Re: LyX on iPad

[David L. Johnson]

On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 15:49:19 + (UTC)
Anders Host-Madsen  wrote:

> Still have not found the proper way to post to thread, so I just hope
> it will show up the right place. First, for the topic of the thread:
> I have now tried 1) rollapp.com and 2) remote access to my Mac from
> iPad (Screens and TeamWiever). rollapp.com is too limited (e.g.,
> shortcuts and arrow keys don't work) and expensive. Remote access is
> too slow and unreliable to be a solution. So, the only solution would
> be some type of native app on iPad. 

These limitations are not surprising.  It would be nice to have a
version that would work --- at least on the front end --- on a tablet
(I prefer Android, but the idea is the same).  I'd like to be able to
write when I only have my tablet with me, rather than have to deal with
my laptop all the time.

I remember this kind of discussion before, when Windows users were
asking for a version of LyX that ran on their computers (Initially LyX
was only available for un*x machines, principally linux but it would
compile on most unix boxes, if you had Motif).  Eventually it happened,
but you need to find a programmer with the proper expertise and
interest.


> I do think of LyX as a frontend
> for LaTeX, and not at all irrelevant. In fact, it is the software I
> use the most of all software that I have. It has completely
> revolutionized my workflow, as it's now so easy to write LaTeX. 

I certainly agree.  But, being a mathematician, most of what I write is
impossible to produce decently on Word, et. al.  Also, most of what I
write is still meant for paper, eventually, so e-book formats are not a
big deal for me.


 I
> think the issue is not that LyX is outdated, but that LaTeX is
> outdated. It's made for typesetting on paper, and honestly most
> reading now is done on screens. For that PDF is terrible. It's fixed
> format for printing. Instead, what is needed is mathematical
> typesetting that is free-flowing and adaptable to the screen it's
> read on (including a phone). Is there any work going on on that kind
> of standard?

Again, having a long memory of such things is useful.  Since TeX is
intended primarily for paper output, it took time to get someone
interested in exporting it to pdf, so it could be read on a screen.
Postscript seemed, back then, to be the preferred output (since
printers like that).  But what you are asking for is not a new
component for LyX, but a way to export to e-book formats, which would
be, basically, a dvi-to-(enter your e-book format) utility.  TeX may be
too wedded to page sizes and predetermined font sizes, but that also is
a TeX issue, it never has been a LyX issue.



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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: LyX on iPad

[David L. Johnson]

On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 19:41:54 -0600
Joel Kulesza  wrote:

> >> At one point, I wanted to create a couple of apps for Android.
> >> I've taught Java programming for a university; but, when I saw how
> >> much I would have to invest in learning the peculiarities of the
> >> Android interface, I lost nearly all of my interest in the two
> >> projects.  I assume that the demands of programming for iOS are
> >> similar.  
> > 
That is a disappointment.  Given Android's start as an offshoot of
linux, you would think it would be more straightforward.  This would
also enable (I think) LyX to run on netbooks, since AFAIK they are
Android machines --- and since they have real keyboards they would make
a usable platform.  I do believe TeX is available in some form.  I also
have no idea why porting to the iPad would be significantly harder than
a Mac.  I am, perhaps, too naive.

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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: \hat{x}_i

[David L. Johnson]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 03:14:59 -0700
Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan  wrote:

> A _pure_ LyX method is to select the hat box from the frame 
> decorations menu, enter the ‘x’, leave the hat box, then select 
> subscripts, and enter the ‘i’
> 
> But, really, I think that a mix of LaTeX and gooey LyX is a better
> way to go.  I'd probably use the method of Hal Kierstead.  Professor 
> Johnson's second method is fine too.

I would agree that a more LaTeX approach would be easiest, but I
usually find myself needing to add, or remove, an \overline{}
decoration, which is easier for me in the gooey fashion.  The only
problem with using LaTeX directly is that LyX puts you in that box, and
you have to know to get out of it.


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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: \hat{x}_i

[David L. Johnson]

On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 17:49:15 -0400
Neal Becker  wrote:

> How do I enter (without using raw TeX) 
> \hat{x}_i?
> 
> I seem to always end up with \hat{x_i}, which isn't the same (and
> doesn't look correct)

You have to be just a little careful.  You can either enter the x, then
highlight it and add in the \hat from the menu, then get out of that
box and enter the _i, or you can enter the x_i, highlight the x only,
and choose the \hat from the menu.  Since I don't always remember
quickly all of the commands for such decorations, it's easier for me to
do this than to use the keystrokes.  

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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Improvements to splitting math equation for multi-line?

[David L. Johnson]

On Sat, 19 May 2018 18:35:25 +0200
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <lasgout...@lyx.org> wrote:

> Le 19/05/2018 à 16:08, David L. Johnson a écrit :
> > I would prefer to have it go into the eqnarry environment rather
> > than AMS align, or at least default to three columns rather than 2,
> > with the = in the middle.  That way, following lines will have the
> > = sign aligned, which IMO is how it should be.  
> 
> I am not sure that I understand the argument. = signs are aligned
> with "align" environment, aren't they? And the extra spacing added by
> eqnarry is gone, which is a good thing IMO.
> 
> Could you give an example of what you do not like?

Attached.  I have two nonsense displayed equations.  The top is with
align, the bottom with eqnarray.  The extra spacing, as you call it,
justifies the two sides of the equation consistently with eqnarray.  I
think it's easier to read.


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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University


test1.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Improvements to splitting math equation for multi-line?

[David L. Johnson]

On Sat, 19 May 2018 11:14:16 -0400
Scott Kostyshak <skost...@lyx.org> wrote:

> > I would prefer to have it go into the eqnarry environment rather
> > than AMS align, or at least default to three columns rather than 2,
> > with the = in the middle.  That way, following lines will have the
> > = sign aligned, which IMO is how it should be.  
> 
> If you set amsmath to "Do not Load" in Document > Settings > Math
> Options, the default will be an eqnarray.

Well, I can't do that.

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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Improvements to splitting math equation for multi-line?

[David L. Johnson]

On Sat, 19 May 2018 01:04:31 -0400
Scott Kostyshak <skost...@lyx.org> wrote:

> When in a math display equation, if you press "ctrl + return", LyX
> will turn it into a multi-line equation. I think the default is an
> "align" environment. To do this, LyX tries "split" your current
> equation into two parts. For example, if the equation is:
> 
>   y = 3x + 5
> 
> LyX guesses that you want "y" on the left box, and "= 3x + 5" in the
> right box. In other words, it splits on the "=" sign.
> 
> Do you use this feature? Are there any improvements that you can think
> of? 

I would prefer to have it go into the eqnarry environment rather than
AMS align, or at least default to three columns rather than 2, with the
= in the middle.  That way, following lines will have the = sign
aligned, which IMO is how it should be.

 I haven't looked at the code yet, but I'm considering trying to
> improve the algorithm for splitting. My personal use case is that I
> often have expressions of the form
> 
>   P(X < 3) = 2
> 
> Currently LyX splits this on the "<". 

Well, you could prevent that by replacing "P(X<3)=2" with
"P\left(X<3\right)=2", which is easy to do in LyX.  It also looks
better.

 I would like to have
the
> algorithm prioritize a relation character that is outside of
> delimiters.

But LyX doesn't understand them as delimiters unless they are written
as such.


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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: \approx with /

[David L. Johnson]

On Tue, 15 May 2018 17:09:58 +0200
Wolfgang Engelmann <engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de> wrote:

> does anybody know how to produce the \approx (2 waves) with a / sign 
> going through it in LaTeX or LyX
> 
> Wolfgang?
> 
In LyX
\not then hit enter then \approx 

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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Change Latex Math Code

[David L. Johnson]

On 03/20/2018 03:39 PM, Baris Erkus wrote:


Hello,

Is there a way to change the latex math code in LyX by editing the code?

For example, if I enter a fraction in math environment using back 
slash  like \frac, is there a way to edit this Latex code and make it 
\dfrac simply by placing “d” in front of “f”?


Baris Erkus


Did you try entering \dfrac while in math mode?  It works for me.

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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: bbold

[David L. Johnson]

On 01/17/2018 07:46 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

Lyx offers mathbb
But il looks like that it does not belong to the package
bbold
seems this package is not installed.

My problem is that the package bbold gives me the symbol that I want (like 
\mathbb{1})
while, that I get by default with lyx is a bizarre symbol.
The thing to note is that \mathbb{} is only for capital letters. You do 
get strange symbols if you use it on lower-case letters. \mathbb{}, 
usually called "blackboard bold" gives a font similar to what we usually 
use on a chalkboard to indicate a bold letter, with doubled line 
segments.  Try \mathbb{R} for example.


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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Little Problem

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/31/2017 01:23 PM, Carlos Knauer wrote:

Good Afternon

How can I erase númber 6 in front of mqtrix at page 9 ? I am sending 
the file.


Thanks.

Carlos F. Knauer - Brazil

That number 6 is there because the environment for that matrix is 
"Section", which you don't want.  Make it "standard" and it will be fine.


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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: all-inclusive file format

[David L. Johnson]

On 07/28/2017 12:02 PM, Joe wrote:

Please please please don't make LyX more like Word. Please!


Amen.

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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Issues using lyx

[David L. Johnson]

On 06/22/2017 10:12 PM, Mr William Balthes wrote:



A suggestion from the list is that I use linux.


I know nothing about it.  Does it have automatic updates that you 
can't avoid where the system restarts.


No - at least not the version I use.  Each distribution has its own way 
of doing updates, but having the computer automatically update, and then 
re-starting, seems, well, stupid.



Is it more stable and do you avoid the crashes out of the blue and 
when selecting large amounts of text with the mouse.



I don't have any trouble with that.



Does linux still have back-ups and save temp files.

Sure, but everything is configurable.  There are advantages to linux: 
stability, speed (some programs), versatility.  When I started using 
TeX, the windows version was a complete mess.  Under linux, everything 
talked to everything else easily (a unix feature in general) and 
everything worked like it should.  Networking is part of the design, not 
a bunch of nonsense add-ons.  Security is far better.


There are, for some, disadvantages to linux as well: No Word (I regard 
this as a feature, not a problem), not many games.  The big commercial 
programs usually just ignore linux, except for Maple and Mathematica, 
and things like that.  You do kind of have to like fiddling with your 
computer to want linux on it.


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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Issues using lyx

[David L. Johnson]

On 06/17/2017 11:58 PM, Mr William Balthes wrote:


I am using lyx to write my thesis and having major problems.

The program continually crashes and mostly forms an emergency file but 
sometimes not.


The document seems to get messed up regardless.


I have never had any such problems, so let's find out what is going on.


The document class is American Mathematical Society (AMS) Article


Which I use all the time.



I can send a document sample if this helps

I would guess this is a configuration issue.  Are you new to LyX? Send 
me a minimal file that shows the problem.  One way to do that is to take 
the file that is causing problems, cut it in half, and see which half 
continues to be a problem.  Continue until you can isolate the problem 
area (and of course remove anything you want to keep private).  Send 
that to me.


Now, I don't use Windows, and have version 2.2.2 of LyX, but this would 
be a first test to see where the problem is.


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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Business card template

[David L. Johnson]

On 06/02/2017 09:23 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:
  A web search tells me there are a few LaTeX templates for business 
cards.
If you have experience using any of these in LyX please share your 
thoughts

with me.


I haven't used this for business cards, but I use glabels to print up 
nametags, placecards, and the like.  It is not TeX-based, but does well 
with graphics, and has a database of standard card formats which in my 
experience works well.  It handles graphics, and elements of text can be 
placed as needed.  In fact, now that I think of it, I think I will make 
up some business cards for myself using it.


