Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Modifying title and artist on stream
Jos Geluk wrote: > I listen to apolloradio.de a lot. This station does not send title and > artist info on the stream; instead, they send their slogan "bleiben Sie > anders" as title and "apollo radio" as artist. However, they have a web > page (apolloradio.de/titelsuche) from which it is relatively easy to > scrape the info. I'd like to somehow overwrite the stream title and > artist with this info from the web, so the correct info will be > displayed on my players. > > Is that in any way possible? Is there a variable somewhere, or a > database field, that I can overwrite? Any ideas will be appreciated. > > Edit: I run Logitechmediaserver on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, with MySQL as the > database. > > Jos Paul Webster's Radio Now Playing plugin may be able to do what you want. You can read about the plugin here: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-Announce-Radio-Now-Playing-plugin=1034352=1#post1034352 And you can add a request for apolloradio.de to that thread. Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117269 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] NEW MUSIC folder: Possibly to only see NAS library
RobbH wrote: > Since you are using the Default web interface > (no need to repeat all those instructions here) Just to clarify: I am in no way suggesting that you should ignore Jim's (d6jg) recommendation of Material Skin. It is, in many ways, a superior LMS interface. I still find the default interface useful for some tasks, especially managing Settings, but as Jim already pointed out, most settings are also available in Material. By all means, do try Material skin, but if you would rather delay that until you've found a solution to your New Music issue, I wanted to be sure you know it's possible to create and use Library Views without having to install Material. Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117219 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] NEW MUSIC folder: Possibly to only see NAS library
sdiesel77 wrote: > Hi Robert, > My view is different in Spotty LMS (web or mobile interface) and I don't > see these options. > Since you are using the Default web interface, you can open the Settings page, choose the Advanced tab, and select, Online Music Library Integration from the dropdown list. The Library Views options that Robert suggested are available there. Select the "Local Tracks Only" option there (and the other one, too, if you want, but that's not what we're concerned with here) and click the "Apply" button. In order to use the Library View you just created, you may need to go to your Player options tab in Settings, and be sure that "Library Views" is checked under "Additional Browse Modes." Back on the LMS home page, under My Music, click "Library Views" and select the one you just created. Once that's done you will be using a subset of your music library, which includes no online tracks. New Music should reflect that. Remember, when you DO want to use online music, you will have to go back to Library Views and select "All." Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117219 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS seems to not open ports anymore
Marsupial wrote: > Thanks Robbh. > > I am starting to believe the applet is a lost cause. I am thinking of > phasing out of jivelite and use something else to display player status > on this specific player. I think you'll find lots of people in these forums prefer Material skin as a display and control interface. It does require a browser. Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116946 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] UK BBC Local Radio Stream problems
rockhopper wrote: > BBC Sounds is not in my list of 3rd-party plug-ins. I have "Show All > 3rd-Party Plugsins" set on. :confused: What version of LMS are you running? >From https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_BBC_Sounds_Plugin/wiki: > You will need an LMS installation of version 7.9.1 or higher (7.9.3 > recommended) Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117043 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.3.0 dependency problems with libcrypt-openssl-rsa-perl on my Raspberry Pi
andifor wrote: > Great, thanks a lot! I'll give it a try. But as aptitude was not able to > resolve / download the missing package, I'm still a little sceptic about > the result. I'll try anyway, tomorrow (o: This is bound to be a bit confusing, but "aptitude" is not the same thing as "apt." Since you have already used dpkg and the new version was installed, but not configured, I suggest you just run this command: Code: sudo apt-get install -f (Note: that's "apt-get," not "apt" or "aptitude"!) The apt-get command is largely deprecated, now that "apt" is available, But that version of the command should fix a broken installation, if the dependencies are available. That's the way I installed the new beta of LMS 8.4. You mentioned earlier, "I might have to update my Raspberry some time in the near future." What OS version is it currently running, and do you regularly update packages? Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117013 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS seems to not open ports anymore
Marsupial wrote: > today I made the move and installed another pi, another SD, another > instance of LMS. > > first page when we install, you're supposed to login mysqueezebox.com - > I had skipped this last time. > > So, now, I can connect to mysqueezebox and have the added options. I > also have a valid response to license manager. > > > > yet, I still cannot make custom clock applet to work. the behaviour > remains the same. You're off to a good start. You may or may not be able to get this applet to work. It is old and no longer supported. But my guess is that you are most likely to get some useful advice if you post in the thread devoted to the applet: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?68269-Announce-Custom-Clock-applet-for-Touch-Radio-Controller Most recent activity there was about a year ago. As always, good luck! Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116946 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS seems to not open ports anymore
Marsupial wrote: > This issue arose on an already new installation. New pi, new SD card. > New version of LMS. The main difference is the LMS version (and me > remembering what to configure) > > While I can redo the whole installation again, I need to set time aside > to do so, it won't be this week. I'm sure this experience has been horribly frustrating. I've been in similar situations. Sometimes when I'm stuck on something that just isn't working, it helps to shift my attention to something else for a while. Unfortunately, that doesn't work well if I've turned my attention to something that depends on the very problem I haven't been able to solve yet. That's exactly what I've done many times, and it appears to be what you've been doing, when you start working on plugins before you've been able to get LMS to connect to mysqueezebox.com. When you do find the time to work on this again, above all else, try to be patient with yourself. Hurrying hardly ever helps. Work on one thing at a time, getting help from the knowledgeable people here before you try to move on to the next step. And again, good luck to you! Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116946 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS seems to not open ports anymore
Marsupial wrote: > There was one bad sourceforge link in my plugin tab that has been > resolved. Other than that the plugins can reach various sites to fetch > data and links. I can reach webradios, weather, rss feeds, sports > results... Everything works. > > The only issue seems to be with mysb. > > What else can I test? Apologies if I'm overlooking something, but as far as I can tell, you have not done what Ronnie suggested in post #44: Code: How about; make a clean install of LMS on either a clean SD card or another computer. If a SD card, install only LMS, nothing else. When you log into this LMS for the first time, fill in your mysqueezebox.com credentials on the first page, skip everything else. Do not add any Plugins On the LMS GUI Home page, with a player selected, Go to Extras > Music Source > and select mysqueezebox.com. see what happens In other words, address the mysqueezebox.com issue without any plugins added. Once that's resolved, started adding your plugins, one by one. Restart LMS and check mysqueezebox after each one. Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116946 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS seems to not open ports anymore
Marsupial wrote: > Although, the questions he asks to see if it is, are definitely answered > negatively, with other examples. > > If the server could not do outgoing connections, none of the outgoing > connections would work. > > They all do. > > So, yeah. I did not ignore him, but answered his questions. > > Thanks for your concerns. Yes, you have demonstrated that the machine in question can make outgoing connections. Does that also disprove Michael's analysis that your installation of LMS is not able to make outgoing connections? I don't know enough to say. But I do think it's likely that the source of your problems is somewhere in your old settings and unsupported plugins. A clean start on a fresh SD card is likely to get you a working installation of LMS. After that, you may or may not be able to recreate all the customizations you are accustomed to, but if not, you should be able to come up with a configuration that meets your needs and makes it possible to enjoy your music again. Isn't that the main thing you want? Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116946 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS seems to not open ports anymore
mherger wrote: > You have a networking issue. LMS can't do outgoing connections. This is > > not limited to MySB integration, but plugins fail to get data, too Marsupial wrote: > > I do not believe the problem is a generalized network issue, but may be > wrong Michael doesn't know everything, but he knows more, a LOT more, than those of us who enjoy using LMS and Squeezebox gear without participating in development. You ignore his advice at your peril. If he has examined your log and concluded that LMS can't do outgoing connections, there is at least a 99% chance that he is correct. Rather than distracting yourself with side issues that may be irrelevant, your best bet is to focus on what is preventing LMS from connecting with msb.com and other other sources, when other software on the same machine is making outgoing connections. I do not know enough to help, but my best guess is that Ronnie's suggestion of trying a clean start is the way to go. I know, I know, you don't want to go through the trouble of reconfiguring everything. I've made the same mistake, many times, and I'll probably do it again. But this thread is now eleven days old, and your first post says you had already had the problem a week or more. I suspect that if you start from scratch with a new SD card and a clean install of LMS, you will have a working system within 24 hours. It might take a few more days after that to get everything working the way you want, but nowhere near as long as it's been since your problems started. In any case, and whatever path you choose, good luck! Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116946 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS seems to not open ports anymore
