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- Original Message - From: Kathy Tankersley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 7:31 AM Subject: Re: CSasthma THere is alot of info on the internet, (a couple of peole have sent the info) also the book 'Breathing Free' by Theresa Hale, is what I ordered and got me started. The book is about .98 cents but you have to pay the postage. Let me know how you do! Good Luck, Kathy - Original Message - From: Jimmie Cairn To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 10:40 PM Subject: Re: CSasthma Hi There; I am 80. A life long asthma victim. Never heard of this program but would like to know how to get information on it. I tried the link, but got nothing in US. Only information on Australia. Are there no technicians who use this in the US? Please, any information would be greatly appreciated. My Thanks Jimmie -- From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, July 31, 2011 5:14:15 PM Subject: CSasthma Back in March of this year I started the Buyeko breathing method for my asthma. I am much better, with a big difference the first week. I went off steroids, I was using my albuterol mist machine 4 times a day, the rescue inhaler, 4-5 times a day, Advair, singular.I haven't used the albuterol mist machine for some time, the rescue inhaler maybe 1 every day or two, I still take advair and singular, but am looking to get off the advair hopefully. I'm much much better, still cannot run a race, but I can take walks, and work in my flowers, and do my housework. I'm 73 and thankfull for eveery breath I take. What I'm wanting to know is: Is there anyone else that has had an experience with this method? I'd like to hear from you. Kathy
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- Original Message - From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 7:04 AM Subject: Re: CSasthma Thanks for the info, and all the answers, I tried to nebulize silver, it seemed to make it harder for me to breathe, however, a swig a day kept me out of the hospital this past winter, I had asthma, but no lung infection which is unusual. I will check into the other suggestions, I'm taking gobs of vitamins (have for years), I've tried CS as a cure and it seems to work for me best as a preventative, I've tried numerous other things. ...So far the Buteyko breathing is helping the most. I got a book off of ebay or Amazon, the book is really cheap, its called 'Breathing Free' by Teresa Hale.If you are going to try this, this book is a good and very inexpensive way to start. I'[m still looking for someone that has done the breathing method, would like to compare with how it is working with theirs and mine. Kathy - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 5:28 PM Subject: Re: CSasthma Sorry, I have not heard of this, but am glad it is helping you. Those improvements are quite impressive for breathing exercises. I would still encourage you to pursue things that could potentially remove a root cause of the asthma, as opposed to manage. Nebulized colloidal silver, liposomal colostrum, food allergy elimination, and liposomal glutathione would be my suggestions. I used to take albuterol, advair, and singulair...not entirely sure how I got off of them, but I did...must have partially outgrown it or something. ~David On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com wrote: Back in March of this year I started the Buyeko breathing method for my asthma. I am much better, with a big difference the first week. I went off steroids, I was using my albuterol mist machine 4 times a day, the rescue inhaler, 4-5 times a day, Advair, singular.I haven't used the albuterol mist machine for some time, the rescue inhaler maybe 1 every day or two, I still take advair and singular, but am looking to get off the advair hopefully. I'm much much better, still cannot run a race, but I can take walks, and work in my flowers, and do my housework. I'm 73 and thankfull for eveery breath I take. What I'm wanting to know is: Is there anyone else that has had an experience with this method? I'd like to hear from you. Kathy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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THe book that explains the Buteyko breathing method for asthma is: Breathing Free by Teresa Hale, you can get it off ebay or amazon, cost about.99cents plus postage.KathyGood Luck
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Thanks for the info, and all the answers, I tried to nebulize silver, it seemed to make it harder for me to breathe, however, a swig a day kept me out of the hospital this past winter, I had asthma, but no lung infection which is unusual. I will check into the other suggestions, I'm taking gobs of vitamins (have for years), I've tried CS as a cure and it seems to work for me best as a preventative, I've tried numerous other things....So far the Buteyko breathing is helping the most. I got a book off of ebay or Amazon, the book is really cheap, its called 'Breathing Free' by Teresa Hale.If you are going to try this, this book is a good and very inexpensive way to start. I'[m still looking for someone that has done the breathing method, would like to compare with how it is working with theirs and mine. Kathy - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 5:28 PM Subject: Re: CSasthma Sorry, I have not heard of this, but am glad it is helping you. Those improvements are quite impressive for breathing exercises. I would still encourage you to pursue things that could potentially remove a root cause of the asthma, as opposed to manage. Nebulized colloidal silver, liposomal colostrum, food allergy elimination, and liposomal glutathione would be my suggestions. I used to take albuterol, advair, and singulair...not entirely sure how I got off of them, but I did...must have partially outgrown it or something. ~David On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com wrote: Back in March of this year I started the Buyeko breathing method for my asthma. I am much better, with a big difference the first week. I went off steroids, I was using my albuterol mist machine 4 times a day, the rescue inhaler, 4-5 times a day, Advair, singular.I haven't used the albuterol mist machine for some time, the rescue inhaler maybe 1 every day or two, I still take advair and singular, but am looking to get off the advair hopefully. I'm much much better, still cannot run a race, but I can take walks, and work in my flowers, and do my housework. I'm 73 and thankfull for eveery breath I take. What I'm wanting to know is: Is there anyone else that has had an experience with this method? I'd like to hear from you. Kathy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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THere is alot of info on the internet, (a couple of peole have sent the info) also the book 'Breathing Free' by Theresa Hale, is what I ordered and got me started. The book is about .98 cents but you have to pay the postage. Let me know how you do! Good Luck, Kathy - Original Message - From: Jimmie Cairn To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 10:40 PM Subject: Re: CSasthma Hi There; I am 80. A life long asthma victim. Never heard of this program but would like to know how to get information on it. I tried the link, but got nothing in US. Only information on Australia. Are there no technicians who use this in the US? Please, any information would be greatly appreciated. My Thanks Jimmie -- From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, July 31, 2011 5:14:15 PM Subject: CSasthma Back in March of this year I started the Buyeko breathing method for my asthma. I am much better, with a big difference the first week. I went off steroids, I was using my albuterol mist machine 4 times a day, the rescue inhaler, 4-5 times a day, Advair, singular.I haven't used the albuterol mist machine for some time, the rescue inhaler maybe 1 every day or two, I still take advair and singular, but am looking to get off the advair hopefully. I'm much much better, still cannot run a race, but I can take walks, and work in my flowers, and do my housework. I'm 73 and thankfull for eveery breath I take. What I'm wanting to know is: Is there anyone else that has had an experience with this method? I'd like to hear from you. Kathy
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Another regimen that helped me get over asthma is the simple water cure as outlined in the book at the website by the same name... http://watercure.com/ -Original Message- From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 7:05 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSasthma Thanks for the info, and all the answers, I tried to nebulize silver, it seemed to make it harder for me to breathe, however, a swig a day kept me out of the hospital this past winter, I had asthma, but no lung infection which is unusual. I will check into the other suggestions, I'm taking gobs of vitamins (have for years), I've tried CS as a cure and it seems to work for me best as a preventative, I've tried numerous other things....So far the Buteyko breathing is helping the most. I got a book off of ebay or Amazon, the book is really cheap, its called 'Breathing Free' by Teresa Hale.If you are going to try this, this book is a good and very inexpensive way to start. I'[m still looking for someone that has done the breathing method, would like to compare with how it is working with theirs and mine. Kathy - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 5:28 PM Subject: Re: CSasthma Sorry, I have not heard of this, but am glad it is helping you. Those improvements are quite impressive for breathing exercises. I would still encourage you to pursue things that could potentially remove a root cause of the asthma, as opposed to manage. Nebulized colloidal silver, liposomal colostrum, food allergy elimination, and liposomal glutathione would be my suggestions. I used to take albuterol, advair, and singulair...not entirely sure how I got off of them, but I did...must have partially outgrown it or something. ~David On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com wrote: Back in March of this year I started the Buyeko breathing method for my asthma. I am much better, with a big difference the first week. I went off steroids, I was using my albuterol mist machine 4 times a day, the rescue inhaler, 4-5 times a day, Advair, singular.I haven't used the albuterol mist machine for some time, the rescue inhaler maybe 1 every day or two, I still take advair and singular, but am looking to get off the advair hopefully. I'm much much better, still cannot run a race, but I can take walks, and work in my flowers, and do my housework. I'm 73 and thankfull for eveery breath I take. What I'm wanting to know is: Is there anyone else that has had an experience with this method? I'd like to hear from you. Kathy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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In a message dated 8/1/2011 12:23:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, msad...@msadams.com writes: I would still encourage you to pursue things that could potentially remove a root cause of the asthma, as opposed to manage. Nebulized colloidal silver, liposomal I feel my asthma is caused by GERD acid reflux into my lungs, and tree pollen. Buteyko did not work for me. In fact shallow breathing seemed to worsen Gerd. Deep breathing helps to push the stomach down. My DR found a crusty growth on the top of my ear. I tried to put Black Salve on it but the tape covering it only held on one side of my ear. I left it like that as my wifes family reunion was the next day. My wife saw the tape flapping and pulled it off. There was a hole like someone shot a BB at it. Whatever was there looks like it was gone. I used the salve bought from Quailwood.com who is on this list. I work outside so get a lot of sun on my tree farm. Brickey
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Back in March of this year I started the Buyeko breathing method for my asthma. I am much better, with a big difference the first week. I went off steroids, I was using my albuterol mist machine 4 times a day, the rescue inhaler, 4-5 times a day, Advair, singular.I haven't used the albuterol mist machine for some time, the rescue inhaler maybe 1 every day or two, I still take advair and singular, but am looking to get off the advair hopefully. I'm much much better, still cannot run a race, but I can take walks, and work in my flowers, and do my housework. I'm 73 and thankfull for eveery breath I take. What I'm wanting to know is: Is there anyone else that has had an experience with this method? I'd like to hear from you. Kathy
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Sorry, I have not heard of this, but am glad it is helping you. Those improvements are quite impressive for breathing exercises. I would still encourage you to pursue things that could potentially remove a root cause of the asthma, as opposed to manage. Nebulized colloidal silver, liposomal colostrum, food allergy elimination, and liposomal glutathione would be my suggestions. I used to take albuterol, advair, and singulair...not entirely sure how I got off of them, but I did...must have partially outgrown it or something. ~David On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com wrote: Back in March of this year I started the Buyeko breathing method for my asthma. I am much better, with a big difference the first week. I went off steroids, I was using my albuterol mist machine 4 times a day, the rescue inhaler, 4-5 times a day, Advair, singular.I haven't used the albuterol mist machine for some time, the rescue inhaler maybe 1 every day or two, I still take advair and singular, but am looking to get off the advair hopefully. I'm much much better, still cannot run a race, but I can take walks, and work in my flowers, and do my housework. I'm 73 and thankfull for eveery breath I take. What I'm wanting to know is: Is there anyone else that has had an experience with this method? I'd like to hear from you. Kathy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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The Buteyko method is not to manage your asthma, it is a therapy to heal/cure your asthma and many other health issues as result of wrong breathing. Well worth learning about. 