Re: [[[Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication SCR1000 VHF Manual]]]]
At 09:59 PM 11/25/2003 -0600, you wrote: Of course, any transmitter can have that statement said. ---Wasn't that VHF Engineering's motto? :-) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] ArGoSoft Mailing List Server
At 06:29 PM 12/14/2003 +, you wrote: Please send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], containing word HELP as the first non-blank line for the list of available commands. Wonderful... -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] ArGoSoft......
At 10:40 AM 12/14/2003 -0800, you wrote: Looks like something is misconfigured on his end. ---I'm not a SysAdmin. I only play one on Repeater-Builder Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek radio
At 10:54 PM 12/15/2003 -, you wrote: I am new to this board, can someone please help? I am looking for a good way to convert a mitrek uhf radio into a repeater. Can this be done without any controllers and extra equiptment? If so, can someone please supply some links? http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/mitrek-index.html Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL website ??
At 11:48 AM 12/16/2003 -0500, you wrote: Does anyone know if there is a web site for TPL amps ? Try http://www.spuriousunstablenevermakethepowerclaimed.com Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Interesting scam
At 01:07 PM 12/22/2003 -0500, you wrote: .. and someone tell me how to mod my scanner where it will pick up conversations from someones home stereo? ---Seems only fair. My neighbor's home stereo picks up my SSB transmissions! g Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off topic questions
At 08:21 PM 1/3/2004 -0800, you wrote: Might you need that modification diagram for one of your iders? Nah. I replaced the dynamotor with a T supply, the code wheel with an 8 track tape and the mechanical timers with an Agastat. Must keep up with technology ya know :-) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off topic questions
At 09:14 PM 1/3/2004 -0800, you wrote: The 5V had a vibrator power supply. You *do* know what a vibrator is ... ? ---Ooooh... you mean in the context of radio! Of course! g I have one of the SOS red plastic wheel ider's around here. Every time I see it, I think of your booth display at Rickreall. Might you need to borrow it for your booth, February 21st? ---Hah! Be there or be square Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off topic questions
At 10:28 PM 1/3/2004 -0800, you wrote: Ok, I will bring it just for you ... will you have power at your booth? You bet. I always have power at my booth.. Electricity too. Ken Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Battery terminal corrosion
At 08:56 PM 1/5/2004 -0800, you wrote: A 911 console that I maintain has developed some corrosion on the battery terminals. What is the best way to clean the terminals and what do I put on them to keep this from happening again? Go to your local auto supply store and pick up a battery terminal brush - that's what they're made for. Most allow cleaning either top post types or side terminals. When they're clean, coat 'em with good ol' petroleum jelly. It's that simple! Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
At 04:23 PM 1/6/2004 -0600, you wrote: You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components: power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller. It should then perform well if you used good replacement parts. -LOL! -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Identify this antenna manufacturer
At 12:44 PM 1/8/2004 -0500, you wrote: Looks like a DB-201 that is missing the radial kit... see attached PDF and tell me if you agree.. ---I disagree. Aside from the fact there is no plate through which the radiator extends (using that fast-becoming-infamous Hy-Gain style insulator) and the fact the J part of radiator extends below that plate, IMHO the antenna in question looks nothing like a ground plane... Of course your mileage may vary Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] No TX audio
At 12:03 PM 1/14/2004 -0500, you wrote: take 2 or 3 some 1n4001 to act as isolator so that one ptt does not backfeed into the other. A good idea overall but 1N4001's are a bit of an overkill (he certainly shouldn't need 1 amp capability for PTT)! 1N4148's should more than enough... Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 75 to 50 ohm match
At 04:06 PM 1/20/2004 -, you wrote: I have a repeater attached to 300 feet of 75 ohm CATV hard line. I believe one can match using a length of 62.5 ohm coax, but how long and where to get it? ---You don't use 62.5 ohm coax. You build a transformer (1/4 wavelength or odd multiple of a 1/4 wavelength) out of conventional coax. Electical 1/4 wavelength of course, not physical :-) On the other hand, some would argue the mismatch between 50 ohms and 75 ohms is hardly worth the effort and would simply return their duplexer to match the different common port impedance. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] wavetek ct systems 3000b
At 12:49 PM 1/21/2004 -0600, you wrote: I have two Wavetek CT3000B service monitors. One works OK, the other has a problem in the scope. I would like this fellow's name to see what it would cost to bring one or both up to snuff. ---If anyone gets his contact info, I'd like it too. One of my level switches slipped a notch, so it actually displays 1 more than it should for a digit Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] wilson repeater
At 03:17 AM 1/28/2004 -, you wrote: have a wilson WU451 repeater can someone tell me the exciter output or possible have a manual?recieve is good cant get much out of the exciter ---I don't have the manuals anymore but the exciter makes around 2 watts. There was a matching amp that would up that to 40... Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dual Band Antenna's?
