Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
OK, then, tell me what is broken. If you can't give any concrete examples, then I consider your assumption nothing more than someone who's whining trying to steer people away. I challenge you, and anyone to tell me what is broken. Truely, if you can prove me wrong, then, I'll gladly agree to shut my mouth, but, you've not said anything which would convince me, nor anyone else most likely to believe you. So, if you want some credibility, then, damn it, start talking! Spill it! Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: mário navarro To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 8:49 AM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 shut your mouth silly! everything is still unresolved ... think first before you talk... cheers. Em 28/03/2015 03:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Whatever people. I'm telling you that Apple did break it, yes, but that is the key word... Did! Things work very well now, and if you don't believe me, tell me what you had an issue with, and I'll make an audio demo showing it's been fixed. Maybe then, you'll believe me. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it. On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote: I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces. 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to know that most companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to be broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 dollar piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and moments where you want to throw that damn thing out the window and never touch it again is clearly not what I call good experience on a computer. More and more of my friends, mac users, both sighted and visually impaired, agree with me that apple is starting to rot in terms of presenting
Messages from Mario
Guys, just ignore this subscriber. Sooner or later, the moderator will ban him, I promise you. I know that his last e-mail especially will not be tollerated, trust me. If I was the mod of this list, which, I'm not, lets make that totally totally clear, but if I were, he wouldn't have been banned prior to this e-mail, however this one where he throws the F bomb would have done it! I would have banned him immediately. But, alas, I'm not a moderator. This said, I'm very convinced that they will handle it, as long as we don't feed the fuel to the fire any more than we have already. I know it's tempting, trust me, but just don't give him what he wants, which very plainly is attention. If any of you all need me to, I'll definitely be willing to walk you guys through step by step how to block his e-mails in Mail. Please let me know if you need some help doing so. chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
Chris, May i practice a bit of radical forgiveness here using your post? If you find my comments distasteful, then I will not comment again. Still you say something very important. None of us know one way or the other what factors are feeding all the issues He is having. Because we do not know, that the product works for you, while terrific for you, has no impact on their frustrations. Unfortunately when some humans feel their views are being discounted, i. e. hey its working for me, no matter how well meant, they feel that you are discounting them personally. Yes they can choose otherwise, but many a government leader does the same thing with countless suffering as a result. My point is this. Perhaps , just perhaps we can all consider adding an expression when we comment about someone Else's stated problem. speaking only for myself. or In my experience. Then talk about what you are finding is working without assuming that if it works for you it must work for all. does that make sense? granted Rio I believe it was did take things very personally, and chose words in attack intended to bother. Speaking only for myself smiles I learned a long time ago that offense is a choice made in many ways largely by the person taking offense. His words do not bother me, because I know those works have nothing to do with me. If someone started yelling about your orange socks and blue colored hair, And you had neither, would you take offense? same can go here, if you choose, no matter how colorful the metaphors. You are not the person having the problem, but you can share how something is not a problem...for you. Make sense? Kare who will now go back to her dickens. On Sat, 28 Mar 2015, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: I agree with David here 100%. I don't know if I'd say necessarily spoiled though. We have no way of knowing that one way or another. I however do agree that his comments are uncalled for... very much so, I do. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 9:32 AM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't
Re: Moderators
David, I think I do. I'm not totally sure this will work, so don't quote me on this, but I'm 98% sure that you want to ssend an e-mail to: macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com Notice that I didn't use a dash in the above address. I used a plus symbol. that was not a typographical error. I wrote it that way very intentionally. I think that Chris Brouch might be a moderator, or at least a co-moderator. I say this as when I initially joined, before I was approved, he got ahold of me privately. I'm so sorry, but I don't currently have his e-mail address. Try the above suggestion though. If that doesn't work, let me know, and I'll keep looking. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:53 PM Subject: Moderators Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: About VPN
That will depend on what uses you intend to put it to. VPNs (Virtual Private Networks) typically extend internal, private networks across the Internet, for business uses. They do this by tunnelling the traffic that needs to traverse the Internet inside an encrypted session between devices at the edges of the network that face the Internet. Internal devices then appear to be communicating with other internal nodes that are really distant from them, essentially using the Internet and encryption as a substitute for private leased lines where the security guarantees of the public Internet alone are inadequate. These days, all Internet traffic that is not encrypted should be considered vulnerable. The useful side-effect of the VPN technology, as it applies to VPN services, is that you can essentially purchase access to a virtual leased line solely for accessing the Internet. You obtain a VPN account and then route all your traffic, including Internet traffic, through it. That means that the Internet sees traffic from the vantage point of the line owner, and not yourself. People thus use VPNs for, say, browsing more anonymously. Typical uses for VPN services are: geoblock circumvention (the VPN endpoint is in another geographic region than you), anonymity and/or privacy (the endpoint is supposedly in a place less harbouring of interests that are in conflict with one’s own than one’s own service provider or government), content restriction avoidance (a corporate or governmental restriction that you find undesirable), deep-packet-inspection avoidance (network-level discrimination, filtering or modification of data occurring on one’s own network that is made harder or impossible by the encryption layer of the VPN). Some people also use VPNs solely so they can access public Wi-Fi access points, but in my opinion this is a rather pointless thing to do, because it really only serves to obscure the underlying vulnerability of unencrypted data and the risks of using public Wi-Fi; still, it’s true that on an open Wi-Fi access point, if you use a VPN, anybody with a packet sniffer can no longer see which websites you visit, whereas, presumably, the people who run your VPN server (or all the providers your Internet traffic passes through) will be less willing or likely to try to monitor your web browsing habits. Naturally, once again, unless it’s encrypted by SSL or other direct means, it’s insecure. Many websites offer SSL, and you should use that wherever it’s available. So to answer your question: it’s entirely possible that you don’t need a VPN at all, for either iOS or Mac. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
OK. that's actually kind of what I suspected, but figured that I'd ask. Thank you for your help. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 8:29 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List Need to go online at the Macvisionaries page gf Googlegroups. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 5:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Oh, really? Gotcha. I'm going by the little I know from other listservs. That probably explains why in the past all my owner request e-mails have bounced with other google Groups. So, then, please can you provide us with the exact procedure to contact the owner of a Google Group such as this one? Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:56 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List By the way, there is no email address for a googlegroups owner, one must use a web form. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 4:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:19 PM Subject: Inappropriate Responsses on List Hello thought I should bring your attention to the inappropriate behaviour of an a list member today. Many of us feel he needs to be removed from the list. Some examples are below. On 28/03/2015 18:21, mário navarro wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith On 28/03/2015 18:34, mário navarro wrote: fuck you bitch. your pussy stinks. Em 28/03/2015 18:16, Donna Goodin escreveu: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: *Date: *March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT *From: *mário navarro mario@gmail.com mailto:mario@gmail.com *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject: **Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8* *Reply-To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:*
Re: m4b-files?
Hi Anouk, by default, iTunes remembers your place in M4B files because they are typically used for spoken word material, so it makes sense for it to do so. You can also make iTunes remember your place in any file by setting this option in the info tab. It's good for audiobooks that are in MP3 or M4A format. In all cases where iTunes remembers your place, the place is synchronised when you sync iTunes with a mobile device, so you can listen to something for a bit on your computer, sync with your iPhone and pick up where you left off. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 29/03/2015, at 1:47 pm, Anouk Radix radix.an...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am playing an m4b file, never played one before and am using itunes to do it (thats why i sent my last question). To my amazement when i stopped the file and reopened it it resumed where i left off! Is this an itunes setting or is this something pertaining to the file format? thanks, Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
I just don't read any of his messages. I skip on to the next one as soon as his name is announced. On 3/28/15, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps a good short-term solution would be to make a rule the filters this idiot into the trash box. God knows when a moderator will be back on the list. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 4:58 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: My apologies. that was not intended. I hope nobody was further offended by the copying of the traffic. However both the email addresses suggested for contacting the moderator have not worked and have each returned delivery failure messages. I have attempted to make contact via the Google Groups Web page but I am not sure that this has worked either. I will wait to see if anybody is actually monitoring the list. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 23:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Wow! that was ridiculously! easy!
OK, I must say, I'm incredibly impressed! I just logged into my gmail account via the web interface. I found one of Mario's e-mails, and determined that his e-mail address is: mario@gmail.com Once I got this info, I clicked on settings. Then there was a link that said filters. Once I clicked on filters, I saw a table that had nothing in it, as I had no filters set up on the gmail server side of things. I then found a button to add a filter. Once I went in here, it was a two step process. First it wanted me to give it the criteria of what I wanted to filter specifically. I left all the fields totally empty with the exception that in the from field, I typed in his e-mail address. mario@gmail.com Then, I didn't test the search settings so I don't know how that would really work. I'm totally confident that this will work. I just basically then scrolled down and hit vo+space on the next step button. Now, on this screen, it asked me what I wanted to do when it encounters a mail from him. there is a set of checkboxes, and one of them says delete it. I checked that box, thed then applied the filter. Now, when I look in that table that used to be empty, I now see one filter rule, which is this one. Then below it, I see two buttons. One to delete, and one to edit. Great great job by google making this so accessible! I really thought it was gonna be way harder! that was an absolute breeze! I literally had it done in under five minutes! If anyone needs help doing this, get up with me on Skype, and I'll walk you through it. My Skype name is: chris28210. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
Donna, What bothers me mostly about this entire thread is that those unlike you, and the Believer, etc. will not present the list with any rock-solid examples of how things are still broken. How must one expect us to believe them if they won't even back up their comments with anything worthwhile. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 9:19 AM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I have to agree with the believer, here. I don't know what you guys are talking about. Many of Yuma's comments are about whether Apple is still on the cutting edge. I agree that Tim Cook and Johnny Ives aren't the visionaries that Steve Jobs was, there's no question about that. But in terms of the actual products, I've got IOS 8.2 on my phone, and I actually find Voiceover to be more responsive than with IOS 8.0, so it seems pretty clear to me that they made some accessibility improvements. I'm running Yosemite on my MBA, and am happy with that as well. I don't feel in anyway that accessibility is being pushed off to the side. Are there things that could be improved, absolutely. But Apple is still doing a better job than any other company of building native accessibility into its products. I had to use Windows 8 at my old job, and I can say truthfully it'd be a cold day in hell before I switch back to a PC. I haven't used an Android phone since 2010, and I'm sure the landscape there has changed significantly since then. But when I did try it, the experience did not bring me joy. This is just my experience, and as such, it is not intended to invalidate the experiences of anyone who may actually be having problems, just to say that not all of us are. Don't know why some would be while others aren't, but perhaps that is the case. Best, Donna On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:01 AM, mário navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Jon Solitro To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon Solitro Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I
Re: To the moderators, is this really the type of person or content you want on this list?
