Re: Bizarre rendering - PLease advise

['P Wat' via OsmAnd]

Thank you for your response.  Understood.
I'll look forward to the resolution. 
PW
On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 11:49:43 AM UTC+1 dmpr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello! Thank you for the feedback. 
> Unfortunately, it can't be solved quickly. Usually, issues like this 
> "flooding" are linked to issues with the coastline in source data at 
> osm.org. I have forwarded the issue to the developers we will find the 
> issue and fix it, but it would be available only with map updates.
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 10:52:20 PM UTC+3 pwat...@googlemail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Can someone remind me how to resolve this problem, please?
>> Bizarre rendering of features near sea level.  Areas seemingly flooded 
>> (though obviously not actually).  It is an issue which randomly occurs 
>> periodically at various locations.
>> Example attached is at Dittisham, UK, 50.38466, -3.59745 .
>> Thanks
>> Paul W
>>
>

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Re: Power consumption - Has it crept up?

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It is reassuring to hear that I am not alone in noting:-
a) OsmAnd power consumption has crept up.
b) Osmand uses significantly more power when NAVIGATING (ie calculating a 
route and delivering turn instructions), than when merely acting as a map 
and logging track.
c) You can still recommend OsmAnd to people but only with a caveat about 
power consumption.

>Xavier - Due to family reasons and other factors I have had to postpone 
following-up your suggestions, bit I WILL when time permits - Thank you.
>Others - Running OsmAnd for navigation on a car's battery is no problem of 
course, but most/many of us want it for walking/cycling/sailing where 
external power, even solar, is not practicable.
>Developers - You really do need to take this matter seriously in order to 
sustain the credibility of the app.  I am probably not alone in already 
considering other options.

PW

On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 9:55:03 AM UTC+1 anyso...@gmail.com wrote:

> Do anyone know if using offline maps instead of constantly locally 
> calculated vector map reduce the consume of the battery?
>
> AnyFile
>

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Re: Power consumption - Has it crept up?

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Wow, pretty comprehensive stuff.  I'll get back after running some tests. 
Thanks  PW

On Saturday, June 5, 2021 at 5:54:45 AM UTC+1 Xavier wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 04:27:38PM -0700, 'P Wat' via OsmAnd wrote:
> >
> >On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 6:19:44 PM UTC+1 Xavier wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 04:07:20AM -0700, 'P Wat' via OsmAnd wrote:
> >> >[image: OsmAndPowerDrainScreenshot_20210530-184241.png]Has OsmAnd power
> >> >consumption been creeping up?
> >> >I first noticed the problem several months ago, but have only recently 
> had
> >> >the opportunity to analyse it.
> >> >Just normal daily use receiving mail, texts, making the odd phone call,
> >> >running Osmand as a map, the consumption is OK. Battery lasts all day, 
> and
> >> >more.
> >> >Running OsmAnd for navigation (route instructions, etc) it eats my 
> battery
> >> >in an unacceptable time, eg 45 minutes.
> >>
> >> First question: Is the phone today the same phone from "a couple of
> >> years ago"?
> >>
> >> Second question: If it is the same phone, is it *also* the same battery
> >> from "a couple of years ago"?
> >>
> >> Also, if it is the same battery (which would also mean same phone) then
> >> the batterie's capacity will have dropped in the interveaning years, so
> >> the battery will be less able to stand up to heavy current usage now as
> >> compared to a couple years ago.
> >>
> >Hi Xavier.
> >Thanks for your lucid response. Questions understood, and the reason for
> >them.
> >1) Phone - IS the same as a couple of years ago.
>
> A reasonable comparison then.
>
> >2) Battery - IS the same as a couple of years ago.
> >"Aha! There's the problem"; I hear you cry. And I understand your logic,
> >(where you're coming from). I am an engineer and am cognisant of the
> >problems of aging batteries, diminished capacity, reduced current 
> delivery,
> >and such. However, in defence of the battery in this instance, I am
> >reasonably confident that it is still giving respectable delivery. Daily
> >drain under normal circumstances is so far not unduly reduced since new.
>
> Yes, but, daily drain without the GPS receiver running will be lower 
> than daily drain plus the current pulled by the GPS receiver. One 
> possibility is that the additional current draw trips your battery over 
> a knee where it can't handle the load.
>
> >Clearly you are technically aware so I'll refer back to parts of my
> >original post:-
> >a) "Just normal daily use receiving mail, texts, making the odd phone 
> call, *running
> >Osmand as a map*, the consumption is OK". To which I could add listening
> >to radio for several hours per evening, and other usage.
>
> Yes, that does imply a reasonable capacity does remain. Although using 
> Osmand as just a map, without navigation also running, will likely not 
> toggle on the GPS chipset as much, so the current drain will naturally 
> be lower.
>
> >b) " Battery lasts all day, and more." This phone model does have an
> >unusually high capacity battery. It can still easily do 24 hrs between
> >charges, but is generally charged overnight.
>
> Also implies a reasonable capacity does remain. Does not rule out a 
> critical current draw level above which the battery is unable to cope.
>
> One possible test to determine if the drain is caused by the GPS 
> chipset, or by Osmand, might be to install this app briefly:
>
> https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.android.gpstest.osmdroid/
>
> And run it (with Osmand off, to remove Osmand usage from the picture) 
> under a similar senario and time as the navigation where you saw the 
> drastic drop in your posted screen shot.
>
> If you get a similar drastic drop in the capacity curve, then that 
> points to the battery possibly having a critical current level above 
> which it cannot cope.
>
> If you don't get a drastic drop with the alternate app, then that would 
> implicate Osmand as a potential cause.
>
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Re: BRouter profiles in OSMand

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Hello Arndt
Would you know why my posts on Brouter are instantly deleted?
Can you suggest how I should resolve it?
Thanks
Paul W

On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 12:23:09 PM UTC+1 Arndt wrote:

>
>
> On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 1:37:17 PM UTC+2, Egal wrote:
>>
>> My question is:
>> How decides OSMand which of these modes it should use when I start a 
>> navigation with BRouter inside OSMand using the "service interface" of 
>> BRouter ?
>> Perhaps it decides to use mode for bicycle, foot or motorcar subject to 
>> the used base profile inside OSMand - is this right ?
>>
>
> right
>  
>
>> But how decides OSMand to use the belonging short or fast mode of BRouter 
>> ?
>>
>>
> the short/fast mode is taken from the "fatest route" setting in the 
> navigation settings of your OsmAnd profile
>
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Re: Messages deleted - Help please.

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Thanks Harry - PW

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 9:32:45 AM UTC hvd...@gmail.com wrote:

> I lately see that more and more posts in OsmAnd get in the moderators spam 
> box for the Osmand group where I almost daily now have to approve mails. I 
> have no idea why.
> Maybe it is the same for that osm-android-bikerouting mail group. But I am 
> not a member of that one (and therefore certainly not a moderator).
>
> For the OsmAnd mail group Victor already suggested to use the github 
> discussions: https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/discussions
>
> Harry
>
> Op zo 21 feb. 2021 om 00:29 schreef 'P Wat' via OsmAnd <
> osm...@googlegroups.com>:
>
>>
>> Can someone please advise.
>> My messages on Brouter* are always deleted as soon as I write them.
>> Any idea why?
>> What do I do to resolve it?
>> Thanks
>> PauL W
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Re: Avoiding Unpaved Roads

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> Poutnik - Thanks - I'll follow that up.  - Keep well! Paul W

On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 11:04:43 AM UTC Poutnik wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> yes, the same person. But I am an ordinary user on BRouter Google group.
>
> Check if you post by valid account registered for that group, and if you 
> have configured that group for email posting.
>
> Who knows, perhaps Google modified your Google group settings.
>
> Otherwise, ask Arndt, the brouter author, he is the owner of the group.
>
> Dne 22. února 2021 10:01:46 "'P Wat' via OsmAnd"  
> napsal:
>
>> >Poutnik - Sorry Off Topic - If you are the same Poutnik as on Brouter, 
>> can you explain why my attempts to posts on Brouter are immediately 
>> deleted?  Are you able to restore my access to posting?  Thanks - Paul W.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 11:23:09 AM UTC Poutnik wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> P.S.: Another reason may be, if all is mapped properly, that unpaved 
>>> surfaces are not hard-forbidden, but are allowed with low priority ( high 
>>> penalty ). 
>>>
>>> The reason for it is not to fail routing, if there is no other option 
>>> but using such roads. Such situation may happen if such roads are in "first 
>>> or last mile" of the route, or at some routing bottleneck, so they cannot 
>>> be avoided.
>>>
>>> Another variant of reason is, there is other option but very 
>>> disadvantageous according to routing algorithm. Like 500 m of unpaved road 
>>> versus 10 km of paved detour.(just illustratively).
>>>
>>> And another reason may be still N OsmAnd bug.
>>>
>>> Dne 7. února 2021 8:06:57 Poutnik Fornntp  napsal:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> First step is always checking on https://www.openstreetmap.org ( the 
>>>> data source for OsmAnd ),
>>>> if the affected  roads are properly mapped and tagged, according to 
>>>> reality.
>>>>
>>>> As OsmAnd and all applications relying on OSM knows only the reality 
>>>> mapped there.
>>>>
>>>> It may be the case the road surface or even the road class is not 
>>>> mapped properly.
>>>>
>>>> Dne 7. února 2021 7:25:02 Gregory Joyner  napsal:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I searched this in "conversations" but did not find a specific 
>>>>> answer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am touring by bicycle in Eastern Thailand, the Isan area.My base 
>>>>> profile is set to Cycling and under "Navigation Settings"  then "Route 
>>>>> Parameters" then "Avoid Roads"...  I have turned on "No Unpaved Roads" 
>>>>> and 
>>>>> also "No cobblestone or sett".
>>>>>
>>>>> Still, it keeps routing me down unpaved dirt and gravel roads.   My 
>>>>> bicycle is not set up for these conditions.   
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions?   Thank you in advance for any help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg Joyner
>>>>>
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Re: Avoiding Unpaved Roads

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>Poutnik - Sorry Off Topic - If you are the same Poutnik as on Brouter, can 
you explain why my attempts to posts on Brouter are immediately deleted?  
Are you able to restore my access to posting?  Thanks - Paul W.

On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 11:23:09 AM UTC Poutnik wrote:

>
> P.S.: Another reason may be, if all is mapped properly, that unpaved 
> surfaces are not hard-forbidden, but are allowed with low priority ( high 
> penalty ). 
>
> The reason for it is not to fail routing, if there is no other option but 
> using such roads. Such situation may happen if such roads are in "first or 
> last mile" of the route, or at some routing bottleneck, so they cannot be 
> avoided.
>
> Another variant of reason is, there is other option but very 
> disadvantageous according to routing algorithm. Like 500 m of unpaved road 
> versus 10 km of paved detour.(just illustratively).
>
> And another reason may be still N OsmAnd bug.
>
> Dne 7. února 2021 8:06:57 Poutnik Fornntp  napsal:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> First step is always checking on https://www.openstreetmap.org ( the 
>> data source for OsmAnd ),
>> if the affected  roads are properly mapped and tagged, according to 
>> reality.
>>
>> As OsmAnd and all applications relying on OSM knows only the reality 
>> mapped there.
>>
>> It may be the case the road surface or even the road class is not mapped 
>> properly.
>>
>> Dne 7. února 2021 7:25:02 Gregory Joyner  napsal:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I searched this in "conversations" but did not find a specific answer.  
>>>   
>>>
>>> I am touring by bicycle in Eastern Thailand, the Isan area.My base 
>>> profile is set to Cycling and under "Navigation Settings"  then "Route 
>>> Parameters" then "Avoid Roads"...  I have turned on "No Unpaved Roads" and 
>>> also "No cobblestone or sett".
>>>
>>> Still, it keeps routing me down unpaved dirt and gravel roads.   My 
>>> bicycle is not set up for these conditions.   
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?   Thank you in advance for any help.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Greg Joyner
>>>
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Messages deleted - Help please.

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Can someone please advise.
My messages on Brouter* are always deleted as soon as I write them.
Any idea why?
What do I do to resolve it?
Thanks
PauL W
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Re: Streets in the sea?

