Re: [LegacyUG] Probable Bug - Bolding Notes in Event Screen

2015-04-03 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thanks, Brian.
  From: Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 3:35 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Probable Bug - Bolding Notes in Event Screen

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1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv2907804801 div.yiv2907804801WordSection1 {}--For what 
it’s worth, I followed the exact steps outlined by Dave Johnson in his message 
below and my results were as expected. There was no spurious /b, /I, or other 
code. Everything looked good on my end. I even tried various alternatives to 
the steps he outlined to see if I could force the issue but everything still 
looked good. Maybe I’m not following his steps correctly or this is a strange 
error that is only occurring on a limited number of users.   Brian in 
CAV8.0.0.473    From: Ana [mailto:anacyr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 12:14 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Probable Bug - Bolding Notes in Event Screen  I also 
have this problem (have 8.0.0.473) not just bold but also underlining, italics 
and so on.  On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Paula Ryburn 
paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:Has this been fixed by 8.0.0.473?  From: 
Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:37 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Probable Bug - Bolding Notes in Event Screen  Someone else 
may have noticed this bug, but I have seen no email regarding it. When 
documenting a census event, I transcribe the census record in the Notes Field.  
I typically start by pasting the text tab contents into each persons in a 
census record.  Then I Then I highlight the person whose Legacy Record I am 
working in.  The problem is that when I first Bold the name of the head of 
household and save the Event, instead of Bolding the first name, the system 
puts a /b in front of the name.  After the name has been saved and I pull it up 
again, I can delete the /b and Bold the name and then it holds.  An example is 
below: Text/Comments tab contains the transcribed Census Record for this 
household as follows: Elenor McGINNIS, head, white, female, born in Mar 1835, 
age 65, widowed, bore 6 children - 4 still alive, born in Kentucky, father born 
in Kentucky, mother born in Alabama, able to read write and speak English; Elza 
V McGINNIS, grandson, white, male, born in July 1856, age 13, single, born in 
Missouri, parents born in Kentucky, attended school, able to read write and 
speak English.   When I copy the text (above) and paste it into the Census 
Event Notes field, for Eleanor McGinnis, I put in one blank line followed by 
1)  just as Geoff explained in his Census Event DVD.  Then I delete the 
semi-colon after each person's information and replace it with a period.  Then 
I hit enter and type 2)  for the second person.  And so forth.  Before saving 
the record I Bold the first name, in this example Elenor McGinnis.  After 
saving the Census Event, when I reopen the census event it looks like this. 1) 
\bElenor McGINNIS, head, white, female, born in Mar 1835, age 65, widowed, bore 
6 children - 4 still alive, born in Kentucky, father born in Kentucky, mother 
born in Alabama, able to read write and speak English.2) Elza V McGINNIS, 
grandson, white, male, born in July 1856, age 13, single, born in Missouri, 
parents born in Kentucky, attended school, able to read write and speak 
English. but it should read as follows: 1) Elenor McGINNIS, head, white, 
female, born in Mar 1835, age 65, widowed, bore 6 children - 4 still alive, 
born in Kentucky, father born in Kentucky, mother born in Alabama, able to read 
write and speak English.2) Elza V McGINNIS, grandson, white, male

Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries

2015-04-03 Thread Paula Ryburn
Jenny,  Right.with the deed as the source document. Thx.
  From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries

On 01/04/2015 15:29, BARTON LEWIS wrote:
 That was part of my point about the different event types -- when to use
 land vs. deed.  Michele pointed out that deeds aren't just for land. The
 land event yields the language James Langston had land on the south
 side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina but it doesn't
 say how he acquired it - by deed, grant or otherwise.  I prefer the land
 language but, again, should you modify the sentence to specify how he
 acuired the land?

I would add all the extra information in the Event Notes, so the
Sentence might read something like James Langston had land on the south
side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina.  He purchased
this 5 acres of land from John Doe for $5 on 01 September 1810 and is
believed to have grazed cattle there.

--
Jenny M Benson




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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Report Issue

2015-04-03 Thread Paula Ryburn
Tom, I can't tell if you got an answer (I seldom have time to check the list 
these days).  Could it be possible that you are opening the old PDF that you 
originally sent to your cousin?  --Paula
  From: Tom Weiss tomgwe...@gmail.com
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 2:04 PM
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Descendant Report Issue

I created a descendant report for George X Sr.. I sent a pdf of the report to a 
cousin to help fill in the blanks. I entered the information she sent back, and 
reran the report, only to find that the previously missing info was still 
missing, even though it is in the database. I ran a descendant report on George 
X Jr, and the missing information was there. Why is it missing on the report 
for George X Sr.? I did a check repair on my database, but with no improvement.
Tom





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Re: [LegacyUG] Probable Bug - Bolding Notes in Event Screen

2015-04-03 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thanks, Mike.  Forgot they had these lists.  So, the answer is no...
  From: MikeFry emjay...@gmail.com
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 10:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Probable Bug - Bolding Notes in Event Screen

On 2015/04/01 16:21 PM, Paula Ryburn wrote:

 Has this been fixed by 8.0.0.473?

 From the website http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory8.asp :-

26 February 2015 - Version 8.0.0.473 - Build

    Fixed Items
    Dates - any [field] before a \[CoupleFirstNames]::[FirstHeShe] condition
was being lost. Fixed.
    Family Group Record - Marriage notes were being included even if that
option was turned off. Fixed.
    GEDCOM Export - Marriage Notes were not being exported if a living child's
info was being suppressed. Fixed.
    Marriage List Report - fixed a double colon issue (::)
    Media - Right Click on a picture in the Media Gallery and selecting Cut was
not removing the picture. Fixed.
    Parents List - Names weren't showing if set to Private. Fixed.
    Publishing Center - Reports after a colored Pedigree chart would sometimes
have colored text. Fixed.
    RTF Notes - A space was getting added before any formatting with each Save.
Fixed.
    Reports - Vital dates were sometimes getting a leading from inserted. 
Fixed.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry (Jhb)


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Re: [LegacyUG] Dates and Media

2015-04-01 Thread Paula Ryburn
Kay,  I think the date you are talking about is the one under the image, right? 
 That's only printed if the image is printed in reports--part of the caption.  
I don't think that field is even validated.  --Paula
  From: K Turner turnerhist...@gmail.com
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 11:20 AM
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Dates and Media

I am brand new to Legacy and I have searched the various helps on line but have 
not been able to find these answers and I want to be as correct as possible 
from the beginning of my entries.
When I am entering a media documentation such as a death certificate, it has a 
date field.  What date do most people put here?  I put todays date as the 
date I documented the info,    but then I began to wonder if it should be the 
date of death, the date the death was recorded, or what?
Also, is there one place to post the media and refer to it as needed or is it 
posted separately for each documentation... such as date of death, spouse name, 
parent name, etc?  I don't want to overload my files with the same image in so 
many different paces. 
Thanks for your help.  I hope my questions are clear and I am sure this is 
basic but I have not found clear answers so I thought it may be a personal 
opinion rather than a procedure that is followed and would like to know how 
others handle it.
Thanks,Kay

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Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries

2015-04-01 Thread Paula Ryburn
Would you really just say listed on a deed ?  Or would it be acquired first 
parcel of land on Black Creek or something that helps the reader of your 
report get the feel for what the deed really means?  (I am not a land documents 
expert, though.)  --Paula
  From: Barton Lewis bartonle...@optonline.net
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 10:25 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries

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1.0in;}#yiv0341058335 div.yiv0341058335WordSection1 {}--Michele, you said 
“Each deed will be in different books on different page numbers.  It would be 
pretty messy to try and record a single citation for 20 different deeds.”  What 
if there are 20 deeds abstracted in the same work for the same ancestor?  The 
only thing that will differ is the page number in the source citation and maybe 
the deed books – 10 of them may be in Deed Book A and the other 10 in Deed Book 
B.  That said, I do see your point about “one event – one source.”   My problem 
is that I find it rather monotonous to list events thusly:  James was listed on 
a deed on 20 Dec 1760 in Granville Co., NC.He was listed on a deed on 30 Jan 
1761 in Granville Co., NC.James was listed on a deed on 3 Feb 1761 in Granville 
Co., NC.  I appreciate that Legacy defines events based on individual specific 
records for an individual.  That said, in the Register Reports I generated when 
using PAF I entered the deed abstracts or court records or other sources into a 
“Notes” section which fell after the individual’s primary family data (the 
record of his/her marriage and children).  I’m not sure whether I’d prefer that 
level of detail within the report or in the end/footnote, with the event giving 
a summation only.    Barton          From: Michele/Support 
[mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 8:36 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries  Barton, You can create 
events for your land records.  There is a generic land record event but I 
prefer to make mine a little more specific (things like Georgia Headright, 
Bounty Land Warrant, etc.)     Totally up to you the way you handle deeds but I 
prefer to record each deed separately with separate citations.  Each deed will 
be in different books on different page numbers.  I would be pretty messy to 
try and record a single citation for 20 different deeds.  MicheleTechnical 
supportmich...@legacyfamilytree.comwww.legacyfamilytree.com   From: Barton 
Lewis [mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net]
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:56 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries  I have 2 questions about 
sources:  first, where do I enter land records?  I looked (also on Help) and 
did not see an obvious answer.  On the Individual’s Information page, for 
example, I guess I could click inside the surname field and add it there but 
I’m not sure that’s right.  PAF had fields for Military, Land etc.  Does Legacy 
not have those?  Also, some ancestors have dozens of records in a single county 
– e.g. in published abstracts of deeds.  I don’t really want to create a 
separate source entry for each one – I thought I would handle it thusly:  
create a single source, leave the page field blank, and paste the text into the 
Text/Comments field with the page number in square brackets for each record.  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree report

2015-04-01 Thread Paula Ryburn
Leif, A Pedigree Chart has a set format... specific data it will show.  There 
is very little you can add... see the Report Options  Include tab.  Basically, 
you will get name, birth date  place, death date  place, and for males 
marriage date  place.  --Paula
  From: Leif Hyldal leifhyl...@gmail.com
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 8:01 AM
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Pedigree report

When making a Pedigree report I see that the marking This couple did
not marry is empty in the field of marriage on the report, only the
MRIN-number is there. When the above marking is maded I would expect the
above sentance to appear on the report. Why didn't it?




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Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries

2015-04-01 Thread Paula Ryburn
I second Brian's comments... thanks for stating them so well, Brian. ;)It also 
depends on which reports you are going to use... and who will be reading them  
why.  I don't think I would want to have to read end notes to see the 
trail.--Paula
  From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 12:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries

Jumping in here, here are some thoughts on why you would record each
deed separately and how I would record other events:

1. Recording each deed separately adds to the chronology of the person
and lets you see that not all their land was acquired at the same time.
In a way it shows the growth in the family fortunes which gives a
clearer picture of their life. A downturn in fortune would also appear
if land is being disposed of piecemeal over time.

2. In cases where land is acquired in different areas you can track the
migration of the family over time.

3. Census sources include details of where a family is living, in those
cases I would record the place as a residence event since there is no
land record. My practice, unlike Geoff's is to record censuses as
sources for facts included in the census listing such as place of
residence, estimated birth dates based on age, family relationships etc.
Geoff records the census itself as an event.

Brian
Customer Support
br...@legacyfamilytree.com


On 30/03/2015 10:26 AM, BARTON LEWIS wrote:
 Thanks, Michele.  I try to get copies of original deeds for all direct
 ancestors; if I am documenting their siblings, and we're talking
 about dozens or hundreds of deeds, I may not.  It's just not practical.

 So ... I realize the book is the source when you're dealing with
 asbtracts, and what I meant to say was, would you always use a different
 cite for each event?  If you have 20 events, all for land on the same
 creek in the same county, for the same ancestor, would you consider
 creating a single event called James Langston had land on the south
 side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina, with one source
 (the same book of abstracts) and the text of the abstracts listed in the
 Text/Comments section?

 Otherwise, you're going to get 20 identical events (except for the date)
 which say he had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville
 County, North Carolina.

 What are the circumstances where you would use land as an event -- when
 it's not a deed, or grant, or other known record?

 Barton




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Re: [LegacyUG] Probable Bug - Bolding Notes in Event Screen

2015-04-01 Thread Paula Ryburn
Has this been fixed by 8.0.0.473?
  From: Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:37 AM
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Probable Bug - Bolding Notes in Event Screen

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div.yiv0164058649WordSection1 {}--Someone else may have noticed this bug, but 
I have seen no email regarding it.  When documenting a census event, I 
transcribe the census record in the Notes Field.  I typically start by pasting 
the text tab contents into each persons in a census record.  Then I Then I 
highlight the person whose Legacy Record I am working in.  The problem is that 
when I first Bold the name of the head of household and save the Event, instead 
of Bolding the first name, the system puts a /b in front of the name.  After 
the name has been saved and I pull it up again, I can delete the /b and Bold 
the name and then it holds.   An example is below:  Text/Comments tab contains 
the transcribed Census Record for this household as follows:  Elenor McGINNIS, 
head, white, female, born in Mar 1835, age 65, widowed, bore 6 children - 4 
still alive, born in Kentucky, father born in Kentucky, mother born in Alabama, 
able to read write and speak English; Elza V McGINNIS, grandson, white, male, 
born in July 1856, age 13, single, born in Missouri, parents born in Kentucky, 
attended school, able to read write and speak English.      When I copy the 
text (above) and paste it into the Census Event Notes field, for Eleanor 
McGinnis, I put in one blank line followed by 1)  just as Geoff explained in 
his Census Event DVD.  Then I delete the semi-colon after each person's 
information and replace it with a period.  Then I hit enter and type 2)  for 
the second person.  And so forth.  Before saving the record I Bold the first 
name, in this example Elenor McGinnis.  After saving the Census Event, when I 
reopen the census event it looks like this.  1) \bElenor McGINNIS, head, white, 
female, born in Mar 1835, age 65, widowed, bore 6 children - 4 still alive, 
born in Kentucky, father born in Kentucky, mother born in Alabama, able to read 
write and speak English.2) Elza V McGINNIS, grandson, white, male, born in July 
1856, age 13, single, born in Missouri, parents born in Kentucky, attended 
school, able to read write and speak English.  but it should read as follows:  
1) Elenor McGINNIS, head, white, female, born in Mar 1835, age 65, widowed, 
bore 6 children - 4 still alive, born in Kentucky, father born in Kentucky, 
mother born in Alabama, able to read write and speak English.2) Elza V 
McGINNIS, grandson, white, male, born in July 1856, age 13, single, born in 
Missouri, parents born in Kentucky, attended school, able to read write and 
speak English.  This seems to happen only when I paste the information into the 
note the first time.  Please see if you can replicate this error.  Thanks.  Dave

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Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology Report

2015-03-19 Thread Paula Ryburn
I know I am behind in reading these, but I just HAD to try the copy top-down  
bottom-up to see if it's true---it is!  How strange is that??  Thx for 
a chuckle.  --Paula in Texas
  From: Fred Lindsay fredlind...@sympatico.ca
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:35 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Chronology Report

!--#yiv6064072764 .yiv6064072764hmmessage 
P{margin:0px;padding:0px;}#yiv6064072764 
body.yiv6064072764hmmessage{font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;}--To Jessica:  
 There is only text in the Chronology Report.  For clarity I'm referring to the 
report generated when you click on 'Chronology' as shown in the Family view.
To Cathy: Based on your response, when I high-lighted the report starting at 
the top and pasted into Word, the page changed from Landscape to Portrait (not 
Profile as I stated earlier).  BUT, if I high light the Chronology Report from 
the bottom up and then paste, the page stays oriented in Landscape.  
Interesting and helpful  to know.ThanksFred
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 07:42:19 +0800
From: genea...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology Report

Hi Fred,

I'd never thought of copying the Chronology report and didn't know you could.

You can't format the names with surname first as far as I can see. You can 
reverse dates and locations.

Re the reversion to landscape problem. I've found if I copy without the final 
character (looks like a space but is obviously holding formatting) it stays as 
landscape but you lose the tabs for the last line/s.

Cathy
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[LegacyUG] Re: You do not have permission to post to the legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com list

2015-03-19 Thread Paula Ryburn
Was I removed due to inactivity?  Because I've been on the list for years.  
Please remind me how to subscribe again.  Thanks, --Paula in Texas
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Re: [LegacyUG] Event location somehow got changed

2015-01-31 Thread Paula Ryburn
Bill,  I know about the one where I select the two locations to be combined, 
but this thread made it sound like there was some internal logic that 
automatically combined locations.  Or maybe I was reading it too late at night? 
 Thx.  --Paula



 From: William Hoff bh...@mchsi.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event location somehow got changed



Yes the feature to combine locations is there. I use infrequently but have 
used, in fact last night
Bill




On Jan 16, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


I've not heard of this internal 'combine/combine with' feature.  Is it truly 
there?


The OP made me think of how many similar locations I have and that sometimes I 
don't type enough letters to get the correct one to display before I tab on to 
the next field... and how maybe tabbing accidentally to the field and then 
doing something (I know we all do something unintentional  don't notice it) 
caused a similar location to display  subsequently be saved.  I hadn't seen 
any mention of what the new location is on the records in question.  Just a 
thought.
--Paula




 From: Howard Cady howardc...@q.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event location somehow got changed



I have noticed that when editing locations that my current option
selections and version of Legacy V8 (the latest) has an automatic internal
“combine/combine with” feature that sometimes creates unexpected results.
I have not determined what particular set of matches causes this automatic
combine, but I am not using the conventional US 4 place location convention and
I do know that mismatched lat/long entries do not prevent combining.  This
might be the cause for others to have unexpected event changes.
Howard Cady
From: Gene Wheeler
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 10:05 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event location somehow got
changed
  Thanks, Ron.  Very helpful.

Gene


On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:37 AM, ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

We Do not know!

Ron Ferguson

Gene Wheeler bridge...@gmail.com wrote:


OK, Legacy Support, what's going on here?

Gene


On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Jess jrkmorg...@gmail.com wrote:

I had this issue as well, and honestly thought I was crazy! I had at least a 
dozen people with burial location of Bellvieu Cemetery, Benton, Bossier 
Parish, Louisiana. I know this because I was going from a book and can source 
every one (it is a family plot). I went to print a list so To make sure I 
photographed all of them when I went, and it only gave me three people.

Jessica Morgan

On Jan 4, 2015, at 6:07 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:


O help. I don't think you're going mad.

I had this happen the
other day but caught it straight away and wasn't sure what I'd done. Just
one location changed to a new location I'd just entered. The new location
was a birth location. The location that changed was the death and burial
location for that person and for everyone using that death location. I know
I made a mess of the new entry and edited it a few times as I found out more
about the location. I was also having some computer problems and Legacy
crashed a couple of times so I put it down to that.

I've now
restored an earlier image of my computer and all seems well
again.

