Testing

[Frank Ventura]

Just a test please ignore

Probelsm with Audacity for Windows

[Frank Ventura]

Hi all, I am trying to convert a 16 bit .wav file to 8 bit 8000hz pcm using 
Audacity for Windows and am running into a problem. Here are the steps I take:
a. Open the file in Audacity for Windows
b. Under Tracks I resample to 8000hz
c. Under File I select Export and in the save as drop down I pick "other"
d. I tab to file typw and set it to .waV
e. I tab again to encoding and set it to unsigned 8 bit
f. I give it a name and save it

The problem I am having is that it always saves in .aif format no matter what I 
have it set to. It is as if it is not reading the setting in the format drop 
down correctly. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Frank

RE: How to connect regular headphones to an iPhone

[Frank Ventura]

Some people use cases for their iOS devices that are too thick to allow some 
3.5 mm connectors to seat properly.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
cov...@ccs.covici.com
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 7:38 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: How to connect regular headphones to an iPhone

Regular earphones did fit  into my iphone 5 just fine, so I am not sure
what is happening here.

Adrian Spratt  wrote:

> This is an iPhone 5, and a normal jack won't fit its headphone/earphone 
> receptor.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 2:55 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: How to connect regular headphones to an iPhone
> 
> Normally you just plug them in assuming the jack of your headphones is a 
> 3.5MM jack.
> 
> If the jack is larger then you’ll have to buy an adapter which can be 
> purchased at your local electronics store.
> 
> Connecting a standard set of headphones means that you’ll have to answer a 
> call on your iPhone on the iPhone itself, control music playback and volume 
> from the iPhone itself and use the iPhones own microphone.
> 
> Some headphones such as the B P7’s come with interchangeable leads, one 
> specifically for an IOS/Android device and the other specifically for 
> connection to a stereo system.
> 
> 
> > On 26 Apr 2016, at 4:44 AM, Adrian Spratt  wrote:
> > 
> > I'm guessing there's a connector that enables you to connect headphones 
> > with regular jacks to iPhones. I'm hopeless at technical jargon. If there 
> > is such a connector, could someone say exactly what I should look for on, 
> > say, Amazon?
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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 cov...@ccs.covici.com

RE: folks..may i ask a really dumb question?

[Frank Ventura]

Does this mixer use knobs or sliders?


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 6:32 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: folks..may i ask a really dumb question?

Hello. I got a mackie vlz4 a few weeks ago. Its a 4 channel, and very impressed 
with it. It have a very clean sound and the mike pre amps are great. I use mine 
for podccasting and such. It was very important for me to get something that 
can handle both dynamic and condenser mikes equally well. That is one of the 
things I have against behringer that their components are not so good.

On 01/03/2016, Jörgen Hansson  wrote:
> hey randy!
> there are lots of mixing consoles out there, and mostly they look the 
> same,
>
> but well a normal mixing console, can have up to 32 faders, but that's 
> a 32
>
> channel mixer, smile. and the mixingconsole itself has some knobs for 
> panning, and Equalizers and so on. but it al depends on what you like 
> to have, and the mixing consoles can also have different prises, 
> depending on which kind of mixer you would like to have. I recommend 
> that you might go to
>
> a music store in your area, and ask them to have a look at a mixing 
> board or
>
> console as we say as well, smile.
> but for you as a station playlist user, if you have a low budjet, you 
> can use the station playlist it self. I do that, I don't need a mixing 
> console for that, well, I can use one, but then I have to fiddle 
> around with other programs and so on, so I'm satisfied with what I have so 
> far.
> Regards,
> Jörgen Hansson!
> tel: +46 703601296
> Web: www.jorgenhansson.com
> Skype: djtropical4532
> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> From: randy tijerina
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 4:43 AM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: folks..may i ask a really dumb question?
>
> Folks, please have mercy on me for asking this idiotic question.
>
> what exactly does a mixer console look like?
> for example, for you folks who do radio or internet broadcasting?
> Are there any good accessible ones?
> or, what do you guys recommend?
> How easy are they to set up?
> My broadcasting dream is starting to take flight.
>
>
>


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RE: TouchCopy?

[Frank Ventura]

The link to the quick start guide is below. It sounds like you are supposed to 
connect your ipod via the USb cable.
http://www.wideanglesoftware.com/support/manuals/touchcopy/12/en/tutorial.php

Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Carliss
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 2:39 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: TouchCopy?

Listers,

Has anyone herd of this app. or used it?  If you have or is , using it, please 
tel me what cables do I use between the IPod and the computer.
TouchCopy, is used to transfer what ever you need to transfer from your tablet, 
IPod, and what other Apple instrment you may use. It is able to put things on 
the computer.

If you know how it is done please let me know? I would greatly appreciate it.

Now that Ii'm talking about this app. maybe the files are transfered via blue 
tooth?

Thanks to all.

 

 

Carliss

RE: An email list of interest to persons whom are blind or low vision

[Frank Ventura]

Tom, were you trying to subscribe? If so follow the tip previously posted here 
about putting subscribe in the subject line. Or did you have problems posting?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 12:02 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: An email list of interest to persons whom are blind or low vision

Okay...I just sent something to that list, but got the same results as was 
mentioned before (no command in subject) is there something else we need to do 
first?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Stumpy
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 5:09 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: An email list of interest to persons whom are blind or low vision

I just tried that, it works!  Go ahead, if you haven't tried it already... 
Scott

-Original Message-
From: Fanus
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 4:55 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: An email list of interest to persons whom are blind or low vision

Hi Frank
Are you sure it must be a blank message? I did that and got a reply that no 
command was found. Must there not perhaps be the word subscribe in the 
subject field?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message -
From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:29 AM
Subject: An email list of interest to persons whom are blind or low vision


 Hi everyone, this is a quick note to let folks know that there is now an 
 email list for persons to discuss topics relating to audio or video 
 equipment from the perspective of a blind of low vision person. Topics can 
 include discussion of purchasing, use, setup, maintenance, collecting of a 
 variety of equipment, video players, DVD/Blue Ray plays, HT PCs, TVs, 
 speakers, tuners, receivers, amps, tape decks, CD players, turntables, 
 etc. To subscribe send a blank email to:

 blindav-requ...@freelists.org

 Once subscribed you can introduce yourself by sending a message to:
 blin...@freelists.org



 tanks and enjoy
 Frank

RE: An email list of interest to persons whom are blind or low vision

[Frank Ventura]

My apologies, I forgot to mention adding subscribe in the subject field. You 
are correct.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 4:55 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: An email list of interest to persons whom are blind or low vision

Hi Frank
Are you sure it must be a blank message? I did that and got a reply that no 
command was found. Must there not perhaps be the word subscribe in the 
subject field?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message -
From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:29 AM
Subject: An email list of interest to persons whom are blind or low vision


 Hi everyone, this is a quick note to let folks know that there is now an 
 email list for persons to discuss topics relating to audio or video 
 equipment from the perspective of a blind of low vision person. Topics can 
 include discussion of purchasing, use, setup, maintenance, collecting of a 
 variety of equipment, video players, DVD/Blue Ray plays, HT PCs, TVs, 
 speakers, tuners, receivers, amps, tape decks, CD players, turntables, 
 etc. To subscribe send a blank email to:

 blindav-requ...@freelists.org

 Once subscribed you can introduce yourself by sending a message to:
 blin...@freelists.org



 tanks and enjoy
 Frank

 

An email list of interest to persons whom are blind or low vision

[Frank Ventura]

Hi everyone, this is a quick note to let folks know that there is now an email 
list for persons to discuss topics relating to audio or video equipment from 
the perspective of a blind of low vision person. Topics can include discussion 
of purchasing, use, setup, maintenance, collecting of a variety of equipment, 
video players, DVD/Blue Ray plays, HT PCs, TVs, speakers, tuners, receivers, 
amps, tape decks, CD players, turntables, etc. To subscribe send a blank email 
to:

blindav-requ...@freelists.org

Once subscribed you can introduce yourself by sending a message to:
blin...@freelists.org



tanks and enjoy
Frank

speakers for small homes, was:RE: bose speakers

[Frank Ventura]

If size is a concern you may want to try the Klipsch G28. They are very slim 
and not very deep but still sound reasonably well. Cost is moderate.
http://www.klipsch.com/gallery-g-28-flat-panel-speaker

Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Bud Schwab
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 8:54 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: bose speakers

Hi Mary,

I'd be interested in hearing a little more about those speakers you mentioned.  
Cost is a little bit of a consideration, but I'm more interested in quality and 
size.  I'm moving into a very small place compared with where I am now and 
can't take my big speakers.  I didn't intend to start a big discussion here of 
Bose.  Actually I had mentioned I was looking for speakers and so many people 
are answering me about Bose radios and sound systems. I'll look forward to any 
info you have on those speakers you mentioned.
Thanks.

BudAt 03:43 PM 1/18/2015, you wrote:
If you have the money, they're not the cheapest, it is hard to go wrong 
with Bowers and Wilkins speakers.

Mary


Bud Schwab
W 6 Z Y P
Malibu, California
  

BOSE radios

[Frank Ventura]

Both my wife and mother-in-law have those Bose radios. I'd rather listen to a 
dentist's drill. The highs and vocals sound like I have cotton balls in my 
ears. The low end, is non-existent and its obvious that Bose believes bass to 
be something only a 16 year old in a Honda Civic has any interest in. There is 
mid-range though and I think it would sound great for the average Gregorian 
chant. Also be wary that room size and placement of sthese radios is critical 
and there is no automated room correction built in.
Frank

RE: Radiologik Broadcast Software

[Frank Ventura]

Would you consider doing a podcast about that software for the Mac, sounds good.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:30 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Radiologik Broadcast Software

Hi!

I just purchasec\d a licence for this software, I'm most impressed with the 
accessibility allowed and of course thanks to those who test the software and 
helped the developers make such positive changes.

Radiologik should suit me right down to the ground as it can integrate with my 
existing iTunes library and playlists which makes things that little bit easier.

Radiologik doesn't have any modules built-in for Internet streaming but that's 
no problem whatever as I already have the solution to that puzzle with the 
excellent Nicecast App which will take the outputs of Radiologik - along with 
appropriate data - and stream that for me, all I've got to do now is find time 
to set everything up.

I've used various Broadcasting packages for the Mac including Nicecast itself 
in conjunction with iTunes, I then progressed to another App called DJay which 
was okay but Radiologik looks and fes so much better and is so much more 
flexible to work with.

I also recommend the excellent BossJock Studio for IOS if you have an iPhone, 
iPad, iPond Touch etc, that App really puts the power of the Broadcaster in the 
palm of the hand, I still find it amazing that I can stream 
broadcasts/programmes from my hand world-wide.

RE: Decibel from sbooth.org

[Frank Ventura]

Can it recognize and play SA CDs?
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:24 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Decibel from sbooth.org

Ho do you mean it ccan play CDs like a CD player? Are you suggesting that 
instead of treating the tracks like files it can go threw them and the empty 
spaces between like an actual CD player does?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 8:13 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Decibel from sbooth.org

Yes, in many ways it can, its an audiophile player, to put it simply the player 
- amongst other things - will play a CD in your drive as you’d hear it through 
a good quality CD player hooked up to your Hi-Fi system, its also designed to 
handle all the HD audio files out there.

Don’t get me wrong, VLC is still a nifty player but just doesn’t have the 
audiophile features that decibel does though perhaps you could add those to VLC 
through plugins? It is an open source project after all.

 On 10 Nov 2014, at 11:11 pm, Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Man, the mac always gets cooler stuff. I think this can do more then VLC can.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
 Trethowan
 Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 5:47 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Decibel from sbooth.org
 
 At last! I’e found an accessible Audiophile type player for the Mac, its not 
 freeware though there is a trial which is available at the link below
 
 
 http://sbooth.org/Decibel/#decibel http://sbooth.org/Decibel/#decibel
 
 

**

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RE: appleTV to RCA (composite)

[Frank Ventura]

Hi all, following up with my previous post. I was able to get my AppleTV hooked 
up the old analog pre-amp I have in my bedroom using an HDMI to Composite I 
found on Amazon. I'll post the link below. As someone else mentioned the key is 
to use a converter that has its own power supply. My pre-amp has a few switched 
outputs on the back so that made for an easy place to plug it in. So basically 
there are three connections. The first is the AC adaptor. The second is an 
ordinary HDMI cable between my AppleTV and the coverter. The third is the cable 
to the Yellow, Red, and White RCA jacks. As my pre-amp is audio only I left the 
yellow connector disconnected and only used the Red and White. Just tuned my 
pre-amp to the appropriate input and that was it. The AppleTV remote doesn't 
have great range but I can sit on the edge of my bed and get it to work.  The 
link is below:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00H4SO0WK/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?qid=1414864346sr=8-5
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 3:25 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: appleTV to RCA (composite)

Only my way of thinking of course but it does sound to me like very unecessary 
and time wasting work doing something like this and I say that with a variety 
of reasons in mind.

Yes, I do udnerstand that many of us are cash strapped - thought I'd point that 
out before those who can't read eMail waste more band width smile - but when 
all is said and done you're probably going to throw more good money after bad.

Secondly, the picture quality of composet is nothing like that of even S-Video 
and certainly nothing like the quality of HDMI, that's not an Issue I myself am 
worried about however for those who want to watch videos from your Apple TV? 
Well they're going to be incredibly disappointed.

Next is the fact that HDMI does far more than send video to a TV, HDMI is a 
digital link which is interactive so I'm not at all surprised that some people 
may have had problems getting converter boxes working with an Apple TV 
particuarly when it comes to Voiceover.

Given that HDMI TV'S are literally being given away these days I'm sure it 
wouldn't take you all that long to find one and of course we're not talking 
about the latest TV'S either.

I have a Samsung 19 inch model here which - whilst isn't a 4K ultra HDTV
- does a very good job I'm told by those who watch it, I'm planning on getting 
something bigger in the future but its not a priority for obvious reasons and - 
even suppose I did get something bigger - where would i put it? The 19 inch 
Samsung sits very nicely thanks in my cabinet.

When I first got that TV I didn't have my Donon HDMI Receiver so I ran a HDMI 
lead from the Apple TV to the Samsung Television and then ran an Optical 
Digital link from the TV to the Yamaha Receiver which I was using at the time 
so both picture and sound quality were more than reasonable doing things this 
way, just some points for you to ponder.

On 2/11/2014 5:26 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
 Hi all, has anyone had any luck connecting an AppleTV to RCA (red/white audio 
 and yellow video - composite) jacks on a pre-amp or receiver? I have tried 
 several adaptors without any success.
 Frank

appleTV to RCA (composite)

[Frank Ventura]

Hi all, has anyone had any luck connecting an AppleTV to RCA (red/white audio 
and yellow video - composite) jacks on a pre-amp or receiver? I have tried 
several adaptors without any success.
Frank

RE: Sharing audio with

[Frank Ventura]

There is a round about way of accomplishing this. It would require a USB mixer. 
The internal sound card of the Mac should be set as the default and iTunes 
should play though that. A line from the headphone jack to an input on the 
mixer should be established. Then a microphone should be attached to the mixer. 
The mixer should show up as a USB audio device and hopefully Skype can be 
configured to use it as a microphone input. If you're  using Voiceover you may 
also want to connect another cheap USB sound card and route Voiceover through 
that and maybe even the Skype audio playback as well if you don't want that in 
the mix. Skype can be real picky about what audio devices it uses and that is 
why something like Audio Hijack Pro may not work.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van 
Deventer
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 5:14 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Sharing audio with

Suppose the same kind of system should work for a mac using the yeti or similar 
microphone with a built in sound card.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gianluca 
Nucci
Sent: 02 October 2014 05:44 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sharing audio with

 Content preview:  Thanks André, keep in mind that I'm using a Mac though.
I've
tried everything I could think of... 2014-10-02 8:22 GMT+02:00, André van
Deventer :  Gianluca   The only way I could find to do this was by using
a rather elaborate  hardware connection. I could never find a software 
solution
that works.   There are programs like for example Pretty May which was
   supposed to  accomplish this but I never got any of them to work properly.
  My configuration depends on the hardware stuff I have.  I have a yety
USB microphone which also has a built in sound card. So I  connected the
headphone socket of the Yeti output to the line in socket of  my sound card
with a hardware cable.   Then I set the mp3 player output - in my case
   foobar 2000 - output to use  the Yeti as an output device and in skype I
   selected the input device as  the  line in.   Remember that the output
in skype is not stereo.   Regards   Andre 
 
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RE: I'm trying to record from my turntable

[Frank Ventura]

The problem is that your computer is setting the default sound device to the 
USB turntable when you plus it in. With your turntable unplugged set JFW to use 
your internal sound card.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of randy 
tijerina
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 11:14 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: I'm trying to record from my turntable

i am curious about another thing...jaws till stop speaking as soon as i 
plug in my uSB record playerthis is rediculous!.
where do i get this programme?
At 09:04 PM 8/30/2014, you wrote:
One program to use is mp3 direct cut.  It has a recording feature that 
does a nice job and best of all, it's free.

-Original Message- From: randy tijerina
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 8:20 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: I'm trying to record from my turntable

what's the best programm, then?
At 07:59 PM 8/30/2014, you wrote:
Sound recorder will only give you one minute.
- Original Message - From: randy tijerina 
rtijeri...@satx.rr.com
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:19 PM
Subject: I'm trying to record from my turntable


friends, I'm trying to record a record from my USb turntable.
is sound recorder a good programme to use?
I'm not gonna clean my records. I wanna just do a test file before i 
share with anyone. I'm using windows 7 home by the way.

