[JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 and Windows 7 was RE: JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

[wayne smith]

Adrian, I see that you are using Windows 7 64bit as I am. Is there any reason 
to use JAWS 2018?  I still use JAWS 17.

Wayne

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Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 5:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

Fernando,

Using your driver update example, I tried a couple of ideas on my system, 
including seeing if the mouseover command would work. It didn't. However, the 
words you indicate are missing from the control appear when I switch to the 
JAWS cursor. 

I'm using a 64-bit Windows 7 machine and right now the last release of JAWS 18. 
I haven't tested this with 2018.

-

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Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 6:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

Hi Mike,

I have access keys speaking set to All and Tutor Messages to Custom Messages 
Only. However, I tried the Menus and Controls options but the issue is not 
fixed.
It is expected that this setting doesn't fix this issue. This is because tutor 
messages handles speaking of hints given by JAWS on how to operate the focused 
control type with the keyboard; for example, when you are on a button and have 
Tutor Messages to Menus and Controls, JAWS will say using the Tutor Message 
voice: “To activate press space bar.”
These are JAWS-specific messages. Control descriptions are small help texts, 
often just under the control name, which gives information on what a specific 
control does and it's displayed on the screen. For example, when you are in the 
Driver Update wizard for a device in Device Manager, the Search Driver Software 
on your Computer button have a description telling “Search and install the 
driver software manually,” and the button for check automatically tells 
something longer about the searching on the computer and Windows Update unless 
you disabled this in the device installation settings.

Thanks a lot!

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Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 5:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

Hi Fernando,

In Jaws quick settings, Options / Basics try these 2 settings if you haven't 
already.  I know I asked this earlier, but I don't know which settings you 
tried.  Using the settings below produced extra Jaws verbiage, but I just don't 
recall exactly what the control description is supposed to say.

Tutor Messages Announce Menu and Control Help radio button checked
2 of 3

Access Key Speak all radio button checked
2 of 4

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

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From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions


Hi Mike,

Thank you for replying.
Yes, I checked both Quick Settings and the Settings Center for the active 
verbosity level. In the active level, which is Beginner, I have checked the 
Control Descriptions item, and changing between long or short messages produce 
the same result on this problem.
Regarding Speech and Sounds Manager, I only changed the Classic scheme to make 
different heading levels to play piano sounds. Even so, I tried reverting to 
the original Classic scheme but, as I supposed, the problem is not fixed.
I also tried running JAWS in English to see if perhaps this is a specific issue 
in the Spanish version (it wouldn't be the first time I must edit a translated 
message missing a %1 or documentation which states things in an order different 
to the actual one, for example), but this issue is also present in English.
I think this should be somewhat related to the FocusChangedEvent, but my 
knowledge of event functions and scripting language in general is poor. As a 
workaround I tried to add the SayControlDescription function in the 
FocusChangedEvent, but it didn't worked at all.

Do you have some other ideas I can try?

Thanks in advance!

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Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 1:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

Hi Fernando,

Without knowing what level of verboscity you run, have you looked to see what 
your settings in the Jaws quick settings / Options / Basics are set at?
You're an advanced / very knowlebgeable Jaws computer operator, so I would 
imagine you have, but just throwing the 

[JAWS-Users] uploading music with amazon music app

[Dennis Long]

Hi, is there a way to use the Amazon music app to upload music?  They say
it's possible I can't get it to work.  I tried Jaws2018 and Jaws 16.  Your
help is appreciated.  Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

[Fernando Gregoire]

Hi Adrian,

Test doing this using NVDA with Speak Control Descriptions option in Object 
Presentation dialog enabled, or with JAWS's touch cursor with advanced object 
navigation enabled, press ALT+ENTER on a button and, when the Virtual Viewer 
showing properties opens, check the value of the property named HelpText.
You'll notice that JAWS is not reading this help text when it should, even if 
you enabled Control Descriptions item in your current verbosity level (for 
example Beginner) settings, regardless the message length radio buttons.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 8:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

Fernando,

Using your driver update example, I tried a couple of ideas on my system, 
including seeing if the mouseover command would work. It didn't. However, the 
words you indicate are missing from the control appear when I switch to the 
JAWS cursor. 

I'm using a 64-bit Windows 7 machine and right now the last release of JAWS 18. 
I haven't tested this with 2018.

-

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 6:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

Hi Mike,

I have access keys speaking set to All and Tutor Messages to Custom Messages 
Only. However, I tried the Menus and Controls options but the issue is not 
fixed.
It is expected that this setting doesn't fix this issue. This is because tutor 
messages handles speaking of hints given by JAWS on how to operate the focused 
control type with the keyboard; for example, when you are on a button and have 
Tutor Messages to Menus and Controls, JAWS will say using the Tutor Message 
voice: “To activate press space bar.”
These are JAWS-specific messages. Control descriptions are small help texts, 
often just under the control name, which gives information on what a specific 
control does and it's displayed on the screen. For example, when you are in the 
Driver Update wizard for a device in Device Manager, the Search Driver Software 
on your Computer button have a description telling “Search and install the 
driver software manually,” and the button for check automatically tells 
something longer about the searching on the computer and Windows Update unless 
you disabled this in the device installation settings.

Thanks a lot!

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 5:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

Hi Fernando,

In Jaws quick settings, Options / Basics try these 2 settings if you haven't 
already.  I know I asked this earlier, but I don't know which settings you 
tried.  Using the settings below produced extra Jaws verbiage, but I just don't 
recall exactly what the control description is supposed to say.

Tutor Messages Announce Menu and Control Help radio button checked
2 of 3

Access Key Speak all radio button checked
2 of 4

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions


Hi Mike,

Thank you for replying.
Yes, I checked both Quick Settings and the Settings Center for the active 
verbosity level. In the active level, which is Beginner, I have checked the 
Control Descriptions item, and changing between long or short messages produce 
the same result on this problem.
Regarding Speech and Sounds Manager, I only changed the Classic scheme to make 
different heading levels to play piano sounds. Even so, I tried reverting to 
the original Classic scheme but, as I supposed, the problem is not fixed.
I also tried running JAWS in English to see if perhaps this is a specific issue 
in the Spanish version (it wouldn't be the first time I must edit a translated 
message missing a %1 or documentation which states things in an order different 
to the actual one, for example), but this issue is also present in English.
I think this should be somewhat related to the FocusChangedEvent, but my 
knowledge of event functions and scripting language in general is poor. As a 
workaround I tried to add the SayControlDescription function in the 
FocusChangedEvent, but it didn't worked at all.

Do you have some other ideas I can try?

Thanks in advance!

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Of Mike B.
Sent: 

Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2010 desktop

[Fernando Gregoire]

Hi Kevin,

Unlike the Outlook Android version which offers a Files section, the only 
communication of Outlook 2016 for Windows with OneDrive is for attaching files. 
It allows to attach files not synchronized on your computer even if you have 
Files on Demand feature disabled or you are using Windows 7, as well as sending 
links to OneDrive files or folders instead of actually attaching the files to 
the message.
But even the Android version requires the OneDrive app to be installed for most 
operations, so in practice the Files section on this platform is a useless 
limited front-end.

Hope I was clear enough.

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Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 11:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2010 desktop

Does outlook have a one drive storage in the program, because when you go to 
office.com there is a one drive!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS And Realtek Sound Driver Configuration

[Fernando Gregoire]

Hi,

In my Asus Eee PC 1015 PE which has a Realtek sound chip, I have no problems 
with the Realtek HD Audio Manager.
Regarding the popup which appears when you connect headphones, usually this 
window gains the focus when appears and is a fully accessible normal dialog 
box. Try pressing INSERT+F10 and going to it from the JAWS Window List dialog 
box. I think you probably have tried this before asking here, but here's the 
suggestion.

Hope it helps!

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Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 12:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS And Realtek Sound Driver Configuration

Hi friends,

I Have just purchased a new laptop which has Realtek audio set up on it.
When you plug in speakers, it keeps coming up with a popup asking which device 
you plugged in.
I Can use the JAWS touch cursor to move around this screen and there is a 
message saying do not show this dialog again which it would be good to select 
but for some reason, when the touch cursor is on, I try to use the JAWS left 
click button but it doesn't seem to tick this box.
I tried pressing enter and return as well.
Has anyone come across any similar issues and found a way around?
The application for the Realtek Waves seems to be very poorly written 
accessability wise.
I Have tried searching for the jack selection option in other ways e.g. in 
control panel, sound and under the advanced and properties tabs to no effect.
Even tried searching the web for a registry entry but I have had no luck.
I Am also having issues with the Dell DW15 dock, when you plug in speakers to 
this, it will work for a while and then the sound card will drop out.
I Have updated the system bios, device drivers and firmware etc and the same 
thing still happens.

