Re: [MBZ] millenials
You and Bill make me feel better. I think 67 Dan On Dec 16, 2013, at 11:40 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Scored 78, but had to look at the scale to find out what a millennial is . . . Yup, probably aliens here. On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Yea I think aliens took over wilt Sent from my iPhone On Dec 16, 2013, at 9:05 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: 29 Kleb got 29!! What an old coot! Wilton got 73 On 12/16/2013 6:05 PM, Mountain Man wrote: What scores do okiebenz readers get? http://www.pewresearch.org/quiz/how-millennial-are-you/ mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ever have a driveshaft snap in half?
This topic made me resurrect my vibration/wobble problem with my '87 300SDL. Ever since I bought this car, I have had this problem and 5 years later I still have it. I have replaced everything I can think of in the drive train and still have the shimmy. Although it seems a lot better than original, and it should be! Is there anything in the diferential that could cause this? Even had the rear half axles replaced. My latest effort, the mechanic made some adjustments to the torgue for the rear axles and suggested it may have a differential issue. Is there a possibility a previous car accident may have caused this? I am rather frustrated at this minor shimmy after putting all this money and effort into this, but it still shakes the steering wheel at speeds above 55mph, very smooth below this speed. parts addressed; rear sway bar links., rear axles, drive shaft balanced,all flex discs, s-support, rubber mounts, motor mounts,tires,wheel balances,rear springs, transmission output shaft bearing. The shake can be felt in the steering wheel, just like wheel balance. Starts around 55mph, slakens off around 60, then comes back about 65 and seems to come and go at all speeds above that. Was quite strong, but now a minor shake but still aggravating on a long trip. Tires all seem to be wearing evenly, no scalloping. The car is in such great shape I hate to change it, and would rather fix it than swap. Ralph '87 300SDL '85 300 CD On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:06 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: No, but I did replace a drive shaft in the '76 300D when the u-joint in the middle started making noises and was notchy. Didn't want it to break while driving ;-) On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My brother did. Last night. Driving back from a rental property in Worcester (Wustah). Pulling away from toll booth, most horrible scraping, grating noise I've ever heard come from a car. Took 8 hrs to get home between all the tow trucks. Some background: 89 300TE. He had front flex disk replaced a couple months ago. Mechanic said that shaft was rusted together in center and therefore couldn't be compressed enough to get new flex disk in. He had to undo motor mounts to push engine forward enough so that flex disc could fit. Guess he had it coming. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ever have a driveshaft snap in half?
Ralph, It has been my experience that drivetrain vibration manifests itself by vibration felt in the body, not steering. Has your mechanic checked the front suspension closely for things like worn control arm bushings, etc? I would equate any shimmy or vibrations in the steering to front suspension or steering geometry, not drive train issues. Dan On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: This topic made me resurrect my vibration/wobble problem with my '87 300SDL. Ever since I bought this car, I have had this problem and 5 years later I still have it. I have replaced everything I can think of in the drive train and still have the shimmy. Although it seems a lot better than original, and it should be! Is there anything in the diferential that could cause this? Even had the rear half axles replaced. My latest effort, the mechanic made some adjustments to the torgue for the rear axles and suggested it may have a differential issue. Is there a possibility a previous car accident may have caused this? I am rather frustrated at this minor shimmy after putting all this money and effort into this, but it still shakes the steering wheel at speeds above 55mph, very smooth below this speed. parts addressed; rear sway bar links., rear axles, drive shaft balanced,all flex discs, s-support, rubber mounts, motor mounts,tires,wheel balances,rear springs, transmission output shaft bearing. The shake can be felt in the steering wheel, just like wheel balance. Starts around 55mph, slakens off around 60, then comes back about 65 and seems to come and go at all speeds above that. Was quite strong, but now a minor shake but still aggravating on a long trip. Tires all seem to be wearing evenly, no scalloping. The car is in such great shape I hate to change it, and would rather fix it than swap. Ralph '87 300SDL '85 300 CD On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:06 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: No, but I did replace a drive shaft in the '76 300D when the u-joint in the middle started making noises and was notchy. Didn't want it to break while driving ;-) On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My brother did. Last night. Driving back from a rental property in Worcester (Wustah). Pulling away from toll booth, most horrible scraping, grating noise I've ever heard come from a car. Took 8 hrs to get home between all the tow trucks. Some background: 89 300TE. He had front flex disk replaced a couple months ago. Mechanic said that shaft was rusted together in center and therefore couldn't be compressed enough to get new flex disk in. He had to undo motor mounts to push engine forward enough so that flex disc could fit. Guess he had it coming. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weird brake problem
Dieselhead wrote: All four wheels, pretty much evenly. (by the heat test) I've had a parked car get rusty disks and lock onto the parking brake shoes, but that would only be the back brakes. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - Oz gun laws
Abraham Lincoln was a Republican who freed the blacks from slavery, Democrats did not like that. Henry Ford freed the mule, I'm not sure what his orientation was but he did not like Jews. The Dixiecrats did not support civil rights legislation but our very own Ol' Strom had his own civil (or uncivil I suppose) relationships with a black woman, and had a change of mind after admitting to Essie Mae. So political labels are somewhat fluid and sorta meaningless. --R On 12/17/13 1:29 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: not quite. the republicans had always been more aligned with business interests whereas the dems were more about the common man in the neighborhood these terms liberal and conservative are not particularly meaningful beyond just being polarizing TV sound bite jargon. the republican party today is dominated by a super radical bunch known the world over as neoliberals but are somehow in this country self classified as conservative but they seem not to fit into any sort of american conservative tradition. perpetual war, huge intrusive government giving welfare to all, dual loyalty between the USA and israel, etc -- none of this would have made any sense at all to robert taft or even barry goldwater. these people are not conservative in any american or european tradition. really, what conflict there is (mostly manufactured) is between what could be classed as progressive liberals and neoliberals, but not a conservative in teh bunch. such a person as a traditional conservative has no voice in america today. On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:14 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Weren't the alignments of the R's and D's reversed in the 1800's - with the republicans being liberal and the Democrats conservative? On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Actually, this is part of a much longer list. Ah, I found it: In 1863 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States. In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States, who later died from the wound. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ever have a driveshaft snap in half?