Plus 1 this! I whole-heartedly agree! --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 2:16 PM Subject: To the moderators, is this really the type of person or content you want on this list? I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: Date: March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT From: mário navarro mario@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
That is so weird! I have a bluetooth Apple keyboard, and an IPad Air wifi only 32 GB space gray first gen running 8.2. they definitely work. I'm curious to know if you guys having these issues are jailbroken? If not, what devices do you have specifically? What I O S devices, and what keyboards? I'm just trying earnestly to pinpoint down why it wouldn't work for some of you, yet for others it does. I'll gladly make a recording here in a bit to show you all that the bluetooth keyboard is working on my end. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:57 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 It's good that you mentioned the bluetooth keyboard issue. Just updated last night and now my keyboard doesn't work when Voiceover is on. Fantastic. Sent from my iPad On Mar 28, 2015, at 11:10 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: It was certainly broken when 8.0 was initially released for sure. As they have updated the software, there have been bug fixes. There are still Bluetooth keyboard problems and a few strange navigation issues still present. However, my understanding is that 8.3 has specific VoiceOver bug fixes in it. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain Lion AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:49 AM, mário navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: shut your mouth silly! everything is still unresolved ... think first before you talk... cheers. Em 28/03/2015 03:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Whatever people. I'm telling you that Apple did break it, yes, but that is the key word... Did! Things work very well now, and if you don't believe me, tell me what you had an issue with, and I'll make an audio demo showing it's been fixed. Maybe then, you'll believe me. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it. On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote: I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead of truly
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
Ipad 2 and zag keys Bluetooth keyboard Sent from my phone On Mar 28, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: That is so weird! I have a bluetooth Apple keyboard, and an IPad Air wifi only 32 GB space gray first gen running 8.2. they definitely work. I'm curious to know if you guys having these issues are jailbroken? If not, what devices do you have specifically? What I O S devices, and what keyboards? I'm just trying earnestly to pinpoint down why it wouldn't work for some of you, yet for others it does. I'll gladly make a recording here in a bit to show you all that the bluetooth keyboard is working on my end. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:57 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 It's good that you mentioned the bluetooth keyboard issue. Just updated last night and now my keyboard doesn't work when Voiceover is on. Fantastic. Sent from my iPad On Mar 28, 2015, at 11:10 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: It was certainly broken when 8.0 was initially released for sure. As they have updated the software, there have been bug fixes. There are still Bluetooth keyboard problems and a few strange navigation issues still present. However, my understanding is that 8.3 has specific VoiceOver bug fixes in it. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain Lion AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:49 AM, mário navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: shut your mouth silly! everything is still unresolved ... think first before you talk... cheers. Em 28/03/2015 03:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Whatever people. I'm telling you that Apple did break it, yes, but that is the key word... Did! Things work very well now, and if you don't believe me, tell me what you had an issue with, and I'll make an audio demo showing it's been fixed. Maybe then, you'll believe me. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it. On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote: I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
John, Did you see the recent post on the list? That might explain why it works for some and not others. It's very likely that your Zagg keyboard isn't transmitting with the correct compatible version of Bluetooth. Apparently, 4.2 isn't supported. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 5:27 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 Ipad 2 and zag keys Bluetooth keyboard Sent from my phone On Mar 28, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: That is so weird! I have a bluetooth Apple keyboard, and an IPad Air wifi only 32 GB space gray first gen running 8.2. they definitely work. I'm curious to know if you guys having these issues are jailbroken? If not, what devices do you have specifically? What I O S devices, and what keyboards? I'm just trying earnestly to pinpoint down why it wouldn't work for some of you, yet for others it does. I'll gladly make a recording here in a bit to show you all that the bluetooth keyboard is working on my end. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:57 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 It's good that you mentioned the bluetooth keyboard issue. Just updated last night and now my keyboard doesn't work when Voiceover is on. Fantastic. Sent from my iPad On Mar 28, 2015, at 11:10 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: It was certainly broken when 8.0 was initially released for sure. As they have updated the software, there have been bug fixes. There are still Bluetooth keyboard problems and a few strange navigation issues still present. However, my understanding is that 8.3 has specific VoiceOver bug fixes in it. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain Lion AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:49 AM, mário navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: shut your mouth silly! everything is still unresolved ... think first before you talk... cheers. Em 28/03/2015 03:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Whatever people. I'm telling you that Apple did break it, yes, but that is the key word... Did! Things work very well now, and if you don't believe me, tell me what you had an issue with, and I'll make an audio demo showing it's been fixed. Maybe then, you'll believe me. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it. On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote: I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty.
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
David and group, This went to the group. Here is what we ALL need to learn to do. Whoever the perv is, it absolutely cannot be dictated to in this medium for none of us outside of the group owner, have control. People like this thrive on the attention it gets. The more it gets, the more crap it throws back. We enable it by responding to it. The ONLY thing we can do is to completely ignore it. 100%. Let it run its course. The group owner will deal with it. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 4:19 PM, David Griffith wrote: Hello thought I should bring your attention to the inappropriate behaviour of an a list member today. Many of us feel he needs to be removed from the list. Some examples are below. On 28/03/2015 18:21, mário navarro wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith On 28/03/2015 18:34, mário navarro wrote: fuck you bitch. your pussy stinks. Em 28/03/2015 18:16, Donna Goodin escreveu: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: *Date: *March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT *From: *mário navarro mario@gmail.com mailto:mario@gmail.com *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject: **Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8* *Reply-To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote:
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
Oh, really? Gotcha. I'm going by the little I know from other listservs. That probably explains why in the past all my owner request e-mails have bounced with other google Groups. So, then, please can you provide us with the exact procedure to contact the owner of a Google Group such as this one? Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:56 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List By the way, there is no email address for a googlegroups owner, one must use a web form. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 4:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:19 PM Subject: Inappropriate Responsses on List Hello thought I should bring your attention to the inappropriate behaviour of an a list member today. Many of us feel he needs to be removed from the list. Some examples are below. On 28/03/2015 18:21, mário navarro wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith On 28/03/2015 18:34, mário navarro wrote: fuck you bitch. your pussy stinks. Em 28/03/2015 18:16, Donna Goodin escreveu: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: *Date: *March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT *From: *mário navarro mario@gmail.com mailto:mario@gmail.com *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject: **Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8* *Reply-To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
Need to go online at the Macvisionaries page gf Googlegroups. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 5:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Oh, really? Gotcha. I'm going by the little I know from other listservs. That probably explains why in the past all my owner request e-mails have bounced with other google Groups. So, then, please can you provide us with the exact procedure to contact the owner of a Google Group such as this one? Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:56 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List By the way, there is no email address for a googlegroups owner, one must use a web form. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 4:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:19 PM Subject: Inappropriate Responsses on List Hello thought I should bring your attention to the inappropriate behaviour of an a list member today. Many of us feel he needs to be removed from the list. Some examples are below. On 28/03/2015 18:21, mário navarro wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith On 28/03/2015 18:34, mário navarro wrote: fuck you bitch. your pussy stinks. Em 28/03/2015 18:16, Donna Goodin escreveu: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: *Date: *March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT *From: *mário navarro mario@gmail.com mailto:mario@gmail.com *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject: **Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8* *Reply-To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've
Problem with numbers
Hello, I am very frustrated and would appreciate any help you all can provide. I am working on a large table in numbers. It is very simple and very basic. Everything was going fine until I got to Road number 26. All of a sudden I could not enter any more data. I could interact with the cell, and the letters were read to me by voice over as I typed them in. However, when I went back to check row 26 there was nothing there. What could be happening? Any suggestions? Thanks very much. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Ahahahahahaha, what a big idiot you are. for now you have the biggest head full of shit. lol. Em 28/03/2015 23:58, David Griffith escreveu: My apologies. that was not intended. I hope nobody was further offended by the copying of the traffic. However both the email addresses suggested for contacting the moderator have not worked and have each returned delivery failure messages. I have attempted to make contact via the Google Groups Web page but I am not sure that this has worked either. I will wait to see if anybody is actually monitoring the list. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 23:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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This sounds like Mario is either demon possessed, way off his meds, or it's just some kid who hacked his account and is having himself a high time. Whatever the case it's beginning to lose its amusement value, Not upsetting, just boring. Sent from my IPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:18 PM, mário navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: Hey, stupid. what are you trying to do. fucking head? You don't have intelligence for it. You have your head full of shit and think shit. ahahahahahahah. lol. I will not go out with my feets. I will stay here to see all the idiots like you doing shit... You all just got shit in your brains, and can only think about shit... And shit attracts shit. Lol. I'm gonna stay here laughing all of you and see which one of you has more shit in the head. ahahahahahahahaha. let the show begin! Em 28/03/2015 23:20, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Wow, I was very close. I thought it was +owner, not +moderator. Whoops? Thanks for the correction; you learn something new each day. Smile. God bless. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Moderators David; The e-mail address for the group moderator is: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com - Bill Leader Dog Holland - Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:53 PM Subject: Moderators Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blocking with I O S, was: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
Oh wow! 1993? Man, I was only 12 then! I wonder what the internet was like back then! Very slow! Yeah, duh! LOL! Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Jason White ja...@jasonjgw.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:03 PM Subject: Re: Blocking with I O S, was: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry but, it takes a fair amount to get me to block someone's e-mails, but the last mail that Mario sent to Mary put me over the top. It affected me similarly, i.e., I'm very hurt and disappointed. I've added the following to my Procmail rules on the server that I run, which handles my incoming mail: :0: * ^from_mario@gmail.com /dev/null I've been on the Internet since 1993, and this is only the second time I've had to block a specific address. Let's hope the mailing list administrators take decisive action. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Moderators
Wow, just wow. You realize with that response you will be wrong the matter what. Very immature and disgraceful. Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse any errors. On Mar 28, 2015, at 1:21 PM, mário navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
