Re: Autoupdate of SeaMonkey 2.x.x
Phillip Jones wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: »Q« wrote: Innews:cl6dnehxds4_xgnwnz2dnuvz_gudn...@mozilla.org, Mark Hansenm...@nospamwinfirst.com wrote: On 3/7/2010 5:10 PM, Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:37:18 +0100, Ray_Net wrote: Prefable, so you can choose to NEVER have this happen and instead dl manually from website. But *MOST* people prefer this. Where did you find that *MOST* people prefer this. ? You have asked and collected the answers from all ? The people in the SeaMonkey forums on Mozillazine have been uniformly appreciative of the autoupdate feature. In fact, I've been watching these forums for years, and it's a feature that's been begged for as long as I can remember. Another measure of how much people like it is how few people turn it off. I don't know any stats for SM, but with Fx most people leave it on. Well, a lot of them probably don't care about it one way or another, so maybe that's more a measure of how few *dislike* it. Apart from likes/dislikes, it's a huge win in terms of exploitable vulnerabilities; having most users automagically using the latest version decreases their exposure. Making automagic updates opt-in instead of opt-out would lose that benefit. Everything you say is true, but you have not said all the true things. That's a paraphrase from something... The flip side of that coin, and MSFT recently gave us a horrible example, is that if you put something bad into that trusted and largely unmonitored channel, you demonstrate the law of unintended results. So there are reasons for waiting a bit until you are sure there isn't a rash of posts about problems. People should decide which risk they want to take. Which is the model FF uses it allows you the ability to turn off the auto update and have auto notify which is different. SM as it stands now as set up (although some one say you can control from about: config which I haven't found) it only allow for auto notify. I have no need about some auto-xxx because my home page is http://www.seamonkey-project.org/start/ therefore i know immediately if a new version is available. I have only set the auto-check for installed addon option. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems after upgrading SeaMonkey from v1.18 to v2.03
John wrote: I just did this upgrade. It seemed to run OK and all the email and bookmarks from my old profile appear to have been successfully imported. But there are a couple of issues: 1. Every time I start SeaMonkey v2.03, it asks for the master password for the software security device. This is in spite of the fact that in preferences-privacy security-master passwords I have checked the selection SeaMonkey will ask for your master password the first time it is needed. Surprisingly, if I click cancel on the password dialog box without entering the password, SeaMonkey starts normally. Although I apparently had entered a master password at some point with SeaMonkey v1.18, the program wasn't asking me for it. How do I make v2.03 stop asking me for the password? This is a VERY BIG PROBLEM for me. 2. I have several news server accounts. The first time I started SeaMonkey mail and news v2.03, it seemed to be checking for new messages in every subscribed group on every news server. Actually, I'm not 100% sure *what* it was doing, but it took quite awhile before it would let me actually view messages in newsgroups. Annoying. 3. In general, the new version seems a bit sluggish compared to the old. I thought it was supposed to be faster. 4. Trying to compare settings and behaviors between the two versions, I tried to start both at the same time. It won't let me do that. Whatever version I start first, when I click on the icon for the other version it starts a second instance of the version I have already started. Thanks! John We have issues 2 3 in common. SM2 is definitely slower to load than SM1 on my system. I chalk it up to a case of new-version-itis. I recall that the upgrade from Mozilla to SM1 was also a bit of an ordeal, featuring glitches small and large (with the versions featuring the large glitches being superseded more quickly than usual). I've experienced other minor 'issues', as well, but no deal-breakers so far. I suspect we'll be seeing frequent minor-version upgrades for some time. According to the received, or at least frequently expressed, wisdom, hereabouts, having SM1 and SM2 installed simultaneously may not be wise. :/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Progress Window Mockups
Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: To summarize the two options: * Use one that KaiRo already submitted, which is/was partially implemented and a few vocally opposed. * DO NOT CHANGE A THING ABOUT HOW IT WAS IN SM 1.1 Choice 2 is woefully not going to happen, sorry. especially as there was no explanation on why the old UI is/was better than anything else. There was no explanation on why the old UI was bad, either. KaiRo decided to change it because of his own opinion only, and now for some unexplained reason it looks like nobody except me has the balls to put the old UI back, which was fine. There have been plenty of explanations as to why the old UI was better, but most developers don't seem to read support groups, especially mozillaZine. -clearly accessible text buttons for all actions which meant that every action was only a click away -full URL to remote file available -clear, organized grid-like design _Doesn't your explanation above give credence to my belief that_: Most developers of software go about software composition, in two different ways. 1)For pay (commercial): They develop according what the company Officers, BOD, and Investors want. 2) For open source (such as Mozilla): They develop to impress themselves and other developers. And in neither scenario, does the end user figure very little into the equation. (They can't think like end users, in either position - now if I were a user what features do I want the most. Users are beneath them kings and surfs) Note I said *most*, not *all*. The best coders - and spec writers - think like users, and from a user standpoint, IMO. When they don't, trouble usually ensues... Phillip and Rufus, I would think that *developers* are the _cream_ of *Users* as developers are able to use something, see that the program they use has deficiencies (as they see it) and develop the program to overcome these deficiencies. Now, just because you and I don't think these deficiencies are deficiencies doesn't really matter, and if we don't see these improvements as useful, that's our problem, not the developers!! IMHO, anyway! No offense meant to anyone! Cross post and follow-up to moz.gen (I hop!) Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM Keeps Asking Twice Do You Want To Work Online?