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Thanks Harry - Understood -  Usdeful image.  Perhaps the polygons will be 
resolved in my phone before I have to drive down the submerged streets, or 
that the tide is out!  ;-)>
ATB
Paul W

On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 9:43:06 PM UTC hvd...@gmail.com wrote:

> It sometimes happens. 
> Coastlines are complex (multi)polygons. It has been modified 3 months ago: 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26491966#map=14/50.8409/-0.2730
>
> But look at my map
> [image: Screenshot_20210217-223946.png]
>
> It is the latest South-East roads-only map.
>
> Harry
>
> Op wo 17 feb. 2021 om 20:13 schreef 'P Wat' via OsmAnd <
> osm...@googlegroups.com>:
>
>> Can someone explain why these streets are in the sea?
>> And a solution?
>> Location Shoreham by Sea near Brighton.
>> Latest updae of map Englanss SE is installed (today)
>> Running Osmand+ 3.9.6 on Android 7.0
>> Thanks
>> Paul W
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Re: Dashboard - Gone?

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Peter - Brilliant!
(How could anyone guess the method?  It's not what you'd call "intuitive is 
it?)
Thank you.
Paul W

On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 9:44:35 AM UTC pebo...@gmail.com wrote:

> To manage main menu:
> main menu / configure profile (use ANY profile) / UI customization / Drawer
> If Dashboard is not visible it should be in the last list at bottom 
> "Hidden".
> Use the green circle to reactivate.
> hvd...@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 14. Februar 2021 um 10:00:25 UTC+1:
>
>> Strange.
>>
>> If I download the latest nightly build I still don't have a dashboard 
>> option.
>> According to the help texts and blogs, it should simply be there. It is 
>> not an option you switch on or off.
>>
>>
>>>
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Dashboard - Gone?

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Has Dashboard been removed?
I no longer see it.
Does it matter?
How should I get it back?
Running Osmand+ 3.9.6 on Android 7.0 
Thanks.
Paul W

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Re: "Loading data exception"

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Harry - I take my hat off to you (again) - You were spot on.
I disabled several maps, contours, etc.  Result = Route plotted OK.
Re-enabled them - Problem returned.
Methodical testing found the culprit.  The weird thing is, it was South 
West England, and the route was totally well within South East England.
Deleted and re-installed it. = Joy!
Thank you Harry.
Paul W
(I get my 1st vaccination tomorrow = More joy!)
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 6:06:07 PM UTC P Wat wrote:

> Hello Harry
> The map is a standard one downloaded via OsmAnd,  England SE. 
> I'll try the things you've outlined.
> Thanks
> Paul W
>
> On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 4:49:39 PM UTC hvd...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Is it a specific map? Try removing it and downloading it again. And 
>> please note that it can also be a hillshade, wiki, contour lines or one of 
>> those other maps. That could be checked by temporarily disabling them.
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> Op do 4 feb. 2021 om 10:23 schreef 'P Wat' via OsmAnd <
>> osm...@googlegroups.com>:
>>
>>> Tried re-boot a few times already.  No joy.
>>> I dont get nightly builds AFAIK.
>>> Wondering whether it is an SD card issue, though the card is seen OK by 
>>> other aps on the device.
>>> Thanks, Jack, anyway.
>>> Paul W
>>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 7:24:26 PM UTC burk...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I get that periodically on my phone, too, and do not have an 
>>>> explanation for it.  For me, it only happens occasionally, usually.  
>>>> However, there was one time when it began happening 100% of the time on my 
>>>> test phone running the nightly build.  Even reinstalling the previous 
>>>> build 
>>>> didn't help.  I ended up powering off my phone, then rebooting, and that 
>>>> seemed to have cleared it. So, maybe that might help you?
>>>>
>>>> --jack
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 4:06:31 AM UTC-5 pwat...@googlemail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Loading data exception" is repeatedly shown whenever I try to plan a 
>>>>> route on one of my devices.  It fails to calculate even any very short 
>>>>> route.
>>>>> It is running Osmand + 3.8.4 on Andoid 4.4.4.
>>>>> Any suggestions?
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Re: "Loading data exception"

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Hello Harry
The map is a standard one downloaded via OsmAnd,  England SE. 
I'll try the things you've outlined.
Thanks
Paul W

On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 4:49:39 PM UTC hvd...@gmail.com wrote:

> Is it a specific map? Try removing it and downloading it again. And please 
> note that it can also be a hillshade, wiki, contour lines or one of those 
> other maps. That could be checked by temporarily disabling them.
>
> Harry
>
> Op do 4 feb. 2021 om 10:23 schreef 'P Wat' via OsmAnd <
> osm...@googlegroups.com>:
>
>> Tried re-boot a few times already.  No joy.
>> I dont get nightly builds AFAIK.
>> Wondering whether it is an SD card issue, though the card is seen OK by 
>> other aps on the device.
>> Thanks, Jack, anyway.
>> Paul W
>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 7:24:26 PM UTC burk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I get that periodically on my phone, too, and do not have an explanation 
>>> for it.  For me, it only happens occasionally, usually.  However, there was 
>>> one time when it began happening 100% of the time on my test phone running 
>>> the nightly build.  Even reinstalling the previous build didn't help.  I 
>>> ended up powering off my phone, then rebooting, and that seemed to have 
>>> cleared it. So, maybe that might help you?
>>>
>>> --jack
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 4:06:31 AM UTC-5 pwat...@googlemail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Loading data exception" is repeatedly shown whenever I try to plan a 
>>>> route on one of my devices.  It fails to calculate even any very short 
>>>> route.
>>>> It is running Osmand + 3.8.4 on Andoid 4.4.4.
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
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Re: "Loading data exception"

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Tried re-boot a few times already.  No joy.
I dont get nightly builds AFAIK.
Wondering whether it is an SD card issue, though the card is seen OK by 
other aps on the device.
Thanks, Jack, anyway.
Paul W
On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 7:24:26 PM UTC burk...@gmail.com wrote:

> I get that periodically on my phone, too, and do not have an explanation 
> for it.  For me, it only happens occasionally, usually.  However, there was 
> one time when it began happening 100% of the time on my test phone running 
> the nightly build.  Even reinstalling the previous build didn't help.  I 
> ended up powering off my phone, then rebooting, and that seemed to have 
> cleared it. So, maybe that might help you?
>
> --jack
>
> On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 4:06:31 AM UTC-5 pwat...@googlemail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> "Loading data exception" is repeatedly shown whenever I try to plan a 
>> route on one of my devices.  It fails to calculate even any very short 
>> route.
>> It is running Osmand + 3.8.4 on Andoid 4.4.4.
>> Any suggestions?
>>
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"Loading data exception"

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 "Loading data exception" is repeatedly shown whenever I try to plan a 
route on one of my devices.  It fails to calculate even any very short 
route.
It is running Osmand + 3.8.4 on Andoid 4.4.4.
Any suggestions?

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Re: Bizarre Routing

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Hi A Thompson - Thanks for your input (and sorry for my slow response).
It does seem there is a link between the existence of an intermediate 
destination, and the bizarre routing.
Fortunately in this instance I know the area, but it could be more of a 
nuisance in an "unknown" area.
I'll continue to monitor and experiment to see what might be the cause.
Paul W

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Bizarre Routing

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Has bizarre routing recently increased or is it only affecting me more than 
it used to?

I've recently been experiencing numerous different instances. 

See attached picture for an example.

Location is 

51°30'52.9"N 1°00'43.0"W

51.514694, -1.011944

Anyone know the cause and/or solution?

Thanks

Paul W

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Re: Install BRouter outside the Internal Storage Space

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Very useful, thank you Arndt.
Paul W

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Re: How to set a delay before voice prompt starts talking

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This topic could also be useful to people who use Bluetooth-enabled hearing 
aids (as I do) to hear the Osmand voice prompts - So much clearer than 
acoustic from phone to ears, especially when cycling.  Beats the traffic 
and wind noise/.
Could also be relevant to Bluetooth headphone users.. 
Paul W

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Re: Store recorded tracks in monthly folders?

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Installed "File Manager" 2.0.0.397_180123 from Play Store.
It moved the files OK.
Hoping my next trip saves itself to the correct folder.
If it does, the case is closed.
Thanks again.

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Re: Store recorded tracks in monthly folders?

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Good point, I'll give it a go, thanks Harry.
Paul W

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Re: Store recorded tracks in monthly folders?

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Hello Harry
Thank you for that info.
On my (UK based) device, I get:-

Short version:-
Menu, Plugins, Trip recording, Settings, select a profile, Track storage 
folder, select a storage option, select how to apply it.

Fuller explanation:-
Begin at the main menu (Hamburger at bottom left of screen - Begins with 
"Dashboard, Map markers", etc)
Near the bottom find "Plugins"
It begins with "Online maps, Trip recording", etc.
In Trip recording, on the left find "Settings".
In Profile Specific Settings, select a profile, eg Cycling.
Scroll way down to "Track  storage folder".
Select an option eg "Store recorded tracks in Monthly folders".
Opt for "Apply to all folders" or Apply only to Cycling".
Done!

Previously recorded tracks are still sitting in a long list in "Rec", but 
hopefully all future tracks will file themselves as requested.
Thanks Harry
Paul W

  

On Tuesday, January 14, 2020 at 9:08:59 AM UTC, Harry van der Wolf wrote:
>
> Plugin manager -> GPX-track -> 3-dot vertical menu behind it -> Settings
>
> Select the profile for your settings (hiking or whatever)
> Move down to "Track Storage Folder" -> Select the 2nd option "tracks per 
> month per map".
> Save, and select "for all profiles" or "only this profile"
> (Instructions translated back from Dutch to English)
>
> Harry
>
>
> Op ma 13 jan. 2020 om 15:56 schreef Graeme  >:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have the same problem.
>>  
>> I have recorded tracks going back to 2016, but the October 2019 folder 
>> ends with the track on the 25th and the remaining tracks are in the "Rec" 
>> folder. 
>>
>> As a result I have some tracks from October 2019 plus all the following 
>> tracks to date in the "Rec" folder.
>>
>> Osmand used to create the monthly folders automatically and then transfer 
>> the relevant tracks.
>>
>> My phone is a Huawei Mate 10 Plus running EMUI 9.1 and Osmand+ 3.5.5.
>>
>> I've just checked my settings and discovered that something alse has 
>> changed with regard to track recording
>> If I go into the Driving base profile and alter the setting "Auto-record 
>> track during navigation" to tick the box to activate this function, I then 
>> get the option to apply this to all profiles or only the one selected. 
>> Using the "Apply to all profiles" option seems to de-activate this 
>> function for everything and on my phone I have just found out that I need 
>> to go into each profile that is relevant and activate track recording 
>> separately for each profile. The global option to select the auto tracking 
>> doesn't seem to work as I had expected.
>> I'm not sure when this changed, but I obviously missed it.
>>
>> However, it does not change the fact that Osmand is not automatically 
>> creating new monthly folder for track storage (on my phone at least) 
>> sinceOctober.
>>
>> Any advice would be appreciated
>>
>> Graeme
>>
>>  Monday, 13 January 2020 12:49:10 UTC, P Wat wrote:
>>
>>> What is the method to store recorded tracks in monthly folders?
>>> It used to happen OK but hasn't done so recently, and I can't find it in 
>>> any menu.
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> Paul W
>>> Pic attached
>>> Using Osmand+ 3.5.5 on Android 7.0 on Motorola Moto X Force
>>>
>>  
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Re: OsmAnd Favorites: Select certain favorite-groups (NOT all) for displaying on map

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Hi Ralf.  
If I understand what you want, it is actually pleasantly simple.  Try this:-
At bottom left of the screen, touch the "hamburger menu".  (Three 
horizontal bars).
In there, select "My Places".
In there, select My Favourites (if it hasn't already appeared)
Toward the right hand end of any "Category", touch the three vertical dots.
Find "Show on map".  Slide the slider left for on or right for off.
When you return to the map you should see the effect you want.
If that's not what you want, let me know.
Good luck.
Paul W
===

On Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 4:13:25 PM UTC+1, Ralf Linhard wrote:
>
> I use the favorite function quiet a lot to mark locations for personal 
> interests.
> At the moment I group favorites in categories in this way:  - 
> <(personal) category> and the colour of the favorite-group
>
> Two examples:
> - "Nürnberg - restaurants, café, bars, pup": color "red"
> - "Nürnberg - culture, education, etc": color "blue"
>
> Is there a function in OsmAnd, to choose for example just one or to groups 
> of favorites, displaying on the map.
> All other favorite groups should'nt be displayed...
>
> My idea behind this is, to organise in this way my favorite places in 
> cities...
> But if all favorites will be displayed, it's a bit too much on the 
> display...
>
> A screenshots is added for example...
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any help, idea...
>

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Re: best HW for Osmand?