Devin, I totally agree with your comment here. I don't think they meant necessarily to break things, but this is what happens when you get all herky jerky with things, and start flying through not paying attention. Why do you think these idiot drivers who come speeding around corners/red lights tend to wreck more frequently? Point made, I hope. LOL! Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 5:12 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 My only problem with Apple at this point is that they're just a little too excited. They rush on and trip over their own releases. They just gotta slow down a little and put in a good automated quality control. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Totally agree. Actually, it works quite well. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:11 AM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 It ain't broke now. iOS 8.2 is on both my iPhone and iPad. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/27/2015 7:48 PM, Pamela Francis wrote: I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it. On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote: I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces. 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to know that most companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to be broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 dollar piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and moments where you want to throw that damn thing out the window and never touch it again is clearly not what I call good experience on a computer. More and more of my friends, mac users, both sighted and visually impaired, agree with me that apple is starting to rot in terms of presenting it’s image. It’s not an underdog but a huge bulky oil tanker that can now only
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
Hello All, I finally opened this thread only to discover the initial post so inflammatory. However, I am not personalizing the fowl language at all. Yesterday, when out and about I was having problems with my Voyager Plus BT headset. it frequently bots its connection. and I needed to pair it back to my iFhone 6. The funny thing is that I didn't realize that it could be a conflict between iOS 8.2 and VO. I did stop in at the Apple store and the rep that helped me gave solutions, but didn't have a clue that it might be a bug that hasn't been fixed yet. I haven't tried any other BT devices to see if there is an issue with them. I did turn off/on my phone, and a hard reset, but I haven't tested the earpiece again with the phone. Just thought I would chime in with my most recent experience. Thanks for listening. Cheers, Eileene. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: My only problem with Apple at this point is that they're just a little too excited. They rush on and trip over their own releases. They just gotta slow down a little and put in a good automated quality control. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Totally agree. Actually, it works quite well. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:11 AM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 It ain't broke now. iOS 8.2 is on both my iPhone and iPad. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/27/2015 7:48 PM, Pamela Francis wrote: I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it. On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote: I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces. 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to know that most companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to be broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 dollar piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and
Re: Moderators
Methinks Senor Navarro is in serious need of anger management! - Bill Leader Dog Holland - Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
Meh. I, at least, definitely was not at all offended. Dont' worry about it. Mistakes happen. We're all human, and make booboos at times. No hard feelings. It's all good. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:58 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List My apologies. that was not intended. I hope nobody was further offended by the copying of the traffic. However both the email addresses suggested for contacting the moderator have not worked and have each returned delivery failure messages. I have attempted to make contact via the Google Groups Web page but I am not sure that this has worked either. I will wait to see if anybody is actually monitoring the list. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 23:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
You are not human. you just have a body of shit with ahead full a shit. fucking head... and soon the Flyes will eat all the shit in this group. no hard feelings. Em 29/03/2015 00:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Meh. I, at least, definitely was not at all offended. Dont' worry about it. Mistakes happen. We're all human, and make booboos at times. No hard feelings. It's all good. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:58 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List My apologies. that was not intended. I hope nobody was further offended by the copying of the traffic. However both the email addresses suggested for contacting the moderator have not worked and have each returned delivery failure messages. I have attempted to make contact via the Google Groups Web page but I am not sure that this has worked either. I will wait to see if anybody is actually monitoring the list. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 23:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: m4b-files?
It's the file format. I can't remember which it is, it's either command+left and right arrow, or it might be command+option+right arrow. I admit I don't really listen to books on my mac very much, but I think one of those two will actually jump you from chapter to chapter. Realize this depends on how the book is formatted as well. In other words, it might not literally be a chapter jump, but then again, it should be. I'd suggest having a look up in the menu bar, as I think those commands might be listed. I'm pretty sure they're in the control menu. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Anouk Radix radix.an...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 8:47 PM Subject: m4b-files? Hi, I am playing an m4b file, never played one before and am using itunes to do it (thats why i sent my last question). To my amazement when i stopped the file and reopened it it resumed where i left off! Is this an itunes setting or is this something pertaining to the file format? thanks, Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
I agree with David here 100%. I don't know if I'd say necessarily spoiled though. We have no way of knowing that one way or another. I however do agree that his comments are uncalled for... very much so, I do. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 9:32 AM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around.
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
Perhaps a good short-term solution would be to make a rule the filters this idiot into the trash box. God knows when a moderator will be back on the list. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 4:58 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: My apologies. that was not intended. I hope nobody was further offended by the copying of the traffic. However both the email addresses suggested for contacting the moderator have not worked and have each returned delivery failure messages. I have attempted to make contact via the Google Groups Web page but I am not sure that this has worked either. I will wait to see if anybody is actually monitoring the list. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 23:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Blocking with I O S, was: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
I wonder if there is a way to block e-mail senders with I O S. I know it can be done with Mail on the mac, but I've never seen an option on I O S, which is actually quite surprising. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List Perhaps a good short-term solution would be to make a rule the filters this idiot into the trash box. God knows when a moderator will be back on the list. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 4:58 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: My apologies. that was not intended. I hope nobody was further offended by the copying of the traffic. However both the email addresses suggested for contacting the moderator have not worked and have each returned delivery failure messages. I have attempted to make contact via the Google Groups Web page but I am not sure that this has worked either. I will wait to see if anybody is actually monitoring the list. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 23:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
John, I confess that I really haven't done a lot with bluetooth on my I O S devices, aside from using bluetooth headsets such as my Aftershokz Bluez. Can you please explain a bit further your findings regarding bluetooth? I don't doubt you in the least, I just haven't personally found any myself. I'd be interested though in your observations more specifically. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 11:10 AM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 It was certainly broken when 8.0 was initially released for sure. As they have updated the software, there have been bug fixes. There are still Bluetooth keyboard problems and a few strange navigation issues still present. However, my understanding is that 8.3 has specific VoiceOver bug fixes in it. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain Lion AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:49 AM, mário navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: shut your mouth silly! everything is still unresolved ... think first before you talk... cheers. Em 28/03/2015 03:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Whatever people. I'm telling you that Apple did break it, yes, but that is the key word... Did! Things work very well now, and if you don't believe me, tell me what you had an issue with, and I'll make an audio demo showing it's been fixed. Maybe then, you'll believe me. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it. On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote: I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces. 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to know that most companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to be broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer,
Re: To the moderators, is this really the type of person or content you want on this list?
Hacked account... possible, I won't discount it, and if that truely be the case, then my most profuse apology to the legitimate account holder, but otherwise, no way! I'd say that hacking is unlikely. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 3:42 PM Subject: Re: To the moderators, is this really the type of person or content you want on this list? agreed. I would say that whoever it is, they might have a hacked account they need to take care of. back to the subject of macs… -eric On Mar 28, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Moderators
David; The e-mail address for the group moderator is: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com - Bill Leader Dog Holland - Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:53 PM Subject: Moderators Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Busy, Busy, Busy -- It's DrivingMe Nuts
I'm connected via a NetGear wireless router. - Bill Leader Dog Holland - Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) - Original Message - From: Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Busy, Busy, Busy -- It's DrivingMe Nuts Hi, No, that shouldn’t affect anything. I have multiple devices accessing my iCloud account simultaneously both at home and at work. I also have a gMail account through Google App, a Pop account through my ISP, and two other iMap accounts for other duties all configured through Mail with no busy problems at all. What kind of router are you using? Are you connected via WiFi or ethernet? Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 27, 2015, at 08:58, Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net wrote: I had 3 accounts set up, but when this problem initially manifested itself I disabled all but my iCloud.com account. That is set up as an IMAP account. But, both the iPhones I have also access this account; is it possible that may be causing some sort of problem? - Bill Leader Dog Holland - Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) - Original Message - From: Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 9:26 AM Subject: Re: Busy, Busy, Busy -- It's DrivingMe Nuts Hi, I haven’t heard of many experiencing this, so, I’m guessing that it has something to do with your personal configuration or situation. That machine is plenty powerful enough to handle the job. Some questions to determine what may be causing the issues: 1. What Mail view do you use? Modern or Classic? 2. Do you have multiple Mail accounts? i.e.., gMail, iCloud, local ISP? 3. What protocol do your accounts use? iMap, Pop, Exchange? 4. Is your Preview pane enabled or disabled? 5. Which navigation method do you normally use? That is, navigate to message then VO-j to read it or navigate to the message then hit return to read it? • If you have multiple accounts, try disabling all but one of them. Does the busy tendency go away? If so, turn on other accounts one at a time to try to determine which account may be causing the problem. You disable accounts in Mail Prefs, in the Accounts pane. Select the accounts from the Accounts table, then uncheck the “Enable this Account” checkbox. • If your Preview pane is enabled, try disabling it to see if that makes a difference. HTH. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 27, 2015, at 08:09, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote: I have had this issue with far too much frequency lately, and only with mail. Permissions repair has helped in the past, but it did not work the past few times. What I was finding was as I tried to read my messages, whenever this problem occurred, I was hearing “900 cells selected” or something like that, when I had selected nothing. The only thing which seems to help me is stopping interaction with messages, going into the mailbox table, deselecting mailboxes, re-selecting my InBox, stopping interaction with the mailbox table and moving to the Messages column. I don’t know why, and sometimes I have to do this two or three times, but eventually it sorts itself out. But it is excruciatingly annoying when it happens, since I cannot figure out what I am doing which causes it to occur in the first place. Good luck. Christine P.s. I am using a MacBook Air with Mavericks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options,
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
You going where fucking head? you can't go anywhere, because you just got shit on your head. ahahahahahah, lol. Wherever you go, all the people go away from you because you smell badly on distance. Em 29/03/2015 00:24, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Oh, really? Gotcha. I'm going by the little I know from other listservs. That probably explains why in the past all my owner request e-mails have bounced with other google Groups. So, then, please can you provide us with the exact procedure to contact the owner of a Google Group such as this one? Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:56 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List By the way, there is no email address for a googlegroups owner, one must use a web form. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 4:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:19 PM Subject: Inappropriate Responsses on List Hello thought I should bring your attention to the inappropriate behaviour of an a list member today. Many of us feel he needs to be removed from the list. Some examples are below. On 28/03/2015 18:21, mário navarro wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith On 28/03/2015 18:34, mário navarro wrote: fuck you bitch. your pussy stinks. Em 28/03/2015 18:16, Donna Goodin escreveu: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: *Date: *March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT *From: *mário navarro mario@gmail.com mailto:mario@gmail.com *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject: **Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8* *Reply-To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when
is it possible to timejump in itunes?
