[lace] Aurelia Loveman Has a New Email Address
Hi All, My mother has a new Comcast internet connection, so she'll be stopping her Earthlink subscription soon. Her new email address is aurelialoveman...@comcast.net. Please make the change in your address book and keep writing to her! Jonathan Levi (son) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Mother's Moved to Assisted Living
Hi All, This is Jonathan, Aurelia's son. Just in case any of you don't know, Mother was moved out of her home following her last hospitalization, and now lives in the Heart Lands Senior Living Center, 3004 North Ridge Road, Ellicott City, MD. You can reach her via her cell phone, 443-388-1713, or via Heart Lands's own phones, (410) 461-5935 or (410) 461-9494. She and Tamara (who's made a really terrific accommodation and has become much friendlier) would love to see you and hear from you. At present she doesn't have her Internet connection--we're working on it. Jonathan (email drjle...@aol.com) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Love and spelling
Dear Spiders —— Have you seen the beautiful new green little disk 2011 IOLI Charter Chapter Pattern CD? If not, then quick quick! I had only one little tiny complaint: note the correct spelling for Ortolan. As ortolan means nightingale, we can see how important it is to get it right. Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Lace stocking front
I should think that it would have been the editor's job to disentangle this puzzle. But what a nice idea, stocking fronts. Still, in those days of floor-length dresses, I would hope that ornamental stockings were at the bottom of every- body's to-do list. Aurelia -Original Message- From: Alex Stillwell alexstillw...@talktalk.net Sent: Nov 21, 2010 2:01 AM To: stevieni...@gmail.com Cc: Diana Smith dian...@tiscali.co.uk, Arachne reply lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Lace stocking front Hi Natalie There is picture of two stocking fronts in 'The Romance of the Lace Pillow' by Thomas Wright. In my edition they are in volume 1, opposite page 37. However, there is something not quite right about the caption. It says stocking fronts were used in Queen Elizabeth's day. However, these have the periwinkle pattern worked in Regency Bucks and I believe this was a Victorian development of Bucks point lace. Perhaps these are not stocking fronts after all. Diana Smith has the prickings for these. Can you add any more information Diana? Keep lacemaking Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] 7 Centuries of Lace
It's an old book (1908) and written from a point of view that makes it seem very old. The glory of this book is its 120 full-page plates, excellent photos so that you can really see the details. What meager text there is is mostly devoted to explicating these pictured laces. If you are looking for a book on the history of lace, this book is not it. But if you want to know the differing techniques of many different laces, this book would be of interest. I bought it in 1986 and thought it worth the price ($120), which might give you some idea for comparison with the copy you are considering. Aurelia Loveman - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Fiber familiarity
No, dear Devon, though your sentiments are admirable, your slogan is not. Of the four words in the slogan, tedious is by far the most immediately conspicuous, and that is what would be remembered. Try again, and maybe we can all try with you. Aurelia -Original Message- From: dmt11h...@aol.com Sent: Aug 10, 2010 12:46 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Fiber familiarity I find it rather discouraging that the children are not interested in bobbin lace and the adults say it is too tedious. Is there some way we could demonstrate bobbin lace that would not provoke the tedious response? Mind you, these people are attending a county fair, not a rave, or a convention for people with short attention spans. The IOLI has professed a desire to recruit more members, especially youngish ones. I suggest that we adopt the slogan, Lace, it's not tedious. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Getting there, getting there
Yoga in thread! Now that's a big step forward. Until we think of something that's even better, Yoga in Thread sounds good. Let's try it and see what responses we get. Aurelia Cc: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Re: Fiber familiarity In a message dated 8/10/2010 3:02:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lynrbai...@supernet.com writes: We live in a time when people want to do 'crafts' that are quick, frequently with glue guns. And that's fine. But there are people who are not interested in the quick and easy. Those who make those Fair Isle sweaters, or knitted lace shawls on size zero needles. They are few and far between now, possibly because there is more instant gratification, from TV, from the internet, from the way our culture functions, so the quick satisfaction becomes the standard. While there are certainly people who are actually attracted to projects that take a long time and are very picky, it is that characterization that has limited the growth of bobbin lace to a very small portion of the population. The question is, if that is not the kind of thing that appeals to you (and I can't say that doing things the hard way appeals to me) what is it that lace has to offer you? What is the gratification, if not instant? I actually find that when I am making lace, I often find myself in a zone, almost a hynotic trance where I have pleasant thoughts. I find that, for instance, I do not feel as great a need to eat compulsively when I am in this zone. The focus of hands and mind, especially in very difficult patterns, gives me a bit of a buzz. Bobbin Lace: Yoga with Thread Bobbin Lace: Where Fiber Art and Meditation Meet Bobbin Lace: Threaditation Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] An import duty on Springett bobbins?
Dear spiders —— I believe there is no import duty on antiques. Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace]
Hello Lorelei —— I went back to my old books in the hunt for Venetian lace, most notably Point and Pillow Lace by A.M.S. published in 1899 (no clue as to who A.M.S. was), and also to Old Lace by M. Jourdain, published in 1909; and both of them appear to have in mind mostly Venetian Rose Point and its var- ious relatives (all needle laces). The books themselves are delightful, partic- ularly the Jourdain, full of beautiful plates. This is a book that one cannot put down without first looking at every page, no matter how late the evening is getting to be! Aurelia Loveman Catonsville, Maryland -Original Message- From: Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.com Sent: Jul 12, 2010 4:27 PM To: Aurelia Loveman aurel...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [lace] Venetian lace Aurelia I'm just wondering: did you see our responses to your Tebbs question? Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Venetian lace
Dear spiders —— Help! I have been reading an ancient book, Tebbs' Art of Bobbin Lace. It's as different as can be from the contemporary publications that we use nowadays. Reading along in it, I came to a chapter on Venetian Lace. No explanation given as to what it is. I looked about in all my other books, nobody else has anything to say about Venetian lace. If it could have been a reference to needle lace, it wouldn't have been a problem, but the book is only about bobbin lace. Does anybody have any idea as to what Venetian lace might be? Aurelia Catonsville, Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Lace definition
Hello, Brenda! Here is a quote from a catalogue published in 1989 by the Baltimore Museum of Art in connection with an exhibition of the Museum's extensive lace collection: Lace is a textile whose identity depends entirely on the arrangement and proportion of the spaces between the threads that form the fabric. Textiles other than lace also feature spaces or actual holes in the work, but only as ornament, not fundament. Lace requires a preponderance of empty space over thread. However, this is not sufficient to define the textile; net, for instance, fulfils the condition of preponderant space, but is not lace. The term lace applies only when the holes and threads are perceived as forming figured patterns on ground. Aurelia Catonsville, Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Somebody using my email address!
Dear spiders —— I see that somebody used my email address to put an obscene message out in my name. Please ignore it. Perhaps best not to open it, as it may contain a virus. Aurelia Catonsville, Maryland - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Needlelace class
Dear All: ...but if you can't get Irma Osterman's book, don't cry. Cathy Barley's wonderful books are available. And for a lifelong inspiration, try Venetian Gros Point by Lovesey Barley! Aurelia Loveman Catonsville, MD -Original Message- From: Janice Blair jbl...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Apr 18, 2010 11:10 AM To: dmt11h...@aol.com, lace lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Needlelace class Thanks to everyone who has told me the book is still available. Hope I get it before everyone else rushes over to the site. :-) Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org From: dmt11h...@aol.com dmt11h...@aol.com To: jbl...@sbcglobal.net; lace@arachne.com Sent: Sat, April 17, 2010 10:50:31 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Needlelace class Holly has it listed in her on-line catalogue at www.vansciverbobbinlace.com. Devon In a message dated 4/17/2010 8:04:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jbl...@sbcglobal.net writes: Does anyone know if Irma Osterman's Lace made with a needle is still in print and available anywhere. It is full of good tips. Janice - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] photos added to webshots
For textile lovers like me, there are now one knitted shawl, one lace fan, and one tapestry to be seen in my album on the Arachne webshots community. Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Forget it!
Dear Clay -- Don't get bogged down in that who-did-what-first mud puddle! A good idea remains a good idea -- consider Leibnitz and Isaac Newton, both had the same brilliant idea at the same time. We don't love you for your ingenuity, dear Clay, we love you for your lovability. Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Pronouncing question
Hello, German-speaking spiders! What is the right way to pronounce the word Grammatik? Is it GRAM-ma-tik? Or is it Gram-MA-tik? Thank you for your help! Aurelia Baltimore USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Both pix arrived!