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IMHE -OsmAnd works well (normally) on Motorola x Force.  Route calc is 
sometimes a bit slow.  Battery is good.

To conserve power:-
Turn off all unwanted apps, bluetooth, etc.
Reduce screen brightness if practicable.
Rely mainly on voice directions.
Use "Automatic screen on/off".
Carry a solar battery as backup to use at the end of the day if necessary.

Paul W


On Tuesday, September 3, 2019 at 11:36:25 PM UTC+1, Danny Schneider wrote:
>
> my personal expierence is:
> OSMAND needs a good CPU and is demanding on the GPU (new mobile phones 
> have more Power than a mature Desktop PC 10 years Ago, but get very warm if 
> used for longer periods like navigating in a car, which is also a hot 
> enviroment)
> also Maps need a lot ROM storage.
>
> This means a more modern CPU is better. especially modern in terms of a 
> good manufacturing process like 10nm or lower. This produces less heat for 
> the same computing tasks.
> Also you should prefer a phone with more than one sattelite system 
> supported
> In my Car QC3 works absolute fine. Use a very good cable here! In my 
> expierience USB3 is not a reliable connection... most cables loose contact 
> at minimal change of position
>
>
>
>
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Re: fiestskooppunten (rcn_ref) in OsmAnd

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>From the perspective of a fan of Dutch cycle infrastructure, I'll be keen 
to see this operational.  Sorry I dont have the skills to contribute.  Good 
luck.
Paul W

On Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 9:03:09 AM UTC+1, Harry van der Wolf 
wrote:
>
>
>
> Op wo 11 sep. 2019 om 07:22 schreef Peer >:
>
>> In the screenshot you see two cycle nodes (fietsknooppunten) : 56 and 57. 
>> Location: Dalfsen, Netherlands
>>
>> nr 56: 52.51646N, 6.230626E
>> nr 57: 52.52559N, 6.24799E
>>
>>
> Thank you. These nodes are also displayed on my phone.
> I checked the nodes with other nodes and can't find a difference with the 
> others. All of them are part of (cycle) routes. Most are part of relations. 
> Some have the old rwn_ref and the new rcn_ref. 
> It is really strange.
>
> Anyway. The bug is being worked on. Probably something in the code with 
> priorities of what is displayed versus the priority in the 
> default_render.xml.
>
> Harry
>

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Re: Turn screen on (and OFF)? automatically

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> Xavier - Yes to all that.  Thanks.  Paul W

On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 7:03:31 PM UTC+1, Xavier wrote:
>
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 09:40:03AM -0700, 'P Wat' via Osmand wrote: 
> >On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 4:33:45 PM UTC+1, Xavier wrote: 
> >> 
> >> On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 07:01:45AM -0700, 'P Wat' via Osmand wrote: 
> >> >This brilliant feature [screen on/off automatically] had formerly been 
> >> >one of the great selling points of this excellent app.  Who else would 
> >> >like to see it working again? 
> >> 
> >> Don't blame OsmAnd, blame Google: 
> >> 
> >> https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/6675 
> >> <
> https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fosmandapp%2FOsmand%2Fissues%2F6675=D=1=AFQjCNHLUJx9UUtgWJPEso1kyEXydxuIvw>
>  
>
> >> 
> >> Specifically these notes: 
> >> 
> >>  dmpr0 commented on Mar 14 
> >> 
> >> Hello @bluescreen303! 
> >> 
> >> The current release doesn't include this feature, we had to remove 
> >> this option because of Google Play rules about the permission 
> >> needed to that action.  We are trying to find a solution to get it 
> >> back. 
> >> 
> >> Somewhere else (that I can't locate at this time) I had also found 
> >> reference to the Google Play Store rules change resulting in OsmAnd 
> >> being removed from the Play Store because it used the permission that 
> >> Google is now upset about. 
> >> 
> >> The current version you have is the dev's first attempt at restoring 
> >> the feature without utilizing the permission setting that Google is 
> >> upset about, and it seems that not all of the bugs have been found and 
> >> fixed yet. 
> >> 
> >> So your best way to let the dev's know of the problem you see is to 
> >> post a note on Github about the problem. 
>
> >Hi Xavier - You (quite rightly) say; "Don't blame OsmAnd".  -  Indeed, I 
> >don't.  My purpose was to question the logic of offering a range of "Turn 
> >Off" times, without mentioning that they are (currently) not available. 
>
> Best guess -- the range of times for 'on time' worked on the devices 
> the developers tested against.  They just missed that not all deviced 
> worked.  So best is to file a report indicating device, android 
> version, etc. in hopes that such can help them further enhance the 
> feature. 
>
> >Your reference to https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/6675 is 
> >useful, thanks, and right down the bottom it links to #7315 
> ><https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/7315> on which max-klaus 
> said 2 
> >days ago "It ... ... don't work on all devices." 
> >One can at least hope the gurus are still working on a solution for all 
> >devices. 
>
> I would expect so.  But adding a report for your device would, at 
> least, give them another data point to work with. 
>
> >Meanwhile, I'd love to know if there is a (fairly simple) way for me to 
> >make it work on mine. 
>
> Unknown.  Although for "fairly simple" I'd say that answer is most 
> likely a no.  There might be a very complex way involving writing Java 
> and compiling it for Android, but that's far from 'fairly simple'. 
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Re: Turn screen on (and OFF)? automatically

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Hi Xavier - You (quite rightly) say; "Don't blame OsmAnd".  -  Indeed, I 
don't.  My purpose was to question the logic of offering a range of "Turn 
Off" times, without mentioning that they are (currently) not available.
Your reference to https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/6675 is 
useful, thanks, and right down the bottom it links to #7315 
<https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/7315> on which max-klaus said 2 
days ago "It ... ... don't work on all devices."
One can at least hope the gurus are still working on a solution for all 
devices.
Meanwhile, I'd love to know if there is a (fairly simple) way for me to 
make it work on mine.
Thanks
PW

On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 4:33:45 PM UTC+1, Xavier wrote:
>
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 07:01:45AM -0700, 'P Wat' via Osmand wrote: 
> >This brilliant feature [screen on/off automatically] had formerly been 
> >one of the great selling points of this excellent app.  Who else would 
> >like to see it working again? 
>
> Don't blame OsmAnd, blame Google: 
>
> https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/6675 
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fosmandapp%2FOsmand%2Fissues%2F6675=D=1=AFQjCNHLUJx9UUtgWJPEso1kyEXydxuIvw>
>  
>
> Specifically these notes: 
>
>  dmpr0 commented on Mar 14 
>
> Hello @bluescreen303! 
>
> The current release doesn't include this feature, we had to remove 
> this option because of Google Play rules about the permission 
> needed to that action.  We are trying to find a solution to get it 
> back. 
>
> Somewhere else (that I can't locate at this time) I had also found 
> reference to the Google Play Store rules change resulting in OsmAnd 
> being removed from the Play Store because it used the permission that 
> Google is now upset about. 
>
> The current version you have is the dev's first attempt at restoring 
> the feature without utilizing the permission setting that Google is 
> upset about, and it seems that not all of the bugs have been found and 
> fixed yet. 
>
> So your best way to let the dev's know of the problem you see is to 
> post a note on Github about the problem. 
>

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Re: Navigation

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Hi Ben.
*Bart Eisenberg's* videos are very good - He has made several covering a 
range of OsmAnd techniques.  Have a look at them.
Anyway, With his, and the other help, looks like you've got that problem 
under control.
Case closed?

ATB
Paul W

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Re: Navigation

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Hi Ben.
OK.  Your aim is now clearly understood.
1) See how you get on with Xavier's technique. - It should work OK.
and/or
2) Try turning off your device's GPS.  (Presumably you can do this in your 
device "Settings".  Maybe you can simply swipe down the home screen to gain 
immediate access to the "Location" icon.).
3) After you have success with the route being calculated, you can save it 
for future use, if you like. - Ask again about this feature if you need to.
OK?
Paul W
(BTW - I know the Lewis/Brighton area fairly well).

On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 7:03:28 PM UTC+1, Ben Davies wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,  yes, that's exactly right. I want to create a route from Lewes 
> to Brighton centre. I'm not currently at the starting position of the route 
> (Lewes). OSMand creates a route with the starting position being my current 
> location,based on GPS (the suburbs of Brighton), and the destination being 
> Brighton centre.
>
> Ben
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Re: Navigation

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Hi Ben
Maybe I missed the point, but can you clarify your question?
Is the problem that you are not currently at Lewes, and you would like 
Osmand to calculate a route from Lewes, but it is calculating a route from 
your current location (not Lewes)?
Paul W


On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 1:24:46 PM UTC+1, Ben Davies wrote:
>
> Hi, please could someone help with this unusual behaviour, see below for 
> details.
>
> What version of OsmAnd are you using, on what device?
>
> Samsung s5 SM-G900F android 6.0.1
> Osmand 3.4.4
>
> Do you use the offline maps offered within the OsmAnd app for download, or 
> online (tile / raster) maps?
> Offline
>
> If you use offline maps, tell us the exact name of the map file where the 
> routing issue occurs, and its edition date.
> Englande South East 1st July 2019
>
> Tell us whether you have used OsmAnd's in-app offline routing, or any 
> online routing provider like YOURS, OpenRouteService or OSRM.
> Inapp
>
> What routing profile is choosen in OsmAnd app (car, bike or pedestrian)?
> Car
>
> Please specify as exactly as possible the start and end point of your 
> route. If possible, tell us city name and street name for each. Also a 
> Permalink from openstreetmap.org can be helpful.
> Start: Lewes
> Destination: Brighton
>
> Tell us your expected routing, and how OsmAnd routes.
>
> Route from Lewes, to Brighton
> OSMand routes from current location to Brighton
> What version of OsmAnd are you using, on what device?
>
> Samsung s5 SM-G900F android 6.0.1
> Osmand 3.4.4
>
> Do you use the offline maps offered within the OsmAnd app for download, or 
> online (tile / raster) maps?
> Offline
>
> If you use offline maps, tell us the exact name of the map file where the 
> routing issue occurs, and its edition date.
> Englande South East 1st July 2019
>
> Tell us whether you have used OsmAnd's in-app offline routing, or any 
> online routing provider like YOURS, OpenRouteService or OSRM.
> Inapp
>
> What routing profile is choosen in OsmAnd app (car, bike or pedestrian)?
> Car
>
> Please specify as exactly as possible the start and end point of your 
> route. If possible, tell us city name and street name for each. Also a 
> Permalink from openstreetmap.org can be helpful.
> Start: Lewes
> Destination: Brighton
>
> Tell us your expected routing, and how OsmAnd routes.
>
> Route from Lewes, to Brighton
> OSMand routes from current location to Brighton
>
> This bug happens when more specific locations are selected.
>
>

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Re: Nautical map view

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Hi Nico
In case this helps, on my Samsung tablet, the file "nautical.render.xml" is 
in SD card/Android/data/net.osmand.plus/files/rendering .
On my Motorola phone, the file "nautical.render.xml" is in Internal Shared 
storage/Android/data/net.osmand.plus/files/rendering .
PS - I'm not an expert, just an IT literate enthusiastic OsmAnd 
user/cyclist/walker/sailor.  For serious nautical purposes I use other apps.
Paul W

On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 10:20:28 AM UTC+1, Nico W wrote:
>
> Trying to get the Nautical Map View plug-in to work. I paid for it, and it 
> says it is installed.
> At first it (InstallToOsmand apk) was in a wrong folder. I moved it into 
> the "files" folder, clicked on "install" but it comes up with a "app not 
> installed" message. What am I doing wrong?

