Re: [SLUG] /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied

2003-08-28 Thread John Clarke
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 10:17:44PM +1000, Ken Foskey wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 20:03, Andrew McNaughton wrote:
  * Most non-linux systems don't have a file at /bin/bash.  /bin/sh will
  always be there.
 
 Then you can code this in your if statements
 
 if [ -f $FILENAME ] ; then
 fi
 
 And it will not work.   This is not valid /bin/sh scripts, because most

It will if /usr/bin/[ exists:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -l /usr/bin/[
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 Oct  4  2002 /usr/bin/[ - test
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ rpm -qf /usr/bin/[
sh-utils-2.0.11-14

Or you can use this instead:

if test -f $FILENAME; then
...
fi

which will work on all shells.

 Don't do this unless it is necessary.

I disagree.  Use /bin/sh unless you really need something that bash
provides and sh doesn't.


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Re: [SLUG] Debian install fails - cant downloadlibstdc++2.10-glibc2.2

2003-08-28 Thread Michael Lake
Brendan Dacre wrote:


 Michael Lake wrote:
 We went to another tty and can see that that file is on the CD in dir
 /pool/main/g/gcc2.95/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-11woody1_i386.deb 
 and
 its size is so 142324 bytes. We can also use cp to copy it to /tmp so
 its certainly readable.  

 I wonder if this is the problem
 The installation  guide says...
 CD's 2 through 5 will each boot a different ``flavor'' depending on 
 which CD-ROM is inserted. See Choosing the Right Installation Set, etc...
 CD 5
 Boots the `bf2.4' flavor.

 Mike,
 
 I don't think that is the problem.  I have done several successful bf2.4 
 installs by specifying it (as I assume you did) when booting from CD1.
 
 I think you are right about the CD problem.  And in fact, it may be the 
 file called Packages which I think is used to verify the details and 
 location of all the packages.  Probably the one in 
 \dists\woody\main\binary-i386.  There appears to be a backup version of 
 this file in Packages.gz.  You might want to compare them.

OK thats a good idea.

 If you have enough spare disk space, you might want to copy the CD to 
 this spare space, replace the Packages file and do the install from disk 
 rather than CD.
 
 You can probably also get the MD5 sum of the libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 
 package (from the Packages file) and independently verify the file is 
 correct.

Yeah, i got the MDF sums from debian and I will check that this weekend 
just to see if that was the problem. But otherwise Ken has now lent me 
his Official Debian CD collection and Jill and I last night started to 
install from that and we dont get the problem that I was getting with my 
iso image. This time the packages do get validated fine.

We had bought the DVD but Jills DVD reader is too old I think.It can 
read enough of the DVD to boot but not the rest of the DVD. Prob the red 
laser is just too low a resolution to handle the DVD.

Tonight we will try again uisng CDs.

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[SLUG] linux on ibook

2003-08-28 Thread Adam Hewitt
Hi All,

I got myself an ibook about 6 or 7 weeks ago and although originally I
was thinking why would anyone want to install linux in this when OS X
is so cool, and you can run X11 with Fink?...I am beginning to feel
myself being slowly drawn to install linux on it, like a fly to a bug
zapper...its so mesmorizing...

My question is has anyone compared YDL with a debianPPC install and what
kind of results did you get? At heart I am a great debian fan, I run
debian on my PC at work, my two servers at home and my desktop at home
(although not for long...I need my games :( )...but the though of
installing a distro that was made for my ibook has me interested (that
and the fact that it comes with apt-rpm installed and configured by
default aparently)...

Any comments?

Adam.



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Re: [SLUG] linux on ibook

2003-08-28 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:25:27 +0800
Adam Hewitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I got myself an ibook about 6 or 7 weeks ago and although originally I
 was thinking why would anyone want to install linux in this when OS X
 is so cool, and you can run X11 with Fink?...I am beginning to feel
 myself being slowly drawn to install linux on it, like a fly to a bug
 zapper...its so mesmorizing...

He, he, he, ...

 My question is has anyone compared YDL with a debianPPC install and what
 kind of results did you get? At heart I am a great debian fan, I run
 debian on my PC at work, my two servers at home and my desktop at home
 (although not for long...I need my games :( )...but the though of
 installing a distro that was made for my ibook has me interested (that
 and the fact that it comes with apt-rpm installed and configured by
 default aparently)...

Haven't tried YDL but like you I was a committed Debian user long before
I got my iBook. For me, there was simply no good reason to try anything
other than Debian.

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RE: [SLUG] linux on ibook

2003-08-28 Thread Rowling, Jill
The main items I see with running a dual boot system (if that's what you are
thinking of doing) are:

Do you want to transfer software between the two systems? If so, I think you
need to create a small partition specifically for the transfers. MacOS X
can't read EXT3 and I'm not sure if Linux can read HFS(?sp?) properly.

There seem to be some issues with Debian's power management. This is
probably not an issue with the desktop Apple models, but may still be an
issue with the laptops.

The initialisation sequence for Debian X11 on the LCD occasionally goes
awry. The standard fix is to shut down X11 and restart it.

If you are doing a dual boot, the MacOS X major system upgrades can
sometimes confuse themselves and you may have to re-install Linux
afterwards. Just keep everything backed up somewhere.

Other than that it looks very good and performs well (on the Tibook).

Cheers,

Jill.

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To: PLUG
Cc: SLUG
Subject: [SLUG] linux on ibook


Hi All,

I got myself an ibook about 6 or 7 weeks ago and although originally I was
thinking why would anyone want to install linux in this when OS X is so
cool, and you can run X11 with Fink?...I am beginning to feel myself being
slowly drawn to install linux on it, like a fly to a bug zapper...its so
mesmorizing...

My question is has anyone compared YDL with a debianPPC install and what
kind of results did you get? At heart I am a great debian fan, I run debian
on my PC at work, my two servers at home and my desktop at home (although
not for long...I need my games :( )...but the though of installing a distro
that was made for my ibook has me interested (that and the fact that it
comes with apt-rpm installed and configured by default aparently)...

Any comments?

Adam.



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Re: [SLUG] linux on ibook

2003-08-28 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Adam Hewitt

 I got myself an ibook about 6 or 7 weeks ago and although originally I was
 thinking why would anyone want to install linux in this when OS X is so
 cool, and you can run X11 with Fink?...I am beginning to feel myself
 being slowly drawn to install linux on it, like a fly to a bug
 zapper...its so mesmorizing...
 