Dear Clay -- Thank you! Both pictures arrived, even clearer than in the book itself. How did you manage that?? I can just see that jabot on Justice Ginsburg, poor dear, she looks so tired and ill, a beautiful jabot is just what she needs. And wearing his, Justice Roberts will look, if possible, even handsomer than he does already. I had an odd epiphany of sorts. I always regarded a jabot as a decoration, much as a piece of costume jewelry might be, and never thought more about it. Then yesterday, being in a hurry to get out the door, I picked up my bowl of soup, nevermind bothering with a spoon. Two seconds later I was snatching for a Kleenex to tuck under my chin, and lo! a practical jabot. Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: [lace-chat] US Justice Sonia Sotomayor and her Lace
Hello, Sherry -- I'm so pleased that you like the idea and intend to join us. There's no hurry, I am still collecting ideas and jaboteers. Different opinions haven't yet jelled as to whether we should all make the same pattern, or can we differ. I imagine that it will take us about another month to settle in on a decision. After that happens, we can start. Hopefully all will be finished by the spring of 2010. We'll all stay in touch. I tried scanning the excellent picture in Alex Stillwell's remarkably good book, but didn't have much success. The book itself is so delightful that when you are next in a book-buying mood, that's the book to get! -- Aurelia Aurelia, I am very interested in participating. Do you know what time frame you are looking at to finish these jabots? I must finish a wedding garter I am working on first. Also, I do not have the book so haven't seen the pattern. Does anyone have a picture of the lace scanned so that I can see it? I like the idea of the jabots being the same, but with perhaps a unique element in each. I will be interested to see where this goes. Thanks, Sherry Naleszkiewicz -Original Message- From: Aurelia Loveman aurel...@earthlink.net Sent: Oct 5, 2009 5:50 PM To: Lorri Ferguson lorri...@msn.com Cc: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Re: [lace-chat] US Justice Sonia Sotomayor and her Lace Dear Lorri -- So far I have had four responses (that's including you). When we have nine willing jabot-makers, we will proceed with the legalistics. Meanwhile, I suggest we take a look at the truly gorgeous handkerchief-jabot that is Project 7 (Plate 6) in Alexandra Stillwell's Geometrical Bucks Point Lace. When this project begins to look for real, I will have a chat with my lawyer. Just off the cuff, I don't know that one needs to ask permission to send a present. I should think we could send nine jabots in a beautiful box, together with a graceful letter about ourselves and the revival of handmade lace. Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Re: finding books etc in the Archives
Well, I just had a look at the Two-Pair Inventions, and got carried away with admiration and delight. I do not believe that the lace artist who designed those adorable little items can possibly have lost her inventive juices. I think that she must be doing what most artists do, namely, just taking a rest. Aurelia On Oct 7, 2009, at 16:46, Aurelia Loveman wrote: Two-Pair Inventions -- sounds like J.S. Bach to me. That was intentional; my son was learning to play Two-*Part* Inventions at the time. Seemed like a nice word-play (something I always found hard to resist g). Cindy Hutton (of the Norfolk/VA Beach lace group) designed the first cover, with the clef, when I donated the first version to their Lace Day's goodie bags. Add a Three-Pair Inventions to it and you no longer have just a booklet, but a book. That would be a delight. Why don't you? Because my Inventive juices aren't flowing as freely now as they used to :) I started with an experiment, on a small scale, exploring the possibilities of how far one could push just two pairs. The thing grew and the booklet/monograph that's now at the Arizona U site is almost double the original size (including an experiment/reworking of one of the small centres in wire, by Paula Harten, then of California). Good times... :) Three pairs don't sing the same siren song of discovery. On the one hand, there already exists the distinct lace technique -- 3-Pair Fiandra -- the pattern body of which keeps growing, even though the number of its teachers is limited. On the other hand... I suppose I could apply what I've learnt, over the past couple of years, about mid-16th c laces (a 3-pr tape or a 3-strand plait, using a pair as a strand, each branching off, in distinct ways and in various directions) to a Three-Pair Fantasia and it *would* be richer than a 2-pair experiment. But... not *sufficiently* richer, to merit the effort :) The thing will have to stay as it is. And, all things considered, it's not a bad effort, even if I say so myself. If you don't mind oodles of sewings... if you need practice at leaf tallies... if you want a Christmas ornament which won't take weeks to make... You might want to give it a try :) http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/monographs.html#D scroll down to Duvall For colour pictures of the snowflakes go to my website (URL in the signature) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Jabot project
Hello Pene -- Yes, I think you are right about directing the jabots to the Court rather than to the nine individuals. With that in mind, and thinking about it, I come to conclude with you that a variety of designs would be more interesting than just the one design repeated and repeated. And no, I haven't seen Alex's jabot in the 1997 calendar, I would love to. Exactly how we would produce nine jabots out of 50 states, I can't imagine! What did you mean? P.S. The list of willing jabot-makers is growing, albeit slowly, but nevertheless growing. Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Re: finding books etc in the Archives
Two-Pair Inventions -- sounds like J.S. Bach to me. Add a Three-Pair Inventions to it and you no longer have just a booklet, but a book. That would be a delight. Why don't you? -- Aurelia On Oct 5, 2009, at 17:57, Noelene Lafferty wrote: Thanks for that Tess. Wouldn't it be nice if there were more lovely people like Alex in this world. Hey, I'm a nice person, too :) With Tess's kind help/hard work (sine qua non) I was able to make my own booklet (Two-Pair Inventions pamphlet) available for everyone. Only, to find mine, you have to go to Monographs (rather than Books) to find it. And, of course, it no longer makes any money for The Lace Museum in Sunnyvale... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: [lace-chat] US Justice Sonia Sotomayor and her Lace
Dear Lorri -- So far I have had four responses (that's including you). When we have nine willing jabot-makers, we will proceed with the legalistics. Meanwhile, I suggest we take a look at the truly gorgeous handkerchief-jabot that is Project 7 (Plate 6) in Alexandra Stillwell's Geometrical Bucks Point Lace. When this project begins to look for real, I will have a chat with my lawyer. Just off the cuff, I don't know that one needs to ask permission to send a present. I should think we could send nine jabots in a beautiful box, together with a graceful letter about ourselves and the revival of handmade lace. Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Re: [lace-chat] US Justice Sonia Sotomayor and her Lace
Hello everybody, and hello especially to Tony and Shirley for waking up an idea that was floating about here, some years ago, and went fast asleep for some reason. Some of us here are yearning after Project 7 in Alex Stillwell's book on Geometric Bucks Point. It is the world's most gorgeous jabot. Just what the justices on the US Supreme Court really need, don't you think? Male as well as female. Can we produce nine jabots in the coming year and put the US Supreme Court on the fashion map? Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] An aficot
There is a picture of an aficot in the new Salex Dictionary of Lacemaking, and also an explanation of what it does and how it is used. Author: Alex Stillwell. Aurelia Catonsville (Baltimore) MD - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Embroidered with White by Heather Toomer - Book Review
Dear Jeri -- So interesting even if it may be a bit of old hat to embroiderers like us! The title of the old book does get to me somewhat (WeibStickereien -- Weib means female; Stickereien means embroideries). This particular female made a pulled-work sampler some thirty years ago, which I will be proud to show you when you come to Maryland in 2011 for the convention. I went on from white and did it in red and gold work, and it still pleases me hugely. Thank you for the delightful book review! Aurelia Catonsville, Maryland Embroidered with White - The 18th century fashion for Dresden lace and other whiteworked accessories By Heather Toomer, with drawings patterns by Elspeth Reed Published by Heather Toomer Antique Lace 2008, paper cover, 180 pages Cover price 19.75 English pounds ISBN 978-0-9542730-2-6 Ordering info in separate memo, sent today -- Dear Lace Historians and Costumers on _l...@arachne_ (mailto:l...@arachne) , Once in a while a book comes along for which there is no equal, such as Embroidered with White, by Heather Toomer, published in English. Many of us who could not read the German language Dresdner Spitzen - Point de Saxe - Virtuose WeiBstickereien des 18.Jahrhunderts by Ruth Bleckwenn (which I mentioned in a review dated July 28, 2003 ) will be thrilled to have this new book. (At _http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/index.html_ (http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/index.html)search for Point de Dresden, to find my earlier comments on this subject and the German language book.) In lace, we use categories as descriptors: Bobbin, Needle, Tatting, Crochet, Tambour, etc. In embroidery, there are categories as well. One of them is Whitework which applies to diverse techniques embroidered in white thread on white foundation fabric. The finished embroidered product is sometimes combined with lace. It can be a challenge to see where embroidery ends and lace begins! And because many white embroideries are called lace, there is some confusion. (Limerick, Carrickmacross, and even Tambouring are examples - all have a pre-existing foundation fabric.) In this book, very detailed captions and text are most instructive in that (by example) they instruct on how to study, analyze, and compare to needlelaces. This embroidery was often made to emulate the effect of lace, without violating sumptuary laws that forbade the wearing of lace by classes beneath royalty. Most of the costume accessories are stitched by a technique known in both the lace and embroidery communities as Dresden work or Point de Dresden. This embroidery was on a transparent even weave white fabric. Some threads in the base fabric were withdrawn and others were deflected by use of embroidery stitches that were so tight they left the visual effect of being lace. Such a wealth of information is easier to absorb in small doses. I read this book over a period of 3 weeks, at times using a magnifier to closely examine the many photos. All the photos, drawings and diagrams are very clear. This is not a how-to instruction book. Titles for instruction books today usually refer to pulled work or drawn/withdrawn work, and classes are most likely offered by embroiderers' guilds. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Embroidered with White by Heather Toomer - Book Review
Dear Jeri -- Re-reading your interesting book review for the tenth time: could the B in WeiBstickereien really be that funny double-S that we used to see in Elizabethan times, and that I think probably still appears in German? In which case, the WeiB would just mean white. Aurelia Embroidered with White - The 18th century fashion for Dresden lace and other whiteworked accessories By Heather Toomer, with drawings patterns by Elspeth Reed Published by Heather Toomer Antique Lace 2008, paper cover, 180 pages Cover price 19.75 English pounds ISBN 978-0-9542730-2-6 Ordering info in separate memo, sent today -- Dear Lace Historians and Costumers on _l...@arachne_ (mailto:l...@arachne) , Once in a while a book comes along for which there is no equal, such as Embroidered with White, by Heather Toomer, published in English. Many of us who could not read the German language Dresdner Spitzen - Point de Saxe - Virtuose WeiBstickereien des 18.Jahrhunderts by Ruth Bleckwenn (which I mentioned in a review dated July 28, 2003 ) will be thrilled to have this new book. (At _http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/index.html_ (http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/index.html)search for Point de Dresden, to find my earlier comments on this subject and the German language book.) In lace, we use categories as descriptors: Bobbin, Needle, Tatting, Crochet, Tambour, etc. In embroidery, there are categories as well. One of them is Whitework which applies to diverse techniques embroidered in white thread on white foundation fabric. The finished embroidered product is sometimes combined with lace. It can be a challenge to see where embroidery ends and lace begins! And because many white embroideries are called lace, there is some confusion. (Limerick, Carrickmacross, and even Tambouring are examples - all have a pre-existing foundation fabric.) In this book, very detailed captions and text are most instructive in that (by example) they instruct on how to study, analyze, and compare to needlelaces. This embroidery was often made to emulate the effect of lace, without violating sumptuary laws that forbade the wearing of lace by classes beneath royalty. Most of the costume accessories are stitched by a technique known in both the lace and embroidery communities as Dresden work or Point de Dresden. This embroidery was on a transparent even weave white fabric. Some threads in the base fabric were withdrawn and others were deflected by use of embroidery stitches that were so tight they left the visual effect of being lace. Such a wealth of information is easier to absorb in small doses. I read this book over a period of 3 weeks, at times using a magnifier to closely examine the many photos. All the photos, drawings and diagrams are very clear. This is not a how-to instruction book. Titles for instruction books today usually refer to pulled work or drawn/withdrawn work, and classes are most likely offered by embroiderers' guilds. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] our USA ioli adventure part 1
Francis, try Hershey's Nuggets. Aurelia Catonsville MD USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lace in Germany?
The collection in the Braunschweig museum is apparently available again. If I'm not mistaken, Yvonne Scheele-Kerkhof was there last year and saw it. If it really is open, it's worth going to see, as it's a marvelous collection. Aurelia Baltimore, Maryland Hello Jenny, if you want to see laces in Germany you must start in the south in Abenberg. There is a museum with lace. Next would be the Erzgebirge Schneeberg, Annaberg and Schwarzenberg. In Brauschweig in the art museum was some years ago, if it is still so I don't know, one small room with laces from a famous German collector. In the north in Hamburg in the Museum fpr the applied Art in German Museum für Kunst und Gewerbe all laces are in the depot. You can make an appointment, at least 2 or 3 months in advance, and it cost round about 60 Euro. For a group it would be payable for a single person it's much. In Flensburg in the museum you find a little bit lace. In Dortmund, western part of Germany, are also some laces to see but most of them behind the open space. If you want I can look for the adresses. And if you are a member of Laceguild you find in the last issue an article about Erzgebirge. Hope this helps a bit. Greetings Ilske in Hamburg - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Re: [lace-chat] We did it
Sue -- I've rescued quite a number of antique fans, saving and (gently) cleaning the sticks and (eventually) discarding the worn-out fan-leaf. Malvary's advice to you is right on target. Also, you would enjoy reading Christine Springett's little book Designing and Mounting Lace Fans, written quite a while ago, but still inspiring. Believe me, you will no longer feel so frustrated, once you have read that. Aurelia Catonsville, Maryland USA After hearing me moan he took pity on me and found what I had been hunting for and not seeing. Not sure if I am blind or stupid, g Anyway the photo of the fansticks is up live now, so if anyone can tell me anything about them ie what they might be made of I would appreciate it. They are not like the newer brown plastic ones, I think the fan had what was once a pretty silk fabric in it but its in a poor state now. I thought that it might go on my list of things I would like to do one day. I am absolutely no good with fabric things but have been considering making lace to attach. Still the question is about the sticks, I bet there are lots of other choices but plastic, bone or ivory that I dont know about but one of you nice people do. Many thanks BTW the album is called Hurwitzend (which was exactly where I was at) Sue T Dorset, UK Bobbin Lace and Glass engravings http://www.hurwitzend.co.uk To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Risque humor etc.