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Re: Dashboard problem

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No response required.
In a more leisurely situation, with time for more trial-and-error, I found 
a/the solution.
FWIW - For future reference (or other users):-
Open "Dashboard".  At top right of screen find the rectangle with mini 
cog-wheel (settings?). Hit it.  Make required selections. "Apply".  - Easy!
Paul W


On Monday, July 22, 2019 at 8:03:36 PM UTC+1, P Wat wrote:
>
> Dashboard problem - Help please.
> Until a couple f days ago, Dashboard display included a list of recent 
> tracks, and permitted option to select them to show on the map.
> Maybe I accidentally touched something, because that facility has now 
> disappeared.
> Please advise how to re-instate it.
> Thanks in advance.
> Paul W
> Using Osmand+3.4.4 on Android 7.
>

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Dashboard problem

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Dashboard problem - Help please.
Until a couple f days ago, Dashboard display included a list of recent 
tracks, and permitted option to select them to show on the map.
Maybe I accidentally touched something, because that facility has now 
disappeared.
Please advise how to re-instate it.
Thanks in advance.
Paul W
Using Osmand+3.4.4 on Android 7.

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Re: Turning off screen automatically

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I concur - I updated to OsmAnd+ 3.4.4 today.  Automatic "On" is working, 
but Automatic "Off" is not, despite an option for 5, seconds, 10 seconds, 
etc being available and selected.
Anyone managing to make it work please say how.
Thanks
Paul W.

On Wednesday, July 17, 2019 at 5:00:52 PM UTC+1, Andy Henderson wrote:
>
> There have been a couple of bug fix releases since the initial release, 
> but I tried it on a ride today and still no joy.
>
> Andy
>

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Re: Turning off screen automatically

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Automatic screen On/Off is still only partially working for me.
I.e. it turns On OK but does not turn Off automatically.  I've tried 
various settings.
It is just me?
Does anyone have a solution? (Using standard Osmand+ download)
I've currently got version 3.4.3, running on Android 7.
Thanks
Paul W

On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 9:59:00 PM UTC+1, P Wat wrote:
>
> H.
> Same problem as Andy.  ie I set to 10 seconds.  Screen turned on OK before 
> turns but would not turn off except manually.
> I've now set it to 5 secs, and done a device re-start.  Will try again 
> tomorrow.
> Paul W
>
> On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 6:28:52 PM UTC+1, P Wat wrote:
>>
>> > Andy.
>> IIRCyou have to set the duration you wish it to remain "On", eg 10 secs, 
>> then get moving and turn the screen off - (Presumably a brief touch of your 
>> device's physical On/Off button).
>> I'm very pleased to hear this excellent facility has returned, and am 
>> looking forward to testing it.  WIll feed-back later.
>> Paul W
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 5:28:06 PM UTC+1, Andy Henderson wrote:
>>>
>>> Just tried using this feature on a ride and the screen turned on just 
>>> fine but it wouldn't turn off. Tried 10seconds, 5seconds and none (which 
>>> deactivated). Also tried with proximity detection on and off. No luck, 
>>> screen just wouldn't switch off again. Anyone else see this? Any 
>>> suggestions?
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>

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Re: Okay here is a question!

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> Tom
I agree with Per Pujal.
If you turn off all unwanted aps, and BlueTooth and Wifi, and particularly 
turn off the screen, you may me able to run GPS and Osmand all day.  I 
achieved it last summer during a 14-day cycle tour, albeit I was using the 
(then available) automatic-screen-On/Off facility.
Good luck
Paul W

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Re: Turning off screen automatically

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H.
Same problem as Andy.  ie I set to 10 seconds.  Screen turned on OK before 
turns but would not turn off except manually.
I've now set it to 5 secs, and done a device re-start.  Will try again 
tomorrow.
Paul W

On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 6:28:52 PM UTC+1, P Wat wrote:
>
> > Andy.
> IIRCyou have to set the duration you wish it to remain "On", eg 10 secs, 
> then get moving and turn the screen off - (Presumably a brief touch of your 
> device's physical On/Off button).
> I'm very pleased to hear this excellent facility has returned, and am 
> looking forward to testing it.  WIll feed-back later.
> Paul W
>
>
> On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 5:28:06 PM UTC+1, Andy Henderson wrote:
>>
>> Just tried using this feature on a ride and the screen turned on just 
>> fine but it wouldn't turn off. Tried 10seconds, 5seconds and none (which 
>> deactivated). Also tried with proximity detection on and off. No luck, 
>> screen just wouldn't switch off again. Anyone else see this? Any 
>> suggestions?
>>
>> Andy
>>
>

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Re: Turning off screen automatically

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> Andy.
IIRCyou have to set the duration you wish it to remain "On", eg 10 secs, 
then get moving and turn the screen off - (Presumably a brief touch of your 
device's physical On/Off button).
I'm very pleased to hear this excellent facility has returned, and am 
looking forward to testing it.  WIll feed-back later.
Paul W


On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 5:28:06 PM UTC+1, Andy Henderson wrote:
>
> Just tried using this feature on a ride and the screen turned on just fine 
> but it wouldn't turn off. Tried 10seconds, 5seconds and none (which 
> deactivated). Also tried with proximity detection on and off. No luck, 
> screen just wouldn't switch off again. Anyone else see this? Any 
> suggestions?
>
> Andy
>

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Re: calculating route is acting strange

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Have you considered letting Osmand calculate the route?  (Instead of 
creating in on other software).
See https://groups.google.com/d/topic/osmand/ycufpFjzAP8/discussion from 
July 4th?
Paul W


On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 2:34:26 PM UTC+1, Peer wrote:
>
> Today I imported a track (from myrouteapp.com. This track has a length of 
> 410 km and contains 53 routepoints. I choose this track for navigation with 
> the option 'calculate route between points'.
>
> I took my motorola e4plus more then two whole minutes to calculate the 
> route.  
>
> The starting point  of the route was by my house.  After the start OsmAnd 
> let me four time take a right turn  and then I am back at my home again. 
> Then OsmAnd continues with the route. The option 'calculate route til first 
> and last point' is disabled. It looks as if OsmAnd recognises the first 
> point after it is passed so it wil find the shortest route to this point 
> and therefore creates the loop.
> The calculated route is almost the same as the track. There are a few 
> points where the route is different from the track. I tried some navigation 
> option in OsmAnd but I always got the same result. So I think this has 
> something to do with the map.
>
> I will not navigate this route. I allready noticed that recalculating can 
> give strange behaviour on shorter  tracks (100km). Therefor I can expect 
> problems with this 400km track.
>
> I like the feature 'Calculate the route between points' very much but at 
> this moment I think that the route calculation should be improved. I hope 
> to see an improved version in a coming version of OsmAnd.
>
> Op maandag 1 juli 2019 13:43:39 UTC+2 schreef Peer:
>>
>> I created a track with waypoints on MyRouteApp.com and saved it to the 
>> tracks directory of OsmAnd.
>> I choosed the track for navigating with the option 'Calculate route 
>> between Points'.
>>
>> At first the navigating was fine. After approximately one hour OsmAnd was 
>> starting to act strange when it should recalculate a route. The 
>> recalculated as not logical.
>> example 1:
>> I should take a turn right into a side street. But OsmAnd wants me to go 
>> straight ahead, make a u-turn on a roundabout 200 meters further and then 
>> make a left turn into the side straat. 
>> example 2: I have to drive straight ahead. But Osmand wants me to turn 
>> right into a side street, make a uturn after 100meters and then turn right 
>> again to follow the orginal route.
>>
>> This happened several times, always when recalculating a route. I do not 
>> know if this is problem in OsmAnd (version 3.3.8) or that my phone (Samsung 
>> trend, 6 years old) is just not strong enough for performing this 
>> calculations.
>>
>

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Re: Free version or Osmand+

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FWIW.  Last year we cycled every day for 14 days touring in Netherlands.
We used an Android phone with OsmAnd+ all the way.
Each night it was re-charged on mains at B  You can also top up at 
cafes etc en-route if necessary.
On longer days, and if the phone was used for other purposes during the day 
(email, web browsing, phone calls, etc.) we were able to keep it running 
with a power pack which is combined with a solar panel.  This unit is about 
the same size as the phone.  I hang it on the cross-bar or handlebars, 
facing the (usually by then) setting sun.
Power is saved by switching the screen off most of the time, ie using the 
vocal turn-by-turn instructions.
Last summer "Screen auto-on-off" was available on Osmand.  It is currently 
not available but we understand it will soon be available again.  It is 
(was/will-be) a system which turns the screen on for just a few seconds 
each time there is a turn to do, then off again - An excellent benefit in 
terms of power-saving!

Note, you can select (in settings) Flat/Less hilly/Hilly, and various 
categories of things to avoid (eg unpaved/stairs/etc), and other things in 
"Driving style".
As a further extension, you can combine OsmAnd with Brouter which has 
several profiles from which to choose, though I often just stick to 
Osmand's own routing.

As for Free version Vs OsmAnd+ (paid).  What does it cost?  A couple of 
beers?  Good value for money, a VERY small proportion of your holiday cost, 
and it supports the valuable work done for us users.

Good luck
Paul W


On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 3:36:28 PM UTC+1, Lukas wrote:
>
> Hey guys
>
> I'm a cyclist and currently looking for the perfect route planer AND 
> navigator while on the road. I'm planning on doing big tours for up to 10 
> days on my road bike. Some people recommended Osmand so I'm looking into 
> that now. First of all: Do you guys think this is the BEST application for 
> my needs on the market right now? What other do you recommend?
>
> Then I figured that there's a free app and a paid one. The only big 
> difference I saw until now was that there's unlimited map downloads in the 
> paid version. What are the other differences? Do you think it's worth it to 
> buy the full one?
>
> Any other hints how to get started etc. are highly appreciated.
>
> Thank you so much for your support.
>
> Cheers,
> Lukas
>

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Re: GPX records nothing

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1) Has anyone suggested uninstalling the app, re-installing it, 
shutting-down the phone and re-starting it?
2) Another (remote?) possibility. - Osmand experts will know. - Is it 
possible that the tracks are being recorded on some other part of the 
phone/memory/SD-card/etc?
Paul W
==

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 3:32:14 PM UTC+1, Robert Lienert wrote:
>
>
> Thanks. After a phone restart are the same problem: perfect live position 
> in the map (travel by bus), start track recording (the recording time 
> always 0.00.00 / meter 0 m) and not track are saved.
>
> I'am open for any answers - thanks.
>
>
>
> Am Dienstag, 2. Juli 2019 09:16:44 UTC+2 schrieb Majka:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 1 July 2019 18:15:23 UTC+2, Robert Lienert wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Majka
>>>
>>> - In the Fairphone OS > Places > OsmAnd+ > authorizations: I give all 
>>> rights (Cam, Micro, Memory, Places)
>>>   --> no improvement
>>>
>>
>> Try to restart the phone. The "Memory" authorization should be the 
>> correct one.
>>
>> No idea otherwise.
>>
>

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Re: 3.4.0 I'm very disappointed

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Hi Dmitriy, Xavier, and others who have written encouraging information 
above.
Thank you for your feedback and information.
My observation (and doubtless those of others) was submitted to show 
support for the good work done by Developers, and enthusiastic anticipation 
ot each improvement.
We all eagerly look forward to the restoration of Turn Screen On when it 
can be safely available.
Meanwhile, I for one am unwilling to back-track to an older version at this 
time.
Osmand+ remains my No.1 GPS/nav system for most purposes, and I recommend 
it to anyone prepared to learn how to get the best from it.
Keep up the good work.
ATB
Paul W

On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 11:21:18 AM UTC+1, Dmitriy Prodchenko wrote:
>
> Hello! We are currently working on Turn Screen On option, our first 
> thought was to implement in the standalone plugin to use "Device admin" 
> permission, but recently we investigate that we could implement it without 
> "Device admin".
> I think we add it to the 3.4 release soon.
>

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Re: GPX records nothing

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When you are trying to record your track, what colour is the "GPX" button (top 
right of the map)?
Paul W.

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Re: 3.4.0 I'm very disappointed

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Along with many other Osmand users,I am also disappointed about the loss of 
"Turn Screen On".  It (is) WAS one the the importrant bonuses of Osmand.
Please can we have it back. ASAP.
Paul W


On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 1:38:07 PM UTC+1, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>
> I'm very disappointed that the 'turn screen on' pull request didn't make 
> it into 3.4.0.
> That would have been the most important new feature. 
> Even if it isn't not rock stable, yet, most of us would be happy to test 
> it. 
> Or do the developes kiss the ground before Google? 

