Re: CScolor change dog's paws and legs ---Using CS In Hair
Hi There Cathy - I use EIS in my hair any time, after washing it, during the day, whenever I feel like it not only does it rejuvenate the hair follicles it also deals with dandruff, skin cancer, and makes the hair fuller with more body Take good care and USE the EIS for everything, if after a try, it does not work, then try something else this is a product which has been given to us to use for our personal complete health care, thanks to the pioneers who lurk on this list who have been working for over 50 years in research who have given the process to us for free - so go for it Regards to all Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!!
That lends a lot of weight to the trauma theory of what causes allergies, which is that if you experience a trauma of some sort, physical or emotional, at the same time as you are being exposed to some otherwise harmless substance -- cats, pollen, milk, whatever -- then your body may inappropriately associate that substance with the trauma, and learn that it needs to fight against it whenever it encounters it, and a new allergen is born. The treatment simply reverses the learning process to eliminate the allergy. Google advanced allergy therapeutics for lots of info. dick - Original Message From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 10:11:20 PM Subject: Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!! You miss my point. Regardless of the precipitating cause of any allergy, it doesn't necessarily follow that removing the triggering factor will remove the allergy. During my own 25 year history of allergies, when I have been in the midst of a severe attack I have often developed new permanent allergies to substances to which I was formerly either not at all sensitive or so minorly sensitive that that substance alone never caused a reaction. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSProduction of CS info?
I have bought, made, and stored CS in both glass and plastic, mostly plastic of various kinds. I have never seen any difference in it due to the container. Dick From: er...@redangelbordeaux.com er...@redangelbordeaux.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 2:51:11 AM Subject: Re: CSProduction of CS info? I wanted to say thanks to the couple of people who responded to my first post. I have been looking at the SG6 SG7 for purchase on generators for the CS but not sure yet which one to invest in. The plastic vs. glass containers still is confusing to me I've read so many controversial things on this subject. One thing even said to use glass containers with cork for lids only? Plastics - there are several kinds and lids are rarely made from the same material as the container. What about spray tops? Glass OR plastic container the spray top will be plastic and likely several types of plastic and metal will be in the spray mechanism? So how much am I over thinking this? :)
Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ?
Um ... don't think so. When you flatten it out (wire, coin, anything), a lot of what used to be inside (and therefore not surface), will now be on the outside (and therefore be added to the surface area). Mathematically, consider a circular cross section of wire, with, e.g., a radius of one millimeter. The area is pi sq mm, or, roughly, 3 square millimeters. The circumference, which would be the surface area, is 2*pi, or roughly 6 millimeters. Now squish it down so that instead of a circle, you have a very thin rectangle that is 30 mm long by 1/3 mm thick. The area is still 1 square millimeter, but the circumference is now 60-2/3 mm, 10 times as much surface area as before. Dick From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 2:38:24 PM Subject: Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ? Why flatten and weaken the silver wire? It will still have the same available surface Round or Flat. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ.
CSSilver Meter
Hello, I'm looking for any thoughts on meters to check the ppm. Someone told me you needed the Hanna PWT that costs about $60. I found a Hanna Primo for half that. The fellow that told me about the PWT says he checked the Primo and it wasn't accurate. I contacted the company that sold it to me and they said it basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT. I would like to be able to be fairly certain what ppm I'm making. Any comments on this is appreciated. -Thanks Gary Native American style flutes Matted photos by ~ Gajon ~ www.etsy.com/shop/gajon
Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ?
So with more surface area you will be making it faster? I use 1 troy oz coins with a little over half in the water and was told by someone that 6 of 12 gauge wire has more contact area. Is that correct? Thanks Native American style flutes Matted photos by ~ Gajon ~ www.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 7:34:10 AM Subject: Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ? Um ... don't think so. When you flatten it out (wire, coin, anything), a lot of what used to be inside (and therefore not surface), will now be on the outside (and therefore be added to the surface area). Mathematically, consider a circular cross section of wire, with, e.g., a radius of one millimeter. The area is pi sq mm, or, roughly, 3 square millimeters. The circumference, which would be the surface area, is 2*pi, or roughly 6 millimeters. Now squish it down so that instead of a circle, you have a very thin rectangle that is 30 mm long by 1/3 mm thick. The area is still 1 square millimeter, but the circumference is now 60-2/3 mm, 10 times as much surface area as before. Dick From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 2:38:24 PM Subject: Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ? Why flatten and weaken the silver wire? It will still have the same available surface Round or Flat. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ.
Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ?
I'll try this: 12 gauge wire is 0.0808 inches in diameter, which means the circumference is (pi * .0808), which is about 1/4. So the surface area of the wire is about 6 * 1/4, or 1.33 square inches. That could be very close to the surface area of the coin, depending on the diameter of the coin. The surface area of the coin is (2 * pi * diameter). You can figure that one out once you measure it. Of course you also have to consider how far into the water you put the coin and the wire. Dick From: GARY ABEL gajo...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 7:46:11 AM Subject: Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ? So with more surface area you will be making it faster? I use 1 troy oz coins with a little over half in the water and was told by someone that 6 of 12 gauge wire has more contact area. Is that correct? Thanks Native American style flutes Matted photos by ~ Gajon ~ www.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 7:34:10 AM Subject: Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ? Um ... don't think so. When you flatten it out (wire, coin, anything), a lot of what used to be inside (and therefore not surface), will now be on the outside (and therefore be added to the surface area). Mathematically, consider a circular cross section of wire, with, e.g., a radius of one millimeter. The area is pi sq mm, or, roughly, 3 square millimeters. The circumference, which would be the surface area, is 2*pi, or roughly 6 millimeters. Now squish it down so that instead of a circle, you have a very thin rectangle that is 30 mm long by 1/3 mm thick. The area is still 1 square millimeter, but the circumference is now 60-2/3 mm, 10 times as much surface area as before. Dick From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 2:38:24 PM Subject: Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ? Why flatten and weaken the silver wire? It will still have the same available surface Round or Flat. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ.
Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ?
