Re: Different by Pentax
On 21/12/10, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: What I'd like to do is email a link to various folks. Don't think I care enough to provide my email address to facebook. I wondered if there might be another way. What's wrong with copying the URL of the resulting video and pasting that in the body of an email? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Adorama
You may remember my asking for feedback on a Manfrotto Compact Ball Head 496 with RC2 Rapid Connect Plate a while back. At the time I inquired the head was being offered at Adorama with a $50 rebate. The offer was clear. It is still in effect. http://www.adorama.com/BG496RC2.html?utm_source=dealtimeutm_medium=Sho pping%20Siteutm_campaign=Otherutm_term=Other [...] Still, I'm interested in your thoughts. Who is right, Adorama or me? If me, what recourse do I have? I don't think you have a leg to stand on, but I think they're being stupid in not making it clear up front that you have to buy the tripod to get the rebate. As it stands theyre probably annoying a few potential buyers, which can never be good business. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT which open source/free CMS for complete beginner
On Dec 22, 2010, at 5:02 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I can certainly comment on Magento Community Edition. I was seduced by its beauty and bought a commercial template for it. The site is indeed running and working, but it is an absolute nightmare to maintain. I can't upgrade to the latest version because there were substantial changes made in the way the templates work. v1.3 templates need major changes to work with v1.4. If you are looking for something NOT time-intensive then stay away from Magento. I tried to install Magento once. It's a heavy beast and we couldn't get it working on our server. I know someone who does installs of it on Amazon EC2 servers. I recommended PrestaShop because it is the closest to Magento as far as good looks is concerned and reputedly easier to use. I'll let you know after I set up a specialty bookstore for my wife with it. : ) I've heard of Prestashop and I've been wanting to try it out because it looks pretty good. We're gravitating more to Wordpress at work so we've been trying out Shopp Plugin which seems to be quite good for small sites. The code seems pretty tidy, too. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
On 21/12/10, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: You may remember my asking for feedback on a Manfrotto Compact Ball Head 496 with RC2 Rapid Connect Plate a while back. At the time I inquired the head was being offered at Adorama with a $50 rebate. The offer was clear. It is still in effect. http://www.adorama.com/BG496RC2.html? utm_source=dealtimeutm_medium=Shopping %20Siteutm_campaign=Otherutm_term=Other Eric, I find lots of US sales pages confusing in the way they are laid out, they seem designed to bamboozle the purchaser with over-information. Step 1, I see the item for sale with an offer of 50 bucks back, no mention of a tripod. Step 2 I click on the 'View/Download Rebate' link, I see another small window open confirming a 50 dollar rebate with purchase of the ballhead only, no mention of a tripod at all. Step 3 I click on the 'Download Rebate' link and see a whole different ballgame with tripod purchase required. Personally there's no way I would have purchased the ballhead without looking through all the links first. That said, the way the rebate is presented, only at step 3, is confusing in the least, and downright bad business practice and deceit at most. In the UK, we have a national Trading Standards office, and if this was a British company I would be on the phone to them - but only after giving Adorama the chance to honour their offer first. I would also download the relevant web pages and links to hard drive because they may well see how confusing it is and change things on a whim. On the other hand, is it worth the aggravation for $50? For me, I would simply not shop with any company displaying such bad business practices. YMMV. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A Fine Lunar Eclipse, and a Good Time had by All
On Dec 22, 2010, at 7:32 AM, Bob W wrote: Never mind. They probably looked like this: http://www.web-options.com/Pick2008/content/_6207822_large.html Nice comb-over. FWIW I missed the eclipse. It happened around sunset but we weren't able to see the moon from our place. I didn't care as I was far more interested in watching the stunning sunset. Plus I saw the lunar eclipse in 2007. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
On 12/22/2010 10:41 AM, Cotty wrote: On the other hand, is it worth the aggravation for $50? For me, I would simply not shop with any company displaying such bad business practices. Especially given that in this specific business, the competition is not lacking and you can always find a dealer that will deal properly. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -Bowens Wharf; Newport, RI
On Dec 22, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Nice, Peter! Looks like a schooner parked in the front yard. ;) You just made me wonder where the beer is. But I have just come back from a trip to Aussie... Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
What you are seeing is vestigial New York Photo/Video mail-order attitudes. Thirty five years ago, you had to be very careful ordering from NY Photo stores, even BH. Since then, following BH's lead in a change in practices, most have straightened out about 95%. I have frightening memories of conversations with the phone sales reps from Beach, Adorama, and Abes of Maine, who, if you had a disagreement with the difference between what they were offering and what was standard in the industry, would reiterate their company line, then hang up on you. It sometimes took a few days and several salesperson hours before you would go through with the sale, after they allowed as to how you really had seen through their bullshit and let common sense complete the sale. One of their ploys was to pull items out of a factory packed kit camera. When you complained that it was missing, they told you it wasn't part of what they sold you,. The price to buy it separately ended up costing you more than the same complete kit at any of the other stores. Phone shopping was a joy in the 60s and 70s! On Dec 21, 2010, at 21:51 , Eric Weir wrote: On Dec 21, 2010, at 11:18 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: FWIW, IMO, etc., if they made the rebate form available to you before you completed the transaction, it's on you. Otherwise, it's on them. Thanks, Doug. You didn't have to make the purchase to get a copy of the rebate form. If you just click on the view/download rebate link, however, i.e., don't yet download the form, the offer as originally described is repeated, i.e., the tripod is not mentioned. All that aside, it doesn't strike me as good business practice. But not being a businessman, what the hell do I know? Might be damn good business practice. Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time http://gallery.me.com/jomac -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Different by Pentax
On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Bob W wrote: provide Cotty's email address. The gmail one? Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Loose moose
More of an elk man, myself. On 21/12/2010, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: it's not your moose is it? I used to live at that location. In the house where the car is parked in the last shot. It's a good mile from the city centre On 18/12/2010, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wear-12022404 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
On 22/12/2010 2:55 PM, Eric Weir wrote: You may remember my asking for feedback on a Manfrotto Compact Ball Head 496 with RC2 Rapid Connect Plate a while back. At the time I inquired the head was being offered at Adorama with a $50 rebate. The offer was clear. It is still in effect. http://www.adorama.com/BG496RC2.html?utm_source=dealtimeutm_medium=Shopping%20Siteutm_campaign=Otherutm_term=Other If you click on the view/download rebate on that page, the offer is backed up with this: Rebate Information Manfrotto Compact Ball Head 496 with RC2 Rapid Connect Plate, Maximum Load: 13.2 lbs/ 6 kg $50.00 Mfr Rebate from Dec 1, 2010 - Jan 15, 2011 After placing my order and downloading the rebate form, however, I found that the rebate applied only if you also purchased a tripod. I have have had an email exchange with customer service. Their position is unrelenting: The offer is what is described on the rebate form, and I should have checked it before making my purchase. Mine is that they are obliged to honor the offer as described on the website made in the original description and confirmed at the view rebate link. The full price for this head is reasonable. I might have eventually ended up purchasing it at the full price down the road, but I was certainly not going to pass it up at what I understood the offer to be. The issue is more one of principle. Even if I'm right, however, there's a point beyond which pursuing it is not worth the effort. I may have passed it already. Still, I'm interested in your thoughts. Who is right, Adorama or me? If me, what recourse do I have? Thanks, Hi Eric I agree, that sort of thing annoys me no end - bury the important details in the fine print (or the third clicks). But that said, the rebate is coming from Manfrotto. I feel it isn't reasonable for Adorama to put up the complete details on the little pop-up. Personally, I would think, as you do, that the original price is fair, and the $50 is a bonus. Anyway, this is actually how rebates work; they figure only a certain percentage will claim. My experiences with Adorama have been consistently positive (second only to KEH). Popped a used Leitz 90mm Elmarit in my cart the other night. Not that I need another 90, but I don't have a chrome version. Going price was a reasonable $499. This morning, I got an email saying there was a mistake in the listing, and the version was actually the earlier E39 not E46. Offered it to me for 300 bucks. I actually quite like the look of the vulcanite retro-ness, so I snapped it up. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -Bowens Wharf; Newport, RI
Well, the camera was hand held, I was braced against the wall, but as I mentioned in the Shop Girl photo... On 12/22/2010 1:04 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hand held but braced against the wall. You have to get your act together and decide, Peter. You cannot do both at once /grin/. Somehow many low-light winter pictures make me think about Harry Potter movies... This one is no exception. That would have to be a compliment, really. Boris On 12/21/2010 9:55 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Night shot, camera braced against a wall. Hand held. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20bowenswharfnewportri.html Equipment:, Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax M 35mm f2.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO well, that was silly
On 22/12/2010 7:08 AM, Larry Colen wrote: Driving 50 miles on a rainyish night to shoot pictures of the moon through clouds, on a tripod that isn't really up to the task, when everyone knows that stacking teleconverters doesn't work. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157625521578699/ At least I got a pretty good picture of a cow in the dark http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5280599849/in/set-72157625647350858/ It will come to you, this love of the land. Cow shot alone would be well worth the drive for me. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
It could be intentional deception or it could simply be some web developers sloppiness, I'd be unhappy either way. On 12/22/2010 3:41 AM, Cotty wrote: On 21/12/10, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: You may remember my asking for feedback on a Manfrotto Compact Ball Head 496 with RC2 Rapid Connect Plate a while back. At the time I inquired the head was being offered at Adorama with a $50 rebate. The offer was clear. It is still in effect. http://www.adorama.com/BG496RC2.html? utm_source=dealtimeutm_medium=Shopping %20Siteutm_campaign=Otherutm_term=Other Eric, I find lots of US sales pages confusing in the way they are laid out, they seem designed to bamboozle the purchaser with over-information. Step 1, I see the item for sale with an offer of 50 bucks back, no mention of a tripod. Step 2 I click on the 'View/Download Rebate' link, I see another small window open confirming a 50 dollar rebate with purchase of the ballhead only, no mention of a tripod at all. Step 3 I click on the 'Download Rebate' link and see a whole different ballgame with tripod purchase required. Personally there's no way I would have purchased the ballhead without looking through all the links first. That said, the way the rebate is presented, only at step 3, is confusing in the least, and downright bad business practice and deceit at most. In the UK, we have a national Trading Standards office, and if this was a British company I would be on the phone to them - but only after giving Adorama the chance to honour their offer first. I would also download the relevant web pages and links to hard drive because they may well see how confusing it is and change things on a whim. On the other hand, is it worth the aggravation for $50? For me, I would simply not shop with any company displaying such bad business practices. YMMV. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO well, that was silly
On 12/21/2010 6:06 PM, Bob W wrote: Driving 50 miles on a rainyish night to shoot pictures of the moon through clouds, on a tripod that isn't really up to the task, when everyone knows that stacking teleconverters doesn't work. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157625521578699/ At least I got a pretty good picture of a cow in the dark http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5280599849/in/set- 72157625647350858/ shame you couldn't get it jumping over the moon. I've seen more lunar eclipses than you can bay at. They tend to get a bit sameish after a while. Not worth driving 50 miles for. B Well yea, but this was the only total lunar eclipse taking place on the winter solstice, in 300 years. The next one won't occur for another like period of time. It seems a shame to not try to capture it since you'll never have the opportunity again. That said, it does look pretty much like every other total eclipse. I didn't have the optionf as I was already traveling 60 miles for an evening of drunken debauchery, perhaps I should try sober debauchery next time. It was overcast the whole way as well. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO well, that was silly
On Dec 22, 2010, at 1:16 AM, Derby Chang wrote: On 22/12/2010 7:08 AM, Larry Colen wrote: Driving 50 miles on a rainyish night to shoot pictures of the moon through clouds, on a tripod that isn't really up to the task, when everyone knows that stacking teleconverters doesn't work. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157625521578699/ At least I got a pretty good picture of a cow in the dark http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5280599849/in/set-72157625647350858/ It will come to you, this love of the land. Cow shot alone would be well worth the drive for me. Thanks a lot. It's funny but the keeper shot is so often not the one that I was going to take when I start. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Gangster Car
I thought gangsters would have preferred dark colored saloons, less conspicuous better cover for the hardware. A rumble seat is for flappers... On 12/18/2010 1:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=41 Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are Always Welcome. Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso's The old farm stead.