 My question is has anyone compared YDL with a debianPPC install and what
 kind of results did you get? At heart I am a great debian fan, I run
 debian on my PC at work, my two servers at home and my desktop at home
 (although not for long...I need my games :( )...but the though of
 installing a distro that was made for my ibook has me interested (that and
 the fact that it comes with apt-rpm installed and configured by default
 aparently)...

If you're already a Debian user, you'll almost certainly come back to it
after trying YDL. Not because YDL is a bad distro - it's essentially Red Hat
for PPC, and customised really nicely to the Apple hardware range - but you
get used to the sheer breadth and depth of binary packages available for
Debian; no need to rebuild lots of things from src.rpms...

I recently helped a friend through the process of getting his iBook, using
Mac OS X, then Mac OS X with Fink, then dual booting with YDL, then dual
booting with Debian, then scratching OS X to run Debian with Mac-on-Linux.
Now he's happy. :-)

It's so much nicer running Free Software on a Free OS. ;-)

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Re: [SLUG] linux on ibook

2003-08-28 Thread Steve Lindsay
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

snip
 Any comments?

I'm running yellowdog linux on my ibook which I got a couple of months ago. Getting 
the 
graphics card working with the version of X in debian at the moment (xfree4.2) 
requires some 
work, whereas with yellowdog it was a put the cd in, click a couple of times and 
you're up and 
running kind of thing. I still plan on getting debian running (reasons below), but I 
might wait 
for xfree 4.3 to make it's way into sarge.

Yellowdog is fine (it's basically just redhat rebadged for PPC). It's full of pointy 
clicky 
goodness, it supports all the hardware out of the box (I think the tv out might not 
work, 
never tried it though), it has quite a lot of up to date software distributed with it, 
it looks 
pretty polished. The installation was flawless, the only thing I had to do was switch 
on 
acceleration for the video card (which again was clicking a box, very easy). Has 
apt-rpm, mac-
on-linux, lot's of groovy stuff. Basically it's like all the commerical linux 
offerings now, very 
polished and pretty easy to install.

The only iritation I've had with YDL is getting packages. apt-rpm is fine, but if the 
packages 
don't exist then it's not that useful (not that this has happened a lot, the majority 
of things 
are available). I've actually had to install a couple of things from source again 
which after 
using debian for awhile is really annoying :) Not YDL's problem though really, just 
smaller user 
base, and people like me complaining rather than packaging software.

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Re: [SLUG] linux on ibook

2003-08-28 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Rowling, Jill wrote:
Do you want to transfer software between the two systems? If so, I think you
need to create a small partition specifically for the transfers. MacOS X
can't read EXT3 and I'm not sure if Linux can read HFS(?sp?) properly.

There's been a lot of development recently for HFS+ support, and now
Benjamin Herrenschmidt's kernel tree has support for HFS+ filesystems,
though it's said that write support may break your HFS+ journal.  It
certainly can read from the fs though.

There seem to be some issues with Debian's power management. This is
probably not an issue with the desktop Apple models, but may still be an
issue with the laptops.

The initialisation sequence for Debian X11 on the LCD occasionally goes
awry. The standard fix is to shut down X11 and restart it.

I'm running 2.4.22-ben1 on my tibook IV and the power management and LCD
support is great, I've not seen any of these problems.  I've also just
gotten the DVI out working brilliantly (though not perfect) just in time for
my presentation tomorrow night.

There's a massive userbase on the debian-powerpc mailing list, and though
there's certainly a few YDL and other ppc distro users on there, the core
powermac kernel developer and the powermac radeon X hacker are Debian users,
which may sway your decision ;-)

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[SLUG] targeted virus or paranoia central ?

2003-08-28 Thread voyteke
during last weekend, I received several hundred of the the latest ms
'virus' emails, all about 100k, with about 7 different subjects. on Monday,
the flow slowed down, just maybe a hundred or so all day, and, I assumed
the worst was over, so to speak.

However, between Tuesday and Wed this week, I received in excess of 1,000
emails in say 12 hours, and, when I looked at it in the afternoon, I was
getting one new mssg every minute.

looking at mailboxes of several hundred users, it was only my own email
that was being hit so much, likewise, the admin of email on other servers
where my server is hosted doesn't see *that many* virus hits across his
servers.

Suggestions were made to me that perhaps I was 'targeted' with it ?

- how much of the crap are others getting ?

the actual payload dosn't worry me, but, I don't want to pay for the
traffic, so, in the end, as an interim measure, I've deleted my own email
address (as to refuse this crap at smtp server)

I suppose the only way to stop it, traffic-wise, would be to filter
upstream ?

I thought ms tax only applied when you bought a new PC, seems, ms tax is a
lot broader



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Re: [SLUG] linux on ibook

2003-08-28 Thread Michael Lake
Adam Hewitt wrote:
 I got myself an ibook about 6 or 7 weeks ago and although originally I
 was thinking why would anyone want to install linux in this when OS X
 is so cool, and you can run X11 with Fink?...I am beginning to feel
 myself being slowly drawn to install linux on it, like a fly to a bug
 zapper...its so mesmorizing...

I have OSX and Debian/GNU running on my TiPowerBook. The OSX is all very
nice and flashy (what you call cool) but it is sometimes irksome and 
Debian with a nice window manager and X11 is actually more functional.

OSX Irks:
* Apple's X11 is not integrated well with the rest of OSX. When fire it
up the path is not set properly within OSX and some apps under X11 cant
find other apps that they need to call. E.g. xfig can't import eps figs 
as it cant find ghostscript to rasterise the eps file. gs is there but 
xfig cant find it.
* There are many window operations with no keyboard shortcuts even with
with disability access enabled.
* There are no multiple or virtual desktops.
* Xdvi is poor on OSX.
* There is no firewall yet from Apple but you can get 3rd party ones. 
E.g. to restrict ftp or http access to your box you uncheck the ftp and 
http boxes in Apples firewall gui. What does it do? Set up some rules 
and block incoming on http port? Nope. It simply terminates the ftp and 
http server so you cant then browse local documentation using a web 
browser! Duh.

OSX Pros:
* I like having the OSX available as I know that the application to 
connect to a projector and video sync to it for giving presentations 
will always work but in Linux its more problematic. (I use a common DOS 
partition to swap files)
* One can *browse* Windows networks quite easily from OSX and mount 
Windows shares.
* Quicktime on an OSX desktop is very nice.