...humor?...in my opinion David Collyer should stick to his lacemaking, which is what he does well. Aurelia Catonsville MD - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Marian Powys lace notebooks
Hello Devon -- Can't help you about Vatican laces, but if you are still interested in what Marian Powys put together, there are a couple of her notebooks residing in the library of the Walters Art Museum here in Baltimore, containing samples of lots of different laces, and carrying her annotations. You can see a fuller description of these notebooks in the Bulletin of the Needle and Bobbin Club vol.68 (1985) and I think that Tess Parrish made this available to the professor for his oeuvre, and thus to all of us. Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Lace maker vs. lacemaker
There isn't really a right and a wrong in these matters of usage. Authoritative dictionaries are not much help. Long periods of time and changes in taste are what ultimately settle such questions. Try any of the following: dress maker -- shoe maker -- book seller -- hair dresser -- brick layer -- school teacher -- type writer I think we might prefer: dressmaker, shoemaker, bookseller, hairdresser, bricklayer, schoolteacher, typewriter. Those of us who love language do get to have strong feelings about these things. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] lacemaking or lace making
I think this is one of those questions that eventually gets answered by determined usage over a prolonged time period. Note that in the IOLI Bulletin we always use lacemaking. Aurelia Baltimore, Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Oya
There is a page and a half of beautifully-illustrated instructions on how to make oya, in Alexandra Stillwell's new book Salex Illustrated Dictionary of Lacemaking. Aurelia Catonsville, Maryland - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Reply to Janice
Hello Janice and Arachnes -- Miss Channer's mat is a (beautiful) oval, about 13-1/2 inches at its longest, from top to bottom; and about 8 inches at its widest. It is entirely made up of small floral Bucks motifs, leaves, flowers and so on, joined by smallish bits of the usual fillings, point ground, Mayflower, honeycomb. I would think that each of these things could comfortably fit on a block pillow. The mat has an indescribable charm. Aurelia Catonsville, Maryland - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] The URL for DC's Toender piece
Would somebody please post again the URL for D Collyer's Toender lace? In struggling to get it opened, I inadvertently sent it flying off into space. Thank you! Aurelia Catonsville, Maryland - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] baby gift
Dear Wendy -- Make her a lace rose. She can wear it on her christening gown, she can put it into her hair when she is in her teens, she can add it to her wedding veil, and when she is a grandma she can teach it to her granddaughters. Aurelia Baltimore, Maryland Hi All Can anyone suggest a piece for me to do for a new grandaughter due in March, so she can have it as a keepsake. I am doing a card but I wanted something special, nothing too complicated though please. I thought of maybe getting her a little dress and making a lace border for it but then she will grow out of that so I am stumped. thanks Wendy St Dogmales _ Check out the new and improved services from Windows Live. Learn more! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Re: needlelace
Those interested in needlelace might like to have a look at my blog: http://aurelove.blogster.com I was taught needlelace by my mother and grandmother, and began doing it in earnest when I was about ten years old (which means I have been making it for the last 82 years!! Good Lord, the time does fly). As I have won national awards for my work, including a first prize for one of the EGA biennials (EGA: Embroiderers Guild of America), I think I can reasonably have a say. So: yes, you can do needlelace in the hand, without a pillow. And many lacers are more comfortable with a pillow to work on. It's not a big deal either way. To my mind, the greatest thing about this technique is that it encourages original design. If you can imagine something, you can realize it in needlelace. The technique itself places very few limits on what can be done; and the necessary equipment for doing it is fairly negligible -- just some beautiful threads wanted. Aurelia Baltimore, Maryland - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Anna magazine, and lace content
Dear Jeri and Arachnes -- Note that the BMA (Baltimore Museum of Art), which is about as lofty as you can get, short of the Metropolitan in New York, is having a Textile Day on Sunday, May 17. The lacemakers will have a booth, the embroiderers will have a booth... we will be displaying our lace, demonstrating equipment, techniques... things are looking up! Aurelia Baltimore, Maryland Dear Jacquie and Julie and Others Interested, A membership to a Guild might be more satisfying, and provide more additional benefits to you. If we don't support the Guild's, they will die. Most of our teachers are as a result of the Guilds and the programs they provide to develop expertise. Most of our instructional books are from these teachers. Arachnes - Demonstrate! Give talks! Set up exhibits! Wear handmade lace in public places! Do what you can to increase the number of people who enjoy working with needles, bobbins, crochet hooks, knitting needles, etc. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] starching
Hello Sue -- I have just finished one of Hanne Sonne's angels, I left it on the pillow just as I worked it, with a plastic cover over the pricking, and left all the pins in it, too. I didn't use starch at all, but used what I have done many times before -- half-and-half Elmer's starch and water, applied with a Q-tip. It dried perfectly clear. I took out the pins after a day or so, and the angel (stiff!) looked lovely. Lots of luck. Aurelia Catonsville, MD Hi to all, does anyone know of a cheap skate way of starching lace on the pillow, I worked an angel on the pillow with a plastic over the pricking but my Monrovia starch has gone funny and as I remember it cost rather a lot of pennies when I bought it I do not want to go to that expense at the moment.I do have in my stash some Berol glue that says it dries transparent and some Royal Coat decoupage glue, has anyone tried either on lace? Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace starching
Sorry, where was my head? What I used was half-and-half Elmer's GLUE and water. Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Large lace patterns
Dear Clay -- Now that is one of the most helpful messages we have ever got on Arachne, and we all of us have to thank you for it. -- Aurelia I needed a pillow for a large project. I ordered foam blocks from Ken van Dieren (he's in the US, as I am, but I'm sure you can find a source in the UK). My pillow is wider than it is high, because I reasoned that the space at the top would be wasted. So, I have three 5.5 blocks on each side, and three 11 blocks going down the middle. (14 and 28 cm) so the total width is 22 (about 56 cm) and the height is 16.5 (42 cm). I started my work near the top of the center block, and as I've progressed, I've just moved the blocks up. I also made a pair of half-blocks which are 11 wide but only 2.75 deep. This makes it easier to move the blocks in smaller steps. My blocks are covered first with a layer of felt and then with navy twill. It is a very satisfactory pillow, and I expect to use it for a lot of things. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: midlands bobbins and spangling
Well, here is a quote from a little booklet put out by the City of Exeter Museums and Art Gallery: In the 17th and 18th centuries the industry seems to have been a prosperous one with lace worth L6 a yard in 1698. The workers were craftswomen and able to maintain a decent standard of living. They were a respectable, orderly lot, to judge by Dr. James Young's description in 1702 of the Coronation (of Queen Anne) celebrations in Honiton: 'Saw a very pretty procession of 300 girls in good order, two and two march with 3 women drummers beating...' This delightful booklet also contains an essay written in 1897 by Primrose (actually Ida Pike, later Mrs. Ida Allen) in which she describes a day in her life. It makes absolutely riveting reading, After she got married, she ran a lace shop in the town of Beer for the next 45 years and was still running it in 1965 when she was interviewed by a local newspaper. Aurelia Catonsville, MD What a good question. There are so many variables that were not in the equation back then... I've never seen a sociological study that took a culture and projected it forward based on modern advances. That doesn't mean there haven't been any of course... but just that they haven't crossed my horizon. On the flip side of that, I've often wondered where and who I would be, had I been born 300 years ago. I'm certain I would not be swathed in lace and living in luxury. I wonder if I had a wooden floor to walk on, or was it sod? I wonder if my home had more than one room? I wonder if there were glazed windows? I wonder if I shared my living quarters with the livestock? I don't like to even consider the issues of children... how many were born and then died before they reached their toddler years... To even consider working lace, given the challenges that our ancient forebears had, is humbling. Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA, USA bev walker wrote: What would those makers of lace for the cottage industry do if they lived 'now' instead of 'then'? Would they be technical workers at a factory, would they be secretaries, bank clerks (erm, customer sales representatives..), medical assistants? Would they be interested in a hobby of lacemaking necessarily? I don't know the answer, but I do wonder. On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: women who made lace to provide for their families hardly gave a thought to pretty bobbins or spangles. Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Handkerchief edging
Christine Springett has a very nice one in Lace for Special Occasions. I made it a couple of months ago and the bride was ecstatic. It's quick and easy and has a very pretty hearts motif. Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Siebmacher - what type of lace
Dear Lynn -- Schnidtene...Schniden, it's just that there are some four centuries or so separating us and our up-to-date standardized language from dear Johann S. If you say his words aloud, it becomes obvious that they have to do with cutwork. Aurelia I love the internet! I recently learned that Johann Siebmacher's 1597 Neues Modelbuch was online here: http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/~db/0002/bsb00026001/images/index.html?seite=5 Much of the book is two or three-color graphs for use in embroidery (or anything you might use a charted pattern for). But some of the patterns are labelled for something -Schnidtene http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/~db/0002/bsb00026001/images/index.html?seite=67 and something-Schniden [sic] http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/~db/0002/bsb00026001/images/index.html?seite=79 What do you think, Arachne friends? What might these patterns from 1597 have been for? I think it is some kind of cutwork like reticella, but 16th century English is hard enough, let alone 16th c. German. Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA http://lost-arts.blogspot.com/ Ravelry ID: alwen - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Two minutes of fame
Thought you all might like to know that if you wait long enough (in my case 91-1/2 years) you can finally get your two minutes of fame (mine having recently come in the newest Who's Who in America). My lacemaking interests are noted there, which pleases me, although they didn't include mention of my blog, Needle Lace in Five Easy Lessons. Ah well, can't have everything. Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbin Lace Jewelry in sterling silver??
