Re: Netsurf versions
On 27 Jun 2023 Dave wrote: > In article , >Richard Porter wrote: >> On 26 Jun 2023 Chris Newman wrote: >>> If I use !Fetch_NS I get version Dev C1# 5433. >>> If I go through the Download latest NetSurf fro th browser itself I >>> get version Dev C1# 5415. >>> Would someone kindly explain? >> I use https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/ and that goes as far >> as 5414. I've just noticed that 5415 to 5433 are hidden away in clear >> sight at the top of the list. I'd never thought of looking there. >> Richard > Interesting... > On the list as displayed here by Netsurf, from the above noted URL, 5433 > is 30 items down the list, not at the top. Yes but 5415 to 5433 are, as a block, at the top. That leaves 5433 in the middle of the whole list. -- Richard Porter ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Netsurf versions
On 26 Jun 2023 Chris Newman wrote: > If I use !Fetch_NS I get version Dev C1# 5433. > If I go through the Download latest NetSurf fro th browser itself I get > version Dev C1# 5415. > Would someone kindly explain? I use https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/ and that goes as far as 5414. I've just noticed that 5415 to 5433 are hidden away in clear sight at the top of the list. I'd never thought of looking there. Richard -- Richard Porter https://www.minijem.plus.com t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com Sent from my ... if you really want to know look at the headers. ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Please test the latest build
On 3 Nov 2022 Michael Drake wrote: > Please could you test the latest builds (5377 or later) from: > https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/ RISC OS version loaded up! -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com Sent from my ... if you really want to know look at the headers. ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Online converters
On 1 Feb 2022 Rob Kendrick wrote: > A reminder to all: This mailing list is about NetSurf, and is not a > general RISC OS support group, and that my advice for opening docx files > and similar is to buy a computer that can run LibreOffice. I thought this thread was specifically to do with online converters that will run on NetSurf, which has more to do with the limitations of NetSurf than the converters themselves. -- Richard Porter ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Online converters
On 31 Jan 2022 Chris Newman wrote: > In article <59b2e89e73li...@torrens.org>, >Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: >> Has anyone found a file converter that will work with Netsurf? >> I am looking for docx to pdf. > Techwriter will do that on a RISC OS machine. I was going to suggest TW/EW but they don't keep the format particularly if you have text flowed around images, and it doesn't do automatic numbering of paragraphs, sections, chapters etc. -- Richard Porter ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Online converters
On 30 Jan 2022 Richard Porter wrote: > On 30 Jan 2022 Harriet Bazley wrote: >> I have this one bookmarked for XLSX to XLS, and it also seems to offer >> 'Word to PDF'. >> https://convertstandard.com/word2pdf.aspx >> Tested, and it works - with the proviso that the first time I tried to >> open the resulting PDF I was asked for a (non-existing) password, but it >> worked on the second attempt. > I tried this on two files. The first produced an XML file. I changed the > file type to MSexcel and !ViewXLS just produced a large grid with no > content. The other file produced no output at all. I tried again but with the same result - first time a blank grid, then after that no output, just a blink. I then tried XLSX to PDF and that was fine. -- Richard Porter ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Online converters
On 30 Jan 2022 Harriet Bazley wrote: > I have this one bookmarked for XLSX to XLS, and it also seems to offer > 'Word to PDF'. > https://convertstandard.com/word2pdf.aspx > Tested, and it works - with the proviso that the first time I tried to > open the resulting PDF I was asked for a (non-existing) password, but it > worked on the second attempt. I tried this on two files. The first produced an XML file. I changed the file type to MSexcel and !ViewXLS just produced a large grid with no content. The other file produced no output at all. -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com Sent from my User-Agent using my X-Editor. ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Website refusal
On 21 Feb 2021 Rien Mertens wrote: > GOOD websites don't ask to upgrade your browser but make a good > universal website, but almost no wesite builder takes the effort to do > so.. Except, of course, RISC OS users! Actually 'The Register' seems to work well. -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works. ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: "Warning from Netsurf: Unknown"
On 22 Oct 2019 David Pitt wrote: > It is on the bug tracker now. The example above is a very broken site, > neither Safari or Firefox get anywhere with it. I get the same response after a long wait. -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: "Warning from Netsurf: Unknown"
On 21 Oct 2019 Jim Nagel wrote: > I downloaded Netsurf #4874 today, replacing #4850. > Upon trying to load various websites I get a mysterious error message that > says only "Warning from Netsurf: Unknown". The status line at the bottom > of the Netsurf page also says "Unknown". > Example: http://www.dalsemi.com/datasheets/appindex.html > I would like to know what this means! I don't recall getting this message > in previous versions of Netsurf. But maybe it's just a bad day today. > Using ArmX6 with Ro 5.25 (Rcomp 2018-apr-25). I have been getting this with 4834 if not earlier. I don't think it's easily repeatable. -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Spurious "Couldn't resolve hostname"
On 6 Nov 2018 David Pitt wrote: > Richard Porter, on 6 Nov, wrote: >> Anyone else getting this? I've had it from one or two addresses, for >> example: http://www.natwest.com/global/customer-charter/g1/ideas-bank.ashx >> >> gives me the error "Couldn't resolve hostname" yet the host name appears >> to be OK. What's more if I delete the last element NetSurf does resolve >> the host name and gives me an expected 404 error. > That URL does not go too well on Safari, or Firefox, on a Mac. > "We can?t connect to the server at communities.natwest.com." > This works :- > https://www.natwest.com/global/customer-charter/g1/results.ashx Thanks. That's useful. I'll have a whinge at NatWest. Richard -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Spurious "Couldn't resolve hostname"
Anyone else getting this? I've had it from one or two addresses, for example: http://www.natwest.com/global/customer-charter/g1/ideas-bank.ashx gives me the error "Couldn't resolve hostname" yet the host name appears to be OK. What's more if I delete the last element NetSurf does resolve the host name and gives me an expected 404 error. -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Please try the latest build
On 16 Aug 2018 Brian wrote: > In article <43bd28b6-0a6b-80db-f112-a1e5a014f...@codethink.co.uk>, >Michael Drake wrote: >> On 15/08/18 21:33, Peter Young wrote: >>> Yes, I got one of those too. Why ask for a reply to a closed group to a >>> message to the general public? >> I simply sent the e-mail to two mailing lists, so that >> it would be seen by people who are only on one of them. >> Both are public, but you might not be subscribed to both. > Ah, is that what happened! 8-) It's best not to post to two or more lists at the same time. Unless the recipients have done their filtering carefully all the posts could end up in the first list to be found e.g. if they filter on "To:" rather than "List-ID:". Richard -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Missing images
On 9 Aug 2018 Tim Hill wrote: > In article , Richard Porter > wrote: >> Hi all, I've got a strange problem on one of my sites. On >> http://www.mmpa.org.uk/ all of the gif images are missing, including >> the yellow navigation buttons at the top. If you go to other pages the >> "home" and "News" buttons are present. > [Snip] > Whenever images don't show, I always suspect the Content option 'hide > advertisements' and you do have all those GIFs in a sub directory called > 'images'. Try the option off if it's on and if that works, use a more > cryptic directory name than 'images'. Thanks for all the replies. I've tried unticking "Hide advertisements" but it makes no difference. Yes, the gifs are in directory called "images". I suspect it's a cacheing problem. I'll see if it clears after 24 hours. Richard -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Missing images