Man in a van wrote: > > The Licence Manager Plugin is very old, is it still supported and do you > need it ? I have no idea what it is for :( I think that's for Erland's plugins, and it is no longer needed. Erland's plugins are no longer supported, but some still work, presumably without the license manager, since they are now free. Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116946 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Year of an album
slartibartfast wrote: > I only have one album with date tags for each track and the album takes > the date from the first track rather than the last track [emoji2] > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Very curious! I just checked again, and the first nine compilation albums I found with track date tags from different years all used the date from the final track as the album date. LMS 8.3, latest build as of today, running on Raspberry Pi OS. I wonder if anything in Settings could cause the inconsistent behavior? Or maybe a plugin? Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116936 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Scanner logs
mherger wrote: > AFAIK LMS doesn't provide a logrotate configuration. It must have been > rotated by some default job. mrw wrote: > The Debian package does. I dont know about other platforms. Its in > Slimserver platforms > I have LMS running on a Raspberry Pi, using the Debian-based Raspberry Pi OS. So I modified the file, /etc/logrotate.d/logitechmediaserver After changing the scanner.log settings from "weekly" to "daily" and "size 200k" to "size 10k", I now have a backup of each day's scanner log. After five days, the oldest will be deleted each day. I don't think there is any advantage to this, in most cases. There may be situations in which it's helpful to be able to refer to previous scanner logs, but I think that's a rare occurrence. In any case, it can be done, if it's needed. Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116875 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Scanner logs
mrw wrote: > The clue does not show what you think it does. > > What it almost certainly shows is that, on a number of days, your > scanner logs exceeded 200k in size. And that logrotate duly rotated them > as instructed, but before the next time the background scanner ran. > > LMS erases the scanner log each time it starts a background scan, and > has done for for more years than I have fingers. But if it has already > been rotated, then there is nothing to erase ! > > Perhaps you had set some unusually verbose logging options for the > period in question. > > But it is, I think, an unintended result. Perhaps LMS logrotate > configuration might be modified so as not to rotate the scanner log. > Refer to the installed configuration file in /etc/logrotate.d. I dont > think Id bother changing it. Thanks for that very enlightening explanation. As often happens, what I saw led me to a conclusion that was "simple, obvious... and wrong!" Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116875 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Scanner logs
In 'another thread' (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99132-Call-for-testers!-Daphile=1062139=1#post1062139) this exchange caught my attention: > > Is there a way to have scanner.log contain multiple days of info, or > > does it always only contain the most recent scan? > > Unfortunately it's overwritten with every scan run. That was Michael, responding to user markm's question. The answer surprised me, because I was certain that I had seen five previous scanner logs gzipped in the same directory, the same as with the server logs. And I was right: Code: 42500 Sep 30 04:29 scanner.log 94319 Apr 14 2021 scanner.log.1.gz 94267 Apr 13 2021 scanner.log.2.gz 94031 Apr 12 2021 scanner.log.3.gz 94085 Apr 11 2021 scanner.log.4.gz 93993 Apr 10 2021 scanner.log.5.gz Now that I open my eyes enough to see what's there, it's obvious that logrotate stopped processing scanner logs in April of last year. I assume that was a deliberate change, and I am sure there must have been a good reason for it. But I can't think what that reason might have been, and I am curious, so I would be grateful if someone would explain it. This is just a matter of my own curiosity, trying to understand how things work. It is not a criticism or complaint! currently running 8.3 (8.2 in April 2021) on Raspberry Pi OS. Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116875 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on a Raspberry Pi (DietPi): Setup help
darwinesque wrote: > That still leaves updating to the 8.3 nightlies. Anyone know the > commands for that? I'm guessing it's something involving wget and dpkg, > but I'm not sure of the specifics. There are some regular users of these forums who use DietPi, but since they haven't chimed in yet, I'll try to help. This is what works for me on another Debian-based distro. First of all, go to this page: http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=8.3 Find the link there for "Debian Installer Package (ARM)". At the moment it's http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/8.3/lms/23526b093d880ef93fa71ff2480496e8c5948c37/logitechmediaserver_8.3.0~1649774106_arm.deb but that will change. To download it, I cd to the directory where I want it to download and then use this command (using the above url, which may need to be updated): Code: wget -nc -nd http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/8.3/lms/23526b093d880ef93fa71ff2480496e8c5948c37/logitechmediaserver_8.3.0~1649774106_arm.deb (The -nc option tells wget not to overwrite an existing file, while the -nd tells it not to recreate the original directory structure.) Then this to install (using the package name from the above url, which may need to be updated): Code: sudo dpkg -i logitechmediaserver_8.3.0~1649774106_arm.deb It is likely that errors will be reported. In that case (and frankly, I would do this step even if no errors are reported), do this: Code: sudo apt-get install -f That should correct any dependency issues. If luck is on your side, it might get LMS running for you. If not, wait for actual DietPi users to correct me! In your original post, you also mentioned this: > The Pi runs 24-7 but the NAS powers off between midnight and 6am. Is > that likely to cause problems with the mount? I think so. If LMS sees that the music library has disappeared, you will probably have to re-scan before you can use it again. I think your best bet would be to set up cron jobs to stop LMS shortly before midnight and start it shortly after 6:00. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116247 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Play start when powering on synchronized device
nickey wrote: > Two of the devices I powered on became visible in the sync group but > then nothing further happened, i.e. playback continued uninterrupted on > the existing devices. When I hit pause and then play again, playback > resumed from where it left off...this time including the new device! > This is the way it works for me, too. I usually let the currently-playing track finish, then pause for a few seconds before the next one begins. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116241 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I broke LMS, How did I do it?, Can I fix without reinstalling?
Redrum wrote: > I don't have the cache for duct tape :) > > Jim Gaffer tape works much better, but it requires a little more cache. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116190 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I broke LMS, How did I do it?, Can I fix without reinstalling?
It's great that you are able to take a rational approach to this, Jim. It IS an intriguing puzzle, and viewing it as such puts you at an advantage. If it were my system, I would probably be in a panic to get a non-essential feature working again. Since it's not my system, I can view your issue as a puzzle, too. And that's the sense in which I keep offering my suggestions: not as desperation measures, but as tools that might turn up something interesting or useful. I have found a few times that when seemingly unexplainable things happened with LMS, plugins were the source of the problem. Some plugin was trying to use obsolete data and confusing the entire system by it, to put it in non-techno speak. One thing I've found useful is to search the plugins folders for any references that might be connected to the problem. In this case, I would ssh into pCP, go to the plugins directory and run this command: Code: grep -ir paradise * That should do a recursive, case-insensitive search through all files in the current directory and any subdirectories for any reference to "paradise." I don't run LMS on pCP, so I can't test this entirely. But I did ssh into a player-only installation of pCP and the grep command seemed to be capable of the job. Good luck and happy hunting! LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116190 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I broke LMS, How did I do it?, Can I fix without reinstalling?
Jim, have you cleared the playlist/queue on EVERY player in your system, including any group players? If not, that might be worth a try. (Not that I'm holding out a lot of hope...) LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116190 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I broke LMS, How did I do it?, Can I fix without reinstalling?
Lots of references to Radio Paradise streams in that log, but that's to be expected, if you were trying to reload them. The log begins with a reboot at 12:39 pm on March 28. I don't know enough to say if the errors in the log tell us anything useful. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116190 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I broke LMS, How did I do it?, Can I fix without reinstalling?
This reminds me of the issues I encountered at some point, which I mentioned in the Radio Now Playing thread, but it's not exactly the same. In my case, rebooting the Pi fixed the problem. That was on a Pi running the Raspberry Pi OS, not pCP. I wish I had some constructive ideas for you. As it is, all I can do is pass along some random thoughts and things I might try, without any good reason. In the current server log, do you find any references to the RP streams at times when they should not be in the queue? Rather than trying to reload the RP streams, can you put some local files in the queue, let them play through, and after play ends, reboot the pCP? Before you resort to rebuilding the system from scratch, it might be interesting to try re-installing LMS as an upgrade or downgrade and see if that makes any difference. That's all pretty much irrational experimentation, just in case something should happen to work. Things I would try in the absence of any good ideas. I hope you find something that helps! LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116190 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I broke LMS, How did I do it?, Can I fix without reinstalling?