2 freiends of mine were able to do away with the C-pap machine to which they had to hook themselves on to when going to sleep. From my understanding, the Buteyko method is nearly the first port of call in Russia, with the medical system, for those who have been diagnosed with asthma. I have used it myself and my asthma has not returned. Leaving dairy out is often a means of managing, and many of the preventative meds are too to manage. The Buteyko may surprise many. It does much more than prevention or managing. http://www.naturaltherapypages.com.au/exercise_fitness/Buteyko_Breathing_Technique?source=ppcgclid=COrqwZPbrKoCFUyGpAodsQNRXw At 07:58 AM 1/08/2011, you wrote: Sorry, I have not heard of this, but am glad it is helping you. Those improvements are quite impressive for breathing exercises. I would still encourage you to pursue things that could potentially remove a root cause of the asthma, as opposed to manage. Nebulized colloidal silver, liposomal colostrum, food allergy elimination, and liposomal glutathione would be my suggestions. I used to take albuterol, advair, and singulair...not entirely sure how I got off of them, but I did...must have partially outgrown it or something. ~David On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com wrote: Back in March of this year I started the Buyeko breathing method for my asthma. I am much better, with a big difference the first week. I went off steroids, I was using my albuterol mist machine 4 times a day, the rescue inhaler, 4-5 times a day, Advair, singular.I haven't used the albuterol mist machine for some time, the rescue inhaler maybe 1 every day or two, I still take advair and singular, but am looking to get off the advair hopefully. I'm much much better, still cannot run a race, but I can take walks, and work in my flowers, and do my housework. I'm 73 and thankfull for eveery breath I take. What I'm wanting to know is: Is there anyone else that has had an experience with this method? I'd like to hear from you. Kathy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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The link I earlier sent was mostly for instruction sessions in Australia, sorry about this. Here is a search result page for the method.. http://www.google.com.au/search?source=ighl=enrlz==q=buteyko+breathingoq=butenaq=1saqi=g1g-s1g2g-s2g2g-s1g1aql=gs_sm=cgs_upl=11569l14771l0l17498l5l5l0l0l0l0l391l1593l2-2.3l5 At 07:58 AM 1/08/2011, you wrote: Sorry, I have not heard of this, but am glad it is helping you. Those improvements are quite impressive for breathing exercises. I would still encourage you to pursue things that could potentially remove a root cause of the asthma, as opposed to manage. Nebulized colloidal silver, liposomal colostrum, food allergy elimination, and liposomal glutathione would be my suggestions. I used to take albuterol, advair, and singulair...not entirely sure how I got off of them, but I did...must have partially outgrown it -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi, This isn't my personal experience but a friend of mine used Buteyko and got off all her asthma medications and also cleared all allergies. It is a blessing to her. PT From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSasthma Back in March of this year I started the Buyeko breathing method for my asthma. I am much better, with a big difference the first week. I went off steroids, I was using my albuterol mist machine 4 times a day, the rescue inhaler, 4-5 times a day, Advair, singular.I haven't used the albuterol mist machine for some time, the rescue inhaler maybe 1 every day or two, I still take advair and singular, but am looking to get off the advair hopefully. I'm much much better, still cannot run a race, but I can take walks, and work in my flowers, and do my housework. I'm 73 and thankfull for eveery breath I take. What I'm wanting to know is: Is there anyone else that has had an experience with this method? I'd like to hear from you. Kathy _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3800 - Release Date: 07/31/11
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Hi There; I am 80. A life long asthma victim. Never heard of this program but would like to know how to get information on it. I tried the link, but got nothing in US. Only information on Australia. Are there no technicians who use this in the US? Please, any information would be greatly appreciated. My Thanks Jimmie From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, July 31, 2011 5:14:15 PM Subject: CSasthma Back in March of this year I started the Buyeko breathing method for my asthma. I am much better, with a big difference the first week. I went off steroids, I was using my albuterol mist machine 4 times a day, the rescue inhaler, 4-5 times a day, Advair, singular.I haven't used the albuterol mist machine for some time, the rescue inhaler maybe 1 every day or two, I still take advair and singular, but am looking to get off the advair hopefully. I'm much much better, still cannot run a race, but I can take walks, and work in my flowers, and do my housework. I'm 73 and thankfull for eveery breath I take. What I'm wanting to know is: Is there anyone else that has had an experience with this method? I'd like to hear from you. Kathy
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There's some info here = http://www.buteykocenterusa.com/ Smitty On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Jimmie Cairn jimmiechap...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi There; I am 80. A life long asthma victim. Never heard of this program but would like to know how to get information on it. I tried the link, but got nothing in US. Only information on Australia. Are there no technicians who use this in the US? Please, any information would be greatly appreciated. My Thanks Jimmie -- *From:* Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sun, July 31, 2011 5:14:15 PM *Subject:* CSasthma Back in March of this year I started the Buyeko breathing method for my asthma. I am much better, with a big difference the first week. I went off steroids, I was using my albuterol mist machine 4 times a day, the rescue inhaler, 4-5 times a day, Advair, singular.I haven't used the albuterol mist machine for some time, the rescue inhaler maybe 1 every day or two, I still take advair and singular, but am looking to get off the advair hopefully. I'm much much better, still cannot run a race, but I can take walks, and work in my flowers, and do my housework. I'm 73 and thankfull for eveery breath I take. What I'm wanting to know is: Is there anyone else that has had an experience with this method? I'd like to hear from you. Kathy
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Hi Jimmie, Hope this one gives more info for you: http://www.buteyko-usa.com/ At 01:10 PM 1/08/2011, you wrote: Hi There; I am 80. A life long asthma victim. Never heard of this program but would like to know how to get information on it. I tried the link, but got nothing in US. Only information on Australia. Are there no technicians who use this in the US? Please, any information would be greatly appreciated. My Thanks Jimmie From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, July 31, 2011 5:14:15 PM Subject: CSasthma Back in March of this year I started the Buyeko breathing method for my asthma. I am much better, with a big difference the first week. I went off steroids, I was using my albuterol mist machine 4 times a day, the rescue inhaler, 4-5 times a day, Advair, singular.I haven't used the albuterol mist machine for some time, the rescue inhaler maybe 1 every day or two, I still take advair and singular, but am looking to get off the advair hopefully. I'm much much better, still cannot run a race, but I can take walks, and work in my flowers, and do my housework. I'm 73 and thankfull for eveery breath I take. What I'm wanting to know is: Is there anyone else that has had an experience with this method? I'd like to hear from you. Kathy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>
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Some of you may remember when I got out of the hospital last March and was very fustrated with being sick with asthma, getting over loaded with steroids and with the whole thing of not being able to breathe. Some of you wonderful people sent me ideas, suggestions, etc. One of the suggestions (although I tried alot of them) was the Buteyko Breathing Method. Out of desperation, about a month ago, I ordered the book off ebay and began the breathing techniques. I've been doing the breathing techniques about 3 weeks now, and I'm much better! I could tell a big difference in just a week! Since Nov of 2010, till three weeks ago, I had shortness of breath so bad, I couldn't function, I was on prednisone, nebulizer 4 times a day along with the 'rescue' inhaler. My Dr. told me that I am taking all they have to offer. The Buteyko Method has cut my Nebulizer down to 1 time a day with half the solution, rescue inhaler, maybe once a day, and I'm off predisone!I'm thrilled with the results. (I can't run a race) but I'm back to cleaning my house and doing my house work. Anyway, I wanted to say ''thank you' to all of the ones that offered their imput, I always go to the silver list to see what regular people are saying about disease, etc. Thanks again...Kathy
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Kathy - was the method easy to learn? I work with a great many kids with asthma. I often use breathing techniques for anxiety calming/regulation. If I could also incorporate some techniques that would help with the asthma too that would be amazing. Jaxi On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.netwrote: Some of you may remember when I got out of the hospital last March and was very fustrated with being sick with asthma, getting over loaded with steroids and with the whole thing of not being able to breathe. Some of you wonderful people sent me ideas, suggestions, etc. One of the suggestions (although I tried alot of them) was the Buteyko Breathing Method. Out of desperation, about a month ago, I ordered the book off ebay and began the breathing techniques. I've been doing the breathing techniques about 3 weeks now, and I'm much better! I could tell a big difference in just a week! Since Nov of 2010, till three weeks ago, I had shortness of breath so bad, I couldn't function, I was on prednisone, nebulizer 4 times a day along with the 'rescue' inhaler. My Dr. told me that I am taking all they have to offer. The Buteyko Method has cut my Nebulizer down to 1 time a day with half the solution, rescue inhaler, maybe once a day, and I'm off predisone!I'm thrilled with the results. (I can't run a race) but I'm back to cleaning my house and doing my house work. Anyway, I wanted to say ''thank you' to all of the ones that offered their imput, I always go to the silver list to see what regular people are saying about disease, etc. Thanks again...Kathy
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Yes, the method is esy to learn, one of the basic things is to breathe out of your nose, not your mouth, and the method is very easy. to learn. In fact, they say in the book that this can easily be taught to children (I think over 5 years of age). The book I got is 'Breathing Free' by Teresa Hale. Another thing that they teach is, instead of reaching for the 'rescue inhaler', to do the breathing method first, then use the inhaler if still needed. They recommend NOT get rid of any of your medicine, inhalers, etc. I was glad to read that as I am realizing that there is an 'emotional' tie to the inhalers, nebulizers, etc. (At least thats what I've found in my own experience). If I can be of help any further, please write. Kathy - Original Message - From: jaxi To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 1:19 PM Subject: Re: CSasthma Kathy - was the method easy to learn? I work with a great many kids with asthma. I often use breathing techniques for anxiety calming/regulation. If I could also incorporate some techniques that would help with the asthma too that would be amazing. Jaxi On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net wrote: Some of you may remember when I got out of the hospital last March and was very fustrated with being sick with asthma, getting over loaded with steroids and with the whole thing of not being able to breathe. Some of you wonderful people sent me ideas, suggestions, etc. One of the suggestions (although I tried alot of them) was the Buteyko Breathing Method. Out of desperation, about a month ago, I ordered the book off ebay and began the breathing techniques. I've been doing the breathing techniques about 3 weeks now, and I'm much better! I could tell a big difference in just a week! Since Nov of 2010, till three weeks ago, I had shortness of breath so bad, I couldn't function, I was on prednisone, nebulizer 4 times a day along with the 'rescue' inhaler. My Dr. told me that I am taking all they have to offer. The Buteyko Method has cut my Nebulizer down to 1 time a day with half the solution, rescue inhaler, maybe once a day, and I'm off predisone!I'm thrilled with the results. (I can't run a race) but I'm back to cleaning my house and doing my house work. Anyway, I wanted to say ''thank you' to all of the ones that offered their imput, I always go to the silver list to see what regular people are saying about disease, etc. Thanks again...Kathy
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Hi Kathy, I think I'm one of the ones who recommended Buteyko Breathing to you. I knew what it did for a friend. It is a shame that it is not well known in the USA and that doctors keep hurting people with steroids. Within a year my friend was asthma and allergy free. Good luck to you. PT From: Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 1:36:35 PM Subject: CSasthma Some of you may remember when I got out of the hospital last March and was very fustrated with being sick with asthma, getting over loaded with steroids and with the whole thing of not being able to breathe. Some of you wonderful people sent me ideas, suggestions, etc. One of the suggestions (although I tried alot of them) was the Buteyko Breathing Method. Out of desperation, about a month ago, I ordered the book off ebay and began the breathing techniques. I've been doing the breathing techniques about 3 weeks now, and I'm much better! I could tell a big difference in just a week! Since Nov of 2010, till three weeks ago, I had shortness of breath so bad, I couldn't function, I was on prednisone, nebulizer 4 times a day along with the 'rescue' inhaler. My Dr. told me that I am taking all they have to offer. The Buteyko Method has cut my Nebulizer down to 1 time a day with half the solution, rescue inhaler, maybe once a day, and I'm off predisone! I'm thrilled with the results. (I can't run a race) but I'm back to cleaning my house and doing my house work. Anyway, I wanted to say ''thank you' to all of the ones that offered their imput, I always go to the silver list to see what regular people are saying about disease, etc. Thanks again...Kathy
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Jaxi, where can I find out about breathing techniques for specific issues like anxiety? Thanks. PT From: jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 2:19:44 PM Subject: Re: CSasthma Kathy - was the method easy to learn? I work with a great many kids with asthma. I often use breathing techniques for anxiety calming/regulation. If I could also incorporate some techniques that would help with the asthma too that would be amazing. Jaxi On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net wrote: Some of you may remember when I got out of the hospital last March and was very fustrated with being sick with asthma, getting over loaded with steroids and with the whole thing of not being able to breathe. Some of you wonderful people sent me ideas, suggestions, etc. One of the suggestions (although I tried alot of them) was the Buteyko Breathing Method. Out of desperation, about a month ago, I ordered the book off ebay and began the breathing techniques. I've been doing the breathing techniques about 3 weeks now, and I'm much better! I could tell a big difference in just a week! Since Nov of 2010, till three weeks ago, I had shortness of breath so bad, I couldn't function, I was on prednisone, nebulizer 4 times a day along with the 'rescue' inhaler. My Dr. told me that I am taking all they have to offer. The Buteyko Method has cut my Nebulizer down to 1 time a day with half the solution, rescue inhaler, maybe once a day, and I'm off predisone! I'm thrilled with the results. (I can't run a race) but I'm back to cleaning my house and doing my house work. Anyway, I wanted to say ''thank you' to all of the ones that offered their imput, I always go to the silver list to see what regular people are saying about disease, etc. Thanks again...Kathy