I had a wheel on my 78 MGB that could not be balanced. I even had an old timer (no offense) try to balance it while it was on the vehicle. He had this little wheel that spun the tire up to speed and he said the tire had too much wobble to balance it. I bought a new/used rim and all was well. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Dec 17, 2013, at 08:47 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: This topic made me resurrect my vibration/wobble problem with my '87 300SDL. Ever since I bought this car, I have had this problem and 5 years later I still have it. I have replaced everything I can think of in the drive train and still have the shimmy. Although it seems a lot better than original, and it should be! Is there anything in the diferential that could cause this? Even had the rear half axles replaced. My latest effort, the mechanic made some adjustments to the torgue for the rear axles and suggested it may have a differential issue. Is there a possibility a previous car accident may have caused this? I am rather frustrated at this minor shimmy after putting all this money and effort into this, but it still shakes the steering wheel at speeds above 55mph, very smooth below this speed. parts addressed; rear sway bar links., rear axles, drive shaft balanced,all flex discs, s-support, rubber mounts, motor mounts,tires,wheel balances,rear springs, transmission output shaft bearing. The shake can be felt in the steering wheel, just like wheel balance. Starts around 55mph, slakens off around 60, then comes back about 65 and seems to come and go at all speeds above that. Was quite strong, but now a minor shake but still aggravating on a long trip. Tires all seem to be wearing evenly, no scalloping. The car is in such great shape I hate to change it, and would rather fix it than swap. Ralph '87 300SDL '85 300 CD On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:06 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: No, but I did replace a drive shaft in the '76 300D when the u-joint in the middle started making noises and was notchy. Didn't want it to break while driving ;-) On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My brother did. Last night. Driving back from a rental property in Worcester (Wustah). Pulling away from toll booth, most horrible scraping, grating noise I've ever heard come from a car. Took 8 hrs to get home between all the tow trucks. Some background: 89 300TE. He had front flex disk replaced a couple months ago. Mechanic said that shaft was rusted together in center and therefore couldn't be compressed enough to get new flex disk in. He had to undo motor mounts to push engine forward enough so that flex disc could fit. Guess he had it coming. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ever have a driveshaft snap in half?
The shake can be felt in the steering wheel, just like wheel balance. Then I highly doubt that the problem is to be found in the rear of the car. Bent wheel? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: FYI - Oz gun laws
SOLUTION: It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns. _Exactly_! And to accomplish that, you can't have one either. Or so seems the rationale. Some of the more rabid AGD's I've spoken with seem to believe the mere presence of the things will make them go on a rampage, and so they shouldn't even exist. They don't trust themselves, and so don't trust you by extension. It's a bit OT, though. No amount of discussion, no matter how rational, has ever seemed to change anyone's mind on this point. A good home invasion seems to make Pro's, and a nice juicy tragedy involving innocents makes Con's, and that's about it. As a kid I remember watching some bad movie out of Canada, involving an entire night of terror with thugs trying to break their way into a house. Even then I thought: just get out the shotgun and end this problem. End of movie, thirty seconds in. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - Oz gun laws
Gary Hurst wrote: not quite. the republicans had always been more aligned with business interests whereas the dems were more about the common man in the neighborhood Depends on how far back you go. Lincoln was their first serious candidate for president. He wasn't an abolitionist, but his wife and the bulk of his Republican supporters were. Some other progressive ideas, like individual income tax, were proposed by the likes of the Socialist Labor Party and the Populist Party in the 1800s, with the Dems jumping on that bandwagon in 1894. It was a Republican President, William Howard Taft, who officially proposed the 16th Amendment, after the Dems made the income tax part of their 1908 election platform. these terms liberal and conservative are not particularly meaningful beyond just being polarizing TV sound bite jargon. the republican party today is dominated by a super radical bunch known the world over as neoliberals but are somehow in this country self classified as conservative but they seem not to fit into any sort of american conservative tradition. perpetual war, huge intrusive government giving welfare to all, dual loyalty between the USA and israel, etc -- none of this would have made any sense at all to robert taft or even barry goldwater. I've got to think the turning point was with FDR. That's when the Dems became the party of 'vote for us and we'll use the federal treasury to buy you stuff'. such a person as a traditional conservative has no voice in america today. When somebody giving voice to them actually lands in office (Justin Amash), the Republicans scramble to put up a Republican In Name Only to unseat him, while proclaiming that Amash has abandoned conservative values. In other words, Amash failed to vote special benefits for preferred business interests. http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/justin-amash-challenger-michigan-house-97971.html Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] millenials
Yeah, don't use it! 'Same for frickin' and freakin' -- much like trying to disguise a pig. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] millenials Did wilt the milt just say bassackward? What's next, a lesson from wilt on the proper use of th f-word? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 16, 2013, at 9:58 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Something seems bassackward here. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] millenials http://www.pewresearch.org/quiz/how-millennial-are-you/results/ Silent generation is a 4 millenial is 73 up according to them On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 21:05:06 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: 29 Kleb got 29!! What an old coot! Wilton got 73 On 12/16/2013 6:05 PM, Mountain Man wrote: What scores do okiebenz readers get? http://www.pewresearch.org/quiz/how-millennial-are-you/ So the higher the score, the more millenial you are? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] millenials
i got a 64. i'm nearly millennial. On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: What scores do okiebenz readers get? http://www.pewresearch.org/quiz/how-millennial-are-you/ mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] millenials
'Just ran through it again and got a 16. What the etc.? Musta read score wrong first time. 'Don't know of anything I answered differently You're right, Rick, I'm not perusing any career and don't plan on doing such - not pursuing any, either. ;) Wilt - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] millenials Nah. The questions are probably weighted and I can almost 100% assure you that Wilton cares very little about perusing a lucrative career :) Rick Sent from my iPhone On Dec 16, 2013, at 10:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Yea I think aliens took over wilt Sent from my iPhone On Dec 16, 2013, at 9:05 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: 29 Kleb got 29!! What an old coot! Wilton got 73 On 12/16/2013 6:05 PM, Mountain Man wrote: What scores do okiebenz readers get? http://www.pewresearch.org/quiz/how-millennial-are-you/ mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] removing Bleed Valves
Ah, now we can all again enjoy witty banter about Frods, Dogdes, and Toadas. Alex Since these posts live on forever on albore's internet, the misspelling insures the post won't show up to some schmuck looking for toada info, for example. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ever have a driveshaft snap in half?
Ralph Robertson wrote: still shakes the steering wheel at speeds above 55mph, very smooth below this speed. Could be a loose wheel bearing, steering component, or front suspension component. But first, swap the front and rear wheels and see what happens. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ever have a driveshaft snap in half?