Redrum wrote: > I'm afraid it only has logs from after I broke it, illustrating my > subsequent thrashing around... > Jim Are older logs available? I don't know if piCorePlayer handles logs differently, but many Linux distros keep zipped versions of older logs for some time. Here's what I find in the log folder on RaspberryPiOS: server.log server.log.1.gz server.log.2.gz server.log.3.gz server.log.4.gz server.log.5.gz LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116190 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to add an album from Qobuz to Favorites?
kristina wrote: > Thanks. Thats helpful. So theres no way of doing this without a > rescan? With Tidal, you can do this very easily. It depends on your settings. If you have the Online Music Library Integration plugin set to "automatically check for changes" on Qobuz, then you shouldn't have to do anything to add the new Qobuz favorite to your library. But if not, you would need to rescan, but the "only scan online music library" should suffice. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116167 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to add an album from Qobuz to Favorites?
kristina wrote: > Im pretty sure Ive accomplished this before, but for the life of me I > cant seem to figure out how to add an album in Qobuz to my LMS > Favorites. I get how to favorite something within Qobuz, and I also see > that its easy to add individual tracks from Qobuz to LMS Favorites. Im > running LMS 8.3.0. I commonly use Material Skin or Squeezepad as > controllers. Thanks for your help! I assume you are using the Online Music Library Integration plugin. If so, once you have added an album to your Qobuz favorites and rescanned, you can then navigate to that album in My Music. Clicking on the three-button menu for the album, you should see "Add to favorites" in the dropdown list. I just tested this in Material, and it works. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116167 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] new bug? some listings showing tracks twice: *.flac and *.cur
gorman wrote: > Forgot to reply here. No, no single flac file for an album. They are all > multiple flac. The cue file exist only as a byproduct of the ripping > process I follow. There has been some recent discussion of this in 'another thread' (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?116062-Cue-files-and-cur-files=1049397=1#post1049397). Michael is looking into it but I'm sure he has much more pressing issues to deal with. Apparently the .cur files do serve some purpose, but they are supposed be hidden instead of appearing in the library. You say that your cue files are a byproduct of the ripping process. Does that mean that you are not actually using them in managing and accessing your library? If so, I think it makes sense to continue to rename them, so that LMS will not see them as cue files. Simply renaming "myfile.cue" to "myfile.cue.txt" seems to be enough. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113999 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Cue files and .cur files
RobbH wrote: > > I have a zip file of an album to upload, but your dropbox link does not > seem to be working for me. > Never mind about that! It finally occurred to me the dropbox url might be easily corre. So the zip file is uploading now. It contains a cue file and flac files that consistently generate cur files with a slightly different album title than the one used by the cue file. Thanks for looking into this, Michael. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116062 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Cue files and .cur files
bpa wrote: > What format are the track files ? Are they flac or WAV ? > > If they are flac, can you run "metaflac --list" on two of the tracks - > to check if they have en embedded cuesheet ans whether all tracks on the > album are mentioned even though it is a single track. > > The output from Sound-juicer ripping a CD generate a file per track but > it has the cuesheet for the *whole* album embedded into each track. So > after scanning each album is shown with the tracks duplicated even > though there is only one file per track. > > Lots of errors when the album is scanned but no appearance of "cur" The files in question are flac, and I was absolutely certain that I did not have embedded cuesheets in them. Of course, that means it was very likely that unknown cuesheets were lurking in some of those files. But I have now checked several of the problem albums, and I have not found any embedded cuesheets. I have never used Sound Juicer, but I did try embedded cue sheets at some time. I was not happy with the way they worked. One thing I discovered during this test is that metaflac does not read symlinks. It has to be run on the target file. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116062 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Cue files and .cur files
bpa wrote:
> I don't use cue file but I got involved in a bug which started the
> recent cycle. It's been a while since I waded through CUE code.
>
> Some of the recent problem may come from "bad" applications like
> Ubuntu/Debian SoundJuicer which make it easy to rip a CD into a file per
> track with metadata etc - however it embeds a cuesheet into all the
> track files. !! So now after LMS changes, it is becoming clear to user
> that they have "bad" cue files in their library
>
> cur files are not a way to flag an error as can be seen in code below.
>
> IIRC
> LMS expects cue sheets (etiher embedded or separate) files to be used
> with a *single* WAV or Flac file as all comments talk of a basefile.
> LMS to handle cuesheet wth a single file so LMS creates virtual track
> which have a content type of cur (not 100% sure of this).
> I think the LMS code was written not expecting that there would be a
> different real file associated with the "virtual track" and so other
> parts of the processing such as displaying cur file may be a side
> effect.
>
>
> from LMS Formats/PlayliST/CUE.pm
> >
Code:
> >
> # We may or may not have run updateOrCreate on the base filename
> # during parseCUE, depending on the cuesheet contents.
> # Run it here just to be sure.
> # Set the content type on the base file to hide it from
listings.
> # Grab data from the base file to pass on to our individual
tracks.
> if (!defined $basetrack || $basetrack->url ne
$track->{'FILENAME'}) {
>
> main::INFOLOG && $log->info("Creating new track for:
$track->{'FILENAME'}");
>
> $basetrack = Slim::Schema->updateOrCreate({
> 'url'=> $track->{'FILENAME'},
> 'attributes' => {
> 'CONTENT_TYPE'=> 'cur',
> 'AUDIO' => 0
> },
> 'readTags' => 1,
> });
>
> >
Thanks for looking into this, bpa. I don't have any knowledge of the
code involved, so it's not at all clear to me just what the purpose of
the cur file might be, other than it's not supposed to be displayed. But
it looks like it is triggered by some sort of discrepancy between the
track and the basetrack. But of course, track and basetrack might mean
something very different to what I'm guessing they mean.
I do assume the scanner examines the file(s) referenced in the cue sheet
and reads any metadata found there. That seems to be what the comment
says. If the base file is a symlink, do you suppose it dereferences the
symlink? In other words, does it recognize that the actual path to the
file is not the path in the cue sheet? If so, using a symlink might
itself be a discrepancy.
It is certainly true that cue files were originally intended to define
multiple tracks in a single audio file. I used to use CDRWIN, which the
cue file format was developed for. I don't remember when the ability to
reference multiple audio files (but never more than one per track) was
added. But I am reasonably certain that LMS only supported cue sheets
that reference a single audio file, until the changes you were involved
in. That was about two years ago, perhaps? Since those changes, LMS can
use cue sheets with multiple audio files, although that might not have
been intended.
There are still rogue cue files, including some that start a track
definition before naming the audio file. I don't think they work with
LMS.
I'm sure I have failed to understand some of what you said, and I
apologize for that. Could it be that situation as simple as this: .cur
files are created for every file or track that the scanner finds
referenced in a cue sheet. As long as there are no errors, the .cur
files are not displayed. They are only displayed when there is some sort
of discrepancy.
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occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic.
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Cue files and .cur files
mherger wrote: > Just to confirm that I don't really know what .cur file are, or should > be. I've never used cue sheets myself, and whenever we change anything > about their handling, I'm a bit worried... > > But the main question probably is why such tracks would show up at all, > > isn't it? Does this happen in any UI, or only Material? Would you mind > sharing such an album > (https://www.dropbox.com/request/T3RctyzGgNg0oFDubq6a)? The .cur files show up in the default interface, too. But since the default interface doesn't identify the files in an album by type, they just appear as duplicate titles: 37396 I have a zip file of an album to upload, but your dropbox link does not seem to be working for me. It's been more than 12 hours since you posted it, so maybe it has timed out. It took me some time to come up with a reasonably sized package to illustrate the problem, without sending you a multi-gigabyte box set and folders full of symlinks. In the process, I learned that I could not reproduce some of the effects I've observed and speculated about. But I can consistently cause .cur files to appear by putting an album title in the cue file that differs from the album title found in the flac files' tags. LMS displays .cur files for an album with the title found in the tags, but allows the flac files to be played in the album with the title in the cue file. +---+ |Filename: cur_files_default.png| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37396| +---+ LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116062 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Cue files and .cur files
Would a visual aid help to demonstrate that this actually occurs? 37394 +---+ |Filename: cur_files.png| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37394| +---+ LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116062 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Cue files and .cur files
Greg Erskine wrote: > FYI: I have used CUE files since day one and have never seen any .cur > files. Probably because all your cue files are correct! That's part of what I am trying to communicate here, and obviously failing. It appears that .cur files are only created when the LMS scanner thinks it encounters errors in a cue file. It could be an old .cue file that points to files that no longer exist, for instance. Or (I think) it could be the target file contains tags that do not match the metadata defined in the cue sheet. One recent report involved an embedded cue sheet that was malformed. It defined several empty tracks, so .cur files appeared in the library. Thanks for replying. I appreciate having some discussion about this, because I am very aware that I might be entirely wrong. It's also very possible to regard the .cur files as a useful service that informs users when there are hidden problems in their libraries. But it also seems to be true that if the .cur files were not visible to the user, there would be no problem with them in LMS. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116062 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Cue files and .cur files
