Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Anyone tried Sogo?

2011-03-17 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Sogo indeed supports tls (and ssl) login using plain auto.

Martin

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 17.03.2011 um 17:55 schrieb Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net:

 On 03/17/2011 09:44 AM, Bharath Chari wrote:
 On 03/17/2011 09:37 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:
 On 03/17/2011 08:52 AM, Bharath Chari wrote:
 On 03/17/2011 07:42 PM, Carlos Herrera Polo wrote:
 Sogo looks excelent I should install from RPM or sources ??
 We have to make a lot of changes ?? Or not ??... Qmailtoaster is a
 great MTA... and groupware software is a plus
 
 2011/3/17 Martin Waschbuesch mar...@waschbuesch.de
 mailto:mar...@waschbuesch.de
 
 Hi guys,
 
 I have successfully installed sogo on my toaster, but there are
 some issues I still need to work on:
 
 - Auth-backend is ldap and I failed terribly at any attempt to
 have more than one mail domain reflected in the ldap tree
 - i had to manually set up the ldap tree to reflect that one domain
 
 Luckily, it still solves my immediate problem as I had a
 requirement to offer CalDAV  CardDAV support. Works like a charm!
 
  I don't even know what language(s) sogo's written in. I'm
 guessing
  the authentication part (at least) is c/c++, but it could be
  something else. Would someone like to find out?
 
  Should not be to difficult to do this, even a view might do
 the trick..
  Sogo is written in Objective-C btw..
 
  Will do some tests soon..
 
  JP
 
  My thought (after my earlier post), was to rig up a view in
 MySQL with
  appropriate field names, so as not to mess around with sogo
 code. Should
  be doable in a single domain situation. Will run tests after I
 get sogo
  set up, and post results.
 
  Bharath
 
 
 I had a doubt that Sogo may not support md5crypt, which is how the
 passwords are stored in the vpopmail database. It looks like that is the
 case.
 
 See this link:
 
 http://mail.opengroupware.org/pipermail/sogo/2010-February/005083.html
 
 I haven't found any later references that say that sogo supports
 md5crypt, so it looks like the sogo code WILL have to be patched for
 authentication against the vpopmail mysql database. Please note that the
 patch in the link may be against an earlier release.
 
 Bharath
 
 Does sogo support plain login with TLS/SSL? If so, that should work.
 
 While patching sogo is probably more attractive than patching
 vpopmail, perhaps we should make a request to have vpopmail support
 whatever it is that sogo is using. (I'm guessing digest-md5).
 
 An _ugly_ workaround would be to use stunnel. Doesn't make too much
 sense on localhost though, does it? So, cleartext from a trusted
 (localhost) connection may be the simplest way to achieve this. Initial
 thoughts only, so don't hold it against me :)
 
 Bharath
 
 -
 
 I don't have a problem using plain login w/ TLS. In fact, I would use TLS 
 with localhost as well (just so I know it works because I'd likely move it to 
 a separate host at some point).
 
 As long as TLS (or SSL, but I prefer TLS) is used, plain logins are ok, as 
 passwords are not sent in clear text over the wire this way.
 
 The only problem I see with plain logins is that passwords are stored in 
 clear text. I don't necessarily recommend this, and it can be a problem in 
 some situations. Changing this policy though is a bigger change, and should 
 be addressed on its own. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing QMT move in this 
 direction (eliminating the storing of passwords in clear text). We need to be 
 sure though that in so doing that all of the other bases (encrypted password 
 types) are covered.
 
 -- 
 -Eric 'shubes'
 
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: POP3 Authentication on CentOS 5.5 64Bit

2010-11-18 Thread Martin Waschbuesch

Hi Kevin,

removing softlimit is not a good idea as it is one of the security features 
around qmail. Please rather try setting the softlimit higher than before in 
order to find the limit you need to run stuff.
The limit you have looks too low to me. Just compiling the source package 
with '--with fedora_1164 ' on its own is not the recommended way, I guess. 
What you need is the download and install scripts in their x64 version. As 
far as I recall, the x86_64 version sets a higher softlimit by default. I am 
unsure if there are other differences (e.g. in the code for instance), but 
that may well be.
At any rate, if it works without softlimit, it will also work with a 
sufficiently high softlimit, which I recommend.


Martin

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- 
From: Kevin Qiu

Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:37 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: POP3 Authentication on CentOS 5.5 64Bit

Hello Martin,

I removed the softlimit, it works.

#exec /usr/bin/softlimit -m 4800 \
exec /usr/bin/tcpserver -v -R -c 200 0 110 \
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup $HOSTNAME \
$PASSPROG /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 21

Kevin

于 2010年11月18日 17:25, Kevin Qiu 写道:

Hello Martin,

I used 'rpmbuild --rebuild --with fedora_1164 packages*'

I compared run scripts of  pop3 and pop3-ssl , they are different. The 
pop-ssl script doesn't include 'PASSPROG=/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw'; and 
so dose imap and imap-ssl.


And the smtp which it works, its scripts include 'REQUIRE_AUTH=0',  but 
smtp-ssl and submisson doesn't work, their scripts include 
'REQUIRE_AUTH=1'


pop3/run
#!/bin/sh
PASSPROG=/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw
HOSTNAME=`hostname --fqdn`
exec /usr/bin/softlimit -m 4800 \
/usr/bin/tcpserver -v -R -c 200 0 110 \
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup $HOSTNAME \
$PASSPROG /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 21


#!/bin/sh
HOSTNAME=`hostname --fqdn`
rm -rf ./env/*;
cat /etc/courier/pop3d-ssl | /usr/bin/envconv
exec /usr/bin/envdir ./env/ \
/usr/bin/softlimit -m 4800 \
/usr/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l $HOSTNAME 0 995 \
/usr/bin/couriertls -server -tcpd \
/usr/sbin/pop3login \
/usr/bin/pop3d Maildir 21




于 2010年11月18日 16:56, Martin Waschbüsch 写道:

Ps: did you use the 64bit specific packages to install the toaster?

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 18.11.2010 um 09:00 schrieb Kevin Qiukevin_...@foxitsoftware.com:


Hello Erik,

I had built the version 5.4.32 of vpopmail, and upgraded it. It has same 
errors with pop3.  I don't know how to fix them.


I'd like to work on 64bit Linux. But it doesn't work well. There are 
some errors below.


telnet localhost 587

@40004ce4d4cb1b7f67e4 tcpserver: ok 18614 
mail.foxitsoftware.com:127.0.0.1:587 :127.0.0.1::52021
@40004ce4d4cb1b962c04 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd: error while 
loading shared libraries: libselinux.so.1: failed to map segment from 
shared object: Cannot allocate memory


cat /var/qmail/supervise/submission/run |grep softlimit
exec /usr/bin/softlimit -m 4800 \

It looks same error when telnet localhost 465, but 25 work fine.

@40004ce4c31b390f4eb4 tcpserver: ok 17788 
mail.foxitsoftware.com:127.0.0.1:465 :127.0.0.1::36508
@40004ce4c31b3918fb44 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd: error while 
loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.16: failed to map segment 
from shared object: Cannot allocate memory


cat /var/qmail/supervise/smtp-ssl/run |grep softlimit
exec /usr/bin/softlimit -m 6400 \

free -m
 total   used   free sharedbuffers 
cached
Mem:  7997   1409   6587  0 47 
824

-/+ buffers/cache:537   7459
Swap:10239  0  10239

When I use mail client to connect pop3, there is an error. It can not be 
found in the logs.


/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw:error while loading shared 
libraries:libselinux.so.1:failed to map segment from shared object:

cannot allocate memory

The others ports (25, 143, 993, 995) look well. I can send and receive 
email.


Kevin

于 2010年11月18日 14:16, Kevin Qiu 写道:

Hello Erik,

I'd like try the new package. The old version doesn't work under 64bit 
Linux. Where could I download it?


Kevin

于 2010年11月12日 18:58, Eric Shubert 写道:

TTBOMK the plan is presently to jump to vpopmail 5.5 with QMTv2.

Going from 5.4.32 from 5.4.17 would be nice. It involves a database 
change, which qtp-convert is already able to handle.


I believe that Jake's too busy to take this on. If someone would like 
to update the spec file and package an SRPM, I expect that Jake would 
entertain putting it up on the site if/when people have tested it out.


Anyone care to take this on?


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: re Invalid rcpthosts client email addresses sending emails to other rcpthosts clients

2010-11-17 Thread Martin Waschbuesch

I'd like to see SPF in spamdyke.

Martin

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- 
From: Eric Shubert

Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:56 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: re Invalid rcpthosts client email addresses 
sending emails to other rcpthosts clients


That's a problem all right. I don't expect that using the submission
port would fix that either. The spfbehavior file should be separate for
the submission port to make that happen.

Ultimately, SPF should not be enforced for authenticated users. There
has been some talk about implementing SPF in spamdyke (I've been a
proponent of this). Perhaps we can nudge Sam and get it implemented
there. That would solve the problem.

--
-Eric 'shubes'

On 11/17/2010 01:44 AM, Tony White wrote:

Hi Martin,
Found a big downside to it! Clients using their mobiles
for email sending can no longer send from their mobile
isp smtp server.
Bugger thought I had it beat as well.


On 17/11/2010 6:43 PM, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:

Cool! Let us know whether it has any impact. The upside to this is
that it will be harder for spammers to use your addresses to send to
other domains as well - although it is of course possible to spoof the
ip, too.
At any rate I hope this works out for you!

Martin

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- From: Tony White
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:41 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] re Invalid rcpthosts client email
addresses sending emails to other rcpthosts clients

Hi Martin,
Thank you for that explanation. I had used the old spf web utility
to create the record you saw.
It would appear that that site is now the OLD one and the new
one does in fact do things differently now.
Thank you for your help, I have changed a single domain
as of now to test it before changing them all.

The site http://old.openspf.org/wizard.html, if you have time to look
at it,
does offer only the ~all option and if I had read the final page fully it
proves you are absolutely correct with your assessment.

Thanks again.


On 17/11/2010 5:24 PM, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:

Hi Tony,

OK, this *might* be something you should change. The way to read the
record is this:

The listed IP addresses are authorized to send mail for that domain.
All others are not.

HOWEVER, the '~all' tells recipients to treat this as a soft fail and
is supposed to be used for testing purposes. A lot of recipients will
accept mail from other hosts under this condition.

You might consider replacing it with this '-all'.

Fyi an excerpt from wikipedia:

+ for a PASS result. This can be omitted; e.g., +mx is the same as mx.
? for a NEUTRAL result interpreted like NONE (no policy).
~ for SOFTFAIL, a debugging aid between NEUTRAL and FAIL. Typically,
messages that return a SOFTFAIL are accepted but tagged.
- for FAIL, the mail should be rejected (see below).

Martin

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- From: Tony White
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 1:46 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] re Invalid rcpthosts client email
addresses sending emails to other rcpthosts clients

Hi Michael,
A dig reveals this...

ycs.com.au. 7200 IN TXT v=spf1 a mx ip4:111.223.234.146
ip4:125.168.12.213 ip4:125.168.254.24 ~all


On 16/11/2010 6:07 PM, Martin Waschbüsch wrote:

What's the SPF record say? It should list the IPs and some options...

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 16.11.2010 um 07:26 schrieb Tony Whitet...@ycs.com.au:


Hello Martin,
Thank you for your reply! I will investigate domainkeys now but the
SPF has been implemented for some time now...


On 16/11/2010 5:11 PM, Martin Waschbüsch wrote:

SPF and domainkeys can be used to do this. The policy for SPF
could be set to designating only your ip as valid and the
skim/domainkeys policy be set to 'all messages are signed'.
That should guarantee that your server will correctly identify
these mails as forgery. However, check your rules in tcp.smtp - if
one of your clients spams due to virus etc., that might bypass all
protections depending on the settings...

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 16.11.2010 um 04:43 schrieb Tony Whitet...@ycs.com.au:


Hello,
Is there a way of verifying the From address that claims to be
from one of the domains
hosted here is a valid email address? There has been an increase
of spam using one or
more the domains hosted on my servers.
I am still searching the web but no searches found yet!

--

best wishes
Tony White


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Maximim message size

2010-11-16 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
One question I always had about it is this: does it set the limit for the 
actual mail as it is being transmitted (e.g. with base64 encoded attachment) 
or for the decoded mail+message parts?
Because a typical scenario is that a client asks to be able to send 20M 
attachments. due to encoding, do I have to set databytes to (roughly) 1.5 x 
20M = 30M or to 20M?


Martin

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From: Jake Vickers

Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 8:37 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Maximim message size

On 11/15/2010 01:53 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 11/15/2010 11:40 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote:

What's the maximum recommended message size?  Is there any negative
impact to making it unlimited?

CJ



I don't know of a way to make it unlimited. I don't think you'd want to do 
that anyhow. There are always limits, whether they're specified or not. ;)


You can however make it fairly large. I've made it up to 50M in some 
cases. The drawback is that scan times on submissions of large messages 
can result in timeouts. You should increase your timeout settings (server 
and clients) if you bump it up much.




In the databytes file, if you enter a 0 (zero) this will set the max
message size to no limit.
The default is 20971520, or about 20M. There are some concerns with this
and the main issue comes into play in that you have no idea how large of
an email the remote will accept. If you set this to 100M, you could for
example, send me a 100M email, but I will bounce it due to it being over
20M in size. Different providers have different limits. I know at one
time years ago Hotmail was set to 6M, then they upped it to 10M. Not
sure what their current is.

We have some good information on the wiki on the databytes file:
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Databytes


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Maximim message size

2010-11-16 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hm... the wiki says it counts bytes as stored on the disk - so I guess that 
is in encoded format and thus I'd have to use 30M in my example...

Can anyone confirm?

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- 
From: Martin Waschbuesch

Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:24 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Maximim message size

One question I always had about it is this: does it set the limit for the
actual mail as it is being transmitted (e.g. with base64 encoded attachment)
or for the decoded mail+message parts?
Because a typical scenario is that a client asks to be able to send 20M
attachments. due to encoding, do I have to set databytes to (roughly) 1.5 x
20M = 30M or to 20M?

Martin

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- 
From: Jake Vickers

Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 8:37 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Maximim message size

On 11/15/2010 01:53 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 11/15/2010 11:40 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote:

What's the maximum recommended message size?  Is there any negative
impact to making it unlimited?

CJ



I don't know of a way to make it unlimited. I don't think you'd want to do 
that anyhow. There are always limits, whether they're specified or not. ;)


You can however make it fairly large. I've made it up to 50M in some 
cases. The drawback is that scan times on submissions of large messages 
can result in timeouts. You should increase your timeout settings (server 
and clients) if you bump it up much.




In the databytes file, if you enter a 0 (zero) this will set the max
message size to no limit.
The default is 20971520, or about 20M. There are some concerns with this
and the main issue comes into play in that you have no idea how large of
an email the remote will accept. If you set this to 100M, you could for
example, send me a 100M email, but I will bounce it due to it being over
20M in size. Different providers have different limits. I know at one
time years ago Hotmail was set to 6M, then they upped it to 10M. Not
sure what their current is.

We have some good information on the wiki on the databytes file:
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Databytes


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Re: [qmailtoaster] re Invalid rcpthosts client email addresses sending emails to other rcpthosts clients

2010-11-16 Thread Martin Waschbuesch

Hi Tony,

OK, this *might* be something you should change. The way to read the record 
is this:


The listed IP addresses are authorized to send mail for that domain.
All others are not.

HOWEVER, the  '~all' tells recipients to treat this as a soft fail and is 
supposed to be used for testing purposes. A lot of recipients will accept 
mail from other hosts under this condition.


You might consider replacing it with this '-all'.

Fyi an excerpt from wikipedia:

+ for a PASS result. This can be omitted; e.g., +mx is the same as mx.
? for a NEUTRAL result interpreted like NONE (no policy).
~ for SOFTFAIL, a debugging aid between NEUTRAL and FAIL. Typically, 
messages that return a SOFTFAIL are accepted but tagged.

- for FAIL, the mail should be rejected (see below).

Martin

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- 
From: Tony White

Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 1:46 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] re Invalid rcpthosts client email addresses 
sending emails to other rcpthosts clients


Hi Michael,
  A dig reveals this...

ycs.com.au. 7200IN  TXT v=spf1 a mx 
ip4:111.223.234.146 ip4:125.168.12.213 ip4:125.168.254.24 ~all



On 16/11/2010 6:07 PM, Martin Waschbüsch wrote:

What's the SPF record say? It should list the IPs and some options...

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 16.11.2010 um 07:26 schrieb Tony Whitet...@ycs.com.au:


Hello Martin,
  Thank you for your reply! I will investigate domainkeys now but the
SPF has been implemented for some time now...


On 16/11/2010 5:11 PM, Martin Waschbüsch wrote:
SPF and domainkeys can be used to do this. The policy for SPF could be 
set to designating only your ip as valid and the skim/domainkeys policy 
be set to 'all messages are signed'.
That should guarantee that your server will correctly identify these 
mails as forgery. However, check your rules in tcp.smtp - if one of your 
clients spams due to virus etc., that might bypass all protections 
depending on the settings...


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 16.11.2010 um 04:43 schrieb Tony Whitet...@ycs.com.au:


Hello,
  Is there a way of verifying the From address that claims to be from 
one of the domains
hosted here is a valid email address? There has been an increase of 
spam using one or

more the domains hosted on my servers.
  I am still searching the web but no searches found yet!

--

best wishes
  Tony White


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Re: [qmailtoaster] re Invalid rcpthosts client email addresses sending emails to other rcpthosts clients

2010-11-16 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Cool! Let us know whether it has any impact. The upside to this is that it 
will be harder for spammers to use your addresses to send to other domains 
as well - although it is of course possible to spoof the ip, too.

At any rate I hope this works out for you!

Martin

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- 
From: Tony White

Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:41 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] re Invalid rcpthosts client email addresses 
sending emails to other rcpthosts clients


Hi Martin,
  Thank you for that explanation. I had used the old spf web utility
to create the record you saw.
  It would appear that that site is now the OLD one and the new
one does in fact do things differently now.
  Thank you for your help,  I have changed a single domain
as of now to test it before changing them all.

The site http://old.openspf.org/wizard.html, if you have time to look at it,
does offer only the ~all option and if I had read the final page fully it
proves you are absolutely correct with your assessment.

  Thanks again.


On 17/11/2010 5:24 PM, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:

Hi Tony,

OK, this *might* be something you should change. The way to read the 
record is this:


The listed IP addresses are authorized to send mail for that domain.
All others are not.

HOWEVER, the  '~all' tells recipients to treat this as a soft fail and is 
supposed to be used for testing purposes. A lot of recipients will accept 
mail from other hosts under this condition.


You might consider replacing it with this '-all'.

Fyi an excerpt from wikipedia:

+ for a PASS result. This can be omitted; e.g., +mx is the same as mx.
? for a NEUTRAL result interpreted like NONE (no policy).
~ for SOFTFAIL, a debugging aid between NEUTRAL and FAIL. Typically, 
messages that return a SOFTFAIL are accepted but tagged.

- for FAIL, the mail should be rejected (see below).

Martin

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- From: Tony White
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 1:46 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] re Invalid rcpthosts client email addresses 
sending emails to other rcpthosts clients


Hi Michael,
  A dig reveals this...

ycs.com.au. 7200IN  TXT v=spf1 a mx 
ip4:111.223.234.146 ip4:125.168.12.213 ip4:125.168.254.24 ~all



On 16/11/2010 6:07 PM, Martin Waschbüsch wrote:

What's the SPF record say? It should list the IPs and some options...

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 16.11.2010 um 07:26 schrieb Tony Whitet...@ycs.com.au:


Hello Martin,
  Thank you for your reply! I will investigate domainkeys now but the
SPF has been implemented for some time now...


On 16/11/2010 5:11 PM, Martin Waschbüsch wrote:
SPF and domainkeys can be used to do this. The policy for SPF could be 
set to designating only your ip as valid and the skim/domainkeys policy 
be set to 'all messages are signed'.
That should guarantee that your server will correctly identify these 
mails as forgery. However, check your rules in tcp.smtp - if one of 
your clients spams due to virus etc., that might bypass all protections 
depending on the settings...


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 16.11.2010 um 04:43 schrieb Tony Whitet...@ycs.com.au:


Hello,
  Is there a way of verifying the From address that claims to be from 
one of the domains
hosted here is a valid email address? There has been an increase of 
spam using one or

more the domains hosted on my servers.
  I am still searching the web but no searches found yet!

--

best wishes
  Tony White


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Disable CHKUSER

2010-11-13 Thread Martin Waschbuesch

Hi all,

I wonder about this one... First of all, I agree with Jake that MX 
verification is rather important.
However, the problem at hand is also a nuisance: Why should one bad address 
out of 15 in the list cause all mails to not be delivered?