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: I didn't know you used to farm, Dave. Nice picture of the farm house anyway. Cheers, Christine Shh. I didn't. Just lived there. Dave - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net; Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com; Petch Dianne dianne.pe...@yahoo.com Cc: Home Sarah sarah.h...@firstgroup.com; Conley Leah leah.con...@firstgroup.com; Smillie Dale dale.smil...@firstgroup.com; Wonch Joyce joyce.wo...@firstgroup.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 2:35 PM Subject: Peso's The old farm stead. Went for a local drive today. There is still +- a foot of more of snow on the ground and finally the sun came out. The old farmstead: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12126515 Looks like they may be fixing the roof, which could mean they really are going to save it. New front yard view: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12126516 A Kia dealership is now in the front yard. Toyota is behind me here. K10D, D FA 50-200 LR2.7. Side note: No LR adjustments for snow whiteness. I just added +0.3 and +0.7 EV when needed for exposure, other wise the K10D metering did a good job. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso's The old farm stead.
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 4:30 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Kind of sad to see the Kia dealership there. How long ago did you leave the farm? Paul We bought this place in town in late 1983, Did not live there more than 3-4 years, we moved to it in March 1981, but it was a wonderful old house, with stream and pond. Farmer next door grew corn and hay mostly. Erin was born here as well. I mentioned before, or at least i think i did, that the place was haunted. No i'm not hi or drunk, it really was, which makes it even sadder not knowing what George will do. It is supposed to be saved and integrated into the subdivision plan, but we'll see. The house next door was to be saved as well, but it caught financial combustion last year. Developer has been charged. Seems just about all of the houses that were to be saved on all of their projects have caught fire, except this one. Dave On Dec 21, 2010, at 3:35 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Went for a local drive today. There is still +- a foot of more of snow on the ground and finally the sun came out. The old farmstead: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12126515 Looks like they may be fixing the roof, which could mean they really are going to save it. New front yard view: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12126516 A Kia dealership is now in the front yard. Toyota is behind me here. K10D, D FA 50-200 LR2.7. Side note: No LR adjustments for snow whiteness. I just added +0.3 and +0.7 EV when needed for exposure, other wise the K10D metering did a good job. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso's The old farm stead.
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Especially like Farmstead. As you know, barn architecture has filled my viewfinder many times. Jack Yes i do.;-) Dave --- On Tue, 12/21/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Peso's The old farm stead. To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com, Petch Dianne dianne.pe...@yahoo.com Cc: Home Sarah sarah.h...@firstgroup.com, Conley Leah leah.con...@firstgroup.com, Smillie Dale dale.smil...@firstgroup.com, Wonch Joyce joyce.wo...@firstgroup.com Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 12:35 PM Went for a local drive today. There is still +- a foot of more of snow on the ground and finally the sun came out. The old farmstead: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12126515 Looks like they may be fixing the roof, which could mean they really are going to save it. New front yard view: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12126516 A Kia dealership is now in the front yard. Toyota is behind me here. K10D, D FA 50-200 LR2.7. Side note: No LR adjustments for snow whiteness. I just added +0.3 and +0.7 EV when needed for exposure, other wise the K10D metering did a good job. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:57 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Having had my share of 'misunderstandings' with local merchants and other providers I tend to first download all there is to download and read all there is to read. Admit, Eric, that if you had done that, you wouldn't have proceeded with the transaction. Otherwise - well, I am no lawyer, but you can always shout angrily at them and hope for positive outcome. Thanks, Boris. You're absolutely right. I let my generally benign view of retailers get the best of me. And as I said, I might eventually have proceeded with the transaction, just not at that time, under that offer. Perhaps the lesson I should take from this is retailers, and business in general, are just not to be trusted: Read the fine print. Carefully. And they say the market doesn't need to be regulated? That we should just trust them? As for shouting angrily, with the exception of following up on the suggestion that I send an email to the customer advocate at Adorama, I think I've gotten about what I can expect from it. I have to say my dealings with individuals on eBay have been more principled than this. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - The Cyclocommuter
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/12/cyclocommuter.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO x2: House of Travel Triathlon Festival
Part 2, # 17, is that suit painted on Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Cyclocommuter
Wonderful, Frank. Your sense of place and occasion is second to none. On 12/22/2010 1:34 PM, frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/12/cyclocommuter.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
I think you're right. The page should have said when purchased with tripod. You have little recourse other than to keep pointing that out. Talking to a higher level person might help. Any other course of action isn't worth your time. Paul On Dec 21, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Eric Weir wrote: You may remember my asking for feedback on a Manfrotto Compact Ball Head 496 with RC2 Rapid Connect Plate a while back. At the time I inquired the head was being offered at Adorama with a $50 rebate. The offer was clear. It is still in effect. http://www.adorama.com/BG496RC2.html?utm_source=dealtimeutm_medium=Shopping%20Siteutm_campaign=Otherutm_term=Other If you click on the view/download rebate on that page, the offer is backed up with this: Rebate Information Manfrotto Compact Ball Head 496 with RC2 Rapid Connect Plate, Maximum Load: 13.2 lbs/ 6 kg $50.00 Mfr Rebate from Dec 1, 2010 - Jan 15, 2011 After placing my order and downloading the rebate form, however, I found that the rebate applied only if you also purchased a tripod. I have have had an email exchange with customer service. Their position is unrelenting: The offer is what is described on the rebate form, and I should have checked it before making my purchase. Mine is that they are obliged to honor the offer as described on the website made in the original description and confirmed at the view rebate link. The full price for this head is reasonable. I might have eventually ended up purchasing it at the full price down the road, but I was certainly not going to pass it up at what I understood the offer to be. The issue is more one of principle. Even if I'm right, however, there's a point beyond which pursuing it is not worth the effort. I may have passed it already. Still, I'm interested in your thoughts. Who is right, Adorama or me? If me, what recourse do I have? Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - coffee shop portrait
Thanks Christine. On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:49 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Geeze, that's great. ISO 1600. Looks great, Paul. An expressive face indeed, and nicely caught on camera. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 7:28 PM Subject: PESO - coffee shop portrait I really wanted to shoot this lady because she was very expressive. But she was quite close and I was in her field of vision. And of course, if she knew I was shooting her that would destroy the moment. So I shot her using live view with the camera in my lap. The K-5 live view autofocus is a huge improvement over that of the k-7. It's very useful. This pic is at ISO 1600, f4, 1.250th, 60mm, the lens was the DA* 60-250. Shot this past Saturday. Mostly window light from a wide expanse of windows on a cloudy day. That's my favorite lighting setup for this venue. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12112198 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG VOTING
On Dec 21, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I'm surprised anyone cares. Voting is a colossal waste of time. My political philosophy. That too. Paul Feeling inordinately gruff, after a horrible 24-hour flu. On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 8:29 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 21, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Reads as though you must have read my last email to Pentax.;) Seems to me that if the voting is allowed to continue, the 20% criterion may be ultimately met even though the image was allegedly toast at 60 votes. Makes my head hurt. My guess is that many have become bored with voting and those who are may be spending time on dead horse images.(??) Jack I'm surprised anyone cares. Voting is a colossal waste of time. --- On Tue, 12/21/10, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PPG VOTING To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 3:47 PM 2010/12/21 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: I so don't get this, but I'm told that due to time constraints, voting may go on beyond the 60 to as many as 200. Couldn't get a clear answer as to why. Why should the largly dead horse voting be allowed to continue, thus detracting from surviving image voting and delaying the process? My understanding is that If it gets 12 nays out of 60, it is removed from the queue and flagged as rejected on the artist's page. If you get a fast rejection, it's because of getting 12 nays before reaching a total of 60 votes. What would be interesting to know is what happens as votes accumulate beyond 60. 12 out of 60 is 20%. Does that mean that if ever a photo tops 20% nays, it's out? That seems logical to me. I assume votes can accumulate until presented to the Pentax team. So time constraints could very well be a way to say that the team don't have time to meet frequently enough to do away with the queue at 60 votes. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Old Friend ... the FA*24
I like the fave shot. Nice composition, great color. Haven't looked at the rest yet. Why do you leave the hood at home? (I'm not familiar with this lens.) And what do you use for a hood? Paul On Dec 22, 2010, at 1:51 AM, Andrew Allen wrote: Fell in love with this little silver bullet the first time it touched my K20D a few years ago ... can't get enough of the focal length especially; it's everything the FA35/2 on film is/was. Amazing color rendering and contrast, not all that large, fast, and just plain fun to shoot with (I typically leave the hood at home; it's my only gripe). So who else is shooting with this old 'relic'? There seems to be lots of clamoring for an updated version of this focal length. Here is my gallery with the lens: www.photobucket.com/PentaxFA24 And one of my fave shots with the lens: http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc130/AMMouse/Pentax%20K100D%20Super/Pentax%20FA24/PK717266a1.jpg Any thoughts? -- Andrew Allen Freelance Photographer and Writer www.andrewallenphoto.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Old Friend ... the FA*24
On Dec 22, 2010, at 2:14 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: I reckon I should write it in my blog somewhere. Photograph is 95% photographer (building a composition, choosing a light, applying proper technique, etc), 4% a lens and 1% a camera. You're a good photographer, Andy, but it makes almost no sense (like 24:1 ratio) to talk about how good are your lenses. I for one, get excellent results from my Sigma EX 24-60/2.8. Wonderful optic, that Sigma. To support my point, here is a recently published article: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/thoughts_on_medium_format_cameras.shtml Please look for Better Cameras Can Produce Worse Pictures section. IMO it is right on the money. Boris I tend to agree. I used to carry around a case full of primes. There was some justification for that 30 years ago, because zooms were slow and inferior. But five or six years ago, I started to realize that no longer made sense. These days, I generally make do with three or four good zooms that cover everything from 12mm to 250mm. And the quality of my images doesn't suffer in the least. Paul On 12/22/2010 8:51 AM, Andrew Allen wrote: Fell in love with this little silver bullet the first time it touched my K20D a few years ago ... can't get enough of the focal length especially; it's everything the FA35/2 on film is/was. Amazing color rendering and contrast, not all that large, fast, and just plain fun to shoot with (I typically leave the hood at home; it's my only gripe). So who else is shooting with this old 'relic'? There seems to be lots of clamoring for an updated version of this focal length. Here is my gallery with the lens: www.photobucket.com/PentaxFA24 And one of my fave shots with the lens: http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc130/AMMouse/Pentax%20K100D%20Super/Pentax%20FA24/PK717266a1.jpg Any thoughts? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG VOTING
