote: x3270 (and c3270) are open source run great under either Linux or Windows (XP, Vista) under cygwin. Here are some install instructions for x3270 on the Mac: http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/x3270.html That page contains much outdated and superfluous information about installing developer tools and X11, which are now a selectable option on installation. And the parent page: http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/ ... mentions DiCamillo's 3270 X, which provides more comfortable (however idiosyncratic) copy/paste support. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS PUZZLE
You have a special test against DSNs that begin with TEST.MISNT and mark
these datasets non-SMS. This test occurs before your test for TEST.**
so datasets that meet the first test never get processed by the second.
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From: willie bunter [snip]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:41 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMS PUZZLE
Robert,
Thanks for your offer to take a look at the code. I have enclosed it.
I hope you can find the bug.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Richards, Robert B.
Willie,
No, the unit is not the problem, as it is valid in both tests. Your
logic must honor (ie, allow) specific dataset placement when a volser is
coded. It may be part of a compound test.
Most of the time, the ACS routines rely on the coder knowing the
sequence of the logic tests and coding them appropriately for the test
desired. Without seeing more of your SC routine, I would be speculating
on the correct answer.
If you want to send it to me, I'll take a look.
Also, my personal preference is to use DO-END loops that SET the SC and
then EXIT when a test is satisfied. YMMV
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Subject: SMS PUZZLE
Hallo Everybody,
I am trying to track down why some dsns with the HLQ of TEST.** are
being directed to a non-SMS volume. I noticed that a majority of the
dsns are being allocated correctly by SMS. I ran a check on the ACS
routines and I found that the SC ACS has a storage class set for TEST.**
I also noticed that is another storage class for unit types. Could this
be the cause? I executed some tests where I used the unit=3390, the dsn
(TEST.AAA.BB) was then allocated with the proper storage class and
storage group. However, when I used the unit=3390 with the volser of a
non-SMS pack, the dsn (TEST.AAA.CC) was allocated on the pack Below is a
sample of the SC ACS.
FILTLIST VALUNIT INCLUDE
('3380','SYSDA','SYSALLDA','3390','PUBLIC',VVIO','PROD','TEST''' )
FILTLIST GDVX_DSN INCLUDE
(LIBR.**, SCPX.SYST.*.VSAMEXT.**,
TEST.**,TEST1.**,ALQTOPR.**,
.
.))
WHEN (UNIT NE VALUNIT)
SET STORCLAS = ''
WHEN (HLQ = POOL_GDVX OR DSN = GDVX_DSN) SET STORCLAS = 'SCTEST'
Am I on the right track in thinking that the SC VALUNIT is the cause of
the problem? If so, how can I fix it? I would appreciate your suggestion
and comments.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Supported Documentation
Gil wrote: And what help is that to the submitter's peers who are apt to encounter the same problem? That's exactly why updated doc should be made available. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Delete a printer in jes
Hi I added a printer in jes and now I am stating delete it. Someone knows how to delete a printer in jes? I looked in the manual jes commands and not found. thanks -- Hélio José da Silva Depto. Software Básico -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS PUZZLE
WHEN (ANYVOL = VOL_NONSMS OR HLQ = HLQ_NONSMS)
SET STORCLAS = ''
If you try to allocate to any volume that qualifies under VOL_NONSMS, then
this statement will make it nonsms, regardless of the DSN.
willie bunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/29/2008 10:41 AM
Robert,
Thanks for your offer to take a look at the code. I have enclosed it. I
hope you can find the bug.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Richards, Robert B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Willie,
No, the unit is not the problem, as it is valid in both tests. Your
logic must honor (ie, allow) specific dataset placement when a volser is
coded. It may be part of a compound test.
Most of the time, the ACS routines rely on the coder knowing the
sequence of the logic tests and coding them appropriately for the test
desired. Without seeing more of your SC routine, I would be speculating
on the correct answer.
If you want to send it to me, I'll take a look.
Also, my personal preference is to use DO-END loops that SET the SC and
then EXIT when a test is satisfied. YMMV
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of willie bunter
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:26 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: SMS PUZZLE
Hallo Everybody,
I am trying to track down why some dsns with the HLQ of TEST.** are
being directed to a non-SMS volume. I noticed that a majority of the
dsns are being allocated correctly by SMS. I ran a check on the ACS
routines and I found that the SC ACS has a storage class set for TEST.**
I also noticed that is another storage class for unit types. Could
this be the cause? I executed some tests where I used the unit=3390,
the dsn (TEST.AAA.BB) was then allocated with the proper storage class
and storage group. However, when I used the unit=3390 with the volser
of a non-SMS pack, the dsn (TEST.AAA.CC) was allocated on the pack
Below is a sample of the SC ACS.