Hi everyone, I have a rather long audio file that i have to play within itunes, but i cant play it all at once. I noticed that, although you can rewind and fast forward with option+command+left/right arrow it somehow does not seem to work as well as with vlc. So I was wondering if its possible to timejump to a specefic time in the file? I do see the time elapsed and time left just not a command in the menus to jump to a specefic segment. Thanks in advance for any info, Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Problem with numbers
Sometimes numbers just throws a shoe. Try to stop interacting with the table move away then back and interact again. Sometimes that corrects things and it starts working okay. Otherwise, just close out numbers and then restart. I've had this happen to me recently and this is fix the problem. At worst, you may have to restore to an earlier point to get back any work you may have lost. Good luck, Sent from my IPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:30 PM, Nancy Badger nancybad...@icloud.com wrote: Hello, I am very frustrated and would appreciate any help you all can provide. I am working on a large table in numbers. It is very simple and very basic. Everything was going fine until I got to Road number 26. All of a sudden I could not enter any more data. I could interact with the cell, and the letters were read to me by voice over as I typed them in. However, when I went back to check row 26 there was nothing there. What could be happening? Any suggestions? Thanks very much. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: m4b-files?
Jonathan, That's really cool! I was not aware that you, too, could do this with other file formats, let alone that they would sync the positions across devices. Talk about a handy feature! Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 9:04 PM Subject: Re: m4b-files? Hi Anouk, by default, iTunes remembers your place in M4B files because they are typically used for spoken word material, so it makes sense for it to do so. You can also make iTunes remember your place in any file by setting this option in the info tab. It's good for audiobooks that are in MP3 or M4A format. In all cases where iTunes remembers your place, the place is synchronised when you sync iTunes with a mobile device, so you can listen to something for a bit on your computer, sync with your iPhone and pick up where you left off. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 29/03/2015, at 1:47 pm, Anouk Radix radix.an...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am playing an m4b file, never played one before and am using itunes to do it (thats why i sent my last question). To my amazement when i stopped the file and reopened it it resumed where i left off! Is this an itunes setting or is this something pertaining to the file format? thanks, Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blocking with I O S, was: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
I can't ever recall finding a way to do it either in the IOS mail app itself nor in settings. Now, maybe, what you have to do is that if you get an offensive e-mail, you can go in to more info, add that e-mail as a contact then block from that angle. Then again, I can't now recall whether you have to add the offensive sender as a contact before you can do this. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if there is a way to block e-mail senders with I O S. I know it can be done with Mail on the mac, but I've never seen an option on I O S, which is actually quite surprising. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List Perhaps a good short-term solution would be to make a rule the filters this idiot into the trash box. God knows when a moderator will be back on the list. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 4:58 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: My apologies. that was not intended. I hope nobody was further offended by the copying of the traffic. However both the email addresses suggested for contacting the moderator have not worked and have each returned delivery failure messages. I have attempted to make contact via the Google Groups Web page but I am not sure that this has worked either. I will wait to see if anybody is actually monitoring the list. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 23:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
Hi Mary. can you tell me what its your name of war in the world of the prostitution? Oh wait. Maybe I guess... Mary Queen of the lesbians. This is? I bet I guessed. I'm sorry for having revealed your secret. Mary, you are so ugly with face and body of man no man fucks you. You have the body of a man, and you look like a washboard. You have a breath from the mouth to lick pussy bitch that you can kill anyone just to open your mouth. Fuck you, Queen of lesbians. Em 29/03/2015 00:51, Mary Otten escreveu: Perhaps a good short-term solution would be to make a rule the filters this idiot into the trash box. God knows when a moderator will be back on the list. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 4:58 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: My apologies. that was not intended. I hope nobody was further offended by the copying of the traffic. However both the email addresses suggested for contacting the moderator have not worked and have each returned delivery failure messages. I have attempted to make contact via the Google Groups Web page but I am not sure that this has worked either. I will wait to see if anybody is actually monitoring the list. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 23:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blocking with I O S, was: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry but, it takes a fair amount to get me to block someone's e-mails, but the last mail that Mario sent to Mary put me over the top. It affected me similarly, i.e., I'm very hurt and disappointed. I've added the following to my Procmail rules on the server that I run, which handles my incoming mail: :0: * ^from_mario@gmail.com /dev/null I've been on the Internet since 1993, and this is only the second time I've had to block a specific address. Let's hope the mailing list administrators take decisive action. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: To the moderators, is this really the type of person or content you want on this list?
agreed. I would say that whoever it is, they might have a hacked account they need to take care of. back to the subject of macs… -eric On Mar 28, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
Sounds like from what I am hearing you all say, there are still bluetooth issues. In you all's defense, this would explain greatly why I might have missed a lot of these things. I personally don't use a bluetooth keyboard very frequently, and I don't own any sort of a braille note taker, nor display, so I wouldn't have any idea on those two fronts. Let's hope these things are fixed in 8.3. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Matthew Dierckens To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 11:21 AM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 There are Braille display issues as well. I am awaiting the day when we can type normally on the display, and not have the device lock up if you are a fast Brailler. God bless. Matthew Dierckens Certified Assistive Technology Specialist Macintosh, Windows and IOS Trainer U.S. number: 573-401-1018 Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com On Mar 28, 2015, at 11:10, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: It was certainly broken when 8.0 was initially released for sure. As they have updated the software, there have been bug fixes. There are still Bluetooth keyboard problems and a few strange navigation issues still present. However, my understanding is that 8.3 has specific VoiceOver bug fixes in it. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain Lion AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:49 AM, mário navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: shut your mouth silly! everything is still unresolved ... think first before you talk... cheers. Em 28/03/2015 03:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Whatever people. I'm telling you that Apple did break it, yes, but that is the key word... Did! Things work very well now, and if you don't believe me, tell me what you had an issue with, and I'll make an audio demo showing it's been fixed. Maybe then, you'll believe me. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it. On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote: I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who
Re: Moderators
Hi, I think that it’s about time that Mario be banned. I’m not sure that I’ve heard much positive contribution out of his posts for quite some time. This post, to me, shows a total disregard to all the members of the MacVisionaries list and proves that his motives are simply disruptive and disrespectful. Nothing that anyone else on this thread has posted should be deserving of this sort of garbage response. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 28, 2015, at 12:21, mário navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
Totally agree. Actually, it works quite well. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:11 AM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 It ain't broke now. iOS 8.2 is on both my iPhone and iPad. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/27/2015 7:48 PM, Pamela Francis wrote: I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it. On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote: I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces. 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to know that most companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to be broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 dollar piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and moments where you want to throw that damn thing out the window and never touch it again is clearly not what I call good experience on a computer. More and more of my friends, mac users, both sighted and visually impaired, agree with me that apple is starting to rot in terms of presenting it’s image. It’s not an underdog but a huge bulky oil tanker that can now only manuver slowly with a battalion of lawyers behind murmuring at the chief’s ears, the latter being probably more complacent than should be, thus giving us this weird awkward show each year now with a barely straight talking TIm Cook who sounds like he never had a girl friend chill time or something seems amiss in him. Some soul? Something. Whatever the case, I don’t really dig the style apple is portraying. It’s becoming a disney world presentation with hs and aaahs when the tech behind is quite literally lagging. No visionary stuff, when this qualification should by now, from all the sci fi, the research and the graduations of bright people, should lead us much farther in terms of actual interaction with a computer, and let’s not forget screen readers. Anyway, off for my morning coffee. Have a great day yall Yuma Antoine Decaux Light has no value without darkness Mob: +612102277190 Skype: Shainobi1 twitter:
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
Aa! Now, I get it. So that would definitely explain why my Apple keyboard still works. I'll betcha it's not connecting via 4.2. No wonder. Now you have me curious. I wonder what protocol version it is! connecting over. Time to google I reckon. LOL! Thank you for the added information. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 3:54 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 Hello Jon, Apparently, the update to iOS 8.2 stopped devices using bluetooth 4.2 connecting to iOS devices. I encountered this problem with my Okoia bathroom scales which communicate with the Airscale app and were working fine until I updated from iOS 8.1.3 to iOS 8.2 at which point the connection failed. I contacted the app developer who has kept me informed about what’s happening. I also reported the problem to Apple. Bluetooth 4.2 is the most recent version of bluetooth, so I imagine Apple will be keen to fix this problem. Cheers, Anne On 28 Mar 2015, at 18:57, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote: It's good that you mentioned the bluetooth keyboard issue. Just updated last night and now my keyboard doesn't work when Voiceover is on. Fantastic. Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:19 PM Subject: Inappropriate Responsses on List Hello thought I should bring your attention to the inappropriate behaviour of an a list member today. Many of us feel he needs to be removed from the list. Some examples are below. On 28/03/2015 18:21, mário navarro wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith On 28/03/2015 18:34, mário navarro wrote: fuck you bitch. your pussy stinks. Em 28/03/2015 18:16, Donna Goodin escreveu: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: *Date: *March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT *From: *mário navarro mario@gmail.com mailto:mario@gmail.com *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject: **Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8* *Reply-To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower
Re: Moderators
Hey, stupid. what are you trying to do. fucking head? You don't have intelligence for it. You have your head full of shit and think shit. ahahahahahahah. lol. I will not go out with my feets. I will stay here to see all the idiots like you doing shit... You all just got shit in your brains, and can only think about shit... And shit attracts shit. Lol. I'm gonna stay here laughing all of you and see which one of you has more shit in the head. ahahahahahahahaha. let the show begin! Em 28/03/2015 23:20, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Wow, I was very close. I thought it was +owner, not +moderator. Whoops? Thanks for the correction; you learn something new each day. Smile. God bless. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Moderators David; The e-mail address for the group moderator is: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com - Bill Leader Dog Holland - Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:53 PM Subject: Moderators Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
The shit can only suspect the shit. Em 29/03/2015 00:35, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: OK. that's actually kind of what I suspected, but figured that I'd ask. Thank you for your help. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 8:29 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List Need to go online at the Macvisionaries page gf Googlegroups. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 5:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Oh, really? Gotcha. I'm going by the little I know from other listservs. That probably explains why in the past all my owner request e-mails have bounced with other google Groups. So, then, please can you provide us with the exact procedure to contact the owner of a Google Group such as this one? Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:56 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List By the way, there is no email address for a googlegroups owner, one must use a web form. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 4:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:19 PM Subject: Inappropriate Responsses on List Hello thought I should bring your attention to the inappropriate behaviour of an a list member today. Many of us feel he needs to be removed from the list. Some examples are below. On 28/03/2015 18:21, mário navarro wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith On 28/03/2015 18:34, mário navarro wrote: fuck you bitch. your pussy stinks. Em 28/03/2015 18:16, Donna Goodin escreveu: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: *Date: *March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT *From: *mário navarro mario@gmail.com mailto:mario@gmail.com *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject: **Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8* *Reply-To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message
m4b-files?