I think they are talking about coins. dee On 7 Mar 2010, at 19:38, Tel Tofflemire wrote: Why flatten and weaken the silver wire? It will still have the same available surface Round or Flat. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 10:57:41 AM Subject: Re: CS How to flatten Silver wire In a message dated 3/6/2010 7:52:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bhangcha...@gmail.com writes: A silversmith would have a roller device that could roll out the coins cleanly. Find a railroad track let the train do it. Did that many times as a kid --Does a great job... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO
Actually, I have just read further damning indictments on DMSO. Any comments anyone? dee On 8 Mar 2010, at 13:46, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Has anyone heard of Christopher Scipio? Just that I have just read a damning indictment of DMSO by him in the treatment of herpes and wondered if anyone has any knowledge of him--or is he just another Quackwatch crank? dee -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLYME AND SILVER
She is using this one... http://meissnerresearch.com/products/DP100 Lots more information about this and many other things folks are doing for their Chronic Lyme on my free lyme resource CD. See website below... Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams -Original Message- From: Peter Converse [mailto:pconve...@primus.ca] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 4:58 PM To: Scott Adams; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLYME AND SILVER never mind Scott...just found this post after the fact. Peter p.s. which Rife machine? - Original Message - From: Scott Adams msad...@msadams.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 2:24 PM Subject: RE: CSLYME AND SILVER Whoops typo there. Ridge machine meant RIFE machine! -Original Message- From: Scott Adams [mailto:msad...@msadams.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 1:10 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSLYME AND SILVER I am a bit behind in reading the list. Sorry to be so late on this one. My wife got back 80+% of her health by taking 12 ounces of our homemade EIS (CS) a day. Later she added a ridge machine to the mix and seems to come the rest of the way home. CS is an amazing antibiotic! Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams -Original Message- From: Richard Goodwin [mailto:dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLYME AND SILVER Yes, infusion -- either IV drip or direct injection into arm vein. Yes, encouraging for sure. But the cost to them in terms of well-founded paranoia is a real shame. The Dr is afraid to be associated in any official way with CS, and is even very careful about lyme diagnoses -- we had to get tested by turning in our blood samples to a vet because vets have better tests than the medical establishment does. And the guy who actually supplied the silver is extra careful as well, but in spite of that has been threatened on more than one occasion. Serious threats to his life. His brother works for CIA, and he has treated a number of very high level officials in government, so between those two he has some protection, he thinks. Still, he stays far below the radar. And of course I have long ago forgotten who these people are... Dick - Original Message From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 7:21:08 AM Subject: Re: CSLYME AND SILVER Infusion is like IV drip? ..done by a friend of the doctor? If that's the case it shows that doctors do often think out of the box, but just can't DO out of the box and some have the guts to make that whispered prescription along with the denial it allows. ..not all evil slaves to the system where making money and self defense [set up by consumers] are the major motivators of service limitations. I once shipped 6 CS generators to a NYC hospital [no names on that order..paid for by the hospital to disappear into some broom closet in it] and several more to doctors [of something or the other ], many to Vets and some to actual MDs. [for use by their own families? ]..and who knows how many that filtered their way in though 3rd parties running unlabeled next to a water cooler with a By the way...get some of that water on your way out [Can't tell you what it is, but drink some every few hours]. An encouraging story. Ode At 04:49 AM 2/18/2010 -0800, you wrote: Hello Orv, I'm not sure if this email was to me or not, but I'll answer it anyway. It was my wife who really had lyme symptoms 3 years ago. She was tired all the time, head in a fog, and couldn't get through a day without a nap or two, had no energy for normal activities, starting to get some arthritis, especially in her legs. There were probably more symptoms, but I don't remember. She had a blood test that came back positive, so our Dr tested me as well, and I also tested positive, so we both went on the CS, made by a friend of our Dr who saved his own life when he was half dead from lyme symptoms. We both got infusions of CS -- about 20 cc if I remember correctly -- every week or two to start, then less often as time went on. We also drank 3-4 oz a day of CS. We stopped the infusions after a year or so, but have continued the CS since then (3+ years) because we also haven't had colds, flu or flu shots or any other illness since we started the CS. I had not noticed any symptoms that I would have
RE: CS LYME disease
Hi Marty, I have captured a lot of information about how people are treating their Chronic Lyme and more. See the website below for a free copy of the cd. Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com http://www.lyme-resource.com/ You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams _ From: martsmai...@aol.com [mailto:martsmai...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 4:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS LYME disease CS LYME disease I am sorry, can I have lyme disease testimonies again,Thanks Marty
CSD3 - again- OT
Just read some info on liposomal D3 having been used to treat leukaemia. I'll ask again - has anyone tried making this? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSGMO
Here is why the Canadian govt. is getting away with GM foods. Most all = farm organizations, even organic organizations, rely heavily on = government for recognition, public awareness, trade missions, testing, = marketing, grants, subsidies, etc. To oppose the government then, is to = threaten one's own financial life. For this reason, farm organizations = have special persons designated as government liaison people - to keep = the money coming. So in Canada, when the Conservative government defeated a private = members' bill to require GMO labels on imported foods, not one organic = producers association objected. Not one. And one provincial organic = producer organization (which relies heavily on federal program support) = is headed by the campaign manager for a sitting rural MP (who voted with = his government). One Ontario Indian band was told by the Canadian = government, it would lose all their grant money if it allowed a debate = on vaccines to proceed. The band dutifully cancelled the debate. It can = be no different in the U.S. Get the picture? Leo -= ---
Re: CSDMSO
I have seen too much good to be convinced by allegations. You can look up a MSDS to see the toxic dose is nowhere near what is used. Leo - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:55 AM Subject: Re: CSDMSO Actually, I have just read further damning indictments on DMSO. Any comments anyone? dee On 8 Mar 2010, at 13:46, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Has anyone heard of Christopher Scipio? Just that I have just read a damning indictment of DMSO by him in the treatment of herpes and wondered if anyone has any knowledge of him--or is he just another Quackwatch crank? dee -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuik Clot Sport Silver
Oh yes, cayenne has disinfecting properties. You can even pack dry cayenne powder into a wound and it will not only stop the bleeding, but stop the infection and somehow the body absorbs it and it won't leave granules in the wound to get infected later. Samala, Renee--who used cayenne tincture to stop bleeding when she sliced 3 fingers with her table saw. :-) ---Original Message--- I doubt it has any disinfecting properties? So I guess if you mixed up a paste of Cayenne and c/s you would have the best of both worlds, a clogging agent and a disinfectant.
Re: CSGMO
Leo, Wow... the nazis/fascists are in control there too. This must be opposed and stopped... they are on a program of eugenics to depopulate the globe. These people are insane and dangerous. I don't know what we can do as ordinary citizens, but their ruthless evil programs must be stopped at all costs. - Original Message - From: Leo Regehr To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:31 AM Subject: CSGMO Here is why the Canadian govt. is getting away with GM foods. Most all = farm organizations, even organic organizations, rely heavily on = government for recognition, public awareness, trade missions, testing, = marketing, grants, subsidies, etc. To oppose the government then, is to = threaten one's own financial life. For this reason, farm organizations = have special persons designated as government liaison people - to keep = the money coming. So in Canada, when the Conservative government defeated a private = members' bill to require GMO labels on imported foods, not one organic = producers association objected. Not one. And one provincial organic = producer organization (which relies heavily on federal program support) = is headed by the campaign manager for a sitting rural MP (who voted with = his government). One Ontario Indian band was told by the Canadian = government, it would lose all their grant money if it allowed a debate = on vaccines to proceed. The band dutifully cancelled the debate. It can = be no different in the U.S. Get the picture? Leo -= ---
Re: CSGMO
Vote in 2010! Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote: = Leo, Wow... the nazis/fascists are in control there too. This must be opposed and stopped... they are on a program of eugenics to depopulate the globe. These people are insane and dangerous. I don't know what we can do as ordinary citizens, but their ruthless evil programs must be stopped at all costs. - Original Message - From: Leo Regehr To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:31 AM Subject: CSGMO Here is why the Canadian govt. is getting away with GM foods. Most all = farm organizations, even organic organizations, rely heavily on = government for recognition, public awareness, trade missions, testing, = marketing, grants, subsidies, etc. To oppose the government then, is to = threaten one's own financial life. For this reason, farm organizations = have special persons designated as government liaison people - to keep = the money coming. So in Canada, when the Conservative government defeated a private = members' bill to require GMO labels on imported foods, not one organic = producers association objected. Not one. And one provincial organic = producer organization (which relies heavily on federal program support) = is headed by the campaign manager for a sitting rural MP (who voted with = his government). One Ontario Indian band was told by the Canadian = government, it would lose all their grant money if it allowed a debate = on vaccines to proceed. The band dutifully cancelled the debate. It can = be no different in the U.S. Get the picture? Leo -= --- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ?
Go head and smash your coins, wire, strips of silver. Your call, however they will become limber and will cost you more in the long run. Also a smashed piece of silver will give off a lot of flakes over time and are lost forever, unless you want to put them all back together again..Duh !, -0- I use 2 of the Silver Maple leaf Canadian $5.00 1 oz fine silver, the purest silver coin ever made. Now they cost $20.00 to $24.00 each depending on vender and spot market price of silver. Many years ago I bought a bunch of them for $8.00 usa each. I also drilled a small hole in the top of each coin I used and put in the hole and twisted the pure silver wire rods tight. I then could lower the coins to the middle of my gallon jar that is full of pure distilled water. My Colloid Master Model 777 does the rest of the work, making perfect CS. It shuts off automatically when it reaches my desired PPM. This has served me now for over 12 years, same as the Maple Leaf coins, I replaced the wire once or twice. Some of you beginners are making this too difficult . Its very simple, even for me. Good Luck ! Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. http://www.quailwoodherbal.com From: GARY ABEL gajo...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 5:46:11 AM Subject: Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ? So with more surface area you will be making it faster? I use 1 troy oz coins with a little over half in the water and was told by someone that 6 of 12 gauge wire has more contact area. Is that correct? Thanks Native American style flutes Matted photos by ~ Gajon ~ www.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 7:34:10 AM Subject: Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ? Um ... don't think so. When you flatten it out (wire, coin, anything), a lot of what used to be inside (and therefore not surface), will now be on the outside (and therefore be added to the surface area). Mathematically, consider a circular cross section of wire, with, e.g., a radius of one millimeter. The area is pi sq mm, or, roughly, 3 square millimeters. The circumference, which would be the surface area, is 2*pi, or roughly 6 millimeters. Now squish it down so that instead of a circle, you have a very thin rectangle that is 30 mm long by 1/3 mm thick. The area is still 1 square millimeter, but the circumference is now 60-2/3 mm, 10 times as much surface area as before. Dick From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 2:38:24 PM Subject: Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ? Why flatten and weaken the silver wire? It will still have the same available surface Round or Flat. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ.