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Vitamin D takes care of asthma in many people. Try this link for lots of research: http://www.google.com/#hl=enei=pErDS5X6IsP48AbRt7G9DQsa=Xoi=spellfullpageresnum=0ct=resultcd=2ved=0CAoQvwUoAQq=asthma+vitamin+dspell=1fp=caec63d5ff72707a Marshall Kathryn Clayton wrote: http://www.sinuses.com/fungal.htm Here is some good reading - the same researcher that demonstrated this also demonstrated later the connection with asthma- fungal issues in the lungs. Many people find asthma relief from taking antifungals. Many people find that they have to change their entire diet to a fresh, whole food diet high in veggies, and other stuff to detox the mold toxins- the info is findable by googling things like candida(a type of fungus/yeast), anti mold diets, etc. Good luck. kathryn On Mar 29, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Kathy Tankersley wrote: I am at my wits end with this asthma, I just got out of the hospital after receiving massive doses of steroids, high powered anti-botics. There is got to be a better way: Is there anyone on the list that has 'lived' thur ths and had any progress with CS or any other herb, etc.? I am ready to drink poison if it would help. If you have had any experience with what I am describing, please help. Thanks, Kathy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Eh? dee On 4 Apr 2010, at 00:39, Leo Regehr wrote: - Original Message - From: Kathy Tankersley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 7:52 AM Subject: Re: CSasthma Golly, I guess I have alot to learn, I ordered the book by Jim Humble on the same day I got your email. Now, I am afraid to go ahead with it in any form. Seems like I'm back to square one. Thanks for the infoKathy - Original Message - From: poast To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 4:25 PM Subject: Re: CSasthma Hello Kathy, Chlorine dioxide is a respiratory irritant. People who are exposed to it developed asthma like symptoms. I am not sure if it behaves the same from the inside out, but I would advise extreme caution should you actually decide to take this route. Tom - Original Message - From: Kathy Tankersley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:37 AM Subject: CSasthma I want thank all you wonderful caring people for answering my plea for help with asthma, each hint/tip I am researching. I'm really leaning toward MMS as a start, does anyone have a comment on this?Thanks you so much for your help, ...Kathy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Golly, I guess I have alot to learn, I ordered the book by Jim Humble on the same day I got your email. Now, I am afraid to go ahead with it in any form. Seems like I'm back to square one. Thanks for the infoKathy - Original Message - From: poast To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 4:25 PM Subject: Re: CSasthma Hello Kathy, Chlorine dioxide is a respiratory irritant. People who are exposed to it developed asthma like symptoms. I am not sure if it behaves the same from the inside out, but I would advise extreme caution should you actually decide to take this route. Tom - Original Message - From: Kathy Tankersley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:37 AM Subject: CSasthma I want thank all you wonderful caring people for answering my plea for help with asthma, each hint/tip I am researching. I'm really leaning toward MMS as a start, does anyone have a comment on this?Thanks you so much for your help, ...Kathy
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I think you will be fine Kathy (you sound like me!) just read the book and then start slowly. I think some people go too fast but if you start slow you should be fine. It has been a great help to some people I know, but you have to treat it with respect like a lot of things. dee On 3 Apr 2010, at 14:52, Kathy Tankersley wrote: Golly, I guess I have alot to learn, I ordered the book by Jim Humble on the same day I got your email. Now, I am afraid to go ahead with it in any form. Seems like I'm back to square one. Thanks for the infoKathy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Jim Humble is the authority here. Read his works On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote: I think you will be fine Kathy (you sound like me!) just read the book and then start slowly. I think some people go too fast but if you start slow you should be fine. It has been a great help to some people I know, but you have to treat it with respect like a lot of things. dee On 3 Apr 2010, at 14:52, Kathy Tankersley wrote: Golly, I guess I have alot to learn, I ordered the book by Jim Humble on the same day I got your email. Now, I am afraid to go ahead with it in any form. Seems like I'm back to square one. Thanks for the infoKathy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
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- Original Message - From: Kathy Tankersley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 7:52 AM Subject: Re: CSasthma Golly, I guess I have alot to learn, I ordered the book by Jim Humble on the same day I got your email. Now, I am afraid to go ahead with it in any form. Seems like I'm back to square one. Thanks for the infoKathy - Original Message - From: poast To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 4:25 PM Subject: Re: CSasthma Hello Kathy, Chlorine dioxide is a respiratory irritant. People who are exposed to it developed asthma like symptoms. I am not sure if it behaves the same from the inside out, but I would advise extreme caution should you actually decide to take this route. Tom - Original Message - From: Kathy Tankersley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:37 AM Subject: CSasthma I want thank all you wonderful caring people for answering my plea for help with asthma, each hint/tip I am researching. I'm really leaning toward MMS as a start, does anyone have a comment on this?Thanks you so much for your help, ...Kathy
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Hello Kathy, Chlorine dioxide is a respiratory irritant. People who are exposed to it developed asthma like symptoms. I am not sure if it behaves the same from the inside out, but I would advise extreme caution should you actually decide to take this route. Tom - Original Message - From: Kathy Tankersley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:37 AM Subject: CSasthma I want thank all you wonderful caring people for answering my plea for help with asthma, each hint/tip I am researching. I'm really leaning toward MMS as a start, does anyone have a comment on this?Thanks you so much for your help, ...Kathy
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, a significant decrease in the use of rescue beta-agonist inhalers was demonstrated (Bede O et al 2003). These results suggest that intracellular magnesium levels are associated with the severity of asthma and the frequency of asthma attacks. Maintaining normal magnesium levels appears to be an important component of asthma therapy. From: Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 12:01:19 PM Subject: CSasthma I am at my wits end with this asthma, I just got out of the hospital after receiving massive doses of steroids, high powered anti-botics. There is got to be a better way: Is there anyone on the list that has 'lived' thur ths and had any progress with CS or any other herb, etc.? I am ready to drink poison if it would help. If you have had any experience with what I am describing, please help. Thanks, Kathy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I want thank all you wonderful caring people for answering my plea for help with asthma, each hint/tip I am researching. I'm really leaning toward MMS as a start, does anyone have a comment on this?Thanks you so much for your help, ...Kathy
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Keep in mind that MMS is oxidative. You want to counter the effects with anti-oxidants. I hear people warn about taking mms too close to C, etc, but I think both are equally important, and that the mms does its thing in a short time(like in the first hour, although effects may continue) so if mms were to be done long term, there is no problem with juggling the two, unless you're not getting results you want; then you have to increase or decrease, depending. From: Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 11:37:36 AM Subject: CSasthma I want thank all you wonderful caring people for answering my plea for help with asthma, each hint/tip I am researching. I'm really leaning toward MMS as a start, does anyone have a comment on this? Thanks you so much for your help, ...Kathy
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I am at my wits end with this asthma, I just got out of the hospital after receiving massive doses of steroids, high powered anti-botics. There is got to be a better way: Is there anyone on the list that has 'lived' thur ths and had any progress with CS or any other herb, etc.? I am ready to drink poison if it would help. If you have had any experience with what I am describing, please help. Thanks, Kathy
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I'm sorry you are having this problem. I have seen asthma respond well to acupuncture, energy work for emotions and there is something called Buteyko Breathing Exercises. You can teach it to yourself. A friend of mine did this and cured herself of asthma and allergies. Like any process, it works if you work it. You can google Buteyko Breathing Exercises and do some research. Good luck, PT - Original Message - From: Kathy Tankersley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:01 PM Subject: CSasthma I am at my wits end with this asthma, I just got out of the hospital after receiving massive doses of steroids, high powered anti-botics. There is got to be a better way: Is there anyone on the list that has 'lived' thur ths and had any progress with CS or any other herb, etc.? I am ready to drink poison if it would help. If you have had any experience with what I am describing, please help. Thanks, Kathy
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I have had asthma since I was a kid. The ONLY thing I have ever found that eliminates it is to get ALL allergens out of my life, one way or another. Taking desensitization shots never worked completely, but did work some. But the only foolproof thing for me has always been avoidance. But allergies are just one of several possible causes of asthma. Other possible causes include infections (which CS certainly ought to help with -- drink CS and also inhale CS spray from a nebulizer or sprayer), cold air (avoid it or at least take it easy until your asthma gets better), exercise (avoid it or at least take it easy until the asthma gets better), and stress (get it out of your life, both the stressors and your reaction to stress). And of course several of those causes can add together if they are all present at the same time, so think about getting rid of all of them. There may be other causes. There may be other cures. I too would love to hear more about the subject. Dick From: Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 12:01:19 PM Subject: CSasthma I am at my wits end with this asthma, I just got out of the hospital after receiving massive doses of steroids, high powered anti-botics. There is got to be a better way: Is there anyone on the list that has 'lived' thur ths and had any progress with CS or any other herb, etc.? I am ready to drink poison if it would help. If you have had any experience with what I am describing, please help. Thanks, Kathy
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Cell Food really helped open my lungs. I had bad asthma as a child and it lingered into adulthood. Though I seldom got attacks, it would be very hard for me to breath if I extended myself, or got cold, or the air was really humid. Cell Food took all that away. I could feel a difference in my lungs in just 2 days. samala, Renee www.eamega.com/RPainManageEnt Chronic pain does NOT belong in your body. The Am Wand helps you get rid of it quickly and easily. Get the wand here ---Original Message--- I have had asthma since I was a kid. The ONLY thing I have ever found that eliminates it is to get ALL allergens out of my life, one way or another.
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I think vitamin c deficiency might be involved. I can tell you for sure, that those times that I would do 80,000 mg IV bags of vitamin c in saline solution, I would begin to take very deep breaths. I am a shallow breather unless I focus on improving it, due to smoking for 30 years. http://vitamincfoundation.org might be a good place to look. From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 11:18:51 AM Subject: Re: CSasthma I have had asthma since I was a kid. The ONLY thing I have ever found that eliminates it is to get ALL allergens out of my life, one way or another. Taking desensitization shots never worked completely, but did work some. But the only foolproof thing for me has always been avoidance. But allergies are just one of several possible causes of asthma. Other possible causes include infections (which CS certainly ought to help with -- drink CS and also inhale CS spray from a nebulizer or sprayer), cold air (avoid it or at least take it easy until your asthma gets better), exercise (avoid it or at least take it easy until the asthma gets better), and stress (get it out of your life, both the stressors and your reaction to stress). And of course several of those causes can add together if they are all present at the same time, so think about getting rid of all of them. There may be other causes. There may be other cures. I too would love to hear more about the subject. Dick From: Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 12:01:19 PM Subject: CSasthma I am at my wits end with this asthma, I just got out of the hospital after receiving massive doses of steroids, high powered anti-botics. There is got to be a better way: Is there anyone on the list that has 'lived' thur ths and had any progress with CS or any other herb, etc.? I am ready to drink poison if it would help. If you have had any experience with what I am describing, please help. Thanks, Kathy
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http://www.sinuses.com/fungal.htm Here is some good reading - the same researcher that demonstrated this also demonstrated later the connection with asthma- fungal issues in the lungs. Many people find asthma relief from taking antifungals. Many people find that they have to change their entire diet to a fresh, whole food diet high in veggies, and other stuff to detox the mold toxins- the info is findable by googling things like candida(a type of fungus/yeast), anti mold diets, etc. Good luck. kathryn On Mar 29, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Kathy Tankersley wrote: I am at my wits end with this asthma, I just got out of the hospital after receiving massive doses of steroids, high powered anti-botics. There is got to be a better way: Is there anyone on the list that has 'lived' thur ths and had any progress with CS or any other herb, etc.? I am ready to drink poison if it would help. If you have had any experience with what I am describing, please help. Thanks, Kathy
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Hi Everyone, I'm new here and am interested in hearing from anyone who has successfully (or not) treated their asthma using CS and/or DMSO. I just started nebulizing CS and lobelia extract a few days ago. I'd love to hear what protocols people have tried. Thanks! Lisa Marie _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/
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HI Lisa! I had asthma/copd. Baught a Silver Puppy. Started spraying my throat and nostrils a few times a couple of times a day. Plus 1 shot under my tongue. I had instant success. Then i baught a nebulizer. That seemed to go deaper and more results. Used it a few times. Went to see my Dr. at the VA. He suggested i stop my inhalers! Regards, Larry --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Lisa Knowles n23...@live.com wrote: From: Lisa Knowles n23...@live.com Subject: CSasthma To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:30 AM Hi Everyone, I'm new here and am interested in hearing from anyone who has successfully (or not) treated their asthma using CS and/or DMSO. I just started nebulizing CS and lobelia extract a few days ago. I'd love to hear what protocols people have tried. Thanks! Lisa Marie Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now.