I attempted to report something that I thought might be of interest to some, but sabotaged my own effort by droning on and on about irrelevancies, I have completely reorganized the 'first post' (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?116062-Cue-files-and-cur-files=1049397=1#post1049397) in this thread, and I hope it is much more readable now. All the mind-numbing background info is still there, but it has been moved to the end and can be easily ignored. I hope some will give it another chance and see if anything I said makes sense. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116062 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Cue files and .cur files
Haven't I already said enough? No, I've said too much. And unfortunately in the process I neglected to mention some crucial matters: 1. My central thesis, implied but never stated, is that a .cur file appears in the database for every file that is referenced in a cue file, but which is either not found, or found not to match the description in the cue sheet, such as tags the specify a different album name or track number. This should have been the tldr. 2. My extensive description of my own experience was there just to describe the process by which I made my observations. As much as I'd like to have the .cur files disappear, my oddball use is no reason to make any changes. It's the other problem reports, from people who don't even know they have cue files, that might be justify considering this to be an issue. But it is not my call, and I know there are more pressing issues. And besides, I wanted to know if my thinking is on the right track, or entirely wrong. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116062 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Cue files and .cur files
There have been some recent reports of problems with .cur files showing up in music libraries, but turning out to be unplayable. These files are related to the presence of (usually unwanted) .cue files or cue sheets embedded in flac files, so the solution is simple: get rid of the cue files or embedded cue sheets. The .cur files disappear. But I haven't found any discussion of exactly what these .cur files are, and that's what I would like to address. I do not have any knowledge of the code involved, so all I have to to say is speculation, but I have tried to base it on logic and observation. Background: originally LMS supported cue files that pointed to a single audio file, defining a sequence of tracks contained within the file, such as a rip of an entire CD or a side of an LP. A few years ago some changes were made so that now LMS can use cue sheets that point to multiple files, so each of the tracks can be a separate file. These changes seem to be when .cur file problems began occurring. Why would you want a cue sheet pointing to multiple files? If every track on an album is already a separate file, why not just play those files? There could be some valid reasons: having one file for each side of an LP could be one reason. But another reason, maybe not so valid, is because you want to use certain features in ways that were never intended. And that is the reason for my interest in this issue: I want to use the same individual track files in two or more albums, so I want to be able to address the same files from multiple cue sheets. Again, why? One reason is to be able to break individual albums out of comprehensive compilations, like Mosaic box sets. Another reason has to do with classical albums that contain several works, each with multiple movements on different tracks. It may be desirable to have easy access to the entire album, and to each of the complete works included. (Note: it has been pointed out in another thread on the subject that it would be much more sensible to just copy the files to a different folder. That's very true, but not relevant to this post. Remember, this part is just background!) One complication with this is that files that are addressed by a cue sheet are not supposed to be visible in the LMS database, for obvious reasons. They are visible if you browse the music folder, but they cannot be played. Oddly enough, they can be added to favorites, though. In my scenario of a box set and separate albums contained within it (not necessarily in the same sequence), it is necessary for both the box set and the original albums to be defined by .cue files. It also seems to help if the actual flac files are not directly scanned by LMS, so I put them in a separate folder with a sentinel file to tell the scanner to skip the folder. I put symbolic links to those files in the folder with the cue sheet, which points to the symlinks. That's all background to explain what I think is happening with .cur files. It appears to me that they are database entries created by LMS when it encounters discrepancies between a cue sheet and the tags it finds in the flac files the cue sheet points to. For instance, if the album name or track number is different, it stores a virtual .cur file with the attributes of the flac file. The .cur file cannot be played, but it can be added to the current playlist and LMS will throw an error when it attempts to play the file. If my speculation is wildly off base, I hope someone (by which I mainly mean Michael, but there are others who may know, as well) will correct me. But if this is close to what actually happens my question is this: Is it really necessary for LMS to display the .cur files and allow them to be loaded into the play queue? I assume they do serve a purpose, internally, but couldn't they be hidden? Are there any occasions when it is desirable for the user to see them in the database? Here's an error report of a recent attempt to play a .cur file (I have shortened the path to the file for readability, but it is otherwise unedited): Code: [22-03-02 15:36:18.9383] Slim::Formats::loadTagFormatForType (120) Error: Couldn't load module: (cur) : [syntax error at (eval 1441) line 1, at EOF ] [22-03-02 15:36:18.9390] Slim::Formats::loadTagFormatForType (120) Backtrace: frame 0: Slim::Utils::Log::logBacktrace (/usr/share/perl5/Slim/Formats.pm line 120) frame 1: Slim::Formats::loadTagFormatForType (/usr/share/perl5/Slim/Player/Protocols/File.pm line 409) frame 2: Slim::Player::Protocols::File::canSeek (/usr/share/perl5/Slim/Player/Song.pm line 842) frame 3: Slim::Player::Song::canDoSeek (/usr/share/perl5/Slim/Player/Song.pm line 812) frame 4: Slim::Player::Song::canSeek (/usr/share/perl5/Slim/Player/Song.pm line 394) frame 5: Slim::Player::Song::open (/usr/share/perl5/Slim/Player/StreamingController.pm line 1229) frame 6: Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Maximum file size for cover art?
gordonb3 wrote: > AFAIK there is no fixed limit, but as coverart is resized to match the > player's capabilities and I run LMS on a small CPU I make a habit of > reviewing the music files and resize the art to match the maximum > display size which is 300x300 for the image included in the music file > (used by the player) and 800x800 for the folder (used by the web GUI). Thanks for that reality check. That makes a lot of sense, and a lot more sense than keeping old graphics files from the days before I used LMS and wasn't concerned about viewing them anywhere but on the desktop where my music library was stored in those days. The problem here is entirely user-generated, like problems with outdated and incompatible metadata tags. In recent years, I have gone through my collection, attempting to get all the tags in order, and on another occasion, trying to correct problems with displayed cover art. Now it's time to deal with the other graphics files in the folders. Not the cover art, but images that can be displayed through the "Local artwork" link in "Song Info." (Is this link only available if you have the Music and Artists Information plugin installed? I've been using MAI so long, I don't remember.) These images can be much larger than 800x800, and sometimes greater detail is appropriate. But there is no point in having files as large as the ones I mentioned earlier. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116043 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Maximum file size for cover art?
Correction to the above, I overlooked the following two lines in the log, which seem to be associated with displaying the 147 MB png file: Code: [22-02-28 12:04:27.2962] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1343) Warning: [12:04:27.2957] fixed-point overflow: 437170145 830479563 -269959117 1224405955 [22-02-28 12:04:31.5578] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1343) Warning: [12:04:31.5573] fixed-point overflow: -1340173856 -215196268 -655582875 1169048260 I also tried to display a 20 MB jpg file with the absurd dimensions 18150x3630. It was slow to display and while processing it LMS stopped responding to input. Material skin reported that it had lost contact with the server. But there were no errors in the log. When LMS finally responded to input again, The "now playing" marker had moved to the end of the current queue and playback had stopped. But I was able to start playback with no further problems. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116043 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Maximum file size for cover art?
RobbH wrote: > I will hunt for one of my insanely large graphics files and try to > generate am error report for you. Done, but no luck. I found a 7360x3682 png file, 147 MB, which should qualify as insanely large. LMS loaded it, slowly, and displayed it without any obvious distress. Nothing in the log. If any logging changes would help, I'll be happy to try again. Whatever caused large images to crash LMS in the past, as I have experienced, it must have been filed. I'm running today's build of 8.3. These are images in a music folder, displayed through the Local artwork link in Song Info. Bob is talking about images embedded in music files, so there are differences. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116043 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Maximum file size for cover art?
mherger wrote: > > This got me wondering - what is the biggest cover art file size that > LMS > > can deal with, and does it depend on the specs of the computer it's > > I don't know. But I thought we had some kind of protection from this > kind off issue built in. Would you have a log file where we'd get mor > information about the crash? I will hunt for one of my insanely large graphics files and try to generate am error report for you. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116043 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Maximum file size for cover art?
I am very interested in this issue, as well. I have some insanely large graphics files accompanying some albums, Occasionally, trying to view one of those files from the Local Artwork link in song info will crash LMS. Obviously the solution is to get rid of any insanely large graphics files, but it would be nice to have some sense of where the line is between rather large and insanely large. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116043 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Standing Ovation
mooblie wrote: > +1 +1 +1 > > ...but I meant where to support the core Squeezebox universe and its > overlords? This thread may be helfpul: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?113347-Register-your-appreciation=997111=1#post997111 I am a relative newcomer here. It's "only" about eight years since I started using LMS. I have some Squeezebox players, but I usually stick to piCorePlayer and devices I can use with the Airplay bridge these days. I am very grateful to everybody who helps keep the music playing. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115995 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Has Stopped Working. Cannot Get It Working Again.
