Re: LUX conversion
On 4 Jun 2002 at 23:06, Butch Black wrote: Hi. Does anyone know if there is some reasonably simple formula to take a regular meter reading (i.e. F4 @ 1/60) and convert it into lux? The Frontier shouldn't be put in an area with more then 500 lux lighting, and where we are putting it is pretty bright. If someone has a meter with lux and f-stops and can give me a setting for 500 lux, that would work ok too. Hi Butch, I'm can't lay my hands on a formula at the moment however I can provide you with a Luminance Table that is printed on my Mamiya Spotmeter the values are for measurements taken at ISO100 (K=14?): EV cd/m2 1 0.28 2 0.56 3 1.1 4 2.2 5 4.5 6 9.0 7 18 8 36 9 72 10 140 11 290 12 570 13 1100 14 2300 15 4600 16 9200 17 18000 18 37000 19 73000 20 15 21 29 22 59 I'm not sure how accurate this table would be applied to another meter however its a starting point I guess, you'll have to find the conversion factor from cd/m2 to LUX of course. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LUX conversion
hi, f*f/t=E*18%*S/K/PI 'f' is Av, 't' is exposure time in second, E is lux, K is a constant, equals 15.4 in documents of Kodak. So, if E=500lux, S=ASA100, then f*f/t=500*0.18*100/15.4/3.14159=186, equals 1/6s,F5.6 or 1/90,F1.4 . ÔÚ 2002-06-04 23:06:00 ÄúдµÀ£º Hi. Does anyone know if there is some reasonably simple formula to take a regular meter reading (i.e. F4 @ 1/60) and convert it into lux? The Frontier shouldn't be put in an area with more then 500 lux lighting, and where we are putting it is pretty bright. If someone has a meter with lux and f-stops and can give me a setting for 500 lux, that would work ok too. BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself Hermann Hesse (Demian) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Ö Àñ£¡ Y.P.Wan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
new lense acquisition giddiness syndrome caught by Sid
Hi all, Just a touch of new lense acquisition giddiness-- got a SMC A 70-210 f 4 anna SMC A 50/2.8 macro anna SMC M 40/2.8 pancake all 3 for about $375 total. not a steal, but definitely better than KEH prices for mint minus I'm running out of acquisition material.. Many have to switch to 6x7 system to reinvigorate enabling behaviour... Many cheers from here. Sid - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: new lense acquisition giddiness syndrome caught by Sid
. Many have to switch to 6x7 system to reinvigorate enabling behaviour... Many cheers from here. Sid Good choice JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Selenium handheld meters: are worth it?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] commented: The best part is that you don't have to dig for special batteries. It uses regular 9V batteries. ERNReed asked: What does a selenium meter need a 9v battery for? Jeff explained: I compared it to other Gossen meters that do require the now discontinued mercury cells. One or more of us is confused. I used to have a ... I think it was a Gossen Scout? Tiny, very simple, handheld light meter. Window, needle, dial. There was _no_ battery of any kind. It was powered by the very light it was measuring. Izzat a selenium meter? Then again, I suppose that even if that was using a selenium photodetector, one *could* add an amplifier circuit to make it more sensitive in low light, and then there'd be a battery... (As often as not, given my prediliction for available gloom photography, the reading from that meter was basically, It's dark, dude. I guesstimated a lot. Or took a reading right next to a candle, figured a ballpark number for candle-to-subject distance, and applied the inverse square law. The meter was far from useless, but a more sensitive one would be nice at night.) -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Zone System for Color?
I'm headed out hiking in the countryside this weekend so I should be able to try this.,... thanks.. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:02 PM Subject: Re: Zone System for Color? Mike, I was thinking of starting with 1/2 stop steps instead of the BW normal whole stop steps. Also, if I recall correctly, with slides you emphasize the highlights as opposed to emphasizing the shadows in BW negative film. Whatever happens it should prove an interesting experiment. And good luck with your own trials! Alexander Grigolia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax zx-7 fill flash
Gary, The quick answer is disable the auto flash mode and shoot away. Flash will always fully expose the subject while camera exposes for the background. You may be satisfied with the results. The real answer is that true fill-in is not that easily achieved, at least not on the ZX series cameras. Reduced power settings on the 500FTZ won't work but in manual flash mode. In any other mode, flash discharge is controlled only by the camera's TTL flash sensor. In order to compensate the flash burst but still keep the TTL automation, you have to set the camera on (metered) manual mode, adjust the exposure for ambient light, then adjust the exposure compensation (-1 to -1.5 EV works best for fill-in in subdued light). BTW, don't go to the manual over this. It's only documented on pdml. ;o) Servus, Alin Gary wrote: GM I have a Pentax ZX-7 with a AF500ftz flash. I want to take GM pictures ouside and use fill flash. I would like to use the camera GM in portrait mode and set the flash to one of the reduced powers GM settings. I tried it and it didn't work, at least the flash didn't GM fire. Do I have to be in shutter priority to do this? Do I have to GM be in complete manual mode to do this. I was using 100 speed film. GM I assume that the flash didn't fire because the camera said that GM there was enough light without a flash. Any help would be greatly GM appreciated.--Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Big announcement coming up
Artur wrote: Yes, I heard about the SSM lenses. As they have recently announced it, the time is too short for the users to switch systems, don't you think? But they will, I assure you. Dynaxxes 7 and 5 are sold at VERY interesting/competitive prices and once customers are able to mount SSM lenses on them, they will go for it... But the Dynaxx 7 is regarded as a failure according to the Wall Street Journal. Minolta is loosing millions on it. I believe the SSM lenses are just consolidation to prevent loosing even more customers. This will be rather pointless as all the heavy weight camera users will go digital. Pentax should rather concentrate on connoisseur stuff in tune with the Limited lenses. Pål In other words, Pentax should retire. This is what your words mean - at least its 35mm SLR line. Well, what can I say? No, it doesn't mean retirement. It means not making cameras like Nikon did 8 years ago. How many F5's are sold these days? Nikon are worried. The big 8-10fps 35mm slr's are loosing out for digital. If Pentax wanted to make such a beast they should have done it by '96 or '97 at the latest. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Big announcement coming up
Artur wrote: No, by proper marketing strategy I mean the ability to convince customers that the own product is better than the others and that they should buy it. That seems like a hopeless task. You need something to convince them with. Not even those with large pool of Pentax lenses were convinced about the Z-1p. Now that fact alone probably killed Pentax wish to sink more money into marketing of the camera. In '92 Pentax had a limited selection of AF lenses and those who really wanted to switch to AF felt better served by other companies. In fact, the big flee from Pentax happened after the release of the Z-series and I believe this happened because the Pentax users who wanted to go AF couldn't see any reason not to switch. A firm may rely either on advanced technologies (like Canon, Nikon) or on fame of being classic (like Leica). Pentax used to be among the former but lost its place - it cannot, however, claim to be classic. Minolta is in a very similar situation but, unlike Pentax, it was able to begin succesful restoration with the introduction of Dynaxxes 9, 7 and 5. Mind that I also notice a beginning of the same restoration on the Pentax side and I hope it will prove succesful... I'm nor sure Minolta qualifies as successful. They suffer from many of the same problems Pentax do. They have fewer lenses in their line-up and Minolta loose more money. Ah, yes:) They probably thought the same way... Why should we do anything to convince the customers to buy our cameras if they don't want to? OUR market position wasn't APPRECIATED! We are offended Other producers, however, weren't offended and exploited the chance... Pentax don't do cameras for a charity purposes but to profit by them, remember?:) Why should they have updated the camera that didn't meet their sales goal? To finally meet it. And they should have let all the people know that they updated it and that they care for their customers... That's naive. Updating a camera means tweaking basically the same product. Nobody has ever updated an unpopular product and I don't want Pentax to be the first to try it out. They could have replace it though. I don't think they should make a camera similar to Nikon and Canon because the world don't need more Nikon and Canons. I do not either subscribe to the theory that if a camera is not like Nikon or Canon then it can't be professional. I DON'T mean they should make clones of EOS-1v or F5. You did in a previous post And no, the world doesn't need more Nikons and Canons. But Pentax proved that it has it's own style and features and I assure you that such a pro Pentax camera would be still unique. You seem to fear that it wouldn't be, though, which means that you don't believe in Pentax abilities. Think it over... Sure, but what have this to do with Nikon and Canon? See you previous posts. The MZ-S is just as much a pro level camera as the Nikon F100 and more so than the Canon EOS3. I'd rather compare the MZ-S to EOS5 and something between F100 and F80. But OK. Claiming the Z-1p is pro level camera and the MZ-S is not is with all respect silly. The Z-1p was neither designed or marketed as a pro grade camera. Pål Oh, but it was... Here in Poland as well as in other places, as it was written in another mail. You think you need to go farther into the bush than Poland to convince anyone. A professional camera sold at a third of the price of other professional cameras. Not even canons marketing department have tried that stunt. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Big announcement coming up
Taka wrote: How about upgrading the MZ-S to 4.5-5.0 fps drive? That would require another power source. This power source will need more space so that the camera body needs to be redesigned. Does this camera show all exposure info in the viewfinder- aperture, shutter speed, mode? Yes, except mode. How about selectable AF weighting, like the Nikon F80/N80? You can let the camera select AF point or you can do it yourself. Changeable viewfinder screens, so one can put in a split-image screen for MF use, or is the in focus indication good enough to not necessitate that? There are interchangeable screens for the MZ-S but no split image screen (than God). Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Big announcement coming up
Alan wrote: Consider the relatively limited resource that Pentax has when compared to Canon, I doubt this will ever happened in the near future. I don't think Pentax have limited resources. However, like Canon, they have to get profit back when investing their resources. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Big announcement coming up
Mark wrote: FA*17-35mm f2.8 or f3.5 (with 77mm filter thread like Canon/Nikon/Minolta, not 82mm like Sigma) But isn't the larger filter thread used in order to avoid vignetting when using filters? Particularly polarizers and filter holders. Seems like a good idea to me. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Big announcement coming up
Pl Audun Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the Dynaxx 7 is regarded as a failure according to the Wall Street Journal. Minolta is loosing millions on it. I believe the SSM lenses are just consolidation to prevent loosing even more customers. I don't know anything about foreign market, but in Poland the Dynaxx 7 is very well. One can buy it for about $675, while prices of the MZ-S don't go below $925. In addition, Polish Pentax dealers suck... I know a guy, who wanted to buy a new, advanced camera. He went to the first presentation of the MZ-S in Poland and after listening to the presenter, decided to buy the EOS33... No, it doesn't mean retirement. It means not making cameras like Nikon did 8 years ago. How many F5's are sold these days? Nikon are worried. The big 8-10fps 35mm slr's are loosing out for digital. If Pentax wanted to make such a beast they should have done it by '96 or '97 at the latest. Pl Perhaps I misunderstood your statement:connoisseur stuff. Actually, I must agree with your explanation - Pentax SHOULD HAVE done it before. That's what I meant by upgrading the Z-1p and supporting it with a large and proper marketing campaign... But perhaps a camera of modular construction, that would allow its users to switch between digital and film backs, viewfinders, boosters, data backs etc, would restore Pentax presence in the professional segment of the market. Gee - you all really dislike the word professional. I cannot understand it, but anyway... Greetz Artur - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Big announcement coming up
Artur wrote: IMHO professional level camera means the camera used mostly by professional photographers. No. For a camera manufacturer it means built to certain standard, typically more than 100 000 shutter cycles without need for service. Err, what I think is that Pentax lost time and money in the past and that's why has now what you call limited resource No. Pentax loose less money on their slr line than both Nikon and Minolta. They are one of the better run camera manufacturers. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Big announcement coming up
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent! We haven't had the what's a professional camera discussion in at least two weeks. I was beginning to think something was wrong... g -frank the amateur I don't want to start such a disscussion by any means. This is my private definition. I don't mean to convince anybody to accept it... Greetz Artur - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Big announcement coming up
Michael Nosal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 645N-D 645 to take digital backs, like the Mamiya 645AFD and Contax 645. How about the 645 N II, that has ANY interchangeable backs: film (medium format, 35mm and Polaroid) and digital?:) Greetz Artur - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Hello everyone!