 My question is has anyone compared YDL with a debianPPC install and what
 kind of results did you get? At heart I am a great debian fan, 

Debian has excellent support for the ibook. Subscribe to the debian-ppc
mailing list. I havent tried YDL.

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Re: [SLUG] Ping me please!

2003-08-28 Thread Glen Turner
David Fisher wrote:
Would some kind person please try pinging the addresses 202.12.88.42 or 
202.12.88.106 and let me know the results, please?

I need to test the ICMP block on my router from external ping traffic.
Great, another path MTU discovery black hole, another
undiagnosable network.
Fellas, how about using rate limiting.  Linux has marvellous
QoS features, enough to allow a few ICMP ECHOs for fault
diagnosis but to deny a ping flood.
 Note that its probably not a good idea to block ICMP source quench
 packets.
Nah, block those suckers. Source Quench is deprecated.

The list is

  Block
Obsolete
  Source Quench
  Information Request/Reply
  Datagram Conversion
Shouldn't cross network boundary
  Address Mask Request/Reply
  Redirect
  Domain Name
  Router Advertisment/Selection
  Required for operation (rate limit these to, say, 10% of bandwidth)
Destination Unreachable
Time Exceeded
Security Failure
Parameter Problem
  Required for diagnosis (rate limit these to, say, 1% of bandwidth)
Echo Request/Reply
Timestamp Request/Reply
Regards,
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rate limiting Re: [SLUG] Ping me please!

2003-08-28 Thread lists
** Reply to note from Glen Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:39:20 +0930


 Fellas, how about using rate limiting.  Linux has marvellous 
 QoS features, enough to allow a few ICMP ECHOs for fault 
 diagnosis but to deny a ping flood.

where/how to do so ?

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[SLUG] failed kernel update, what next ?

2003-08-28 Thread Voytek
If I already posted this, and there was a reply, I apologize in advance
(but I couldn't find my post nor reply in the archive)

I was atempting to update kernel from RHN with

# up2date -f kernel

whilst I was on ssh connection the the box

before it finished, the SSH dropped with Corrupted MAC on input

I'm assuming that:

if ssh session closes, whatver process was invoked in that session get's
killed ?

it seems I was 59% completed.

what should I do NEXT to asses/ and, recover if needed ?


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Fetching package list for channel: redhat-linux-i386-7.3...
Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: redhat-linux-i386-7.3...
Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies...
  
kernel-2.4.20-20.7.i686.rpm ## Done.
Preparing...### [100%]
  
Installing...
[SSH2] Disconnecting: Corrupted MAC on input.#  ( 59%)
  
[SSH2] INFO: DISCONNECT
 




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Re: [SLUG] targeted virus or paranoia central ?

2003-08-28 Thread David Kempe
Its all sobig.f stuff.
Your experience is similar to mine. Not that I have had my turn in
recieving it, but some customers are getting shiteloads of sobig.f and
other are getting none.
Its all part of the virus's master plan - check a recent slashdot article
on some of the nasty implications. Anyway, its all going to go away soon
as sobig.f will expire. Probably to be replaced by a worse sobig.g.

dave

[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Suggestions were made to me that perhaps I was 'targeted' with it ?

 - how much of the crap are others getting ?

 the actual payload dosn't worry me, but, I don't want to pay for the
 traffic, so, in the end, as an interim measure, I've deleted my own email
 address (as to refuse this crap at smtp server)

 I suppose the only way to stop it, traffic-wise, would be to filter
 upstream ?

 I thought ms tax only applied when you bought a new PC, seems, ms tax is a
 lot broader



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[SLUG] ot: SCSI HD spins down, then, up

2003-08-28 Thread Voytek
I have a couple of SCSI HDs QUANTUM ATLAS_V__9_WLS 0230, IBM DORS-32160W
WA0A as well as scanner, CDROM, CDRW on a AHA 2940UWPro PC (non-Linux)

the system runs 24x7, and, I can't fault it, it runs my voice server, fax
server, etc, etc
I'm on the keyboard between 2 and 5 day/week

so, I can not fault it, BUT, on at leats 2 or 3 ocasiosns whilst I'm here,
suddenly, I can hear one of the SCSI drives spin down, then, within maybe
10 or 15 seconds, the drive spins up again

this is assesed by the brief (lack of) noise
(actually, it quite pleasant when the noise briefly goes down)

has anyone witnessed that sort of wind down/up thing?

the 1st time it happened, i though, 'expl. deleted my drive just died'

BUT, when I walked to it, the noise restarted, and, I couldn't fault it.

any ideas what is it ???
it just happened few minutes ago, hence, this post


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[SLUG] Desperate plea..off-topic: Putty does not show password prompt

2003-08-28 Thread Phil Scarratt
Hi All

This is a desperate plea . . . I have tried Google, comp.security.ssh 
news group, as well as man pages, debug output, logging and seeing what 
the dolphins have to say about it..anyway to the problem...

I regularly log (ssh) into various machines/networks I maintain with 
PuTTY. All has worked really well (for months) up until a yesterday. 
Remote machines are all Linux - RedHat 7.2, 7.3 and 9.0. What happens is 
the session negotiation seems to go ok but then when it comes time to 
display the password prompt on the Putty terminal nothing comes up. I 
suspect something to do with the encryption negotiation (which is I 
think the last thing to be done before password is required). The 
following points apply:
- I use SSH2, with, in order of preference, AES, Blowfish or 3DES 
encryption (have tried all 3 to no avail)
- using SSH1 usually works but not reliably (eg typing rubbish - eg ',c' 
will hang the terminal)
- I can ssh to the remote machines from my own local LINUX RedHat 9 
machine - not a single problem.
- I can SSH into my local linux machine with Putty. My local linux is 
RH9.0 running OpenSSH 3.5p1-6.
- The other remote linux machines are running RH7.2/7.3 with OpenSSH 
2.9p2-7, 3.1p1-3 or 3.1p1-8
- The output of the putt log for the failed connection is:

