Re: Broken Spotmatic
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, petit miam wrote: Uh, sorry nowhere near. Wrong Hemisphere. I am in Gisborne, New Zealand. Probably no-one in Gisborne - Well, we do have one list member in New Zealand. Did you want to submit your name for our geography poll? If you haven't heard of it yet, read on Hi! Please have a look at this if you haven't seen it yet From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 9 11:31:01 2001 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 09:30:57 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Geography poll (please read!) In case you missed the first message, here's a recap of what's going on: I'm asking everyone to e-mail me off-list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and give me their location (country, province/state, and city) so that I can put together a list of where we all live and post it (or a link to it) to the group. This will give us a better idea of how diverse our list is and will let us know who from the group lives nearby. Hopefully this will result in more of us getting together to shoot, attend workshops, etc. For this reason, please provide your current address and not your country of birth if they're different. If you're going to be moving in a few weeks, you can use that city instead of your current one. Please e-mail me off-list for this, so if you hit "reply" to this message make sure it's going to me, not back to the group. So far we have 54 people, but that still leaves a lot left to go, so please take a second to mail me your country, province/state and city. Thanks! chris We're up to over 100 now, so it's coming along nicely, but we don't have everyone yet. :) Thanks! chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Got a new LX
Hi, I got an LX, its mint cosmetic condition except for one tiny rub from the clips for the strap. But now i have noticed an interesting thing. The camera wont focus to infinity, any ideas why this is? everything else seems fine, the mirrors not even sticky, yet! Also how do i take the strap clips off? Thanks - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
which eyepiece diopter for mx?
oops, made a mistake my glasses are -1.75 and -2, so I'm nearsighted. I asked Pentax NL this same question and they say I need the -1 diopter, so I guess the diopter of viewfinder and adapter do add up. BTW. the diopter lens and adapter come as two seperate products. anyone know if you can add an eyecup onto the diopter adapter? Frank Hi, I'm getting fed up with focussing with my glasses on so I want to get an eyepiece diopter for my MX. Which one do I need. I saw in the manual that the diopter of the finder is -0.6, my glasses are 1.75, so I get I need the -1 or the -2 diopter. So does the diopter on the eyepiece diopter add up to the finder or not? Frank - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
difference between a winder and a motordrive?
Hi, anyone know the difference between a winder and a motordrive? Frank - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Shopping for a new body
Mark Roberts wrote: If I were shopping for a new camera right now (and I may be later this year) I'd be considering the MZ-S and the PZ-1p. Although there are many differences between the two, the ones that would affect my decision would be the better viewfinder (from what we've heard so far), faster standard flash sync and faster winder speed on the PZ-1p versus the better autofocus and the electronic depth-of-field preview of the MZ-S. It'd be a *really* close call. Probably determined by price. Isn't this interesting? That Pentax comes up with a new "flagship" after 7 years, which is NOT significantly better than the old one? I am thinking about a new body for my MF lenses. So, I am not interested in the better AF-system. What's left? "electronic depth-of-field preview" - not needed, manual is ok. "Illuminated lens mount index" - not needed, gimmick "data imprinting between frames" - this is interesting, but is it worth that much more money? Price is on the side of the Z-1p. Best wishes Wieland - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Eyepoint
I am wearing glasses, and I have ABSOLUTELY NO problem with the MX viewfinder. I can see the apperture very easily. And everything else. Either you folks have a different MX, or never had an MX or you have very different glasses. :-) Best wishes Wieland - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Report from PMA
Recently Bob Walkden wrote: An all-rounder is a camera like the LX which could be used for the full range of 35mm activities at the time. From scientific, macro and copy work, through the point-and-shoot functionality of the day, to heavy-duty photojournalism. A camera which can't do all of these things is not an all-rounder. Hi Bob, You are definitely wrong. :-) An all arounder is one that is not well-enough suited to any particular job. At least, that seems to be the new-world definiton... Cheers, Boz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Got a new LX
Paul Jones writes: I got an LX, its mint cosmetic condition except for one tiny rub from the clips for the strap. But now i have noticed an interesting thing. The camera wont focus to infinity, any ideas why this is? A $150 CLA and upgrades from Pentax USA should make the focus "right as rain". My used LX had the same problem, and a slight sticky mirror problem on shutter release. All of that, and a new ISO resistor (they wear out and get dirty), and a replaced self timer/dof preview button. It was quite the good deal, and my LX works perfectly like new now. The focus problem is due to where the mirror lands after each shot, and related to wear in the foam rubber bumpers inside. everything else seems fine, the mirrors not even sticky, yet! Sounds like it is in better shape than mine was! Enjoy! Cheers, Gerald - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The AF assist beam / body for MF only
Joseph McAllister wrote: On my PZ-1p, the IR (red) projector is a small round (clear looking) lens built in to the flash's lens. It projects a series of 3 to 5 vertical bars that give the AF something with vertical edges. Thanks for this information! How good is this working? How far is the beam reaching? Is it useful for manual focussing? A split image screen would be ideal! Is that avalable? I have heard it is not. Does it need much battery? Best wishes Wieland - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S: AF sensors?
David wrote: DAM Apologies if I've missed this, but do we know what kind of AF sensors the DAM MZ-S has? Are we still limited to focussing on vertical lines or will we get DAM cross-sensors now? The orientation and layout of AF sensors is as follows: +-+ |-| | ||-|| | | | +-+ Servus, Alin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S noise...
Hi! I believe that none of you have actually yet taken any photos with the new camera (MZ-S)... but many have already started to complain about missing features and missing bells and whistles. It's a fact that ALL and every camera (and other technical gadgets) always miss some features and the design is a compromise. C'mon... Pentax developed a nice small metal body with nice new features and improvements (like new multi point AF and imprinting etc.). Compare it to the big ugly monsters from the others: it's true some of them have features that sound like pulled out from a science fiction movie and they are bulky.. but honestly.. do they take that much better pictures ?? I find the new MZ-S very nice according to the facts published up to now. Also, a matching new digital body... I'd say this is not bad, not bad at all! Spring time is coming close, get your cameras and go shoot some film! It will relax your nerves :-) Antti-Pekka --- * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * GSM: +358 400 789753 * * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 2 413 * - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: what's the difference between a wnider and a motordrive?