2010/12/22 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: Reads as though you must have read my last email to Pentax.;) Seems to me that if the voting is allowed to continue, the 20% criterion may be ultimately met even though the image was allegedly toast at 60 votes. Makes my head hurt. My guess is that many have become bored with voting and those who are may be spending time on dead horse images.(??) Rest your head, Jack. :-) If a photo receives 12 nays before reaching 60 votes, it's automatically out. No beating of dead horses. If a photo receives 20% nays after reaching 60 votes, it's automatically out. Those horses will no longer be beaten either. More votes (60) does not work against any photo per se, it just means that the percentage is drawn from a larger sample of votes. So the surplus votes are not beating dead horses, but rather firming up the percentages for the keepers. Of course, an image could encounter a batch of nay-votes late in the process, making it tip the 20% balance. But the more votes, the more likely is that percentage to be representative for general opinion. :-) Anyway, it's the three weeks' turnover that is the real problem. My guess is that the gallery requires more human attention than Pentax anticipated. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Old Friend ... the FA*24
On 12/22/2010 2:01 PM, paul stenquist wrote: I tend to agree. I used to carry around a case full of primes. There was some justification for that 30 years ago, because zooms were slow and inferior. But five or six years ago, I started to realize that no longer made sense. These days, I generally make do with three or four good zooms that cover everything from 12mm to 250mm. And the quality of my images doesn't suffer in the least. Paul Well, there are still cases when primes would be more useful. Say when f/2.8 widest aperture of the zoom is not enough. But given the fact that I am worse a photographer than my FA Limited lenses, I can shoot with Sigma EX fast zoom and be happy. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Old Friend ... the FA*24
It's rare that f2.8 gives one too much depth of field. However, I do have an FA 50/1.4 if I need it. And unlike some of the older primes, the new zooms are actually sharp at 2.8. The DA* 16-50/2.8 is sharper at 50mm and 2.8 than is the FA 50/1.4. In terms of low light, high ISO performance makes 2.8 feasible almost anywhere. Paul On Dec 22, 2010, at 7:50 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 12/22/2010 2:01 PM, paul stenquist wrote: I tend to agree. I used to carry around a case full of primes. There was some justification for that 30 years ago, because zooms were slow and inferior. But five or six years ago, I started to realize that no longer made sense. These days, I generally make do with three or four good zooms that cover everything from 12mm to 250mm. And the quality of my images doesn't suffer in the least. Paul Well, there are still cases when primes would be more useful. Say when f/2.8 widest aperture of the zoom is not enough. But given the fact that I am worse a photographer than my FA Limited lenses, I can shoot with Sigma EX fast zoom and be happy. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Cyclocommuter
Exudes dignity. Very well composed, Frank! Jack --- On Wed, 12/22/10, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - The Cyclocommuter To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 3:34 AM http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/12/cyclocommuter.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Laptops As Desktops
This is how I work too. I have my laptop sitting closed underneath my desk on a filing cabinet, and running two Dell u2410 monitors side by side (horizontally). The left is calibrated so is basically open to LR/PS permanently, and the right I usually use for displaying Firefox, Office documents (excel, word , powerpoint etc), and Outlook. I have a Wacom tablet, and a WIRED low profile keyboard and mouse that remain permanently on my desk, as well as 2TB of external mirrored (running RAID 1) HDDs that I save all of my completed work to. Ie. 2 x 1TBs. (I have another copy of these at my Father-in-Laws house for my offsite backup too. I also have an additional 500gb external drive that I save my personal and family images/documents on. I have another third, small HDD (320gb) that is teeny tiny and doesn't require power, and that is what I travel with, and use to download my SD cards too and everthing that hasn't been edited yet lives on that HDD. Once I have completed editing a shoot, I move it over to the mirrored one. So, this is what I have permanently packed in my travel backpack - mousepad, wired mouse, a hdmi cable, a vga cable (for displaying slideshows on LCDs if I need to), an extra laptop charger, 1 x mini usb cable, 1 x standard usb cable, 1 x iphone/ipod charger, 1 x AA recycled battery charger, and 1 x extra K-7 battery charger. By keeping additional pieces of these things, it means that when I travel, or need to take my laptop with me, I simply unplug everything from it grab my travel bag and my little mini HDD (the 320gb one), and off I go. I got SO sick of unplugging everything and threading bloody cables out from behind my monitors etc that I set up this little travel bag, and I've never looked back! The bag I have is this one here: http://www.crumpler.com/AU/Camera-Bags/Camera-Backpacks/Sinking-Barge-Deluxe .html?SKU=SI06ALanguageCode=EN It's freaking enormous, and I have almost taken out many a fellow passenger as I have walked through the aisles of an aeroplane, but I can fit my little travel bag of goodies in the top half of the bag, as well as my laptop, and a magazine and even a change of clothes if I need to, and then on the bottom half, I usually bring my two favourite lenses, one camera body, one flash gun and all of my SD cards/spare batteries. That way, if my luggage goes missing, I have everything I need to get me outta trouble ie. Enough to complete a shoot. That thing weighs a tonne, and it is always my mission to carry it on my back looking like I am not struggling under it's 18kg weight (when fully loaded), as the carry on limit is usually 7.5kg. I've never been pulled up yet though! Lol. Anyways, back on topic - Paul, I toyed with having multiple computers, but I travel too much and found when I had them that I would lose emails, not knowing which computer it came in on etc, and I love to be able to pick up my laptop, take it with me and know that all of my work is there, and that everything is current without having to synchronise computers/calendars etc. I do use Google Calendar now for this purpose too, and have been considering starting some Cloud type off-site storage but the cost is ridiculous for the volume I would need to store, so I will continue this way for now. Tan. :) -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2010 3:30 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Laptops As Desktops On Dec 20, 2010, at 12:20 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2010-12-20 04:54 , paul stenquist wrote: That's certainly a viable solution, and a number of photographers and art directors that I know work much the same way. I prefer having my laptop unencumbered, because I use it away from my desk quite often. there's a middle ground -- in my case as soon as i reach my home office a 2nd display and a wired keyboard are attached; i set up the same in those cases i regularly visit another workplace; on more stable days i also plug in a Firewire drive dock (for secondary backups -- critical backup are wireless via Time Machine), and sometimes a USB scanner, but it's a cinch to disconnect these items and walk out with the laptop -- i have a backpack ready, and a 2nd power supply if i think i'll need it Sounds like a good solution. But I frequently move from the desk to another location two or three times a day, so separate computers work well for me. Plus, I e-mail all work to myself and download it to the other computer, when I switch off, so that gives me an extra backup as well. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --
Re: My Old Friend ... the FA*24
On 12/22/2010 3:07 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: It's rare that f2.8 gives one too much depth of field. However, I do have an FA 50/1.4 if I need it. And unlike some of the older primes, the new zooms are actually sharp at 2.8. The DA* 16-50/2.8 is sharper at 50mm and 2.8 than is the FA 50/1.4. In terms of low light, high ISO performance makes 2.8 feasible almost anywhere. Paul Oh, that's entirely possible. After all, I still have K-7 which lags behind K-5 in low light performance. You're right about the aperture though, that by careful work on the frame one can solve most of DOF problems. Indeed, I find 24-60/2.8 practically ideal for my style of shooting - moderate wide to portrait tele. Sharpness wide open is still less than my FA limited primes at f/2.8 but acceptable nonetheless. No issues with color fidelity. Only minor issues with flare. Reasonably small, light, excellent build... I think that they way I think/feel about Sigma is very similar to what you think/feel about your DA* 16-50, Paul. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Laptops As Desktops
Oh, I just realised that I linked you to the incorrect bag that I have. I have the Customary Barge Deluxe which is larger than the Sinking Barge Deluxe, and is here: http://www.crumpler.com/AU/Camera-Bags/Camera-Backpacks/Customary-Barge-Delu xe.html?LanguageCode=ENSKU=CU06A Next though, I am going to get myself one of these: http://www.crumpler.com/AU/Camera-Bags/Rolling-Camera-Bags/Cork-and-Fork.htm l?LanguageCode=ENSKU=CF01A Only problem is that it only fits a 13 laptop, and mine is 15.6 so need to wait until they bring out one that will fit! Tan.x. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tanya Love Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2010 11:30 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Laptops As Desktops This is how I work too. I have my laptop sitting closed underneath my desk on a filing cabinet, and running two Dell u2410 monitors side by side (horizontally). The left is calibrated so is basically open to LR/PS permanently, and the right I usually use for displaying Firefox, Office documents (excel, word , powerpoint etc), and Outlook. I have a Wacom tablet, and a WIRED low profile keyboard and mouse that remain permanently on my desk, as well as 2TB of external mirrored (running RAID 1) HDDs that I save all of my completed work to. Ie. 2 x 1TBs. (I have another copy of these at my Father-in-Laws house for my offsite backup too. I also have an additional 500gb external drive that I save my personal and family images/documents on. I have another third, small HDD (320gb) that is teeny tiny and doesn't require power, and that is what I travel with, and use to download my SD cards too and everthing that hasn't been edited yet lives on that HDD. Once I have completed editing a shoot, I move it over to the mirrored one. So, this is what I have permanently packed in my travel backpack - mousepad, wired mouse, a hdmi cable, a vga cable (for displaying slideshows on LCDs if I need to), an extra laptop charger, 1 x mini usb cable, 1 x standard usb cable, 1 x iphone/ipod charger, 1 x AA recycled battery charger, and 1 x extra K-7 battery charger. By keeping additional pieces of these things, it means that when I travel, or need to take my laptop with me, I simply unplug everything from it grab my travel bag and my little mini HDD (the 320gb one), and off I go. I got SO sick of unplugging everything and threading bloody cables out from behind my monitors etc that I set up this little travel bag, and I've never looked back! The bag I have is this one here: http://www.crumpler.com/AU/Camera-Bags/Camera-Backpacks/Sinking-Barge-Deluxe .html?SKU=SI06ALanguageCode=EN It's freaking enormous, and I have almost taken out many a fellow passenger as I have walked through the aisles of an aeroplane, but I can fit my little travel bag of goodies in the top half of the bag, as well as my laptop, and a magazine and even a change of clothes if I need to, and then on the bottom half, I usually bring my two favourite lenses, one camera body, one flash gun and all of my SD cards/spare batteries. That way, if my luggage goes missing, I have everything I need to get me outta trouble ie. Enough to complete a shoot. That thing weighs a tonne, and it is always my mission to carry it on my back looking like I am not struggling under it's 18kg weight (when fully loaded), as the carry on limit is usually 7.5kg. I've never been pulled up yet though! Lol. Anyways, back on topic - Paul, I toyed with having multiple computers, but I travel too much and found when I had them that I would lose emails, not knowing which computer it came in on etc, and I love to be able to pick up my laptop, take it with me and know that all of my work is there, and that everything is current without having to synchronise computers/calendars etc. I do use Google Calendar now for this purpose too, and have been considering starting some Cloud type off-site storage but the cost is ridiculous for the volume I would need to store, so I will continue this way for now. Tan. :) -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2010 3:30 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Laptops As Desktops On Dec 20, 2010, at 12:20 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2010-12-20 04:54 , paul stenquist wrote: That's certainly a viable solution, and a number of photographers and art directors that I know work much the same way. I prefer having my laptop unencumbered, because I use it away from my desk quite often. there's a middle ground -- in my case as soon as i reach my home office a 2nd display and a wired keyboard are attached; i set up the same in those cases i regularly visit another workplace; on more stable days i also plug in a Firewire drive dock (for secondary backups -- critical backup are wireless via Time Machine), and sometimes a USB scanner, but it's a cinch to disconnect these items and