Greetings: Subject tells it all. On boot-up SM keeps asking me twice whether I want to work online. Seems awfully redundant as well as an annoyance. Is is normal and if not how can I fix it? Thanks! JimWG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser crashes seamonkey whenever invoked since version 2.0
Steven Holt wrote: I've updated from 2.0 to v. 2.03 and still the browser immediately blows up the whole program every time it is invoked. The browser window tries to open and before anything fills into the all white browser window, seamonkey dies and goes to an error reporting message box. I've asked for help with this in the box and so far zero response. The problem started after a browser crash. I suspect that there is a page that was in this very last crashed session that is causing the endlessly ongoing crash, How can I clear the last session out of the way without losing all my emails and passwords etc? Best, Steve Holt Try going into the profile and saving your mailbox and news Directories and folders. and possibly your passwords. then completely remove the profile and dump in Trash (wastebasket) then reopen SM let it create an ew profile. Quit then add back your news and mail folders. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
How to report a bug in SeaMonkey 2.0.3
Recently I received much help with accessing my different accounts from the Go button at the top of the mail window. I now know how to make it work--almost. It seems that I have to do the following after every system start-up in order to see my accounts--click ViewLayoutmake sure that Classic View is selectedclick Folder Pane. A short cut for all of these steps is to click F9. This procedure will cause the letters under Go to turn black--and to be responsive to a mouse click. It also opens the side window where one can also click on an account. Once the account is opened, the lettering under Go again turns gray--not responsive to a mouse click, and the side window remains open until SeaMonkey 2.0.3 is closed. This procedure must be repeated every time SeaMonkey 2.0.3 is opened. The SeaMonkey version 1.1.8 would permit the Go button and the side window to remain active at all times--always available for a mouse click. This Go/side window problem is annoying and should be looked at by some software expert. With the above said, how do it get this problem relayed to a SeaMonkey 2.0.3 software expert? Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser crashes seamonkey whenever invoked since version 2.0
On 3/11/2010 6:46 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Steven Holt wrote: I've updated from 2.0 to v. 2.03 and still the browser immediately blows up the whole program every time it is invoked. The browser window tries to open and before anything fills into the all white browser window, seamonkey dies and goes to an error reporting message box. I've asked for help with this in the box and so far zero response. The problem started after a browser crash. I suspect that there is a page that was in this very last crashed session that is causing the endlessly ongoing crash, How can I clear the last session out of the way without losing all my emails and passwords etc? Best, Steve Holt Try going into the profile and saving your mailbox and news Directories and folders. and possibly your passwords. then completely remove the profile and dump in Trash (wastebasket) then reopen SM let it create an ew profile. Quit then add back your news and mail folders. My goodness. Delete all the contents of the profile, just to see if it was a problem with the profile? Hint: There's more there than what you've recommended that the OP save off. Following your recommendation, he would lose a lot of content just for this test. Why not just create a new profile and test using that? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems after upgrading SeaMonkey from v1.18 to v2.03
On 3/11/2010 12:17 AM, cmcadams wrote: According to the received, or at least frequently expressed, wisdom, hereabouts, having SM1 and SM2 installed simultaneously may not be wise. :/ You can have both installed at the same time. You just need to take special steps if you want to run both at the same time. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Error in SM v2.0.3 in this web page?
On 3/10/2010 12:49 PM PT, J. Weaver Jr. typed: Is anyone else getting You do not have the roles required to access this portlet. error at http://www.needforspeed.com/web/world/news/-/nfsblogs/1273547 URL? My 64 bit Dell OEM W7 HP's IE8 had no problems. No error here on that page. SM 2.0.3, XP Pro SP3. -JW Weird, it works on my old home Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine. I will have to try again at work later. -- The Hunam Tiger ant has been known to consume an entire meal before the picnic guest arrive. --12th century Tang Dynasty proverb. /\___/\ / /\ /\ \Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Error in SM v2.0.3 in this web page?
On 3/10/2010 5:48 PM PT, David E. Ross typed: On 3/10/10 12:30 PM, Phillip Pi wrote: Hello. Is anyone else getting You do not have the roles required to access this portlet. error at http://www.needforspeed.com/web/world/news/-/nfsblogs/1273547 URL? My 64 bit Dell OEM W7 HP's IE8 had no problems. Thank you in advance. :) For a change, this is NOT a case of invalid sniffing. Instead, the Web site requires third-party cookies. Thanks for the analysis. Disabled cookies showed me: Redirect Loop Redirection limit for this URL exceeded. Unable to load the requested page. This may be caused by cookies that are blocked. The browser has stopped trying to retrieve the requested item. The site is redirecting the request in a way that will never complete. * Have you disabled or blocked cookies required by this site? * NOTE: If accepting the site's cookies does not resolve the problem, it is likely a server configuration issue and not your computer. Grrr. -- He who dislikes aardvarks was an ant in his former life. --unknown /\___/\ / /\ /\ \Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Error in SM v2.0.3 in this web page?
Phillip Pi a exposé le 3/10/2010 : Hello. Is anyone else getting You do not have the roles required to access this portlet. error at http://www.needforspeed.com/web/world/news/-/nfsblogs/1273547 URL? My 64 bit Dell OEM W7 HP's IE8 had no problems. Thank you in advance. :) In Linux SM 2.0.2 works only when cookies set to except all, or from this site only. -- [URL=http://users.kbc.skynet.be/fi001005] *Belgische Ardennen - Ardennes Belge [/URL] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
New mail accounts created in wrong location
I am using SM 2.0.3. Windows XP pro sp3. After one of the last 2-3 SM updates (can´t remember exactly which one) the following happens when I create a new mail account; SM for some reason puts it in a wrong location on my hard drive. Before the update it put all my mail accounts in C:\Documents and Settings\Administratör\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\s0r5u2w5.slt\Mail\ After the update it puts it in a place that actually doesn´t really exist on my hard drive (SM creates it) C:\Program\Netscape\Users\Netscape 7.1\tng6b77b.slt\Mail\ I don´t have Netscape 7.1 on my computer! I have even tried to delete the mail accounts that have been placed there, and then deleted the created Netscape folder/subfolders from under Program and then tried to create the mail accounts again to get them in the right location. It does not work, SM continues to create that particular path to put all my new mail accounts in. Does anyone have a clue as to what could be going on here? Monica ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM Keeps Asking Twice Do You Want To Work Online?