I guess the solution here would rather be looking at some way to solve that 
issue and leave the rest as it is, meaning that all good addresses on a list 
should be properly sent the mail and all addresses that fail MX check should 
not go out.


At any rate, disabling a complete check because the check does not do what 
it should is a poor solution. Rather fix the real issue...


So, can someone isolate where that problem has its root and then we could 
figure out how to address the underlying issue? My guess would be someone 
would have to either look at the code for checkuser or take it up with the 
vpopmail mailing list?


I'd be happy to attempt looking into this...

Martin


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- 
From: Jake Vickers

Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 2:10 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Disable CHKUSER

On 11/12/2010 07:15 PM, Michael Colvin wrote:



On 11/12/2010 12:38 PM, Michael Colvin wrote:

OK…  So, I’ve got some clients that send mails out to affiliates of
theirs via rather large distribution lists. When at least one, maybe
more, of those addresses are bad, they get the “Sorry, can’t find a
valid MX for rcpt domain” bounce that, basically is bouncing the whole
message, so even the valid recipients don’t get the e-mail.

I’ve searched the archives, particularly:
http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-

list%40qmailtoaster.com/msg27066.html,

and haven’t really found anything that helps…Unless I’m doing something
wrong…

I’ve tried removing the references to CHKUSER_RCPT_MX in tcp.smtp, then
issued qmailctl cdb, same issue. I tried setting CHKUSER_RCPT_MX=””, and
CHKUSER_RCPT-MX=”0”… Nothing. Tried setting
CHKUSER_STARTING_VARIABLE=”NONE”…No change.

I’ve read where the default CHKUSER config is to have these commented
out, but it appears that this isn’t the QMT default, per the linked
thread above.

How do I go about commenting these out in CHKUSER’s config, and then
“Rebuild” QMT? I installed from the CentOS 5 ISO.

I simply don’t want to check the MX for any e-mail on these particular
servers…I’d rather the client get bounces for those e-mails, so they can
clean up their lists.



http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Chkuser
;)

--
-Eric 'shubes'



Thanks Eric...Not sure how I missed that...I know I dug around on the Wiki
during my searches...

Tossing my .02 into the earlier thread that I linked too, I would agree 
with

your comment that these settings should be something that are Enabled in
tcp.smtp...  That would be more User friendly.

Another item for Jake's already full to-do list.  :-)



And also one I disagree with. We've had some discussion (and argument)
on this topic several times.
If you look at the number of downloads versus questions concerning
modifying chkuser, one out of every (roughly) 5000 people wants to
modify it (and almost ALWAYS to work around an issue such as this -
laziness on someone elses part). Now this number is small,
comparatively. If the setting gets added to the tcp.smtp file, now we're
exposing those other 4999 people to potentially turning an option they
want on off, or stopping mail flow, from a typo in their tcp.smtp file.
For the record, I am completely against changing this option. I think a
MX check SHOULD be mandatory, for many reasons.

Now, to stop the flame war that will ensue, the new version will use the
default chkuser settings. All other options will need to be enabled in
the tcp.smtp file or recompiled in.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Disable CHKUSER

2010-11-13 Thread Martin Waschbuesch

I meant chkuser mailing list... I am not completely awake it seems...

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- 
From: Martin Waschbuesch

Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 3:04 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Disable CHKUSER

Hi all,

I wonder about this one... First of all, I agree with Jake that MX
verification is rather important.
However, the problem at hand is also a nuisance: Why should one bad address
out of 15 in the list cause all mails to not be delivered?

I guess the solution here would rather be looking at some way to solve that
issue and leave the rest as it is, meaning that all good addresses on a list
should be properly sent the mail and all addresses that fail MX check should
not go out.

At any rate, disabling a complete check because the check does not do what
it should is a poor solution. Rather fix the real issue...

So, can someone isolate where that problem has its root and then we could
figure out how to address the underlying issue? My guess would be someone
would have to either look at the code for checkuser or take it up with the
vpopmail mailing list?

I'd be happy to attempt looking into this...

Martin


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From: Jake Vickers

Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 2:10 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Disable CHKUSER

On 11/12/2010 07:15 PM, Michael Colvin wrote:



On 11/12/2010 12:38 PM, Michael Colvin wrote:

OK…  So, I’ve got some clients that send mails out to affiliates of
theirs via rather large distribution lists. When at least one, maybe
more, of those addresses are bad, they get the “Sorry, can’t find a
valid MX for rcpt domain” bounce that, basically is bouncing the whole
message, so even the valid recipients don’t get the e-mail.

I’ve searched the archives, particularly:
http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-

list%40qmailtoaster.com/msg27066.html,

and haven’t really found anything that helps…Unless I’m doing something
wrong…

I’ve tried removing the references to CHKUSER_RCPT_MX in tcp.smtp, then
issued qmailctl cdb, same issue. I tried setting CHKUSER_RCPT_MX=””, and
CHKUSER_RCPT-MX=”0”… Nothing. Tried setting
CHKUSER_STARTING_VARIABLE=”NONE”…No change.

I’ve read where the default CHKUSER config is to have these commented
out, but it appears that this isn’t the QMT default, per the linked
thread above.

How do I go about commenting these out in CHKUSER’s config, and then
“Rebuild” QMT? I installed from the CentOS 5 ISO.

I simply don’t want to check the MX for any e-mail on these particular
servers…I’d rather the client get bounces for those e-mails, so they can
clean up their lists.



http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Chkuser
;)

--
-Eric 'shubes'



Thanks Eric...Not sure how I missed that...I know I dug around on the Wiki
during my searches...

Tossing my .02 into the earlier thread that I linked too, I would agree 
with

your comment that these settings should be something that are Enabled in
tcp.smtp...  That would be more User friendly.

Another item for Jake's already full to-do list.  :-)



And also one I disagree with. We've had some discussion (and argument)
on this topic several times.
If you look at the number of downloads versus questions concerning
modifying chkuser, one out of every (roughly) 5000 people wants to
modify it (and almost ALWAYS to work around an issue such as this -
laziness on someone elses part). Now this number is small,
comparatively. If the setting gets added to the tcp.smtp file, now we're
exposing those other 4999 people to potentially turning an option they
want on off, or stopping mail flow, from a typo in their tcp.smtp file.
For the record, I am completely against changing this option. I think a
MX check SHOULD be mandatory, for many reasons.

Now, to stop the flame war that will ensue, the new version will use the
default chkuser settings. All other options will need to be enabled in
the tcp.smtp file or recompiled in.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] iptables firewall issue

2010-11-12 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi Scott,

Perhaps if you still have the install kickstart file for the CentOS 
installation in /root/anaconda-ks.cfg we could compare the settings?
If it is running CentOS that is...

Martin

From: Scott Hughes 
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 3:44 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] iptables firewall issue

Martin,

The problem turned out to be in the rc.local file. It was loading the basic QMT 
firewall settings instead of firewalll setting in the iptables file.  Once I 
commented out that line in the rc.local file, it worked perfect (survived the 
reboot process).

I have two QMT boxes that had the same issue. I still have figured out why it 
is set up this way.  There is no point in running the firewall.sh script if it 
is just going to be ignored the next time the system reboots.

Scott


2010/11/11 Martin Waschbuesch mar...@waschbuesch.de

  Hi Scott,

  The important file for iptables which will be loaded at startup is in  
  /etc/sysconfig/iptables

  It is basically the same information you have in the firewall script, but in 
a slightly different syntax. Perhaps you need to check if that file is on the 
system and has valid content?

  It should look something like this:

  # Generated by iptables-save v1.3.5 on Thu Sep  9 17:00:22 2010
  *filter
  :INPUT DROP [0:0]
  :FORWARD DROP [0:0]
  :OUTPUT DROP [12:1444]
  -A INPUT -i eth0 -f -j DROP
  -A INPUT -s 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
  -A INPUT -s 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
  -A INPUT -s 172.16.0.0/255.240.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
  -A INPUT -s 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
  -A INPUT -s 224.0.0.0/240.0.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
  -A INPUT -s 240.0.0.0/240.0.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
  -A INPUT -s 0.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
  -A INPUT -s 255.255.255.255 -i ! lo -j DROP
  -A INPUT -s 169.254.0.0/255.255.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
  -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 25 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 110 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 113 -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 143 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 443 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 587 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 993 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 995 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 5667 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p icmp -m state --state NEW,RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
  -A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT
  -A OUTPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
  -A OUTPUT -p udp -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
  -A OUTPUT -p icmp -m state --state NEW,RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
  COMMIT
  # Completed on Thu Sep  9 17:00:22 2010

  From: Scott Hughes 
  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 5:40 PM
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
  Subject: [qmailtoaster] iptables firewall issue

  All, 

  I continue to have strange firewall issues.  The iptables firewall is acting 
normal EXCEPT when the system gets restarted.  Then it is like it goes back to 
some default setting and I have log into the console and manually run the 
firewall.sh script.  The script automatically saves the settings with 'service 
iptables save' and I have run this manually as well. Still having the same 
issue.

  Anyone out there have any ideas that might save my firewall settings though 
restarts/reboots?

  Thanks,
  Scott



Re: [qmailtoaster] iptables firewall issue

2010-11-12 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi Helmut,

I wonder if it has something to do with the way that CentOS was installed: The 
ISO starts out with the firewall being disabled and in addition to the 
configuration options that the firewall.sh script adds, I am not sure what 
method is used to enable the service to run at startup (though it is as easy as 
using ‘service iptables start’ to start it once and using ‘chkconfig iptables 
on’ to enable it to run on startup).
My iptables config had been installed during initial setup and though that is 
just a hunch, I believe that there may be a difference between having the 
system installed with the firewall enabled and enabling it afterwards (though 
that should not be the case?).
Also, the latest ISO is not using the latest CentOS – did you do any yum update 
stuff to bring it up to date? If so, did you have those problems before and 
after or just after the update?
I am sure we’ll get to the bottom of this eventually. I never used the ISO and 
I never had firewall trouble (other than when I configured it the wrong way  
myself).
Steve, did you use the ISO or install using the wiki instructions?

I am sort of hoping you used the ISO so that we might have something to focus 
our research on!

Martin
From: Helmut Fritz 
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 6:55 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] iptables firewall issue

i have the same issue with mine, and the -restore command was in my rc.local.  
i have attached my anaconda-ks.cfg.  i installed from QMT.iso, not sure if that 
matters.  maybe this helps.

Helmut



From: Martin Waschbuesch [mailto:mar...@waschbuesch.de] 
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 9:21 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] iptables firewall issue


Hi Scott,

Perhaps if you still have the install kickstart file for the CentOS 
installation in /root/anaconda-ks.cfg we could compare the settings?
If it is running CentOS that is...

Martin

From: Scott Hughes 
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 3:44 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] iptables firewall issue

Martin,

The problem turned out to be in the rc.local file. It was loading the basic QMT 
firewall settings instead of firewalll setting in the iptables file.  Once I 
commented out that line in the rc.local file, it worked perfect (survived the 
reboot process).

I have two QMT boxes that had the same issue. I still have figured out why it 
is set up this way.  There is no point in running the firewall.sh script if it 
is just going to be ignored the next time the system reboots.

Scott


2010/11/11 Martin Waschbuesch mar...@waschbuesch.de

  Hi Scott,

  The important file for iptables which will be loaded at startup is in  
  /etc/sysconfig/iptables

  It is basically the same information you have in the firewall script, but in 
a slightly different syntax. Perhaps you need to check if that file is on the 
system and has valid content?

  It should look something like this:

  # Generated by iptables-save v1.3.5 on Thu Sep  9 17:00:22 2010
  *filter
  :INPUT DROP [0:0]
  :FORWARD DROP [0:0]
  :OUTPUT DROP [12:1444]
  -A INPUT -i eth0 -f -j DROP
  -A INPUT -s 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
  -A INPUT -s 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
  -A INPUT -s 172.16.0.0/255.240.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
  -A INPUT -s 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
  -A INPUT -s 224.0.0.0/240.0.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
  -A INPUT -s 240.0.0.0/240.0.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
  -A INPUT -s 0.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
  -A INPUT -s 255.255.255.255 -i ! lo -j DROP
  -A INPUT -s 169.254.0.0/255.255.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
  -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 25 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 110 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 113 -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 143 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 443 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 587 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 993 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 995 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 5667 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -p icmp -m state --state NEW,RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
  -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
  -A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT
  -A OUTPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
  -A OUTPUT -p udp -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
  -A OUTPUT -p icmp -m state

Re: [qmailtoaster] iptables firewall issue

2010-11-11 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi Scott,

The important file for iptables which will be loaded at startup is in  
/etc/sysconfig/iptables

It is basically the same information you have in the firewall script, but in a 
slightly different syntax. Perhaps you need to check if that file is on the 
system and has valid content?

It should look something like this:

# Generated by iptables-save v1.3.5 on Thu Sep  9 17:00:22 2010
*filter
:INPUT DROP [0:0]
:FORWARD DROP [0:0]
:OUTPUT DROP [12:1444]
-A INPUT -i eth0 -f -j DROP
-A INPUT -s 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
-A INPUT -s 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
-A INPUT -s 172.16.0.0/255.240.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
-A INPUT -s 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
-A INPUT -s 224.0.0.0/240.0.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
-A INPUT -s 240.0.0.0/240.0.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
-A INPUT -s 0.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
-A INPUT -s 255.255.255.255 -i ! lo -j DROP
-A INPUT -s 169.254.0.0/255.255.0.0 -i ! lo -j DROP
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 25 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 110 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 113 -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 143 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 443 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 587 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 993 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 995 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 5667 --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p icmp -m state --state NEW,RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -m state --state NEW -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
-A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -p udp -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -p icmp -m state --state NEW,RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
COMMIT
# Completed on Thu Sep  9 17:00:22 2010

From: Scott Hughes 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 5:40 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Subject: [qmailtoaster] iptables firewall issue

All, 

I continue to have strange firewall issues.  The iptables firewall is acting 
normal EXCEPT when the system gets restarted.  Then it is like it goes back to 
some default setting and I have log into the console and manually run the 
firewall.sh script.  The script automatically saves the settings with 'service 
iptables save' and I have run this manually as well. Still having the same 
issue.

Anyone out there have any ideas that might save my firewall settings though 
restarts/reboots?

Thanks,
Scott


Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: vpopmail field problem

2010-10-15 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Several packages depend on vpopmail and recompiling it may require you to 
recompile the other packages, too? E.g. qmailadmin - don't know about 
others. Also, I do not know how vqadmin and qcontrol work. If they use the 
shell commands vpopmail contains then all should be well, but if they access 
the database directly, they might depend on the structure of that database.


Don't know if that helps, but it might be a starting point for debugging.

Martin

- Original Message - 
From: Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net

To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 4:48 PM
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: vpopmail field problem



On 10/15/2010 02:56 AM, Digital Instruments wrote:

Greetings list,

I have recompiled vpopmail without the damn pw_clear_passwd. I've used
the standard script cnt5064-install-script.sh and modify it like so:

if [ $PROCEED = y ]; then
rpmbuild --rebuild --with $DISTRO --with disable-clear-passwd $VPOP
rpm -Uvh /usr/src/$BDIR/RPMS/$ARCH/vpopmail-toaster*.rpm
fi



the result seems not good:

Preparing... ### [100%]
package vpopmail-toaster-5.4.17-1.3.7.x86_64 is already installed
file /home/vpopmail/bin/clearopensmtp from install of
vpopmail-toaster-5.4.17-1.3.7.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
vpopmail-toaster-5.4.17-1.3.7.x86_64
(many other lines like that)
1:vpopmail-toaster ### [ 50%]

I've also try another method:

rpm -Uhv vpopmail-toaster*.src.rpm
edited the vpopmail-toaster.spec (usually in /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/),
change line 729 from --enable-clear-passwd to --disable-clear-passwd
with a text editor.
rpmbuild -bs vpopmail-toaster.spec

that time it went to 100%
1:vpopmail-toaster ### [ 100%]

but unfortunately it doesn't work. If i try to drop the pw_clear_passwd
field from the vpopmail database i can't login with any account.
If i try to create a new account ... error (if the field is drop) or it
write the password in clear if the field isn't drop.

Anyone can help me, please?
Thanks!! A.

-


The first method (--with) does not work. The spec file needs to recognize 
these options, which it doesn't.


The second method (editing the .spec file) is correct. After building the 
rpm from source though, you need to install the binary rpm that was 
produced by the rpmbuild run:

# rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs vpopmail-toaster.*.rpm
Be sure you're in the directory where you built the binary rpm when you do 
this.


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[qmailtoaster] Dovecot stats...

2010-09-25 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi all,

Does anyone know of a good way to gather IMAP traffic statistics for dovecot? 
Ideally per domain... ;-)

Martin

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: quotas...

2010-09-24 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Ah, that is good to know! :-)

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Am 24.09.2010 um 18:34 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Hi all,
 Is my assumption correct whereby if a domain is set to quota = 8192M and its 
 users are set to NOQUOTA that there would still be an overquota message for 
 any of those users if the total for the domain has reached the limit?
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 Quotas are broken in vpopmail 5.4. They *might* be fixed as of 5.4.32 (beta). 
 They are reportedly fixed (due to major rework) in 5.5. I wouldn't waste any 
 time working wiht quotas in 5.4. I simply use NOQUOTA for everyone, and 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: sa-stats

2010-09-23 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Try this:

http://martin.waschbuesch.de/sa-stats

I fixed the code to check for NUM_EMAIL, NUM_SPAM and NUM_HAM   0 in the stats 
generation - that was indeed missing...

Cheers,

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Am 23.09.2010 um 04:19 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 Phil Leinhauser wrote:
 I have just started into tuning spamassassin on my toaster these past days.  
 I see that sa-stats gets an error:
 Illegal division by zero at /opt/qmailtoaster-plus/bin/sa-stats line
 292.
 This looks like it was addressed a couple of years ago but it appears to be 
 back again.  The error goes away if there is 0 spam as expected.  I have 2 
 sa-stats, one in /usr/sbin and one in /opt/qmailtoaster-plus/bin and they 
 both display this error.
 It's not a problem I just thought I would bring it to your attention for the 
 next update.
 Thanks,
 Phil
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Oversized message notifications

2010-09-14 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi Mike,

QMT should already be doing that.

I have a 20 MB limit and tried to send myself some oversized attachment using a 
gmail account I have:

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

mar...@waschbuesch.de

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient 
domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further 
information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server 
returned was: 552 552 sorry, that message size exceeds my databytes limit 
(#5.3.4) (state 18).

Note that I also run CentOS 5.5 (x86_64).

If you do not get such reject messages, please let us know more about your 
configuration - did you follow the installation instructions on the Wiki 10% or 
did you customize anything?

Thanks,

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Am 14.09.2010 um 08:27 schrieb Mike Canty:

 To All,
   Is it possible to send a rejected message notification is a sender
 has sent an Email with an attachment that exceeds the allowable limit?
 
 I am running QMT on CentOS 5.5
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Oversized message notifications

2010-09-14 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Just sent you a large test message - did that go through or was it rejected?

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Am 14.09.2010 um 09:37 schrieb Mike Canty:

 Martin,
   I followed the installation documentation I have run for a few years
 now, it is basically the wiki information, copied across to a document.  A
 quick look at the documentation
 (http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/CentOS_5_QmailToaster_Install) is
 pretty much exactly what I do.  This is the original script I ran and found
 it very helpful
 (http://howtoforge.org/how-to-install-qmailtoaster-centos-5.3). 
 
 I can see the oversized-reject notice in the /var/qmail/smtp/* logs, but
 there is no response back to the sender.  I tried to do the same, that is
 send one to myself, but all I saw was the log (see below).
 
 @40004c8f0dbd2556a1c4 qmail-smtpd: oversized-reject:
 MAILFROM:m...@collotype.com.au RCPTTO:m...@collotype.com.au
 
 What information could I provide you to give an understanding of where I
 have gone wrong?
 
 Cheers
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Waschbuesch [mailto:mar...@waschbuesch.de] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 14 September 2010 4:50 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Oversized message notifications
 
 Hi Mike,
 
 QMT should already be doing that.
 
 I have a 20 MB limit and tried to send myself some oversized attachment
 using a gmail account I have:
 
 Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
 
mar...@waschbuesch.de
 
 Technical details of permanent failure:
 Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient
 domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further
 information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server
 returned was: 552 552 sorry, that message size exceeds my databytes limit
 (#5.3.4) (state 18).
 
 Note that I also run CentOS 5.5 (x86_64).
 
 If you do not get such reject messages, please let us know more about your
 configuration - did you follow the installation instructions on the Wiki 10%
 or did you customize anything?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Martin
 
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 To All,
  Is it possible to send a rejected message notification is a sender
 has sent an Email with an attachment that exceeds the allowable limit?
 