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RE: How accessible is spotify?

[Frank Ventura]

How is the audio quality with Spodify? I use iTunes Radio all the time but, 
honestly there is a great deal of compression and/or low bit rate streaming in 
it. There is an obvious loss of audio quality.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of James Scholes
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:32 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: How accessible is spotify?

Samuel Wilkins wrote:
 I am actually having trouble using Spotifyfor the IPhone, as it will 
 not let me search for a song and just play it, I have to add it to my 
 playlist, and I can't guarantee that it will play the right song.  The 
 app I have is Spotify Music, which is free.  Am I using the right app?

No.  The app is simply called Spotify, and you need a Spotify Premium 
subscription to use it which currently costs £9.99 per month.  Free accounts 
are limited to the functionality you describe.
--
James Scholes
http://twitter.com/JamesScholes

RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks?

[Frank Ventura]

Does it work with any CD at all? Have you made any firewall changes?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:30 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title 
Tracks?

Okay...here;'s the latest: I uninstalled CDEX; then installed a later 
versionsame results!  I DON'T UNDERSTAND!  To the best of my knowledge, I 
am doing everything correctly (I have written my email where it's supposed to 
go) still..it says audio track 1; track 1...I must be stupid or something, for 
it seems to work for everybody else!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:14 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title 
Tracks?

I'm either down to that...or just trying to see what I can do with Windows 
Media; so far, no luck there as I cannot find something that says srip CD (I 
have a set of instructions that tell me that control-3 will put me where I need 
to be for ripping CDs with Windows Media.  However I have been through all the 
tabs and there's absolutely nothing indicating to me that I can rip a CD with 
this program either!  Totally frustrated!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Blackwell, 
Clifford
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:11 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title 
Tracks?

Maybe delete and reinstall?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 11:47 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title 
Tracks?

Well I'm either not understanding something, or it's just plain not working; it 
_still_ gives me audio track 1...and on and on and on; not what I want!
I don't understand why it used to work just fine, but now it's not!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Chris 
Skarstad
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:03 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title 
Tracks?

If it doesn't grab them automaticly, go to your cddb sub menu and arrow down to 
freedb batch query and press enter.  I bet you that'll do the trick.


On 6/24/2014 11:54 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 Yup; that's what my CDEX used to do too!  But that isn't what I found 
 yesterday afternoon (it said audio track 1 01 (and so it went like 
 that) I wouldn't think that the information on this particular CD 
 boxed set would
be
 hard to get info for!
 Tom Kaufman

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Chris Skarstad
 Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 10:51 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex
Title
 Tracks?

 When i ripped my last couple of cds about a month ago I didn't even 
 require the player program you guys are talking about. i just put the 
 cd in the drive, launched CDEX and just like magic, there they were, 
 the song titles properly in the right places.  Then I just hit f9 and 
 off it went, ripping to 320 k mp3.  Nice and fast.


 On 6/24/2014 2:29 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 So where do you get this player program from?  I know it _did_ work 
 not too terribly long ago, so I don't know what could be different!
 Tom Kaufman

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
 Alexandra
 Grünauer
 Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:47 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex
 Title
 Tracks?

 ...get a programme there that's called Player, download it, install it.
 This very blindfriendly program will let you grab the information 
 from Gracenote, then you could either rip to wav or ogg or export the
 information
 in the player.ini from which cdex is able to read it so you can also 
 rip into whatever formats cdex supports, i.e. mp3.

 Alexandra

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Tom Kaufman
 Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:19 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have 
 Cdex
 Title
 Tracks?

 So what you're saying is, go to the Gracenote site and...and then what?
 Afraid it's just not sinking in!
 Tom Kaufman

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Alexandra Grünauer
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 6:07 PM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have 
 

RE: better equalizer for iphone

[Frank Ventura]

Andre, are you listening to it via the internal speaker or attached to some 
sort of external sound system? I would think you would need an external EQ, but 
lets see what others say.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van 
Deventer
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 3:08 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org; National Accessibility Portal mailing list with 
topics focused on accessibility for users with visual disabilities.
Subject: better equalizer for iphone

Hi all

 

Is there some better kind of equalizer for the iphone available?  

 

I found the treble and bass boost to be very ineffective.  Is there some kind 
of accessible program which will give you better equalization options?

 

Andre

 

 

RE: 60 cycle hum/noise interference

[Frank Ventura]

True but in this case I verified that I am using the audio out jacks.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 4:27 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: 60 cycle hum/noise interference

You could also get very strong hum if you accidentally plugged into the video 
ports rather than audio on the TV.  

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Sunday, June 8, 2014 8:57 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: 60 cycle hum/noise interference

Tim, thanks. I took a quick look at Amazon and there are many and I think some 
are specific to car stereo. I really can't tell which one is correct for my 
situation.
Frank


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings
Sent: Sunday, June 8, 2014 8:41 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: 60 cycle hum/noise interference

Frank check Amazon.
On 6/8/2014 7:58 PM, Frank Ventura wrote:
 Hi all, when I plug the audio out (two rCA jacks) from my TV into my 
 mixer
I get a constant 60 cycle hum. I understand that a ground loop isolator might 
help this situation. Can anyone recommend one or point me in the direction of 
where I can buy one?
 Thanks
 Frank

RE: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever

[Frank Ventura]

I've owned quite a bit of Bose equipment in my time and each item left me, well 
.. lets say uninspiried. Lately, I have found a new hope in Klipsch. I like 
their quality and attention to how it actuality sounds. Everything from my 
small 2.1 computer system to the RF-82s that I now use in my sun room.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 1:46 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever

Check them out at a Bose store or at your Best Buy. I seem to recall that they 
are but don't really remember the Companion 2 system all that well.
When you see how little they are you'll understand the sound. I know you've 
seen and had them, so I say this more to those that haven't. They are really 
little. I got the Companion 5 system though. For what they are, they are epic.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dan 
Kerstetter
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 1:22 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever

I have to say I hope they're better than the companion 2.  I had a pair of 
those and got rid of them asap.  It was like listening to a boom box instead of 
something with full range.

Dan


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 9:36 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever

That sounds just about right. I don't know if that price  was exact It's not 
too far from what I recall US ppricing to be. I've heard them and they are 
good. I just preferred the Companion 5 multimedia speakers.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 5:51 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Fwd: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever

Hi!

This eMail is forwarded from another list I'm on, this list is an Australian 
eMail list so I don't know about pricing for these Bose speakers in the U.S.
so people may wish to check.

If you're looking for a set of computer speakers at a good value for money 
price then the set described here may be well worth the look given the price 
they're being sold for right now.


snip

 Hi all.
 
 Just wanted to let folks know about these awesome bose companion 2 
 series
iii speakers i've just bought.
 
 There 149 dollars at the bose store or the apple store or any other 
 good
re-tailer.
 
 Basically these are computer desktop speakers consisting of 2 small
desktop speakers no sub and very easy to connect up.
 
 There are only 4 cables and a single dial on the front for turning the
speakers on and for volume.
 
 There is also a 3.5 mm headphone  jack just below the on off volume
control and on the back you have inputs for the left speaker, a c power, the 
input for connecting a 3.5 mm cable then the other end of that cable connects 
to a pc mac iphone whatever you wish to power.
 
 The final input is an aux input for connecting to another device.
 
 Keep in mind these are not hi-fi speakers but if your looking for
something just for a pc or mac or a laptop, you can't go past the bose 
companion 2 series 3 speakres.
 
 These are the newest desktop speakers in the Bose lineup.
 
 Grab a pair today and enjoy crisp clear sound never heard from a pair 
 of
speakers this small.

snip

**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane

RE: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever

[Frank Ventura]

Dan, I have a Klipsch 2.1 powered system fed by the audio output of an Apple 
Airport Express. The system is hidden under a sofa table in my living room so 
it doesn't show.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dan 
Kerstetter
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 3:34 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever

I bought a set of klipsch speakers for $149 U.S.  It's a 2.1 system and, for 
the price, the range is great.  I have, however, found out since I've switched 
computers that you need a good sound card to drive them.

Just my two cents worth.

Dan


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve 
Jacobson
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 3:01 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever

I'm a little confused here.  Are you saying there are full-range speakers of 
the same size and price?  How does one define full-range?  In my experience, it 
is very rare that one can simply choose between full-range and boombox sound 
with size and price remaining constant.  I have not heard the Bose Companion 
series so I don't know if I would like them or not, but there are times when I 
have found a good boombox sound to be acceptable when the speakers fit into a 
tight space or when they were being used by people who might not be careful 
with them.  I also still use a set of thirty-year-old Freid floor standing 
speakers which were considered full range and enjoy them as well.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 03:38:38 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote:

I'm not at all surprised if what you said also applied to these 
speakers to be honest, let's put it this way,
there are some people who have gorwn up with a Boombox sound, and they know 
nothing better, that's their thing of course, so long as they're happy then 
that's what matters but there's far better audio quality out there than 
Boombox audio.



Dane Trethowan's iPhone at +61400494862 has had the privlidge of 
delivering
the above eMail to you.


 On 10 Jun 2014, at 3:22 am, Dan Kerstetter dh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I have to say I hope they're better than the companion 2.  I had a 
 pair of those and got rid of them asap.  It was like listening to a 
 boom box instead of something with full range.
 
 Dan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Hamit Campos
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 9:36 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever
 
 That sounds just about right. I don't know if that price  was exact 
 It's not too far from what I recall US ppricing to be. I've heard 
 them and they are good. I just preferred the Companion 5 multimedia
speakers.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 5:51 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Fwd: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever
 
 Hi!
 
 This eMail is forwarded from another list I'm on, this list is an 
 Australian eMail list so I don't know about pricing for these Bose
speakers in the U.S.
 so people may wish to check.
 
 If you're looking for a set of computer speakers at a good value for 
 money price then the set described here may be well worth the look 
 given the price they're being sold for right now.
 
 
 snip
 
 Hi all.
 
 Just wanted to let folks know about these awesome bose companion 2 
 series
 iii speakers i've just bought.
 
 There 149 dollars at the bose store or the apple store or any other 
 good
 re-tailer.
 
 Basically these are computer desktop speakers consisting of 2 small
 desktop speakers no sub and very easy to connect up.
 
 There are only 4 cables and a single dial on the front for turning 
 the
 speakers on and for volume.
 
 There is also a 3.5 mm headphone  jack just below the on off volume
 control and on the back you have inputs for the left speaker, a c 
 power, the input for connecting a 3.5 mm cable then the other end of 
 that cable connects to a pc mac iphone whatever you wish to power.
 
 The final input is an aux input for connecting to another device.
 
 Keep in mind these are not hi-fi speakers but if your looking for
 something just for a pc or mac or a laptop, you can't go past the 
 bose companion 2 series 3 speakres.
 
 These are the newest desktop speakers in the Bose lineup.
 
 Grab a pair today and enjoy crisp clear sound never heard from a 
 pair of
 speakers this small.
 
 snip
 
 **
 
 Dane Trethowan
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Klipsch, was:RE: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever

[Frank Ventura]

Vicki, here is the web site:
http://www.klipsch.com/
We are in the process of remodeling our sun room which is our primary media 
room. The room is 15' x 10', and has large glass windows on three sides. We are 
going to use the following audio equipment:
(4) Klipsch RF-82 Speakers
(2) Klipsch SW-110 Subwoofers
(1) SB120 as a front channel speaker
Right now we are powering it with an Audiosource AMP 310 until we can find a 
better amplifier.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 9:39 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever

Would you give me a bit more information on Klipsch? I would like to look it up 
and get more information.

Many Thanks! Vicky

-Original Message-
From: Frank Ventura
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 7:25 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever

I've owned quite a bit of Bose equipment in my time and each item left me, well 
.. lets say uninspiried. Lately, I have found a new hope in Klipsch. I like 
their quality and attention to how it actuality sounds. Everything from my 
small 2.1 computer system to the RF-82s that I now use in my sun room.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 1:46 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever

Check them out at a Bose store or at your Best Buy. I seem to recall that they 
are but don't really remember the Companion 2 system all that well.
When you see how little they are you'll understand the sound. I know you've 
seen and had them, so I say this more to those that haven't. They are really 
little. I got the Companion 5 system though. For what they are, they are epic.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dan 
Kerstetter
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 1:22 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever

I have to say I hope they're better than the companion 2.  I had a pair of 
those and got rid of them asap.  It was like listening to a boom box instead of 
something with full range.

Dan


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 9:36 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever

That sounds just about right. I don't know if that price  was exact It's not 
too far from what I recall US ppricing to be. I've heard them and they are 
good. I just preferred the Companion 5 multimedia speakers.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 5:51 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Fwd: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever

Hi!

This eMail is forwarded from another list I'm on, this list is an Australian 
eMail list so I don't know about pricing for these Bose speakers in the U.S.
so people may wish to check.

If you're looking for a set of computer speakers at a good value for money 
price then the set described here may be well worth the look given the price 
they're being sold for right now.


snip

 Hi all.

 Just wanted to let folks know about these awesome bose companion 2 
 series
iii speakers i've just bought.

 There 149 dollars at the bose store or the apple store or any other 
 good
re-tailer.

 Basically these are computer desktop speakers consisting of 2 small
desktop speakers no sub and very easy to connect up.

 There are only 4 cables and a single dial on the front for turning the
speakers on and for volume.

 There is also a 3.5 mm headphone  jack just below the on off volume
control and on the back you have inputs for the left speaker, a c power, the 
input for connecting a 3.5 mm cable then the other end of that cable connects 
to a pc mac iphone whatever you wish to power.

 The final input is an aux input for connecting to another device.

 Keep in mind these are not hi-fi speakers but if your looking for
something just for a pc or mac or a laptop, you can't go past the bose 
companion 2 series 3 speakres.

 These are the newest desktop speakers in the Bose lineup.

 Grab a pair today and enjoy crisp clear sound never heard from a pair 
 of
speakers this small.

snip

**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane

RE: recommended USB mixers

[Frank Ventura]

Armando, many of the USB mixers I have heard of don't get great reviews. You 
may be better with a standard studio mixer with its output connected to a USB 
sound card.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Armando 
Maldonado
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 1:09 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: recommended USB mixers

Hello, I am wondering, what is the best USB mixer you can recommend for 
podcasting purposes? I am wanting to do podcasts but I do not have proper 
equipment to podcast with including the ability to connect multiple devices 
such as my macs and being able to speak in. in the past, I have used either my 
brailleNote Apex, victor reader and an iPad with iRecorder. Much assistance 
would be appreciated, thanks.

Best,
Armando

RE: Question?

[Frank Ventura]

The TV brand really doesn't matter. Get an Apple TV and hook it up to that 
Samsung (or any) TV and use Airplay to stream your media to the TV.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 11:12 PM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Question?

I'm planning to get a new TV.  Some people say that Samsung is good, but 
Samsung makes Android smart phones.  I plan on getting an IPhone.  If anybody 
has one, will the IPHone work with that TV  I question it, because of the fact 
that Samsung makes an Android smart phone.  

RE: Question?

[Frank Ventura]

Don, I know some of the new Samsung TV's have some accessibility built in but I 
wasn't aware of the Panasonic. Do you know what model was available here in the 
US?
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Don Ball
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 2:12 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question?

I would hold off if I could if you are in the US. It sounds like we are on the 
edge of a cliff of total accessability with tvs and set top boxes. Com cast is 
talking total accessability with in the next year and Panasonic Has made a 
totally accessible tv in the last two years.
I hope we get a better answer here than I had but I would weight a while.

- Original Message -
From: Gary Wood k8...@att.net
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 11:11 PM
Subject: Question?


I'm planning to get a new TV.  Some people say that Samsung is good, but 
Samsung makes Android smart phones.  I plan on getting an IPhone.  If 
anybody has one, will the IPHone work with that TV  I question it, because 
of the fact that Samsung makes an Android smart phone. 

60 cycle hum/noise interference

[Frank Ventura]

Hi all, when I plug the audio out (two rCA jacks) from my TV into my mixer I 
get a constant 60 cycle hum. I understand that a ground loop isolator might 
help this situation. Can anyone recommend one or point me in the direction of 
where I can buy one?
Thanks
Frank

RE: 60 cycle hum/noise interference

[Frank Ventura]

Tim, thanks. I took a quick look at Amazon and there are many and I think some 
are specific to car stereo. I really can't tell which one is correct for my 
situation.
Frank


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings
Sent: Sunday, June 8, 2014 8:41 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: 60 cycle hum/noise interference

Frank check Amazon.
On 6/8/2014 7:58 PM, Frank Ventura wrote:
 Hi all, when I plug the audio out (two rCA jacks) from my TV into my mixer I 
 get a constant 60 cycle hum. I understand that a ground loop isolator might 
 help this situation. Can anyone recommend one or point me in the direction of 
 where I can buy one?
 Thanks
 Frank

RE: Need help with Windows Media Player

[Frank Ventura]

Jeff, I haven't used WMP in ages but I remember accidentally muting it many 
times. Might be something to check.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Samco
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 5:31 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Need help with Windows Media Player

Windows Media Player has been my default player for a long time on my Windows 7 
laptop. IN the last week I noticed it no longer plays any
MP3 files I press Enter on. Coincidentally, about the same time I have 
subscribed to the eMusic web service. WMP still comes up but the track is not 
played. I have tried forcing play with Ctrl-P and also going into the menus. I 
have also poked around all the menus but didn't see anything obvious that 
needed a setting to be changed.

