RE: Pdf talking stacato

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I just realized something, it is not all PDF documents, only the one our 
Principal sends out at school. Hmm, that is so weird. 'V

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On Behalf Of Smith, Veronica via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 11:26 AM
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Subject: Pdf talking stacato

Could you please advise me of why when I open a PDF that our school sends out, 
it reads like there is a period at the end of each word.  It is making me crazy.
It just started this behavior after the last update of Window Eyes.

Veronica
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Pdf talking stacato

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Could you please advise me of why when I open a PDF that our school sends out, 
it reads like there is a period at the end of each word.  It is making me crazy.
It just started this behavior after the last update of Window Eyes.

Veronica
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A microsoft word problem

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

So here's what happens, when I select a document that I already created and hit 
enter to open it, it comes back and says, my title then pull down. At that 
time, it will not open the document at all.  I can, however, force it open by 
pressing F5, then it seems to straighten itself out.
Do you have any ideas what might be happening?

Veronica
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RE: somewhat off topic--can i text someone's phone from my computer

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

So I was just curious, since I've never heard of this, but say I want to send a 
text from my computer and I use AT, what exactly do I do.  Please, please 
walk me through the process.
Veronica

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Ted Larson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 2:14 PM
To: 'Marilyn H'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: somewhat off topic--can i text someone's phone from my computer

Marilyn:
Thanks for your reply.  Regards:  Ted Larson


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On Behalf Of Marilyn H via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 10:14 PM
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Subject: Re: somewhat off topic--can i text someone's phone from my computer

Verizon uses:
1234567...@vzwpix.com
with the first part being the phone number of course.
Marilyn
At 05:10 PM 8/17/2016, you wrote:
>Unless you know the carrier of that person's cell number, probably not.
>Each carrier has its own way of accepting text messages from a 
>computer.  For example, AT's texting service uses the following:
>
>
>1234567...@txt.att.net
>
>
>Other carriers will do something else.  As far as I know, there's no 
>way to determine by phone number what carrier the person to whom you 
>want to send a text message has.  Hope this helps.--Matt, N1IBB.
>
>
>
>
>On 8/17/2016 7:48 PM, Ted Larson via Talk wrote:
>>Dear List:
>>
>>In the past, if I knew the domain of someone's cell phone, I could send a
>>message to their phone.  However, I usually do not know their domain.
When
>>anyone else texts from their phone to another phone, all they need is the
>>ten-digit phone number.  Is there a way for me to text from my computer to
>>someone's phone with just their phone number?  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted
Larson
>>
>>
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RE: Found Extended Dictionary app, but a question

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Yeah,the way it warns you makes a person think there is a fee. 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Michael Massey via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 5:17 AM
To: 'Larry Higgins'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Found Extended Dictionary app, but a question

Hi, Larry.  I tried the extended dictionary app in its early version and
didn't like it so I uninstalled it.  I am not trying to discourage you from
trying it out.  No, there is no license fee.  I can't see what sense it
would make for an app creator to allow users of Window-eyes to be able to
download free apps and then to charge a license fee.  I understand that you
wish to be careful.  I will download free apps when available, but I
wouldn't want to download a free app and have to pay a license fee  .  

Mike M. 

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Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:43 AM
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Subject: Found Extended Dictionary app, but a question

For those who use this app,

I see that a license is required for use of this app. Am I to understand
from this that there might be a fee associated with acquiring said license,
and if so, how much.

This sure looks like a most useful app, and might be worth paying for,
though I wouldn't want to give anybody any ideas .

Anyway, looks rather exciting.

Thanks,

Larry
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Pronunciation dictionary

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Now I have a new problem, it used to be and I am assuming it should still be, 
when you want a word spoken a certain way, you go to pronunciation and tab to 
original and type in the word, such as Mr. Then you tab to new word and you 
type in mister.  In my computer it reads the first only as M R. What am I 
missing?
Veronica
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RE: Outlook changes

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

And again when ever I update Windows, Diagnostics disappears and I can no 
longer open attachments.  Why do you suppose it does that? 
Veronica

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 9:14 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Outlook changes

Hi everyone,

Outlook 2016 was upgraded Friday August 12, once again.
I noticed that, where I could once reply to a message diredctly from the 
message list using Control-R, now this keystroke only works properly when a 
message is open; Therefore, cursor tracking is screwed up unless the reply is 
begun from the message window.
Other than that, everything seems okay, so far, and I'll reply with any new 
info I have.

Hth,

Rod
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RE: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Oh my goodness, it is a scary thought, but a lot of it might be true.  Thanks 
for sharing! Veronica

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:25 AM
To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web 
results

I can't help but send this message here. It is . . . something, but does
resonate with this topic.
Read and throw away, or ponder it, or store it away, but it is,
fascinating nonetheless.




*Welcome to the exponential age!*



In 1998, Kodak had 170,000 employees and sold 85% of all photo paper
worldwide.



Within just a few years, their business model disappeared and they
went bankrupt.



What happened to Kodak will happen in a lot of industries in the next 10
years - and most people don't see it coming. Did you think in 1998 that 3
years later you would never take pictures on paper film again?



Yet digital cameras were invented in 1975. The first ones only had 10,000
pixels, but followed Moore's law. So as with all exponential technologies,
it was a disappointment for a long time, before it became way superior and
got mainstream in only a few short years. It will now happen with artificial
Intelligence, health, autonomous and electric cars, education, 3D printing,
agriculture, and jobs. Welcome to the 4th Industrial Revolution - The
Exponential Age!



Software will disrupt most traditional industries in the next 5-10 years.



Uber is just a software tool, they don't own any cars, and are now the
biggest taxi company in the world. Airbnb is now the biggest hotel company
in the world, although they don't own any properties.



Artificial Intelligence: Computers become exponentially better in
understanding the world. This year, a computer beat the best player in the
world, 10 years earlier than expected. In the US, young lawyers already
don't get jobs. Because of IBM's Watson, you can get legal advice (so far
for more or less basic stuff) within seconds, with 90% accuracy compared
with 70% accuracy when done by humans. So if you study law, stop
immediately. There will be 90% less lawyers in the future, only specialists
will remain.



Watson already helps nurses diagnosing cancer, 4 times more accurate than
human nurses. Facebook now has a pattern recognition software that can
recognize faces better than humans. In 2030, computers will become more
intelligent than humans.



Autonomous cars: In 2018 the first self-driving cars will appear for the
public. Around 2020, the complete industry will start to be disrupted.
You won't
want to own a car anymore. You will call a car with your phone, it will
show up at your location and drive you to your destination. You will not
need to park it, you will only pay for the driven distance and you can be
productive while driving. Our kids will never get a driver's license and
will never own a car. It will change the cities, because we will need
90-95% less cars for that. We can transform former parking space into
parks. 1.2 million people die each year in car accidents worldwide. We now
have one accident every 100,000km. With autonomous driving that will drop
to one accident in 10 million km. That will save a million lives each year.



Most car companies might become bankrupt. Traditional car companies try the
evolutionary approach and just build a better car, while tech companies
(Tesla, Apple, Google) will do the revolutionary approach and build a
computer on wheels. I spoke to a lot of engineers from Volkswagen and Audi;
they are completely terrified of Tesla.



Insurance companies will have massive trouble because without accidents,
the insurance will become 100x cheaper. Their car insurance business model
will disappear.



Real estate will change. Because if you can work while you commute, people
will move further away to live in a more beautiful neighborhood.



*Won't need as many garages if fewer people have cars, so living in the
city may become more attractive as people like being around other people.
That won't change.*



Electric cars will become mainstream until 2020. Cities will be less noisy
because all cars will run on electric. Electricity will become incredibly
cheap and clean: Solar production has been on an exponential curve for 30
years, but you can only now see the impact. Last year, more solar energy
was installed worldwide than fossil. The price for solar will drop so much
that all coal companies will be out of business by 2025.



With cheap electricity comes cheap and abundant water. Desalination now
only needs 2kWh per cubic meter. We don't have scarce water in most places,
we only have scarce drinking water. Imagine what will be possible if anyone
can have as much clean water as he wants, for nearly no cost.



Health: The Tricorder X price will be announced this year. There will be
companies who will build a medical device 

RE: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

That is why I am always leary about updating anything.  I always wait and wait 
till I see if others are having issues.   V

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:19 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

It seems like with every new release of itunes, it comes more and more less 
accessible.  I just wished someone would write a third party program to make 
it easy to transfer content to your ios device.

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From: Steve Clower
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:25 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; cr19951...@inbox.com
Subject: RE: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

I strongly suggest anyone encountering usability issues with iTunes on 
Windows send an email to accessibil...@apple.com and provide them details of 
the problems you are encountering.

Regards,
Steve


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:19 AM
To: cr19951...@inbox.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

ON another list, I see:
accessibility problems in the newest itunes update?

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From: crw9599 via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:52 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

  Hello. I download the latest version of iTunes 12.4 which came out on
Monday, have noticed the changes in the menu bar you can get to it by
hitting the alt key on the keyboard but window eyes  does not tell you
what part of the menu bar you are on. Instead you have to hit the alt
key on the keyboard then depending where you are at you have to use the
either the left or right or the up or down arrow keys on the keyboard
and once you start doing that window eyes does say context menu it does
open up in to the menu then once that happens then using the left or
right arrow keys you are in the menus you just have to know where you
are at to figure out what part of the menu bar you are at since the main
part of the menu bar does not speak anymore. I wonder if the iTunes app
has to be updated or something. Other then that I can still use it it is
just a little bit tricky but it is due-able.


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RE: opening attachments in outlook 2016

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Well this is how mine used to work, but not any more.  

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of george basioli via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:50 AM
To: 'Rod Hutton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Charles Short'
Subject: RE: opening attachments in outlook 2016

Better yet,
>From the main window of the email with attachements,
Shift tab to you land on the attachement or attachements it will let you
know if there is more then one
Now right click and you have several choices what you wish to do with the
attachement not just save

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gbmagoo=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 04:12
To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: opening attachments in outlook 2016

Hi Charlie,

Within a message with attachments, open the File menu and arrow down to Save
attachments and press Enter.

Hth,

Rod

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Of Charles Short via Talk
Sent: May 16, 2016 8:23 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: opening attachments in outlook 2016

Hello listers, Charlie Short here, I'm having trouble opening attachments in
outlook 2016.  I tried pressing control alt a, but the Kurzweil 1000
appointment calendar came up.  Any suggestions?  Thanks


Charlie Short


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RE: opening attachments in outlook 2016

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

So rod, I know what you say is true because that is how I am getting mine now, 
but can't we just open them in the email anymore. Just wondering??? V

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:12 AM
To: 'Charles Short'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: opening attachments in outlook 2016

Hi Charlie,

Within a message with attachments, open the File menu and arrow down to Save
attachments and press Enter.