On 9 Aug 2018 Richard Porter wrote: > On 9 Aug 2018 Richard Porter wrote: >> Hi all, I've got a strange problem on one of my sites. >> On http://www.mmpa.org.uk/ all of the gif images are missing, including >> the yellow navigation buttons at the top. If you go to other pages the >> "home" and "News" buttons are present. >> On Otter Browser and on other platforms all the images are present. >> Before I raise a bug report I'd like to know if other NetSurf users are >> seeing the same fault. There was a recent update to the news panel which >> increased it's size. This could have affected the rendering. > I've now got the same problem with http://www.minimarcos.org/ That one's now come back but the problem persists with MMPA. The MMPA site works fine when run from the local disc. Only GIFs go awol; PNGs and JPEGs are OK. -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Missing images
On 9 Aug 2018 Richard Porter wrote: > Hi all, I've got a strange problem on one of my sites. > On http://www.mmpa.org.uk/ all of the gif images are missing, including > the yellow navigation buttons at the top. If you go to other pages the > "home" and "News" buttons are present. > On Otter Browser and on other platforms all the images are present. > Before I raise a bug report I'd like to know if other NetSurf users are > seeing the same fault. There was a recent update to the news panel which > increased it's size. This could have affected the rendering. I've now got the same problem with http://www.minimarcos.org/ -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Missing images
Hi all, I've got a strange problem on one of my sites. On http://www.mmpa.org.uk/ all of the gif images are missing, including the yellow navigation buttons at the top. If you go to other pages the "home" and "News" buttons are present. On Otter Browser and on other platforms all the images are present. Before I raise a bug report I'd like to know if other NetSurf users are seeing the same fault. There was a recent update to the news panel which increased it's size. This could have affected the rendering. -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Page refresh
I'm finding that the reload tool isn't working. I update my web site and then check it but NetSurf won't show the changes. Refreshing the page doesn't work. I've tried different cache choices. If I quit NetSurf and then re-run it, it loads the new page. Has anyone got a solution before I raise a bug report? -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: launching a PDF from a link
On 28 Jun 2018 Jim Nagel wrote: > When you click the link for a Jpeg (or various other types of file), > the file opens immediately. Why does PDF behave differently? What is > the mechanism involved? I think that offering a save dialogue is the norm. Netsurf processes JPEG, GIF and PNG files itself, plus html and text of course, so there's no need to save them. > And why does the PDF link cause BOTH the download dialogue AND a blank > web page to appear? It doesn't unless there's a target="_new" argument or equivalent and you've got "Allow links to open in new windows" ticked in Choices > Content. BUT It's different if you click on an html link in Messenger Pro. In that case NetSurf always opens a new window and then decides what to do. I raised a feature request about this ages ago, but to no avail. Richard -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Image won't display
On 12 Jun 2018 Brian wrote: > In article <570702972bli...@torrens.org>, Richard Torrens (lists) > wrote: >> A very weird problem... >> The page http://stronged.torrens.org/man/modes/syntaxmodefile.html which >> I am writing. It has a line > alt="clicklist/png" width="653" height="104"> But Netsurf won't display >> the image. Chrome does it properly. >> But http://stronged.torrens.org/man/modes/img/clicklist.png displays the >> image! > Not here, I'm getting 404 - Not Found >> I am baffled. But it's coded as clklist.png not clicklist.png. -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: bad linebreaks
On 27 Apr 2018 Jim Nagel wrote: > Anybody concur with me? Yes I've raised bug reports about it in the past. -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: URL crashes Netsurf
On 13 Apr 2018 David Pitt wrote: > There is a log, which can be found after a restart. There is garbage at the > end of the log! My startup sequence includes running NetSuft which starts a fresh log file. It would be an improvement if NetSurf saved one previous version of the log. -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: URL crashes Netsurf
On 13 Apr 2018 Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > This URL > www.siemens-home.bsh-group.com/uk > causes Netsurf to totally crash on the ARMX6 with 5.23 (18-Feb-18). > The crash is total, no log file, Alt-Brk does nothing. Ctrl-Brk does do a > reset. > Does it happen to anyone else? I can get the first page but when I clicked on one of the images NetSurf aborted with a "serious error" and stiffed the machine. #4319 RO 5.23 -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: displaying a nested list
On 3 Mar 2018 Jim Nagel wrote: > Many designers seem to like using this feature for menus -- here's an > example: http://stjohns-glastonbury.org.uk > All three of the menu items here (About, Heritage, More...) are meant > to produce a dropdown of several sub-items. Ah, I see what you mean. I have the same problem on www.minimarcos.org . The drop down menus work on mainstream browsers but the tabs at the top lead to intermediate pages (whether or not the menus work. -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: displaying a nested list
On 3 Mar 2018 Jim Nagel wrote: > Any chance that Netsurf could be made to display a nested list, > please? It does, but it doesn't work if you have centered text because it centers all the items regardless of indent. If I want the list centered I put it in a little table on it's own. No doubt there's a CSS way to do it. -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: linking to root of website, not root of drive
On 19 Feb 2018 Jim Nagel wrote: > Is there a way around this? Is there some setting I would need to > make in Netsurf to define what I mean by "/" as root? (Presumably > there is such a setting in my ISP's software, for I am not being taken > to the root of their drive!) I have the same problem. I'm running WebJames with its root directory as the directory containing my web sites. That means that "/" on the local site takes me back to the top level and not the root of the site I want. Therefore all my links are relative if possible and links are explicit i.e. the index file is /index.html rather than /. The only places where relative links don't work are in error and acknowledgement pages which could be invoked from different levels of the hierarchy. These are addressed relative to the root i.e. /something and I put up with them not working on the local sites. The other exceptions are in mouseover stuff for drop-down menus where they're not going to work in NetSurf anyway, and in data files for scripts for the same reason. For html forms I use absolute addresses. I'm afraid that's just a workaround rather than a solution. I don't think your ISP's software comes into it unless your ISP is also your hosting company. Normally your web site will be loaded into public_html on the server and your ftp parameters should reflect this, so public_html is your root directory. I suppose you could push the site down a level to match your local setup and then have redirects for any links that go to the top level by default but I haven't tried this. -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Backyard Worlds
On 14 Feb 2018 Peter Slegg wrote: > Netsurf isn't able to open this link: > https://blog.backyardworlds.org/2018/02/14/we-love-you-and-happy-anniversary/ > It just says "Unable to fetch document" after ~20s. > In choices I have: > curl_fetch_timeout:180 Works here on #4303 (RO 5.23). Probably a DNS glitch or server down. -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: problem with Mailman or is it just me?