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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: glossary sort as

[David L. Johnson]

On 03/31/2017 01:11 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:



Am 31.03.2017 um 18:37 schrieb David L. Johnson:

On 03/31/2017 10:53 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


I try to get an item starting with an Umlaut 'Ü' sorted under the 
appropriate place U and not at the end of the glossary. I added in 
this nomenclature item under */sort by/* an *U* hoping that it would 
now be correctly sorted. It does not (see appended lyx file).


I would appreciate a hint what I am doing wrong. I am using lyx 
2.2.0 under Debian. Do I need another package instead of 
nomenclature, which takes care of umlaute?



As a guess, since you probably use a font set that includes the 
Umlaut-U as a character, the glossary is sorting by the order that 
that symbol appears in the font.  You might try replacing that 
character by the TeX equivalent \"{U}  (in ERT) and see whether it is 
then properly alphabetized.

--
  
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University
Thanks, David, that did it. What about $Q_{10}$? It is sorted 
correctly, but the global


\renewcommand{\nomlabel}[1]{\textsf{\textbf{#1}}}

does not turn it into bold, nor does the individual \textbf{$Q_{10}$} 
do it.


Wolfgang


I'm glad I guessed right about the umlaut.  But for this I think there 
is a different problem.  \textbf{}  has, I believe, a problem with math 
mode.  Try $\mathbf{Q_{10}}$ instead -- or, equivalently, enter 
math-mode in LyX and type \mathbf (then space), and then Q_10 (space).


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David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: QUESTION & A REQUEST

[David L. Johnson]

On 03/23/2017 11:32 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 03/22/2017 02:25 PM, Bozdogan, Hamparsum (Ham) wrote:

I have installed LyX on my new PC laptop Win 10 system. This is the
new version 222.When I use the equation editor and the superscript for
minus (-) sign it gives me left-upward arrow. Do you know why this is
caused?

Are you sure you are using superscript? I get that symbol if I use the
script *font* and try to type a minus. How are you getting the superscript?
This problem occurs when the character you put the superscript on is a 
special type.  For example, I often use \mathbb{R}^n and terms like it.  
In LyX, if you type \mathbb  and hit space, or use the menu selection, 
you are put in that blackboard bold mode.  If you don't hit another 
space after the  R to get out of that mode --- there are red corners 
indicating the special mode on-screen --- then you actually are entering 
\mathbb{R^n}, and TeX gets very confused about what that n is.  With the 
tap on the spacebar, the red corners disappear and all works as it 
should.  The same holds for scripted characters like \mathcal{A}  and 
similar things.



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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: new operators in LyX?

[David L. Johnson]

On 02/24/2017 10:07 AM, Bernt Lie wrote:

I use LyX 2.2 on Win10.

I need to typeset the signum function as an operator. I have tried to insert 
"\mathop{sgn}", but this gives "sgn" in italic, and not in roman as it should.

Is there a syntax for this?

-Bernt


\rm{sgn}  ??

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Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Menu fonts

[David L. Johnson]

On 09/26/2016 09:09 AM, Daniel CLEMENT wrote:


With QT4 (no QT5 yet here) I can manage menu font sizes for QT apps with
the qtconfig-qt4 utility. It works well in XFCE.

However, AFAIK there's no QT5 counterpart (am I wrong?)

HTH,
I had a bad link to qtconfig, but when I installed qtconfig-qt4 it now 
works.  Excellent, thanks.  I can't imagine why that wasn't a part of 
the qt package in debian.  I can now read the menus.


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David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Menu fonts

[David L. Johnson]

I recommend compiling LyX 2.2.0 with Qt 5.6. The latter knows about
high-dpi monitors, and it uses the system settings to select the
appropriate magnification.
And what "system settings" allow me to change the fontsize globally?  I 
use xfce4, and have also been looking for that.

Have you tried
Right click on the menu panel and select Huge icons?

That changes the size of the icons, not the text of menus.

Menu fonts

[David L. Johnson]

I just recently got a tablet/laptop, an asus t300 chi.  I have managed 
to install debian testing on it, rather than whatever was there beforehand.


Most things are working great, but some, like LyX, do not make it easy 
to enlarge the menu fonts.  With a standard HD monitor, 1920x1080 in a 
12.6" size (32cm), and my cruddy vision, menu fonts are impossible.  I 
found advice to adjust the Qt fonts with "qtconfig" -- but the program 
does not exist (its a broken symlink).  The suggestions I read were from 
2010.  Does anyone have a more recent experience with this font 
problem?  I want to make all of the menu and related fonts considerably 
larger.  I am using LyX 2.2.0, with Qt 4.8.7, which is standard on 
debian testing.


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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Strange xxx-lyxformat-474.lyx files

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/02/2016 10:40 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Tue, 2 Aug 2016, David L. Johnson wrote:

These are being created since the files were edited by the new 
version of
LyX you installed, which uses a newer format. LyX then auto-saves 
them in

the old format so that you can edit it, if you need to, with an older
version of LyX. This seems to be a reasonable thing to do at the 
start of

a new format, and will not occur when you edit files using LyX-2.2 that
are already in the new format.


David,

  Thanks for the clarification. I don't recall seeing these files when
previous versions (from 1.0 on) were upgraded.


It was certainly not the case with every change of format --- and was 
probably added because someone got caught with a file they could not 
edit after going to a new version of LyX, then backing out of the 
upgrade for some reason.  I am not sure whether this feature had been 
added earlier --- I don't have such backups around except those created 
by lyx 2.2.



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David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Strange xxx-lyxformat-474.lyx files

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/02/2016 09:47 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Tue, 2 Aug 2016, Påvel Nicklasson wrote:

I work on several projects in LyX. Lately I have noticed that in the 
same
folders as my .lyx files there is a second file called 
-lyxformat-474.lyx.
For instance, if the regular file is called xxx.lyx. The second is 
called

xxx-lyxformat-474.lyx. The 474.lyx files seems to be old versions of the
regular files.


  I, too, have started to find these apparent backup files left in the
document directory when I exit lyx. It would be nice for them to be 
cleaned

up when the program exits, but I do it manually.

These are being created since the files were edited by the new version 
of LyX you installed, which uses a newer format.  LyX then auto-saves 
them in the old format so that you can edit it, if you need to, with an 
older version of LyX.  This seems to be a reasonable thing to do at the 
start of a new format, and will not occur when you edit files using 
LyX-2.2 that are already in the new format.


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David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: What happened to "print"?

[David L. Johnson]

On 07/17/2016 04:26 PM, David L. Johnson wrote:
When I upgraded to lyx 2.2.0 (which was when debian testing went to 
it) I lost the print menu.  I thought at first it was because my home 
computer uses an old printer, but the same thing is true on my office 
machine.  I could not find out anything about printing on the 
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX22 site, or anywhere else I looked.


Was there a decision to relegate printing (maybe just in linux) to 
programs handling the output files?  I can print fine viewing the 
output (using evince) and then printing from there, but lyx used to 
support printing directly.  Or, perhaps, something happened with the 
configuration, but I did not see anything about printing in the menus, 
or any mention of it.


Never mind, I guess.  I see it now in the release notes.  But it does 
seem odd to dump it entirely.  The argument that most people would want 
to preview the output first is not the way I work with it.  I often have 
a viewing window open, but in the past have opted to print directly from 
lyx.  In fact, on an earlier computer lyx was one of the few programs 
that would work with my legacy printer.


Oh well.  I will adapt, but I'd rather have the option.

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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

What happened to "print"?

[David L. Johnson]

When I upgraded to lyx 2.2.0 (which was when debian testing went to it) 
I lost the print menu.  I thought at first it was because my home 
computer uses an old printer, but the same thing is true on my office 
machine.  I could not find out anything about printing on the 
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX22 site, or anywhere else I looked.


Was there a decision to relegate printing (maybe just in linux) to 
programs handling the output files?  I can print fine viewing the output 
(using evince) and then printing from there, but lyx used to support 
printing directly.  Or, perhaps, something happened with the 
configuration, but I did not see anything about printing in the menus, 
or any mention of it.


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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: LyX 2.2 for Debian Jessie

[David L. Johnson]

On 07/15/2016 11:05 AM, David L. Johnson wrote:

On 07/15/2016 10:31 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:



On 15.07.2016 16:10, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:



On 15.07.2016 14:57, Guy Rutenberg wrote:
I've backported the LyX 2.2 package from Unstable to Jessie and 
thought it might be useful for others as well. Debs can be found in


https://www.guyrutenberg.com/debian/jessie/

Regards,
Guy

Thanks for it. I have installed your lyx-common_2.2.0-2_all.deb
Oh, this is it.  You have to also install lyx_2.2.0-2_amd64.deb. Just 
adding the common package does not force the installation of a 
particular binary.



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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: LyX 2.2 for Debian Jessie

[David L. Johnson]

On 07/15/2016 10:31 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:



On 15.07.2016 16:10, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:



On 15.07.2016 14:57, Guy Rutenberg wrote:
I've backported the LyX 2.2 package from Unstable to Jessie and 
thought it might be useful for others as well. Debs can be found in


https://www.guyrutenberg.com/debian/jessie/

Regards,
Guy

Thanks for it. I have installed your lyx-common_2.2.0-2_all.deb
Question 1: Should I have used lyx-dbg_2.2.0-2_amd64.deb instead (my 
PC is amd64)

Question 2: How do I find the installed lyx and how do I start it?
 lyx & tells me, the command was not found:
[2] 10975
[1]   Exit 127lyx
bash: lyx: Kommando nicht gefunden.
Question 3: Do I need also fonts_lyx and ttf-lyx 2.2.0-2?

Wolfgang


To question 2: I found the installed lyx in /usr/share/lyx
but how do I start it?
It should have installed the binary lyx in /usr/bin.  I am jumping into 
this in the middle, but if you installed things the debian way it should 
work properly.  You don't have to use the debugging version.  Let me 
know if I can help, as a long-time debian user.


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David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Inserting blackboard bold 1 in LyX

[David L. Johnson]

On 07/02/2016 11:15 PM, Jonathan Horton wrote:

To whom this may concern,

I want to insert a blackboard bold 1 in lyx (For the identity matrix) 
(Unicode: ퟙ), but I can't seem to find anyway to do it. I tried 
changing the encoding to the various unicode types in the document 
settings (Document->Settings->Language-Encoding-Other), but all of the 
encoding types produce errors. In LaTeX, typically dsfont is used, but 
\(\mathds{1}\) produces no result (within lyx).
But it does work on the output, right? At least, once you add 
\usepackage{dsfont} to the preamble.  Worked for me.


I could import the package in the preamble 
(Document>Settings>Preamble) via \usepackage{dsfont} (untested), but I 
would like to avoid the Evil Red Text.
I have never run into this, but I also never tried it.  You could use 
\mathbb{I} instead -- but the blackboard bolds within math mode, as far 
as I know, only apply to capital Roman letters (I use R, C, H, and Z all 
the time).



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Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Just upgraded to 2.2.0 on debian testing

[David L. Johnson]

Debian testing just included the upgrade to lyx 2.2.0.  I want to point 
out one thing:  If you don't see menu icons, you need to add the svg 
versions of the qt library (it may still be linked with qt-4.??, but 
looking for the svg libraries with apt-cache search found what I needed).


I have yet to check it all out, but I am absolutely floored by the 
scrolling ability in math eqnarray finally.  As one who never can keep 
the line length in check during the writing process, it is a blessing to 
be able to see the whole line.  Formerly I have had to either set the 
font really, really small or (more recently) stretch the window over two 
monitors.  This is a great advance; thanks to all who developed it.


