Re: Lastpass addon for SM on win 10

[Ed Mullen]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Ken Harris wrote:
I've used Lastpass for years as addon under Win 7. Just moved to Win 
10 and cannot install. Lastpass says it's only available for Firefox. 
Is this true?



Sorta -- but you can get an older version of Lastpass to work (mostly) 
with SM under Win 10. Search the archives of this newsgroup for hints 
about which version can still be made to work; sorry I don't have that 
information handy.


I don't know what the newest version of LP is but I'm using 3.3.4 with 
SM 2.49.4 on Win 10.  Works fine.


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Macros

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In SeaMonkey 2.49 the "macros" item is  missing from tools menu. Anyone 
know where it went?


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Re: Should the size of the memory cache be a setting in preferences?

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Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2019-02-27, Dirk Munk wrote:



My friendly advise to the Seamonkey developers would be to go over all
the settings, and remove memory constraints. Yes, it will increase the
memory footprint of 64 bit Seamonkey, but if a user has a problem with
that, he should increase the memory in his system, or stick to the 32
bit version.


I'd say "increase" the setting, not "remove" the constraint.


My experience with removing memory constraints is that applications
become much more stable as well. No hangs, no crashes etc.


This setting is named "memory cache". What does this do, exactly? If it
is actually about caching content from the Internet, wouldn't increasing
it only make sense if you request the same content several times?

Or is this setting actually controlling how much memory Seamonkey can
allocate for any purpose?



This may help:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.cache.memory.capacity

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Re: is it possible to add/correct signons with sqlite?

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David H. Durgee wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:


I am encountering a problem where my power company has made changes to
their website and my remembered password is no longer used and I cannot
find a way to get SM 2.49.5 to remember it on the new page.

Given this is it possible for me to manually add or correct the signon
with sqlite tools?  I opened the db with SQLite manager in SM and can
see the entry.  I did NOT attempt to make changes there as I suspect
that would cause problems with SM open.  I assume other SQLite tools
would offer similar capabilities and could be used with SM closed.


In previous versions, if you entered new data for a site where the
Password Manager had remembered your login/password, the PM would prompt
you to update or not. Doesn't it do that anymore?

Failing that, my next fallback would be to go into the PM and delete the
site. Then login and the PM will ask whether to save the data, you
should approve.

I like the old interface:

Enter the site name in the search window to see a short list with only
that word.



I also use the old interface, but the problem is the power company
changed the URL where the username/password are requested and for
whatever reason I cannot get SM to remember this login.  My hope is that
I can copy the existing entry and edit the URL to the new one and have
it used.

Dave



Well, I just found out that as best I can tell signons.sqlite is no
longer being used by SM 2.49.5 for password management.  Looking a bit
more it seems that logins.json is where this is now being maintained.

Guess I will have to see if I can edit that file instead to update the
login for this website.

Dave



This might shed some light on it:

<http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey#Files_and_folders_in_the_profile>

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Re: Columns mixed up in transmitting e-mails

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Mort Linder wrote:

Hi,

I am running Windows 7, with SeaMonkey IMAP e-mail.

When I carefully type and send an e-mail, with some important data in 
columns, the received message has the columns all mixed up, so that the 
data are often illegible. This just happened again when I was trying to 
make dates with a pretty girl pianist to go to classical music concerts 
with me.


What can I do to have the e-mail received in exactly the same format as 
when I send it?


Thanks.

Mort Linder

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Re: Help~ Lost Side Panel

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Lori wrote:
Lost my left-side panel of all Inbox folders and subfolders with mucho 
mail.

All I can see is the message section.
This happened once before a long time ago and I don't remember the fix.

Lori


View - Layout - Folder Pane
or F9

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Re: Password/Data Manager Export

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cyberzen wrote:

Ed Mullen a écrit :
You can export signons.sqlite to CSV using a utility.  Google is your 
friend.


https://tinyurl.com/ycz9kz8c


signons.sqlite ?
where it is ?


In your profile folder:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey

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Re: Password/Data Manager Export

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Hawker wrote:
Is there any way to export from the Data manager to some other format 
(Text file, CSV file etc) ?  Specifically I want to export all my 
password - site, user name, password (un-encrypted. I realize I can view 
one at a time in the Data manager but I want to export all of them.


This is to make a back up list, not to transfer to a different 
browser/computer. Using a cloud sync service is not an acceptable option 
for security reasons.


Google leads me to a possible extension called
password_exporter-1.2.1-mod.xpi
https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/password-exporter/reviews/ 


But I am unable to find a location to actually download it from.


You can export signons.sqlite to CSV using a utility.  Google is your 
friend.


https://tinyurl.com/ycz9kz8c



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Re: constipated email on occasion

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Daniel wrote:
Just occured to me ... most of my time on-line, I am connected to news 
servers (either this moz one or UseNet). Does SM still check my ISP 
provided POP3 mail account even though I'm connected to a News Server 
somewhere??




Yes

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

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Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 16-12-18 09:53:
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into 
another folder and then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by 
design?


Could you copy a file in the same directory of the same hard-disk on 
your pc ?


CTRL-C then CTRL-V would it create the same file with the same name ?


Windows 10 will use the same file name and append " - Copy" to it.


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Re: Why did the Account open?

[Ed Mullen]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


In my experience, as long as any component of SM is open, it will try 
to get mail on schedule. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.


Actually, my experience is that if you open the browser only, no mail 
is downloaded until you then open the mail component of SM.


This may be due to a difference in settings. My default on launching SM 
is mail/news, so the only way I can get to browser alone is to launch 
SM, open the browser, and close mail/news. Perhaps M/N behaves like a 
TSR and only appears to be closed while secretly remaining open.


Edit | Preferences | Appearance
When SeaMonkey starts up, open
[ ] Browser
[x] Mail & Newsgroups
[ ] Composer
[ ] Address Book
[ ] Chatzilla



That could be it:  mine is set to only open the browser.

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Re: Why did the Account open?

[Ed Mullen]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


As shown in my Sig-file, I dual boot Win7 and Linux.

Normally when I open SM, on either OS, I start the M and Chatzilla 
screens and then, if needed, I manually open a Browser Screen.


Today, I was going to download a new MageiaLinux OS, Ver 7 Beta, on my 
current Linux OS, by connecting to my sisters Wireless System, so 
didn't want my M checking my Mail as my ISP would charge me extra 
for getting my Mail via a third party, So, before connecting to the 
Internet, I started SM and reduced my Mail Account to just its name 
and then went into Prefs and set "Appearance" to just start the 
Browser when I clicked on the SM Desktop icon.


I closed SM, connected to the wireless Internet and then started SM 
and the browser came up, as desired.


Then I clicked on the M icon in the lower left of the screen, so I 
could open my UseNet account and go to the Mageia group so I could get 
the address to get the OS download from. However, when the M screen 
opened, my mail account was expanded, so I'm guessing SM tried to get 
my mail, via my sister's ISP, which is going to cost me extra.


If I close the e-mail account so it's just a single line, and then 
close SM and then open SM (browser only) and then open the M screen, 
should to mail account be open ... and a signal sent off to collect 
any mail??


If this is the case, then how come SM M doesn't also open with the 
'Local Folders' and my two other news accounts (including this Mozilla 
server) open and getting any messages from those accounts??


In my experience, as long as any component of SM is open, it will try to 
get mail on schedule. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.


Actually, my experience is that if you open the browser only, no mail is 
downloaded until you then open the mail component of SM.

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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

[Ed Mullen]

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/11/2018 12:00 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 04:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:



Had problems with my WinXP machine.
Just ran your css suggestions. Still didn't get what I was looking for.
Are we describing the same thing.
I've a sample of desired output (1.9kB).
If the server does not accept attachments, where can I post it?
TIA


mozilla.test.multimedia accepts attachments.



Wouldn't this thread be OT there?





Well, yes, but I'm not suggesting putting the entire thread there, just 
a post with the image/attachment.


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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

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Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 04:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:



Had problems with my WinXP machine.
Just ran your css suggestions. Still didn't get what I was looking for.
Are we describing the same thing.
I've a sample of desired output (1.9kB).
If the server does not accept attachments, where can I post it?
TIA


mozilla.test.multimedia accepts attachments.


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Re: Cox Webmail Access Blocked

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Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Cecil Bankston wrote:
I usually use my SeaMonkey browser to access my Cox Webmail to mark 
the spam messages the
Cox filter misses before I download new messages with SeaMonkey Mail.  
SeaMonkey Mail
still accesses the account normally; but recently, after I enter my 
address and password
on the Cox Webmail sign-in page I get a new pop-up saying 
"Authentication Required" and
"https://myemail.cox.net is requesting your username and password. The 
site says: “OX
WebDAV”.   Even if I re-enter the username and password, the same 
pop-up returns, blocking

my webmail access.