On 7 Nov 2017 Richard Porter wrote: > On 7 Nov 2017 Jim Nagel wrote: >> I wonder if a couple of others could try that link, please: try >> subscribing to the Netsurf list from a different valid address of your >> own. Do you get the same message as I did? What ISP are YOU using? > I'm getting "You must supply a valid email address" whether I supply a > valid forwarder address, an alternative mailbox on my PlusNet account > or a PlusNet alias for my normal address. I have subscribed to one of my Mailman lists on a domain hosted by eukhost.com using a forwarded email address and there was no problem. I was asked to confirm my request and my request was forwarded to the moderator for approval. It won't be! I think your problem must be caused by the spam filtering or DMARC policies of the service providers or hosts of the domains concerned - maybe list settings but I can't think of one that might have that effect. I run a number of Mailman lists and I haven't run into this problem but I normally subscribe members myself. The lists aren't publicly visible. The only really annoying thing is caused by AOL's DMARC policies which means messahes have to be sent as attachments to wrapper messages or the From address has to be munged so you can only reply to the list unless you edit the address. I think there are some issues with BT but not directly associated with the list. One member who uses a company domain name but appears to be connected via Virgin Media can't communicate with another member on btinternet. I suspect that has to do with reverse domain lookup as the company is based in Denmark. Richard -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: problem with Mailman or is it just me?
On 7 Nov 2017 Jim Nagel wrote: > I wonder if a couple of others could try that link, please: try > subscribing to the Netsurf list from a different valid address of your > own. Do you get the same message as I did? What ISP are YOU using? I'm getting "You must supply a valid email address" whether I supply a valid forwarder address, an alternative mailbox on my PlusNet account or a PlusNet alias for my normal address. -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Page causes crash
On 30 Oct 2017 Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > This may not be a Netsurf thing, but it happens rarely on anything other > than Nersurf. > The whole of this ARMX6's networking crashes. The only way I have found to > recover is a reset. > I have found a page which seems to cause this fairly reliably: > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/water-vole-hole.html > Does this happen to anyone else? > RO 5.23 (29-Jun-16) > NS 3.8 (Dev CI #4238) and earlier versions for some time. Seems to load ok here (ARMX6, 5.23, #4214) -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Page Refresh
I had a problem after updating a web page. NetSurf displayed the old version so I did a refresh but the first two images which were named the same as the previous ones were not reloaded. The third image which didn't have a predecessor loaded OK. So I then had to reload the first two images separately. Surely this shouldn't be the way it works? #4088 -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Redraw oddity
On 16 May 2017 Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > https://www.quora.com/Where-does-iPhoto-store-photos-locally > At first this displays a blank page. But wipe over it with another > window... > Does anyone else get the same behaviour? > 3.7 (Dev CI #4086) on ARMX6 5.23 > (29-Jun-16) Yes. (#4086, RPC 6.20) -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Window position
On 6 Apr 2017 I wrote: > It doesn't work like that. You can open a window in the default > position, close it and open another window. This gets staggered up or > down even if there's no window to stagger it from. I think I've now sussed it. With Stagger off and Copy on it does what I want. If a link is opened in a new window then the new window is vertically offset from the parent window, otherwise a new window that's opened from the icon bar or by double-clicking an html file opens in the default position. I can't see the point of 'Stagger window position' being on but it doesn't matter. -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Window position
After a bit of fiddling I got the default window position to where I want it - full width, just below the menu bar at the top and just above the icon bar at the bottom. I've ticked 'Stagger window position'. This is fine when you first run NetSurf but I would expect NetSurf to use the default position whenever the first window is opened regardless of what went before (i.e. no other windows are open). It doesn't work like that. You can open a window in the default position, close it and open another window. This gets staggered up or down even if there's no window to stagger it from. I feel a bug report coming on, although it's really only a design oversight. In the mean time I might be better off with 'stagger windows' disabled. -- Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: KYP West
On 22 Mar 2017 Tony Moore wrote: > On 22 Mar 2017, Brian <bbai...@argonet.co.uk> wrote: >> This looks to a really interesting site > URL? > Tony I would hazard a guess that it might be http://www.kypwest.org.uk/ -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Congratulations!