I have yet to see what has changed with the beamer layout.  I hope it is 
not too much of a PITA to change old files to the new layout, since I 
have classes on Tuesday that I need it for.  I will find that out 
tomorrow


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Re: ClassicThesis

[David L. Johnson]

On 06/01/2016 11:31 AM, David L. Johnson wrote:

I apologize.  I must have butt-dialed that one.

C.  "  ,  cb.   " Poptropica the driveway


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Re: ClassicThesis

[David L. Johnson]

C.  "  ,  cb.   " Poptropica the driveway

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On June 1, 2016 10:31:14 AM Wolfgang Engelmann  
wrote:





On 01.06.2016 13:55, PhilipPirrip wrote:

On 05/31/2016 05:17 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


This I do not understand. Classicthesis language is set in English, why
is ngerman demanded? If I do need it, how do I load it?



There's a section in Abstract.lyx marked as German.



2- with biblatex_biber I do not get the bibliography in the pdf
printout.
What has to be done


Have you checked two simple examples from
http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex

Do they work? Do you have biber installed? All three engines (bibtex,
bibtex8, biber) work for me on linux, people had some issues with
biber on other OS.

Philipp,
I checked the http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex examples, both work.
So biber should work.
But classicthesis-LyX-v4.2_biblatex_biber does not produce the
References in the pdf output (the page stays empty) and gives no error
message for it (there is an error "unknown float option 'H' -ignored, p
used - which is unimportant for me).
The classicthesis-LyX-v4.2_biblatex_bibtex example works and produces
the References in the output.
Could you or somebody else kindly check whether
classicthesis-LyX-v4.2_biblatex_biber works?
Wolfgang

Re: Automatic save of LaTeX

[David L. Johnson]

On 04/06/2016 06:12 PM, Anders Host-Madsen wrote:


Update. If I run

command-sequence buffer-write; buffer-export pdf2; buffer-export pdflatex

It sometimes make LyX hang. If I run

command-sequence buffer-write; buffer-export pdflatex; buffer-export pdf2

sometimes the pdf export doesn't happen. So, neither quite work.

I have a strong feeling it has to do with how long the commands take to run.
On my iMac, which has a slow spinning HD, I get more trouble than on my
MacBook, which has an SSD.

I would think that the second sequence would have the least trouble with 
LyX not waiting for a command to finish, since the first two commands 
are (I thought) internal to LyX itself.  The pdf generation calls 
external programs, LaTeX of course, then something like dvipdf, so once 
it's in the pipeline sometimes the shell might think the command is 
complete and then let LyX run the next process.  That may cause the hang 
you mentioned, but does not explain the problem with the second sequence.


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Re: Automatic save of LaTeX

[David L. Johnson]

On 04/06/2016 10:05 AM, Anders Host-Madsen wrote:

Anders Host-Madsen  yahoo.com> writes:



I can only say that so far it works for me. I assigned

command-sequence buffer-write; buffer-export pdflatex; buffer-export pdf2

to a key (control-command-S), and it works as intended. I'm using a mac.




I do have one issue, though. Sometimes the third part is not executed,
so the updated pdf is not saved. I don't see the pattern in when it's
  executed, and when it's not.

I notice that, when I export repeatedly to pdf, the command will 
actually run and the pdf will not update unless the buffer has been 
changed.  So that's probably why your pdf doesn't always run --- you 
have to change the document, then it will all run.


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Re: Updating TexLive from Ubuntu/Mint

[David L. Johnson]

On 03/21/2016 11:20 AM, UD wrote:
This is not a new topic, and this is probably not the right place to 
ask, but
how do I update TexLive in Ubuntu (15.10) or Mint (17.3)?  When 
TexLive is installed via Ubuntu, there is no package manager, and 
Ubuntu discourages package management that is done outside of its own 
package management.
I don't know that much about Ubuntu, except that it is debian based (as 
is Mint, isn't it?).  I can't imagine why Ubuntu's update path, with or 
without a package management program, would not keep TeXlive fairly well 
up-to-date.  How do you go about updating Ubuntu?  For debian "apt-get 
update; apt-get upgrade" works perfectly well.


You need to find someone (maybe someone on this list) who is 
knowledgeable about Ubuntu, and find out how to upgrade in general. If 
that is not forthcoming then you should find a distribution (such as 
"real" debian) that allows easy updates.


On the other hand, TeXlive (how do they spell/capitalize that, anyway?) 
is quite mature by now, and not much changes between updates.  What is 
it that you can't do with the version you have (and which version is it?)?



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Re: I can't open old Lyx files

[David L. Johnson]

On 03/02/2016 01:39 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Wed, Mar 02, 2016 at 02:27:14PM +, Aron Toth wrote:

Hi,

Currently I am using Lyx 2.1 on Windows 7 (Enterprise). I cannot open old Lyx 
files. I can't remember in which Lyx version they were edited last, but the 
last time I edited them was two years ago... I would really need to access 
these files, so your help would be much appreciated.

Thanks, Áron

PS: I am not a techy guy...


Hi Áron,

Thank you

When reporting problems like these, it's always helpful if you are
specific. When you say "I cannot open old Lyx files", that doesn't give
us much information to go off of. Why can't you open old LyX files? LyX
does not open? Or it opens and gives an error? How exactly are you
opening the LyX files from within LyX using File > Open or are you
double-clicking them in your file browser?

Also when giving a bug report, it's useful to say what your operating
system is and what the version of your operating system is. For example,
I'm using Ubuntu 15.04.
He did mention that he was using Windows 7.  However, the suggestion 
that he provide more detail about what happened when he tried to open 
the files is helpful.  BTW, I have no trouble opening 10+ -year old 
files, so there is something amiss.


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Department of Mathematics
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Re: Insert Tex Code

[David L. Johnson]

On 09/18/2015 09:40 AM, Sajjad wrote:

Hello forum,

I am trying to insert TeX code directly from the LyX interface 
Insert->Tex Code . Then I see a box in the editor. Inside the box I 
entered the following:


\sqrt A-B
But that is not correct TeX code.  If you were to write that in an 
editor and tried to run TeX, you would get the same error.  If you 
write, in the box, (as TeX claims it will do in that error message) 
$\sqrt A-B$ you would not get an error, but you would also not get what 
I suspect you want.  The $s put it in math mode for TeX.  To get the 
square root of the difference, write  $\sqrt{A-B}$. Alternately, go to 
Math mode in LyX, rather than TeX mode, and enter \sqrt .  If you then 
hit the space bar, you see a little blue square root sign, with a blue 
box inside, and the cursor in the box. Then enter A-B.  Easier, and you 
see what you will get.



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Re: utopia mathdesign

[David L. Johnson]

On 09/02/2015 05:04 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

When I compile this piece of lyx, I get an error message:
!pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file texnansi.enc): cannot open encoding file for read
ing
==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

because utopia mathdesign

Can somebody tell me why?
The error message seems to say that TeX did not find texnansi.enc, so I 
would assume that was the problem.  I tired your file and it compiled 
correctly for me.  I also did find texnansi.enc, so it is likely to be a 
problem with your TeX distribution.  I use LyX 2.1.3 with debian, and 
texlive.


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Re: Poesse era se me form the list

[David L. Johnson]

On 06/17/2015 09:02 PM, Itai Shaked wrote:
I actually have the same problem. I have tried this numerous times, 
but I always get the same reply:


I'm sorry, I've been unable to carry out your request,
since the address

itai.sha...@mail.huji.ac.il mailto:itai.sha...@mail.huji.ac.il

was not on the lyx-users mailing list when I received
your request and is not a subscriber of this list.

Which is strange, because I keep getting list messages to the very 
same address. There seems to be something broken with the 
unsubcscribing mechanic.
Or, perhaps, you have more than one e-mail address, or perhaps an alias, 
and you are responding from the other address?  This happens to me quite 
often, since my account has an alias, and I forget which version (dlj0@  
or david.johnson@) I used to sign up.



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Re: Poesse era se me form the list

[David L. Johnson]

On 06/17/2015 09:02 PM, Itai Shaked wrote:
I actually have the same problem. I have tried this numerous times, 
but I always get the same reply:


I'm sorry, I've been unable to carry out your request,
since the address

itai.sha...@mail.huji.ac.il mailto:itai.sha...@mail.huji.ac.il

was not on the lyx-users mailing list when I received
your request and is not a subscriber of this list.

Which is strange, because I keep getting list messages to the very 
same address. There seems to be something broken with the 
unsubcscribing mechanic.
Or, perhaps, you have more than one e-mail address, or perhaps an alias, 
and you are responding from the other address?  This happens to me quite 
often, since my account has an alias, and I forget which version (dlj0@  
or david.johnson@) I used to sign up.



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Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Poesse era se me form the list

[David L. Johnson]

On 06/17/2015 09:02 PM, Itai Shaked wrote:
I actually have the same problem. I have tried this numerous times, 
but I always get the same reply:


"I'm sorry, I've been unable to carry out your request,
since the address

itai.sha...@mail.huji.ac.il <mailto:itai.sha...@mail.huji.ac.il>

was not on the lyx-users mailing list when I received
your request and is not a subscriber of this list."

Which is strange, because I keep getting list messages to the very 
same address. There seems to be something broken with the 
unsubcscribing mechanic.
Or, perhaps, you have more than one e-mail address, or perhaps an alias, 
and you are responding from the other address?  This happens to me quite 
often, since my account has an alias, and I forget which version (dlj0@  
or david.johnson@) I used to sign up.



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Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Compatibility Mac - Linux

[David L. Johnson]

On 05/06/2015 02:26 PM, Ygo Kanaki wrote:

The main reason why me and my colleagues switched from  MS-Word to Lyx is the
problems we had with all the different Office versions, and problem we had
opening Word-files in OpenOffice, etcetera. That was why we use Lyx.

Today I get a .lyx file from a colleague with a Mac. I try to open the Lyx
file, and I get this error message:

/mnt/sda1/Dropbox/lithouse_shared_folder/Offers quotes prospects that we are
working on/Jolly_X/20150506/offer_27.11.2013.lyx is from a newer version of
LyX and the lyx2lyx script failed to convert it.

So I try to update my Lyx on Ubuntu 14.04 to a later version, but there is
nothing to update. I have the most recent version (2.0.6 from April 2013)
while my colleague has 2.1.2.2. from November 2014. I am out of luck.

We're on Openoffice again. :(


There is no reason to do that.  The problem is with Ubuntu --- or your 
version of it.  Certainly they have an updated version of LyX. If not, 
get it from the LyX archive.  If you want to go back to Openoffice, that 
is one thing, but this is not an obstacle.  Just upgrade your LyX 
version, and there are many ways to do that.


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Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Compatibility Mac - Linux

[David L. Johnson]

On 05/06/2015 02:26 PM, Ygo Kanaki wrote:

The main reason why me and my colleagues switched from  MS-Word to Lyx is the
problems we had with all the different Office versions, and problem we had
opening Word-files in OpenOffice, etcetera. That was why we use Lyx.

Today I get a .lyx file from a colleague with a Mac. I try to open the Lyx
file, and I get this error message:

/mnt/sda1/Dropbox/lithouse_shared_folder/Offers quotes prospects that we are
working on/Jolly_X/20150506/offer_27.11.2013.lyx is from a newer version of
LyX and the lyx2lyx script failed to convert it.

So I try to update my Lyx on Ubuntu 14.04 to a later version, but there is
nothing to update. I have the most recent version (2.0.6 from April 2013)
while my colleague has 2.1.2.2. from November 2014. I am out of luck.