Paul Franklin Stregevsky wrote Among manual focus telezooms, you could choose from several brands that offered serious amateur models in the f/3.5 to f/4 class. In autofocus, as you've discovered, it's a different story. You must choose between built-to-cost 70-200s with a highly variable maximum aperture or pro gear. I assume your wife must have autofocus, yes? - Yes. My wife is not confident with manual focus, yet. It's essential that the new lens be AF. A lens with a variable aperture is OK, as long as the long maximum aperture isn't minute (less than f/5.6 say). I want the lens to have good optical qualities. BOA pans the SMC FA 70-200. Aric - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Zone System for Color?
Alexander wrote: I've shot BW exclusively for so long I'm gun shy of trying color! :- I'm used to thinking in BW Zones and placing values where I want them to fall. Is there a color previsualization approach similar to the BW Zone System? Perhaps using 1/2 stop steps? Yes. Exposure works in exactly the same manner. The problem is to be familiar with different tonalities of different colors. Charles Campbell market his chromazone system that help you with this. It is explained in his excellent book found here: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/081743609X/qid=1023280991/sr=1-8/ref=sr_1_8/002-6891282-6688001 He also have his own home page: http://www.photonaturalist.com/ Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Big announcement coming up
Pål wrote: Mark wrote: FA*17-35mm f2.8 or f3.5 (with 77mm filter thread like Canon/Nikon/Minolta, not 82mm like Sigma) But isn't the larger filter thread used in order to avoid vignetting when using filters? Particularly polarizers and filter holders. Seems like a good idea to me. It's a good idea if it's *necessary*. Canon, Nikon and Minolta haven't found it so. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Big announcement coming up
I believe Shutterbug and Peterson's Photographic mention that the MZ-L is the replacement for the ZX-7, not the 5-n. DG At 05:27 PM 6/4/02 -0400, you wrote: Speaking of the MZ-S and Z-1P, how does the ZX-L (aka MZ-6) fit into the picture? This month's Shutterbug mentions that the ZX-L is the replacement for the ZX-5n?!? At $400 MSRP, it's not a bad deal, but then again, I have never seen the MZ-S or Z-1P in person. I have not seriously considered the ZX-L because it is so plasticky. Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: GS645 arrived. Boy did I get stung.
I can't complait by the delivery time. I got the camera in one week. What bothers me the most is having to pay 2 levels of taxes on used equipment. I'm putting up a fight. I'll be happy to get the PST portion (8%) back. Jeff - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:34 AM Subject: Re: GS645 arrived. Boy did I get stung. I know how you feel. My FA*400/5.6 is still on its way from B+H. I was charged US$70 for Fedex Priority shipping, the only option available. It took about three days to get from NY to Auckland which is very good. Since then it has spent the past week in Auckland awaiting customs clearance and the 12.5% GST payment. They have the credit card number but the transaction hasn't gone through yet... and I'm still waiting. I know its two weeks before I can get to see it anyway, but I'm still impatient, and I did pay a lot of money for shipping. Fedex seem to be doing their job well but I can't say the same for NZ customs. - Dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Shots of DC PDML get together in May.
I finally got around to doing a quick scan of some images taken during the get together in May at Roosevelt Island in the Potomac River. That was followed by dinner in Arlington. The page can be found at http://cesar_abdul.homestead.com/pdml_may.html Maybe I can get some shots of GFM NPW up in a timely manner - how do I go about getting a MF image into the computer... Enjoy your day, César Panama City, Florida - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Some pics from my trip
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Some pics from my trip Hi Team, I have assembled a page of pic from my week away late June. The images were all shot with my Oly E-10, I did shoot 67 chromes and Pentax 35mm but unfortunately I don't have a film scanner available to me at the moment. In any case if interested please see: http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/5-02.html Cheers, Rob Studdert Have to say I'm really impressed with the E-10. Great pics, Rob. Wendy - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Any recommendations on PS??
Would somebody know about Pentax or other brands? A mid-zoom range like 28-90 or 38-110 would be nice to have. Price is a constraint. Upper limit is $150. I have a Rollei Prego 90 which I love, but they don't make it anymore. Now they have the Prego 100, which is 28-100mm. Unfortunately the list price is $250, but your friend might be able to pick up an older one on ebay. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: new lense acquisition giddiness syndrome caught by Sid
From: Sid Barras [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, Just a touch of new lense acquisition giddiness-- got a SMC A 70-210 f 4 anna SMC A 50/2.8 macro anna SMC M 40/2.8 pancake all 3 for about $375 total. not a steal, but definitely better than KEH prices for mint minus I'm running out of acquisition material.. Many have to switch to 6x7 system to reinvigorate enabling behaviour... Many cheers from here. Sid Nice selection and a good price too for the lot of them. I know what you mean about aquisition material. I've got all I want in 35mm (at the moment!). Just had to buy a 55mm/3.5 for the 67 last week. Couldn't resist. It was a bargain. And I'd said to myself I wasn't going to buy any more stuff this year. Wendy - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Big announcement coming up
Artur wrote: No, by proper marketing strategy I mean the ability to convince customers that the own product is better than the others and that they should buy it. Pal wrote: That seems like a hopeless task. You need something to convince them with. Not even those with large pool of Pentax lenses were convinced about the Z-1p. Now that fact alone probably killed Pentax wish to sink more money into marketing of the camera. In '92 Pentax had a limited selection of AF lenses and those who really wanted to switch to AF felt better served by other companies. In fact, the big flee from Pentax happened after the release of the Z-series and I believe this happened because the Pentax users who wanted to go AF couldn't see any reason not to switch. Have to agree with Pal on this one. I wanted to go Autofocus in 1999, quite late on really. I toyed briefly with a second hand Z-70. (it kept winding the film out of the cassette at the end of the roll so I returned it to the shop) Ended up buying a brand new Minolta outfit. Saw no reason to remain with Pentax at the time, even though the ZX-50, 10 and 5 were available at that point. The MZ-S brought me back though. The limited lenses are keeping me there. Wendy - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Shots of DC PDML get together in May.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cesar Matamoros II I finally got around to doing a quick scan of some images taken during the get together in May at Roosevelt Island in the Potomac River. That was followed by dinner in Arlington. The page can be found at http://cesar_abdul.homestead.com/pdml_may.html I'm really developing as a self-portraitist. -- Thomas Van Veen Photography www.bigdayphoto.com 301-758-3085 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: is this person on our list?? mail problems.
Ann, A few days ago I got an Out of Office AutoReply from a corporate email address to a message I sent to PDML. Like you the addressee was not listed in my address book so I don't understand how I could even have accidentally cc'd him. My ISP suggested a virus as the probable cause, and explained that the forwarding addresses can be hidden in the infectious message so that your own address book isn't always the source. I do frequent on-line virus scans at PC Pitstop and a subsequent scan came up clean, but their reference files are only updated once a month so a new virus could slip in during the interval between updates. Also like you I am super cautious with attachments, I never open one from an unknown sender and frequently reject one from a known sender if the subject line, the size, or the attachments extension are suspicious. That leaves only two infection sources: HTML emails (I get some commercial newsletters and up to now had thought them trustworthy); or directly from Javascript on web pages. I personally know that the second is possible because I once got loaded with something that made it impossible to browse one of the Australian auction sites. Only uninstalling and reinstalling Internet Explorer cleaned out that bug. OTOH the list-server might possibly be doing the random forwarding. Was your bounced message also a PDML message? Shel, was your similar event with a PDML message? Has anyone else had something similar lately? Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got the below bounced in my mailbox as Undeliverable. I don't have any addressee in my sent mail to account for this. The bounced mail got truncated (fortunately) and I only opened' part 1 text message to get this. did not open the doc. Do I need to worry? I have been worm and virus free which I attribute partly to my never opening fowards and attachements and partly because I still use Netscape 4.6. annsan _ The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: document.MM The file is the original mail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Zone System for Color?
I read this one first, but, couldn't make any sense of zones until I read A.A's _The_Negative_. Now I want to go back to Campbell's book but it's in long term storage (stuff we left in the states)... Mike Y. - Original Message - From: Pål Audun Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes. Exposure works in exactly the same manner. The problem is to be familiar with different tonalities of different colors. Charles Campbell market his chromazone system that help you with this. It is explained in his excellent book found here: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/081743609X/qid=1023280991/sr=1-8/ref= sr_1_8/002-6891282-6688001 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: (web site): ZX-50 and IR film.