On 25 Feb 2017 John Williams wrote: > Congratulations to the NetSurf team for all the hard work it took to get to > #4000! Hear, hear! -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Making playlists play
I'm sure I raised a feature request for this a long time ago but I can't see it. Anyway, is it possible to get .m3u style playlists to play automatically on NetSurf? Oregano does this but with NS you have to save the playlist and then launch it. I have the following MimeMap entries for m3u: audio/m3u MPEGURL aa7 audio/x-mpegurlMPEGURL aa7 .m3u -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Web page magnification
On 2 Jan 2017 David H Wild wrote: > I am having problems reading because of a cataract which needs removing, > i find that I can read the screen fairly well if I increases the > magnification to 150%. Is there any way of telling NetSurf that this > is how I want all pages? Enter Ctrl-W on the keyboard. This sets the magnification to 150%. The magnification persists if you follow links including in a new window, but not if you open a new window from the icon bar. I can't see anything in Choices that sets the default magnification (perhaps a feature request would be in order) but increasing the default and minimum font sizes might be help. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Web page magnification
On 2 Jan 2017 Brian Jordan wrote: > In article <55f8413d86dhw...@talktalk.net>, >David H Wild <dhw...@talktalk.net> wrote: >> I am having problems reading because of a cataract which needs removing, >> i find that I can read the screen fairly well if I increases the >> magnification to 150%. Is there any way of telling NetSurf that this is >> how I want all pages? > when in Netsurf will bring up the "Scale view" dialogue; I imagine > you know this already but to make this the default you need to > over the NetSurf window and in the "Display" sub menu click on "Save as > default". Good luck! Yes it does. There is an entry in choices: Scale:150 . Ctrl-W is a quicker route to 150%. It's useful for enlarging photos on the screen (goes to 150 - 200 - 300% and more). Ctrl-Q reduces the magnification correspondingly. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 17 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > In article <96f819f055.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter > <r...@minijem.plus.com> wrote: >> On 17 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: >>> As you have a problem with both machines ... >> I didn't say that. I said that the behaviour was the same on both >> machines i.e. the page was working as intended and not showing duff >> gen on the ARMX6. > Not quite. > This was the post in question: >>>> Hmm. There seem to be problems with both ARMini and ARMx6. What >>>> could they have in common which differs from other platforms? >>> I'm puzzled because I'm getting the same behaviour on both ARMX6 and >>> RiscPC, as I would expect using the same version of NetSurf. Does it >>> contain any alternative paths depending on OS version or processor >>> type? > "the same behaviour" in reply to "there seem to be problems" I meant the same behaviour as each other, not the same _different_ behaviour. > Not confusing at all. > Good night. Good morning. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 17 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > As you have a problem with both machines ... I didn't say that. I said that the behaviour was the same on both machines i.e. the page was working as intended and not showing duff gen on the ARMX6. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 17 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > Hmm. There seem to be problems with both ARMini and ARMx6. What could > they have in common which differs from other platforms? I'm puzzled because I'm getting the same behaviour on both ARMX6 and RiscPC, as I would expect using the same version of NetSurf. Does it contain any alternative paths depending on OS version or processor type? -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 17 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > In article <4c8196ef55.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, >Richard Porter <r...@minijem.plus.com> wrote: >> On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: >>>>> http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/ >> I've run into a slight problem with the calendar. If you click a link >> associated with an event the page opens in the window in the middle of >> your page. There doesn't appear to be any way to get back to the >> calendar short of starting again. The back button doesn't help. > JHC. > Use when you click on a link. > I can't reprogramme Google Calendar. Granted, but you need to know in advance that you'll need to Adjust- click on any link off the calendar. Of course the root cause is that NetSurf doesn't save updates to iframes it its history. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 16 Dec 2016 Chris Young wrote: > On 16 December 2016 22:49:06 GMT+00:00, Richard Porter > <r...@minijem.plus.com> wrote: >>Have you got a test page that tells you if javascript is on or off >>e.g. Javascript is NOT enabled. ? > http://www.javatester.org/javascript.html > Chris Useful page. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: >>> http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/ I've run into a slight problem with the calendar. If you click a link associated with an event the page opens in the window in the middle of your page. There doesn't appear to be any way to get back to the calendar short of starting again. The back button doesn't help. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 16 Dec 2016 Brian Jordan wrote: > I have JavaScript enabled here as a matter of course (Choices--> > Content--> Not ticked, which appears to be the default setting. The > calendar display is incomplete with the message "You may need to disable > Javascript and reload this page" If I then disable JS and reload the page > the display area has a message "Your browser does not appear to support > JavaScript but this page needs to use JavaScript to display correctly. > You can visit the HTML-only version of this page at: > NetSurf #3803 is doing my head in, Boss. It's contradictory. When you open the page it says "Your Javascript ios disabled as it should be" at the top, then underneath Google calendar says "Your browser does not appear to support JavaScript but this page needs to use JavaScript to display correctly. ...". However if you follow the link the calendar display comes up. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 16 Dec 2016 Peter Young wrote: [ http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/ ] >>>> #3798 works as expected. >>> Works on #3803 here (6.20 RPC) >> Thanks. I'll assume 'user error'. > How? I can only report what I see! I call up the site, it tells me > that JavaScript is on, I turn it off, and the site still tells me that > it's still on. How could I have made an error that made that happen? > Is it something to do with the ARMX6, or with something else that I'm > running? I've just tried it on my ARMX6 (OS 5.23) and it works just the same. Have you got a test page that tells you if javascript is on or off e.g. Javascript is NOT enabled. ? -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: >>> http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/ >> Not working here, #3803. The site says that JavaScript is on, even >> though I've turned it off, quit NetSurf and tried to see the site >> again. > Must be a problem with that version. The message saying it is ON is > rendered with Javascript so how can it possibly be disabled? > You shouldn't need to quit, only reload after SETting that Content Choice > option. > #3798 works as expected. Works on #3803 here (6.20 RPC) -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Website not renendering correctly
On 25 Nov 2016 Chris Newman wrote: > Hi, > http://www.bapfish.org.uk/networking.htm > Which formally worked splendidly has now gone mammaries skyward. From at > least #3784 on it seems. > Still OK in the old Netsurf 3.5. > Has been confirmed by others. OK on 3783 except that the background colour doesn't go all the way down to the bottom. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: No-display page
On 24 Sep 2016 Richard Torrens (lists) wrote:
> http://www.petervis.com/Radios/sinclair-micromatic-pocket-radio/sincla
> ir-micromatic-pocket-radio.html
> Does not display. There is a lot of css at the start, then
> body { visibility: hidden;
> display:none }
> which kills it! But should this happen?