One thing I neglected to mention in previous message; when the mechanic was doing his latest check, he had the car rear wheels jacked up and then put in gear and revved it up. The rear wheels could be seen moving slightly up and down and then he made some adjustments to the axle torque which he said would reduce the bounce. He also thought that this bounce could maybe be felt in the steering wheel as well. I had told him the axles were replaced and that is when he mentioned a differntial issue that would cause the axles to bounce slightly. Is this possible? I will explore further the front end issues mentioned below. Ralph On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Ralph Robertson wrote: still shakes the steering wheel at speeds above 55mph, very smooth below this speed. Could be a loose wheel bearing, steering component, or front suspension component. But first, swap the front and rear wheels and see what happens. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ever have a driveshaft snap in half? tuvy4uju
Ralph Robertson wrote: and that is when he mentioned a differntial issue that would cause the axles to bounce slightly. Is this possible? Any driveline issues should be felt throughout the car if felt through the steering wheel. If your shift bushings are snug, you should be able to feel them better through the shifter than through the steering. If your wheels are out of balance or out of round, it could explain the steering vibration and the rear wheel shake. You could always try switching wheels between the car that vibrates and the one that doesn't. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ever have a driveshaft snap in half?
Front shocks? On Dec 17, 2013, at 08:47 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: This topic made me resurrect my vibration/wobble problem with my '87 300SDL. Ever since I bought this car, I have had this problem and 5 years later I still have it. I have replaced everything I can think of in the drive train and still have the shimmy. Although it seems a lot better than original, and it should be! Is there anything in the diferential that could cause this? Even had the rear half axles replaced. My latest effort, the mechanic made some adjustments to the torgue for the rear axles and suggested it may have a differential issue. Is there a possibility a previous car accident may have caused this? I am rather frustrated at this minor shimmy after putting all this money and effort into this, but it still shakes the steering wheel at speeds above 55mph, very smooth below this speed. parts addressed; rear sway bar links., rear axles, drive shaft balanced,all flex discs, s-support, rubber mounts, motor mounts,tires,wheel balances,rear springs, transmission output shaft bearing. The shake can be felt in the steering wheel, just like wheel balance. Starts around 55mph, slakens off around 60, then comes back about 65 and seems to come and go at all speeds above that. Was quite strong, but now a minor shake but still aggravating on a long trip. Tires all seem to be wearing evenly, no scalloping. The car is in such great shape I hate to change it, and would rather fix it than swap. Ralph '87 300SDL '85 300 CD On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:06 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: No, but I did replace a drive shaft in the '76 300D when the u-joint in the middle started making noises and was notchy. Didn't want it to break while driving ;-) On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My brother did. Last night. Driving back from a rental property in Worcester (Wustah). Pulling away from toll booth, most horrible scraping, grating noise I've ever heard come from a car. Took 8 hrs to get home between all the tow trucks. Some background: 89 300TE. He had front flex disk replaced a couple months ago. Mechanic said that shaft was rusted together in center and therefore couldn't be compressed enough to get new flex disk in. He had to undo motor mounts to push engine forward enough so that flex disc could fit. Guess he had it coming. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] vibes (was: Re: Ever have a driveshaft snap in half?)
tires can be out of round and/or out of true and still be balanced. these perfectly balanced tires will still give you vibes. (i once bought 5 wheels and tires off of a friends new J**p just to get the wheels, only to find that only 2 of the brand-new original low-end Goodyears on them were round and true; there was no way to put any 4 of those on the ground without getting shimmy, shakes and/or vibes.) what kind of tires did you have on there when this was first noticed? and what kind of tires do you have on there now? sounds like you already know you have at least one tire (on the rear) that's out of round; i'd suspect that since you feel the vibes in the steering wheel you also have one (or more) that's out of round and/or out of true on the front. get them up in the air and watch both the tires and the wheels while they spin to see i they even spin roundly and without any side-to-side wiggling. cheers! e On 17/Dec/13 05:47, Ralph Robertson wrote: This topic made me resurrect my vibration/wobble problem with my '87 300SDL. Ever since I bought this car, I have had this problem and 5 years later I still have it. I have replaced everything I can think of in the drive train and still have the shimmy. Although it seems a lot better than original, and it should be! Is there anything in the diferential that could cause this? Even had the rear half axles replaced. My latest effort, the mechanic made some adjustments to the torgue for the rear axles and suggested it may have a differential issue. Is there a possibility a previous car accident may have caused this? I am rather frustrated at this minor shimmy after putting all this money and effort into this, but it still shakes the steering wheel at speeds above 55mph, very smooth below this speed. parts addressed; rear sway bar links., rear axles, drive shaft balanced,all flex discs, s-support, rubber mounts, motor mounts,tires,wheel balances,rear springs, transmission output shaft bearing. The shake can be felt in the steering wheel, just like wheel balance. Starts around 55mph, slakens off around 60, then comes back about 65 and seems to come and go at all speeds above that. Was quite strong, but now a minor shake but still aggravating on a long trip. Tires all seem to be wearing evenly, no scalloping. The car is in such great shape I hate to change it, and would rather fix it than swap. Ralph '87 300SDL '85 300 CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ever have a driveshaft snap in half?
True:) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:44 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: blowout is a lot more exciting than your ordinary flat tire On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Back in the day, flat tires were a normal part of driving. With belted radials they are pretty rare and leaks are usually slow. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 4:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ever have a driveshaft snap in half? the only time i had a blowout was on tires i knew better than to use but some mechanic said they looked ok to him, so i went with it and had a blowout a few weeks later i'm pretty good with tires though. i'm actually quick to replace anything that gives me the slightest cause for worry. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] millenials
I'm not interested in a career now either, but then again, I quit reading the news paper when I moved to the country, and quit watching TV many years ago. I guess that makes me a millennial? Millennial = retired? On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:59 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Just ran through it again and got a 16. What the etc.? Musta read score wrong first time. 'Don't know of anything I answered differently You're right, Rick, I'm not perusing any career and don't plan on doing such - not pursuing any, either. ;) Wilt - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] millenials Nah. The questions are probably weighted and I can almost 100% assure you that Wilton cares very little about perusing a lucrative career :) Rick Sent from my iPhone On Dec 16, 2013, at 10:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Yea I think aliens took over wilt Sent from my iPhone On Dec 16, 2013, at 9:05 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: 29 Kleb got 29!! What an old coot! Wilton got 73 On 12/16/2013 6:05 PM, Mountain Man wrote: What scores do okiebenz readers get? http://www.pewresearch.org/quiz/how-millennial-are-you/ mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Glow plug relay
This morning in my 90 300D the glow plug light came on after i started the car, then it didn't come on when I tried to glow again. Happened 2 more times. Has been starting hard and running rough last couple cold weeks. Is that relay problem or time to do glow plugs after 200k+ miles? Thanks. Dwight 90 300D 82 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] millenials
Depends on which millennium I got a 26, don't know what that means --R On 12/17/13 12:55 PM, OK Don wrote: I'm not interested in a career now either, but then again, I quit reading the news paper when I moved to the country, and quit watching TV many years ago. I guess that makes me a millennial? Millennial = retired? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
Can it be a fuse if the light comes on? I recall diuscssioon that if the light comes on after starting it is one plug? On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You can check to see if the relay is working, just put a meter on a glow plug and see if it is being energized (or voltized I guess). But yeah, you might want to think about glow plugs too. And the fuse CHECK YOUR FUSES! --R On 12/17/13 1:11 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: This morning in my 90 300D the glow plug light came on after i started the car, then it didn't come on when I tried to glow again. Happened 2 more times. Has been starting hard and running rough last couple cold weeks. Is that relay problem or time to do glow plugs after 200k+ miles? Thanks. Dwight 90 300D 82 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay tuvy4uju
I do have block heater but only snow covered driveway for work space. . Good news is that temps not forecast to go below 25F for next two weeks so it will start. On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Dwight Giles wrote: Yes i am going to change them all. My father taught me not to change 1 spark plug or 1 belt. Have fun getting them out. Maybe soak them in Liquid Wrench or Kroil or acetone/ATF now and try to remove them this weekend. Got block heater? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay tuvy4uju
Dwight Giles wrote: I do have block heater but only snow covered driveway for work space. . All the more reason to give those things a daily soaking until you can remove them. Is this where Dr Booth recommended a Snap-On swivel socket? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
It is an OM602 in a 124. On Dec 17, 2013 3:42 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Since it is a what? OM603? Yes, 12 mm Deep swivel socket. I use a plain deep socket with a couple of the HF 1/4 wobble extensions. My pockets don't allow snappy to enter them. Easiest way is to remove th intake manifold. Order a manifold gasket with the plugs. A long 6mm balldriver allen socket helps a lot for this. I did break down and buy one of them form snappy as one OM603 i had the manifold was put on with a truck rattle wrench and locktite. Dwight Giles wrote: I do have block heater but only snow covered driveway for work space. . All the more reason to give those things a daily soaking until you can remove them. Is this where Dr Booth recommended a Snap-On swivel socket? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
Aye aye captain. AFAIK they are the original plugs at 230k. On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Dwight. Checketh thou the plugs that glow! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] Glow plug relay This morning in my 90 300D the glow plug light came on after i started the car, then it didn't come on when I tried to glow again. Happened 2 more times. Has been starting hard and running rough last couple cold weeks. Is that relay problem or time to do glow plugs after 200k+ miles? Thanks. Dwight 90 300D 82 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] millenials
means you suck On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Depends on which millennium I got a 26, don't know what that means --R On 12/17/13 12:55 PM, OK Don wrote: I'm not interested in a career now either, but then again, I quit reading the news paper when I moved to the country, and quit watching TV many years ago. I guess that makes me a millennial? Millennial = retired? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
my god! i used to change glow plugs every year or two On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote: Aye aye captain. AFAIK they are the original plugs at 230k. On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Dwight. Checketh thou the plugs that glow! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] Glow plug relay This morning in my 90 300D the glow plug light came on after i started the car, then it didn't come on when I tried to glow again. Happened 2 more times. Has been starting hard and running rough last couple cold weeks. Is that relay problem or time to do glow plugs after 200k+ miles? Thanks. Dwight 90 300D 82 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
Dwight. Checketh thou the plugs that glow! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] Glow plug relay This morning in my 90 300D the glow plug light came on after i started the car, then it didn't come on when I tried to glow again. Happened 2 more times. Has been starting hard and running rough last couple cold weeks. Is that relay problem or time to do glow plugs after 200k+ miles? Thanks. Dwight 90 300D 82 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
Since it is a what? OM603? Yes, 12 mm Deep swivel socket. I use a plain deep socket with a couple of the HF 1/4 wobble extensions. My pockets don't allow snappy to enter them. Easiest way is to remove th intake manifold. Order a manifold gasket with the plugs. A long 6mm balldriver allen socket helps a lot for this. I did break down and buy one of them form snappy as one OM603 i had the manifold was put on with a truck rattle wrench and locktite. Dwight Giles wrote: I do have block heater but only snow covered driveway for work space. . All the more reason to give those things a daily soaking until you can remove them. Is this where Dr Booth recommended a Snap-On swivel socket? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] millenials
there is actually a graph on the score that tells you roughly what it means the test essentially is claiming it can tell you rough age from how you answer these questions i score out very young because i am hep. the bigger the number, the younger and hepper you are On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: means you suck On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Depends on which millennium I got a 26, don't know what that means --R On 12/17/13 12:55 PM, OK Don wrote: I'm not interested in a career now either, but then again, I quit reading the news paper when I moved to the country, and quit watching TV many years ago. I guess that makes me a millennial? Millennial = retired? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