James Greenidge wrote: Greetings: Subject tells it all. On boot-up SM keeps asking me twice whether I want to work online. Seems awfully redundant as well as an annoyance. Is is normal and if not how can I fix it? Thanks! JimWG There use to be a file in the profile folder that you threw away to correct that problem. But for the life of me. I can't remeber the name in the past it would go bad so often you would have to throw away about once a week and I had it memorized. then it quit going bad and I forgot it. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unicode fonts
Paul B. Gallagher ha scritto: One thing that's different about Burmese (like some other languages I'll mention below) is that their writing system doesn't consist of a linear sequence of glyphs in a straight line. Rather, glyphs are assembled several at a time into compound characters. So even though Chinese has thousands and thousands of glyphs, they are written in a straight line (vertically or horizontally like English), but Burmese, Tamil, Korean, Arabic, and several other languages have so-called complex scripts (M$ term). For example, a common Korean formal greeting is 안뇽 하십니까? (annyong hashimnikka?), which decomposes thus: [CUT] Hello Paul, what's the reason why I do see your (interesting) explanation about Korean and Dēvanāgari, but I only see squares on Wikipedia, exactly as MCBastos, for Burmese characters ? I'm on OSX with SM 2.0.3 bye, Gabriele ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to report a bug in SeaMonkey 2.0.3
Frog wrote: Recently I received much help with accessing my different accounts from the Go button at the top of the mail window. I now know how to make it work--almost. It seems that I have to do the following after every system start-up in order to see my accounts--click ViewLayoutmake sure that Classic View is selectedclick Folder Pane. A short cut for all of these steps is to click F9. This procedure will cause the letters under Go to turn black--and to be responsive to a mouse click. It also opens the side window where one can also click on an account. Once the account is opened, the lettering under Go again turns gray--not responsive to a mouse click, and the side window remains open until SeaMonkey 2.0.3 is closed. This procedure must be repeated every time SeaMonkey 2.0.3 is opened. The SeaMonkey version 1.1.8 would permit the Go button and the side window to remain active at all times--always available for a mouse click. This Go/side window problem is annoying and should be looked at by some software expert. With the above said, how do it get this problem relayed to a SeaMonkey 2.0.3 software expert? Frog You first have to get a Mozilla Bugzilla account. then sign in. The you go to bug report. then choose application (SeaMonkey in this case). Then you need to follow directions, and research first to see if your bug is similar. You type keywords of your problem and see what bugs come up. read the one that appear to sound the same or similar. if you determine that your problem is not covered continue on choose Platform, and what part or component is affected. Next type a Basic Description of your problem (don't use something silly such as SeaMonkey Blowed up my Computer. they are interested in what's happening (Summary) Then type steps you were doing for SM to act up. next exactly what happens. What should have happened. Then comments. Comments are not to to be used to fuss at the developers then once everything filled out hit commit. Next if you have sample images when bug officially shows up then look for attachment and browse to your attachment next line is description of attachment. the scroll down to commit and hit commit. next get out. and with a few minutes to a few hours you bug should show up and you will receive an email notification. every time someone views and comments on you bug you will receive a notice. click on link read the comment and comment respectfully. Be prepared to to get comments from from that they don't like your comments. Maybe it was how your worded comment. Grow a thick skin. Most will take you seriously. You could end up help locate a bug. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems after upgrading SeaMonkey from v1.18 to v2.03
Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/11/2010 12:17 AM, cmcadams wrote: According to the received, or at least frequently expressed, wisdom, hereabouts, having SM1 and SM2 installed simultaneously may not be wise. :/ You can have both installed at the same time. You just need to take special steps if you want to run both at the same time. I'd be glad to know those steps, if you have a link. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser crashes seamonkey whenever invoked since version 2.0
Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/11/2010 6:46 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Steven Holt wrote: I've updated from 2.0 to v. 2.03 and still the browser immediately blows up the whole program every time it is invoked. The browser window tries to open and before anything fills into the all white browser window, seamonkey dies and goes to an error reporting message box. I've asked for help with this in the box and so far zero response. The problem started after a browser crash. I suspect that there is a page that was in this very last crashed session that is causing the endlessly ongoing crash, How can I clear the last session out of the way without losing all my emails and passwords etc? Best, Steve Holt Try going into the profile and saving your mailbox and news Directories and folders. and possibly your passwords. then completely remove the profile and dump in Trash (wastebasket) then reopen SM let it create an ew profile. Quit then add back your news and mail folders. My goodness. Delete all the contents of the profile, just to see if it was a problem with the profile? Hint: There's more there than what you've recommended that the OP save off. Following your recommendation, he would lose a lot of content just for this test. Why not just create a new profile and test using that? Normally you would, but he indicated as soon as you got to the browser SM dies (crashes) and if he should have set to open on web page rather than than mail news. what then?? if it will stay open long enough to do so by all means create a new profile. But he sounded as if as soon as SM opened it went to white screen then crashed. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Autoupdate of SeaMonkey 2.x.x
Ray_Net wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: »Q« wrote: Innews:cl6dnehxds4_xgnwnz2dnuvz_gudn...@mozilla.org, Mark Hansenm...@nospamwinfirst.com wrote: On 3/7/2010 5:10 PM, Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:37:18 +0100, Ray_Net wrote: Prefable, so you can choose to NEVER have this happen and instead dl manually from website. But *MOST* people prefer this. Where did you find that *MOST* people prefer this. ? You have asked and collected the answers from all ? The people in the SeaMonkey forums on Mozillazine have been uniformly appreciative of the autoupdate feature. In fact, I've been watching these forums for years, and it's a feature that's been begged for as long as I can remember. Another measure of how much people like it is how few people turn it off. I don't know any stats for SM, but with Fx most people leave it on. Well, a lot of them probably don't care about it one way or another, so maybe that's more a measure of how few *dislike* it. Apart from likes/dislikes, it's a huge win in terms of exploitable vulnerabilities; having most users automagically using the latest version decreases their exposure. Making automagic updates opt-in instead of opt-out would lose that benefit. Everything you say is true, but you have not said all the true things. That's a paraphrase from something... The flip side of that coin, and MSFT recently gave us a horrible example, is that if you put something bad into that trusted and largely unmonitored channel, you demonstrate the law of unintended results. So there are reasons for waiting a bit until you are sure there isn't a rash of posts about problems. People should decide which risk they want to take. Which is the model FF uses it allows you the ability to turn off the auto update and have auto notify which is different. SM as it stands now as set up (although some one say you can control from about: config which I haven't found) it only allow for auto notify. I have no need about some auto-xxx because my home page is http://www.seamonkey-project.org/start/ therefore i know immediately if a new version is available. I have only set the auto-check for installed addon option. You would still have the same choices now. you would get additional choice of auto install (update) of the application. Nothing would be taken away. just a couple of items added. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Error in SM v2.0.3 in this web page?