At 12:23 AM 1/28/2004 -, you wrote: them.. some dont. I am running an X-500HNA at 160 feet for a low powered UHF repeater, and a packet station on VHF. When the ice came through NC the past few days, the thing wouldn't have lasted over 20 MPH if the wind blew. ---FWIW, I ran an X-500 at the 10,023 foot level, on Mt. Haleakala on the island of Maui for many years (it was for a digipeater) and it survived not only 80+ MPH winds, it survived them with over an inch of ice on it. Yea I know.. Hawaii never gets snow or ice :-) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tuffduck
At 01:54 AM 1/30/2004 -0500, you wrote: Hello all, Does any one have a URL, phone number or address for Tuff-duck? Does any one know what the connector is on the Motorola GTX HT is called? This is the RF connector for the duck. very best of 73, Russ, W3CH Trustee, W3PS ---Isn't that the tradename for Centurion antennas? http://www.centurion.com/antenna.asp Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RBI-1 Serial interface and FC-1
At 04:10 PM 2/4/2004 -0500, you wrote: There has got to be more than just the FC-1 protocol that drives the RBI-1 such as remote high/low power, dc power on/off, etc. I hope you don't mind me answering here, as everyone can benefit from information, yes? When driven by the ACC FC-1 format serial stream, you do not get the fully functionality of the RBI-1 (I believe this is mentioned in their manual.) You'd need to read that in detail to see exactly what does and doesn't work when an RBI-1 is used with the FC-1 stream. AH6LE uses the FC-1 for his serial converter to drive the Kenwood G707. Not exactlyg. My serial stream converter was designed to allow an ACC controller (or similar controller that provides the ACC FC-1 protocol) to control *some* of the functions in those Kenwood mobiles that allow control via DTMF injected into the mic port. While the G707 is one of those (as is the 732, V7A and some others), I didn't design the converter for any particular radio. With it, you can program frequency, PL freq, xmt offset and encode/decode select. And interjecting a shameless plug, our RC-210 will control these radios directly, without the need for an RBI-1 or any other converter. I'll let someone else provide the info on the capabilities of other controllers. That is what I am trying to do with my SCOM-7k. It uses the Doug Hall RBI-1 serial stream. Is this public? I need to make it fully frequency agile, PL agile, etc. ---All I can offer here is if you're not sure if the RBI-1 will control a G707, why not simply contact Doug Hall directly and ask? Then again as others have mentioned, maybe there's a way to use your 7K as it is. There are lots of knowledgeable folks on this list. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] RBI-1 Serial interface and FC-1
At 09:13 PM 2/4/2004 -0500, you wrote: I have been considering that for a while. I REALLY don't want to change controllers because I like my 7k and the way the synthesized speech sounds. If push comes to shove, I will do that. I also may use an RC-110 as an interface controller. ---I'm not suggesting that. If you're happy with 7K, stick with it! Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexers using C02 bottles ?
At 11:48 AM 3/15/2004 -, you wrote: Has anyone ever considered using 8.5 diameter 6ft high carbon dioxide bottles as those used in fire smothering banks as 6M cavity filters ? ---Aren't those made of steel? It seems to me they wouldn't be very temperature stable. Not to mention the usual electrical considerations (conductivity, size, etc). Ken (thinking Anyone have a forklift to help me move my 500 pound duplexer?_ -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Check our website for February Specials! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] ST-101 docs?
Would anyone happen to have the paperwork on an old (damn old!) Selectone ST-101 PL deck? Spence doesn't have anything that old from the aquisition:-) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] ST-101 docs?
At 01:54 PM 3/18/2004 -0800, you wrote: You did ask Spence? --Well not personally but I did talk to the folks at Com Spec about it. They said that was too old a unit... BTW, I last saw Spence around the same time, when I had my 2-way shop in Hawaii. What are you trying to do with the Selectone ST-101? ---I have one laying around that I thought I'd use in a link radio need I have. The encode part was easy enough to get going but the decode side is being less than cooperative :-). I figured the paperwork might help... Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ST-101 docs?
At 08:38 AM 3/19/2004 -0500, you wrote: Hi Folks.I have the complete manual on the ST-101 and am mailing it to Ken Arck to-day. --Thanks John, I appreciate the help! Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Motrac Radio
At 02:54 PM 3/22/2004 -0600, you wrote: The tube versions would end with HHT, for example. I think that the solid state version would be a MHT or perhaps an LHT so that the solid model would be something like U43MHT. ---Wow, it's been a number of years since I've dealt with this but as I remember, the HHT was the earliest version of a Motrac but not the only one in the series that had tubes in the xmtr. I believe ALL Motracs had at least one tube in the xmtr, but used less of them in each later version. It wasn't until the Motran that the xmtrs went all solid state (crummy PNP devices too!). Of course, I've been wrong before! Ken (has a photographic memory but lately I've been running low on film) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Motrac Radio]
At 08:24 PM 3/22/2004 -0600, you wrote: All models had 2 tubes in the PA deck, which were basically not visible. ---I remember the smelly heatsinks with the fingerstock and braid, yep! But didn't the MHT have a squarish heat sink instead of the curvy, contoured ones the earlier models had? Or am I thinking MST? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Motrac Radio]]
At 08:29 PM 3/22/2004 -0600, you wrote: The squarish one was the MST. Danke Ken (Memorieslike the echo of my mind... la la la la) -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Motrac Radio]
At 05:25 AM 3/23/2004 -0800, you wrote: This one has the three small transistorized finals on the right back side. ---Those transistors are part of the T supply (the high voltage switching supply that supplies B+ to the tubes). As far as numbers on the unit, don't find anything that meets the model numbers that's been mentioned. On top of the front panel, there should be a plate with the model and serial numbers. It should be right above the big, black connector on the edge. But let meask, when we talk tubes, are we referring to glass tubes, or the later solid state tubes they came out with. ---Solid state tubes? I think you're talking about the solid state diode replacements (that physically looked like tubes) for tubes like the 5U4, etc. The driver and final tubes in a Motrac were glass. You can see them by loosening the four captive screws in the corner of the heatsink and carefully sliding it off. It will all become obvious at that point :-) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Motrac Radio
At 12:55 AM 3/23/2004 -0800, you wrote: Not really a good plan. Most likely the radio won't duplex without severe desense. ---I had a full duplex LHT in my car, back in the 70's, complete with a Princess phone conversion control head (remember those?). It worked ok but of course running a mobile full duplex is a whole different game than one in repeater use! Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Motrac Radio]