I removed the line
body { visibility: hidden;
display:none }
and it displayed the page.
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Re: Site crasher NS
On 20 Sep 2016 Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > http://nosher.net > Twice gives a window to accept certificate. On accepting second one, NS > dies. > 3.6 (Dev CI #3714) and a few prevous. Does thisa happen to others? Yes. NS just sits there apparently fetching but nothing happens. Both SSL windows remain. If you wipe any other window across an SSL window you get a trail of repeated frames across the text area of the window. When I then rejected one of the certificates NS aborted. (#3697) -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Segmentation fault started with no apparent cause
On 25 Aug 2016 Andrew Pinder wrote: > I've tracked the problem down to something in > Boot:^.!Boot.Choices.WWW.NetSurf.URL > Moving it elsewhere so it isn't accessible to NetSurf allows NetSurf > to load normally. Putting it back brings the problem back. > There appear to be 106 URLs in there. I'm not going to test each one > to find where the problem is. Just quit NS, delete the contents of URL and re-run NS. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: how to make Netsurf forget its logged-in state
On 17 May 2016 Harriet Bazley wrote: > On 12 May 2016 as I do recall, > Jim Nagel wrote: >> Harriet Bazley wrote on 12 May: >> Cache: Is there an easy way to clear the Netsurf cache? Where is it? >> > I don't know about 'easy'... > It's a directory in !Scrap: <Wimp$ScrapDir>.WWW.NetSurf.Cache > It can be deleted manually, which may or may not help. There's a nice little utility called !ShowScrap that opens the IDdisabled directory for you (then WWW > NetSurf > Cache as above). I keep it on my launcher (!MenuBar). -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Netsurf Cache -- relocation tangent
On 12 Apr 2016 Jim Nagel wrote: > Martin Avison wrote on 12 Apr: >> ... problems with the cache taking large amounts of disc >> space, and the resulting long backup times for !Boot ... > Several months ago I got fed up with this, and also with time wasted > by !Locate searching through all of !Cache. So on all my machines I > made a new directory that comes alphabetically last: $._ > !Cache and !Scrap and !Newsdir now live there, with appropriate > pointers in the old places. Works well. I exclude any cache directories from backups. Ditto ScrapDirs. Richard -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: JavaScript status indicator - request for a snippet of code
On 17 Feb 2016 John Rickman Iyonix wrote:
>> I suspect that what I require is very simple/trivial and can be done in one
>> line of JS.
> try this:
> document.write("javascript is enabled");
alternatively / additionally:
JS Off
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Re: Bug reporting
On 31 Jan 2016 lists wrote: > There is "My view|View issues|Change log|Roadmap" > NOWHERE ON THAT PAGE IS A BOX THAT SAYS REPORT BUG HERE! There should be a link "Report Issue" after "View issues". -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Very slow page rendering
On 9 Jan 2016 Dave Higton wrote: > In message <000a3379.01eff490b...@smtp.freeola.net> > Peter Slegg <p.sl...@scubadivers.co.uk> wrote: >> >>http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/tree/atari/gemtk/guiwin.c >> >>This page takes abut 20mins to download and render, Highwire browser >>takes about 6sec. > I just tried it with CI#3254 on an Iyonix. Took about 24 sec. > If you're not on a very recent CI build, I would recommend you get > one. Very slow rendering was fixed a couple of months ago. About 43s here on RPC with standard ADSL connection. CI#3250. Firefox on the macbook pro takes 2s over the same connection. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
BBC site gone mobile again
The BBC web site is delivering mobile-type layout again on NetSurf. Earlier versions are doing the same thing so I guess the site has changed. With javascript enabled the news section displays in vertical format (everything down the left-hand side) but the home page causes NS to loop or run extremely slowly (throbber stops rotating) - regex problem again? -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: simple html pages slow to render
On 7 Nov 2015 Chris Young wrote: > A missing file shouldn't cause a timeout though - just a response from > the server containing error 404. 404 is page not found. Other missing files like css should be ignored by the browser. In any case if the file didn't exist the server would respond with an error straight away. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: simple html pages slow to render
On 7 Nov 2015 Peter Young wrote: >> If you have any builds between these two it would help to pin it down >> to just a few potential culprit changes. > Not an answer to the question as asked, but with #3048 the page loads > in 0.2 seconds. I find that magazines take around 32s to display on my RiscPC using CI#3048. However if I do a full save they render from hard disc much more rapidly. I noticed that doing a full save did not save the CSS file so running the application still downloaded it from the server. I saved the CSS file locally and updated the link, whoch didn't make a lot of difference. Has 'full save' changed? It always used to save CSS files. This could be a serious problem because the page wouldn't render properly if the original file was no longer available. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: simple html pages slow to render
On 7 Nov 2015 David Pitt wrote: > 30s is an interesting duration NetSurf-wise, that is how long before > fetches time-out. From a look at the log :- This could explain why 'full save' didn't save the css files. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Bad type
I get an awful lot of "Bad type" errors when clicking on links. What does this mean? I guess it has something to do with javascript. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: How we can all assist NetSurf's development
On 13 Oct 2015 Dave Higton wrote: > You can semi-automate the process nicely with Fetch_NS, which is > abailable from http://aconet.org/tools/fetch-ns.zip Is there a version which stores a 4-digit.zip filename? -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: How we can all assist NetSurf's development
On 13 Oct 2015 Peter Young wrote: > On 13 Oct 2015 Richard Porter <r...@minijem.plus.com> wrote: >> On 13 Oct 2015 Dave Higton wrote: >>> You can semi-automate the process nicely with Fetch_NS, which is >>> abailable from http://aconet.org/tools/fetch-ns.zip >> Is there a version which stores a 4-digit.zip filename? > If I've understood the question, my last three NetSurf downloads, > using Fetch_NS are 2992/zip, 2989/zip and 2982/zip (bear in mind that > RISC OS uses / instead of Microsoft's .). So, it looks as if the > answer is "yes". > However, there are two versions of Fetch_NS, and the one I have is the > same as the one got from the above URL. Which version do you have? The version from the URL above is quite a bit different from the one I had. Where's the version number? Anyway this version starts to download the zip file but sets the file type to Text until it's complete. The previous version I had downloaded the file as DEADDEAD until complete but only used the last three digits of the NS version number in the file name i.e. "2994/zip" was stored as "994/zip". Richard -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: #2988 hanging