Answer A: About 100+ (Tad! Who needs surreal comedy when there are crackers like this left lying around for anyone to use?) Answer B: The winder does just that. About the same speed as using your thumb, but quicker because you don't need to move the camera from your eye. Usually an option for single frame or continuous drive. Self contained. May have other functions. Motordrive is usually faster, has more options (such as variable speed, interval shooting, etc.) and often has a separate power source(s). Both may have a remote release of some type. mike (PDML BALPA spokesman) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital pair of MZ-S @ PMA
Tuesday, February 13, 2001, 12:47:21 PM Of course I meant PMA. Photokina is now dust and buried... I wrote: AF Tuesday, February 13, 2001, 12:23:18 PM AF Some of the CdI gleans at Photokina for those that don't read AF French. Original text and details pictures at AF http://www.photim.net/PMA/PMA-Live-4.htm. AF CdI guys effectively had it in their hands and gave it a full run. AF Contrary to their previous acid criticism at Photokina, this time AF comments are almost eulogistic. AF - very reactive autofocus AF - ergonomics are particularly original and successful. AF - for a camera that ambitious due to its 6 MPixel CCD, it's AF remarkably compact AF - excellent integration of electronic layout: commands are AF performed via a small wheel on the left of the LCD screen, that AF selects by rotation and confirms by pressure. AF - PCMCIA and CompactFlash slots in the bottom grip, possibly AF allowing modem communications or GPS connection. AF - FireWire connector AF - the sample they tested is already operational - they could take AF and preview pictures but digital signal processing is still under AF development AF - again the $7000 rumour is pushed, as well as the summer AF availability. AF Interestingly, it appears that Pentax is more advanced than Contax AF despite the technological similitudes. Apparently Contax D sample is AF still in the dummy state. AF Servus, Alin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S
I want to lead the attention of the audience to the clear cut statement of the press release, that the MZ-S offers "magnesium covers at the four most important places". This fits perfect to the comments and pictures published so far. The four places likely are: 1 retractable flash cover 2 bottom cover 3 top cover 4 front (or less likely back) This leaves the sides, grip and back (less likely front), plus the interior for polycarbonate (the mirror housing and film guides are metal reinforced again). Hence there is no heavy duty full metal body, but the class typical material mix very similar to Elan 7. The price of the camera should indeed be in the $800 range, anything else would be laughable. Ralf - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Eyepoint
Weiland wrote: --- "I am wearing glasses, and I have ABSOLUTELY NO problem with the MX viewfinder. I can see the aperture very easily. And everything else. Either you folks have a different MX, or never had an MX or you have very different glasses. :-) Best wishes Wieland --- Hi Wieland, I don't know which posting you are referring to, but or my part: I didn't wrote about eyepoint I wrote about the "viewing distance" to the screen. That meant the distance, the eye has to adjust when looking at the screen. If this is too short, the eyes will get tiered soon when continually looking to the viewfinder. (In contrast is "the eyepoint, or eye relief, indicates how far your eye can be from the viewfinder to see the entire image" -- see posting from Erwin Vereecken) Speaking about the MX, this distance is definitely too short. The viewing distance of the aperture indication is way too short. People on this list tend to be very uncritical about cameras or lenses that they are in love with, - in particular when it comes to those vintage gear :) ... I like the MX too but it has definitely shortcomings (no wonder it's 25 years old design). One of them this the viewfinder. Alexander __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S better than Z-1p?
Wieland wrote: Pl, what is up? First you've said again and again, that the MZ-S IS NOT the flagship and we can await something really cool later and now you say it IS the flagship and it IS cool, The MZ-S is not THE flagship meaning there will be a camera above it. The MZ-S is indeed the current flagship and the flagship of the MZ-line. when it is obvious that is not much better than the Z-1p (if at all)? Its obvious to me that the MZ-S is in a completely different league than the Z-1p. With these max fps and top shutterspeed arguments it can be argued that the Z-1p is in the same class as the EOS-1v; after all the only difference between them is a few extra focus point and some fps for the EOS-1v. It doesn't work that way. On a pure feature count basis the MZ-S surpasses the Z-1p. The max shutter speed is only 1/4 stop lower; totally insignificant. The difference in flash synch speed is 1/2 stop. However, the MZ-S can indeed synch at 1/250s and the loss in guide number at this speed is probably hardly measureable. The only thing going for the the Z-1p is slightly higher fps. If Pentax' claim of LX durability is to be believed, then the MZ-S is a pure pro camera specified for more than 100 000 shutter cycles putting it firmly in F5 and EOS-1 territory. In comparison the Z-1p is shutter cycle is somewhere between 25 000-50 000. We are talking about a totally different league of camera if Pentax isn't bullshitting us. I doubt however that Pentax would have claimed LX durability if it wasn't true. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Got a new LX
The focus problem is caused by the same worn out mirror bumpers as the sticky mirror problem. Like most used LX cameras, it will require a sticky mirror fix. Are you in the Us? Pentax USA does it for around $170 along with an overall CLA. (And they seem to have gotten better at it in recent months.) I believe the Pentax repair facilities in other parts of the world provide a similar service. Paul Paul Jones wrote: Hi, I got an LX, its mint cosmetic condition except for one tiny rub from the clips for the strap. But now i have noticed an interesting thing. The camera wont focus to infinity, any ideas why this is? everything else seems fine, the mirrors not even sticky, yet! Also how do i take the strap clips off? Thanks - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New to the group
Len Paris wrote: You can't screw the MZ-S because it's a K-mount camera. You'll have to bayonet it, instead. :-) Lucky for me, I have a K-to-screw adaptor. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Manual Gear; was Re: News from PMA...
Alan Chan wrote: ... Car manufacturers still make 5 speed manual, don't they (would you be one of these drivers)? ... Just a little folklore: Here in Italy there are probably about 0.5% automatic gear cars. If you drive one you either are disabled or a sissy. Or both. Everybody here wants to be a formula 1 pilot. We have about 1 cell phone every other person, though... Flavio (who's getting an automatic one, though) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Got a new LX
Hi, I think i can see the problem inside... I;m actualy in Australia and the pentax distributar is a company called CR Kennedy. I'm not sure what there like or how much there going to charge me I remember a few weeks some one on the list from Australia had sent there LX to CR Kennedy for a CLA, wouldnt mind know how they went and how much it cost. Any one got any reccomendations for a repair shop in Mellbourne? Thanks - Original Message - From: "PAUL STENQUIST" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 10:26 PM Subject: Re: Got a new LX The focus problem is caused by the same worn out mirror bumpers as the sticky mirror problem. Like most used LX cameras, it will require a sticky mirror fix. Are you in the Us? Pentax USA does it for around $170 along with an overall CLA. (And they seem to have gotten better at it in recent months.) I believe the Pentax repair facilities in other parts of the world provide a similar service. Paul Paul Jones wrote: Hi, I got an LX, its mint cosmetic condition except for one tiny rub from the clips for the strap. But now i have noticed an interesting thing. The camera wont focus to infinity, any ideas why this is? everything else seems fine, the mirrors not even sticky, yet! Also how do i take the strap clips off? Thanks - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
Here in Norway the MZ-S will cost appoximately $1700. Ho-ho. They hope for mid March. I'll get one. It has LX built quality and sealing. This is a pro camera. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: what's the difference between a wnider and a motordrive?