Dear all -- My niece, who is a jeweler (polishedandputtogether.com) tells me that there is a most exciting jewelry-making technique in which gold or silver is broken down into minuscule bits and mixed with a special clay, giving the mixture somewhat the texture and flexibility of cord. This cord is then handled according to the jeweler-artist's imagination (lacemakers would of course be thinking about lace).When the piece is finished, it is fired; the clay vanishes; and lo! you have gold lace. Aurelia Catonsville, MD Hi All- Some time ago there was a very interesting discussion about bobbin lace jewelry. Somebody pointed out the most beautiful bobbin lace colliers made in sterling silver (I think). Another person pointed out a book published by Ladies in Lithuania. Unfortunately I lost all this information and I am still intrigued (more like obsessed) with this way of bobbin lace making. Would you be able to help me and point me to the right websites or contact information? Many, many thanks Julia in rainy St. Louis - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] The lace dictionary
Dear Alex -- As I am one of your many admirers, and am greatly looking forward to the new dictionary, I am going to allow myself (cheeky! permissible! Arachne) and please note the __correct__ spelling of permissible and of Arachne) to suggest that you use the services of a proofreader as you go along. None of us, and surely not you, would want to see blemishes such as misspelled words, in a work that we all know is going to be a classic. If you would like to e-mail your A chapter to me, I would be very happy to make a gift to mankind (or, more likely, lacemaking womankind) and proofread it for you. As I am an experienced proofreader, editor, writer, and have got a doctorate from Columbia University, I am feeling freer than I might otherwise be in suggesting this to you. Best wishes! Aurelia Catonsville, Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Randy Anthony
As soon as I recovered,last evening, from the shock and excitement of Debbie's e-mail, I googled for Randy Anthony, but so far again walking into a wall. Does anyone know a bobbin-maker living in Georgia named Randy Anthony? Aurelia Catonsville, Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Ivory? Bone? What else?
I have a couple of scrimshaw bobbins that I was given, decades and decades ago, by a sailor (the new husband, or about-to-be-husband of a lacemaker), bobbins that he made while he was on a long voyage. They could be made of bone; and they could be made of ivory. I know nothing about scrimshaw, nor what this decoration is applied to. Unlikely to be bone (bone on a long voyage?). And unlikely to be ivory, for obvious reasons ($$). So what could they be? P.S. I have tried and tried and TRIED, over these many years, to find out who the above-mentioned couple might be. No luck. Aurelia Catonsville, Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Pillow help needed - block pillow
Dear Clay, and all-- I might be sent out of Arachne altogether for owning up to this, but what I did before I became a lacemaker was -- nothing to do with textiles. I was a practicing psychologist and psychoanalyst, and in my spare time which I had very little of, I was a writer (numberless short stories, and a novel [publ by Wm. Morrow, reprinted in England bu H. Hamilton, and into paperback by Avon]. I did, though, sometimes make my own clothes. What I really did a lot of was: hanker. I dreamed of some day learning how to make lace. I had tried, at about age ten or twelve, to follow the description in the Children's Encyclopedia, in which they described how lace was made: threads wound around a design outlined by pins. Of course that didn't work! When I came to live in Baltimore (age 50) I made friends with a famous weaver (Sylvia Pocock, now long gone) who confessed that she too had been wanting for years to make lace. We looked and inquired and left no stone unturned, and lo! we came upon an ancient lady, Elizabeth Kackenmeister (also a famous weaver) who knew how to make lace, and gave us one lesson a month when she came into this area for meetings of the organization Twenty Weavers. Ah, but once into it! I wrote to Doreen Wright; went to England to get lessons from her (the experience of a lifetime quite apart from the lacemaking!); got sent to Pam Nottingham, who taught me Bucks and changed my life; found Elsie Luxton and Cynthia Voysey... and all of that brought me into my real world, which is where I am now and have been since this story began. It may be of interest to know that my son, a practicing cardiologist, ambled by my pillow one day; picked up a handful of bobbins as he passed by; borrowed a copy of Stott's lacemaking for beginners; and lo! again. A very presentable bookmark appeared. Fun! Aurelia Catonsville, Maryland I'll be curious to hear what others do in addition to their lacemaking! Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] IOLI Bulletin
The new IOLI Bulletin came in this morning. What a wonderful job it is! Debra, you have outdone yourself! This issue will be referenced 100 years from now, it is so filled with good, with wonderful articles. I couldn't put it down, once I started reading it. Thank you! Aurelia Baltimore, Maryland - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Sardines, potatoes, famine and crochet
...and speaking of sardines, etc., there was a very nice article in Piecework, not too long ago (July/August 2005) about the Irish crochet of Brittany, including illustrations and a particularly gorgeous one of a crocheted parasol. Also a brief bibliography that includes a mention of Lis Paludan's Crochet: History and Technique -- of special interest to anyone thinking about crochet lace, as it's a very good book indeed. Aurelia Loveman Baltimore, Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hand or machine- emerging sensibilities?
I'm with you, Clay. After reading everybody's thoughts and climbing in and out of everybody's shoes, and sympathizing absolutely with everybody's opinion in turn, I think you've got it, Clay! -- Aurelia I've judged at our State Fair, and in that venue there is no requirement for things to be hand finished. And yes, it is sad to see a beautiful piece of lace badly mounted (regardless of *how* it's mounted). Most competitions are specific in their requirements, and this is the time to consider whether or not to use hand finishing. I still say that it is up to the individual, and have no quarrel with Devon's point. On the other hand, I am personally committed to learning to attach lace by hand (that's my obsessive choice. ;)). It seems absurd to have spent ten years learning to make exquisite lace as it was made in the 17th - 18th centuries, and then blow off the finishing. It takes me the better part of a year to complete Binche lace for a handkerchief, and to spend a week getting the mounting right is not too much to expect. I'm not worried about the problem of picking it apart again after the handkerchief disentegrates - I don't plan to use this on a daily basis!! Part of the appeal to me is to hold the finished object and know that 300 - 400 years ago, someone once held a handkerchief very much like this and it was considered as valuable as a gem. The thread and the handkerchief fabric aren't linen because we can't get fine linen today. But otherwise, it is a faithful reproduction. Clay - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Needle-lace blog
Lesson 5, Cutting from the Working Base, the fifth and last entry of my Needle Lace in Five Easy Lessons, is now available on my blog http://aurelove.blogster.com. I have really enjoyed doing this bit of online teaching, and am grateful to those of you who have written back about your experience with these lessons. I am about to put on a new blogster-hat. From here on out, for the next few weeks or months, I shall be putting out on my blog a novel-in-progress. Nothing to do with lace (at least, not so far), nothing to do with Tina. I am still as much of a devoted lacemaker as ever. This is my second novel. My first one, published years ago by William Morrow, was called The Good Wife. This one will be called (I think) A Look in the Mirror. Wish me luck! Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lesson 4 of needle-lace blog
Lesson 4 (Buttonholing over the Cordonnet) is now available on my blog http://aurelove.blogster.com Aurelia Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Needle-lace blog
Lesson 3d (Point de Rose) is now available on my blog (http://aurelove.blogster.com). Aurelia Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] What's going on in Brazil?
I do agree with you, dear Clay. I could hardly see any details of the Nanduti lace pendant (though I am an enthusiastic maker of Nanduti and have been for at least 25 years). But the pretty little girl with her pants falling down couldn't have been clearer! I hope our Brazilian colleague will try again, and with main emphasis on the needlework! Two by-the-ways: 1) Although the geographic place is certainly spelled Tenerife (with one f), the needlework is properly spelled Teneriffe with two f's. Don't ask me why. And 2) My impression is that the shape of the bit of embroidery in Teneriffe is determined by the shape of the tool used. If your pins are driven into a wooden circle and the fundamental threads (analogous to the warp threads in a piece of standard weaving) are strung on to the pins in order, you are going to be making a round item. If you want a diamond-shaped item like our colleague's pendant, you use a correspondingly shaped tool. Nanduti is well worth a try. It is a real delight to make. Aurelia Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Needle-lace blog
Lesson 3b (Double Brussels Stitch) is now available on my blog. And after much communing with my computer maven, who periodically talks turkey to my pitiful few computer skills, I have now got Lessons 3c and 3c-2 (The Side Stitch) out on my blog too (http://aurelove.blogster.com). I love the Side Stitch. I know that some of you have been following these lessons -- I would love to hear what you think of the Side Stitch. Aurelia Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: bobbins tied or wound loose
Just to remind various spiders among us that this is a list devoted to lace topics, not politics. Let us please maintain it that way. Aurelia Loveman Catonsville, MD T, who -- just yesterday -- discovered that Dick (Deadeye) Cheney (US VP) is family; a (rich) relation. Thankfully, 350yrs removed, but... The embarrassment! The shame! -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] My needle-lace blog
Lesson 3b (the Double Brussels stitch) is now available on my blog http://aurelove.blogster.com. The diagram is dreadful, but the stitch is fun and easy. Aurelia Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Needle-lace blog
Lessons 3 and 3a (The Lace Fillings and Cloth Stitch) are now available on my blog http://aurelove.blogster.com. Lesson 3b (Double Brussels Stitch) will be out next week. Aurelia Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Cinderella's coach, ceramic clay
What, what, WHAT is ceramic lace? Aurelia Maryland USA I've just checked out Cherry's website, and it's BEAUTIFUL! I have a piece of her ceramic lace which I got at our Fall Lace Day in September. It is framed in a simple shadow-box frame, and is elegant - just above my computer on the wall in my office! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Needle-lace in Five Easy Lessons
Lessons 2a and 2b (Couching the Cordonnet) are now available on my blog. Lesson 3 will be out next week. Aurelia Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Needle lace
As every now and then one of us spiders writes something wistful about wanting to make needle lace, I thought it might be nice actually to do something about it. I have posted the first installment of Needle Lace in Five Easy Lessons on my blog, which you can access at: http://aurelove.blogster.com. Tell me what you think. Aurelia Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Belgian Lace Shop
Dear Sue -- Luckily, we spider- and rose-ground lovers don't have to choose. Christine Springett shows a delightful wedding-handkerchief on pages 76-78 of her Lace for Special Occasions. It is a-crawl with spiders, happily living on a ground of roses. I am having a most agreeable time making this (with gold thread for the fan edge), and I think the bride is going to love it too. Aurelia Maryland USA Working on a piece of torchon at present with lots of spiders in it!! Good practice for spiders... I still think my favourite filler stitch so far is roseground! Sue in East Yorkshire - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] need translation
Tess, no doubt you are referring to Janya Sugasunnil in Thailand. -- Aurelia We need the English translation of the following Thai title on the Archives web site: Barnette, J. C. Ru'ang tham rai fai, Phranakhon : Krasuang Kasettrathikan, 1912, 68 pages. Posted November 25, 2004. CD (HWDA12). SAMPLE PAGE. File size 3.6 MB PDF We had an address for someone who helped a while ago, but it doesn't seem to work now. Her name was Janyas and the email address was [EMAIL PROTECTED] It sounds as though the address might be spelled wrong, and in any case our browsers return the mail as undeliverable. If anyone can help with the translation or knows who Janyas is, we would be very grateful. Tess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Can anyone identify this lace?
Devon -- How do they define guipure nowadays? As a kind of tape? Or what? Aurelia I have checked my books about Aemilia Ars, and although there are many peacocks, the work seems mostly to be of a guipure type, and absent these large areas of painstaking needle made mesh. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Pricing Your Lace for Sale in the U.S.