Hth,

Rod

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Of Charles Short via Talk
Sent: May 16, 2016 8:23 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: opening attachments in outlook 2016

Hello listers, Charlie Short here, I'm having trouble opening attachments in
outlook 2016.  I tried pressing control alt a, but the Kurzweil 1000
appointment calendar came up.  Any suggestions?  Thanks


Charlie Short


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alt left arrow

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Here's another problem I am having, using Windows7, Office 2010, latest WE, 
when I am using Fire Foxx, if I want to go to a previous page, I have always 
hit alt left arrow and it has always gone back a page, but  now, now it messes 
with Window eyes and it turns off, well the whole system seems to freeze up.  
Irritating to say the least.  Is this something on my end, well it just started 
after we installed that stupid Norton.  I'm not sure if I should lay blame 
there, as now I don't have that virus protector but I still have the problem.
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Still no attachments

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

A reminder of what I am using, Windows 7, Office 2010 with the latest WE.
My husband put Norton on my computer and then I could not get attachments.  
Chris suggested I get rid of Norton, which I did and get AVG, which again I 
did.  However, I still cannot open the attachments in email, but I can save 
them.  But something is still not right.  Any suggestions of what I might have 
to do.

Veronica
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RE: virus protector

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

So how much does Mcafee cost? 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 3:38 PM
To: 'Veronica Smith'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: virus protector

Hey Veronica (Ms. Smith), Mcafee is a good one. ...It works very well with
WE and it came with my new computer.


Charlie Short

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On Behalf Of Veronica Smith via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 12:28 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: virus protector

So recently I found out that my Norton Virus protector could be the cause of
all my problems with Window Eyes.  If that is true, then what is a good
choice for me?

Veronica


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RE: Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has A Serious Problem

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I used to have the free version of AVG, but I'm not sure why I don't any more. 
I guess my husband wanted Norton because that is what we have and it is making 
me crazy. I do not have Windows 10.
V 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 5:16 PM
To: Charles Short; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has A Serious Problem

I have had Macffee let two virsus in on two different PC's. Once was 
serveral years ago on an XP Pc and the other was just a couple months ago on 
a brand new Del. The only reason I had Mcaffee on it to begin with is it cam 
with the PC and I got a one year free subscription to it. I only used it 1 
1/2 months before I got virus on my PC. I had the paid version ofr AVG on my 
Win 8 PC, so I went ahead ans sprung for AVG for the Win 10 pc and now mo 
jproblems.

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From: Charles Short via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 4:33 PM
To: 'Smith, Veronica' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has A Serious Problem

The best virus protecter imho\ is Mcafee. ...works very well with 
Window-Eyes.


Charlie Short

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On Behalf Of Smith, Veronica via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 10:22 AM
To: Bob Tinney <tinn...@charter.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
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Subject: RE: Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has A Serious Problem

Oh and I have windows 7. , so am trying to find out what is the best virus 
protector.  I have Norton and it is messing with my stuff. V

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[mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:05 AM
To: Russ Kiehne; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has A Serious Problem

Russ,

I don't know where all of the windows 10 bashing got started, but go ahead 
and upgrade to windows 10.  Its free until July of this year and unless you 
have some really old peripherals, they should work just fine in Windows 10. 
I'm running Windows 10 on all of our computers and I do not regret 
upgrading!

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 5/5/2016 9:25 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:
> Does anyone know anything about the following article?
> I wonder if I’ll be stuck with using windows 10?
> I have a Asus computer.
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/05/04/microsoft-warns-windows-7-boot-up-problem/#e18758f395e5
>
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RE: Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has A Serious Problem

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Oh and I have windows 7. , so am trying to find out what is the best virus 
protector.  I have Norton and it is messing with my stuff. V

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:05 AM
To: Russ Kiehne; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has A Serious Problem

Russ,

I don't know where all of the windows 10 bashing got started, but go ahead and 
upgrade to windows 10.  Its free until July of this year and unless you have 
some really old peripherals, they should work just fine in Windows 10.  I'm 
running Windows 10 on all of our computers and I do not regret upgrading!

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 5/5/2016 9:25 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:
> Does anyone know anything about the following article?
> I wonder if I’ll be stuck with using windows 10?
> I have a Asus computer.
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/05/04/microsoft-warns-windows-7-boot-up-problem/#e18758f395e5
>
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RE: Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has A Serious Problem

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I don't have windows 10, I have Office 2010 and the latest version of WE. V

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On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 7:26 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has A Serious Problem

Does anyone know anything about the following article?
I wonder if I’ll be stuck with using windows 10?
I have a Asus computer.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/05/04/microsoft-warns-windows-7-boot-up-problem/#e18758f395e5


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unprotect again

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

The gentleman I work with is having problems with is email.  Certain ones 
always come as Protected, but mine do not.  What does he need to do to 
unprotect it?  He has Office 2013 and the latest Window-eyes.  Thank you!
Veronica
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RE: updating aps

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

On my document, if I hit Controll F, it says forward. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 6:26 AM
To: Rod Hutton; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: updating aps

I don control f, then s, then a.  Then tab through to the okay button.  Pam.

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From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 6:03 AM
To: 'Veronica Smith' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: updating aps

Hi Veronica,

From within the window of the open email message, you should be able to open 
the File menu, arrow down to Save attachments, and press Enter.
This should open the standard browse to lacation dialog.
I know that, normally, Control-Alt-A is the recommended method, but I 
thought I would recommend the least complicated method. Smile

Hth,

Rod

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[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Veronica Smith via Talk
Sent: April 30, 2016 2:28 PM
To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: updating aps

Ok, now I found it.  I went into Utilities and downloaded it.  Not exactly 
sure where it went, it used to be there.  Hmm, anyway, I did what I did 
before, clicked on it, then went to refresh libraries and still I cannot get 
attachments.  So frustrating, g.
Any suggestions would be grately appreciated. Veronica

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From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+madison_tewe=spinn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Rebecca Lineberger via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 2:15 PM
To: 'Smith, Veronica'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: updating aps

Veronica,
I think what you want is
Diagnostics.
It is in your list of running apps
Just press alt from the Window-Eyes control panel and right arrow to apps. 
Down arrow to Diagnostics and press enter.
Refresh accessibility libraries is the second one down.
Rebecca
And press enter.

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[mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Smith, Veronica via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 2:54 PM
To: Rod Hutton; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: updating aps

I have a problem, it is similar to something I had before as I cannot read 
attachments again.  But the last time I fixed my prob by going to the App 
manager, hitting enter and then arrowing up to WE Diagnostics.  I hit enter 
here, then arrowed down to Refresh libraries.
But now, now, there is no option for WE Diagnostics, it is not there, and I 
cannot find it in Utilities.  Help! Do you have any suggestions on how to 
find my attachments or how to fix it?

Veronica

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[mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 5:47 PM
To: 'Ron or Susan Denis'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: updating aps

Hi Ron,

The options are set in the options for the GW Toolkit app, on the Apps menu.

Hth,

Rod

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Sent: April 28, 2016 10:05 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: updating aps

Until last week, when there was an update to an ap,p I used a box popped up 
telling me which apps needed an update.  Apparently this changed and now I 
have an auditory signal that an update is available but the scfreen that 
offered me choices and mentioned which update needed an update has vanished. 
Any suggestion as to how to get back the tone and voice signal that includes 
what has an update available would be appreciated.  I’ve spent a fair piece 
of time looking on my own and have decideed asking would be more time 
efficient.  Thanks.
Ron Denis
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RE: spell checker in outlook 2007

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

This is what I use and find it most helpful.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 10:53 AM
To: Don Smith; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: spell checker in outlook 2007

I cannot speak to why this occurred for you, as I've never had good luck with 
the spellcheck window.  You are better served to use the alt semicolon and alt 
apostrophe spell check commands in Outlook just as you do in Word.  These are a 
Window Eyes function and I find it much more useful.  The reason I leave my 
Outlook spell check window enabled is to remind me to spell check (in which 
case I just escape out of the spell check window and us the above commands) and 
because the spell check window will catch errors in my subject line that the 
window eyes commands will not.  

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On Behalf Of Don Smith via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 3:47 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: spell checker in outlook 2007

Well, spell checker has never worked very good for me at best, but, now it is 
useless.

 

It worked enough to do something, but, now, no good at all.

 

Perhaps not, but, it was the new update to  windows enhanced, no revelence?

Don

 

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RE: updating aps

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I believe its Norton now.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Karyn Campbell via Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 5:07 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: updating aps

Veronica,

What antivirus package are you using?  I ask this because there is one that 
eats things it's not supposed to.  Web Root Security Anywhere is one package to 
avoid like the plague as that package is not accessible and it does eat things 
its not supposed to.  By that, I mean it removes components that you don't want 
removed. WE is not what they call white-listed which means that it is approved 
and the software won't touch components of WE.

We're having a problem with our K1000 software on our main computer and we 
think the aforementioned software ate a component it wasn't supposed to eat.  
The aforementioned software has been removed from both machines in this house 
with the help of the Geek Squad at Best Buy.  Don't take this software in the 
first place and you can avoid major problems.

All this is to illustrate why it is important to know this information.

Thanks.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA,  karyn1...@gmail.com and likely Viper Antivirus 
on both machines.
Using WE   9.3 on HP Pavilion running Windows 8.1 with Office 2013 and I.E. 11 
as well as Asuss convertible laptop running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and 
I.E. 11  as default browser and WE 9.4 and Vipre Antivirus on boht machines.




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RE: updating aps

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I have a problem, it is similar to something I had before as I cannot read 
attachments again.  But the last time I fixed my prob by going to the App 
manager, hitting enter and then arrowing up to WE Diagnostics.  I hit enter 
here, then arrowed down to Refresh libraries.
But now, now, there is no option for WE Diagnostics, it is not there, and I 
cannot find it in Utilities.  Help! Do you have any suggestions on how to find 
my attachments or how to fix it?

Veronica

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 5:47 PM
To: 'Ron or Susan Denis'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: updating aps

Hi Ron,

The options are set in the options for the GW Toolkit app, on the Apps menu.

Hth,

Rod

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Ron or Susan Denis via Talk
Sent: April 28, 2016 10:05 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: updating aps

Until last week, when there was an update to an ap,p I used a box popped up 
telling me which apps needed an update.  Apparently this changed and now I have 
an auditory signal that an update is available but the scfreen that offered me 
choices and mentioned which update needed an update has vanished.  Any 
suggestion as to how to get back the tone and voice signal that includes what 
has an update available would be appreciated.  I’ve spent a fair piece of time 
looking on my own and have decideed asking would be more time efficient.  
Thanks.
Ron Denis
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RE: Copying large Blocks of Text

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

A word to the wise, it is better to copy than to cut as if you select control X 
and something happens to your computer at that exact time, it is gone forever.  
Just saying.
Veronica

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of gosselin_louis via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 4:36 AM
To: 'Dave'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Copying large Blocks of Text

Hi,

In addition to holding down the shift and pressing down-arrow as long as
needed, you can also hold down the shift and use page-up or page-down; you
can also position your cursur to any point in the text of a document, and do
ctrl-shift-home, or ctrl-shift-end to get all from cursor to the beginning
or end.  Then execute your ctrl-c or ctrl-x.  Ctrl-v will paste the
highlighted block as usual.