In a message dated 2/13/01 6:13:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: has more options (such as variable speed, interval shooting, etc.) And vertical release for the Motor "A" Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
$1700us ? Ouch! From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!! Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:02:50 +0100 Here in Norway the MZ-S will cost appoximately $1700. Ho-ho. They hope for mid March. I'll get one. It has LX built quality and sealing. This is a pro camera. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Money-saving darkroom
Colin wrote: I've been trying to do it cheap, so ... A paper deal:Midwest Photo has RCIII/E 100cnt boxes 4x5 for $9 Safelight deal: Home Depot (home repair shop) has 7 1/2 watt red lights for $1.35 each. (beats $10 in the camera shops!) Any else have other ideas/sources ? Sure. For trays and measuring beakers, use pyrex baking trays and measuring cups from the supermarket. They're inert, clean well, last a long time if you maintain them, and they're cheap. For a timer, use a metronome. Sold at all music stores. Set it for sixty beats a minute and count seconds. For an enlarging lens, look for one called an "Omicron-El." They were made for Omega by Nikon in the '70s and '80s and they're very good quality enlarging lenses that never sell for anywhere near what El-Nikkors do. For drying racks, use pre-made plastic window screens from the hardware store. If you want to get fancy you can build a rack for them, but you can also simply stack them on top of each other. They work fine. If you print RC, just hang them by the corner using wooden clothespins to dry. For a squeegee to use for squeegeeing fiber prints, use a rubber window squeegee from the hardware store or a windshield wiper blade from an auto parts store. For a sink, use a tabletop or countertop. Just wipe it down after you're finished. Print processing temperature isn't critical and works fine at ambient room temperatures. If you want to get cheap about chemicals it requires some calculation. You can buy the raw chemicals and make perfectly good solutions mixing your own, but you need to work out amounts in advance so that you don't overbuy anything. Also, you need to use them all up in order to realize the savings--if you buy ten pounds of sodium sulfite and then give up photography before you've used three pounds, you will have lost money, not saved it. However, "measuring spoon" conversions are easy to work out, so that you can mix up the chemicals you need in a jiffy without a scale. There's one more really good moneysaving tip, but I just can't remember it right now. Middle-aged moment? s --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: News from PMA - MZ-S and other stuff
Frantisek wrote: (why Leica made such ugly and big slr when their rf cameras are so cute and small is out of my imagination... R8 also looks like it's been made by a designer on a bad trip, imho. I much prefer the early German hardware (like Contax S, Contaxes, Leicas #,M3,...) to those strange ugly R8 slrs. Frantisek, I totally agree, which is one reason I got chased off the Leica User Group. If you think it's bad saying anything bad about Pentax here, trying saying something negative about Leica over there. They set upon you like a pack of dogs. g When the original designer of the Leica, Oskar Barnack, considered adding a rangefinder to his original design, he was adamant that it not increase the size of the camera unecessarily. Leica lost sight of that principle with the R8. Although, really, the whole point of Leica R is that wonderful lens line. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
Is that USD or Krone?? Evan Pl Jensen wrote: Here in Norway the MZ-S will cost appoximately $1700. Ho-ho. They hope for mid March. I'll get one. It has LX built quality and sealing. This is a pro camera. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: News from PMA - MZ-S and other stuff
In a message dated 2/13/01 2:38:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...The grip of Z-1p is not bad either, just that my last finger did not have a good grip since the body is a bit short. My thoughts precisely. Perhaps the MZ-S with booster should do a fine job of filling up the hand. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Shopping for a new body
Recently Wieland Willker wrote: Isn't this interesting? That Pentax comes up with a new "flagship" after 7 years, which is NOT significantly better than the old one? I am thinking about a new body for my MF lenses. So, I am not interested in the better AF-system. In other words: "The new camera has a better AF system, but I am not interested in AF. So the new camera is NOT better than the old one." That's not logic that I can agree with. My thoughts on the MZ-S are that FOR ME it is not worth upgrading. The only significant advantage FOR ME is the data imprinting and pseudo MLU. If Paal is right with his $1700 price for the MZ-S, I am not willing to spend that much money for these features. I am disappointed that the MZ-S will not do flash compensation with my AF500FTZ flash, and will probably not work with my current remote cord F. At this point I have a 5n for casual AF shooting and an LX for serious MF work. If I din't have the 5n, however, I would be hot on the MZ-S. Cheers, Boz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Manual Gear; was Re: News from PMA...
Recently Flavio Minelli wrote about Italy: Everybody here wants to be a formula 1 pilot. Not only do they want to, they practice hard on the way to work too... After my trip to Italy I had a real problem fitting back into the German road-behavior requirements :-) We have about 1 cell phone every other person, though... Yep, the proprtion of stick-shifts in Europe is definitely not related to the income or the "forward-thinking"... Here in Italy there are probably about 0.5% automatic gear cars. If you drive one you either are disabled or a sissy. Or both. Flavio (who's getting an automatic one, though) Oh-oh-oh... I am not even going to ask the obvious question... 3:-) Cheers, Boz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
So approximately what would you expect that to equate to in U.S. dollars? And are you talking list price or sell price? Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "Pl Jensen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 7:02 AM Subject: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!! Here in Norway the MZ-S will cost appoximately $1700. Ho-ho. They hope for mid March. I'll get one. It has LX built quality and sealing. This is a pro camera. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Someone got a good deal
There's been a couple of those lately. Last week a K-1000 w/ 50/2 went for $69. I cried. ;( Collin At 12:35 AM 2/13/01 -0500, you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1214454113 K1000, M50/2, and K100/4 Macro all for $100. Wish I were him/her. Gerald *** "The accumulation of all powers legislative, executive and judiciary in the same hands . . . may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny." --James Madison, Federalist 47 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
I wrote: Here in Norway the MZ-S will cost appoximately $1700. Ho-ho. They hope for mid March. I'll get one. It has LX built quality and sealing. This is a pro camera. Of course it should be mid March delivery. This price turns into about 1000 (the same as earlier estimates) and in the US a price around $1200+. Expect US mailorder price to be around $900 - 1000. In Norway it cost 14000Nkr which todays valuta rates turns into 1065 or ~1600 USD (not 1700 as I posted previously - the dollar was higher than I anticipated) Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Eyepoint
Alexander Krohe wrote: Speaking about the MX, this distance is definitely too short. The viewing distance of the aperture indication is way too short. What is too short? I don't understand this. Should it be farther away? Why? I can see and read it perfectly. People on this list tend to be very uncritical about cameras or lenses that they are in love with, I am not in love with the MX. I use several as workhorses. They are good. I am not uncritical. But maybe I just haven't seen enough different viewfinders to understand what you mean. I have seen the MZ series and they are worse. I can only say that I wear glasses and I have absolutely no problem with the MX viewfinder, so I was quite surprised to read this. Best wishes Wieland - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Manual Gear; was Re: News from PMA...
If I can't drive for McLaren or Ferrari, I won't drive at all. Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "Bojidar Dimitrov" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 7:51 AM Subject: Re: OT: Manual Gear; was Re: News from PMA... Recently Flavio Minelli wrote about Italy: Everybody here wants to be a formula 1 pilot. Not only do they want to, they practice hard on the way to work too... After my trip to Italy I had a real problem fitting back into the German road-behavior requirements :-) We have about 1 cell phone every other person, though... Yep, the proprtion of stick-shifts in Europe is definitely not related to the income or the "forward-thinking"... Here in Italy there are probably about 0.5% automatic gear cars. If you drive one you either are disabled or a sissy. Or both. Flavio (who's getting an automatic one, though) Oh-oh-oh... I am not even going to ask the obvious question... 3:-) Cheers, Boz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: News from PMA - MZ-S and other stuff
Dave So, a Pentax market survey involves asking just Pl what he wants in the next camera? :) Did they ask anyone else? Sure. MZ-size, nifty features from the Z-1p, and LX built was pretty much the message from the Pentax user base. Pentax have been listening more to their customers than even I have given them credit for. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
Mafud wrote: Expect US mailorder price to be around $900 - 1000 Oh-oh. That's EOS 1n (sans booster) terriitory. Do make some rooms for errors here; this is a guesstimate based on the Norwegian price approximately converted into US conditions based on my experience in Norwegian vs. US prices. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: News from PMA - MZ-S and other stuff
On 13 Feb 2001, at 7:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My thoughts precisely. Perhaps the MZ-S with booster should do a fine job of filling up the hand. And emptying the pocket, so it appears :-( Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Durability: was: Re: MZ-S better than Z-1p?