Cathy

Gene Wheeler wrote:


No, no clean-up, no merging, nothing like
  that.  In fact, I've been
working on a totally different Legacy
  file for the past month.

Gene

O n Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 10:58
  AM, MikeFry emjay...@gmail.com
mailto:emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

On 2015/01/04 05:43 PM, Gene Wheeler
  wrote:
 I'm using the current release of v.8 and
  have been for months.
I just

   happened to notice that the location for the burial of both
  of
my parents
 was changed
  to the same incorrect cemetery.  The correct

  cemetery has been
 part of their records for
  years, and now, somehow, they BOTH got
changed
  to
 the same incorrect cemetery.  Any idea
  what gives?  It makes me
wonder
  how
 many other records got changed without my
  knowledge.

Been doing any spring cleaning of
  locations?

 nbsp;   --

  Regards,
Mike Fry
(Jhb)






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Re: [LegacyUG] ahnentafel numbers on ancestor report

2015-01-31 Thread Paula Ryburn
I for one don't like the sound of that... major rewrite...



 From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] ahnentafel numbers on ancestor report


I think this is a timing issue. The higher numbered kids have not had
their Ahnentafel number calculated yet when the problem family is
included in the report.

I have referred this to the programmer because it will take a major
rewrite of the way the report is produced to pre-scan and calculate
Ahnentafel numbers for everyone in the report before starting to print
the pages.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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Re: [LegacyUG] Fallout from Location cleanup

2015-01-16 Thread Paula Ryburn
You might not want to purge a location just because it is not used YET, so you 
would select locations yourself to be deleted.  --Paula



 From: Stratton s...@ix.netcom.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fallout from Location cleanup



I use delete in the options on the right side of screen
purge unused is also in the options on the right side of screen.
I did not see purge unused before and do not know what the
  difference is for it and delete.
Richard


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Re: [LegacyUG] Event location somehow got changed

2015-01-16 Thread Paula Ryburn
I've not heard of this internal 'combine/combine with' feature.  Is it truly 
there?

The OP made me think of how many similar locations I have and that sometimes I 
don't type enough letters to get the correct one to display before I tab on to 
the next field... and how maybe tabbing accidentally to the field and then 
doing something (I know we all do something unintentional  don't notice it) 
caused a similar location to display  subsequently be saved.  I hadn't seen 
any mention of what the new location is on the records in question.  Just a 
thought.
--Paula



 From: Howard Cady howardc...@q.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event location somehow got changed



I have noticed that when editing locations that my current option
selections and version of Legacy V8 (the latest) has an automatic internal
“combine/combine with” feature that sometimes creates unexpected results.
I have not determined what particular set of matches causes this automatic
combine, but I am not using the conventional US 4 place location convention and
I do know that mismatched lat/long entries do not prevent combining.  This
might be the cause for others to have unexpected event changes.
Howard Cady
From: Gene Wheeler
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 10:05 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event location somehow got
changed
  Thanks, Ron.  Very helpful.

Gene


On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:37 AM, ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

We Do not know!

Ron Ferguson

Gene Wheeler bridge...@gmail.com wrote:


OK, Legacy Support, what's going on here?

Gene


On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Jess jrkmorg...@gmail.com wrote:

I had this issue as well, and honestly thought I was crazy! I had at least a 
dozen people with burial location of Bellvieu Cemetery, Benton, Bossier 
Parish, Louisiana. I know this because I was going from a book and can source 
every one (it is a family plot). I went to print a list so To make sure I 
photographed all of them when I went, and it only gave me three people.

Jessica Morgan

On Jan 4, 2015, at 6:07 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:


O help. I don't think you're going mad.

I had this happen the
other day but caught it straight away and wasn't sure what I'd done. Just
one location changed to a new location I'd just entered. The new location
was a birth location. The location that changed was the death and burial
location for that person and for everyone using that death location. I know
I made a mess of the new entry and edited it a few times as I found out more
about the location. I was also having some computer problems and Legacy
crashed a couple of times so I put it down to that.

I've now
restored an earlier image of my computer and all seems well
again.

Cathy

Gene Wheeler wrote:


No, no clean-up, no merging, nothing like
  that.  In fact, I've been
working on a totally different Legacy
  file for the past month.

Gene

O n Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 10:58
  AM, MikeFry emjay...@gmail.com
mailto:emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

On 2015/01/04 05:43 PM, Gene Wheeler
  wrote:
 I'm using the current release of v.8 and
  have been for months.
I just

   happened to notice that the location for the burial of both
  of
my parents
 was changed
  to the same incorrect cemetery.  The correct

  cemetery has been
 part of their records for
  years, and now, somehow, they BOTH got
changed
  to
 the same incorrect cemetery.  Any idea
  what gives?  It makes me
wonder
  how
 many other records got changed without my
  knowledge.

Been doing any spring cleaning of
  locations?

 nbsp;   --

  Regards,
Mike Fry
(Jhb)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Direct line descendant report

2015-01-16 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thanks for that info, Pat.  The spouses are included automatically!  --P



 From: Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Direct line descendant report



Somebody said the relationship calculator direct line of descent doesn't 
include spouses -- but when I do it it does include spouses -- and I like the 
ability to add boxes and include pictures -- etc.  It's really quite 
atttractive to my way of thinking.

Pat


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Jane,

If you were wanting all the direct lines, you could tag in Advanced Tagging 
ancestors (not entire ancestor line) but you seem to be only wanting one line. 
So you need to use the Relationship Calculator (on the Tools ribbon) and then 
Options - tag relationship line - if you don't want to do them one at a time.
But this doesn't even include their spouses so you may need to add them when 
exporting.
The Print from the Relationship Calculator includes the spouses.

Cathy

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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Addresses

2015-01-16 Thread Paula Ryburn
I cannot help you with GEDCOM questions.  And you've already received a taste 
of the eternal debate between Locations and Event Addresses.  For more 
discussion on those, you can search this list's archives for older threads.  
Good luck!  --Paula in Texas



 From: Arthur  Pauline Kennedy ken...@paxnet.co.uk
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Addresses


I've have some help on this, but nothing really got to the bottom of how
or why n/a gets inserted into some of the event addresses when I do a
GEDCOM import, and whether there is anything I can do about it, before,
during or after the import.

As I said in a different message, it makes we wonder (and worry) whether
there were any other unwanted changes to my data when I imported it.

Can anyone help further, please?

Arthur

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Re: [LegacyUG] Creating List of a Person's Relatives

2015-01-16 Thread Paula Ryburn
I did this recently, and I think it involved exporting the report to a CVS 
file, opening in Excel  sorting the info there.  --Paula in Texas



 From: Cecily Bishop wilde...@prodigy.net
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating List of a Person's Relatives



Is there a way to sort the relationships? I don't see it as a report option.


Cecily

I seek dead people






 From: Jess jrkmorg...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating List of a Person's Relatives


Reports  Other Reports  Relationship Report

Jessica Morgan

On Jan 15, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Mary Young m...@cmy.org.uk wrote:

After Setting Relationships for a starting person, is there an easy
way to get a list of their relatives?  I can see them in the
Relationships column of the Index View, but the Grid cannot be sorted
on that column. Can Legacy create a clickable search list, or at least
a print to PDF of all relatives' names and RINs? If not, perhaps
someone can suggest a way to export the information and create such a
list.  I would be grateful for any help.
Mary Young




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Re: [LegacyUG] Online document available for each person?

2015-01-16 Thread Paula Ryburn
Sort of depends on what you're researching.  For example, if you're going to be 
looking for grave markers in Michigan, use Search to find who is buried there, 
then Print  List Report Options to get the information you will need printed.  
Also can output a CSV file for Excel import.  Hope this helps.  --Paula in Texas



 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Online document available for each person?


The To-Do List - an excellent feature for keeping track of things to
do and things done.

You can also create the report in CSV and open that in Excel.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Gerald E Boor bearjerca...@gmail.com wrote:

 Doesn't Legacy have some built in functionality for research? I haven't used 
 it yet. But if you know Microsoft Access or a similar database program, it 
 would do what you need in a more powerful way than you can do with Excel. I'm 
 in the process of learning it more thoroughly myself. Jerry in Michigan, USA




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Re: [LegacyUG] Voice Recognition Software

2015-01-01 Thread Paula Ryburn
small world - am on Outer Banks, NC, and will be driving to Atlanta 
tomorrow... will wave, ha!
Looking forward to watching your video, Bobby, and investigating the Dragon app.
Happy New Year!
--Paula from Texas



 From: Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 4:37 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Voice Recognition Software


Thanks Michele. I don't have an accent everybody else does. Yes you could be 
close, I live in North Carolina 3 miles from the Georgia border. Murphy to be 
exact. Graduated from Berry College in Rome Georgia.

If Dragon can understand me then other people should not have a problem. I find 
that it works well with Legacy.

Bobby

 -Original Message-
 From: Michele/Support
 [mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 5:12 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Voice Recognition Software

 Bobby,
 Nice job!  So with that accent I am thinking you are from my
 part of the country (I live in Georgia).   I recently bought
 Dragon but I haven't had time to work with it yet.  I am
 thinking I will be using it more for the notes fields but I have
 to say I was impressed with how you were able to navigate
 the Master Source List and then fill in the detail screen :)

 Michele
 Technical Support
 mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
 www.legacyfamilytree.com

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 From: Bobby Johnson [mailto:b...@brmemc.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 4:06 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Voice Recognition Software

 Happy new year everybody!!!

 I have recently become a fan of voice recognition software.
 Especially after viewing the recent webinar on this subject.
 At the time of the webinar I had had Dragon Naturally
 Speaking installed on my computer for about 3 weeks. With
 a little practice, I am now using it to enter data into Legacy
 almost exclusively.

 I've just completed making a short video (about 20 minutes)
 demonstrating how I use Dragon with Legacy. If you are
 interested in viewing this you may download it at the
 following link:

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/508bulqmn2a8p6f/LFT-
 Dragon.mp4?dl=
 0

 Please don't expect this to be a Geoff Rasmussen quality
 video, but perhaps you can get some ideas of how it can be
 used.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tiny tafel

2014-12-26 Thread Paula Ryburn
I've never heard of this Tiny Tafel.  Can you describe the report you want to 
produce?  --Paula



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Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 12:33 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Tiny tafel


I did a search of Help for Tiny Tafel, but found nothing.  I suppose a
report might be constructable to do one, but I am not sure how to go
about it.  Ideas?

Jane S.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Origins Report revisited

2014-12-07 Thread Paula Ryburn
Cheryl,
So, Northern Ireland did not show up?  Which is correct, right?
But you were expecting India to show up?  Are you sure you selected your son as 
the target person  not yourself?
Can you select your husband as target person  see if India shows up for him?
I wonder if Legacy just doesn't recognize India??  (that makes no sense)
--Paula



 From: singhals singh...@erols.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Origins Report revisited


Mornin', Paula.  Oddly, yours is the only response.

Please wait ... Testing ...  There's still something wrong.

With only oldest and 7 generations selected, I get his
origins as VA, WV, PA, and MD.  All true ON MY SIDE.  No
mention of the other half of his origins (India).

At 9 generations and still only oldest, I get USA, England,
and Germany.  Again India is missing.

At 12 gens, all origins are England.  At 13 gens it finds no
recognizable places

Odd.

Cheryl



Paula Ryburn wrote:
 Cheryl, I don't know if you received responses on this post,
 but you could try to track down the Northern Ireland
 ancestor but runnin successive Origins Reports, with your
 son selected. Set Origin Scope to the third choice,
 only... oldest generation. Then look back (say) 2
 generations. Preview. Northern Ireland flag showing? No... 3
 generations, then 4 generations... keep looking back
 generation by generation until Northern Ireland shows up.
 Then take a look at those folks for clues. (use pedigree
 chart from your son back to that generation...? or pedigree
 view)

 The report shows just what I suspected for my daughter's
 ancestry, both in the only... oldest setting and in the
 all ancestors setting (accumulation of generations). --Paula

 
 *From:* singhals singh...@erols.com
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 1:41 PM
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Origins Report revisited

 I didn't want to start a discussion sure to provide heat
 just before I scooted out of town for a month, so I'm
 backtracking here to what Brian quoted in the discussion on
 Ethnicity back in early October.

   split apart for centuries. Legacy can gather all the
   ancestral birth
   places in your family file and let you know what
   percentage of each
   nationality makes up your heritage.



 I'm puzzled by just exactly what that report is gathering.

 I ran an Origins report on my son. I was quite surprised to
 learn he has/had an ancestor from Northern Ireland.

 So I did a search on Individual  birthplace  contains
 Ireland and got two hits. Both the hits for an Irish
 birthplace are in fact part of the family -- but are NOT one
 of his ancestors. One person is the 5ggf of my uncle's
 ex-son-in-law. The other is the brother of an ancestor of
 my GM's brother's wife. More, neither of them specify
 Northern Ireland, all I have is Ireland. Even if both
 of them were born before Northern Ireland officially split
 off Ireland ... neither of them is in any way, shape, or
 form an ancestor of my son's.

 Just sayin' ...

 Cheryl




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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7

2014-12-04 Thread Paula Ryburn
Dawn,  Given the information you have shared, it might be that what you want to 
do is better handled by Legacy's TAGGING feature.  I don't remember how much 
tagging is covered in free Legacy's help file, but you might want to take a 
read there.  Colors can be set over and over again as you move people around 
in your ancestor tree.  --Paula



 From: Dawn Beeks dawnbe...@msn.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 9:01 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7



I'm A TMG user but now have to look for new home, since TMG will no longer be 
tech supported, just forum.
I've narrowed down to these 2 software programs and both have great features. I 
think it's coming down to the coloring features.  TMG has a slew of colors to 
choose from, for however you wanted to setup your lines, such as, non-related 
lines with same name, unknown lineages, adopted lines, lines from Europe, etc 
etc.
In Legacy, I’m not fully understanding the coloring system.  It seems line I 
can only do two color scheme in each project. I have one project with seven 
different lines of the same name.  I don’t want to make 7 projects because a 
lot of the people are in the wrong lines and I need to switch over into correct 
colored line.  Also I have only the standard Legacy, I haven’t bought the 
deluxe, so maybe you can do this but only in the deluxe level?
II read that Legacy is working with TMG to do a transfer file, will the color 
system be worked in, to be brought over?
Or has any TMG switched and found the color coding to be okay. I would hate to 
do this and find my coloring system gone.  TKS

·
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Re: [LegacyUG] UserID

2014-12-04 Thread Paula Ryburn
Alan,  Being that it's user-defined, I don't think there is any relationship 
other than with the record on which the field resides.  Legacy allows you to 
search  report, once you've entered it.  Just my two cents; I don't use that 
field... er, maybe that's why?  ;)  --Paula



 From: Alan Pereira alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] UserID



Sherry, is that field linked relationally to any other in the database?

Alan

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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestor Book - biologic adoptive parents

2014-12-04 Thread Paula Ryburn
Evelyn, I tested this out in the sample database.  I added myself as an 
unlinked individual.  Then in family view, I added first one set of parents, 
and then another set of parents.  I'm assuming this is similar to the (if not 
the same) method you used.  If I select the first set of parents on family 
view, then select ancestor book report, it runs for those parents  their 
ancestors.  If I select the second set of parents on family view, the ancestor 
book is for them  their ancestors.  Beyond that, I don't know how to combine 
those reports..  well, you could combine two reports in the 
publishing center, but really they would be two separate chapters still.  What 
is your ultimate objective?  --Paula in Texas



 From: Evelyn .. ej1...@gmail.com
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Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 5:57 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Ancestor Book - biologic  adoptive parents



I would like to have the Ancestor Book (narrative) show both sets of parents 
for an individual.  I have found 'multiple lines of descent' information, but 
nothing on multiple lines of ACCENT.  Is this possible?

If this is NOT possible, how do I get the report to follow the adoptive line 
instead of the biologic line?

Thanks for your help!
- Evelyn


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Re: [LegacyUG] Find duplicate events

2014-12-04 Thread Paula Ryburn
Kyle,  What would your definition of a duplicate event be?  Just need a bit 
more information. ;)  Thx.  --Paula in Texas



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To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 6:52 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Find duplicate events



I was wondering if there was a easy way to find duplicate events. I did a 
import from legacy into Family Tree Maker so that I can keep ancestry in sync 
with my main database. Family Tree Maker did a horrible job of finding 
duplicate events. I was wondering if Legacy had a way to find duplicate events.

Regards,

Kyle L.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Marian Pierre-Louis joins Legacy Family Tree Team

2014-12-04 Thread Paula Ryburn
WONDERFUL NEWS!



 From: Geoff Rasmussen ge...@legacyusers.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:32 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Marian Pierre-Louis joins Legacy Family Tree Team



Legacy Family Tree is pleased to announce the addition of Marian Pierre-Louis, 
to our Legacy team. Marian will act as the Social Media Marketing Manager and 
provide outreach to Legacy customers through the Legacy blog, Facebook, Google+ 
and Twitter. Marian will also guest-host our new evening webinars in 2015.
Marian is well-known in the genealogical community as a house historian and 
professional genealogist who focuses on New England research. She has also been 
a popular presenter on the Legacy Family Tree Webinar series. Marian 
specializes in probate, deeds, New England town records and brick wall 
research. Marian is Program Co-Chairperson for the 2015 New England Regional 
Genealogical Conference (NERGC) and is actively involved with the New England 
chapter of the Association of Professional Genealogists. She is also a Director 
of the Federation of Genealogical Societies. In addition, she is the host of 
Fieldstone Common, an internet radio show dedicated to northeastern history and 
genealogy and The Genealogy Professional podcast, a show for anyone interested 
in a career in genealogy.
Legacy's Geoff Rasmussen said, We are excited to add Marian and her unique set 
of skills to our Legacy Family Tree team. She has a genuine enthusiasm for 
genealogists and genealogy research that will resonate well with our software 
users and webinar audience. We, and our Legacy customers are lucky to have her 
on our team.
Marian brings 15 years of corporate marketing experience in the engineering and 
semiconductor industries as well as 8 years' experience promoting a small 
business. In addition to social media her areas of expertise include running 
targeted marketing campaigns, copywriting, website design and maintenance, and 
audio and video production.
Join the celebration!
To celebrate her arrival, we've gone to the webinar membership vaults and 
unlocked one of Marian's popular webinars, Ten Brick Wall Tips for Intermediate 
Researchers. Normally available only for annual or monthly webinar subscribers, 
this webinar is free to the public until Thursday, November 27, 2014. Click 
here to watch.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing the National Burial Index for England Wales

2014-12-04 Thread Paula Ryburn
Jenny, better late than never...?  I think this sounds good.  But then I 
almost always defer to you on matters of citing sources in Legacy! ;)  --Paula



 From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:15 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing the National Burial Index for England  Wales


Perhaps surprisingly, I have just cited the National Burial Index (as
published on FindMyPast) for the first time.