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Thanks for the info Larry. Wow, what great results! I started nebulizing Utopia Naturals Ionic Silver (20 ppm) twice a day a few days ago and it seemed to help at first but today I'm a little worse again. I'm nebulizing about 3 mL twice a day. I can't really see myself making cs at this point in my life. Is your silver ionic or colloidal? How many ppm? What kind of nebulizer did you use? Maybe I should also spray some in my throat and up my nose and take internally. I believe that inflammation from a gall bladder infection caused the breakdown of my health over the last few months. Have adrenal fatigue, too and now asthma. I cleared a systemic fungal infection last year with cs, but it had no effect on the gall bladder infection, finally had to have surgery. Best, Lisa Marie Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:57:12 -0800 From: lbig...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CSasthma To: silver-list@eskimo.com HI Lisa! I had asthma/copd. Baught a Silver Puppy. Started spraying my throat and nostrils a few times a couple of times a day. Plus 1 shot under my tongue. I had instant success. Then i baught a nebulizer. That seemed to go deaper and more results. Used it a few times. Went to see my Dr. at the VA. He suggested i stop my inhalers! Regards, Larry --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Lisa Knowles n23...@live.com wrote: From: Lisa Knowles n23...@live.com Subject: CSasthma To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:30 AM Hi Everyone, I'm new here and am interested in hearing from anyone who has successfully (or not) treated their asthma using CS and/or DMSO. I just started nebulizing CS and lobelia extract a few days ago. I'd love to hear what protocols people have tried. Thanks! Lisa Marie Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/
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Our CS is very good for asthma, but I am hoping you will look into iodine as it has proven to be as great a panacea as CS. Dr. David Derry has some interesting experiences with this. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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How do you know that?? In a message dated 12/30/2009 3:09:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, clay...@skypoint.com writes: When I get a little asthma, I drink a bit of cs and that usually gets rid of it. Lots of asthma is caused by fungal infections. On Dec 24, 2009, at 10:05 AM, _kmartjo...@aol.com_ (mailto:kmartjo...@aol.com) wrote: How many people are taking cs for asthma and how are you taking it ? What success are you having
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there is some research... back in the 90's, but the docs seem to have ignored it. I found it when I was researching allergic fungal sinusitis- there was a doc at Mayo that did the research and found out that many of the patients that had sinus surgery had fungal infections that had invaded the bone/cartilage they had taken out. He then used antifungals for the sinusitis, which works pretty well. After returning to Germany he continued the practice with his patients there, and discovered that those that also had asthma, had it clear up using the antifungals. He went on to do more research into the fungal cause of asthma. But the real way I know it is because the diflucan got rid of my asthma, when I coincidentally was having trouble breathing on the day I took it. Now I use the cs, and it works very well. Kathryn On Dec 31, 2009, at 6:30 AM, kmartjo...@aol.com wrote: How do you know that?? In a message dated 12/30/2009 3:09:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, clay...@skypoint.com writes: When I get a little asthma, I drink a bit of cs and that usually gets rid of it. Lots of asthma is caused by fungal infections. On Dec 24, 2009, at 10:05 AM, kmartjo...@aol.com wrote: How many people are taking cs for asthma and how are you taking it ? What success are you having
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When I get a little asthma, I drink a bit of cs and that usually gets rid of it. Lots of asthma is caused by fungal infections. On Dec 24, 2009, at 10:05 AM, kmartjo...@aol.com wrote: How many people are taking cs for asthma and how are you taking it ? What success are you having
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Shirley, Great site! I have a 96 yr old friend who was visited by a home care nurse, the nurse was immediately alarmed by the "looks" of her and immediately hustled her into her car and drove another 30 minutes to a differant hospital to have her thyroid tested. She was so low the doctor was very concerned. I must note that she was constantly being tested here in this town near our own hospital, about 10 minutes away, by her doctor and always came up negative. -- Original message from Shirley Reed pj20fl...@gmail.com: -- If you do a google on "dr. derry""iodine" you may find that his asthma patients had good success with thyroid supplements, which makes one think that iodine supplementation, which allows the thyroid gland to function much better, just might decrease asthma as well. Like CS, iodine seems to help everything. pj
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For the last 5 - 6 (maybe longer) years of my Aunt's life, I controlled her asthma with CS daily - not much maybe 2 - 3 shots (ounces) over the course of the day. Morning, noon and just before retiring - 1 oz each time. She died when she was 94 9/10's... almost 95 - had asthma since she was 25. I controlled her atrial fibrillation with 200 mg of CoQ10. I used Dr. John Christopher's Hawthorn Berry Heart Syrup to control her congestive heart failure - it worked amazingly well - until she ended up in the hospital and I couldn't get it to her in time She took several other supplements daily, too. In the end, she had lung cancer, too, caused by 70 years of Prednisone use, I think - or one of the other druggie inhalers she used for 70 years. She didn't smoke ciggies, so... John On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM, kmartjo...@aol.com wrote: How many people are taking cs for asthma and how are you taking it ? What success are you having -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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If you do a google on dr. derryiodine you may find that his asthma patients had good success with thyroid supplements, which makes one think that iodine supplementation, which allows the thyroid gland to function much better, just might decrease asthma as well. Like CS, iodine seems to help everything. pj
CSAsthma, CS and drugs
Hi folks, I have met someone who has a child who is on steroid's for asthma. They have a nebulizer. What are the rules for giving someone cs when they are on different kinds of drugs and inhalers? Is it okay to take cs when someone is on medications? Thanks much in advance, debbie
RE: CSAsthma, CS and drugs: Is there an asthma cure?
I gave my daughter alternating treatments with CS and the asthma steroids and broncodilators and she did fine. However, I would like to know if anyone has thoughts on this as well - whether it's really ok to do that or not! My daughter ended up in the hospital again Wednesday night because she was in so much pain from breathing. We got home Friday afternoon. I hate taking her to the hospital for an asthma attack! If anyone knows a cure, please let me know! She's only 3 years old and has had 8 asthma attacks in the last 14 months, 4 of which sent her to the hospital. She doesn't need an inhaler daily - she has acute severe attacks caused by triggers (dogs and fall/spring pollens seem to be the big ones). My husband and I are very much tired of this and want to fix the underlying problem! I give her Vit C, B-complex, D3 and CS daily, but I know it can take (seemingly) forever for supplements to work. I saw the posts on enzymes and am wondering if that would be ok to give to a 3 year old. I'd appreciate anyone's input on this! I just want to stop these asthma attacks! Gina _ From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:14 AM To: cs Subject: CSAsthma, CS and drugs Hi folks, I have met someone who has a child who is on steroid's for asthma. They have a nebulizer. What are the rules for giving someone cs when they are on different kinds of drugs and inhalers? Is it okay to take cs when someone is on medications? Thanks much in advance, debbie
Re: CSAsthma, CS and drugs: Is there an asthma cure?
Hi Gina, have you looked at Doctor Wongs website, or Enzyme.stuff ? There is a mile of information on these sites and also links to other sites as well. Good luck. dee On 15 Nov 2009, at 16:42, Gina Moore wrote: I gave my daughter alternating treatments with CS and the asthma steroids and broncodilators and she did fine. However, I would like to know if anyone has thoughts on this as well – whether it’s really ok to do that or not! My daughter ended up in the hospital again Wednesday night because she was in so much pain from breathing. We got home Friday afternoon. I hate taking her to the hospital for an asthma attack! If anyone knows a cure, please let me know! She’s only 3 years old and has had 8 asthma attacks in the last 14 months, 4 of which sent her to the hospital. She doesn’t need an inhaler daily – she has acute severe attacks caused by triggers (dogs and fall/spring pollens seem to be the big ones). My husband and I are very much tired of this and want to fix the underlying problem! I give her Vit C, B-complex, D3 and CS daily, but I know it can take (seemingly) forever for supplements to work. I saw the posts on enzymes and am wondering if that would be ok to give to a 3 year old. I’d appreciate anyone’s input on this! I just want to stop these asthma attacks! Gina
RE: CSAsthma, CS and drugs: Is there an asthma cure?
Personally, I might do bothbut use a different cup on the nebulizer for CS ..many children grow out of asthma..I have known severalwith meds being used to assist this. There is so much to trigger in our homes and our enviroment...I believe that is why more are having asthma..but can out grow it as they body overcomes the triggers. I have used CS in an nebulizer for a small child and saw remarkable results.(as well as for diaper rash). The child continued her meds as the doc wanted..but CS was used when breathing seemed difficult. .as well has I have used it on myself...I do not have asthma...but I have used it to counter allergy issues. I have also used it on my dog(nebulizer with CS)..who got into mold and affected her lungs and respitory system.. It is just what you are comfortable to do...how much do you want to do meds or how much do you want to try CS in the nebulizer...or do both. There is natural anti inflamitories that can be used to counter the inflamation of the respector system. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me From: vegasmom...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSAsthma, CS and drugs: Is there an asthma cure? Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:42:04 -0800 I gave my daughter alternating treatments with CS and the asthma steroids and broncodilators and she did fine. However, I would like to know if anyone has thoughts on this as well – whether it’s really ok to do that or not! My daughter ended up in the hospital again Wednesday night because she was in so much pain from breathing. We got home Friday afternoon. I hate taking her to the hospital for an asthma attack! If anyone knows a cure, please let me know! She’s only 3 years old and has had 8 asthma attacks in the last 14 months, 4 of which sent her to the hospital. She doesn’t need an inhaler daily – she has acute severe attacks caused by triggers (dogs and fall/spring pollens seem to be the big ones). My husband and I are very much tired of this and want to fix the underlying problem! I give her Vit C, B-complex, D3 and CS daily, but I know it can take (seemingly) forever for supplements to work. I saw the posts on enzymes and am wondering if that would be ok to give to a 3 year old. I’d appreciate anyone’s input on this! I just want to stop these asthma attacks! Gina From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:14 AM To: cs Subject: CSAsthma, CS and drugs Hi folks, I have met someone who has a child who is on steroid's for asthma. They have a nebulizer. What are the rules for giving someone cs when they are on different kinds of drugs and inhalers? Is it okay to take cs when someone is on medications? Thanks much in advance, debbie
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According to Dr. David Derry, Lugol's iodine taken internally will usually to always result in great improvement in asthma symptoms. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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[I tried to reply to this thread a few days ago, but it never showed up in my email. Sorry if you guys get this twice (or three times)!] I will chime in on the steroid thing, only because I've been researching it for over a year. Yes, steroids in the doses that were studied are dangerous for long term use - they used very high doses. But your body makes many steroids and if you replace just what your body would normally be making, then there is no fear of immune suppression, stunted growth or any other of the 'bad' side effects. Estrogen, Testosterone, Progesterone, Aldosterone, DHEA, and Cortisol are all steroid hormones that your body makes and needs in appropriate doses! Cortisol is needed for nearly all body functions, and asthma has been linked to low levels of this hormone. I had my husband's, son's and my cortisol levels tested and we were all low. I didn't test my daughter at the time because she was only 2 and wouldn't spit in a tube! But I would assume based on her asthma and a few other things, that her cortisol is low as well. This low cortisol level can be caused by many things, including as you mentioned fungal infections. A year ago I was very scared of steroids, like most people are. But with much research I have found that they can be quite safe in the low doses your body would normally make anyway. I've been taking Cortisol (Cortef) for about a year now and I've never felt better. My levels were low, and seeing how cortisol is the only hormone that you would actually die without, it seems appropriate that replacing what your body would normally make would be a good thing! When under stress, the body is supposed to make what would be considered excess cortisol. This is what is supposed to happen in the short term! Cortisol is a big part of the immune system. The problem lies in the fact that we are under such huge amounts of stress from the foods we eat, to pollution, to EMF's, infections, and on and on, that our bodies don't have a chance to stop the excess cortisol production! Over time, the adrenal glands can't keep up and cortisol prodcution decreases. This is what is considered adrenal fatigue. http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrenal_fatigue.asp is one of the best explainations of this process of high, then low cortisol/adrenal fatigue I have found! I would recommend that everyone read William McK. Jeffries, MD's book 'Safe Uses of Cortisol' to get a good understanding of how cortisol works. You can read exerpts online. (Here's one http://livingnetwork.co.za/hormones/adrenal-fatigue/cortisone/) The book is out of print, but can be purchased at http://www.ccthomas.com/details.cfm?P_ISBN13=9780398075002 for $43.95. You may be able to find it in a library as well, but I'm not sure many would carry it! BTW, my daughter is doing much better. I've alternated the CS and meds (steroids and broncodilators) and she is much better. Still coughing, but she sounds and acts like she feels better! I give her Vitamins - B-complex and C - as well as Sea Salt to strengthen her adrenal glands/immune system. It has lengthened the time between attacks - it used to be every 6 weeks, but it's been 6 months since her last attack! Yea! She doesn't have the type of asthma that she needs an inhaler for. She has allergy induced, acute, severe attacks. Much more interesting to deal with since we never know when it's going to happen! She's had 6 attacks in the last year - like I said initially it was every 6 weeks, but it's now been 6 months since her last one. I'm building her adrenal glands slowly but surely! Since she is young, her body is more likely to respond to just giving it what it needs to make the steroid hormones as opposed to simply just giving her the hormone. Anyway, don't discount the importance of steroids. Just know that low doses that your body would normally make will make you feel better and boost your immune system! I am living proof of that! :-) Gina
CSasthma
Iodine in the form of Lugol's Solution has been proven to be very, very effective for, if not completely curing asthma, then greatly lessening the severity of this condition. See David Derry's comments particularly. Best Wishes, pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAsthma: alternative approach
Curezone has a Asthma forum you should go through. http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=57 Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAsthma: alternative approach
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Re: CSAsthma: alternative approach
Has anyone tried this stufflike what it tastes like or do you get a die off with it...my 75 year old mother and my ten year old grandchild both have asthma. This would be perfect for mom she can't take pillsthanks much debbie ccdirectt ccdire...@yahoo.com wrote: (baobab bark)( Yamoa ).Its trees in Africa thats good for asthma other stuff.Hulda Clark says asthma is caused from parasites. http://www.yamoafactory.com/about.htm http://www.google.com/search?hl=enclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficialhs=MTeq=african+tree+bark+%28asthma%29btnG=Search Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.