CSIonic Silver is a Good Wood Preservative
For those who may be interested, ionic silver is a good wood preservative. However it will cause some discoloring. For info see: An Investigation into the Potential of Ionic Silver as a Wood Preservative http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf2004/fpl_2004_dorau001.pdf - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Meter
I have both hanna meters,$35.00 + S H the small one is 2 ppm higher reading than the large expensive one $140.00, + S H but as long as you test it and allow for that small error who cares? My Model 77 Colloid Master will test the silver ppm and the water I use in it. But I use the hanna testers for my own satisfaction, and show. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: GARY ABEL gajo...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 5:40:56 AM Subject: CSSilver Meter Hello, I'm looking for any thoughts on meters to check the ppm. Someone told me you needed the Hanna PWT that costs about $60. I found a Hanna Primo for half that. The fellow that told me about the PWT says he checked the Primo and it wasn't accurate. I contacted the company that sold it to me and they said it basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT. I would like to be able to be fairly certain what ppm I'm making. Any comments on this is appreciated. -ThanksGary Native American style flutes Matted photos by ~ Gajon ~ www.etsy.com/shop/gajon
Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ?
Stop and think about it Dick, Weight does not change, only Density on a flattened wire or coin, may be larger but way weaker in strength. Been there Done that... My last comment on this subject ! Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 5:34:10 AM Subject: Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ? Um ... don't think so. When you flatten it out (wire, coin, anything), a lot of what used to be inside (and therefore not surface), will now be on the outside (and therefore be added to the surface area). Mathematically, consider a circular cross section of wire, with, e.g., a radius of one millimeter. The area is pi sq mm, or, roughly, 3 square millimeters. The circumference, which would be the surface area, is 2*pi, or roughly 6 millimeters. Now squish it down so that instead of a circle, you have a very thin rectangle that is 30 mm long by 1/3 mm thick. The area is still 1 square millimeter, but the circumference is now 60-2/3 mm, 10 times as much surface area as before. Dick From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 2:38:24 PM Subject: Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ? Why flatten and weaken the silver wire? It will still have the same available surface Round or Flat. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ.
Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ?
It will still have the same available surface Round or Flat. My comments were addressed to yours above. I'm not talking about strength, only about surface area. Dick From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 10:56:00 AM Subject: Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ? Stop and think about it Dick, Weight does not change, only Density on a flattened wire or coin, may be larger but way weaker in strength. Been there Done that... My last comment on this subject ! Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 5:34:10 AM Subject: Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ? Um ... don't think so. When you flatten it out (wire, coin, anything), a lot of what used to be inside (and therefore not surface), will now be on the outside (and therefore be added to the surface area). Mathematically, consider a circular cross section of wire, with, e.g., a radius of one millimeter. The area is pi sq mm, or, roughly, 3 square millimeters. The circumference, which would be the surface area, is 2*pi, or roughly 6 millimeters. Now squish it down so that instead of a circle, you have a very thin rectangle that is 30 mm long by 1/3 mm thick. The area is still 1 square millimeter, but the circumference is now 60-2/3 mm, 10 times as much surface area as before. Dick From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 2:38:24 PM Subject: Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ? Why flatten and weaken the silver wire? It will still have the same available surface Round or Flat. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDMSO
Christopher Scipio's objections seem to fall into the following arguments: * Only pharmaceutical grade DMSO (USP) which is 99.9 pure is safe for use with humans * Industrial and veternarian grade DMSO which is only 99% pure is impure and unsafe to use * There are no studies showing DMSO is effective against herpes * It is dangerous because the solvent properties of DMSO allows contaminants to be absorbed through the skin and transported into the bloodstream. *On exposure to air it forms a very high and toxic level of peroxides. Personally, I find nothing alarming in his arguments. Yes, you need to take care when using DMSO to not contaminate the DMSO or the skin where the DMSO is applied. Ok, so be careful. I found nothing online regarding the formation of very high and toxic level of peroxides. Actually, I often combine DMSO with hydrogen peroxide so I guess that would not bother me. Seems alarmist to me but each to his own. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDMSO Has anyone heard of Christopher Scipio? Just that I have just read a damning indictment of DMSO by him in the treatment of herpes and wondered if anyone has any knowledge of him--or is he just another Quackwatch crank? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSIonic Silver is a Good Wood Preservative
Wow Steve, What a find. There are some love data and references in that article. Well done. Tony On 8 Mar 2010 at 9:49, Norton, Steve wrote about : Subject : CSIonic Silver is a Good Wood Preservative For those who may be interested, ionic silver is a good wood preservative. However it will cause some discoloring. For info see: An Investigation into the Potential of Ionic Silver as a Wood Preservative http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf2004/fpl_2004_dorau001.pdf - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectarchives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDMSO
As to veterinary grade DMSO I hardly think horse owners would use an impure product on their million dollar race horses and I think I'm worth at least that much so have no fears using it. :) When one takes into consideration DMSO is used for preserving frozen human embryos and frozen transplant organs the boogeyman scare tactics about it's dangers to the human body fall somewhat flat. Dr. Stanley Jocobs who has done extensive research on DMSO and it's many benefits has found it does no damage to any human systems. He in fact takes DMSO as a preventative measure everyday and has done so for many years without any damage. There is no doubt that before one uses DMSO they should research and find out the proper ways to use it and should use a reliable authority [Dr Stanley Jacobs] to gain their knowledge from. DMSO is to be respected but so should CS, Vitamins and certainly any chemical drugs and foods etc. one puts in or on one's body. I personally pay very little attention to what the naysayers have to say about DMSO. Sandy --- On Mon, 3/8/10, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com Subject: RE: CSDMSO To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 10:14 AM Christopher Scipio's objections seem to fall into the following arguments: * Only pharmaceutical grade DMSO (USP) which is 99.9 pure is safe for use with humans * Industrial and veternarian grade DMSO which is only 99% pure is impure and unsafe to use * There are no studies showing DMSO is effective against herpes * It is dangerous because the solvent properties of DMSO allows contaminants to be absorbed through the skin and transported into the bloodstream. *On exposure to air it forms a very high and toxic level of peroxides. Personally, I find nothing alarming in his arguments. Yes, you need to take care when using DMSO to not contaminate the DMSO or the skin where the DMSO is applied. Ok, so be careful. I found nothing online regarding the formation of very high and toxic level of peroxides. Actually, I often combine DMSO with hydrogen peroxide so I guess that would not bother me. Seems alarmist to me but each to his own. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDMSO Has anyone heard of Christopher Scipio? Just that I have just read a damning indictment of DMSO by him in the treatment of herpes and wondered if anyone has any knowledge of him--or is he just another Quackwatch crank? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO
What gets me is the nay saying about DMSO and not a word about the hundreds of toxic chemicals we're exposed to very day of the year that end up in out bodies without our consent. They're far more dangerous than DMSO could ever be. It's straining at fleas and swallowing camels. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Sandy wrote: As to veterinary grade DMSO I hardly think horse owners would use an impure product on their million dollar race horses and I think I'm worth at least that much so have no fears using it. :) When one takes into consideration DMSO is used for preserving frozen human embryos and frozen transplant organs the boogeyman scare tactics about it's dangers to the human body fall somewhat flat. Dr. Stanley Jocobs who has done extensive research on DMSO and it's many benefits has found it does no damage to any human systems. He in fact takes DMSO as a preventative measure everyday and has done so for many years without any damage. There is no doubt that before one uses DMSO they should research and find out the proper ways to use it and should use a reliable authority [Dr Stanley Jacobs] to gain their knowledge from. DMSO is to be respected but so should CS, Vitamins and certainly any chemical drugs and foods etc. one puts in or on one's body. I personally pay very little attention to what the naysayers have to say about DMSO. Sandy --- On *Mon, 3/8/10, Norton, Steve /stephen.nor...@ngc.com/* wrote: From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com Subject: RE: CSDMSO To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 10:14 AM Christopher Scipio's objections seem to fall into the following arguments: * Only pharmaceutical grade DMSO (USP) which is 99.9 pure is safe for use with humans * Industrial and veternarian grade DMSO which is only 99% pure is impure and unsafe to use * There are no studies showing DMSO is effective against herpes * It is dangerous because the solvent properties of DMSO allows contaminants to be absorbed through the skin and transported into the bloodstream. *On exposure to air it forms a very high and toxic level of peroxides. Personally, I find nothing alarming in his arguments. Yes, you need to take care when using DMSO to not contaminate the DMSO or the skin where the DMSO is applied. Ok, so be careful. I found nothing online regarding the formation of very high and toxic level of peroxides. Actually, I often combine DMSO with hydrogen peroxide so I guess that would not bother me. Seems alarmist to me but each to his own. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org /mc/compose?to=...@deetroy.org] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com Subject: CSDMSO Has anyone heard of Christopher Scipio? Just that I have just read a damning indictment of DMSO by him in the treatment of herpes and wondered if anyone has any knowledge of him--or is he just another Quackwatch crank? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!!