Re: GESO well, that was silly
Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 21, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Larry Colen wrote: Driving 50 miles on a rainyish night to shoot pictures of the moon through clouds, on a tripod that isn't really up to the task, when everyone knows that stacking teleconverters doesn't work. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157625521578699/ At least I got a pretty good picture of a cow in the dark http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5280599849/in/set-72157625647350858/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est Yeah they are somewhat soft, but how exciting to record it anyway - lots more detail than your self-debricating comment would have lead me to believe... and you got that color nicely. The composition on the cow is very nice, but on my monitor the sky is bogus... like you fiddle with it too much in photoshop - or something -- I've seen that when I've done something correctional to the sky too Ann, I had done a little fiddling with the levels on one of my pictures in that set to bring the clouds out a bit more, so I checked my lightroom command history on that shot: Import and publish, I didn't even correct the exposure, much less the color. That's the color of the sodium lights reflecting off the clouds. Do you prefer the version where I set the white balance to the clouds? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5281954625/in/set-72157625647350858/ Glad to see the moon shots Thanks At first I thought you were talking about your moon shot... then I see you are talking about the cow it isn't the COLOR of the sky ... but the effect I saw is corrected with the blue sky. I jsut don't know what the techy term is for the phenomenon that I've only seen when I have overphotoshopped something trying to fix it. something, I imagine, could occur in camera as well. So the fiddling to bring the clouds out more is probably the culpert. I'm buried under Christmas at the moment... at some point I can do a before and aftert hign to show you what I mean, if someone else hasn't noted the samething and given it is proper name :-) The _color_ behind the silhouette was likeable.. ann ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO well, that was silly
Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 22, 2010, at 1:16 AM, Derby Chang wrote: On 22/12/2010 7:08 AM, Larry Colen wrote: Driving 50 miles on a rainyish night to shoot pictures of the moon through clouds, on a tripod that isn't really up to the task, when everyone knows that stacking teleconverters doesn't work. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157625521578699/ At least I got a pretty good picture of a cow in the dark http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5280599849/in/set-72157625647350858/ It will come to you, this love of the land. Cow shot alone would be well worth the drive for me. Thanks a lot. It's funny but the keeper shot is so often not the one that I was going to take when I start. Boy, gimmy a dollar for all the times _that_ has happened to me and I'll be solvent again! ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG VOTING
I agree, I was told the voting is allowed to continue because the team just can't keep up.(??) I guess my basic wonderment is why allow voting beyond 60 when there are live (new) images in the queue awaiting voters. More votes being a better quality assessment notwithstanding. I offered my appreciation for the PPG. It is a stimulant that is absolutely basic to the nature of the photo enthusiasts. Exposure, judgment and approval are sought to validate an emotional investment. Jack --- On Wed, 12/22/10, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PPG VOTING To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 4:39 AM 2010/12/22 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: Reads as though you must have read my last email to Pentax.;) Seems to me that if the voting is allowed to continue, the 20% criterion may be ultimately met even though the image was allegedly toast at 60 votes. Makes my head hurt. My guess is that many have become bored with voting and those who are may be spending time on dead horse images.(??) Rest your head, Jack. :-) If a photo receives 12 nays before reaching 60 votes, it's automatically out. No beating of dead horses. If a photo receives 20% nays after reaching 60 votes, it's automatically out. Those horses will no longer be beaten either. More votes (60) does not work against any photo per se, it just means that the percentage is drawn from a larger sample of votes. So the surplus votes are not beating dead horses, but rather firming up the percentages for the keepers. Of course, an image could encounter a batch of nay-votes late in the process, making it tip the 20% balance. But the more votes, the more likely is that percentage to be representative for general opinion. :-) Anyway, it's the three weeks' turnover that is the real problem. My guess is that the gallery requires more human attention than Pentax anticipated. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Loose moose
mike wilson wrote: More of an elk man, myself. On 21/12/2010, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: it's not your moose is it? Oh, deer ! ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG VOTING
Sorry. I fought bronchitis for two weeks. As I grow wiser, these bouts of common illnesses just kick my ass. On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 6:50 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 21, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I'm surprised anyone cares. Voting is a colossal waste of time. My political philosophy. That too. Paul Feeling inordinately gruff, after a horrible 24-hour flu. On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 8:29 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 21, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Reads as though you must have read my last email to Pentax.;) Seems to me that if the voting is allowed to continue, the 20% criterion may be ultimately met even though the image was allegedly toast at 60 votes. Makes my head hurt. My guess is that many have become bored with voting and those who are may be spending time on dead horse images.(??) Jack I'm surprised anyone cares. Voting is a colossal waste of time. --- On Tue, 12/21/10, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PPG VOTING To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 3:47 PM 2010/12/21 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: I so don't get this, but I'm told that due to time constraints, voting may go on beyond the 60 to as many as 200. Couldn't get a clear answer as to why. Why should the largly dead horse voting be allowed to continue, thus detracting from surviving image voting and delaying the process? My understanding is that If it gets 12 nays out of 60, it is removed from the queue and flagged as rejected on the artist's page. If you get a fast rejection, it's because of getting 12 nays before reaching a total of 60 votes. What would be interesting to know is what happens as votes accumulate beyond 60. 12 out of 60 is 20%. Does that mean that if ever a photo tops 20% nays, it's out? That seems logical to me. I assume votes can accumulate until presented to the Pentax team. So time constraints could very well be a way to say that the team don't have time to meet frequently enough to do away with the queue at 60 votes. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Cyclocommuter
And a dapper chap he is! Nice catch. On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Exudes dignity. Very well composed, Frank! Jack --- On Wed, 12/22/10, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - The Cyclocommuter To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 3:34 AM http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/12/cyclocommuter.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG VOTING
On 12/22/2010 3:52 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Sorry. I fought bronchitis for two weeks. As I grow wiser, these bouts of common illnesses just kick my ass. It begs to notice here that bronchitis has nothing to do with the lower parts of human body. At least usually. But seriously - get well Steve and Paul! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Laptops As Desktops
You know, Tan, it might just easier to make friends in the all the countries you visit and go to their houses to work. Make it PDML folks, and surreptitiously talk them all into buying the computer setups you need. I have faith in your charm and guile. On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: This is how I work too. I have my laptop sitting closed underneath my desk on a filing cabinet, and running two Dell u2410 monitors side by side (horizontally). The left is calibrated so is basically open to LR/PS permanently, and the right I usually use for displaying Firefox, Office documents (excel, word , powerpoint etc), and Outlook. I have a Wacom tablet, and a WIRED low profile keyboard and mouse that remain permanently on my desk, as well as 2TB of external mirrored (running RAID 1) HDDs that I save all of my completed work to. Ie. 2 x 1TBs. (I have another copy of these at my Father-in-Laws house for my offsite backup too. I also have an additional 500gb external drive that I save my personal and family images/documents on. I have another third, small HDD (320gb) that is teeny tiny and doesn't require power, and that is what I travel with, and use to download my SD cards too and everthing that hasn't been edited yet lives on that HDD. Once I have completed editing a shoot, I move it over to the mirrored one. So, this is what I have permanently packed in my travel backpack - mousepad, wired mouse, a hdmi cable, a vga cable (for displaying slideshows on LCDs if I need to), an extra laptop charger, 1 x mini usb cable, 1 x standard usb cable, 1 x iphone/ipod charger, 1 x AA recycled battery charger, and 1 x extra K-7 battery charger. By keeping additional pieces of these things, it means that when I travel, or need to take my laptop with me, I simply unplug everything from it grab my travel bag and my little mini HDD (the 320gb one), and off I go. I got SO sick of unplugging everything and threading bloody cables out from behind my monitors etc that I set up this little travel bag, and I've never looked back! The bag I have is this one here: http://www.crumpler.com/AU/Camera-Bags/Camera-Backpacks/Sinking-Barge-Deluxe .html?SKU=SI06ALanguageCode=EN It's freaking enormous, and I have almost taken out many a fellow passenger as I have walked through the aisles of an aeroplane, but I can fit my little travel bag of goodies in the top half of the bag, as well as my laptop, and a magazine and even a change of clothes if I need to, and then on the bottom half, I usually bring my two favourite lenses, one camera body, one flash gun and all of my SD cards/spare batteries. That way, if my luggage goes missing, I have everything I need to get me outta trouble ie. Enough to complete a shoot. That thing weighs a tonne, and it is always my mission to carry it on my back looking like I am not struggling under it's 18kg weight (when fully loaded), as the carry on limit is usually 7.5kg. I've never been pulled up yet though! Lol. Anyways, back on topic - Paul, I toyed with having multiple computers, but I travel too much and found when I had them that I would lose emails, not knowing which computer it came in on etc, and I love to be able to pick up my laptop, take it with me and know that all of my work is there, and that everything is current without having to synchronise computers/calendars etc. I do use Google Calendar now for this purpose too, and have been considering starting some Cloud type off-site storage but the cost is ridiculous for the volume I would need to store, so I will continue this way for now. Tan. :) -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2010 3:30 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Laptops As Desktops On Dec 20, 2010, at 12:20 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2010-12-20 04:54 , paul stenquist wrote: That's certainly a viable solution, and a number of photographers and art directors that I know work much the same way. I prefer having my laptop unencumbered, because I use it away from my desk quite often. there's a middle ground -- in my case as soon as i reach my home office a 2nd display and a wired keyboard are attached; i set up the same in those cases i regularly visit another workplace; on more stable days i also plug in a Firewire drive dock (for secondary backups -- critical backup are wireless via Time Machine), and sometimes a USB scanner, but it's a cinch to disconnect these items and walk out with the laptop -- i have a backpack ready, and a 2nd power supply if i think i'll need it Sounds like a good solution. But I frequently move from the desk to another location two or three times a day, so separate computers work well for me. Plus, I e-mail all work to myself and download it to the other computer, when I switch off, so that gives me an extra backup as well.