Edge browser accesses the webmail page normally.

Can anyone suggest what may have changed to cause this issue and what 
might be done to

correct it?


My opinion:
Cox changed their access parameters.  They will of course deny it and
blame the user for an unsupported browser.  That is normal ISP behavior.

A couple of thing you can try:
Change your UI string to not show SeaMonkey at all.  The word "SeaMonkey"
   tends to confuse isp's sniffers.
Make sure SSL is not checked and only TLS 1.1 and higher is checked.




And allow cookies and javascript.


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Re: User agent settings for Seamonkey

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Chuck wrote:
For those of us who are not experts in this sort of thing would someone 
post an explaination of this?

Chuck




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Re: Updated to Win10 1803 and SM 2.49.3 Still Works OK

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On 5/11/2018 at 11:39 AM, Arnie Goetchius created this epitome of 
digital genius:

No problems with the new version of Win 10 1803 running on test computer. 
Fingers crossed



You might not even be able to update Windows.

<https://hothardware.com/news/these-intel-ssds-blocked-microsofts-windows-10-april-2018-update>

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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

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On 5/8/2018 at 12:07 PM, Ray_Net created this epitome of digital genius:
Ok, Ok, but if the correction is possible thru an addon, It would be not 
so difficult to put the code of the addon into the source of TB.


I did not know what a "bustage" is google-translate cannot help me in 
french.





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not working properly.


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Re: google maps

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On 4/27/2018 at 9:54 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 27/04/18 06:11:
You might need to use a generic Firefox UA to use google. This is now 
broken for over a year and has been reported by various users. Google 
doesn't care.


2.49.3 is almost ready. Got delayed because of a hardware problem with 
the last macOS builder. Should show up next week at the latest. Build 
is in post-processing and for all I know the final. Just mop up and 
moving it now:


https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.49.3-candidates/build2/ 



FRG


Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

Smiles a écrit le 26/04/2018 à 21:10 :

google maps no longer likes SeaMonkey what changes do I do change to
view a map

thanks



May you can update Seamonkey, the latest is 2.49.2 :
<https://www.seamonkey-project.org/>

I don't log into Google Maps all that often, once a month maybe, but it 
has continued to function for me up to and including SM 2.49.2 just last 
week!!




+1

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Re: National Zoo Panda Cams

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On 4/17/2018 at 12:47 AM, Paul in Houston, TX created this epitome of 
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xxyyz wrote:

On 2018-04-16 11:44 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

xxyyz wrote:

SM 2.49.2,  WXP - what do I need to change and/or add to get
the Smithsonian panda cams at
  http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/WebCams/giant-panda.cfm
to play?


I can't get any of the three cams (lion, panda, elephant) to work 
with SM or IE11.
They all say "Stream Unavailable".  Clicking on the start arrow does 
not send a packet,

at least not for me anyways.
Sounds to me like the cams are not working.

Thank you, Paul.  But all four work on the iPad - so is it
Windows or SeaMonkey or a missing codec or ... ?


Interesting!  Pehaps they only work on Pads, phones, etc.


Working here on SeaMonkey 2.49.2 and Firefox 59.0.2.

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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

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On 4/15/2018 at 12:28 PM, WaltS48 created this epitome of digital genius:

On 4/15/18 11:16 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
On 4/15/2018 at 2:22 AM, Mozilla User created this epitome of digital 
genius:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. 
Read more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are 
about to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal 
user for about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. 
It's just a pain in the neck to keep switching between browsers for 
certain websites. I like having one browser for everything.






Add this to your prefs.js file with SM  closed:

user_pref("general.useragent.override.usps.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


That way you'll still be reporting as SeaMonkey on all other sites 
which is good as it lets site owners know about SeaMoney.







I get the alert message actually using Firefox 50.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0

Clicking the Read More link informs the user that the site compatible 
versions are "Compatible Versions: 59, 58.0.1".




Even spoofing FF59 will get the initial red banner. If you click Read 
More you'll get this:



Good news — your browser is up to date.

You can continue to access all USPS.com features with your current 
browser version.


Thank you for using USPS.com!


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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

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On 4/15/2018 at 2:22 AM, Mozilla User created this epitome of digital 
genius:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. Read 
more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are about 
to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal user for 
about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. It's just a 
pain in the neck to keep switching between browsers for certain 
websites. I like having one browser for everything.


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user_pref("general.useragent.override.usps.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


That way you'll still be reporting as SeaMonkey on all other sites which 
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Re: Seamonkey stupid

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On 4/11/2018 at 1:55 PM, Ray_Net created this epitome of digital genius:

Ed Mullen wrote on 11-04-18 19:42:

On 4/11/2018 at 8:25 AM, WaltS48 created this epitome of digital genius:

On 4/11/18 2:15 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 06:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?


Why are we obliged to do so ?



It's something called CYA. You can set SeaMonkey to "Automatically 
save the message every 1 minute".


Where is this pref in the UI?



Edit - Preference - Mails - Composition - Atomatically...


Duh!  Thanks.


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Re: Seamonkey stupid

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On 4/11/2018 at 8:25 AM, WaltS48 created this epitome of digital genius:

On 4/11/18 2:15 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 06:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?


Why are we obliged to do so ?



It's something called CYA. You can set SeaMonkey to "Automatically save 
the message every 1 minute".


Where is this pref in the UI?


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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

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On 4/9/2018 at 11:55 AM, Jonathan N. Little created this epitome of 
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Ed Mullen wrote:
On 4/9/2018 at 10:14 AM, Cecil Bankston created this epitome of 
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Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display 
their included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, 
and the block images box is not checked.  An example of this is 
messages I receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A 
"View it in your browser" link in one of these messages points to 
this page: 
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc 

The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do 
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any 
scripts on that page.


Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in 
these messages?


Same here.  If I restart in Safe Mode all the Web page images load.  
No idea what's causing it.




WFM. I would go into data manager and lookup domain and delete the 
permissions for that domain. Then try again.


Tried that, no joy.

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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

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On 4/9/2018 at 10:14 AM, Cecil Bankston created this epitome of digital 
genius:
Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display their 
included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and the 
block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I 
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in your 
browser" link in one of these messages points to this page: 
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc 

The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do 
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any 
scripts on that page.


Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these 
messages?


Same here.  If I restart in Safe Mode all the Web page images load.  No 
idea what's causing it.


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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

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On 4/3/2018 at 8:47 AM, Bill Spikowski created this epitome of digital 
genius:

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:
For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my 
bookmarks the same on several computers.


A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to 
a commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and 
the fee was modest.


Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it 
into Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass 
made this announcement:



On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.


What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?


As long as you're not using SM on more than one of those computers at 
the same time, there's no reason why you can't move your SM profile 
(which includes the bookmarks) to a cloud service, and then sync that 
folder on multiple computers through the cloud service.


I currently have my SM profile on OneDrive, which both my desktop and 
laptop are sync'd to. When I grab the laptop for a road trip, all my 
current bookmarks (and emails!) are there; when I return home, 
everything I did on the road is already on my desktop.  -JW


I hadn't ever considered doing that; I see how it could work.

But I notice that Seamonkey sometimes doesn't shut down properly; a 
process is still running in the background. I'd hardly even notice but 
when that happens, the email module keeps downloading IMAP messages from 
the server, which means I can't see new messages from my other 
computers. That's not really a big problem, but I'm trying to imagine 
what might happen if my profile is located on a cloud service and SM is 
still running on another computer...


I've never had to kill SM, never seen it refuse to close.  It does 
sometimes take 10 or 15 seconds to shut down as it's doing some 
housekeeping.



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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

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On 4/1/2018 at 1:05 AM, cmcadams created this epitome of digital genius:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/31/2018 6:49 PM, cmcadams wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/31/2018 11:23 AM, EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Trying a user.js didn't work.

prefs.js didn't wish to be changed...tried both Windows 7 Notepad and
DOS Edit, but evidently didn't know the right save options, because
after running SM the new entry disappeared. Rejected by SM, I 
suppose.


If an entry into user.js is not recognized by SeaMonkey as being 
valid,

it will not appear in about:config.  This includes errors in syntax in
the setting, and also settings that are simply not recognized.  The
format for entries in user.js is the same as that for prefs.js.



To check whether SeaMonkey loaded all of user.js into prefs.js
successfully, insert
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "user.js load failed");
as the very first line of user.js and
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "yes");
as the very last line of user.js, all with SeaMonkey not running.  Note
that the semicolon (;) is required.

Then, launch SeaMonkey and enter about:config in the address area (URI
bar).  You should see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  yes
if the entire user.js file was okay.  If there was a problem, you will
instead see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  user.js load failed

This also works with Thunderbird and should work (but I have not tested
it) with Firefox.