=~= PuTTY log 2003.08.28 14:01:02 =~=
Event Log: Writing new session log (SSH packets mode) to file: putty.log
Event Log: Looking up host dayang.dnsalias.com
Event Log: Connecting to 203.51.0.93 port 22
Event Log: Server version: SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.1p1
Event Log: We believe remote version has SSH2 RSA padding bug
Event Log: We claim version: SSH-2.0-PuTTY-Release-0.53b
Event Log: Using SSH protocol version 2
Incoming packet type 20 / 0x14 (SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT)
Outgoing packet type 20 / 0x14 (SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT)
Event Log: Doing Diffie-Hellman group exchange
Outgoing packet type 30 / 0x1e (SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST)
Incoming packet type 31 / 0x1f (SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP)
Event Log: Doing Diffie-Hellman key exchange
Outgoing packet type 32 / 0x20 (SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT)
Incoming packet type 33 / 0x21 (SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY)
Event Log: Host key fingerprint is:
Event Log: ssh-rsa 1024 8e:d5:14:83:cc:e4:53:43:58:e9:79:ca:fe:8f:95:bd
Outgoing packet type 21 / 0x15 (SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS)
Incoming packet type 21 / 0x15 (SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS)
Event Log: Initialised zlib (RFC1950) compression
Event Log: Initialised zlib (RFC1950) decompression
Event Log: Initialised AES-256 client-server encryption
Event Log: Initialised AES-256 server-client encryption
Outgoing packet type 5 / 0x05 (SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST)
=~= PuTTY log 2003.08.28 14:01:02 =~=
- The debug output of one of the remote machine openssh server basically 
agrees with the putty log. The last 3 lines of debug output are 
something like:
Outgoing packet SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
Incoming packet SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
KEX

and that's it.

I initially thought it was something on the Windo$e but why would Putty 
keep working with my local machine and not the others. Hence, I'm 
tending towards the OpenSSH server's need upgrading. But if that's the 
case, why would the problem have just surfaced now? I'd like to be 100% 
sure that upgrading is going to fix the problem

Any thoughts whatsoever would be greatly appreciated. Please, no 
comments as to why on earth am I using a Windo$e box at all??? I ask 
myself the same sometimes but at the moment I need to...trust me I've 
looked at it from all angles, but hopefully soon circumstances will 
allow the total expulsion of M$.

TIA
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[SLUG] URGENT: Please help, Mail problem (FROM Field=NOBODY....change?)

2003-08-28 Thread Jared Pritchard
Hi - I'm new to this group, and relatively new to linux
(I work in it every day and have done for the past 8-10months or so - but
it has been all in VI editing HTML  PERL scripts etc. so no specific
linux commands besides the basics)

but now I have reached a point in the PERL scripts that it sends emails
out to a list of users... however, when they receive them, it is addressed
from 'nobody'. We REALLY REALLY need to change that!!!

I use the command 'mail'  in the form
mail -s subject [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /tmp/mailout.$$

I cannot find an option in the 'mail' man pages that allows me to specify
the 'from' section, and I am assuming that it is the 'user' that sends the
email that fills in that position. Maybe the user is guest, or nobody or
whatever - i don't know  :/

How can I change the user or specify the 'from' field in the email without
using a different mailing program? I need it to be admin or something -

If I have to change mail programs, I will opt for sendmail in the short
term, so what I would need the correct syntax to accomplish the same as
above WITH from defined as well  :)  (the man pages for sendmail weren't
much help in this regard)

Any help will be muchly appreciated!!!

Regards,
Jared Pritchard

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Re: [SLUG] URGENT: Please help.../Desperate plea...

2003-08-28 Thread Adam Hewitt
A word of advise...People are less likely to want to help when you
appear to be demanding it of them...

Dont get me wrong, I understand that you are frustrated, possibly been
searching mailing lists, google, IRC, etc with no luck (or maybe you
haven't ;) and this is your last ditch effort. Thats fine, but dont beg.
LUGs seem to be more forgiving that IRC and other places, but it still
puts people off.

Good luck,

Adam.

On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 07:16, Jared Pritchard wrote:
 Hi - I'm new to this group, and relatively new to linux
 (I work in it every day and have done for the past 8-10months or so - but
 it has been all in VI editing HTML  PERL scripts etc. so no specific
 linux commands besides the basics)
 
 but now I have reached a point in the PERL scripts that it sends emails
 out to a list of users... however, when they receive them, it is addressed
 from 'nobody'. We REALLY REALLY need to change that!!!
 
 I use the command 'mail'  in the form
 mail -s subject [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /tmp/mailout.$$
 
 I cannot find an option in the 'mail' man pages that allows me to specify
 the 'from' section, and I am assuming that it is the 'user' that sends the
 email that fills in that position. Maybe the user is guest, or nobody or
 whatever - i don't know  :/
 
 How can I change the user or specify the 'from' field in the email without
 using a different mailing program? I need it to be admin or something -
 
 If I have to change mail programs, I will opt for sendmail in the short
 term, so what I would need the correct syntax to accomplish the same as
 above WITH from defined as well  :)  (the man pages for sendmail weren't
 much help in this regard)
 
 Any help will be muchly appreciated!!!
 
 Regards,
 Jared Pritchard

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Re: [SLUG] failed kernel update, what next ?

2003-08-28 Thread Dave Airlie
do it again.. it should complete.. if ssh crashes again.. get a new SSH
client..

Dave.

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Voytek wrote:

 If I already posted this, and there was a reply, I apologize in advance
 (but I couldn't find my post nor reply in the archive)

 I was atempting to update kernel from RHN with

 # up2date -f kernel

 whilst I was on ssh connection the the box

 before it finished, the SSH dropped with Corrupted MAC on input

 I'm assuming that:

 if ssh session closes, whatver process was invoked in that session get's
 killed ?

 it seems I was 59% completed.

 what should I do NEXT to asses/ and, recover if needed ?


 --
 # up2date -f kernel

 Fetching package list for channel: redhat-linux-i386-7.3...
 Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: redhat-linux-i386-7.3...
 Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies...

 kernel-2.4.20-20.7.i686.rpm ## Done.
 Preparing...### [100%]

 Installing...
 [SSH2] Disconnecting: Corrupted MAC on input.#  ( 59%)

 [SSH2] INFO: DISCONNECT





 Voytek Eymont


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Re: [SLUG] URGENT: Please help.../Desperate plea...

2003-08-28 Thread Anthony Wood
Have a go at setting a From: header in the /tmp/mailout.$$
or changing your sending line to:

(echo From: Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED];cat /tmp/mailout.$$) | mail -s subject [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

which will work if you mail daemon (e.g. postfix) allows setting the from address, 
which you'll
have to get working anyway.