 I am running QMT on CentOS 5.5
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Oversized message notifications

2010-09-14 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
I did get the following error:


Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

m...@collotype.com.au

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient 
domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further 
information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server 
returned was: 552 552 sorry, that message size exceeds my databytes limit 
(#5.3.4) (state 18).


Right now, I do not know why you would not get one... Sorry. I am sure Eric or 
Jake would have some pointers for you.

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Am 14.09.2010 um 09:37 schrieb Mike Canty:

 Martin,
   I followed the installation documentation I have run for a few years
 now, it is basically the wiki information, copied across to a document.  A
 quick look at the documentation
 (http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/CentOS_5_QmailToaster_Install) is
 pretty much exactly what I do.  This is the original script I ran and found
 it very helpful
 (http://howtoforge.org/how-to-install-qmailtoaster-centos-5.3). 
 
 I can see the oversized-reject notice in the /var/qmail/smtp/* logs, but
 there is no response back to the sender.  I tried to do the same, that is
 send one to myself, but all I saw was the log (see below).
 
 @40004c8f0dbd2556a1c4 qmail-smtpd: oversized-reject:
 MAILFROM:m...@collotype.com.au RCPTTO:m...@collotype.com.au
 
 What information could I provide you to give an understanding of where I
 have gone wrong?
 
 Cheers
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Waschbuesch [mailto:mar...@waschbuesch.de] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 14 September 2010 4:50 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Oversized message notifications
 
 Hi Mike,
 
 QMT should already be doing that.
 
 I have a 20 MB limit and tried to send myself some oversized attachment
 using a gmail account I have:
 
 Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
 
mar...@waschbuesch.de
 
 Technical details of permanent failure:
 Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient
 domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further
 information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server
 returned was: 552 552 sorry, that message size exceeds my databytes limit
 (#5.3.4) (state 18).
 
 Note that I also run CentOS 5.5 (x86_64).
 
 If you do not get such reject messages, please let us know more about your
 configuration - did you follow the installation instructions on the Wiki 10%
 or did you customize anything?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Martin
 
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 To All,
  Is it possible to send a rejected message notification is a sender
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 I am running QMT on CentOS 5.5
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] How to add the Certificate for mutil-domain

2010-09-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
As I said earlier, there is a patch that will allow qmail to use a different 
certificate based on the hostname. However, I have no experience in using it. 
But it seems to me to be the best solution (especially when you have but one IP 
address).
The patch is explicitly mentioned by the author of the original TSL patch for 
qmail, F. Vermeulen. (His site is here: http://inoa.net/qmail-tls/)

The patch is discussed here:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94257

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Am 07.09.2010 um 13:22 schrieb Jesús Arnáiz:

 As far as I know, the server only uses one certificate so you should:
 -Use only one certificate
 -Use different servers (different IP address and/or port) for each
 certificate.
 
 
 El 07/09/2010 13:10, Pak Ogah escribió:
 I am afraid I dont know the answer of it.
 I hope someone else can answer it for you
 
 
 On 02-Sep-10 9:51, Kevin Qiu wrote:
  Hi Pak,
 
 Thank you very much, Pak. I understood. I want to make sure that if I
 had already buy 2 single cert(the files like,domain1.key domain1.crt
 domain2.key domain2), I can't install them, can I?
 
 Kevin
 
 于 2010/9/1 17:06, Pak Ogah 写道:
 
 the steps are the same on 
 http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Certificate
 but on step 4 you need to get SSL Certificate that can host multiple domain
 like the one on http://www.godaddy.com/ssl/ssl-certificates.aspx?ci=8979
 
 
 On 01-Sep-10 13:28, Kevin Qiu wrote:
 
  Hi Pak,
 
 I mean I don't know how to intall.
 
 
 cat servercert.key servercert.crt  /var/qmail/control/servercert.pem
 
 if 2 certs , how can I install them, are they all in one file
 '/var/qmail/control/servercert.pem ' ?
 
 
 Kevin
 
 于 2010/8/31 18:42, Pak Ogah 写道:
 
 
 just my 2 cents
 I think you should buy SSL Certificate that can hold multi-domain and
 install that certificate
 
 On 31-Aug-10 12:31, Kevin Qiu wrote:
 
 
  Hello,
 
 I want to add the 2nd domain cert in same real server. How can I do 
 that?
 
 Kevin
 
 于 2010/8/30 23:09, Kevin Qiu 写道:
 
 
 
  Hello list,
 
 I had read the help in this URL
 http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Certificate Step 5)
 
 But I want to know how to add the Certificate for mutil-domains like
 that. The virtuel-mutl-domains were crated on the same server.
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Can't connect port 465 587

2010-09-01 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Kevin,

I think Jake did not say you needed to add memory, merely to give the smtp 
processes more memory by raising the softlimit for them.
These processes use a softlimit partly as a security precaution.

In /var/qmail/supervie/smtp/run
check what you have at the bottom. My file looks thus:

exec /usr/bin/softlimit -m 6400 \
 /usr/bin/tcpserver -v -R -h -l $HOSTNAME -x $TCP_CDB -c $MAXSMTPD \
 -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp \
 $RBLSMTPD $BLACKLIST $SMTPD $VCHKPW /bin/true 21

The value after the -m in the first line of this block describes the softlimit 
in bytes meaning that the qmail-smtp process has a soft memory limit of a bit 
more than 60M. Perhaps you need to increase this.

Same is true for the submission port. E.g. might be in 
/var/qmail/supervise/submission/run.

hope that helps to clarify!

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Am 01.09.2010 um 07:45 schrieb Kevin Qiu:

 Hello Jake,
 
 Thank you very much for your feedback.
 
 free -m
 total used free shared buffers cached
 Mem: 3950 3808 141 0 151 2690
 -/+ buffers/cache: 967 2983
 Swap: 7838 0 7838
 
 Did you mean that I need add more RAM?
 
 I had run QMT in Fedora 13 32bit without any errors.
 
 Are you sure that I need more memory and the errors can be fixed, or I
 need install 32bit linux.
 
 Kevin
 
 
 
 于 2010/8/31 23:50, Jake Vickers 写道:
 On 08/31/2010 03:21 AM, Kevin Qiu wrote:
 Hi list,
 
 QMT on Fedora 13 x86_64
 
 Build rpm with `rpmbuild --rebuild --with fedora_1164 name-version.src.rpm`
 
 telnet localhost 25
 
 Trying 127.0.0.1...
 Connected to localhost.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 220 mail.domain.com - Welcome to Qmail Toaster Ver. 1.3 SMTP Server ESMTP
 
 telnet localhost 465
 
 Trying 127.0.0.1...
 Connected to localhost.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 Connection closed by foreign host.
 
 tail /var/log/qmail/smtp-ssl/current
 @40004c7ca2eb0ed8490c /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd: error while
 loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.16: failed to map segment
 from shared object: Cannot allocate memory
 
 telnet localhost 587
 
 Trying 127.0.0.1...
 Connected to localhost.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 Connection closed by foreign host.
 
 tail /var/log/qmail/submission/current
 
 @40004c7ca6f301d6062c /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd: error while
 loading shared libraries: libselinux.so.1: failed to map segment from
 shared object: Cannot allocate memory
 Increase the softlimits in the run files for the submission/SSL ports.
 How much memory do you have in this system? I thought I had tuned this
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Can't connect port 465 587

2010-09-01 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
In that case, when you had installed the 64 bit variant - you know these are 
separate packages? For comiling the 32 bit ones as 64 bit might well lead to 
some unexpected behavior.

But in the meantime: glad it worked with the 32 bit install..

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 02.09.2010 um 06:07 schrieb Kevin Qiu kevin_...@foxitsoftware.com:

 
 
 Hi Martin,
 
 Thank you for your feedback.
 
 There is no error when connect smtp port 25.
 
 I try to chanage the softlimit to double size(12800), and restart qmail, 
 but there are still the same errors when I telnet these ports.
 
 I had install fedora 13 32bit. The QMT is running well.
 
 Kevin
 
 
 
 于 2010/9/1 18:44, Martin Waschbuesch 写道:
 Kevin,
 
 I think Jake did not say you needed to add memory, merely to give the smtp 
 processes more memory by raising the softlimit for them.
 These processes use a softlimit partly as a security precaution.
 
 In /var/qmail/supervie/smtp/run
 check what you have at the bottom. My file looks thus:
 
 exec /usr/bin/softlimit -m 6400 \
 /usr/bin/tcpserver -v -R -h -l $HOSTNAME -x $TCP_CDB -c $MAXSMTPD \
 -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp \
 $RBLSMTPD $BLACKLIST $SMTPD $VCHKPW /bin/true 21
 
 The value after the -m in the first line of this block describes the 
 softlimit in bytes meaning that the qmail-smtp process has a soft memory 
 limit of a bit more than 60M. Perhaps you need to increase this.
 
 Same is true for the submission port. E.g. might be in 
 /var/qmail/supervise/submission/run.
 
 hope that helps to clarify!
 
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 Am 01.09.2010 um 07:45 schrieb Kevin Qiu:
 
 Hello Jake,
 
 Thank you very much for your feedback.
 
 free -m
 total used free shared buffers cached
 Mem: 3950 3808 141 0 151 2690
 -/+ buffers/cache: 967 2983
 Swap: 7838 0 7838
 
 Did you mean that I need add more RAM?
 
 I had run QMT in Fedora 13 32bit without any errors.
 
 Are you sure that I need more memory and the errors can be fixed, or I
 need install 32bit linux.
 
 Kevin
 
 
 
 于 2010/8/31 23:50, Jake Vickers 写道:
 On 08/31/2010 03:21 AM, Kevin Qiu wrote:
 Hi list,
 
 QMT on Fedora 13 x86_64
 
 Build rpm with `rpmbuild --rebuild --with fedora_1164 
 name-version.src.rpm`
 
 telnet localhost 25
 
 Trying 127.0.0.1...
 Connected to localhost.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 220 mail.domain.com - Welcome to Qmail Toaster Ver. 1.3 SMTP Server ESMTP
 
 telnet localhost 465
 
 Trying 127.0.0.1...
 Connected to localhost.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 Connection closed by foreign host.
 
 tail /var/log/qmail/smtp-ssl/current
 @40004c7ca2eb0ed8490c /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd: error while
 loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.16: failed to map segment
 from shared object: Cannot allocate memory
 
 telnet localhost 587
 
 Trying 127.0.0.1...
 Connected to localhost.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 Connection closed by foreign host.
 
 tail /var/log/qmail/submission/current
 
 @40004c7ca6f301d6062c /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd: error while
 loading shared libraries: libselinux.so.1: failed to map segment from
 shared object: Cannot allocate memory
 Increase the softlimits in the run files for the submission/SSL ports.
 How much memory do you have in this system? I thought I had tuned this
 for systems with around 4g of RAM.
 
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] How to add the Certificate for mutil-domain

2010-08-31 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
I recommend looking at Alin Nastac's patch found here: 
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94257. It will allow the use of an 
environment variable to determine the certificate to use.

Note that this is not part of the stock toaster and would require recompiling 
qmail. I have no idea if this works in conjunction with the other patches 
already in use in QMT.
If you give it a try, it would be nice if you could document that on the wiki. 
;-)

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Am 30.08.2010 um 17:09 schrieb Kevin Qiu:

 Hello list,
 
 I had read the help in this URL
 http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Certificate Step 5)
 
 But I want to know how to add the Certificate for mutil-domains like
 that. The virtuel-mutl-domains were crated on the same server.
 
 Could any body help me that.
 
 
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[qmailtoaster] Inconsistency qmailadmin /vqadmin / qcontrol

2010-08-28 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi all,

I noticed a glitch that I wanted to let you guys know about:

The different tools you can use to create / edit mailboxes do not have 
identical behavior when it comes to passwords.

Imagine a user with the password (without quotes) '12345'

Here are the results for the individual tools (adding the user and then looking 
at the result in the database - again ignore the quotes):

vadduser:
'12345'


qcontrol:
'12345'


vqadmin
'12345'


qmailadmin:
'12345'


Of course doing this with vadduser, you need to enclose the password with 
single quotes. But as you can see: qmailadmin and the command line tools work, 
vqadmin and qcontrol show the glitch (probably could be solved by adapting how 
the input string is handled/escaped).

It may just be a minor nuisance, but I think perhaps this should be the same 
behavior for all front ends.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: rpmforge / Centos 5.5

2010-08-24 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi Steve,

There no longer is any problem. It seems that when I posted this, I had 
experienced the result of the initial rpmforge update (2.16.4-1). I installed 
it again yesterday (apparently 2.16.4-2) and there are no problems whatsoever.

Thanks for the hint! :-)

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Am 03.08.2010 um 22:02 schrieb Steve Huff:

 
 On Aug 3, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:
 
 So what's the bottom line solution? Wait for the patch to be applied to 
 rpmforge version?
 
 
 i'm still not clear what exactly the problem is (that's why i asked for 
 Martin's mrtg version).  the patch is already in the current RPMforge package 
 (2.16.4-2).
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] spamdyke

2010-08-04 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi Noel,

Am 04.08.2010 um 18:33 schrieb Noel Rivera (Border Less):

 Hello list I have a question.
  
 I have a qmailtoaster server with Spamdyke and with 8 diferent domains.
  
 It’s possible to have one of this eight domains without Spamdyke and with 
 other configurations?
  

You can have different configuration options per domain, yes.
See: http://www.spamdyke.org/documentation/FAQ.html#FEATURE8
I do not think you can completely disable spamdyke for individual domains, 
though.

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[qmailtoaster] rpmforge / Centos 5.5

2010-08-03 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi all,

I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, but when you use rpmforge 
(which I rely on for a lot of perl  php modules) and update mrtg using the 
rpmforge package, the qmailmrtg-toaster stuff does not seem to work anymore. 
Instead, the scripts that generate the graphs complained about a missing module.
Now, I reverted to the previous (official centos) version and explicitly skip 
this package, but perhaps someone else has encountered it and knows why it 
happens and can be fixed? E.g. might it be that newer mrtg releases are no 
longer compatible? etc.

Martin

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Re: [qmailtoaster] i have a trouble with open relay

2010-08-03 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Aren't the xyz:allow lines supposed to be on one line each?

E.g. you would have to do something like:

127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,DKSIGN=/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private
192.168.58.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,DKSIGN=/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private
:allow,BADMIMETYPE=,BADLOADERTYPE=M,CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT=150,CHKUSER_WRONGRCPTLIMIT=10,DKSIGN=/var/qmail/control/domaink

I could be wrong, but that is what I am used to see...

Martin

Am 03.08.2010 um 17:56 schrieb Sergio Enrique Vidal Velasquez:

 Hi friend ,
 
 ia have a trouble please i ask for your help in this issue.
 
 My server is on the net 192.168.72.0 and i want make open relay for an 
 application on network  192.168.188.0.
 i try the config of /etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp is:
 
 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,192.168.58.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,DKSIGN=/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private
 :allow,BADMIMETYPE=,BADLOADERTYPE=M,CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT=150,CHKUSER_WRONGRCPTLIMIT=10,DKSIGN=/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private
 
 
 and i make the commands:
 
 qmaictl cdb
 
 and
 qmailctl restart
 
 but is not working.
 
 this config and procedure is correct please help me.
 
 thank you very much
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: rpmforge / Centos 5.5

2010-08-03 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
I re-updated mrtg and googled the resulting error only to find the same info 
Steve had just posted. So my question is 'solved' as in I know where this comes 
from. Dunno why I did not find that bug post earlier, though. Memo to myself: 
more thorough research needed before asking other people! :-)

Thanks a bunch Steve  Eric.

Martin

Am 03.08.2010 um 20:00 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Hi all,
 I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, but when you use rpmforge 
 (which I rely on for a lot of perl  php modules) and update mrtg using the 
 rpmforge package, the qmailmrtg-toaster stuff does not seem to work anymore. 
 Instead, the scripts that generate the graphs complained about a missing 
 module.
 Now, I reverted to the previous (official centos) version and explicitly 
 skip this package, but perhaps someone else has encountered it and knows why 
 it happens and can be fixed? E.g. might it be that newer mrtg releases are 
 no longer compatible? etc.
 Martin
 PS: If need be, I can again 'break' mrtg and produce the exact error message.
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 I don't recall seeing anything about this before. This sort of thing is the 
 reason that qtp-install-rpmforge installs the rpmforge repo in a disabled 
 state though. ;)
 
 It be nice to make QMT work either way though. By all means, have at it.
 
 What are the differences between the rpmforge and centos versions? Have you 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: rpmforge / Centos 5.5

2010-08-03 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Yes, and until then stick to original CentOS repo version.

Martin

Am 03.08.2010 um 21:43 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 So what's the bottom line solution? Wait for the patch to be applied to 
 rpmforge version?
 -- 
 -Eric 'shubes'
 
 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 I re-updated mrtg and googled the resulting error only to find the same info 
 Steve had just posted. So my question is 'solved' as in I know where this 
 comes from. Dunno why I did not find that bug post earlier, though. Memo to 
 myself: more thorough research needed before asking other people! :-)
 Thanks a bunch Steve  Eric.
 Martin
 Am 03.08.2010 um 20:00 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Hi all,
 I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, but when you use 
 rpmforge (which I rely on for a lot of perl  php modules) and update mrtg 
 using the rpmforge package, the qmailmrtg-toaster stuff does not seem to 
 work anymore. Instead, the scripts that generate the graphs complained 
 about a missing module.
 Now, I reverted to the previous (official centos) version and explicitly 
 skip this package, but perhaps someone else has encountered it and knows 
 why it happens and can be fixed? E.g. might it be that newer mrtg releases 
 are no longer compatible? etc.
 Martin
 PS: If need be, I can again 'break' mrtg and produce the exact error 
 message.
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 will deserve neither and lose both.”
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 I don't recall seeing anything about this before. This sort of thing is the 
 reason that qtp-install-rpmforge installs the rpmforge repo in a disabled 
 state though. ;)
 
 It be nice to make QMT work either way though. By all means, have at it.
 
 What are the differences between the rpmforge and centos versions? Have you 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] x86_64 install

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi Igor,

It may be a stupid question, but since you said you had 'the same' 32bit 
installation...
What is the OS and which packages did you download / install?

If you re-used your 'old' packages, they might install on 64 bit system (if it 
has 32bit support enabled), but will not run without problems.
Did you use the 64bit-specific packages and recompile?

Martin

Am 26.07.2010 um 09:51 schrieb Igor Smitran:

 This is my first install on x86_64 platform and i have some issues:
 
 1. i had to use much higher softlimit values and i was wondering did
 anyone else had to use values so high:
 imap4  /usr/bin/softlimit -m 1800
 imap4-ssl  /usr/bin/softlimit -m 3800
 pop3  /usr/bin/softlimit -m 1800
 pop3-ssl  /usr/bin/softlimit -m 3800
 smtp  /usr/bin/softlimit -m 5000
 submission  /usr/bin/softlimit -m 5000
 
 2. qmail-dk is not working, giving error qmail-smtpd: qq hard reject
 (qmail-dk: Cannot sign message due to invalid message syntax. (#5.3.0)):
 
 I have exactly the same 32-bit installation that works without any
 problems, with default softlimit values and without qmail-dk errors.
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Re: [qmailtoaster] x86_64 install

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Waschbuesch

Am 26.07.2010 um 10:25 schrieb Igor Smitran:

 Hi Igor,
 
 It may be a stupid question, but since you said you had 'the same' 32bit
 installation...
 What is the OS and which packages did you download / install?
 
 CentOS x64
 
 
 If you re-used your 'old' packages, they might install on 64 bit system
 (if it has 32bit support enabled), but will not run without problems.
 Did you use the 64bit-specific packages and recompile?
 
 
 I've used current-download-script.sh to download packages and then
 cnt50-install-script.sh with ARCH=x86_64 to install, completely new setup,
 so, yes, packages were rebuilt for x86_64 arch
 

Can you double check the download script you used?
For the install script should be named cnt5064-install-script.sh, the deps 
script cnt5064-deps.sh, etc.
I'm saying that because qmail-dk worked for me without a problem on a Centos5.5 
64bit system.

But if everything else is working, I'd suggest you might want to have a look at 
replacing qmail-dk with the method Jake
described in his video on DKIM (it can also take care of Domainkeys) and use 
SpamAssassin for incoming DK checking
as there was discussion on the list a while ago on false positives whith 
regards to DK checking on incoming messages.

Martin

Re: [qmailtoaster] x86_64 install

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Glad it worked out!