Thank you, I've saved this.

Does anyone know for certain which Windows programs will work to edit 
and save SM
config files? And with what settings? Are they ASCII? ANSI? I figured 
that's where I

went wrong, trying to edit prefs.js.



The prefs.js file is plain ASCII text.  Unlike Daniel, I prefer always
using Wordpad.  I even set Wordpad as the default appplication for when
I select "Edit" on the context menu for all .js files.


So at least there's no need to worry about that. I can just right-click 
"Open with" and use Notepad or Wordpad depending on size.




If using Wordpad just make sure that you Save As Text. There are other 
formats WP can use that will totally screw up your file.




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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

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On 3/31/2018 at 2:38 PM, cmcadams created this epitome of digital genius:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/30/18 10:25 PM, cmcadams wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:
On 3/30/2018 at 10:45 AM, Marisa Ciceran created this epitome of 
digital genius:
As of about a week ago, when I log into my Chase accounts account 
using SM 2.49.2 on my Windows 7 desktop and laptops, it goes to the 
following page:


https://m.chase.com/secure.html?newstoken=false=https%3A%2F%2Fm.chase.com%2Findex.html=success
<

Re: prefs.js is not for user manipulation

[Ed Mullen]

On 3/30/2018 at 3:13 PM, Felix Miata created this epitome of digital genius:

Ed Mullen composed on 2018-03-30 11:32 (UTC-0400):


You simply need to use a different user agent string when going to
chase.com.  Add this to your prefs.js:



user_pref("general.useragent.override.chase.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows
NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


Never add anything to prefs.js if you're not 200% certain you know what you are
doing and how to undo the damage from a mistake. Either include it in user.js,
or include via about:config. User.js is an optional file that SM will only read,
never write.



"When you launch your Mozilla application, valid preferences you've 
added to the user.js file are automatically copied to the prefs.js file 
(located in the same profile folder) where all user-set preferences are 
stored. For this reason, you should make a backup copy of the prefs.js 
file before you create or edit the user.js file."


http://kb.mozillazine.org/User.js_file

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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

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On 3/30/2018 at 10:45 AM, Marisa Ciceran created this epitome of digital 
genius:
As of about a week ago, when I log into my Chase accounts account using 
SM 2.49.2 on my Windows 7 desktop and laptops, it goes to the following 
page:


https://m.chase.com/secure.html?newstoken=false=https%3A%2F%2Fm.chase.com%2Findex.html=success

Re: Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey

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On 3/20/2018 at 10:22 AM, TCW created this epitome of digital genius:

On 3/20/2018 9:10 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 3/20/2018 at 9:55 AM, TCW created this epitome of digital genius:

On 3/20/2018 8:36 AM, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
If I use SeaMonkey (2.49.2 which seems to be the latest version) for 
a while and visit different sites and open and close windows and 
such, eventually it gets to the point where it slows down to the 
point of almost hanging and I need to close a bunch of windows 
(which takes ages since SeaMonkey is running so slow) before 
SeaMonkey will start being usable again. In some cases I have to 
force-close SeaMonkey completly because its totally hung and simply 
wont respond to my inputs.


I have noticed that using Google Maps and panning around is a great 
way to make this hanging/freezing/etc happen faster.


The last time it totally hung Task Manager told me there was almost 
no free physical memory (I have a total of 8GB) and that SeaMonkey 
was using a very large amount of RAM. I also noticed that when I 
attached to SM with a debugger, it was hanging somewhere in the 
windows memory allocation code (i.e. that was what was on top of the 
call stack) with some mozglue memory allocation code the next thing 
after the windows code.


Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there a 
bugzilla bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything that 
can be done to mitigate or work around the issue? Could one of my 
plugins (I use Addblock, ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Geolocater, 
JavaScript Debugger and User Agent Switcher as extentions plus 
Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, Silverlight, Window Live Photos and Flash as 
plugins) be the cause of the problems?


Yes, I have seen this as well. I am using a build of SM 2.53 and I've 
seen it happen browsing regular sites. It seems to be either a memory 
leak or the browser not releasing memory though garbage collection / 
cycle collection. I would not hold out hope for a fix since there are 
not many people working on SM at the moment.


I'm not seeing this at all.  SM 2.49.2 Win 10 Pro 64-bit.

I suspect an add-on or combination of add-ons.  I suggest trying Safe 
Mode to see if that is it.




I thought it was an add-on as well. Frank-Reiner had me switch to uBlock 
as I too thought ABP was culprit. Nope. I can 100% repro it when 
browsing on Momondo and AirBNB for a short period of time (15-30 
minutes) on my home or office PC. I'm on Win 7 x64 but I doubt it makes 
any difference.


Have you tried Safe Mode?

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Re: Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey

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On 3/20/2018 at 9:55 AM, TCW created this epitome of digital genius:

On 3/20/2018 8:36 AM, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
If I use SeaMonkey (2.49.2 which seems to be the latest version) for a 
while and visit different sites and open and close windows and such, 
eventually it gets to the point where it slows down to the point of 
almost hanging and I need to close a bunch of windows (which takes 
ages since SeaMonkey is running so slow) before SeaMonkey will start 
being usable again. In some cases I have to force-close SeaMonkey 
completly because its totally hung and simply wont respond to my inputs.


I have noticed that using Google Maps and panning around is a great 
way to make this hanging/freezing/etc happen faster.


The last time it totally hung Task Manager told me there was almost no 
free physical memory (I have a total of 8GB) and that SeaMonkey was 
using a very large amount of RAM. I also noticed that when I attached 
to SM with a debugger, it was hanging somewhere in the windows memory 
allocation code (i.e. that was what was on top of the call stack) with 
some mozglue memory allocation code the next thing after the windows 
code.


Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there a 
bugzilla bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything that 
can be done to mitigate or work around the issue? Could one of my 
plugins (I use Addblock, ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Geolocater, 
JavaScript Debugger and User Agent Switcher as extentions plus 
Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, Silverlight, Window Live Photos and Flash as 
plugins) be the cause of the problems?


Yes, I have seen this as well. I am using a build of SM 2.53 and I've 
seen it happen browsing regular sites. It seems to be either a memory 
leak or the browser not releasing memory though garbage collection / 
cycle collection. I would not hold out hope for a fix since there are 
not many people working on SM at the moment.


I'm not seeing this at all.  SM 2.49.2 Win 10 Pro 64-bit.

I suspect an add-on or combination of add-ons.  I suggest trying Safe 
Mode to see if that is it.


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Re: scrambled columns in sending e-mails

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On 3/18/2018 at 12:54 PM, Mort Linder created this epitome of digital 
genius:

Hi,

I have a recurring problem.  type up an e-mail with neat vertical 
columns, and the recipient (and my SENT box) gets scrambled results, 
making it difficult or impossible to properly read the e-mail.


How can I send out e-mails that retain my columnar structure?

Thanks,

Mort Linder

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus



How are you making the columns?  In plain text using spaces?  Inserting 
a table?  Composing in plain text or HTML?


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Re: Combining Bookmarks folders

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On 3/13/2018 at 2:25 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:

Ed Mullen wrote on 13/03/18 01:29:

On 3/12/2018 at 9:03 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:
I'm trying to combine two Bookmarks folders to ensure I have a single 
listing of all the websites whos content I have been interested in 
over the years.


I've added the second bookmarks file to the first bookmarks file 
which has given me a listing with lots of doubled up sub-directories, 
e.g. two "General" directories, two "Financial" directories, two 
"Mozilla" directories, etc., etc..


If I, now, export the file as a HTML file (Tools->Export HTML...) 
would I then be able to edit that file in LibreOffice, or some such, 
delete all the twins, combine what's left and the import it back into 
SeaMonkey (Tools->Import HTML ..).


If not, could someone offer another suggestion?

Thanks.



Why not just edit it in SeaMonkey's bookmarks manager?

I started doing that, Ed, but there are lots and lots of sub-folders 
with lots of locations/websites in each. Probable 300 in original folder 
and similar in the other!


Don't I remember some add-on that would go through the Bookmarks folder 
and indicate any double-ups?? Maybe that's what EE is about to tell me!! 
Nope, so still looking!




Google is your friend?

<https://www.google.com/search?q=seamonkey%20bookmark%20duplicate_rd=ssl>


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Re: Combining Bookmarks folders

[Ed Mullen]

On 3/12/2018 at 9:03 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:
I'm trying to combine two Bookmarks folders to ensure I have a single 
listing of all the websites whos content I have been interested in over 
the years.


I've added the second bookmarks file to the first bookmarks file which 
has given me a listing with lots of doubled up sub-directories, e.g. two 
"General" directories, two "Financial" directories, two "Mozilla" 
directories, etc., etc..