Re: CSAsthma: alternative approach/ Duncan
Virginia writes: Eeee...Duncan...have mercy on this old lady...I do not understand the words you are using...I do understand about Leaky Gut...have that problem. What is the approach with what b vitamin? LOL You got what you deserved there, Duncan! LOL Thank you for the laugh, Virginia! Keep on asking and learning! hugs Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSasthma
Hi Terry, ( or anyone else ) am looking for info on cs and any benefits for asthma sufferers - many thanks - Richard On 26/01/2007, at 18:30, Terry Chamberlin wrote: I have had several reports from clients of 1 - 3 day successes using CS to fight shingles. Most of these clients drank CS generously (1-oz, 3xday or more). Some applied CS externally, some didn't. One client reported overnight results with the CS Salve that I sell to HF stores here in Canada. Since shingles is a herpes virus (herpes zoster), it responds the same as herpes simplex I II (cold sores VD), which CS is very effective against. In addition to CS, 8-10,000 mg/day of the amino acid lysine will nearly always clear up any member of the herpes family in short order. It is also imperative that a person fighting any herpes virus adjust their diet to omit (until the sores are gone) all nuts, beans and seeds. These items contain high levels of arginine, an amino acid that makes the herpes virus flourish. A regime such I have outlined here will, except in the most stubborn cases, produce very positive results within a week. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSAsthma: alternative approach
Richard wrote: am looking for info on cs and any benefits for asthma sufferers For asthma there is a Reflexological approach, which is not really difficult to do. Anyone interested, please write to luzy...@une.net.co Faith and Luz, alternative Health practitioners, licensed, committed Refexology therapists. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAsthma: alternative approach/ Duncan
In a message dated 3/19/2007 3:00:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, duncanc...@shaw.ca writes: Asthma is associated in the research with oxidative stress caused by low glutathione, and when you elevate glutathione with selenium and undenatured whey and take other antioxidants, asthma goes away. This I think is the correct orthomolecular approach in addition to reducing casual toxin exposure, and curb toxin creation in the gut by dysbiosis, which causes leaky gut, a huge asthma aggravator. The approach, with a b-vitamin, has also worked on COPD. Duncan Eeee...Duncan...have mercy on this old lady...I do not understand the words you are using...I do understand about Leaky Gut...have that problem. What is the approach with what b vitamin? I take what I thought was a good multi B by Solgar...V. On 19 Mar 2007 at 9:08, Faith Saint Francis wrote: Richard wrote: am looking for info on cs and any benefits for asthma sufferers For asthma there is a Reflexological approach, which is not really difficult to do. Anyone interested, please write to luzy...@une.net.co Faith and Luz, alternative Health practitioners, licensed, committed Refexology therapists. ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: CSAsthma: alternative approach
Asthma is associated in the research with oxidative stress caused by low glutathione, and when you elevate glutathione with selenium and undenatured whey and take other antioxidants, asthma goes away. This I think is the correct orthomolecular approach in addition to reducing casual toxin exposure, and curb toxin creation in the gut by dysbiosis, which causes leaky gut, a huge asthma aggravator. The approach, with a b-vitamin, has also worked on COPD. Duncan On 19 Mar 2007 at 9:08, Faith Saint Francis wrote: Richard wrote: am looking for info on cs and any benefits for asthma sufferers For asthma there is a Reflexological approach, which is not really difficult to do. Anyone interested, please write to luzy...@une.net.co Faith and Luz, alternative Health practitioners, licensed, committed Refexology therapists. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAsthma and CS, again.
Look into Beeswax candles - Original Message - From: marmar...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 6:11 AM Subject: Re: CSAsthma and CS, again. In a message dated 8/2/2005 9:30:31 PM Central Standard Time, wen...@tuxnightclub.com writes: We've had hair analysis on the kids done and they are low in many things and really low of course in zinc and magnesium despite what I thought to be a good diet, free of junk, sugar, and 95% processed food free. Hi Wendy. Where did you have the hair analysis done? MA
Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS
A wick type swamp vaporizer will not work. It functions by evaporation similar to a steam maker. If there is a little rotor that throws water into the air..it'll work. Most ionic CS will 'probably' make it through the filter on an ultrasonic, but it's really easy to remove and not needed when using distilled water. Why chance removing goodies if you don't have to? My filter got all clogged up when using well water. I took it apart to clean it and found a bunch of little plastic balls. Possibly an ion exchange resin coating on them? EIS might not make it through something like that. An activated carbon filter will likely remove a lot of the silver. They do remove about 80% of the dissolved solids from my well water dropping the conductivity of it considerably. I now use filtered rain water off the tin roof spiked with CS to sterilize it...and no filter [I broke the filter] When you heat with wood, you need a good humidifier...and it rains a lot in winter around here. I've tried many and the Relion Ultrasonic is, by far, the best one yet. Ode At 11:24 AM 8/9/2005 EDT, you wrote: I bought a cool-mist vaporizer at Big Lots for $7.99, intending to use it to breathe CS mist. I figured that as long as the unit did not heat the CS, making steam and separating the H2O from the Ag, that this would work. Is that correct? Why remove filter, if using ionic silver? Is it because the silver might react with it, and not get into the air? If any cool mist vaporizer will work, then these can be purchased at any drug store for under $20. Jill No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.5 - Release Date: 8/9/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.5 - Release Date: 8/9/2005
Re: CSAsthma and EFT
So would I please, if not too much trouble. My daughter has bad asthma and hayfever. Many thanks Jill jilly...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Bruce Anderson bruce...@intergate.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:11 AM Subject: Re: CSAsthma and EFT I, also, would appreciate a copy of that file. Thanks; Bruce Terry Chamberlin wrote: Nenah Sylver said, Ken, If you go to http://www.emofree.com you can download a manual for FREE and this meridian tapping technique might help your daughter and your whole family. Ken, EFT has been amazingly effective with asthma. EFT tapping can be done on the child and even for the child (on yourself in her place), with good results. I have a tutorial file I can email you that shows you how to do EFT. It's clearer than the instructions in the emofree manual. Just let me know if you want it. Just recently, I used EFT for a growing health issue that frequently appears after middle age: frequent nighttime trips to the bathroom. On the FIRST day I tapped about it, just before bed, instead of getting up every two hours, I slept all night. Coincidence, obviously, my mind whispered to me. But it's been nearly a week now, and I am sleeping all night each night. Haven't done that in a long time. I used EFT with a young lady (grand-daughter of a client) who was in the middle of some kind of mental breakdown - she had dropped out of college, slept 18 hours/day, and cried every minute she was conscious. I met with her 5 Saturdays in a row, doing EFT with her. At the end of that time, she went back to college radiant. Amazing. Terry Chamberlin __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.10.3/66 - Release Date: 8/8/2005
CSasthma and eft
Terry, I too would be grateful for a copy of that protocol. pj Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSAsthma and EFT
Hi Terry, I too would be interested in the EFT file, if it's not too much trouble. Thanks, Sheila -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS
Walmart has an ultrasonic humidifier that will do the nebulizing job for $34. Relion brand. [Make sure it says ultrasonic] Reloin has different types too. Remove filter, dump in home made very cheap CS and sit over the outlet and breath deep. It's also the best humidifier I ever saw or used. Ode Sophia was doing relatively well until this past month. I'm not sure why she is getting so many more attacks this past month or so. Maybe in the middle of the month I'll have some money to get a nebulizer. -Ken Hi Ken, My sister has a Pug who was overdosed on steroids (not the vet's fault), and has ruined his immune system. He now has aspergillis in his lungs and after 5 shots of an antibiotic of the last resort, was no better. I offered to let her use my Multi Tech XJ-3000C, air purification system (ionizer, ozone, hepa filter, UV light, activated carbon). One night and he was MUCH better according to my sister. We will see. Jean ** There are alot of lawsuits out there pending regarding various ozone air purification devices, and I've reviewed reports from devestated parents who have used such devices, whose children have apparently experienced permanent lung damage from the use of such machines. While I cannot vouch for the authenticity of these claims, I doubt that the parents are simply money-grubbing people, or FDA plants. That scares me. I think I'm going to stop using my ionizers. My little girl has for the past 36 hours of so been coughing and wheezing and short of breath, and the albuterol we are currently giving her (temporarily until I get a nebulizer and some CS) is barely working. I beginning to wonder if the ionizers are at fault. But I really don't know. I'm going to turn them off, and I'm going to tell my wife to take Sophia to the beach for the day. Maybe that will help clear her up. -Ken __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.4/66 - Release Date: 8/9/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.4 - Release Date: 8/9/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.4 - Release Date: 8/9/2005
CSAsthma and EFT
Nenah Sylver said, Ken, If you go to http://www.emofree.com you can download a manual for FREE and this meridian tapping technique might help your daughter and your whole family. Ken, EFT has been amazingly effective with asthma. EFT tapping can be done on the child and even for the child (on yourself in her place), with good results. I have a tutorial file I can email you that shows you how to do EFT. It's clearer than the instructions in the emofree manual. Just let me know if you want it. Just recently, I used EFT for a growing health issue that frequently appears after middle age: frequent nighttime trips to the bathroom. On the FIRST day I tapped about it, just before bed, instead of getting up every two hours, I slept all night. Coincidence, obviously, my mind whispered to me. But it's been nearly a week now, and I am sleeping all night each night. Haven't done that in a long time. I used EFT with a young lady (grand-daughter of a client) who was in the middle of some kind of mental breakdown - she had dropped out of college, slept 18 hours/day, and cried every minute she was conscious. I met with her 5 Saturdays in a row, doing EFT with her. At the end of that time, she went back to college radiant. Amazing. Terry Chamberlin __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAsthma and EFT
Terry, Will that technique work on digestive system? Not very bad problem, just annoying. It it does, may I have your tutorial file also, please? Thanks :) Barbara Just recently, I used EFT for a growing health issue that frequently appears after middle age: frequent nighttime trips to the bathroom. On the FIRST day I tapped about it, just before bed, instead of getting up every two hours, I slept all night. Coincidence, obviously, my mind whispered to me. But it's been nearly a week now, and I am sleeping all night each night. Haven't done that in a long time. Terry Chamberlin -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I bought a cool-mist vaporizer at Big Lots for $7.99, intending to use it to breathe CS mist. I figured that as long as the unit did not heat the CS, making steam and separating the H2O from the Ag, that this would work. Is that correct? Why remove filter, if using ionic silver? Is it because the silver might react with it, and not get into the air? If any cool mist vaporizer will work, then these can be purchased at any drug store for under $20. Jill
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May I please have your tutorial file also? Will EFT work on bladder inflammation? Will it work on parasites?--no information on the emofree website on these. I have not found information on the emofree website on the use of EFT to remove the influence of Dark Force energies; it should work, because chiropractic techniques have a noticeable effect. Does anyone have any information or experience in this regard? Protection against the Dark Force energies is an extremely significant component of overall health and well being. If there is any interest in this sensitive topic, I will share some of the valuable information I have. It would definitely need to be moved to the OT list, however. Thanks, Jill
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In a message dated 8/9/05 10:39:03 AM Central Daylight Time, grace1...@aol.com writes: Protection against the Dark Force energies is an extremely significant component of overall health and well being. Well, I'm at least wondering what Dark Force energies are? MA
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You think N-A-C (N-Acetyl-Cysteine) would be useful? NAC would be useful as a glutathione precursor, but there are a couple of strong reasons that it's used in emergency situations and not as a daily supplement. First, although NAC does increase cysteine delivery to the cells it's treated as a toxin by the body. Complexing toxic cysteine with acetic acid as a carrier does not render it non-toxic. That's why at decent doses, in adults 500 mg per dose, it does produce some toxic effects and doctors who promote antioxidant use decided the trade-off wasn't worth using it as a daily supplement. Second, it has a very short half-life in the system, so dosing is frequent, on the order of every four hours, in order to avoid plummeting glutathione levels in between doses. This can be a disaster in an acute situation and also in an infection situation, as low glutathione actually stimulates infection. I heard that is a cystine containing compound, and at one time, it was purported to be helpful to those with emphysema, but then that was retracted because they couldn't agree on whether it really reduced mucous or not. Glutathione delivered as a mist is OK for lungs, but because antioxidant depletion is a systemic condition I mentioned precursors first that would address it as such. The cold-processed whey and selenium is also the least expensive route, even if you also add the other antioxidants. I guess I can look into the selenium and vitamins. She already takes a daily multivitamin, with fair amounts of common vitamins and minerals. It's not flintstones vitamins or some garbage like that, and it has no artificial anything in it. But I don't remember if it has selenium. I've used Omega 6 Borage oil before for gum inflammation and I know that stuff works for inflammation. Do you think that would be useful? Personally, I don't recommend omega-6 oils for anything as they generally promote inflammation and supplementation is usually superfluous anyway. It's omega-3 oils that are usually in short supply in the diet. Part of the problem to is that it is hard to get her to take some medicines consistently. She can't figure out how to swallow capsules yet, and thay would be so helpful if she would, because so many of the herbs, vitamins, etc, are just plain nasty tasting, and often are not concealable. Cold-processed whey makes a nice drink a lot like a milkshake. Duncan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Check out www.christaresources.com/protection, for more complete and professional information about the Dark Forces than I could give. Jill