Am 26.07.2010 um 12:12 schrieb Igor Smitran:

 Martin wrote:
 Can you double check the download script you used?
 For the install script should be named cnt5064-install-script.sh, the deps
 script cnt5064-deps.sh, etc.
 I'm saying that because qmail-dk worked for me without a problem on a
 Centos5.5 64bit system.
 
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Error while running setup.php while installing horde groupware webmail

2010-07-16 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
you can try the script / package I have created for horde on QMT/Centos:

using svn:

svn co https://www.waschbuesch.de/svn/horde-toaster/

to get all the files.

then execute
bash install.sh

works for me. :-)

Am 16.07.2010 um 12:52 schrieb Scott Hughes:

 It appears that you have not installed all of the required packages. Please 
 search this list using the keyword 'horde' and look for my quick and dirty 
 install guide. Some one else has written a more detailed guide and that one 
 should show up in your search as well.
 
 Scott
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 16, 2010, at 5:19 AM, Suhag P Desai spde...@gnvfc.net wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
  
 
 I have successfully installed qmailtoaster latest version and all the module 
 of qmailtoaster are running fine. But I am facing problem while running 
 ./scrips/setup.php file during installation of horde groupware webmail
 
  
 
 Please find below steps which I followed during running of setup.php
 
  
 
  
 
 [r...@spd scripts]# ./setup.php
 
 Horde Groupware Webmail Edition Configuration Menu
 
 (0) Exit
 
 (1) Configure database settings
 
 (2) Create database or tables
 
 (3) Configure administrator settings
 
 (4) Update PEAR for a new or changed location
 
 (5) Update from an older Horde Groupware Webmail Edition version
 
  
 
 Type your choice: 1
 
 What database backend should we use? [false]
 
 Type your choice: mysql
 
  
 
 Request persistent connections? [0]
 
 (1) Yes
 
 (0) No
 
 Type your choice: 0
 
  
 
 Username to connect to the database as* [] root
 
 Password to connect with [] password
 
  
 
 How should we connect to the database? [unix]
 
 (unix) UNIX Sockets
 
 (tcp) TCP/IP
 
 Type your choice: unix
 
 Location of UNIX socket []  /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
 
  
 
 Database name to use* [] horde
 
 Internally used charset* [utf-8] utf-8
 
 Use SSL to connect to the server? [0]
 
 (1) Yes
 
 (0) No
 
  
 
 Type your choice: 0
 
 Certification Authority to use for SSL connections []
 
 Split reads to a different server? [false]
 
 (false) Disabled
 
 (true) Enabled
 
  
 
 Type your choice: false
 
  
 
 Writing main configuration file
 
 PHP Fatal error:  Class 'DOMDocument' not found in 
 /usr/share/horde/lib/Horde/DO
  M.php on line 119
 
 Fatal error: Class 'DOMDocument' not found in 
 /usr/share/horde/lib/Horde/DOM.php   
on line 119
 
 =
 
  
 
 My /etc/my.cnf file as per below
 
  
 
 [mysqld]
 
 datadir=/var/lib/mysql
 
 socket=/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
 
 user=mysql
 
 collation_server=utf8_general_ci
 
 character_set_server=utf8
 
 init_connect=SET NAMES 'utf8'
 
 # Default to using old password format for compatibility with mysql 3.x
 
 # clients (those using the mysqlclient10 compatibility package).
 
 old_passwords=1
 
  
 
 # Disabling symbolic-links is recommended to prevent assorted security risks;
 
 # to do so, uncomment this line:
 
 # symbolic-links=0
 
  
 
 [mysqld_safe]
 
 log-error=/var/log/mysqld.log
 
 pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid
 
  
 
  
 
 [client]
 
 default_character_set=utf8
 
  
 
  
 
 Please help..
 
  
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Error while running setup.php while installing horde groupware webmail

2010-07-16 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
And of course, if you have any questions, please let me know.

Martin

Am 16.07.2010 um 13:41 schrieb Martin Waschbuesch:

 you can try the script / package I have created for horde on QMT/Centos:
 
 using svn:
 
 svn co https://www.waschbuesch.de/svn/horde-toaster/
 
 to get all the files.
 
 then execute
 bash install.sh
 
 works for me. :-)
 
 Am 16.07.2010 um 12:52 schrieb Scott Hughes:
 
 It appears that you have not installed all of the required packages. Please 
 search this list using the keyword 'horde' and look for my quick and dirty 
 install guide. Some one else has written a more detailed guide and that one 
 should show up in your search as well.
 
 Scott
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 16, 2010, at 5:19 AM, Suhag P Desai spde...@gnvfc.net wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
  
 
 I have successfully installed qmailtoaster latest version and all the 
 module of qmailtoaster are running fine. But I am facing problem while 
 running ./scrips/setup.php file during installation of horde groupware 
 webmail
 
  
 
 Please find below steps which I followed during running of setup.php
 
  
 
  
 
 [r...@spd scripts]# ./setup.php
 
 Horde Groupware Webmail Edition Configuration Menu
 
 (0) Exit
 
 (1) Configure database settings
 
 (2) Create database or tables
 
 (3) Configure administrator settings
 
 (4) Update PEAR for a new or changed location
 
 (5) Update from an older Horde Groupware Webmail Edition version
 
  
 
 Type your choice: 1
 
 What database backend should we use? [false]
 
 Type your choice: mysql
 
  
 
 Request persistent connections? [0]
 
 (1) Yes
 
 (0) No
 
 Type your choice: 0
 
  
 
 Username to connect to the database as* [] root
 
 Password to connect with [] password
 
  
 
 How should we connect to the database? [unix]
 
 (unix) UNIX Sockets
 
 (tcp) TCP/IP
 
 Type your choice: unix
 
 Location of UNIX socket []  /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
 
  
 
 Database name to use* [] horde
 
 Internally used charset* [utf-8] utf-8
 
 Use SSL to connect to the server? [0]
 
 (1) Yes
 
 (0) No
 
  
 
 Type your choice: 0
 
 Certification Authority to use for SSL connections []
 
 Split reads to a different server? [false]
 
 (false) Disabled
 
 (true) Enabled
 
  
 
 Type your choice: false
 
  
 
 Writing main configuration file
 
 PHP Fatal error:  Class 'DOMDocument' not found in 
 /usr/share/horde/lib/Horde/DO   
   M.php on line 119
 
 Fatal error: Class 'DOMDocument' not found in 
 /usr/share/horde/lib/Horde/DOM.php  
 on line 119
 
 =
 
  
 
 My /etc/my.cnf file as per below
 
  
 
 [mysqld]
 
 datadir=/var/lib/mysql
 
 socket=/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
 
 user=mysql
 
 collation_server=utf8_general_ci
 
 character_set_server=utf8
 
 init_connect=SET NAMES 'utf8'
 
 # Default to using old password format for compatibility with mysql 3.x
 
 # clients (those using the mysqlclient10 compatibility package).
 
 old_passwords=1
 
  
 
 # Disabling symbolic-links is recommended to prevent assorted security 
 risks;
 
 # to do so, uncomment this line:
 
 # symbolic-links=0
 
  
 
 [mysqld_safe]
 
 log-error=/var/log/mysqld.log
 
 pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid
 
  
 
  
 
 [client]
 
 default_character_set=utf8
 
  
 
  
 
 Please help..
 
  
 
 Regards,
 
 Suhag Desai
 
 Network Engineer
 
 
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: spam email routing query

2010-07-12 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Ok, here is Timo's response to my question:

Am 11.07.2010 um 21:01 schrieb Timo Sirainen:

 On Sat, 2010-07-10 at 09:14 +0200, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 
 1.) Is there any danger regarding  maildir consistency in directly moving 
 mail items about?
 
 No. Assuming you use mv and not cp (and it's all in the same
 filesystem) so that the move is atomic.
 
 2.) Could I somehow use deliver to move the mails? I think I can recall that 
 other LDAs (maildrop?) allow for that? This would of course be preferred as 
 the maildir cache would also still be optimized after the operation.
 
 deliver -u user -m mailboxname could be used to save new mails. Maybe
 a save + delete would work too. I don't really think it's worth it.
 
 If anyone has any suggestions, I'd really appreciate this.
 
 See the antispam plugin:
 http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/Projects/dovecot-antispam

So, since I have not seen any issues with the way I do it (it is indeed mv and 
on same filesystem), I'll leave it as is.

Though, that does not explain why Andreas saw different behaviour?

Martin

Am 08.07.2010 um 21:12 schrieb Martin Waschbuesch:

 You know, sometimes I am just way too slow it seems. :-)
 
 Am 08.07.2010 um 20:29 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 
 I haven't looked at the deliver documentation much, let alone recently.
 I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but would you like to ask on the 
 dovecot list? (dove...@dovecot.org)
 That list has been pretty active lately, and the people there are very 
 helpful.
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: help with some spam

2010-07-12 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
I was able to get rid of that sort of spam by signing all outgoing mail with 
Domainkeys and setting the policy record for Domainkeys to signify: This server 
signs ALL outgoing mail.

Incoming policy can be adjusted to reject mail where there is no signature in 
such a case.

Martin

Am 13.07.2010 um 04:57 schrieb David Milholen:

 
 
 On 7/12/2010 8:28 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:
 If all of your submissions come from authenticated connections (which they 
 should), you can blacklist your own domain. I know this sounds 
 counter-intuitive, but since all of your domains authenticate, the only 
 rejections will be those who claim to come from your domain but fail to 
 authenticate, since authenticated connections pass all filters. It works 
 well to block all spam that forges your domain in the sender's address.
 
 There may be a small problem with this but should not be a major issue.. Most 
 not all of my customers have their mail client authentication required box 
 unchecked if they are INSIDE my network but if they are outside of my network 
 they must have this checked.  For example I own 208.44.160.xxx/24, 
 63.147.8.0/23,65.44.158.0/23,63.144.48.0/24 networks and they are all on my 
 wireless topology. If my customers  are home on these networks then the only 
 path out is thru my data center which has the main dns and mx services.
 If they are not home say on vacation then they must set this box for 
 authentication. 2 yrs ago we started this by default to set them. So there 
 may be a few still out there with this not checked.
 I am not scared to list my nets because I do welcome an attack from outside. 
 I do love my iptables and the unix scripting in image stream :)
 
 Note, if you use squirrelmail, you should modify your SM configuration to 
 authenticate smtp submissions, and probably use port 587 as well (instead of 
 the default port 25). The stock squirrelmail configuration does not 
 authenticate by default.
 
 Already configured this and works great:)
 
 In case all of your submissions aren't authenticated (perhaps you have a web 
 app that doesn't authenticate), the new version of spamdyke (v4.1.0, just 
 released a week or so ago) contains a new option that will reject emails 
 where the sender and recipient address is the same. This is often the case 
 with such spam, and is the next best thing to blacklisting your own domain.
 
 FWIW, when you use qtp-install-spamdyke to upgrade to the latest spamdyke 
 version, it will now also install qtp-prune-graylist so your graylist stays 
 pruned optimally. You should be sure to have the latest qmailtoaster-plus 
 package installed before upgrading spamdyke:
 # yum update qmailtoaster-plus
 # qtp-install-spamdyke
 
 You can also use badmailto for restricting some of these spam messages that 
 contain numbers. See 
 http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Account_verification_using_badmailto 
 but I expect this would not be necessary if you're blacklisting your 
 domain(s).
 
 The blacklist_rdns would be the place to list my domain?
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: spam email routing query

2010-07-08 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Interesting,

I have a script that does just that (move files about in the maildir) and it 
has not lead to problems yet. Though, I can definitely understand how it might 
be problematic. I gotta watch out for that.
If you want to be on the safe side, I guess Eric's suggestion of using 
dovecot's lda is the thing to do.

Martin

Am 08.07.2010 um 11:47 schrieb Andreas Galatis:

 Hi Eric,
 
 As far as I learned it is never a good idea to copy (or delete) messages 
 directly in the Maildir if you use dovecot.
 I had a script deleting old mails from a clients Maildir running via cron.
 The first day the script deleted old messages, the client could not access 
 the 
 last listpage from squirrelmail.
 I think the dovecot- index files where irritated because of missing files.
 At least you would have to delete the dovecot-files in the concerned 
 directory 
 (they will be rebuilt)
 
 Andreas
 Am Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2010 04:18:51 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 Rajesh M wrote:
 hi eric
 
 when the email arrives in the spam box its headers contained the
 delivered to email id in the header so my script will know where to
 which email id the message is to be delivered. so my concern about bcc is
 resolved.
 
 my second question is as such
 which would be better
 
 Define better. ;)
 
 Simply move the email from the centralized spambox to the inbox of that
 email id
 Or use the qmail-queue program to reroute the message back to the queue
 for delivery.
 
 As usual, there's more than one way.
 
 i don't want the email time stamps changed during this process.
 
 Which time stamps are you referring to?
 
 On further thinking about this, I wouldn't do either. If you have
 dovecot installed, I would use dovecot's deliver program. Otherwise, I'd
 use the maildrop program. You should realize though that at some point
 dovecot's lda (deliver) is likely going to replace maildrop. With either
 program, I don't expect you'd need to do any parsing of the message in
 your script - just pass it on to the lda. I could be wrong about this
 though.
 
 You could move the file to the appropriate inbox yourself and I believe
 that would work, but using the lda would be 'better'. The lda really
 should know what's going into the mailbox, for indexing and quota purposes.
 
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: spam email routing query

2010-07-08 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
I never have such problems with e.g. horde or Mail on Mac OS X.
Could that be IMAP client-related as well? But then I am investigating how to 
replace my manual  operations with dovecot's deliver. I don't want to end up 
having such problems as well.

Martin

Am 08.07.2010 um 18:58 schrieb Andreas Galatis:

 After having deleted some Mails and the user accesses the concerned folder
 via squirrelmail he gets a failure notice saying the imap-connection was
 interrupted.
 In the logs I see the error message saying time went back, therefore
 dovecot was stopped.
 The error message is false, time is not manipulated, I run ntpd on all
 servers. So I tried stopping the deleteoldmails script and have no more
 problems with the folders, neither with time going back.
 Since I use dovecot, my client can easily show all messages in the Folder
 and delete the oldest himself, through squirrelmail. With courier it was
 too slow to see large amount of Mails.
 
 
 Andreas
 
 Yes, it can be problematic. At the same time though, dovecot is very
 robust, and is capable of recovering from inconsistencies such as this
 automatically (all by itself). I would expect performance hits when
 dovecot needs to rebuild indexes and such, but I would not expect a
 failure of any kind. If it fails, I'd consider it a bug (and I expect
 Timo the author would as well).
 
 If you run into problems however, I think Andreas's remedy of deleting
 the dovecot-files should indeed clear things up. I'd try to check first
 though to be sure that dovecot isn't in the middle of rebuilding things
 already. Not sure how I'd do that off hand (ps?/lsof?).
 --
 -Eric 'shubes'
 
 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Interesting,
 
 I have a script that does just that (move files about in the maildir)
 and it has not lead to problems yet. Though, I can definitely understand
 how it might be problematic. I gotta watch out for that.
 If you want to be on the safe side, I guess Eric's suggestion of using
 dovecot's lda is the thing to do.
 
 Martin
 
 Am 08.07.2010 um 11:47 schrieb Andreas Galatis:
 
 Hi Eric,
 
 As far as I learned it is never a good idea to copy (or delete)
 messages
 directly in the Maildir if you use dovecot.
 I had a script deleting old mails from a clients Maildir running via
 cron.
 The first day the script deleted old messages, the client could not
 access the
 last listpage from squirrelmail.
 I think the dovecot- index files where irritated because of missing
 files.
 At least you would have to delete the dovecot-files in the concerned
 directory
 (they will be rebuilt)
 
 Andreas
 Am Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2010 04:18:51 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 Rajesh M wrote:
 hi eric
 
 when the email arrives in the spam box its headers contained the
 delivered to email id in the header so my script will know where to
 which email id the message is to be delivered. so my concern about
 bcc is
 resolved.
 
 my second question is as such
 which would be better
 Define better. ;)
 
 Simply move the email from the centralized spambox to the inbox of
 that
 email id
 Or use the qmail-queue program to reroute the message back to the
 queue
 for delivery.
 As usual, there's more than one way.
 
 i don't want the email time stamps changed during this process.
 Which time stamps are you referring to?
 
 On further thinking about this, I wouldn't do either. If you have
 dovecot installed, I would use dovecot's deliver program. Otherwise,
 I'd
 use the maildrop program. You should realize though that at some point
 dovecot's lda (deliver) is likely going to replace maildrop. With
 either
 program, I don't expect you'd need to do any parsing of the message in
 your script - just pass it on to the lda. I could be wrong about this
 though.
 
 You could move the file to the appropriate inbox yourself and I
 believe
 that would work, but using the lda would be 'better'. The lda really
 should know what's going into the mailbox, for indexing and quota
 purposes.
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: spam email routing query

2010-07-08 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
From what I read in the deliver documentation, it cannot (unlike maildrop) take 
an email from standard input or a file? At least that is how I read the 
documentation.
If that's true I do not see how it could be used for this type of scripting.
Anyone can confirm / correct my observation?

Martin
 
Am 08.07.2010 um 11:51 schrieb Martin Waschbuesch:

 Interesting,
 
 I have a script that does just that (move files about in the maildir) and it 
 has not lead to problems yet. Though, I can definitely understand how it 
 might be problematic. I gotta watch out for that.
 If you want to be on the safe side, I guess Eric's suggestion of using 
 dovecot's lda is the thing to do.
 
 Martin
 
 Am 08.07.2010 um 11:47 schrieb Andreas Galatis:
 
 Hi Eric,
 
 As far as I learned it is never a good idea to copy (or delete) messages 
 directly in the Maildir if you use dovecot.
 I had a script deleting old mails from a clients Maildir running via cron.
 The first day the script deleted old messages, the client could not access 
 the 
 last listpage from squirrelmail.
 I think the dovecot- index files where irritated because of missing files.
 At least you would have to delete the dovecot-files in the concerned 
 directory 
 (they will be rebuilt)
 
 Andreas
 Am Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2010 04:18:51 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 Rajesh M wrote:
 hi eric
 
 when the email arrives in the spam box its headers contained the
 delivered to email id in the header so my script will know where to
 which email id the message is to be delivered. so my concern about bcc is
 resolved.
 
 my second question is as such
 which would be better
 
 Define better. ;)
 
 Simply move the email from the centralized spambox to the inbox of that
 email id
 Or use the qmail-queue program to reroute the message back to the queue
 for delivery.
 
 As usual, there's more than one way.
 
 i don't want the email time stamps changed during this process.
 
 Which time stamps are you referring to?
 
 On further thinking about this, I wouldn't do either. If you have
 dovecot installed, I would use dovecot's deliver program. Otherwise, I'd
 use the maildrop program. You should realize though that at some point
 dovecot's lda (deliver) is likely going to replace maildrop. With either
 program, I don't expect you'd need to do any parsing of the message in
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: spam email routing query

2010-07-08 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
You know, sometimes I am just way too slow it seems. :-)

Am 08.07.2010 um 20:29 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 I haven't looked at the deliver documentation much, let alone recently.
 I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but would you like to ask on the 
 dovecot list? (dove...@dovecot.org)
 That list has been pretty active lately, and the people there are very 
 helpful.
 
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 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 From what I read in the deliver documentation, it cannot (unlike maildrop) 
 take an email from standard input or a file? At least that is how I read the 
 documentation.
 If that's true I do not see how it could be used for this type of scripting.
 Anyone can confirm / correct my observation?
 Martin
 Am 08.07.2010 um 11:51 schrieb Martin Waschbuesch:
 Interesting,
 
 I have a script that does just that (move files about in the maildir) and 
 it has not lead to problems yet. Though, I can definitely understand how it 
 might be problematic. I gotta watch out for that.
 If you want to be on the safe side, I guess Eric's suggestion of using 
 dovecot's lda is the thing to do.
 
 Martin
 
 Am 08.07.2010 um 11:47 schrieb Andreas Galatis:
 
 Hi Eric,
 
 As far as I learned it is never a good idea to copy (or delete) messages 
 directly in the Maildir if you use dovecot.
 I had a script deleting old mails from a clients Maildir running via cron.
 The first day the script deleted old messages, the client could not access 
 the last listpage from squirrelmail.
 I think the dovecot- index files where irritated because of missing files.
 At least you would have to delete the dovecot-files in the concerned 
 directory (they will be rebuilt)
 
 Andreas
 Am Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2010 04:18:51 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 Rajesh M wrote:
 hi eric
 
 when the email arrives in the spam box its headers contained the
 delivered to email id in the header so my script will know where to
 which email id the message is to be delivered. so my concern about bcc is
 resolved.
 
 my second question is as such
 which would be better
 Define better. ;)
 
 Simply move the email from the centralized spambox to the inbox of that
 email id
 Or use the qmail-queue program to reroute the message back to the queue
 for delivery.
 As usual, there's more than one way.
 
 i don't want the email time stamps changed during this process.
 Which time stamps are you referring to?
 