Bernard Mercier vient de nous annoncer : Phillip Pi a exposé le 3/10/2010 : Hello. Is anyone else getting You do not have the roles required to access this portlet. error at http://www.needforspeed.com/web/world/news/-/nfsblogs/1273547 URL? My 64 bit Dell OEM W7 HP's IE8 had no problems. Thank you in advance. :) In Linux SM 2.0.2 works only when cookies set to except all, or from this site only. Typo, should read SM 2.0.3 -- [URL=http://users.kbc.skynet.be/fi001005] *Belgische Ardennen - Ardennes Belge [/URL] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser crashes seamonkey whenever invoked since version 2.0
On 3/11/2010 11:12 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: Why not just create a new profile and test using that? Normally you would, but he indicated as soon as you got to the browser SM dies (crashes) and if he should have set to open on web page rather than than mail news. what then?? if it will stay open long enough to do so by all means create a new profile. But he sounded as if as soon as SM opened it went to white screen then crashed. Why not launch the profile manager? At the very least, before you tell someone to delete a bunch of their files (for a test) at least advise them to back up the files first. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems after upgrading SeaMonkey from v1.18 to v2.03
Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/11/2010 11:08 AM, cmcadams wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/11/2010 12:17 AM, cmcadams wrote: According to the received, or at least frequently expressed, wisdom, hereabouts, having SM1 and SM2 installed simultaneously may not be wise. :/ You can have both installed at the same time. You just need to take special steps if you want to run both at the same time. I'd be glad to know those steps, if you have a link. There is a command-line argument which you can pass to SM 2.X, named I think: -no-remote, which will allow SM 2.x to launch even though SM 1.1.X is currently running. Thanks. I think the issue in many of the comments I've read, though, is that of versions possibly stepping on each others' resources. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Error in SM v2.0.3 in this web page?
On 3/11/2010 8:27 AM PT, Ant typed: Is anyone else getting You do not have the roles required to access this portlet. error at http://www.needforspeed.com/web/world/news/-/nfsblogs/1273547 URL? My 64 bit Dell OEM W7 HP's IE8 had no problems. No error here on that page. SM 2.0.3, XP Pro SP3. -JW Weird, it works on my old home Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine. I will have to try again at work later. And I still can reproduced You do not have the roles required to access this portlet. error at work. Weird! I can also reproduce the Redirect Loop error without SM2.0.3's cookies though. I reported to both Mozilla and EA's Web site team about this issue. -- Phillip Pi (aka Ant) Senior Software Quality Assurance Analyst Partner Engineering/Internet Service Provider/Symantec Online Services, Consumer Business Unit Symantec Corporation www.symantec.com - Email: phillip...@symantec.comsymc (remove SYMC to reply by e-mail) - Please do NOT e-mail me for technical support. DISCLAIMER: The views expressed in this posting are mine, and do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer. Thank you. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Autoupdate of SeaMonkey 2.x.x
Phillip Jones wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: »Q« wrote: Innews:cl6dnehxds4_xgnwnz2dnuvz_gudn...@mozilla.org, Mark Hansenm...@nospamwinfirst.com wrote: On 3/7/2010 5:10 PM, Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:37:18 +0100, Ray_Net wrote: Prefable, so you can choose to NEVER have this happen and instead dl manually from website. But *MOST* people prefer this. Where did you find that *MOST* people prefer this. ? You have asked and collected the answers from all ? The people in the SeaMonkey forums on Mozillazine have been uniformly appreciative of the autoupdate feature. In fact, I've been watching these forums for years, and it's a feature that's been begged for as long as I can remember. Another measure of how much people like it is how few people turn it off. I don't know any stats for SM, but with Fx most people leave it on. Well, a lot of them probably don't care about it one way or another, so maybe that's more a measure of how few *dislike* it. Apart from likes/dislikes, it's a huge win in terms of exploitable vulnerabilities; having most users automagically using the latest version decreases their exposure. Making automagic updates opt-in instead of opt-out would lose that benefit. Everything you say is true, but you have not said all the true things. That's a paraphrase from something... The flip side of that coin, and MSFT recently gave us a horrible example, is that if you put something bad into that trusted and largely unmonitored channel, you demonstrate the law of unintended results. So there are reasons for waiting a bit until you are sure there isn't a rash of posts about problems. People should decide which risk they want to take. Which is the model FF uses it allows you the ability to turn off the auto update and have auto notify which is different. SM as it stands now as set up (although some one say you can control from about: config which I haven't found) it only allow for auto notify. Exactly my point, SM allows the user to choose which model is right for them. That's the best way, choice is good. And having the default to install is probably right, because those of us who understand the drawbacks are more likely to be capable of making changes we feel are appropriate. I think the controls you want are based on the dates IIRC, I'm sure someone will tell me to reread my notes if that's not it. ;-) -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2.1: Workaround for remote timestamp on downloads?