Otherwise have a go at running the script as the user you want the mail to come from.

cheers,
Woody

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:20:35PM +0800, Adam Hewitt wrote:
 A word of advise...People are less likely to want to help when you
 appear to be demanding it of them...
 
 Dont get me wrong, I understand that you are frustrated, possibly been
 searching mailing lists, google, IRC, etc with no luck (or maybe you
 haven't ;) and this is your last ditch effort. Thats fine, but dont beg.
 LUGs seem to be more forgiving that IRC and other places, but it still
 puts people off.
 
 Good luck,
 
 Adam.
 
 On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 07:16, Jared Pritchard wrote:
  Hi - I'm new to this group, and relatively new to linux
  (I work in it every day and have done for the past 8-10months or so - but
  it has been all in VI editing HTML  PERL scripts etc. so no specific
  linux commands besides the basics)
  
  but now I have reached a point in the PERL scripts that it sends emails
  out to a list of users... however, when they receive them, it is addressed
  from 'nobody'. We REALLY REALLY need to change that!!!
  
  I use the command 'mail'  in the form
  mail -s subject [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /tmp/mailout.$$
  
  I cannot find an option in the 'mail' man pages that allows me to specify
  the 'from' section, and I am assuming that it is the 'user' that sends the
  email that fills in that position. Maybe the user is guest, or nobody or
  whatever - i don't know  :/
  
  How can I change the user or specify the 'from' field in the email without
  using a different mailing program? I need it to be admin or something -
  
  If I have to change mail programs, I will opt for sendmail in the short
  term, so what I would need the correct syntax to accomplish the same as
  above WITH from defined as well  :)  (the man pages for sendmail weren't
  much help in this regard)
  
  Any help will be muchly appreciated!!!
  
  Regards,
  Jared Pritchard
 
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Re: [SLUG] targeted virus or paranoia central ?

2003-08-28 Thread Del
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
during last weekend, I received several hundred of the the latest ms
'virus' emails, all about 100k, with about 7 different subjects. on Monday,
the flow slowed down, just maybe a hundred or so all day, and, I assumed
the worst was over, so to speak.
However, between Tuesday and Wed this week, I received in excess of 1,000
emails in say 12 hours, and, when I looked at it in the afternoon, I was
getting one new mssg every minute.
I had the same problem.  It was all coming from one machine at
cornell.edu so I put in a .procmail rule to redirect all mail
with a header Received: (from that machine) line in it back
to the complaints address I found on their web site (which
otherwise wasn't responding when I sent them mail asking them
to fix it).
After that the flood lasted another 2-3 hours then stopped,
all by magick.
I did get whacked with several GB of mail in that time
however, most annoying.
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Re: [SLUG] URGENT: Please help.../Desperate plea...

2003-08-28 Thread Phil Scarratt
...that is I find my problem quite baffling...which probably means that 
it is something really simple I'm missing and tomorrow I'll wake up and 
think a offf course that's the problem...one can only hope 
that'll be the case :)

Phil Scarratt wrote:
Point taken...I usually try not to, but slipped this time. I find it 
really quite baffling.

Fil

Adam Hewitt wrote:

A word of advise...People are less likely to want to help when you
appear to be demanding it of them...
Dont get me wrong, I understand that you are frustrated, possibly been
searching mailing lists, google, IRC, etc with no luck (or maybe you
haven't ;) and this is your last ditch effort. Thats fine, but dont beg.
LUGs seem to be more forgiving that IRC and other places, but it still
puts people off.
Good luck,

Adam.

On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 07:16, Jared Pritchard wrote:

Hi - I'm new to this group, and relatively new to linux
(I work in it every day and have done for the past 8-10months or so - 
but
it has been all in VI editing HTML  PERL scripts etc. so no specific
linux commands besides the basics)

but now I have reached a point in the PERL scripts that it sends emails
out to a list of users... however, when they receive them, it is 
addressed
from 'nobody'. We REALLY REALLY need to change that!!!

I use the command 'mail'  in the form
mail -s subject [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /tmp/mailout.$$
I cannot find an option in the 'mail' man pages that allows me to 
specify
the 'from' section, and I am assuming that it is the 'user' that 
sends the
email that fills in that position. Maybe the user is guest, or nobody or
whatever - i don't know  :/

How can I change the user or specify the 'from' field in the email 
without
using a different mailing program? I need it to be admin or something -

If I have to change mail programs, I will opt for sendmail in the short
term, so what I would need the correct syntax to accomplish the same as
above WITH from defined as well  :)  (the man pages for sendmail weren't
much help in this regard)
Any help will be muchly appreciated!!!

Regards,
Jared Pritchard







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RE: [SLUG] URGENT: Please help.../Desperate plea...

2003-08-28 Thread Low Christopher - clow
Even man Mail might help  :)

J/k.

If you are just using straight mail or mailx the switch you want is '-r
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
eg. 
 mail -r [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Greetings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Unless of course mail is called in a perl script using Net::Mail or
something then there would be a from variable.

C.


 -Original Message-
 From: Anthony Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2003 4:28 PM
 To: Adam Hewitt
 Cc: Jared Pritchard; SLUG; Phil Scarratt
 Subject: Re: [SLUG] URGENT: Please help.../Desperate plea...
 
 
 Have a go at setting a From: header in the /tmp/mailout.$$
 or changing your sending line to:
 
 (echo From: Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED];cat /tmp/mailout.$$) 
 | mail -s subject [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 which will work if you mail daemon (e.g. postfix) allows 
 setting the from address, which you'll have to get working anyway.
 
 Otherwise have a go at running the script as the user you 
 want the mail to come from.
 
 cheers,
 Woody
 
 On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:20:35PM +0800, Adam Hewitt wrote:
  A word of advise...People are less likely to want to help when you 
  appear to be demanding it of them...
  
  Dont get me wrong, I understand that you are frustrated, 
 possibly been 
  searching mailing lists, google, IRC, etc with no luck (or 
 maybe you 
  haven't ;) and this is your last ditch effort. Thats fine, but dont 
  beg. LUGs seem to be more forgiving that IRC and other 
 places, but it 
  still puts people off.
  
  Good luck,
  
  Adam.
  
