Re: The Camera Store reviews the K-P

[Zos Xavius]

1. High ISO is at least 1 stop better than the K-3. Probably more.
2. Movie mode is vastly improved with the return of sensor based
stabilization. It also has much less noise in movie mode. Also the
bitrate has been increased finally. I've seen samples and it was
vastly better than the K-3 ever was.
3. Battery life is about 30% less than the K-3. Not a problem if you
use a grip really or can manage to change a battery every 4-500 shots.
I know that's a huge burden, but I think most people can manage.

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 2:53 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> The ergonomics were obviously worse than the K-7/5/3 just looking at it.
> The shutter button placement looks awkward.  The front dial placement looks
> awkward.
>
> The  body has been made shorter without actually changing the real footprint
> of the camera.  I love the ascetic of the more pointed pentaprism on older
> film cameras, but the Super Programesque, LX, (with hot shoe), like
> pentaprism of the K-7/5/3 looks better on the thicker body required by
> stuffing all the electronics into a camera.
>
> The small grip, which is all you ever see in promotional shots, reminds me
> of the grip on the *ist-D which didn't seem really uncomfortable until I
> held a Ds.
>
> I never even thought of the rear dial placement, but you know with a *ist-D
> grip your thumb would fall on the secondary rear dial, which is where the
> *ist-D had it's dial, and all of the grips have that *ist-D look.
>
> I still have a *ist-D, it's got enough problems, after I beat on it for a
> while, that it wasn't worth selling, so it sits on a shelf all forlorn,  and
> it really is uncomfortable compared to holding a K-5.
>
> I expected the high ISO to be not much better than the K-3 because physics,
> and I expected movie mode to be not any better because Pentax.
>
> I expected battery life to be an issue.
>
> The things I erected to be better were.  But there isn't much that's
> actually better.
>
> It's like the bad old days of the *ist-D[x] endless variations on a theme,
> with no real improvement.  In fact if you owned a Ds/L all you needed was a
> firmware upgrade and you got 90% or more of the improvements that the Ds/L
> II, (just a bigger rear screen really), version gave you and the only real
> difference between a Ds and a DL was the pentamirror in the latter.   Except
> now we have an advanced camera, that "looks" like it might be a replacement
> for the K-3 in the Pentax product line but isn't.
>
> Maybe they did a rush job to try and take advantage of the success of the
> K-1 by putting most of a K-70 into a K-1 like body with a few improvements.
> It wouldn't be the first time.
>
>
>
> On 3/10/2017 1:49 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> Not sure what your biases are, but I think these guys do pretty good
>> reviews.
>> I knew nothing about the K-P before seeing this. Very odd to hear that
>> ergonomics is such a problem with this camera, when that has been one
>> of Pentax's strong suits, in the past. Good news for any future Pentax
>> cameras are the improved stabilization system and AF.
>>
>> It is going to be a long while before I upgrade from my K-3 II, even
>> when an option is available. It is more than enough camera for my
>> purposes on terra firma.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:34 PM, P. J. Alling
>>   wrote:
>>>
>>> Which reinforces all my biases so I'm posting a link to it here.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjSNou9cQq0
>>>
>>>
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Re: what is the connector for the Pentax K-5 USB cable?

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The K-3 also shares the same connector. FYI

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Re: D FA★ 85mm F1.4

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D = Digital

D-FA = Digital FA (full frame)

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Doesn't the D mean it's a cropped lens???
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:19 PM, Bill  wrote:
>
>> It looks like Ricoh is serious. Now they are planning a D FA★ 85mm F1.4.
>> Fun times.
>>
>> https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/cpplus-2017/d-fa-85mm-
>> f14-on-the-horizon.html
>>
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Re: Test - does this go through?

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Can't see it. ;)

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 12:42 PM, John  wrote:
> Just had a reply returned as 550-"JunkMail rejected apparently by
> http://spameatingmonkey.com/lookup/209.86.89.63
>
> The IP address appears to be one of Earthlink's mail servers.
>
> Thread was: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses.
>
>
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Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

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They stopped making new ones though. They brought over the 18-35 but
not the 50-100. So as they slowly phase out lenses they will
eventually make no pentax lenses at all. I like the bigma at least.

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 4:16 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> Sigma does make Pentax K mount lenses, but Sigma is going to make lenses
> they can sell.  Pentax has to convince Sigma the their user base will buy
> their lenses to make it worth their while. Seriously, remembering the
> Sig[nificant] Ma[lfunctions] period. I'm always skittish of buying a Sigma
> product.  The company has made great strides in putting those days behind
> them, but...
>
>
> On 2/21/2017 2:13 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> You know Sigma has the tooling/technology. I have three Sigma EX AF
>> lenses and they are all wonderful (50-500mm, 10-20mm, and 28mm f1.8).
>>
>> This announcement does not include a Pentax mount:
>>
>> http://www.newsshooter.com/2017/02/21/sigma-announces-four-new-lenses-including-the-full-frame-14mm-f1-8-dg-hsm-art/
>>
>>
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Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

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Resolution wise it looks fantastic. Better than the otus even. Is
resolution everything in portraits though? I find the focus rolloff
and bokeh a bit clinical but that's me. I just doesn't have enough
feels if you get what I mean. Its also really large and heavy. It
almost pains me to say, but I would rather have the 77ltd.

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote:
> Yes, Im hopelessly behind. If I were shooting a lot of studio portraits I 
> would want that.
>
> Paul via phone
>
>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The 85 art has already been released. Time to catch up. ;)
>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> Sigma hasn't announced an 85mm lens, at least not according to this article.
>>>
>>>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 3:04 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A bunch of people want an 85..
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Of the four new lenses Pentax already offers two of them, a 24-70/2.8 and 
>>>>> the 150-450 (which is faster than the Sigma 100-400). The 14mm and 135mm 
>>>>> would be nice additions, but perhaps Pentax is already planning to fill 
>>>>> that gap. I probably wouldn’t want the 14mm, because the Pentax 15-30 
>>>>> pretty much covers that off. The 135/ 1.8 would be nice perhaps.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That would be suicidal and here is why: plenty of pentax users are
>>>>>> leaving for canikon because they want the new sigma lenses. Pentax
>>>>>> would be utterly foolish to discourage 3rd party options on their
>>>>>> mount.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Ricoh probably doesn’t want Sigma to make lenses for Pentax cameras. 
>>>>>>> Pentax volume is small enough as it is. Why would they want to lose 
>>>>>>> some of the lens biz to a competitor?
>>>>>>>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 2:13 PM, Darren Addy <pixelsmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You know Sigma has the tooling/technology. I have three Sigma EX AF
>>>>>>>> lenses and they are all wonderful (50-500mm, 10-20mm, and 28mm f1.8).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This announcement does not include a Pentax mount:
>>>>>>>> http://www.newsshooter.com/2017/02/21/sigma-announces-four-new-lenses-including-the-full-frame-14mm-f1-8-dg-hsm-art/
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Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

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The 85 art has already been released. Time to catch up. ;)

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote:
> Sigma hasn't announced an 85mm lens, at least not according to this article.
>
>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 3:04 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> A bunch of people want an 85..
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> 
>> wrote:
>>> Of the four new lenses Pentax already offers two of them, a 24-70/2.8 and 
>>> the 150-450 (which is faster than the Sigma 100-400). The 14mm and 135mm 
>>> would be nice additions, but perhaps Pentax is already planning to fill 
>>> that gap. I probably wouldn’t want the 14mm, because the Pentax 15-30 
>>> pretty much covers that off. The 135/ 1.8 would be nice perhaps.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That would be suicidal and here is why: plenty of pentax users are
>>>> leaving for canikon because they want the new sigma lenses. Pentax
>>>> would be utterly foolish to discourage 3rd party options on their
>>>> mount.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Ricoh probably doesn’t want Sigma to make lenses for Pentax cameras. 
>>>>> Pentax volume is small enough as it is. Why would they want to lose some 
>>>>> of the lens biz to a competitor?
>>>>>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 2:13 PM, Darren Addy <pixelsmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You know Sigma has the tooling/technology. I have three Sigma EX AF
>>>>>> lenses and they are all wonderful (50-500mm, 10-20mm, and 28mm f1.8).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This announcement does not include a Pentax mount:
>>>>>> http://www.newsshooter.com/2017/02/21/sigma-announces-four-new-lenses-including-the-full-frame-14mm-f1-8-dg-hsm-art/
>>>>>>
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Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

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A bunch of people want an 85..

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Of the four new lenses Pentax already offers two of them, a 24-70/2.8 and the 
> 150-450 (which is faster than the Sigma 100-400). The 14mm and 135mm would be 
> nice additions, but perhaps Pentax is already planning to fill that gap. I 
> probably wouldn’t want the 14mm, because the Pentax 15-30 pretty much covers 
> that off. The 135/ 1.8 would be nice perhaps.
>
>
>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That would be suicidal and here is why: plenty of pentax users are
>> leaving for canikon because they want the new sigma lenses. Pentax
>> would be utterly foolish to discourage 3rd party options on their
>> mount.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> Ricoh probably doesn’t want Sigma to make lenses for Pentax cameras. Pentax 
>>> volume is small enough as it is. Why would they want to lose some of the 
>>> lens biz to a competitor?
>>>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 2:13 PM, Darren Addy <pixelsmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You know Sigma has the tooling/technology. I have three Sigma EX AF
>>>> lenses and they are all wonderful (50-500mm, 10-20mm, and 28mm f1.8).
>>>>
>>>> This announcement does not include a Pentax mount:
>>>> http://www.newsshooter.com/2017/02/21/sigma-announces-four-new-lenses-including-the-full-frame-14mm-f1-8-dg-hsm-art/
>>>>
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Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

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That would be suicidal and here is why: plenty of pentax users are
leaving for canikon because they want the new sigma lenses. Pentax
would be utterly foolish to discourage 3rd party options on their
mount.

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> Ricoh probably doesn’t want Sigma to make lenses for Pentax cameras. Pentax 
> volume is small enough as it is. Why would they want to lose some of the lens 
> biz to a competitor?
>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 2:13 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
>>
>> You know Sigma has the tooling/technology. I have three Sigma EX AF
>> lenses and they are all wonderful (50-500mm, 10-20mm, and 28mm f1.8).
>>
>> This announcement does not include a Pentax mount:
>> http://www.newsshooter.com/2017/02/21/sigma-announces-four-new-lenses-including-the-full-frame-14mm-f1-8-dg-hsm-art/
>>
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Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

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Why? Because pentax decided to make cameras that Sigma lenses do not
fit on anymore which cost sigma money to fix. I would say there is bad
blood. The small market share isn't likely enough to convince them
that kmount is worth their time.