Hi, I am playing an m4b file, never played one before and am using itunes to do it (thats why i sent my last question). To my amazement when i stopped the file and reopened it it resumed where i left off! Is this an itunes setting or is this something pertaining to the file format? thanks, Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
Hey, asshole. your head is about to explode with so much shit accumulated. go spread up to other side. stupid idiot. this is not the way. go away piece of shit. Em 28/03/2015 23:19, David Griffith escreveu: Hello thought I should bring your attention to the inappropriate behaviour of an a list member today. Many of us feel he needs to be removed from the list. Some examples are below. On 28/03/2015 18:21, mário navarro wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith On 28/03/2015 18:34, mário navarro wrote: fuck you bitch. your pussy stinks. Em 28/03/2015 18:16, Donna Goodin escreveu: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: *Date: *March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT *From: *mário navarro mario@gmail.com mailto:mario@gmail.com *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject: **Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8* *Reply-To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to
Re: About VPN
That was very helpful. Yes, it appears that VPN would not be of great benefit to me. For some time I wanted to know what it was for and now I know. Thanks much. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 5:34 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: That will depend on what uses you intend to put it to. VPNs (Virtual Private Networks) typically extend internal, private networks across the Internet, for business uses. They do this by tunnelling the traffic that needs to traverse the Internet inside an encrypted session between devices at the edges of the network that face the Internet. Internal devices then appear to be communicating with other internal nodes that are really distant from them, essentially using the Internet and encryption as a substitute for private leased lines where the security guarantees of the public Internet alone are inadequate. These days, all Internet traffic that is not encrypted should be considered vulnerable. The useful side-effect of the VPN technology, as it applies to VPN services, is that you can essentially purchase access to a virtual leased line solely for accessing the Internet. You obtain a VPN account and then route all your traffic, including Internet traffic, through it. That means that the Internet sees traffic from the vantage point of the line owner, and not yourself. People thus use VPNs for, say, browsing more anonymously. Typical uses for VPN services are: geoblock circumvention (the VPN endpoint is in another geographic region than you), anonymity and/or privacy (the endpoint is supposedly in a place less harbouring of interests that are in conflict with one’s own than one’s own service provider or government), content restriction avoidance (a corporate or governmental restriction that you find undesirable), deep-packet-inspection avoidance (network-level discrimination, filtering or modification of data occurring on one’s own network that is made harder or impossible by the encryption layer of the VPN). Some people also use VPNs solely so they can access public Wi-Fi access points, but in my opinion this is a rather pointless thing to do, because it really only serves to obscure the underlying vulnerability of unencrypted data and the risks of using public Wi-Fi; still, it’s true that on an open Wi-Fi access point, if you use a VPN, anybody with a packet sniffer can no longer see which websites you visit, whereas, presumably, the people who run your VPN server (or all the providers your Internet traffic passes through) will be less willing or likely to try to monitor your web browsing habits. Naturally, once again, unless it’s encrypted by SSL or other direct means, it’s insecure. Many websites offer SSL, and you should use that wherever it’s available. So to answer your question: it’s entirely possible that you don’t need a VPN at all, for either iOS or Mac. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Are you guys still there?
Donna and others, Every time the fire starts to go out, someone blows on it and it flares up. The sooner people understand this, the sooner things settle down. This inconsequetial perv cannot insult me. I do not allow it. I simply delete each emssage as it comes in. It is not worth the bother of creating a message rule for it will soon be gone. Now cut the group owner/mod some slack. It is unreasonable to expect people to monitor their groups 24/7. Again, stop replying to its messages or complaining for you only empower it. You only give it the power. Take it back by using the delete key. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 8:31 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Mario Navarro has seriously been insulting people on the list. his language has been profane and offensive, and I'm not easily offended. Where on earth are the moderators? I've been a list mod, I get it, it's sometimes a hassle but if you're going to moderate this list you need to pay attention. This guy has now sent more than 15 messages insulting people and you all seem to be nowhere to be found. Either do your job, or abdicate. What's happening on the list right now is simply not acceptable. Please do something about it ASAP. . Sincerely, Donna Goodin Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Moderators
Mario, You seem to have a fixation with fecal matter the orifice from which it proceeds. Possibly some counseling would help with the issues you seem to be exhibiting. Or, possibly you’re already under a physician’s care just need to modify your pharmaceutical regiment. Lastly, I suppose, you could be in need of an exorcist’s professional attention. But, never-the-less, you might want to consider the concept that even if you don’t agree with some of the views expressed in response to your original posts, you are probably alienating people who—sooner or later—might be in a position to help you with a Apple product related problems. Or, you might consider the idea that your offensiveness is just juvenile tiresome. Lastly, while a moderator seems to be absent, I believe that everyone would just be better off to ignore any of your posts. I sincerely hope that you will come to the realization that your not funny, just sad annoying. Ta-ta P.S. Don’t bother replying, as I won’t be reading it. On Mar 28, 2015, at 11:21 AM, mário navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: To the moderators, is this really the type of person or content you want on this list?