  On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 07:16, Jared Pritchard wrote:
   Hi - I'm new to this group, and relatively new to 
 linux (I work 
   in it every day and have done for the past 8-10months or 
 so - but it 
   has been all in VI editing HTML  PERL scripts etc. so no 
 specific 
   linux commands besides the basics)
   
   but now I have reached a point in the PERL scripts that it sends 
   emails out to a list of users... however, when they 
 receive them, it 
   is addressed from 'nobody'. We REALLY REALLY need to 
 change that!!!
   
   I use the command 'mail'  in the form
   mail -s subject [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /tmp/mailout.$$
   
   I cannot find an option in the 'mail' man pages that allows me to 
   specify the 'from' section, and I am assuming that it is 
 the 'user' 
   that sends the email that fills in that position. Maybe 
 the user is 
   guest, or nobody or whatever - i don't know  :/
   
   How can I change the user or specify the 'from' field in 
 the email 
   without using a different mailing program? I need it to 
 be admin or 
   something -
   
   If I have to change mail programs, I will opt for sendmail in the 
   short term, so what I would need the correct syntax to accomplish 
   the same as above WITH from defined as well  :)  (the man 
 pages for 
   sendmail weren't much help in this regard)
   
   Any help will be muchly appreciated!!!
   
   Regards,
   Jared Pritchard
  
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Re: [SLUG] targeted virus or paranoia central ?

2003-08-28 Thread Voytek
** Reply to note from Andrew McNaughton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:37:41 
+1200 (NZST)


 We've got a bunch of accounts on our server, but it's only really two 
 addresses that are getting hit particularly hard (down to about 400K/min now). 
 Those accounts are very publicly known.  They're widely publicised contact 
 addresses. 
  
 My guess is that the reason you're being hit hard is because you send your 
 mail address to lots of list subscribers?

Andrew,

that's what I was guessing. I can't say I'm on that many list, probably
only about 10, BUT, a number of them have web archives with full
addresses

I think I'll wait till tommorow before I cautiously re-enable my address 



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Re: [SLUG] URGENT: Please help, Mail problem (FROMField=NOBODY....change?)

2003-08-28 Thread Norman Gaywood
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 04:16:58PM -0700, Jared Pritchard wrote:
 but now I have reached a point in the PERL scripts that it sends emails
 out to a list of users... however, when they receive them, it is addressed
 from 'nobody'. We REALLY REALLY need to change that!!!

Have a read of:

perldoc -q mail

and look for the section How do I send mail?

Cheers.
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Re: [SLUG] Vendor demonstrations at SLUG meetings - what do youthink?

2003-08-28 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Jeff Waugh

 How does everyone feel about having more regular demos such as these? Should
 we actively seek demos of cool products that SLUGgers are interested in?

Mary suggested to the committee that we could have a Show and Tell Forum if
there was interest.

Another question to add to the mix: What would you suggest as interesting
products you'd like to see presented at SLUG? (Remember, products can be
FOSS projects too!)

- Jeff

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[SLUG] importing mail users ?

2003-08-28 Thread Voytek
I'm somewhere along the path of setting web server and mail server on RH73
with Postfix; so far, I've created all the users that have web vhosts, and,
more or less set the Apache vhosts for them.

the web users have no shell access, just ftp, and, /home/%username% is
owned by root

now I'm looking at setting the mail server 

I want to import couple hundred or so users, and, create /home/*/Maildir
structure preferably at same time. I have no data, just users and dir tree
that I need to create.

Whilst Postfix would create the Maildir tree on first mail delivery, that
didn't work for me, as I CHOWNed all /home/user to be owned by root

these uses will be ONLY mail users, no shell, no ftp, just POP3 mail
from some ISP  

- what tool I use to import users ?
- to create desired dir tree ?
- what to use to DISABLE ftp access ? (is that something in need to
do in ProFTPd ?)

should I also CHOWN all /home/username(s) to be owned by root ?

thanks for all suggestions,



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RE: [SLUG] Vendor demonstrations at SLUG meetings - what do you think?

2003-08-28 Thread Rowling, Jill
I would like to see demos.
I can think of a few vendors that have products of interest.
The main thing I would like to see is the product was running Linux.
Not just FOSS, as that can cover a multitude of items.

Examples:  (some of these obviously would have to be a graphical
presentation rather than a demo)

The Beowulf cluster of Sony Playstations;
Sun LX50s (or whatever is replacing them);
IBM mainframes running lots of Linux images
Software vendors who are keen to announce the port of their application to
Linux;
Cyclades devices;
Firewalls - in - a - box (running Linux)
...

Cheers,

Jill.

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Waugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2003 5:12 PM
To: Penguinillas
Subject: [SLUG] Vendor demonstrations at SLUG meetings - what do you think?


Hey gang,

So, every now and then, a hardware or software vendor asks us if we'd be
interested in a demo of their product at our SLUG meetings. Unfortunately,
most of these requests are wildly out of scope, but sometimes there are
really cool ones, like the Sony Playstation development kit demo. We didn't
want to pass that one up. Very on topic, very cool. :-)

Assuming the following points:

  * A vendor demo would almost always replace one of our talks; very rarely
would they be speedy ten minute jobs (and if they were, it's more than
likely that they'd just be uninformative ads, so would not be very
interesting anyway)

  * We'd only accept FOSS-related or otherwise on topic demos

  * We'd encourage a technical and/or community focus, rather than a
marketing or advertising focus, so hopefully the demo would feel just
like a normal SLUG talk anyway (the Sony one was pretty good in this
respect)

How does everyone feel about having more regular demos such as these? Should
we actively seek demos of cool products that SLUGgers are interested in? Let
us know what you think!

Thanks,

- Jeff

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RE: [SLUG] Vendor demonstrations at SLUG meetings - what do yout hink?

2003-08-28 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On 28/08/2003 6:04 PM +1000, Rowling, Jill wrote:

[...]

Examples:  (some of these obviously would have to be a graphical
presentation rather than a demo)
The Beowulf cluster of Sony Playstations;
Sun LX50s (or whatever is replacing them);
IBM mainframes running lots of Linux images
Software vendors who are keen to announce the port of their application to
Linux;
Cyclades devices;
Firewalls - in - a - box (running Linux)
How about Email/Groupware Collaboration solutions aimed at replacing or 
providing an alternative to Exchange? such as Bynari, Samsung Contact, etc. 
Maybe vendors could pay a fee to demonstrate their product at SLUG 
meetings? (of course this would go towards the SLUG bank account)

Regards,
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[SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?