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> You know Sigma has the tooling/technology. I have three Sigma EX AF
> lenses and they are all wonderful (50-500mm, 10-20mm, and 28mm f1.8).
>
> This announcement does not include a Pentax mount:
> http://www.newsshooter.com/2017/02/21/sigma-announces-four-new-lenses-including-the-full-frame-14mm-f1-8-dg-hsm-art/
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Re: What is the most automatic mode on a K-3 that will shoot raw

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P mode will probably do ok. Set the program line to MTF so it just
tries to pick the sharpest apertures. And yeah you have to pick an ISO
or set it to Auto. You can preset the ISO beforehand if the lights
going to be mostly the same. Also make sure you turn off back button
focusing and they should be good to go. Green mode will only give you
jpegs with basic settings. It can be useful though if you are giving
the camera to someone who just wants a point and shoot.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
> John wrote:
>>
>> On 2/8/2017 10:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>>
>>> I see to recall that green mode shoots only jpeg. If I wanted my
>>> housemate to be able to pick up my camera and get photos of the flood
>>> waters tomorrow, I could say Tav, f/2.8-4 1/60-1/100. Will P mode
>>> automatically pick a good ISO?
>>>
>>
>> I don't see anything in the manual that says "Green mode" shoots only
>> jpeg. If it's in there, I didn't find it.
>
>
> I am sure that I remember reading that, and trying it out. However that must
> have been on an older model because I just tried it and it seems to be in
> raw on both the K-3 and K-1.
>
>>
>> You could download the Operating Manual as a PDF & use it to guide you
>> while you tell your housemate how to set the various controls instead of
>> relying on us for second hand misinformation.
>
>
> As we can see from the above, your second hand disinformation is more
> accurate than my first hand disinformation.
>>
>>
>> http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/k-3.pdf
>
>
> You are making the assumption that I hadn't tried to RTFM. In my experience
> the manual aspires to uselessness. The index points to setting the auto iso
> limits, but not turning them on or off.  I tried searching the manual,
> several times, and wasn't able to find it, until I was able to find it and
> then I was. On some of those searches, I will admit that I couldn't see
> where auto iso was highlighted on the page.
>
> I was hoping that someone else had gone through this and could just say
> "simultaneously press the iso and the green buttons to put it into auto iso,
> but that only works in these modes", which would have saved me about 45
> minutes of trying to find the information.
>
>
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Re: PESO Another A 2X-S pic

[Zos Xavius]

The 2x looks acceptable frankly.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Much sharper and actually very nice. I think you had a little camera
> shake on the first shot.
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> 
> wrote:
>> A junko in the forsythia. Again, it’s the K-1, D FA 150-450 and the A2X-S 
>> converter, 900mm, ISO 1000, 1/250th, probably f8. I believe it’s cropped to 
>> about 30% of frame. I can get closer to these guys, but I shot from my deck 
>> to avoid having to stand in the snow. Lazy!
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18350530/junko
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Re: PESO Another A 2X-S pic

[Zos Xavius]

Much sharper and actually very nice. I think you had a little camera
shake on the first shot.

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> A junko in the forsythia. Again, it’s the K-1, D FA 150-450 and the A2X-S 
> converter, 900mm, ISO 1000, 1/250th, probably f8. I believe it’s cropped to 
> about 30% of frame. I can get closer to these guys, but I shot from my deck 
> to avoid having to stand in the snow. Lazy!
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Re: The K1 has been out for a while now

[Zos Xavius]

Don't give up hope. They are supposedly releasing a new K-3 styled
flag ship in 6 months. The KP is a fashion accessory that happens to
take really nice pictures.

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 9:38 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> No.  But I'm sure there's plenty of speculation.  Pentax Fora is a good
> place to look.  Sadly the choices made in the KP don't make me feel
> particularly hopeful about the future.
>
>
>
> On 1/31/2017 8:24 AM, Collin B wrote:
>>
>> (This is the computer industry, after all).
>> Any word on a successor or facelift?
>>
>>
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Re: ISO invariance

[Zos Xavius]

Your resulting exposure levels are not the same which is why you have
a difference in color. If you put them side by side in lightroom and
evened them out they should be identical. Interesting. I had no idea
the k-5 was also iso invariant.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> Ok.  I've done some experiments to test this whole ISO invariance
> subject, which some ascribe almost mythological healing powers to
> underexposed images.  I'll reveal one pair of experimental images
> after I have my methodology down.  Hence this post.  The results were
> so surprising, that it made me question my methodology.
>
> Here is what I did.
>
> 1. take an image with ISO 1600 properly exposed.  Use manual and set
> shutter and aperture for image result that takes up most of the
> histogram (avoid blowing highlights)
> 2. take a second image with same shutter and aperture but at ISO 100.
> I.e. 4 stops underexposed.
> 3. Import into lightroom, compensate +4 exposure on the underexposed
> ISO 100 image.
>
> My lightroom has a limit of +4, hence the selection of 100 and 1600
> for ISO values.
>
> Images should look roughly the same if this methodology is right?  Are
> the ISO values correct?  100 * 2^4 = 1600, or is this wrong?
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Re: Exposure compensation

[Zos Xavius]

Actually EV compensation affects manual mode by changing how the meter
reads out. So putting settings that "match the needle" in will reflect
your compensation amount. Also the green button will reset to the
program line with compensation if it is engaged.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> On 24/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I've been puzzled by this. How does it work? There are only three
>>variables--sensitivity, aperture, shutter speed. Doesn't it have to
>>adjust one of those? Then what's with a separate function?
>
> If you use your camera on fully manual settings (ISO, iris, shutter
> speed) then exposure compensation is not relevant.
>
> If you are using an automatic setting (eg program, aperture value,
> shutter value) then the suggested exposure by the camera may not appeal
> to you. Hence you can adjust the camera's 'thought' on what it thinks is
> the right exposure for your scene.
>
> Think of sitting on a bus. You paid your ticket and chose your seat,
> you've paid for your bag and all is good. It should be a perfect trip.
> But you decide that the driver is going too fast for your liking - he
> has a dial on his back that you can turn either way to make him slow
> down - or go faster!
>
> Of course, there may be any number of reasons why the camera's own
> thoughts on the exposure in hand isn't right. With me, it's usually
> because a scene is backlit and the subject is too dark. Turning the dial
> in the '+' direction overexposes what the camera thinks is right,
> allowing more light in, but in doing so my subject becomes better exposed.
>
> Hope this helps :-)
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Re: interesting comparison someone sent me

[Zos Xavius]

They make gloves that work with smart phones. I have a pair. It is
cumbersome but better than freezing.

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> Yeah. Ever pulled out a smartphone in the dead of winter when it's
> -15C with a -25C windchill and tried to use the touch screen? After
> you pull off your gloves and your fingers start to freeze you discover
> that dry skin fails to register.
>
> Give me buttons and dials.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:04 AM, John  wrote:
>> The touch screen is not a really big selling point for me since I hate
>> touch screens.
>>
>> On 1/24/2017 2:28 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>>
>>> It surprises me that the Canon does not have an articulating screen.
>>> Though it is a touch screen.
>>>
>>> http://cameradecision.com/compare/Pentax-K-1-vs-Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-IV
>>>
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Re: Pentax KP Pictures

[Zos Xavius]

This is a nice looking midrange camera. It isn't the k-3 replacement.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>>
>> Certainly has enough, probably customizable dials.
>
> check, see the setting U1, u2 ...
>>
>>
>> I don't care that some people think the top LCD has outlived it's
>> usefulness, I use it all the time.
>
>
> Likewise, I hate using the back screen to check my settings.
>>
>>
>> I think the placement of the shutter button especially with the addition
>> of optional deep hand grip is a step backward, so is the optional deep
>> hand grip, which limits the battery capacity, the body is still thick
>> pushing the mirror box way out front, might as well have a comfortable
>> integrated grip for the larger battery capacity.
>>
>> I never noticed it at the time, probably because I was used to it, but
>> with the full grip hand grip the LX shutter button is awkward compared
>> to the placement of the shutter button on the K-5.
>>
>> The battery looks like the same battery used in the K-50 so a step back
>> in power, making the optional battery grip much less of an option.
>
>
> D-li 109, same as in a whole bunch of cameras, since IIRC the K-r.  At least
> they aren't coming up with a new battery standard.  This camera seems to be
> optimized for small size.
>>
>>
>> The front dial placement seems to be a awkward as well.
>
>
> I think so too, especially if you'll be switching back and forth.
>>
>>
>> I expect that it will have some fantastic specifications seriously
>> nobbled by the power requirements of a too small power cell.
>
>
> It just means that you'll only get a few hundred frames per charge.
>>
>>
>> I wonder if I can get a good deal on a used K-3, though it doesn't look
>> like it. K-3s seem to be cold dead hands cameras.
>
>
> I'm sure you can.  A lot of people with K-3s moved, or are moving to, K-1s.
>
> I wonder what the
>
>  v
> ---
>  ^
> button on the upper left is.
>
> It has no GPS and no wifi, but it does have a flash.
>
> The WR lens implies that it is weather sealed.
>
> It seems as if they are abandoning the high end APS market and are going for
> a really nice low end APS DSLR.
>
>
>>
>>
>> On 1/24/2017 5:47 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
>>>
>>> These seem realistic. Certainly a 'bold' looking design:
>>>
>>> http://www.nokishita-camera.com/2017/01/pentax-kp_24.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
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>>>
>>> ++
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Re: Anyone looking for Zeiss Optics

[Zos Xavius]

Fair enough. :)

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Steve Cottrell <co...@seeingeye.tv> wrote:
> On 23/1/17, Zos Xavius, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Which is going to be worth more in 10 years? Plastic samyang lenses or
>>bulletproof metal and glass zeiss ZK glass? Zeiss is a good investment
>>no matter what.
>
> I agree.
>
> But I would point out that my Samyang 12/2 is not made of plastic.
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Re: Anyone looking for Zeiss Optics

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Which is going to be worth more in 10 years? Plastic samyang lenses or
bulletproof metal and glass zeiss ZK glass? Zeiss is a good investment
no matter what.

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Bipin Gupta  wrote:
> Sorry Godfrey for mystifying you.
>
> The last line is pretty clear "go ahead and buy a Zeiss Lens for $
> when you can buy
> similar or better ones for much less".
>
>
> Someone was expounding the Zeiss Lens for Pentax DSLRs. No doubt Zeiss
> make great
> lenses. But all I was saying is that you can buy just as good ones
> from non Zeiss sources
> at half the cost.
>
> I was also making the point that Germany & Zeiss are no longer world
> leaders in Lens design.
>
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Re: Pauls photos in the news

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An excellent read. I didn't know you wrote as well.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 7:17 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Thanks to all for the nice comments. I hadn't seen this myself. Fox has some 
> kind of arrangement with Hagerty and reposts articles from Hagerty's website.
>
> Paul via phone
>
>> On Jan 21, 2017, at 3:07 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
>>
>> Thumbs up, Paul!
>>
>>> On 21 Jan 2017 00:19, "Gonz"  wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2017/01/20/test-mule-that-
>>> helped-save-chevrolet-corvette.html
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Re: One more KP update, direct from Pentax :-)

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Does it tether? :)

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> https://www.pentaxmedical.com/pentax/en/95/1/Kp-Series-Video-Colonoscopes
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Re: My Spidey senses are tingling

[Zos Xavius]

The K-3 II is already discontinued. This should be a direct
replacement. I wouldn't worry too much about the naming conventions.
Pentax is weird.

On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Collin B  wrote:
> As the letter designated bodies are entirely hobbyist and the numbered
> bodies are prosumer bodies...
>
> First this ...
>
> I anticipate he KP will probably be a top-of-the-line hobbyist camera. Still
> good, but maybe not up to the ruggedness of the 5/3/1 series.  Could be Full
> Frame. Because they need a full-frame basic-featured body. Because people
> just want to take pictures. Maybe $999.
>
> Then {
> This
>
> That will leave room for a new K3 III. Anticipating a new body design that
> will improve on circuit size, allowing both GPS & popup flash.  But probably
> nothing significant otherwise. A tech step, not a tech leap.
>
> Or
>
> A K2 that makes 24Mp FF practical and inexpensive. That would fill in a
> market gap quite nicely. Perhaps $1199.
>
> }
>
> Ok, the tingling has stopped. Bye for now.
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Re: What can be gathered about the new KP.

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The K-3 is already pretty small to be honest. Its very close in size
to the KS-2 which was only a hair bigger than the Canon SL1 which
still holds the crown of smallest aps-c DSLR. Due to the sensor/board
construction I don't know how they could make it all that much thinner
to be honest. When you consider there is a sensor, an SR mechanism, a
circuit board directly behind, and then the LCD which also has a
protective layer over it. If I take my K-3 and set it next to my MZ-s
and line up the mounts the K-3 is about a half inch thicker than the
MZ-S. So the sensor and all the related stuff plus the rear screen is
fitting in a space 1/2 inch thick. I think the two bodies are pretty
close in size compared in my hand. The mz-s is actually a little
wider, but not nearly as tall as the K-3 because the k-3 has a huge
pentaprism. I use a grip with the k-3 though so that makes it feel a
lot larger and heavier. I would love to find a grip for my mz-s though
it does feel rather nice and small in the hand by itself with a prime.