Any suggestions on how to further trouble shoot this?
Thanks,
Jeff

RE: listen to music in surrround sound

[Frank Ventura]

Matt, that is exactally what some of the Dolby, Logic and Pro Logic digital 
signal processing  are supposed to simulate; and for the most part they do a 
pretty lousy job.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Chao
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:57 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound

Hi, Folks.  Another point:  not all music is formatted to be actually 
surround-sound playable.  For example, you may have a surround-sound system, 
but the CD may not have all the surround-sound channels.

Matthew Chao

At 09:17 AM 5/26/2014, you wrote:
Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on  
how to listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in  
surround sound that is your prefference.  I used to have a pioneer  
surround sound system it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to  
music in surround sound I liked the concert hall effect and all of  the 
seperation and the acoostic effects.  in my opinion that is the  only 
to listen to music in full surround sound you just can't get  that kind 
of sound from stereo speakers iI do like to hear good  stereo speakers 
but there is no compearason to listening to music  in surroundsound.
On 5/26/2014 2:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a point.

Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening, 
you're better off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo 
speakers for doing things like that and here's their point, for the 
cost of a surround-sound system you can buy better sound stereo amp 
and speakers.

In short, surround-sound is for entertaining and enjoyable listening.


On 26 May 2014, at 4:52 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

Well it's too bad some people are like that.  I don't think 
audiophiles would like surround sound.  Someone told me once that 
when you add more speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is 
some loss of quality. Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer 
with one piece of equipment I had, but when I bought surround sound, 
the equalizer made things sound distored, so I quit using it.  
Audiophiles don't like graphic equalizers.
- Original Message - From: Hamit Campos 
hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 AM
Subject: RE: Bose Soundlink 3


I know audiophiles don't like them. I've seen it on youtube. 
People make fun
of people, people say the no highs, no lows, it must be Bose joke, 
and hell, I've even seen death threats.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:11 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3

As much as Bose users won't like to hear it, you won't find a Bose 
system or product mentioned in an audiophile magazine but that's 
nice to say their products are cheap, nasty and rubbish because that 
just isn't the case.

The products are reasonable at worst and the company is very good to 
deal with, or it is here at any rate.

I've been able to try before I buy the products I have in my own 
home, there was one product I didn't like and I told Bose so after 
the trial, they made arrangements to pick the product up from me and 
I was given a refund of the purchase price, no questions asked.

I had a problem with my Bose Soundlink Air and a pickup of the old 
and delivery of the new replacement was arranged, again no questions 
asked, no hitches etc, I just had to identify who I was.


On 25 May 2014, at 4:08 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

I guess people say that you get what you pay for, and maybe it's 
worth it.  - Original Message - From: Mary Otten
maryot...@comcast.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:25 PM
Subject: Bose Soundlink 3


I wonder if anybody on list owns this speaker from Bose. It costs $300.
I saw one briefly last evening at the Verizon store, as I was 
purchasing my new iPhone and was pretty impressed with the sound, 
given the size of the box. I really haven't looked all that much 
in to this sort of speaker. I have an older dock that works with 
the older style iPhone connectors, and it really sounds pretty 
good, but my better half has sort of taken it over for use in his 
class-room.
So I'd like to know from those who have experienced this 
equipment, what did you think, and are there other units you'd 
recommend as good competition? I like the size and the volume and 
depth of sound, but am not thrilled with the $300 price tag, naturally.
Mary

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RE: listen to music in surround sound

[Frank Ventura]

Dane and all, I see the argument both ways. Many people prefer the way surround 
sound envelopes the listener. However some folks prefer the way stereo 
replicates the way most music was intended to sound. There is always a hybrid 
as well. We have a small den in the lower level of our house. I used a few odds 
and ends to be able to stream music )via airplay) from my iPhone or iPad. I 
have output from an airport express plumbed into an old Audio Source amp with 
four speaker outputs. Two on the left side channel and two on the right side 
channel. With two speaks in front of me and two behind it does a reasonably 
good job at enveloping the listener in sound given the small room size but it 
is still just 2 channel stereo. I was playing some old Kiss songs on it 
yesterday and you can really hear the stereo effects they used when one channel 
is playing then the other comes in. I think the lead guitar was on one channel 
and the bass and drums came in on the other.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 7:59 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound

If you like listening to music through a surround-sound system with a DSP 
effect then fine! and you're underlining the point that an audiophile is 
making, you're listening to music in a way that wasn't normally intended for it 
to be listened to so the argument then goes that - because of the extra 
artificial effect applied by the DSP - you're not able to fully appreciate the 
purity of the music, quality of the music etc that you would otherwise 
experience from a better quality 2 channel system.

There are exceptions to the rule of course and I'm talking here of quad 
recordings or SACD etc but again these are not very common and aren't in 
mainstream music recordings, you don't see Quad FM nowadays or you don't see 
SACD recordings in large numbers at your local record shops.


On 27 May 2014, at 9:40 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

 Well John, I also find music in surround sound preferable than just stereo 
 for the reasons you mentioned, for the enveloping quality of music done that 
 way.
 - Original Message - From: John Gurd j.g...@ntlworld.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:16 PM
 Subject: RE: listen to music in surround sound
 
 
 I often listen to music in surround sound effect for the sheer 
 enveloping fun of it even though there can be a little loss in 
 quality. I have a fairly old but very good home theatre set up with 
 Bours  Wilkins media wall speakers and a Linn Sizmik subwoofer with 
 an Arcam AV600 receiver. Although stereo sounds more dynamic and 
 accurate I often listen to music in surround sound simulation because 
 it does it so well and is kind of magical. A really good Blue ray 
 movie is so involving I've sometimes turned audio description off to 
 get the full effect. The only music recording I have in genuine 5.1 
 is a recently acquired Pure Audio remaster of the Genesis album 
 Selling England by The Pound. It's wonderful. I can't understand why more 
 great albums haven't been done this way.
 
 I've also got an old Logitec Z5500 5.1 speaker set attached to my PC 
 and with that system the surround simulation is far preferable to 
 normal stereo because otherwise there's no real depth to the music.
 
 To be honest, though, for convenience, most of the time I just stream 
 audio from my PC or iPhone while I do other things. Incidentally, my 
 pet hate at the moment is the way so many modern recordings have the 
 volume compressed so that all the music is exactly the same level. 
 I'm always trying to turn the music up to try to squeeze a bit more 
 dynamic range out of it which of course doesn't really work.
 
 John
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Gary Wood
 Sent: 26 May 2014 16:19
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound
 
 I'm sure nobody.
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:36 AM
 Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound
 
 
 And who has said that it wasn't?
 
 On 27 May 2014, at 12:35 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 That may be true, but it's still a matter of choice, I believe.
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 8:19 AM
 Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound
 
 
 The fact is - whether we like it or not - 99% of the recorded music 
 on the
 
 Planet was never recorded for surround-sound systems, it was either 
 recorded in stereo or Mono.
 
 
 On 26 May 2014, at 11:17 pm, brian sackrider n8...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it 

RE: listen to music in surround sound

[Frank Ventura]

Mary, ah now there is the difference. Most of were talking about commercially 
available music recordings which by nature are stereo and no matter what signal 
processing goes on are still meant to be a stereo recording. A concert hall is 
a much different experience. I once had a high end Harmon-Kardon a/v receiver 
with several different concert hall DSP options. With a 5.1 surround system it 
was quite the effect. However not being into that type of thing myself I didn't 
go that route when I moved to this house. 
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 10:22 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound

I haven't had the ability to listen in surround sound for a long time.
Indeed, most of my experience was with an analog system years ago, made by ADS. 
And it was awesome. I also had the Carver sonic holography unit, which was 
good, but not as good as the ads, which actually required two speakers in the 
rear. The thing is, if you like classical music, full orchestra etc, there is 
no way you get anything approaching a concert hall experience with two stereo 
speakers, unless there is some magic happening in the background, ala the 
Carver holography. I have been impressed with Polk Audio in the past and also 
with the Magna planar speakers, which I really wanted in the worst way. Talk 
about 3-dimensional sound! But the listening environment demanded by that set 
up is not one that your average guy or gal can manage. That's why I'
m intrigued by sound bars and various digital signal processing techniques. I 
want to simulate the concert hall experience in my living-room. And 2 speakers 
will never do that.

Mary

RE: listen to music in surround sound

[Frank Ventura]

This is true. I remember listening to an interview with an audio engineer who 
was describing recording a boys choir in a cathedral in England. He said they 
used 35 microphones but ultimately once it was mixed into a stereo recording it 
just didn't compare to what it would sound like live.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 10:43 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound

Even so, music for the most part is not recorded to take advantage of the 
concert hall effect, even on our classical stations here its just recorded in 
plain old fashioned stereo and I ought to know smile.


On 27 May 2014, at 12:38 pm, Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net wrote:

 Yes, of course, the audio source is on the stage, which is in front of 
 you. But your living-room does not come close to approximating the 
 dimensions of even a small concert hall. So that's where the dsp and 
 magic of multiple speakers comes in. I don't pretend to know how they 
 do it. But I know that even my old ADS analog time delay system did 
 wonderous things for lps of classical music. It came a lot closer to 
 the concert hall experience than just a two-channel set up in my 
 living-room.
 
 Mary
 
 On Tue, 27 May 2014 12:30:11 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 
 What you say about the concert hall is right however, in a concert hall the 
 audio is usually in the front of you, that's where the stage is as far as 
 I'm away so that's where the audio usually comes from.
 
 The same applies when listening in stereo, the speakers are usually in front 
 of you for good stereo listening.
 
 The old analogue Surround-Sound? I still have my original Denon AVR2000 
 which supported all the Quad modes for front left-right and rear left-right 
 but for the most part the recordings made were not true surround-sound or 
 quad back then, some sort of DSP was needed to decode the source to generate 
 the effect.
 
 We've progressed to the point where each channel - in true Surround-Sound or 
 Quad mode - has its own path to each speaker which was unheard of say 20 
 years ago.
 
 If you look at the more expensive Surround-Sound receivers you may even see 
 direct analogue connections for each channel, the cheaper receivers use the 
 HDMI connection to decode each channel digitally.
 
 I have a whole heap of CD'S - SACD, Quad and Video Audio - which make full 
 use of the direct channel paths, the Quad CD'S I did myself, I mastered them 
 from Quad Carts - the old 8 track cartridges, versions of them came out that 
 used a track for each channel in the quad recording -.
 
 
 On 27 May 2014, at 12:21 pm, Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I haven't had the ability to listen in surround sound for a long time.
 Indeed, most of my experience was with an analog system years ago, 
 made by ADS. And it was awesome. I also had the Carver sonic 
 holography unit, which was good, but not as good as the ads, which 
 actually required two speakers in the rear. The thing is, if you 
 like classical music, full orchestra etc, there is no way you get 
 anything approaching a concert hall experience with two stereo 
 speakers, unless there is some magic happening in the background, 
 ala the Carver holography. I have been impressed with Polk Audio in 
 the past and also with the Magna planar speakers, which I really 
 wanted in the worst way. Talk about 3-dimensional sound! But the 
 listening environment demanded by that set up is not one that your average 
 guy or gal can manage. That's why I'
 m intrigued by sound bars and various digital signal processing 
 techniques. I want to simulate the concert hall experience in my 
 living-room. And 2 speakers will never do that.
 
 Mary
 
 
 
 
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5.1 Stereo Amp to connect to my sound card

[Frank Ventura]

Hi all I would like to know if anyone knows of a high quality, accessible, high 
end 5.1 stereo amp that can take the output from my sound card and convert it 
into 5 stereo channels and one subwoofer output? Cost is not an object.
Thanks
Frank

RE: 5.1 Stereo Amp to connect to my sound card

[Frank Ventura]

Hi Dane, do you know what the model number of that other receiver that another 
list member got?
Thanks
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 6:01 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: 5.1 Stereo Amp to connect to my sound card

You've plenty of options here smile.

There's another list member who has a Denon receiver which will do what you 
want, he got the high end model at a bargain price, I'm green with envy smile.

I have the Denon AVR2113, I last saw this model for $500 which is a steal if 
you can still get the thing.

The AVR2113 has a HTML Interface so settings are easy to change.

The receiver has 6 HDMI inputs and 2 digital inputs so you don't even need to 
consider the sound device that your computer is equipped with, I just run a 
lead from the HDMI output of my computer to the receiver, 1 lead, 1 connection 
and that's it! up to 8 channels of high quality audio and HD 4K video if 
required.


On 25 May 2014, at 7:52 am, Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com 
wrote:

 Hi all I would like to know if anyone knows of a high quality, accessible, 
 high end 5.1 stereo amp that can take the output from my sound card and 
 convert it into 5 stereo channels and one subwoofer output? Cost is not an 
 object.
 Thanks
 Frank
 


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Re: 5.1 stereo amps to connect to a sound card

[Frank Ventura]

Any links to any that may be recommened?
On Jul 1, 2012, at 6:02 PM, HHamit Campos wrote:

 Actually Creative Labs, the guys that make the Sound Blaster cards make some
 systems too.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback
 Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 9:11 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: 5.1 stereo amps to connect to a sound card
 
 first off, to the best of my knowledge, a single stereo jack, or 2 RCA
 plugs, are not going to carry a full 5.1 signal, as you would then be asking
 a stereo connection, normally for 2 speakers, to carry a 6 speaker signal,
 which is what 5.1 is. it needs either 3 stereo jacks, 6 RCA plugs, or a
 digital connection.
 
 the only thing I can think of that comes reasonably close to what you are
 looking for, is the logitech z-5500 speaker system.
 it doesn't have all the ins and outs of a full home cinema amp, but does
 have 2 digital inputs, an analog input on 3 stereo jacks, and it does have a
 single stereo jack input, which you could try using, but I personally doubt
 that you will get full 5.1 through it.
 a few other points of this system are:
 1. the controls and connections, are mounted on a remote wired pod, which is
 ideal if not a lot of space is available.
 2. apart from the sub, the speakers are quite small, but still give a very
 good sound.
 and 3. apart from the sub, all other speakers can be stand or wall mounted
 super easily, thanks to there swiveling stands.
 it also has a remote control.
 the only thing I had to say against the system, being a bit of an
 audiophile, is that it could have been supplied with better quality speaker
 cable.
 apart from that, it is a very good system for those who haven't got room
 for, or who just don't want all the bells and whistles of a full home cinema
 amp.
 for example, I got mine after a move gone wrong, when I had to downsize a
 bit, but still wanted a decent 5.1 sound system for my tv. and like I said,
 apart from the not very good speaker cable supplied, which I changed, I have
 got no complaints.
 
 hope this helps.
 
 Simon
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 3:57 PM
 Subject: 5.1 stereo amps to connect to a sound card
 
 
 Hi all, can anyone recommend a good 5.1 amplifier to connect to a sound card
 
 with ehther a single 1/8 stereo output or preferably two RCA jacks. Nothing 
 with a built in receiver or multiple inputs just a good high quality, high 
 power amplifier to compliment an average sound card.
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Re: 5.1 stereo amps to connect to a sound card

[Frank Ventura]

Can you tell me which ones you have been checking out. Price isnt much of a 
concern.
thanks
Frank
On Jul 2, 2012, at 12:29 AM, Robert Logue wrote:

 I bet you are trying to use your computer as a surround audio system.  I've 
 been checking out the options and haven't found reasonably priced surround 
 amps.  They tend to cost more than recievers even though they are simpler. 
 I think it's because they aren't so popular.
 
 I've chosen to look for real good powered speakers instead but again, the 
 industry doesn't produce many high end speakers for general listening.  They 
 are either, cheep pc speakers, pc gamer speakers with lots of bass and 
 sparckle, or near field studio monitors.
 
 Bob
 
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 From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:57 AM
 Subject: 5.1 stereo amps to connect to a sound card
 
 
 Hi all, can anyone recommend a good 5.1 amplifier to connect to a sound 
 card with ehther a single 1/8 stereo output or preferably two RCA jacks. 
 Nothing with a built in receiver or multiple inputs just a good high 
 quality, high power amplifier to compliment an average sound card.
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Re: 5.1 stereo amps to connect to a sound card

[Frank Ventura]

Thanks, this sounds like a good recommendation.
Frank
On Jun 30, 2012, at 9:10 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote:

 first off, to the best of my knowledge, a single stereo jack, or 2 RCA 
 plugs, are not going to carry a full 5.1 signal, as you would then be asking 
 a stereo connection, normally for 2 speakers, to carry a 6 speaker signal, 
 which is what 5.1 is. it needs either 3 stereo jacks, 6 RCA plugs, or a 
 digital connection.
 
 the only thing I can think of that comes reasonably close to what you are 
 looking for, is the logitech z-5500 speaker system.
 it doesn't have all the ins and outs of a full home cinema amp, but does 
 have 2 digital inputs, an analog input on 3 stereo jacks, and it does have a 
 single stereo jack input, which you could try using, but I personally doubt 
 that you will get full 5.1 through it.
 a few other points of this system are:
 1. the controls and connections, are mounted on a remote wired pod, which is 
 ideal if not a lot of space is available.
 2. apart from the sub, the speakers are quite small, but still give a very 
 good sound.
 and 3. apart from the sub, all other speakers can be stand or wall mounted 
 super easily, thanks to there swiveling stands.
 it also has a remote control.
 the only thing I had to say against the system, being a bit of an 
 audiophile, is that it could have been supplied with better quality speaker 
 cable.
 apart from that, it is a very good system for those who haven't got room 
 for, or who just don't want all the bells and whistles of a full home cinema 
 amp.
 for example, I got mine after a move gone wrong, when I had to downsize a 
 bit, but still wanted a decent 5.1 sound system for my tv. and like I said, 
 apart from the not very good speaker cable supplied, which I changed, I have 
 got no complaints.
 
 hope this helps.
 