Louis



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On Behalf Of Dave via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 2:33 PM
To: A I Squared Support 
Subject: Copying large Blocks of Text

hello,

yes, I did know about using Shift and the Down Arrow, but this is quite
slow when needing to copy 3 or 4 pages of a 15 page document.

I was thinking there was another way to set the starting point of the
text to be copied, and then after moving the cursor to the end of the
text to be copied, another keyboard command is used.  this Highlights
all text between these two points in the document.  Once the block has
been highlighted, pressing CTRL-C then copies the entire Block to the
Clipboard.You can also Cut the bock from the document too by using
CTRL-X.

 Anyone else have a guess as to how to set these two points in the
document?

Thanks,

Grumpy Dave


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RE: How to copy large Blocks of Text?

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

However if you are copying an HTML document, press F10 and the highlighter will 
begin, arrow down to your stopping point.  Hit F10 again and another menu will 
open, it will say "copy text." Enter, then move to where you want it.  Control 
V will paste it.
Veronica

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 10:04 AM
To: Dave; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: How to copy large Blocks of Text?

In Word, I typically use Shift and down arrow, selecting each line of text that 
I want to copy.  Win Eyes will read each line as I select it.  

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Dave via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 9:07 AM
To: A I Squared Support
Subject: How to copy large Blocks of Text?

Hello yet again,

I have some work to get done where I am copying from a Word Document large 
blocks of text.  Pages of text.  

Would someone remind me what commands are used to start Highlighting and then 
to end the Highlighting?

Thanks again,

Grumpy Dave


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RE: Word 2010 questions

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

You would only hit H if you are in Fire Fox or Internet Explorer. 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts via Talk
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 2:21 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Word 2010 questions

Running Window-eyes on an HP Windows 10 desktop with Window-eyes 9.4.  

What is the Window-eyes command in word to move to the next heading?  I asked 
this elsewhere and was told to hit the letter h.  But all that does is add an h 
to an unprotected word document, at least on this machine.  So what am I 
missing?

Next, what do I need to change in the Window-eyes control panel if I want to 
read a word document without hearing things like headers, bullets, etc?  In 
other words, if I am reading a document where I wish to hear only the text of 
the document.

Thanks.

Don Roberts
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RE: a concerning facebook problem

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

You sure you didn't accidently get into the regular site?

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Jed Barton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 11:36 AM
To: Chris Skarstad; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: a concerning facebook problem

hmmm, this is using firefox, very strange.

On 4/7/2016 11:17 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
>  I just took a look, and mine has no buttons, just links, this is
> using internet Explorer 11.
>   Now, Facebook could be rolling out a new design and it's entirely
> possible that we'll all see this eventually. but for now, mine works as
> advertised.
>
>
> On 4/7/2016 10:40 AM, Mike Rogers via Talk wrote:
>> Mine seems the same as always.
>>
>> 
>>
>> www.harmonicaworkshops.com
>> www.woodeneyemusic.com
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2016 10:10:05 -0400
>> Jed Barton via Talk  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>> I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, but am trying to
>>> get to the bottom of it.  Like you, i use the mobile fb sight for
>>> everything and it works awesome.  Something very strange is
>>> happening.  Have any of you gone to your page on the mobile sight,
>>> clicked on the profile link and noticed something different?  It
>>> looks like the normal fb page, and stuff doesn't seem accessible at
>>> all.   Can you guys take a look?  This is what i see.
>>>
>>> I see messages button, friend requests button, all these buttons that
>>> never existed.
>>> Anyone seen this yet, it seems rather unaccessible.  I'm trying tog
>>> et to my activity log, but can't seem to do that.  Any ideas?
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RE: a concerning facebook problem

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I did hear this weekend at our NFB State convention that they have made some 
upgrades that are affecting blind peeps, but nothing earthshattering like 
mentioned below.  The only thing is the pictures now say, "there are 2 adults 
and one child," or whtever or something like that.  It tells you how many are 
in the picture.  Which, personally I think is kind of fun.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 9:17 AM
To: Mike Rogers; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: a concerning facebook problem

 I just took a look, and mine has no buttons, just links, this is 
using internet Explorer 11.
  Now, Facebook could be rolling out a new design and it's entirely 
possible that we'll all see this eventually. but for now, mine works as 
advertised.


On 4/7/2016 10:40 AM, Mike Rogers via Talk wrote:
> Mine seems the same as always.
>
> 
>
> www.harmonicaworkshops.com
> www.woodeneyemusic.com
>
>
> On Thu, 7 Apr 2016 10:10:05 -0400
> Jed Barton via Talk  wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>> I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, but am trying to get to 
>> the bottom of it.  Like you, i use the mobile fb sight for everything and it 
>> works awesome.  Something very strange is happening.  Have any of you gone 
>> to your page on the mobile sight, clicked on the profile link and noticed 
>> something different?  It looks like the normal fb page, and stuff doesn't 
>> seem accessible at all.   Can you guys take a look?  This is what i see.
>>
>> I see messages button, friend requests button, all these buttons that never 
>> existed.
>> Anyone seen this yet, it seems rather unaccessible.  I'm trying tog et to my 
>> activity log, but can't seem to do that.  Any ideas?
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RE: a concerning facebook problem

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

My question to you, are you talking it is different when you use 
something like an Ipad, Iphone or the like?  Or just from the mobile site?
F the latter, I used it all day yesterday and did  not have troubles.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Jed Barton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 8:10 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: a concerning facebook problem

Hey guys,
I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, but am trying to get 
to the bottom of it.  Like you, i use the mobile fb sight for everything 
and it works awesome.  Something very strange is happening.  Have any of 
you gone to your page on the mobile sight, clicked on the profile link 
and noticed something different?  It looks like the normal fb page, and 
stuff doesn't seem accessible at all.   Can you guys take a look?  This 
is what i see.

I see messages button, friend requests button, all these buttons that 
never existed.
Anyone seen this yet, it seems rather unaccessible.  I'm trying tog et 
to my activity log, but can't seem to do that.  Any ideas?
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RE: Attachment Correcttion

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Me too, love love that parachute saying.  How true, how true!

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 7:19 PM
To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Attachment Correcttion

Hi Rebecca,

Thank you very much for your thorough response.
Were the Outlook Enhance app to have been installed and active, Kurzweil
Calendar should not have had precedence;
Rather, Window-Eyes hotkeys always do.
Thanks so much for the parachute analogy for the mind; my wife and I both
had a good chuckle at the irony. Smile

Peace and long life (as the Vulcans say),

Rod

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[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rebecca Lineberger via Talk
Sent: April 6, 2016 7:21 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Attachment Correcttion

You never know what you'll learn if you but try it!  Smile.

I thought I'd tried the control-alt-a hot key when it first was made
available to access the attachment list, and the Kurzweil calendar opened
instead.  But when I tried it just now, the list of attachments opened, just
as Window-Eyes said it should!  Isn't technology wonderful!  LOL.

Rebecca

 

 

 

A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.

 

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saving attachments

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Please could you tell me how to save attachments in Outlook. I thought it was 
control S, but that doesn't work.  So what I've been doing, is selecting it, 
cutting it and pasting it into a word doc.  Too much trouble.

Veronica
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RE: My side or yours

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I just meant to mention it and have someone on the list tell me if they too 
were having problems.  
That was then, since then this past weekend, it actually worked.  So I don't 
know if the link was broken and now its fixed or what.


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn via Talk
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 7:52 AM
To: Veronica Smith; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: My side or yours

Well, it is definitely not my side as I have no control on downloads. Perhaps 
you meant to send to wesupport? Or would you like everybody on the list to 
attempt your download in which case you should send us the link you are having 
troubles with.

My apologies in advance for  not contributing any value to the conversation.
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On 18 Mar 2016, at 23:56, Veronica Smith via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've tried to download the new version and it gets to about 85% and then
> blows chunks.  It boings and said "An error has occurred." Do you suppose
> this is my side or yours? 
> Veronica
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RE: I have had enough

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I cannot help you but wanted to chime in here.  Be careful when messing around 
with that link.  Supposedly if you accidently click on it, there is no turning 
back. This info comes from Microsoft itself.  

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Neville via Talk
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 12:01 AM
To: Window Eyes
Subject: I have had enough

Hi Listers,


I have had enough doing battle with Windows 10 wanting to update my 
system every couple of hours. So, it is time to stop it in its tracks 
before I loose my cool.

A couple of weeks ago there was mention of a file in two formats to deal 
with this pest.  I thought I had saved the messages to a safe place but 
now can't locate them.

Could someone please post the info once again so I can deliver this pest 
a mortal blow.


Also some details on how to use the file would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks
Neville.
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RE: WE 9.4

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I didn't get an email, but I think I got a reminder on my computer. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 10:56 AM
To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: WE 9.4

I didn't get an email about this either.--Matthew Chao


-- 
Matthew Chao 

On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 12:37:22 -0500
Darrell Bowles via Talk  wrote:

> There is a 9.4? How come I didn't receive an email about this?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Mar 8, 2016, at 12:27 PM, John Farley via Talk 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I have now also installed 9.4 and it has started up OK and I am pleased
> > about that.
> > 
> > However, I did not see any public announcement of its availability as has
> > been past practice.
> > Was there any?
> > If not, why not?
> > 
> > When did it become available?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Regards, John
> > 
> > Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
> > Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Talk
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> > Behalf Of Don H via Talk
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 5:02 PM
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> > Subject: WE 9.4
> > 
> > Just installed WE 9.4
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RE: WE 9.4

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

That's what happened to me last time, for 9.3, they said then, it was because 
everyone and their brother was installing it.  The system was extremely busy. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 10:50 AM
To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: WE 9.4

  the setup window is just sitting here doing nothing. I really wish the 
AI squared guys would add something to the installer that lets people 
know something is actually happening, like files are being extracted, or 
theusual message such as that.  This setup window has literally been 
sitting on my screen for about 5 minutes doing nothing.  anyone else 
experienced this and how do you fix it so I can install 9.4?
Thanks!






On 3/8/2016 12:37 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
> There is a 9.4? How come I didn't receive an email about this?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 12:27 PM, John Farley via Talk 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I have now also installed 9.4 and it has started up OK and I am pleased
>> about that.
>>
>> However, I did not see any public announcement of its availability as has
>> been past practice.
>> Was there any?
>> If not, why not?
>>
>> When did it become available?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards, John
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
>> Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>> Behalf Of Don H via Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 5:02 PM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: WE 9.4
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the outlook calendar

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

So what I need to know, if you could help me, my boss wants me to share her 
calendar and she sent me an invite, how do I accept.  The message I got says to 
click the link above, but I cannot find it.
Help!
Veronica
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What is Where mode?

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I was trying to open one of the emails I found here earlier and when it opened, 
all it would say was "Where mode active."  What is that and how do I get rid of 
it?