The MX I have is about the smallest K-mount camera I own (the ME might
be about the same) but it also packs a lot less into the camera
compared to say an MZ-S.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:06 AM, P. J. Alling
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> It's described as a DSLR, so it's probably not mirrorless.
>
> It's probably not Full Frame.  The K-1 is less than a year old, and the
> current APS-C flagship the K-3[II] was introduced in 2014, and refreshed in
> 2015.  In DSLR product cycles it's Methuselah.
>
> So it's most likely a new Flagship APS-C DSLR.
>
> What I'd like to see is a slimmer camera.  Leica has just released the M10
> which packs it's electronics into a package about the same size as an M-7,
> (as an aside, notice how after dropping model numbers and having their user
> base and the commentariat supply them with unofficial ones, Leica brought
> them back).
>
> What I'm hoping is that RIcoh has decided to use the same improvements in
> technology to build an APS-C DSLR in roughly the same footprint of an LX.
> If they do that and manage to keep the same specifications as the K-3 half
> the arguments for a mirrorless camera lose a lot of their weight, (see what
> i did there, I'm so clever),  which speaking of the size and weight
> advantages of mirrorless has anyone actually compared a K-3II to a Panasonic
> GH5?   The only specification that some might take as an advantage is the
> GH5's weight,
>
> http://camerasize.com/compare/#698,619
>
> Finally I'd like to see a little less convergence.  It's nice to have a DSLR
> that can be used to make videos, however Pentax cameras have been going
> backwards in actually producing good video while larding up the UI with easy
> video access.   Why not do the opposite, give us the option to use SR sensor
> shift on videos, and put up with the noise on the built in microphone,
> (anybody serious is going to use an external mic anyway),  and do away with
> that silly red video record button and replace it with something useful,
> like say a joystick to pick AF sensors just like a lot of other serious
> still cameras have done,  plus actually offer an official replaceable VF
> screen that's actually good for manual focus?
>
> Then again Ricoh may just decide that no one's interested in a flagship
> APS-C camera anymore and just build entry/mid level APS-C bodies based on
> the convergence of the K-50 and K-S2 from now on. Personally I wouldn't be
> surprised, though it would sadden me.
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Re: What can be gathered about the new KP.

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The K-3 II sold fairly well and is now discontinued unofficially. This
will be a direct replacement. I wouldn't expect any major differences
from the K-3 II other than an updated AF block (from the K-1, which is
ironically physically the same as the K-3 II apparently), the K-70's
sensor and hopefully somewhat improved video. If they use the same
imaging processor as the K-70 then probably not, but I would
hope/imagine that the new flagship aps-c would have a new Prime
engine. I would imagine the body design will largely stay the same as
the K-3. It does have a new body though, I can at least confirm that
much.

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> It's described as a DSLR, so it's probably not mirrorless.
>
> It's probably not Full Frame.  The K-1 is less than a year old, and the
> current APS-C flagship the K-3[II] was introduced in 2014, and refreshed in
> 2015.  In DSLR product cycles it's Methuselah.
>
> So it's most likely a new Flagship APS-C DSLR.
>
> What I'd like to see is a slimmer camera.  Leica has just released the M10
> which packs it's electronics into a package about the same size as an M-7,
> (as an aside, notice how after dropping model numbers and having their user
> base and the commentariat supply them with unofficial ones, Leica brought
> them back).
>
> What I'm hoping is that RIcoh has decided to use the same improvements in
> technology to build an APS-C DSLR in roughly the same footprint of an LX.
> If they do that and manage to keep the same specifications as the K-3 half
> the arguments for a mirrorless camera lose a lot of their weight, (see what
> i did there, I'm so clever),  which speaking of the size and weight
> advantages of mirrorless has anyone actually compared a K-3II to a Panasonic
> GH5?   The only specification that some might take as an advantage is the
> GH5's weight,
>
> http://camerasize.com/compare/#698,619
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> (anybody serious is going to use an external mic anyway),  and do away with
> that silly red video record button and replace it with something useful,
> like say a joystick to pick AF sensors just like a lot of other serious
> still cameras have done,  plus actually offer an official replaceable VF
> screen that's actually good for manual focus?
>
> Then again Ricoh may just decide that no one's interested in a flagship
> APS-C camera anymore and just build entry/mid level APS-C bodies based on
> the convergence of the K-50 and K-S2 from now on. Personally I wouldn't be
> surprised, though it would sadden me.
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Re: Pentax KP??

[Zos Xavius]

There are a lot of rumors swirling they will introduce a mirrorless
system with a new mount this year. Don't give up hope just yet.

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Brian Walters <supera1...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> DSLR?  I was hoping mirrorless.
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 02:07 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>> A new DSLR cometh!
>>
>> http://photorumors.com/2017/01/13/new-pentax-kp-dslr-camera-rumored-to-be-announced-next-month-at-the-cp-show/
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Re: Pentax KP??

[Zos Xavius]

That's because the k-1 was in development for far longer than the k-3.
To be perfectly honest the k-3's USB speed is hardly much faster than
USB2 anyways.

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
> Collin B wrote:
>>
>> If Pentax can be the one to get WiFi (&  maybe Bluetooth) done right, what
>> a
>> coup!
>
>
> Are you kidding. The wifi in my K-1 is, as far as I can tell, completely
> useless.  I actually forgot that it was there.  They can't even do USB
> right, they downgraded the USB form USB3 to USB2 in the body.
>
>
>>
>> Let's have 802.11ac speed&  multi-point Bluetooth.
>> Add to this a wifi/bt ssd in your pocket to receive the images from the
>> camera.
>> And a nice dashboard tether.
>> And ... why not just add another processor for handling I/O, along with
>> another battery for its consumption.
>>
>> I offered my design/development services a few years ago but never heard
>> back ...
>> Just dreamin'
>>
>>
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Pentax KP??

[Zos Xavius]

A new DSLR cometh!

http://photorumors.com/2017/01/13/new-pentax-kp-dslr-camera-rumored-to-be-announced-next-month-at-the-cp-show/

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Re: The macro lens came (Venus 60mm 2.8)

[Zos Xavius]

Wow. That looks decent enough for sure.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:10 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> Sample here of a small screw.  The depth of field is non-existent.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/31415659494/in/dateposted-public/
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Gonz  wrote:
>> There is no aperture linking at all.  If you stop it down, the view
>> gets dim and you need to press the green button to meter.   So
>> essentially you focus at 2.8, stop down to the aperture you want,
>> meter with the green button, and snap the pic.   Its a pain, but if
>> your subject is static, not much of a problem. If your subject is a
>> bug or something more dynamic, its going to be more problematic.  Live
>> view is also dim when stopped down...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Gonz wrote:

 Well the Venus (Laowa) 60mm 2.8 macro lens (2:1) came.  I'm very
 impressed with the packaging.  It comes with a nice protective pouch,
 but the very nice thing was that it came in a vacuum packed wrapper
 around the lens, assuring that no dust would get in at any time.  It
 also came with a clear front filter, a nice touch.  The lens feels
 very solid and well built.  No rattling and its nice and hefty too.
 The focus feels smooth and just the right amount of resistance.

 Tried a few pics with it and its extremely sharp.  I am going to post
 some pics here but so far it is an amazing lens for the price. The
 stop-down metering does not bother me.  I suppose it could get a
 little problematic in situations where the subject is dynamic, like a
 bug or something.
>>>
>>>
>>> By stop down metering, do you mean like old m42, where you have to stop it
>>> down to meter? Or rather that there isn't a lever to stop down the lens when
>>> you take a photo, so the aperture is physically what is set on the ring? How
>>> does that work in live view?  My guess is that live view doesn't even
>>> notice.
>>>
>>>

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Re: Dreams can come true

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I wouldn't get your hopes up too high. There's no way K-14 is coming
back. The best you can hope for is some kodachrome flavored e-6 film.

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Re: If I upgrade from my K5 ... lenses and IR conversion question

[Zos Xavius]

Wrong. :)

http://www.jtwastronomy.com/tutorials/debayer.html

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:29 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> For demosaicing(sp???) to work, the firmware has to take into account the
> color filters over each photosite.  If you could remover the Bayer filter,
> (which I think is impossible, based on my knowledge of how it's applied),
> the camera would need completely rewritten firmware, possibly even new
> hardware in the image processing engine.  The image with standard firmware
> will be subtly off, now that didn't stop photographs in the past recording
> some version of reality film ortho film, but the color and luminance values
> will be off, and you won't get the advantage of the higher resolution since
> the camera will still process the image to try to create a rgb image.
>
>
>
> On 1/9/2017 4:06 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> I would be just as interesting if not more interesting to me to have
>> the Bayer filter removed (is that even possible?).  That would make
>> for a cool B camera.  don't know if the software would support this
>> kind of image though (in raw).
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>>
>>> I forgot to mention that the 28-105 is arguably the sharpest kit lens
>>> I've
>>> ever used.  I picked it up because I couldn't afford the 24-70, already
>>> had
>>> a tammy 28-75, and didn't have a weather proof standard range zoom.
>>>
>>> In decent light, I'm quite happy to leave it on my camera.  I don't know
>>> how
>>> it compares, other than speed and cost with the 24-70.
>>>
>>> Also, when I got my K-1 I had a K-3 and a K-3II which made a nice pair
>>> for
>>> when I wanted to use two bodies.  I held off on selling one, but these
>>> days
>>> only use one of them when I want to mount the 18-250 to have a small wide
>>> range camera to carry around, I should do something with the K-3.  One
>>> option, and probably the smart one, would be to sell it. Another option
>>> would be to have the IR block filter removed.
>>>
>>> This is a topic that comes up every now and then, and the list of shops
>>> doing it seems to change on a year by year basis.  Has anyone had the
>>> conversion done lately?  Who did it, are you happy with their work and
>>> what
>>> did it cost?
>>>
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Re: If I upgrade from my K5 ... lenses and IR conversion question

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On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 4:20 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
> Gonz wrote:
>>
>> I would be just as interesting if not more interesting to me to have
>> the Bayer filter removed (is that even possible?).  That would make
>> for a cool B camera.  don't know if the software would support this
>> kind of image though (in raw).
>
>
> My understanding is that the Bayer filter is actually part of the sensor,
> and can't be removed.  It would gain you about 5dB in sensitivity, at the
> loss of the ability to apply virtual color filters in post processing.

You can scrape it off or use chemicals to remove it. People offer
modified cameras with this done. You lose sensitivity due to the loss
of microlenses but gain sensitivity due to the loss of the CFA. This
seems to offset for the most part.

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Re: If I upgrade from my K5 ...

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Sure, but with some caveats. If you have zero movement in your scene,
then you are golden. If tree branches sway in the wind, water flows,
grasses move, people, etc, there will be some issues. The K-1 has some
software that helps with this when it processes PS files, but the k-3
never was upgraded to reflect that. If you are photoshop savvy you can
easily process the file in silkypix and then extract a single frame
out of the same DNG (it saves each shot individually) and merge the
two in photoshop. You can use the single frame grab to fill in the
areas where movement caused error though you will of course lose the
PS effect in that area. I would have no issues using pixelshift that
way. Its not perfect on the k-1 either at times with moving scenes so
you would likely have to do the same thing with that camera as well
though you would have less to fix I think. Does that make sense?

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Collin B  wrote:
> Zos said ...
>>The K-3 II has pixel shift, better SR (1 stop better), and the astro
>>tracer built in. It also lacks a pop up flash since that is where they
>>put the GPS unit. Otherwise they are 100% the same really. If you
>>didn't need pixel shift or GPS I would just pass myself.
>
> Is pixel shift usable outside of studio shooting?
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Re: If I upgrade from my K5 ...