At 08:18 AM 3/23/2004 -0800, you wrote: The numbers that are on the three transistorized tubes are, if that is what they are, is M9394. ---What the heck is a transistorized tube?? Are they round and silver? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Motrac Radio]
At 09:17 AM 3/23/2004 -0800, you wrote: Just before the transistor, solid state tubes. They are small and round. ---As I posted earlier, the only solid state tubes I can think of were actually solid state diodes that were made as replacements for the older vacuum tube rectifiers, such as the 5U4 series. I don't remember ever seeing these type of replacements for tubes such as triodes, pentodes and so on. Anyway, those M9394's are transistors (germanium as I recollect) that are part of the high voltage power supply and aren't RF devices. But I suppose this is all moot - it would make a terrible repeater in any case :-) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Motrac Radio]]
At 10:34 AM 3/23/2004 -0800, you wrote: Ken, if you and John really don't remember those radios, I have a few of them here, you are welcome to look and see for yourselves. ---No thanks Neal. I am reminded of my age enough, in other ways :-) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Motrac Radio]
It depends on whether they're NPN or PNP tubes.. At 02:06 PM 3/23/2004 -0800, you wrote: How much warm up time do they need? Ken Arck wrote: At 08:18 AM 3/23/2004 -0800, you wrote: The numbers that are on the three transistorized tubes are, if that is what they are, is M9394. ---What the heck is a transistorized tube?? Are they round and silver? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Motrac Radio]
At 04:53 PM 3/23/2004 -0800, you wrote: Ken I think you have been around as long as I (40+ years in electronics). ---Yes Tom. I have been around long enough to remember when Sue was a noun and the Left was a direction you headed :-) Thanks for update on Transtubes! Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motrac / Solid State Tubes
At 01:53 AM 3/24/2004 -, you wrote: These were used in VHF applications. [e.g. 6CW4] They are metal and don't look all that different from early transistors. The size is similar also, the Nuvistor is 0.400 dia. and a TO-5 is 0.335 diameter. ---Nuvistors were noticeable taller, not to mention the two metal tabs that extended below the base. Of course, they also got hot! But you make a good point. I dunno.. maybe it's time to put this thread to bed? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR
At 03:45 PM 3/28/2004 -0800, you wrote: Just something with good sensitivity and the cor. It's really a low key repeater. --I have a Spectra Tac receiver (that's a receiver from a Micor), mid-split with channel element and squelch gate card. It's in a rack mount and all you need do is supply it 9.6 and 13.8 volts. It doesn't have an audio/squelch board but with the squelch gate card, you don't need that anyway. Make offer :-) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR
At 06:10 AM 3/30/2004 -0800, you wrote: The receiver that is on the 440 machine is a Uniden radio, for which we pulled the de-emphasized audio from. Then we used a COR, which actually is nothing more than a voltage drop. ---Well Mathew. It doesn't sound like you need a new receiver. That would be like throwing the baby out with the bathwater, no? It sounds like all you need to do is to get a decent COS signal from the Uniden you're using. That shouldn't be a huge deal. What are the levels you're seeing from the current tap point? It shouldn't take more than a couple of resistors and a transistor to get a clean source. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR
At 09:07 AM 3/30/2004 -0800, you wrote: The voltage at the tap point is about 7 volts, when keyed it drops to about .5 volts, just not enough to get it to key the controller. I looked for other sources in the radio, nothing would drop to zero volts. ---I'm surprised your controller doesn't recognize .5 volts as a logic low. Actually the chances of finding a point in the receiver that drops to exactly zero is pretty slim, as a bipolar transistor which is full saturated, will still have a .6 volt drop across it. What you could try is a pull down resistor (from the COS wire connected to the controller to ground) and see if you can pull the low level down enough for the controller to recognize. You might start with a 10K and work your way down. Of course if the squelch in the radio stops working, you've probably gone too low a value :-) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR
At 08:15 PM 3/30/2004 -0500, you wrote: Put a diode in series, .7 volts drop,remember? ---If in series yes. But since that diode would be in series with (more than likely) a bipolar transistor C-E junction with its emitter to ground, that would add another .6 volts to the equation. Therefore he'd be looking at a total of 1.2 volts ABOVE ground and it would simply make the problem worse. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: cor logic circuit thoughts
At 12:24 PM 3/31/2004 -, you wrote: Any ideas where I might find a cheap version of this circuit or basic kit to build one? ---I did a syllabic squelch for an HF remote base project a few years. It is quite easy to build on some perfboard and it works quite well: http://www.ah6le.net/hf_squelch.html Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] icom ic-u-400 as a repeater???
At 11:01 PM 3/30/2004 EST, you wrote: does anyone know if its possible to make a icom commercial 400 mhz mobile. ic-u400 into a repeater?? thanks dave kb2znc I seriously doubt it. The scheme the U400 uses in its synthesizer makes it impractical. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] This is serious, yeah right!
http://www.tearingdownstrongholds.com/ ---Obviously a Kerry supporter :-) Ken Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/http://groups.yahoo.com/gro up/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Rep [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fan audio
At 02:22 PM 4/9/2004 -0400, you wrote: Either run AC fans or use a different power supply than the one running your repeater to power those DC ones ---I'm running two 12 Vdc fans in my Micor repeater. I use a 200 uh choke in each lead (+ -) and a 1000 mf cap across them, on the supply side. I then use a transistor to control 'em and I have absolutely no noise whatsoever using this scheme. I suspect part of the problem is that most people forget to treat both supply lines and noise gets introduced due to ground loops and stray currents. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Infomation Needed
At 04:07 PM 4/13/2004 -, you wrote: I have a Micor or Mitrek Repeater or what i think is a repeater.Here the Model number can anyone tell me what it is Model Number C73RTB/3103CM ---Let's see how good my memory is... It's a Micor VHF, 110 watt, PL'd (not DPL) base station. I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm too far off :-) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Infomation Needed
At 04:48 PM 4/13/2004 -, you wrote: Also is this a repeater or can it be converted to a repeater ? ---It is a base station but can easily be converted to a repeater. See http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/micor-index.html What is a Micor PL'D DPL ? ---Micor is the model series of the radio. PL refers to Motorola's trademark name for CTCSS (Continuous Tone Coded Squelch System). DPL refers to Motorola's trademark name for Digital Private Line. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-850 - Where to get CTCSS enable signal?