Good point Mafud! The truth of the matter is, we have an idea of how durable the PZ-1p is. The new camera is as yet unproven. I see a distinct tendency by some to simply equate newer with better. The new MZ-S is just the next PZ-1p. I think taking any features away or downgrading specs from the PZ-1p was a mistake. I also agree with Wieland. At the MZ-S price point, where's the big advantage? To tell you the truth I've always been happy with the PZ-1p AF (except with my 80-320). Tom C. Maufud wrote: Speaking of the durability of the PZ-1p: how many on the list have worn out a PZ-1p; or know of someone wearing out a PZ-1p; and after how many tens of thousands of frames? What's *your* frame/roll count on *your* PZ-1p? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Print Film Choices
Hello , Eric ! Try FUJI Superia films with 4-th layer. For You best is FUJI Superia 400 , but for racing best choice is Superia 800. Good luck with Your pictures , Raivo http://home.delfi.ee/tiikmaa --- Ühe e-maili aadressi asemel 5! Uuri järgi - http://www.hot.ee
Re: Print Film Choices
--- Erik Nylander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Everyone, I am looking to try out some better print films and need some advise. I tend to shoot a lot of outdoor landscape/wildlife scenes and sports. I am not looking for a single film to fill all jobs just some suggestions on what to try out. I prefer to shoot in color but would love to try out a nice fast BW film especially for the sports shots. TIA, Erik - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . For high-speed color film I use Fuji NPS (400) and/or NPH (800). I onced pushed NPH to 3200 to shoot an indoor hockey practice available and the results were excellent! Can post pix from that later if any would like to see them. For black and white I use Ilford's HP5 Plus which I push to 3200 *very* regularly and *love* the results. I develop in Kodak TMax Pro. Almost all the high school football that I shot last season was shot with this film and rating. Nick __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Report from PMA
Bob Walkden wrote: Erwin Vereecken wrote: [...] I agree, I think we are looking at a nice robust all-rounder And then Bob said: a camera which does not address the concerns of a fairly large part of the market cannot be considered an all-rounder. An all-rounder is a camera like the LX which could be used for the full range of 35mm activities at the time. From scientific, macro and copy work, through the point-and-shoot functionality of the day, to heavy-duty photojournalism. A camera which can't do all of these things is not an all-rounder. I agree with your definition of an "all-rounder" but I also feel that the MZ-S ~does~ address the concerns and needs of a large part of the market, which is the general consumer, who is not particularly interested in macro photography, photo journalism, astro photography, or scientific photography. They want some whiz-bang features that make shooting painless, and which they can use for family photos and travel pictures. None of my non-photographer friends have ever done anything other than point and shoot with their gear. Never have they even adjusted exposure to compensate for back lighting of the subject, used more than the standard fixed or a simple zoom lens, and rarely, if ever, used a tripod. In fact, none of them even have a tripod. Photography is no longer just for photographers. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It's about time we started to take photography seriously and treat it as a hobby. -- Elliott Erwitt - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
New flash! Say it isn't so!
Looking at the pix of the new flash I am shocked to see that it looks very much like that it cannot swivel! Please someone tell me this is not so! It appears as though the control/LCD panel extend up and behind the flash head, which would make swivelling immpossible, no? Nick __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: P-TTL?
P-TTL, if I'm not mistaken, would be 'pre'-TTL in which a brief pre flash is emmited to allow the camera to better judge the proper exposure of a flash picture. Similiar to systems that Big C N already have. This feature would be great for portraiture but useless for anything photojournalistic where *the moment* is all that matters. Nick --- Matti Etelapera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just read an old Photokina report by Ralf Engelmann (http://www.mtu-net.ru/penta/archive/4/exhibition/photokina_eng.htm) and made some observations on the new flash. I haven't heard of a P-TTL flash before. Maybe this is a 6-segment TTL flash metering mode? Does anyone have good suggestions what the little (M/C/S) -switch near the bottom of the flash does? -Matti Eteläperä - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: News from PMA - MZ-S and other stuff
OK Pal - Just WHEN did Pentax ask YOU and WHEN did they inform YOU of a customer survey? I can't help but find most of your statements either hubris or conjecture if they're not backed up by credible evidence (dates, time, names). Tom C. -Original Message- From: Pl Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 8:47 AM Subject: Re: News from PMA - MZ-S and other stuff Dave So, a Pentax market survey involves asking just Pl what he wants in the next camera? :) Did they ask anyone else? Sure. MZ-size, nifty features from the Z-1p, and LX built was pretty much the message from the Pentax user base. Pentax have been listening more to their customers than even I have given them credit for. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Camera Durability
Mafud wrote: Speaking of the durability of the PZ-1p: how many on the list have worn out a PZ-1p; or know of someone wearing out a PZ-1p; and after how many tens of thousands of frames? Geeez! I haven't even been able to wear out my old H2, even though *somebody* has been using it since 1959! Then there's the H1's and the SP F the SuperProgram, ProgramPlus MESuper. (a Spotmatic a Spotmatic II are both out of commission though due to some mechanical mirror-flip linkage hangup. Hmmm - anyone need some "parts/fixable?" screwmount Pentaxes ?? off-list w/ offer if interested) !8^D - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PENTAX MX RELIABILITY SURVEY
jeepgirl wrote: I suspect that the vast majority of readers of this group put less than 50 rolls a year through all their bodies combined! [Was that part quoting someone else?] i think this would be interesting to know, coming from a girl who shot 42 rolls of film in two weeks 2000: 150 rolls 1999: 149 rolls 1998: 118 rolls 1997: 94 rolls (didn't start shooting until late Spring) 42 rolls in two weeks sounds right -- at Pennsic I shoot about 20 rolls (+/-5) in just under a week. Some non-shooting weeks the rest of the year bring the average back down again. Sixteen and a half rolls so far in 2001. -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Durability: was: Re: MZ-S better than Z-1p?
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's *your* frame/roll count on *your* PZ-1p? Hmmm... let's see... I'm up to close to 1,000 rolls without a single hiccup. Well, except that the bottom plate cracked, but that's not hindering my shooting. It's just a little bitty crack, not even 1/8 inch long but annoying especially since I have not dropped this camera (knock on wood). :) Nick __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
lenses
Title: Clear Day What's the difference between SMC and TAKUMAR lenses? Which gives best quality? Thanks
Re: Pentax LZ-A?
Bob Walkden wrote: Possibly. In these little aeroplanes it is in fact very easy to get through to the cabin. When I was flying over Lake Tana I was rather disconcerted when the cabin door rolled upon and revealed the pilot peering at a fully-open map held against the windscreen. :o) I had to laugh at that. Reminds me of a flight I had in Peru - small plane with a capacity of 10 or 12 passengers. No cabin door, just a curtain, which was left open most of the time. Poor guy in front of me had to use the bathroom and was very upset to find out there was none vbg. The co-pilot suggested he use the barf bag, which upset him even more. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Shopping for a new body
Hi Doug ... You said: If I wanted a manual focus camera, I would choose neither the PZ-1p nor the MZ-S, because there are far better manual focus cameras out there at much cheaper prices. What cameras can you buy new that are manual focus and which are cheaper than what one can buy a PZ-1p for - besides the MZ-M? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Durability: was: Re: MZ-S better than Z-1p?
John Francis wrote: I wrote: My older one used to belong to a NASCAR photographer and is beat to *hell*. The LCD is cracked, the AF motor is slower than on my new body, but it keeps humming along Did you get it from Charlotte Camera? That was the back story on the big lens I bought from them. Nowadays it has moved on to better things - CART, ALMS, Vintage, ... :-) Yep, also got his 85/1.4 and 28-70/2.8...all a little scarred, but functioning perfectly. They're not leading such a glamorous life, however...weddings, portraits, cats, landscapes when I get a chance. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S better than Z-1p?