 On further thinking about this, I wouldn't do either. If you have
 dovecot installed, I would use dovecot's deliver program. Otherwise, I'd
 use the maildrop program. You should realize though that at some point
 dovecot's lda (deliver) is likely going to replace maildrop. With either
 program, I don't expect you'd need to do any parsing of the message in
 your script - just pass it on to the lda. I could be wrong about this
 though.
 
 You could move the file to the appropriate inbox yourself and I believe
 that would work, but using the lda would be 'better'. The lda really
 should know what's going into the mailbox, for indexing and quota 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Disclaimer Once Again

2010-07-08 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Or watch Jake's video here (it's the only one I happen to have lying around 
because I watched it several times and did not want to re-download it every 
time):

http://martin.waschbuesch.de/ep19-full.mov

Martin

Am 09.07.2010 um 00:45 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 I haven't set up the DKIM wrapper (yet), so I'm not much help at this point. 
 I think Amit's on the right track though. The disclaimer (or whatever common 
 text) should be added just before the DKIM signature.
 
 Is that wrapper on the wiki somewhere, or is it only in the video?
 
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 nishant amin wrote:
 hi all
 i am also facing the same problem as rajesh.at my place of work i am
 required to add a disclaimer for all out going emails.i have looked at
 the previous posts regarding disclaimer..i added a plugin on squirrel
 mail to add a disclaimer to all out going emails from webmail but the
 main challenge if for the users using email clients (disclaimer can be
 added as a signature).i need to do it at the server level(if possible
 at the server level then i can remove the squirrel mail plugin)
 your assistance is highly appreciated
 regards
 Nishant Amin.
 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Amit a...@ikf.co.in wrote:
 Hi Everyone,
 
 Sorry for bringing once again this topic on highlight, but today my client
 also asked me to add disclaimer to all outgoing mails at server level. I saw
 all the earlier post, all do n dont's for the same. Don't know whether some
 got succeeded in the same or not.
 Was thinking how it can be done. While searching got info about altermime
 (http://www.pldaniels.com/altermime/). Next thing was where we can implement
 altermime with our existing toaster package, it should be time of sending
 mail may be with qmail-send or qmail-remote. Now qmail-remote wrapper is
 used in DKIM package to add DKIM signatures in Mail headers, so I need some
 help from you guys to modify the script so while adding DKIM signature it
 will also add a disclaimer to outgoing mail.
 I don't whether I'm thinking in right direction or not. I just thought of
 DKIM as it is the time when mail is open to add DKIM signature. So please
 help me.
 
 Thanks and regards,
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] sending out newsletters using qmailtoaster

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch

Am 06.07.2010 um 22:55 schrieb Tonix (Antonio Nati):
 Also note that, if you send one mail to 50 recipients, this will result in 
 50 individual items in the queue. As long as but one of these items is still 
 unsent, qmailctl queue will list all 50 items as still being in the queue 
 but will indicate with each item if said item has been sent. Once all items 
 belonging to the message have been sent, they'll all no longer be shown in 
 the queue. Is that the behavior you see when saying some messages need a 
 long time to send?
 
   
 If I send to 50 recipients on the same remote domain, I will have 50 
 connections opened to the same remote server...
 So, if remote server has limit on new connections, some deliveries will abort 
 and retry nextly.

Very true. You could use your number of concurrent connections more effectively 
when each was used to transmit more than one message. But of course this (if 
anyone actually were to rewrite the way qmail's queuing works) would only be a 
relief and eliminate the problem: Depending on the allowed chunk size (messages 
per session allowed for a given target domain) and the number of messages sent 
to that domain, you might still end up being 'tarpit'ed.
But I guess the whole discussion is a moot point in so far as there is (afaik) 
no such patch for qmail in existence.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Dynamic IP rejection notices

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi Mike,

I am afraid you will probably not have much luck with this. A dynamic IP 
address will make lots of ISPs think you are a spammer and the only way I know 
to avoid this is to sign up for a fixed IP address.

Martin

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 To all,
   I have just set up another (that makes 5) Qmail Toaster
 installations (I love this product), but this one is the first that has a
 dynamic IP.
 
 Apart for a few issues, which have been resolved, I am now getting
 rejections due to the Dynamic IP and Spam sites.
 
 What can I do to stop this.  Please see the rejection message below.
 
 
 Hi. This is the qmail-send program at msrvprl.domainname.com.
 I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following  
 addresses.
 This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
 
 i...@recipient.com.:
 User and password not set, continuing without authentication.
 196.41.124.15 does not like recipient.
 Remote host said: 554 5.7.1 dsl-240-15-122.telkomadsl.co.za 
 [41.240.15.122]: Client host rejected: ADSLDIRECT 27 you must relay  
 your mail through your upstream provider if you are connected via an  
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 Giving up on 196.41.124.15.
 
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
I guess you skipped the current vpopmail-toaster package and manually built 
vpopmail 5.5.0 from vpopmail source (inter7)?

If so, you should be aware that manually compiling vpopmail will not tell the 
RPM based system that a package called vpopmail-toaster is installed on the 
system and therefore the build requirements for the qmail-toaster package fail.

Martin


Am 07.07.2010 um 19:13 schrieb Amit Dalia:

 Hi everyone,
 
 I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta version of 
 vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail but stuck 
 while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:
 
 Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
 warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
 warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
 error: Failed build dependencies:
 vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
 error: File not found by glob: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
 error: File not found by glob: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm
 
 Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.
 
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
PS: What you can do is edit the .spec file for qmail-toaster package and remove 
'vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17' from the line that says

Requires: some.other.package, vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17

Martin

Am 07.07.2010 um 19:13 schrieb Amit Dalia:

 Hi everyone,
 
 I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta version of 
 vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail but stuck 
 while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:
 
 Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
 warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
 warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
 error: Failed build dependencies:
 vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
 error: File not found by glob: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
 error: File not found by glob: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm
 
 Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.
 
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Does it have to be the development branch of vpopmail?

I expect that using the stable branch (5.4.30 is the current version) would be 
easier to integrate with the existing vpopmail-toaster package...

Martin

Am 07.07.2010 um 19:26 schrieb Amit Dalia:

 Hi Eric,
 Building vpopmail from spec file is good option but there are much changes 
 need to be done as there are many changes made in vpopmail 5.5.0.
 
 Regards,
 
 Amit
 
 At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:50 Eric Shubert wrote:
 Amit Dalia wrote:
  Hi everyone,
  
  I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta version of 
  vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail but 
  stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:
  
  Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
  warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
  warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
  error: Failed build dependencies:
  vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by 
  qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
  error: File not found by glob: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
  error: File not found by glob: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm
  
  Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.
  
  
  Regards,
  
  Amit
 
 It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to build and 
 install the 5.5 version.
 
 If you're just building and installing vpopmail manually (prototype/test 
 sort of thing), it'd be easiest to simply edit the qmail-toaster.spec 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Very true.
It's just that I could very quickly update the vpopmail-toaster package to 
5.4.30. I would not want to touch 5.5.x though - as Amit pointed out, a lot of 
things changed...

Am 07.07.2010 um 19:55 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 I expect that's true, but where's the fun in that?? ;)
 
 Seriously though, I'm glad to see someone trying the 5.5 branch. My 
 understanding is that a) it has improvements in the LDAP area, and b) quotas 
 are finally fixed.
 
 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Does it have to be the development branch of vpopmail?
 I expect that using the stable branch (5.4.30 is the current version) would 
 be easier to integrate with the existing vpopmail-toaster package...
 Martin
 Am 07.07.2010 um 19:26 schrieb Amit Dalia:
 Hi Eric,
 Building vpopmail from spec file is good option but there are much changes 
 need to be done as there are many changes made in vpopmail 5.5.0.
 
 Regards,
 
 Amit
 
 At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:50 Eric Shubert wrote:
 
Amit Dalia wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta
version of
 vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail
but
 stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:

 Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
 warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
 warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
 error: Failed build dependencies:
 vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by
 qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
 error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
 error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm

 Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.


 Regards,

 Amit
 
It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to build and
install the 5.5 version.
 
If you're just building and installing vpopmail manually
(prototype/test
sort of thing), it'd be easiest to simply edit the qmail-toaster.spec
file and remove/comment the vpopmail dependency.
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
In the meantime I just updated the package to 5.4.30... ;-) Giving it a try as 
we speak - there seem to have been numerous patches since 5.4.17 (stock QMT)...


Am 07.07.2010 um 19:56 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 Amit,
 
 Modifying the spec file is really pretty easy once you get the hang of it. If 
 you'd like, we can assist you with that.
 
 Please start a new thread on the devel list, and we'll go from there.
 
 -- 
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 Amit Dalia wrote:
 Hi Eric,
 Building vpopmail from spec file is good option but there are much changes 
 need to be done as there are many changes made in vpopmail 5.5.0.
 Regards,
 Amit
 At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:50 Eric Shubert wrote:
Amit Dalia wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta
version of
  vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail but
  stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:
 
  Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
  warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
  warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
  error: Failed build dependencies:
  vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by
  qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
  error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
  error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm
 
  Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Amit
It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to build and
install the 5.5 version.
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
That would be very good! :-)

Thanks a lot,

Martin

Am 07.07.2010 um 20:22 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 IIRC, there are MySQL database changes required for that jump. I think I may 
 have written a script to do that. Would you like me to check what I have on 
 that?
 
 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 In the meantime I just updated the package to 5.4.30... ;-) Giving it a try 
 as we speak - there seem to have been numerous patches since 5.4.17 (stock 
 QMT)...
 Am 07.07.2010 um 19:56 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 Amit,
 
 Modifying the spec file is really pretty easy once you get the hang of it. 
 If you'd like, we can assist you with that.
 
 Please start a new thread on the devel list, and we'll go from there.
 
 -- 
 -Eric 'shubes'
 
 Amit Dalia wrote:
 Hi Eric,
 Building vpopmail from spec file is good option but there are much changes 
 need to be done as there are many changes made in vpopmail 5.5.0.
 Regards,
 Amit
 At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:50 Eric Shubert wrote:
   Amit Dalia wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta
   version of
 vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail but
 stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:

 Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
 warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
 warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
 error: Failed build dependencies:
 vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by
 qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
 error: File not found by glob:
   /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
 error: File not found by glob:
   /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm

 Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.


 Regards,

 Amit
   It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to build and
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Oh, I understand, but 5.4.x has some (albeit limited I understand) LDAP support 
and 5.4.30 seems to have some things backported from 5.5.0 to allow for *some* 
more interoperability.

Of course, switching from mysql to ldap is a far bigger thing as far as I can 
tell.

Martin

Am 07.07.2010 um 20:24 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 Yeah, but it's not simply a matter of going to 5.4.30. It's also a matter of 
 switching from MySQL to LDAP for the backend. That's a big change (if not 
 bigger) as well.
 
 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Very true.
 It's just that I could very quickly update the vpopmail-toaster package to 
 5.4.30. I would not want to touch 5.5.x though - as Amit pointed out, a lot 
 of things changed...
 Am 07.07.2010 um 19:55 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 I expect that's true, but where's the fun in that?? ;)
 
 Seriously though, I'm glad to see someone trying the 5.5 branch. My 
 understanding is that a) it has improvements in the LDAP area, and b) 
 quotas are finally fixed.
 
 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Does it have to be the development branch of vpopmail?
 I expect that using the stable branch (5.4.30 is the current version) 
 would be easier to integrate with the existing vpopmail-toaster package...
 Martin
 Am 07.07.2010 um 19:26 schrieb Amit Dalia:
 Hi Eric,
 Building vpopmail from spec file is good option but there are much 
 changes need to be done as there are many changes made in vpopmail 5.5.0.
 
 Regards,
 
 Amit
 
 At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:50 Eric Shubert wrote:
 
   Amit Dalia wrote:
Hi everyone,
   
I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta
   version of
vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail
   but
stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:
   
Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
error: Failed build dependencies:
vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by
qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
error: File not found by glob:
   /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
error: File not found by glob:
   /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm
   
Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.
   
   
Regards,
   
Amit
 
   It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to build and
   install the 5.5 version.
 
   If you're just building and installing vpopmail manually
   (prototype/test
   sort of thing), it'd be easiest to simply edit the qmail-toaster.spec
   file and remove/comment the vpopmail dependency.
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: sending out newsletters using qmailtoaster

2010-07-06 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Btw.,

I just found something interesting:

There seems to be a 'bare-bones' version of one vendor's email marketing 
solution that is distributed under some sort of Open Source License (CPAL or 
something like that). Now, I do not know that product, but it may be worth 
investigating - might save people a lot of cost:

http://www.openemm.org/

Cheers,

Martin

Am 05.07.2010 um 18:15 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Hi,
 I happen to work in E-Marketing, so here's my five cents (hope it's 
 helpful!)...
 What I am going to say ASSUMES that highest possible deliverability is what 
 you are after.
 Am 05.07.2010 um 16:12 schrieb Tonix (Antonio Nati):
 Main problem I see is related to qmail opening a new session for each 
 outgoing email.
 Yahoo and others see hundreds of parallel sessions opened all together from 
 the same IP, so they close new connections from that IP, because they feel 
 to be attacked.
 We need a mechanism to send several e-mails using the same connection.
 
 Tonino
 That in itself would not be a solution at all, I am afraid. A lot of ISPs 
 actually limit (on purpose) the amount of messages they accept per 
 connection plus the number of connections within given time plus the number 
 of concurrent connections.
 You would need, and indeed major Email Service Providers have that at least 
 for the major ISPs, one configuration profile per ISP to achieve ideal 
 performance and deliverability. These profiles are not stable - ISPs often 
 change them (without publicly broadcasting the fact) to throw off spammers.
 But it is worse than that. New (from the standpoint of the ISP) senders have 
 to train or 'seed' their IP. That is to say: achieve a consistent mailing 
 frequency (number of mailings per timeframe), mailing size (recipients per 
 mailing), bounce rates (there should never be spikes in your hard bounces, 
 e.g. 550 type errors) and last but not least complaint rate (which should be 
 next to non-existant if you want good deliverability). Complaint rate means 
 if someone in e.g. AOL marks a mail and clicks the 'This is spam' type 
 button.
 Some of the checks ISPs make are automatic. They just monitor traffic and if 
 there are spikes or 'irregular' behavior, your bandwidth gets limited, mails 
 bounced, you name it.
 Also, no matter how you acquired the emails you HAVE to remove hard-bounces 
 and not retry sending to them again. Codes / Messages vary from ISP to ISP.
 Last but not least it is very tedious to communicate with ISPs should you 
 land on a blocklist (plus there are some public blocklists where you can 
 never get removed)
 I am very confident that qmail can handle all of this volume-wise, but it 
 lacks the proper tools to fine-tune for Deliverability as well as automated 
 bounce and complaint management that are required to achieve results 
 comparable to professional senders.
 Again, this all assumes that your main concern is Deliverability.
 Cheers,
 Martin
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Re: [qmailtoaster] sending out newsletters using qmailtoaster

2010-07-06 Thread Martin Waschbuesch

Am 06.07.2010 um 18:34 schrieb Tonix (Antonio Nati):
 
 I agree with you, but I find this qmail limit not acceptable. Even speaking 
 about 600 e-mails to the same domain we have problems, as qmail is going to 
 open 600 connections and the most of big ISP close connections after they got 
 the first 100 in a few seconds.
 
 When this limit will be eliminated, we can speak about further limits.
 
 Tonino
 



You already can influence the number of outgoing connections:

/var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote

contains the number of concurrent connections open at any time - that is a good 
value.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not see how QMT could benefit from patching 
qmail in such a way as to make this more configurable as it already is (e.g. 
allow for per destination domain type configuration, etc.).

You know, perhaps the question is this: what is QMT designed to do? It's a 
full-fledged mail server suite designed and optimized to provide an alternative 
to stuff like Exchange, etc. allowing for virtual domain and virtual mailbox 
management so a multitude of users can read, write  exchange e-mail., using 
qmail as its MTA. Neither qmail nor QMT have been designed to provide email 
marketing functionality. They *may* be used to that end, but probably (like the 
stuff I listed earlier) with exceptions.
On the other hand, if you ended up installing a system that was designed and 
optimized to do email-marketing, I should not at all be surprised that while it 
*could* be used to provide the Exchange type services mentioned above, it 
probably would have some drawbacks.

Bottom line: This is not a one size fits all type situation.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] sending out newsletters using qmailtoaster

2010-07-06 Thread Martin Waschbuesch

Am 06.07.2010 um 19:12 schrieb Tonix (Antonio Nati):

 This is the global value, so keeping it low means to have a few global 
 connections working.
 It would be great if connections could be reused, so only a minimum of 
 connections should be opened for each destination IP.
 
 It would be great to have such options:
 concurrency remote: as now
 new connection threshold [global]: if you have more than xx messages in queue 
 for single destination IP, open a new connection
 max connections limit [global]: per single destination IP max connection limit
 new connection threshold [IP]: if you have more than xx messages in queue for 
 a specific destination IP, open a new connection
 max connections limit [IP]: per specific destination IP max connections limit
 So, for example, you could put:
 for gmail: threshold 300, limit 20
 for yahoo: threshold 500, limit 10
 for myspecific: threshold 0 (infinite), limit 1
 for any: threshold 100, limit 5
 maxconcurrencyremote: 100

Bear with me for a second here:

Admittedly, using one connection for multiple transmissions might be more 
efficient.

However, that is only true if you actually have at least n  1 mails to send to 
the same domain at a given time.
Unless you do emarketing (or have a huge mailing list) you do not know 
beforehand that this is actually the case. On the contrary, such a situation 
would be more or less random.

This basically means that every time qmail processes an item in its queue, it 
would need to do something like this:
- scan the queue for other emails to the same domain
- gather as many as the config says for that domain
- open a SMTP connection
- transmit the messages.
- dequeue the messages

The problem is this: For every time you only have one email to a specific 
domain in the queue, you add overhead instead of reducing it. The queue might 
be really full and still no other mail in it that needs to be delivered to the 
same domain.
Thus, this makes only sense if you know beforehand that there is a high amount 
of concurrency to a specific domain.

On the other hand:
- transmitting one mail per connection is safe.
- limits for messages / connection might be subject to change without notice 
and everyone using such a config would then have lots of bounces, etc. until 
someone figures out what the ISP in question changed.

 I'm just focused on efficient e-mail server, simply.

So am I. :-)

Martin

Re: [qmailtoaster] sending out newsletters using qmailtoaster

2010-07-06 Thread Martin Waschbuesch

 My users are used to have a message delivered in a few seconds, despite of 
 destination.

If you really mean 'delivered' in the sentence above, then I am afraid your 
users have, sort of, incorrect expectations. All anyone may reasonably expect 
is that the mail server processes and attempts to send mail as quickly as 
possible. It's not like anyone can control the availability of other people's 
mail servers.
And you have to admit that, from what you describe, your qmail toaster does 
process things quickly and delays are due to receiving MTAs?

 But when a ligh mailing list, or a message with 20 or 50 recipients, 
 contains a nice number of recipients for the same domain, delivery of some 
 messages takes dozens of minutes, because destination MX delay my servers.
 With the change I ask, I'd have the same quality of service for small traffic.
 For large deliveries, I'm thinking to a patch for changing qmail queue 
 (sending to a low priority mail queue), so I will not care of large mailing 
 lists or messages with hundreds of recipients.

If delivery of some messages takes dozens of minutes, the connection to that 
host itself seems slow? Reducing the number of SMTP-connections surely would 
save some bandwidth, but the bulk of the bandwidth should still be the message 
content itself, so I would expect it to still be slow. Are you sure the 
destination is not e.g. a tarpit or something? There might be other reasons for 
the delays you see...

Also note that, if you send one mail to 50 recipients, this will result in 50 
individual items in the queue. As long as but one of these items is still 
unsent, qmailctl queue will list all 50 items as still being in the queue but 
will indicate with each item if said item has been sent. Once all items 
belonging to the message have been sent, they'll all no longer be shown in the 
queue. Is that the behavior you see when saying some messages need a long time 
to send?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] sending out newsletters using qmailtoaster

2010-07-05 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi,

I happen to work in E-Marketing, so here's my five cents (hope it's helpful!)...

What I am going to say ASSUMES that highest possible deliverability is what you 
are after.

Am 05.07.2010 um 16:12 schrieb Tonix (Antonio Nati):

 
 Main problem I see is related to qmail opening a new session for each 
 outgoing email.
 Yahoo and others see hundreds of parallel sessions opened all together from 
 the same IP, so they close new connections from that IP, because they feel to 
 be attacked.
 We need a mechanism to send several e-mails using the same connection.
 