If I, now, export the file as a HTML file (Tools->Export HTML...) would 
I then be able to edit that file in LibreOffice, or some such, delete 
all the twins, combine what's left and the import it back into SeaMonkey 
(Tools->Import HTML ..).


If not, could someone offer another suggestion?

Thanks.



Why not just edit it in SeaMonkey's bookmarks manager?

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Re: Change User Agent for one domain only

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On 3/7/2018 at 12:13 PM, Hawker created this epitome of digital genius:

Could use some advise on User Agent switching.

I am currently using User Agent Switcher.
I find using it, and updating the UAs in it anything less than intuitive.

What I mostly want to do is have all Google domain use default to the 
current FireFox UA as much of Google does not work properly with 
Seamonkey's UA but works fine when I switch it. I can't see how to lock 
that in with User Agent Switcher. I want everything else to default to 
Seamonkey.


The other thing that would be nice is to easily toggle between two 
different user agents. The one for SM and the FireFox one for the same 
Geko revision as easily as I do with AutoPlay.


Is there a way to do either of these?  Am I just an idiot on using User 
Agent Switcher?


Add to prefs.js ...

user_pref("general.useragent.override.google.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


I use this for chase.com which is ignorant of SM and tells me to upgrade 
my browser.



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Re: SM locks up when on FoxNews.com

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On 3/7/2018 at 12:05 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital genius:

DoctorBill wrote:

I look to FoxNews often.
Of late, SM becomes simply unresponsive - especially to the Login.

If left alone, a message comes up about a script running, etc.

How do I stop any web site from running scripts ?
If I can't, what can I do to prevent these lock ups (a script running) ?

DoctorBill


I just downloaded "NoScript" and started it up.

It confuses an old man like me !

How do I make it stop FoxNews.com's Scripts ?


Don't know NoScript but you can temporarily turn off javascript at:

Edit - Preferences - Advanced - Scripts and Plugins.

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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

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On 2/23/2018 at 1:02 PM, Ed Mullen created this epitome of digital genius:
On 2/23/2018 at 12:44 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital 
genius:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe 
for spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I 
don't remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  
- IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive 
of one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to 
right at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill


Try just *spag* instead. Make sure you have the correct drive selected 
in Windows Explorer (yes, that's what it's called).




Oops!  That should read AsteriskspagAsterisk.  Just in case your SM 
transforms that into bold and doesn't show the asterisks.


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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

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On 2/23/2018 at 12:44 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital genius:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe for 
spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I don't 
remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  - 
IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive of 
one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to right 
at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill


Try just *spag* instead. Make sure you have the correct drive selected 
in Windows Explorer (yes, that's what it's called).


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Re: Stitching together multiple page HTML into single page.

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On 2/23/2018 at 7:12 AM, Richard Owlett created this epitome of digital 
genius:

On 02/22/2018 09:07 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
On 2/22/2018 at 5:43 AM, Richard Owlett created this epitome of 
digital genius:
There are sites containing relatively complex documentation. The 
authors chose to break it down in chunks of one HTML page per section.


That is convenient for those viewing it online. I read that level of 
documentation offline. I prefer it as a single page format so I can 
easily text search across section boundaries.


Suggestions?
TIA




A quick search turned up:

<http://softsnow.griffin3.com/merger/merger.shtml>

Not used it myself.



That is the type of program I'm looking for.
What were your search terms? I didn't know what to search for.
I'm looking for a Linux program, but do have a dusty WinXP machine nearby.



"html merge" no quotes


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Re: Stitching together multiple page HTML into single page.

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/22/2018 at 5:43 AM, Richard Owlett created this epitome of digital 
genius:
There are sites containing relatively complex documentation. The authors 
chose to break it down in chunks of one HTML page per section.


That is convenient for those viewing it online. I read that level of 
documentation offline. I prefer it as a single page format so I can 
easily text search across section boundaries.


Suggestions?
TIA




Well, the simple (most tedious) way is to open file 1 in a text editor, 
open file 2, copy file 2's code and paste it into file 1.  Save file 1 
with a new name.  etc.  You'll likely get odd things happening, 
especially if the pages are from different sites.


Also, Google something like "merge html" no quotes.

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Re: Stitching together multiple page HTML into single page.

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/22/2018 at 5:43 AM, Richard Owlett created this epitome of digital 
genius:
There are sites containing relatively complex documentation. The authors 
chose to break it down in chunks of one HTML page per section.


That is convenient for those viewing it online. I read that level of 
documentation offline. I prefer it as a single page format so I can 
easily text search across section boundaries.


Suggestions?
TIA




A quick search turned up:

<http://softsnow.griffin3.com/merger/merger.shtml>

Not used it myself.

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Re: Stitching together multiple page HTML into single page.

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/22/2018 at 7:19 AM, Paul B. Gallagher created this epitome of 
digital genius:

Richard Owlett wrote:

There are sites containing relatively complex documentation. The 
authors chose to break it down in chunks of one HTML page per section.


That is convenient for those viewing it online. I read that level of 
documentation offline. I prefer it as a single page format so I can 
easily text search across section boundaries.


Suggestions?
TIA


In Google, search as follows:
 "owlett" site:flurbish.com
which will find all instances of the search string in the named domain.

Then open each hit in a new window while keeping the list open for later 
use.




Paul, that search returned:

"Your search - "owlett" site:flurbish.com - did not match any documents."

Not sure what you were trying to accomplish.

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Re: Strange punctuation randomly inserted in email

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On 2/21/2018 at 11:17 PM, cmcadams created this epitome of digital genius:
This is interesting. As an experiment I changed my SM 2.49.2 default 
SMTP from smtp.att.yahoo.com to smtp.gmail.com. Then I tried repeating 
the example I tried before with the same results. BUT...Seamonkey was 
NOT using Gmail's SMTP server, if the box that pops up after you click 
Send is a true indication. It was still using att.yahoo.com.


Either something's wrong or PEBKAC...


Change the SMTP server for the email account itself.  It may be set to 
use a specific server instead of the default.



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Re: SeaMonkey Windows 64bits

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On 2/20/2018 at 9:04 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl created this epitome of 
digital genius:

10 comes with edge but IE can be installed too for backwards compatibility.

Both are ... but you can use them to download SeaMonkey or another 
browser of you choice:)


<https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-networking-winpc/how-to-locate-and-open-internet-explorer-in/4b067f8b-a0dc-4fba-9e63-00fb14ea82e8?auth=1>

http://tinyurl.com/ybe92nhb


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Re: [half-solved] Re: How to remoce a proposal of a text-input zone of a form.

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On 2/15/2018 at 1:16 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl created this epitome of 
digital genius:

 > The question is: Where is located this list or proposals ?

formhistory.sqlite in the profile

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote on 15-02-18 17:08:

Hi !
In a form I filled a field with "44101937945" and then once I typed 
"4" now he offers me both - how to remove the second proposal "4" 
from the list ?


Deleting cookies doesnot work.


I say "half-solved" because I found the way to remove the second 
proposal.
When the second proposal is high-lighted - just click on the "delete" 
key.


So far, so good.
The question is: Where is located this list or proposals ?


I believe it's in your profile folder in formhistory.sqlite.

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Re: Composer Integration into Mail

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On 2/7/2018 at 11:33 AM, Richard Owlett created this epitome of digital 
genius:
As an end user, I would like to see it kept as long as possible. It 
allows me create simple HTML pages for use on my own machine.




For folks seeking an alternative to Composer try Kompozer, Blue Griffon, 
and others.


<http://www.hostsearch.com/articles/the-5-best-free-wysiwyg-alternatives-to-dreamweaver.asp>


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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

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On 2/8/2018 at 5:34 AM, meagain created this epitome of digital genius:

 Original Message 

Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/ 



Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch wood"?!? ;-P



Ewong, the American English idiom is "knock on wood" - is that what you 
meant?


Actually, both of those are American idioms.

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Re: SeaMonkey as remedy for a {youtube|gmail|cookie|OAuth 2.0} problem?

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On 2/7/2018 at 11:03 AM, Richard Owlett created this epitome of digital 
genius:

My use of SeaMonkey dates from preferences evolved in Netscape days.
My brother (using Firefox on Windows 10) for browsing and gmail has 
noticed recent problems. His problem description is anonymously viewing 
youtube videos triggers a burst of unsolicited emails.


I'm a Linux user with no interest in videos and who avoids social media 
like the plague since contact with Facebook years ago. Thus I've no 
personal experience to help interpret his descriptions. I can not 
personally observe the problem as he lives 1000 miles away.