At 02:29 PM 4/14/2004 -0500, you wrote: You need to program one of the programmable outputs to TOR (this is a logic signal that goes active with received signal and proper tone). ---Is there a programming option that would give him a discrete PL decode logic output, independent of COS? That is what he needs. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Mitrek T83JJA3900DK
At 10:15 PM 4/16/2004 -, you wrote: Motorola Mitrek T83JJA3900DK, Can this radio be programed to work as a repeater ? ---Yep, quite easily.. see: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/mitrek-index.html Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help in layout
At 12:41 AM 4/17/2004 -, you wrote: I want it to latch and toggle the output to a 12V relay. So when I key the portable with that PL it will close and when I key it the second time it will open. ---Cheap and easy control, eh? :-) Without knowing exactly what you're up to, the fastest way to do it is probably with a D-type flip flop. If you don't know what this is, it is probably beyond the scope of this list Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Min Separation for VHF, no duplexer, 2 ants?
At 03:31 PM 4/17/2004 -0400, you wrote: 100 feet vertical or 300 feet horizontal separation. 100 feet of frequency of separation? Hmmm, my service monitor isn't calibrated in feet! (sorry, couldn't resist) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Is there a relationship between 147.225 and 146.925?
At 02:12 PM 4/18/2004 -0400, you wrote: Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Is there a relationship between 147.225 and 146.925? ---Are these standard split repeaters? Assuming so, the 147.225 repeater (output?) places the input at 147.825 How about clarifying the input freqs for these repeaters? Ken Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Is there a relationship between 147.225 and 146.925?
At 02:22 PM 4/18/2004 -0400, you wrote: The difference in frequency between the two transmitters is 300 kilohertz. 300 kilohertz is exactly 1/2 of the separation of either machine; 600 kc. Nice catch :-) -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Is there a relationship between 147.225 and 146.925?
At 02:38 PM 4/18/2004 -0400, you wrote: Hmmm. Your transmitters are 300 KHz apart. Your duplex split is 600 KHz. Sounds suspicious to me. Not to mention there are all sorts of odd order mixes with his freqs: Third Order Results: 147.2250 MHz + 147.2250 MHz - 146.9250 MHz 147.9250 MHz 400.00 KHz 147.2250 MHz - 146.9250 MHz - 146.9250 MHz 146.3250 MHz 300.00 KHz Fifth Order Results: 147.2250 MHz + 147.2250 MHz + 147.2250 MHz - 147.2250 MHz - 146.9250 MHz 147.9250 MHz 400.00 KHz 147.2250 MHz + 147.2250 MHz + 147.2250 MHz - 146.9250 MHz - 146.9250 MHz 147.9250 MHz 100.00 KHz 147.2250 MHz + 147.2250 MHz - 147.2250 MHz - 146.9250 MHz - 146.9250 MHz 146.3250 MHz 300.00 KHz 147.2250 MHz + 147.2250 MHz + 146.9250 MHz - 146.9250 MHz - 146.9250 MHz 147.9250 MHz 400.00 KHz 147.2250 MHz + 147.2250 MHz - 146.9250 MHz - 146.9250 MHz - 146.9250 MHz 146.3250 MHz 0.00 KHz 147.2250 MHz + 146.9250 MHz - 146.9250 MHz - 146.9250 MHz - 146.9250 MHz 146.3250 MHz 300.00 KHz -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Is there a relationship between 147.225 and 146.925?
At 11:46 AM 4/18/2004 -0700, you wrote: Not to mention there are all sorts of odd order mixes with his freqs: ---you guys considered adding circulators to your transmitters? That would solve the mixing issues.. Ken Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Is there a relationship between 147.225 and 146.925?
At 07:45 PM 4/18/2004 -0400, you wrote: To be honest, I didn't follow Ken's math. Must be that west coast version. ;- Here is how I add it up: Aside from the formatting changes due to email, that's what my intermod software came up with. (sure sure, shoot the messenger!) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duty Cycle
At 11:18 PM 4/19/2004 -, you wrote: Transmitter and amplifier manufacturers usually specifies a duty cycle (i.e. 50W 100% duty cycle) on their product. then how do you prove what they specified is correct? ---Doesn't it suck they don't give you the complete picture? Duty cycle is generally related to transistor junction temperature rise over a given period of time. I guess you could always look up the transistor spec's and see what they spec as a safe junction temperature. Of course you could always ask the manufacturer if they guarantee that duty cycle.. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Receiver Sensitivity
At 11:41 PM 4/19/2004 -, you wrote: Many of the newer commercial and older low dollar repeater receivers crap-out on busy mountain tops and repeater sites, especially when you park a gasfet mixer (preamp) in front. ---Now you know why I insist on using only Chip's stuff :-) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] VHF Engineering Repeater
At 11:49 PM 4/21/2004 -, you wrote: Having trouble with the receiver being to low ,so without the proper test equipment available to me ,I'm going to tune this the old fashion way . With an HT in the field by ear . My problem is I don't know which board is the main board for tuning the receive. I'm thinking its the FM 455. Question is there anyone in this group familiar with this receiver and tune up procedures ? VHF Engineering Repeater --Well, since you're stuck with the thing... the FM455 is the IF board. The RF144 is the front end/1st local oscillator and 1st mixer board. If by too low you mean it's off frequency, it should be obvious which board contains the channel xtal and its associated trimmer cap, no? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Suggestions as to IFR Monitor Repairs ?