Dear Jeri -- I don't know how the question of pricing exactly got into the e-Gallery of Contemporary Lace discussion, although I guess sooner or later it would have, reality dictating that value is ultimately linked with saleability. Look: value is in the mind of the beholder. Your friend Elaine tattedwebs.com is not doing lacemakers any favor by seriously underpricing her work. Will you tell me why a bride is happy to walk down the aisle wearing a $5,000 wedding dress, but will carry a handkerchief for which she paid $28? It's because she has been taught to look at a wedding dress with awe. She hasn't been taught to look at lace at all, except maybe off-hand as a trimming. Do have a look at some of those Binche-trimmed hankies that are currently being produced, that represent hours and hours and hours of work, and incredible skill and experience. An art-loving public will go to a museum and admire a framed canvas that has had a bucket of paint cleverly spilled on it, because those paintings have been shown and shown, and written about again and again, and the public has gradually been educated to look at that paint with respect. But how many museum-goers would know to look at a handkerchief with respect? It's not enough that a magazine devoted to textiles will occasionally feature lace, for us to read about it. It's not enough for us to talk to each other about the intricacies and marvels of workmanship that amaze us. We are all preaching to the choir. We need to catch the eye and the imagination of a thus-far ignorant public. And how did the question of size get into the discussion? But I will save this issue for a future rant! Aurelia Catonsville, Maryland Some of you are wondering about pricing your handmade lace for sale. We have a member of Lacemakers of Maine who is a very experienced tatter.Tess, Lori the Lacefairy, and I turn to her with many tatting questions.. She participates in juried shows, is active on tatting web sites, and takes orders for tatted items. You can see some of her work, and prices at: http://tattedwebs.com/ Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Rage
We need a gallery, dear Ilske, to show contemporary, original art work done in lace techniques, and possibly for sale, just like other art. You see how this differs from our webshots site. More about this later. -- Aurelia Hello Aurelia and everybody, It seems as if I missed something or I didn't understand. Why do we need a new place showing our works? We have the Arachne-webshot-album which is open for all Arachne-members where we can show our works and some of us still do? Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE: lace-digest V2007 #185
Dear Lucy --- How talented you are! I love your lace examples, and am especially crazy about that blue and green fish. Yes indeed, we must have your entries in our e-gallery. Just in passing -- one of our earliest teachers here was Brigita Fuhrmann, gifted and lovable! So many of us are acquainted with the Czech spirit in lace. Thank you again for showing us your work. Aurelia Modern lace Hi, my name is Lucy, I'm from Czech republic and lacemaking is my hobby. The discussion about modern lace is very interesting, I must admit, that modern lace and modern techniques are my favourite. I think, that everyone who makes lace (or anything else) has the need to express himself/herself by these things and puts a lot of individuality in them. So they are valuable for the demonstration of the invention, though in some cases not everyone likes them. But it's good to search new ways, even if some of them are not leading anywhere ;-)). I try to make lace using combination of materials, you can some of my work on http://lacespider.blog.cz/0706/for-english-speaking-guests in the Gallery - for instance Angels, Fish, Fractals, Butterflies, Lace and wood etc. Lucy - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Rage
Dear Clay -- Did you copy your thought about Gallery Director to Devon? And did you get Tamara's L-O-N-G e-mail (about how she hasn't got the fire or the ego!)? Nothing like having cold water thrown over a new baby. However, I imagine that happens routinely with the emergence of a new idea. We would have to inquire (from the Arachne owner?) how she would feel about having a gallery subsidiary? She might quite possibly not agree. In which case, a small group of those of us interested in the idea might set up our own gallery website. That would give us, of course, more freedom to select items to show. Although, there doesn't seem to be any problem on either the IOLI or the CRLG sites about showing work. Evidently anyone who wants to can submit a piece, as long as they are IOLI/CRLG members. In our case, the defining issue might be: is the piece an original design?(we are back to our discussion of what is modern, what is contemporary). Arachnes, keep the e-mails coming. They are interesting! Dear Aurelia - By Charter Members, do you mean a group which makes decisions about which artists/works to display? I think we can tap the incredible collective mind of Arachne for nominees. We'd need to be clear about the qualifications we're looking for. (And... some variety in those qualifications is desirable - collectors, artists, teachers...). I'd like to defer the responsibility for Gallery Director to someone else - Devon, immediately comes to mind. She is such a scholar in the field, and is respected by so many lacemakers around the world... I think her oversight would immediately take the project from just another website to something important. In order to convince her to serve, we'd have to offer lots of support! Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: Aurelia Loveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Clay -- Just got your e-mail. I like as little structure as one can possibly get by with. But a little bit is needed. I propose that we plan on an e-gallery that will open on January 1, 2008. That will give us five months in which to: (1) settle on a name; (2) write up a founding statement; (3) assemble ten charter members; (4) collect proposed show items; (5) find a webmistress. No doubt I have left out a hundred things still. As to item (3): are there legalities to this that I don't realize? And do you feel up to being gallery director? I would anticipate that when we have got our opening prospects in order, and a list of our participating artists by name, we would send an opening anno uncement to art museums around the country (as, Dallas Contemporary Art Museum; Philadelphia Institute of Contemporary Art; Seattle Art Museum --- there are dozens of art museum web sites). As to your other thoughts: A) No, I think any distinction between modern and contemporary is going to vanish increasingly as we talk about it, and we will find ourselves more concerned with such lace attributes as transparency and delicacy (we will have problems here); B) Yes, we can. That brings us to my item 3 up above: will our charter members be judges, or contributing artists, or both? My first suggestion is that our eagle-eyed Miss Aurelia be chairperson of the vetting committee!! I like your criteria, Miss A!! (I think that ugly or clumsy and lace do not belong in the same sentence - not to mention the same show!!) And my other observations are... A) Does it matter, at this point, what the distinction is between modern and contemporary? ... that point can be refined as our show evolves... and B) We can begin to assemble our gallery before we find our web-master. and C) To truly appreciate modern OR contemporary, it would be nice to have some elegant examples of old laces (made by modern lacemakers), as a way of educating the rest of the world who may have no idea at all what old lace looks like - beyond what they see at the local craft store. (shudder...) ... And while I'm on a roll, those gifted artists who represent the brightest and the best may find that more exposure means more demand for their designs... thus prompting more designs. Hm... 21st Century patronage!! Well... Leonardo didn't get famous overnight either!! Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: Aurelia Loveman My phrase a rage for Binche was not meant as a putdown. Not at all. My prequel to Devon said Technique and Design, not Technique OR Design. In fact I think (not an original thought) that it is constant refining and pushing of orthodox techniques that ultimately produces breakthroughs in ideas (design). Incidentally, and as an aside, I am waiting for some wire genius to exploit the memory feature of wire (thread hasn't got that talent), but that's what virtuoso performers are all about. Well, now that dear Clay has taken a nutty little drift
Re: [lace] Modern Lace Dream Team/more
Dear Devon -- I would not get waylaid by the word judge. A lot depends on who the gallery owner would be. If it were a subsidiary forum of Arachne, I should think space would be open to any spider who had original work and wanted to show it, much as is done at present by IOLI and CRLG (we haven't been overwhelmed as yet with submissions). But if the gallery were a privately owned web site (owned as might be by a founding half-dozen of us lacemakers), it would be treated more like a piece of property (is there a lawyer anywhere in the vicinity?) and we would set up a (rotating?) board who would screen would-be-entering pieces according to an agreed-upon standard. I'm afraid it goes almost without saying that no matter what the standard, we would immediately find people who took issue with us about what is clumsy, ugly, meaningful, truly modern, on and on. You stop somewhere along the way and say, This is what we think. And it's our gallery. Isn't that, in fact, what happens right now in real life? Also, it helps to remember that our underlying motive for this whole gallery-dream is to have a vehicle for showing our work to the non-lacemaking, non-textile-knowledgeable public (like you wearing lace jewelry to be seen). Thank you for the URL of the Textile Study Group. I found them fascinating. However, they show every medium imaginable, some of which I had a hard time identifying as textiles. Our gallery would have a far easier time of it, as we would be limited to lace. Just lace. OK, we might have to stop fretting about the definition of modern/contemporary and start to fret about a definition of lace (here I refer you again to the Walters catalogue). But you tell me any venue for anything at all that doesn't encourage hairsplitting. What did you think of my beginner's stab at a founding document (e-mail to Clay B. yesterday)? Aurelia In a message dated 7/29/2007 10:44:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Out of curiosity... How will you decide which names should or should not go into the virtual gallery of the modern/contemporary/cutting edge/creative lace designers? Since clumsy/ugly vs elegant (Aurelia's standard) is not, really, an objective measure, but a highly personal judgement? I was a little concerned about this, myself, because a lot of contemporary work is ugly to some people, often because it makes a statement. Veronique Louppe's piece in which the wire was cut was beautiful and shocking at once. But I found it fascinating. My daughter, who has just graduated from college with a degree in Fine Art, concentration in sculpture, was gravitating to soft sculpture near the end and found that she was the only person in the class who thought that a piece of art could be visually appealing and still convey a meaningful message. So, at her college, at least, there are a lot of people who think art really has no business being anything but ugly. Of course, my original thought was simply to assemble a list as sort of an intellectual game, in case anyone ever asked for one. The recruitment of a web master, etc, had not occurred to me. However, in the words of the immortal Tommy Smothers, I say Take it, Dickie! to anyone who wants to go that route. For anyone who is interested, here is the website of the Members Gallery of the Textile Study Group of New York. _http://www.tsgny.org/GALLERY.html_ (http://www.tsgny.org/GALLERY.html) Devon (showing her age by referencing the Smothers Brothers) ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] More about modern
Dear Devon -- No doubt this will run to several e-mails. I hadn't realized that my own modern pot was boiling over. Yes, of course, a traditional Bucks pattern made now wouldn't be the modern that we are reaching for, no matter how beautiful it might be, black silk, beads, etc. But nevertheless there is something lying dormant in the Point de Lille technique that has yet to be exploited by a design that could only arise in our own time. Which brings me to my favorite Headache of the Year. I keep thinking about this all the time. Technique and Design. Technique and Design. One without the other and all you've got is virtuosity, not a real plunge into the current current. I guess what started me thinking about this is the present rage for Binche. Twenty years ago nobody thought twice about Binche. Just another Flemish lace. In 1988 (20 years ago, good God!) I wrote the catalogue for the Walters Art Museum's first and only lace exhibit, and I notice how I fluffed off Binche with the merest mention (...never fully evolved in design...now being revived as esoteric studies for accomplished amateurs...). It is indeed, and still, not well evolved, designwise, but the rage for the technique is currently boiling hot and my patient little cry for better Binche design goes absolutely unheard, for the moment. I expect that in another decade or two, when the technique has been well absorbed, and doesn't carry any special cachet, somebody will quietly float an original Binche design that could never have been dreamed up in an earlier century. All of a sudden we will see the endless possibilities of snowflakes. ((By the way, the Walters catalogue is a beauty; they outdid themselves. If the Ratti library doesn't have a copy, let me know and I'll send you one)) What you say about wire lace is very much to my point. Just because the wire medium is new (or unconventional?) isn't enough to make a wire piece modern. Something about the design has to have been propelled into existence out of the stringencies of wire technique. So far, all the wire lace I've seen (not very much, as yet) seems to have derived from thread lace patterns. I love Jane Atkinson. When I came upon her Pattern Design twenty years ago, I nearly died of joy. I haven't seen any of her later work, though. Where is it to be seen? And as to my own work: I don't know how to describe what I do. I suppose you saw my Gardening in Winter (a fan with ferns as the design) on the cover of the Bulletin one or two issues ago. The ground is made of gold metal thread in a logarithmic pattern, so that it isn't quiet, but flexes and relaxes in waves (I guess my idea was to give it life; or something; I don't know what I had in mind, I just galloped slowly along). The ferns in the pattern are made of various green silks in needle lace. How naturalistic they might be I don't know. I did get a letter from a reader inquiring whether they were real ferns that I had glued on!! My son, a cardiologist in Michigan and a virtuoso lace knitter (200/2 silk knitted with angioplasty wires!) is just now taking up bobbin lace (no, not at his mother's urging), so we'll see what the next generation produces. I made the attached wall-hanging for him. Also needle plus bobbin. Let me know what you think (and I have more to say!) -- Aurelia * This e-mail is confidential, the property of NDS Ltd and intended for the addressee only. Any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message or any attachments by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy the original message. Messages sent to and from NDS may be monitored. NDS cannot guarantee any message delivery method is secure or error-free. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. We do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions in this message and/or attachment that arise as a result of transmission. You should carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of NDS. NDS Limited Registered office: One Heathrow Boulevard, 286 Bath Road, West Drayton, Middlesex, UB7 0DQ, United Kingdom. A company registered in England and Wales Registered no. 3080780 VAT no. GB 603 8808 40-00 To protect the environment please do not print this e-mail unless necessary. ** - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] modern- more