 Tonino

That in itself would not be a solution at all, I am afraid. A lot of ISPs 
actually limit (on purpose) the amount of messages they accept per connection 
plus the number of connections within given time plus the number of concurrent 
connections.

You would need, and indeed major Email Service Providers have that at least for 
the major ISPs, one configuration profile per ISP to achieve ideal performance 
and deliverability. These profiles are not stable - ISPs often change them 
(without publicly broadcasting the fact) to throw off spammers.

But it is worse than that. New (from the standpoint of the ISP) senders have to 
train or 'seed' their IP. That is to say: achieve a consistent mailing 
frequency (number of mailings per timeframe), mailing size (recipients per 
mailing), bounce rates (there should never be spikes in your hard bounces, e.g. 
550 type errors) and last but not least complaint rate (which should be next to 
non-existant if you want good deliverability). Complaint rate means if someone 
in e.g. AOL marks a mail and clicks the 'This is spam' type button.

Some of the checks ISPs make are automatic. They just monitor traffic and if 
there are spikes or 'irregular' behavior, your bandwidth gets limited, mails 
bounced, you name it.

Also, no matter how you acquired the emails you HAVE to remove hard-bounces and 
not retry sending to them again. Codes / Messages vary from ISP to ISP.

Last but not least it is very tedious to communicate with ISPs should you land 
on a blocklist (plus there are some public blocklists where you can never get 
removed)

I am very confident that qmail can handle all of this volume-wise, but it lacks 
the proper tools to fine-tune for Deliverability as well as automated bounce 
and complaint management that are required to achieve results comparable to 
professional senders.

Again, this all assumes that your main concern is Deliverability.

Cheers,

Martin

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamdyke Graylist Delay

2010-07-01 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi there,

This is very normal behaviour. Graylisting not only depends on your server's 
timing settings, but on the behavior of the sending MTA. If that MTA does not 
retry within a given time (that is what you can configure) the mail will not be 
delivered, but regarded as spam. However, the time the sending server waits 
before resending is not something you can configure.

That means that as long as the sending server's reply in a timeframe defined by 
your graylist-min-secs and graylist-max-secs, the mail will be delivered with 
exactly the retr delay that the sending server's admin had configured.

Makes sense?

Martin


Am 01.07.2010 um 16:22 schrieb Thiago - TI - Realeza:

 Hello all
  
 I have some “trouble” here.
  
 For example, when I receive a message and spamdyke graylist it, I have an 
 delay about 20 minutes to the message be delivered on my mailbox.
  
 Here is a log
  
 07-01 10:37:50 spamdyke[17408]: DENIED_GRAYLISTED from: 
 mailerweb.boletim.geh...@gehaka.com.br to: rodrigo.so...@domain.ind.br 
 origin_ip: 201.6.108.170 origin_rdns: mail.gehaka.com.br auth: (unknown)
  
  
 The message was delivered on my server at 10:37AM but was in my mailbox  20 
 minutes later. It happens with all messages that are graylisted.
  
 I have ‘played’ with this conf a lot, mostly with graylist options. Read all 
 documentation on spamdyke site and look for something here on list.
  
 Someone have an trick ? Or it´s just normal? Remember, all messages get the 
 same time to be delivered on mailboxes when graylisted.
  
 Thanks!
  
 Here is my spamdyke conf:
  
 dns-blacklist-entry=zen.spamhaus.org
 dns-blacklist-entry=bl.spamcop.net
 graylist-dir=/var/spamdyke/graylist
 graylist-level=always
 graylist-max-secs=2678400
 graylist-min-secs=180
 greeting-delay-secs=5
 idle-timeout-secs=60
 ip-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_ip
 ip-in-rdns-keyword-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_keywords
 ip-in-rdns-keyword-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_keywords
 ip-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_ip
 local-domains-file=/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
 log-level=info
 log-target=stderr
 max-recipients=50
 #policy-url=http://my.policy.explanation.url/
 rdns-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_rdns
 rdns-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_rdns
 recipient-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_recipients
 reject-empty-rdns
 #reject-ip-in-cc-rdns
 reject-missing-sender-mx
 reject-unresolvable-rdns
 sender-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_senders
 sender-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_senders
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Re: RES: [qmailtoaster] Spamdyke Graylist Delay

2010-07-01 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
On a server I use it on, I have left the default settings intact. The timing 
settings you posted look like the default to me, so, I think all is in order.

You just have to be aware that graylisting causes delays.

Note: If you look at the graylist-max-secs=2678400, that means 44640 minutes or 
744 hours or 31 days. You can be pretty sure that any normal mail server would 
have retried well before that time runs out.

Martin


Am 01.07.2010 um 16:42 schrieb Thiago - TI - Realeza:

 Yes... could make sense
 
 Do you think that I have to change max/min secs from graylist?
 
 Thanks Martin
 
 Thiago
 
 -Mensagem original-
 De: Martin Waschbuesch [mailto:mar...@waschbuesch.de] 
 Enviada em: quinta-feira, 1 de julho de 2010 11:36
 Para: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Assunto: Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamdyke Graylist Delay
 
 Hi there,
 
 This is very normal behaviour. Graylisting not only depends on your server's
 timing settings, but on the behavior of the sending MTA. If that MTA does
 not retry within a given time (that is what you can configure) the mail will
 not be delivered, but regarded as spam. However, the time the sending server
 waits before resending is not something you can configure.
 
 That means that as long as the sending server's reply in a timeframe defined
 by your graylist-min-secs and graylist-max-secs, the mail will be delivered
 with exactly the retr delay that the sending server's admin had configured.
 
 Makes sense?
 
 Martin
 
 
 Am 01.07.2010 um 16:22 schrieb Thiago - TI - Realeza:
 
 Hello all
 
 I have some “trouble” here.
 
 For example, when I receive a message and spamdyke graylist it, I have an
 delay about 20 minutes to the message be delivered on my mailbox.
 
 Here is a log
 
 07-01 10:37:50 spamdyke[17408]: DENIED_GRAYLISTED from:
 mailerweb.boletim.geh...@gehaka.com.br to: rodrigo.so...@domain.ind.br
 origin_ip: 201.6.108.170 origin_rdns: mail.gehaka.com.br auth: (unknown)
 
 
 The message was delivered on my server at 10:37AM but was in my mailbox
 20 minutes later. It happens with all messages that are graylisted.
 
 I have ‘played’ with this conf a lot, mostly with graylist options. Read
 all documentation on spamdyke site and look for something here on list.
 
 Someone have an trick ? Or it´s just normal? Remember, all messages get
 the same time to be delivered on mailboxes when graylisted.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Here is my spamdyke conf:
 
 dns-blacklist-entry=zen.spamhaus.org
 dns-blacklist-entry=bl.spamcop.net
 graylist-dir=/var/spamdyke/graylist
 graylist-level=always
 graylist-max-secs=2678400
 graylist-min-secs=180
 greeting-delay-secs=5
 idle-timeout-secs=60
 ip-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_ip
 ip-in-rdns-keyword-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_keywords
 ip-in-rdns-keyword-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_keywords
 ip-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_ip
 local-domains-file=/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
 log-level=info
 log-target=stderr
 max-recipients=50
 #policy-url=http://my.policy.explanation.url/
 rdns-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_rdns
 rdns-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_rdns
 recipient-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_recipients
 reject-empty-rdns
 #reject-ip-in-cc-rdns
 reject-missing-sender-mx
 reject-unresolvable-rdns
 sender-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_senders
 sender-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_senders
 tls-certificate-file=/var/qmail/control/servercert.pem
 
 
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[qmailtoaster] Spamassassin question

2010-06-30 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi all,

Is there a way to modify QMT to allow for per user or at least per domain 
bayes-db?
I know that simscan has some sort of support for it, though there is trouble 
with mails to multiple recipients.

If anyone has any ideas - let me know.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamassassin question

2010-06-30 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Am 30.06.2010 um 20:14 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 
 Not easily. There has been some discussion of this in the past on the list, 
 so you might find something in the archives.
 
 SA isn't as well suited to individual configurations as dspam, although 
 domain-based configuration might not be so bad. If I absolutely had to set up 
 individual bayes databases, I'd look closer into dspam. Before doing that 
 though, I'd look very carefully at the problem that this is intended to solve 
 (which you haven't shared with us).
 
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Thanks, Eric. It is not a must and currently there are no problems with 
site-wide learning. I just wondered if it was sort of easily done.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Vacation Notice with hyphen emails.

2010-06-30 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
As far as I recall, there is something about hyphens in vpopmail that does not 
work? Or was that only in connection with ezmlm?
But anyway, I know I have come across something like this before, too.

Martin

Am 30.06.2010 um 20:42 schrieb P.V.Anthony:

 Hi,
 
 Currently having some problems with vacation notice in qmailadmin.
 
 Here are want was done.
 
 1. Created an email account as test-t...@sound.com.sg
 2. Created a vacation notice in qmailadmin for test-t...@sound.com.sg
 3. Sent an email to test-t...@sound.com.sg
 
 Did not get the autorespond.
 
 Then created test.t...@sound.com.sg and created the vacation notice.
 Sent an email and got the autorespond.
 
 Can anyone confirm that this is the same behaviour on their systems as well?
 
 If not, please let me know what to check. Maybe I may have missed some
 setting.
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] spamassassin

2010-06-21 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi Mike,

No, I am not using SpamDyke as of yet.

Thanks!!

Martin

Am 20.06.2010 um 23:27 schrieb Michael Colvin:

 Are you using SpamDyke?  If so, and you are checking for RDNS there, that
 would seem duplicative to me.  I block any mail server that does not have
 RDNS using SpamDyke.  Better to stop it there than waste time scanning it
 with SpamAssassin...
 
  
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 www.norcalisp.com
  
 
 
 
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 Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 1:57 AM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] spamassassin
 
 Found it myself:
 
 In /var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run, I had forgotten to enable rDNS (default
 seems to be off), by changing the -H flag to -h.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Martin
 
 Am 20.06.2010 um 10:48 schrieb Martin Waschbuesch:
 
 Hi all,
 
 There is something weird I noticed in my logs: every email I receive
 gets marked as RDNS_NONE by spamassassin. This was not the case with my
 previous setup. lookup and reverse lookup work, so I am at a loss as to
 why this is? Perhaps some perl module I have not installed, etc?
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: spamassassin

2010-06-21 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Thanks for the explanation Eric  Michael,

I would like to use SpamDyke, but only very ver conservatively. E.g. if I could 
block people that I block now (cbl.abuseat.org) during SMTP, that would be 
great. The other features like greylisting etc., I would not like to use.
My own policy (as long as my mail server has the bandwidth to handle it) is to 
let anything in that *might* be legit. I know that people with wrong DNS setup 
should not send out mail into the world like that, but I prefer this to just 
add to their spam score in spamassassin instead of blocking people who just 
don't know better. (They need educating, not blocking) and it IS hard to 
explain false positives to endusers... As I explained in a different post, my 
setup does not throw stuff away, but puts spam into a 'dubious looking' folder 
and users have to decide what to do with it - which is what they got for 
complaining about said false positives too often ;-)

Anyway, Is it possible to use SpamDyke for just that? a very conservative DNSBL 
like abuseat and nothing else??

Martin

Am 21.06.2010 um 17:01 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 I agree with Michael that spamdyke is great. Highly recommended.
 
 I'd like to clarify the tcpserver -h option though. This option does do an 
 rDNS lookup which is duplicative with spamdyke, but I think it's best to do 
 both, as they're used for different purposes. Spamdyke uses rDNS for 
 blocking. Tcpserver's -h option simply sets the TCPREMOTEHOST variable, which 
 does no blocking of any kind, but does provide more complete logging 
 messages. The overhead of the duplicate rDNS lookup is negligible 
 (immeasurable I expect), since the lookup is cached. That's why I think it's 
 best to have both.
 
 Sam C (spamdyke's author) discusses this (and other things) here:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/spamdyke-us...@spamdyke.org/msg00842.html
 
 -- 
 -Eric 'shubes'
 
 Michael Colvin wrote:
 Are you using SpamDyke?  If so, and you are checking for RDNS there, that
 would seem duplicative to me.  I block any mail server that does not have
 RDNS using SpamDyke.  Better to stop it there than waste time scanning it
 with SpamAssassin...
 Michael J. Colvin
 NorCal Internet Services
 www.norcalisp.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Waschbuesch [mailto:mar...@waschbuesch.de]
 Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 1:57 AM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] spamassassin
 
 Found it myself:
 
 In /var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run, I had forgotten to enable rDNS (default
 seems to be off), by changing the -H flag to -h.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Martin
 
 Am 20.06.2010 um 10:48 schrieb Martin Waschbuesch:
 
 Hi all,
 
 There is something weird I noticed in my logs: every email I receive
 gets marked as RDNS_NONE by spamassassin. This was not the case with my
 previous setup. lookup and reverse lookup work, so I am at a loss as to
 why this is? Perhaps some perl module I have not installed, etc?
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: spamassassin

2010-06-21 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Perfect.

Oh, and, I only wanted to explain why it'd be important for me to deselect 
features of spamdyke that don't fit my needs.

Martin

Am 21.06.2010 um 18:09 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 You can use whichever features you choose. It's up to you.
 
 Of course fighting spam is always a balancing act with a wide array of 
 dependencies. Finding the best balance takes some doing. The flexiblity that 
 spamyke provides makes it useful in most circumstances.
 
 Note, I don't necessarily agree with your policy, but I don't see any purpose 
 in debating it here. If it works for you, great. However, you can use a lot 
 more of spamdyke's filters than one RBL, without getting any false positives.
 
 -- 
 -Eric 'shubes'
 
 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Thanks for the explanation Eric  Michael,
 I would like to use SpamDyke, but only very ver conservatively. E.g. if I 
 could block people that I block now (cbl.abuseat.org) during SMTP, that 
 would be great. The other features like greylisting etc., I would not like 
 to use.
 My own policy (as long as my mail server has the bandwidth to handle it) is 
 to let anything in that *might* be legit. I know that people with wrong DNS 
 setup should not send out mail into the world like that, but I prefer this 
 to just add to their spam score in spamassassin instead of blocking people 
 who just don't know better. (They need educating, not blocking) and it IS 
 hard to explain false positives to endusers... As I explained in a different 
 post, my setup does not throw stuff away, but puts spam into a 'dubious 
 looking' folder and users have to decide what to do with it - which is what 
 they got for complaining about said false positives too often ;-)
 Anyway, Is it possible to use SpamDyke for just that? a very conservative 
 DNSBL like abuseat and nothing else??
 Martin
 Am 21.06.2010 um 17:01 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 I agree with Michael that spamdyke is great. Highly recommended.
 
 I'd like to clarify the tcpserver -h option though. This option does do an 
 rDNS lookup which is duplicative with spamdyke, but I think it's best to do 
 both, as they're used for different purposes. Spamdyke uses rDNS for 
 blocking. Tcpserver's -h option simply sets the TCPREMOTEHOST variable, 
 which does no blocking of any kind, but does provide more complete logging 
 messages. The overhead of the duplicate rDNS lookup is negligible 
 (immeasurable I expect), since the lookup is cached. That's why I think 
 it's best to have both.
 
 Sam C (spamdyke's author) discusses this (and other things) here:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/spamdyke-us...@spamdyke.org/msg00842.html
 
 -- 
 -Eric 'shubes'
 
 Michael Colvin wrote:
 Are you using SpamDyke?  If so, and you are checking for RDNS there, that
 would seem duplicative to me.  I block any mail server that does not have
 RDNS using SpamDyke.  Better to stop it there than waste time scanning it
 with SpamAssassin...
 Michael J. Colvin
 NorCal Internet Services
 www.norcalisp.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Waschbuesch [mailto:mar...@waschbuesch.de]
 Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 1:57 AM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] spamassassin
 
 Found it myself:
 
 In /var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run, I had forgotten to enable rDNS (default
 seems to be off), by changing the -H flag to -h.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Martin
 
 Am 20.06.2010 um 10:48 schrieb Martin Waschbuesch:
 
 Hi all,
 
 There is something weird I noticed in my logs: every email I receive
 gets marked as RDNS_NONE by spamassassin. This was not the case with my
 previous setup. lookup and reverse lookup work, so I am at a loss as to
 why this is? Perhaps some perl module I have not installed, etc?
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[qmailtoaster] spamassassin

2010-06-20 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi all,

There is something weird I noticed in my logs: every email I receive gets 
marked as RDNS_NONE by spamassassin. This was not the case with my previous 
setup. lookup and reverse lookup work, so I am at a loss as to why this is? 
Perhaps some perl module I have not installed, etc?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] spamassassin

2010-06-20 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Found it myself:

In /var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run, I had forgotten to enable rDNS (default seems 
to be off), by changing the -H flag to -h.

Thanks,

Martin

Am 20.06.2010 um 10:48 schrieb Martin Waschbuesch:

 Hi all,
 
 There is something weird I noticed in my logs: every email I receive gets 
 marked as RDNS_NONE by spamassassin. This was not the case with my previous 
 setup. lookup and reverse lookup work, so I am at a loss as to why this is? 
 Perhaps some perl module I have not installed, etc?
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: freshclam logwatch

2010-06-19 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi Eric,

I also applied the patch you mentioned, restored the updated (e.g. with 
'LogTime Yes'  freshclam.conf) and this is the result in my logwatch email:

- clam-update Begin  

Last ClamAV update process started at Sat Jun 18 19:38:50 2010

Last Status:
   main.cvd is up to date (version: 52, sigs: 704727, f-level: 44, builder: 
sven)
   daily.cld is up to date (version: 11220, sigs: 96675, f-level: 51, builder: 
guitar)
   bytecode.cld is up to date (version: 26, sigs: 3, f-level: 51, builder: 
nervous)

-- clam-update End - 

It works and I prefer this solution to changing what freshclam does by default 
when installing the package.

Thanks,

Martin

Am 19.06.2010 um 19:25 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 Finn Buhelt wrote:
 Hi Eric.
 I have checked clamav-toaster-0.95.3.1.3.31  : logtime set to default NO
   clamav-toaster-0.96.0.1.3   : logtime set to 
 YES (faulty)
   clamav-toaster-0-96.1.1.3.36 : logtime set to YES 
 (faulty)
 This indicates a change in the freshclam.conf file when moving from version 
 0.95 to 0.96 - there are also other changes in the conf file. There seems to 
 be new directives from ver. 0.96 - all are at the end of the conf file 
 (statistics, google browsing etc) but they are all disabled and has nothing 
 to do with the logtime directive, but maybe the logtime change has sneaked 
 in when adding these new features.
 I think that everyone that installs from scratch and all that uses 
 qtp-update gets the faulty logtime setting (I think qtp-update overwrites 
 the current freshclam.conf when put into production).
 
 No, qtp-newmodel (not qtp-update) follows whatever rules are in the spec file 
 for configs.
 
 Only if You 'manually' rpm updates  You 'only' get the faulty setting in the 
 freshclam.conf.rpmnew file - this ofcourse only if the logtime setting was 
 disabled in the freshclam.conf file You are updating.
 
 That's because the freshclam.conf file is now coded as 'noreplace' in the 
 spec file, which is correct (imho). I don't believe this was always the case, 
 as I have 2 freshclam.conf.rpmsave files (dated Jan and Apr this year), which 
 indicate that 'noreplace' was added fairly recently. BTW, both rpmsave files 
 have LogTime commented out.
 
 So here's what I think. 0.96.0 introduced LogTime Yes, and did not have 
 noreplace in the spec file, so anyone upgrading/installing 0.96.0 got the new 
 setting. Then 0.96.1 came out, again with LogTime Yes, but the config was 
 changed to noreplace. So anyone upgrading from a version previous to 0.96.0 
 to version 0.96.1 is ok, but anyone who had 0.96.0 installed in any way (new 
 or upgraded) has LogTime Yes.
 
 But  why, may we ask, is the logtime directive in there at all ? It is not 
 documented anywhere as being a valid setting in the freshclam.conf file !
 
 It's documented in the config file. ;) Sometimes the man pages aren't kept up 
 to date, or things get missed in the documentation, especially on a .0 
 release.
 
 IMHO, a log file w/out time stamps on every line are deficient. I really like 
 the option. However, the time format should be consistent with the syslog 
 format (which it is not).
 
 I believe the best remedy for this problem is to fix logwatch to deal 
 appropriately with the timestamp in the log. The fix I referred to yesterday 
 does appear to work fine. The fix isn't very robust though, as  the format of 
 the timestamp is not flexible at all. That's a fault in logwatch though, not 
 clamav.
 