 Simon
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 3:57 PM
 Subject: 5.1 stereo amps to connect to a sound card
 
 
 Hi all, can anyone recommend a good 5.1 amplifier to connect to a sound card 
 with ehther a single 1/8 stereo output or preferably two RCA jacks. Nothing 
 with a built in receiver or multiple inputs just a good high quality, high 
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Hi all, can anyone recommend a good 5.1 amplifier to connect to a sound card 
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with a built in receiver or multiple inputs just a good high quality, high 
power amplifier to compliment an average sound card.
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RE: Accessibility of Harman Kardon 3390 and 3490 stereo receivers

[Frank Ventura]

Does anyone have a link to where this receiver (HK 3490) can be purchased 
online?

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On 
Behalf Of Dujari, Prateek
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 3:39 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Harman Kardon 3390 and 3490 stereo receivers

Thanks so much! I called JR, he pulled up and looked at the picture of the 
front panel and confirmed to me there are no touch screen or touch flat panel 
controls.  Which leads me to believe a blind person, once oriented, should be 
able to use the diff features.   


Prateek
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On 
Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:10 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Harman Kardon 3390 and 3490 stereo receivers

Hi to answer your questions on these two receivers.
If you live in the united states.
That is a place called Jr I want to ay music world or just Jr.
But here is there contact phone numbers.
So you can give them a call and ask them questions aobut each of these units 
and maybe they can give you some assistance or answers to your questions on 
these two units.
The contact phone numbers are as follows

Call our customer service department at:
1-800-426-6027
1-718-340-0397
Monday - Friday: 9:00AM - 6:00PM EST
Saturday: 9:00AM - 5:00PM EST
For product inquires or to order by phone, 7 days a week Call our sales 
department at:
1-800-806-1115
1-718-340-0406
Monday - Friday: 7:30AM - 9:00PM EST
Saturday - Sunday: 8:00AM - 9:00PM EST
Corporate Division


So I hope that is some help for you.



On 5/7/2012 5:03 PM, Dujari, Prateek wrote:
 thanks and I find Brian's response unhelpful.  Pl refer to mpost which 
 specifically refers to the HK 3390 and 3490.  ;. response


 Prateek

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen
 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:55 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Accessibility of Harman Kardon 3390 and 3490 stereo 
 receivers

 Hi their newer stuff is inaccessible.
 for example their bds770.

 Brian

 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 From: Casey
 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:30 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Accessibility of Harman Kardon 3390 and 3490 stereo 
 receivers

 Hi I am currently using the Harman Kardon 3480 stereo receiver.
 I am totaly blind and I find the controls are easy to on my unit.
 I don't know what impairments that you may have.
 But the controls are nicely laid out on my receiver so can you please 
 let me know what kind of set up you are looking for.
 Since I own one of these Harman Kardon units and might be able to 
 answer some of your questions.



 On 5/7/2012 2:09 PM, Dujari, Prateek wrote:
 hello all.

 If you have used or use the HK 3390 or 3490 stereo receivers by 
 Harman Kardon, how accessible are all the controls and buttons on the front?
 Being totally blind tactile front panel with clearly felt buttons and 
 knobs and any other sort of control is crucial for me.

 Thanks much
 Prateek

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Two computers and two other audio sources

[Frank Ventura]

Hi all, I need recommendations on a good, simple, 4 channel (or more) stereo 
mixer and where it can be bought here in the US. What I am trying to do is mix 
the outputs from two computers and two other stereo sources all using either 
1/8 or 1/4 plugs into one mixer and get one line level output. I would like 
something simple with sliders, not knobs. Any advise and recommendations would 
be much appreciated.
Tia
Frank


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Using Tagalicious to fix music tags

[Frank Ventura]

Hi all, I would like to use Tagalicious to check the metadata of the
music in my music library. I have a few questions. If the music is
stored on a network share and accessed from a few computers running
ITunes will I have to add all of the music to each ITunes library and
run Tagalicious on each machine or can I do it once and the music on the
network share will be updated? Also is there a meand of doing the entire
library at one time? In the list of songs can I do a command plus a to
select all and have the entire library searched at once? There are over
1000 songs in total and would lkike to make it as much of a one step
operation as possible.
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Podcasts of interest to PC-Audio members?

[Frank Ventura]

Hi all are there any podcasts of interest  on the topics covered by this
list? Any favorites anyone?
Frank

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RE: Burning CD's with Windows XP [was Re: Recording Live AudioStreams]

[Frank Ventura]

The way I used to do it with XP was to go to the folder where I had the
files I wanted to burn to CD and copy all of them to the clipboard. Then
I would go into My Computer and open up the CD ROM drive (with no disk
inserted) and paste in the files. Then I would close that window and
reopen My Computer and arrow down to the CD Rom drive and press the
context menu (applications) key and one of the choices is Burn these
files to disk which would bring up the wizard. This works for CDs.
Evidentally XP does not support burning of DVDs natively, although I
think Win 7 does.
Frank

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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 6:29 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Burning CD's with Windows XP [was Re: Recording Live
AudioStreams]

But at least you're on the right track (I wonder how many folks know you
can 
even burn CDs with Windows XP)..there probably is a way around this
drag 
and drop thing (I actually have burned CDs using XP; the only thing I
ran 
into was getting it to put the tracks in the proper order!  I probably 
didn't do something right!
Tom Kaufman
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From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 6:19 PM
Subject: Burning CD's with Windows XP [was Re: Recording Live Audio 
Streams]


  It's been a while since I've burned any CD's with Windows XP, which
is 
 why I went looking for a sight that had some instructions on it. Since
it 
 talks about dragging and dropping files into a folder, I was assuming
you 
 had a Windows Explorer type interface and you could cut and paste
files 
 from your music folder into the staging area just like you do anywhere

 else in Windows Explorer. Hopefully someone else will have some more
blind 
 friendly instructions.

 --

 Christopher
 chalt...@gmail.com


 On 10/12/2010 2:20 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 The only problem I have with the information from Microsoft's page 
 concerning Burning CDs with XP..is that it seems to be giving the 
 instructions from a sighted viewpoint (it talks about dragging and 
 dropping files..and I'm just not sure of how you'd do this with a
screen 
 reader!  Maybe someone on here would care to enlighten me on how this
is 
 done?
 Tom Kaufman
 - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain 
 chalt...@gmail.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 6:54 AM
 Subject: RE: Recording Live Audio Streams


 You can use Windows XP or Windows Media Player to burn a CD. Some
good
 instructions on just using Windows XP's built in functionality can
be 
 found
 at

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/expert/bridgman_august13.
mspx
 .


 -- 
 Christopher
 chalt...@gmail.com


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 audio.org] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
 Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 12:55 AM
 To: PC audio discussion list.
 Subject: Recording Live Audio Streams

 Hello all list members,
 I have an audio question that involves the computer.
 But however, I'm not asking for myself, I am asking on the behalf
of a
 friend of mind.
 Here is her question.
 I would like to know if you can tell me how to burn a CD?  I am
asking
 because I want to get the music that family radio has and I would
like
 to get the music that Rewound radio has also.  Let me know how to
do
 it.  Okay?
 Thinks in advance!
 My best regards.
   John.
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RE: Looking for free software to remove copy protection from wma files

[Frank Ventura]

I have used Sound Taxi to convert DRM material before but it wasn't free it 
cost me about $25 if I remember correctly.
Frank

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Subject: Re: Looking for free software to remove copy protection from wma files

Hi
I think Sound Taxi does this for WMA files.
Gordon McFarlane

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Batch file conversions in Sound Taxi

[Frank Ventura]

Hi all does anyone know if Sound Taxi can do batch file conversions? For
example if I have a folder called Music with ten sub folders in it; can
I point sound taxi to the Music folder and have it convert all files in
the subfolders? If so how?
Thanks
Frank

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RE: Streaming advice needed

[Frank Ventura]

Go to http://whatismyip.com and determine your external IP address. Then
forward what ever port number you are using from your firewall to the
computer you're streaming from.
Frank

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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 11:43 PM
To: PC-Audio
Subject: Streaming advice needed

Hi all,

I am trying to stream from my PC.  I have installed the Shoutcast DNAS
server and the Shoutcast plugin for Winamp.

If I use the modem IP address of 192.168.0.1, I can stream to my laptop
over my local network, but if I use the DNS server IP 
address (which I get from ipconfig/all at the command prompt), I can't
connect from my laptop and neither can a friend who I got to 
try it remotely.

Is there something else I need to do?  Do I need to use a different IP
address and if so, where do I find out what it is?

I am only wanting to be able to stream to one or two friends, so I am
not interested in paying to access a remote server.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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Converting ACC to MP3 with Itunes

[Frank Ventura]

Hello all, I have about 200 songs that I have downloaded in the PC
version of ITunes. I assume they are in ACC format. I would like to be
able to convert them  to a format that will play on my VR stream (MP3?).
What is the easiest means of accomplishing this?
Thanks
Frank

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RE: Converting ACC to MP3 with Itunes

[Frank Ventura]

Hi thanks, would the stream need that fifty dollar software upgrade or
will it work with just the default stream software, assuming the latest
version.
Thanks
Frank


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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:40 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Converting ACC to MP3 with Itunes

Hi!

With the new software upgrade doesn't the Stream handle the playing of
Itunes unprotected content? If so then all you need do is transfer your
content across to the Music folder on the SD memory card used by your
stream.


On 28/07/2010, at 6:15 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:

 Hello all, I have about 200 songs that I have downloaded in the PC 
 version of ITunes. I assume they are in ACC format. I would like to be

 able to convert them  to a format that will play on my VR stream
(MP3?).
 What is the easiest means of accomplishing this?
 Thanks
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RE: Converting ACC to MP3 with Itunes

[Frank Ventura]

Thanks, I may give Goldwave a try.

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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dave McElroy WA6BEF
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:19 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Converting ACC to MP3 with Itunes

Ank do you happen to have Goldwave?  If so it *might* (and I emphasize
the
word might, comvert those files for you.  I can tell you that GW got me
out
of a jam where a movie file I have wouldn't play.  I created an MP3 of
it
and voila!  

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Subject: Converting ACC to MP3 with Itunes

Hello all, I have about 200 songs that I have downloaded in the PC
version of ITunes. I assume they are in ACC format. I would like to be
able to convert them  to a format that will play on my VR stream (MP3?).
What is the easiest means of accomplishing this?
Thanks
Frank

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RE: Converting ACC to MP3 with Itunes

[Frank Ventura]

Thanks, will it play .m4a files as well as .acc files?
Thanks
Frank

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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:51 PM
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Subject: RE: Converting ACC to MP3 with Itunes

It's $49, but you will need it. 

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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:44 PM
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Subject: RE: Converting ACC to MP3 with Itunes

Hi thanks, would the stream need that fifty dollar software upgrade or
will
it work with just the default stream software, assuming the latest
version.
Thanks
Frank


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Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:40 PM
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Subject: Re: Converting ACC to MP3 with Itunes

Hi!

With the new software upgrade doesn't the Stream handle the playing of
Itunes unprotected content? If so then all you need do is transfer your
content across to the Music folder on the SD memory card used by your
stream.


On 28/07/2010, at 6:15 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:

 Hello all, I have about 200 songs that I have downloaded in the PC 
 version of ITunes. I assume they are in ACC format. I would like to be

 able to convert them  to a format that will play on my VR stream
(MP3?).
 What is the easiest means of accomplishing this?
 Thanks
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RE: Converting ACC to MP3 with Itunes

[Frank Ventura]

Can ITunes convert the files to .mp3? If so can it convert a large
number of files at the same time?
Tia
Frank

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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:54 PM
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Subject: Re: Converting ACC to MP3 with Itunes

In that case I'd use Itunes or another tool to convert the AAC to MP3, I
just refuse to pay any extra money for software to Human Ware, I paid
enough for the Stream as is, only my opinion of course and Human Wear
have really let Stream users down by charging extra for this sort of
thing.


On 28/07/2010, at 6:51 AM, Jamie Pauls wrote:

 It's $49, but you will need it. 
 
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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:44 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: RE: Converting ACC to MP3 with Itunes
 
 Hi thanks, would the stream need that fifty dollar software upgrade or
will
 it work with just the default stream software, assuming the latest
version.
 Thanks
 Frank
 
 
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 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:40 PM
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 Subject: Re: Converting ACC to MP3 with Itunes
 
 Hi!
 
 With the new software upgrade doesn't the Stream handle the playing of
 Itunes unprotected content? If so then all you need do is transfer
your
 content across to the Music folder on the SD memory card used by your
 stream.
 
 
 On 28/07/2010, at 6:15 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
 
 Hello all, I have about 200 songs that I have downloaded in the PC 
 version of ITunes. I assume they are in ACC format. I would like to
be
 
 able to convert them  to a format that will play on my VR stream
 (MP3?).
 What is the easiest means of accomplishing this?
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RE: manual in accessible format for mackie 802 vlz3 mixer

[Frank Ventura]

If anyone has it I would like an accessible copy of the manual for this
mixer as well. Oddly enough the manual for the smaller 402 mixer is
accessible.

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Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:49 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: manual in accessible format for mackie 802 vlz3 mixer

I just bought this mixer and am trying to get a copy of the manual in
accesible format. I downloaded the pdf version but cannot read it
because of its security settings. Does anydyone have an accesible copy
of this  
manual they could send me. I would also be interested   in speaking with
anyone who could help me set up this 
mixer. Thanks. 

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RE: M AUDIO SOUND CARD QUESTION REPOST

[Frank Ventura]

Does any of the m-audio cards have 1/4 inputs?

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Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 6:44 AM
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Subject: Re: M AUDIO SOUND CARD QUESTION REPOST

hello, thanks, i'll check out the maudio site. i am looking to upgrade
from 
my creative soundcard to one of the m audio ones but i'm not sure yet
what 
one to get.

thanks les.

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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: M AUDIO SOUND CARD QUESTION REPOST


 High Less,
 They have all of their sound cards and other products posted on their 
 website.
 http://www.m-audio.com/
 I'm thinking about the Audio Phial-2496 because I'm getting 2 for the 
 price of 1.
 I get RCA inputs and outputs.
 And plus, I get a mixer that is integrated in to the control panel.
 Most everyday sound cards don't have that.
 And plus, I get a very big brake from the norm.
 My music and movies will sound a whole lot better then they do with my

 odyssey 4 series sound card made by Creative Labs.
 Also, my recordings will sound a whole lot better too as well.
 The only drawback is, there are no mike in jacks, so you'll need a
preamp 
 for your mike.
 My best regards.
  John.
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 Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 3:47 AM
 Subject: Re: M AUDIO SOUND CARD QUESTION REPOST


 hello, is the m audio delta 1010 there top of the line soundcard? or
is 
 there something above that one for quality and features. thanks for
the 
 tips. les.

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 From: Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 10:50 PM
 Subject: Re: M AUDIO SOUND CARD QUESTION REPOST


 John,

 I have two Windows XP computers using the Audiophile 24/96 card from
 M-Audio.  No, Jaws scripts are not needed to use them successfully
and
 fully accessibly.  The manual is not well written and I needed to
read
 it five times or so very thoroughly before I fully understood what I
 needed.  I also had a sighted person describe the interface on three
 different times before I got the hang of it.  I say all of this
 because I am used to reading manuals all the time and figuring
 products out.  I also am highly comfortable picking through legal
 statutes and regulations and analyzing them.  Somehow the Audiophile
 24/96 documentation was different.  The biggest concept I faced is
 that recording uses one interface configuration and optimal playing
of
 sound uses another interface configuration.  Additionally, the card
is
 adjusted on the fourth device slot rather than the first, which
threw
 me for a loop at first.

 I have been extremely pleased with this card and find it delivers
far
 superior sound compared to one of the Creative cards, which I had
with
 my first couple of computers.

 Kelly




 On 5/1/10, DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net wrote:
 I am reposting this question because I never got a response to
it.---
 Hello all list members,
 I am thinking about buying a couple of M-AUDIO audio phial-2496
sound 
 cards.
 I am buying them strictly for recording purposes.
 One of them is gonna be put in to my Windows machine, the other one
is 
 gonna
 be put in to my Mack system when I get it.
 But for the Windows machine, do I need Jaws scripts for the control

 panel to
 make it more assessable for me?
 And for the Mack machine, will Voiceover work with the control
panel 
 right
 out of the box?
 Thinks in advance!
 My best regards.
   John.
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Problems with ITunes (Windows) and creating an account

[Frank Ventura]

Hello all, when using ITunes in Windows with the latest version of JFW 11 is 
anyone else having issues setting up an account in the ITunes store? 
Specifically when trying to enter  information in an edit field JFW makes that 
sound as if forms mode is on but no test can be entered? Any suggestions?
tia
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RE: streaming music

[Frank Ventura]

I would really appreciate a link to the Duckstream program. Is it shareware?