Ok thanks that is what I recalled. On Dec 17, 2013 1:56 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: 1 or 2 bad glow plugs. The light coming on after glow does indeed indicate a bad glow plug. no light indicates 2 or more bad GPs. Can it be a fuse if the light comes on? I recall diuscssioon that if the light comes on after starting it is one plug? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] millenials
According to their rating, I am a dinosaur. I scored a 4. I don't have a tatoo. I read the newspaper etc. I fell into the pre baby boomer group. It reminds me of a similar thing a few years back relating to vehicles. I was driving a Toyota 4Runner at the time and the test told me I was way to old to be driving a young person's vehicle. I thought that a bit odd. Randy On 17/12/2013 2:47 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: there is actually a graph on the score that tells you roughly what it means the test essentially is claiming it can tell you rough age from how you answer these questions i score out very young because i am hep. the bigger the number, the younger and hepper you are On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: means you suck On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Depends on which millennium I got a 26, don't know what that means --R On 12/17/13 12:55 PM, OK Don wrote: I'm not interested in a career now either, but then again, I quit reading the news paper when I moved to the country, and quit watching TV many years ago. I guess that makes me a millennial? Millennial = retired? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
1 or 2 bad glow plugs. The light coming on after glow does indeed indicate a bad glow plug. no light indicates 2 or more bad GPs. Can it be a fuse if the light comes on? I recall diuscssioon that if the light comes on after starting it is one plug? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
You can check to see if the relay is working, just put a meter on a glow plug and see if it is being energized (or voltized I guess). But yeah, you might want to think about glow plugs too. And the fuse CHECK YOUR FUSES! --R On 12/17/13 1:11 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: This morning in my 90 300D the glow plug light came on after i started the car, then it didn't come on when I tried to glow again. Happened 2 more times. Has been starting hard and running rough last couple cold weeks. Is that relay problem or time to do glow plugs after 200k+ miles? Thanks. Dwight 90 300D 82 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
Yes i am going to change them all. My father taught me not to change 1 spark plug or 1 belt. On Dec 17, 2013 2:36 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: my god! i used to change glow plugs every year or two On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Aye aye captain. AFAIK they are the original plugs at 230k. On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Dwight. Checketh thou the plugs that glow! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] Glow plug relay This morning in my 90 300D the glow plug light came on after i started the car, then it didn't come on when I tried to glow again. Happened 2 more times. Has been starting hard and running rough last couple cold weeks. Is that relay problem or time to do glow plugs after 200k+ miles? Thanks. Dwight 90 300D 82 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
On Dec 17, 2013 12:42 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Easiest way is to remove th intake manifold. It can be done on a 603 with the intake in place, but you need a full kit of 1/4 extensions and swivels, nerves of steel, and hands like a raccoon. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay tuvy4uju
Dwight Giles wrote: Yes i am going to change them all. My father taught me not to change 1 spark plug or 1 belt. Have fun getting them out. Maybe soak them in Liquid Wrench or Kroil or acetone/ATF now and try to remove them this weekend. Got block heater? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] millenials
I saw that but it still doesn't mean anything to me. Meanwhile you almost killed my buzz for getting my mini-split system running in the addition. I now have heat! I have had it all installed save for connecting the lines and charging the system, and was waiting to get my new power lines run, but then I got thinking I could take power off my temp pole box and run it to the system. The box is like those at RV camps apparently, 2-20A plugs and a 60A 220V plug. I bought a plug, had some heavy wire, bought a breaker box and put in a 30A breaker off that 60A line, then ran some line to the shutoff at the outdoor unit, disconnecting the wire from my new panel. It is kind of a bodge, but the inspector was by the other day and said it was OK for some temp temps. I had an HVAC guy come by to get it going (so I can get the warranty on the units), and now I have heat!!! No more propane heater to get it warmed up on cold mornings. I am so excited! LG 36k BTU mini-split heat pump with 4 head units (2-12k, 2-9k), I can barely tell the outdoor unit is running, the indoor units are mostly silent even at high fan speed. Awesome system. --R On 12/17/13 3:47 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: there is actually a graph on the score that tells you roughly what it means the test essentially is claiming it can tell you rough age from how you answer these questions i score out very young because i am hep. the bigger the number, the younger and hepper you are On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: means you suck On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Depends on which millennium I got a 26, don't know what that means --R On 12/17/13 12:55 PM, OK Don wrote: I'm not interested in a career now either, but then again, I quit reading the news paper when I moved to the country, and quit watching TV many years ago. I guess that makes me a millennial? Millennial = retired? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
And one of those long, thin, hypodermic needle-looking swivel thingies with the four little, spring-loaded grippers on the business end. Now, anybody have another, proper name for it? Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay On Dec 17, 2013 12:42 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Easiest way is to remove th intake manifold. It can be done on a 603 with the intake in place, but you need a full kit of 1/4 extensions and swivels, nerves of steel, and hands like a raccoon. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws
semi-autos are not 'outlaws', however you need to have a very good reason to own one. And no, needing a semi-auto in case the king of England decides to invade is not a good enough reason. Actually thinking about it, you have lot have gun restrictions, far as I know you can't own a full auto rifle there. Hendrik who can go pistol shooting if he so wishes On 17/12/13 04:43, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When I saw that oz outlaws semi auto rifles, that was enough for me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
Grabber. I use a telescoping magnet. And one of those long, thin, hypodermic needle-looking swivel thingies with the four little, spring-loaded grippers on the business end. Now, anybody have another, proper name for it? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
I have both. On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Grabber. I use a telescoping magnet. And one of those long, thin, hypodermic needle-looking swivel thingies with the four little, spring-loaded grippers on the business end. Now, anybody have another, proper name for it? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws
An individual in the US can own a full auto with a proper permit. An individual can also own a full auto without a proper permit, but that would be improper. Converting various semis to full auto is a relatively simple procedure with the (im)proper part. --R On 12/17/13 5:19 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: semi-autos are not 'outlaws', however you need to have a very good reason to own one. And no, needing a semi-auto in case the king of England decides to invade is not a good enough reason. Actually thinking about it, you have lot have gun restrictions, far as I know you can't own a full auto rifle there. Hendrik who can go pistol shooting if he so wishes On 17/12/13 04:43, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When I saw that oz outlaws semi auto rifles, that was enough for me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vibes (was: Re: Ever have a driveshaft snap in half?)
