Re: Mail has no windows.

2012-09-26 Thread Cheryl Homiak
If you aren't getting busy signals and it's just that you accidentally closed 
your window, in Mail you can do cmd-option-n to open a new window; in fact, I 
often do this just when I want to go back and forth between two mailboxes for 
some reason quickly and repeatedly though of course I can also do this with 
favorites. In safari, if you have no windows but nothing is actually wrong, 
cmd-n will open a window.

Getting mad is completely understandable; we all do that from time to time but 
getting help is a lot more productive than getting mad.

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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 The only time I've ever seen this is when that is the correct situation and 
 there are really no windows open.  You can get this by pressing Command-W one 
 too many times; like close the message and then pressing it again while in 
 the message list. You can end up in no man's land so to speak.  I just 
 close and re-open mail if I accidentally do this and I'm put right back where 
 I was in the message list; I don't lose my place.  I would say there is no 
 bug here.
 
 On Sep 21, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi All.
 
 Now, I'm going to have a moan about Voice over and mail.  I read mail on the 
 Mac and every so often, I get 'mail has no windows'  I get this the same in 
 Safari and any application I open.  Then, when I open Skype, on my finder I 
 have Skype volume.  Now all these issues were not present in Lion.  Has any 
 one had these problems and does any one have a fix?  I'm frankly tired of 
 'mail has no windows' but the messages still read even though I here Voice 
 over announce 'mail has no windows'.  Sorry but this does make me very mad.
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: Mail has no windows.

2012-09-26 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, that is how favorites works and it's very nice.

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On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Donovan Osborn donovan303...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can also use Command plse the number keys to bring up different windows.
 
 Command+1 will open the inbox.
 
 command +2 will open the sent window
 and command +4 will open the drafts.
 
 You can use these to get your windows back when you have closed them 
 accidentally.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Donovan Osborn
 donovan303...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you aren't getting busy signals and it's just that you accidentally 
 closed your window, in Mail you can do cmd-option-n to open a new window; in 
 fact, I often do this just when I want to go back and forth between two 
 mailboxes for some reason quickly and repeatedly though of course I can also 
 do this with favorites. In safari, if you have no windows but nothing is 
 actually wrong, cmd-n will open a window.
 
 Getting mad is completely understandable; we all do that from time to time 
 but getting help is a lot more productive than getting mad.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The only time I've ever seen this is when that is the correct situation and 
 there are really no windows open.  You can get this by pressing Command-W 
 one too many times; like close the message and then pressing it again while 
 in the message list. You can end up in no man's land so to speak.  I just 
 close and re-open mail if I accidentally do this and I'm put right back 
 where I was in the message list; I don't lose my place.  I would say there 
 is no bug here.
 
 On Sep 21, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi All.
 
 Now, I'm going to have a moan about Voice over and mail.  I read mail on 
 the Mac and every so often, I get 'mail has no windows'  I get this the 
 same in Safari and any application I open.  Then, when I open Skype, on my 
 finder I have Skype volume.  Now all these issues were not present in 
 Lion.  Has any one had these problems and does any one have a fix?  I'm 
 frankly tired of 'mail has no windows' but the messages still read even 
 though I here Voice over announce 'mail has no windows'.  Sorry but this 
 does make me very mad.
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: Mail has no windows.

2012-09-26 Thread Cheryl Homiak
What kind of computer are you using? Could you accidentally be hitting 
something on the trackpad? Or is there any way the command key is getting hit 
somehow when you type a w? There has to be an explanation of some kind even if 
I haven't hit on it. If you were getting busy signals or something crashed I 
could understand it but for you to get no windows in two different 
applications when typing may suggest that something is being accidentally 
engaged.

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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 26, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:

 I get this when I'm writing messages and I've only had my hands on the keys.  
 I get this in safari too when reading a website.
 On 26 Sep 2012, at 15:59, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, that is how favorites works and it's very nice.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Donovan Osborn donovan303...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You can also use Command plse the number keys to bring up different windows.
 
 Command+1 will open the inbox.
 
 command +2 will open the sent window
 and command +4 will open the drafts.
 
 You can use these to get your windows back when you have closed them 
 accidentally.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Donovan Osborn
 donovan303...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you aren't getting busy signals and it's just that you accidentally 
 closed your window, in Mail you can do cmd-option-n to open a new window; 
 in fact, I often do this just when I want to go back and forth between two 
 mailboxes for some reason quickly and repeatedly though of course I can 
 also do this with favorites. In safari, if you have no windows but nothing 
 is actually wrong, cmd-n will open a window.
 
 Getting mad is completely understandable; we all do that from time to time 
 but getting help is a lot more productive than getting mad.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The only time I've ever seen this is when that is the correct situation 
 and there are really no windows open.  You can get this by pressing 
 Command-W one too many times; like close the message and then pressing it 
 again while in the message list. You can end up in no man's land so to 
 speak.  I just close and re-open mail if I accidentally do this and I'm 
 put right back where I was in the message list; I don't lose my place.  I 
 would say there is no bug here.
 
 On Sep 21, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi All.
 
 Now, I'm going to have a moan about Voice over and mail.  I read mail on 
 the Mac and every so often, I get 'mail has no windows'  I get this the 
 same in Safari and any application I open.  Then, when I open Skype, on 
 my finder I have Skype volume.  Now all these issues were not present in 
 Lion.  Has any one had these problems and does any one have a fix?  I'm 
 frankly tired of 'mail has no windows' but the messages still read even 
 though I here Voice over announce 'mail has no windows'.  Sorry but this 
 does make me very mad.
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: Calibres ebook-converter

2012-09-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak
i saw these posts about calibre. I had tried it once before but found it 
inaccessible and didn't know it could be run from the commandline. I just 
reinstalled it and still find it pretty much inaccessible with voiceover though 
I did manage to select a location for the folder. But everything in the menus 
is dimmed. I read in the information about calibre that you need to go into 
Preferences to install command line tools but this also looks inaccessible to 
me. Am I missing something here or can somebody tell me what to do? I do have 
the posts giving the terminal commands to use to convert a book. Also where can 
I find a list of what file types it will convert.

Thanks.

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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 26, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi.
 
 I have got it to work. Is it really true that you can only do 1 file at a 
 time on a mac, I have tried on windows there you can do a folder.
 
 Do I need to move my files into calibre, or can I do the cd command to 
 another folder and then do the convertion?
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 26, 2012 kl. 11:46 AM skrev sandi sørensen sandi1...@gmail.com:
 
 hi, i am not sure you can convert a wholelibrary at a time but
 single converts, no problem.
 Usually i do that from the terminal. an example would look something like 
 this.
 cp file from its start location  too the location where you ahve the
 app laying, on my box it is /Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOs.
 so the actual command line in the terminal would be: cp file.epub
 /Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS.
 after that change too the right folder, location.
 cd /Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS.
 okay last, but not least convert the file from one format, for me that
 might be text files.
 ./ebook-convert file.epub .txt
 after that copy the textfile  or just read it as you would usually do
 with textedit.
 Congrats, you are now set to read as much as you want.
 
 
 /sandi
 
 
 On 9/25/12, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.
 
 Can any of you, who are used to use calibres ebook-converter guide me a
 little. Maybe it will be easier off list, I simply can not get that to
 work.
 
 Here are my questions.
 
 1. do I need to turn anything on in calibre before the ebook-converter
 works?
 
 2. Can I convert a library of books at a time.
 3. can anyone give me an exact description that will get it to work.
 
 Best regards Annie.

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Re: Calibres ebook-converter

2012-09-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Never mind. I tried the directions that had been posted (like I should have 
done in the first place) and they work. I didn't have to install anything or 
open the application. Would be nice if it was accessible from within the 
application itself but I'm glad it can still be used.

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my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 27, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:

 i saw these posts about calibre. I had tried it once before but found it 
 inaccessible and didn't know it could be run from the commandline. I just 
 reinstalled it and still find it pretty much inaccessible with voiceover 
 though I did manage to select a location for the folder. But everything in 
 the menus is dimmed. I read in the information about calibre that you need to 
 go into Preferences to install command line tools but this also looks 
 inaccessible to me. Am I missing something here or can somebody tell me what 
 to do? I do have the posts giving the terminal commands to use to convert a 
 book. Also where can I find a list of what file types it will convert.
 
 Thanks.
 
 -- 
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 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 

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Re: Calibres ebook-converter

2012-09-28 Thread Cheryl Homiak
The only problem I see is that while in the menus there is an option to add 
plugins there doesn't seem to be a way for us to do this, so calibre can't 
convert some of my files. Being an avid linux user, I have absolutely no 
problem about using terminal though it would be nicer with braille.

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On Sep 28, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi.
 
 What I really like about it is that you can make a file with the commands and 
 copy them into terminal and you are running. Even you can add the command 
 string to textexpander, and it will be easy to get it whenever you need the 
 command.  I have read on the internet that it should be possible to convert a 
 folder containing more files, but they do not write the command out there.
 
 It ought to be possible to make a script or a service, but I do not know how 
 to do that.
 
 Best regards Annie. 
 Den Sep 28, 2012 kl. 10:09 AM skrev sandi sørensen sandi1...@gmail.com:
 
 peeks in
 morning ya'll, list of output formats will follow later today, first
 of all i need to get a few coffs and a few smokes, i am not kidding, i
 am driving on 3 cyls outta 12.
 For Cheryl. if you have any problems  with the converted books, simply
 just write .txt after the convert command. A few other  output formats
 is htm, rtf, and  pdf. And prolly others.
 As i told Annie yesterday i do one at the time. It works adoringly,
 and runs as i would expect. My only problems so far is my medical
 books, which seems to be too huge, but that is another storry.
 
 Sandi
 
 
 On 9/28/12, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Never mind. I tried the directions that had been posted (like I should have
 done in the first place) and they work. I didn't have to install anything or
 open the application. Would be nice if it was accessible from within the
 application itself but I'm glad it can still be used.
 
 --
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 i saw these posts about calibre. I had tried it once before but found it
 inaccessible and didn't know it could be run from the commandline. I just
 reinstalled it and still find it pretty much inaccessible with voiceover
 though I did manage to select a location for the folder. But everything in
 the menus is dimmed. I read in the information about calibre that you need
 to go into Preferences to install command line tools but this also looks
 inaccessible to me. Am I missing something here or can somebody tell me
 what to do? I do have the posts giving the terminal commands to use to
 convert a book. Also where can I find a list of what file types it will
 convert.
 
 Thanks.
 
 --
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
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Re: hint: Apple Earpods work on macs, too

2012-09-28 Thread Cheryl Homiak
The earpods and also the earlier earphones work I believe with the newer mac 
minis; I think i remember reading that. I don't think the microphone or remote 
control works with the macbook pros though the earphones themselves do of 
course work. The microphone and remote control also do not work with the older 
mac minis, for instance my mid-2007 model.


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On Sep 28, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 Here's another newbie hint. The new Apple Earpods, and presumably the older 
 headphones with remote and microphone as well, work with the mac, not just 
 iOS. In fact, though I did type the first part of this message I am now 
 dictating using the microphone built into the earpods.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: hint: Apple Earpods work on macs, too

2012-09-28 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Hmmm, I haven't had this problem with my Apple earphones but I imagine it can 
vary from set to set and could be related to how much you use them.

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On Sep 28, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Paul Hunt prhu...@att.net wrote:

 Time will tell whether the earpods are better than the old IPhone earphones. 
 After a few months of use, the old earphones lose volume and frequency 
 response. Have any of you found a remedy to this?
 Hopefully Apple has remedied this with the Earbuds.
  
  
  
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
 Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 1:11 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: hint: Apple Earpods work on macs, too
  
 The earpods and also the earlier earphones work I believe with the newer mac 
 minis; I think i remember reading that. I don't think the microphone or 
 remote control works with the macbook pros though the earphones themselves do 
 of course work. The microphone and remote control also do not work with the 
 older mac minis, for instance my mid-2007 model.
  
  
 -- 
 Cheryl
  
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
  
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Hi all,
 Here's another newbie hint. The new Apple Earpods, and presumably the older 
 headphones with remote and microphone as well, work with the mac, not just 
 iOS. In fact, though I did type the first part of this message I am now 
 dictating using the microphone built into the earpods.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: hint: Apple Earpods work on macs, too

2012-09-28 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Which MacBook Pro do you have and did you have to adjust anything in System 
Preferences  Sound. On my late 2011 MacBook Pro, it doesn't appear that the 
volume and play/pause work but I only tried them with my computer talking and 
not with an audio file playing. Would this make a difference?
 
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On Sep 28, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 The volume and play/pause controls work on my Macbook pro.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The earpods and also the earlier earphones work I believe with the newer mac 
 minis; I think i remember reading that. I don't think the microphone or 
 remote control works with the macbook pros though the earphones themselves 
 do of course work. The microphone and remote control also do not work with 
 the older mac minis, for instance my mid-2007 model.
 
 
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 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Here's another newbie hint. The new Apple Earpods, and presumably the older 
 headphones with remote and microphone as well, work with the mac, not just 
 iOS. In fact, though I did type the first part of this message I am now 
 dictating using the microphone built into the earpods.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Calibres ebook-converter

2012-09-28 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I really love calibre now! I found what I needed to make it work in some books 
I had trouble with and it is going to revolutionize my ebook reading! I also 
really like that it seems to work well with voiceover in terminal; enough gets 
spoken as it converts for you to usually know whether or not it was successful 
without having to try to arrow back through the output.

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On Sep 28, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi.
 
 What I really like about it is that you can make a file with the commands and 
 copy them into terminal and you are running. Even you can add the command 
 string to textexpander, and it will be easy to get it whenever you need the 
 command.  I have read on the internet that it should be possible to convert a 
 folder containing more files, but they do not write the command out there.
 
 It ought to be possible to make a script or a service, but I do not know how 
 to do that.
 
 Best regards Annie. 
 Den Sep 28, 2012 kl. 10:09 AM skrev sandi sørensen sandi1...@gmail.com:
 
 peeks in
 morning ya'll, list of output formats will follow later today, first
 of all i need to get a few coffs and a few smokes, i am not kidding, i
 am driving on 3 cyls outta 12.
 For Cheryl. if you have any problems  with the converted books, simply
 just write .txt after the convert command. A few other  output formats
 is htm, rtf, and  pdf. And prolly others.
 As i told Annie yesterday i do one at the time. It works adoringly,
 and runs as i would expect. My only problems so far is my medical
 books, which seems to be too huge, but that is another storry.
 
 Sandi
 
 
 On 9/28/12, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Never mind. I tried the directions that had been posted (like I should have
 done in the first place) and they work. I didn't have to install anything or
 open the application. Would be nice if it was accessible from within the
 application itself but I'm glad it can still be used.
 
 --
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 i saw these posts about calibre. I had tried it once before but found it
 inaccessible and didn't know it could be run from the commandline. I just
 reinstalled it and still find it pretty much inaccessible with voiceover
 though I did manage to select a location for the folder. But everything in
 the menus is dimmed. I read in the information about calibre that you need
 to go into Preferences to install command line tools but this also looks
 inaccessible to me. Am I missing something here or can somebody tell me
 what to do? I do have the posts giving the terminal commands to use to
 convert a book. Also where can I find a list of what file types it will
 convert.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: hint: Apple Earpods work on macs, too

2012-09-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I  have a late 2011 15 inch but it just has the headphone jack and the 
microphone jack.

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On Sep 29, 2012, at 6:03 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I think this might depend on the size of your Macbook.  I have a 13 inch MBP 
 so, there is only 1 jack for line in and line out like on IOS devices.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Which MacBook Pro do you have and did you have to adjust anything in System 
 Preferences  Sound. On my late 2011 MacBook Pro, it doesn't appear that the 
 volume and play/pause work but I only tried them with my computer talking 
 and not with an audio file playing. Would this make a difference?
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 The volume and play/pause controls work on my Macbook pro.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The earpods and also the earlier earphones work I believe with the newer 
 mac minis; I think i remember reading that. I don't think the microphone 
 or remote control works with the macbook pros though the earphones 
 themselves do of course work. The microphone and remote control also do 
 not work with the older mac minis, for instance my mid-2007 model.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Here's another newbie hint. The new Apple Earpods, and presumably the 
 older headphones with remote and microphone as well, work with the mac, 
 not just iOS. In fact, though I did type the first part of this message I 
 am now dictating using the microphone built into the earpods.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: Take Control eBooks' September Sale

2012-09-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I had little bit of trouble with this website in safari but found that if I 
changed settings in voiceover utility  web, I could navigate the table. But 
I'm having trouble telling whether or not my discount is being applied. Next to 
the filled-in coupon it says enter coupon button. I didn't know whether this 
was if yu wanted to enter another coupon or to confirm that one but whether I 
hit that button or not, the prices stayed the same. So I'm sitting here on the 
Paypal website trying to decide whether to put this through or not. I do a lot 
of shopping online so hopefully I'm not just failing to look closely enough.



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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 28, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 The Take Control ebooks, one of the great sources of information for the Mac 
 and iOS devices, are on sale for the end of September with a coupon code of 
 CPN20921SEPSALE (without the quotation marks) that will give a 50% discount 
 when applied at check out up through the end of September.  These books are 
 DRM-free, and are available in both PDF and ePub versions.  Furthermore, once 
 you purchase a book, which generally lists for $10 or $15, you can get all 
 minor version revisions free and re-download alternate formats from your 
 account, and often you can get a discount on the new major version of the 
 eBook.
 
 I'm cc'ing this to the viphone list, because some titles, such as Take 
 Control of iTunes or even Take Control of Switching to the Mac, may be of 
 interest.  For Mac users, titles such as Take Control of Apple Mail in 
 Mountain Lion,
 Take Control of Using Mountain Lion, Take Control of Troubleshooting Your 
 Mac, Second Edition, Take Control of the Mac Command Line with Terminal 
 (for learning to use Terminal and unix concepts), Take Control of Backing Up 
 Your Mac, and Take Control of Your 802.11n AirPort Network, Third Edition 
 (for general Wi-Fi setups and use) might be of interest.  These guides are 
 very hands on and practical;  some of them have information that I've never 
 found anywhere else.  
 
 If you log in through their special anniversary sale link, the coupon code 
 should get filled in automatically.  This URL is:
 http://tid.bl.it/september-sale-mountain-lion
 
 Alternatively, if this web page is busy, you can go to their catalog page:
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
 
 You can browse the Take Control titles in iBooks, if you have an iOS 
 device, but the discounted price and the ability to download alternative 
 formats and be informed of new, free, updates is only available for purchases 
 made through their web site.  (I find it easier to browse the titles in 
 iBooks).
 