Na,I forgot to paste the link. Here it is. Dave http://www.coolmint.co.uk/infrared/guide/ Begin Original Message From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 08:21:00 -0400 (EDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (web site): ZX-50 and IR film. On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, David Brooks wrote: I don't know if you gents have seen this site, it was one of the first i found and bookmarked. Pretty basic but this info is good and some nice colour samples. It appears either the mailing list software or one of our clients stripped the address out, and left us with the phrase (website) in the title. :) Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
What you folks missed
Through the generosity of our Pentax rep, we had two HUGE trunks of Pentax gear to play with at Grandfather Mountain this past weekend. There was too much to list, but I think there was at least one, and in some cases two or more of every top of the line piece of Pentax equipment. It included 2 MZ-S bodies with BG-10 grips, 2 645nII bodies, one 67II body and every imaginable lens that you could possibly wish for. I got to use the new 33-55mm 645 lens, List Guy spent the weekend fondling the 67II. Cesar decided not to tempt himself, but did use the 67II for a bit. I would like to have tried the 600/4.0 ED/IF on the MZ-S, but would have to have sold the house if anything were to happen to it Bill KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax 2 new zoom lenses
These are the lenses. They seem extremely light weight: SMCP-FA ZOOM 28-105MM F/3.2-4.5 AL [IF] 9.0 oz SMCP-FA ZOOM 28-90MM F/3.5-5.6 6.9 oz Has anyone had a chance to try them and care to share the experience? I own the FA28-105/f3.2-4.5 for half a year now. However, I have only used it on three occasions. Primes just are better and faster, thus I usually use them. Boz, who borrowed the zoom from me, seems to like it as a travel lens on the MZ5N. This is what I can say about this zoom lens now: The lens is indeed small and leightweight, and it feels slightly better than the FA28-70/f4 (the only other auto focus normal zoom lens that I have experience with). Auto focus is very fast. Manual focus feels relatively good but is difficult due to the small angle of rotation of the focusing ring. The SMC coating is very effective, the lens seems to be quite resistant to flare. There is some distortion, but I do not remember at what focal lengths or in what direction. Contrasts seems to be good. Resolution may be OK for a zoom but is considerably less than that of a prime. At f8-11 resolution is satisfactory, however, to be able to use the lens at such values one needs sunlight, a flash, or a tripod. What disturbs me most is the light fall off (vignetting) in the corners, which one will notice especially if the lens is used wide open and with a blue sky. Again this may be normal for a consumer zoom. Bokeh seems to be pretty, at least I got some beautyful out focus highlights. I would recommend to use this lens for light travel in sunny regions or at parties. Arnold - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Any recommendations on PS??
I used to have a Prego 90; handy little camera with a sharp but slw zoom. Had the remote shutter release which I didn't use everyday but was really, really handy for group shots that I wanted to be a part of. Sold it on eBay for $160 to get a digital that doesn't have a fraction of the image quality. It had a bunch of modes that I never bothered with. It only had two flaws that really bothered me: (1) the viewfinder: It had a very narrow angle of view that drove me crazy! (2) For some reason, red-eye reduction was not the default mode for the flash. Rumor has it that the body was actually built by Samsung. t On 6/5/02 7:03 AM, Amita Guha wrote: I have a Rollei Prego 90 which I love, but they don't make it anymore. Now they have the Prego 100, which is 28-100mm. Unfortunately the list price is $250, but your friend might be able to pick up an older one on ebay. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: is this person on our list?? mail problems.
Anthony Farr wrote: A few days ago I got an Out of Office AutoReply from a corporate email address to a message I sent to PDML. Like you the addressee was not listed in my address book so I don't understand how I could even have accidentally cc'd him [Snip] Has anyone else had something similar lately? Hi Anthony, I got an MS Outlook out-of-office auto-reply a few days ago as well. This also happened a few months ago, IIRC. I believe the problem is that someone with MS Outlook activates his/her Out-of-Office Manager (presumably before going on extended leave from the office), and then anyone sending him/her an e-mail gets an automatic reply, creating havok for any lists to which he/she subscribes. If this individual happens to get one -- or several dozen -- e-mails from the PDML server, then his/her mailserver dutifully sends out one -- or perhaps several dozen -- automatic replies to the PDML server. And of course, any posting to the listserver gets forwarded to all of us PDMLers. This Out-of-Office Manager is only supposed to auto-reply once to any given e-mail sender -- that is, if I send this individual ten e-mails, only the first one will get an auto-reply. However, I believe that Outlook looks for the From address rather than the Reply-to address. Thus, all his/her PDML mail looks like it comes from dozens of different individual senders (even though the reply-to address is the same), so dozens of auto-replies are sent out (rather than just a single auto-reply to the PDML address). I think Doug's got the listserver set up now so that anyone sending such an autoreply gets auto-unsubscribed, but I'm not sure. I know that when this problem happened several months ago (due to some PDMLer activating his MS Office auto-reply feature), I was getting double the PDML mail for the better part of a day. Each authentic PDML message was accompanied by a note from this particular PDMLer stating that he was out of the office presently, but would respond following his return. Quite aggravating! ;-) Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
New camera speculation (yes, again)
Something that didn't get to the list - Well, the weather featured that particular variety of insidious misty rain we like to call a soft day, thank God here in Ireland, so the camera was idle today. And as there's some saying or other about idle hands and devils' work, I have decided to try to spawn another diabolical speculative camera thread (cue maniacal laughter, bats fly into night, lightning strikes, etc. etc.). Anyway... At the moment there's a large price gap in Pentax's lineup between the MZ-5n/MZ-3, and the MZ-S. I expect it to be filled with another camera, which I imaginatively call the MZ-2 or MZ-4, with MZ-4 being more likely. Most of the electronics and software from the MZ-S, which are by now tried and tested, could be re-used inside a cheaper body, so a speculative feature set would be like: - Shutter up to 1/6000, flash sync at 1/125, or 1/6000 with AF360-FGZ - Digital two-dial control (compensation/PF and shutter speed) like MZ-S. No picture modes. - 6-point AF (with selectable point) identical to MZ-S. - Similar viewfinder coverage and magnification to MZ-5n. - Spot, centre-weighted and pattern metering directly selectable on a dial, like MZ-S (and 5n/3) - Auto-bracketing (but maybe with half- or one stop selected on a PF, not on a direct dial) - P-TTL flash, but no wireless flash control, except in conjunction with AF360-FGZ flash (as opposed to MZ-S's use of the pop-up flash as a controller) - DOF preview and shutter release/power on separate switches for no particular reason except to preserve continuity with MZ-5n and maintain a difference between this camera and the MZ-S - IR shutter release (as in MZ-6) - unlimited multiple exposure facility - leader-out rewind via a PF, but no go to frame N when loading film. - cheap injection-moulded metallic-effect plastic shell around an aluminium frame - little sticker on the bottom saying Made in Vietnam ;-) (meaning no slur - just stating that the MZ-S is currently made in Japan by relatively expensive labour) To justify the continued higher price of the MZ-S, this new camera would NOT have : - Hand-finished magnesium-alloy body and slanted top-plate, carefully filed, sanded and hand-painted by highly-paid Japanese workers ;-) - Data imprinting on film. - MLU self-timer mode - go to frame on film change (which has allowed me to build up a collection of partially-used film rolls ;-) ) - studio flash socket on side - wireless flash control via popup flash. - handy focus now! button on rear ;-) - illuminated lens mount indicator, illuminated display - professional black finish (now I'm kidding! -- I really wanted a silver one myself) - BG-10 grip and vertical shutter release. I think Pentax could make this camera, make it in bigger numbers than the MZ-S, sell it for about US$300 less than the MZ-S, and still earn a nice return on each one, without cannibalising the MZ-S's market segment very much. comments? -- Kristian - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Slightly OT: Disneycolour is back???
A friend told me of a curious film he'd run into, a brand he'd never heard of before. He doesn't like Kodak consumer films because the colours are Brighter Than Real, and he said this one was even worse in that regard -- almost cartoony -- but he did see how it could be useful for a special effect. Of course, by this time I was mentally comparing it to Ultra and Velvia... The brand is Perutz, and it turns out they're owned by Agfa. As I recall, when Ultra was discontinued, there were rumours of a Coming Soon 100 ASA replacement for it that I've never seen. I'm wondering whether this is it. He picked up a few rolls for me to try, but I won't get my hands on them until two weeks from now. In the meantime, I'm curious: have any of y'all played with this film? Any impressions and/or info? -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S and IR film (was Re: ZX-50 and IR film.)
Hi, 30 euro is about US$28, but it's not quite this expensive: the film (Kodak HIE) is 14, and the processing another 12 Now I know it'll get exposed properly, I'll use the MZ-M and give it a go... ;-) Thanks for the info, -- Kristian On Wednesday, June 5, 2002, at 03:57 am, gfen wrote: On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Timothy Sherburne wrote: 30 euro? Yikes. The ZX-M will work fine with Kodak HIE, which, from what I What's a Euro compared to an American dollar? I pay $12.50 a roll here at my local camera shop. I did take the extra step of putting a piece of black electrical tape over the little window in the door of the ZX-M; I'm not sure if it was necessary or not, but I was paranoid about it. Have fun! I did the same thing with my ZX-50. And, in case anyone is interested: I tried scanning in my HIE negs today, and out of 36 shots. I was only able to pull worthwhile images from about 10, and of those 10, none were any good, anyways. -sigh- Next roll, I guess. Can't wait to try again... -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: So what's a Pro???
i was hoping we could hold it off until friday :) From: GLewis4457 Subject: So what's a Pro??? Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 15:16:07 -0700 Yada, yada, yadaall this wasted bandwidh on what is or is not a pro camera, Pentax or otherwise. I think alot of it is just sour grapes and envy of the success of Canon, Nikon, Minolta, and others. right on! The hardware does not make a proit is the creative mind of the user that makes a pro. Any camera can be a pro if properly used by a creative person. I have seen shows just using a Holga or similar plastic cameras i don't see how this is relevant. there is pro hardware. this is a fact of life. SGI Power Challenge Array is a pro computer. IBM PC XT is not. the fact that some software engineers play tetris on the latter doesn't make a bit of difference. and many of you complain about the use of plastic on a Pentax and yet could not get an image into any show using any camera. Look into yourself for a pro image, not to the hardware. ...and feel the Force, Luke! best, Mishka Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LUX conversion
AFAIK, no, unless you can compute exponents and logs in your mind. From: Butch Black Subject: LUX conversion Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 19:53:42 -0700 Hi. Does anyone know if there is some reasonably simple formula to take a regular meter reading (i.e. F4 1/60) and convert it into lux? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: IR film in the camera (was: ZX-50 and IR film)
I've only run a roll all at once then developed it immediately after. However, I was reading an IR FAQ last night which mentioned rolls being in cameras for a couple of weeks at 70-80F with no ill effects. t On 6/5/02 3:26 AM, Maciej Marchlewski wrote: I just have one question regarding IR. How long can Kodak HIE film be kept in the camera which I carry with me? I've kept it in the fridge before using it, loaded in total darkness, went to shot it on sunday but during the day heavy clouds showed up so I just used half a roll. As the weather got better now I plan to find some nice cementary scenery and finish the roll but that would be no sooner than tomorow. But I had to take my photo bag today asnd the MX wit HIE is in it, as well as I took on Monday hoping to find some time to shot than. What are the chances of quality loss due to carrying a camera with a partly exposed film around for about a week? It about 25 Celcius outside (about 75F). TIA Maciej - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S and IR film (was Re: ZX-50 and IR film.)