Oliver Naumann wrote: Hello world! As proposed in bug 178506, downloaded files are now assigned the last- modified timestamp from the remote server. This is a major annoyance in my opinion, but since even reasonable suggestions such as chaging the behaviour through a pref (bug 545392) fall on deaf ears, I guess this is one of those ideological deals which you can't argue about. Can somebody suggest a more convenient workaround than | If you want the timestamp on a file downloaded by Firefox to be | different from that on the server, you can change it yourself ? As you can tell from my asinine sense of entitlement and fear of new things, I'm on Windows. There are good reasons to use time last modified as seen on the server. There are also good reasons to use time of download to the client. Therefore I would say there is a *really* good argument for letting the user choose. On Linux/Mac it's less critical, the accessed and changed dates can be used for sorting or searching. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to report a bug in SeaMonkey 2.0.3
Phillip Jones wrote: Frog wrote: Recently I received much help with accessing my different accounts from the Go button at the top of the mail window. I now know how to make it work--almost. It seems that I have to do the following after every system start-up in order to see my accounts--click ViewLayoutmake sure that Classic View is selectedclick Folder Pane. A short cut for all of these steps is to click F9. This procedure will cause the letters under Go to turn black--and to be responsive to a mouse click. It also opens the side window where one can also click on an account. Once the account is opened, the lettering under Go again turns gray--not responsive to a mouse click, and the side window remains open until SeaMonkey 2.0.3 is closed. This procedure must be repeated every time SeaMonkey 2.0.3 is opened. The SeaMonkey version 1.1.8 would permit the Go button and the side window to remain active at all times--always available for a mouse click. This Go/side window problem is annoying and should be looked at by some software expert. With the above said, how do it get this problem relayed to a SeaMonkey 2.0.3 software expert? Frog You first have to get a Mozilla Bugzilla account. then sign in. The you go to bug report. then choose application (SeaMonkey in this case). Then you need to follow directions, and research first to see if your bug is similar. You type keywords of your problem and see what bugs come up. read the one that appear to sound the same or similar. if you determine that your problem is not covered continue on choose Platform, and what part or component is affected. Next type a Basic Description of your problem (don't use something silly such as SeaMonkey Blowed up my Computer. they are interested in what's happening (Summary) Then type steps you were doing for SM to act up. next exactly what happens. What should have happened. Then comments. Comments are not to to be used to fuss at the developers then once everything filled out hit commit. Next if you have sample images when bug officially shows up then look for attachment and browse to your attachment next line is description of attachment. the scroll down to commit and hit commit. next get out. and with a few minutes to a few hours you bug should show up and you will receive an email notification. every time someone views and comments on you bug you will receive a notice. click on link read the comment and comment respectfully. Be prepared to to get comments from from that they don't like your comments. Maybe it was how your worded comment. Grow a thick skin. Most will take you seriously. You could end up help locate a bug. Thanks for your reply. WOW! I thought this process would be somewhat less involved. I don't know whether my limited technical skills will let me pursue this possible bug any further. I will, however, review your response in depth and decide whether I think I can endure such a complicated sounding process. Side Note: I continue to wonder why others have not noticed this same possible bug. Maybe somebody, if they have also encountered this problem, has identified a method for making the Go tab work as it did in 1.1.18. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems after upgrading SeaMonkey from v1.18 to v2.03
On 3/11/2010 12:23 PM, cmcadams wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/11/2010 11:08 AM, cmcadams wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/11/2010 12:17 AM, cmcadams wrote: According to the received, or at least frequently expressed, wisdom, hereabouts, having SM1 and SM2 installed simultaneously may not be wise. :/ You can have both installed at the same time. You just need to take special steps if you want to run both at the same time. I'd be glad to know those steps, if you have a link. There is a command-line argument which you can pass to SM 2.X, named I think: -no-remote, which will allow SM 2.x to launch even though SM 1.1.X is currently running. Thanks. I think the issue in many of the comments I've read, though, is that of versions possibly stepping on each others' resources. They each have their own profile, so there is nothing for each other to step on. Do you have any evidence otherwise? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems after upgrading SeaMonkey from v1.18 to v2.03
John wrote: 1. Every time I start SeaMonkey v2.03, it asks for the master password for the software security device. This is in spite of the fact that in preferences-privacy security-master passwords I have checked the selection SeaMonkey will ask for your master password the first time it is needed. Surprisingly, if I click cancel on the password dialog box without entering the password, SeaMonkey starts normally. Although I apparently had entered a master password at some point with SeaMonkey v1.18, the program wasn't asking me for it. How do I make v2.03 stop asking me for the password? This is a VERY BIG PROBLEM for me. Please read http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.3/#issues (especially the third bullet point) and act accordingly. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems after upgrading SeaMonkey from v1.18 to v2.03
Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/11/2010 11:08 AM, cmcadams wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/11/2010 12:17 AM, cmcadams wrote: According to the received, or at least frequently expressed, wisdom, hereabouts, having SM1 and SM2 installed simultaneously may not be wise. :/ You can have both installed at the same time. You just need to take special steps if you want to run both at the same time. I'd be glad to know those steps, if you have a link. There is a command-line argument which you can pass to SM 2.X, named I think: -no-remote, which will allow SM 2.x to launch even though SM 1.1.X is currently running. That doesn't seem to work if you are on one machine (A) and have SM running and want to start SM on (B) where SM is also running. Total PITA. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM Keeps Asking Twice Do You Want To Work Online?