FILTLIST VALUNIT INCLUDE
('3380','SYSDA','SYSALLDA','3390','PUBLIC',VVIO','PROD','TEST''' )
FILTLIST GDVX_DSN INCLUDE
(LIBR.**, SCPX.SYST.*.VSAMEXT.**,
TEST.**,TEST1.**,ALQTOPR.**,
...
...))
WHEN (UNIT NE VALUNIT)
SET STORCLAS = ''
WHEN (HLQ = POOL_GDVX OR DSN = GDVX_DSN)
SET STORCLAS = 'SCTEST'
Am I on the right track in thinking that the SC VALUNIT is the cause
of the problem? If so, how can I fix it? I would appreciate your
suggestion and comments.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: MVS booklist again
I'vs got some of the books you are looking for. Reply privately and make me an offer if you are interested. All books are hardback and in good condition unless otherwise indicated. MVS Systems Programming MVS Control Blocks MVS I/O Subsystems - highlighted Advanced Assembler Language and MVS Interfaces - paperback Also, The System Programmer's Problem Solver, Introduction to SNA Networking, and 3 versions of MVS Performance Management (oldest highlighted, z/OS version printed PDF). Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:37:30 -0500, SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Neo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We hercules crowd still call for help. Anyone can offer help accessing these good old precious? MVS/Extended Architecture Overview GC28-1348 MVS Sytem Programming MVS Control Blocks z/OS System Services Structure MVS I/O Subsystems - Congifuration Management and Performance Analysis Invitation to MVS Logic and Debugging z/OS (MVS) Primer Carmine Canatello's book Dave Elder-Vass's book -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
RES: Delete a printer in jes
Hélio, I think you need a warm start (IPL). Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto Banco Bradesco S/A 4254/DPCD Alphaville Engenharia de Software - Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: 55 11 4197-2021 Fax: 55 11 4197-2814 |-Mensagem original- |De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de HELIO |Enviada em: terça-feira, 29 de abril de 2008 15:31 |Para: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU |Assunto: Delete a printer in jes | |Hi | |I added a printer in jes and now I am stating delete it. | |Someone knows how to delete a printer in jes? |I looked in the manual jes commands and not found. | |thanks | |-- |Hélio José da Silva |Depto. Software Básico | |-- |For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access |instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the |message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at |http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html | | HTMLfont face=Tahoma size=1HRAVISO LEGAL brEsta mensagem é destinada exclusivamente para a(s) pessoa(s) a quem é dirigida, podendo conter informação confidencial e/ou legalmente privilegiada. Se você não for destinatário desta mensagem, desde já fica notificado de abster-se a divulgar, copiar, distribuir, examinar ou, de qualquer forma, utilizar a informação contida nesta mensagem, por ser ilegal. Caso você tenha recebido esta mensagem por engano, pedimos que nos retorne este E-Mail, promovendo, desde logo, a eliminação do seu conteúdo em sua base de dados, registros ou sistema de controle. Fica desprovida de eficácia e validade a mensagem que contiver vínculos obrigacionais, expedida por quem não detenha poderes de representação. HTMLfont face=Tahoma size=1HRLEGAL ADVICE brThis message is exclusively destined for the people to whom it is directed, and it can bear private and/or legally exceptional information. If you are not addressee of this message, since now you are advised to not release, copy, distribute, check or, otherwise, use the information contained in this message, because it is illegal. If you received this message by mistake, we ask you to return this email, making possible, as soon as possible, the elimination of its contents of your database, registrations or controls system. The message that bears any mandatory links, issued by someone who has no representation powers, shall be null or void. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Delete a printer in jes
I use this command to remove a printer. To DELETE A PRINTER TO JES2 $DEL DESTID(1) 1 = printer name How did you add the printer? Frank W Sabo Jr. SR. Systems Administrator Giant Eagle Inc. Phone: 412 967-3764 Fax:412 967-6120 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: RES: Delete a printer in jes Hélio, I think you need a warm start (IPL). Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto Banco Bradesco S/A 4254/DPCD Alphaville Engenharia de Software - Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: 55 11 4197-2021 Fax: 55 11 4197-2814 |-Mensagem original- |De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de HELIO Enviada em: terça-feira, |29 de abril de 2008 15:31 |Para: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU |Assunto: Delete a printer in jes | |Hi | |I added a printer in jes and now I am stating delete it. | |Someone knows how to delete a printer in jes? |I looked in the manual jes commands and not found. | |thanks | |-- |Hélio José da Silva |Depto. Software Básico | |-- |For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send |email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the |message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at |http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html | | HTMLfont face=Tahoma size=1HRAVISO LEGAL brEsta mensagem é destinada exclusivamente para a(s) pessoa(s) a quem é dirigida, podendo conter informação confidencial e/ou legalmente privilegiada. Se você não for destinatário desta mensagem, desde já fica notificado de abster-se a divulgar, copiar, distribuir, examinar ou, de qualquer forma, utilizar a informação contida nesta mensagem, por ser ilegal. Caso você tenha recebido esta mensagem por engano, pedimos que nos retorne este E-Mail, promovendo, desde logo, a eliminação do seu conteúdo em sua base de dados, registros ou sistema de controle. Fica desprovida de eficácia e validade a mensagem que contiver vínculos obrigacionais, expedida por quem não detenha poderes de representação. HTMLfont face=Tahoma size=1HRLEGAL ADVICE brThis message is exclusively destined for the people to whom it is directed, and it can bear private and/or legally exceptional information. If you are not addressee of this message, since now you are advised to not release, copy, distribute, check or, otherwise, use the information contained in this message, because it is illegal. If you received this message by mistake, we ask you to return this email, making possible, as soon as possible, the elimination of its contents of your database, registrations or controls system. The message that bears any mandatory links, issued by someone who has no representation powers, shall be null or void. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OMEGAMON XE for Mainframe Networks