I guess that's about what I pay, too. US$11 for the roll and US$16 for develop and print. The thing that kills me about HIE is that the price is the same where ever I shop for it: CameraWorld (local), BH, Adorama... t On 6/5/02 9:50 AM, Kristian Walsh wrote: Hi, 30 euro is about US$28, but it's not quite this expensive: the film (Kodak HIE) is 14, and the processing another 12 Now I know it'll get exposed properly, I'll use the MZ-M and give it a go... ;-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: is this person on our list?? mail problems.
William, Thanks for the explanation. Sounds logical, and as most of my few posts occur in the wee hours, then it figures that local members subscribed from their offices would be the source of my phantom replies. It makes me wonder, 'though, why I'm not deluged with them when I post on weekends, or why I don't get a flood of American Out of Office AutoReplies when I post in our daytime (when you're out of your offices). It also explains why they never do get back to me later. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Peifer, William [OCDUS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anthony Farr wrote: A few days ago I got an Out of Office AutoReply from a corporate email address to a message I sent to PDML. Like you the addressee was not listed in my address book so I don't understand how I could even have accidentally cc'd him [Snip] Has anyone else had something similar lately? Hi Anthony, I got an MS Outlook out-of-office auto-reply a few days ago as well. This also happened a few months ago, IIRC. I believe the problem is that someone with MS Outlook activates his/her Out-of-Office Manager (presumably before going on extended leave from the office), and then anyone sending him/her an e-mail gets an automatic reply, creating havok for any lists to which he/she subscribes. If this individual happens to get one -- or several dozen -- e-mails from the PDML server, then his/her mailserver dutifully sends out one -- or perhaps several dozen -- automatic replies to the PDML server. And of course, any posting to the listserver gets forwarded to all of us PDMLers. This Out-of-Office Manager is only supposed to auto-reply once to any given e-mail sender -- that is, if I send this individual ten e-mails, only the first one will get an auto-reply. However, I believe that Outlook looks for the From address rather than the Reply-to address. Thus, all his/her PDML mail looks like it comes from dozens of different individual senders (even though the reply-to address is the same), so dozens of auto-replies are sent out (rather than just a single auto-reply to the PDML address). I think Doug's got the listserver set up now so that anyone sending such an autoreply gets auto-unsubscribed, but I'm not sure. I know that when this problem happened several months ago (due to some PDMLer activating his MS Office auto-reply feature), I was getting double the PDML mail for the better part of a day. Each authentic PDML message was accompanied by a note from this particular PDMLer stating that he was out of the office presently, but would respond following his return. Quite aggravating! ;-) Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: is this person on our list?? mail problems.
Bingo! Thanks to William Peifer I can lay my virus fears to rest. A quick search of PDML archives revealed that both of my Out of Office correspondents are PDML members. I wonder why this has only just started to happen to me? Regards, Anthony Farr - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: DSLR building
Rich, I think you, and a few others may have missed my point early on in my posting. I don't want a major headache working with hardware and software, instead, I was playing with the idea of simply tearing apart an exsisting digi-cam, and utilizing that in it's entirety. No programming involved. I have a webcam I got for free that's capable of running off of batteries and taking pictures without being hooked up to a computer. It's a pretty basic setup with only 3 buttons and 1 LCD screen to interact with . . . I figure a couple of days time to have something together that will totally suck as far as resolution is concerned, but should provide me with enough experience to move up to something more complex. Right now I have to find a SLR that is parts already . . . I don't want to ruin any of my 'good' cameras just yet. IL Bill Richard Seaman wrote: Bill, Hey gang, I think that covers most of the issues. Anyone see anythign else that might need to be addressed? Il Bill I don't notice any mention of software here? As a software engineer, I can assure you that all the fancy hardware in the world won't do much for you if you don't have software! And no, I won't write it for you(unless you're a millionaire, then I'll write anything you want!). I suspect that some of the alternative solutions being bandied around on the list would be more practical - modify a N or C to accept K-mount, or go to Japan where you can kidnap Mr Pentax and feed him only lutefisk until he agrees to produce a Pentax DSLR. Shouldn't take more than half an hour. IL Rich. home page: www.richard-seaman.com _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: is this person on our list?? mail problems.
Not just you Anthony,I have had 2 out of office replies from 1 known member and 1 unknown. Deleted and no ill effects,so far,. Dave Begin Original Message From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 03:15:58 +1000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: is this person on our list?? mail problems. Bingo! Thanks to William Peifer I can lay my virus fears to rest. A quick search of PDML archives revealed that both of my Out of Office correspondents are PDML members. I wonder why this has only just started to happen to me? Regards, Anthony Farr - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Shutter Cycles
Pål wrote: [pro cameras] For a camera manufacturer it means built to certain standard, typically more than 100 000 shutter cycles without need for service. Does anyone know the shutter cycles for the MZ-S? I think the LX is 100,000 cycles (???) What about the Z1p or the 67 645? Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Developing Neg. Film in London
Greetings, I'm new to the list, although I've been reading it via the web for a few months now. I'm going to the UK this August (vacation) and to avoid the random CT airport scans I'm thinking of bringing my film but having it developed in London. Assuming you accept my paranoia, I'd like a recommendation. I realize that there are probably an ungodly number of labs, photo shops, kiosks, etc. in London, but I really don't want to just pick one at random or spend a lot of time looking. I'm also trying to decide between quick developing and having them shipped to the US. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 463-8873 FAX: (540) 463-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What you folks missed
I was very impressed with the 67II myself but man that thing's huge! Very satisfying to fire, but I thought they might be planning a recoilless version some time in the future. ;-) The 33-55 zoom for the 645 is lovely but I think I get the 35mm prime first. Got that fisheye mountaintop rhododendron photo done yet? -- Original Message -- From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Through the generosity of our Pentax rep, we had two HUGE trunks of Pentax gear to play with at Grandfather Mountain this past weekend. There was too much to list, but I think there was at least one, and in some cases two or more of every top of the line piece of Pentax equipment. It included 2 MZ-S bodies with BG-10 grips, 2 645nII bodies, one 67II body and every imaginable lens that you could possibly wish for. I got to use the new 33-55mm 645 lens, List Guy spent the weekend fondling the 67II. Cesar decided not to tempt himself, but did use the 67II for a bit. I would like to have tried the 600/4.0 ED/IF on the MZ-S, but would have to have sold the house if anything were to happen to it -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: is this person on our list?? mail problems. !@#$%^
Hi again Anthony, I just got one of these autoreplies myself from Simon King, another Aussie on the list. The text was: Thank you for your email. I will be off campus on training until Friday 7 June, and will respond to your message as soon as possible. Simon King. This one was sent directly to me rather than as a post from the PDML listserver. I don't expect I'll get another one from him, since: (i) he's probably been auto-unsubscribed, and (ii) his mailserver will recognize me as someone who's already been sent an auto-reply from an earlier message. I've modified the subject line (by adding a string of text !@#$%^ -- so that I'll recognize any other autoreply to this present message, in case one does happen to come. Typically, most MS Office users don't activate the Out-of-Office manager when they're gone from their offices on nights and weekends. (I know I don't, although perhaps some do.) Mostly, they might activate it under the same sorts of circumstances that would cause a PDMLer to temporarily unsubscribe from the list -- that is, if they went on vacation for a week. Thus, it shouldn't be a surprise that you wouldn't be deluged with such autoreplies. Have a good one! Bill Peifer Rochester, NY I'll add the following, in case Simon happens to read this on his return *** Hi Simon -- You may need to resubscribe to the list once you return to your office. IIRC, I think an auto-reply sent to the PDML server may cause you to be unsubscribed. If you get a chance, send me a note off-list and let me know if the auto-reply caused any havok with your PDML subscription. I'm just curious Thanks! *** -Original Message- From: Anthony Farr [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: is this person on our list?? mail problems. William, Thanks for the explanation. Sounds logical, and as most of my few posts occur in the wee hours, then it figures that local members subscribed from their offices would be the source of my phantom replies. It makes me wonder, 'though, why I'm not deluged with them when I post on weekends, or why I don't get a flood of American Out of Office AutoReplies when I post in our daytime (when you're out of your offices). It also explains why they never do get back to me later. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Peifer, William [OCDUS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anthony Farr wrote: A few days ago I got an Out of Office AutoReply from a corporate email address to a message I sent to PDML. Like you the addressee was not listed in my address book so I don't understand how I could even have accidentally cc'd him [Snip] Has anyone else had something similar lately? Hi Anthony, I got an MS Outlook out-of-office auto-reply a few days ago as well. This also happened a few months ago, IIRC. I believe the problem is that someone with MS Outlook activates his/her Out-of-Office Manager (presumably before going on extended leave from the office), and then anyone sending him/her an e-mail gets an automatic reply, creating havok for any lists to which he/she subscribes. If this individual happens to get one -- or several dozen -- e-mails from the PDML server, then his/her mailserver dutifully sends out one -- or perhaps several dozen -- automatic replies to the PDML server. And of course, any posting to the listserver gets forwarded to all of us PDMLers. This Out-of-Office Manager is only supposed to auto-reply once to any given e-mail sender -- that is, if I send this individual ten e-mails, only the first one will get an auto-reply. However, I believe that Outlook looks for the From address rather than the Reply-to address. Thus, all his/her PDML mail looks like it comes from dozens of different individual senders (even though the reply-to address is the same), so dozens of auto-replies are sent out (rather than just a single auto-reply to the PDML address). I think Doug's got the listserver set up now so that anyone sending such an autoreply gets auto-unsubscribed, but I'm not sure. I know that when this problem happened several months ago (due to some PDMLer activating his MS Office auto-reply feature), I was getting double the PDML mail for the better part of a day. Each authentic PDML message was accompanied by a note from this particular PDMLer stating that he was out of the office presently, but would respond following his return. Quite aggravating! ;-) Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: RE: is this person on our list?? mail problems. !@#$%^