We're on Openoffice again. :(


There is no reason to do that.  The problem is with Ubuntu --- or your 
version of it.  Certainly they have an updated version of LyX. If not, 
get it from the LyX archive.  If you want to go back to Openoffice, that 
is one thing, but this is not an obstacle.  Just upgrade your LyX 
version, and there are many ways to do that.


--
 
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Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Compatibility Mac - Linux

[David L. Johnson]

On 05/06/2015 02:26 PM, Ygo Kanaki wrote:

The main reason why me and my colleagues switched from  MS-Word to Lyx is the
problems we had with all the different Office versions, and problem we had
opening Word-files in OpenOffice, etcetera. That was why we use Lyx.

Today I get a .lyx file from a colleague with a Mac. I try to open the Lyx
file, and I get this error message:

"/mnt/sda1/Dropbox/lithouse_shared_folder/Offers quotes prospects that we are
working on/Jolly_X/20150506/offer_27.11.2013.lyx is from a newer version of
LyX and the lyx2lyx script failed to convert it."

So I try to update my Lyx on Ubuntu 14.04 to a later version, but there is
nothing to update. I have the most recent version (2.0.6 from April 2013)
while my colleague has 2.1.2.2. from November 2014. I am out of luck.

We're on Openoffice again. :(


There is no reason to do that.  The problem is with Ubuntu --- or your 
version of it.  Certainly they have an updated version of LyX. If not, 
get it from the LyX archive.  If you want to go back to Openoffice, that 
is one thing, but this is not an obstacle.  Just upgrade your LyX 
version, and there are many ways to do that.


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Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Greek characters in Lyx Beamer

[David L. Johnson]

On 01/21/2015 12:14 PM, Jacob Bishop wrote:



- InsertMathInline Formula = works, but characters are slanted

As a workaround, you can use \mathrm{} in math mode to make the 
characters upright. This is a hack, but if I understand your plight 
correctly, it should produce the desired output.


Well, this would work for a few isolated Greek letters, but the spacing 
is different, particularly between words, and line lengths can be 
messy.  I real Greek solution would be best.  Unfortunately, I can't 
help with making that work.


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Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Greek characters in Lyx Beamer

[David L. Johnson]

On 01/21/2015 12:14 PM, Jacob Bishop wrote:



- InsertMathInline Formula = works, but characters are slanted

As a workaround, you can use \mathrm{} in math mode to make the 
characters upright. This is a hack, but if I understand your plight 
correctly, it should produce the desired output.


Well, this would work for a few isolated Greek letters, but the spacing 
is different, particularly between words, and line lengths can be 
messy.  I real Greek solution would be best.  Unfortunately, I can't 
help with making that work.


--
 
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Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Greek characters in Lyx Beamer

[David L. Johnson]

On 01/21/2015 12:14 PM, Jacob Bishop wrote:



- Insert>Math>Inline Formula = works, but characters are slanted

As a workaround, you can use \mathrm{} in math mode to make the 
characters upright. This is a hack, but if I understand your plight 
correctly, it should produce the desired output.


Well, this would work for a few isolated Greek letters, but the spacing 
is different, particularly between words, and line lengths can be 
messy.  I real Greek solution would be best.  Unfortunately, I can't 
help with making that work.


--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Problem in starting Lyx

[David L. Johnson]

On 10/30/2014 07:59 AM, Atanu Ghosh wrote:

Hi,

I am a user of Lyx ( in Ubuntu 12.04) for a year. My lyx was working 
fine but suddenly it got crashed and when I tried to restart it , the 
program did not respond. I unistalled Lyx and reinstalled it following 
the instructions in http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu.


But now when I am attempting to start Lyx, in the terminal it shows 
the following error message:


Warning: Could not read configuration file

Error while reading the configuration file
preferences.
Please check your installation.
My guess would be that somehow your configuration file got corrupted.  
LyX will generate a new one, though, if you just get rid of, or rename, 
the directory $(HOME)/.lyx  Then it should start and search your system, 
setting up your configuration based on what programs and defaults you have.



--
 
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Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Lyx window exceeds screen size

[David L. Johnson]

On 10/30/2014 01:42 PM, Atanu Ghosh wrote:

Hi

I am a user of Lyx in my netbook for the past one year. But recently I 
noticed that many windows in Lyx launch to a size that is larger than 
my netbook screen. As a result I cannot use the Ok button to confirm 
my changes/ customizations. Further these windows does not allow 
resizing.
You probably had opened that file on a machine with a larger screen 
earlier.  It will often open in that same size the next time it is run.  
But there is a trick to use on your laptop (this may vary with your 
GUI).  Click on the window while holding down the ALT key, then move the 
mouse.  The window should move.  Then you can find the OK button and 
resizing tabs.


I faced it specially with the preferences  option in Tool menu   
and when I want to insert any citation from the Insert -Citation  
option.
Ah, these never allow resizing.  Again, ALT+Left click-hold and drag 
should work.


Please suggest me some way so that I can insert citation in the 
documents or can resize that window.



Thanks in advance
-Atanu



--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Problem in starting Lyx

[David L. Johnson]

On 10/30/2014 07:59 AM, Atanu Ghosh wrote:

Hi,

I am a user of Lyx ( in Ubuntu 12.04) for a year. My lyx was working 
fine but suddenly it got crashed and when I tried to restart it , the 
program did not respond. I unistalled Lyx and reinstalled it following 
the instructions in http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu.


But now when I am attempting to start Lyx, in the terminal it shows 
the following error message:


Warning: Could not read configuration file

Error while reading the configuration file
preferences.
Please check your installation.
My guess would be that somehow your configuration file got corrupted.  
LyX will generate a new one, though, if you just get rid of, or rename, 
the directory $(HOME)/.lyx  Then it should start and search your system, 
setting up your configuration based on what programs and defaults you have.



--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Lyx window exceeds screen size

[David L. Johnson]

On 10/30/2014 01:42 PM, Atanu Ghosh wrote:

Hi

I am a user of Lyx in my netbook for the past one year. But recently I 
noticed that many windows in Lyx launch to a size that is larger than 
my netbook screen. As a result I cannot use the Ok button to confirm 
my changes/ customizations. Further these windows does not allow 
resizing.
You probably had opened that file on a machine with a larger screen 
earlier.  It will often open in that same size the next time it is run.  
But there is a trick to use on your laptop (this may vary with your 
GUI).  Click on the window while holding down the ALT key, then move the 
mouse.  The window should move.  Then you can find the OK button and 
resizing tabs.


I faced it specially with the preferences  option in Tool menu   
and when I want to insert any citation from the Insert -Citation  
option.
Ah, these never allow resizing.  Again, ALT+Left click-hold and drag 
should work.


Please suggest me some way so that I can insert citation in the 
documents or can resize that window.



Thanks in advance
-Atanu



--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Problem in starting Lyx

[David L. Johnson]

On 10/30/2014 07:59 AM, Atanu Ghosh wrote:

Hi,

I am a user of Lyx ( in Ubuntu 12.04) for a year. My lyx was working 
fine but suddenly it got crashed and when I tried to restart it , the 
program did not respond. I unistalled Lyx and reinstalled it following 
the instructions in http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu.


But now when I am attempting to start Lyx, in the terminal it shows 
the following error message:


Warning: Could not read configuration file

Error while reading the configuration file
preferences.
Please check your installation.
My guess would be that somehow your configuration file got corrupted.  
LyX will generate a new one, though, if you just get rid of, or rename, 
the directory $(HOME)/.lyx  Then it should start and search your system, 
setting up your configuration based on what programs and defaults you have.



--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Lyx window exceeds screen size

[David L. Johnson]

On 10/30/2014 01:42 PM, Atanu Ghosh wrote:

Hi

I am a user of Lyx in my netbook for the past one year. But recently I 
noticed that many windows in Lyx launch to a size that is larger than 
my netbook screen. As a result I cannot use the "Ok" button to confirm 
my changes/ customizations. Further these windows does not allow 
resizing.
You probably had opened that file on a machine with a larger screen 
earlier.  It will often open in that same size the next time it is run.  
But there is a trick to use on your laptop (this may vary with your 
GUI).  Click on the window while holding down the ALT key, then move the 
mouse.  The window should move.  Then you can find the OK button and 
resizing tabs.


I faced it specially with the "preferences " option in "Tool" menu   
and when I want to insert any citation from the "Insert -Citation " 
option.
Ah, these never allow resizing.  Again, ALT+Left click-hold and drag 
should work.


Please suggest me some way so that I can insert citation in the 
documents or can resize that window.



Thanks in advance
-Atanu



--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: help installing 2.1.x on Debian

[David L. Johnson]

The unstable branch now has either 2.1.1 or 2.1.2.  You can just manually 
install that.


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On October 17, 2014 8:22:17 AM renato renato.pontef...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,
can someone help me to install lyx 2.1.x on
my Debian Jessie pc?
I saw, that on ubuntu this can be done.
So, I'm looking for repo to use with Debian

TIA

Renato

Re: help installing 2.1.x on Debian

[David L. Johnson]

The unstable branch now has either 2.1.1 or 2.1.2.  You can just manually 
install that.


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On October 17, 2014 8:22:17 AM renato renato.pontef...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,
can someone help me to install lyx 2.1.x on
my Debian Jessie pc?
I saw, that on ubuntu this can be done.
So, I'm looking for repo to use with Debian

TIA

Renato

Re: help installing 2.1.x on Debian

[David L. Johnson]

The unstable branch now has either 2.1.1 or 2.1.2.  You can just manually 
install that.


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On October 17, 2014 8:22:17 AM renato <renato.pontef...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi,
can someone help me to install lyx 2.1.x on
my Debian Jessie pc?
I saw, that on ubuntu this can be done.
So, I'm looking for repo to use with Debian

TIA

Renato

Re: Lyx 2.1.2 same prob of other version. What is the problem?

[David L. Johnson]

On 10/08/2014 03:55 PM, renato wrote:


Hi,

updating my source.list (on Debian Jessie), I' ve installed the 
version on object, with apt-get. So, I think the version is really 
standard.


I don't understand what you mean here.  In debian Jessie, 2.0.6 is the 
current version of LyX.  They are well shy of 2.1.2.


But, also with this version, I'm unable to create any document.

I think the problem could be on the various path.

You need to provide more information before anyone can help.  What makes 
you think it is a path problem?  Debian is pretty good at getting that 
set up correctly.  What was your first error message.


Can someone help me? I'm soo really discouraged :-(



You can send me questions off list.  I don't use the debian version of 
lyx since it is too outdated, but I have used debian and lyx for a long 
time.


--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Lyx 2.1.2 same prob of other version. What is the problem?

[David L. Johnson]

On 10/08/2014 03:55 PM, renato wrote:


Hi,

updating my source.list (on Debian Jessie), I' ve installed the 
version on object, with apt-get. So, I think the version is really 
standard.


I don't understand what you mean here.  In debian Jessie, 2.0.6 is the 
current version of LyX.  They are well shy of 2.1.2.


But, also with this version, I'm unable to create any document.

I think the problem could be on the various path.

You need to provide more information before anyone can help.  What makes 
you think it is a path problem?  Debian is pretty good at getting that 
set up correctly.  What was your first error message.


Can someone help me? I'm soo really discouraged :-(



You can send me questions off list.  I don't use the debian version of 
lyx since it is too outdated, but I have used debian and lyx for a long 
time.


--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Lyx 2.1.2 same prob of other version. What is the problem?

[David L. Johnson]

On 10/08/2014 03:55 PM, renato wrote:


Hi,

updating my source.list (on Debian Jessie), I' ve installed the 
version on object, with apt-get. So, I think the version is really 
standard.


I don't understand what you mean here.  In debian Jessie, 2.0.6 is the 
current version of LyX.  They are well shy of 2.1.2.