The price of any product isn't necessarily determined in regard to the price of other products. There are a number of other factors that must be considered. Most important are these three: How many people will buy the camera if we price it at $. Will we sell all we can produce at that price? Will we make enough money to recover our investment and begin making a profit in a reasonable amount of time? I'm sure Pentax doesn't expect all of us to run out and buy the MZ-S. If we were to do that, it would be certain evidence that it was underpriced. And if we expand that purchase rate to the entire universe of Pentax users and enthusiasts, production couldn't possibly keep up. So rejection by a certain number of potential buyers is obviously going to happen. It's a good thing. Pl Jensen wrote: Wieland wrote: This is not obvious to me. Ok, what is so much better with the MZ-S that is is almost trice the price of the Z-1p? (if your $1700 is correct). durability - ok. AF is better but one should expect this for a newer camera after 7 years at no cost. Maybe the same logic that make the F100 cost way more than the Z-1p? Remember also that Pentax has been litterally dumping the Z-1p the last years. When released the Z-1p costed the same as the Nikon F90. Late in life of the F90 it sold for $900 while the Z-1p was reduced to $500 (B+H). So a new Z-1p would costed significantly more than the current one. I have no problem with the price of the MZ-S and I doubt anyone else would have had if it was a Nikon. Imagine the MZ-S made by Nikon as the F100 Compact. Sold for the same price as the F100. Marketed at those who want F100 qualities but in a smaller body. Nikon would have said that compensate for the slower motor, they had added mirror prefire (made the Nikon users wild), data imprinting, an extra AF point, mid roll rewind with memory. I can see all the whining on Pentax discuss wanting this Nikon compact to be a Pentax- Luckily it is. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Durability: was: Re: MZ-S better than Z-1p?
tom wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure. Is there a way to tell? My older one used to belong to a NASCAR photographer and is beat to *hell*. The LCD is cracked, the AF motor is slower than on my new body, but it keeps humming along Did you get it from Charlotte Camera? That was the back story on the big lens I bought from them. Nowadays it has moved on to better things - CART, ALMS, Vintage, ... :-) -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New MZ-S Features?
dick graham wrote: There are 2 features that I still don't know if this camera has, flash compensation and mid roll rewind with leader left out. Looks like you'll have to do flash comp like on the 5n. OTOH, not only does it leave the leader out, when you reload it it knows how far to advance the film. Pretty cool. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S better than Z-1p?
Pl Jensen wrote: When released the Z-1p costed the same as the Nikon F90. That might have been true in your part of the world, but it was most definitely not true in the USA. I bought a PZ-1p as soon as they hit the mail-order stores, and I paid $650. I think an N90 *still* costs more than that - in any case, the N90 of the time cost a lot more than $650 (I believe around $900). -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S better than Z-1p?
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, [iso-8859-1] Pål Jensen wrote: On a pure feature count basis the MZ-S surpasses the Z-1p. The max shutter speed is only 1/4 stop lower; totally insignificant. The difference between 1/6000 and 1/8000 is half a stop, right? 1/4000 to 1/8000 is a full stop, so I assumed that 1/6000 will be halfway between them. :) Aside from nitpicking, I agree with Paal's point that the MZ-S has more (though different) features than the Z1-p. Of course, the MZ-7 has more (and different) features than the MZ-5n, though that doesn't make it a better camer for some people. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: News from PMA - MZ-S and other stuff
Paul wrote: All manufacturers of expensive consumer goods conduct product clinics before they commit to production. They bring a bunch of people into a secure room and show them both the new product and competitive merchandise. Then they quiz them in regard to the inclusion or exclusion of particular features, styling, price points, etc. It's established business practice. I'm sure Pentax does it. Paul, I agree, but I'll bet everyone in the room spoke Japanese! Regards, Bob S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S better than Z-1p?
Having had the opportunity to review a reasonable number of product programs, I have observed that products that have their pricing/specs set without regard to competition are seldom successful in meeting their other objectives. PAUL STENQUIST wrote: The price of any product isn't necessarily determined in regard to the price of other products. There are a number of other factors that must be considered. Most important are these three: How many people will buy the camera if we price it at $. Will we sell all we can produce at that price? Will we make enough money to recover our investment and begin making a profit in a reasonable amount of time? I'm sure Pentax doesn't expect all of us to run out and buy the MZ-S. If we were to do that, it would be certain evidence that it was underpriced. And if we expand that purchase rate to the entire universe of Pentax users and enthusiasts, production couldn't possibly keep up. So rejection by a certain number of potential buyers is obviously going to happen. It's a good thing. Pl Jensen wrote: Wieland wrote: This is not obvious to me. Ok, what is so much better with the MZ-S that is is almost trice the price of the Z-1p? (if your $1700 is correct). durability - ok. AF is better but one should expect this for a newer camera after 7 years at no cost. Maybe the same logic that make the F100 cost way more than the Z-1p? Remember also that Pentax has been litterally dumping the Z-1p the last years. When released the Z-1p costed the same as the Nikon F90. Late in life of the F90 it sold for $900 while the Z-1p was reduced to $500 (B+H). So a new Z-1p would costed significantly more than the current one. I have no problem with the price of the MZ-S and I doubt anyone else would have had if it was a Nikon. Imagine the MZ-S made by Nikon as the F100 Compact. Sold for the same price as the F100. Marketed at those who want F100 qualities but in a smaller body. Nikon would have said that compensate for the slower motor, they had added mirror prefire (made the Nikon users wild), data imprinting, an extra AF point, mid roll rewind with memory. I can see all the whining on Pentax discuss wanting this Nikon compact to be a Pentax- Luckily it is. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Shopping for a new body
Errm - Nikon have had this feature for *years*. The new, slick feature this year is that you can download the data directly to a Palm Pilot! -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - What a coincidence. They've been talking about this on the NDML, too. :-) Len --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Geography poll: cities or no cities?
I can't see any security risk of having our city known. It's fine by me to list this information. That was the first intention of this poll anyway. Herbet. --- Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that I've gone through all of the trouble of asking for and recording cities, I'm having second thoughts over whether or not to include them. *L* And I can't even blame it on Monday, since that was yesterday. :) So, I'm asking as a public topic of conversation (you don't have to reply privately to me for this one), should I include cities in the data, or not? I'm not talking about the general summary that I'll post to the PDML, as that will only be broken down by country and (sometimes) state/province and will not have any names attached to it. I'm talking about the more detailed info that I'll mail directly to everyone who submitted their location for the list. What I want to know is whether the info should look like this: Canada, Manitoba, Winnipeg; Chris Brogden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or like this: Canada, Manitoba; Chris Brogden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) In countries which don't have provinces or states, I think it would be more convenient to have cities listed, since it saves you the trouble of having to e-mail everyone in the vicinity and ask them what city they're in if you ever want to get together. At the same time, there is always a bit of a security risk associated with having your city known, so that has to be assessed as well. What does everyone think? Cities, or no cities? Remember, you'll never have to have anyone see any information that you're not comfortable with sharing. If we do decide to go with cities and you don't want people to see yours, just send me mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and let me know, and I'll remove your city (or anything else you want me to) from the list. Thanks! chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Info Not Yet
Several days ago, Aaron wrote: Don't rub it in! MZ-S and good skiing, where the heck is this place, PARADISE? :) N, it's not paradise. Although..., it is close. g I got a call yesterday from one of my reps who wanted to know if I was going to PMA. I told him no, and he teased me that I'd miss out on the first introduction of the new Pentax camera (he's not a Pentax rep but he knows my mania). I told him that it was too late, that a show in Slovenia showed it a couple of days ago. He laughed a bit, and then asked, "Really?" He thought I was making it up. I assured him I was not. So anyhow, tell us when next year's Ljubljana show is, Matjaz, because me and a couple of reps are going to show up to it. We'll get the jump on all those PMA types. ;) -Aaron Sure, I will let you know. :) Matjaz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Underwater housings for Pentax
Hello. I am considering buying something to take underwater photos. One of the options would be an underwater housing for Pentax cameras since that is what I use above the water. The better know manufacturers (like Ikelite) don't seem to have Pentax models. I have found one manufacturer (reseller ?), UK-Germany, which has housings for Z-series cameras: http://www.uk-germany.com/engl/ukafpe.htm MZ-series: http://www.uk-germany.com/engl/mini.htm flashes http://www.uk-germany.com/engl/sysbli.htm ans also ring flashes: http://www.uk-germany.com/engl/peribli.htm and even an housing for the LX: http://www.uk-germany.com/engl/penlxpro.htm Anybody has comments on this manufacturer or know about another manufacturer which supports Pentax ? Thanks in advance -- http://www.mat.uc.pt/~rps/photos/ an half-tifoso until Canada 2000 Mark Sandman - Morphine, RIP (1952-1999/07/03, Italy) .pt is Portugal| `Whom the gods love die young'-Menander (342-292 BC) Europe |Villeneuve 50-82, Toivonen 56-86, Senna 60-94 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
Preparing to be bitterly disappointed with Pentax, John = John Edwin Mason Charlottesville, Virginia Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alt Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't believe it! This is the PDML, after all! We are a group of Pentax users that are quite fond of our Pentax equipment. If you're *that* dissatisfied with Pentax, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out to your local Nikon or Canon, or whatever, dealer. Len --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Flash question
Is it safe to use an older flash such as a Vivitar 2800 on a MZ-10? Best regards - Martin __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Shopping for a new body
Ok, ok I didn't know! I doesn't *look* like it comes off tv "Paris, Leonard" wrote: As does mine. He probably never slipped the viewfinder cover off to find out. Len --- -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 3:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Shopping for a new body tv wrote: The Pz-1p doesn't have diopter correction. Funny, mine does. - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New MZ-S Features?