Hi Bill.I received one from, Simon too. Dave Begin Original Message From: Peifer, William [OCDUS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:54:13 -0400 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 'Simon King [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: is this person on our list?? mail problems. !@#$%^ Hi again Anthony, I just got one of these autoreplies myself from Simon King, another Aussie on the list. The text was: Thank you for your email. I will be off campus on training until Friday 7 June, and will respond to your message as soon as possible. Simon King. This one was sent directly to me rather than as a post from the PDML listserver. I don't expect I'll get another one from him, since: (i) he's probably been auto-unsubscribed, and (ii) his mailserver will recognize me as someone who's already been sent an auto-reply from an earlier message. I've modified the subject line (by adding a string of text !@#$%^ -- so that I'll recognize any other autoreply to this present message, in case one does happen to come. Typically, most MS Office users don't activate the Out-of-Office manager when they're gone from their offices on nights and weekends. (I know I don't, although perhaps some do.) Mostly, they might activate it under the same sorts of circumstances that would cause a PDMLer to temporarily unsubscribe from the list -- that is, if they went on vacation for a week. Thus, it shouldn't be a surprise that you wouldn't be deluged with such autoreplies. Have a good one! Bill Peifer Rochester, NY I'll add the following, in case Simon happens to read this on his return ** ** *** Hi Simon -- You may need to resubscribe to the list once you return to your office. IIRC, I think an auto-reply sent to the PDML server may cause you to be unsubscribed. If you get a chance, send me a note off-list and let me know if the auto-reply caused any havok with your PDML subscription. I'm just curious Thanks! ** ** *** -Original Message- From: Anthony Farr [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: is this person on our list?? mail problems. William, Thanks for the explanation. Sounds logical, and as most of my few posts occur in the wee hours, then it figures that local members subscribed from their offices would be the source of my phantom replies. It makes me wonder, 'though, why I'm not deluged with them when I post on weekends, or why I don't get a flood of American Out of Office AutoReplies when I post in our daytime (when you're out of your offices). It also explains why they never do get back to me later. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Peifer, William [OCDUS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anthony Farr wrote: A few days ago I got an Out of Office AutoReply from a corporate email address to a message I sent to PDML. Like you the addressee was not listed in my address book so I don't understand how I could even have accidentally cc'd him [Snip] Has anyone else had something similar lately? Hi Anthony, I got an MS Outlook out-of-office auto-reply a few days ago as well. This also happened a few months ago, IIRC. I believe the problem is that someone with MS Outlook activates his/her Out-of-Office Manager (presumably before going on extended leave from the office), and then anyone sending him/her an e-mail gets an automatic reply, creating havok for any lists to which he/she subscribes. If this individual happens to get one -- or several dozen -- e-mails from the PDML server, then his/her mailserver dutifully sends out one -- or perhaps several dozen -- automatic replies to the PDML server. And of course, any posting to the listserver gets forwarded to all of us PDMLers. This Out-of-Office Manager is only supposed to auto-reply once to any given e-mail sender -- that is, if I send this individual ten e-mails, only the first one will get an auto-reply. However, I believe that Outlook looks for the From address rather than the Reply-to address. Thus, all his/her PDML mail looks like it comes from dozens of different individual senders (even though the reply-to address is the same), so dozens of auto-replies are sent out (rather than just a single auto-reply to the PDML address). I think Doug's got the listserver set up now so that anyone sending such an autoreply gets auto-unsubscribed, but I'm not sure. I know that when this problem happened several months ago (due to some PDMLer activating his MS Office auto-reply feature), I was getting double the PDML mail for the better part of a day. Each authentic PDML message was accompanied by a note
Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #2771
In a message dated 6/5/2002 9:45:41 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A Pro is a photographer who has mastery of his equipment and knows how to use its strengths (and limitations) to achieve the effect desired by his client (or himself). Pros tend to use pro equipment because it gives them a broader range of capabilities needed to achieve the effect with less experimentation. So dont take your Holga to photograph an important wedding... Just my opinion... Bob I agree, a pro uses the right equipment for the image desired. A pro can also make the most out of their equipment, regardless... A less skilled photographer would likely not do as well, even with the most pro level equipment. Even a Holga could be appropriate as a part of a wedding suite of photos. Maybe the bride and groom want a primitive style photo, or one that is different from the conventional wedding portrait. I am not against high quality equipment, I just don't believe that just having it will make someone a pro. Jerry in Houston - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Bievres
Nothing very amazing to report. Spotted an example of the unusual 100mm F4 A macro (320Euro), had to be restrained upon spotting probably the world's largest Pentax (digital, too, I believe). Oh, and one for the collectors. K1000 La Poste. Only made for the French Post Office, this has the shutter speed dial blanked off. Otherwise enjoyed a break in Paris; on changing lenses, asks mrs to hold this please darling - spots mrs attempting to clean front element of 14mm on her dress - erk! Looked like coating damage but today when I get back to work Kauser soft feelings lenscloth does the job. Might start advertising in French photo magazines: Chasseur D'Images, Reponses Photo. Which is most widely read? Kind regards Pierre - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #2771
In a message dated 6/5/2002 9:45:41 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A Pro is a photographer who has mastery of his equipment and knows how to use its strengths (and limitations) to achieve the effect desired by his client (or himself). Pros tend to use pro equipment because it gives them a broader range of capabilities needed to achieve the effect with less experimentation. So dont take your Holga to photograph an important wedding... Just my opinion... Bob I agree, a pro uses the right equipment for the image desired. A pro can also make the most out of their equipment, regardless... A less skilled photographer would likely not do as well, even with the most pro level equipment. Even a Holga could be appropriate as a part of a wedding suite of photos. Maybe the bride and groom want a primitive style photo, or one that is different from the conventional wedding portrait. I am not against high quality equipment, I just don't believe that just having it will make someone a pro. Jerry in Houston - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re:Kiwi Dave Endures Cotty Household
So have you got any pix back from your modified K2 yet? Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
New Toys
Only a smidgeon - Hot Shoe Grip with (optional) AF400T clamp, bracket, 4P sync cord B 50cm. er, that's it. Not much else to see. Suppose I must go all weekend next year. Pierre - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What you folks missed
Bill Owens Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:08 PM Through the generosity of our Pentax rep, we had two HUGE trunks of Pentax gear to play with at Grandfather Mountain this past weekend. There was too much to list, but I think there was at least one, and in some cases two or more of every top of the line piece of Pentax equipment. It included 2 MZ-S bodies with BG-10 grips, 2 645nII bodies, one 67II body and every imaginable lens that you could possibly wish for. I got to use the new 33-55mm 645 lens, List Guy spent the weekend fondling the 67II. Cesar decided not to tempt himself, but did use the 67II for a bit. I would like to have tried the 600/4.0 ED/IF on the MZ-S, but would have to have sold the house if anything were to happen to it Bill KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Actually, it was the 645nII that I shot a roll of on the last day. I did not want to see the film go to waste :') I have to think about which lenses I tried on it. I believe one was the 120 f/4 macro and then Tom's 35mm. In the 35mm venue I did get to try the 250-600 FA* 5.6 zoom, FA* 300 f/2.8, 200 f/4 FA* macro, 43 f/1.9 Limited, 31 f/1.8 Limited, and Doug's FA 35 f/2. All in all a great time to check out stuff. I did not even have time to try Tom's FA* 85 f/1.4 or ask Mark to check out his FA* 24 f/2. I only had my screwmount gear out the first couple of days. I plan to put up a shot of that gear on display when I get some shots scanned from the weekend. Oh yeah, I did handle the 67II with the 400 f/4 ED (IF). Talk about a workout! More later, hopefully with scans, César Panama City, Florida - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: so whats a pro?
In a message dated 6/5/2002 9:45:41 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: Re: So what's a Pro??? Bob Blakely's example about his son's mechanics' tools made the point that professional tools are more durable. His second example, about his rifle, made the point that professional tools are usually made to more precise tolerances for accuracy. I think it also illustrates my point, that the pro chooses equipment based on need and knowledge. Again, I think the pro is in the user, not necessarily in the equipment. It is knowing the options and how to use them that makes on a pro...IMHO. Re: the gun analogy. I believe that a lesser gun would perform better in the hands of a skilled shooter than the match quality gun in the hands of a less skilled shooter. Jerry in Houston - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What you folks missed
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:50 PM Subject: RE: What you folks missed . Got that fisheye mountaintop rhododendron photo done yet? Funny that you should mention it. Just scanned it and the first print is printing now. I'll email you a copy and get a print in the mail tomorrow. Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photos of the Palouse
Ken, Thanks for your kind words. We were there a couple of weeks ago, Memorial Day weekend. The colors were mostly greens and dark brown soil. It's pretty neat, but at the end of July, the wheat fields turn golden during harvest time. That's when the Palouse is at its most dramatic. I'm hoping to go back then. Harald Ken wrote: Nice job harald. The Palouse has been on my list of places to visit and shoot. A well done report. What time of the year were the photos taken? Ken Waller - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: Shutter Cycles
In a Chasseur d´Images test (August/September 2000) even the Pentax MZ-30 managed to do 145.305 shutter cycles. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Cliff Nietvelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 05. kesäkuuta 2002 19:53 Aihe: Shutter Cycles Pål wrote: [pro cameras] For a camera manufacturer it means built to certain standard, typically more than 100 000 shutter cycles without need for service. Does anyone know the shutter cycles for the MZ-S? I think the LX is 100,000 cycles (???) What about the Z1p or the 67 645? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
GFM Report
Thursday a.m. I loaded up my trunk with 25 pounds of camera gear, 10 Ledo's pizzas, and a spare pair of pants and started the long drive to North Carolina. 8 hours and 300 pounds of roadkill later I finally arrived to find the rest of the PDML crew lounging at Chez Owens, with at least 10 camera bodies lying around. I managed to pick up at least 3 of them without breaking anything. Surprise surprise, there was beer, and I drank some of it. It got late, some of us headed back to the cabin, and since the next morning would be my only opportunity to do any sunrise shots, we set the alarm for 5:10. It might have even gone off, but we ended up rolling out around 9. Oh well, just in time for a BBQ sandwich. More people started arriving that day, and we were hoping to meet some new PDMLers, but none showed up. It ended up being the same folks as last year, except Cesar stepped in for Jeepgirl. Cesar, you are no Jeepgirl. (You drool much less.) Anyway, we were a bit disappointed that no one else showed up...we were hoping to see another 2 or 3 PDMLers, but our pain was assuaged by the approximately $50,000 worth of Pentax gear made available for our use by the Pentax guy. I personally used a FA 200/4 Macro, 250-600/5.6 (Christian, I tried to borrow this for you, but it stuck out of the bottom of my pants and gave me a rash), 645 33-55/4.5, 645 150/2.8, 645nII, 67II, 67 100/4 Macro, 67 55-100, 67 45 and 67 300. I think the FA 300/2.8 went untouched, but other folks had fun with the MZ-S's, 645nII, 645 45-85, 645 80-160, 645 300/4, FA 31, 43, 77, 24-90, 20-35, 300/4.5, 28-70/2.8 and other stuff I can't even remember. Sorry you couldn't come. Oh, there were also 2 bricks of Kodak Max, but I think Doug probably hoarded all of that. Thanks Pentax! The next 2 days were pretty much a blur of pizza, beer, Velvia and belly dancing. The speakers all did fantastic jobs...oh wait, I only saw Bill Fortney. Ok, Bill Fortney did a fantastic job and is my new hero. I heard our own Mark Roberts did a great Intro to Digital presentation, but logistical difficulties cough prevented me from attending. A few notes: - The 33-55 seems like a pretty nice lens. The 33 end is definitely wider than the A 35/3.5, but it doesn't focus as close at 35mm. - Jeepgirl was sorely missed. - Otters are pretty damned cute. - I like BBQ. - Mr. Beer is a bad man. - Phyllis Owens is a candidate for sainthood. - Pentax has some pretty good customer service guys. - Russian cameras smell funny and are ugly. - I *really* need to bring more clothes next time. - PDMLers are a pretty good bunch of folks, especially after they've bathed. Hope to see some more of you next year, or maybe in August at the GFM Camera Clinic. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which Pentax flash for MZ-M?