Hi, While I agree that ignoring poor behaviour does not fuel the fire, this is totally beyond the ignoring stage. I’m not going to threaten to leave the list or anything similar, but, no-one should have to read the profanity and insulting tone present in Mario’s posts today. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 28, 2015, at 12:16, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: Date: March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT From: mário navarro mario@gmail.com mailto:mario@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net http://www.clgproductions.net/ - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want
Re: Moderators
I also cast in my vote to have him banned, please. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 3:10 PM Subject: Re: Moderators Hi, I think that it’s about time that Mario be banned. I’m not sure that I’ve heard much positive contribution out of his posts for quite some time. This post, to me, shows a total disregard to all the members of the MacVisionaries list and proves that his motives are simply disruptive and disrespectful. Nothing that anyone else on this thread has posted should be deserving of this sort of garbage response. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 28, 2015, at 12:21, mário navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Inappropriate Responsses on List
Hello thought I should bring your attention to the inappropriate behaviour of an a list member today. Many of us feel he needs to be removed from the list. Some examples are below. On 28/03/2015 18:21, mário navarro wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith On 28/03/2015 18:34, mário navarro wrote: fuck you bitch. your pussy stinks. Em 28/03/2015 18:16, Donna Goodin escreveu: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: *Date: *March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT *From: *mário navarro mario@gmail.com mailto:mario@gmail.com *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject: **Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8* *Reply-To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going
Re: Moderators
Wow, I was very close. I thought it was +owner, not +moderator. Whoops? Thanks for the correction; you learn something new each day. Smile. God bless. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Moderators David; The e-mail address for the group moderator is: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com - Bill Leader Dog Holland - Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:53 PM Subject: Moderators Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
By the way, there is no email address for a googlegroups owner, one must use a web form. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 4:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:19 PM Subject: Inappropriate Responsses on List Hello thought I should bring your attention to the inappropriate behaviour of an a list member today. Many of us feel he needs to be removed from the list. Some examples are below. On 28/03/2015 18:21, mário navarro wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith On 28/03/2015 18:34, mário navarro wrote: fuck you bitch. your pussy stinks. Em 28/03/2015 18:16, Donna Goodin escreveu: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: *Date: *March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT *From: *mário navarro mario@gmail.com mailto:mario@gmail.com *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject: **Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8* *Reply-To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
My apologies. that was not intended. I hope nobody was further offended by the copying of the traffic. However both the email addresses suggested for contacting the moderator have not worked and have each returned delivery failure messages. I have attempted to make contact via the Google Groups Web page but I am not sure that this has worked either. I will wait to see if anybody is actually monitoring the list. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 23:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blocking with I O S, was: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
I might just be able to do it on the gmail side of things through the webmail interface. I confess, I'm not a huge fan of Google when it comes to the way that they lay out some of their stuff, but I'll see if I can figure it out. If anyone can tell me with the basic html view how to do this on gmail, step by step, that would be fantastic. I'm sorry but, it takes a fair amount to get me to block someone's e-mails, but the last mail that Mario sent to Mary put me over the top. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: Mac Visionaries List Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Blocking with I O S, was: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List I can't ever recall finding a way to do it either in the IOS mail app itself nor in settings. Now, maybe, what you have to do is that if you get an offensive e-mail, you can go in to more info, add that e-mail as a contact then block from that angle. Then again, I can't now recall whether you have to add the offensive sender as a contact before you can do this. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if there is a way to block e-mail senders with I O S. I know it can be done with Mail on the mac, but I've never seen an option on I O S, which is actually quite surprising. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List Perhaps a good short-term solution would be to make a rule the filters this idiot into the trash box. God knows when a moderator will be back on the list. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 4:58 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: My apologies. that was not intended. I hope nobody was further offended by the copying of the traffic. However both the email addresses suggested for contacting the moderator have not worked and have each returned delivery failure messages. I have attempted to make contact via the Google Groups Web page but I am not sure that this has worked either. I will wait to see if anybody is actually monitoring the list. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 23:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: Blocking with I O S, was: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
I don't think there is a way to block an individual on iOS email. But it works on the Mac. And since I have Gmail on the Mac and iOS, problem solved. Idiot gone. And hopefully the moderators will come back after spring break and take care of him in the manner which you richly deserves. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 6:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if there is a way to block e-mail senders with I O S. I know it can be done with Mail on the mac, but I've never seen an option on I O S, which is actually quite surprising. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List Perhaps a good short-term solution would be to make a rule the filters this idiot into the trash box. God knows when a moderator will be back on the list. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 4:58 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: My apologies. that was not intended. I hope nobody was further offended by the copying of the traffic. However both the email addresses suggested for contacting the moderator have not worked and have each returned delivery failure messages. I have attempted to make contact via the Google Groups Web page but I am not sure that this has worked either. I will wait to see if anybody is actually monitoring the list. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 23:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blocking with I O S, was: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
It can, yes, but I need to look into exactly how. The last time I tried logging in on the web to http://www.icloud.com I didn't find it, surprisingly to be very accessible. Chris. - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:54 PM Subject: Re: Blocking with I O S, was: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List But can blocking be done on iCloud too? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 9:37 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think there is a way to block an individual on iOS email. But it works on the Mac. And since I have Gmail on the Mac and iOS, problem solved. Idiot gone. And hopefully the moderators will come back after spring break and take care of him in the manner which you richly deserves. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 6:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if there is a way to block e-mail senders with I O S. I know it can be done with Mail on the mac, but I've never seen an option on I O S, which is actually quite surprising. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List Perhaps a good short-term solution would be to make a rule the filters this idiot into the trash box. God knows when a moderator will be back on the list. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 4:58 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: My apologies. that was not intended. I hope nobody was further offended by the copying of the traffic. However both the email addresses suggested for contacting the moderator have not worked and have each returned delivery failure messages. I have attempted to make contact via the Google Groups Web page but I am not sure that this has worked either. I will wait to see if anybody is actually monitoring the list. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 23:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: Wow! that was ridiculously! easy!
I totally agree. It can be done, but it's definitely not easy, that's for sure! Chris. - Original Message - From: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 11:30 PM Subject: Re: Wow! that was ridiculously! easy! no worries. believe me, I tried the full html site. its ridiculously complicated and very hard to navigate. I have been somewhat successful at it only because of some visual help to get me around the glitches. I typically don't use full html unless I want to change some advanced settings that just aren't available in basic mode (google needs to seriously change this). -eric On Mar 28, 2015, at 7:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Eric, I just prefer the basic html side, as yes, it's way way easier. I can try to figure out how to do it the other way, if you'd like. No guarantee, but if you need me to, I can try looking into it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: Wow! that was ridiculously! easy! heh. thats on the basic html side. :) the problem I have over there right now is that I have so many filters going that not all of them get run. so, I may have to do some tweaking. unfortunately, google doesn't seem to have a report abuse link for any of the harassing emails. ah well, a filter is just about as good. -eric On Mar 28, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: OK, I must say, I'm incredibly impressed! I just logged into my gmail account via the web interface. I found one of Mario's e-mails, and determined that his e-mail address is: mario@gmail.com Once I got this info, I clicked on settings. Then there was a link that said filters. Once I clicked on filters, I saw a table that had nothing in it, as I had no filters set up on the gmail server side of things. I then found a button to add a filter. Once I went in here, it was a two step process. First it wanted me to give it the criteria of what I wanted to filter specifically. I left all the fields totally empty with the exception that in the from field, I typed in his e-mail address. mario@gmail.com Then, I didn't test the search settings so I don't know how that would really work. I'm totally confident that this will work. I just basically then scrolled down and hit vo+space on the next step button. Now, on this screen, it asked me what I wanted to do when it encounters a mail from him. there is a set of checkboxes, and one of them says delete it. I checked that box, thed then applied the filter. Now, when I look in that table that used to be empty, I now see one filter rule, which is this one. Then below it, I see two buttons. One to delete, and one to edit. Great great job by google making this so accessible! I really thought it was gonna be way harder! that was an absolute breeze! I literally had it done in under five minutes! If anyone needs help doing this, get up with me on Skype, and I'll walk you through it. My Skype name is: chris28210. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe
Re: Are you guys still there?
Donna,Give them some time. No offense, but have you considerred that they might not be home for the day? I think if we demand they do something, it certainly won't help matters. And neither will begging them. I can almost promise you, they will deal with him accordingly. It might take a day, but they definitely should. Now, if nothing's been done in the next say 3 or 4 days? Then? I may start really wonderring, but let's have a little patients. I know it's incredibly insulting. I agree, but the moderators have lives. Give them time to get through things. The more we pester them, the longer it'll take for them to go through all the pesterring messages to see his messages, realize the issue, then kick his hyney. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Wow! that was ridiculously! easy!
no worries. believe me, I tried the full html site. its ridiculously complicated and very hard to navigate. I have been somewhat successful at it only because of some visual help to get me around the glitches. I typically don't use full html unless I want to change some advanced settings that just aren't available in basic mode (google needs to seriously change this). -eric On Mar 28, 2015, at 7:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Eric, I just prefer the basic html side, as yes, it's way way easier. I can try to figure out how to do it the other way, if you'd like. No guarantee, but if you need me to, I can try looking into it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: Wow! that was ridiculously! easy! heh. thats on the basic html side. :) the problem I have over there right now is that I have so many filters going that not all of them get run. so, I may have to do some tweaking. unfortunately, google doesn't seem to have a report abuse link for any of the harassing emails. ah well, a filter is just about as good. -eric On Mar 28, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: OK, I must say, I'm incredibly impressed! I just logged into my gmail account via the web interface. I found one of Mario's e-mails, and determined that his e-mail address is: mario@gmail.com Once I got this info, I clicked on settings. Then there was a link that said filters. Once I clicked on filters, I saw a table that had nothing in it, as I had no filters set up on the gmail server side of things. I then found a button to add a filter. Once I went in here, it was a two step process. First it wanted me to give it the criteria of what I wanted to filter specifically. I left all the fields totally empty with the exception that in the from field, I typed in his e-mail address. mario@gmail.com Then, I didn't test the search settings so I don't know how that would really work. I'm totally confident that this will work. I just basically then scrolled down and hit vo+space on the next step button. Now, on this screen, it asked me what I wanted to do when it encounters a mail from him. there is a set of checkboxes, and one of them says delete it. I checked that box, thed then applied the filter. Now, when I look in that table that used to be empty, I now see one filter rule, which is this one. Then below it, I see two buttons. One to delete, and one to edit. Great great job by google making this so accessible! I really thought it was gonna be way harder! that was an absolute breeze! I literally had it done in under five minutes! If anyone needs help doing this, get up with me on Skype, and I'll walk you through it. My Skype name is: chris28210. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Are you guys still there?
Mario Navarro has seriously been insulting people on the list. his language has been profane and offensive, and I'm not easily offended. Where on earth are the moderators? I've been a list mod, I get it, it's sometimes a hassle but if you're going to moderate this list you need to pay attention. This guy has now sent more than 15 messages insulting people and you all seem to be nowhere to be found. Either do your job, or abdicate. What's happening on the list right now is simply not acceptable. Please do something about it ASAP. . Sincerely, Donna Goodin Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Wow! that was ridiculously! easy!