[Zos Xavius]

Whoah. I never noticed that. Interesting. Their DR and noise
performance is 100% identical from what I can tell. Maybe sony revised
that sensor along the way.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 12:46 PM, P. J. Alling
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> The K-3II either has a different sensor or slightly different sensor
> masking, as it has a slightly higher pixel count.  Not enough to, by itself,
> make a "real world" difference in image quality, but it's not exactly the
> same.  Just very close in pretty much every respect.
>
>
>
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>>
>> The K-3 II has pixel shift, better SR (1 stop better), and the astro
>> tracer built in. It also lacks a pop up flash since that is where they
>> put the GPS unit. Otherwise they are 100% the same really. If you
>> didn't need pixel shift or GPS I would just pass myself.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Collin B <coll...@brendemuehl.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> What's the advantages of a K3II over a K3?
>>>
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Re: Kodak to bring back Ektachrome!

[Zos Xavius]

http://petapixel.com/2017/01/09/kodak-investigating-take-bring-back-kodachrome/

Now they are thinking about kodachrome. I will believe it when I see it really.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> It must be Ektaplasm
>
>> On 9 Jan 2017, at 17:39, P. J. Alling  wrote:
>>
>> Well, it isn't really "Kodak", maybe it isn't really Ektachrome.
>>
>>
>>> On 1/9/2017 10:18 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>>> >From the Washington Post!  FYI!
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/01/06/kodak-says-its-bringing-back-ektachrome-film-and-photographers-everywhere-smile/?hpid=hp_hp-cards_hp-card-technology%3Ahomepage%2Fcard_term=.c6c5ac75995d
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>>>
>>> Cheers, Christine
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Re: Kodak to bring back Ektachrome!

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You will be waiting a long time

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> There's lots of E-6 out there to shoot.
> I'm waiting for Kodachrome's return.
> Then ...
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Re: K-1 Autofocus

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Absolute truth!

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> It’s not exactly a leap in that i have yet to hear that anyone who bought the 
> K-1 has been displeased. You have to spend close to $1000 more to get a DSLR 
> that tops it in any significant way.
>
> Paul
>> On Jan 9, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Gonz  wrote:
>>
>> Well, this is pretty much the situation I'm in right now.  I guess I
>> could take a leap of faith and try the K-1.  The worst that can happen
>> is that I am not happy and I sell it at a small loss.  I'm so invested
>> in good Pentax glass that it would be a shame not to try .and. .give.
>> .them. .one. .more. .chance.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Bill  wrote:
>>> On 1/8/2017 3:04 PM, Gonz wrote:

 Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
 looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
 gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
 shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
 systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
 flagship D5.

 I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
 made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
 matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.


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>>> that plain and simply didn't work. The problem with the K5 was that Hoya was
>>> try9ng to eke every penny they could out of their unwanted camera division,
>>> and every component of the K5 was compromised. If you had a camera that
>>> worked, you were golden, but the problems with the K5 were legion, the AF
>>> being front and center.
>>>
>>> Ricoh, in their wisdom, corrected seemingly every problem that Hoya built
>>> into the Pentax line during their abysmal ownership.
>>> The K1 AF actually works, and works very well indeed. I don't know if it's
>>> up to Nikon D5 standards, but it is fast, and more to the point, when it
>>> says it has locked focus, it means it has locked onto the subject, not some
>>> point in space a few feet in front of or behind.
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Re: If I upgrade from my K5 ...

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The K-3 II has pixel shift, better SR (1 stop better), and the astro
tracer built in. It also lacks a pop up flash since that is where they
put the GPS unit. Otherwise they are 100% the same really. If you
didn't need pixel shift or GPS I would just pass myself.

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Re: K-1 Autofocus

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The AF in the K-5 was terrible. Plain and simple. The k-7 was even
more reliable. It might have been slightly (not really though) slower
but when it locked you had a good lock. The K-5 IIs and K-3 are much,
much more reliable. The K-3 is the best focusing camera I have ever
used on static subjects. Even in almost total darkness it will lock on
to nearly anything. The K-1 is supposed to be even better. Don't
worry.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
> looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
> gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
> shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
> systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
> flagship D5.
>
> I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
> made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
> matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.
>
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Re: Yongnuo YN585EX Flash for Pentax P-TTL

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These do run with wireless p-ttl if that makes them any more enticing.

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Re: macro lens

[Zos Xavius]

I would love to hear your impressions. There are a lot of interesting
lenses for the K-1 right now if you are ok with manual focus.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 8:37 PM, Gonz <rgonzoma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just ordered it from B Arriving Tuesday.  Whoop!  Can't wait to try it out.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I do not disagree with you. Still it is pretty surprising that they
>> are making really great lenses right out the gates. Look at yongnuo.
>> The best they can manage is copying expired canon optical designs.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 1/4/2017 6:36 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I will add that it looks really good. Pretty much all of Laowa's
>>>> lenses have been really good so far, so I honestly wonder who is
>>>> behind them exactly. Semiiexotic lenses designed like that came from
>>>> people that know what they are doing.
>>>
>>>
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>>> long as they don't have a bean counter hanging over their shoulders telling
>>> them to make cheapo junk.
>>>
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Re: macro lens

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Without a doubt. I always take a look at B and Adorama first. I try
to give Adorama preference but they hit me on shipping more for small
things like ink. I will say that Adorama has helped me so much in the
past and has pulled some serious strings for me. All I did was ask.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Gonz <rgonzoma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Zos.  B is way better than paypal to someone in Hong Kong!
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O==1128065=CjwKEAiA17LDBRDElqOGq8vR7m8SJAA1AC0_65Yyal49pxreLGmARWWWowfUpZb6svjGCoWBwN-lpxoCKqXw_wcB==y=Y=1876%2C92051677442%2C=REG=details
>>
>> See how google can change your life? Its in stock at B They would
>> either ship you the lens or refund your money if that is in error. The
>> people waiting were likely preorders or early adopters and I would
>> imagine that demand is vastly outstripping their production. There may
>> be a waiting list for some people. Its currently on backorder at
>> Adorama for instance.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:12 PM, John <sesso...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> The comments from users who ordered & paid for the lens & were
>>> complaining they had not received it are worrisome.
>>>
>>> On 1/4/2017 3:52 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thinking of getting one of these, they make it in Pentax mount too...
>>>> anybody have any experience with one?  The 2:1 sounds great.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://petapixel.com/2015/02/02/review-venus-60mm-f2-8-worlds-first-21-macro-lens-infinity-focus/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: macro lens

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I do not disagree with you. Still it is pretty surprising that they
are making really great lenses right out the gates. Look at yongnuo.
The best they can manage is copying expired canon optical designs.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/4/2017 6:36 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>>
>> I will add that it looks really good. Pretty much all of Laowa's
>> lenses have been really good so far, so I honestly wonder who is
>> behind them exactly. Semiiexotic lenses designed like that came from
>> people that know what they are doing.
>
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> them to make cheapo junk.
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Re: macro lens

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I will add that it looks really good. Pretty much all of Laowa's
lenses have been really good so far, so I honestly wonder who is
behind them exactly. Semiiexotic lenses designed like that came from
people that know what they are doing.

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> Thinking of getting one of these, they make it in Pentax mount too...
> anybody have any experience with one?  The 2:1 sounds great.
>
> http://petapixel.com/2015/02/02/review-venus-60mm-f2-8-worlds-first-21-macro-lens-infinity-focus/
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Re: macro lens

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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O==1128065=CjwKEAiA17LDBRDElqOGq8vR7m8SJAA1AC0_65Yyal49pxreLGmARWWWowfUpZb6svjGCoWBwN-lpxoCKqXw_wcB==y=Y=1876%2C92051677442%2C=REG=details

See how google can change your life? Its in stock at B They would
either ship you the lens or refund your money if that is in error. The
people waiting were likely preorders or early adopters and I would
imagine that demand is vastly outstripping their production. There may
be a waiting list for some people. Its currently on backorder at
Adorama for instance.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:12 PM, John  wrote:
> The comments from users who ordered & paid for the lens & were
> complaining they had not received it are worrisome.
>
> On 1/4/2017 3:52 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> Thinking of getting one of these, they make it in Pentax mount too...
>> anybody have any experience with one?  The 2:1 sounds great.
>>
>>
>> http://petapixel.com/2015/02/02/review-venus-60mm-f2-8-worlds-first-21-macro-lens-infinity-focus/
>>
>>
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Re: OT: A glaring deficiency

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don't you think that's a little overboard? ;)

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>>>I'd think it would come up with a raft of links.<<
>
> Oar maybe knot.
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>
>>
>> John wrote:
>>>
>>> According to the internet, no ships of any kind used the Mississippi
>>> River prior to the invention of the Steam Boat.
>>>
>>> ... if they did, Google can't find anything about them.
>>
>>
>> I'd think it would come up with a raft of links.
>>>
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Re: Hacked again

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Change your password and change it often. Also scan your computer for malware.

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Morris Galloway
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> De Lurking.  If any of you have been receiving strange e-mails purportedly
> sent by me regarding medications or pills, rest assured they were not really
> from me. It seems my e-mail account has been hacked again. I plan to put
> into place the most stringent of security measures that I can conceive, and
> then try to track the miscreant down and make him eat a case of Lima beans.
> Sorry if you have been victimized, but then I have too.  Hope you accept my
> apology.
>
> Respectfully, G.
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Re: PESO One of these things...

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Nice shot. K-1 and 150-450? What was your iso?

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> is not like the other:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18328619=lg
>
> Male and female house sparrows
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Re: OT: A glaring deficiency

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Don't forget here that the louisiana purchase only happened like 10-15
years before steamboats were invented. The south was very undeveloped
at that point. Prevailing winds are north to south. So is the current
on the Mississippi. Sailing would have been nearly impossible.

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> River prior to the invention of the Steam Boat.
>
> ... if they did, Google can't find anything about them.
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Re: OT: A glaring deficiency

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http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/DETOC/transport/steamboats.html

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> River prior to the invention of the Steam Boat.
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Re: suggested online vendors for frames?

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And it seems they only have wood frames. So sorry if you needed metal
only. If you google the size and aluminum you will get results on
google shopping.

On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 7:42 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm about to order a whole bunch of frames from these guys:
>
> http://www.arttoframe.com/8x10-Satin-Black-picture-frame/FRBW26079?page_type=E
>
> Prices seem decent enough really. You can even get UV glass. Nice.
>
> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Christine Aguila <christ...@caguila.com> 
> wrote:
>> Thanks, Everyone!  Much appreciated.  I have been looking at many of the 
>> vendors suggested; I just wanted to reach out and see if anyone had a vendor 
>> they really liked and recommended.
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> Cheers, Christine
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 30, 2016, at 4:38 PM, ann sanfedele <ann...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> www.dickblick.com
>>>
>>> ann
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/30/2016 4:13 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>>>> Hi Everyone:
>>>>
>>>> I’m in the market for some black metal frames of various sizes.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have an online frame vendor they can recommend?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Christine
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Re: suggested online vendors for frames?

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I'm about to order a whole bunch of frames from these guys:

http://www.arttoframe.com/8x10-Satin-Black-picture-frame/FRBW26079?page_type=E

Prices seem decent enough really. You can even get UV glass. Nice.

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> they really liked and recommended.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Cheers, Christine
>
>
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>> www.dickblick.com
>>
>> ann
>>
>>
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>>>
>>> I’m in the market for some black metal frames of various sizes.
>>>
>>> Anyone have an online frame vendor they can recommend?
>>>
>>> Cheers, Christine
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Re: Lightroom upgrades

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they recommend 8gb if using photoshop as well. double that is a good place
to start indeed.