Thanks for the suggestions: in the end we decided that the AF201SA seemed overpriced for what it did, and we got a secondhand AF200S for £19 (about $30) at Walters Photo in Bath today. This has the same guide number as the AF201SA and seems to have all the same features, as far as I can tell. Cheers Andy - Andy Phillips - Original Message - From: Maciej Marchlewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:18 PM Subject: Re: Which Pentax flash for MZ-M? - Original Message - From: Andy Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] What would be a suitable flash for this camera? The Pentax web site suggests the AF201SA, but gives no details about this flash's capabilities. I think what Mike needs is a small flash with auto (ie aperture-set thyristor) and manual modes. As far as I can tell from the manual, the MZ-M does not do TTL or communicate with zoom flash. I use it with MZ-M and MX. AF201SA is a very simple flash. It has Guide Number of 20 (meters), covers picture area of 35mm lens. It has a manual mode and an auto mode (thyristor). When used with MZ-M it sets the aperture according to iso speed (f5,6 for ISO100) (lens has to be set to A otherwise yu have to set an aperture yourself). Also, when the flash has charged, actual shutter speed can't be shorter than 1/100th. If something shorter is set it would be overrulled. This is what I found from my experience: - it's dedicated - this flash is easy to use when using it as a flash in a compact camera - set to auto and let it do the work - I miss the bounce/swivel capabilities - I missed couple of times the possibility of setting a flash to gice just a part of light power needed - I would like to have a coverage of at least 28mm - I could use a bigger GN - I guess I need a new flash ;-) From what I know (but I haven't dig that yet) you can get with a better flash for the price od AF201SA, and it would be worth to look at some used ones with more features. Cheers Maciej - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Making prints...
Chris, there can be several reasons why you're not getting good blacks: Under exposure; Under development; Over exposure and under development; Wrong contrast filter; Negatives that don't allow good blacks ... All of these, individually or in combination, could be your problem. Shel Belinkoff Chris Murray wrote: But I have one question (that I can remember at least). My blacks don't seem to be as black as they could be, and I am not sure what I am doing wrong? I am using Ilford multigrade RC paper, and ilford paper developer. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Making prints...
You may need to pick up a filter set, ilford makes filters than can be cut with scissors. use a #2 filter for the contact sheet and see if it makes the blacks, black. Also maybe a few more seconds of exposure might help it if the lights don't come out too dark. Filters are a must with multi contrast paper. ( gee I've only been printing for 3-4 months look how much I learned from the list ) --- Chris Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got my enlarger in the mail yesterday, got home around 10pm, mixed up some chem and went to work. 3hrs later I have 8 ok prints. Wow printing is much more fun than developing negs g :) I wanted to goto sleep, but I just couldn't put the tongs down. I think I managed okay with a stop watch and a power bar as an on/off switch. I'm glad I printed off all of the posts on the subject when I did. This list is full of info. But I have one question (that I can remember at least). My blacks don't seem to be as black as they could be, and I am not sure what I am doing wrong? I am using Ilford multigrade RC paper, and ilford paper developer. thanks - Chris -- Chris Murray /\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN http://apeman.org/ XAGAINST HTML MAIL Cell: 604.861.8307 / \/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Movies, Music, Sports, Games! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Pentax 50/1.4 PKA, $95
There's a slight rough (high-friction) spot in the focusing ring, which is why I'm charging just $95--some $45 below the KEH price for a specimen rated EX+. Otherwise the lens is in fine shape (EX+ or better), optically and mechanically. The P setting works. I simply prefer my Rikenon P 50/2 at f/2.8 and f/4, where I tend to use a 50. Includes an original Asahi Pentax rear cap, but no front cap. PayPal, BidPay, bank check, money order, or (USA only) personal check. Insured shipping $6 within US, $12 to Canada. Insured shipping elsewhere $14. Paul Franklin Stregevsky 13 Selby Court Poolesville, Maryland 20837-2410 [EMAIL PROTECTED] H (301) 349-5243 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Pentax Refconverter A, $150
It's missing the rubber eyepiece and case; otherwise it's in great shape. You can fit it with a Pentax 6x7 eyepiece. (The 645 eyepiece fitting isn't wide enough.) Retains the left-right orientation while offering a 2X/1X switch. Clear view, excellent for macro work. $150. PayPal (cash/credit), BidPay, bank check, money order, or (USA only) personal check. Insured shipping $7 within US, $13 to Canada. Insured shipping elsewhere $16. Paul Franklin Stregevsky 13 Selby Court Poolesville, Maryland 20837-2410 [EMAIL PROTECTED] H (301) 349-5243 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: is this person on our list?? mail problems. !@#$%^
I've just got it. ukasz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peifer, William [OCDUS] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:54 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: 'Simon King [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]' Subject: RE: is this person on our list?? mail problems. !@#$%^ Hi again Anthony, I just got one of these autoreplies myself from Simon King, another Aussie on the list. The text was: Thank you for your email. I will be off campus on training until Friday 7 June, and will respond to your message as soon as possible. Simon King. This one was sent directly to me rather than as a post from the PDML listserver. I don't expect I'll get another one from him, since: (i) he's probably been auto-unsubscribed, and (ii) his mailserver will recognize me as someone who's already been sent an auto-reply from an earlier message. I've modified the subject line (by adding a string of text !@#$%^ -- so that I'll recognize any other autoreply to this present message, in case one does happen to come. Typically, most MS Office users don't activate the Out-of-Office manager when they're gone from their offices on nights and weekends. (I know I don't, although perhaps some do.) Mostly, they might activate it under the same sorts of circumstances that would cause a PDMLer to temporarily unsubscribe from the list -- that is, if they went on vacation for a week. Thus, it shouldn't be a surprise that you wouldn't be deluged with such autoreplies. Have a good one! Bill Peifer Rochester, NY I'll add the following, in case Simon happens to read this on his return *** Hi Simon -- You may need to resubscribe to the list once you return to your office. IIRC, I think an auto-reply sent to the PDML server may cause you to be unsubscribed. If you get a chance, send me a note off-list and let me know if the auto-reply caused any havok with your PDML subscription. I'm just curious Thanks! *** -Original Message- From: Anthony Farr [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: is this person on our list?? mail problems. William, Thanks for the explanation. Sounds logical, and as most of my few posts occur in the wee hours, then it figures that local members subscribed from their offices would be the source of my phantom replies. It makes me wonder, 'though, why I'm not deluged with them when I post on weekends, or why I don't get a flood of American Out of Office AutoReplies when I post in our daytime (when you're out of your offices). It also explains why they never do get back to me later. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Peifer, William [OCDUS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anthony Farr wrote: A few days ago I got an Out of Office AutoReply from a corporate email address to a message I sent to PDML. Like you the addressee was not listed in my address book so I don't understand how I could even have accidentally cc'd him [Snip] Has anyone else had something similar lately? Hi Anthony, I got an MS Outlook out-of-office auto-reply a few days ago as well. This also happened a few months ago, IIRC. I believe the problem is that someone with MS Outlook activates his/her Out-of-Office Manager (presumably before going on extended leave from the office), and then anyone sending him/her an e-mail gets an automatic reply, creating havok for any lists to which he/she subscribes. If this individual happens to get one -- or several dozen -- e-mails from the PDML server, then his/her mailserver dutifully sends out one -- or perhaps several dozen -- automatic replies to the PDML server. And of course, any posting to the listserver gets forwarded to all of us PDMLers. This Out-of-Office Manager is only supposed to auto-reply once to any given e-mail sender -- that is, if I send this individual ten e-mails, only the first one will get an auto-reply. However, I believe that Outlook looks for the From address rather than the Reply-to address. Thus, all his/her PDML mail looks like it comes from dozens of different individual senders (even though the reply-to address is the same), so dozens of auto-replies are sent out (rather than just a single auto-reply to the PDML address). I think Doug's got the listserver set up now so that anyone sending such an autoreply gets auto-unsubscribed, but I'm not sure. I know that when this problem happened several months ago (due to some PDMLer activating his MS Office auto-reply feature), I was getting double the PDML mail for the better part of a day. Each authentic PDML message was accompanied by a note from this particular PDMLer stating that he was out of the office presently,
Re: PUG Comments
The Hitchiker - Cotty The expression in the young girls face is priceless. The mom is not bad either. I like this in BW as it is all about the faces. Your a brave man to go swimming with your LX. I know it's sealed...but Hey Bruce, One happy viewer - I've succeeded. Many thanks to you. Best, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What football?
But 3-2 was a good result -- especially when four of those goals were scored by the USA team (sorry, couldn't resist) Actually they scored only 3 goals, but one of them went into their own net :) Lukasz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6x7 help?
Bill, I may have one hanging around here somewhere, but it might be quicker to just check with a local lab there to see if they have any spares. Brother Bruce Wednesday, June 05, 2002, 3:20:23 PM, you wrote: WK Hey gang, WKOk, I now have the 6x7 body, a grip (oh my gosh, the grip is just WK WONDERFUL), a 150/2.8, and I got myself a single roll of BW to test it WK out. Now I have a problem, apparently I don't have an empty takeup WK spool, so can't wind film. Anyone out there have a spare (I'm assuming WK if you process your own film that you'd have MANY .. .) WK Contact off list if you can help, WK IL Bill WK - WK This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, WK go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to WK visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
flash meter test
just to see how I may be able to light my basement and I was so surprised. withthe Af500 and achiever on slave, the 330 on camera then manually fired, the result at 400 iso was F22!! white walls reflect ALOT. I guess a 640ws flash is way too much power to start with, and I'm better off with a 320 ws unit, but still the price difference doesn't seem to be worth it. __ Movies, Music, Sports, Games! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6x7 help?