On 13 Oct 2015 Tim Hill wrote: >> Summary: Always try Alt-Break first (and the a clean shutdown >> straight after), and only Ctrl-Break/Hardware reset button as a last >> resort. > The ultimate last resort is to 'cycle the power switch' as sometimes > that's the only way out of the so-called 'pyjamas' screen on Iyonix and > other situations with a Pi. I know what you mean by the pyjamas screen. I've had it on my RiscPC but I've always put it down to the Vpod. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Google
On 9 May 2015 Harriet Bazley wrote: The only contact details I could find was tweeting @google - looks as if they do respond to individual mentions on Twitter, though it mostly seems to be people complaining about disappearing Google+ accounts. I got this link from a device alert after signing in on my Mac (I delete all cookies, cache, etc on quitting Firefox): https://support.google.com/accounts/contact/device_alert_feedback?hl=en. I gave them some 'feedback' but I haven't heard any more. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Google
On 9 May 2015 Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: The search script on my www site does work with JF off: Relevant bit is !-- Search Google -- PFORM method=GET action=http://www.google.com/custom TABLE bgcolor=#FF cellspacing=0 border=0 td INPUT TYPE=text name=q size=40 maxlength=255 value= INPUT type=submit name=sa VALUE=Google Search brinput type=radio name=sitesearch value= checked Search WWW /td/tr/TABLE /FORM !-- Search Google -- Save that as search/html, re-type is as faf (html) and use it Why only one radio button? The script I use to search a specific site is: td!-- SiteSearch Google -- form method=get action=http://www.google.com/search; input type=hidden name=ie value=iso-8859-1 input type=hidden name=oe value=iso-8859-1 input type=hidden name=domains value=minimarcos.org.uk input type=hidden name=sitesearch value=www.minimarcos.org.uk input type=text name=q size=20 maxlength=255 value= input type=submit name=btnG value=Search /font/form I guess the important difference is going to /custom instead of /search. On my local home page I have two radio buttons to search either www or the specified site. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Google
On 9 May 2015 Chris Dewhurst wrote: Like Tim Hill I make use of duckduckgo.com. And there is https://uk.search.yahoo.com which works with Netsurf. The problem I find with Yahoo! is that I can't download images. That used to be no problem with Google. Also you have to be very careful to make sure you're on the right link and not some Yahoo! link they want you to follow. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Google
On 8 May 2015 Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: Yesterday Google stopped working with Netsurf. Has anyone any cures or suggestions? I think it's absolutely essential that we have a javascript on/off button on the toolbar. If javescript is off google won't work and if it's on streetmap.co.uk won't work. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Google
On 8 May 2015 Frank de Bruijn wrote: In article 54c08f864b...@timil.com, Tim Hill t...@timil.com wrote: In article 54c08c6513li...@torrens.org.uk, Richard Torrens (lists) li...@torrens.org.uk wrote: Yesterday Google stopped working with Netsurf. Has anyone any cures or suggestions? If you mean Google Search, in its stead I've been using DuckDuckGo with RISC OS for some time. https://duckduckgo.com/html/ Alternatively, if you prefer Google's search results, try https://startpage.com/ This uses Google but has its own frontend, which seems to work fine whether JavaScript is on or not. I use Google to provide a search facility on my own web site. Which of any of the other search engines or front ends allow you to create a form which specifies a particular site? -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Google
On 8 May 2015 Bernard Boase wrote: On 8 May, li...@torrens.org.uk typed: Yesterday Google stopped working with Netsurf. Has anyone any cures or suggestions? One suggestion would be to use https://startpage.com instead. It claims to: - be the world's most private search engine, - use Google in the background on your behalf anyway, and - not to record the user's IP address. We don't have to wait for Google to mend its ways. But startpage gives you Google results. The trouble with Google is that it now redirects search results via itself so you either have to wait while it responds or you have to dig out the embedded url or type it in manually. Actually it looks as though sp does extract the embedded url for results but it takes a while to do it. Also have you tried clicking Advanced? I think you can supply a domain to search but it becomes unusable on NetSurf. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Slow page opening
On 15 Feb 2015 Peter Slegg wrote: This page just took about 5 mins to open. I will check to see if it is repeatable but it might be useful to see if other platforms have the same issue: https://www.falkemedia-shop.de/contacts/ Atari build 2598 Takes about 12s on my RiscPC. There's a big white space half way down on the left hand side. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Page timeout
On 8 Jan 2015 Peter Slegg wrote: When I tried the page below it just times-out and never renders any of the page, it didn't even leave Bing, where I found the link. https://www.gov.uk/bank-holidays Does it do this for anyone else ? Works OK here. #2504 RO6.14 -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: RISC OS experimental build with new compiler
On 16 Nov 2014 Rob Kendrick wrote: I have built a copy of RISC OS NetSurf using a much newer version of the compiler (GCCSDK's prerelease based on 4.7). If people could give a few minutes to playing with it to give us some confidence of it working, that'd be great. (Also any comments on performance difference, better or worse, would be of interest.) http://www.rjek.com/netsurf-gccsdk-4.7.zip I've had a quick play. Nothing too difficult but it seems fine here. KRPC, RO6.14 -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: RISC OS Save-as PDF file
On 10 Nov 2014 John Williams wrote: I noticed recently (from another posting) that (some) other platforms seem to still have Save as PDF which was implemented under RISC OS and later removed. I was wondering about the status of this, as it seemed like a miracle at the time. I think there's still a PDF printer driver, but I just print using Martin W's excellent PostScript 3 driver and then use PrintPDF to convert to PDF and optionally add metadata. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Warning from Netsurf
On 29 Sep 2014 Jim Nagel wrote: I have just seen an error message of a sort I've never seen before: WARNING !!! Your browser is too old and will not display the page optimally ! [snip] So I'm curious: 1. By what process was this message generated? 2. Is it indeed Netsurf that generates the message? If so, it's ironic that I'm using a very recent build, Netsurf #2124. 3. Why is the error message not recorded by Syslog? I get this sort of thing frequently with Oregano but not usually with NetSurf. It's generated by the web page - javascript I guess. That figures because I try Oregano with sites that don't display on NetSurf. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Warning from Netsurf
On 29 Sep 2014 Andrew Pinder wrote: No, it's JavaScript. So there's a downside to NetSurf having acquired JS support ;-) On the other hand you could delight in pointing out to the site concerned that you are using the September 29th build of your browser and asking how much newer they expect it to be! -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Why is NetSurf so fussy?