As the performance analyst/capacity planner here I use the products. I don't install them. However, I was part of the team here that was charged with getting them up and running. We started in October of 2006 to put in several of the Tivoli/Omegamon products. We already had the products from Candle for MVS, CICS, and DB2 monitoring. We added the MQ Series product to the mainframe and also installed agents for AIX OS, MQ Series, MQ Broker, WAS, Oracle, and DB2/UDB on our pSeries systems. We then connected everything together via the TEPS, TEMS, etc. We had terrible problems at first, but we just kept opening up problem records with IBM and pounding on them until they got the issues resolved. It took us almost a year before everything was working decently. Now we are using the products successfully to alert the operations staff to problems and we're working on doing capacity planning from the data in the Tivoli Historical Data Warehouse. If you're have serious issues you need to bug your IBM rep to death until he gets the correct IBM technical staff to help you. Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Gladstone Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: OMEGAMON XE for Mainframe Networks I would like hear from anyone on this list who has experience of installing the OMEGAMON XE suite of products. We have tried repeatedly to get various components 'fit for purpose' in our production environment but have always encountered problems with the documentation, and the packaging of the software. We have abandoned everything except the Mainframe for Networks component in favour of non-IBM equivalent software, and are on the verge of giving up with the networking software. We sometimes get it working and then we apply SMP/E fixes to the z/OS part or a fixpack to the Windoze version of ITM V6.1 and find that it is broken again. IBM just keep telling us that they have numerous customers who have the product up and running. What is the general concensus of opinion? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where to find classes for VTAM
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:57:22 -0500, Kammer, Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I just guess there isn't a lot of interest in VTAM anymore... And yet the APPN and EE sessions are always pretty well attended at SHARE. There probably is no market for a VTAM/NCP course, but there probably is for a VTAM/APPN course. But the market is small at any one time and for any one level of experience. IBM (or some other company) would be smart to develop a set of web-based classes giving VTAM basics for the MVS system programmer APPN basics for people that have VTAM basics Enterprise Extender basics for those with basic APPN knowledge Basic SNA problem determination and solution APPN / EE problem determination and solution Actually, I'd be surprised if that hadn't already been done. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Delete a printer in jes
Frank, I used the command of jes: $add prt. Sabo, Frank escreveu: I use this command to remove a printer. To DELETE A PRINTER TO JES2 $DEL DESTID(1) 1 = printer name How did you add the printer? Frank W Sabo Jr. SR. Systems Administrator Giant Eagle Inc. Phone: 412 967-3764 Fax:412 967-6120 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: RES: Delete a printer in jes Hélio, I think you need a warm start (IPL). Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto Banco Bradesco S/A 4254/DPCD Alphaville Engenharia de Software - Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: 55 11 4197-2021 Fax: 55 11 4197-2814 |-Mensagem original- |De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de HELIO Enviada em: terça-feira, |29 de abril de 2008 15:31 |Para: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU |Assunto: Delete a printer in jes | |Hi | |I added a printer in jes and now I am stating delete it. | |Someone knows how to delete a printer in jes? |I looked in the manual jes commands and not found. | |thanks | |-- |Hélio José da Silva |Depto. Software Básico | |-- |For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send |email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the |message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at |http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html | | HTMLfont face=Tahoma size=1HRAVISO LEGAL brEsta mensagem é destinada exclusivamente para a(s) pessoa(s) a quem é dirigida, podendo conter informação confidencial e/ou legalmente privilegiada. Se você não for destinatário desta mensagem, desde já fica notificado de abster-se a divulgar, copiar, distribuir, examinar ou, de qualquer forma, utilizar a informação contida nesta mensagem, por ser ilegal. Caso você tenha recebido esta mensagem por engano, pedimos que nos retorne este E-Mail, promovendo, desde logo, a eliminação do seu conteúdo em sua base de dados, registros ou sistema de controle. Fica desprovida de eficácia e validade a mensagem que contiver vínculos obrigacionais, expedida por quem não detenha poderes de representação. HTMLfont face=Tahoma size=1HRLEGAL ADVICE brThis message is exclusively destined for the people to whom it is directed, and it can bear private and/or legally exceptional information. If you are not addressee of this message, since now you are advised to not release, copy, distribute, check or, otherwise, use the information contained in this message, because it is illegal. If you received this message by mistake, we ask you to return this email, making possible, as soon as possible, the elimination of its contents of your database, registrations or controls system. The message that bears any mandatory links, issued by someone who has no representation powers, shall be null or void. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Hélio José da Silva Depto. Software Básico -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where to find classes for VTAM