James Greenidge wrote: Greetings: Subject tells it all. On boot-up SM keeps asking me twice whether I want to work online. Seems awfully redundant as well as an annoyance. Is is normal and if not how can I fix it? Try this: after you get online, click the connector to go offline, then back online. I believe that clears (or used to clear) the lock file properly. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to report a bug in SeaMonkey 2.0.3
Frog wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Frog wrote: Recently I received much help with accessing my different accounts from the Go button at the top of the mail window. I now know how to make it work--almost. It seems that I have to do the following after every system start-up in order to see my accounts--click ViewLayoutmake sure that Classic View is selectedclick Folder Pane. A short cut for all of these steps is to click F9. This procedure will cause the letters under Go to turn black--and to be responsive to a mouse click. It also opens the side window where one can also click on an account. Once the account is opened, the lettering under Go again turns gray--not responsive to a mouse click, and the side window remains open until SeaMonkey 2.0.3 is closed. This procedure must be repeated every time SeaMonkey 2.0.3 is opened. The SeaMonkey version 1.1.8 would permit the Go button and the side window to remain active at all times--always available for a mouse click. This Go/side window problem is annoying and should be looked at by some software expert. With the above said, how do it get this problem relayed to a SeaMonkey 2.0.3 software expert? Frog You first have to get a Mozilla Bugzilla account. then sign in. The you go to bug report. then choose application (SeaMonkey in this case). Then you need to follow directions, and research first to see if your bug is similar. You type keywords of your problem and see what bugs come up. read the one that appear to sound the same or similar. if you determine that your problem is not covered continue on choose Platform, and what part or component is affected. Next type a Basic Description of your problem (don't use something silly such as SeaMonkey Blowed up my Computer. they are interested in what's happening (Summary) Then type steps you were doing for SM to act up. next exactly what happens. What should have happened. Then comments. Comments are not to to be used to fuss at the developers then once everything filled out hit commit. Next if you have sample images when bug officially shows up then look for attachment and browse to your attachment next line is description of attachment. the scroll down to commit and hit commit. next get out. and with a few minutes to a few hours you bug should show up and you will receive an email notification. every time someone views and comments on you bug you will receive a notice. click on link read the comment and comment respectfully. Be prepared to to get comments from from that they don't like your comments. Maybe it was how your worded comment. Grow a thick skin. Most will take you seriously. You could end up help locate a bug. Thanks for your reply. WOW! I thought this process would be somewhat less involved. I don't know whether my limited technical skills will let me pursue this possible bug any further. I will, however, review your response in depth and decide whether I think I can endure such a complicated sounding process. Side Note: I continue to wonder why others have not noticed this same possible bug. Maybe somebody, if they have also encountered this problem, has identified a method for making the Go tab work as it did in 1.1.18. The procedure is pretty simple: - once and only once create a user account (just fill in a few blanks and let password manager save the credentials) - log in and click report a new bug - look at the recent bugs report to avoid duplication - maybe do a search - fill in the bug info, lots of prompting to help, people will ask if more info is needed. - click the commit button and finally - don't expect fast response unless it's a earthshaking bug -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unicode fonts
Interviewed by CNN on 11/3/2010 15:47, Gabriele told the world: what's the reason why I do see your (interesting) explanation about Korean and Dēvanāgari, but I only see squares on Wikipedia, exactly as MCBastos, for Burmese characters ? I'm on OSX with SM 2.0.3 As I mentioned in the follow-up message, it turns out that Burmese is a script which is NOT covered in most Unicode fonts. Not even Code2000 includes it. So, you need a special font for it. There are a few linked from the Wikipedia Burmese script page. I tried it with the free one from SIL International, and it worked all right. But it came packaged in a Windows executable, so it probably isn't the best choice for a Mac. The other choices mentioned in Wikipedia will probably be easier to unpack. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... BOFH excuse #67: descramble code needed from software company *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.0.3 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Progress Window Mockups
Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb: http://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/DLProgress_Redesign Does that link there: https://bug513691.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=425508 indicate that scaling was implemented? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=538887 Or is it just bigger buttons at fixed size? As I see those Menu-items there when click on the source or the file I'm reminded of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499114 This regression should also be fixed when getting hands on that progress window if possible. btw: I'd suggest to open the menus by right-clicking. Left click (or at least left double-click) should open the file when (double)clicking on the file-name or the downloadpage when (double)clicking the download-location. After that the window should close (see bug 499114 above) The rest is usable, even though buttons on the left would be more intuitive to me, but that might just be me and is no real issue... Ah yeah, it doesn't seem to remember it's last coordinates/position, but always starts centered on the next download, that sucks ;-P I put it to a corner a dozen times a day because of that on every new download. (regression to SM1.1.x I think?) On one machine I even replaced it with the Download Statusbar Extension just to get rid of that. regards Martin ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
MD5 code for addons
using: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ brings me: Official builds - MD5 sums ... etc and download of the file: MD5SUMS give me a list with MD5 codes for each .exe and .xpi So far so good. I have : 755fd656e29b60658fcab3954ccaa130 win32/en-US/SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.3.exe and fa17c257b2ae4bd24c8c76a1791b5097 langpack/seamonkey-2.0.3.fr.langpack.xpi BUT where can i find the MD5 code string for the french-classic-dictionary: addon-13369-latest.xpi ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail interface for SM 2
Jeffrey Needle schrieb: I guess what I'd like is for my gmail to look a little like Outlook Express used to look. It was simple moving mails to folders, and clicking on an email in the inbox opened only the latest e-mail, not the whole thread. Maybe you want to try and use Seamonkeys built-in Mail-part for gmail then? (and any other email-provider you might be using) It's kinda similar in usage concerning folders etc. Window = MailNewsgroups or press Ctrl+2 Create a new account with the new account wizard using this data: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hlrm=deanswer=13287 And don't forget to make sure that POP or IMAP is enabled in your google mail account. For IMAP instead of POP3: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hlrm=deanswer=78799 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hlrm=deanswer=78892 I guess it's easier for you to setup POP, but IMAP offers you to have all mails synchronized in SM and in the webmail interface at any time, so decide what you need/prefer. :-) regards Martin ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Migration shortcomings [Was: Re: SM2: Imap folder syncronisation]
Matthias Kahlert schrieb:
Am 26.02.2010 12:23, schrieb David Wilkinson:
Matthias Kahlert wrote:
Hi!
I'm looking into migrating several users from 1.1.18 to SM 2.
On a test-run I realised that folder synchronisation seems to be on as a
default in SM 2. (This spilled 15GB of junk into my test-profile.)
I see that it can be turned off manually in the settings, but I would
prefer to turn it off once and for all, because mail shoud stay on the
imap-server only anyway.
Is there a user-pref to turn off synchronisation completely?
No, all accounts need to be changed.