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Re: CycleMap missing

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I get contours via Osmand's Coutour plugin.
PW

On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 2:49:31 PM UTC+1, Lucian Satmarean wrote:
>
> Isn't there any workaround for this? This layer had some details 
> (especially mountain pathways) that other maps don't have. Plus the contour 
> lines. I used to mix the offline map + OpenCycleMap, it worked awesome.
>
>
> On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 10:10:14 AM UTC+3, Dmitriy Prodchenko wrote:
>>
>> Hello, Lucian!
>> Both OsmAnd version is no longer support OpenCycleMap tyles. You can use 
>> Bicycle profile with turn on routes.
>>
>

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Re: GPX records nothing

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See if this helps
On my phone, to find and view tracks:-
Hit Menu (Bottom left of screen, 3 horizontal bars)
"My places"  (its the 3rd option from the top on mine)
"Tracks".
"Rec".
All my recent tracks are listed there in date order.
Paul W
==
On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 11:39:23 AM UTC+1, Robert Lienert wrote:
>
>
> Hi and thanks for helping
>
> Phone: Fairphone 2
> App: OsmAnd+ 3.3.8
> Extention: GPX (Streckenaufzeichnung), 
>
> The extention "GPX Tracks recording (Streckenaufzeichnung)" are running 
> well, everything are correctly arranged (Profile "walk", interwall, ...) 
> and I can start / stopp the GPX-Track and say "save the track", but not 
> track recording are running an no track will save in any folder. Please 
> have a look on this screenshot: 
> https://exwm.ch/cloud/index.php/s/s5DQyiJfmz7MEjM (the time is running 
> but nothing is registered). Thanks for any help - Regards, Robert
>

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Re: In Krakow and have a question!!

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Hi Tom.
Forget the GPXR thingy.  It is a special you dont need right now!  I use it 
for another purpose.
Krakow = Lovely city.  While there:-
Visit https://www.wieliczka-saltmine.com/ Fantastic Salt mine (use an 
English speaking guide there).
http://auschwitz.org/en/ - No fun, but a once in a lifetime "must".
Zakopane - The mountains.  Brilliant waliking. And some decent cycling in 
the lower levels.
I once had a plan to cycle right across Poland from NW to SE.  Maybe not 
this year.  :)  Cycling in Netherlands is safer and hence more relaxing, 
and some of it is over 1,000 ft!
Good luck
Paul W


On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 6:37:29 AM UTC+1, Tom Norton wrote:
>
> Thanks Paul. I adjusted the Details and that cleaned it up. As a "tech 
> challenged" individual I am not sure what GPXR08 is.
> We are currently cycling across Europe and will be riding into Krakow 
> today.
> Thanks again!!
> Tom

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Re: In Krakow and have a question!!

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Hi Tom
Have you tried this?
On the map, bottom left (probably), hit the menu button (three horizontal 
bars).
Go to "Configure map" - It is probably about the 6th item down.
In that, do you see Favourites, POI Overlay, etc?
Either (1a) switch off POI overlay, or (1b) go in to it and reduce the 
number of categories selected.
And/Or (2) switch off POI overlay labels.
Done?

Another possibility
In "Configure map", scroll right down to "Details".
On there, deselect "More details".

One more - In Configure map - See Map Style.  Are you using GPXR08?

If none of the above helps - can you send a screen print of the problem - 
One of the "Experts" will know better than I..
Paul W



Paul W
PS - Krakow - Great city!


On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 7:59:44 PM UTC+1, Tom Norton wrote:
>
> This also pertains to other cities. Is there a way to keep all the 
> "peripheral" info from showing? For example as I zoom in on Krakow all the 
> restaurants and other symbols show up and clutter the map.
> Thanks!

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Re: CycleMap missing

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Hi.
In "Configure map" you will find you have 4 or 5 options; Browse map, 
Driving (car), Cycling, Walking, (I also have "Boat").  Any one can be 
selected as your "Default" profile, and each can be set up with different 
features showing, different rendering, or you can opt for a different "map 
source".
Paul W.

On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 12:00:19 PM UTC+1, Lucian Satmarean wrote:
>
> Hi, I have OsmAnd and decided to buy OsmAnd+ (mainly to support the guys 
> for doing a great job).
> In the free version I used CycleMap, but in OsmAnd+ I see that this map is 
> no longer available. Anyone knows why, and if there's any workaround to get 
> it?
> Thanks.
>

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Re: Turning off screen automatically

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Harry - Thanks for that. As it might be nearly ready, I'll wait.  Probably 
better (for me) to cope without it for a few more days.  -  PW


On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 9:15:32 AM UTC+1, Harry van der Wolf wrote:
>
>
> Yes, the solution is in that code: ready or not.
> One of the Devs is working on it. It is still  work in progress, but based 
> on the fact that he wants to integrate the changes from his branch into the 
> main branch, seems to me that he is "almost there".
> Of course it needs testing. Note that every branch is a 100% copy of the 
> main branch,  so you could technically download his repository, build it 
> and test it.
>
> The fact that Victor does not have it merged yet, might mean that the 
> plugin is not mature enough yet. 
> Or maybe this plugin development  is ready, but the main team might be 
> doing some big restructuring of or change in the main branch, so this 
> specific development (branch) has to wait for the main branch to be 
> finished. 
> The code of OsmAnd is huge and really complicated.
>
> Harry
>
>
>
> Op ma 17 jun. 2019 om 09:00 schreef 'P Wat' via Osmand <
> osm...@googlegroups.com >:
>
>> Hi.
>> Thanks for the feedback.
>> Is the solution in the source you sent?  I am confused and cant see it.
>> PW
>>
>>>
>>>>>

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Re: Turning off screen automatically

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Hi.
Thanks for the feedback.
Is the solution in the source you sent?  I am confused and cant see it.
PW

On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 2:14:21 PM UTC+1, Harry van der Wolf wrote:
>
> And I forgot to mention (as it is obvious for me looking at the branch). 
> There is already a first pull request to the main branch.
> https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/pull/7031 
>  
>
> Op wo 12 jun. 2019 om 15:12 schreef Harry van der Wolf  >:
>
>> If you view on github you have the repository Osmand  
>> https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/   (the "master" branch)
>> The master branch is always the main branch. Other developments are often 
>> split off to "sub" branches. If you follow the branch below it: 
>> https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/tree/turn_screen_on_plugin, you can 
>> follow the developments on this "turn screen on plugin".
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> Op ma 10 jun. 2019 om 21:48 schreef 'Xavier' via Osmand <
>> osm...@googlegroups.com >:
>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:34:48PM -0700, 'P Wat' via Osmand wrote:
>>> >
>>> >On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 10:01:43 AM UTC+1, Xavier wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 01:31:58AM -0700, 'P Wat' via Osmand wrote:
>>> >> >On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 12:12:40 AM UTC+1, P Wat wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Is there now a solution to this problem?  The battery saving 
>>> >> >> achieved by automatic screen on for 10 seconds, then off, was a 
>>> >> >> particularly useful feature of Osmand.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >Is there now a solution to the missing "Screen automatically 
>>> >> >On/Off" problem?
>>> >>
>>> >> See: https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/6675
>>> >>
>>> >Does this mean that the only way to regain Automatic "Screen-On-Off" 
>>> >is to downgrade to an older version on Osmand+?
>>>
>>> Based upon the github discussion, that seems the only option at this 
>>> time.
>>>
>>> >If so, does anyone know if there is any hope that an updated version 
>>> >of Osmand+ will re-introduce this particularly useful battery-saving 
>>> >facility?  I'm using 3.3.8 on Android 7.0
>>>
>>> That is a question that is likely better asked on the github issue 
>>> thread linked above.  Plus, the more it is asked on the github thread, 
>>> the more feedback to the dev's that this feature was important.
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Re: Turning off screen automatically

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Does this mean that the only way to regain Automatic "Screen-On-Off" is to 
downgrade to an older version on Osmand+?
If so, does anyone know if there is any hope that an updated version of 
Osmand+ will re-introduce this particularly useful battery-saving facility?
I'm using 3.3.8 on Android 7.0
Paul W


On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 10:01:43 AM UTC+1, Xavier wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 01:31:58AM -0700, 'P Wat' via Osmand wrote: 
> >On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 12:12:40 AM UTC+1, P Wat wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Is there now a solution to this problem?  The battery saving achieved 
> by 
> >> automatic screen on for 10 seconds, then off, was a particularly useful 
> >> feature of Osmand. 
> >> 
> >Is there now a solution to the missing "Screen automatically On/Off" 
> >problem? 
>
> See: https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/6675 
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Re: Turning off screen automatically

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Is there now a solution to the missing "Screen automatically On/Off" 
problem?
Thanks
PW

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> Is there now a solution to this problem?  The battery saving achieved by 
> automatic screen on for 10 seconds, then off, was a particularly useful 
> feature of Osmand.
> Thanks Paul W
>

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Re: Turning off screen automatically

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Is there now a solution to this problem?  The battery saving achieved by 
automatic screen on for 10 seconds, then off, was a particularly useful 
feature of Osmand.
Thanks Paul W

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Re: Breakwater rendering

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Both my devices show Shoreham West breakwater the same as you've sent. 
Shoreham East looks a little different.  I had attributed that to some 
"minor" difference in the nature of the structures.
>From a "users" perspective I see features I dont want to run into with my 
boat but could maybe run along top of on foot, perhaps even by bike.
I love sailing and cycling, and use OsmAnd frequently, but I'm out of my 
depth here with the precise presentation of features..
I'll take a back seat and trust you and the other experts.
Paul W
(slinks off and hides)
==


On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 6:54:02 PM UTC, Adam Schneider wrote:
>
> I edit OSM all the time (using JOSM, mostly). And I'm quite sure the 
> problem is in Osmand.  I just looked at the Shoreham West Breakwater in 
> Osmand — which has the same tags as our local breakwaters here in Oregon — 
> and I see the exact same undesirable outlined style that I'm talking 
> about!  Do you see something different?
>
> [image: Shoreham West Breakwater.jpg]
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 11:16:33 AM UTC-7, P Wat wrote:
>>
>> IMHO the issue is not in OsmAnd but is in OSM maps.
>> If that is the case, it would seem the correct action is to either:-
>> Amend the data on the OSM Map.
>> or if you are uncertain how to do this, then:-
>> Add a "note" at the relevant location on the OSM Map.
>> Do you know to do this?
>> (I am not an expert, though I have done a few amendments on OSM Maps, and 
>> made many notes for others to agree/amend.)
>>
>> FWIW, here is an example of a fairly typical breakwater on the south 
>> coast of England (UK) 
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/50.82594/-0.24896 .
>> Paul W
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 4:24:51 PM UTC, Adam Schneider wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's one of the breakwaters in my screen shots: 
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/630726468
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 2:04:16 AM UTC-7, P Wat wrote:

 Maybe others could help if you give the location & Lat/Long of the 
 feature.
 Paul W



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Re: Breakwater rendering

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IMHO the issue is not in OsmAnd but is in OSM maps.
If that is the case, it would seem the correct action is to either:-
Amend the data on the OSM Map.
or if you are uncertain how to do this, then:-
Add a "note" at the relevant location on the OSM Map.
Do you know to do this?
(I am not an expert, though I have done a few amendments on OSM Maps, and 
made many notes for others to agree/amend.)