 I'll put in a few sample direct links to specific books on their web site:
 • Take Control of iTunes 10: The FAQ, Second Edition
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/itunes
 • Take Control of Apple Mail in Mountain Lion
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/mountain-lion-apple-mail
 • Take Control of Using Mountain Lion
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/mountain-lion-using
 • Take Control of Switching to the Mac
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/switching
 • Take Control of Backing up Your Mac
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/backing-up
 • Take Control of the Mac Command Line with Terminal
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/command-line
 • Take Control of Your 802.11n AirPort Network, Third Edition
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/airport-n
 
 There are also good guides for GarageBand, third party apps such as Scrivener.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
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Re: Take Control eBooks' September Sale

2012-09-30 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Okay, here's what I did.

I started where it says buy selected books button. i tabbed through the titles 
and hit the spacebar only (not vo-space) to check the boxes. I was able to 
simply hit enter/return on the category choice; I wanted to see all books. But 
since I was then at the bottom of the list i had to use shift-tab to go through 
the books and then hit space only to check items. Then on the cart page, if you 
aren't seeing your total and couplon discount, use the item chooser and you 
will see those things. If you are paying with paypal and it says it needs a 
billing address to process your order, just keep going and when you are taken 
back to the website you will be able to complete the purchase with no problem. 
Admittedly it's a horrible website for accessibility if you don't know what to 
do, but it is actually quite workable once you figure it out. I was able to use 
it to purchase nearly $100 worth of books but I justify it by telling myself it 
would have been close to $200 without the discount. Mouse keys is not necessary 
at all on the website and since I'm known for using mouse keys often the fact 
that I passed up an opportunity to employ them means they really aren't needed 
- grin!




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May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi Steve and Others,
 
 I navigated the table entries by setting the web rotor to form controls.  
 Then if you use VO-U you can move down the list to the item you want and use 
 VO-Space or your Up+Down arrow keys to check/uncheck the box. By default the 
 listed entries will be set to Mountain Lion, I think.  To change the listed 
 entries to something else, set your web rotor to links, use VO-U, and choose 
 All Ebooks (a really long list, though, so I don't necessarily recommend 
 it) or arrow down past topics to General Macintosh, Apple's Mac Apps, 
 Other Mac Apps, Airport  Wi-Fi, etc.  Then activate the link to reload 
 the new entries, navigate to the heading Save 50% During the Take Control 
 September Sale!, and VO-Right or Right Arrow to the table.  
 
 The other way that works for me is to use item chooser menu (VO-I), then type 
 the first few letters of unchecked.  Navigate down to the title you want, 
 and use VO-Space or the Up+Down arrow keys to check or uncheck the box.  The 
 issue I have when choosing a link to load up another set of books is that 
 these navigation controls don't refresh with the new entries as being 
 associated with the titles.  If I toggle VoiceOver on and off, I can view the 
 newly selected entries under Form Controls in the web rotor, or when I use 
 item chooser menu and type u n c to find the unchecked entries, and then I 
 can check or uncheck the boxes without any use of Mouse Keys.
 
 Gremlins seem to be swallowing up some of my posts these last two days.  I 
 originally composed a long and detailed answer to Cheryl much earlier in this 
 thread, only to have it disappear.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 07:07, Anne Robertson wrote:
 
 Hello Steve,
 
 I've just had a look at this table and it's a total mess! I can get further 
 down through it by using mousekeys, but the VoiceOver cursor won't go there. 
 This site is renowned for being horrible to navigate in any case.
 
 Sorry not to have a better solution, but mousekeys is all that works for me. 
 If you want to try this method, make sure that you have the check box Speak 
 text under mouse after delay checked in the Verbosity category, 
 Announcements tab, in VoiceOver utility. Oh yes, and set the delay to zero.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 30 Sep 2012, at 18:30, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Help!!! Something terribly wrong with navigation of tables or something.  
 When I go to the below site and try and navigate the table, I can't go down 
 through the remaining rows.  While inside the table of books, I use the 
 VO-Arrow keys to try and go on down past row 2 but it appears to be going 
 across the table and then it wraps back to top row again.  What might I be 
 doing wrong here? I haven't had trouble with tables in HTML before.
 
 I'm using 10.8.2.
 
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 The Take Control ebooks, one of the great sources of information for the 
 Mac and iOS devices, are on sale for the end of September with a coupon 
 code of CPN20921SEPSALE (without the quotation marks) that will give a 
 50% discount when applied at check out up through the end of September.  
 These books are DRM-free, and are available in both PDF and ePub versions. 
  Furthermore, once you purchase a book, which generally lists for $10 or 
 $15, you can get all minor version revisions free and re-download 
 alternate formats from your account, and often you can get a discount on 
 the new major version of the eBook.
 
 I'm 

Re: Take Control eBooks' September Sale

2012-09-30 Thread Cheryl Homiak
When I used tab and shift-tab, the checkbox and the title of the book were 
associated so that I didn't have any problem telling what I was ordering. They 
were spoken together and as long as I didn't try to use vo-keys but just the 
space bar, each checkbox was checked though it didn't say checked when i 
pressed the space bar. I was able to fill my cart with 15 items all at once 
correctly by using this method. I was using the anniversary link that Esther 
provided but when I saw that this was only one category I went on to all 
books and added more books without losing the checkmarks on the books I had 
already chosen. Wile tabbing, I don't remember whether I was able to do 
vokeys-space on buy selected books or if I had to just hit enter. But I don't 
know whether I had any particular setting in safari that made tabbing work for 
me and the method suggested by others certainly also would work. I don't think 
the coupon has to be used only for one order.



-- 
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May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks to you and Esther, I managed to order 4 books so far.  It is a strange 
 experience indeed.  I had some problem associating checkboxes with the right 
 books though but I was probably mix and matching when to use VO modifiers 
 keys.  It was almost easier to add more books to the cart and then just 
 remove the unwanted ones.  I hope I can use the coupon more than once today.  
 I might go look for some more outside the mountain lion category.
 
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Okay, here's what I did.
 
 I started where it says buy selected books button. i tabbed through the 
 titles and hit the spacebar only (not vo-space) to check the boxes. I was 
 able to simply hit enter/return on the category choice; I wanted to see all 
 books. But since I was then at the bottom of the list i had to use shift-tab 
 to go through the books and then hit space only to check items. Then on the 
 cart page, if you aren't seeing your total and couplon discount, use the 
 item chooser and you will see those things. If you are paying with paypal 
 and it says it needs a billing address to process your order, just keep 
 going and when you are taken back to the website you will be able to 
 complete the purchase with no problem. Admittedly it's a horrible website 
 for accessibility if you don't know what to do, but it is actually quite 
 workable once you figure it out. I was able to use it to purchase nearly 
 $100 worth of books but I justify it by telling myself it would have been 
 close to $200 without the discount. Mouse keys is not necessary at all on 
 the website and since I'm known for using mouse keys often the fact that I 
 passed up an opportunity to employ them means they really aren't needed - 
 grin!
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hi Steve and Others,
 
 I navigated the table entries by setting the web rotor to form controls.  
 Then if you use VO-U you can move down the list to the item you want and 
 use VO-Space or your Up+Down arrow keys to check/uncheck the box. By 
 default the listed entries will be set to Mountain Lion, I think.  To 
 change the listed entries to something else, set your web rotor to links, 
 use VO-U, and choose All Ebooks (a really long list, though, so I don't 
 necessarily recommend it) or arrow down past topics to General Macintosh, 
 Apple's Mac Apps, Other Mac Apps, Airport  Wi-Fi, etc.  Then 
 activate the link to reload the new entries, navigate to the heading Save 
 50% During the Take Control September Sale!, and VO-Right or Right Arrow 
 to the table.  
 
 The other way that works for me is to use item chooser menu (VO-I), then 
 type the first few letters of unchecked.  Navigate down to the title you 
 want, and use VO-Space or the Up+Down arrow keys to check or uncheck the 
 box.  The issue I have when choosing a link to load up another set of books 
 is that these navigation controls don't refresh with the new entries as 
 being associated with the titles.  If I toggle VoiceOver on and off, I can 
 view the newly selected entries under Form Controls in the web rotor, or 
 when I use item chooser menu and type u n c to find the unchecked 
 entries, and then I can check or uncheck the boxes without any use of Mouse 
 Keys.
 
 Gremlins seem to be swallowing up some of my posts these last two days.  I 
 originally composed a long and detailed answer to Cheryl much earlier in 
 this thread, only to have it disappear.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 07:07, Anne Robertson wrote:
 
 Hello Steve,
 
 I've just had a look at this table

Re: protected pdf

2012-09-30 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Have you gone to the Kobo website and made sure that this is only available as 
a pdf? I seem to remember that some books had more than one download option and 
once you buy the book you can download it in any format. Also, have you tried 
opening your library on the device you are trying to get the book onto and 
seeing if it just needs to be downloaded?



-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 30, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi Esther
 My problem is knowing how to get the pdf into my kobo app on my iPhone. The 
 epub books just sync automatically, but the pdf doesn't appear to. Any ideas?
 Lisette
 
 On 1/10/2012, at 1:28 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Lisette, Steve, and Others,
 
 I think you can use Adobe Digital Editions to read that PDF.  It works on 
 Kobo ePub books that are protected with Adobe's ADE DRM, and it also works 
 on library downloaded eBooks that you can check out on the web from 
 libraries that use OverDrive.  (You can read the books in the OverDrive 
 Media Console app on an iOS device and download to that app, but the 
 experience of reading eBooks is much better in the Kobo iOS app.)
 
 Given a choice, I usually get ePub books from Kobo, so I'd never tried it 
 with a PDF before this question came up, so I tried it on one of my DRM-free 
 Take Control PDFs.  
 
 I haven't tried with the updated version, but according to Bryan Jones on 
 the mac-access list, he's found no changes in the way the Mac version 
 performs in the latest version:
 http://www.adobe.com/products/digital-editions.html
 
 The main thing is that you still don't have the ability to navigate and read 
 by paragraph, line, word, or character on the Mac side, although you can use 
 VO-Shift-C to copy the page to TextEdit where you can do this.  Bryan claims 
 that this is now possible in the latest update for Windows, although the 
 earlier Windows Adobe Digital Editions Preview versions 1.8 basically had 
 the same features as the Mac versions did.
 
 I have to advance pages by pressing the right arrow key, but reading books 
 with Adobe's ADE DRM does work. And it does work for the DRM-free PDF I just 
 loaded, so this should work OK with your eBOOk.  I'd say this is fine for 
 leisure reading, but for text books you'd really need to have better 
 navigation options supported.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 14:51, Lisette Wesseling wrote:
 
 I think Digital Editions on the PC is accessible. Is it accessible on the 
 Mac?
 
 On 30/09/2012, at 12:18 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I wonder if Docuscan Plus could deal with this.  Yes, that program costs 
 $299 US but might be worth the money to crack this crap.
 
 Oh, did I tell you? I hate DRM!
 
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all
 I recently bought a book from Kobo which I thought was in epub but is 
 actually a drm protected pdf. I don't know how I can read this either on 
 my iPhone or mac. I've written to Kobo but they have not replied.
 What are people using to read protected PDF files? Bookle won't read them 
 is that right?
 I'd like to read my book now that I've purchased it. Thanks for any help.
 
 Cheers
 Lisette
 
 
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Re: protected pdf

2012-09-30 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Btw I put all of those drm-free take control pdfs through calibre and they 
convert to text with no problem.
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On Sep 30, 2012, at 7:28 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Lisette, Steve, and Others,
 
 I think you can use Adobe Digital Editions to read that PDF.  It works on 
 Kobo ePub books that are protected with Adobe's ADE DRM, and it also works on 
 library downloaded eBooks that you can check out on the web from libraries 
 that use OverDrive.  (You can read the books in the OverDrive Media Console 
 app on an iOS device and download to that app, but the experience of reading 
 eBooks is much better in the Kobo iOS app.)
 
 Given a choice, I usually get ePub books from Kobo, so I'd never tried it 
 with a PDF before this question came up, so I tried it on one of my DRM-free 
 Take Control PDFs.  
 
 I haven't tried with the updated version, but according to Bryan Jones on the 
 mac-access list, he's found no changes in the way the Mac version performs in 
 the latest version:
 http://www.adobe.com/products/digital-editions.html
 
 The main thing is that you still don't have the ability to navigate and read 
 by paragraph, line, word, or character on the Mac side, although you can use 
 VO-Shift-C to copy the page to TextEdit where you can do this.  Bryan claims 
 that this is now possible in the latest update for Windows, although the 
 earlier Windows Adobe Digital Editions Preview versions 1.8 basically had the 
 same features as the Mac versions did.
 
 I have to advance pages by pressing the right arrow key, but reading books 
 with Adobe's ADE DRM does work. And it does work for the DRM-free PDF I just 
 loaded, so this should work OK with your eBOOk.  I'd say this is fine for 
 leisure reading, but for text books you'd really need to have better 
 navigation options supported.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 14:51, Lisette Wesseling wrote:
 
 I think Digital Editions on the PC is accessible. Is it accessible on the 
 Mac?
 
 On 30/09/2012, at 12:18 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I wonder if Docuscan Plus could deal with this.  Yes, that program costs 
 $299 US but might be worth the money to crack this crap.
 
 Oh, did I tell you? I hate DRM!
 
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all
 I recently bought a book from Kobo which I thought was in epub but is 
 actually a drm protected pdf. I don't know how I can read this either on 
 my iPhone or mac. I've written to Kobo but they have not replied.
 What are people using to read protected PDF files? Bookle won't read them 
 is that right?
 I'd like to read my book now that I've purchased it. Thanks for any help.
 
 Cheers
 Lisette
 
 
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Adobe Digital Editions Version

2012-10-01 Thread Cheryl Homiak
You don't need adobe preview. adobe 2.0 is accessible.

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On Oct 1, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi.
 
 You can use adobe preview accessible version.
 
 I bought a while ago a program called bookle. It should be accessible with 
 VoiceOver, but there seems to be something to it, that I have missed. I have 
 some navigation problems.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 

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Re: protected pdf

2012-10-01 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I just bought a protected pdf from Kobo. I can't access it yet because the 
website says it has had trouble contacting the retailer but I've already got my 
receipts fromKobo and Paypal so it's just a matter of time. This is a book I 
want to read and I will be using my Mac so I will report back.


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How to download ebooks from christianbook.com

2012-10-02 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Okay, I hope everybody will excuse that I am going to post this to three lists 
but at least I am going to send separately to each list. I thought this might 
be really helpful to some who may have been as frustrated as I was.

I have bought several ebooks from Christianbook.com. I could read them online 
but aside from a copy-and-paste procedure that only worked on Snow Leopard 
below 10.6.8, I could not download the books to my computer. Also, when I tried 
it with Adobe Digital Editions 2.0 on my computer in Windows, the fact that i 
had ADE installed wasn't even recognized but if I allowed the ADE to be 
installed from Christianbook.com in Windows it was inaccessible. Trying to 
download from the Mac was really frustrating because you could see the message 
to close the window from the flash player but couldn't access the link to 
download the item.

I emailed Christianbook specifically about updating their version of ADE and 
they wrote back suggesting I right-click. So I decided to try this on the Mac. 
To my dismay, setting a keyboard commander command for right click did not work 
even though I had the mouse lined up correctly; it just dinged at me. Doing 
vo-shift-m brought up a seven item menu which didn't include downloading the 
linked file.

Finally, I went into System Preferences  Trackpad and under the point and 
click tab, I changed the secondary click menu to click in bottom right 
corner. This time when i lined up my mouse on the download link for a book 
and pressed the bottom right corner of the trackpad, and eight-item menu opened 
with both download linked file and another to save as. I have now tried this 
with three books and two times it downloaded the actual epub file. One time it 
downloaded the urllink file which downloaded the epub when opened in ADE.

I hope this will be as helpful to somebody else as it was to me. I have spent 
the greater part of the last two days stewing over this and trying to get 
something to work to download ebooks from this site. I no longer need to cling 
to Snow Leopard 10.6.7 on my old mac mini which threatens never to start up 
again every time I shut it down! I again apologize for posting this to three 
lists but I know that some people only subscribe to one of these.


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Some more questions about Windows 7 on the Mac

2012-10-03 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I've had Windows xp running in vmware fusion on my macbook pro. Now i have just 
purchased Windows 7 and it will be here on Friday. I did follow the earlier 
bootcamp thread but I have some additional questions.

1. Can i install Windows 7 with vmware fusion to initially play with it and 
then reactivate it after I install it using bootcamp as long as I'm not going 
to try to use the same key both with vmware and its separate partition once I 
have it installed separately?

2. Somebody mentioned importing an installation from vmware to the bootcamp 
installation. is this possible and does it require less sighted help? Are there 
other caveats of which I should be aware if I decide to do that?

3. If i want to use my multi-link bluetoot keyboard with Windows in the 
bootcamp partition, can I do this? I realize this will be a full-fledged 
Windows installation but I wondered if the drivers involved include bluetooth 
support.

4. When I go to install Window-eyes in the bootcamp Windows partition and 
windoweyes says it has to reboot to start the install, will it automatically 
restart in Windows or will I have to use the option key to make sure it does so 
if I have Macos as the default? Maybe I should just make Windows the default 
while i'm doing the windoweyes install just to keep things less complicated? I 
won't need to hurry to install windoweyes as I also have System Access.


Thanks.


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Re: need help with fusion error.

2012-10-03 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Hopefully you won't have to create the vm again. However, just in case you do, 
here is a tip:

If you have a version of the vm on your backup - for instance, I know that 
superduper completely backs it up - you can delete the folder for that virtual 
machine in ~/Documents/Virtual Machines. the defective virtual machine. Then 
you can drag and drop your backup version in finder to the Virtual Machines 
window. As I recall, you then have to open it in finder before it actually 
shows up again as a virtual machine in your virtual machine library. You only 
lose whatever you did since the last backup. Of course this is assuming that 
re-introduction of the backup doesn't give you the same error. It really seems 
that this should be fixable in settings as Mike says but I would have been 
furious if I had needed to reinstall Windows XP over again!

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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Oct 3, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:

 Try this. Highlight the virtual machine and press command+e to open the 
 settings for it. There is an item there for the sound card, what does it say? 
 Perhaps I can look at this for you on the way to Jefferson City on Friday 
 while on the train.
 Original message:
 Hi all;
 i am running fusion version 4.1 on a mac air under the latest version of ML.
 this is the second time that i have had this error occur.  the last time i 
 had to completely delete the vm and create a new one.  here is the exact 
 text of the error;
 error in starting sound stream
 sound is disconnected
 ok
 both times this error has occurred when i woke up the computer in the 
 morning.
 please help with solutions if there are any.  i just got this vm set up the 
 way i like it again…
 thanks so much.
 