What fun! What a wonderful idea! A virtual gallery all our own! Yes, yes, yes! Aurelia Let us not forget that there is some very interesting work being done by Japanese designers. I believe Wako Ono has had an exhibit. Also Junko Samejima was due to have one. Many of these designers are employing Flemish or English technique but producing designs with a Japanese eye. Perhaps it would be fun to imagine that we were going to have a gallery show of modern/contemporary lace, sample title Is it modern or is it contemporary, and who we would include in such a dream team show. I think a list would include: Anny Nobens Lenka Suchanek Susan Lambiris Aurelia- of course Wako Ono Junko Samejima Jana Novak Ilske Jane Atkinson maybe those people who make the wire fences Jane has pointed out the website _http://www.glofab.se/nordiska_museet_content.html_ (http://www.glofab.se/nordiska_museet_content.html) , or actually the entire _www.glofab.se_ (http://www.glofab.se) site which contains some very interesting examples of modern lace This list is off the top of my head in about a minute and not thought out, but who else do you think should be on it? Devon ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Rage
My phrase a rage for Binche was not meant as a putdown. Not at all. My prequel to Devon said Technique and Design, not Technique OR Design. In fact I think (not an original thought) that it is constant refining and pushing of orthodox techniques that ultimately produces breakthroughs in ideas (design). Incidentally, and as an aside, I am waiting for some wire genius to exploit the memory feature of wire (thread hasn't got that talent), but that's what virtuoso performers are all about. Well, now that dear Clay has taken a nutty little drift of thought and made it respectable and desirable, what's our next step? How do we begin to establish our gallery? And what is the distinction between modern and contemporary? My only stipulation would be that nothing ugly or clumsy be entered in our gallery. Let us not forget that the fundamental nature of lace is __elegance. P.S. And yes, will I ever forget my wowed reaction when a Bulletin came in, a year or two ago, with Janice Blair's Mask on it? Just my idea of everything modern, contemporary, elegant and plain gorgeous. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Puncetto knotted needle lace
Dear Annette and spiders -- I have an edition of the Anchor Manual that was published in 1974 by Charles Branford Co. of Massachusetts and is of course in English. Its chapter XXI is devoted to puncetto and it is drop-dead gorgeous! I should think Amazon or BN or one of those online booksellers could find one. Aurelia Catonsville, MD The best reference is the Anchor Manual of Needlework Chapter 11. I bought a book in Italy but it is in Italian and I think it is out of print. Manuale del puncetto valsesiano by Angela Petterino Camaschella. Valsesia Editrice, Borgosesia 1992. No ISBN. If you google Puncetto you will also find some good sites. Enjoy Annette Meldrum -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Audsley Sent: Monday, 30 July 2007 10:01 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Puncetto knotted needle lace Thanks for posting the link Annette - that's gorgeous, and I love the simplicity of just the needle and thread creating the lace - no pillow, no laying a trace etc etc. Do you know of any books with Puncetto technique details? Jen in Melbourne, Australia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.23/924 - Release Date: 28/07/2007 3:50 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.23/924 - Release Date: 28/07/2007 3:50 PM - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] More about modern
Dear Devon -- Evidently my yesterday's e-mail to you never got out of the barn. So I'm trying again. Yes, of course, as you say, a traditional Bucks pattern made now wouldn't be the modern that we are reaching for, no matter how beautiful it might be (made of black silk; decorated with beads; etc.). But nevertheless, there is something lying dormant in the Point de Lille technique that has yet to be exploited by a design that could only arise in our own time. Which brings me to my favorite Headache of the Year. I keep thinking about this all the time. Technique and Design. Technique and Design. One without the other, and all you've got is virtuosity, not a real plunge into the current current. I guess what started me thinking about this is the present rage for Binche. Twenty years ago nobody thought twice about Binche. Just another Flemish lace. In 1988 (twenty years ago, good God!) I wrote the catalogue for the Walters Art Museum's first and only lace exhibit, and I notice how I fluffed off Binche with the merest mention (...never fully evolved in design...now being revived as esoteric studies for accomplished amateurs...). It is indeed, and still, not well evolved, designwise, but the rage for the technique is currently boiling hot and my patient little cry for better Binche design goes absolutely unheard, for the moment. I expect that in another decade or two, when the technique has been well absorbed, and doesn't carry any special cachet, somebody will quietly float an original Binche design that could never have been dreamed up in an earlier century. All of a sudden we will see the endless possibilities of snowflakes. (By the way, the Walters catalogue is a beauty; they outdid themselves. If the Ratti library doesn't have a copy, let me know and I'll send you one) What you say about wire lace is very much to my point. Just because the wire medium is new (or unconventional?) isn't enough to make a wire piece modern. Something about the design has to have been propelled into existence out of the stringencies of wire technique. So far, all the wire lace I've seen (not very much, as yet) seems to have derived from thread lace patterns. I love Jane Atkinson. When I came upon her Pattern Design twenty years ago, I nearly died of joy. I haven't seen any of her later work, though. Where is it to be seen? And as to my own work: I don't know how to describe what I do. I suppose you saw my Gardening in Winter (a fan with ferns as the design) on the cover of the Bulletin one or two issues ago. The ground is made of gold metal thread in a logarithmic pattern, so that it isn't quiet, but flexes and relaxes in waves (I guess my idea was to give it life; or something; I don't know what I had in mind, I just galloped slowly along). The ferns in the pattern are made of various green silks in needle lace. How naturalistic they might be I don't know. I did get a letter from a reader inquiring whether they were real ferns that I had glued on! My son, a cardiologist in Michigan and a virtuoso lace knitter (200/2 silk knitted with angioplasty wires!) is just now taking up bobbin lace (no, not at his mother's urging). So we'll see what the next generation produces. This past year I made a wall-hanging for him (sending photo separately). Also needle plus bobbin. Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Wine stains
I don't know whether port wine stains differently from other red wines. What I do know, though, is that if you can get at the wine stain while it is still fresh, you pour table-salt thickly all over the stain, and then get on with the party. When everybody is gone, a couple of hours later, you vacuum up the (wine-laden) salt and rinse the fabric with cold water. Not a sign of a stain left. Honest to God. I got this remedy years ago from a world-famous scholar at Albert Einstein College of Medicine when I was a lowly postdoctoral fellow there. The party. the wine and the stain were at my house. Aurelia Catonsville, MD - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] German lace site
Yes, my experience with it too. -- Aurelia Tamara forwarded an email with a link to: http://www.forum-alte-spitze.de/ None of the links work for me (Internet Explorer 7). Anyone else had this problem? Outlook/News orAusblick/Aktuelles (depending on whether I'm on the American or German page) is yellow, with the rest of the links in white, but none lead anywhere. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Learning Binche RE: Need some opinions
Dear Pene -- Indeed you don't have to learn every type of lace! Lacemaking, for us, is supposed to be (our kind of) fun. We aren't standing in front of the bar of Heaven, begging to be let in and brandishing our (Binche/Flanders/Paris) ticket of admission. Binche just happens to be currently the hot thing in fashion among lacemakers -- probably owing to the lucky upsurge of a couple of gifted teachers. You love Milanese? Stick to your Milanese! Aurelia in Baltimore, where it's hot, hot, hot and beautiful I am not really interested in learning Flanders or Binche. I would rather explore the laces that I know. Does anyone else feel the same way? Who said that you have to learn every type of lace that was ever made? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] antique bobbins and spangles
Dear Clay -- What fun! You will love it. As to my teachers: on my first visit, with lace on my mind (note: not yet in my hands or in any part of my brain that ever mattered) and an address in hand, it turned out that I was ringing Doreen Wright's doorbell. She gave me a clipped but vigorous welcome, sat me down in a bay window, planted a pricking on my pillow (Duke's Garter a Bucks design), and told me to go to it. For me it was either die that very afternoon or learn how to do Bucks Point. (I learned). Doreen then sent me off to West Dean College, a sophisticated place in West Surrey specializing in all sorts of exotic crafts, and there I fell into the lap of Pam Nottingham, where I stayed... and stayed...happily...for years...and years... I also found Elsie Luxton there, and eventually she turned her classes over to Cynthia Voysey with whom I have shared an affectionate lifelong friendship as well as lacemaking interests. Some of my transAtlantic hops were to the British College of Lace, to Christine Springett, and, once, to Barbara Underwood. See what a passport will do! Aurelia Hello, Aurelia! I love imagining you hopping over to England for lessons!! What a wonderful experience it must have been. Who were some of your teachers? At that stage, lacemaking in the US was practically non-existent! No internet, few books... no wonder you were starved for contact!! I've never even had a passport... although that is about to change. I've always imagined that I would have time to get one if I ever planned a trip and needed it... but now it's apparent that I'd better get one now, before it's nearly impossible to get one in a reasonable amount of time! Already a couple of things have come up which I might have jumped to do, except that I did not have a passport. So, I'm about to bite the bullet and get it. My fondest dream is to spend a week or two in Bruges at the Kantcentrum... this will be step one!! Clay -- Original message -- From: Aurelia Loveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Barbara -- You have had so many replies to your question about replacing the spangles on your old bobbins, that one more reply isn't going make a difference, but here goes: when I started lacemaking in the very early seventies (oh how long ago that seems!), I used to hop over to England for lessons every chance I got. At that time antique bobbins, mostly amateur-made and not always remarkable for their workmanship, were all about, and easy and cheap to buy. I bought a whole cigarboxful, one afternoon, without a blink. Nobody got sentimental about them, nor talked of their history. The bobbins that caught our fancy and our pocketbooks were the elegant and beautiful new bobbins made by a few gifted craftsmen (as, David Springett, just then beginning his distinguished career). The spangles (on the Springett bobbins, done by Christine) were utter perfection, their size carefully chosen and graduated aiming for the central bead at the bottom -- because -- fundamentally the spangles were not primarily decorative but had a function. They weighted the bobbin down on the pillow and thus controlled the tension on the thread. Admittedly a lot of antique bobbins got their weight via buttons and assorted junk, but a determined lacemaker wouldn't let that stop her. Still, history it's not. Of course, Barbara dear, replace the wire, clean the beads, arrange them for size, and if they're ugly or clumsy ... what history? Aurelia Catonsville, MD Here's a question about antique bobbins and spangles: Over the years, I've accumulated (mostly on eBay) a few antique bone bobbins. They are 19th century, some by unknown makers, a few are by well-known makers (Bobbin Brown, etc.). Some of the spangles contain the original antique beads. I am inclined to want to use them, rather than just put them in a display case. In some cases, the spangles are big and bulky, in some cases, the wires holding the spangles are in danger of coming apart. Is it blasphemy to take the spangles apart, replace the wire in some, completely junk the spangles in some, and selectively rearrange and redistribute beads, and in some cases, put completey new beads on them? I find it difficult to make lace with big, floppy spangles. I want to use the bobbins, but don't want to destroy a bit of history. What do you think? gt; Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] antique bobbins and spangles
Dear Barbara -- You have had so many replies to your question about replacing the spangles on your old bobbins, that one more reply isn't going make a difference, but here goes: when I started lacemaking in the very early seventies (oh how long ago that seems!), I used to hop over to England for lessons every chance I got. At that time antique bobbins, mostly amateur-made and not always remarkable for their workmanship, were all about, and easy and cheap to buy. I bought a whole cigarboxful, one afternoon, without a blink. Nobody got sentimental about them, nor talked of their history. The bobbins that caught our fancy and our pocketbooks were the elegant and beautiful new bobbins made by a few gifted craftsmen (as, David Springett, just then beginning his distinguished career). The spangles (on the Springett bobbins, done by Christine) were utter perfection, their size carefully chosen and graduated aiming for the central bead at the bottom -- because -- fundamentally the spangles were not primarily decorative but had a function. They weighted the bobbin down on the pillow and thus controlled the tension on the thread. Admittedly a lot of antique bobbins got their weight via buttons and assorted junk, but a determined lacemaker wouldn't let that stop her. Still, history it's not. Of course, Barbara dear, replace the wire, clean the beads, arrange them for size, and if they're ugly or clumsy ... what history? Aurelia Catonsville, MD Here's a question about antique bobbins and spangles: Over the years, I've accumulated (mostly on eBay) a few antique bone bobbins. They are 19th century, some by unknown makers, a few are by well-known makers (Bobbin Brown, etc.). Some of the spangles contain the original antique beads. I am inclined to want to use them, rather than just put them in a display case. In some cases, the spangles are big and bulky, in some cases, the wires holding the spangles are in danger of coming apart. Is it blasphemy to take the spangles apart, replace the wire in some, completely junk the spangles in some, and selectively rearrange and redistribute beads, and in some cases, put completey new beads on them? I find it difficult to make lace with big, floppy spangles. I want to use the bobbins, but don't want to destroy a bit of history. What do you think? Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] how do you find a club?