FWIW, here is an example of a fairly typical breakwater on the south coast 
of England (UK) https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/50.82594/-0.24896 .
Paul W



On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 4:24:51 PM UTC, Adam Schneider wrote:
>
> Here's one of the breakwaters in my screen shots: 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/630726468
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 2:04:16 AM UTC-7, P Wat wrote:
>>
>> Maybe others could help if you give the location & Lat/Long of the 
>> feature.
>> Paul W
>>
>>

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Re: two feature suggestions/things that bug me

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Re. "Screen on/off at turns".
Thank you Majka, you are right, I had not noticed.
It still seems to be missing at version 3.3.6.  (Or have I missed 
something?)
Can anyone offer a solution?
PW
  

On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 12:47:04 PM UTC, Majka wrote:
>
> Just be careful, with the latest Play Store version the screen on/off 
> feature seems to be missing. We can thank Google again - 
> https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/6675
>
> For the mount: I am using cheap mount with clamp, where the additional 
> silicon holder is finn-like, works perfect and holds the phone without 
> complicating the manipulation with the phone. I have no problem with it, 
> even on trails, for a road bike, I could use just the clamp. Not even our 
> potholed roads make a problem. Using poly-bag (or for more "weight" clear 
> freezer bag which can be reused more easily) when it is raining works fine 
> as well.
>
> On Wednesday, 20 March 2019 00:28:09 UTC+1, P Wat wrote:
>>
>> Hello Gildo Schuster.
>> Re 1:- "smartphone mounts ".
>> Have you tried these? > https://getfinn.com/en/   from 
>> https://www.bikecitizens.net/ . Very stretchy.  Great in dry weather, or 
>> if your phone is rain-proof.  If not, tuck a polythene bag over the front & 
>> top. I had tried some cheap alternatives but they all fell apart.  I bought 
>> two "Finns" (in case one failed), and I'm still using the first!  It can be 
>> positioned to leave the screen un-obstructed.  
>> There is another solution I like for wet weather is "Topeak Smartphone 
>> Drybag".  It is a combined handlebar mount and drybag.  Available in a 
>> range of sizes  Waterproof?  Yes! - Submersible (I've tested it underwater 
>> for several hours).
>> https://www.topeak.com/global/en/search-results/SMARTPHONE%20DRYBAG I 
>> even trust it when sailing.
>>
>> Re,  2, 3, 4, 5.  
>> To keep my phone running OsmAnd all day (eg 8 hours full-on navigation) I 
>> use a combination of methods.
>> a) Always use Voice Navigation.
>> b) Always turn screen off, but first set it to come on automatically for 
>> 10 seconds at each voice announcement - That is plenty to see the nuances 
>> of tricky junctions.
>> c) If bright sunshine requires the use of full screen brightness; (i) 
>> you've got the voice announcements doing their thing; (ii) attach a solar 
>> charger/battery - One about the same size as the phone itself makes for 
>> easy packing, and will have enough area for charging.  Its internal battery 
>> will tide you over any dull periods.  You won't need a waterproof one 
>> because when the sky is cloudy you can turn down the screen brightness!  
>> ie. When you can't get enough sunshine for the solar charger, you don't 
>> need the brightness full up.
>> QED?
>>
>> Good luck
>> Paul W
>>
>> On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 7:31:20 PM UTC, Gildo Schuster wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I use osmand mostly when I'm riding my racing bike. I'd appreciate these 
>>> options: 
>>>
>>> 1) ability to arrange buttons/indicators
>>> 2) voice announcements for/instead of indicators
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rationale:
>>>
>>> 1) Some smartphone mounts attach the phone with rubber strings that have 
>>> to be pulled over the phone or with a case that have protuberances (?) over 
>>> the phone. This often hides the indicators (distance to finish, arrival 
>>> time etc.) in the top right corner and the buttons in the bottom left and 
>>> right corners (which unwillingly sets off the zoom). One has to stop the 
>>> bike and fiddle with the mount which Is really annoying. 
>>>
>>> Having the option to move the indicators/buttons to the center of the 
>>> sides would help.
>>>
>>> 2) One big problem with navigation apps for (long distance) cycling is 
>>> the huge screens that todays smartphones come with. They consume so much 
>>> energy, that one has to reduce the brightness. This however comes at the 
>>> expense of the visibility of smaller objects, such as the indicators 
>>> (making them larger would perhaps make the map appear crowded).
>>>
>>> 3) Another problem is the brightness of the sun when it shines onto the 
>>> display, especially in summer. Small items are poorly visible.
>>>
>>> 4) Sometimes, traffic situations become hectic and one cannot watch onto 
>>> the screen.
>>>
>>> 5) Generally speaking, I prefer voice announcements over indicators.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hence the need for having the option for voice announcements for the 
>>> indicators and the abilty to move the indicators/buttons mentioned above.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> Ps.: I know that this is a lot to ask for.
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: Breakwater rendering

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Maybe others could help if you give the location & Lat/Long of the feature.
Paul W

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Re: Breakwater rendering

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Hi Adam
Does this problem appear for other instances of breakwaters, or only 
locally?
ie.  Could it be an OSM (map) error?
(I see various styles of rendering such structures, maybe depending on 
construction or use?)

Paul W

On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 at 11:20:47 PM UTC, Adam Schneider wrote:
>
> A minor rendering glitch: ways tagged with man_made=breakwater and 
> area=yes should be drawn as filled-in shapes, but instead they're just 
> outlined; see attached.
>
> (Is this the right place to report this, or should I be filing an issue on 
> GitHub instead?)
>
>
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Re: two feature suggestions/things that bug me

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Hello Gildo Schuster.
Re 1:- "smartphone mounts ".
Have you tried these? > https://getfinn.com/en/   from 
https://www.bikecitizens.net/ . Very stretchy.  Great in dry weather, or if 
your phone is rain-proof.  If not, tuck a polythene bag over the front & 
top. I had tried some cheap alternatives but they all fell apart.  I bought 
two "Finns" (in case one failed), and I'm still using the first!  It can be 
positioned to leave the screen un-obstructed.  
There is another solution I like for wet weather is "Topeak Smartphone 
Drybag".  It is a combined handlebar mount and drybag.  Available in a 
range of sizes  Waterproof?  Yes! - Submersible (I've tested it underwater 
for several hours).
https://www.topeak.com/global/en/search-results/SMARTPHONE%20DRYBAG I even 
trust it when sailing.

Re,  2, 3, 4, 5.  
To keep my phone running OsmAnd all day (eg 8 hours full-on navigation) I 
use a combination of methods.
a) Always use Voice Navigation.
b) Always turn screen off, but first set it to come on automatically for 10 
seconds at each voice announcement - That is plenty to see the nuances of 
tricky junctions.
c) If bright sunshine requires the use of full screen brightness; (i) 
you've got the voice announcements doing their thing; (ii) attach a solar 
charger/battery - One about the same size as the phone itself makes for 
easy packing, and will have enough area for charging.  Its internal battery 
will tide you over any dull periods.  You won't need a waterproof one 
because when the sky is cloudy you can turn down the screen brightness!  
ie. When you can't get enough sunshine for the solar charger, you don't 
need the brightness full up.
QED?

Good luck
Paul W

On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 7:31:20 PM UTC, Gildo Schuster wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I use osmand mostly when I'm riding my racing bike. I'd appreciate these 
> options: 
>
> 1) ability to arrange buttons/indicators
> 2) voice announcements for/instead of indicators
>
>
>
>
> Rationale:
>
> 1) Some smartphone mounts attach the phone with rubber strings that have 
> to be pulled over the phone or with a case that have protuberances (?) over 
> the phone. This often hides the indicators (distance to finish, arrival 
> time etc.) in the top right corner and the buttons in the bottom left and 
> right corners (which unwillingly sets off the zoom). One has to stop the 
> bike and fiddle with the mount which Is really annoying. 
>
> Having the option to move the indicators/buttons to the center of the 
> sides would help.
>
> 2) One big problem with navigation apps for (long distance) cycling is the 
> huge screens that todays smartphones come with. They consume so much 
> energy, that one has to reduce the brightness. This however comes at the 
> expense of the visibility of smaller objects, such as the indicators 
> (making them larger would perhaps make the map appear crowded).
>
> 3) Another problem is the brightness of the sun when it shines onto the 
> display, especially in summer. Small items are poorly visible.
>
> 4) Sometimes, traffic situations become hectic and one cannot watch onto 
> the screen.
>
> 5) Generally speaking, I prefer voice announcements over indicators.
>
>
> Hence the need for having the option for voice announcements for the 
> indicators and the abilty to move the indicators/buttons mentioned above.
>
> What do you think?
>
>
> cheers
>
>
> Ps.: I know that this is a lot to ask for.
>
>
>

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Re: Land rendered as water - Please advise

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2 months later. - All looking good now around The Isle Of Wight (off south 
coast of England, in case you were wondering).
The areas which had been showing as flooded are now properly rendered.  
Maybe a combination of OSM map updates and OsmAnd updates(?).
Thank you all for you input.
Paul W


On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 11:04:24 AM UTC, P Wat wrote:
>
> One month later.  The problem persists. We agree there is a problem.  It 
> seems to not be caused by the source maps.  Ie it seems to be caused inside 
> OsmAnd. Is there an Osmand-based solution?
> Paul W
>
>
>
> On Saturday, January 5, 2019 at 4:00:28 PM UTC, Stephan Behrendt wrote:
>>
>> In the moment,I have the same problem on the river Rhine north of 
>> Rüdesheim in scale between 2m and 2 km, then everything is pink. This 
>> appears only on the tablet with Android 7. On the Smartfon with Android 9 
>> the map works well. 
>>
>> Stephan
>
>

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Re: Importing Favourites = Disappearing trick?

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Peter, thanks for that.

There is reference to backups.
Can someone explain - How doers one access and use the backups - I would 
like to recover the "lost" favourites.
Paul W

On Saturday, December 22, 2018 at 10:55:40 AM UTC, Peter B wrote:
>
> Reported here. I also had this problem.
> https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/6384

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Re: Land rendered as water - Please advise

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One month later.  The problem persists. We agree there is a problem.  It 
seems to not be caused by the source maps.  Ie it seems to be caused inside 
OsmAnd. Is there an Osmand-based solution?
Paul W



On Saturday, January 5, 2019 at 4:00:28 PM UTC, Stephan Behrendt wrote:
>
> In the moment,I have the same problem on the river Rhine north of 
> Rüdesheim in scale between 2m and 2 km, then everything is pink. This 
> appears only on the tablet with Android 7. On the Smartfon with Android 9 
> the map works well. 
>
> Stephan

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Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

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IMHO:-

   1. For off-road (Walking/River/etc), or for on-road cycling, or for 
   driving in rural areas where traffic is not a factor, OsmAnd absolutely 
   wins hands down every time.
   Why? - (a) Map detail, (b) map currency, (c) works offline, (d) uses 
   less battery, (e) more customisable to suit the user's lifestyle/activity.
   2. For road driving - Google works well. - Adjusts for live traffic 
   situations.
   
   3. Therefore - Have both installed on mobile phone/tablet. = Portable, 
   pocketable.
   4. Therefore - Dump the Garmin, Tom-tom, etc.  The mobile phone is a 
   better more flexible alternative. Get a reliable phone mount for in-car use.
   
Paul W


On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 8:41:44 PM UTC, Tom Norton wrote:
>
> I guess the Subject says it all! Just wondering.

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Importing Favourites = Disappearing trick?