Any thought from anyone else with a similar setup would be very much 
appreciated!





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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS & Microsoft Silverlight Updates

[Fernando Gregoire]

Hi Mike,

I don't know whiy you may want to prevent Silverlight from updating or ever 
installing.
However, if Silverlight updates are continually unhiden, be aware that it is 
actually an add-on for IE. Try opening IE, going to Tools and then Manage 
Add-ons. In this dialog, find the Microsoft Silverlight plugin and disable it.
Do similar steps in other browsers for which Silverlight plugins are installed, 
such as Mozilla Firefox.

Hope it helps!

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Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 4:48 PM
To: Jaws-Users List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS & Microsoft Silverlight Updates

Hi All,

Running Windows 7 Pro, IE11, & Jaws 16 thru J2018.  I do not have Microsoft 
Silverlight installed, but I'm receiving updates for it that I have to hide 
whenever I get the notification.  Does anyone have any tips on how I can stop 
receiving the Silverlight updates?  Or, even though Silverlight is not 
installed, is there a setting in IE11 that can be changed to stop Silverlight 
from updating?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Versions & Windows 7

[Fernando Gregoire]

Hi Mike,

The earliest JAWS version functional in Windows 7 is the latest update of JAWS 
10.
This version simply worked, but it was not completely adapted at that time, so 
there are some things like the Shutdown button in Start menu and perhaps the 
Calculator converter that aren't spoken correctly.
The version which finally was completely adapted to Windows 7 besides simply 
working was JAWS 12.

Hope it helps!

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Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 5:05 PM
To: Jaws-Users List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Versions & Windows 7

Hi All,

What is the earliest version of Jaws that can be run on / with Windows 7 32 or 
64 bit?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games

[Andy Baracco]

They were written by a blind guy. They work with your screen reader.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Lee" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games



But are they self voicing or accessible for the blind?

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 7:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline 
games


Perhaps you can do a search for Destenno games. They were originally 
written

for DOS but were ported to Windows. The suite includes a great blackjack
game as well as craps, a slot machine, and a few other games.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Lee" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 7:11 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games



Anyone know of any, I did find blackjack once but never saved it to a
memory stick.
I found Klondike solitaire which is very accessible from spoonsville but
this person doesn’t program gambling type games.
It would be nice to find such games that I don’t have to play online!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Mechanical USB keyboard that works well with JAWS2018 and Windows10

[cheez]

Just don't get the Microsoft Windows 2000 wireless keyboard.  it has only 
one Windows Key, which is the left one.


Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave...Oregonian" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Mechanical USB keyboard that works well with 
JAWS2018 and Windows10




If you can still get the Microsoft "Natural" keyboard, it is a full-sized
ergonometric keyboard. The left and right hands are slightly skewed inward
and outward for less RMI, so it is split in the middle. Easy to get used 
to

the feel. I've been using this type of keyboard on all my computers for 20
years. Hopefully they are still available.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Shai" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 08:59
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Mechanical USB keyboard that works well with 
JAWS2018

and Windows10


Hello,
I am looking for a mechanical USB desktop keyboard that works well
with JAWS2018 and Windows10. Such a keyboard is useful for an
environment where one types for prolonged periods.
Would anyone happen to have any suggestions?
Thank you in advance for any responses

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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games

[Kevin Lee]

But are they self voicing or accessible for the blind?

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 7:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games

Perhaps you can do a search for Destenno games. They were originally written 
for DOS but were ported to Windows. The suite includes a great blackjack 
game as well as craps, a slot machine, and a few other games.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Lee" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 7:11 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games


> Anyone know of any, I did find blackjack once but never saved it to a 
> memory stick.
> I found Klondike solitaire which is very accessible from spoonsville but 
> this person doesn’t program gambling type games.
> It would be nice to find such games that I don’t have to play online!
>
> E-mail is golden!!!
> Kevin Lee
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mobile Device Center not working

[JM Casey]

Yeah, this was a thing that happened after a certain Windows update. Very
annoying, especially as I went into Mobile Device Centre and reset the
setting Microsoft changed, only to have them reset it again their way. It
doesn't really look like its' not being supported. They just changed some
settings so that a Windows mE device like the Packmate or Braille Note won't
acknowlecdge the USB connection. I took a quick look at the steps on that
page you linked, and this doesn't look like what I had to do. I believe all
I needed to do was change two settings in Computer Management Console. I'll
have to try and recall or figure out the steps. Seemed quite a bit simpler
than what is here though, and now my WMDC and braile notetaker work fine.



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Behalf Of Tom Vos
Sent: February 8, 2018 8:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mobile Device Center not working

I recently had trouble connecting my PAC Mate to my desk top computer with a
USB cable.
After some investigation I discovered that Microsoft is no longer supporting
Windows mobile Device Center (formerly called Active Sync).
So when my Windows 10 was updated, WMDC quit working.
If anyone else has this problem, there is help available.  At the website
pasted below there are options which may get you going again.
It worked for me.
http://www.junipersys.com/Juniper-Systems-Rugged-Handheld-Computers/support/
Knowledge-Base/Support-Knowledge-Base-Topics/Desktop-Connection-ActiveSync-o
r-Windows-Mobile-Device-Center/WMDC-in-Windows-10

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Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2010 desktop

[JM Casey]

Not built into it, no. If you have Windows 10, you'll have options to set up
and maintain OneDrive through the OS.

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Behalf Of Kevin Lee
Sent: February 8, 2018 9:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2010 desktop

Does outlook have a one drive storage in the program, because when you go to
office.com there is a one drive!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games

[Andy Baracco]

Perhaps you can do a search for Destenno games. They were originally written 
for DOS but were ported to Windows. The suite includes a great blackjack 
game as well as craps, a slot machine, and a few other games.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Lee" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 7:11 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games


Anyone know of any, I did find blackjack once but never saved it to a 
memory stick.
I found Klondike solitaire which is very accessible from spoonsville but 
this person doesn’t program gambling type games.

It would be nice to find such games that I don’t have to play online!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

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[JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games

[Kevin Lee]

Anyone know of any, I did find blackjack once but never saved it to a memory 
stick.
I found Klondike solitaire which is very accessible from spoonsville but this 
person doesn’t program gambling type games.
It would be nice to find such games that I don’t have to play online!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

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Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

[Audiobookfan]

Miriam,

When you perform the transfer to your SD card, do you transfer the 
entire folder or just the files inside the folder? I'm wondering if the 
program you're using to transfer the files is removing them once they 
are transferred. If you're specifying the folder to transfer, it may be 
removing it once it's been transferred. Just a thought.


Jeff


On 2/8/2018 11:23 AM, Miriam Vieni wrote:

So the last time I constructed that folder, I looked each day for 3 or 4
days and the folder was sitting there, obediently waiting. Then I downloaded
The Newyorker and placed it in the folder. I transferred it to my second
gen stream with the companion software because I'm accustomed to
transferring and opening books that way. I read the articles I wanted to
read. And then later, I was emailing to someone about another issue I had
and I remembered the books folder so I checked back to see if it was still
in Documents and, lo and behold, it had disappeared.

Miriam

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Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 9:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

What a hell of a problem. If you went to your documents folder and then
pressed the ctrl spacebar to insure that no folder had the focus. And then
pressed the application key and arrowed up to, new and pressed enter. And
you pressed return on folder. Then if you typed the name of the folder and
you got a new folder with that name. Then you placed an item  in that folder
and you found that  it was there but when you went back later the folder was
gone. Well then I think that you might have a poltergeist in your new home.
Check out to find  if  other,  mysteries are happening around the home.

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Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 5:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

Remember that Books folder that I constructed and it then disappeared and I
reconstructed it? I followed someone's directions and backspaced or
something and it sat comfortably in Documents until I used it yesterday. I
transferred The New Yorker magazine into it, and today, when I looked in
Documents. The folder was gone. I'd transferred the magazine to my VR Stream
so the folder was empty. It seems that each time I put it back in documents,
it stays until I use it. After I use it, it disappears. Can anyone make a
suggestion? 64 bit, Win7 IE 11, Jaws 18, Office 365.


Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Versions & Windows 7

[Mike B.]

Hi John,

Okay, thanks for your input.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: John Fitzgerald
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Versions & Windows 7


Mike,

I'm not sure beyond what I am running, which is win seven 64 bit, and jw 15.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 2:05 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Versions & Windows 7

Hi All,

What is the earliest version of Jaws that can be run on / with Windows 7 32 
or
64 bit?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

[Mike B.]