I have used the SW template Death RecordsDeath RegisterCreated at
State/Provincial LevelOnline Database, entering only the name of the
database and the website details in the Master Source.  At Detail level
I have put entry for John West, 1834 as the Item of Interest and
citing records from Coln St Aldwyn, Gloucestershire for Credit Line.
I've copied the complete transcription to Source Detail Text and put
Transcription © Gloucestershire Family History Society in the Source
Detail Comment field.

I'd welcome any comments or criticisms from LUGgers.
--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Creating a mtDNA LIST of ancestors

2014-11-09 Thread Paula Ryburn
Hey, Ron.  I finally found some time to try out your procedure for finding 
mtDNA matches for myself.
I have a very short longest maternal line, so it was easy to verify results.  
My mother  grandmother had no sisters, but my great-grandmother had two 
sisters.  The sisters show in the final results, but their daughters do not.  I 
can see that an intersection of my (or my daughter's) ancestors and Abigail 
Whipple's descendents wouldn't include the sisters' daughters, but if I were 
looking to see who else was alive that might be carrying the same mtDNA as 
myself, I would want to include these daughters, and their daughters, and so 
on.  Any thoughts on how I could tweak the procedure?  Not urgent for me, just 
wondering.
Thanks,

--Paula in Texas



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 On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 wrote:

 Jessica,

 Please see http://www.fergys.co.uk/Blogs/Y-DNA_Search.php

 Although this was written and tested for Legacy V7.5, I see no reason why
 it will not work in V8.0. Select include siblings from the options.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/


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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report

2014-11-09 Thread Paula Ryburn
Glenn,  I just tried the FGS for a family where the husband and wife each had 
events, the marriage had events, and both of their two children had events.  
All of the events printed out just fine, in the numbered, non-bulleted  
combined versions of the Event Sentence Formatting, as well as the List Style 
Formatting (which is now the same as the numbered).  Do you have all three 
types of events checked on the Report Options  Include tab?  Sounds like that 
might be the problem.  Good luck!  --Paula  (Richmond, Texas)



 From: Glenn Kinkade glennkink...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 7:50 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report



I have Legacy Family Tree Version 8.0.0 454 installed.  I am trying to print a 
Family Group Sheet for a family.  The husband has 9 events, the wife has 5 
events, one child has 3 events, and one child has 4 events.  On the Family 
Group Report option under the Include Tab I have check Events for husband and 
wife, marriage, and children. Under the Format Tab-Event Narrative Format i 
have tried both Event Sentence Formatting and List Style Formatting.  The 
events are listed for the children but not for the husband and wife when I use 
Event Narrative Format and when I use Event Sentence Formatting.  I checked the 
Options - Customize and did not find anything that looked like it would solve 
the problem.

Any ideas?  Help.

Glenn Kinkade
Dallas, Texas

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Re: [LegacyUG] Creating a mtDNA LIST of ancestors

2014-11-06 Thread Paula Ryburn
I haven't read Ron's technique, but if you get a list of individuals in search 
results, then tag them and export them into a separate Legacy database, and 
then run the descendant report...?  --P



 From: Jessica Morgan jrkmorg...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating a mtDNA LIST of ancestors



Correct, but I don't want a chart, I need a list in report format. UGH. I may 
just freehand it. I put in a suggestion for it. A haplogroup research manager 
wants this report, and it is a vital piece of a puzzle piece for me on my 
lineage work.


Jessica Morgan
Sr Engineering
Technologist, Black Stone Minerals
Chair, SPE GCS
Petro-Tech Study Group
**
GedMatch kits: A064089 (SMK), A276959 (JRK), A608610 (TJ), A798429 (Jo), 
A817318 (JRKM), M399320 (JKM), M918651 (MM), several phasing kits as well
FTDNA kits: B12555 (SMK), B12524 (JMM), B13031 (JKM), 368036 (CJ)
Ancestry.com: jrkmorgan - all trees private
Hometown Cotton Valley, Louisiana. Ratcliff/Lockey
and Allen/Morgan decent. Researching Allen, Bandy, Basinger, Bethune, Beshea,
Cruthirds, Kaylor, Lockey, Morgan, McGarity, Ratcliff, Striplin, Teague,
Umphries, Urquhart, Wilkins - Current generations Louisiana, Arkansas areas;
Migratory from Alabama, North Carolina


On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:

Ron has an excellent suggestion.

You can include all that info in a List Report from the Search List.
However, the report will be in order based on the order of the Search
List - i.e., RIN, Given or Surname.

You can create the report in CSV and open that in your spreadsheet
program to sort by relationship, but it wouldn't sort in Descendant
order.

There is a lineage report in Legacy, but it's paternal only and
doesn't include all the info you want. The closest to what you want is
the female DNA chart in Legacy Charting.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Jessica Morgan jrkmorg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank you. This will give me at least a list of the right people, but I need
 an ordered Descendant report that shows the relationships to each other,
 birth, death, and marriage dates with spouse names.

 I suppose if I export the gedcom file of these tagged it will give me a file
 to work with and create the report. I prefer to not export a gedcom and do
 it that way though. This is a very complicated way to get a simple report.

 Jessica

 Jessica Morgan



 On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 wrote:

 Jessica,

 Please see http://www.fergys.co.uk/Blogs/Y-DNA_Search.php

 Although this was written and tested for Legacy V7.5, I see no reason why
 it will not work in V8.0. Select include siblings from the options.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/


 From: Jessica Morgan
 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 6:09 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Creating a mtDNA LIST of ancestors

 I need to create a list of people in my database ascending from my
 daughter, that would carry the same mtDNA as she does. So the maternal line
 from my daughter, to me, to my mother, to her mother, etc. as far back as I
 can go.

 I need to include siblings that would carry this mtDNA, as well as their
 spouses.

 I want a list, such as a descendant report, NOT a chart. So using Legacy
 Charting is out. I've looked at the various report options, and tagging
 mechanisms, and still can't get anything to output what I am looking for.

 Can anyone offer any help?

 Jessica Morgan



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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events on reports

2014-11-05 Thread Paula Ryburn
I agree.  This was a problem before Legacy introduced the shared events 
feature.  I had been entering Census marriage events, so on an Individual 
report, it looks like they were not in any census while they were married, for 
example.  IMO, another snazzy feature not fully thought out, on top of not 
fully developed marriage events.  I mean, on the output side of things.  Input 
works  I'm sure the tables are fine. ;)
--P



 From: Chris Brady cbr...@net2nettech.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 3:54 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Shared events on reports



Jay,

I just find it odd, if you will, that even though it is a shared event under 
the marriage, electing to show shared events will not result in in showing on 
an individual’s report. Just because an event happened during a marriage – why 
would an individual’s report act as though the event never happened at all?

Whereas if it were added to the husband as an event and then shared with the 
wife – it would show on the wife’ report if the option to show shared events 
was selected. It would always show on the husband’s individual report.

The behavior is inconsistent. They are both events. In the first case, both the 
husband  wife are principals to an event. In the second case, the husband is 
the principal. Why would the wife’s individual report in the first case omit 
the event entirely?

I don’t understand the distinction that because there are two principals to an 
event – that it is somehow not part of an individual’s history. During the 
course of a marriage, there are many activities that may be done as a couple – 
buying property, establishing residencies, etc.  It appears that I am 
perceiving the marriage events in Legacy incorrectly and they are not meant for 
that.

Thanks for your insight Jay,

Chris


From:Jay Wilpolt [mailto:jaywilp...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 2:25 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events on reports

Chris,
I have been adding events to marriages even before 'shared events' came along 
in Ver 8.
These work great for events where the couple is the focus, like a newspaper 
marriage or anniversary event. And they will show on reports (as events for 
that marriage) not under individual's because the event is added to only the 
marriage.
You could duplicate it for each individual, but then it would most likely 
appear thee times on a report.
Jay

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Chris Brady cbr...@net2nettech.com wrote:
Thanks Paula,

Brian had responded earlier with this:

“1. The Individual Report does not include Marriage Events whether these are 
for the person's marriage(s) or are shared from another couple so electing to 
include shared events will not include shared marriage events.

2. Your assumption that sharing a marriage event means that it becomes a 
shared event for the persons in the couple is also incorrect. The husband and 
wife in a marriage are the principals for any events in their marriage not a 
person who is sharing. That is why the marriage event for the couple will only 
be included in an FGR for them and are not listed as shared event for the 
husband in FGRs for any other marriages.”

That seems to indicate that shared marriage events are basically second class 
events that do not have the same status as other events. I had intended to use 
them for events that both husband  wife shared during the course of a 
marriage – ie, if both bought property together etc as that would help show 
the course of events during their lifetime. However, it really doesn’t work 
when none of those events will show on reports, especially if they had other 
spouses during their lifetime.

Thanks,
Chris


From:Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 11:13 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events on reports

Chris, I don't use the new shared events, but I'll venture a guess here.  You 
have added a marriage event for this couple... sure, it's shared by these 
two, but I doubt anything has been added into the new tables/fields for shared 
events.  The fact that it shows up only for this couple supports it not being 
one of the new shared events.  If you didn't go through the new windows to 
enter roles, etc., then this is not really a shared event per the programming 
logic.  Just my guess.  --Paula




From:Chris Brady cbr...@net2nettech.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 2:11 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Shared events on reports

Has anyone been using shared events created under the marriage tab?

Using Build 439, I created a shared event under the marriage tab of a couple. 
By default, that would make it a shared event between those two people.

The event will only print on a family group sheet for that exact couple (the 
husband has multiple marriages).  One 

Re: Fwd: Re: [LegacyUG] guardianship

2014-10-29 Thread Paula Ryburn
Bob,  I absolutely love how you've indicated Events you've created.  I will 
need to do that myself!  Hmm... I wonder if I should also indicate standard 
Events where I've changed the wording... hmm.
Thanks again,
--Paula



 From: Robert57P_gmail robert...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:50 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: [LegacyUG] guardianship



snip

I also created a event named .Legal Guardian so I can have it show up
in the correct date sequence of when the guardianship actually
occurred.  (I prefix any event names that I create myself with a . -
that way I know to watch the results/wording in various different
reports a little more carefully.)

Bob

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Re: Re: [LegacyUG] guardianship

2014-10-29 Thread Paula Ryburn
Pat, I like this idea, too.  Sort of your own Notes field for anything that 
is out of the ordinary for this family unit.  Nice.  Thanks!  --Paula



 From: Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [LegacyUG] guardianship



I have an event  named Family into which I put these kinds of things.

Pat
snip


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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events on reports

2014-10-29 Thread Paula Ryburn
Chris, I don't use the new shared events, but I'll venture a guess here.  You 
have added a marriage event for this couple... sure, it's shared by these 
two, but I doubt anything has been added into the new tables/fields for shared 
events.  The fact that it shows up only for this couple supports it not being 
one of the new shared events.  If you didn't go through the new windows to 
enter roles, etc., then this is not really a shared event per the programming 
logic.  Just my guess.  --Paula



 From: Chris Brady cbr...@net2nettech.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 2:11 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Shared events on reports



Has anyone been using shared events created under the marriage tab?

Using Build 439, I created a shared event under the marriage tab of a couple. 
By default, that would make it a shared event between those two people.

The event will only print on a family group sheet for that exact couple (the 
husband has multiple marriages).  One of the report options – event options -  
is “include events they shared from another person or marriage”.

Regardless of whether that is checked or not – if I print a group sheet for the 
husband with a wife other than the one with whom I did the shared event – that 
event does not show up.  The event also does not show up when an Individual 
Report is printed on the husband – again, even when the “include events they 
shared from another person or marriage” is selected.

I’ve played with every combination under Report Options – Event Options for 
both reports – and I cannot get the event to print. As it does print when that 
couple is the focus of a Family Group Sheet Report – it does not seem that it 
is the option selection which is the cause of the print problem.

I’d appreciate any advice on what I’m doing wrong. I’d love to be able to use 
shared events at this level, but not if I can’t get them to print.

Regards,
Chris Brady

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Re: Revisited - [LegacyUG] Sourcing - just don't get it!

2014-10-29 Thread Paula Ryburn
Olwyn,  I tend to have the first word in a master source name be the type of 
document... births, census, deaths, marriages, newspaper, personal, vital, etc. 
-- then follow with a location identifier, usually state for me.  I have only 
one line that jumps the pond 2 generations ago, so I don't have a lot of non-US 
locations. ;)
--Paula



 From: Olwyn Bourne dobou...@hotmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 12:02 AM
Subject: RE: Revisited - [LegacyUG] Sourcing - just don't get it!




I'm still perfecting my own naming convention and always looking to improve.  
The primary reason for my email was a thank you and my comment was only meant 
as a observation question.   In the Webinar Geoff (and I love everything you do 
Geoff) had his documents and pictures in folders with country being the highest 
location level yet his Source List Name had state as the highest location 
level.   I was only wondering why.

Olwyn



 From: genea...@gmail.com
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: Revisited - [LegacyUG] Sourcing - just don't get it!
 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:35:37 +0800

 Olwyn,

 The Source List Name which is what I think you mean by Source Title
 since you talk about starting with a place - which is what Geoff does -
 is just for you to help you find the Master source again and keep them
 in some logical order.
 If you (not others like me who don't know all the US States and Canadian
 Provinces) need the country to identify that Ohio is in the USA and not
 in Canada or elsewhere, then put it in, if not, don't.
 I don't start the Source List Name with the place at all since I have
 very little USA research and the place down to US county level is not so
 important or not important at all as that's not where the records I use
 are kept.  I start the Source List Name with the Source Type and then
 mention the country or place later.
 The Source List Name is for you only unless you use Basic Sources and
 are very lazy and use it as the Source Title  - in which case either
 your Master Source list isn't nicely ordered or the Source Title isn't
 properly formatted.

 Cathy

  Olwyn Bourne mailto:dobou...@hotmail.com
  Friday, 24 October 2014 5:35 AM
  I have recently downloaded and started using L8.   When I read this
  email back in April I flagged it as a must watch, I did so today.
  In 2011 I had watched the Webinars on adding a Marriage Record and
  Death Certificate. Both of which immensely improved  my process.
  This Sources and Citations   is so helpful and well worth the
  watch.  And I will stop thinking about how much work they are
  (sometimes).  Love the ability to print the source label.
  Just 1 question.  With the source title you do not precede the State
  with the country name yet you file documents in country folders.  Any
  reason why you do not put USA, England, Canada in the first position?
   Or do you enter if it is any other than the USA?
  Thank you Geoff and Michele.
  Regards
  Olwyn
 
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Dates on Event Sentences

2014-10-29 Thread Paula Ryburn
Michele,  This is a little disheartening, to have the event dates suddenly not 
be printing, after a minor update... Is there a list of the contents of the 
latest release?  Thx.  --P



 From: Michele/Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 6:39 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Dates on Event Sentences



Elise,
This is a known issue.  It has been entered into our bug tracking system and 
assigned to a programmer to be fixed.  The fix will appear in a future update 
but I can't tell you exactly when that will be.

Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.legacyfamilytree.com

From:sa...@attglobal.net [mailto:sa...@attglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:30 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Dates on Event Sentences

using Legacy 8 latest build

Hi, I was entering some events today when I noticed that Event Sentences were 
leaving out the dates even when the Event Sentence Definition includes dates. 
For example: The Event Sentence Description reads [firstname] [desc] [onDate] 
for “David was in school on 7 Jun 1900.”  The sentence I get is “David was in 
school on.” Sentences before today are ok. I’ve been using Legacy for about 8 
years now and have never seen this happen.  Any ideas?

Thanks, Elsie




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Re: [LegacyUG] Master source template for Wikipedia

2014-10-29 Thread Paula Ryburn
Have you tried using a Basic source?  They are old but flexible.
Also, it seems like I've had the collection name show up in quotes when using 
the generic online database template...?
--P



 From: Judy Dewey judy.de...@feltfamily.org
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 6:07 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master source template for Wikipedia



Which template in the Legacy SourceWriter do I use to create a master source 
for Wikipedia (or any other similar online book/resource)? I've tried the Book 
option but citing an article from Wikipedia is more like citing a chapter in a 
book. I can't find a template for that, either. The cite needs to be one where 
the author of the individual article is unknown.

According to Elizabeth Shown Mills, the cite should look like this:

Article title, Wikimedia Foundation, inc., Wikipedia (www.wikipedia.org : 
2014), specific item.

The only template I can find would require that I create a new master source 
for every article in Wikipedia that I use. That's not a workable solution. I 
would have many, many master sources. I want just one.

Thank you!

-Judy Dewey
Egin, Idaho

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Re: [LegacyUG] Long/Lat for stones

2014-10-29 Thread Paula Ryburn
Burial Notes?  That's where I would put things like section, row  plot #... 
GPS is just more precision.
--P



 From: Bruce Jones juicebo...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Long/Lat for stones



I only see two options:
Put the Lat/Long in a field other than the Location (description, notes)
If you want it in the Location field, then I think you need to create multiple 
locations for that cemetery.
Here are examples of locations in my database.

Salt Lake City-Cemetery (I.12.10), Salt Lake, Utah, USA

Salt Lake City-Cemetery (J.19.6), Salt Lake, Utah, USA


Hope this helps.


On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Jay Wilpolt jaywilp...@aol.com wrote:

How can I add in the Long/Lat for several
stones within the same Cemetery without creating a separate address
card for each one?

Under Burial Address
If I enter the first one as
Cemetery Name, City, State
and then in the Long/Lat enter a specific set of Long/Lat

Then when I come to add another stone at that same cemetery,
it overwrites the first entry (long/Lat Coordinates) ?

Just wondered how others were handling this.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Jay
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Re: [LegacyUG] Dates on Event Sentences

2014-10-29 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thanks, Michele.  I thought it was out there somewhere--I have the misfortune 
of not finding time to do genealogy these days, so I get out of touch quickly.  
--P



 From: Michele/Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Dates on Event Sentences



Paula,
You can see a list of the fixes here 
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory8.asp  A new list comes out with 
each update.

Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.legacyfamilytree.com

From:Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 11:19 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dates on Event Sentences

Michele,  This is a little disheartening, to have the event dates suddenly not 
be printing, after a minor update... Is there a list of the contents of the 
latest release?  Thx.  --P

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Re: [LegacyUG] Dates on Event Sentences

2014-10-29 Thread Paula Ryburn
Okay, so I can see how the cut media problem may have cropped up, but the not 
printing event dates (or maybe not saving event dates)...?  Doesn't look like 
anything having to do with events was changed.  hmm  The programmer in me is 
scratching her head. ;)
Thanks again for the link.  --P



 From: Michele/Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Dates on Event Sentences



Paula,
You can see a list of the fixes here 
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory8.asp  A new list comes out with 
each update.

Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.legacyfamilytree.com

From:Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 11:19 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dates on Event Sentences

Michele,  This is a little disheartening, to have the event dates suddenly not 
be printing, after a minor update... Is there a list of the contents of the 
latest release?  Thx.  --P

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Re: [LegacyUG] Dates on Event Sentences

2014-10-29 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thanks, Brian.  I think you mean, too, that it might not be new to the latest 
update.  I appreciate the clarification.  --P



 From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dates on Event Sentences


The date problem is restricted to custom sentences using the override
tab, dates are not included using the [date] or [ondate] fields there.

It does not affect the vast majority who use only the standard sentences
nor does it affect the saving of the dates in the database.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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On 29/10/2014 11:32 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
 Okay, so I can see how the cut media problem may have cropped up, but the 
 not printing event dates (or maybe not saving event dates)...?  Doesn't look 
 like anything having to do with events was changed.  hmm  The programmer in 
 me is scratching her head. ;)
 Thanks again for the link.  --P



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Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree chart

2014-10-11 Thread Paula Ryburn
Not sure why this changed.  Will try to remedy.  Rest assured that I don't want 
to have to squint either!  --P



 From: Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree chart



As of today we need to squint to see your posts.


On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:

I've seen this  I think I submitted a bug report on it a while ago--you might 
want to do so, too.
I mean, this happens with their default male  female silhouettes!
Also, per Geoff's instructions, I have been adding my individuals' photos the 
same size (and small)... I think he calls it their mug shot.  I do like to 
see the photos when I have them... helps with navigation a bit.  (tho colors 
are a bigger help)
--Paula




 From: Gene Odgen geneogden...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 10:53 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Pedigree chart


I find that the images that I have included are cutting off the first letter 
of each name on the Pedigree Chart. Is there anything that I can do to solve 
this problem? Thanks in advance.

Gene Ogden





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Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree chart

2014-10-11 Thread Paula Ryburn
Cathy,  Thank you for sharing that it works for you.  I went in today to take a 
look, and it worked for me, too... until I noticed that my ancestor colors were 
turned off.  I turned them back on and voila!  the problem has returned.  
Reporting now... ;)
--Paula



 From: Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree chart



O you mean on Pedigree View?
That's a known problem but I thought it was fixed. It is for me.
Are you using the latest version?
If so, put in a bug report giving the resolution of your monitor. It's not the 
size that makes the variations here but the resolution.

Cathy

Gene Odgen wrote:


I talking about looking at the computer monitor. I've got a 23
monitor and the pictures chop off the first letter of the first name
of the individual. Very frustrating.

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:59 AM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com
mailto:genea...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Gene,

I'm not seeing that - they do cut off the end of places sometimes.
That may be because I'm using A4 paper size and you may be using
  n
bsp; Letter.
You could try resetting the options to Legacy defaults and
choosing your options again but it's probably more worthwhile in
this case to play with the number of generations per page and
whether it is portrait or landscape - and other page options.

I don't find the pics helpful on a pedigree chart as they tend to
be wildly different sizes although most of the originals are the
same pixel size. The Ancestor chart does pics better.

Or are you talking about Legacy Charting?

Cathy


Gene Odgen wrote:



I find that the images that I have included are cutting off the
first
letter of each name on the Pedigree Chart. Is ther
e anything that I
can do to solve this problem? Thanks in advance.

Gene Ogden





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Re: [LegacyUG] Recording uncertain dates

2014-10-11 Thread Paula Ryburn
For those of us who enter the date range when we have it, now matter how wide, 
and then refine it as we gather more evidence, this sort of range looks just 
fine.  (You had previously said you don't enter anything until you have a firm 
date  then enter conflicting dates as alt. events.)  --P



 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Recording uncertain dates


To me that sounds like the birth took that long! Something like that
for a marriage might be appropriate if the person was married on the
first date and the marriage ended on the second date.

I would use between but neither is really correct since the event
didn't necessarily happen between those two dates. The quarter dates
are the quarter that the event was *registered* and the event may very
well have happened before that quarter it was registered!

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Re: [LegacyUG] How best to keep track

2014-10-11 Thread Paula Ryburn
Pat,  Are you just wanting to keep track of who you've blogged about?  And who 
you think would be a good candidate for future blog posts?  I would go with a 
blog event, private.  Add the event when you select the ancestor, add a date 
when you've blogged about them.  --P
(I'm not sure I followed the post here about date last did a full check... 
unless you are talking about tracking research...?)



 From: Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How best to keep track



Well, I suppose I didn't clarify -- is there a way within Legacy to keep track 
-- other than tagging.

Pat
snip
In line with Macaulay's famous quote  (A people which takes no pride in the 
noble achievements of remote ancestors will never achieve anything worthy to 
be remembered with pride by remote descendants.), I am thinking of doing an 
ongoing blog about interesting relatives for interested relatives.

Any ideas for an easy and organized way to go about -- and keep track -- of 
the results of my endeavors?

Thanks,

Pat

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Re: [LegacyUG] How to exclude notes and to do list when sending a file.

2014-10-11 Thread Paula Ryburn
Personally, I would use Legacy export rather than GEDCOM.  You could then open 
the exported db  delete the parts he doesn't want... maybe using LTools?  
Well, I would at least look into doing that.  I guess it depends on how much 
effort you've put into things that get lost in a GEDCOM, like sourcewriter 
citations.  --P



 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to exclude notes and to do list when sending a file.



Ann,

Normally you'd use the Legacy Export to export a selection of people to a new 
file, but that export includes all data in the file.

You'll need to do a gedcom export. In the Gedcom Export window, click on 
Customize and in the Groups of items to EXCLUDE from Export section, select 
the items you don't want to include.

On the main Gedcom Export window, click on Record Selection to select the Focus 
Group.

The only drawback is that sources will be imported in the Basic format, but all 
the source data should be there.





Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:53 AM, aparsons aparsons...@gmail.com wrote:

A cousin has lost his Legacy data. He asked me to send him one individual and 
the descendants. He does not want my general notes, research notes or to do 
list. He would like it sent on a flash drive or email. He uses Legacy and would 
like it in a format that he could import as he does not type very well.


I made a focus group of what he wants. But...it includes the notes  list. Is 
there some way I can send the info without the notes  to do list?


Is this possible? I would appreciate your suggestions.


Thank you,
Ann Parsons





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Re: [LegacyUG] Overcoming Destroyed or Missing Records - free webinar by Karen Clifford now online for limited time

2014-10-11 Thread Paula Ryburn
Yes, access for the remainder of today would be nice.  --Paula in Texas



 From: Debbie True dmt1...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Overcoming Destroyed or Missing Records - free webinar 
by Karen Clifford now online for limited time



Geoff,

I had the same issue as Ken. I, too, wanted to watch this seminar. As it states 
on the website, each webinar is free to view for 7 days after the live event. 
Thinking that the live event was the 3rd, I had until the 10th, which is today, 
to watch the episode. Sadly, it is now only available to subscribers. Possibly 
re-wording the availability will clear this up. I tend to watch the videos and 
then decide if this is something I wish to purchase.


Thanks for all you do,
Debbie



On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Geoff Rasmussen ge...@legacyusers.com wrote:

Ken,


Yes, I'll check to see what time it gets turned off and try to make it more 
clear.



Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
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On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:00 AM, Ken Veitch mistyblu...@bigpond.com wrote:

Dear Geoff,


This is not a big issue but more an annoying aspect for those that live 
outside the USA and often cannot (due to work) watch a Webinar live.  As such 
I normally watch the recorded video and if I find it worthwhile then I will 
purchase the CD.


Recently I have been very busy at work with late nights however I remained 
very keen to watch this Webinar by Karen Clifford.  Last night I checked 
Legacy and it advised me that this Webinar would be available till 10 October 
2014.


The time here now in Canberra Australia is 19:55 Eastern Australian Time 
Daylight Savings Time on 10 October 2014.


Rightly or wrongly I had assumed that the availability of this Webinar was 
based on USA time zones so I programmed to watch it tonight after I got back 
from work.


Lo-and-behold it is now not available to watch.


I would have thought that the Webinar would be available up until 23:59 on 10 
October 2014 USA Eastern or Western time.


At this moment Washington DC is 15 hours behind, Los Angeles is 18 hours 
behind Australia EADST so in my mind I had plenty of time to settle down 
after work and watch the Webinar.


I now believe that when you state that this Webinar was available up to 10 
October 2014 you actually mean that it is available up to 23:59 on 09 October 
2014.


Is this correct?  If so can you please be more precise when you intend to 
take it down the free access.


Thank you.


Ken





From:  Geoff Rasmussen ge...@legacyusers.com
Reply-To:  LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date:  Saturday, 4 October 2014 7:13 am
To:  LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject:  [LegacyUG] Overcoming Destroyed or Missing Records - free webinar 
by Karen Clifford now online for limited time



The recording of today's webinar, Overcoming Destroyed or Missing Records, 
by Karen Clifford is now online for free for a limited time at 
www.FamilyTreeWebinars.com. A few comments from our viewers:
  * I have renewed hope with some sources I never thought about. Thank 
 you.
  * Karen Clifford is always one of my favorites. She is skilled, 
 experienced, precise and always very helpful. She is the Queen of Genealogy. 
 I will listen to this one again, so I can get even more the second time.
  * Karen is excellent, speaker  presenter. Learned a lot that I had no 
 idea of. Thank you Legacy Family Tree Webinars and Karen Clifford for 
 another wonderful afternoon of learning.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Global Master Source Conversion

2014-10-11 Thread Paula Ryburn
So, you folks are saying that you're willing to export your entire database to 
a GEDCOM file to get rid of all your SourceWriter sources  citations?  (not 
delete, but convert)

Why do you want to get rid of them?  I mean, if the information in the citation 
is correct, leave them there, and use Basic sources exclusively as you move 
forward.  ?

Personally, I don't know enough about what other corners are being cut in a 
GEDCOM export.  The definition of GEDCOM is pretty old, and applications have 
moved forward, trying their best to map back into it.  (at least that's my 
perception)  I would be worried about what else I could lose in the process, 
and is it worth that risk to convert perfectly good SourceWriter citations?  
Right now, I am using a mixture.  There are now too many templates to choose 
from, so in many cases I use the Basic and just type in what the website said 
in its citation. ;)

(Pat, there's a program someone wrote that reads through the Legacy database 
and reformats all the information into the record definitions of GEDCOM (an 
industry standard), and another program that reads the records in a GEDCOM and 
reformats the information to load into the Legacy database.  A similar program 
would need to be written to convert things WITHIN the Legacy database, not 
using an intermediate GEDCOM file.  The GEDCOM was developed so various 
genealogy applications could talk to each other... really, it's less talking 
to than translating twice, once to GEDCOM and then into the next application.  
Wow, I got much longer winded on that than I meant to!)

And given their investment in SourceWriter, I don't think writing a conversion 
program to get rid of them is high on Millenia's list... they didn't write a 
conversion program to go from Basic to SourceWriter.  (not that I think it was 
possible to do that, just saying)
--Paula



 From: singhals singh...@erols.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Global Master Source Conversion


Oh, it can.  It's just labor-intensive and time-consuming.
GED does it faster and saves you irritation.

Cheryl


Pat Hickin wrote:
 I too would like to convert all my SW sources to Basic
 without going the .gedcom route.  If it can be done via
 .gedcom why can't it be done without .gedcom?

 I'd be happy if it would just take the Source List Name,
 and the Recorded Date and lump everything else together in
 Publication Facts. That would be easy enough to change.

 As it is, Legacy lumps it all together under the Output tab.

 If this is feasible, I'll make a suggestion to that effect.

 Pat

 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:00 PM, Sherry/Support
 she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 I'm sorry - got that backwards!  Creating a gedcom is
 the only way. You won't lose media links.

 The only thing that you lose with gedcom is the
 SourceWriter format (which you want) as well as History
 List and the Dates Added/Modified will all show the date
 you imported the gedcom and that the date was imported.
 If you don't rely on this field, it won't be a problem
 for you.  Some people don't even realize the info is there!

 The SourceWriter Conversion tool was original hoped to
 help us convert sources from Basic to SourceWriter, but
 the programmer quickly figured out it would take just as
 long to use the tool to convert the source as it would
 to do it without the tool!



 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree

 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Chick Lewis
 cglewi...@gmail.com mailto:cglewi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I want to convert from SourceWriter to Basic Not
 Basic to SourceWriter.
 Gedcom already does it globally.   There must be a
 way we can too.


 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Sherry/Support
 she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 There's no way to do a conversion to
 SourceWriter from Basic sources, other than
 manually.

 You can find some help with the conversion in
 our Knowledge Base at
 
 http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00412/14/Tips-and-How-Tos/Where-is-the-Source-Conversion-tool.html



 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree

 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Chick Lewis
 cglewi...@gmail.com
 mailto:cglewi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a mixture of Basic and Sourcewriter
 sources.  Since gedcom-ing SW sources
 results in them being converted to Basic
 sources,  Is there a way to do a global
 conversion of all my SW sources to Basic
 sources without having to 

Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree chart

2014-10-11 Thread Paula Ryburn
David, I was unaware I was sending an HTML format email.  I will check that, 
too, and see what Yahoo has done to me with its latest version.



 From: David Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 3:12 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pedigree chart



If you were to use a Plain Text email as requested by the Mail list, you would 
not be having this problem.

You have somehow changed the font size to be 7.5 using a HTML type of email.

Thanks,
David C Abernathy
Email disclaimers

This message represents the official view of the voices in my head.

http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com
== All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  ==

From:Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 12:58 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree chart

Not sure why this changed.  Will try to remedy.  Rest assured that I don't want 
to have to squint either!  --P




From:Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree chart

As of today we need to squint to see your posts.

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:
I've seen this  I think I submitted a bug report on it a while ago--you might 
want to do so, too.
I mean, this happens with their default male  female silhouettes!
Also, per Geoff's instructions, I have been adding my individuals' photos the 
same size (and small)... I think he calls it their mug shot.  I do like to 
see the photos when I have them... helps with navigation a bit.  (tho colors 
are a bigger help)
--Paula
snip


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Re: [LegacyUG] Overcoming Destroyed or Missing Records - free webinar by Karen Clifford now online for limited time

2014-10-11 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thanks, Ron--obviously I have been way too busy of late!  Sorry about that.



 From: Ron Bernier ronaldbern...@outlook.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Overcoming Destroyed or Missing Records - free webinar 
by Karen Clifford now online for limited time



Paula,

Today is the 11th - access until the 10th would have ended yesterday, 
regardless of the time

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 11, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


Yes, access for the remainder of today would be nice.  --Paula in Texas




 From: Debbie True dmt1...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Overcoming Destroyed or Missing Records - free webinar 
by Karen Clifford now online for limited time



Geoff,

I had the same issue as Ken. I, too, wanted to watch this seminar. As it 
states on the website, each webinar is free to view for 7 days after the live 
event. Thinking that the live event was the 3rd, I had until the 10th, which 
is today, to watch the episode. Sadly, it is now only available to 
subscribers. Possibly re-wording the availability will clear this up. I tend 
to watch the videos and then decide if this is something I wish to purchase.


Thanks for all you do,
Debbie



On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Geoff Rasmussen ge...@legacyusers.com wrote:

Ken,


Yes, I'll check to see what time it gets turned off and try to make it more 
clear.



Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:00 AM, Ken Veitch mistyblu...@bigpond.com wrote:

Dear Geoff,


This is not a big issue but more an annoying aspect for those that live 
outside the USA and often cannot (due to work) watch a Webinar live.  As 
such I normally watch the recorded video and if I find it worthwhile then I 
will purchase the CD.


Recently I have been very busy at work with late nights however I remained 
very keen to watch this Webinar by Karen Clifford.  Last night I checked 
Legacy and it advised me that this Webinar would be available till 10 
October 2014.


The time here now in Canberra Australia is 19:55 Eastern Australian Time 
Daylight Savings Time on 10 October 2014.


Rightly or wrongly I had assumed that the availability of this Webinar was 
based on USA time zones so I programmed to watch it tonight after I got back 
from work.


Lo-and-behold it is now not available to watch.


I would have thought that the Webinar would be available up until 23:59 on 
10 October 2014 USA Eastern or Western time.


At this moment Washington DC is 15 hours behind, Los Angeles is 18 hours 
behind Australia EADST so in my mind I had plenty of time to settle down 
after work and watch the Webinar.


I now believe that when you state that this Webinar was available up to 10 
October 2014 you actually mean that it is available up to 23:59 on 09 
October 2014.


Is this correct?  If so can you please be more precise when you intend to 
take it down the free access.


Thank you.


Ken





From:  Geoff Rasmussen ge...@legacyusers.com
Reply-To:  LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com 
LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date:  Saturday, 4 October 2014 7:13 am
To:  LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject:  [LegacyUG] Overcoming Destroyed or Missing Records - free webinar 
by Karen Clifford now online for limited time



The recording of today's webinar, Overcoming Destroyed or Missing Records, 
by Karen Clifford is now online for free for a limited time at 
www.FamilyTreeWebinars.com. A few comments from our viewers:
 * I have renewed hope with some sources I never thought about. Thank 
 you.
 * Karen Clifford is always one of my favorites. She is skilled, 
 experienced, precise and always very helpful. She is the Queen of 
 Genealogy. I will listen to this one again, so I can get even more the 
 second time.
 * Karen is excellent, speaker  presenter. Learned a lot that I had no 
 idea of. Thank you Legacy Family Tree Webinars and Karen Clifford for 
 another wonderful afternoon of learning.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Jewish patronymic

2014-10-11 Thread Paula Ryburn
Jennifer, I don't know enough about Hebrew patronymic names to make a 
suggestion.  There's not a field for them, but if you share some details or 
examples, maybe we can make suggestions.  --Paula



 From: Jennifer Crockett jcrock...@optusnet.com.au
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 8:06 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Jewish patronymic


I have a small branch in my tree where a second cousin married a Jewish man.
I have been researching this family for my cousin and have now come across
records which give the Hebrew patronymic names. Where should I enter those
in Legacy?

Regards,

Jennifer
http://colston-wenck.com


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Re: [LegacyUG] digest mode option

2014-09-30 Thread Paula Ryburn
Kathleen, I have a filter set in my webmail (Yahoo) to send all 
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com emails and any with [LegacyUG] in subject to 
a separate online folder, to keep them out of my inbox  off my computer.  I 
read them periodically--can sort on Subject and/or just delete the subjects 
that I'm not interested in (e.g., GED exports or other features I don't use) 
and read the rest... or read the first in the thread  if not interested, 
delete them all.  Sometimes the number of emails in the thread piques my 
interest, but sometimes that just means the thread has gone off topic. ;)  
--Paula



 From: Kathleen Lenihan kathleen1leni...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 11:48 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] digest mode option



Hi,

I'm a TMG refugee looking for a new home, and recently joined the
  Legacy user group.  Instead of getting individual messages, is a
  digest mode an option?