At 12:22 PM 4/25/2004 -0700, you wrote: Hi Ken, I wonder if Fluke now does repair / certification of the service monitors? ---I talked to them about a month ago, regarding a replacement lever switch on my service monitor. While I didn't specifically ask about repairs and/or calibration, they do have parts. I guess it would be worth calling them about the other issues. As I remember, they were in Texas? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Alignment
At 07:40 PM 4/27/2004 -, you wrote: Is there any methods of tuning a set of duplexer without having a Spectrum analyzer. I am in the learning stages again. I have an IFR-500a, so I can generate a signal into them. I know this would work somewhat for the receive, but what does one do for the transmit. ---Why wouldn't it work for transmit? As a matter of fact, it would work just fine by both the receive AND transmit sides of the duplexer. RF is RF, regardless if its -100 Dbm or +10 Dbm, right? Depending on what kind of duplexer is it (BP/BR or just BR) determines the tuning procedure. You might want to check the website to see if yours is listed. One thing though - It's a good idea to use a 3 db pad on the receiver you're using for tuning, since you have no guarantee it will present a 50 ohm load to the duplexer. Oh, and don't forget to make sure a 50 ohm load is on the duplexer port not currently being tuned as well (a 3 db pad would work here as well). Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Alignment
At 02:54 PM 4/27/2004 -0500, you wrote: The duplexers are a set of TX/RX duplexers, six of them. When you say a 3db pad, that is something that I am not sure of, is this basically the same thing as a db pad used in CATV systems? ---Yes they are the same CONCEPT, but CATV ones would be 72 (75?) ohm. You, of course, need 50 ohm ones. The idea behind using them is to present an accurate 50 ohm load on the duplexer ports, because a change of load affects the tuning. If you don't have any, I'd suggest begging or borrowing some from a buddy :-) All I know is that the duplexers were set up as a Varinotch filter system. ---If I'm not mistaken, that's a notch type duplexer. Aside from visiting TX/RX's website (to see if you can locate tuning instructions), you might want to check out this link as well: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/notchduptuning.html Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference
At 10:36 PM 4/27/2004 -0400, you wrote: This is the reason I suggest just adding a helical to the front end of the regency, There is nothing magical about helical resonators - John Phillip Sousa Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off topic, but worth the bandwidth... Fwd: SERIOUS - Trojan Alert
At 04:48 PM 4/28/2004 -0700, you wrote: A persistent new spam campaign that purports to show recipients pictures of Osama bin Laden being captured is in fact a ruse that could lead victims to download a malicious Trojan Horse program. ---Yep Mike, this one is valid. My spam filter AND virus scanner caught it. Of course the giveaway - even without the anti-virus app - is that a graphic isn't a .pif file! Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Duplexer
At 12:38 AM 4/30/2004 -, you wrote: I have the opportunity to install a DB-224 and a DB-420 on a 500' tower. But the funds are lacking for two runs of hardline. With 60 watts on the 2 meter repeater and 40 watts on the 70cm repeater. What kind of Duplexers can I use on this system for one run of hardline? I'm talking dependable. ---One of my UHF repeater antennas is up a 167' tower, with hardline running up there. I also have a 2 meter antenna for my remote base up the tower too. The same hardline is used for both bands and it works just fine. Although it is kinda strange watching the wattmeter go from 70 watts with just the repeater talking, to over 100 when the remote transmits :-) Just get one that can handle the combined power, since both repeaters will transmit at the same time. I think I used a pair of Comets for my installation, rated at 250. I figured that was conservative enough and so far, no problems. Truth be told, I doubt there is much difference between the different brands anyway. A couple of low-Q bandpass filters ain't exactly rocket science :-) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] T1504 cavity
Hi kids I'm tuning up a T1504A, which has the 430 - 470 cable set on it. Everything looks good, except for one cavity - one of the lowpass/hi reject ones. I can't seem to get a very good null on it, regardless of the loop position. As a matter of fact, the reject seems to be getting better when it runs up against the outside edge of the adjustment slot. But I never find a definate point. The other 3 cavities are great - a nice, sharp, deep null, just about centered in the slot. Anyone have any ideas what I should be looking for? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] T1504 cavity
At 08:22 PM 5/1/2004 -0400, you wrote: Ken, Having refurbished and tuned a number of those cavities, I would suspect it may not be getting a good low resistance contact between the end of the coupling loop and the inside of the cavity. ---Thanks Paul but I have already looked at the interior. Very clean with little signs of oxidation. The area around the end of the coupling loop is clean and looks good. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] T1504 cavity
At 08:50 PM 5/1/2004 -0400, you wrote: I would guess you verified the 'rough' adjustment to be in the same position as the other three? ---It's nowhere near where the others are. Same coupling loops, oriented the same way as the other lowpass/hi reject too. The internals looks fine and clean. Pass loss is the same (but I haven't run bandpass measurements yet). Even by itself, this one cavity behaves this way.. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] T1504 cavity
At 07:09 PM 5/1/2004 -0700, you wrote: Do you already have the loop moved to the 2nd hole which allows for more adjustment. Just thought I would ask. ---Haven't tried that yet but the other lowpass cavity (the one that appears to be ok) has the coupling loop in the same hole. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] T1504 cavity
At 01:02 AM 5/2/2004 -0400, you wrote: Have you swapped the loops/probes from the problem can with the ones in another can to see if it's a problem with the can itself or with the loop/probe elements? Swapped any cables? ---Yea, I've had good luck with 1504s before too (this isn't my first set of Batwing cavities by any means). I had an extra cavity around and installed the coupling loops from the bad cavity into it, with the same results. Maybe it is the loops but I'll try the ones from a good cavity to see if that makes a difference. As for cables, yes. I've tried some others. But as I said, I also tried the bad cavity standalone with the same results, so I'm reasonably sure it's not cable related. No problem on the manual, I have several :-) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] T1504 cavity [solved!]