How do we know it doesn't have flash exposure comp? It might have it built into the new flash unit, like C and N do instead of the body as the PZ-1p has. DG At 12:29 PM 2/13/01 -0500, you wrote: dick graham wrote: There are 2 features that I still don't know if this camera has, flash compensation and mid roll rewind with leader left out. Looks like you'll have to do flash comp like on the 5n. OTOH, not only does it leave the leader out, when you reload it it knows how far to advance the film. Pretty cool. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Flash question
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, martin tammer wrote: Is it safe to use an older flash such as a Vivitar 2800 on a MZ-10? As far as safety goes, I've heard that the older ones can have very high trigger voltages and can damage your camera, while the newer ones are safe to use. It's one of the problems that comes with using a flash that's been in production for so long. If you're buying one new from a store, don't worry abou it. The worst that will happen is that the flash will still fire even if your shutter speed is faster than the sync speed of the camera (I believe this is a result of the single-pin contact). If you have an older 2800, check the voltage load across the contact. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG Stuff
Hi Gang, just a reminder that the PUG deadline is early this month. We will be closing the submissions down on the 18th this month. Five more days, so lets get scanning. Thanks Bill With regards to submissions, are they only for photos taken with Pentax gear? Thanks, Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Geography poll: cities or no cities?
I would like to see as much information as possible. Since this is a voluntary list, I don't think there's a privacy issue. And if anyone was concerned about protecting their identity and their whereabouts, he or she wouldn't have responded. Paul --Original Message-- From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 13, 2001 6:27:04 PM GMT Subject: Geography poll: cities or no cities? Now that I've gone through all of the trouble of asking for and recording cities, I'm having second thoughts over whether or not to include them. *L* And I can't even blame it on Monday, since that was yesterday. :) So, I'm asking as a public topic of conversation (you don't have to reply privately to me for this one), should I include cities in the data, or not? I'm not talking about the general summary that I'll post to the PDML, as that will only be broken down by country and (sometimes) state/province and will not have any names attached to it. I'm talking about the more detailed info that I'll mail directly to everyone who submitted their location for the list. What I want to know is whether the info should look like this: Canada, Manitoba, Winnipeg; Chris Brogden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or like this: Canada, Manitoba; Chris Brogden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) In countries which don't have provinces or states, I think it would be more convenient to have cities listed, since it saves you the trouble of having to e-mail everyone in the vicinity and ask them what city they're in if you ever want to get together. At the same time, there is always a bit of a security risk associated with having your city known, so that has to be assessed as well. What does everyone think? Cities, or no cities? Remember, you'll never have to have anyone see any information that you're not comfortable with sharing. If we do decide to go with cities and you don't want people to see yours, just send me mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and let me know, and I'll remove your city (or anything else you want me to) from the list. Thanks! chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Shopping for a new body
Even my old PZ1 has it. Herbet. --- "Paris, Leonard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As does mine. He probably never slipped the viewfinder cover off to find out. Len --- -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 3:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Shopping for a new body tv wrote: The Pz-1p doesn't have diopter correction. Funny, mine does. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Practisix IIa
Somebody has info and feedback on this 6x6 format camera? What about the Zeiss 80 2.8 for it? Some website? Thanks in advance. Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Shopping for a new body
"Paris, Leonard" wrote: you can download the data directly to a Palm Pilot! What a coincidence. They've been talking about this on the NDML, too. :-) I wouldn't know. But it is a feature I would really like - being able to automatically grab the data into a palm pilot is something I'd use. I'd probably want to do it into my wife's Palm-III, though - she has the accessory keyboard, which makes typing data (such as captions) a lot easier. Especially on our European trip later on this year, when it will be several weeks before we get back to our home computers. I just happened to spot 'Photo Secretary for the Palm Pilot' on a Palm accessory list, and wondered again when these Nikon features would be available to those of us who have not fallen. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Manual Gear; was Re: News from PMA...
In a message dated 2/13/01 12:49:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wouldn't recommend driving any kind of McLaren in Italy ... But a Chevy Camaro/Pontiac Firebird are always all right anyplace in Europe. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
Has the Elan real metal parts? Arent they just metal coloured plastic? What is this Elan called in Europe? All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperinen viesti- Lhettj: John Edwin Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Piv: 13. helmikuuta 2001 19:55 Aihe: Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!! I'm sitting here reading the MZ-S and Elan 7 specs, and it looks to me like a wash. For instance, MZ-S wins on shutter speed (6000 vs. 4000), Elan wins on film advance (4 fps vs. 2.5 fps). Honestly, the cameras look to me--partial metal frames and all--like they should inhabit the same part of the market. Isn't Pentax missing one of the hottest parts of the SLR market? I bet I'm one of many Pentax owners who longs for new generation technology in the F/N80 and Elan 7 range, but who won't even consider spending USD 900-1000 on a camera. (Yes, I know Nikon moves a lot of F100s, but they sell even more F/N80s.) Preparing to be bitterly disappointed with Pentax, John = John Edwin Mason Charlottesville, Virginia Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alt Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
I think this way. I like very much the Grand Cherokee from Chrysler (jeep). I would like to change mine for a new one, but, if Chrysler closes their doors I can't buy another We must be disappointed with pentax They are not building cameras that can compete with nikon and canon. We must be disappointed to impose a change because, if Pentax didn't change, in few years there will be no more pentax bodies to buy. Alex "Paris, Leonard" wrote: Preparing to be bitterly disappointed with Pentax, John = John Edwin Mason Charlottesville, Virginia Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alt Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't believe it! This is the PDML, after all! We are a group of Pentax users that are quite fond of our Pentax equipment. If you're *that* dissatisfied with Pentax, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out to your local Nikon or Canon, or whatever, dealer. Len --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- --- Alexandre A. P. Suaide, Ph.D. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Physics Department University of Sao Paulo - BrazilPhone: 1-313-577-5419 Wayne State University - MI -USAICQ number: 78139605 --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Report from PMA
In a message dated 2/13/01 11:43:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Never have they even adjusted exposure to compensate for back lighting of the subject, used more than the standard fixed or a simple zoom lens, and rarely, if ever, used a tripod. In fact, none of them even have a tripod. Or a Quantum battery. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Durability: was: Re: MZ-S better than Z-1p?