Hi Miriam,

Have you talked to Microsoft Accessibility about this?  Maybe your antivirus 
sees the folder as a threat, or something is set wrong in the properties of 
the folder?  Or, maybe there's something in the Tools / Options / Views page 
that's needing to be looked at.  I would be willing to bet that the 
accessibility folks could get it straightened out.  If you want to call 
them, here's their phone number & hours:
Phone: 1-800-936-5900

Monday thru Friday: 8:00 AM to 12:00 AM, eastern time

Saturday & Sunday: 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM, eastern time

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Miriam Vieni
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder


Oh, I just set it up again. It's not hard and someone told me an easy way to
name it. I just wonder why it's happening. It's easier for me than learning
something new. You know, I've just moved because of aging and physical
incapacity and this move has made my short term memory loss more obvious.
So, so long as I can do the stuff I really want and need to do, I'm
grateful.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 6:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

Okay, another highly non-techy idea. How about copying the "Book" folder
somewhere else where it might stay put. Then each time it disappears from
Documents, you could copy it back over. Not a solution, but maybe it would
save some frustration.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 6:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

There was one file that was in there permanently. I'd put an MP3 file, a
description of how to use a Sampson Haven cell phone in there. I also had
that file in Documents on its own. It disappeared with the books folder that
it was in. I can copy it and paste it in there again, but I suspect it won't
solve the problem.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 4:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

Miriam, I have no idea why your coy folder keeps disappearing, but based on
what you're reporting, how about making sure at least one file stays there
permanently? I get the sense that the folder goes into hiding whenever it's
empty of files.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 2:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

So the last time I constructed that folder, I looked each day for 3 or 4
days and the folder was sitting there, obediently waiting. Then I downloaded
The Newyorker and placed it in the folder. I transferred it to my second gen
stream with the companion software because I'm accustomed to transferring
and opening books that way. I read the articles I wanted to read. And then
later, I was emailing to someone about another issue I had and I remembered
the books folder so I checked back to see if it was still in Documents and,
lo and behold, it had disappeared.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 9:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

What a hell of a problem. If you went to your documents folder and then
pressed the ctrl spacebar to insure that no folder had the focus. And then
pressed the application key and arrowed up to, new and pressed enter. And
you pressed return on folder. Then if you typed the name of the folder and
you got a new folder with that name. Then you placed an item  in that folder
and you found that  it was there but when you went back later the folder was
gone. Well then I think that you might have a poltergeist in your new home.
Check out to find  if  other,  mysteries are happening around the home.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 5:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

Remember that Books folder that I constructed and it then disappeared and I
reconstructed it? I followed someone's directions and backspaced or
something and it sat comfortably in Documents until I used it yesterday. 

[JAWS-Users] outlook 2010 desktop

[Kevin Lee]

Does outlook have a one drive storage in the program, because when you go to 
office.com there is a one drive!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

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[JAWS-Users] Windows Mobile Device Center not working

[Tom Vos]

I recently had trouble connecting my PAC Mate to my desk top computer
with a USB cable.
After some investigation I discovered that Microsoft is no longer
supporting Windows mobile Device Center (formerly called Active Sync).
So when my Windows 10 was updated, WMDC quit working.
If anyone else has this problem, there is help available.  At the
website pasted below there are options which may get you going again.
It worked for me.
http://www.junipersys.com/Juniper-Systems-Rugged-Handheld-Computers/support/Knowledge-Base/Support-Knowledge-Base-Topics/Desktop-Connection-ActiveSync-or-Windows-Mobile-Device-Center/WMDC-in-Windows-10

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Versions & Windows 7

[John Fitzgerald]

Mike,

I'm not sure beyond what I am running, which is win seven 64 bit, and jw 15.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 2:05 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Versions & Windows 7

Hi All,

What is the earliest version of Jaws that can be run on / with Windows 7 32 or
64 bit?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

[Miriam Vieni]

Oh, I just set it up again. It's not hard and someone told me an easy way to
name it. I just wonder why it's happening. It's easier for me than learning
something new. You know, I've just moved because of aging and physical
incapacity and this move has made my short term memory loss more obvious.
So, so long as I can do the stuff I really want and need to do, I'm
grateful.

Miriam 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 6:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

Okay, another highly non-techy idea. How about copying the "Book" folder
somewhere else where it might stay put. Then each time it disappears from
Documents, you could copy it back over. Not a solution, but maybe it would
save some frustration. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 6:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

There was one file that was in there permanently. I'd put an MP3 file, a
description of how to use a Sampson Haven cell phone in there. I also had
that file in Documents on its own. It disappeared with the books folder that
it was in. I can copy it and paste it in there again, but I suspect it won't
solve the problem.

Miriam 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 4:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

Miriam, I have no idea why your coy folder keeps disappearing, but based on
what you're reporting, how about making sure at least one file stays there
permanently? I get the sense that the folder goes into hiding whenever it's
empty of files.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 2:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

So the last time I constructed that folder, I looked each day for 3 or 4
days and the folder was sitting there, obediently waiting. Then I downloaded
The Newyorker and placed it in the folder. I transferred it to my second gen
stream with the companion software because I'm accustomed to transferring
and opening books that way. I read the articles I wanted to read. And then
later, I was emailing to someone about another issue I had and I remembered
the books folder so I checked back to see if it was still in Documents and,
lo and behold, it had disappeared.

Miriam 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 9:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

What a hell of a problem. If you went to your documents folder and then
pressed the ctrl spacebar to insure that no folder had the focus. And then
pressed the application key and arrowed up to, new and pressed enter. And
you pressed return on folder. Then if you typed the name of the folder and
you got a new folder with that name. Then you placed an item  in that folder
and you found that  it was there but when you went back later the folder was
gone. Well then I think that you might have a poltergeist in your new home.
Check out to find  if  other,  mysteries are happening around the home. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 5:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

Remember that Books folder that I constructed and it then disappeared and I
reconstructed it? I followed someone's directions and backspaced or
something and it sat comfortably in Documents until I used it yesterday. I
transferred The New Yorker magazine into it, and today, when I looked in
Documents. The folder was gone. I'd transferred the magazine to my VR Stream
so the folder was empty. It seems that each time I put it back in documents,
it stays until I use it. After I use it, it disappears. Can anyone make a
suggestion? 64 bit, Win7 IE 11, Jaws 18, Office 365.


Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

[Adrian Spratt]

Okay, another highly non-techy idea. How about copying the "Book" folder 
somewhere else where it might stay put. Then each time it disappears from 
Documents, you could copy it back over. Not a solution, but maybe it would save 
some frustration. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 6:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

There was one file that was in there permanently. I'd put an MP3 file, a 
description of how to use a Sampson Haven cell phone in there. I also had that 
file in Documents on its own. It disappeared with the books folder that it was 
in. I can copy it and paste it in there again, but I suspect it won't solve the 
problem.

Miriam 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 4:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

Miriam, I have no idea why your coy folder keeps disappearing, but based on 
what you're reporting, how about making sure at least one file stays there 
permanently? I get the sense that the folder goes into hiding whenever it's 
empty of files.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 2:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

So the last time I constructed that folder, I looked each day for 3 or 4 days 
and the folder was sitting there, obediently waiting. Then I downloaded The 
Newyorker and placed it in the folder. I transferred it to my second gen stream 
with the companion software because I'm accustomed to transferring and opening 
books that way. I read the articles I wanted to read. And then later, I was 
emailing to someone about another issue I had and I remembered the books folder 
so I checked back to see if it was still in Documents and, lo and behold, it 
had disappeared.

Miriam 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of LeDon
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 9:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

What a hell of a problem. If you went to your documents folder and then pressed 
the ctrl spacebar to insure that no folder had the focus. And then pressed the 
application key and arrowed up to, new and pressed enter. And you pressed 
return on folder. Then if you typed the name of the folder and you got a new 
folder with that name. Then you placed an item  in that folder and you found 
that  it was there but when you went back later the folder was gone. Well then 
I think that you might have a poltergeist in your new home.
Check out to find  if  other,  mysteries are happening around the home. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 5:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

Remember that Books folder that I constructed and it then disappeared and I 
reconstructed it? I followed someone's directions and backspaced or something 
and it sat comfortably in Documents until I used it yesterday. I transferred 
The New Yorker magazine into it, and today, when I looked in Documents. The 
folder was gone. I'd transferred the magazine to my VR Stream so the folder was 
empty. It seems that each time I put it back in documents, it stays until I use 
it. After I use it, it disappears. Can anyone make a suggestion? 64 bit, Win7 
IE 11, Jaws 18, Office 365.


Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

[Miriam Vieni]

There was one file that was in there permanently. I'd put an MP3 file, a
description of how to use a Sampson Haven cell phone in there. I also had
that file in Documents on its own. It disappeared with the books folder that
it was in. I can copy it and paste it in there again, but I suspect it won't
solve the problem.