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:40:36 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:57:22 -0500, Kammer, Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I just guess there isn't a lot of interest in VTAM anymore... And yet the APPN and EE sessions are always pretty well attended at SHARE. There probably is no market for a VTAM/NCP course, but there probably is for a VTAM/APPN course. But the market is small at any one time and for any one level of experience. IBM (or some other company) would be smart to develop a set of web-based classes giving VTAM basics for the MVS system programmer APPN basics for people that have VTAM basics Enterprise Extender basics for those with basic APPN knowledge Basic SNA problem determination and solution APPN / EE problem determination and solution Actually, I'd be surprised if that hadn't already been done. ADG (James E. Anderson) taught some excellent VTAM classes in the past and IIRC he also taught CICS classes. I took one in 1996 (one of the few formal education opportunities I had in my career prior to my current employer).One of the best parts of the classes were the small VTAM booklets Jim gave you as part of the class (similar to the OS/VS2 debugging handbooks mentioned recently in this forum). After the class I kept in touch with Jim and even got him a gig teaching an on-site class at one of my clients (which I was allowed to attend for free - although I could not bill my client for the time :-) ). I think attendance dropped off to the point where he could no longer teach the classes and last I heard from him (which was quite a few years ago) he was doing assembler programming for some ISV (I don't recall which one). Jim, if you are out there... Hello! Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3277 terminals and emulators
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/21/2008 at 02:14 PM, Steele, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is the S/3 actually co-ax, or is it twin-ax like the s/34, s/38 /as/400 family that it spawned? I'd blame the S/34 on the S/3, but not the S/38. The S/38 was an outgrowth of the FS project. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: action in UK33496
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/21/2008 at 11:15 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Every well-designed language, application, programming system should have a way to force an error. IDCAMS has such; HLASM has MNOTE; zSeries has x'00'. No; a program check with PIC 1 might not be an error, and I've seen code that uses it as a normal event. Rexx lacks such; Are you a betting man? I resort to dividing by zero or accessing an uninitialized variable to force an error. Aren't you contradicting yourself? If you've discovered two ways to force an error then there is a way. BTW, why not use SIGNAL? As a courtesy, the vendor should partition the name space and commit to leaving some fraction available for user-defined macros and promising that no new OP code or macro will intrude on the space ceded to users. I'd like that. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NJE / RJE from REMOTE WINDOWS/UNIX ?
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/28/2008 at 03:32 PM, Tsai Laurence [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: questions as the subject, is it doable ? Contact Sine Nomine Associates for an NJE product that runs over TCP/IP. There are older remote batch products that support BSC and SNA. but you'd need EP for the former and even the latter might require hardware that you don't have or want to get rid of. Even if the connectivity isn't an issue, going the NJE route will give you more flexibility. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: REXX Error (Was: action in UK33496)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/21/2008 at 09:18 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Reference to an uninitialized variable is a failure. Only if NOVALUE is enabled. The classic behavior with NOVALUE disabled is useful. I have _never_ coded a SIGNAL. Partly hangover from the 3 decades ago GOTO considered harmful days; partly from needing to read and sometimes maintain spaghetti code from programmers who branch around their programs using SIGNAL with wild abandon, SIGNAL is not GOTO; those who code as though it is will inevitably shoot themselves in the foot, but may take you down with them. Please not that some people can code FORTRAN in any language. And SIGNAL mixes with CALL and DO like oil and water. Not if you use it only for its intended purpose. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: action in UK33496
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/21/2008 at 11:30 AM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I would, sort of, like HLASM to implement namespaces. My idea would be something along the lines of it working like it does today, with one addition. Where you can currently place either a macro name (opcode field), or as part of the parameter (member name) of the COPY, be able to specify a DD name which is used instead of SYSLIB to resolve the macro or copy statement. Eg COPYCALIB:MSG or CALIB:MSG 'THIS IS A MESSAGE FROM A CA PRODUCT',other parms I'd like name spaces, but I wouldn't want them syntactically tied to ddnames. I'd prefer some sort of qualified names, with pseudo-ops to establish default qualifications. IBMAP had a nice facility, except that it didn't extend to macro or op code names. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: REXX Error (Was: action in UK33496)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/23/2008 at 12:04 AM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: LEAVE ITERATE only manage the current level. Hogwash! -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: action in UK33496