 BTW You are not loosing it - I think many would have lost their minds having 
 all these threads going on in this forum as You have - I know everyone in 
 here appreciates the huge effort You put into responding to all our 
 'challenges'  - so keep up the good work - You are not allowed to loose 
 anything ;-)
 
 Ha! Thanks.
 
 Thanx,
 Finn
 - Original Message - From: Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 1:45 AM
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: freshclam  logwatch
 Finn Buhelt wrote:
 Hi Eric.
 
 Now I've done some research regarding the logtime 'feature'.
 
 According to documentation there is no 'logtime directive' in a 
 freshclam.conf file - even looking through some of the sourcecode 
 (freshclam) I cannot find anything that deals with such a directive - well 
 okay it's been many years since I did code so I may absolutely have missed 
 something.
 
 But I did check/unpack latest clamav-toaster-0.96.1.1.3.36.rpm and found 
 that the logtime is set to YES in the freshclam.conf file - which matches 
 perfectly with my own latest freshclam.conf.rpmnew 
 (etc/freshclam.conf.rpmnew) file that has the YES setting.
 
 I think the YES setting may have been introduced when 
 clamav-toaster-0.96.0* was made, because it was that time I had the issue 
 at first (back in April) - I also recall that I used 

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: freshclam logwatch

2010-06-18 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Apparently, when you set logtime to no, logwatch will pick up on a time stamp:

--
freshclam daemon 0.96.1 (OS: linux-gnu, ARCH: x86_64, CPU: x86_64)
ClamAV update process started at Thu Jun 17 12:05:46 2010
main.cvd is up to date (version: 52, sigs: 704727, f-level: 44, builder: sven)
daily.cld is up to date (version: 11212, sigs: 96650, f-level: 51, builder: 
ccordes)
bytecode.cld is up to date (version: 26, sigs: 3, f-level: 51, builder: nervous)
--

So, it works again for me! AND you still have date information.

Thanks,

Martin

Am 18.06.2010 um 03:31 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 Perhaps the clamav-toaster version of freshclam.conf needs updating.
 
 Would you care to diff the toaster version with the current stock clamav 
 version?
 
 -- 
 -Eric 'shubes'
 
 Finn Buhelt wrote:
 Hi Eric.
 FYI - just checked documentation for freshclam.conf  - there's is no logtime 
 directive according to Manual Reference Pages  freshclam.conf (5) !
 /Finn
 - Original Message - From: Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 12:22 AM
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: freshclam  logwatch
 While disabling logtime might get rid of the message, I don't think it's 
 the right fix. I would expect that disabling logtime would prohibit 
 logwatch from showing *any* freshclam information, as logwatch wouldn't be 
 able to tell which messages are from which date. Log messages without a 
 time stamp are pretty much useless imo. Unless I'm misunderstanding what 
 this option does. I think it's intended for configurations where log 
 messages go to the syslog, which puts its own timestamp on messages.
 
 
 Finn Buhelt wrote:
 Hi Martin.
 
 In addition to removing the 1'st line in the logfile do this :
 
 In the freshclam.conf file (/etc/freshclam.conf) disable logtime from yes 
 to NO.
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Error

2010-06-18 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
I would recommend doing a

yum search Bignum

for instance.

The result is (on my machine):


# yum search bignum
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * addons: centos.intergenia.de
 * base: ftp.plusline.de
 * extras: centos.intergenia.de
 * rpmforge: ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de
 * updates: centos.intergenia.de
Excluding Packages in global exclude list
Finished
=== Matched: bignum 
clisp.x86_64 : ANSI Common Lisp implementation
perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-Bignum.x86_64 : OpenSSL's multiprecision integer arithmetic

yum install perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-Bignum

will do the trick - did for me anyway.

sa-compile should solve the other problem.

Am 18.06.2010 um 12:39 schrieb Scott Hughes:

 No, I don't think I've ever ran sa-compile.
 
 Scott
 
 
 
 On Jun 18, 2010, at 2:20 AM, Sérgio Rosa sergior...@awd.pt wrote:
 
 Maxwell Smart wrote:
 I am pretty sure those are Perl modules you'll need to install.
 
 On 06/17/2010 08:04 PM, Scott Hughes wrote:
 I am getting the following error in my Spamassassin log:
 
 
 error: Can't locate Mail/SpamAssassin/CompiledRegexps/body_0.pm in @INC 
 (@INC contains: /var/lib/spamassassin/compiled/5.008/3.002005 
 /var/lib/spamassassin/compiled/5.008/3.002005/auto lib 
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi 
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8 
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi 
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl 
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi 
 /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8) at (eval 1384) line 1.
 
 
 I assume as it states it can't find body_0.pm.  I'm just not sure how to 
 resolve this issue or if it will resolve itself on the next update.
 
 I also get a similar message for 'Bignum.pm' (can't locate) and 
 freemail.pm' (failed to parse).
 
 Has anyone seen this error before?  I don't seem to be able to find 
 anything on this error on the Spamassassin site or by Googling it.  I get 
 hits all around it, but nothing that is exactly on target.
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: freshclam logwatch

2010-06-18 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Eric,

I know how mine came to be in that state now.

Before I reinstalled my server with x86_64, it had also run 0.96.1 (I upgraded 
to that version of clamav when it came out).
Now, upgrading will only create a freshclam.conf_rpmnew file instead of 
overwriting the old one.
I still had the backup of the old server and said freshclam.conf_rpmnew file 
DID contain the LogTime yes directive.

Now with the new installation, of course that directive was also used as it was 
the first time the 0.96.1 version of the clamav package was installed.

Can anyone confirm that is what happened to them too?

It may be that a fresh install (or --force option to replace files) will cause 
it and a simple update won't.

Martin

Am 18.06.2010 um 17:40 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 I see from the /usr/share/logwatch/scripts/services/clam-update script that 
 the date on the 'started' line is used, so it doesn't need the other dates. 
 Bad assumption on my part.
 
 I'm getting the same problem as Martin had on only one of several servers. I 
 though that they were all configured the same (they're all running 0.96.1), 
 but I checked them out and found that indeed the problem host had LogTime 
 yes uncommented. Finn, I'm sorry I ever doubted you! My apologies.
 
 That brings 2 questions to mind:
 
 1) How did some servers end up with this setting, yet others did not?
 
 I'm not really worried about this, but it's a little perplexing to me. 
 Perhaps I turned it on at some point, but there are 2 .rpmsave files, and 
 both have it commented out. I'm guessing that it had something to do with the 
 upgrade path.
 
 2) Can the logwatch clam-update script be fixed to handle the LogTime yes 
 configuration setting?
 
 I found a patch for the clam-update script at 
 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.log.logwatch.devel/1622 that I'll try 
 out. I'll try it with both LogTime settings, and see what happens with 
 tomorrow's logwatch run. (I'm a little too busy to test it manually). This 
 patch was first submitted Jul'08 on the logwatch-devel list. I've inquired as 
 to which release (if any) it's been included with.
 
 
 Also, Martin, is the message you show from the log I take it? What message 
 are you getting in the logwatch output? I'm getting:
 - clam-update Begin 
 
 Last ClamAV update process started at Thu Jun 17 23:03:32 2010
 
 Last Status:
main.cvd is up to date (version: 52, sigs: 704727, f-level: 44, builder: 
 sven)
daily.cld is up to date (version: 11212, sigs: 96650, f-level: 51, 
 builder: ccordes)
bytecode.cld is up to date (version: 26, sigs: 3, f-level: 51, builder: 
 nervous)
 
 -- clam-update End -
 
 
 -- 
 -Eric 'shubes'
 
 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Apparently, when you set logtime to no, logwatch will pick up on a time 
 stamp:
 --
 freshclam daemon 0.96.1 (OS: linux-gnu, ARCH: x86_64, CPU: x86_64)
 ClamAV update process started at Thu Jun 17 12:05:46 2010
 main.cvd is up to date (version: 52, sigs: 704727, f-level: 44, builder: 
 sven)
 daily.cld is up to date (version: 11212, sigs: 96650, f-level: 51, builder: 
 ccordes)
 bytecode.cld is up to date (version: 26, sigs: 3, f-level: 51, builder: 
 nervous)
 --
 So, it works again for me! AND you still have date information.
 Thanks,
 Martin
 Am 18.06.2010 um 03:31 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 Perhaps the clamav-toaster version of freshclam.conf needs updating.
 
 Would you care to diff the toaster version with the current stock clamav 
 version?
 
 -- 
 -Eric 'shubes'
 
 Finn Buhelt wrote:
 Hi Eric.
 FYI - just checked documentation for freshclam.conf  - there's is no 
 logtime directive according to Manual Reference Pages  freshclam.conf (5) !
 /Finn
 - Original Message - From: Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 12:22 AM
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: freshclam  logwatch
 While disabling logtime might get rid of the message, I don't think it's 
 the right fix. I would expect that disabling logtime would prohibit 
 logwatch from showing *any* freshclam information, as logwatch wouldn't 
 be able to tell which messages are from which date. Log messages without 
 a time stamp are pretty much useless imo. Unless I'm misunderstanding 
 what this option does. I think it's intended for configurations where log 
 messages go to the syslog, which puts its own timestamp on messages.
 
 
 Finn Buhelt wrote:
 Hi Martin.
 
 In addition to removing the 1'st line in the logfile do this :
 
 In the freshclam.conf file (/etc/freshclam.conf) disable logtime from 
 yes to NO.
 
 Regards,
 
 Finn Buhelt
 
 
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] freshclam logwatch

2010-06-17 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi Dave and thanks for the hint. This did not work for me, unfortunately...

Am 17.06.2010 um 16:38 schrieb Dave Hallowell:

 Oops,
 Try this one instead 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg27445.html
 Says:
 I have removed 1'st line in the freshclam.log file (vim 
 /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log) and since then I'm getting proper information 
 in my logwatch.
 Dave
 
 
 
 On 6/17/2010 9:18 AM, Dave Hallowell wrote:
 Martin,
 check this link
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg27449.html
 
 Dave
 
 On 6/17/2010 12:06 AM, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
   
 
 Hi all,
 
 Although freshclam is definitely running (and working,too), and there is a 
 valid and readable freshclam.log in /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log, I get 
 the folllowing via my daily logwatch:
 
 - clam-update Begin  
 
 The ClamAV update process (freshclam daemon) was not running!
 If you no longer wish to run freshclam, deleting the freshclam.log
 file will suppress this error message.
 
 -- clam-update End - 
 
 Anyone any idea why this might be?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: freshclam logwatch

2010-06-17 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi Eric,

I tried what Dave had suggested to no avail. Now, I deleted the logfile, ran 
'service freshclam restart' and this is the logfile in 
/var/log/clamav/freshclam.log:

Thu Jun 17 19:10:14 2010 - --
Thu Jun 17 19:10:14 2010 - freshclam daemon 0.96.1 (OS: linux-gnu, ARCH: 
x86_64, CPU: x86_64)
Thu Jun 17 19:10:14 2010 - ClamAV update process started at Thu Jun 17 
19:10:14 2010
Thu Jun 17 19:10:14 2010 - main.cvd is up to date (version: 52, sigs: 704727, 
f-level: 44, builder: sven)
Thu Jun 17 19:10:14 2010 - daily.cld is up to date (version: 11207, sigs: 
96571, f-level: 51, builder: ccordes)
Thu Jun 17 19:10:14 2010 - bytecode.cld is up to date (version: 26, sigs: 3, 
f-level: 51, builder: nervous)
Thu Jun 17 19:10:14 2010 - --


The result for logwatch is still (I ran it manually):

- clam-update Begin  

The ClamAV update process (freshclam daemon) was not running!
If you no longer wish to run freshclam, deleting the freshclam.log
file will suppress this error message.

-- clam-update End - 

Now, one thing I wondered about is this: I am running CentOS 5.5 - perhaps 
that, too has to do with this behaviour?

Thanks,

Martin

Am 17.06.2010 um 17:07 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Hi all,
 Although freshclam is definitely running (and working,too), and there is a 
 valid and readable freshclam.log in /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log, I get the 
 folllowing via my daily logwatch:
 - clam-update Begin  The ClamAV 
 update process (freshclam daemon) was not running!
 If you no longer wish to run freshclam, deleting the freshclam.log
 file will suppress this error message.
 -- clam-update End - Anyone any 
 idea why this might be?
 Thanks,
 Martin
 --
 
 I noticed this recently as well, but didn't get around to trying to debug it.
 
 There might be a subtle bug in the 
 /usr/share/logwatch/scripts/services/clam-update script, although that script 
 hasn't been touched in over 4 years.
 
 Please post the contents of your /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log file that 
 correspond to the date in question, and we'll see if we can't determine what 
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[qmailtoaster] freshclam logwatch

2010-06-16 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi all,

Although freshclam is definitely running (and working,too), and there is a 
valid and readable freshclam.log in /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log, I get the 
folllowing via my daily logwatch:

- clam-update Begin  

The ClamAV update process (freshclam daemon) was not running!
If you no longer wish to run freshclam, deleting the freshclam.log
file will suppress this error message.

-- clam-update End - 

Anyone any idea why this might be?

Thanks,

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: dovecot install error

2010-06-15 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi Rajesh,

If you are talking about the squirrelmail plugin to change passwords, that 
would not talk to the IMAP server as far as I recall. It would either use 
vpopmails command line tools to change the password or else write in the DB 
directly?
In any case, while I am sure you can use an MAP server to check authentication 
(squirrel and horde can use that for login), I am not aware that IMAP offers a 
means to SET a password.

Martin

Am 15.06.2010 um 16:52 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 Rajesh M wrote:
 hi
 just clarify i was using the change_pass plugin which used work with
 poppassd daemon
 i need a similar solution in dovecot please
 
 I'm not familiar off hand with this plugin, or how it works. I'm a little 
 surprised that it would quit working with dovecot though. I don't see what 
 dovecot would have to do with changing passwords. Wouldn't the users use 
 qmailadmin to change change their passwords?
 
 Perhaps someone else here is familiar with the change_pass plugin.
 
 secondly
 i have several domains already using courier imap. do i need to convert
 mailboxes as mentioned here
 http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Replacing_Courier_IMAP_with_Dovecot_IMAP
 
 I don't know the definitive answer. I don't believe it's absolutely required, 
 but I expect it might make your transition smoother, as users wouldn't need 
 to re-subscribe to their folders.
 
 Please ask this question on the dovecot list (dove...@dovecot.org). I'd like 
 to see what the experts there have to say about it.
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] dovecot install error

2010-06-12 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi,

Did you by chance copy  paste the command from the wiki? If so, I have seen 
some strange SCII character conversions happen that way. so, I'd suggest trying 
to retype the whole command manually the way the option is shown in the man 
page for rpmbuild.

Cause when I type your command manually, I get what I would expect:

rpmbuild -ba --target=i686 dovecot.spec
Building target platforms: i686
Building for target i686
error: failed to stat /root/dovecot.spec: No such file or directory

When I copy  paste what the text command from your mail, I get the wrong:

rpmbuild –ba --target=i686 dovecot.spec
Building target platforms: i686
Building for target i686
error: failed to stat /root/–ba: No such file or directory

So, there must be a difference in the character you use.

Martin


Am 12.06.2010 um 04:41 schrieb Rajesh M:

 hi
 
 
 i followed the instructions as posted by mr amit
 http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg25551.html
 
 i downloaded the rpm from
 
 http://dl.atrpms.net/all/dovecot-1.2.11-3_108.src.rpm
 
 and put it in /usr/src/qtms-install
 
 
 rpm -i dovecot*.src.rpm
 
 it gave a warning
 
 warning: dovecot-1.2.11-3_108.src.rpm Header V4 DSA signature: NOKEY,
 key
 ID 6534c2b
 
 when i did
 
 rpmbuild –ba --target=i686 dovecot.spec
 
 i got error
 
 rpmbuild failed to stat /usr/src/qtms-install/-ba
 
 no such file or directory  i am stuck here.
 
 help required please
 
 if any body has implemented this i would like the exact steps please
 
 thanks very much
 
 
 What system are you building on?
 I'd venture to guess that you're in the wrong directory. If you're running
 CentOS, you want to be in /usr/src/redhat/SPECS to run the command you
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 no such file or directory
 
 i think this is some other issue --- why is it considering the option
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[qmailtoaster] QControl

2010-06-10 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi Jake,

I just upgraded (and reinstalled) one toaster that is now running CentOS 5.5 
x86_64. Everything runs just smooth and lovely, except one thing.
I (on purpose) removed all i386/i686 packages and libraries from CentOs and now 
I find that QControl is not quite noarch after all:

# rpm -i QControl-1.1-1.1.1.noarch.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
libc.so.6 is needed by QControl-1.1-1.1.1.noarch
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by QControl-1.1-1.1.1.noarch
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by QControl-1.1-1.1.1.noarch

# locate libc.so.6
/lib64/libc.so.6

I could, of course, reinstall the i386 lib, but just in case there could be a 
different solution (e.g. a x86_64 compile) ...

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Re: [qmailtoaster] QControl

2010-06-10 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi Jake,

Am 11.06.2010 um 01:53 schrieb Jake Vickers:

 
 Thanks for finding this. Seems I'll have to create two builds in the future.
 There won't be a fix until I create the next version. If it's REALLY an issue 
 for you, I'll compile on a x86_64 for you and send you the executable.


No, that's alright. As long as it's on your todo list somewhere that's fine 
with me. :-)

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: where's the site?

2010-06-03 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Very good. I saw the two posts this morning - it just looked so weird  
to see total silence on the list. I'll look forward to the thread you  
mention and will join the discussion then.


Thanks,

Martin

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 03.06.2010 um 17:55 schrieb Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net:


GHS Toaster List account wrote:

Hi all,
I'd like to install qmailtoaster plus; done that a few times  
before, but...

The site is down? I get a server 500 error:
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and  
was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, [no address given] and  
inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might  
have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server  
error log.

Apache/2.2 Server at qtp.qmailtoaster.com Port 80
So, what do I do?
Thanx,
Casper


The trac portion of the site is still being rebuilt. The recovery  
process is partially out of our hands, so is taking longer than we'd  
like. We appreciate your patience with this, and will be taking  
measures to prevent such delays in the future.


In the meantime, the qtp yum repo is up and running, so you can get  
the packages there.


I would install the qtp repo first:
# rpm -Uvh \ 
http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com/repos/nodist/qmailtoaster-plus.repo-0.2-2.noarch.rpm

Then install QTP:
# yum install qmailtoaster-plus

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: where's the site?

2010-06-03 Thread Martin Waschbuesch

I obviously replied to the wrong mail...
Sorry.

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 03.06.2010 um 18:02 schrieb Martin Waschbuesch  
mar...@waschbuesch.de:


Very good. I saw the two posts this morning - it just looked so  
weird to see total silence on the list. I'll look forward to the  
thread you mention and will join the discussion then.


Thanks,

Martin

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 03.06.2010 um 17:55 schrieb Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net:


GHS Toaster List account wrote:

Hi all,
I'd like to install qmailtoaster plus; done that a few times  
before, but...

The site is down? I get a server 500 error:
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and  
was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, [no address given] and  
inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might  
have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server  
error log.

Apache/2.2 Server at qtp.qmailtoaster.com Port 80
So, what do I do?
Thanx,
Casper


The trac portion of the site is still being rebuilt. The recovery  
process is partially out of our hands, so is taking longer than  
we'd like. We appreciate your patience with this, and will be  
taking measures to prevent such delays in the future.


In the meantime, the qtp yum repo is up and running, so you can get  
the packages there.


I would install the qtp repo first:
# rpm -Uvh \ 
http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com/repos/nodist/qmailtoaster-plus.repo-0.2-2.noarch.rpm

Then install QTP:
# yum install qmailtoaster-plus

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Horde Webmail

2010-05-31 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
I am using horde for a long time (even before using qmailtoaster), so I wanted 
to stick with it. Works like a charm.

There is a good installation-howto for horde and centos:

http://wiki.horde.org/CentOS5InstallationNotes

Just ignore the postfix stuff (or dovecot in case you stick with the original 
courier). Worked for me.

Martin


Am 01.06.2010 um 00:29 schrieb Scott Hughes:

 I'm just curious if anyone is using Horde webmail on their QMT system?  If 
 so, how difficult and involved was the install process.  Horde has a lot of 
 good features that I believe my users would benefit from, but it also looks 
 like a bear of an install and upkeep.
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Support OpenSuse 11.2 *SOLVED*

2010-05-25 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Btw., just slightly off topic:

I also upgraded from Centos 5.4 to 5.5 without any issues. Just in case people 
wanted to wait until they heard from more folks before doing so themselves...

Martin

Am 25.05.2010 um 12:50 schrieb Phil Leinhauser:

 You won’t be sorry!!
  