Annie Body wrote: > I still have not resolved this issue Have you ever done what Michael asked you to do, back in August, when you first reported your issue of having to install an outdated version of LMS and then upgrade to the current version? https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115036-Output-Power-Issue=1031919=1#post1031919 That needs to be fixed first, then you can tackle the other issues you are experiencing, if they still occur. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115832 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Help with first time LMS( v8.2.1 install) to Linux Mint
uarnutz wrote: > Looks like I need the basic user guide to this. I see the LMS > referred to all over the place but, not much on its basic functionality. Getting started with LMS can be a challenge. Much has changed, just in the past few years, and recent changes are not necessarily well documented, because many are still works in progress. For starters, you might look at the LMS section in the 'Squeezebox wiki' (https://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Logitech_Media_Server.html). Just be aware that much of what's there is now out of date, There's still some good information there, but it will be hard to know which is still good. It will, however, give you some historical perspective, if you're interested in that. As for getting to know LMS as it works today, the best way I can think of is to load the LMS web interface as I mentioned previously at LMS_IP:9000 (NOT in a mobile browser!) and then use the link at lower right to go to the Settings page. Explore the tabs on the Settings page. Many of the options available there have information boxes that will pop up when you hover the mouse pointer over the "i" icon. There's a lot of useful information you can find that way, and it's (mostly) guaranteed to be current. And when you encounter something baffling, you can always ask about it in these forums. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115954 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Help with first time LMS( v8.2.1 install) to Linux Mint
uarnutz wrote: > Thanks for jumping in. That is exactly what I was missing. So, it runs > in the background and is controlled from the device, not the PC? LMS is controlled mainly through its web interface, accessible on your local network at the IP address of the device running LMS, port 9000. So try http;//:9000 in the web browser of your choice. However, be aware that the default interface does not work well at all in mobile browsers. For starters, it's best to use a desktop (or laptop!) browser. Once you install the Material plugin, you will have the option of using a mobile-friendly interface. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115954 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Help with first time LMS( v8.2.1 install) to Linux Mint
You are aware that LMS runs in the background on Linux? There's no window that opens, no icon in the tray. I understand there's an LMS control panel that appears when it's running on Windows. Apparently, people sometimes look for that when they try running LMS on Linux, but it's not there. The command Paul Webster suggested -- sudo systemctl status logitechmediaserver -- is probably the best way to find out if it's running. Please forgive me if this is too basic. I'm not trying to be condescending. It's just that I've seen that sometimes people who know a lot don't necessarily know this. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115954 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Migrate 7.9 -> 8.2: CUE Sheets now fail to scan
mherger wrote: > > Again, thank you very much! Getting the metadata set up as expected, > > does not seem to be something simple for the general user. I did > install > > MusicBrianz Picard, which does seem to to a better job than the older > > version of Kid3 in the Debian buster repo, but I still see the same > > error messages (file is uploaded for information). > > Yeah, the file seems identical wrt. the CUE sheet. I'm really a bit > lost, as I don't use CUE sheets myself... maybe you could use metaflac > (part of the "flac" package?) to remove the "cuesheet_block". A search took me to 'this page' (https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php?topic=59787.0), which is 14 years old. But it agrees with the metaflac man page in suggesting that this command might do the job: Code: metaflac[.exe] --remove --block-type=CUESHEET LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115952 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously
slartibartfast wrote: > The newer way is probably JSON > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=1046901 > I thought JSON was the Blue Peter cat [emoji1787] > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I'm glad you got some knowledgeable advice about that! LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115927 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously
slartibartfast wrote: > I can start all four of my players using the curl command. If my MUSE > player is turned off then another player with a different MAC address > starts playing when I enter the curl command with the MAC address of the > MUSE player. How on earth can that happen? > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I wouldn't think it could. But since it IS happening, it must be my thinking that's wrong. What happens if you use a MAC address that doesn't exist on your system? Does LMS always fall back to the same player if it's given an address it can't use? LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115927 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously
Once you get the Material action working, I hope you'll report back on the sound you're getting, playing all four versions more-or-less simultaneously. Do you recommend the experience? LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115927 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously
One more thought. I'm sure that, in the past, Michael has pointed us toward better ways to do this than using HTML commands. Maybe he will refresh our memories this time. But I just had good luck using this command: Code: curl "http://:9000/Classic/status_header.html?p0=play=00%3A00%3A00%3A00%3A00%3A00" &> /dev/null It might be worth trying to put four such commands in a single script, running each one in the background to minimize the delay between them. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115927 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously
This is horribly convoluted, but it's the only thing I've thought of so far: Take four computers. Any combination of desktops, laptops, Raspberry Pis, or whatever. Each one needs to have the capability to run a command at a specified time, like cron on LInux. Each one also needs to have the capability to run a command that will click a button in a gui. (In LInux, xdotool serves that purpose.) Make sure time is synchronized on all four. Open LMS in a browser and select a different player on each one. Have the appropriate version of the album ready to play in each. Do all the necessary measurements and calculations to set up a command that will click on the Play button. Would that actually work? Maybe. Probably not. On second thought, aren't there html and/or json commands you could use to do this? LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115927 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS / Squeezelite / Jivelite - with no active interfaces?
sodface wrote: > Thanks for the reply, I did actually see that one this morning, plus a > couple of older threads which are similar but not identical to my use > case. Some are picoreplayer specific (I'm not using a Pi in this case) > and/or the solutions aren't really ideal for me I don't think, eg. > adding a switch, or turning on hostapd for hotspot mode, setting static > ips on the physical interfaces etc. I'll keep looking at it, I was doing > a lot of skimming so I may have missed some important details in those > threads. I think what you're trying to do is more complicated than any of the threads on this subject I've seen. But I hoped you might encounter something in one of those threads that could nudge you in the right direction. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115923 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS / Squeezelite / Jivelite - with no active interfaces?
sodface wrote: > > Can anyone provide any hints or forum links for standalone disconnected > setups? Have you seen this current thread? https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115897-Start-music-from-USB-device-without-network=1046110=1#post1046110 The links in some of the replies there might be helpful. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115923 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Tidal hi-res through LMS 8.0 - bitrate limited to 44.1?
Blew wrote: > It would be great if the Tidal ickstream plugin could support streaming > "Master" MQA tracks over 44.1KHz, as this current limitation makes it > fairly useless for me. https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?110399-ickStream-Shutdown=937210=1#post937210 LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113430 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Rescan doesn't update certain fields
slartibartfast wrote: > I remove the folder I want to change, scan for new and changed, change > the tags, replace the folder and rescan for new and changed. A bit of a > faff but quicker than a clear and rescan. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Perhaps even easier: put a sentinel file (Settings/My Music) in the folder, scan new and changed, remove the sentinel file, scan new and changed again. I suspect that would work, but have not tried it. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115694 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Ultralight LMS skin v0.5.0 released
I hadn't seen earlier versions of this skin, but I'm trying this one, and it could be useful, especially on systems that are incompatible with the Material skin, such as older Android devices. One issue I've seen is that the cover art displayed in the Now Playing part of the display often belongs to the previous track. The thumbnails shown in the queue are correct. More potential users might be aware of this skin if the release announcement were in the Third Party Software forum, instead of the LMS forum. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115659 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS losing subfolders after a few days Windows 10
slartibartfast wrote: > In your other thread I said that if I mapped a network drive I could see > it in "Disks and Folders" but inexplicably now I can't. What could I be > doing wrong? > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk This isn't another one of those spindown issues, is it? LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115571 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Problem with similar album names from same artist
SpiderJon wrote: > Slightly less inelegant would be just "Evanescence" and "Evanescence > (EP)" ie, if it doesn't say it's something else, it's an album. I think that's MUCH less inelegant! Maybe even approaching a state of elegance. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115568 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Problem with similar album names from same artist
It's not elegant, but I would deal with this by changing the album title tags to, respectively "Evanescence (EP)" and "Evanescence (LP)". Wouldn't LMS then distinguish between them? LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115568 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playback stops when starting up new player or app
Puniam wrote: > I am running LMS on a Mini-PC (Celeron/8Gb Ram, Music locally on a > SATA-SSD, Debian 11, LMS 8.2.0) and have, as I said above, exactly the > same problem with my SB Radio. > > Bevore that I was running LMS on a very low powered NAS (QNAP TS-110, > local SATA-HDD, 256MB Ram, LMS 7.7.6) for years and it didn't have that > problem. I don't think it's caused by whatever hardware you are running > your LMS on. > > Regards > Andre I think that's probably correct. The hardware is not the cause of the problem. However, the combination of hardware, OS, and configuration options available to the user might make it impossible to install current versions of software, and that could be the cause. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115399 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LocalPlayer plugin CPU usage