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Behalf Of Jörgen Hansson
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 7:10 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: streaming music

Hi sunshine!
Duckstream is a streaming program which you can use for streaming to either 
a shoutcast or icecast server on. it's very very easy to use, and all you 
need to do is just set the server location, the server port, the password 
and so on. then, you can also choose which mp3 quality you'd like to use 
while streaming. and I think you can also use ogg.
I have that program in a zip file somewhere, so, if anybody wants it some 
time, please write me off list.
Regards,
Jörgen Hansson!
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www.jorgenhansson.com
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Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: streaming music


what is duckstream?
and where do i find it?

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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: streaming music


Hi dan!
I'm using duckstream as well, but what server are you streaming on?
well, I know that people are using winamp, and you can also use windows
media player, and you may even try sound forge or so.

Regards,
Jörgen Hansson!
Tel +46 703-601296
www.jorgenhansson.com
skype: djtropical4532
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Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:05 AM
Subject: streaming music


i am using duckstream to connect with shoutcast but need a simple mp3
playlist program.  I know some use winamp for this but are there other
suggesttions?
 thanks
 Dan

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RE: streaming music

[Frank Ventura]

What is your email address?

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On 
Behalf Of Jörgen Hansson
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:18 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: streaming music

Hi!
I got this program from a friend of mine when I was audissioning for ACB 
Radio in 2006, but I don't know where he got that program from. but as I 
said, write me off list and I will attach it to those who want the zip file.
Regards,
Jörgen Hansson!
Tel +46 703-601296
www.jorgenhansson.com
skype: djtropical4532
- Original Message - 
From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:58 PM
Subject: RE: streaming music


I would really appreciate a link to the Duckstream program. Is it shareware?

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] 
On Behalf Of Jörgen Hansson
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 7:10 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: streaming music

Hi sunshine!
Duckstream is a streaming program which you can use for streaming to either
a shoutcast or icecast server on. it's very very easy to use, and all you
need to do is just set the server location, the server port, the password
and so on. then, you can also choose which mp3 quality you'd like to use
while streaming. and I think you can also use ogg.
I have that program in a zip file somewhere, so, if anybody wants it some
time, please write me off list.
Regards,
Jörgen Hansson!
Tel +46 703-601296
www.jorgenhansson.com
skype: djtropical4532
- Original Message - 
From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: streaming music


what is duckstream?
and where do i find it?

- Original Message - 
From: Jörgen Hansson hansson.jo...@spray.se
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: streaming music


Hi dan!
I'm using duckstream as well, but what server are you streaming on?
well, I know that people are using winamp, and you can also use windows
media player, and you may even try sound forge or so.

Regards,
Jörgen Hansson!
Tel +46 703-601296
www.jorgenhansson.com
skype: djtropical4532
- Original Message - 
From: dan kysor danky...@comcast.net
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:05 AM
Subject: streaming music


i am using duckstream to connect with shoutcast but need a simple mp3
playlist program.  I know some use winamp for this but are there other
suggesttions?
 thanks
 Dan

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RE: It's Still Stealing

[Frank Ventura]

If I walk into my local public library and check out a book the
librarian doesn't tell me which room in my house I can or cannot read
the book in. However with BARD they restrict qualified persons as to
which player the must use. The government is buying tons of those new
digital players and someone is making tons of money building and selling
them to the government and someone in said government is receiving
incentives to continue this practice? So does anyone not think it is
all about money?


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:01 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

BARD is under the misguided impression that, even after you download
your
copy of a particular book, BARD still owns that copy. You have no legal
authority to do anything, considered legal or otherwise, with that copy.
Not
only is that incorrect, but it's also even more restrictive than even
the
most literally interpreted copyright law. Again, I'll use my example of
iTunes. You pay for a couple songs from iTunjes. They're now yours.
Apple no
longer owns those copies. You can put them on your iWhatever, burn them
to a
CD, do pretty much whatever you want with them. Not true with BARD. And
it's
business models like that that convince people to do things you would
call
stealing.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: April 18, 2010 11:51 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

but from Bard, which was your example, you don't have permission.
- Original Message -
From: mitchell mitchellgre...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing


 That's absulootly rite, but after you qualify for the servis, and down

 load
 the file you still don't return it so if this all rite then how is tom
or
 anyone who has someone's pramition to coppy a fyle then how is it 
 steeling?
 Mitchell

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of James Homuth
 Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:37 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

 Apple tried to do the exact same thing with their iTunes. They tried
 limitting exactly what type of player you could put their music etc on
in
 the same way BARD is. The reasons that didn't work are the exact same
 reasons BARD shouldn't be doing that either. If you get your hands on
 something, whether you have legal access to do so or not, you're going
to
 want to do whatever you want with that something. Either put it on a
CD, 
 or
 copy it to something smaller than your Victor Reader, or any number of
 things. And if someone wants to burn that book to a CD, or do
something 
 else
 with it that BARD has decided they're not allowed to, even though they

 have
 legal access to it, people are just going to find less legal means to
do 
 so.
 Rather than prop up and defend an out of date business model, people 
 should
 be pushing companies like BARD to get caught up with the rest of the
world
 and actually give people a choice as to what to do with their 
 acquisitions.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
 Sent: April 18, 2010 11:28 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

 But with Bard, you're not permitted to share and you have to qualify
for
 their service by being blind and having a player that they authroize. 
 There
 is a specific exception in the copyright law for Bard and Bookshare
type
 services.
 - Original Message -
 From: mitchell mitchellgre...@gmail.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:17 AM
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing


 I'm with you man, if it is steeling then why is it all rite to use
 bard with the book players, because you are downloading the books.
 Then you are not giving them back. Not a problem as far as I am
 concerned.
 Mitchell

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
 Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:09 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

 Ok, so you say, it's still stealing.
 Then you tell me, why are there still some websites that lets you
 download music and audio books without having to pay anything for it?
 Yes these sites still exist, and people are downloading music and
 audio books without having to pay a dime for it.
 Explain that one to me, if you can!
  John.
 - Original Message -
 From: Tom t...@pc-audio.org
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:49 AM
 Subject: It's Still Stealing


 It's 

RE: It's Still Stealing

[Frank Ventura]

That is where you are wrong. There are many folks whom have made very
handsome profits from BARD. Those players don't just fall from the sky
you know. They cost money to make and design and that is profit for
someone. Also the very existence of BARD is, and has always, been to
provide paid positions for some very connected blind folks. Think about
it. Why do we even need our own system of libraries? Hundreds of
thousands of local lending libraries throughout the US provide a range
of print, audio, visual, and electronic media to lend to the masses
every day without the same knee jerk concerns of copyright violation.
You can just as easily go to your local library and photocopy a book,
dub a audio tape or copy an overdrive book. Does the government think
blind folks are more predispositioned to piracy than ordinary folks,
that we need such extreme measures that the rest of our culture does
not? There is no reason why our nations infrastructure of lending
libraries could not be the venues for electronic media not just for the
sighted but blind alike but that would take payola out of the pockets of
quite a few blind folks now wouldn't it? Yes folks you cannot leave
profit out of this conversation, sad to say.


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 2:16 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

The reason in my mind is that you are signing up for a service provided
by
the US government. This service is free of charge, and you are agreeing
to
it's terms when you sign up for it. The law enabling this service aims
to
provide material free to the blind while protecting the rights of the
publishers. This program is intended for all blind citizens of the US
and
not just those with PC's. This is not a business or profit making
venture,
but is paid for by tax dollars, of which I'm a tax payer. Your analogies
to
Sony and Apple just don't apply. Even though we have the luxury of
keeping
the books around and playing them on multiple players, it doesn't change
the
fact that this is a library, and we're borrowing these books.

BTW, there is no way to listen to these books on a PC. You need a player
provided for free by the NLS or you can purchase several different book
players.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com

 


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:48 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

Kevin, the point is this. Why should you, after obtaining the NLS books,
have to go and get one of the NLS approved players just to enjoy the
privelege of being able to listen to the book while not at the computer?
That would be like Soni putting out an album with copy protection that
limitted what you could play it on to CD players manufactured by Soni.
Soni
already tried the whole copy protection to prevent people from putting
the
contents of CD's on their computers, or copying them to other CD's. A
pretty
high-profile lawsuit later, they don't do that anymore. Apple tried to
say
you could only put music you purchased from iTunes on your iPod. You
couldn't burn that to CD, or play it in anything else that wasn't either
your iPod or iTunes. Specificly, the version of iTunes on the computer
to
which it was downloaded. Without getting into the nitty gritty details,
let's just say they don't do that anymore either. The same applies to
NLS.
The only reason it hasn't changed yet is because there's no reason for
them
to, according to them. Hence, people will continue to break the copy
protection anyway.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: April 18, 2010 6:02 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

Hi John and list.

I'm going to comment on several messages that I've seen on this topic.

First, John, I wonder if your direct boss is the owner of the station.
If
he is, the station may get into trouble if publishers find out he is
allowing material sent to the station is being copied.  This material is
specificly for the use of the station.  In fact, I'm not sure if the
owner
of the CD actually owns the music.  With software, you are licensed to
use
the software.  You don't own the copy you use, you just have a license
for
it.  I'm not blaming you for copying the CD's.  Just be aware that the
station could be in legal trouble if investigated.

As for using VCR's or  tape recorders, this has been a debate that the
publishers of material have had with people for years.  I don't know the
legal wording, but I believe that courts have ruled that so long as you
use
the material you obtain from over the air, you have the right to use it
for
your own private use.  This also holds for albums you buy.  If you
decide to
make a 

RE: It's Still Stealing

[Frank Ventura]

Chris, I wasn't even suggesting that the local lending library would
allow you to make copies of any of their material, of course they would
not and should not. My point was that local lending libraries make
material available to the public that is just as easily pirated as BARD
but they don't shoehorn patrons into supporting the for profit business
of mandatory players. That would be like going to my local lending
library and checking out a book and have them tell me that I can only
read it while sitting in a a LazyBoy Recliner, not another brand. But,
of course if I can't afford it, us as tax payers, would be glad to fit
the bill for that LazyBoy.


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

No, but the library won't let you make copies of that book and give them

away or sell them to others. The copy protection scheme with BARD books 
is intended to keep these books from getting into the general public and

impacting the sales of audio books. This kind of protection is necessary

in order to ensure cooperation with the publishers. I think the attitude

of some on this list that once they have an MP3 in their possession 
they're able to do with it whatever they want demonstrates why the NLS 
and other companies and agencies need to take such action.

Although I'm sure the vendor manufacturing the players is doing it for a

profit, I'm not sure how you know they're making tons of money (whatever

that means). I also have no ideas what insentives you're talking about. 
If you're implying that kickbacks are involved then that's illegal and 
you should report that. I also don't see how the 3rd party players are 
raking in the dough from this, unless by providing this feature they're 
boosting their sales. I don't see anything wrong with that by the way.


Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


On 4/19/2010 8:10 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
 If I walk into my local public library and check out a book the
 librarian doesn't tell me which room in my house I can or cannot read
 the book in. However with BARD they restrict qualified persons as to
 which player the must use. The government is buying tons of those new
 digital players and someone is making tons of money building and
selling
 them to the government and someone in said government is receiving
 incentives to continue this practice? So does anyone not think it is
 all about money?


 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of James Homuth
 Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:01 PM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

 BARD is under the misguided impression that, even after you download
 your
 copy of a particular book, BARD still owns that copy. You have no
legal
 authority to do anything, considered legal or otherwise, with that
copy.
 Not
 only is that incorrect, but it's also even more restrictive than even
 the
 most literally interpreted copyright law. Again, I'll use my example
of
 iTunes. You pay for a couple songs from iTunjes. They're now yours.
 Apple no
 longer owns those copies. You can put them on your iWhatever, burn
them
 to a
 CD, do pretty much whatever you want with them. Not true with BARD.
And
 it's
 business models like that that convince people to do things you would
 call
 stealing.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
 Sent: April 18, 2010 11:51 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

 but from Bard, which was your example, you don't have permission.
 - Original Message -
 From: mitchellmitchellgre...@gmail.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:43 AM
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing



 That's absulootly rite, but after you qualify for the servis, and
down
  

 load
 the file you still don't return it so if this all rite then how is
tom
  
 or

 anyone who has someone's pramition to coppy a fyle then how is it
 steeling?
 Mitchell

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
  
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

 On Behalf Of James Homuth
 Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:37 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

 Apple tried to do the exact same thing with their iTunes. They tried
 limitting exactly what type of player you could put their music etc
on
  
 in

 the same way BARD is. The reasons that didn't work are the exact same
 reasons BARD shouldn't be doing that either. If you get your hands on
 something, whether you have legal access to do so or not, you're
going
  
 to

 want to do whatever you want with that something. Either put it on a
  
 CD

RE: It's Still Stealing

[Frank Ventura]

Why do you feel Overdrive is restrictive DRM? I don't feel that at all.
Overdrive can be used with your player of choice (IPod, MP3 Player, CD,
or 'puter) our local lending library (The Boston Public Library System,
god bless them for a great system) even gives patrons instructions on
how to use Overdrive books downloaded from the, on patrons' player of
choice. You can't compare that to BARD where the required players create
a restrictive  market which is heavily slanted towards a few specific
vendors. The copyright issues are the same between BARD and the average
local lending library that offers electronic media, so why is the
implementation different? You are correct abot the history of the
talking book library. But, with the proliferation of electronic media in
mainstream libraries a separate and very unequal system for the blind is
totally a dinosaur, IMHO.


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:03 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

Wow, I can't respond to all of these unsubstantiated allegations. This 
is the first I've heard though that the whole existence of BARD is to 
line the pockets of some select blind people. I tend to doubt this is 
the case myself.

I'm sure other distribution mechanisms could have been used, including 
leveraging existing municipal libraries. These libraries aren't federal 
though, and not every state or community is going to have the same set 
of services available through their local library system. Also, remember

that the network of state libraries has been around for decades and it's

original purpose was to distribute materials to the blind, especially 
blinded vetrans. Even today, computer savvy patrons are in the minority 
of NLS users. This is also why the player and cartridges are so easy to 
use and service like supporting other media, PC's and the like aren't 
supported.

I'm not sure how you can say that this somehow indicates that the blind 
are more disposed to piracy than the general community. Several analgies

have been made on this list to Sony and Apple, which have nothing to do 
with the blind. You even mention Overdrive, which protects most of it's 
content. Audible and other services which don't cater to the blind have 
their own protected formats.

There are some blind people though who feel that because of the 
relatively weak economic state of the blind as a whole that they're well

within their rights to take whatever they need when they feel the cost 
is unreasonable. I don't believe this is unique to the blind though. The

whole issue of DRM is not a blindness issue. Many sighted people feel 
they're allowed to steal music because RIAA is evil.

--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


On 4/19/2010 8:42 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
 That is where you are wrong. There are many folks whom have made very
 handsome profits from BARD. Those players don't just fall from the sky
 you know. They cost money to make and design and that is profit for
 someone. Also the very existence of BARD is, and has always, been to
 provide paid positions for some very connected blind folks. Think
about
 it. Why do we even need our own system of libraries? Hundreds of
 thousands of local lending libraries throughout the US provide a range
 of print, audio, visual, and electronic media to lend to the masses
 every day without the same knee jerk concerns of copyright violation.
 You can just as easily go to your local library and photocopy a book,
 dub a audio tape or copy an overdrive book. Does the government think
 blind folks are more predispositioned to piracy than ordinary folks,
 that we need such extreme measures that the rest of our culture does
 not? There is no reason why our nations infrastructure of lending
 libraries could not be the venues for electronic media not just for
the
 sighted but blind alike but that would take payola out of the pockets
of
 quite a few blind folks now wouldn't it? Yes folks you cannot leave
 profit out of this conversation, sad to say.


 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher
Chaltain
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 2:16 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

 The reason in my mind is that you are signing up for a service
provided
 by
 the US government. This service is free of charge, and you are
agreeing
 to
 it's terms when you sign up for it. The law enabling this service aims
 to
 provide material free to the blind while protecting the rights of the
 publishers. This program is intended for all blind citizens of the US
 and
 not just those with PC's. This is not a business or profit making
 venture,
 but is paid for by tax dollars, of which I'm a tax payer. Your
analogies
 to
 Sony and Apple just don't apply. Even though we have the luxury of
 keeping

RE: It's Still Stealing

[Frank Ventura]

Well said and it should be noted that the copy protection scheme
currently used by NLS is designed to sell players, either to the tax
payers or to individuals, not protect authors since ven little 12 year
old Jimmy on his mommies laptop can crack that copy protection and as
you correctly noted authors don't get the lion's share of audio book
revenue.  The person you were replying to said that people on this list
think they can do whatever they want with a MP3 once they download it. I
don't think anyone here said so much and that is exactally the type of
paranoia that feeds into this type of hysteria that only lines the
pockets of the RIAA and publishers and hurts the artists/authors and
consumers.


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:38 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

Audiobook sales are pretty much exactly like album sales. The publishers
see
most of the revenue from it, whereas the authors get stuck with very
little.
And, indeed, there are quite a few authors now who are releasing their
books
online first, knowing they'll be downloaded, given away, whatever, and
knowing that'll transfer over into more direct interactions with
readers.
That, in turn, will generate more revenue that goes directly to the
author.
Why do you think publishers are now getting all uppity because people
are
being drawn more to ebooks? They don't get as much of a kickback from
it--the author gets more of the money then. That's why you see, if you
actually bother to read about it, publishers pulling their selections
from
Amazon and companies like that. If a book is good enough, people will
pay
for it anyway, whether they've purchased it or not. Because, and rightly
so,
authors do deserve to be compensated for the work. But they're more
likely
to pay for it in methods that go directly to the author if that's the
case,
and bypass the publishers entirely.