heh. thats on the basic html side. :) the problem I have over there right now is that I have so many filters going that not all of them get run. so, I may have to do some tweaking. unfortunately, google doesn't seem to have a report abuse link for any of the harassing emails. ah well, a filter is just about as good. -eric On Mar 28, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: OK, I must say, I'm incredibly impressed! I just logged into my gmail account via the web interface. I found one of Mario's e-mails, and determined that his e-mail address is: mario@gmail.com Once I got this info, I clicked on settings. Then there was a link that said filters. Once I clicked on filters, I saw a table that had nothing in it, as I had no filters set up on the gmail server side of things. I then found a button to add a filter. Once I went in here, it was a two step process. First it wanted me to give it the criteria of what I wanted to filter specifically. I left all the fields totally empty with the exception that in the from field, I typed in his e-mail address. mario@gmail.com Then, I didn't test the search settings so I don't know how that would really work. I'm totally confident that this will work. I just basically then scrolled down and hit vo+space on the next step button. Now, on this screen, it asked me what I wanted to do when it encounters a mail from him. there is a set of checkboxes, and one of them says delete it. I checked that box, thed then applied the filter. Now, when I look in that table that used to be empty, I now see one filter rule, which is this one. Then below it, I see two buttons. One to delete, and one to edit. Great great job by google making this so accessible! I really thought it was gonna be way harder! that was an absolute breeze! I literally had it done in under five minutes! If anyone needs help doing this, get up with me on Skype, and I'll walk you through it. My Skype name is: chris28210. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
How can a rule for this be made? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I just don't read any of his messages. I skip on to the next one as soon as his name is announced. On 3/28/15, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps a good short-term solution would be to make a rule the filters this idiot into the trash box. God knows when a moderator will be back on the list. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 4:58 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: My apologies. that was not intended. I hope nobody was further offended by the copying of the traffic. However both the email addresses suggested for contacting the moderator have not worked and have each returned delivery failure messages. I have attempted to make contact via the Google Groups Web page but I am not sure that this has worked either. I will wait to see if anybody is actually monitoring the list. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 23:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blocking with I O S, was: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
But can blocking be done on iCloud too? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 9:37 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think there is a way to block an individual on iOS email. But it works on the Mac. And since I have Gmail on the Mac and iOS, problem solved. Idiot gone. And hopefully the moderators will come back after spring break and take care of him in the manner which you richly deserves. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 6:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if there is a way to block e-mail senders with I O S. I know it can be done with Mail on the mac, but I've never seen an option on I O S, which is actually quite surprising. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List Perhaps a good short-term solution would be to make a rule the filters this idiot into the trash box. God knows when a moderator will be back on the list. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 4:58 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: My apologies. that was not intended. I hope nobody was further offended by the copying of the traffic. However both the email addresses suggested for contacting the moderator have not worked and have each returned delivery failure messages. I have attempted to make contact via the Google Groups Web page but I am not sure that this has worked either. I will wait to see if anybody is actually monitoring the list. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 23:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
ah yes, the preverbal google web form that always seems to have some accessibility issues when it comes to blind mac users (its not all that screen reader friendly with jaws on windows either). Then again, I am running an older OS X version here (the machine will not support mountain lion or later). so, some of the issues I see here may not be apparent on newer revisions of OS X. This is why the old mailing list RFC needs to be adhered to. -eric On Mar 28, 2015, at 4:56 PM, The Believer wrote: By the way, there is no email address for a googlegroups owner, one must use a web form. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 4:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:19 PM Subject: Inappropriate Responsses on List Hello thought I should bring your attention to the inappropriate behaviour of an a list member today. Many of us feel he needs to be removed from the list. Some examples are below. On 28/03/2015 18:21, mário navarro wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith On 28/03/2015 18:34, mário navarro wrote: fuck you bitch. your pussy stinks. Em 28/03/2015 18:16, Donna Goodin escreveu: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: *Date: *March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT *From: *mário navarro mario@gmail.com mailto:mario@gmail.com *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject: **Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8* *Reply-To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
Alas, it appears that there is no hack; he’s been using the same Windows+Thunderbird combination all this time. Daemonic possession it is, then. Poor soul. if not for the insults, I’d be quite sympathetic to his cause; Apple’s inattentiveness and general disrespect of users of late has been very frustrating. And yes, keeping with Google’s tradition of turning everything into a web page loaded with javascript, regardless of consequences, it does indeed appear that one needs to be signed in and on the web in order to contact the group moderators. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Wow! that was ridiculously! easy!
Eric, I just prefer the basic html side, as yes, it's way way easier. I can try to figure out how to do it the other way, if you'd like. No guarantee, but if you need me to, I can try looking into it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: Wow! that was ridiculously! easy! heh. thats on the basic html side. :) the problem I have over there right now is that I have so many filters going that not all of them get run. so, I may have to do some tweaking. unfortunately, google doesn't seem to have a report abuse link for any of the harassing emails. ah well, a filter is just about as good. -eric On Mar 28, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: OK, I must say, I'm incredibly impressed! I just logged into my gmail account via the web interface. I found one of Mario's e-mails, and determined that his e-mail address is: mario@gmail.com Once I got this info, I clicked on settings. Then there was a link that said filters. Once I clicked on filters, I saw a table that had nothing in it, as I had no filters set up on the gmail server side of things. I then found a button to add a filter. Once I went in here, it was a two step process. First it wanted me to give it the criteria of what I wanted to filter specifically. I left all the fields totally empty with the exception that in the from field, I typed in his e-mail address. mario@gmail.com Then, I didn't test the search settings so I don't know how that would really work. I'm totally confident that this will work. I just basically then scrolled down and hit vo+space on the next step button. Now, on this screen, it asked me what I wanted to do when it encounters a mail from him. there is a set of checkboxes, and one of them says delete it. I checked that box, thed then applied the filter. Now, when I look in that table that used to be empty, I now see one filter rule, which is this one. Then below it, I see two buttons. One to delete, and one to edit. Great great job by google making this so accessible! I really thought it was gonna be way harder! that was an absolute breeze! I literally had it done in under five minutes! If anyone needs help doing this, get up with me on Skype, and I'll walk you through it. My Skype name is: chris28210. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
Hello Jon, Apparently, the update to iOS 8.2 stopped devices using bluetooth 4.2 connecting to iOS devices. I encountered this problem with my Okoia bathroom scales which communicate with the Airscale app and were working fine until I updated from iOS 8.1.3 to iOS 8.2 at which point the connection failed. I contacted the app developer who has kept me informed about what’s happening. I also reported the problem to Apple. Bluetooth 4.2 is the most recent version of bluetooth, so I imagine Apple will be keen to fix this problem. Cheers, Anne On 28 Mar 2015, at 18:57, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote: It's good that you mentioned the bluetooth keyboard issue. Just updated last night and now my keyboard doesn't work when Voiceover is on. Fantastic. Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
I don't understand the hostility toward me. No, I don't work for Apple, but even if I did, that wouldn't make me any more right nor wrong. That assumption is 100% irrelavent. I'm sorry that you feel this way about me, and honestly, I don't understand your reasoning for calling me silly/stupid, nor any of the other derogatory comments made, however as I said a moment ago... If you can illustrate to me some logical reasoning for your comments, E.G, the specific problems that you have which thereby are still broken, then we'll talk. Regardless the attitude which you have toward me, I genuniely hope that you have a lovely day. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: mário navarro To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 9:01 AM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Jon Solitro To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon Solitro Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive
Re: is the thermosmart app accessible?
I’ll second CB’s comments. We have three thermostats, and adjusting the temps and schedules is a breeze. We can’t read the weather report which shows on the screen, but I can live with that. Chris On Mar 27, 2015, at 11:15 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: I haven't tried every feature but the iOS app for the Honeywell thermostats seems somewhat accessible. There are things like the temp up/down buttons for heat and for cooling are read across by row instead of as a group but it can be used. Initial setup needs sighted assistance as there is a number displayed on the thermostat screen that has to be typed into a web page to set the web stuff up but after that you can pretty much ignore the thermostat on the wall. The website is hit or miss. Apparently it does something weird with caching so the page often times doesn't load right. CB On 3/26/15 6:22 PM, William Windels wrote: Hello everyone, Is here someone who has experiences with the thermosmart and the corrresponding application on the iphone? I have used the nest thermostat for some months but I will bring it back since my boiler isn't compatible completely with the nest thermostat or revers. The boiler uses a open protocol to communicate with the thermostat and the nest thermostat is a closed protecol. So, before I should decide to buy the thermosmart thermostat, the thermostart that uses the open protocol, I would like to know if the app is enough accessible with voiceover on the iphone. Any hints are very welcome. Kind regards, William Windels Mvg william Windels Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
My only problem with Apple at this point is that they're just a little too excited. They rush on and trip over their own releases. They just gotta slow down a little and put in a good automated quality control. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Totally agree. Actually, it works quite well. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:11 AM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 It ain't broke now. iOS 8.2 is on both my iPhone and iPad. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/27/2015 7:48 PM, Pamela Francis wrote: I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it. On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote: I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces. 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to know that most companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to be broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 dollar piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and moments where you want to throw that damn thing out the window and never touch it again is clearly not what I call good experience on a computer. More and more of my friends, mac users, both sighted and visually impaired, agree with me that apple is starting to rot in terms of presenting it’s image. It’s not an underdog but a huge bulky oil tanker that can now only manuver slowly with a battalion of lawyers behind murmuring at the chief’s ears, the latter being probably more complacent than should be, thus giving us this weird awkward show each year now with a barely straight talking TIm Cook who sounds like he never had a girl friend chill time or something seems amiss in him. Some soul? Something. Whatever the case, I don’t really dig the style apple is portraying. It’s becoming a disney world presentation with hs and aaahs when the tech behind is quite literally lagging. No visionary stuff, when this qualification should by now,
Sending: An Audio Walkthrough on creating E-mail Filters
Guys, I've just uploaded another podcast eppisode to the CLG Productions podcast feed. In this eppisode, I take a look at creating e-mail filters on the Mac. To download the recording, go to: http://www.clgproductions.net By the way, while you're here, have a look around. NO seriously, do! I think you'll be quite impressed. Also if you don't mind doing so, go ahead and register/create a free account. This way, you can participate in the forums and other things we have up there to offer. Anyway, once on the above URL, locate the link that says blog and podcast. When you're there, navigate by heading. It should be pretty obvious at this point. It's the most recent post entry. I hope that this helps. Further, I hope that you all get some great resources/use out of the web site, in general. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Are you guys still there?