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/21/2008 at 07:56 AM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: IIRC, IBM has stated that an opcode of x'00' will __never__ be valid and will __always__ produce a program check interrupt code 1 (S0C1 in MVS-speak). S0C1 is S0C1 in MVS speak; program check interrupt code 1 is not. There's lots of code that would break if it got an ABEND when it was expecting a program check. However, I had a friend at another shop do this. He got a royal dressing down by the lead sysprog because he (the sysprog) had decided that the S0C3 abend was his alone and had placed a SLIP in COMMNDnn to take SVC dumps on every S0C3 to debug __his__ programs. And didn't document it because? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Subject:Linux on System z Performance Update- Apr 30 - Live Virtual Class For readers of IBMVM, Linux390, and IBMMAIN who are interested in Linux on System z Performance. Just a reminder that the next Linux on System z Live Virtual Class is on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 11:00 AM EDT US Canada Title:Linux on System z Performance Update Speakers: Mario Held, Martin Kammerer and Holger Wolf who are from IBM Lab Boeblingen and work on System z - System Performance Evaluation, Abstract (Updated 4/16/08): This presentation gives a short introduction into general aspects of System z hardware. It then focuses on performance data obtained with Linux on System z measurements. The results are discussed showing the performance exploitation of IBM hardware. The topics are: z10, disk I/O, cryptographic support, networking, compiler, Java, and CPU hotplug. Time: 11:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time (New York) 10:00 AM Central Daylight Time London 4:00 PM, Frankfurt 5:00 PM, Moscow 7:00PM Duration: 75 minutes TimeZone: Click on: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html to use the World Clock to translate the time for this meeting to your local time. Open to Linux on System z, z/VM, z/OS and z/VSE Customers, IBM System z Technical Sales, and System z Business Partners. There is no charge to participate in this technical education session. How to attend: Connect to the Live Virtual Class (LVC) session using the following URL: URL: https://asp22.centra.com:443/GA/main/01acee7801191d04e13b8ecb OR Connect using the LVC link provided from the z/VM Website at: http://www.vm.ibm.com/education/lvc You can connect to the LVC session up to 10 minutes prior to the start of the session. You do not have to pre-register to attend the webcast, but you will need to enter your email to join the call. The REPLAY will be available on the web using the same connect URL approximately 4 hours after the event. If you are unable to connect to the Live Virtual Class session, you can download the presentation from the z/VM LVC website the day before the webcast and listen to the audio portion of the session via telephone using the following: Teleconference Information Toll free : 1-888-240-4148 International:1-719-234-0214 Access Code: 736296 Note: use of the telephone connection does not provide capability for you to ask questions during the session. Replays: As a reminder, the 2007/2008 Live Virtual Classes are available for replay from the z/VM website at: http://www.vm.ibm.com/education/lvc Please direct any questions about this LVC to Julie Liesenfelt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Pam C P.S. Note that Julie and I have forwarded your comments to the education/training folks about Centra and Linux workstations. The irony such that it is. :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3277 terminals and emulators
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:08:28 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Is the S/3 actually co-ax, or is it twin-ax like the s/34, s/38 /as/400 family that it spawned? I'd blame the S/34 on the S/3, but not the S/38. The S/38 was an outgrowth of the FS project. ... I thought the AS/400 grew out of the 8100, but I suppose it may have had mixed parentage. (Or I may be remembering wrong.) Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3277 terminals and emulators
I'd blame the S/34 on the S/3, but not the S/38. The S/38 was an outgrowth of the FS project. ... I thought the AS/400 grew out of the 8100, but I suppose it may have had mixed parentage. (Or I may be remembering wrong.) The FS project begat the System/38 The System/38 begat the AS/400 (Silverlake) circa 87? 88? However, IIRC at the time IBM claimed the AS/400 was able to run both S/36 and S/38 applications - typically RPG stuff anyway. CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Slowly biting the dust.... IBM scalable... but only so far
Well, it had to happen eventually. My shop will lay MVS to rest, but it will probably take a few years. Our parent company is all SAP, and the pressure has been on us to conform. So, I thought Hey, all those articles in z/Journal about Linux and IFL's and zVM !!! Just get the sales guys from big Blue in there, and show how the old dino can keep up with the kids. 'Taint so folks. IBM and the business partners looked at the sizing documents and would not even submit a bid. Said they were not able to compete for the price against open systems. So, we end up going with AIX servers, and run Oracle DB's and SAP. I have not been able to get a clear answer from IBM on this, but it appers from what I can find out to be a matter of size. Currently we are a 300 mip z890, and although we would have to grow to go with the SAP solution, the mainframe/IFL/VM/DB2 solution just cannot compete for the price at this end of the size range. So just where the cut-off is, I am not sure. But I can tell you that it is somewhere above 300 mips. Looks like z/OS 1.8 may be the last MVS level I even install. Hard decision. About 10 years until retirement. Become a DBA, or polish up the resume? Decisions, decisions. Well, What a long, strange trip it's been. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Planned IBMLink Outage April 25 - 26