On Dec 30, 2016 10:57 AM, "P. J. Alling"  wrote:

> LIghtroom is not lightweight.  You really need more ram.   I don't know
> how much ram Adobe claims is the minimum to run Lightroom 6.0 or CC but
> take whatever they say and double it.
>
> Besides being perpetually broke these days that's one of the reasons I use
> a lot of old software.   Once you figure out how to make it work, if you
> can, it just flies on modern hardware, with less than optimal amounts of
> memory.
>
>
> On 12/30/2016 8:03 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>
>> Re started the computer after is froze and tried again. Slow to load
>> but initial test photo seemed to go well. I jhave 4 Gig ram and i
>> think my iMac will take more ram. Its from 2011 i think i bought it
>> just prior to Xmas that year and in the About this mac screen under
>> memory it shows two 2 gig slots used and 2 slots empty.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Just restart the computer and see if it happens again. You might look
>>> inside the catalog folder and see if there are any residual "journal" files
>>> (they should be obvious). If there are, delete them before running LR again.
>>>
>>> If it does happen again, call Adobe support (or start a support chat via
>>> their website) and get them to help. They're a pain to get through to, but
>>> once in they provide good support. (The chats are usually the fastest thing
>>> to use.)
>>>
>>> G
>>>
>>> On Dec 29, 2016, at 1:11 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:

 bought and installed the upgrade to LR 6. Seems to be ok at first
 glance then tried to exit program and it froze the computer.

 Oh Oh.

 Dave

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Re: B seems to have Pentax stuff on sale

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Thanks larry

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Re: PESO - Multitasking

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=)

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Down, boy! :)
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think I could help her multitask more. ;)
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> It's coffee o'clock ...
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/31401153970/lightbox/
>>>
>>> 90% SFW. There's a sliver of nipple, but it's in b so that makes it
>>> safe enough, no? :)
>>>
>>> 645z, dfa645 55mm/2.8, f/4, 1/15th sec, 800 ISO; handheld.
>>> 5' gridded stripbox, camera right.
>>>
>>> Dane Halo, model, makeup, hair.
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Re: And the A 16mm fisheye to boot

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That looks an awful lot like the 10-17 really. Especially the metal hood.

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> http://springfield.craigslist.org/pho/5880083400.html
> Price is a good one.
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Re: In case anyone in MO needs M42 ...

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Not a bad deal really.

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Re: K50/1.2 / K-1 NIB price history?

[Zos Xavius]

The price was recently hiked $150. It was that much less off the
current price before.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 8:06 AM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
> Im not sure there was even a NEED for the K50/1.2, I think it may have been
> produced just
>
> because it could be with the new K mount lens mount which had a bigger mouth
> that made it possible.
>
>
> HEY, has the K-1 NIB price gone up since it came out?  I see on ebay they
> are $1850 now, I thought
>
> they were less than that originally, no?
>
> jco
>
>
>
> On 12/29/2016 5:57 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>>
>> i have one, mint in the original box. jco
>>
>>
>> On 12/29/2016 4:26 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>>>
>>> On 28/12/16, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>>
 42,
>>>
>>> Bill has most of them.
>>>
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Re: K50/1.2

[Zos Xavius]

42?

On Dec 28, 2016 8:54 PM, "Bill"  wrote:

> On 12/28/2016 7:51 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
>
>> How many of these were made?
>>
>> Is there any relationship between the serial numbers and the dates?
>>
>>
> 42, and no.
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Re: K50/1.2

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Want

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 5:57 AM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
> i have one, mint in the original box. jco
>
>
> On 12/29/2016 4:26 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>>
>> On 28/12/16, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>> 42,
>>
>> Bill has most of them.
>>
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Re: Thoughts on Electronic vs Mechanical shutter?

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You don't see the rolling effect because it is only a half electronic
shutter. When the shutter closes or stops as an electronic aperture
does is when you get the motion artifacts. That's when the sensor
starts reading out. With a mechanical shutter it just closes and
starts reading off the sensor. With electronic it reads the sensor in
chunks. First curtain is possibly going to have more noise, but
probably not really since you are already in live view and the sensor
is active. If anything the electronic shutter might help with
vibrations. I don't see any major disadvantage there really.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 3:51 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I was playing with some night landscape work tonight, using live view, and
> when I took a photo, I didn't hear the shutter.  I realized that was because
> I had set my camera to use electronic shutter in live view because that
> means it doesn't need to go flop flop with the shutter and you don't get all
> of the shutter lag.
>
> I realize that with objects in motion, using an electronic, or rolling,
> shutter, you can get some interesting bits of distortion.  However, it seems
> to me that on very long exposures, that effect is minimized, and you are
> saved a whole bunch of mirror bounce.
>
> Are there any major disadvantages of using live view/electronic shutter, on
> tripod mounted long exposures that I'm missing?
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Re: Lightroom upgrades

[Zos Xavius]

I have upgraded every versions since version 2. LR6/CC is extremely
heavy on RAM consumption. On an 8gb machine it is swapping constantly.
Especially with photoshop open as well. It is using like 2-3GB at all
times. At least on windows. I would suggest upgrading your RAM if you
only have 8gb as well.

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 9:01 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> I have 4.4 and am looking at getting 6.0, not the CC but the stand
> alone. My version 4.4 does fine for what i want, but am looking at
> upgrading my Nikon's to a D7200 or D500 so version 8 would be good for
> those NEF files as well as my RAF Fuji files. Would save me a step by
> converting to DNG and having extra large files on the computer
>
> Any one made that big of a leap from 4-6,
>
> OS X 10.11.6
>
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Re: Pentax 15mm F/4 SMC DA ED AL Limited

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If I were to buy a K-1 I think a 15-30 would be a must have. Weather
sealing and decent all around quality kind of make it a no brainer.
That does make a k-1 a lot more expensive though and is why I have
held off on buying one. I'll just make due with my 12-24 that seems to
have picked up slightly more field curvature than I remember when
japan fixed it. Or maybe it just did better on a K-5 when I last had
it working? I just stop it down and its ok for the most part if I
focus it correctly. It's still probably better in the corners than the
15ltd at 15mm..

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Re: Pentax 15mm F/4 SMC DA ED AL Limited

[Zos Xavius]

Here are some more things to think about. There is also the laowa 15mm
that is supposedly a strong performer. It is also a macro lens and has
some tilt capability. It's $500 at B Kind of a bargain considering
what you can do with it. They have a 12mm/2.8 (!) coming as well they
are claiming as zero distortion. It seems to mostly live up to the
claim too! I am guessing that might list a bit more, but I can't
remember if they have indicated a price yet. Those seem like the best
cheaper primes for the money currently. There is also a new company
called Irix that is making a variety of wide angle primes that are
slightly more expensive. They also seem to perform well, but I haven't
seen much on them yet. They are all however, full on manual with not
even so much as aperture information, so be ready for that. The
samyang is also well regarded but not pefect by any means. I cannot
remember, but they might have an aperture toggle on the samyang
lenses. At any rate it doesn't really matter so much with a wide
angle. Just focus and stop down and learn to count clicks. Done. You
could easily shoot aperture priority that way like any m42 lens. I
don't think there is much to knock on the 15-30, but I would imagine a
prime to have better performance/weight/etc. Of course a prime would
only cover one focal length though. The 15ltd I believe does not have
an image circle that covers FF by any means. Given its edge
performance on aps-c I wouldn't expect that to look great past the
aps-c sensor either.

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> John, you should look into the Samyang 14mm f2.8.  It's available in K
> mount, full frame and for what it is, very inexpensive. It's manual focus,
> but at f5.6 setting focus at about 30 feet should give acceptable in focus
> from about 5-6 feet to infinity. Even at f 2.8 you can get acceptable focus
> from about 9 feet to infinity.   Reviews are all very complementary,
> comparing it to the Zeise MF lenses as far as image quality.  Build, is
> another story, but they're not horrible.  The only real disadvantage
> compared to the Pentax DA 15 I can see is size.   They look to be about the
> same size as, or maybe marginally smaller than the A 15mm f3.5.
>
>
> On 12/25/2016 6:18 PM, John wrote:
>>
>> Anyone try this on a K1 yet? I'm considering getting myself a late
>> Christmas present.
>>
>> How badly does it vignette? If it's not too bad, I could probably "fix"
>> it in Camera Raw.
>>
>> An alternative might be the Pentax HD PENTAX-D FA 15-30mm f/2.8 ED SDM
>> WR, which would have roughly the same field of view on the K1 as my
>> Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC has on the K3. The Sigma vignettes like
>> shooting through a port-hole from across the room on the K1.
>>
>> The only problem is the 15-30mm f/2.8 costs 3 times as much as the 15 f/4.
>>
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Re: Lens test from the 67 days

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Those tests are based upon a 35mm 6mp sensor monochrome astro sensor.
I think they are suspect. How can we know focus was perfect with each
one with no live view? I think the 67 lenses should do a little better
here. They might not be enough for a 36mp sensor, but they should be
resolving more than 6mp on FF. If you extrapolate and enlarge the area
to cover 6x7 that would indicate they are resolving less than 12mp if
you had a 6x7 sensor since 35mm has a 2x crop factor.

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 7:56 AM, Collin B  wrote:
> www.narrowbandimaging.com/images/pentax_67_lens_tests.pdf
>
> Just in case you want to put one on your K1.
>
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Re: PT LR 4.4 and Epson 2400 printing

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At the very least you should be able to set custom sizes and select
those. Its been an awful long time since I used an epson on a mac but
I remember it being very similar to windows since it is using the
printer driver for most of the choices. I also remember now how much I
hated printing from macs. It was just so much easier on the PC side
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Re: Pirelli goes natural

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LMAO. My thoughts exactly.

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Are these the images? Really??
>
> Paul via phone
>
>> On Dec 20, 2016, at 9:59 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>
>> Peter Lindbergh shot this years Pirelli Calendar without using makeup or 
>> retouching.
>>
>> https://www.fastcocreate.com/3066063/quick-hit/the-2017-pirelli-calendar-with-nicole-kidman-and-julianne-moore-is-raw-and-unretou
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Re: PESO - Multitasking

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I think I could help her multitask more. ;)

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> It's coffee o'clock ...
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/31401153970/lightbox/
>
> 90% SFW. There's a sliver of nipple, but it's in b so that makes it
> safe enough, no? :)
>
> 645z, dfa645 55mm/2.8, f/4, 1/15th sec, 800 ISO; handheld.
> 5' gridded stripbox, camera right.
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Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens

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The 60-250. You can also modify it to cover FF perfectly. Seems like a
no brainer to me. The 60-250 crushes the 55-300.

On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> Having read this thread with interest, I would say the 60-250 is your best
> bet but it is not cheap. You could add a 1.4x too! Paul had great success
> with this combination. I have an FA 100-300 which I used before I acquired
> an HD 55-300. Despite the glowing reviews for the 55-300, I have found it no
> better than the under-rated 100-300 which can be had for a song.
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message- From: Larry Colen
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 4:33 AM
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>
> Going to full frame, I no longer have a lens for the k1 to fill the niche of
> my 18-250, being reasonably long, if not particularly fast, but will still
> fit in my camera bag and not weigh a ton.
> The da 55-300, despite nominally being an aps lens seems to do ok on ff. Is
> there anything even better, preferably not too expensive?
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Re: PESO: The Great Pyramid

[Zos Xavius]

Hah. I was born that year. ;)

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> That's great. I looked at it and thought 'that is so retro', then saw the 
> date!
>
>> On 16 Dec 2016, at 19:02, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>
>> Well, a pretty darn good pyramid. Shot with my old Mamiya C220 TLR and 
>> 80/2.8 lens on 6x6 Tri-X in 1978. Scanned yesterday.
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18322769=lg
>>
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Re: DXO Filmpack 3

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+1 for silver efex. its crack to me.