Veronica
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RE: Dictation Bridge

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

So, I have a question.  What exactly does this do?  When I click on it, it asks 
me to open or save, however when my co-worker clicks on the link, it shows him 
a list of the books he has been downloading from Bard.
Veronica

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 2:10 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Dictation Bridge

Hi,

Here's a link to a demo of a new dictation solution for screen reader users:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lcqgi33ou6q5f68/DictationBridge%20Promo.mp3?dl=1

Enjoy,

Rod
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Remind me how

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

If I wanted to add another email address to your list, where do I go to do it?
Veronica
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Protected view

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I honestly thought I knew how to unprotect something, however obviously I 
didn't learn very well.  Could you please share the tip to unprotect it.
Veronica
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RE: speech shutting off

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Sometimes it is just tempermental. 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 7:34 AM
To: Singing Sparrow; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: speech shutting off

Me too, sometimes Ctrl alt w works and sometimes it don't

-Original Message- 
From: Singing Sparrow via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 12:45 AM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; richard kurlander
Subject: Re: speech shutting off

I have had this happen and even using the conrtrol alt w  hot key comand
does not bring window eyes back up.

On 2/14/2016 11:51 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:
> did you use  the w e hot keys to restart it?
> i think its control alt w.
> i don't remember. i change the keys to control alt insert 10 years ago.
> hate to say it but this has been happening several times per day
> but it can also happen when the computer hybernates or is it sleep mode 
> now? and you wake it up.
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: richard kurlander via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 8:46 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: speech shutting off
>
> using windoweyes/ es 9.2.3 and windows 8.1 at random speech cuts
> off can't do anything on the computer. I was idle on the computer and
> this happened. had to power down with power and restart. what is going on?
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Saving PDF files

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I'm sure you probably already told us how to do this, but could you remind me 
once again.
Also, if I have Open Book installed in my computer, aren't I suppose to be able 
to read scanned documents that someone sends to me?
Sometimes I feel so confused.
V
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RE: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and internet explorer

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I have that exact problem and I have 9.3. I would love to find out how to fix 
this. V  

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Casey via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:53 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and 
internet explorer

Hi I am using window-eyes 9.0 and windows 7.
How do you get the mouse keys in window-eyes to read in Firefox, 
Thunderbird, and internet explorer?
I used to be able to do this.
Then I had Microsoft remote in to my computer and they had to do A 
repair on windows and then didn't delete anything.
But now when I try to read with the3 mouse in any of the programs that I 
stated earlier in this message.
all is I get is DING, DING, DING.
When I try
-- 
Casey
to read with the mouse keys in any of those programs.
I am soon going to upgrade to the latest version of window-eyes.
So then will that fix this also?

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RE: deleting unwanted messages

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I don't have Thunderbird, just Microsoft.  Is it the same?  I tried and nothing 
happened.

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On Behalf Of Jim via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 12:30 PM
To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: deleting unwanted messages

Hi Nick!
After emptying the folder with the CTRL-A go check the trash folder.  
The messages that you just deleted should wind up in the trash folder 
unless you have your system set to empty trash each time you exit 
ThunderBird.  Generally what I do after deleting mail from a folder is 
exit that particular folder and then re-enter it and see iff there is 
anything still there.  Good Luck  A Great Day! de
.

On 09-Feb-16 13:26, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
> I use Thunderbird, I hit control-a, then the delete key and that seems 
> to empty the folder but I can't verify that they are gone.
>
> On 2/9/2016 12:21 PM, Smith, Veronica via Talk wrote:
>> Hello, I am positive you told me this once before, but I didn't write 
>> it down, thinking this old brain would remember.
>> But, I do not.
>> What hot key do you use to empty the deleted folder or any other 
>> folder for that matter?
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Vronica
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deleting unwanted messages

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Hello, I am positive you told me this once before, but I didn't write it down, 
thinking this old brain would remember.
But, I do not.
What hot key do you use to empty the deleted folder or any other folder for 
that matter?
Thanks in advance!
Vronica
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RE: deleting unwanted messages

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Isn't  it control, shift S.

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On Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 1:44 PM
To: Tom Kingston; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: deleting unwanted messages

So what is the status line hot key?

-Bob


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From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 11:50 AM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: deleting unwanted messages

After deleting any messages I just hit the status line hot key. It tells
me how many were moved from the current folder to trash followed by
unread count and total count. So if I delete all it will say, moved x
messages from current folder name to Trash, Unread 0, Total 0.

Tom


On 2/9/2016 2:29 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:
> Hi Nick!
> After emptying the folder with the CTRL-A go check the trash folder. The
> messages that you just deleted should wind up in the trash folder unless
> you have your system set to empty trash each time you exit ThunderBird.
> Generally what I do after deleting mail from a folder is exit that
> particular folder and then re-enter it and see iff there is anything
> still there.  Good Luck  A Great Day! de
> .
>
> On 09-Feb-16 13:26, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
>> I use Thunderbird, I hit control-a, then the delete key and that seems
>> to empty the folder but I can't verify that they are gone.
>>
>> On 2/9/2016 12:21 PM, Smith, Veronica via Talk wrote:
>>> Hello, I am positive you told me this once before, but I didn't write
>>> it down, thinking this old brain would remember.
>>> But, I do not.
>>> What hot key do you use to empty the deleted folder or any other
>>> folder for that matter?
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>> Vronica
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RE: app update today

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

So You are saying it runs by itself? We don't have to prompt it in anyway?
Veronica 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 4:59 PM
To: Neville; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: app update today

Hi,
It is the app that runs after you install window eyes to configure settings.


Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 3, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Neville via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Just received the notice to update two apps.  One is called "setup wizard".  
> Can anyone inform me what this app does?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Neville.
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RE: Copy and paste from notepad

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

What I did was hit shift down arrow, the control C.  Then went to the document 
I needed and hit Controll V.  
 But it was strange, the first few times I tried, it did not work. 
Vronica
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Paulette Vickery via Talk
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 9:20 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Copy and paste from notepad

Hi all,

 

I am using Windows 7 and Window Eyes 9.3. How do I copy and paste from
notepad? F8 doesn't work. When I use Control I think that it pastes, but I
can't get it from the clipboard. Please help. Thanks.

 

Paulette

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tool tip trouble

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I'm not sure what happened to the tool tips, but now  only half the message is 
read. I tried redrawing the screen, but it still doesn't want to change its 
mind.  Any suggestions?

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RE: question

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I use gmail. But I can't tell you how it got on my phone, my hubby put it there.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Afik Sofir via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:17 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: question 

 

I know that is not relate to window-eyes,

But I want to ask you, if there any mailing list or something for iphone
blind users?

Thanks 

Afik.

 

 

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RE: Fire Fox Work around?

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I don't have this problem at all.  I am still using Windows 7 though. V

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 8:48 AM
To: A I Squared Support List
Subject: Fire Fox Work around?

Hello,

I once used I.E 11, but it crashes far too often.

I am now using Firefox, but have run into an issue, perhaps someone here
has a work around.

I'll be on a Web Page, there will be Links, I can Arrow down or up to
those links.

However, when I wish to choose one, Pressing the Enter Key does nothing. 
Pressing the Space Bar and then Enter also does nothing.

Am I missing a Trick to get Firefox to activate or follow these Links?

Thanks,

Grumpy Dave

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RE: context key in ie we 9.3.1.0

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Speaking of downloads, before I got 9.3, I could download movies from 
Blindsmart, but for some reason, I can't even get anything now. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Barbara via Talk
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 8:06 AM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: context key in ie we 9.3.1.0

I have had the same issue with downloads.  Although per a suggestion I had,
if I turn off my braille display in WE all works.

Barbara


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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+batterseye=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 8:58 AM
To: Jim Ruby ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: context key in ie we 9.3.1.0

Yes, yes  yes!  This has not happened until I upgraded to 9.3, but it 
doesn't happen with all sites, I don't think.  I know that it happens with 
one sight:  www.rollye.net, when I go into the downloads section, and I want

to download one of her shows.  I can't even get window eyes to start up 
again.  I get the music, but nothing else.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Jim Ruby via Talk
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 9:55 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: context key in ie we 9.3.1.0

Hi, when using the context menu key to copy a link to the clipboard we will
lock up, this happens just about 100% of the time. In most cases I can never
get we back and hve to reboot the computer.

1 cursor to a a link and press context menu key and press t then enter to
copy the link to the clipboard.
Some times we crashes the minute you use the key and some times when you
press "t"

You can also try and rout the mouse pointer to the link and right click,
same thing happens.

Any ideas? For this to be happen so often I've had to resort to other screen
reading options, so is anyone else running in to this or have a solution?

Thanks.
We 9.3.1.0
Windows 10 x 64
Latest ie installed


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RE: Navigating Facebook, a Frustrating Experience

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Helen, use the mobile site.  It is for sure blind person friendly.  I got on an 
email group of theirs awhile back and when ever they make changes to it, they 
send me an email and ask how it affects me a total,  using it. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Helen Murphy via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 6:02 AM
To: Matthew Chao; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Navigating Facebook, a Frustrating Experience

face book is not blind friendly ive heard a lot of people say that. I'm a 
partial sighted person legally blind and it took a very, very long time to 
master it. helen murphy

On Tue, 1/26/16, Matthew Chao via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: Navigating Facebook, a Frustrating Experience
 To: grimwoodpi...@btinternet.com, "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
 Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 7:32 AM
 
 Hi, Robert.  Yes. 
 It's much better than conventional Facebook, though
 it has some shortcomings.  If only Facebook
 were easier overall. 
 Thanks.--Matthew
 Chao
 
 
 --
 
 Matthew Chao <mattc...@verizon.net>
 
 On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 06:25:00
 +
 Robert Grimwood via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
 wrote:
 
 >         
 Dear Matthew,
 > 
 >
 have you tried m.facebook.com on your computer? For some
 reason it seems to be more easily accessible, although it is
 not perfect.
 > 
 >
 Cheerio,
 > Robert
 >
 
 > On 1/26/2016 5:52 AM, Bryan Peterson
 via Talk wrote:
 > > I can definitely
 agree with that.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > Focus your powers and prepare for
 buttle.
 > > -Original Message-
 From: Jed Barton via Talk
 > > Sent:
 Monday, January 25, 2016 9:25 PM
 > >
 To: Smith, Veronica ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 > > Subject: Re: Navigating Facebook, a
 Frustrating Experience
 > >
 > > i won't use anything but fb
 mobile, it's super easy.  No need to get
 > > frustrated with the regular sight
 > >
 > > On
 1/25/2016 4:04 PM, Smith, Veronica via Talk wrote:
 > >> Sign into FB Mobile.  It is so
 easy, you'll wonder why you didn't go >> there
 first.
 > >>
 >
 >> -Original Message-
 >
 >> From: Talk >>
 [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com]
 On >> Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
 > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016
 9:08 AM
 > >> To: Window-Eyes
 Discussion List
 > >> Subject:
 Navigating Facebook, a Frustrating Experience
 > >>
 > >> Hi,
 Folks.  Have been up on Facebook trying to take care of
 things. Am
 > >> having trouble
 reading the messages I want to read and sending out new
 > >> ones.  Also, tough finding
 recent messages.  Is there an easy way to
 > >> navigate this Web Site?  I find
 it extremely frustrating and a great
 >
 >> consumer of wasted time.  Any help would be
 appreciated.  Thanks in
 > >>
 advance.--Matthew Chao
 > >>
 > >> P.S.  the alt-number keys
 don't seem to work.
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RE: Navigating Facebook, a Frustrating Experience

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Sign into FB Mobile.  It is so easy, you'll wonder why you didn't go there 
first.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 9:08 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Navigating Facebook, a Frustrating Experience

Hi, Folks.  Have been up on Facebook trying to take care of things. Am 
having trouble reading the messages I want to read and sending out new 
ones.  Also, tough finding recent messages.  Is there an easy way to 
navigate this Web Site?  I find it extremely frustrating and a great 
consumer of wasted time.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks in 
advance.--Matthew Chao

P.S.  the alt-number keys don't seem to work.