 Vivianna
 
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Re: downloading actual youtube videos?

2012-10-04 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I don't bother with trying to download from youtube usually. I just turn on 
recording for safari in audio hijack pro with recording set to remove silence 
(there's a decibel level setting and duration for this). Then I go into safari 
and activate the link to what I want to record and I frankly think it comes out 
sounding just as good as if I had downloaded it. But I admit I'm not trying to 
do anything highly professional with the recording. I'm usually just trying to 
learn new worship music for church or other music just for my own enjoyment.

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On Oct 4, 2012, at 5:04 AM, Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.  i have mp3 to youtube converter for saving stuff to mp3. thanks i'll go 
 google and find this app.
 
 
   regards
 Maria and crew from australia
 email:
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 check out 
 www.powerradio104.us
 where we play lots of great music
 
 
 
 On 03/10/2012, at 10:59 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You know Chris, I'm not totally sure if it does mp3's.  the last I looked it 
 didn't, unfortunately.  That is the only thing I don't like about it.  That 
 and there are a few unlabeled buttons, but you probably by now I'd assume 
 know about the vo+slash to label things manually.  For what it is, it's a 
 great little app, it just doesn't quite do what I need being I'm totally 
 with you... I'd prefer it encode to mp3, not saving the video portion as 
 well, as that takes up way too much room.  Now yeah, there are some vids I 
 do wanna keep the video to, but we won't go there.  Hahahah.  Hint hint, 
 ROFL!
 
 Just kidding.  I'm not that way.  LOL!
 
 - Original Message - From: Chris christopher...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:25 PM
 Subject: Re: downloading actual youtube videos?
 
 
 Can I use this app to convert Youtube to say MP3? Thanks!
 
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 
 On 02/10/2012 22:46, ROD SKENE wrote:
 I download YouTube videos with an app called MacTubes.  There are many
 unlabeled buttons but the help tags make the app accessible.
 Rod
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.  I have youtube to mp3 converter, which works well.  I'm working
 on a presentation i have to do though, and was hoping to include some
 clips in the presentation.  Because I'm presenting to sighted people
 I'd like to know if it's possible to download the whole video somehow
 with the mac.
 
 thanks
 
 God Bless! Maria from australia
 Newbie mac user.
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 will get you fb as well as email  iMessage.
 skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: downloading actual youtube videos?

2012-10-04 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, that is true.  Audio hijack pro cannot capture the video.  I dond't know 
if there is a program out there that can do this.  For my purposes I don't need 
the video, but of course a lot of people do. 

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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14, HCSB)


On 04/10/2012, at 7:57 AM, Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.
 
 I'm doing a presentation as a project for college to sighted people so i need 
 the video.
 
 have mac tubes now.
 thanks  
 Maria Chapman
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. - 
 Mahatma Gandhi
 
 On 04/10/2012, at 10:43 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't bother with trying to download from youtube usually. I just turn on 
 recording for safari in audio hijack pro with recording set to remove 
 silence (there's a decibel level setting and duration for this). Then I go 
 into safari and activate the link to what I want to record and I frankly 
 think it comes out sounding just as good as if I had downloaded it. But I 
 admit I'm not trying to do anything highly professional with the recording. 
 I'm usually just trying to learn new worship music for church or other music 
 just for my own enjoyment.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Oct 4, 2012, at 5:04 AM, Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.  i have mp3 to youtube converter for saving stuff to mp3. thanks i'll 
 go google and find this app.
 
 
 regards
 Maria and crew from australia
 email:
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 check out 
 www.powerradio104.us
 where we play lots of great music
 
 
 
 On 03/10/2012, at 10:59 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You know Chris, I'm not totally sure if it does mp3's.  the last I looked 
 it didn't, unfortunately.  That is the only thing I don't like about it.  
 That and there are a few unlabeled buttons, but you probably by now I'd 
 assume know about the vo+slash to label things manually.  For what it is, 
 it's a great little app, it just doesn't quite do what I need being I'm 
 totally with you... I'd prefer it encode to mp3, not saving the video 
 portion as well, as that takes up way too much room.  Now yeah, there are 
 some vids I do wanna keep the video to, but we won't go there.  Hahahah.  
 Hint hint, ROFL!
 
 Just kidding.  I'm not that way.  LOL!
 
 - Original Message - From: Chris christopher...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:25 PM
 Subject: Re: downloading actual youtube videos?
 
 
 Can I use this app to convert Youtube to say MP3? Thanks!
 
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 
 On 02/10/2012 22:46, ROD SKENE wrote:
 I download YouTube videos with an app called MacTubes.  There are many
 unlabeled buttons but the help tags make the app accessible.
 Rod
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.  I have youtube to mp3 converter, which works well.  I'm working
 on a presentation i have to do though, and was hoping to include some
 clips in the presentation.  Because I'm presenting to sighted people
 I'd like to know if it's possible to download the whole video somehow
 with the mac.
 
 thanks
 
 God Bless! Maria from australia
 Newbie mac user.
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 will get you fb as well as email  iMessage.
 skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: system dialog but not there

2012-10-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well my eset cyber security always has a system dialog but that shows up in 
either the window chooser or the application chooser or both.

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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Oct 5, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:

 I get this problem at least twice a month and don't even really use
 skype. I think it might be some kind of alert about the battery dying
 in the keyboard or trackpad for bluetooth. The only way I can get the
 annoying announcement to go away is by restarting the computer. would
 love to hear if anyone figures this one out.
 
 On Oct 2, 11:01 pm, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:
 Okay.
 
 Want a weird problem?  Here goes.  While running Skype, and after a while of 
 just sitting there, I will suddenly hear a Skype alert telling me a contact 
 has gone on or off line; and then, I hear system dialog.  But, when I go 
 to check using VO+F2, nothing but that one window open.  Any clues?
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
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Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2

2012-10-06 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I'm not so nonchalant and forgiving about it. I can do the Apple part without 
sighted assistance; I can install on my Mac and install on linux on my own. But 
i can't install Windows by myself?! I do plan to bootcamp Windows 7 eventually 
but right now  I am in the process of installing it in vmware fusion, soley 
because Windows is the one system I use that doesn't allow me to install it on 
my own. i would prefer my choices to be really my choices, not ones forced on 
me by the inaccessibility of a system! But I am thankful that at least vmware 
does allow me to install Windows independently! At least it allowed me to 
install xp independently and I'm about to find out about Windows 7. And despite 
my unhappiness with the inaccessibility of the install, I really am looking 
forward to learning Windows 7 now that I've decided to finally leave xp behind!



-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Oct 6, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ray, Yes, I had sighted assistance.
  
 I found a fairly tech competent person who had a few hours to kill and it 
 took us 2 hours from start to finish.
  
 That's from the time I started bootcamp assistant, through the actual 
 windows7 install, the install of apple support drivers, and finally 
 installing jaws12. There's just no way around the need for sighted assistance 
 in my opinion, but hey, sighted people aren't so bad ;-)
  
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Ray Foret Jr
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 10:47 AM
 Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2
 
 Did you have sighted assistance while going through the boot camp thingie 
 yesterday?  My guess is that you got to a point in the windows installation 
 where it came time to do the actual install of windows and you needed sighted 
 help because no windows audio drivers were loaded yet.  Is that pretty much 
 right?
 
 I ain't done it myself, but, many have.  I believe it to be completely 
 possible because of the way it works.  Voice Over won't guide you through the 
 process;  but, still, it can be done.  My advice, however, is not to listen 
 to me but to others who have actually done it.  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Oct 6, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Harry, I'm pretty sure you'll have to actually install windows during the 
 bootcamp process. Having it as a VMWare machine  won't work for you 
 there. I went through the whole bootcamp thing yesterday and it worked 
 great. Now, I'm thinking of going the VMWare route. Can you tell me if it is 
 easy to install windows via VMWare without sighted assistance?
 Is VO up and talking through the process?
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 1:31 AM
 Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2
 
 
 Hi, that's good to know that it doesn't cost money.  I don't regret using 
 VMware Fusion, since times call for having both operating systems running at 
 the same time, but it's nice to know that this alternative option is also 
 available.  if I have Windows already installed via a virtual machine, would 
 I have to reinstall it, do you know?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Harry
 
 On oct 5, 2012, at 8:05 p.m., Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hi harry,
 
 booth camp does not cost money, except for what you pay for a legal copy of 
 windows.
 I found it to be definitely worth it.
 Though i try to do it all on the mac, obviously, it is still good to have 
 windows. it can come in handy.
 
 mauricio
 On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Harry,
 
 I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tommorrow morning. It looks quite 
 straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows 
 install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at 
 that point.
 
 You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar 
 with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a 
 detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's 
 website
 
 www.blackviper.com
 
 search his site for windows 7 install.
 
 I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking 
 frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly 
 tomorrow.
 
 P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup and 
 installation guide I can send it to you via email - contact me offlist for 
 that doc.
 
 - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:10 PM
 Subject: Boot Camp and 10.8.2
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs money, 
 and if 

Victor Reader Stream and vmware fusion

2012-10-06 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I hope this isn't too far offtopic but I saw posts on this topic from 2010 when 
I googled so I'm hoping maybe somebody has figured this out since then. i've 
had this problem with every Stream I've had - one for my daughter and two for 
me! i can connect my Stream just fine in Mac OS, but I cannot connect it in 
Windows Xp and now in Windows 7 in vmware fusion though they do connect on a 
Windows pc. Vmware recognizes the Stream by name and asks where I want to 
connect it but after I choose, it never actually connects as far as Windows is 
concerned. I rarely really need to connect the Stream directly, only if I had a 
new Stream and had to activate it in Audible or maybe if I ever wanted to use 
Humanware Companion. But it drives me crazy! I have other devices that connect 
in Windows with vmware but just not the Stream. It's one of the few reasons why 
I am considering doing bootcamp eventually though it's not the biggest reason. 
I called Humanware about this once and was just vaguely told that they had 
heard of it happening with some computer setups. Does anybody have any ideas 
about what to do about this? it isn't crucial most of the time, but I'd sure 
like to solve it. A tech person from Audible got on my computer when I was 
running vmware with xp and he couldn't figure it out either.


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Re: Victor Reader Stream and vmware fusion

2012-10-06 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Of course, I usually just use the sd card too. As i pointed out, though, you 
can't do that when initially activating a new Stream in audible.com and you 
can't do that with the Companion. Neither of these are things I do often but I 
would like to be able to do them when necessary.
Thanks much for responding.

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On Oct 6, 2012, at 10:16 PM, John Sanfilippo vze33...@verizon.net wrote:

 I can certainly understand why you'd want to just connect your Victor Reader 
 Stream, rather than removing the SD card and either putting it directly into 
 a slot if available on the computer, or inserting the card into a card 
 reader, but I've always just done this because I understood that the Victor 
 is rather slow and other card readers are much faster. I wonder if that might 
 change the situation for you.
 
 John S
 
 
 On Oct 6, 2012, at 10:52 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I hope this isn't too far offtopic but I saw posts on this topic from 2010 
 when I googled so I'm hoping maybe somebody has figured this out since then. 
 i've had this problem with every Stream I've had - one for my daughter and 
 two for me! i can connect my Stream just fine in Mac OS, but I cannot connect 
 it in Windows Xp and now in Windows 7 in vmware fusion though they do connect 
 on a Windows pc. Vmware recognizes the Stream by name and asks where I want 
 to connect it but after I choose, it never actually connects as far as 
 Windows is concerned. I rarely really need to connect the Stream directly, 
 only if I had a new Stream and had to activate it in Audible or maybe if I 
 ever wanted to use Humanware Companion. But it drives me crazy! I have other 
 devices that connect in Windows with vmware but just not the Stream. It's one 
 of the few reasons why I am considering doing bootcamp eventually though it's 
 not the biggest reason. I called Humanware about this once and was just 
 vaguely told that they had heard of it happening with some computer setups. 
 Does anybody have any ideas about what to do about this? it isn't crucial 
 most of the time, but I'd sure like to solve it. A tech person from Audible 
 got on my computer when I was running vmware with xp and he couldn't figure 
 it out either.
 
 
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 Cheryl
 
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 and the meditation of my heart
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 my rock and my Redeemer.
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Re: MacBook Pro changing timezones

2012-10-07 Thread Cheryl Homiak
you don't have  to interact with the map at all. There's a time zone button to 
the right of the map and a combo box for nearest city. 
 At any rate, if you do a down arrow on the combo box and then hit enter on the 
city you want, you can change the city. In fact, once you do the down arrow and 
vo says interacting with list, one item selected, you can start typing the 
name of your city and it will either give you choices accordingly or you can 
finish typing. Once you hit enter after choosing or typing the city you want, 
stop interacting with vokeys-shift up arrow. So yes, accessibility is right 
about this even though they didn't give you specific instructions.

 
 
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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
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On Oct 7, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I just tried this week and found that VoiceOver is unable to interact with 
 the world map in the timezones tab under System Preferences. Because I have a 
 MacBook Pro, I don't have location services. So when I tried changing the 
 timezone, VoiceOver tells me no visible title to interact.
 I emailed accessibility at Apple and they insisted VoiceOver is able to 
 interact and change the timezone.
 So I'm wondering if anyone else with the latest Mountain Lion updates is able 
 to interact with the world map and change the timezone? Because I cannot for 
 some reason.
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Re: boot camp

2012-10-07 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Nice concise instructions! Also, while i'm sure yu can also download it, when 
you are given the option to print the setup guide you can choose that but then 
save it as a pdf instead. While I'm doing all right with my vmware 
installation, it's likely that I'll bootcamp it when I have the opportunity.

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On Oct 7, 2012, at 10:44 AM, wayne coles wayne...@gmail.com wrote:

 For the great instructionsYes i have done all that and all is well and
 thanks 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Halton
 Sent: 07 October 2012 15:48
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: boot camp
 
 Wayne, I just did this yesterday, so its fresh in my mind. Here goes.
 
 first I assume your MBP has a CD/DVD drive? if not then I can't help you.
 
 if so, then, run bootcamp assistant, check the box for installing windows
 and uncheck the box for downloading the bootcamp drivers as you already have
 them.
 
 On the next screen, set the partition size for bootcamp. I just pressed
 divide equally which gives equal sizes to both Mac and Bootcamp windows. 
 If you want, you can interact with the divider or splitter thingy and change
 the size of each partition as you like.
 
 Now, insert your windows7 installation CD into the CD/DVD drive and press
 install.
 
 Bootcamp assistant will create the bootcamp (windows7) partition and reboot
 into the windows installer.
 
 Now, you need sighted assistance because there's no VO, and no way to have
 speech until you complete the windows instal.
 
 Get someone who's computer literate, preferably someone who uses windows7
 all the time and can easily get around the screens with a mouse or the
 keyboard. In other words, don't ask your 90 year old grandmother for sighted
 assistance.
 
 Once windows7 is fully installed and setup, insert the bootcamp drivers CD
 and install them.
 
 Finally, you can install a screen reader and windows will come up talking.
 
 You'll Need:
 
 1) your windows7 CD and the Product Key at the ready.
 2) the bootcamp drivers CD.
 3) your screen reader and its product key. I burned jaws12 installer package
 onto a CD and had the registration key ready.
 
 
 
 I think that's about it. Check out Black Viper's windows7 installation guide
 
 thoroughly - it'll give you an idea of the steps involved in the win7 
 install.
 
 Also, very important, during the win7 install, at the Disk Drives screen 
 where you're asked where you want to install windows, you MUST select the 
 Bootcamp partition that the assistant created. And, you must check the box 
 that says to Format thwe partition. Read the appropriate section in the 
 bootcamp install guide for more info on that.
 
 Once you're past that screen, the remainder of the win7 install is fairly 
 straightforward. I had the BlackViper tutorial up on another machine and 
 used it to follow along step-by-step with my sighted assistant as he went 
 through the win7 install screens, so I know what he was doing.
 
 Good Luck,
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: wayne coles wayne...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 10:39 PM
 Subject: RE: boot camp
 
 
 Hello sorry i might not have made myself clear i have a mbp 13 2012
 and the trouble is being new to the mac i don't have a external hard drive
 but i have put the apple drivers on a dvd but i have not a clue about what
 to do now so any help is most welcome and i have read the apple boot camp
 guide and i think i am more confused then ever so please be patient with 
 me
 thanks in advance
 
 
 --wayne coles ---Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
 Sent: 07 October 2012 02:03
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: boot camp
 
 I don't have a link, but I did this on my mac mini 2012 with a thumb drive
 and a quick trip into the windows command line (of course, the windows pac
 must also have a cd drive). Just google something like set up bootcamp 
 with
 no cd drive and you should find plenty of help. You could also get a usb
 disk drive, something you might find handy not just for this but for the
 occasional cd or dvd you find yourself needing to play for whatever 
 reason.
 On Oct 6, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Wayne Coles wayne...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hello list i am trying to put boot camp on my mbp2012 and i have a
 windows7 cd here but i have no external drive do i have to one to do this
 and when trying to run boot camp assistant
 it will not let me and it says something about iso so can it be done with
 just a win 7 cd and if so how so please any help at this point in time 
 would
 be very helpful
 Wayne Coles
 wayne...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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upgrading vmware fusion

2012-10-09 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Has somebody gone through the upgrading process for vmware fusion? First it 
took me forever to realize I had to click on something that says 
controller.do to see and check my choices for licenses to upgrade. Now I'm 
stuck trying to checkout and I need to change my phone number and I can select 
the contents or highlight or whatever but I can't change the phone number! If I 
get just a little more frustrated, vmware may not get $50 from me right now! 
Can anybody tell me how to edit the phone number field or where to go in my 
account to change it?

Thanks.

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Re: upgrading vmware fusion

2012-10-09 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Thanks much! But I solved it. I just left the phone number as was and PayPal 
put it through with no problem.

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On Oct 9, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 hello,
 
 uhm, i honestly don't think you need to do all that.
 if you e-mail me privately i can give you a phone number or skype and
 i can go through these with you.
 there is no general rule for that, but i can definitely help you as we
 look over the page.
 On 10/9/12, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has somebody gone through the upgrading process for vmware fusion? First it
 took me forever to realize I had to click on something that says
 controller.do to see and check my choices for licenses to upgrade. Now I'm
 stuck trying to checkout and I need to change my phone number and I can
 select the contents or highlight or whatever but I can't change the phone
 number! If I get just a little more frustrated, vmware may not get $50 from
 me right now! Can anybody tell me how to edit the phone number field or
 where to go in my account to change it?
 