I had Michelin on the car when I bought it, and I changed to 4 new Michelin as part of numerous things trying to get rid of the shimmy. I also changed all the wheels and tires from my other M.B. with no effect. On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:26 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: tires can be out of round and/or out of true and still be balanced. these perfectly balanced tires will still give you vibes. (i once bought 5 wheels and tires off of a friends new J**p just to get the wheels, only to find that only 2 of the brand-new original low-end Goodyears on them were round and true; there was no way to put any 4 of those on the ground without getting shimmy, shakes and/or vibes.) what kind of tires did you have on there when this was first noticed? and what kind of tires do you have on there now? sounds like you already know you have at least one tire (on the rear) that's out of round; i'd suspect that since you feel the vibes in the steering wheel you also have one (or more) that's out of round and/or out of true on the front. get them up in the air and watch both the tires and the wheels while they spin to see i they even spin roundly and without any side-to-side wiggling. cheers! e On 17/Dec/13 05:47, Ralph Robertson wrote: This topic made me resurrect my vibration/wobble problem with my '87 300SDL. Ever since I bought this car, I have had this problem and 5 years later I still have it. I have replaced everything I can think of in the drive train and still have the shimmy. Although it seems a lot better than original, and it should be! Is there anything in the diferential that could cause this? Even had the rear half axles replaced. My latest effort, the mechanic made some adjustments to the torgue for the rear axles and suggested it may have a differential issue. Is there a possibility a previous car accident may have caused this? I am rather frustrated at this minor shimmy after putting all this money and effort into this, but it still shakes the steering wheel at speeds above 55mph, very smooth below this speed. parts addressed; rear sway bar links., rear axles, drive shaft balanced,all flex discs, s-support, rubber mounts, motor mounts,tires,wheel balances,rear springs, transmission output shaft bearing. The shake can be felt in the steering wheel, just like wheel balance. Starts around 55mph, slakens off around 60, then comes back about 65 and seems to come and go at all speeds above that. Was quite strong, but now a minor shake but still aggravating on a long trip. Tires all seem to be wearing evenly, no scalloping. The car is in such great shape I hate to change it, and would rather fix it than swap. Ralph '87 300SDL '85 300 CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:49:18 +1030 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: semi-autos are not 'outlaws', however you need to have a very good reason to own one. And no, needing a semi-auto in case the king of England decides to invade is not a good enough reason. Actually thinking about it, you have lot have gun restrictions, far as I know you can't own a full auto rifle there. Actually, one can in most States. One has to comply with Federal regulations. Some States, Washington being one, forbid such ownership. When my brother and I were cleaning up my father's estate in Oregon, he took me to a local store that had a firing range and that rented their Thompson sub-machine gun. We had a blast, but it was quite difficult being accurate firing more than two or three rounds at once. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws
you miss the point with full autos. most of them cannot be made legal so the small number of legals ones out there are VERY expensive. you can be licensed to have one by paying the $300 tax stamp but you can't own one you can legally use without spending big bucks On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: An individual in the US can own a full auto with a proper permit. An individual can also own a full auto without a proper permit, but that would be improper. Converting various semis to full auto is a relatively simple procedure with the (im)proper part. --R On 12/17/13 5:19 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: semi-autos are not 'outlaws', however you need to have a very good reason to own one. And no, needing a semi-auto in case the king of England decides to invade is not a good enough reason. Actually thinking about it, you have lot have gun restrictions, far as I know you can't own a full auto rifle there. Hendrik who can go pistol shooting if he so wishes On 17/12/13 04:43, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When I saw that oz outlaws semi auto rifles, that was enough for me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws
tommy guns are pretty easy to handle on full auto. they are heavy and shoot a relatively weak round for a long gun. i've always like AKs best though, with their vicious barrel rise. cut someone in half in a hurry On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:49:18 +1030 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: semi-autos are not 'outlaws', however you need to have a very good reason to own one. And no, needing a semi-auto in case the king of England decides to invade is not a good enough reason. Actually thinking about it, you have lot have gun restrictions, far as I know you can't own a full auto rifle there. Actually, one can in most States. One has to comply with Federal regulations. Some States, Washington being one, forbid such ownership. When my brother and I were cleaning up my father's estate in Oregon, he took me to a local store that had a firing range and that rented their Thompson sub-machine gun. We had a blast, but it was quite difficult being accurate firing more than two or three rounds at once. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws
I get the point but you miss the idea that someone might just own one that has, say, been in the family or something, for a long time. Legally of course. --R (not that I would have any specific knowledge of any such thing) On 12/17/13 6:18 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: you miss the point with full autos. most of them cannot be made legal so the small number of legals ones out there are VERY expensive. you can be licensed to have one by paying the $300 tax stamp but you can't own one you can legally use without spending big bucks On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: An individual in the US can own a full auto with a proper permit. An individual can also own a full auto without a proper permit, but that would be improper. Converting various semis to full auto is a relatively simple procedure with the (im)proper part. --R On 12/17/13 5:19 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: semi-autos are not 'outlaws', however you need to have a very good reason to own one. And no, needing a semi-auto in case the king of England decides to invade is not a good enough reason. Actually thinking about it, you have lot have gun restrictions, far as I know you can't own a full auto rifle there. Hendrik who can go pistol shooting if he so wishes On 17/12/13 04:43, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When I saw that oz outlaws semi auto rifles, that was enough for me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws
i've always wanted to unload with a BAR On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I get the point but you miss the idea that someone might just own one that has, say, been in the family or something, for a long time. Legally of course. --R (not that I would have any specific knowledge of any such thing) On 12/17/13 6:18 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: you miss the point with full autos. most of them cannot be made legal so the small number of legals ones out there are VERY expensive. you can be licensed to have one by paying the $300 tax stamp but you can't own one you can legally use without spending big bucks On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: An individual in the US can own a full auto with a proper permit. An individual can also own a full auto without a proper permit, but that would be improper. Converting various semis to full auto is a relatively simple procedure with the (im)proper part. --R On 12/17/13 5:19 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: semi-autos are not 'outlaws', however you need to have a very good reason to own one. And no, needing a semi-auto in case the king of England decides to invade is not a good enough reason. Actually thinking about it, you have lot have gun restrictions, far as I know you can't own a full auto rifle there. Hendrik who can go pistol shooting if he so wishes On 17/12/13 04:43, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When I saw that oz outlaws semi auto rifles, that was enough for me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
Yep, for when what you're trying to grab is not ferrous enough, and with my grabber, I can turn the glow plugs a bit to get 'em started on the threads - well, sometimes, anyway. Wilt - Original Message - From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay I have both. On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Grabber. I use a telescoping magnet. And one of those long, thin, hypodermic needle-looking swivel thingies with the four little, spring-loaded grippers on the business end. Now, anybody have another, proper name for it? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Holiday Story
With the holidays upon us, I would like to share a personal experience with my family friends about drinking and driving. As you may know some of us have been known to have brushes with the authorities from time to time on the way home after a social session out with friends. Well, three days ago I was out for an evening with friends and had several cocktails, followed by some rather nice red wine. Feeling jolly, I still had the sense to know that I may be over the limit. That's when I did something that I've never done before .. I took a cab home! Sure enough on the way home, there was a police road block but since it was a cab they waved it past. I arrived home safely without incident. This was a real relief and surprise because I had never driven a cab before. I don't even know where I got it and now that it's in my garage I don't know what to do with it!!! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Holiday Story