Envisioning Larry with a Hugema (Was: GESO well, that was silly)
This is how Larry would probably look with the appropriate lens, shooting the Moon (or the Sun?) without his not really up to the task tripod: http://juzaphoto.com/shared_files/bio/juza_200-500.jpg :-) Cheers, Igor PS. There are some very colorful photos on that photographer's website: http://juzaphoto.com/eng/photo_galleries.htm http://juzaphoto.com/eng/juza_portfolio.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Laptops As Desktops
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I have faith in your charm and guile. Mark. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
On 2010-12-22 1:11, Eric Weir wrote: Perhaps the lesson I should take from this is retailers, and business in general, are just not to be trusted: Read the fine print. Carefully. [...] That we should just trust them? My views might be a bit jaundiced, but trust isn't part of the equation when you're entering into any transaction or contract. Everything has to be spelled out or there'll be trouble later. It doesn't matter what anyone said; what's written down is what counts. The other side of that coin is what hit you: one party can do things that obscure the details to the detriment of the other party, intentionally or not. If the transaction is big enough to make it economically worthwhile, and the behavior egregious enough, that can be actionable in court. Of course, you've then got to convince the judge or jury. As for shouting angrily, with the exception of following up on the suggestion that I send an email to the customer advocate at Adorama, I think I've gotten about what I can expect from it. I don't shout. But at the conclusion of the deal, I snail mail a letter to the manager (or whatever) to let them know I won't be back and why. It may not matter to them, but if I just leave, they can't know that at least one of their customers considers that they have a problem. I have to say my dealings with individuals on eBay have been more principled than this. Keep trying; ebay can surely bite you, too. In less than fifty transactions I've been hosed three times (broken or grossly misrepresented items) and ebay was no help. Speaking of which, anyone interested in a motor drive for a Spottie? At least, I think that's what it is. It was represented as an LX motor drive. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
On Dec 22, 2010, at 3:41 AM, Cotty wrote: On the other hand, is it worth the aggravation for $50? For me, I would simply not shop with any company displaying such bad business practices. Thanks, Cotty for the very clear summation and comment. As Bob said, I don't have a leg to stand on. I wonder if that's really how Adorama want's to be thought of. I think I've got a ball head, at a good price, from Adorama. It's the last thing I'll have from them -- unless it comes as a gift. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
On Dec 22, 2010, at 3:56 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: What you are seeing is vestigial New York Photo/Video mail-order attitudes. Thirty five years ago, you had to be very careful ordering from NY Photo stores, even BH. Since then, following BH's lead in a change in practices, most have straightened out about 95%. I have frightening memories of conversations with the phone sales reps from Beach, Adorama, and Abes of Maine, who, if you had a disagreement with the difference between what they were offering and what was standard in the industry, would reiterate their company line, then hang up on you. It sometimes took a few days and several salesperson hours before you would go through with the sale, after they allowed as to how you really had seen through their bullshit and let common sense complete the sale. One of their ploys was to pull items out of a factory packed kit camera. When you complained that it was missing, they told you it wasn't part of what they sold you,. The price to buy it separately ended up costing you more than the same complete kit at any of the other stores. Phone shopping was a joy in the 60s and 70s! Thanks, Joseph. My standard has been LL Bean. And since joining PDML I must say I've had very good experiences with sellers on eBay, for which I imagine eBay itself deserves some credit. What seems to be Adorama's practice, and not an error, as I assumed when I first wrote to customer service, has come as a bit of a shock. Since I'm mainly a used equipment buyer, sure glad KEH isn't that way. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
On Dec 22, 2010, at 4:16 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: it could simply be some web developers sloppiness I assumed that might be the case at first -- that and the possibility that the customer service agent may not have understood that that might be the case -- but their persistence in their legalistic characterization of the offer, and the fact that it stands unclarified, leads me to conclude otherwise -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
On Dec 22, 2010, at 3:41 AM, Cotty wrote: On the other hand, is it worth the aggravation for $50? For me, I would simply not shop with any company displaying such bad business practices. Thanks, Cotty for the very clear summation and comment. As Bob said, I don't have a leg to stand on. I wonder if that's really how Adorama want's to be thought of. I think I've got a ball head, at a good price, from Adorama. It's the last thing I'll have from them -- unless it comes as a gift. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
On Dec 22, 2010, at 6:53 AM, paul stenquist wrote: I think you're right. The page should have said when purchased with tripod. You have little recourse other than to keep pointing that out. Talking to a higher level person might help. Any other course of action isn't worth your time. Thanks, Paul. I think I got a decent head at a decent price. I can certainly live with that. That it *appears* to be deception -- I leave open the possibility that the customer service rep is not representing the company very well -- leaves a bad taste in my mouth, though. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
On Dec 22, 2010, at 4:11 AM, Derby Chang wrote: My experiences with Adorama have been consistently positive (second only to KEH). Popped a used Leitz 90mm Elmarit in my cart the other night. Not that I need another 90, but I don't have a chrome version. Going price was a reasonable $499. This morning, I got an email saying there was a mistake in the listing, and the version was actually the earlier E39 not E46. Offered it to me for 300 bucks. I actually quite like the look of the vulcanite retro-ness, so I snapped it up. Thanks, Derby. Glad to hear that my experience *may not* be indicative of their practice after all. What I spend is small change, but this experience has left a bad taste in my mouth, and I'll be looking for my deals elsewhere, at least for a while. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
I should note for the record that I've had many successful transactions with Adorama and have no reason to be upset with them over any of them. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
On 12/22/2010 8:11 AM, Eric Weir wrote: Thanks, Boris. You're absolutely right. I let my generally benign view of retailers get the best of me. And as I said, I might eventually have proceeded with the transaction, just not at that time, under that offer. It happens to me all too often as well, though somewhat less often as I grow up. Perhaps the lesson I should take from this is retailers, and business in general, are just not to be trusted: Read the fine print. Carefully. And they say the market doesn't need to be regulated? That we should just trust them? Regulated market (believe me, I lived there for 20 years) does not immediately implies total honesty, you know... As for shouting angrily, with the exception of following up on the suggestion that I send an email to the customer advocate at Adorama, I think I've gotten about what I can expect from it. Shouting angrily would be local practice. I have to say my dealings with individuals on eBay have been more principled than this. IMO eBay is extremely dangerous, so don't let several positive transactions fool you into false sense of security. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG VOTING
2010/12/22 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: It begs to notice here that bronchitis has nothing to do with the lower parts of human body. At least usually. Depends on how which way your cough goes. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Loose moose
2010/12/22 Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: mike wilson wrote: More of an elk man, myself. On 21/12/2010, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: it's not your moose is it? Oh, deer ! Oh lord, bear with us. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Loose moose
Don't let the Ursines horn in on this discussion Dan On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 9:38 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/12/22 Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: mike wilson wrote: More of an elk man, myself. On 21/12/2010, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: it's not your moose is it? Oh, deer ! Oh lord, bear with us. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
On Dec 22, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: As for shouting angrily, with the exception of following up on the suggestion that I send an email to the customer advocate at Adorama, I think I've gotten about what I can expect from it. I don't shout. But at the conclusion of the deal, I snail mail a letter to the manager (or whatever) to let them know I won't be back and why. It may not matter to them, but if I just leave, they can't know that at least one of their customers considers that they have a problem. I have to say my dealings with individuals on eBay have been more principled than this. Keep trying; ebay can surely bite you, too. In less than fifty transactions I've been hosed three times (broken or grossly misrepresented items) and ebay was no help. Speaking of which, anyone interested in a motor drive for a Spottie? At least, I think that's what it is. It was represented as an LX motor drive. Thanks for the heads up, on both counts, Doug. Recently I had a seller on eBay offer to take back an item that disappointed me where the reason for the disappointment was my ignorance about the product. I appreciated his offer but took responsibility for my oversight. Besides, I love holding the item in my hand even though it doesn't work. The item was a Weston Master II light meter. I've decided to put down the bucks for an up-to-date Sekonic L398A. Not as beautiful as the Weston but it's still being manufactured. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Different by Pentax
Jack - Most web browsers have a command in the File Menu that says Send Link or something similar. If you're using an e-mail client like Thunderbird or Outlook or Outlook Express, clicking on that command will open a window with the link already pasted into it, ready to send to your friends. Or just follow Cotty's instructions and copy the URL and paste it into your e-mail message. -p On 12/22/2010 2:20 AM, Cotty wrote: On 21/12/10, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: What I'd like to do is email a link to various folks. Don't think I care enough to provide my email address to facebook. I wondered if there might be another way. What's wrong with copying the URL of the resulting video and pasting that in the body of an email? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG VOTING