Well said! Chris. - Original Message - From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 11:53 PM Subject: Re: Are you guys still there? Donna and others, Every time the fire starts to go out, someone blows on it and it flares up. The sooner people understand this, the sooner things settle down. This inconsequetial perv cannot insult me. I do not allow it. I simply delete each emssage as it comes in. It is not worth the bother of creating a message rule for it will soon be gone. Now cut the group owner/mod some slack. It is unreasonable to expect people to monitor their groups 24/7. Again, stop replying to its messages or complaining for you only empower it. You only give it the power. Take it back by using the delete key. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 8:31 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Mario Navarro has seriously been insulting people on the list. his language has been profane and offensive, and I'm not easily offended. Where on earth are the moderators? I've been a list mod, I get it, it's sometimes a hassle but if you're going to moderate this list you need to pay attention. This guy has now sent more than 15 messages insulting people and you all seem to be nowhere to be found. Either do your job, or abdicate. What's happening on the list right now is simply not acceptable. Please do something about it ASAP. . Sincerely, Donna Goodin Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
I have to agree with the believer, here. I don't know what you guys are talking about. Many of Yuma's comments are about whether Apple is still on the cutting edge. I agree that Tim Cook and Johnny Ives aren't the visionaries that Steve Jobs was, there's no question about that. But in terms of the actual products, I've got IOS 8.2 on my phone, and I actually find Voiceover to be more responsive than with IOS 8.0, so it seems pretty clear to me that they made some accessibility improvements. I'm running Yosemite on my MBA, and am happy with that as well. I don't feel in anyway that accessibility is being pushed off to the side. Are there things that could be improved, absolutely. But Apple is still doing a better job than any other company of building native accessibility into its products. I had to use Windows 8 at my old job, and I can say truthfully it'd be a cold day in hell before I switch back to a PC. I haven't used an Android phone since 2010, and I'm sure the landscape there has changed significantly since then. But when I did try it, the experience did not bring me joy. This is just my experience, and as such, it is not intended to invalidate the experiences of anyone who may actually be having problems, just to say that not all of us are. Don't know why some would be while others aren't, but perhaps that is the case. Best, Donna On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:01 AM, mário navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net http://www.clgproductions.net/ - Original Message - From: Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon Solitro Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces. 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what.
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
shut your mouth silly! everything is still unresolved ... think first before you talk... cheers. Em 28/03/2015 03:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Whatever people. I'm telling you that Apple did break it, yes, but that is the key word... Did! Things work very well now, and if you don't believe me, tell me what you had an issue with, and I'll make an audio demo showing it's been fixed. Maybe then, you'll believe me. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Pamela Francis mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:48 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it. On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote: I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces. 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to know that most companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to be broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 dollar piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and moments where you want to throw that damn thing out the window and never touch it again is clearly not what I call good experience on a computer. More and more of my friends, mac users, both sighted and visually impaired, agree with me that apple is starting to rot in terms of presenting it’s image. It’s not an underdog but a huge bulky oil tanker that can now only manuver slowly with a
Re: Numbers: link to local files
Oh great, thanks for that idea. I’ll try that out. Opens the linked document in Safari then? Jürgen Am 28.03.2015 um 17:00 schrieb Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com: Hi, It appears that this used to be available in an earlier version of Numbers but it is no longer easily supported. There are workarounds if you have DropBox, or possibly even could work in iCloud Drive. Being that both of those services use local storage to sync with the storage provided on the web, if you put your file into your DropBox, for example, then share it to determine the web address, you could use that URL in your cell linking to direct things to your file or files. Sorry, not particularly pretty, but doable. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 27, 2015, at 12:21, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi, is it possible to link in a cell to a document on my hard drive? I found away to link to a web address but not to a local file. I want Numbers to open the linked file in the determined app. I tried File:///Users/MyUser/Example.pdf to use the url service but it didn't work. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Numbers: link to local files
Hi, Yes, that’s what I’d expect. Sorry, haven’t tested it much though. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 28, 2015, at 10:58, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Oh great, thanks for that idea. I’ll try that out. Opens the linked document in Safari then? Jürgen Am 28.03.2015 um 17:00 schrieb Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com: Hi, It appears that this used to be available in an earlier version of Numbers but it is no longer easily supported. There are workarounds if you have DropBox, or possibly even could work in iCloud Drive. Being that both of those services use local storage to sync with the storage provided on the web, if you put your file into your DropBox, for example, then share it to determine the web address, you could use that URL in your cell linking to direct things to your file or files. Sorry, not particularly pretty, but doable. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 27, 2015, at 12:21, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi, is it possible to link in a cell to a document on my hard drive? I found away to link to a web address but not to a local file. I want Numbers to open the linked file in the determined app. I tried File:///Users/MyUser/Example.pdf to use the url service but it didn't work. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
It was certainly broken when 8.0 was initially released for sure. As they have updated the software, there have been bug fixes. There are still Bluetooth keyboard problems and a few strange navigation issues still present. However, my understanding is that 8.3 has specific VoiceOver bug fixes in it. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain Lion AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:49 AM, mário navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: shut your mouth silly! everything is still unresolved ... think first before you talk... cheers. Em 28/03/2015 03:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Whatever people. I'm telling you that Apple did break it, yes, but that is the key word... Did! Things work very well now, and if you don't believe me, tell me what you had an issue with, and I'll make an audio demo showing it's been fixed. Maybe then, you'll believe me. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it. On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote: I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces. 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to know that most companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to be broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 dollar piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and moments where you want to throw that damn thing out the window and never touch it again is clearly not what I call good experience on a computer. More and more of my friends, mac users, both sighted and visually impaired, agree with me that apple is starting to rot in terms of presenting it’s image. It’s not an underdog but a huge bulky oil tanker that can now only manuver slowly with a battalion of lawyers behind
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
There are Braille display issues as well. I am awaiting the day when we can type normally on the display, and not have the device lock up if you are a fast Brailler. God bless. Matthew Dierckens Certified Assistive Technology Specialist Macintosh, Windows and IOS Trainer U.S. number: 573-401-1018 Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com On Mar 28, 2015, at 11:10, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: It was certainly broken when 8.0 was initially released for sure. As they have updated the software, there have been bug fixes. There are still Bluetooth keyboard problems and a few strange navigation issues still present. However, my understanding is that 8.3 has specific VoiceOver bug fixes in it. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain Lion AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:49 AM, mário navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: shut your mouth silly! everything is still unresolved ... think first before you talk... cheers. Em 28/03/2015 03:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Whatever people. I'm telling you that Apple did break it, yes, but that is the key word... Did! Things work very well now, and if you don't believe me, tell me what you had an issue with, and I'll make an audio demo showing it's been fixed. Maybe then, you'll believe me. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it. On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote: I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces. 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to know that most companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to be broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 dollar piece of hardware to get clunky
Re: Numbers: link to local files
Hi, It appears that this used to be available in an earlier version of Numbers but it is no longer easily supported. There are workarounds if you have DropBox, or possibly even could work in iCloud Drive. Being that both of those services use local storage to sync with the storage provided on the web, if you put your file into your DropBox, for example, then share it to determine the web address, you could use that URL in your cell linking to direct things to your file or files. Sorry, not particularly pretty, but doable. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 27, 2015, at 12:21, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi, is it possible to link in a cell to a document on my hard drive? I found away to link to a web address but not to a local file. I want Numbers to open the linked file in the determined app. I tried File:///Users/MyUser/Example.pdf to use the url service but it didn't work. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Numbers: Easy way to read and change formulars
That’s a great tip Jürgen. I’ll give it a try next time I’m having trouble editing a formula (if I remember it that is, ;-) On Mar 28, 2015, at 5:34 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
It's good that you mentioned the bluetooth keyboard issue. Just updated last night and now my keyboard doesn't work when Voiceover is on. Fantastic. Sent from my iPad On Mar 28, 2015, at 11:10 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: It was certainly broken when 8.0 was initially released for sure. As they have updated the software, there have been bug fixes. There are still Bluetooth keyboard problems and a few strange navigation issues still present. However, my understanding is that 8.3 has specific VoiceOver bug fixes in it. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain Lion AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:49 AM, mário navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: shut your mouth silly! everything is still unresolved ... think first before you talk... cheers. Em 28/03/2015 03:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Whatever people. I'm telling you that Apple did break it, yes, but that is the key word... Did! Things work very well now, and if you don't believe me, tell me what you had an issue with, and I'll make an audio demo showing it's been fixed. Maybe then, you'll believe me. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it. On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote: I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces. 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to know that most companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to be broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 dollar piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and moments where you want to throw that damn thing out the window and never touch it again is clearly not what I call good experience on a computer. More and
To the moderators, is this really the type of person or content you want on this list?
I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: Date: March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT From: mário navarro mario@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being
Re: Moderators
yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
Amen to that! I love my Braille display and was rather disappointed when I couldn't use it properly, but I'll keep installing updates in the hopes they're fixing it! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote: There are Braille display issues as well. I am awaiting the day when we can type normally on the display, and not have the device lock up if you are a fast Brailler. God bless. Matthew Dierckens Certified Assistive Technology Specialist Macintosh, Windows and IOS Trainer U.S. number: 573-401-1018 Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com On Mar 28, 2015, at 11:10, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: It was certainly broken when 8.0 was initially released for sure. As they have updated the software, there have been bug fixes. There are still Bluetooth keyboard problems and a few strange navigation issues still present. However, my understanding is that 8.3 has specific VoiceOver bug fixes in it. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain Lion AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:49 AM, mário navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: shut your mouth silly! everything is still unresolved ... think first before you talk... cheers. Em 28/03/2015 03:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Whatever people. I'm telling you that Apple did break it, yes, but that is the key word... Did! Things work very well now, and if you don't believe me, tell me what you had an issue with, and I'll make an audio demo showing it's been fixed. Maybe then, you'll believe me. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it. On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote: I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces. 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to know
Re: To the moderators, is this really the type of person or content you want on this list?
To all, The best way to deal with this kind of behavior is simply to ignore it. That is it. Responding only encourages infantile mentalities. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 11:16 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: Date: March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT From: mário navarro mario@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis
purchases from iTunes
Hello all, I saw someone post about having trouble making purchases from the iTunes store recently. It appears to be happening to me all of a sudden. I even went in on my computer and changed my payment method, to no avail. I am now blocked from downloading a free app even, because it keeps telling me there is a problem with a previous purchase. This must be an error on Apple’s end. Anyone else experiencing this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: To the moderators, is this really the type of person or content you want on this list?
fuck you bitch. your pussy stinks. Em 28/03/2015 18:16, Donna Goodin escreveu: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: *Date: *March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT *From: *mário navarro mario@gmail.com mailto:mario@gmail.com *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject: **Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8* *Reply-To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future.
iOS 8
Hi all you people, While I am a beta tester of Apple and have to abide by the NDA, I think it's safe to say you will like iOS 8.3. It will stop there before I get into trouble smile. Just sending some reassurance for those who doesn't believe iOS 8 isn't broken as of 8.2. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