Miriam 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 4:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

Miriam, I have no idea why your coy folder keeps disappearing, but based on
what you're reporting, how about making sure at least one file stays there
permanently? I get the sense that the folder goes into hiding whenever it's
empty of files.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 2:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

So the last time I constructed that folder, I looked each day for 3 or 4
days and the folder was sitting there, obediently waiting. Then I downloaded
The Newyorker and placed it in the folder. I transferred it to my second gen
stream with the companion software because I'm accustomed to transferring
and opening books that way. I read the articles I wanted to read. And then
later, I was emailing to someone about another issue I had and I remembered
the books folder so I checked back to see if it was still in Documents and,
lo and behold, it had disappeared.

Miriam 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 9:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

What a hell of a problem. If you went to your documents folder and then
pressed the ctrl spacebar to insure that no folder had the focus. And then
pressed the application key and arrowed up to, new and pressed enter. And
you pressed return on folder. Then if you typed the name of the folder and
you got a new folder with that name. Then you placed an item  in that folder
and you found that  it was there but when you went back later the folder was
gone. Well then I think that you might have a poltergeist in your new home.
Check out to find  if  other,  mysteries are happening around the home. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 5:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

Remember that Books folder that I constructed and it then disappeared and I
reconstructed it? I followed someone's directions and backspaced or
something and it sat comfortably in Documents until I used it yesterday. I
transferred The New Yorker magazine into it, and today, when I looked in
Documents. The folder was gone. I'd transferred the magazine to my VR Stream
so the folder was empty. It seems that each time I put it back in documents,
it stays until I use it. After I use it, it disappears. Can anyone make a
suggestion? 64 bit, Win7 IE 11, Jaws 18, Office 365.


Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS & Microsoft Silverlight Updates

[Rick Justice]

Hi Mike,
I would say the short answer is no.
Many times I have seen important and optional updates come down which
have not been relevant to my version of Windows or even my brand of 
computer.
I simply hide them whenever this occurs.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 
To: "Jaws-Users List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 2:48 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS & Microsoft Silverlight Updates


Hi All,

Running Windows 7 Pro, IE11, & Jaws 16 thru J2018.  I do not have Microsoft
Silverlight installed, but I'm receiving updates for it that I have to hide
whenever I get the notification.  Does anyone have any tips on how I can
stop receiving the Silverlight updates?  Or, even though Silverlight is not
installed, is there a setting in IE11 that can be changed to stop
Silverlight from updating?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Versions & Windows 7

[Mike B.]

Hi Geovanni,

Thank you very muchfor this, it's appreciated mooy moocho.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Geovanni Bahena
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Versions & Windows 7


HI,


jaws 12 is the first version that officially supports windows 7.
however, Jaws 11 latest version works ok.


On 2/8/2018 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> What is the earliest version of Jaws that can be run on / with Windows 7 
> 32
> or 64 bit?  Thanks much.
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

[Adrian Spratt]

Miriam, I have no idea why your coy folder keeps disappearing, but based on 
what you're reporting, how about making sure at least one file stays there 
permanently? I get the sense that the folder goes into hiding whenever it's 
empty of files.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 2:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

So the last time I constructed that folder, I looked each day for 3 or 4 days 
and the folder was sitting there, obediently waiting. Then I downloaded The 
Newyorker and placed it in the folder. I transferred it to my second gen stream 
with the companion software because I'm accustomed to transferring and opening 
books that way. I read the articles I wanted to read. And then later, I was 
emailing to someone about another issue I had and I remembered the books folder 
so I checked back to see if it was still in Documents and, lo and behold, it 
had disappeared.

Miriam 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of LeDon
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 9:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

What a hell of a problem. If you went to your documents folder and then pressed 
the ctrl spacebar to insure that no folder had the focus. And then pressed the 
application key and arrowed up to, new and pressed enter. And you pressed 
return on folder. Then if you typed the name of the folder and you got a new 
folder with that name. Then you placed an item  in that folder and you found 
that  it was there but when you went back later the folder was gone. Well then 
I think that you might have a poltergeist in your new home.
Check out to find  if  other,  mysteries are happening around the home. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 5:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

Remember that Books folder that I constructed and it then disappeared and I 
reconstructed it? I followed someone's directions and backspaced or something 
and it sat comfortably in Documents until I used it yesterday. I transferred 
The New Yorker magazine into it, and today, when I looked in Documents. The 
folder was gone. I'd transferred the magazine to my VR Stream so the folder was 
empty. It seems that each time I put it back in documents, it stays until I use 
it. After I use it, it disappears. Can anyone make a suggestion? 64 bit, Win7 
IE 11, Jaws 18, Office 365.


Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Versions & Windows 7

[Geovanni Bahena]

HI,


jaws 12 is the first version that officially supports windows 7. 
however, Jaws 11 latest version works ok.



On 2/8/2018 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

What is the earliest version of Jaws that can be run on / with Windows 7 32
or 64 bit?  Thanks much.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

[net bat66]

sorry, this doesn't work for me. i have to press alt capslock. your way does 
not work with me.
-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 6:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

You don't need to press the alt cap lock to turn it on or off. Just tap on
your cap lock key twice quickly without pressing any other key to turn cap
lock on or off.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

i don't know if the same keys are used with the desktop layout. but i am
useing the capslock for the jaws modifier.
and i can turn capslock on and off by pressing the alt and caps lock to turn
it on or off.

-Original Message-
From: Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 1:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

No, the tab twice isn't working and you an change which key you use in the
settings center.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: "chris judge" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed



Hi Vicky. Are you asking how to temporarily disable the caps lock key as

the

jaws modifier? I think you have to change the keyboard layout to do this,
however you can toggle the capslock on and off by double tapping it

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:38 AM
To: JAWS 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

Good Morning!

What is the keystroke for turning off the caps lock key temporarily as the
JAWS cursor when using a laptop keyboard?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

[net bat66]

i have to use alt capslock to turn it on and off. capslock alone will do 
nothing.

i have the capslock as the jaws key.
-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 5:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

Vicky, If you have the laptop keyboard configuration set up on your
computer, you should be able to tap quickly on the cap lock key and hear
either cap lock on, or cap lock off. When cap lock is on you will type in
all caps. With the cap lock off you will use the shift key to type an
uppercase letter. You probably already know that. But here's the thing, if
it is not working that way for you, then, it is time to call FS.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

I was just looking for the key itself, which is the caps lock and how to
turn it off when I need to use the shift key.

For some reason, tapping it twice quickly has no effect. If I change the
JAWS key to another key, my caps lock key works fine, so I know it's not an
issue with the physical key on the keyboard.

I'm just wondering if there is something else I need to adjust to get it to
function correctly when tapping twice to use as a caps lock key.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: "David Whitehead" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed



not sure what your looking for hear;
the capslock key is the insert key if you are using the laptop layout,
the keystroke to bring up the jaws cursor is: capslock+p,
to bring up the pc cursor, capslock+semi colon.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

Tried that and for some reason it isn't working.


- Original Message - 
From: "Debby" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed



Click the caps lock key twice quickly.

Debby


Sent from my iPhone


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Good Morning!

What is the keystroke for turning off the caps lock key temporarily as
the JAWS cursor when using a laptop keyboard?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

[net bat66]

i have to use alt capslock to turn it on and off. capslock alone will do 
nothing.

i have the capslock as the jaws key.
-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 5:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

Vicky, If you have the laptop keyboard configuration set up on your
computer, you should be able to tap quickly on the cap lock key and hear
either cap lock on, or cap lock off. When cap lock is on you will type in
all caps. With the cap lock off you will use the shift key to type an
uppercase letter. You probably already know that. But here's the thing, if
it is not working that way for you, then, it is time to call FS.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

I was just looking for the key itself, which is the caps lock and how to
turn it off when I need to use the shift key.

For some reason, tapping it twice quickly has no effect. If I change the
JAWS key to another key, my caps lock key works fine, so I know it's not an
issue with the physical key on the keyboard.

I'm just wondering if there is something else I need to adjust to get it to
function correctly when tapping twice to use as a caps lock key.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: "David Whitehead" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed



not sure what your looking for hear;
the capslock key is the insert key if you are using the laptop layout,
the keystroke to bring up the jaws cursor is: capslock+p,
to bring up the pc cursor, capslock+semi colon.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

Tried that and for some reason it isn't working.


- Original Message - 
From: "Debby" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed



Click the caps lock key twice quickly.

Debby


Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 7, 2018, at 9:38 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:

Good Morning!

What is the keystroke for turning off the caps lock key temporarily as
the JAWS cursor when using a laptop keyboard?