It may be a colossal waste of time for you, and it might not matter much as far as what gets in the gallery, but I find it productive. I am not certainly as skilled as most on this list or most who have images on the PPG. I review and vote on submissions for what I can learn. I try to ask myself, as to each image, What is good about this photograph; what is the photographer trying to convey? Did he or she succeed? What are the weaknesses in this image? Why is this image better than mine (if that is the case)? I also regularly look at the recently accepted images, to see what others have done, and try to determine what about those images makes them better than my rejected images. It seems to have worked for me, as I now have fewer rejects and more accepted images, and my Pentax Gallery is up to 46. That certainly doesn't mean that I am a better photographer, just that I can predict better what might get accepted. Also, when someone sees one of my images and asks to see more, I can give them the link to my Pentax Gallery, knowing that the images there probably appeal to a wide variety of tastes, and not just my idiosyncratic photographic vision. Dan On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 6:50 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 21, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I'm surprised anyone cares. Voting is a colossal waste of time. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
On Dec 22, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Perhaps the lesson I should take from this is retailers, and business in general, are just not to be trusted: Read the fine print. Carefully. And they say the market doesn't need to be regulated? That we should just trust them? Regulated market (believe me, I lived there for 20 years) does not immediately implies total honesty, you know... Oh, for sure. But -- at least in theory; and in some places more in practice than others -- there is recourse. As for shouting angrily, with the exception of following up on the suggestion that I send an email to the customer advocate at Adorama, I think I've gotten about what I can expect from it. Shouting angrily would be local practice. I'm a Midwesterner, living in the South with a deep appreciation for the South's we go along to get along philosophy, who spent a year living and working in Manhattan in the mid 90's. I loved the City, but I was never able to convince my colleagues that there was another way to deal with conflict, that a big stick wasn't always necessarily the best way. I have to say my dealings with individuals on eBay have been more principled than this. IMO eBay is extremely dangerous, so don't let several positive transactions fool you into false sense of security. I've been cautioned on that point already, but thanks for seconding it. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Cyclocommuter
Interesting character, and interesting image, Frank. Dan On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 6:34 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/12/cyclocommuter.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
Eric, I live about a 25 minute walk from Adorama... I usually shop at BH but Adorama had the V500 Nick was raving about at the best price - I called and one of the sales guys got one from the warehouse for me in one day and put it aside in the store for me.. When I returned the RS1000 (however some of the other Pentax point andd shoots may or may not be, don't buy this one!) the young lady who was taking it back claimed there was a scratch on the LCD screen - I had had the camera for all of 2 hours. I couldnt see it and she though spec of dirt so was rubbing it with a cleaning cloth (which, infact, could have made the scratch) I pitched a bit of a bitch . I got my money back fairly easily. Initially , when I was asked why I was returning it I simply said because it's a piece of crap Bottom line, the experience, overall, in the store was ultimately fine. Maybe they are kinder to L O Ls ann Eric Weir wrote: On Dec 22, 2010, at 3:56 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: What you are seeing is vestigial New York Photo/Video mail-order attitudes. Thirty five years ago, you had to be very careful ordering from NY Photo stores, even BH. Since then, following BH's lead in a change in practices, most have straightened out about 95%. I have frightening memories of conversations with the phone sales reps from Beach, Adorama, and Abes of Maine, who, if you had a disagreement with the difference between what they were offering and what was standard in the industry, would reiterate their company line, then hang up on you. It sometimes took a few days and several salesperson hours before you would go through with the sale, after they allowed as to how you really had seen through their bullshit and let common sense complete the sale. One of their ploys was to pull items out of a factory packed kit camera. When you complained that it was missing, they told you it wasn't part of what they sold you,. The price to buy it separately ended up costing you more than the same complete kit at any of the other stores. Phone shopping was a joy in the 60s and 70s! Thanks, Joseph. My standard has been LL Bean. And since joining PDML I must say I've had very good experiences with sellers on eBay, for which I imagine eBay itself deserves some credit. What seems to be Adorama's practice, and not an error, as I assumed when I first wrote to customer service, has come as a bit of a shock. Since I'm mainly a used equipment buyer, sure glad KEH isn't that way. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Gangster Car
The rumble seat is for bodies, wrapped in carpet, on their way to the Meadowlands. If youse wuz from Joisey, youse would know dat. Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:34 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I thought gangsters would have preferred dark colored saloons, less conspicuous better cover for the hardware. A rumble seat is for flappers... On 12/18/2010 1:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=41 Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are Always Welcome. Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
On Dec 22, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Eric, I live about a 25 minute walk from Adorama... I usually shop at BH but Adorama had the V500 Nick was raving about at the best price - I called and one of the sales guys got one from the warehouse for me in one day and put it aside in the store for me.. When I returned the RS1000 (however some of the other Pentax point andd shoots may or may not be, don't buy this one!) the young lady who was taking it back claimed there was a scratch on the LCD screen - I had had the camera for all of 2 hours. I couldnt see it and she though spec of dirt so was rubbing it with a cleaning cloth (which, infact, could have made the scratch) I pitched a bit of a bitch . I got my money back fairly easily. Initially , when I was asked why I was returning it I simply said because it's a piece of crap Bottom line, the experience, overall, in the store was ultimately fine. Maybe they are kinder to L O Ls ann 'Tis a good thing they don't know the real Ann! They would have known that you only bought the camera to take shots of one scrabble tournament, fully intending to return it all along. And then it got scratched during the horseplay and drunken revelry after the tournament, so there was no way you would keep it, no matter how much you had come to love the intuitive ergonomics of this fine image processor . . . stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Relaxing in the Country
Well, that is true -- sort of. They are having a picnic, although in this context it is call a tailgate party, next to their car. They are inside the race track, and the steeplechase horses go by just a few yards from where they are sitting. There are, however, hundreds of similar groups having their little parties all along the rails inside the track, along the rails outside the track, and on the hill overlooking the track. This may give you an idea of the context: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11842750 Dan -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, for uninitiated person like me, it looks like they are having a picnic and there is whole sports arena around them full of spectators. I am not sure you were aiming at that, but it is pretty funny anyway. On 12/21/2010 5:25 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=44 Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions and Abuse are all Welcome -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)
Interesting to know about ther options than tmax. Thank you AdAm. Le vendredi 10 décembre 2010, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca a écrit : Tmax Developer is excellent, but just about the most expensive option. I use it solely for pushing film as it's also just about the best for maintaining shadow detail when pushing. I most of my developing with D-76 or Rodinal, with the latter used solely for slow films and D-76 for any medium speed films. -Adam On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:24 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: TMax developer works well, and it has a long shelf life. I shot a roll of BW in my Leica a few months ago and processed it with some TMax that's been sitting on the shelf for about seven years. No problems. At normal development times, the negative density was spot on. When I was shooting a lot of BW, I preferred D-76 mixed 1:1 with water -- a somewhat gentle soup that yielded a nice range of midtones-- but it involved a lot of work, since D-76 is only sold as a mix-it-yourself powder. Paul On Dec 9, 2010, at 7:54 AM, Thibouille wrote: I bought Tmax because that's what my reseller had in stock. Heard a couple time Tmax is the best developper, ever. Dunno what to think about that but at least it is a good one, which is OK for me. 2010/12/8 Gasha cir...@konts.lv: Welcome to the club!!! I discovered these nice things about 5 years ago. So far used only Rodinal, but i hope to try also Ilfosol. Gasha Thibouille wrote: Just understood how cheaper it was to process film in house. Got material from my brother, just needed the chemical part. Got developper + fixer for 30 Euros, dunno if it is about a right price or not... I can process 40 35mm films with that, compared to 6 euros per film when dropped to my reseller. Ouch ! BTW, just found out there're a couple nice apps helping, at least on iPhone. The Massive Dev Chart, ( http://www.digitaltruth.com ) is available with complete database of developper/film times, stopwatch etc. Very impressive. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Relaxing in the Country
We have polo matches, for charity and otherwise, and the crowds are smaller but more affluent. At the steeplechase races, however, one sees quite a bit of silver, crystal and fine wine. We were in the beer and chicken wings section. G Yes, I got a few image of the horses, but they are not very sharp: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11855896 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11855895 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11855894 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11842744 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11842741 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11842739 On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Dan: Doesn't seem to be as posh an outing as polo. Did you get any shots of the horses? Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 9:25 AM Subject: PESO: Relaxing in the Country http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=44 Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions and Abuse are all Welcome -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Drum Major
Thanks, Christine! Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: That's a Drum major. Well seen, Daniel, course how could you miss him :-). Nice picture. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:49 PM Subject: PESO: The Drum Major http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=43 Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are Welcome as Usual -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Old Friend ... the FA*24
Boris, Just a few side comments: While I mostly agree with your statement, - most of us have a favorite tool (lens, screwdriver, kitchen knife, tea pot, etc.) that we enjoy using. And that's what, in my understanding, Andrew is trying to share with us. Now, regarding that article you quote. While the author has some good points, he has some fallacies as well. E.g. the way he argues that MF cameras are better: Final Thoughts on Medium Format Some pundits criticize Medium Format users as showoffs, ... snip The mere fact that so many professionals work with MF is palpable proof that there is a significant difference in image quality. These people are not dumb and they are not blind. Neither are their clients or the intermediaries like art directors. To follow his analogies, - just because so many drivers are driving SUVs (in the US) or huge pickup trucks (in Texas), - it doesn't mean that they are more suitable for these people's needs. (Some 80-90% of the off-road SUVs never went off-road, etc..) In most cases, it's a fashion, a statement, hence a show-off. ... And many words are said about image cars - the clients of large banks and big financial companies, - being the experts themselves, they approve the expertise of the CEOs in cars by choosing them for their business. There is a term (which excapes me at the moment) that labels this sort of a trick (or error) in logical reasoning, when the cause and the consequence are mixed together. (C.f. Playing basketball makes people taller. Look at the NBA players - they are all tall, Leaving in Hollywood/Beverly Hills, CA make people more beautiful. Look at the people who live there: they are all beautiful (Hollywood actors).) I don't mean to argue about the MFs, I just indicate one of the fallacies that appear in the article (in the way he argues his points). Since the article is not just about making the points, but largely - about discussing these points in detail and making colorful arguments via analogies, once I noticed the sophism (possibly unintentional) I have very mixed impression from the article. Igor On Dec 22, 2010, at 2:14 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: To support my point, here is a recently published article: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/thoughts_on_medium_format_cameras.shtml -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