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 19:09:53 -0500, Joel C. Ewing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our maintenance window would be one point where a software glitch that only surfaced under production load would most likely be a sev 1 issue. This raises concerns for us about how well IBM is equipped to handle a sev 1 problem when their IBMlink infrastructure is undergoing maintenance. IBMLink provides a portal into a variety of backend systems and services (e.g. RETAIN). The Support Center uses the backend systems directly and is unaffected by the loss of IBMLink. This includes problem management, fix development, test, PTF build and shipment. Everyone needs In case of emergency, break glass. Here is the phone number for the Support Center. The phone is that object under the pile of papers. Every 30 days, verify you still have a dial tone. It was used in the Before Times - back before anyone heard of the web or e-mail. It provides a switched point-to-point connection from here to IBM. It remains the most reliable communications mechanism we have. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3277 terminals and emulators
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick O'Keefe) writes: I thought the AS/400 grew out of the 8100, but I suppose it may have had mixed parentage. (Or I may be remembering wrong.) previous post in thread: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#9 3277 terminals and emulators the folklore is that after future system project was terminated http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#futuresys also this old post: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#33 some number retreated to rochester and did the s/38. i've claimed that somewhat in parallel, the 801/risc project went on ... with an objective of going to the exact opposite extreme of future system hardware complexity. http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801 somewhere along the line, a project was started to replace the large variety of internal microprocessors with 801/risc. there was fort knox and iliad chips. One of these iliad efforts was to replace all the microprocessors in entry and mid-range 370s with (801/risc) iliad chips; the 4381 (4341 followon) microprocessor originally started out to be a iliad chip. iliad chip was also going to be used for the as/400 microprocessor (follow-on to the s/38). Both efforts were still born. Custom cisc chips were eventually done for both the 4381 as well as for the as/400. 8100 used a totally different chip, uc.5 ... significantly underpowered. there is old email about the MIT Lisp machine project asking IBM for 801/risc chips for their machine ... and being offered 8100 instead; old email reference: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#email790711 in this post http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#3 Architectural support for programming languages as an aside ... at one point they sent my wife in to audit the 8100 effort and she recommended the whole thing be killed off. much later there was the power/pc project (i.e. somerset, joint with ibm, motorola, apple, et al) ... and as/400 finally did move off a cisc processor to 801/risc (power/pc). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Planned IBMLink Outage April 25 - 26
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Planned IBMLink Outage April 25 - 26 SNIP Everyone needs In case of emergency, break glass. Here is the phone number for the Support Center. The phone is that object under the pile of papers. Every 30 days, verify you still have a dial tone. It was used in the Before Times - back before anyone heard of the web or e-mail. It provides a switched point-to-point connection from here to IBM. It remains the most reliable communications mechanism we have. SNIP Until someone cuts the trunk line between you and the CO (Central Office - Telco speak). Thanks to a tornado, that happened recently and somehow the Internet connections were still functioning (I guess they were fibre and went in a different direction than the copper). -- NO, the tornado didn't do it, someone cleaning up after did it ... -- Belt, suspenders, hands in pockets, and a roll of duct tape. Regards, Steve Thompson -- All opinions expressed by me are my own and may not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Slowly biting the dust.... IBM scalable... but only so far
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, John Mattson wrote: Well, it had to happen eventually. My shop will lay MVS to rest, but it will probably take a few years. Sorry to hear this. Our parent company is all SAP, and the pressure has been on us to conform. So, I thought Hey, all those articles in z/Journal about Linux and IFL's and zVM !!! Just get the sales guys from big Blue in there, and show how the old dino can keep up with the kids. 'Taint so folks. IBM and the business partners looked at the sizing documents and would not even submit a bid. Said they were not able to compete for the price against open systems. So, we end up going with AIX servers, and run Oracle DB's and SAP. Well, it sure beats Intel and Windows! I have not been able to get a clear answer from IBM on this, but it appers from what I can find out to be a matter of size. Currently we are a 300 mip z890, and although we would have to grow to go with the SAP solution, the mainframe/IFL/VM/DB2 solution just cannot compete for the price at this end of the size range. So just where the cut-off is, I am not sure. But I can tell you that it is somewhere above 300 mips. Looks like z/OS 1.8 may be the last MVS level I even install. Hard decision. About 10 years until retirement. Become a DBA, or polish up the resume? Decisions, decisions. On this point, my question would be do you like your current company? If yes, then becoming a DBA could be a good thing. If no, then time to move on. Where I am now, we are supposedly phasing out z/OS as well. But we don't have any kind of actual plan. It's just a direction. Our newest open manager hates Windows and loves AIX. I've been hold that he would like to have the z/OS people learn AIX due to our professionalism. I would like that. I think z/OS is the ultimate OS out there, right now. But AIX (and Linux) are good too. Anything but Windows. I despise Microsoft and think Windows is a perfect example of how to not design an enterprise OS. As a desktop, well it's acceptable. Though I would never give up my Linux desktop to run Windows again (at home). Well, What a long, strange trip it's been. -- Q: What do theoretical physicists drink beer from? A: An EIN stein. Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Supported Documentation