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> I don't know if you are already aware of it, but both Nik Analog Efex
> and Silver Efex have film simulation features. Silver Efex Pro's film
> presets are more restrained and "believable" in my opinion, but they
> are both useful.
>
> And even the Dfine noise reduction and raw sharpener plugins are worth
> the download alone, for me.
>
> https://www.google.com/nikcollection/
>
> 100% free and no activation keys or other crippling BS.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 10:05 AM, P. J. Alling
>  wrote:
>> Brian, (and anybody else who might be interested).
>>
>> First thanks for the upload.  Unfortunately it doesn't work.  I fired off an
>> email to DXO support describing the failure,  which is that the software
>> reports it isn't able to connect to their activation server, (somehow that
>> doesn't seem to be Key related), but anyway.
>>
>> I didn't really expect a response since I'm using free software that's a
>> year old.  However this morning I got a message from DXO informing me that
>> the Key only works on one one activation.   That wasn't explicitly described
>> in their offer, (and I've actually used the Key to activate software at
>> least twice, but that's another story), and the package should allow me a
>> thirty day free trial, which is also disabled by the error condition.
>>
>> Oh well, the response was more than I expected.
>>
>> Before I received their response I had tried the suggestions for connection
>> problems on their site, with no joy.  So I updated my report to them as I
>> believe that there's more going on,  and they should be aware of it.  I
>> figured I owed them that much for a years use of their software.
>>
>> Sadly I'm going to miss the Filmpack functionality in Photoshop, it's not
>> the same having it in Optics Pro since I usually do my finishing touches
>> with PS.
>>
>> If anyone else managed to get the software to actually connect to the
>> activation server I'd love to know, but for now I see the issue as being
>> dead.
>>
>>
>> On 12/15/2016 4:18 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's the link:
>>>
>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/DxO_FilmPack3_Setup.exe
>>>
>>> I hope it works - didn't have time to check if there was any uploading
>>> corruption.  Let me know how it goes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016, at 03:58 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 Thanks Brian, I appreciate that.


 On 12/15/2016 2:43 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016, at 11:37 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>>
>> Well the question is, did anyone download, and keep the installation
>> package for this software when DXO made it available for free a couple
>> of years ago?
>>
>> I have the software key, but no installation so when I attempt to use
>> the photoshop plugin it leads to decidedly weird behavior on my new
>> installation.
>>
> If you mean DxO Filmpack 3 'Essential Addition', then yes.
>
> I can Dropbox it if you want.
>
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Re: Annsan Offline

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Thank you Paul!

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote:
> I called Ann to tell her you might e able to help, Zos, and she told me that 
> she found her password in her computer’s settings, so she’s good on that 
> score. Internet is still down however.
>
> Paul
>> On Dec 16, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> She can call me if she wants. 412 212 3232. I might be able to help. I
>> hope she gets squared away!
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> Ann called because she needs help with Google Chrome on a PC. I can’t help 
>>> her because I don’t have a PC, and I don’t use Chrome, but we had a nice 
>>> talk anyway. I told her to call Mark Roberts. She wants me to tell the list 
>>> that she’s offline for a while. Evidently Time Warner is having cable 
>>> problems, and in NY, that means they have an ugly underground problem. Hope 
>>> she’s back soon.
>>>
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Re: Annsan Offline

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She can call me if she wants. 412 212 3232. I might be able to help. I
hope she gets squared away!

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> anyway. I told her to call Mark Roberts. She wants me to tell the list that 
> she’s offline for a while. Evidently Time Warner is having cable problems, 
> and in NY, that means they have an ugly underground problem. Hope she’s back 
> soon.
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Re: This camera seems DOA

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I could see $10 gaining a bit of a following, but $100 a month is just
sheer lunacy. Let's not forget that this company has yet to deliver an
actual product despite at least one other failed attempt at
crowdfunding something.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> $1200/year?  Why?  People already have phones that do pretty much the
> same thing on top of their existing data plan
>
> https://www.cnet.com/news/relonch-bets-youll-pay-99-per-month-for-one-button-photography/
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Re: Computer upgrade two step.

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I once got it combined with some choice words to startup in safe mode
with F8 at boot. The thing is the window is so small it is almost
impossible to really to hit it at the right time. If anything it
should have been left in testing a little longer. A lot of the
problems I got caught up with were certainly driver related and once
they solved some of the legacy driver issues I really haven't had any
problems. The newer builds seems a bit more reliable overall too. I'm
also on the slow testing ring, but I see no real reason to be on the
bleeding edge anymore. A lot of my initial frustrations have all been
rectified.

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 10:54 PM, John Francis <jo...@panix.com> wrote:
>
> That's my experience as well.  It ran much better on our 4GB systems than
> W7 - it was even quite usable on the oldest (dual celeron processor) box.
>
> There are things to dislike about it - there's no easy way to force it
> to boot into safe mode if you can't get through the initial boot sequence,
> to name but one - but overall I find it to be an improvement.
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 10:27:44PM -0500, Zos Xavius wrote:
>> It actually is really nice. It performs better for me than 7 ever did
>> so I will gladly take the performance improvement. Pretty impressive
>> really considering I am currently using 5 year old hardware.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 10:13 PM, John <sesso...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > On 12/11/2016 2:57 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Side note: if you have a legitimate windows 7 key you can still
>> >> upgrade to windows 10. Google windows 10 accesibility upgrade. Just
>> >> pretend you are deaf or blind for a day and do it. Windows 10 is a
>> >> pretty big leap in performance over Windows 7. I don't know how much
>> >> ram you have but 8GB is a pretty good number to start with if you are
>> >> running the newer lightroom. 16-32 is a lot better I must say.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Windoze 10 is not an upgrade. It is an abomination!
>> >
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Re: Computer upgrade two step.

[Zos Xavius]

It actually is really nice. It performs better for me than 7 ever did
so I will gladly take the performance improvement. Pretty impressive
really considering I am currently using 5 year old hardware.

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 10:13 PM, John <sesso...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 12/11/2016 2:57 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>
>>
>> Side note: if you have a legitimate windows 7 key you can still
>> upgrade to windows 10. Google windows 10 accesibility upgrade. Just
>> pretend you are deaf or blind for a day and do it. Windows 10 is a
>> pretty big leap in performance over Windows 7. I don't know how much
>> ram you have but 8GB is a pretty good number to start with if you are
>> running the newer lightroom. 16-32 is a lot better I must say.
>>
>
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Re: OT: Diesels

[Zos Xavius]

It is probably for the best that diesels never caught on in America
for several reasons. Can you imagine the increased pollution?

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Clouseau would have been wrong. :-)
>
> Paul via phone
>
>> On Dec 11, 2016, at 3:54 PM, Jostein  wrote:
>>
>> Well as Clouseau would have said, not anymeur. :-)
>> Jostein
>>
>> Den 11.12.2016 21.51, skrev Paul Stenquist:
>>> U.S. Diesel standards were much stricter than Europe's for decades. I 
>>> worked with Mercedes and they were troubled by the challenge.but they met 
>>> it. Europe was more or less pulled along.
>>>
>>> Paul via phone
>>>
 On Dec 11, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Jostein  wrote:

 Actually, Paul;
 The standars for emissions have been phased in gradually, in "tiers". 
 There's been a strong push from the car mfgs, starting at least a decade 
 ago, to make authorities in both the EU, USA, Japan and others harmonise 
 the timing of the phase-in.
 There's no more "banning" in the US than elsewhere, so sales drops are 
 more likely due to other factors such as customer preference or 
 market-regulating import tariffs.

 Jostein

 Den 11.12.2016 21.33, skrev Paul Stenquist:
> The U.S. Diesel particulate and NOx standards effectively banned them 
> here.
> Mercedes , BMW and GM have been able to meet the standards with urea
> injection and filters, but the tuning was somewhat crippling.
> Volkswagen and Audi got around it by cheating. Diesels are all but
> deadfor cars in the U.S. still viable for light trucks.
>
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>
>> On Dec 11, 2016, at 3:00 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>>
>> And in various European cities, there's a move to ban ALL diesel engined 
>> devices from the city .. permanently.
>>
>> G
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 11, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Bipin Gupta  wrote:
>>>
>>> The trend here in India is for Diesel Cars as Diesel Fuel is 30%
>>> Cheaper than Petrol.
>>> And Trucks, Busses, Tractors, Trains. Generators etc were always Diesel.
>>>
>>> What a waste in transporting just one chap in one vehicle. Our roads
>>> are chock a block with
>>> traffic moving at snails pace during the Office Commute Hours.
>>>
>>> In Delhi, India's Capital, ODD & Even numbered cars ply on alternate
>>> days, such are the levels
>>> of pollution, smog & fog so as to disrupt Flights, Trains & Highway 
>>> traffic.
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Re: Computer upgrade two step.

[Zos Xavius]

If you have a spyder 2 you will be well served by a newer colorimeter.
I would highly suggest a Colormunki Display as its the most accurate
out of all of them right now and half what the i1 that uses the same
sensor costs. Paired with displaycal it will give you a very accurate
profile.

Side note: if you have a legitimate windows 7 key you can still
upgrade to windows 10. Google windows 10 accesibility upgrade. Just
pretend you are deaf or blind for a day and do it. Windows 10 is a
pretty big leap in performance over Windows 7. I don't know how much
ram you have but 8GB is a pretty good number to start with if you are
running the newer lightroom. 16-32 is a lot better I must say.

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 1:18 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> By which I mean one step forward one step back.
>
> I just finished an OS replacement on my Desktop, to Windows 7 "Ultimate"
> which you would think is the Pinnacle of Windows 7 but isn't, it's one level
> down from that, (I don't think that word means what they think it means).
>
> Well anyway, I've got a working image of Win7 on my desktop, but now comes
> the fun task of discovering what hardware and software that I've come to
> rely on over the past few years no longer works.  I already know that my
> trusty Spyder2 isn't supported, (crap).
>
> Almost 24 full hours of bug fixes and "improvements" automatically
> downloaded with the occasional glitch to make you pull your hair out, (and I
> really don't have enough to spare these days), at least that's almost over.
>
> I decided to do a clean install as my previous version of Windows was 32bit,
> but hardware will support 64...
>
> Why did I finally succumb to this, one because I wanted to feel real empathy
> for Dave and John in their struggles but mainly the parade of no longer
> supported on... messages has been starting in earnest.
>
> The only good thing is a few programs I've wanted to try that weren't
> supported by the old OS will work on the new.
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Re: OT? Transfers

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Hear hear. I still have a few USB2 drives doing real work in a soft raid array.

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Many of us did "real work" with USB 2 and USB 1 external drives. Fast is 
> nice, but it's not essential.
>
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>
>> On Dec 9, 2016, at 7:09 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
>>
>> If you're going to be using the external HD for any real time work, you're 
>> going to need USB 3.0. The way to tell, if they followed convention, the USB 
>> 2.0 ports are white the 3.0 are blue.
>>
>>> On 12/9/2016 4:51 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>>> My computer is an HP 8000 PC with 4g ram and 1tb hard drive... got it 
>>> refurbished without a lot of documentation -- I don't know if my USB ports 
>>> are 2 or 3
>>>
>>> Does it matter? The Sea-gate  2t is $89 at my Staples and I have a $16 
>>> coupon from them...  Ijust want to backup everything on to it.. I only 
>>> have200GB of hard drive free on the internal - need to prune but though it 
>>> would be nice to backup first...
>>>
>>> ann
>>>
>>>
 On 12/9/2016 2:19 PM, John wrote:
 That's pretty good.

 I just checked the exchange rate & $99 CAD is $75 USD, so that's about
 $15 USD cheaper than Staples is selling them here in the states.

> On 12/9/2016 7:17 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:36 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> Dave - how much is the 2tb at Stapleswhere you are?
>
> Local store has them for $99 on sale
>>
>> ann
>>
>>
>>> On 12/8/2016 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>>
>>> I have decided, now that i have the time, to transfer all of my CD and
>>> DVD back up photo disks to an external HD, I need a new one anyway and
>>> Staples has a nice Seagate 2tb on sale. I also have a number of 32 gig
>>> thumb drives i thought might also do the trick. Just curious would the
>>> transfer rate be better from the CD player to externals as opposed to
>>> thumb drives.?
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>
>>


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Re: OT? Transfers

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I would suggest avoiding Seagate as they currently have the highest
failure rates. Hitachi is actually the most reliable by far with 2%
failure rates. Western Digital comes in a distant second. I use
Western Digital drives mostly and they have been reliable. So has my
hitachi drives. I have an old Lacie 2 drive raid array with hitachi
drives that is still churning along just fine and filling in as part
of a bigger soft raid array. I did have to replace the power supply
because their power supplies are garbage and fail, but that happens.
How much storage would all of your files take up currently? For the
cost I would suggest 4tb externals over 2tb because they aren't really
that much more for 2x the storage. I currently have my whole catalog
stored on a Western Digital Elements 2-drive raid array. It wasn't
exactly cheap, but I did get a decent deal on ebay going with one with
two refurbished drives. I think they are $350 or so new. They use USB3
and actually have three USB3 ports on the back which is super nice for
plugging more externals in. Whatever you get, do yourself a huge favor
and at least get an external 4tb drive as a backup. I have a regular
4tb Western Digital Elements drive and for a brief time I used that to
store my catalog and it was reliable. I think I paid $125 or so for
it. Two of those would likely serve you well and be large enough to
cover your data needs for some time. Just a suggestion really.