Thanks.

Vicki
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS & Microsoft Silverlight Updates

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Running Windows 7 Pro, IE11, & Jaws 16 thru J2018.  I do not have Microsoft 
Silverlight installed, but I'm receiving updates for it that I have to hide 
whenever I get the notification.  Does anyone have any tips on how I can 
stop receiving the Silverlight updates?  Or, even though Silverlight is not 
installed, is there a setting in IE11 that can be changed to stop 
Silverlight from updating?  Thanks much.
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[JAWS-Users] Jaws Versions & Windows 7

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

What is the earliest version of Jaws that can be run on / with Windows 7 32 
or 64 bit?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

[Miriam Vieni]

So the last time I constructed that folder, I looked each day for 3 or 4
days and the folder was sitting there, obediently waiting. Then I downloaded
The Newyorker and placed it in the folder. I transferred it to my second
gen stream with the companion software because I'm accustomed to
transferring and opening books that way. I read the articles I wanted to
read. And then later, I was emailing to someone about another issue I had
and I remembered the books folder so I checked back to see if it was still
in Documents and, lo and behold, it had disappeared.

Miriam 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 9:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

What a hell of a problem. If you went to your documents folder and then
pressed the ctrl spacebar to insure that no folder had the focus. And then
pressed the application key and arrowed up to, new and pressed enter. And
you pressed return on folder. Then if you typed the name of the folder and
you got a new folder with that name. Then you placed an item  in that folder
and you found that  it was there but when you went back later the folder was
gone. Well then I think that you might have a poltergeist in your new home.
Check out to find  if  other,  mysteries are happening around the home. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 5:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

Remember that Books folder that I constructed and it then disappeared and I
reconstructed it? I followed someone's directions and backspaced or
something and it sat comfortably in Documents until I used it yesterday. I
transferred The New Yorker magazine into it, and today, when I looked in
Documents. The folder was gone. I'd transferred the magazine to my VR Stream
so the folder was empty. It seems that each time I put it back in documents,
it stays until I use it. After I use it, it disappears. Can anyone make a
suggestion? 64 bit, Win7 IE 11, Jaws 18, Office 365.


Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS And Realtek Sound Driver Configuration

[JM Casey]

That's strange.

I do not seem to get this message on my home desktop, which uses Realtech
High-definition Audio, and the requisite drivers. However, I do remember
seeing it at work, whenever I plugged in my headphones. I do not remember
having to use the touch cursor at all. I don't recall what I did to exit the
box ... but I do remember it coming up every single time, indeed, so maybe
it was a similar situation.
I suppose the good ole' JAWS cursor won't help you at all?



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: February 8, 2018 10:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS And Realtek Sound Driver Configuration

Hi friends,

I Have just purchased a new laptop which has Realtek audio set up on it.
When you plug in speakers, it keeps coming up with a popup asking which
device you plugged in.
I Can use the JAWS touch cursor to move around this screen and there is a
message saying do not show this dialog again which it would be good to
select but for some reason, when the touch cursor is on, I try to use the
JAWS left click button but it doesn't seem to tick this box.
I tried pressing enter and return as well.
Has anyone come across any similar issues and found a way around?
The application for the Realtek Waves seems to be very poorly written
accessability wise.
I Have tried searching for the jack selection option in other ways e.g. in
control panel, sound and under the advanced and properties tabs to no
effect.
Even tried searching the web for a registry entry but I have had no luck.
I Am also having issues with the Dell DW15 dock, when you plug in speakers
to this, it will work for a while and then the sound card will drop out.
I Have updated the system bios, device drivers and firmware etc and the same
thing still happens.

Any thought from anyone else with a similar setup would be very much
appreciated!






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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS And Realtek Sound Driver Configuration

[JM Casey]

I have used Realtech audio for years at work, and now also at home, on a
desktop running Windows 10, without any issues at all. However, the date of
my driver publication appears to be sometime in the summer of 2016. I
suppose if this is a new problem, I shouldn't bother to hit that "update"
button.

The sound/audio settings in windows control panel also work fine for me. No
touchpad here, and I do understand a lot of users do prefer to have it
disabled, if it exists.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of amca...@verizon.net
Sent: February 8, 2018 11:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS And Realtek Sound Driver Configuration

Hi,

  I have a Dell, and I could not find a way to navigate with JAWS in the
Sound Card and TouchPad settings.  I had to have a mouse user turn off the
TouchPad, and make the generic sound card driver the default.  JAWS was not
a happy camper with the RealTech driver.  I believe that there is a known
problem with using external speakers and headsets on some computers running
Windows10.  

HTH,
Annette
 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 10:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS And Realtek Sound Driver Configuration

Hi friends,

I Have just purchased a new laptop which has Realtek audio set up on it.
When you plug in speakers, it keeps coming up with a popup asking which
device you plugged in.
I Can use the JAWS touch cursor to move around this screen and there is a
message saying do not show this dialog again which it would be good to
select but for some reason, when the touch cursor is on, I try to use the
JAWS left click button but it doesn't seem to tick this box.
I tried pressing enter and return as well.
Has anyone come across any similar issues and found a way around?
The application for the Realtek Waves seems to be very poorly written
accessability wise.
I Have tried searching for the jack selection option in other ways e.g. in
control panel, sound and under the advanced and properties tabs to no
effect.
Even tried searching the web for a registry entry but I have had no luck.
I Am also having issues with the Dell DW15 dock, when you plug in speakers
to this, it will work for a while and then the sound card will drop out.
I Have updated the system bios, device drivers and firmware etc and the same
thing still happens.

Any thought from anyone else with a similar setup would be very much
appreciated!






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Re: [JAWS-Users] Mechanical USB keyboard that works well with JAWS2018 and Windows10

[JM Casey]

I don't have any concrete suggestions, because I always just grab whatever
keyboard feels usable that's lying around some local second-hand store. I've
also pilfered one or two from work departments over the years (they're
always lying around). I had a fancy one for a while with lots of extra keys
that activated browsers, media players and so on. It was neat, but as stiff
as a board, so I gave it up, and went back to your generic office-type
keyboard. All these that I have seen have number pads, and as far as I know
that's the only thing that makes a difference to JAWS, though lots of
desktop users actually seem to prefer the laptop layout, and it's easy
enough to learn. So, while I don't know anything about
manufacturerscheck the second-hand stores, if there are any around you.
The last time I stopped in I bought two keyboards for around $5 each, and
now I have a backup in my closet in case I spill mustard all over this one
or something. :P



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave...Oregonian
Sent: February 8, 2018 12:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Mechanical USB keyboard that works well with
JAWS2018 and Windows10

If you can still get the Microsoft "Natural" keyboard, it is a full-sized
ergonometric keyboard. The left and right hands are slightly skewed inward
and outward for less RMI, so it is split in the middle. Easy to get used to
the feel. I've been using this type of keyboard on all my computers for 20
years. Hopefully they are still available.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Shai" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 08:59
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Mechanical USB keyboard that works well with JAWS2018
and Windows10


Hello,
I am looking for a mechanical USB desktop keyboard that works well with
JAWS2018 and Windows10. Such a keyboard is useful for an environment where
one types for prolonged periods.
Would anyone happen to have any suggestions?
Thank you in advance for any responses

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 reading blank in Word and excel files!

[Adrian Spratt]

Try maximizing the window by pressing alt-spacebar, releasing, then pressing x. 
If that solves the problem, you can make the setting permanent in the 
properties/shortcut dialog.

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Of Mailing Lists
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 10:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 reading blank in Word and excel files!

Hi All,

Just loaded JAWS 17 onto a new windows 10 computer. Now when I load up MS Word 
16 documents or an Excel file JAWS is saying blank even though there is text 
contained within the Word document or numerical data in the Excel documents. I 
am not sure if this is a compatibility issue or not. JAWS 17 will read the 
title bar and other extraneous material of the documents window but will not 
read the general text typed up inside the document or spreadsheets themselves. 
I have also downloaded a current JAWS 2018 and ran it in demo mode but still 
the same result.
Just wondered if anyone else had an issue like this.

Many thanks for feedback.

Paul.




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Mechanical USB keyboard that works well with JAWS2018 and Windows10

[Dave...Oregonian]

If you can still get the Microsoft "Natural" keyboard, it is a full-sized 
ergonometric keyboard. The left and right hands are slightly skewed inward 
and outward for less RMI, so it is split in the middle. Easy to get used to 
the feel. I've been using this type of keyboard on all my computers for 20 
years. Hopefully they are still available.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Shai" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 08:59
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Mechanical USB keyboard that works well with JAWS2018 
and Windows10


Hello,
I am looking for a mechanical USB desktop keyboard that works well
with JAWS2018 and Windows10. Such a keyboard is useful for an
environment where one types for prolonged periods.
Would anyone happen to have any suggestions?
Thank you in advance for any responses

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 reading blank in Word and excel files!