Barbara! Horrors! The group that was _your_ group before you moved to the Pacific Northwest was _our_ group. Surely you couldn't have meant the TerraPins (Baltimore area) or the CRLG (regional), all of whom are the most hospitable people on earth (and P.S., the TerraPins meet on the first Thursday of every month at the Fairland Library (near Silver Spring MD) and the thing we love best in the world, next to making Torchon lace, is...welcoming people! -- Aurelia Do any of your groups belong to a larger center that provides meeting and storage space? As real estate is at a premium in most areas, the thought has always intrigued me...something similar to the Textile Arts Center in Minnesota. Lacemakers of Puget Sound does rent a meeting space and storage space for our library from the city where we meet (Kent, WA). It is very nice to be able to do so, but alas, the cost is very high. Our normal income from dues and an occasional raffle do not meet our yearly expenses of rent and newsletter publication and delivery. We deal with that by holding a conference every few years. Historically, I am told, we make enough profit to be able to help defray the normal costs of the guild and also sponsor some workshops, so that the cost to members is reduced. On another note, I had read a post from Shere'e previously and invited her to visit us once again. It was our group that turned her off (before I moved to the Pacific Northwest). While I cannot condone the experience she relates, I do wish she would give the guild another opportunity to show her what we have to offer. Shere'e, how about it?!?! Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace Guild Convention
Dear Brenda -- No, I'm not going to be there, alas, as my traveling days are over (90th birthday last October!). But if you think of it, give dear Gwynedd a grateful hug for me, Gwynedd who held my beginner's hand some 35 years ago in workshops up on the top floor (children's nursery?) at West Dean. Aurelia I've received my info pack from the Lace Guild and I'm really pleased with the workshops I've got places on, none involve lugging pillows around and three good tutors. Fri pm: Beaded tassels with Sue Dane Sat am: Child's play - pattern design with Jane Atkinson Sun am: Looking at lace with Gwynedd Roberts Anyone else doing one of these? With three workshops to fit in and all the displays to look at I won't have much time to spend any money! Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] list - and books...
Not a book, and not about lace. But the current (March 5) issue of the New Yorker magazine has got a marvelous article about SPIDERS! A really fun read! Aurelia Loveman in Baltimore, where the witch-hazel is now in golden bloom, and spring is timidly coming in. Hi Janice - Yes, the list has been very quiet lately, and I was beginning to think that my ISP was filtering my mail a tad too much! It's good to know that others have the same perception. Here's a question that might generate some interesting posts: Are there any exciting new lace books out these days? It seems to me that there aren't as many as usual. Clay -- Original message -- From: Janice Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is the list very quiet at the moment? I have not had a digest since Friday. Maybe this email will kick one out. Lace content: I am still working on my competition piece and today I wrote out the instructions for a simple fish bookmark that we can use this month at our LACE guild meeting. We have sent out invites for beginners and to date we have two signed up. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA http://jblace.wordpress.com/ http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Handkerchief edgings
Ah, but where to find the nice man, let alone his hanky! -- Aurelia I simply take nice men's hankies and cut them to fit the edgings. I do a tiny rolled hem on the edges before I attach the lace to give myself a firm stitching surface that will not unravel. Shere'e Seattle, WA USA On 3/1/07, ann.humphreys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend who has now given up lacemaking has given me a couple of prickings for handkerchief edgings. Can anyone who makes edgings for hankies tell me what they do about getting the right size of linen material to fit the prickings. Do you buy them ready made and if so who supplies them, or do you have to cut the linen yourself and hem it. Please don't tell me to do anything fancy to alter the prickings to fit, I'm just not that clever. Ann Yorkshire UK -- www.webeweddings.com Unique Weddings for Unique Couples - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: New Book/Lace Fans?
To begin with, I don't pretend to be an expert on fans. However, some of my fans have been published in both British and American lace journals, and a couple of them were on display in the Baltimore Museum of Art and the Walters Art Museum (also in Baltimore); so I have gathered my courage to reply to your question. As to the length/width ratio of fansticks to fanleaf, you will find a very precise description along with diagrams in Christine Springett's ever-so-helpful little booklet Designing and Mounting Lace Fans. This was published in 1985, but as it is really the authoritative word on the subject, and quite a wonderful little book, I should think it might still be had -- try Christine herself. (And for inspiration and a sense of how wide the world is for the beginning fanmaker, you ought to take Ann Collier's Lace Fans to bed with you). As to the number of inner sticks: most of my fans were made for me by John Brooker, a genius of a fanmaker. I have a couple of his fans that have an even number of sticks; but one of them has eleven sticks. And I have an old and lovely Spanish fan that has seventeen sticks. So apparently it doesn't matter. Good luck! Aurelia The final fan frame design details need to be determined and this is where Arachneans can help me. First, is there any ratio I should follow between the length of the fansticks and the width of the bobbin lace piece? I am concerned about the proportions between the wider bottom portion of the inner sticks and the more slender upper portion where the lace will be mounted. Second, should the number of inner sticks be odd or even? Sue in New Jersey, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace tablecloth - managing a lace pillow
Absolutely unbelievable! As she says, it takes Geduld, Geduld and then some more Geduld (and to my mind, takes a lot more than just Geduld! takes imagination!) P.S. I have been making a tablecloth too, for the past year or so -- as a change of pace between projects (fans, etc.), but mine doesn't compare to hers for patience, ingenuity, scope. Thank you for pointing our noses that way! Aurelia In a message dated 2/2/07 8:13:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.kloeppeln-am-meer.de/ click on GALLERY click on TAGEBUCH EINER DECKE and marvel at the pictures. Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia Dear Newbies, We discussed securing bobbins on lace pillows within the last two weeks. When you look at this wonderful site, please note how the lacemaker has managed her bobbins. This was not a pillow that traveled to meetings. Still, there was need in the home to stay organized. There are other methods, but this is a fine photographed example. Thank you for bringing this to our attention, Jenny. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Need help locating a picture!
Dear all -- I am trying to locate a picture that appeared in one of our lace publications not too many years ago. It is a photo of a handicapped lacemaker. She is sitting on the floor, making lace with one arm and one leg. If anybody has seen this photo and remembers where I might find it again, do please let me know. Thank you! -- Aurelia [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Need help locating a picture!
Joan, thank you ever so much! The picture is indeed as you said, in Lace No. 74, April 1994. What a wonderful resource is Arachne and its spiders!-- Aurelia HelloAurilia all I think the picture you are looking for is in Lace Number 74 April 1994 Joan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Aurelia Loveman Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:33 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Need help locating a picture! Dear all -- I am trying to locate a picture that appeared in one of our lace publications not too many years ago. It is a photo of a handicapped lacemaker. She is sitting on the floor, making lace with one arm and one leg. If anybody has seen this photo and remembers where I might find it again, do please let me know. Thank you! -- Aurelia [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Need help locating a picture!