Kathleen


On 9/22/2014 12:14 PM, Jeff wrote:

I am creating a descendancy Report in legacy 7.5 which I intend to
incorporate into a MS Word document and have 2 problems I need help with. 1. 
Because the report runs several pages, if an individual has a second
spouse that appears on a subsequent page of the report, the spouse's entry
appears as NAME (see other spouse name on page #) Because this report will be 
incorporated into a larger word document the
page # in
 (see other spouse name on page #) 
does not correspond to the page number in the Word document. Is there an option 
to prevent legacy from including (see other spouse name
on page #) in the report? 2. The second problem is related.
Because the report is destined to be included in a much larger Word
document, and I don't own a pdf editor, is there some way to produce the
same report in editable form rather than pdf. So I can change some things
about it, including colored text to highlight the direct line? Jeff Legacy User 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative book report. Chronology report

2014-09-30 Thread Paula Ryburn
As a developer, what disappoints me is to see a bug where the births after 
2000 doesn't work at all.  Wasn't that on the test plan?  Did no one look at 
all of the new statistics  make sure each one was calculating correctly?  I 
think Legacy is a product worthy of better testing.  Stepping down off 
soapbox...



 From: MikeFry emjay...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative book report. Chronology report


On 27 Sep 2014 06:11, CE WOOD wrote:

 So true, but try convincing them that they erred! That's why there are so
 many posts here.

As a user, I can sympathise with that. But, as a developer I also see the other
side of things.

Users who are sometimes unable to phrase a problem in terms that the developer
can understand. Descriptions of what the user perceives as the problem rather
than the actual problem. users who seem incapable of following instructions
designed ti elicit further information about their problem.

It's not easy sometimes trying to read users' minds.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry (Jhb)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree chart

2014-09-30 Thread Paula Ryburn
I've seen this  I think I submitted a bug report on it a while ago--you might 
want to do so, too.
I mean, this happens with their default male  female silhouettes!
Also, per Geoff's instructions, I have been adding my individuals' photos the 
same size (and small)... I think he calls it their mug shot.  I do like to 
see the photos when I have them... helps with navigation a bit.  (tho colors 
are a bigger help)
--Paula



 From: Gene Odgen geneogden...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 10:53 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Pedigree chart



I find that the images that I have included are cutting off the first letter of 
each name on the Pedigree Chart. Is there anything that I can do to solve this 
problem? Thanks in advance.

Gene Ogden


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Re: [LegacyUG] Shifting Sources

2014-09-18 Thread Paula Ryburn
I usually have the collection as the source and then use the internet source 
template (I think) to show the website, but I never use a link to the page or 
image (even when familysearch or ancestry includes it in their suggested 
citation).  The only exception I have right now is Find-A-Grave - the source is 
the website.  --P



 From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:29 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Shifting Sources


Well, it's not actually the Sources which have shifted, but the names of
Collections change and/or Search methods change and I'm wondering how
other LUGgers handle this.

Here's an example which illustrates exactly what I mean.  In the Good
Old Days when searching FindMyPast for a marriage in the English county
of Cheshire one could select Parish Records from a a menu, then select
the tab for Marriages and then enter the search parameters.

I set up a SourceWriter Source (using the template for Church Record
Books created at local level, online images) called Parish Registers -
FMP.  I put the website details into the Master Source and entered
Parish Records Collection in the Collection field.  The name of the
specific Church and its location and whether the record is from PRs or
BTs and whether a Baptism, Marriage or Burial, I included in the Source
Detail.

Now the FindMyPast site has been completely re-vamped and the easiest
and quickest way to find a marriage in Cheshire is to use the All
Records list to select either Diocese of Chester Parish Registers of
Marriages or Diocese of Chester Bishhop's Transcripts of Marriages.
There is no longer a facility to search Parish Records generally.

So, the question is this:  would you continue to use the Parish
Registers - FMP template and have any following-on researcher muddle
through to find the same record which I did,  or would you set up a new
Master Source for the specific Collection (and corresponding new Sources
for the Baptism and Burials Collections, PRs and BTs in each case and
for each County)?  And supposing you create a new set of Master Sources,
would you update all your old citations to the new Sources or leave them
as they are?

I think I know what Elizabeth Shown Mills would say, but I am not asking
what is RIGHT, but what do most people actually do?!

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Suggested Improvements to Chronology View in Legacy Version 8 Deluxe Edition

2014-09-09 Thread Paula Ryburn
I agree with CE!



 From: CE WOOD wood...@msn.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Suggested Improvements to Chronology View in Legacy 
Version 8 Deluxe Edition




What a tremendous amount of effort and attention to detail! Please submit all 
the suggestions, which are excellent and programmable even in the outdated 
system.

I sincerely hope you continue this endeavor!


CE




From: alanthomp...@grapevine.com.au
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Suggested Improvements to Chronology View in Legacy Version 
8 Deluxe Edition
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 15:04:56 +1000


Greetings

I am currently reviewing the Chronology Tab in Legacy Version 8.0.0.439 Deluxe 
Edition and seek feedback on some suggested improvements I have, prior to 
submitting them:

1.   (this probably should be classed as a bug) In the text displayed in 
the Info column for son and daughters birth events, the text specifying the 
parents of the child should include a space on either side of the “and” ie it 
currently displays, for example,  “son of Thomas NorrisandJane Lambert.” Rather 
than “son of Thomas Norris and Jane Lambert.” (both Report Style and List Style 
and the Report itself)

2.   In the Event column, the event labels “Son Born” and Daughter born” 
should be changed to “Birth of Son” and “Birth of Daughter” to be consistent 
with other “Birth of…” event labels (both Report Style and List Style and the 
Report itself)

3.   In the Event column, the event label “Death of Child” should be 
changed to “Death of Son” or “Death of Daughter” as appropriate to be 
consistent with separate identification of Son and daughter birth event labels 
(both Report Style and List Style and the Report itself)

4.   I would like the option to include the Events “Marriage of Son” and 
“Marriage of Daughter” in the Chronology view (both Report Style and List Style 
and the Report itself)

5.   (this probably should be classed as a bug) In the “Display Options…” 
dialogue screen, “Include” tab, “Marriage Events” Section, the check box “Death 
of Husband” should be relabelled “Death of Spouse”

6.   The order of columns should, as a minimum, be made consistent between 
Report Style and List Style Views (currently event and date columns are swapped 
around between views). Ideally, the ability for the user to select their own 
preferred Column order would be best, but short of that, I think the following 
order the next best solution: “Date” “Age” “Event” “Info” (both Report Style 
and List Style and the Report itself)

7.   In the Age column, the displayed age should be Right Justified (both 
Report Style and List Style and the Report itself)

8.   In the Date column, when the “Display dates with year first” checkbox 
is “Unchecked”, the displayed date should be Right Justified so that the years 
of all events align to maximum extent possible (both Report Style and List 
Style and the Report itself)

9.   I would prefer the tilde “~” character to be removed from the 
calculated ages in the Age Columns (both Report Style and List Style and the 
Report itself). That the age may be an approximation based on a calculation can 
be implied from the dates recorded and hence the ~ is somewhat redundant.

10.   Include the ability to select a specific event displayed within the 
Chronology view and then open the “Edit Event” dialog box. After viewing 
editing the event and closing the “Edit Event” dialog, the user would return to 
an updated Chronology View (List Style only) (This functionality would be 
similar to that available in the Timeline section of the Overview tab on 
ancestry.com, which I like.)

11.   Include the ability to select a specific event displayed within the 
Chronology view and then open the “Assigned Sources” dialog box to display the 
assigned sources for the selected event. After viewing or editing the assigned 
sources and closing the “Assigned Sources” dialog, the user would return to the 
Chronology View (List Style only) (This functionality would be similar to that 
available in the Timeline section of the Overview tab on ancestry.com, which I 
like.)

For your consideration

Cheers
Alan Thompson

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Re: [LegacyUG] Suggested Improvements to Chronology View in Legacy Version 8 Deluxe Edition

2014-09-09 Thread Paula Ryburn
Enter 2-8 as bugs.
Enter 9-11 as suggestions.
I would lump together those that deal with the same column.
I would also somehow state in each bug/suggestion that you want the Chronology 
View  Chronology Report to work the same way--or is that what you mean by and 
the Report itself?
Just my additional 2 cents. ;)
Thanks for doing all of this on our behalf.
--Paula


 From: Alan Thompson alanthomp...@grapevine.com.au
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 12:04 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Suggested Improvements to Chronology View in Legacy Version 
8 Deluxe Edition



Greetings

I am currently reviewing the Chronology Tab in Legacy Version 8.0.0.439 Deluxe 
Edition and seek feedback on some suggested improvements I have, prior to 
submitting them:

1.   (this probably should be classed as a bug) In the text displayed in 
the Info column for son and daughters birth events, the text specifying the 
parents of the child should include a space on either side of the “and” ie it 
currently displays, for example,  “son of Thomas NorrisandJane Lambert.” Rather 
than “son of Thomas Norris and Jane Lambert.” (both Report Style and List Style 
and the Report itself)

2.   In the Event column, the event labels “Son Born” and Daughter born” 
should be changed to “Birth of Son” and “Birth of Daughter” to be consistent 
with other “Birth of…” event labels (both Report Style and List Style and the 
Report itself)

3.   In the Event column, the event label “Death of Child” should be 
changed to “Death of Son” or “Death of Daughter” as appropriate to be 
consistent with separate identification of Son and daughter birth event labels 
(both Report Style and List Style and the Report itself)

4.   I would like the option to include the Events “Marriage of Son” and 
“Marriage of Daughter” in the Chronology view (both Report Style and List Style 
and the Report itself)

5.   (this probably should be classed as a bug) In the “Display Options…” 
dialogue screen, “Include” tab, “Marriage Events” Section, the check box “Death 
of Husband” should be relabelled “Death of Spouse”

6.   The order of columns should, as a minimum, be made consistent between 
Report Style and List Style Views (currently event and date columns are swapped 
around between views). Ideally, the ability for the user to select their own 
preferred Column order would be best, but short of that, I think the following 
order the next best solution: “Date” “Age” “Event” “Info” (both Report Style 
and List Style and the Report itself)

7.   In the Age column, the displayed age should be Right Justified (both 
Report Style and List Style and the Report itself)

8.   In the Date column, when the “Display dates with year first” checkbox 
is “Unchecked”, the displayed date should be Right Justified so that the years 
of all events align to maximum extent possible (both Report Style and List 
Style and the Report itself)

9.   I would prefer the tilde “~” character to be removed from the 
calculated ages in the Age Columns (both Report Style and List Style and the 
Report itself). That the age may be an approximation based on a calculation can 
be implied from the dates recorded and hence the ~ is somewhat redundant.

10.   Include the ability to select a specific event displayed within the 
Chronology view and then open the “Edit Event” dialog box. After viewing 
editing the event and closing the “Edit Event” dialog, the user would return to 
an updated Chronology View (List Style only) (This functionality would be 
similar to that available in the Timeline section of the Overview tab on 
ancestry.com, which I like.)

11.   Include the ability to select a specific event displayed within the 
Chronology view and then open the “Assigned Sources” dialog box to display the 
assigned sources for the selected event. After viewing or editing the assigned 
sources and closing the “Assigned Sources” dialog, the user would return to the 
Chronology View (List Style only) (This functionality would be similar to that 
available in the Timeline section of the Overview tab on ancestry.com, which I 
like.)

For your consideration

Cheers
Alan Thompson


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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship indicators in reports

2014-09-09 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thanks for this one!  I had been searching for a way to find all my 2nd 
cousins.  Create CSV, sort  voila!  Thanks again!  --Paula



 From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship indicators in reports


Most of the replies suggest the relationship Calculator and the chart
style report available from that tool. If you want to see how everyone
in the database is related to the home person there is the relationships
report.

That includes everyone who is related to the home person with their
connection to him/her. It includes spouses of blood relations but not
the non-blood relationships like father of wife of great uncle or
sister-in-law's brother.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 08 Sep 2014 9:45 AM, Kathy Meyer wrote:
 Are there any charts or reports that will indicate the relationship to the
 home person or even better, the relationship to a chosen person from the
 database?  I know the descendant report will highlight/bold the direct line
 ancestors but that doesn't tell their actual relationship (6th gr
 grandparent etc).

 I usually send a pedigree chart to a new contact I've found so they can see
 that we are related to the same family branch.  I would also love to send
 reports to cousins and show them how they are related etc.
   Non-genealogists prefer something more simple and direct that can be
 understood easily.  I think those relationship indicators are perfect for
 that if they would print.

 Thanks!  Kathy Meyer
 Orem Utah



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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report

2014-09-09 Thread Paula Ryburn
There are a couple of options just above Use list style formatting--Number 
each event or bullet point each event.  Does that help?  Or were you liking 
having the dates all in a column?  --Paula



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Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report



When I printed a Family Group report using Legacy 7.5 I selected Use List 
Style formatting and each event printed with an event number, event name, 
date, and location in a table(1 row, 5 columns) with the event notes directly 
below.

When I printed a Family Group report (for the above individual) using Legacy 8 
I also selected Use List Style formatting and each event printed in a free 
form text format.  This makes it difficult to see each unique event when you 
have several events for an individual.

I obviously have set an  option set incorrectly.  Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Glenn Kinkade


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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report

2014-09-09 Thread Paula Ryburn
Wait.  When I select Use list style formatting each event is numbered and 
separated from the next by a horizontal line.  Not free form, but per the event 
sentence.  It must be having the years (e.g.) in a column that you want--and 
they have taken that away from us.  I'll bet it was so they could standardize 
always printing event notes  sources.  (I'm still wondering who requested that 
 why.)
Bottom line, list style is the same as event sentence style with the 
numbered option selected.  Hmm...  Or maybe I'm not reading my sentences 
closely enough to see a difference?
--P



 From: Glenn Kinkade glennkink...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 8:23 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report



When I printed a Family Group report using Legacy 7.5 I selected Use List 
Style formatting and each event printed with an event number, event name, 
date, and location in a table(1 row, 5 columns) with the event notes directly 
below.

When I printed a Family Group report (for the above individual) using Legacy 8 
I also selected Use List Style formatting and each event printed in a free 
form text format.  This makes it difficult to see each unique event when you 
have several events for an individual.

I obviously have set an  option set incorrectly.  Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Glenn Kinkade


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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname location map

2014-09-07 Thread Paula Ryburn
Oh, I see.  Thanks!



 From: Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com
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Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surname location map



I don't know of a way to produce it in Legacy.


Ancestry shows it (free) for the US and also for Britain, e.g.:

http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=prickett


Pat




On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:

Pat, Is this map something (an image) you find online?  Or is there a way to 
produce the map in Legacy?  Sounds really interesting.  --Paula




 From: Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com
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Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:09 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Surname location map



One of the things I like to include in descendant reports is a map showing the 
locations of the __ surname at the present time.


I've been attaching it as an event to the earliest ancestor of that name -- or 
sometimes I may use it as an illustration on the title page.


I'm wondering if anyone else does this and, if so, how you handle it.


Thanks,
Pat





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Re: [LegacyUG] Problems with Multiple Descendants Report

2014-09-07 Thread Paula Ryburn
Pat, I could not reproduce these problems.  I could enter 884,566 (I don't 
have marriages 1884  6566) and it produced a report (a very short one... these 
aren't in my direct lines).  Further, the Last Report (which I only have on 
My Toolbar took me right back to the Multiple Lines of Descent report.

Were you operating inside the Publishing Center, maybe?
--Paula



 From: Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 9:29 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Problems with Multiple Descendants Report



I am having a problem with a multiple descendants  report -- I keep telling it 
to give me MRINs 1884 ,6566 and instead it keeps giving me a report for 2568 
and 6566.


In case it matters, the husband in 2568 is a direct descendant of the husband 
in 1884.


What do I need to do to get what I ask for?


Also, when I click on Last Report I keep getting Individual Report instead 
of a multiple descendants  report.


What do I need to do to get  a multiple descendants  report when it is the 
last report and I have clicked on last report?

Thanks,


Pat


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting by date of birth

2014-09-07 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thanks, Cheryl, for the formatting suggestions.  Unfortunately, I have dates 
from before 1900 and after 1900, and one cell format works for the former  not 
the latter, while another works for the latter  not the former.  And I don't 
want to re-export  import it all.  Disappointing, but will work with what I 
have now  test a few things before I do it again... if I remember the Excel 
glitch by that time.  Short memory these days. ;)
--Paula



 From: singhals singh...@erols.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting by date of birth


Birth year is in a separate column; mark it in the
spreadsheet with a ' in front to the machine thinks it's an
alpha-num field not a date field.  Or, highlight the whole
column and format it as numeric, not date.  At least, both
those work on my version of Xcel for me.

Cheryl

Paula Ryburn wrote:
 Hey, Pat, I wanted to share with you what I just
 re-discovered about Excel: It can't handle dates earlier
 than 1900. I knew this, but had forgotten! I was doing just
 what I suggested you do, and I ran into all sorts of date
 format issues in Excel. *sigh* You'd think they could fix
 that, but no. So, I'm guessing sorting your whole database
 by birth DATE could get a bit messy in Excel. Or maybe there
 is a way to set your date format parameter in Legacy before
 you export that would put the dates in the integer format in
 the CSV file...? I may have just crossed over my techie
 limit line. --Paula

 
 *From:* Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, August 28, 2014 8:05 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting by date of birth

 Pat, What are you trying to discover or do? Would printing a
 birthday list help? It's called the Calendar Creator now,
 under Other Reports.
 Otherwise, the export to .csv and import into Excel is the
 route I would take. --Paula



 
 *From:* Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, August 24, 2014 7:45 PM
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Sorting by date of birth


 Is there any way to sort the entire database by, e.g., date
 of birth??

 Thanks,
 Pat




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[LegacyUG] Location list question

2014-08-30 Thread Paula Ryburn
I did look this up in Help.
I will submit a suggestion that the following two paragraphs in the Master 
Locations List help, say when the Show People box is checked and when the 
Show Map box is checked - it did take me more than one click in Help from the 
Master Location List window to find these... I was looking near the end, since 
they are the last two things in the window.

To the right of the list of locations is the People using this
location box.  The box shows which individual in your family file are using
the currently highlighted location.  (If multiple locations are selected use 
Options  Show List to show all the people using the selected
group of locations.)

Below the list of locations is a map of the current location.  To see
the map you must have Internet access and be online.  See Master
Location Mappingfor complete information on
how to view, navigate, and print the maps.

Anyway, when I went to Master Location Mapping, I found my answer... sort of.  
It says
Whenever the Master Location List screen is
displayed, the current location in the list is shown on a map in the lower half
of the window.  (Unless you have the Show Map option unchecked or you are
not connected to the Internet.)


I do have Show Map checked and I am connected to the internet (I'm sending this 
email).