Having read the thread (so far), I have a few comments. (All of this is written assuming that what you want is semi-real-time updates to electronic versions of IBM documentation). 1) Even in the days of hard-copy TNL's, each TNL was reflected in a new dash-level. Do you REALLY want a new dash-level every time a single dox change occurs for a manual? If not, how would users and IBM know that they were looking at the same version of a manual? 2) Currently MANY products do produce new dash-levels of manuals between releases (or to earlier releases that are still in service). If there is a specific product or feature that you think does NOT get updated as frequently as you think it should, then you should let IBM (not IBM-MAIN) know. Ways to do so include RCF's, Marketing requirements, SHARE requirements. (I know that the LNGC project of SHARE accepts documentation-related requirements and assume other projects do as well). 3) If you aren't aware of it, documentation changes require development resources (for review if not authoring). Therefore, the more frequently you want dox changes, the more resources you want pulled from development and maintenance of IBM software. Is this REALLY your priority. 4) Others have mentioned DOC APARs. Are you aware that you can find these easily - without using IBMLink. Check out (for example), http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ZIDOCMS1/CCONTENT S That book is updated quite frequently. Martin Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Does anyone know why IBM refuses to update their documentation any more? Once documentation is shipped, it is never supported. I have had this problem several times in the past few years. The software is not working as documented, but the support center determines the doc is wrong, not the code. They tell me they will put in an untrackable request to update the documentation in a future release. Meanwhile, the current documentation still is incorrect, leading to additional customer problems. I can't be the only one who runs into this issue. Occasionally they will open a DOC apar, but that isn't worth the paper it's written on, since it's impractical to search for DOC apars for every topic in every manual you use. Maybe it sounds like I'm whining, and a couple beers might help, but it won't fix the production outage that occurred because of incorrect documentation. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Planned IBMLink Outage April 25 - 26
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:10:15 -0400, Thompson, Steve wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Planned IBMLink Outage April 25 - 26 SNIP Everyone needs In case of emergency, break glass. Here is the phone number for the Support Center. The phone is that object under the pile of papers. Every 30 days, verify you still have a dial tone. It was used in the Before Times - back before anyone heard of the web or e-mail. It provides a switched point-to-point connection from here to IBM. It remains the most reliable communications mechanism we have. SNIP Did anyone see a phone number, before the snippage? Until someone cuts the trunk line between you and the CO (Central Office - Telco speak). Thanks to a tornado, that happened recently and somehow the Internet connections were still functioning (I guess they were fibre and went in a different direction than the copper). -- NO, the tornado didn't do it, someone cleaning up after did it ... -- The Internet, perhaps FKA DARPANet, was designed with the philosophy of providing alternate paths in case of a nuclear attack. And, The net perceives censorship as damage, and bypasses it. That makes it hard to block spam. Belt, suspenders, hands in pockets, and a roll of duct tape. Perl is the programmer's duct tape. Rexx is the dinosaur's duct tape. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
User key (8) CSA issue ABEND B78-5C running BMC BACKUP AND RECOVERY FOR IMS VERSION 4.2.00
Hi, There is currently no relief available. We hit this one head on at disaster recovery testing. PTFs for SB78-5C failures invoking services of the MAXM Database Advisor will be included in the maintenance release scheduled for August 2008. In the interim, the circumvention is to specify ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(YES) in the DIAGxx member of SYS1.PARMLIB. Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (office) 301.986.3574 Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast... This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Supported Documentation
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:58:24 -0500, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:14:18 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote: On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:12:53 -0500, Martin Kline wrote: They tell me they will put in an untrackable request to update the documentation in a future release. Alternatively, you can send in the request yourself (check the book for suggestions on how to send in reader's comments) and then you have something track. And what help is that to the submitter's peers who are apt to encounter the same problem? It doesn't, until the updated doc gets out on the web (which it can quite quickly if a problem is really severe enough). A DOC APAR would help in the interim, imho, but the OP doesn't seem to agree. -- Walt Farrell, CISSP IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Planned IBMLink Outage April 25 - 26
