date:20081009




That's just the thing.


When you hand responsibility and especially consequence with lawsuits over 
to any other, you get placed into their cookie cutter by your own hand.
If YOU are willing to make decisions and take the heat, there's not a whole 
lot anyone can do about it.
The only reason to place barriers in your way comes from the belief that 
they will be bailing you out if you are wrong.


 When it come down to kids...if they were really yours, you could shoot 
them.

So
If you succeed, they will never know.
 *Spontaneous remission* stops any treatment.
If you don't succeed..they will kick you for not being a cookie cutter Mom, 
thus placing them in a traditional *position* of responsibility.


Only the State can shoot your kids, so who do the kids really belong to?

Suicide is only illegal if you don't manage to do it right.

Ode


Was it here I read about the family that had to move to another state to 
avoid the overzealous doc that wanted to use their poor kid as a lab rat 
for cancer drugs? Who turned them over to the state when they did not want 
to let him kill their child that way?  I guess he probably died anyway, 
poor thing, but hopefully not tortured to death with their 
experiments.  It sounded disturbingly like Nazi Germany


Oh well, no lack of big problems around right now. I am thinking of 
stuffing my money in my mattress, or bury it around my house like my old 
auntie used to do...


kathryn


On Oct 8, 2008, at 6:32 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:




  In that case, you may have to become a Morman?
A doc you don't go to can't turn you in.
 Home schooling is legal, last I heard...and school, a disease ridden 
cess pit.


The Aspirin bottle has advise:  'Keep away from children
 That may go for kids as well as you.

..the more that gather in one place, the less there will be to gather in 
one place.
 A half mile of solar radiation and atmospheric oxygen does wonders to 
prevent transmission.


Ode

At 01:22 PM 10/7/2008 -0500, you wrote:
I agree that is one good point.  We are not sheep. We do have the 
capacity to discern.


But in some states, if you refuse treatments for your children, some doc 
turn you in to child protection, and they try to force the treatment on 
the family. So maybe the hurdles are relatives, and drs treating 
children for cancer...


On Oct 7, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:



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Re: CSMRSA and other Bad things

2008-10-09 Thread Kirsteen Wright

On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:26:23 -5, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:

 As I recall reading somewhere, the iron in those people's bodies was
 sequestered in the cells as a defensive measure by the body, in order
 to lower the serum iron levels as much as possible, even to the point
 of creating anemia.


I find this fascinating as I've always been really anaemic to the extent
that they gave me a couple of pints of blood when I was pregnant (I also
have pernicious anaemia but that's a different thing). I guess it would make
sense then when taking iron supplements to hike up the amount of CS taken to
try to stop any infection taking over. Does this sound reasonable?

cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSaerobic oxygen [straying briefly]




  It means he believed in us as well as himself for the same reason he 
believed in himself.

WE don't believe in ourselves...and therefore know not what we do.
Read what he said [and forget all the other stuff ]
Simple Algebra and each parable a word problem.
If A+B=C   and A+C= B, then A=B=C and all is one.
 Believe what you want, you cannot be a prodigal son, there is nowhere 
BUT your fathers house to-go-to and decorating it to look otherwise doesn't 
change that.

It only allows you to believe what can't be true.

It's the droplets that determine their size and positional limits within 
the ocean.


The ocean knows better.  It's ALL ocean...sea?

I AM all that is, was and ever shall be without beginning or end
 That means that you ARE me...there is nothing else TO be.
 So
[ Weird little advert ]
Be all that you CAN bein the are me... of one?  [LOL]
If you are here, you are a volunteer. [Trying to get out of KP Duty and 
usually AWOL ]


Nickname Nik always called me Sarge..and so,  my middle name is then 
Arg !!
 We call Niks neighbor God because he professes to know everything, but 
he says he doesn't believe in God.


Ode


At 07:54 AM 10/8/2008 -0700, you wrote:

 Does that mean he didn't believe in himself ?



Ode Coyote wrote:


Point valid.
   Except, Jesus wasn't a Christian.

He may have even been anti any religion...almost certainly not *for* any 
organized church.


ode


At 12:41 PM 10/7/2008 -0500, you wrote:

Calling oxygen aerobic is like calling Jesus a Christian...