 From: Roman Marlovits (WEBCOMPLETE.at) 
 [mailto:roman.marlov...@webcomplete.at] 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:09 AM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: AW: [qmailtoaster] Support OpenSuse 11.2 *SOLVED*
  
 I changed to CentOS 5.5 ;-)
  
 Does somebody know if OpenSuse 11.2 will be supported in the next few 
 days/weeks? i have to setup a new server. Support Open Suse 10.3 will be or 
 is already discontinued:  
 http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-announce/2009-08/msg8.html And now i 
 want to use 11.2 or 11.3 with qmail-toaster.
  
 I have some experience with older installations. i use qmail since 2001. If 
 there is a workaround to bring up last version of toster with OpenSuse 11.2 I 
 would be very thankfull if somebody could help me or somebody could give me a 
 hint where i can find more information.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Strange Dovecot Issue

2010-05-16 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
will do.

:-)

 
 Please bring this up on the devel list, Martin. I'm sure that Jake will 
 welcome the help, but this should be done in a coordinated effort. Given that 
 dovecot will hopefully be part of the QMTv2 release, we want to be sure that 
 the interim dovecot configurations don't conflict with future plans, and the 
 transition is smooth for everyone. I'm mostly concerned about the 
 dovecot.conf configuration, but there are other considerations as well, such 
 as whether or not dovecot's pop3 is used.
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Strange Dovecot Issue

2010-05-15 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
All,

what does it take to put a known-to-work source tarball together with the steps 
in the wiki to create a source rpm?
I have not dealt with package creation so far, but I think that would be the 
logical next step. If anyone can give any pointers, I'd volunteer to do this.

Martin

PS: Almost forgot. I also switched to dovecot based on the wiki page and I love 
it. Definite improvement.

Am 15.05.2010 um 15:06 schrieb Scott Hughes:

 Eric,
 
 Adding those additional mechanisms seems to have solved the problem.
 
 I'll attempt to update the wiki page (as long as no one minds, of course).
 
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[qmailtoaster] .de tld trouble

2010-05-12 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi everyone,

I don't know just how relevant this is for you, but since it *is* sort of a 
major thing...
The entire .de TLD has had serious problems where the root servers either did 
not respond to DNS queries or (worse) they gave back NXDOMAIN.
Now, this may result in people either not receiving or not being able to send 
mail from/to .de domains.
Though problems seem to have been solved by DeNIC, it will take some time till 
everything is back to normal (due to ISP caches / domain TTLs).

If anyone experienced anything weird - this may be why.

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[qmailtoaster] firewall.sh

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi,

I just noticed that firewall.sh, at least the version in the cent50 scripts 
which I use, contains the following section:

## Drop outside packets with local addresses - anti-spoofing measure
iptables -A INPUT -s $MYIP -i ! lo -j DROP
iptables -A INPUT -s 127.0.0.0/8 -i ! lo -j DROP
#iptables -A INPUT -s 10.0.0.0/8 -i ! lo -j DROP
#iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.0.0/16 -i ! lo -j DROP
iptables -A INPUT -s 224.0.0.0/4 -i ! lo -j DROP
iptables -A INPUT -s 0.0.0.0/8 -i ! lo -j DROP
iptables -A INPUT -s 255.255.255.255 -i ! lo -j DROP
iptables -A INPUT -s 169.254.0.0/16 -i ! lo -j DROP
iptables -A INPUT -s 221.240.102 -i ! lo -j DROP
iptables -A INPUT -s 203.215.94.193 -i ! lo -j DROP
iptables -A INPUT -s 218.71.137.68 -i ! lo -j DROP
#

Now, I just wondered why the private class A  C networks are listed, if only 
as optional, and the class B variant is not? E.g.

#iptables -A INPUT -s 172.16.0.0/8 -i ! lo -j DROP

Likewise, the multicast space is excluded (224.0.0.0/4) while the class E test 
space is not. E.g.

iptables -A INPUT -s 240.0.0.0/4 -i ! lo -j DROP

The other sections I all understand (e.g. loopback, APIPA, current network, 
etc.), but then there are some individual addresses that I do not recognize 
again:

iptables -A INPUT -s 221.240.102 -i ! lo -j DROP
iptables -A INPUT -s 203.215.94.193 -i ! lo -j DROP
iptables -A INPUT -s 218.71.137.68 -i ! lo -j DROP

Are these known troublemakers or some other special addresses? If so, 
personally, I'd prefer to not have individual IP address excludes in the 
firewall.sh script per default. I mean, those addresses *could* be reassigned 
and serve a different / legit purpose at some point in the future.

Anyway, I included a slightly modified script that includes description for the 
reserved / protected address spaces  and adds the missing two I mentioned above.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] permanently disable dk signing

2010-05-10 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
You do not have to live without domainkeys, though.

Jake has a video on how to implement dkim that also offers domainkeys support:

http://video.qmailtoaster.com/video/how-to-setup-dkim-on-qmail.html

Maybe that would be an alternative for you? The implementation works 
differently and I have not seen any errors such as you describe so far.

Martin

Am 10.05.2010 um 17:31 schrieb Rajesh M:

 hi
 
 i enabled dksigning using the instructions here for only signing outgoing
 emails
 
 http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Domainkeys#DKSIGN
 
 i am getting errors and wish to disable the same
 qmail-dk: Cannot sign message due to invalid message syntax. (#5.3.0)
 which happens randomly, and i am not happy with the same.
 
 i removed the complete dksign env variable from the tcp.smtp file still i
 am getting dksign related errors.
 
 i read in this post as such
 http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg12436.html
 
 ##
 To manually disable, just type the following:
 # cd /var/qmail/bin ; rm -f qmail-queue ; ln -s qmail-queue.orig qmail-queue
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: incoming mail trouble...

2010-05-10 Thread Martin Waschbuesch

Am 09.05.2010 um 19:05 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 Glad you found the problem, Martin.
 
 It'd be nice if the log would show something meaningful (or anything at all) 
 in cases such as this. Would someone like to look into such a change? I 
 should ask Tonino (the chkuser author) as well. He had mentioned making some 
 logging improvements.
 
 FWIW, I use opendns servers (208.67.222.220, 208.67.222.222) in my list of 
 forwarders, intermixed with the ones of my ISP.
 
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I for once would offer testing things.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: incoming mail trouble...

2010-05-10 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Am 10.05.2010 um 19:04 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 
 Thanks Martin. Anything that happens will be posted on the devel list. Are 
 you subscribed there?
 
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Sure am!

:-)

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: incoming mail trouble...

2010-05-09 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi all,

I found my problem: my ISP's DNS servers (which I had told dnscache to use) had 
issues resolving domains which caused my toaster to reject emails (no reverse 
lookup possible).
I reverted to default dnscache settings where a longish list of root servers 
for forwarding DNS queries is included and just added the ISP's DNS servers as 
additional entries.
It's faster to use my ISP's, but better be safe and have something to fall back 
on!

Thanks,

Martin

Am 08.05.2010 um 18:09 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 Which versions are you running?
 # rpm -qa | grep toaster | sort
 
 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Hi all,
 I recently noticed that some mails do not seem to get through to valid 
 recipients.
 E.g. What I see when I know that a mail should be coming in is something 
 like this:
 @40004be580ed32d98a3c tcpserver: status: 0/100
 @40004be5817c22eafcdc tcpserver: status: 1/100
 @40004be5817c22ee2d44 tcpserver: pid 12238 from 66.211.168.231
 @40004be5817c28e0e5ac tcpserver: ok 12238 
 krabat.waschbuesch.de:192.168.2.2:25 mx1.phx.paypal.com:66.211.168.231::10570
 @40004be5817d2344ffd4 CHKUSER accepted sender: from 
 paym...@paypal.com:: remote :mx1.phx.paypal.com:66.211.168.231 rcpt  : 
 sender accepted
 @40004be581830331a65c tcpserver: end 12238 status 0
 This is an example of where I should have received a payment notification 
 from PayPal. Some of their messages make it through, some don't.
 The interesting part is that I see a lot of messages above where I cannot 
 see either an error message OR a
 CHKUSER accepted rcpt: ...
 type line.
 Any idea how I could try and trace this?
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[qmailtoaster] incoming mail trouble...

2010-05-08 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi all,

I recently noticed that some mails do not seem to get through to valid 
recipients.
E.g. What I see when I know that a mail should be coming in is something like 
this:

@40004be580ed32d98a3c tcpserver: status: 0/100
@40004be5817c22eafcdc tcpserver: status: 1/100
@40004be5817c22ee2d44 tcpserver: pid 12238 from 66.211.168.231
@40004be5817c28e0e5ac tcpserver: ok 12238 
krabat.waschbuesch.de:192.168.2.2:25 mx1.phx.paypal.com:66.211.168.231::10570
@40004be5817d2344ffd4 CHKUSER accepted sender: from paym...@paypal.com:: 
remote :mx1.phx.paypal.com:66.211.168.231 rcpt  : sender accepted
@40004be581830331a65c tcpserver: end 12238 status 0

This is an example of where I should have received a payment notification from 
PayPal. Some of their messages make it through, some don't.
The interesting part is that I see a lot of messages above where I cannot see 
either an error message OR a
CHKUSER accepted rcpt: ...
type line.

Any idea how I could try and trace this?

Thanks,

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: incoming mail trouble...

2010-05-08 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi Eric,

 Which versions are you running?
 # rpm -qa | grep toaster | sort


This is the output:

autorespond-toaster-2.0.4-1.3.6
clamav-toaster-0.96.0-1.3.34
control-panel-toaster-0.5-1.3.7
courier-authlib-toaster-0.59.2-1.3.10
courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.10
daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.6
ezmlm-cgi-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.6
ezmlm-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.6
isoqlog-toaster-2.1-1.3.7
libdomainkeys-toaster-0.68-1.3.6
libsrs2-toaster-1.0.18-1.3.6
maildrop-toaster-2.0.3-1.3.8
maildrop-toaster-devel-2.0.3-1.3.8
qmailadmin-toaster-1.2.12-1.3.8
qmailmrtg-toaster-4.2-1.3.6
qmail-pop3d-toaster-1.03-1.3.20
qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20
qmailtoaster-plus-0.3.1-1.4.15
qmailtoaster-plus.repo-0.2-2
ripmime-toaster-1.4.0.6-1.3.6
simscan-toaster-1.4.0-1.3.8
spamassassin-toaster-3.2.5-1.3.17
ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.9
vpopmail-toaster-5.4.17-1.3.7
vqadmin-toaster-2.3.4-1.3.6

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Re: [qmailtoaster] QmailToaster Plus - new release!

2010-05-05 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Cool. Thanks for the good stuff! :-)

Am 04.05.2010 um 21:50 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 There is a new QmailToaster Plus package available. It contains all of the 
 modifications since the previous release (7 months ago), including changes 
 for the new mirrors.
 
 Thanks go to Jake and those hosing the mirrors for this new capability!
 
 Updating is strongly recommended. The new QTP can be updated with yum:
 # yum update qmailtoaster-plus
 
 If you haven't updated QTP in quite a while, you should be sure you have the 
 latest qtp-repo package first:
 # rpm -q qmailtoaster-plus.repo
 qmailtoaster-plus.repo-0.2-2
 
 If your repo version is not current, do this update first:
 # yum update qmailtoaster-plus.repo
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Please suggest

2010-05-03 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi Amit,

This sounds like email marketing? I used to work for an email service provider 
and here is what I would recommend:

Don't underestimate the whole deliverability aspect - this can be a lot of 
work. E.g. Depending on the types of messages being sent and the providers 
whose customers will receive these messages, you should take care of the 
following:

Ensure you use SPF, Domainkeys and DKIM

Make sure that hardbounces with reasons like user unknown (which SHOULD be 
5.5.0, but is not always) get unsubscribed from whatever mailing is in 
question. Some providers (e.g. ATT/bellsouth) will degrade your throughput if 
you reach a threshold of too many wrong (usually obsolete - peaople change 
providers more often than you'd expect) addresses.

Make sure that unsubscribes are honored.
In general, conform to can-spam, etc. if you don't, I have seen things happen 
like the network provider being forced to shutdown the IP in question, etc.

Given the volume, it might also make sense to look at the providers 
feedback-loop type programs. E.g. you absolutely HAVE to stop sending to people 
who used the 'this is spam' button in web based services such as AOL, etc.
If you don't, you can quickly experience a full block of your outgoing IP by 
that provider.

Check out the large providers' postmaster service pages to find out information 
on what they require you to do to ensure good deliverability. This might be 
anything from throttling to using SPF/Domainkeys, etc. Compare that with the 
majority of addresses in the address pool that is going to be sent those emails 
so you know where to focus on.

Last but not least: For mass mailings, some providers (e.g. AOL) will wait to 
determine the traffic patterns coming from an IP address that was not yet used 
for mass mailings: IF they determine that the pattern suggests normal usage 
(regular newsletters, transactional messages, etc.) the deliverability will 
pick up, but at first it WILL BE BAD. This is NORMAL. :-)

Thanks,

Martin

Am 03.05.2010 um 11:16 schrieb Amit Dalia:

 Hi Everyone,
 
 This may be out of topic, but please suggest me the best. I got a client 
 requirement mentioned below:
 
  Mass mailing system where we have around 5 mails to be sent at a time. 
 This will repeat for at least 15 times per month.
 
 What is the best option I can suggest him? I had suggested to go for 
 dedicated server on which I'll provide him a qmail server setup. Will qmail 
 will be able to handle so many mails a day? What are the possiblities of 
 getting mails mark as Junk?
 
 Thanks and regards,
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Header Information

2010-04-16 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Isn't that what SRS does to make sure SPF enabled mail actually can be  
forwarded without risk of being identified as phishing?


I think it is a feature not a bug. If you left the headers as is and  
forwarded a mail from a sender who uses SPF, the final recipient might  
compare your IP to the original sender's SPF record and this usually  
fails (unless you're both on the same domain)


Martin

Am 16.04.2010 um 08:49 schrieb nishant amin igonish...@gmail.com:


hi Aleksander
if i forward the email through both my email client and web
mail(thunderbird and squirrel mail)the headers get changed/replaced.
any way to prevent this from happening.as frank mentioned if the
headers are changed then it will be hard to know whre the mail
originated from.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Aleksander Podsiadły
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Dnia 2010-04-16, pią o godzinie 09:33 +0300, nishant amin pisze:

[...] the headers are completely
replaced by qmailtoaster [...]

By your email client (e.g. Firefox) not by qmailtoster.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Header Information

2010-04-16 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
That is not necessarily what he meant - if mail gets forwarded like  
that several times, you either have mail in mail in mail as cascaded  
attachments or you lose the trail of through whose hands the email went.


If that were desired, he'd need to disable SRS. Probably through  
recompiling qmail as I think it is a patch to that package...


Martin

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Dnia 2010-04-16, pią o godzinie 09:49 +0300, nishant amin pisze:

hi Aleksander
if i forward the email through both my email client and web
mail(thunderbird and squirrel mail)the headers get changed/replaced.
any way to prevent this from happening.as frank mentioned if the
headers are changed then it will be hard to know whre the mail
originated from.


All modern email client's can forward inline, quoted or as attachment.
If you forward message as attachment all original headers will be
preserved.
My Evolution is able to do it properly.

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[qmailtoaster] domainkey headers

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi all,

I just followed the instructions in Jake's excellent DKIM video to implement 
that.
Also, I switched to having this script do the domainkey signing as well.
Now, every test I tried says all is well, but there is one thing I do not 
understand:

The headers for the domainkey and DKIM signature contain weird information:

(Example from a mail I sent to my own yahoo account):

DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=waschbuesch.de; h=from 
:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id 
:to:mime-version; q=dns; s=default; b=lF2aWIX+e9oN8bYFk8OGupo/F+ 
CDbPVA/yGb8eagFBr8ypwTSPuZq07cssngeQ0+
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple; d=waschbuesch.de; h=from 
:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id 
:to:mime-version; s=default; bh=IFo6QBdna/qAn60/ytgz9ZK1/Y4=; b= 
ldXU+PxQlyiCCcOYHsIzj49GPRofZtird92MAIqZLThB60mJKrz8VEow0fA3WgIO

Now, where does this weird h-tag come from? Is there a way to influence that?

Thanks,

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Re: [qmailtoaster] fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi there,

Reverse lookup on your IP is not possible yet?
That would be a VERY bad idea for any mail server.
It is highly likely that in addition to slow performance, a lot of recipients 
would block your outgoing mails as phishing or spam.

Martin

Am 11.04.2010 um 11:20 schrieb Istvan Köpe:

 The reverse DNS is not set yet. Can this be a reason for the slow response?
 
 I.
 
 On 11.04.2010 11:33, Istvan Köpe wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 according to 
 wiki.
 The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait about 30sec 
 to send a blank message, no matter if you connect from LAN or from the 
 internet.
 I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 127.0.0.1 
 25
 I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with djbdns, no 
 change.
 The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 forwarded.
 I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.
 
 I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Just to get this clear, it is not sending or receiving that takes so long, but 
your actual connection attempt via telnet takes that long?
E.g. from hitting enter after 'telnet 127.0.0.1 25' to the prompt coming on?

Martin

Am 11.04.2010 um 11:41 schrieb Istvan Köpe:

 The reverse DNS will be set in the next few days.
 I also removed everything form blacklists. Even if I change in the simcontrol 
 clam=no,spam=no and I do telnet 127.0.0.1 25 it takes 30s
 
 What does telnet 127.0.0.1 25 has to do with DNS or reverse DNS?
 
 I.
 
 On 11.04.2010 12:29, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 Reverse lookup on your IP is not possible yet?
 That would be a VERY bad idea for any mail server.
 It is highly likely that in addition to slow performance, a lot of 
 recipients would block your outgoing mails as phishing or spam.
 
 Martin
 
 Am 11.04.2010 um 11:20 schrieb Istvan Köpe:
 
   
 The reverse DNS is not set yet. Can this be a reason for the slow response?
 
 I.
 
 On 11.04.2010 11:33, Istvan Köpe wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 according to 
 wiki.
 The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait about 
 30sec to send a blank message, no matter if you connect from LAN or from 
 the internet.
 I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 
 127.0.0.1 25
 I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with djbdns, no 
 change.
 The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 forwarded.
 I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.
 
 I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.
 
 Please give me a clue.
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
That sounds like something else then.
Connect from localhost, at the very least, should be fast.

Is there already a lot of traffic on the system? What's the load of the smtp 
process?
Is there a chance that there is a large number of concurrent smtp connections 
already?

Martin

Am 11.04.2010 um 11:58 schrieb Istvan Köpe:

 Sending mail takes long. Connecting from telnet(from anywhere) takes long. 
 Receiving mail(POP3) is fast.
 After hitting enter after telnet, I have the prompt instantly, but it takes 
 about 30 sec to get the welcome message.
 
 I.
 
 On 11.04.2010 12:44, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Just to get this clear, it is not sending or receiving that takes so long, 
 but your actual connection attempt via telnet takes that long?
 E.g. from hitting enter after 'telnet 127.0.0.1 25' to the prompt coming on?
 
 Martin
 
 Am 11.04.2010 um 11:41 schrieb Istvan Köpe:
 
   
 The reverse DNS will be set in the next few days.
 I also removed everything form blacklists. Even if I change in the 
 simcontrol clam=no,spam=no and I do telnet 127.0.0.1 25 it takes 30s
 
 What does telnet 127.0.0.1 25 has to do with DNS or reverse DNS?
 
 I.
 
 On 11.04.2010 12:29, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 
 Reverse lookup on your IP is not possible yet?
 That would be a VERY bad idea for any mail server.
 It is highly likely that in addition to slow performance, a lot of 
 recipients would block your outgoing mails as phishing or spam.
 
 Martin
 
 Am 11.04.2010 um 11:20 schrieb Istvan Köpe:
 
 
   
 The reverse DNS is not set yet. Can this be a reason for the slow 
 response?
 
 I.
 
 On 11.04.2010 11:33, Istvan Köpe wrote:
 
 
 Hello,
 
 Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 according 
 to wiki.
 The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait about 
 30sec to send a blank message, no matter if you connect from LAN or from 
 the internet.
 I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 
 127.0.0.1 25
 I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with djbdns, no 
 change.
 The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 forwarded.
 I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.
 
 I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.
 
 Please give me a clue.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Istvan
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] clamav-toaster and squirrelmail-toaster updated

2010-04-10 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi all,

I installed the update on my Centos 5.4 based toaster without any issue. Just 
wanted to give a heads up.

Martin

Am 10.04.2010 um 14:38 schrieb Jake Vickers:

 I have placed updated files for clamav-toaster-0.96.0-1.3.34 and 
 squirrelmail-toaster-1.4.20-1.3.17 online.
 I will leave the old versions online for a couple more days and will remove 
 them on Monday.
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