 Thanks.
 
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 and the meditation of my heart
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 my rock and my Redeemer.
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Re: a friend having issues with Mail in Mountain Lion

2012-10-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
These are not specifically issues having to do with threads and conversations. 
I am using the new standard mail, not the classical view, but I am not using 
any kind of threading. I find that I often have messages that don't appear to 
be deleted and then when I finally go completely out of the messages table and 
column I finally hear that the table is empty. I find this annoying and it 
definitely slows me down! I used to just be able to give the delete key a tap 
and the message was gone; now that doesn't happen a lot of the time and i'm 
always concerned that I may not know where the focus is and another email may 
have been deleted instead of the one I was trying to delete. While I like the 
feature that has lines read when a message comes in or when I am in the index, 
this can interrupt me when I'm reviewing something else in the index. It is no 
longer as snappy and quick to run through a bunch of mail as it used to be. I'm 
actually threatening to take most of my mail reading either to the iPhone 
and/or back to Alpine in linux on vmware fusion. Of course, part of the appeal 
of going back to Alpine is that I have braille with my braillelite 40 in the 
vmware fusion environment ( I sure wish these old serial devices could be 
full-fledged Mac players but I realize they are old technology) but part of it 
is that mail on my mac, while still quite doable, isn't as easy as it used to 
be. I kind of thought i must be doing something that wasn't the best practice 
and hadn't researched this so hadn't said anything on a list yet. I even tried 
hitting enter and then tabbing to delete but that is unnecessarily slow in my 
opinion. I realize this post isn't that helpful as I have no actual suggestions 
to give, but I didn't realize quite how frustrated I am with the Apple mail 
situation until I saw this post so I'm venting a little, and when I get going 
you get extra irrelevant data at no extra cost, unless you are paying for the 
download of my complaining. Don't get me wrong; I love my Mac and it is now my 
primary OS, but mail sometimes really annoys me when I'm trying to run rapidly 
through a bunch of messages. I've even considered whether the fact that I am 
using imap contributes to this, but since I am using mail on two iPhones, my 
Macbook pro, and sometimes Alpine in linux, it makes more sense to use imap. 
Okay I'm done; you can all take your hands down off your ears now without fear 
of losing precious hearing from listening to me yell!




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On Oct 10, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Jeff Bishop j...@jeffbishop.com wrote:

 Please see this message. Does anyone have any pointers that I might be able 
 to pass along?
  
 Hello all,
 My name is Amber and I'm having some problems with Mac Mail in Mountain lion. 
 I am using Gmail along with Mac mail. I have set up Gmail with its 
 accompanying folders. I find that I am having trouble with voiceover in the 
 conversations that I have created  in Mac mail.  I like the option to thread 
 my replies, but I am finding that voiceover repeats the conversation 
 disclosure triangle quite a bit when I arrow through messages.  In addition, 
 I am also having trouble deleting emails within threads. Sometimes when I use 
 the backspace key, the messages within the threads are deleted. However, 
 sometimes they are not, or the messages seem to be deleted, but the same 
 message is read to me a few times. It is almost as if voiceover cannot catch 
 up with my deletion of certain messages within the thread although I am not 
 deleting them very quickly. In order for them to be permanently deleted, I 
 have to hit command and  W and close the entire thread.
 Another issue I am having is that sometimes command delete will delete the 
 message and sometimes it will not. There are a few things that I have done to 
 try to fix this problem. I have removed my Gmail account and put it back onto 
 Mac mail. I have also gone into the view menu and changed it to classic mail 
 view.. In the mail preferences under the view tab, list previews are turned 
 off.   Show headers is also said to none. Include all messages is also 
 unchecked. Mark own messages as read this unchecked. Should this be checked?
 I am running Mountain lion OS 10 on a MacBook. Not a pro. It is about two 
 years old. I have done all updates to Mountain lion just today.
 I have also noted that voiceover is a bit sluggish on my machine. Sometimes 
 it takes a while to catch up to what I'm doing.
 If anyone could help I would greatly appreciated. You can email me at 
 amber.wall...@gmail.com. Thank you.
 Sincerely,
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Problem with lagging in Mail definitely seems to be speech-related

2012-10-22 Thread Cheryl Homiak
If anybody is having the problem with Mail in which messages do not seem to 
delete immediately, it definitely appears to me to be a problem with 
voiceover's speech either not being able to keep up or interrupt itself and go 
on to the next item. When I use braille and mut voiceover, I have no problems 
with this issue at all. I'm also thinking that using less lines of preview of 
the messages may help but I haven't gotten around to changing this in Mail 
preferences yet to try this.


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Re: Problem with lagging in Mail definitely seems to be speech-related

2012-10-22 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I just realized that another solution to this problem is simply to hit control 
to pause speech before hitting delete.

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On Oct 22, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:

 If anybody is having the problem with Mail in which messages do not seem to 
 delete immediately, it definitely appears to me to be a problem with 
 voiceover's speech either not being able to keep up or interrupt itself and 
 go on to the next item. When I use braille and mut voiceover, I have no 
 problems with this issue at all. I'm also thinking that using less lines of 
 preview of the messages may help but I haven't gotten around to changing this 
 in Mail preferences yet to try this.
 
 
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Re: keyboard command to focus active windows?

2012-10-22 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I remember there being something about this in the Mountain Lion Voiceover 
Getting Started. You might want to search there; if i have time later today 
I'll try to look for it in my braille copy.


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On Oct 22, 2012, at 7:38 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 It might be. I have never worked out what that command does as it seems to do 
 nothing the few times I've tried it.
 On Oct 22, 2012, at 8:05 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Alex,
 
 Would the command you're looking for be Bring Window to Front (VO-Shift-F2)?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 22 Oct 2012, at 13:39, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll pass it on, but I thought that command was to list open windows? I 
 don't know, I probably misunderstood the tweet and this is what he is 
 after. Thanks.
 
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Does anybody know of a case wolution for the refreshabraille

2012-10-22 Thread Cheryl Homiak
My slightly-used Refreshabraille 18 came with a sleeve but I really wanted a 
case for it that it can live in like i have for my braillelite 40. I ordered 
one from Aph but got an email back saying the order has been canceled because 
the item has been discontinued and there are no more in stock. Does anybody 
know if any third party carries a case?


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Re: keyboard command to focus active windows?

2012-10-22 Thread Cheryl Homiak
True, but there are sometimes windows that do not show up with cmd-accent.

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On Oct 22, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just curious, do you know about cmd-accent? Pressing command with the key 
 above tab (on U.S. keyboards anyway) cycles through windows in the current 
 application much like cmd-tab cycles through all applications. You said you 
 switch windows with vo-f2 twice, so I wanted to be sure you knew about this 
 (often easier) way of doing just that.
 On Oct 22, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It has to be one of these two from what Alex described:
 
 1. vo-f2 twice and then hit return on desired window: that is the window 
 chooser and I do use that when I know my window should have changed but my 
 keyboard focus isn't there or when I think there may be a window I'm not 
 finding or a diialog I'm not finding though Application Chooser also can be 
 used for finding dialogs.
 
 2. vo-shift-f2 which brings the window containing the voiceover cursor to 
 the front, making it the active window.
 
 I believe what the person who tweeted wants is actually vo-f2 because with 
 trackpad commander, a double-tap on the right side of the trackpad opens the 
 window chooser.
 
 
 
 On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Anne Robertson wrote:
 
 Hello Alex,
 
 Would the command you're looking for be Bring Window to Front (VO-Shift-F2)?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 22 Oct 2012, at 13:39, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll pass it on, but I thought that command was to list open windows? I 
 don't know, I probably misunderstood the tweet and this is what he is 
 after. Thanks.
 
 
 
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RE: samnet on a Mac?

2012-10-23 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Let me clarify again that there are some things you can do with safari 
just fine, such as checking and sending mail for instance, and some that 
will require chrome, though I haven't tried samnet this way  yet. It is 
also possible to receive and send Samnet mail, as I believe John pointed 
out, on Apple mail and I am also doing this via Alpine in linux on vmware 
fusion.



On Tue, 
23 Oct 2012, wayne coles wrote:



Yes it is possable you have to use chrome and the chrome vox add on
so hope this helps

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Subject: samnet on a Mac?

I just saw a note on the vi-phone list sent by a guy who said he was using
his Macbook and sending from Samnet. I didn't think it was possible to use
samnet on a Mac. I'm sending this note here in the hope that the gentleman
who sent that note to vi-phone is also subscribed here; the question seems
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Re: Live stream ofApple Event

2012-10-23 Thread Cheryl Homiak
it's working here but keeps going on and off. In fact it just went off for 
longer than usual this time and I'm going to try reloading.
Yeah, reloaded and got it back.
But there do seem to be problems and I have a fast cable connection so it isn't 
my connection. Maybe it's all the people tuning in or maybe it's a technical 
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 it isn't working in windows
 On 10/23/2012 9:54 AM, Jane wrote:
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 http://www.apple.com/apple-events/october-2012/
 
 
 
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Re: Live stream ofApple Event

2012-10-23 Thread Cheryl Homiak
They're talking about continuous scrolling in iBooks. I thought we could 
already do that.

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On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:

 I had the page loaded since 11:00 and refreshed from 12:00 on.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 23, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
 
 it's working here but keeps going on and off. In fact it just went off for 
 longer than usual this time and I'm going to try reloading.
 Yeah, reloaded and got it back.
 But there do seem to be problems and I have a fast cable connection so it 
 isn't my connection. Maybe it's all the people tuning in or maybe it's a 
 technical glitch.
 
 -- 
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 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 it isn't working in windows
 On 10/23/2012 9:54 AM, Jane wrote:
 You can listen at:
 
 http://www.apple.com/apple-events/october-2012/
 
 
 
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Re: Live stream ofApple Event

2012-10-23 Thread Cheryl Homiak
it's working steadily for me now.

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On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:

 I had the page loaded since 11:00 and refreshed from 12:00 on.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 23, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
 
 it's working here but keeps going on and off. In fact it just went off for 
 longer than usual this time and I'm going to try reloading.
 Yeah, reloaded and got it back.
 But there do seem to be problems and I have a fast cable connection so it 
 isn't my connection. Maybe it's all the people tuning in or maybe it's a 
 technical glitch.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 it isn't working in windows
 On 10/23/2012 9:54 AM, Jane wrote:
 You can listen at:
 
 http://www.apple.com/apple-events/october-2012/
 
 
 
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 hanksm...@hanksmith.net
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 hanksmith5
 Klango:
 hanksmith
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 hank.smith966
 Amateur radio call sign:
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Re: Live stream ofApple Event

2012-10-23 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Hey guys, i have to get a new Macbook Pro! I'm so tired of being able to see 
those pixels... not!
not! I'd better quit being a smart Alexa; I just lost the feed again. Apple is 
watching!


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On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:

 I had the page loaded since 11:00 and refreshed from 12:00 on.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 23, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
 
 it's working here but keeps going on and off. In fact it just went off for 
 longer than usual this time and I'm going to try reloading.
 Yeah, reloaded and got it back.
 But there do seem to be problems and I have a fast cable connection so it 
 isn't my connection. Maybe it's all the people tuning in or maybe it's a 
 technical glitch.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 it isn't working in windows
 On 10/23/2012 9:54 AM, Jane wrote:
 You can listen at:
 
 http://www.apple.com/apple-events/october-2012/
 
 
 
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 hanksm...@hanksmith.net
 twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/hanksmith2011
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 hanksmith5
 Klango:
 hanksmith
 Skype:
 hank.smith966
 Amateur radio call sign:
 ke7ief
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Re: Mac Mini from 2007 - How can I use it?

2012-10-24 Thread Cheryl Homiak
if you put it up to 2gb, you could put Lion on it but not Mountain Lion. Then 
you can just use it as an extra. I have a mid-2007 one myself but it has a 
problem with not always wanting to start; I may break down and get the logic 
board replaced because I have a friend who really needs a computer. I know 
before Mountain Lion came out people were looking for computers that would run 
Snow Leopard but Mountain Lion probably alleviated that somewhat. I read an 
article though that warned of the dangers of running old OSes once there aren't 
any more security updates.
I hate letting go of old computers; I always try to find something to do with 
them. I have two old Thinkpad T23s and a Thinkpad t61 sitting here running 
linux and yes, you could run linux on your mini. It always seems sort of wrong 
to me to get rid of a machine that is still working so I either keep using them 
or I try to find homes for them with people who understand that they are 
already very used and there are no guarantees.



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On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:47 PM, David Hole balubathebr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi folks.
 
 I have a Mac Mini from 2007 that I by now don't have anything
 interesting purposes I can use it for, since it only have 1GB RAM.
 I could maybe have used it as a server, but Snow Leopard Server
 requires 2GB of RAM :-(
 
 Anyone here who have good ideas for this machine?
 
 Will I be able to run Mountain Lion if I upgrade the RAM on it?
 And if so, can I use the RAM I took out of my late 2010 MacBook Pro?
 
 -David
 
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Re: Setting up mac mini?

2012-10-24 Thread Cheryl Homiak
As I recall, the mouse doesn't require a password and neither does the 
trackpad, though neither of those would help us much right out of the box. 
Also, part of the original idea of the Mac mini, as I recall, was that people 
would buy it and share the already-existing Windows keyboard and mouse with the 
Mac mini.

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On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay, that makes sense. As I said, I was not sure. Still, I wonder how 
 sighted people do it then, unless their magic mouse pairs automatically? I 
 can't believe every mac owner in the world has to buy a usb keyboard for the 
 thirty seconds it takes to pair their (much more expensive) apple keyboard?
 On Oct 24, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Alex, you were misinformed.  That won't work, as the keyboard has to be 
 paired, being it's bluetooth.  But, how can he pair it, if it's the only 
 keyboard he's got access to?  He need a keyboard that wasn't bluetooth to be 
 able to even get to the status bar bluetooth icon to start with, to pair it. 
 See what he and I're saying?
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:20 AM
 Subject: Re: Setting up mac mini?
 
 
 I may well be wrong, but I think it will work with the keyboard 
 automatically, provided it is an official Apple keyboard. That said, it 
 never hurts to have a cheap usb keyboard hanging around, just in case. 
 Still, the worst that happens is you start the machine (be sure you have a 
 monitor connected or it won't be happy) and you can't get vo to come on, so 
 you shut down, get a keyboard, and try again.
 On Oct 24, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think this is your only option as the mac mini is a dumb terminal without 
 these accessories.
 
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 
 On 24/10/2012 09:39, Kliphton wrote:
 Okay, I have just ordered my new mac mini, got the fusion drive, and all 
 the
 good stuff that comes with it.  My question is, how do you set it up
 annishally?  Since it doesn't have a bt keyboard paired with it already, 
 and
 I don't want to go buy a USB just to activate my bt and connect my apple
 wireless keyboard.  Or is this my only option?  Suggestions and ideas
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Re: Mac Mini from 2007 - How can I use it?

2012-10-24 Thread Cheryl Homiak
When I used the scan tool on crucial, it said I could only upgrade it to 2gb of 
ram. Also, if I remember correctly it isn't in the list of ML-compatible 
computers. You might be able to do it; I thought about trying it but I think it 
would be on the edge as far as workability in ML even if you did manage to 
install it. This is the mid-2007 mini I am referring to. But if you do get ML 
to run decently on it, I'd be interested in hearing.


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 Put Linux on it!  LOL!  NO, I'm just kidding.  Seriously, yes, you probably 
 could run ML if you upped the ram a bit.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: David Hole balubathebr...@gmail.com
 To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:47 PM
 Subject: Mac Mini from 2007 - How can I use it?
 
 
 Hi folks.
 
 I have a Mac Mini from 2007 that I by now don't have anything
 interesting purposes I can use it for, since it only have 1GB RAM.
 I could maybe have used it as a server, but Snow Leopard Server
 requires 2GB of RAM :-(
 
 Anyone here who have good ideas for this machine?
 
 Will I be able to run Mountain Lion if I upgrade the RAM on it?
 And if so, can I use the RAM I took out of my late 2010 MacBook Pro?
 
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Re: Mac Mini from 2007 - How can I use it?

2012-10-25 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I think I read that SL security updates are not being done any more, but I'll 
try to check my information.

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On Oct 25, 2012, at 10:09 AM, matthew Dyer matthewdyer...@msn.com wrote:

 Hi all,  Just a thought, but does anyone know if apple is still pushing out 
 security updates for sl?  I have not hurd anything abourt them not doing so.  
 I did receive a security update a few weeks ago, but just wondering as I do 
 not have the ram to run lion on this mac mini 2009.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 On Oct 24, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 
 Put Linux on it!  LOL!  NO, I'm just kidding.  Seriously, yes, you probably 
 could run ML if you upped the ram a bit.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: David Hole balubathebr...@gmail.com
 To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:47 PM
 Subject: Mac Mini from 2007 - How can I use it?
 
 
 Hi folks.
 
 I have a Mac Mini from 2007 that I by now don't have anything
 interesting purposes I can use it for, since it only have 1GB RAM.
 I could maybe have used it as a server, but Snow Leopard Server
 requires 2GB of RAM :-(
 
 Anyone here who have good ideas for this machine?
 
 Will I be able to run Mountain Lion if I upgrade the RAM on it?
 And if so, can I use the RAM I took out of my late 2010 MacBook Pro?
 
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Re: question about a web site with Safari

2012-10-26 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Actually what usually works for me is option-return, but I've never tried 
fn-return; perhaps that also works.

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On Oct 26, 2012, at 11:17 PM, Donovan Osborn donovan303...@gmail.com wrote:

 hit Function key plus return.
 This works when you hit a link to aMP3 file and it will download the mp3 
 instead of opening and playing it. 
 Also when this happens you get no confirmation thats it has downloaded it, 
 you just have to look in your download folder.
 So it is worth a try.Try going to the link and instead of hitting return or 
 VO Space, 
 Sincerely,
 
 Donovan Osborn
 donovan303...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Oct 26, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex.
 This is really weird, but I tried it twice just to make sure I had followed 
 what you said. I got it to work, but here is how. 
 
 First, I did what you said (the first time I left off the shift key.)) I got 
 the menu, but it said about saving frames. I saved one anyway to Downloads. 
 However, that file just saved out the links, etc. , no text of the .brf 
 file. When I called up the file I just saved, the link then didn't ask about 
 frames. It then asked about what you said, about downloading files. When it 
 saved out the file this time. it was saved with a .brf.txt extension. It 
 took off the .txt part, and it works fine in TextEdit now. I forgot to say 
 that I saved the first file I mentioned when it talked about frames in 
 downloads so I should be able, even if I have to change the extensions to 
 save the other files. I've never seen this happen before, and I don' know if 
 it would do the same in Windows or not. I may have to let them know there is 
 a problem. If anybody out there has Windows, could you test it for me and 
 let me know if this is just a Safari thing or if maybe I could change how 
 this web site is showing like emulating Internet Explorer maybe. 
 