Dan


 -Original Message-
 From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 3:43 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSaerobic oxygen

 Hi Wayne, thank you for your reply and I am sure you are
 right about balance etc.,  I think a lot of excessive free
 radicals are probably caused by things like pollution and
 external man made factors which a lot of us bombard ourselves
 with on a daily basis, and these probably tip the balance the
 wrong way, so causing things like cancer etc.,  By the way, I
 didn't say anaerobic, I said aerobic.  I know that cancer
 becomes is anaerobic and cannot survive when oxygen is
 present.  Thanks again.  dee

 Wayne Fugitt wrote:
  Evening Dee,
 
   At 06:48 AM 9/27/2008, you wrote:
  I asked the people that supply aerobic oxygen if they have
 any idea
  whether or not this could cause problems with free radical
 production.
 
That is a technical and complex subject, but an important
 one, no less.
 
  I have always understood that free radicals were caused by the
  burning of oxygen either for breathing or the production
 of energy,
  plus quite a lot of other factors.
 
 
The part,   A lot of other factors is the  part to be
 concerned with.
 
  Interesting the way you made the statement, Anaerobic Oxygen.


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CSBlue hair??

2008-10-09 Thread Neville

Morning List,

If silver is suspected of showing up under the nails turning the moons blue, or 
whatever other colour, then what would we expect to see in our hair?  Would one 
expect to see the hair on our heads, and/or arms and legs turning colour, or 
the roots of the hair showing colour perhaps?  Surely it must manifest itself 
in hair colour also in some manner.  I don't believe I have read anything 
regarding that proposition anywhere.  Just curious!!  If it doesn't show in the 
actual hair, then it must surely show at the skin area around the roots or 
follicles.  These areas would be just as susceptable or 'delicate' as the moons 
I would think.  I also haven't read anywhere yet about any interaction between 
CS and melanin either, and melanin is associated with hair.  If there is any 
info out there it may be worth sharing.  I'm curious!!

N.

RE: CSCS Efficiency Measurements






So, it is the ionic silver that is effective and the colloidal silver
converts to ionic upon contact with single cell pathogens. But as I
understand it, the issue with ionic silver is that the HCl in the
stomach converts the ionic silver to silver chloride which is insoluble
and the silver chloride molecule is to large to pass through the
intestinal wall into the bloodstream.



 Silver Chloride isn't entirely insoluble and it's solubility is 
[probably]  gauged in water, nor does the stomach contain nothing but HCl 
and the stomach lining is a dynamic thing with some chemical intelligence 
behind it.
 A protein is a huge molecule and they somehow get in, in some form or 
another.
In a batch of EIS, each ion has an anion with it, produced along with the 
ion and it should make nothing but silver hydroxide, but somehow they 
mostly don't find each other even after years of sitting around.

 Apparently there's something about water that protects silver ions.

I think maybe what we don't know is FAR more than we do know and 
simplifying a hugely complex chain of events isn't going to enlighten.
 Perhaps we should be thinking about hitch hikers and something akin to 
ion exchange resins.


 It's dark in here..and I hear laughing...and it ain't me
It's either the Boogyman or the Tooth Fairy, right?
Is dat YOU Mr Boogyman?
 Yes, said the Tooth Fairy, gnashing her fangs and laughing.

Ode



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Re: CSCS Efficiency Measurements




  I seem to recall that the owner of utopia got the boot too.

ode




At 08:53 PM 10/8/2008 +0005, you wrote:

Steven quotes the following report:
  One of Frank's accomplices, Mike Devour, a self-proclaimed
  libertarian and owner of the Silver List, promptly banned Stuart from
  further participation on the forum for life.

Indi writes:
 That's rather discouraging, if true.

LOL! It was going on 7 years ago, right? I barely remember the
episode, but the report as written has all the hallmarks of one who
lost their argument because of their own inability to behave in a
civilized fashion.

I only rarely ban anyone, and I've never been an accomplice to Frank or
anybody else I can think of. But, if you persist in making personal
attacks against another member, particularly as an advocate for a
commercial interest, you will be warned, repeatedly, and banned if you
do not restrain yourself!

Stuart was one of those rare cases.

Be well,

Mike D.





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Re: CSColloidal gold

This is the html version of the file 
http://www.espimetals.com/msds%27s/goldacetate.pdfhttp://www.espimetals.com/msds's/goldacetate.pdf.