Since it is on the paws, maybe the dog is stepping into the water dish. That would color the entire hair from end to end. Marshall sol wrote: At 10:39 AM 3/6/2010, you wrote: I saw it before my own eyes and so did husband for the paw and leg color change, so that's my proof--.it's proof to 4 eyes... To my mind you have NO proof that CS caused the color change. All you have is an association. And as so many mistaken medical/drug intervention studies have shown, an association is NOT proof. sol P.S. under a more definitive subject heading I am posting a question that may get some input from other list members. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDMSO (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Not to mention that a lot of Doctors use DMSO on prize athletes, not Sure which one they use. But some of the athletes are worth more than The prize horses. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: CScolor change dog's paws and legs, would like opinions on how CS could cause it?
This likely the only area that gets any sunlight, with the fur so short, and maybe white. So if argyria were to develop, that is the place to expect it. Marshall carolG wrote: Sol, Perhaps my message didn't come through with the a response to your question of my dogs color of fur or skin color noticeable changes or it was missed. So here's the answer: skin color on paws and legs only changed--not fur. Believe it or not, this is my story and our eyes including the VET seeing it too which I just remember asking him about. I don't exactly recall how many days or weeks, at this point as I didn't chart it, but my posts you may be able to track for more exact details before it became noticeable. It may have just happenedI don't have scientific proof to back up my sayings other than my eyes and others who saw dog. I'm not here to defend my position but learn from the group. For me it is a great group and I am not going to knock others finding great results as you have experienced. I wish I could say that for my dog, but still I remain happy for others who are getting great results. Why two of my local health food stores are not selling it is a mystery to me. I am grateful I found a local source when desperate to turn too. I found a new local friend because of it too. So this is only my story and I'm sure for this one there are fabulous stories. So I hope I was being more responsive to not attack you but say it as politely as possible that this is what we experienced only. I speak or one person here--me. Why do some eat anything they want and never get sick and then there are others who eat it once and get deathly sick? I'm thinking MSG in various disguise names and forms. So who knows why her paws/legs turned silver quicker than most others. Who knows and not important for me to speculate. Thanks for asking this question again as I am not the type of person who avoids responding to any questions I see. So I say you decide for yourself what caused my dog's legs and paws to turn color and return back to her color and I'm come to my own conclusion. Both of us can be right in our mind, but for me I had the visual evidence only upon examination. Phew...enough on this topic so let others read this and go on to decide for themselves. Carolg *From:* sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sat, March 6, 2010 8:32:58 PM *Subject:* CScolor change dog's paws and legs, would like opinions on how CS could cause it? All, My question to the list is: does anyone have any ideas as to what possible way CS could cause this kind of color change in one month or less? And have it reverse in a short period of time thereafter? I have left a bit of the previous exchange, more details are in other posts between Carol G and myself under the subject Clay.Lupus dog... Carol continues to insist that her dog's paws/legs had a color change from previous color (not specified) to silverish. I have asked her a few times whether this was a change in fur color or skin color and she has so far never answered that question, or if her statement below is her answer it is unclear to me whether the skin or the fur changed color. I don't believe that a month of ingestion of some CS (quantity unspecified ?) could possibly cause such a color change. I have given 50/50 CS water and now straight CS to my cats for YEARS and never seen any hint of such. So I believe Carol is quite wrong that CS caused the color change, and that something else caused it. sol At 09:57 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote: Sol, Hair color from CS didn't change, but yes to the legs and paws; they have gone back to their normal color now. Are you saying this was a change in the SKIN color? Not the fur on the paws? Even if it is, I do not believe this could be from the small amount of time he got some CS. I have blue moons but they took over 2 years of approx a quart a day to show up. CS just doesn't accumulate that fast. sol -- T -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuik Clot Sport Silver
Wow, 2600 ppm of a silver compound. Wonder which compound it is, likely citrate. Masrhall Smitty wrote: product called Quik Clot Sport Silver. It's active ingredient against bacteria is Ionic Silver, 26 mg/g max. http://www.vtarmynavy.com/quik-clot-sport-silver.htm Pat I've read that cayenne pepper is also good for deep cuts. Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSmartStax Corn: Corporate War on Bees
This email I'm posting is a response to whomever it was that said that there was no harm to bees and other beneficial insects from GMO crops. There is wealth of information at the ISIS website about GMO crops. This is an excerpt from the report. To read the rest of the report go to the links provided in the article. Annie - Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh *** The Institute of Science in Society Science Society Sustainability http://www.i-sis.org.uk This article can be found on the I-SIS website at http://www.i-sis.org.uk/SmartStaxCornCorporateWarOnBees.php ISIS Report 08/03/10 SmartStax Corn: Corporate War on Bees US regulatory agencies are aiding and abetting in killing bees and more Prof. Joe Cummins SmartStax corn Smartstax is a genetically modified (GM) corn that has eight GM traits combined or ‘stacked’ together, six for insect resistance (Bt) and two for herbicide tolerance. Current stacked GM trait crops on the market only have up to three traits each. SmartStax was created through a collaboration between Monsanto and Dow AgroSciences, allowing the two corporations to share GM traits. The traits are combined together using crosses between existing transgenic corn lines rather than using genetic transformation of a single maize strain. Interestingly, a collection of old transgenes brought together with traditional crosses are being described as the ‘new’ technology. Monsanto and Dow are predicting that SmartStax will be the largest commercial launch of a single GM corn because it will replace a lot of the existing GM corn varieties on the market. The main benefit of Smartstax maize is that it provides above and below ground insect protection along with tolerance to two herbicides (glyphosate and glufosinate) [1]. Herbicide tolerance and insect resistance genes are engineered in redundant combinations in the belief that it will prevent establishment of resistances to herbicides and the Bt proteins among weeds and insect pests respectively [2]. The USDA provided a premium reduction in the cost of crop insurance for farmers growing Smartstax maize while the US EPA granted a reduction in the size of the refuge area set aside from 20 percent to 5 percent, which constitutes substantial government financial incentives for growing Smartstax maize [3]. It is supposed to protect growers of Smartstax maize from the uncertainties of climatic instabilities associated with global warming. The USDA crop insurance program covers organic farmers too, but fails to protect the organic premium on price and will not consider the crop loss from pollen contamination from GM crops. Organic and conventional growers are placed at a clear disadvantage in comparison to growers of Smartstax corn. Read the rest of this report here http://www.i-sis.org.uk/SmartStaxCornCorporateWarOnBees.php Or read other articles about GM corn http://www.i-sis.org.uk/GE-agriculture.php Or read other articles about disappearing bees http://www.i-sis.org.uk/disappearingBees.php This article can be found on the I-SIS website at http://www.i-sis.org.uk/SmartStaxCornCorporateWarOnBees.php All new articles are also announced on our RSS feed http://www.i-sis.org.uk/feed.xml ISIS is an independent, not-for-profit organisation dedicated to providing critical public information on cutting edge science, and to promoting social accountability and ecological sustainability in science. If you would like to be removed from our mailing list unsubscribe at http://www.i-sis.org.uk/unsubscribe or email unsubscr...@i-sis.org.uk -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScolor change dog's paws and legs, would like opinions on how CS could cause it?