 Regards, 
 Gigi
 
 On Oct 26, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Same deal on the mac: right click the link. Move to it in whatever way you 
 want, then bring up the context menu with vo-shift-m and choose download 
 file. Let us know if that does not work.
 On Oct 26, 2012, at 10:58 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi guys. 
 I'm not sure if I need to contact the web site host or what here, so I 
 thought I would run it past you guys first to see if I'm doing something 
 wrong or if I need another command I'm not using or don't know or 
 something. 
 
 I have several files that I would like to download from the Braille 
 Authority of North America web site. I figure I'm going to need to study 
 UEB, just great. Just what I need, another useless project for me. Anyway, 
 every time I go to the web site to download informational files, the link 
 gets activated it Safari opens the file, but I want to download the file 
 and not open it in Safari. I used to inWindows use the Application key 
 which most of the time downloaded the file. Did they set up the web site 
 wrong and I need to contact them or what other command can I use so that I 
 can save the files and send them to my braille display as a brf file. The 
 other thing is that Safari won't let me save the file as a brf file. I 
 changed the name and changed the extension, but unfortunately, I can't get 
 a good brf file this way. Sorry for the length of this post. 
 
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Re: playing music outside of iTunes on the Mac ...

2012-10-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I use vlc. In fact, I've changed some of my defaults for file types to open in 
vlc so they only open in iTunes if i really want them to do so.

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On Oct 27, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 True, I'd forgotten that. Be warned, though, that Quickview chokes on ogg and 
 other files that iTunes won't play, as both use the same decoding libraries 
 behind the scenes.
 On Oct 27, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 if you just want to find a music file in finder, and listen to it, you can 
 just press space bar to play it with quick view.  
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 27, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Jeff Bishop j...@jeffbishop.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 What are people using on their Mac's to play music if not wanting to use
 iTunes? Meaning, I don't want every song or audio I play to be added to
 iTunes. Any advice?
 
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Re: ABBYY FineReader Express OCR app on sale for 50% as today's MacUpdate Promo

2012-10-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Hmm, this full current version link says 10.6; that wouldn't be new for 
Mountain Lion; it would be back on Snow Leopard. I bought this a long time ago 
and was just trying to check on whether there was a newer version than I have.

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On Oct 29, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 This is a late alert, but the OCR app, ABBYY FineReader Express
 version 8.3, is on sale for $49.99 as today's MacUpdate promo:
 http://www.mupromo.com/deal/13388/abbyy-finereader-express
 
 This is half the regular price of $99.99, and is only good for the
 next slightly over four hours. If you've never purchased a MacUpdate
 promo before, you'll need to create a user account that involves a one-
 time negotiation of a CAPTCHA. This gives you access to all your
 receipts of purchases, serial numbers, and download links for the
 applications you purchased at any later time.  There is a trial
 download link from the mupromo.com page, but I believe it's for the
 previous version of the software, version 8.2.  That means if you're
 running Mountain Lion it won't pass the new GateKeeper security, I
 think.  And if you purchase it, you'll need to upgrade in order to run
 the license.
 
 If you do decide to buy the product, you should download the full,
 current version of the app:
 http://www.abbyydownloads.com/FRMACLion/ABBYY_FineReader_Express.dmg
 That way, you don't need to update versions from the trial version,
 and you can just enter the serial number to run this.
 
 Sorry for the late catch, but I picked this up off another list.
 ABBYY FineReader Express will OCR to multiple languages -- most
 European languages and Russian, but not Asian languages like Chinese.
 And yes, it's accessible with VoiceOver.l
 
 HTH. Cheers,
 
 Estther
 
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Re: ABBYY FineReader Express OCR app on sale for 50% as today's MacUpdate Promo

2012-10-30 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Thanks. I was trying to figure out what version I have but it wasn't really 
clear to me from the about window. I know i've done one upgrade since I 
bought it and that's when we started seeing the duplicate buttons in the Quick 
Tasks window. But the link you posted definitely showed as 10.6 when the dmg 
was downloaded and opened. I'll have to go scouting this out eventually in case 
I should be getting a new version.

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On Oct 29, 2012, at 10:04 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Cheryl,
 
 The current version (8.3) is supposed to be good for Mountain Lion,
 and matches the version in the Mac App store that is rated for
 Mountain Lion.  There were comments in the mupromo page asking about
 the version, because the default trial download and link from that web
 site was for version 8.2, and the developer responded by saying you
 should download the version:
 http://www.abbyydownloads.com/FRMACLion/ABBYY_FineReader_Express.dmg
 
 I don't know that there is an updated trial version for 8.3.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Oct 29, 3:41 pm, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hmm, this full current version link says 10.6; that wouldn't be new for 
 Mountain Lion; it would be back on Snow Leopard. I bought this a long time 
 ago and was just trying to check on whether there was a newer version than I 
 have.
 
 --
 Cheryl
 
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 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 On Oct 29, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 This is a late alert, but the OCR app, ABBYY FineReader Express
 version 8.3, is on sale for $49.99 as today's MacUpdate promo:
 http://www.mupromo.com/deal/13388/abbyy-finereader-express
 
 This is half the regular price of $99.99, and is only good for the
 next slightly over four hours. If you've never purchased a MacUpdate
 promo before, you'll need to create a user account that involves a one-
 time negotiation of a CAPTCHA. This gives you access to all your
 receipts of purchases, serial numbers, and download links for the
 applications you purchased at any later time.  There is a trial
 download link from the mupromo.com page, but I believe it's for the
 previous version of the software, version 8.2.  That means if you're
 running Mountain Lion it won't pass the new GateKeeper security, I
 think.  And if you purchase it, you'll need to upgrade in order to run
 the license.
 
 If you do decide to buy the product, you should download the full,
 current version of the app:
 http://www.abbyydownloads.com/FRMACLion/ABBYY_FineReader_Express.dmg
 That way, you don't need to update versions from the trial version,
 and you can just enter the serial number to run this.
 
 Sorry for the late catch, but I picked this up off another list.
 ABBYY FineReader Express will OCR to multiple languages -- most
 European languages and Russian, but not Asian languages like Chinese.
 And yes, it's accessible with VoiceOver.l
 
 HTH. Cheers,
 
 Estther
 
 
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Re: vmware fusion assigning shortcuts

2012-11-02 Thread Cheryl Homiak
It was my understanding that the caps to vo-keys procedure also gives you an 
application key in Windows. If nobody posts this I'll try to find my 
explanation of this; I am sure I must have saved it. But it is correct that, at 
least in windows 7, the shift-f10 key is not completely equivalent to the 
application key.

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On Nov 2, 2012, at 6:02 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Chris.
 One place this doesn't owkr is adding items from the start menu to your task 
 bar.
 Do you have a remedy for that?
 Thanks for any help. 
 On Nov 2, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You can press shift-f10 which simulates the applications key.
 
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 
 On 02/11/2012 20:25, Chris Bruinenberg wrote:
 Hi all.
 Is there a way to have an applications key in vmware fusion without having 
 to install sharp keys?
 I have already used the caps to vo keys and it works great.
 THanks for any help.
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Re: iMac Temperature

2012-11-04 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Also to clarify: there is a larger software program called hardware monitor 
that does a number of things. Temperature monitor itself can be downloaded 
separately and is free. I thought I should point it out because when you go to 
the website you almost immediately hear something about full software, not an 
app; definitely not available on the app store. Then it goes on to explain if 
you keep looking.
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On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Esther,
 
 Mostly accessible may have been the wrong phrase.  I've just noticed that in 
 some cases the temperature is not read out, it just says blank or nothing 
 at all.  You can navigate up and down sometimes or sometimes VO-c will read 
 the Column Header and then read the temperature out loud.  So, I guess it's 
 more a consistency issue than an accessibility issue.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-11-04, at 9:09 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Max, Chris, Tim, and Others,
 
 If it's the same Temperature Monitor application we've been using
 since Tiger, then the URL is:
 
 http://www.bresink.com/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html
 
 It was usually advisable to read the notes at the web site, because
 there were sometimes performance issues for different specific
 hardware configurations. Tim, I haven't tried running this recently.
 what is the mostly accessible qualification under ML?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
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 Hi,
 
 There is also one called Temperature Monitor, mostly accessible and works 
 in ML.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-11-04, at 4:57 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I believe there is a program called fan control.
 it does a similar thing.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hello all, is there a way of telling what Temperature the iMac is running 
 at?
 On the PC I had a program called Speedfan to do this.
 Thanks for any help.
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Re: mac restarted again...

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well, if Windows doesn't reboot and still stayed up and useable, one would 
think it would be a software or setting problem on your Mac side rather than a 
power supply problem. But I seem to remember that you've checked all your 
settings and maybe you reinstalled the Mac side too but I don't remember that 
for sure. The only thing I can think of, short of taking it somewhere, would be 
to completely reinstall everything - Mac, Windows, etc. and reinstall it all. 
But I know that's not a welcome suggestion given that one still has to have 
help to install Windows from a sighted person. Is there anything that you use 
or have plugged in when using the Mac side that you don't for the Windows side? 
Of course, it could be something on your logic board; I don't know if that 
would also affect both sides or not.

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On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I did repair permissions, and there were only ten or so errors. I am not sure 
 how to check my power supply, but windows never rebooted mysteriously so I 
 don't think it is that. Remind me how to reset this PRam again? Thanks.
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Have you resetted your PR ram? Have you tried to repair your disc  and 
 permissions? Have you checked your powersupply? Sounds more like your 
 powersupply is damaged.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.15 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi all,
 I have been in windows since Thursday. I booted back into osx yesterday and 
 things were fine. I left this morning for a couple hours and came back to 
 find my mac had, once again, restarted itself. I did the power cord trick 
 suggested last week and had no problems until now, though, as I said, I was 
 in windows for a few days. This isn't looking good... To remind you all, 
 it's a 2011 Mini with 2gb ram in a cool room. I have no Apple Care, and the 
 nearest Apple store is about two and a half hours away.
 
 
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Re: still no luck with Audible.com

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Okay, i've done this just now and will tell you what to do step by step.

1. Go to audible.com.
2. Tap visit the mobile store
3. Tap the sign in to audible link.
4. If you see a return to webpage link or button, tap that. If instead  you 
see an address with signin.htm on the end but don't see form fields for your 
username and password, tap reload. i'm giving both instructions because it 
seems to vary. I'm sure there are reasons for the variance but don't have time 
to sort that out now.
5. Now you should see the form fields and should be able to sign in. I did this 
successfully.

If this still doesn't work for you, email and explain what you are seeing on 
the page and what step youare on and I'll try to clarify.




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On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Right, the problem isn't that I'm not using the correct sign-in info, it's 
 that I can't access the fields to enter my username and password.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Dave dave...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You can't get to the Audible store from the mobile ap.
 
 Remember that your Audible signin is now your Amazon.com signin.
 
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Re: Infovox iVox adds genuine children's voices to OS X

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I haven't had the chipmunk bug. I use Heather and Ryan constantly and really 
like them. I've also used some of the Spanish and British voices. In fact, I 
almost never use any of the Apple voices; even have the login screen set up for 
an infovox voice.


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On Nov 5, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Traci our4p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow, I found the new children's voices very impressive!
 
 What are people's experiences using Infovox iVox for Mac?  Is it more or less 
 responsive?  Does it have the weird chipmunk bug?  :) You know, Samantha on 
 the Mac, sometimes sounds like a chipmunk.
 
 Thanks, I'm quite interested.
 
 Traci
 Sent by Macbook Air Mail
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 Just to add to the previous post, you can also hear samples of the new
 U.S. Micah voice and the new Australian Tyler voice if you navigate
 through the other entries at the Infovox sample voices page. However,
 the background for developing more children's voice offerings that
 appear in this version 3.1 Infovox release is Assistiveware's work
 with providing voices for autistic children and other children with
 speech disabilities. This is another instance where iOS devices and
 apps have provided more portable and far more affordable solutions to
 individuals with disabilities.  Here are the (shortened) links to the
 earlier development page (that includes other links to the voices with
 different speech samples):
 • A groundbreaking project: two authentic British children's voices
 http://bitly.com/L0gk9t
 • A groundbreaking project part two: two authentic American children's
 voices
 http://bitly.com/Omwpt4
 
 HTH. Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Nov 5, 5:27 am, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 You can find samples of the new voices at the Assistiveware Infovox
 product page for demoing 
 voices:http://www.assistiveware.com/product/infovox-ivox/voices
 
 The fastest way to navigate to the links for the new child voices is
 to use item chooser (VO-I) and type in boy or girl. Alternatively,
 you can navigate to English - American English and find the new
 voices for Josh (boy) and Ella (girl), and then navigate to
 English - British English and find Rosie (girl) and Harry
 (boy).  Just VO-Space on the links to play the samples.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
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Re: without passing through router?

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
What exactly are you trying to do? Do you just want the two computers hooked 
together to transfer files or are you trying to connect them both to the 
internet?

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On Nov 5, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Just wondering if it is possible to connect 2 macs on a wired network 
 directly with a cable. THe router is very far away from both to be close to 
 the dsl plug on the wall. I thought that just connecting with a cable should 
 do it since I did this with pc for migration assistent. 
 If it is indeed possible, how do I make sure the connection works and is it 
 slower than passing through a router?
 
 Thanks for your help.
 
 Best,
 
 Ioana
 
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Re: a little stuck updating Infovox

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
No the greyed-out stuff is because you are in a preliminary window which gives 
you a link to the website and explains something about the voice manager. I 
think if you uncheck open at startup you won't get that window the next time 
you open the voice manager. But for now, close that window and you will be in 
the voices manager. Then in the menus go to check for updates. You'll get a 
warning that the voices manager is running and needs to quit for the update 
(not exact words). This morning i just did continue and I don't think it 
updated. This afternoon I actually quit the manager and then it updated. You 
have to watch with this program though because at least in my experience there 
were some alert windows that came up and I didn't see them until I used my 
window chooser to check.



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On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:27 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:

 Okay,
 
 Like, I don't get it.  I opened the Infovox Ivoice manager figuring I could 
 update from there.  No such luck.  All the items in the menus seemed to be 
 grayed out.  I guess maybe I needed to log in first, but, forgot my password. 
  So, when I went on the site to request a new password, the page came back 
 and told me that my e-mail address was not recognized.  I'm honestly about to 
 remove all this because it seems to me like updating this here is more 
 trouble than it's worth.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 
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Re: a little stuck updating Infovox

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
The reason it worked for you without any problem was that you didn't have that 
one optional window open that can open at startup but doesn't have to be. I was 
a little puzzled when I first saw it myself but now I have that box unchecked.

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On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote:

 That is very, very strange. I just went into apps, ran the infovox manager 
 thing, did check for updates, and it worked like a dream. It was fully 
 updated within 5 minutes. Granted, I can't afford any of the new voices at 
 the moment, but they're there if I want them.
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 5:27 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: a little stuck updating Infovox
 
 Okay,
 
 Like, I don't get it.  I opened the Infovox Ivoice manager figuring I could 
 update from there.  No such luck.  All the items in the menus seemed to be 
 grayed out.  I guess maybe I needed to log in first, but, forgot my password. 
  So, when I went on the site to request a new password, the page came back 
 and told me that my e-mail address was not recognized.  I'm honestly about to 
 remove all this because it seems to me like updating this here is more 
 trouble than it's worth.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 
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Re: all well with Infovox update.

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well, this is kind of strange. I downloaded Ella and started the demo. I was 
promptly warned that the demo voices require an Internet connection and to make 
sure I'm connected to the internet when the voice is being used. That's all 
very good and well! But what if your Internet goes down, unbeknowns to you, 
while running the demo? In the past, if a trial period ran out or for some 
reason you reinstalled on your computer and didn't have the license in on a 
voice, it would repeat its introductory sentences and I think maybe say 
something about not being installed ad infinitum while you tried to manage to 
navigate to voiceover utility and change the voice. That wouldn't be very 
pleasant if that's the way it still works so I don't know if I want to use a 
demo voice and be stuck trying to fix a problem. It used to be that the demos 
had a time limit but you weren't required to be connected to the Internet to 
use them if I recall correctly.


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On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:

 This time, all went well with the Infovox update.  Just can't seem to retreve 
 my password now.
 
 thanks for y'all's help.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
The only thing is: if you want to do a restore instead of a clean install, even 
of just the Mac side, you want to be sure that whatever is causing the problem 
just doesn't get reinstalled or set again. So if it were me, I would lean to 
erasing the Mac partition and clean installing instead of any kind of restore. 
Then you can maybe troubleshoot what causes the problem if it starts happening 
again.

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On Nov 5, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good to know, that makes this easier. What happens to my user data, such as 
 apps, app settings, music, and everything else in /applications or the ~/ 
 folders? What I mean is, does this do some sort of in-place install, or does 
 it format the osx partition and reinstall everything?
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You don't have to delete your windows partition.
 I restore my quite often and don't have to erase my boot camp partition.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I was at my desk, reading a book on my apex, when I heard my mac give the 
 startup chime. It had restarted, just hours after the last time this 
 happened (sometime around 10:00 this morning, and it's now about 7:30). I 
 have repaired disk permissions, and there were no errors. I have reset my 
 PRam. I have pulled out the power cord for the recommended time. As I said 
 before, when I am in windows this does not happen, which tells me this is 
 probably not a hardware problem with the Mini. If there's anything else I 
 can try, please let me know. Yes, re-installing OSX may have to happen, but 
 I'm hoping for a less drastic solution that does not involve wiping my 
 drive before I resort to that step, especially as I have no one whom I 
 would trust to help with a bootcamp/windows install at the moment. If I did 
 have to reformat, I'd probably forego windows for a while, but I would want 
 it back eventually simply to play audio games. Fusion or Virtualbox may be 
 coming to a mac near me relatively soon... Anyway, thanks for your 
 continued suggestions.
 
 
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infovox nag messages and new voices

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I just got a nag message. They must be occasional reminders.

I like Ella but she can't keep up with my typing like Heather and Ryan can and 
she sounds like she's kind of going to have throat strain from trying to 
enunciate clearly. It's something in her pitch; I may have to play with it a 
little bit. Glad I haven't bought yet; I like Will so far but I don't know if 
i'll come to like him as well as Heather and Ryan. If I keep Ella, she won't be 
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Re: infovox nag messages and new voices

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
You know you can use the pronunciation editor and make them pronounce it 
correctly!