Any suggestions on what I should look for or do to see the map?  Do I have to 
have Bing installed on my computer??  Do I have to have the Geo Code database 
installed???
Thanks in advance,
--Paula in Texas


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting by date of birth

2014-08-30 Thread Paula Ryburn
Hey, Pat, I wanted to share with you what I just re-discovered about Excel:  It 
can't handle dates earlier than 1900.  I knew this, but had forgotten!  I was 
doing just what I suggested you do, and I ran into all sorts of date format 
issues in Excel. *sigh*  You'd think they could fix that, but no.  So, I'm 
guessing sorting your whole database by birth DATE could get a bit messy in 
Excel.  Or maybe there is a way to set your date format parameter in Legacy 
before you export that would put the dates in the integer format in the CSV 
file...?  I may have just crossed over my techie limit line.  --Paula



 From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting by date of birth



Pat, What are you trying to discover or do?  Would printing a birthday list 
help?  It's called the Calendar Creator now, under Other Reports.
Otherwise, the export to .csv and import into Excel is the route I would take.  
--Paula






 From: Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 7:45 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sorting by date of birth





Is there any way to sort the entire database by, e.g., date of birth??

Thanks,
Pat





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Re: [LegacyUG] Focus Group

2014-08-30 Thread Paula Ryburn
Well, this a great little thread, because it made me read all of the Help on 
Focus Groups.  We can have up to 9 Focus Groups (or Focus Group Lists).  I 
hadn't noticed the Save and Load before--perfect!   (I will say there is 
sometimes a disconnect between View / List Focus Group and Edit Focus Group 
in the Help file vs. in the windows.)

I still have one question, though, because I think it's true but I didn't see 
it in the Help description.
If I have a Focus Group defined with the Add an Individual and Ancestors, 
when I add a new Individual to my database that is a new ancestor for the 
person at the root of my Focus Group, will that new Individual (ancestor) 
automatically be part of the Focus Group when I use it to report or export?
I think the answer is yes, because I remember now thinking this is so much 
better than tagging all my daughter's direct line ancestors and having to 
remember to tag them as I add new ones or to reset the tags before I export, 
etc.
Thanks,
--Paula in Texas.



 From: Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Focus Group


Pat

The instructions aren't quite accurate.
At step 2 where you choose the radio button for Selected Records
Contained in the Focus Group you'll see a big button under that line
EDIT FOCUS GROUP
How did you miss it?

Cathy

Pat Hickin mailto:pph...@gmail.com
 Saturday, 30 August 2014 8:55 AM
 I am trying to generate a focus group that will be the basis for a
 .gedcom doe a relative.

 In Leg 8 Help  Focus Groups, I am told

 The /Focus Group/ window can be reached from several locations.

 1. From the /Export/ window, click *
 *

 *[1] Record Selection*, choose the

 [2] *Selected Records Contained in the Focus Group *option, and then
 click *
 *

 *[3] View / Set Focus Group*.


 But after I choose step [2], I don't /_get _/the step [3] option.


 Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong??


 Thanks,

 Pat




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Re: [LegacyUG] Media - Source vs Citation

2014-08-30 Thread Paula Ryburn
Regarding census images, I have chosen to set up my Master sources for US 
censuses at the county level, and I attach the images from all the ED's or 
towns in that county to the same Master source.  Besides keeping the number of 
Master sources down, I've found that in many cases, I have more than one family 
(direct line and collateral) on the same page, so it's nice to see what all 
images (pages) I already have for the county.  And you can see the image for 
any individual when you have their source citations window open (you don't lose 
that visibility by putting the image on the Master source instead of Detail 
citation).  --Paula



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To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Media - Source vs Citation


Ron,

A lot of it depends on how you use Master Sources and Details. I
follow Geoff's method...

Here are some ways I'd attach pictures of various sources:

Book - cover, copyright page, forward, etc would go with the Master Source
Pages from the info that you're citing detail on would go with the
detail. This would apply to genealogy histories, transcriptions
(cemetery record abstracts), etc.

Census - I put the enumeration page with the detail. I can't think of
anything images from a census that would be associated with the Master
Source.

Website - info about the website (home page, etc) with the Master
Source. Screen shot of the page with the data on the citation.

Think of attaching pictures to a Master Source if the pictures apply
to the source in general.

If the picture applies to the detail you're abstracting, then the
picture would go with the detail.

Sounds to me like you've been doing it the way I would!

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Ron Bernier ronaldbern...@outlook.com wrote:
 When adding media to a sourced event, what is the consensus regarding whether 
 to add the media to the source or to the citation.

 i.e. I create an occupation event based on the 1880 census.  I attach a copy 
 of the census image.  It has been my practice to attach the image to the 
 citation, but now I am rethinking my practice and wondering if it would be 
 better/more correct to attach the image to the source.

 Ron Bernier
 Sent from my iPad



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Re: [LegacyUG] Location list question

2014-08-30 Thread Paula Ryburn
Dang, Sherry--you're good! ;)
Thanks!



 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location list question


After clicking on the Show Map, you have to close and reopen the
Master Location List for it to show.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
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On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Paula Ryburn
paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 I did look this up in Help.
 I will submit a suggestion that the following two paragraphs in the Master
 Locations List help, say when the Show People box is checked and when
 the Show Map box is checked - it did take me more than one click in Help
 from the Master Location List window to find these... I was looking near the
 end, since they are the last two things in the window.

 To the right of the list of locations is the People using this location box.
 The box shows which individual in your family file are using the currently
 highlighted location.  (If multiple locations are selected use Options 
 Show List to show all the people using the selected group of locations.)

 Below the list of locations is a map of the current location.  To see the
 map you must have Internet access and be online.  See Master Location
 Mapping for complete information on how to view, navigate, and print the
 maps.

 Anyway, when I went to Master Location Mapping, I found my answer... sort
 of.  It says
 Whenever the Master Location List screen is displayed, the current location
 in the list is shown on a map in the lower half of the window.  (Unless you
 have the Show Map option unchecked or you are not connected to the
 Internet.)

 I do have Show Map checked and I am connected to the internet (I'm sending
 this email).

 Any suggestions on what I should look for or do to see the map?  Do I have
 to have Bing installed on my computer??  Do I have to have the Geo Code
 database installed???
 Thanks in advance,
 --Paula in Texas



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting by date of birth

2014-08-30 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thanks, Richard.  I'm wrestling with a spreadsheet that I've used to track what 
documents are missing for my direct line ancestors.  Might just need to break 
down and take a closer look at LTools--I'm a few releases behind.  --Paula



 From: Richard Van Wasshnova rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting by date of birth



Forget Excel. MS Access and ltools sort dates perfectly. No query needed, Just 
sott on tblIR.birthsd.

--
Richard Van Wasshnova


On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:

Hey, Pat, I wanted to share with you what I just re-discovered about Excel:  It 
can't handle dates earlier than 1900.  I knew this, but had forgotten!  I was 
doing just what I suggested you do, and I ran into all sorts of date format 
issues in Excel. *sigh*  You'd think they could fix that, but no.  So, I'm 
guessing sorting your whole database by birth DATE could get a bit messy in 
Excel.  Or maybe there is a way to set your date format parameter in Legacy 
before you export that would put the dates in the integer format in the CSV 
file...?  I may have just crossed over my techie limit line.  --Paula




 From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting by date of birth



Pat, What are you trying to discover or do?  Would printing a birthday list 
help?  It's called the Calendar Creator now, under Other Reports.
Otherwise, the export to .csv and import into Excel is the route I would take. 
 --Paula







 From: Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 7:45 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sorting by date of birth





Is there any way to sort the entire database by, e.g., date of birth??


Thanks,
Pat


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting by date of birth

2014-08-28 Thread Paula Ryburn
Pat, What are you trying to discover or do?  Would printing a birthday list 
help?  It's called the Calendar Creator now, under Other Reports.
Otherwise, the export to .csv and import into Excel is the route I would take.  
--Paula



 From: Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 7:45 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sorting by date of birth





Is there any way to sort the entire database by, e.g., date of birth??

Thanks,
Pat


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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname location map

2014-08-28 Thread Paula Ryburn
Pat, Is this map something (an image) you find online?  Or is there a way to 
produce the map in Legacy?  Sounds really interesting.  --Paula



 From: Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:09 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Surname location map



One of the things I like to include in descendant reports is a map showing the 
locations of the __ surname at the present time.

I've been attaching it as an event to the earliest ancestor of that name -- or 
sometimes I may use it as an illustration on the title page.

I'm wondering if anyone else does this and, if so, how you handle it.

Thanks,
Pat


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[LegacyUG] MRIN on Family View

2014-08-24 Thread Paula Ryburn
I've turned on the RIN's on pedigree  family view, but I don't see MRIN's on 
family view.
I looked around in Customize near where I turned on the RIN's.
I've looked in Help for MRIN, Display, and Family View.
Can anyone help me with this?
I don't remember if I could see MRIN's in family view in v7 or not.

**Now, as I type this, I remember the bar across the bottom.
Still, is there not a way to turn them on for the family view?
Thanks,
--Paula



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[LegacyUG] Search List Report Options

2014-08-23 Thread Paula Ryburn
I was able to search on Burial Notes not equal to blank, but I cannot then 
print the Burial Notes for the Search List.  Am I missing something?  Thanks in 
advance.
--Paula in Texas


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Re: [LegacyUG] Register for Webinar Wednesday - Find A Grave: the World's Largest Cemetery Database by Russ Worthington

2014-08-23 Thread Paula Ryburn
You can search country  state  town for cemeteries.  Although I usually guess 
which route will end up with a longer list. ha!  --Paula



 From: CE WOOD wood...@msn.com
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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 1:19 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Register for Webinar Wednesday - Find A Grave: the 
World's Largest Cemetery Database by Russ Worthington




Find A Grave is very problematic. Just for starters:
 
Some contributors refuse to make changes even when supplied with primary 
documentary evidence.
 
Many people are linked inaccurately.
 
Many are listed as buried in the wrong cemetery.
 
Too many birth and death dates and places are wrong.
 
Too many cemeteries are wrong - some people buried in churches not built until 
years after their deaths.
 
Some contributors use maiden names and arcane spellings for names. An index 
using alternate names is MUCH NEEDED.
 
Cemeteries cannot be search by town, only by name, so you have to slog through 
20 or 30 pages of St. Mary's, paying close attention to the unalphabetized 
locations.
 
Because of the lack of alternate names and difficulty of searching for a 
cemetery, there are scads of duplicates - most with conflicting data.
 
 
Find A grave COULD be great, but they grew too fast and do not have programmers 
who are able to make it more useful.
 
Such a shame! 


CE
 

 From: singh...@erols.com
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Register for Webinar Wednesday - Find A Grave: the 
 World's Largest Cemetery Database by Russ Worthington
 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 13:04:16 -0400

 Geoff Rasmussen wrote:
  Explore Find-A-Grave, the largest cemetery database in the
  world and a must-have tool in your genealogy toolbox. In
  Wednesday's webinar, Russ Worthington will share insights
  and methodologies into best using the site for family
  history research. He will also provide suggestions about
  contributing your own photographs.

 I hope he mentions something I tripped across this week :
 revisiting some Memorials at FaG that I had already saved, I
 discovered information missing, added, or changed from my
 previous visit!  That means, I'm going to have to through
 several thousand names that have a FaG citation.  It is, at
 best, irksome.

 Cheryl-the-grumpy

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Re: [LegacyUG] Register for Webinar Wednesday - Find A Grave: the World's Largest Cemetery Database by Russ Worthington

2014-08-23 Thread Paula Ryburn
Cheryl,  After watching the webinar, I have sent several updates to 
maintainers, as well as asked them to transfer maintenance to me, so I can see 
why you see things changing--in the case of my ancestors, things are getting 
more accurate or complete.  

I think that as long as you recorded your access date in the citation, any 
mismatch found by a researcher who comes after you will be understood.  We can 
only hope  assume (?!) the updates are better information.  

Bottom line, though, these are secondary sources--always best to find the 
original if you are trying to prove something, publish, etc.

I have been using F-A-G to claim photo requests for the local cemeteries, then 
walk  take pictures when the weather is nice.  Here in Houston that means I 
haven't done it in months, ha!

I believe there is an option in the search to just see what's been updated in 
the past X days, too.  That might help you see what's changed for your family's 
memorials.
--Paula in Texas



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To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Register for Webinar Wednesday - Find A Grave: the 
World's Largest Cemetery Database by Russ Worthington


Geoff Rasmussen wrote:
 Explore Find-A-Grave, the largest cemetery database in the
 world and a must-have tool in your genealogy toolbox. In
 Wednesday's webinar, Russ Worthington will share insights
 and methodologies into best using the site for family
 history research. He will also provide suggestions about
 contributing your own photographs.

I hope he mentions something I tripped across this week :
revisiting some Memorials at FaG that I had already saved, I
discovered information missing, added, or changed from my
previous visit!  That means, I'm going to have to through
several thousand names that have a FaG citation.  It is, at
best, irksome.

Cheryl-the-grumpy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Find A Grave - The World's Largest Cemetery Database - free webinar by Russ Worthington now online for limited time

2014-08-23 Thread Paula Ryburn
Click on the Archives at the top  the Find-A-Grave video should be top of 
the list.  That's how I viewed it on Thursday.  --P



 From: gcr...@juno.com gcr...@juno.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Find A Grave - The World's Largest Cemetery Database - 
free webinar by Russ Worthington now online for limited time



I wanted to view this webinar but when I got to the page that says Watch
Video - FREE there was no where else to go. Doesn't seem to be a 'hot link'.
 
What am I doing wrong??
 
gc
 
On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:06:59 -0600 Geoff Rasmussen ge...@legacyusers.com 
writes:
The recording of today's webinar, Find A Grave - The World's Largest Cemetery 
Database by Russ Worthington is now available to view for free for a limited 
time at www.FamilyTreeWebinars.com. A few comments from our viewers:
   * Having been a member of Find A Grave for over 5 years, Russ taught 
 things that I did not know. Always great learning new things. This was great 
 information to know.
   * Wow! I learned so much! I had thought I already knew it all about 
 findagrave. Not so!! There is so much more there than I had thought. Thanks! 
 Great webinar!!!
   * Very informative - explained some features and search tips I was 
 unfamiliar with even though I've used Find a Grave for years. Also 
 appreciated Jeff's mini-session on source citation and cutting and pasting 
 from FAG into the source box.
View the Recording at FamilyTreeWebinars.com
If you could not make it to the live event or just want to watch it again, the 
1 hour 39 minute recording of Find A Grave - The World's Largest Cemetery 
Database is now available to view in our webinar archives for free for a 
limited time. It is also available to our monthly or annual Webinar Members 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Quality questions

2014-08-23 Thread Paula Ryburn
Cathy, The document was filled out by the father (my great-grandfather)--he was 
the 'informant' I guess.  And what's different is that he said she was born on 
October 1st, while the other more official looking documents say October 
10th--all agree on the year (1903).  You would think 3 for the 10th outnumber 
one for the 1st; however, the three are really all from the same place, just 
requested copies 3 different ways  times.  One I found online, and the other 
two appear to have been obtained by my grandmother on two occasions when she 
was getting a passport.  So, I don't think the 3 for the 10th can be said to be 
independent sources.  Back to square one.  Thanks! --Paula



 From: Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Quality questions


I don't think a person is a primary source for their own birth date. They 
weren't consciously there and only know what they have been told or gleaned 
from birth certificate.

Paula, the document you speak of is the original but has primary and secondary 
information on it if I've understood you correctly. Even if the parents gave 
the birth date, it's not a document contemporary with the birth and they could 
have miscalculated the year or falsified it for any number of reasons.

Cathy

R G Strong-genes wrote:
 Yes, The document itself is original, however, the fact of her birth
 you would have to go by who supplied the data for the birth date to
 determine if it is Primary or Secondary evidence. If the provider of
 the info was not your grandmother or her parents then the data is not
 Primary source.
 *From:* Paula Ryburn mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
 *Sent:* Sunday, August 10, 2014 6:17 PM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 mailto:legacyusergroup@Leg
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 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Source Quality questions
 I'm working on a very focused research project, just one question, and
 doing it the right way per two recent Legacy webinars  the Geneal.
 Stds. book, to test out some of the new v8 functionality--namely
 Source Quality analysis on the Source Detail citations. See how it
 works for this one person, then update the rest of my folks.
 Research question is When was my grandmother born?
 One document I have is the original Certificate of Registration of
 American Citizens, which lists my grandmother's birth date (among
 other things).
 When entering the citation for her birth date, I was puzzled on the
 first Source Quality item:
 Source - Original, Derivative, Authored or IDK.
 At first I put IDK, because this document is not her birth
 certificate--not the first documentation of her birth date, and it's
 not a derivative as Legacy describes it on the screen or authored
 either.
 N
ow I'm thinking I may have over-thought that.
 It IS the original (not even a photo copy) of this certificate--even
 if the purpose of this document/certificate is not to record her birth
 date (at least not only).
 So, I would indicate original in Legacy, right?
 Thanks!
 --Paula

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Re: [LegacyUG] Cousins reports

2014-08-10 Thread Paula Ryburn
I was curious, so I tested this out.  Turns out you can skip the export.  
Instead just Search for Tag# = Tagged and Print the Search Results list.  That 
way you can add folks (say, include 4th cousins) and reprint without having to 
reexport.  --P



 From: Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Cousins reports


On 06 Aug 2014 22:57, Patti Malone wrote:

 I am trying to find a way to print the names and pertinent info (b, d, m, etc)
 of all my 1st, 2nd, 3rd cousins.  I cannot  find a report option that will do
 this.  Has anyone done this?  if so, how?

Tag them all. Export to a separate file. Then print the Name List.

--
Regards, Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] Stuck in endless relink loop-----was: Recovering after crash

2014-08-10 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thanks, R.G., but I found it impossible to specify just plain C: drive in 
Windows 7 using the right-click Extract all approach.  I ended up extracting 
them into My Documents, which generated the expected Legacy folder with 
subfolders Data, Docs and Pictures (with my own subfolder there of Places).  I 
then successfully ran Relinker AND Gather, so now everything is in the default 
Media (including 3 files that had previously been in Data and Docs).  So, all's 
well that end well. ;)
Thanks again.



 From: R G Strong-genes rgstrongge...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Stuck in endless relink loop-was: Recovering 
after crash



Whenever you unzip the mediazipped file you must extract it to the C: drive
or the drive they were originally in and not a folder in the C: drive as the zip
file contains the path of the file and will restore it to those same folders. If
you were to unzip or “extract” them to a folder on the drive then it will add
the original folder names to that folder as subfolders. This is probably why the
program is not finding them as now they are in a different path. If this is what
has happened then just go to the folder you unzipped it to and drag those
subfolders to the root C: drive or the original drive.
Hope that helps, sorry you are having so much trouble with this. 
From: Paula Ryburn
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 10:42 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Stuck in endless relink loop-was:
Recovering after crash
  Let's just say third time's a charm--thanks so much for putting up
with my posts this evening!  --Paula
 


 From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2014
8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG]
Stuck in endless relink loop-was: Recovering after crash

 
Continuing...  I aborted the program with Task Manager.
I re-restored the database.
I checked and the images were in the default v8 folder; i.e., under My
Documents ... Media
The program still cannot find the images.
I ran Relink and it looked for the first image.  It found one, but
the way the words on the screen read to me, it was asking me about a file in the
OLD default location (under Program Files ... Pictures).  Is the wording
just confusing?  I don't even have the Legacy folder anymore, let alone a
Pictures folder.
I realize I sound helpless... perhaps it's just too late to be working on
this task?
Thanks!
--Paula
 
 




 From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, August
9, 2014 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Stuck in endless
relink loop-was: Recovering after crash

 
HELP!  I'm caught in an endless relink and gather
loop...!