Fur was long till she started losing lots of hair around January--she was already weaned down from it at this point...who knows...interesting all this talk, but still today noticing great improvements as my goal..thanks for sharing.. carolg From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 10:19:20 AM Subject: Re: CScolor change dog's paws and legs, would like opinions on how CS could cause it? This likely the only area that gets any sunlight, with the fur so short, and maybe white. So if argyria were to develop, that is the place to expect it. Marshall carolG wrote: Sol, Perhaps my message didn't come through with the a response to your question of my dogs color of fur or skin color noticeable changes or it was missed. So here's the answer: Even if it is, I do not believe this could be from the small amount of time he got some CS. I have blue moons but they took over 2 years of approx a quart a day to show up. CS just doesn't accumulate that fast. sol -- T -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!!
Marshall, She doesn't step into any water dishes; but the few times only I put clay on her paws as a newbie with clay. Right now my main area concentrating on is skin including legs, without pawsthere is enough to deal with here as starter..thanks tons carolg From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 10:16:46 AM Subject: Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!! Since it is on the paws, maybe the dog is stepping into the water dish. That would color the entire hair from end to end. Marshall sol wrote: At 10:39 AM 3/6/2010, you wrote: I saw it before my own eyes and so did husband for the paw and leg color change, so that's my proof--.it's proof to 4 eyes... To my mind you have NO proof that CS caused the color change. All you have is an association. And as
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #297
Is there any way to make colloidal or ionic boron? Leo - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 9:56 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #297
Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!!
Thanks Tony! After looking at the mange pictures, its now apparent to me, that Sheldon, our Sheltie, had/has mange. She had it on her backside. I'm ordering borax off the internet, since I have no idea where to buy it elsewhere, in Germany, and will try bathing the dogs in that. That's probably why we're not winning the fight, cause these little buggers live right under the skin, and who knows where their little colony is... it makes sense to soak the dog in it for a while, and then let the stuff dry on the dog, without towels. Aldi On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Tony Moody a...@new.co.za wrote: For itching , scratching pets try borax treatment: http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html Tony On 5 Mar 2010 at 13:31, carolG wrote about : Subject : Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recover Aldi, no vaccinations in the 9 yrs owner here but prior probably so which I will never know. I was iffy on the raw fish for the parasites and familiar with Ian's work. I know cooking kills immune system, she was raw for 9 yrs but sadly only loved game meat and sometimes raw ground chicken--otherwise no supplement--nothing--she became deficient plus a bad tooth may have brought her system down--I won't know as she never complains or visits vet--we made up with that this time since sick. Only drug in 9 yrs. as owner was recent--reason for outrageous skin attacknot way better and she is more in control I give her raw ground up veggies with her foods too! Plus supplements muscle tested for...I can say improvements are evident even to my skeptic hubby--he's finally turning around his tune and seeing results carol From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 2:03:10 PM Subject: Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!! I also feed our dogs raw foods, and only on occasion, a bowl of high quality kibble. Its a salmon and rice kibble from Skinners, but that's like 2-4 times a month! When was the last time your dog got a shot? I stopped giving them to my dogs, and will be breeding without using any kind of chemicals. My dogs won't have papers, but they will be healthier than the ones that are mandatory vaccinated, dewormed, and whatever. You should try feeding her the fish raw, since cooking literally kills enzymes and minerals. It does make a difference, raw and cooked. Check out Billingshurst, Ian. He's a vet from Australia and has now we have to suffer the consequences, as we both suffer in the end. Aldi On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:17 PM, carolG cgiam...@yahoo.com wrote: Aldi, I can totally relate to your itch dog concerns. Mine can to stop when I raise my voice saying hey and she immediately stops; I have been using a Chinese herb vet gave us for skin but she was trying to get her skin to lessen from the red color. I am not -- ---. Thanks Dan for clay info...I have making it as a paste first before applying to dry skin; now wetting down skin first a little and then applying the paste or sometimes just putting down the paste directly to skin which is really most of the time however. I don't think this dog will have one old hair on her body when I am finished w/her. thanks Dan!! Carol, using Living Clay product by aboutclay.com---detox powder, 1 pound size and use a little each time so always fresh instead of making it all at same time... She is drinking clay water too! 2T clay = 1 ounce... From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 11:44:21 AM Subject: Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!! Try hydrating it first. This means mixing it with water to whatever consistency you want and letting it sit for a while until all the clay particles are evenly wetted with the water. Clay can be made into a gel or a slurry, depending on how much water you use. If you put it on your hair dry and then wet it, it could become very Dan On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com wrote: Carol, What's living clay? Here in Germany, they have something called Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:36 PM, carolG cgiam...@yahoo.com wrote: I know this is CS talk, but in addition since tried on my dog, I am now using Living Clay for dog's Lupus RECOVERY. She's been drinking it for 2. Carolg -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour
Re: CSOT- Brooks, Lipo ???please? Liposomal D3? Lipo Glutathione?
Sorry Dee, I have not, but am keeping my eyes open for Liposomal Glutathione especially, and Liposomal D3 also, plus any other applicable nutrients most beneficial for health as liposomes. If I find anything I'll post it (on the SO List I guess, and refer to it here if it doesn't show up here). I thank you for asking that question Dee, as I am nowherenear through with this Lipo thing either, it's as if a whole new field has opened up, andI want to know a *lot* more about it. Could you please post or email to me the link ref using Lipo D3 for Leukemia? Perhaps Brooks would be kind enough to step in and offer suggestions for how we may most safely accomplish these (Lipo D3 or Lipo Glutathione), or in what forms these nutrients are best used as raw materials for making liposomals? Actually I would*really* welcomesuggestions for further reading we can do from Brooks, since he has a betteridea of what we probably need to know...And Iwill continue looking on my own as well. Stay well, Linda :) - -- Original message from Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org: -- Just read some info on liposomal D3 having been used to treat leukaemia. I'll ask again - has anyone tried making this? dee
Re: CSDMSO
So very true, Annie, What about all the chemical drugs prescribed by Dr's on a daily basis and they are well aware of the terrible side effects and the possibility some may even die of reactions to them. Hell, where is the FDA and naysayers where these drug health risks are concerned? I'll tell you where...their talking on the phone finding out how well their pharmaceutical shares are doing! Sandy --- On Mon, 3/8/10, Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com wrote: From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 11:11 AM What gets me is the nay saying about DMSO and not a word about the hundreds of toxic chemicals we're exposed to very day of the year that end up in out bodies without our consent. They're far more dangerous than DMSO could ever be. It's straining at fleas and swallowing camels. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Sandy wrote: As to veterinary grade DMSO I hardly think horse owners would use an impure product on their million dollar race horses and I think I'm worth at least that much so have no fears using it. :) When one takes into consideration DMSO is used for preserving frozen human embryos and frozen transplant organs the boogeyman scare tactics about it's dangers to the human body fall somewhat flat. Dr. Stanley Jocobs who has done extensive research on DMSO and it's many benefits has found it does no damage to any human systems. He in fact takes DMSO as a preventative measure everyday and has done so for many years without any damage. There is no doubt that before one uses DMSO they should research and find out the proper ways to use it and should use a reliable authority [Dr Stanley Jacobs] to gain their knowledge from. DMSO is to be respected but so should CS, Vitamins and certainly any chemical drugs and foods etc. one puts in or on one's body. I personally pay very little attention to what the naysayers have to say about DMSO. Sandy --- On *Mon, 3/8/10, Norton, Steve /stephen.nor...@ngc.com/* wrote: From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com Subject: RE: CSDMSO To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 10:14 AM Christopher Scipio's objections seem to fall into the following arguments: * Only pharmaceutical grade DMSO (USP) which is 99.9 pure is safe for use with humans * Industrial and veternarian grade DMSO which is only 99% pure is impure and unsafe to use * There are no studies showing DMSO is effective against herpes * It is dangerous because the solvent properties of DMSO allows contaminants to be absorbed through the skin and transported into the bloodstream. *On exposure to air it forms a very high and toxic level of peroxides. Personally, I find nothing alarming in his arguments. Yes, you need to take care when using DMSO to not contaminate the DMSO or the skin where the DMSO is applied. Ok, so be careful. I found nothing online regarding the formation of very high and toxic level of peroxides. Actually, I often combine DMSO with hydrogen peroxide so I guess that would not bother me. Seems alarmist to me but each to his own. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org /mc/compose?to=...@deetroy.org] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com Subject: CSDMSO Has anyone heard of Christopher Scipio? Just that I have just read a damning indictment of DMSO by him in the treatment of herpes and wondered if anyone has any knowledge of him--or is he just another Quackwatch crank? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!!