On 22 Sep 2014 Tony Moore wrote: On 22 Sep 2014, Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: On 22 Sep 2014 Steve Fryatt wrote: [snip] What settings do you have on in the OS for cut and paste in writable icons? Where can I find those settings? In RO 6.20: Configure... Windows Windows Text Thanka. Enable text selection ON Automatically select text in icons OFF Insert Delete selection Insert: Clear selection, Delete: Delete selection, Move: Clear selection Richard -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Why is NetSurf so fussy?
On 20 Sep 2014 Tony Moore wrote: On 20 Sep 2014, Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: One really annoying feature of NetSurf (RO front end) is that it won't let you paste text from an html file into the URL field. ... It _isn't_ necessary, when using StongED to view the HTML source. Press f8 to view the source, select the URL, press ctrl-shft-c to copy it to the clipboard, click in the NS URL field (or Open URL window), press ctrl-v to paste the URL. Perhaps I've misunderstood the problem? The problem is that Copy saves the file type of the file you are copying from to the clipboard, and Paste presents that file type to the application you are pasting into. NetSurf doesn't accept plain text pasted from a file that isn't type Text (fff). This restriction seems to be as unnecessary as it is frustrating. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Why is NetSurf so fussy?
On 21 Sep 2014 Tony Moore wrote: On 21 Sep 2014, Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: On 20 Sep 2014 Tony Moore wrote: On 20 Sep 2014, Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: One really annoying feature of NetSurf (RO front end) is that it won't let you paste text from an html file into the URL field. ... It _isn't_ necessary, when using StongED to view the HTML source. Press f8 to view the source, select the URL, press ctrl-shft-c to copy it to the clipboard, click in the NS URL field (or Open URL window), press ctrl-v to paste the URL. Perhaps I've misunderstood the problem? The problem is that Copy saves the file type of the file you are copying from to the clipboard, and Paste presents that file type to the application you are pasting into. NetSurf doesn't accept plain text pasted from a file that isn't type Text (fff). This restriction seems to be as unnecessary as it is frustrating. As said above, here there is _no_ problem in pasting the URL from the clipboard (RO 6.20, NS 2107, SE 4.69). Which application are you using to view the NS HTML source? Edit by default. I don't normally use StrongEd. I had a look at the StrongHelp for StrongEd and eventually found ctrl-shift-C and ctrl-shift-V, but it doesn't give any explanation of what they do. I assume it means copy/paste forcing type to text. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Why is NetSurf so fussy?
On 21 Sep 2014 Steve Fryatt wrote: No, Ctrl-Shift-C and Ctrl-Shift-V just copy and paste on the Global Clipboard. So in what way is that different fron Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V in Edit? Thinking about it, I believe it's actually Edit's problem. It's certainly not NetSurf because if you're talking about the URL bar in a browser window, NetSurf relies on the OS (or something like IcnClipBrd) to handle cut and paste for it. When you do Ctrl-V in the field, whatever processes it (the OS on RISC OS Select; IcnClipBrd everywhere else) sends the clipboard owner (Edit) a list of types that it can handle in order of descending preference. For a writable icon, that will only be text. The owner should look down the list and pick the best type (or least worst) that it can support, generally flattening to plain text as a last resort if that option's available. My guess is that StrongED does that properly. Edit, from what you say, doesn't. It's broken, because it isn't supporting the Block Transfer Protocol correctly. I just can't get on with StrongEd. I type Ctrl-C and it duplicates the block in situ or tells me no block is selected, then when I try to paste it into NS I get some text I had saved some time before from another document. Then I try Shift-Ctrl-C and -V, and I get the selected URL twice! Well at least it did paste the URL but it's not surprising that I gave up on StrongEd. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Why is NetSurf so fussy?
One really annoying feature of NetSurf (RO front end) is that it won't let you paste text from an html file into the URL field. This is something I regularly want to do when, for example, there's a bit of Javascript that redirects me to a different page. I have to view the source and then change the filetype to Text before copying the new URL to the clipboard. This shouldn't be necessary. I should be able to past plain text copied from any file type (could be html, css, csv, ImpDoc, MSWord, etc.) into the URL field or Open URL window. I think I raised this as a feature request a long time ago. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Boxconvert
I got a warning from NetSurf - Boxconvert What is boxconvert? -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Selecting text gone crazy
On 22 Jul 2014 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: #2023 when I try to select some text as soon as I click on the page everything from the click to the end of the article is highlit. This has been happening since at least #1980 Is anyone else seeing this? (Iyonix RISC OS 5.21 9 July) Yes, I've raised a bug report. It happens in spades in The Register. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Selecting text gone crazy
On 22 Jul 2014 Richard Porter wrote: On 22 Jul 2014 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: #2023 when I try to select some text as soon as I click on the page everything from the click to the end of the article is highlit. Yes, I've raised a bug report. It happens in spades in The Register. See bug report 2144. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Bug reporting
On 8 Jul 2014 Dave Higton wrote: The first thing the bug tracker asks is Category, which is a list of platforms from which I have to choose one, indicating that the bug is specific to a platform. But, since I only have one platform, how do I know if what I'm reporting is specific to that platform? You don't but the developers may need to know what platform you are running on. I take it to mean hardware platform since the OS and version are asked for separately. Richard -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Bug reporting
On 9 Jul 2014 Dave Higton wrote: OK, but that's not what it actually says. Sorry I was thinking of a different field. The options under Category are: ABEND Amiga-specific Atari-specific BeOS-specific Cocoa-sepcific Framebuffer-specific GTK-specific Javascript Layout RISC OS-specific Win32-specific [All Projects] General I, as a user of a single OS, cannot tell whether the problem is specific to that OS, yet the field is required input from me. I just select RISC OS-specific as it's the only one that fits the bill unless it's a pure layout problem. I don't want to make a big deal out of it, but it does look to be a misnomer, and I was just looking for some clarification of its significance to the developers. I've got it. AAMOI: what is the ABEND option about? No idea. ABEND goes back to IBM 360 days if not before. It's short for Abnormal End. Richard -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Facebook URLs