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On Nov 5, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Traci our4p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Since rebooting, I haven't received the nag msg.  I actually hadn't received 
 it with Josh, but was getting it with Will.
 
 I'm really enjoying Will.  Josh is fun to have around, but he wouldn't be my 
 default.  Kind of like having Charlie Brown speaking my computer.  :)
 
 Traci, Lol, and none of them can pronounce Traci.
 Sent by Macbook Air Mail
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just got a nag message. They must be occasional reminders.
 
 I like Ella but she can't keep up with my typing like Heather and Ryan can 
 and she sounds like she's kind of going to have throat strain from trying to 
 enunciate clearly. It's something in her pitch; I may have to play with it a 
 little bit. Glad I haven't bought yet; I like Will so far but I don't know 
 if i'll come to like him as well as Heather and Ryan. If I keep Ella, she 
 won't be my default voice.
 
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Warning about infovox demos

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
i just had a real bout of the nag message. When I would command-tab it would 
give the nag message every other tab and the window I was in on alternate ones. 
the rest of the time i got the nag message. I got it to stop by turning vo on 
and off. But I've uninstalled Ella and I will soon decide whether to buy or 
uninstall Will and he certainly won't be my default voice unless and until I 
buy him.

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Re: Warning about infovox demos

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, I sent them an email also. I also mentioned that having the demo require 
an internet connection could cause problem's if an Internet connection fails 
unexpectedly.

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On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:17 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Cheryl. I've written to Assistiveware that we're all experiencing this 
 issue. I'll keep you posted if they can reproduce it or not. Until then, I 
 encourage anyone on this list to write to supp...@assistiveware.com and tell 
 them the issue. The more people do this, the faster they'll fix it. And to 
 answer your question, yes, I have rebooted and I still get the nag messages.
 
 Shawn
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Re: Finder's oddities causing problems for a new user

2012-11-06 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Why are you using cmd-shift-g and typing? Just open the window the books are 
coming from and open the window they are going to. Then Do cmd-c to copy and 
cmd-accent to go to the other window and cmd-v to paste. And i suspect if your 
view is changing, there's a reason; I could be wrong but I don't think it's an 
oddity that happens without reason. But I am afraid that without more 
information I can't tell you why it's happening.
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On Nov 6, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 I'm still helping my friend with the new iMac. Last week we worked on moving 
 downloaded and unzipped Bard books to an NLS cartridge. Unfortunately, Finder 
 didn't cooperate, sometimes changing its view mode so that keystrokes I was 
 trying to teach him no longer worked. The problem came in getting from the 
 downloads folder, where the books are, to the cartridge's root. Personally I 
 just hit cmd-shift-g, type in /volumes, and go on my way, but I was hoping 
 for a simpler system to teach. So, is there a way to lock everything into 
 whatever view lets us left arrow to volumes and then down arrow to the 
 cartridge? Failing that, is there a way I could hack together a script, to be 
 triggered with a keystroke, which would do the copying automatically? Thanks.
 
 
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Re: Finder's oddities causing problems for a new user

2012-11-06 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Okay, Now I see why you are using cmd-shift-g. I think if you just opened the 
drive on the desktop it might ultimately be easier and your view shouldn't 
change. But if you think it's easier to do cmd-shift-g, you can type part of 
the / Vol and tab and it will complete and you can just do the whole path from 
there. You probably know what I mean but type:
/Vaol (tab) yourdrive (tab), etc. Then if you need to access it more than once, 
you just leave the window open and cmd-accent to it. 


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On Nov 6, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why are you using cmd-shift-g and typing? Just open the window the books are 
 coming from and open the window they are going to. Then Do cmd-c to copy and 
 cmd-accent to go to the other window and cmd-v to paste. And i suspect if 
 your view is changing, there's a reason; I could be wrong but I don't think 
 it's an oddity that happens without reason. But I am afraid that without more 
 information I can't tell you why it's happening.
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 6, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I'm still helping my friend with the new iMac. Last week we worked on moving 
 downloaded and unzipped Bard books to an NLS cartridge. Unfortunately, 
 Finder didn't cooperate, sometimes changing its view mode so that keystrokes 
 I was trying to teach him no longer worked. The problem came in getting from 
 the downloads folder, where the books are, to the cartridge's root. 
 Personally I just hit cmd-shift-g, type in /volumes, and go on my way, but I 
 was hoping for a simpler system to teach. So, is there a way to lock 
 everything into whatever view lets us left arrow to volumes and then down 
 arrow to the cartridge? Failing that, is there a way I could hack together a 
 script, to be triggered with a keystroke, which would do the copying 
 automatically? Thanks.
 
 
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Re: Finder's oddities causing problems for a new user

2012-11-07 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, also remember that you can change the view pretty easily though I know 
that's an added step if you have to do it.

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On Nov 7, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I find cmd-shift-g easier for me, but this guy would not like that solution 
 so I'm hoping for a simpler one. I forgot that volumes appear on the desktop 
 once mounted, that's something to look into.
 On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:35 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Okay, Now I see why you are using cmd-shift-g. I think if you just opened 
 the drive on the desktop it might ultimately be easier and your view 
 shouldn't change. But if you think it's easier to do cmd-shift-g, you can 
 type part of the / Vol and tab and it will complete and you can just do the 
 whole path from there. You probably know what I mean but type:
 /Vaol (tab) yourdrive (tab), etc. Then if you need to access it more than 
 once, you just leave the window open and cmd-accent to it. 
 
 
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 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
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 On Nov 6, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Why are you using cmd-shift-g and typing? Just open the window the books 
 are coming from and open the window they are going to. Then Do cmd-c to 
 copy and cmd-accent to go to the other window and cmd-v to paste. And i 
 suspect if your view is changing, there's a reason; I could be wrong but I 
 don't think it's an oddity that happens without reason. But I am afraid 
 that without more information I can't tell you why it's happening.
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
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 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
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 On Nov 6, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I'm still helping my friend with the new iMac. Last week we worked on 
 moving downloaded and unzipped Bard books to an NLS cartridge. 
 Unfortunately, Finder didn't cooperate, sometimes changing its view mode 
 so that keystrokes I was trying to teach him no longer worked. The problem 
 came in getting from the downloads folder, where the books are, to the 
 cartridge's root. Personally I just hit cmd-shift-g, type in /volumes, and 
 go on my way, but I was hoping for a simpler system to teach. So, is there 
 a way to lock everything into whatever view lets us left arrow to volumes 
 and then down arrow to the cartridge? Failing that, is there a way I could 
 hack together a script, to be triggered with a keystroke, which would do 
 the copying automatically? Thanks.
 
 
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Re: An Update From Assistiveware Regarding Infovox Ivox Demo Voices

2012-11-07 Thread Cheryl Homiak
No, I had the same problem and wrote them about it too and they told me the 
same thing. I ended up uninstalling Ella but I bought Will since I already have 
a lot of the English U.S. and English British voices and Spanish voices and 
know that I like them. Their customer service is usally very helpful.


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On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Maria  Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:

 HI.  oh cool. I thought i was the only one having this problem.
 
 So, I'm not the only one, at least they are looking in to it.
 
 I wonder if we'll be able to get another trial of the voices we activated for 
 a trial?
 
 
 God Bless! Maria from australia
  Newbie mac user.
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 will get you fb as well as email  iMessage.   
 skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 07/11/2012, at 5:48 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone. As promised, here is what Assistiveware says about the issue 
 we're experiencing.
 
 
 
 
 From:
 AssistiveWare (Martijn)
 To:
 bigbigshawn@gmail.com
 Subject:
 AW {37345} RE: New Voices Giving Me Demo Messages
 ## Reply ABOVE THIS LINE to add a note to this request ##
 Request update   View the complete request
 Dear Shawn,
 
 We're investigating the problem at the moment. The cause may be in the 
 internet connection. Since the hurricane the connection to eastern US is not 
 that good. Infovox iVox has a one minute time-out on contacting the server 
 for demo purposes. This may be too fast at the moment.
 
 I would like to ask you some additional questions. If you could take the 
 time to answer them this would be great.
 
 - Did you upgrade from Infovox iVox version 3.0, or was Infovox iVox 3.1 a 
 new installation of your computer.
 
 - Did you stop and restart the application that says this is an evaluation 
 version? This might be Voice Over.
 
 - Did you restart the computer, and if so, does the problem persist after 
 the restart?
 
 With kind regards,
 
 Martijn
 
 Check your request online: 
 https://support.assistiveware.com/index.php?pg=request.checkid=37345woczpiid=37345woczpi
 Request access key: 37345woczpi
 
 
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Re: Anyone have Terminal tricks and resources?

2012-11-07 Thread Cheryl Homiak
There's a take Control book on using terminal in Mac.

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On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:

 It really depends on what you want to know. I don't have any ersources, but 
 know a lot about using terminal, so ask whatever questions you might have.
 
 Brandon
 
 Azavia Technologies
 
 
 On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Mike M blinkin4...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Calling all geeks!
  I have been digging around and trying to heather resources to teach 
 myself how to use Terminal.
  I have learned some basics but wanted to put out some feelers and see 
 if you guys had some resources that you could recommend.
  I appreciate any tips and I am off to search archives
 
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Re: Another Update About Infovox Demo Voices

2012-11-07 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I got this too and i wrote back and told them that didn't make sense. You can't 
just use a voice in isolation with voiceover. They wrote back and said they 
meant an application such as Visiovoice but I emailed back and told them I had 
not opened visiovoice at all while using the demo.

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On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi guys. I've received another email about the Infovox voices. It appears 
 that the problem occurs when using the voices with more than 1 app. See below.
 Dear Shawn,
 
 We've traced back the problem with the demo voices. It happens to occur when 
 two different application use the same voice in demo mode. For example Voice 
 Over and another application. 
 
 We're investigating the problem and will try to come up with a solution. I'm 
 afraid that in the meantime the only solution we can offer is to ask you to 
 test the voices with one voice application only.
 
 Please note that the problem should not occur for activated (purchased) 
 voices.
 
 Wit kind regards,
 
 Martijn
 
 
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Re: Another Update About Infovox Demo Voices

2012-11-08 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I wasn't running any of those. Plus it would be ridiculous to bother with a 
demo if you have to be that careful. Their demos in the past haven't done this 
and their demos in the past didn't require an Internet connection. Also, they 
say that this doesn't happen with the voices once they are purchased. If I 
understood correctly, the demos used to be exactlyu the same as the regular 
functioning of the voices except for the fact that they quit after thirty days; 
I don't understand why they should be now working any differently than if you 
had purchased the voice. The purpose in a thirty-day demo should be to make 
sure the voice really works with your system.


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On Nov 8, 2012, at 3:37 AM, Justin Ekis je...@me.com wrote:

 Hi Cheryl,
 
 I haven't experienced this myself, but I think I may understand what they 
 mean. Basically, reading any app with Voiceover is fine. The problem must be 
 when other apps try to speak using the system voice. Visiovoice was just 
 their example of the kind of app they were warning against. Some other 
 examples would be the speech output for Growl, or setting up certain apps 
 like adium, Messages/iChat, or Skype to automatically speak events. Another 
 example is apps that are self-voicing such as the RS Games client. Also, If 
 you configure the Mac in system preferences to automatically speak the time 
 or to speak alerts after a delay. Basically, anything else that tries to use 
 the voice on it's own while voiceover is running will apparently cause that 
 problem with the demo.
 
 I hope this explanation makes sense.
 
  On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I got this too and i wrote back and told them that didn't make sense. You 
 can't just use a voice in isolation with voiceover. They wrote back and said 
 they meant an application such as Visiovoice but I emailed back and told 
 them I had not opened visiovoice at all while using the demo.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bigbigshawn@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi guys. I've received another email about the Infovox voices. It appears 
 that the problem occurs when using the voices with more than 1 app. See 
 below.
 Dear Shawn,
 
 We've traced back the problem with the demo voices. It happens to occur 
 when two different application use the same voice in demo mode. For example 
 Voice Over and another application. 
 
 We're investigating the problem and will try to come up with a solution. 
 I'm afraid that in the meantime the only solution we can offer is to ask 
 you to test the voices with one voice application only.
 
 Please note that the problem should not occur for activated (purchased) 
 voices.
 
 Wit kind regards,
 
 Martijn
 
 
 Shawn
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Re: Another Update About Infovox Demo Voices

2012-11-08 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Where are you having trouble figuring out how to buy? Are you having trouble 
after you go to www.assistiveware.com
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On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:38 AM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:

 However, everytime I've used those voices, just in textedit or on safari, it 
 gives me that message. No system voice is speaking when this happens.
 I'm still trying to figure out how to purchase these voices so that I don't 
 get these messages anymore.
 Thanks.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2012-11-08, at 2:37 AM, Justin Ekis je...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Cheryl,
 
 I haven't experienced this myself, but I think I may understand what they 
 mean. Basically, reading any app with Voiceover is fine. The problem must be 
 when other apps try to speak using the system voice. Visiovoice was just 
 their example of the kind of app they were warning against. Some other 
 examples would be the speech output for Growl, or setting up certain apps 
 like adium, Messages/iChat, or Skype to automatically speak events. Another 
 example is apps that are self-voicing such as the RS Games client. Also, If 
 you configure the Mac in system preferences to automatically speak the time 
 or to speak alerts after a delay. Basically, anything else that tries to use 
 the voice on it's own while voiceover is running will apparently cause that 
 problem with the demo.
 
 I hope this explanation makes sense.
 
 On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I got this too and i wrote back and told them that didn't make sense. You 
 can't just use a voice in isolation with voiceover. They wrote back and 
 said they meant an application such as Visiovoice but I emailed back and 
 told them I had not opened visiovoice at all while using the demo.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bigbigshawn@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi guys. I've received another email about the Infovox voices. It appears 
 that the problem occurs when using the voices with more than 1 app. See 
 below.
 Dear Shawn,
 
 We've traced back the problem with the demo voices. It happens to occur 
 when two different application use the same voice in demo mode. For 
 example Voice Over and another application. 
 
 We're investigating the problem and will try to come up with a solution. 
 I'm afraid that in the meantime the only solution we can offer is to ask 
 you to test the voices with one voice application only.
 
 Please note that the problem should not occur for activated (purchased) 
 voices.
 
 Wit kind regards,
 
 Martijn
 
 
 Shawn
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Re: Another Update About Infovox Demo Voices

2012-11-08 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well, please be more specific if possible. What trouble are you having exactly?

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On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, having ttrouble when onthe website.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2012-11-08, at 7:34 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Where are you having trouble figuring out how to buy? Are you having trouble 
 after you go to www.assistiveware.com
 - 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:38 AM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 However, everytime I've used those voices, just in textedit or on safari, 
 it gives me that message. No system voice is speaking when this happens.
 I'm still trying to figure out how to purchase these voices so that I don't 
 get these messages anymore.
 Thanks.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2012-11-08, at 2:37 AM, Justin Ekis je...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Cheryl,
 
 I haven't experienced this myself, but I think I may understand what they 
 mean. Basically, reading any app with Voiceover is fine. The problem must 
 be when other apps try to speak using the system voice. Visiovoice was 
 just their example of the kind of app they were warning against. Some 
 other examples would be the speech output for Growl, or setting up certain 
 apps like adium, Messages/iChat, or Skype to automatically speak events. 
 Another example is apps that are self-voicing such as the RS Games client. 
 Also, If you configure the Mac in system preferences to automatically 
 speak the time or to speak alerts after a delay. Basically, anything else 
 that tries to use the voice on it's own while voiceover is running will 
 apparently cause that problem with the demo.
 
 I hope this explanation makes sense.
 
 On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I got this too and i wrote back and told them that didn't make sense. You 
 can't just use a voice in isolation with voiceover. They wrote back and 
 said they meant an application such as Visiovoice but I emailed back and 
 told them I had not opened visiovoice at all while using the demo.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bigbigshawn@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi guys. I've received another email about the Infovox voices. It 
 appears that the problem occurs when using the voices with more than 1 
 app. See below.
 Dear Shawn,
 
 We've traced back the problem with the demo voices. It happens to occur 
 when two different application use the same voice in demo mode. For 
 example Voice Over and another application. 
 
 We're investigating the problem and will try to come up with a solution. 
 I'm afraid that in the meantime the only solution we can offer is to ask 
 you to test the voices with one voice application only.
 
 Please note that the problem should not occur for activated (purchased) 
 voices.
 
 Wit kind regards,
 
 Martijn
 
 
 Shawn
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Re: Another Update About Infovox Demo Voices

2012-11-08 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Okay, do you already have infovox voices or are these your first ones that you 
want to buy? And do you already have the Infovox Ivox Voice Manager installed?

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On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:

 Having trouelbe purchasing credits and activating.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2012-11-08, at 1:27 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, please be more specific if possible. What trouble are you having 
 exactly?
 
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 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, having ttrouble when onthe website.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2012-11-08, at 7:34 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Where are you having trouble figuring out how to buy? Are you having 
 trouble after you go to www.assistiveware.com
 - 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:38 AM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 However, everytime I've used those voices, just in textedit or on safari, 
 it gives me that message. No system voice is speaking when this happens.
 I'm still trying to figure out how to purchase these voices so that I 
 don't get these messages anymore.
 Thanks.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2012-11-08, at 2:37 AM, Justin Ekis je...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Cheryl,
 
 I haven't experienced this myself, but I think I may understand what 
 they mean. Basically, reading any app with Voiceover is fine. The 
 problem must be when other apps try to speak using the system voice. 
 Visiovoice was just their example of the kind of app they were warning 
 against. Some other examples would be the speech output for Growl, or 
 setting up certain apps like adium, Messages/iChat, or Skype to 
 automatically speak events. Another example is apps that are 
 self-voicing such as the RS Games client. Also, If you configure the Mac 
 in system preferences to automatically speak the time or to speak alerts 
 after a delay. Basically, anything else that tries to use the voice on 
 it's own while voiceover is running will apparently cause that problem 
 with the demo.
 
 I hope this explanation makes sense.
 
 On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I got this too and i wrote back and told them that didn't make sense. 
 You can't just use a voice in isolation with voiceover. They wrote back 
 and said they meant an application such as Visiovoice but I emailed 
 back and told them I had not opened visiovoice at all while using the 
 demo.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bigbigshawn@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi guys. I've received another email about the Infovox voices. It 
 appears that the problem occurs when using the voices with more than 1 
 app. See below.
 Dear Shawn,
 
 We've traced back the problem with the demo voices. It happens to 
 occur when two different application use the same voice in demo mode. 
 For example Voice Over and another application. 
 