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RE: App Get

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Speaking of App Get, on my computer at home, no such beast exists.  How can I 
get it? V

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Michael Massey via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 4:56 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: App Get

Hi.  Just a few minutes ago, I turned on both my laptop and desktop
computers, both running Windows 10.  After the laptop booted up and
Window-eyes 9.3.1 launched, I was notified of an update available.  So I
installed it.  Yet when I check the installed updates in the add or remove
dialog, there is no update showing as being installed today.  When I checked
the package manager to determine which updates are running, I hear that the
app get update is version 1.2.5, but the apps shown as running display a
version number 1.2.4.  Could somebody please tell me why the app get version
numbers don't match?  And can somebody tell me which update was installed on
my laptop after I am certain I heard the tone notifying me of an update and
an update downloaded and installed?  

 

Mike M. 

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RE: w-e 9.3

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I use it, haven't had any problems except the no attachment thing.  But even 
that has corrected itself. Hmm, V

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On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 4:04 PM
To: Norene Trappa; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: w-e 9.3

That's what I am using.  It worked pretty well until it starting slowing 
down on Friday.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 4:26 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: w-e 9.3

I am still using windows 7.  Will w-e 9.3 work nicely with windows 7?

Norene

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RE: Introducing Window-Eyes 9.3.1

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Same here

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Linda Mentink via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:34 AM
To: Aaron Smith; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Introducing Window-Eyes 9.3.1

I have tried three times to get the upgrade. My computer keeps saying 
"progressing," and eventually closes. What do I do? Call AI Squared 
and get remote assistance? Thanks.

At 10:39 AM 12/16/2015, you wrote:
>Get Built-in Optical Character Recognition and a Faster User 
>Experience with Window-Eyes 9.3
>
>Window-Eyes 9.3 is now available providing customers with the 
>ability to recognize text from files or the screen with built in 
>Optical Character Recognition. This version also offers a more 
>reliable and stable user experience that will help maximize your 
>productivity at work, home, and school.
>Keep reading to learn more about the features and enhancements in 
>Window-Eyes 9.3:
>
>Extract Text from Files, Images and the Screen Quickly and Easily
>
>*Recognize text in inaccessible scanned PDF files.
>
>*Recognize text from images in .bmp, .jpg, .png, and .tiff formats.
>
>*Choose from several different kinds of file types to 
>recognize, including .txt, .html, .xml, and .zip.
>
>*If Office is installed, you can also OCR documents ending 
>in .docx, .pptx, and .xlsx.
>
>*Word, Excel, and PowerPoint files can be recognized, 
>including text found in WordArt to ensure readability.
>All-New Read to End
>
>*Read-to-end has been completely rewritten to provide the 
>most responsive and accurate reading experience.
>
>*When read-to-end is stopped, it will start again from the 
>word that was last spoken to help save time and increase efficiency.
>
>*If a Braille display is connected, Braille output will 
>remain in sync with speech as documents are read aloud.
>
>*Hot keys used to increase or decrease speech are much more 
>responsive, enabling users to more easily read documents in the 
>manner they prefer.
>Microsoft Office
>
>*Improved reading of all spell check dialogs in Office 2010, 
>2013, and 2016.
>
>*Responsiveness of the Outlook 2010, 2013, and 2016 inbox 
>under Windows 10 has been improved to make reading email faster.
>
>*Outlook's conversation view in 2010, 2013, and 2016 is now 
>supported so that users can group messages with the same subject 
>enabling reading of all messages within a thread quickly and easily.
>
>*If Window-Eyes was restarted while Outlook was open, 
>message virtualization would stop functioning until Outlook was 
>restarted. This issue has been fixed.
>
>*When a PowerPoint slideshow started, and Window-Eyes was 
>set to automatically read the entire document, only the content of 
>the first slide would be spoken. This has been fixed.
>
>*If the version of Window-Eyes for users of Microsoft Office 
>was in use, and the Office 365 sign-in window was closed without 
>first entering any text, Window-Eyes would crash. This has been resolved.
>
>*Other miscellaneous fixes.
>Mouse Improvements
>
>*The physical mouse now reads UIA and IA2 programs, which 
>improves the reading experience in programs such as web browsers and 
>modern Windows apps.
>
>*A hot key to continue a mouse search in reverse has been added.
>
>*Window-Eyes can now read an entire line or only a word 
>under the pointer as the physical mouse moves across the screen.
>
>*The mouse can now be set to read instant, hover, or no echo 
>when moving the mouse around the screen. If the user sets it to 
>hover, the amount of time can be adjusted before the information 
>under the mouse is spoken. This allows low vision users better 
>control over what they hear when the mouse moves around the screen.
>
>*Other miscellaneous fixes.
>Other Fixes
>
>*Responsiveness in the Windows 10 File Explorer has been improved.
>
>*Quickly check the status of wireless network connections 
>with a single hot key.
>
>*Responsiveness for Eloquence, eSpeak, RealSpeak, Vocalizer, 
>and Vocalizer Expressive synthesizers has been significantly improved.
>
>*The WE cursor (which allows you to explore the screen 
>without moving the mouse pointer) has been renamed to the invisible 
>cursor to better reflect its functionality.
>
>*The QuickStart Wizard has been replaced with a new app 
>called Setup Wizard providing a new visual interface and more 
>options to help users get started using Window-Eyes.
>
>*The app update notification options that are displayed when 
>updates are available have been expanded to include a tone, dialog 
>box, tooltip, or any combination of the three.  This enables users 
>to select how they want to be notified of app updates.
>
>*Support has been added for the Handy Tech Active Star, 
>Handy Tech Modular, 

RE: windows10 with no vision at all

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Thank you, what I have heard is that Windows 10 has these little pop ups that 
spontaneously appear and if you accidently enter or click on one, your voice 
goes away.  True or false?
V

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Josh K via Talk
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 12:04 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: windows10 with no vision at all

hi
I have been using windows10 with no vision at all since it came out in 
july of this year. I have been totally blind since birth and for a 
totally blind person like myself windows10 is way way better and faster 
and has even better accessibility than windows7 once you tweak one or 
two things like set your default browser to internet explorer rather 
than microsoft edge. and that is quite easy to do. windows10 is super 
fast just like windows xp was and its even faster now that i put a solid 
state hard drive in my computer.

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RE: how to rasie the volume on youtube using window-eyes

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Speaking of You tube, how in the world do you delete videos you no longer are 
interested in?
V

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 4:45 PM
To: Casey; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: how to rasie the volume on youtube using window-eyes

I am using a desk top computer.  After I click on a video, I turn browse 
mode off, and tab down to settings.  Once I am there, I up arrow until 
it gets to 100, although WE does not say anything. However, if you shift 
tab, it will tell you if your volume is at %100.

On 12/13/2015 6:17 PM, Casey via Talk wrote:
> Hi I am using internet explorer and window-eyes 9.0.
> And I have looked in my system tray.
> And my internet explorer volume is at 100 percent.
> But when I play A you tube video the volume on it is very low.
> So if you can change the volume level on you tube how do you go about 
> doing this?
> With window-eyes or can this not be done?
>
>

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RE: monthly updates

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

A question for you, Kenny.  Do you have any vision at all?  I have heard that 
Windows 10 is a bear if you do not.  I am intrigued that you said you can use 
it without a problem.
Veronica

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 11:01 PM
To: Josh Rivera; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: monthly updates

I know this doesn't sound good. but microsoft has the habit of doing 
this through windows update. I am running windows 10 on my laptop and it 
runs great. I have no problems with windows 10. The best thing I would 
do is take the check out of the windows 10 update, and download all the 
other updates. And if you want to go ahead and download windows 10 
latter on, then you can put a check back in the update and hit the 
install button.
Kenny Peyatt

On 12/10/2015 1:12 PM, Josh Rivera via Talk wrote:
> I am also running Win-7 still, but when I go to the downloads, they are
> usually all checked, and Win-10 is the last on the list, and I just uncheck
> it, and all is good to go.
> Josh
>
>
>   
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+josh.riveranr=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Neville via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 4:41 AM
> To: Window Eyes
> Subject: monthly updates
>
> Hi,
>
> I am attempting to install the monthly updates on my W 7 HP 32 bit
> system and it keeps trying to download W10.  There are 12 or 13 updates
> for W7 and after checking all the boxes, pressing space on OK, I am left
> with a "get started" option.   This is the only option available as the
> 'install button" is no longer to be found.
>
> Pressing enter onthis options starts the download of the monthly
> updates but it also says at the top, "downloading Windows 10".
>
> As I am not ready to install W10 as yet, turning off the modem stopped
> the download of all updates. Checking the update history, it showed that
> the intended updates failed but the first entry mentioned that the
> download of W10 also failed.
>
>
> Has anyone come across this one  and figured out how to get the monthly
> updates without triggering a W10 invasion?
>
>
> Thanks
> Neville.
>
>
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RE: Amazon problems

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I just did this very minute and like you, sped right through.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Les Gordon via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:28 AM
To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Amazon problems

hello, i always type in www.amazon.com/access
and it takes me to there accessibility site and i have no problems placing 
orders and accessing features of my account. hope this helps.