You can using Teamviewer.  It's free.

https://www.teamviewer.us/downloads/

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Re: Composer Integration into Mail

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On 2/7/2018 at 9:21 AM, Ed Mullen created this epitome of digital genius:
On 2/6/2018 at 11:05 PM, Ken Jarstad created this epitome of digital 
genius:
Although SM Composer is built-in there seems no easy way to simply 
import a new web page into SM Mail and save it as a template. When I 
create a new web page with SM Composer with fancy backgrounds and so 
on I have to copy the HTML source and use Insert/HTML and paste it 
into the Mail/Compose dialog box. That isn't so bad - and I think my 
wife could learn to do that - but then, inserting the HTML - I find 
that the Compose message box has been stripped of any background 
elements. And further, examining the HTML code in the Compose message 
reveals that SM has taken considerable liberty to re-arrange the code! 
What's up with that?


Use a mail compose window as if you were creating an email.  Put 
whatever HTML styling in that you want.  Click the Save button and 
choose Template. In the future, right-click that template and choose 
Edit As New.


Composer is for creating a Web page, not an email template.



Oh, I forgot to mention that the Composer part of SM has not been 
maintained/developed in years.


http://tinyurl.com/yazvpz98

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Re: Composer Integration into Mail

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On 2/6/2018 at 11:05 PM, Ken Jarstad created this epitome of digital genius:

Although SM Composer is built-in there seems no easy way to simply import a new 
web page into SM Mail and save it as a template. When I create a new web page 
with SM Composer with fancy backgrounds and so on I have to copy the HTML 
source and use Insert/HTML and paste it into the Mail/Compose dialog box. That 
isn't so bad - and I think my wife could learn to do that - but then, inserting 
the HTML - I find that the Compose message box has been stripped of any 
background elements. And further, examining the HTML code in the Compose 
message reveals that SM has taken considerable liberty to re-arrange the code! 
What's up with that?


Use a mail compose window as if you were creating an email.  Put 
whatever HTML styling in that you want.  Click the Save button and 
choose Template. In the future, right-click that template and choose 
Edit As New.


Composer is for creating a Web page, not an email template.

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

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On 2/6/2018 at 12:02 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:

Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/


Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch wood"?!? ;-P



LOL.  No, this "project" has always been that way.

But when the demise of userChrome.css and userContent.css happens, I'm 
outta here.


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Re: SeaMonkey cannot access a web site Chrome can.

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On 1/26/2018 at 12:59 PM, Rob Steinmetz created this epitome of digital 
genius:
I have a remote site. The people at that site cannot access a internal 
website we use at another location. I have had the users clear their 
cache and try to access the site. Chrome on the same machines can access 
the site. They can ping the ip address.


I'm looking for a way to figure out what is causing SeaMonkey to not 
load the website.


Are the users getting any error message?  Any message at all? What 
happens when they try to go to the URL?



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Re: Webcam Not Working

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On 1/19/2018 at 12:56 PM, EE created this epitome of digital genius:

Tom Pamin wrote:
This nature webcam just shows a blank page with SM and IE. Can anyone 
see it?

https://dingdarlingsociety.org/webcam


The page is not blank, but I see no image other than their logo.


As Paul said in the first reply it is "under construction."

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Re: Outdated user.js for SeaMonkey v2.49.1's e-mail and newsgroup re(spons/pli)es?

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On 1/18/2018 at 11:01 AM, Ed Mullen created this epitome of digital genius:

I have only customized two of the various mailnews.reply prefs:

mailnews.reply_header_ondateauthorwrote - On #2 at #3, #1 created this 
epitome of digital genius:


mailnews.reply_header_type 2

Which results in the above mailnews header of this message.



Hmmm.  Not showing up until I hit reply.  I can see it in this compose 
windows but it's getting lost somewhere.  Oh well.


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Re: Outdated user.js for SeaMonkey v2.49.1's e-mail and newsgroup re(spons/pli)es?

[Ed Mullen]

On 1/18/2018 at 11:25 AM, Ed Mullen created this epitome of digital genius:

On 1/18/2018 at 11:01 AM, Ed Mullen created this epitome of digital genius:

I have only customized two of the various mailnews.reply prefs:

mailnews.reply_header_ondateauthorwrote - On #2 at #3, #1 created this 
epitome of digital genius:


mailnews.reply_header_type 2

Which results in the above mailnews header of this message.



Hmmm.  Not showing up until I hit reply.  I can see it in this compose 
windows but it's getting lost somewhere.  Oh well.




Good grief.  Now it's showing!  Color me confused.

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Re: Outdated user.js for SeaMonkey v2.49.1's e-mail and newsgroup re(spons/pli)es?

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On 1/17/2018 at 3:32 PM, Ant created this epitome of digital genius:
In 
C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\whatever.default\user.js 
file from 2012, I have:

user_pref("mailnews.reply_header_type", 2);
user_pref("mailnews.reply_header_ondate", "On %s PT");
user_pref("mailnews.reply_header_separator", ", ");
user_pref("mailnews.reply_header_authorwrote", "%s typed");
user_pref("mailnews.reply_header_colon", ":\n");

I noticed these dont' show up when I answer an e-mail and newsgroup 
post. Are these outdated now or something? :(


Thank you in advance. :)


Trying reply again to see if the header shows up.  I see it as I am 
composing now.


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Re: Outdated user.js for SeaMonkey v2.49.1's e-mail and newsgroup re(spons/pli)es?

[Ed Mullen]

On 1/17/2018 at 3:32 PM, Ant created this epitome of digital genius:
In 
C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\whatever.default\user.js 
file from 2012, I have:

user_pref("mailnews.reply_header_type", 2);
user_pref("mailnews.reply_header_ondate", "On %s PT");
user_pref("mailnews.reply_header_separator", ", ");
user_pref("mailnews.reply_header_authorwrote", "%s typed");
user_pref("mailnews.reply_header_colon", ":\n");

I noticed these dont' show up when I answer an e-mail and newsgroup 
post. Are these outdated now or something? :(


Thank you in advance. :)


I have only customized two of the various mailnews.reply prefs:

mailnews.reply_header_ondateauthorwrote - On #2 at #3, #1 created this 
epitome of digital genius:


mailnews.reply_header_type 2

Which results in the above mailnews header of this message.

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Re: Another problem: Mail folders missing

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On 1/14/2018 at 1:39 PM, Jonathan N. Little created this epitome of 
digital genius:

Lil Sparrow wrote:
Thanks to Ed and Jonathan I now have my layout back again but I don't 
have any of my mail folders or mails.


I originally installed the lastest version of Seamonkey and as warned 
no mails were brought over from the back up. I'm used to that but can 
usually go through the process of re-downloading a sizable number. 
This time none of my folders of important mails have come across 
either. This is an absolute disaster for me.



Firstly you have never said if this was POP3 or IMAP mail. This is very 
significant because it determines *where* the email is actually stored.


If is was POP3 then the actually messages would be located on your hard 
drive in subdirectories under Mail within your profile directory:


Enter "about:support" in the browser url bar

Under "Application Basics" find "Profile Folder" and click "Open Folder" 
button.


There should be a "Mail" subdirectory. If you are restoring your backup 
to the correct location all your POP3 accounts would be there with names 
like mail.example.com or pop.example.com




I uninstalled the newest version but installing an older version still 
hasn't brought back my older mails or my folders. Would trying to 
re-install the back up work or have the folders gone forever?




Where the program installs is not where your profile data is located. 
Possibly when your installed new version you create a new profile. 
Moving to the parent direction might confirm this if you see more than 
one subdirectory


random1.default
random2.default

More info required.



As Jonathan asked, POP3 or IMAP?

Try launching SeaMonkey's Profile Manager to see if you may have created 
a new profile when installing SM.


You should have a SeaMonkey folder in your Start - All Programs menu. 
In it should be a Profile Manager shortcut.  If not, the correct startup is:


[drive]:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -profileManager

where [drive] is wherever you installed SM.

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Re: Seamonkey Browser

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On 1/14/2018 at 10:41 AM, Mozing created this epitome of digital genius:

I use Seamonkey for newsgroups.
In a post there is a link I click on and the default browser (Firefox) 
does NOT open, but the Seamonkey browser opens.


I do not like the Seamonkey browser at all !  I find it harder to use 
and difficult to see.


How do I fix this !

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus



You might try this:

<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/standalone-seamonkey-mail/>

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Re: Disappearing email accounts

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On 1/13/2018 at 12:13 PM, Fire Bird created this epitome of digital genius:

I use SeaMonkey as my email client. I checked my mail first thing, as
usual, and all was well. However when I went back later, the layout
had changed, only one account was listed. All the others had
disappeared. I tried closing Seamonkey and reopening it. I uninstalled
it. Installed an older version. All to no avail. I've uninstalled it
again and haven't re-installed. I have no idea what happened or why or
how.