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MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET
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PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION
Trade Name:
Gold III Acetate
Synonyms:
None Known
Chemical Nature:
Gold Compound
Chemical Family:
Organometallic
Formula:
Au(O2CCH3)3
PHYSICAL DATA

Solubility in Water:
Slight
Appearance and Odor:
Brown powder, vinegar like odor

At 06:24 PM 10/8/2008 -0500, you wrote:


Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses
vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with
starters for CG like there is with CS?
 - Steve N

http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html


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Re: CSColloidal gold




  I have been unable to make ionic copper with just water..ionic gold may 
also be like that.


ode



At 06:41 PM 10/8/2008 -0500, you wrote:


Also, are there ionic gold issues?
Thanks,
Steve N

- Original Message -
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed Oct 08 18:24:09 2008
Subject: CSColloidal gold


Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses
vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with
starters for CG like there is with CS?
 - Steve N

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Re: CSMRSA and other Bad things

Dear Kirsteen,

I wrote:
 As I recall reading somewhere, the iron in those people's bodies 
 was sequestered in the cells as a defensive measure by the body, 
 in order to lower the serum iron levels as much as possible, 
 even to the point of creating anemia.   

You ask:
 ... I guess it would make sense then when taking iron supplements to
 hike up the amount of CS taken to try to stop any infection taking
 over. Does this sound reasonable?  

You might not see the same effect if whatever ails you doesn't work the 
same way it did for them. I don't know how universal the iron 
sequestering response is. It may only happen for a very specific 
pathogen. You'd have to do some more research.

Be well,

Mike D.

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Re: CSCS Efficiency Measurements


I seem to recall that the owner of utopia got the boot too.
 
 ode

I think he left of his own volition. I didn't boot him.

Mike D.


 ... if you persist in making personal
 attacks against another member, particularly as an advocate for a
 commercial interest, you will be warned, repeatedly, and banned if you
 do not restrain yourself!
 
 Stuart was one of those rare cases.

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Re: CSURGENT--need info about silver-compatible humidifier

Nenah, I don't know what system you're trying to use, but what you're 
looking for is a unit that has a round, piezoelectric element in direct 
contact with the water. There should be no filter or wick between the 
water supply and the element, and it should create a clearly visible 
cloud of vapor, which is blown through the outlet by a small fan.

These look like they have potential:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9875653

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=6958805

I'd avoid anything that talks about having a wick, or has a filter 
that's not obviously removable. The water should flow into a little 
well surrounding the piezo element and the mist should erupt from the 
surface of the water directly above the element, and be blown gently 
toward the outlet by a fan that draws room air in through the base.

Oh, and if you read the user comments for these things you'll know it's 
best to use distilled water (or CS, of course!) and protect the surface 
that it's on against moisture damage. grin

Be well,

Mike D.

 I need to disperse some CS into the air right away for a coughing dog.
 
 We bought a humidifier from Wal-Mart (not Walgreen's) and removed the
 flat-sheet filter that covers the pan, but nothing's happening. Without
 the filter, the liquid level doesn't decrease, so I'm thinking that the
 filter is necessary to whisk the liquid up so the fan can disperse the
 drops into the air.

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Re: CSMRSA and other Bad things

I think I had read something like that too.  If I remember right it was 
intestinal worms that were the parasite.


Marhsll

M. G. Devour wrote:
As I recall reading somewhere, the iron in those people's bodies was 
sequestered in the cells as a defensive measure by the body, in order 
to lower the serum iron levels as much as possible, even to the point 
of creating anemia. I don't remember if it was parasites or some other 
microbial infection, but low iron levels kept the infection under 
control. 

Treat the infection(s) effectively and iron levels came back up on 
their own soon after as the iron was released from storage. Supplement 
iron in a misguided effort to treat their deficiency, and the 
infections flared up and often killed them.


At least that's what I remember.

Be well,

Mike D.

  

better for them to cook in cast iron pots, then

On Oct 7, 2008, at 12:36 PM, sol wrote:



... I read that anemic children
in 3rd world countries have been given iron injections to cure their
anemia, but then many die later from sudden overwhelming infections
that were low level (hidden so to speak) prior to iron administration.
  


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Re: CSRe: Blue Nails.