Also, though I suspect pointing it out will serve only to be ignored,
there's a ton and a half of evidence that says piracy doesn't have
nearly
the effect on sales of any variety as the industry would like to have
you
believe. In fact, sales in certain industries are actually inicreasing,
be
there piracy or no piracy. But best not tell that to the lobbiests just
in
case they brand you a pirate by association.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: April 19, 2010 9:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

No, but the library won't let you make copies of that book and give them
away or sell them to others. The copy protection scheme with BARD books
is
intended to keep these books from getting into the general public and
impacting the sales of audio books. This kind of protection is necessary
in
order to ensure cooperation with the publishers. I think the attitude of
some on this list that once they have an MP3 in their possession they're
able to do with it whatever they want demonstrates why the NLS and other
companies and agencies need to take such action.

Although I'm sure the vendor manufacturing the players is doing it for a
profit, I'm not sure how you know they're making tons of money (whatever
that means). I also have no ideas what insentives you're talking about. 
If you're implying that kickbacks are involved then that's illegal and
you
should report that. I also don't see how the 3rd party players are
raking in
the dough from this, unless by providing this feature they're boosting
their
sales. I don't see anything wrong with that by the way.


Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


On 4/19/2010 8:10 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
 If I walk into my local public library and check out a book the 
 librarian doesn't tell me which room in my house I can or cannot read 
 the book in. However with BARD they restrict qualified persons as to 
 which player the must use. The government is buying tons of those new 
 digital players and someone is making tons of money building and 
 selling them to the government and someone in said government is 
 receiving incentives to continue this practice? So does anyone not 
 think it is all about money?


 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of James Homuth
 Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:01 PM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

 BARD is under the misguided impression that, even after you download 
 your copy of a particular book, BARD still owns that copy. You have no

 legal authority to do anything, considered legal or otherwise, with 
 that copy.
 Not
 only is that incorrect, but it's also even more restrictive than even 
 the most literally interpreted copyright law. Again, I'll use my 
 example of iTunes. You pay for a couple songs from iTunjes

RE: It's Still Stealing

[Frank Ventura]

Are you accusing me (or anyone else on this list) of copying books? 

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Robert doc Wright
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:54 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

i am quite sure that if your library knew that you were copying whole
books 
that you borrowed from them they would address that issue with you.
- Original Message - 
From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:42 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing


 That is where you are wrong. There are many folks whom have made very
 handsome profits from BARD. Those players don't just fall from the sky
 you know. They cost money to make and design and that is profit for
 someone. Also the very existence of BARD is, and has always, been to
 provide paid positions for some very connected blind folks. Think
about
 it. Why do we even need our own system of libraries? Hundreds of
 thousands of local lending libraries throughout the US provide a range
 of print, audio, visual, and electronic media to lend to the masses
 every day without the same knee jerk concerns of copyright violation.
 You can just as easily go to your local library and photocopy a book,
 dub a audio tape or copy an overdrive book. Does the government think
 blind folks are more predispositioned to piracy than ordinary folks,
 that we need such extreme measures that the rest of our culture does
 not? There is no reason why our nations infrastructure of lending
 libraries could not be the venues for electronic media not just for
the
 sighted but blind alike but that would take payola out of the pockets
of
 quite a few blind folks now wouldn't it? Yes folks you cannot leave
 profit out of this conversation, sad to say.


 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher
Chaltain
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 2:16 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

 The reason in my mind is that you are signing up for a service
provided
 by
 the US government. This service is free of charge, and you are
agreeing
 to
 it's terms when you sign up for it. The law enabling this service aims
 to
 provide material free to the blind while protecting the rights of the
 publishers. This program is intended for all blind citizens of the US
 and
 not just those with PC's. This is not a business or profit making
 venture,
 but is paid for by tax dollars, of which I'm a tax payer. Your
analogies
 to
 Sony and Apple just don't apply. Even though we have the luxury of
 keeping
 the books around and playing them on multiple players, it doesn't
change
 the
 fact that this is a library, and we're borrowing these books.

 BTW, there is no way to listen to these books on a PC. You need a
player
 provided for free by the NLS or you can purchase several different
book
 players.

 --
 Christopher
 chalt...@gmail.com




 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of James Homuth
 Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:48 PM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

 Kevin, the point is this. Why should you, after obtaining the NLS
books,
 have to go and get one of the NLS approved players just to enjoy the
 privelege of being able to listen to the book while not at the
computer?
 That would be like Soni putting out an album with copy protection that
 limitted what you could play it on to CD players manufactured by Soni.
 Soni
 already tried the whole copy protection to prevent people from putting
 the
 contents of CD's on their computers, or copying them to other CD's. A
 pretty
 high-profile lawsuit later, they don't do that anymore. Apple tried to
 say
 you could only put music you purchased from iTunes on your iPod. You
 couldn't burn that to CD, or play it in anything else that wasn't
either
 your iPod or iTunes. Specificly, the version of iTunes on the computer
 to
 which it was downloaded. Without getting into the nitty gritty
details,
 let's just say they don't do that anymore either. The same applies to
 NLS.
 The only reason it hasn't changed yet is because there's no reason for
 them
 to, according to them. Hence, people will continue to break the copy
 protection anyway.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
 Sent: April 18, 2010 6:02 PM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

 Hi John and list.

 I'm going to comment on several messages that I've seen on this topic.

 First, John, I wonder if your direct boss is the owner of the station.
 If
 he is, the station may get into trouble if publishers find out he is
 allowing material sent to the station is being copied

RE: It's Still Stealing

[Frank Ventura]

What I meant (in case there is any confusion) is that a sighted person
can break copyright law just as easily as a blind person but they don't
face the same restrictions as blind people do.  I thought I made that
quite clear. Again I go back to the Lazyboy recliner analogy. A sighted
lending library does  not tell its patrons how they may read their
borrowed material but BARD does go that extra step with blind people
with its for profit players. The secondary and maybe far worse effect of
this double standard is that it makes blind people appear as if we are
more prone to piracy then the general public. 

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Robert doc Wright
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:02 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

Here are your words frank:
frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:42 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

 You can just as easily go to your local library and photocopy a book,
 dub a audio tape or copy an overdrive book. Does the government think
 blind folks are more predispositioned to piracy than ordinary folks,
 that we need such extreme measures that the rest of our culture does
 not? 

What did you mean by this?
 

- Original Message - 
From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 8:05 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing


 Chris, I wasn't even suggesting that the local lending library would
 allow you to make copies of any of their material, of course they
would
 not and should not. My point was that local lending libraries make
 material available to the public that is just as easily pirated as
BARD
 but they don't shoehorn patrons into supporting the for profit
business
 of mandatory players. That would be like going to my local lending
 library and checking out a book and have them tell me that I can only
 read it while sitting in a a LazyBoy Recliner, not another brand. But,
 of course if I can't afford it, us as tax payers, would be glad to fit
 the bill for that LazyBoy.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher
Chaltain
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:24 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
 
 No, but the library won't let you make copies of that book and give
them
 
 away or sell them to others. The copy protection scheme with BARD
books 
 is intended to keep these books from getting into the general public
and
 
 impacting the sales of audio books. This kind of protection is
necessary
 
 in order to ensure cooperation with the publishers. I think the
attitude
 
 of some on this list that once they have an MP3 in their possession 
 they're able to do with it whatever they want demonstrates why the NLS

 and other companies and agencies need to take such action.
 
 Although I'm sure the vendor manufacturing the players is doing it for
a
 
 profit, I'm not sure how you know they're making tons of money
(whatever
 
 that means). I also have no ideas what insentives you're talking
about. 
 If you're implying that kickbacks are involved then that's illegal and

 you should report that. I also don't see how the 3rd party players are

 raking in the dough from this, unless by providing this feature
they're 
 boosting their sales. I don't see anything wrong with that by the way.
 
 
 Christopher
 chalt...@gmail.com
 
 
 On 4/19/2010 8:10 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
 If I walk into my local public library and check out a book the
 librarian doesn't tell me which room in my house I can or cannot read
 the book in. However with BARD they restrict qualified persons as to
 which player the must use. The government is buying tons of those new
 digital players and someone is making tons of money building and
 selling
 them to the government and someone in said government is receiving
 incentives to continue this practice? So does anyone not think it
is
 all about money?


 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of James Homuth
 Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:01 PM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

 BARD is under the misguided impression that, even after you download
 your
 copy of a particular book, BARD still owns that copy. You have no
 legal
 authority to do anything, considered legal or otherwise, with that
 copy.
 Not
 only is that incorrect, but it's also even more restrictive than even
 the
 most literally interpreted copyright law. Again, I'll use my example
 of
 iTunes. You pay for a couple songs from iTunjes. They're now yours.
 Apple no
 longer owns those copies. You can put them on your iWhatever, burn
 them
 to a
 CD, do pretty much whatever you want with them. Not true

RE: It's Still Stealing

[Frank Ventura]

 to make copies of any of their material, of course they
would
 not and should not. My point was that local lending libraries make
 material available to the public that is just as easily pirated as
BARD
 but they don't shoehorn patrons into supporting the for profit
business
 of mandatory players. That would be like going to my local lending
 library and checking out a book and have them tell me that I can only
 read it while sitting in a a LazyBoy Recliner, not another brand.
But,
 of course if I can't afford it, us as tax payers, would be glad to
fit
 the bill for that LazyBoy.


 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher
Chaltain
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:24 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

 No, but the library won't let you make copies of that book and give
them

 away or sell them to others. The copy protection scheme with BARD
books
 is intended to keep these books from getting into the general public
and

 impacting the sales of audio books. This kind of protection is
necessary

 in order to ensure cooperation with the publishers. I think the
attitude

 of some on this list that once they have an MP3 in their possession
 they're able to do with it whatever they want demonstrates why the
NLS
 and other companies and agencies need to take such action.

 Although I'm sure the vendor manufacturing the players is doing it
for a

 profit, I'm not sure how you know they're making tons of money
(whatever

 that means). I also have no ideas what insentives you're talking
about.
 If you're implying that kickbacks are involved then that's illegal
and
 you should report that. I also don't see how the 3rd party players
are
 raking in the dough from this, unless by providing this feature
they're
 boosting their sales. I don't see anything wrong with that by the
way.


 Christopher
 chalt...@gmail.com


 On 4/19/2010 8:10 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
  
 If I walk into my local public library and check out a book the
 librarian doesn't tell me which room in my house I can or cannot
read
 the book in. However with BARD they restrict qualified persons as to
 which player the must use. The government is buying tons of those
new
 digital players and someone is making tons of money building and

 selling
  
 them to the government and someone in said government is receiving
 incentives to continue this practice? So does anyone not think it
is
 all about money?


 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of James Homuth
 Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:01 PM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

 BARD is under the misguided impression that, even after you download
 your
 copy of a particular book, BARD still owns that copy. You have no

 legal
  
 authority to do anything, considered legal or otherwise, with that

 copy.
  
 Not
 only is that incorrect, but it's also even more restrictive than
even
 the
 most literally interpreted copyright law. Again, I'll use my example

 of
  
 iTunes. You pay for a couple songs from iTunjes. They're now yours.
 Apple no
 longer owns those copies. You can put them on your iWhatever, burn

 them
  
 to a
 CD, do pretty much whatever you want with them. Not true with BARD.

 And
  
 it's
 business models like that that convince people to do things you
would
 call
 stealing.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
 Sent: April 18, 2010 11:51 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

 but from Bard, which was your example, you don't have permission.
 - Original Message -
 From: mitchellmitchellgre...@gmail.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:43 AM
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing




 That's absulootly rite, but after you qualify for the servis, and
  
 down
  

  


 load
 the file you still don't return it so if this all rite then how is
  
 tom
  

  
 or


 anyone who has someone's pramition to coppy a fyle then how is it
 steeling?
 Mitchell

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org

  
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]


 On Behalf Of James Homuth
 Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:37 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

 Apple tried to do the exact same thing with their iTunes. They
tried
 limitting exactly what type of player you could put their music etc
  
 on
  

  
 in


 the same way BARD is. The reasons that didn't work are the exact
same
 reasons BARD shouldn't be doing that either. If you get your hands
on
 something, whether you have

RE: It's Still Stealing

[Frank Ventura]

So, you are saying that the folks who design these copy protection
scheme, proprietary players and sell it to Mr. and Mrs. Tax payer aren't
making a profit? 


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:20 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

I don't follow. How is the copy protection scheme meant to sell players?

Who's supposed to make money with this scheme? I think the copy 
protection scheme is meant to do exactly what it claims to and that's 
reassure the publishers that this material produced and provided freely 
to the blind isn't going to compete with commercially available audio 
books. If it's so easily cracked, wouldn't that also undermine these 
sales that you're talking about? Somehow I doubt the people behind the 
NLS are as devious as you paint them out to be.

--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


On 4/19/2010 12:02 PM, Frank Ventura wrote:
 Well said and it should be noted that the copy protection scheme
 currently used by NLS is designed to sell players, either to the tax
 payers or to individuals, not protect authors since ven little 12 year
 old Jimmy on his mommies laptop can crack that copy protection and as
 you correctly noted authors don't get the lion's share of audio book
 revenue.  The person you were replying to said that people on this
list
 think they can do whatever they want with a MP3 once they download it.
I
 don't think anyone here said so much and that is exactally the type of
 paranoia that feeds into this type of hysteria that only lines the
 pockets of the RIAA and publishers and hurts the artists/authors and
 consumers.


 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of James Homuth
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:38 PM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

 Audiobook sales are pretty much exactly like album sales. The
publishers
 see
 most of the revenue from it, whereas the authors get stuck with very
 little.
 And, indeed, there are quite a few authors now who are releasing their
 books
 online first, knowing they'll be downloaded, given away, whatever, and
 knowing that'll transfer over into more direct interactions with
 readers.
 That, in turn, will generate more revenue that goes directly to the
 author.
 Why do you think publishers are now getting all uppity because people
 are
 being drawn more to ebooks? They don't get as much of a kickback from
 it--the author gets more of the money then. That's why you see, if you
 actually bother to read about it, publishers pulling their selections
 from
 Amazon and companies like that. If a book is good enough, people will
 pay
 for it anyway, whether they've purchased it or not. Because, and
rightly
 so,
 authors do deserve to be compensated for the work. But they're more
 likely
 to pay for it in methods that go directly to the author if that's the
 case,
 and bypass the publishers entirely.

 Also, though I suspect pointing it out will serve only to be ignored,
 there's a ton and a half of evidence that says piracy doesn't have
 nearly
 the effect on sales of any variety as the industry would like to have
 you
 believe. In fact, sales in certain industries are actually
inicreasing,
 be
 there piracy or no piracy. But best not tell that to the lobbiests
just
 in
 case they brand you a pirate by association.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: April 19, 2010 9:24 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

 No, but the library won't let you make copies of that book and give
them
 away or sell them to others. The copy protection scheme with BARD
books
 is
 intended to keep these books from getting into the general public and
 impacting the sales of audio books. This kind of protection is
necessary
 in
 order to ensure cooperation with the publishers. I think the attitude
of
 some on this list that once they have an MP3 in their possession
they're
 able to do with it whatever they want demonstrates why the NLS and
other
 companies and agencies need to take such action.

 Although I'm sure the vendor manufacturing the players is doing it for
a
 profit, I'm not sure how you know they're making tons of money
(whatever
 that means). I also have no ideas what insentives you're talking
about.
 If you're implying that kickbacks are involved then that's illegal and
 you
 should report that. I also don't see how the 3rd party players are
 raking in
 the dough from this, unless by providing this feature they're boosting
 their
 sales. I don't see anything wrong with that by the way.


 Christopher
 chalt...@gmail.com


 On 4/19/2010 8:10 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:

 If I walk into my local public library and check out a book the
 librarian

RE: It's Still Stealing

[Frank Ventura]

OK if you don't think there is a double standard then stand in front of
your average lending library in AnyTown USA and tell each person coming
out with a book that they will have to spend three bills of their
paycheck (or tax dollars) to be able to read that book and watch their
reaction. Still no double standard?

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:27 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

I don't agree. Someone else on this list talked about the more famous 
RIAA law suits, and to my knowledge none of these were directed against 
blind individuals. I'm not aware of a single case where the NLS went 
after a blind patron. Copy protection schemes implemented by Sony, 
Apple, Audible and so on are not directed at the blind. Apple, Audible 
and Overdrive content are all restricted to a certain set of players, or

used to be, and again this has nothing to do with the blind. I don't 
think there's a double standard here.

I won't even go near the recliner analogy.

--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


On 4/19/2010 12:17 PM, Frank Ventura wrote:
 What I meant (in case there is any confusion) is that a sighted person
 can break copyright law just as easily as a blind person but they
don't
 face the same restrictions as blind people do.  I thought I made that
 quite clear. Again I go back to the Lazyboy recliner analogy. A
sighted
 lending library does  not tell its patrons how they may read their
 borrowed material but BARD does go that extra step with blind people
 with its for profit players. The secondary and maybe far worse effect
of
 this double standard is that it makes blind people appear as if we are
 more prone to piracy then the general public.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Robert doc Wright
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

 Here are your words frank:
 frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:42 AM
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing


 You can just as easily go to your local library and photocopy a book,
 dub a audio tape or copy an overdrive book. Does the government think
 blind folks are more predispositioned to piracy than ordinary folks,
 that we need such extreme measures that the rest of our culture does
 not?
  