View - Layout - Classic View and check what panes you want to see.


I don't want to have to use webview nor do I particularly want to use
my failing laptop. SeaMonkey and Thunderbird are apparently
incompatible so I can install my SeaMonkey back-up there.


Don't use a profile from SM in TB nor vice-versa.



Could someone please tell me how to get the three panel layout back.



If the above doesn't help I'd restore from a profile backup.

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Re: Seamonkey and facebook

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On 1/12/2018 at 10:47 AM, Cathy Palmer-Lister created this epitome of 
digital genius:

Hi,
Lately I have had trouble viewing fb posts with SeaMonkey. Now and then, 
all the images disappear. I never have this happen with other browsers. 
The only change I have made to my computer is upgrading SeaMonkey.

I use Win 7.
Has anyone else had this problem?


FB working fine here.  Try SafeMode.

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Re: SM 2.49.1 Easy Way to Remove Duplicate email?

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On 1/11/2018 at 7:39 PM, Brooke Clarke created this epitome of digital 
genius:

Hi:

The mail program hangs up requiring shut down and restarting.  After 
doing this it's common that all emails appear twice.  Is there an easy 
way to remove the duplicates?




Try right-click folder - Properties - Repair folder.

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Re: Is this group moderated?

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On 1/8/2018 at 5:57 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


A Williams wrote:


Speaking strictly for myself, there are two categories I'd like to
see blocked - the other one being posts where the date is more than
24 hours in the future.


Why?? You could always find out the "real" posting time if you needed
it!


Because such an invalid time stamp is proof that the message is spam. 
Real people don't keep their computer date and time so far off from 
reality.


Well, just at the moment, Paul, you might pick me, as I'm swapping 
between Linux and Win7. My clock varies by eleven hours (o.k., not the 
24hrs+ Mr/Mrs/Ms Williams refers to, but...) dependant on which OS I'm 
using at the time and if I've remembered to adjust the clock or not!!




Umm, Windows can automatically adjust the PC clock.  Cannot Linux do the 
same?


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Re: Webcam Shuts Off

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On 1/6/2018 at 2:33 AM, Ray_Net created this epitome of digital genius:

Tom Pamin wrote on 06-01-18 04:13:

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 1/4/2018 at 9:41 PM, Sanpam created this epitome of digital genius:

This airport website camera is set up to shut off about every 2
minutes. It has to be manually restarted. Very annoying, and the
operator is not open to have it stream continuously.

Is there any way for SM to "trick" it into not shutting off?

http://www.yourerie.com/skycam-cameras/erie-international-airport-tom-ridge-field-skycam 





Only way I can think of is to insert an HTML  into the
 section of the document.

Right-click the page and choose Save As and save to you local hard
drive.  Open the file in a plain text editor and in the  section
insert:



for refresh after 5 seconds.  Adjust time as desired.  Save file.
Instead of going online open the page from the local file.

My only choice is save page. I clicked on that and it says can't save 
because it can't read the source file. But an htm file does save on my 
desktop. I opened it with notepad and it contains a huge amount of 
coding. Is that what I should try to modify somehow?

Just put: 
at he beginning between the "start-->" and the "



Actually, the refresh code should be between the  and  tags.


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Re: Webcam Shuts Off

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On 1/4/2018 at 9:41 PM, Sanpam created this epitome of digital genius:
This airport website camera is set up to shut off about every 2 minutes. 
It has to be manually restarted. Very annoying, and the operator is not 
open to have it stream continuously.


Is there any way for SM to "trick" it into not shutting off?

http://www.yourerie.com/skycam-cameras/erie-international-airport-tom-ridge-field-skycam 



Only way I can think of is to insert an HTML  into the 
 section of the document.


Right-click the page and choose Save As and save to you local hard 
drive.  Open the file in a plain text editor and in the  section 
insert:




for refresh after 5 seconds.  Adjust time as desired.  Save file. 
Instead of going online open the page from the local file.


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Re: Epub support

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On 1/3/2018 at 2:29 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 1/2/2018 at 4:20 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:

Saul wrote:
Epub reader only releases for Firefox now, I wrote them and they 
said compatibility issues but I see that this version of Seamonkey 
2.49.1 has updated compatibility could anyone on the development 
team announce this to all add-on developers so they enable more 
add-ons for Seamonkey? I'd like to read epub books in my browser again


Yes, they could, but (you knew that was coming, didn't you?) Firefox 
is changing it extensions from whatever the old version was to 
something called "webextensions", which SeaMonkey is not moving to 
just yet, if ever!!


You could try getting the old FF Epub reader extension and feeding it 
to a website (who's address I don't have ... someone!!) which might 
be able to convert it to a format which would still be suitable for 
SM ... maybe.


http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/


Thank you, Ed, I knew someone would know the address!



HTH.  And, hey, that's what bookmarks are for!  :-D

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Re: E-Mail Providers [UPDATE OAuth2]

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On 1/2/2018 at 11:42 AM, Jonathan N. Little created this epitome of 
digital genius:

Ed Mullen wrote:
On 1/2/2018 at 11:09 AM, Jonathan N. Little created this epitome of 
digital genius:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:






Now you can compose and send emails in SeaMonkey and you can do your 
inline images. In fact for support instructions I have embedded 
little partial screen captures not from files but clipboard buffers 
simply be pasting in email.


  Jonathan, no need for all that.  My Gmail account in SeaMonkey works 
exactly like any other mail servers I have.  No problem inserting 
images in emails.




Not saying it does. I think OP's problem is he as not setup an outgoing 
SMTP server for his gmail account and instead using ISP Frontier for is 
outgoing gmail.




I agree.  And he has been given the info on what settings to use in SM 
for Gmail.


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Re: Epub support

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On 1/2/2018 at 4:20 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:

Saul wrote:
Epub reader only releases for Firefox now, I wrote them and they said 
compatibility issues but I see that this version of Seamonkey 2.49.1 
has updated compatibility could anyone on the development team 
announce this to all add-on developers so they enable more add-ons for 
Seamonkey? I'd like to read epub books in my browser again


Yes, they could, but (you knew that was coming, didn't you?) Firefox is 
changing it extensions from whatever the old version was to something 
called "webextensions", which SeaMonkey is not moving to just yet, if 
ever!!


You could try getting the old FF Epub reader extension and feeding it to 
a website (who's address I don't have ... someone!!) which might be able 
to convert it to a format which would still be suitable for SM ... maybe.




http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/

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Re: E-Mail Providers [UPDATE OAuth2]

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On 1/2/2018 at 11:09 AM, Jonathan N. Little created this epitome of 
digital genius:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

4) In fields enter:
 Description: GMail
 Server Name: smtp.gmail.com
 Port: 587
 Connection Security: STARTTLS
 Authentication method: Password transmitted insecurely *
 User Name: 
* This is really Normal Password, because of STARTTLS encrypted 
communication to server is already established before password is 
sent. (This is legacy way which I *know* works because I am currently 
using it, but I noticed there is now option for OAuth2. I will convert 
my to that option and update results)


Okay as promised I set GMail SMTP server to newer OAuth2 security and 
here is how it goes:


1) In the Outgoing Server (SMTP) section select the GMail server 
previously defined.


2) Click the Edit button

3) Change Authentication method: from Password transmitted insecurely to 
OAuth2


4) Click OK and then OK again to close setting dialogs

5) Compose a new test email on your gmail account to set the new 
security protocol


6) When you click sent you will get a popup window stating from Google 
that "Thunderbird" is trying to access your account. Put your gmail 
address in the box and click Next


7) You will be prompted for your gmail password enter that and click Next

8) You will be asked to allow "Thunderbird" access to your account so 
click Allow and that is it.



Now you can compose and send emails in SeaMonkey and you can do your 
inline images. In fact for support instructions I have embedded little 
partial screen captures not from files but clipboard buffers simply be 
pasting in email.


 Jonathan, no need for all that.  My Gmail account in SeaMonkey works 
exactly like any other mail servers I have.  No problem inserting images 
in emails.


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Re: E-Mail Providers

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On 12/31/2017 at 1:19 AM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital genius:

I had to drop my ISP - went downhill.

Now I have an ISP thru my Telephone Company at 6 Mbps and it works fine.

BUT - their E-Mail is pretty much garbage.    Frontier.com

My old ISP had an E-Mail service that worked well with my SeaMonkey.
The new "Frontier" service doesn't work well with SM.  Clunky.  Supposed 
to get

worse in 2018, Frontier says !

I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures (photo 
files) very
well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey has - just 
"attachments".


Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in

the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.

I Googled E-Mail
www.technorms.com/14035/10-free-email-service-providers
and got a list.

Are any of those good for what I need ?  If not, can someone recommend 
others ?