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I bluetoothed a folder containing five Favourites from phone to tablet.
They arrived and imported OK but all existing Favourites in the Tablet had 
disappeared.
Is this normal?
Are the disappeared ones recoverable?
How should one import favourites to avoid the problem?
Sorry if this is well documented elsewhere.  Maybe point me at the 
instructions.
Thanks
Paul W

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Re: Land rendered as water - Please advise

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The comment by Martin Trautmann above describes my own experience.
Notably he states; "...*the effect happened, depending on the zoom level. 
If you zoomed out, water changed to land again.*"
>From which he deduces; ".*.. I believe, it's not a broken polygon, but an 
osmand bug, while using polygons which do span more than the calculated 
area*."
Seems sane logic to me.  ie It looks a lot like an Osmand bug.
Any thoughts?
PaulW


On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 8:47:36 AM UTC, Poutnik wrote:
>
> Good verification step is also testing the area in an independent 
> application, based on OSM as well. 
>
> e.g. OSMAnd versus LocusMap, using MapsForge compatible OSM based maps, 
> supposing both are using recent maps. 
>
> -- 
> Dne 17. prosince 2018 7:43:40 Martin Trautmann > 
> napsal: 
>
> > On 18-12-16 13:54, Harry van der Wolf wrote: 
> >> This has happened multiple times in the past with multi-polygons, 
> >> especially on borders (boundaries), be it country, region, county, 
> >> "regierungsbezirk", "bundesland", "province", "provincie", etc. 
> >> The fact that you mention that it happens between England and Wright 
> >> confirms this. 
> >> It is not necessarily an OsmAnd bug (cutting polyogons on boundaries), 
> >> but can also be due to errors in the (multi)polygons itself because 
> they 
> >> are broken, interrupted, corrupt, or else. 
> > 
> > When I did observe this last time, the effect happened, depending on the 
> > zoom level. If you zoomed out, water changed to land again. Thus I 
> > believe, it's not a broken polygon, but an osmand bug, while using 
> > polygons which do span more than the calculated area. 
> > 
> > - Martin 
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Re: Land rendered as water - Please advise

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I can confirm that the problem is not present at all zoom levels.
In my initial post I recorded "*It occurs when the scale is from 0.5 mile 
to 2 miles*."
ie outside that range the problem is not visible.
PW


On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 6:43:41 AM UTC, Martin Trautmann wrote:
>
> On 18-12-16 13:54, Harry van der Wolf wrote: 
> > This has happened multiple times in the past with multi-polygons, 
> > especially on borders (boundaries), be it country, region, county, 
> > "regierungsbezirk", "bundesland", "province", "provincie", etc. 
> > The fact that you mention that it happens between England and Wright 
> > confirms this. 
> > It is not necessarily an OsmAnd bug (cutting polyogons on boundaries), 
> > but can also be due to errors in the (multi)polygons itself because they 
> > are broken, interrupted, corrupt, or else. 
>
> When I did observe this last time, the effect happened, depending on the 
> zoom level. If you zoomed out, water changed to land again. Thus I 
> believe, it's not a broken polygon, but an osmand bug, while using 
> polygons which do span more than the calculated area. 
>
> - Martin 
>
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Re: Land rendered as water - Please advise

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Hi Harry
Thank you for your fast and useful reply.
I am definitely not an experienced OMer, far from it, up to now I've only 
done simple corrections and additions.  It's probably best if I stay clear 
and leave it to experts.
So, I add a few notes on the OSM map adjacent to the problem to alert 
people who know what they are doing, then stand back for a few weeks to see 
if anything is done.
Regards
Paul W.


On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 10:07:00 PM UTC, Harry van der Wolf wrote:
>
>
>
> Op zo 16 dec. 2018 om 22:27 schreef 'P Wat' via Osmand <
> osm...@googlegroups.com >:
>
>> Hello Harry.
>> Thank you for your feedback.
>>
>>1. Does this mean that it is caused only by OSM (map) issues needing 
>>correction?
>>2. Is there anything to be done in OsmAnd by the user (ie me)?
>>3. Is there anything to be done in OsmAnd by the authors?
>>
>> If (1), is it realistic for me to attempt correcting OSM?
>> If (2), what is required?
>> If (3), what is the proccedure for submitting a request?
>>
>> Paul W
>>
>>
> 1. Correcting (multi-)polygons is really work for experienced OMers. If 
> you are one, you can do the job. However, you asking this might mean that 
> you never did this. There can, and most of the time will be lot of 
> relations coupled to (parts of) the polygon(s). That makes it real hard. I 
> did it once in the south of the Netherlands. It was really a horrible job.
> 2. The only thing you can do is make an OsmAnd issue for it. We had the 
> same some years ago with the Bodensee (between Germany, Switzerland and 
> Austria). Finally the country polygons for OsmAnd were adapted by Victor as 
> it couldn't be solved from Openstreetmap itself. The same might be 
> necessary for this issue, but it will take quite some time. First an 
> analysis of the OSM data needs to be done and when possible repaired. 
> Finding the last few editors need to be done to see what they did and 
> whether they can correct their own mistakes. And when it can't be corrected 
> after all, it might need an OsmAnd correction.
> 3. See 2 as well.
>
> Harry
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Re: Land rendered as water - Please advise

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Hello Harry.
Thank you for your feedback.

   1. Does this mean that it is caused only by OSM (map) issues needing 
   correction?
   2. Is there anything to be done in OsmAnd by the user (ie me)?
   3. Is there anything to be done in OsmAnd by the authors?

If (1), is it realistic for me to attempt correcting OSM?
If (2), what is required?
If (3), what is the proccedure for submitting a request?

Paul W


On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 12:55:04 PM UTC, Harry van der Wolf wrote:
>
> This has happened multiple times in the past with multi-polygons, 
> especially on borders (boundaries), be it country, region, county, 
> "regierungsbezirk", "bundesland", "province", "provincie", etc.
> The fact that you mention that it happens between England and Wright 
> confirms this.
> It is not necessarily an OsmAnd bug (cutting polyogons on boundaries), but 
> can also be due to errors in the (multi)polygons itself because they are 
> broken, interrupted, corrupt, or else.
>
>
> Harry
>
> Op zo 16 dec. 2018 om 01:38 schreef 'P Wat' via Osmand <
> osm...@googlegroups.com >:
>
>> Hi folks.
>> Some areas of land (not all) are being rendered as water. - See attached 
>> graphics.
>> Note that the land to the north (mainland England) is rendering OK when 
>> Isle of Wight (south section of map) is not.
>> You'll note the problem exists in all types of map configuration, ie 
>> World, Car, Bike, Foot and Boat.
>> It occurs when the scale is from 0.5 mile to 2 miles.
>> The same problem exists on two devices; one is running Android 7.0 and 
>> Osmand+ 3.2.7, the other is running Android 4.4.4 and Osmand Osmand+3.2.6
>> Has anyone else had this problem and resolved it?
>> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>> Thanks
>> Paul W
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Re: Video tutorial: Quick Action button

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Thanks Bart - Very useful. - Paul W

On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 3:24:00 PM UTC, Gavin Meredith wrote:
>
>  
> Thanks for that Bart.
>   
>
> On Sunday, 11 November 2018 05:23:29 UTC, Bart Eisenberg wrote:
>>
>> I've posted a tutorial on using OsmAnd's Quick Action button: 
>> https://youtu.be/Ochj_FGge2A
>>
>> My YouTube channel with more OsmAnd tutorials: 
>> https://www.youtube.com/user/barteisenberg/featured
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Maybe it's me but....

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Majka - I also thank you for this
Paul W.

On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 8:20:08 PM UTC+1, Majka wrote:
>
> It is not only you, the search does it often, mixing every possible 
> combination of search. 
>
> Change the way you are searching, do not type it in, use: 
>
> Search > Categories > Custom search (at the bottom) > Tourism
> Do not switch it all on, use the "..." button. Again, do not use the 
> switch, select "Camp site" and eventually "Caravan site" as well, if you 
> want.
> > Apply > Show
>
> Bottom down button - you can name and save this search. 
> After this, your custom search will come up in the categories and it will 
> everytime start from your location at the time.
> The search is first looking in radius to 10 km, and then you can increase 
> the radius.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 8 September 2018 20:57:59 UTC+2, Tom Norton wrote:
>>
>> Currently cycling across Europe and I cannot seem to make the POI's work 
>> for me when I want find say campgrounds or bike shops. I will enter 
>> campground in the search but it will show campgrounds miles/kilometeres 
>> away when I am right next to one!
>> What am I doing wrong?
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
>> Thanks!
>
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Re: Custom renderer adds options to control aspects of contour lines and walking routes

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Thanks - I'd be interested to know if you take this further.
Paul W.

On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 1:58:38 AM UTC+1, A Thompson wrote:
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> Here's a very minor update. The "Hide restricted walks" feature now 
> responds to foot = no/private as well as access = no/private. In my area, 
> mappers are only recently refining access restrictions like this.
>
> NB. Since I started work on this little project, OsmAnd has added some 
> control over contour line width and density when you tap on the "Contour 
> Lines... display zoom level" option. It must depend on screen resolution 
> (and your eyesight!) but for me I need them much thicker and this renderer 
> still does the trick.
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Re: Newbee

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And I also thank you Bart.
Paul W

On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 6:19:06 AM UTC+1, Bart Eisenberg wrote:
>
> These videos aren't official, and they're oriented toward hiking and 
> off-road use, but you might find them useful: 
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0oySsFsQiPRr0-0cyN3XMmD04ENwpeHZ
>
> Others are here: https://www.youtube.com/user/barteisenberg
>
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 9:14:49 AM UTC-7, tkolod...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> I've been using Osmand for a couple of days now and find it's streets 
>> ahead of Google maps, sorry about the pun. I have tried to find a user 
>> guide on the Osmand website but to no avail. Can someone please point me in 
>> the right direction.
>> Thank you.
>> Tom
>>
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Re: Speed as the basis for ETA in various travel modes

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ADVICE PLEASE

Very pleased to have found that it is possible to offer a range of assumed 
speeds in Nautical Miles per hour, and to present a more useful route line 
(ie does not obscure important map details).
But disappointed to have lost all voice prompts (turn commands) in all 
travel modes.

I've been analysing this "lost voice" problem.
Resorted to uninstalling and re-installing OsmAnd+  (is now on Device not 
SD card)
Restored Boat profile, Nautical maps, UK English TTS, Favourites,  etc.
Voice commands have returned.
Re-installed amended version of  "routing" (with NauticalMiles/Hr factors 
in "" section, eg   ", 
etc for other speeds).
Voice commands still OK. (in Kilometres)
Set Units to Nautical.  Voice commands lost.  Returned Units to 
Kilometres.  Voice returned.

QUESTION - How to offer nautical speeds in Nautical miles per hour, without 
losing the voice prompts.
Ideas please.
Thanks
Paul W

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Re: Speed as the basis for ETA in various travel modes

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Some progress, but a snag.
The good news - In "Boat" mode, navigation offers a range of selectable 
speeds in Knots.  Calculated results seem to be mathematically correct, and 
length of route line is accurate on the map.
The bad news - The voice announcement which should come at the start of the 
trip (distance & time) is not announced.  Similarly, no announcements for 
turns.  This failure exists is all navigation modes!

Assuming this is caused by error/s in my amendments to the codes, can you 
see what is wrong in the data below?
AFAIK I have made no other changes.
Thanks
Paul W
==
The following is what I now have in the relevent bit of 
"nautical.render.xml" to produce a satisfactory red-dotted route-line.  
(Not quite what I hoped for but better than solid purple)





==
The following is what I now have in the relevent bit of "routing.xml" to 
offer a range of assumed speeds in Knots 
 




  



























































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Re: Speed as the basis for ETA in various travel modes

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Addendum to the above of 22:27 on 13/05/2018.
.
In the various settings, if Nautical miles and Knots are selected, the Time 
for a particular Distance and Speed is not accurate.
If I reset settings to Km and Km/Hr, the Time for a particular Distance and 
speed seems to be correct.

What should be done to give the correct duration when set to Knots and 
Nautical miles?
Thanks
Paul W

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Re: Speed as the basis for ETA in various travel modes

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Progress, and a few snags:-
Previous problems were caused by having not properly changed the filename.  
The amended "routing" looked like "routing.xml" but more thorough 
investigation showed it was "routing.xml.txt".
That is now resolved, placed in the correct location, and after re-booting 
is adopted by Osmand as the new "routing".
The options for the range of speeds are visible and they operate 
(presumably accurately). - (I'll check this later).

ALL HELPERS (Harry, Max, Poutnik)  - THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
However:-

   1. On the TABLET (running OsmAnd+ 2.9.3 from SD card on Android 4.4.4) 
   one has to go into "Routing settings", "Navigation settings", [boat], to 
   find the speed options under "Routing Preferences.  There, the range of 
   speeds offers TICK BOXES and allows ticking of more than one at a time. 
   Whereas, on the PHONE (running OsmAnd+ 2.9.3 from "Internal shared storage" 
   on Android 7.0), to find the range of speeds, one only has to go to 
   "Routing settings", and there one immediately sees "Boat Speed" [whatever 
   was selected].  Tapping that reveals the range of speeds offered as BUTTONS 
   for the speed, and only one at a time is selectable.
   2. Using the NAUTICAL MAPS mode, the route line shows as a thick purple 
   line.  This obscures important details, eg weirs, locks, sluices, etc.  
   Whereas in any other MAP mode, ie Walk, Bike, Car, World, the route line 
   shows on my devices as a thin dotted red line (generated, I think, by 
   GPXR08.render.xml - Kindly provided by another OsmAnd contributor a year or 
   two ago).

Re (1)
It would be preferable if the access to the range of speeds on the TABLET 
was "nearer the surface"
It would be preferable if the tick boxes did not allow ticking of more than 
one at a time.