Hi Aldi, I find borax at an ordinary supermarket here in South Africa. Try the laundry section ( it is a good soap or soap additive ) or the insecticides section ( it is sometimes used to control insects). I'm hope it helps. I sometimes use a solution of borax on my own hair as a shampoo. Just because it makes it feel clean, soft and flexible. OK, Tony On 8 Mar 2010 at 19:55, Golden Aldi wrote about : Subject : Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow s Thanks Tony! After looking at the mange pictures, its now apparent to me, that Sheldon, our Sheltie, had/has mange. She had it on her backside. I'm ordering borax off the internet, since I have no idea where to buy it elsewhere, in Germany, and will try bathing the dogs in that. That's probably why we're not winning the fight, cause these little buggers live right under the skin, and who knows where their little colony is... it makes sense to soak the dog in it for a while, and then let the stuff dry on the dog, without towels. Aldi On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Tony Moody a...@new.co.za wrote: For itching , scratching pets try borax treatment: http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html Tony snip -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLYME AND SILVER
Hi Scott, Thanks for the reply. My name is Peter and I am a Lymaholicjust kidding...I have Lyme and co. too and am using a GB4000 and a John Stolar Coil machine along with Salt/C or CS, interspersed with MMS from time to time. This is the backbone of the protocol basically. I have looked at Jim Meissner's devices with interest several times in the past but never seem to get a true feel for their effectiveness. Whenever I've gone on his forum and hung around for a while and whenever I've asked his clients how they are doing I don't seem to get much from my effforts. Maybe I just haven't persisted for long enough...not sure but if I'm going to lay out that kind of cash I'd like to have some reassurance of some sort of a track record with its users. Anything you can add would be most appreciated! Many thanks in advance, Peter - Original Message - From: Scott Adams msad...@msadams.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 9:05 AM Subject: RE: CSLYME AND SILVER She is using this one... http://meissnerresearch.com/products/DP100 Lots more information about this and many other things folks are doing for their Chronic Lyme on my free lyme resource CD. See website below... Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams -Original Message- From: Peter Converse [mailto:pconve...@primus.ca] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 4:58 PM To: Scott Adams; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLYME AND SILVER never mind Scott...just found this post after the fact. Peter p.s. which Rife machine? - Original Message - From: Scott Adams msad...@msadams.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 2:24 PM Subject: RE: CSLYME AND SILVER Whoops typo there. Ridge machine meant RIFE machine! -Original Message- From: Scott Adams [mailto:msad...@msadams.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 1:10 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSLYME AND SILVER I am a bit behind in reading the list. Sorry to be so late on this one. My wife got back 80+% of her health by taking 12 ounces of our homemade EIS (CS) a day. Later she added a ridge machine to the mix and seems to come the rest of the way home. CS is an amazing antibiotic! Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams -Original Message- From: Richard Goodwin [mailto:dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLYME AND SILVER Yes, infusion -- either IV drip or direct injection into arm vein. Yes, encouraging for sure. But the cost to them in terms of well-founded paranoia is a real shame. The Dr is afraid to be associated in any official way with CS, and is even very careful about lyme diagnoses -- we had to get tested by turning in our blood samples to a vet because vets have better tests than the medical establishment does. And the guy who actually supplied the silver is extra careful as well, but in spite of that has been threatened on more than one occasion. Serious threats to his life. His brother works for CIA, and he has treated a number of very high level officials in government, so between those two he has some protection, he thinks. Still, he stays far below the radar. And of course I have long ago forgotten who these people are... Dick - Original Message From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 7:21:08 AM Subject: Re: CSLYME AND SILVER Infusion is like IV drip? ..done by a friend of the doctor? If that's the case it shows that doctors do often think out of the box, but just can't DO out of the box and some have the guts to make that whispered prescription along with the denial it allows. ..not all evil slaves to the system where making money and self defense [set up by consumers] are the major motivators of service limitations. I once shipped 6 CS generators to a NYC hospital [no names on that order..paid for by the hospital to disappear into some broom closet in it] and several more to doctors [of something or the other ], many to Vets and some to actual MDs. [for use by their own families? ]..and who knows how many that filtered their way in though 3rd parties running unlabeled next to a water cooler with a By the way...get some of that water on your way out [Can't tell you what it is, but drink some every few hours]. An encouraging story. Ode At 04:49 AM 2/18/2010 -0800, you wrote: Hello Orv, I'm not sure if this email was to me or not, but I'll answer it anyway. It was my wife who really had lyme symptoms 3 years ago. She was tired all the time, head in a fog, and couldn't get through a day without a nap or two, had no
Re: CSDMSO
Yes. stop reading... Chuck Lose weight - eat stuff you hate. On 3/8/2010 8:55:14 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: Actually, I have just read further damning indictments on DMSO. Any comments anyone? dee On 8 Mar 2010, at 13:46, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Has anyone heard of Christopher Scipio? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGMO
Wow and how sad. Last night watched an episode of Little House in the Prairie. Charles Ingalls got the chance to go to Chicago as rep of Walnut Grove at a national organisation for farmers/railroad conference. He was put in a private compartment on the train, a suite in the plush hotel and wined and dined.. and then taken aside by a guy who said 'we'll make sure you get your grain lift at your local station'. Ingalls was naively delighted. Later in his hotel room a 'lady of the night' knocks on his door saying she'd been sent by the head honcho. He of course refuses. Next day he goes to the conference and the same guy takes him aside saying 'so you'll be voting 'no' to state regulations?'. Ingalls looked confused and then he got it. He stood up and spoke his mind at the farmers meeting, denouncing the bribery and giving up any chance of getting the much needed grain lift for the local train station. He travelled home in the peasants carriage! In this day and age his equivalent would probably have been blackmailed, gotten an incurable disease out of the blue or worse still too damned scared to vote with his conscience for fear of losing dollars. Not wanting to make waves has become a national epidemic, very similar to the one that swept Nazi Germany and occupied Europe. And it makes perfect sense that Irene Sendler, who rescued 2,500 Jewish children from the Warsaw Ghetto in her toolbox lost out on the Nobel Prize to Al Gore who, as someone so eloquently put it, got it for giving a slide show on the environment which cost zillions of carbon miles to make! And the shingles marches on.. quite painful now and I'm awaiting various remedies recommended by all you wonderful listers, on here and elsewhere. sunny A peek into our world.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life Tune in and friend us on Facebook - Pierre Soleil return to earth From: Leo Regehr leoel...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 9:31:45 AM Subject: CSGMO Here is why the Canadian govt. is getting away with GM foods. Most all = farm organizations, even organic organizations, rely heavily on = government for recognition, public awareness, trade missions, testing, = marketing, grants, subsidies, etc. To oppose the government then, is to = threaten one's own financial life. For this reason, farm organizations = have special persons designated as government liaison people - to keep = the money coming. So in Canada, when the Conservative government defeated a private = members' bill to require GMO labels on imported foods, not one organic = producers association objected. Not one. And one provincial organic = producer organization (which relies heavily on federal program support) = is headed by the campaign manager for a sitting rural MP (who voted with = his government). One Ontario Indian band was told by the Canadian = government, it would lose all their grant money if it allowed a debate = on vaccines to proceed. The band dutifully cancelled the debate. It can = be no different in the U.S. Get the picture? Leo -= ---
CSScientists find why sunshine vitamin D is crucial