Joan, thank you ever so much! The picture is indeed as you said, in Lace No. 74, April 1994. What a wonderful resource is Arachne and its spiders!-- Aurelia HelloAurilia all I think the picture you are looking for is in Lace Number 74 April 1994 Joan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Aurelia Loveman Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:33 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Need help locating a picture! Dear all -- I am trying to locate a picture that appeared in one of our lace publications not too many years ago. It is a photo of a handicapped lacemaker. She is sitting on the floor, making lace with one arm and one leg. If anybody has seen this photo and remembers where I might find it again, do please let me know. Thank you! -- Aurelia [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace joining
Well, I know that I am going to get plenty of flak for this opinion, but here goes anyway: There comes a point where neatness and carefulness become obsessiveness, and we surely are fluttering about that point now. Yes, the ending threads have to be sewn into the beginning, trimmed off, woven in, etc. But it is possible, with care, to tuck these ends into the work so that they are nearly invisible, by means of a very few tiny stitches taken first forward, then back. One of our most illustrious and celebrated lace teachers* has been known to remark that a minute and tiny detail is not noticed in the larger context of a beautiful piece of lace. Whether the tiny detail is the somewhat thickened texture of the Het Lassen join, or the somewhat simpler edge-seam, who is going to look at the lace and see a nearly invisible and insignificant detail? * Curious? Contact me privately! Aurelia I think it was mentioned by someone else that there are two approaches to joining lace. Laces started with paired bobbins, with threads looped neatly over pins, the end can be sewn into the beginning while the lace is on the pillow. The ends then have to be dealt with -- trim off, weave in, make a rolled edge, etc. Frequently this leaves finishing telltails on the wrong side of the lace. This is fine for laces with a right and wrong side. The other method of joining is the Het Lassen method, which is overlapping the lace and then overcasting the two layers together where the pattern matches. The leftover ends are then trimmed off next to the overcasting. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Knotted Chair
Hi Lorraine! Nice to hear from you again -- it's been a while, hasn't it! Re the knotted chair: it's a sort of hammock that's been made to straighten up and fly right, by means of a frame; don't you think?... happy New Year! -- Aurelia Hello all- I spotted this in the Met Home magazine and thought you might be interested: Knotted chair by Marcel Wander: http://www.marcelwanders.nl/wanders/pages/seaters-knotchair_1_8_grouppage.sht ml Hope everyone is enjoying a good holiday season! regards, Lorraine Weiss Albany, New York (where even I am waiting for our first snow although it only means shoveling) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: bucks point grids
Hello Sue -- I have never tried plotting out grounds in groups. My most recent fan has a wild variation on point ground and is plotted on a logarithmic grid, which gives an effect of a lot of movement (and I loved doing it!), but I did not alter the angle as I went round the fan. You might have a look at Ann Collier's book Lace Fans. She is a genuine genius and I am sure has tossed off problems like ours! Beginning on page 18 of her book, she discusses designing grounds for Bucks fans. Very interesting. I am sending you a picture of my most recent fan, Gardening in Winter, as an attachment to this e-mail (it is going to appear on the cover of the next IOLI Bulletin). As you see, I paid no attention to the appearance and reappearance of successive sticks (nor would I do differently if I were to do it over again). Good luck! -- Aurelia Thank you for addition to this discussion, it all helps me clarify for the future when I try it out for real. Can I ask another question in relation to this point. If I were going to design a fan in bucks point which is only 180 degrees with 16 sticks in the fan how would you decide on the grid angle and shape for that in Bucks point? Sorry if this sounds like a mad question and I do hope you understand what I mean:-) 3 lots of 60 degrees maybe? Sue T, Dorset UK I should think 70 degrees was a bit much. I usually do 52 degrees and like it a lot. I have seen Bucks done at 60 degrees, strikes me as a bit tame, however. -- Aurelia I have spent an exciting 16 days opening the doors to the advent calender and finding the lovely lace designs and pictures as well as new lace patterns and have a question about todays (16th pattern by Jean Leader). It is a lovely little pattern in Bucks point, I just wondered what grid angle it would have been drawn on. I have done plum pudding once before and have a complete photo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: bucks point grids
Thank you, Sue, for the kind words! Your tale of a broken fan covered in torn silk is my story exactly, for the first fan I ever made (Espalier, which also appeared on the IOLI Bulletin cover a couple of years ago) was for a black Spanish fan that I picked up for $6 in an antique shop in St. Augustine. Its black silk fan-leaf was in rags, but the carved black sticks were beautiful. I was into camellias at the time (still am), so the design was of camellias done in needle lace. It's probably one of those situations about fools rushing in where angels feared to tread. What a compliment your asking me whether the green fronds on my fan are live leaves! How will I ever recover from that one!! However, while I convalesce about it, I will tell you that they are made of Gütermann's 100/2 silk thread, done in needle lace after many consultations with my Encyclopedia of Ferns. My guess is that after you spend a couple of evenings with Ann Collier and her bookful of wonderful fans, you will hardly be able to wait to try your own hand. That lady is really an inspiration! Aurelia Hello Aurelia, I forgot, I have that book, our daughter bought it for me the second christmas after I started learning to make lace. It is beautiful but was much to difficult to use in those dates. Now if I concentrate on reading the right section I might find it helps me learn what I need to know. Your fan is very pretty, I bought a broken fan this summer was covered in a silk fan but that is way beyond repair so I thought maybe I could reuse the sticks myself. It is a project to plan for and I often think ahead and do some prep work while working on other things on my pillow. I like to have things to do now and things to conside for the future. The green fronds on the fan, are they live leaves laying on, or are they worked lace. It is always so interesting to see what others work with their lace, I really enjoy it. Thank you for sharing the picture with me and well done on going into print, it must make you feel very proud. Sue T, Dorset UK Hello Sue -- I have never tried plotting out grounds in groups. My most recent fan has a wild variation on point ground and is plotted on a logarithmic grid, which gives an effect of a lot of movement (and I loved doing it!), but I did not alter the angle as I went round the fan. You might have a look at Ann Collier's book Lace Fans. She is a genuine genius and I am sure has tossed off problems like ours! Beginning on page 18 of her book, she discusses designing grounds for Bucks fans. Very interesting. I am sending you a picture of my most recent fan, Gardening in Winter, as an attachment to this e-mail (it is going to appear on the cover of the next IOLI Bulletin). As you see, I paid no attention to the appearance and reappearance of successive sticks (nor would I do differently if I were to do it over again). Good luck! -- Aurelia Thank you for addition to this discussion, it all helps me clarify for the future when I try it out for real. Can I ask another question in relation to this point. If I were going to design a fan in bucks point which is only 180 degrees with 16 sticks in the fan how would you decide on the grid angle and shape for that in Bucks point? Sorry if this sounds like a mad question and I do hope you understand what I mean:-) 3 lots of 60 degrees maybe? Sue T, Dorset UK I should think 70 degrees was a bit much. I usually do 52 degrees and like it a lot. I have seen Bucks done at 60 degrees, strikes me as a bit tame, however. -- Aurelia I have spent an exciting 16 days opening the doors to the advent calender and finding the lovely lace designs and pictures as well as new lace patterns and have a question about todays (16th pattern by Jean Leader). It is a lovely little pattern in Bucks point, I just wondered what grid angle it would have been drawn on. I have done plum pudding once before and have a complete photo -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.22/590 - Release Date: 16/12/2006 17:39 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Advent calender 16th
I should think 70 degrees was a bit much. I usually do 52 degrees and like it a lot. I have seen Bucks done at 60 degrees, strikes me as a bit tame, however. -- Aurelia I have spent an exciting 16 days opening the doors to the advent calender and finding the lovely lace designs and pictures as well as new lace patterns and have a question about todays (16th pattern by Jean Leader). It is a lovely little pattern in Bucks point, I just wondered what grid angle it would have been drawn on. I have done plum pudding once before and have a complete photo frame piece of it but when I did this It was the first proper bucks point pattern I worked. Now I am trying to learn design as well I am interested to find out a little more about it. Pamela Nottingham mentions in her book that bucks point is worked between 52 and 70 deg. How would you decide specifically, ? I have been playing with my program and finally managed to come up with one pattern I am going to work, but that is on a Torchon grid, haven't yet got into Bucks point, but that is partly due to this variation in degrees which I am stumped at. Many Thanks, Sue T, Dorset UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Start spreading the news....
Dear Jennifer -- Well, for starters, there is the Metropolitan Museum of Art's Ratti Collection, with our very own Devon Thein right in the midst of it. There is also the Cooper-Hewitt museum, devoted to textiles. Four days -- that's wonderful, but these two places alone could easily occupy four weeks. You will have a wonderful time. -- Aurelia I'm leaving in February (to the tune of NY, NY). Hi Arachneans, Work is sending me to LA in late Feb next year, for a conference. So while I'm in the US, I'll be popping over to NY for 4 days, staying with friends - YIPPEE!!! No spare time in LA, but NY is all mine. Any must see suggestions re lace (or textiles) while I'm there? I'll be in NY city. A VERY excited, Jen in Melbourne, Australia. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: tenerife lace
Dear Elizabeth -- Some 25 years ago, when I went down to Florida to take care of my ailing mother, I spent the long lonely evenings making a Teneriffe mat ( I will tell you about the spelling in a minute). The mat is too big for my scanner but I have scanned it anyway, and you can see bits of it in the attachment. It is made with blue and white pearl cotton on blue Hardanger cloth -- couldn't be less authentic! The actual geographical island is spelled Tenerife with one f; but when we are discussing the lace it is spelled with two f's Teneriffe. I have no idea why this is so; but so it is. Also, is nhanduti (nanduti?) an alternative word for the same lace? or is there a difference from one to the other? -- Aurelia Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Brazilian lace
Dear Elizabeth -- Interesting that you signed off with Tchau. Is it taken from the Italian ciao? -- Aurelia Tess and spiders I think your question can make richer our list. And add to Jenny's fabulous list of lace's sites. The lace you send the foto is called renascença (Renaissance Lace) here in Brasil. Like the greater number of the laces here, it's arrived crossing the Atlantic Ocean. It's roots are in Burano, Veneza, Italy. I think that it is a needlelace. Is make also with a cotton little ribbon named lacê (I think that is french). Around the heart there is another lace (bobbin lace? industrial lace?) Recife is in Northeastern and there are many lacemakers all the Northeastern. There are turist too and lace is a product for turism. It is expensive like in all world, and few people can buy a beautyfull lace, a traditional one. What I think is interesting is that there are lacemakers that make a lace with cotton thread more great that the tradicional, and we have a piece modern and low-priced. It is not like the traditional lace, is with colours many times it's OK. Has it's charm, new-fashioned.And we have the two sorts, a more traditional and a modern kind. There is a site called a casa (the house) that the subject-matter is design and it has a brazilian handcrafts's archive. You will love it: has a english version! Visit http://www.acasa.org.br and, please, say me what you think about it. The page where we can see the renaissane lace, tradicional kind, is http://www.acasa.org.br/arquivo.php?secao=Acervoid_colecao=23pg=1pchave= But there is no nhanduti there. Only the name. No foto, no history... Nhanduti is the only lace that comes to Brasil of Paraguay, by land. Nhanduti that is another story. My God, this reply came out on the large side. It is not prudent. More we write more we can make a mistake. But nothing ventured, nothing gained. Tchau (See you soon) for all. elizabeth corrêa from Brasil, - Original Message - From: Tess Parrish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: eva schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thomsen Ilske [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 10:44 PM Subject: Brazilian lace Hello Elizabeth, A friend of mine has just come back from Brazil and she found these two little sachet bags in the airport. She is not a lacemaker, but she knew I would like them--and I do! I think you can see the details very well, and I have included the card of the company. It seems to be from a company called Fatima in Recife, and the web page on the back of the card is fatimarendas.com.br Can you tell me something about this lace? Are there many lacemakers in Brazil? This lace, as you see, has both needle lace and bobbin lace. We are all very glad that you wrote to Arachne. If you have problems writing in English, please don't worry. There are always people on Arachne who are able to help with translation. Welcome! Tess No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.7/537 - Release Date: 11/17/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