2003-08-28 Thread Voytek
I'm hoping someone here can help:

can SquirelMail run with only Postfix and /Maildir, no IMAP, no POP, like,
accessing mail from /Maildir  ...?

I keep getting
--
SquirrelMail version 1.4.1-0.2.7.x
By the SquirrelMail Development Team
ERROR
Error connecting to IMAP server: localhost.
111 : Connection refused
Go to the login page
--

I do not have IMAP, and, aim to install POP, but, at this time don't have
POP either

must I have IMAP or POP before I can use it ?

the /etc/squirelmail config seems to only have setting for IMAP,
but not for POP, can it work with POP ?

sorry for asking lot of perhaps trivial Qs, BUT, I have been trying to look up docs on 
SquirellMail, but, can't get on, it
seems the squirrelmail.org server is devoid of some files at this point:

http://www.squirrelmail.org/
Fatal error: Failed opening required 
'/home/groups/s/sq/squirrelmail/includes/constants.inc' (include_path='') in 
/home/groups/s/sq/squirrelmail/includes/std_header.inc on line 5

and, the archive I have doesn't seem to have much in the way of config


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Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?

2003-08-28 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Voytek

 can SquirelMail run with only Postfix and /Maildir, no IMAP, no POP, like,
 accessing mail from /Maildir  ...?

No. If you need to do that, you might want to try sqwebmail.

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Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?

2003-08-28 Thread John Clarke
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:35:26PM +, Voytek wrote:

 can SquirelMail run with only Postfix and /Maildir, no IMAP, no POP, like,
 accessing mail from /Maildir  ...?

No, it needs an imap server.

 sorry for asking lot of perhaps trivial Qs, BUT, I have been trying to look up docs 
 on SquirellMail, but, can't get on, it
 seems the squirrelmail.org server is devoid of some files at this point:
 
 http://www.squirrelmail.org/
 Fatal error: Failed opening required 
 '/home/groups/s/sq/squirrelmail/includes/constants.inc' (include_path='') in 
 /home/groups/s/sq/squirrelmail/includes/std_header.inc on line 5

Use Google's cache:


http://google.com/search?query=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.squirrelmail.org%2Fwiki%2FSquirrelMailRequirements

The cached copy is a little broken too but it's mostly readable.


Cheers,

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[SLUG] radius monitoring

2003-08-28 Thread Adam Hewitt
Hi All,

Does anyone know of a program or configuration option that allows the
rotation of ports using Cistron Radius? ie. if you have 50 ports, and 49
people are logged on, when number 50 connects, the person who has been
logged on the longest gets booted automatically??

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[SLUG] KDE World Clock on Red Hat 9.0

2003-08-28 Thread BigBox2



I am an extremely new Linux user (only installed it for the first time a 
couple of weeks ago), and I am enjoying what I believe to be the best O/S I have 
ever seen.

I am running the application KDE World Clock on Red Hat 9.0 Xwindows (very 
nice), but no matter which country/city I put the mouse cursor over, it shows 
the same time (Sydney Australia).Does anyone know how to configure it so 
it shows the correct time zone for each city/country ?
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Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?

2003-08-28 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On 28/08/2003 6:35 PM +, Voytek wrote:

I'm hoping someone here can help:
I must introduce you to www.google.com{.au}. It is an extremely good search 
engine and has the answers to a lot of your questions. :)

can SquirelMail run with only Postfix and /Maildir, no IMAP, no POP, like,
accessing mail from /Maildir  ...?
Well, if you wanted to access Maildir directories directly it would require 
the web server to have access to everyone's mailboxes. Not very secure is 
it. I'm not sure if there are other reasons, but this alone is a good 
reason not to implement such functionality.

I do not have IMAP, and, aim to install POP, but, at this time don't have
POP either
Why is installing an IMAP server such a problem?

must I have IMAP or POP before I can use it ?
Yes, you need IMAP. There is a POP3 plugin for Squirrelmail but I think 
it's only for fetching mail from other POP3 servers once you are logged in.

the /etc/squirelmail config seems to only have setting for IMAP,
but not for POP, can it work with POP ?
See above.

sorry for asking lot of perhaps trivial Qs, BUT, I have been trying to
look up docs on SquirellMail, but, can't get on, it seems the
squirrelmail.org server is devoid of some files at this point:
Squirrelmail.org is down, yes, but Google isn't. :)

Regards,
Gonzalo.
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Re: [SLUG] URGENT: Please help, Mail problem (FROMField=NOBODY....change?)

2003-08-28 Thread Oscar Plameras

One approach is to format each line command as follows:

su  username -c mail -s subject [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /tmp/mailout.$$

This assumes your system knows to append '@mydomain.com'  to
yield '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and you are running in super shell.

Oscar Plameras
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- Original Message -
From: Jared Pritchard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 4:16 PM
Subject: [SLUG] URGENT: Please help, Mail problem (FROM
Field=NOBODYchange?)


 Hi - I'm new to this group, and relatively new to linux
 (I work in it every day and have done for the past 8-10months or so - but
 it has been all in VI editing HTML  PERL scripts etc. so no specific
 linux commands besides the basics)

 but now I have reached a point in the PERL scripts that it sends emails
 out to a list of users... however, when they receive them, it is addressed
 from 'nobody'. We REALLY REALLY need to change that!!!

 I use the command 'mail'  in the form
 mail -s subject [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /tmp/mailout.$$

 I cannot find an option in the 'mail' man pages that allows me to specify
 the 'from' section, and I am assuming that it is the 'user' that sends the
 email that fills in that position. Maybe the user is guest, or nobody or
 whatever - i don't know  :/

 How can I change the user or specify the 'from' field in the email without
 using a different mailing program? I need it to be admin or something -

 If I have to change mail programs, I will opt for sendmail in the short
 term, so what I would need the correct syntax to accomplish the same as
 above WITH from defined as well  :)  (the man pages for sendmail weren't
 much help in this regard)

 Any help will be muchly appreciated!!!

 Regards,
 Jared Pritchard


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[SLUG] Monthly Meeting 29 August 2003 (Tomorrow)

2003-08-28 Thread Jan Schmidt
Sydney Linux Users' Group Monthly Meeting: August
   
When: Friday, August 29, 6:30pm - 9:00pm (tomorrow night)
Where: UTS Broadway http://www.slug.org.au/events/uts.html

   SLUG's monthly meeting, featuring general talks, special interest
   talks and SLUGlets.