http://www.discoveryon.info/2010/03/vitamin-d.html The researchers found that immune systems' killer cells, known as T cells, rely on vitamin D to become active and remain dormant and unaware of the possibility of threat from an infection or pathogen if vitamin D is lacking in the blood. When a T cell is exposed to a foreign pathogen, it extends a signaling device or 'antenna' known as a vitamin D receptor, with which it searches for vitamin D, said Carsten Geisler of Copenhagen University's department of international health, immunology and microbiology, who led the study. This means the T cell must have vitamin D or activation of the cell will cease. If the T cells cannot find enough vitamin D in the blood, they won't even begin to mobilize. - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSScientists find why sunshine vitamin D is crucial
Very Interesting Steve :) Thank you. That might explain why with proper levels of vitamin D cancers don't develop. Another tick on the cancer is an immune system problem side. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Norton, Steve wrote: http://www.discoveryon.info/2010/03/vitamin-d.html The researchers found that immune systems' killer cells, known as T cells, rely on vitamin D to become active and remain dormant and unaware of the possibility of threat from an infection or pathogen if vitamin D is lacking in the blood. When a T cell is exposed to a foreign pathogen, it extends a signaling device or 'antenna' known as a vitamin D receptor, with which it searches for vitamin D, said Carsten Geisler of Copenhagen University's department of international health, immunology and microbiology, who led the study. This means the T cell must have vitamin D or activation of the cell will cease. If the T cells cannot find enough vitamin D in the blood, they won't even begin to mobilize. - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSScientists find why sunshine vitamin D is crucial
Hi Steve, Whenever I hear someone say...stay out of the sun or slather on plenty of sunscreen if you're going out in the sun, I just shake my head. If they only knew that it's the vitamin D from the sun that helps prevent skin cancers and so many other illnesses. Of course, I'm not advocating that everyone go out and get burned to a crisp...just get 15 to 20 minutes of sun a day if at all possible. Interesting article, thanks for sharing. Sandy --- On Mon, 3/8/10, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com Subject: CSScientists find why sunshine vitamin D is crucial To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 3:47 PM http://www.discoveryon.info/2010/03/vitamin-d.html The researchers found that immune systems' killer cells, known as T cells, rely on vitamin D to become active and remain dormant and unaware of the possibility of threat from an infection or pathogen if vitamin D is lacking in the blood. When a T cell is exposed to a foreign pathogen, it extends a signaling device or 'antenna' known as a vitamin D receptor, with which it searches for vitamin D, said Carsten Geisler of Copenhagen University's department of international health, immunology and microbiology, who led the study. This means the T cell must have vitamin D or activation of the cell will cease. If the T cells cannot find enough vitamin D in the blood, they won't even begin to mobilize. - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSIonic Silver is a Good Wood Preservative
The description of the mechanism of antimicrobial action appears to be very good. Dan The mechanisms of the antimicrobial action of silver can be described as follows (17): 1. Silver ions form insoluble compounds in the cell wall with (and thereby inactivate) sulfhydryl groups, which are essential components of enzymes responsible for transmembranous energy metabolism and electrolyte transport. The result is a loss of fluids and electrolytes from the organisms, which dry out and die. 2. Silver ions block the respiratory chain of bacteria in the cytochrome oxidase and NADH-succinate- dehydroginase region. 3. Silver ions enter the cell and bind to bacterial DNA and bacterial spores. Silver can complex with electron donor groups that contain oxygen or nitrogen. Reversible binding of bases occurs without aggregation or disruption of the double helix structure of the cell nucleus. Intercalation of silver can lead to increased stability of the double helix. 4. Silver ions in low concentrations may penetrate a bacterial cell and cause structural damage to the cell envelope. Upon entering the cell, the molecule may dissociate, after which the silver binds to the DNA. 5. Metal ions, particularly silver, can also bond to phosphate groups, forming a positive dipole on the phosphate, followed by formation of a cyclic phosphate and cleavage of these molecules at the phosphodiester bond. 6. Silver DNA complexes occur at bases, which cause denaturation by displacing hydrogen bonds between adjacent nitrogens of purines and pyrimidines, thereby preventing replication. Note that all these mechanisms relate to solvated silver ions, Ag+. The antibacterial properties of any metal come from its ions, which are generated from the neutral metal (1 5). In the presence of oxygen, metallic silver can be bactericidal because silver (I) oxide is soluble enough to release free silver ions (18). When dealing with metallic silver, though, it is important to note that antimicrobial activity depends on the extent of the active silver surface On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: For those who may be interested, ionic silver is a good wood preservative. However it will cause some discoloring. For info see: An Investigation into the Potential of Ionic Silver as a Wood Preservative http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf2004/fpl_2004_dorau001.pdf - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSilver Meter
[Any comments on this is appreciated]
-Sure, here's my thoughts on the subject...
[...basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT.]
-That'd be their way of saying there isn't a meter 'off the shelf' that is
specifically designed to measure EIS {without actually saying it!} cos to my
knowledge...there isn't. Meters used for EIS purposes are...'guesswork using a
measuring instrument'.
I got three meters and none of them are 'accurate?', but they get me in the
ballpark, which is only where I need to be. I know from laboratory analysis
that I got more *total* silver content than all my meters show, but the meters
fool me into determining *roughly* what silver content I have and that's all I
need to know g.
My question would be...How 'accurate' do you wanna be, or *need* to be?
Without laboratory analysis meters are only going to get you *in* the ballpark,
*you'll* have to pick the seat you think is the *best* seat once you get *in*
{using all that information about meters, calculations etc etc available in the
public domain}.
N.
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:40:56 -0800
From: gajo...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSilver Meter
Hello,
I'm looking for any thoughts on meters to check the ppm. Someone told me you
needed the Hanna PWT that costs about $60. I found a Hanna Primo for half
that. The fellow that told me about the PWT says he checked the Primo and it
wasn't accurate. I contacted the company that sold it to me and they said it
basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT. I would like to be
able to be fairly certain what ppm I'm making. Any comments on this is
appreciated.
-ThanksGary
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Re: CSGMO
Now there's a thought... Dan On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:29 AM, slickpic...@cox.net wrote: Vote in 2010! Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote: = Leo, Wow... the nazis/fascists are in control there too. This must be opposed and stopped... they are on a program of eugenics to depopulate the globe. These people are insane and dangerous. I don't know what we can do as ordinary citizens, but their ruthless evil programs must be stopped at all costs. - Original Message - From: Leo Regehr To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:31 AM Subject: CSGMO Here is why the Canadian govt. is getting away with GM foods. Most all = farm organizations, even organic organizations, rely heavily on = government for recognition, public awareness, trade missions, testing, = marketing, grants, subsidies, etc. To oppose the government then, is to = threaten one's own financial life. For this reason, farm organizations = have special persons designated as government liaison people - to keep = the money coming. So in Canada, when the Conservative government defeated a private = members' bill to require GMO labels on imported foods, not one organic = producers association objected. Not one. And one provincial organic = producer organization (which relies heavily on federal program support) = is headed by the campaign manager for a sitting rural MP (who voted with = his government). One Ontario Indian band was told by the Canadian = government, it would lose all their grant money if it allowed a debate = on vaccines to proceed. The band dutifully cancelled the debate. It can = be no different in the U.S. Get the picture? Leo -= --- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Meter
Thank you. I will use the information I got from the man who schooled me on
making EIS and just go with the amount of time. Ballpark is good for me.