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This is common place in energy medicine as people work to decrease pain thus increasing their frequency and consciousness. We acquired pain by misperceptions/misalignment of truth. When balanced, one's gates of awareness to truth open and the pain will dissolve. It's subtle frequencies. Good food and water assist the process. Addiction to junk foods is often reflective of 'eractic' though processes which attract lower energies - eg. drugs - street and pharma, alcohol, sugar, anger, rejection, anti-biotics (Latin = anti-against, biotic-life), abandonment, you know them... Don't cover them up with pain killers. Look directly at them. They inhibit the electrical circuitry of the meridians, chakras, etc. which activate the exterior membranes of our cells - the brain of the cells - Reference: Dr. B. Lipton, cellular biologist. Book: 'The Biology of Belief, unleashing the power of consciousness, matter and miracles'.. Sometimes limited thinking patterns are acquired from cultural, spiritual practices... It's all within each one of us. YOU KNOW when you get it RIGHT. THE PAIN LEAVES! Consider the depth of ancient wisdom: The thought manifests as the word The word manifests as the deed The deed develops into habit And the habit hardens into character So watch the thought And it's ways with care And let it sprig from love Born out of respect for all beings ... Dharma Christine http://mybodytalk.com From: marmar...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 12:03:20 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAsthma and EFT Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 09:03:49 -0700 In a message dated 8/9/05 10:39:03 AM Central Daylight Time, grace1...@aol.com writes: Protection against the Dark Force energies is an extremely significant component of overall health and well being. Well, I'm at least wondering what Dark Force energies are? MA
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Protection is a step of awareness of the 'blocked energies'. However, protection sets up a mind set of duality. Perhaps if we could escape from the media overlay of 'Your with Us or Your 'agin Us' mentality, and started to see that all is in balance, then we could ask the right questions to get the lessons and move on. Fear is wonderful 'dumbing down' tool. It's energy blockage which limits the consciousness. Often our most precious sacrosanct beliefs get us into biggest 'do-do's' which create most physical, emotion and mental pain places. Some energy medicines build and extend the prevailing electrical grids around our bodies, and our awareness of choices increases. Good water, (CS) aids conductivity of electrical impulses increasing consciousness. Christine From: grace1...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 11:37:09 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAsthma and EFT Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 08:37:40 -0700 May I please have your tutorial file also? Will EFT work on bladder inflammation? Will it work on parasites?--no information on the emofree website on these. I have not found information on the emofree website on the use of EFT to remove the influence of Dark Force energies; it should work, because chiropractic techniques have a noticeable effect. Does anyone have any information or experience in this regard? Protection against the Dark Force energies is an extremely significant component of overall health and well being. If there is any interest in this sensitive topic, I will share some of the valuable information I have. It would definitely need to be moved to the OT list, however. Thanks, Jill
Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS
I bought a cool-mist vaporizer at Big Lots for $7.99, intending to use it to breathe CS mist. I figured that as long as the unit did not heat the CS, making steam and separating the H2O from the Ag, that this would work. Is that correct? Why remove filter, if using ionic silver? Is it because the silver might react with it, and not get into the air? If any cool mist vaporizer will work, then these can be purchased at any drug store for under $20. Jill This was the eaxct method we used several times to get rid of a nasty 100 day flu that came through the region two years in a row. They drank colloidal silver and breathed it directly from the cool mist unit. We all used primarily ionic CS made with the silver maker that uses a microwave oven circuit. Long story short - no failures, and it cured the flu in less than two days each time. Duncan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Terry, I would like a copy of the file also. Thanks! Gail www.expertembroidery.com www.livingnow.net/gevans - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 9:51 AM Subject: CSAsthma and EFT Nenah Sylver said, Ken, If you go to http://www.emofree.com you can download a manual for FREE and this meridian tapping technique might help your daughter and your whole family. Ken, EFT has been amazingly effective with asthma. EFT tapping can be done on the child and even for the child (on yourself in her place), with good results. I have a tutorial file I can email you that shows you how to do EFT. It's clearer than the instructions in the emofree manual. Just let me know if you want it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Try this site consider getting the water cure book http://watercure.com He uses water salt to cure Asthma one of the things he suggest asthmatics stay away from is orange juice ! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I, also, would appreciate a copy of that file. Thanks; Bruce Terry Chamberlin wrote: Nenah Sylver said, Ken, If you go to http://www.emofree.com you can download a manual for FREE and this meridian tapping technique might help your daughter and your whole family. Ken, EFT has been amazingly effective with asthma. EFT tapping can be done on the child and even for the child (on yourself in her place), with good results. I have a tutorial file I can email you that shows you how to do EFT. It's clearer than the instructions in the emofree manual. Just let me know if you want it. Just recently, I used EFT for a growing health issue that frequently appears after middle age: frequent nighttime trips to the bathroom. On the FIRST day I tapped about it, just before bed, instead of getting up every two hours, I slept all night. Coincidence, obviously, my mind whispered to me. But it's been nearly a week now, and I am sleeping all night each night. Haven't done that in a long time. I used EFT with a young lady (grand-daughter of a client) who was in the middle of some kind of mental breakdown - she had dropped out of college, slept 18 hours/day, and cried every minute she was conscious. I met with her 5 Saturdays in a row, doing EFT with her. At the end of that time, she went back to college radiant. Amazing. Terry Chamberlin __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.10.3/66 - Release Date: 8/8/2005
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Hi Terrry, I would be interested in the EFT file too if you wouldn't mind... thanks ..debbie
Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS
italic[How is that different from the stainless steel plates in other ionizers? I never detected any heat in one of those either. How does an Aranizer compare to any other good air ionizer in both ozone and NOx levels? An Aranizer is an ozone generator, right? ...Not an air ionizer. There is no comparison except that they both use voltage. Arinizer specs. Heck, 'everyones' specs are hard to find! Residual effect-oxidized mucus memebrane proteins you didn't need and cough up/ expel? Oxidized into what? Doesn't matter if it gets expelled, right?] Actually, the antioxidant levels in the lungs, particularly glutathione, are there to stop the mucous membranes from oxidising. The lungs are the third biggest users of glutathione after the liver and the kidneys. Peer-reviewed data on glutathione is here: http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/GSH_medline.html italicO5 a pentatomic allotropic molecule of oxygen. The story about O5 being somehow better than O3 doesn't reflect the reality that only the last oxygen molecule in the chain oxidizes anything. In the case of O5, the balance, being O4, is two O2 molecules, just oxygen. Just how rare and special is that..beyond all the sales hype? Do other ionizers make them? Just hype, and if ozone generators make them it doesn't matter. Duncan (an ozone therapist) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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There are alot of lawsuits out there pending regarding various ozone air purification devices, and I've reviewed reports from devestated parents who have used such devices, whose children have apparently experienced permanent lung damage from the use of such machines. While I cannot vouch for the authenticity of these claims, I doubt that the parents are simply money-grubbing people, or FDA plants. That scares me. I think I'm going to stop using my ionizers. My little girl has for the past 36 hours of so been coughing and wheezing and short of breath, and the albuterol we are currently giving her (temporarily until I get a nebulizer and some CS) is barely working. I beginning to wonder if the ionizers are at fault. But I really don't know. I'm going to turn them off, and I'm going to tell my wife to take Sophia to the beach for the day. Maybe that will help clear her up. -Ken Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Ken, My sister has a Pug who was overdosed on steroids (not the vet's fault), and has ruined his immune system. He now has aspergillis in his lungs and after 5 shots of an antibiotic of the last resort, was no better. I offered to let her use my Multi Tech XJ-3000C, air purification system (ionizer, ozone, hepa filter, UV light, activated carbon). One night and he was MUCH better according to my sister. We will see. Jean ** There are alot of lawsuits out there pending regarding various ozone air purification devices, and I've reviewed reports from devestated parents who have used such devices, whose children have apparently experienced permanent lung damage from the use of such machines. While I cannot vouch for the authenticity of these claims, I doubt that the parents are simply money-grubbing people, or FDA plants. That scares me. I think I'm going to stop using my ionizers. My little girl has for the past 36 hours of so been coughing and wheezing and short of breath, and the albuterol we are currently giving her (temporarily until I get a nebulizer and some CS) is barely working. I beginning to wonder if the ionizers are at fault. But I really don't know. I'm going to turn them off, and I'm going to tell my wife to take Sophia to the beach for the day. Maybe that will help clear her up. -Ken -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Jean, I hear you, and I know there are people who have apparently been really helped by devices like these. But I honestly do not know what the cause is for my little girl's asthma problem at this time. For the past few months she has taken albuterol only infrequently, but in the past couple months, maybe once a week. For some reason, the past day and a half, something is making it to where we are having to give it to her every four hours because she is short of breath, wheezing and mucousy. I do not yet know much about steroids or how badly they can affect the immune system or not. The choice I'm faced with right now is whether I want her to be able to breathe or whether she might get some immune system damage in the future. My hope is that some combination of nebulizer and CS will help her, but I do not yet have money for nebulizer or CS or MSM. I spent around $130 or so for 3 of these air ionizers because I thought it might help my little girl's coughing problem several months back. She had constant mucous from post nasal drip and we never did figure out what was causing that. I just bought these air purifiers in hopes that it might help, and it apparently did. She stopped coughing all the time. But now she seems to have asthma. Is that from something else in the air, or the ozone generation? I really do not know! I keep throwing money at her health problems, but I do not know the source of them. And everytime a possible health-positive cure is mentioned, it's costing me $50 here, $100 there, $200 over there, but in the end, it still is very hard to figure out because she's only 2 and 1/2 and cannot tell me really what is wrong. So I have to guessimate. All her pediatrician wanted to do is put her on albuterol. I'm not going to put her on albuterol, but I can't afford another kind of practitioner right now, since I'm barely making it from check to check. Hopefully that will change soon, but not right now. Sophia was doing relatively well until this past month. I'm not sure why she is getting so many more attacks this past month or so. Maybe in the middle of the month I'll have some money to get a nebulizer. -Ken Hi Ken, My sister has a Pug who was overdosed on steroids (not the vet's fault), and has ruined his immune system. He now has aspergillis in his lungs and after 5 shots of an antibiotic of the last resort, was no better. I offered to let her use my Multi Tech XJ-3000C, air purification system (ionizer, ozone, hepa filter, UV light, activated carbon). One night and he was MUCH better according to my sister. We will see. Jean ** There are alot of lawsuits out there pending regarding various ozone air purification devices, and I've reviewed reports from devestated parents who have used such devices, whose children have apparently experienced permanent lung damage from the use of such machines. While I cannot vouch for the authenticity of these claims, I doubt that the parents are simply money-grubbing people, or FDA plants. That scares me. I think I'm going to stop using my ionizers. My little girl has for the past 36 hours of so been coughing and wheezing and short of breath, and the albuterol we are currently giving her (temporarily until I get a nebulizer and some CS) is barely working. I beginning to wonder if the ionizers are at fault. But I really don't know. I'm going to turn them off, and I'm going to tell my wife to take Sophia to the beach for the day. Maybe that will help clear her up. -Ken __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I got my DMSO from Jeffers equine. I believe it was about $27 US for a gallon. Regards Kent -Original Message- From: Ken Nancy Bagwell [mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:18 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSasthma and CS, again Thanks everyone for the ideas. I'm especially interest in the salt lamps, too. I'm using 3 ionizers in the house now, but I turned them all off because Garnet said the ozone was dangerous. Later this month, I will try to get a nebulizer and some CS/dmso. However, I still have yet to hear from anyone re my question about DMSO or MSM source. Is there a best cheap source to get them from together? Does the MSM have to be pharmaceutical grade or something, since it's going to very sensitive lungs of my little 2 and 1/2 year old Sophia? -Ken Bagwell __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ken, If you go to http://www.emofree.com/ you can download a manual for FREE and this meridian tapping technique might help your daughter and your whole family. Best, Nenah - Original Message - From: Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 2:53 PM Subject: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS Hi Jean, I hear you, and I know there are people who have apparently been really helped by devices like these. But I honestly do not know what the cause is for my little girl's asthma problem at this time. For the past few months she has taken albuterol only infrequently, but in the past couple months, maybe once a week. For some reason, the past day and a half, something is making it to where we are having to give it to her every four hours because she is short of breath, wheezing and mucousy. I do not yet know much about steroids or how badly they can affect the immune system or not. The choice I'm faced with right now is whether I want her to be able to breathe or whether she might get some immune system damage in the future. My hope is that some combination of nebulizer and CS will help her, but I do not yet have money for nebulizer or CS or MSM. I spent around $130 or so for 3 of these air ionizers because I thought it might help my little girl's coughing problem several months back. She had constant mucous from post nasal drip and we never did figure out what was causing that. I just bought these air purifiers in hopes that it might help, and it apparently did. She stopped coughing all the time. But now she seems to have asthma. Is that from something else in the air, or the ozone generation? I really do not know! I keep throwing money at her health problems, but I do not know the source of them. And everytime a possible health-positive cure is mentioned, it's costing me $50 here, $100 there, $200 over there, but in the end, it still is very hard to figure out because she's only 2 and 1/2 and cannot tell me really what is wrong. So I have to guessimate. All her pediatrician wanted to do is put her on albuterol. I'm not going to put her on albuterol, but I can't afford another kind of practitioner right now, since I'm barely making it from check to check. Hopefully that will change soon, but not right now. Sophia was doing relatively well until this past month. I'm not sure why she is getting so many more attacks this past month or so. Maybe in the middle of the month I'll have some money to get a nebulizer. -Ken -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS
My little girl has for the past 36 hours of so been coughing and wheezing and short of breath, and the albuterol we are currently giving her (temporarily until I get a nebulizer and some CS) is barely working. I beginning to wonder if the ionizers are at fault. -Ken Ken, before you blame the ionizer, which has not been linked to problems, take look at a probable antioxidant deficiency. The lungs are the third biggest users of the antioxidant enzyme glutathione after the liver and kidneys. The rate-limiting factor in glutathione production is cysteine, actually as cysteine-containing amino acid peptides, not as a free- form amino acid. The peptides happen to be in short supply in the diet, as is drinking water selenium in most areas. Selenium is used to make one form of glutathione, and it is low or absent in many areas and it's also depleted by arsenic in drinking water, a combination that can easily exacerbate a depleted antioxidant pool. The proof is in the pudding though, and I've seen people who were on oxygen for COPD for example not require it anymore. They reduced the irritating toxins, thus the mucous problem and inflammation, with cold-processed whey, selenium, and the antioxidant vitamins C, E, A, and a b-complex. Further gains could probably have been made with other antioxidants and cod-liver oil, an antiinflammatory. The other thing to look up is insufficient nitric oxide production in the lungs. It is important for microcapilliary circulation and when there's enough you get less swelling. There's probably enough arginine in the cold-processed whey but some people get good results with Noni. Although I no longer sell Noni products I think a lot of Noni and Nitric Oxide science is still on my web site. Duncan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Duncan, You think N-A-C (N-Acetyl-Cysteine) would be useful? I heard that is a cystine containing compound, and at one time, it was purported to be helpful to those with emphysema, but then that was retracted because they couldn't agree on whether it really reduced mucous or not. I guess I can look into the selenium and vitamins. She already takes a daily multivitamin, with fair amounts of common vitamins and minerals. It's not flintstones vitamins or some garbage like that, and it has no artificial anything in it. But I don't remember if it has selenium. I've used Omega 6 Borage oil before for gum inflammation and I know that stuff works for inflammation. Do you think that would be useful? Part of the problem to is that it is hard to get her to take some medicines consistently. She can't figure out how to swallow capsules yet, and thay would be so helpful if she would, because so many of the herbs, vitamins, etc, are just plain nasty tasting, and often are not concealable. -Ken * From: Duncan Crow (view other messages by this author) * Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 13:48:39 My little girl has for the past 36 hours of so been coughing and wheezing and short of breath, and the albuterol we are currently giving her (temporarily until I get a nebulizer and some CS) is barely working. I beginning to wonder if the ionizers are at fault. -Ken Ken, before you blame the ionizer, which has not been linked to problems, take look at a probable antioxidant deficiency. The lungs are the third biggest users of the antioxidant enzyme glutathione after the liver and kidneys. The rate-limiting factor in glutathione production is cysteine, actually as cysteine-containing amino acid peptides, not as a free- form amino acid. The peptides happen to be in short supply in the diet, as is drinking water selenium in most areas. Selenium is used to make one form of glutathione, and it is low or absent in many areas and it's also depleted by arsenic in drinking water, a combination that can easily exacerbate a depleted antioxidant pool. The proof is in the pudding though, and I've seen people who were on oxygen for COPD for example not require it anymore. They reduced the irritating toxins, thus the mucous problem and inflammation, with cold-processed whey, selenium, and the antioxidant vitamins C, E, A, and a b-complex. Further gains could probably have been made with other antioxidants and cod-liver oil, an antiinflammatory. The other thing to look up is insufficient nitric oxide production in the lungs. It is important for microcapilliary circulation and when there's enough you get less swelling. There's probably enough arginine in the cold-processed whey but some people get good results with Noni. Although I no longer sell Noni products I think a lot of Noni and Nitric Oxide science is still on my web site. Duncan -- __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I use veterinary grade DMSO as well, purchased locally, but it may very well be the exact same product that Jeffers sells. They also have a very good price on MSM. I purchase my MSM from www.msm-msm.com though, because so far it is the only place I have found the Opti-MSM which is an entirely U.S. made and sourced product. Lignisul MSM is made in the U.S. from ingredients from China. Lignisul is commonly found in most combination msm products available over the counter. In any case for use in a nebulizer you want the pure MSM crystals, that sold in capsules has fillers. For my pet rabbit I use a recipe of 1 ounce pure EIS (my homemade, usually about 15 ppm), 1/2 teaspoon of pure MSM, and 5 drops DMSO. For us adult humans I could probably use more DMSO, but this mix works well even for us, and it is safe for my rabbit. I have used it as nose drops and as ear drops, too. For eye drops, I use one ounce of my EIS, with one dropperful of DMSO. MSM makes my eyes sting so I don't use it in eye drops. Did you look for a nebulizer at ebay? Several people have said they got good ones there. I have an omron comp-air elite which I paid $65 for. Could have gotten it cheaper online, but I needed it ASAP. sol kent wrote: I got my DMSO from Jeffers equine. I believe it was about $27 US for a gallon. Regards Kent -Original Message- From: Ken Nancy Bagwell [mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com] Later this month, I will try to get a nebulizer and some CS/dmso. However, I still have yet to hear from anyone re my question about DMSO or MSM source. Is there a best cheap source to get them from together? Does the MSM have to be pharmaceutical grade or something, since it's going to very sensitive lungs of my little 2 and 1/2 year old Sophia? -Ken Bagwell -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS
http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:_i0P3n_gYgMJ:www.hcl-intl.cc/products/bulletins/17227.pdf+Aranizer+ozone+levelhl=en Ozone is destroyed when it contacts mucus membranes. [OK, so maybe ozone doesn't harm lung 'tissue' because it never reaches it. But it is destroyed by oxidizing the membrane. Ozone 'burns' organic molecules..which of course, incudes bacterium. Mucus membrane is pretty much expendable and expellabe ..cough..and high enough destruction rates will probably make the body produce more mucus. I can see why that could be considered an 'irritant' should there be a high concentration of ozone. I can see how the right amount could clear and sterilize the lungs and how too much could conjest them again. Meanwhile, bacterium etc in the mucus suffers the same fate as the mucus...could be very a good therapeutic thing if controlled properly.] [Oxides of nitrogen.] These are usually generated when Ozone is made. [with electric sparking, plasma etc. Apparently there is a difference between hot and cold plasma?] The NOx combines with water vapor (could be moisture in the nose, eyes and lungs) and creates dilute forms of Nitric and Nitrous acids which are damaging to human tissue. [OK cool, I'll buy that. Seeing that brush arcing in electrical motors produce NOXs and ozone and the air around here is always very humid..I would expect to see a lot of nitric acid produced. If one has ever put steel in nitric acid, one would know how violently it reacts..one very quick way to shorten a shotgun barrel or get into a steel safe. My drills don't corrode inside, but the chords do fall apart. I assume it's the Ozone that eats them alive. Rubber is pretty well resistant to nitric acid. Rubber gloves..and a gas mask.. should be worn when making that 'sawed off'] It is the NOx that causes the problems with Ozone. ARANIZER units never produce NOx because they employ the use of cold dense plasma generators that have no electrical sparking. The more powerful natural mica dielectrics standard in these units generates high voltages without electrical sparking. The plasma is warm (below 104 F) so maximum output of ARAN is achieved. Again, the only residual effect after oxidation with this ARAN is the oxidized substance and oxygen. [How is that different from the stainless steel plates in other ionizers? I never detected any heat in one of those either. If my Trion whole house filter does spark , it stops working altogether and I have to straighten the plates so it quits sparking...after cleaning it with a 15,000 psi pressure washer..don't do that. Mica IS a very interesting substance..very heat resistant for one, used on furnace windows and has electronic properties similar to quarts in many ways, used in the old vaccuum tubes and electron guns? How does an Aranizer compare to any other good air ionizer in both ozone and NOx levels? ..looking for some hard to find..for some reason.. Arinizer specs. Heck, 'everyones' specs are hard to find! Residual effect-oxidized mucus memebrane proteins you didn't need and cough up/ expel? Oxidized into what? Doesn't matter if it gets expelled, right?] O5 a pentatomic allotropic molecule of oxygen. Just how rare and special is that..beyond all the sales hype? Do other ionizers make them? I would appear that sales hype, regardless of brand, outnumbers real info 1000 to 1. Based on Tesla technology? Phuut. You could say that about everything that's high voltage, has anything to do with AC current and is man made. If you plug it into the wall, it's Tesla. PS I do like my whole house Trion and I don't worry about ozone OR acid in the air. It's not like it's all not there anyhow in this industrialized consumer world...not to mention volcanoes and lightening storms. What, me, a welder, worry? Nah, strike that arc! I rather expect my lungs to last as long as I do, ey? Besides..I'd rather NOT get too old... If 50 feels like this compared to 30 [Not bad but way different], I don't even want to imagine what 90 feels like. Great shape for an 80 yr old...well, my stoic ole Pop can still move around and gets a lot done, but he makes some faces while he's at it. [I'm just 'beginning' to understand what they mean] Ode No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1 - Release Date: 8/4/2005
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Musical drills -- an innovation of symphonic proportions! The Chicago Industrial Orchestra will be interested! On Sunday, Aug 7, 2005, at 08:38 Asia/Tokyo, Ode Coyote wrote: My drills don't corrode inside, but the chords do fall apart. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ozone will break down virtually any organic molecule and living cell. [Makes a really good water sterilizer] If the concentration isn't too high and cells can replicate faster than they are destroyed, if ozone kills off weak cells faster and at lower concentrations than strong cells, perhaps then ozone can be beneficial like scrubbing the heck out of your skin can improve it. [but too much scrubbing removes it.] Using a torch on hair gets rid of split ends..but can get rid of hair too. [In a flash!] The Gov't set a 'concentration' standard and it's probably on the high side to direct attention away from harmful man made environmental ozone levels. These standards are based on exposure 'duration' as well as concentration. How much for how long is 'key'. If anything, they'd want to play down harmfulness...or they'd wind up having to do something expensive and very unpopular about it. Gov't rule #1 Cover your ass. #2 Blame something else first #3 Don't interfere with industry or peoples desire to drive cars as much as that's possible without violating rule #1 It is a really good idea to be very careful with something that will rot the tires right off your car. I've replaced many a rubber drill cord that ozone [made by the drill motor] ate off. ..not saying don't do it, just don't over do it. Some air ionizers put off a lot of ozone that can build up in todays sealed houses. Others make less. Check the specs. [Required on the package by law for some reason] I've heard that a waterfall makes negative ions? Ode At 07:15 AM 8/5/2005 -0400, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 12:18 AM Subject: CSasthma and CS, again Thanks everyone for the ideas. I'm especially interest in the salt lamps, too. I'm using 3 ionizers in the house now, but I turned them all off because Garnet said the ozone was dangerous. === Sigh. This is what happens when rumors persist and incorrect info is circulated as fact. Say it enough, and say it forcefully enough, and people believe it. Even if it's not true. First, negative ions and ozone are not necessary the same thing. You can have an ion generator that does not produce ozone. Salt lamps are supposed to produce negative ions, the same substances that are being produced by your electrically powered ionizers (if indeed they *are* ionizers). Negative ions are beneficial. So is ozone. I'm sick of repeating myself, so you can look it up in the silver list archives or do a search on Google. The government websites hate ozone and won't tell you the truth. I have an entire section on ozone in my book on sauna therapy, if anyone wants solid documented information -- including the history of ozone use and how the myths about ozone came to be so widely quoted. There's information on ions in the book, too. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD http://www.nenahsylver.com * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy * products and services for wellness -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1/64 - Release Date: 8/4/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1 - Release Date: 8/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1 - Release Date: 8/4/2005
Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS
- Original Message - From: Connie Howard craehow...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 11:46 PM Subject: Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS Sharon... Do you think that your Ozone machine would work in my basement? My house is 100 years old and has gone through a lot of moisture being dumped under the house; that couple with Racoons, cats, skunks, etc the smell coming from the basement is not very good. My house is 850 sq ft with a partial basement below half of it. The other part is crawal space. If it would would I need a certain model to handle that space? thanks connie Connie, I'm not Sharon, but would like to share my own experience with using an Aranizer in a similar situation. For six years until recently, I lived in a house with a crawl space that was very damp -- so damp, in fact, that black mold was growing in the house! Leaving an Aranizer running in the crawl space 24/7 was very helpful. It was also a blessing to have one running INSIDE the house. We finally got the landlords to put a drainpipe in the gutter so the water ran off the roof to the ground away from the house when it rained, instead of pouring directly under the house in the crawl space. For you, running a dehumidifier in the finished portion of the basement could be really helpful. So would running the Aranizers. If there's no mold in your house, all this can help prevent it from growing. If there's already mold growing in the walls, you will probably have to run tubes from the Aranizers into the walls where the mold is growing -- because even though the ozone is in the air in the room, it generally cannot reach the inside of the wall or go through the wall to get to the mold. (How I wish what Garnet had written, that ozone goes into sheetrock and stays there, were true! Then we wouldn't need to run tubes into the walls.) By the way, a friend of mine owns a plastics factory and every time I'd visit him there, if the door from the inner lobby to the plastics molding portion of the factory we open, I'd have to run to his office holding my breath to avoid the fumes. He was just beginning the construction of prototypes of his wonderful far infrared sauna cabinet, so I was visiting him a lot because I was working on my sauna book; I really needed to be there. I worked on him for four years to install an air purification system in that factory. He finally did. He bought a humungous industrial size Aranizer. Even though the workers were not health-oriented at all, a few days after it was installed they all commented on how nice the air smelled! And one woman, who had chronic sinus problems, felt them abate considerably. So these Aranizers really work. I have dealer privileges, but use them only for myself and for people who are really ready to buy, because it's too much work to convince people that (1) ozone is safe, and (2) the Aranizers really work and are worth the price. They are more expensive than other brands, but you can leave them running 24/7 and there are no parts to wear out (it's based on Tesla technology). Best, Nenah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS
Thanks... I'lll try your idea. connie On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 23:08:48 -0400 starshar stars...@comcast.net writes: From: Connie Howard craehow...@juno.com Sharon... Do you think that your Ozone machine would work in my basement? My house is 100 years old and has gone through a lot of moisture being dumped under the house; that couple with Racoons, cats, skunks, etc the smell coming from the basement is not very good. My house is 850 sq ft with a partial basement below half of it. The other part is crawal space. If it would would I need a certain model to handle that space? Connie, It sounds like you have a real challenge. I have to say that I honestly have no idea if the Aranizer would work in your situation, unfortunately. May I suggest that you put Aranizer into google, and see if there is a phone number on their website. They sell several different models for different size areas, for example. My best guess is that it would make a difference, but you don't want to buy this expensive machine based on this layman's guesswork! I wish you success in dealing with your basement Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS
Nenah, good morning! Thanks for sharing your story it helps knowing that these machines have worked in similir conditions I'm trying to decide which machine I will need I was hoping to put one in the basement and be able to reap the benefits in the basement and also address some condition upstairs in the living area. Not sure if that is an option at the point. connie On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 08:29:33 -0400 Nenah Sylver ne...@bestweb.net writes: - Original Message - From: Connie Howard craehow...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 11:46 PM Subject: Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS Sharon... Do you think that your Ozone machine would work in my basement? My house is 100 years old and has gone through a lot of moisture being dumped under the house; that couple with Racoons, cats, skunks, etc the smell coming from the basement is not very good. My house is 850 sq ft with a partial basement below half of it. The other part is crawal space. If it would would I need a certain model to handle that space? thanks connie Connie, I'm not Sharon, but would like to share my own experience with using an Aranizer in a similar situation. For six years until recently, I lived in a house with a crawl space that was very damp -- so damp, in fact, that black mold was growing in the house! Leaving an Aranizer running in the crawl space 24/7 was very helpful. It was also a blessing to have one running INSIDE the house. We finally got the landlords to put a drainpipe in the gutter so the water ran off the roof to the ground away from the house when it rained, instead of pouring directly under the house in the crawl space. For you, running a dehumidifier in the finished portion of the basement could be really helpful. So would running the Aranizers. If there's no mold in your house, all this can help prevent it from growing. If there's already mold growing in the walls, you will probably have to run tubes from the Aranizers into the walls where the mold is growing -- because even though the ozone is in the air in the room, it generally cannot reach the inside of the wall or go through the wall to get to the mold. (How I wish what Garnet had written, that ozone goes into sheetrock and stays there, were true! Then we wouldn't need to run tubes into the walls.) By the way, a friend of mine owns a plastics factory and every time I'd visit him there, if the door from the inner lobby to the plastics molding portion of the factory we open, I'd have to run to his office holding my breath to avoid the fumes. He was just beginning the construction of prototypes of his wonderful far infrared sauna cabinet, so I was visiting him a lot because I was working on my sauna book; I really needed to be there. I worked on him for four years to install an air purification system in that factory. He finally did. He bought a humungous industrial size Aranizer. Even though the workers were not health-oriented at all, a few days after it was installed they all commented on how nice the air smelled! And one woman, who had chronic sinus problems, felt them abate considerably. So these Aranizers really work. I have dealer privileges, but use them only for myself and for people who are really ready to buy, because it's too much work to convince people that (1) ozone is safe, and (2) the Aranizers really work and are worth the price. They are more expensive than other brands, but you can leave them running 24/7 and there are no parts to wear out (it's based on Tesla technology). Best, Nenah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS
Hi all: To help throw some balance on the issue, I'd like to make a few comments, and provide a few links. There are those who experience permanent lung damage from ambient ozone. I believe that a sensitivity to pure, low concentration ozone is likely pretty rare, but it does exist. I certainly don't want to argue with happy customers of Aranizer products. Alot of people are happy with their ambient ozone-generating air purifiers. However, I don't believe in using devices such as these for home air purification, and here's why: If you take a standard plastic, and expose it to ozone, at first, the plastic is going to resist oxidation. Slowly, over a period of weeks and months, the plastic begins to degrade. On one hand, these ozone people herald the benefits of breathing ozonated oils, and then on the other, they state that ozone renders all contaminants inert, deactivating by both oxidation and via ionization. Well, which is it? *smiles* It takes just about two weeks of 5% ozone constantly bubbled through oil to completely oxidate it. While the ozone is reacting with the oil, literally burning it, it outgasses. The gas, comprised of a total of three primary peroxides, is breathed into the lungs. The final compound, when the oil has been completely burned, is C10H13O3. Contrary to popular opinion, there is no ozone in this compound. There is no O3 bond, even though there are three molecules of oxygen. However, in ozonated OIL, O3 becomes trapped IN the oil. Now, these peroxides that people breath contained stabilized oxygen, but no ozone. In fact, Nikola Tesla demonstrated great benefits to OZOL; however, he also only made his oil, or Glycozone, while subjecting his process to a magnetic field. So, in this case, when one is using ozone to ozonate oils, the ozone doesn't degrade the substance right away, nor does the activated oxygen act via ionization to render the substance inert. It puts a gas in the air. In this case, the gas is quite beneficial. No such luck with plastics. As plastics degrade, the gas put into the air smells like some kind of petrochemical; it is NOT pleasant. You'd only know this if you had access to a high capacity ozone general and did experiments; pumping ozone through plastic over a period of time, and studying the effects. Therefore, one really does not want any significant amount of ozone pumping through the air on an ongoing basis in an environment that is not clean, where people are going to be present, without significant air flow present to rapidly disperse the ozone. http://www.cal-iaq.org/o3_fact.htm There are alot of lawsuits out there pending regarding various ozone air purification devices, and I've reviewed reports from devestated parents who have used such devices, whose children have apparently experienced permanent lung damage from the use of such machines. While I cannot vouch for the authenticity of these claims, I doubt that the parents are simply money-grubbing people, or FDA plants. I'm also very dissapointed in the so-called air purification companies. Ozone can be safely and effectively employed, yet I cannot find a device that absolutely does so. For those who like to build their own devices and play with technology: One would start with a thick carbon filter at the intake. The carbon acts as an ozone destructor, so that you don't start to damage your unit by sucking ozone right back into the unit. There are VERY few substances on planet Earth that are ozone resistant. Two of the most predominant substances are teflon and silicon. The second inline filter should be a high quality particulate filter, such as a good HEPA filter. After the HEPA filter, the air should be pumped into an ozone resistant chamber, where the ozone generator should be active. Cold spark, UV, or plasma generators could be used.The longer the chamber space, the better. The ozone, having actually cleaned the air, is no longer needed. Run the ozonated air through a final carbon filter. This will produce clean air Which is different than those who actually desire to UTILIZE ambient ozone for health purposes, which should be done only as a personal choice with proper understanding and personal experimentation... How badly CAN ozone contaminate an environment? This is not really known, and is environment-specific. However, consider: I took a standard plastic hose, and subjected it to 7% ozone for a long period of time. When the hose began to degrade, I set it aside for a few weeks. Then, I took a gallon of distilled water, and measured its purity. This was distilled water that I made, measuring 0.3 on a Hanna PWT meter. I took the hose, and attached it to an ozone generator, and pumped ozone into the water for 20 seconds. The purity reading went from 0.3 to about 180.0 in 20 seconds. For those who may not know, pure ozone will not effect the purity of water
Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS
- Original Message - From: Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 12:18 AM Subject: CSasthma and CS, again Thanks everyone for the ideas. I'm especially interest in the salt lamps, too. I'm using 3 ionizers in the house now, but I turned them all off because Garnet said the ozone was dangerous. === Sigh. This is what happens when rumors persist and incorrect info is circulated as fact. Say it enough, and say it forcefully enough, and people believe it. Even if it's not true. First, negative ions and ozone are not necessary the same thing. You can have an ion generator that does not produce ozone. Salt lamps are supposed to produce negative ions, the same substances that are being produced by your electrically powered ionizers (if indeed they *are* ionizers). Negative ions are beneficial. So is ozone. I'm sick of repeating myself, so you can look it up in the silver list archives or do a search on Google. The government websites hate ozone and won't tell you the truth. I have an entire section on ozone in my book on sauna therapy, if anyone wants solid documented information -- including the history of ozone use and how the myths about ozone came to be so widely quoted. There's information on ions in the book, too. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD http://www.nenahsylver.com * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy * products and services for wellness -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS
Hi Nenah: I'll second that... A Big second. Ozone, however, must be used with understanding, especially if being used as an air purifier. I say this not because ozone, in itself, is dangerous. There is no evidence to suggest this. The problem is that ozone is such a powerful oxidizing agent that it can begin to break down substances in the environment. When ozone reacts with a substance, it will eventually break it down into an inert substance. However, with some substances, such as plastics, this process can take quite some time. Between the time that ozone begins to break down some chemicals, and the time they are effectively nuetralized, they can outgas. As our world becomes more polluted, ozone has the potential of literally being one of the key core substances that may save many, many lives. I've been researching ozone and ozone therapy now for over eight months, and it is endlessly fascinating! Kind Regards, Jason Nenah Sylver wrote: - Original Message - From: Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 12:18 AM Subject: CSasthma and CS, again Thanks everyone for the ideas. I'm especially interest in the salt lamps, too. I'm using 3 ionizers in the house now, but I turned them all off because Garnet said the ozone was dangerous. === Sigh. This is what happens when rumors persist and incorrect info is circulated as fact. Say it enough, and say it forcefully enough, and people believe it. Even if it's not true. First, negative ions and ozone are not necessary the same thing. You can have an ion generator that does not produce ozone. Salt lamps are supposed to produce negative ions, the same substances that are being produced by your electrically powered ionizers (if indeed they *are* ionizers). Negative ions are beneficial. So is ozone. I'm sick of repeating myself, so you can look it up in the silver list archives or do a search on Google. The government websites hate ozone and won't tell you the truth. I have an entire section on ozone in my book on sauna therapy, if anyone wants solid documented information -- including the history of ozone use and how the myths about ozone came to be so widely quoted. There's information on ions in the book, too. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD http://www.nenahsylver.com * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy * products and services for wellness -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