This might help:
/* This will parse the prefs.js and disable offline_download for each
IMAP account */
if (getPref(mail.accountmanager.accounts)) {
var listExistingAccounts = getPref(mail.accountmanager.accounts);
var arrayExistingAccounts = listExistingAccounts.split(',');
for (var i=0; i arrayExistingAccounts.length; i++) {
var serverFromAccount = getPref(mail.account. +
arrayExistingAccounts[i] + .server);
var configType = getPref(mail.server. + serverFromAccount +
.type);
if (configType == imap) {
lockPref(mail.server. + serverFromAccount +
.offline_download, false);
}
}
}
Locking prefs is very useful in a corporate environment. Just have a
look on the internet, there are tutorials for Thunderbird whch apply to
Seamonkey in the same way mostly.
Here's a doc about autoconfig, which needs to be used for the example
above: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/MCD
Thunderbird Example:
http://mit.edu/~thunderbird/www/maintainers/autoconfig.html
Every mail-account (there are around 10 in this profile) has Keep
messages for this account on this computer checked and seems to start
duplicating the mail store right away. This is a very bad idea.
That depends on the environment, for others that'S a very good idea ;-)
(e.g. dial-up users)
But I have noticed some other problems in the migration process:
* The profile is in the users home directory in our case, but the cache
folder was on a local harddrive. The migration moved the cache directory
back in the profile directory and thus on a mapped network drive, which
is bad.
* The location of the signature files of the mail accounts was changend
and the sig-files themselves were copied into the profile directory. Bad
because the sigs are shared with several users and should stay in their
place on the network, so changes have to be made only once and not for
every user.
that's the standard location in both cases, if you don't like it, you'll
need to change it. ;-)
(maybe autoconfig again?)
* Auto-update and extension installation is enabled. I dont want this,
because the installation is also shared and maintained on a network
drive. This needs to be turned off centrally.
Then disable it. ;-)
It'S in the GUI and of course there's a pref too if GUI is no option in
your case, just use the user.js or autoconfig.
for the app itself app.update.auto and/or app.update.enabled should be
of interest.
Also see: http://kb.mozillazine.org/App.update.enabled
What I need is a solution to convert around 20 user-profiles without any
user intervention. The users should just get SM2 in place of 1.1.18 with
all setting premigrated. I have read
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey but that doesn't
cover all these issues in depth.
That mainly covers home-environment where usually one or maybe 2 or 3
profiles are being migrated. Good luck with MCD/autoconfig ;-)
regards
Martin
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03
cmcadams schrieb: Nope. I _uninstalled_ SM1 once; profile was (and is) still present in the default location. SM2 was then installed, and this thread was the result. I see a little too much difference of opinion on ways and means, hereabouts, for total comfort. I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt a bit for the developers to establish some official, specific guidelines for manual profile transplants on the SM pages ... There is, but that doesn't help if you don't read them: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey This link is also mentioned in the Release Notes under the known issues: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.3/#issues The fact that your profile is not at the standard location results in not being imported automatically I guess. So just perform the necessary steps to migrate and you're done. regards Martin ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost inbox on 2.0.3 install
u...@domain.invalid schrieb: I just loaded Seamonkey v. 2.0.3 over 1.1.17 Bad idea. Read the first known issue: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.3/#issues and seem to have lost 43,000 messages in the Inbox. At least nothing is lost at all, your old profile is being migrated to a new directory so all your old data remains intact at the old location. See http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/for details on where that is. The install seemed normal and asked if i wanted to import a range of information, including mail which was selected. It imported all other boxes and profiles except my Inbox. Any suggestions appreciated. I'd suggest to install SM2 to a *new* directory, let it migrate your profile again and see if your inbox is fine. If it's not, try to copy your inbox file from the old SM1-pofile to the new SM2 profile (C:\Documents and Settings\%USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Mozilla\Seamonkey\...) and delete the inbox.msf file there. (all that while SM is closed of course) Hopefully this is not a filesystem issue, feel free to run chkdsk first. regards Martin ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't download this addon.
Ant schrieb: Ah thanks. How can I get that extension? I wonder if it is even compatible. :( SM version of this and many other extensions: http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#bugmenot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Progress Window Mockups
Martin F. wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb: http://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/DLProgress_Redesign Does that link there: https://bug513691.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=425508 indicate that scaling was implemented? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=538887 Or is it just bigger buttons at fixed size? That image was a proposal. The icons/buttons from that proposal were not implemented/committed (yet). As I see those Menu-items there when click on the source or the file I'm reminded of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499114 This regression should also be fixed when getting hands on that progress window if possible. Different bug, different problem, different solution. btw: I'd suggest to open the menus by right-clicking. Left click (or at least left double-click) should open the file when (double)clicking on the file-name or the downloadpage when (double)clicking the download-location. After that the window should close (see bug 499114 above) The problem there, as I see it, is consistency vs. discoverability. Currently it's consistent in that the twisties on the right of the file name and source hostname indicate that you can use the left mouse button (twisties always work like that). If you switched to the right mouse button for opening the menu then the twisties would have to go (because they inherently say left click me [1] but that would do nothing then) and be replaced by something else that indicated that a context menu is available (replacing it by nothing is not really an option because a simple string doesn't indicate that a context menu is available). [1] Random example: Web Developer Toolbar Basically I agree that the open/launch action should be triggered by a double click, though. I'd just go another way by providing a visual representation of the finished download through the system icon matching the download file type. See bug 513691 comment 80. Ah yeah, it doesn't seem to remember it's last coordinates/position, but always starts centered on the next download, that sucks ;-P I put it to a corner a dozen times a day because of that on every new download. (regression to SM1.1.x I think?) Can you please file a bug? I don't think we have one for that yet. Thanks. Greetings, Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03