DoctorBill


If you set up your Gmail account in SeaMonkey you CAN embed/insert 
images just like any other email account.  You've been given the info on 
how to set up the account elsewhere in this thread.


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Re: E-Mail Providers

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On 1/1/2018 at 11:51 AM, WaltS48 created this epitome of digital genius:

On 1/1/18 11:32 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
On 12/31/2017 at 4:54 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital 
genius:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey
has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail 
and Newsgroups.


  I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try 
to send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may 
be incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server 
(SMTP) settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail accounts. 
Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !


Use Gmail's SMTP server:  smtp.gmail.com


First he has to add it to SeaMonkey.

Could you post the steps to achieve that, have the Gmail account use it 
and not use the Default Frontier server.




Edit - Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings - Outgoing server - Add

Server name:  smtp.gmail.com
Port: 587
username = full gmail email address
Authentication: Normal password
Connection security: STARTTLS


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Re: E-Mail Providers

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On 12/31/2017 at 4:54 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital genius:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey
has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail and 
Newsgroups.


  I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try to 
send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may be 
incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server (SMTP) 
settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail accounts. 
Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !


Use Gmail's SMTP server:  smtp.gmail.com

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Re: Vimeo Video Not Playing

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On 12/27/2017 at 11:44 AM, EE created this epitome of digital genius:

Cecil Bankston wrote:
I use SeaMonkey 2.49.1.  The video at the following URL loads but will 
not play:


http://dl.allaboutbirds.org/2017-ye?utm_campaign=2017%20Year-End%20Campaign_source=hs_email_medium=email_content=59650819&_hsenc=p2ANqtz--2dmFFsyufmNBCtviwH9uAA-nUXAVoUe23xGXmwTwrtJtGgUq6im9G4RSaiFMHR1vNidrGQYWFfKD3VeAcdF88vhUaHQ&_hsmi=59650819 



I can scroll through the video with the time bar, but clicking the 
play button has no effect.  Is some addon required to play Vimeo videos?


I use NoScript, but I have allowed all scripts on that page.


I believe media autoplay has to be enabled.



You are correct.  It did not work for me until I toggled 
media.autoplay.enabled to true. Worked fine after that.


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Re: Log-In Won't work on FoxNews

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On 12/25/2017 at 12:30 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital 
genius:

DoctorBill wrote:
Isn't what I described above about the two Link Buttons (logIn and 
Create Account)

because FoxNews Web Master MADE THEM that way ?!   No screw-up - no problem
with my browser's or anybody elese' - RIGHT.   It is intentional.  WHY ?!


When I hover over the Login button I see in the Status Bar:

http://www.foxnews.com

If I click it the resulting page has Login and Create Account buttons. 
Hovering over them does not show anything in the Status Bar but the 
buttons do work.


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Re: Log-In Won't work on FoxNews

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On 12/25/2017 at 12:13 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital 
genius:



Another thing - maybe important to those who know how web sites work.

When I mouse over a link, the link shows up in the BAR at the BOTTOM of 
the screen.
I do not know the Jargon to name that BAR - it is just right of the 
symbols for

Browser, Mail, Compose, Address Book - a long empty bar.


Status Bar.  View - Show/Hide.



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Re: PROBLEM LOADING REMOTE CONTENT

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On 12/25/2017 at 7:33 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:

Larry wrote:

Win 10, SM 2.49.1

Remote content (graphics) will not load in AOL, e-mail or CNN even 
when OPTION load remote graphics is enabled.


Works fine in THUNDERBIRD and FIREFOX on same machine.

Re-installed SM but still have the problem.  I'm at a loss, any help 
would be appreciated.


TIA,

Larry


Larry, I seem to recall a setting in SeaMonkey (or was it Mozilla Suite 
or even Netscape Suite) which would allow you to download content from 
Remote Sites ... or not. I recall I had a problem ordering stuff from 
Amazon.ca because I had set the Remote graphics setting to "Off" and the 
Amazon.ca "checkout" symbol was being supplied from Amazon.com ... or 
some such!! So I wasn't seeing it!


I've looked through Prefs twice, but cannot find what I think I'm 
looking for. Maybe this will jog someone else's memory!!




Edit - Preferences - Privacy & Security - Images.  Select Load all images.

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

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On 12/22/2017 at 6:06 AM, Desiree created this epitome of digital genius:

On 12/19/2017 8:39 AM, EE wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

You don't need User Agent Switcher.  Just change it yourself.
Keep the Firefox/number at or above the current version.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/55.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win128; 
x128; rv:57.0) Gecko/20200101 Firefox/77.0



User Agent Switcher still works.  If you open the .xpi file, extract
install.rdf and increase the max version number for SeaMonkey, save the
file, put it back into the archive, save the archive and install it, the
extension will install and it will work.
You can download the installer with any browser.  Just right-click the
green button and choose save.

So, it stops working without this fix in 2.49?  It works fine as is in 
2.48.


Working fine here in v2.49.1

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Re: Trouble Creating New E-Mail Account

[Ed Mullen]

On 12/21/2017 at 1:29 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital genius:
I just dropped my old ISP (Terrible Service - no Service for a week) and 
Modem thing).


I removed my old account via "Accounts", then went to "create New Account".
"E-Mail"
etc.

The "New Account" does not appear under the "Name" side on the left.

Can anyone help me ?

DoctorBill


Open Mail/news.

Edit - Mail & Newsgroups account settings

Click "Add Account" button.

Also, update SM to current version, 2.49.1

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

[Ed Mullen]

On 12/18/2017 at 7:39 PM, Mozilla User created this epitome of digital 
genius:
And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer 
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the 
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not 
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.


SM 2.49.1 on Win 10 Pro.  User Agent Switcher installed and working just 
fine.


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Re: half a character missing

[Ed Mullen]

On 12/19/2017 at 7:17 AM, null created this epitome of digital genius:

Daniel wrote:

null wrote:
Recently, I've noticed that in the "From" line in the header for 
posts read here, the left half of the first character of the entry is 
missing, i.e. doesn't display.
Not getting this when I use SM for my own emails. Anyone else noticed 
this? Seems to be a misalignment specific to these Mozilla groups.


Not me!! All showing fine!!


Well, the vertical stroke in your "D" for "Daniel" is missing! Weird, eh?


Sounds like a video driver issue.  Try updating.

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Re: using HTML as default in mail messages

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On 12/15/2017 at 1:33 PM, Dirk Munk created this epitome of digital genius:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/14/17 7:46 PM, Dirk Munk wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Dirk Munk:


There used to be a setting that made HTML the default setting when
sending a mail message. However that setting no longer exists.

Really? In my SM-Trunk it is still there.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm171215.png

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:59.0) Gecko/2017121418 
SeaMonkey/2.56a1-h


Hartmut


You're right, the composing itself is in HTML. But the sending 
process will change it to plain text by default.


Edit > Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Send Format in my SM 2.49.1.




My setting is plain text and HTML, but the message appears in plain 
text. I would expect to see the HTML version.


Are you sure there is actually any HTML fomatting in the message?  Edit 
- Preferences - Mai & Newsgroups - Send Format.  Look at the bottom 
check box "Automatically send the message as plain text ..."


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Re: The bar of icons displayed when reading mail/news

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On 12/5/2017 at 8:20 AM, Richard Owlett created this epitome of digital 
genius:
A thread on another forum got me thinking about the default action when 
clicking the icon for "Get Message", "Compose", "Reply" etc.


If there is more than one possible action for the button as indicated by 
the presence of a "down arrow", the default action is not always the 
first in the list.


Where is the preference set?

TIA



Not certain but I believe clicking "Get Msgs" will retrieve messages for 
whatver account is the currently selected one.  The down arrow allows 
you to choose "Get all messages" (for all accounts) or just the account 
you click on.


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Re: How to open 3 pages with only one Bookmark

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On 11/17/2017 at 5:52 PM, Ray_Net created this epitome of digital genius:

Hello,
I have put 2 url pages on "Edit" - "Preferences" - "Browser" - "Clicking 
the Home button takes you to this group of pages"


How can I do this when creating ONE bookmark able to open 3 different 
pages ?




Create a folder on you bookmarks toolbar and put the 3 bookmarks in 
there.  Middle-clicking will open all in tabs.  You can also right-click 
the folder and choose Open all in tabs.


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Re: pinball game won't work in seamonkey

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On 11/12/2017 at 12:43 PM, WaltS48 created this epitome of digital genius:

On 11/12/17 11:19 AM, Jim wrote:
The online pinball game http://letsplay.ouigo.com/ won't work in 
SeaMonkey, but it works OK in other browsers.  You have to press the A 
and P (or L) keys to flip the flippers.  Unfortunately, when you (or 
I) press these keys in SM during game play, SM automatically opens the 
search window instead, and looks for these letters in the web page.