In a message dated 2/13/01 10:38:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Z-1p looks like shit, film chamber is totally worn and the shutterblades are almost without paint due to wear. In Cowboy country, they call that "riding them hard and putting them away wet." I take it then, you've probably wrung the best from the Z-1p and are immanently satisfied with its performance to date? *With such use-abuse, did you expect your Z-1p to last this long (5.5 years)? But from your description, the Z-1p sounds like a body that with average use, would last the average person 30 or more years, about the norm for sound PENTAX bodies. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S viewfinder magnification
Hello Mafud True, I agree. I myself tend to shoot an increasing ammount of 6x6. I never really liked square pictures. So, I use my Pentagon/Rolleiflex as if they were a 645, that I don't need to turn to get portrait/landscape format. I think I'd prefere 100% coverage. For some jobs it's nice to know what's in the picture, and what is not. The eyepoint discussion may be about glasses (Is it?). People who are wearing glasses, want to be able to see the whole frame too. Very understandable. I believe some of the fuzz is about us wanting our "idol" camera to be perfect! Even if we do not buy one, we want to be able to say: Look what Pentax can do, isn't that great! (By the way, I own a Pentax too!). I don't feel this way. If I did, I'd buy a Leica R8 or M6 (and probably leave it on a shelf in an insured cupboard, while shooting whith my Pentax Z1p or, hopefully, my brand new MZ-S). Best Regards Jens - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: News from PMA - MZ-S and other stuff
In a message dated 2/13/01 1:05:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * AA Battery pack/hand grip suitable for vertical shooting Which might break some folks of their habit of shooting 98% horizontal shots. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
I believe you! Tom C. -Original Message- Wanna get respect hey? You won't get that from a mere 35mm robocamera. Instead, put up a big BOGEN tripod for your PENTAX 67ll, then hang a big, brawny looking LEE compendium hood on that sucker. Stand back and watch people approach the setup on tip-toes, hands in pocket, leaning and twisting their heads to get a better look. Watch them look up the big LEE hood at all that SMC glass gleaming darkly back at them. Watch them tip-toe respectfully away to a safe distance. Want respect heh? Move the PENTAX 67ll w/LEE onto their patio, directing your assistant to break out a light modifier panel or two. *Be sure to have an expensive light meter hanging on your neck, a PENTAX 1 degree spotmeter hanging on your wrist. Wanna get even *more* respect? After you've set up the two venues above, pull out an LX, telling your clients: "I'd like to do some candids; you don't mind, do you?" Walk around them, the less menacing LX snicking here, snicking there, your big 50mm f/1.2 lens glaring back at them, imperiously. snip Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: News from PMA - MZ-S and other stuff
Roland wrote: We must consider now that the MZ-S body and shutter mechanism are far more expensive to manufacture than the body and shutter in the Z-1p, simply because that they are of higher quality. I was told today that the MZ-S was built to more exacting standards - low tolerances. (it wasn't said more exacting compared to what - apparently everything else). Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S and flash exposure compensation
Hello: I don't know if I have missed something, but I haven't seen yet any info that explains plainly if you can use the dial on the right of the camera to compensate the flash output as in the Z1-P, or you have to use the same method as in the MZ-5N or Z-1. If somebody knows the answer, please enlighten me. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Full Frame Neg Carrier
I bought full frame 35mm carriers that came that way from the factory. The nice thing about them is that, if you want the rough look, you can lightly run a file over them, get the look you want, but the sides will remain square. I have one for my Omega, and one for the Beseler, although I think the one for the Omega was made by an aftermarket company. The Beseler part # is 8055. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tom wrote: One that's been filed to look kind of rough. Did you buy carriers that were filed down, that are full frame for a particular format, or have masking blades? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Re: Manual Gear; was Re: News from PMA...
Flavio Minelli writes: Just a little folklore: Here in Italy there are probably about 0.5% automatic gear cars. If you drive one you either are disabled or a sissy. Or both. Everybody here wants to be a formula 1 pilot. From the looks of the 2000 Ferarri 360 my co-worker just purchased, the Italians are designing nice Formula 1 cockpits with 4 wheels. Though without a clutch pedal, and no shifter knob (just 2 paddles behind the steering wheel - "up shift" and "down shift"), I'm not sure if the transmission is manual or automatic, especially since you can tell the onboard computer to take over the shifting duties, and put it in fully automatic. It's quite high tech, despite the amaphroditic nature of the transmission. :) Cheers, Gerald - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Got a new LX
PAUL STENQUIST writes: The focus problem is caused by the same worn out mirror bumpers as the sticky mirror problem. Like most used LX cameras, it will require a sticky mirror fix. Are you in the Us? Pentax USA does it for around $170 along with an overall CLA. (And they seem to have gotten better at it in recent months.) I believe the Pentax repair facilities in other parts of the world provide a similar service. A few months back, at a "Pentax Day" at a local camera shop, I went in and chatted with the sales rep and a technician doing free adjustments and checks to Pentax cameras. I mentioned my recently acquired LX, and he sort of oooh'd in a good way, and mentioned that he is in line to get LX repair training soon, and is looking forward to it. It seems they still have high internal regard for the LX, and take the LX and its repair quite seriously at Pentax USA. Cheers, Gerald - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax MZ-S makes sense
Hi all A lot have been said. Sales figures will say even more.. I believe Pentax has seen the light! The 35mm SLR market is shrinking or even dieing. PJ's will want digital cameras. Others want PS, digital PS or Medium Format. Still its possible to market small, durable, nifty, capable SLRs for pros (other than the PJs) and for advanced amateurs/semi pros. Building a huge F5-like 35mm SLR, that can do anything, can only be done successfully if you already have A LOT of buyers that just need a new body - e.i. Nikon/Canon. If Pentax did that, it would be suicide. Pentax reaches the pro buyers through the 645n, the 67II and the new, small, durable, 6MP full frame SLR (if they manage to market new lenses). To me, the MZ-S makes perfect sense. If you guys need a state of the art 35mm SLR with lots of fast lenses to make a living, buy a Nikon or a Canon like the rest. So, stop whining for crying out loud - and buy a 67II, a MZ-S and the new digital twin. That's all you need. Jens - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: News from PMA - MZ-S and other stuff
Tom wrote: I'm asking Pal, who by all accounts appears to be PERSONALLY included in Pentax's inner circle, for the facts to back up the claims he makes.Was he formally included in a marketing survey/research regarding features of future Pentax products? Does he think HIS input was factored into the design of the MZ-S. Those are fairly big claims to make, and is pretty much what I'm getting from his statements. You seem to be taking things far too litteral. I'm not included in any inner circles not worked as consultant. As Roland has pointed out, I'm refering to the wishes and wants from Pentax customer base over the years. From this mailing list and similar in Japan. There are endless posts about what people wanted in a camera and what crystalized out was pretty much like the MZ-S; hence I feel we have been heard. Since I have personally participated quite actively in these discussions I feel I've been heard as well. Thats it. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: external power for AF500FTZ
I still think that building it yourself is the cheapest and best solutions (if you are at least lightly skilled with light soldering iron for tin soldering). Get a number of NiCd batteries (or NiMh, but NiCads are slightly better for flashes), strong charger (I use one made for RC models charging - it can output about 3 Ah !!! That's super-fast charging, with inteligent shut-off to protect batteries. Slightly slower chargers are much less expensive). My flash uses 6 AA batteries, I made my packs 7 cells (so the voltage of NiCd/Mh matches the voltage of 6 regular alkalines, rechargables have lower voltage). I used old cells from recycled notebooks (I got them for a smile), but 3.5Ah or 5Ah cells are not that expensive now. I have 3.5Ah battery pack, which lasts significantly longer than similar offers from Quantum, can be recharged VERY quickly if needed (1.5 -2 hours at most), and cost me not much, the price was roughly same as a Quantum pack (used) would, but the quantum one would have about 1/2 to 1/3 capacity ! For comparsion, 3.5Ah NiCads have about 3-5x more flashes in them than 6 AA alkalines, and the flash recycling is many times faster. You can check with a local RC modelling group or find one on net or find their discussion group on net to get help I think. Frantisek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Practisix IIa