Just sacrifice a roll of film. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bievres
On 5 Jun 2002 at 14:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Otherwise enjoyed a break in Paris; on changing lenses, asks mrs to hold this please darling - spots mrs attempting to clean front element of 14mm on her dress - erk! Looked like coating damage but today when I get back to work Kauser soft feelings lenscloth does the job. Peter, Peter, Have faith in SMC, don't be such a softy, your lens coatings aren't, ask Bill W when he gets back from Hols, see the following extract from a Canadian Pentax advert: http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/hard_as_nails.jpg Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What football?
You're confused. The Americans scored three goals for and one of the goals against their team. They were so nice, they didn't want to opposition to look TOO bad ;) Cory Waters - Original Message - From: ukasz Kacperczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:10 PM Subject: RE: What football? But 3-2 was a good result -- especially when four of those goals were scored by the USA team (sorry, couldn't resist) Actually they scored only 3 goals, but one of them went into their own net :) Lukasz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Some pics from my trip
On 5 Jun 2002 at 14:58, Maris V. Lidaka Sr. wrote: It must have been an enjoyable trip - the pictures are good. I have never seen a purple mushroom. Hi Maris, The problem with any trip like that is that when I get back home (to the city in this case) I am always depressed for a bit thinking what a drag city life is. The trip was fantastic but as it was for only six days I was really only scouting for good spots to spend some quality time at, doing over 2000km in six days means that you never have the right light :-( The area where I found the fungi was amazing, I didn't really give a fair indication of the varieties there in my little set of images, it was just amazing. Truly I could spent a week just in this area shooting as there was such variation in colour and form. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG Comments
Bruce Dayton wrote: Another Side of Amy - Paul Stenquist I must say that Amy seems to be quite versatile - great sultry look! The lighting works well and the image is great. She seems like she would be great to work with. Thanks for the kind words, Bruce. And, yes, Amy is great to work with. We're going to do another shoot some time soon, with a pretty and feminine theme. I think there's an advantage in working with someone you know very well in that you can connect on a number of levels. It's part of what distinguishes portraiture from street shooting of strangers. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Making prints...
What filter are you using? You have to use multigrade filters with multigrade paper. You probably want to start with a number 2 for an average negative and work from there. Higher numbered filters will give you more contrast -- deeper blacks and brighter highlights -- lower numbered filters will reduce the contrast. If you're printing with no filter, you're results are going to be very flat. Paul Chris Murray wrote: I got my enlarger in the mail yesterday, got home around 10pm, mixed up some chem and went to work. 3hrs later I have 8 ok prints. Wow printing is much more fun than developing negs g :) I wanted to goto sleep, but I just couldn't put the tongs down. I think I managed okay with a stop watch and a power bar as an on/off switch. I'm glad I printed off all of the posts on the subject when I did. This list is full of info. But I have one question (that I can remember at least). My blacks don't seem to be as black as they could be, and I am not sure what I am doing wrong? I am using Ilford multigrade RC paper, and ilford paper developer. thanks - Chris -- Chris Murray /\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN http://apeman.org/ XAGAINST HTML MAIL Cell: 604.861.8307 / \/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: new lense acquisition giddiness syndrome caught by Sid
Brendan, Where did you get a 20/2.8 for that price?!? Do they have more? Taka -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: new lense acquisition giddiness syndrome caught by Sid yeah, Must be that time of year. I thought I was coming down with something. I recently ordered an SMC-A 20mm f2.8. My bday present. And for less than $280...with shipping. Yum... Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-7 (Was Re: Bummer!!)
Sorry it should have read: I finished a test film yesterday in my MZ-7, and had it processed (12 exposure), and I am impressed. I used the MZ-7 and SMC Pentax-F 28-80 f1:3.4-4.5 Zoom. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Best Screw Lenses?
Hello all-I just picked up a Spotmatic F know nothing about the screw lenses for this camera as I currently own a Super Program. I would very much appreciate your responses-what lenses are the best, rarest, etc.? How good are the Off-brand lenses. A quick look on Ebay has Jupiter 9 (Russian), German lenses, etc. Are any of these worth hunting for? BTW, mine came w/ a 55mm 1.8-is the 1.4 lens much better? TIA, Steve Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re:New camera speculation (yes, again)
Hmm, sound interesting. However, I would still wait and save for MZ-S. There's just something about it that makes me want to make it my primary 35mm body. I think that MZ-S is what Pentax is all about; high quality, portable, durable, simple. I think that Pentax will make a camera that will be the real flagship of the line and that it will be more like offerings from the other major brands, In the middle we will see a combination of ZX-L and ZX-5N/3N for a while. Not that I would not like to see the camera you've described. The only thing I would change is knock down the max shutter speed to 1/4000 and retain the timed MLU, all glass prism, and AF button on the back. Actually, that AF button made me think that Pentax might be working on lenses with full-time manual focusing like lenses from Mr. C? Oh, well. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: new lense acquisition giddiness syndrome caught by Sid
Taka, I saw it at the website for a retailer in Charlotte, NC. No, unfortunately this was the only really good lens they were advertising. The price was way too good to pass up. Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE:[2] PUG Comments - The Hitchiker
Hi Cotty Make that two happy viewers. I was going to complement you on the photo when I had the time to comment on all the others I liked, but I can't let you think only one of us like the image. It's not only a beautifully crafted photo, but it conveys such a feeling of childlike (not childish) joy. I can't look at it without smiling myself. Simon PS: My spell checker want's to change your name to Catty. I hope there's nothing in that :-) -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2002 7:04 AM To: Pentax List Subject: Re: PUG Comments The Hitchiker - Cotty The expression in the young girls face is priceless. The mom is not bad either. I like this in BW as it is all about the faces. Your a brave man to go swimming with your LX. I know it's sealed...but Hey Bruce, One happy viewer - I've succeeded. Many thanks to you. Best, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: has anyone had any expereinece with the tamron 24-135 lens
As Alan noted, it has gotten consistently good reviews. In January I took two MZ-S's to Mali, one with the FA 24-90 and the other with the Tamrom 24-135. The Tamron images are sharp and the lens is versatile. To my eye, the images taken with the FA 24-90 have better contrast and are a bit sharper. The Tamron is a bulky lens. For myself, I'd buy the FA 24-90, or the new FA 28-105 f3.2-4.5 (if it was available in the U.S.) or the older FA Power Zoom 28-105 (I own two of these). But then I usually carry a telephoto zoom as well. If you are carrying only one lens and need the reach, the Tamron 24-135 is a good choice. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Best Screw Lenses?
I used the 55/1.8 for a while its a excellent lense, the SMC50/1.4 is also excellent. I would assume that the 85mm is good, as the SMC version is the same optically as the K85/1.8? Regards, Paul - Original Message - From: Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:58 AM Subject: Best Screw Lenses? Hello all-I just picked up a Spotmatic F know nothing about the screw lenses for this camera as I currently own a Super Program. I would very much appreciate your responses-what lenses are the best, rarest, etc.? How good are the Off-brand lenses. A quick look on Ebay has Jupiter 9 (Russian), German lenses, etc. Are any of these worth hunting for? BTW, mine came w/ a 55mm 1.8-is the 1.4 lens much better? TIA, Steve Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG Comments
In a message dated 6/5/2002 4:57:30 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: shy girl - E.R.N. Reed This is a great portrait! The deep, dark eyes and the look she gives you really makes you stop and ponder. The muted colors and soft lighting combine to accentuate her eyes. The image seems a touch soft, but probably works better that way. Nice job! Thank you! (Having forgotten to write Comments appreciated I was beginning to fear I wouldn't get any...) As to the softness -- well, that lens is now deceased, so I'll blame it. ERNR My photographs hang on the virtual walls at http://members.aol.com/ernreed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Best Screw Lenses?
Steve, Pentax screwmount lenses are so good--and so affordable--that I wouldn't consider third-party lenses except where there are conspicuous gaps: Fujica 400/4 and 600/5.6 in M42, for example, a fast multicoated 20 like the Carl Zeiss Jena 20/2.8, a fast portrait lens like the Carl Zeiss Jena 80/1.8, or a fast 200 like the Vivitar Series 1 200/3. All of these have an autodiaphragm switch that will work with your F. Most Series 1 lenses were not multicoated until the K-mount versions, but the Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9 screwmount is an especially nice lens that is multicoated and yields beautiful color and sharpness. How good is it? I kept my 28/1.9K and just sold my Pentax SMC 28/2K, the Pentax twin of the Zeiss Distagon. Consider the Pentax SMC 105/2.8. You could look months finding one in K mount; it's yours for the taking at $125 or less in screwmount. Many believe that the Super Takumar 50/1.4 and SMC 50/1.4 set a benchmark for build quality and sharpness that has today's 50s still playing catch-up. Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: new lense acquisition giddiness syndrome caught by Sid
Thanks Brendan, oh well. Taka -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 8:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: new lense acquisition giddiness syndrome caught by Sid Taka, I saw it at the website for a retailer in Charlotte, NC. No, unfortunately this was the only really good lens they were advertising. The price was way too good to pass up. Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Best Screw Lenses?
- Original Message - From: Steve Pearson Subject: Best Screw Lenses? Hello all-I just picked up a Spotmatic F know nothing about the screw lenses for this camera as I currently own a Super Program. I would very much appreciate your responses-what lenses are the best, rarest, etc.? How good are the Off-brand lenses. A quick look on Ebay has Jupiter 9 (Russian), German lenses, etc. Are any of these worth hunting for? BTW, mine came w/ a 55mm 1.8-is the 1.4 lens much better? All the SCMTs are excellent lenses and are available. Of note, my favourites are: 28 f3.5 35 f3.5 55 f1.8 exceptional at f8 50 f1.4 better performance at wider apertures 85 f1.8 105 f2.8 135 f2.5 the f3.5 is good as well 200 f4 All these are readily available, with the exception of the fast 85 and 135, for little money. Performance wise, I doubt that you could put together a better set, based on overall quality, from any manufacturer except the Pentax K series which are optically identical. The older Super Takumars are excellent as well. The reason that you will find a lot of lenses for the screwmount Pentaxes is that they were the most popular camera in the world at their time of manufacture. Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What football?