Um, Thanks for the time sink! I already waste enough online, but being a 
former pinball machine tech, love to play.


Works fine in Firefox.



That's because you have Tools - Options - General "Search for text when 
you start typing" unchecked.


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Re: pinball game won't work in seamonkey

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On 11/12/2017 at 12:24 PM, Ray_Net created this epitome of digital genius:

Jim wrote on 12-11-17 17:19:
The online pinball game http://letsplay.ouigo.com/ won't work in 
SeaMonkey, but it works OK in other browsers.  You have to press the A 
and P (or L) keys to flip the flippers.  Unfortunately, when you (or 
I) press these keys in SM during game play, SM automatically opens the 
search window instead, and looks for these letters in the web page.
Work perfectly for me : Win10 pro - User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 
10.0; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


Edit - Preferences - Advanced - uncheck Find automatically ...

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Re: I can't access a web CAM and don't understand why.

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On 11/10/2017 at 3:28 PM, Frog created this epitome of digital genius:
I have accessed a web cam located on the Ocean City, MD boardwalk for 
years and for unknown reasons it now does not open.


The web address for this web cam is:

http://www.oceangallery.com/

I do see a black rectangle where I believe the cam display should 
located.  This black rectangle has the following message displaced in it:


can't assign to properties of (new Boolean(true)):
not an object

This message does not communicate with me...Help!

Windows 10


Frog

It works in IE11.

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Re: Problem diagnosed - was [Re: Recovering from OPERATOR error ;<]

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On 11/8/2017 at 7:59 AM, Richard Owlett created this epitome of digital 
genius:

On 11/08/2017 01:14 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

[sniped]

*UNFORTUNATE RESULT*
Every time I select a file with the ".eml" extension I get stuck in an
infinite loop of opening instances of SeaMonkey. Must then use
Ctrl-Alt-Delete to escape and shutdown.

What do I do now?


Could you have inadvertently established SeaMonkey as the "helper
application" for .eml files? If so, SeaMonkey would call SeaMonkey would
call SeaMonkey..., right?

See under Edit | Preferences | Browser | Helper Applications.



That's just what I did [dang it ;]
I guess what I'm looking for is an email VIEW ONLY program.





Why not Save As and choose .txt file?  That's what I do with emails/news 
posts that I want to save.  Click and they open in my default text editor.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.48 mail does not have remember password option?

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On 11/6/2017 at 5:09 AM, Desiree created this epitome of digital genius:

On 11/5/2017 7:15 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 11/4/2017 at 11:38 PM, Desiree created this epitome of digital genius:

How do I tell SeaMonkey to remember my passwords for my various email
identities?


Edit - Preferences - Privacy & Security - Passwords.  Check the box.


Thanks.  I never have let browsers save passwords so I didn't think to
look in Preferences.


If you don't want to remember anything but mail passwords, once SM has 
learned those you can turn the option back off.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.48 mail does not have remember password option?

[Ed Mullen]

On 11/4/2017 at 11:38 PM, Desiree created this epitome of digital genius:

How do I tell SeaMonkey to remember my passwords for my various email
identities?


Edit - Preferences - Privacy & Security - Passwords.  Check the box.

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Re: Looking for a Bookmark Checker that works with version 2.48

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On 10/24/2017 at 2:16 PM, James McCoy created this epitome of digital 
genius:

Searching for a bookmark checker that will look for duplicates and broken 
links. Nothing seen in SeaMonkey addons and I do not know which of the Firefox 
addons will work after converting using http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/

James
Indiana



<http://aignes.com/deadlink.htm>

No longer developed but it still works.

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Re: How big does your place.sqlite file get?

[Ed Mullen]

On 10/18/2017 at 4:30 AM, Ant created this epitome of digital genius:

Mine gets up to 30 MB with 30 days of histories. :/

Thank you in advance. :)


Always 10,240 Kb.  I save history for 180 days.  1,328 bookmarks.

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Re: Filters

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On 9/26/2017 at 8:51 AM, Luis created this epitome of digital genius:

Any idea on how to copy filters from one folder into another?


Find the file "msgFilterRules.dat" and copy it.

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Re: Chase problems - again

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On 9/14/2017 at 6:18 AM, Desiree created this epitome of digital genius:

Sigh.  I can't login to Chase Online using  SeaMonkey 2.48.  So, I used
User Agent Switcher and faked Fx 47 (Win 10) as the user agent.  That
got me further but only to the screen where Chase says it doesn't
recognize the user's computer and you have to request a temporary ID
code.  I did that but Chase just flipped me to the main Chase page
asking for login again.

Does anything work currently with Chase Online login and SeaMonkey?  Is
there a better user agent than the one I tried?


I have no trouble logging in with SM 2.48 if I set the Firefox user 
agent BEFORE I go to the site.  Using User Agent Switcher.


<http://chrispederick.com/>

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Re: Backing up SM stuff

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On 9/13/2017 at 4:34 PM, rjkrjk created this epitome of digital genius:

just use MOZBACKUP,   you can select what you want backed up real
convenient



DoctorBill wrote on 9/13/17 1:21 PM:

I just backed up my Bookmarks to a Thumb Drive - there is a backup
choice under "tools"
in the Bookmarks manager to do that.

I have four "Address Books".
How can I back those up to a Thumbdrive ?
Do I use "Export" ?
If so, do I Export each of the four Address Books ?

How about backing up the Passwords ?

DoctorBill  using SM 2.46

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My understanding is it has been abandoned and no longer is in development.

You really should be backing up the entire drive on a regular basis as 
someone else has suggested. I use TODO Backup. There is a free version.


<https://www.easeus.com/backup-software/personal.html>

My C:\ and G:\ drives automatically backup nightly when I'm not using 
the PC. The other PCs backup weekly on a staggered schedule. The entire 
drive or individual file(s) can be restored very easily using Windows 
Explorer.


My backup are stored on a 1Tb USB drive.  One in the bank box and I swap 
them out periodically.


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Re: Backing up SM stuff

[Ed Mullen]

On 9/13/2017 at 1:21 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital genius:

I just backed up my Bookmarks to a Thumb Drive - there is a backup
choice under "tools"
in the Bookmarks manager to do that.

I have four "Address Books".
How can I back those up to a Thumbdrive ?
Do I use "Export" ?
If so, do I Export each of the four Address Books ?

How about backing up the Passwords ?

DoctorBill  using SM 2.46


Address books - copy the *.mab files in your profile

Passwords - copy the signons.sqlite file in your profile


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Re: Subscribing to Newsgroups -- Content of "Current Group List"

[Ed Mullen]

On 9/12/2017 at 3:40 AM, Richard Owlett created this epitome of digital 
genius:

On 09/11/2017 09:22 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 9/11/2017 at 10:06 AM, Richard Owlett created this epitome of digital
genius:

Are all the news groups available from a particular news server
available locally?

I'm suspecting "Not" as there is a significant delay when entering the
"Subscribe" screen. How do I obtain that list> Obviously SeaMonkey
does so.


In the News folder in your profile look for "hostinfo.dat".  Open in
plain-text editor.



Just what I needed. Thank you.




You are welcome.  It's amazing what you can find by poking around in the 
profile folders.  :-)


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Re: Subscribing to Newsgroups -- Content of "Current Group List"

[Ed Mullen]

On 9/12/2017 at 3:45 AM, Richard Owlett created this epitome of digital 
genius:

On 09/11/2017 11:39 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/11/2017 7:06 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

Are all the news groups available from a particular news server
available locally?

I'm suspecting "Not" as there is a significant delay when entering the
"Subscribe" screen. How do I obtain that list> Obviously SeaMonkey
does so.



Did you select the Refresh button?  The delay might be caused by
refreshing the list of newsgroups to which you can subscribe.  For a
general-purpose newsgroup server (not news.mozilla.org) and a 50 Mbps
broadband Internet connection, it takes Thunderbird (which uses the same
software as SeaMonkey for this) about 12 seconds to refresh.



That may be it. I've no idea of my effective bandwidth as I'm connected
via a T-Mobile Z915 HotSpot {connection is USB not WiFi}.




You can check it:

<http://www.speedtest.net/>

<http://speedof.me/>


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Re: Subscribing to Newsgroups -- Content of "Current Group List"

[Ed Mullen]

On 9/11/2017 at 10:06 AM, Richard Owlett created this epitome of digital 
genius:

Are all the news groups available from a particular news server
available locally?

I'm suspecting "Not" as there is a significant delay when entering the
"Subscribe" screen. How do I obtain that list> Obviously SeaMonkey does so.


In the News folder in your profile look for "hostinfo.dat".  Open in 
plain-text editor.


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