Martin F. wrote: cmcadams schrieb: Nope. I _uninstalled_ SM1 once; profile was (and is) still present in the default location. SM2 was then installed, and this thread was the result. I see a little too much difference of opinion on ways and means, hereabouts, for total comfort. I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt a bit for the developers to establish some official, specific guidelines for manual profile transplants on the SM pages ... There is, but that doesn't help if you don't read them: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey I read that. Nothing there worked in my case. This link is also mentioned in the Release Notes under the known issues: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.3/#issues The fact that your profile is not at the standard location results in not being imported automatically I guess. So just perform the necessary steps to migrate and you're done. regards The profile was in the default location. It's the program files that were and are in a nonstandard location, on another partition. Yes, I adjusted the command line to point to the actual location. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems after upgrading SeaMonkey from v1.18 to v2.03
Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/11/2010 12:23 PM, cmcadams wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/11/2010 11:08 AM, cmcadams wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/11/2010 12:17 AM, cmcadams wrote: According to the received, or at least frequently expressed, wisdom, hereabouts, having SM1 and SM2 installed simultaneously may not be wise. :/ You can have both installed at the same time. You just need to take special steps if you want to run both at the same time. I'd be glad to know those steps, if you have a link. There is a command-line argument which you can pass to SM 2.X, named I think: -no-remote, which will allow SM 2.x to launch even though SM 1.1.X is currently running. Thanks. I think the issue in many of the comments I've read, though, is that of versions possibly stepping on each others' resources. They each have their own profile, so there is nothing for each other to step on. Do you have any evidence otherwise? Read replies to other messages of mine. Simple assertions that it is 'bad' to install multiple versions. No direct evidence, since I've never even tried to install two versions at the same time. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MD5 code for addons
On 3/11/10 2:34 PM, Ray_Net wrote: using: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ brings me: Official builds - MD5 sums ... etc and download of the file: MD5SUMS give me a list with MD5 codes for each .exe and .xpi So far so good. I have : 755fd656e29b60658fcab3954ccaa130 win32/en-US/SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.3.exe and fa17c257b2ae4bd24c8c76a1791b5097 langpack/seamonkey-2.0.3.fr.langpack.xpi BUT where can i find the MD5 code string for the french-classic-dictionary: addon-13369-latest.xpi ? A file of MD5 hashes is available via FTP when there is an update to SeaMonkey itself. However, that file does not contain any MD5 hashes for the partial .mar files. I know that the MD5 algorithm is now suspect. However, it does still serve well for checking to see if a downloaded file was corrupted in transit. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems after upgrading SeaMonkey from v1.18 to v2.03
Bill Davidsen wrote: John wrote: 1. Every time I start SeaMonkey v2.03, it asks for the master password for the software security device. This is in spite of the fact that in preferences-privacy security-master passwords I have checked the selection SeaMonkey will ask for your master password the first time it is needed. Surprisingly, if I click cancel on the password dialog box without entering the password, SeaMonkey starts normally. Although I apparently had entered a master password at some point with SeaMonkey v1.18, the program wasn't asking me for it. How do I make v2.03 stop asking me for the password? This is a VERY BIG PROBLEM for me. If having to tap the ESC key at boot is your biggest problem, you lead a dull existence. If you use a password you need to provide it. If you think no one could hack your computer, just turn security off. I've figured out a bit more of what is happening. The reason it asks for the password on startup seems to be related to the fact that I had the mail client set to check for new messages on startup. Even though I was starting only the browser, and not the news/mail program, apparently it was checking. After I turn this setting off, it no longer asks for the password when I start the browser. However, it still requires the password when I eventually go to read mail. The problem with turning security off, (resetting the master password) is that it deletes all of my stored passwords. There are a LOT of them, and I don't want to have to re-enter all of them manually. If necessary, I'll live with the master password, but I really don't like it. No one else uses this computer so it's not required. I *hope* this annoying situation will be fixed in the next release! Thanks for your reply. John -- Q: What's the quickest way to get a mailbox full of spam? A: Post a message in any newsgroup using a real email address. Please reply in this newsgroup. Thank you. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser crashes seamonkey whenever invoked since version 2.0
Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/11/2010 11:12 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: Why not just create a new profile and test using that? Normally you would, but he indicated as soon as you got to the browser SM dies (crashes) and if he should have set to open on web page rather than than mail news. what then?? if it will stay open long enough to do so by all means create a new profile. But he sounded as if as soon as SM opened it went to white screen then crashed. Why not launch the profile manager? At the very least, before you tell someone to delete a bunch of their files (for a test) at least advise them to back up the files first. That's the reason I suggested making back up copies of the mail and news folders, you can always re added your themes and extensions. If SM will allow you to open the Profile manager by all means open profile menu and setting up new profile. and see what happens. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Progress Window Mockups
On 3/11/2010 6:16 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote: Martin F. wrote: Ah yeah, it doesn't seem to remember it's last coordinates/position, but always starts centered on the next download, that sucks ;-P I put it to a corner a dozen times a day because of that on every new download. (regression to SM1.1.x I think?) Can you please file a bug? I don't think we have one for that yet. Thanks. ...and CC me, this in particular *should* be easily fixable, and if approved I can even port it to the stable branch, so it would be in the next SM2 security/stability release. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser crashes seamonkey whenever invoked since version 2.0
On 3/11/2010 6:30 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/11/2010 11:12 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: Why not just create a new profile and test using that? Normally you would, but he indicated as soon as you got to the browser SM dies (crashes) and if he should have set to open on web page rather than than mail news. what then?? if it will stay open long enough to do so by all means create a new profile. But he sounded as if as soon as SM opened it went to white screen then crashed. Why not launch the profile manager? At the very least, before you tell someone to delete a bunch of their files (for a test) at least advise them to back up the files first. That's the reason I suggested making back up copies of the mail and news folders, you can always re added your themes and extensions. There's more there. Hopefully, no one will actually take your advice so I suspect it doesn't really matter. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems after upgrading SeaMonkey from v1.18 to v2.03
On 3/11/2010 5:06 PM, cmcadams wrote: Read replies to other messages of mine. Simple assertions that it is 'bad' to install multiple versions. No direct evidence, since I've never even tried to install two versions at the same time. Yes, I've read all the messages, thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