Steven Foss wrote:

Dear Marshall,

You wrote:



Not all cases of Argyria are Slate Blue.  Some are Slate Grey.


OK, what is the difference between slate blue and slate grey?  I thought 
slate comes in one color, which is a slightly bluish grey.  If everyone 
didn't call it blue, I would have to call mine grey actually.


I just looked them up. Mine are exactly the color of slate grey at 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slate_gray. Looking at 
http://www.computerhope.com/htmcolor.htm their medium slate blue and 
slate grey 4 look almost identical to me. Frankly I don't see how one 
could differentiate between these two greys.


Marshall


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Re: CSURGENT--need info about silver-compatible humidifier


Nenah Sylver wrote:


I need to disperse some CS into the air right away for a coughing dog. 
Is Walgreen’s personal ultrasonic humidifier still the one of choice? 
In reading through my files on it, it’s still unclear as to whether 
the filter should be left on or off.


We bought a humidifier from Wal-Mart (not Walgreen’s) and removed the 
flat-sheet filter that covers the pan, but nothing’s happening. 
Without the filter, the liquid level doesn’t decrease, so I’m thinking 
that the “filter” is necessary to whisk the liquid up so the fan can 
disperse the drops into the air.


We have to get this straightened out by tomorrow afternoon, so I 
appreciate your quick input.


Thanks.

Nenah

It sounds like you are trying to use an evaporative humidifier. If that 
is the case there are no droplets, just the water as it evaporates from 
the wick. That is useless for trying to get silver into the air, it is 
just like distillation, but without the heat. You need to use an 
ultrasonic humidifier. They used to make one that had a motor on it that 
spun a disk that drew water from the container and dispersed it into the 
air, which should work as well, but probably not as well. Sorry, that 
sounds confusing. Work also, but would probably produce larger droplets 
which would be less effective. The filter, if there is one, should be 
bypassed, as it will remove the particulate portion, and if charcoal the 
ionic as well most likely.


Marshall


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CSURGENT--CORREC. need info about silver-compatible humidifier

2008-10-09 Thread Nenah Sylver

 

I need to disperse some CS into the air right away for a coughing dog. Is
Walgreen's personal ultrasonic humidifier still the one of choice? In
reading through my files on it, it's still unclear as to whether the filter
should be left on or off.

 

We bought a humidifier from Wal-Mart (not Walgreen's) and removed the
flat-sheet filter that covers the pan, but nothing's happening. Without the
filter, the liquid level doesn't decrease, so I'm thinking that the filter
is necessary to whisk the liquid up so the fan can disperse the drops into
the air.

 

We have to get this straightened out by THIS afternoon, so I appreciate your
quick input.

 

Thanks.

Nenah

CSURGENT--need info about silver-compatible humidifier

2008-10-09 Thread Nenah Sylver

I need to disperse some CS into the air right away for a coughing dog. Is
Walgreen's personal ultrasonic humidifier still the one of choice? In
reading through my files on it, it's still unclear as to whether the filter
should be left on or off.

 

We bought a humidifier from Wal-Mart (not Walgreen's) and removed the
flat-sheet filter that covers the pan, but nothing's happening. Without the
filter, the liquid level doesn't decrease, so I'm thinking that the filter
is necessary to whisk the liquid up so the fan can disperse the drops into
the air.

 

We have to get this straightened out by tomorrow afternoon, so I appreciate
your quick input.

 

Thanks.

Nenah

Re: CSBlue hair??


Neville wrote:

Morning List,
 
If silver is suspected of showing up under the nails turning the moons 
blue, or whatever other colour, then what would we expect to see in 
our hair?  Would one expect to see the hair on our heads, and/or arms 
and legs turning colour, or the roots of the hair showing colour 
perhaps?  Surely it must manifest itself in hair colour also in some 
manner.  I don't believe I have read anything regarding that 
proposition anywhere.  Just curious!! 
I have heard that the use of colloidal silver directly on the hair can 
cause it to darken. But that is really not the same thing.
If it doesn't show in the actual hair, then it must surely show at the 
skin area around the roots or follicles.  These areas would be just 
as susceptable or 'delicate' as the moons I would think.  I also 
haven't read anywhere yet about any interaction between CS and melanin 
either, and melanin is associated with hair.  If there is any info out 
there it may be worth sharing.  I'm curious!!
Good questions. I am not aware of any instances of hair, or the roots of 
hair becoming stained with silver use.  Part of the reason may be that 
often the hair is brown or black anyway, so such would not be easy to 
see.  But another reason may simply be that hairs are disbursed widely 
over a large area, such that any silver capture for putting in the hairs 
simply does not reach a high enough concentration for significant 
aggregation.  As far as getting into the hair, there is no doubt that 
silver makes it into the hair, hair is used as a standard test for 
silver and other metals because the body accumulated and transfers it to 
the hair.  But I don't think it likely that silver particles could grow 
enough to be gray in the hair because if they are that large, they are 
immobile and thus would be stuck at the follicle, and never make it into 
the hair. Also there may be silver accumulation of larger particles down 
in the follicles, but it is so deep, it cannot be seen.