setting up a new mac to an existing airport express
I'm sure this will be my last query, then I'll place the order. I have the Airport disk from when i bought the express in 2006ish. I have it password protected. I will assume that this disk will work with the new OS,with a possible update to the software, but what I'm curious about is, will it recognise the existing Apple net work i have or will i have to set it up as a separate account and password.. I'm also not sure what password i used when i set it up. Is there a way to check. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
Feisty, L O Ls ;) Jack, L O Mn --- On Wed, 12/22/10, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: Adorama To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 7:20 AM Eric, I live about a 25 minute walk from Adorama... I usually shop at BH but Adorama had the V500 Nick was raving about at the best price - I called and one of the sales guys got one from the warehouse for me in one day and put it aside in the store for me.. When I returned the RS1000 (however some of the other Pentax point andd shoots may or may not be, don't buy this one!) the young lady who was taking it back claimed there was a scratch on the LCD screen - I had had the camera for all of 2 hours. I couldnt see it and she though spec of dirt so was rubbing it with a cleaning cloth (which, infact, could have made the scratch) I pitched a bit of a bitch . I got my money back fairly easily. Initially , when I was asked why I was returning it I simply said because it's a piece of crap Bottom line, the experience, overall, in the store was ultimately fine. Maybe they are kinder to L O Ls ann Eric Weir wrote: On Dec 22, 2010, at 3:56 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: What you are seeing is vestigial New York Photo/Video mail-order attitudes. Thirty five years ago, you had to be very careful ordering from NY Photo stores, even BH. Since then, following BH's lead in a change in practices, most have straightened out about 95%. I have frightening memories of conversations with the phone sales reps from Beach, Adorama, and Abes of Maine, who, if you had a disagreement with the difference between what they were offering and what was standard in the industry, would reiterate their company line, then hang up on you. It sometimes took a few days and several salesperson hours before you would go through with the sale, after they allowed as to how you really had seen through their bullshit and let common sense complete the sale. One of their ploys was to pull items out of a factory packed kit camera. When you complained that it was missing, they told you it wasn't part of what they sold you,. The price to buy it separately ended up costing you more than the same complete kit at any of the other stores. Phone shopping was a joy in the 60s and 70s! Thanks, Joseph. My standard has been LL Bean. And since joining PDML I must say I've had very good experiences with sellers on eBay, for which I imagine eBay itself deserves some credit. What seems to be Adorama's practice, and not an error, as I assumed when I first wrote to customer service, has come as a bit of a shock. Since I'm mainly a used equipment buyer, sure glad KEH isn't that way. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: setting up a new mac to an existing airport express
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:03 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: I have the Airport disk from when i bought the express in 2006ish. I have it password protected. I will assume that this disk will work with the new OS,with a possible update to the software, but what I'm curious about is, will it recognise the existing Apple net work i have or will i have to set it up as a separate account and password.. I'm also not sure what password i used when i set it up. Is there a way to check. You can download the latest version of the Airport configuration software, which would probably be better than using the old disk: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL955 All of the network settings, including the password that you use to administer the network, are stored on the Airport Express. So your network should not be affected by changing computer. If you install the above software on the new computer, you can use it to change settings on the Airport, using the same password that you originally set up. If you've forgotten the password, you can reset it by following the procedure that begins on Page 30 of the manual: http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/AirPort_Express_Setup_Guide.pdf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Loose moose
That would be a boar. On 22/12/2010, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Don't let the Ursines horn in on this discussion Dan On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 9:38 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/12/22 Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: mike wilson wrote: More of an elk man, myself. On 21/12/2010, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: it's not your moose is it? Oh, deer ! Oh lord, bear with us. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
I've shopped at BH since they were in a loft on 17th Street in the 1970s. Never had any problems. To the best of my knowledge, they've always had a very good reputation. Ditto 47th Street Photo in the '80s. The only really bad camera stores were the mail order joints with Brooklyn addresses that didn't even have a real store, and the tourist-trap camera stores in midtown. Paul On Dec 22, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Feisty, L O Ls ;) Jack, L O Mn --- On Wed, 12/22/10, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: Adorama To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 7:20 AM Eric, I live about a 25 minute walk from Adorama... I usually shop at BH but Adorama had the V500 Nick was raving about at the best price - I called and one of the sales guys got one from the warehouse for me in one day and put it aside in the store for me.. When I returned the RS1000 (however some of the other Pentax point andd shoots may or may not be, don't buy this one!) the young lady who was taking it back claimed there was a scratch on the LCD screen - I had had the camera for all of 2 hours. I couldnt see it and she though spec of dirt so was rubbing it with a cleaning cloth (which, infact, could have made the scratch) I pitched a bit of a bitch . I got my money back fairly easily. Initially , when I was asked why I was returning it I simply said because it's a piece of crap Bottom line, the experience, overall, in the store was ultimately fine. Maybe they are kinder to L O Ls ann Eric Weir wrote: On Dec 22, 2010, at 3:56 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: What you are seeing is vestigial New York Photo/Video mail-order attitudes. Thirty five years ago, you had to be very careful ordering from NY Photo stores, even BH. Since then, following BH's lead in a change in practices, most have straightened out about 95%. I have frightening memories of conversations with the phone sales reps from Beach, Adorama, and Abes of Maine, who, if you had a disagreement with the difference between what they were offering and what was standard in the industry, would reiterate their company line, then hang up on you. It sometimes took a few days and several salesperson hours before you would go through with the sale, after they allowed as to how you really had seen through their bullshit and let common sense complete the sale. One of their ploys was to pull items out of a factory packed kit camera. When you complained that it was missing, they told you it wasn't part of what they sold you,. The price to buy it separately ended up costing you more than the same complete kit at any of the other stores. Phone shopping was a joy in the 60s and 70s! Thanks, Joseph. My standard has been LL Bean. And since joining PDML I must say I've had very good experiences with sellers on eBay, for which I imagine eBay itself deserves some credit. What seems to be Adorama's practice, and not an error, as I assumed when I first wrote to customer service, has come as a bit of a shock. Since I'm mainly a used equipment buyer, sure glad KEH isn't that way. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: setting up a new mac to an existing airport express
Thanks Matthew. Dave On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:03 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: I have the Airport disk from when i bought the express in 2006ish. I have it password protected. I will assume that this disk will work with the new OS,with a possible update to the software, but what I'm curious about is, will it recognise the existing Apple net work i have or will i have to set it up as a separate account and password.. I'm also not sure what password i used when i set it up. Is there a way to check. You can download the latest version of the Airport configuration software, which would probably be better than using the old disk: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL955 All of the network settings, including the password that you use to administer the network, are stored on the Airport Express. So your network should not be affected by changing computer. If you install the above software on the new computer, you can use it to change settings on the Airport, using the same password that you originally set up. If you've forgotten the password, you can reset it by following the procedure that begins on Page 30 of the manual: http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/AirPort_Express_Setup_Guide.pdf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Cyclocommuter
Great timing, and great posture Dave On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 6:34 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/12/cyclocommuter.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Loose moose
You guys... :-) I'm simply impalaed by your wit. Jostein 2010/12/22 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: That would be a boar. On 22/12/2010, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Don't let the Ursines horn in on this discussion Dan On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 9:38 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/12/22 Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: mike wilson wrote: More of an elk man, myself. On 21/12/2010, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: it's not your moose is it? Oh, deer ! Oh lord, bear with us. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG VOTING
2010/12/22 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: It seems to have worked for me, as I now have fewer rejects and more accepted images, and my Pentax Gallery is up to 46. That certainly doesn't mean that I am a better photographer, just that I can predict better what might get accepted. Also, when someone sees one of my images and asks to see more, I can give them the link to my Pentax Gallery, knowing that the images there probably appeal to a wide variety of tastes, and not just my idiosyncratic photographic vision. Well said, Dan! I also find it interesting to then present the same images to a totally different group of photographers. It's amazing how much groupthink there is in viewing photographs. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Loose moose
That depends on whose ox is gored. Dan On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:31 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: That would be a boar. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: My Blackberry is not Working
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG VOTING
The totally different group is often a more artistic group and therefore, more appreciative of my re-submitted stuff. ;)) Jack --- On Wed, 12/22/10, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PPG VOTING To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 9:14 AM 2010/12/22 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: It seems to have worked for me, as I now have fewer rejects and more accepted images, and my Pentax Gallery is up to 46. That certainly doesn't mean that I am a better photographer, just that I can predict better what might get accepted. Also, when someone sees one of my images and asks to see more, I can give them the link to my Pentax Gallery, knowing that the images there probably appeal to a wide variety of tastes, and not just my idiosyncratic photographic vision. Well said, Dan! I also find it interesting to then present the same images to a totally different group of photographers. It's amazing how much groupthink there is in viewing photographs. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO well, that was silly