I'm afraid you're the one who's confused - one of the goals for the Americans was an own goal (scored by a Portugese player). ukasz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of CBWaters Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What football? You're confused. The Americans scored three goals for and one of the goals against their team. They were so nice, they didn't want to opposition to look TOO bad ;) Cory Waters - Original Message - From: ukasz Kacperczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:10 PM Subject: RE: What football? But 3-2 was a good result -- especially when four of those goals were scored by the USA team (sorry, couldn't resist) Actually they scored only 3 goals, but one of them went into their own net :) Lukasz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Bievres
Wow! Now that's something. Never tried to butt out a cigarette on a lens, though (but then, maybe it's cause I don't smoke ;) Lukasz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rob Studdert Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bievres On 5 Jun 2002 at 14:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Otherwise enjoyed a break in Paris; on changing lenses, asks mrs to hold this please darling - spots mrs attempting to clean front element of 14mm on her dress - erk! Looked like coating damage but today when I get back to work Kauser soft feelings lenscloth does the job. Peter, Peter, Have faith in SMC, don't be such a softy, your lens coatings aren't, ask Bill W when he gets back from Hols, see the following extract from a Canadian Pentax advert: http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/hard_as_nails.jpg Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Best Screw Lenses?
For one you need to use SMC Takumars so you can meter wide open instead of stopped down if you use older Super Takumar lenses. I have an F but like to use the ES or ESII that meter wide open with the SMC Takumars. My favorite SMC lens I use on my ES cameras is the 35mm f2. I also like the 24mm. For a tele lens I like the 300mm f4. Before eBay, a lens that took me awhile to locate is the 15mm SMC Takumar. Occasionally it appears on eBay. Jim A. From: Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 16:58:24 -0700 (PDT) To: Pentax Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Best Screw Lenses? Hello all-I just picked up a Spotmatic F know nothing about the screw lenses for this camera as I currently own a Super Program. I would very much appreciate your responses-what lenses are the best, rarest, etc.? How good are the Off-brand lenses. A quick look on Ebay has Jupiter 9 (Russian), German lenses, etc. Are any of these worth hunting for? BTW, mine came w/ a 55mm 1.8-is the 1.4 lens much better? TIA, Steve Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: What football?
Unbelievable... yes... they won. IMHO that won't go on much longer, though it was a great surprise; I really thought it was an easy game for Portugal, just as Senegal was an easy game for France... but football is football, and it is prone to surprises. Not haveng Colombia playing this time makes me a bit more impartial... I think the cup will go to Europe this year, but I'd love to see it going to Africa (blatantly impossible, I know). Congrats US! anyway. Fernando - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Best Screw Lenses?
Jim: Sorry for the stupid qustions, but could you explain a little more about the metering with the SMC Takumars Vs. the older Super Takumar lenses? Is there a good web site with reference material for the Spotmatic F, and related lens combinations? Thanks again all-great help as usual! --- Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For one you need to use SMC Takumars so you can meter wide open instead of stopped down if you use older Super Takumar lenses. I have an F but like to use the ES or ESII that meter wide open with the SMC Takumars. My favorite SMC lens I use on my ES cameras is the 35mm f2. I also like the 24mm. For a tele lens I like the 300mm f4. Before eBay, a lens that took me awhile to locate is the 15mm SMC Takumar. Occasionally it appears on eBay. Jim A. From: Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 16:58:24 -0700 (PDT) To: Pentax Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Best Screw Lenses? Hello all-I just picked up a Spotmatic F know nothing about the screw lenses for this camera as I currently own a Super Program. I would very much appreciate your responses-what lenses are the best, rarest, etc.? How good are the Off-brand lenses. A quick look on Ebay has Jupiter 9 (Russian), German lenses, etc. Are any of these worth hunting for? BTW, mine came w/ a 55mm 1.8-is the 1.4 lens much better? TIA, Steve Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Best Screw Lenses?
Generally, the best lenses are the Super Multi-Coated Takumars. From among these, there are many superb lenses. A few of my favorites include the 85/1.8, the 135/2.5 with six elements, the 105/2.8, the 50/1.4, the 35/2.0, the 300/4, and the 28/3.5. But almost all of the lenses in this series are very good. Generally, the third party lenses are not quite as good. Some exceptions to this rule can be found among the Vivitar Series 1 lenses. But I'd focus my attention on hunting some of these down. One of those I mentioned was seen on ebay this afternoon with a good buy it now price. Paul Steve Pearson wrote: Hello all-I just picked up a Spotmatic F know nothing about the screw lenses for this camera as I currently own a Super Program. I would very much appreciate your responses-what lenses are the best, rarest, etc.? How good are the Off-brand lenses. A quick look on Ebay has Jupiter 9 (Russian), German lenses, etc. Are any of these worth hunting for? BTW, mine came w/ a 55mm 1.8-is the 1.4 lens much better? TIA, Steve Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Best Screw Lenses?
With the SMC Takumar lenses, a Spotmatic F can meter at open aperture. That means you can focus and get your meter reading without having to stop down the lens manually. You just meter, focus, and shoot. With earlier Super Takumar lenses, you have to push a switch that stops the lens down in order to meter correctly. The difference in ease of use is considerable. I now have only SMC Takumar lenses in my Spotmatic F kit. BTW, the Spotmatic F is one of my favorite cameras. It's a beautiful machine. Paul Steve Pearson wrote: Jim: Sorry for the stupid qustions, but could you explain a little more about the metering with the SMC Takumars Vs. the older Super Takumar lenses? Is there a good web site with reference material for the Spotmatic F, and related lens combinations? Thanks again all-great help as usual! --- Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For one you need to use SMC Takumars so you can meter wide open instead of stopped down if you use older Super Takumar lenses. I have an F but like to use the ES or ESII that meter wide open with the SMC Takumars. My favorite SMC lens I use on my ES cameras is the 35mm f2. I also like the 24mm. For a tele lens I like the 300mm f4. Before eBay, a lens that took me awhile to locate is the 15mm SMC Takumar. Occasionally it appears on eBay. Jim A. From: Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 16:58:24 -0700 (PDT) To: Pentax Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Best Screw Lenses? Hello all-I just picked up a Spotmatic F know nothing about the screw lenses for this camera as I currently own a Super Program. I would very much appreciate your responses-what lenses are the best, rarest, etc.? How good are the Off-brand lenses. A quick look on Ebay has Jupiter 9 (Russian), German lenses, etc. Are any of these worth hunting for? BTW, mine came w/ a 55mm 1.8-is the 1.4 lens much better? TIA, Steve Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Best Screw Lenses?
Check out this site. It has a very good lens page and a pretty good article on the history of TTL metering and the SP model. http://spotmatic.web-page.net/ Fernando Steve Pearson wrote: Jim: Sorry for the stupid qustions, but could you explain a little more about the metering with the SMC Takumars Vs. the older Super Takumar lenses? Is there a good web site with reference material for the Spotmatic F, and related lens combinations? Thanks again all-great help as usual! --- Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For one you need to use SMC Takumars so you can meter wide open instead of stopped down if you use older Super Takumar lenses. I have an F but like to use the ES or ESII that meter wide open with the SMC Takumars. My favorite SMC lens I use on my ES cameras is the 35mm f2. I also like the 24mm. For a tele lens I like the 300mm f4. Before eBay, a lens that took me awhile to locate is the 15mm SMC Takumar. Occasionally it appears on eBay. Jim A. From: Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 16:58:24 -0700 (PDT) To: Pentax Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Best Screw Lenses? Hello all-I just picked up a Spotmatic F know nothing about the screw lenses for this camera as I currently own a Super Program. I would very much appreciate your responses-what lenses are the best, rarest, etc.? How good are the Off-brand lenses. A quick look on Ebay has Jupiter 9 (Russian), German lenses, etc. Are any of these worth hunting for? BTW, mine came w/ a 55mm 1.8-is the 1.4 lens much better? TIA, Steve Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Best Screw Lenses?
Paul: Thanks for the info. I'm not sure I understand which lens was available on Ebay with a good BIN price? Thanks for the heads-up! --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Generally, the best lenses are the Super Multi-Coated Takumars. From among these, there are many superb lenses. A few of my favorites include the 85/1.8, the 135/2.5 with six elements, the 105/2.8, the 50/1.4, the 35/2.0, the 300/4, and the 28/3.5. But almost all of the lenses in this series are very good. Generally, the third party lenses are not quite as good. Some exceptions to this rule can be found among the Vivitar Series 1 lenses. But I'd focus my attention on hunting some of these down. One of those I mentioned was seen on ebay this afternoon with a good buy it now price. Paul Steve Pearson wrote: Hello all-I just picked up a Spotmatic F know nothing about the screw lenses for this camera as I currently own a Super Program. I would very much appreciate your responses-what lenses are the best, rarest, etc.? How good are the Off-brand lenses. A quick look on Ebay has Jupiter 9 (Russian), German lenses, etc. Are any of these worth hunting for? BTW, mine came w/ a 55mm 1.8-is the 1.4 lens much better? TIA, Steve Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Best Screw Lenses?
We're not supposed to report ebay listings here (it drives the price up). But since you've asked, I guess I have to tell you that it's an 85/1.8. Might be gone by now. Paul Steve Pearson wrote: Paul: Thanks for the info. I'm not sure I understand which lens was available on Ebay with a good BIN price? Thanks for the heads-up! --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Generally, the best lenses are the Super Multi-Coated Takumars. From among these, there are many superb lenses. A few of my favorites include the 85/1.8, the 135/2.5 with six elements, the 105/2.8, the 50/1.4, the 35/2.0, the 300/4, and the 28/3.5. But almost all of the lenses in this series are very good. Generally, the third party lenses are not quite as good. Some exceptions to this rule can be found among the Vivitar Series 1 lenses. But I'd focus my attention on hunting some of these down. One of those I mentioned was seen on ebay this afternoon with a good buy it now price. Paul Steve Pearson wrote: Hello all-I just picked up a Spotmatic F know nothing about the screw lenses for this camera as I currently own a Super Program. I would very much appreciate your responses-what lenses are the best, rarest, etc.? How good are the Off-brand lenses. A quick look on Ebay has Jupiter 9 (Russian), German lenses, etc. Are any of these worth hunting for? BTW, mine came w/ a 55mm 1.8-is the 1.4 lens much better? TIA, Steve Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Loose focusing collar on SMC Pentax-A 1:2.8 135mm lens - Ideas?
I have a SMC Pentax-A 1:2.8 135mm lens. The focusing collar is loose and just turns around and stops, goes back the other way too - the focusing action does not work unless I really squeeze the collar when I rotate it. I removed the rubber grip to see if there were some set screws that needed attention but there is only one that will not yield. The lens was fine up until a week ago. Any suggestions for fixing it? ppro Paul M. Provencher (703) 575-6147 http://saic.com (301) 948-2858 http://whitemetal.com http://volvoclubdc.com http://masjaguar.com http://masjaguar.com/jowr/jaguarring.htm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