Good one. Sort of. On Dec 17, 2013 7:59 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: With the holidays upon us, I would like to share a personal experience with my family friends about drinking and driving. As you may know some of us have been known to have brushes with the authorities from time to time on the way home after a social session out with friends. Well, three days ago I was out for an evening with friends and had several cocktails, followed by some rather nice red wine. Feeling jolly, I still had the sense to know that I may be over the limit. That's when I did something that I've never done before .. I took a cab home! Sure enough on the way home, there was a police road block but since it was a cab they waved it past. I arrived home safely without incident. This was a real relief and surprise because I had never driven a cab before. I don't even know where I got it and now that it's in my garage I don't know what to do with it!!! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA8I5ADd4Mk This just so Hendrik can enjoy what another group I belong to does about 4 times a year. Every weapon you see in the video is FULL AUTO and FULLY LICENSED to private citizens. The cheapest entry into this ownership is in the $5,000 dollar range.. the price only goes up from there. There are a couple of quad 50's that cost about $6,000 a minute to shoot, just for the ammo. It's not for the Faint of Wallet but it is one heck of a lot of fun. As you will see demonstrated, ownership of fully automatic weapons is perfectly legal in USA. It is carefully controlled, expensive, and requires demonstrating you are responsible member of society however. Grant... On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i've always wanted to unload with a BAR On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I get the point but you miss the idea that someone might just own one that has, say, been in the family or something, for a long time. Legally of course. --R (not that I would have any specific knowledge of any such thing) On 12/17/13 6:18 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: you miss the point with full autos. most of them cannot be made legal so the small number of legals ones out there are VERY expensive. you can be licensed to have one by paying the $300 tax stamp but you can't own one you can legally use without spending big bucks On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: An individual in the US can own a full auto with a proper permit. An individual can also own a full auto without a proper permit, but that would be improper. Converting various semis to full auto is a relatively simple procedure with the (im)proper part. --R On 12/17/13 5:19 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: semi-autos are not 'outlaws', however you need to have a very good reason to own one. And no, needing a semi-auto in case the king of England decides to invade is not a good enough reason. Actually thinking about it, you have lot have gun restrictions, far as I know you can't own a full auto rifle there. Hendrik who can go pistol shooting if he so wishes On 17/12/13 04:43, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When I saw that oz outlaws semi auto rifles, that was enough for me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
Wilton,et al. One of those long, thin, hypodermic needle-looking swivel thingies with the four little, spring-loaded grippers on the business end. is the correct definition. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay And one of those long, thin, hypodermic needle-looking swivel thingies with the four little, spring-loaded grippers on the business end. Now, anybody have another, proper name for it? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okXKlLF2lh0 A few more minutes of entertainment for Hendrik and anyone interested Grant On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:52 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA8I5ADd4Mk This just so Hendrik can enjoy what another group I belong to does about 4 times a year. Every weapon you see in the video is FULL AUTO and FULLY LICENSED to private citizens. The cheapest entry into this ownership is in the $5,000 dollar range.. the price only goes up from there. There are a couple of quad 50's that cost about $6,000 a minute to shoot, just for the ammo. It's not for the Faint of Wallet but it is one heck of a lot of fun. As you will see demonstrated, ownership of fully automatic weapons is perfectly legal in USA. It is carefully controlled, expensive, and requires demonstrating you are responsible member of society however. Grant... On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i've always wanted to unload with a BAR On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I get the point but you miss the idea that someone might just own one that has, say, been in the family or something, for a long time. Legally of course. --R (not that I would have any specific knowledge of any such thing) On 12/17/13 6:18 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: you miss the point with full autos. most of them cannot be made legal so the small number of legals ones out there are VERY expensive. you can be licensed to have one by paying the $300 tax stamp but you can't own one you can legally use without spending big bucks On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: An individual in the US can own a full auto with a proper permit. An individual can also own a full auto without a proper permit, but that would be improper. Converting various semis to full auto is a relatively simple procedure with the (im)proper part. --R On 12/17/13 5:19 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: semi-autos are not 'outlaws', however you need to have a very good reason to own one. And no, needing a semi-auto in case the king of England decides to invade is not a good enough reason. Actually thinking about it, you have lot have gun restrictions, far as I know you can't own a full auto rifle there. Hendrik who can go pistol shooting if he so wishes On 17/12/13 04:43, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When I saw that oz outlaws semi auto rifles, that was enough for me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weird brake problem
Mine was the clutch MC though... -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:06:43 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird brake problem Message-ID: a06240803ced51b493d25@[192.168.1.52] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed That was the thought process that led me to the master cyl. Nothing changed or adjusted in the pedal or linkage to the Master between worky and no worky. But the symptoms are like when Curt had the too long rod, and brakes would not work right. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tire blowouts
According to Angie the Jetta is pretty rotten in the snow. She said it'd steer and stop good but she had a hard time getting it going. I had the Ranger because I was worried about getting home tonight (didn't, ensconced in a hotel) and although I'd suggested the 190D you can't tell her anything... Looks like I need to get another set of wheels and some snow tires. -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:39:36 -0500 From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tire blowouts [was: Re: Ever have a driveshaft snap in half?] Message-ID: cah-alp8rd_0jssjjeu8zvmdgdpfioz3vk-jykmdacr0rbtl...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In winter I run General Arctics on all 4 corners of 90 300D. Agressive tread, wear well but horribly noisy on bare road. They are on from Thanksgiving to end of March. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tire blowouts
Well I don't know about the Jetta but I do think Mercedes weight its distribution make a difference. My 3 123's 124 have all done well in snow regardless of tires. Where are you holed up in a motel? On Dec 17, 2013 9:08 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: According to Angie the Jetta is pretty rotten in the snow. She said it'd steer and stop good but she had a hard time getting it going. I had the Ranger because I was worried about getting home tonight (didn't, ensconced in a hotel) and although I'd suggested the 190D you can't tell her anything... Looks like I need to get another set of wheels and some snow tires. -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:39:36 -0500 From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tire blowouts [was: Re: Ever have a driveshaft snap inhalf?] Message-ID: cah-alp8rd_0jssjjeu8zvmdgdpfioz3vk-jykmdacr0rbtl...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In winter I run General Arctics on all 4 corners of 90 300D. Agressive tread, wear well but horribly noisy on bare road. They are on from Thanksgiving to end of March. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
WILTON wrote: Yep, for when what you're trying to grab is not ferrous enough, and with my grabber, I can turn the glow plugs a bit to get 'em started on the threads - well, sometimes, anyway. A piece of rubber hose works to start spark plugs. Should work for glow plugs too. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] millenials
29 which puts me to the Boomer side of GenX which is a bit off, I'm rather on the millenial side of GenX actual age-wise. Maybe I should get a tattoo. -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:27:46 -0800 From: clay redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] millenials Message-ID: 443f930b-96d3-4c2b-8807-397b4e4be...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I got XI clay On Dec 16, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Mountain Man wrote: What scores do okiebenz readers get? http://www.pewresearch.org/quiz/how-millennial-are-you/ mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] millenials
What like fudge? -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 22:30:59 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] millenials Message-ID: assp.306321fb38.517e3672-34a7-457d-b17d-9599240bf...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Did wilt the milt just say bassackward? What's next, a lesson from wilt on the proper use of th f-word? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ever have a driveshaft snap in half?