From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 7:38:27 PM
Subject: RE: CSSilver Meter
[Any comments on this is appreciated]
-Sure, here's my thoughts on the subject...
[...basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT.]
-That'd be their way of saying there isn't a meter 'off the shelf' that is
specifically designed to measure EIS {without actually saying it!} cos to my
knowledge...there isn't. Meters used for EIS purposes are...'guesswork using a
measuring instrument'.
I got three meters and none of them are 'accurate?', but they get me in the
ballpark, which is only where I need to be. I know from laboratory analysis
that I got more *total* silver content than all my meters show, but the meters
fool me into determining *roughly* what silver content I have and that's all I
need to know g.
My question would be...How 'accurate' do you wanna be, or *need* to be?
Without laboratory analysis meters are only going to get you *in* the ballpark,
*you'll* have to pick the seat you think is the *best* seat once you get *in*
{using all that information about meters, calculations etc etc available in the
public domain}.
N.
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:40:56 -0800
From: gajo...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSilver Meter
Hello,
I'm looking for any thoughts on meters to check the ppm. Someone told me you
needed the Hanna PWT that costs about $60. I found a Hanna Primo for half
that. The fellow that told me about the PWT says he checked the Primo and it
wasn't accurate. I contacted the company that sold it to me and they said it
basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT. I would like to be
able to be fairly certain what ppm I'm making. Any comments on this is
appreciated.
-Thanks Gary
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Re: CSUpdate on Greg Caton/ altcancer.com
Leslie, All, The most helpful letters would come from those who have direct experience with the company and/or its products. However, even those who do not have such experience review the link below, formulate personal opinions about the matter, and let the judge know.There's one reference letter linked below which might be a good template. On Monday, Mar 8, 2010, at 12:34 Asia/Tokyo, Leslie wrote: Can you give me an idea of what to write? I'll be glad to help by writing. Leslie - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp To: Silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 8:56 PM Subject: CSUpdate on Greg Caton/ altcancer.com Here is a link to a call for letters: http://doityourself-health.com/i/Free-Greg-Caton-from-FDA-tyranny- your- help-needed/ The court hearing is on March 17th so there is not much time. I have from Mr. Caton's wife an address directly to the judge: Judge Tucker L Melancon US District Court 800 Lafayette St., Suite 4700 Lafayette, LA 70501 Please pass on the information. NB the request for polite, intelligent correspondence focused on Greg Caton's products and educational information. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Borax Aldi
An animal feed store might have it in bulk - I buy 25 kg at a time of Borax decahydrate (from Turkey), Epsom Salts, and Sodium Bicarbonate. They are safer to use than normal detergents as per Hulda Clark's writings. Otherwise in small quantities - yes, supermarket laundry section as a water softener. Rowena (Australia) I'm ordering borax off the internet, since I have no idea where to buy it elsewhere, in Germany, -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!!
Product number, 010267. Product name, /BORAX Decahydrate/ AR. Quantity, 500gm. Supplier, Gentaur *...* Gentaur /Deutschland/, +32 (0) 16 58 90 45 etc etc If you do a search on borax decahydrate deutschland you will be overwhelmed with sources Rowena On 9/03/2010 2:55 AM, Golden Aldi wrote: I'm ordering borax off the internet,
CShelp for hearing loss
Good evening everyone...does anyone have a idea of some kind of drops to help with hearing problems? thanks in advance Debbie
Re: CSCS OT Lung Cancer
Who has some answer on using cs in nebulizers for lung cancer Not using CS, but you might read this = http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/sodium-bicarbonate-treatment.html Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp for hearing loss
May look into homeopathic remedies--I don't know which ones. Maybe lots of wax build up? What about ear candles? Hope this helps.carolgFrom: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.comTo: cs silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Mon, March 8, 2010 8:14:53 PMSubject: CShelp for hearing loss Good evening everyone...does anyone have a idea of some kind of drops to help with hearing problems? thanks in advance Debbie
Re: CSarchive question
Mike, awesome job on the archives! Thank you Alan, You write: But I have a question, this seems like a bug. When I'm viewing a message in the archives, at the top of the page there's a Date link and a Thread link. I was expecting that when I click Date, for example, that I'd go to a page showing posts sorted by date, but the date context would include the previously viewed post. For example, I was just looking at an email from Nov 1999; when I click Date I expected to see more emails in that timeframe, instead it went to the most recent posts. Not a bug so much as a limitation. The date and thread indexes are limited to the most recent 3000 or so posts. I believe this is to keep the generation of index pages from bogging down due to the size of the index file... (My speculation based on what has been said by the owners at various times in my working with them.) When you're looking at that post from 1999, there are links to next/last post by date/thread plus at least a partial list of the other posts in the thread, near the bottom of the page. All of those work as expected; it's just that there isn't a date or thread index page for that time. One of my hopes is to either bring the archiving in-house or else build a local date/thread index file from their database so we can have a complete set of indices for navigation. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPopSci Archives
All, 137 years of Popular Science magazines are now available free to browse through. There are a number of interesting articles about Tesla and Tesla Coils at this URL: http://www.popsci.com/results?query=Tesla . Lots of other fascinating reading. And the old ads are fun as well. --Steve Y.
Re: CScolor change dog's paws and legs, would like opinions on how CS could cause it?
Marshall Dudley wrote: This likely the only area that gets any sunlight, with the fur so short, and maybe white. So if argyria were to develop, that is the place to expect it. Marshall Hi Marshall, Would you expect argryia to develop in a time period of one month, or to reverse after a period of weeks? Why would this be so different in time scale between humans and a dog? thanks, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Actually, I have just read further damning indictments on DMSO. Any comments anyone? dee Dee, I have used DMSO for around 6 or 7 years now, and have never seen any adverse effects from it. As to herpes, my husband has put in on cold sores (mixed with CS) and after a few treatments, he hasn't had an outbreak in years. I have seen it stop a cold sore on him in 3 days. Like CS, DMSO is a core item in my self-care medicine chest and I will not be without it because it is such a valuable adjunct to CS. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Meter
Hi Gary,
I'm interested in how you make your EIS? Just for interests sake and so
that your questions can be answered here.
Are you using one of the regular machines on the market or a 'home made
one ?
Does the device have constant current control? and
Are you using distilled water?
OK,
Tony
On 8 Mar 2010 at 16:42, GARY ABEL wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSSilver Meter
Thank you. I will use the information I got from the man who schooled me
on making EIS and just go with the amount of time. Ballpark is good for
me.
From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 7:38:27 PM
Subject: RE: CSSilver Meter
[Any comments on this is appreciated]
-Sure, here's my thoughts on the subject...
[...basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT.]
-That'd be their way of saying there isn't a meter 'off the shelf' that
is specifically designed to measure EIS {without actually saying it!} cos
to my knowledge...there isn't. Meters used for EIS purposes
are...'guesswork using a measuring instrument'. I got three meters and
none of them are 'accurate?', but they get me in the ballpark, which is
only where I need to be. I know from laboratory analysis that I got more
*total* silver content than all my meters show, but the meters fool me
into determining *roughly* what silver content I have and that's all I
need to know g. My question would be...How 'accurate' do you wanna be,
or *need* to be? Without laboratory analysis meters are only going to
get you *in* the ballpark, *you'll* have to pick the seat you think is the
*best* seat once you get *in* {using all that information about meters,
calculations etc etc available in the public domain}.
N.
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:40:56 -0800
From: gajo...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSilver Meter
Hello,
I'm looking for any thoughts on meters to check the ppm. Someone told me
you needed the Hanna PWT that costs about $60. I found a Hanna Primo for
half that. The fellow that told me about the PWT says he checked the
Primo and it wasn't accurate. I contacted the company that sold it to me
and they said it basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT.
I would like to be able to be fairly certain what ppm I'm making. Any
comments on this is appreciated.
-Thanks Gary
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