[Mailing Lists]

Hi All,

Just loaded JAWS 17 onto a new windows 10 computer. Now when I load up MS
Word 16 documents or an Excel file JAWS is saying blank even though there is
text contained within the Word document or numerical data in the Excel
documents. I am not sure if this is a compatibility issue or not. JAWS 17
will read the title bar and other extraneous material of the documents
window but will not read the general text typed up inside the document or
spreadsheets themselves. I have also downloaded a current JAWS 2018 and ran
it in demo mode but still the same result.
Just wondered if anyone else had an issue like this.

Many thanks for feedback.

Paul.




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[JAWS-Users] Mechanical USB keyboard that works well with JAWS2018 and Windows10

[Shai]

Hello,
I am looking for a mechanical USB desktop keyboard that works well
with JAWS2018 and Windows10. Such a keyboard is useful for an
environment where one types for prolonged periods.
Would anyone happen to have any suggestions?
Thank you in advance for any responses

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS And Realtek Sound Driver Configuration

[amcarr1]

Hi,

I have a Dell, and I could not find a way to navigate with JAWS in the Sound
Card and TouchPad settings.  I had to have a mouse user turn off the
TouchPad, and make the generic sound card driver the default.  JAWS was not
a happy camper with the RealTech driver.  I believe that there is a known
problem with using external speakers and headsets on some computers running
Windows10.  

HTH,
Annette
 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 10:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS And Realtek Sound Driver Configuration

Hi friends,

I Have just purchased a new laptop which has Realtek audio set up on it.
When you plug in speakers, it keeps coming up with a popup asking which
device you plugged in.
I Can use the JAWS touch cursor to move around this screen and there is a
message saying do not show this dialog again which it would be good to
select but for some reason, when the touch cursor is on, I try to use the
JAWS left click button but it doesn't seem to tick this box.
I tried pressing enter and return as well.
Has anyone come across any similar issues and found a way around?
The application for the Realtek Waves seems to be very poorly written
accessability wise.
I Have tried searching for the jack selection option in other ways e.g. in
control panel, sound and under the advanced and properties tabs to no
effect.
Even tried searching the web for a registry entry but I have had no luck.
I Am also having issues with the Dell DW15 dock, when you plug in speakers
to this, it will work for a while and then the sound card will drop out.
I Have updated the system bios, device drivers and firmware etc and the same
thing still happens.

Any thought from anyone else with a similar setup would be very much
appreciated!






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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

[HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Try pressing the caps lock a couple of times quickly and see if this changes it?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Vicki W.
Sent: 08 February 2018 11:51
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

My problem is that I cannot turn the caps lock key back to using it as a caps 
lock, so when I type, everything is in caps and if I use the shift key to 
capitalize the first letter of something and leave the rest in small letters, 
it doesn't work.


- Original Message -
From: "cheez" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed


> Vicki.  You said you wanted to turn the caps lock off when you need to use
> the shift key.
> I may be misunderstanding you here, but, the caps lock and the shift key
> are 2 different keys.  Therefore, other than using the caps lock in the
> laptop layout, you wouldn't use the caps lock to capitalize one letter.
> but you know that.
> Unless you have a strange keyboard like I have that has only one windows
> key.
>
> Vince
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Vicki W." 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
>
>
>>I was just looking for the key itself, which is the caps lock and how to
>>turn it off when I need to use the shift key.
>>
>> For some reason, tapping it twice quickly has no effect. If I change the
>> JAWS key to another key, my caps lock key works fine, so I know it's not
>> an issue with the physical key on the keyboard.
>>
>> I'm just wondering if there is something else I need to adjust to get it
>> to function correctly when tapping twice to use as a caps lock key.
>>
>> Vicki
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "David Whitehead" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
>>
>>
>>> not sure what your looking for hear;
>>> the capslock key is the insert key if you are using the laptop layout,
>>> the keystroke to bring up the jaws cursor is: capslock+p,
>>> to bring up the pc cursor, capslock+semi colon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Vicki W.
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:10 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
>>>
>>> Tried that and for some reason it isn't working.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Debby" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
>>>
>>>
 Click the caps lock key twice quickly.

 Debby


 Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 7, 2018, at 9:38 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
>
> Good Morning!
>
> What is the keystroke for turning off the caps lock key temporarily as
> the JAWS cursor when using a laptop keyboard?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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[JAWS-Users] JAWS And Realtek Sound Driver Configuration

[HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Hi friends,

I Have just purchased a new laptop which has Realtek audio set up on it.
When you plug in speakers, it keeps coming up with a popup asking which device 
you plugged in.
I Can use the JAWS touch cursor to move around this screen and there is a 
message saying do not show this dialog again which it would be good to select 
but for some reason, when the touch cursor is on, I try to use the JAWS left 
click button but it doesn't seem to tick this box.
I tried pressing enter and return as well.
Has anyone come across any similar issues and found a way around?
The application for the Realtek Waves seems to be very poorly written 
accessability wise.
I Have tried searching for the jack selection option in other ways e.g. in 
control panel, sound and under the advanced and properties tabs to no effect.
Even tried searching the web for a registry entry but I have had no luck.
I Am also having issues with the Dell DW15 dock, when you plug in speakers to 
this, it will work for a while and then the sound card will drop out.
I Have updated the system bios, device drivers and firmware etc and the same 
thing still happens.

Any thought from anyone else with a similar setup would be very much 
appreciated!





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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

[Debby]

Oops sorry my bad! I have been using Window eyes some lately and forgot to put 
my JAwS hat on. 
Sorry!

Debby
Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2018, at 9:12 AM, Mike B.  wrote:
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> A minor correction:  The pass through keystroke is, Jaws key + 3, on the 
> number row above the main keyboard,
> 
> Jaws key + B, = Says the controls in the dialog box in their correct Tab 
> Order.
> 
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Debby
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 4:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
> 
> 
> So is the caps  lock key currently acting as the JAWS key? If so, try  the 
> JAWS pass through keystroke caps lock plus the letter b. Then press the caps 
> lock key. I am not sure if will work but if is worth a try.
> 
> Debby
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 6:50 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
>> 
>> My problem is that I cannot turn the caps lock key back to using it as a 
>> caps lock, so when I type, everything is in caps and if I use the shift 
>> key to capitalize the first letter of something and leave the rest in 
>> small letters, it doesn't work.
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "cheez" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
>> 
>> 
>>> Vicki.  You said you wanted to turn the caps lock off when you need to 
>>> use the shift key.
>>> I may be misunderstanding you here, but, the caps lock and the shift key 
>>> are 2 different keys.  Therefore, other than using the caps lock in the 
>>> laptop layout, you wouldn't use the caps lock to capitalize one letter. 
>>> but you know that.
>>> Unless you have a strange keyboard like I have that has only one windows 
>>> key.
>>> 
>>> Vince
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Vicki W." 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 11:06 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
>>> 
>>> 
 I was just looking for the key itself, which is the caps lock and how to 
 turn it off when I need to use the shift key.
 
 For some reason, tapping it twice quickly has no effect. If I change the 
 JAWS key to another key, my caps lock key works fine, so I know it's not 
 an issue with the physical key on the keyboard.
 
 I'm just wondering if there is something else I need to adjust to get it 
 to function correctly when tapping twice to use as a caps lock key.
 
 Vicki
 
 - Original Message - From: "David Whitehead" 
 
 To: 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
 
 
> not sure what your looking for hear;
> the capslock key is the insert key if you are using the laptop layout,
> the keystroke to bring up the jaws cursor is: capslock+p,
> to bring up the pc cursor, capslock+semi colon.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of Vicki W.
> Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:10 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
> 
> Tried that and for some reason it isn't working.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Debby" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
> 
> 
>> Click the caps lock key twice quickly.
>> 
>> Debby
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2018, at 9:38 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good Morning!
>>> 
>>> What is the keystroke for turning off the caps lock key temporarily 
>>> as
>>> the JAWS cursor when using a laptop keyboard?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

[Mike B.]

Howdy,

A minor correction:  The pass through keystroke is, Jaws key + 3, on the 
number row above the main keyboard,

Jaws key + B, = Says the controls in the dialog box in their correct Tab 
Order.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message - 
From: Debby
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 4:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed


So is the caps  lock key currently acting as the JAWS key? If so, try  the 
JAWS pass through keystroke caps lock plus the letter b. Then press the caps 
lock key. I am not sure if will work but if is worth a try.