On Dec 22, 2010, at 5:46 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: At first I thought you were talking about your moon shot... then I see you are talking about the cow it isn't the COLOR of the sky ... but the effect I saw is corrected with the blue sky. I jsut don't know what the techy term is for the phenomenon that I've only seen when I have overphotoshopped something trying to fix it. something, I imagine, could occur in camera as well. So the fiddling to bring the clouds out more is probably the culpert. As I said, that wasn't one of the shots that I fiddled with the clouds. That's how they almost always look in night shots around a city. All I did with the second shot was change the color balance to account for the sodium lights. I'm buried under Christmas at the moment... at some point I can do a before and aftert hign to show you what I mean, if someone else hasn't noted the samething and given it is proper name :-) I look forward to seeing that when you have time, because I'm curious about what you mean. In the mean time, do enjoy your holidays. The _color_ behind the silhouette was likeable.. ann -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Old Friend ... the FA*24
Favorite lenses, especially primes, are these days an indulgence allowed mostly to the artistic enthusiast. If you NEED to get a shot for a news paper or of the family album, a zoom is almost always a better choice. But if you are going to just wander about taking shots, then your favorite prime is also your muse. If I were a mainly zoom lens guy, I'd be shooting Nikon. I stay with pentax because of the small bodies and affordable primes. Zooms are the tool of choice for Disneyworld. This is certainly not true of everyone, but it's absolutely true for me. On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Andrew Allen andrewdall...@gmail.com wrote: Fell in love with this little silver bullet the first time it touched my K20D a few years ago ... can't get enough of the focal length especially; it's everything the FA35/2 on film is/was. Amazing color rendering and contrast, not all that large, fast, and just plain fun to shoot with (I typically leave the hood at home; it's my only gripe). So who else is shooting with this old 'relic'? There seems to be lots of clamoring for an updated version of this focal length. Here is my gallery with the lens: www.photobucket.com/PentaxFA24 And one of my fave shots with the lens: http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc130/AMMouse/Pentax%20K100D%20Super/Pentax%20FA24/PK717266a1.jpg Any thoughts? -- Andrew Allen Freelance Photographer and Writer www.andrewallenphoto.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: My Blackberry is not Working
Snicker. Very good. On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama Update
On Dec 22, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Eric Weir wrote: I think I got a decent head at a decent price. I can certainly live with that. That it *appears* to be deception -- I leave open the possibility that the customer service rep is not representing the company very well -- leaves a bad taste in my mouth, though. After my last post here I received an email from a company representative, Helen Oster, who had been suggested to me in one of the early responses. After looking into the issue she reported that there *was* a bug in the way rebates were being written up -- perhaps they thought they could turn it over to a machine? -- and offered me a $50 store credit by way of apology. That was perfectly agreeable to me, as the price of the head without the rebate was reasonable and within my budget, and what I anticipated to pay before discovering their buggy offer. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
On Dec 22, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Bottom line, the experience, overall, in the store was ultimately fine. Thanks, Ann. As you will see in my update of the issue, it's turned out that way in this case, too -- assuming they find a way to help their customer service reps respond to customer concerns more constructively than this one did to mine. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Adorama Update
After my last post here I received an email from a company representative, Helen Oster, who had been suggested to me in one of the early responses. After looking into the issue she reported that there *was* a bug in the way rebates were being written up -- perhaps they thought they could turn it over to a machine? -- and offered me a $50 store credit by way of apology. That was perfectly agreeable to me, as the price of the head without the rebate was reasonable and within my budget, and what I anticipated to pay before discovering their buggy offer. that's a good result and well handled by the store, eventually. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso: Living at 925 Valley Pike
OK, try this: http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=viewcurrent=birdehouse2_2.jpg On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: I agree with Paul about a tighter crop. I like the diagonal shadows in the back, but the stuff in the upper left corner is a bit distracting. Is this a posh neighborhood for the birds. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:32 PM Subject: Re: peso: Living at 925 Valley Pike Fun stuff.Every bird should have an address! I think I would like this more cropped a lot tighter and perhaps as a vertical. Paul On Dec 21, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=viewcurrent=birdhouse.jpg -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso: Living at 925 Valley Pike
OK, try this: http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=viewcurrent=birdehouse2_2.jpg On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: I agree with Paul about a tighter crop. I like the diagonal shadows in the back, but the stuff in the upper left corner is a bit distracting. Is this a posh neighborhood for the birds. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:32 PM Subject: Re: peso: Living at 925 Valley Pike Fun stuff.Every bird should have an address! I think I would like this more cropped a lot tighter and perhaps as a vertical. Paul On Dec 21, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=viewcurrent=birdhouse.jpg -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama Update
Common sense, or at least business sense, prevails. Good fight, do the victory dance. On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Dec 22, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Eric Weir wrote: I think I got a decent head at a decent price. I can certainly live with that. That it *appears* to be deception -- I leave open the possibility that the customer service rep is not representing the company very well -- leaves a bad taste in my mouth, though. After my last post here I received an email from a company representative, Helen Oster, who had been suggested to me in one of the early responses. After looking into the issue she reported that there *was* a bug in the way rebates were being written up -- perhaps they thought they could turn it over to a machine? -- and offered me a $50 store credit by way of apology. That was perfectly agreeable to me, as the price of the head without the rebate was reasonable and within my budget, and what I anticipated to pay before discovering their buggy offer. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso: Living at 925 Valley Pike
I much prefer this crop. Paul On Dec 22, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: OK, try this: http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=viewcurrent=birdehouse2_2.jpg On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: I agree with Paul about a tighter crop. I like the diagonal shadows in the back, but the stuff in the upper left corner is a bit distracting. Is this a posh neighborhood for the birds. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:32 PM Subject: Re: peso: Living at 925 Valley Pike Fun stuff.Every bird should have an address! I think I would like this more cropped a lot tighter and perhaps as a vertical. Paul On Dec 21, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=viewcurrent=birdhouse.jpg -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VESO 2010 - lunar eclipse - GDG
Thanks. I missed to as well. On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: Here's a little video composite showing the last 15-20 minutes or so of the eclipse from my patio: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100204 (In testing with different browsers, FireFox played it immediately. Safari had to have its caches cleared, quit and restart, then it played it properly.) The photographs were made with the Olympus E-5 fitted with EC14 1.4x teleconverter and adapted Pentax SMC Takumar 135mm f/3.5 lens (a net 190mm f/4.9 telephoto). The only processing done to the individual images was to crop them to a small square and roughly center the moon, then they were input into iMovie and output as an MPEG file with about a 30 second duration. During the course of taking the photos, I manipulated ISO setting, EV compensation and focus as the clouds above swirled in and out, trying to keep a viable image capture going. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Envisioning Larry with a Hugema (Was: GESO well, that was silly)
This is how Larry would probably look with the appropriate lens, shooting the Moon (or the Sun?) without his not really up to the task tripod: http://juzaphoto.com/shared_files/bio/juza_200-500.jpg :-) that's a helluva prescription... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Gangster Car
The rumble seat is for bodies, wrapped in carpet, on their way to the Meadowlands. If youse wuz from Joisey, youse would know dat. Gangster film recommendation: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1235166/ If you don't mind English subtitles. In my humble one it's up there with Godfather II and Goodfellas. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VESO 2010 - lunar eclipse - GDG
Make that missed it as well. Truly, my typing is a diminishing resource. On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. I missed to as well. On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: Here's a little video composite showing the last 15-20 minutes or so of the eclipse from my patio: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100204 (In testing with different browsers, FireFox played it immediately. Safari had to have its caches cleared, quit and restart, then it played it properly.) The photographs were made with the Olympus E-5 fitted with EC14 1.4x teleconverter and adapted Pentax SMC Takumar 135mm f/3.5 lens (a net 190mm f/4.9 telephoto). The only processing done to the individual images was to crop them to a small square and roughly center the moon, then they were input into iMovie and output as an MPEG file with about a 30 second duration. During the course of taking the photos, I manipulated ISO setting, EV compensation and focus as the clouds above swirled in and out, trying to keep a viable image capture going. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Envisioning Larry with a Hugema (Was: GESO well, that was silly)
Oh. Do they have that in micro four thirds mount? On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: This is how Larry would probably look with the appropriate lens, shooting the Moon (or the Sun?) without his not really up to the task tripod: http://juzaphoto.com/shared_files/bio/juza_200-500.jpg :-) that's a helluva prescription... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama
On 2010-12-22 01:28 , Bob W wrote: I don't think you have a leg to stand on, but I think they're being stupid in not making it clear up front that you have to buy the tripod to get the rebate. As it stands theyre probably annoying a few potential buyers, which can never be good business. my thoughts exactly; what you are seeing is a fairly common usability problem when there are special terms to a deal -- these terms are usually not laid out in full until you get to the fine print, so you should always get to the fine print (i often review terms of service, etc. on sales websites to to make sure i understand return policies); note there is also a claim of free shipping, but there is fine print for that too, though it is only one click away; i think there should be something like (see rebate form for complete terms) on the first page, and probably also a direct link to the rebate form there my general position is that rebates suck; i endeavor to ignore the small rebates and only consider large rebate deals with extreme care -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adorama Update
On Dec 22, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Common sense It works. Stick to the facts. Allow for misunderstanding, on your part as well as the other party's. Mostly it will work out. Unfortunately, many of our politicians seem to work on the opposite principle. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