- Original Message - 
From: "Rebecca Lineberger via Talk" 
To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 1:10 PM
Subject: Amazon problems


>I sent this to Paulette, but am forwarding it to the list in case others
> have solutions or comments to send to Amazon.
> Rebecca Lineberger
> I have a similar problem with the stripped down version of the Amazon site
> for screen readers, the one with 16 links.  On the second page of results,
> there's no next or previous link.
> If you delete the cookie for Amazon, the next time you go to Amazon, you
> should be taken to the full site with 261 links.  I can no longer use this
> to purchase items because I have to fill out a captcha to sign in, which I
> can't do.
> There is a link at the top of the page though for screen reader users. 
> This
> site, unlike the stripped down version you mentioned, has 77 links.
> Everything works as it should on this site.  However, at least on my
> computer, once I close the site, the next time I try to go to Amazon,
> because there is now a cookie on my computer, I'm taken to the stripped 
> down
> site, the one with 16 links.  So round and round we go, removing the 
> cookie
> to gain access to the full site, going to the intermediate site, and
> eventually, back to the stripped down one.  The intermediate site at least
> has a link to the full page, which the stripped down version does not.
> I sent Amazon an e-mail, telling them about the broken next and previous
> links, but never heard anything back.  Here's the information, should you
> want to add your comments.
> Contacting the Accessibility Team
> The Amazon Accessibility Team encourages feedback from users of their
> website and mobile applications. For questions,  comments, or concerns, 
> send
> an email to
> accessibility-feedb...@amazon.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Paulette Vickery via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 12:38 PM
> To: 'afik sofir'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: Amazon problems: was, RE: facebook chat and window-eyes
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have noticed that Amazon has changed it site, again. Now I can't get 
> past
> the second page. When I go to Amazon, I hear, 15 links. That is fine, that
> is what it used to say. But now, a lot of small things are different. 
> There
> is a lot of junk at the top. The items in a search result are no longer
> numbered, and there are several things besides the name of the item and 
> the
> price before I get to the next item. Then, when I get to the end of the 
> item
> list, I hear the word, next. There is no longer a list of pages to choose
> from. I have to turn on forms mode, or whatever it is called, in order to 
> be
> able to enter on next. Then I have to turn it off again when I get to the
> next page. When I finished going down the item list on page 2, I hear, top
> of page. There is no, previous, or list of pages to go too. Before this
> change, I could browse through 20 pages of choices; now I only have 2 
> pages,
> regardless of the item in the search result.
> This is quite frustrating! I want to be able to browse multiple pages like 
> I
> did before last Thursday! Please help.
>
> Paulette
>
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RE: need help with settings

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

If you ask the question here, the answer could help others.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Jim Ardin via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 2:04 PM
To: WINDOW EYES talk
Subject: need help with settings

hi, I need some help with wE settings! when I ask for some help before, 
some of you send me your phone number and help me over the phone! I hope 
I can
get the same help again!so please! please! help!
if you want to call me, please send me a email off list, and I will send 
you my phone number! or send me your number and when I can call!
my email is:
k4...@comcast.net

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RE: selecting text

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Hear herar, I also love it.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 3:59 AM
To: Sonya Ergle; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: selecting text

Sonya, one Caveat, this method only works in files where brows mode is 
used, otherwise you can use the old shift+arrow keys to perform this 
function.

At first, you might wonder why this should be so necessary, or at least 
convenient. One way I find this method to be useful is when I wish to 
select text from a web page, say from header to header or from link to 
link. The F8 method locks the selection in place so that you don't have 
to move manually through so much text in order to make that selection. 
You don't even have to worry about accidentally losing your selected 
text along the way, which can get quite frustrating. Instead, you can 
just press the h or shift+h keys and voila, you have made your 
selection, and you can once again press the F8 key where there will be a 
dialog box with the option to copy the text to the clipboard where from 
there you can copy your selected text to an  editor or what ever. I 
really hope the people at I Squared never do away with this new method 
of selecting because it works so well, even though occasionally I forget 
to press the button to copy selected text to the clipboard.

On 12/7/2015 12:13 AM, Sonya Ergle via Talk wrote:
> I’m using Windows 10 and Window-Eyes 9.2. What are the key strokes for 
> selecting text? thank you
> Sonya
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was RE: update warning! Now new question

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

So below you have a quote, could you please tell me how to do that.  
veronica

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of William Vandervest via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 7:43 PM
To: annether...@ozemail.com.au; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: update warning!

what program is that, I'd love to get rid of that win 10 thing too 



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RE: Replies and where they go?

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I really don't know why it happens here on this list, but on other lists I 
frequent, it is set up that way in the mail options. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 1:47 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Replies and where they go?

M Dorn asks:

I just replied about the I Devices mailing list and saw that it was
addressed to the original sender.  However, I did not see that it was
also addressed to the list.  I can see the logic for either but not
both.  Anybody know why a simple reply would be addressed to both the
original poster and the list?


That is because of the way that AISquared has the email set up. I also think
that the posts should not be addressed to the person and the email list
both. This causes the person to get two copies.

When replying to the List, go into the to: box and delete either the persons
address or the email list.

If you delete the person's email, the message will go to the List and the
person will get it.

If you delete the List address, then only the person will get the message,
not the entire list.

HTH - Bob Ringwald

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RE: TEST TO SEE IF i SIGNED UP RIGHT

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

yup

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Jim Ardin via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 4:59 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: TEST TO SEE IF i SIGNED UP RIGHT


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RE: WE and duck duck go

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I have that same problem with MSN.  Oh and now, I'm not exactly sure 
what changed on my home page, but I cannot find the edit field to search.  
G, any ideas what I should do. v

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On Behalf Of Don H via Talk
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 8:48 AM
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Subject: WE and duck duck go

When I use duckduckgo as my search engine after each result of a search 
it says
Your browser indicates if you've visited this link
Is there a way to get rid of this verbage in duckduckgo results?
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The key pad

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I'm still a bit confused, my keypad doesn't read my emails.  Iturn WE on, then 
I hit the 7 and it says top left, but that is all it says, if I hit 9, it says 
top right, if I hit the 2, it says send or it Reads a menu. Like if I hit the 
Alt F.
It used to read who sent it and all that other info when I went to the top.
Veronica
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RE: OT Very Strange Thing Happened

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

'I'd suggest you ask your son-in-law what it said. 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:29 PM
To: Talk
Subject: OT Very Strange Thing Happened

I am visiting my daughter and family in NY. Everyone is asleep at 1:00 AM. I 
woke up, got up and came into the dining room and turned on my computer which 
was plugged in there charging the battery. 

This loud burglar alarm type noise started. It was very loud. Sounded like a 
car alarm in that it kept changing alarm sounds. Beeping, then steady  tone 
then other tones then back to beeping. It was so loud that I did not connect it 
with my computer. 

I thought that my daughter had an alarm system with a motion detector that they 
neglected to tell me about. 

Finally my son in law got up, staggered into the room half asleep and turned 
off my computer. He read something on the screen but I was so shocked that I 
don’t remember what it was.
I can’t imagine my computer making such a racket. 

Has anyone else ever encountered such a thing? I’ve had computers since about 
1988 and never had this happen. 

I have a Del lap top with Win 10, WE 9.2.


Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet 
Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing)
916/ 806-9551
Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV

On average, an American man will have sex two to three times a week, whereas a 
Japanese man will have sex only one or two times a year.  This is upsetting 
news to meI had no idea I was Japanese. 
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RE: Navigating Facebook with WE 9.2

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I use FB mobile.  It is the easiest and blind friendly.  If you are using it, 
then in answer to your questions.   I type the letter e to find the edit box 
and press enter.  I write my response then tab to either post or comment.
As for pokes, I find them in my notifications.  I receive a message that says, 
so and so poked you, would you like to poke back?

HTH, Veronica 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:27 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Navigating Facebook with WE 9.2

Hi, Folks.  I reviewed the Webinar on Facebook and accessibility with 
Window-Eyes, but am still confused.

When replying or commenting, how do you send the comment or 
message?  Also, how do you find the "pokes"?  Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao

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RE: very frustrated with pdf files

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Mine was doing that, but only if I chose "read all." So I started selecting the 
second choice and it seems to be working. 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 8:57 AM
To: j...@jedbarton.com; Jed Barton; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: very frustrated with pdf files

I can't even get the document.  It just keeps saying converting document, 
then it says nothing, and the computer won't talk.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Jed Barton via Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 12:57 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: very frustrated with pdf files

Hey guys,
Well, having not used adobe in so long, to say i'm discouraged is a huge
uhnder statement.  Why can't this thing just work?  What am i doing
wrong, i an not navigate this document to save my life.
Guys correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm assuming the following.

1 to get to the top of any pdf document you do control and home
2 to navigate throughout a document you use the up and down arrows and
control page up and control page down.  Someone mentioned something that
to get to a list of bookmarks in a document, you hit f6, and all my
adobe is saying is blank page edit.  I'm hitting control tab, nothing.
What is going on here?  This shouldn't be this complicated.  Any ideas?
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RE: Event Manager Status

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I didn't know how to get there either.  That is why I so do love this list.  
Learning and learning every day!

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Linda Mentink via Talk
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 12:26 PM
To: Tom Kingston; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Event Manager Status

Hi Tom,

I don't know how to get to the system tray. I'm sorry I'm such a bother!

Blessings,

Linda

At 10:34 PM 11/5/2015, Tom Kingston wrote:
>Linda,
>
>It may be a utility of some sort that loads at start up and is then 
>minimized to the system tray. I have one of these for my audio 
>interface that I hear every time I reboot before it's minimized to 
>the tray. Try Insert-S and see if it's in that list of the system tray.
>
>I just Googled it and there's an event manager for Epson printers/scanners.
>
>Hth,
>Tom
>
>
>On 11/5/2015 10:36 PM, Linda Mentink via Talk wrote:
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I'm running WE 9.2 on Windows 7, 64-bit. At start-up, Window-Eyes says
>>Event Manager Status OK Close. What is Event Manager? Why does it come
>>up every time? Can I stop it? It doesn't stay on the screen, so I can't
>>find it to cllose it. The interesting thing is, I had a friend come over
>>and start up this computer. Window-Eyes said it, but she didn't see it
>>on the screen. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
>>
>>Blessings,
>>
>>Linda
>>
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RE: weird issue with browse mode

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I hear you loud and clear, but I just figured it was the nature of the beast.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 6:34 PM
To: Chris Skarstad; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: weird issue with browse mode

Hello,

The New version of Browse Mode at least on my system, tends to be a bit
quirky.  

Sometimes it works as it should, and other times, as you say, you need
to turn it On.   I see this all the time when visiting Youtube.  The
first screen reads and works fine, but the Search Result screen about
half the time, I need to turn on Browse mode.  

Guess the bottom line is that Yes, there is at least one other person
using 9.2 that finds Browse Mode to have its problems.  

I continue to struggle with 9.2 as I wait for any updates or upgrades.  


-- 
Dave 

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RE: 9.2 issue when on a website

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

My alt left arrow goes to the previous page.  Alt up arrow takes to the top, 
right? Veronica

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Dennis via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 10:49 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: 9.2 issue when on a website

Hi, when  in a list of searchs on like ebay.com for example I will read one
list then do alt left arrow.  Instead of windoweyes staying there it will
shoot to the top of the page.  Is there a way to fix this?  I'm using latest
windoweyes.

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protected view

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I know a bit ago you gave instructions on how to  get to a document that is 
under :"protected view."  I thought I saved it, but cannot find it.  Everytime 
I get an email from an apple product, it comes that way.  Help!
V
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Progress indicator

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I have been having difficulties  finding out just how much of my books from 
Bard are already downloaded.  So as I was perusing App Centrall today I found 
one called Progress Indicator and downloaded it.  So now I have a new dilemma, 
how do I use it?
Veronica
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RE: setting on desktop

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Mine lands there as well, I just type in the first letter of whatever I want to 
go there and the cursor reroutes itself.  Like M for Mozilla Fire Fox or MI for 
outlook.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 1:51 PM
To: Buntemeyer, Loren J.; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: setting on desktop

Isn't that it just says recycle bin?  It's not in the recycle bin; it just 
lands there.  You can press whatever letter you want to land on whatever 
icon you want.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Buntemeyer, Loren J. via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 12:22 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: setting on desktop

When I go to the desktop for the first time, it always goes to recycle ben. 
Is there a setting to change that to my email program since I usually go 
there first? Using windows 7.