But, also with this version, I'm unable to create any document.

I think the problem could be on the various path.

You need to provide more information before anyone can help.  What makes 
you think it is a path problem?  Debian is pretty good at getting that 
set up correctly.  What was your first error message.


Can someone help me? I'm soo really discouraged :-(



You can send me questions off list.  I don't use the debian version of 
lyx since it is too outdated, but I have used debian and lyx for a long 
time.


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Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: compiled lyx 2.1.1 has not spellchecker

[David L. Johnson]

On 09/07/2014 10:16 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:
I have a computer with a fresh debian 7.6 installed, and I configured 
and compiled lyx 2.1.1 without problems, (I have installed aspell and 
dictionaries).

But no spell checker does not appear in the corresponding menu lyx.
How I can get it?
You need to have the aspell development libraries available, or the 
configure script will leave spellchecking out.  I had that problem, as 
well.  But it does say something about that in the INSTALL file that 
comes with the sources.


--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: compiled lyx 2.1.1 has not spellchecker

[David L. Johnson]

On 09/07/2014 10:16 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:
I have a computer with a fresh debian 7.6 installed, and I configured 
and compiled lyx 2.1.1 without problems, (I have installed aspell and 
dictionaries).

But no spell checker does not appear in the corresponding menu lyx.
How I can get it?
You need to have the aspell development libraries available, or the 
configure script will leave spellchecking out.  I had that problem, as 
well.  But it does say something about that in the INSTALL file that 
comes with the sources.


--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: compiled lyx 2.1.1 has not spellchecker

[David L. Johnson]

On 09/07/2014 10:16 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:
I have a computer with a fresh debian 7.6 installed, and I configured 
and compiled lyx 2.1.1 without problems, (I have installed aspell and 
dictionaries).

But no spell checker does not appear in the corresponding menu lyx.
How I can get it?
You need to have the aspell development libraries available, or the 
configure script will leave spellchecking out.  I had that problem, as 
well.  But it does say something about that in the INSTALL file that 
comes with the sources.


--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Opening beamer with Lyx 2.1

[David L. Johnson]

On 09/04/2014 03:34 PM, Rudi Gaelzer wrote:

I'm facing the same problem with a beamer presentation created with LyX 2.0 
(\lyxformat 413).
Now, I have version 2.1.1 but I get the same crash message.
I have had several similar incidents, but I have also managed to 
successfully convert dozens of older beamer files to 2.1 --- usually 
with no problems at all.


Here is what I found:  The files that I had trouble with all had 
hand-built blocks in them (such as adding a Remark block or something 
like that, to the ones that are available by default). The old format 
for blocks does not get translated to the new one.


I could get the files to load by eliminating the old blocks.  There is a 
new block environment, so you could put them back into the format that 
you want.


The old beamer class was quite a hack.  This new one does seem to be 
more reasonable, although it takes some getting used to, and the nesting 
issues could be handled better.  Given the variability of how blocks may 
have been built up on your old files, getting a converter to handle them 
all may be difficult.


--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Opening beamer with Lyx 2.1

[David L. Johnson]

On 09/04/2014 03:34 PM, Rudi Gaelzer wrote:

I'm facing the same problem with a beamer presentation created with LyX 2.0 
(\lyxformat 413).
Now, I have version 2.1.1 but I get the same crash message.
I have had several similar incidents, but I have also managed to 
successfully convert dozens of older beamer files to 2.1 --- usually 
with no problems at all.


Here is what I found:  The files that I had trouble with all had 
hand-built blocks in them (such as adding a Remark block or something 
like that, to the ones that are available by default). The old format 
for blocks does not get translated to the new one.


I could get the files to load by eliminating the old blocks.  There is a 
new block environment, so you could put them back into the format that 
you want.


The old beamer class was quite a hack.  This new one does seem to be 
more reasonable, although it takes some getting used to, and the nesting 
issues could be handled better.  Given the variability of how blocks may 
have been built up on your old files, getting a converter to handle them 
all may be difficult.


--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Opening beamer with Lyx 2.1

[David L. Johnson]

On 09/04/2014 03:34 PM, Rudi Gaelzer wrote:

I'm facing the same problem with a beamer presentation created with LyX 2.0 
(\lyxformat 413).
Now, I have version 2.1.1 but I get the same crash message.
I have had several similar incidents, but I have also managed to 
successfully convert dozens of older beamer files to 2.1 --- usually 
with no problems at all.


Here is what I found:  The files that I had trouble with all had 
hand-built blocks in them (such as adding a Remark block or something 
like that, to the ones that are available by default). The old format 
for blocks does not get translated to the new one.


I could get the files to load by eliminating the old blocks.  There is a 
new block environment, so you could put them back into the format that 
you want.


The old beamer class was quite a hack.  This new one does seem to be 
more reasonable, although it takes some getting used to, and the nesting 
issues could be handled better.  Given the variability of how blocks may 
have been built up on your old files, getting a converter to handle them 
all may be difficult.


--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: frage

[David L. Johnson]

It's  easy to assign any command or keystrokes to, say, function keys or 
Alt-Key combinations.  You only need the \ss, \{a}, etc., which is not so 
many to deal with.  I would probably set it up within ERT, but you can also 
find the appropriate text-based codes.


--

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Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University


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On August 20, 2014 7:30:26 AM Dr Eberhard Lisse nos...@lisse.na wrote:


I also write on and off German language texts, and though I have a
German Mac keyboard as spare at home and will connect it if I write
something long, I really would like to be able to easily/quickly
type the German Umlaute in lower and Upper case on the standard (US)
keybopard.

Alt-s is helpful, but I can't find the others.

ERT is not only Evil, it also takes 4-5 Keystrokes for the price of
one :-)-O

Any ideas, perhaps for assignments to key combinations?

greetings, el

on 2014-08-19, 21:09 David L. Johnson said the following:
 On 08/19/2014 10:33 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:
 Am 19.08.2014 um 16:08 schrieb Volker Steinbach
 steine...@gmail.com:

 no joke : i wanted to know if there is a cheap solution tothe
 problem : in german, we had a character called 'eszet' or sharp
 s.  it looks almost like a greek beta.  i wondered if there is a
 latex sign (beginning with \) that prints it.  i remember thirty
 years ago i could use \3 for it !  thats it.
 And you don't have a keyboard with an ß ?

 In case you're using LyX you shouldn't have a problem to get it
 printed after you successfully typed it.  Ok, there are some
 problematic languages, but with german I don't know any.
 Try \ss, making it TeX mode, or what we call ERT.

Re: frage

[David L. Johnson]

It's  easy to assign any command or keystrokes to, say, function keys or 
Alt-Key combinations.  You only need the \ss, \{a}, etc., which is not so 
many to deal with.  I would probably set it up within ERT, but you can also 
find the appropriate text-based codes.


--

David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University


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On August 20, 2014 7:30:26 AM Dr Eberhard Lisse nos...@lisse.na wrote:


I also write on and off German language texts, and though I have a
German Mac keyboard as spare at home and will connect it if I write
something long, I really would like to be able to easily/quickly
type the German Umlaute in lower and Upper case on the standard (US)
keybopard.

Alt-s is helpful, but I can't find the others.

ERT is not only Evil, it also takes 4-5 Keystrokes for the price of
one :-)-O

Any ideas, perhaps for assignments to key combinations?

greetings, el

on 2014-08-19, 21:09 David L. Johnson said the following:
 On 08/19/2014 10:33 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:
 Am 19.08.2014 um 16:08 schrieb Volker Steinbach
 steine...@gmail.com:

 no joke : i wanted to know if there is a cheap solution tothe
 problem : in german, we had a character called 'eszet' or sharp
 s.  it looks almost like a greek beta.  i wondered if there is a
 latex sign (beginning with \) that prints it.  i remember thirty
 years ago i could use \3 for it !  thats it.
 And you don't have a keyboard with an ß ?

 In case you're using LyX you shouldn't have a problem to get it
 printed after you successfully typed it.  Ok, there are some
 problematic languages, but with german I don't know any.
 Try \ss, making it TeX mode, or what we call ERT.

Re: frage

[David L. Johnson]

It's  easy to assign any command or keystrokes to, say, function keys or 
Alt-Key combinations.  You only need the \ss, \"{a}, etc., which is not so 
many to deal with.  I would probably set it up within ERT, but you can also 
find the appropriate text-based codes.


--

David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University


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On August 20, 2014 7:30:26 AM Dr Eberhard Lisse <nos...@lisse.na> wrote:


I also write on and off German language texts, and though I have a
German Mac keyboard as spare at home and will connect it if I write
something long, I really would like to be able to easily/quickly
type the German Umlaute in lower and Upper case on the standard (US)
keybopard.

Alt-s is helpful, but I can't find the others.

ERT is not only Evil, it also takes 4-5 Keystrokes for the price of
one :-)-O

Any ideas, perhaps for assignments to key combinations?

greetings, el

on 2014-08-19, 21:09 David L. Johnson said the following:
> On 08/19/2014 10:33 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:
>> Am 19.08.2014 um 16:08 schrieb Volker Steinbach
>> <steine...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> no joke : i wanted to know if there is a cheap solution tothe
>>> problem : in german, we had a character called 'eszet' or sharp
>>> s.  it looks almost like a greek beta.  i wondered if there is a
>>> latex sign (beginning with \) that prints it.  i remember thirty
>>> years ago i could use \3 for it !  thats it.
>> And you don't have a keyboard with an "ß" ?
>>
>> In case you're using LyX you shouldn't have a problem to get it
>> printed after you successfully typed it.  Ok, there are some
>> problematic languages, but with german I don't know any.
> Try \ss, making it "TeX mode", or what we call ERT.
>

Re: frage

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/19/2014 10:33 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 19.08.2014 um 16:08 schrieb Volker Steinbach steine...@gmail.com:


no joke : i wanted to know if there is a cheap solution
tothe problem : in german, we had a character called 'eszet'
or sharp s. it looks almost like a greek beta. i wondered if there
is a latex sign (beginning with \) that prints it.
i remember thirty years ago i could use \3 for it !
thats it.

And you don't have a keyboard with an ß ?

In case you're using LyX you shouldn't have a problem to get it printed after 
you successfully typed it.
Ok, there are some problematic languages, but with german I don't know any.

Try \ss, making it TeX mode, or what we call ERT.

--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: frage

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/19/2014 10:33 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 19.08.2014 um 16:08 schrieb Volker Steinbach steine...@gmail.com:


no joke : i wanted to know if there is a cheap solution
tothe problem : in german, we had a character called 'eszet'
or sharp s. it looks almost like a greek beta. i wondered if there
is a latex sign (beginning with \) that prints it.
i remember thirty years ago i could use \3 for it !
thats it.

And you don't have a keyboard with an ß ?

In case you're using LyX you shouldn't have a problem to get it printed after 
you successfully typed it.
Ok, there are some problematic languages, but with german I don't know any.

Try \ss, making it TeX mode, or what we call ERT.

--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: frage

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/19/2014 10:33 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 19.08.2014 um 16:08 schrieb Volker Steinbach <steine...@gmail.com>:


no joke : i wanted to know if there is a cheap solution
tothe problem : in german, we had a character called 'eszet'
or sharp s. it looks almost like a greek beta. i wondered if there
is a latex sign (beginning with \) that prints it.
i remember thirty years ago i could use \3 for it !
thats it.

And you don't have a keyboard with an "ß" ?

In case you're using LyX you shouldn't have a problem to get it printed after 
you successfully typed it.
Ok, there are some problematic languages, but with german I don't know any.

Try \ss, making it "TeX mode", or what we call ERT.