I've
finally recovered my more urgent apps, so I'm recovering Legacy
now.
I
downloaded v8 and installed it.
After
one aborted restore (it restored the database on my external drive where the
backup file resides),
I
copied the backup file and the media backup file to the C:\My Documents\Legacy
Family Tree folder... database into \Data and media into \Media.
I
used Legacy 8 to restore the database... perfect.
I
then tried a few times to unzip (same as extract all, right??).
A
few surprise folders appeared... like the old C:\program files\Legacy
structure.
Eventually,
I just moved the entire \Pictures folder (all my image files were there) in
under the Legacy Family Tree folder  renamed it \Media -- that unzipping
always confuses me... why doesn't it just put the unzipped files into the same
folder where the zipped file resides?  I digress.
I
checked Options (Customize) and Legacy was looking for the files there... 
\Media
I
ran Relink and it relinked 1019 files, which sounded about right.  (Why did
it feel it had to search my whole computer, though?  All the files were
right there in the default folder...??)
However,
the images weren't relinked at all.  I tried pull one up and Legacy
couldn't find it.  So, what did it link???
Sooo,
I thought maybe I'm supposed to Gather them now??
I
tried that, and then it got confusing...  I didn't like clicking yes for
Legacy to MOVE the files, but I figured it would just find them all where they
were since that's where they should be per the default folder designation.
I
honestly don't know how many times I've clicked the relink because it seems to
be coming up for every stinking image file in the gather process.  Is
this right?
What's
worse:  It doesn't stop--I can't exit out!
 
Can
you please help me?  I'm stuck in this endless loop  cant' even close
Legacy to start over.
Seriously,
though, if the files are all in the default folder, why is the program having so
much trouble?
Thanks
in advance,
--Paula
 





 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

[LegacyUG] Source Quality questions

2014-08-10 Thread Paula Ryburn
I'm working on a very focused research project, just one question, and doing it 
the right way per two recent Legacy webinars  the Geneal. Stds. book, to 
test out some of the new v8 functionality--namely Source Quality analysis on 
the Source Detail citations.  See how it works for this one person, then update 
the rest of my folks.

Research question is When was my grandmother born?
One document I have is the original Certificate of Registration of American 
Citizens, which lists my grandmother's birth date (among other things).
When entering the citation for her birth date, I was puzzled on the first 
Source Quality item:  

Source - Original, Derivative, Authored or IDK.

At first I put IDK, because this document is not her birth certificate--not the 
first documentation of her birth date, and it's not a derivative as Legacy 
describes it on the screen or authored either.
Now I'm thinking I may have over-thought that.

It IS the original (not even a photo copy) of this certificate--even if the 
purpose of this document/certificate is not to record her birth date (at least 
not only).  
So, I would indicate original in Legacy, right?

Thanks!
--Paula


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Re: [LegacyUG] Stuck in endless relink loop-----was: Recovering after crash

2014-08-09 Thread Paula Ryburn
HELP!  I'm caught in an endless relink and gather loop...!

I've finally recovered my more urgent apps, so I'm recovering Legacy now.
I downloaded v8 and installed it.
After one aborted restore (it restored the database on my external drive where 
the backup file resides),
I copied the backup file and the media backup file to the C:\My 
Documents\Legacy Family Tree folder... database into \Data and media into 
\Media.
I used Legacy 8 to restore the database... perfect.
I then tried a few times to unzip (same as extract all, right??).
A few surprise folders appeared... like the old C:\program files\Legacy 
structure.
Eventually, I just moved the entire \Pictures folder (all my image files were 
there) in under the Legacy Family Tree folder  renamed it \Media -- that 
unzipping always confuses me... why doesn't it just put the unzipped files into 
the same folder where the zipped file resides?  I digress.
I checked Options (Customize) and Legacy was looking for the files there...  
\Media
I ran Relink and it relinked 1019 files, which sounded about right.  (Why did 
it feel it had to search my whole computer, though?  All the files were right 
there in the default folder...??)
However, the images weren't relinked at all.  I tried pull one up and Legacy 
couldn't find it.  So, what did it link???
Sooo, I thought maybe I'm supposed to Gather them now??
I tried that, and then it got confusing...  I didn't like clicking yes for 
Legacy to MOVE the files, but I figured it would just find them all where they 
were since that's where they should be per the default folder designation.
I honestly don't know how many times I've clicked the relink because it seems 
to be coming up for every stinking image file in the gather process.  Is this 
right?
What's worse:  It doesn't stop--I can't exit out!

Can you please help me?  I'm stuck in this endless loop  cant' even close 
Legacy to start over.
Seriously, though, if the files are all in the default folder, why is the 
program having so much trouble?
Thanks in advance,
--Paula



 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Recovering after crash



Customer numbers are version specific. Contact sa...@legacyfamilytree.com or 
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com to confirm your customer number and which version 
you have last purchased.


There's no need to install v7.5 before installing v8. Just install the most 
recent build from our website. www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/DownloadLegacy.asp.


After installing Legacy, go to File  Restore to restore the data files. The 
media files need to be unzipped using the default program in Windows.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:

Hello all - I am in the process of recovering from a hard drive crash.
Please feel free to point me to a page with all the answers to my questions, 
of course, but here are my questions...


I have my v8 database  media file backups on external drive.
Is my v8 customer ID the same as my v7.5 customer ID?  (for Deluxe)


Due to being an excellent pack rat (?), I have my old computer  will be 
copying over most of my apps circa early 2012.
Should I copy Legacy v7.x from the old PC to the new one (including database), 
upgrade to v8, and restore from latest backup?
Or should I just download v8, and restore from latest backup?
I like the simplicity of the latter, but am I over-looking something?
For example, I seem to remember that the v8 conversion left all my photo files 
in the C:/Legacy/Pictures folder, rather than moving them over to My 
Documents.  Is that an issue at all?


Thanks in advance,
--Paula in Texas




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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Centre

2014-08-09 Thread Paula Ryburn
A while back, I asked about those indicators, and I seem to remember support 
saying they don't operate correctly for images linked to source citations.  I 
don't remember if they said it was a bug or if they told me I shouldn't try 
to draw any conclusions. ;)  --Paula



 From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:11 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Picture Centre


Although it doesn't seem to be documented in the Help files, looking in
the Picture Centre at a list of images in a Source Images folder, one
sees a - in the U column against each one which is attached to a Source
and a blank if an image is not attached.

Going through each of my Census Image folders today in order to remove
some images that were unattached when the people concerned were deleted
I noticed 1 image in each of 2 folders which had a + next them!  It
turned out to be the Census entries in 1901 and 1911 for the same
family, but I cannot see anything out of the ordinary in the way I have
used these images or the Sources to which they are attached

I've never seen this before and over the years I've used the Picture
Census scores of times to look at images in 35 Census Image folders -
hundreds of images!

Can anyone explain?
--
Jenny M Benson


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Re: [LegacyUG] Stuck in endless relink loop-----was: Recovering after crash

2014-08-09 Thread Paula Ryburn
Continuing...  I aborted the program with Task Manager.
I re-restored the database.
I checked and the images were in the default v8 folder; i.e., under My 
Documents ... Media
The program still cannot find the images.
I ran Relink and it looked for the first image.  It found one, but the way 
the words on the screen read to me, it was asking me about a file in the OLD 
default location (under Program Files ... Pictures).  Is the wording just 
confusing?  I don't even have the Legacy folder anymore, let alone a Pictures 
folder.
I realize I sound helpless... perhaps it's just too late to be working on this 
task?
Thanks!
--Paula




 From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2014 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Stuck in endless relink loop-was: Recovering 
after crash



HELP!  I'm caught in an endless relink and gather loop...!

I've finally recovered my more urgent apps, so I'm recovering Legacy now.
I downloaded v8 and installed it.
After one aborted restore (it restored the database on my external drive where 
the backup file resides),
I copied the backup file and the media backup file to the C:\My 
Documents\Legacy Family Tree folder... database into \Data and media into 
\Media.
I used Legacy 8 to restore the database... perfect.
I then tried a few times to unzip (same as extract all, right??).
A few surprise folders appeared... like the old C:\program files\Legacy 
structure.
Eventually, I just moved the entire \Pictures folder (all my image files were 
there) in under the Legacy Family Tree folder  renamed it \Media -- that 
unzipping always confuses me... why doesn't it just put the unzipped files into 
the same folder where the zipped file resides?  I digress.
I checked Options (Customize) and Legacy was looking for the files there...  
\Media
I ran Relink and it relinked 1019 files, which sounded about right.  (Why did 
it feel it had to search my whole computer, though?  All the files were right 
there in the default folder...??)
However, the images weren't relinked at all.  I tried pull one up and Legacy 
couldn't find it.  So, what did it link???
Sooo, I thought maybe I'm supposed to Gather them now??
I tried that, and then it got confusing...  I didn't like clicking yes for 
Legacy to MOVE the files, but I figured it would just find them all where they 
were since that's where they should be per the default folder designation.
I honestly don't know how many times I've clicked the relink because it seems 
to be coming up for every stinking image file in the gather process.  Is this 
right?
What's worse:  It doesn't stop--I can't exit out!

Can you please help me?  I'm stuck in this endless loop  cant' even close 
Legacy to start over.
Seriously, though, if the files are all in the default folder, why is the 
program having so much trouble?
Thanks in advance,
--Paula






 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Recovering after crash



Customer numbers are version specific. Contact sa...@legacyfamilytree.com or 
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com to confirm your customer number and which version 
you have last purchased.


There's no need to install v7.5 before installing v8. Just install the most 
recent build from our website. www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/DownloadLegacy.asp.


After installing Legacy, go to File  Restore to restore the data files. The 
media files need to be unzipped using the default program in Windows.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:

Hello all - I am in the process of recovering from a hard drive crash.
Please feel free to point me to a page with all the answers to my questions, 
of course, but here are my questions...


I have my v8 database  media file backups on external drive.
Is my v8 customer ID the same as my v7.5 customer ID?  (for Deluxe)


Due to being an excellent pack rat (?), I have my old computer  will be 
copying over most of my apps circa early 2012.
Should I copy Legacy v7.x from the old PC to the new one (including database), 
upgrade to v8, and restore from latest backup?
Or should I just download v8, and restore from latest backup?
I like the simplicity of the latter, but am I over-looking something?
For example, I seem to remember that the v8 conversion left all my photo files 
in the C:/Legacy/Pictures folder, rather than moving them over to My 
Documents.  Is that an issue at all?


Thanks in advance,
--Paula in Texas




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Re: [LegacyUG] Stuck in endless relink loop-----was: Recovering after crash

2014-08-09 Thread Paula Ryburn
Let's just say third time's a charm--thanks so much for putting up with my 
posts this evening!  --Paula



 From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2014 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Stuck in endless relink loop-was: Recovering 
after crash



Continuing...  I aborted the program with Task Manager.
I re-restored the database.
I checked and the images were in the default v8 folder; i.e., under My 
Documents ... Media
The program still cannot find the images.
I ran Relink and it looked for the first image.  It found one, but the way 
the words on the screen read to me, it was asking me about a file in the OLD 
default location (under Program Files ... Pictures).  Is the wording just 
confusing?  I don't even have the Legacy folder anymore, let alone a Pictures 
folder.
I realize I sound helpless... perhaps it's just too late to be working on this 
task?
Thanks!
--Paula






 From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2014 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Stuck in endless relink loop-was: Recovering 
after crash



HELP!  I'm caught in an endless relink and gather loop...!

I've finally recovered my more urgent apps, so I'm recovering Legacy now.
I downloaded v8 and installed it.
After one aborted restore (it restored the database on my external drive where 
the backup file resides),
I copied the backup file and the media backup file to the C:\My 
Documents\Legacy Family Tree folder... database into \Data and media into 
\Media.
I used Legacy 8 to restore the database... perfect.
I then tried a few times to unzip (same as extract all, right??).
A few surprise folders appeared... like the old C:\program files\Legacy 
structure.
Eventually, I just moved the entire \Pictures folder (all my image files were 
there) in under the Legacy Family Tree folder  renamed it \Media -- that 
unzipping always confuses me... why doesn't it just put the unzipped files into 
the same folder where the zipped file resides?  I digress.
I checked Options (Customize) and Legacy was looking for the files there...  
\Media
I ran Relink and it relinked 1019 files, which sounded about right.  (Why did 
it feel it had to search my whole computer, though?  All the files were right 
there in the default folder...??)
However, the images weren't relinked at all.  I tried pull one up and Legacy 
couldn't find it.  So, what did it link???
Sooo, I thought maybe I'm supposed to Gather them now??
I tried that, and then it got confusing...  I didn't like clicking yes for 
Legacy to MOVE the files, but I figured it would just find them all where they 
were since that's where they should be per the default folder designation.
I honestly don't know how many times I've clicked the relink because it seems 
to be coming up for every stinking image file in the gather process.  Is this 
right?
What's worse:  It doesn't stop--I can't exit out!

Can you please help me?  I'm stuck in this endless loop  cant' even close 
Legacy to start over.
Seriously, though, if the files are all in the default folder, why is the 
program having so much trouble?
Thanks in advance,
--Paula






 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Recovering after crash



Customer numbers are version specific. Contact sa...@legacyfamilytree.com or 
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com to confirm your customer number and which version 
you have last purchased.


There's no need to install v7.5 before installing v8. Just install the most 
recent build from our website. www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/DownloadLegacy.asp.


After installing Legacy, go to File  Restore to restore the data files. The 
media files need to be unzipped using the default program in Windows.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:

Hello all - I am in the process of recovering from a hard drive crash.
Please feel free to point me to a page with all the answers to my questions, 
of course, but here are my questions...


I have my v8 database  media file backups on external drive.
Is my v8 customer ID the same as my v7.5 customer ID?  (for Deluxe)


Due to being an excellent pack rat (?), I have my old computer  will be 
copying over most of my apps circa early 2012.
Should I copy Legacy v7.x from the old PC to the new one (including database), 
upgrade to v8, and restore from latest backup?
Or should I just download v8, and restore from latest backup?
I like the simplicity of the latter, but am I over-looking something?
For example, I seem to remember that the v8 conversion left all my photo files 
in the C:/Legacy/Pictures folder, rather than moving them over to My 
Documents

Re: [LegacyUG] Media attached to events - help needed

2014-08-04 Thread Paula Ryburn
Kathy, 
Yes, you can (and I do) add media to source citations.  
You have always been able to do both--and can still do both in v8.  
(if that's what you meant)
--Paula



 From: Kathryn Wallace tamis...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2014 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Media attached to events - help needed



I appreciate the reply Mike.  I was adding media Sources or Source citations.  
I have thousands added that way. What you said worked just fine.   So do you 
never add media to sources now?  I don't often do reports but will have to see 
if things are different.

Kathy



On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

On 28 Jul 2014 22:26, Kathryn Wallace wrote:

 I'm new to Legacy 8 and see that in the Events/Facts there is a spot with 
 'has
 media attached'.   Mine do not show up.   When I test my media file locations
 there is no problem.  If it matters, mine are all on Dropbox and I left them
 where they had been in version 7.5 so it is C:\Dropbox\Legacy\Pictures\ . It
 would save me time if I could see if there was media already attached to an 
 event.

Are you sure you're doing things correctly? This does not apply to those pieces
of media that have been attached to Sources or Source citations.

Take an Individual and show the Information window.
Select an existing event and click Edit.
Click on the normal Pictures icon (two people in a picture frame).

[You now have the Media gallery for the event.]

Click on Add Media
Select the type of media
[if you select Picture you get an extra Display Picture window]
Navigate to your piece of media. select it and press the Open button.
When finished manipulating the picture, press the Close button.
Can add further bits of Media.
When finished, press the Close button.
Save the Event
Voila!

--
Regards, Mike Fry
Johannesburg




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Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions for locations- Family View and Family Group Records ?

2014-08-02 Thread Paula Ryburn
You're welcome, John!  Glad it works for you.
At one time, I had been putting the hospital (births) or church (marriages) or 
cemetery (burials) in the Address table.  However, if you select to print 
addresses, the whole address is included, which is extremely redundant in the 
book reports.  (I may have submitted a suggestion on that, but it was so long 
ago, I don't remember.)  Then I started putting the hospital, church or 
cemetery in as part of the location--which looks great, but ruffles feathers 
here. ;)  So, if you looked at my database, it is currently a hodge-podge!  
One day I will get it cleaned up--isn't that always our plan? ha!
--Paula



 From: johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, August 1, 2014 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions for locations-  Family View and Family 
Group Records ?



Wow, thank you Paula! I
have rediscovered the Address field! I had completely forgotten about it as I
only ever used it a few times, a number of years ago, but did not find it useful
for my purposes. I did not even realise Address could be displayed in book
reports or Family Group Records. As you suggested, I played around with it and
think I can use it to meet my needs- to comment on locations, rather than adding
locations in the Address field.  It
does not display in the Family View but I think I can live with
that.
I use another database for
addresses of living cousins, and it is very rare to get an address of ancestors
from hamlets or villages in Europe. Occasionally I get something like “house
18”. Therefore the Address field is freely available for other uses.
I agree with Paula-
software such as Legacy is to be used however one wants or needs. Legacy is very
flexible but all programs have limitations so users may need to “think outside
the box”.
John 
From: Paula Ryburn
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 5:24 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions for locations- Family View and
Family Group Records ?
  I know there are those on this list who will shoot down this idea
quickly and vehemently, but...
Have
you thought of using the Address field?
I
used to do this to indicate probably or add on the farm... that was awhile
ago, so my memory is fuzzy.
I
have seen many, many threads here discussing the use of locations and
addresses so I won't go into details (you can search the archives)  don't
need to hear both sides again. ;)
 
I'm
not sure it would work for John's Poland/Russia examples, but maybe for Ron's
Salt Lake City examples?  Especially if there is a known city used in most
cases  you just have a few cases of near to indicate...?
You
would need to try it on a field or two  run some reports to see if you like
the format.
 
This
approach would probably not work for someone who uses the Address table for
addresses. ;)  ...or maybe it would?
Legacy
is flexible; I'm just offering up another table/place to be flexible.
--Paula
 
 


 From: johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014
10:43 PM
Subject: Re:
[LegacyUG] Prepositions for locations- Family View and Family Group Records
?