On 13 Jun 2014 Rob Kendrick wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 03:41:52PM +, Cristopher Dewhurst wrote: Is this a Netsurf peculiarity or a Facebook one? If the latter, is there a workaround? You don't seem to be able to highlight and copy just the URL without activating it. A Facebook one. They want to know who follows your link, so they proxy it. Exactly. Google does the same. The workaround is to save the link as text, extract the embedded URL and replace the escaped characters (%2F = / and 3A = : in your example). Once you get to the unescaped ampersand it and all the rest is Facebook garbage which you can delete. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Google hanging
On 2 Jun 2014 Harriet Bazley wrote: Of recent weeks I've increasingly found that Google searches are not rendering in Netsurf, especially when you try to view a second or subsequent page of search results: the window just hangs there with the progress indicator moving instead of the usual almost instant return. Clicking on the same link again to force another fetch seems to be the only way to get the results. Is anyone else seeing this, or is it my ISP? I normally use Yahoo! because I don't like the way Google redirects every link through itself. Yahoo! does for some but I can either type in the visible URL or extract it if necessary. With Google alerts it's easy to select and launch the embedded link in Messenger Pro so I don't have to go through Google. However I haven't noticed any particular problems with it. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Accents in URLs
On 10 Mar 2014 Jeremy Nicoll - ml netsurf wrote: Tim Hill t...@timil.com wrote: Just came across this URL which opens in 'other' browsers but not in RISC OS NetSurf here. Okay, I'll admit to using an old version (3.1 #1298) but no doubt I'll be told if later versions do cope. ;-) http://dahlström.net/svg/favicon/favicon.html (which StronEd doesn't but Pluto translates to http://dahlstr%F6m.net/svg/favicon/favicon.html) That looks right, but http://dahlstrouml;m.net/svg/favicon/favicon.html and this http://dahlstr#246;m.net/svg/favicon/favicon.html those should not work; the xxx; things are valid inside HTML whereas inside a URL you need to follow the rules for encoding funny characters in URLs, ie the %xx values. http://dahlstrom.net/ does resolve although the site doesn't work in NetSurf. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: downloads always set to filetype F80
On 26 Feb 2014 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: NetSurf downloads always set filetype of F80 (XML?) and I have to retype to ZIP, PDF etc as appropriate. Is this just happening on my machine? Probably the remote server not sending the correct (or any) content-type. This quite often happens with email attachments too. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Dev Cl #1717 -- bug-tracker peeve
On 13 Feb 2014 Jim Nagel wrote: You'd think the software behind the bug-tracker could simply ignore the # if people type it in this box. It would seem natural enough for a user to type it, since # is shown loudclear in the Netsurf info box as part of the version number. Well there is a # to the left of the text input box so it's reasonable to assume that you have to enter what comes after the #. Hits on the same pet peeve as websites that throw hissyfits if you type a credit-card number exactly as shown on the card with the spaces that make it human-readable and human-checkable. Ditto phone numbers. I agree although don't have a problem with credit card or phone numbers. I do get annoyed with sites that try to be too clever and then give you an error message if you enter a sort code with hyphens or a date with slashes. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Your bugs in the tracker
On 9 Feb 2014 Vincent Sanders wrote: If you have a bug like this please, please assist us by replying with requested feedback or adding a note that simply says if the issue is still reproducible. We are trying to get on top of the bugs for the next release bug your assistance is appreciated. I have now annotated all of my open bug reports as appropriate. There are some that can now be closed. Richard -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Bad archive
On 3 Feb 2014 Gavin Wraith wrote: NetSurf 3.1 (Dev CI #1681-9) all give bad archive when I try to unzip. The relevant files appear to be !Help, !Run and !RunImage. Is this just me? I've just installed #1689 and it's OK. It's possible your zip archive got corrupted somewhere. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Streetmap.co.uk
I'm having great difficulty getting map pages from streetmap.co.uk. Many of the aquares don't appear, and if I refresh the page I just get a different random selection of squares. It is very difficult to get all nine squares of a small map at once, and virtually impossible to get all 25 of a large map. What's the problem? -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: BBC web site
On 7 Jan 2014 Dave Symes wrote: I need a bit of help please, as Fay's Netsurf is playing up.. A while back the BBC website on Netsurf started to redirect http://www.bbc.co.uk to http://m.bbc.co.uk There was some solution, but I can't remember what it was (old age). Can someone prompt me again. Use a more recent build that omits the processor string. But please do send another complaint to the BBC. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Full save ignores comment tags
It would appear that doing a full save will save images even if their image tags have been commented out. Of course the comment delimiters will be left in the html. I also noticed that if two instances of the same image appear on a page using exactly the same URL, they are saved as two separate files. Netsurf saves the inventory so this could be avoided. Just wondering of this behaviour is a) deliberate and b) desirable? The reason is that I commented out some lines specifically to avoid getting duplicate images and it didn't work. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Recent changes kybosh El Reg comments
I had this problem with the latest build. I tried to post a comment on The Register with post anonymously unticked and an icon selected. It came back with an error message Anonymous Cowards are not allowed to pick an image, the post anonymously box was ticked and a different (the last) icon was selected. Resubmitting with the tick box unticked and/or none selected produced exactly the same result. I tried again with release 2.9 and all was well. Is anyone else seeing this problem? -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Recent changes kybosh El Reg comments
On 6 Jan 2014 Daniel Silverstone wrote: On Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 16:10:24 +, Richard Porter wrote: I tried again with release 2.9 and all was well. Is anyone else seeing this problem? This is a bug in a huge form rewrite which occurred at the hack weekend. It ought to be fixed by later tonight. Thanks for the info. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Grey page
On 1 Jan 2014 lists wrote: Although the home page http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/default.aspx appears to disply correctly, trying to go to any other page results in a completly grey page NetSurf 3.1 (Dev C1 #1556) Not tried any other version ATM. I'm not getting a completely grey page but a large amount of grey space either above or below the page content. (#1543) -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