--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Probleme mit Sonderzeichen

[David L. Johnson]

In math-mode, enter the F. Highlight that F. Then, look on the menu at the 
bottom of the screen, for a dotted square with a hat on top. It will open 
up a menu with a choice of decorations you can add, including the hat you 
need. There are two types, smaller and larger.


HTH.

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Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University


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On June 16, 2014 8:54:35 AM Martin Tamms martin.ta...@googlemail.com wrote:


Sehr geehrtes Lyx-Team,



ich muss im Rahmen meiner Seminararbeit den Ausdruck „ein großes F mit 
einem Hut drauf“ verwenden in einer Mathe-Umgebung.


Ich finde leider diesen Ausdruck nicht, er ist zwar für die Buchstaben 
A,E,G usw. vorhanden (ÂÊĜ), aber nicht für F.




Können Sie mir weiterhelfen?



Vielen Dank und mit freundlichen Grüßen,



Martin Tamms

Re: Probleme mit Sonderzeichen

[David L. Johnson]

In math-mode, enter the F. Highlight that F. Then, look on the menu at the 
bottom of the screen, for a dotted square with a hat on top. It will open 
up a menu with a choice of decorations you can add, including the hat you 
need. There are two types, smaller and larger.


HTH.

--

David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University


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On June 16, 2014 8:54:35 AM Martin Tamms martin.ta...@googlemail.com wrote:


Sehr geehrtes Lyx-Team,



ich muss im Rahmen meiner Seminararbeit den Ausdruck „ein großes F mit 
einem Hut drauf“ verwenden in einer Mathe-Umgebung.


Ich finde leider diesen Ausdruck nicht, er ist zwar für die Buchstaben 
A,E,G usw. vorhanden (ÂÊĜ), aber nicht für F.




Können Sie mir weiterhelfen?



Vielen Dank und mit freundlichen Grüßen,



Martin Tamms

Re: Probleme mit Sonderzeichen

[David L. Johnson]

In math-mode, enter the F. Highlight that F. Then, look on the menu at the 
bottom of the screen, for a dotted square with a hat on top. It will open 
up a menu with a choice of decorations you can add, including the hat you 
need. There are two types, smaller and larger.


HTH.

--

David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University


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On June 16, 2014 8:54:35 AM "Martin Tamms" <martin.ta...@googlemail.com> wrote:


Sehr geehrtes Lyx-Team,



ich muss im Rahmen meiner Seminararbeit den Ausdruck „ein großes F mit 
einem Hut drauf“ verwenden in einer Mathe-Umgebung.


Ich finde leider diesen Ausdruck nicht, er ist zwar für die Buchstaben 
A,E,G usw. vorhanden (ÂÊĜ), aber nicht für F.




Können Sie mir weiterhelfen?



Vielen Dank und mit freundlichen Grüßen,



Martin Tamms

Re: Bug

[David L. Johnson]

On 05/13/2014 12:10 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

I could propably report as a bug, but let me do it that way.
In versin 2.1.0 on
Linux 3.14.3-200.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue May 6 19:00:18 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 
x86_64 GNU/Linux
Every time that I have an opne document and that I want to open a new
one (open recent). I get an error:
SIGSEGV signal caught!
Sorry, you have found a bug in LyX, hope you have not lost any data.

Odd, I can't reproduce that here.  My linux version is a bit different:

Linux  3.13-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.13.10-1 (2014-04-15) x86_64 GNU/Linux

but when I have a document open in LyX 2.1.0 and then open a new one 
from recent documents, it works correctly.  I wonder whether it is a bug 
in LyX, or elsewhere.  Are these particularly large or complicated 
documents?  Do you have the same problem no matter which documents you 
have open and opening?


--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Bug in the Math UI

[David L. Johnson]

On 05/13/2014 04:48 PM, Julio Rojas wrote:


As you can see, there is [t] in the array that is generating the 
problem, i.e., the array was top aligned. Are matrices in Lyx 2.1.0 
set up by default on top alignment instead of middle aligment? I don't 
really remember changing this aligment.
The popup window does seem to come up with top-alignment as the 
default.  Middle would be better, I think.



On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com 
mailto:jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:


Dear all,

I am on Ubuntu 12.02 with Lyx 2.1.0. I wanted to make set the
binomial coefficient for a binomial distribution, so I did as I
alway did, i.e., insert the parenthesis in my equation and a size
2 column vector in the parenthesis.



I was going to respond to this part anyway.  For binomial coefficients, 
use (gee) \binom  instead.  The parentheses are tighter around the 
numbers, and it looks more like a binomial coefficient. Easier as well.



--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Bug

[David L. Johnson]

On 05/13/2014 12:10 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

I could propably report as a bug, but let me do it that way.
In versin 2.1.0 on
Linux 3.14.3-200.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue May 6 19:00:18 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 
x86_64 GNU/Linux
Every time that I have an opne document and that I want to open a new
one (open recent). I get an error:
SIGSEGV signal caught!
Sorry, you have found a bug in LyX, hope you have not lost any data.

Odd, I can't reproduce that here.  My linux version is a bit different:

Linux  3.13-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.13.10-1 (2014-04-15) x86_64 GNU/Linux

but when I have a document open in LyX 2.1.0 and then open a new one 
from recent documents, it works correctly.  I wonder whether it is a bug 
in LyX, or elsewhere.  Are these particularly large or complicated 
documents?  Do you have the same problem no matter which documents you 
have open and opening?


--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Bug in the Math UI

[David L. Johnson]

On 05/13/2014 04:48 PM, Julio Rojas wrote:


As you can see, there is [t] in the array that is generating the 
problem, i.e., the array was top aligned. Are matrices in Lyx 2.1.0 
set up by default on top alignment instead of middle aligment? I don't 
really remember changing this aligment.
The popup window does seem to come up with top-alignment as the 
default.  Middle would be better, I think.



On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com 
mailto:jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:


Dear all,

I am on Ubuntu 12.02 with Lyx 2.1.0. I wanted to make set the
binomial coefficient for a binomial distribution, so I did as I
alway did, i.e., insert the parenthesis in my equation and a size
2 column vector in the parenthesis.



I was going to respond to this part anyway.  For binomial coefficients, 
use (gee) \binom  instead.  The parentheses are tighter around the 
numbers, and it looks more like a binomial coefficient. Easier as well.



--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Bug

[David L. Johnson]

On 05/13/2014 12:10 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

I could propably report as a bug, but let me do it that way.
In versin 2.1.0 on
Linux 3.14.3-200.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue May 6 19:00:18 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 
x86_64 GNU/Linux
Every time that I have an opne document and that I want to open a new
one (open recent). I get an error:
SIGSEGV signal caught!
Sorry, you have found a bug in LyX, hope you have not lost any data.

Odd, I can't reproduce that here.  My linux version is a bit different:

Linux  3.13-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.13.10-1 (2014-04-15) x86_64 GNU/Linux

but when I have a document open in LyX 2.1.0 and then open a new one 
from recent documents, it works correctly.  I wonder whether it is a bug 
in LyX, or elsewhere.  Are these particularly large or complicated 
documents?  Do you have the same problem no matter which documents you 
have open and opening?


--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Bug in the Math UI

[David L. Johnson]

On 05/13/2014 04:48 PM, Julio Rojas wrote:


As you can see, there is "[t]" in the array that is generating the 
problem, i.e., the array was top aligned. Are matrices in Lyx 2.1.0 
set up by default on top alignment instead of middle aligment? I don't 
really remember changing this aligment.
The popup window does seem to come up with top-alignment as the 
default.  Middle would be better, I think.



On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Julio Rojas <jcredbe...@gmail.com 
<mailto:jcredbe...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Dear all,

I am on Ubuntu 12.02 with Lyx 2.1.0. I wanted to make set the
binomial coefficient for a binomial distribution, so I did as I
alway did, i.e., insert the parenthesis in my equation and a size
2 column vector in the parenthesis.



I was going to respond to this part anyway.  For binomial coefficients, 
use (gee) \binom  instead.  The parentheses are tighter around the 
numbers, and it looks more like a binomial coefficient. Easier as well.



--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

[David L. Johnson]

On 05/08/2014 09:52 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:

BTW, now I understand what Jurgen meant by no need to indent the paragraph
after a frame title for the text to remain within the Frame. I thought
that by saying it was a Frame environment, the text would not behave as a
standard indented standard environment. My mistake. Nevertheless,
indentation gives a clear idea that this text belongs to this Frame.
Anyways, as I continuously use Theorems (and derivatives), I usually found
myself indenting these environments into a Frame, so indenting standard
text is kind of a natural extension for me.

Thanks for the hard work dudes. I will go back to my never-ending stream of
Beamer slides...


I had been waiting until the end of my semester, and also waiting for 
debian testing to go to 2.1, to upgrade.  But I saw that debian was not 
upgrading until they find a new maintainer (more than I have the time 
for), and classes are done, so I compiled 2.1 today.  I looked at the 
Beamer changes first, since that would likely be the most difficult.


I was pleased to see that my old (fairly simple) Beamer files imported 
automatically.  I see now the issues with the frames.  It could be 
easier to navigate between depths and environments, and it will catch me 
now and again to remember to separate Frame environments, but it isn't 
too awkward for now.  I guess the question is whether to treat the 
beginning of a Frame similarly to the treatment of a Section, or to 
treat it more like a Theorem or quotation environment.  Following LaTeX 
treatment is probably best in the long run.  Getting out of such an 
environment could be easier.  Why does a plain frame have space for a title?



--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

[David L. Johnson]

On 05/08/2014 09:52 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:

BTW, now I understand what Jurgen meant by no need to indent the paragraph
after a frame title for the text to remain within the Frame. I thought
that by saying it was a Frame environment, the text would not behave as a
standard indented standard environment. My mistake. Nevertheless,
indentation gives a clear idea that this text belongs to this Frame.
Anyways, as I continuously use Theorems (and derivatives), I usually found
myself indenting these environments into a Frame, so indenting standard
text is kind of a natural extension for me.

Thanks for the hard work dudes. I will go back to my never-ending stream of
Beamer slides...


I had been waiting until the end of my semester, and also waiting for 
debian testing to go to 2.1, to upgrade.  But I saw that debian was not 
upgrading until they find a new maintainer (more than I have the time 
for), and classes are done, so I compiled 2.1 today.  I looked at the 
Beamer changes first, since that would likely be the most difficult.


I was pleased to see that my old (fairly simple) Beamer files imported 
automatically.  I see now the issues with the frames.  It could be 
easier to navigate between depths and environments, and it will catch me 
now and again to remember to separate Frame environments, but it isn't 
too awkward for now.  I guess the question is whether to treat the 
beginning of a Frame similarly to the treatment of a Section, or to 
treat it more like a Theorem or quotation environment.  Following LaTeX 
treatment is probably best in the long run.  Getting out of such an 
environment could be easier.  Why does a plain frame have space for a title?



--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

[David L. Johnson]

On 05/08/2014 09:52 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas <jcredbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

BTW, now I understand what Jurgen meant by "no need" to indent the paragraph
after a frame title for the text to remain within the "Frame". I thought
that by saying it was a "Frame" environment, the text would not behave as a
standard indented standard environment. My mistake. Nevertheless,
indentation gives a clear idea that this text belongs to this "Frame".
Anyways, as I continuously use "Theorems" (and derivatives), I usually found
myself indenting these environments into a "Frame", so indenting standard
text is kind of a natural extension for me.

Thanks for the hard work dudes. I will go back to my never-ending stream of
Beamer slides...