dbinfl wrote: > Updating the squeezelite binary solved the problem with sustained high > CPU. > > This makes me curious about the process by which updates to the > squeezelite client get merged into the LMS product for the LocalPlayer > plugin. I hope somebody who knows enough about this to provide a definite answer will do so. Until that time, I suggest that there may be no such process. The plugin is very old and it appears that there has been no further development of it for many years. As you have seen, the squeezelite binary is actively maintained and updated frequently. But I think it's up to the user to keep it up to date, whether you use the Local Player plugin or not. Note: I have absolutely no experience with the plugin. What I'm saying here is based on what I've read in the past, and there's always a chance that I'm remembering incorrectly. Again, I'm hoping that someone with actual knowledge will chime in. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115395 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playback stops when starting up new player or app
streifenleopard wrote: > I think this might be the case with my SBR sitting in the kitchen. It is > quite far away from my WLAN-modem and struggles to establish a > connection on start-up. But with the other players I don't know. My RPI > is on LAN so there should not be such issues. It's possible that if one player has problems, then LMS and all players will have problems, especially if other players are synchronized with the problem player. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115399 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] problems scanning libraries after new install of LMS 8.3
fbachofner wrote: > > CAN SOMEONE REFRESH MY MEMORY: IS 8.3 THAT \"WEIRD\" VERSION WHICH WAS > ONLY FOR A LIMITED LINE OF SQUEEZEBOXXEN? . . . OR DID I JUST HAVE A > PROBLEM WITH A PARTICULAR NIGHTLY? > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98711-Logitech-Media-Server-Versions LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115426 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playback stops when starting up new player or app
I've been reminded of something that can cause playback to stop and move to the end of the current playlist: network issues. If LMS can't communicate with the players and/or the music source, that seems to be what happens. I have no idea how or if that might relate to what you are experiencing. It doesn't seem likely that just starting one player would disconnect the others. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115399 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playback stops when starting up new player or app
Since no one else has responded, I'll try to help, but I am not as knowledgeable as some of the regulars here. Is there anything in the LMS server log that might help identify the problem? When this happens, are the players synchronized or playing independently? When playback stops, do you immediately press "play" again, or do you wait a few seconds? I ask this because I think I see occasions when LMS seems to be confused by too many commands in rapid sequence. I wonder if this might explain why playback sometimes jumps to the end of the playlist. Have you considered moving LMS to the Pi? It could still access your local music files, which I assume are stored on the NAS? If your local collection is large, upgrading to a newer Pi might be more satisfactory. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115399 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Titles when browsing Random Albums
bstrulo wrote: > Yes. That's great. I'm glad that turned out to be correct, even though I didn't know what I was doing when I suggested it! LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115346 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Titles when browsing Random Albums
bstrulo wrote: > Sorry - I wasn't clear - I was referring to the interface on my SB3 > hardware player. That was the setting I needed. So are you saying that this setting did change that as you wanted? LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115346 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Titles when browsing Random Albums
I also find that artists are still displayed when browsing Albums or Random Albums in the default skin, even when the "Show Artist with Albums" option is disabled. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115346 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Titles when browsing Random Albums
In the default interface, if you go to the Settings page, under the Interface tab, you should see an option to show artists with albums. Is it enabled? 36058 +---+ |Filename: LMS-show-artist.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36058| +---+ LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115346 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS can't find my music folder
RobbH wrote: > My LMS installation is very similar to yours, and I had to deal with > this issue when setting it up. I have ownership of the symlink set to > user pi and group lms. I don't recall now if the lms group already > existed or if I had to create it, or if there were other steps necessary > to make it work. Alan R wrote: > OK, I haver just checked the permissions on the TOPSHIBA USB drive. > They are: > Owner: p12 > Group: pi > > View content: Anyone > Change Content: Anyone > Access Content: Anyone > > That suggests that LMS should have access to the disk. > > Cheers, > Alan. I think you need to use this command: Code: sudo chown -R pi:lms [full path to symlink] As I said earlier, I don't recall if the lms group already existed or if I had to add it and add user squeezeboxserver to it. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115318 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS can't find my music folder
Alan R wrote: > OK. I'll try to be clear. > I have installed the latest Raspberry Pi OS on my Pi4. > > I can see the link, I can browse the link, I can see all the FLAC files > there. > However, when I try to find the folder from the LMS server settings > page, it doesn't see it! > > As far as I can tell the folder permissions allow anyone to > read/write/delete/execute the folders/files. > > I am by no means a Linux expert, but I do know my way around Linux, > having developed software on Linux platforms previously. > > What I want to know is my LMS doesn't see the folder, even though it is > there and easily accessed from the terminal and the folder window. > > To be honest, this wasn't an issue with my previous (now broken) image. > I simply created a symbolic link to my USB drive, set the path in the > server settings and all was OK. This time, NIX! > > Thanks, > Alan. My LMS installation is very similar to yours, and I had to deal with this issue when setting it up. I have ownership of the symlink set to user pi and group lms. I don't recall now if the lms group already existed or if I had to create it, or if there were other steps necessary to make it work. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115318 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Problems using two computers on same network
JonSqueeze wrote: > Installing Squeezelite-X fixed the problem. That's great! LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115309 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Problems using two computers on same network
JonSqueeze wrote: > Do I want Squeezelite or Squeezelite-X? Sorry, I can't answer that. I assume you are running Windows, so Squeezelite-X should be an option. I have no experience with it, but I suspect it may be easier to configure and may not require you to use the command line. I have never used LMS or any version of Squeezelite on Windows, so I am not in a good position to advise you. By tomorrow somebody who knows the details of using this software with Windows will probably have useful advice for you. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115309 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Problems using two computers on same network
JonSqueeze wrote: > I just installed LMS onto a new laptop and added FLAC files. I want this > laptop to run independent from the other computer. When I play music, > the sound plays on my other computer. When I looked at "Player Info" on > laptop it lists a Squeezelite player with an ip address of the other > computer. Please let me know How I can fix this? > > Thanks, > Jon Where did you expect music to play? Assuming you want it to play on the same computer with the new LMS installation, do you have Squeezelite installed on that computer? If so, are you certain it's running? You should be able to select the player you want. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115309 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi & LMS - way to postpone start-up?
Man in a van wrote: > > > pCP was rejected, Network wait is enabled, and as stated in the opening > post, it is desired to power down the pi in between usage. > > ronnie Sorry! I did see that leaving the Pi powered down when not in use was the current practice, but did not understand that continuing to do that was necessarily a goal. That was my failure to think it through. Obviously, if the solution were that simple, you would have already suggested it! LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115262 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi & LMS - way to postpone start-up?
Man in a van wrote: > Asking for a friend :) > > ... > > Do the panel think there is any other way to solve the problem > :confused: > > Thanks > > ronnie Since the Touch and the NAS are left on all the time, why not leave the Pi on, too? LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115262 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] YouTube Music Plugin?
malpeli wrote: > Don't everybody holler their answers at once... > > But seriously, anyone with a programming background wanna do us all a > solid? I'm in for the price of a coffee if the Squeezebox-YouTube music > dream can be made real There used to be an unofficial Google Play Music plugin for LMS. If I remember correctly (always a questionable proposition), the original developer found maintaining it too frustrating and gave up on it. Somebody else took it up and kept it going another year or so, but it had been abandoned again long before Google Play Music shut down. Apparently, Google does not make it easy. That probably hasn't changed. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113267 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Saved Playlists Not Playing All Items; show "cur" not "flc"
msg wrote: > I just recently started seeing that some playlists I saved do not play > properly. > LMS skips over certain tracks. The tracks play fine if I browse to the > artist, but not from these saved playlists. > > The items show "File Format: cur" > The items that play, show "File Format: flc" > > I sat on 7.9.4 for a while and just recently updated to 8.2.1. > I "cleared the library and rescanned everything". > > Really not sure what to look for in this. > The folders for some of these items have both .cue and .m3u files, as > well as all the individual .flac files. > > I tried renaming the .cue file to .cuex after some reading, and > rescanned to see if it addressed the issue, but the issue remains. This is just a guess on my part: you may need to recreate the problem playlists. Just yesterday, I found that tracks in a certain album were appearing twice in My Music, once as "cur" files and once as "flc". Looking in the directory, I found both a cue file and an m3u playlist, even though I thought I had purged those files from my library some time ago. I renamed those files to filename.cue.txt and filename.m3u.txt. After a full rescan, the cur files no longer appear in My Music. But my guess is that if they had been saved in a playlist, the playlist would still point to the cur files. Again, that's only a guess. Good luck! LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115141 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Stream from PC Audio to LMS
agbagb wrote: > A while back, one of the Clever Coves here in the forums suggested a > simple way of streaming the actual audio playing on a PC to LMS, and > thence to players. > > It involved simply saving as a favorite an appropriate: address, with a port number and some streaming instructions for mp3>. > Has worked fine for me: run the local PC audio, and hit the saved "PC > Stream" favorite in LMS, directed at a particular player. But today I > unintentionally deleted the favorite, and can't from memory (nor from > research in the forums) re-create it. > > Can anyone remind me of what to do? The answer probably depends on exactly what you're doing on the PC to create the stream. If you use Icecast, you should be able to find what you need by opening a browser tab at http://:8000 . Assuming you use the standard port, 8000, this will display the Icecast status page, which should tell you the mount point. The stream url would be http://:8000/ . LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115102 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.0 problem? - Music folder > new albums not added to database without a scan.