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 6:39 PM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com> wrote:
> oh another question. Am i getting into any troubel if i go more then
> 2TB for the drive, say a 3 or 4. its an older computer, 2011 iMac
> 21.5" with OS 10.11.6
>
> Dave
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 6:33 PM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Good ideas Igor. I have always used Seagate HDD's but never really
>> looked at reviews. I'll do that
>>
>> iMac is USB 2
>>
>> Just wondering now if i should copy them to my HD then to the new
>> external that way they will be on my time machine drive aswell (ie 2
>> drives). I have alwasys in the past had two externals hooked up to the
>> computer, plus i will still have the CD/DVD's
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Daev
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Igor PDML-StR <pdml...@komkon.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Zos said what I was going to say.
>>> You will not feel a difference between 7200 and 5400 rpm drives in the
>>> transfer rate when you are backing up photos.
>>>
>>> The main situation when you feel the difference is in the "random access",
>>> when the system/program accesses many small files. (E.g. in case of a LR
>>> database.)
>>>
>>> Something else to add to this:
>>> 1. I would rely on a reasonable HDD much more than on a flash thumb drive.
>>> 2. HDDs (especially the cheaper ones, low grade "consumer" models.) still
>>> have a good chance to fail. So, if some photos are really important to you,
>>> you might consider having an additional backup copy.
>>> 3. When you are choosing the HDD model, - take a look at the reviews on
>>> Amazon or Newegg.com - some HDDs have higher rate of failures, including
>>> DoA. Read the lowest ratings for the contender HDD, and see what are the
>>> problems that people are complaining about.
>>> Note, that you will find negative reviews for ALL HDDs, it's the percentage
>>> of those that matters.
>>>
>>> 4. IMHO, the "sweet spots" (price-wise) for the HDDs are now at 5-6TB, and
>>> also for some drives at 2-3 TB.
>>>
>>> 5. While people have mentioned that CD reading rate will be the limiting
>>> factor, - in the future, you'll continue using this HDD for backups.
>>> So, - if your computer supports USB 3.0, I'd highly recommend buying a USB
>>> 3.0 HDD.
>>> [If your computer doesn't have a USB 3.0 port, - it might be worth
>>> considering options of adding a USB 3.0 controller to it.]
>>> In my experience, even with a USB-2 controller, USB-3.0 external HDDs get a
>>> slightly higher sustained transfer rate. (Though the difference is not as
>>> significant, as in case of a USB 3.0 controller.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Igor
>>>
>>>
>>> Zos Xavius Thu, 08 Dec 2016 08:28:55 -0800 wrote:
>>>
>>> The CD is going to be slower than any drive you connect it to. Don't
>>> worry about rpms. Most externals are 5400 anyways. You'll spend a
>>> premium to get a 7200rpm drive that is external and it won't really
>>> gain you much in transfer speed though your random seek times will
>>> improve. Something th

Re: OT? Transfers

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The CD is going to be slower than any drive you connect it to. Don't
worry about rpms. Most externals are 5400 anyways. You'll spend a
premium to get a 7200rpm drive that is external and it won't really
gain you much in transfer speed though your random seek times will
improve. Something that doesn't matter when transferring large files
really.

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 11:09 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> thanks, never thought to look at rpm's
>
> Dave
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> Almost certainly better transfer rate to an external skinny drive. Make sure 
>> it’s a 7200 rpm Seagate. And thumb drives seem to fail frequently. At least 
>> in my experience, although that’s based on use of recycled thumb drives that 
>> I’ve gotten at press conferences.
>> Paul
>>> On Dec 8, 2016, at 10:38 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>>
>>> I have decided, now that i have the time, to transfer all of my CD and
>>> DVD back up photo disks to an external HD, I need a new one anyway and
>>> Staples has a nice Seagate 2tb on sale. I also have a number of 32 gig
>>> thumb drives i thought might also do the trick. Just curious would the
>>> transfer rate be better from the CD player to externals as opposed to
>>> thumb drives.?
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
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Re: Tonight I got a little Messier

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Most lenses go beyond infinity for two reasons: they focus shift and
need the extra room to reach infinity or they are designed to deal
with temperature fluctuations. A cold lens shrinks.

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
> Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>>
>>
>> Larry,
>>
>> I haven't done much of astro-photography, so, I am just
>> curious: why focusing at infinity wouldn't work in this case
>> (i.e. turning the focusing ring to the end of the range)?
>> Is it just because the particular lens(es) are not designed or
>> manufactured well for infinity focus? (E.g. they have "beyond infinity"
>> focus at the end of the wring range.)
>
>
> Exactly. I've been told that "to infinity and beyond" is necessary for
> autofocus, although that doesn't seem true for my FA77.  I suspect that it's
> just a lot less expensive to guarantee that a camera will focus past
> infinity than to carefully calibrate to go exactly to infinity.  I wonder
> how much sample variation there is in registration distance between the
> mount and the sensor, as that would also affect the "infinity focus point".
>
>
>>
>> Igor
>>
>>
>> Larry Colen Sun, 04 Dec 2016 11:49:18 -0800 wrote:
>>
>> Jostein wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Your results are on par with what I've got from single exposures with
>> the Sigma 500/4.5. Proper focusing seems to be the limiting factor
>> rather than actual MTF resolution.
>>
>>
>> Yes, focusing was a real challenge. If I remember to bring my green
>> laser, I can aim that at a distant point and have something to focus on.
>> I probably should have tried focusing on Sirius, it was a lot brighter.
>>
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Re: K-1 quirks

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I checked on the K-5 IIs I have here and AF-C works with the AF IR
beam on the flash and the flash fires. I would imagine the K-3 is the
same because I usually leave it in AF-C. Mine is at a friend's house
right now though so I cannot check. Have you tried a pentax flash with
it? It might be that it isn't liking your flash.

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Re: K-1 quirks

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If you have the rear screen turned off on the K-3 it doesn't flash the
mode as well. Best I can say is to memorize the number of clicks to
your next preferred mode. You can usually tell what mode it is in by
what settings are changeable in the viewfinder too. Like on the K-5
IIs AV and M are only two clicks apart. I think they are all like that
with TAv in between.

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> Another one that I forgot to ask about.  With all of my other cameras, when
> I'd change the mode (M, Av, TAv, Tv ...) it would briefly display on the
> back LCD what the new mode was. Now, that doesn't happen.  There doesn't
> seem to be a way to see the shooting mode in the dark without going to the
> idiot screen on the back that shows everything, shines in your face and runs
> the battery down.  Am I missing a menu item to show that info?
>
>
> Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>> I'm sharing this because it just bit me. I was using AF-C mode and it
>> disabled the autofocus assist light. It also seems to disable the flash.
>>
>> Despite doing the software upgrade a few weeks ago, my metz 58 is still
>> not working with the K-1. On the K-5 it shows PTTL, but on the K-1, just
>> TTL, and seems to always fire at full power.
>>
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Re: Process & Scan

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And that was supposed to be in response to Collin not John. Sorry about that.

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Re: Process & Scan

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They are west coast but, North Coast Photo Services (NCPS). The same
place Ken Rockwell recommends. Their work is professional and top
notch. Their pricing is fairly reasonable too.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Collin Brendemuehl
 wrote:
>>Let me know if you find one. The lab that I used to use for E6 stopped
>
>>doing it. They only do C41 & traditional B now.
>
>>
>
>>Plus, they lost their lease & I don't know if they're going to reopen in
>
>>a new location or not.
>
>
>
> John,
>
> I was just steered to this lab.
>
> http://www.dodgechrome.com/services/wetlab/
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Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

[Zos Xavius]

$2 a minute seems pretty reasonable really. I love the 8mm to 5d
capture idea though. That makes me want to go make one and offer
capture services myself lol.

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Jos de Fotograaf
 wrote:
> Thanks Steve, that are some very interesting links, showing good results
> with Canon dslr.
>
> Making my own telecine machine would be a very interesting project, but I
> have several very interesting projects waiting for me to have time..
>
> I am getting more and more facts on the table to understand pros and cons of
> the different systems,
>
> Out sourcing will cost here (in Holland) around 2 USD per minute, if that is
> cheap or not will depend on how many minutes I will have to transfer.
>
> To decide what I want to transfer, I will have to project and watch any how
> for several hours, I intend to use that time to copy directly from the
> screen and to see if flicker and banding problems can be solved.
>
> Greetz, Jos
>
>
> On 27-Nov-16 11:02, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>>
>> If you like fettling with small LEDs and disemboweling lenses, this is
>> an ingenious method for  making your own telecine machine:
>>
>> 
>>
>> blog:
>>
>> > to-digital-with-the-canon-eos-5d-mark-ii/>
>>
>>
>> This thread may also be of interest:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
>
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Re: FWIW

[Zos Xavius]

Damn, That should be first place. :)

On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 11:52 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> Thanks Bob, Paul, Christine, Daniel, Ann, Malcolm, Jack, Marco, Paul in MKE,
> Stan, Eric, Philip, Alan and John for looking and commenting.
>
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
> - Original Message - From: "Bob W-PDML" 
> Subject: Re: FWIW
>
>
>
>> That's a really spectacular shot, well deserving of a prize.
>>
>> B
>>
>>>
>>> Ken Waller wrote:
>>>
>>> Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out
>>> of
>>> approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome'
>>> sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi !
>>>
>>> Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812
>>> I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so
>>> thankful for clean air !
>>>
>>> Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King
>>> Cobra
>>> gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 ED
>>> and
>>> perfected in PS.
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Re: Scene Analyze mode

[Zos Xavius]

It is an improved green mode. Green mode only supports jpeg last I
checked. The deep learning is just marketing. They used some deep
learning to come up with some better guesses on what settings to use.
Big whoop. I would say you are far better off without this.