When I pulled the coupling loop assembly from the bad cavity, it looked fine to me. Although I noticed the connection to the S0239 had apparently been resoldered at some point in the past on the adjusted one). I didn't think about the resoldering job too much. Until this morning that is, when I pulled a coupling loop from the good cavity. There was significantly LESS solder on the good one. Hmmm, could this be an issue? On the bad one, there was so much solder that the solder fillet actually shorted almost 1/4 inch of the loop. Voila! I bet this changed the resonant frequency of this coupling loop. I removed all the excess solder, and used just enough for a good electrical and mechanical joint. It is now working just fine! The notch is pretty much centered in the adjustment slot and is deep and sharp. Thanks to everyone who offered their assistance, I really appreciate it. Perhaps my experience will benefit someone down the road! Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 2m repeater IMD issue
At 10:35 AM 5/5/2004 -0400, you wrote: Well, I considered that too. However, after further study of isolators (and discussing my situation with a manufacturer of isolators) I discovered that a VHF isolator will not stop signals in the 800MHz range from passing through it. An isolator should work great if I was dealing with several VHF transmitters at the same level on the tower. ---What bothers me here about using a circulator is that you say it only occurs when your TX is active. This doesn't sound like IM to me, as that would occur regardless of whether the tx was active or not (IM is produced when external RF comes down the TX line and mixes in the PA stages. This does NOT require that the PA actually be making power). It sounds more like a classic case of mixing. Have you run all the freqs involved to see where the possibles might be? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 2m repeater IMD issue
At 11:52 AM 5/5/2004 -0500, you wrote: Duplexers with one loop in UHF do not do much at 800 Mhz - ---He was talking about VHF circulators not being effective at preventing 800 Mhz energy from passing back down the TX line? I've never heard of this before. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2m repeater IMD issue
At 12:43 PM 5/5/2004 -0400, you wrote: However, the isolator will not keep 800MHz signals from getting to the transmitter of the 2m repeater. ??? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 2m repeater IMD issue
At 12:34 PM 5/5/2004 -0500, you wrote: Take a tracking generator and sweep a Wacom 678 duplexer and look beyond 440 / 450 on up to 600 and beyond. If memory is correct a single cavity will have less than 10 db attenuation at 800. ---I said CIRCULATOR, not DUPLEXER :-) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Equipment question
At 12:48 PM 5/7/2004 -0400, you wrote: Hey gang. OK, need some info from you old timers who are Dayton regulars. Any good reputable booths I should visit as far as commercial stuff goes? ---Of course, Kevin and Scott will be there. Spaces 707 - 710 Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Specials
At 06:01 PM 5/7/2004 -0400, you wrote: RE: Arcom Products at Dayton 2004 ---Hey Kevin. Your ISP hates me! Could you give me a call please? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC 210 / 220 radio for remote ideas?
At 11:59 AM 5/8/2004 -0700, you wrote: Ken - the designer of the 210 - is a regular on this group. I'd just wait a couple of days until he gets back from Dayton and ask him. ---Actually, I am here :-) Now to the question at hand It was queried: I need ideas to make a 220 freq agile (or at least work the channels on it) with the RC210 or Ideas on how to use the RC100 to control the IC3AT and use the RC210 as the main controller. ---As Stephen pointed out, you could connect the RC100 to an unused port on the RC210 and then program some 210's DTMF memories to send them out to the RC100, which would then actually control the 3AT. However, I have a simpler method. Simply turn off DTMF muting on the RC210 port you use to connect to the RC100. This way, any DTMF entered into another linked port of the 210 will simply be passed out the port to which the RC100 is connected. Make sense? While I realize you'd prefer not to have to use the RC100 as an intermediary, the 210 will not directly support the 3AT, sorry. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RC 210 / 220 radio for remote ideas?
At 08:08 PM 5/8/2004 -, you wrote: Can you not tell the RC210 to send out a line of dtmf's? Set this up in a macro? ---Yep, you sure can. The 210 has 20 DTMF memories, each of which can store 10 digits. Each memory can be called from a Command Macro. I'm not familiar with the sequence of events that need to take place when you send a command to the RC100 in order to do what you want but it doesn't accept some DTMF digit as a command terminator, to force command execution (as in the case of a 'stuck' COS)? Currently in an RC210 Command Macro, there is no way to actually drop the PTT line on a port. Ken That way you could have channels that the IC3AT would just dial up to. I also wonder in the same macro if you could get it to pause or drop the tx then re-key and send another string of dtmf's? I haven't played with it yet...but I change the dip switches on the ts32 (for the 3at) with the CS-1688. Not sure yet if it couldn't be incoorperated in to the one line of dtmf's yet or not. If that would workthat would be cool :-) Thanks and 73, Robert Yahoo! Groups Links -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Error
At 11:37 AM 5/10/2004 -0600, you wrote: For further details see the attachment. ---Personally I think anyone who's connected to the internet should be required BY LAW to have a valid virus scanner with all the current updates. If they don't, they should be shot Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Key
At 07:22 PM 5/11/2004 -, you wrote: Does anyone have a spare motorola micro/synto key lying around they could spare. I have four of these radios and cannot open them as no one sent me a key. Thanks. ---They're a standard Motorola 2135. Give Ted a try: http://www.mdmradio.com/ Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] CW ID Indicators
H... A H 6 L E / W R (gotta love it!) KEn At 04:48 PM 5/11/2004 -0400, you wrote: Well, how 'bout a short history lesson? Back around '76 or '77, the rules for repeaters changed drastically. Prior to that, repeaters required a separate repeater license, which required a vey lengthy application. The last few years of that repeaters were issued WR callsigns, before that they were either the trustees call or a club call. Then when it all changed, any ham with a tech or above could put up a repeater at any time with no special license, just the requirement that it ID with either /R or /RPT in morse, or the word 'repeater' in voice. Auxiliary links had to use /A or /AUX, or the word 'auxiliary'. This rule is a carry over from that, to allow the use of those suffixes if desired. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Matt wrote: Here is a good one. I know Kevin doesnt like FCC legal battles, but I felt this was worth a quick laugh, Anyway... According to 97.119(c) One or more indicators may be included with the call sign. Each indicator must be separated from the call sign by the slant mark (/) or by any suitable word that denotes the slant mark. If an indicator is self-assigned, it must be included before, after, or both before and after, the call sign. No self-assigned indicator may conflict with any other indicator specified by the FCC Rules or with any prefix assigned to another country. But here is the kicker, no where in the rules does it say what the official indicators are. except a blurb about /KT, /AG, and /AE if you are waiting for a new callsign and just passed the exam for the next class. I know we use /R for a repeater and /A for an auxiliary station but what are the rest? It's pretty sad when not even the FCC's employees can give you a solid interpretation of the rules. After spending 30 minutes on the phone with a FCC operator she could not give me a solid answer either. She gave me a reference to 54 FR 25857 but after searching for hours that is just the entry in the federal registar where the changes are made to the FCC rules. Yahoo! Groups Links -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] CW ID Indicators