Debby

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2018, at 6:50 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
>
> My problem is that I cannot turn the caps lock key back to using it as a 
> caps lock, so when I type, everything is in caps and if I use the shift 
> key to capitalize the first letter of something and leave the rest in 
> small letters, it doesn't work.
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "cheez" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
>
>
>> Vicki.  You said you wanted to turn the caps lock off when you need to 
>> use the shift key.
>> I may be misunderstanding you here, but, the caps lock and the shift key 
>> are 2 different keys.  Therefore, other than using the caps lock in the 
>> laptop layout, you wouldn't use the caps lock to capitalize one letter. 
>> but you know that.
>> Unless you have a strange keyboard like I have that has only one windows 
>> key.
>>
>> Vince
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Vicki W." 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 11:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
>>
>>
>>> I was just looking for the key itself, which is the caps lock and how to 
>>> turn it off when I need to use the shift key.
>>>
>>> For some reason, tapping it twice quickly has no effect. If I change the 
>>> JAWS key to another key, my caps lock key works fine, so I know it's not 
>>> an issue with the physical key on the keyboard.
>>>
>>> I'm just wondering if there is something else I need to adjust to get it 
>>> to function correctly when tapping twice to use as a caps lock key.
>>>
>>> Vicki
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "David Whitehead" 
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:42 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
>>>
>>>
 not sure what your looking for hear;
 the capslock key is the insert key if you are using the laptop layout,
 the keystroke to bring up the jaws cursor is: capslock+p,
 to bring up the pc cursor, capslock+semi colon.



 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On
 Behalf Of Vicki W.
 Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:10 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

 Tried that and for some reason it isn't working.


 - Original Message - From: "Debby" 
 To: 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:01 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed


> Click the caps lock key twice quickly.
>
> Debby
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 7, 2018, at 9:38 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
>>
>> Good Morning!
>>
>> What is the keystroke for turning off the caps lock key temporarily 
>> as
>> the JAWS cursor when using a laptop keyboard?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Vicki
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

[LeDon]

You don't need to press the alt cap lock to turn it on or off. Just tap on
your cap lock key twice quickly without pressing any other key to turn cap
lock on or off. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

i don't know if the same keys are used with the desktop layout. but i am
useing the capslock for the jaws modifier.
and i can turn capslock on and off by pressing the alt and caps lock to turn
it on or off.

-Original Message-
From: Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 1:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

No, the tab twice isn't working and you an change which key you use in the
settings center.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: "chris judge" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed


> Hi Vicky. Are you asking how to temporarily disable the caps lock key as
the
> jaws modifier? I think you have to change the keyboard layout to do this,
> however you can toggle the capslock on and off by double tapping it
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Vicki W.
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:38 AM
> To: JAWS 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
>
> Good Morning!
>
> What is the keystroke for turning off the caps lock key temporarily as the
> JAWS cursor when using a laptop keyboard?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
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>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

[chris judge]

When set to laptop layout, the caps lock acts as a toggle. If you want to
invoke the capslock for instance, if you want to type aan entire word in
caps, press it twice quickly. Jaws will say, caps lock on. Once you are
finished, toggle it off by pressing it twice quickly again.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 7:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

My problem is that I cannot turn the caps lock key back to using it as a
caps lock, so when I type, everything is in caps and if I use the shift key
to capitalize the first letter of something and leave the rest in small
letters, it doesn't work.


- Original Message -
From: "cheez" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed


> Vicki.  You said you wanted to turn the caps lock off when you need to use

> the shift key.
> I may be misunderstanding you here, but, the caps lock and the shift key 
> are 2 different keys.  Therefore, other than using the caps lock in the 
> laptop layout, you wouldn't use the caps lock to capitalize one letter. 
> but you know that.
> Unless you have a strange keyboard like I have that has only one windows 
> key.
>
> Vince
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Vicki W." 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
>
>
>>I was just looking for the key itself, which is the caps lock and how to 
>>turn it off when I need to use the shift key.
>>
>> For some reason, tapping it twice quickly has no effect. If I change the 
>> JAWS key to another key, my caps lock key works fine, so I know it's not 
>> an issue with the physical key on the keyboard.
>>
>> I'm just wondering if there is something else I need to adjust to get it 
>> to function correctly when tapping twice to use as a caps lock key.
>>
>> Vicki
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "David Whitehead" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
>>
>>
>>> not sure what your looking for hear;
>>> the capslock key is the insert key if you are using the laptop layout,
>>> the keystroke to bring up the jaws cursor is: capslock+p,
>>> to bring up the pc cursor, capslock+semi colon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Vicki W.
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:10 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
>>>
>>> Tried that and for some reason it isn't working.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Debby" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
>>>
>>>
 Click the caps lock key twice quickly.

 Debby


 Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 7, 2018, at 9:38 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
>
> Good Morning!
>
> What is the keystroke for turning off the caps lock key temporarily as
> the JAWS cursor when using a laptop keyboard?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

[LeDon]

What a hell of a problem. If you went to your documents folder and then
pressed the ctrl spacebar to insure that no folder had the focus. And then
pressed the application key and arrowed up to, new and pressed enter. And
you pressed return on folder. Then if you typed the name of the folder and
you got a new folder with that name. Then you placed an item  in that folder
and you found that  it was there but when you went back later the folder was
gone. Well then I think that you might have a poltergeist in your new home.
Check out to find  if  other,  mysteries are happening around the home. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 5:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder

Remember that Books folder that I constructed and it then disappeared and I
reconstructed it? I followed someone's directions and backspaced or
something and it sat comfortably in Documents until I used it yesterday. I
transferred The New Yorker magazine into it, and today, when I looked in
Documents. The folder was gone. I'd transferred the magazine to my VR Stream
so the folder was empty. It seems that each time I put it back in documents,
it stays until I use it. After I use it, it disappears. Can anyone make a
suggestion? 64 bit, Win7 IE 11, Jaws 18, Office 365.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

[LeDon]

Vicky, If you have the laptop keyboard configuration set up on your
computer, you should be able to tap quickly on the cap lock key and hear
either cap lock on, or cap lock off. When cap lock is on you will type in
all caps. With the cap lock off you will use the shift key to type an
uppercase letter. You probably already know that. But here's the thing, if
it is not working that way for you, then, it is time to call FS.   
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

I was just looking for the key itself, which is the caps lock and how to
turn it off when I need to use the shift key.

For some reason, tapping it twice quickly has no effect. If I change the
JAWS key to another key, my caps lock key works fine, so I know it's not an
issue with the physical key on the keyboard.

I'm just wondering if there is something else I need to adjust to get it to
function correctly when tapping twice to use as a caps lock key.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: "David Whitehead" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed


> not sure what your looking for hear;
> the capslock key is the insert key if you are using the laptop layout,
> the keystroke to bring up the jaws cursor is: capslock+p,
> to bring up the pc cursor, capslock+semi colon.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Vicki W.
> Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:10 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
>
> Tried that and for some reason it isn't working.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Debby" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
>
>
>> Click the caps lock key twice quickly.
>>
>> Debby
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Feb 7, 2018, at 9:38 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
>>>
>>> Good Morning!
>>>
>>> What is the keystroke for turning off the caps lock key temporarily as
>>> the JAWS cursor when using a laptop keyboard?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Vicki
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

[Debby]

So is the caps  lock key currently acting as the JAWS key? If so, try  the JAWS 
pass through keystroke caps lock plus the letter b. Then press the caps lock 
key. I am not sure if will work but if is worth a try. 

Debby 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2018, at 6:50 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> My problem is that I cannot turn the caps lock key back to using it as a caps 
> lock, so when I type, everything is in caps and if I use the shift key to 
> capitalize the first letter of something and leave the rest in small letters, 
> it doesn't work.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "cheez" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
> 
> 
>> Vicki.  You said you wanted to turn the caps lock off when you need to use 
>> the shift key.
>> I may be misunderstanding you here, but, the caps lock and the shift key are 
>> 2 different keys.  Therefore, other than using the caps lock in the laptop 
>> layout, you wouldn't use the caps lock to capitalize one letter. but you 
>> know that.
>> Unless you have a strange keyboard like I have that has only one windows key.
>> 
>> Vince
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Vicki W." 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 11:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
>> 
>> 
>>> I was just looking for the key itself, which is the caps lock and how to 
>>> turn it off when I need to use the shift key.
>>> 
>>> For some reason, tapping it twice quickly has no effect. If I change the 
>>> JAWS key to another key, my caps lock key works fine, so I know it's not an 
>>> issue with the physical key on the keyboard.
>>> 
>>> I'm just wondering if there is something else I need to adjust to get it to 
>>> function correctly when tapping twice to use as a caps lock key.
>>> 
>>> Vicki
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "David Whitehead" 
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:42 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
>>> 
>>> 
 not sure what your looking for hear;
 the capslock key is the insert key if you are using the laptop layout,
 the keystroke to bring up the jaws cursor is: capslock+p,
 to bring up the pc cursor, capslock+semi colon.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Vicki W.
 Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:10 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
 
 Tried that and for some reason it isn't working.
 