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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

[Zos Xavius]

I would think Oracle has an installer for Java for MacOS. If Apple
bundles Java then it is probably their own flavor. Personally I would
rather use official java. Microsoft used to have its own java stack
and it was terrible.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> I'm not sure this is true, yet.
>
> What is true is that macOS Sierra does not ship with the Java engine in 
> place, which PS CS5 depends upon. However, there is now a Java download for 
> macOS Sierra ... with that installed, PSCS5 should work. I might try it when 
> I get back to my desk.
>
> G
>
>> On Nov 23, 2016, at 11:39 AM, David Mann  wrote:
>>
>> From what I've read CS5 is not compatible with MacOS Sierra.
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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

[Zos Xavius]

Ooh. Yeah I think you are right. I have windows 10 here and do
not have any backwards compatibility issues asides from a few old
windows9x games.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 2:39 PM, David Mann <dmann...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From what I've read CS5 is not compatible with MacOS Sierra.
>
> On Nov 23, 2016, at 5:45 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just get the serial number for the installation of CS5 and reinstall
>> when you upgrade your OS. Pretty easy really.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:07 PM, David Mann <dmann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 23, 2016, at 4:26 AM, John <sesso...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's not a bad deal except that I'm still pissed off at Adobe announcing
>>>> they were no longer supporting CS6 right after I shelled out $650 for
>>>> the upgrade (CS6 Extended, because there was no CS6 Standard available).
>>>
>>> I feel some of your pain; I'm running CS5 so I can't upgrade my OS until I 
>>> switch to CC.  I'd better get onto it while the exchange rate is in my 
>>> favour (assuming it still is).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave
>>>
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Re: K-1 buffer question answered, maybe

[Zos Xavius]

Even with a fast card its buffer is pretty limited. Its about as deep
as the buffer on the k-7, so like 13 raws or so. The K-3 has something
like a 28 shot buffer in comparison. Its pretty likely they used the
same amount of memory in both cameras.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:19 PM, Stanley Halpin
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> Catching up after a few weeks away. I did browse my PDML mail box but was 
> limited by connectivity etc. so seldom posted.  One thread I had noted from 
> earlier involved a discussion between Larry and Bill as to whether it was 
> feasible to increase the buffer speed of the K-1 thorough careful management 
> of the trigger finger. (Or maybe it was the middle finger they were talking 
> about? I have long since deleted the thread…) I think the thread started with 
> a question about SDHC speed and its implications for K-1 performance.
>
> Anyway, OT, I just came across a link of Facebook to the Ricoh Japan FAQ 
> section of their Support site.
>
> http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/qa/k-1/index.html
>
> Q:  Does the performance of the SD Memory Card used affect the shooting 
> interval or other functions of the camera?
> A:  When using SD Memory Cards with slow transfer rates, the start-up time, 
> the number of images for continuous shooting, and the continuous movie 
> recording time may be affected.
>
>
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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

[Zos Xavius]

Just get the serial number for the installation of CS5 and reinstall
when you upgrade your OS. Pretty easy really.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:07 PM, David Mann  wrote:
> On Nov 23, 2016, at 4:26 AM, John  wrote:
>
>> It's not a bad deal except that I'm still pissed off at Adobe announcing
>> they were no longer supporting CS6 right after I shelled out $650 for
>> the upgrade (CS6 Extended, because there was no CS6 Standard available).
>
> I feel some of your pain; I'm running CS5 so I can't upgrade my OS until I 
> switch to CC.  I'd better get onto it while the exchange rate is in my favour 
> (assuming it still is).
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

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Oh and I forgot that adobe now has k-1 and k-3 ii profiles built in as
well. So you aren't stuck with just adobe standard or embedded
anymore. You can pick natural, portrait, etc. I rarely use anything
other than reversal film (which sadly isn't supported) so the profiles
are pretty useless to me. The portrait and natural ones aren't bad
though.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 2:08 AM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes you can just convert pef to dng with the dng converter. Or you can
> shoot DNG and just open the raw. Do note that the K-1 has a bunch of
> advanced features that the older camera raw does not support like
> multiple area white balance. In the latest lightroom, it works with
> the K-3 or at least it doesn't shift to green anymore. Lightroom also
> has the latest adobe profile for the K-1 where the older camera raw
> you are stuck with just embedded. I use embedded usually myself, so
> maybe that's not a big deal. Skin tones can be better sometimes under
> adobe's profile though.
>
> Right now there is a deal for $8 a month for lightroom and photoshop
> CC. Not a bad deal really. Then again if you are running a computer
> that still has CS6 it might be time to upgrade. My older i5 laptop
> struggles with k-3 files even.
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/18/2016 1:06 PM, jtainter wrote:
>>>
>>> I am expecting my K-1 to arrive later today. Can someone tell me if
>>> Photoshop CS6 will recognize PEF files from the K-1? Or should I shoot in
>>> DNG format?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The K1 PEF is not supported. Adobe ended support for CS6 Camera Raw with the
>> July 29 2015 release of ACR 9.1.1.
>> Users of the K1 either need to shoot DNG or use the Adobe DNG converter on
>> your PEFs and end up with a DNG file anyway.
>>
>> I started shooting DNG with the K10 because Adobe was slow to update ACR and
>> have continued to shoot that format. I see no reason to not shoot DNG files
>> if you are using Adobe products.
>>
>>
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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

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Yes you can just convert pef to dng with the dng converter. Or you can
shoot DNG and just open the raw. Do note that the K-1 has a bunch of
advanced features that the older camera raw does not support like
multiple area white balance. In the latest lightroom, it works with
the K-3 or at least it doesn't shift to green anymore. Lightroom also
has the latest adobe profile for the K-1 where the older camera raw
you are stuck with just embedded. I use embedded usually myself, so
maybe that's not a big deal. Skin tones can be better sometimes under
adobe's profile though.

Right now there is a deal for $8 a month for lightroom and photoshop
CC. Not a bad deal really. Then again if you are running a computer
that still has CS6 it might be time to upgrade. My older i5 laptop
struggles with k-3 files even.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 11/18/2016 1:06 PM, jtainter wrote:
>>
>> I am expecting my K-1 to arrive later today. Can someone tell me if
>> Photoshop CS6 will recognize PEF files from the K-1? Or should I shoot in
>> DNG format?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>
> The K1 PEF is not supported. Adobe ended support for CS6 Camera Raw with the
> July 29 2015 release of ACR 9.1.1.
> Users of the K1 either need to shoot DNG or use the Adobe DNG converter on
> your PEFs and end up with a DNG file anyway.
>
> I started shooting DNG with the K10 because Adobe was slow to update ACR and
> have continued to shoot that format. I see no reason to not shoot DNG files
> if you are using Adobe products.
>
>
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Re: Enablement, thy name is......

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LMAO

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 11:56 AM, P.J. Alling
 wrote:
> It's Lomo.  They'll probably tell you not getting the plain Waterhouse stops
> is a feature.
>
> On 11/20/2016 9:14 AM, mike wilson wrote:
>>
>> Ho hum.  This beast uses Waterhouse style aperture plates.  It's supposed
>> to
>> come with a set of plain plates, a set of "specially designed" plates to
>> produce
>> "deep, textured backgrounds rarely achieved in photography" and another
>> set of
>> plates in heart, snowflake and other vomit-inducing shapes.
>>
>> I have two sets of specially designed, one set of vomit and no plain.
>> Bugger.
>>   Overwhelming backgrounds r me.  Message sent to Lomography but they
>> probably
>> won't pick it up until tomorrow.
>>
>> If I get time later on, I'll rattle a few frames off and post a zip file
>> on
>> Dropbox or somewhere for people to peruse at full strength.
>>
>> If its photographic capabilities live up to its fondling ones, it should
>> be
>> stunning.
>>
>>> On 17 November 2016 at 19:12 mike wilson  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> ..Frustration!
>>>
>>> My K-mount Lomo Daguerrotype lens arrived.  Beautifully packaged, it
>>> looks
>>> magnificent in its little plastic bag with a sachet of dessicant.  It
>>> weighs a
>>> lot, too.
>>>
>>> It is also ice cold and, being solid brass except for the glass bits, I'm
>>> going
>>> to have to wait until it's up to room temperature.
>>>
>>> Can you hear my drumming fingers?
>
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Re: Need help from US based PDMLer

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Good good :)

On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 1:54 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Thanks to almost instantaneous reaction of certain list member, the plot is
> underway :-).
>
> On 6 Nov 2016 20:50, "Boris Liberman"  wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I'd like to buy a certain gift to my younger daughter for her
>> birthday. Unfortunately, the manufacturer of the said gift does not
>> offer shipping to Israel.
>>
>> If you'd be so inclined to buy this gift on my behalf and then send it
>> across, I'd be most grateful. Naturally, all the money will be covered
>> by me.
>>
>> Please reply off-list.
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Re: Need help from US based PDMLer

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whoops that was supposed to be off list lol. the offer stands. ;)

On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If bob cannot, I would gladly. I'm going to guess you are already
> sorted though.
>
> On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Bob Sullivan <rf.sulli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> We can do this for you Boris. Your friend Bob
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Boris Liberman <bori...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I'd like to buy a certain gift to my younger daughter for her
>>> birthday. Unfortunately, the manufacturer of the said gift does not
>>> offer shipping to Israel.
>>>
>>> If you'd be so inclined to buy this gift on my behalf and then send it
>>> across, I'd be most grateful. Naturally, all the money will be covered
>>> by me.
>>>
>>> Please reply off-list.
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Re: Need help from US based PDMLer

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If bob cannot, I would gladly. I'm going to guess you are already
sorted though.

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>
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>> Hi!
>>
>> I'd like to buy a certain gift to my younger daughter for her
>> birthday. Unfortunately, the manufacturer of the said gift does not
>> offer shipping to Israel.
>>
>> If you'd be so inclined to buy this gift on my behalf and then send it
>> across, I'd be most grateful. Naturally, all the money will be covered
>> by me.
>>
>> Please reply off-list.
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Re: Canon Pixma Pro 100

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Side note you *can* set a timer where it will turn off after a period
of time. I think it still wakes itself up to do cleanings though. I
set this and it has never turned off, but after reading a bit it seems
the automatic shutoff doesn't work when you use the printer
wirelessly. Oh yeah, it does wireless printing. Kind of nice. I just
leave it on. I would imagine its power draw in standby is pretty low.
Canon mentioned it having a deep sleep mode that it sinks into.

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think it self cleans maybe once or twice a week. It doesn't seem to
> use hardly any ink for self cleanings. I know for experience with the
> 9500 that if you initiate a purge it goes through a lot more ink than
> a self clean. I've only had on turned on for a week now and I've
> noticed one self clean after a print I made yesterday. Though it might
> have done so when I was sleeping or not at home as well. I'll let you
> know how this thing works out long term. From what I have read from
> other users it doesn't seem to use hardly any ink during self
> cleanings over a period of time. I would definitely recommend just
> leaving it on and letting the printer maintain itself.
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ah, thanks, Zos.
>>
>> So would you say that maintenance is low as long as you just leave it
>> on? My fear with ink jet technology has always been that you need to
>> futz with them more often than is worthwhile if you don't print
>> constantly. I suspect I'd only print a small number every couple of
>> weeks.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Bruce,
>>>
>>> You can get 4 cart packs with an extra black cartridge for $65 USD.
>>>
>>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O==909117=CjwKEAjwwOvABRC08aedoZ_lnTMSJACs_cbuupbY7p_V98Us5K4ArMYpKfAufPrKl8J8paKBqTF6zBoC23Lw_wcB=REG=y=Y=1876%2C92051678762%2C==details
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Thanks for that write-up, Zos. Great info.
>>>>
>>>> Can the black ink sets be purchased separately?
>>>>
>>>> Pigment inks are generally considered archival. Are dye inks?  (I
>>>> guess that's Paul's question rephrased.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I ended up stealing one of these for $100. They retail for $400
>>>>> currently. I also snagged 50 sheets of 13x19 canon satin paper in the
>>>>> mix. I've done a few test prints now and I am very impressed. Unlike
>>>>> the Epson and older Canon printers this one uses dye ink and man is it
>>>>> vivid. If you want to print stuff that looks like slide film this is
>>>>> the printer for you. I haven't tried any skin tones yet, so I'll maybe
>>>>> follow up this post when I print a few portraits from it. The review
>>>>> on imaging resource is looking pretty bad really. I think this printer
>>>>> is a lot better than what they present. I don't really know what
>>>>> settings they were using, but when you run your images through their
>>>>> plugin it seems to do a very good job with color using the stock
>>>>> profiles. The black and white I printed on canon paper seemed fairly
>>>>> neutral when I looked at it in direct sunlight. I actually print
>>>>> things for a living and have used large format canons for some time
>>>>> and always highly recommend them. I would do the same for this
>>>>> printer. Just know that ink costs are up on this model but a full set
>>>>> is only $109 for 8 carts. Not bad really. Individuals are $16.99 I
>>>>> think, up from the $13 the older ones were. You can probably get about
>>>>> 30-40 13x19s before you start swapping ink carts and of course your
>>>>> mileage may vary. Obviously B prints will kill the three black carts
>>>>> pretty fast. One full size print didn't dent the first cartridge set,
>>>>> but a black and white definitely moved the on screen indicators a bit.
>>>>> I prints up to 13x19 which is pretty decent really. I love 11x17 so
>>>>> this is perfect for a lot of things. Borderless 13x19 looks fantastic
>>>>> though you do give up some image along the sides. You can buy 13x19
>>>>> frames too. It also prints CDs which is inter