   Open to the public and free of charge. The rooms this month are
   1.04.06 - the entry level of building 1 at UTS. See the map link
   above. (Room 2.04.11 for SLUGlets)

   Note: Members should bring their membership cards this month, as we'll
   be voting on the SLUG logo competition entries. See here for the
   submissions. Entries will also be shown at the meeting.

   General Talk
   Jeff Waugh - Firewalls when you have better things to do.
   Following on from last month's IPtables talk, this month discusses
   helper apps and other methods for easing the pain of configuring
   IPtables by insulating you from it.

   Technical Talk
   Jamie Wilkinson - Testing and Maintaining Multiple Distributions with
   UML
   Using User Mode Linux to host Linux distributions for testing and
   maintenance.

   As usual, SLUGlets will be running in a nearby room during the 2nd
   half of the meeting for those who do not wish to attend the technical
   talk.

   6:30pm: Doors Open

   6:45pm: The Usual Suspects
  QA - Introduction to SLUG + What has Linux done for/to me
  lately? + SLUG News  Discussion

   7:00pm: SLUG logo competition voting
   7:25pm: General Talk
  Jeff Waugh - Firewalls when you have better things to do

   8:10pm: Break
  Refreshments in the foyer, for a small covering charge.

   8:30pm: Split into two groups for:

  + Jamie Wilkinson - Testing and Maintaining Multiple
Distributions with UML
  + SLUGlets: quick talks and discussion of Linux and Free
Software. This month, discussion of kernel compilation.

   Dinner
  Dinner at Spice Boys (Indian), $20 per head.

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Re: [SLUG] targeted virus or paranoia central ?

2003-08-28 Thread Bret Comstock Waldow
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 02:36, Del wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  during last weekend, I received several hundred of the the latest ms
  'virus' emails, all about 100k, with about 7 different subjects. on Monday,
  the flow slowed down, just maybe a hundred or so all day, and, I assumed
  the worst was over, so to speak.
  
  However, between Tuesday and Wed this week, I received in excess of 1,000
  emails in say 12 hours, and, when I looked at it in the afternoon, I was
  getting one new mssg every minute.
 
 I had the same problem.  It was all coming from one machine at
 cornell.edu so I put in a .procmail rule to redirect all mail
 with a header Received: (from that machine) line in it back
 to the complaints address I found on their web site (which
 otherwise wasn't responding when I sent them mail asking them
 to fix it).
 
 After that the flood lasted another 2-3 hours then stopped,
 all by magick.

Newbie question here.  Is this definitive?

I've read that this virus spoofs the return address, which I understand
to mean the text, but what about the IP chain?

I've read in separate articles about untraceable spam.  Is this
happening here?

If there's a definitive way to be sure of the origin of an email, I'd
like to know that's so, and how to determine it.

Thanks,
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Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?

2003-08-28 Thread Stuart Guthrie
I think it needs IMAP. 

Stu

On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 04:35, Voytek wrote:
 I'm hoping someone here can help:
 
 can SquirelMail run with only Postfix and /Maildir, no IMAP, no POP, like,
 accessing mail from /Maildir  ...?
 
 I keep getting
 --
 SquirrelMail version 1.4.1-0.2.7.x
 By the SquirrelMail Development Team
 ERROR
 Error connecting to IMAP server: localhost.
 111 : Connection refused
 Go to the login page
 --
 
 I do not have IMAP, and, aim to install POP, but, at this time don't have
 POP either
 
 must I have IMAP or POP before I can use it ?
 
 the /etc/squirelmail config seems to only have setting for IMAP,
 but not for POP, can it work with POP ?
 
 sorry for asking lot of perhaps trivial Qs, BUT, I have been trying to look up docs 
 on SquirellMail, but, can't get on, it
 seems the squirrelmail.org server is devoid of some files at this point:
 
 http://www.squirrelmail.org/
 Fatal error: Failed opening required 
 '/home/groups/s/sq/squirrelmail/includes/constants.inc' (include_path='') in 
 /home/groups/s/sq/squirrelmail/includes/std_header.inc on line 5
 
 and, the archive I have doesn't seem to have much in the way of config
 
 
 Voytek Eymont

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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX question, Linux command.

2003-08-28 Thread Angus Lees
At Mon, 25 Aug 2003 17:41:14 +1000, Michael Lake wrote:
 Bill Bennett wrote:
  I was going to use a .jpg file in a figure in a LaTeX document,
  on the grounds that an.eps file would be too big.
 
 I don't have my cp of Goosens here to look up the graphics rule but it 
 looks like you are wanting to use latex and generate postscript. An eps 
 is not necessarily too big. Both convert and jpg2eps (which might even 
 already be on your system as it comes with many teTeX distributions) 
 just encapsulates the binary jpg and it wont be much bigger at all than 
 the jpg. Then you wont need the graphics rule at all.

.. also if you're aiming for postscript output, the jpg will have to
be converted to postscript at some point in the process.

(iirc, PDF can embed a jpg directly so thats a different story)

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Re: [SLUG] Perl5.8 installed;Apt preconfigures, but fails to install.

2003-08-28 Thread Angus Lees

Dude, you've hosed your system.


At this point you can either:

 restore from backups (*ahem*)

 try to undo whatever you did (iirc you moved /usr and /lib somewhere
 else)

 try to duplicate exactly what Debian had put in those directories by
 hand (almost impossible)

 or save what data you can and reinstall.

The choice is yours, but I know what I would have done by now.


At Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:52:32 +1200, Adam Bogacki wrote:
 In sum, I'm starting to contemplate reinstalling Debian, something I
 am prepared to go to lengths to avoid because I would lose a lot of
 hard-won material, because I'm living with an 80 yr old who is only
 starting to get over her computer-phobia, and because I also have
 other things to do.

Where/what is this hard-won material?

Just copy your important data off somewhere temporarily (maybe just
another partition) and reinstall.

The alternative is going to be *weeks* of hand hacking stuff.  If
you'd simply reinstalled you'd be done by now.

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[SLUG] Evolution Question

2003-08-28 Thread Stuart Guthrie
Has anyone managed to add a program to the list of things that can open
mail attachments of specific file types in Evolution emails.

I'm talking about the 'open in electronic eyes' 'open in open office'
options you get when you click on the attachment in Evolution.


Stu

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