At 05:02 PM 5/11/2004 -0400, you wrote: heh-well that wasn't quite what I meant, but;c} really it was special callsigns with a WR prefix. The club's repeater I belong to here started as WA8TTO, then WB8CRP, then WR8ADV before the rules changed. ---Oh I remember that (I owned WR6AKB in the 70's). I also remember the mountain of paperwork, etc, etc, etc. Ken (an old fart, but at least not older than Neal!) -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] CW ID Indicators
At 05:34 PM 5/11/2004 -0400, you wrote: That may be a throwback to the old FCC interim designators. For example, if you upgraded at the Buffalo (NY) FCC office, your call was W3ABC/BF. We used to say Interim BullFrog. ---Well the heck with all that. I'm just going to problem everything to AH6LE / GOD. Ken (Get's 'em every time) -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] CW ID Indicators
At 06:16 PM 5/11/2004 -0700, you wrote: ---Well the heck with all that. I'm just going to problem everything to AH6LE / GOD. ---I suppose I better check for typos before I program anythingsigh Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Response: Nick Berg
I am probably one of the more involved political wonks around and have great interest in what goes on politically and the War on Terror. And while I have nothing but the deepest sympathy for Nick Berg and his family, does this thread really belong on a mail list dealing with repeaters? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Be sure to see our products at this year's Dayton Hamvention! Repeater Builders spaces 707 through 710 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB preamp
At 03:39 PM 5/17/2004 -, you wrote: Hi I purchased a used GLB preamp for 70cm at Dayton. I am looking for the company that made it. Does anyone know where and how I can find them? ---GLB (Gil L. Brock?) hasn't existed for many years. Gil's stuff was pretty popular during the 70's (and part of the 80's) - his GLB Synthesizer was probably one of his more popular products but he did make some preamps and other goodies for a while too. I believe he got out of the biz quite a while ago. And if I'm not wrong, I believe I heard he passed away? What info about the preamp are you looking for? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Remote Base Project
At 09:15 PM 5/21/2004 -0500, you wrote: Would there be any advantage to putting the radio in an RF box for shielding? ---The short answer? Only if you put the antenna(s) in a shielded box too. You're asking too much of physics by trying to run a remote base on the same band as your repeater :-) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Remote Base Project
At 01:09 PM 5/22/2004 -0400, you wrote: Why? I've done it for about 15 years. I can't use it within about 60 kHz of the local repeater, but otherwise it's fine. I just used a cavity to notch out the repeater TX. The loss of sensitivity near the repeater TX frequency is overcome by the strength of the repeaters at the site. --I think you guys are missing the point. His problem is the remote base xmtr is taking out the repeater receiver, not the other way around. While you're correct about probably being able to tighten up things, if he's going to run any power on the remote TX and it is frequency agile, he has some issues. Note he did not say he is running an inband LINK - he said an RBI-1 with a Kenwood mobile REMOTE BASE. Hence the strong inferrence to wanting to be able to move the Kenwood radio around, frequency wise. Did I miss something? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Thoughts
In Hawaii, we did something similar. Our UHF repeater was at the 10,023 foot level (Mt. Haleakala, on Maui). We wanted coverage on the north shore of the Big Island (Hawaii) and good coverage on the major parts of Maui. As such, we had one 5 element yagi facing south and one facing north, but downtilted towards most of Maui (while Haleakala is quite high, the summit is only 8 miles or so line-of-sight to the major portions of Maui. Hence the downtilt). They were fed through a 2 port power divider. The setup worked quite well but bear in mind two factors: 1) Receive power is only half of what you'd have on a single antenna (power splitter reciprosity, right?) 2) Aperture gain is less using this method, versus 10' worth of vertical stick. Ken At 01:27 AM 5/25/2004 -, you wrote: I have a crazy thought, but I want to get some opinions. Here is what I am thinking, only becuase I can construct them very cheaply. As opposed to using a verticle, what would I expect if I used 4 10 element verticle beams, one point to NWSE, coupled with a power divider. My objective in this thought is to foward the gain to the areas that are of most interest. I am sure that I will see a few dead areas, but should be minimal. Has anyone had any expierience with this. This is for a 2 meter repeater, antennas will be up about 100 feet. Fed with 7'8 hardline. Thanks. Mathew Yahoo! Groups Links -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Thoughts
At 08:47 PM 5/24/2004 -0500, you wrote: But would not the gain of these antenna's compensate for that, from say a 3 DB to 6 DB gain verticle to a 13 DB foward gain, directed in each direction. ---It's not really that big a deal. I'm sure it will work fine as you describe. The only caveat I have is make sure that many elements doesn't restrict your beamwidth too much. It may be too directional, depending on distance Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] FBI Release: Suspect Photos- REQUEST Assistance
At 04:13 PM 5/26/2004 -0500, you wrote: Well you and Many Others including Me Have also questioned this , They want us to Listen But Wait a Minute Cell Phones , Cordless and many other Forms of Communications are a Federal offense to Monitor, Nothing Changed. ---Remember back in 1997 when a couple in Florida taped an intercepted cell phone conversation of Newt Gingrich and then turned that tape over to a Congressman? Obviously this was blatently illegal, yet nothing ever came of it. All things considered, I can live with what's being asked Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Desense
At 06:26 PM 6/1/2004 -0500, you wrote: Then tie that into My 440 repeater that I rebroadcast the NWS and Amber Alert Warnings . well the Testing I have done The Two Watts . De sensed the Weather receiver so bad It distorts the signal which is a strong one on a homemade outside ant at 20 Ft. 151.82 is also a homemade ant at 30 Ft. opposite side of QTH. ---Well you know what they say about the best desense is a good offense! As crummy as cheap WX receivers seem to be, it seems hard to believe that 2 watts, 20 feet away from a radio that is more than 10 megs away, is the culprit. Are you sure it's not a case of the 2 watt radio being in close enough proximity to the WX radio itself so as to simply be blocking it? Ya know.. plastic case and all? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] buillding a repeater