 
 - Original Message - From: "Debby" 
 To: 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:01 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed
 
 
> Click the caps lock key twice quickly.
> 
> Debby
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2018, at 9:38 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
>> 
>> Good Morning!
>> 
>> What is the keystroke for turning off the caps lock key temporarily as
>> the JAWS cursor when using a laptop keyboard?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Vicki
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>> 
>> 
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>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

[Adrian Spratt]

Fernando,

Using your driver update example, I tried a couple of ideas on my system, 
including seeing if the mouseover command would work. It didn't. However, the 
words you indicate are missing from the control appear when I switch to the 
JAWS cursor. 

I'm using a 64-bit Windows 7 machine and right now the last release of JAWS 18. 
I haven't tested this with 2018.

-

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 6:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

Hi Mike,

I have access keys speaking set to All and Tutor Messages to Custom Messages 
Only. However, I tried the Menus and Controls options but the issue is not 
fixed.
It is expected that this setting doesn't fix this issue. This is because tutor 
messages handles speaking of hints given by JAWS on how to operate the focused 
control type with the keyboard; for example, when you are on a button and have 
Tutor Messages to Menus and Controls, JAWS will say using the Tutor Message 
voice: “To activate press space bar.”
These are JAWS-specific messages. Control descriptions are small help texts, 
often just under the control name, which gives information on what a specific 
control does and it's displayed on the screen. For example, when you are in the 
Driver Update wizard for a device in Device Manager, the Search Driver Software 
on your Computer button have a description telling “Search and install the 
driver software manually,” and the button for check automatically tells 
something longer about the searching on the computer and Windows Update unless 
you disabled this in the device installation settings.

Thanks a lot!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 5:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

Hi Fernando,

In Jaws quick settings, Options / Basics try these 2 settings if you haven't 
already.  I know I asked this earlier, but I don't know which settings you 
tried.  Using the settings below produced extra Jaws verbiage, but I just don't 
recall exactly what the control description is supposed to say.

Tutor Messages Announce Menu and Control Help radio button checked
2 of 3

Access Key Speak all radio button checked
2 of 4

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions


Hi Mike,

Thank you for replying.
Yes, I checked both Quick Settings and the Settings Center for the active 
verbosity level. In the active level, which is Beginner, I have checked the 
Control Descriptions item, and changing between long or short messages produce 
the same result on this problem.
Regarding Speech and Sounds Manager, I only changed the Classic scheme to make 
different heading levels to play piano sounds. Even so, I tried reverting to 
the original Classic scheme but, as I supposed, the problem is not fixed.
I also tried running JAWS in English to see if perhaps this is a specific issue 
in the Spanish version (it wouldn't be the first time I must edit a translated 
message missing a %1 or documentation which states things in an order different 
to the actual one, for example), but this issue is also present in English.
I think this should be somewhat related to the FocusChangedEvent, but my 
knowledge of event functions and scripting language in general is poor. As a 
workaround I tried to add the SayControlDescription function in the 
FocusChangedEvent, but it didn't worked at all.

Do you have some other ideas I can try?

Thanks in advance!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 1:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

Hi Fernando,

Without knowing what level of verboscity you run, have you looked to see what 
your settings in the Jaws quick settings / Options / Basics are set at?
You're an advanced / very knowlebgeable Jaws computer operator, so I would 
imagine you have, but just throwing the suggestion out there.  Also has a 
setting in Speech & Sound Schemes possibly changed?
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 7:29 PM
Subject: 

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

[Vicki W.]

My problem is that I cannot turn the caps lock key back to using it as a 
caps lock, so when I type, everything is in caps and if I use the shift key 
to capitalize the first letter of something and leave the rest in small 
letters, it doesn't work.



- Original Message - 
From: "cheez" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed


Vicki.  You said you wanted to turn the caps lock off when you need to use 
the shift key.
I may be misunderstanding you here, but, the caps lock and the shift key 
are 2 different keys.  Therefore, other than using the caps lock in the 
laptop layout, you wouldn't use the caps lock to capitalize one letter. 
but you know that.
Unless you have a strange keyboard like I have that has only one windows 
key.


Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "Vicki W." 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed


I was just looking for the key itself, which is the caps lock and how to 
turn it off when I need to use the shift key.


For some reason, tapping it twice quickly has no effect. If I change the 
JAWS key to another key, my caps lock key works fine, so I know it's not 
an issue with the physical key on the keyboard.


I'm just wondering if there is something else I need to adjust to get it 
to function correctly when tapping twice to use as a caps lock key.


Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "David Whitehead" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed



not sure what your looking for hear;
the capslock key is the insert key if you are using the laptop layout,
the keystroke to bring up the jaws cursor is: capslock+p,
to bring up the pc cursor, capslock+semi colon.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed

Tried that and for some reason it isn't working.


- Original Message - 
From: "Debby" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS keystroke needed



Click the caps lock key twice quickly.

Debby


Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 7, 2018, at 9:38 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:

Good Morning!

What is the keystroke for turning off the caps lock key temporarily as
the JAWS cursor when using a laptop keyboard?

Thanks.

Vicki
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

[Fernando Gregoire]

Hi Mike,

I have access keys speaking set to All and Tutor Messages to Custom Messages 
Only. However, I tried the Menus and Controls options but the issue is not 
fixed.
It is expected that this setting doesn't fix this issue. This is because tutor 
messages handles speaking of hints given by JAWS on how to operate the focused 
control type with the keyboard; for example, when you are on a button and have 
Tutor Messages to Menus and Controls, JAWS will say using the Tutor Message 
voice: “To activate press space bar.”
These are JAWS-specific messages. Control descriptions are small help texts, 
often just under the control name, which gives information on what a specific 
control does and it's displayed on the screen. For example, when you are in the 
Driver Update wizard for a device in Device Manager, the Search Driver Software 
on your Computer button have a description telling “Search and install the 
driver software manually,” and the button for check automatically tells 
something longer about the searching on the computer and Windows Update unless 
you disabled this in the device installation settings.

Thanks a lot!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 5:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

Hi Fernando,

In Jaws quick settings, Options / Basics try these 2 settings if you haven't 
already.  I know I asked this earlier, but I don't know which settings you 
tried.  Using the settings below produced extra Jaws verbiage, but I just don't 
recall exactly what the control description is supposed to say.

Tutor Messages Announce Menu and Control Help radio button checked
2 of 3

Access Key Speak all radio button checked
2 of 4

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions


Hi Mike,

Thank you for replying.
Yes, I checked both Quick Settings and the Settings Center for the active 
verbosity level. In the active level, which is Beginner, I have checked the 
Control Descriptions item, and changing between long or short messages 
produce the same result on this problem.
Regarding Speech and Sounds Manager, I only changed the Classic scheme to 
make different heading levels to play piano sounds. Even so, I tried 
reverting to the original Classic scheme but, as I supposed, the problem is 
not fixed.
I also tried running JAWS in English to see if perhaps this is a specific 
issue in the Spanish version (it wouldn't be the first time I must edit a 
translated message missing a %1 or documentation which states things in an 
order different to the actual one, for example), but this issue is also 
present in English.
I think this should be somewhat related to the FocusChangedEvent, but my 
knowledge of event functions and scripting language in general is poor. As a 
workaround I tried to add the SayControlDescription function in the 
FocusChangedEvent, but it didn't worked at all.

Do you have some other ideas I can try?

Thanks in advance!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 1:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions

Hi Fernando,

Without knowing what level of verboscity you run, have you looked to see 
what your settings in the Jaws quick settings / Options / Basics are set at?
You're an advanced / very knowlebgeable Jaws computer operator, so I would 
imagine you have, but just throwing the suggestion out there.  Also has a 
setting in Speech & Sound Schemes possibly changed?
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 7:29 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions


Hi all,



Since many versions ago, JAWS is not reading the control descriptions even 
when I have this item checked in the current verbosity level settings. If I 
want to get this data, I manually have to locate the Touch Cursor with 
Advanced Object Navigation on the desired control, press ALT+ENTER and find 
the value of the HelpText property, which obviously is slow and often 
useless.

Does someone know how I could fix this to match the behavior of some old 
versions like JAWS 9, in which this verbosity setting was always honored? I 
am using Windows 10 Fall Creators Update and JAWS