Marshall


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Re: CSSilver Ions- study

2008-10-09 Thread Clayton Family


Great find, Steve, thanks for posting it.  -kathryn

On Oct 8, 2008, at 10:55 PM, Steven Foss wrote:


Dear Silver List,

As to regards to my earlier post  about Silver Ions vs Metallic 
Particles


1: Med Eng Phys. 2007 Dec 7. [Epub ahead of print] Links
Colloidal silver fabrication using the spark discharge system and its
antimicrobial effect on Staphylococcus aureus.

Tien DC, Tseng KH, Liao CY, Tsung TT.
Graduate Institute of Mechanical and Electrical Engineering, National

Taipei University of Technology, No. 1, Sec. 3, Chung-Hsiao E. Rd.,

Da-An District, Taipei 106, Taiwan.
Nanoscale techniques for silver production may assist the resurgence
of the medical use of silver, especially given that pathogens are
showing increa



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RE: CSColloidal gold

2008-10-09 Thread Norton, Steve

Thanks Ode,
Not much to find on the net relative to gold acetate but it probably
isn't something you want whether it is toxic or not since it may make
some portion of the gold inactive.  Do you think using CS would work ok
as a starter? Would it just plate out on one electrode? 
Thanks,
Steve N

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From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 4:20 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSColloidal gold

This is the html version of the file
http://www.espimetals.com/msds%27s/goldacetate.pdfhttp://www.espimetal
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the web.
Page 1
MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET
I
PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION
Trade Name:
Gold III Acetate
Synonyms:
None Known
Chemical Nature:
Gold Compound
Chemical Family:
Organometallic
Formula:
Au(O2CCH3)3
PHYSICAL DATA

Solubility in Water:
Slight
Appearance and Odor:
Brown powder, vinegar like odor

At 06:24 PM 10/8/2008 -0500, you wrote:

Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses 
vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with 
starters for CG like there is with CS?
  - Steve N

http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html


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Re: CSURGENT--need info about silver-compatible humidifier

2008-10-09 Thread Acmeair



 i use a Holmes brand ultrasonic humidifier. don't use the filter. 
when in operation, you can see and feel the moist vapor coming from the 
machine's vent. because it is ultrasonic, the cs is carried up with 
the water vapor. a regular humidifier leaves the cs behind.  i also use 
dmso (at 10%) for lung applications   i think i got the machine at longs 
drug (so. california) for around $30


On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at  7:38 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:


Nenah Sylver wrote:

I need to disperse some CS into the air right away for a coughing dog. 
Is Walgreen’s personal ultrasonic humidifier still the one of choice? 
In reading through my files on it, it’s still unclear as to whether 
the filter should be left on or off.


We bought a humidifier from Wal-Mart (not Walgreen’s) and removed the 
flat-sheet filter that covers the pan, but nothing’s happening. 
Without the filter, the liquid level doesn’t decrease, so I’m thinking 
that the “filter” is necessary to whisk the liquid up so the fan can 
disperse the drops into the air.


We have to get this straightened out by tomorrow afternoon, so I 
appreciate your quick input.


Thanks.

Nenah

It sounds like you are trying to use an evaporative humidifier. If that 
is the case there are no droplets, just the water as it evaporates from 
the wick. That is useless for trying to get silver into the air, it is 
just like distillation, but without the heat. You need to use an 
ultrasonic humidifier. They used to make one that had a motor on it that 
spun a disk that drew water from the container and dispersed it into the 
air, which should work as well, but probably not as well. Sorry, that 
sounds confusing. Work also, but would probably produce larger droplets 
which would be less effective. The filter, if there is one, should be 
bypassed, as it will remove the particulate portion, and if charcoal the 
ionic as well most likely.