 
Hi Ron,
I have been doing something
similar to you but I am trying to minimise the number variations of the same
location in the Master Location List e.g.
Sitaniec, Zamość, Crown
Province of Galicia, Habsburg Empire
Sitaniec, Zamość, Lublin,
Duchy of Warsaw
Sitaniec, Zamość, Lublin,
Kingdom of Poland ('Russian Poland')
Sitaniec, Zamość, Lublin,
Republic of Poland
of Sitaniec, Zamość,
Lublin, Kingdom of Poland ('Russian Poland')
of Sitaniec, Zamość,
Lublin, Republic of Poland
I am trying to make my
family history story very readable and presented elegantly without sacrificing
accuracy or details, so I am conscious that my Location Index may be confusing
for readers, especially with modifiers.
I think what I would need
is another field, where you add Individuals’ Information to the Family View (and
Family Group Reports). This could be an optional drop down field (probably
placed below “Christened”) and where you could add your own element e.g.
“Earliest Known Residence” or whatever individual Legacy users may want. I
realize such information could be added as an Event or in notes, but it would
much more convenient for me while researching, or for readers of my family
history,  to immediately see accurate details about each
person without having to dig for it.
John 
From: Ron Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:33 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions for locations- Family View and
Family Group Records ?
  John,
If
you add the modifiers to the Master Location List and link your individual
records to those modified locations, they should show in the reports and
elsewhere.  Look at the examples I gave of Salt Lake City.  Those

Re: [LegacyUG] Media attached to events - help needed

2014-08-02 Thread Paula Ryburn
Kathryn, Did you get any help with this issue?  (I've had email issues, so may 
have missed posts.)  --Paula




 From: Kathryn Wallace tamis...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:26 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Media attached to events - help needed



For many years when I have entered an event such as a census I have used the 
Residence event, put in the detail information / text comments and have added 
the image as part of the event.

I'm new to Legacy 8 and see that in the Events/Facts there is a spot with 'has 
media attached'.   Mine do not show up.   When I test my media file locations 
there is no problem.  If it matters, mine are all on Dropbox and I left them 
where they had been in version 7.5 so it is C:\Dropbox\Legacy\Pictures\ . It 
would save me time if I could see if there was media already attached to an 
event.

I have Geoff's book Legacy Family Tree Unlocked and looking at pages 172-173 I 
am not seeing the same screens.  I don't see anything about Loading a picture - 
or having an option to leave the file where it is and link to it there.  I also 
don't see an option to copy anything to the Media folder or Display the picture.

Suggestions appreciated.
Kathy Wallace - Ottawa, Canada

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Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions for locations- Family View and Family Group Records ?

2014-08-01 Thread Paula Ryburn
I know there are those on this list who will shoot down this idea quickly and 
vehemently, but...
Have you thought of using the Address field?
I used to do this to indicate probably or add on the farm... that was 
awhile ago, so my memory is fuzzy.
I have seen many, many threads here discussing the use of locations and 
addresses so I won't go into details (you can search the archives)  don't 
need to hear both sides again. ;)

I'm not sure it would work for John's Poland/Russia examples, but maybe for 
Ron's Salt Lake City examples?  Especially if there is a known city used in 
most cases  you just have a few cases of near to indicate...?
You would need to try it on a field or two  run some reports to see if you 
like the format.

This approach would probably not work for someone who uses the Address table 
for addresses. ;)  ...or maybe it would?
Legacy is flexible; I'm just offering up another table/place to be flexible.
--Paula




 From: johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions for locations-  Family View and Family 
Group Records ?



Hi Ron,
I have been doing something
similar to you but I am trying to minimise the number variations of the same
location in the Master Location List e.g.
Sitaniec, Zamość, Crown
Province of Galicia, Habsburg Empire
Sitaniec, Zamość, Lublin,
Duchy of Warsaw
Sitaniec, Zamość, Lublin,
Kingdom of Poland ('Russian Poland')
Sitaniec, Zamość, Lublin,
Republic of Poland
of Sitaniec, Zamość,
Lublin, Kingdom of Poland ('Russian Poland')
of Sitaniec, Zamość,
Lublin, Republic of Poland
I am trying to make my
family history story very readable and presented elegantly without sacrificing
accuracy or details, so I am conscious that my Location Index may be confusing
for readers, especially with modifiers.
I think what I would need
is another field, where you add Individuals’ Information to the Family View (and
Family Group Reports). This could be an optional drop down field (probably
placed below “Christened”) and where you could add your own element e.g.
“Earliest Known Residence” or whatever individual Legacy users may want. I
realize such information could be added as an Event or in notes, but it would
much more convenient for me while researching, or for readers of my family
history,  to immediately see
accurate details about each person without having to dig for it.
John 
From: Ron Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:33 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions for locations- Family View and
Family Group Records ?
  John,
If
you add the modifiers to the Master Location List and link your individual
records to those modified locations, they should show in the reports and
elsewhere.  Look at the examples I gave of Salt Lake City.  Those are
actual entries in my Master Locations List.
Ron
Taylor


On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 4:30 AM,
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
wrote:



It seems that adding prepositions or modifiers at the
end of locations and adding them as new entries to the Master Location List is
the best I can do for my database purposes, at least for now. I eventually want
to include a number of Family Group Records as ‘Family Story’ chapters in a
book. I will have to convert them to a word document, and then add the
prepositions or modifiers before publishing it. 
From: Ron Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:22 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions for locations- Family View and
Family Group Records ?
  There is a field in the tblLR (Master Locations Table) called
Preposition which can be set and used in reports as you described.  There
is also a file C:\...Documents\Legacy Family
Tree\_AppData\Misc\Preposition_English.lst which is used by the Master Locations
List to sort locations.  It does it by removing the words in that file from
the location, putting it on the end of the location name, then sorting the list
so that all locations that are the same will display next to each other and the
preposition tacked onto the end.  That is helpful.  Some of the
entries in that list are not actually prepositions.  In fact,  some of
the entries are multiple words.  I think a better term for them would be
location modifiers instead of prepositions.

What
would be great but would require some extensive re-writing would be to have an
actual database table of location modifiers.  That table could come into
play as a pull down list (similar to Child Status, Event Type, Surname List,
etc.) where you can select the location modifier to be applied to a specific
location field.  That would mean that a location modifier key field be
inserted into every table where a link to the tblLR is used.  The
preposition field that is in tblLR would only be used for reports when the
location modifier is blank.  The main effect that a 

Re: [LegacyUG] Children

2014-08-01 Thread Paula Ryburn
Ruff and Bick -- love it! ;)



 From: singhals singh...@erols.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Children


Jessica Morgan wrote:
 Thanks for the thumbs up. Someone else stated that it wasn't
 wise to number the children, because it could be in error. I

Yes, of course it could be in error.  OTOH, I've had
experiences where we knew there were 6 children but 8 names
were cited in an obit...turned out that Ruff and Melanie
were the same person and Bick and Leonard were the same person.

snip


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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestors and descendants listings

2014-08-01 Thread Paula Ryburn
Ed,
There is one called Multiple Lines of Descent.  You would have to read the 
Help.  I am not familiar with it, but I have seen it recommended here when 
someone asked for an everyone report.
Are you on 7.5 or 8.0?
How many individuals are we talking about here?  1000?  100,000?
For me, I could run an Ancestor Book Report starting with my daughter and get 
just about everyone in an inverted triangle... know what I mean?
Then, I could run Descendant Books ( or Desc. Narratives) starting with the 
oldest ancestors.  Lots of redundancy, but (in my case) I would see all my 
daughter's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. cousins (that I know about  have entered).
Now... these are not narrative in the sense that you could read it like a 
book (even if you choose the right event print options)... 

What are you really trying to DO?  What do you need the report or data FOR?  ;)
We have folks here who have done it all and done a lot of unique reporting.  
But sometimes we need more information.
Thanks,
--Paula



 From: Ed Newman em...@comcast.net
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, August 1, 2014 8:00 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Ancestors and descendants listings



I am trying to produce separate reports (as noted above) which includes “every 
individual – person, parents, children, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, etc.  
This may not be very clear, however, when I prepare these reports, I want every 
person in my data base with any connection to be listed on the reports.  Any 
suggestions would be appreciated.
 
Ed



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Re: [LegacyUG] Recovering after crash

2014-07-26 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thanks, Cathy--just the advice I needed.  I can restore and then move the whole 
folder (folder contents)... or unzip into the new location?  I do feel a bit 
embarrassed to be asking such basic questions!  The loss of my drive has me a 
bit loopy.  Thanks again.  --P




 From: Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Recovering after crash


Hi Paula,

Sherry has answered most of your queries.

Re the photos and other media.
Put them where you want them and then use the Media Relinker tool to fix
the links in Legacy.
There's no need to leave them at the Legacy 7 default if that's where
you put them before.
If you like using the defaults, put them in Documents\Legacy Family
Tree\Media

Cathy

Paula Ryburn wrote:

 Hello all - I am in the process of recovering from a hard drive crash.
 Please feel free to point me to a page with all the answers to my
 questions, of course, but here are my questions...

 I have my v8 database  media file backups on external drive.
 Is my v8 customer ID the same as my v7.5 customer ID? (for Deluxe)

 Due to being an excellent pack rat (?), I have my old computer  will
 be copying over most of my apps circa early 2012.
 Should I copy Legacy v7.x from the old PC to the new one (including
 database), upgrade to v8, and restore from latest backup?
 Or should I just download v8, and restore from latest backup?
 I like the simplicity of the latter, but am I over-looking something?
 For example, I seem to remember that the v8 conversion left all my
 photo files in the C:/Legacy/Pictures folder, rather than moving them
 over to My Documents. Is that an issue at all?

 Thanks in advance,
 --Paula in Texas


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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8.0.0.439

2014-07-26 Thread Paula Ryburn
Yikes!  I will definitely hold off downloading v8 to restore my database until 
this issue has been resolved.  Thanks for sharing the information her, Jenny!  
--P




 From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8.0.0.439


On 25/07/2014 18:14, Jenny M Benson wrote:
 I just updated to the latest release and at what appeared to be the end
 of the process a dialog box appeared which said that setup had not
 completed successfully and I needed to download the full program from
 the website.  There were three option buttons - Yes, No and Cancel.  I
 clicked yes and the Legacy site download page opened but as it was doing
 so, another dialog box popped up which said that the installation had
 completed successfully!

Further to the above, the update to 439 has been a complete disaster.  I
keep getting Error 9.  Having exhausted all the options of the Online
Troubleshooting information for this error (including uninstalling,
running CCleaner, reinstalling, opening my oldest (of 3) backups,
running Check/Repair 3 times and exporting it to a new file) the error
persists.  I have informed Support.

Is anyone else having trouble with this update?

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Source Detail in Legacy 8.0.0.439

2014-07-26 Thread Paula Ryburn
Is this happening only when you use the source clipboard?  (If I'm seeing your 
screenshot correctly.)  --P




 From: Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 6:02 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adding Source Detail in Legacy 8.0.0.439



It happens with any attempt to create a new Detail Source.  Attached is a 
picture of the Detail Source screen so you can see what I get.

Dave


-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:52 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Source Detail in Legacy 8.0.0.439

On 26 Jul 2014 21:05, Dave Johnson wrote:

 For some reason the description field names are absent whenever I try
 to add a new Source Detail Screen.  The Source Detail Screen opens and
 the fields are available for entry but the descriptions of each field
 has a color (:) and that is all.  Is this a bug?  I've run the
 maintenance programs to no avail.

No bug. At least not here with the standard version. Could you perhaps have 
selected a colour scheme in which the foreground and background colours of the 
prompts are the same? I presume that you're talking about the prompt strings 
that occupy the empty data fields on the Edit Source Detail window.

--
Regards, Mike Fry
Johannesburg


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[LegacyUG] Recovering after crash

2014-07-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
Hello all - I am in the process of recovering from a hard drive crash.
Please feel free to point me to a page with all the answers to my questions, of 
course, but here are my questions...

I have my v8 database  media file backups on external drive.
Is my v8 customer ID the same as my v7.5 customer ID?  (for Deluxe)

Due to being an excellent pack rat (?), I have my old computer  will be 
copying over most of my apps circa early 2012.
Should I copy Legacy v7.x from the old PC to the new one (including database), 
upgrade to v8, and restore from latest backup?
Or should I just download v8, and restore from latest backup?
I like the simplicity of the latter, but am I over-looking something?
For example, I seem to remember that the v8 conversion left all my photo files 
in the C:/Legacy/Pictures folder, rather than moving them over to My Documents. 
 Is that an issue at all?

Thanks in advance,
--Paula in Texas


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Re: [LegacyUG] recovering from deleted files

2014-07-25 Thread Paula Ryburn


.fdb for the databases
I think there might be information on the pertinent file extensions somewhere 
in Help in the app.

--P



 From: Anthony Gasparatos anthonygaspara...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 3:40 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] recovering from deleted files



I use Legacy Family Tree 7.5 in XP, over 400 records.


I inadvertently deleted all my data files in my hard disk, as well as my backup 
files, including my family tree's data files.


Using a software package called Glary utilities, I was able to restore
thousands of files, probably including Legacy's files, but they seem to
be in no particular order and not in the original subdirectory order.


How do I find the legacy data files among the thousands of restored files? Do 
they have a particular characteristic or extension that I can use to locate 
them on the long list of recovered files?


The family tree software comes up fine but it doesn't bring up my family
tree since it is not set up to look at the recovered list.


Thank you


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Re: [LegacyUG] Independent Cities

2014-07-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
William, You might check the archives for threads where these old locations in 
other counties or other states issues were discussed.  As I remember, the 
preferred method (by those on this list) is to record it as it existed at the 
time of the event.  So, for your old WV locations, it would be VA--and aren't 
those just warning messages?  And if you are trying to map in a chronology or 
something, I seem to remember you could enter it with WV originally to get it 
pinned (Geo Code database?) and then change it back to VA.  Like I said, you 
might search the archives for old location names or something similar--to get 
the detail versions of what I've just mentioned.  I haven't run into any of 
these, so I don't have first-hand knowledge.  --Paula




 From: William Hoff bh...@mchsi.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Independent Cities



I've been using only West Virginia and noting with the location that prior to 
June 20, 1863 it was VA.  With county edit I then get an error MSG that the 
county did not exist. Guess I just have to live with that. Being from WV there 
is a lot of this though.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2014, at 11:25 AM, Margaret Gagliardi megsge...@gmail.com wrote:


Thanks so much for the ideas. I will try them.  I always use VA if it is before 
West Virginia became a state. Once it became a state I use WV. I know those 
counties, so for me it works well.  However if you are using GPS etc. I would 
put it as WV with (VA) after it. I don't know if that would confuse the GPS or 
not, but you might try it.
Margaret



On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com wrote:

On 7/23/2014 11:22 AM, Margaret Gagliardi wrote:
 Would someone please tell me how I should record Petersburg, Virginia? It 
 is an independent City, without a County.

 Thank you very much.
 Margaret


Petersburg, Petersburg (city), Virginia, USA

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Re: [LegacyUG] Recovering after crash

2014-07-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thank you, Sherry!



 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Recovering after crash



Customer numbers are version specific. Contact sa...@legacyfamilytree.com or 
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com to confirm your customer number and which version 
you have last purchased.


There's no need to install v7.5 before installing v8. Just install the most 
recent build from our website. www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/DownloadLegacy.asp.


After installing Legacy, go to File  Restore to restore the data files. The 
media files need to be unzipped using the default program in Windows.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:

Hello all - I am in the process of recovering from a hard drive crash.
Please feel free to point me to a page with all the answers to my questions, 
of course, but here are my questions...


I have my v8 database  media file backups on external drive.
Is my v8 customer ID the same as my v7.5 customer ID?  (for Deluxe)


Due to being an excellent pack rat (?), I have my old computer  will be 
copying over most of my apps circa early 2012.
Should I copy Legacy v7.x from the old PC to the new one (including database), 
upgrade to v8, and restore from latest backup?
Or should I just download v8, and restore from latest backup?
I like the simplicity of the latter, but am I over-looking something?
For example, I seem to remember that the v8 conversion left all my photo files 
in the C:/Legacy/Pictures folder, rather than moving them over to My 
Documents.  Is that an issue at all?


Thanks in advance,
--Paula in Texas



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Re: [LegacyUG] pictures

2014-07-21 Thread Paula Ryburn
Donna,
Have you searched the archives?  There were a lot of threads about relinking 
media and such right about the time v8 came out.  The link is at the bottom of 
this email.
--Paula in Texas



 From: Donna Newell djnewel...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 11:51 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] pictures



So far nothing is working on linking up the pictures.  I printed a list of 
missing, 1188, and I can link them individually.  Now that will take a long 
time.  It finds the pictures on the other flash drive where they were 
associated with Legacy 7.5, it is still using that drive as the designation for 
where they are.  I wanted them to transfer over to the Legacy 8 flash drive.  
Media Linker won’t link them up.  Am I reduced to doing each one and having the 
media stored on the other flash drive.  This does not seem logical.  I am sure 
there has to be a very easy way to do this.  Suggestions welcome.
Donna in Ardmore


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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant chart -- 3 generations with spouses

2014-07-21 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thump on my head, Nancy--you're so right! ;)



 From: Nancy Stevens nancystevens4...@gmail.com
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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant chart -- 3 generations with spouses



One way to include only the people you want to include is to tag them and 
create a new file with just those individuals.  You can include spouses and 
parents of spouses, for example, but not children.




On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:

Pat, It really depends on what you need this chart for.  If you just need to 
print a reference list, here's a quick  dirty method:

Run it for 4 generations, with the data you want to include.  Click to 
generate a text file (look on the right side), then click Create--it will ask 
you for a file name.  Once created, outside of Legacy, open the .txt file 
using Notepad and delete the lines for 4th generation (children), leaving the 
spouses of 3rd generation.  Save  print.  Like, I said quick  dirty.

Whether or not the result fits on one page depends on your ancestry... how 
many people are involved.  The Legacy Charting method (mentioned elsewhere in 
the thread) might allow more shrinking flexibility.  On the other hand, if 
you opened the .txt file in a Word processing app, you could change the font 
size there  maybe fit your ancestors onto one page.  Just depends on your 
purpose for generating the report.

Hope this helps you.
--Paula




On Thu, 7/17/14, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant chart -- 3 generations with spouses
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Thursday, July 17, 2014, 2:08 PM

 I do not think that is possible in
 the chart. You cannot include the
 spouses for the third generation without also including
 their children.

 There is no fit to one page option for any chart except the
 pedigree charts.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/

 On 17/07/2014 2:40 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:
  How do I get Legacy to create a 3-generation descendant
 chart with spouses
  for everyone, but no great-grandchildren?
 
  In other words I want 1) the ancestor, 2) his children,
 their spouses and
  3) children and those children's spouses -- but no
 great-grandchildren.
 
  Also, is there an option somewhere that says fit this
 into one page?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Pat





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