I had been waiting until the end of my semester, and also waiting for 
debian testing to go to 2.1, to upgrade.  But I saw that debian was not 
upgrading until they find a new maintainer (more than I have the time 
for), and classes are done, so I compiled 2.1 today.  I looked at the 
Beamer changes first, since that would likely be the most difficult.


I was pleased to see that my old (fairly simple) Beamer files imported 
automatically.  I see now the issues with the frames.  It could be 
easier to navigate between depths and environments, and it will catch me 
now and again to remember to separate Frame environments, but it isn't 
too awkward for now.  I guess the question is whether to treat the 
beginning of a Frame similarly to the treatment of a Section, or to 
treat it more like a Theorem or quotation environment.  Following LaTeX 
treatment is probably best in the long run.  Getting out of such an 
environment could be easier.  Why does a plain frame have space for a title?



--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: repeated bibtex entry on 2.1-rc1

[David L. Johnson]

On 04/16/2014 07:46 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote:

- Forwarded message from Xuchen Yao -

Hi,

I consulted some friends who study Math. We think most of the translations
into simplified Chinese are accurate, except for the term tableau. We've
only used tables and list of tables in writing but never tableau. If
roughly table=tableau, then the existing translation if not accurate.
Well, in English -- mathematical English, anyway, tableau is a very 
specialized term for certain ways of arranging information in 
combinatorics.  I don't know any combinatorics, but I've gathered this 
over the years.  tables and list of tables more correctly refers to 
the more general situation.



--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: repeated bibtex entry on 2.1-rc1

[David L. Johnson]

On 04/16/2014 07:46 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote:

- Forwarded message from Xuchen Yao -

Hi,

I consulted some friends who study Math. We think most of the translations
into simplified Chinese are accurate, except for the term tableau. We've
only used tables and list of tables in writing but never tableau. If
roughly table=tableau, then the existing translation if not accurate.
Well, in English -- mathematical English, anyway, tableau is a very 
specialized term for certain ways of arranging information in 
combinatorics.  I don't know any combinatorics, but I've gathered this 
over the years.  tables and list of tables more correctly refers to 
the more general situation.



--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: repeated bibtex entry on 2.1-rc1

[David L. Johnson]

On 04/16/2014 07:46 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote:

- Forwarded message from Xuchen Yao -

Hi,

I consulted some friends who study Math. We think most of the translations
into simplified Chinese are accurate, except for the term "tableau". We've
only used "tables" and "list of tables" in writing but never "tableau". If
roughly table=tableau, then the existing translation if not accurate.
Well, in English -- mathematical English, anyway, "tableau" is a very 
specialized term for certain ways of arranging information in 
combinatorics.  I don't know any combinatorics, but I've gathered this 
over the years.  "tables" and "list of tables" more correctly refers to 
the more general situation.



--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Math in LibreOffice/Word exported files: input needed

[David L. Johnson]

On 03/13/2014 04:17 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

We can export a math expression to a LibreOffice/ODt file as MathML
(there are still issues, but assume for the moment that the export
will be perfect). However, LIbreOffice's supports only a limited
subset of the MathML standard, and does not even use such MathML
internally (it uses a format  called StarMath that resembles very much
the troff/eqn format but is much less expressive,  for those who are
interested in this kind of things).
Moreover, LibreOffice uses the Semantic version of MathML, whereas
the exporter uses the Presentation version, which further
complicates issues.
I am not familiar with LibreOffice's math capabilities, but as far as I 
recall Word's version was mostly limited to displayed equations, with 
not much at all inline.  That makes a difference here.  If LO can manage 
significant inline math expressions, then it would be a real problem to 
have them exported as images.  Displayed equations can be at least moved 
around as images, though that still will be limiting.


We are thus faced with a design choice:

1. Leave the exporter as it is and be left with imperfect and
sometimes incomplete but editable math expressions when LaTeX is used
at its fullest

editable is good, IMNSHO.




=== QUESTIONS

So the questions are:

1. Are you a potential user of a Word/LibreOffice export converters?

Not really.


2. If so, do you use routinely use mathematical expressions in your documents?

3. Why do you/would you need to export to LibreOffice/Word format? (to
send the documents to publishers, mentors, advisors, colleagues, and
so on)




--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Math in LibreOffice/Word exported files: input needed

[David L. Johnson]

On 03/13/2014 04:17 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

We can export a math expression to a LibreOffice/ODt file as MathML
(there are still issues, but assume for the moment that the export
will be perfect). However, LIbreOffice's supports only a limited
subset of the MathML standard, and does not even use such MathML
internally (it uses a format  called StarMath that resembles very much
the troff/eqn format but is much less expressive,  for those who are
interested in this kind of things).
Moreover, LibreOffice uses the Semantic version of MathML, whereas
the exporter uses the Presentation version, which further
complicates issues.
I am not familiar with LibreOffice's math capabilities, but as far as I 
recall Word's version was mostly limited to displayed equations, with 
not much at all inline.  That makes a difference here.  If LO can manage 
significant inline math expressions, then it would be a real problem to 
have them exported as images.  Displayed equations can be at least moved 
around as images, though that still will be limiting.


We are thus faced with a design choice:

1. Leave the exporter as it is and be left with imperfect and
sometimes incomplete but editable math expressions when LaTeX is used
at its fullest

editable is good, IMNSHO.




=== QUESTIONS

So the questions are:

1. Are you a potential user of a Word/LibreOffice export converters?

Not really.


2. If so, do you use routinely use mathematical expressions in your documents?

3. Why do you/would you need to export to LibreOffice/Word format? (to
send the documents to publishers, mentors, advisors, colleagues, and
so on)




--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Math in LibreOffice/Word exported files: input needed

[David L. Johnson]

On 03/13/2014 04:17 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

We can export a math expression to a LibreOffice/ODt file as MathML
(there are still issues, but assume for the moment that the export
will be perfect). However, LIbreOffice's supports only a limited
subset of the MathML standard, and does not even use such MathML
internally (it uses a format  called StarMath that resembles very much
the troff/eqn format but is much less expressive,  for those who are
interested in this kind of things).
Moreover, LibreOffice uses the "Semantic" version of MathML, whereas
the exporter uses the "Presentation" version, which further
complicates issues.
I am not familiar with LibreOffice's math capabilities, but as far as I 
recall Word's version was mostly limited to displayed equations, with 
not much at all inline.  That makes a difference here.  If LO can manage 
significant inline math expressions, then it would be a real problem to 
have them exported as images.  Displayed equations can be at least moved 
around as images, though that still will be limiting.


We are thus faced with a design choice:

1. Leave the exporter as it is and be left with imperfect and
sometimes incomplete but editable math expressions when LaTeX is used
at its fullest

editable is good, IMNSHO.




=== QUESTIONS

So the questions are:

1. Are you a potential user of a Word/LibreOffice export converters?

Not really.


2. If so, do you use routinely use mathematical expressions in your documents?

3. Why do you/would you need to export to LibreOffice/Word format? (to
send the documents to publishers, mentors, advisors, colleagues, and
so on)




--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Quick question regarding copy/paste and cut/paste

[David L. Johnson]

On 01/15/2014 02:25 PM, A Choi wrote:
I am sending this again to include my OS and lyx version. as well as a 
more detailed description of the problem.


Windows 7 and 2.0.6.

If I have a math expression, say, $acb$, and want to change the order 
of them, I select b inside the math environment and do ctrl+x then 
move my cursor to the space between a and c and then press ctrl+v. 
What happens is b gets pasted outside the math environment, in plain 
text, in front of $ac$. so instead of $abc$, i get b$ac$.


*however*, if instead of pressing ctrl+v, i go to edit-paste recent-b

then b gets pasted correctly, right between a and c.

So it seems that my paste shortcut is where the problem lies. In the 
picture below, *none *of those key combinations can achieve what 
edit-paste recent can do.
Ah.  From that menu it seems that some of your settings would be 
unusual.  What about Ctrl+1?  Can these settings be altered?  This seems 
to be Windows-specific, so I can't help further.


Screenshot clipped to save bandwidth.

--
 
David L. Johnson
 
Business! cried the Ghost. Mankind was my business. The common

welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance,  and benevolence,
were, all, my business. The dealings of my trade were but a drop of
water in the comprehensive ocean of my business!
--Dickens, A Christmas Carol

Re: Quick question regarding copy/paste and cut/paste

[David L. Johnson]

On 01/15/2014 02:25 PM, A Choi wrote:
I am sending this again to include my OS and lyx version. as well as a 
more detailed description of the problem.


Windows 7 and 2.0.6.

If I have a math expression, say, $acb$, and want to change the order 
of them, I select b inside the math environment and do ctrl+x then 
move my cursor to the space between a and c and then press ctrl+v. 
What happens is b gets pasted outside the math environment, in plain 
text, in front of $ac$. so instead of $abc$, i get b$ac$.


*however*, if instead of pressing ctrl+v, i go to edit-paste recent-b

then b gets pasted correctly, right between a and c.

So it seems that my paste shortcut is where the problem lies. In the 
picture below, *none *of those key combinations can achieve what 
edit-paste recent can do.
Ah.  From that menu it seems that some of your settings would be 
unusual.  What about Ctrl+1?  Can these settings be altered?  This seems 
to be Windows-specific, so I can't help further.


Screenshot clipped to save bandwidth.

--
 
David L. Johnson
 
Business! cried the Ghost. Mankind was my business. The common

welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance,  and benevolence,
were, all, my business. The dealings of my trade were but a drop of
water in the comprehensive ocean of my business!
--Dickens, A Christmas Carol

Re: Quick question regarding copy/paste and cut/paste

[David L. Johnson]

On 01/15/2014 02:25 PM, A Choi wrote:
I am sending this again to include my OS and lyx version. as well as a 
more detailed description of the problem.


Windows 7 and 2.0.6.

If I have a math expression, say, $acb$, and want to change the order 
of them, I select b inside the math environment and do ctrl+x then 
move my cursor to the space between a and c and then press ctrl+v. 
What happens is b gets pasted outside the math environment, in plain 
text, in front of $ac$. so instead of $abc$, i get b$ac$.


*however*, if instead of pressing ctrl+v, i go to edit->paste recent->b

then b gets pasted correctly, right between a and c.

So it seems that my paste shortcut is where the problem lies. In the 
picture below, *none *of those key combinations can achieve what 
edit->paste recent can do.
Ah.  From that menu it seems that some of your settings would be 
unusual.  What about Ctrl+1?  Can these settings be altered?  This seems 
to be Windows-specific, so I can't help further.


Screenshot clipped to save bandwidth.

--
 
David L. Johnson
 
"Business!" cried the Ghost. "Mankind was my business. The common

welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance,  and benevolence,
were, all, my business. The dealings of my trade were but a drop of
water in the comprehensive ocean of my business!"
--Dickens, "A Christmas Carol"

Re: Maple and Lyx on Ubuntu

[David L. Johnson]

On 12/30/2013 10:42 AM, Julio Rojas wrote:

Dear all,

Is there a way on Ubuntu to use the basic features that link Maple and 
Lyx? Even Maxima would be cool to use.



It works for me with debian, maple and lyx, but the last time I tried it 
I found the connection to not be all that useful.  I also don't recall 
any special set-up to get it to work.


--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Maple and Lyx on Ubuntu

[David L. Johnson]

On 12/30/2013 10:42 AM, Julio Rojas wrote:

Dear all,

Is there a way on Ubuntu to use the basic features that link Maple and 
Lyx? Even Maxima would be cool to use.



It works for me with debian, maple and lyx, but the last time I tried it 
I found the connection to not be all that useful.  I also don't recall 
any special set-up to get it to work.