I can tell you from experience that loosing even 15# of air at 85MPH is pretty dammed exciting. Central and northern Maine are pretty barren and one time heading north in my Dakota I'm flying along in convoy with some other cars when the passenger rear tire decides to lose some air. The steering got vry sensitive all of a sudden. I came off throttle and coasted down to maybe 40 before I thought I was really in full control. Grabbed an offramp to a rest area and hit the restroom. By the time I got back the tire was noticeably sagging. Changed it and realized that a spare which has been on the truck for 4 years will be banana shaped. It took several miles at 20mph before the back of the truck stopped wagging... A tire shop a couple more miles down the highway pulled a big screw out of the bad tire before patching it. -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 00:44:31 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ever have a driveshaft snap in half? Message-ID: caciok3s-8dtkqyu8gcq0s9f6smssfuyxaet8wzbplcqvfjb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 blowout is a lot more exciting than your ordinary flat tire ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws
Grant wrote: A few more minutes of entertainment for Hendrik and anyone interested Craig - when you lived out there by Peyton, did you know Dragonman? Dragonman was the guy at the top of the hill on Hwy94 east of CSpgs, just east of the landfill and pick n pull. He did this type of gun thing from time to time. He would drive a rat patrol jeep after a car that was rigged to motor in a tight circle. The objective was to chase and shoot the car until it was killed/stopped. Dragonman had a front page writeup in WSJ in early '90's - interesting guy from NYC that moved to CSpgs. FBI would consult him. He died several years ago. He had a large gun shop out there in the moose pasture east of town. We were further east and then south at Drennan. Best water in the world was from 100 ft deep well in Black Squirrel alluvium. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws
Legal full autos are actually licensed not unlike a car. -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 17:59:56 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws Message-ID: 52b0d76c.7040...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed An individual in the US can own a full auto with a proper permit. An individual can also own a full auto without a proper permit, but that would be improper. Converting various semis to full auto is a relatively simple procedure with the (im)proper part. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws
Alluvium is a geologist's term. Are you of that ilk? On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Grant wrote: A few more minutes of entertainment for Hendrik and anyone interested Craig - when you lived out there by Peyton, did you know Dragonman? Dragonman was the guy at the top of the hill on Hwy94 east of CSpgs, just east of the landfill and pick n pull. He did this type of gun thing from time to time. He would drive a rat patrol jeep after a car that was rigged to motor in a tight circle. The objective was to chase and shoot the car until it was killed/stopped. Dragonman had a front page writeup in WSJ in early '90's - interesting guy from NYC that moved to CSpgs. FBI would consult him. He died several years ago. He had a large gun shop out there in the moose pasture east of town. We were further east and then south at Drennan. Best water in the world was from 100 ft deep well in Black Squirrel alluvium. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weird brake problem
Curt wrote: Mine was the clutch MC though... I had that problem. Solution was to get MC from dealer. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tire blowouts
Couple miles down the road from work. Had dinner with the big boss who is over here from the UK and I was going back and forth about trying to head home (its 56 miles) and he pointed out that the company would pay for it since I have a class in which makes me essential staff. So I figured discretion was the better part of valor and all that... I think the problem with the Jetta is just that theres so much torque on tap. The tires on it are decent although lower end all seasons. I drove the car yesterday and it was okay on the snowy side streets but not terrific. The 190D has snows on the rear (which I should fix this week) and handles much better although it needs some weight too. -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 21:28:01 -0500 From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tire blowouts Message-ID: cah-alp_zvmbsc8v6ngthj1x_qguqd3tglsr30d3itpz8byc...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well I don't know about the Jetta but I do think Mercedes weight its distribution make a difference. My 3 123's 124 have all done well in snow regardless of tires. Where are you holed up in a motel? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws
Andrew wrote: Alluvium is a geologist's term. Are you of that ilk? Out west, it is hard not to be of that ilk. But rather than geology, the issue was water and water rights. It was shown that water was a better investment than gold. The biz that paid bills when I was employed intended to use water that had already been used once, use it again as a resource to irrigate land and crops. Waste is a resource out of place. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] millenials
Curt wrote: What like fudge? Very nice f-word. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] food f-word
We bought caraway seed for bread. That is what the catalog said it was, but when we opened the package, it was black caraway seed, aka nigella sativa, or black seed. I guess Mohammad said black seed will cure anything but death. Very interesting. Does anyone know about this weird seed? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws
Actually thinking about it, you have lot have gun restrictions, far as I know you can't own a full auto rifle there. Not in Washington. Ten miles away, in Idaho, you can. However, a cannon is legal in WA, but not ID. Go figure. - Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] food f-word
Anise seed perhaps? On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.comwrote: We bought caraway seed for bread. That is what the catalog said it was, but when we opened the package, it was black caraway seed, aka nigella sativa, or black seed. I guess Mohammad said black seed will cure anything but death. Very interesting. Does anyone know about this weird seed? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] food f-word
It's the black seed seen often on artisan bread. Not caraway, probably has a nutty taste if I remember correctly. It's edible. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA8I5ADd4Mk This just so Hendrik can enjoy what another group I belong to does about 4 times a year. Every weapon you see in the video is FULL AUTO and FULLY LICENSED to private citizens. The cheapest entry into this ownership is in the $5,000 dollar range.. the price only goes up from there. There are a couple of quad 50's that cost about $6,000 a minute to shoot, just for the ammo. It's not for the Faint of Wallet but it is one heck of a lot of fun. As you will see demonstrated, ownership of fully automatic weapons is perfectly legal in USA. It is carefully controlled, expensive, and requires demonstrating you are responsible member of society however. Grant... I had a chance to put a full belt through a WW I water cooled BAR a few years ago, courtesy of Brownells. The belt cost $70. It was a blast. Those mormons figured out how to off people efficiently. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weird brake problem
That problem With the clutch, or with the brake? Curt wrote: Mine was the clutch MC though... I had that problem. Solution was to get MC from dealer. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws
On Dec 17, 2013 8:24 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I had a chance to put a full belt through a WW I water cooled BAR a few years ago, courtesy of Brownells. That wasn't a BAR--it's air-cooled and feeds from a box magazine. Maybe a Browning M1917? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