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:45:27 -0500, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did anyone see a phone number, before the snippage? 1-800-IBM-SERV in the US and Canada. http://www.ibm.com/planetwide Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Supported Documentation
A DOC APAR would help in the interim, imho, but the OP doesn't seem to agree. -- Walt Farrell, CISSP IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design FWIW, I agree with the OP on DOC APARs. I've had many open for years and had to keep banging on IBM to get them incorporated into the manuals. RCF's work better, but I've also had to follow up a lot on those. It really depends on the software group you're dealing with. Some are better than others. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Slowly biting the dust.... IBM scalable... but only so far
John Mattson wrote: Well, it had to happen eventually. My shop will lay MVS to rest, but it will probably take a few years. Our parent company is all SAP, and the pressure has been on us to conform. So, I thought Hey, all those articles in z/Journal about Linux and IFL's and zVM !!! Just get the sales guys from big Blue in there, and show how the old dino can keep up with the kids. 'Taint so folks. IBM and the business partners looked at the sizing documents and would not even submit a bid. Said they were not able to compete for the price against open systems. So, we end up going with AIX servers, and run Oracle DB's and SAP. I have not been able to get a clear answer from IBM on this, but it appers from what I can find out to be a matter of size. Currently we are a 300 mip z890, and although we would have to grow to go with the SAP solution, the mainframe/IFL/VM/DB2 solution just cannot compete for the price at this end of the size range. So just where the cut-off is, I am not sure. But I can tell you that it is somewhere above 300 mips. Looks like z/OS 1.8 may be the last MVS level I even install. Hard decision. About 10 years until retirement. Become a DBA, or polish up the resume? Decisions, decisions. Well, What a long, strange trip it's been. -- How many AIX servers and what size? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
When will ADRDSSU start to ENQUEUE on data sets?
Hi, We encountered a problem on our production system. A job was using DSS to backup a lot of data sets (logical dump) and we got ADR321E for one extended format PS data set: the data set was not on the supposed volume. This job will run more than 3 hours and we found out that another job will delete the data set and re-create it during that time (1.5 hours after the dump job starts). It might be the cause of ADR321E. And from the archive I found a similar thread: It is entirely possible that when DFDSS was building his process list the dataset was on the volume. Between that time the dataset probably got deleted and re-allocated. Naturally when DFDSS went to copy the dataset later on, it wasn't there. Hence the error message. Moral of the story: Don't delete datasets until after DFDSS has copied them. Does that mean there is a time interval between DSS located the data set via catalog and DSS actually places the ENQUEUE on it? If it's true, from our experience this time interval for a big dump job is very long. Thus give another job the chance to delete the target data set. Do we have any method to ask DSS to ENQUEUE earlier? Thanks. -- Best Regards, Johnny Luo -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: When will ADRDSSU start to ENQUEUE on data sets?
There is a delay between the building of the list and actually backing up each dataset on the list. Generally, an enqueue is not set at the time the list is built - as you said, it may be hours before each dataset is actually backed up. Do you run DSS natively or are you calling it from another product, perhaps CA-Disk? If you are using DSS under the covers of CA-Disk, you can pass a parm (on the SYSPARMS dd statement) to enqueue the dataset. That may cause problems for your batch processing - enqueues can cause jobs to have to wait, which can cause time-outs or other problems, depending on what the jobs are doing. You could also have CA-Disk retry, which in your case could result in the new version of the dataset being backed up. That might be okay or not, depending on what you need to do. I would think that a better approach would be to look at the back up needs for that dataset and make changes accordingly. You might move the backup instream of the job that deletes and rebuilds the dataset or maybe tell your scheduling system not to run one job until the other is finished, whatever would fit your situation best. You might want to look at the possibility of breaking up the back up job into multiple jobs, each backing up one storage group or the contents of one catalogue at a time (just as an example). Linda Mooney -- Original message -- From: Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, We encountered a problem on our production system. A job was using DSS to backup a lot of data sets (logical dump) and we got ADR321E for one extended format PS data set: the data set was not on the supposed volume. This job will run more than 3 hours and we found out that another job will delete the data set and re-create it during that time (1.5 hours after the dump job starts). It might be the cause of ADR321E. And from the archive I found a similar thread: It is entirely possible that when DFDSS was building his process list the dataset was on the volume. Between that time the dataset probably got deleted and re-allocated. Naturally when DFDSS went to copy the dataset later on, it wasn't there. Hence the error message. Moral of the story: Don't delete datasets until after DFDSS has copied them. Does that mean there is a time interval between DSS located the data set via catalog and DSS actually places the ENQUEUE on it? If it's true, from our experience this time interval for a big dump job is very long. Thus give another job the chance to delete the target data set. Do we have any method to ask DSS to ENQUEUE earlier? Thanks. -- Best Regards, Johnny Luo -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