 We're investigating the problem and will try to come up with a 
 solution. I'm afraid that in the meantime the only solution we can 
 offer is to ask you to test the voices with one voice application only.
 
 Please note that the problem should not occur for activated 
 (purchased) voices.
 
 Wit kind regards,
 
 Martijn
 
 
 Shawn
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Purchasing Infovox

2012-11-08 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Here's the link you want.

http://www.assistiveware.com/product/infovox-ivox/buy

Be sure to look at the explanation of the cost of the voices in credits. You 
buy the credits first and then apply them to buy a specific voice in the 
infovox ivox voice manager. You didn't specify whether or not you have the 
infovox ivox voice manager; I would think it would have been installed when you 
downloaded the demo but I'm not sure. Look in /Applications. You use the voice 
manager to create an account and keep track of your voices and credits.


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my rock and my Redeemer.
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On Nov 8, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:

 These are my first purchases, and I have the 30 day demo
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2012-11-08, at 2:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Okay, do you already have infovox voices or are these your first ones that 
 you want to buy? And do you already have the Infovox Ivox Voice Manager 
 installed?
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Having trouelbe purchasing credits and activating.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2012-11-08, at 1:27 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, please be more specific if possible. What trouble are you having 
 exactly?
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Yes, having ttrouble when onthe website.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2012-11-08, at 7:34 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Where are you having trouble figuring out how to buy? Are you having 
 trouble after you go to www.assistiveware.com
 - 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:38 AM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 However, everytime I've used those voices, just in textedit or on 
 safari, it gives me that message. No system voice is speaking when this 
 happens.
 I'm still trying to figure out how to purchase these voices so that I 
 don't get these messages anymore.
 Thanks.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2012-11-08, at 2:37 AM, Justin Ekis je...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Cheryl,
 
 I haven't experienced this myself, but I think I may understand what 
 they mean. Basically, reading any app with Voiceover is fine. The 
 problem must be when other apps try to speak using the system voice. 
 Visiovoice was just their example of the kind of app they were warning 
 against. Some other examples would be the speech output for Growl, or 
 setting up certain apps like adium, Messages/iChat, or Skype to 
 automatically speak events. Another example is apps that are 
 self-voicing such as the RS Games client. Also, If you configure the 
 Mac in system preferences to automatically speak the time or to speak 
 alerts after a delay. Basically, anything else that tries to use the 
 voice on it's own while voiceover is running will apparently cause 
 that problem with the demo.
 
 I hope this explanation makes sense.
 
 On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I got this too and i wrote back and told them that didn't make sense. 
 You can't just use a voice in isolation with voiceover. They wrote 
 back and said they meant an application such as Visiovoice but I 
 emailed back and told them I had not opened visiovoice at all while 
 using the demo.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Shawn Krasniuk 
 bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi guys. I've received another email about the Infovox voices. It 
 appears that the problem occurs when using the voices with more than 
 1 app. See below.
 Dear Shawn,
 
 We've traced back the problem with the demo voices. It happens to 
 occur when two different application use the same voice in demo 
 mode. For example Voice Over and another application. 
 
 We're investigating the problem and will try to come up with a 
 solution. I'm afraid that in the meantime the only solution we can 
 offer is to ask you to test the voices with one voice application 
 only.
 
 Please note that the problem should not occur for activated 
 (purchased) voices.
 
 Wit kind regards,
 
 Martijn
 
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my white Mac Book
 
 
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Re: What gives with Spotlight and opening documents with the new software update?

2012-11-09 Thread Cheryl Homiak
It may be that somehow your keyboard focus has gotten messed up. Try turning 
voiceover off and on again. Also, are you opening from spotlight with vo-keys 
or just with return. I always open items from spotlight with return only; to 
use vo-keys-space requires that both your voiceover cursor and your keyboard 
cursor be on the menu item and this isn't always the case. Finally, sometimes 
when i hit enter on an item in spotlight I'll hear something that makes it 
sounds like I'm ending up somewhere else: for instance, something about one of 
my menu extras. But when I arrow down in the window i am in, I find that I have 
indeed had Text Edit open the file.

Hth.

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be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
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On Nov 9, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hmm. Tried that. But I'll try again. Don't know what is going on here.
 Christine
 On Nov 9, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 You might have the toolbar of the application in focus when the file opens. 
 Try stopping interaction with the toolbar with VO-shift-up-arrow and then 
 navigate the text area.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 On Nov 9, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Is it my imagination, user error, or both? I am growing increasingly 
 frustrated this morning with my inability to open documents quickly from 
 Spotlight or from the Documents folder. 
 Before, I would search for a title or phrase, find it with Spotlight, and 
 open it. Alternatively, I would choose a document from the documents 
 folder, open it, and no problem.
 Now, unless I go into Text Edit, hit open, and use the list to locate my 
 document, or type in a title, I get all sorts of nonsense to slog through, 
 rather than a quickly opened file.
 For example, when using Spotlight, clicking on a file brings up the 
 Spotlight preferences menu. When choosing a document in the documents 
 folder, I get a tool bar, search, and all the weirdness that comes up 
 lately when I try opening a bookshare book in Safari. Can anyone shed any 
 light on this or tell me what the heck I can do to get things back to some 
 semblance of normalcy? Thanks.
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Re: changing the genre of iTunes Albums?

2012-11-13 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I think cmd-i gets you to the same place. Unless you've set it not to ask you, 
you will be asked if you want to edit multiple items or something like that.

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On Nov 13, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:

 Select all the tracks of the album, press VO+shift+M, and go to get info.
 Navigate to the info tab, it may be called something different, and look for
 a genre dropdown.
 
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 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: changing the genre of iTunes Albums?
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have some albums whose genre I would like to change.  For example, they
 show as Classical, I'd like them labeled Holiday.  Anyone know how to do
 this?
 TIA,
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Re: TextEdit becomes unusable after sending selected text to it.

2012-11-14 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I agree it should work since it is an available option but I've always thought 
that was too much work so I've never done it that way. I just select my text, 
copy it, cmd-tab to text edit or open it from dock if it isn't opened, and 
pasted. This has somehow seemed easier to me than going through menus but I 
imagine it all comes down to what one is used to doing.


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On Nov 14, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mark,
 
 Go to the menu bar, to the name of the application, down to the services 
 menu, and within that menu you will have an option which says New TextEdit 
 windows containing selection.  You first need to select the text you want to 
 show up in TextEdit, then go and perform this command.  I don't remember if 
 the command has to be activated within System Preferences for it to show up 
 in the Services menu, or if that is only for the shortcut command to work.
 
 This is a useful command for reviewing all formatting, for making some PDF 
 documents read more easily, or for looking at automatic page numbers in 
 Pages, which Voiceover reads as blank or space.
 
 HOpe this helps,
 
 Harry
 
 On nov 14, 2012, at 4:19 p.m., Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Which command is this? I can select any portion of an Email, copy it to the 
 pasteboard, then launch Textedit with a keystroke and paste it in.  Which 
 other way is there to do this?
 
 
 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
 • AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
 • MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
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Re: Downloading a file when Pressing on the file opens said file in safari

2012-11-14 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes. Try option-return.

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On Nov 15, 2012, at 12:41 AM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I know that's a long subject title, but I was wondering if anyone knew what 
 the keystroke was to download a file in safari if the file opens when you do 
 a VO space on it?
 Thanks.
 
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Re: delete characters right to the cursor with one key

2012-11-15 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, you can look through keyremap4macbookpro for options to do this. However, 
I will say that at first I thought I couldn't get along without a forward 
delete key but now I'm so used to doing the back delete that I rarely need the 
forward delete.

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On Nov 16, 2012, at 1:30 AM, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 It should be nice if I could delete also characters right from the cursor 
 like you can do on windows with the delete key.
 Basically on a macbook air you could do it by pressing Fn and  the delete key 
 of the mack
 But I would like to have simply one key for  deleting text right from the 
 cursor.
 Is this possible with any kind of remapping with external programs are 
 internal programs on osx?
 
 kind regards,
 
 William 
 
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Re: Importing CDs in to iTunes

2012-11-23 Thread Cheryl Homiak
First of all, you should check each cd before you let it be imported. It's 
possible for iTunes to identify a cd incorrectly and also, the database may 
come up with several possibilitiies from which you have to choose.

If you know that your cd is being misidentified, you can use cmd-i on all the 
tracks together and enter the correct information for the album manually before 
importing and also can do each of the tracks individually for a cd. Or you 
could wait until you have imported the cd and then select all the tracks to put 
the album information in. But if you wait until all the hundreds of cds have 
been imported, it will be a much more difficult job.

I understand the problem somewhat as I have a slightly different but related 
one. I unfortunately didn't have the foresight to know that someday iTunes 
would come along. So several years before iTunes became accessible, before I 
even owned a Mac, I ripped all my cds and then gave the cds away to friends. 
That was okay except that iTunes, when I began using it, was not able to 
identify a lot of my ripped material correctly; apparently the id tag 
information was done differently. So to this day I don't have a lot of my music 
in iTunes because it would be too scrambled up and I don't have the time to 
spend straightening it out. Since you have original cds, as long as you proceed 
with your importing systematically, I would think you shouldn't have such a 
drastic problem. This is as much as i know and probably others on list will 
have more detailed advice. I would just say: Proceed with caution as you import 
each cd.


Hth.

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On Nov 23, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Hello all, I am importing hundreds of CDs in to iTunes. I am finding that 
 some CDs are imported track by track and not as a complete album. I have 
 selected the tracks to an album and gone in to the info section but could not 
 find any to check to be part of a compilation or similar. 
 Can anybody help here?
 Thanks as always.
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Re: Importing CDs in to iTunes

2012-11-23 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well, doesn't this mean iTunes is not identifying the tracks in the cd as an 
album but only as the tracks?

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On Nov 23, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Thanks, I don't have any problems identifying the CDs it is iTunes not 
 importing all CDs as one album but separate tracks. This only happens with a 
 few albums.
 Max.
 On 24/11/2012, at 8:45 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 First of all, you should check each cd before you let it be imported. It's 
 possible for iTunes to identify a cd incorrectly and also, the database may 
 come up with several possibilitiies from which you have to choose.
 
 If you know that your cd is being misidentified, you can use cmd-i on all 
 the tracks together and enter the correct information for the album manually 
 before importing and also can do each of the tracks individually for a cd. 
 Or you could wait until you have imported the cd and then select all the 
 tracks to put the album information in. But if you wait until all the 
 hundreds of cds have been imported, it will be a much more difficult job.
 
 I understand the problem somewhat as I have a slightly different but related 
 one. I unfortunately didn't have the foresight to know that someday iTunes 
 would come along. So several years before iTunes became accessible, before I 
 even owned a Mac, I ripped all my cds and then gave the cds away to friends. 
 That was okay except that iTunes, when I began using it, was not able to 
 identify a lot of my ripped material correctly; apparently the id tag 
 information was done differently. So to this day I don't have a lot of my 
 music in iTunes because it would be too scrambled up and I don't have the 
 time to spend straightening it out. Since you have original cds, as long as 
 you proceed with your importing systematically, I would think you shouldn't 
 have such a drastic problem. This is as much as i know and probably others 
 on list will have more detailed advice. I would just say: Proceed with 
 caution as you import each cd.
 
 
 Hth.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 23, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hello all, I am importing hundreds of CDs in to iTunes. I am finding that 
 some CDs are imported track by track and not as a complete album. I have 
 selected the tracks to an album and gone in to the info section but could 
 not find any to check to be part of a compilation or similar. 
 Can anybody help here?
 Thanks as always.
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Re: finding mp3 imports in iTunes

2012-11-26 Thread Cheryl Homiak
If they were imported they would be harder to find without an artist and album. 
If you arrange your library according to the date added the most recently added 
files will be either at the bottom or the top in your music library. You do 
this by getting on the date added column and doing vokeys-c to make sure you 
are on the right column and then doing vo-shift-backslash if you want to order 
by that column. You may just be able to look down the column to find the right 
date without rearranging anything. If you don't have a date added in the 
music browser, do cmd-j for the viewing options and check the date added box 
and then press ok or just press return. If you aren't in the music browser 
view, you change this by doing vokeys-m and going over to the view column and 
changing to this; there might be a quicker way to change to that view but I 
can't think of it right now. Before I figured this out, I had quite a few 
entries in my library I didn't know about since the album and artist were blank.


Hth.
 
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On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chris, turns out the files I was importing were corrupted. Even though, I 
 thought I'd find the corrupted files in iTunes. I'm assuming it was the 
 corruption factor that did something to make the files invisible - maybe they 
 were'nt actually imported.
  
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 From: Chris Blouch
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:50 PM
 Subject: Re: finding mp3 imports in iTunes
 
 Should be in there somewhere. All my random MP3s were in the folder:
 
 ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music/Unknown Artist/Unknown Album
 
 CB
 
 On 11/26/12 4:36 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
 How can I find the mp3 files I just imported into iTunes? They were untagged 
 mp3's, but I thought I could at least find them by searching for their file 
 names in the music folder, but no luck. I can't find them anywhere in my 
 iTunes library.
  
 This is crazy, can you help? I know that mp3's are by default loaded into 
 the music library, but I've looked and can't find them.
  
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Re: finding mp3 imports in iTunes

2012-11-26 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Oh yeah, that's true. I had forgotten this because sometimes when i did this 
the items were not recently added. Sorry for making it complicated!

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On Nov 26, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Phil and Others,
 
 You can always find items that you add to iTunes, even with no tag
 information, by selecting the Recenly Added smart playlist in the
 sources list. Then use VO-J or else navigate with your arrow keys to
 the list of tracks, which will appear in the chronological order they
 were added to iTunes.  Use VO-J again to jump back to the smart
 playlist in the sources list. The Recently Added smart playlist
 contains all tracks added to iTunes in the last two weeks that are not
 flagged as podcasts. You can modify the criteria in the rules section
 to change this (e.g. to make this tracks added in the last day, or
 over a specific date range) by using the context menu (VO-Shift-M)
 when focused on this smart playlist to choose the option to edit the
 smart playlist.  Alternatively, you can create your own smart playlist
 based on date added and any tag information you may have.
 
 You can also identify the untagged tracks by pressing space bar to
 play/pause tracks in your smart playlist, then arrow down to the next
 and use space bar to play/pause the next track.  Then you can select a
 bunch of these tracks by holding down your shift key while you arrow
 down through the group you want, and do a Command-I (get info) to
 edit the tag fields for album and artist.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
   On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Should be in there somewhere. All my random MP3s were in the folder:
 
 ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music/Unknown Artist/Unknown Album
 
 CB
 
 On 11/26/12 4:36 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
 
   How can I find the mp3 files I just imported into iTunes? They were 
 untagged mp3's, but I thought I could at least find them by searching for 
 their file names in the music folder, but no luck. I can't find them 
 anywhere in my iTunes library.
 
   This is crazy, can you help? I know that mp3's are by default loaded 
 into the music library, but I've looked and can't find them.
 
 
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Re: Mactubes

2012-11-26 Thread Cheryl Homiak
No, I can't confirm that because I am downloading using MacTubes right this 
minute as I have been doing since I got this app. I do my search, start my song 
playing, then do vokeys-shift-m on the player menu and arrow down to download 
and choose my option; usually hd and mp4 are available.

Hth.

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On Nov 26, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi,
 Can someone confirm that it is definitely not possible to download audio from 
 YouTube videos using MacTubes? I can play videos fine.
 I can't see any options for it in the programme, and I know YouTube clamped 
 down on converting its videos into mp3 a while ago.
 I thought I might be overlooking something. Thanks.
 
 Lisette
 
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Re: Mactubes

2012-11-26 Thread Cheryl Homiak
You're welcome! I love being unable to confirm bad news - lol! Enjoy!

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On Nov 27, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi Cheryl
 Wow, thanks for not confirming my worst fears. I just downloaded something. 
 Thanks for your help. I had tried to use vo shift m but not in the right 
 place.
 Cool. Thanks a million.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 27/11/2012, at 6:07 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, I can't confirm that because I am downloading using MacTubes right this 
 minute as I have been doing since I got this app. I do my search, start my 
 song playing, then do vokeys-shift-m on the player menu and arrow down to 
 download and choose my option; usually hd and mp4 are available.
 
 Hth.
 
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 On Nov 26, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Can someone confirm that it is definitely not possible to download audio 
 from YouTube videos using MacTubes? I can play videos fine.
 I can't see any options for it in the programme, and I know YouTube clamped 
 down on converting its videos into mp3 a while ago.
 I thought I might be overlooking something. Thanks.
 
 Lisette
 
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Re: Mactubes

2012-11-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak
No, it really doesn't have to be that complicated.

First of all, read the help tags for your buttons and label them.
Secondly, there is no need to put the url in unless you don't want to do a 
search. Just search and start playing. when you find the one you want to 
download, do vo-shift-m on the player menu button (I don't remember whether or 
not I had to label it but you can find out what it is using the help tags. In 
the menu will be a download option with options for your download format.

Hth.


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On Nov 27, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:

 It definitely *is* possible to download videos from MacTubes. It takes 
 fiddling, but it *is* doable.
 
 You have to put in the URL for the video and start it playing, Then you have 
 to find the first unlabeled button to the right of the playing video then hit 
 control-option-shift-m and arrow down till you hear download submenu then 
 hit right-arrow and arrow down to the video format you want. I tend to use 
 MP4.
 
 Then watch the slider to the right until it says 100% and the video will be 
 ownloaded.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Nov 26, 2012, at 11:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Can someone confirm that it is definitely not possible to download audio 
 from YouTube videos using MacTubes? I can play videos fine.
 I can't see any options for it in the programme, and I know YouTube clamped 
 down on converting its videos into mp3 a while ago.
 I thought I might be overlooking something. Thanks.
 
 Lisette
 
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backing up files from my Mac to dvds

2012-11-28 Thread Cheryl Homiak
It has been quite a while since i did backups to dvd of a lot of my media files 
and also various document files so I have decided to do a complete new set. In 
the past I have kept the text and document files separate from the media files 
and have figured out which files can fit for each dvd and then I have run the 
burn. None of these files are in iTunes. I want to know if there is either a 
way on the Mac or an accessible program I can get to automate this process as 
far as filling up dvds. In other words, I'd like to be able to pick out the 
folders and files I want to burn and then I'd like to be able to start the burn 
and have the first dvd fill up and then be told to insert another dvd to 
continue instead of having to figure out the logistics of each dvd myself. Is 
there a way to do this?

Thanks.

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Re: backing up files from my Mac to dvds

2012-11-28 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Thanks much.