The other comments regarding the control line is a good one but allow me to pass on an experience I had in converting a mid-split UHF Micor station (C64RCB) to the ham band. Specifically, it needed to be moved *exactly* 10 Mhz down (it was on 451.875/456/875 and I was moving it to 441.875/446.875). Pure coincidence but there you go... The receiver was no sweat - it tuned to 446 painlessly. The transmitter was another story, perhaps because it was being moved so low. What I found was that the exciter was no biggie, as it tuned down easily enough (although I did parallel a 1 pf cap across 2 or 3 coils to center them in their range a bit better than they would without the new caps). Of course, the exciter makes power on VHF and is later tripled. But you can hear it just fine for quite a distance on its ultimate UHF channel. I followed the directions on the repeater builder webpage regarding tuning the SECOND bandpass assembly and the circulator but still couldn't get *any* power out of the PA. What I found I needed to also do was retune the FIRST bandpass filter assembly - the one between the exciter and the tripler stages. Once I did that, there was no problem at all in the xmtr making power. FWIW Ken At 09:34 AM 6/2/2004 -0400, you wrote: I have a problem. I have a micor base/repeater and over the weekend I tuned it up to my frequency and was testing out and I am not getting any power out the exciter is producing some power as I can hear the radio a hundred feet away with it going into a dummy load. the watt meter tested okay on another radio. the pa is getting power and I have tried adjusting the power control to no avail. I don't think the triple low level amp is working. but I am not sure how to fix it. Yahoo! Groups Links -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: building a repeater
David. If you don't mind I'm taking this back to the mail list, as there may be others who can benefit from the info, ok? The first bandpass filter is located behind the exciter board. If you carefully remove the board, you'll see a piece of white teflon coax leaving the board and plugging into a 3 stage filter assembly. The output of this filter then goes through another piece of teflon coax to the tripler stage. In other words, forget about the tripler at this point. Since the filter in question simply unplugs from everything, I just pulled it completely out of the chassis and tuned it on the bench, using a tracking generator and, of course, 3 db pads on the input/output. It is almost impossible to tune it with it mounting in the chassis anyway. Since (as I remember) you don't have a tracking generator, you can use a low power radio and a wattmeter if you want. Just tune for maximum throughput and don't worry about using pads. Once retuned, drop it back in and you should be set. Ken At 01:55 PM 6/2/2004 -0400, you wrote: followed the directions on the repeater builder webpage regarding tuning the SECOND bandpass assembly and the circulator but still couldn't get *any* power out of the PA. What I found I needed to also do was retune the FIRST bandpass filter assembly - the one between the exciter and the tripler stages. Once I did that, there was no problem at all in the xmtr making power. okay in layman's terms please I have the exciter tuned up I have the receiver tuned up but as you said no power. micor is going from 468 to 443.400 so where in the cabinet is the next stage to tune? is it behind the metal plate in the middle between the exciter and the power control as I have that section open but I see no adjustments in there. I believe what I am looking at is the low level tripler amp. but I see no way to tune it. -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 repeaters on 1 antenna
At 04:32 PM 6/2/2004 -0400, you wrote: I am wanting to stick a low powered UHF repeater on the same antenna. This would be an optional control rx'er for the main repeater but will run full time ISS audio (when FCC approved). This would be on the 3rd port of the RC210. The low power repeater would probably be in the 442.000 range at about 5 to 10 watts. Would run one of the small mobile duplexers. 1) How much desense will this cause? 2) What equipment will I need to make this happen (multi-couplers, etc.) and what to expect on cost? A receiver multicoupler and transmitter combiner system is usually quite expensive and lossy. Depending how far/close the involved freqs are too, this factors into the amount of loss as well. As for duplexers though, you don't need 'em with such a system. To get a better idea of what's involved in such a system, here a couple of links that may useful. http://www.rfsworld.com/index.php?p=23 http://www.anglelinear.com/couplers/couplers.html (BTW, AngleLinear makes some of the best stuff on the market, IMHO) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need
At 10:09 PM 6/3/2004 -0400, you wrote: will a vhf one work on a uhf repeater? No. That filter is in the output of the tripler. Therefore it needs to be UHF. As for the epoxied slugs, I used some acetone and CAREFULLY worked them back and forth with a high quality allen wrench. A little patience and careful work allowed me to free every single one. Good luck! Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need
At 10:30 PM 6/3/2004 -0400, you wrote: well you must of been lucky as mine are epoxied over so that I can't even get a allen key in there ---Acetone and an Exacto knife will eventually clear it out :-) Ken (patience is a virtue, especially if you're a doctor ---poetic license) -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need
At 10:41 PM 6/3/2004 -0400, you wrote: how about another way take the screws out the bottom punch out the epoxy run a tap through to clean up the threads then make some new screws out of 10X32 1 long machine screw by cutting the heads off and putting a cut in the top for a screw driver so that you can tune them up. ---I'm not sure there is enough room inside to get a beefy enough pair of needle nose in there to do that but maybe there is. I guess replacing the screws entirely would work, as they looked like plated steel to me but I might be wrong about that.. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 VHF questions
At 10:21 AM 6/5/2004 -0500, you wrote: I'm thinking I'm a little light on drive and thus the amp doesn't always excite. ---Announcing new Viagra for PA's. Always excite, all the time. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Oh Lord, not another Part 97 question!
Point to point link ID requirement: 1) When the link is first brought up and taken down 2) When the link is first brought up and taken down and every 10 minutes of operation 3) At the end of communications 4) All of the above The winner receives an atta boy! Ken Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Oh Lord, not another Part 97 question!
At 11:09 AM 6/7/2004 -0400, you wrote: Ken, I would think this is a no-brainer... as option 2 is inclusive of the others and 10min interval is a requirement. I keep getting dragged back into the ID debate but only as it applies to auxiliary stations. Your position is my position - it doesn't matter what it is, the every 10 minute rule applies regardless. Not everyone is willing to take my word for it however. To which I say.. fine, do it as you feel comfortable doing it. I am not my brother's station keeper :-) Ken Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