Loren
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WE announcement

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Hello, just curious, every once in awhile my computer says, "Window-eyes, 
turned off." Seeing that it continues to talk and nothing seems to be amiff, I 
haven't worried about it.  But still I am still curious why it says anything.
Veronica
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RE: accessible google site

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

What is duck duck go?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 6:16 PM
To: Veronica Smith; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: accessible google site

I stopped that site, as it stopped working.  Actually, the regular google site 
works great for me, with Window Eyes.  So does Duck Duck Go.



www.harmonicaworkshops.com
www.woodeneyemusic.com


On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 15:10:49 -0700
Veronica Smith via Talk  wrote:

> What and where is the accessible google site?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+madison_tewe=spinn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
> Of Whizza via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:47 AM
> To: M and L Dorn; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: accessible google site
> 
> Hi,
> The accessible Google site is working for me no problems so makes me wonder 
> why it's working for some and not others.  How strange!
> 
> Cheers,
> Sandra. 
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RE: word 2013 spell and gramar check

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Speaking of spelling errors, have you all tried the insert tab combo?  It tells 
you what words are spelled incorrectly, but I cannot figure out how to correct 
them.  If you can, shove me in the right direction. 
Veronica

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:18 PM
To: Marc Solomon; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: word 2013 spell and gramar check

Hello Mark,
I appreciate the suggestion, but what if your error is extra spaces between 
words?
I have to admit, that the context menu option did not suggest anything, but 
the regular spel lcheck dialog did. I am not saying that having more than 
one option is not a good idea. But, this is something that should be fixed, 
so that more than one option is accessible.
For me, if it is a matter of spelling errors, I love the ability of jumping 
from error to error. But grammar errors,  do not always have suggestions in 
the context menu like the spelling errors do.
-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 2:10 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: word 2013 spell and gramar check

Robin's tip was spot on regarding how to access the suggestions Word 
provides for grammar errors in your document. To clarify, when Word flags a 
grammar error, it doesn't explain the error like an English teacher would in 
high school. Instead, Word only provides one or more suggestions that you 
can use to replace the grammatically incorrect text. For example, if I use 
the word too (with two o's) when I should have used to (with one o), the 
suggestion Word will provide in the context menu or in the Spelling and 
Grammar pane is the word to. It doesn't tell you anything about what 
homonyms are and how to pick the correct homonym based on its current 
context. With that being said, I did find that the Grammar pane provides 
definitions of suggested words. This text is accessible via the Mouse hot 
keys if you really needed it.
Regards,
Marc

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From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 1:44 PM
To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: word 2013 spell and gramar check

Once you get to the error, use the application key to pull down a list of 
options.  Sometimes I still find I need to read the sentence or a few words 
before the error to decide which is the correction options.



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Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:44 AM
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Subject: word 2013 spell and gramar check

I know you can navigate the spelling and gramar errors with window-eyes, but 
how do you get your gramar errors explained?
If this is not possible, then AI squared should address the accessibility 
with the Word user interface in a future version of window-eyes.
Thanks,
Darrell
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RE: Accessible Google

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I'm sorry, what are you all talking about, "accessible google?" V

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On Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:34 AM
To: Brice Mijares; Window-Eyes Discussion List
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Subject: Re: Accessible Google

I went back to the site.  It worked the first time.  Then I tried again and got 
the error message.  Guess I won't bother with it.



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RE: shortcut key strokes

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Awesome!  I will do just that! Thanks, Veronica

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 12:38 PM
To: 'Nick Sarames'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: shortcut key strokes

Hi Veronica,

Regardless of the email program you're using, the most reliable way to
forward an email is to highlight it in the list of messages, press the
Applications key, arrow down to Forward and press Enter.

Hth,

Rod

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Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: October 25, 2015 2:17 PM
To: Veronica Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: shortcut key strokes

Try control-l if you want to forward an e-mail.  Don't know if that's a 
Thunderbird key stroke, but maybe try it.

On 10/25/2015 10:46 AM, Veronica Smith via Talk wrote:
> The thing I find annoying is when I hit control-F to forward and it says,
> find.  It didn't used to do this, it makes me crazy. I have to back out
and
> start again. Grrr.
> Veronica
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+madison_tewe=spinn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf
> Of Dave Basden via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 1:09 PM
> To: Mike; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: shortcut key strokes
>
> Ever since GW Micro rewrote Browse mode, if you press a key before a
> page is loaded and your synthesizer stops reading it, the keystroke
> is taken as a silence key.  The second press works.  If you wait for
> things to settle down, the first press works.  I hope GW Micro fixes
> this in the next release--it's really annoying.
>
>
>
> At 10:41 AM 10/24/2015, you wrote:
>> Hello Everyone
>>
>> Since a recent recovery of my laptop, the shortcut key strokes in
>> browse mode,appear to be ignored until I repeat them.  Does anyone
>> have any ideas what may be the problem?
>>
>> With thanks in advance
>>
>> Mike.
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One more question about my system

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

This happens at work and at home, when I go to check a radio box, it does not 
say, "radio box checked." However, my friend who has a laptop similar to mine, 
says it.  So I'm assuming I need to tell it to somewhere.
Veronica
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RE: alt keys not working

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

When I press Alt-2 or any other combination, it says "something not found." 
Alt-2 says date not found. V

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 7:41 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: alt keys not working

Hey Veronica.

Does WE say, "Not in detailed view" when you press the Alt-!, Alt-2,
etcetera, ke combinations?

Lou N.

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Behalf Of Smith, Veronica via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 9:48 AM
To: Charles Short; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: alt keys not working

9.2 the latest. And I'm assuming I have the correct set files.  If not, how
can I tell? Please advise. V

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Charles Short via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 6:44 PM
To: 'Veronica Smith'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: alt keys not working

Ms. Smith, what version of WE are you using?  Do you have the proper set
files installed.  Are any of the settings in the WE control panel not
working?  The next step might be to contact tech support at AI Squared.
Charlie


Best Regards

Charlie Short

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On Behalf Of Veronica Smith via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 5:21 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: alt keys not working

So for some time I've been whining that I cannot open attachments and still
I cannot.  Well, today I saw the tip of the day and it talking about using
"alt1 or alt 2 or alt 3 and so on to retrieve certain kinds of info from an
email.  Well I just realize none of these work either.  Do you have any
suggestions of what might be going on?
Again I use an Lenovo with MS2010. If any of that info makes a difference.
Veronica


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RE: alt keys not working

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

9.2 the latest. And I'm assuming I have the correct set files.  If not, how can 
I tell? Please advise. V

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 6:44 PM
To: 'Veronica Smith'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: alt keys not working

Ms. Smith, what version of WE are you using?  Do you have the proper set
files installed.  Are any of the settings in the WE control panel not
working?  The next step might be to contact tech support at AI Squared.
Charlie


Best Regards

Charlie Short

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+clshort=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Veronica Smith via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 5:21 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: alt keys not working

So for some time I've been whining that I cannot open attachments and still
I cannot.  Well, today I saw the tip of the day and it talking about using
"alt1 or alt 2 or alt 3 and so on to retrieve certain kinds of info from an
email.  Well I just realize none of these work either.  Do you have any
suggestions of what might be going on?
Again I use an Lenovo with MS2010. If any of that info makes a difference.
Veronica


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set file question for Chris

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I know this sounds stupid, but I honestly don't know how to check what "set" 
files are loaded.  I am using  WE 9.2.
Please advise!

Veronica

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of chris via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 12:03 AM
To: amit aggarwal; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: window eyes 9.2 demo in windows 10

Well do you have Office 2010 or later including 365? If so, save your 
money and download the free Window-Eyes for Office here
www.windoweyesforoffice.com



On 17/10/2015 06:59, amit aggarwal via Talk wrote:
> hello all,
> I want to buy window eyes, but before buying I wanted to make sure
> that I'm really
> buying something that can full fill my computer needs.
> I downloaded window eyes 9.2 demo in my windows 10  computer.on the
> website, they said that it will work for 60 days.
> but when I installed window eyes, it is saying in less then 5 minutes
> window eyes will be completely shut down.
> I thought restarting pc would help. after restarting it worked fine but
> when it was about half hour it started saying in less then 5 minutes
> window eyes will be completely shut down.
> do anyone have any idea what is happening with me?
> can somebody please hint me in right direction?
> regards,
> amit
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RE: Accessible DVD player

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

This is software, right? Not an external item?
V

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Steve Clower via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 1:54 PM
To: Morne van der Merwe; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Accessible DVD player

Morne,

VLC Media Player from www.videolan.org should work well. If you have actual 
DVDs, my personal favorite is DVD Audio Extractor. Despite the name, it is a 
very capable, and more importantly, accessible, DVD player. Well worth the 
money.

Steve



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Morne van der Merwe via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 3:51 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Accessible DVD player

Hello listers,

 

Latest version of WE on a Windows 8.1 machine.

 

I have a collection of DVD's with old TV programs on them.  Is there any
accessible software which I can use to listen to them?

 

Regards

Morne 

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RE: Not hearing stars when I enter Passwords and Some Other Keys

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I cannot find verbosity either.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 7:30 PM
To: 'Nick Sarames'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Not hearing stars when I enter Passwords and Some Other Keys

Go to advanced options, go to verbosity, expand it and do whatever it is you
want to do.  If you don't want to hear star when entering the password
field, go to miscellaneous.
Charlie


Best Regards

Charlie Short

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On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 8:35 PM
To: Rod Hutton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Not hearing stars when I enter Passwords and Some Other Keys

A general question; I have not been able to find verbosity when I arrow down
after pressing control-backslash.  Devices (7 of 7)is as far as I can arrow.
What am I doing wrong?

On 10/1/2015 7:46 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
> Hi Evan,
>
> In the WE control panel, arrow down to Verbosity, expand this, arrow 
> down to Common, expand this, and, finally, arrow down to Miscellaneous.
> Then, press F6, and tab to the setting called "Speak the word star in 
> password edit boxes."
> Note that you must set the Scope to Global and the next control to 
> "Yes" for the setting to be in effect throughout Windows.
> Once you set things as you wish, press Control-S to save your settings.
> As for the other keys you were speaking about, the speaking of these 
> is found in the WE control panel under Keyboard, expand this, and 
> arrow down to Special keys.
> Once you find this, press F6 and tab through all the various settings, 
> since they're all there.
> Once again, you need to set the Scope as well as the state of the 
> relevant control, and when you're done, save your settings with Control-S.
>
> I hope this helps,
>
> Rod
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Evan Reese via Talk
> Sent: October 1, 2015 6:27 PM
> To: Gayle ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> 
> Subject: Not hearing stars when I enter Passwords and Some Other Keys
>
> Hey Guys,
> I'm using WE 8.4 on Windows 64-bit with IE11. Something's happened to 
> my WE
> 8.4 settings somehow. Now, when I enter passwords, I don't hear 
> anything; I used to hear star star and so on.
> Also, I no longer hear certain keys when they're pressed such as caps 
> lock and num lock. I used to hear them, and I'd like to hear them 
> again. Can someone tell me what I need to change to fix them so 
> they're announced again? And how to hear the star when I enter a 
> password? Are these related or separate issues?
> Thanks very much for any advice.
> Evan
>
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RE: Word 2007 Question

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I will try that.
V

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:19 PM
To: 'Veronica Smith'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Word 2007 Question

Hi Veronica,

When placing numbers at the left margin, if you don't follow them with a
period, but merely a space, numbering won't happen.