Hi Albano Praktisix is an earlier (Nineteen Sixtees) type of Pentacon Six TL (Maunufactured until 1996, I think). I use Pentacon Six TL with two different viewfinders and Carl Zeiss Jena lenses (4.0/50mm, 2.8/80mm and 2.8/120mm) Excellent lenses. The camera has some peculiar "faults": You don't let the leaver slip back fast after advancing the film, you lead it slowly backwards. You never activate the self timer when shutter is not cocked. You never advance the film in several tempi (except when loading) - always use one continous movement. Some cameras suffer from the "overlapping frames disease". The Pentacon (Now makers of Exacta 66 with Schneider lenses) factory (Dresden, Germany) still services these cameras. I got a new viewfinder screen and a shutterspeed adjustment for apr. 100$. The Multi Coated (MC) lenses are of course best. I would go for the latets Pentacon Six TL if I were you. I have some links for you, hope they work. Please feel free to ask for more information. If you are in the market for one look at ebay. A guy named "Cupog" has a lot of P6 stuff up for sale. Jens Die Pentacon SIX - Familie.url http--www.smu.edu-~rmonagha-mf-FAQexakta.txt.url Pentacon 6 TL SLR Medium Format Camera- Page One of Six including Kiev 60 and Exakta 66 cameras.url PENTACON DRESDEN Kontaktaufnahme.url Praktisix-Pentacon Six the East German Medium Format System.url
RE: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
I think this way. I like very much the Grand Cherokee from Chrysler (jeep). I would like to change mine for a new one, but, if Chrysler closes their doors I can't buy another We must be disappointed with pentax They are not building cameras that can compete with nikon and canon. We must be disappointed to impose a change because, if Pentax didn't change, in few years there will be no more pentax bodies to buy. Alex Well, Pentax film cameras will die eventually, anyway. Digital will take over. It's just a matter of when, not whether. How Pentax competes in the market will not be effected one way or another by a few (or a few hundred) users shouting out their disappointment. If anything, shouting out your disappointment will probably put off more prospective Pentax users than anything else. The only vote you have that counts is where you spend your money. If the Grand Cherokee goes away, be sure that there will be a suitable substitute for as long as there is demand for it. Chrysler isn't going to produce cars that they can't sell. Not for long, anyway. Pentax, like any successful company, is placing their emphasis on the equipment that sells to the greatest number of people. Does that mean that Pentax won't produce a super flagship camera? No, it doesn't, because I am sure that in the company leadership there are a few folks that want this flagship as much as we do, and their vote counts. The final say, of course rests with the CEO and he's watching the bottom line. Len --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: One for the Romanians
It's usually more tortuous to leave the testicles intact and whack off the little red helmeted warrior... more frustration. Regards, Bob... --- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote! From: "Bob Walkden" [EMAIL PROTECTED] . The web designer should have his or her balls cut off for producing such a monster. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Geography poll: cities or no cities?
- Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 7:27 PM Subject: Geography poll: cities or no cities? Hey Chris, I vote for your info should look like this: Canada, Manitoba, Winnipeg; Chris Brogden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and not (not) like this: Canada, Manitoba; Chris Brogden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thank you for doing this usefull work. Kristian-Heinrich - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Mid Roll Change
Accurate frame positioning may be done perhaps with the sprocket hole count or something, but I can not immediately figure out how the camera can "remember" the frame number of the particular film which was changed mid roll. If it could, it may have something to do with the data imprint but it is not of magnetic memory type. So, I am not quite sure about this AUTOMATIC return to the frame when the film was changed mid roll. There is no point in speculating but I am just curious and perhaps someone with better brain could give me a hint or two for me to play with while waiting for the full spec :-) I was wondering the same thing... I can't see any way to identify a specific film, or to detect which frames have been imprinted. Unless the exposure of the imprint changes the electrostatic signature of the media significantly or something, but that seems unlikely. I guess it could 'remember' frame number for one film, so as to allow you to alternate between two. Or, given DX coding, it could remember frame numbers for several, as long as they all were different ASA on each one. Actually, the DX code not only identifies ASA but also number of exposures and exposure latitude. But it still would not identify transparency vs negative of the same ASA, or colour vs black and white. Maybe it punches a hole between frames that it can detect later, or something. Just guessing really. - Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: WTB: K-series normal lens
I'm also looking for the cap that screws on top of the wind lever if anyone has access to any source for old parts. Mark Mark, K2 really benefits from being cleaned. Especially the exposure-compensation and MLU lever got much more easiter to operate after I clened the whole camera (K2DMD). It's also an enjoyable process! Seeing all the great designing under the hull of K2 cameras... I lost that *damned* cap too... ;( At local Pentax repair, they sold me for 1$ a chrome one, from god knows what body. I painted it black, and it looks like original. Try to contact any Pentax service, they could have that part even original or similar. Frantisek (looking for the plastic piece in winding lever of Olympus 35 SPn :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
Wieland Willker suggests: Here in Norway the MZ-S will cost appoximately $1700. This is about the same price as a 645 N body. Folks, the chance! Switch over to 645! But probably Pentax intended just this? ;-) What?!?!?! And give up 36 exposures per roll? 1 hour mini-lab development? Add the incremental cost of a medium format scanner, and the 645 lenses - oh the price of the lenses! Never in my house. :) Cheers, Gerald - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: old exposure meters
At 03:08 PM 2/13/01 -0600, you wrote: Hi all, Anyone familiar with old, batteryless, exposure meters--specifically a GE Type DW-68 (made of metal and glass, takes readings with "cover closed", "cover open", and "hood off")? Were these any good/very accurate? If so, how would you operate it? Dan Scott (I'd RTFM if I had it) [EMAIL PROTECTED] your meter needle usually point to a number 1-10 you then set your film speed somewhere then you slide a pointer until it point to the number the needle pointed to then you will have a choice of combinations of aperature/shutters that will give you a 'proper exposure' - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Full Frame Neg Carrier
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Tom, We talked about this a few weeks ago, and I think it was Ed who said he did this. However, I mentioned that I liked full frame printing as well, and purchased a carrier on eBay. I now have several "factory" full frame carriers. Which are you looking for? One that's been filed to look kind of rough. Did you buy carriers that were filed down, that are full frame for a particular format, or have masking blades? tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Photography Clubs.
I belong to a photoclub our website is www.blkbox.com/nwhpc we meet 1st 3rd tuesdays 1st meeting is educational 2nd meeting is competition, rotating between prints/slides peer voting with ribbons awarded lots of fun, I like after meetigns where 4-10 of us go to eat dinner and discuss the same stuff we do here, but its a diverse branded crowd Ocassionally a group will go shoot together At 04:24 PM 2/13/01 EST, you wrote: Now that Chris has the widespread Pentax community awareness well under way, I I would like to hear from those of you who are active in photography clubs - what does your club do? - main interests of group? - competition or/and image education? You can e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regards, Ed Matthew Indianapolis IN - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Shopping for a new body
tom wrote: The Pz-1p doesn't have diopter correction. It does have diopter correction, Tom. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Mixed feelings about MZ-S
John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The beauty of Huper-Program is that you could switch freely between all three modes in a single step. I must confess I do not like much the HyP mode on the Z-1p, because I always try to modify the aperture by turning the front dial... (it is hard to hold the camera still while moving the thumb around). I am very fond of the Hyper Manual mode instead: you chose the aperture via the ring on the lens and switch to the program line (AV line) by pressing the IF button. I think I'll find the layout of the MZ-S more comfortable. Gianfranco Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