--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Maple and Lyx on Ubuntu

[David L. Johnson]

On 12/30/2013 10:42 AM, Julio Rojas wrote:

Dear all,

Is there a way on Ubuntu to use the basic features that link Maple and 
Lyx? Even Maxima would be cool to use.



It works for me with debian, maple and lyx, but the last time I tried it 
I found the connection to not be all that useful.  I also don't recall 
any special set-up to get it to work.


--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: printing

[David L. Johnson]

On 12/04/2013 12:43 PM, mike wrote:

Hi

Even though I am an old LaTeX user (but a new LyX user) for my current 
purposes I would like to be able to print in a format very similar to 
what I see on the screen in LyX.  I do realise that LyX is not 
intended to be wysiwyg but what I see on the screen (some basic text 
and mathematics and nested itemised lists) is just about perfect for 
what I need if I could just figure out how to print it so that the 
printouts look like what I see on the screen.
I guess I don't understand what you mean.  On the one hand, if you have 
that on the screen, isn't it printed out that way?  Aside from 
re-formatting the text to fit the page width, of course.  What else 
about the way it looks on the screen do you not get on the printout?


On the other hand, why would you want it to look more like the screen 
than the usual TeX output?  TeX adds in ligatures and other fancy font 
details, re-sets the page width and justification, and prints what you 
wrote.  Some fonts are different, but usually better than the on-screen 
appearance.  Why would you want it more like the screen?



--
 
David L. Johnson
 
And what if you track down these men and kill them, what if you killed

all of us?  From every corner of Europe, hundreds, thousands would
rise up to take our places.  Even Nazis can't kill that fast.
-- Paul Henreid (Casablanca).

Re: printing

[David L. Johnson]

On 12/04/2013 12:43 PM, mike wrote:

Hi

Even though I am an old LaTeX user (but a new LyX user) for my current 
purposes I would like to be able to print in a format very similar to 
what I see on the screen in LyX.  I do realise that LyX is not 
intended to be wysiwyg but what I see on the screen (some basic text 
and mathematics and nested itemised lists) is just about perfect for 
what I need if I could just figure out how to print it so that the 
printouts look like what I see on the screen.
I guess I don't understand what you mean.  On the one hand, if you have 
that on the screen, isn't it printed out that way?  Aside from 
re-formatting the text to fit the page width, of course.  What else 
about the way it looks on the screen do you not get on the printout?


On the other hand, why would you want it to look more like the screen 
than the usual TeX output?  TeX adds in ligatures and other fancy font 
details, re-sets the page width and justification, and prints what you 
wrote.  Some fonts are different, but usually better than the on-screen 
appearance.  Why would you want it more like the screen?



--
 
David L. Johnson
 
And what if you track down these men and kill them, what if you killed

all of us?  From every corner of Europe, hundreds, thousands would
rise up to take our places.  Even Nazis can't kill that fast.
-- Paul Henreid (Casablanca).

Re: printing

[David L. Johnson]

On 12/04/2013 12:43 PM, mike wrote:

Hi

Even though I am an old LaTeX user (but a new LyX user) for my current 
purposes I would like to be able to print in a format very similar to 
what I see on the screen in LyX.  I do realise that LyX is not 
intended to be wysiwyg but what I see on the screen (some basic text 
and mathematics and nested itemised lists) is just about perfect for 
what I need if I could just figure out how to print it so that the 
printouts look like what I see on the screen.
I guess I don't understand what you mean.  On the one hand, if you have 
that on the screen, isn't it printed out that way?  Aside from 
re-formatting the text to fit the page width, of course.  What else 
about the way it looks on the screen do you not get on the printout?


On the other hand, why would you want it to look more like the screen 
than the usual TeX output?  TeX adds in ligatures and other fancy font 
details, re-sets the page width and justification, and prints what you 
wrote.  Some fonts are different, but usually better than the on-screen 
appearance.  Why would you want it more like the screen?



--
 
David L. Johnson
 
And what if you track down these men and kill them, what if you killed

all of us?  From every corner of Europe, hundreds, thousands would
rise up to take our places.  Even Nazis can't kill that fast.
-- Paul Henreid (Casablanca).

Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

[David L. Johnson]

On 11/11/2013 01:20 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


On Monday 11 November 2013 11:12:46 Stephan Witt wrote:

 Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne 
philipp.gro...@googlemail.com:


  Hi!

 

  more serious:

  if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get

 

  ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled

  it (babel) or the language definition file ngerman.ldf

  was not found.

 

  and no output.

 

  I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian

 

  I had the same error while compiling documents, I solved it by

  manually deleting all lines from the document in question which

  contained /ngerman. (By opening them in a text editor and using the

  search feature) This worked like a charm.

 

  This can be due to sheer luck, it is possible that this opens a can of

  worms in other documents. I advice to make backups before editing the

  source document manually.

 

  (By the way, just commenting it out by adding a # to the beginning of

  the line in question did not work.)

 

  If you want to install more packages instead try either

  texlive-lang-german or texlive-lang-all.



 I guess it's the same problem others mentioned already on this list:

 It looks like the package dependencies of modern Linux systems doesn't

 include the language packages of TeX-Live anymore.



 Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live

 installed.



 Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to solve

 this.



 Stephan

I guess I need texlive-lang-all

which is not in the texlive 2013 of synaptic, but in texlive 2012

If I select this for installation, synaptic is going to remove a lot 
of texlive and other stuff, which I hesitate to do.


If I try to install texlive-lang-all by apt-get install,

I get

root@wolfgang:/home/we# apt-get install texlive-lang-all

Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig

Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.

Statusinformationen werden eingelesen Fertig

Einige Pakete konnten nicht installiert werden. Das kann bedeuten, dass

Sie eine unmögliche Situation angefordert haben oder, wenn Sie die

Unstable-Distribution verwenden, dass einige erforderliche Pakete noch

nicht erstellt wurden oder Incoming noch nicht verlassen haben.

Die folgenden Informationen helfen Ihnen vielleicht, die Situation zu 
lösen:


Die folgenden Pakete haben unerfüllte Abhängigkeiten:

texlive-lang-all : Hängt ab von: texlive-lang-latvian (= 
2012.20120516) soll aber nicht installiert werden


and so on in a long list

Perhaps instead of trying to install all languages, just install those 
you want to use.  Install them before you install LyX, maybe.


Actually, though, why you can't install all languages is somehow a fault 
of either the package maintainer, or the archive you are using.  What 
came after where you cut this off?  Did it say why it was not going to 
install the Latvian package?  Maybe the file wasn't found?



--
 
David L. Johnson
 
What is objectionable, and what is dangerous about extremists is not

that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.
--Robert F. Kennedy

Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

[David L. Johnson]

On 11/11/2013 01:20 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


On Monday 11 November 2013 11:12:46 Stephan Witt wrote:

 Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne 
philipp.gro...@googlemail.com:


  Hi!

 

  more serious:

  if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get

 

  ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled

  it (babel) or the language definition file ngerman.ldf

  was not found.

 

  and no output.

 

  I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian

 

  I had the same error while compiling documents, I solved it by

  manually deleting all lines from the document in question which

  contained /ngerman. (By opening them in a text editor and using the

  search feature) This worked like a charm.

 

  This can be due to sheer luck, it is possible that this opens a can of

  worms in other documents. I advice to make backups before editing the

  source document manually.

 

  (By the way, just commenting it out by adding a # to the beginning of

  the line in question did not work.)

 

  If you want to install more packages instead try either

  texlive-lang-german or texlive-lang-all.



 I guess it's the same problem others mentioned already on this list:

 It looks like the package dependencies of modern Linux systems doesn't

 include the language packages of TeX-Live anymore.



 Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live

 installed.



 Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to solve

 this.



 Stephan

I guess I need texlive-lang-all

which is not in the texlive 2013 of synaptic, but in texlive 2012

If I select this for installation, synaptic is going to remove a lot 
of texlive and other stuff, which I hesitate to do.


If I try to install texlive-lang-all by apt-get install,

I get

root@wolfgang:/home/we# apt-get install texlive-lang-all

Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig

Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.

Statusinformationen werden eingelesen Fertig

Einige Pakete konnten nicht installiert werden. Das kann bedeuten, dass

Sie eine unmögliche Situation angefordert haben oder, wenn Sie die

Unstable-Distribution verwenden, dass einige erforderliche Pakete noch

nicht erstellt wurden oder Incoming noch nicht verlassen haben.

Die folgenden Informationen helfen Ihnen vielleicht, die Situation zu 
lösen:


Die folgenden Pakete haben unerfüllte Abhängigkeiten:

texlive-lang-all : Hängt ab von: texlive-lang-latvian (= 
2012.20120516) soll aber nicht installiert werden


and so on in a long list

Perhaps instead of trying to install all languages, just install those 
you want to use.  Install them before you install LyX, maybe.


Actually, though, why you can't install all languages is somehow a fault 
of either the package maintainer, or the archive you are using.  What 
came after where you cut this off?  Did it say why it was not going to 
install the Latvian package?  Maybe the file wasn't found?



--
 
David L. Johnson
 
What is objectionable, and what is dangerous about extremists is not

that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.
--Robert F. Kennedy

Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

[David L. Johnson]

On 11/11/2013 01:20 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


On Monday 11 November 2013 11:12:46 Stephan Witt wrote:

> Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne 
<philipp.gro...@googlemail.com>:


> > Hi!

> >

> > more serious:

> > if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get

> >

> > ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled

> > it (babel) or the language definition file ngerman.ldf

> > was not found.

> >

> > and no output.

> >

> > I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian

> >

> > I had the same error while compiling documents, I solved it by

> > manually deleting all lines from the document in question which

> > contained "/ngerman". (By opening them in a text editor and using the

> > search feature) This worked like a charm.

> >

> > This can be due to sheer luck, it is possible that this opens a can of

> > worms in other documents. I advice to make backups before editing the

> > source document manually.

> >

> > (By the way, just commenting it out by adding a # to the beginning of

> > the line in question did not work.)

> >

> > If you want to install more packages instead try either

> > "texlive-lang-german" or "texlive-lang-all".

>

> I guess it's the same problem others mentioned already on this list:

> It looks like the package dependencies of "modern" Linux systems doesn't

> include the language packages of TeX-Live anymore.

>

> Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live

> installed.

>

> Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to solve

> this.

>

> Stephan

I guess I need texlive-lang-all

which is not in the texlive 2013 of synaptic, but in texlive 2012

If I select this for installation, synaptic is going to remove a lot 
of texlive and other stuff, which I hesitate to do.


If I try to install texlive-lang-all by apt-get install,

I get

root@wolfgang:/home/we# apt-get install texlive-lang-all

Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig

Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.

Statusinformationen werden eingelesen Fertig

Einige Pakete konnten nicht installiert werden. Das kann bedeuten, dass

Sie eine unmögliche Situation angefordert haben oder, wenn Sie die

Unstable-Distribution verwenden, dass einige erforderliche Pakete noch

nicht erstellt wurden oder Incoming noch nicht verlassen haben.

Die folgenden Informationen helfen Ihnen vielleicht, die Situation zu 
lösen:


Die folgenden Pakete haben unerfüllte Abhängigkeiten:

texlive-lang-all : Hängt ab von: texlive-lang-latvian (>= 
2012.20120516) soll aber nicht installiert werden


and so on in a long list

Perhaps instead of trying to install all languages, just install those 
you want to use.  Install them before you install LyX, maybe.


Actually, though, why you can't install all languages is somehow a fault 
of either the package maintainer, or the archive you are using.  What 
came after where you cut this off?  Did it say why it was not going to 
install the Latvian package?  Maybe the file wasn't found?



--
 
David L. Johnson
 
What is objectionable, and what is dangerous about extremists is not

that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.
--Robert F. Kennedy