Hth,

Rod

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Veronica Smith via Talk
Sent: September 30, 2015 11:09 PM
To: 'Pastor Gil Pries' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: Word 2007 Question

Its not the word counter that gets me, but numbering the lines.  I want it
to stop.
V

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Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 10:08 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Word 2007 Question

Hi,
How do I turn off the word counter?  It keeps popping up when word starts
up.
Thanks,

Pastor Gil
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RE: Losing speech

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Mine is a Lenova Laptop

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 10:13 AM
To: Lynn White; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Mike
Subject: RE: Losing speech

What type of computers are being used, Dell, HP, etc?
Chris

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Lynn White via Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 10:55 AM
To: Mike ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Losing speech

I have no doubt that it is a Windows Explorer issue.  With Windows 10, it 
doesn't seem to happen as much.

On 10/1/2015 8:27 AM, Mike via Talk wrote:
> Hello Everyone
>
> recently, I had an RNIB tech volunteer at my home.  He kept commenting 
> that Windows Explorer was stopping.  This seemed to coincide with 
> speech loss.  He mentioned this four or five times in half an hour and 
> was extremely surprised to see it happening so frequently.
>
> I have also lost speech with Ie 11 and very recently, I have returned 
> to the computer to find that speech is no longer working even though I 
> haven't used the computer for a couple of hours. Sleep mode is turned 
> off along with any other settings which might cause the machine to be 
> unable to respond as soon as I touch the keyboard.
>
> Probably none of this will be of any help in identifying the problem 
> but speech loss seems to be getting more and more frequent.
>
> I am using Win7 64 home premium with WE 9.2.
>
> Mike.
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RE: the on going saga of losing speech

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Mine is Firefox and word.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:07 PM
To: dlh...@centurylink.net; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: the on going saga of losing speech

Hi Dave,

Does this happen with all browsers, that is, Firefox, IE, and Chrome, or
just IE?

Best regards,

Rod

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Of via Talk
Sent: September 30, 2015 4:47 PM
To: Kevin Huber ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: the on going saga of losing speech

As a person that is constantly having either Window Eyes 9.2 fail, or
something else going on, so far unknown, I have come to think my problem
is a Hardware issue.  

Although, I can not find any proof of my theory as many people on this
list have such a wide variety of computers and Operating systems.  

At first I thought it may be something within Win 7 64 bit edition,
where the conflict was caused.  Then I noticed others running Win 8, 8.1
and even Win 10, were also experiencing such speech drop outs.  

This morning, I had WE 9.2 go away three times within 45 minutes.  I
finally just shut down my system and walked away because I was so
frustrated.  

I am attempting to figure a way to buy another system.  And hopefully,
this will help eliminate WE 9.X from losing Speech.  

If it doesn't, I'll be using JAWS latest version in its Demo Mode, as I
am looking for Employment, which forces me to be On Line a Lot, every
day.  Something I can not do consistently when using WE 9.0, 9.1, and
now 9.2.There are still times when I need to fire up my old XP
system and use WE 8.4, and hope I.E. 8 will be allowed on some Employers
Web Site.  Sometimes it is, and more often it is not.  

Using JAWS Demo will give me at least 30 minutes before I need to
re-boot.  With the current edition of WE 9.2, I am constantly
anticipating Speech to go away.  

Not Fun!


-- 
Dave 

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RE: iTunes Question

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Good luck updating it, I tried and tried last weekend and it starts then 
reboots.  It just about made me crazy.  So I gave up.

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On Behalf Of Alan J Paganelli via Talk
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 12:08 PM
To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: iTunes Question

Hi All,

I'm running the latest version of Window Eyes on a windows 64 bitHP 64 bit 
laptop.  I haven't updated my iTunes version to the latest and thought I'd 
do so today.  The thing of it is, every time I open iTunes, Window Eyes 
crashes.  If I restart WE and open iTunes, it crashes again.  It didn't do 
this before.  Anybody have any ideas I can try to resoulve this issue? 

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RE: deletted items folder question.

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Why don't you just create another folder, perhaps called read later and then 
you will have them. I do this all the time.
Veronica

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On Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 6:52 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: deletted items folder question.

Good evening all,  

How can I save any messages  that I have  deleted from my inbox, to store in my 
deleted items folder too read at a later date?  It seems that whenever I go too 
the deleted items folder,  the messages  that I have put in there disappear 
from that folder.  Is there a setting within the options oamenu in  WLm where I 
can change a setting, so that this doesn’t happen?  I’m running windows   7 64 
bit on an HP laptop computer, with windoweyes 9 point one.

All help advice, and   suggestions are very much appreciated.  

Thanks in advance,   

Al 
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RE: 2 Questions Advanced and words

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

What is the difference between regular and advanced?
Veronica

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On Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 2:52 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: 2 Questions Advanced and words

Hey, Bob.

The show advanced options item is in the Window-Eyes help menu. With the WE
control panel open, press Alt-H, V and that will check the menu item.

As for your second question. In the Window-Eyes settings tree view in the
keyboard voice node, tab twice and that will put you on the voice combo
box. Admittedly, I haven't played with these settings much, but I don't
think there's a way to make WE speak only when a punctuation mark is typed.
The on with words function will say words after the space bar is
pressed--that much I remember.

hth,
Lou N.

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Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:03 PM
To: Talk
Subject: 2 Questions Advanced and words

1. How do I turn on advanced settings on Window-Eyes?

2. Where do I change it from saying each letter as I type, to having WE only
say a word after puncionation? 

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RE: how to post A coment to someones face book posting on your facebook page

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Posting to Facebook.
First of all, using the mobile site is blind person friendly.  The original 
site is just a nightmare.
When I want to Post, I first press the letter e to actually find the edit 
field, then I type in what I want to say, then I tab to Post. It is there and 
it does read it.
The thing I cannot find is the Tag friends.  Somehow a while ago, I got on a 
mailing list and every time they change something, they send me an email asking 
if a blind person can access it.
They have made changes in the last few months, but I have not received anything 
inquiring, so perhaps they think its okay.  If I find an email address, I will 
send them feedback.
Veronica

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On Behalf Of brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 5:26 AM
To: Casey; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: how to post A coment to someones face book posting on your 
facebook page

Hi,
No, I don't even think there is a button now! I think it's an edit field.in any 
case.when you find the edit field, type in what you Wanna type! And press 
enter.then it should post it.let me know how you go with this?

Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue

On 4 Apr 2015, at 1:40 pm, Casey via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

Hi okay I was wondering.
When you are going threw your Facebook page.
And one of your friends posts something and you hit the button to comment on 
what they pasted.
After you write your comment then how to you find the button to post that 
comment?
I can find the comment button but then after I write my comment I can find the 
place to click to post my comment to that posting.
So any and all help is welcome.


-- 
Casey
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No attachments issue

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Hello
Here is the problem I am having.
I know there is an attachment, several have told me it really does exist, 
however my computer keeps saying, no attachment found.
The technology specialist at the NM commission for the blind, Curtis chong 
suggested two different approaches for me to retrieve it.

1.   He sugested that after I open the email, I hit Alt F, then e then I.  
what ever this is suppose to do, it just takes me back to the menu.

2.   2. He suggested that I open the message, press Alt, arrow down to 
Save attachments hit enter.
Needless to say, that won't work either.
Infact, if the message is open, it just makes a metallic sound. Dink.

I am so frustrated. Any suggestions for me.

veronica
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RE: ITunes Where are we?

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I definitely missed it, can we?

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On Behalf Of Bill Scherer via Talk
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 3:27 PM
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Subject: ITunes Where are we?

Yeah I crawl under a rock from time to time, so I probably missed the news.
So can we download the latest version of ITunes and use it with The newest
version of WE?

Thanks.

Bill

 

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RE: WE friendly music streaming services.

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I love this one, it is indeed a friendly app. 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Rusty Bourgoin via Talk
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 10:02 AM
To: 'Reeva Webb'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: WE friendly music streaming services.

Hi,  Try apple radio found in iTunes.  HTH!

Rusty


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Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 5:55 AM
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Subject: WE friendly music streaming services.

Hi, i was wondering if any music/radio streaming services worked
semi-decently with WE. I tried spotify at the end of last year and it didn't
work also tried the iheartradio windows 8 app and had no success there
either.

Thanks
Reeva
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RE: Checking Progress of Downloads

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

For some reason I thought that Alt, insert B did just that?  Am I confused 
about this hot key?
v

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On Behalf Of John Glass via Talk
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 9:34 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com; rod_hut...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Checking Progress of Downloads

Hi Rod,

Thanks, this does work, but it would be more convenient if a specific hotkey 
would provide just the download progress.

As I said before, I thought control insert b should do this, but at least on my 
computer, it doesn't.

John



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To: his'John Glass' johnglas...@gmail.com,'worldindow-_eyes Discussion 
List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Date: Sunday, March 15, 2015 7:46 pm
Subject: RE: Checking Progress of Downloads



 Hi,
 
 I normally just use Control-Shift-W to read the top part of the window with
 the download progress.
 
 Hth,
 
 Rod
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Talk
 [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
 Of John Glass via Talk
 Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 10:36 PM
 To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
 Subject: Checking Progress of Downloads
 
 Hi,
 
 I am running Windoweyes 9.1 on a Windows 7 machine with internet explorer.
 
 While downloading files, I press control insert b and am told: no progress
 or scroll bars found.
 
 Is this the wrong hotkey for checking download status?
 
 Thanks, John
 
 
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RE: Right Arrow Problem in WE 9.1

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Mine only does that if there is a capital letter at the beginning of the line.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Dave Basden via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 3:19 PM
To: cov...@ccs.covici.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Right Arrow Problem in WE 9.1

My right arrow is set to read prior character after.  When I move to 
the beginning of a line and press right arrow, I get a beep.  It 
takes a second press to actually move and read the first character on 
the line.  This did not happen in WE 9.0 or any earlier version.

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RE: trying to decide if I should migrate to window-eyes 9 because I still have windows xp

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Honestly, if I had been smart, I would of stayed with XP and WE 8.4.  that, in 
my opinion, was the best set up and I hardly had a problem.  Now, I have WE 9.0 
and Office 2010 and a new computer and am so sorry I changed.
Veronica

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On Behalf Of Ted Larson via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:06 PM
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Subject: trying to decide if I should migrate to window-eyes 9 because I still 
have windows xp

Dear List, especially XP users:
Until I can get a newer computer, I am still using Windows XP.  I realize it 
has not been tested for Window-eyes nine.  Those who are still using windows 
XP, have you stayed with window-eyes 8.4 or have you taken a chance with 
version nine.  Your answers will help me decide whether to wait or upgrade to 
the newest window-eyes.  Thanks for your experiences regarding this.  Regards:  
Ted Larson
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