kidstypike wrote: > 12 months have elapsed since I started this post, still seeing the same > scenario - Playing a newly ripped/added album and playing it via BMF > does *not* make it available via New Music, Artist or Album lists. A > "new & changed" scan makes it available, although it doesn't show the > tracks in the scan result (below). > > Latest 8.3 nightly on a Pi4/piCorePlayer. > > I can only repeat what I said last year: I am not experiencing this. I just browsed in Music Folder to a just-added album, and it now shows up in New Music. I did check before browsing in Music Folder; it wasn't in New Music then. A track from the album is playing now. I'm still running the same LMS version as you, and now I'm on the same architecture. But I'm using Raspberry Pi OS, not piCorePlayer. Logitech Media Server Version: 8.3.0 - 1629376548 @ Thu Aug 19 14:58:08 CEST 2021 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: armv7l-linux Perl Version: 5.28.1 - arm-linux-gnueabihf-thread-multi-64int Audio::Scan: 1.02 IO::Socket::SSL: 2.060 Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.58 (sqlite 3.22.0) LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112634 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] More -> Add To End, Play Next and Play not working from Album List
flopperman wrote: > When clicking the little M next to an album in the Album List, the links > to Add To End, Play Next and Play seem to be missing their > tags. The Save to Favorites and Spotify: links seem to be working > correctly. > > I'm running version 8.2.0, and I have tested with both the Default skin > and the Classic skin. I see this, too, running 8.3 on RaspberryPiOS. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114980 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bridge to Winamp
typecrazy789 wrote: > That's not really what I'm trying to accomplish, which is to be able to > use the crossfading plug-in on winamp > Best of luck in your quest. I didn't have much hope that the old mp3 stream feature would meet your needs. I hope somebody will be able to help. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114829 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bridge to Winamp
d6jg wrote: > stream.mp3 might work but there are so many compromises with it and its > laggy in the extreme. I cant imagine for one second that it could be > considered an acceptable solution in todays LMS world. Can't argue with that. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114829 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bridge to Winamp
typecrazy789 wrote: > I'm wondering if anybody has found a way to successfully use Winamp as a > renderer using the UPnP/DLNA bridge or other means? > > I don't think this is exactly what you're looking for, but this will allow you to stream to Winamp. It can't be synchronized with other players. https://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Remote_streaming.html LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114829 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
d6jg wrote: > While I understand the question I dont actually understand why anyone > would want to have a truly random track based playlist. Its just alien > to me. > Why would I want to have the potential for say a Sex Pistols track > followed by a piece of Mozart followed by some lightweight pop? I much > prefer the more focused but random approach of LastMix/DSTM > Do people really opt for total randomness across their entire library or > is it focussed total randomness across a subset of genres thats being > sought? > > NB I do recognise that a smaller library with limited genre range might > make this desirable. I might ask why some people want to hear slight variations on the same thing, over and over again. That's just alien to me. But isn't it a good thing for LMS to provide the capability for whatever the user wants, even if somebody else finds it incomprehensibly weird? I usually have some filters engaged to shape random play in the direction I want. Here's a recent playlist, covering a little more than an hour: artist: Billie Holiday title: You're So Desirable album: Lady Day on Columbia Disc 05 artist: B.B. King title: I Need You So Bad artist: Duke Ellington title: Cotton Club Stomp album: Complete 1932-1940 Brunswick, Columbia, Master Recordings CD 11 artist: The Allman Brothers Band title: In Memory of Elizabeth Reed album: Idlewild South artist: Dizzy Gillespie title: Shaw 'Nuff album: Smithsonian Collection of Classic Jazz vol 3 artist: King Crimson title: Formentera Lady (take 2) album: Islands artist: Floyd Dixon title: I Wanna Rock Now album: Wake Up And Live! artist: Sam Cooke title: Twistin' The Night Away album: The Man Who Invented Soul 2 artist: Elvis Presley title: I Forgot To Remember To Forget album: Sun Rise CD1 artist: Jess Stacy title: After You've Gone No.3 album: Complete Commodore Vol.2 Disc 19 artist: Seattle Symphony Chorale title: IV. Thanksgiving & Forefathers' Day album: Ives: New England Holidays & Orchestral Sets Nos. 1 & 2 artist: Dizzy Gillespie title: That´s Earl, Brother album: 1945-1950 Small Groups - Night In Tunisia artist: Claude Bolling, Jean-Pierre Rampal title: Fugace album: Suite For Flute & Jazz Piano Trio artist: Charlie Parker, Miles Davis title: Cheryl album: The Savoy Recordings CD1 artist: Emmett Lee Brooks title: Dancin' album: Detroit After Hours Vol 1 artist: Sarah Vaughan title: Make Believe album: Chronological Sarah 1947-1949 artist: Rachmaninov title: Rhapsody On A Theme Of Paganini artist: John McLaughlin title: The Dolphin album: Thieves and Poets LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Random Mix genres
slartibartfast wrote: > If the Online Music Library Integration plugin is installed then Spotify > appears in the genre list. The OLMI plugin has a feature where genres > can be allocated to Spotify tracks based on text found in album names > etc. I have used this for Christmas albums and albums of test tracks. > If I include the "Spotify" genre in Random Mix settings but disable > "Christmas" then Christmas songs from Spotify can still appear in the > playlist. > The only way to avoid this that I can think of is to allocate a genre to > all of my Spotify albums and then disable the "Spotify" genre in Random > Mix. > > > > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk This is why I end up using the unsupported Dynamic Mix plugin most of the time, instead of Random Mix. The plugin allows you to exclude certain genres from the mix, even when files have multiple genre tags, some of which might be included in the mix. I don't know of any way to achieve this with Random Mix. The option to exclude genres in Advanced Search does not work this way; when files have multiple genre tags, they are excluded only if all their genre tags are in the list. It's probably possible to work around this limitation with custom SQL, but I've never managed to grasp that, even though some knowledgeable people have tried to help me. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114510 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
mherger wrote: > > I think the "shuffle" described by the Spotify engineer is the effect > > that people want from a "random" option. 2-4 seconds is not > something > > to worry about in my opinion but for those with "legacy" CPUs, I > think > > there should be the option to choose a "simple random" option. > > The next 8.2 nightly build will offer a fast vs. "balanced" shuffling > option. Please check it out. Remember, I'm the one who doesn't want this. But I've been using it several hours now, and I'm impressed. I miss the occasional surprises that occur with random play, the segues that make you think, "that can't possibly be random." So I'm glad there's an option to go back the usual implementation of random, but I think I'll be using this option much more than I expected. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
mherger wrote: > > So my plea is, Let Random be Random! > > C'mon! Now that the topic caught my interest, you're killing it again > :-D > > I'll take a not to introduce yet another preference should I succeed to > > implement something less random than what people consider not random > enough... It wasn't my intention to kill the topic! I think there are lots of options that could make sense. For instance: do not repeat artist, album or song title within X entries. I also think options for weighted random play could be useful. Here's what I mean: suppose my library included 600 Western Swing tracks, 300 Chicago Blues tracks, and 100 Be-bop tracks. But I want a random playlist that's 75% Chicago Blues, 15% Be-bop, and 10% Western Swing. But yes, I hope there will always be an option for random to be as random as possible! It does sometimes defy expectations, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
mherger wrote: > What random mix types would people be using when they believe it wasn't > > random enough? I'm currently playing with the Spotify approach. But it's > > hard to test whether it feels better than real random order... My preference is for genuine random, but limited to unique numbers. In other words, random without repeats, until random play is reset or all available tracks have been played. That's the current approach, isn't it? I prefer to have occasional coincidences, like two tracks in a row by the same artist, or two different versions of the same song. After all, when cards are properly shuffled, it still happens on very rare occasions that a player will be dealt a royal flush or some other winning hand. If truly random play were left running indefinitely, eventually (not necessarily in the lifetime of anybody now alive) a Cliff Richard album would play all the way through, in the correct order. So my plea is, Let Random be Random! LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
whitman wrote: > RobbH, I'm a fan of patience, specially where your advice is concerned. > I had not done these settings, mainly because I had no idea they were > there. > > So, I did indeed set them, and (I'm loathe to say this, as I've suffered > from early optimism before, but...) it does seem to be delivering a good > result. > > Even with the caveats that I've read about in those interesting posts > and links above on the psychology and engineering of so-called > randomness, still I'm impressed. > > This does (careful now...) seem to have sorted it for me, for which many > thanks. > > There is a but, though. The only thing not right is that I only get a > playlist of ten songs. Plays ten "random" (maybe we ought to call them > shuffled?) songs from my defined source, then stops. Does this have > anything to do with the "Now Playing will show" bit, or is it another > setting somewhere else I don't know about yet? I'd like it to just keep > going till I tell it to stop. > > Anyway, randomly speaking, I'm smiling. Ta. Thanks! I'm glad that has helped. About your remaining issue, I have experienced the same thing sometimes. I THINK it has usually happened if I try to add random play to the existing current playlist. In other words, I click the plus sign on Random Songs rather than the play icon; ten tracks are added to the end of playlist, but nothing else is added after they play. If instead I click on the play icon, it replaces the current playlist with ten tracks and continues to add more tracks as those are played. As to why it happens, I don't know. Possibly LMS somehow thinks a different random mix is still playing. Stopping play or clearing the playlist might make a difference. (But of course, when you add tracks to the current playlist, clearing the playlist is exactly what you don't want to do.) Sorry, I don't have a definite answer for you. All I can tell you is that it usually doesn't happen for me. Maybe you can determine what causes this glitch to occur. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to know what you are listening to?