Re (2)
It would be infinitely desirable for the routing line to show as a thin red 
dotted line (as it does in my other map modes) because of the significant 
disadvantage of not being able to see critical hazards through the thick 
purple line.
A solution to this would be a major advantage - ANY SUGGESTIONS?


FWIW, I had adjusted Max's "Boat Routing" code to show
" " I substituted values 
3,,4,5,6 in lies of each respective value 1,5,8,15.
Reasons; I want to be able to work in Knots (not km/h) and prefer the new 
speed values.
I (coding novice) presume that the above will have no detrimental effect.
I don't understand why the following three lines exist, but I left them 
alone
" 

"

If particularly (2) above can be resolved, and ideally also (1), I'll 
summarise the method for future users. 
Looking forward to your further suggestions
Thanks
Paul W

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Re: Speed as the basis for ETA in various travel modes

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Hello Harry
Thanks for your useful info.
a) In Internal memory Android/Data/net.osmand.plus/files I see several 
files and 9 folders including "Tiles", though not much in there.
b) In SD card   Android/Data/net.osmand.plus/files I see only one folder 
"rendering" with only one file "GPRX08.render".

Please advise - Should I go for (a) or (b), and precisely which folder?
Thanks
Paul W

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Re: Speed as the basis for ETA in various travel modes

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This seems such a good idea, but 
I'm still unable to make this work at all because 
Despite putting the new XML file in the 
"/data/android/net.osmand.plus/files" folder, the app still operates as if 
nothing has been changed.
Any Ideas?
Paul W

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Re: screen off

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Hi Ralph
Think of it as - "Auto On (when off)". 
(Maybe that is why the developers called it "Turn screen on (if off) when 
approaching a turn".)
So; Set it up.  Get it going.  Turn screen off (manually).  Wait for the 
next turn insruction.  Be delighted. :)
Paul W

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Re: screen off

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Hi Ralph
Note, in OsmAnd the setting is carried out in a section entitled; "Turn 
screen on (if off) when approaching a turn".
ie if the screen is already OFF, the feature will turn it ON for the 
selected time, then turn it OFF, not the other way around.
Don't confuse this with your mobile device's own "Settings" where the 
option is probably to "Turn screen OFF after [selected time]. 

So, try this:-
a) In Menu, Settings, Navigation settings. "Turn screen on (if off)", Set 
an interval of 5 seconds (to make testing less protracted).
b) Go back to the map screen and start navigating a route, then touch your 
screen-off button (to turn the screen off).
c) At the next turn, does the screen come on?
d) Does it remain illuminated, for the required time, then go off?
e) Adjust, as in (a) to an alternative duration of required. 
Paul W

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Re: screen off

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Try:- Menu, Settings, Navigation settings.
Select a profile, eg Car,
Scroll way down to "Turn screen on (if off).
Select from "Never", "5 seconds", etc.  (my preference is 10 seconds).
Go back to the map screen.

You may want to do the same (perhaps different durations) for each profile.

OK?
Paul W

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Re: Speed as the basis for ETA in various travel modes

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Have hit a problem.
Have put the modified file in the "Files" folder, shut down OsmAnd and 
re-booted.
Osmand runs ok but I'm unable to find the list called "Boat speed".
Please advise. 
Paul W 

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Re: Speed as the basis for ETA in various travel modes

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Thank you both (and not forgetting Harry) for your swift and helpful input.
Based on your knowledge, I've prepared several versions of routing.xml to 
test, and will let you know what happens.
Thanks guys.
Paul W

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Re: Speed as the basis for ETA in various travel modes

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Max
The files you suggested a couple of minutes ago - 
Are they the same as Harry VDW showed me on 7th May?  ie:-
https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd-resources/blob/master/routing/routing.xml
PW

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Re: Speed as the basis for ETA in various travel modes

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Right.
Hmm.
On 7th May Harry VDW said "
If you want to modify these values, do so and copy the routing.ml file in 
the "/data/android/net.osmand(.plus)/files" directory, and reboot."
Do you suppose I can just place the modified xml file in  
"/data/android/net.osmand.plus/files" directory, and reboot." ?
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Re: Speed as the basis for ETA in various travel modes

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Showing my ingorance/incompetence.
Why can't I find the routing.xml in my devices?  (phone and the tablet.)
I can see Android/data/net/osmand/plus/files.
In there are folders (backup, fonts, rendering, roads, sounds, strm, tiles, 
tracks, & voice).  Also files from Depth_contours to regions, then 
World_altitude. to World_seamarks.
Routing.xml not seen.
Ideas?
PW

On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 4:21:59 PM UTC+1, Poutnik wrote:
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> Yes, what Max suggests seems like way to go.. 
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> Dne 9. května 2018 17:10:17 "'P Wat' via Osmand" <osm...@googlegroups.com 
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> napsal: 
>
> > Hi Poutnik 
> > As ever, you come up with good ideas, and sound methods. 
> > However, doing it that way it looks as if I'd have to sacrifice the 
> normal 
> > car, bike, and walk profiles as a means of having them available for 
> three 
> > boat speeds.   Hmmm.  Not sure I'd be willing to lose them. 
> > If I didn't understand you correctly, let me know. 
> > 
> > Maybe Max's idea is the way forward. 
> > And if it works, you may be able to explain how I could also use the 
> > thin-dotted-route-line instead of the thick purple one. 
> > Thanks 
> > Paul W 
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Re: Speed as the basis for ETA in various travel modes

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Hi Max
Boat profile is already enabled and enjoyed!  :)

In the example code you've kindly provided (thanks for saving me hours of 
learning, trial and error, sweat and tears), I assume it is OK to 
substitute my own preferred speed numbers and units (eg 3,5,7, and Knots 
(nautical miles/hour).
If I succeed with that, and the file runs OK for me after loading the file 
in lieu of the normal xml, and then re-booting, I'll have a chance to test 
it on the water tonight.
Amazing!
Fingers crossed.
Thanks.
Paul W

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Re: Speed as the basis for ETA in various travel modes

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Hi Poutnik
As ever, you come up with good ideas, and sound methods.
However, doing it that way it looks as if I'd have to sacrifice the normal 
car, bike, and walk profiles as a means of having them available for three 
boat speeds.   Hmmm.  Not sure I'd be willing to lose them.
If I didn't understand you correctly, let me know.

Maybe Max's idea is the way forward.
And if it works, you may be able to explain how I could also use the 
thin-dotted-route-line instead of the thick purple one.
Thanks
Paul W

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Re: Speed as the basis for ETA in various travel modes

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Hi Harry - Thank you for the feedback.
It looks as if there is a solution there, if I can handle the code - (a bit 
of a foreign country for me!)

Suppose I succeed in creating a file for each of a range of speeds, each 
with its own name, eg; routing3kt.xml, routing5kt.xml, etc; then copy them 
all to the "/data/android/net.osmand(.plus)/files" directory, and re-boot; 
is it viable to then set the desired speed by selecting the relevant file 
without a re-boot between each adjustment?
Reason - When sailing, the speed toward the destination is not reliably 
predictable in advance (because of unknown factors, eg wind speed, 
currents, effects of waves, having to tack, etc.).  Having to re-boot 
during navigation would be a pain. 

Paul W

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Speed as the basis for ETA in various travel modes

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What speed does OsmAnd use as the basis for ETA in Walking mode?
What speed does OsmAnd use as the basis for ETA in Bike mode?
What speed does OsmAnd use as the basis for ETA in Car mode?
In each case - Can the user adjust the assumed speed?
Thanks
Paul W

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Thick purple line hides useful information.

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Hi
Using Osmand+ in Nautical mode with Brouter in "River" mode.

Question (2) Is there a way to modify the thick purple route line to 
something like the dotted line as per 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/osmand/LnR2qaM9Jg0/lOSWlMF182kJ etc.? and 
to make it function in River/Nautical mode?
Reason for question = It is useful to see the information which is often 
hidden by the thick line. .

(Question 1 is in a separate discussion)

Using Osmand+ 2.9.3 in conjunction with Brouter 1.4.9 in Nautical and 
"River" modes, with Android 7 on Motorola Moto X Force.

Thanks
PW

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Speed assumptions

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Hi
Using Osmand+ in Nautical mode with Brouter in "River" mode.

Question (1) Is there a way to reduce the assumed speed - The existing 
settings seem to assume about 5 miles (statute) in 25 minutes.
Reason for question = A great many boats average half that!  Journey time 
and ETAs are currently way too short.

(Question 2 is in a separate discussion)

Using Osmand+ 2.9.3 in conjunction with Brouter 1.4.9 in Nautical and 
"River" modes, with Android 7 on Motorola Moto X Force.

Thanks
PW

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Map updates - Colour on screen

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Osmand's facility for displaying which downloaded maps are/not up-to-date, 
[Menu, Download maps, Local], is very useful, but IMHO an improvement would 
be worthwhile.

Reasoning:-

(a) Most people don't know the names of regions/counties/provinces of 
"foreign" countries.

(b) You don't necessarily want to update all the maps you have stored.
Currently, if you zoom the map back to 100 miles, you see downloaded maps 
tinted green.  There is no visual indication of in/out-of date.
Would it be simple/viable for out-of-date maps to be tinted a different 
colour, eg yellow.

Does this seem a good idea?

Paul W

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Re: starting a navigation, my location is tracked with lines before I have moved...

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Majka's comments match my own findings.
IMHO:-
a) Any time your GPS is hunting for a signal it will not show accurate 
location and will "jump around", eg when first turned on, or when sky is 
obstructed by trees, buildings, etc. Generally I find there is initially no 
fix or accuracy can be as bad as 100 metres, then this improves to a few 
metres. (My device combines GPS, A-GPS, Glonass, and mobile networks.) 
b) The size of OsmAnd's blue location-circle can be a useful indication of 
the accuracy of the fix.
c) (i) Allow your GPS to acquire a good fix, (ii) re-start your track 
recording, (iii) get underway.
Paul W

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Re: Size of Osmand

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Ignore the above, for the moment, phone "Settings" includes an option to 
allow non-Playstore installations.  Installed version 1.9.5 (30Mb on the 
Osmand database) but it is still too big for the dim-phone. - Work in 
progress!  Will report eventual success/failure.
Thanks for all help thus far.
Paul W

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Re: Size of Osmand

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Copied a file from the database you posted, and pasted it in the downloads 
folder of the mobile.
Tried to install it.  Got message "*Install blocked - For security your 
phone is set to block installation of applications not sourced in Google 
Play Store*".
Is this a dead end?
Is there another way?
Paul W 

On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 7:06:29 PM UTC, Peter B wrote:
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> Sorry for the late answer, I'm on holyday, replay via mail did not work.
>
> On 27=2E Oktober 2017 11:39:43 MESZ, 'P Wat' via Osmand <osmand@googlegrou=
> ps=2Ecom> wrote:
> --Hi Peter
> --Thanks for pointing me at the list=2E
> --As you say, pot luck whether any randomly selected one is bug free:-
> --Would staying away from Beta help?
> --What is the significance of the filenames which include "amz", "bk",
> "rk"?
> Don't know, just download, try install and look what it is=2E
> --Having downloaded a file, (eg via PC), what is the process to install
> it?
> --Just executing it by clicking=2E The system will start installing 
> procedure
>
> --Should I begin by uninstalling the existing large app from the
> --dim-phone?
> I would try to use a version wich is not too old=2E The install without un=
> installing the current and look whether it will work=2E If not then 
> uninstall
>
> So whole operation  is a lot of trail and error=2E=2E
> Good luck, Peter
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Re: How do I stop osmand jumping to my current location?

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This a may be a dumb answer, but have you tried turning off "Location" in 
"Settings"? - It works for me.
Paul W

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Re: Size of Osmand

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Hi Harry
Reducing the World Map file size sounds interesating, but she's evidently 
got to have a significantly smaller version of Osmand.  When I've achived 
that, I'll look at map file size if necessary, and probably ask you how to 
find your "howTo"!
Thanks
Paul W

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Re: Size of Osmand

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Hi Peter
Thanks for pointing me at the list.
As you say, pot luck whether any randomly selected one is bug free:-
Would staying away from Beta help?
What is the significance of the filenames which include "amz", "bk", "rk"?
Having downloaded a file, (eg via PC), what is the process to install it?
Should I begin by uninstalling the existing large app from the dim-phone?
Thanks
PauL W

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