 What did you mean by this?


 - Original Message -
 From: Frank Venturafrank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 8:05 AM
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing



 Chris, I wasn't even suggesting that the local lending library would
 allow you to make copies of any of their material, of course they
  
 would

 not and should not. My point was that local lending libraries make
 material available to the public that is just as easily pirated as
  
 BARD

 but they don't shoehorn patrons into supporting the for profit
  
 business

 of mandatory players. That would be like going to my local lending
 library and checking out a book and have them tell me that I can only
 read it while sitting in a a LazyBoy Recliner, not another brand.
But,
 of course if I can't afford it, us as tax payers, would be glad to
fit
 the bill for that LazyBoy.


 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher
  
 Chaltain

 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:24 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

 No, but the library won't let you make copies of that book and give
  
 them

 away or sell them to others. The copy protection scheme with BARD
  
 books

 is intended to keep these books from getting into the general public
  
 and

 impacting the sales of audio books. This kind of protection is
  
 necessary

 in order to ensure cooperation with the publishers. I think the
  
 attitude

 of some on this list that once they have an MP3 in their possession
 they're able to do with it whatever they want demonstrates why the
NLS
  

 and other companies and agencies need to take such action.

 Although I'm sure the vendor manufacturing the players is doing it
for
  
 a

 profit, I'm not sure how you know they're making tons of money
  
 (whatever

 that means). I also have no ideas what insentives you're talking
  
 about.

 If you're implying that kickbacks are involved then that's illegal
and
  

 you should report that. I also don't see how the 3rd party players
are
  

 raking in the dough from this, unless by providing this feature
  
 they're

 boosting their sales. I don't see anything wrong

RE: It's Still Stealing

[Frank Ventura]

That was for a BARD player, either we pay it directly or through our tax
dollars.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:38 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

I'm confused. Who's paying three bills? Where's the analogy?

--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


On 4/19/2010 12:31 PM, Frank Ventura wrote:
 OK if you don't think there is a double standard then stand in front
of
 your average lending library in AnyTown USA and tell each person
coming
 out with a book that they will have to spend three bills of their
 paycheck (or tax dollars) to be able to read that book and watch their
 reaction. Still no double standard?

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher
Chaltain
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:27 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

 I don't agree. Someone else on this list talked about the more famous
 RIAA law suits, and to my knowledge none of these were directed
against
 blind individuals. I'm not aware of a single case where the NLS went
 after a blind patron. Copy protection schemes implemented by Sony,
 Apple, Audible and so on are not directed at the blind. Apple, Audible
 and Overdrive content are all restricted to a certain set of players,
or

 used to be, and again this has nothing to do with the blind. I don't
 think there's a double standard here.

 I won't even go near the recliner analogy.

 --

 Christopher
 chalt...@gmail.com


 On 4/19/2010 12:17 PM, Frank Ventura wrote:

 What I meant (in case there is any confusion) is that a sighted
person
 can break copyright law just as easily as a blind person but they
  
 don't

 face the same restrictions as blind people do.  I thought I made that
 quite clear. Again I go back to the Lazyboy recliner analogy. A
  
 sighted

 lending library does  not tell its patrons how they may read their
 borrowed material but BARD does go that extra step with blind people
 with its for profit players. The secondary and maybe far worse effect
  
 of

 this double standard is that it makes blind people appear as if we
are
 more prone to piracy then the general public.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Robert doc Wright
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

 Here are your words frank:
 frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:42 AM
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing


  
 You can just as easily go to your local library and photocopy a
book,
 dub a audio tape or copy an overdrive book. Does the government
think
 blind folks are more predispositioned to piracy than ordinary folks,
 that we need such extreme measures that the rest of our culture does
 not?


 What did you mean by this?


 - Original Message -
 From: Frank Venturafrank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 8:05 AM
 Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing



  
 Chris, I wasn't even suggesting that the local lending library would
 allow you to make copies of any of their material, of course they


 would

  
 not and should not. My point was that local lending libraries make
 material available to the public that is just as easily pirated as


 BARD

  
 but they don't shoehorn patrons into supporting the for profit


 business

  
 of mandatory players. That would be like going to my local lending
 library and checking out a book and have them tell me that I can
only
 read it while sitting in a a LazyBoy Recliner, not another brand.

 But,

 of course if I can't afford it, us as tax payers, would be glad to

 fit

 the bill for that LazyBoy.


 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher


 Chaltain

  
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:24 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

 No, but the library won't let you make copies of that book and give


 them

  
 away or sell them to others. The copy protection scheme with BARD


 books

  
 is intended to keep these books from getting into the general public


 and

  
 impacting the sales of audio books. This kind of protection is


 necessary

  
 in order to ensure cooperation with the publishers. I think the


 attitude

  
 of some on this list that once they have an MP3 in their possession
 they're able to do with it whatever they want demonstrates why the

 NLS

RE: Best portable mike mixer out there?

[Frank Ventura]

Try a Macki 402vlz, it is about the size of a loose leaf notebook.
Frank

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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:48 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Best portable mike mixer out there?

Hey, guys and gals!  I'm looking for a not terribly sophisticated mike
mixer 
that is small that I can take on the road with my Netbook.  Any ideas?

As always, you all are the best!

Peace,
Kathy 


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RE: Two Sound Card Issues

[Frank Ventura]

One other thing to check is that you have the proper speaker setup set
in the configuration of the sound card, for example stereo speakers,
5.1, 7.1, etc.
Frank

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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 9:57 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Two Sound Card Issues

Don't know exactly how your card connects but both speakers probably
should 
be connected to one of the eighth inch sockets.  I wouldn't know which
is 
front or rear as I have a different Creative card.

Bob


- Original Message - 
From: Samuel Wilkins clevercl...@gwilkins.co.uk
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 3:42 PM
Subject: RE: Two Sound Card Issues


 There are no effects on. How can I tell if the speakers are connected
to a
 front or rear output?

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Robert Logue
 Sent: 28 March 2010 21:49
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Two Sound Card Issues

 For the first issue:  Creative cards can have effects.  Go to the
Creative
 Audio Console and move to the Eax tab.  Make sure no effects are on. 
 There
 may be a set of radio buttons for different sets of effects.  change
radio
 buttons then tab through the dialog and make sure nothing is on for
each
 radio button.

 Another possibility is that you have one speaker connected to a front 
 output

 and the other speaker to a rear output.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Samuel Wilkins clevercl...@gwilkins.co.uk
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 7:29 AM
 Subject: Two Sound Card Issues


 Hello, I have just installed a Sound Blaster Audigy 2ZS in my new 
 computer
 running

 Windows 7. However, I have two issues. First, when the sound comes 
 through
 my speakers,

 the sound goes through

 one speaker a few milliseconds before the other, making a kind of
robotic
 effect.

 Why is this happening? The second issue is that when I try to use the
you
 Hear

 Option, in the sounds dialog in the control panel, it says that what
you
 hear is

 Currently unavailable and when I try to use it in Goldwave, nothing
 happens.
 why is this?

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Recording one computer from another

[Frank Ventura]

Hi all, I am trying to record the output from one computer to the line
in input of another computer. I am recording on a Windows 7 64bit
computer with 8GB of memory and a Realtec on board sound. If I plug a
1/8 male cable in the line in jack and the other 1/8 end of the cable in
another audio device such as the NLS player, battery powered radio or
laptop running on battery power everything workd fine. If I plug the
source end into a computer that is plugged into 110vac hosehold current
I get some really noticeable feedback and buzzing. Is there anything I
can do that will eliminate this?
Thanks
Frank

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RE: Recording one computer from another

[Frank Ventura]

Thanks, not sure if I want to delve into that. Would running the audio
output from the source computer through a hardware mixer help at all, or
would that make it worse?
Frank

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 5:02 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Recording one computer from another

High Frank,
The power supplies of both of those computers, are earth grounded.
In order to get red of that hum noise, the earth ground pole on both
power 
supplies will have to be disconnected.
But I wouldn't suggest doing it yourself unless you really know what
you're 
doing.
I am telling you this because, long after the computers are unplugged,
there 
is still electricity left over in the power supplies.
This is because the capacitors stores that electricity.
Hope this helps.
My best regards.
  John.
PS. You mite want to copy  the audio file on computer A to a USB flash 
drive, and paste it to computer B.
That is one way you can transfer audio from one computer to another.
- Original Message - 
From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 4:41 PM
Subject: Recording one computer from another


 Hi all, I am trying to record the output from one computer to the line
 in input of another computer. I am recording on a Windows 7 64bit
 computer with 8GB of memory and a Realtec on board sound. If I plug a
 1/8 male cable in the line in jack and the other 1/8 end of the cable
in
 another audio device such as the NLS player, battery powered radio or
 laptop running on battery power everything workd fine. If I plug the
 source end into a computer that is plugged into 110vac hosehold
current
 I get some really noticeable feedback and buzzing. Is there anything I
 can do that will eliminate this?
 Thanks
 Frank

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M-audio sound cards

[Frank Ventura]

Hi all, does anyone have any experience with the m-audio brand of sound
cards like the Delta 44 or the Delta 66? Any thoughts would be
appreciated. Are drivers readily available?
Thanks
Frank

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RE: M-audio sound cards

[Frank Ventura]

Hi I have two computers that I am interested in using these cards in.
One is a Windows xp pro and the other is Windows 7 ultimate, both
running JFW 11. I was hoping to use one set of inputs from these cards,
connected to my ixer and one set of inputs as a monitor.
Thanks
Frank

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim Noseworthy
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 5:40 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: M-audio sound cards

Hello:

Well, lot's of folks on this list have knowledge about the various Delta

soundcards.  What operating system are you using and what, if any, is
your 
accessibility software?

Cheers.


--
From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:15 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: M-audio sound cards

 Hi all, does anyone have any experience with the m-audio brand of
sound
 cards like the Delta 44 or the Delta 66? Any thoughts would be
 appreciated. Are drivers readily available?
 Thanks
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RE: Recording voice podcasts on my PC

[Frank Ventura]

Tim, thanks actually I have a SB audigy here as well so I will stick
with that.
Frank

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 6:22 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Recording voice podcasts on my PC

Hi, Frank. I use one of the soundblaster audigy cards on my pc and it
works fine. As long as your mixer has relatively quiet preamps and your
sound card has a line input you should be fine. On Mon, 15 Mar 2010
23:52:09 -0400, Frank Ventura wrote:


Hi all I am going to be making a few audio tutorials and recording them

on y PC, most likely with Total Recorder. I need a few recommendations 
as to some of the hardware that I should be using. I already have an 8 
channel mixer with analog outputs. What sound card is recommended for 
input to the computer to plug the mixer into to? Also for recording 
voice when looking at microphones what frequency range is recommended?
Thanks
Frank Ventura

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Recording voice podcasts on my PC

[Frank Ventura]

Hi all I am going to be making a few audio tutorials and recording them
on y PC, most likely with Total Recorder. I need a few recommendations
as to some of the hardware that I should be using. I already have an 8
channel mixer with analog outputs. What sound card is recommended for
input to the computer to plug the mixer into to? Also for recording
voice when looking at microphones what frequency range is recommended?
Thanks
Frank Ventura

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RE: Total Recorder Version 8.1 is Released

[Frank Ventura]

Does anyone have a direct download link to TR 8.1 standard?


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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve Pattison
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 6:46 AM
To: PC Audio; CUG Members; VIP-L
Subject: Total Recorder Version 8.1 is Released

Total Recorder version 8.1 is now available and can be downloaded from
www.highcriteria.com.  Here are the changes in this version and note
that some of these changes only apply to the video edition of Total
Recorder:

Version 8.1 build 3900 (released on March 5, 2010)

You can adjust the playing volume and recording level using hot keys.
The recording state is displayed on Total Recorder's icon in the Task
Bar or System
Tray.
A new command line parameter supports the Jump to time feature.

Other minor enhancements.

In addition to the number of minutes, you can now specify the number of
seconds when
splitting a file based on time.
When using Pause Reduction, you can specify the duration of preserved
pauses after
the reduction.
The batch processing feature has been extended as follows:
Presets for your batch processing parameters can be saved and later
reused.
Pause reduction is supported.
Batch processing of a folder or a list of files can be launched through
the command
line.
Improved time calculation during the background recording of VBR MP3
streams.

Other minor enhancements.

Support for multiple monitors. You can do the following:
Specify the monitor to be used when playing video in full-screen mode.
Specify the monitor from which a window or region will be captured.
Ability to perform background recording of FLV streams transmitted using
HTTP. This
allows you, for example, to background record video from YouTube.
Total Recorder can work with a wider range of audio streams in FLV
files.

Regards Steve
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RE: Direct Link to total Recorder Standard was Re: Total Recorder Version8.1 is Released

[Frank Ventura]

Thanks, much appreciated.
Frank

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Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 9:45 AM
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Subject: Direct Link to total Recorder Standard was Re: Total Recorder
Version8.1 is Released

A direct download link to Total Recorder Standard is
www.highcriteria.ca/download/tr81se.exe

Regards Steve.

On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:28:14 -0500
Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com wrote:
Does anyone have a direct download link to TR 8.1 standard?

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RE: Radio apps for Iphone

[Frank Ventura]

What does the server do?
Frank

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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 7:37 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Radio apps for Iphone

The ootunes page says the server runs on Windows, Mac or Linux, and it
doesn't seem to reference just the plain old app for anytyhing but
Iphone Ipod touch and Ipad. so no Mac app, just the server. Dane, were
you saying there is a receiver for the Mac?
Mary


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RE: Audio bluetooth

[Frank Ventura]

Not sure how cludgy this solution is but Jabra makes a device called the
cruiser which is primarily designed for use in cars with Bluetoooth cell
phones but what it will do is take a Bluetooth stereo output and
rebroadcast it to a FM receiver. The idea is that when a call comes in
you can turn the Jabra on and hear the output from the phone on your
cars FM stereo. It could also be used at home to take Bluetooth audio
from computers, laptops, etc to a FM receiver.
Frank

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:54 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

I'm not an expert on this but I believe their to be devices around which
take a signal from a bluetooth device such as an Iphone and will plug
into the line in of an audio system, speakers and so on, I've seen
reviews of them.

as for myself? Well I'm going to get a pair of dedicated bluetooth
speakers, not saying that one approach is better than the other but
that's what I'm doing.

As for needing sighted assistance to set up bluetooth devices? Well
that's a bit of a funny area really, I all the bluetooth devices I've
ever set up with my Iphone have been clearly identified by the phone so
I've just had to confirm them and - in some cases - type in a pairing
code on the Iphone which I've known in advance.


On 20/01/2010, at 1:49 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

 High Dain.,
 Ok, so you can't pick it up with an fm receiver.
 But how does one get a blue tooth audio signal on his or her stereo
system?
 John.
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:40 AM
 Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
 
 
 you're not missing anything and you're quite right as you can't, we
started talking about bluetooth audio - which has nothing to do with FM
transmitters - so that's why I canged the subject line, after all who
wants to see a subject line talking about FM transmitters when someone's
talking about Bluetooth?
 
 
 
 DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
 Hello all list members,
 I think I'm missing something here.
 But, how do you pick up a blue tooth transmition with an fm
receiver?
 I'm just wondering where the missing links to the audio chain are
here.
 John.
 - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen
br...@blindkom.dk
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:31 AM
 Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth
 
 
 Hi,
 Ah cool.
 Apple normally does a great job making a good out of the box
experience for
 the user.
 
 Brian
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: 19. januar 2010 12:03
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
 
 Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth
profile by
 default.
 
 
 On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:
 
 Hi,
 The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth
uses
 the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply
 sounds really bad.
 There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice
 profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable
for
 ordinary audio.
 At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you always get
with
 an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd never
want
 anything but good cables. :-)
 
 Brian
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
 
 My experience in the past has been that audio quality through
 bluetooth wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my
particular
 rig, since I see a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth.
I
 found it was hard to use with JAWS too since the power saving
features
 frequently had words being chopped off. I tended to use it for
sports more
 than anything.
 
 BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that
I
 use with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to
listen
 to music yet, the experience does seem to be better than my
previous
 experience.
 
 

--
 -- 
 
 Christopher
 chalt...@gmail.com mailto:chalt...@gmail.com
 

--
 -- 
 
 
 On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 That's true.  Now i don't know much about bluetooth though I'm
 thinking of
 using it with my Iphone in the future with some speakers, a hands
free
 kit and bluetooth headphones.
 
 I was under the impression that sound quality wasn't all that
good
 but I
 believe I can be proved wrong on that score now as its gone ahead
in
 leaps and bounds! will see when the 

RE: best fm transmitter

[Frank Ventura]

I have Billionton Blue Tooth router that has a range of about 100
meters. I believe it is a BT class 1 device.
Frank

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tim Grady
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:03 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: best fm transmitter

You can't do that as bluetooth has very limited range and is really
meant for cell phone headsets, close range computer keyboards  and
things like that.
On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Sunshine wrote:

 ok,  what kind of blue tooth device can i use then to  stream to all
my 
 stereo units in my home? then?
 btw does anyone have a number for mobile black box?
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:08 PM
 Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
 
 
 hi,
 well go bluetooth instead of fm.
 