Marshall

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[RE]CSURGENT--need info about silver-compatible humidifier

2008-10-09 Thread Brooks Bradley

Dear Nenah,
I believe you can purchase an ultrasonic mister at Walmart (name ReliOn), that
has worked quite well for us (cost about $40.00). It holds a gallon or more of liquid.
The filter is located on the side of the blue module which rests on the bottom of the interior.
Just pick the module up and look on the left side and you will see the filter medium. It is
of the simple mat-type and does not offer much effect on the particulate silver suspensions and none on the ionic portions (that we can determine). If you want to remove the filter, that is a personal choice..however, we have found that such does not really gain you a great advantage. We have employed several of these deviceswith good success. One suggestion: Move the Mist selector to MAXIMUM, as this gets the best results. This is a true ultrasonic mister and it accomplishes its dispersal via high-speed, mechanical agitation.
Good Luck with you canine patient.Best Regards, Brooks.
p.s. It takes about 3 minutes for the unit to build up to max output.

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Subject : CSURGENT--need info about silver-compatible humidifier
Date : Thu, 9 Oct 2008 07:45:12 -0700
From : Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net
To : silver-l...@eskimo. Com silver-list@eskimo.com

I need to disperse some CS into the air right away for a coughing dog. Is
Walgreen's personal ultrasonic humidifier still the one of choice? In
reading through my files on it, it's still unclear as to whether the filter
should be left on or off.

We bought a humidifier from Wal-Mart (not Walgreen's) and removed the
flat-sheet filter that covers the pan, but nothing's happening. Without the
filter, the liquid level doesn't decrease, so I'm thinking that the "filter"
is necessary to whisk the liquid up so the fan can disperse the drops into
the air.

We have to get this straightened out by tomorrow afternoon, so I appreciate
your quick input.

Thanks.

Nenah

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Re: CSIonic Silver transport throught the digestive tract an into the cells.

2008-10-09 Thread Dee

Brilliant post Steven, another I will keep. dee

Steven Foss wrote:

Hi Silver List.

Taking Colloidal Silver by mouth (and with food) raises the point of metalloproteins.

Your saliva has over 200 different proteins and fully one third of body proteins are metalloproteins I.E. carrying metallic ions. Thus, reactive ions (missing one or more electrons) can be transported past the stomach and thru the circulatory system without local reactions, ie Silver Ions reacting with chloride ions to from Silver chloride.

Metal ion substitution permits even a zinc metalloprotein to take up the silver ion and release the zinc ion. The free, ionized zinc, which would be toxic if permitted to accumulate, binds to a metal regulatory element on the promoter region of the metallothionein gene and turns on the synthesis of more metallothionein.

Metallic ions, either free or disassociated from dissolved soluble salts are
absorbed and isolated by ligands in the saliva, usually metalloproteins. (The
main reason you are meant to chew your food well). Metallothionein (MT) is a
relatively small molecule that binds heavy metals including silver, cadmium,
iron, copper and zinc, and is made by most cells in our body.

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Re: CSIonic Silver transport throught the digestive tract an into the cells.

2008-10-09 Thread Dee


What?  dee

larry tankersley wrote:

Now that is interesting! Where did you come up with that?

larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA




  



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Re: CSaerobic oxygen

2008-10-09 Thread Dee


I love it Chuck!  dee

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:



Our lager,
   Which art in barrels,
   Hallowed be thy drink,
   Thy will be drunk,
   (I will be drunk),
   At home as I am in the tavern.
   Give us this day our foamy head,
   And forgive us our spillages,
   As we forgive those who spill against us,
   and lead us not to incarceration,
   But deliver us from hangovers,
   For thine is the beer,
   The bitter and the lager,
   Forever and ever,
   Barmen.

Chuck

Jesus saves. Allah forgives. Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich



  




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CSNebulisers

2008-10-09 Thread tom chick

My old one quit working. I lost all the info I had saved on the ones 
recommended  by fellow CS members. Please,any suggestions as I want to be ready 
for flu season. Thanks in advance, Tom



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