brann wrote: > And for Qobuz, for example, all what you have is qobuz://x.flac > There is also, as your screenshot shows, the "Personnel" link, which sometimes provides usable information about who's playing on the current track. That's all Qobuz provides, in most cases. Occasionally there will also be "Qobuz goodies," which usually means a pdf of the CD booklet, but that's usually only available for recent and heavily promoted releases. I see "Qobuz Extras" link in your screenshot, too. Is that not the same thing with different language settings? It appears that you do not have the Music and Artists Information plugin installed, which often provides information about music playing from your local library. It may not work well with streaming services, but it would probably be worth trying. You say clicking on the item in your playlist is not very convenient. What did you have in mind? That's not just a rhetorical question. There are alternative interfaces available for LMS, and it may be that something else would suit you better than the default interface. Material Skin is the interface that many people prefer. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114475 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
whitman wrote: > Robbh, it's Random Mix that's the culprit for me, as I'm avoiding the > potentially harmful 'oldness' of Dynamic Playlist, as discussed here. > But yes, with so-called Random Mix, same artists appearing all the time, > plenty of others neverpretty much as DCtoDaylight reports. > If you'll be patient with me just a moment, I'd like to mention one very small point from a few pages back in this thread. It's probably not significant, but it's possible that it's something you overlooked. You said: > I added Library Views to the menus on my SB3, and... er, then what? > *Made that the current view,* fiddled around a bit more, and *discovered > that this was now what would play from Random Mix*. And it works really > well! > (emphasis added) That's actually not the way it's supposed to work. Rather than using your current Library View, Random Mix requires you to select the Library View you want on the page defining the Random Mix: 34427 Maybe that's what you've been doing, but it's not clear from your earlier comment. If not, try it this way and see if it helps. In any case, a truly random sequence is very likely to include some surprising coincidences. Just as on very rare occasions, somebody does flip a coin one hundred times and have it come up heads every time. +---+ |Filename: library-view.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34427| +---+ LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
whitman wrote: > My last post was over-optimistic. > > The Library Views scheme is certainly a successful way to cue up an > alternative set of tracks. But, despite what I thought at first, the > degree of randomness of those tracks delivered by Random Mix remains > poor. I suppose it was naive to expect it could be any different. > > From my experience, Random Mix is a misnomer and cant deliver much > beyond the same artists and tracks over and over again. > > But it would be great if someone could point out that Im still missing > some hidden LMS trick that can deliver proper randomness. Sorry, but I can't relate. That's not my experience. However, I don't have much recent experience with Random Mix, since I usually use Dynamic Playlist. Things may have changed since I last used it regularly. Are you saying that you start a random mix and it keeps playing the same artists and tracks? Or are you saying that every time you start a random mix it plays the same artists and tracks as the last time? If you're using a Library View, how big is the one that Random Mix uses? It's not likely, but is it possible you have it pointing to a very small Library View that contains only the artists and tracks you're hearing? LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Orbi Mesh and Inability to Connect
LovelyBrook wrote: > > Update: Decided to use just one power ethernet adapter with this slim > device and it works fine for now. Am declaring this project done. Hope > this info might help others. Good work! LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114379 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Orbi Mesh and Inability to Connect
LovelyBrook wrote: > Please read my earlier updates from today. All problems have been > solved. Thanks all for your good brains. I apologize to be in whatever > works mode, but it is definitely working now. Good work! "Whatever works" works! I could not (and still can't) find how to turn off "ax" in the online version of your Orbi system's manual that I've been consulting. Good job finding that! Incidentally, I also use powerline networking. While not as good as dedicated ethernet, it works reasonably well most of the time. There are occasional glitches, but it's much more reliable than wifi in my house. If, at some time in the future, you still have devices connected to the T-Mobile modem/router and you have problems getting them to communicate with devices connected to the Orbi, you may have to consider Access Point mode again. As long as there are no problems, there's no need for you to worry about it. (Assuming no security risks are involved.) LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114379 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Orbi Mesh and Inability to Connect
This is very unlikely, but if your devices that require WPS could all use the 5 GHz band, my suggestion would be to disable 2.4 GHz wifi on the Orbi system. Then you would continue to use the T-Mobile modem/router 2.4 Ghz wifi for your Squeeze devices. You are probably right that switching the Orbi to Access Point mode will not solve any problems relating to Wifi 6. I see that other people report success after turning off Fast Switching and Fast Scanning on Wifi 6 systems. I've been through the manual for your system, and I do not see any way to disable these options. But I have no experience with mesh. I hope someone who knows more can explain how this could be done for your system, if it is possible. Whatever approach you take, you probably need to switch the Orbi to Access Point mode. Having two DHCP servers running will continue to cause problems. If you'll be patient with me, I'm going to attempt a grossly oversimplified explanation of your networking gear: What we call a "router" for use in home networking is actually a combination of devices. It usually includes at least the following: 1. a switch, which makes it possible for multiple wired devices to connect 2. an access point, which makes it possible for multiple wireless devices to connect 3. the actual router, which includes a DHCP server and serves as a sort of traffic cop, deciding what data packets can go where as they travel to and from the various connected devices. If you have multiple DHCP servers running, it's rather like having two traffic cops at either end of a block, giving conflicting directions. Collisions are likely. When you switch a "router" to AP mode, you are simply turning of the DHCP server. After that, it does no routing, but the wireless access point and the switch continue to work. As long as there is an upstream DHCP server (the T-Mobile modem/router, to which the Orbi is connected) traffic should be routed correctly to the devices connected to the AP. (I think AP mode would probably also correct any problems with conflicting firewalls.) Yes, it may well be that you will have to reconfigure all your networks after switching the Orbi to AP mode. Only you can decide if the hassle is worth dealing with in order to make things work. (And of course, as always, I can't guarantee that any of my suggestions will work!) My final suggestion; do not do ANYTHING purely on the basis of my recommendations! Wait for other, more knowledgeable people to chime in and see if there's any sort of consensus. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114379 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track count different between rPi3B+ and rPi4B, running same version of LMS
Are any of your files in unusual formats that require an extension to be installed in order to play? Are the same options available under File Format in Advanced Search on both machines? LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114437 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] issues with recent 8.2 nightlies
Just a follow-up to say that I am now convinced my original complaint was mistaken. I did experience some issues with nightly builds, beginning April 4, but I now believe those issues were entirely because of a new SSD. Shortly after correcting the SSD issues, I had another major crash, again while running the current nightly. I assumed that problem was somehow related to the earlier issues, but that was almost certainly not the case. Random crashes do occur for reasons that may be hard to identify, and I think that's what I experienced. It's now been more than a week with no problems. Next time something like this happens, I will think about my plugins. Some of my plugins are unsupported. Others are supported, but I demand more from them than is reasonable. That's where I need to look when problems occur. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114373 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Qobuz says 320 kbps mp3 / TIDAL skips to next track sometimes
basslover wrote: > Duet > > BTW, I played a few cuts using the webplayer of Qobuz on my laptop, and > they sound like CD quality, not mp3, so I'm thinking the issue isn't > with what Qobuz is streaming out. But I could be wrong. Based on a quick search, it looks like the Duet's digital output is capable of 24/48, while the analog output can handle 24/96. Either way, if you're playing files with a sample rate >96K some transcoding must be occurring. Some tweaking of convert.conf might be in order, and I hope someone else can help you with that. In any case, it's probably best to wait for someone wiser to chime in before taking any action. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114398 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