 Brian
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:31 AM
 Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
 
 
 I assume you have one of these units?
 On Jan 16, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
 
 
 
 The current version of this transmitter comes with a remote control
that
 allows  the frequency to be adjusted by pushing up and down buttons.
The
 gain control is on the front rather than on the back.
 
 It is a good unit which you can leave on for days and weeks  and the
 frequency will remain stable.
 
 If you buy the high gain antenna and set it up properly, it will
transmit
 up
 to 300 yards without significant degradation of signal.
 
 Bob Nelson
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:00 AM
 Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
 
 
 
 HI PERFORMANCE FM-100MWS-LCD-E
 
 Digital PLL FM stereo transmitter
 
 ONLY $345 USD
 
 
 
 12 Volt Power Supply
 
 Our New FM-100mW-LCD unit is ready to go and comes complete with
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 compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt power
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 that
 works with 120 or 240 VAC sources.
 
 All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA
inputs on
 the back of the unit, and you are on the air!
 
 
 
 This NEW 100 milliwatt FM stereo transmitter will well out
perform
 most of the low cost units on the market since it was carefully
designed
 to
 pass even the very lowest audio frequencies down to 20 Hz and up to
15
 KHz
 for the high frequencies.  Believe me, this unit sounds just like
the big
 stations!  Excellent base and highs!!!
 Its highly accurate crystal reference and PLL circuitry ensure
you
 will have a very stable signal at all times.   The frequencies can
easily
 be
 selected by pushing the recessed buttons using a paper clip wire.
The
 frequency range is 88 to 108 MHz and the channel resolution is
100KHz.  I
 should also mention that the stereo separation is excellent!  We
tested
 this
 unit against 4 other stereo unit that did not even come close.
 The unit is housed in a very nice extruded aluminum enclosure
that
 shields the unit.  No cheap plastic box used here!  For more range a
high
 gain antenna could be used and connected to the standard BNC
connector on
 the back of the unit.
 
 If you are seriously looking for a high performance Stereo
 transmitter, this is definitely the one!
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:26 AM
 Subject: best fm transmitter
 
 
 I am looking for an fm transmitter to use with the computer.
 what  are the best ones to consider,a nd what are the prices, and
where
 can
 i buy them?
 please let me know.
 Also what are your experiences with the units you have?
 thanks
 
 
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RE: best fm transmitter

[Frank Ventura]

I always thought the long rang eBY was class 1 and the short range (10
meters) was class 2 but maybe I got those backwards.


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tim Grady
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 8:00 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: best fm transmitter

If you're talking that distance you aren't talking about bluetooth.  I
suggest you find out what bluetooth is.
On Jan 18, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:

 Hi,
 Not correct.
 Hifi vendors produce class 2 BT units that can transfer pure sound
over a
 distance of 100 ft or more.
 
 Brian
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Tim Grady
 Sent: 18. januar 2010 15:03
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
 
 You can't do that as bluetooth has very limited range and is really
meant
 for cell phone headsets, close range computer keyboards  and things
like
 that.
 On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Sunshine wrote:
 
 ok,  what kind of blue tooth device can i use then to  stream to all 
 my stereo units in my home? then?
 btw does anyone have a number for mobile black box?
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:08 PM
 Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
 
 
 hi,
 well go bluetooth instead of fm.
 
 Brian
 
 - Original Message -
 From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:31 AM
 Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
 
 
 I assume you have one of these units?
 On Jan 16, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
 
 
 
 The current version of this transmitter comes with a remote control

 that allows  the frequency to be adjusted by pushing up and down 
 buttons.  The gain control is on the front rather than on the back.
 
 It is a good unit which you can leave on for days and weeks  and
the 
 frequency will remain stable.
 
 If you buy the high gain antenna and set it up properly, it will 
 transmit up to 300 yards without significant degradation of signal.
 
 Bob Nelson
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:00 AM
 Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
 
 
 
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 - Original Message -
 From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:26 AM
 Subject: best fm transmitter
 
 
 I am looking for an fm transmitter to use with the computer.
 what  are the best ones to consider,a nd what are the prices, and 
 where can i buy them?
 please let me know.
 Also what are your experiences with the units you have?
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RE: Audio bluetooth

[Frank Ventura]

Hi the Jabra Cruiser is in current production so it should be easy to
find at the usual retail places like NewEgg and Best Buy and of course
on EBay.
Frank


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 9:38 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

High Frank,
Where can I find this device you're talking about?
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:27 AM
Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth


 Not sure how cludgy this solution is but Jabra makes a device called
the
 cruiser which is primarily designed for use in cars with Bluetoooth
cell
 phones but what it will do is take a Bluetooth stereo output and
 rebroadcast it to a FM receiver. The idea is that when a call comes in
 you can turn the Jabra on and hear the output from the phone on your
 cars FM stereo. It could also be used at home to take Bluetooth audio
 from computers, laptops, etc to a FM receiver.
 Frank
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:54 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
 
 I'm not an expert on this but I believe their to be devices around
which
 take a signal from a bluetooth device such as an Iphone and will plug
 into the line in of an audio system, speakers and so on, I've seen
 reviews of them.
 
 as for myself? Well I'm going to get a pair of dedicated bluetooth
 speakers, not saying that one approach is better than the other but
 that's what I'm doing.
 
 As for needing sighted assistance to set up bluetooth devices? Well
 that's a bit of a funny area really, I all the bluetooth devices I've
 ever set up with my Iphone have been clearly identified by the phone
so
 I've just had to confirm them and - in some cases - type in a pairing
 code on the Iphone which I've known in advance.
 
 
 On 20/01/2010, at 1:49 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
 
 High Dain.,
 Ok, so you can't pick it up with an fm receiver.
 But how does one get a blue tooth audio signal on his or her stereo
 system?
 John.
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:40 AM
 Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
 
 
 you're not missing anything and you're quite right as you can't, we
 started talking about bluetooth audio - which has nothing to do with
FM
 transmitters - so that's why I canged the subject line, after all who
 wants to see a subject line talking about FM transmitters when
someone's
 talking about Bluetooth?
 
 
 
 DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
 Hello all list members,
 I think I'm missing something here.
 But, how do you pick up a blue tooth transmition with an fm
 receiver?
 I'm just wondering where the missing links to the audio chain are
 here.
 John.
 - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen
 br...@blindkom.dk
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:31 AM
 Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth
 
 
 Hi,
 Ah cool.
 Apple normally does a great job making a good out of the box
 experience for
 the user.
 
 Brian
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: 19. januar 2010 12:03
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
 
 Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth
 profile by
 default.
 
 
 On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:
 
 Hi,
 The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth
 uses
 the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply
 sounds really bad.
 There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice
 profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable
 for
 ordinary audio.
 At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you always get
 with
 an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd never
 want
 anything but good cables. :-)
 
 Brian
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
 
 My experience in the past has been that audio quality through
 bluetooth wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my
 particular
 rig, since I see a lot of people listening to music via
bluetooth.
 I
 found it was hard to use with JAWS too since the power saving
 features
 frequently had words being chopped off. I tended to use it for
 sports more
 than anything.
 
 BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones
that
 I
 use with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to
 listen

Identifying an SB audigy sound card

[Frank Ventura]

Hi all, I have a Dell PE sc440 desktop here with a Sound Blaster Audigy
PCI sound card. There are four 1/8 inch jacks on the card. If I look at
the jacks going left to right does anyone know what each jack is for?
Also I have a 5.1 speaker system with three 1/8 inch male inputs. Can
this card drive that sort of speaker system?
Tia
Frank Ventura


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RE: Talks question

[Frank Ventura]

If you like Verizon and the Ozone, you can buy the Ozone and put
Mobilespeak on it and it will be fully accessible.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:52 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question

I also called numerous time to Verizon and it seems the Talks for the
Ozone 
only allows you to do email, texting and navigating through menus, but
not 
the Internet. At least, they say the Internet is not mentioned, like
Gary 
said, and so we are all assuming that you cannot surf with the Talks
version 
for the Verizon phone. If ATTO allowed me to get reception where I am,
I 
would opt for the Iphone, which apparently is fully accessible, but
alas, 
Verizon enables me to get reception.

Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: Talks question


 Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working 
 version?
 What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for
the
 Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.

 Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows 
 Mobile
 and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian
and
 now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when 
 talking
 about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows 
 Mobile
 version.

 I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with
anything
 selling Talks for $99. ATT sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think
that's
 the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I 
 suspect
 the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon
or
 ATT and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version
of
 the screen reader is being sold.

 --
 Christopher
 chalt...@gmail.com




 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: RE: Talks question

 Hi Lauren,

 I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work
for
 most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is
probably
 why they get away with selling it for the price they do.

 Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones,
but 
 it
 does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.

 You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on
the
 Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can
afford
 it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase
Mobile
 Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to
other
 Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get
another
 phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.

 Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to
purchase,
 which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company that I
 purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan.
They 
 do
 charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if
you
 can't get the money at once.

 You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone.  You do
however,
 need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
 You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is
not
 difficult to read texts or E-mails.  I wouldn't use a phone as my main
 source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need
it.

 Any other questions are welcomed.

 Sincerely,
 Tim Martin

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Talks question


 Hi Tim,

 Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but
I
 can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I 
 choose
 it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing
menus,
 email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great
for
 me!

 The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do
everything
 and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying
a
 Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access
what 
 I
 need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty 
 because
 of my disability.

 Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link.

 Sincerely,

 Lauren
 - Original Message -
 From: Martin, Tim A., NMDOT tim.mar...@state.nm.us
 To: PC Audio Discussion List 

RE: Virtual audio cable

[Frank Ventura]

To do that, I would set the Turtle Beach as my default sound card and
then configure JFW to use the internal (original) sound card. In sound
settings, the default recording device would be the Turtle beach card.
If the Turtle Beach card does not have stereo Mix or What you hear,
then you will need Virtual Audio Cable to connect it to your favorite
audio recorder.
Hth
Frank Ventura, MCP


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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of kb
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 6:05 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Virtual audio cable

Hey, guys and gals.  It it with great trepidation I ask this question,
but 
I'll do it anyway.

I have a cheap little turtle beach soundcard that does just have output,
but 
it sounds pretty good.  for that reason, I want to see if it is at all 
possible to do the following:

I want to have all my audio except for Jaws 8.something, go through my 
little turtle beach soundcard, and I want to be able to record those
sounds, 
Is there any way to record the output of that turtle beach using virtual

audio cable?  I have been trying to make sense out of the vac manual,
and I 
just can't seem to wrap myy brain around what it is saying.  I'm
guessing it 
won't work, but I thought I'd throw the question out th3ere.  I don't
want 
to wade through tons of stuff that I don't understand to find this out
and 
am just wondering if anyone might have any ideas out there.  Just a shot
in 
the dark and a long shot at that.

As always, tha;nks very much!

Peace,
Kathy



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RE: What you hear option not available on asus netbook

[Frank Ventura]

Yes, many sound cards, like the one you have in that netbook, don't have
that functionality. To get around this you usually can install VAC,
which is Virtual Audio Cable. I had this problem with a stream server
that is run on a virtual machine with a SB16 sound card emulated. That
SB16 doesn't have the what you hear capability but adding Virtual Audio
Cable fixed that.
Frank Ventura, MCP


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 8:54 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: What you hear option not available on asus netbook

Hi, gang!  I just purchased a lovely Asus netbook computer and notice it

doesn't have the What You Hear feature.  There are times I would love to
be 
able to talk while playing music during an on-the-road live365 show.
Short 
of buying a mixer or having to play music and then go back and add voice

recording, which sounds pretty tedious and un-spontaneous to me, is
there 
any software or anything I can do to emulate that what-you-hear feature?
I 
use Studio Recorder at this moment for my reording program.  Any help
would 
be much appreciated!

Peace,
Kathy



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RE: What you hear option not available on asus netbook

[Frank Ventura]

It doesn't have any recording functionality like Total Recorder but it
is less intrusive. It emrely creates avirtual audio device which will
capture sound you would normally hear and can be passed along to a
recorder or encoding program.
Frank Ventura, MCP

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: What you hear option not available on asus netbook

Frank, can you say more about that?  How, if at all, does it compare to 
Total Recorder (I'm guessing it does different things than TR.)  What is
the 
cost and where can I find it?  I know I can Google it, but I want a good

source from which to purchase it if I decide it's the way to go.  MIght
just 
stick with Total Recorder which I do know some about, but just want to
know 
about the different options and advantages.  Vac is something I've not
heard 
of till you mentioned it.  Thanks lots!

Peace,
Kathy



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http://www.fredkate.libsyn.com

- Original Message - 
From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: What you hear option not available on asus netbook


| Yes, many sound cards, like the one you have in that netbook, don't
have
| that functionality. To get around this you usually can install VAC,
| which is Virtual Audio Cable. I had this problem with a stream server
| that is run on a virtual machine with a SB16 sound card emulated. That
| SB16 doesn't have the what you hear capability but adding Virtual
Audio
| Cable fixed that.
| Frank Ventura, MCP
|
|
| -Original Message-
| From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
| [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey
| Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 8:54 AM
| To: PC Audio Discussion List
| Subject: What you hear option not available on asus netbook
|
| Hi, gang!  I just purchased a lovely Asus netbook computer and notice
it
|
| doesn't have the What You Hear feature.  There are times I would love
to
| be
| able to talk while playing music during an on-the-road live365 show.
| Short
| of buying a mixer or having to play music and then go back and add
voice
|
| recording, which sounds pretty tedious and un-spontaneous to me, is
| there
| any software or anything I can do to emulate that what-you-hear
feature?
| I
| use Studio Recorder at this moment for my reording program.  Any help
| would
| be much appreciated!
|
| Peace,
| Kathy
|
|
|
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RE: Losing speech when Recording from my usb turntable

[Frank Ventura]

Once you plug in the USB turntable your computer is seeing the turntable
as the default synthesizer and is trying to use that and that is why you
can't hear JAWS. The solution to this is to edit the JFW.ini file to
force JFW to use your normal sound card. Then plug in your turntable.
You may have to shutdown and restart JFW if the turntable wrestles JFW
away from your normal sound card.
Frank Ventura, MCP

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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Schindler
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:03 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Losing speech when Recording from my usb turntable

You'll need youir external synthesizer because you won't have any sound.

- Original Message - 
From: Randy Tijerina rtijeri...@satx.rr.com
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:34 PM
Subject: Losing speech when Recording from my usb turntable


 Friends, let me try to describe what's happening.
 I'm using a model of crosley turntable that's got a usb connection.
 Now, here's where people get stumped.
 I try to plug in my usb cable that's connected to my stereo in to my 
 computer, but I lose all instances of speech.
 i have an external synthesizer, but I wonder if that will matter?
 !I need all the help I can get!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Losing speech when Recording from my usb turntable

[Frank Ventura]

Do a search on either the archives of this list or directly on Freedom
Scientific's web site. The directions for editing the jfw.ini file to
tell JFW what sound card to use have been posted a few times. You can
also call FS Tech support.
Frank Ventura, MCP

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Randy Tijerina
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 8:09 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Losing speech when Recording from my usb turntable

Now tell me what do I have to do. or how do I do this?
I really want to give this a try. Can you help me?

- Original Message - 
From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 6:33 PM
Subject: RE: Losing speech when Recording from my usb turntable


 Once you plug in the USB turntable your computer is seeing the
turntable
 as the default synthesizer and is trying to use that and that is why
you
 can't hear JAWS. The solution to this is to edit the JFW.ini file to
 force JFW to use your normal sound card. Then plug in your turntable.
 You may have to shutdown and restart JFW if the turntable wrestles JFW
 away from your normal sound card.
 Frank Ventura, MCP
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Schindler
 Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:03 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Losing speech when Recording from my usb turntable
 
 You'll need youir external synthesizer because you won't have any
sound.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Randy Tijerina rtijeri...@satx.rr.com
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:34 PM
 Subject: Losing speech when Recording from my usb turntable
 
 
 Friends, let me try to describe what's happening.
 I'm using a model of crosley turntable that's got a usb connection.
 Now, here's where people get stumped.
 I try to plug in my usb cable that's connected to my stereo in to my 
 computer, but I lose all instances of speech.
 i have an external synthesizer, but I wonder if that will matter?
 !I need all the help I can get!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: simplified broadcast softwear for streaming

[Frank Ventura]

VCheck out Simplecast or SAM broadcaster from SpacialAudio.
Frank Ventura, MCP

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Seed
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 4:08 PM
To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: simplified broadcast softwear for streaming

Hello everyone:
I am looking for an accessible streaming broadcast softwear package that
is jaws friendly. I find that there is simply too much information on
the windows player that I will not be using. As I will only be streaming
audio information files all that I want the schedualler to do is to play
the lineup of information that I put into it in a sequence. As the
information package will be fast paced the player must be capable of
keeping the flow of audio information tight. Once I put the audio files
together I will then upload it to a server to be streamed on line. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.   

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station playlist streamer

[Frank Ventura]

Hello all, I have an old PC in my basement in which I have ripped most
of my CDs on to. I want to be able to have them playing in random
(shuffle) mode and be able to listen to it on any of my other PCs in the
house (3 PCs and two wireless laptops). I have come across a program
called Station Playlist Streamer which sounds like it may do what I need
for around $100. Does anyone have any information on this product? Will
it do what I need it to do and is it accessible with a screen reader?
Tia
Frank


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