Actually I'm doing Time Machine and superduper though I'm a little leery of 
Time Machine now because last time i wanted to restore it cranked away for a 
few hours and then announced it couldn't restore from that backup. But I'd also 
like some backups that are something other than external drives. I know iTunes 
will spread a playlist over multiple cds but I'm not so sure about what happens 
if you try this from finder. But you are right: I can find out for the price of 
one lone dvd.

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On Nov 28, 2012, at 10:33 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 So if you have everything you want to burn in a folder, what happens if you 
 pick that folder and then choose Burn To Disk from the file menu? It's been a 
 long time since I used CDs or DVDs for backups but I vaguely recall that it 
 would spread what you've got over multiple disks. Worth a shot. At worst you 
 waste one piece of media finding out. If you're interested there are unixy 
 ways to compress everything into one big file and then split it into chunks 
 that fit whatever size media you are using. At some point though your time 
 might be more valuable than the cost of media and you should just do time 
 machine to some external storage. I found an external USB 500GB drive here 
 for $50:
 
 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/836243-REG/Hitachi_0S03452_500GB_Touro_Mobile_USB.html
 
 That starts encroaching on the media cost of a few spindles of DVDs, not to 
 mention avoiding a lot of hassle.
 
 CB
 
 On 11/28/12 11:19 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
 It has been quite a while since i did backups to dvd of a lot of my media 
 files and also various document files so I have decided to do a complete new 
 set. In the past I have kept the text and document files separate from the 
 media files and have figured out which files can fit for each dvd and then I 
 have run the burn. None of these files are in iTunes. I want to know if 
 there is either a way on the Mac or an accessible program I can get to 
 automate this process as far as filling up dvds. In other words, I'd like to 
 be able to pick out the folders and files I want to burn and then I'd like 
 to be able to start the burn and have the first dvd fill up and then be told 
 to insert another dvd to continue instead of having to figure out the 
 logistics of each dvd myself. Is there a way to do this?
 
 Thanks.
 
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 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
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Re: Nook accessibility is coming for the mac

2012-11-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Oh, that will be wonderful! I will be looking forward to this!

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On Nov 29, 2012, at 11:32 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just had a nice exchange with the lead for the Barnes and Noble 
 accessibility team. I suppose most people on this list know that the Nook app 
 for ios is now wonderfully accessible with v/o. In response to a question, he 
 stated that they have plans to make Nook accessible on both Mac and pc, and 
 they plan to do it by using industry standard frameworks, so the customer and 
 use the application as she/he chooses. Are you listening Amazon? No, probably 
 not.
 
 Mary
 
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Re: itunes 11 is out

2012-11-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well, you could always play directly from the finder but if I understandit 
correctly that added them to your library. You play files from the finder by 
doing vo-space on them and if they are a type of file that is set to play in 
iTunes by default, they will play. The same is true with other players. For 
instance, I have several file types set to play in vlc by default so when I do 
vo-space on those files in finder, the files play in vlc.


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On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:

 Well, you see, I had a problem.  Every single time I tried to add files to my 
 last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), 
 ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files 
 themselves to the Library.
 
 What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11?  Is this 
 possible?  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
 
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating 
 around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used 
 to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the 
 Mac.
 As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure 
 why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the 
 files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, 
 therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose.
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
  
 What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've 
 seen so far?
  
 I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as 
 library dependant as the other versions have been.  IF so, it will mean 
 that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if 
 this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two 
 copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes 
 library.  I'd really rather not do that.
  
 Clutters up drive space.
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
  
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of
 things.
 Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
 
 I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily.
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned
 store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan
 to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo.
 Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs!
 
 
 Mary
 
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Re: itunes 11 is out

2012-11-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well, if you really don't want to use iTunes, set your files to play in 
something else. Most of my files play in vlc by default so they only play in 
iTunes if I want them to do that on purpose. Most of the files in my iTunes 
library are ones I purchased from iTunes. it is not really that I don't like 
iTunes; it's that I had a bunch of music I ripped before iTunes was even an 
idea in the back of my mind and so iTunes either doesn't identify them 
correctly or assigns tracks incorrectly or leaves the track blank which means 
your albums will play in alphabetical order of the song names usually. I 
haven't time to straighten this out so I primarily use vlc which doesn't mess 
with my files. If I still had all the cds I ripped and gave away, I'd have a 
fantastic iTunes library and I'd probably like it.

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On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:

 Ah, of course.  But, suppose you don't want to use the ITunes library?  
 that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
 
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi.
 iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only allows you to 
 cue up songs in the library though.
 
 On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:
 
 Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder 
 and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file.  I know that, 
 ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
 
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do 
 that.
 Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to 
 read with jaws when you show it.
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
  
 Well, you see, I had a problem.  Every single time I tried to add files to 
 my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS 
 reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted 
 to add the files themselves to the Library.
  
 What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11?  Is this 
 possible?  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
  
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to 
 navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around 
 than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it 
 primarily on the Mac.
 As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure 
 why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the 
 files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, 
 therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose.
  
 From: 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
  
 What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what 
 you've seen so far?
  
 I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as 
 library dependant as the other versions have been.  IF so, it will mean 
 that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and 
 if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have 
 two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my 
 ITunes library.  I'd really rather not do that.
  
 Clutters up drive space.
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
  
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of
 things.
 Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
 
 I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily.
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned
 store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan
 to until my husband puts 

Re: itunes 11 is out

2012-11-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
That sounds nice! Of course you could sort of do that with playlists but I 
realize that isn't really the same thing as queueing up what you want on the 
fly.

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh. You can’t do that, but they do offer something called up next, where you 
 can queue up songs through iTunes to be played right after each other, 
 without having to search your entire library.
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfRay Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:57 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
  
 Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder 
 and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file.  I know that, ITunes 
 has never allowed files to be play in that way.
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
  
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do 
 that.
 Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to 
 read with jaws when you show it.
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
 On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
  
 Well, you see, I had a problem.  Every single time I tried to add files to my 
 last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), 
 ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files 
 themselves to the Library.
  
 What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11?  Is this 
 possible?  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
  
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating 
 around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used 
 to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac.
 As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why 
 you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files 
 in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore 
 freeing up that drive space you say you lose.
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
 On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
  
 What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've 
 seen so far?
  
 I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as 
 library dependant as the other versions have been.  IF so, it will mean that, 
 when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this 
 collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies 
 of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes 
 library.  I'd really rather not do that.
  
 Clutters up drive space.
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
  
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of
 things.
 Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
 
 I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily.
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned
 store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan
 to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo.
 Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs!
 
 
 
 
 Mary
 
 Mary Otten
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Re: itunes 11 is out

2012-11-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I guess I never thought of it as not intuitive. I guess intuitive or not 
depends partly on what you are expecting. Probably if it was changed now to 
what you consider intuitive, I'd pull my hair out for the first ten minutes or 
so and then I'd eventually forget the switch and come to say that was intuitive.


-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote:

 i am just being picky as web accessibility is my field.  I agree it does not 
 cause any major problems, but it could be made so much better and more 
 intuitive.
 Guess I am going to have to write to the usual Apple departments.
 On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:31, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hmm, I’ll have to have someone look at it with me when I get the chance. 
 From what I can tell, VoiceOver moves the way it needs to move, but I could 
 be wrong. I’ve never had any difficulty finding what I want in the store.
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:27 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
  
 Yes the store uses headings, there are heading 3 and 5, no heading 1 and 2s 
 etc..  The structure is all wrong.
  
 It could be organised much better.  On screen everything sits where it 
 should, but voiceover moves from left to right and the store is actually 
 organised from top to bottom in columns.  
 On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:19, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Um…the store uses headings, quite well actually. I have no problems.
  
 From: 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Chris Moore
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:18 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
  
 Have you not heard of playlists?
  
 Also, you can unstick files when listening to playlists or albums etc, the 
 songs which are not ticked will be skipped and iTunes will then start 
 playing the next song/podcast etc it comes across within the list which is 
 ticked.
  
 iTunes 11 also has a new feature to add songs to play next too.
  
 iTunes 11 also now supports the standard Mac OS X keyboard shortcut (command 
 + F) to find/search. (this shortcut previously placed iTunes in full screen 
 mode).
  
 I still think the iTunes store is a complete mess.  Does not even follow 
 standard w3c accessibility guidelines for heading structure.  I am sure 
 visually it probably looks better, but to a screen reader it is still a bit 
 of a mess on that home screen.
  
 To be honest, I still prefer iTunes 10, but am sure 11 will grow on me.
  
 Chris 
 On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:56, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:
 
 
 
 Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder 
 and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file.  I know that, ITunes 
 has never allowed files to be play in that way.
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
  
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do 
 that.
 Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to 
 read with jaws when you show it.
  
 From: 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
  
 Well, you see, I had a problem.  Every single time I tried to add files to 
 my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS 
 reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to 
 add the files themselves to the Library.
  
 What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11?  Is this 
 possible?  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
  
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating 
 around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used 
 to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the 
 Mac.
 As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure 
 why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the 
 files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, 
 therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose.
  
 From: 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
  
 What are the primary differences we can 

Re: itunes 11 is out

2012-11-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
First of all, we are trying to help each other and none of us has any idea what 
the rest of us know and don't know so you are always going to get some advice 
you've already tried. secondly, if it doesn't work, one of two things is true 
(1) you haven't figured out how to implement it; or (2) it's a bug of some kind 
and you can google or in other ways check whether it's been reported and if not 
you can report it. If it's truly a bug and you've reported it, you've done all 
you can except that you may also be able to search and find workarounds from 
people who have encountered the same nasty bug.

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:

 I know all that.  I tried all that too.  It ain't a matter of my not knowing; 
 rather, it's a matter of it's not working right.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
 
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Go to iTunes preferences.
 
 Then go to advance in the toolbar and you have two options to play with.
 
 1. Keep iTunes media folder organised (this is checked by default).
 
 2. Copy files to iTunes media folder when adding to library (this is checked 
 by default).
 
 Untick these options, and it should then give you what you want.
 
 On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:19, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Um…the store uses headings, quite well actually. I have no problems.
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:18 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
  
 Have you not heard of playlists?
  
 Also, you can unstick files when listening to playlists or albums etc, the 
 songs which are not ticked will be skipped and iTunes will then start 
 playing the next song/podcast etc it comes across within the list which is 
 ticked.
  
 iTunes 11 also has a new feature to add songs to play next too.
  
 iTunes 11 also now supports the standard Mac OS X keyboard shortcut 
 (command + F) to find/search. (this shortcut previously placed iTunes in 
 full screen mode).
  
 I still think the iTunes store is a complete mess.  Does not even follow 
 standard w3c accessibility guidelines for heading structure.  I am sure 
 visually it probably looks better, but to a screen reader it is still a bit 
 of a mess on that home screen.
  
 To be honest, I still prefer iTunes 10, but am sure 11 will grow on me.
  
 Chris 
 On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:56, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:
 
 
 Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder 
 and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file.  I know that, 
 ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way.
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
  
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do 
 that.
 Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to 
 read with jaws when you show it.
  
 From: 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
  
 Well, you see, I had a problem.  Every single time I tried to add files to 
 my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS 
 reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to 
 add the files themselves to the Library.
  
 What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11?  Is this 
 possible?  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
  
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating 
 around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used 
 to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the 
 Mac.
 As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure 
 why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the 
 files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, 
 therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose.
  
 From: 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
  
 What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what 
 you've seen so far?
  
 I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as 
 library dependant as 

fixing music tags for iTunes: was: itunes 11 is out

2012-11-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I'd like some referrals on apps to fix tags. Most of what I have heard of 
requires one to do a lot of information input which is just what I don't really 
have the time for but if there's something out there I haven't tried, I'd be 
interested.

Thanks.

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.
 I think he means within the library it's self.
 What I think might be the issue is the tagging of songs. If they aren't 
 tagged correctly, iTunes won't sort them correctly.
 There are apps you can purchase that'll fix tagging if you want.
 HTH,
 Matthew Campbell.
 
 On 2012-11-29, at 3:25 PM, Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Go to iTunes preferences.
 
 Then go to advance in the toolbar and you have two options to play with.
 
 1. Keep iTunes media folder organised (this is checked by default).
 
 2. Copy files to iTunes media folder when adding to library (this is checked 
 by default).
 
 Untick these options, and it should then give you what you want.
 
 On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:19, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Um…the store uses headings, quite well actually. I have no problems.
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:18 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
  
 Have you not heard of playlists?
  
 Also, you can unstick files when listening to playlists or albums etc, the 
 songs which are not ticked will be skipped and iTunes will then start 
 playing the next song/podcast etc it comes across within the list which is 
 ticked.
  
 iTunes 11 also has a new feature to add songs to play next too.
  
 iTunes 11 also now supports the standard Mac OS X keyboard shortcut 
 (command + F) to find/search. (this shortcut previously placed iTunes in 
 full screen mode).
  
 I still think the iTunes store is a complete mess.  Does not even follow 
 standard w3c accessibility guidelines for heading structure.  I am sure 
 visually it probably looks better, but to a screen reader it is still a bit 
 of a mess on that home screen.
  
 To be honest, I still prefer iTunes 10, but am sure 11 will grow on me.
  
 Chris 
 On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:56, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:
 
 
 Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder 
 and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file.  I know that, 
 ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way.
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
  
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do 
 that.
 Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to 
 read with jaws when you show it.
  
 From: 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
  
 Well, you see, I had a problem.  Every single time I tried to add files to 
 my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS 
 reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to 
 add the files themselves to the Library.
  
 What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11?  Is this 
 possible?  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
  
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating 
 around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used 
 to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the 
 Mac.
 As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure 
 why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the 
 files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, 
 therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose.
  
 From: 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
  
 What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what 
 you've seen so far?
  
 I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as 
 library dependant as the other versions have been.  IF so, it will mean 
 that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and 
 if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have 
 two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my 
 ITunes 

Re: Moving a Folder in Mac Mail

2012-11-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I wonder why people have to do such different things to get this to work. For 
instance, the new drag and drop usually works for me in mail now but I have a 
friend who got it to work once and never again. There has to be some reason why 
some people have to use full screen mode and some don't and some have to use 
the old drag and drop and some don't or for that matter why one method sometime 
work for any given person but sometimes doesn't. It's nice to have all these 
options but it would be nice if one could predict accurately what would work in 
various situations. There has to be some kind of rhyme or reason to it.

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Nov 29, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Teresa,
 Thanks for the full-screen mode tip. That did the trick. It also seems to 
 work better in classic than modern view but i am going to go back to modern 
 view and see what the results are like now that i am getting success. And, 
 yes, it was the old 5-key mouse-down command that made it work as well. 
 Thanks again.
 Marc
 
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi, Marc,
 
 Drag and drop seems to get much better results when using full-screen mode. 
 Did you try this? Also, you can use the old method for drag and drop, 
 VO-command-shift-space at the beginning and end of the operation.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
 
 We're made of star-stuff.--Carl Sagan
 
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 11:27 AM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Has anyone successfully done this with vo? Even if i am trying to do this 
 with contiguous folders, vo tells me that the original folder is no longer 
 available for dragging (using the vo-comma and vo-period commands). Thanks 
 for any help.
 Marc
 
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vlc: adding to media library

2012-11-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Does anybody know if there's a keyboard shortcut or accessible method for 
adding to the media library in vlc. I am sure it's enabled because the window 
comes up when I open vlc and I've apparently accidentally added a couple of 
songs to it but I have no idea when or how that happened. I have no problem 
making playlists but I can't figure out how to add to the media library 
intentionally. I googled and found one article but the description didn't seem 
to translate to what I could do with voiceover. It must be possible since I did 
it unknowingly.

Thanks for any tips.

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my rock and my Redeemer.
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Re: itunes 11 is out

2012-11-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I would almost be willing to bet there's a way to change that, maybe something 
in the view options but I can't check it out since I don't have any tv shows.

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:

 One thing I don't like about the new version, and perhaps there is a way to 
 change this, it groups your tv shows by season now, there's no way that I can 
 find to just get a list of all shows in a nice long list.
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you don’t want to use the library, then you’re out of luck. I personally 
 like the library.
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:06 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
 
 Ah, of course.  But, suppose you don't want to use the ITunes library?  
 that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
 
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 Hi.
 iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only allows you to 
 cue up songs in the library though.
 
 On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:
 
 
 Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder 
 and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file.  I know that, ITunes 
 has never allowed files to be play in that way.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
 
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do 
 that.
 Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to 
 read with jaws when you show it.
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
 
 Well, you see, I had a problem.  Every single time I tried to add files to 
 my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS 
 reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to 
 add the files themselves to the Library.
 
 What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11?  Is this 
 possible?  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
 
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating 
 around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used 
 to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the 
 Mac.
 As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure 
 why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the 
 files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, 
 therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose.
 
 From: 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
 
 What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've 
 seen so far?
 
 I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as 
 library dependant as the other versions have been.  IF so, it will mean 
 that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if 
 this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two 
 copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes 
 library.  I'd really rather not do that.
 
 Clutters up drive space.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
 
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of
 things.
 Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
 
 I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily.
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned
 store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan
 to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with 

Re: VO Hints

2012-11-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes. Open voiceover utility with vo-f8. In categories go to verbbosity. Hints 
is the fifth and last tab; select it with vo-space. There's a checkbox for 
speaking the instructions for the item in the voiceover cursor; there's a 
pop-up for handling items with help tags, and there's a table to set the delay 
before a hint is spoken. I'm not sure you need both the checkbox and the popup 
depending on what you need this for. The checkbox can be very annoying but is 
great when the prompt is needed. The popup is helpful but you can also get that 
information by doing vo-shift-h on items with help tags and then you can go 
ahead and label items by using vo-slash. In fact, I just labelled a checkbox in 
vlc. So you can play with things and see what helps you most.
-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Hi,
 Can someone remind me how to turn on vo hints?
 Thanks,
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Harry Hogue wrote:
 
 If you have VoiceOver hints turned on, and set it to the minimum delay, it 
 will say Preview the song, etc.
 
 HTH,
 
 Harry
 
 On nov 29, 2012, at 1:40 p.m., Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Not quite all buttons.  Go to the iTunes Store and select music from the 
 menu which appears before you actually get to the HTML area (really not 
 sure why these buttons have not been integrated directly into the HTML of 
 the iTunes store yet) and you should see a link for last week's top 40.  
 Open it, and then jump to the table of songs.  You will see in the first 
 column that every button is not labelled to preview/play the song.
 
 Told you, am picky.
 On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:10, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of
 things.
 Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
 
 I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily.
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned
 store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan
 to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo.
 Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs!
 
 Mary
 
 Mary Otten
 motte...@gmail.com
 
 
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